From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 11:06:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A118E106566C for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7643C8FC13 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBEB6vN4075972 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:57 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBEB6uBV075970 for freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:56 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:56 GMT Message-Id: <200912141106.nBEB6uBV075970@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:57 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ia64/113102 ia64 [MCA] Multiple records can have the same sequence numb 1 problem total. From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 11:55:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D0A1065672 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654658FC19 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NK9WR-00029U-Hg; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:32 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NK9WQ-0001qJ-Fp; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBEBtQH9046933; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:26 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBEBtPXE046932; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:25 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:25 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Mark Linimon , xcllnt@mac.com, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091214115525.GA46897@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091211164310.GA3821@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091211195425.GA13576@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091211195425.GA13576@lonesome.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Subject: ia64 panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:55:35 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 01:54:25PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > > fwiw, if you didn't see my comment on IRC: the ia64 machine is down. yes, it panicked. I was doing a buildword : - - - - - - - - - - Prior Console Output - - - - - - - - - - mspace_exit(0xe00000001197a700, 0xe0000000183e1820, 0x1, 0xe000000011971288, 0xe000000004977ae8) at vmspace_exit+0x150 exit1(0xe00000001197a700, 0x0) at exit1+0xae0 sys_exit(0xe00000001197a700, 0xa0000000c6abb4e8, 0xe0000000047c83e0, 0x58f) at sys_exit+0x30 syscall(0xa0000000c6abb400, 0x1, 0x2000000000b13520, 0xe00000001197a700, 0x1, 0xe000000011971120, 0xe000000004916a90, 0xa0000000c6abb4e8) at syscall+0x3e0 epc_syscall_return() at epc_syscall_return KDB: enter: panic [thread pid 35612 tid 100123 ] Stopped at kdb_enter+0x92: [I2] addl r14=0xffffffffffe1fb88,gp ;; db> - - - - - - - - - - - - Live Console - - - - - - - - - - - - db> bt Tracing pid 35612 tid 100123 td 0xe00000001197a700 kdb_enter(0xe00000000481d1a8, 0xe00000000481d1a8, 0xe000000004371020, 0x793) at kdb_enter+0x92 panic(0xe000000004856400, 0xe000000000214858, 0x0, 0xe0000000048563e0) at panic+0x2f0 pmap_invalidate_page(0xe0000000183e1828, 0x2000000040bb8000, 0xe0000000047c03a0) at pmap_invalidate_page+0x70 pmap_remove_pte(0xe0000000183e1828, 0xe0000000189e76e0, 0x2000000040bb8000, 0xe000000011c21a40, 0x1) at pmap_remove_pte+0xa0 pmap_remove_pages(0xe000000018858ae0, 0xe000000011c21a40, 0x20000000000000) at pmap_remove_pages+0x1b0 vmspace_exit(0xe00000001197a700, 0xe0000000183e1820, 0x1, 0xe000000011971288, 0xe000000004977ae8) at vmspace_exit+0x150 exit1(0xe00000001197a700, 0x0) at exit1+0xae0 sys_exit(0xe00000001197a700, 0xa0000000c6abb4e8, 0xe0000000047c83e0, 0x58f) at sys_exit+0x30 syscall(0xa0000000c6abb400, 0x1, 0x2000000000b13520, 0xe00000001197a700, 0x1, 0xe000000011971120, 0xe000000004916a90, 0xa0000000c6abb4e8) at syscall+0x3e0 epc_syscall_return() at epc_syscall_return db> db> panic panic: from debugger cpuid = 1 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self(0xe0000000040f6cd0) at db_trace_self+32 db_trace_self_wrapper(0xe0000000043d67e0) at db_trace_self_wrapper+112 kdb_backtrace(0xe00000000496bff8, 0xe000000004382240, 0x30a, 0xe000000004b4c490) at kdb_backtrace+192 mi_switch(0x100, 0x0, 0xe00000001197a700, 0xe0000000043b73a0) at mi_switch+624 sched_bind(0xe00000001197a700, 0x0, 0xe00000001197aa48, 0xe00000000436f9b0) at sched_bind+272 boot(0x104, 0xe00000000481cff0, 0xe000000004371070, 0x793) at boot+112 panic(0xe0000000047ed910) at panic+848 db_panic(0xe0000000040f2250, 0x40c, 0xffffffffffffffff) at db_panic+64 db_command(0xe00000000496b128, 0x0, 0x1) at db_command+1872 db_command_loop(0xe00000000496b150, 0xe00000000496b120, 0xe00000000496b128, 0xe0000000047ed9c0) at db_command_loop+240 db_trap(0xb, 0xe0000000043d6190) at db_trap+688 kdb_trap(0xb, 0x0, 0xa0000000c6abb000, 0x1, 0x10080a6010, 0xe0000000047c9570, 0x716, 0xe000000004b4c490) at kdb_trap+512 trap(0xb, 0xa0000000c6abb000) at trap+1984 ivt_Break_Instruction() at ivt_Break_Instruction+64 --- trapframe at 0xa0000000c6abb000 kdb_enter(0xe00000000481d1a8, 0xe00000000481d1a8, 0xe000000004371020, 0x793) at kdb_enter+160 panic(0xe000000004856400, 0xe000000000214858, 0x0, 0xe0000000048563e0) at panic+752 pmap_invalidate_page(0xe0000000183e1828, 0x2000000040bb8000, 0xe0000000047c03a0) at pmap_invalidate_page+112 pmap_remove_pte(0xe0000000183e1828, 0xe0000000189e76e0, 0x2000000040bb8000, 0xe000000011c21a40, 0x1) at pmap_remove_pte+160 pmap_remove_pages(0xe000000018858ae0, 0xe000000011c21a40, 0x20000000000000) at pmap_remove_pages+432 vmspace_exit(0xe00000001197a700, 0xe0000000183e1820, 0x1, 0xe000000011971288, 0xe000000004977ae8) at vmspace_exit+336 exit1(0xe00000001197a700, 0x0) at exit1+2784 sys_exit(0xe00000001197a700, 0xa0000000c6abb4e8, 0xe0000000047c83e0, 0x58f) at sys_exit+48 syscall(0xa0000000c6abb400, 0x1, 0x2000000000b13520, 0xe00000001197a700, 0x1, 0xe000000011971120, 0xe000000004916a90, 0xa0000000c6abb4e8) at syscall+992 epc_syscall_return() at epc_syscall_return db> somehow I didn't get a core dump: No core dumps found. I've in /etc/rc.conf: dumpdev='/dev/da1p1' dumpdir='/usr' what else am I missing? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 17:04:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7241065670; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387BA8FC0A; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NKEL9-0005Br-QE; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:15 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NKEL9-0007iq-9V; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:07 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBEH476U087337; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:07 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBEH47mv087336; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:07 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:06 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Subject: port www/libxul broken on sparc64, but builds even on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:04:16 -0000 Port www/libxul is marked as broken on sparc64. HOwever, it builds even on ia64! Could anybody comment on why this port is broken for sparc64? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 17:58:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5AA1065672; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C908FC25; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:58:41 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from ariccio-t43.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUN00KDPLXRRT30@asmtp025.mac.com>; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:58:41 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:58:39 -0800 Message-id: References: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: Anton Shterenlikht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port www/libxul broken on sparc64, but builds even on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:58:42 -0000 On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Port www/libxul is marked as broken on sparc64. > HOwever, it builds even on ia64! > Could anybody comment on why this port is broken for sparc64? Anton, Can you remove the marker from the Makefile and just build it. Let us know how it fails if it fails. Remember that most ports committers don't have access to non PC hardware (or don't have easy access to it), so they do things blind. Once a port fails to build on an architecture and no one helps out to fix it, they can only mark the port as broken. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 20:13:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AFF1065782 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from raven.customer.vol.cz (raven.customer.vol.cz [195.250.144.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592C48FC16 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.23] (r2bb217.net.upc.cz [62.245.117.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by raven.customer.vol.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBEJk30q038169; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:46:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) From: Pav Lucistnik To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZI+1G/siqbhj+Imn8XGN" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:46:03 +0100 Message-ID: <1260819963.52651.4.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 195.250.144.108 X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: raven.customer.vol.cz; Sender-ip: 62.245.117.217; Sender-helo: [192.168.0.23]; ) Cc: gecko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: port www/libxul broken on sparc64, but builds even on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:13:14 -0000 --=-ZI+1G/siqbhj+Imn8XGN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anton Shterenlikht p=ED=B9e v po 14. 12. 2009 v 17:04 +0000: > Port www/libxul is marked as broken on sparc64. > HOwever, it builds even on ia64! > Could anybody comment on why this port is broken for sparc64? Here is the relevant log http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/sparc64-errorlogs/e.7.20090622032229= /libxul-1.9.0.10.log.bz2 --=20 Pav Lucistnik On real UNIX, /usr/bin/more prints -More-. --=-ZI+1G/siqbhj+Imn8XGN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Toto je =?UTF-8?Q?digit=C3=A1ln=C4=9B?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=C4=8D=C3=A1st?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAksmlfoACgkQntdYP8FOsoK53QCguuvdsUgF+v3t69t95/xymbzj rBsAoKNgnFXxcmfd2aCdTxcweFWoL9z7 =7ap8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZI+1G/siqbhj+Imn8XGN-- From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 20:39:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366811065799; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreast-list@fgznet.ch) Received: from smtp.fgznet.ch (mail.fgznet.ch [81.92.96.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08478FC08; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from deuterium.andreas.nets (dhclient-91-190-8-131.flashcable.ch [91.190.8.131]) by smtp.fgznet.ch (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit_SMTPAUTH) with ESMTP id nBEKdfIA069043; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:39:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreast-list@fgznet.ch) Message-ID: <4B26A28D.7080801@fgznet.ch> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:39:41 +0100 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar , Anton Shterenlikht References: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 81.92.96.47 Cc: gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port www/libxul broken on sparc64, but builds even on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:39:50 -0000 On 14.12.09 18:58, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> Port www/libxul is marked as broken on sparc64. >> HOwever, it builds even on ia64! >> Could anybody comment on why this port is broken for sparc64? > > Anton, > > Can you remove the marker