From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 20 22:24:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1216A417; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC15713C447; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from homeKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C7F405CBA; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:24:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4793CA0C.6010007@bsdforen.de> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:24:12 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071203) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <200801111917.m0BJHP8u018954@lurza.secnetix.de> <86y7av5fbt.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4788CFF9.30500@bsdforen.de> <20080118162722.GU47164@e.0x20.net> <20080119065611.GA48167@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20080119065611.GA48167@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lars Engels , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:24:16 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2008-01-18 17:27, Lars Engels wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >>> If you mean by disconnected the people who appear once and ask >>> something that can be answered by telling them to read a certain >>> chapter in the handbook or one of the 120 HowTos we have written and >>> collected (I have offered to the doc-mailing list to translate some >>> to English, but that has been ignored), >> Why do you need to ask first? Do you think that it would have been >> rejected if you presented a translated version? > > Fair point. I think that 120 'article-like' additions to our existing > article collection stand a pretty good chance of including a *lot* of > useful material. > > It would be a bit silly to reject an offer like that because it was > written by 'disconnected' people. > > Dominic, if you get some (or evel all?) of these howtos translated to > English, I offer my help to get them integrated into our doc tree. The offer still stands, so thank you. I'll be selective about what I translate and I'm just at the beginning of my exam session, so you'll need some patience before I've got anything to show off. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 20 23:08:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3826A16A468; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B625513C4D1; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0KN8bm8025585; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:08:37 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-03.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.32]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m0KN8bHw012453; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:08:37 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp185-136.adsl.forthnet.gr [62.1.222.136]) by MX-IN-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0KN8ZMA013845; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:08:37 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-03.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@freebsd.org; spf=permerror Authentication-Results: MX-IN-03.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@freebsd.org; sender-id=permerror Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0KN8ZvI003890; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:08:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m0KN8ZcT003889; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:08:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:08:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Dominic Fandrey Message-ID: <20080120230835.GA3858@kobe.laptop> References: <200801111917.m0BJHP8u018954@lurza.secnetix.de> <86y7av5fbt.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4788CFF9.30500@bsdforen.de> <20080118162722.GU47164@e.0x20.net> <20080119065611.GA48167@kobe.laptop> <4793CA0C.6010007@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4793CA0C.6010007@bsdforen.de> Cc: Lars Engels , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:08:40 -0000 On 2008-01-20 23:24, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Fair point. I think that 120 'article-like' additions to our >> existing article collection stand a pretty good chance of including a >> *lot* of useful material. >> >> It would be a bit silly to reject an offer like that because it was >> written by 'disconnected' people. >> >> Dominic, if you get some (or evel all?) of these howtos translated to >> English, I offer my help to get them integrated into our doc tree. > > The offer still stands, so thank you. I'll be selective about what I > translate and I'm just at the beginning of my exam session, so you'll > need some patience before I've got anything to show off. Excellent! There's no rush. Please take your time. I just wanted to make it clear that if you start pushing translated material our way, I will be here to help. Cheers, Giorgos