From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 18:06:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A53B1065670 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Received: from mail.data.com.mx (dns3.intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0B78FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.icsmx.com (dsl-189-144-55-131-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.144.55.131] (may be forged)) by krusty.intranet.com.mx (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q34I6f5K044386 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:06:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Message-Id: <201204041806.q34I6f5K044386@krusty.intranet.com.mx> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:05:30 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:06:04 -0000 Hello all. I was wondering if you can give me your advice on the following. A person that works on the following company: ----------------------- SEDO (sedo.com) Manager regional - Am=E9rica Latina Sedo GmbH :: Colonia :: Alemania tel +49 221.34030.143 ----------------------- Contacted me telling he she has a client=20 interested in one domain we have and that she=20 will represent them in case we were interested in=20 selling. Talking by phone with her she mentioned,=20 by error I guess, the name of a big company in=20 France (immediately change subject after=20 mentioned that and did not wanted to confirm the=20 name so we are not sure it is). She has been=20 insisting in making an offer, we said we would=20 like to see the numbers they offer. She did it=20 and after asking the procedure to follow in case=20 we say yes she told us that the procedure is to=20 pass, give the domain to their client and once=20 they say they received and have total control of=20 it then they will receive orders to release=20 money. Of course we say No and they have been insisting about buying it. Have you ever heard of them? I feel that procedure is a total risk in our side=20 since maybe once with the control of the domain=20 their client won't pay them and of course if they=20 pay them even this company could not pay us. For those of you who have done selling of=20 domains. What's the normal procedure to follow? Do you know of a company you can trust to let=20 them try to sell some domains we are interested in selling? Thanks in advance for all your comments. Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 18:07:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6EE1065675 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E588FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.55.131) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:00:01 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:59:48 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:07:05 -0000 Hello all. I was wondering if you can give me your advice on the following. A person that works on the following company: ----------------------- SEDO (sedo.com) Manager regional - Am=E9rica Latina Sedo GmbH :: Colonia :: Alemania tel +49 221.34030.143 ----------------------- Contacted me telling he she has a client=20 interested in one domain we have and that she=20 will represent them in case we were interested in=20 selling. Talking by phone with her she mentioned,=20 by error I guess, the name of a big company in=20 France (immediately change subject after=20 mentioned that and did not wanted to confirm the=20 name so we are not sure it is). She has been=20 insisting in making an offer, we said we would=20 like to see the numbers they offer. She did it=20 and after asking the procedure to follow in case=20 we say yes she told us that the procedure is to=20 pass, give the domain to their client and once=20 they say they received and have total control of=20 it then they will receive orders to release=20 money. Of course we say No and they have been insisting about buying it. Have you ever heard of them? I feel that procedure is a total risk in our side=20 since maybe once with the control of the domain=20 their client won't pay them and of course if they=20 pay them even this company could not pay us. For those of you who have done selling of=20 domains. What's the normal procedure to follow? Do you know of a company you can trust to let=20 them try to sell some domains we are interested in selling? Thanks in advance for all your comments. Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 18:35:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FCC106566B for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@sigsegv.be) Received: from mercury.codepro.be (mercury.codepro.be [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc0:51:216:3eff:feb7:3147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB1E8FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from adrastea.jupiter.sigsegv.be (adrastea.jupiter.sigsegv.be [IPv6:2001:6f8:1498:1::3]) by mercury.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B7739B; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:35:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thebe.jupiter.sigsegv.be (thebe.jupiter.sigsegv.be [172.16.1.5]) by adrastea.jupiter.sigsegv.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AF91B34; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by thebe.jupiter.sigsegv.be (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E4101C9A9; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:34:52 +0200 From: Kristof Provost To: Jorge Biquez Message-ID: <20120404183447.GO9275@thebe.jupiter.sigsegv.be> References: <201204041806.q34I6f5K044386@krusty.intranet.com.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201204041806.q34I6f5K044386@krusty.intranet.com.mx> X-PGP-Fingerprint: E114 D9EA 909E D469 8F57 17A5 7D15 91C6 9EFA F286 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:35:26 -0000 On 2012-04-04 13:05:30 (-0500), Jorge Biquez wrote: > I was wondering if you can give me your advice on the following. > > A person that works on the following company: > > ----------------------- > SEDO > (sedo.com) > Manager regional - América Latina > Sedo GmbH :: Colonia :: Alemania > tel +49 221.34030.143 > ----------------------- > > Have you ever heard of them? > I've heard of them. I've even tried to buy a couple of domains through them. It didn't work out, but not because of anything they did, but because I refused to give large amounts of money to sleazy domain squatters. >From what little research I did at the time I *think* Sedo as such is reasonably trustworthy. > I feel that procedure is a total risk in our side > since maybe once with the control of the domain > their client won't pay them and of course if they > pay them even this company could not pay us. > I suspect the procedure is for you to hand over the domain to Sedo, and they hand it over to the final client once the payment is done. It's possible that the procedure could be different if the domain in question is very expensive, I wouldn't know. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 06:47:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6C01065679 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 06:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464BF8FC1F for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 06:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so774980qcs.13 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 23:47:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=kuiv8qJgA3QKZK+vmkcNpuWSJBl6fLan1LB+F9pAvgc=; b=GVmdZkOZC/KM1DJ2NdmD65i3RBJuJNTQhzG/R6a8wiJaSmy8w3kJXH5bRyo7o2njRt H3dGU6Bm4IgVw7nk2oXduwzO3PvWTK6cDvcL/AQQE9Sn80TEKKTotsaX7oYrAUvPoKKt 2eX4JuTH1tiN19K2azq0cxQe/XoOtPyoqWjMo8DGUNy6ligfIODLeE0hlyU8l5AftiXc 3UW2cwIdO6H5uP+lnVyDabY0nYrAMD7lEwZ0q9oBFp5cgaR8jSNsT4BGkjJWmA8JJQ5w dYpFVM97vKGqw2VJr8IL350Re2L1gv3l6pjYDyILK6l3kKR+lP9YaGt/i7EvmlVWVMFi Tu/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.136.212 with SMTP id s20mr487689qct.118.1333608452746; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 23:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.185.6 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:47:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> References: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:47:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: William Palfreman To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm23y7s68bXevRcZbCwjYV0y3XVMZsrcnwvbe1S8JEGwoiKnmxFFKM8HDuou0BqVDZOnY1x Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:47:33 -0000 Interesting. A domain makler. It is a type of business I have normally seen in connection with renting and buying houses in Germany. A third party insinuates himself between buyer and seller, and you end up paying them enormous fees for something that you could have worked out yourself. Both parties lose by employing such an agent. Plus you will have to hand over your domain before receiving payment, and maybe end up having to chase them in court when they don't pay. They have probably already told the other side they will sell them the domain. My advice is to do nothing until the real end-client contacts you. On 4 April 2012 19:59, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > I was wondering if you can give me your advice on the following. > > A person that works on the following company: > > ----------------------- > SEDO > (sedo.com) > Manager regional - =A0Am=E9rica Latina > Sedo GmbH :: Colonia :: Alemania > tel +49 221.34030.143 > ----------------------- > > Contacted me telling he she has a client interested in one domain we have > and that she will represent them in case we were interested in selling. > Talking by phone with her she mentioned, by error I guess, =A0the name of= a > big company in France (immediately change subject after mentioned that an= d > did not wanted to confirm the name so we are not sure it is). She has bee= n > insisting in making an offer, we said we would like to see the numbers th= ey > offer. She did it and after asking the procedure to follow in case we say > yes she told us that the procedure is to pass, give the domain to their > client and once they say they received and have total control of it then > they will receive orders to release money. Of course we say No and they h= ave > been insisting about buying it. > > Have you ever heard of them? > > I feel that procedure is a total risk in our side since maybe once with t= he > control of the domain their client won't pay them and of course if they p= ay > them even this company could not pay us. > > For those of you who have done selling of domains. What's the normal > procedure to follow? > > Do you know of a company you can trust to let them try to sell some domai= ns > we are interested in selling? > > Thanks in advance for all your comments. > > Jorge Biquez > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 11:13:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F49D106564A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tal@whatexit.org) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FCE8FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so2146163lag.13 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:13:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=whatexit.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QeTLYhbP/GUnC5CWcKji1OI96SpJGhgsTxoP96hubic=; b=BkbSzd7NGh21AhkqtcbHrsU/C3XHpW2CG9AoqOQGTwd6sic0OwCq1zb7V90F4CyXLD DnI5bLzWv/TNLS6ad0z2hi3NGipS8XsETPByc5y8Hs/ZKYgGWXIXv26IqhPINSS1IqZ1 HC0VILK7gNR0Hzp/0DtS92sDWvI+4RjnuYTBw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=QeTLYhbP/GUnC5CWcKji1OI96SpJGhgsTxoP96hubic=; b=M32uJMag0D3IADsQa89KosDti6Jv26j9M1x0F6B7I9julU7td0d7ck5tHBtiyX65w+ amseO97k7voEOvJW7RV4SjKKQuj0KqPFQyVt2OgDp2kIlz/FzTJs6+dlfAlvyCos1i3d 07z6SsSZvddJK/vWC1aDimyQetcB9NLau5OH4VxzNRiDMZfzi1n5FIKV9tKCugEvuGWq nyh/o4URPQo28VCA3mGXOqiB+LohPdlLzqzeZdIyRQtdIsnK+RxCdOzsTv64676hdSnn JeKhYq68kXi+UWFnCsUTLftujkWUoSDn7X0wxwU5GgP3nep3McRKivwotmDfjlTu5OXj b9+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.132.132 with SMTP id ou4mr2489484lab.26.1333624386589; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.38.39 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:13:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:13:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: Tom Limoncelli To: William Palfreman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnQfdcx3qj/kEn7KCH3b+e4hrGxVInbStq8RS5Oq1WyKHAoEqdT1Xt1HxovPbDwLwr1JT0a Cc: Jorge Biquez , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:13:08 -0000 I get emails list this all the time. Most of the time it turns out they are a scam or they don't actually have a buyer but want me to buy their service where they seek buyers for me. Either way, I'm not interested. I always reply: "I only consider serious offers and serious offers are more than $10,000". That always gets rid of the scammers/spammers. Here's why: Websites that do "valuations" of domains tell me my domains are all worth about $100-$200 for the .orgs and $200-$300 for the .coms. Changing my domain would cause me about $x,000 pain for y months (x and y are secret). When a company wants a domain and is serious the absolute minimum they offer is $10,000 (and the max I've seen is $100,000 (verified) or $1,000,000 (unverified)). I don't want to scare away a real offer but I also want to get rid of the spammers and scammers. Tom From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 13:33:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9891065673 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from web.podro.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f7d0:300:1::100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1968FC1A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web.podro.com (web.podro.com [65.18.192.166]) by web.podro.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q35DXOqJ042042; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:33:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from ns1.podro.com (ns1.podro.com [65.18.192.210]) by web.podro.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q35DXMd9042039; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:33:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) X-Authentication-Warning: web.podro.com: joe set sender to jamie@geniegate.com using -f Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:33:21 -0500 From: Jamie To: Jorge Biquez Message-ID: <20120405133321.GI23929@mule.podro.com> References: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:33:26 -0000 I suppose it depends on how much the domain name is worth to you? Personally, I wouldn't sell "my" main domains for anything under 250k, but thats because I've invested a lot of work into them. Of course, you don't really own a domain any more than you own a word or an acre on mars.. it's all perceived value... and thats the crux of it all. If you loose "your" domain name, how much are you out? I'd probably insist on speaking with the end buyer, wanting to make sure they don't link my domain name into something less than honorable. Jamie On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:59:48PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > I was wondering if you can give me your advice on the following. > > A person that works on the following company: > > ----------------------- > SEDO > (sedo.com) > Manager regional - Am?rica Latina > Sedo GmbH :: Colonia :: Alemania > tel +49 221.34030.143 > ----------------------- > > Contacted me telling he she has a client > interested in one domain we have and that she > will represent them in case we were interested in > selling. Talking by phone with her she mentioned, > by error I guess, the name of a big company in > France (immediately change subject after > mentioned that and did not wanted to confirm the > name so we are not sure it is). She has been > insisting in making an offer, we said we would > like to see the numbers they offer. She did it > and after asking the procedure to follow in case > we say yes she told us that the procedure is to > pass, give the domain to their client and once > they say they received and have total control of > it then they will receive orders to release > money. Of course we say No and they have been insisting about buying it. > > Have you ever heard of them? > > I feel that procedure is a total risk in our side > since maybe once with the control of the domain > their client won't pay them and of course if they > pay them even this company could not pay us. > > For those of you who have done selling of > domains. What's the normal procedure to follow? > > Do you know of a company you can trust to let > them try to sell some domains we are interested in selling? > > Thanks in advance for all your comments. > > Jorge Biquez > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 13:39:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EDF1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from web.podro.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f7d0:300:1::100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280958FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web.podro.com (web.podro.com [65.18.192.166]) by web.podro.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q35DdfOQ042206 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:39:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from ns1.podro.com (ns1.podro.com [65.18.192.210]) by web.podro.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q35DdfRW042204 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:39:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) X-Authentication-Warning: web.podro.com: joe set sender to jamie@geniegate.com using -f Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:39:41 -0500 From: Jamie To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120405133941.GJ23929@mule.podro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Fetch network in/out statistics? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:39:42 -0000 I've seen this before, but I can't remember the name of the command. Basically, I want to fetch the in/out bytes of a given interface over a sampling time. something like: fetch-stats re0 lo0 in out re0 1205124 5012364 lo0 12348 54212 ... ...... ....... (Would be better if it gave me the stats for each IP number assigned to the interface) I tried trafd and some other stuff, but trafd gives me way too much information, and I don't want my network monitor to be the "main" application running... I just want something I can easily feed into mrtg (w/out snmp or, ideally, any daemons besides cron) Can you remember the name of the command that does that? Jamie -- http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 13:45:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084AE1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6F48FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q35DjD4E043670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:45:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q35DjD4E043670 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q35DjD4E043670; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F7DA1E2.10008@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:45:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie References: <20120405133941.GJ23929@mule.podro.com> In-Reply-To: <20120405133941.GJ23929@mule.podro.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA681A140989366651D7ED34E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Fetch network in/out statistics? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:45:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA681A140989366651D7ED34E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/04/2012 14:39, Jamie wrote: > something like: fetch-stats re0 lo0 >=20 > in out > re0 1205124 5012364 > lo0 12348 54212 > ... ...... ....... netstat -i Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigA681A140989366651D7ED34E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk99oegACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzueACdG674Bk5M2WV7lHi+0KOcOlRH taEAniKx9zqqGmOyd4KRWRfaxuzqkvms =dU1V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA681A140989366651D7ED34E-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 15:25:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D6B106566C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BC98FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.55.131) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:25:38 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:25:09 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <20120405133321.GI23929@mule.podro.com> References: <3416407202-176953988@intranet.com.mx> <20120405133321.GI23929@mule.podro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3416484341-176954218@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Re: Off Topic.Advice please. Domain selling. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:25:35 -0000 Hello all. THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your valuable comments. Yes, I guess that company already told the client they will sell them the domain directly and of course what they are offering me is just a part of what they will be selling to final client. I will tell them to use escrow.com if they are serious and do all the procedure of selling/buying the domain that way. I won't give them the domain to them like they want and wait for my payment once the client pay them (of course lot of things can happen like maybe the client do not pay them or they decide that since all is done they do not pay me) Let's see what happens. Thanks again for your comments and valuable time. Jorge Biquez At 08:33 a.m. 05/04/2012, Jamie wrote: >I suppose it depends on how much the domain name is worth to you? > >Personally, I wouldn't sell "my" main domains for anything under 250k, >but thats because I've invested a lot of work into them. > >Of course, you don't really own a domain any more than you own a >word or an acre on mars.. it's all perceived value... and thats >the crux of it all. If you loose "your" domain name, how much are you >out? > >I'd probably insist on speaking with the end buyer, wanting to make sure they >don't link my domain name into something less than honorable. > >Jamie > >On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:59:48PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > Hello all. > > > > I was wondering if you can give me your advice on the following. > > > > A person that works on the following company: > > > > ----------------------- > > SEDO > > (sedo.com) > > Manager regional - Am?rica Latina > > Sedo GmbH :: Colonia :: Alemania > > tel +49 221.34030.143 > > ----------------------- > > > > Contacted me telling he she has a client > > interested in one domain we have and that she > > will represent them in case we were interested in > > selling. Talking by phone with her she mentioned, > > by error I guess, the name of a big company in > > France (immediately change subject after > > mentioned that and did not wanted to confirm the > > name so we are not sure it is). She has been > > insisting in making an offer, we said we would > > like to see the numbers they offer. She did it > > and after asking the procedure to follow in case > > we say yes she told us that the procedure is to > > pass, give the domain to their client and once > > they say they received and have total control of > > it then they will receive orders to release > > money. Of course we say No and they have been insisting about buying it. > > > > Have you ever heard of them? > > > > I feel that procedure is a total risk in our side > > since maybe once with the control of the domain > > their client won't pay them and of course if they > > pay them even this company could not pay us. > > > > For those of you who have done selling of > > domains. What's the normal procedure to follow? > > > > Do you know of a company you can trust to let > > them try to sell some domains we are interested in selling? > > > > Thanks in advance for all your comments. > > > > Jorge Biquez > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- >http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming >Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 09:40:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70788106566B for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 09:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from genghiskhan@gmx.ca) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08DA28FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Apr 2012 09:40:41 -0000 Received: from IGLD-80-230-9-111.inter.net.il (EHLO acer) [80.230.9.111] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu003) with SMTP; 06 Apr 2012 11:40:41 +0200 X-Authenticated: #115605484 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX199bvJfjBd9SoSYNTn9bxlSliwzS0QpZlJRddyq/q okutS8SB++Q85H Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:48:57 +0300 From: Genghis Khan To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120406124857.34e5d237@acer> X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: FreeBSD MATE (GNOME2) Project News X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:40:49 -0000 News Feed: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/rss.xml Are we going to adopt MATE? MATE is a fork of GNOME2 and is also planned to be ported to GTK3. Homepage: http://mate-desktop.org/ News: http://planet.mate-desktop.org/ Sources: https://github.com/mate-desktop Wiki: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/