From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 12:16:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52651065707 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2748FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61D5D46B03; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from John-Baldwins-Macbook-Pro.local (c-68-36-150-83.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [68.36.150.83]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1CFC8A01F; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DFDE8A0.90208@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:16:32 -0400 From: John Baldwin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20110618034432.634C01CC0B@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20110618034432.634C01CC0B@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:16:33 -0000 On 6/17/11 11:44 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I'm looking for a Half-height mini-PCIe card that works well with > 8-stable. Any suggestions? My laptop has a RealTek card and I MIGHT be > able to use ndis, but I'd prefer one that just worked. > > Any suggestions? You might want to make sure that your laptop will accept a different wireless adapter. I tried to replace the Broadcom WIFI adapter in an HP netbook and the system refused to POST with an Atheros WIFI adapter. Apparently the BIOS would check the PCI ID of the adapter and only booted if it was the Broadcom adapter. (The message it output during POST actually said "restore valid WIFI nic" or some such.) I resorted to using ndis(4) (though it looks like the Linux equivalent of bwn(4) supports my adapter now, so maybe someday I'll get to use bwn(4)). -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 15:02:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710A1106564A; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3CD8FC0C; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF072C; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:25:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DCr2UmUzZN9m; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:25:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.laptop (178-36-140-41.adsl.inetia.pl [178.36.140.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EA95E0; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:25:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:24:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.6.4; amd64; ; ) References: <20110618034432.634C01CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <4DFDE8A0.90208@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4DFDE8A0.90208@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106191624.46574.milu@dat.pl> Cc: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:02:32 -0000 On Sunday 19 of June 2011 14:16:32 John Baldwin wrote: > You might want to make sure that your laptop will accept a different > wireless adapter. I tried to replace the Broadcom WIFI adapter in an HP > netbook and the system refused to POST with an Atheros WIFI adapter. > Apparently the BIOS would check the PCI ID of the adapter and only > booted if it was the Broadcom adapter. (The message it output during > POST actually said "restore valid WIFI nic" or some such.) I resorted > to using ndis(4) (though it looks like the Linux equivalent of bwn(4) > supports my adapter now, so maybe someday I'll get to use bwn(4)). In such case there are options to find a card which was made specific to manufacturer or find the patched bios(or do this by self but that may be very dangerous). I had such situation and went the whitelist way with my Lenovo laptop and I have no more problem with incompatible wireless(wwan and wlan) devices. The two computer manufacturers who are doing such security of their profit are HP and Lenovo. I don't know if others are doing that too. Maciek From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 16:17:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598CD106566B for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E178FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 63.imp.bsdimp.com (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5JGEQ5g050750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:14:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <201106191624.46574.milu@dat.pl> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:13:26 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8CE1BDDB-BC80-4C31-AC6F-EA99D94DA9AE@bsdimp.com> References: <20110618034432.634C01CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <4DFDE8A0.90208@FreeBSD.org> <201106191624.46574.milu@dat.pl> To: Maciej Milewski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:14:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Kevin Oberman , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:27 -0000 On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On Sunday 19 of June 2011 14:16:32 John Baldwin wrote: >> You might want to make sure that your laptop will accept a different >> wireless adapter. I tried to replace the Broadcom WIFI adapter in an = HP >> netbook and the system refused to POST with an Atheros WIFI adapter. >> Apparently the BIOS would check the PCI ID of the adapter and only >> booted if it was the Broadcom adapter. (The message it output during >> POST actually said "restore valid WIFI nic" or some such.) I = resorted >> to using ndis(4) (though it looks like the Linux equivalent of bwn(4) >> supports my adapter now, so maybe someday I'll get to use bwn(4)). >=20 > In such case there are options to find a card which was made specific = to=20 > manufacturer or find the patched bios(or do this by self but that may = be very=20 > dangerous). I had such situation and went the whitelist way with my = Lenovo=20 > laptop and I have no more problem with incompatible wireless(wwan and = wlan)=20 > devices. The two computer manufacturers who are doing such security of = their=20 > profit are HP and Lenovo. I don't know if others are doing that too. The other option is to change the ID in the BIOS (hardish) or get a = atheros card that you can change the ID for (less hard: google is your = friend ehre). Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 02:33:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4E5106566C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3D48FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1732789vws.13 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1JhEhnBAsUZmuFUGCFKNwQQAT8EG6U8CfGfijR/hCU0=; b=ssilKqDG6cb+019CaicWUr/TBzmlZ6EPyoaMGhFt32pF8g7gss+ne3PwLU3eCAFaOH k/9xIO0w/L/IUmfyCpLFfpeBTSJ1ZqW2Ci+NPwvUPEBDOMo0pfb+7uTSEvjxMcSm+Yg9 3jyMAvuzOEnUqJhGjcYo4zR06rLmCSCuStKnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=j9I2MNrAM6v6ck4j/PJXSi8y2zFaE+nQEe4oqPNxU0y615sRFxg9Aa3ACR/D4982uM uUi9+RY76fiidVtP5eDys6W5tTQs37ON/e8hH2Fv2STAkmyCN1hbyxzH69/+DLFUGt7n x7uEuQKLXXQHxw3sO/wd6RWqW7PNY3ZIjYVCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.98.42 with SMTP id ef10mr8186482vdb.271.1308623602100; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.182.228 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CE1BDDB-BC80-4C31-AC6F-EA99D94DA9AE@bsdimp.com> References: <20110618034432.634C01CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <4DFDE8A0.90208@FreeBSD.org> <201106191624.46574.milu@dat.pl> <8CE1BDDB-BC80-4C31-AC6F-EA99D94DA9AE@bsdimp.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:33:22 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Veye5xSotJ8VYF8OLovmquLDqTc Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: Warner Losh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Maciej Milewski , Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:33:23 -0000 FYI, There's documentation and code out there for doing this to the pre-11n NICs. This hasn't been done for the 11n NICs. Adrian On 20 June 2011 00:13, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > >> On Sunday 19 of June 2011 14:16:32 John Baldwin wrote: >>> You might want to make sure that your laptop will accept a different >>> wireless adapter. =A0I tried to replace the Broadcom WIFI adapter in an= HP >>> netbook and the system refused to POST with an Atheros WIFI adapter. >>> Apparently the BIOS would check the PCI ID of the adapter and only >>> booted if it was the Broadcom adapter. =A0(The message it output during >>> POST actually said "restore valid WIFI nic" or some such.) =A0I resorte= d >>> to using ndis(4) (though it looks like the Linux equivalent of bwn(4) >>> supports my adapter now, so maybe someday I'll get to use bwn(4)). >> >> In such case there are options to find a card which was made specific to >> manufacturer or find the patched bios(or do this by self but that may be= very >> dangerous). I had such situation and went the whitelist way with my Leno= vo >> laptop and I have no more problem with incompatible wireless(wwan and wl= an) >> devices. The two computer manufacturers who are doing such security of t= heir >> profit are HP and Lenovo. I don't know if others are doing that too. > > The other option is to change the ID in the BIOS (hardish) or get a ather= os card that you can change the ID for (less hard: google is your friend eh= re). > > Warner > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 17:58:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2F0106567C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: from mail.ambrisko.com (mail.ambrisko.com [64.174.51.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600858FC23 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:58:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Ambrisko-Me: Yes Received: from server2.ambrisko.com (HELO internal.ambrisko.com) ([192.168.1.2]) by ironport.ambrisko.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2011 10:38:20 -0700 Received: from ambrisko.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by internal.ambrisko.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5LHbhOe036715; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by ambrisko.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p5LHbg2c036714; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <201106211737.p5LHbg2c036714@ambrisko.com> In-Reply-To: <20110618034432.634C01CC0B@ptavv.es.net> To: Kevin Oberman Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL124d (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:58:49 -0000 Kevin Oberman writes: | I'm looking for a Half-height mini-PCIe card that works well with | 8-stable. Any suggestions? My laptop has a RealTek card and I MIGHT be | able to use ndis, but I'd prefer one that just worked. | | Any suggestions? ThinkPads generic wireless adapter seems to have switched from Atheros to Realtek :-( It wouldn't be bad if driver support existed. I couldn't get ndis to work with that card. I have with others. The other option for ThinkPads is Intel. They seem to work fairly well with iwn(4), older Intel cards used iwi(4). With ThinkPad Intel cards they usually list the chip number then you can look at the driver/man page to see if it is supported. The Intel stuff works okay, but Atheros seemed faster. The Intel will stall at times on some large transfers. It recovers. Doug A. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 23:28:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE105106572C; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A5C8FC08; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p5LNRw4T006997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:27:58 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 1821E1CC0B; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT) To: Adrian Chadd In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:33:22 +0800." Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:27:58 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20110621232758.1821E1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Maciej Milewski , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:28:10 -0000 > Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:33:22 +0800 > From: Adrian Chadd > > FYI, There's documentation and code out there for doing this to the > pre-11n NICs. This hasn't been done for the 11n NICs. > But, are there any pre-N NICs that are half-height PCIe format? I suspect not. if there was a way to make an Atheros "look" like an Intel, that would be great, but I suspect not (and I'd have to modify the Atheros driver to recognize the "Intel" wireless card as an Atheros.) I am now leaning toward looking for an Intel Centrino NIC as it should be one that Lenovo will accept. At least in the past, they have not sold cards with non-standard IDs, so any card that is one they sell should work. that means Intel Wireless-N 1000, 6205, or 6300. I have no idea if any of these is supported by any current driver, though. Can anyone confirm that any of these three cards will work or an way to find out what PCI IDs the BIOS will accept? Thanks, Adrian, imp, jhb and all the others who have made suggestions. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com > > Adrian > > On 20 June 2011 00:13, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > > > >> On Sunday 19 of June 2011 14:16:32 John Baldwin wrote: > >>> You might want to make sure that your laptop will accept a different > >>> wireless adapter.  