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[12.47.113.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p63sm34380800yhj.22.2012.02.18.16.56.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Kevin H. Patterson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:56:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on PowerMac Dual G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:24:01 -0000 Hello, I've taken an interest lately in running FreeBSD on the powerpc64 = architecture. I have access to a dual 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5, and I've = successfully got FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE up and running on it. Only one thing seems amiss so far... it feels *very* SLOW. I realize = this is an older machine, but it feels much too slow for a dual G5. = Compiling seems to take forever, and top shows ~50% or more "system" CPU = usage when doing almost anything other than sitting idle. Furthermore, = the system fans never speed up, but run at the lowest speed even when = the system is under full load. I have tried both enabling and disabling = powerd support, with no effect. For a quick sanity check, I installed ubench (0.32) from ports. The = numbers were quite disappointing: 109870 CPU / 50527 MEM multiprocessor, = and 55433 CPU / 30863 MEM single-processor. For comparison, I ran ubench (0.32 from MacPorts) under Mac OS X 10.5.8 = on the same machine. This time, the fans do ramp up, and the numbers are = *WAY* better: 277207 CPU / 317119 MEM multi-processor, and 141021 CPU / = 284113 MEM single-processor. As you can see, all is not well. I am wondering what is slowing FreeBSD = down on this machine. I have tried both GENERIC and my own kernel = config. It feels like the CPU and or bus speed is clocked down perhaps = to the most energy-saving level. Maybe this is where openfirmware leaves = it after boot? Also interesting is to note the drastic = *single-processor* ubench difference between macosx and freebsd. To me = this looks like a low clock-speed smoking gun. I also noticed that the kernel build includes flags like -msoft-float = and -mno-altivec...=20 I am interested in any build or config tweaks that might be in order. I = am also more than happy to debug and get to the bottom of this. Any = ideas? Sincerely, Kevin H. Patterson KHPtech kevpatt@khptech.com From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 05:15:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9531106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6628FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so5267612dae.13 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.225.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.225.73; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.225.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.225.73]) by 10.68.225.73 with SMTP id ri9mr47831230pbc.70.1329628524278 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9iIduKAoExpPZq0kq8gAZj27syD5vmQq6z65QZk9AWc=; b=K0xn/gRX5Wtn+CLXzD+oeyE7SmB3+iobvsfyi8E7TuHX8MzTqdcvDQGM4QVgTffyX8 k3YRanCz7Bem/wnVTwZO8BEkUKstszP8I1KIiBLNTesh/+zk2H2B5tjRv/TAmwfvVHR6 JJgYdRGo+E6KXnp6Fh0GM6JDV3m64l6zxm3Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.225.73 with SMTP id ri9mr39224687pbc.70.1329628524117; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> References: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:15:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: "Kevin H. Patterson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on PowerMac Dual G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:15:24 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/benchmarks/ubench/pkg-descr Notice that the description uses the word "senseless" more than once. Try compiling a program or a set of programs. On a low end B&W, I was able to compile firefox plus a few other applications. POWER/PowerPC is known for performance. The architecture is used in gaming systems for reason that it can pass instructions through once they are "learned." This may be a simplistic explanation of load-store but it is one you should be aware of. Both the Power and Power64 releases are Tier 2 and are worked on by a small group within the FreeBSD community. You can change the flags of make in /etc/make.conf if you wish. On 2/18/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: > Hello, > > I've taken an interest lately in running FreeBSD on the powerpc64 > architecture. I have access to a dual 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5, and I've > successfully got FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE up and running on it. > > Only one thing seems amiss so far... it feels *very* SLOW. I realize this is > an older machine, but it feels much too slow for a dual G5. Compiling seems > to take forever, and top shows ~50% or more "system" CPU usage when doing > almost anything other than sitting idle. Furthermore, the system fans never > speed up, but run at the lowest speed even when the system is under full > load. I have tried both enabling and disabling powerd support, with no > effect. > > For a quick sanity check, I installed ubench (0.32) from ports. The numbers > were quite disappointing: 109870 CPU / 50527 MEM multiprocessor, and 55433 > CPU / 30863 MEM single-processor. > > For comparison, I ran ubench (0.32 from MacPorts) under Mac OS X 10.5.8 on > the same machine. This time, the fans do ramp up, and the numbers are *WAY* > better: 277207 CPU / 317119 MEM multi-processor, and 141021 CPU / 284113 MEM > single-processor. > > As you can see, all is not well. I am wondering what is slowing FreeBSD down > on this machine. I have tried both GENERIC and my own kernel config. It > feels like the CPU and or bus speed is clocked down perhaps to the most > energy-saving level. Maybe this is where openfirmware leaves it after boot? > Also interesting is to note the drastic *single-processor* ubench difference > between macosx and freebsd. To me this looks like a low clock-speed smoking > gun. > > I also noticed that the kernel build includes flags like -msoft-float and > -mno-altivec... > > I am interested in any build or config tweaks that might be in order. I am > also more than happy to debug and get to the bottom of this. Any ideas? > > Sincerely, > > Kevin H. Patterson > KHPtech > > kevpatt@khptech.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 06:58:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6108106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61A38FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so5314236dae.13 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.129.228 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.129.228; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.129.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.129.228]) by 10.68.129.228 with SMTP id nz4mr28151762pbb.91.1329634718278 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:58:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dJCoUwCgEMem4gBrAqX4B4kCgesozAfAwUpEE699dR4=; b=ixouyb1Z+vez840I99Cvy7t3+pP3ZHFNC80Z5bAqJAsTPMrUg13hcr1CuFhEKszzA8 AUHwdo48+8FoZ0pSbE8giTsB+G08yMbkF8pNLcU3TmeFsjdQ1izi1CmiFoCbcBG9i4cI /GnXajGjYPpu6OAtFJjgU+RGDiarHIvTKrcok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.129.228 with SMTP id nz4mr23300598pbb.91.1329634718203; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:58:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D7B47E5-6A33-4426-8186-D5E9D5C9B32E@khptech.com> References: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> <4D7B47E5-6A33-4426-8186-D5E9D5C9B32E@khptech.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: "Kevin H. Patterson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on PowerMac Dual G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:58:38 -0000 How about real world benchmarks of compiling and running programs? You're going to get different benchmarks on different operating systems on the same machine. OpenBSD runs better than FreeBSD or Linux but you need more memory and a processor of 500MHz or greater on the PowerPC architecture. Everything affects the outcome. If there is no window manager, the response is better. If the kernel and base system is not "testing," the response is better. Et al.... You'd be better off comparing the performance of two machines running a real world application such as S4P. On 2/19/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: > I realize ubench is a far cry from comprehensive benchmarks. However, > although the absolute numbers are meaningless, it *is* designed to compare > systems directly with each other. > > There is no good reason I can think of why the *exact same code* for ubench > under macosx 10.5 and ubench under freebsd 9.0 would show a relative speed > of 1/3 when running on freebsd. uBench is a simple program, written in C. > While the calculations involved might be senseless, there is, again, no good > reason why freebsd should run this "senseless" code at 1/3 of the speed that > it runs under macosx. > > This is not my imagination; I'd be happy to compare some other benchmarks if > you like. > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:15 AM, Super Bisquit wrote: > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/benchmarks/ubench/pkg-descr >> >> Notice that the description uses the word "senseless" more than once. >> >> Try compiling a program or a set of programs. On a low end B&W, I was >> able to compile firefox plus a few other applications. POWER/PowerPC >> is known for performance. >> The architecture is used in gaming systems for reason that it can pass >> instructions through once they are "learned." This may be a simplistic >> explanation of load-store but it is one you should be aware of. >> >> Both the Power and Power64 releases are Tier 2 and are worked on by a >> small group within the FreeBSD community. >> >> You can change the flags of make in /etc/make.conf if you wish. >> >> On 2/18/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've taken an interest lately in running FreeBSD on the powerpc64 >>> architecture. I have access to a dual 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5, and I've >>> successfully got FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE up and running on it. >>> >>> Only one thing seems amiss so far... it feels *very* SLOW. I realize this >>> is >>> an older machine, but it feels much too slow for a dual G5. Compiling >>> seems >>> to take forever, and top shows ~50% or more "system" CPU usage when doing >>> almost anything other than sitting idle. Furthermore, the system fans >>> never >>> speed up, but run at the lowest speed even when the system is under full >>> load. I have tried both enabling and disabling powerd support, with no >>> effect. >>> >>> For a quick sanity check, I installed ubench (0.32) from ports. The >>> numbers >>> were quite disappointing: 109870 CPU / 50527 MEM multiprocessor, and >>> 55433 >>> CPU / 30863 MEM single-processor. >>> >>> For comparison, I ran ubench (0.32 from MacPorts) under Mac OS X 10.5.8 >>> on >>> the same machine. This time, the fans do ramp up, and the numbers are >>> *WAY* >>> better: 277207 CPU / 317119 MEM multi-processor, and 141021 CPU / 284113 >>> MEM >>> single-processor. >>> >>> As you can see, all is not well. I am wondering what is slowing FreeBSD >>> down >>> on this machine. I have tried both GENERIC and my own kernel config. It >>> feels like the CPU and or bus speed is clocked down perhaps to the most >>> energy-saving level. Maybe this is where openfirmware leaves it after >>> boot? >>> Also interesting is to note the drastic *single-processor* ubench >>> difference >>> between macosx and freebsd. To me this looks like a low clock-speed >>> smoking >>> gun. >>> >>> I also noticed that the kernel build includes flags like -msoft-float and >>> -mno-altivec... >>> >>> I am interested in any build or config tweaks that might be in order. I >>> am >>> also more than happy to debug and get to the bottom of this. Any ideas? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Kevin H. Patterson >>> KHPtech >>> >>> kevpatt@khptech.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:47:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EB2106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336E58FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:47:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LZN0002SLJCTL00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:47:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (pc2.sgchiba-unet.ocn.ne.jp [220.110.182.82]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZN00C3QLJA3720@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:47:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:47:32 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> To: "Kevin H. Patterson" Message-id: <4F4143C4.8030403@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Score-Internal: ******* X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-14, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.2.19.183330, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 References: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111213 Thunderbird/8.0 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on PowerMac Dual G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:47:37 -0000 On 02/18/12 18:56, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: > Hello, > > I've taken an interest lately in running FreeBSD on the powerpc64 > architecture. I have access to a dual 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5, and I've > successfully got FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE up and running on it. > > Only one thing seems amiss so far... it feels *very* SLOW. I realize > this is an older machine, but it feels much too slow for a dual G5. > Compiling seems to take forever, and top shows ~50% or more "system" > CPU usage when doing almost anything other than sitting idle. > Furthermore, the system fans never speed up, but run at the lowest > speed even when the system is under full load. I have tried both > enabling and disabling powerd support, with no effect. > > For a quick sanity check, I installed ubench (0.32) from ports. The > numbers were quite disappointing: 109870 CPU / 50527 MEM > multiprocessor, and 55433 CPU / 30863 MEM single-processor. > > For comparison, I ran ubench (0.32 from MacPorts) under Mac OS X > 10.5.8 on the same machine. This time, the fans do ramp up, and the > numbers are *WAY* better: 277207 CPU / 317119 MEM multi-processor, > and 141021 CPU / 284113 MEM single-processor. The very nearly a factor of two is suspicious. Can you check in dmesg if your reported CPU speed is what you think it should be? Some G5s boot with their CPUs at half-frequency. On most 970MP and 970FX systems, you can change the CPU with a sysctl (cpufreq(4)), but on others we don't have a driver yet. The fan speed may not mean anything -- the fans are software managed and FreeBSD uses a different algorithm than OS X. > As you can see, all is not well. I am wondering what is slowing > FreeBSD down on this machine. I have tried both GENERIC and my own > kernel config. It feels like the CPU and or bus speed is clocked down > perhaps to the most energy-saving level. Maybe this is where > openfirmware leaves it after boot? Also interesting is to note the > drastic *single-processor* ubench difference between macosx and > freebsd. To me this looks like a low clock-speed smoking gun. > > I also noticed that the kernel build includes flags like -msoft-float > and -mno-altivec... These flags just affect internal kernel state-keeping and don't affect anything (since the kernel doesn't use any floating point, for instance). OS X and Linux are built the same way, and FreeBSD on x86 is built with equivalent flags. > I am interested in any build or config tweaks that might be in order. > I am also more than happy to debug and get to the bottom of this. Any > ideas? If the CPU speed is in fact right, it's possible you've just run into limitations of our kernel. PowerPC64 is a new platform, and the emphasis was more to get it working than to optimize things (this is also mostly true of 32-bit PPC). It's possible there are some large bottlenecks in the VM system. Straight numerical code (something like sha256 -t) is not affected by such problems, but things that involve spawning and reaping large numbers of processes might be. Andreas Tobler (andreast@freebsd.org) was doing some work recently on kernel profiling, and I'm sure would appreciate some help identifying hotspots. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 21:36:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA81D106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robballantyne3@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482D18FC17 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq11 with SMTP id dq11so4133977wgb.31 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robballantyne3@gmail.com designates 10.180.7.231 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.7.231; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robballantyne3@gmail.com designates 10.180.7.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=robballantyne3@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=robballantyne3@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.7.231]) by 10.180.7.231 with SMTP id m7mr16911592wia.3.1329687408219 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vp9mYYEiLA3s594hM9P0xJmn4jN1RwUQSlQKh6cmXkY=; b=AZdF6OPVeGdvU18LukS7GVygXBPh9oFIwpOyifAPwtSU0VIJbFvFUZZivT+QWpF/EC 6tsBAP07AsHSGAYZErWqXFbz0v6UGWW71d9RmJO38wEJdEtBlPLVypjN5AStxWFvHZNj aBSPr2O6+vTs8TMAMnUr98o1l49KDv4Ww9lmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.7.231 with SMTP id m7mr14234055wia.3.1329687408136; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.76.14 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Ballantyne To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Proper method to checkout stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:36:49 -0000 Hi All, I'm doing a 'svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 src' on another machine (OS X, because I can't get subversion installed locally) and it's producing an error: ... A src/share/man/man9/vget.9 svn: In directory 'src/share/man/man9' svn: Can't open file 'src/share/man/man9/.svn/tmp/text-base/VFS_MOUNT.9.svn-base': No such file or directory Is check-out somehow dependent on being written to the correct location on a FreeBSD machine? Thanks, Rob From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 21:42:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9821065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C218FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so8973009iae.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of chmeeedalf@gmail.com designates 10.50.15.132 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.15.132; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of chmeeedalf@gmail.com designates 10.50.15.132 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=chmeeedalf@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=chmeeedalf@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.15.132]) by 10.50.15.132 with SMTP id x4mr8998274igc.27.1329687751958 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pA7PArNQnpaBeTZ1/5J5TKdbhEaBwQMWAGoqKd0evvo=; b=StGXP6j4oaOeJAskJuB7TN8axjY0wLIp+crj0pWzozUpkivqIUpcxNuuqESWzdyAcz sEnZqabD3Vq2YcE/P5I3dOVakyO7XJ1NTokJ1u2WO9U+NOt4K8fwOit+yg+Z1Z1Y+q5I Abtvq0Md/g31oCoj+rCCPopnevKrbQWpguYFA= Received: by 10.50.15.132 with SMTP id x4mr7308059igc.27.1329687751912; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from narn.knownspace (216-15-41-8.c3-0.gth-ubr1.lnh-gth.md.cable.rcn.com. [216.15.41.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm25412239ibe.8.2012.02.19.13.42.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:42:28 -0500 From: Justin Hibbits To: Rob Ballantyne Message-ID: <20120219164228.60fc57e9@narn.knownspace> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; powerpc-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper method to checkout stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:42:33 -0000 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 Rob Ballantyne wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm doing a 'svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 src' on > another machine (OS X, because I can't get subversion installed > locally) and it's producing an error: > ... > A src/share/man/man9/vget.9 > svn: In directory 'src/share/man/man9' > svn: Can't open file > 'src/share/man/man9/.svn/tmp/text-base/VFS_MOUNT.9.svn-base': No such > file or directory > > Is check-out somehow dependent on being written to the correct > location on a FreeBSD machine? > > Thanks, > Rob That error is usually caused by checking out on a case-insensitive filesystem. Check out into a case-sensitive disk image and you should be fine. - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 21:51:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA89F106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8900A8FC17 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:51:49 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LZN0030EU2CUV00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:51:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (pc2.sgchiba-unet.ocn.ne.jp [220.110.182.82]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZN000NNU27PP00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:51:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:51:41 +0900 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: To: Super Bisquit Message-id: <4F416EED.6080809@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Score-Internal: ******* X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-15, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.2.19.214515, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 References: <20120218171218.323c614b@narn.knownspace> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111213 Thunderbird/8.0 Cc: Justin Hibbits , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ports not building shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:51:49 -0000 This is likely a 10.0 issue. If you need 9.0, it's also worth pointing out that the ports team is now building official packages for powerpc (32-bit only), which can be found in the expected place on the FTP servers. -Nathan On 02/19/12 08:23, Super Bisquit wrote: > I have a package of fribidi already built. > http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-powerpc-9-0-current-updated-packages/downloads/list?num=100&start=0 > Look on the second page. The reason for the repository was to make > available packages so that a user could dedicate more time to other > tasks on the PowerPC machines. > Aside: My system needed to be reinstalled due to me foolishly erasing > a few libs. If there are any packages that you want built or need to > be rebuilt on that repository, then let me know. > > On 2/18/12, Justin Hibbits wrote: >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:58:03 -0800 >> Rob Ballantyne wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I ran into this while trying to install emacs. The chain of >>> dependancies leads to package fribidi-0.19.2_1. It seems emacs looks >>> for a shared library that is supposed to be built via this package. >>> >>> If I build: >>> >>> >>> mac# make install >>> ===> Installing for fribidi-0.19.2_1 >>> ===> fribidi-0.19.2_1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found >>> ===> Generating temporary packing list >>> ===> Checking if converters/fribidi already installed >>> gmake install-recursive >>> >>> >>> .... >>> >>> ===> Compressing manual pages for fribidi-0.19.2_1 >>> ===> Running ldconfig >>> /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib >>> ===> Registering installation for fribidi-0.19.2_1 >>> >>> >>> everything works just fine but notice: >>> >>> mac# ls -l /usr/local/lib/libfri* >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 122646 Feb 18 >>> 13:53 /usr/local/lib/libfribidi.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 876 >>> Feb 18 13:53 /usr/local/lib/libfribidi.la >>> >>> And, now if I try to remove it: >>> >>> mac# pkg_delete fribidi-0.19.2_1 >>> pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/lib/libfribidi.so' doesn't exist >>> pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/lib/libfribidi.so.3' doesn't exist >>> pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package `fribidi-0.19.2_1' >>> (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) >>> mac# >>> >>> Is this a known issue? (I searched but couldn't find anything). >>> >>> Is there a trick (standard or otherwise) to get the build to build the >>> necessary shared library. >>> >>> (I've run into this on at least one other occasion but I can't recall >>> the package involved in that case). >>> >>> Thanks for any advice! >>> >>> Rob >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> I ran into something similar to this a few months ago, and blamed it on >> the transition to 10-CURRENT (see the various threads on current@ for >> more details). Updating world and ports to recent seems to have fixed >> it for me. >> >> - Justin >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 21:57:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9235D1065673; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6049F8FC0A; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:57:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LZN00E00UB3WK00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:57:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (pc2.sgchiba-unet.ocn.ne.jp [220.110.182.82]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZN009OLUB1RD10@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:57:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:56:59 +0900 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: To: Super Bisquit Message-id: <4F41702B.6080506@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Score-Internal: ******* X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-16, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.2.19.214815, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111213 Thunderbird/8.0 Cc: freebsd-current , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Problems with 9.0 PowerPC images from main ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:57:04 -0000 On 02/19/12 04:28, Super Bisquit wrote: > I decided to try burning an image from Index of > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/powerpc/powerpc/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ > > And here are the following errors: > > 1.) The usb image doesn't boot. From following Whitehorn and others on > the FreeBSD PowerPC mailing list, one needs to have the bootloader > dd'ed to a HFS formatted partition of 1MB. The USB image includes this. Some Powermacs don't have the ability to boot from USB, however. > A README with basic instructions and/or references to forum and > mailing list posts needs to be available for all non i386/amd64 > systems. > > 2) The boot-only and disc-1 images stop at > sc0: Unknown<16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> What hardware were you using? The ISOs work fine on at least the systems I've tested on. There was a problem with the ATA driver on a few machines that could supposedly be solved by setting the loader tunable hint.ata.X.mode to turn off DMA (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164123). -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 00:39:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD1A106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robballantyne3@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B858FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so4634394wer.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robballantyne3@gmail.com designates 10.180.92.71 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.92.71; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robballantyne3@gmail.com designates 10.180.92.71 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=robballantyne3@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=robballantyne3@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.92.71]) by 10.180.92.71 with SMTP id ck7mr16184284wib.3.1329698397551 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OlMcxKlmxzpZLOporA5arPpwKFiFrK4KAFGw262zdfs=; b=qtziNaHz+RaKLmlhfRGYYhm1r05MNiRuBLHCEFp3s3kZ5ZS/UGx25fiBnsPKU2pGro HSr9EbNkfaVvakFeQwy3rF+XUR8sMYcT28RL36mcMNCjbJWUpBdMDCyH36NW/D+7nzdk kXwuDH2n0ZYMhPgOspPPZIu8yOTxdncY2rMNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.92.71 with SMTP id ck7mr13569013wib.3.1329698397509; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.76.14 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120219164228.60fc57e9@narn.knownspace> References: <20120219164228.60fc57e9@narn.knownspace> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:39:57 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Ballantyne To: Justin Hibbits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper method to checkout stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:39:59 -0000 That might have taken me a while to realize! Thanks, Rob On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Justin Hibbits wrot= e: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:36:48 -0800 > Rob Ballantyne wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> =A0 I'm doing a 'svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 src' on >> another machine (OS X, because I can't get subversion installed >> locally) and it's producing an error: >> ... >> A =A0 =A0src/share/man/man9/vget.9 >> svn: In directory 'src/share/man/man9' >> svn: Can't open file >> 'src/share/man/man9/.svn/tmp/text-base/VFS_MOUNT.9.svn-base': No such >> file or directory >> >> =A0 Is check-out somehow dependent on being written to the correct >> location on a FreeBSD machine? >> >> =A0 Thanks, >> Rob > > That error is usually caused by checking out on a case-insensitive > filesystem. =A0Check out into a case-sensitive disk image and you should > be fine. > > - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 11:07:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10C1065676 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9F38FC21 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1KB7CnD090212 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:07:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1KB7CgM090210 for freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:07:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:07:12 GMT Message-Id: <201202201107.q1KB7CgM090210@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:07:13 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o power/164225 ppc Boot fails on IBM 7028-6E1 (heap memory claim failed) o power/162091 ppc FreeBSD/ppc CD crashes Mac OS X o power/161947 ppc multimedia/libdvdnav builds broken binaries on big end o power/161045 ppc X doesn't detect ADB mouse up event until another even o power/149009 ppc sysinstall(8) on powerpc fails to install manpages, so o power/140241 ppc [kernel] [patch] Linker set problems on PowerPC EABI o power/135576 ppc gdb cannot debug threaded programs on ppc o power/133503 ppc [sound] Sound stutter after switching ttys o power/133382 ppc [install] Installer gets signal 11 o power/131548 ppc ofw_syscons no longer supports 32-bit framebuffer 10 problems total. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 18:50:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1429F106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3ED48FC08 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so6758371dae.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.223.68 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.223.68; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.223.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.223.68]) by 10.68.223.68 with SMTP id qs4mr65147958pbc.112.1329763839593 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YWoNRDAlIPcjPIfZloVzs1OmYmOKEk6YU/NK2uAr6HU=; b=m8AnVF4N+SwV69hierkY0+RAcyV3vKJVCwQFO0ZUEcD38gPwH89DSjc7vMr0ks/E37 vNeMn25jEEUT9BVH9J3VaapggAzymvhNRCcH41LefuSuxUtlcIIt1TV+M5E/cLaFj89J q2Ufz2Gf2gF619CHeUJRSlK5irWp/4sGAoGeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.223.68 with SMTP id qs4mr53761922pbc.112.1329763839454; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8830CCB0-1417-4678-A766-151080BF7796@khptech.com> References: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> <4D7B47E5-6A33-4426-8186-D5E9D5C9B32E@khptech.com> <8830CCB0-1417-4678-A766-151080BF7796@khptech.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:50:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: "Kevin H. Patterson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on PowerMac Dual G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:50:40 -0000 . Try cd /usr/src and look at sys/dev at the codes there <- My opinion and the way I recently started looking at hardware errors, those mentioned in the list above arew better at it. On 2/19/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: > I am interested in raw cpu integer and floating-point performance only, at > this point. This is *exactly* what simple synthetic benchmarks (like ubench) > are for. There is absolutely NO reason why performance should be 3x better > running under macosx than under freebsd, on the exact same hardware. Things happen that way. I've ran a firefox benchmark on different architecture running different systems and received different results. > > FWIW, I ran these benchmarks repeatedly, as root, after a clean boot, with > no window manager or other processes running. 'top' shows the cpus maxed out > on both macosx and freebsd. Under macosx, on the other hand, with the full > macosx GUI et. al. running, the numbers are about 3x better. > There's also the fact that Apple concentrated its efforts on the Power(PC) architecture. FreeBSD is not a single instance system- by this I mean an all-in-one hardware and software- such as MacOSX or Windows. > I have also run a number of other benchmarks, as well as compiling various > things like x11/gnome2, etc. It is all about 2-3x slower to build under > freebsd. > > At this point the strongest evidence points to the G5 clock / bus speeds not > being set up properly under freebsd. I am wondering who might have more info > on checking this out. Probably Whitehorn, HIbbits, and Grehan > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Super Bisquit wrote: > >> How about real world benchmarks of compiling and running programs? >> You're going to get different benchmarks on different operating >> systems on the same machine. OpenBSD runs better than FreeBSD or Linux >> but you need more memory and a processor of 500MHz or greater on the >> PowerPC architecture. Everything affects the outcome. >> >> If there is no window manager, the response is better. If the kernel >> and base system is not "testing," the response is better. Et al.... >> >> You'd be better off comparing the performance of two machines running >> a real world application such as S4P. >> >> >> >> On 2/19/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: >>> I realize ubench is a far cry from comprehensive benchmarks. However, >>> although the absolute numbers are meaningless, it *is* designed to >>> compare >>> systems directly with each other. >>> >>> There is no good reason I can think of why the *exact same code* for >>> ubench >>> under macosx 10.5 and ubench under freebsd 9.0 would show a relative >>> speed >>> of 1/3 when running on freebsd. uBench is a simple program, written in C. >>> While the calculations involved might be senseless, there is, again, no >>> good >>> reason why freebsd should run this "senseless" code at 1/3 of the speed >>> that >>> it runs under macosx. >>> >>> This is not my imagination; I'd be happy to compare some other benchmarks >>> if >>> you like. >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:15 AM, Super Bisquit wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/benchmarks/ubench/pkg-descr >>>> >>>> Notice that the description uses the word "senseless" more than once. >>>> >>>> Try compiling a program or a set of programs. On a low end B&W, I was >>>> able to compile firefox plus a few other applications. POWER/PowerPC >>>> is known for performance. >>>> The architecture is used in gaming systems for reason that it can pass >>>> instructions through once they are "learned." This may be a simplistic >>>> explanation of load-store but it is one you should be aware of. >>>> >>>> Both the Power and Power64 releases are Tier 2 and are worked on by a >>>> small group within the FreeBSD community. >>>> >>>> You can change the flags of make in /etc/make.conf if you wish. >>>> >>>> On 2/18/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I've taken an interest lately in running FreeBSD on the powerpc64 >>>>> architecture. I have access to a dual 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5, and I've >>>>> successfully got FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE up and running on it. >>>>> >>>>> Only one thing seems amiss so far... it feels *very* SLOW. I realize >>>>> this >>>>> is >>>>> an older machine, but it feels much too slow for a dual G5. Compiling >>>>> seems >>>>> to take forever, and top shows ~50% or more "system" CPU usage when >>>>> doing >>>>> almost anything other than sitting idle. Furthermore, the system fans >>>>> never >>>>> speed up, but run at the lowest speed even when the system is under >>>>> full >>>>> load. I have tried both enabling and disabling powerd support, with no >>>>> effect. >>>>> >>>>> For a quick sanity check, I installed ubench (0.32) from ports. The >>>>> numbers >>>>> were quite disappointing: 109870 CPU / 50527 MEM multiprocessor, and >>>>> 55433 >>>>> CPU / 30863 MEM single-processor. >>>>> >>>>> For comparison, I ran ubench (0.32 from MacPorts) under Mac OS X 10.5.8 >>>>> on >>>>> the same machine. This time, the fans do ramp up, and the numbers are >>>>> *WAY* >>>>> better: 277207 CPU / 317119 MEM multi-processor, and 141021 CPU / >>>>> 284113 >>>>> MEM >>>>> single-processor. >>>>> >>>>> As you can see, all is not well. I am wondering what is slowing FreeBSD >>>>> down >>>>> on this machine. I have tried both GENERIC and my own kernel config. It >>>>> feels like the CPU and or bus speed is clocked down perhaps to the most >>>>> energy-saving level. Maybe this is where openfirmware leaves it after >>>>> boot? >>>>> Also interesting is to note the drastic *single-processor* ubench >>>>> difference >>>>> between macosx and freebsd. To me this looks like a low clock-speed >>>>> smoking >>>>> gun. >>>>> >>>>> I also noticed that the kernel build includes flags like -msoft-float >>>>> and >>>>> -mno-altivec... >>>>> >>>>> I am interested in any build or config tweaks that might be in order. I >>>>> am >>>>> also more than happy to debug and get to the bottom of this. Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin H. Patterson >>>>> KHPtech >>>>> >>>>> kevpatt@khptech.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>> >>> > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 19:27:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDF71065670 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D041C8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:27:27 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LZP00A02I1ROD00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (pc2.sgchiba-unet.ocn.ne.jp [220.110.182.82]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZP00401I1OSQ20@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:27:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:27:23 +0900 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: To: Super Bisquit Message-id: <4F429E9B.4040500@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Score-Internal: ******* X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-16, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.2.20.191816, SenderIP=220.110.182.82 References: <3934AD65-E01C-4DDD-8BDC-F52C6AE3655F@khptech.com> <4D7B47E5-6A33-4426-8186-D5E9D5C9B32E@khptech.com> <8830CCB0-1417-4678-A766-151080BF7796@khptech.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Thunderbird/10.0.2 Cc: "Kevin H. Patterson" , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on PowerMac Dual G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:27:28 -0000 Not sure where the the intermediate emails on this thread went, so I'll jump in again. On 02/21/12 03:50, Super Bisquit wrote: > . > On 2/19/12, Kevin H. Patterson wrote: >> I am interested in raw cpu integer and floating-point performance only, at >> this point. This is *exactly* what simple synthetic benchmarks (like ubench) >> are for. There is absolutely NO reason why performance should be 3x better >> running under macosx than under freebsd, on the exact same hardware. > > Things happen that way. I've ran a firefox benchmark on different > architecture running different systems and received different results. On G5s that I know are properly configured (a dual-core Powermac and an iMac), numerical code runs at exactly equal speed on the two operating systems, or a little faster on FreeBSD if it spends a lot of time in the math library (Apple appears to have optimized system binaries with -Os in 10.5 for PowerPC, which pessimizes performance). If you have purely numerical code (check md5 -t, which both OSes have) with large offsets then something is clearly not set up correctly. Did you have a chance to check the reported CPU speed in dmesg? Also, did you boot from the OF prompt or via autoboot? Some Apple G5 systems will slow the CPU and bus by large factors, in a way FreeBSD can't yet correct, if you start from an OF prompt. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 06:13:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29401065680; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9E8FC14; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcxa7 with SMTP id xa7so7832907pbc.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:13:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ciBYD4n9OrlTiLN7xra7SyY2dDm+JiPkX/R15Y+XZ68=; b=Zuk3zdGngFXCJDEmxcHSIImCuyo6SC1QcTjMB9q89Xn5dxS2Tk/WenX82X500JU3Ek Voi+pe7aTyjWaMbpL9cOvSfDxYD87kZIUB1+nWfLAzufN1WY4zz+f4o9kz3lxB45rVRe UL+dSsuyJxxwMClN1rbMes26tQQa9bl79lAow= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.240.135 with SMTP id wa7mr58539011pbc.7.1329804828349; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:13:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F41702B.6080506@freebsd.org> References: <4F41702B.6080506@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:13:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Problems with 9.0 PowerPC images from main ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:13:49 -0000 It may have been the media I used. I was able to install from the releases on your FreeBSD repo page. I have an iMac G4 800MHz that is being used. Also, the firmware is at 3.X if that means anything. On 2/19/12, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 02/19/12 04:28, Super Bisquit wrote: >> I decided to try burning an image from Index of >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/powerpc/powerpc/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ >> >> And here are the following errors: >> >> 1.) The usb image doesn't boot. From following Whitehorn and others on >> the FreeBSD PowerPC mailing list, one needs to have the bootloader >> dd'ed to a HFS formatted partition of 1MB. > > The USB image includes this. Some Powermacs don't have the ability to > boot from USB, however. > >> A README with basic instructions and/or references to forum and >> mailing list posts needs to be available for all non i386/amd64 >> systems. >> >> 2) The boot-only and disc-1 images stop at >> sc0: Unknown<16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > > What hardware were you using? The ISOs work fine on at least the systems > I've tested on. There was a problem with the ATA driver on a few > machines that could supposedly be solved by setting the loader tunable > hint.ata.X.mode to turn off DMA (see > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164123). > -Nathan > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 06:41:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2906E106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB598FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so7331450dae.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.197.196 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.197.196; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.197.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.197.196]) by 10.68.197.196 with SMTP id iw4mr8568978pbc.133.1329806518547 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:41:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QBl5lLd4EVFA+WJFtM5KwzLkHXsdJXeNmDtX++1vubk=; b=SKo4lBna8UZtWL6/VwTUzlxGZL9JocdpW34/FLa7HcXU8ejnDBaX8Ci9oNWW0mS4Y3 dr9W0fAB/uMInyJPI5nn8xDvEf0gAT05VVrjOhRTXmHbyQxKJypBRipfWNxwqfiZ00RV aXsm9z02rorDKiKdop/z4MQiMaEvhGWFFEP5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.197.196 with SMTP id iw4mr6827460pbc.133.1329806518514; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:41:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:41:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:31:24 +0000 Subject: Question on community support X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:41:59 -0000 Are there members here who are part of the IBM POWER group? Will FreeBSD ever join the group and add its contributions? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 14:19:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7AC1065673 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from thalia-smout.broadpark.no (thalia-smout.broadpark.no [80.202.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BCF8FC20 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from terra-smin.broadpark.no ([80.202.8.13]) by thalia-smout.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LZQ00JQIYFZ80C0@thalia-smout.broadpark.no> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:19:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no ([84.215.134.159]) by terra-smin.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0LZQ004TKYFZZI60@terra-smin.broadpark.no> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:19:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:19:10 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-id: <20120221151910.d8f56d3c.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.2 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Question on community support X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:19:13 -0000 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:41:58 -0500 Super Bisquit wrote: > Are there members here who are part of the IBM POWER group? I hadn't heard of that one. Do you have any links to more information? (Googling only got me less interesting results, the same with DuckDuckGo) That also implies that I'm not a member of said group, not to my knowledge at least. :) -- Torfinn From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 16:31:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA70106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D99F8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so7902951dae.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.197.196 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.197.196; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.197.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.197.196]) by 10.68.197.196 with SMTP id iw4mr14441137pbc.133.1329841918846 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:31:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4A9VshbTzd/dVC2VCeDzDRxXdoFW5a8YmL9xlDdH7hc=; b=D0hf1V7TAMa1RsiShUZUfMebN352G4VXdOW6UIv2W48tc4B3WFPXX0Y3geTTclU/uP oJq25G+T08SdQGTMzxUkRYO+NkWelWEBd14DYAMrsXoSCP6vEXOoDahrSGDI6CcsgGhs ufmYnah8sMH0Rv9W1equnCNFiY/gzHNjgGGyY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.197.196 with SMTP id iw4mr11721861pbc.133.1329841918748; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:31:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120221151910.d8f56d3c.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> References: <20120221151910.d8f56d3c.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:31:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Question on community support X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:31:59 -0000 It's actually the PowerLinux community. It would not hurt for the FreeBSD PowerPC community to take an active part in the group. And it would not hurt the PowerLinux group from learning from others. I'm hoping that this idea will not become fodder for the political activists of the two communities. If it does, please close off this thread. On 2/21/12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:41:58 -0500 > Super Bisquit wrote: > >> Are there members here who are part of the IBM POWER group? > > I hadn't heard of that one. Do you have any links to more information? > (Googling only got me less interesting results, the same with DuckDuckGo) > > That also implies that I'm not a member of said group, not to my knowledge > at least. :) > -- > Torfinn > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 17:09:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2FE106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8ED8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so7944582dae.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.225.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.225.73; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.225.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.225.73]) by 10.68.225.73 with SMTP id ri9mr77290284pbc.70.1329844157251 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:09:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LBGyDv1c6L4m0kGsZ8IWS9FyQ7iouW25d5B2TJtaEb0=; b=dZipumEu7uIeAMiJvdAHznMKABukLEPOs9zpDgcWxquvih3C8IQXo9Yb0/br8KJky3 Z/mzacLpL2w++XIj2xfg16AAYRurGkGbb/mzxEmfxWBWJGrBtztOYYl75NJcoL5Hv/bU pZXgDhvfSTuEK4ZYMCjVn4D1NrzyJyKRHHdso= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.225.73 with SMTP id ri9mr63724754pbc.70.1329844157167; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:09:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120221151910.d8f56d3c.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:09:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Question on community support X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:09:17 -0000 Or others, like this: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/fe313521-2e95-46f2-817d-44a4f27eba32/entry/do_you_use_java_741?lang=en in which FreeBSD would have a direct hand in the development of such applications. On 2/21/12, Super Bisquit wrote: > It's actually the PowerLinux community. > It would not hurt for the FreeBSD PowerPC community to take an active > part in the group. And it would not hurt the PowerLinux group from > learning from others. > > I'm hoping that this idea will not become fodder for the political > activists of the two communities. > If it does, please close off this thread. > > > > On 2/21/12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:41:58 -0500 >> Super Bisquit wrote: >> >>> Are there members here who are part of the IBM POWER group? >> >> I hadn't heard of that one. Do you have any links to more information? >> (Googling only got me less interesting results, the same with DuckDuckGo) >> >> That also implies that I'm not a member of said group, not to my >> knowledge >> at least. :) >> -- >> Torfinn >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 23:52:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B082F1065672 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862AB8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcxa7 with SMTP id xa7so814901pbc.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.218.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.218.161; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.218.161 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.218.161]) by 10.68.218.161 with SMTP id ph1mr94269217pbc.107.1329954746142 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GdCbCSUO/bNPQuxYTlw2KJdV9hYijkr82TiB37WyvvA=; b=Brz7P7kjlMTXROzmoFh+iTGIzr9ji51Pk+g1NEB6DJZH4mKpvg73bI94/yTcoTkDC6 3y6qnJNptrGtrMXY2IcNc7nbrpj6odycdqN3QGBnZlZeaeRO7x4CdRa/ofqHrm7te+5a 9NLy1i9ZGvFwGKO0aL4fqKHa8Gf7FAOdwR7ZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.218.161 with SMTP id ph1mr77497160pbc.107.1329954746093; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Suggestions for porting software and other items X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:52:26 -0000 How difficult would it be for me to port JAVA to FreeBSD on the Power(PC) platform? I don't know code but I can use another port as a a template. I've just joined the IBM POWER community and have access to the Linux version of JAVA. Second. I recently met a gentleman from NASA; I'll get back to this in a minute. Anyway ...., NASA's programs are open sourced now. One program/suite that would probably work better on either the Power(PC) or SPARC architecture is S4P. After talking with the person in question, I learned about NASA's internship program. I'm just curious as to whether or not there is a need/want/desire for having FreeBSD systems in such an area. Way of topic: Does anyone think that combining the SPARC and POWER architectures into a single cpu would be beneficial? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 02:55:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB88106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA858FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so1187875iae.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of chmeeedalf@gmail.com designates 10.50.15.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.15.234; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of chmeeedalf@gmail.com designates 10.50.15.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=chmeeedalf@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=chmeeedalf@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.15.234]) by 10.50.15.234 with SMTP id a10mr1173042igd.29.1329965749960 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GbOFrbokcB/9ioZwcw6MlDn3+7oQKlNriGGPdVH9BNE=; b=SLH1CB3w/uoTbgIx6q9cRtC89WbE7z1koSV0qfNl/d0yQomU5SAc2Qzd9zQ8MORcLH njRFxS9v8rX3kWaPvSq8fxeHcqIx+33KON5CmsaiwyBWh1v3zmFMHRLJAqR+/mNoVpRw aitX+qmhpupoBAbXEJMf2NHkZOWcKgyv7zvsg= Received: by 10.50.15.234 with SMTP id a10mr1011094igd.29.1329965749908; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from narn.knownspace (216-15-41-8.c3-0.gth-ubr1.lnh-gth.md.cable.rcn.com. [216.15.41.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z22sm39827118ibg.5.2012.02.22.18.55.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:55:46 -0500 From: Justin Hibbits To: Super Bisquit Message-ID: <20120222215546.26d79836@narn.knownspace> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; powerpc-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Suggestions for porting software and other items X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:55:50 -0000 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:26 -0500 Super Bisquit wrote: > How difficult would it be for me to port JAVA to FreeBSD on the > Power(PC) platform? > I don't know code but I can use another port as a a template. I've > just joined the IBM POWER community and have access to the Linux > version of JAVA. > > Second. I recently met a gentleman from NASA; I'll get back to this in > a minute. Anyway ...., NASA's programs are open sourced now. One > program/suite that would probably work better on either the Power(PC) > or SPARC architecture is S4P. > > After talking with the person in question, I learned about NASA's > internship program. > I'm just curious as to whether or not there is a need/want/desire for > having FreeBSD systems in such an area. > > Way of topic: Does anyone think that combining the SPARC and POWER > architectures into a single cpu would be beneficial? If you have access to the Linux/ppc source, porting to FreeBSD shouldn't be too difficult, but likely non-trivial. Which version do you have access to? I believe the latest one available is for 1.5, but the latest Java for x86 is 6 or 7. I had started on trying to get vmkit building, but put that on hold after just getting gcj building (recall my post a few months ago regarding that). - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 07:14:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370AA106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053CD8FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcxa7 with SMTP id xa7so1207879pbc.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.226.166 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.226.166; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.226.166 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.226.166]) by 10.68.226.166 with SMTP id rt6mr707361pbc.23.1329981284767 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:14:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EtECfBNB5MRb49DepFyvWzb1QhSY4l4Yj7KDoXdwI7A=; b=IwvHoFBhkm+G+QKn1OikeGBm+B4XPdk0HdUnYa8Kx5GFLXEGGzQGtdVVYVg+FeMhqm jfvRfZ/sV53N/SIUNpjy9o2lKqQqs6WuOXh1pWwYqfZhXdGplReNgWwUIySGDPM4YG9t aggtD+HdC6XfaQEefHYIBfP4YUJaiOjNOWEnM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.226.166 with SMTP id rt6mr576603pbc.23.1329981284621; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:14:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120222215546.26d79836@narn.knownspace> References: <20120222215546.26d79836@narn.knownspace> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: Justin Hibbits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Suggestions for porting software and other items X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:14:45 -0000 JRE and SDK are at version 7 for PPC linux On 2/22/12, Justin Hibbits wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:26 -0500 > Super Bisquit wrote: > >> How difficult would it be for me to port JAVA to FreeBSD on the >> Power(PC) platform? >> I don't know code but I can use another port as a a template. I've >> just joined the IBM POWER community and have access to the Linux >> version of JAVA. >> >> Second. I recently met a gentleman from NASA; I'll get back to this in >> a minute. Anyway ...., NASA's programs are open sourced now. One >> program/suite that would probably work better on either the Power(PC) >> or SPARC architecture is S4P. >> >> After talking with the person in question, I learned about NASA's >> internship program. >> I'm just curious as to whether or not there is a need/want/desire for >> having FreeBSD systems in such an area. >> >> Way of topic: Does anyone think that combining the SPARC and POWER >> architectures into a single cpu would be beneficial? > > If you have access to the Linux/ppc source, porting to FreeBSD > shouldn't be too difficult, but likely non-trivial. Which version do > you have access to? I believe the latest one available is for 1.5, but > the latest Java for x86 is 6 or 7. I had started on trying to get > vmkit building, but put that on hold after just getting gcj building > (recall my post a few months ago regarding that). > > - Justin > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 19:24:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49F7106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7146A8FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so1769891dae.13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.132.229 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.132.229; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.132.229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.132.229]) by 10.68.132.229 with SMTP id ox5mr7894551pbb.65.1330025089009 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:24:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YdOQkjAaJ3tkRJcIUsZDLxYBVf4854i3c0UMJOrIkYg=; b=jcS0r1Kkdx6hvJa2xMVcpRI3gBylULIcroIAq1g1PgAx9qqX2QoER/5g8P17kNPhwu X9+EtXJFjY4RNsiMOrNkqSPwMdjByi6lqhFDtjsmGwhuRJUTxRlD/fMI/p93kECDK0Ue zmWetqD7ATy3CQ+9pEnuzmtnb9VXxaqdMFomc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.132.229 with SMTP id ox5mr6459843pbb.65.1330025088865; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120222215546.26d79836@narn.knownspace> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Suggestions for porting software and other items X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:49 -0000 If you say so, I'll ask someone at both the Oracle/JAVA and IBM/POWERLinux forums about acquiring the source package. It may be worthwhile if a few members of the FReeBSD community- those with commit priviledges, et al- would also join both forums. On 2/23/12, Super Bisquit wrote: > JRE and SDK are at version 7 for PPC linux > > On 2/22/12, Justin Hibbits wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:26 -0500 >> Super Bisquit wrote: >> >>> How difficult would it be for me to port JAVA to FreeBSD on the >>> Power(PC) platform? >>> I don't know code but I can use another port as a a template. I've >>> just joined the IBM POWER community and have access to the Linux >>> version of JAVA. >>> >>> Second. I recently met a gentleman from NASA; I'll get back to this in >>> a minute. Anyway ...., NASA's programs are open sourced now. One >>> program/suite that would probably work better on either the Power(PC) >>> or SPARC architecture is S4P. >>> >>> After talking with the person in question, I learned about NASA's >>> internship program. >>> I'm just curious as to whether or not there is a need/want/desire for >>> having FreeBSD systems in such an area. >>> >>> Way of topic: Does anyone think that combining the SPARC and POWER >>> architectures into a single cpu would be beneficial? >> >> If you have access to the Linux/ppc source, porting to FreeBSD >> shouldn't be too difficult, but likely non-trivial. Which version do >> you have access to? I believe the latest one available is for 1.5, but >> the latest Java for x86 is 6 or 7. I had started on trying to get >> vmkit building, but put that on hold after just getting gcj building >> (recall my post a few months ago regarding that). >> >> - Justin >> > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 23:52:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E425C106566B for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robballantyne3@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726A98FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq11 with SMTP id dq11so1567446wgb.31 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robballantyne3@gmail.com designates 10.180.100.33 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.100.33; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robballantyne3@gmail.com designates 10.180.100.33 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=robballantyne3@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=robballantyne3@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.100.33]) by 10.180.100.33 with SMTP id ev1mr1356231wib.3.1330041147531 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zIiWS6tXYAHB52LyeurrNw3WRbqHHNGE5hqaa4BOOuY=; b=OoqR13WefgMBIdO8XHjHP5nqSYYiv+QK8OVTDfCztSu+Q+AJeyInBkNGm0s/o5LLzM IhJnLUYJ7LX1G00odX7r42V/G1zj0X+HSBj50FB12ybC05wgWyK0PBwg5CDd/JgmXG0p bO7fKHOqAOZpZDNS55BpG91ys3ytTENtkPUUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.100.33 with SMTP id ev1mr1103405wib.3.1330041147462; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.76.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:52:27 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Ballantyne To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Running CURRENT-10.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:52:29 -0000 I've successfully upgraded my G5 to CURRENT-10.0. make buildworld took just over 3 hours. (If anyone has any comparisons it would nice to know how long those took, my machine is a G5 Quad for comparison). X11 + AfterStep seems to work quite well building some of the ports required took some special measures (that aren't really the kind of thing that can be plugged back to the Port Maintainers but I may go back and sort out a maintanable change -- Anyone have good references on autoconf/automake?) I would be happy to try to do something useful. Is there a pre-existing project list for the PPC port? Cheers! Rob From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 09:55:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9DD106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F48FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcxa7 with SMTP id xa7so2682920pbc.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.74.72 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.74.72; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.74.72 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.74.72]) by 10.68.74.72 with SMTP id r8mr5354008pbv.86.1330077358662 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:55:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Yt0p4LTleyi0U+XJycSXQJH1FPNLiZ42QmeyyRct40Y=; b=ts2Gem19zUxmwD1Sxue/j+k6pUhihO4VEIh02nY/p86pYCOODAD17zvUg+DS3LPY8t XGR744pK+h/aXU0X+WoFAxdDdxSCeVSO4Pu/STjvvLrvalQz5yWJR2m4F66U56frTKem OnA+HN2pw80AaF15OUNOdFVMvfPwwejuGLId8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.74.72 with SMTP id r8mr4465664pbv.86.1330077358422; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:55:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120222215546.26d79836@narn.knownspace> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Suggestions for porting software and other items X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:55:59 -0000 okay, this: ;; *freebsd*) cpuName=`uname -p 2> /dev/null from ibm-java-jre-7.0-0.0-ppc-archive.bin which basically states that FreeBSD support is already there. Who and how do I ask to let FreeBSD have a download? On 2/23/12, Super Bisquit wrote: > If you say so, I'll ask someone at both the Oracle/JAVA and > IBM/POWERLinux forums about acquiring the source package. It may be > worthwhile if a few members of the FReeBSD community- those with > commit priviledges, et al- would also join both forums. > On 2/23/12, Super Bisquit wrote: >> JRE and SDK are at version 7 for PPC linux >> >> On 2/22/12, Justin Hibbits wrote: >>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:26 -0500 >>> Super Bisquit wrote: >>> >>>> How difficult would it be for me to port JAVA to FreeBSD on the >>>> Power(PC) platform? >>>> I don't know code but I can use another port as a a template. I've >>>> just joined the IBM POWER community and have access to the Linux >>>> version of JAVA. >>>> >>>> Second. I recently met a gentleman from NASA; I'll get back to this in >>>> a minute. Anyway ...., NASA's programs are open sourced now. One >>>> program/suite that would probably work better on either the Power(PC) >>>> or SPARC architecture is S4P. >>>> >>>> After talking with the person in question, I learned about NASA's >>>> internship program. >>>> I'm just curious as to whether or not there is a need/want/desire for >>>> having FreeBSD systems in such an area. >>>> >>>> Way of topic: Does anyone think that combining the SPARC and POWER >>>> architectures into a single cpu would be beneficial? >>> >>> If you have access to the Linux/ppc source, porting to FreeBSD >>> shouldn't be too difficult, but likely non-trivial. Which version do >>> you have access to? I believe the latest one available is for 1.5, but >>> the latest Java for x86 is 6 or 7. I had started on trying to get >>> vmkit building, but put that on hold after just getting gcj building >>> (recall my post a few months ago regarding that). >>> >>> - Justin >>> >> > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 10:41:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D473C1065673; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2878FC12; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcxa7 with SMTP id xa7so2726239pbc.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:41:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Qkia1GfB+G10BbZRE9OrlU3HKP1HhkhPk7Bf0GJOndI=; b=b931AI4nmZ04j/rhlEkVbKzsURx1CVJA/mILdc2PL7HaV7LylULnNqb4tBxNNTj0/j 6cPLctH8W8mP0ruKK0seSnftteBVw8cF7bZodb1luRdRIOkbHol8D4nSqNUmHVvdDQfs aX+x64cNNyOkMenuNVhq0FRhQg8USw1HuuEgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.130.199 with SMTP id og7mr4936876pbb.44.1330080096113; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:41:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120222215546.26d79836@narn.knownspace> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: Suggestions for porting software and other items X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:41:37 -0000 I've just openly asked if I could host a download on my repository- not those exact words but the same general content. The reason for this is that systems such as the PS3 and the Wii- I've almost got it setup. And sorry, Justin, about the lag in testing the card, It's working now in Linux but I don't have the patch reapplied to test it out on FreeBSD- are limited in memory and can benefit from a Java desktop or interface similar to those of a smart phone. All in all, I feel stupid. Aside: Thanks for putting up with me and helping me to learn about FreeBSD, RISC, and all that hacking phracking stuff. On 2/24/12, Super Bisquit wrote: > okay, this: ;; > *freebsd*) > cpuName=`uname -p 2> /dev/null from ibm-java-jre-7.0-0.0-ppc-archive.bin > which basically states that FreeBSD support is already there. Who and > how do I ask to let FreeBSD have a download? > > On 2/23/12, Super Bisquit wrote: >> If you say so, I'll ask someone at both the Oracle/JAVA and >> IBM/POWERLinux forums about acquiring the source package. It may be >> worthwhile if a few members of the FReeBSD community- those with >> commit priviledges, et al- would also join both forums. >> On 2/23/12, Super Bisquit wrote: >>> JRE and SDK are at version 7 for PPC linux >>> >>> On 2/22/12, Justin Hibbits wrote: >>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:26 -0500 >>>> Super Bisquit wrote: >>>> >>>>> How difficult would it be for me to port JAVA to FreeBSD on the >>>>> Power(PC) platform? >>>>> I don't know code but I can use another port as a a template. I've >>>>> just joined the IBM POWER community and have access to the Linux >>>>> version of JAVA. >>>>> >>>>> Second. I recently met a gentleman from NASA; I'll get back to this in >>>>> a minute. Anyway ...., NASA's programs are open sourced now. One >>>>> program/suite that would probably work better on either the Power(PC) >>>>> or SPARC architecture is S4P. >>>>> >>>>> After talking with the person in question, I learned about NASA's >>>>> internship program. >>>>> I'm just curious as to whether or not there is a need/want/desire for >>>>> having FreeBSD systems in such an area. >>>>> >>>>> Way of topic: Does anyone think that combining the SPARC and POWER >>>>> architectures into a single cpu would be beneficial? >>>> >>>> If you have access to the Linux/ppc source, porting to FreeBSD >>>> shouldn't be too difficult, but likely non-trivial. Which version do >>>> you have access to? I believe the latest one available is for 1.5, but >>>> the latest Java for x86 is 6 or 7. I had started on trying to get >>>> vmkit building, but put that on hold after just getting gcj building >>>> (recall my post a few months ago regarding that). >>>> >>>> - Justin >>>> >>> >> > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 18:29:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85843106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DD08FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so711107dae.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.216.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.216.42; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.216.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.216.42]) by 10.68.216.42 with SMTP id on10mr3224213pbc.2.1330108179947 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:29:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uTwrWVCfpHVDUA8fTQEZvW5lG8tLlSOygPMFpG+x4ic=; b=kO8L0A+R4cp8bkfG3wLk4qSPZZySc0TtDeo/YkBhpFT0KK22YBBYXUrNbOmPC0s/Fv Zp7Q63TaQkr1b1aCr6YCvrppPpkSL86JJsanm0ywglTjfwUIuRVr7KTRWSjZinCA8RmI zVnoCwuRnU/5fiRnxEeKv1Y9GpQmuBUncfkvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.216.42 with SMTP id on10mr2573319pbc.2.1330108179853; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:29:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120221151910.d8f56d3c.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Question on community support X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:29:40 -0000 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/fe313521-2e95-46f2-817d-44a4f27eba32/entry/do_you_use_java_741?lang=en#action=addcomment They'll need to adjust the install script to default to /usr/local. On 2/21/12, Super Bisquit wrote: > Or others, like this: > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/fe313521-2e95-46f2-817d-44a4f27eba32/entry/do_you_use_java_741?lang=en > in which FreeBSD would have a direct hand in the development of such > applications. > > On 2/21/12, Super Bisquit wrote: >> It's actually the PowerLinux community. >> It would not hurt for the FreeBSD PowerPC community to take an active >> part in the group. And it would not hurt the PowerLinux group from >> learning from others. >> >> I'm hoping that this idea will not become fodder for the political >> activists of the two communities. >> If it does, please close off this thread. >> >> >> >> On 2/21/12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:41:58 -0500 >>> Super Bisquit wrote: >>> >>>> Are there members here who are part of the IBM POWER group? >>> >>> I hadn't heard of that one. Do you have any links to more information? >>> (Googling only got me less interesting results, the same with >>> DuckDuckGo) >>> >>> That also implies that I'm not a member of said group, not to my >>> knowledge >>> at least. :) >>> -- >>> Torfinn >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 08:25:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D616106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7336A8FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so1306765dae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.226.166 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.226.166; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of superbisquit@gmail.com designates 10.68.226.166 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=superbisquit@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=superbisquit@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.226.166]) by 10.68.226.166 with SMTP id rt6mr17284279pbc.23.1330158336019 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:25:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M+KvEkuv9sex2DcZ1wiTXp+hZi29mcTUwCgvlQhhLj0=; b=sUakuuXVt63FeGqcK7rtQBKl/hQCjdpstPV5PE/RTSS4H5CSCBzESOSOkVR9jfST5R kGSl0BSj1Gr5TQKRa+hxvQsF6SrFvF8VR4ECsTZVNTzIbnoYQNpiOriF2626iBXjVXKm cTbkD6Ro0JPdlIGw42tGHy2FyGecvDIx9x3cs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.226.166 with SMTP id rt6mr14268541pbc.23.1330158335987; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:25:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:25:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Unfortunately, this isn't spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:36 -0000 "Generating INDEX-9 - please wait..."Makefile", line 41: "/sbin/sysctl -n hw.instruction_sse 2> /dev/null" returned non-zero status" Now, all I did was run "make index" and voila... nothing happened. So where did I screw up? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 10:13:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 9B9CC1065678; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:13:45 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Super Bisquit Message-ID: <20120225101345.GA53577@FreeBSD.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Unfortunately, this isn't spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:13:45 -0000 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 03:25:35AM -0500, Super Bisquit wrote: > "Generating INDEX-9 - please wait..."Makefile", line 41: "/sbin/sysctl > -n hw.instruction_sse 2> /dev/null" returned non-zero status" > > Now, all I did was run "make index" and voila... > nothing happened. It's not you, it's bad audio/beast/Makefile. It tries to detect SSE in a wrong way. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 12:01:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC76106567A; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B1E8FC1D; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so1428506dae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:01:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=g5DMMrPm2pIwWRo/CYWJWrGxqWrdN5h90ek9ekj4os8=; b=VkpuBz1FQTQv1zBz2YF+lXxjpa01sVkQYX5A6MEFy09oRuXnQp6WJThDsfXF4RnozK 7jjSCzI457eglcdXX0GlC8K37didH5rjvPsmz4/hjBrLoytOyTyhcTGn7dogH2Uuoy0g 6HTFKWpTGdU7WyKmMSv+qeACOE4obgOy4p+Rs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.195.99 with SMTP id id3mr15204380pbc.149.1330171315939; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:01:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120225101345.GA53577@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120225101345.GA53577@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:01:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: Alexey Dokuchaev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Unfortunately, this isn't spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:01:56 -0000 So. How do I fix it? Also, I've installed wget; but, the error comes up of wget not found. Now, I know the CD drive has gone to pot but, not so for the rest of the computer. The Linux partitioning scheme works fine. And, by the way, has anyone bothered asking the IBM POWER community if FreeBSD PowerPC users could have access to the java 7 sdk and jre downloads without having to become a member? I can't be the only one. I hope. On 2/25/12, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 03:25:35AM -0500, Super Bisquit wrote: >> "Generating INDEX-9 - please wait..."Makefile", line 41: "/sbin/sysctl >> -n hw.instruction_sse 2> /dev/null" returned non-zero status" >> >> Now, all I did was run "make index" and voila... >> nothing happened. > > It's not you, it's bad audio/beast/Makefile. It tries to detect SSE in a > wrong way. > > ./danfe > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 13:12:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 12FCC106566B; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:12:48 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Super Bisquit Message-ID: <20120225131247.GA60384@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120225101345.GA53577@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Unfortunately, this isn't spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:12:48 -0000 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 07:01:55AM -0500, Super Bisquit wrote: > So. How do I fix it? Try to edit that Makefile manually and remove SSE check. Ideally, I think the port should use MACHINE_CPU string for that purpose. > Also, I've installed wget; but, the error comes up of wget not found. Maybe it's not in the PATH, or you forgot to do "rehash" for tcsh? ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 18:16:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FA2106566C; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895598FC15; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by daec6 with SMTP id c6so1645375dae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gwXXKK3qflu2ruNoN48zF27tWTCVnhjkfnTlaLXaOC0=; b=BWC6V3SZeyuPwpeFdUlgTuY68j64XgqTZBW/al+aZlaFBE/PVpYIbL+qUaxVsxVbPg +XkNgzGFC9KRNC6rvhU/r7Idfv2jmCSbRw8A4XlbvwS3yYg37KljWpc7LszmprR5F7nw GGw45yMwCTSppgL1aoMeT9T7G3NkxMrMYOJNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.125.227 with SMTP id mt3mr2435939pbb.44.1330193779071; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.48.35 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120225131247.GA60384@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120225101345.GA53577@FreeBSD.org> <20120225131247.GA60384@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:16:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: Alexey Dokuchaev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Unfortunately, this isn't spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:16:20 -0000 Thanks, man, and I mean it. On 2/25/12, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 07:01:55AM -0500, Super Bisquit wrote: >> So. How do I fix it? > > Try to edit that Makefile manually and remove SSE check. Ideally, I think > the port should use MACHINE_CPU string for that purpose. > >> Also, I've installed wget; but, the error comes up of wget not found. > > Maybe it's not in the PATH, or you forgot to do "rehash" for tcsh? > > ./danfe >