From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 9 06:54:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B1B1065670 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 06:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thciobanu@nth.ro) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25788FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 06:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so698262wib.13 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:54:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nth.ro; s=ga; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bKoNNUocbex6Kaop3vQqDevtBde51ZCH52FFdlrzq4s=; b=AB85x+QIT6VUHmE+oA5VOh27+Ds195Ypnrtq+zS0dp5DySjS70THAvQu1Fh/9kxeiK xH2L10azO5WwK2zxRjwQxzbswOO3aNR3KvmfdZY/9CCtvnbFq9ndLfkbyli3VsUglVuM hI1nD85qrfcl8EDBtYVgljpQ2wJl5AvEnq9Ug= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=bKoNNUocbex6Kaop3vQqDevtBde51ZCH52FFdlrzq4s=; b=dYZQMNzYzOYh26ng5Njy3CM43IyW2K6Yrw1lgHkg3Pl4/Vjis7UbBqeX50MonQuLoj sRRkj9fqVIcv5ys9iZIQRWlpejXskxzfNNBYPvB7tY42yH7t0EvXohhR6xoDIWycCwYL 9Kno0jDdzlrOx10zarwa0qRzU7rMYFTwkrBTlihHbz2IFtKyi0WoraZOy0HaXm2eEn3H hOuKvOzS3Ys7qTcPqhYvkgIPBQ50bIQD9N55Q7flpj2a40kNci7CAg79Pd4e32VGrEi3 I74RDMQ9r5wzl8h7VbgNMO9/8PAwM+WHBzehjmjTIUUeQs8ju2TgppFWyqNWhy+uhHq0 8PiQ== Received: by 10.216.197.162 with SMTP id t34mr6316611wen.5.1347173676552; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown ([188.26.92.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4sm9477055wix.9.2012.09.08.23.54.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:54:12 +0300 From: Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.8; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnxZ90c9HG8EQf40xVf66EkJ2abQS5nfPdYgGDsKpK+PFyJMk3m+3UeDLNOx8jHR3gmG4O8 Cc: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Re: Dell Perc H200A X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:54:38 -0000 On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:34:14 -0500 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I tried to install FreeBSD 9.0 Release on a Dell R410 with Perc H200A > today. When I tried ran the new installer it failed. So I switched > to sysinstall, but it couldn't recognize the disk. > > I googled and found out that there's been a problem with no driver > for that controller. If I understand it correctly, the mps driver > works, but you had to use something called JBOD mode. I have no idea > what that is or how to set it up. I'm not real knowledgeable about > RAID and controllers and the like. > > All I want to do is install FreeBSD on this box. Is there a version > of FreeBSD that will work with the Perc H200A? If so, how do I get > it? I don't know if this is still the case, but there was a time when you could use LSI2008 (the chipset) cards only with IT firmware (JBOD mode) in FreeBSD. To flash the H200A with the IT firmware, you had to go through some hoops, as switching modes for this kind of cards is not done in one step: http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle16266.aspx And as this is a rebranded 9211-8i controller, you also had to use an older version first. I remember using firmware directly from LSI to be able to get from IR to IT (p7 with the WinXP sasflash.exe, as the other ones all reported errors), then upgraded to the lastest version the usual way. (I don't know if it will work with the PowerEdge 6Gbps SAS HBA firmware - Dell's version of this card in IT mode). I was then able to use my discs with software raid, with massive performance improvements, as this card does not have any on-board cache and the Dell IR firmware forces disc write-cache off. You are of course doing all of this at your own risc, your warranty will be void etc. > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very > intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell -- Theo From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 03:21:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942AF1065673 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5746C8FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:21:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=+L5dYfeubEW4PLvjDgtIXQ==:17 a=WAZfUmVf-EkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=GE-5ag8CP4IA:10 a=XJ73DR3wAAAA:8 a=UdvEN9gbqWsBAELrqE0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4zazQFM8BUcA:10 a=+L5dYfeubEW4PLvjDgtIXQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.184.157.127 Received: from [76.184.157.127] ([76.184.157.127:52657] helo=[10.0.0.133]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 05/6D-15382-CAC5D405; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:21:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:21:16 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Hardware Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> References: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Dell Perc H200A X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:21:18 -0000 --On September 9, 2012 9:54:12 AM +0300 Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:34:14 -0500 > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I tried to install FreeBSD 9.0 Release on a Dell R410 with Perc H200A >> today. When I tried ran the new installer it failed. So I switched >> to sysinstall, but it couldn't recognize the disk. >> >> I googled and found out that there's been a problem with no driver >> for that controller. If I understand it correctly, the mps driver >> works, but you had to use something called JBOD mode. I have no idea >> what that is or how to set it up. I'm not real knowledgeable about >> RAID and controllers and the like. >> >> All I want to do is install FreeBSD on this box. Is there a version >> of FreeBSD that will work with the Perc H200A? If so, how do I get >> it? > > I don't know if this is still the case, but there was a time when you > could use LSI2008 (the chipset) cards only with IT firmware (JBOD > mode) in FreeBSD. > > To flash the H200A with the IT firmware, you had to go through some > hoops, as switching modes for this kind of cards is not done in one > step: > http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle16266.aspx > Can anyone confirm that this is still the case? Does the mps driver support this controller? Is it included in 8.3 RELEASE? Or am I going to have to jump through hoops to get FreeBSD installed on this box? Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 10:04:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F44106564A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0078FC12 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TB0rB-0007Te-1m for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:04:41 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:04:41 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:04:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:04:28 +0200 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9606B38C2A48FA327E40FD11" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120812 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD handle redundant SAS controllers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:04:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9606B38C2A48FA327E40FD11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/09/2012 16:53, Andy Young wrote: > I'm having trouble finding information about this on the web. I have a = SAS > backplane with redundant expanders designed so you can use redundant SA= S > controllers. Seems obvious to me that the drivers need to support two c= ards > pointing to the same drives. Does this work in FreeBSD? Does it matter > which HBAs I buy? The closest thing to what you want is gmultipath: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?gmultipath --------------enig9606B38C2A48FA327E40FD11 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBNuywACgkQ/QjVBj3/HSxDnACffoVB044jNcENMQLjOCQZxOuA qb4An3TYobL5eaWGSX8k7+W4VaCwNJ62 =7bK7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9606B38C2A48FA327E40FD11-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 10:52:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFDC1065670 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670278FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8AAqmeq027141 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:52:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <504DC680.30708@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:52:48 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dell Perc H200A X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:52:51 -0000 On 10/09/2012 04:21, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On September 9, 2012 9:54:12 AM +0300 Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu > wrote: > >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:34:14 -0500 >> Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >>> I tried to install FreeBSD 9.0 Release on a Dell R410 with Perc H200A >>> today. When I tried ran the new installer it failed. So I switched >>> to sysinstall, but it couldn't recognize the disk. >>> >>> I googled and found out that there's been a problem with no driver >>> for that controller. If I understand it correctly, the mps driver >>> works, but you had to use something called JBOD mode. I have no idea >>> what that is or how to set it up. I'm not real knowledgeable about >>> RAID and controllers and the like. >>> >>> All I want to do is install FreeBSD on this box. Is there a version >>> of FreeBSD that will work with the Perc H200A? If so, how do I get >>> it? >> >> I don't know if this is still the case, but there was a time when you >> could use LSI2008 (the chipset) cards only with IT firmware (JBOD >> mode) in FreeBSD. >> >> To flash the H200A with the IT firmware, you had to go through some >> hoops, as switching modes for this kind of cards is not done in one >> step: >> http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle16266.aspx >> > > Can anyone confirm that this is still the case? Does the mps driver > support this controller? Is it included in 8.3 RELEASE? Or am I > going to have to jump through hoops to get FreeBSD installed on this box? If you are happy to use the integrated RAID (IR) mode and let the driver/card handle RAID then http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=231679 brought in support for this and http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=237876 a new version of the driver. A 9.1-RC1 install iso should pick it up fine. No idea if you want to use software RAID over JBOD (Just a bunch of disks) mode though. Vince > > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very > intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 11:09:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072E0106568D for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA5E8FC0A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8AB9eab066084 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:09:40 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q8AB9cOX065721 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:09:38 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:09:38 GMT Message-Id: <201209101109.q8AB9cOX065721@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:09:41 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/156241 hardware [mfi] 'zfs send' does not prevents disks to suspend if 1 problem total. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 14:41:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1DC106566B for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=5933e07fc=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E548FC0C for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:41:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIEAFr7TVCBbgogTmdsb2JhbABFq1eQBAEBIoJrAQEEATgCRAsLDjhDFAYBEogKBgu7C4sThVZgA4hTjh6SDQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,398,1344229200"; d="scan'208";a="104518912" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO [129.110.200.11]) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 10 Sep 2012 09:39:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:39:49 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Vincent Hoffman , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <504DC680.30708@unsane.co.uk> References: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> <504DC680.30708@unsane.