From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 02:08:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F33D106564A; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sippysoft.com (gk1.360sip.com [72.236.70.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DEF8FC18; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.9] ([204.244.149.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by sippysoft.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7O1q8d5030846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:52:07 -0700 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Sippy Software, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kmacy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway , freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:08:44 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > Is there a summary of the open issues somewhere? There are no sun4v > PRs open. http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/sun4v effectively hasn't > been touched since November 2006 and suggests that the only critical > issue is lack of serial port support. There is a better interpretation, which is that the only critical issue is lack of real users for this port, not lack of serial port support :). -Maxim From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:00:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF21065676; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837488FC08; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 79CF18C07F; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:40:55 -0500 To: Maxim Sobolev Message-ID: <20080824034055.GB12515@soaustin.net> References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kmacy@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway , freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:00:42 -0000 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 06:52:07PM -0700, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > There is a better interpretation, which is that the only critical issue > is lack of real users for this port, not lack of serial port support :). My understanding is the the port is in a pre-alpha state due to unfinished work in the kernel, so expecting there to be any userbase is premature. All of our 'new' architectures which are in this state have so few non- developer users that there is hardly any reason to submit PRs. AFAICT the active developers already know what's missing :-) Our implementation of GNATS barely serves us as a problem report system; it fails almost completely as a system for listing missing features. We would need to have something like that to track the status of the non- Tier-1 ports. (I used to maintain a table of how feature-complete the various ports are, but it is now way out of date.) mcl From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:02:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837FE1065673 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F198FC14 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1014434fgb.35 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FbR9LnBx4r9WCDAz92lLNz10AhdDhg/SeWR+Y4n02xs=; b=Vl2O6YIjOaKHreQbezujfAxZp49hC78AC5oTXVAX2J3QjAIwh9tdwuQj2rocmrL8QS eXYssdA9G01SZBD6nJF6o9hClBSjozCk1IJCsKVcerwKCv2pINFEVIZXq4i4mkIoyUQc FDO5yJupYzJtVWXPjpmHfEB9X0cFwkkphrZC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ovDvLrcGMIjGUumSYqWeuAgz7s7IvfUvh+1r0U/+1XHW4f5EUx0Zwtb2K1gX1ZcMs9 0Q8dvFpkbq6l/mteufPOf3tIRkznbf9u9+JAKSP179J90QBH69bK13PAT1wRV9CTGy0Q buSZA+pPX+J6UPKfBJXKKJeGNETFyIumD70G8= Received: by 10.86.63.19 with SMTP id l19mr2163446fga.77.1219549169284; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.62.14 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:39:29 -0700 From: "Garrett Cooper" To: "Maxim Sobolev" In-Reply-To: <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, kmacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:02:09 -0000 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Peter Jeremy wrote: >> >> Is there a summary of the open issues somewhere? There are no sun4v >> PRs open. http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/sun4v effectively hasn't >> been touched since November 2006 and suggests that the only critical >> issue is lack of serial port support. > > There is a better interpretation, which is that the only critical issue is > lack of real users for this port, not lack of serial port support :). > > -Maxim Maybe some time should be spent looking at stuff from NetBSD to see whether or not they've solved some already critical porting pieces that FreeBSD lacks in this architecture? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:23:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30DE1065674; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B1C8FC1A; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7O4Nd6b006451 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:23:40 +1000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7O4NdR1055219; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:23:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m7O4NdNr055218; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:23:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:23:39 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, kmacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0UhZIN3Sa23/ILEd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080824034055.GB12515@soaustin.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:23:43 -0000 --0UhZIN3Sa23/ILEd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Aug-23 22:40:55 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: >My understanding is the the port is in a pre-alpha state due to unfinished >work in the kernel, so expecting there to be any userbase is premature. Except that the wiki gives a far more optimistic picture. >All of our 'new' architectures which are in this state have so few non- >developer users that there is hardly any reason to submit PRs. AFAICT >the active developers already know what's missing :-) That makes it very difficult for someone outside that group to come up to speed. I can't find anything in the freebsd-sun4v archvies. I was hoping that there would be a list somewhere of what state various subsystems were in and what remained to be done. wiki.freebsd.org sounds like the ideal place for this. On 2008-Aug-23 20:39:29 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >Maybe some time should be spent looking at stuff from NetBSD to see >whether or not they've solved some already critical porting pieces >that FreeBSD lacks in this architecture? I can't find anything that suggests NetBSD runs on sun4v. Their sparc64 port only covers the US-I/II families and there's no mention of sun4v. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --0UhZIN3Sa23/ILEd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiw4ksACgkQ/opHv/APuIfCKQCgkJgMnkua99IkNkpX4C+iHiaB GFQAmQH4EbznLy5sf/McyCpJG1u1Xo1N =A59I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0UhZIN3Sa23/ILEd-- From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:39:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91A61065671 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF8F8FC13 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1838937rvf.43 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=7H1UD66pqfwQAkv4fnW4Ygpc6TIEI3yfXfRUJ/CMg+c=; b=ATj+xjfnaMFTwLFulDo7sxpM9eF/mdUxM0GidtIi2dzYxs2kEyNFjU/o4wGI4sfH+A +961j9XRdC2aCizyg1m3RCOQU+B9dsDcklVB0SVfikhe03URYcCZSf6+ACBcH9hKgZqT OkgqU0711yCPFzjKSJcVQcUk6TSjEhl4/kI3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bIXtUm5NIHiSwOS9Bt2rGQw3E9UBgGW2lhOmGWzpn/7IKGhvrW2bZMMy6JahfX9b4a oVqIG5KZPWl3Xi5DC4qp00EJ6pWb7gOX4UBPh3Igm2m9EYYypRez4Mba32liTlIXlg/i rLqRJBqdDjMYxLdtYsfSSraEV0BfCptJ5xR28= Received: by 10.141.145.11 with SMTP id x11mr1405902rvn.215.1219552774808; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.101.21 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90808232139k76f8091bw34aa0f9b71437023@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:39:34 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" Sender: mat.macy@gmail.com To: "Peter Jeremy" In-Reply-To: <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> <20080824034055.GB12515@soaustin.net> <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 00e31adbbaeba537 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:39:36 -0000 Hi Peter, There really isn't any magic to bringing up a port. You compile it, install it, and then run it until it breaks. Once it breaks you spend a lot of time instrumenting the code to track down what went wrong. Then, depending on the amount of technical insight you have in to the issue, you go through a number of iterations until it is fixed. Fixing the pmap issue is "just" (notice the quotes) a matter of tracking down the missing TLB shootdowns. For anyone who chooses pick this up it will be very educational. It will also be very time consuming. -Kip On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Aug-23 22:40:55 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: >>My understanding is the the port is in a pre-alpha state due to unfinished >>work in the kernel, so expecting there to be any userbase is premature. > > Except that the wiki gives a far more optimistic picture. > >>All of our 'new' architectures which are in this state have so few non- >>developer users that there is hardly any reason to submit PRs. AFAICT >>the active developers already know what's missing :-) > > That makes it very difficult for someone outside that group to come up > to speed. I can't find anything in the freebsd-sun4v archvies. I was > hoping that there would be a list somewhere of what state various > subsystems were in and what remained to be done. wiki.freebsd.org > sounds like the ideal place for this. > > On 2008-Aug-23 20:39:29 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>Maybe some time should be spent looking at stuff from NetBSD to see >>whether or not they've solved some already critical porting pieces >>that FreeBSD lacks in this architecture? > > I can't find anything that suggests NetBSD runs on sun4v. Their sparc64 > port only covers the US-I/II families and there's no mention of sun4v. > > -- > Peter Jeremy > Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement > an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. > From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:46:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31DA1065670; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B478FC16; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY138-W49 ([64.4.49.84]) by bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:34:01 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [217.22.88.121] From: Sevan / Venture37 To: Peter Jeremy , , , , , Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:34:00 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2008 04:34:01.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1D288E0:01C905A2] Cc: Subject: RE: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:46:00 -0000 > I can't find anything that suggests NetBSD runs on sun4v. Their sparc64 > port only covers the US-I/II families and there's no mention of sun4v. OpenBSD/sparc64 supports the sun4v architecture & has done for a while. _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg=92s & Live Search=20 http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:49:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96A51065674 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785168FC1C for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1841870rvf.43 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:49:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=iskk53kQdmUP+vP/cEh1OU4g1bOAl8gyNZXcMR1NmIA=; b=kJWuN60mA1Oy0ETuSxHwnEVTI7VrkdSw1/tl5P2W5JX9nNZW1MR1QwaUVKcqICyRf5 xnlloZELcp0Sz0iT90qxrq04sKyGlZM9N+TgCi6I1iOcqUgGmbCEvM5kyUGwPMe4MrCB +SvlJ57hZqlNw6/5nYScqanlII/lCDmgYDQ+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=o0G2dg1aPsbFdsGYTFMu3hARTuaWU26aSTAX53I5d1Rd5oXHeOU2vp/1yXnAHVMQy8 MGP3IAe1Auu3u1Fui9utTI97qC6GMN0l9V6keypYbq1O6Ls82MREiEHvIU/zGRwy+HYI k+DVoN042N3b3fzzTQ9UGLD+xeVRkXJIsfTF0= Received: by 10.141.107.13 with SMTP id j13mr1401881rvm.276.1219553389078; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.101.21 