From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 00:04:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF516A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E6D13C49D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IeJa2-0005hf-VN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0000 Received: from c-71-230-67-187.hsd1.pa.comcast.net ([71.230.67.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0000 Received: from apeiron+usenet by c-71-230-67-187.hsd1.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <972994690710061329t10b4eb49j8c95a539eec2bbe9@mail.gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-71-230-67-187.hsd1.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:04:45 -0000 On 2007-10-06, James Jeffery top-posted. [ please don't do that, it makes it very difficult to format responses correctly and makes it just about as hard to read and understand them ] > Hi all, thanks for the fast replys, much appreciated. > > Manolis: Yep, its the book by Jesse, i never believe them when they say > "in 24 hours", its a snag for them to sell the book, they just split it up > into 24 sections to make it look like its possible. I'd personally consider getting a better book. Generally, as has been said, the "learn X in Y units_of_time" books are titled that way for marketability. You can't *possibly* learn C++ in 10 minutes, 24 hours, 21 days, or even a year. See also http://norvig.com/21-days.html and http://accu.org/index.php/book_reviews for book reviews. > Roland: Ive been working with PHP over the past 2 years, i understand > the basics such as data types, functions, arrays, variables, objects ect, > but i want to challenge myself and learn something that will benifit me > when looking for work after uni, i've got another 4 years of learning before > i complete my software engineering degree. PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating system that happens to be able to use extensions that can provide C style linkage. That said, I laude you for your desire to learn a real programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with absolutely top-notch documentation, and generally speaking, its third-party extensions have similar documentation quality. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- Yaakov, And it seems to me that the only people going on about "freedom" these days are RMS and Bush. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 00:08:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCFC16A469 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520AA13C4B5 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1789243pyb for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NlEWB2ETkg90pqgcu3+iOSzW++phFqB5GK7YLwTM6kk=; b=K0613JwXgFXez0YKoDGFp/x/CEP7rVTzO6ABcExOr2wjIMc+ghiUfEpD9pf8dyqb3vbUhA33wu7KyzpineCyGsgnwuGUvK8DRSJU8Wll1fz2s0DQgFzj+oTXDXSae0v5/sdMJmXjihQPigv6S7lwvvmbmdCmhIn6EbrKg+MGvfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U20F04jK4QsaXU1ExLjpg82fWF9CjoaQZ3E7dGQMm/yCvc8RarBijtxbT5xxfbczuSlybgwWiVbYU9vUEOqmuNdKOUNvEZGrg67Gj2xqFcd+hAwAOXf4bohPbrA9LeN+h2GfU0bk9ji7XvdLSA+4MQm6XXv9TABvZIuW3IBEhaM= Received: by 10.64.181.12 with SMTP id d12mr21163698qbf.1191715679961; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.105.2 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:07:59 +0000 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "Christopher Nehren" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <972994690710061329t10b4eb49j8c95a539eec2bbe9@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:08:02 -0000 > PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating > system that happens to be able to use extensions that can provide C > style linkage. That said, I laude you for your desire to learn a real > programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start > with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with > absolutely top-notch documentation, and generally speaking, its > third-party extensions have similar documentation quality. Ruby is *VERY* easy to learn and there are many online and offline books for teaching it (or depending on your personal ideals on bittorrent)... it has one advantage over perl it much less syntactically ugly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 01:19:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BC216A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62CE13C44B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1807633pyb for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:19:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:content-transfer-encoding:date:cc; bh=o9JFJa1oTCr6sIBCv8IbQWfWE/ijV/n9Kju/UB21Uz0=; b=KWoGvuRTjla4wsBVYFIGomSoOof1LKOwSIvxXNPV0WOPcINrVutQYUycSypJBNQd4IC+QNF0IyEqUQ0dWLxu7l0EXE4jf5CtC85IS3q5BzRli1nCu0p0H1Z6CQpxu/SqkWWHqOBIHCLphRL+4sO62vUqelPWvKPqY4TEcNt5WHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:content-transfer-encoding:date:cc; b=PXpcac8Gi+GBM/M/43T6dSJZezfWRHVmHXjt8HX36CNyBRF1GkHYy+6F5HSFB9dSIw932Z4vqmZ0rsyoP1iQEzQQXMsvXDZc+h1v9W7dvKiLIAhgA67eq+vExAR59XHsJDsCuByNhxEDaUozRVY0LTOUmqt51KKA882nwoIj9ZM= Received: by 10.64.91.15 with SMTP id o15mr3891062qbb.1191719990266; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.25.255.158? ( [32.168.213.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e13sm3137066qbe.2007.10.06.18.19.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:19:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <00a201c8085b$f23b0720$0800020a@mickey> Message-Id: <69059345-BE20-468A-9097-AB14D472E8F7@gmail.com> From: Speedtoys To: Don O'Neil In-Reply-To: <00a201c8085b$f23b0720$0800020a@mickey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (3A109a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 3A109a) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:19:32 -0700 Cc: "" Subject: Re: Building a SAN using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:19:52 -0000 Its not the array that costs a lot, its the hard part that does. Not many reliable free SAN (block) solutions put there. NAS (file) based sharing if very free and very reliable. Got brakes? ====== 25hrs or one season with one pad set is possible. Save money and pit time, compromise nothing. Ask how. TXT or Tone: 8414546712@txt.att.net http://www.speedtoys.com On Oct 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, "Don O'Neil" wrote: > Anyone have any resources for building a FreeBSD based SAN device? > IE, how > can I create an extendable file system using networked drives in > muliple > boxes without paying a billion dollars for someones expensive drive > arrays. > > TIA! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 01:33:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052DD16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88F113C47E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 137980920-1860479 for multiple; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <47083754.3020008@chrononomicon.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:33:08 -0400 From: Bart Silverstrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:33:18 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Recently, a storm happened and the power surge blew me > off-line. Time to get serious about buying a UPS that will > handle my four main servers for at-most, a 10-second power > outage. After that, shut down my computers. It took me 90 > minutes of up and down and crawling around last time. That's > the *why*. Is there a best type to save me from this? APC makes GREAT UPS's and have good support. I once blew out an APC by miswiring a switch on a computer (don't ask). I called tech support, they agreed that what I told them had happened shouldn't have happened, and shipped me a new UPS for free, without any hassle. From that point on, I swore I'd go APC first. > Do any of > these power supplies come with scripts to shutdown a Unix {or > Linux} computer? Not that I know of...there's daemons you can install for that purpose, though. >Is there a UPS that is designed for heavy use > and a very short (5- to 10-second) uptime? Generally you need to add up your power requirements and match the load to the UPS's power rating. >I'll need one that can > interface thru the COM ports or the UBS port, if that is how > these devices work. Today it's common to have a USB interface. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 01:47:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16CF16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5932A13C457 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l971joSj001173; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:45:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l971jooM001172; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:45:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:45:50 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: RW Message-ID: <20071007014550.GA1137@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <2F42244C-6F3F-48B3-AC05-FF068A791324@optusnet.com.au> <20071005204531.40afed9a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <1960C310-B558-484E-927A-4AAC273621D6@optusnet.com.au> <20071005162851.X8934@bravo.pjkh.com> <20071006003222.21205484@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20071006000946.GA96498@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20071006015528.332b66e5@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071006015528.332b66e5@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BASH as root shell (static linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:47:29 -0000 On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 01:55:28AM +0100, RW wrote: > On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:09:46 -0400 > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:32:22AM +0100, RW wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT) > > > Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > > > > > > On 06/10/2007, at 5:45 AM, RW wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 04:54:26 +1000 > > > > >> Jerahmy Pocott wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hello, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I'm wanting to use BASH as my root shell, so I compiled a > > > > >>> statically linked > > > > >> > > > > >> I would suggest using bash as your toor shell instead. toor > > > > >> exist precisely for this purpose. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I'v done that in the past, but I really dislike csh, I > > > > > don't want to use > > > > > it EVER =p > > > > > > I don't understand, why would you see csh if you login as toor > > > > It has no shell in the /etc/passwd entry by default. > > Maybe it then defaults to csh (which is really tcsh) if nothing > > else is given. > > It defaults to sh > > > Anyway, I prefer tcsh, but if the OP just has to have it bash, > > it is easy to do. > > I actually value my ignorance of tcsh, it prevents me doing anything > ambitious if I forget where I am. Explicitly selecting another shell is > like a safety-catch. And tsch is fairly friendly without knowing much > about it. > > > All the OP has to do is install bash from /usr/ports/shells/bash and > > then edit /etc/passwd to change the last field for toor - after the > > last colon - to point to where it installs bash (/usr/local/bin/bash > > maybe) and then it should all be fine. Actually, I forgot to mention that you also have to then put bash in /etc/shells. ////jerry > > Yes , that's what it's for. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 01:50:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7CB16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D4313C48E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l971nBF7001195; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:49:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l971nBVr001194; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:49:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:49:11 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: icantthinkofone Message-ID: <20071007014911.GB1137@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1191546543.61533.202.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <470719CF.7030502@charter.net> <4707205D.6090108@pacific.net.sg> <47079D01.7000502@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47079D01.7000502@charter.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: good replacement for open office X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:50:50 -0000 On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 09:34:41AM -0500, icantthinkofone wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > >Hi, > > > >do you really want the world to know what you are writing? > > > >icantthinkofone wrote: > >>Frank Jahnke wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>Why not use Google Docs? > > > >And ask NSA in case you need a backup? > > > >Erich > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Some guy from ComputerWorld was on NPR (National Public Radio) yesterday > and claimed security is fine on all online services like this. > Mentioned Google specifically. Depends on what you mean by security. They are reasonably OK if you mean sending in your payment for something, though not unbreakable. But, for documents that live there for a while, not only are they all very penetrable, but susceptable to being coerced by governments to reveal what we would normally think would be secret and private. Google has also provided information to the Chinese government about users and so have several other companies. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 02:16:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B3616A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 02:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D841613C455 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 02:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l972FxFA068104; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l972Fxpi068103; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:15:58 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20071007021558.GB67456@thought.org> References: <009c01c80810$169e4830$6501a8c0@GRANT> <4707A770.9060804@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4707A770.9060804@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Grant Peel , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Server Reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:16:00 -0000 On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:19:12AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Grant Peel wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >This is the first time in 10 years I have seen this. > > > >I have a Dell PE750 (vintage 2004), running FreeBSD 6.2 that had been > >up and running for about 30 days without any issues. > > > >The server somehow rebooted last night, apparently, all by itself. > > > >The last log file line I can find waqs about 12:30 AM. The dmesg shows > >it restarted about 1:12 AM. dmesg shows some file errors that were > >fixed upon reboot, other that that, everything is back up and running > >normally. > > > >I was wondering if anyone has seen anything similar and if a cause was > >found. > > > >Here is what I know: > > > >-all servers (there are 5 more) are plugged into the same power bar > >and none of the others were affected > >-none of the standard logs show any intrusion or root log in attempt, > >-dmesg and console log show nothing of note, > >-the DRAC logs and ESM logs show nothing, > >-the sensors (temp,voltage,etc) logs currently show no issues, all > >well withing normal parms. > >-my MRTG logs show no abnormal CPU usage or network activity. > > > > > >Any help would be appreciated, > > > >-Grant > > Check the capacitors on the motherboard (in particular near the > memory and processor); they may be going bad (esp with that vintage. > 2004 Dell was a bad year =P..). > You'll be looking for swelled capacitors and possibly some orange > dialectric being emitted. > -Garrett Strange. In just the past few, 2 or 3 or even 4 weeks my Dell-8200 has spontaneouslyrebooted too. I do have a number of things in /var/log/messages, but nothing that I can seee that would cause this problem. Before the video-card started flaking out, this puppy ran for weeks/months happily. AFAIW, X (or a heavily-loaded system) shouldn't have aynything to do with this problem, [yes/no??]. Any clues, Garrett? Ah, wait: dmesg.yesterday says rl0: link state changed to UP pid 729 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 4475 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 60174 (firefox-bin), uid 1000: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 47564 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 47570 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 79051 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 79057 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 3625 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 3631 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 74013 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) This file is timestamped 03 Oct 07 at 03:17 Anybody know why firefox would core dump? I have no clue waht "conftest" is... . Grant, how oten has your system failed? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 03:12:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DF616A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 03:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B13D913C480 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 03:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 8858 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 03:12:09 -0000 Received: from bb121-7-21-50.singnet.com.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@121.7.21.50) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 7 Oct 2007 03:12:09 -0000 Message-ID: <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:12:00 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:12:12 -0000 Hi, there are basically two types of UPS' around: online and stand-by or fly-by. The online version is much more expensive but also much better in critical conditions. Gary Kline wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Recently, a storm happened and the power surge blew me > off-line. Time to get serious about buying a UPS that will > handle my four main servers for at-most, a 10-second power You have the choice between four individual boxes or one big box. Cases like this let the online version shine. Stand-by versions fail pretty often especially if you have a neighbour around running big engines powered directly from the power lines. Even big air-cons can cause the problems. > Linux} computer? Is there a UPS that is designed for heavy use > and a very short (5- to 10-second) uptime? I'll need one that can I do not think that it is a good advice to go for 10 second uptime. Take a rating fitting your machines (400W power rating for the machine, 600VA for the UPS) with at least 10 minutes uptime. APC supplies you with both types of UPS. All APC I have seen failing were of the fly-by type, all other were the online version. I think, it will be the same for any other brand. But do not drop dead when you see the price difference. This will be money well spend. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 03:22:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B8A16A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 03:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AE713C459 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 03:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l973Maj9097369; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:22:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Tim Kellers" , Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:23:28 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46FEB3C6.8070009@wallnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: HP Server compatability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:22:43 -0000 freebsd amd64 runs fine on this Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tim Kellers > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:21 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Tim Kellers > Subject: HP Server compatability > > > I thought e would be purchasing a Dell 2950 to use as part of our > FreeBSD 6.2 server farm, (and thanks to everyone for their informed > replies), but due to other circumstances, our client wants to purchase a > HP ProLiant ML350 G5 SAS LFF - Rack Server. > > The only experience I have with HP is their printers and I know nothing > about their server compatability with FreeBSD. Does anyone know if this > unit is compatible with FreeBSD 6.2 or has anyone actually installed it > on one? Any pointer to pitfalls and/or workarounds would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 04:10:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591916A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 04:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4643113C458 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 04:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD5F50846 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:10:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SdfMFN0r02Gx for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 33E145082E; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20071007041004.33E145082E@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-09-16 - 2007-10-06 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:10:15 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 06:01:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7683B16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C68213C45B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1871587pyb for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:01:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; bh=HqteA1RYtauDBtcuTR+W4R+bIJ3P1iZagOrXV4O1Dtw=; b=F5sy4+CAoifLL+qKDUzn/5CgtlirBrAiWkvgARwSHa6MYvi9RRoh/BYhyfgzCPfqP61CBOB9oz2ltoVH+CVPog6MBfS5rp73cEj2bnMdHaGiID+RPTzlg7gtmwCbCpXMsSK8X4WhndNbMfbIsR/MdFv99lJY53kdkR1SQA6KLYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=UPTZ2rX0fBmMMuaNINh453Um7AfWrbevdhWD/PYq4ZJV+FqB0F6uIaKUMmYORGEvAi2gvuZp8IDGA/R9KJlN5CvLaZgrhO5n7YtwDs4hRFZlOwUNLpCTezx9VlsCU0mV2K+4pP40nJobY6eqZPa7emmqCGCd4XHVGSkMYhITE+g= Received: by 10.65.214.2 with SMTP id r2mr21972620qbq.1191736893084; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.210.17 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:01:33 -0500 From: Novembre To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:01:35 -0000 Hi, The ongoing problem with mounting my NTFS partition at boot time still remains. I have upgraded ntfs-3g to the latest version from ports: ---------- [user@pasargadae ~]$ pkg_info | grep fuse fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1 Kernel module for fuse fusefs-libs-2.7.0_1 FUSE allows filesystem implementation in userspace fusefs-ntfs-1.913 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images [user@pasargadae ~]$ pkg_info | grep libublio libublio-20070103 User space caching library ---------- According to the fusefs-ntfs Makefile revision 1.19 (the current one which I have installed is revision 1.20), a symlink to /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g is placed in /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g to allow using with 'mount -t ntfs-3g' and in /etc/fstab, after mounting /usr. So my current /etc/fstab looks like the following: ---------- [user@pasargadae ~]$ cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s2d /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g rw 0 0 ---------- However, when I boot the system, I get the following errors: ---------- [user@pasargadae ~]$ dmesg -a ... swapon: adding /dev/ad0s2b as swap device Starting file system checks: /dev/ad0s2a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s2a: clean, 2720732 free (22356 frags, 337297 blocks, 0.6%fragmentation) /dev/ad0s2d: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s2d: clean, 14076698 free (314 frags, 1759548 blocks, 0.0%fragmentation) Mounting local file systems: fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory ... Starting fusefs. fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 ... Mounting late file systems: fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory ---------- The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet loaded. However, I don't understand the second error from "Mounting late file systems" though. Does it show that the symlink is not doing its job? This is from /var/log/messages which shows that ntfs-3g has been run: ---------- Oct 6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913 Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write, label "", NTFS 3.0) Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null) Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options: noatime,silent,allow_other,fsname=/dev/ad0s1 ---------- which can be confirmed by noting that /dev/fuse0 has been created in /dev/ and that 'ps -ax' shows ---------- 811 ?? Is 0:00.00 mount_ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows (ntfs-3g) ---------- Despite all this, my NTFS partition is not mounted. Does anybody know of a solution for this? Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 06:43:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A5616A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B40D13C468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 11872 invoked by uid 399); 7 Oct 2007 06:43:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO slave.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTP; 7 Oct 2007 06:43:13 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Novembre In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0xD5B2F0FB Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:43:14 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: > The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet loaded. 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TRP-C07 is the ideal solution for the user who wants to = automate their application quickly, safely and cost-effectively.=20 RS232 to RS422/485 The Converter allows RS232 line signal to be = bi-directionally converted to RS-422 or RS-485 standard and transmit = data up to 1.2KM . Featuring automatic data format and baud rate detect = function user just need to plug in the unit and go without extra = configuration efforts. The Converter is equipped with 3000V DC of = isolation and internal surge protection on data lines to protect the = host computer and converter against high voltage spikes, as well as = ground potential differences.=20 Modbus AIO and DIO Trycom remote I/O module provides multi digital = Input and output channels that allow you to input the logic signal from = 0 to 30V DC/AC and power relays or open-collector output .All channel = features screw terminals for the convenience connection of field = signals. Build-in a full set of command, watch-dog, auto reset function = the module can be bi-directionally remote controlled by RS485 protocol, = the AIO and DIO module can be remote controlled by PC in ASCII or Modbus = RTU protocol.=20 =20 =20 If you are interested to our products pls don=A1=A6t hesitate to = contact with us. You are assured to get our best & quick service at = anytime. =20 We are looking forward to hear from you soon.=20 =20 Sincerely, Juvia Chen =20 Trycom Technology Co.,Ltd Tel: 886-2-86781191 Fax: 886-2-86781172 E-mail : juvia@trycom.com.tw web: www.trycom.com.tw=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0258_01C808F2.47D505F0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:00:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69E116A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753A13C465 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1895814pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:00:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=okBVEodFe6Xo5awPS+ZBQMw4rj5W0iiw8cc5gYYI4vA=; b=C3Y4NA2S62q2CsSNk5skE3Knc4Pg6SazLg8Ylrko0wowCmxWAxL2sfDaCsyQkyKWD1hglBRHQgRogbPeszMJsdLCQ+EhXZQpDuxMBSq35eWJMwI7X+5ojE9B0cai8BTatiQJ36S0yQYK4n0wNmP+HJliK9PHVWO66vG5R63Xlfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lvSAL4W7gGTg9PtOOveon38OdbiY9jZaWuMTP45mZey2EOlMleVo27c71X104OA1EpfMa60w6lLxcyswM5OCdzGYoD2x2oeuEOAKDaI2mEM5UI8UABRaCAvhMnEo+KtUhYiFaP0/I2cM4qHgBz53wfMpnuJTTX2O0/qaAn+WeOc= Received: by 10.64.201.7 with SMTP id y7mr17725989qbf.1191744036027; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.210.17 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 03:00:35 -0500 From: Novembre To: "Doug Barton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:00:37 -0000 Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file systems are mounted. That's what I meant in my post when I said "the first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet loaded", since the mounting comes first. Indeed, 'kldstat' shows that it's loaded. My point was, after mounting / and /usr, and after loading fuse.ko, why do I get the second error message above "Mounting late file systems: fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory" in 'dmesg -a' when 'ps -ax' and /var/log/message show that ntfs-3g has been run? Why my Windows 2000 partition is not mounted then if ntfs-3g is running? Thanks :) On 10/7/07, Doug Barton wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: > > > The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet > loaded. > > Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel module > loaded at boot time and then see what happens next? > > -- > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:10:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C55316A50F for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8FE13C461 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9789tnJ051800; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:09:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l9788wt2051785; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:08:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:08:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christopher Nehren In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071007100615.V51784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <972994690710061329t10b4eb49j8c95a539eec2bbe9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:10:06 -0000 >> i complete my software engineering degree. > > PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating for me it's just funny thing that needs several megs of RAM to display the current date ;) but as being treated as "technology" instead of just tool, it's used everythere without sense. in 90% cases just to link common header of HTML page with different body and common footer. simply using makefile with cat (possibly something SLIGHTLY more complicated) does the same. once, not every time page is viewed. > programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start > with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with exactly :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 09:20:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D98216A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lmailproxy02.edpnet.net (lmailproxy02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2700F13C447 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (213.219.188.234.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.188.234]) by lmailproxy02.edpnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l979KcW1004434; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:20:38 +0200 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:19:50 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <9f9a8c400710031757y5cd7c2ebq4b3530d2800a4c3c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f9a8c400710031757y5cd7c2ebq4b3530d2800a4c3c@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[<=?utf-8?q?d=0A=09P0?="xTw:F|)_r*WC\f8lz)g=a; 93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd; 6^Y:=*>@U; _\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710070919.50664.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4489/Sun Oct 7 03:22:43 2007 on lmailproxy02.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on lmailproxy02.edpnet.net Cc: compunction@gmail.com Subject: Re: Dual Boot Vista - Large Sector Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:20:42 -0000 On Thursday 04 October 2007 00:57:19 compunction wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD on the same drive as Vista in a dual boot > configuration. FDISK is reporting the normal geometry errors and it is > also stating that my Vista partition does not start on a sector boundary. > I chose to ignore these errors, but when I was creating the last slice on > the drive I got an error about not being able to create partition. I did > some research and I think the issue is related to the way Vista is creating > partitions. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923332 > http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html > > Does anyone know if/when fdisk will support this new partition layout? > > Thanks > Mark Maybe not the answer to your question, but these might help in dualbooting without too much problems : http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 10:16:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9F416A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe05.swip.net [212.247.154.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058EC13C44B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Received: from [85.19.218.45] (account mc467741@c2i.net [85.19.218.45] verified) by mailfe05.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTPA id 541214527; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:01:18 +0200 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:01:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071006192650.GA23085@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <20071006192650.GA23085@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710071101.42353.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: Joe Altman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic; fatal trap 12; on task 22, USB0: was Re: Moused issues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:16:21 -0000 On Saturday 06 October 2007, Joe Altman wrote: > chthonic.com/crash-crash-crash Hi, Do you have "options KDB" in your kernel config file ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-options.html You should get a prompt when it panics. Then you type in "bt" for backtrace. Maybe you could take a picture of that. Probably someone is accessing a NULL pointer. --HPS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 10:19:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D633416A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4962713C448 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70719DCC67; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:19:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:19:54 +0200 From: cpghost To: "James Jeffery" Message-ID: <20071007121954.2272029b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:19:59 -0000 On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:53:00 +0100 "James Jeffery" wrote: > Also if anyone wants to recommend any other books on C++ feel free. For beginners, I'd highly recommend "C++ Primer" / Fourth Ed. by Stanley B. Lippman et. al. But if you're starting to learn programming from scratch, it's much easier to begin with a scripted language like Python (others prefer Ruby or Perl, which are fine too). Why? C++ and STL are a powerful combination, but there's a lot of pitfalls and gotchas that you won't experience elsewhere (not so much with C itself, but with C++). And the biggest shortcoming of Standard C++ is its lack of standard libraries for stuff like network I/O, etc. Whatever you'll use for that will be intrinsically platform dependent. By learning a scripting language like Python, you'll get instant portability for their standard library as well as over 99% 3rd party modules. Once you've accumulated enough experience there, you can always catch up on C++. Whatever you opt to do, happy hacking and enjoy the ride! :) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 11:02:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8424016A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakenet1@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123CE13C44B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakenet1@optusnet.com.au) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (c220-239-13-242.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.13.242]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l97B2pBE004947 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:02:51 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20071006145603.GA11347@ozzmosis.com> References: <2F42244C-6F3F-48B3-AC05-FF068A791324@optusnet.com.au> <20071006145603.GA11347@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2757D900-0CD9-4B98-AC9B-2D6B610792C7@optusnet.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jerahmy Pocott Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:02:50 +1000 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: BASH as root shell (static linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:02:53 -0000 On 07/10/2007, at 12:56 AM, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 04:54:26AM +1000, Jerahmy Pocott wrote: > >> I'm wanting to use BASH as my root shell, so I compiled a >> statically linked >> version then tried to log in with only / mounted. But I was locked >> out >> because elf.ld.so could not be found.. >> >> I though elf was the native binary format these days? But it needs a >> library to run them? Is it possible to statically link against >> elf? Or do >> standalone binary have to be in aout format? I'm a bit confused as >> to why it >> requires this dynamic library.. > > I'm not sure if this helps at all, but you can build a static > version of > bash from the Ports tree: > > cd /usr/ports/shells/bash > make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 > > You'll need to cp bash to /bin. Thanks, that was the information I was looking for! I didn't know about that option to the port.. The problem seemed to be with the dependancies, libintl is dynamically linked to libiconv and some how that was causing it to build with a dynamic link.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 11:55:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26EC16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78E413C45D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IeUin-000FZM-NF; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: <008201c808d8$dfd697c0$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Gary Kline" , "Garrett Cooper" References: <009c01c80810$169e4830$6501a8c0@GRANT> <4707A770.9060804@u.washington.edu> <20071007021558.GB67456@thought.org> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:54:53 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Server Reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:55:05 -0000 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary Kline=20 To: Garrett Cooper=20 Cc: Grant Peel ; FreeBSD Mailing List=20 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Server Reboot On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:19:12AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Grant Peel wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >This is the first time in 10 years I have seen this. > > > >I have a Dell PE750 (vintage 2004), running FreeBSD 6.2 that had = been=20 > >up and running for about 30 days without any issues. > > > >The server somehow rebooted last night, apparently, all by itself. > > > >The last log file line I can find waqs about 12:30 AM. The dmesg = shows=20 > >it restarted about 1:12 AM. dmesg shows some file errors that were=20 > >fixed upon reboot, other that that, everything is back up and = running=20 > >normally. > > > >I was wondering if anyone has seen anything similar and if a cause = was=20 > >found. > > > >Here is what I know: > > > >-all servers (there are 5 more) are plugged into the same power bar = > >and none of the others were affected > >-none of the standard logs show any intrusion or root log in = attempt, > >-dmesg and console log show nothing of note, > >-the DRAC logs and ESM logs show nothing, > >-the sensors (temp,voltage,etc) logs currently show no issues, all=20 > >well withing normal parms. > >-my MRTG logs show no abnormal CPU usage or network activity. > > > > > >Any help would be appreciated, > > > >-Grant >=20 > Check the capacitors on the motherboard (in particular near the=20 > memory and processor); they may be going bad (esp with that vintage. = > 2004 Dell was a bad year =3DP..). > You'll be looking for swelled capacitors and possibly some orange=20 > dialectric being emitted. > -Garrett Strange. In just the past few, 2 or 3 or even 4 weeks my=20 Dell-8200 has spontaneouslyrebooted too. I do have a number of things in /var/log/messages, but nothing that I can seee that would cause this problem. Before the video-card started flaking out, this puppy ran for weeks/months happily. AFAIW, X (or a heavily-loaded system) shouldn't have aynything to do with this=20 problem, [yes/no??]. Any clues, Garrett?=20 Ah, wait: dmesg.yesterday says=20 rl0: link state changed to UP pid 729 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 4475 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 60174 (firefox-bin), uid 1000: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 47564 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 47570 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 79051 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 79057 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 3625 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 3631 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 74013 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) This file is timestamped 03 Oct 07 at 03:17 Anybody know why firefox would core dump? I have no clue waht "conftest" is... . Grant, how oten has your system failed? gary Gary, I have owned this server since new (in 2004), and this is the first = time it has done this. I also have another PE750 that was bought and = deployed the same time as this one and it has never done this. I am not running anything graphical on this, so I am guessing its not = the built in video card. It is running as a server only. Apache 2, = Mysql, 4PHP4, Perl5, Exim4, vm-pop3d, ipa, Openwebmail, and a number of = add in modules for all the above. One thing I may have neglected in my original post, is that it appears = the system may have been locked for a while since the last log entry I = can find befor the reboot was at about 12:20 am, the system then shows = the reboot at about 1:20 AM. -Grant --=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Total Control Panel Login =20 To: gpeel@thenetnow.com Message Score: 50 High (60): Pass =20 From: kline@tao.thought.org My Spam Blocking Level: High = Medium (75): Pass =20 Low (90): Pass=20 Block messages from this sender (blacklist) =20 =20 This message was delivered because the content filter score did = not exceed your filter level. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 12:03:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E594F16A421 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F7F13C48E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97C3CYi053439; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l97C3CtY053436; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:03:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20071007121954.2272029b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <20071007140258.H53435@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071007121954.2272029b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: James Jeffery , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:03:26 -0000 > a lot of pitfalls and gotchas that you won't experience > elsewhere (not so much with C itself, but with C++). And that's why it's good to start with C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 12:20:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA7B16A46C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0+3B+Q+23+lightray.org=dylan@internode.on.net) Received: from mail.internode.on.net (bld-mail04.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0672B13C49D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0+3B+Q+23+lightray.org=dylan@internode.on.net) Received: from [192.168.2.50] (unverified [59.167.151.203]) by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 495261-1927428 for multiple; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:35:14 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <4708CB78.3070301@lightray.org> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:05:12 +1000 From: Dylan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070806) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <009c01c80810$169e4830$6501a8c0@GRANT> <4707A770.9060804@u.washington.edu> <20071007021558.GB67456@thought.org> <008201c808d8$dfd697c0$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <008201c808d8$dfd697c0$6501a8c0@GRANT> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server Reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:20:53 -0000 Quick question, if you are running a non-X system why, or even more importantly, how is Firefox-bin running in the first place? Dylan Grant Peel wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Kline > To: Garrett Cooper > Cc: Grant Peel ; FreeBSD Mailing List > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: Server Reboot > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:19:12AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Grant Peel wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > > >This is the first time in 10 years I have seen this. > > > > > >I have a Dell PE750 (vintage 2004), running FreeBSD 6.2 that had been > > >up and running for about 30 days without any issues. > > > > > >The server somehow rebooted last night, apparently, all by itself. > > > > > >The last log file line I can find waqs about 12:30 AM. The dmesg shows > > >it restarted about 1:12 AM. dmesg shows some file errors that were > > >fixed upon reboot, other that that, everything is back up and running > > >normally. > > > > > >I was wondering if anyone has seen anything similar and if a cause was > > >found. > > > > > >Here is what I know: > > > > > >-all servers (there are 5 more) are plugged into the same power bar > > >and none of the others were affected > > >-none of the standard logs show any intrusion or root log in attempt, > > >-dmesg and console log show nothing of note, > > >-the DRAC logs and ESM logs show nothing, > > >-the sensors (temp,voltage,etc) logs currently show no issues, all > > >well withing normal parms. > > >-my MRTG logs show no abnormal CPU usage or network activity. > > > > > > > > >Any help would be appreciated, > > > > > >-Grant > > > > Check the capacitors on the motherboard (in particular near the > > memory and processor); they may be going bad (esp with that vintage. > > 2004 Dell was a bad year =P..). > > You'll be looking for swelled capacitors and possibly some orange > > dialectric being emitted. > > -Garrett > > Strange. In just the past few, 2 or 3 or even 4 weeks my > Dell-8200 has spontaneouslyrebooted too. I do have a number of > things in /var/log/messages, but nothing that I can seee that > would cause this problem. Before the video-card started flaking > out, this puppy ran for weeks/months happily. AFAIW, X (or a > heavily-loaded system) shouldn't have aynything to do with this > problem, [yes/no??]. Any clues, Garrett? > > Ah, wait: dmesg.yesterday says > > > > rl0: link state changed to UP > pid 729 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 4475 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 60174 (firefox-bin), uid 1000: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 47564 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 47570 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 79051 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 79057 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 3625 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 3631 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 74013 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) > > > This file is timestamped 03 Oct 07 at 03:17 > > Anybody know why firefox would core dump? I have no clue waht > "conftest" is... . > > Grant, how oten has your system failed? > > > gary > > Gary, > I have owned this server since new (in 2004), and this is the first time it has done this. I also have another PE750 that was bought and deployed the same time as this one and it has never done this. > > I am not running anything graphical on this, so I am guessing its not the built in video card. It is running as a server only. Apache 2, Mysql, 4PHP4, Perl5, Exim4, vm-pop3d, ipa, Openwebmail, and a number of add in modules for all the above. > > One thing I may have neglected in my original post, is that it appears the system may have been locked for a while since the last log entry I can find befor the reboot was at about 12:20 am, the system then shows the reboot at about 1:20 AM. > > -Grant > > > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Total Control Panel Login > To: gpeel@thenetnow.com Message Score: 50 High (60): Pass > From: kline@tao.thought.org My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass > Low (90): Pass > Block messages from this sender (blacklist) > > This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 12:26:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508C416A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@chdevelopment.se) Received: from av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158CB13C459 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@chdevelopment.se) Received: by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9491C386D5; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:26:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A555383FA; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:26:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from melissa.chdevelopment.se (90-227-26-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [90.227.26.163]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B10D37E43; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:26:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4708D076.3090406@chdevelopment.se> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:26:30 +0200 From: Christer Hermansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070811 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Jeffery References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:26:32 -0000 James Jeffery wrote: > Evening to you all (or morning in some parts of the world). > > Im learning C++ from Sams Teach Yourself C++, now many will call this > a dumb method, and the books pointless and stupid, but i have no knowledge > of any lower level languages, so i do need to be spoon fed the basics. > > Im using Borland C++ compiler on XP and was wondering what compilers > there are for FreeBSD that would allow me to compile and execute some > of the examples i will practise from the book. > > Also if anyone wants to recommend any other books on C++ feel free. We > are learning VB at college at the moment, i like it, but its not machine > portable > and i dont like the whole drag and drop way of creating a program, seems > like > cheating. > > Thanks for reading > > James > The FreeBSD Developers' Handbook could be good to check out as well: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/tools-compiling.html I think it's best to start with C and then move onto C++, however I use C for low level things with only textbased user interfaces and Java for things that require a GUI. -- Christer Hermansson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 13:06:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D5916A420 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from williamkow@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp108.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp108.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.95.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D23B313C4B2 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from williamkow@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 53416 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 13:06:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type; b=Sfl7b1de6Li/xXIs9TtRE/UQsV0uApVfK9du32cbvkxPp08Rph0R/pQ8jDvh+LXK81y+ksS+VxCFVJtdRnV2l6DOiTSUKOK7xof0721m/jQRiedZvPhewXC+xWKhEpS8CzbpJ8KDjXgzho11Kd/4hImesualh56z5lUFT+Hxqz0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.32.172.50?) (williamkow@203.92.154.37 with plain) by smtp108.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 13:05:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bTPDuGIVM1nPE1pGL8aiiOJjb89jk7IuWuxtzczdZEH0T6RdSfOlDfTQpjcdyjDPNGE26BK7XebhzGWajiQ2UtJpFyioONAkhR0cHr8h8C1dqGD7aaj3zXUeBFgM Message-ID: <4708D990.7020809@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:05:20 +0800 From: williamkow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040903020705080800080704" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse from Logitech X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:06:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040903020705080800080704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyboby advice me whether the Marble_Mouse from Logitech, be used and recognized by FreeBSD6.2-Release ? I'm about to purchase it mouse for my computer which be installed with FreeBSD 6.2 For more information of this mouse, see the attachment and the link below. http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/156&cl=my,en Thank you. --------------040903020705080800080704-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 13:08:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7227616A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1206E13C478 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 92654 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 13:08:46 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 13:08:45 -0000 Message-ID: <1c6701c808e3$28402530$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" References: <001101c8079b$f0be7c80$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <499c70c0710051538u127542b6hfbd8a08ed95dc3d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:08:30 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am looking for a bandwidth limiter tool as to time andkilobytes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:08:42 -0000 Hello I had a look at the pf but I could not find what I looked for. For instance, I have a ip block for my customer. I want to limit it by 1 Gbyte traffic for a week. I also want to monitor that. How can I do with pf or another tool ? Subject: Re: I am looking for a bandwidth limiter tool as to time andkilobytes. > On 10/6/07, Halid Faith wrote: > > Hello > > > > I use dummynet to limit bandwidth on freebsd6.2. > > > > But I don't know how I limit an ip blocks as to time ( for instance like 1 Gbyte in 1 month ). > > > > I am looking for a tool which provides to limit bytes according to time. > > > > is there any free tool for this case? > > > > Thanks already > > Hell Halid, > > Have you looked into pf and altq options? > > > -- > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 13:14:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF54B16A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.19.101.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C42913C43E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C54C4D15; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([67.19.101.164]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23968-08; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nexus.bsdlan.org (a213-22-17-158.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.17.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D72C4AF4; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4708D729.8030905@barafranca.com> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:55:05 +0100 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <00a201c8085b$f23b0720$0800020a@mickey> <6.0.0.22.2.20071006161249.025449f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <001801c80862$b10f8260$0800020a@mickey> <6.0.0.22.2.20071006171409.0252dba8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20071007010336.U47947@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071007010336.U47947@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1 required=4 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building a SAN using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:14:15 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> different file systems, etc... >> >> I think you want to look into ZFS then, available on current. > > ZFS is not a distributed filesystem AFAIK > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You could always ZFS+ggate :) Hugo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 13:39:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5686216A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cuongvt@fpt.vn) Received: from isp-fcmail.FPT.NET (isp-fcmail.fpt.net [210.245.0.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8616A13C458 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cuongvt@fpt.vn) Received: from isp-mta2.fpt.vn ([210.245.0.151]) by isp-fcmail.FPT.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:39:40 +0700 Received: from [58.187.203.68] by isp-mta2.fpt.vn [210.245.0.151] Message-ID: <4708E19A.4050103@fpt.vn> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:39:38 +0700 From: vuthecuong User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2007 13:39:40.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[82D62900:01C808E7] Subject: zsh listed directory not colored in aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:39:44 -0000 Currently I switched to fluxbox using aterm, not xterm because of it transparency. But in aterm, directories and text stop colorizing at all. how can I do now? P/S: In .Xdefault there is no content. And in .zshrc there are: export LSCOLORS=ExCxFxFxBxGxGxababaeae export CLICOLOR=$LSCOLORS alias ls='ls -G' Tnx u very much From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 13:48:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C61216A468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678EC13C457 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0121CDEE; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 05:48:05 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:48:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Doug Barton , Novembre , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:48:06 -0000 On Sunday 07 October 2007 10:00:35 Novembre wrote: > On 10/7/07, Doug Barton wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: > > > The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet > > > > loaded. > > > > Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel > > module loaded at boot time and then see what happens next? > > Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in > /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file > systems are mounted. Filesystems that need modules from anywhere else then the root partition cannot be loaded from /etc/fstab. Either make fusefs-kmod install in /boot/modules (echo 'KMOD_DIR=/boot/modules' >/usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile.local) or mount the filesystem using an rc(8) script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. In the end you do not really care whether it's mounted 20 seconds or 1 second before login prompt is available. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:03:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB60416A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D8913C43E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97E3G87044011; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5F795B869; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:16 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: williamkow Message-ID: <20071007140316.GA84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: williamkow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4708D990.7020809@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4708D990.7020809@yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse from Logitech X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:03:18 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 09:05:20PM +0800, williamkow wrote: > Can anyboby advice me whether the Marble_Mouse from Logitech, > be used and recognized by FreeBSD6.2-Release ? I've used this trackball without problems with Xorg. Here's the relevant part of my xorg.conf; Section "InputDevice" Identifier "MarbleMouse" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "ButtonMapping" "3 2 1 6 7" Option "CorePointer" "on" EndSection Note that this is for a left-handed person. For right-handed use, you need to swap 3 and 1 in the ButtonMapping, IIRC. Note that I _don't_ use moused(8). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHCOckEnfvsMMhpyURAqGJAJ9jZLcjtY5pvpjVTW0HRNlhzaTjuwCghszn Tt/N7CxwwVTr2SXvq/efUXQ= =65XQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:07:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DDB16A421 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7146713C49D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A951CDFC for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:07:23 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:07:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <001101c8079b$f0be7c80$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <499c70c0710051538u127542b6hfbd8a08ed95dc3d1@mail.gmail.com> <1c6701c808e3$28402530$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <1c6701c808e3$28402530$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710071607.22529.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: I am looking for a bandwidth limiter tool as to time andkilobytes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:07:24 -0000 On Sunday 07 October 2007 15:08:30 Halid Faith wrote: > I had a look at the pf but I could not find what I looked for. > > For instance, I have a ip block for my customer. I want to limit it by 1 > Gbyte traffic for a week. That's not bandwidth, which is a why a firewall doesn't support it. Bandwidth is how /fast/ you can travel, traffic is how /far/ you can travel. > I also want to monitor that. > How can I do with pf or another tool ? If you assign each customer a pf queue, you can use the output of `pfctl -vsq' as your base for monitoring. I don't know of any ready-made packages, maybe someone else or over on isp@ they know. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:13:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7D516A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-54.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-54.bluehost.com [69.89.20.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DFAF13C45B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 26765 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2007 14:13:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 14:13:36 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IeWsy-0007LH-DN; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:13:36 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l96GXDs3061401; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:33:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l96GXDul061400; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:33:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:33:12 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071006163312.GB61195@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Jeffery References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Cc: James Jeffery Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:13:37 -0000 On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 10:13:56PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:53:00PM +0100, James Jeffery wrote: > > Evening to you all (or morning in some parts of the world). > > > > Im learning C++ from Sams Teach Yourself C++, now many will call this > > a dumb method, and the books pointless and stupid, but i have no knowledge > > of any lower level languages, so i do need to be spoon fed the basics. > > I'd say that C++ isn't the easiest way to learn programming. I'd suggest > starting with Perl, Ruby or Python. If you're amenable to languages other than C++, I'd specifically recommend Ruby, via the book "Learn to Program" by Chris Pine. Ruby and Perl are both excellent first languages, and both "Learn to Program" and "Learning Perl" by Randal Schwartz et al. are excellent books. Ruby's much better for learning object oriented programming techniques, though, and anyone learning to program anything like mainstream languages these days should learn some OOP (generally speaking). In the Unix world (such as with FreeBSD), I'd recommend C before C++, too -- though probably long after Ruby or Perl. If you specifically want to learn C++, though, and skip the middle man: more power to ya, and good luck. > > > Im using Borland C++ compiler on XP and was wondering what compilers > > there are for FreeBSD that would allow me to compile and execute some > > of the examples i will practise from the book. > > FreeBSD comes with the GNU C++ and C compilers installed. There are > others available (Intel) or in progress (OpenWatcom). Also in progress is the TenDRA compiler, though FreeBSD support is part of what's "in progress". http://www.tendra.org/about/ -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Dr. Ron Paul: "Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:16:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02216A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hannah.tgi.net (hannah.tgi.net [64.34.34.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A6C13C468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: (qmail 9046 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 07:22:05 -0700 Received: from cs213-29.fsmodem.washington.edu (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (140.142.173.30) by tgi.net with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 07:22:05 -0700 Message-ID: <4708EA12.3020509@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:15:46 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vuthecuong References: <4708E19A.4050103@fpt.vn> In-Reply-To: <4708E19A.4050103@fpt.vn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zsh listed directory not colored in aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:16:17 -0000 vuthecuong wrote: > Currently I switched to fluxbox using aterm, not xterm because of it > transparency. > But in aterm, directories and text stop colorizing at all. > how can I do now? > P/S: In .Xdefault there is no content. > And in .zshrc there are: > export LSCOLORS=ExCxFxFxBxGxGxababaeae > export CLICOLOR=$LSCOLORS > > alias ls='ls -G' > > Tnx u very much You may have to fudge around with aterm's set TERM variable in order to get this to work properly. The manpage for ls(1) has all of the details: . -Garrett PS You don't need -G if you define CLICOLORS ;)... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:21:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2028516A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-75.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-75.bluehost.com [69.89.20.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3DC913C4B8 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 10722 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2007 14:21:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 14:21:22 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IeX0U-00089n-3Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:21:22 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l96Gex6w061440 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:40:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l96GexoS061439 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:40:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:40:58 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071006164058.GC61195@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <972994690710061329t10b4eb49j8c95a539eec2bbe9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:21:23 -0000 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:07:59AM +0000, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating > > system that happens to be able to use extensions that can provide C > > style linkage. That said, I laude you for your desire to learn a real > > programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start > > with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with > > absolutely top-notch documentation, and generally speaking, its > > third-party extensions have similar documentation quality. > > Ruby is *VERY* easy to learn and there are many online and offline > books for teaching it (or depending on your personal ideals on > bittorrent)... it has one advantage over perl it much less > syntactically ugly Perl gets a lot of bad press for its syntax. It's mostly undeserved, however. I think the two things about Perl that contribute most to that reputation are: 1. sigils on variables (there's a widespread unreasoning hatred of this language characteristic in some circles) 2. the fact that OOP in Perl actually *is* very ugly -- even if the rest of the language isn't As Paul Graham has been known to say (even if he wasn't talking about Perl specifically, at the time), real ugliness isn't harsh-looking syntax; it's having to build programs using the wrong concepts. Perl's full of ways to use the *right* concepts, as long as you don't misuse it like most of the code at Matt's Script Archive does. That's a not-so-subtle hint to avoid Matt's Script Archive if you're looking for examples of good Perl code. Perlmonks is much better for that. On the other hand, Aryeh Friedman is right that Ruby is very easy to learn, and it too is an excellent language. It's also much better (in my opinion at least) for learning object oriented programming techniques than Perl. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Brian K. Reid: "In computer science, we stand on each other's feet." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:24:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904AA16A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-54.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-54.bluehost.com [69.89.20.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F84C13C4B6 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 6977 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2007 14:24:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 14:24:15 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IeX3H-0008Qh-FE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:24:15 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l96GhrGs061460 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:43:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l96GhqjH061459 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:43:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:43:52 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071006164352.GD61195@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <972994690710061329t10b4eb49j8c95a539eec2bbe9@mail.gmail.com> <20071007100615.V51784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071007100615.V51784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:24:16 -0000 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:08:58AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>i complete my software engineering degree. > > > >PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating > > for me it's just funny thing that needs several megs of RAM to display the > current date ;) > > but as being treated as "technology" instead of just tool, it's used > everythere without sense. > in 90% cases just to link common header of HTML page with different body > and common footer. > > simply using makefile with cat (possibly something SLIGHTLY more > complicated) does the same. > once, not every time page is viewed. That's not a very practical answer for someone dealing with a shared hosting provider. Most of them don't allow shell access and make execution. On the other hand, for many common uses of PHP, SSI is at least as appropriate and simpler to use. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:27:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFFC16A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hannah.tgi.net (hannah.tgi.net [64.34.34.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9E113C45A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: (qmail 13482 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 07:33:39 -0700 Received: from cs213-29.fsmodem.washington.edu (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (140.142.173.30) by greatnorthern.net with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 07:33:39 -0700 Message-ID: <4708ECC9.8070107@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:27:21 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel , Gary Kline , questions@freebsd.org References: <009c01c80810$169e4830$6501a8c0@GRANT> <4707A770.9060804@u.washington.edu> <20071007021558.GB67456@thought.org> <008201c808d8$dfd697c0$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <008201c808d8$dfd697c0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Server Reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:27:52 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Gary Kline > *To:* Garrett Cooper > *Cc:* Grant Peel ; FreeBSD Mailing > List > *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:15 PM > *Subject:* Re: Server Reboot > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:19:12AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Grant Peel wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > > >This is the first time in 10 years I have seen this. > > > > > >I have a Dell PE750 (vintage 2004), running FreeBSD 6.2 that > had been > > >up and running for about 30 days without any issues. > > > > > >The server somehow rebooted last night, apparently, all by itself. > > > > > >The last log file line I can find waqs about 12:30 AM. The > dmesg shows > > >it restarted about 1:12 AM. dmesg shows some file errors that were > > >fixed upon reboot, other that that, everything is back up and > running > > >normally. > > > > > >I was wondering if anyone has seen anything similar and if a > cause was > > >found. > > > > > >Here is what I know: > > > > > >-all servers (there are 5 more) are plugged into the same power > bar > > >and none of the others were affected > > >-none of the standard logs show any intrusion or root log in > attempt, > > >-dmesg and console log show nothing of note, > > >-the DRAC logs and ESM logs show nothing, > > >-the sensors (temp,voltage,etc) logs currently show no issues, all > > >well withing normal parms. > > >-my MRTG logs show no abnormal CPU usage or network activity. > > > > > > > > >Any help would be appreciated, > > > > > >-Grant > > > > Check the capacitors on the motherboard (in particular near the > > memory and processor); they may be going bad (esp with that > vintage. > > 2004 Dell was a bad year =P..). > > You'll be looking for swelled capacitors and possibly some orange > > dialectric being emitted. > > -Garrett > > Strange. In just the past few, 2 or 3 or even 4 weeks my > Dell-8200 has spontaneouslyrebooted too. I do have a number of > things in /var/log/messages, but nothing that I can seee that > would cause this problem. Before the video-card started flaking > out, this puppy ran for weeks/months happily. AFAIW, X (or a > heavily-loaded system) shouldn't have aynything to do with this > problem, [yes/no??]. Any clues, Garrett? > > Ah, wait: dmesg.yesterday says > > > > rl0: link state changed to UP > pid 729 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 4475 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 60174 (firefox-bin), uid 1000: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 47564 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 47570 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 79051 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 79057 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 3625 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 3631 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 74013 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) > > > This file is timestamped 03 Oct 07 at 03:17 > > Anybody know why firefox would core dump? I have no clue waht > "conftest" is... . > > Grant, how oten has your system failed? > > > gary > Gary, > > I have owned this server since new (in 2004), and this is the > first time it has done this. I also have another PE750 that was > bought and deployed the same time as this one and it has never > done this. > > I am not running anything graphical on this, so I am guessing its > not the built in video card. It is running as a server only. > Apache 2, Mysql, 4PHP4, Perl5, Exim4, vm-pop3d, ipa, > Openwebmail, and a number of add in modules for all the above. > > One thing I may have neglected in my original post, is that it > appears the system may have been locked for a while since the last > log entry I can find befor the reboot was at about 12:20 am, the > system then shows the reboot at about 1:20 AM. > > -Grant > > > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org > www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Gary, Depending on the webpages, amount of memory in use, and other things, firefox did have a tendency to crash from time to time when I used it. Most of the time it was an indication of bugs created by over-optimized binaries or rogue plugins / add-ons / extensions. conftest is run by autoconf, and a signal should only be 'thrown' (IIRC) if a test fails. Not sure about the signal 6 (SIGABRT) and other segfault stuff though.. About the X11 comment.. actually a system that's heavier loaded than a lighter loaded system will exhibit more issues if any exist. So the more you run (at one time), the more problems you will see (possibly...). Grant, I'd check your thermal stuff then (both on your drives and your case). What might be happening is that the machine is heating up after extended periods of intense computation or disk use, then it reaches the threshold operating temperature, and reboots. HTH, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:38:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8D216A420 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajul@bm.matrik.edu.my) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA8013C4B0 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajul@bm.matrik.edu.my) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so447411rvb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.52.9 with SMTP id z9mr1928053wfz.1191766157258; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.77.8 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:09:17 +0800 From: "TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Memory ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:38:11 -0000 Hi all, i am maybe new to BSD. I had setup my DELL server 2900 to run freeBSD 7.0server but i have seen a message that ignored my 4GB of my memory in my server. Can somebody tell me what is happening and give me some idea so that i can maximize my memory usage. My total memory is 8GB. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:46:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9A616A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F0A13C469 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-127-199.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.127.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95FCEBC3B; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:46:37 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin" Message-Id: <20071007104637.e203bc83.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:46:40 -0000 "TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin" wrote: > > Hi all, > i am maybe new to BSD. I had setup my DELL server 2900 to run freeBSD > 7.0server but i have seen a message that ignored my 4GB of my memory > in my > server. Can somebody tell me what is happening and give me some idea so > that i can maximize my memory usage. My total memory is 8GB. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#PAE -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:57:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335CD16A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C2F13C467 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97EuwCW073071; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:57:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED393B869; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:56:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:56:57 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin Message-ID: <20071007145657.GB84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:57:07 -0000 --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:09:17PM +0800, TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin wr= ote: > Hi all, > i am maybe new to BSD. I had setup my DELL server 2900 to run freeBSD > 7.0server but i have seen a message that ignored my 4GB of my memory > in my server. Can somebody tell me what is happening and give me some > idea so that i can maximize my memory usage. My total memory is 8GB. FreeBSD i386 (32 bits) can normally only address 4GB. So you can either; - use the PAE extension (but see =A78.4.1 in the FreeBSD Handbook) - switch to the amd64 architecture. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHCPO5EnfvsMMhpyURAhaMAJ0Z92RvTi9WK/kPF+ROW/4aaXUPjwCbBx6q WZMBTUmX7fen9ZqmKII9v2A= =LBe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:08:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805B616A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A98C13C474 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97F8U53000992; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:08:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 40562B869; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:08:30 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Jeffery Message-ID: <20071007150830.GC84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Jeffery References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20071006163312.GB61195@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071006163312.GB61195@demeter.hydra> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:08:32 -0000 --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 10:33:12AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > In the Unix world (such as with FreeBSD), I'd recommend C before C++, > too -- though probably long after Ruby or Perl. Too right. But it should be noted that both C and C++ give you enough rope to hang yourself with. My preference for doing things is; 1) Can it be done with a shell-script? (esp. one-time hacks) 2) Else use Perl, Octave, Ruby, but 3) If speed is key, use C. :-) > > > Im using Borland C++ compiler on XP and was wondering what compilers > > > there are for FreeBSD that would allow me to compile and execute some > > > of the examples i will practise from the book. > >=20 > > FreeBSD comes with the GNU C++ and C compilers installed. There are > > others available (Intel) or in progress (OpenWatcom). >=20 > Also in progress is the TenDRA compiler, though FreeBSD support is part > of what's "in progress". Both OpenBSD and NetBSD (pkgsrc) have recently imported Anders Magnusson's BSD-licensed pcc compiler. At this time it is i386 en C only. In time this might be a faster (as in compile-time) alternative to gcc. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHCPZuEnfvsMMhpyURAqNKAJ44hsP2pVl0vBOKmGwvGXxlMBHW+gCfbZMT f9tn/iTXRMzeCmefTcHkllA= =8Rz7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:32:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF32116A46B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F83613C4B6 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 71798 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2007 15:32:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=W+QJfuKSzKUEGd2p8alYptndSVvdRkIxz+H/JNx0PtC0/hbu4kXHfnYDgxIGr4rTz7OOOfMsHqZeF8uduRUAD9HxoV80Nghq0IQ14HnbYiFopUln5i/4rgMdlm0k0H1PrTH+SGVxs8r7TkQ5QvP/SwVJ57/QZjrBWJ3tFWSUXRo=; X-YMail-OSG: aW6ial0VM1kSTywUBnqj7AhongCI1roH7gtpMQHM Received: from [195.241.94.180] by web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:32:46 PDT Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <789069.71742.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: help, make installworld fails!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:32:48 -0000 Gents, I'm about to experience the first problem with FreeBSD after I've tried to upgrade my kernel to the latest sources because of the security advisories. I have a custom kernel running FreeBSD version 6.2 on a amd64 system. My procedure was: ******************** step 1) change the src-supfile file to get the version of freebsd you want step 2) Change file /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MYKERNEL to get the kernel options you want step 3) cp /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MYKERNEL /root/kernels/MYKERNEL (make a backup of the kernel configuration in a seperate directory) step 4) cvsup -g -L 2 src-supfile (check if MYKERNEL is still in /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory otherwise copy from /root/kernels directory) step 5) shutdown now and go into single user mode step 6) look at step 11 step 7) cd /usr/src and make buildworld step 8) make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL step 9) make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL step 10) reboot into single user mode step 11) Then, when the system starts a /bin/sh shell instance, type: # adjkerntz -i # fsck -p # mount -u / # mount -a step 12) cd /usr/src step 13) mergemaster -p (pre buildworld mode, look into /usr/src/UPDATING to check if you have to do this before step 7!!) step 14) make installworld step 15) mergemaster -i step 16) exit and reboot *************** However, at step 14 I ran out of luck as I got the following error: mkdir -p /tmp/install.gurnx5I7 for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep install-info ln lockf make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.gurnx5I7; done cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=amd64 MACHINE=amd64 CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.gurnx5I7 make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making hierarchy -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/include mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist -p /var/named mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p / cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s usr/src/sys sys cd /usr/share/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . cd /usr/share/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift; done cd /usr/share/openssl/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift; done cd /usr/share/openssl/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . cd /usr/share/nls; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/nls.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift; done -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Installing everything -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install ===> share/info (install) ===> include (install) creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh touch: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/src/include. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. So what do I have to do now? How do I proceed next? Hope somebody can help me out, thanks Dino --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:42:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6853016A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D281913C465 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup211.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.211]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l97Ffkao019621 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:42:10 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l97Ffedl002335; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:41:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l97FfO2U002333; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:41:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:41:24 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Frank Jahnke Message-ID: <20071007154124.GD1866@kobe.laptop> References: <1191604254.2944.12.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <86k5q1gs8t.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> <1191621784.2944.60.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <20071006092228.GA2185@kobe.laptop> <1191685849.960.4.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1191685849.960.4.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.913, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.49, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Equations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:42:28 -0000 On 2007-10-06 08:50, Frank Jahnke wrote: >On Sat, 2007-10-06 at 12:22 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Since the first releases of TeX, there have been many interesting >> developments about font-handling in the TeX world, like the typeface >> definitions of ConTeXt, and the drop-in packages of LaTeX which allow >> one to use Palatino, Helvetica, and other classic fonts. > > I figured this was the case, and it makes a difference. This is OT, > but do you have a link that describe what font families are available? > I assume the Postscript base set is easy. But how about the others? > > Continuing the OT, it is also interesting that the desktop publishing > applications that I am aware of (an that is certainly incomplete) do > not handle equations very well either. Scribus didn't the last time I > looked; Frame might but that is not really an option. ConTeXt includes several pre-defined `typescripts'. If you want to read more details about fonts in ConTeXt, then the wiki of ConTeXt may be useful; especially the pages: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TypeScripts One of the examples which I like a lot is the installation of `Lucida' fonts in ConTeXt: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida The font installation instructions use Windows-like pathnames, but they are easy to translate to `Unix-speak' too :-) To answer the original questions: ``what font families are available?'' ``I assume the Postscript base set is easy.'' There are several typescripts available as predefined typescripts in ConTeXt. A nice demo of these typescripts in action can be found at: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/showfont.pdf This example PDF includes a typescript demo which uses the standard PostScript(TM) fonts (Times, Courier, and Helvetica) too :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:54:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFD816A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB0613C4A5 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (pool-71-245-176-242.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.245.176.242]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:54:43 -0400 id 00056420.47090143.00010B38 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Don O'Neil In-Reply-To: <00a201c8085b$f23b0720$0800020a@mickey> References: <00a201c8085b$f23b0720$0800020a@mickey> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:54:42 -0400 Message-Id: <1191772482.4098.20.camel@new-host-2.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 (2.10.3-4.fc7) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building a SAN using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:54:45 -0000 On Sat, 2007-10-06 at 14:00 -0700, Don O'Neil wrote: > Anyone have any resources for building a FreeBSD based SAN device? IE, how > can I create an extendable file system using networked drives in muliple Spinnaker Networks, (spinnakernet.com), of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a hardware company which builds network attached storage (NAS) servers. But they got gobbled up by NetApp =/ ~BAS > boxes without paying a billion dollars for someones expensive drive arrays. > > TIA! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 16:15:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD94916A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B10A13C45A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from Lowell-Desk.lan (Lowell-Desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9359928461; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Lowell-Desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D45051CD86; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:15:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Dino Vliet References: <789069.71742.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:15:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <789069.71742.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (Dino Vliet's message of "Sun\, 7 Oct 2007 08\:32\:46 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44zlyu3nqy.fsf@Lowell-Desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help, make installworld fails!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:15:05 -0000 I pay less attention to e-mail messages with lots of exclamation points in the subject (because they're usually spam). You might want to consider that in the future... Dino Vliet writes: > ===> include (install) > creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh > touch: not found Try looking at the FreeBSD FAQ entry entitled 'Why does buildworld/installworld die with the message "touch: not found"?'. You can find that entry at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#TOUCH-NOT-FOUND [briefly: it's usually a sign that your clocks are off] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 16:28:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EED16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsecor@seqlogic.com) Received: from dpe2600.seqlogic.net (dpe2600.seqlogic.net [208.72.157.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0D113C48D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsecor@seqlogic.com) Received: (qmail 11743 invoked by uid 89); 7 Oct 2007 12:28:12 -0400 Received: from adsl-065-013-079-217.sip.bct.bellsouth.net (HELO ?10.1.1.102?) (rsecor@seqlogic.com@65.13.79.217) by dpe2600.seqlogic.net with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 12:28:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <200710062125.12436.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <200710062125.12436.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Secor Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:27:55 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: Problem with PHP cli core dumping (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:28:00 -0000 On Oct 6, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 18:54:54 Richard Secor wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Mel wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 25 September 2007 18:50:39 Derrick wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Eric wrote: >>>>>> Derrick wrote: >>>>>>> so it's sessions.so >>>>>>> I've tried rebuilding it, but still has the same issue. >>>> >>>> Move session to indicated spot, then try php -v again. If it >> >> still coredumps, >> >>>> move above spl. If it still coredumps, move it up one spot and >> >> rerun, till it >> >>>> stops coredumping. >>>> >>>> The bug is in the general extension destructor and changing the >> >> order till it >> >>>> works is the only remedy. >>> >>> Thanks to all those that input some output. >>> >>> I moved extension=session.so to the start of the file after >>> trying the >>> first couple suggestions, and all is working now.. >> >> I had this problem, however, after changing the file around I'm >> still getting core dumps. >> I find that this happens whenever I upgrade from the port :( >> Anyway, it seems I'm getting the dumps from spl.so (it's fine if I >> comment it and anything that depends on it). >> I've tried putting it in every line of the extension file but it >> still dumps out. >> I've tried completely rebuilding all of php and all associated >> extensions, still dumps out. > > It's not spl itself that needs to be moved. There's extensions that > are > required to be loaded *before* spl and most likely others. > > You can speed things up as follows: > php -i >/dev/null 2>&1 > gdb -core ./php.core -exec `which php` > > [snip symbol loading] > > (gdb) bt > #0 0x00000000 in ?? () > #1 0x28e90544 in __do_global_dtors_aux () > from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/simplexml.so > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > That's the one that needs to be moved up. > > -- > Mel > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on > dpe2600.seqlogic.net > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=no > version=3.2.3 > Received: (qmail 75177 invoked by uid 98); 6 Oct 2007 15:25:44 -0400 > Received: from 66.230.99.27 by dpe2600.seqlogic.net (envelope-from > , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-2.01 > (clamdscan: 0.91.2/4339. spamassassin: 3.2.3. > Clear:RC:0(66.230.99.27):SA:0(0.1/5.0):. > Processed in 8.284415 secs); 06 Oct 2007 19:25:44 -0000 > Received: from unknown (HELO snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net) > (66.230.99.27) > by dpe2600.seqlogic.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 2007 15:25:35 -0400 > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877A71CDEE; > Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:25:15 -0800 (AKDT) > From: Mel > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Problem with PHP cli core dumping (SOLVED) > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:25:11 +0200 > User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 > Cc: Richard Secor > References: > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > Message-Id: <200710062125.12436.