I tried to replace the Broadcom WIFI adapter in an HP > >>> netbook and the system refused to POST with an Atheros WIFI adapter. > >>> Apparently the BIOS would check the PCI ID of the adapter and only > >>> booted if it was the Broadcom adapter.  (The message it output during > >>> POST actually said "restore valid WIFI nic" or some such.)  I resorted > >>> to using ndis(4) (though it looks like the Linux equivalent of bwn(4) > >>> supports my adapter now, so maybe someday I'll get to use bwn(4)). > >> > >> In such case there are options to find a card which was made specific to > >> manufacturer or find the patched bios(or do this by self but that may be very > >> dangerous). I had such situation and went the whitelist way with my Lenovo > >> laptop and I have no more problem with incompatible wireless(wwan and wlan) > >> devices. The two computer manufacturers who are doing such security of their > >> profit are HP and Lenovo. I don't know if others are doing that too. > > > > The other option is to change the ID in the BIOS (hardish) or get a atheros card that you can change the ID for (less hard: google is your friend ehre). > > > > Warner > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 06:16:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E123106572C; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bschmidt@techwires.net) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122528FC08; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so612667fxm.13 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.44.86 with SMTP id z22mr380163fae.3.1308723400913; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jessie.localnet (p5B2ECADC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.46.202.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q21sm107941fan.16.2011.06.21.23.16.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Bernhard Schmidt From: Bernhard Schmidt To: "Kevin Oberman" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:15:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-32-generic; KDE/4.4.5; i686; ; ) References: <20110621232758.1821E1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20110621232758.1821E1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106220815.06625.bschmidt@freebsd.org> Cc: Adrian Chadd , Maciej Milewski , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Well supported wireless card for Lenovo T520 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bschmidt@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:16:42 -0000 On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 01:27:58 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:33:22 +0800 > > From: Adrian Chadd > > > > FYI, There's documentation and code out there for doing this to the > > pre-11n NICs. This hasn't been done for the 11n NICs. > > > > But, are there any pre-N NICs that are half-height PCIe format? I > suspect not. if there was a way to make an Atheros "look" like an Intel, > that would be great, but I suspect not (and I'd have to modify the > Atheros driver to recognize the "Intel" wireless card as an Atheros.) > > I am now leaning toward looking for an Intel Centrino NIC as it should be > one that Lenovo will accept. At least in the past, they have not sold > cards with non-standard IDs, so any card that is one they sell should > work. that means Intel Wireless-N 1000, 6205, or 6300. I have no idea if > any of these is supported by any current driver, though. The Lenovo BTO page provides 4 Intel cards to choose from, those 3 above + the 6250, all of those are supported by iwn(4). I'm currently typing this over a 6205. > Can anyone confirm that any of these three cards will work or an way to > find out what PCI IDs the BIOS will accept? No clue, but given that those are available to choose from on the Lenovo shop.. > Thanks, Adrian, imp, jhb and all the others who have made suggestions. > > > > Adrian > > > > On 20 June 2011 00:13, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > > > > > >> On Sunday 19 of June 2011 14:16:32 John Baldwin wrote: > > >>> You might want to make sure that your laptop will accept a different > > >>> wireless adapter. I tried to replace the Broadcom WIFI adapter in an HP > > >>> netbook and the system refused to POST with an Atheros WIFI adapter. > > >>> Apparently the BIOS would check the PCI ID of the adapter and only > > >>> booted if it was the Broadcom adapter. (The message it output during > > >>> POST actually said "restore valid WIFI nic" or some such.) I resorted > > >>> to using ndis(4) (though it looks like the Linux equivalent of bwn(4) > > >>> supports my adapter now, so maybe someday I'll get to use bwn(4)). > > >> > > >> In such case there are options to find a card which was made specific to > > >> manufacturer or find the patched bios(or do this by self but that may be very > > >> dangerous). I had such situation and went the whitelist way with my Lenovo > > >> laptop and I have no more problem with incompatible wireless(wwan and wlan) > > >> devices. The two computer manufacturers who are doing such security of their > > >> profit are HP and Lenovo. I don't know if others are doing that too. > > > > > > The other option is to change the ID in the BIOS (hardish) or get a atheros card that you can change the ID for (less hard: google is your friend ehre). > > > > > > Warner > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Bernhard From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 12:41:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E36106566B for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeus@relay.ibs.dn.ua) Received: from relay.ibs.dn.ua (relay.ibs.dn.ua [91.216.196.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EA58FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.ibs.dn.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.ibs.dn.ua with ESMTP id p5MCRKnT038715 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:27:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from zeus@localhost) by relay.ibs.dn.