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90808232149t58993f49x9bbc4ac561b40e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:49:49 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" Sender: mat.macy@gmail.com To: "Sevan / Venture37" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ed0fd8b6e2ae2a8 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:49:49 -0000 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote: > > >> I can't find anything that suggests NetBSD runs on sun4v. Their sparc64 >> port only covers the US-I/II families and there's no mention of sun4v. > > OpenBSD/sparc64 supports the sun4v architecture & has done for a while. > Heh. The bugs that FreeBSD exhibits on sun4v won't be hit on UP and are much less prevalent without preemption. -Kip From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 06:47:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BA11065672; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from mail.comstyle.com (speedy.comstyle.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:471::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0E88FC16; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from booyah.home.comstyle.com (toronto-hs-216-138-195-228.s-ip.magma.ca [216.138.195.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: brad) by mail.comstyle.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8E31984C7; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:46:56 -0400 From: Brad To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080824064655.GB11196@booyah.home.comstyle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-comstyle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comstyle-MailScanner-ID: B8E31984C7.0FB6F X-comstyle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comstyle-MailScanner-From: brad@comstyle.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:47:08 -0000 > I can't find anything that suggests NetBSD runs on sun4v. Their sparc64 > port only covers the US-I/II families and there's no mention of sun4v. OpenBSD/sparc64 runs UltraSPARC-T1 and UltraSPARC-T2 systems... and the com port works too. ;) In addition to UltraSPARC III, III+, IIIi, IV and Fujitsu SPARC64 V, VI, VII systems (PRIMEPOWER / Mx000). console is /virtual-devices@100/console@1 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #7: Sun Aug 24 00:01:05 MDT 2008 root@sun4v.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 34225520640 (32640MB) avail mem = 33572167680 (32016MB) mainbus0 at root: SPARC Enterprise T5120 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu2 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu3 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu4 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu5 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu6 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu7 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu8 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu9 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu10 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu11 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu12 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu13 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu14 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu15 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu16 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu17 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu18 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu19 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu20 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu21 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu22 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu23 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu24 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu25 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu26 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu27 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu28 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu29 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu30 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu31 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu32 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu33 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu34 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu35 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu36 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu37 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu38 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu39 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu40 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu41 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu42 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu43 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu44 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu45 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu46 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu47 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu48 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu49 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu50 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu51 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu52 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu53 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu54 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu55 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu56 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu57 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu58 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu59 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu60 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu61 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu62 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz cpu63 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz vbus0 at mainbus0 "flashprom" at vbus0 not configured "channel-devices" at vbus0 not configured "n2cp" at vbus0 not configured "ncp" at vbus0 not configured "random-number-generator" at vbus0 not configured vcons0 at vbus0 vrtc0 at vbus0 "niu" at mainbus0 not configured vpci0 at mainbus0: bus 2 to 18, dvma map 80000000-ffffffff pci0 at vpci0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa pci1 at ppb0 bus 3 ppb1 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa pci2 at ppb1 bus 4 ppb2 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad pci3 at ppb2 bus 5 ppb3 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad pci4 at ppb3 bus 6 ppb4 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8112" rev 0xaa pci5 at ppb4 bus 7 ohci0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "NEC USB" rev 0x43: ivec 0x16, version 1.0 ohci1 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 "NEC USB" rev 0x43: ivec 0x17, version 1.0 ehci0 at pci5 dev 0 function 2 "NEC USB" rev 0x04: ivec 0x14 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "NEC EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb5 at pci3 dev 2 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad pci6 at ppb5 bus 8 em0 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x17, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c6 em1 at pci6 dev 0 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x14, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c7 ppb6 at pci3 dev 3 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad pci7 at ppb6 bus 9 em2 at pci7 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x14, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c8 em3 at pci7 dev 0 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x15, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c9 ppb7 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa pci8 at ppb7 bus 10 mpi0 at pci8 dev 0 function 0 "Symbios Logic SAS1068E" rev 0x02: ivec 0x16 scsibus0 at mpi0: 112 targets, initiator 112 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 140009MB, 14089 cyl, 24 head, 848 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 286739329 sec total sd1 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd1: 140009MB, 14089 cyl, 24 head, 848 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 286739329 sec total ppb8 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa pci9 at ppb8 bus 11 ppb9 at pci9 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa pci10 at ppb9 bus 12 ppb10 at pci10 dev 1 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x16 pci11 at ppb10 bus 13 ppb11 at pci10 dev 2 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x14 pci12 at ppb11 bus 14 ppb12 at pci10 dev 8 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x14 pci13 at ppb12 bus 15 ppb13 at pci10 dev 9 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x16 pci14 at ppb13 bus 16 ppb14 at pci10 dev 10 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x14 pci15 at ppb14 bus 17 ppb15 at pci1 dev 9 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x16 pci16 at ppb15 bus 18 "pci-performance-counters" at mainbus0 not configured ebus0 at mainbus0 com0 at ebus0 addr ca0000-ca0007 ivec 0x13: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo umass0 at uhub0 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Texas Instruments Incorporated 6250 FW: 03.05.02.22.562AD423" rev 2.00/2.00 addr 2 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0 cd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SCSI0 5/cdrom removable uhub3 at uhub0 port 4 "Cypress Semiconductor USB2 Hub" rev 2.00/0.0b addr 3 softraid0 at root bootpath: /pci@0,0/pci@0,0/pci@2,0/scsi@0,0/disk@0,0 root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 06:48:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD0F106566C for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867D78FC18 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1874988rvf.43 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KpEmcYdCvjmu5NeK7FYlFJL4lrGDDaOhhVJQWkst3a0=; b=J8BtbTiJfjiMErN6MvOBOkR9P602TGRjHKi2vMZ6MAXJBj0eA+eNLXTOEQNgDiwuYF 4xIHG5UfBSlSgUN2K4JXwnGmgTRwvLIGDZNlYHcgbFhIHpaL3z6uEx6kRDnt70MUJm66 WcE53qJr+DDkrh3q1Avl1X+Ru0smOLQrcSNiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=J0GVddRerZncQTwaNzUKNRfRZ03rfNNpLKTuLS9mGaXi9LE8bX88/XaTrBoLHuS0YG u8QFM1sShWPZJ7Pv123N3U875cSeLgzm1qnWN1ygSiT58k5F7fetT9koTTsTLv5j6BHU JOQg1riAUz92Te2OUUxULs5R/sBKGh0oyDMxQ= Received: by 10.141.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr1459684rvj.35.1219560523042; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.101.21 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90808232348v5f423e31i31c25c8c226291e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:48:42 -0700 From: "Matthew Macy" To: Brad In-Reply-To: <20080824064655.GB11196@booyah.home.comstyle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080824064655.GB11196@booyah.home.comstyle.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:48:43 -0000 How much faster is a make -j32 than a make -j1? -Kip On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Brad wrote: >> I can't find anything that suggests NetBSD runs on sun4v. Their sparc64 >> port only covers the US-I/II families and there's no mention of sun4v. > > OpenBSD/sparc64 runs UltraSPARC-T1 and UltraSPARC-T2 systems... and the > com port works too. ;) > > In addition to UltraSPARC III, III+, IIIi, IV and Fujitsu SPARC64 V, VI, VII > systems (PRIMEPOWER / Mx000). > > > console is /virtual-devices@100/console@1 > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org > > OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #7: Sun Aug 24 00:01:05 MDT 2008 > root@sun4v.