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> > > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 18:54:54 Richard Secor wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Mel wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 25 September 2007 18:50:39 Derrick wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Eric wrote: >>>>>> Derrick wrote: >>>>>>> so it's sessions.so >>>>>>> I've tried rebuilding it, but still has the same issue. >>>> >>>> Move session to indicated spot, then try php -v again. If it >> >> still coredumps, >> >>>> move above spl. If it still coredumps, move it up one spot and >> >> rerun, till it >> >>>> stops coredumping. >>>> >>>> The bug is in the general extension destructor and changing the >> >> order till it >> >>>> works is the only remedy. >>> >>> Thanks to all those that input some output. >>> >>> I moved extension=session.so to the start of the file after >>> trying the >>> first couple suggestions, and all is working now.. >> >> I had this problem, however, after changing the file around I'm >> still getting core dumps. >> I find that this happens whenever I upgrade from the port :( >> Anyway, it seems I'm getting the dumps from spl.so (it's fine if I >> comment it and anything that depends on it). >> I've tried putting it in every line of the extension file but it >> still dumps out. >> I've tried completely rebuilding all of php and all associated >> extensions, still dumps out. > > It's not spl itself that needs to be moved. There's extensions that > are > required to be loaded *before* spl and most likely others. > > You can speed things up as follows: > php -i >/dev/null 2>&1 > gdb -core ./php.core -exec `which php` > > [snip symbol loading] > > (gdb) bt > #0 0x00000000 in ?? () > #1 0x28e90544 in __do_global_dtors_aux () > from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/simplexml.so > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > That's the one that needs to be moved up. > > -- > Mel Why doesn't PHP check for dependency and give you error messages letting you know (or at least map around somehow)? I hope they change this so it makes more sense. -Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 16:41:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E99D16A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3714613C4A5 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l97GfJfS022164; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:41:19 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:41:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <789069.71742.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <789069.71742.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710070941.22542.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Dino Vliet Subject: Re: help, make installworld fails!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:41:24 -0000 On Sunday 07 October 2007, Dino Vliet wrote: > Gents, > >>> Installing everything > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install > ===> share/info (install) > ===> include (install) > creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh > touch: not found > *** Error code 127 > > Stop in /usr/src/include. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > So what do I have to do now? How do I proceed next? > Hope somebody can help me out, Set your system clock to the right time. The only reason make tries to touch anything is when it thinks something needs to be redone. This means something in your source is newer than what it created in the buildworld phase. Kent > > thanks > Dino > > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s > user panel and lay it on us. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 16:44:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1076716A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47ADC13C468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97GiM2f056221; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:44:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l97GiMuZ056218; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:44:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:44:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin In-Reply-To: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071007184342.J56211@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:44:33 -0000 > Hi all, > i am maybe new to BSD. I had setup my DELL server 2900 to run freeBSD > 7.0server but i have seen a message that ignored my 4GB of my memory > in my > server. Can somebody tell me what is happening and give me some idea so > that i can maximize my memory usage. My total memory is 8GB. > use freebsd/amd64 on 64-bit CPU, or use PAE if it's 32-bit CPU. and read archives - such questions were asked MANY times From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:16:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68D016A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4162B13C459 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97HGhBr056464; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:16:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l97HGh2G056461; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:16:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:16:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20071007145657.GB84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20071007191620.D56454@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <139c9dc70710070709m5b20ad53gd4e8532340b903cb@mail.gmail.com> <20071007145657.GB84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-395872623-1191777403=:56454" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, TAJUL AZHAR Mohd Tajul Ariffin Subject: Re: Memory ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:16:56 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-395872623-1191777403=:56454 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > - use the PAE extension (but see §8.4.1 in the FreeBSD Handbook) . the inefficient solution. . > - switch to the amd64 architecture. the right solution. --0-395872623-1191777403=:56454-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:25:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A878F16A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from alnrmhc15.comcast.net (alnrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.225.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F73013C459 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from remdog.net (c-67-164-123-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.164.123.46]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20071007172553b1500hufuhe>; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:25:53 +0000 Received: by bsd.remdog.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 206E61CEB3; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:26:17 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD List Message-ID: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:25:54 -0000 Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:47:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6716A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-77.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-77.bluehost.com [69.89.22.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF4E213C43E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 25103 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2007 17:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 17:47:55 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IeaEM-0000ji-Fo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:47:54 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l96K7WKb062241 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:07:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l96K7V4Q062240 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:07:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:07:31 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071006200731.GA62216@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:47:56 -0000 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:26:17AM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube > videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? The gnash port reportedly works pretty well. The linux-flashplugin port with nspluginwrapper worked really well for me for a while -- then just randomly broke. If you're not picky about watching them *in* the browser, you can always just install the youtube_dl port, then use the youtube-dl script to download YouTube videos to watch them in MPlayer. There's a plugin for Firefox that allows you to use MPlayer within the browser. I haven't checked yet on whether that works for viewing YouTube videos. Last I checked, the linuxpluginwrapper didn't work worth a damn for Flash support in Firefox. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] John W. Russell: "People point. Sometimes that's just easier. They also use words. Sometimes that's just easier. For the same reasons that pointing has not made words obsolete, there will always be command lines." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:48:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F4E16A468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4556A13C48E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from c83-249-37-37.bredband.comhem.se ([83.249.37.37]:53624) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1IeaF1-0006qE-8j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:48:38 +0200 From: Peo Nilsson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/6xdSlOZn6MdKIL8w8H+" Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:52:36 +0200 Message-Id: <1191779556.2960.8.camel@zeus.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Originating-IP: 83.249.37.37 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1IeaF1-0006qE-8j. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1IeaF1-0006qE-8j 1b7e62c235fa23500426f8e66e76e3ed Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:48:39 -0000 --=-/6xdSlOZn6MdKIL8w8H+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 10:26 -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube > videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? >=20 > Rem Snap from the FreeBSD handbook: (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers= .html) ... Install the www/linuxpluginwrapper port. This port requires emulators/linux_base which is a large port. Follow the instructions displayed by the port to set up your /etc/libmap.conf correctly! Example configurations are installed into /usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/ directory. The next step is to install the www/linux-flashplugin7 port. Once the plugin is installed, start your browser, enter about:plugins in the location bar and press Enter. A list should appear with all the currently available plugins. If the Flash plugin is not listed, this is, most of time, caused by a missing symlink. As root, run the following commands: # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so \ /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/flashplayer.xpt \ /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ If you restart your browser the plugin should now appears in the previously mentioned list. Note: The linuxpluginwrapper only works on the i386=99 system architecture. ... You can also try out GNUs flashplayer wich you can install from the ports collection. /usr/ports/graphics/gnash You can read about it here: (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/) I myself run gnash for the moment. It's in Alpha version so it's far from perfect, but I'm sure it will evolve in a good way and I don't have to emulate linux.=20 --=20 /Peo --=-/6xdSlOZn6MdKIL8w8H+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHCRzfgWSfflYlIbwRAvCBAJ9QWh243BKIcgerpyIhE7RMNFMTnQCfe1/F P0NbpGEV9w3BotfIvS/6owM= =F3AE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/6xdSlOZn6MdKIL8w8H+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:50:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418A716A4F6 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44D13C536 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97HoXvh025665 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:50:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AB8E0B869; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:50:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:50:33 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: FreeBSD List Message-ID: <20071007175033.GA90643@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD List References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:50:42 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:26:17AM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube > videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? Not with firefox, but I use www/youtube_dl and multimedia/mplayer. You can also try graphics/gnash, which can work as a firefox plugin, but it's still in alpha.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHCRxpEnfvsMMhpyURAgIPAJwLYd94tXP7NoJMD5yY7q5NXCL+ewCfSrkS JIFHb1YrVMW5g6wavwi0VYs= =gXbL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:53:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F77D16A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.de [194.25.134.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024BC13C46A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IeaK1-0004kh-04; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:53:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (XV+pX2Z1YtnMAVMmFI6QunGvIUCFmjnlBn0bnuiNQ1HT6heR7WTBqxxRJGiy9IcKexUKQAnTLu@[84.165.81.71]) by fwd30.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IeaJt-02Mq7E0; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:53:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:53:37 +0200 From: Oliver Herold To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071007175337.GA28618@olymp.home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-ID: XV+pX2Z1YtnMAVMmFI6QunGvIUCFmjnlBn0bnuiNQ1HT6heR7WTBqxxRJGiy9IcKexUKQAnTLu X-TOI-MSGID: 0cb0b83d-f44a-44c9-8414-f4ea1fb29793 Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:53:48 -0000 Hi just install Gnash, it doesn't play all of the Flash content, but it will play all of the Youtube videos. Cheers, Oliver On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:26:17AM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube > videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? > > Rem > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #21 A: Dr. Livingston I. Presume. Q: What's Dr. Presume's full name? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 17:55:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A99B16A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A5B13C4A5 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11C6DCC67; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:54:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:54:57 +0200 From: cpghost To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20071007195457.5fa86514@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20071007150830.GC84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20071006163312.GB61195@demeter.hydra> <20071007150830.GC84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: James Jeffery , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:55:02 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:08:30 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > My preference for doing things is; > > 1) Can it be done with a shell-script? (esp. one-time hacks) > 2) Else use Perl, Octave, Ruby, but > 3) If speed is key, use C. :-) Yup, exactly. In Python, that's what extension modules in C and C++ are for (ditto for Perl, Ruby, ...). You gain raw speed for CPU bottlenecks, though that's just a nice side effect. More importantly, you can tap into existing C/C++ libraries by wrapping their interfaces into nice extension modules. And if you're too lazy do do the wrapping against Python, Ruby, Perl... APIs yourself, just use something like SWIG. It works like a charm. :) Anyway, having a working knowledge of C and C++ is always a very good idea! Go for it! It'll pay off, whatever your main programming language. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 18:07:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C254916A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6554513C468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2066667pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6mD2jH+Eln7lZr27lpuhg7jrsNFpoPpuqEfJmxi9vjk=; b=EgFhdbEf2bcMKVazhFN30J+FTQOSRNMAfLy8WcuZ28kBGTCVCClouiaspzYhNU5IzyxuussIZj73KoPxx3u1lkTNYVWk/gb2D4pzDIjX4YmDhW1bWpjUQAabiDP9vPDoHRXUreNKnQV9pW4DK5u8Fp+nPVvxt4ezTgDCCH0ij8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Vkpp+cA2pAqGrtw4kDv3zUY8FBWT13vhWFBrsQeKsukrcUoPUCVt0b5oDVLjPszSz0Oa4KZTnRhg9eAV1zosdAo37udntzLNOR/V0568mPX/oh7xLwFqKp+uMeZCGagq0Dt95cn22WYlKcJDJuGErkIAnLq+XCgtlqcN82tp39A= Received: by 10.65.138.4 with SMTP id q4mr22956299qbn.1191780420336; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.210.17 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90710071107g7ce30067k832d97db92afbd1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:07:00 -0500 From: Novembre To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:07:02 -0000 On 10/7/07, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday 07 October 2007 10:00:35 Novembre wrote: > > > On 10/7/07, Doug Barton wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: > > > > The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet > > > > > > loaded. > > > > > > Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel > > > module loaded at boot time and then see what happens next? > > > > Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in > > /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file > > systems are mounted. > > Filesystems that need modules from anywhere else then the root partition > cannot be loaded from /etc/fstab. > Either make fusefs-kmod install in /boot/modules > (echo 'KMOD_DIR=/boot/modules' > >/usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile.local) or mount the filesystem > using an rc(8) script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. > In the end you do not really care whether it's mounted 20 seconds or 1 > second > before login prompt is available. > > -- > Mel > Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you can see from http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile in revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)? Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the 'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition? ---------- [user@pasargadae ~]$ dmesg -a ... Starting fusefs. fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 ... Mounting late file systems: fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory ---------- This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that ntfs-3g has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition (but I don't see it mounted)! ---------- [user@pasargadae ~]$ cat /var/log/messages ... Oct 6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913 Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write, label "", NTFS 3.0) Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null) Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options: noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1 ... ---------- And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that? And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time. However, this also does not work! ---------- #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: ntfsmount # REQUIRE: fusefs # . /etc/rc.subr name="ntfsmount" rcvar=${name}_enable command="/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g" command_args="/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8" load_rc_config $name : ${ntfsmount_enable="NO"} run_rc_command "$1" ---------- I have made this script executable and have put ' ntfsmount_enable="YES" ' in my /etc/rc.conf. So basically, I'm out of ideas now, and I need the experts' help in this case. I think this problem is way above my current knowledge of FreeBSD. Thanks for your help :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 18:42:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E0016A46B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net (rwcrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.192.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3453C13C494 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from remdog.net (c-67-164-123-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.164.123.46]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20071007184227m1500ic5due>; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:42:27 +0000 Received: by bsd.remdog.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 758CA1CEB3; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:42:51 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071007184251.GB46620@remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> <20071007175337.GA28618@olymp.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071007175337.GA28618@olymp.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:42:28 -0000 Thanks to all. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 19:15:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4CD16A47C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354E713C4BA for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53871CDEE for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:14:58 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:14:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <3b47caa90710071107g7ce30067k832d97db92afbd1c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90710071107g7ce30067k832d97db92afbd1c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710072114.57168.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:15:02 -0000 On Sunday 07 October 2007 20:07:00 Novembre wrote: > On 10/7/07, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday 07 October 2007 10:00:35 Novembre wrote: > > > On 10/7/07, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: > > > > > The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet > > > > > > > > loaded. > > > > > > > > Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel > > > > module loaded at boot time and then see what happens next? > > > > > > Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in > > > /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file > > > systems are mounted. > > > > Filesystems that need modules from anywhere else then the root partition > > cannot be loaded from /etc/fstab. > > Either make fusefs-kmod install in /boot/modules > > (echo 'KMOD_DIR=/boot/modules' > > > > >/usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile.local) or mount the filesystem > > > > using an rc(8) script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. > > In the end you do not really care whether it's mounted 20 seconds or 1 > > second > > before login prompt is available. > > > > -- > > Mel > > Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a > couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it > (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it > later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you > can see from > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile > in revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using > /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now > it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use > /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of > fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)? The only way I can see that working is if /usr/local/modules in kern.modules_path /before/ mount -a is executed by /etc/rc.d/mount. Which means there should be a line: kern.module_path=/boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/usr/local/modules in /etc/sysctl.conf on your machine. Also, mount_ntfs-3g should be able to load the module dynamically. > Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the > 'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition? > ---------- > [user@pasargadae ~]$ dmesg -a > ... > Starting fusefs. > fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > ... > Mounting late file systems: > fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory > ---------- What does ls -l /sbin/mount_ntfs-3g say? > This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that > ntfs-3g has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition > (but I don't see it mounted)! > ---------- > [user@pasargadae ~]$ cat /var/log/messages > ... > Oct 6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from > ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version > 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913 > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write, > label "", NTFS 3.0) > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null) > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options: > noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1 > ... > ---------- > > And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate > more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using > /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that? > > And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use > /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time. > However, this also does not work! > ---------- > #!/bin/sh > # > # PROVIDE: ntfsmount > # REQUIRE: fusefs > # > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="ntfsmount" > rcvar=${name}_enable > command="/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g" > command_args="/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8" Does /mnt/windows exist? Anything interesting with `sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntfsmount' ? If I find some more time, I'll play around with it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 19:28:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B86016A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270ED13C447 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so492279rvb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:28:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fNUzkEjb60XfKiMqpLQYm3IBwkzYEwOQigSavFKyw6A=; b=Nf8vZyubIiJtsqHQOcabH3R+0LDUyxehSxUa1dUVdKV4k0B+3XeI5H39gfW78HEL3jEl2Y29bhoJUMWroCvzW+Ur/J3QjrmSKFC/V5rCH6xFpiuOgDUSL4PadEzuo8rLFMetFORFma9LukKZE6uXosRZlKmtfn3dufj6fS8FbpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gBo58xSv2fAagoFF3yaaD6nBFqI3p9GKNl9Nf5hOAXkVScClTA2AvhOerk2C2oypiFSc0raukEoZa1hyFql7qMKeXXu/emMRi3w5j6UaFKMGjLKS8pFAQ4IrgW6NxpGdJj9tysw/nIdoqyj5OhdYtkHI08ONvxJa6BrsZT6Zbk0= Received: by 10.114.77.1 with SMTP id z1mr13741511waa.1191785313377; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.27.4 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1bd550a00710071228q3677fae2m929197d6bc5dc63d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:28:32 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: "Philip M. Gollucci" In-Reply-To: <4706566F.5070705@ridecharge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00710010127v648371c8r1978cd085f8aa6b@mail.gmail.com> <20071004120548.H80813@mail.lunaticcafe.us> <47051410.3000305@ridecharge.com> <1bd550a00710040932w21580fecx74845c9da9cb6388@mail.gmail.com> <1bd550a00710041005y349c324n570a6c22471d135d@mail.gmail.com> <47054C90.8000500@daleco.biz> <1bd550a00710050004p7a87c2eak9bc1b5a4ce61f3c0@mail.gmail.com> <4706566F.5070705@ridecharge.com> Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , George Fazio , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Problems with www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:28:34 -0000 On 10/5/07, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > > It could be. Does it means that my ISP is responsible for this? Should > > I contact them? > No -- actually over on current@ lies the answer. > http://blogs.freebsdish.org/simon/2007/09/18/web-server-fun/ Ok, mistery solved. Thanks > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) c:323.219.4708 o:703.749.9295x= 206 > Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. > http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com > 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF > > Work like you don't need the money, > love like you'll never get hurt, > and dance like nobody's watching. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 19:44:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B887016A421 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304D013C46E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l97JiltO074699; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l97Jikp1074698; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:44:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:44:46 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:44:46 -0000 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 11:12:00AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > there are basically two types of UPS' around: online and stand-by or fly-by. > > The online version is much more expensive but also much better in > critical conditions. > > Gary Kline wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > Recently, a storm happened and the power surge blew me > > off-line. Time to get serious about buying a UPS that will > > handle my four main servers for at-most, a 10-second power > > You have the choice between four individual boxes or one big box. > > Cases like this let the online version shine. Stand-by versions fail > pretty often especially if you have a neighbour around running big > engines powered directly from the power lines. > > Even big air-cons can cause the problems. > > > Linux} computer? Is there a UPS that is designed for heavy use > > and a very short (5- to 10-second) uptime? I'll need one that can > > I do not think that it is a good advice to go for 10 second uptime. Take > a rating fitting your machines (400W power rating for the machine, 600VA > for the UPS) with at least 10 minutes uptime. > > APC supplies you with both types of UPS. > > All APC I have seen failing were of the fly-by type, all other were the > online version. I think, it will be the same for any other brand. > > But do not drop dead when you see the price difference. This will be > money well spend. > First, thank to both you and Bart for your cmments. You were *right* about the price. Can I assume that a ballpark would be 400W for each server? (My wife is right: I've got to cut back to three computers:-) I've found one APC 2200VA with a 17minute uptime. 3 times 400W, yes? The first thing is to be sure of getting large enough UPS to bridge the few-seconds power outtages or fraction/section surges. So I need help there. Another question or two can wait. thanks for any further clues! gary > Erich -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 20:21:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB08816A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D3913C478 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA258470 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:21:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:21:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 55073 invoked by uid 88); 7 Oct 2007 22:21:44 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO weld.ej2.thelosingend.net) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:21:44 +0200 Message-ID: <47093F63.6000008@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:19:47 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070923) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Halid Faith References: <001101c8079b$f0be7c80$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <001101c8079b$f0be7c80$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am looking for a bandwidth limiter tool as to time and kilobytes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:21:47 -0000 Halid Faith wrote: > Hello > > I use dummynet to limit bandwidth on freebsd6.2. > > But I don't know how I limit an ip blocks as to time ( for instance like 1 Gbyte in 1 month ). > > I am looking for a tool which provides to limit bytes according to time. > > is there any free tool for this case? > > Thanks already I used to live at a campus dorm where you would get 10 Gbit outbound traffic per 24h. If you used more than that, they would cut your access for 48h for the first violation, then for a week on the next violation. You would get no warning. Although this often was more than enough, I guarded myself, by monitoring my network usage. After 8 Gbit outbound traffic, I would throttle my bandwidth to say 1 Mbps, and when hitting 9 GBit, to say 100 kbps, and so on. (Actually this was more granulated, with some traffic cut off earlier than some higher prioritized traffic) I used some ipfw counters, and a cron job to parse the output of ipfw show. Then I would enable some dummynet rules accordingly. This was some years ago under 4.8, I think. Now, I think pf has better support for this kinds of setup. Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 20:48:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5789616A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-86-235-79.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.235.