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Date:      Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:26:47 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Darrel <levitch@iglou.com>
To:        Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: manual page | zpool-features
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> snip
>> 
>> Actually, I am becoming suspicious that FreeBSD does not maintain a OpenBSD 
>> Packet Firewall that survives upgrades.  Perhaps I should just take all of 
>> the Packet Firewall stuff out of my kernel and learn to use ipfw2.
>> 
>> 
>> Darrel
>> 
>> 
>
> On the subject of OpenBSD Packet Firewall
>
> OpenBSD 4.5 version of PF firewall which is included with the base FreeBSD 
> 8.x and 9.x releases is no longer supported by OpenBSD and very back level.
>
> The most current version of OpenBSD is 5.1. PF version 5.0 changed the syntax 
> of the NAT statement making PF no longer backwards compatible which breaks 
> some Freebsd standard, so updated versions of OpenBSD PF will no longer be 
> mass ported to FreeBSD. Any bug fix code to OpenBSD PF will have to be 
> incorporated by hand into FreeBSD's version of PF from this point on.
>
> The following will shine some more light on the subject.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=167057
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2012-September/006740.html
>
>

Thank you.  This information is good to know since I recompiled parts of 
Packet Firewall and then rebooted the machine with no working Packet 
Filter as a result.

I have adjusted to the changes and am running OpenBSD 5.1 on my perimeter. 
Also, I am experimenting with NPF on NetBSD, which has a few bugs but 
generally works just fine tested with 'nmap' and the like.  For FreeBSD, I 
will change to IPFW.  It might be useful anyhow, since I have a Macintosh 
and will eventually probably get another.  I would guess that the 
Macintosh firewall is still 'ipfw2', or something not too dissimilar.

There is just no sense banging my head against a wall and repearting 
mistakes that actually do not belong to me by trying to run Packet Filter 
on FreeBSD.

Darrel



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