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p5MCRKth038714 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:27:20 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:27:19 +0300 From: Zeus V Panchenko To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE X-Editor: GNU Emacs 23.2.1 Subject: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zeus@ibs.dn.ua List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:41:28 -0000 Hi, i'm trying to get working Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller (AR928x) on Lenovo S10-3 netbook here are details: > uname -a FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > pciconf -lv ath0@pci0:9:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x30a117aa chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' device = 'Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller (AR928x)' class = network in dmesg i receive this: > dmesg | grep ath ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). ath0: cannot map register space device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 is it working at all, pls? -- Zeus V. Panchenko JID:zeus@gnu.org.ua GMT+2 (EET) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:46:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43B1106566C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFE88FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D04646B32; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC0948A027; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:46:22 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, zeus@ibs.dn.ua Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:04:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110617; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> In-Reply-To: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106221004.42281.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:46:23 -0000 On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:27:19 am Zeus V Panchenko wrote: > Hi, > > i'm trying to get working Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller (AR928x) > on Lenovo S10-3 netbook > > here are details: > > > uname -a > FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > pciconf -lv > ath0@pci0:9:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x30a117aa chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' > device = 'Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller (AR928x)' > class = network > > > in dmesg i receive this: > > > dmesg | grep ath > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). > ath0: cannot map register space > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 > > > is it working at all, pls? This is likely fixed in HEAD. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:21:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CD6106566C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeus@relay.ibs.dn.ua) Received: from relay.ibs.dn.ua (relay.ibs.dn.ua [91.216.196.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BC28FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.ibs.dn.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.ibs.dn.ua with ESMTP id p5MHLpcg052358 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:21:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from zeus@localhost) by relay.ibs.dn.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p5MHLohP052357 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:21:50 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:21:50 +0300 From: Zeus V Panchenko To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110622172150.GE46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> <201106221004.42281.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201106221004.42281.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE X-Editor: GNU Emacs 23.2.1 X-Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACoAAAAqBAMAAAA37dRoAAAAFVBMVEWjjoiZhHDWzcZuW1U wOT+RcGxziJxEN0lIAAABrklEQVQokV2STXLbMAyFQaraE3a5dzSTfR1IF7CQrM3QuECn9z9DH0 gxzgSyFvr88PBD0uJxoR6BE+e8LtRgohE5ZB50sODP/REbfUnte/z12+llCekLUSKenFIMke6Be WinE8H0RJHSN71rUQp64gFDmtDDhRk0zam3FzpNVFprhwPGaFo6oY9wDBJQ9Qz6EuKyROJjDGa+ uza4VOTa8iHlN58Yv5BF9+4BGl0LA5pUD5xKXg4aQlVZm0co3NKxCGxQpu3aC352Gv3DZONmwQd tkrlaylV3YSew7bWtwAZF/zi9jblmprPoL7ktzeFSxmarVNmWRi+Bmxg7Y7tbGtR8XZUxLTo86G thANsssetjp3POuBvMBRlw6jRa5pKN7yVlP+F2lyiZGSMf5hnSU6eAVupmtfjRcxy0momwpxDnz 06hwnOWvBnUdR8U2/KX7cq26u1Jy5xFZMPOVONRbRUrwey8Qar6cWgf12xSymQuVX0DfYd4R8kN Hg0qCtLeaYZcj8B90M2N0cEX1P0vKSxw7NLy/3X8Qeriusu66jNA37P4Mn5QRTG2hz4d9D/6E3a EX852nwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zeus@ibs.dn.ua List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:21:55 -0000 John Baldwin (jhb@freebsd.org) [11.06.22 18:46] wrote: > > > dmesg | grep ath > > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 > > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). > > ath0: cannot map register space > > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 > > > > > > is it working at all, pls? > > This is likely fixed in HEAD. > mmm ... is it possible to have it in STABLE somehow, pls? -- Zeus V. Panchenko JID:zeus@gnu.org.ua GMT+2 (EET) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:58:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF181065670 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9D58FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so579661yic.13 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:58:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=reawVhT5F0s9/xAFlarS5s07rEtEz33whZE7+yOKJhI=; b=qwpq9iL70cS7HDzh37LhNdZMxMFHH+jBWp72jJ7huenCjxfrhsTvBWQCr5JOsbG8gZ m4qH5I9olbDzo90gIdopjt8xVyyAvDsAKtxtpDWcNmPBr3V+M8h9qSIRDkoHUt+ZkDOy 0nbLQY5fu+AfMrHWdPvTt/XvO2B9aagWnYWIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xhrGoFtaqTtKUBxcd0DHFjHvF7j6xVLF9uxwEusw2qFEdX6MPN6yEApQD4d9H5fGJQ QsKkNCHcfKNpfyD4vGsSQvLWMqg4GICSO7TaAmYaQtaUaTUPPFNcoXm2Br0DpF1gED1J pQZD+BZ5JcM4PSCqoJPZirKJsAVZo10VzDcLc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.141.13 with SMTP id o13mr567798ybd.287.1308763945138; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.15 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.15 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:32:25 -1000 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, zeus@ibs.dn.ua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:58:11 -0000 Check the archives of wireless. Adrian Chadd has posted instructions for building the new driver as a module for 8-stable. I have not tried it, as I don't have a card, yet. See thread on "Well supported wireless for Lenovo T520". R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Retired kob@gmail.com On Jun 22, 2011 7:22 AM, "Zeus V Panchenko" wrote: > John Baldwin (jhb@freebsd.org) [11.06.22 18:46] wrote: >> > > dmesg | grep ath >> > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 >> > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). >> > ath0: cannot map register space >> > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 >> > >> > >> > is it working at all, pls? >> >> This is likely fixed in HEAD. >> > > mmm ... is it possible to have it in STABLE somehow, pls? > > -- > Zeus V. Panchenko > JID:zeus@gnu.org.ua GMT+2 (EET) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:15:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B37106564A for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeus@relay.ibs.dn.ua) Received: from relay.ibs.dn.ua (relay.ibs.dn.ua [91.216.196.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD4B8FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.ibs.dn.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.ibs.dn.ua with ESMTP id p5MIFPse054610 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:15:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from zeus@localhost) by relay.ibs.dn.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p5MIFPon054609 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:15:25 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:15:25 +0300 From: Zeus V Panchenko To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110622181525.GA54478@relay.ibs.dn.ua> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE X-Editor: GNU Emacs 23.2.1 X-Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACoAAAAqBAMAAAA37dRoAAAAFVBMVEWjjoiZhHDWzcZuW1U wOT+RcGxziJxEN0lIAAABrklEQVQokV2STXLbMAyFQaraE3a5dzSTfR1IF7CQrM3QuECn9z9DH0 gxzgSyFvr88PBD0uJxoR6BE+e8LtRgohE5ZB50sODP/REbfUnte/z12+llCekLUSKenFIMke6Be WinE8H0RJHSN71rUQp64gFDmtDDhRk0zam3FzpNVFprhwPGaFo6oY9wDBJQ9Qz6EuKyROJjDGa+ uza4VOTa8iHlN58Yv5BF9+4BGl0LA5pUD5xKXg4aQlVZm0co3NKxCGxQpu3aC352Gv3DZONmwQd tkrlaylV3YSew7bWtwAZF/zi9jblmprPoL7ktzeFSxmarVNmWRi+Bmxg7Y7tbGtR8XZUxLTo86G thANsssetjp3POuBvMBRlw6jRa5pKN7yVlP+F2lyiZGSMf5hnSU6eAVupmtfjRcxy0momwpxDnz 06hwnOWvBnUdR8U2/KX7cq26u1Jy5xFZMPOVONRbRUrwey8Qar6cWgf12xSymQuVX0DfYd4R8kN Hg0qCtLeaYZcj8B90M2N0cEX1P0vKSxw7NLy/3X8Qeriusu66jNA37P4Mn5QRTG2hz4d9D/6E3a EX852nwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zeus@ibs.dn.ua List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:15:28 -0000 Kevin Oberman (kob6558@gmail.com) [11.06.22 20:32] wrote: > Check the archives of wireless. Adrian Chadd has posted instructions for > building the new driver as a module for 8-stable. I have not tried it, as I > don't have a card, yet. > See thread on "Well supported wireless for Lenovo T520". just red all posts and the only mentioning is >> Adrian Chadd adrian at freebsd.org >> Tue Jun 21 02:33:23 UTC 2011 >> >> FYI, There's documentation and code out there for doing this to the >> pre-11n NICs. This hasn't been done for the 11n NICs. but where is it? -- Zeus V. Panchenko JID:zeus@gnu.org.ua GMT+2 (EET) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:05:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5530106566C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E37B8FC1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so650826gxk.13 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hPks2i5daW1lFIN6rGZLpx3MAPiknQeBHNe7Rv2DVIM=; b=MwCqAl4sjhJaYnGWZwsljNPxCyHmXOO9TCUhDz1aXBXflPMcpXE7mDYkDvPLy3rB1T SV53e2hhXleFYy2w/lneVdPafWBRemAGF/LgQXhCmQLzg06ovEUL2wSpqxoFlh5TuJdZ xsitGiRpeklqgAvpXN7rmSNdZyfc9Lz6fMIqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s1Kbj41y0QzAjHRsDrBFyDhFrEtUzKE9zkAV7lKoPMzyZKPNAjExfSHJiQE9MzBuCd uYiVL9rfrFNjmHEJwLK0KplBLpzrUTy3uS61btNOG5eTXsTsJkteC0YGQpTLoEbLigOI HOe/LWkHauBb0WIXxPM6hMEEbRueu8WRqa9b4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr1320632yba.116.1308773152198; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.15 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110622181525.GA54478@relay.ibs.dn.ua> References: <20110622181525.GA54478@relay.ibs.dn.ua> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:05:52 -1000 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: zeus@ibs.dn.ua, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:05:54 -0000 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Zeus V Panchenko wrote: > Kevin Oberman (kob6558@gmail.com) [11.06.22 20:32] wrote: >> Check the archives of wireless. Adrian Chadd has posted instructions for >> building the new driver as a module for 8-stable. I have not tried it, a= s I >> don't have a card, yet. >> See thread on "Well supported wireless for Lenovo T520". > > just red all posts and the only mentioning is > >>> Adrian Chadd adrian at freebsd.org >>> Tue Jun 21 02:33:23 UTC 2011 >>> >>> FYI, There's documentation and code out there for doing this to the >>> pre-11n NICs. This hasn't been done for the 11n NICs. > > but where is it? > > -- > Zeus V. Panchenko > JID:zeus@gnu.org.ua =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 GMT+2 (EET) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D167507+172298+/usr/local/www/= db/text/2011/freebsd-wireless/20110417.freebsd-wireless --=20 R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer - Retired E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:07:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E20106566C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19678FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7172346B2E; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EC8F8A01F; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, zeus@ibs.dn.ua Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:03:56 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110617; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> <201106221004.42281.jhb@freebsd.org> <20110622172150.GE46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> In-Reply-To: <20110622172150.GE46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106221603.56422.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:07:08 -0000 On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:21:50 pm Zeus V Panchenko wrote: > John Baldwin (jhb@freebsd.org) [11.06.22 18:46] wrote: > > > > dmesg | grep ath > > > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 > > > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). > > > ath0: cannot map register space > > > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 > > > > > > > > > is it working at all, pls? > > > > This is likely fixed in HEAD. > > > > mmm ... is it possible to have it in STABLE somehow, pls? Hmm, it's a rather big set of changes to the PCI code. I might take a gander at making a candidate patch for 8. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 22:23:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E175E106566C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D6D8FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so704301yxl.13 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:23:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zbxLAYmvHF5etNSUHRUE/s7a98whIOx3Qyp7JIR0sUg=; b=etv5qU5Dj/EhEB1prAUMOhe3lOVpXe6TGPPGLGcVx18FBkzyOEhGuBv2MVSglLChYQ vdugY4x2OEvUFpANI01SoTJ/8x4w+yrmUnT317q+sT7Ia716dsq8ZWkTte8TnAO2J0MV SNgvsPDnwqUeRjs2IyZHhIVIl/cIX1iohTDAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kT/8Jo8sLeyH42Arc07T4aiyyvLY8a3vYraXUPGFxsrR/CoKaaesYolVwi9jmDpcJF sRJkf4ZH2QeZ50C2PoB2k+3zWTAdkFjVA05shzLCIj8FaWdyNJfsgOmvyGeo6SLq7KpU FeN5rchzX0plcllGQV5W3sHNlYeLcogTggd74= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.187.20 with SMTP id k20mr1535397ybf.401.1308781417095; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.15 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201106221603.56422.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> <201106221004.42281.jhb@freebsd.org> <20110622172150.GE46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> <201106221603.56422.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:23:37 -1000 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: zeus@ibs.dn.ua, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:23:40 -0000 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:21:50 pm Zeus V Panchenko wrote: >> John Baldwin (jhb@freebsd.org) [11.06.22 18:46] wrote: >> > > > dmesg | grep ath >> > > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 >> > > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). >> > > ath0: cannot map register space >> > > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 >> > > >> > > >> > > is it working at all, pls? >> > >> > This is likely fixed in HEAD. >> > >> >> mmm ... is it possible to have it in STABLE somehow, pls? > > Hmm, it's a rather big set of changes to the PCI code. =A0I might take a = gander > at making a candidate patch for 8. John, Adrian posted instruction for building the driver as a module on 8. It's posted to the wireless list at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D167507+172298+/usr/local/www/= db/text/2011/freebsd-wireless/20110417.freebsd-wireless So no need to do it again. --=20 R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer - Retired E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:47:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AC9106566B for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B328FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1B6046B03; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7AAF58A027; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:47:27 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Kevin Oberman Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:47:26 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110617; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> <201106221603.56422.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106230947.26876.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: zeus@ibs.dn.ua, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:47:28 -0000 On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:23:37 pm Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:21:50 pm Zeus V Panchenko wrote: > >> John Baldwin (jhb@freebsd.org) [11.06.22 18:46] wrote: > >> > > > dmesg | grep ath > >> > > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 > >> > > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). > >> > > ath0: cannot map register space > >> > > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > is it working at all, pls? > >> > > >> > This is likely fixed in HEAD. > >> > > >> > >> mmm ... is it possible to have it in STABLE somehow, pls? > > > > Hmm, it's a rather big set of changes to the PCI code. I might take a gander > > at making a candidate patch for 8. > > John, > > Adrian posted instruction for building the driver as a module on 8. > It's posted to the wireless list at: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=167507+172298+/usr/local/www/db/text/2011/freebsd-wireless/20110417.freebsd-wireless > > So no need to do it again. No, his issue is a PCI issue (the 'cannot map register space') which is likely fixed by this change (but it needs other stuff MFC'd first before it will work): Author: jhb Date: Tue May 3 17:37:24 2011 New Revision: 221393 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/221393 Log: Reimplement how PCI-PCI bridges manage their I/O windows. Previously the driver would verify that requests for child devices were confined to any existing I/O windows, but the driver relied on the firmware to initialize the windows and would never grow the windows for new requests. Now the driver actively manages the I/O windows. This is implemented by allocating a bus resource for each I/O window from the parent PCI bus and suballocating that resource to child devices. The suballocations are managed by creating an rman for each I/O window. The suballocated resources are mapped by passing the bus_activate_resource() call up to the parent PCI bus. Windows are grown when needed by using bus_adjust_resource() to adjust the resource allocated from the parent PCI bus. If the adjust request succeeds, the window is adjusted and the suballocation request for the child device is retried. When growing a window, the rman_first_free_region() and rman_last_free_region() routines are used to determine if the front or end of the existing I/O window is free. From using that, the smallest ranges that need to be added to either the front or back of the window are computed. The driver will first try to grow the window in whichever direction requires the smallest growth first followed by the other direction if that fails. Subtractive bridges will first attempt to satisfy requests for child resources from I/O windows (including attempts to grow the windows). If that fails, the request is passed up to the parent PCI bus directly however. The PCI-PCI bridge driver will try to use firmware-assigned ranges for child BARs first and only allocate a "fresh" range if that specific range cannot be accommodated in the I/O window. This allows systems where the firmware assigns resources during boot but later wipes the I/O windows (some ACPI BIOSen are known to do this) to "rediscover" the original I/O window ranges. The ACPI Host-PCI bridge driver has been adjusted to correctly honor hw.acpi.host_mem_start and the I/O port equivalent when a PCI-PCI bridge makes a wildcard request for an I/O window range. The new PCI-PCI bridge driver is only enabled if the NEW_PCIB kernel option is enabled. This is a transition aide to allow platforms that do not yet support bus_activate_resource() and bus_adjust_resource() in their Host-PCI bridge drivers (and possibly other drivers as needed) to use the old driver for now. Once all platforms support the new driver, the kernel option and old driver will be removed. PR: kern/143874 kern/149306 Tested by: mav Modified: head/sys/amd64/pci/pci_bus.c head/sys/conf/options head/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_pcib_acpi.c head/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_pcib_pci.c head/sys/dev/pci/pci.c head/sys/dev/pci/pci_pci.c head/sys/dev/pci/pcib_private.h head/sys/i386/pci/pci_bus.c head/sys/sparc64/pci/apb.c head/sys/sparc64/pci/ofw_pcib.c head/sys/x86/pci/qpi.c head/sys/x86/x86/mptable_pci.c -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 19:36:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880431065678 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD438FC24 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CEE2746B42; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 707CE8A027; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:36:42 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, zeus@ibs.dn.ua Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:56:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110617; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20110622122719.GC46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> <201106221004.42281.jhb@freebsd.org> <20110622172150.GE46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> In-Reply-To: <20110622172150.GE46814@relay.ibs.dn.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106241456.33376.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: ath 9285 cannot map register space X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:36:43 -0000 On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:21:50 pm Zeus V Panchenko wrote: > John Baldwin (jhb@freebsd.org) [11.06.22 18:46] wrote: > > > > dmesg | grep ath > > > ath0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 > > > ath0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). > > > ath0: cannot map register space > > > device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 > > > > > > > > > is it working at all, pls? > > > > This is likely fixed in HEAD. > > > > mmm ... is it possible to have it in STABLE somehow, pls? Please update to the latest 8-stable and try the patch from http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/pcib_window_8.patch Note that you will have to add 'options NEW_PCIB' to your kernel config file for the changes to take effect after applying the patch. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 17:51:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D640C1065672 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bastian@tecroots.net) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AB38FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04AE20595 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.213]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:34:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=uELrrjG18e3sF5QoWiciUJzfH24=; b=CAx4GackKog5gKB1rho9xb/S5jYZbRKPcyVwURCIutvgVhG0BooaNTf5xeZpYYsLqU5y0OPAtSqBDFCO1slfiYg4jT8g7RFZLf56JZETOpJpKYd62nsUaeDItFvhgS3LNb3BfiZXdQhtddNTx8TDoaJt6EQrAbTFD7JbXCk601k= Received: by web3.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8076A5C1042; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1309023264.31961.1467170105@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: JB6cJzVRzKMErUC0zSuRjElTbPLGLcFZc1Vy4qYDJWqQ 1309023264 From: "Bastian Rieck" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:34:24 +0200 Subject: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:51:21 -0000 Dear list, I need to replace my old IBM Thinkpad R50e, which is running FreeBSD 8.2. Currently, my favoured replacement is a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E520. However, I am not sure how well FreeBSD would run on it. Is anyone using this laptop with FreeBSD? I ran several searches with Google, of course, but the models described in search results are either too old or too expensive, i.e. more than 1000 EUR... Consequently, I am also interested in other recommendations: If you are using an affordable laptop (say less than 600 EUR, i.e. 850 USD) with FreeBSD, please reply. My requirements are actually quite low: I need 3D acceleration (OpenGL) as I am developing scientific visualization software and a working WLAN card. Any extra features/hardware supported would be nice, but it is definitely _not_ a must. Thanks for your considerations. Kind regards, Bastian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:34:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9314F106566C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAE48FC17 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1950153gyf.13 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:34:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b8NjMavJssq0bKeAguf4JjPi+z88lAc+w7PQR/j/4Ww=; b=udjSGqqUy6JqBUP8tmpXsmCpWfl8FV3C6T5kNvQyU1Ku9JnRZzUjkX+DvnKTsFH22e 4ybwuOtFmkYHhQLrp8IIMg0lpfMz1VFMrqIZO4iZAdCJLDe2cG283Y4HdZkOq1KbqiZI EYesRH+xPNXYZOzgLznGrZ3d9S7n3UavnEdbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KGSw8g7e27DwC3EBC4M4dcMDCOVL32oRmLR5OopIB5WPStf2ycXGyqu3p2ipfE26Ge 3RG4spBe+kQ+ORacntk+vGQfu6wKGjB90/HswDtlC6i9DctnfHUp4BfA2fnV1AtDLAlC 3IlJrMMljwz1pyyX1xTEM2cMy8cyPXqLudGek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.66.20 with SMTP id o20mr5007244yba.344.1309026857511; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.15 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:34:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1309023264.31961.1467170105@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1309023264.31961.1467170105@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:34:17 -1000 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: Bastian Rieck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:34:18 -0000 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Bastian Rieck wrote= : > Dear list, > > I need to replace my old IBM Thinkpad R50e, which is running FreeBSD > 8.2. Currently, my favoured replacement is a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E520. > However, I am not sure how well FreeBSD would run on it. Is anyone > using this laptop with FreeBSD? I ran several searches with Google, > of course, but the models described in search results are either > too old or too expensive, > i.e. more than 1000 EUR... > > Consequently, I am also interested in other recommendations: If you are > using an affordable laptop (say less than 600 EUR, i.e. 850 USD) with > FreeBSD, please reply. My requirements are actually quite low: I need 3D > acceleration (OpenGL) as I am developing scientific visualization > software and a working WLAN card. Any extra features/hardware supported > would be nice, but it is definitely _not_ a must. > > Thanks for your considerations. > > Kind regards, > =A0 Bastian Two main issues. Graphics and wireless. As far as wireless goes, look out for Lenovo "1x1" wireless. It's a Realtek card and there is no support for it. The Intel cards (Centrino) should do OK with IWN. I would be delighted if an Atheros card would work, but Lenovo locks PCI IDs for wireless, so I suspect Atheros won't work since Lenovo no longer sells them. Almost all new systems use the integrated Intel 3000 GPU which won't work with FreeBSD until GEM/KMS support is available. If you can find AMD graphics or nVidia graphics OTHER THAN OPTIMUS, you are fine, but I don't think this will be easy. Lenovo does sell some AMD based laptops with Redeon graphics and hose might be your best bet. Good luck! FreeBSD on laptops is a real problem ATM. --=20 R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer - Retired E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:52:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10D1106564A for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2B58FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5PIP2JX068279; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p5PIP2te068278; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:25:02 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Bastian Rieck Message-ID: <20110625182502.GF29050@albert.catwhisker.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , Bastian Rieck , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lUFOiBjYbj2M+tdK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:52:57 -0000 --lUFOiBjYbj2M+tdK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 07:34:24PM +0200, Bastian Rieck wrote: > Dear list, >=20 > I need to replace my old IBM Thinkpad R50e, which is running FreeBSD > 8.2. Currently, my favoured replacement is a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E520. > .... I rather like the laptop I've been using for the past several months: a Dell Precision M4400. I track stable/8 & head (in different slices) on it daily; it normally takes about an hour to take care of both of those. And it has a 1920x1200 display -- as well as 2 sets of 3 mouse buttons each (each of which works as expected). I have found that I sometimes manage to slide the "WiFi disable" switch to an unwanted setting accidentally, and the power connection slips out a little too easily, but those are about the worst things I can think of with respect to the hardware. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --lUFOiBjYbj2M+tdK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4GJ/0ACgkQmprOCmdXAD1zwwCfXhJwS5tI0+yOT5SuEp58K0JU jWQAnRlUJkuYXcjkzFmZ2Wm0sGr8URT2 =7Nzn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lUFOiBjYbj2M+tdK-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:16:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72365106566C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC928FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.177] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaYKs-0007Aa-Be; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:16:09 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5PJHDR2001204; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:17:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p5PJH9Xr001203; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:17:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:17:08 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: David Wolfskill , Bastian Rieck , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110625191708.GA1182@tiny> References: <20110625182502.GF29050@albert.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20110625182502.GF29050@albert.catwhisker.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.177 Cc: Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:16:18 -0000 El día Saturday, June 25, 2011 a las 11:25:02AM -0700, David Wolfskill escribió: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 07:34:24PM +0200, Bastian Rieck wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > I need to replace my old IBM Thinkpad R50e, which is running FreeBSD > > 8.2. Currently, my favoured replacement is a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E520. > > .... > > I rather like the laptop I've been using for the past several months: a > Dell Precision M4400. I track stable/8 & head (in different slices) on > it daily; it normally takes about an hour to take care of both of those. I run a bunch of laptops/netbooks, all with some older 8-CURRENT or now 9-CURRENT (head): Acer Aspire One D250 Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M1437G Asus EeePC 900 Dell M4400 Ofc, every laptop has its own problem, for example with sound, and needs special attention (read: finding a solution); concerning graphic, it's not an FreeBSD issue, but havin support in Xorg for the chipset; the best way, if youd dealer allows it, would be to boot the laptop in question with a recent Knoppix DVD to see in detail what is in the box and then check the FreeBSD man(4) pages if it is supported; > And it has a 1920x1200 display -- as well as 2 sets of 3 mouse buttons > each (each of which works as expected). > > I have found that I sometimes manage to slide the "WiFi disable" switch > to an unwanted setting accidentally, and the power connection slips out > a little too easily, but those are about the worst things I can think of > with respect to the hardware. I have the same problem with the M4400 :-) it's just a bad hardware/case design; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:53:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8597B1065679 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chillt.de) Received: from dd16434.kasserver.com (dd16434.kasserver.com [85.13.137.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A20F8FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from taiko.lan (ppp-4-224.32-151.iol.it [151.32.224.4]) by dd16434.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80D3218862A2; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:38:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E06390D.4010700@chillt.de> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:37:49 +0200 From: Bartosz Fabianowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <1309023264.31961.1467170105@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bastian Rieck , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:53:51 -0000 > If you can find AMD graphics or nVidia graphics OTHER THAN OPTIMUS, > you are fine Unfortunately, this is no longer true from AMD. Evergreen GPUs have very rudimentary 2D support only. 3D support is in the drivers but requires KMS. Although KMS is being worked on, I believe it will be for Intel GPUs only at first. So 3D support for newer AMD GPUs is a way off still :(. - Bartosz