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50BF913C468 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 41453 invoked by uid 98); 7 Oct 2007 21:20:53 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.20 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.20):. Processed in 5.909915 secs); 07 Oct 2007 20:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kingfish.lerwick.hopto.org) (192.168.0.20) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 21:20:46 +0100 Message-ID: <47093F4B.70300@lerwick.hopto.org> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:19:23 +0100 From: Craig Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070615) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Novembre References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <3b47caa90710071107g7ce30067k832d97db92afbd1c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90710071107g7ce30067k832d97db92afbd1c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , Mel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:48:14 -0000 Novembre wrote: > On 10/7/07, Mel wrote: > >> On Sunday 07 October 2007 10:00:35 Novembre wrote: >> >> >>> On 10/7/07, Doug Barton wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: >>>> >>>>> The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet >>>>> >>>> loaded. >>>> >>>> Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel >>>> module loaded at boot time and then see what happens next? >>>> >>> Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in >>> /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file >>> systems are mounted. >>> >> Filesystems that need modules from anywhere else then the root partition >> cannot be loaded from /etc/fstab. >> Either make fusefs-kmod install in /boot/modules >> (echo 'KMOD_DIR=/boot/modules' >> >>> /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile.local) or mount the filesystem >>> >> using an rc(8) script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. >> In the end you do not really care whether it's mounted 20 seconds or 1 >> second >> before login prompt is available. >> >> -- >> Mel >> >> > > > > Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a > couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it > (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it > later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you > can see from > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile in > revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using > /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now > it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use > /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of > fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)? > > Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the > 'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition? > ---------- > [user@pasargadae ~]$ dmesg -a > ... > Starting fusefs. > fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > ... > Mounting late file systems: > fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory > ---------- > > This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that ntfs-3g > has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition (but I > don't see it mounted)! > ---------- > [user@pasargadae ~]$ cat /var/log/messages > ... > Oct 6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI > 7.8 > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913 > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write, > label "", NTFS 3.0) > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null) > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options: > noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1 > ... > ---------- > > And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate > more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using > /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that? > > And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use > /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time. > However, this also does not work! > ---------- > #!/bin/sh > # > # PROVIDE: ntfsmount > # REQUIRE: fusefs > # > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="ntfsmount" > rcvar=${name}_enable > command="/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g" > command_args="/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8" > > load_rc_config $name > > : ${ntfsmount_enable="NO"} > > run_rc_command "$1" > ---------- > I have made this script executable and have put ' ntfsmount_enable="YES" ' > in my /etc/rc.conf. So basically, I'm out of ideas now, and I need the > experts' help in this case. I think this problem is way above my current > knowledge of FreeBSD. > > Thanks for your help :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Wow thats a lot of work..... one liner in /etc/rc.local /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8 & Job Done :p ============================================================ This email has been handled by lerwick.hopto.org mail server and has been scanned by 3 virus killers and spamassassin ============================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 20:48:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9228A16A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05EA13C4AA for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l97KmZ41075127; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l97KmZAJ075126; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:48:34 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20071007204834.GB69551@thought.org> References: <009c01c80810$169e4830$6501a8c0@GRANT> <4707A770.9060804@u.washington.edu> <20071007021558.GB67456@thought.org> <008201c808d8$dfd697c0$6501a8c0@GRANT> <4708ECC9.8070107@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4708ECC9.8070107@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Grant Peel , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server Reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:48:36 -0000 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 07:27:21AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Grant Peel wrote: > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > *From:* Gary Kline > > *To:* Garrett Cooper > > *Cc:* Grant Peel ; FreeBSD Mailing > > List > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:15 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Server Reboot > > [[ ... ]] > > > > Gary, > > Depending on the webpages, amount of memory in use, and other > things, firefox did have a tendency to crash from time to time when I > used it. Most of the time it was an indication of bugs created by > over-optimized binaries or rogue plugins / add-ons / extensions. > > conftest is run by autoconf, and a signal should only be 'thrown' Same here. No clue on the aborts or the SIGSYS. That's because I don't watch my portupgrades. It looks like it's time to run ``script'' and capture stuff. > (IIRC) if a test fails. > > Not sure about the signal 6 (SIGABRT) and other segfault stuff though.. > > About the X11 comment.. actually a system that's heavier loaded than > a lighter loaded system will exhibit more issues if any exist. So the > more you run (at one time), the more problems you will see (possibly...). I'm pretty sure that firefo and most everything build without -O3. I'll double-ck. Anyway, if binaries crash, it should't cause the server to power-cycle. If it *is* heat, maybe we can use a fan from one of my junk Kayaks... . > > Grant, > > I'd check your thermal stuff then (both on your drives and your > case). What might be happening is that the machine is heating up after > extended periods of intense computation or disk use, then it reaches the > threshold operating temperature, and reboots. > Garrett, I'm thinking same thing with my Dell. It's crammed in there and may need more space to draw in fresh air. ...Live 'n' learn, hopefully! gary > HTH, > -Garrett -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 21:40:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775916A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E124E13C480 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l97LepMx075446 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l97LeoNb075445 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:40:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071007214050.GA75418@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: hard drive testing... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:40:50 -0000 Last question for today. Well, hopefullly. Is bonnie++ the only meeans of testing a hard drive? I thought thre was something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more thoroughly. This had been "awhile ago"... maybe ~5 years. thanks, people, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 21:49:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53B216A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com (mailout11.sul.t-online.de [194.25.134.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D78713C465 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Iee0A-0004D8-02; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:49:30 +0200 Received: from localhost (GQFa+gZl8teBtvs48nQVam+Gv2zcFcM3uJfB47ujAUMV2lASAUuY+QL1eskN5XzAa-7VN7y908@[84.165.100.147]) by fwd28.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Iedzy-0jtn8q0; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:49:18 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:49:18 +0200 From: Oliver Herold To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071007214918.GA31219@olymp.home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071007214050.GA75418@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071007214050.GA75418@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-ID: GQFa+gZl8teBtvs48nQVam+Gv2zcFcM3uJfB47ujAUMV2lASAUuY+QL1eskN5XzAa-7VN7y908 X-TOI-MSGID: 280ae938-7946-4b04-8976-ab121df93c4b Subject: Re: hard drive testing... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:49:32 -0000 Bonnie++ is a benchmark, to actually 'test' your harddrive you should use some tool of the manufacturer. Cheers, Oliver On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 02:40:50PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Last question for today. Well, hopefullly. Is bonnie++ > the only meeans of testing a hard drive? I thought thre was > something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more > thoroughly. > This had been "awhile ago"... maybe ~5 years. > > thanks, people, > > gary > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Destiny is a good thing to accept when it's going your way. When it isn't, don't call it destiny; call it injustice, treachery, or simple bad luck. -- Joseph Heller, "God Knows" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:16:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0863616A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C1E13C458 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l97MGPva064658; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:16:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l97MGPnW064655; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:16:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:16:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <47093F63.6000008@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Message-ID: <20071008001610.H64648@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <001101c8079b$f0be7c80$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <47093F63.6000008@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Halid Faith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am looking for a bandwidth limiter tool as to time and kilobytes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:16:31 -0000 > > > I used to live at a campus dorm where you would get 10 Gbit outbound > traffic per 24h. If you used more than that, they would cut your just 2 CD's. not that much From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:34:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A929F16A418 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny-mail-01+f.questions20071007@palaceofretention.ca) Received: from www.giovannetti.ca (www.giovannetti.ca [206.248.136.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD7D13C447 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny-mail-01+f.questions20071007@palaceofretention.ca) Received: from the.palaceofretention.ca (intgateway.palaceofretention.ca [10.10.10.42]) by www.giovannetti.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F5D11460 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <47095A0E.6030506@palaceofretention.ca> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:13:34 -0400 From: Vinny User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Jails and freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:34:33 -0000 Hi All, I'm setting up a server for mail and web. I want to put each in their own jail on a host system. I have installed 6.2-Release on the host and successfully used freebsd-update to grab up to -p8. So far so good. Now, I was going to install the jails using the standard way (man jail): JAIL=/path/to/jail cd /usr/src mkdir -p $JAIL make world DESTDIR=$JAIL make distribution DESTDIR=$JAIL and so forth. But then it occurred to me that freebsd-update says it only works on installations that haven't been built from source. My question then is how can I use freebsd-update with jails? Thanks for any help. Vinny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:52:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EB616A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from signal.itea.ntnu.no (signal.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2902E13C43E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373D733664 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 11157 invoked by uid 88); 8 Oct 2007 00:52:03 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO weld.ej2.thelosingend.net) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:52:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4709629E.1060405@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:50:06 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070923) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <001101c8079b$f0be7c80$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <47093F63.6000008@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20071008001610.H64648@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071008001610.H64648@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: Halid Faith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am looking for a bandwidth limiter tool as to time and kilobytes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:52:06 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> I used to live at a campus dorm where you would get 10 Gbit outbound >> traffic per 24h. If you used more than that, they would cut your > just 2 CD's. not that much My bad: this was gigabytes. Also, it was just the outbound traffic that was limited, not the download. (They tried to limit the use of p2p) Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:03:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8437216A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason@infinitebubble.com) Received: from mail.infinitebubble.com (pia140-70.pioneernet.net [66.114.140.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5656913C457 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason@infinitebubble.com) Received: from localhost (thor.infinitebubble.com [10.10.1.1]) by mail.infinitebubble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612109650E for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:46:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at infinitebubble.com Received: from mail.infinitebubble.com ([10.10.1.3]) by localhost (thor.infinitebubble.com [10.10.1.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 400oAXdov1+7 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buri.infinitebubble.com (buri.infinitebubble.com [192.168.1.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.infinitebubble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F70A9591F for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <470963C6.5020603@infinitebubble.com> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:55:02 -0700 From: Jason Taylor User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070815) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD List References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> <20071007175033.GA90643@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071007175033.GA90643@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:03:16 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:26:17AM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube >> videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? >> > > Not with firefox, but I use www/youtube_dl and multimedia/mplayer. > > You can also try graphics/gnash, which can work as a firefox plugin, but > it's still in alpha. > > Roland > The Greasemonkey plugin + http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/11764 + mplayer plugin is working for me for viewing YouTube within the browser. -- Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:29:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E306D16A41B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from l2mail1.panix.com (l2mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A0513C44B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBE65CFB1 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7667629415 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-198-188.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.198.188]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832EC2BAAA0 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IefG0-0007z2-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:09:56 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:56 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20071007230956.GA30647@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 19:09:11 up 219 days, 19:36, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Marvel NFE driver in 6 CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:29:58 -0000 I'm building a new machine which (I beleive) needs the NFE driver fr the onboard NIC's. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:42:09 -0000 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 11:01:41AM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On Saturday 06 October 2007, Joe Altman wrote: > > chthonic.com/crash-crash-crash > > Hi, > > Do you have "options KDB" in your kernel config file ? Following your suggestion, I did try this; and there was no change from kernel panic and reboot. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-options.html > > You should get a prompt when it panics. There was no prompt. > Then you type in "bt" for backtrace. > Maybe you could take a picture of that. Personally, it's a bit embarassing to be so helpless that I am forced to take a picture. I suppose if I could be certain about how to compile bootblocks, I might be able to do something on the serial console with a laptop. But the one time I attempted that was a disaster. Is my speculation about the "...no dump device found..." correct? Is it that swapon and multiuser has not occurred, and so there can occur no dump to the swap space? > Probably someone is accessing a NULL pointer. If any more damage occurs, ISTM that my entire installation will be accessing a NULL pointer; the following message is from the most recent dmesg, and is new: warning: KLD '/boot/kernel.old.bootable/drm.ko' is newer than the linker.hints file Since my hardware appears to not work with the available source, who knows how that will go? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:46:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FDA16A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE32213C448 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from [82.70.166.86] (helo=[192.168.0.200]) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IefpW-0002YE-BQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:46:38 +0000 Message-ID: <47096FD7.4000309@rowyerboat.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:46:31 +0100 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.70.166.86] Subject: /var/log/messages filling up with DHCPDISCOVER messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:46:40 -0000 /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf is configured with "log-facility local7;" and /etc/syslog.conf is also configured with "local7.* /var/log/dhcpd.log" However, /var/log/messages is filling up with "DHCPDISCOVER / no free leases" messages for those clients that are unknown to the DHCP server (eg. on a different subnet). I suspect that these messages are being caught by "*.notice" which is why they end up in /var/log/messages. Is there a way to prevent this happening? Many thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:54:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA2C16A419 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B1013C448 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from [82.70.166.86] (helo=[192.168.0.200]) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IefxI-0000nc-SE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:54:41 +0000 Message-ID: <470971BC.5070505@rowyerboat.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:54:36 +0100 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.70.166.86] Subject: Which java binary to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:54:42 -0000 I installed the Diablo java packages (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but "which java" shows "/usr/local/bin/java" which is a link to javavm in the same directory. I wondered about changing the link to point to one of these: /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/bin/java /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/bin/java /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/bin/java Should I change the link, and which one of these should it point to... the JRE? Many thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:57:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EA716A41A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8702013C455 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 18955 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 23:57:24 -0000 Received: from bb121-7-21-50.singnet.com.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@121.7.21.50) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 7 Oct 2007 23:57:23 -0000 Message-ID: <47097259.2010407@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:57:13 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:57:27 -0000 Hi, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 11:12:00AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > *right* about the price. Can I assume that a ballpark would be > 400W for each server? (My wife is right: I've got to cut back to > three computers:-) I've found one APC 2200VA with a 17minute > uptime. 3 times 400W, yes? > there are other factors which affect this. It is the current peak when a PC starts and the phase shift it causes. The phase shift should not be a problem but the peak. I would not bother as long as you do not switch the computers on in parallel. > The first thing is to be sure of getting large enough UPS to > bridge the few-seconds power outtages or fraction/section surges. If they define 17 minutes, this device will be good for you. Just get the online version to avoid surprises later. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:32:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8081416A41A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3457E13C45A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2206435pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TUxlnsaZUoYyYPDgrBCBfOHp30hOH0xWHFEbnANYmrU=; b=azszbbNce4M1BGosE+GBM5a2JclK2ccMH07ETiTE933aeEKuyHSFhgBVTeHlK3D9S8ktJ9JgRL2Rsg+j+pvpkp7VpuC9LKDaSbVCksZ8R0WA56yQs3C4TCE7qh4qevgN2LFICQehHvEg7mXh0H9aY9zF8U7S82KcWilpVIM3Cn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dv5f9cHIMso2ir+tFC0RZxAVUPGlWNeqp1z1vCHxo2387iPaOjcvdDzoqyOpQbHVudA5bCux96yQxDrg0jyla2TQtvdm4rst5mVHri0XqZi6WtMRkIwg3XV+t0sTaxAz8hFXBLpp/2d/L/6OfKsje4IrdMSP6yiemPDrCvcDdbc= Received: by 10.65.155.19 with SMTP id h19mr4031380qbo.1191803531160; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.105.2 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:32:11 +0000 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "Stephen Allen" In-Reply-To: <470971BC.5070505@rowyerboat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <470971BC.5070505@rowyerboat.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Which java binary to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:32:12 -0000 On 10/7/07, Stephen Allen wrote: > I installed the Diablo java packages > (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but "which > java" shows "/usr/local/bin/java" which is a link to javavm in the same > directory. > > I wondered about changing the link to point to one of these: > > /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/bin/java > /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/bin/java > /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/bin/java > > Should I change the link, and which one of these should it point to... > the JRE? No because javavm will automatically detect the most appropriate one... also all three above are linked to /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/bin/java I think... now a side issue is under some configurations diablo doesn't work for any gui app (non-www based) so you may want to update to jdk-16 or linux-sun-jdk16 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:51:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77C016A418 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from williamkow@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp128.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp128.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.95.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CAC13C45A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from williamkow@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3066 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2007 00:51:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jtbtAa+660HwHmF9/gvS8VbDb/VV/I/0Jllrw38e3ju6+DlzNlz2U+bMIENvaSCaO91hnWikpzBF+Ed6G3k5CyJrWNl1Q2PlvdPu3BUpBY8pBBsbZPmF1aaFAA8XWihw/AYgjgAh9A3XgAbFGTHnXzmXsX6vYSgXRy4dyZKm0aU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.32.131.76?) (williamkow@203.92.154.37 with plain) by smtp128.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2007 00:51:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EAp_OoMVM1nlUVIy9l4Vfh9ESKSh_NjjI_QfNKHT9oAG0BSUsdS4Cs6ykNnfwceljQ0O2g4yjC3gKbnHVWD24OIeF9lcNqrapHELMZ0hxw3xrDX4fc0WMbNehIfm Message-ID: <47097F04.5030906@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:51:16 +0800 From: williamkow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) To: Roland Smith References: <4708D990.7020809@yahoo.com> <20071007140316.GA84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071007140316.GA84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse/TrackMan Wheel from Logitech X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:51:51 -0000 Dear Mr. Roland, Tahnk you for your reply, may I ask if I to purchase TrackMan Wheel Mouse (Logitech), does it also work and compatible in FreeBSD? Please advise, Thank you. [1]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/ 166&cl=my,en WilliamKow ______________________________________________________________________ ________ Roland Smith wrote: On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 09:05:20PM +0800, williamkow wrote: Can anyboby advice me whether the Marble_Mouse from Logitech, be used and recognized by FreeBSD6.2-Release ? I've used this trackball without problems with Xorg. Here's the relevant part of my xorg.conf; Section "InputDevice" Identifier "MarbleMouse" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "ButtonMapping" "3 2 1 6 7" Option "CorePointer" "on" EndSection Note that this is for a left-handed person. For right-handed use, you need to swap 3 and 1 in the ButtonMapping, IIRC. Note that I _don't_ use moused(8). Roland References 1. http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/166&cl=my,en From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:58:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A7D16A418 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0807513C467 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l980wWrY077403 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l980wWIL077402 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:58:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071008005832.GA77336@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: system stats tool(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:58:32 -0000 Can anyone of you system admin wizards suggest a better way of using simple X tools like xsysstats? I would like to keep aware of as much info graphically as reasonable with the available utilities we've got. As simply as possible. I try to leave my ns1.thought.org server alone, so I rarely login (or KVM-button) there. I'd be grateful for anyone sharing his args to xsysstats; or script; or any other means. Here is what I've just fired off on tao|tao2: [5063] xsysstats -type disk -type cpu -type context -type load5 -geometry 150x75 thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:58:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946DD16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.200.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5897413C447 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from remdog.net (c-67-164-123-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.164.123.46]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with ESMTP id <2007100800584301500fkpq4e>; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:58:43 +0000 Received: by bsd.remdog.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA3E21CEEB; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:59:09 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD List Message-ID: <20071008005909.GA1279@remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:58:44 -0000 Well, I installed gnash, and I have sound and some picture, but I might as well not have. Sound is pretty distorted, and the picture stream seems like it is coming through one frame at a time. Back to the drawing board. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 02:08:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B0D16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59E13C459 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal (svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal [10.0.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l981qGN5061093; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:52:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 2, 1, 3252) id ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:52:15 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:52:03 +1000 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F137C152@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: minimal install is too big Thread-Index: AcgHKWqZ/8rQ0UqERBmaOQVRkKc18gCI+ZRQ From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Dmitry Gorbik" , "Tim Judd" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: minimal install is too big X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:08:02 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Dmitry Gorbik > Sent: Friday, 5 October 2007 6:25 PM > To: Tim Judd > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: minimal install is too big >=20 > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:11:14 -0700 (PDT) > Tim Judd wrote: >=20 > > Hi all, > >=20 > > Recently, for pure entertainment and a little bit of a experience > > thing, I have been looking and/or finding many devices that=20 > have linux > > embedded. While in of itself the fact that it works, I'm not > > discounting. But I'd like to expand it or get it running=20 > on a system > > that I am familiar with. So I was playing with the idea of using > > FreeBSD on such devices, and I would deal with the=20 > individual hardware > > specs if I could get the general system small enough. > >=20 > > The minimal install of FreeBSD as from the developers is=20 > about 130MB.=20 > > I want to get something working on a 8MB flash. (For those curious, > > it's a ethernet NAS device) > >=20 > > picobsd is discontinued, nanobsd claims it can fit in 64MB.=20 > I'd even > > go with some NetBSD flavor, as long as it's not "linux." I've done > > some research and would like to see this happen, but may just end up > > using the GPL code from Linksys to get it working as I need it to. > >=20 > > Thanks for any update/idea/clue. > >=20 > > If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door. > > "I can" is a way of life. > > More and Bigger is not always Better. > > The road to success is always uphill. > >=20 >=20 > See livecd Frenzy - http://frenzy.org/ua/eng That is livecd=20 > that uses compressed UFS (GEOM_ugz, if i'm not mistaken).