from the Makefile and just build it. > Let us know how it fails if it fails. > > Remember that most ports committers don't have access to non > PC hardware (or don't have easy access to it), so they do > things blind. Once a port fails to build on an architecture > and no one helps out to fix it, they can only mark the port > as broken. I think I fixed this for the upcoming libxul. See here: https://trillian.chruetertee.ch/freebsd-gecko/wiki/TODO If you need a backport for the current libxul, 1.9.0.15, to sparc64, let me know. I would not be unhappy if you can wait for the new version. But if you have a speaking reason, I might find some slots :) Regards, Andreas From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 21:02:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546EB1065800; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: from alchemy.franken.de (alchemy.franken.de [194.94.249.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD348FC0C; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alchemy.franken.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alchemy.franken.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/ALCHEMY.FRANKEN.DE) with ESMTP id nBEKgG0J079409; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:42:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: (from marius@localhost) by alchemy.franken.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBEKgGDr079408; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:42:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marius) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:42:16 +0100 From: Marius Strobl To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091214204216.GA79355@alchemy.franken.de> References: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port www/libxul broken on sparc64, but builds even on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:02:47 -0000 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 05:04:06PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Port www/libxul is marked as broken on sparc64. > HOwever, it builds even on ia64! > Could anybody comment on why this port is broken for sparc64? > See the follwing mail for a possible fix: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-sparc64/2009-November/006688.html Marius From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 14 22:14:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE281065670; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441498FC16; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NKJB7-0002df-Nd; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:14 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NKJB6-0004KI-Po; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:05 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBEME4fY001985; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:04 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBEME4mm001984; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:04 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:04 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Andreas Tobler Message-ID: <20091214221404.GB1953@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091214170406.GA87328@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B26A28D.7080801@fgznet.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B26A28D.7080801@fgznet.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port www/libxul broken on sparc64, but builds even on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:14:15 -0000 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 09:39:41PM +0100, Andreas Tobler wrote: > On 14.12.09 18:58, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > >> Port www/libxul is marked as broken on sparc64. > >> HOwever, it builds even on ia64! > >> Could anybody comment on why this port is broken for sparc64? > > > > Anton, > > > > Can you remove the marker from the Makefile and just build it. > > Let us know how it fails if it fails. > > > > Remember that most ports committers don't have access to non > > PC hardware (or don't have easy access to it), so they do > > things blind. Once a port fails to build on an architecture > > and no one helps out to fix it, they can only mark the port > > as broken. > > I think I fixed this for the upcoming libxul. See here: > https://trillian.chruetertee.ch/freebsd-gecko/wiki/TODO > > If you need a backport for the current libxul, 1.9.0.15, to sparc64, let > me know. I would not be unhappy if you can wait for the new version. > But if you have a speaking reason, I might find some slots :) excellent! many thanks for your hard work! -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 09:56:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920BD1065672 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loerner@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCA7B8FC1A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2667 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2009 09:29:50 -0000 Received: from 212.185.199.2 by www024.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:29:49 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:29:49 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Marc_L=F6rner=22?= Message-ID: <20091215092949.304680@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #60932973 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18bW0ZVEEAbr0axC3dmMMhmElu/K58+W2a1q8B/1k Dd+qBiiLNabWoj6tAFGTnFTzCwAKqvwLhmtw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: OmEUf2Y/TXsuTR6nwGc527JCRzdyMkMt X-FuHaFi: 0.74 Subject: crosscompiled gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:56:31 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to build a crosscompiled GCC for compiling and linking code to run on 8.0-Release. For 7.0 I got it working after setting some configure options. Now, as it seems, something was changed/patched in gcc from 7.0 to 8.0. So does anybody know where to tweak/patch or what to put in configuration of original gcc 4.2.1 to make crosscompilling work for 8.0? Thanks in advance, Marc Loerner -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 15:03:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E9D1065694 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881D08FC1C for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NKYvQ-0003RS-CZ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:03:13 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NKYvP-0007im-KV; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:02:56 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBFF2t1G021776; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:02:55 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBFF2tA8021775; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:02:55 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:02:54 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091215150254.GA21739@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091215011146.GA14252@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <7AFD99EA-5641-4B4B-B906-C4B16EDF196F@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7AFD99EA-5641-4B4B-B906-C4B16EDF196F@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: Subject: Re: ia64 kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:03:14 -0000 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 05:25:48PM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > Hi Marcel > > > > Can you advise on a ia64 kernel config file > > for a portscluster node (see below). > > In particular, I don't think I need usb subsystem, do I? > > USB is not required, but why trim it down so much? > > > #options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as root device > > #options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption > > options PROCFS # Process filesystem (/proc) > > options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework > > options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler > > Overall, looks ok. > > It is better to use SCHED_4BSD. SCHED_ULE may not work > reliably at all. I worked on it before, but I don't > think I got it stable. > > As a general comment: do not stray from the path, unless > you're able and willing to deal with the problems. If > GENERIC has SCHED_4BSD while SCHED_ULE is the default > nowadays, you need to ask yourself why that is. Sure, it > can be an oversight. Then again, it may not be. > > I see you add options and make changes left and right > and it actually introduces breakages that aren't even > ia64 specific. It's just a bad configuration. You're > making things much more difficult than it already is and > I really wonder if that's such a good thing at this > time. I'd rather get things stable, no matter what the > configuration and then change options and settings and > test if it's still stable. In the end you get where you > want much faster and without all the frustration of > having to deal with breakages. > > Just a thought, > > BTW: I have mine here: > http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ia64/hob/HOB Marcel, why do you build GPT support as a module, and not straight in the kernel? I thought you need GPT support for ia64 in any case. Am I wrong? In particular, if one uses GEOM_MIRROR for root partition, I imagine GPT module must be loaded prior to mirror creation. Am I right? thank you -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 16:26:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20BB1065676 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD788FC46 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:26:08 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from macbook-pro.lan.xcllnt.net (mail.xcllnt.net [75.101.29.67]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUP004DUCBJFE90@asmtp030.mac.com> for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: <20091215150254.GA21739@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:26:07 -0800 Message-id: <3DDCCE88-C254-4154-B8AC-69CF4A8A8C60@mac.com> References: <20091215011146.GA14252@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <7AFD99EA-5641-4B4B-B906-C4B16EDF196F@mac.com> <20091215150254.GA21739@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: Anton Shterenlikht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ia64 kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:26:09 -0000 On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> BTW: I have mine here: >> http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ia64/hob/HOB > > Marcel, why do you build GPT support as a module, > and not straight in the kernel? I thought you need > GPT support for ia64 in any case. Am I wrong? I'm a developer. I wrote GEOM_PART. Building them all by default and having them as modules helps me test the various partitioning schemes. If you look closely, you'll see "device scc" in my config as well. There's no need for it to be there, because I don't have the hardware in my ia64 box. But, I wrote the driver and this way I keep it included when I change something in uart (which I wrote too). > In particular, if one uses GEOM_MIRROR for root > partition, I imagine GPT module must be loaded > prior to mirror creation. Am I right? Yes. Remember that modules can be loaded from the loader, prior to booting the kernel. In that sense there's virtually no difference from having them compiled-in. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 17:41:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D051106566B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA3F8FC13 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:41:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUP006L4FT7IH00@asmtp026.mac.com> for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <20091215092949.304680@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:41:31 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <9C8142DC-90CB-4BF5-8DD7-821BAA7523E2@mac.com> References: <20091215092949.304680@gmx.net> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc_L=F6rner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crosscompiled gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:41:40 -0000 On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Marc L=F6rner wrote: > Hello, > I'm trying to build a crosscompiled GCC for compiling and linking code=20= > to run on 8.0-Release. For 7.0 I got it working after setting some=20 > configure options. Hi Marc, Can you be a bit more explicit. In particular, can you state what the build, host and target "triples" are? > Now, as it seems, something was changed/patched in gcc from 7.0 to = 8.0.=20 > So does anybody know where to tweak/patch or what to put in = configuration > of original gcc 4.2.1 to make crosscompilling work for 8.0? Can you share what you did before to make it work? Maybe from the patch I can understand the problem you're trying to solve. Thanks, --=20 Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 18:15:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C961065670 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loerner@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6ECDE8FC2D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9471 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2009 18:15:31 -0000 Received: from 212.185.199.2 by www121.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:15:30 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:15:30 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Marc_L=F6rner=22?= Message-ID: <20091215181530.237770@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #60932973 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/OxgUxiUjOsgcZreTGpKr9rZEKnxv7IhnSUmZjWv 1X52DdlBAd4srbIdFrCHGU8IlrH3shVju4tw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: duAQfIglbGInUhS1zGdngexvcmZ1Zhy6 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Subject: Re: Re: crosscompiled gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:15:35 -0000 >> Hello, >> I'm trying to build a crosscompiled GCC for compiling and linking code >> to run on 8.0-Release. For 7.0 I got it working after setting some >> configure options. > >Hi Marc, > >Can you be a bit more explicit. In particular, can you state what >the build, host and target "triples" are? > target=ia64-unknown-freebsd8.0 host=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu >> Now, as it seems, something was changed/patched in gcc from 7.0 to 8.0. >> So does anybody know where to tweak/patch or what to put in configuration >> of original gcc 4.2.1 to make crosscompilling work for 8.0? > >Can you share what you did before to make it work? Maybe from the >patch I can understand the problem you're trying to solve. > For 7.0: - make sysroot directory with all headers and libraries used and put "--with-sysroot=XXX" as parameters of configure-scripts - Add "--disable-werror" to configure of binutils2.17 - Add above and "--disable-initfini-array" to configure of gcc => This worked for me, but unfortunately doesn't for 8.0. It seems compilation works, because I can run compiled kernel-objects. But for userspace programs linked to libraries I get ld-elf.so undefined symbol... errors. Maybe you have some ideas to solve this. I already tried to use gcc-source from "/usr/src/contrib/" which doesn't work, too. Regards, Marc -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 18:56:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14237106566B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021188FC14 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:56:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUP00BGNJAQLA60@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:56:50 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <20091215181530.237770@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:56:50 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <20091215181530.237770@gmx.net> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc_L=F6rner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crosscompiled gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:56:52 -0000 On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Marc L=F6rner wrote: >>> Now, as it seems, something was changed/patched in gcc from 7.0 to = 8.0.=20 >>> So does anybody know where to tweak/patch or what to put in = configuration >>> of original gcc 4.2.1 to make crosscompilling work for 8.0? >>=20 >> Can you share what you did before to make it work? Maybe from the >> patch I can understand the problem you're trying to solve. >>=20 >=20 > For 7.0:=20 > - make sysroot directory with all headers and libraries used > and put "--with-sysroot=3DXXX" as parameters of configure-scripts > - Add "--disable-werror" to configure of binutils2.17 > - Add above and "--disable-initfini-array" to configure of gcc > =3D> This worked for me, but unfortunately doesn't for 8.0. >=20 > It seems compilation works, because I can run compiled kernel-objects. > But for userspace programs linked to libraries I get ld-elf.so = undefined > symbol... errors. It seems you have it 95%-99% working. What are the undefined symbols? --=20 Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 19:05:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17D51065670 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loerner@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D1B18FC0A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18210 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2009 19:05:53 -0000 Received: from 212.185.199.2 by www054.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:05:52 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:05:52 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Marc_L=F6rner=22?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091215190552.82920@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20091215181530.237770@gmx.net> To: Marcel Moolenaar X-Authenticated: #60932973 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18XryNgL+kXf4QqHbznou5VZF8635OlS6WoJJs7kB xrsygVS5qDo0E9vaVkWzEOf/psBD1uImVU2g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: KOwUfw5pX1V6K1muzWJyGnh/SDc4NEw7 X-FuHaFi: 0.55 Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crosscompiled gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:05:59 -0000 -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:56:50 -0800 > Von: Marcel Moolenaar > An: "Marc Lörner" > CC: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org > Betreff: Re: crosscompiled gcc > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Marc Lörner wrote: > > >>> Now, as it seems, something was changed/patched in gcc from 7.0 to > 8.0. > >>> So does anybody know where to tweak/patch or what to put in > configuration > >>> of original gcc 4.2.1 to make crosscompilling work for 8.0? > >> > >> Can you share what you did before to make it work? Maybe from the > >> patch I can understand the problem you're trying to solve. > >> > > > > For 7.0: > > - make sysroot directory with all headers and libraries used > > and put "--with-sysroot=XXX" as parameters of configure-scripts > > - Add "--disable-werror" to configure of binutils2.17 > > - Add above and "--disable-initfini-array" to configure of gcc > > => This worked for me, but unfortunately doesn't for 8.0. > > > > It seems compilation works, because I can run compiled kernel-objects. > > But for userspace programs linked to libraries I get ld-elf.so undefined > > symbol... errors. > > It seems you have it 95%-99% working. What are the undefined symbols? > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /test_app: Undefined symbol "_ZNSt15basic_streambufIcSt11char_traitsIcEE7seekoffExSt12_Ios_SeekdirSt13_Ios_Openmode" Maybe something wrong with my boost-lib or libstdc++? Regards, Marc -- Preisknaller: GMX DSL Flatrate für nur 16,99 Euro/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 17 12:36:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B205106568B for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF90A8FC0A for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NLFai-0001mr-SY for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:28 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NLFai-00069O-76 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:24 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBHCaO9I001483 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:24 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBHCaNXf001482 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:23 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:23 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091217123623.GA1467@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: mer X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:29 -0000 Recently, mergemaster on ia64 offers this after installworld: *** The installed file /boot has the type "symbolic link" but the new version has the type "directory" How would you like to handle this? Use 'r' to remove /boot You will be able to install it as a "directory" Use 'i' to ignore this How to proceed? [i] I think it didn't ask this question before. Is this just a generic, non ia64 specific, question? /boot on ia64 must be a symbolic link, right? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 17 12:54:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C81106566B for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loerner@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF0798FC18 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5868 invoked by uid 0); 17 Dec 2009 12:54:21 -0000 Received: from 212.185.199.2 by www045.gmx.net with HTTP; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:54:21 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:54:22 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Marc_L=F6rner=22?= Message-ID: <20091217125422.205700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #60932973 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18yD9YGwKMyw/StRhVsFL9Wfp3QB/XdDItXvA89tT x1N13/pMZ6U3H1/7GgJBZgXLpFdn2Yqmx8Ew== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: qW1gDBI3a2AoSAn1lncyqho6OWhhaoeY X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Subject: Re: mer X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:54:24 -0000 >Recently, mergemaster on ia64 offers this after installworld: > > >*** The installed file /boot has the type "symbolic link" > but the new version has the type "directory" > > How would you like to handle this? > > Use 'r' to remove /boot > You will be able to install it as a "directory" > > Use 'i' to ignore this > > How to proceed? [i] > > >I think it didn't ask this question before. >Is this just a generic, non ia64 specific, question? >/boot on ia64 must be a symbolic link, right? This link was and is needed for ia64 for compliance with build/installkernel because ia64-kernel resides on the efi-partition. I think this was forgotten to implement for ia64's mergemaster. Regards, Marc -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 17 19:27:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44091065672 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C5A8FC0C for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:27:45 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUT003HEA1P7O20@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:27:26 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <20091217125422.205700@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:27:24 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <3A92639A-47A1-4EB8-953C-E21542E6F083@mac.com> References: <20091217125422.205700@gmx.net> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc_L=F6rner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mer X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:27:45 -0000 On Dec 17, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Marc L=F6rner wrote: >> Recently, mergemaster on ia64 offers this after installworld: >>=20 >>=20 >> *** The installed file /boot has the type "symbolic link" >> but the new version has the type "directory" >>=20 >> How would you like to handle this? >>=20 >> Use 'r' to remove /boot >> You will be able to install it as a "directory" >>=20 >> Use 'i' to ignore this >>=20 >> How to proceed? [i] >>=20 >>=20 >> I think it didn't ask this question before. >> Is this just a generic, non ia64 specific, question? >> /boot on ia64 must be a symbolic link, right? >=20 > This link was and is needed for ia64 for compliance with = build/installkernel because ia64-kernel resides on the efi-partition. >=20 > I think this was forgotten to implement for ia64's mergemaster. Correct. It's also not possible to add /boot to IGNORE_FILES for some reason. I tried that and it still complained. I guess it only works for files and not directories. --=20 Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 18 09:37:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D471065693 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loerner@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEF128FC13 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6049 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 2009 09:37:10 -0000 Received: from 212.185.199.2 by www004.gmx.net with HTTP; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:37:10 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:37:10 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Marc_L=F6rner=22?= Message-ID: <20091218093710.164940@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #60932973 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+PmP1RXTKPVKO47Bv2COb9nAhNURLVBds10XKiRs zt7hj595YoGHY4imXSIsikRPLbtmSJ/d/qsA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: IiROCgA0fW47VFeZ1mZo2AJudmllckUQ X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Subject: SGI Altix 450 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:37:13 -0000 Hello, I have an SGI Altix 450 NUMA system here and I'd like to run FreeBSD on it. So my first question has anyone done this right now? I already found wiki-page wiki.freebsd.org/ia64/BootLoader where changes/thoughts of BootLoader for NUMA support are described! So my next question is:Is there some work being done for FreeBSD running on NUMA systems? If yes, what is the status of this work? As I don't have time left this year, I will try to run BSD on my box next year and let you here about success or failures. Bye, Marc -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 18 11:54:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488C61065676 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CD38FC1A for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NLbPP-0001lw-Ps; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:54:24 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NLbPA-0000ZD-Ol; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:54:11 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBIBruma088738; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:56 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBIBrubg088737; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:56 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:56 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Marc =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F6rner?= Message-ID: <20091218115356.GA88718@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091218093710.164940@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20091218093710.164940@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SGI Altix 450 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:54:25 -0000 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:37:10AM +0100, "Marc Lörner" wrote: > Hello, > I have an SGI Altix 450 NUMA system here and I'd like to > run FreeBSD on it. > So my first question has anyone done this right now? > > I already found wiki-page wiki.freebsd.org/ia64/BootLoader where > changes/thoughts of BootLoader for NUMA support are described! > So my next question is:Is there some work being done for FreeBSD > running on NUMA systems? If yes, what is the status of this work? > > As I don't have time left this year, I will try to run > BSD on my box next year and let you here about success > or failures. wow.. this would be cool! best of luck -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 18 17:29:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847A3106566B for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729448FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:29:00 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUU00HEGZ7MAC00@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:28:34 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <20091218093710.164940@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:28:34 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <5C11E5E8-816E-4789-88FB-D4DB3E260B2C@mac.com> References: <20091218093710.164940@gmx.net> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc_L=F6rner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SGI Altix 450 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:29:00 -0000 On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Marc L=F6rner wrote: > Hello, > I have an SGI Altix 450 NUMA system here and I'd like to=20 > run FreeBSD on it. > So my first question has anyone done this right now? I'm not aware of that. > I already found wiki-page wiki.freebsd.org/ia64/BootLoader where > changes/thoughts of BootLoader for NUMA support are described! > So my next question is:Is there some work being done for FreeBSD=20 > running on NUMA systems? If yes, what is the status of this work? No real work, and the loader changes haven't been done either due to lack of "need". > As I don't have time left this year, I will try to run > BSD on my box next year and let you here about success=20 > or failures. It'll fail hard. The SGI machines typically don't have physical memory in the first 1GB, which we assume. We load the kernel at a fixed physical address and that's the first thing we need to change. --=20 Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com