From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 20:30:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA7C16A469; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (penna-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2963713C4DD; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB3KVTnL061171; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:31:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Rui Paulo In-Reply-To: <475048BC.7070904@FreeBSD.org> References: <20071129114620.16752mjgtqsqtxyc@intranet.encontacto.net> <475048BC.7070904@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-GEGXlUlVoRwCRaGxcMC1" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:30:25 -0500 Message-Id: <1196713825.87269.52.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: FreeBSD Current , eculp , freebsd-mobile Subject: Re: Run Current on a MacBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:30:30 -0000 --=-GEGXlUlVoRwCRaGxcMC1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 17:30 +0000, Rui Paulo wrote: > eculp wrote: > > I am a half step away from buying a MacBook based on the following=20 > > assumptions: > >=20 > > 1. I should run current and it has the SMP problem fixed. >=20 > The fix was not yet committed. >=20 > > 2. It can be dual booted between OSX and FreeBSD? > > a. The handbook only mentions that it can be run as a guest OS. >=20 > The handbook doesn't mention anything about running FreeBSD on a=20 > MacBook. You probably want to read http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook >=20 > > b. Is there a short list to run both OS's I've done this with > > windows many times over the years but I have on idea where to > > start with Mac. Example: Clean the disk and start with FBSD > > or somehow compress the MacOSX file system and use the rest > > for BSD, etc. etc. >=20 > * Partition your drive witht Bootcamp > * Install rEFIt. http://refit.sf.net/ > * Boot FreeBSD install CD and install it to the desired partition. Don't=20 > install an MBR boot manager. > * Sync your MBR with the GPT by using the refit tool (available in the=20 > refit boot menu). I've tried this procedure twice now, and the results are the same: even after selecting "None" for the boot manager, by GPT gets overridden with an MBR. Almost everything works fine after that. rEFIt allows me to boot into MacOS X or FreeBSD, but the gptsync tool does not work, and I couldn't upgrade to Leopard until I re-partitioned my drive (which I did, and ended up right back with an MBR after installing FreeBSD). If there's some trick to this I'm missing, I'd love to know before "Puma" comes out. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-GEGXlUlVoRwCRaGxcMC1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHVGdgb2iPiv4Uz4cRAnrqAJ41+lXKozf7oz8J2r2mr6HgncEVngCfVORh zXrWFfAl/9dpeLlqOHLqrSU= =EREg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-GEGXlUlVoRwCRaGxcMC1-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 00:33:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB4716A419 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 00:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF3513C4DB for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 00:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so227011mue for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:33:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=f5O6dYgfPv0l241CwsDCRjjOUQhAusM27RjMnDTx8fk=; b=vwW2Tbbd9otcl+7ZMyDbvnwR3dDhW1S6XSCnoXRMPXPAG7fbqEedI7Sh6CYH0nO8ql3x/QpJXAwGjrk2FglTY4zVX6qJkE6PTd2C8pDZ58XU7HpmD7UmZB5ewSCUDc9mjEZlCvhV0E3Beprq93kAGQMdEf/hvh0Em3VDd1tZzKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=Oi0LZGhCzDscjcYrijqP3PXr3ZKFcQ9sP32KDKoeDEoOSSruHW85RW0VYRRlwTEMxsi+9EC9YPoZqW9/omHgszpEKJDX+pjOboqhwHWVeeXOoX6GBl5HtYL0HC5NgtFR3gxv+0yistHTb+GX6usbHTDB7fqOSZdM9tH1x+uA9NA= Received: by 10.82.167.5 with SMTP id p5mr42021bue.1196728395603; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from epsilon.mshome.net ( [62.169.115.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm3624712nfu.2007.12.03.16.33.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:33:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4754A046.7010909@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:33:10 +0000 From: Rui Paulo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Marcus Clarke References: <20071129114620.16752mjgtqsqtxyc@intranet.encontacto.net> <475048BC.7070904@FreeBSD.org> <1196713825.87269.52.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <1196713825.87269.52.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Rui Paulo Cc: FreeBSD Current , eculp , freebsd-mobile Subject: Re: Run Current on a MacBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:33:19 -0000 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 17:30 +0000, Rui Paulo wrote: >> eculp wrote: >>> I am a half step away from buying a MacBook based on the following >>> assumptions: >>> >>> 1. I should run current and it has the SMP problem fixed. >> The fix was not yet committed. >> >>> 2. It can be dual booted between OSX and FreeBSD? >>> a. The handbook only mentions that it can be run as a guest OS. >> The handbook doesn't mention anything about running FreeBSD on a >> MacBook. You probably want to read http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook >> >>> b. Is there a short list to run both OS's I've done this with >>> windows many times over the years but I have on idea where to >>> start with Mac. Example: Clean the disk and start with FBSD >>> or somehow compress the MacOSX file system and use the rest >>> for BSD, etc. etc. >> * Partition your drive witht Bootcamp >> * Install rEFIt. http://refit.sf.net/ >> * Boot FreeBSD install CD and install it to the desired partition. Don't >> install an MBR boot manager. >> * Sync your MBR with the GPT by using the refit tool (available in the >> refit boot menu). > > I've tried this procedure twice now, and the results are the same: even > after selecting "None" for the boot manager, by GPT gets overridden with > an MBR. Almost everything works fine after that. rEFIt allows me to > boot into MacOS X or FreeBSD, but the gptsync tool does not work, and I > couldn't upgrade to Leopard until I re-partitioned my drive (which I > did, and ended up right back with an MBR after installing FreeBSD). > > If there's some trick to this I'm missing, I'd love to know before > "Puma" comes out. Well, I think that if you restore your MBR to a PMBR* (a GPT MBR) you lose the ability to boot FreeBSD beecause rEFIt seems to expect a FreeBSD MBR, IIRC. But on the other hand, you probably need a PMBR (i.e. have your disk with operating systems that can boot from GPT) to upgrade Mac OS X. Yes, I know, it's horrible. :-( * Protective MBR -- Rui Paulo From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 08:32:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DA916A420; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schwabe@uni-paderborn.de) Received: from mail.blinkt.de (mail.blinkt.de [88.198.169.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8AC13C45A; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schwabe@uni-paderborn.de) Received: from dslb-084-061-129-015.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.61.129.15] helo=styx.local) by mail.blinkt.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IzSiY-000NHs-Sv; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:01:23 +0100 Message-ID: <47550951.2030100@uni-paderborn.de> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:01:21 +0100 From: Arne Schwabe User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; de; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rui Paulo References: <20071129114620.16752mjgtqsqtxyc@intranet.encontacto.net> <475048BC.7070904@FreeBSD.org> <1196713825.87269.52.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <4754A046.7010909@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4754A046.7010909@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Current , eculp , freebsd-mobile Subject: Re: Run Current on a MacBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:32:24 -0000 Rui Paulo schrieb: > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 17:30 +0000, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> eculp wrote: >>>> I am a half step away from buying a MacBook based on the following >>>> assumptions: >>>> >>>> 1. I should run current and it has the SMP problem fixed. >>> The fix was not yet committed. >>> >>>> 2. It can be dual booted between OSX and FreeBSD? >>>> a. The handbook only mentions that it can be run as a guest OS. >>> The handbook doesn't mention anything about running FreeBSD on a >>> MacBook. You probably want to read http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook >>> >>>> b. Is there a short list to run both OS's I've done this with >>>> windows many times over the years but I have on idea where to >>>> start with Mac. Example: Clean the disk and start with FBSD >>>> or somehow compress the MacOSX file system and use the rest >>>> for BSD, etc. etc. >>> * Partition your drive witht Bootcamp >>> * Install rEFIt. http://refit.sf.net/ >>> * Boot FreeBSD install CD