=20 > Maybe something interesting for you? >=20 try these for ideas re small I've used the 4.x version into 22Mb of the 32Mb CF card, but I=20 left in things like vi etc., and added SNMP and GSMModem handling chunks. 4.X https://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html 5.X http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D86 6.X http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D125 YMMV mjt --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses by Bytecraft ### From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 02:10:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB98F16A41B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F351D13C469 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2243760pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=rMhkvp9KzWBB7itt08f1t/Mm21DJdDhuiPc8K8jSqgU=; b=W8F4Nhd8SPTIME4B12rohg99BfyfFgT1kNIG9JRZ52KoBEq+q8wrhDp9hfHchHF7htsr1wHXtDPvL+WZJ+3ipLnDypsvnzjRg/2hJ/N4+9Q9h3dzGnSmWqHbgM77XNSSre4Y1CPtqGnuHowphFIKsfZwZZl/UjIE+8hG/1l0yuo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ncFAjbh9CSksRJLu/A4XNqhdhcMK1HIDjlNCBvEibtbXT6nKoVwzExLMaSAvIuk8F9aqoE8lNd54BwvvHm8HASb2D0TUM6dDatVK55wJINGUR6tB38yeNwALkhQ8g0aW/T/Z69GkbehAH58VFaavuYbhxnBWBbvBKNL2WiH8Tc4= Received: by 10.65.74.9 with SMTP id b9mr21943263qbl.1191809456637; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.105.2 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:10:56 +0000 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:10:58 -0000 I finally got around to compiling abiword and I get the following when I try to run it: > abiword Segmentation fault (core dumped) > uname -a FreeBSD monsert 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Oct 7 20:47:51 UTC 2007 plos@monsert:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 I don't want to bother with attempting to figure out why it broke. My question is since it looks like I am stuck with Tex is there any wyswyg editors for it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 02:18:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502D316A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3312913C461 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 1E9FF3C045A; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:18:04 -0700 From: Christopher Cowart To: Aryeh Friedman Message-ID: <20071008021804.GW19429@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5YYVglCS/eEjGrzH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:18:04 -0000 --5YYVglCS/eEjGrzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:10:56AM +0000, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I finally got around to compiling abiword and I get the following when > I try to run it: >=20 > > abiword > Segmentation fault (core dumped) >=20 > > uname -a > FreeBSD monsert 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Oct 7 > 20:47:51 UTC 2007 plos@monsert:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 >=20 > I don't want to bother with attempting to figure out why it broke. > My question is since it looks like I am stuck with Tex is there any > wyswyg editors for it? I've heard good things about kile (editors/kile), but have never used it on FreeBSD. It's also from the KDE folks, so you might be waiting a long time for all libraries to compile. I must say I'm a fan of just using vim combined with this guide at hand: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf Good luck, --=20 Chris Cowart Lead Systems Administrator Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --5YYVglCS/eEjGrzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBRwmTWyPHEDszU3zYAQJPbw/+LK/g0iTie0hHoBWFcNCHQgJeFHk0kU6d E2vgEFEaVDNY5UMGxY4zQnnw7t6RC++EKThmoR8xTG/kgY5tYIMMkz3vcctl15KO XlUeIfVasl3taU330+UnZi+5sKX9Ah5pfWIBjsdY7NdXnEx8yHrRF44yG4pQDbut 0/u9Qaalui+NOZUdhJLvCV0EoQCXPFojNw7z04LQWmOTmKwCEldpEescrJMw4k66 9Po1FaaW7DzfYMg5Is4bczgwtbPtC7YdMAT2Es5p0//Kz7Paj2jdpR75wuzFx14R ktwDAwJuAQKrQAajMsUPMciHdnZnUT+pVYWim8uPRs6Uvg/ZMSCCfaNzRHbAX5va vjN1yuJcZ5CtM9twTyProjKhpE/nQHkDrO6UCDtOFHvrAqHddxxYFjDf8ff2KW6Y fqhRhlNiWK76O3Ac1iJg4pAjW/Ub7uOQGXpmYlL6Wml6GXYYH666PCU9UuhqUYzi Ji5QomBerNccF5a76cJOm0YQKyyn0EMXtK0CuSJQHpwKL5WqAByVkzNyScoLWtGu mn5o8NH4RZY1ijI9p2zmPTNRTQadfPe6ARSCV70C3Oh6bhzCAkLQvJ68AMJCmHuJ pm3HP/iFIqv6todRvAAhonTW5SdiKhk1cKeeVNrafyQYgRtsWoxkwc6ntlHecI5k RpGG+xyYxKU= =NzM+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5YYVglCS/eEjGrzH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 02:23:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E9E16A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1809013C4B8 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1040808wxd for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Sv0jqMBm9Bof4oFin5/4JVBecHQNIu0wdqDqpDMGIog=; b=IfePQIAztOFFnHIhlIE+erRxl6VE24lspGIHbbV9lRXLjcGwzV3+HU4IOGO07E5nWdD0F4KQmIdjwJe6khRN+hKY68vgFrjMm29wea7hQtra2IqhLFrMXA5byS1Gzy2wbZU6Ja2lYPBYiiHLQaJcZAzXIYFKphMdJHpdFw7kPQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Lgqo9c2B9XNh0u8iUAkR+Tn/HpPUnR1do6TipN993ZXd5YGRyqv+e8+/6GhmKLFvtVy7zN0nPrGi/i9Jch6WbsndT7EGszcV+cA0T5pgboXP9nn4N9kSaoGKjUTlXlipdohYI4WQVihh5oYwvUllnhyGpe/BPXZKcCsfp/x7t9g= Received: by 10.90.92.10 with SMTP id p10mr2912213agb.1191810181437; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.103.15 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38b9f0350710071923w16c75c65lc7820b7f09d07f64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:23:01 +0800 From: ronggui To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: help: the Input problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:23:02 -0000 I use scim as my input. When I use bash as my login shell, I add these lines to ~/.profile export LANG=zh_CN.eucCN export LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN export G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 export G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' scim -d All is fine. But I would like to use tcsh as my login shell, and try to add the followings to ~/.login_conf me:\ :lang=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :charset=gbk:\ :setenv=LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_COLLATE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_MESSAGES=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_TIME=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1:\ :setenv=G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK:\ :setenv=XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM": and add "scim -d" to the ~/.xsession. I can't toggle on the scim. PS: I login in with kdm. What should I do to use tcsh as my login shell? Thanks -- Ronggui Huang Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 03:15:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF9116A41A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liuping.james@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B086713C448 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liuping.james@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so856834nfb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:15:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=G1RAHBcXuyFjKCMWE2EA7TNGOIdznL0dOgmZbDu81vI=; b=ljbwsxsP3bObMqNsxGRPYDkURB9v5n9od7Hs6GNXoo7pGIW7jE/s2jkxFvA/WBv1sUllz5ZKzDNLVICosgRpThVg6w0MNnypT5Yxt3t/gdKOMt3w4YByvSBRuhIaeLOPjtCPmfbJ38ChxXFANnvtxL9pCBQ6+z+hjNEJiNsYTQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=m/NvLQSjyo0K3LMEaxE4/N7L85kI8HCi+O1DjCoRWMjuq5rtnuoBO9NleZUDVDCfL59LF7S4uUcZhQlIoWVy4YEX6vR45/aqZo8z1RlNAQVbJHgCPjjEpmKQIAJJ8vrgpacLjtZ15X8TQhXswgtCm+6v+0Zm7auIE8MRdc1XwyI= Received: by 10.78.183.8 with SMTP id g8mr3746514huf.1191811863138; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.160.15 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5d5204510710071951u66bb3a8bqc1dc3eef0e89b311@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:51:03 +0800 From: "James liu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:15:43 -0000 i use google and no good answer. anyone know it ? freebsd 6.2 release. ssh use ports to setup. -- regards jl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 03:25:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3A816A421 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6726413C45B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IejFt-0001fL-J8 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:26:11 -0700 Received: from 71-220-155-181.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.155.181] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1IejFl-0001ex-FZ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:25:57 -0700 Message-ID: <4709A2D4.4080201@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:24:04 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:25:30 -0000 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I finally got around to compiling abiword and I get the following when > I try to run it: > > >> abiword >> > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > >> uname -a >> > FreeBSD monsert 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Oct 7 > 20:47:51 UTC 2007 plos@monsert:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 > > I don't want to bother with attempting to figure out why it broke. > My question is since it looks like I am stuck with Tex is there any > wyswyg editors for it? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yes there is wyswyg editor for TeX. Look among ports. I do not use one like most long time TeX users as it is useless. Every time you compile the tex file dvi file displayed via xdvi will be automatically updated. You can also configure Emacs so that when you press tex-view it opens automatically xdvi file. Just use Emacs as it is configured for TeXing out of box. You sound like using TeX is a bad thing and so difficult. It is not my 11 year old nice uses for her homeworks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 03:32:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A797916A419 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B02D13C447 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2275452pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:32:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=K4gnV+9F15hiwyUZVbFfl982QZOAy9QuzUGq/L1apGQ=; b=UBfwYaH1B2+lP65+ll64A4MjqAYaAbM5jKdn9mpw2qis80ppS9c16v+j0J6dLsuSevEGU/d14ibQeyXEPqcExZhh/bureBmf7FJuc5haXVjBY31mils/xm9Q1tZWkYKMVoXdT7K1uu3DgvbraON1+oukRZ3U+4RyhwdRqQkF4ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RMThGqPeqvZQsu0sJVzPsS/ltIa7G8ZIiqs0iQuUA4PmnNsgT5LPbWLq1zF5dCIJJ+NVJ+/cX5u7PwedlslTAFzInG/Ogojt99gATLEq2o/0ckywIAUGnpahiRbUrv1jZeAt2IRJ5gcQU/d+MAphMXxfg5mmOFf+F5Cotzi6FhU= Received: by 10.65.240.17 with SMTP id s17mr5989241qbr.1191814347471; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.105.2 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:32:27 +0000 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "Predrag Punosevac" , "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <4709A2D4.4080201@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4709A2D4.4080201@math.arizona.edu> Cc: Subject: Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:32:28 -0000 > Yes there is wyswyg editor for TeX. Look among ports. I do not use one > like most long time TeX users as it is useless. Every time you compile lyx and I like it so far. > You sound like using TeX is a bad thing and so difficult. It is not my > 11 year old nice uses for her homeworks. >From what little experience I have with PS and *roff the idea of hacking inline embedded languages just for typesetting sounds stupid beyond belief.... now that being said since I do need to do the following (I run a small software vendor that also does some basic CS research): * Business communications * Technical writing (manuals) * Scientific writing and since all the more "traditional" (sorry I do not think of any inline text language as being "traditional") word processing crash on my machine (for programming I am very comfortable with nvi and have never seen the need for anything else) that leaves stuff like the embedded text langs, but for most stuff I don't want to have to write a "program" (aka source code) for a "Dear Customer, Your trial period is over" type letter (talk about over kill)... but if I use VI it looks like crap so some type setting is needed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 04:37:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC14B16A419 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EAD13C44B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l984bEj9006399; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Joe Marcus Clarke" , Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:38:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1191217348.97432.0.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Upgrade to imap-uw 2006j Breaks Logins X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:37:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Joe Marcus > Clarke > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:42 PM > To: tundra@tundraware.com > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Upgrade to imap-uw 2006j Breaks Logins > > > On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 23:50 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > As part of a portupgrade, one of my servers just picked up the latest > > version of imap-uw (2006j). Now users can no longer login as imapd > > claims they are providing incorrect passwords. I manually copied the > > version I was using (2004g) to /usr/local/libexec/imapd, and all is > > well, so it is definitely the new release. > > > > I did try manually reinstalling the imap-uw and cclient ports using > > the make option to enable both SSL and plain text passwords. Still > > no joy. > > > > 'Anyone else seeing this/have a workaround? > > Try the fix I just committed. It's now working for me. I don't get it. In the g version, linkage.c only existed for the Mac and tops OS's not unix - why was it loaded under FreeBSD by the old Makefile? Your explanation in the port makes no sense as to why it was removed - I can't understand why it was included in the first place. I'm interested in the issue because a while ago I tried compiling a webmail program under FreeBSD that used the c-client libraries, and I got it built but the program could not authenticate using the c-client libraries. This was using the g version. Was something broken in uw-imap then that they fixed in the j version, which we had hacked around in the g version by including linkage.c? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 04:44:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE1816A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386A913C45D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 17473 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 23:44:00 -0500 Received: from 124-170-228-57.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.228.57) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 7 Oct 2007 23:43:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:43:55 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Rem P Roberti Message-ID: <20071008144355.7bb87d62@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:44:00 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:26:17 -0700 Rem P Roberti wrote: > Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube > videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2? > this was a list of the related components from an email I sent in late July this year - I've since updated several of them ,but it still works just fine. firefox-2.0.0.5,1 javavmwrapper-2.3 diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_6 linux-flashplugin-7.0r69 nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4_2 youtube works fine, except for a slight sound async in some cases, but i don't know if that's due to my cpu , the flash plugin or the wrapper. I dont particularly care really... the flash9 plugin was having some problems when I last tested it. it may have been fixed, i don't know. read the archives for instructions on how to install the plugins (hint, su root before installing the flash plugin with the nspluginwrapper script.. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Mary had a crypto key she kept it in escrow and everything that Mary said the Feds were sure to know. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 04:58:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DBB16A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B2B13C469 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rem@bsd.remdog.net) Received: from remdog.net (c-67-164-123-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.164.123.46]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20071008045844m1300og1nae>; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:58:44 +0000 Received: by bsd.remdog.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 98D9F1CEEB; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:59:11 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD List Message-ID: <20071008045911.GD1279@remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD List References: <20071007172617.GA46620@remdog.net> <20071008144355.7bb87d62@meijome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071008144355.7bb87d62@meijome.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Flashplayer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:58:45 -0000 > this was a list of the related components from an email I sent in late July this year - I've since updated several of them ,but it still works just fine. > > firefox-2.0.0.5,1 > javavmwrapper-2.3 > diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_6 > linux-flashplugin-7.0r69 > nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4_2 > > youtube works fine, except for a slight sound async in some cases, but i don't know if that's due to my cpu , the flash plugin or the wrapper. I dont particularly care really... > > the flash9 plugin was having some problems when I last tested it. it may have been fixed, i don't know. > > read the archives for instructions on how to install the plugins (hint, su root before installing the flash plugin with the nspluginwrapper script.. > B Thanks for the tips. I have since got the youtube-dl program running in conjunction with , and am quite happy with the way that works. Rem > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 05:03:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AE716A46C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 05:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C543113C4A6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 05:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-313693.home.otenet.gr [85.72.80.251]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l9853MOH021631 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:03:22 +0300 Message-ID: <4709BA1A.60802@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:03:22 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20071007230956.GA30647@teddy.fas.com> In-Reply-To: <20071007230956.GA30647@teddy.fas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Marvel NFE driver in 6 CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 05:03:25 -0000 stan wrote: > I'm building a new machine which (I beleive) needs the NFE driver fr the > onboard NIC's. > > It appears that there is a third part (as in not in tree) driver for this > chipset, Why is this not in 6.2 CURRENT? Are the issues with it? > > I am using this driver in 6.2-RELEASE: http://www.f.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp/~shigeaki//software/freebsd-nfe.html I have no idea if it has been merged in STABLE or CURRENT, but it has been running for about 50 days on 6.2-RELEASE/amd64 and had no problems with it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 06:06:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3770316A419 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDFF13C43E for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9866T7m034672; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:06:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B794AB869; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:06:28 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: williamkow Message-ID: <20071008060628.GA10623@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: williamkow , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4708D990.7020809@yahoo.com> <20071007140316.GA84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <47097F04.5030906@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47097F04.5030906@yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse/TrackMan Wheel from Logitech X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:06:31 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:51:16AM +0800, williamkow wrote: >=20 > Tahnk you for your reply, may I ask if I to purchase TrackMan Wheel > Mouse (Logitech), does it also work and compatible in FreeBSD? Please > advise, Thank you. > [1]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/ > 166&cl=3Dmy,en I think it will. I haven't tried it since I'm left-handed. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHCcjkEnfvsMMhpyURAtrzAJ4oIkYFo2l6JROaHWsnsUfyC5fncwCeOYBW fq8yACJp/huvQsmOqZ56uSM= =FRWC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 06:32:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEBD16A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8AF513C448 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 24347 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2007 06:31:57 -0000 Received: from adsl81.dyn229.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.229.81) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 8 Oct 2007 06:31:55 -0000 Message-ID: <4709CED4.8060604@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:31:48 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: williamkow , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4708D990.7020809@yahoo.com> <20071007140316.GA84686@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <47097F04.5030906@yahoo.com> <20071008060628.GA10623@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071008060628.GA10623@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse/TrackMan Wheel from Logitech X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:32:00 -0000 Hi, I used the Trackman with earlier versions and I did not have any problems. I do not use it with the current version. Erich Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:51:16AM +0800, williamkow wrote: >> Tahnk you for your reply, may I ask if I to purchase TrackMan Wheel >> Mouse (Logitech), does it also work and compatible in FreeBSD? Please >> advise, Thank you. >> [1]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/ >> 166&cl=my,en > > I think it will. I haven't tried it since I'm left-handed. :-) > > Roland From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 06:51:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D4616A41A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A794A13C47E for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2360059pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:51:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+ZDaL7SyFltejmnj3fRySIH8M7P1+GUcNkmhRElE0Xs=; b=LdbTzEA9ilW1fazDYM1IEAnJwqV8qck4HJYCNGKM3SS3SJGnqISX9Do5nRvkpbrNfHi3/gI6eDIrbsFJDqLAB8Ij43Le0SFLL+bThG/HB28oTJzx6zuQRAYyFkThg4eSaxstACbDStj61+7DfmNwTJBGTjCO2W2V0Q+8rHjFq+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PULJkN+GzEBmhXDEIXEJqEP58KQ2VWx4EL7CBjkeQDIyb1YkT0nZsenoUAoBmyfo4+I2VRfuOClBC5+StNe3bXqqC4WVzpP1U6to7uPzsvule6+ZAOTkvoIMg5K7ZuFS0t6ExNL4zoCzV0WJo7nO0UxVcE2GBsNq+JdRMUvy8Oo= Received: by 10.64.199.2 with SMTP id w2mr9992784qbf.1191826286070; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.210.17 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90710072351o463f26b9r6ee532af5cfd3dc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:51:25 -0500 From: Novembre To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:51:28 -0000 > > Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a > > couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it > > (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it > > later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you > > can see from > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile > > in revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using > > /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now > > it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use > > /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of > > fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)? > > The only way I can see that working is if /usr/local/modules in > kern.modules_path /before/ mount -a is executed by /etc/rc.d/mount. Which > means there should be a line: > kern.module_path=/boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/usr/local/modules > > in /etc/sysctl.conf on your machine. > Also, mount_ntfs-3g should be able to load the module dynamically. My /etc/sysctl.conf is basically empty; it's all the usual default comments. Nothing is specified there. > > Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the > > 'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition? > > ---------- > > [user@pasargadae ~]$ dmesg -a > > ... > > Starting fusefs. > > fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > > ... > > Mounting late file systems: > > fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory > > ---------- > > What does ls -l /sbin/mount_ntfs-3g say? There is no /sbin/mount_ntfs-3g. But /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g exists and is a symlink to /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g. I'm not sure whether it's relevant to your question, but I had made /sbin/mount_ntfs-3g a symlink to /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g myself, and that also was not working (but I had tired it with the previous version of ntfs-3g not the one currently installed). > > This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that > > ntfs-3g has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition > > (but I don't see it mounted)! > > ---------- > > [user@pasargadae ~]$ cat /var/log/messages > > ... > > Oct 6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from > > ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version > > 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913 > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write, > > label "", NTFS 3.0) > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null) > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options: > > noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1 > > ... > > ---------- > > > And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate > > more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using > > /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that? > > > > And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use > > /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time. > > However, this also does not work! > > ---------- > > #!/bin/sh > > # > > # PROVIDE: ntfsmount > > # REQUIRE: fusefs > > # > > > > . /etc/rc.subr > > > > name="ntfsmount" > > rcvar=${name}_enable > > command="/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g" > > command_args="/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8" > > Does /mnt/windows exist? > Anything interesting with `sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntfsmount' ? Yes, /mnt/windows exists. Nothing interesting as far as I could understand the output of 'sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntfsmount'. What specifically do I have to look for? > If I find some more time, I'll play around with it. > -- > Mel Thanks a lot :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 06:53:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FCE16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B84013C467 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2361026pyb for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:53:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=j/D7lpPH//z+3AaJDLdJZukvjH0ZCcXG3GR261aHyNg=; b=WkMk+oFQnqPuAYQ42LujaJ/MS63jr/6EZXWG0QLbypJSs3t5ZFmdhS8G9QGznZ7RB2DAvBFzgUOyTOgMA2pXTtYCg9iJNmRDwJiH+JQScSkDXr1ubkdd/hwk7Icq5E3m6schfNQGC47FFO4V1V0STTvzZfO2m7efRliKdl6gQNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K9EZbMfpBT2fXUJI438e8MPjF923YNqSL2zkRdu7VUZUH8zky3MR9CrceTvkQKMZ9m4IH9W6Txw1b6dFkconvjxuhea3F3C2ZWtVtMnpIt1DZcGCMu46Of0gzl2T/fnn0IMnHrHAXkzpODDMGQnj9NpKQ0EA5ALC4ffoIHNxQT8= Received: by 10.65.151.6 with SMTP id d6mr33345024qbo.1191826425065; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.210.17 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90710072353h4897264fr5d1c80b06ee90000@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:53:45 -0500 From: Novembre To: "Craig Butler" In-Reply-To: <47093F4B.70300@lerwick.hopto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b47caa90710062301s32d54e30j1f2e64eb65126879@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90710070100p7b28e9f8o64b4e76304710c32@mail.gmail.com> <200710071548.04067.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <3b47caa90710071107g7ce30067k832d97db92afbd1c@mail.gmail.com> <47093F4B.70300@lerwick.hopto.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:53:46 -0000 On 10/7/07, Craig Butler wrote: > Novembre wrote: > > On 10/7/07, Mel wrote: > > > >> On Sunday 07 October 2007 10:00:35 Novembre wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On 10/7/07, Doug Barton wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet > >>>>> > >>>> loaded. > >>>> > >>>> Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel > >>>> module loaded at boot time and then see what happens next? > >>>> > >>> Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in > >>> /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file > >>> systems are mounted. > >>> > >> Filesystems that need modules from anywhere else then the root partition > >> cannot be loaded from /etc/fstab. > >> Either make fusefs-kmod install in /boot/modules > >> (echo 'KMOD_DIR=/boot/modules' > >> > >>> /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile.local) or mount the filesystem > >>> > >> using an rc(8) script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. > >> In the end you do not really care whether it's mounted 20 seconds or 1 > >> second > >> before login prompt is available. > >> > >> -- > >> Mel > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a > > couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it > > (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it > > later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you > > can see from > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile in > > revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using > > /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now > > it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use > > /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of > > fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)? > > > > Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the > > 'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition? > > ---------- > > [user@pasargadae ~]$ dmesg -a > > ... > > Starting fusefs. > > fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > > ... > > Mounting late file systems: > > fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory > > ---------- > > > > This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that ntfs-3g > > has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition (but I > > don't see it mounted)! > > ---------- > > [user@pasargadae ~]$ cat /var/log/messages > > ... > > Oct 6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI > > 7.8 > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913 > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write, > > label "", NTFS 3.0) > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null) > > Oct 6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options: > > noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1 > > ... > > ---------- > > > > And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate > > more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using > > /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that? > > > > And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use > > /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time. > > However, this also does not work! > > ---------- > > #!