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP > real mem = 34225520640 (32640MB) > avail mem = 33572167680 (32016MB) > mainbus0 at root: SPARC Enterprise T5120 > cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu2 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu3 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu4 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu5 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu6 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu7 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu8 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu9 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu10 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu11 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu12 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu13 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu14 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu15 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu16 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu17 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu18 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu19 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu20 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu21 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu22 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu23 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu24 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu25 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu26 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu27 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu28 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu29 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu30 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu31 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu32 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu33 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu34 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu35 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu36 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu37 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu38 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu39 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu40 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu41 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu42 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu43 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu44 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu45 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu46 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu47 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu48 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu49 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu50 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu51 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu52 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu53 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu54 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu55 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu56 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu57 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu58 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu59 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu60 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu61 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu62 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > cpu63 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1165.379 MHz > vbus0 at mainbus0 > "flashprom" at vbus0 not configured > "channel-devices" at vbus0 not configured > "n2cp" at vbus0 not configured > "ncp" at vbus0 not configured > "random-number-generator" at vbus0 not configured > vcons0 at vbus0 > vrtc0 at vbus0 > "niu" at mainbus0 not configured > vpci0 at mainbus0: bus 2 to 18, dvma map 80000000-ffffffff > pci0 at vpci0 > ppb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa > pci1 at ppb0 bus 3 > ppb1 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa > pci2 at ppb1 bus 4 > ppb2 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad > pci3 at ppb2 bus 5 > ppb3 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad > pci4 at ppb3 bus 6 > ppb4 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8112" rev 0xaa > pci5 at ppb4 bus 7 > ohci0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "NEC USB" rev 0x43: ivec 0x16, version 1.0 > ohci1 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 "NEC USB" rev 0x43: ivec 0x17, version 1.0 > ehci0 at pci5 dev 0 function 2 "NEC USB" rev 0x04: ivec 0x14 > usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 > uhub0 at usb0 "NEC EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 > usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1 at usb1 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 > usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2 at usb2 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 > ppb5 at pci3 dev 2 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad > pci6 at ppb5 bus 8 > em0 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x17, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c6 > em1 at pci6 dev 0 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x14, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c7 > ppb6 at pci3 dev 3 function 0 "PLX PEX 8517" rev 0xad > pci7 at ppb6 bus 9 > em2 at pci7 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x14, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c8 > em3 at pci7 dev 0 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB)" rev 0x06: ivec 0x15, address 00:14:4f:d4:d2:c9 > ppb7 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa > pci8 at ppb7 bus 10 > mpi0 at pci8 dev 0 function 0 "Symbios Logic SAS1068E" rev 0x02: ivec 0x16 > scsibus0 at mpi0: 112 targets, initiator 112 > sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed > sd0: 140009MB, 14089 cyl, 24 head, 848 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 286739329 sec total > sd1 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed > sd1: 140009MB, 14089 cyl, 24 head, 848 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 286739329 sec total > ppb8 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa > pci9 at ppb8 bus 11 > ppb9 at pci9 dev 0 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa > pci10 at ppb9 bus 12 > ppb10 at pci10 dev 1 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x16 > pci11 at ppb10 bus 13 > ppb11 at pci10 dev 2 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x14 > pci12 at ppb11 bus 14 > ppb12 at pci10 dev 8 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x14 > pci13 at ppb12 bus 15 > ppb13 at pci10 dev 9 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x16 > pci14 at ppb13 bus 16 > ppb14 at pci10 dev 10 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x14 > pci15 at ppb14 bus 17 > ppb15 at pci1 dev 9 function 0 "PLX PEX 8533" rev 0xaa: ivec 0x16 > pci16 at ppb15 bus 18 > "pci-performance-counters" at mainbus0 not configured > ebus0 at mainbus0 > com0 at ebus0 addr ca0000-ca0007 ivec 0x13: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo > umass0 at uhub0 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Texas Instruments Incorporated 6250 FW: 03.05.02.22.562AD423" rev 2.00/2.00 addr 2 > umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only > scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0 > cd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SCSI0 5/cdrom removable > uhub3 at uhub0 port 4 "Cypress Semiconductor USB2 Hub" rev 2.00/0.0b addr 3 > softraid0 at root > bootpath: /pci@0,0/pci@0,0/pci@2,0/scsi@0,0/disk@0,0 > root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 17:46:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F492106566B; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FEF8FC15; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY138-W22 ([64.4.49.57]) by bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:46:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [217.22.88.121] From: Sevan / Venture37 To: Matthew Macy , Brad Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:46:52 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3c1674c90808232348v5f423e31i31c25c8c226291e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080824064655.GB11196@booyah.home.comstyle.com> <3c1674c90808232348v5f423e31i31c25c8c226291e7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2008 17:46:53.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[64B03510:01C90611] Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: RE: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:46:53 -0000 Matthew & Brad=2C lets not turn this thread into a cock fight ey! =3B) _________________________________________________________________ Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda & Live Search=A0=A0 and=A0=A0 100= =92s of Kung Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 21:35:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06811065672; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sippysoft.com (gk1.360sip.com [72.236.70.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B178FC15; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.9] ([204.244.149.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by sippysoft.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7PLZEDT061265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48B3259E.8070601@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:26 -0700 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Sippy Software, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kmacy@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway , freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:18 -0000 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Peter Jeremy wrote: >> Is there a summary of the open issues somewhere? There are no sun4v >> PRs open. http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/sun4v effectively hasn't >> been touched since November 2006 and suggests that the only critical >> issue is lack of serial port support. > > There is a better interpretation, which is that the only critical issue > is lack of real users for this port, not lack of serial port support :). Just to clarify a bit - my point was not to suggest that port is irrelevant, or that the FreeBSD should not go there. In fact I believe on contrary from what I know sun4v is good as a testbed for the future of multi-processor architectures today - definitely we will see ever increasing number of cores in commodity Intel/AMD servers in few years from now. So that in that sense sun4v work is very important if the FreeBSD project wants to keep ahead of things, not catching-up later. However, realistically immaturity of the port as well as scarcity of hardware limits number of users severely. Therefore, absence of PRs should not be surprising to anyone. -Maxim From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 11:49:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180371065690; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4EB8FC20; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7SBnhoQ014014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:49:43 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7SBng4M078768; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:49:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m7SBngdd078767; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:49:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:49:42 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Kip Macy Message-ID: <20080828114942.GN33600@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> <20080824034055.GB12515@soaustin.net> <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <3c1674c90808232139k76f8091bw34aa0f9b71437023@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3c1674c90808232139k76f8091bw34aa0f9b71437023@mail.gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:49:46 -0000 --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Aug-23 21:39:34 -0700, Kip Macy wrote: >There really isn't any magic to bringing up a port. You compile it, >install it, and then run it until it breaks. Once it breaks you spend >a lot of time instrumenting the code to track down what went wrong. About what I expected. I've just bumped into your bsdtalk interview: http://cisx1.uma.maine.edu/~wbackman/bsdtalk/bsdtalk086.mp3 This appears to give a useful overview into the sun4v port. One thing you mention is that you'd started work on a virtual network driver. How far did this get and can you point me to the code, It seems that the latest OpenBSD runs on sun4v. I haven't investigated how well supported it is. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki2kNYACgkQ/opHv/APuIf9DgCfVHEWQhXUcSc8TjlxA/EY5W/i plcAn34QjtjzFVr5g/jDlpx0wmNApoO2 =mLT6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3-- From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 22:36:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CEF1065681 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel-lucent.com.au) Received: from ausyds0105.alcatel.com.au (ausyds0105.alcatel.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF0D8FC0C for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel-lucent.com.au) Received: from pjdesk.au.alcatel-lucent.com (pjdesk.au.alcatel-lucent.com [139.188.112.16]) by ausyds0105.alcatel.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m7SM51FY002483 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:05:01 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from pjdesk.au.alcatel-lucent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pjdesk.au.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7SM51Nd092073 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:05:01 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel-lucent.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by pjdesk.au.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m7SM50dK092072 for freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:05:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel-lucent.com.au) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:05:00 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080828220500.GC65650@pjdesk.au.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> <7d6fde3d0808232039i78fadb9bu7373e1c36f4f37a1@mail.gmail.com> <20080824034055.GB12515@soaustin.net> <20080824042339.GM32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <3c1674c90808232139k76f8091bw34aa0f9b71437023@mail.gmail.com> <20080828114942.GN33600@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080828114942.GN33600@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 139.188.119.54 Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:36:44 -0000 --Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Aug-28 21:49:42 +1000, Peter Jeremy = wrote: >It seems that the latest OpenBSD runs on sun4v. I haven't investigated >how well supported it is. It boots but doesn't support virtual disk or virtual network so it doesn't help. --=20 Peter Jeremy --Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki3IQwACgkQ/opHv/APuIfe5wCeKE+WqgsBp6VtIFLRv2at8eDW E70AnjA1CkEtKogEq+9RAvCCeVcBkIJp =iAdE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y5wfsVCgeKAcINk2-- From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 08:27:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1901065679 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5618FC14 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7U8R3do001624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:27:04 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7U8R3vO009895 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:27:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m7U8R2ZO009894 for freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:27:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:27:02 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080830082702.GL86609@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lHGcFxmlz1yfXmOs" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: sun4v status X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:27:06 -0000 --lHGcFxmlz1yfXmOs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to get up to speed with sun4v. Some questions: 1) Is there a more recent snapshot than 7.0-20061112-SNAP-sun4v-disc1.iso 2) Other than the pmap issues (missing TLB shootdowns) what are the critical issues that need to be addressed? 3) What state is the virtual network driver in? I've seen several suggestions that it was being worked on but can't find it in the CVS repo. The virtual network driver is a critical issue for me because I don't have a T2000 or T5xxx that I can dedicate to FreeBSD. --=20 Peter Jeremy --lHGcFxmlz1yfXmOs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki5BFYACgkQ/opHv/APuIcD0gCggcwf5x96wFveEscJC8qB6Eft p4AAn232yFJWxA4A+u0+DjPdNyTVpFiY =3Qsr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lHGcFxmlz1yfXmOs-- From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 08:57:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67633106567B for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A864F8FC13; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48B90B68.80802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:57:12 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <20080830082702.GL86609@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20080830082702.GL86609@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v status X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:57:16 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > I'm trying to get up to speed with sun4v. Some questions: > 1) Is there a more recent snapshot than 7.0-20061112-SNAP-sun4v-disc1.iso I don't know if there is a newer ISO image. You can cross-build a world and install that though, if you can get it on there (netboot, live CD, etc). > 2) Other than the pmap issues (missing TLB shootdowns) what are the > critical issues that need to be addressed? There might be (probably are) others but it's hard to say until the system is minimally usable. > 3) What state is the virtual network driver in? I've seen several > suggestions that it was being worked on but can't find it in the > CVS repo. I suspect only Kip knows about this. Kris From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 21:18:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BB8106566B for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5028FC19 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1831173rvf.43 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nXTO6SQ3t0jW2HoKciflPBRLL/9jyZbmZTrcFfvk1QI=; b=rZBuWQ+k+d+0TkvXlUOMiout3853hU2um/8x3qW5CK4I0lfBHgV/vnf6VQIrEAArmO OEMVIwvUPjc2j/D7f4PU3FgNqNQOVQ/pi+paM1lKYCL9+jV8PaJs2zIL5VFQiVGK2ig7 fHorgPcsHp8qsjg5WNoj3smKQ/ZX3DNZcpMt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xxVyKsemjhT5LNpE1GVU/MGzPSxU7w3vVXPKPn8tvDwDbHW6idQNnsE/rDGhSNh6J3 qq7ikoO5XEt0icaYMYItd/c73gxe0r2dAfvd+E+5GSisOZMUbRizj3Zh0qOr77Xad74t IHztqRU8KVrAKl1RoD5LZkeAjAsPn3aSpa/Zg= Received: by 10.140.164.1 with SMTP id m1mr2352254rve.266.1220131083396; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.49.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90808301418n4fa0691fo30d61cc3e6595862@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:18:03 -0700 From: "Matthew Macy" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <48B90B68.80802@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080830082702.GL86609@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B90B68.80802@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v status X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:18:04 -0000 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Peter Jeremy wrote: >> >> I'm trying to get up to speed with sun4v. Some questions: >> 1) Is there a more recent snapshot than 7.0-20061112-SNAP-sun4v-disc1.iso > > I don't know if there is a newer ISO image. You can cross-build a world and > install that though, if you can get it on there (netboot, live CD, etc). Just cross-build and netboot, you'll need to do it anyway. >> 2) Other than the pmap issues (missing TLB shootdowns) what are the >> critical issues that need to be addressed? > > There might be (probably are) others but it's hard to say until the system > is minimally usable. This is the only showstopper that I know of. It can take up to a couple of hours to hit with SCHED_4BSD. The moment you turn on PREEMPTION you'll start seeing seg faults at bootup. >> 3) What state is the virtual network driver in? I've seen several >> suggestions that it was being worked on but can't find it in the >> CVS repo. > All I had really working was the initial bits for registering resources and finding the device handle. I haven't looked at the Linux sources, but they may be a good reference. I can say from having looked that the Solaris sources are *not* a good reference except perhaps to clarify some hypervisor API issues that are ambiguous in the documentation. -Kip From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 21:21:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A781065684 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD178FC19 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY138-W9 ([64.4.49.44]) by bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:21:56 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [217.22.94.73] From: Sevan / Venture37 To: Matthew Macy , Kris Kennaway Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:21:55 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3c1674c90808301418n4fa0691fo30d61cc3e6595862@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080830082702.GL86609@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B90B68.80802@FreeBSD.org> <3c1674c90808301418n4fa0691fo30d61cc3e6595862@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2008 21:21:56.0144 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E066B00:01C90AE6] Cc: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: RE: sun4v status X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:21:56 -0000 the system would flip out when there was even the slightest load on the dis= k with mpt0: queue full event messages=2C tweaking the system settings with camcontrol reduced the frequency of this = but resulted in dataloss when it did occur http://www.zulustips.com/2007/09/06/mpt0-queue-full-event-on-dell-sas-5ir.h= tml#more-53 _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg=92s & Live Search=20 http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 21:25:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4FC10656EE for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1938FC2B for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1833408rvf.43 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=PM7jtcgJ/fEh7YZbE2OIBKeCjq7cf92yYJdHctykiwo=; b=KVU8WIHTWVOjeqgCim3XGzDn+gB0soFATMUQoGTeB02bSLKTi1bOijsxeWtLHCiR1v GCWRxFJpB+SU40WKZYuKCfB+zh6xK0VkhigITwBKfqFdCueAKzJhYvtEjTLt5mWD2oR3 6U8O9VYKRD/eBWuDce+M8dHiFRqRltP1ihUaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Si+5DDruE8/55lHFcLc6ljjZ0hS6Vx7+3VxclvTt5x1XBcOZKI9keWibEB3/Etr+zG q4sHw15PD0NzAKmOn/UWZJ4bNEELNVbEPohbn0jdKPEAdboVNz/chMTdCR+uuoGGgrHK bAUlgSRf6ikh8zNE8+8J24Gq1D2yZ6zxxYcWc= Received: by 10.141.205.10 with SMTP id h10mr2387483rvq.54.1220131543389; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.49.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90808301425i726df580qf1e1e1a56d046ee0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:25:43 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" Sender: mat.macy@gmail.com To: "Sevan / Venture37" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080830082702.GL86609@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B90B68.80802@FreeBSD.org> <3c1674c90808301418n4fa0691fo30d61cc3e6595862@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 44228bb5b9f3b846 Cc: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun4v status X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:25:44 -0000 Hrrm, that is a new problem (in the sense that it didn't happen back when I was working on it). Sounds like a scheduling issue. -Kip On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote: > > the system would flip out when there was even the slightest load on the disk with mpt0: queue full event messages, > tweaking the system settings with camcontrol reduced the frequency of this but resulted in dataloss when it did occur > > http://www.zulustips.com/2007/09/06/mpt0-queue-full-event-on-dell-sas-5ir.html#more-53 > _________________________________________________________________ > Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sun4v > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sun4v-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >