From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 14 16:21:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67C771D; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA44B8FC0C; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9EG0m7a076710; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9EG0lp1076685; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:00:47 -0700 From: Greg Lewis To: Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: java diablo-jdk Message-ID: <20121014160047.GA98503@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20121009231547.1f4cfa57@davenulle.org> <5074C1D7.3040209@FreeBSD.org> <20121010102806.GC26497@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121010102806.GC26497@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Patrick Lamaiziere , Jung-uk Kim , freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:21:55 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:28:06PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 08:31:19PM -0400, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 2012-10-09 17:15:47 -0400, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I do not see the point to keep diablo-jdk as a build dependency of > > > java. Is there something that prevent us to distribute a package > > > of openjdk, just to be able to built a native version of openjdk > > > or sunjdk ? > > > > No. The only problem is we have to provide entire sources + our > > patches along with the tarball *somewhere*, just to comply with GPL. > > > > > I'm tired of the "fetch the diablo-jdk from FreeBSD and agree with > > > the license". And even more since I use poudriere to build > > > packages. > > > > > > The FreeBSD java support is not bad (I'm happy with it, I can do > > > all my Java developpement on FreeBSD using netbeans and openjdk) > > > but this dependency on diablo really sucks. We don't need this > > > IMO. > > > > There are actually two possibilities, i.e., a) build openjdk from > > completely open-sourced and bootstrap-less environment or b) > > distribute special binary openjdk tarballs only for bootstrapping. b) > > is pretty straight forward (albeit the source distribution problem) > > and I am working on it as an interim solution. A preliminary port is > > here: > > > > https://redports.org/browser/jkim/java/bootstrap-openjdk > > > > However, I believe a) is the ultimate solution, e.g., ECJ/GCJ + GNU > > classpath + CacaoVM/JamVM/Avian, etc. (VMKit/LLVM is in my wildest > > dreams...) > > Being able to bootstrap using ECJ/GCJ would be awesome :D This is what icedtea does. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org