and install it to the desired partition. >>> Don't install an MBR boot manager. >>> * Sync your MBR with the GPT by using the refit tool (available in >>> the refit boot menu). >> >> I've tried this procedure twice now, and the results are the same: even >> after selecting "None" for the boot manager, by GPT gets overridden with >> an MBR. Almost everything works fine after that. rEFIt allows me to >> boot into MacOS X or FreeBSD, but the gptsync tool does not work, and I >> couldn't upgrade to Leopard until I re-partitioned my drive (which I >> did, and ended up right back with an MBR after installing FreeBSD). >> >> If there's some trick to this I'm missing, I'd love to know before >> "Puma" comes out. > Puma is 10.1 ;) > Well, I think that if you restore your MBR to a PMBR* (a GPT MBR) you > lose the ability to boot FreeBSD beecause rEFIt seems to expect a > FreeBSD MBR, IIRC. But on the other hand, you probably need a PMBR > (i.e. have your disk with operating systems that can boot from GPT) to > upgrade Mac OS X. > > Yes, I know, it's horrible. :-( > I my case creating the "FreeBSD" parition with the disk utility and simply use that parition for FreeBSD worked fine for me. Arne From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 15:47:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8437F16A418; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (penna-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339F813C442; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB4FmXju070015; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:48:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Arne Schwabe In-Reply-To: <47550951.2030100@uni-paderborn.de> References: <20071129114620.16752mjgtqsqtxyc@intranet.encontacto.net> <475048BC.7070904@FreeBSD.org> <1196713825.87269.52.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <4754A046.7010909@FreeBSD.org> <47550951.2030100@uni-paderborn.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-iz5Ih/T2JfQ4UKGE1xLS" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:47:21 -0500 Message-Id: <1196783241.1267.7.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: FreeBSD Current , Rui Paulo , eculp , freebsd-mobile Subject: Re: Run Current on a MacBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:47:29 -0000 --=-iz5Ih/T2JfQ4UKGE1xLS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 09:01 +0100, Arne Schwabe wrote: > Rui Paulo schrieb: > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 17:30 +0000, Rui Paulo wrote: > >>> eculp wrote: > >>>> I am a half step away from buying a MacBook based on the following > >>>> assumptions: > >>>> > >>>> 1. I should run current and it has the SMP problem fixed. > >>> The fix was not yet committed. > >>> > >>>> 2. It can be dual booted between OSX and FreeBSD? > >>>> a. The handbook only mentions that it can be run as a guest OS. > >>> The handbook doesn't mention anything about running FreeBSD on a > >>> MacBook. You probably want to read http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbo= ok > >>> > >>>> b. Is there a short list to run both OS's I've done this with > >>>> windows many times over the years but I have on idea where t= o > >>>> start with Mac. Example: Clean the disk and start with FBSD > >>>> or somehow compress the MacOSX file system and use the rest > >>>> for BSD, etc. etc. > >>> * Partition your drive witht Bootcamp > >>> * Install rEFIt. http://refit.sf.net/ > >>> * Boot FreeBSD install CD and install it to the desired partition. > >>> Don't install an MBR boot manager. > >>> * Sync your MBR with the GPT by using the refit tool (available in > >>> the refit boot menu). > >> > >> I've tried this procedure twice now, and the results are the same: eve= n > >> after selecting "None" for the boot manager, by GPT gets overridden wi= th > >> an MBR. Almost everything works fine after that. rEFIt allows me to > >> boot into MacOS X or FreeBSD, but the gptsync tool does not work, and = I > >> couldn't upgrade to Leopard until I re-partitioned my drive (which I > >> did, and ended up right back with an MBR after installing FreeBSD). > >> > >> If there's some trick to this I'm missing, I'd love to know before > >> "Puma" comes out. > > > Puma is 10.1 ;) I knew I should have thought harder about cat names. Maybe Lynx? > > Well, I think that if you restore your MBR to a PMBR* (a GPT MBR) you > > lose the ability to boot FreeBSD beecause rEFIt seems to expect a > > FreeBSD MBR, IIRC. But on the other hand, you probably need a PMBR > > (i.e. have your disk with operating systems that can boot from GPT) to > > upgrade Mac OS X. > > > > Yes, I know, it's horrible. :-( > > > I my case creating the "FreeBSD" parition with the disk utility and > simply use that parition for FreeBSD worked fine for me. I should have tried that. Thanks for the tip. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-iz5Ih/T2JfQ4UKGE1xLS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHVXaIb2iPiv4Uz4cRAm1KAJ9+0leUAbAZvvOZ4dUhN66rs82/BQCgk/Le fO7zKQp98FeIH4/TX/rmMkI= =VrgI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-iz5Ih/T2JfQ4UKGE1xLS-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 16:30:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F6216A475 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0FE13C4EA for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A71AB.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.113.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB4GEQ8x019268 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:14:27 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB4GEii0029771 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:14:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost.js.berklix.net [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB4GEiOw073415 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:14:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200712041614.lB4GEiOw073415@fire.js.berklix.net> To: mobile@freebsd.org From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen. User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com/~jhs/cv/ Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:14:44 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Cc: Subject: 7.0BETA3 + Dell Latitude XPi : Disk problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:30:50 -0000 freebsd-mobile@, ( bcc'd re@freebsd.org for info ) Suggestions please to help escape nightmare (below) of 7.0BETA3 installer repeatedly failing on a Dell Latitude XPi, (which runs 4.11 no problem). It seems the 5,6,7 FreeBSD Installer wont work on this laptop. All I can think of now for this laptop is: Reinstall 4.11 Abandon FreeBSD installer for this laptop Hand allocate an Fdisk S2 Hand partition disklabel ad0s2 Hand install boot sectors Hand newfs ad0s2a & f (but UFS2 or 1 ?) Hand cross install a complete 7.0BETA3 operational tree Hand edit /boot/loader.conf Test. & tune boot & loader.conf till disk & pcmcia ep0 work. Report back to re@ more conservative values (by which time they may well have shipped release). Other ideas ? Note I have installed 7.0BETA3 on other hosts. Detail with 7.0BETA3 below (previous history with 6.2 here: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/#dell ) =========================== After continuously failing to persuade 7 installer to do any of - install to hard disk OK, - recognise & use pcmcia ep0 OR - recognise & use pcmcia cdrom card & avoid deathly timeouts (& each failure each time needing 7 floppy changes. ) So I gave up on pcmcia ep0 & pcmcia cdrom to install from, and Deleted all fdsik partions Installed 4.11 fresh on first 1.5G partition, copied 4.11 CD to /usr/cd Booted 7 floppies (yet Again) set hw.ata.ata_dma=0 boot ( About 5 mins wait after it says toot@logan ... sys/GENERIC before "real memory" ) `A' utomatic disklabel fails, (thinks 2.5G insufficient for /usr), Manually 300G root leave 90M swap found from 4.11 Rest of space for /usr Mount old partions as /4 /4/var /4/tmp /4/usr Install from filesystem /4/usr/cd Finished with no errors. Reboot F2 refused, so push F1 to boot 4.11 to look: # disklabel ad0s2 # cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV ad0s2a fsck ad0s2a BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS ? [yn] y # fsck -b 32 /dev/ad0s2a Alternate super block location: 32 ** /dev/ad0s2a BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG # uname -a FreeBSD norb.js.berklix.net 4.11-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 21 17:21:22 GMT 2005 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 21 17:21:22 GMT 2005 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (133.64-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 58720256 (57344K bytes) config> di bt0 config> di aic0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q avail memory = 51699712 (50488K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc055c000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc055c09c. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 6.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 7.0 irq 15 atapci0: port 0xfe00-0xfe0f irq 14 at device 8.0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 orm0: