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I've subscribed to this list to ask you a few questions about FreeBSD = hardware compatibility. My company here will soon buy an IBM server Express X3200 M3. Does anybody know something about its compatibility with FreeBSD 8.0? = Google seems to know nothing about it. But in particular I'm interested in the disk/raid controller. The = machine's technical details say it ships with a motherboard based on the Intel 3420 chipset. Is it supported by FreeBSD? = Is its RAID controller supported=20 (assuming that's the chipset that handles RAID)? In case the RAID controller should result unsupported, would that mean = that I can't even use the disk controller at all? Thank you in advance, Nicola= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 22:05:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04926106564A for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cowens@greatbaysoftware.com) Received: from portcityhosting.com (edge.tidalhosting.net [64.140.243.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC7C8FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([173.14.128.81]) by portcityhosting.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:05:09 -0400 X-WatchGuard-Mail-Exception: Allow Message-ID: <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:05:06 -0400 From: Charles Owens MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WatchGuard-AntiVirus: part scanned. clean action=allow X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 Subject: Re: Minute+ delay between kernel load and initialization (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:05:08 -0000 On 1/18/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Owens wrote: > Hello, > > We have a new system based on the Intel S5520 motherboard that seems to > work fine except during _every_ boot it pauses for about one minute 15 > seconds just before any kernel initialization messages appear. We see > the loader appearing to complete its work (the kernel is loaded) and > then... it sits. Once it starts up again (with usual kernel-boot > messages) it appears to boot normally (no error messages). > > This has been seen with both FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.1, using GENERIC kernels. > I'd appreciate any and all assistance in figuring this out. > > Boot output follows (happens to be from a PAE-enabled kernel) > > Thank you, > > Charles > > [truncated] An answer to this was graciously provided by Titus Manea. For details, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/144956 Charles Owens Great Bay Software, Inc. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 23:07:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B054106566B for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ACA8FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so2906250gyh.13 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jvkMTcJW5xBK9YaLamvepoZMneSUMiMbdAfPI6z5X8E=; b=BgQZ7hKg2yaLnZzOAaFMklZmsa4FJquGYJH9wPgRdsNFNrvoU/gILMNDvMu6C4DJQD 7dl28mylPVkviFiG6IxcReQPvRaUbA2N/F7sXUC0Ff8rC1ybR5tDX1Um1dLjaTqGppqR XtiG4Wq6Exz/dPZ+Dt0LbJDpgNGRGhgzL/3e8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=r94/f63IZUuo8yg0C9sspg2AFU/sZ9dSvrAma9BLtsHbgT6uM/PMNz3/nwOeZi4MXf eFh5V/+xYrolWDUvItf8coWa5i7JeHuBmz7GYTkA39GejyUDj0EC5uAuEXJmrpN/XDWA ffmXGtKiX/NmIQXw3X02x/jnSZ6yrOOoahFaw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.194.19 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:37:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> References: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:37:36 -0400 Received: by 10.100.20.3 with SMTP id 3mr14367299ant.147.1271716656853; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alexander Sack To: Charles Owens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minute+ delay between kernel load and initialization (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07:14 -0000 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Charles Owens wrote: > On 1/18/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Owens wrote: >> Hello, >> >> We have a new system based on the Intel S5520 motherboard that seems to >> work fine except during _every_ boot it pauses for about one minute 15 >> seconds just before any kernel initialization messages appear. =A0 We se= e >> the loader appearing to complete its work (the kernel is loaded) and >> then... it sits. =A0Once it starts up again (with usual kernel-boot >> messages) it appears to boot normally (no error messages). >> >> This has been seen with both FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.1, using GENERIC kernels. >> =A0I'd appreciate any and all assistance in figuring this out. >> >> Boot output follows (happens to be from a PAE-enabled kernel) >> >> Thank you, >> >> Charles >> >> > [truncated] > > An answer to this was graciously provided by Titus Manea. =A0 For details= , > see > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Di386/144956 Charles, thanks for this. I am also seeing this on a S5520UR. What was ultimately the patch fix? Just the disable hint? The jhb link is for mpt. Thanks! -aps From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 23:49:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6B1106566B for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cowens@greatbaysoftware.com) Received: from portcityhosting.com (edge.tidalhosting.net [64.140.243.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3998FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([173.14.128.81]) by portcityhosting.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:49:32 -0400 X-WatchGuard-Mail-Exception: Allow Message-ID: <4BCCEC08.3020602@greatbaysoftware.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:49:28 -0400 From: Charles Owens MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Sack References: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WatchGuard-AntiVirus: part scanned. clean action=allow X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minute+ delay between kernel load and initialization (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:49:31 -0000 On 4/19/2010 6:37 PM, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Charles Owens > wrote: > >> On 1/18/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Owens wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> We have a new system based on the Intel S5520 motherboard that seems to >>> work fine except during _every_ boot it pauses for about one minute 15 >>> seconds just before any kernel initialization messages appear. We see >>> the loader appearing to complete its work (the kernel is loaded) and >>> then... it sits. Once it starts up again (with usual kernel-boot >>> messages) it appears to boot normally (no error messages). >>> >>> This has been seen with both FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.1, using GENERIC kernels. >>> I'd appreciate any and all assistance in figuring this out. >>> >>> Boot output follows (happens to be from a PAE-enabled kernel) >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Charles >>> >>> >>> >> [truncated] >> >> An answer to this was graciously provided by Titus Manea. For details, >> see >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/144956 >> > Charles, thanks for this. I am also seeing this on a S5520UR. What > was ultimately the patch fix? Just the disable hint? The jhb link is > for mpt. > > Thanks! > Whoops!... Yes... ignore that comment with the jhb link... the preceding one regarding device.hints has the solution. -- Charles From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 08:04:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA52A1065673 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from janus@halwe.dk) Received: from wd1p.webdomain.dk (wd1p.webdomain.dk [195.249.40.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1478FC17 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com (mail-yx0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wd1p.webdomain.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEB7BE30E for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by yxe5 with SMTP id 5so3326981yxe.3 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:43:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.18 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:43:30 +0800 Received: by 10.150.119.11 with SMTP id r11mr7085667ybc.334.1271749410893; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Janus_Hallel=F8v_Wesenberg?= To: freebsd-hardware Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Status of SATA port multiplier support for VIA VX800 chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:04:55 -0000 Hi all, I am trying to find out what the status is on port multiplier support for the VIA VX800 chipset. I can see that the chipset is supported in 8.0, but I am not able to tell whether the port multiplier features are implemented. I can't test this now as I am trying to figure out what board to get for a low power NAS (I am pegged to VIA for low power and hardware encryption). Thanks, Janus From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 13:41:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C81106566C for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30BB8FC22 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64AFA46B38; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7930F8A025; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:41:49 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:13:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004200913.05426.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:41:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Charles Owens Subject: Re: Minute+ delay between kernel load and initialization (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:41:51 -0000 On Monday 19 April 2010 6:05:06 pm Charles Owens wrote: > On 1/18/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Owens wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We have a new system based on the Intel S5520 motherboard that seems to > > work fine except during _every_ boot it pauses for about one minute 15 > > seconds just before any kernel initialization messages appear. We see > > the loader appearing to complete its work (the kernel is loaded) and > > then... it sits. Once it starts up again (with usual kernel-boot > > messages) it appears to boot normally (no error messages). > > > > This has been seen with both FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.1, using GENERIC kernels. > > I'd appreciate any and all assistance in figuring this out. > > > > Boot output follows (happens to be from a PAE-enabled kernel) > > > > Thank you, > > > > Charles > > > > > [truncated] > > An answer to this was graciously provided by Titus Manea. For details, > see > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/144956 Interesting. I do not see the long delay on Nehalem machines here. Would either of you be able to debug this further? You could maybe grab TSC values at various points during the early console probe and print out the relevant deltas after cninit() returns. You could then move the TSC probe points around to pinpoint which operations are taking a long time. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 15:56:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB358106566B; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cowens@greatbaysoftware.com) Received: from portcityhosting.com (edge.tidalhosting.net [64.140.243.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632DC8FC0C; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([173.14.128.81]) by portcityhosting.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:56:37 -0400 X-WatchGuard-Mail-Exception: Allow Message-ID: <4BCDCEB2.8040407@greatbaysoftware.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:56:34 -0400 From: Charles Owens MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> <4BCCD392.2060304@greatbaysoftware.com> <201004200913.05426.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201004200913.05426.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WatchGuard-AntiVirus: part scanned. clean action=allow X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minute+ delay between kernel load and initialization (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:56:39 -0000 On 4/20/2010 9:13 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 6:05:06 pm Charles Owens wrote: > >> On 1/18/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Owens wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> We have a new system based on the Intel S5520 motherboard that seems to >>> work fine except during _every_ boot it pauses for about one minute 15 >>> seconds just before any kernel initialization messages appear. We see >>> the loader appearing to complete its work (the kernel is loaded) and >>> then... it sits. Once it starts up again (with usual kernel-boot >>> messages) it appears to boot normally (no error messages). >>> >>> This has been seen with both FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.1, using GENERIC kernels. >>> I'd appreciate any and all assistance in figuring this out. >>> >>> Boot output follows (happens to be from a PAE-enabled kernel) >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Charles >>> >>> >>> >> [truncated] >> >> An answer to this was graciously provided by Titus Manea. For details, >> see >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/144956 >> > Interesting. I do not see the long delay on Nehalem machines here. Would > either of you be able to debug this further? You could maybe grab TSC values > at various points during the early console probe and print out the relevant > deltas after cninit() returns. You could then move the TSC probe points > around to pinpoint which operations are taking a long time. > John, I'm not going to have the cycles to look at this any time soon, unfortunately. But, just in case, how does one display TSC values? We did try to enable the kernel debugger, but the delay happens _before_ the debugger prompt is available. We now think of this more as an issue seen with some particular motherboard/BIOS combinations .... initially the only thing we really had to go on was the fact that the behavior was seen on new Nehalem-based systems. Charles From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 16:03:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E52D106566B for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC688FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C659246B35; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E0E6A8A01F; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:03:20 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Charles Owens Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:02:56 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <4B5478D1.4000900@greatbaysoftware.com> <201004200913.05426.jhb@freebsd.org> <4BCDCEB2.8040407@greatbaysoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <4BCDCEB2.8040407@greatbaysoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004201202.56275.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:03:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minute+ delay between kernel load and initialization (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:03:22 -0000 On Tuesday 20 April 2010 11:56:34 am Charles Owens wrote: > On 4/20/2010 9:13 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Monday 19 April 2010 6:05:06 pm Charles Owens wrote: > > > >> On 1/18/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Owens wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> We have a new system based on the Intel S5520 motherboard that seems to > >>> work fine except during _every_ boot it pauses for about one minute 15 > >>> seconds just before any kernel initialization messages appear. We see > >>> the loader appearing to complete its work (the kernel is loaded) and > >>> then... it sits. Once it starts up again (with usual kernel-boot > >>> messages) it appears to boot normally (no error messages). > >>> > >>> This has been seen with both FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.1, using GENERIC kernels. > >>> I'd appreciate any and all assistance in figuring this out. > >>> > >>> Boot output follows (happens to be from a PAE-enabled kernel) > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> Charles > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> [truncated] > >> > >> An answer to this was graciously provided by Titus Manea. For details, > >> see > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/144956 > >> > > Interesting. I do not see the long delay on Nehalem machines here. Would > > either of you be able to debug this further? You could maybe grab TSC values > > at various points during the early console probe and print out the relevant > > deltas after cninit() returns. You could then move the TSC probe points > > around to pinpoint which operations are taking a long time. > > > > John, > > I'm not going to have the cycles to look at this any time soon, > unfortunately. But, just in case, how does one display TSC values? We > did try to enable the kernel debugger, but the delay happens _before_ > the debugger prompt is available. > > We now think of this more as an issue seen with some particular > motherboard/BIOS combinations .... initially the only thing we really > had to go on was the fact that the behavior was seen on new > Nehalem-based systems. You would have to patch the source to add various calls to rdtsc() that were saved in some sort of global array. Then, once the console was fully initialized you could print out the TSC deltas by walking the array and printing out the delta between each pair of entries. You could then move the rdtsc() calls around on subsequent tests to narrow down where the pause is happening. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 06:24:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A81106567C for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@fuckner.net) Received: from dedihh.fuckner.net (dedihh.fuckner.net [81.209.183.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CFB8FC19 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dedihh.fuckner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dedihh.fuckner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C02101AF; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:25:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fuckner.net Received: from dedihh.fuckner.net ([127.0.0.1]) by dedihh.fuckner.net (dedihh.fuckner.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id VW8Vmj-j9JGX; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:25:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fuckner2.delnet (unknown [85.183.0.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dedihh.fuckner.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 577C4101A4; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:25:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BCE9A16.7050809@fuckner.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:24:22 +0200 From: Michael Fuckner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100401 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Gigante References: <4180EDEC-DBAA-41C1-9922-1BFC38224984@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4180EDEC-DBAA-41C1-9922-1BFC38224984@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 3420 disk controller and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:24:31 -0000 On 04/19/10 20:42, Nicola Gigante wrote: Hi > But in particular I'm interested in the disk/raid controller. The machine's technical details say it ships with a > motherboard based on the Intel 3420 chipset. Is it supported by FreeBSD? Is its RAID controller supported > (assuming that's the chipset that handles RAID)? The Chipset can operate in 3 Modes: IDE, AHCI and RAID. Depending on the mode it has different PCI-IDs. It is said to support (driver-)raid, but I don't use it. When set to AHCI-Mode, the pci-id is 0x3b22. I use AHCI and it is supported by ahci in FreeBSD. > In case the RAID controller should result unsupported, would that mean that I can't even use the disk controller > at all? if it is not supported, you simply can't use it. Regards, Michael! 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