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Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o alpha/75317 alpha [busdma] [patch] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f alpha/59116 alpha [ntfs] mount_ntfs of a Windows 2000-formatted fs cause o alpha/61940 alpha [sysinstall] Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/alp o alpha/61973 alpha Machine Check on boot-up of AlphaServer 2100A RM s alpha/67626 alpha X crashes an alpha machine, resulting reboot o alpha/85346 alpha PREEMPTION causes unstability in Alpha4000 SMP kernel o alpha/105134 alpha 'panic: lockmgr: thread ... not exclusive lock owner' 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o alpha/25284 alpha PC164 won't reboot with graphics console o alpha/38031 alpha osf1.ko not loaded during boot-time of linux-emu enabl o alpha/48676 alpha Changing the baud rate of serial consoles for Alpha sy o alpha/50868 alpha fd0 floppy device is not mapped into /dev (XP1000) Fre o alpha/66478 alpha unexpected machine check: panic for 4.9, 4.10, 5.2 or o alpha/67903 alpha hw.chipset.memory: 1099511627776 - thats way to much : 6 problems total. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:38 -0000 Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? -Nathan From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 16:36:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F93316A46B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3874A13C4CE for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0GGOtbU063686; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m0GGOs6q063328; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id m0GGOspE063327; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:54 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <20080116162454.GA63314@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <478E2544.8040206@uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <478E2544.8040206@uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No X server on Alpha? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:36:50 -0000 Quoting Nathan Whitehorn, who wrote on Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:39:48AM -0600 .. > Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? Because X on alpha has for the longest time been a bit of a nightmare. That is the short story. Combine that with the fact that most people/developers run alphas with a serial console. Wilko -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 16:46:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E876C16A41A for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C413C461 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JFBAM-0006nA-10; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:31:03 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JFBAK-0001Hb-Rs; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:31:01 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m0GGSAF1004340; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:28:10 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m0GGSAMl004339; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:28:10 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:28:09 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <20080116162809.GA4323@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Nathan Whitehorn , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <478E2544.8040206@uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <478E2544.8040206@uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No X server on Alpha? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:46:56 -0000 On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:39:48AM -0600, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? no, but gcc42 is also marked not for alpha, but builds fine on my ds10l. Perhaps you could comment this line and give it a try. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 20:56:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A5D16A417 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca) Received: from audba.admin.athabascau.ca (audba.admin.athabascau.ca [131.232.4.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0792E13C467 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca) Received: from local.admin.athabascau.ca by local.admin.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.3-x3 #31462) id <01MQ5S717Y840000UJ@local.admin.athabascau.ca> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:07:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:07:13 -0700 From: Richard Loken In-reply-to: <20080116162809.GA4323@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Sender: richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Please-Resend: yes Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No X server on Alpha? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:56:29 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? > > no, but gcc42 is also marked not for alpha, but builds fine on my ds10l. > > Perhaps you could comment this line and give it a try. I agree, force the port to install. And, by the way, most alphas run with serial terminals but not all. I am running X on my PC164 and it works just fine but my card choices were limited and I found I needed an SVGA card with LOTS of on board memory to do what could be done with any junky S3 card when running Linux on Intel. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "Anybody can be a father Athabasca University : but you have to earn Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'" ** richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 17:45:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FA116A418 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathanw@uchicago.edu) Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39D5913C461 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathanw@uchicago.edu) Received: (qmail 72636 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2008 17:19:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO trantor.home) (nwhitehorn@att.net@71.150.253.23 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2008 17:19:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: o73ug6UVM1kLE_8P6.te7DqwTTigJo3ZC1rFCvgzLMzeNzmR X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4790E006.9090100@uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:21:10 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No X server on Alpha? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:45:56 -0000 Richard Loken wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >>> Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? >> no, but gcc42 is also marked not for alpha, but builds fine on my ds10l. >> >> Perhaps you could comment this line and give it a try. > > I agree, force the port to install. And, by the way, most alphas run with > serial terminals but not all. I am running X on my PC164 and it works > just fine but my card choices were limited and I found I needed an SVGA > card with LOTS of on board memory to do what could be done with any junky > S3 card when running Linux on Intel. > So it doesn't compile at the moment, because the BSD OS-support code doesn't know to link against libio. If you persuade it to do so, the build goes through. I have yet to test whether it actually works though. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 15:57:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4C916A419 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathanw@uchicago.edu) Received: from relay01.uchicago.edu (relay01.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB5D13C43E for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathanw@uchicago.edu) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by relay01.uchicago.edu (8.13.6.20060614/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0JFg6rc021330 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:42:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (nathanw@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m0JFg58e008104 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:42:05 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: nathanw owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:42:05 -0600 (CST) From: Nathan Whitehorn To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: No X server on Alpha? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:57:56 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Richard Loken wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >>> Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? >> >> no, but gcc42 is also marked not for alpha, but builds fine on my ds10l. >> >> Perhaps you could comment this line and give it a try. > > I agree, force the port to install. And, by the way, most alphas run with > serial terminals but not all. I am running X on my PC164 and it works > just fine but my card choices were limited and I found I needed an SVGA > card with LOTS of on board memory to do what could be done with any junky > S3 card when running Linux on Intel. After forcing xorg-server to link -lio, everyone works perfectly. I even have Firefox (1.5) and pidgin running without issue. And with the recent patches to busdma for the pyxis bug, my machine no longer has machine checks every ten minutes and is completely stable. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 20:10:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4846016A417 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B1113C442 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7B71A4D80; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:39:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801191439.57407.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: Re: No X server on Alpha? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:10:55 -0000 On Saturday 19 January 2008 10:42:05 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Richard Loken wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > >>> Does anyone know why xorg-server is marked not for alpha? > >> > >> no, but gcc42 is also marked not for alpha, but builds fine on my ds10l. > >> > >> Perhaps you could comment this line and give it a try. > > > > I agree, force the port to install. And, by the way, most alphas run with > > serial terminals but not all. I am running X on my PC164 and it works > > just fine but my card choices were limited and I found I needed an SVGA > > card with LOTS of on board memory to do what could be done with any junky > > S3 card when running Linux on Intel. > > After forcing xorg-server to link -lio, everyone works perfectly. I even > have Firefox (1.5) and pidgin running without issue. And with the recent > patches to busdma for the pyxis bug, my machine no longer has machine > checks every ten minutes and is completely stable. > -Nathan Oh, good, thanks for testing it. Are you able to enable DMA with ATA devices now? -- John Baldwin