/bin/sh > > # > > # PROVIDE: ntfsmount > > # REQUIRE: fusefs > > # > > > > . /etc/rc.subr > > > > name="ntfsmount" > > rcvar=${name}_enable > > command="/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g" > > command_args="/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8" > > > > load_rc_config $name > > > > : ${ntfsmount_enable="NO"} > > > > run_rc_command "$1" > > ---------- > > I have made this script executable and have put ' ntfsmount_enable="YES" ' > > in my /etc/rc.conf. So basically, I'm out of ideas now, and I need the > > experts' help in this case. I think this problem is way above my current > > knowledge of FreeBSD. > > > > Thanks for your help :) > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Wow thats a lot of work..... > > one liner in /etc/rc.local > /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8 & > > > Job Done :p > > > > > ============================================================ > This email has been handled by lerwick.hopto.org mail server > and has been scanned by 3 virus killers and spamassassin > ============================================================ > > Are you sure it's going to work? My rc.d script is doing just that and it's not working. Are you using it yourself to mount any NTFS partition at boot time? Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 08:18:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E8A16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb5:7e66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E9713C44B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l980a6Hh031661; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:36:06 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:36:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710080236.05888.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Gary Kline , Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:18:48 -0000 On Sunday 07 October 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > First, thank to both you and Bart for your cmments. You were > *right* about the price. Can I assume that a ballpark would be > 400W for each server? (My wife is right: I've got to cut back to > three computers:-) I've found one APC 2200VA with a 17minute > uptime. 3 times 400W, yes? I think this is overkill. Some time ago I was wondering the same thing and to verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a VA/Watts meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per server idle and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. of 180watts for less than a second. The servers are simple dual cores with about 2 harddisks each. (no screens or other devices attached) Also, the powerfactor was ~0,95 so that means that for every Watt of apparent power (VA) almost a Watt of real power was used. Thus, for my servers I would need something like a 500Watt/600VA UPS. So my advice is: don't guess but measure. Cheers, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 08:42:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A7916A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D96513C45D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l988gS31069729 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:42:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l988edZP069650 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:40:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:40:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071008103928.R69642@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: zero copy tcp send X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:42:35 -0000 i found sendfile(2) doing this. but the question - does normal write(2) doing this when sending from user process memory, not file? does memory have to be aligned special way,like to page boundary? 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1015396706-1191843684=:72846 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Elissonde, Maryline (FR) wrote: > Bonjour > Ce contrôleur est-il supporté par FREE BSD z tego co widze to nie. > Merci de votre retour urgent > Cdt > > Maryline ELISSONDE-GUINOT > Ingénieur Commerciale GROSSISTES-IT STORES-GMS-EXPORT > MAXDATA SARL > Z.A. de la Croix aux Bergers > 7 Avenue du Général de Gaulle - Bâtiment 4 > 91090 Lisses > France > > > Phone +33 (0)1-6911-3796 > Fax +33 (0)1-6911-3911 > maryline.elissonde@maxdata.com > ____________________________________ > > http://fr.maxdata.com | http://www.belinea.com > > http://fr.maxdata.com/services/fm/index.jsp > > > > > --0-1015396706-1191843684=:72846-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 13:56:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D13B16A41B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elvar@ooz.net) Received: from mail.elvar.org (mail.elvar.org [74.93.93.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DAB13C49D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elvar@ooz.net) Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([192.168.0.4]) (authenticated user elvar@elvar.org) by mail.elvar.org for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 02:24:16 -0500 Message-ID: <4705E6DB.5070301@ooz.net> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:25:15 -0500 From: Elvar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071004223208.61297.qmail@kev.nowhere.usa> In-Reply-To: <20071004223208.61297.qmail@kev.nowhere.usa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:56:26 -0000 Karl Vogel wrote: >>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:03:06 +0200, Roland Smith said: >>> > > R> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 03:20:58PM -0500, Joe in MPLS wrote: > J> I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for > J> mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for > J> primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV > J> scanning would be a plus too. > > R> I've been using bogofilter for some years now, and it works very well once > R> you've trained it properly. > > I started collecting spam a few years ago, and I use a Bayesian filter > called ifile to handle junk. I trained it using just over 117,000 crapmail > messages, and I don't get a lot of spam these days... > > http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/Software/Internet/Servers/Mail/Spam/Ifile/ > > I highly recommend ASSP. It's by far the best spam filter I've ever used and my clients are constantly raving about it's effectiveness. It's also extremely easy to configure and maintain. Check it out at http://assp.sourceforge.net/ . Regards, Elvar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 13:57:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EF116A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elvar@ooz.net) Received: from mail.elvar.org (mail.elvar.org [74.93.93.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3237813C4A3 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elvar@ooz.net) Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([192.168.0.4]) (authenticated user elvar@elvar.org) by mail.elvar.org for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 02:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:20:17 -0500 From: Elvar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:57:44 -0000 Hi there, I'm sharing my experiences with this in the hopes that it saves someone else many many hours of troubleshooting and headaches. A client of mine has a Dell Poweredge tower server with FreeBSD 6-stable on it which was acting as their firewall. At some point in time about 6 months ago the box started locking up every day or couple of days. I imagine this was probably after a buildworld / installworld but I can't remember. It would hard lock with nothing logged or any sign of anything, and no response from the keyboard. In my experiences this usually resulted in bad memory but after swapping out the memory for new memory the issue still persisted. As time went on I eventually pulled the hard drives out of the server and put them into another server with completely different hardware (minus the transfered hard drives). After bringing the install up on the other server I still had the hard locks. I googled like mad and tried all sorts of things to narrow down the problem but kept coming up with nothing. Now, I admit I'm not an elite user so I'm sure lots of you could probably have figured it out quicker. Eventually I put new hard drives into the original firewall (the Dell Poweredge) and did a clean install of FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. Unfortunately after bringing the box online as the firewall again it continued locking up. I then updated to -STABLE and still experienced the issue. Finally, after even more countless hours of googling I found this thread http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765&page=1&pp=1 which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not having a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing and it's been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup. It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like it is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out. Kind regards, Elvar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 14:41:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF6A16A41B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from public.aci.on.ca (mailbox.aci.on.ca [205.207.148.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2475213C4A7 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from (invalid client hostname: host address literal does not match remote client address)[127.0.0.1] ((no PTR matching greeting name)xtreme-13-162.dyn.aci.on.ca[69.17.172.162] port=1240) by public.aci.on.ca([205.207.148.251] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (1789 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:23:09 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2007-Apr-30) Message-ID: <470A3D96.3000904@qwirky.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:24:22 -0400 From: Jeff Royle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <47096FD7.4000309@rowyerboat.com> In-Reply-To: <47096FD7.4000309@rowyerboat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000779-0, 08/10/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Stephen Allen Subject: Re: /var/log/messages filling up with DHCPDISCOVER messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@qwirky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:41:58 -0000 Stephen Allen wrote: > /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf is configured with > > "log-facility local7;" > > and /etc/syslog.conf is also configured with > > "local7.* /var/log/dhcpd.log" > > However, /var/log/messages is filling up with "DHCPDISCOVER / no free > leases" messages for those clients that are unknown to the DHCP server > (eg. on a different subnet). I suspect that these messages are being > caught by "*.notice" which is why they end up in /var/log/messages. > > Is there a way to prevent this happening? You could try filtering them out of syslog like so (in your syslogd.conf): "local7.!=notice /var/log/dhcpd.log" Which should log everything for local7 except notice. See man syslog.conf(5) Cheers, Jeff Royle lists dot qwirky dot net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:20:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E0816A418 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1C213C461 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l98FINjT007774; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:18:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l98FINnC007773; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:18:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:18:23 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: ronggui Message-ID: <20071008151823.GB7586@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <38b9f0350710071923w16c75c65lc7820b7f09d07f64@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <38b9f0350710071923w16c75c65lc7820b7f09d07f64@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: help: the Input problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:20:08 -0000 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:23:01AM +0800, ronggui wrote: > I use scim as my input. > > When I use bash as my login shell, I add these lines to ~/.profile > > export LANG=zh_CN.eucCN > export LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN > export G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 > export G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK > export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' > scim -d > > All is fine. But I would like to use tcsh as my login shell, and try to add > the followings to ~/.login_conf > > me:\ > :lang=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :charset=gbk:\ > :setenv=LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=LC_COLLATE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=LC_MESSAGES=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=LC_TIME=zh_CN.eucCN:\ > :setenv=G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1:\ > :setenv=G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK:\ > :setenv=XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM": > > and add "scim -d" to the ~/.xsession. I can't toggle on the scim. > > PS: I login in with kdm. > > What should I do to use tcsh as my login shell? Change the last field in your /etc/passwd entry to '/bin/tcsh' and make sure /bin/tcsh is listed in /etc/shells You can then put whatever you want to set for your account in your /home_directory_path/.cshrc file ////jerry > > Thanks > > -- > Ronggui Huang > > Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China > > Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:31:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B85B16A4A9 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C472913C49D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.3]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l98FVJW0014953; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:31:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:31:19 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071008153119.GA44887@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20071008021804.GW19429@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20071008021804.GW19429@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:31:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:31:21 -0000 Le 07/10/2007 à 19:18:04-0700, Christopher Cowart a écrit > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:10:56AM +0000, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > I finally got around to compiling abiword and I get the following when > > I try to run it: > > > > > abiword > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > > > uname -a > > FreeBSD monsert 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Oct 7 > > 20:47:51 UTC 2007 plos@monsert:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 > > > > I don't want to bother with attempting to figure out why it broke. > > My question is since it looks like I am stuck with Tex is there any > > wyswyg editors for it? > > I've heard good things about kile (editors/kile), but have never used it > on FreeBSD. It's also from the KDE folks, so you might be waiting a long > time for all libraries to compile. Kile is not a wyswyg for TeX editors. Kile is a application to allow you make TeX more easly thant vi file.tex but you always enter directly tex commands. IMHO TeX is not so hard to learn. TeX/LaTeX become very hard when you want do something very fine. And in that case it's simple the other software (like OpenOffice/Word/etc.) just can do that. For me TeX is the best for formating some documents. All my documents is in TeX (well in fact in LaTeX) or in ... ascii. Regards. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Lun 8 oct 2007 17:27:56 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:08:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F7D16A421 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Received: from mailsafe.midasnetworks.com (mailsafe.midasnetworks.com [216.110.12.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62AE13C4BC for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Received: from [192.168.2.48] (hobie.midasnetworks.com [216.110.12.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailsafe.midasnetworks.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l98G86at028334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:08:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Boyd Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:08:01 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: Update on data corruption with Tyan/3Ware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:08:07 -0000 Following up so that the archives will have the resolution: Bad RAM. Turns out that there were about 20 bytes in the third GB of the four in the system that would spit out garbage data when read back. Thanks to everyone on the list and 3Ware support for their suggestions. --Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 17:10:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE85B16A468 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3202C13C467 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l98H42D8084351; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l98H40EH084350; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:04:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Pieter de Goeje Message-ID: <20071008170400.GB84240@thought.org> References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> <200710080236.05888.pieter@degoeje.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200710080236.05888.pieter@degoeje.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:10:52 -0000 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:36:05AM +0200, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > > First, thank to both you and Bart for your cmments. You were > > *right* about the price. Can I assume that a ballpark would be > > 400W for each server? (My wife is right: I've got to cut back to > > three computers:-) I've found one APC 2200VA with a 17minute > > uptime. 3 times 400W, yes? > > I think this is overkill. Some time ago I was wondering the same thing and to > verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a VA/Watts > meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per server idle > and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. of 180watts for > less than a second. The servers are simple dual cores with about 2 harddisks > each. (no screens or other devices attached) Also, the powerfactor was ~0,95 > so that means that for every Watt of apparent power (VA) almost a Watt of > real power was used. Thus, for my servers I would need something like a > 500Watt/600VA UPS. > > So my advice is: don't guess but measure. > Thanks a lot. I was thinking of doing something like this; maybe an ammeter to see how much power each server draws; then (possiibly add a bit for reserve). I'm looking at this as a long-time project. Not rushing to do something completely foolish. So the more accuracy, the better! gary > Cheers, > Pieter de Goeje > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 17:42:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A592116A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [80.68.94.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7380413C4A6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (cran1.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB2A30356; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:42:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <470A6BEF.4040808@cran.org.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:42:07 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20071008103928.R69642@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071008103928.R69642@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zero copy tcp send X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:42:25 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i found sendfile(2) doing this. > but the question - does normal write(2) doing this when sending from > user process memory, not file? > > does memory have to be aligned special way,like to page boundary? > Yes - see zero_copy(9) -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 17:43:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A97D16A475 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A84613C459 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:43:31 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070814) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elvar References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> In-Reply-To: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:43:47 -0000 Elvar wrote: > Hi there, > http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765&page=1&pp=1 > > which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person > mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not having > a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing and it's > been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup. > > It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been > taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like it > is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out. Hi, What hardware is this? Sounds very similar to something I've seen too, if it's the samt issue I can confirm it is happening in -CURRENT also. Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? Per olof From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 17:45:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F3D16A419 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [80.68.94.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C83213C469 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (cran1.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC4930356; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:45:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <470A6C9D.20605@cran.org.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:45:01 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071007214050.GA75418@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071007214050.GA75418@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: hard drive testing... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:45:17 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Last question for today. Well, hopefullly. Is bonnie++ > the only meeans of testing a hard drive? I thought thre was > something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more > thoroughly. > This had been "awhile ago"... maybe ~5 years. > > thanks, people, > > gary > All recent drives support SMART - to test a drive you can install sysutils/smartmontools and use smartctl to run a test e.g smartctl -t long /dev/ad0 There are various different tests you can run, including surface tests, online and offline etc. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 18:05:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4F716A421 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7658913C480 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [172.23.23.190] (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l98I580d040270 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:05:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <470A715D.7090803@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:05:17 -0400 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> <200710080236.05888.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <200710080236.05888.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:05:11 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a VA/Watts > meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per server idle > and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. of 180watts for I've got one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001 Works nicely for measuring cumulative power usage. APC's web site also has a selector with very model-specific power consumption figures: http://www.apc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm -Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 18:20:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C378F16A421 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C52D13C4A5 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1037785nfb for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:20:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8gK1AaoLNsDnpqTB7dM9UQy18++gj3rjdcy3RAYV1f8=; b=KOM5V9j+hJrlrjEjvN5hli/RvWsr2fePaaEV5D7YWyhUuM0EKgHHjt+IX4kUs5faNzxoRJH44LpMDaOjlmvX34ITB9eZHL1IezTKfU+yPI2nfPOJX2+RxDuv0mjFVeUWI0NwzdBDiSHseVG3EDcmnOsysGghuU8fE94EEgOyTf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=tiJ0vY2NVMI7Pyl66JTZDaoIEqD93iYHW7YBACmtWgR8idzoudtj3DOFG/UR3ZOZUK4RZM9Qh0xr+9SReNRo6hQ8PReocsZl598e6zk1pKSybOC8d7l76l26R2A6UAEXRF7xDpa8FjthLsRchhfBASETaQK6UBpxPu9wbZ3TFIk= Received: by 10.78.142.14 with SMTP id p14mr10955353hud.1191866058054; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?194.186.18.14? ( [194.186.18.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm3424378hub.2007.10.08.10.54.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Yuri Pankov To: Per olof Ljungmark In-Reply-To: <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:54:04 +0400 Message-Id: <1191866044.1286.0.camel@darklight> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Elvar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:20:06 -0000 On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 19:43 +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Elvar wrote: > > Hi there, > > > http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765&page=1&pp=1 > > > > which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person > > mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not having > > a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing and it's > > been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup. > > > > It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been > > taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like it > > is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out. > > Hi, > What hardware is this? Sounds very similar to something I've seen too, > if it's the samt issue I can confirm it is happening in -CURRENT also. > > Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option > (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? > > Per olof This might be the answer: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-July/075180.html -- Yuri Pankov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 18:54:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFA916A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FDD13C447; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:54:31 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Elvar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:54:31 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Elvar wrote: >> Hi there, > >> http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765&page=1&pp=1 >> >> which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person >> mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not >> having a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing >> and it's been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup. >> >> It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been >> taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like >> it is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out. > > Hi, > What hardware is this? Sounds very similar to something I've seen too, > if it's the samt issue I can confirm it is happening in -CURRENT also. > > Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option > (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and holding back further development. If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect anyone to fix your problems. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 18:56:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3CF16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.kuban.ru (mail.kuban.ru [62.183.66.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBAC13C48E for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bsam.ru ([85.172.12.30]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id l98ItqIp059901 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:56:10 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from bsam@localhost) by bsam.ru (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l98IwVxR001640; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:58:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: bsam.ru: bsam set sender to bsam@ipt.ru using -f To: Vinny References: <47095A0E.6030506@palaceofretention.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:58:31 +0400 In-Reply-To: <47095A0E.6030506@palaceofretention.ca> (Vinny's message of "Sun\, 07 Oct 2007 18\:13\:34 -0400") Message-ID: <10930104@bsam.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Jails and freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:56:36 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:13:34 -0400 Vinny wrote: > I'm setting up a server for mail and web. I want to > put each in their own jail on a host system. I have installed > 6.2-Release on the host and successfully used freebsd-update > to grab up to -p8. So far so good. > Now, I was going to install the jails using the standard > way (man jail): > JAIL=/path/to/jail > cd /usr/src > mkdir -p $JAIL > make world DESTDIR=$JAIL > make distribution DESTDIR=$JAIL > and so forth. > But then it occurred to me that freebsd-update says > it only works on installations that haven't been > built from source. > My question then is how can I use freebsd-update with > jails? > Thanks for any help. Seems that you are looking for sysutils/ezjail. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 19:03:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A2616A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAE113C447 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1047309nfb for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:03:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:content-disposition:date:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=W5EGiVnrrBa8X0/UqP9sQ4gOlQC2ZF8saxCySvX5wfw=; b=C1SBeIPS5/7JNQUUa/KRH1wuvN1A+JyDxdFeeV4eCY2sqKySv5Njy0BjQKukcQRe6HW8tI6nDZP/v6kkeisOFmYNaii02hFkfa9XBUyV8Cd9uBq0lM1CvDiCOR7cHlj36+a9/skwa31WEZBXxxH3gI3rgRUB6AZ57ZlPBjbR4nU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:content-disposition:date:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=is3xyRMv1Jhm1qZg8kVvG3W78ZramcJYGwAnu8OibgGdMO77IMAAFsmr0asmhQrn/HmD1uLtqIDUNsuPkCrtfzL+ZLv8onVSUmizVOfbLlZChPLaIDxNSaaoIrX/s9yXEMJWQ+3R1hm2kPnBN6ZKLcNK50ssN262/7CbAiMQdEY= Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr23377265buc.1191868567750; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdontu-l.dsd.ro ( [217.156.83.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm13618922muf.2007.10.08.11.36.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:36:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Organization: Home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:35:57 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200710082135.58099.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: amd64_set_gsbase() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:03:38 -0000 Hi, I have a "small" amd64 program that makes havy use of LDT (%GS to be more specific). The trouble is, in a multithreaded environment, the selector value gets lost (or reset?). The code *always* segfaults with this stack: 4 LWP 100126 0x0000000800dec07c in select () from /lib/libc.so.6 * 3 Thread 0x517000 (runnable) 0x000000080055cfbc in ?? () 2 Thread 0x517400 (LWP 100125) 0x0000000800c0d85c in pthread_testcancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 1 Thread 0x517800 (runnable) 0x0000000800d5d000 in makecontext () from /lib/libc.so.6 at this instruction: 0x000000080055cfbc: mov %gs:0x10,%r11 (gdb) p $gs $1 = 0 I've been reading on the net something about the kernel not preserving the GS across syscalls (or stmh). Is this true? and if so, is there a known workaround? I'm on a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE-200706 (AMD64) machine. Thanks, -- Mihai DonÈ›u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 19:07:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ED816A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF0E13C494 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <470A7FEC.6060806@intersonic.se> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:07:24 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070814) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Elvar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:07:35 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> Elvar wrote: >>> Hi there, >> >> >> Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option >> (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? > > Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and > holding back further development. > > If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the > necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. > Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect anyone > to fix your problems. Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging? I would post more information if I knew how to get it. Per olof From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 19:29:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E0516A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0487513C4CE; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <470A84FF.1090605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:29:03 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> <470A7FEC.6060806@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <470A7FEC.6060806@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Elvar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:29:06 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>> Elvar wrote: >>>> Hi there, >>> > >>> >>> Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option >>> (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? >> >> Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and >> holding back further development. >> >> If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the >> necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. >> Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect >> anyone to fix your problems. > > Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no > dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging? > > I would post more information if I knew how to get it. Of course, and it's documented in the above place. Did you read it yet? Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 19:59:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852BE16A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from anuket.mj.niksun.com (gwnew.niksun.com [65.115.46.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446F313C468 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from niksun.com (anuket [10.70.0.5]) by anuket.mj.niksun.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l98JbBKg001756; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:37:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:37:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200710082135.58099.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200710082135.58099.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200710081537.03836.jkim@FreeBSD.org> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/4507/Mon Oct 8 14:42:59 2007 on anuket.mj.niksun.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Subject: Re: amd64_set_gsbase() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:59:49 -0000 On Monday 08 October 2007 02:35 pm, Mihai DonÈ›u wrote: > Hi, > > I have a "small" amd64 program that makes havy use of LDT (%GS to > be more specific). The trouble is, in a multithreaded environment, > the selector value gets lost (or reset?). > > The code *always* segfaults with this stack: > 4 LWP 100126 0x0000000800dec07c in select () from /lib/libc.so.6 > * 3 Thread 0x517000 (runnable) 0x000000080055cfbc in ?? () > 2 Thread 0x517400 (LWP 100125) 0x0000000800c0d85c in > pthread_testcancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 1 Thread 0x517800 > (runnable) 0x0000000800d5d000 in makecontext () from > /lib/libc.so.6 > > at this instruction: > 0x000000080055cfbc: mov %gs:0x10,%r11 > > (gdb) p $gs > $1 = 0 > > I've been reading on the net something about the kernel not > preserving the GS across syscalls (or stmh). Is this true? and if > so, is there a known workaround? > > I'm on a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE-200706 (AMD64) machine. Yes, you are correct. A short version is "don't do that". A long version goes like this. %fs and %gs are not preserved while context switching on amd64. In fact, you should not use amd64_set_gsbase() directly. If you *really* have to mess up with base addresses, you have to use sysarch(2) syscall, i.e., sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, args). However, it only changes the base address via MSR, i.e., %gs itself has no meaning. Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 20:02:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0303416A419; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88F913C4AC; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <470A8CE2.8060106@intersonic.se> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:02:42 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070814) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> <470A7FEC.6060806@intersonic.se> <470A84FF.1090605@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <470A84FF.1090605@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:02:54 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>> Elvar wrote: >>>>> Hi there, >>>> >> >>>> >>>> Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option >>>> (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? >>> >>> Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and >>> holding back further development. >>> >>> If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the >>> necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. >>> Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect >>> anyone to fix your problems. >> >> Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no >> dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging? > > > > I would post more information if I knew how to get it. > > Of course, and it's documented in the above place. Did you read it yet? I've used that information on other occasions but then at least the keyboard was functional. Not sure how to interpret what is says in a proper fashion, I could guess of course: What I see is termed a "deadlock"? I'll definitely try that one on this little bugger then. Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 20:12:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323D716A468 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9DD13C457; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <470A8F2A.9070706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:12:26 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> <470A7FEC.6060806@intersonic.se> <470A84FF.1090605@FreeBSD.org> <470A8CE2.8060106@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <470A8CE2.8060106@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:12:27 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>> Elvar wrote: >>>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this >>>>> option (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? >>>> >>>> Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and >>>> holding back further development. >>>> >>>> If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining >>>> the necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a >>>> PR. Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect >>>> anyone to fix your problems. >>> >>> Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no >>> dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging? >> > >> > I would post more information if I knew how to get it. >> >> Of course, and it's documented in the above place. Did you read it yet? > > I've used that information on other occasions but then at least the > keyboard was functional. Not sure how to interpret what is says in a > proper fashion, I could guess of course: What I see is termed a > "deadlock"? I'll definitely try that one on this little bugger then. Yes. Break to DDB, then proceed. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 20:49:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E877516A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFE513C461 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1271770wxd for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:49:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=2v63qyWT4OImw7spFkod+VhWHVXa0zsk415rrn3iXH8=; b=lJpIVmGVujUIDpFYW8WmSnoFWF6YeVUZjbmiw/BHGxLYbj7mw5TITAfKan9izY3nQOB3EyoVg9qA7D+Eqaj/8eXR1E+Aj8pp0Zzj9AuYnhTUeN/HVKTCVRQj+tXQnyL++2JTbsMWZGx/EQ4RP8lFifss+lS8as6pgZuJasOGnAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HYxSuE1eYJWJmYZYq28A9f4xFMHC7tLIyj9GQwXkRR15EP+VzGUH0X6NCzCYXtDs4YwiekLqYPERVDrOkqKLyCO50rHRZMygMAKeCO9CVPFE5o5uV8aakJGj9JJcWsWe+auUqekb1Y9uaGpol95SeJ49BBHf3IYVFj8uQo5TRu4= Received: by 10.70.47.19 with SMTP id u19mr25648199wxu.1191876553497; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.16 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0710081349o741fe222xcdb9d64838ce66f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:49:13 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: software to cut mp3 files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:49:17 -0000 Hello, Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations (doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works under FreeBSD? I have files with a few songs in them and I would like to cut them into separate files. Never been there nor done that. All advice greatly appreciated. Thank you very much! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 21:03:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37A316A41B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919CB13C481 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 58) id BABE86D432; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:03:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: Reqd:5.0 Hits:0.0 Learn:ham Tests:none Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26DD6D430; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:03:44 +0000 (UTC) From: D Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0710081349o741fe222xcdb9d64838ce66f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071008205423.H37023@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> References: <94136a2c0710081349o741fe222xcdb9d64838ce66f5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: software to cut mp3 files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:03:46 -0000 On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 at 22:49 +0200, zszalbot@gmail.com confabulated: > Hello, > > Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is > able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations > (doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works > under FreeBSD? > > I have files with a few songs in them and I would like to cut them > into separate files. Never been there nor done that. All advice > greatly appreciated. I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity (/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The /usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the /usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 21:04:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4059C16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D944513C44B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l98L3oZ6052801; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:03:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071008160224.025a7138@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:03:26 -0500 To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0710081349o741fe222xcdb9d64838ce66f5@mail.gmail.co m> References: <94136a2c0710081349o741fe222xcdb9d64838ce66f5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: software to cut mp3 files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:04:07 -0000 At 03:49 PM 10/8/2007, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >Hello, > >Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is >able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations >(doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works >under FreeBSD? > >I have files with a few songs in them and I would like to cut them >into separate files. Never been there nor done that. All advice >greatly appreciated. > >Thank you very much! > >Zbigniew Szalbot There may be better ways, but you can uuencode the file then use split. You can do a man on uuencode, uudecode and split. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 21:18:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E1C16A419 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45BF13C478 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 35so604462aga for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:18:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=x8JxzT9zjYyzI+s4K0SQDagiHZN+0n50PS38TB8Lanw=; b=drgwSrpOWGjTKVNavRX8H1EJWxnOLdxomnHAjiiuKbJe91nHR6zB9E4ZsUJhdg8fJYdcOz5VIab4+VHR3TVuRFppi0cUKTfH1GuT+8HvJqKVgfhTr/dzk9Xz8E7t4hPo1CWOkhloc4YXR1zB4dfGA53QbAsN2pC7be9xdsOmeKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jKCoEefVI/beiDE1rV1yK9ogUYVxNWn6/aVmo1RJDmJk5wcJoDsRpuGeO+Me0fXxOuWxBVfHGDhmIMLB0PHHXWbLlXLeRcmnxQxpPTKAvH7Uyl2ihFGsOmZmqCPDF1vniCmQNCa9Kda9eB2wqx5gyG7S2+TE0IPXy6MbGppMaLQ= Received: by 10.70.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr2869673wxc.1191878311921; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.16 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0710081418v19503499ob44c2b9115534ff1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:18:31 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "D Hill" In-Reply-To: <20071008205423.H37023@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0710081349o741fe222xcdb9d64838ce66f5@mail.gmail.com> <20071008205423.H37023@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: software to cut mp3 files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:18:34 -0000 2007/10/8, D Hill : > I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity > (/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The > /usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable > version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports > is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the > /usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far. > Thanks a lot! I am in the process of cutting the files into separate songs :) Regards, Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 21:24:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1E316A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5642013C44B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l98LO7kg086410; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l98LO7JG086409; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:24:06 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20071008212406.GD84240@thought.org> References: <20071007214050.GA75418@thought.org> <470A6C9D.20605@cran.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <470A6C9D.20605@cran.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: hard drive testing... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:24:11 -0000 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 06:45:01PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > Last question for today. Well, hopefullly. Is bonnie++ > > the only meeans of testing a hard drive? I thought thre was > > something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more > > thoroughly. > > This had been "awhile ago"... maybe ~5 years. > > > > thanks, people, > > > > gary > > > > All recent drives support SMART - to test a drive you can install > sysutils/smartmontools and use smartctl to run a test e.g > > smartctl -t long /dev/ad0 > > There are various different tests you can run, including surface tests, > online and offline etc. > Well sir, Endless thanks due here! These are utilities that I will print and study the man pages to, &c. bonnie++ ran last night and very heavily loaded the system; it came up clean. I'm now running the second (every-4-hours) smartctl test. The first run that you sugggested above also showed no errors. Great that these utilities work with SCSI because that will be my next install on my DNS server. Meanwhile, I've added this to my sysadmin-knowledge-base kit. gary > -- > Bruce -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 22:01:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CA916A46B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3581913C455 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1084392nfb for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:01:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=SVQakLXrswognxq9/qXm/VvVzrdz2Q/BG1yWb2BdyiE=; b=RyxXWNjJyeRIJUwgIeJ4g2qNSCb/cmWKhVQdIrFl6XNWR6DQ9u/nFsGhFpg2WaB6eCa+OslQdI6yAWJ8Wy/KtPvhzEERg6U/MExZNyFAEpfSIlI6gooyn6+nAez015jekUcFPaw2i9+xqn6xKPTSmOh/PzfJgBrPnKowrRJbysw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=uXIHjFfG9bjcFZpGrcFNDB2M07K2+ZiBNly3poFctd9YeOMr5B0VCW7eWftrb7u95fzgvmj94r732gl0zmvtqaZpjxAwAVMz3XMxLzst0EvgAeI5JmicJDmTYVctHEwN8VkkBcI8RXiIVVISQsnUCLySXFVGtIbZNwZj3PPYBh4= Received: by 10.86.76.16 with SMTP id y16mr5439388fga.1191880869281; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? ( [77.81.70.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm7239712fka.2007.10.08.15.01.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Organization: Home To: Jung-uk Kim Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:00:58 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200710082135.58099.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> <200710081537.03836.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200710081537.03836.jkim@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710090100.58577.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64_set_gsbase() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:01:11 -0000 On Monday 08 October 2007, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > Yes, you are correct. A short version is "don't do that". A long > version goes like this. %fs and %gs are not preserved while context > switching on amd64. But this makes emulation software such as Wine a lost hope, doesn't it? Because Windows apps access the Thread Information Block (TIB) via %gs (%fs on ia32). Anyway, my so called "small" program is actually a Win64 emulator and I need the segment selector to "stay put" across syscalls. It works like a charm on single threaded apps, but as soon as I spawn a thread, all hell breaks loose :) I've managed to come up with something that *kind of* works. It goes like this: void my_handler( int s ) { if ( s == SIGSEGV ) { if ( get_gs() == 0 ) { amd64_set_gsbase(); } else { signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL ); } } } int my_init( void ) { /* alloc TIB memory and initialize */ amd64_set_gsbase( lpTIB ); signal( SIGSEGV, my_handler ); return 0; } but after a series of dlopen()-s, my_handler() is called without %gs being zero and without a valid fault (the handler does not get recalled after signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL ). I'm still working on this aspect ... > In fact, you should not use amd64_set_gsbase() > directly. If you *really* have to mess up with base addresses, you > have to use sysarch(2) syscall, i.e., sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, > args). I found this: /usr/src/lib/libc/amd64/sys/amd64_set_gsbase.c:32 " int amd64_set_gsbase(void *addr) { return (sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, &addr)); } " and this (man 2 sysarch()): "The sysarch() system call should never be called directly by user programs. Instead, they should access its functions using the architecture-dependent library." Who am I suppose to believe? :) > However, it only changes the base address via MSR, i.e., %gs > itself has no meaning. Maybe, but the selector loaded in %gs *does* have meaning. Anyway, the thing is I _have_ to make this work. I'll keep you posted ;) -- Mihai DonÈ›u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 22:41:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934A116A418; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from anuket.mj.niksun.com (gwnew.niksun.com [65.115.46.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBEF13C468; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from niksun.com (anuket [10.70.0.5]) by anuket.mj.niksun.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l98MfhsD013269; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:41:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:41:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200710082135.58099.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> <200710081537.03836.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <200710090100.58577.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200710090100.58577.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200710081841.35968.jkim@FreeBSD.org> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/4508/Mon Oct 8 17:22:13 2007 on anuket.mj.niksun.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Subject: Re: amd64_set_gsbase() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:41:44 -0000 On Monday 08 October 2007 06:00 pm, Mihai DonÈ›u wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > Yes, you are correct. A short version is "don't do that". A > > long version goes like this. %fs and %gs are not preserved while > > context switching on amd64. > > But this makes emulation software such as Wine a lost hope, doesn't > it? Because Windows apps access the Thread Information Block (TIB) > via %gs (%fs on ia32). It was discussed many times on freebsd-emulation@. > Anyway, my so called "small" program is actually a Win64 emulator > and I need the segment selector to "stay put" across syscalls. It > works like a charm on single threaded apps, but as soon as I spawn > a thread, all hell breaks loose :) Yup, that's expected. ;-) > I've managed to come up with something that *kind of* works. It > goes like this: > > void my_handler( int s ) > { > if ( s == SIGSEGV ) { > if ( get_gs() == 0 ) { > amd64_set_gsbase(); > } else { > signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL ); > } > } > } > > int my_init( void ) > { > /* alloc TIB memory and initialize */ > > amd64_set_gsbase( lpTIB ); > signal( SIGSEGV, my_handler ); > > return 0; > } > > but after a series of dlopen()-s, my_handler() is called without > %gs being zero and without a valid fault (the handler does not get > recalled after signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL ). I'm still working on > this aspect ... That does not work, i.e., %gs vs. base address mapping is not preserved on FreeBSD/amd64 as I said. You can probably maintain some mapping table, though. > > In fact, you should not use amd64_set_gsbase() > > directly. If you *really* have to mess up with base addresses, > > you have to use sysarch(2) syscall, i.e., > > sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, args). > > I found this: /usr/src/lib/libc/amd64/sys/amd64_set_gsbase.c:32 > " > int > amd64_set_gsbase(void *addr) > { > return (sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, &addr)); > } > " > > and this (man 2 sysarch()): "The sysarch() system call should never > be called directly by user programs. Instead, they should access > its functions using the architecture-dependent library." > > Who am I suppose to believe? :) Sorry, my bad. :-( > > However, it only changes the base address via MSR, i.e., %gs > > itself has no meaning. > > Maybe, but the selector loaded in %gs *does* have meaning. In long mode, we don't really care about segment registers. While implementing TLS for Linuxulator, I had to do the following hack, for example: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200703300006.l2U06LA1075891 Under Linux and Windows, they do preserve segment registers vs. base addresses mapping for backward compatibility, AFAIK with some performance penalty. Jung-uk Kim > Anyway, the thing is I _have_ to make this work. I'll keep you > posted ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 22:45:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B28B16A417 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0825B13C45D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from [82.70.166.86] (helo=[192.168.0.200]) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1If1Ln-000071-9q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:45:23 +0000 Message-ID: <470AB2FC.8070006@rowyerboat.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:45:16 +0100 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.70.166.86] Subject: Question about rc-scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:45:25 -0000 Under normal circumstance, should the /etc/rc.subr functions handle the creation of the pid at service start? The basic vendor-provided script (which I've had to adapt somewhat to suit this installation) runs "echo $! > ${dbgw_pidfile}" as the last line of the script. When you do a 'status' command though, it blanks out the contents of the pid. That echo line isn't present in any of the standard scripts - hence my initial question. Apart from variable assignments, the script defines 'start_cmd' (which I assume is used as the start command by rc.subr). Strange that I couldn't find any reference to start_cmd in /etc/rc.subr though. So, my question is, why isn't the pidfile being automagically created? Many thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 23:16:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F1316A418 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D24713C44B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l98NGCdC087079; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l98NGBwE087078; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:16:11 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Rob Message-ID: <20071008231611.GE84240@thought.org> References: <20071006231203.GA65801@thought.org> <47084E80.3010003@pacific.net.sg> <20071007194446.GA69551@thought.org> <200710080236.05888.pieter@degoeje.nl> <470A715D.7090803@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <470A715D.7090803@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: what kind of UPS will work best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:16:11 -0000 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:05:17PM -0400, Rob wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > >verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a > >VA/Watts meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per > >server idle and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. > >of 180watts for > > I've got one of these: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001 > > Works nicely for measuring cumulative power usage. APC's web site also has > a selector with very model-specific power consumption figures: > http://www.apc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm > Outstanding; thanks++ for the URL for the watt/amp/volt/Hz/VA meter. I just ordred one. Also for the ups_selector page. I'll need help getting the daemon and getting everything squared away, but that's months away. gary > -Rob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 23:36:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD6C16A475 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67A413C4A7 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l98NaG7X055038; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071008183414.025a1e88@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:35:53 -0500 To: Stephen Allen , FreeBSD Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <470AB2FC.8070006@rowyerboat.com> References: <470AB2FC.8070006@rowyerboat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Question about rc-scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:36:43 -0000 At 05:45 PM 10/8/2007, Stephen Allen wrote: >Under normal circumstance, should the /etc/rc.subr functions handle the >creation of the pid at service start? > >The basic vendor-provided script (which I've had to adapt somewhat to >suit this installation) runs "echo $! > ${dbgw_pidfile}" as the last >line of the script. When you do a 'status' command though, it blanks >out the contents of the pid. That echo line isn't present in any of the >standard scripts - hence my initial question. > >Apart from variable assignments, the script defines 'start_cmd' (which I >assume is used as the start command by rc.subr). Strange that I >couldn't find any reference to start_cmd in /etc/rc.subr though. > >So, my question is, why isn't the pidfile being automagically created? > >Many thanks, >Steve Not all scripts create a pid file is the simple answer. Your script should create the pid file on start, remove it on stop, and simply cat that file on a status. If you want help with your script, post it, and I'm sure one of us will give you a hand. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. 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( [77.81.70.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm7246968fkx.2007.10.08.17.48.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:48:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Organization: Home To: Jung-uk Kim Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:48:51 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200710082135.58099.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> <200710090100.58577.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> <200710081841.35968.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200710081841.35968.jkim@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710090348.52036.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64_set_gsbase() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:49:02 -0000 On Tuesday 09 October 2007, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > In long mode, we don't really care about segment registers. While > implementing TLS for Linuxulator, I had to do the following hack, for > example: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200703300006.l2U06LA1075891 > > Under Linux and Windows, they do preserve segment registers vs. base > addresses mapping for backward compatibility, AFAIK with some > performance penalty. Ah! But you are doing your magic _in the kernel_. I don't have this luxury :) I have to do everything in user space (as a normal user) on an out-of-the-box FreeBSD (-stable). I have *one* more question: maybe I don't fully understand the hole BASE thing, but since the FreeBSD kernel does not preserve %gs and %fs, what is the purpose of amd64_set_XXbase()? Thanks, -- Mihai DonÈ›u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 01:07:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274DD16A468 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DB213C45D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from [82.70.166.86] (helo=[192.168.0.200]) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1If3ZL-0006CG-3z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:07:31 +0000 Message-ID: <470AD44A.4070601@rowyerboat.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:07:22 +0100 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <470AB2FC.8070006@rowyerboat.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20071008183414.025a1e88@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20071008183414.025a1e88@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.70.166.86] Subject: Re: Question about rc-scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:07:33 -0000 Hi Derek, > Not all scripts create a pid file is the simple answer. I didn't see how the isc-dhcpd script or dovecot created a pid, so I assumed it was something that rc.subr took care of. > Your script should create the pid file on start, remove it on stop, and > simply cat that file on a status. If you want help with your script, > post it, and I'm sure one of us will give you a hand. Again, I thought the rc.subr functions took care of all that for you (unless you wanted something special from those commands). I've posted the script (changed quite a lot from vendor supplied) at: http://www.pastebin.ca/730238 If you (or anyone) were to suggest changes, I would very much appreciate the reasons why, so I can learn. Many thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 01:22:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FF816A41A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D9313C448 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from [192.168.0.66] (68.33.62.187) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.730.1; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:22:28 -0700 Message-ID: <470AD780.30702@ridecharge.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:21:04 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Allen References: <470AB2FC.8070006@rowyerboat.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20071008183414.025a1e88@mail.computinginnovations.com> <470AD44A.4070601@rowyerboat.com> In-Reply-To: <470AD44A.4070601@rowyerboat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Question about rc-scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:22:29 -0000 > Again, I thought the rc.subr functions took care of all that for you > (unless you wanted something special from those commands). > In general, they do see /etc/rc.subr: check_pidfile(), wait_for_pids(), Most binaries i.e. httpd, memcached, mysqld, etc... provide a config file or cli option to provide the path to a pid file. If you look in the ports tree a lot of the patches are putting this in the appropriate location: /var/run The rc.subr then just uses them. In general this system is very flexible. It breaks down if you wanted to run say 2 distinct memcached daemons on different ports with different pid files via the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/