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=1130 Cc: Subject: Re: Dell Perc H200A X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:41:07 -0000 --On September 10, 2012 11:52:48 AM +0100 Vincent Hoffman wrote: > If you are happy to use the integrated RAID (IR) mode and let the > driver/card handle RAID then > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=231679 > brought in support for this and > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=237876 > a new version of the driver. > A 9.1-RC1 install iso should pick it up fine. > Thanks, VIncent. Does 8.3 also have the support? Just wondering in case 9.1 RC1 is flaky on this particular box. > > No idea if you want to use software RAID over JBOD (Just a bunch of > disks) mode though. > I would have thought hardware RAID would be better than software RAID. No? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 15:26:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B23106564A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F178FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8AFQ8nU032393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:26:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <504E0690.1020608@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:26:08 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> <504DC680.30708@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Perc H200A X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:26:10 -0000 On 10/09/2012 15:39, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On September 10, 2012 11:52:48 AM +0100 Vincent Hoffman > wrote: > >> If you are happy to use the integrated RAID (IR) mode and let the >> driver/card handle RAID then >> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=231679 >> brought in support for this and >> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=237876 >> a new version of the driver. >> A 9.1-RC1 install iso should pick it up fine. >> > > Thanks, VIncent. Does 8.3 also have the support? Just wondering in > case 9.1 RC1 is flaky on this particular box. svnweb says yes http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/8.3/sys/dev/mps/mps.c?view=log > >> >> No idea if you want to use software RAID over JBOD (Just a bunch of >> disks) mode though. >> > > I would have thought hardware RAID would be better than software > RAID. No? > Hard to say here honestly. I've a few running as RAID under linux and they seem to perform well enough. However I know some people prefer using software RAID be it zfs or geom based RAID over hardware RAID. LSI decribes the LSI 9211 its based on as " 6Gb/s SATA+SAS HBA with PCIe 2.0 host interface and basic RAID" (they come under HBA on LSI's website not under RAID controllers.) Dell's info says the h200 has no onboard cache or battery backup unit. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/pvaul/topics/en/us/raid_controller?c=us&l=en&cs=555 and that it disables the onboard cache on the drives (a good thing for data integrity bad for performance) http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/Storlink/H200/en/UG/HTML/features.htm So the gain here is only really offloading the minimal CPU used for RAID management and that it gives you less admin overhead when changing disks (hotswap and go vs manually adding into software RAID) in this case. Vince From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 16:41:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9B1065670 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ayoung@mosaicarchive.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE548FC17 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so4123210obb.13 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=1wB3X4QyfnfsGQkObqyvL83vrIR8uBCkc8Ebm+SfWdo=; b=d5voHdaROxaAiViVWJ5EcXM2qnZpHjiPnSphON1jkZ8DzIjZWoPi5kEedZLn0Z4/wE vRrxyxBZ/UWpbT0NKzNFbAKIT2edKywrUbNveZTRpLUVimi4O6Jpkw4WLnle2cWMJ76D imK1eoAivdHGmVIZxJzBJRBaRmg1A/YOEXXQNRry1ctZCSgDkUh6kgoB2jrew7G/BEph +Fk1nHMLJxJuLMjafgJIixrNChEtjdzU01jl4OwxLFdwHcu0zT/BL7pBUHSbsY+EOYpH czahbAPbHBiWZdNnAGTng9mkbkrKTVeU4eioRWcCKZIAboekU+3DecF4rAlq92vVBYVR hK1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.13.226 with SMTP id k2mr14837221oec.14.1347295273467; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.174.38 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [96.237.242.243] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Andy Young To: Ivan Voras X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQky4OZw2xXc7z95KM1aci0HvBqQQ7P93bojOxUmjRfUPMZT8HSfof2u7MBARnrWrB1cwayy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD handle redundant SAS controllers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:41:15 -0000 Thanks Ivan. I will check it out. Andy On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 07/09/2012 16:53, Andy Young wrote: > > I'm having trouble finding information about this on the web. I have a > SAS > > backplane with redundant expanders designed so you can use redundant SAS > > controllers. Seems obvious to me that the drivers need to support two > cards > > pointing to the same drives. Does this work in FreeBSD? Does it matter > > which HBAs I buy? > > The closest thing to what you want is gmultipath: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?gmultipath > > -- Andrew Young Mosaic Storage Systems, Inc http://www.mosaicarchive.com/ Follow us on: Twitter , Facebook , Google Plus , Pinterest From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 16:40:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54702106564A for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EF88FC0C for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so1158256pbb.13 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ucsc.edu; s=ucsc-google; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=izEyCiOmxO9rXCwsy01aI1giD7nKXrGMqp3jouj9lfw=; b=BC0QIOqc2O9sqqAVr5z2X7pfsAgmU8jC8QwlhVe36+uQceSRGjYma4dtyGmdnmNjRY XoKgtMmMJ+bJy8CC4KFDN2oCeFDLIo4SgDCYmV3mNpg2sjZeWCDRyfrwPTU9xo3La8jD IxrEZzE9AF5Hf7iu/CfdqUeJioS/W81X4MF40= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=izEyCiOmxO9rXCwsy01aI1giD7nKXrGMqp3jouj9lfw=; b=JoS2HGn+a3yBHablWvjOot0/t+8oZbdfZuVxdEcXG87R3SZcRiGHrJPEECXn5VEqKw 2B2Mx04g0CWmKSbIyUdMA7VI75Jp6S+zOWoimzmHEtetq725P+ezpkNniXrlPnExeFrM K2MBWL7U3v185PW6OQ2Hx3AWCwTmG0gZrJHKomnSWyUrzmkrGSf3bl3N4Sc0BIHI1WoW QoazWNSNiplTVqsuIpsS0fDyIpqATmt7Kxj7Fzamba0kOW+GsiM6+QKL1mbypNC47/YZ dTmais2Tn6t57CYLJ7dB5wrAEEdZmy6Xo7n8RbNKEBZjyp+IQ6TOy1QTJfr/3P2VXEH/ KTYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.202.193 with SMTP id kk1mr11915045pbc.136.1347381613552; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.19.202 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:40:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Gustafson To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnOIDx+2Na85CIoVNtUYvoWQA41X4HRV68pTjkC7HAPeNL8UF3wiGOUdpiUVb7oMG6li66i Subject: Adaptec 51645 JBOD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:40:14 -0000 Hi, I have an Adaptec 51645 with 16 disks attached to it configured in a zpool. The machine was running FreeBSD 8.1. On Saturday, I rebooted this machine for the first time in about 421 days, and the zpool did not come back up. (Thankfully, the OS was on a separate zpool mirror, which came up just fine). Here are the dmesg entries related to the Adaptec card: aac0: mem 0xf5c00000-0xf5dfffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci5 aac0: Enabling 64-bit address support aac0: Enable Raw I/O aac0: Enable 64-bit array aac0: New comm. interface enabled aac0: Adaptec 51645, aac driver 2.1.9-1 Arcconf reports that all 16 drives are attached to the card, configured at JBOD disks, and are totally happy. But, I have no disk devices from this controller in /dev and zpool reports that all the vdev members are unavailable. Somewhere in the back of my mind is a little bell ringing that the driver for this particular card did not support JBOD disks, so that maybe I must have configured them on the Adaptec card as single-disk volumes and then added them that way, but it seems odd that every single disk would come up as "JBOD" after a reboot. There was no power event that would have fried this card - indeed, the reason I shut the machine down in the first place was so that the campus maintenance folks could work on a transformer, during which this entire server room was running on backup generator and UPS at reduced capacity. Is there a way to tell the Adaptec card to re-import the disks as however they were configured before? Why would my configuration have gotten wiped out? Is there some "commit the changes to your RAID card NVRAM" operation that I forgot to do 421 days ago, and now all is lost? In order to see if this was a driver issue, I did upgrade the machine to FreeBSD 9.0, but that did not help. The odd thing is that doing so changed the output of "zpool status" to: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM jails UNAVAIL 0 0 0 raidz1-0 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 993249040670530816 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da0 101352666830918296 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da1 7490690064963814786 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da2 13924510904345345941 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da3 4013204832063755390 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da4 6436589046534957596 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da5 14500669618010181738 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da6 12694081810231399908 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da7 raidz1-1 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 5434688327590400459 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da8 17670575082229357147 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da9 5479144358025821516 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da10 18069338760597396722 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da11 8544715284509422949 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da12 16642679029912355123 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da13 12021597569291021429 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da14 6034088543236281626 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/da15 I'm not familiar with those large integers; I'm more used to seeing GPT ID numbers, or device names. Thanks! -- Tim Gustafson tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 Baskin Engineering, Room 313A From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 20:24:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C171065670 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DC28FC15 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:24:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=+L5dYfeubEW4PLvjDgtIXQ==:17 a=WAZfUmVf-EkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=GE-5ag8CP4IA:10 a=kLW0Gr3WAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=GzfttSJt_VW5WeIrEdQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Bpg2_ke_ZEUA:10 a=+L5dYfeubEW4PLvjDgtIXQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.184.157.127 Received: from [76.184.157.127] ([76.184.157.127:52187] helo=[10.0.0.133]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id ED/B1-17657-96FE0505; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:24:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:24:09 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1AB92746AB3CBD5F5647BD16@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <504E0690.1020608@unsane.co.uk> References: <20120909095412.00005a47@unknown> <504DC680.30708@unsane.co.uk> <504E0690.1020608@unsane.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: Dell Perc H200A X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:24:17 -0000 --On September 10, 2012 4:26:08 PM +0100 Vincent Hoffman wrote: > > > Thanks, VIncent. Does 8.3 also have the support? Just wondering in case > 9.1 RC1 is flaky on this particular box. > > > svnweb says yes > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/8.3/sys/dev/mps/mps.c?view=log > Thanks for your help, Vincent. 8.3 is installed, and I'm working on setting up the server now. Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell