From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 02:49:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51669106564A for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC198FC15 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so5928473lah.13 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:49:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Y4SblbAVppwPJjQqoHnMFb6u3Z6KEdpDHtZbdC4ZiIE=; b=qgn3LayQGwrNYLy72l0UuMPNeKcTEme/yl0XK6sDeeORbvVbrp9M0vFreCHreYVp9g Ia/GlB0KXbZixY0++KzcylnVWGG7o4DYQThjzb6IvT6cAHblVWa2jB6YLpY9bz/x6K9m QeTMpMaUQDuRg60DSYku6kds+K+ka2rVS+o9o= Received: by 10.152.133.70 with SMTP id pa6mr18665735lab.0.1324866153133; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:22:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.129.8 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:22:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: freebsd ports , x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:49:15 -0000 Hi porters, The X11BASE variable has been deprecated for a long time. Support for having a X11BASE different than LOCALBASE was terminated on 2009/12/18. After the 9.0 release I will commit a patch that removes all current references of the variable from bsd.port.mk and bsd.xorg.mk. In the meantime I will be adding some helper code to a few ports that still depend on it. New ports should not reference X11BASE at all. Thanks, Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 06:57:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC11106566C; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexkozlov0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B310F8FC08; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekc50 with SMTP id c50so12819737eek.13 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:57:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition; bh=kYufMjyGX3J/cQogc7bUkQmo7FvFsc29hzVwWaX7Ec0=; b=b8kzol2C0v7j4INzNIGbTDLi6aWUzPqbxhEfDRoXE/8jUxwyDA4biYn7Qxy9fh3ovs hjmWuBPluXsoTFbF/SigfgDNjD+jmX6NROj16EcC0tMcBHheAYTS0sUXuF4vg0HLnS3e SRyS5hrBz7hCAQmfi1GTE0Xh1K/VJjjx8mbjY= Received: by 10.213.2.75 with SMTP id 11mr3424341ebi.134.1324880996471; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenloft.kiev.ua (ravenloft.kiev.ua. [94.244.131.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t59sm87416442eeh.10.2011.12.25.22.29.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:29:55 -0800 (PST) Sender: Alex Kozlov Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:29:23 +0200 From: Alex Kozlov To: Eitan Adler , freebsd ports , x11@freebsd.org, spam@rm-rf.kiev.ua Message-ID: <20111226062923.GA70925@ravenloft.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:57:05 -0000 On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 09:22:02PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > The X11BASE variable has been deprecated for a long time. Support for > having a X11BASE different than LOCALBASE was terminated on > 2009/12/18. After the 9.0 release I will commit a patch that removes > all current references of the variable from bsd.port.mk and > bsd.xorg.mk. In the meantime I will be adding some helper code to a > few ports that still depend on it. New ports should not reference > X11BASE at all. Do You consider removal of X11 dir from /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist in CURRENT? Old insallations already have this dir and new doesn't have xorg.conf at all or have it in $PREFIX/etc/X11/ -- Adios From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 08:33:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99A4106564A for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0048FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so21955062iad.13 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:33:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0yo3k/qHyXlJDnAdkPuuq5lcOtNtPuqN9rzMqGw0ZPA=; b=lxD9SDYE32DzP3ZW9LdzOngPTX3jG9RSflaUTIYpZfDIqZK7f5HriK/TAfpXwvvyKy WxjSe003xmnubO3CE/irVYVZBcP+1Vted1KAMeq+TwWI6BYmRIECmXUUI+iSApyc4Pc1 K5mQzUpzcVBCidGPBtd+Lp8Ccevhzv6GZ63F4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.51.69 with SMTP id vh5mr27444567icb.32.1324886844201; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.207.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.207.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:07:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111226062923.GA70925@ravenloft.kiev.ua> References: <20111226062923.GA70925@ravenloft.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:07:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Alex Kozlov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd ports Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:33:57 -0000 On 26 Dec 2011 06:57, "Alex Kozlov" wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 09:22:02PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > > The X11BASE variable has been deprecated for a long time. Support for > > having a X11BASE different than LOCALBASE was terminated on > > 2009/12/18. After the 9.0 release I will commit a patch that removes > > all current references of the variable from bsd.port.mk and > > bsd.xorg.mk. In the meantime I will be adding some helper code to a > > few ports that still depend on it. New ports should not reference > > X11BASE at all. > Do You consider removal of X11 dir from /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist in CURRENT? > Old insallations already have this dir and new doesn't have xorg.conf at > all or have it in $PREFIX/etc/X11/ > X11BASE is the variable that used to reference /usr/X11R6 which is where the older XFree86 was installed. Since we moved to Xorg, it's been a symlink to /usr/local if present. /etc/X11 is not related to this change. Chris From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 08:34:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C29106564A; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexkozlov0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF5C8FC0C; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekc50 with SMTP id c50so12870404eek.13 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:34:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition; bh=MPjGAbgl3yd7i62AWUOy3toOBtBS5JEm5Rt91Kz0+bI=; b=CNxN83BRbCKRTQAkVmAnLeo1Lunauwm4KGQ8Awqr/Za+opX0KrPbeDCtGe9sfY9uLN VjTGJts4bzoIIkFmULSa1OysdaN+SbROH8S+9XatUD+FMdpPVQBPGsB4fZ1kMHzfpir2 ugp7EjO/QiY46LtQs/sX3aOCFhrBXjf3nAzmA= Received: by 10.213.34.135 with SMTP id l7mr1020877ebd.42.1324888460271; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenloft.kiev.ua (ravenloft.kiev.ua. [94.244.131.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z54sm88635812eeh.5.2011.12.26.00.34.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:34:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: Alex Kozlov Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:34:15 +0200 From: Alex Kozlov To: Chris Rees , x11@freebsd.org, freebsd ports , Eitan Adler , spam@rm-rf.kiev.ua Message-ID: <20111226083415.GA73902@ravenloft.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:34:22 -0000 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 08:07:23AM +0000, Chris Rees wrote: > On 26 Dec 2011 06:57, "Alex Kozlov" wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 09:22:02PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> The X11BASE variable has been deprecated for a long time. Support for > >> having a X11BASE different than LOCALBASE was terminated on > >> 2009/12/18. After the 9.0 release I will commit a patch that removes > >> all current references of the variable from bsd.port.mk and > >> bsd.xorg.mk. In the meantime I will be adding some helper code to a > >> few ports that still depend on it. New ports should not reference > >> X11BASE at all. >> Do You consider removal of X11 dir from /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist in > CURRENT? >> Old insallations already have this dir and new doesn't have xorg.conf at >> all or have it in $PREFIX/etc/X11/ > X11BASE is the variable that used to reference /usr/X11R6 which is where > the older XFree86 was installed. Since we moved to Xorg, it's been a > symlink to /usr/local if present. > > /etc/X11 is not related to this change. I know. I saw this topic and remember about remnants of X11 in the base. Don't want to hijack this thread, so better move to another list. Where to? current, arch? -- Adios From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 11:07:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866E21065672 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD978FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBQB7LZo022686 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:07:21 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBQB7Kg0022684 for freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:07:20 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:07:20 GMT Message-Id: <201112261107.pBQB7Kg0022684@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:07:21 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/162592 x11 [patch] update x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati to 6.14.3 o ports/161480 x11 [patch] x11/luit: don't depend on pty(4), use openpty( o ports/161021 x11 [patch] x11/xkeyboard-config: orphaned dirs when WITHO o ports/160968 x11 [patch] ports/x11/libXi broken manpages o ports/160963 x11 [patch] x11/bigreqsproto: disable specs p ports/160357 x11 x11/dri2proto port update o ports/160354 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel29 port update o ports/159792 x11 [patch] USB HID devices support for x11-drivers/xf86-i o ports/158529 x11 [patch] x11-servers/xorg-server: conditionalize --with o ports/158513 x11 Broken Xvideo in x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel drivers o ports/157282 x11 [MAINTAINER PATCH] net/xrdp: effective login name is n o ports/156949 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati 6.14.1 produce black blank f ports/156424 x11 8.2R xrandr & xf86-video-intel & xorg-server packages o ports/156405 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati driver: no hardware renderi o ports/156369 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware: DPI value wrong calcula o ports/156368 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware: pwcview does not work o ports/156042 x11 x11/xorg hang in combination with KWin-Tiling o ports/155696 x11 [patch] x11-servers/xorg-server: chase AIGLX altered d o ports/155683 x11 x11/xdm [patch] Enabling IPv6 support breaks IPv4 o ports/154651 x11 [PATCH] graphics/dri: make it possible to choose which f ports/154510 x11 [patch] x11/xorg: xorg servers have Motif-crippling bu o ports/154502 x11 x11/xdm authorization failure when used with E17 windo o ports/154449 x11 x11/xorg: missing manpage (7) Xsecurity o ports/154423 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd: radeon xorg driver ca o ports/153593 x11 graphics/dri: clutter segfault, something to do with i o ports/153495 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati wavy line problem for lenov o ports/153358 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel: Intel driver freeze with o ports/152159 x11 [hang] xorg/x11: X11 freezes with Intel Mobile 965 and o ports/151596 x11 x11/xorg: wacom bamboo button 1 no longer works o ports/150633 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: KVM switching causing X serve o ports/150155 x11 x11/xorg hangs after xrandr(1) usage o ports/149743 x11 x11/xorg: garbled window since Xorg-7.5 o ports/149636 x11 x11/xorg: buffer overflow in pci_device_freebsd_read_r o ports/148591 x11 information note for x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics o ports/148444 x11 [hang] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel: intel driver free f ports/148340 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-neomagic: unresolved symbol xf8 o ports/147318 x11 [Patch]graphics/libdrm:Fix the PLIST when define WITHO o ports/147149 x11 x11/xorg: Xorg 7.5 hangs o ports/146460 x11 x11/xorg: crash after upgrade to v7.5 with radeon driv o ports/146321 x11 x11/libSM picks the wrong uuid.h o ports/146256 x11 x11/xorg does fails to start after upgrade from 7.4 to o ports/145649 x11 x11/xorg: X server crashes when starting opengl compos o ports/142069 x11 x11/xorg: After adding on a laptop Toshiba Sattelite L o ports/141660 x11 x11/xorg: X can't determine amount of video memory on o ports/139011 x11 [patch] Add options to support GLX TLS in x11-servers o ports/135276 x11 x11/xorg: GUI running first time only while using Free o ports/134132 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: Intel i845 - xorg.conf with U o ports/131930 x11 [PATCH] x11-servers/xorg-server coredumps on exit o ports/131726 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: xorg server messes with my eh s kern/130478 x11 [request] Port Linux kernel stub of nouveau to FreeBSD o ports/122830 x11 x11/xorg: Error in I830WaitLpRing() o ports/120947 x11 x11/xsm ignores system.xsm and .xsmstartup s ports/117907 x11 x11-servers/mga_hal broken on 7.0-BETA (GLIBC error) 53 problems total. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 11:44:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2480C106567B; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91688FC14; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32B4F25D3899; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D111BD7D21; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vRJdzWR5ftSA; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orange-en1.sbone.de (orange-en1.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31:cabc:c8ff:fecf:e8e3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E33AFBD7D20; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:47 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <08872889-6F28-4637-B557-BBEDED9943DE@lists.zabbadoz.net> References: To: Eitan Adler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: x11@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd ports Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:53 -0000 On 26. Dec 2011, at 02:22 , Eitan Adler wrote: > Hi porters, > > The X11BASE variable has been deprecated for a long time. Support for > having a X11BASE different than LOCALBASE was terminated on > 2009/12/18. After the 9.0 release I will commit a patch that removes > all current references of the variable from bsd.port.mk and > bsd.xorg.mk. In the meantime I will be adding some helper code to a > few ports that still depend on it. New ports should not reference > X11BASE at all. Once that is done, can we also simplify the openssh Makefile(s)? Cc:ing des for that. /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! Stop bit received. Insert coin for new address family. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 17:00:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1298A1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from super_bisquit@yahoo.com) Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 435A18FC15 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2011 16:47:35 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.41] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2011 16:47:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2011 16:47:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 516256.15760.bm@omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 75898 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Dec 2011 16:47:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1324918054; bh=805ic9+XUi2n/gsSO3lE7f2X2sLV561iFLYYfXLqOpM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3Tom9jW1fFs/8YU8yaLNdfP/LKwDLaw1+I8mlJ99+VYPChXaioj4f5p9PiLii+bTX4OztwstGWwRtW1UzdDoYYq9MDRxoxsqyjXqD/uuINJFQlo9mQ32C9SU8/TfWOIleqcQ5LXTFs8n8oR1mTqBNZiHqxLeEousyLh1KK5vYaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n8K0nhHGoDZ62ME1MTPYAifxpAobzveqoqDGkVRq0n4D8xfXeLxE8rrqOag/gsB4RQkm0q1Q0Zf5sKnka0BF0AShMGs/NMK7Sja1Ez/px+EE94E6H8bUpzMXaSTcgdSl/VeqMqFo2Iu1jafUq0ITHzW1XnDy4nYSu+8m591Nq8I=; X-YMail-OSG: R1Vc73MVM1l1ywAwczFQt1Ojqge7li7D4L6EQ5C3JbdTr6a xNATUz2B.3HLb1q5oRgu0inpJQUEFMpJepBm6e6dEacutwWiuREnT7bhjRyT zgzQEEv0F3UxtjD2w7v33igAVHT4TJLQnd2lV52vui8.KKRHlQTTwhoD57sd FQPVnZKBEjwAhLVsJScLbPNNQLB6KpvF75MWqm2W6a60mumdHQ52fs9Uw_2C 7BrQ7s9S9b285bM0RbMm4QoVaAe4gT1r6N5oePh0G4RsHCbhxsutzHOUJ7Xx wn7LYJMI471njMRVubUCPidBKAxXsnJwBnIVqnjZJbTJe3ukZP8HwuFRrmdD 8hA_q2SvbVqvS89oxx5ExDotZejMnTGExV5b1NJX0L0jA3.0YrNpikSdEh6C UH9ab_kzDxBcqpS3QAHSdWHQenfqUet0bZNj5ViaoGscy9q8GLDoZKG5z2Jt 2pB8BoPIPl.xI9nu4 Received: from [173.10.177.85] by web110112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:47:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 Message-ID: <1324918054.73285.YahooMailClassic@web110112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:47:34 -0800 (PST) From: Super Biscuit To: freebsd ports , x11@freebsd.org, Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:00:20 -0000 How will this affect future builds for Tiers 2 & 3 architectures? Aside: is there a way that kdrive, formerly TinyX- will be a build option? --- On Mon, 12/26/11, Eitan Adler wrote: From: Eitan Adler Subject: Heads Up: X11BASE removal To: "freebsd ports" , x11@freebsd.org Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 2:22 AM Hi porters, The X11BASE variable has been deprecated for a long time. Support for having a X11BASE different than LOCALBASE was terminated on 2009/12/18. After the 9.0 release I will commit a patch that removes all current references of the variable from bsd.port.mk and bsd.xorg.mk.=A0 In the meantime I will be adding some helper code to a few ports that still depend on it. New ports should not reference X11BASE at all. Thanks, Eitan Adler _______________________________________________ freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 20:18:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB901065670; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CC68FC17; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so6161235lah.13 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:18:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=o5czXn/f6n3ZbdD+flGCutfxN3EUHjkD3jC1ecSqb5c=; b=IdgtHgiZT4gLmnt0Zy0hAvhtsfxDD3OtusQrdsQx6dyMhMhyprhnHlZu3bCg131G5f YZ2cel7R2Ot4hOQBwsCuPneLvtDH3oUhqsMXTaZr7CLeL8vxWtIGHBdsaNbP92q7pCc+ hIklpr8q/hLoIve9FJh8h3eGZ7sHPKulHhRoY= Received: by 10.152.133.70 with SMTP id pa6mr20740627lab.0.1324930694110; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:18:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.129.8 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:17:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1324918054.73285.YahooMailClassic@web110112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1324918054.73285.YahooMailClassic@web110112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: To: Super Biscuit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd ports Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:18:16 -0000 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Super Biscuit wrote: > > > How will this affect future builds for Tiers 2 & 3 architectures? It should be a NOP commit and shouldn't affect these builds. Note word "should". ;) > Aside: is there a way that kdrive, formerly TinyX- will be a build option? What is that? Build option of what? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 28 14:49:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCC4106566C; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306AF8FC14; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA1F6C2B; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9BFC0868A; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:29:58 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" References: <08872889-6F28-4637-B557-BBEDED9943DE@lists.zabbadoz.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:29:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <08872889-6F28-4637-B557-BBEDED9943DE@lists.zabbadoz.net> (Bjoern A. Zeeb's message of "Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:44:47 +0000") Message-ID: <86r4zopy55.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd ports Subject: Re: Heads Up: X11BASE removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:49:11 -0000 "Bjoern A. Zeeb" writes: > Once that is done, can we also simplify the openssh Makefile(s)? > Cc:ing des for that. Sure. You wouldn't happen to have a patch, would you? :) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 29 23:06:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1C5106564A for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5797F8FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwd18 with SMTP id wd18so14908815obb.13 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:06:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+E36TqRQXIoUPil0GJjplIukh5uPblRWZnoSbSRBceQ=; b=TkTSvxJvjDP5bVYKZuBSK0ljVSX77DRpM98M4XkzRAMTvN9bGd328SCUjL5OQWRfBx ICKKf43Xkp8GuhR8s7NJi1dk9Lx5Z0WptGbObTc43/ohz9qOxPLgLx2as1UaTnYYvUIl 16b4Gyz5emjWEK45ApT8EAQYA/bkJ4aG+iNe8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.2.136 with SMTP id 8mr32616008obu.71.1325198188695; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.152.6 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:36:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:36:28 -0800 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: pfg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:06:57 -0000 (Splitting off one part of the thread to be relevant to the right group; moving x11 mailing list to BCC) On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > --- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees ha scritto: > >> > >> > I use the nvidia driver, no idea what people with ATI >> > cards do. >> >> I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with that, if you >> ever want to try again and you can't work it out get me >> off list ;) >> > > Getting X11 to run on virtualbox from a FreeBSD 9.0 CD > installation is pretty much a nightmare. Is there something > about it in the users handbook? A wiki page about setting up > X11 on FreeBSD would do it too. Perhaps we should write one. There is a chapter in the handbook [1], but what I've learned from the last go-around setting up X11 4 months ago, is that it's smart to do: cd x11/xorg make config-recursive make install # An hour or so passes by on a fast machine echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf echo 'hald_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf service dbus start service hald start startx That's it. Generally no configuration is required for X.org to work on hardware (in fact I'm not using an xorg.conf right now. after I blasted away my packages due to the CURRENT 9 -> 10 major version bump..). You'll need to pimp your install to do non-standard stuff via nvidia-settings, not use hald, etc, but the X.org supplied method seems to work the majority of the time if you have standard hardware, compared to the hoops one needed to go through when setting up XFree86 or earlier versions of X.org. Cheers, -Garrett 1. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 29 23:26:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB41065678 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@freebsd.org) Received: from nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2D308FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 23:13:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.192] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 23:13:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 23:13:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 49957.36987.bm@omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 23723 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2011 23:13:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1325200420; bh=08tIBKgbRiWuIbBmFRGZQ2C9yP4boMRXBpqOiyKdy/0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fSGeQEX53tnEIwZYdDrDTsa68X2dbEAdoylDaRKxnncTBhRdCjAdIqboYpcjeYpT9Tqq/aZ6gbN3uCwCr2x56u23lHyD2GFByvkmyx4Xgx1+M95nLyo+TqkE1oOapHP+QyaUMszRTxeVtFB5RV4VIXcnkZ6Q1YNGr/2z4PEuq/8= X-YMail-OSG: 97JQEeEVM1niN7Qyw1eTlBwp8z3ChdgN6kby5wt1vybU9Tn vkRhVKvQZOeIk1ESJmzOQvY8BOuk55YTpXwrLXYXWZ.l83td37.J721ORSFZ b3BT.6YwSvGc4FgTQjPSrMFe7LxSaPwsnIoZjyHBG4ChHI55QjFO87cS1GAB uv2ICtnW2lGIWTkPFBuOILCsZ6PIAtWRAGzxjcTUW45uiwWzxUQxhr6dhIQf qEYVC.KDI0Vd3n1s2_Ky_vVL6oGM7cvvaKnKR2aBgXS9hp2SQZmrNi2lv2A7 IFEyf4zIWW.2TcLA0AEcGkqNzKLn2TX5OCJZuGdm2ztuPMUhcd8loJ6..z_p kT5FUNHKDgnTrdVssIgEa5uPal2nH2AmaAa8k22UckzPUTkPxqoEXTZu1.1j 2Zm4YtF4SMdl5KO4Oi__fuGjnIFvKD7qJvqhkq8w77AA6Iz6AoSQJ9J7yoI2 JfldNH7rocSX7OQtWoT37CuFgwWDc8lP.7hSwp._eeSdMHwymMC7JjylQIO_ md9FwX0DQV4YKxF82Z0uE4YMA.eUv9Mx20465MEw- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:13:40 PST X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 Message-ID: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:13:40 -0800 (PST) From: Pedro Giffuni To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: R: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pfg@freebsd.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:26:03 -0000 Hi Garrett;=0A=0A--- Gio 29/12/11, Garrett Cooper ha s= critto:=0A...=0A> >=0A> > Getting X11 to run on virtualbox from a FreeBSD 9= .0=0A> > CD installation is pretty much a nightmare. Is there=0A> > somethi= ng about it in the users handbook? A wiki page=0A> > about setting up X11 o= n FreeBSD would do it too.=0A> > Perhaps we should write one.=0A> =0A> Ther= e is a chapter in the handbook [1], but what I've=0A> learned from the last= go-around setting up X11 4 months=0A> ago, is that it's smart to do:=0A> = =0A> cd x11/xorg=0A> make config-recursive=0A> make install=0A> # An hour o= r so passes by on a fast machine=0A=0AThis is the part I specifically want = to avoid. No=0Aone downloads a DVD to have to build X11 as a port.=0A=0A=0A= > echo 'dbus_enable=3D"YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf=0A> echo 'hald_enable=3D"YES"'= >> /etc/rc.conf=0A=0AOf course this I can do but it's something=0Athe pack= age should do.=0A=0A> service dbus start=0A> service hald start=0A> startx= =0A>=0A=0AUnfortunately this is usually not enough. In the=0Acase of Virtua= lBox, you have to check this:=0Ahttp://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox=0A=0AThe= HAL part is not at all obvious and it is not=0Afun to have to check this s= tuff on the web.=0A=0AFor those on this list wondering ... I am not=0Acompl= aining, I was just commenting how horribly=0Adifficult it became to install= FreeBSD and X11=0Acompared to the past when everything would install=0Afin= e with one floppy and no documentation ;).=0A=0AI moved to PC-BSD.=0A=0APed= ro. =0A From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 30 00:44:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249DE106566C for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0457A8FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5502F56172; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:26:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:26:47 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Pedro Giffuni Message-ID: <20111230002647.GA30324@lonesome.com> References: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: R: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:44:17 -0000 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 03:13:40PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > For those on this list wondering ... I am not > complaining, I was just commenting how horribly > difficult it became to install FreeBSD and X11 > compared to the past when everything would install > fine with one floppy and no documentation ;). Yeah. No one here's defending the mess that X11 has become. > I moved to PC-BSD. I've been real happy with them for the desktop and laptops here. I have a pfSense firewall and everything else is stock FreeBSD. "The right tool for the job" and all. mcl From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 30 01:53:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83C61065670 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655EB8FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBU1r6oc037801; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:53:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pBU1r4Cu037798; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:53:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:53:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Pedro Giffuni In-Reply-To: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:53:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: R: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:53:07 -0000 On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi Garrett; > > --- Gio 29/12/11, Garrett Cooper ha scritto: > ... >> cd x11/xorg >> make config-recursive >> make install >> # An hour or so passes by on a fast machine > > This is the part I specifically want to avoid. No > one downloads a DVD to have to build X11 as a port. > >> echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf >> echo 'hald_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf > > Of course this I can do but it's something > the package should do. > >> service dbus start >> service hald start >> startx > > Unfortunately this is usually not enough. In the > case of VirtualBox, you have to check this: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox What more did you have to do? Installing xorg and enabling/starting dbus and hal is all I did on a fresh install of 9.0-RC3 amd64 in VirtualBox just now. > The HAL part is not at all obvious and it is not > fun to have to check this stuff on the web. It is in the Handbook X11 config section. Or you can turn off AutoAddDevices in xorg.conf and hal is not needed. That's also in the Handbook X11 config section. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 30 02:35:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580C9106564A for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@freebsd.org) Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DE338FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2011 02:22:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.22] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2011 02:22:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2011 02:22:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 517405.35997.bm@omp1022.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 61141 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 2011 02:22:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1325211722; bh=t6sFiis80CqzR4A1Qo1/X5oYmuZWQ14KwYcRXfOoZ6g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lf13i5HFtK7Q6yST8BTKhs5nbZuhQg6qLVr2Cp9//ZwqKlJiQ9fyj/A6bmzlBN2xtRqJdJndcKygf0mJNNIa0DoTrOoBwjqsbsRJwkgtEyD5TsNqH3+vd8Y2tOybDSqy5uQOOF6kwA+m5gJI8F7k6S9dMoSlI1iVS229HoqnVlo= X-YMail-OSG: _Oh1DZQVM1loeJomGWONpkF0MVkFKSaQk9qf8qW5MigI12o zsXyxtNESmwJZ4IjkcwM1nq7l2MJx24wNkhZhr6gvgUmiICURUJAr.vuP5aF PEpZcF_QnjKEP.UaRuiwa3xf3rQ9Mti1gxOqXp3UfCEarmI1PEND0HLCLXnS IKz9.omzm36w_dQ2UlXmJPDhXAtcOLPoVRDFCq6IWEhtimh_VpiT4hNv_nhE _VXHXVyfHsHe8q3xh2g_AcB0oajzVWdzc0B8.JT5.7gc3Upset1WVYyk9Txm R.YuHLe62LLUEp2dGPydybLTFEHE8vl7HGw4Ix1ZwC.a8FcpiTf5aARwTAgg ewy2Gdd3ggE7KMzc4YYSoofckWKjwf7SQTkYsLDo2BurMcdMoFKSYMofM.sg RfQpmXOx5sTIRA3HvmW4dTkRTy7uh920dO2ipZuDtrkZ3BJMI.BuQGoTx1qv eoWl_ZZ.f8W.vNE2d1PrgoGih9XZ2y3.FgVFVX6w4gPlX8clztXbwSxUFAWv uYKItGCp_ltV.3FYt9iK.rqI47r49ISCmDtidUjPOtw-- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:22:02 PST X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 Message-ID: <1325211722.58257.YahooMailClassic@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: Pedro Giffuni To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: R: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pfg@freebsd.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:35:22 -0000 Hi Warren;=0A=0A--- Gio 29/12/11, Warren Block ha scri= tto:=0A...=0A> >=0A> > Unfortunately this is usually not enough. In the=0A>= > case of VirtualBox, you have to check this:=0A> > http://wiki.freebsd.or= g/VirtualBox=0A> =0A> What more did you have to do?=0A> =0A> Installing xor= g and enabling/starting dbus and hal is all I=0A> did on a =0A> fresh insta= ll of 9.0-RC3 amd64 in VirtualBox just now.=0A> =0A=0ATBH, at the time ther= e had been some USB changes and=0Athe instructions to setup hal were not up= to date.=0AI recall the worst of all was having to *type* the=0Aconfigurat= ion files. It simply didn't work and I=0Aeventually gave up on setting up t= he i386 test VM:=0AI do everything on the native amd64 partition=0Aanyways.= =0A=0A> > The HAL part is not at all obvious and it is not=0A> > fun to hav= e to check this stuff on the web.=0A> =0A> It is in the Handbook X11 config= section.=A0 Or you can=0A> turn off =0A> AutoAddDevices in xorg.conf and h= al is not needed.=A0=0A> That's also in the =0A> Handbook X11 config sectio= n.=0A> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h= tml=0A> =0A=0ANice. If I ever do it on my own again I will try it :).=0A=0A= Pedro. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 30 02:43:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839D5106566B for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FBC8FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so7415228lah.13 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:43:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=gacM+36Bbgtg6GIMlGsITU+FhUQrssN9826TCuKx87Q=; b=VsxllNWVaKtp9Ti1p3aW8IFqjRw9+xd9MmbgawcFI/bDfxEejiLYUfIakbmmrWNAUz ttJtig/eBUlDaX2ZlKeESvrwE5KmKsmtecZ6W3v1sBBbvudx30ufU1gMUd0mjzPZaLoe DpLpEcGsc0L6tNyKPYrSdN0SWUAYUYx0feWGM= Received: by 10.152.103.71 with SMTP id fu7mr30291274lab.31.1325213007607; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:43:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.129.8 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:42:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:42:56 -0500 Message-ID: To: pfg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:43:29 -0000 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >> cd x11/xorg >> make config-recursive >> make install >> # An hour or so passes by on a fast machine > > This is the part I specifically want to avoid. No > one downloads a DVD to have to build X11 as a port. Try x11-minimal instead. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 30 02:47:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80CF106566C; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A389A8FC0A; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwd18 with SMTP id wd18so15033692obb.13 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:47:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=X9fHaxD3oqcs9vUKb3RDaH81jWqaRA+3GUcZ6o8dHz8=; b=TWuEON0EloG8jkMHr1kIqegHdqGC+r5Md2oqbq8j4IfRU7coDTep6bQHtPk29ETJdT kRLNFqiZaQCQzpnRxEDnqsHrxGudQYcR80sX+77kMRKwDVzZMJ6I7zGpzbDXXoNXK0Xq z5kGYEI184elUSvOMTeyDE0TwtKw232H8AsFM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.159.70 with SMTP id xa6mr33075800obb.1.1325213263185; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.152.6 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:47:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1325200420.23680.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:47:43 -0800 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, pfg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was "Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool") X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:47:44 -0000 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>> >>> cd x11/xorg >>> make config-recursive >>> make install >>> # An hour or so passes by on a fast machine >> >> This is the part I specifically want to avoid. No >> one downloads a DVD to have to build X11 as a port. > > Try x11-minimal instead. That works too. I was just trying to provide a quick and dirty method of installing everything from scratch. I'm sure there are more suitable packages for achieving the same means to the end pfg@ is seeking. Thanks, -Garrett