From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 26 23:10:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEC5106564A for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15A78FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7QNA1Is080306 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:10:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7QNA1DZ080305; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:10:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:10:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201208262310.q7QNA1DZ080305@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joe Barbish Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53855106564A for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8938FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7QN0NVD039200 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:00:23 GMT (envelope-from nobody@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q7QN0N8W039198; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:00:23 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201208262300.q7QN0N8W039198@red.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:00:23 GMT From: Joe Barbish To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/171098: handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:10:11 -0000 >Number: 171098 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 26 23:10:01 UTC 2012 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joe Barbish >Release: 9.0 >Organization: none >Environment: >Description: burncd no longer works as of changes made to 9.0. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/160979 The handbook section "19.6.3 burncd" needs to be removed. The rest of the handbook should be scaned for word burncd and those places also removed. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 26 23:30:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC30F106566C for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D3B8FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7QNU37t082633 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:30:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7QNU3pl082632; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:30:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:30:03 GMT Message-Id: <201208262330.q7QNU3pl082632@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Glen Barber Cc: Subject: Re: docs/171098: handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Glen Barber List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:30:13 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/171098; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Glen Barber To: Joe Barbish Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/171098: handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:21:55 -0400 --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:00:23PM +0000, Joe Barbish wrote: > >Description: > burncd no longer works as of changes made to 9.0.=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dbin/160979 >=20 > The handbook section "19.6.3 burncd" needs > to be removed. The rest of the handbook should be scaned for word > burncd and those places also removed. >=20 Since 8.x and 7.4-RELEASE are still supported, these references should not be removed. Instead, notes mentioning relevant necessary changes for 9.x should be added. Glen --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJQOq+TAAoJEFJPDDeguUaj1UQIAIoyCifUILrRJR6uVjxny076 r76eBqdmr02+S4CSSj/qPgLlaul05TUiJHXfUzPGshC3KbLHkq0i7roOfCo8HFwh LImF73PhZhGRBuQZi26XHOsWeb7Zml8kiTZTq7yK4EPRTW4034m072hmbRN4vjwk 0NWIrvpMtsbVrzuzw9bMmX/zx3KHTJr7BUaish6AlEOLfqr3hmbKT4ko0YMgjLTA aJfGbN71inEsk0nsSe6j7nlvPk7yy4F0uXEma2tWJHEP9YS5Cliz8EnxsSDizLrO jDIInVrgU1Qh3Qiwh8uH1L1o1JNGzHwtOLlusXXZu1ZeepOJQ/kETeSOn3dlXrE= =x/Oq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 27 11:06:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99711106566B for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A9E8FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7RB67WZ085039 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:06:07 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7RB661r085037 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <201208271106.q7RB661r085037@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:06:07 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/171098 doc handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed o docs/170965 doc New documentation: Brazilian Portuguese translation of o docs/170814 doc bad url in docs o docs/170691 doc Difference between zfs manpages and reality o docs/170468 doc SGML Tag for QUOTE arent working in HTML conversion o docs/170119 doc at behaviour and man at inconsistency o docs/169712 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_TW.Big5 apache section o docs/169711 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_CN.GB2312 apache section o docs/169544 doc serial port console documentation changes o docs/169377 doc [patch] ipmon(8) man page refers to a different facili o docs/169158 doc [patch] iasl(8) man page is out of date o docs/168962 doc cp(1) & mv(1) pages don't mention ACLs or extended att o docs/168930 doc map_mincore(9) not up-to-date o docs/168915 doc size of integers used by test(1) and sh(1) is not docu o docs/168823 doc 404s in fr_FR French web pages o docs/168803 doc Remove outdated smp info o docs/167742 doc Update documentation for group 5, and newgrp 1 o docs/167741 doc group(5): Group Passwords do not work and are not docu o docs/166553 doc find(1): find -delete documentation is misleading o docs/166358 doc No networking in Jail build via: handbook/jail-tuning o conf/166330 doc [rc] [patch] Thin server configuration revision reques o docs/165657 doc Web site Features page aging o docs/165551 doc ipfw(8): no info in "ipfw pipe show" about ipv6 o docs/165249 doc Multibyte characters in manpages still not displaying o docs/164826 doc handbook ports page does not suggest config-recursive o docs/164803 doc Unclear manual page for mount_unionfs(8) o docs/164620 doc Raid 1 issues o docs/164099 doc gparm(8): man page for gparm set is incorrect and inco o docs/164034 doc acl(9) documentation lacking o docs/163879 doc [handbook] handbook does not say about how to force to o docs/163830 doc device smbios: missing documentation, no manpage o docs/163149 doc [patch] Red Hat Linux/i386 9 HTML format sudo man page o docs/162699 doc Handbook/Upgrading instructions: should mention delete o docs/162587 doc unclear/incomplete description of per-interface statis o docs/162419 doc [request] please document (new) zfs and zpool cmdline o docs/162404 doc [handbook] IPv6 link-local address compared with IPv4 o docs/162380 doc Documentation lacking for getfacl/setfacl o docs/161754 doc p4tcc(4), est(4) and qpi(4) are not documented o docs/161496 doc zfs(1): Please document that sysctl vfs.usermount must o docs/160460 doc [handbook] Network setup guide suggestion o docs/160446 doc [handbook] Handbook sound setup seems outdated o docs/160445 doc [handbook] Handbook does not mention ACL o docs/160399 doc Man page for re(4) missing jumbo frames info o docs/159307 doc [patch] lpd smm chapter unconditionally installed o docs/158388 doc Incorrect documentation of LOCAL_SCRIPT in release(7) o docs/158387 doc The tree(3) man should mention the RB_FOREACH_SAFE() A o docs/157908 doc [handbook] Description of post-install should include o docs/157049 doc FreeBSD Handbook: Chapter 14 (Security) Inaccuracy p docs/156955 doc bug in share/man/man2/setsockopt.2 o docs/156920 doc isspecial(3) is not helpful o docs/156815 doc chmod(1): manpage should describe that chmod kicks +t o docs/156689 doc stf(4) output-only documentation gives bad configurati f docs/156187 doc [handbook] [patch] Add bsnmpd to handbook o docs/156081 doc troff falls with troff.core with UTF-8 man with incorr o docs/155982 doc [handbook] reaper of the dead: remove reference to flo o docs/155773 doc dialog(1): dialog manpages not updated o docs/155149 doc [patch] don't encourage using xorg.conf outside of PRE o docs/154838 doc update cvs-tags information on releng_* to reflect sup o docs/153958 doc ksu man-page documented, but not installed a docs/153012 doc [patch] iostat(8) requires an argument to -c option o docs/151752 doc pw.conf(5) doesn't define format for file clearly o docs/150991 doc [patch] Install upgtfw using pkg_add as advised in upg o docs/150917 doc [patch] icmp.4, wrong description of icmplim and icmpl o docs/150877 doc ambiguity in newsyslog(8) man page about zfs with comp o docs/150255 doc dtrace description should mention makeoptions DEBUG=-g o docs/149574 doc [patch] update mi_switch(9) man page o docs/148987 doc [patch] {MD[245]|SHA_|SHA1_|SHA256_}{End|File|FileChun o docs/148984 doc [handbook] Mistake in section 16.15.4 of the handbook o docs/148680 doc [sysctl][patch] Document some sys/kern sysctls o docs/148071 doc Failover mode between wired and wireless interfaces o docs/147995 doc elf.5 man page has has missing reference o docs/146958 doc bad link to "XaQti XMAC II datasheet" in sk(4) manual o docs/146521 doc [handbook] Update IPv6 system handbook section to ment o docs/145719 doc [patch] 7.3 relnotes erroneously describes new getpage o docs/145699 doc hexdump(1) mutes all format qualifier output following o docs/145069 doc Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article out dated. o docs/145066 doc Update for new uart dev names for serial port. s docs/144818 doc all mailinglist archives dated 19970101 contain traili o docs/144630 doc [patch] domainname(1) manpage contains old information o docs/144515 doc [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents o docs/144488 doc share/examples/etc/make.conf: contains dangerous examp o docs/143850 doc procfs(5) manpage for status > controlling terminal is o docs/143416 doc [handbook] IPFW handbook page issues o docs/143408 doc man filedesc(9) is missing o docs/142168 doc [patch] ld(1): ldd(1) not mentioned in ld(1) manpage o docs/141032 doc misleading documentation for rtadvd.conf(5) raflags se s docs/140847 doc [request] add documentation on ECMP and new route args o docs/140444 doc [patch] New Traditional Chinese translation of custom- o docs/140375 doc [UPDATE] Updated zh_TW.Big5/articles/nanobsd o docs/139336 doc [request] ZFS documentation suggestion o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138663 doc system(3) man page confuses users about "return value o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/134123 doc The RUNQUEUE(9) man page is out of date o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131626 doc [patch] dump(8) "recommended" cache option confusing o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL p docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit p docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/81611 doc [patch] natd runs with -same_ports by default o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/57298 doc [patch] add using compact flash cards info to handbook s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pa o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] Add documentation on the fixit disk o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 191 problems total. 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Click here to see all of Stephen Nover's picks KEVIN THOMAS KEVIN THURSDAY NITE KICKOFF THREE PACK OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL THIS THURSDAY NAILING OVER 62 PERCENT LIFETIME COLLEGE AND READY TO CASH Click here to see all of Kevin Thomas's picks From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 28 01:51:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2681065674 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tyler@tristatesafeandlock.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B24E8FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6Axm-0008Kr-RY for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:51:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Locksmith To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1346118690846-5738629.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd beginners guide or book. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:51:31 -0000 I recently installed freebsd on my computer and was looking forward to learning it. It seems to be difficult to try to learn at the terminal by using man. Is there a book that shows specific things that freebsd can do how to accomplish it? Is there something I need to set up on my system that will give me documentation and how tos? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/freebsd-beginners-guide-or-book-tp5738629.html Sent from the freebsd-doc mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 28 01:54:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C709106566B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507A98FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AMD620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q7S1sa0K026482; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:54:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:54:34 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Locksmith Message-ID: <20120828085434.6ece8842@AMD620.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1346118690846-5738629.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1346118690846-5738629.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd beginners guide or book. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:54:45 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Locksmith wrote: > I recently installed freebsd on my computer and was looking forward to > learning it. It seems to be difficult to try to learn at the terminal > by using man. Is there a book that shows specific things that freebsd > can do how to accomplish it? Is there something I need to set up on > my system that will give me documentation and how tos? > did you take a look at the handbook? 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Ecco alcuni dei più importanti vantaggi della ottimizzazione: - l'incremento delle visite e della visibilità del vostro sito, - l'acquisizione di una clientela ben definita, realmente interessata ai prodotti oppure ai servizi proposti, - un migliore posizionamento sui vari motori di ricerca, ad esempio google, - l'incremento delle vendite, - l'aumento della riconoscibilità Aziendale, ad un costo bassissimo, - l'aumento del prestigio Aziendale, grazie all'utilizzo di tecnologie avanzate, - la possibilità di competere con le migliori aziende e maggiormente conosciute del paese, - una migliore indicizzazione del sito web sui vari motori di ricerca, - l'assensa di abbonamento Ma soprattutto la consapevolezza che dopo sole due settimane, dal momento in cui avremo dato il via all'ottimizzazione del Vostro sito, Vi ritroverete nella prima pagina dei maggiori motori di ricerca. Sperando vogliate usufruire dei Nostri servizi, Vi invitiamo a visitare il nostro sito internet: http://www.web-ottimizzazione.com Cordiali saluti --- Web-Ottimizzazione SeoWeb ITALY --- http://www.web-ottimizzazione.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 28 08:59:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC72106567B; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9FC8FC23; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1EA14E7FC1; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:59:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QzOq0RswM-mY; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:59:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (D94162B4.catv.pool.telekom.hu [217.65.98.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15B6914E7F26; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:59:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <503C8863.7060209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:59:15 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <50326A70.5020009@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.002845.1234591490988245305.hrs@allbsd.org> <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:59:20 -0000 FYI, I believe that all the so far reported problems have been fixed. Regenerated content is updated. If someone haven't checked it yet, it is still not late. Thanks for all the reports I got. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 28 10:16:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB29106566B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atomictamirat@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF928FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaak11 with SMTP id k11so1593552eaa.13 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:16:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:subject:message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rEoASEZygWWqDB6TMfY1Wi9eUEwh6b+QVjl7HBgSDmY=; b=KJakTeLHZH9+NSZ71SUjlurQGh3RQvlgociYh23ZeqrZv+4UHHLT5bQX8zUbJclsFa HuCpfxQ8wkh/n4/Eok8nK46WNyivSElpQm+ymQWitqco1p3YNBBMmmGreb2ZEvb/FW0I DpCbOlcZE/0exshtWWJqiKgzj/VXMyYpSO1hmSwrJJqyrGqk418jVezehC1w1QvwhKTK fxsfQbpblaG4vkVt3Rhsph3PKzlxube974HEAYM0YZ/UJCBFx3DmUEo24222Q5FzrTzc a7tDHzV4IWQDcZErAqbirPoRT7jYhvzEqYZWJgxvom6j5hrLMofl2bwc9Umhw/DV1vx4 1tpA== Received: by 10.14.211.133 with SMTP id w5mr1518970eeo.46.1346148966432; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.210.123.184] ([213.55.73.125]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u47sm59769247eeo.9.2012.08.28.03.16.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:15:19 +0300 Message-ID: <8w76chrww7v7r365vvk9gijh.1346148919512@email.android.com> From: Tamirat Bekele Jimma To: Locksmith , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd beginners guide or book. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:16:08 -0000 Q2hlY2sgb3V0IHRoaXMgZG9jdW1lbnRhdGlvbiAKd3d3LmZyZWVic2Qub3JnL2RvYy9lbl9VUy5J U084ODU5LTEvYm9va3MvaGFuZGJvb2svCgpJIGhvcGUgaXQgaGVscHMhClRhbWlyYXQgQmVrZWxl IEppbW1hCgpMb2Nrc21pdGggPFR5bGVyQHRyaXN0YXRlc2FmZWFuZGxvY2suY29tPiB3cm90ZToK Cj5JIHJlY2VudGx5IGluc3RhbGxlZCBmcmVlYnNkIG9uIG15IGNvbXB1dGVyIGFuZCB3YXMgbG9v a2luZyBmb3J3YXJkIHRvCj5sZWFybmluZyBpdC4gSXQgc2VlbXMgdG8gYmUgZGlmZmljdWx0IHRv IHRyeSB0byBsZWFybiBhdCB0aGUgdGVybWluYWwgYnkKPnVzaW5nIG1hbi4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYSBi b29rIHRoYXQgc2hvd3Mgc3BlY2lmaWMgdGhpbmdzIHRoYXQgZnJlZWJzZCBjYW4gZG8KPmhvdyB0 byBhY2NvbXBsaXNoIGl0PyBJcyB0aGVyZSBzb21ldGhpbmcgSSBuZWVkIHRvIHNldCB1cCBvbiBt eSBzeXN0ZW0gdGhhdAo+d2lsbCBnaXZlIG1lIGRvY3VtZW50YXRpb24gYW5kIGhvdyB0b3M/Cj4K Pgo+Cj4tLQo+VmlldyB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4gY29udGV4dDogaHR0cDovL2ZyZWVic2QuMTA0 NTcyNC5uNS5uYWJibGUuY29tL2ZyZWVic2QtYmVnaW5uZXJzLWd1aWRlLW9yLWJvb2stdHA1NzM4 NjI5Lmh0bWwKPlNlbnQgZnJvbSB0aGUgZnJlZWJzZC1kb2MgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IGFyY2hpdmUg YXQgTmFiYmxlLmNvbS4KPl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fCj5mcmVlYnNkLWRvY0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKPmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0 cy5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2ZyZWVic2QtZG9jCj5UbyB1bnN1YnNjcmli ZSwgc2VuZCBhbnkgbWFpbCB0byAiZnJlZWJzZC1kb2MtdW5zdWJzY3JpYmVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmci Cg== From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 28 12:47:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0A31065670; 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Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.13.97 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <503C8863.7060209@FreeBSD.org> References: <50326A70.5020009@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.002845.1234591490988245305.hrs@allbsd.org> <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <503C8863.7060209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:43:56 +0400 Message-ID: From: Sergey Kandaurov To: Gabor Kovesdan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: doceng@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:43:57 -0000 On 28 August 2012 12:59, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > FYI, I believe that all the so far reported problems have been fixed. > Regenerated content is updated. If someone haven't checked it yet, it is > still not late. 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Thanks and Regards, Ridley From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 13:16:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D850106566B; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837F08FC12; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (p2214-ipbf2707funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [123.225.119.214]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7TDG6jx067808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:16:16 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7TDG4DR079344; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:16:06 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:10:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> To: gabor@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.5 on Emacs 23.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_29_22_10_19_2012_052)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:16:17 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.1 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, ONLY1HOPDIRECT, SAMEHELOBY2HOP, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:16:25 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_29_22_10_19_2012_052)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gabor Kovesdan wrote in <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org>: ga> Em 25-08-2012 19:58, Hiroki Sato escreveu: ga> > Ah, what I wanted to point out is that not only in the headers the ga> > ids are converted to lower case in the new framework. I also ga> > think we can ignore the impact for the headers. ga> > ga> > As you know, the Jade program uses the upper case because it ga> > supports SGML general name normalization for the ids and NAMECASE ga> > GENERAL is YES in SGML declaration for HTML. The xsltproc program ga> > does not always do so because NAMECASE GENERAL is always NO in ga> > XML. ga> ga> Ok, now I see you are referring to docs not www. I was talking about ga> www because I only did manual conversion there. A side effect of ga> changing the SGML declaration used by Jade to enforce XML syntax is ga> that NAMECASE GENERAL is NO as you said. For now, I don't know what to ga> do with that. If we start using XSLT, we can customize the DocBook XSL ga> stlyesheets to do such a normalization. I think it shouldn't be ga> difficult but I'll have to see how the corresponding parts are written ga> in DocBook XSL. Do you have any suggestions how to handle this for the ga> interim period? If we continue to use the upper-case ids, converting all of id attr and xref's linkend attr to upper-case in the source file, not in the style sheet, is needed. Case normalization of ids by XSLT is wrong because relationship between xref's linkend and id must be correct in the XML source files. I am still wondering if we should stick to the upper-case ids, but considering consistency and compatibility, using upper-case is the safest. Our possible options in my mind are: 1. Convert ids to upper-case and use them. No compatibility problem. 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of www.FreeBSD.org may be broken. 3. Convert the existing ids to upper-case but use lower case for newly-added ones. It works but not consistent. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_29_22_10_19_2012_052)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlA+FLsACgkQTyzT2CeTzy19rgCfe/746CtpWdWY2smICcTzPz1b yhIAoIA5CJ5o1u/EjHlLXSiIiw7WqkKA =kP+r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_29_22_10_19_2012_052)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 14:09:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC63106564A; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from issyl0@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739038FC1B; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7TE9FhX080458; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:09:15 GMT (envelope-from issyl0@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from issyl0@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7TE9Frm080454; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:09:15 GMT (envelope-from issyl0) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:09:15 GMT Message-Id: <201208291409.q7TE9Frm080454@freefall.freebsd.org> To: issyl0@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, issyl0@FreeBSD.org From: issyl0@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/164826: handbook ports page does not suggest config-recursive which should be a standard suggestion as it saves huge time X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:09:15 -0000 Synopsis: handbook ports page does not suggest config-recursive which should be a standard suggestion as it saves huge time Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->issyl0 Responsible-Changed-By: issyl0 Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 29 14:09:15 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164826 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 14:52:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B9B106566C; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BC58FC08; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7TEq6PN087585; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:52:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q7TEq6Cc087582; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:52:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:52:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> Message-ID: References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: doceng@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, gabor@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:52:10 -0000 On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Gabor Kovesdan wrote > in <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org>: > > ga> Em 25-08-2012 19:58, Hiroki Sato escreveu: > ga> > Ah, what I wanted to point out is that not only in the headers the > ga> > ids are converted to lower case in the new framework. I also > ga> > think we can ignore the impact for the headers. > ga> > > ga> > As you know, the Jade program uses the upper case because it > ga> > supports SGML general name normalization for the ids and NAMECASE > ga> > GENERAL is YES in SGML declaration for HTML. The xsltproc program > ga> > does not always do so because NAMECASE GENERAL is always NO in > ga> > XML. > ga> > ga> Ok, now I see you are referring to docs not www. I was talking about > ga> www because I only did manual conversion there. A side effect of > ga> changing the SGML declaration used by Jade to enforce XML syntax is > ga> that NAMECASE GENERAL is NO as you said. For now, I don't know what to > ga> do with that. If we start using XSLT, we can customize the DocBook XSL > ga> stlyesheets to do such a normalization. I think it shouldn't be > ga> difficult but I'll have to see how the corresponding parts are written > ga> in DocBook XSL. Do you have any suggestions how to handle this for the > ga> interim period? > > If we continue to use the upper-case ids, converting all of id attr > and xref's linkend attr to upper-case in the source file, not in the > style sheet, is needed. Case normalization of ids by XSLT is wrong > because relationship between xref's linkend and id must be correct in > the XML source files. > > I am still wondering if we should stick to the upper-case ids, but > considering consistency and compatibility, using upper-case is the > safest. Our possible options in my mind are: > > 1. Convert ids to upper-case and use them. No compatibility problem. > > 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of www.FreeBSD.org > may be broken. Is it practical to generate small static "This link has changed" pages for legacy uppercase links? Generating a list of "RedirectMatch permanent" lines for manual addition to the webserver config seems more elegant. After the switch was made to all lowercase, the list of obsolete uppercase links would not grow. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 15:35:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F160106566B; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from issyl0@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203E8FC16; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7TFZD1O091647; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:35:13 GMT (envelope-from issyl0@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from issyl0@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7TFZD2g091643; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:35:13 GMT (envelope-from issyl0) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:35:13 GMT Message-Id: <201208291535.q7TFZD2g091643@freefall.freebsd.org> To: issyl0@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, issyl0@FreeBSD.org From: issyl0@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/146958: bad link to "XaQti XMAC II datasheet" in sk(4) manual page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:35:13 -0000 Synopsis: bad link to "XaQti XMAC II datasheet" in sk(4) manual page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->issyl0 Responsible-Changed-By: issyl0 Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 29 15:35:12 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=146958 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 17:45:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D956106564A for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@qxnitro.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65598FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ialo14 with SMTP id o14so2044995ial.13 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxnitro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Qh5thKXqdZAwIAwNkx7CmUalaUgdfHFTZlChCVGmM8g=; b=OL9jkDBaF9cpt4WEVxg/0XKy5TB+WrjwNSPsXItTc5GqfK1f1QqwPlSzniz3d2o7+i AP3KYELJMvXPvyOtGRYFneLUZGrVqgNfeJAJ03gm7kdnuD2Dw6grf+5bJtJmo9OZ+wLJ MBzaX7biyuBEegHYQvA7BxFGN64Vze6q8eQLM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Qh5thKXqdZAwIAwNkx7CmUalaUgdfHFTZlChCVGmM8g=; b=lK0tGiINPSYnt9v7EmwNM5WQlU10VdaCLTHOqvW68o6hGcuJIOMkzwgAurmn7LOhEL uCvAEphCmtDatnJvlqEa+5/51KA9dPAFjfT6PdY08yO9PndWL4ZNikUrdfIAUhKoLAmy 3vAFgXitTEBjHndqxFJpTSEA/F61kC/wsNC/grfa2SLfyP5utCz4aFV3fYD9RBcy8SIx k+H9+LRW56Fze1JNh/Z/QZEUUX3f9ycWxb4KOq70Yb7cHLzuh58LnX7tGhIPco35pyIv 0MxYQs7Z04I8vTA3p9Pf7uWXohso0G2RtDz+rW9kr5e3orc+AffkHxVm2qbrpPgdATlm F+IQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.194.130 with SMTP id hw2mr2827318igc.64.1346262332024; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.102.104 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:45:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [131.111.143.140] In-Reply-To: References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:45:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlfr0t6oRbB+I6HJqPJ4N4xUShsAeaP7kq9Ls58YDJU+2wm777+4E6+LeDSLZOyr93t4dOY Cc: doceng@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, gabor@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:45:39 -0000 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Hiroki Sato wrote: > >> Gabor Kovesdan wrote >> in <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org>: >> >> ga> Em 25-08-2012 19:58, Hiroki Sato escreveu: >> ga> > Ah, what I wanted to point out is that not only in the headers the >> ga> > ids are converted to lower case in the new framework. I also >> ga> > think we can ignore the impact for the headers. >> ga> > >> ga> > As you know, the Jade program uses the upper case because it >> ga> > supports SGML general name normalization for the ids and NAMECASE >> ga> > GENERAL is YES in SGML declaration for HTML. The xsltproc program >> ga> > does not always do so because NAMECASE GENERAL is always NO in >> ga> > XML. >> ga> >> ga> Ok, now I see you are referring to docs not www. I was talking about >> ga> www because I only did manual conversion there. A side effect of >> ga> changing the SGML declaration used by Jade to enforce XML syntax is >> ga> that NAMECASE GENERAL is NO as you said. For now, I don't know what to >> ga> do with that. If we start using XSLT, we can customize the DocBook XSL >> ga> stlyesheets to do such a normalization. I think it shouldn't be >> ga> difficult but I'll have to see how the corresponding parts are written >> ga> in DocBook XSL. Do you have any suggestions how to handle this for the >> ga> interim period? >> >> If we continue to use the upper-case ids, converting all of id attr >> and xref's linkend attr to upper-case in the source file, not in the >> style sheet, is needed. Case normalization of ids by XSLT is wrong >> because relationship between xref's linkend and id must be correct in >> the XML source files. >> >> I am still wondering if we should stick to the upper-case ids, but >> considering consistency and compatibility, using upper-case is the >> safest. Our possible options in my mind are: >> >> 1. Convert ids to upper-case and use them. No compatibility problem. What are the arguments against this? It's at least the simplest one... >> 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of www.FreeBSD.org >> may be broken. > > Is it practical to generate small static "This link has changed" pages for > legacy uppercase links? That does sound a bit painful... many small files around for a long time. The redirect is better, though it won't work for mirrors.... > Generating a list of "RedirectMatch permanent" lines for manual addition to > the webserver config seems more elegant. After the switch was made to all > lowercase, the list of obsolete uppercase links would not grow. How many are we talking about? I would prefer not having many redirects which have to keep around forever. -- Simon L. B. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 20:41:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97210106564A; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454938FC14; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A7014E7FC6; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:41:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9fw99Sk3sjsC; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (D94162B4.catv.pool.telekom.hu [217.65.98.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A79D414E7FBF; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:41:20 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroki Sato References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:41:28 -0000 Em 29-08-2012 15:10, Hiroki Sato escreveu: > 1. Convert ids to upper-case and use them. No compatibility > problem. > > 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of > www.FreeBSD.org may be broken. > > 3. Convert the existing ids to upper-case but use lower case for > newly-added ones. It works but not consistent. 4. Use some kind of redirection at the HTTP level. I'd prefer (2) or (4). I think we already carry a lot of legacy stuff and people frequently come up with the idea of using some kind of markdown or wiki system for documentation and try to recruit more people to support this idea because the current situation is much more complicated than it could. I think going to XML and dropping character entities highly helps people writing docs and simplifying things. So I'd prefer avoiding one more not really sensible policy and confusion factor. Using upper-case names affects readability and suggests that it is a policy or a practice to follow even if we go for (3). Besides, please take into account that we never care of broken links when we remove a chapter or section and that links may still bring you to the proper page just not to the proper part. The user may still find the part she is looking for. This whole thing could be mitigated with some HTTP redirection. We could rewrite http://freebsd.org/doc/\([^#]*\)#\(.*\) to http://freebsd.org/doc/\1#\2 where \2 is converted to lower-case. I'm not sure what www.freebsd.org runs and whether such rewriting is supported but theoretically it should be possible. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 23:46:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F876106566B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-reply@dropboxmail.com) Received: from sjc-mailman5.dropboxmail.com (sjc-mailman5.sjc.dropbox.com [199.47.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC468FC4B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sjc-batch3.sjc.dropbox.com (sjc-batch3.sjc.dropbox.com [199.47.218.166]) by sjc-mailman5.dropboxmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7A03416BA for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:46:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dropboxmail.com; s=m1; t=1346283973; bh=rXfoeZWCqEQA1B3HvG7/Tbjt2a1ytav8K7Tq8LYIMIo=; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:From:To:Subject:Date:Reply-To: Message-Id; b=PnZVaYs9KaMdeGo2EXdXSDzhRQOSm1tLNTSFQn/0QFZUbJsEeaQjAIhH+z4tN8Mng AVm3s7r6QpzFDWS1px4H8IhyaUtTJeYAhF3dAVwzRseHI2DJnfjt+2e3Nx1JZHyON2 0P2pWetqHfN5oTMfToZ/Ns1A4L8SegYsq/htzUQg= Received: from sjc-batch3.sjc.dropbox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sjc-batch3.sjc.dropbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C27B409F1 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:46:13 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dropbox To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:46:13 +0000 Message-Id: <20120829234613.C7C27B409F1@sjc-batch3.sjc.dropbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: ADesign AD invited you to check out Dropbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: andreartedesign@gmail.com List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:46:15 -0000 ADesign AD wants you to try Dropbox! 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Accept invitation here: http://www.dropbox.com/el/?r=/referrals/NjI1MjU3MDU3OTc%3Fsrc%3Dreferrals_email9%26eh%3Dd4f38b9&b=clk:None:43329824315933961:789:462&z=AACHM_EJTh3Qv7E1b2RifXA1lCw8ym3340o-nlEjCP47zA - The Dropbox Team ____________________________________________________ To stop receiving invites from Dropbox, please go to http://www.dropbox.com/bl/9d4d45667218/doc%40freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 07:45:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817FC10656B4; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42768FC14; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-174-50-4-38.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [174.50.4.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9A7E37B547; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 02:45:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3X6wjG6mkmzLFf; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 02:45:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 02:45:22 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Gabor Kovesdan Message-ID: <20120830074522.GA40420@over-yonder.net> References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-fullermd.4 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:45:32 -0000 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:41:20PM +0200 I heard the voice of Gabor Kovesdan, and lo! it spake thus: > > This whole thing could be mitigated with some HTTP redirection. We > could rewrite http://freebsd.org/doc/\([^#]*\)#\(.*\) to > http://freebsd.org/doc/\1#\2 where \2 is converted to lower-case. Er, the fragment isn't sent over HTTP. The server never sees the "#whatever". -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 08:03:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6484E106564A; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D618FC18; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7U83iAP029856; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:03:44 GMT (envelope-from zeising@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from zeising@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7U83ipg029852; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:03:44 GMT (envelope-from zeising) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:03:44 GMT Message-Id: <201208300803.q7U83ipg029852@freefall.freebsd.org> To: zeising@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, zeising@FreeBSD.org From: zeising@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/171098: handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:03:44 -0000 Synopsis: handbook section 19.6.3 burncd needs changed Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->zeising Responsible-Changed-By: zeising Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 08:03:43 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171098 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 08:36:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42013106564A; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37F08FC16; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6261314E8041; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:36:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wSKeOVqKHGtG; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:36:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (D94162B4.catv.pool.telekom.hu [217.65.98.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C53C114E7FBD; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:36:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <503F25F8.5020100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:36:08 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> <20120830074522.GA40420@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20120830074522.GA40420@over-yonder.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:36:12 -0000 Em 30-08-2012 09:45, Matthew D. Fuller escreveu: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:41:20PM +0200 I heard the voice of > Gabor Kovesdan, and lo! it spake thus: >> > >> > This whole thing could be mitigated with some HTTP redirection. We >> > could rewrite http://freebsd.org/doc/\([^#]*\)#\(.*\) to >> > http://freebsd.org/doc/\1#\2 where \2 is converted to lower-case. > Er, the fragment isn't sent over HTTP. The server never sees the > "#whatever". Ooops, I didn't think of that... Then we may use a simple JavaScript to deal with this. Yes, I know it can be turned off but we also use it on freebsd.org. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 13:50:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8662106566B for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E18FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7UDo1pb080227 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:50:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7UDo1f5080226; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:50:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:50:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201208301350.q7UDo1f5080226@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Diane Bruce Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF993106567C for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from diana.db.net (unknown [IPv6:2620:64:0:1:223:7dff:fea2:c8f2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E028FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from night.db.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by diana.db.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5232AA67E for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:44:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by night.db.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E2731CEA5; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:44:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20120830134413.7E2731CEA5@night.db.net> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:44:13 -0500 (EST) From: Diane Bruce To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/171186: missing Cambridge devsummit photos in web X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Diane Bruce List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:50:04 -0000 >Number: 171186 >Category: docs >Synopsis: missing Cambridge devsummit photos in web >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 30 13:50:01 UTC 2012 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Diane Bruce >Release: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE amd64 >Organization: Me and my imaginary friends >Environment: System: FreeBSD night.db.net 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #11: Sat Jun 30 08:32:31 EST 2012 root@night.db.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/multimedia/multimedia-input.xml =================================================================== --- head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/multimedia/multimedia-input.xml (revision 39469) +++ head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/multimedia/multimedia-input.xml (working copy) @@ -11570,6 +11570,15 @@ + + Cambridge FreeBSD DevSummit2012 - Photos - Ollivier Robert + http://gallery.keltia.net/v/voyages/conferences/devsummit-cam-2012/ + + Photos of the 2012 FreeBSD DevSummit at the Cambridge University by Ollivier Robert + + devsummit2012,devsummit,photos,ollivier robert + + Welcome - Cambridge University FreeBSD DevSummit - Robert Watson http://wiki.freebsd.org/200808DevSummit >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 14:00:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46501065676; 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Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07228FC15; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7UEFSM6008607; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:15:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q7UEFRXa008604; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:15:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:15:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gabor Kovesdan In-Reply-To: <503F25F8.5020100@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> <20120830074522.GA40420@over-yonder.net> <503F25F8.5020100@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: doceng@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, "Matthew D. Fuller" , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:15:29 -0000 On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 30-08-2012 09:45, Matthew D. Fuller escreveu: >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:41:20PM +0200 I heard the voice of >> Gabor Kovesdan, and lo! it spake thus: >>>> >>>> This whole thing could be mitigated with some HTTP redirection. We >>>> could rewrite http://freebsd.org/doc/\([^#]*\)#\(.*\) to >>>> http://freebsd.org/doc/\1#\2 where \2 is converted to lower-case. >> Er, the fragment isn't sent over HTTP. The server never sees the >> "#whatever". > > Ooops, I didn't think of that... Then we may use a simple JavaScript to > deal with this. Yes, I know it can be turned off but we also use it on > freebsd.org. Even if the anchor is wrong, the browser should still display the document. Are there things other than anchors that will be affected? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 15:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595FE106566B; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB018FC1B; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (p3048-ipbf1204funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [123.218.144.48]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7UFqvsi096739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:53:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7UFqu3S098112; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:52:56 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:52:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20120831.005244.2295575122657925960.hrs@allbsd.org> To: gabor@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> References: <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.5 on Emacs 23.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Aug_31_00_52_44_2012_228)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:53:07 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.8 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, ONLY1HOPDIRECT, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, SAMEHELOBY2HOP, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:53:14 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Aug_31_00_52_44_2012_228)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gabor Kovesdan wrote in <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org>: ga> Em 29-08-2012 15:10, Hiroki Sato escreveu: ga> > 1. Convert ids to upper-case and use them. No compatibility ga> > problem. ga> > ga> > 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of ga> > www.FreeBSD.org may be broken. ga> > ga> > 3. Convert the existing ids to upper-case but use lower case for ga> > newly-added ones. It works but not consistent. ga> ga> 4. Use some kind of redirection at the HTTP level. Let's forget about HTTP level solution. On the mirror servers it does not work. ga> I'd prefer (2) or (4). I think we already carry a lot of legacy stuff ga> and people frequently come up with the idea of using some kind of ga> markdown or wiki system for documentation and try to recruit more ga> people to support this idea because the current situation is much more ga> complicated than it could. I think going to XML and dropping character ga> entities highly helps people writing docs and simplifying things. So ga> I'd prefer avoiding one more not really sensible policy and confusion ga> factor. Using upper-case names affects readability and suggests that ga> it is a policy or a practice to follow even if we go for (3). Besides, ga> please take into account that we never care of broken links when we ga> remove a chapter or section and that links may still bring you to the ga> proper page just not to the proper part. The user may still find the ga> part she is looking for. One compromise solution would be adding an additional anchor with upper-case ids just after the normal (lower-case) one by XSLT only for HTML output. It is relatively easy and should not be harmful. How about this? Hmm, I agree that upper-case ids are annoying but cannot agree that we never took care of anchors and/or we can ignore the negative impact from changing them. We should take care of them as far as we can. Just converting them to lower-case is different from the case of removal of a section because it is not non-avoidable. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Aug_31_00_52_44_2012_228)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlA/jEwACgkQTyzT2CeTzy1XHACcCidtyMHazJ6LnmTwZgFZ4fiN NaYAniOOBJsulR4QPFC3cEX35WnHGDfx =Wy1g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Aug_31_00_52_44_2012_228)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 16:39:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1552B106566C; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABD48FC12; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A3114E804D; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 50SwEKF_Noqi; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (D94162B4.catv.pool.telekom.hu [217.65.98.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B9C714E7F08; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <503F9734.7010209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:16 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroki Sato References: <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> <20120831.005244.2295575122657925960.hrs@allbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20120831.005244.2295575122657925960.hrs@allbsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:39:16 -0000 Em 30-08-2012 17:52, Hiroki Sato escreveu: > Gabor Kovesdan wrote in > <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org>: > > ga> Em 29-08-2012 15:10, Hiroki Sato escreveu: ga> > 1. Convert ids > to upper-case and use them. No compatibility ga> > problem. ga> > > ga> > 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of ga> > > www.FreeBSD.org may be broken. ga> > ga> > 3. Convert the existing > ids to upper-case but use lower case for ga> > newly-added ones. > It works but not consistent. ga> ga> 4. Use some kind of > redirection at the HTTP level. > > Let's forget about HTTP level solution. On the mirror servers it > does not work. I think it is much less probable that someone links to a mirror that's why I ignored this factor. > One compromise solution would be adding an additional anchor with > upper-case ids just after the normal (lower-case) one by XSLT only > for HTML output. It is relatively easy and should not be harmful. > How about this? I've also thought of this and this also looks as a good compromise. We should do it for chapter and sectX, right? Or is there something else? Before, we agreed that the XML migration should be done in various steps but then it means there will be a short interim period until we get it right with XSLT. Do you think it is acceptable? Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 16:39:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C78C1065678; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B138FC1D; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A34714E804F; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JC5n_OHLoT6t; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (D94162B4.catv.pool.telekom.hu [217.65.98.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E68714E804D; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <503F9753.2010603@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:39:47 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <50390426.40604@FreeBSD.org> <20120826.025845.2271349946315727916.hrs@allbsd.org> <50392481.1070708@FreeBSD.org> <20120829.221019.266908030257017857.hrs@allbsd.org> <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org> <20120830074522.GA40420@over-yonder.net> <503F25F8.5020100@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doceng@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, "Matthew D. Fuller" , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:39:46 -0000 Em 30-08-2012 16:15, Warren Block escreveu: > Even if the anchor is wrong, the browser should still display the > document. Are there things other than anchors that will be affected? Imho, only anchors are affected. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 31 10:00:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA1D1065673 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4028FC26 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7VA0Mpc069949 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:00:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7VA0MPY069943; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:00:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:00:22 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201208311000.q7VA0MPY069943@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, deeptech71 Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9E5106566B for ; 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protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep__1_01_03_33_2012_305)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Sat, 01 Sep 2012 01:03:52 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.8 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, ONLY1HOPDIRECT, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, SAMEHELOBY2HOP, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR REVIEW] doc and www converted to XML X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:04:00 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep__1_01_03_33_2012_305)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gabor Kovesdan wrote in <503F9734.7010209@FreeBSD.org>: ga> Em 30-08-2012 17:52, Hiroki Sato escreveu: ga> > Gabor Kovesdan wrote in ga> > <503E7E70.2050504@FreeBSD.org>: ga> > ga> > ga> Em 29-08-2012 15:10, Hiroki Sato escreveu: ga> > 1. Convert ids ga> > to upper-case and use them. No compatibility ga> > problem. ga> > ga> > ga> > 2. Use lower-case ids. Links from pages outside of ga> > ga> > www.FreeBSD.org may be broken. ga> > ga> > 3. Convert the existing ga> > ids to upper-case but use lower case for ga> > newly-added ones. ga> > It works but not consistent. ga> ga> 4. Use some kind of ga> > redirection at the HTTP level. ga> > ga> > Let's forget about HTTP level solution. On the mirror servers it ga> > does not work. ga> ga> I think it is much less probable that someone links to a mirror that's ga> why I ignored this factor. Localized version of handbook in www..freebsd.org is sometimes referred. In the case of Japanese version, some hardware vendors have links to FreeBSD handbook in their web page, for example. The number is quite small, though. ga> > One compromise solution would be adding an additional anchor with ga> > upper-case ids just after the normal (lower-case) one by XSLT only ga> > for HTML output. It is relatively easy and should not be harmful. ga> > How about this? ga> ga> I've also thought of this and this also looks as a good compromise. We ga> should do it for chapter and sectX, right? Or is there something else? ga> Before, we agreed that the XML migration should be done in various ga> steps but then it means there will be a short interim period until we ga> get it right with XSLT. Do you think it is acceptable? I think sectN and chapter are enough and it is acceptable that there is a short time before implementing the workaround. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep__1_01_03_33_2012_305)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlBA4FUACgkQTyzT2CeTzy0eGgCg1yUHamcbVoJY4Bc/nTqh2Vjf mxQAn3Ice8x0O1RMi9Tz/2sKjTzMKKf2 =EPgM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep__1_01_03_33_2012_305)----