From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 03:53:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9114C1065670 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 543878FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15852 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2012 03:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2012 03:53:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=jx7u9k9QMjdLYCX0LaOv8Il1IwD85NaqAWg99qXjBKE=; b=fSt83HmDD976ErPwy87VIqzkultyJlet1zro/TTAZOeK5Ck5jxKzrUrrlDWqg+tKtvLlOVMp3RzXTFvQ4/jwKkEXxanUDp9zEI7hqCMPAUZmdKzvNOkTu9ZOcAZ8oxNL; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S6ZqY-0000IX-Ad for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:53:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:53:26 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201203101436.29082.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:53:27 -0000 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to > > name a few: Actually, I disagree with this statement. Many of MS Windows' problems are a result of poor management, too. For instance, the policy of hiding (known) grave security issues for years, and of launching smear campaigns against security researchers who get tired of waiting for Microsoft to do anything about such grave vulnerabilities and thus publish information for end users to use in making technology decisions and trying to mitigate their exposure, adds up to a whole lot of problem for MS Windows, too. It's certainly true that a lot of problems are based on poor design, though. > > > > - no clean separation of system and apps > > it is very clearly separated. Perhaps you can explain the pervasive spread of IE's tentacles throughout the system for much of the lifetime of the MS Windows family of operating systems, then. > > > - apps re-write system libs at will > > Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? I'm not aware of any cases where installing or firing up an editor, web server, or mail user agent alters base system libraries. I think you are mistaken. > > > - no lib versioning > > I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I > remember they put a version number into the library name. I read "no lib versioning" as meaning "we don't get the same support for being able to use multiple versions of a library for different purposes," but maybe I'm mistaken. > > > - there is not out of the box user / admin separation > > Another point where FreeBSD is far behind. It is not possible to give > every user on FreeBSD its own account and full administration rights. 1. Plan 9: some kind of next generation rights management and privilege separation 2. FreeBSD: architectural privilege separation between user accounts 3. MS Windows: user-level restrictions on what users can do, trivially bypassed by DRM software and malicious code I think the way you try to paint situations 2 and 3 as being equivalent is grossly off the mark. > > > - no filesystem-based security > > FAT rules! Uh . . . what? > > > - default network protocols are insecure > > Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do > some catching up. I suspect this was a reference to things like SMB/CIFS and other common networking protocols and toolsets on MS Windows systems. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 04:23:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1B6106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D89F8FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q2B4Nn2b021002; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:23:51 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Chad Perrin Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:23:54 -0000 Hi, I think that your irony detectors got damaged while reading my post. I am sorry for this. On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > > > ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to > > > name a few: > > > > - apps re-write system libs at will > > > > Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? > > I'm not aware of any cases where installing or firing up an editor, web > server, or mail user agent alters base system libraries. I think you are > mistaken. > Isn't this a cool feature? > > > > > > - no lib versioning > > > > I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I > > remember they put a version number into the library name. > > I read "no lib versioning" as meaning "we don't get the same support for > being able to use multiple versions of a library for different purposes," > but maybe I'm mistaken. How can you say this? > > > > - no filesystem-based security > > > > FAT rules! > > Uh . . . what? It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > > > - default network protocols are insecure > > > > Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do > > some catching up. > > I suspect this was a reference to things like SMB/CIFS and other common > networking protocols and toolsets on MS Windows systems. Is this all in there by default? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 06:03:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61CE1065673 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661068FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311060344.VXBH18243.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net> for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:03:44 -0500 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.84.176]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id k63g1i0093oG0Ji0263kjR; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:03:44 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4F5C4040.0062,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/t4UxjIX1SdYiKYutzX7isQMa3KTM05CLp7xUS1OBPg= c=1 sm=1 a=zAW-1MJjE8oA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:17 a=I6FhtcCzAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=kLptmrz0y3cIfp_uZWIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2B63e9V036585 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:03:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:03:35 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311000335.07c88bf7@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20120310144328.6d7cd1b0@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:03:50 -0000 On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:01:53 -0600 Mark Felder wrote: > On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any > > attempt to > > connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. > > > > Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I > > have > > to admit, it was rather startling at first. > > > Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, > or are you doing lookups yourself? I run named on my box as a caching name server, using my ISP's name servers with the auto_forward option, with the standard root servers as a fallback. Name resolution appeared to be working normally for everything but FreeBSD during the time this was happening. The first time I saw it, my ISP's name servers redirected me to their own page for failed lookups. I disabled the auto_forward and restarted named. The next time, it was Google Chrome which returned a redirected page. This went on for, like I said, about 45 minutes, then it all went back to normal. First time in the 16 years I've been using FreeBSD that I've ever seen the site become unreachable. Was just curious if anyone else noticed this or had any information as to what happened. No big whoop. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 06:06:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3DB106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E1F8FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo209.cox.net ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311060603.YBOS26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo209.cox.net> for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:06:03 -0500 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.84.176]) by eastrmimpo209.cox.net with bizsmtp id k6621i0093oG0Ji02663Y3; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:06:03 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4F5C40CB.002E,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=bROEq2r9+Eyg9X7I3fQYdQhRp8F2m1l/XupKbT1znJs= c=1 sm=1 a=zAW-1MJjE8oA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:17 a=ZaDg5-L3AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=4KCM8cljc45lCTzlL-oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2B662R7036611 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:06:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:05:57 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311000557.79223981@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4F5BE6B3.9010001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120310144328.6d7cd1b0@cox.net> <4F5BE6B3.9010001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:06:09 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:41:39 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: > > On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > >> Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any > >> attempt to connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname > >> lookups. > >> > >> Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I > >> have to admit, it was rather startling at first. > > > > > > Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS > > servers, or are you doing lookups yourself? > Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site > (not fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark > cloud passed over? ;) Hmm, isn't that strange? Maybe it only affected people along certain routes? I don't know, I really have no idea what caused it. Just thought I'd see if anyone else had noticed it or had any information as to what actually happened during that time. No biggie. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 08:16:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D7B106564A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402128FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2B8Grn3003608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:16:53 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2B8Grn3003608 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1331453814; bh=lB0eGbMaWKJUOIl+i8BFCGe8tK9aobQCAV3CRYMg6Jw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=eP5FX3GKdbnZKWkfDJSuYsWrSSSYpEVkkPIgDEFa5swdkrA7QOU7ePIxkt3in7zD2 bMDnGyYJdDXeu1ZGouy1uFupwJyx5zLBaf0c+qWC74/jHt6DCrPpinIiDa+XSW+nQM bNfiozTyhmxuXZubO7f0lmN6pAinrKKngqrqmbMA= Message-ID: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:16:53 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120310144328.6d7cd1b0@cox.net> <4F5BE6B3.9010001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5BE6B3.9010001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1F30915B59983B77DEA04BB6" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:16:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1F30915B59983B77DEA04BB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/03/2012 23:41, Da Rock wrote: > On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: >> On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >>> Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt= to >>> connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. >>> Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I hav= e >>> to admit, it was rather startling at first. >> Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, >> or are you doing lookups yourself? > Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site (not > fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark cloud > passed over? ;) No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: human error. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1F30915B59983B77DEA04BB6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9cX3UACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzIkQCfa4v0YOpBqN0fjHoVuMzQVF9s rHIAn1r16GfN55rpfBIm0PCPmUszxlLU =IeAe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1F30915B59983B77DEA04BB6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 08:33:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF6D1065673 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout05.t-online.de (mailout05.t-online.de [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76498FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd15.aul.t-online.de (fwd15.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout05.t-online.de with smtp id 1S6dyj-0006ug-3G; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:18:09 +0100 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (SUOj8kZbrhM-SFl+x+Ewk30czPezx4qQZduRCj83MQl8amHgWAVQYfzaGie8jPeZE-@[84.157.112.90]) by fwd15.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1S6dyV-15Tr7o0; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:17:55 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2B8Hr9n015759 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:17:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2B8HrlS015758 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:17:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:17:50 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: SUOj8kZbrhM-SFl+x+Ewk30czPezx4qQZduRCj83MQl8amHgWAVQYfzaGie8jPeZE- X-TOI-MSGID: c26545ff-946a-40d6-b6f7-1ae0544bc5b4 Subject: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:33:55 -0000 Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask. I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't install it. $uname -rp |7.4-STABLE amd64 #portmaster -aD |all up to date (had a long run of updating gcc46 and others this |morning) #portmaster /x11-wm/windomaker |[...] |handlers.c:542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'FD_ISSET' |*** Error code 1 |mv -f .deps/findfile.Tpo .deps/findfile.Plo |1 error |*** Error code 1 |1 error |*** Error code 1 |1 error |*** Error code 2 |1 error |*** Error code 1 | |Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker. | |===>>> make failed for x11-wm/windowmaker |===>>> Aborting update | |Terminated | |===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command |line: | portmaster x11-wm/windowmaker I haven't any clue what might go wrong. Searching google didn't bring any help. I can use fluxbox or twm, but I want my WindowMaker back :-( Sabine -- "Wissenschaftlich betrachtet wird das Häuschen kaputt sein." (Th. Waschke in dswc auf die Frage eines wissenschftlich Interessierten, was mit einem Holzhaus, in dem eine Atombombe gezuendet wird, passiere.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 10:29:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975CD106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5502C8FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S6g1p-00059k-2v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:29:29 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:29:29 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:29:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:29:32 -0000 Sabine Baer t-online.de> writes: > > Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask. > > I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not > remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't > install it. > ... Why not try: # pkg_add -r windowmaker You should check any refs to windowmaker in: /usr/ports/UPDATING before compiling its port. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 11:03:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066B11065673 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAA68FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6661663iah.13 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:03:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=J7C34lRNk6KfQZ76eh6Me3nrKb8q1G6rzVkiAG9L+dI=; b=JIAhM4qQHDzBAovJgxE/urYtDGecmbPZCnzd7i68m2Qu6qXHQo9Ws6ofDXYJ0x4rmd d54hveG2D4EclSOwDByppsz2u+tgTpx7ReZl+Gx8LjJnKaymenn8lx+7nF3BJMmMgUSl rpDz77S/x78V1pA4/Jhdz3KpUrXpcdXdbe3/OnKD7exFk0n2RSJCpkdFC2ftRWOABMBD QgFXF+EPoqeGAPEEbNnD7imDLYFkT4dNp0ipAShmZmQY5UH1sYB9MObkRG0PQuYnpff5 85YU0a/iElFcvdIRNc4ECQEWBsTpO1qikhG/W4jcTlmEkv5aUYA/8lYKvVkjUqbIX/Fn np0g== Received: by 10.43.126.68 with SMTP id gv4mr10970351icc.30.1331463797972; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mi10sm8664878igc.8.2012.03.11.04.03.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:03:09 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; i386; ; ) References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:03:19 -0000 On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: > No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the > newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the > bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix > (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of > hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security > to boot. > IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, Mac... They never tried to be better... 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm18355456anb.22.2012.03.11.04.12.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V5KRN5V4xz2CG4t for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:12:16 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120311071216.0cee5934@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlCnYcKvo34AuajWld8QFCwV7XsQsdYdfb5uT2LSQ5ylxxdUeqATeQcxt0IYLyUZCHtGHIo Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:12:20 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700 Erich Dollansky articulated: > > > FAT rules! > > > > Uh . . . what? > > It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any operating system. However, the "exFAT" system is becoming more prevalent due to its more versatile design. To use a camera as an example, any manufacturer that would use a file system that was not compatible with MS Windows would be driving the company into bankruptcy. There are dozens of Windows based applications that can handle images stored on various types of cameras At best, there are only a few designed for the non-Windows world, and they work like crap, if you can get one to work at all. They are all feature poor, again assuming you can get one to actually work without having an engineering degree. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 11:16:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15345106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2268FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBE968.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.233.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q2BBGtla029916; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:16:55 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2BBGhV7015786; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2BBGPF7053754; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthew Seaman From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:16:53 GMT." <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:16:58 -0000 > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: > human error. Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 13:54:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C7B106566C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5531E8FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2012 09:53:20 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BJQ04223; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:53:19 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2012 09:53:19 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20316.44623.302344.441229@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:53:19 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:54:29 -0000 Julian H. Stacey writes: > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: > > human error. > > Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) "Hulk _not_ eat sushi near puny human puny machine!" Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 14:39:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63181065670 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AE98FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311143940.ZIOI18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:39:40 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.84.176]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id kEff1i00E3oG0Ji02Efg7M; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:39:40 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4F5CB92C.0040,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JAjkWMCoDZF0WXzySLmL90Kg4Ce3QIIjGOzsRGfHJ3k= c=1 sm=1 a=zAW-1MJjE8oA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:17 a=NRF7K_vUAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=1RmZ8PuMHLpFNnSuLowA:9 a=4WlJUXa_d6Jcg9pP3GgA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=MFc6XYY7ANoA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2BEdbsL083434; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:39:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:39:32 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311093932.378a6c8c@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:39:46 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of > > causes: human error. > > Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) > > Cheers, > Julian Or the first ominous foreshadowing of the apocalyptic event(s) to unfold later this year, come December. :-) I mean, if FreeBSD's DNS can go down, The End must certainly be near. The falcon cannot hear the falconer. Things fall apart. The center cannot hold. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, and so on and so forth. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 14:46:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CF9106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1BA8FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6978252iah.13 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:46:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=MxvECt+fFOnl3Vw3Jgj5YzhB7IYpBoIRPHTHjAqOBdg=; b=dfdecHPwJBrrioTz/5NC9DzZeDrxEWiruQqRZ8ufdBEtaLyYUj/8wn2Y3xMiEJxkCf RvkCfr8FnXlTAnj5kJExUuUUrvhBwkjaOh75d1KxacF8jkoo35hJSFLdbJ7d7weh3QMm jCQXJQLiqLIjoVRqAXv4ZWX5bnSYSrUhXNwZKZXx4xI/pPGWBcHka40mf8USPYsMYjeA dN47BVr5DMidNhDtap1KZkgoMwru60PDaIiUvVhvGUVQBAlQ9Ym9uvLIVt6dEQZDOUev WsbhHz3dY0wjUrIM4CTIM6c8ogFhvog3W5qHQ5Gl7HEXYtBwisxWJ6uUoEKha2O4WFos FBfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.89.233 with SMTP id br9mr14423047igb.48.1331477196610; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:46:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120311071216.0cee5934@scorpio> References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311071216.0cee5934@scorpio> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:46:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EV95JOpkVG24gigxpMFOdl2Vhoo Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnH8Ae0VlpdhhSyjZ9MLvRXxLiueLCHcaaezwDeBMfakoCycGCrkaFzf5WDDSK0w/Bcz904 Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:46:37 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700 > Erich Dollansky articulated: > >> > > FAT rules! >> > >> > Uh . . . what? >> >> It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any > operating system. However, the "exFAT" system is becoming more > prevalent due to its more versatile design. > The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design. It's only because of Microsoft's dominance of the market. They achieved this dominance not by providing good software, but rather by user the drug dealer's / gangster model in which they are very lax about people copying their crappy software, and then pressuring them into paying out with the BSA. Meanwhile, people became dependent (addicted) to their file formats such as xls and doc, in a vicious cycle making Microsoft ever more powerful over people's will. They didn't kill off the competition by providing better products and services, they just bullied their way through by threatening distributors and hardware manufacturers, and later consumers. Today, Microsoft is still doing this by providing "free software" to third world schools and governments, much like Nestle does by providing "free powdered milks and baby formula" in Africa, or like Monsanto does when providing super seeds to struggling farmers. As I heard someone say recently "if Al Capone were alive today he'd run a tech company". -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 14:55:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AE7106564A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr4.networksolutionsemail.com (omr4.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEE78FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr14 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr4.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q2BEtnXP029920 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:49 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr14 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:36259] helo=[192.168.222.24]) by cm-omr14 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 8C/21-25595-4FCBC5F4; 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Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8C.21.25595.4FCBC5F4@cm-omr14> References: <8C.21.25595.4FCBC5F4@cm-omr14> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:04:20 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YJj_fKA6QYoN7BSFdB-G4w5Tpls Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkIPV+9fyGv0XAnEa5TOyX0J6oOLL4iKfb+SMX/xfhzldL1usElnOVdJXe1BdbGpsNh6ltS Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:04:21 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris wrote: > ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil > thing when done by =A0corporate "insert name here". > Ah yes, the ignorance.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:13:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82714106566C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9AD8FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so7014655iah.13 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=t8UDHaR1f85JakVi/HK02HQ/YQfC3kyIDvI0yeR0j3c=; b=dula+oQdQg/STL32GLH9u+p/tdZzwC+eGn/5Uub4MbMxybcE8GH8srNhr/4iKMppNS XuYvop2qYczrhkqREIbmeZIwKq19sAVoKL+33g5EkWS0wtliHXb2CEqlc5rXcfY0ZKQU P30VpLgj3nWyiRccJR5FDn6qUCurJuANJyUwXiAwps5y2fQGDlqh5W/5+Mx9qu/2/Ah3 DOzh8hnhj1O8poa5bRsLHtvkew5C+rHPKJyBG9K/4xpZq+lnDI/9VRvLhWOwliKWH2TY KdMoH5OwYdVDXvAriKe5ZuKE51V3XlGx0yXz17ME+7Kqa0HyOxKVSb2p/FZHeZlAZiBm H9wg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.180.66 with SMTP id bt2mr8976858icb.56.1331478789258; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:13:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8C.21.25595.4FCBC5F4@cm-omr14> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:13:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Mom3_NUjzkYai4rGxJhOdw_CQ8I Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm3qxmkKhIiVuXuLp1GgOvDeO1bFTIEWmU+zr9VZ7cOmJgGWmmhlM3jfMXaBD7Hge6ND2Ir Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:13:10 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris wrote: >> ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil >> thing when done by =A0corporate "insert name here". >> > > Ah yes, the ignorance.... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott And you say there is no relationship: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/microsoft-versus-open-source-in-the-thi= rd-world-20021115/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:17:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B2E1065670 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E728FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311151700.JJM1165.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:17:00 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.84.176]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id kFGz1i00J3oG0Ji02FGzDt; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:17:00 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4F5CC1EC.0044,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4+d3365FwXO39Q6CIaohezzFfUymJ8jBUV6iqnnMg0E= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=cg8R1BusFZzPMmWQU5oA:9 a=8BfTleXGKgjg7HqZ-jQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2BFGxqj006332; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Jennifer Blalock Message-ID: <20120311101654.2feeb23f@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Joseph Campbell on PBS today X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:17:06 -0000 Didn't you mention Joseph Campbell not too long ago, in response to my "Hash Wednesday" mailing, referring to the importance/necessity of rituals? Well, today at noon on Channel 12, they'll be airing a program titled "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers". Three (3) hours long it is! From the description on TV Guide, it sounds like it should be quite interesting. Preceding it there's "Peter, Paul and Mary: 25th Anniversay Concert" (from 1986). They're doing "Puff, The Magic Dragon" as I write this. :-) Loved that song when I was an innocent young little boy. I always associated it with the "Cecil and Beany" cartoon show. :-) Have a pleasant and relaxing Sunday. Conrad -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:20:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E1B1065673 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr3.networksolutionsemail.com (omr3.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EB48FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr8 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr3.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q2BFK3AQ015714 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:20:03 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr8 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:21388] helo=[192.168.222.24]) by cm-omr8 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 9A/78-24163-2A2CC5F4; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:20:03 -0400 To: "=?utf-8?B?QWxlamFuZHJvIEltYXNz?=" Message-ID: <9A.78.24163.2A2CC5F4@cm-omr8> From: "Chris" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:20:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:20:04 -0000 Li4uIE9uZSB3b3JkIHRoYXQgaXMgcmFtcGFudC4uLiBBbGxpZ2F0aW9ucwoKU2VudCBmcm9tIG15 IEhUQy4KCi0tLS0tIFJlcGx5IG1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KRnJvbTogIkFsZWphbmRybyBJbWFzcyIg PGFpdEBwMmVlLm9yZz4KRGF0ZTogU3VuLCBNYXIgMTEsIDIwMTIgMTA6MDQgYW0KU3ViamVjdDog U3VnZ2VzdGlvbgpUbzogIkNocmlzIiA8cmFjZXJ4QG1ha2V3b3JsZC5jb20+CkNjOiAiRnJlZUJT RCIgPGZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnPgoKCk9uIFN1biwgTWFyIDExLCAyMDEy IGF0IDEwOjU1IEFNLCBDaHJpcyA8cmFjZXJ4QG1ha2V3b3JsZC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgo+IC4uLiBB aCB5ZXMsIHRyeWluZyB0byBmZWVkIHRoZSB3b3JsZCB3aGVyZSBodW5nZXIgaXMgcmFtcGFudCBp cyBhbiBldmlsCj4gdGhpbmcgd2hlbiBkb25lIGJ5IMKgY29ycG9yYXRlICJpbnNlcnQgbmFtZSBo ZXJlIi4KPgoKQWggeWVzLCB0aGUgaWdub3JhbmNlLi4uLgoKaHR0cDovL2VuLndpa2lwZWRpYS5v cmcvd2lraS9OZXN0bCVDMyVBOV9ib3ljb3R0Cl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCmZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIG1haWxpbmcg bGlzdApodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9mcmVlYnNkLXF1 ZXN0aW9ucwpUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSwgc2VuZCBhbnkgbWFpbCB0byAiZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlv bnMtdW5zdWJzY3JpYmVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmciCgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:37:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D85C106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031958FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so2208797ghr.13 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=BMBdPKPlHYAJokthOFc0LEZl272NXpajUF13BSOcLjw=; b=o2PU1QGjycx1ozPDlQehh2XxXogO4H2NP879m7mFDl4OOpYrxakcYDekEz/L55ujN+ p7/0CaCcE3ntFM+RMjun6yQi7hKq0zeTV8AhVr1huRp4Dv/DTd7My9q2xLC2N2EqmVgo 0LHP6j3/jBifgTh+7KY2rROzcpa7Sj5H9Rt0D7esRPYYgzQIeha821FUTrMQe17O6egf mCeaMNMQuQxfTtq3AGGU/Baq4O6BWk5HA6hxuu1qfpkl/iatIvZrWcl+PQ/ffpABK6DY K1ayRNZp9o5pycCcdKMR1vs2fQNHpuFQtrfG7aSvj4mJkiZcHSUBKvLEsz6QjHRRnT11 Wjdw== Received: by 10.236.102.230 with SMTP id d66mr10168864yhg.72.1331480219335; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm31330014yhk.0.2012.03.11.08.36.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V5RJm6ZWvz2CG4t for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:56 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120311113656.5751fa9f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <8C.21.25595.4FCBC5F4@cm-omr14> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlmPr2KgLaXcn8dLh+AW2Yj7+0rn0eKPDGrz+b6OoUBWcez1yo7nx1idvUHi6tsBZ2/pekB Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:00 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:13:09 -0400 Alejandro Imass articulated: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alejandro Imass > wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris > > wrote: > >> ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an > >> evil thing when done by  corporate "insert name here". > >> > > > > Ah yes, the ignorance.... > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott > > And you say there is no relationship: > > http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/microsoft-versus-open-source-in-the-third-world-20021115/ Seriously, did anyone bother to look at the dates of those articles? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it. Edward A. 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Sabatier articulated: {snip} WTF -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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Sabatier articulated: > > {snip} > > WTF With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I woke up this morning thinking it may be April 1st :) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:54:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4DB106564A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F548FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2BGffkn064362; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:41:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3909012346; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:41:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:41:41 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311164141.GA17890@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Sabine Baer Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:54:38 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:17:50AM +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask. Posting this to questions is fine, IMO. freebsd-ports would also be appropriate. > I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not > remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't > install it. >=20 > $uname -rp > |7.4-STABLE amd64 It compiles fine here (9.0-RELEASE amd64).=20 > #portmaster /x11-wm/windomaker > |[...] > |handlers.c:542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'FD_ISSET' > |*** Error code 1 FD_ISSET is a macro in /usr/include/sys/select.h, at least on 9.0. Check if that file exists and is readable. Check if the file config.h[1] in the windowmaker source tree (generated by configure) contains the line '#define HAVE_SELECT 1'. [1: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/config.h] If this is not defined, and the file exists, it is a bug in the configure script. As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around the '# include ' line in the file handlers.c[2], then re-start the compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's directory). Don't re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo your changes. If the bui= ld goes OK, issue the command 'make install clean' from the port's directory. [2: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c] Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk9c1cUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXubACfS21zlZnP59fjh5EoVm0RnbsZ /bsAnRHPqViBj838A02NpX4rgVs4b4xy =ajxe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:03:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990741065670 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215028FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF23D.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.242.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q2BH3KUl031933 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:03:21 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2BH38eJ017472 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:03:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2BH32Nk036732 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:03:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201203111703.q2BH32Nk036732@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:18:21 -0400." <4F5CD04D.4090202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:03:02 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:03:28 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500 > > Conrad J. Sabatier articulated: > > > > {snip} > > > > WTF > > With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I woke up > this morning thinking it may be April 1st :) Yes. To restore signal to noise ratio, would be good if some people on questions@ also subscribed & posted certain threads to freebsd-advocacy@ freebsd-chat@ http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:17:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448F4106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout02.t-online.de (mailout02.t-online.de [194.25.134.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B7C8FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd22.aul.t-online.de (fwd22.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout02.t-online.de with smtp id 1S6m9c-0006H6-SQ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:01:57 +0100 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (GvvWX4ZLZhufkIKHgXW5RgNnCN6MoiO2UW9jicF4UUFckbCvlXPuqEF8wl-okK1QlY@[91.6.214.63]) by fwd22.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1S6m9b-1DOyTQ0; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:01:55 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2BH1qbo043643 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:01:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2BH1q4w043642 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:01:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:01:50 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311170150.GS9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311164141.GA17890@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120311164141.GA17890@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: GvvWX4ZLZhufkIKHgXW5RgNnCN6MoiO2UW9jicF4UUFckbCvlXPuqEF8wl-okK1QlY X-TOI-MSGID: 35b09144-e8d0-46b2-ac1d-9db9898915bb Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:17:45 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:41:41PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: [...] > FD_ISSET is a macro in /usr/include/sys/select.h, at least on 9.0. Check if > that file exists and is readable. > > Check if the file config.h[1] in the windowmaker source tree (generated by > configure) contains the line '#define HAVE_SELECT 1'. > [1: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/config.h] > If this is not defined, and the file exists, it is a bug in the configure > script. > > As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around the '# > include ' line in the file handlers.c[2], then re-start the > compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's directory). Don't > re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo your changes. If the build > goes OK, issue the command 'make install clean' from the port's directory. > [2: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c] Thanks a lot, I'll have a try. Sabine -- Good public health practice requires day-to-day vigilance, constant and elevated funding, not a disease-of-the-week approach. (N.N.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:21:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D4D106564A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout09.t-online.de (mailout09.t-online.de [194.25.134.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476358FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd19.aul.t-online.de (fwd19.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1S6mDZ-0007L2-D5; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:01 +0100 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (rAOQR-ZfghhoKh8p7RRowbB9Mcu3lmKqBs0U7JiQERRxAUjNVM46igtmElTHbXagqi@[91.6.214.63]) by fwd19.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1S6mDS-0VPQMS0; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:05:54 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2BH5pij043660 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:05:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2BH5o4S043659 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:05:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:05:48 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: rAOQR-ZfghhoKh8p7RRowbB9Mcu3lmKqBs0U7JiQERRxAUjNVM46igtmElTHbXagqi X-TOI-MSGID: b7586f3f-32ce-4581-be3e-6140a5c243de Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:21:19 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:29:18AM +0000, jb wrote: [...] > Why not try: > # pkg_add -r windowmaker I never used this method, I prefer compiling (don't know why, it's only feeling). > You should check any refs to windowmaker in: > /usr/ports/UPDATING > before compiling its port. I have done that but couldn't find anything relative. Thanks for answering anyway. Sabine -- In a world without fences and walls, who needs windows and gates? (N.N.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:27:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D34D106566C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4632E8FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S6mYG-0007Vu-Qe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:25 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:24 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:27:28 -0000 Sabine Baer t-online.de> writes: > ... After your ports updates, do not forget to test integrity of ports: # portmaster --check-depends # portmaster --check-port-dbdir and retry the compilation again. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:49:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA061106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A908FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E74382A9; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:42:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2BHgsud001950; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:42:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:42:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20120311184254.d1f46f47.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:49:32 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > FAT rules! > > > > Uh . . . what? > > It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... Sorry, you must be wrong. I tried to FORMAT.EXE my toaster but it didn't work. It turned into a bread slicer instead. Maybe the toaster is too old and requires paper tape... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:53:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6855106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591748FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lboi15 with SMTP id i15so991262lbo.13 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XLGx/5HsEkIGHEok9snQfHMfEuIs2p/ZkzlptjkFl8c=; b=tFZGPI7Fz6/hS6zl/tYLVXJcvoIwo8nBXim1VzDPMCUOl1M0LSCOS7Qa0ehoBIvIgp ZTLpQrscf7JZsRAHtqbdKa62lc9AD2/+kfvSksdPJxxQWEIy/KsIXwKzNUvyQnN87ni2 ups7fz4wxTU/nNlo2r875zKssLCRff+8OFw1ZdKCCEJ/hcxk1d08LCTo+pijvUF9kOWq g/oLAje3Lr3opHQZ4doSq/vAxw2iirB2XAS9ov1BK99mCJ0NIPxoIuPqPa99Xct/pQDw CgRfZNOsYGDusHyBLNk+hN+8tFG47Ih3ZEGfx8JtEidL4VLrd1XNcyl3IA2QuGzvDFZZ CL/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.105.39 with SMTP id gj7mr3651593lbb.23.1331488409996; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.13.72 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:53:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: hack.So: could not read symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:53:31 -0000 I'm using 9.0-RELEASE. I downloaded the snapshot "9.0-CURRENT-201012" and tried to build it's kernel but I get this error: hack.So: could not read symbols: File in wrong format file reports this: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, not stripped I compared this file with the same file generated during the compilation of the 9.0-RELEASE GENERIC kernel and they are identical. What's the problem here? Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:20:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D021065670 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loyik2008@mail.ru) Received: from fallback3.mail.ru (fallback3.mail.ru [94.100.176.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A66B8FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f266.mail.ru (f266.mail.ru [217.69.128.187]) by fallback3.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 4D2F6A1A7768 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:23 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Reply-To:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; b=h/YOrz1ktnN7jV8VrJoLTyTq22GzJn7cJsQXBy8r1CyMraBjUSDi/16njOgxgfAWIFmYqQwmLe3oLlx1d6K3KQKOeebQtaGOWr92pL+2bldZ8QWWHLx3BsZQ83Kn1Ivf; Received: from mail by f266.mail.ru with local (envelope-from ) id 1S6lVH-0004Py-Tt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:15 +0400 Received: from [195.214.196.94] by e.mail.ru with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:15 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JvRjNC+0YjQsCDQm9C+0ZfQug==?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [195.214.196.94] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:15 +0400 X-Priority: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:00:50 +0000 Subject: Mounting a samba share on boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?UTF-8?B?0JvRjNC+0YjQsCDQm9C+0ZfQug==?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:20:49 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:12:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2859106564A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBED8FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311181215.FTIX1165.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net> for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:12:15 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.84.176]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id kJCE1i00B3oG0Ji02JCEZq; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:12:15 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.4F5CEAFF.0024,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4+d3365FwXO39Q6CIaohezzFfUymJ8jBUV6iqnnMg0E= c=1 sm=1 a=hsFwf-4JDDoA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:17 a=NRF7K_vUAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=yGkv1cpAHT9fQ1KCk2wA:9 a=iJaCSnACJUiM6yErdukA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MFc6XYY7ANoA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=iKWj-R5MvzzJW67f:21 a=4dD1TZB8dQoDb2GK:21 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2BICEj5005076 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:12:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:12:09 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120311131209.51fbccf8@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <201203111703.q2BH32Nk036732@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <4F5CD04D.4090202@gmail.com> <201203111703.q2BH32Nk036732@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:12:26 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:03:02 +0100 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Steve Bertrand wrote: > > On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500 > > > Conrad J. Sabatier articulated: > > > > > > {snip} > > > > > > WTF > > > > With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I > > woke up this morning thinking it may be April 1st :) > > Yes. To restore signal to noise ratio, would be good if some people > on questions@ also subscribed & posted certain threads to > freebsd-advocacy@ > freebsd-chat@ > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > Cheers, > Julian Sorry 'bout that, folks. I was reading my freebsd-questions folder at the time, for which I have an auto "To:" address setup, and wanted to mail a friend of mine to tell her about this TV program, but forgot I was in the folder and needed to remove the auto address. Gotta watch out more carefully for that sort of thing. This is not the first time I've done this. Very embarrassing, to say the least. I need to sleep, I think. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:27:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B962A106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B518FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2012 14:27:11 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BJQ21778; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:27:11 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2012 14:27:11 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20316.61054.641283.768702@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:27:10 -0400 To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311071216.0cee5934@scorpio> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:14 -0000 Alejandro Imass writes: > >> > > FAT rules! > >> > > >> > Uh . . . what? > >> > >> It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design. I can think of two: Its properties are well understood. There are a multitude of drivers, at least some well-coded. Many are even open source. :-) And for one of its tasks - as a format for media to be read by multiple devices, presumably under the control of/with the permission of a single person - what exactly is the better alternative? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:27:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2759A106566C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8278FC17 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098E12A857; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2BILJWh002158; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:21:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:21:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?B?0JvRjNC+0YjQsCDQm9C+0ZfQug==?= Message-Id: <20120311192119.78f2763b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a samba share on boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:27:15 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:15 +0400, Льоша Лоїк wrote: { nothing } Even though you wrote nothing, I assume that the subject "Mounting a samba share on boot?" contains your question. Answer: You can put the required line in /etc/fstab, and provide access details (workgroup, user, password and such stuff) in /etc/nsmb.conf. See the manpages for fstab, nsmb.conf and mount_smbfs for details. If you encounter problems with networking _not_ being up when the mount is performed, see the "late" option described in "man mount". This option is often used for network-mounted file systems. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:36:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8B2106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EAA8FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311183633.PFJR7477.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110.cox.net>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:36:33 -0400 Received: from dell64 ([72.220.91.219]) by fed1rmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id kJcZ1i00F4jy6EY03JcZdT; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:36:33 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4F5CF0B1.0063,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=frM3ubQMsGNQr4xvsYRL0w/vXhCHzSHejYyZ59KnNZI= c=1 sm=1 a=zAW-1MJjE8oA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=olICo1sKaMXbpqbYUd6B5g==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=NRF7K_vUAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=FhxablB1jQkC1FGNiNIA:9 a=Vn391KkO6XhXaZDRQQoA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=MFc6XYY7ANoA:10 a=olICo1sKaMXbpqbYUd6B5g==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700 From: Robert To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Message-ID: <20120311113628.44ed4cad@dell64> In-Reply-To: <20120311093932.378a6c8c@cox.net> References: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120311093932.378a6c8c@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:36:34 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:39:32 -0500 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > > > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of > > > causes: human error. > > > > Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Julian > > Or the first ominous foreshadowing of the apocalyptic event(s) to > unfold later this year, come December. :-) > > I mean, if FreeBSD's DNS can go down, The End must certainly be near. > The falcon cannot hear the falconer. Things fall apart. The center > cannot hold. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, and so on and so > forth. > Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:44:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90896106566B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEB78FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F244BE81152; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:38:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Message-ID: <20120311183838.GA10887@thought.org> References: <20120311101654.2feeb23f@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120311101654.2feeb23f@cox.net> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Jennifer Blalock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:44:25 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500 > From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" > Subject: Joseph Campbell on PBS today > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jennifer Blalock > Cc: > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) > > Didn't you mention Joseph Campbell not too long ago, in response to my > "Hash Wednesday" mailing, referring to the importance/necessity of > rituals? > > Well, today at noon on Channel 12, they'll be airing a program titled > "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers". Three (3) > hours long it is! From the description on TV Guide, it sounds like > it should be quite interesting. > [ .....] Thanks for this. i have all of prof campbell's first [13 hour] series in DVD in my bookcase; i've got the stuff with moyers on audio. i =did= pay for the original series. be nice if there were a way of capturing the moyers interview ...altho i've seen it at least twice; the tapes are worn out! gary ps: for general interest: check out KBTC-TV, at 14:00 PDT. [UCT-7] > > Conrad > > -- > Conrad J. Sabatier > conrads@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:40:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4821065672 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C243F8FC25 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120311194007.IODJ18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:40:07 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.84.176]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id kKg61i00j3oG0Ji02Kg7g9; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:40:07 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4F5CFF97.0062,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JAjkWMCoDZF0WXzySLmL90Kg4Ce3QIIjGOzsRGfHJ3k= c=1 sm=1 a=zAW-1MJjE8oA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=v1OxHfSBExKxUET0StoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=qwmwShWo9LG1Fa0ONy89vg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2BJe6iC054610; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:40:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:40:01 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Robert Message-ID: <20120311144001.10e9c7b3@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120311113628.44ed4cad@dell64> References: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120311093932.378a6c8c@cox.net> <20120311113628.44ed4cad@dell64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:40:19 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700 Robert wrote: > > Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does. Are you sure it wasn't the "evildoers"? You know, the "terrists"? Maybe laying the groundwork for a "nucular" strike? -- Conrad J. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o1sm18597614yhm.21.2012.03.11.12.41.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V5Xkv0Mv1z2CG4t for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:41:26 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120311154126.25d17398@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120311113628.44ed4cad@dell64> References: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201203111116.q2BBGPF7053754@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120311093932.378a6c8c@cox.net> <20120311113628.44ed4cad@dell64> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmIx/Sc59LdnyImpPWpRjtX/hLtk97zNwyIhWzPSCWPPkIUF0KTSukRMLsAOL/rMN5dEYM8 Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:41:30 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700 Robert articulated: > Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does. Unless you are a right wing fascist; i.e. Limbaugh or Hannity, then you blame Obama or Clinton. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ No matter what problem you have with your computer - Its Always Microsoft's fault Corollary: If its not their fault - Blame them anyway :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:15:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FF31065678 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C5D8FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC2B1703E; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:05:58 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4F5D05A5.1000104@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:05:57 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <20120310144328.6d7cd1b0@cox.net> <4F5BE6B3.9010001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F5C5F75.1070600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:15:12 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 10/03/2012 23:41, Da Rock wrote: >> On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: >>> On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >>>> Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to >>>> connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. > >>>> Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I have >>>> to admit, it was rather startling at first. > >>> Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, >>> or are you doing lookups yourself? > >> Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site (not >> fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark cloud >> passed over? ;) > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: > human error. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > **** Aloha, Ah, To Bad Matthew, I was going to ask if it was the pesky Solar flares. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:28:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A19F106566C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8E98FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 099D8E81152; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:28:21 -0000 guys, i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? gray -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. 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[98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wp4sm6066372igc.3.2012.03.11.13.52.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5D1094.2080504@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:52:36 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:52:42 -0000 On 3/11/2012 3:28 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > guys, > > i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e > excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. > > here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or > radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? > > gray > > > For capturing, I believe linux is your best bet. I had tried using the bktr driver, but I couldn't get it to work properly with the card I had. It could work somewhat from what I remember. The card was my brother's and he used it under linux, but he upgraded to a better one. Legality should be the same as a VCR/DVR, personal use only and don't redistribute. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:55:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB4106564A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA628FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38C717062; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:21 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4F5D1139.908@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:21 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:55:23 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > guys, > > i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e > excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. > > here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or > radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? > > gray > > > Aloha, Most Public Radio stations have the programs in podcast form from their websites. I have had TV stations send me dvd's of broadcasts that my Wife has been on here in Hawaii. I think asking the media will get you results. Many of us on the FreeBSD questions list seem to have writing backgrounds and are interested in Joseph Campbell and his developments in writing and storytelling audio and video process. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:20:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D94E106566C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072A48FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECCD18CEE; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:19:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2BLJxG5003439; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:19:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:19:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:20:01 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or > radio stream for later replay? I've been using a BrookTree ("Haupauge WinTV") PCI card for capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard programs mplayer and mencoder. For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also for radio programs? Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media streams. There are tools for that available. > or is that illegal, too? Yes, it is. It's also illegal to listen to MP3 in the US. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 23:38:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5A71065672 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69F08FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81E65C28 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:52:05 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3F965C22 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:52:04 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:33:19 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:38:41 -0000 On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: > On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: > >> No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the >> newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the >> bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix >> (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of >> hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security >> to boot. >> > IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, > Mac... They never tried to be better... Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up their work once ported, and then said "we can do a lot better now" and Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, file based devices, etc). So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 23:51:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512B21065672 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2F48FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554AE5C28 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:05:14 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88AF25C22 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:05:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:46:28 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:51:44 -0000 On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >> here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or >> radio stream for later replay? > I've been using a BrookTree ("Haupauge WinTV") PCI card for > capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard > programs mplayer and mencoder. > > For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like > the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this > works also for radio programs? > > Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind > of media streams. There are tools for that available. There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another tool to record the stream. And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up someday when I have the spare time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 02:07:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9989B106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D9E8FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q2C26GEB054216; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:06:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F5D59F4.4090608@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:05:40 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311035326.GC23967@hemlock.hydra> <201203111123.54809.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120311184254.d1f46f47.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120311184254.d1f46f47.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:07:32 -0000 2012-03-11 18:42, Polytropon skrev: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>>> FAT rules! >>> >>> Uh . . . what? >> >> It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > Sorry, you must be wrong. I tried to FORMAT.EXE my toaster Perhaps you didn't plug it in right. Sata, FW or usb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 11:32:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1492106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olafiranyekunle@yahoo.com) Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 536D78FC23 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 11:28:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 11:28:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 11:28:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 503459.26509.bm@omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 15209 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2012 11:28:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1331551735; bh=PWjI6I3OHy0XjHaO1RCfjbmQPUqbImindgMnXjLxIMg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hpiZnQyBhJ1KaV4kqqRwh3rhm2vCgQgVCm5Gy7MXjCVjfUG4VjBV6c1hG0wM8KcJjmOAU+9zL1mVlzeqMmaeL+oaXASBasUVVKnUQ9TLXdBoWLe0tFC2qJWGGTFHnIldQiz+OnyF77cxs2kUHlPTJhUrNluBdhGMKccDegHZFOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uKyLKjNFWHbNguaw4W4/2qR824nNIBQrTf+kLxEJ15Lv8HFTeTa4Qno77CsRzpV+d/JLU+uY2uiq8kMCWvVA6uiNUttt0lNcE10tcrP/f0qWmdDyvFlepwGo0ipfD7KPvvOsiJ6hSEUVsW9YIrVl/mzJZjxDEb5V9HkxS1vwYAc=; X-YMail-OSG: br4NOkYVM1kFmV0Zp0gJCqdj6CgcVWa18aRBZTR1iUeejj4 KkpkG5BR1il84XMEIUMHWKXJlm2I4ZRLosEZ0UXZxhJQdHj7HkRX61tB3_jz b8zmxP5sBaOKY8DW6tKuDsa_l2S9beUzcbl8fUfENnnTgRIO4Gtj_R8sCPQu jgly.1c7e25VgeaIh49wweDwgLV6ZbdVemJZR3NNv.jXkJBT2BuhXGXQSZxl Jfzu3PrGvPYhRtQJJRtHJoqN85A51GL28PDVJI2T0CPnf83fPh.npgtLTMgY mVozYDbOfXYKceR8RIuSTjve4Br9pV6NQeQOUZ3ftCncVzP8zesZ_wFl_Gtf 5CnWKBhqe2AqogmR4R4_O2DM9RGdtYpv5SEFqFVFgGJKMQ9XAnanQO0r8g_b onLx05CUxkMvr3sK1NGPM5mywLPViWBM2GNf1ndq4Oy3IOiLwBwwbAsM6eA- - Received: from [141.0.9.81] by web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:28:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 Message-ID: <1331551735.30981.yint-ygo-j2me@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:28:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Olafiranye Olakunle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:48:19 +0000 Subject: Cacti X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:32:17 -0000 What Commands to restart cacti ?please. Kunle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:03:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD84D106566C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594748FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:03:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:53:10 +0100 Message-ID: <4F5DE3A6.3030303@ose.nl> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:53:10 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <1331551735.30981.yint-ygo-j2me@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1331551735.30981.yint-ygo-j2me@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cacti X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:03:18 -0000 On 03/12/2012 12:28 PM, Olafiranye Olakunle wrote: > What Commands to restart cacti ?please. Kunle > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There is no command to restart cacti. Data is gathered by the script poller.php which runs as a cronjob and the interface to cacti graphs is available via apache webserver. Maybe you want to restart apache? apachectl (re)start or /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 (re)start this is for apache 2.2.x Kind regards Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:14:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955E8106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B438FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF23D.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.242.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q2CCEHn8050708; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:18 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2CCE6ir021790; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:14:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2CCDs9v018635; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:14:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201203121214.q2CCDs9v018635@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Olafiranye Olakunle From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:28:55 MST." <1331551735.30981.yint-ygo-j2me@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:13:54 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cacti X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:20 -0000 Olafiranye Olakunle wrote: > > What Commands to restart cacti ?please. Kunle You are too lazy to deserve help from that ! We are not mind readers, so work harder ! State what uname -a reports State what version of cacti you use. State if you read any/which docs. with package FreeBSD supports 23,000+ packages Something called cacti does seem to be there grep -i cacti /usr/ports/INDEX* yet Ive never heard of it, prob many others here too. FreeBSD supports about 80 or so mail lists, http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ Select the list you decide most appropriate (eg freebsd-net@ maybe ? ) Then repost your request for help there, with sufficient info that people can help you. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:26:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E37106564A; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamolpat@dmaccess.net) Received: from irpwifi3.truemail.co.th (irpwifi3.truemail.co.th [203.144.173.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F488FC12; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:26:29 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAIj4XU86CIIh/2dsb2JhbAAMNbhoAQEBAwEnEUABBQsLCQ8JFg8JAwIBAgFFBg0BBwEBiAEQtmuKNYZMBIhShSaXd4JvgVA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,571,1325437200"; d="scan'208";a="486121746" Received: from ppp-58-8-130-33.revip2.asianet.co.th (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([58.8.130.33]) by irp3.truemail.co.th with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2012 20:26:19 +0700 Message-ID: <4F5DF97B.7070306@dmaccess.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:26:19 +0700 From: kamolpat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4F58D68D.2060700@dmaccess.net> <4F58ED8A.7050602@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F58ED8A.7050602@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PCToolsMIME: Updated by PC Tools Mime Parser 1.0.0.4 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: question about SMTP-authentication (2nd ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:26:30 -0000 Dear Matthew, According to your recommendation .... (as following). When I do make at /usr/src/sur.sbin/sendmail it show as following. ns1:kamolpat:/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail>make clean rm -f sm_os.h sendmail alias.o arpadate.o bf.o collect.o conf.o control.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o headers.o macro.o main.o map.o mci.o milter.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.o ratectrl.o readcf.o recipient.o savemail.o sasl.o sfsasl.o shmticklib.o sm_resolve.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o timers.o tls.o trace.o udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o mailq.1.gz newaliases.1.gz aliases.5.gz sendmail.8.gz mailq.1.cat.gz newaliases.1.cat.gz aliases.5.cat.gz sendmail.8.cat.gz ns1:kamolpat:/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail>make ln -sf /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include/sm/os/sm_os_freebsd.h sm_os.h cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c:14: /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:135:25: error: sasl/sasl.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:136:29: error: sasl/saslutil.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c:14: /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:607: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before ':' token /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:691: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'sasl_conn_t' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. ======================================== then I try to find where is sasl.h ns1:kamolpat:/usr>find . -name "sasl.h" ./local/include/sasl/sasl.h ./ports/security/cyrus-sasl2/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25/include/sasl.h ./ports/security/cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25/include/sasl.h What should I do next? Shold I just copy the sasl.h to /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail ? Thanks Kamolpat On 3/9/2012 12:34 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 08/03/2012 15:55, kamolpat wrote: >> Setup Reference >> ============== >> 1. I read the how to setup from FreeBSD Handbook (online)-> Chapter 29 >> Electronic Mail -> 29.10 SMTP Authentication from freebsd.org >> 2. setup for cyrus-sasl2 was fine (setup via >> usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl2) >> 3. setup for openssl was 90% fine (setup via port) reference to FreeBSD >> Handbook (online)->Chapter 15 Security -> 15.8 OpenSSL >> accept the "STARTTLS" line doesn't appear as mention on the last >> part of article. >> > Did you rebuild sendmail with the right flags so that it would enable > all the SASL bits? Apart from that you seem to have done all the right > stuff that I can see. > > You need to add this to /etc/make.conf: > > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 > SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib > SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 > > and then rebuild sendmail -- assuming you have system sources installed: > > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make clean > # make > # make install > > If you haven't got the system sources installed, then you can get them > easily enough with csup(1) or freebsd-update(8) or several other ways. > Or you could just install sendmail from ports -- obviously, make sure to > choose the option to enable SASL in the config dialogue. If you use the > ports sendmail, so long as you set up mailer.conf(5) to point to the > ports version -- like so: > > lucid-nonsense:/etc/mail:% cat mailer.conf > # $FreeBSD: stable/8/etc/mail/mailer.conf 93858 2002-04-05 04:25:14Z > gshapiro $ > # > # Execute the "real" sendmail program, named /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > # > sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > hoststat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > purgestat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > and put the following in /etc/make.conf so it uses the latest > configuration file bits: > > SENDMAIL_CF_DIR= /usr/local/share/sendmail/cf > MAKEMAP= /usr/local/sbin/makemap > > then the ports sendmail is pretty much a drop-in replacement for the > system one, and you can use all the config bits in /etc/mail in exactly > the same way as normal. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.19440 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:52:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9501065674 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAE48FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1S75fN-0004I1-Sk>; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:52:02 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1S75fN-0005JY-Od>; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:52:01 +0100 Message-ID: <4F5DFF7B.1010006@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:51:55 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120311 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAB72F87406F1A555E24FD9FD" X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: Terminal (TERM=xterm) on FreeBSD doesn not accept DEL or ALT key on/in a Linux YAST2 session X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:52:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAB72F87406F1A555E24FD9FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Administering Linux Suse boxes makes it opf need to login onto those boxes and use the well designed kiddy-cloaking scripting environment, called YAST/YAST2. The problem I face now is that I can not use DEL key to delete characters or even use the ALT key to enforce actions like ALT-e or ALT-d for enabling/disabling. I tried to set environment variable "TERM =3D xterm" to "TERM =3D cons25= " since I thought this could be a problem with the terminal. But it wans't. Either the outdated X on FBSD causes problems or there is another issue. I desperately need some help ... Regards and thanks in advance, Oliver --------------enigAB72F87406F1A555E24FD9FD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPXf+BAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8vF0H/2q1XfIHa5tj0jG2/uUoeD9+ FbA7xc0xujIh/VZ31sqZK3Bt51ZnN4sl2L91umomXkTL2cpRFcqy62rVpXWakMdm 7FJ6NQ42L+bqEA/sL2pIM0w/q69vYaHL8P6Nf63ivAi2grvfs1Ll6F4mySmE9fRh 7RCooq2fGmiEBkOSbvVeFfmT/nEqm7VfE2+quo3ijAMwz6lQ/2Mtw3/joYUREJ4P L+cDA7ZNrsZFT9hlcz7g5xYORmr6kwxJtZJF9xBSpvCBafrE4snRio94lh2Ik0M/ DJVuiJmLk6apyyGAgr8Ytu3hDxH6ykT4g4yExbz9yzS6fEEOR/ZZ1LRkxspxSKM= =jN4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAB72F87406F1A555E24FD9FD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:58:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7C01065670 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E578FC19 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2CDvfQP079334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:57:42 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2CDvfQP079334 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q2CDvfQP079334; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F5E00CE.6000600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:57:34 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kamolpat References: <4F58D68D.2060700@dmaccess.net> <4F58ED8A.7050602@FreeBSD.org> <4F5DF97B.7070306@dmaccess.net> In-Reply-To: <4F5DF97B.7070306@dmaccess.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig13AF0685895AB018AE7F6881" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: question about SMTP-authentication (2nd ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:58:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig13AF0685895AB018AE7F6881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/03/2012 13:26, kamolpat wrote: > According to your recommendation .... (as following). When I do make a= t > /usr/src/sur.sbin/sendmail it show as following. > ns1:kamolpat:/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail>make clean > rm -f sm_os.h sendmail alias.o arpadate.o bf.o collect.o conf.o > control.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o > headers.o macro.o main.o map.o mci.o milter.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.= o > ratectrl.o readcf.o recipient.o savemail.o sasl.o sfsasl.o shmticklib.o= > sm_resolve.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o timers.o tls.o trace.= o > udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o mailq.1.gz newaliases.1.gz > aliases.5.gz sendmail.8.gz mailq.1.cat.gz newaliases.1.cat.gz > aliases.5.cat.gz sendmail.8.cat.gz > ns1:kamolpat:/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail>make > ln -sf > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include/sm/os/sm_os_f= reebsd.h > sm_os.h > cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB= > -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS > -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL=3D2 -std=3Dgnu99 > -fstack-protector -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c > In file included from > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c:14: > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:135:25= : > error: sasl/sasl.h: No such file or directory > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:136:29= : > error: sasl/saslutil.h: No such file or directory > In file included from > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c:14: > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:607: > error: expected '=3D', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before ':' to= ken > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:691: > error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'sasl_conn_t' > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > then I try to find where is sasl.h >=20 > ns1:kamolpat:/usr>find . -name "sasl.h" > ./local/include/sasl/sasl.h > ./ports/security/cyrus-sasl2/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25/include/sasl.h > ./ports/security/cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25/include/s= asl.h >=20 >=20 > What should I do next? Shold I just copy the sasl.h to > /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail ? No. Don't do that. It won't help anything. You need to follow my instructions correctly. Specifically this line needs to be in /etc/make.conf in order to pick up the SASL header files: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=3D-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=3D2 Where, you will note, this does *not* say /usr/local/include/sasl, which is what appears in your compiler output. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[46.201.132.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm25549735bky.13.2012.03.12.07.07.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:07:25 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:07:31 -0000 Hi all. I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot. I just have one snippet in the logs: Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: interrupt total Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq18: ehci0 uhci5+ 325 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq19: uhci2 uhci4 4350 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq23: ehci1 uhci3 272776 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu0:timer 306304013 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq256: mpt0 106758743 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu1:timer 50588836 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu14:timer 40862828 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu12:timer 66660057 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu6:timer 51650325 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu13:timer 35826328 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu3:timer 47414874 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu10:timer 101158759 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu2:timer 116817563 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu8:timer 137051223 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu7:timer 31732225 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu11:timer 43244351 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu4:timer 83143936 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu9:timer 49622770 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu5:timer 40662969 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: cpu15:timer 27434472 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq257: igb0:que 0 20058599 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq258: igb0:que 1 15054525 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq259: igb0:que 2 14738762 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq260: igb0:que 3 14702046 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq261: igb0:que 4 14842310 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq262: igb0:que 5 15035818 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq263: igb0:que 6 14826606 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq264: igb0:que 7 14924631 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: irq265: igb0:link 2 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: Total 1461395023 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #0 0xffffffff8038d458 at kdb_backtrace+0x58 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #1 0xffffffff80315b4b at watchdog_fire+0x8b Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #2 0xffffffff80315e10 at hardclock_anycpu+0x2a0 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #3 0xffffffff80583278 at handleevents+0xd8 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #4 0xffffffff80583e36 at timercb+0x2d6 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #5 0xffffffff805aec46 at lapic_handle_timer+0xb6 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #6 0xffffffff80557f2c at Xtimerint+0x8c Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #7 0xffffffff8055c348 at cpu_idle_acpi+0x38 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #8 0xffffffff8055c402 at cpu_idle+0xa2 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #9 0xffffffff80380b7f at sched_idletd+0x37f Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #10 0xffffffff80331d36 at fork_exit+0x76 Mar 12 07:51:56 beeb kernel: #11 0xffffffff8055790e at fork_trampoline+0xe What should I blame now? Is it some programming error or should I continue with testing/changing motherboard and cpu? -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:12:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB507106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAFA8FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.139.154] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S75yk-0007JE-NA; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:12:03 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2CEBxiu002031; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:11:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2CEBvP5002030; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:11:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:11:57 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Exemys Message-ID: <20120312141156.GA1990@tiny> References: <090dac9d310aa42944c8a962c8ddb3ea@server7.hostmailing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <090dac9d310aa42944c8a962c8ddb3ea@server7.hostmailing.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.154 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modbus RTU with GSM communication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:12:05 -0000 El día Saturday, March 10, 2012 a las 02:43:10AM -0300, Exemys escribió: > This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:19:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6C106567A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463A68FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so1184492eek.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:19:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=SqbI5fSDMyTKaVxkgbnl+dkwKn97x78KIEoNu/trM2s=; b=a8cAZ2q7SkijGDRtUz5STXISyGufd6XO3XvBvBSlhi2s17d7T48A5uuolRWnouMQkV PDzU4/wLEQuA/JdhsGcCc5wPwTzMtV36tP9NYSeDPOjc5UsoaM1xDAtSe7A0spXkXo0T yL8dtnmSo0zXK7udoMRUZ6q6HH8pH+/nBMxffUUAKCW8e0dm+ihTstRIrU+I5qh5RYPq y9ihaGFfs3Lc5W+nOzFFZCQbE3ofLX9xVVMaLc2nwspcEoZQXpAOe12s4nA3ks553aPH Swyt5lhlo1AkP8Ci95L5OD9Sfjt6HsndLY55GMaBKBbQb8bK/55VhYwtllfxRVe55Nlr WMTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.180.231 with SMTP id dr7mr19082017igc.56.1331561940104; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120312141156.GA1990@tiny> References: <090dac9d310aa42944c8a962c8ddb3ea@server7.hostmailing.com> <20120312141156.GA1990@tiny> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:19:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IXVU24lfgpf3XjQqY098MTySL3I Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkuNdZxXkJtqYAWOERjESr//na0i4O4Waju7C6VHCOj+ZFI2JF7w8EaUs+OWC9nYBQh77fL Cc: Exemys , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modbus RTU with GSM communication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:03 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Saturday, March 10, 2012 a las 02:43:10AM -0300, Exemys escribi= =F3: > >> This is a message in multipart MIME format. =A0Your mail client should n= ot be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view this mes= sage correctly. >> Hi Matthias, Please re-send your mail in plain text. --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:31:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A75106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992988FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1S76H9-0004GQ-Rj>; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:03 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1S76H9-0008Gg-O2>; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4F5E08A2.9090802@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:30:58 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120311 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kpneal@pobox.com References: <4F5DFF7B.1010006@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120312142139.GA28538@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20120312142139.GA28538@neutralgood.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBEC0520A49131CC6009D79D1" X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terminal (TERM=xterm) on FreeBSD doesn not accept DEL or ALT key on/in a Linux YAST2 session X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:31:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBEC0520A49131CC6009D79D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/12/12 15:21, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:51:55PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Administering Linux Suse boxes makes it opf need to login onto those >> boxes and use the well designed kiddy-cloaking scripting environment, >> called YAST/YAST2. >> >> The problem I face now is that I can not use DEL key to delete >> characters or even use the ALT key to enforce actions like ALT-e or >> ALT-d for enabling/disabling. >> >> I tried to set environment variable "TERM =3D xterm" to "TERM =3D con= s25" >> since I thought this could be a problem with the terminal. But it >> wans't. Either the outdated X on FBSD causes problems or there is >> another issue. I desperately need some help ... >=20 > Simple questions first just to be sure: >=20 > You set TERM with the command "export TERM=3Dxterm", correct? No extra = spaces? Of course, it is either setenv TERM xterm in csh or TERM=3Dxterm in bourne-alike shells. In my FreeBSD driven environment everything is fine and shiny, but when login into a Suse 12.1 box and doing a YAST2, DEL key does not work (produce nothing) and ALT-plus-key doesn't work either. But in several cases, I need to edit lines and confirm those changes with key shortcuts like ALT-e, for instance for "enable" is much appreciated than hopping around with the TAB key. >=20 > And you are using xterm (not rxvt)? No, pure and plain and conservative xterm as it comes with the port and no extravagant terminal thingy. >=20 > What happens when you use the DEL key? Except in YAST/YAST2, it works as expected ... >=20 > I'm not familiar with YAST. Are you having problems at a normal shell > command line, or are you having problems in something run from a shell?= I'm also not familiar with YAST (I start hating this crap), but I need it since I have not the scientific support on FreeBSD platforms I need as I have on Linux (we run TESLA driven boxes acting as supercomputers. Try it, "es ist, als w=FCrden Engel schieben ..."). 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Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn9/uG2DROjhTamcBt8Vrb3rq8fYOhmpSuo4ShGhBKQtw+75FpJXDULvwDdK9MwrD3P7aqk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: Terminal (TERM=xterm) on FreeBSD doesn not accept DEL or ALT key on/in a Linux YAST2 session X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:43:18 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 03/12/12 15:21, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:51:55PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> Administering Linux Suse boxes makes it opf need to login onto those >>> boxes and use the well designed kiddy-cloaking scripting environment, >>> called YAST/YAST2. [...] > Of course, it is either setenv TERM xterm in csh or TERM=xterm in > bourne-alike shells. Hi Oliver, DEL and BS (Backspace) are one of those things where terminals have failed to standardize. Remember there are *many* layers of translations from the time you hit the key until it echoes on the terminal. First you have local keymaps which might be sending the wrong control sequence (e.g. Mac keyboard vs. regular PC). Then you have the character encoding of the terminal's OS, the you may have further translation in the protocol agents (ssh, telnet, etc.) then you have the remote shell's settings and encodings, etc. and many other things in between.... Take a look at this article and you will probably fix the problem, and it's probably not even on the FBSD side: www.ibb.net/~anne/keyboard.html Cheers, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:48:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B101065672; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamolpat@dmaccess.net) Received: from irpwifi3.truemail.co.th (irpwifi3.truemail.co.th [203.144.173.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F8D8FC16; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:48:07 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqsBAI4aXk86CIIh/2dsb2JhbAAMN6QukFWDYgEBAQQFASEkARgUARALCQoFBQECAQwBAQEHAQENAgcDAgECAQUOATEGCgMBBAECAQGIEa4uAY1FijWDHggBBYMgBIJehXSFJoICAZV0gTSBO4FKBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,571,1325437200"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="486247585" Received: from ppp-58-8-130-33.revip2.asianet.co.th (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([58.8.130.33]) by irp3.truemail.co.th with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2012 22:47:43 +0700 Message-ID: <4F5E1A9E.8020408@dmaccess.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:47:42 +0700 From: kamolpat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4F58D68D.2060700@dmaccess.net> <4F58ED8A.7050602@FreeBSD.org> <4F5DF97B.7070306@dmaccess.net> <4F5E00CE.6000600@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5E00CE.6000600@FreeBSD.org> X-PCToolsMIME: Updated by PC Tools Mime Parser 1.0.0.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: question about SMTP-authentication (3rd ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:48:11 -0000 Dear Matthew, Ok, I got sendmail complied. Thanks. But seem like ... POP3 still working in clear text usr/pwd sending to Server (but it work, I can get mail from server normal). When I chose option in ThunderBird to another mode, it doesn't work (accept "connection security: none", "authentication method: password transmitted insecurity" this is the option that TB dectected during setting mail account) SMTP doesn't work it declare from Thunder Bird: ================ Send Message Error The Kerberos/GSSAPI ticket was not accepted by the SMTP server mail.dmaccess.co.th Please check that you are logged in to the Kerberos/GSSAPI realm. (event I change "authentication method: Kerberos/GSSAPI", it still inform this message) from /var/log/maillog Mar 12 22:38:04 ns1 sendmail[93331]: q2CMc4jF093331: ppp-58-8-130-33.revip2.asianet.co.th [58.8.130.33] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MSA this is my test on server ===================== ns1:kamolpat:/etc>telnet dmaccess.co.th 25 Trying 202.170.122.33... Connected to dmaccess.co.th. Escape character is '^]'. 220 ns1.dmaccess.co.th ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.4/8.14.4; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:23:14 GMT ehlo dmaccess.co.th 250-ns1.dmaccess.co.th Hello ns1.dmaccess.co.th [202.170.122.33], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP quit 221 2.0.0 ns1.dmaccess.co.th closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. this is my /etc/mail/freebsd.mc ============================= Other dnl Uncomment the first line to change the location of the default Other dnl /etc/mail/local-host-names and comment out the second line. Other dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw') *Define* define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') Other Other dnl Enable for both IPv4 and IPv6 (optional) Other DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') Other DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') Other *Define* define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBrokenAAAA') *Define* define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed') *Define* define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy') Other Other GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/genericdomains'); Other Other dnl set SASL options Other TRUST_AUTH_MECH (`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl *Define* define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl Other Other dnl SSL Options *Define* define(`confCACERT_PATH',`/etc/ssl')dnl *Define* define(`confCACERT',`/etc/ssl/dm_new.crt')dnl *Define* define(`confSERVER_CERT',`/etc/ssl/dm_new.crt')dnl *Define* define(`confSERVER_KEY',`/etc/ssl/dm_ca.key')dnl *Define* define(`confTLS_SRV_OPTIONS',`V')dnl Other *Mailer* MAILER(local) *Mailer* MAILER(smtp) pkg_info ========= cyrus-sasl-2.1.25_1 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security Layer) cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.25 SASL authentication server for cyrus-sasl2 ..... openssl-1.0.0_9 SSL and crypto library qpopper-4.0.9_3 Berkeley POP 3 server (now maintained by Qualcomm) sendmail-8.14.4_2 Reliable, highly configurable mail transfer agent with util ================================== ns1:kamolpat:/etc/ssl>ll total 32 -rw------- 1 root wheel 455 Mar 8 22:10 dm_RSA.key -rw------- 1 root wheel 736 Mar 8 22:12 dm_ca.key -rw------- 1 root wheel 1415 Mar 8 22:13 dm_new.crt -rw------- 1 root wheel 887 Mar 8 22:08 dmcert.pem -rw------- 1 root wheel 745 Mar 8 22:08 dmreq.pem -rw-rw---- 1 root wheel 11120 Mar 8 22:05 openssl.cnf -rw-rw---- 1 root wheel 9472 Mar 8 21:55 openssl.cnf.original ======================================= Installation of Open SSL according to FreeBSD Handbook->Chapter 15 Security -> 15.8 OpenSSL on freebsd.org What I do something wrong? Thanks Kamolpat On 3/12/2012 8:57 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/03/2012 13:26, kamolpat wrote: >> According to your recommendation .... (as following). When I do make at >> /usr/src/sur.sbin/sendmail it show as following. >> ns1:kamolpat:/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail>make clean >> rm -f sm_os.h sendmail alias.o arpadate.o bf.o collect.o conf.o >> control.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o >> headers.o macro.o main.o map.o mci.o milter.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.o >> ratectrl.o readcf.o recipient.o savemail.o sasl.o sfsasl.o shmticklib.o >> sm_resolve.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o timers.o tls.o trace.o >> udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o mailq.1.gz newaliases.1.gz >> aliases.5.gz sendmail.8.gz mailq.1.cat.gz newaliases.1.cat.gz >> aliases.5.cat.gz sendmail.8.cat.gz >> ns1:kamolpat:/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail>make >> ln -sf >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include/sm/os/sm_os_freebsd.h >> sm_os.h >> cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src >> -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB >> -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS >> -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 >> -fstack-protector -c >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c >> In file included from >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c:14: >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:135:25: >> error: sasl/sasl.h: No such file or directory >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:136:29: >> error: sasl/saslutil.h: No such file or directory >> In file included from >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/alias.c:14: >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:607: >> error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before ':' token >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:691: >> error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'sasl_conn_t' >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. >> >> ======================================== >> then I try to find where is sasl.h >> >> ns1:kamolpat:/usr>find . -name "sasl.h" >> ./local/include/sasl/sasl.h >> ./ports/security/cyrus-sasl2/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25/include/sasl.h >> ./ports/security/cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25/include/sasl.h >> >> >> What should I do next? Shold I just copy the sasl.h to >> /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail ? > No. Don't do that. It won't help anything. > > You need to follow my instructions correctly. Specifically this line > needs to be in /etc/make.conf in order to pick up the SASL header files: > > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 > > Where, you will note, this does *not* say /usr/local/include/sasl, which > is what appears in your compiler output. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.19440 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:15:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776B51065672 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D2E8FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kft91i00C1ei1Bg51gEdkJ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:14:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kgEc1i0104uzdYs3kgEc57; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:14:36 +0000 Message-ID: <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:39 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:15:44 -0000 On 3/11/2012 7:33 PM, Da Rock wrote: > On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: >> On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: >> >>> No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the >>> newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the >>> bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix >>> (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of >>> hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security >>> to boot. Windows is a poorly made joke. We all know this deep down. Does no one read Computer History? Microsoft was marketing Xenix before IBM said "We need an OS that blows for a Computer that has similar power to a calculator ten years from now" and Microsoft said "We can do that!".... Well, we can BUY that.... Seattle Computer Products has this OS called QDOS that is a rip off of CP/M and stands for "Quick Dirty Operating System" if we buy that for a rip off price and rename it Disk Operating System, even though it can't handle Disks anyway, we can use this! >> IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - >> Unix, >> Mac... They never tried to be better... > Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up > their work once ported, and then said "we can do a lot better now" and > Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for > supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while > a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, > file based devices, etc). Plan 9 is a record label started by Glenn Danzig. And a movie. As for the OS, I don't care. They got it right with Unix years earlier, why stop now? AT&T didn't care about Unix until they were allowed to make money off it, but the problem there, is that Berkeley got a copy of it, and some Brilliant Hackers started working on it. The CSRG at Berkeley did things that made more possible. Then they came up with BSD, and, well, we're still using it Today. Many people would consider 6 months to a year a long time in Computer terms, and 5 years with the same OS, is considered damn good. So what does this say about BSD? We're still using an OS that was born in 1969, changed in the 70s by the Brilliance of Berkeley, and now still going strong after so long. That's not only saying something, that's a Historical thing. > So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original > designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. Oh well. We don't really have to deal with DOS anymore, and FreeDOS has done things even Microsoft couldn't buy their way through. Then we have Windows, Linux, Unix, and of course, the other toys from other people. I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux. Of course, if I won the Lotto or something, I'd re-design my House, and turn this room into a true Computer Lab. My Wife and I both are into Computers, and we both Love Unix. We'd buy sun Machines, Sparcs and, for me, a full set of SGI Workstations and Servers. And I'd like them to be running IRIX, except the new ones, I don't know what I'd use on those. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:45:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A941065672 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820BA8FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (unknown-ip-614.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.113]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 99D33B828; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:38:54 -0400 From: Rod Person To: Allen Message-ID: <20120312123854.00006d97@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10cvs7 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:45:15 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:39 -0400 Allen wrote: > > Plan 9 is a record label started by Glenn Danzig. I never thought I'd see this on FreeBSD list! I guess I have now lived long enough as they say. > Of course, if I won the Lotto or something, I'd re-design my House, > and turn this room into a true Computer Lab. My Wife and I both are > into Computers, and we both Love Unix. We'd buy sun Machines, Sparcs > and, for me, a full set of SGI Workstations and Servers. And I'd like > them to be running IRIX, except the new ones, I don't know what I'd You are either stealing my thoughts or are my long lost twin. Either way, no matter what you post from now on you are a genius in my book! -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodperson@rodperson.com 'Silence is a fence around wisdom' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:57:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A967106566C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86E28FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2CGv7Yq082340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:57:07 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2CGv7Yq082340 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q2CGv7Yq082340; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:56:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB62983D561C68FBACCCB0DC4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:57:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB62983D561C68FBACCCB0DC4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/03/2012 14:07, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > What should I blame now? Is it some programming error or should I > continue with testing/changing motherboard and cpu? Instability that appears spontaneously (and especially if it persists across system updates) is almost always caused by hardware problems. So, yes, carry on swapping out components until you can isolate where the problem is. Some common hardware problems which might result in the problems you've seen: * PSU going flakey. If you have the right measuring equipment, this is pretty easy to detect by looking at the output voltages -- if they've drifted out of spec, or if you've got mains frequency jitter leaking through then its no wonder your system crashes. * Similarly, if the crashing is associated with system load, (particularly at startup, when things are happening like disks spinning up) this can indicate a power supply fading under load. That can happen due to age, or because you've been adding extra hardware and haven't considered the power requirements. * The other reason for crashing under load is overheating. Sometimes this can be cured easily by cleaning dust out of vents and heat-sinks. Check too for fans either seized or running slowly. * You may need to clean off any old heat-sink compound and re-apply a fresh layer, especially if you've taken CPU coolers off at some point. * There's also the old capacitor problem: electrolytic capacitors have a failure mode that generates some positive pressure inside them. This is detectable by the end of the capacitor being bowed out, rather than slightly concave. (Generally this means a new motherboard, although I've heard of people being able to solder in replacements successfully.) Other than that, try disconnecting and reconnecting peripherals like disks or DVDs and so forth in various combinations to test if that improves system stability. One faulty component can knock the whole machine over. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigB62983D561C68FBACCCB0DC4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9eKuIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw2vwCdEoQpzro1ael8CGd6Vf2rKn2u 52cAn2yBYco75r3cy1GtlDJtlaf06k/O =orQV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB62983D561C68FBACCCB0DC4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:29:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B91E106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CB8A8FC18 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31228 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2012 18:29:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2012 18:29:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=Kde7Qsq+0Fr49ZwhuIRGzCAveCDEtVeaA8eZv8QcsH0=; b=KJ+cGDqz0UsfoeWsg0+OLqMX+/4yv7MiC7x3l2HYkxQQcccJ/gz1mbmEatw/2AGCtn0kua2uy0tr/w7JIJdXvS8PO4ENno12HVN0P9+qbEOSn2Iti495IgBF7mBzYPcL; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S79zY-0007Jn-EJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:29:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:29:07 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120312182907.GA11855@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:29:09 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:14:39PM -0400, Allen wrote: > > I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux. Give the Haiku project a look. It's meant to be some kind of inheritor of the BeOS legacy. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:40:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C951065677 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 387DF8FC20 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9282 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2012 18:40:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2012 18:40:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=ov9KOcHMvUTV2OHv58wYkICiu4hEr4WvonTSpxQe2eM=; b=TZDnCH5st6J/LvRTRUiA2dnHVNE4/k+v7cQ5YGtluDcdmfAE8p5sQ31qOD5VsDaNtFe8fgJdPoQ6KWa0j66FXEfl/SU3u7NvQnGNfHbBhOdyfg3dW45jHrcs9NkEshmT; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7AAp-0003bM-34 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:40:47 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:40:46 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120312184046.GB11855@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9A.78.24163.2A2CC5F4@cm-omr8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9A.78.24163.2A2CC5F4@cm-omr8> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:40:49 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:20:03AM -0500, Chris wrote: > ... One word that is rampant... Alligations Is that where someone makes a claim that someone else is an alligator? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:43:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE551065672 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9F38FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so1538459eek.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl3nv4cr19oY3tfA47W6PXRqQDmMlMu/TxgFmkD/GwMAQXI48VxkHMM3yhkUejSwsiWUg+B Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:43:14 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:14:39PM -0400, Allen wrote: >> >> I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux. > > Give the Haiku project a look. =A0It's meant to be some kind of inheritor > of the BeOS legacy. > May I suggest MenuetOS if you are really looking for something cool --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:57:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BCE106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout10.t-online.de (mailout10.t-online.de [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687898FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de (fwd00.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1S7ACT-0005t6-OF; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:29 +0100 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (bRlI3iZcwhn21-lJq7Rtb+XSrN9lG5r2Ld9Jkwolf3BD0E3mDdC-kM3etSDFVoWQG7@[84.157.111.177]) by fwd00.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1S7ACQ-1ZNVoG0; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:26 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2CIgPil074992 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2CIgP9v074991 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:24 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: bRlI3iZcwhn21-lJq7Rtb+XSrN9lG5r2Ld9Jkwolf3BD0E3mDdC-kM3etSDFVoWQG7 X-TOI-MSGID: b6411d0d-8049-4f9d-97f5-3a287a4d8305 Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:57:48 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0000, jb wrote: > Sabine Baer t-online.de> writes: > > > ... > > After your ports updates, do not forget to test integrity of ports: > # portmaster --check-depends > # portmaster --check-port-dbdir Wow, lots of garbage. > and retry the compilation again. No success. Sabine -- Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - make no mistake about it. (Martin L. King) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:00:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5724C106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31918FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.86] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2CJ0VQJ027160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:00:32 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4F5E47CD.7030802@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:00:29 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <9A.78.24163.2A2CC5F4@cm-omr8> <20120312184046.GB11855@hemlock.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20120312184046.GB11855@hemlock.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:00:34 -0000 On 12/03/2012 18:40, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:20:03AM -0500, Chris wrote: >> ... One word that is rampant... Alligations > Is that where someone makes a claim that someone else is an alligator? > sometimes i wish the lists had a "like" button :P -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546< Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0BF106566C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A588FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.86] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2CIxF1i026508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:59:17 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4F5E4781.60302@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:59:13 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kamolpat References: <4F58D68D.2060700@dmaccess.net> <4F58ED8A.7050602@FreeBSD.org> <4F5DF97B.7070306@dmaccess.net> <4F5E00CE.6000600@FreeBSD.org> <4F5E1A9E.8020408@dmaccess.net> In-Reply-To: <4F5E1A9E.8020408@dmaccess.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about SMTP-authentication (3rd ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:05:08 -0000 On 12/03/2012 15:47, kamolpat wrote: > Dear Matthew, > > Ok, I got sendmail complied. Thanks. > But seem like ... > POP3 still working in clear text usr/pwd sending to Server (but it > work, I can get mail from server normal). When I chose option in > ThunderBird to another mode, it doesn't work (accept "connection > security: none", "authentication method: password transmitted > insecurity" this is the option that TB dectected during setting mail > account) > > > SMTP doesn't work it declare > from Thunder Bird: > ================ > Send Message Error > The Kerberos/GSSAPI ticket was not accepted by the SMTP server > mail.dmaccess.co.th Please check that you are logged in to the > Kerberos/GSSAPI realm. > (event I change "authentication method: Kerberos/GSSAPI", it still > inform this message) > > from /var/log/maillog > Mar 12 22:38:04 ns1 sendmail[93331]: q2CMc4jF093331: > ppp-58-8-130-33.revip2.asianet.co.th [58.8.130.33] did not issue > MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MSA > what are you using as the authentication method for sasl? there are multiple authentication mechansims available for sasl(2), simplest is probably saslauthd *In /etc/rc.conf *saslauthd_enable=yes In /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf have: pwcheck_method: saslauthd make sure its running /usr/local/etc/rc.d/saslauthd start add a user with saslpasswd2 Test your u/p locally with testsaslauthd testsaslauthd -u -p (if thats not working it won't work over the network either) have TB set to conn security to STARTTLS and password security set to "normal password", (for non encrypted password obv) Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546< Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E15106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BDA8FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id q2CJ9X7R014825; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id q2CJ9X30014819; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:09:33 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20120312190933.GB13400@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4F5DFF7B.1010006@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120312142139.GA28538@neutralgood.org> <4F5E08A2.9090802@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="neYutvxvOLaeuPCA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: Terminal (TERM=xterm) on FreeBSD doesn not accept DEL or ALT key on/in a Linux YAST2 session X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:09:35 -0000 --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:43:17AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Take a look at this article and you will probably fix the problem, and > it's probably not even on the FBSD side: >=20 > www.ibb.net/~anne/keyboard.html not really (that page gives a lot of poor advice, particularly with regard to xterm). --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFPXknRtIqByHxlDocRAv+BAJ4rqlOqISfyEsXklj2eFsvozs+kTQCeNYHc ltTeDpBeGylw+4DtOcq7nN4= =cFJD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:18:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF59E106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBAD8FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id q2CJ7J7R014555; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id q2CJ7EG9014554; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:07:14 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20120312190714.GA13400@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4F5DFF7B.1010006@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120312142139.GA28538@neutralgood.org> <4F5E08A2.9090802@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5E08A2.9090802@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: Terminal (TERM=xterm) on FreeBSD doesn not accept DEL or ALT key on/in a Linux YAST2 session X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:18:10 -0000 --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:30:58PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > And you are using xterm (not rxvt)? >=20 > No, pure and plain and conservative xterm as it comes with the port and > no extravagant terminal thingy. Linux generally uses DEL (127) and (almost) everyone else uses BS (8). Adding to the confusion, most keyboards label it "Backspace". Most (but not all) applications on a given host are consistent with the choice (or accept either code). There are exceptions, of course. With xterm, you can use control/Backspace to toggle between the two (for one keypress), or use the control/left-mouse menu to toggle the "Backarrow Key (BS/DEL)" entry. =20 --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFPXklgtIqByHxlDocRAt3xAKCFbuHFnuB6fM74luagtiAk1KgTGgCdE1iV AXAyNbxexLuX2hw8lquiV0k= =LmSJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:20:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A308F106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665F38FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2CJJ6gP038026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:06 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:06 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q2CJJ6gP038026 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:20:43 -0000 I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec requirements in this regard. So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something like joe or vi to inhibit this feature? TIA, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:56:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF94106564A; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACB48FC1C; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0816C1703E; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:56:08 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4F5E54D8.9010808@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:56:08 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:56:10 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/03/2012 14:07, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> What should I blame now? Is it some programming error or should I >> continue with testing/changing motherboard and cpu? > > Instability that appears spontaneously (and especially if it persists > across system updates) is almost always caused by hardware problems. > So, yes, carry on swapping out components until you can isolate where > the problem is. > > Some common hardware problems which might result in the problems you've > seen: > > * PSU going flakey. If you have the right measuring equipment, this > is pretty easy to detect by looking at the output voltages -- if > they've drifted out of spec, or if you've got mains frequency > jitter leaking through then its no wonder your system crashes. > > * Similarly, if the crashing is associated with system load, > (particularly at startup, when things are happening like disks > spinning up) this can indicate a power supply fading under load. > That can happen due to age, or because you've been adding extra > hardware and haven't considered the power requirements. > > * The other reason for crashing under load is overheating. > Sometimes this can be cured easily by cleaning dust out of vents > and heat-sinks. Check too for fans either seized or running > slowly. > > * You may need to clean off any old heat-sink compound and re-apply > a fresh layer, especially if you've taken CPU coolers off at > some point. > > * There's also the old capacitor problem: electrolytic capacitors > have a failure mode that generates some positive pressure inside > them. This is detectable by the end of the capacitor being bowed > out, rather than slightly concave. (Generally this means a new > motherboard, although I've heard of people being able to solder in > replacements successfully.) > > Other than that, try disconnecting and reconnecting peripherals like > disks or DVDs and so forth in various combinations to test if that > improves system stability. One faulty component can knock the whole > machine over. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Aloha, Have seen the problems Matthew is addressing here in Hawaii. And if your equipment is in a non climate controlled room check for corrosion on the board or any plugins. Clean all the cabled and components that can be removed. (No air-con in my systems here in Hawaii and humidity is around 60-70% normally so we have to clean and put teflon on contacts about 2 times a year.) Corrosion is worse if your on the ocean or brackish river. Happy hunting. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:07:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9182E1065674 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F448FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so3471215wib.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=x9oIF8L66TnPwwdq/IwL+1Nzugv8jGjqm+wKS7ICIgE=; b=iSs/cnt6zMMavhaXI6y3B0SJ8rfEi80R2AvLiEGkllmU1bF5xT4Ng7wrxjgmSV+mhb I9KYb0nI8e5WKrgVMMw6cocnUgbAyQ2nP5jdPlcFPR+DJYjSVSlSQluer0/VwrlC3+fS eoaVsbzpqD9i4Dp3bIB2IaL3MvItEHDTq8gZr8fJjdp5Fz9d2WcGV6gzTn024qVvPmql GiqA2b+i55+1uYyoshmwjplhP6O2w0C5n7PulSevD4czMWJy09/yaxPAHxqMsiMkqVC4 y2/i+6YmbaqupRhLy5a6NO68dFH/M0yLSLVQDMd53v+HtQnpwWIGZ2SfY/XQt80paSIB Hfig== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.102 with SMTP id fn6mr902548wib.10.1331582840318; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.102.78 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:07:21 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > Hi all. > > I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After > upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory > was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot. > So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test. It doesn't mean it's not the culprit. Way too many false negatives from those things. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:13:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D5A106567D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB7D8FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id q2CKDA7R025409; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id q2CKDAe8025408; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:13:10 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20120312201310.GA25349@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:13:11 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:19:06PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit > files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit > to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec > requirements in this regard. >=20 > So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something l= ike > joe or vi to inhibit this feature? man vi (see "-S") --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFPXljRtIqByHxlDocRAsZPAJ9P2wfV/GO6JI/FcF4dNPC3G5TJ6QCggxtW H2xsuxURt4sD1U9LDmQQIjw= =8OLK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:21:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA501065673 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115748FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2CKKvaL039303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:20:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4F5E5AA9.4050700@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:20:57 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Dickey References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <20120312201310.GA25349@saltmine.radix.net> In-Reply-To: <20120312201310.GA25349@saltmine.radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:20:57 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q2CKKvaL039303 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:21:06 -0000 On 03/12/2012 03:13 PM, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:19:06PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit >> files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit >> to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec >> requirements in this regard. >> >> So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something like >> joe or vi to inhibit this feature? > > man vi (see "-S") > It turns out you can still work around this if your know the trick. I am still researching this, but restricted vi appears to be compromised. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:37:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A354106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaltheat@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BEC8FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:37:35 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=hVOo/+tMdtYHfP1g9vZdPFXhA+7wVZF/l30LqSeR7Kw1FnpXEnCFqHFqOKif7a8+miS69lGjx+W7 r1a+zxrHE8ZLcqcComNadkmZiyFkkuYnP7Qh7tEANjU2KsNHOIfi Received: from - (64-146-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de [86.103.146.64]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1331581557156698.1406603840168; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:45:46 +0100 From: kaltheat@googlemail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: kaltheat@zoho.com X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 Subject: Which compiler compiled system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:37:41 -0000 Hi, Is there a way to determine whether a FreeBSD-system was compiled with gcc or clang? I thought of some libs or so that might significantly differ. Regards, kaltheat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:47:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7EA106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB138FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q2CKirgv046912; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:44:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201203122044.q2CKirgv046912@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tundra@tundraware.com In-Reply-To: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:47:33 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 12 14:22:29 2012 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:19:06 -0500 > From: Tim Daneliuk > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Editor With NO Shell Access? > > I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit > files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit > to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec > requirements in this regard. > > So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something like > joe or vi to inhibit this feature? If the need is for 'simple'/'minimal' editing -- as opposed to, say, regex- based global-search-and-replace, A more-or-less 'easy' way to do this could be to use a web browser. .htaccess to determine who can access what file, probably from a specific list. a cgi-bin that, on validate access, loads the file into a 'textarea' on a
. (form has a 'hidden' field that identifies the file being edited, User makes changes in the 'text' block, clicks 'update' (form 'submit' button) when finished. There's a .htaccess on the form-processing cgi-bin to re-validate the submission. (prevents somebody 'faking' a file update without actual permission.) The cgi-bin then re-writes the edited file. Depending on 'security' requirements, you may need a shared-memory cache -- used between the two cgi-bin invocations -- to provide 'session' locking, prevent 'overlapping' updates, and trap _all_ 'forged' file updates. This has some 'maintainablity' advantages over the 'hacked' editor approach. It's much clearer to a future person just _what_ is going on. It's also clear to the user what they can, and _cannot_ do. This has major beneficial effect on those who attempt to 'push the limits'. Hack the editor to disable functionality, and _somebody_ *will* complain that they =need= that functionality, for a 'superficially plausable' reason. Otherwise, hacking the source code for, say, 'vi', should -not- be very difficult. Look for the logic that processes '!!' or ":!" at the beginning of an input sequence, and disable the related functionality. You could probably make a dinky little library -- with 'fake' routines for 'fork', 'exec', and 'pipe'; routes that 'do nothing' other than raise a security alert, and include that in the compile/link for a customized 'vi', before 'libc'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:49:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF361065670 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EFD8FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so1656772eek.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:49:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hBGC4PTPNpeCP9vCZraDkYVWQ7Zt3XkN0JJZb43kLrA=; b=INNIIMiMVw0agnQeLB+BFgFzZBfHyk2BYpI0tHhSjShcxBFaOkLTVcRgndHaL/vfYG i1pm4FXKSfwUzaT7SEp4KYFc1gt+wVjtLa0ID2ed+Cn0h66ULgWcSoFIpBey1NdJjLNL sJGw4JUWjSgMzTdtFfWyn+lkz4j8XtX4N8Qp798/0/jGlkVw1eP+jqszREtfhIRa1btM Nu3MJf6e76IMzvG/t3iskKYEVd9wQEPXj9cQlWRDN9P22jmpQVv20p/ZVhQYavG8sBIu w5UYpa3j9REIbXFBsGMOjnLndoByYnwA8c/ghoTFgxWjsEENC8/+FXbGENGNY64JMftC gJmA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.45.228 with SMTP id q4mr604525igm.58.1331585378486; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.78.38 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:49:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> References: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:49:38 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZQ1fDR-hJ2jTjxFe4TXRWmb9_n8 Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kaltheat@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Which compiler compiled system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:49:40 -0000 If Java is broken, then you know FreeBSD was compiled with clang... On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to determine whether a FreeBSD-system was compiled with gcc > or clang? > I thought of some libs or so that might significantly differ. > > Regards, > kaltheat > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:00:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B46106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2B48FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so2424127wer.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kEBnWeKGid+HB6fx5M0rgjWxWY6H9jFo9faWONd+2TA=; b=Gbl5SuYbXOVP3O1/ESYnw0yyoPboi8VDhvwBBG6pvSvjoUERDFHN+c61mySDHMAE9F Eg29+/7y18dqUcQDYK3MkVYdHwdvRR0cVeP7zOS8gN8jLi7Orun7sXIZVRXLCcfW8M4s v03T9Imbeblb9QaoSezAehv8BmLZYEkoyhGVE59U9wfGO5xNckhxuUU9Y0XGxtfcPyVq hJUBI4m7Xid9kTXM+LJDxlkU/C4k0bpzdHp+EA54Fq4L7NndpY5sgM5n0JZeIu7iltrV GZsM4fI7p+4WT7SwTLDsoFfq5QjwnQfOyDH+aQrZhgPc1DRMNnYzQPH9f6NSulwDttY0 7dcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.86.230 with SMTP id s6mr1194364wiz.16.1331586052902; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.11.7 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:00:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <34088E52-51DA-4D77-9E3B-A19E8CBDFEEC@my.gd> References: <6C1B4420-3535-40A1-83CE-15CEBEF60A66@my.gd> <34088E52-51DA-4D77-9E3B-A19E8CBDFEEC@my.gd> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: apache22 + mod_fastcgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:00:54 -0000 socket file: -socket /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock are same for both default and virtual host the only difference is a directory with phpscript On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Have you tried pointing your vhost's fcgi handler to the same unix socket= path you use for your default vhost ? > > > > On 10 Mar 2012, at 02:35, alexus wrote: > >> if it would be incorrectly it wouldn't work the first time (default host= ) >> virtualhost has a copy from a default host, the only difference is >> local path to directory, that's all >> ifmodule is there just in case if for whatever reason module is >> missing, site can operate in degraded state vs not operate at all and >> other virtual hosts can work as well otherwise i have to go and >> comment out alot of lines manually so it's not ifmodule as that proven >> to work, but in any case i added ifmodule after, line was there before >> without ifmodule so it didn't work before either.. >> >> >> mbp:~ alexus$ curl -I http://XX.XXX.XX.XXX/php/phpinfo.php >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK >> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:34:29 GMT >> Server: Apache/2.2.21 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 >> mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.7.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 >> X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.8 >> Content-Type: text/html >> >> mbp:~ alexus$ curl -I http://virtualhost.com/php/phpinfo.php >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK >> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:34:42 GMT >> Server: Apache/2.2.21 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 >> mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.7.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 >> Last-Modified: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:10:09 GMT >> ETag: "97c8ef-11-4b99824b74240" >> Accept-Ranges: bytes >> Content-Length: 17 >> Content-Type: application/x-httpd-php >> >> mbp:~ alexus$ >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>> I think you're naming your module incorrectly. >>> >>> First, try just setting the handler in your vhost w/o the ifmodule stuf= f. >>> If that works, you know where you've gone wrong. >>> >>> >>> On 9 Mar 2012, at 21:12, alexus wrote: >>> >>>> i'd like to follow up with this question if possible >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM, alexus wrote: >>>>> --- >>>>> LoadModule fastcgi_module =C2=A0 =C2=A0 libexec/apache22/mod_fastcgi.= so >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0AddHandler php5-fastcgi .php >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0FastCgiExternalServer /usr/local/www/apach= e22/data/php -socket >>>>> /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> this works for my apache for default virtualhost, yet if i use same >>>>> thing under a virtualhost it won't work >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ServerName xxxx >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0DocumentRoot /home/xxx/xxx/htdocs/ >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0AddHandler php= 5-fastcgi .php >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0FastCgiExterna= lServer /home/xxx/xxx/htdocs/php -socket >>>>> /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> in default virtual host i PHP scripts gets executed no problem, under >>>>> second it actually just starts downloading that php script.. >>>>> >>>>> any ideas? 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[76.75.113.195]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm22424219obz.14.2012.03.12.14.40.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:40:10 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:40:18 -0000 On 2012-03-12 15:19, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit > files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit > to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec > requirements in this regard. > > So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something like > joe or vi to inhibit this feature? I don't know if this will help, but it may provide an idea that could spark something further. You can force a user directly into an editor so they have no shell access. For example, if the user has '/bin/csh' as their login shell, adding: exec /usr/local/bin/vim into their ~/.cshrc file will force them directly into vim. When they exit vim, they are immediately logged off. However, I don't believe this will provide them any way to see their files though. vim's ":open filename" and ":w filename" still work, but shell commands (eg ":! ls -la") don't. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:57:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF8F106566C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2548FC1E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4A1E7D0; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:57:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2CLvmT7002062; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:57:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:57:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sabine Baer Message-Id: <20120312225747.b7e68635.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:57:49 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:24 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0000, jb wrote: > > Sabine Baer t-online.de> writes: > > > > > ... > > > > After your ports updates, do not forget to test integrity of ports: > > # portmaster --check-depends > > # portmaster --check-port-dbdir > > Wow, lots of garbage. > > > and retry the compilation again. > > No success. Did you have the chance to try to compile it using "only ports" infrastructure? E. g. making sure the ports tree is up to date, and then # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/ # make install to start with a clean (!) build? Just to be sure, you could remove any possibly "offending" distfiles/ archives and work/ subtrees. If this has worked, you can run the portmaster checks again, but if I understood you correctly, getting WindowMaker (not sure about the current correct spelling!) installed and running is your top priority. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:04:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C15106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (omr7.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654C28FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr9 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2CM47JX014186 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:04:07 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr9 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:43054] helo=[192.168.222.25]) by cm-omr9 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 1B/26-22803-7D27E5F4; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4F5E72D8.2070704@makeworld.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:04:08 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9A.78.24163.2A2CC5F4@cm-omr8> <20120312184046.GB11855@hemlock.hydra> <4F5E47CD.7030802@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5E47CD.7030802@ifdnrg.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:04:08 -0000 On 3/12/2012 2:00 PM, Paul Macdonald wrote: > On 12/03/2012 18:40, Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:20:03AM -0500, Chris wrote: >>> ... One word that is rampant... Alligations >> Is that where someone makes a claim that someone else is an alligator? >> > sometimes i wish the lists had a "like" button :P > > HA! I just love my HTC auto correct. But to the point ... Sure, I *like* it. -- Keep well, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:10:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392A21065670 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E840D8FC18 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FA91E8A8; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:10:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2CMA0fc002125; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:10:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:10:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Steve Bertrand Message-Id: <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tim Daneliuk , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:10:02 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:40:10 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > You can force a user directly into an editor so they have no shell > access. For example, if the user has '/bin/csh' as their login shell, > adding: > > exec /usr/local/bin/vim > > into their ~/.cshrc file will force them directly into vim. When they > exit vim, they are immediately logged off. Just an idea about extending this idea: What if the shell field for that user does not contain a shell, but the name of the editor instead? I assume it has to be "noted" in /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe could work (haven't tested that). A list of the files can be obtained when opening a file ^KE and pressing the Tab key. It would be worth testing if shell escapes like !command will work in this constellation... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:15:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C95106566C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD808FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so3716403ghr.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3kIDcGB7YkxvXuNgCxg1xx+zpwqlT3m1quKiinpjvTc=; b=pnR7O+EKZfiaNk65DfnJLF5qEZ7NG1vHlQ83fb7JYr/nxHdkrpiAC8sMBkz2oHqBIB xvmYs6frNCRhr4TVqMSOGlv6YuKMxX/W3Lq2w7AOP0VH8DpaR1xIgtc7DDCQ1IyYzFH2 jzVcA4PuP7ykNOgW+IAIWhvLo9QEVOF8Lb+fw1mDfq/ZYxVYvt7QROUlNTLvUxJ+Pb6p OHsETHGvuqrske98M1eV2PqJG25trT8phZ+tT20+BRPFGyHn6hbw8lVXnBHaSi6cPYW5 rW8GCxN6Aw/HAqPrcqWOpp4/w5qhgczzB8jZavKOca5bMReTrMrW+9ZRYtRPibReQZ9p UEFg== Received: by 10.182.8.69 with SMTP id p5mr9666981oba.28.1331590513167; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c7sm12464192oeh.1.2012.03.12.15.15.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700 From: "Edward M." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120225 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:15:14 -0000 On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: > /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like > > bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe I think this would not let the user to login,etc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:23:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B3A1065673 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435A88FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD241EA21; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:23:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2CMN03m002228; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:23:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:23:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Edward M." Message-Id: <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:23:02 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: > On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like > > > > bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe > > > I think this would not let the user to login,etc I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred to the login shell, which is the program specified in the "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is login supposed to know if the program specified in this field is actually a dialog shell? >From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability of performing a login. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:43:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812BA106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365538FC19 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so3770281ggn.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C7dkotTbFhg1IQySPWYaZO5zbBiG7Fw1qztqoySnsuY=; b=t81cOZi5ZiiQ5UwKqKJih/Umk5igOOBqfZR6IqLWwWPMxrleYhIZVIsmTnROfM9e+W CAh1gqByVS4yt/DQNd4vBoCmh6AQ50VlvlxYuhgSrAweePzNs6/wtTgFFReDOMIbgnpt BE74IXOVB9E6A5exD2qeuwONzZBeNAoZlyQ5e8zw6jp0S6Oy3xQLbrY8x3PqIxIA4qN1 L0Pdz5SUxF2jcdWGjzrYZNKZ85TNZzbtWhb7V3OQe2G70TLM+07uINWFxWP7MbCIqq6E KzAG+UDVDue7upIWPUwLz63IVwijQorBgRey0W8PrerMQAe2qmPXcWwgwQeX3hNZvjl8 0Umw== Received: by 10.182.109.106 with SMTP id hr10mr9756493obb.27.1331592201450; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm12532154oex.12.2012.03.12.15.43.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5E7D1F.9030703@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:47:59 -0700 From: "Edward M." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120225 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:43:22 -0000 On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: >> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like >>> >>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe >> >> I think this would not let the user to login,etc > I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, > and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred > to the login shell, which is the program specified in the > "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is > login supposed to know if the program specified in this > field is actually a dialog shell? > > From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in > login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default > binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if > it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability > of performing a login. > > > Now i gotta try this out. Off to hosed my system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:45:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD331065674 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731448FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E8C5C28 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:59:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B5525C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:59:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5E7B59.4050400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:40:25 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:45:43 -0000 On 03/13/12 02:14, Allen wrote: > On 3/11/2012 7:33 PM, Da Rock wrote: >> On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: >>> On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: >>> >>>> No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the >>>> newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the >>>> bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix >>>> (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of >>>> hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security >>>> to boot. > Windows is a poorly made joke. We all know this deep down. Does no one > read Computer History? Microsoft was marketing Xenix before IBM said "We > need an OS that blows for a Computer that has similar power to a > calculator ten years from now" and Microsoft said "We can do that!".... > Well, we can BUY that.... Seattle Computer Products has this OS called > QDOS that is a rip off of CP/M and stands for "Quick Dirty Operating > System" if we buy that for a rip off price and rename it Disk Operating > System, even though it can't handle Disks anyway, we can use this! > >>> IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - >>> Unix, >>> Mac... They never tried to be better... >> Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up >> their work once ported, and then said "we can do a lot better now" and >> Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for >> supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while >> a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, >> file based devices, etc). > Plan 9 is a record label started by Glenn Danzig. And a movie. As for > the OS, I don't care. They got it right with Unix years earlier, why > stop now? You realise, of course, that a lot of things you take for granted on BSD Unix was ported from Plan9? Yes, they got it right the first time. _And_ the second. People were impressed, but it would have taken too much effort to change ingrained ways and habits. > AT&T didn't care about Unix until they were allowed to make money off > it, but the problem there, is that Berkeley got a copy of it, and some > Brilliant Hackers started working on it. > > The CSRG at Berkeley did things that made more possible. Then they came > up with BSD, and, well, we're still using it Today. Many people would > consider 6 months to a year a long time in Computer terms, and 5 years > with the same OS, is considered damn good. So what does this say about BSD? > > We're still using an OS that was born in 1969, changed in the 70s by the > Brilliance of Berkeley, and now still going strong after so long. That's > not only saying something, that's a Historical thing. It is astounding. For around 20 years it hung around before they came up with something new, 40 years on and its still going strong - cars don't even last that long; or some buildings for that matter! >> So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original >> designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. > Oh well. We don't really have to deal with DOS anymore, and FreeDOS has > done things even Microsoft couldn't buy their way through. Then we have > Windows, Linux, Unix, and of course, the other toys from other people. > I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux. > > Of course, if I won the Lotto or something, I'd re-design my House, and > turn this room into a true Computer Lab. My Wife and I both are into > Computers, and we both Love Unix. We'd buy sun Machines, Sparcs and, for > me, a full set of SGI Workstations and Servers. And I'd like them to be > running IRIX, except the new ones, I don't know what I'd use on those. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:49:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA02B106566C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851F28FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F545C28 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:02:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F5565C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:02:52 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5E7C35.2090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:44:05 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:49:22 -0000 On 03/13/12 02:56, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/03/2012 14:07, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> What should I blame now? Is it some programming error or should I >> continue with testing/changing motherboard and cpu? > Instability that appears spontaneously (and especially if it persists > across system updates) is almost always caused by hardware problems. > So, yes, carry on swapping out components until you can isolate where > the problem is. > > Some common hardware problems which might result in the problems you've > seen: > > * PSU going flakey. If you have the right measuring equipment, this > is pretty easy to detect by looking at the output voltages -- if > they've drifted out of spec, or if you've got mains frequency > jitter leaking through then its no wonder your system crashes. > > * Similarly, if the crashing is associated with system load, > (particularly at startup, when things are happening like disks > spinning up) this can indicate a power supply fading under load. > That can happen due to age, or because you've been adding extra > hardware and haven't considered the power requirements. > > * The other reason for crashing under load is overheating. > Sometimes this can be cured easily by cleaning dust out of vents > and heat-sinks. Check too for fans either seized or running > slowly. > > * You may need to clean off any old heat-sink compound and re-apply > a fresh layer, especially if you've taken CPU coolers off at > some point. > > * There's also the old capacitor problem: electrolytic capacitors > have a failure mode that generates some positive pressure inside > them. This is detectable by the end of the capacitor being bowed > out, rather than slightly concave. (Generally this means a new > motherboard, although I've heard of people being able to solder in > replacements successfully.) Yes, that works (relatively easily); but you need to be good with a soldering iron and be able to remove the cap without breaking tracks or shorting them. If you're not that or confident, I wouldn't try; although if the MB is cactus anyway you may have nothing to lose :) > > Other than that, try disconnecting and reconnecting peripherals like > disks or DVDs and so forth in various combinations to test if that > improves system stability. One faulty component can knock the whole > machine over. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:53:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C902A106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793348FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB655C28 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:07:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C93A5C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:07:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5E7D44.9000101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:48:36 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:53:52 -0000 On 03/13/12 06:07, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrkowrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After >> upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory >> was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot. >> > So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test. It doesn't mean it's not > the culprit. Way too many false negatives from those things. > Overnight soak test with memtest possible? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:00:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77005106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266708FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAC95C28 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:14:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BAAC5C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:14:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5E7EDF.9070000@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:55:27 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which compiler compiled system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:00:45 -0000 On 03/13/12 06:49, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > If Java is broken, then you know FreeBSD was compiled with clang... I wouldn't say that is categorical. > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM, wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to determine whether a FreeBSD-system was compiled with gcc >> or clang? >> I thought of some libs or so that might significantly differ. >> >> Regards, >> kaltheat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:16:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ED41065673 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthewstory@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6908FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so3801593ggn.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:16:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TyO6Z4+oizfJ7BgOy5azz2ylHM9sbfN03Tz7Ee7vsm8=; b=uOp0otv/6fkAxl46ejUuwjpqr9RlM7tr3+tm+NozjK8Q5gPFjcW+uPsphlQJzCSTzB jaijFaSFYKYvYj5MAaD9FLoDni+ARofuTHhZRI8cN1h3AC4GxqPYZiKLdeWS3mkxLSEz y3NYJbV4+icmlgDhr5Dce2XzbsfTkC392t+n9ulWNLrLyI+BtHws5t4fM8suezxcPJ/c VGoL4JPMl1pU10RLz6jzvC/HG2szneA5+CZS43d3yel/7a7ZkDTttSsdDcPbpK0hrCTu fyHMqluLXV2ejj8jfPV2Vul9sLrlUoxAbFZkJ46hzJvQLNeV8YfCL+xnV2ZAA+6tslNV RE3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.76.164 with SMTP id l4mr15872947vdw.6.1331594164897; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.93.42 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:16:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F5E7EDF.9070000@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> <4F5E7EDF.9070000@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:16:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: Matthew Story To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Which compiler compiled system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:16:06 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > On 03/13/12 06:49, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > >> If Java is broken, then you know FreeBSD was compiled with clang... >> > I wouldn't say that is categorical. > > >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM, wrote: >> >> Hi, >>> >>> Is there a way to determine whether a FreeBSD-system was compiled with >>> gcc >>> or clang? >>> I thought of some libs or so that might significantly differ. >>> >> strings on a clang v. gcc compile shows no differences (at least in my tests), but binaries compiled with clang and gcc seem to reliable show differences at the 25th character of the compiled program, although the differences at the 25th character are not consistent across programs ... $ # one example $ gcc -Wall -o hello_world.gcc hello_world.c $ clang -Wall -o hello_world.clang hello_world.c $ cmp hello_world.gcc hello_world.clang hello_world.gcc hello_world.clang differ: char 25, line 1 this does suggest that if you know gcc and clang are the only 2 options for compilation on a system, and you have a version compiled with the same flags on the same system from a known compiler, you should be able to reliably detect compilation by the other compiler using cmp ... although this may be more or less meaningless to you depending on how much control you have over the variables (e.g. binaries built on the same system, ability to know which compilation flags were sent at compile time, etc ...): $ # hello_world here is ``in the wild'' $ clang -Wall -o hello_world.clang hello_world.c $ if cmp hello_world.clang hello_world > /dev/null 2> /dev/null; then echo "built with clang"; else echo "built with gcc"; fi built with clang > >>> Regards, >>> kaltheat >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@**freebsd.org >>> " >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > -- regards, matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:16:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633D91065673 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C178FC21 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q2CNGKWo087542 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:16:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F5E83A2.5000809@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:15:46 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Jail and questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:16:23 -0000 Hello list I've setup a 32-bit jail on amd64 freebsd 8.2-stable. It works, sort of, but when i run portsnap extract in the jail it say Building new INDEX files... make_index: fopen(/dev/stdin): No such file or directory #ls /dev lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 6 Mar 02:56 log -> /var/run/log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 76 12 Mar 23:09 null -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 10 Mar 03:01 stderr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1360 7 Mar 04:44 stdout Where is stdin? or running #ps ps: /boot/kernel/kernel: No such file or directory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:29:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DE4106564A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABDF8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so3778534yhg.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:29:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H2U6HwYfEMfgDx8QwsrTM5A/usJMaCXlK81ucmKHURY=; b=snLXkBHq/nOkkx9lyaOrbZKfM+rAgvOC8BGqIlR/it7Lu1A0VzPfrEIHfumfXOuynR 3EQu1FZ8q0J9ioQjBxQ/RA0b81Gcvdx0qUOEfO5aO+mxg33wenmt1d8ZFlvEkGRwXVUu xVc5vGSzSdNh6XLhsB5MzrgeSODXDNxVEGFxHOGvTAn1ufLDJcbiCTE3neVvGwUPUFN0 V6Ka7zj2LOjtKuZCdQTysUjrw0Bs/XSElW8TP6JpZU0H67JizbVb7QRRISLnmDGPnKR4 WznQxYBHMZeQ9kw4ypIurCVa3//sikK6jLt+lAuqGD3fcS2hh3rFY5WOyoFytbIwm17/ wOiQ== Received: by 10.60.4.225 with SMTP id n1mr9524603oen.11.1331594980764; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g2sm22872888obl.7.2012.03.12.16.29.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5E87FA.7090001@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:34:18 -0700 From: "Edward M." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120225 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7D1F.9030703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5E7D1F.9030703@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:29:41 -0000 On 03/12/2012 03:47 PM, Edward M. wrote: > On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: >>> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like >>>> >>>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe >>> >>> I think this would not let the user to login,etc >> I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, >> and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred >> to the login shell, which is the program specified in the >> "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is >> login supposed to know if the program specified in this >> field is actually a dialog shell? >> >> From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in >> login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default >> binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if >> it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability >> of performing a login. >> >> >> > Now i gotta try this out. Off to > hosed my system. Does not work. Could not login, it shows "Couldn't open *-joerc." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:29:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5704A106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F398FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747655C28 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:43:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB1405C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:43:26 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5E85B8.9010107@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:24:40 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E83A2.5000809@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F5E83A2.5000809@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Jail and questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:29:57 -0000 On 03/13/12 09:15, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list > > I've setup a 32-bit jail on amd64 freebsd 8.2-stable. > > It works, sort of, but when i run portsnap extract in the jail it say > > Building new INDEX files... make_index: fopen(/dev/stdin): No such > file or directory > > #ls /dev > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 6 Mar 02:56 log -> /var/run/log > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 76 12 Mar 23:09 null > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 10 Mar 03:01 stderr > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1360 7 Mar 04:44 stdout > > Where is stdin? > > or running #ps ps: /boot/kernel/kernel: No such file or directory You may have to unhide it and enable the specific rules for the jail system. I thought stdin was enabled by default, but I could be wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:37:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429A4106566B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4D398FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28925 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2012 23:37:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2012 23:37:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=oGH5zQ8PC6vOMKkJqN14x7LBzprwTVhjgnNiUbM/QU4=; b=b00mT1QKCEz4lIB+OFR4HIW/BKgexVu4VYe+31M2za0MtpeHP/l6jmoXYPvI2mAcbA7Oj6bhUfNw3bTrbskhyFiyGHTFiiCyYOQnKSFSphxQz7wi394Pzqn80n2YmFaK; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Eo7-0007RO-8P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:37:39 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:37:38 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120312233738.GC11455@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Which compiler compiled system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:43 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 04:49:38PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > > If Java is broken, then you know FreeBSD was compiled with clang... It's probably more accurate to say "If Java is not broken, it's almost certainly built with GCC. If it's broken, it could go either way." (No offense to the Java maintainers at the FreeBSD project, of course. They do a great job of making it possible to get working at all.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:59:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AB11065673 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C668E8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so3689211wib.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=7psXjPH9XfgBc5Y3OG2ioPVu0E08pVddb1OExdoQgbk=; b=D+fAAyg12otjJkoNhahTMb/X0pb3z1FFds6FDnMrOMgqldE1Hpx0fEoHdhFYjT7Moh AU/7Miz+XPdTweD/reD8WCArUY8aReB/U45jOXvBjhjh/mRyiBTqDwU9AE+lSTGtAV2i I9ztXO8sSv2xE6sR+vwppDfJj0cqRbckYH4cEKAVmvp1jlKyV43Y8UfwqpucTgqPKvPA fJMK6UafEgaoX79lwnGB5ATLL9i/Gq6XB6YqHwllB8fwSgaD/J7sgcf65bzc9eQIiUzB r9qahx69Ry7goDGIp7D3FM7Bjtd+EmuYXtPir/JpEpBw8OhC0RC0NJUT5fu7E2Tmnv5h mDAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.138.223 with SMTP id a73mr8213934wej.86.1331596794743; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.28.129 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.139] In-Reply-To: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:59:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: Tim Daneliuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQln3z4pPLiF5wpaABEfu7FltQIH/JMXkOrRPdPBH3XHJ0kVbDiBHi2zY5//IaAwHGIQRG/A Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:59:56 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote= : > I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edi= t > files. =A0However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to ex= it > to the shell. =A0 The client in question has strong (and unyielding) Info= Sec > requirements in this regard. I vaguely recall that pico can be configured to work this way. Check out /usr/ports/editors/pico-alpine. Sorry I can't give much more help; it's been a very long time since I worked with that particular editor. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:14:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FCB106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951C38FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515C11F3B5; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:13:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2D0DqfZ002594; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:13:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:13:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Edward M." Message-Id: <20120313011352.17af0a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F5E87FA.7090001@gmail.com> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7D1F.9030703@gmail.com> <4F5E87FA.7090001@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:20 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:34:18 -0700, Edward M. wrote: > On 03/12/2012 03:47 PM, Edward M. wrote: > > On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: > >>> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: > >>>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like > >>>> > >>>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe > >>> > >>> I think this would not let the user to login,etc > >> I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, > >> and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred > >> to the login shell, which is the program specified in the > >> "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is > >> login supposed to know if the program specified in this > >> field is actually a dialog shell? > >> > >> From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in > >> login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default > >> binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if > >> it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability > >> of performing a login. > >> > >> > >> > > Now i gotta try this out. Off to > > hosed my system. > Does not work. Could not login, it shows "Couldn't open *-joerc." Very strange message. I know there's a .joerc in ~ (for the user) and a global /usr/local/etc/joe/rjoerc (for system-wide use). I also get this message: Couldn't open '*-joerc' Maybe this is because joe isn't a shell and doesn't set some required variables, such as $PATH or $HOME, and joe cannot find its rc files... The reason is what I see in /usr/ports/editors/joe/work/joe-3.7/main.c line 353 and above. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:15:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4116106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAE78FC18 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so3824281ghr.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:15:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Rr7W4I4fTenEV3XVLeQk8Jbuk6YNSGcx2OVQOdcFzDw=; b=HRllNTsa6AA1lpsZbiLfpb+P9c/cns6mYtRcBZcB1kmjmXfVCZ3LEj/pJAGlza9Kbq lLDpGosSe0c+JSlqsjfKBDDtf/qrsR5q2VCd1OMZD2O3ij09kVdO7uNgZCvfmiMkIbyV RiNgztKOZ3EseBluI4Jji0XpxWdIT4Rs0ffNAk/jwWeOLr3iQVo9QTTPVeABHVktfPT2 Bm0QQB0yq2itwwWI8gQbHLwkYL/OEHmEWFPjHbendzBqBvkRh9HBR67hoLOi0MLkGjKy iyJIPbb9vpY8LjMAp98+Ia7V/EcmOwNP8+TQ3lV6/OSgVjbLYqIcnITeAldq/rytRyuR /iCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.7.102 with SMTP id i6mr9703711oea.9.1331597711746; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.49.164 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:15:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:15:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: David Brodbeck X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlceCF5CVNOexRbh/laSla09wrD/HjrforDmoTVwDEjq/iMLbzGe4i9ElLMBiGKC7+PFEKa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Tim Daneliuk , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:15:12 -0000 There are two edits to make to ex_shell.c in /usr/src/contrib/nvi/ex that will prevent a shell from being executed. 99,100c return (1); . 48,51c return (1); . On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Tim Daneliuk > wrote: > > I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to > edit > > files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit > > to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) > InfoSec > > requirements in this regard. > > I vaguely recall that pico can be configured to work this way. Check > out /usr/ports/editors/pico-alpine. Sorry I can't give much more > help; it's been a very long time since I worked with that particular > editor. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:32:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D048E106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921368FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q2D0XUwg048729; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:33:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:33:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201203130033.q2D0XUwg048729@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: eam1edward@gmail.com, freebsd@edvax.de In-Reply-To: <4F5E7D1F.9030703@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:32:20 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 12 17:46:04 2012 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:47:59 -0700 > From: "Edward M." > To: Polytropon > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? > > On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: > >> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: > >>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like > >>> > >>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe > >> > >> I think this would not let the user to login,etc > > I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, > > and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred > > to the login shell, which is the program specified in the > > "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is > > login supposed to know if the program specified in this > > field is actually a dialog shell? > > > > From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in > > login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default > > binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if > > it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability > > of performing a login. > > > > > > > Now i gotta try this out. Off to > hosed my system. If other configuration is set up right (e.g. /etc/shells), you can name *any* executable as the 'shell' field in /etc/passwd, and have it work. "Long, long, ago", I used this for client 'on demand' system back-up. They just put the tape in the drive, and logged in as the 'backup' user. *HOWEVER* this is -not- a solution for the OP's "problem", as a skilled, _malicious_, user can change, say, vi(1)'s idea of what executable it should invoke when a '!', or '!!' command is issued. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:51:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8D31065670 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@mail.bnetmd.net) Received: from smtp-out2.electric.net (files2.electricmail.com [72.35.23.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E91E8FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.86.5.47] (helo=fuse247.electric.net) by bean.electric.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7AYH-0000RL-V0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:05:01 -0700 Received: from mailanyone.net by fuse247.electric.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP glenn@bnetmd.net) id 1S7AYE-0001XV-8X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:05:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Glenn McCalley" To: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:04:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:03:07 +0000 Subject: tar won't extract a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:51:19 -0000 Hello all, never had tar refuse to extract a directory from an archive before. tar archive is: htdocs.1201.tar.gz tar tzf htdocs.1201.tar.gz | grep standrewsglenwood ...shows a list of files contained within the archived dir: htdocs/standrewsglenwood/ yet the command: tar xzf htdocs.1201.tar.gz htdocs/standrewsglenwood ...extracts nothing. I've tried an individual file in that dir with no success. I've tried other files and dirs with no success. ?? Glenn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 01:19:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0759106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839C28FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M0S00IVGRJCNI00@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-03-12_07:2012-03-13, 2012-03-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1203120301 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:18:48 -0700 Message-id: References: <20120312194545.GA14584@-> To: kaltheat@googlemail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which compiler compiled system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:19:10 -0000 On Mar 12, 2012, at 12:45 PM, kaltheat@googlemail.com wrote: > Is there a way to determine whether a FreeBSD-system was compiled with gcc or clang? > I thought of some libs or so that might significantly differ. It's fairly easy to determine whether assembly code was compiled with gcc or clang from idioms they use-- GCC emits .ascii for strings and then adds a trailing null; clang uses .asciz, for example. From that you can also figure out whether a particular executable or shared library was compiled with one or the other-- gcc is doing a leaf frame caller optimization, where it leave / jmp to puts() (using the stack frame allocated for main()), whereas clang is doing normal stack frame handling of %rpb and explicit return. Regards, -- -Chuck % cat h.c #include int main() { puts("Hello, world!\n"); } % gcc -S -O2 -o h-gcc.s h.c % clang -S -O2 -o h-clang.s h.c % cat h-gcc.s .cstring LC0: .ascii "Hello, world!\12\0" .text .align 4,0x90 .globl _main _main: LFB3: pushq %rbp LCFI0: movq %rsp, %rbp LCFI1: leaq LC0(%rip), %rdi leave jmp _puts LFE3: .section __TEXT,__eh_frame,coalesced,no_toc+strip_static_syms+live_support EH_frame1: .set L$set$0,LECIE1-LSCIE1 .long L$set$0 LSCIE1: .long 0x0 .byte 0x1 .ascii "zR\0" .byte 0x1 .byte 0x78 .byte 0x10 .byte 0x1 .byte 0x10 .byte 0xc .byte 0x7 .byte 0x8 .byte 0x90 .byte 0x1 .align 3 LECIE1: .globl _main.eh _main.eh: LSFDE1: .set L$set$1,LEFDE1-LASFDE1 .long L$set$1 LASFDE1: .long LASFDE1-EH_frame1 .quad LFB3-. .set L$set$2,LFE3-LFB3 .quad L$set$2 .byte 0x0 .byte 0x4 .set L$set$3,LCFI0-LFB3 .long L$set$3 .byte 0xe .byte 0x10 .byte 0x86 .byte 0x2 .byte 0x4 .set L$set$4,LCFI1-LCFI0 .long L$set$4 .byte 0xd .byte 0x6 .align 3 LEFDE1: .subsections_via_symbols % cat h-clang.s .section __TEXT,__text,regular,pure_instructions .globl _main .align 4, 0x90 _main: ## @main Leh_func_begin0: ## BB#0: pushq %rbp Ltmp0: movq %rsp, %rbp Ltmp1: leaq L_.str(%rip), %rdi callq _puts xorl %eax, %eax popq %rbp ret Leh_func_end0: .section __TEXT,__cstring,cstring_literals L_.str: ## @.str .asciz "Hello, world!\n" .section __TEXT,__eh_frame,coalesced,no_toc+strip_static_syms+live_support EH_frame0: Lsection_eh_frame0: Leh_frame_common0: Lset0 = Leh_frame_common_end0-Leh_frame_common_begin0 ## Length of Common Information Entry .long Lset0 Leh_frame_common_begin0: .long 0 ## CIE Identifier Tag .byte 1 ## DW_CIE_VERSION .asciz "zR" ## CIE Augmentation .byte 1 ## CIE Code Alignment Factor .byte 120 ## CIE Data Alignment Factor .byte 16 ## CIE Return Address Column .byte 1 ## Augmentation Size .byte 16 ## FDE Encoding = pcrel .byte 12 ## DW_CFA_def_cfa .byte 7 ## Register .byte 8 ## Offset .byte 144 ## DW_CFA_offset + Reg (16) .byte 1 ## Offset .align 3 Leh_frame_common_end0: .globl _main.eh _main.eh: Lset1 = Leh_frame_end0-Leh_frame_begin0 ## Length of Frame Information Entry .long Lset1 Leh_frame_begin0: Lset2 = Leh_frame_begin0-Leh_frame_common0 ## FDE CIE offset .long Lset2 Ltmp2: ## FDE initial location .quad Leh_func_begin0-Ltmp2 Lset3 = Leh_func_end0-Leh_func_begin0 ## FDE address range .quad Lset3 .byte 0 ## Augmentation size .byte 4 ## DW_CFA_advance_loc4 Lset4 = Ltmp0-Leh_func_begin0 .long Lset4 .byte 14 ## DW_CFA_def_cfa_offset .byte 16 ## Offset .byte 134 ## DW_CFA_offset + Reg (6) .byte 2 ## Offset .byte 4 ## DW_CFA_advance_loc4 Lset5 = Ltmp1-Ltmp0 .long Lset5 .byte 13 ## DW_CFA_def_cfa_register .byte 6 ## Register .align 3 Leh_frame_end0: .subsections_via_symbols ...and here's a disassembly of main() from gcc: _main: 0000000100000f10 pushq %rbp 0000000100000f11 movq %rsp,%rbp 0000000100000f14 leaq 0x00000039(%rip),%rdi 0000000100000f1b leave 0000000100000f1c jmp 0x100000f28 ; symbol stub for: _puts ...and clang: _main: 0000000100000f10 pushq %rbp 0000000100000f11 movq %rsp,%rbp 0000000100000f14 leaq 0x00000039(%rip),%rdi 0000000100000f1b callq 0x100000f2a ; symbol stub for: _puts 0000000100000f20 xorl %eax,%eax 0000000100000f22 popq %rbp 0000000100000f23 ret From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:29:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EC51065674 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@ShaneWare.Biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E358FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:29:28 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EACCwXk/LevdH/2dsb2JhbABDtmaCCQEBBThRCxgJEwMPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGIBbwwjUeDIgSlb4J2 Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2012 12:59:19 +1030 Message-ID: <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:57:25 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120213 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:29:29 -0000 On 12/03/2012 10:16, Da Rock wrote: > On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >>> here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv >>> stream---or radio stream for later replay? >> I've been using a BrookTree ("Haupauge WinTV") PCI card for >> capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard >> programs mplayer and mencoder. >> >> For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the >> Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also >> for radio programs? >> >> Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media >> streams. There are tools for that available. > There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and > webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another > tool to record the stream. > > And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time > and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for > this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up > someday when I have the spare time. No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought MythTV was the one to use. -- Shane Ambler FreeBSD (at) ShaneWare (dot) Biz http://ShaneWare.Biz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:45:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C651065678 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C458C8FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A525C28 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:58:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB8945C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:58:26 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:39:38 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> In-Reply-To: <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:45:12 -0000 On 03/13/12 12:27, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 12/03/2012 10:16, Da Rock wrote: >> On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >>>> here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv >>>> stream---or radio stream for later replay? >>> I've been using a BrookTree ("Haupauge WinTV") PCI card for >>> capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard >>> programs mplayer and mencoder. >>> >>> For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the >>> Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also >>> for radio programs? >>> >>> Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media >>> streams. There are tools for that available. >> There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and >> webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another >> tool to record the stream. >> >> And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time >> and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for >> this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up >> someday when I have the spare time. > > No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought > MythTV was the one to use. Pah! Too much bloat - especially for this use. A lot of setup and configuration is required, and for a one off why bother? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 03:00:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00711065672 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADA98FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2D2Soof018703; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:28:50 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-126-218.as13285.net [92.22.126.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2D2Socq018692; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:28:50 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 54B3C33C52; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:28:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:28:50 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20120313022850.GA4080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <20120312201310.GA25349@saltmine.radix.net> <4F5E5AA9.4050700@tundraware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5E5AA9.4050700@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.3-RC1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: Thomas Dickey , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:00:36 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:20:57PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > On 03/12/2012 03:13 PM, Thomas Dickey wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:19:06PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >>I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to e= dit > >>files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to ex= it > >>to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) Info= Sec > >>requirements in this regard. > >> > >>So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something= =20 > >>like > >>joe or vi to inhibit this feature? > > > >man vi (see "-S") > > >=20 > It turns out you can still work around this if your know the trick. > I am still researching this, but restricted vi appears to be compromised. >=20 >=20 Have you tried restricted vim? $ vim -Z :help restricted Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk9esOAACgkQHduKvUAgeK5WcACgo+hqrvZcufdYSsynk7c9rjLj 77sAnArJGHtD65NSxRwCyeeqOTu4URAq =3A6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 04:44:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BB91065670 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout08.t-online.de (mailout08.t-online.de [194.25.134.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8668FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd17.aul.t-online.de (fwd17.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout08.t-online.de with smtp id 1S7JMa-00028J-1p; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:29:32 +0100 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (Z6tI+TZaZh6WwRrNePj1v+Rjp4-4plhxvLEByWmJBB2rXnZV9L4qonYM2M0g4PoQ+-@[84.157.111.177]) by fwd17.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1S7JMP-08XtFA0; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:29:21 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2D4TLfn075345 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:29:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2D4TLbd075344 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:29:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:29:18 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120313042918.GV9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311164141.GA17890@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120311164141.GA17890@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: Z6tI+TZaZh6WwRrNePj1v+Rjp4-4plhxvLEByWmJBB2rXnZV9L4qonYM2M0g4PoQ+- X-TOI-MSGID: 42271c7d-1bd6-4f8b-b65d-0323d22a4102 Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:44:46 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:41:41PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around > the '# include ' line in the file handlers.c[2], then > re-start the compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's > directory). Don't re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo > your changes. If the build goes OK, issue the command 'make install > clean' from the port's directory. [2: > /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c] Been there, done that: |*** Error code 1 |mv -f .deps/wxcopy.Tpo .deps/wxcopy.Po :-\ Sabine -- Man wird hier zunehmend bizarrer. (Christian Schulz in dang) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 05:36:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B71106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F5B8FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so369539iah.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:36:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K3cSaUocXSc0l0boe0bkAh9LvW5JnAwQApMTnC8Eppw=; b=xR4Y5RKUlYPhO2kuc9HzGukU7TkzeGnBTaaFq2Ulq6MQJ4f9JE7GHjsNr5RS6x79vn 71O1dku+GSi9rFIFOvxWydXzTqz8HmtjeeKJ+Es9MXrhNRSDo+prRuw5e96irqElrg+h +IUHcVYtzX+zsn0R+CEVG0YsWnqPL406gODhDMjbelLjAoGGjsv8oT5fNC4GKO8voKJX Ouz1TBtbuK/RGOuk9R3iyIEacj+4MfwJDzYJg3dxURWW3S8OCHmaPw+vyaB5UyARu3l0 xE4a0rUZ1p6P5pv7bNBOhd5olEMMTIGL/lIAkXRl7ZVP8icmdNE0VrV0CHCSCpNihf5J QeRw== Received: by 10.182.225.69 with SMTP id ri5mr10313841obc.74.1331617009596; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9sm23361250obl.21.2012.03.12.22.36.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5EDE06.60302@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:41:26 -0700 From: "Edward M." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120225 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201203130033.q2D0XUwg048729@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201203130033.q2D0XUwg048729@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:36:50 -0000 On 03/12/2012 05:33 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 12 17:46:04 2012 >> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:47:59 -0700 >> From: "Edward M." >> To: Polytropon >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? >> >> On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: >>>> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>>>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like >>>>> >>>>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe >>>> I think this would not let the user to login,etc >>> I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, >>> and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred >>> to the login shell, which is the program specified in the >>> "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is >>> login supposed to know if the program specified in this >>> field is actually a dialog shell? >>> >>> From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in >>> login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default >>> binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if >>> it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability >>> of performing a login. >>> >>> >>> >> Now i gotta try this out. Off to >> hosed my system. > If other configuration is set up right (e.g. /etc/shells), you can name > *any* executable as the 'shell' field in /etc/passwd, and have it work. > > "Long, long, ago", I used this for client 'on demand' system back-up. They > just put the tape in the drive, and logged in as the 'backup' user. > > > *HOWEVER* this is -not- a solution for the OP's "problem", as a skilled, > _malicious_, user can change, say, vi(1)'s idea of what executable it > should invoke when a '!', or '!!' command is issued. I tried it out of curiosity to see if it was possible to login in joe, by the way the OS was configure. However my knowledge is not advance to continue, got stock on the message cannot not find "*-joerc" :-) Regards Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 06:39:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD39106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D714F8FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so234594yhg.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:39:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sE3jNQCFy/X4/XvSCev6wx7Ph64oiVW0Hqn7oUEYY24=; b=CFrmTHfHJQcCjKwGbiqt+KgwO0a1tgPEEIyxNjJrMRjmlhS9iMg9YSMvBGVyYbWbob CLQCx5UwOxKkKFJMk+sS4z3gCTWhym9+26krcUXuEQxqyBEs7Qk7IkgHb5fzBPaqj382 BrZh3ZhftxAoQUgg44OehLWBQNrtPOxX9u4tpdXdUE5EHBAAu8s+nRfT3grPEPl34xlL fZqoeE42qcuzkl/ta1rBQ0yVHAXlfPFr+rNthUfQ/ArfLlCH865V9NfwGjPj4Ii/WmJt Ea3fezDvOzLYMk9We/PFHLWEJwvcFIxPHIutGeoHG9IWp86qEgSMJ+iORanOTT1BSaeL Dt3A== Received: by 10.182.222.74 with SMTP id qk10mr10413143obc.75.1331620791298; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h7sm7571922oeh.9.2012.03.12.23.39.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5EEBB4.1080608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:39:48 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:39:52 -0000 On 3/12/2012 5:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: >> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like >>> >>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe >> >> >> I think this would not let the user to login,etc > > I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, > and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred > to the login shell, which is the program specified in the > "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is > login supposed to know if the program specified in this > field is actually a dialog shell? > >> From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in > login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default > binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if > it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability > of performing a login. > > > Are they logging in from the console or from ssh? If it's from a console, I'd send them directly into a jail with limited file system access, so that excecutables don't matter. If it's from ssh, I'd do the same thing. Assume they can break out of the editor or that something will happen. Make it minimalist about what they can do. Use the /rescue/vi in an empty jail with the files available. Don't think about changing editors, change the system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 06:49:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0566106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7313B8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so3939126wib.13 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kzvqCUpO/UxdkEXrKjvXolu1HCB6Rl+u4OXTG0lfd9g=; b=iu1QxHqe8ez6kdoOI3YV1ohm6rQL+CrnG2aaPkP+OGFaLiln4AJHj58YVW9Sc0mcKP oPGTL5fyw89r436V75eh0qvfO3TMET+L4joM0YAxGIhIqvCDRCJD9f1wCvuGntoQDiPE 07Vf6Jw+PAmlqlMUINRsTNeVPqwcj5zxlM6WBkrnmKYb0o5OOUsWdYyBi2GVaZeZsEQa CK3YkkvUaQgL8UKrh7lvp1aTheU5UGXt3l7eNKw61yyhFFBw4e54G02OA3m04w53+ITj D359u8TBqLqeb2AO5D0z6bu/DbFt5pjamPupOfCLBdkttabQVbvDEARXFcr7+SGnqxmp STHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr4519384wib.7.1331621390426; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.230.33 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: /usr/lib32 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:49:52 -0000 Hi, I have four files in /usr/lib32 - libc.so.7, libcrypt.so.5, librt.so.1, libthr.so.3 that are 444 root. Seems like i am unable to change permissions or remove... any idea why? or really, how to delete those files. it's an amd64 machine. Thanks, Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 07:02:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0865D1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F298FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so234357wer.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BtqHRR1f5vB5uHufNjMUsvXf1ax/I1zmtx7kBLVKlmY=; b=YiOSOPk0Jcvi+A+c4JdHiyOwfR3xsqPM2RNc0YRnjxa4J4Oo8T7eF8kLPrqo7eDl6b l9c+vRuEaEcv6NKUe7hJRl36z7xdzuEa7Vt+b277IEEaq77OL2DILGHHnlLTZT38HZCL GI+uFyYbitQJyxuLRRW0OLUD3UiPbqH1Iu30PQC5LD3DW4304M2EhSHrYLrhaPzYk0tO UNVIk93Z1tnPbCqoMsjQo6VNLe5AECrCD7Y3ZyNgHg3aSekfsclAqVtcUvdWERRDDHP0 1HR3lu53PnxaDRzvKAjVerA8EH5WruYbfI6zQB4JDlTgM1kGCTMMfTbld5MlOdltFSqB sdxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr4592201wib.7.1331622130480; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.230.33 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:02:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:02:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: /usr/lib32 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:02:12 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > Hi, > > > I have four files in /usr/lib32 - libc.so.7, libcrypt.so.5, librt.so.1, > libthr.so.3 that are 444 root. Seems like i am unable to change permissions > or remove... any idea why? or really, how to delete those files. it's an > amd64 machine. > > Thanks, > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > > oops, duh sorry it's late. figured it out. :) chflags noschg Thanks Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 07:06:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555C5106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155048FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE188240; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:06:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2D76Vsx005693; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:06:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:06:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Waitman Gobble Message-Id: <20120313080631.1d7a32ac.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/lib32 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:06:35 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:50 -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote: > Hi, > > > I have four files in /usr/lib32 - libc.so.7, libcrypt.so.5, librt.so.1, > libthr.so.3 that are 444 root. Seems like i am unable to change permissions > or remove... any idea why? or really, how to delete those files. it's an > amd64 machine. I'm on i386 here, so I can't check, but: See if the files have additional flags set, especially the "system immutable" flag (schg): # ls -lo /usr/lib32 If neccessary, use: # chflags noschg /usr/lib32/* and continue trying to change permissions or remove the files in that directory. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 07:23:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF0D106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A108FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so3967775wib.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:23:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=urFeqJyQFfhkhkgPxdxO/xEtkzXKRwCAwXOovvEyyMw=; b=dve9tNqcXRgKwhudBilRcZdZFkpwC0WPUbifVDQLQl2scTtXtc7T6JjGPOLUA5t6G5 WS8aMnScoMP4fwj/G338oWFQ1YWqnbz6WuXlIXP8QuVrEhMUURKfbJv7BxGNW3DjPVK8 XGkekoZlDxrVoE8XUFtYZ0WAHvw4ci9rqPC4DhfpaWk9RBtNAUt+6bnQolv7AyL6e+D7 CTvQrNW3YKPZwhv9xSXfPjBl+SnBV4N9tY5LQ4oVFR+EF0tQQubYlGCl4HjW2pVNYqFU epqCfwVebaXdXDo4IPlu8DKLdiSR8iNkldbQhAaDs8JR73DO9J0V1va/n1C3NIJiylVG AEvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.24.66 with SMTP id s2mr4725950wif.7.1331623384233; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.230.33 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:23:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120313080631.1d7a32ac.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120313080631.1d7a32ac.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:23:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: /usr/lib32 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:23:05 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:50 -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > I have four files in /usr/lib32 - libc.so.7, libcrypt.so.5, librt.so.1, > > libthr.so.3 that are 444 root. Seems like i am unable to change > permissions > > or remove... any idea why? or really, how to delete those files. it's an > > amd64 machine. > > I'm on i386 here, so I can't check, but: > > See if the files have additional flags set, especially > the "system immutable" flag (schg): > > # ls -lo /usr/lib32 > > If neccessary, use: > > # chflags noschg /usr/lib32/* > > and continue trying to change permissions or remove the > files in that directory. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > cool, thank you. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 07:58:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF66B106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95298FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Mcd-0002GY-Gn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:58:19 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:58:19 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:58:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: lost+found dir placement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:58:24 -0000 Hi, Each fs should have its own lost+found directory. It is used by fsck for placing recovered corrupted fs files in there. This implies the dir must have already existed (it may not be mounted ad hoc e.g. at boot time, during fs recovery). In FreeBSD 9, I found lost+found dir under /mnt. This is incorrect - /mnt is defined under all standards (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, Unix directory structure) as "contains filesystem mount points". So, lost+found dir should exist under root dir as /lost+found. Any comments before I file a PR request ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:08:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6E3106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9256D8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhq7 with SMTP id hq7so271326wib.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4kAb5guVWQ1B2OC5aNq5pPy0MfEfZZxPcz6lMujcC4k=; b=M3IjLB4FNWpZ5qCp9Q3rjLikhgvbl0r7FXDr31gKIIcHbPUaE3yS7njXbmgi9Nw8dx z8DxDHde6elATM9pAFi+PJUcUNVE6UmmMHOaTRRUDIYNPxypXrKEOAkCW4oZ7b5OJS2n lCXSRV+2FvQoIJfXzf8dKhZasHdJV20H1UWG2CAvId28gINq7fWST/ZBQhOtaE0uloGZ IPT4iAhdJN3O+oBAQdshUusrGWEUVHOIynwIbOjdlApsnwxAGeqlKFu3bkpSeMadLvdX juEuvrrXwbfx8RnoG6gNPNnwBcXm06UijiWQBbR5DczN20j3Ql/ggfyteLwr/Mmu0yL5 iePw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.80.40 with SMTP id o8mr4994865wix.10.1331626135515; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.102.78 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:08:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:08:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: jb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost+found dir placement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:08:57 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:58 AM, jb wrote: > Hi, > > Each fs should have its own lost+found directory. > It is used by fsck for placing recovered corrupted fs files in there. > This implies the dir must have already existed (it may not be mounted ad > hoc > e.g. at boot time, during fs recovery). > > In FreeBSD 9, I found lost+found dir under /mnt. > This is incorrect - /mnt is defined under all standards (Filesystem > Hierarchy > Standard, Unix directory structure) as "contains filesystem mount points". > > So, lost+found dir should exist under root dir as /lost+found. > > Any comments before I file a PR request ? > jb > The directory is created in the top of the filesystem, so you should check what is mounted on /mnt. Filesystem Hierarchy Standard -- This is a Linux standard. For info on FreeBSD hierarchy see man hier(7) -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:09:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7FD106564A; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6888FC18; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hq7so271326wib.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:09:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jk4Ow5N2ZlVx9hgyWU64dtXItKBPMK2AoLG2CuJKFYg=; b=RpCj6W6Ajl3J5ZqUNYDk+SWWCwei9a6EDi2DjWw9HnIoUd7cHABtkBX4RQGByuyTDP l29qUV1KUcd7vvadwBScB3/eSUZ9GWPbp6GKO/Tk4ry1HKiLegzV23pcRl+mxYRtxOrG xwqyiLiAr+qiYAOOT2KtdmbVJNjzQdYACkJYcOK/xAICfuFciaebBHxb/Sy6j8oGn2KD 79vGS6vJnJT04sw9luCH5sDdKzE+MnWj8KAXBbPsyasyxEoJw17w5jClRVXEr40dXMh/ wniVE9IxrjvSMSbxjlpAUDPc4j14bq2/mA6w7zKyXAJSkIwCRzgtyyy9bbKf0DfD0smz Sshg== Received: by 10.180.19.37 with SMTP id b5mr5032905wie.9.1331626160824; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (43-91-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net. [95.132.91.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm34199272wia.5.2012.03.13.01.09.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:09:14 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:09:21 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/03/2012 14:07, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> What should I blame now? Is it some programming error or should I >> continue with testing/changing motherboard and cpu? > > Instability that appears spontaneously (and especially if it persists > across system updates) is almost always caused by hardware problems. > So, yes, carry on swapping out components until you can isolate where > the problem is. > > Some common hardware problems which might result in the problems you've > seen: > > * PSU going flakey. If you have the right measuring equipment, this > is pretty easy to detect by looking at the output voltages -- if > they've drifted out of spec, or if you've got mains frequency > jitter leaking through then its no wonder your system crashes. Sensors report everything is good. > * Similarly, if the crashing is associated with system load, > (particularly at startup, when things are happening like disks > spinning up) this can indicate a power supply fading under load. > That can happen due to age, or because you've been adding extra > hardware and haven't considered the power requirements. The only load I know to cause sure lockup in some hours is memcached. Right now project is migrated to redis and machines survives for two weeks. Most common problem for lockup is ECC error. > * The other reason for crashing under load is overheating. > Sometimes this can be cured easily by cleaning dust out of vents > and heat-sinks. Check too for fans either seized or running > slowly. Sensors reports normal temperature. > * You may need to clean off any old heat-sink compound and re-apply > a fresh layer, especially if you've taken CPU coolers off at > some point. > > * There's also the old capacitor problem: electrolytic capacitors > have a failure mode that generates some positive pressure inside > them. This is detectable by the end of the capacitor being bowed > out, rather than slightly concave. (Generally this means a new > motherboard, although I've heard of people being able to solder in > replacements successfully.) It's fully serviced SuperMicro server without any additional problems. > Other than that, try disconnecting and reconnecting peripherals like > disks or DVDs and so forth in various combinations to test if that > improves system stability. One faulty component can knock the whole > machine over. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. 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[95.132.91.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jc4sm30058537bkc.7.2012.03.13.01.10.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F010D.20507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:10:53 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:10:59 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: >> I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After >> upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory >> was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot. >> > > So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test. It doesn't mean it's not > the culprit. Way too many false negatives from those things. True. First server was stacked with Kingston memory, and now I moved to Hynix. And is still gives me sometimes ECC errors. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:11:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428B21065672 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B0B8FC21 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB731E1BA; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:11:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2D8BfMp005939; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:11:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:11:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20120313091141.11263aeb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost+found dir placement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:11:45 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:58:09 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Hi, > > Each fs should have its own lost+found directory. > It is used by fsck for placing recovered corrupted fs files in there. Correct. > This implies the dir must have already existed (it may not be mounted ad hoc > e.g. at boot time, during fs recovery). No. This implication does not exist. If I read /usr/src/sbin/fsck_ffs/dir.c correctly, the lost+found/ directory will be created by fsck if it is required and _not_ present. It will do so on a inode based method (instead of utilizing a file system oriented call to make a directory). This is a requirement because (as you correctly mentioned) the partition checked will not be writable (or even be mounted), so mkdir() and related fs functions cannot be used. Also see an evidence for that idea in "man fsck_ffs". > In FreeBSD 9, I found lost+found dir under /mnt. > This is incorrect - /mnt is defined under all standards (Filesystem Hierarchy > Standard, Unix directory structure) as "contains filesystem mount points". According to "man hier" (mandatory for interpreting the file system hierarchy on FreeBSD) this your assumption sounds correct: /mnt is explained to be an "empty directory commonly used by system administrators as a temporary mount point", so having a lost+found/ directory in there doesn't seem to have any purpose and looks wrong. > So, lost+found dir should exist under root dir as /lost+found. Correct. It will be assigned to the results of possible recoveries of lost data of the / partition correctly. > Any comments before I file a PR request ? If this directory has been created by the installation process, I think you should. Maybe you verify the issue on the freebsd-fs@ list? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[95.132.91.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jc4sm30065607bkc.7.2012.03.13.01.12.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F0165.8050802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:12:21 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E7D44.9000101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5E7D44.9000101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:12:28 -0000 Da Rock wrote: >>> I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After >>> upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. >>> Memory >>> was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another >>> reboot. >>> >> So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test. It doesn't mean it's >> not >> the culprit. Way too many false negatives from those things. >> > Overnight soak test with memtest possible? I'm currently thinking of moving projects from this server to get to it more closely. I can't take server down for so long. But it survives an hour in memtest. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:24:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B68A106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64148FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q2D8Pa6Y053252; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:25:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:25:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201203130825.q2D8Pa6Y053252@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jb.1234abcd@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: lost+found dir placement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:24:23 -0000 jb wrote: > > Hi, > > Each fs should have its own lost+found directory. > It is used by fsck for placing recovered corrupted fs files in there. > This implies the dir must have already existed (it may not be mounted ad hoc > e.g. at boot time, during fs recovery). > > In FreeBSD 9, I found lost+found dir under /mnt. > This is incorrect - /mnt is defined under all standards (Filesystem Hierarchy > Standard, Unix directory structure) as "contains filesystem mount points". > > So, lost+found dir should exist under root dir as /lost+found. Do you have a filesystem mounted on /mnt? > > Any comments before I file a PR request ? The fsck_ffs manpage says that 'lost+found' is _created_ *when*needed*, in the root of a filesystem, if not already present. The presense of /mnt/lost+found is _not_ an error. just a surperfluous file that ended up there 'somehow'. *IF* you're going to file a PR, it should be for the filesystem initialization process -- which "should" (a) create the lost+found directory, (b) create some 'reasonable' number of files in that directory, and (c) then delete all those files. This ensures that the directory exists and has disk-space allocated for a 'reasonable' number of 'recovered' file entries. The existing fsck_ffs has a catastrophic failure mode if there is no space on the disk for the lost+found directory to grow to acomodate the recovered file entries. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:39:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60324106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1AE8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2D8d6SM018052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:39:07 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2D8d6SM018052 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q2D8d6SM018052; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:38:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Volodymyr Kostyrko References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCB42FF58531CC39D5BC9B643" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:39:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCB42FF58531CC39D5BC9B643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/03/2012 08:09, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > The only load I know to cause sure lockup in some hours is memcached. > Right now project is migrated to redis and machines survives for two > weeks. Most common problem for lockup is ECC error. I see. That puts a different complexion on things. Although it is application specific it doesn't rule out hardware problems. In fact, given the nature of the error -- ECC problems -- it pretty much nails it as something wrong with the RAM in that machine. Given that memtest86 doesn't show any problems, and you can run a similar workload with different software it suggests that you have a memory stick (or sticks) that are marginal. Something like extra heat due to higher rates of memory accesses from a particular application could be tipping it over the edge into failure. The 'marginal' behaviour need not be a fault in the memory stick per se. It could simply be the particular characteristics of the memory you have installed not being exactly compatible with your motherboard. In theory the memory conforming to a particular standard should avoid this sort of problem, but this is unfortunately not completely infallible. Swapping out memory sticks for an equivalent specification from a different manufacturer should give good results. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[95.132.91.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r14sm11513801bkv.11.2012.03.13.01.59.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:59:54 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:00:02 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> The only load I know to cause sure lockup in some hours is memcached. >> Right now project is migrated to redis and machines survives for two >> weeks. Most common problem for lockup is ECC error. > > I see. That puts a different complexion on things. Although it is > application specific it doesn't rule out hardware problems. In fact, > given the nature of the error -- ECC problems -- it pretty much nails it > as something wrong with the RAM in that machine. > > Given that memtest86 doesn't show any problems, and you can run a > similar workload with different software it suggests that you have a > memory stick (or sticks) that are marginal. Something like extra heat > due to higher rates of memory accesses from a particular application > could be tipping it over the edge into failure. > > The 'marginal' behaviour need not be a fault in the memory stick per se. > It could simply be the particular characteristics of the memory you > have installed not being exactly compatible with your motherboard. In > theory the memory conforming to a particular standard should avoid this > sort of problem, but this is unfortunately not completely infallible. > Swapping out memory sticks for an equivalent specification from a > different manufacturer should give good results. I already moved from Kingston to Hynix with no luck. Next guess points is motherboard problem (as memory is separated between processors) or processor problem. I'll gonna pop one processor out Leaving all memory on another one. The only other weird thing about this server is: dev.cpu.0.temperature: 37,0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37,0C dev.cpu.2.temperature: 35,0C dev.cpu.3.temperature: 35,0C dev.cpu.4.temperature: 43,0C dev.cpu.5.temperature: 43,0C dev.cpu.6.temperature: 38,0C dev.cpu.7.temperature: 38,0C dev.cpu.8.temperature: 38,0C dev.cpu.9.temperature: 38,0C dev.cpu.10.temperature: 37,0C dev.cpu.11.temperature: 37,0C dev.cpu.12.temperature: 33,0C dev.cpu.13.temperature: 33,0C dev.cpu.14.temperature: 34,0C dev.cpu.15.temperature: 34,0C And it's consistent - cores 4 and 5 always are hotter then any other. This can be something with scheduler, however this started before any actual load. Though numbers are normal I had never seen something alike... -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 09:06:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C924106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E7B8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so353767yhg.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zDOwIoPjVK45ZW8xFOO0/+BPXAWJVG5zcSrSproA2XE=; b=FprGkRzL1XIetjy9s8afHIi4B9JuxO/qBnZn0SqE2Q62W7CmaE+b+Oy+NYsmyVhBeM KVResk7exN1l3jlR4pHc5lXfngL6BV9E5MaFRtJoQTLdTZG6uUYan+I8wEPK6fLxIg9G Ryx5BnRKhN5rwgAaFTh6PWvOan0+Pwi/LybFDFmlSTPIQgqqJM/UnbRx+fR6MsCK03rr 3xNtsUOMe8T/xflnOBRswkcOiN/u/lu5tu0fw5k5mvu6mzaHAaa/ef0Sajk1ByAGoBih Lp3c7yWdnmIqrD9YerKFhVMbVlfgfAdY6DXmb+LCfbDsZjE4IlK0nRETSX+dmP9gmDw/ NWOw== Received: by 10.60.28.137 with SMTP id b9mr10444928oeh.57.1331629590557; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm25236820obo.2.2012.03.13.02.06.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F0F2C.7060800@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:11:08 -0700 From: "Edward M." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120225 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:06:31 -0000 On 03/13/2012 01:59 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > I already moved from Kingston to Hynix with no luck. Next guess points > is motherboard problem (as memory is separated between processors) or > processor problem. I'll gonna pop one processor out Leaving all memory > on another one. I had a motherboard that was also rebooting constantly, it turned out, it was suffering from capacitor plague. I suggest to inspect each capacitor for any signs of leak and for broken traces. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 09:14:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B953B1065673 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D878FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCCE5C2E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:27:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E2445C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:27:30 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F5F0E99.8060908@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:08:41 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> <4F5F0F2C.7060800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F0F2C.7060800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:14:00 -0000 On 03/13/12 19:11, Edward M. wrote: > On 03/13/2012 01:59 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> I already moved from Kingston to Hynix with no luck. Next guess >> points is motherboard problem (as memory is separated between >> processors) or processor problem. I'll gonna pop one processor out >> Leaving all memory on another one. > > > I had a motherboard that was also rebooting constantly, it turned > out, it was suffering from capacitor plague. > I suggest to inspect each capacitor for any signs of leak and for > broken traces. I have to agree. I've seen this behaviour also on other systems and OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 09:52:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A5A106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A183C8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nannerl.adm.ahk.nl ([145.102.113.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2D9gnMM006589 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:42:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: FBSD UG In-Reply-To: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:38:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7BAC356B-A192-40B0-93C0-5190CA5CAAC4@rgbaz.eu> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:52:34 -0000 doesn't VLC do that too? On 11 mrt 2012, at 21:28, Gary Kline wrote: > guys, >=20 > i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e > excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. >=20 > here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or > radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? >=20 > gray >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service = Unix > Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc > The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 10:02:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACE31065678 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031B88FC1D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S7OYq-0002PH-6U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:02:32 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:02:32 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:02:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <201203130825.q2D8Pa6Y053252@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: lost+found dir placement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:02:34 -0000 Robert Bonomi mail.r-bonomi.com> writes: > ... > The fsck_ffs manpage says that 'lost+found' is _created_ *when*needed*, > in the root of a filesystem, if not already present. > > The presense of /mnt/lost+found is _not_ an error. just a surperfluous > file that ended up there 'somehow'. > ... This worried me. And still does ... > *IF* you're going to file a PR, it should be for the filesystem > initialization process -- which "should" (a) create the lost+found > directory, (b) create some 'reasonable' number of files in that directory, > and (c) then delete all those files. This ensures that the directory > exists and has disk-space allocated for a 'reasonable' number of > 'recovered' file entries. > That's perhaps why under Linux they have special mklost+found entry ? > The existing fsck_ffs has a catastrophic failure mode if there is no > space on the disk for the lost+found directory to grow to acomodate > the recovered file entries. > I was surprised to find empty lost+found dir in /mnt. drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 May 5 2011 lost+found That's why I jumped a bit. Few days ago, after clean reboot to single user mode, I tested fsck manually on SUJ fs and found things that seemed to be questionable (I posted it on current@ list, if you want to take a look). So, it must have happened during that time, because as I said I did not have any forced fsck run at boot times, and I almost swear I did not have this lost+found dir in /mnt before. I will take a look at source code of fsck* entries and perhaps find a clue. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 10:24:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B1B106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B253E8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2DAOmRc019714 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:24:48 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2DAOmRc019714 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q2DAOmRc019714; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F5F2068.8050101@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:24:40 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Volodymyr Kostyrko References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9FD25AEAC04049173577E352" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:24:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9FD25AEAC04049173577E352 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/03/2012 08:59, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > The only other weird thing about this server is: >=20 > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 37,0C > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37,0C > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 35,0C > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 35,0C > dev.cpu.4.temperature: 43,0C > dev.cpu.5.temperature: 43,0C > dev.cpu.6.temperature: 38,0C > dev.cpu.7.temperature: 38,0C > dev.cpu.8.temperature: 38,0C > dev.cpu.9.temperature: 38,0C > dev.cpu.10.temperature: 37,0C > dev.cpu.11.temperature: 37,0C > dev.cpu.12.temperature: 33,0C > dev.cpu.13.temperature: 33,0C > dev.cpu.14.temperature: 34,0C > dev.cpu.15.temperature: 34,0C >=20 > And it's consistent - cores 4 and 5 always are hotter then any other. > This can be something with scheduler, however this started before any > actual load. Though numbers are normal I had never seen something alike= =2E.. Two cores per socket, and 8 sockets on the board? If so, that looks absolutely fine to me. The average temperature is 36.8C but 43.0C is still well within spec. That difference of just over 6 degrees is not really significant and probably entirely due to different airflow patterns over the different CPU sockets. If you swap the CPU package in that socket with one of the other ones, you'll find the hot spot stays put. You might be able to even things out by rerouteing cables, but really it's not worth the hassle and won't make any perceptible difference to performance. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[95.132.91.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5sm307609bke.9.2012.03.13.03.28.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F214A.6070509@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:28:26 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> <4F5F2068.8050101@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5F2068.8050101@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:28:32 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 13/03/2012 08:59, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> The only other weird thing about this server is: >> >> dev.cpu.0.temperature: 37,0C >> dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37,0C >> dev.cpu.2.temperature: 35,0C >> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 35,0C >> dev.cpu.4.temperature: 43,0C >> dev.cpu.5.temperature: 43,0C >> dev.cpu.6.temperature: 38,0C >> dev.cpu.7.temperature: 38,0C >> dev.cpu.8.temperature: 38,0C >> dev.cpu.9.temperature: 38,0C >> dev.cpu.10.temperature: 37,0C >> dev.cpu.11.temperature: 37,0C >> dev.cpu.12.temperature: 33,0C >> dev.cpu.13.temperature: 33,0C >> dev.cpu.14.temperature: 34,0C >> dev.cpu.15.temperature: 34,0C >> >> And it's consistent - cores 4 and 5 always are hotter then any other. >> This can be something with scheduler, however this started before any >> actual load. Though numbers are normal I had never seen something alike... > > Two cores per socket, and 8 sockets on the board? If so, that looks > absolutely fine to me. The average temperature is 36.8C but 43.0C is > still well within spec. That difference of just over 6 degrees is not > really significant and probably entirely due to different airflow > patterns over the different CPU sockets. If you swap the CPU package in > that socket with one of the other ones, you'll find the hot spot stays > put. You might be able to even things out by rerouteing cables, but > really it's not worth the hassle and won't make any perceptible > difference to performance. Nope: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5620 @ 2.40GHz (2394.05-MHz K8-class CPU) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads So the difference is about one physical core with two SMT threads. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 10:32:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A37E106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2199D8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2DAWDEM019874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:32:13 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2DAWDEM019874 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1331634733; bh=ym5jYKL2o/F+FhHaYdqtTN0eqd4v/xT63I+juQM7XeQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=hHNW9gzLDccNF7Vbk43bItesB9tZb90Fs2NtZeAjLtMoL96tUDkW+kQksyBuNOgHE wtRXE86ue7yE1QcVloIqF1K3FcMXuEK37dzMN83s9h2bpCG+qv0DsMQMmT5+xEDiu7 cp0cb1BVvJcNk8PxuFXQSjaMq9j5nsb0bMsF/A0c= Message-ID: <4F5F222D.6030103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:32:13 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> <4F5F0F2C.7060800@gmail.com> <4F5F0E99.8060908@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5F0E99.8060908@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig011FE37F96BB133549FD5944" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:32:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig011FE37F96BB133549FD5944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/03/2012 09:08, Da Rock wrote: > On 03/13/12 19:11, Edward M. wrote: >> On 03/13/2012 01:59 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >>> I already moved from Kingston to Hynix with no luck. Next guess >>> points is motherboard problem (as memory is separated between >>> processors) or processor problem. I'll gonna pop one processor out >>> Leaving all memory on another one.=20 >> I had a motherboard that was also rebooting constantly, it turned >> out, it was suffering from capacitor plague. >> I suggest to inspect each capacitor for any signs of leak and for >> broken traces. > I have to agree. I've seen this behaviour also on other systems and OS.= Yes. A replacement motherboard would be my next step too. While bad capacitors are a fairly common cause, it can be due to other reasons: a crack in one of the traces or a dry-soldered joint that breaks electrical connection because of the effects of thermal expansion, or even the extra vibration when the fans go to full power or even when there is a lot of disk IO activity. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig011FE37F96BB133549FD5944 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9fIi0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxQeACfVij0fr21o9Nx2pVXJT/QMbVw eGIAn08Tgj82l8s6ALfLpAiIYkDxWpdY =Ml1A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig011FE37F96BB133549FD5944-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 10:40:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610FC106568E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36C68FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2DAefAt020030 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:40:41 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2DAefAt020030 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q2DAefAt020030; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F5F2429.5060502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:40:41 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Volodymyr Kostyrko References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5E2ADB.6020104@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F00AA.1060008@gmail.com> <4F5F07A3.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F0C8A.7090203@gmail.com> <4F5F2068.8050101@FreeBSD.org> <4F5F214A.6070509@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F214A.6070509@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig31502CA6E5312FDCA997BCEC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:40:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig31502CA6E5312FDCA997BCEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/03/2012 10:28, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 13/03/2012 08:59, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >>> The only other weird thing about this server is: >>> >>> dev.cpu.0.temperature: 37,0C >>> dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37,0C >>> dev.cpu.2.temperature: 35,0C >>> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 35,0C >>> dev.cpu.4.temperature: 43,0C >>> dev.cpu.5.temperature: 43,0C >>> dev.cpu.6.temperature: 38,0C >>> dev.cpu.7.temperature: 38,0C >>> dev.cpu.8.temperature: 38,0C >>> dev.cpu.9.temperature: 38,0C >>> dev.cpu.10.temperature: 37,0C >>> dev.cpu.11.temperature: 37,0C >>> dev.cpu.12.temperature: 33,0C >>> dev.cpu.13.temperature: 33,0C >>> dev.cpu.14.temperature: 34,0C >>> dev.cpu.15.temperature: 34,0C >>> >>> And it's consistent - cores 4 and 5 always are hotter then any other.= >>> This can be something with scheduler, however this started before any= >>> actual load. Though numbers are normal I had never seen something >>> alike... >> >> Two cores per socket, and 8 sockets on the board? If so, that looks >> absolutely fine to me. The average temperature is 36.8C but 43.0C is >> still well within spec. That difference of just over 6 degrees is not= >> really significant and probably entirely due to different airflow >> patterns over the different CPU sockets. If you swap the CPU package = in >> that socket with one of the other ones, you'll find the hot spot stays= >> put. You might be able to even things out by rerouteing cables, but >> really it's not worth the hassle and won't make any perceptible >> difference to performance. >=20 > Nope: >=20 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5620 @ 2.40GHz (2394.05-MHz > K8-class CPU) > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads >=20 > So the difference is about one physical core with two SMT threads. >=20 Which explains why the numbers go in pairs -- there's only 8 physical cor= es. Even so, I don't think there's any great problem there. Different cores in the same package can have different temperatures -- that's perfectly normal, and due to the physical properties of the CPU package and the local environment rather than any difference in processing load between cores. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig31502CA6E5312FDCA997BCEC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9fJCkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxATQCeOoeUvTKoiUOwbtO57CHbkCSN cuEAnivdZ7iPwhEs8+WGh8vfO9UC8w0S =nw7p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig31502CA6E5312FDCA997BCEC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:18:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D09106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA58FC18 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:18:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=0lzXu+iGjfR1NmE7AiR4YauBTGcIvTE7LvAcmm9FCj4=; b=Sde5nCUy67zbPulL8W8oYxGsrvVomHdmKgpOlkHyKSKNBQPFhX9t6JkJcG3KS4ktu6q25qYXq1phwnFcpIA8UDqlhF9uuWT50DLBgoYOv4IFzOEML5ec4ydhanwTzqzQFZnr02StZOIabnVMuhDt92iWmh5F5ApVeEBPr20hngQ= Received: from [192.168.1.107] ([120.29.64.34]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:17:41 -0700 Message-ID: <4F5F3AE0.4020101@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:17:36 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson References: <4F5E83A2.5000809@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F5E83A2.5000809@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2012 12:17:41.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[49D64D00:01CD0113] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Jail and questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:18:47 -0000 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list > > I've setup a 32-bit jail on amd64 freebsd 8.2-stable. > > It works, sort of, but when i run portsnap extract in the jail it say > > Building new INDEX files... make_index: fopen(/dev/stdin): No such file > or directory > > #ls /dev > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 6 Mar 02:56 log -> /var/run/log > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 76 12 Mar 23:09 null > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 10 Mar 03:01 stderr > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1360 7 Mar 04:44 stdout > > Where is stdin? > > or running #ps ps: /boot/kernel/kernel: No such file or directory > > Jails don't boot the host so they don't need /boot directory. I would say you have created the jail directory tree incorrectly. Give the qjail port a try for simply jail creation and admin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:44:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7DF106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6AE8FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D184D1EB34; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:44:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2DCinNl001900; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:44:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:44:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20120313134449.64d1ad61.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201203130825.q2D8Pa6Y053252@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost+found dir placement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:44:52 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:02:16 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Robert Bonomi mail.r-bonomi.com> writes: > > > ... > > The fsck_ffs manpage says that 'lost+found' is _created_ *when*needed*, > > in the root of a filesystem, if not already present. > > > > The presense of /mnt/lost+found is _not_ an error. just a surperfluous > > file that ended up there 'somehow'. > > ... > > This worried me. And still does ... How "clean" is your installation? If you have had mounted some UFS file system in /mnt that has undergone a fsck check where the creation of lost+found had been neccessary... no wait, it would be on that partition then. If this directory entry is present in /mnt which is supposed to be empty by default, e. g. if "mount" doesn't show something actually mounted on /mnt, then I think you should delete the directory entry. Just imagine the "fun" that could happen if you mount something to /mnt... However, do you remember _what_ created lost+found in /mnt? > > *IF* you're going to file a PR, it should be for the filesystem > > initialization process -- which "should" (a) create the lost+found > > directory, (b) create some 'reasonable' number of files in that directory, > > and (c) then delete all those files. This ensures that the directory > > exists and has disk-space allocated for a 'reasonable' number of > > 'recovered' file entries. > > > > That's perhaps why under Linux they have special mklost+found entry ? Nothing new. In fact, I remember that my WEGA (UNIX system III derivate) mentiones a command that would create the lost+found directory, mklf or createlf... as a binary. > > The existing fsck_ffs has a catastrophic failure mode if there is no > > space on the disk for the lost+found directory to grow to acomodate > > the recovered file entries. > > > > I was surprised to find empty lost+found dir in /mnt. > drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 May 5 2011 lost+found > That's why I jumped a bit. It's fully unsurprising to be surprised here. :-) > Few days ago, after clean reboot to single user mode, I tested fsck manually > on SUJ fs and found things that seemed to be questionable (I posted it on > current@ list, if you want to take a look). > > So, it must have happened during that time, because as I said I did not have > any forced fsck run at boot times, and I almost swear I did not have this > lost+found dir in /mnt before. Possible, but in a normal case, lost+found is tied to a partition (and per implication to a mountpoint). The mountpoint, if _not_ in use, should be empty. > I will take a look at source code of fsck* entries and perhaps find a clue. I posted the file name where you can find the handling of the creation of lost+found. Just search for this string and you'll find the corresponding section easily. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:02:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E931065670 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from legolas@legolasweb.nl) Received: from smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF598FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.133] (helo=smtp2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Qir-0001ne-KC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:21:01 +0100 Received: from 5357e32a.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.227.42] helo=homey.local) by smtp2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Qir-0003Ug-Ab for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:21:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:21:26 +0100 From: Stas Verberkt To: In-Reply-To: <4F5F2B9A.3030504@bananmonarki.se> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <4F5F2B9A.3030504@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: <7b9cb531408ac567e1615f1b8474d968@homey.local> X-Sender: legolas@legolasweb.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.7.1 X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.7 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.2 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:16 -0000 Bernt Hansson schreef op 13-03-2012 12:12: > On 2012-03-11 21:28, Gary Kline wrote: >> or is that illegal, too? > > Depends on jurisdiction. > Indeed, Dutch and Belgium legislation, for example, permit making copies for personal use, which originates from recording the radio with a tape deck, which is basically what you are trying to do. I think US legislation is more strict and only allows personal copies where one has both the original and the copy, e.g. copying a CD to your (licensed) MP3 player. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 14:16:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F0A1065673 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBC58FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id l2Dh1i008516WCc012DiV2; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:13:43 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=VNBfbqzX c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=0q_345xfOCoA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=L-A7p-3bDi1EIq67r7QA:9 a=VwS6-NYCZ2VvJpDlWh0A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1S7STt-0000oC-IR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:13:41 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:13:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201203131413.41392.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Problem compiling emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod 4.1.8_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:16:53 -0000 portmaster -a fails with: cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-mp -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_SUP_R0 -DVBOX -DRT_WITH_VBOX -w -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS -DRT_ARCH_X86 -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -Iinclude -I. -Ir0drv -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c: In function 'rtR0MemObjFreeBSDAllocPhysPages': /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c:405: error: invalid type argument of '->' *** Error code 1 Stop in /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv. I ran portsnap immediately before portmaster so my ports are up to date. Any suggestions? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:16:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694451065677 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1538FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so1267194iah.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=B+K4rRgn2NBpic7ez1Ik2UqZZkQN/28N8nC6DDWCHCo=; b=COh6R7wwhQrKRRkUo5TxEp7U/inTeiY7qk4N6fMwqpAlfWG72gU+RScmP07fGyLWls ym3DvXYDDnFH9Tb+Mfhd+6yeBA2jSsy2nNTu+615EjgnBMUmBp2nxG4HHlKRmg531Jqg MTCiM5rwwIH06m34RiwP+EcsVkMvyNGMRfkcdEYDkuSk+Rq1gxwjYSjyL18YaX0q6vYw bTPNyUHhGs206oh6jifhBOtSKpYwLCqHOnvnvAVUH+KSyDpCaeBplSmXw/XaU1dhYalf yYSdZtpMoqVK8pFNh+pX9qJlHmunbv+j/YCFrenTxzhJzF8KiNZsxXNAAzHxMLD1AGDe EWaQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.153.10 with SMTP id k10mr21300869icw.24.1331651313209; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.172.194 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.190.44] In-Reply-To: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:08:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Tim Daneliuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlt1TVD2cvWncdG7Df6gU4r0oQqRjiXSM1f4cU5Yrg18Wwe9hdxswNC0phuu2immvd78e+X Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:16:00 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote= : > I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edi= t > files. =A0However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to ex= it > to the shell. =A0 The client in question has strong (and unyielding) Info= Sec > requirements in this regard. If the requirements are THAT hard, I think it would be best to do it the good ole fashioned way: modify the source code of their favorite editor, by patching out ALL calls to system(2), exec*(2), popen() et al. This way, you'll be sure that editor binary won't call out ANY external process whatsoever. A little bit less secure, but based on the same idea, would be to provide replacements for those process-creating functions in a custom library, say, libnofork.so where each of these functions immediately return or signal an error like EPERM instead of ultimately doing the syscall. Then link your client's editor with -lnofork to mask the original libc definitions. It is a little bit less secure than manually removing or commenting out calls to system(), exec*(), popen*() etc, because the editor could at least in theory call dlopen() on the original libc, where the functions are still there, or it could even issue the kernel syscalls directly, without going through libc... although that is very unlikely with the usual editors. It is also less secure, because from within this modified editor, the user could read the contents of libc.so into libnofork.so, and then restart the editor. But you get the basic idea. Alternatively, you may want to look into ways to disable forking() in general for a process. Some old Unices provided a way to selectively disable certain syscalls based on some root-definable administrative per-user or per-application policy, but I don't know whether this is possible with FreeBSD. Perhaps the new Capsicum [1] provides this, or will in the foreseeable future? I have not looked into it yet. [1]: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/ > So ... are there editors without this feature? =A0Can I compile something= like > joe or vi to inhibit this feature? Yes, see above: provide a replacement library and link against that. Consider static linking for slightly increased security, and make sure the user can't modify the editor binary, can't modify any dynamic libraries it links against, and can't replace that binary with another binary. Security is like an onion. > Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ Regards, -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:27:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B79106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@ftfl.ca) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287558FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so393025eek.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:27:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=78NYGYCTtU33GjgO3oCy7DqL2l4ASS4mbqeq/UiRVPc=; b=hXc62IOC9k0d59AF7EmpBv5EA9X7ZUYr0Am8Pe6T7iSTsZGVpfl1LDznJ4NAz3hvhR 5fKvig0C64ua6+RcKwAAD8EtRghcF+Pl8tZBoBbCxItqFa074m3DOF/3UM8nSyTMKOyR pCD3DdM4pfIK2xgt4vA6kCcMZSD9WJ7HEAMgVFc0R8J4jAcXrISMDi3NLY3//A73Y7Q/ iCnRenYbF0vszkvq5O7lbftQJ/eV4dMwTa0/L6vRHYCB++uMTPmnBHB1t7oOFRWuhaFq hZWjQ9mMmePlTc2YTaS2OIbD4QR9VOiRu/D+Vld2VJTRUBshjTwn0Lf3DrkFSOBFeJ5a Wg8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.91.16 with SMTP id ca16mr17578594vdb.125.1331652424606; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.36.1 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:27:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [129.173.34.203] Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:27:04 -0300 Message-ID: From: Joseph Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkTM42/Lg7U/0CrVjmitYZLHM37Cb7RxZAkW1L2KfegwX0jXrIXJ+Y3bphrRrVPRWoU2g+5 Subject: Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG (iwi) firmware error / device timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:27:06 -0000 I see there are still some open PRs for this problem, but they are a couple of years old. Does anyone know of any workarounds? I don't recall having problems in 7.x, but in 8.x I see the firmware errors every few hours. If I try to do a # /etc/rc.d netif restart the system reboots. # pciconf -lv ... iwi0@pci0:2:2:0: class=0x028000 card=0x27018086 chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG (MPCI3B)' class = network # cat /boot/loader.conf ... legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 if_iwi_load="YES" # cat /etc/rc.conf | grep wlan wlans_iwi0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" # cat /etc/wap_supplicant.conf network={ ssid="myssid" psk="mypsk" } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:43:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FC5106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8C38FC22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2DFhN1M078709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:43:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4F5F6B1A.7070808@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:43:22 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5EEBB4.1080608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5EEBB4.1080608@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:43:23 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q2DFhN1M078709 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:43:32 -0000 On 03/13/2012 01:39 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 3/12/2012 5:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: >>> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like >>>> >>>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe >>> >>> >>> I think this would not let the user to login,etc >> >> I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, >> and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred >> to the login shell, which is the program specified in the >> "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is >> login supposed to know if the program specified in this >> field is actually a dialog shell? >> >>> From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in >> login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default >> binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if >> it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability >> of performing a login. >> >> >> > > Are they logging in from the console or from ssh? If it's from a console, I'd send them directly into a jail with limited file system access, so that excecutables don't matter. If it's from ssh, I'd do the same thing. > > Assume they can break out of the editor or that something will happen. Make it minimalist about what they can do. Use the /rescue/vi in an empty jail with the files available. Don't think about changing editors, change the system. That's a really good idea, but we're talking about almost 1000 systems here. That's a whole bunch of configuration... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 16:04:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C40106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999988FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2DG4hL9042547 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:04:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4F5F7016.1060406@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:04:38 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Subject: Interrupt storm and Intel DQ67SW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:04:46 -0000 In case anyone else runs into this problem, here it is for the archives. FreeBSD 8.3, AMD64 (Actually, RELENG_8 as of March 2012) I upgraded my home server to an Intel DQ67SW motherboard (hardware version AAG12527-309). I used a bge PCI-E nic in the 1x slot which caused an interrupt storm issue with the usb. Trying an old PCI fxp card showed the same problem. Even with just 2Mb of pppoe traffic crossing the bge or fxp, I would see storm issues. Running top, showed 10% of the system was spending its time servicing interrupts. vmstat -i showed a rate of close to 10k on irq16. I upgraded the BIOS to SWQ6710H.86A.0061.2012.0210.1130 from the Nov 2011 version and all is fine now. Everything about the box 'feels' more responsive and throughput on my wan connection is normal again. # vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq16: bge0 ehci0+ 40439 3 irq20: fwohci0 2 0 irq23: ehci1 22177 2 cpu0: timer 22062162 2000 irq256: em0 14825 1 irq257: ahci0 4874088 441 cpu3: timer 22054239 1999 cpu1: timer 22054150 1999 cpu2: timer 22054168 1999 Total 93176250 8446 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2300 CPU @ 2.80GHz (2793.67-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x206a7 Family = 6 Model = 2a Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x179ae3bf AMD Features=0x28100800 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) avail memory = 16434216960 (15672 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ichwd module loaded cryptosoft0: on motherboard aesni0: on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0xf000-0xf03f mem 0xfb400000-0xfb7fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci0: at device 22.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xf130-0xf137,0xf120-0xf123,0xf110-0xf117,0xf100-0xf103,0xf0f0-0xf0ff irq 18 at device 22.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: at channel 0 on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: at channel 1 on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] uart2: port 0xf0e0-0xf0e7 mem 0xfbc29000-0xfbc29fff irq 17 at device 22.3 on pci0 uart2: [FILTER] em0: port 0xf080-0xf09f mem 0xfbc00000-0xfbc1ffff,0xfbc28000-0xfbc28fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 em0: Using an MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:22:4d:52:5c:34 ehci0: mem 0xfbc27000-0xfbc273ff irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: EHCI version 1.0 usbus0: on ehci0 pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 bge0: mem 0xfbb10000-0xfbb1ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 bge0: CHIP ID 0x00004001; ASIC REV 0x04; CHIP REV 0x40; PCI-E miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge0: Ethernet address: 00:10:18:14:15:43 bge0: [ITHREAD] pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 3ware device driver for 9000 series storage controllers, version: 3.80.06.003 twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xd0000000-0xd1ffffff,0xfba20000-0xfba20fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 twa0: [ITHREAD] twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.08.00.006, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.001 pcib4: irq 18 at device 28.6 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 xhci0: mem 0xfb900000-0xfb901fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 xhci0: [ITHREAD] xhci0: 32 byte context size. usbus1 on xhci0 ehci1: mem 0xfbc26000-0xfbc263ff irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 ehci1: [ITHREAD] usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2: on ehci1 pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 fwohci0: mem 0xfb800000-0xfb800fff irq 20 at device 3.0 on pci5 fwohci0: [ITHREAD] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 00:22:4d:ff:ff:52:8f:44 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:22:4d:52:8f:44 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:22:4d:52:8f:44 fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:22:4d:ff:ff:52:8f:44 @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x46ac000 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=0x00000000, SelfID Count=1, CYCLEMASTER mode isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahci0: port 0xf0d0-0xf0d7,0xf0c0-0xf0c3,0xf0b0-0xf0b7,0xf0a0-0xf0a3,0xf060-0xf07f mem 0xfbc25000-0xfbc257ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 6 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich1: [ITHREAD] ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich2: [ITHREAD] ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahcich3: [ITHREAD] ahcich4: at channel 4 on ahci0 ahcich4: [ITHREAD] ahcich5: at channel 5 on ahci0 ahcich5: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] tpm0: iomem 0xfed40000-0xfed44fff on acpi0 tpm: WEC WPCT200 rev 0x46 ichwd0: on isa0 ichwd0: Intel Cougar Point watchdog timer (ICH10 or equivalent) orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcdfff,0xce000-0xcefff,0xcf000-0xd0fff,0xd1000-0xd2fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 est2: on cpu2 p4tcc2: on cpu2 est3: on cpu3 p4tcc3: on cpu3 ZFS filesystem version 5 ZFS storage pool version 28 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0 cable IRM irm(0) (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 usbus0: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus1: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: <0x1033> at usbus1 uhub1: <0x1033 XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub2: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ugen0.2: at usbus0 uhub3: on usbus0 ugen2.2: at usbus2 uhub4: on usbus2 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ugen0.3: at usbus0 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada2: Command Queueing enabled ada2: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada3 at ahcich3 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 ada3: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada3: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada3: Command Queueing enabled ada3: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) da0 at twa0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 953664MB (1953103872 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 121575C) SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! ugen0.4: at usbus0 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=1 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 16:20:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFF2106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855E48FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so910787ghr.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:20:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IaDt6jHU0Dg1uEOyPbuTuG761Jf4O+vMndWVBGMpZsk=; b=z17Ov52y0J6IIDvApECCTaQxrFoCNjobnMrLtrVDHzTsh7dkvJESN6M7W0uqxbI8TM jl2a6j3fFmoyjRkMja4CPeu8i3TSHiwCQ4K77YvMGMZLGdPN32ldhpZQezivbU9QKhjo 8o+xM/Zsz6gWLcDnDJnuMhKYrwiGP3zsOQ5QNSIOUlljxzYh2pjXweZ9x9GNkfeZ6zbL Oruee3KdBUVBScrc9cAZG86Imx5SXYicNxH8tQMR4h2g0VmCbqmP5xGhUzqz4zrRgup1 PKTR67OFvrt8aMNRfQNM62tu6SADu6qqJKk9a7mUv6dDKbR5c9kJZv1NlEH8oVIRTjwk Wh1w== Received: by 10.60.27.6 with SMTP id p6mr13436231oeg.36.1331655642806; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g2sm1467515obl.7.2012.03.13.09.20.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F5F73D0.6040507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:20:32 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5EEBB4.1080608@gmail.com> <4F5F6B1A.7070808@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F6B1A.7070808@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:20:44 -0000 On 3/13/2012 10:43 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 03/13/2012 01:39 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: >> On 3/12/2012 5:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: >>>> On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>>>> /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like >>>>> >>>>> bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe >>>> >>>> >>>> I think this would not let the user to login,etc >>> >>> I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, >>> and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred >>> to the login shell, which is the program specified in the >>> "shell" field (see "man 5 passwd") of /etc/passwd. How is >>> login supposed to know if the program specified in this >>> field is actually a dialog shell? >>> >>>> From "man 1 login" I read that many shells have a built-in >>> login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default >>> binary for this purpose if the "shell" (quotes deserved if >>> it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability >>> of performing a login. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Are they logging in from the console or from ssh? If it's from a >> console, I'd send them directly into a jail with limited file system >> access, so that excecutables don't matter. If it's from ssh, I'd do >> the same thing. >> >> Assume they can break out of the editor or that something will happen. >> Make it minimalist about what they can do. Use the /rescue/vi in an >> empty jail with the files available. Don't think about changing >> editors, change the system. > > That's a really good idea, but we're talking about almost 1000 systems > here. That's a whole bunch of configuration... > Here's the simplified form. mkdir -p /edit_jail/usr/share/misc mkdir -p /edit_jail/var/tmp cp /usr/share/misc/termcap* /edit_jail/usr/share/misc/ cp /rescue/vi /edit_jail mount_nullfs /allowable_files /edit_jail/files jail -c path=/edit_jail command=/vi Only the last command would need to be done at login. If you want a different editor, you'll have to deal with libraries, etc. Most only need libc and libncurses so it's not that big a deal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:30:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE9F106567D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CFD8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP211 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:29:52 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP211.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:29:51 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V6jk564TPz2CG4w for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:29:49 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2012 17:29:51.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[E56FC540:01CD013E] Subject: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:30:59 -0000 Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or videos. By marking the folders "shared" in Windows, these folders are available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a shared music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft & MAC and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have only gotten the same response. If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it. I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did work. I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless router. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:10:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706C10656A6 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 3l41fTxYJALAdUmi-bUbedWQffcQYb-SecWcQYb.Sec@M3KW2WVRGUFZ5GODRSRYTGD7.apphosting.bounces.google.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f200.google.com (mail-gx0-f200.google.com [209.85.161.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82568FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so2011740ggn.7 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:x-google-appengine-app-id:message-id:date :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ENxtaUTIoSCaNA4kLB6a4/snL6eqC3rB/JLu+Ug6+Uo=; b=QzlpfsO8+/9z0p/5HXMzfiiSVA+zCmG+Z+ORPVsYaRkWXj9dZKJFxsfIic2HBWehuX fb9H2QZexwESSy1FWXn/hNrgLZeeEuIJAXu6/1FqtWa0vV6jSXoCEtkX85jbcKwaERBr AMbO9r864BQS6pco6JnE1b6CaBE2eMo3QOQLU4IVzUPnzPqFOl6j1WaPUNa3oKyhp3nb Hl2uMDd8zX85alMu0Xz+9hi0bUHSU3OIBV1bSYqDCuM6INx3f/VZqR5ekGlLX5w0V8Ax mm2Vdz9rqKZnSjd109WWJYV6X93Kty9VzNzyc5hUr/kf1+POVL8899U6AbnKZrD+dDUu tYBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.146 with SMTP id m18mr22552843vdf.7.1331662231545; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Appengine-App-Id: s~news-lelongappmail-com Message-ID: <20cf307ca34a45af1b04bb23c67d@google.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:10:31 +0000 From: Lelong Mailer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQltARIk69lIMFoQUcV6HajmZaIeMKo1/T5SG71F06ACjGU+XhieLLAhxa8NOTJ/lrLQX/sF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Online Seller vs E-Commerce Seller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lelong Mailer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:10:38 -0000 You're receiving this newsletter because you subscribed from our website. 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If you do not wish to receive further newsletters, you may unsubscribe by clicking Here From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:18:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90542106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1183E8FC29 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lboi15 with SMTP id i15so537479lbo.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:18:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N4SyYBtV4PUEX1dRpqQ+LW1lZ6iGF9Hys9+qdbhz6Ig=; b=ZHXmZY/tO1XCOGQYsetofRS66L2hiLJIjA0qA9aGcPTymDaHh84kaC2DUMspoltfRZ 4FYaGRNHv+AMiFXvWSzqDxHF51RNGHUYbVwmtXlcwibH2eL20Ame+dM9/aihS7+8Vo3v benhL/hYKsdbFcCbs/SmNspf0Plm0BI5i49URLJGUZ+a02o0auvRU6JQMWRxZHL6TlxE /zPngIM2udtviwoT4+K8hgz4ekUNoaMYAX8VW8ErZ595dQPKc6lgsxzadFxOHBYc8Hf8 NpJcOZboXfL1oPBquBdw28oSr/f0QDd7OH9OwCNTzj+WdcoYRXRJzKPgP8YLTVWaxU4d EpCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.8.201 with SMTP id t9mr6652279lba.51.1331662690906; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.13.72 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:18:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:18:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Joseph Mingrone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG (iwi) firmware error / device timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:18:12 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > I see there are still some open PRs for this problem, but they are a > couple of years old. =A0Does anyone know of any workarounds? > > I don't recall having problems in 7.x, but in 8.x I see the firmware > errors every few hours. If I try to do a # /etc/rc.d netif restart the > system reboots. I don't know if it is related, but in 9.0-RELEASE, I can't load the firmware at all (kern/165595) Cheers > > # pciconf -lv > ... > iwi0@pci0:2:2:0: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x27018086 chip= =3D0x42208086 > rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 > =A0 =A0vendor =A0 =A0 =3D 'Intel Corporation' > =A0 =A0device =A0 =A0 =3D 'driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG (MPCI3B)' > =A0 =A0class =A0 =A0 =A0=3D network > > # cat /boot/loader.conf > ... > legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=3D1 > if_iwi_load=3D"YES" > > # cat /etc/rc.conf | grep wlan > wlans_iwi0=3D"wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA DHCP" > > # cat /etc/wap_supplicant.conf > network=3D{ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ssid=3D"myssid" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0psk=3D"mypsk" > } > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:44:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11BA10656E0 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from legolas@legolasweb.nl) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF738FC1A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7WE7-0003O2-Uf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:13:39 +0100 Received: from 5357e32a.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.227.42] helo=homey.local) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7WE7-0003F8-Hy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:13:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:14:04 +0100 From: Stas Verberkt To: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0f37cc09da7742b59ff47c528faf799e@homey.local> X-Sender: legolas@legolasweb.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.7.1 X-Ziggo-spambar: -- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -2.8 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_40=-0.001, PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.2 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:44:14 -0000 Carmel schreef op 13-03-2012 18:29: > Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these > TVs > there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or > videos. By marking the folders "shared" in Windows, these folders are > available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same > thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a > shared > music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they > told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft & > MAC > and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for > assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have > only > gotten the same response. > > If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible > solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a > drive > in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to > it. > I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did > work. > > I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the > exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless > router. My guess would still be Samba, as this is an implementation of the shared folders of Windows. Maybe your configuration was not perfect? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:50:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2833E1065673 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047128FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q2DIoPZb004994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q2DIoPwY004993; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19914; Tue, 13 Mar 12 10:42:38 PST Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:42:11 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: tundra@tundraware.com Message-Id: <4f5ff773.8NzWe8s4nYiNRcin%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F5E4C2A.1020005@tundraware.com> <4F5E6D3A.50302@gmail.com> <20120312231000.4bb530e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5E7687.5070808@gmail.com> <20120312232300.4da8ebf3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5EEBB4.1080608@gmail.com> <4F5F6B1A.7070808@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F6B1A.7070808@tundraware.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:50:28 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > ... we're talking about almost 1000 systems > here. That's a whole bunch of configuration... Had you considered using something along the lines of sysutils/puppet? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:59:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB351065670 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE428FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so4825229wib.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tzjqYVQgc5EXLuvVeUXP0c5FC6DxUGhLgQKAG6EQEmk=; b=nv7COHNvp8DORtUk8HoWas4QLPGWFjntH7eL8sGBEje6bmpqEq3wZ8ddEfz2cDpdCt Si79HRflbO/jhoBIalrwgrFoFsvGcw/wHX0pPHDLs9RsSblS3K3dFeogEtYwYkUmsJyu THYeySk7XbPMrmqoBo2QWtCEic1lgPGYwyuG0B30RWzt+qJtV439NtI0lRu+1sHBOXNT BSwW46kwlVXS9H6WTkrf4d/YNqOUQKbGaZ86nrvtWoXBPulo0wqOkhCnAJ1RII5XZnD3 cKKJCRVoemiCf7smSsWExrIvmgh2OFjrE46etDVBE38pSY1ck8kRs2owwvxEkIxLMMYk M8nA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.231 with SMTP id fr7mr10015010wib.10.1331665185340; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.102.78 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:59:46 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carmel wrote: > Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs > there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or > videos. By marking the folders "shared" in Windows, these folders are > available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same > thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. > Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:22:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22489106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C17E8FC22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS21 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:21:09 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.252.108.207] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "'Stas Verberkt'" , References: <0f37cc09da7742b59ff47c528faf799e@homey.local> In-Reply-To: <0f37cc09da7742b59ff47c528faf799e@homey.local> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:21:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQDKN5WyGZwm98V9HEWRIAourYhLZgN4rmeumFJkdnA= Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2012 19:21:09.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[7242A6E0:01CD014E] Cc: Subject: RE: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:22:16 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stas Verberkt > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:14 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV >=20 > Carmel schreef op 13-03-2012 18:29: > > Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these = TVs > > there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or > > videos. By marking the folders "shared" in Windows, these folders = are > > available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same > > thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a = shared > > music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they > > told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft & > > MAC and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with > > for assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would = have > > only gotten the same response. > > > > If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible > > solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a = drive > > in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to = it. > > I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did > > work. > > > > I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the > > exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless > > router. >=20 > My guess would still be Samba, as this is an implementation of the = shared > folders of Windows. Maybe your configuration was not perfect? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Make sure that the SAMBA shares are not hidden. Test from a windows PC = to see that they are listed properly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860471065675 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4168FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP194 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:54:55 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP194.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:54:54 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V6mxS6w7bz2CG4w for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:54:52 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2012 19:54:54.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[28D87480:01CD0153] Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:56:02 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500 Adam Vande More articulated: > Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA > server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port. A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything, other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your suggestion. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:02:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D093106564A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6008FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9DB2FE8093F; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Joshua Isom Message-ID: <20120313200224.GA10311@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <4F5D1094.2080504@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5D1094.2080504@gmail.com> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:02:31 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:52:36PM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:52:36 -0500 > From: Joshua Isom > Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On 3/11/2012 3:28 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >guys, > > > >i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e > >excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. > > > >here us a FBSD qauestion.... how can i capture any tv stream---or > >radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? > > > >gray > > > > > > > > For capturing, I believe linux is your best bet. I had tried using > the bktr driver, but I couldn't get it to work properly with the > card I had. It could work somewhat from what I remember. The card > was my brother's and he used it under linux, but he upgraded to a > better one. > > Legality should be the same as a VCR/DVR, personal use only and > don't redistribute. if it means buying a card, then, nope. i assumed that the bits were streaming thu my cable to firefox and that thedre was some program that could collecte these data and stash them in, say , /tmp. i'm using linux as a desktop, and FBSD as my server. maybed i'll find where pbs has these films stashed ... or maybe they were only for "pledge week" gary ps:: fwiw, that capmbell stuff was about half of the original. i've got all 6 hours of audio, tho. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:06:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B530106566B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E2B8FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F3E86E8093F; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:06:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:06:38 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39:38PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:39:38 +1000 > From: Da Rock > Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [ ...] > > >>>Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media > >>>streams. There are tools for that available. > >>There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and > >> webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another > >>tool to record the stream. > >> > >>And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time > >> and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for > >>this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up > >>someday when I have the spare time. > > > >No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought > >MythTV was the one to use. > Pah! Too much bloat - especially for this use. > > A lot of setup and configuration is required, and for a one off why bother? so that's it. i messed around with mythtv last fall on my ubuntu distro. couldn't get anywhere and finally realized that =you need some kind of HARDWARE=. well, bleep that. i de-installed and got back to . sinced early december i've been working on an accessibility app for the speech impaired. it won't work on the berkeley distros natively. it should given our linux stuff. i'll tell you: i haven't have this much of a challenge since i was studying data structures. Danm, gtk is hard. but super fun. my application is as lean as i can make it, Especially since it is aimed an people who have never used computers before. i'm copying as much of gespeaker's layout as i can because that is very lean and clean. ---this is a long-winded way of saying to da rock that i hope you clean up your script[s] and publish the code in /usr/ports. {a final rant about copyright:: i woulnd never touch any commercial station because they sneak in those bloody commerc*als on you. before you know it, you've watched a minute of babes trying to sell you your Zippy-Do sports van. i dont have the energy to get mad. i just dont watch anything but pbs or npr.} > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:29:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD7A106568A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6D48FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id n13so1350900wer.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a0m1S4SnSg39S7m1CjtzZzUtfp/lz35A5hjDj7TfBXo=; b=Hke8jWS34ktF7ljCtMPql/CG5zDaRncLr9KpyGZuKrs5WFc1yZvw6q5pOuq3JiYlJP ooFx5rjfbBZdwxsOUZ3wmVFQ1k/sIYH4KjabOu96UXEPy/zDfvHooPZqghHS9p3FLGz+ QD6rFPwscd0e58uFpRaWdSQXnpTzr1pEmsZqKbKDJITSfc6DWHeMTBznQvOQMJmWGdRm uxhUHwcK0P6mAbE8jckKOXk2BU2S2BED9c4NXmVNuy0HoAfW0k/uln+CUpWZirzxaqmd Cn3WgCttG/DFKBYdk+3al42pv7cMmLVBGzUu3N/n0tvd1LEQGh3dWJeirqfusHHsw3B6 Utjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.14.73 with SMTP id n9mr292030wic.16.1331674147441; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.11.7 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:29:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Apache module mod_fastcgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:29:08 -0000 according to: http://www.fastcgi.com/mod_fastcgi/docs/mod_fastcgi.html#FastCgiExternalServer --- Note: Using FastCgiServer within a VirtualHost does not necessarily limited access to that host. If filename is accessible via other virtual hosts, they too can leverage the same definition. --- how would I share this between multiple virtualhosts? I can get it to work in one default virtualhost but in none of my virtualhosts since it's already defined and being shared across all virtualhost? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:38:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A94106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B978FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maize13.cropsci.uiuc.edu (maize13.cropsci.uiuc.edu [130.126.89.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2DLEvAY099549 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:14:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at just.puresimplicity.net Message-ID: <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:14:52 -0500 From: Josh Tolbert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:14:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:38:41 -0000 On 3/13/12 4:06 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39:38PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > so that's it. i messed around with mythtv last fall on my ubuntu > distro. couldn't get anywhere and finally realized that =you need some > kind of HARDWARE=. I have an HDHomeRun...The original "classic" two-tuner model, from http://www.silicondust.com. It's a stand-alone DTV streamer. I use it with an antenna; apparently you can get versions that work with antennas or cablecard/cable TV as well. Works great. I use it with Windows Media Center for scheduling recordings, but they work great with MythTV, VLC and others for recording. Using VLC, I've recorded some videos of a local band on a morning show that have ended up on YouTube...I can send links if you want to see how it looks, although that station only broadcasts in 480i. For what it's worth, I've successfully used three BT848/878/878+ cards---all of which were PixelView or STB cards---in the same machine running FreeBSD with the bktr driver and Motion to handle surveillance-camera duties. mplayer/mencoder could only use bktr0 cause they hard-code bktr0 in the source and seemed thoroughly uninterested in fixing this oversight, even though the change would be fairly minor. Hope that helps someone. Cheers, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:48:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF28D106566C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from queueout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788B98FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20120313203524.HCQO20752.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:35:24 +0000 Received: from [94.168.171.147] (helo=Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S7YRI-0001sj-G2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:22:32 -0000 On 03/14/12 03:29, Carmel wrote: > Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs > there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or > videos. By marking the folders "shared" in Windows, these folders are > available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same > thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a shared > music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they > told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft& MAC > and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for > assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have only > gotten the same response. Ironic, considering Sony use FreeBSD for PS... might have had more success than Samsung :) There's a DLNA server in ports you could try. > > If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible > solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive > in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it. > I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did > work. > > I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the > exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless > router. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 01:54:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B830106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5582E8FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so2133728iah.13 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ae1auWWmzeRuMNCXrCK9kEvaDDZX5jiE8lnjJNG6tnc=; b=OeBbaB11DOELH4vqMQUv5gAgLBWPngHYYbyI0OqeyrOmx0xrQrd8S61ze6RvddXEZc uF92tCXnErfSeC8jeE3tIgnACoGsCsoXvn0bcBNYvNWfcbAhJj0TZFyzX2Bcc1H+f63n sBHm8o4nXfgJLTjQIieQP6kMgU/6GEgTNvgrXcnB0ky1RfBSWF4xnUTd4/ZtrTtsCXsq v9NAR4EfXdf2MXssP0iUQTLLAV3/aJG2qkgFJ4anyD0OXWx8aVUkiqOrVEQMzyA99ZOR 4H/s40sZkxg/wYxCeem8IJ5JdPALt54s2Y3byMMpeSeU0MEChvMSC+2fpEyZrgVg0zKP GMDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.178.4 with SMTP id cu4mr1217857igc.34.1331690079515; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.184.233 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:54:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: libXfont vulnerabilty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:54:45 -0000 Dear folks, upon updating ports from Sunday to today, I encountered a little problem. $ portmaster -a was giving errors. I then ran a command to fix the errors, found here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?s=559d437092f3c652bc5496ace69b7a0d&p=170130#post170130 Command that fixed these issues was $ portaudit -Fda One of the errors directed me to : http://portaudit.freebsd.org/304409c3-c3ef-11e0-8aa5-485d60cb5385.html Do I need to uninstall libXfonts, or leave it alone till a fix is issued? The installed package is a vulnerability or the new one? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 02:19:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83E5106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFE08FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 10342E80917; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Josh Tolbert Message-ID: <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:19:48 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:14:52PM -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote: > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:14:52 -0500 > From: Josh Tolbert > Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On 3/13/12 4:06 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39:38PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >so that's it. i messed around with mythtv last fall on my ubuntu > >distro. couldn't get anywhere and finally realized that =you need > >some kind of HARDWARE=. > > I have an HDHomeRun...The original "classic" two-tuner model, from > http://www.silicondust.com. It's a stand-alone DTV streamer. I use > it with an antenna; apparently you can get versions that work with > antennas or cablecard/cable TV as well. Works great. I use it with > Windows Media Center for scheduling recordings, but they work great > with MythTV, VLC and others for recording. Using VLC, I've recorded > some videos of a local band on a morning show that have ended up on > YouTube...I can send links if you want to see how it looks, although > that station only broadcasts in 480i. > > For what it's worth, I've successfully used three BT848/878/878+ > cards---all of which were PixelView or STB cards---in the same > machine running FreeBSD with the bktr driver and Motion to handle > surveillance-camera duties. mplayer/mencoder could only use bktr0 > cause they hard-code bktr0 in the source and seemed thoroughly > uninterested in fixing this oversight, even though the change would > be fairly minor. > > Hope that helps someone. hey, josh, you just gave me an idea. my sister is giving me a used computer that is in good shape. i have heard about the "848" or whatever cards for years. should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the links....offline i f you think it wise to spare the bandwidth. Q: i have [i think] hi-def in the used computer, so want a hi-def card.... yours in geezer-geeekdom, gary PS: i was a kernel hacker, a porter, and an OS TEster. pix, tv, [movies], audio are strictly over my head. > > Cheers, > > Josh > > -- > Josh Tolbert > hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ > > Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor > do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger > is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either > a daring adventure, or nothing. > -- Helen Keller > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 02:51:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCDA106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E678FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AC51EB46; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:51:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2E2pN6M001982; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:51:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:51:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20120314035123.c228226a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120313200224.GA10311@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <4F5D1094.2080504@gmail.com> <20120313200224.GA10311@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:51:32 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:24 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > if it means buying a card, then, nope. i assumed that the > bits were streaming thu my cable to firefox and that thedre > was some program that could collecte these data and stash > them in, say , /tmp. i'm using linux as a desktop, and FBSD > as my server. There are download helper plugins available for Firefox that allow you to "capture" streaming content to a file. > maybed i'll find where pbs has these films stashed ... or > maybe they were only for "pledge week" Regular file downloads are something you'll hardly find on the "modern" web. But that doesn't mean you cannot turn streams into files. After all, the data _is_ trans- ferred to your computer. It's just a question to use the proper program. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 03:09:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98938106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550FE8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585301ED79; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2E39UFM002063; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:09:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:09:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20120314040930.8e1c3d02.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:09:32 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > i have heard about the "848" or whatever cards for years. > should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood > everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the > links....offline i f you think it wise to spare the > bandwidth. Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model name is "Haupauge WinTV" and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). A "problem" may be that it is a PCI card. The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be "combined" and the result can be stored as a video file in any format and container you want. This is the card: bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x040000 card=0x13eb0070 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' class = multimedia subclass = video The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) You need the kernel modules loaded per bktr_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. No need to manually and interactively install a "driver". :-) The player command is something like % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. I'm not sure how to handle TV ("antenna") input as I've always been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's documentation that may help: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html It also contains an example to "record to file", which will implement the "software video tape recoder" functionality. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 05:03:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9231065675 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EAC8FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C515C28 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:17:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69AB45C22 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:17:19 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F602576.4070501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> <20120314040930.8e1c3d02.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120314040930.8e1c3d02.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:03:55 -0000 On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >> i have heard about the "848" or whatever cards for years. >> should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood >> everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the >> links....offline i f you think it wise to spare the >> bandwidth. > Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model > name is "Haupauge WinTV" and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. > It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). > A "problem" may be that it is a PCI card. > > The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the > tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying > and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the > card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed > from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also > need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your > sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be > "combined" and the result can be stored as a video file in > any format and container you want. > > This is the card: > > bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x040000 card=0x13eb0070 > chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' > device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' > class = multimedia > subclass = video > > The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, > audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) > > You need the kernel modules loaded per > > bktr_load="YES" > > in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. > No need to manually and interactively install a "driver". :-) > > The player command is something like > > % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 > > and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be > adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. > > I'm not sure how to handle TV ("antenna") input as I've always > been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's > documentation that may help: > > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html > > It also contains an example to "record to file", which will > implement the "software video tape recoder" functionality. Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or need for them. The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the card is USB based and use webcamd. Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC. 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questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:30:02 -0000 I have FreeBSD8.2. Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collection but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org. I installed that. To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna : ----------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: sedna # REQUIRE: DAEMON # KEYWORD: shutdown # . /etc/rc.subr name="sedna" rcvar=${name}_enable command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov load_rc_config $name : ${sedna_enable="NO"} run_rc_command "$1" -------------------------------------------- and added sedna_enable="YES" at the end of my /etc/rc.conf This way it starts at boot: $ ps -jaxww | grep se_ root 7064 1 7064 7064 0 Is ?? 0:00.00 /home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localhost -port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0 -stack-depth 4000 The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user 'sedna'' How can I do that? The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start the program run as a different user .. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 08:13:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC8106566B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A208FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2E8D22f045974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:13:02 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2E8D22f045974 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1331712782; bh=QZXg9+UQgpeOBdx7BJS5cezm2AmIhbYmDNwVFL6/tBo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=jYdk+W1+6cWXmb26MMNySrM+SCs5I28xm6Cg0UJipfFSoVOepIp6nWyv5/ALFLJND 1dVyRtPs6JRxDGFmIQZ8Y2ZV+49Kvy6febF4QU9nQEpYu5iaRVJxPm4qFKN2Ot/N2f GZS0cAktJjusL5cz2ax9w5z5LMN85p+ngGXcCTS8= Message-ID: <4F605307.8070907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:12:55 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4942BE213EE7008D15FA67EF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: start at boot, run as non-root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:13:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4942BE213EE7008D15FA67EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote: > I have FreeBSD8.2. > Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collecti= on > but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org. > I installed that. > To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna : > ----------------------------------------------- > #!/bin/sh > # > # PROVIDE: sedna > # REQUIRE: DAEMON > # KEYWORD: shutdown > # > . /etc/rc.subr >=20 > name=3D"sedna" > rcvar=3D${name}_enable > command=3D/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov >=20 > load_rc_config $name >=20 > : ${sedna_enable=3D"NO"} >=20 > run_rc_command "$1" > -------------------------------------------- > and added sedna_enable=3D"YES" at the end of my /etc/rc.conf >=20 > This way it starts at boot: > $ ps -jaxww | grep se_ > root 7064 1 7064 7064 0 Is ?? 0:00.00 > /home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localho= st > -port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0 > -stack-depth 4000 > The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user > 'sedna'' >=20 > How can I do that? >=20 > The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start t= he > program run as a different user .. Add a variable: ${name}_user=3Dsedna to the init script. The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the sedna process using your selected username. There's also ${name}_group but that works a bit differently. I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD upstream, but not appear in ports. Are there some onerous license terms or other obstacles[*]? If not, would you consider submitting your work as a port? Cheers, Matthew [*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/, which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing would be an obstacle. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig4942BE213EE7008D15FA67EF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9gUw0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzakwCfYCVFBHptT1P7olclsRdtanM6 2d8AoIynZeltdp3BzXh0dF8Yr5ofWMpp =DeK2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4942BE213EE7008D15FA67EF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 09:01:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E0D1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101A18FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2E8vTtQ004625 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:57:29 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F605D79.4070500@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:57:29 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nVidia card manufacturer recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:01:38 -0000 Somewhere, possibly here, a while back I saw a remark that certain manufacturer's nVidia cards worked reliably with the nVidia supplied drivers and others usually have problems because they tweak nVidia's reference spec. Of course, I didn't bookmark it and neither Google nor searching the last years' worth of the freebsd-questions@ archives has turned it up. Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or which I should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:26:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D123B106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5508FC1C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2EAQh3o004825; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F607263.7010309@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:45 -0000 On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500 > Adam Vande More articulated: > >> Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA >> server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port. > > A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are > configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have no > idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything, > other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume > that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your > suggestion. I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and is very picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user but I have the impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7 have DLNA support built in. Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts: http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:31:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AE1106566B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520598FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP193 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:31:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP193.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:31:43 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V78PB2Cq2z2CG4w for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:31:41 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUAAABYRlwJCw4FAgAIBwKprDkBAQFQLR0BAgCir7VRttp8AAACAUlEQVQ4jZWUTYvbMBCGTVl8V2hX6Gg5G5FbWQdBj0lEfE7BhN4cyzi5Wt1E5L70roWy6N92xok/skkP+5IYrMcz78xIduDWpNM3vFzuA/jX5EY1AI6KHFwW/CzFuQAwqUBbV12p+CzIh6Awq7sg33pn5D64SQXAexffeuQlA/L35RrkaB551OjGfP/cAO8mCNaDcgvfky5ijoD0pAXlCQCnljiAjsJD9Ax05Ko5sZxbnLQcmM+dZg5IjREfZrWIHK0JuwU68pAGwHvfRxBundRzTxxz3r9dNUikPsEihjz2Dc4kjp1hKsJGuot4EDxaxzMoC7XqhxhOSfZrTS6gSX1JVdjp+o1PvWfekXgw3WL0g70nDEwA0H0HQsEZc8sTmFMTkWUfYWC/vdR1zQy3xLQgLwzu90QnlnFLjeiGWBjwhb4Sa42IqOg2qqS4O1/zhKokFUb1Q8Rj4Eb69WVflXEehJ35DgChVTE5n50eaGyMLOfH8AOodoSM4PVYAQgQdBulOa+knklYks3vAuQ+uX492lTl+A+e8qBV2AKoXalVKFfyuUp0pUp1ARaUHh82lv9MN+Ig7CZtgE6FNYvjlywT2VP2dMgOG46gTIWcqdfvuwyXNz0oMJNd/N5lh1YNiJt19ADTUo3VuFSNeQwVqRSrGjSCp53fk2g+Mvfk/gfoPxHeUS8MH9vRAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2012 10:31:43.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[A69F65C0:01CD01CD] Subject: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:31:45 -0000 FreeBSD-8.2 STABLE In the /var/log/messages log file, I have noticed the follow error message: Mar 13 07:25:01 savage pulseaudio[11763]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. Similar messages are dispersed throughout the log. I never noticed these before and I do check out the "messages" file on a semi-regular basis. Is there something wrong here or can I safely disregard the message? -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:35:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CA3106566C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0F8FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A055C28 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:48:48 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B77AD5C22 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:48:48 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F607327.7010209@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:29:59 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F605307.8070907@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F605307.8070907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: start at boot, run as non-root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:35:18 -0000 On 03/14/12 18:12, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote: >> I have FreeBSD8.2. >> Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collection >> but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org. >> I installed that. >> To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna : >> ----------------------------------------------- >> #!/bin/sh >> # >> # PROVIDE: sedna >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON >> # KEYWORD: shutdown >> # >> . /etc/rc.subr >> >> name="sedna" >> rcvar=${name}_enable >> command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov >> >> load_rc_config $name >> >> : ${sedna_enable="NO"} >> >> run_rc_command "$1" >> -------------------------------------------- >> and added sedna_enable="YES" at the end of my /etc/rc.conf >> >> This way it starts at boot: >> $ ps -jaxww | grep se_ >> root 7064 1 7064 7064 0 Is ?? 0:00.00 >> /home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localhost >> -port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0 >> -stack-depth 4000 >> The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user >> 'sedna'' >> >> How can I do that? >> >> The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start the >> program run as a different user .. > Add a variable: > > ${name}_user=sedna > > to the init script. The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the > sedna process using your selected username. There's also ${name}_group > but that works a bit differently. > > I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD > upstream, but not appear in ports. Are there some onerous license terms > or other obstacles[*]? If not, would you consider submitting your work > as a port? > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/, > which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing > would be an obstacle. That would not be the problem, as the ports system can handle more licenses than simply bsd compatible; Its merely recommended. To illustrate, there are eval and commercial products in the ports tree. You have to register and pay the organisation when you install and start using (like komodo, others). The port is to ease installation on FreeBSD an app that would be widely used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:39:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A149106566C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72ED8FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP315 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:39:11 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP315.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:39:10 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V78Yn2gN0z2CG4w for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4F607263.7010309@qeng-ho.org> References: <4F607263.7010309@qeng-ho.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2012 10:39:10.0806 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0FFD760:01CD01CE] Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:39:13 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 +0000 Arthur Chance articulated: > On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500 > > Adam Vande More articulated: > > > >> Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA > >> server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port. > > > > A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are > > configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I > > have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure > > anything, other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so > > am I to assume that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I > > will try your suggestion. > > I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and > is very picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user > but I have the impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7 > have DLNA support built in. > > Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting > Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts: > > http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/ I did some checking. Win7, all versions, have support built into it. Apparently Vista and WinXP were updated with support via the Microsoft Update system. I have to admit, that does make for a very "user friendly" environment. Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly. I am still studying how to make FreeBSD similarly "user friendly". Thanks for the link. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:44:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE757106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899978FC18 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl9 with SMTP id l9so1987340yen.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:44:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mmg6KwXF2aHYWHknaMevVI7YAC2zdnvxb2yE6JZ2CcU=; b=iANRfk+SnCo6oJV6xOiC24YcTFcohHP5psfEsRYY69L/KZTZL8nmaqkdw9lxKWZ41q LQbXePdPVckRonzDnDT6b0kWobbK60t9x4r0KZcp72IEiAb9YlAxBRMFTu8zYALt0JPF DPdX7wnW7uzbJqalfKVK4iq5gWWNMgssm4Kl+GdDEDtfG+BGKd6SwlK6CNEsT8fmYyfa 8DVPtGZY6SZO/5Xvrr6dE5YyYZSsr0luZFjq5Q0z/cA2BYPrpvlajJaxBcEDbLAByHhb Zxs9tnGdbNNKhGhZEbR6YjZZZuMmdI4/+A1cgfwa0F2xsb1YWD+BvV9icRSmfiCgHk1N PCYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.28.103 with SMTP id a7mr2515293oeh.24.1331721876631; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.80.131 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:44:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:44:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: S1GAkKTeGXJaezIpOkPmb737Chw Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:44:42 -0000 I thought I would follow up on this as a couple individuals expressed an interest in it... We have isolated the configuration in which this occurs under. It occurs during the execution of pxeboot.bs on brocade switches with vlan tagging enabled. We have begun to review the pxeboot.bs source code in order to get more debug information out of it and have opened a support case with Brocade. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi All, > > Are there significant differences in the implementation between the > tftp client in FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE and the client implementation in > pxeboot.bs? > > I ask because I have encountered a scenario where pxeboot.bs is > tftp'ing boot files from a PXE server and fails in random spots while > attempting to download boot files to start a 8.2-RELEASE install. > When we run the same sequence of tftp gets in a running 8.2-RELEASE > instance continuously, we never received a single failure in a solid > hour of attempts. > > -- > Take care > Rick Miller -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:24:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A12106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502148FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2EBOZrt058167 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:24:35 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2EBOZrt058167 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1331724275; bh=gFpkIjLXV2UZ3CfrK5Rs+RKpWtjtRyDkpwjakEnqSJ8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=njTiNbE7Y+n/EXXqBIuLMn/I8/afCU+3YbBkiyu5oVZopgFgJw3i8GNr+7deKc9UO 3obE7kZ5AhJJOI1isyzJOa4pC1WVqkxjkzJLaOduz481zB1/L36F6DfkaBfA8uEbTF 1bMh1X1CZTchCJyl06G5w81lResJZ0pWW5kqpgmI= Message-ID: <4F607FF3.30309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:24:35 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F605307.8070907@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4F607327.7010209@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F607327.7010209@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEC88C0AF562E5794F166447A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: start at boot, run as non-root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:24:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEC88C0AF562E5794F166447A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/03/2012 10:29, Da Rock wrote: > On 03/14/12 18:12, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote: >>> I have FreeBSD8.2. >>> Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports >>> collection >>> but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org. >>> I installed that. >>> To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna : >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> #!/bin/sh >>> # >>> # PROVIDE: sedna >>> # REQUIRE: DAEMON >>> # KEYWORD: shutdown >>> # >>> . /etc/rc.subr >>> >>> name=3D"sedna" >>> rcvar=3D${name}_enable >>> command=3D/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov >>> >>> load_rc_config $name >>> >>> : ${sedna_enable=3D"NO"} >>> >>> run_rc_command "$1" >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> and added sedna_enable=3D"YES" at the end of my /etc/rc.conf >>> >>> This way it starts at boot: >>> $ ps -jaxww | grep se_ >>> root 7064 1 7064 7064 0 Is ?? 0:00.00 >>> /home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address >>> localhost >>> -port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0= >>> -stack-depth 4000 >>> The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a use= r >>> 'sedna'' >>> >>> How can I do that? >>> >>> The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start= >>> the >>> program run as a different user .. >> Add a variable: >> >> ${name}_user=3Dsedna >> >> to the init script. The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the >> sedna process using your selected username. There's also ${name}_grou= p >> but that works a bit differently. >> >> I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD >> upstream, but not appear in ports. Are there some onerous license ter= ms >> or other obstacles[*]? If not, would you consider submitting your wor= k >> as a port? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> [*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/,= >> which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing >> would be an obstacle. > That would not be the problem, as the ports system can handle more > licenses than simply bsd compatible; Its merely recommended. To > illustrate, there are eval and commercial products in the ports tree. > You have to register and pay the organisation when you install and star= t > using (like komodo, others). The port is to ease installation on FreeBS= D > an app that would be widely used. Well, quite. Let me rephrase the question before everyone gets sidetracked into an interminable discussion of the horrible license terms they've been forced to endure. Is there any reason why sedna should not be added to the ports collection= ? I'm pretty certain the answer is "no" but having confirmation from someone who actually uses this software and knows a bit about it would be good. Having poked a bit at the sources, this looks like a pretty straightforward application to port -- it uses cmake(1) and there's plenty of both support for that and prior art to copy in the ports already. Would be a nice projectette for someone that wanted to get into porting. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigEC88C0AF562E5794F166447A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9gf/MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyR7ACfWUFfrFPgt/A82drX9x3U9rma BuoAnilXgGog/UPG91KlwAeLG5tFlkvN =lBS5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEC88C0AF562E5794F166447A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:32:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133F0106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2F58FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP158 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:32:47 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP158.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:32:46 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V79ld0BCrz2CG4w for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:32:44 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120314114536.03c8e808.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4F607263.7010309@qeng-ho.org> <20120314114536.03c8e808.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2012 11:32:46.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DBB6F60:01CD01D6] Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:32:54 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:45:36 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > //* OFFLIST > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400, Carmel wrote: > > Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite > > successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs > > with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly. > > This has changed with the upcoming version of their "Windows". > Check out this video and have a good laugh. > > http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8-fails-on-the-desktop-20120312/ > > ;-) Ah yes, your basic FUD rubbish. Win8 has not even been released. Many of the features are still in a state of flux. Complaining about something in an unreleased version of Windows is like complaining that FreeBSD-10 is a failure because (you fill in the blank). When it is released, then proper comparisons can be made. BTW, I read on another blog by a typical MS Hater that he hated the new interface because the mouse was no longer usable in the system. It turns out the "genius" was not aware of how to enable or disable the mouse. And yes, the "idiot" is a charter member of "slashdot". Go figure ... In addition, I really do not appreciate your trolling. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F360106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7508FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361711DC0E; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2EBhtab003555; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:43:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:43:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20120314124355.47949cd3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4F607263.7010309@qeng-ho.org> <20120314114536.03c8e808.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:43:58 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:32:44 -0400, Carmel wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:45:36 +0100 > Polytropon articulated: > > > //* OFFLIST As you carried this on-list again, allow me to reply in public. I do not appreciate your lack of humour (see explaination at the end). > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400, Carmel wrote: > > > Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite > > > successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs > > > with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly. > > > > This has changed with the upcoming version of their "Windows". > > Check out this video and have a good laugh. > > > > http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8-fails-on-the-desktop-20120312/ > > > > ;-) > > Ah yes, your basic FUD rubbish. Win8 has not even been released. Many > of the features are still in a state of flux. Your basic FUD rubbish. Specific features have been confirmed to be in the final release. The absence of the "well-known interaction starting point" is one of them. While I like some of "Windows 8"'s concepts especially for the mobile market, transitioning them 1:1 to the desktop _and its users_ will cause trouble, as you can see in the video. > Complaining about > something in an unreleased version of Windows is like complaining that > FreeBSD-10 is a failure because (you fill in the blank). When it is > released, then proper comparisons can be made. We will see. The main effect of "failure" will be when problems start hitting the support queues. Re-learning things has never been a great strength in "Windows" land, but maybe a radical change in usage paradigm isn't that bad. Also architectural changes (e. g. abandoning decades of legacy) are welcome by supporters and also by programmers. As I said, we will see. > BTW, I read on another blog by a typical MS Hater that he hated the > new interface because the mouse was no longer usable in the system. It > turns out the "genius" was not aware of how to enable or disable the > mouse. That's really stupid. Do not confuse me with a MICROS~1 hater. You would be surprised by the truth. > And yes, the "idiot" is a charter member of "slashdot". Go > figure ... I don't consume that kind of web content, sorry. > In addition, I really do not appreciate your trolling. You missed reading and interpreting the ";-)" appended. Better luck next time. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:49:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81A21065670 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59688FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (unknown-ip-614.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.113]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 51A2EB803; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:49:34 -0400 From: Rod Person To: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <20120314074934.000049c9@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4F605D79.4070500@qeng-ho.org> References: <4F605D79.4070500@qeng-ho.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10cvs7 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: nVidia card manufacturer recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:49:40 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:57:29 +0000 Arthur Chance wrote: > > Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or > which I should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520. > _______________________________________________ I have used cards from XFX and PNY without problem with the nvidia driver in the past. I'm currently using a FX1700 Quadro that came from an HP machine, it works without issue also, but I have not used any of the HP bios updates for it. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodperson@rodperson.com 'Silence is a fence around wisdom' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 13:00:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C541065677 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A108FC25 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2ED0U92007916 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:00:30 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F60966E.3050803@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:00:30 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <4F605D79.4070500@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <4F605D79.4070500@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: nVidia card manufacturer recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:00:32 -0000 On 03/14/12 08:57, Arthur Chance wrote: > Somewhere, possibly here, a while back I saw a remark that certain > manufacturer's nVidia cards worked reliably with the nVidia supplied > drivers and others usually have problems because they tweak nVidia's > reference spec. Of course, I didn't bookmark it and neither Google nor > searching the last years' worth of the freebsd-questions@ archives has > turned it up. > > Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or which I > should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520. I've just realised that I probably should have added "for an amd64 system". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 13:10:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F631065673 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE168FC1A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S7nyM-0000Ut-Ut for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:10:34 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:10:34 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:10:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <4F5E031D.5060203@gmail.com> <4F5F010D.20507@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2) Subject: Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:10:39 -0000 Volodymyr Kostyrko gmail.com> writes: > > Adam Vande More wrote: > >> I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After > >> upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory > >> was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot. > >> > > > > So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test. It doesn't mean it's not > > the culprit. Way too many false negatives from those things. > > True. First server was stacked with Kingston memory, and now I moved to > Hynix. And is still gives me sometimes ECC errors. > You mentioned that "it survives an hour in memtest". Update BIOS - the BIOS in some computers allow counting of detected and corrected memory errors, in part to help identify failing memory modules before the problem becomes catastrophic. Some BIOS have internal memory check tool. Try it. Some refs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 13:39:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AFF1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDE28FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.lan.locolomo.org (gamma.lan.locolomo.org [192.168.0.33]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98C541C0841 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:30:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F609D8F.5090007@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:30:55 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:39:49 -0000 Hi On 14/03/2012 11:44, Rick Miller wrote: > I thought I would follow up on this as a couple individuals expressed > an interest in it... > > We have isolated the configuration in which this occurs under. It > occurs during the execution of pxeboot.bs on brocade switches with > vlan tagging enabled. You might save yourself time and money buying a cheap switch and doing your jumpstart install on a separate closed network completely isolated from the rest of your networks, without VLAN tagging required. If you have lots of nodes to install it makes sense to maintain your own repository of freebsd and packages, and it's good practice to keep your preproduction systems separate from production, so there is no need for network access. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:33:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E0D1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBFE8FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20120314143259.GVWY6650.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:32:59 +0000 Received: from [94.168.171.147] (helo=Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) 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YXJkcw0KDQpHcmFlbWUNCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:51:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60BF106566C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (adsl-70-129-195-213.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net [70.129.195.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594F08FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2EFj5E1005019 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:45:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:45:05 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Mail-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.6 Subject: flowcleaner running away with CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:51:37 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 8.2-REALEASE-p5 system that is running as a Squid proxy server, after some complaints for internet performance I logged into the system to take a look, and discovered the flowcleaner process is consuming 100% on one CPU. I did some searching, and have discovered that there have been some bugs in the past with this, and found the flowing command listed as a work around. sysctl net.inet.flowtable.enable=0 I tried this, but there was no change, is this something that has to be done in the sysctl.conf configuration file that doesn't take effect until a reboot? Or is there a process I can restart that will at least temporarily resolve this issue without completely interrupting internet traffic for a few hundred users? last pid: 51636; load averages: 1.03, 1.10, 1.09 up 50+02:41:37 10:35:09 89 processes: 4 running, 71 sleeping, 14 waiting CPU: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 49.7% system, 0.6% interrupt, 49.3% idle Mem: 722M Active, 765M Inact, 415M Wired, 24M Cache, 213M Buf, 47M Free Swap: 4061M Total, 212K Used, 4061M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 2 171 ki31 0K 32K RUN 0 2019.8 100.00% idle 19 root 1 76 - 0K 16K CPU0 0 349.3H 100.00% flowcleaner 58759 squid 1 45 0 626M 594M select 0 683:15 2.98% squid 0 root 7 8 0 0K 96K - 1 1510.7 0.00% kernel 12 root 14 -60 - 0K 224K WAIT 1 362:54 0.00% intr 17 root 1 44 - 0K 16K syncer 1 61:43 0.00% syncer 1095 root 1 44 0 96672K 75432K select 1 36:11 0.00% vmtoolsd 13 root 1 -16 - 0K 16K - 1 16:10 0.00% yarrow -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer dweimer@dweimer.net http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:20:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7644106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@y42.org) Received: from mail.y42.org (smtp.y42.org [194.97.145.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6871F8FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.y42.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA84EBF6B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at y42.org Received: from mail.y42.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dna.y42.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FfCK3EpLxSOp for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (p5DE97E79.dip.t-dialin.net [93.233.126.121]) (Authenticated sender: lists@dna.y42.org) by mail.y42.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F60C34B.50105@y42.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0100 From: IMAP List Administration User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: satisfying package dependencies from installation DVD when building a port -- HOW? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:20:58 -0000 Hello, I've just installed 9.0-RELEASE (amd64) in a KVM/Qemo VM on debian linux, which is extremely painful because of the abysmal I/O performance, and would like to build the virtio-kmod. After unpacking src.txz (xz -c /cd/usr/freebsd-dist/src.txz | tar xf -) I did the following: # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtio-kmo # make clean install at this point I saw port names such as perl, tcl, neon, sqlite, etc fly past. Apparently the ports system satisfies dependencies from the ports tree by default. Since I have not updated anything, it seems reasonable, and much less painful to satisfy the dependencies using the packages on the installation DVD, which is mounted on /cd. I tried setting PKG_PATH to "/cd/packages" and to "/cd/packages/All", but when I simply try to test using, for example, "pkg_add perl" pkg_add simply says "can't stat package file". I'm guessing it would be pointless to try to use a (remote) URL in PACKAGEROOT, as the "-r" flag *must* be give in order for pkg_add to honor the setting, and god knows how the ports system calls pkg_add, if at all. I had a long look in the docs, but this stuff doesn't *seem* to be documented :( Is it possible to get the ports system to satisfy dependencies using the packages from the installation DVD? If so, how????? cheers, Robert Urban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:50:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3A6106566B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA668FC15 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950373D1E6; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:50:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2EGo38F005352; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:50:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:50:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: IMAP List Administration Message-Id: <20120314175003.c324d322.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F60C34B.50105@y42.org> References: <4F60C34B.50105@y42.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: satisfying package dependencies from installation DVD when building a port -- HOW? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:50:06 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0100, IMAP List Administration wrote: > Hello, > > I've just installed 9.0-RELEASE (amd64) in a KVM/Qemo VM on debian linux, which > is extremely painful because of the abysmal I/O performance, and would like to > build the virtio-kmod. After unpacking src.txz (xz -c > /cd/usr/freebsd-dist/src.txz | tar xf -) I did the following: > > # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtio-kmo > # make clean install > > at this point I saw port names such as perl, tcl, neon, sqlite, etc fly past. You can use the command # make missing to get a list of which dependencies need to be installed. See "man 7 ports" for other targets that might be useful. > Apparently the ports system satisfies dependencies from the ports tree by default. Correct. Dependencies are resolved and installed (usually by compiling them from source, installing and registering them), then the initial build is returned to. > Since I have not updated anything, it seems reasonable, and much less painful to > satisfy the dependencies using the packages on the installation DVD, which is > mounted on /cd. If the default options of the dependency ports are fine for you, this should be no problem. > I tried setting PKG_PATH to "/cd/packages" and to "/cd/packages/All", but when I > simply try to test using, for example, "pkg_add perl" pkg_add simply says "can't > stat package file". Change CWD to the location of the packages (on CD) and try again. According to "man pkg_add": If the packages are not found in the current working directory, pkg_add will search them in each directory named by PKG_PATH. If there's still an error, can you provide the command you entered plus the output? Maybe adding -v helps to give some more information. > I'm guessing it would be pointless to try to use a (remote) URL in PACKAGEROOT, > as the "-r" flag *must* be give in order for pkg_add to honor the setting, and > god knows how the ports system calls pkg_add, if at all. The ports do not use pkg_add. However, using a tool like portmaster or portinstall can help you using binary packages (options -P and -PP). If you use pkg_add -r, some "more magic" will be applied to form the proper URI for fetching the packages (e. g. architecture and OS version may be considered). > I had a long look in the docs, but this stuff doesn't *seem* to be documented :( I don't remember any particular documentation regarding this procedure. The pkg_add command should automatically install dependencies (option -i to prevent). > Is it possible to get the ports system to satisfy dependencies using the > packages from the installation DVD? If so, how????? I think that's possible; I hope you got some inspiration. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:00:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337F51065676 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91858FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so1330586eek.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:00:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=1iXPSOUIIpB2UhQMJKQmf00ltOieAYkIUtKLY7FluWg=; b=HP+6GjEnOu4APTnM0SAetDeX/0dtCl2q+EbjDhJlzLd6eIroPttHjlwMs8lpSy4kBg bOkTCEr1UYjeD7Qa5b4SWQuPobv2o6pHGO5oigXyUUSbBnPkj+knmXQQNhQsYroY9IZ2 1LYEpcgh9PrpYpKqJV00e+O6f/KKcRCrD5R6RmmfoM7QHXBcXcqB+llBwNdR7I0Zawi4 rLgaupVfIF1sNFT9IWLEgW1z4vKeION294ZRWgUtgNnP9TE+HjIQ8ryTMboLPlyXqpUa HGkEimHbi3L1nir4B1Ua/YIXZg37K1Q5j6Ary44cuqDCi/ciFoZr8+c9PqJZjEfHpNq2 SIsg== Received: by 10.14.95.208 with SMTP id p56mr474356eef.129.1331744445345; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.palm.com ([82.132.248.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n56sm15353195eeb.4.2012.03.14.10.00.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4f60cebc.d02c0e0a.50df.611d@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:00:42 +0000 From: "Peter Harrison" To: "FreeBSD" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Palm webOS Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:00:52 -0000 So= rry for top posting - my 'phone makes it difficult. I use Mediatomb = very successfully to serve video from my FreeBSD server to my DLNA digibox.= Moderately easy to setup and a breeze once up and running. <= span id=3D"signature"> -- Peter Harrison = From: Carmel Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10= :39 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folde= rs on FreeBSD visible on HD TV On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 += 0000=0D Arthur Chance articulated:=0D =0D > On 03/13/12 19:54, = Carmel wrote:=0D > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500=0D >= > Adam Vande More articulated:=0D > >=0D > >> Are = you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA=0D > >&g= t; server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.=0D >= >=0D > > A couple of people have replied to this thread. The S= amba shares are=0D > > configured correctly and are visible on my = Windows based PCs. I=0D > > have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA= =2E I never had to configure=0D > > anything, other than sharing t= he folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so=0D > > am I to assume that DLN= A is always available on that OS? Anyway, I=0D > > will try your s= uggestion.=0D > =0D > I have a Sony networked TV, and it defini= tely needs a DLNA server and=0D > is very picky about what formats ar= e served. I'm not a Windows user=0D > but I have the impression Home = or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7=0D > have DLNA support built i= n.=0D > =0D > Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog = posts on getting=0D > Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this= and the related posts:=0D > =0D > http://www.leidinger.net/blo= g/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/=0D =0D I did some checking.= Win7, all versions, have support built into it.=0D Apparently Vista and= WinXP were updated with support via the Microsoft=0D Update system. I h= ave to admit, that does make for a very "user=0D friendly" environment. = Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite=0D successfully. I have= several friends who have integrated their TVs with=0D their home PC qui= te successfully and painlessly.=0D =0D I am still studying how to mak= e FreeBSD similarly "user friendly".=0D Thanks for the link.=0D =0D-- =0D Carmel=0D carmel_ny@hotmail.com=0D =0D _______________= ________________________________=0D freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailin= g list=0D http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D= To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg"=0D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:21:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1071065675 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists.dan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CADA8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so2941855vcm.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+/MYZlEQYV8BPrMld4bc2cLQSsADQdRVyWFgSvhxC/I=; b=j3S8HwEg8NQaYtGjK/oLTPub9X9T58hEI6z5CZb41yWgJISZ9Lt8hn8vuxQNuFK9Xo iivlfHHPNw06BCFB0ZZZxkqh2o2PW36wgOy2Ei6WgGAG/mG3CC/bNbSiDT6PLQOnE9nm KvDX8UTAihWpki09AC/TtdaF3ZTfDdVmZMm/sG952FskFz+4ozlC6WkM+lZGD+O2+LkU GKlkRt3aP295KoPdLb5EPsVvmmyT3nIJcRBVtig7XPfO/zeSi8r8agnooZBBq3gzR8Sm +LYMTBXrfWd1rBdRAEKr8HMATw5mhk6ZcEGbHc7JrYhRu4+zTuoBPjWCrxuk2AHpCAlX ymKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.21.51 with SMTP id s19mr2534195vde.35.1331745684309; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.186.228 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:21:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dan Lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: USA Anonymous CVS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:21:25 -0000 >From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html USA: anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs (For ssh, use ssh version 2 and no password is required.) SSH2 HostKey: 2048 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62 /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub Example A-2. Using SSH to Check Out the src/ Tree: % cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (216.87.78.137)' can't be established. DSA key fingerprint is 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of known hosts. However, when I acutally issue the command, I get a different DSA key, different IP, and it will not accept any password: # cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (96.47.72.116)' can't be established. DSA key fingerprint is 4e:bc:48:a0:e1:27:0a:62:c8:da:45:31:d4:ad:b2:00. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of known hosts. Password: Password: Password: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) Is the USA anonymous CVS server no longer operational? Thanks, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:36:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735DB106566B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuanmingtan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fa0-f54.google.com (mail-fa0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083C98FC18 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faas10 with SMTP id s10so569143faa.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:36:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vcDj36ARux3Nv7Exw5FjGz3XHmFHKpbTXJh7UjQcmW0=; b=qlRzH8fBeOU+CHU6o3HgBxQz0Jden9PgC8ip5Xq3D/fYVEbrsJ/zFabZ1UT+e8ddrB eRM3TyeNIKTP1vDGR+w9bDLOXSSg0AuLaM/k6PD/0UmXUvpf2Vup4+w3/nOTa/6RpcUZ iYj3xat20crGTPX3Zs3Wjbk+Pgz3by6rFp2HVgMLxTq0KDVGCjrHyV6DaChylFG2NEH7 OvsLiRFNAnjJhdVNrCDBPGn+PUdVcPnlsAZIQHpAhMyD+GOutGILEwdlO2x5+4gam/Q1 1mdnbB8Tmh9OCWndXQucHXFCAVyxDe0Lz4pSHnLNt9QJuOWC6D8FpRRwShch6+X/FuNN 7QSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.33.212 with SMTP id i20mr4020022qad.56.1331746588190; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kuanmingtan@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.18.11 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:36:28 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: axg0-tC0I1TRUXkI_MdDJUNEIEU Message-ID: From: Kuan Ming Tan To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:42:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Inquiry from University student X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: c3138375@uon.edu.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:36:35 -0000 Hi, Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD? Hope to receive your reply soon! -- Regards, Tan Kuan Ming From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:02:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAD5106564A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2716A8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so2563621ghr.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/3tIY+4gIOLxZc1CAUeg/UNuZM2EexjFJV3jBUOWZ5s=; b=rk1J8621Pc2BgU/z+UxFPV5jzHpwuWgiinnge3bDqaO/762O686XyoPeNGg1GKWRhV rm678cCKsuxg3JfbgrZCp2pCfIh9oK5gInU/m/J+xCda3pWR7onGtQZ9d+Vjis8rB/lK bS8RSy1uaxosny+b7rqzgxjqRUfuUr8mUNKqEyKLOGaHm10L++PEgTwvdJYjiW63Tcf3 a55vCak6j7S/fRP55mgRgq0VMJgpclyYamDikCQJoQHvfh9CzwyKu8j/pk/IVs+zkxH8 NrGQkSHCNNKkLj5thhCxz88Pdln4M/CJjL5n1ZM+T8+H1B6ZziKZE6jRNhhhVVpKj+S6 jN3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.109.106 with SMTP id hr10mr4726342obb.27.1331748128301; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.163 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:02:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: c3138375@uon.edu.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry from University student X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:02:09 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kuan Ming Tan wrote: > Hi, > Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you > provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD? > > Hope to receive your reply soon! > > -- > Regards, > Tan Kuan Ming > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html#INTRODUCTION-NUTSHELL-USERS Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:06:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDAC106574D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044F18FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q2EI7fRT069546; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:07:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201203141807.q2EI7fRT069546@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: c3138375@uon.edu.au In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry from University student X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:06:31 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 14 12:47:15 2012 > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:36:28 +0800 > From: Kuan Ming Tan > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Inquiry from University student > > Hi, > Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you > provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD? > > Hope to receive your reply soon! Apple. Sony. Juniper Systems. just to name a few. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:16:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1381065673 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthewstory@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0951B8FC15 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so3017688vcm.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GaPSwYTJIDuziqkaU78Z6WzLZ0n32NxOR5yAy8WBgfM=; b=GI+1CO022IJRio80xPlEPKi+l+THU9UbHfF3mfckoMkEyfO+C+mgzkFxyZcKmmwQMs G4wXcF+tec5QPIMDTCevNtFSqPz0b7p27qjj/4bCoUsEyNPWYLVr0z3I/gCfwm2gPqxz tHAuMxCvgaVxZfBZHDM2SQSHeHkmU+7O+XYE+940UmO+gbAn/oNBnvwdniFizoT1TuVW sMVvugUlLpPkSsXHXalBBh5mGC/uH7G2wL6ygETm0vgt6StANlq/TxMSkRzNKzT1w2/w ewRjL0PXutiBeHxmp4ZR7c2G5CFpMY8g4qKYwnJvacBhYcrM/zeGaihczd6ftmSnc2X0 KBJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.28.228 with SMTP id e4mr2614944vdh.57.1331749014456; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.93.42 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:16:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201203141807.q2EI7fRT069546@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201203141807.q2EI7fRT069546@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Matthew Story To: c3138375@uon.edu.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry from University student X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:16:55 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 14 12:47:15 2012 > > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:36:28 +0800 > > From: Kuan Ming Tan > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Cc: > > Subject: Inquiry from University student > > > > Hi, > > Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can > you > > provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD? > > > > Hope to receive your reply soon! > > Apple. > > Sony. > > Juniper Systems. > > just to name a few. > eadler sent this link out on the nyc*bug talk list earlier in the week, an incomplete list, but a good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_products_based_on_FreeBSD > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:41:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13981065672 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAF08FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so2615716ghr.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=f8ibrYP6qEzy45K7AhGn8f3DT4t7nwNt3a74Bc/GfBQ=; b=TqwOubScGo4WM3cTpD4fIKl3MnbVGST7L85NYgs51UTdK6rlTgCk+0IdN4nkfLuxwQ Nj42zeKNLv7SiX3CqVYllhTlxFlshG1B+8wLKAQlrr5P1TzhliEI4FX+yvRU5qLFY6Wi GRXadX+4DKkwL72JilkUmh0tFHGGN8zePBghlZsR9cia3UCYMoXlGz5jU1dHn6pX2Yz1 iPOC4T8oBtgw9NnL8erTU9dh9zl817zv+K8bImG7ECx9Go4XFBVOIcScyC+/aTsyJMRq JBghi7tZ4ytbsajQDfX6Zkw8PWydj+sWyh/pJXr86cUPsStdrpp9ueNkCIRTAErngE5o 6V0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.108.97 with SMTP id hj1mr4779584obb.37.1331750514715; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.163 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:41:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: c3138375@uon.edu.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry from University student X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:41:55 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kuan Ming Tan wrote: > Hi, > Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you > provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD? > > Hope to receive your reply soon! > > -- > Regards, > Tan Kuan Ming > http://www.ixsystems.com/ix/support/software/freebsd-support?gclid=CIXb__mD564CFcJN3wodBk3TjA http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/software_bycat.html http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consult_bycat.html http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/misc.html http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:30:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAE6106566B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140C08FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 725E0E804C2; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:30:08 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120314193008.GA19731@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> <20120314040930.8e1c3d02.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F602576.4070501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F602576.4070501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:30:09 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000 > From: Da Rock > Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote: > >On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > >> i have heard about the "848" or whatever cards for years. > >> should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood > >> everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the > >> links....offline i f you think it wise to spare the > >> bandwidth. > >Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model > >name is "Haupauge WinTV" and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. > >It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). > >A "problem" may be that it is a PCI card. > > > >The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the > >tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying > >and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the > >card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed > >from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also > >need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your > >sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be > >"combined" and the result can be stored as a video file in > >any format and container you want. > > > >This is the card: > > > >bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x040000 card=0x13eb0070 > > chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' > > device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' > > class = multimedia > > subclass = video > > > >The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, > >audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) > > > >You need the kernel modules loaded per > > > > bktr_load="YES" > > > >in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. > >No need to manually and interactively install a "driver". :-) > > > >The player command is something like > > > > % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 > > > >and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be > >adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. > > > >I'm not sure how to handle TV ("antenna") input as I've always > >been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's > >documentation that may help: > > > > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html > > > >It also contains an example to "record to file", which will > >implement the "software video tape recoder" functionality. > Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to > DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or > need for them. > > The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), > including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port > to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the > card is USB based and use webcamd. > > Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC. GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill just skip it for now. i have my feed from my local telco, not an antenna.... thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well live without the card. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:39:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985D3106566B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidianwalker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D0F8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so3791857iah.13 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vFgvyie+qL7NsQMu4Un5A08SDg2HOnvOzaYtS5LyXMQ=; b=PhEDqo/2eFjv4kR/h/4Z0etZwljgk4D2HBVWQiCV73rOgjNlEqPoy7E/ASIJw2Aor5 JuUO1MGnUdXS6rJs77kB3/nqQj4tIYIBMefsAGvsg8uM4NzEALgXWZd19FXzD1x7z2Ke MS27vfobsyFt0DN2lwwpEzpA06YNabJj9lBhRU20EKlWnto/FGbR+6fAsJvkt0rEhjCM v4Ixk2CVwgalmh/9MFhxA10qJvv26EPteqpD1LGl1ykme2zLv7X6s/QJzJPvOL5oqr5K eOiwwI6asRsSR5U14q3a+8dTjyq9SnmBQKXWrRX1u/60kr3FqcXxRDZyXaUYnJ6oWHY5 Ck3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr5688236icb.33.1331761185851; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.96.6 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:09:45 +1030 Message-ID: From: David Walker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:39:46 -0000 Hey. I had installed 9.0 to a SATA drive (ada1 I think) and went to install Windows on a higher numbered drive but Windows doesn't like that or so I gathered. Anyway, I moved drives around and installed Windows - FreeBSD is now ada2 I think. I'm used to OpenBSD where fixing this is a vi fstab ... What's the procedure on FreeBSD? Best wishes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:14:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE8A1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6678FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E715C28 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:28:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 356AD5C22 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:28:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F612515.3080803@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:09:09 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> <20120314040930.8e1c3d02.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F602576.4070501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120314193008.GA19731@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20120314193008.GA19731@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:14:30 -0000 On 03/15/12 05:30, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000 >> From: Da Rock >> Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >>>> i have heard about the "848" or whatever cards for years. >>>> should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood >>>> everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the >>>> links....offline i f you think it wise to spare the >>>> bandwidth. >>> Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model >>> name is "Haupauge WinTV" and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. >>> It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). >>> A "problem" may be that it is a PCI card. >>> >>> The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the >>> tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying >>> and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the >>> card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed >> >from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also >>> need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your >>> sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be >>> "combined" and the result can be stored as a video file in >>> any format and container you want. >>> >>> This is the card: >>> >>> bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x040000 card=0x13eb0070 >>> chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' >>> device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' >>> class = multimedia >>> subclass = video >>> >>> The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, >>> audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) >>> >>> You need the kernel modules loaded per >>> >>> bktr_load="YES" >>> >>> in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. >>> No need to manually and interactively install a "driver". :-) >>> >>> The player command is something like >>> >>> % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 >>> >>> and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be >>> adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. >>> >>> I'm not sure how to handle TV ("antenna") input as I've always >>> been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's >>> documentation that may help: >>> >>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html >>> >>> It also contains an example to "record to file", which will >>> implement the "software video tape recoder" functionality. >> Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to >> DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or >> need for them. >> >> The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), >> including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port >> to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the >> card is USB based and use webcamd. >> >> Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC. > > GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill > just skip it for now. i have my feed from my local telco, > not an antenna.... > > thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well > live without the card. > > gary Sorry Gary; It wasn't entirely for your sake that this came up. For your instance I'd suggest becoming very familiar with mplayer/mencoder and friends. You can then pick up the stream and re-encode to your liking. There are some addons in web browser that can help grab the video as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 01:11:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA08F106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EDE8FC20 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadp14 with SMTP id p14so10427904dad.18 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:11:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=erPApsh9hsthWpzSwb0QkrO2n9icZQ69TixopjrVNbI=; b=bORvuveUlfic0DEjPQV7yc+S5WKC6FJ11kcmIy2M3o6t5vjLzd7p9tfMI8YPn9iUZX I81ggmXP+n8zZxNd7o/SfiNSQNm36vbR5J+jB9rT418yH7MbwoTdxqi9MDsIJZdvneMG ubsVLKMcOqhxjwsVt8CI2SsOzbim1Q2Ku8wotOSDnAxBsesKCWx2p3MnPkCuRpuYVMoV B14ImzjBt1/mt/B1wGLRlJjddy+pJ0pAr9WUfwdC2QMqxSLOZd//1amfmCVhQXWxPf33 HmI2dcMixJ/1P0Hzh9dKkKcHrXKuqvAie5ZZnOUKLh4p7RvVAcEjyNRI/UoZhZSDsoPq 50mQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.239.195 with SMTP id vu3mr534117pbc.49.1331773881281; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.116.2 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:11:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: David Walker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:11:21 -0000 On 14 March 2012 17:39, David Walker wrote: > Hey. > > I had installed 9.0 to a SATA drive (ada1 I think) and went to install > Windows on a higher numbered drive but Windows doesn't like that or so > I gathered. > Anyway, I moved drives around and installed Windows - FreeBSD is now > ada2 I think. > I'm used to OpenBSD where fixing this is a vi fstab ... > What's the procedure on FreeBSD? > Yes, you can change the fstab (if you can get in via mountroot: at the boot prompt, I believe) from single user mode. If you'd've used labels (either glabel or tunefs -L) you'd not have to change your /etc/fstab at all. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 02:01:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10B2106566B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rocky@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9A38FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188155C28 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:15:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A26345C22 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:15:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F614C46.20206@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:56:22 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Racoon failed to get subjectAltName X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:01:43 -0000 I could be wrong in my assumption, but I cannot seem to get this to work for me and this error will not disappear while my problem continues. I'm trying to get a RoadWarrior setup for an Android L2TP/IPSec vpn. I had it working at one time on my LAN but failed getting through the pf firewall, so I stowed it while I was required to work on something else; unfortunately I lost the working config somehow (I think? This could be just the bug) and I had to start again- no biggie as I pulled the info off the net before so I could do it again. I recreated some new certificates (the old ones I used to test had expired- I only gave them a very short life for security reasons), and recreated what I thought I had before using xca (same as previously). These include the mandatory SAN: I use email:copy to set this. No amount of googling has helped my investigations, everything is still basically the same age as when I first set this up. But racoon insists the SAN is unavailable now. I've also tried turning off verify identity, but in spite it says the certificates don't match because of empty certificate requests; it would seem that it is still looking for the SAN even though it no longer says so. Googling also verifies that racoon _requires_ SAN to be set to work. I've tried other SAN types, but they don't seem to work either. A check on the certificate shows that it _is_ actually there on all the certificates, but racoon must be blind or something :) Can anyone shed some light on this? Has racoon developed a bug on this at some time? FWIW racoon wont even pass phase1 so I'd assume it is not working because of this problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 03:59:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C47A106566C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 03:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63A18FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 03:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04711E478; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:59:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2F3xTWF001947; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:59:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:59:29 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20120315045929.ee43ab20.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120314193008.GA19731@thought.org> References: <20120311202816.GA7754@thought.org> <20120311221958.37717d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F5D3954.1090807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5EB08D.7090407@ShaneWare.Biz> <4F5EB36A.4090609@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120313210636.GD10311@thought.org> <4F5FB8CC.8080303@puresimplicity.net> <20120314021946.GA7043@thought.org> <20120314040930.8e1c3d02.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F602576.4070501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120314193008.GA19731@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 03:59:40 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:30:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000 > > From: Da Rock > > Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote: > > >On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > >> i have heard about the "848" or whatever cards for years. > > >> should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood > > >> everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the > > >> links....offline i f you think it wise to spare the > > >> bandwidth. > > >Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model > > >name is "Haupauge WinTV" and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. > > >It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). > > >A "problem" may be that it is a PCI card. > > > > > >The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the > > >tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying > > >and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the > > >card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed > > >from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also > > >need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your > > >sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be > > >"combined" and the result can be stored as a video file in > > >any format and container you want. > > > > > >This is the card: > > > > > >bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x040000 card=0x13eb0070 > > > chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 > > > vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' > > > device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' > > > class = multimedia > > > subclass = video > > > > > >The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, > > >audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) > > > > > >You need the kernel modules loaded per > > > > > > bktr_load="YES" > > > > > >in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. > > >No need to manually and interactively install a "driver". :-) > > > > > >The player command is something like > > > > > > % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 > > > > > >and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be > > >adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. > > > > > >I'm not sure how to handle TV ("antenna") input as I've always > > >been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's > > >documentation that may help: > > > > > > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html > > > > > >It also contains an example to "record to file", which will > > >implement the "software video tape recoder" functionality. > > Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to > > DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or > > need for them. > > > > The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), > > including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port > > to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the > > card is USB based and use webcamd. > > > > Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC. > > > GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill > just skip it for now. i have my feed from my local telco, > not an antenna.... The BrookTree TV tuner component doesn't make a big difference here. Both the antenna and the cable will deliver a "frequency conglomerate" of the available TV programs which the tuner chip can select from. If you require a specific cable receiver with video-out, you can send its signal to the card's video-on (and the audio-out of the receiver to your computer's sound card's line-in), skipping the part where the TV card has to select a TV program. Both methods work fine. > thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well > live without the card. In that case, try to find a web presence that allows you to down- load or to stream (and in conclusion, to download) the TV programs. This makes you independent of airing time (which probably is a good thing). Maybe there's also a service like OnlineTVRecorder.com ("Your personal multichannel tv recorder") available for you, providing downloads for the programs you want in AVI or OTRKEY format. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 08:27:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE17A106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DAF8FC1E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2F8RvrJ004440; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:27:57 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F61A80D.4050103@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:27:57 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David Walker Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:27:59 -0000 On 03/15/12 01:11, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 14 March 2012 17:39, David Walker wrote: >> Hey. >> >> I had installed 9.0 to a SATA drive (ada1 I think) and went to install >> Windows on a higher numbered drive but Windows doesn't like that or so >> I gathered. >> Anyway, I moved drives around and installed Windows - FreeBSD is now >> ada2 I think. >> I'm used to OpenBSD where fixing this is a vi fstab ... >> What's the procedure on FreeBSD? >> > > Yes, you can change the fstab (if you can get in via mountroot: > at the boot prompt, I believe) from single user mode. If you'd've > used labels (either glabel or tunefs -L) you'd not have to change > your /etc/fstab at all. > I'll second that remark on labelling filesystems. My life has become much easier since I did all mine - the 8.2->9.0 disk naming switch from /dev/ad to /dev/ada had absolutely no effect. Take a look at Warren Block's excellent page on the subject: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 12:00:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BEF106566B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6A68FC17 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2012 08:00:23 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BQK91451; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:00:22 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2012 08:00:22 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20321.55765.596459.468145@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:00:21 -0400 To: Arthur Chance In-Reply-To: <4F61A80D.4050103@qeng-ho.org> References: <4F61A80D.4050103@qeng-ho.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: David Walker , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:00:30 -0000 Arthur Chance writes: > I'll second that remark on labelling filesystems. My life has become > much easier since I did all mine - the 8.2->9.0 disk naming switch from > /dev/ad to /dev/ada had absolutely no effect. Take a look at > Warren Block's excellent page on the subject: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html /Caveat emptor/: following these instructions, I have been unable to get this to work on FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 11 08:20:02 EDT 2012 amd64 Specificelly, the drives get labeled, but the infrastructure necessary to mount using those labels does not happen. After talking with Warren, all we can figure out is it isn't just me. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 12:38:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC02E1065670 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684818FC23 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0F05C2D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:51:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE0E45C2B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:51:54 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F61E17F.9090101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:33:03 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F614C46.20206@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F614C46.20206@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Racoon failed to get subjectAltName X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:38:24 -0000 On 03/15/12 11:56, Da Rock wrote: > I could be wrong in my assumption, but I cannot seem to get this to > work for me and this error will not disappear while my problem continues. > > I'm trying to get a RoadWarrior setup for an Android L2TP/IPSec vpn. I > had it working at one time on my LAN but failed getting through the pf > firewall, so I stowed it while I was required to work on something > else; unfortunately I lost the working config somehow (I think? This > could be just the bug) and I had to start again- no biggie as I pulled > the info off the net before so I could do it again. > > I recreated some new certificates (the old ones I used to test had > expired- I only gave them a very short life for security reasons), and > recreated what I thought I had before using xca (same as previously). > These include the mandatory SAN: I use email:copy to set this. > > No amount of googling has helped my investigations, everything is > still basically the same age as when I first set this up. But racoon > insists the SAN is unavailable now. I've also tried turning off verify > identity, but in spite it says the certificates don't match because of > empty certificate requests; it would seem that it is still looking for > the SAN even though it no longer says so. Googling also verifies that > racoon _requires_ SAN to be set to work. > > I've tried other SAN types, but they don't seem to work either. A > check on the certificate shows that it _is_ actually there on all the > certificates, but racoon must be blind or something :) > > Can anyone shed some light on this? Has racoon developed a bug on this > at some time? > > FWIW racoon wont even pass phase1 so I'd assume it is not working > because of this problem. Just to update, phase 1 is half working if verify is off: there is a phase 1 connection between the server and android, but not between android and the server- hence my confusion and erroneous assumption. Only the android logs showed this problem. Phase 2 never comes (of course). Something does feel different getting this to work this time round, I just can't put my finger on it. And I cant figure what I've done differently. I still can't get my certificates right somehow. I'm not sure what I'm missing here either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 12:54:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51D5106566C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ded1@MyBSD.org.my) Received: from kasumi.nsc.gov.my (megatron.nsc.gov.my [115.133.176.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AC28FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kasumi.nsc.gov.my (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kasumi.nsc.gov.my (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200A60ADC9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:54:06 +0800 (MYT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mybsd.org.my; h= message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=outbound; bh=mFh19+UHBM+e8oZrhl4mfsFD9JXZm4MiZtNaD6BIs9s=; b=l55hR60i2L9J QuzfS1SdromvI1ytijQ23Fn7zV76tYDcfjal3Q3VP/tYUk2kInEi84wTs2EOuMjQ DX3siqhw8GKC+76HKD7+M2g9WAMlESC/K5R+JKY3E7cM/sEJQYuSgXirVfrWWTeS E3WI7rRk6jWDsITjZdQNTyr0zLztEOk= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [115.133.163.133]) by kasumi.nsc.gov.my (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D483160AD0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:54:05 +0800 (MYT) Message-ID: <4F61E772.9060806@MyBSD.org.my> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:58:26 +0800 From: Ahmad Faisal Organization: MyBSD Malaysia Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F61E61E.9080109@MyBSD.org.my> In-Reply-To: <4F61E61E.9080109@MyBSD.org.my> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <4F61E61E.9080109@MyBSD.org.my> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120315-0, 15/03/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Problem with FreeBSD working with squid and WCCPv2 Cisco 6500 series X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ded1@MyBSD.org.my List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:54:09 -0000 Hi, i have some query and would like to ask anyone on squid with cisco catalyst 6500 switch with wccpv2 My setup: - squid2.7-stable9 on freebsd 7.2-RELEASE - cisco switch catalyst 6500 with ios 12.2(33)SXJ1 Internet | | --------- Cisco FWSM firewall | | | | | cisco switch catalyst 6500 (Core switch) 10.4.10.1 DMZ Segment | | | | Internal LAN (10.0.0.0/8) | | | | Squid box User (202.188.244.8) FreeBSD conf : ------------------------ ifconfig gre0 ------------- gre0: flags=d051 metric 0 mtu 1476 tunnel inet 202.188.244.8 --> 10.4.10.1 inet 202.188.244.8 --> 192.168.249.2 netmask 0xffffffff ipnat rules: ---------------- rdr bce0 0.0.0.0/0 port 80 -> 202.188.244.8 port 7788 rdr bce0 0.0.0.0/0 port 443 -> 202.188.244.8 port 7788 rdr gre0 0.0.0.0/0 port 80 -> 202.188.244.8 port 7788 rdr gre0 0.0.0.0/0 port 443 -> 202.188.244.8 port 7788 ipf rules: ------------- pass in log first on gre0 all pass out log first on gre0 all pass in log first on bce0 all pass out log first on bce0 all /etc/rc.conf ----------------- ifconfig_bce0="inet 202.188.244.8 netmask 255.255.255.0" cloned_interfaces="gre0" ifconfig_gre0="inet 202.188.244.8 192.168.249.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 link2 tunnel 202.188.244.8 10.4.10.1 up" sysctl.conf -------------- net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 net.inet.ip.fastforwarding: 1 squid.conf ------------------- wccp2_router 10.4.10.1 wccp2_forwarding_method 1 wccp2_return_method 1 wccp2_service standard 0 wccp2_address 0.0.0.0 wccp2_assignment_method 1 Cisco 6500 output: ------------------- #show ip wccp web-cache Global WCCP information: Router information: Router Identifier: 192.168.250.2 Protocol Version: 2.0 Service Identifier: web-cache Number of Service Group Clients: 1 Number of Service Group Routers: 1 Total Packets s/w Redirected: 3799 Process: 0 CEF: 3799 Redirect access-list: 120 Total Packets Denied Redirect: 0 Total Packets Unassigned: 382 Group access-list: 20 Total Messages Denied to Group: 0 Total Authentication failures: 0 Total Bypassed Packets Received: 0 #show ip wccp web-cache detail WCCP Client information: WCCP Client ID: 202.188.244.8 Protocol Version: 2.0 State: Usable Redirection: GRE Packet Return: GRE Assignment: HASH Initial Hash Info: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000 Assigned Hash Info: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Hash Allotment: 256 (100.00%) Packets s/w Redirected: 3139 Connect Time: 00:48:27 Bypassed Packets Process: 0 CEF: 0 Errors: 0 squid cache log: 2012/03/14 19:31:51| wccp2HereIam: sending to service id 0 2012/03/14 19:31:51| Sending HereIam packet size 144 2012/03/14 19:31:51| Incoming WCCPv2 I_SEE_YOU length 132. 2012/03/14 19:31:51| Complete packet received 2012/03/14 19:31:51| Incoming WCCP2_I_SEE_YOU Received ID old=1591 new=1592. 2012/03/14 19:31:51| Cleaning out cache list Cisco 6500 debug message: *Mar 14 18:53:43.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_update_assignment_status: enter *Mar 14 18:53:43.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_update_assignment_status: exit *Mar 14 18:53:43.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_validate_wc_assignments: enter *Mar 14 18:53:43.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_validate_wc_assignments: not mask assignment, exit *Mar 14 18:53:43.291: WCCP-PKT:S00: Sending I_See_You packet to 202.188.244.8 w/ rcv_id 000005F4 *Mar 14 18:53:53.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_update_assignment_status: enter *Mar 14 18:53:53.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_update_assignment_status: exit *Mar 14 18:53:53.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_validate_wc_assignments: enter *Mar 14 18:53:53.291: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_validate_wc_assignments: not mask assignment, exit *Mar 14 18:53:53.291: WCCP-PKT:S00: Sending I_See_You packet to 202.188.244.8 w/ rcv_id 000005F5 *Mar 14 18:54:03.295: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_update_assignment_status: enter *Mar 14 18:54:03.295: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_update_assignment_status: exit *Mar 14 18:54:03.295: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_validate_wc_assignments: enter *Mar 14 18:54:03.295: WCCP-EVNT:wccp_validate_wc_assignments: not mask assignment, exit *Mar 14 18:54:03.295: WCCP-PKT:S00: Sending I_See_You packet to 202.188.244.8 w/ rcv_id 000005F6 1. User can go to the internet - if proxy ip set in their browser 2. User cannot go to internet - if proxy ip is not set in the browser 3. squid didn't log any client access (access.log) - if they don't set in their browser 4. squid cache.log can see cisco 6500 & squid box communicate (refer above log) Appreciate your suggestion / feedback / tips. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:25:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ED8106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1C38FC1A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2FFPmpA067199; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:25:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q2FFPmld067196; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:25:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:25:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20321.55765.596459.468145@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <4F61A80D.4050103@qeng-ho.org> <20321.55765.596459.468145@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Cc: David Walker , Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:25:56 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > > Arthur Chance writes: > >> I'll second that remark on labelling filesystems. My life has become >> much easier since I did all mine - the 8.2->9.0 disk naming switch from >> /dev/ad to /dev/ada had absolutely no effect. Take a look at >> Warren Block's excellent page on the subject: >> >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html > > /Caveat emptor/: following these instructions, I have been > unable to get this to work on > > FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 11 08:20:02 EDT 2012 amd64 > > Specificelly, the drives get labeled, but the infrastructure > necessary to mount using those labels does not happen. After > talking with Warren, all we can figure out is it isn't just me. These are two different types of label. Filesystem labels have always worked for me. Those are the ones shown in that article. The recent problems have been with GPT labels, which recently don't want to appear in /dev/gpt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:43:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABFA106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidianwalker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023918FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so5435205iah.13 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:43:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cCBp2kh7QTX8zENjuXcxGoVtlJs4DJH8DW1bPPteprU=; b=DygbyMHOELggPoUKHYTUbokhASPQthSeGy1dEuHM3LTyLnPAwJuq2l2O+c2o2OGgZd hbj2s9uRD4jy819ytxnqxNhKgLPuSPainhrrKO8zu22IX1qKO83nUe7X9834jiC3g0l1 +zlolM4XIQyS8HfR69mKzwleGCI+rUqejWRvndhZUl1L5IzCtoFqVsb7W/an+Nuuo1ZH ReDuWTKuObpi6NKTWnNE9cYpttRL+rt6FuVSR64MXNZnX0j6tSEs3yVZNDDZzpkJbkLu JOtqFHp4uQTOauRnceBMQxvC87ZWLtZ9szxK/47rLiC1xen/lfp1bVxZw6akchQzC6no GKtg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.129 with SMTP id i1mr10093479igq.33.1331826220437; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.96.6 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:43:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:13:40 +1030 Message-ID: From: David Walker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:43:41 -0000 Hey. On 15/03/2012, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > Yes, you can change the fstab (if you can get in via mountroot: > at the boot prompt, I believe) from single user mode. I've read boot(8) to some degree and tried interrupting boot and so on. At some point I get a ... mountroot> ... prompt which I guess is what you refer to. I'm not sure how to influence this - there seems to be no keyboard control at any rate ... I've decided to re-install FreeBSD rather than try to learn about this - lazy. During install, although FreeBSD correctly recognizes all the drives and allows me to select one as a target and "use whole", when it gets to slicing up the drive and presents the list of all drives, it incorrectly shows the first drive (the Windows drive) as having UFS partitions and so on - that drive is a single NTFS slice ... Needless to say there's no way I'm proceeding with install. So I leave the cabling order (which is what I originally changed prompting me to email the list) but unplug the Windows drive and install FreeBSD. Reboot and ... same situation. Sort of expected. Presumably, this is an understood situation with a simple workaround (failed drives etcetera). Please let me know (man pages accompanied by cluesticks are fine - I'm new here). > If you'd've > used labels (either glabel or tunefs -L) you'd not have to change > your /etc/fstab at all. I'd have no problem with that ... except it's not given as an option during install as far as I can see. > > -- > -- > Best wishes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:54:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB45F106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwhelan174@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448778FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so3071357bkc.13 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HGhO2x6DxlkOazGHWUg0lSF3wptvByDx2D/GUTBk7So=; b=xTC8i7ZQojJqgcITcqaLtPTzMbEnjNb4C01IyGFtJRlQxOlXbOTNB/ikju8zSatyb8 c3ay5zMYvbw50eGn36QBOGRVG2vQdy8yA222qM9EM8zFY1Tu4JB2QjZZiv3XO7cCfnQ9 nDGiHLdebeROcTW7HpsiDgTSAT44V9Uuk5zkmFSubfI6G8oBf+HWS8ziV8aUlr/dpzWX OPaUau05PYdg9EzLPtxOeCotZlTGvwH94OGbVh4jtGGkF4jojRD0Iv+LMK2ZbLLhh8dZ p0g3vy6hDeDPhgB1F+4DrpslRO3V6Yru6v7uS6WeYUIeguflR9d1Y3R0Ig/HapkQqumI V8bA== Received: by 10.204.154.209 with SMTP id p17mr2855991bkw.6.1331826894062; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [85.13.228.217] ([85.13.228.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r14sm4528447bkv.11.2012.03.15.08.54.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F6210C9.9070105@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:54:49 -0300 From: Dave Whelan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: floppy boot hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dwhelan174@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:54:55 -0000 Hello, I am a new user trying to install freebsd 7.2 using floppies and ftp. I have reached the part where I should start getting an ftp download but it couldn't find the server I had selected. Now, the Options Editor tells me that "Media Type" is not yet set and I am not able to set it. It seems that "Media Type" cannot be set once you have buggered up the ftp download. My question: Is something I can do that will allow me to set the "Media Type" from the Options Editor or must I go through the whole boot process all over again? Regards, Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:05:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8DD106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFF48FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB641E1BF; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:05:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2FG5ocv005808; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:05:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:05:50 +0100 From: Polytropon To: David Walker Message-Id: <20120315170550.e3a849ba.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:05:53 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:13:40 +1030, David Walker wrote: > I've read boot(8) to some degree and tried interrupting boot and so on. > At some point I get a ... > mountroot> > ... prompt which I guess is what you refer to. > I'm not sure how to influence this - there seems to be no keyboard > control at any rate ... I think you need a regular keyboard here (AT or PS/2), unless your BIOS offers a "USB keyboard legacy support". > I've decided to re-install FreeBSD rather than try to learn about this - lazy. You could have used UFSIDs (unique file system identifiers) as described in the handbook - it's an alternative to using GPT labels (currently looks problematic) or UFS labels (should work). 20.7 Labeling Disk Devices http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html (bottom of page) > During install, although FreeBSD correctly recognizes all the drives > and allows me to select one as a target and "use whole", when it gets > to slicing up the drive and presents the list of all drives, it > incorrectly shows the first drive (the Windows drive) as having UFS > partitions and so on - that drive is a single NTFS slice ... > Needless to say there's no way I'm proceeding with install. Maybe misinterpretation of some remains of GPT partitioning? > So I leave the cabling order (which is what I originally changed > prompting me to email the list) but unplug the Windows drive and > install FreeBSD. > Reboot and ... same situation. > Sort of expected. Have you considered performing a manual installation per shell commands? It's not that difficult and allows you to walk around problems that may reside inside the installer. In worst case, make sure to remove all remains of a previous partitioning ("clean install"). > > If you'd've > > used labels (either glabel or tunefs -L) you'd not have to change > > your /etc/fstab at all. > > I'd have no problem with that ... except it's not given as an option > during install as far as I can see. Is is _indirectly_ given: Start a shell, mount the drive and edit the file manually. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:45:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24EB106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7EA8FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2FGjUP5002595 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:45:30 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F621CAA.8070009@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:45:30 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <4F61A80D.4050103@qeng-ho.org> <20321.55765.596459.468145@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Moved drives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:45:39 -0000 On 03/15/12 15:25, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > >> >> Arthur Chance writes: >> >>> I'll second that remark on labelling filesystems. My life has become >>> much easier since I did all mine - the 8.2->9.0 disk naming switch from >>> /dev/ad to /dev/ada had absolutely no effect. Take a look at >>> Warren Block's excellent page on the subject: >>> >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html >> >> /Caveat emptor/: following these instructions, I have been >> unable to get this to work on >> >> FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 11 08:20:02 EDT 2012 amd64 >> >> Specificelly, the drives get labeled, but the infrastructure >> necessary to mount using those labels does not happen. After >> talking with Warren, all we can figure out is it isn't just me. > > These are two different types of label. Filesystem labels have always > worked for me. Those are the ones shown in that article. > > The recent problems have been with GPT labels, which recently don't want > to appear in /dev/gpt. Ouch. I've converted completely to GPT disks and labels. Fortunately I stick to RELEASE so I'm not affected. I presume this is some sort of regression in HEAD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:11:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544ED106566B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urban@unix-beratung.de) Received: from mail.y42.org (smtp.y42.org [194.97.145.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097B88FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.y42.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C671CEBF6B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:11:48 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at y42.org Received: from mail.y42.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dna.y42.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ooEwDU6RQNC8 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:11:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (p5DE9672D.dip.t-dialin.net [93.233.103.45]) (Authenticated sender: urban@dna.y42.org) by mail.y42.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:11:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F6222D1.3070908@unix-beratung.de> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:11:45 +0100 From: Robert Urban User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F60C34B.50105@y42.org> <20120314175003.c324d322.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120314175003.c324d322.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: satisfying package dependencies from installation DVD when building a port -- HOW? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:11:56 -0000 On 03/14/2012 05:50 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0100, IMAP List Administration wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've just installed 9.0-RELEASE (amd64) in a KVM/Qemo VM on debian linux, which >> is extremely painful because of the abysmal I/O performance, and would like to >> build the virtio-kmod. After unpacking src.txz (xz -c >> /cd/usr/freebsd-dist/src.txz | tar xf -) I did the following: >> >> # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtio-kmo >> # make clean install >> >> at this point I saw port names such as perl, tcl, neon, sqlite, etc fly past. > You can use the command > > # make missing > > to get a list of which dependencies need to be installed. > See "man 7 ports" for other targets that might be useful. this was helpful. >> I tried setting PKG_PATH to "/cd/packages" and to "/cd/packages/All", but when I >> simply try to test using, for example, "pkg_add perl" pkg_add simply says "can't >> stat package file". > Change CWD to the location of the packages (on CD) and > try again. According to "man pkg_add": > > If the packages are not found in the current > working directory, pkg_add will search them in > each directory named by PKG_PATH. > > If there's still an error, can you provide the command > you entered plus the output? Maybe adding -v helps to > give some more information. > I seem to have found the "problem". I read somewhere that PKG_PATH should have the path to the top of the hierarchy, i.e., /cd/packages, and not /cd/packages/ or /cd/packages/All, because pkg_add was capable of adding the hierarchical component, but this is not the case. I find that I must set PKG_PATH to /cd/packages/ or /cd/packages/All in order for it to work. Also, coming from OpenBSD, I assumed that I could supply pkg_add the "basename" of a package, i.e., the name without version number ("p5-Text-Iconv" as opposed to "p5-Text-Iconv-1.7") but this also does not work. pkg_add apparently expects everything except the ".tbz" extension. cheers, Robert Urban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:34:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B081065670 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8398FC16 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2FHYJGH057042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:34:25 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q2FHYJGH057042 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1331832865; bh=eOMz1qG9w+EO+HzJEXnT5a38ZMc2gtx9QZlpyc8DXfw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=GO3SuFPrUvgW9cCIMGIv4zJtpcT0L+x6+3oZGE4IiCNFHb/34vKDOIUyf8rtj4dkt 6rpMmHAW+pNwIR4zSERave7AT77PMFvYi3ONCD+1MX72DzxcCal6yPSUwM1O/XdELD SyRp+KmGb/UFrpJP1yhWIPR5hltt+J6T6vpvPWEo= Message-ID: <4F622813.2060405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:34:11 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F60C34B.50105@y42.org> <20120314175003.c324d322.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F6222D1.3070908@unix-beratung.de> In-Reply-To: <4F6222D1.3070908@unix-beratung.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDF5C5D1A65CC50FB8F947294" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: satisfying package dependencies from installation DVD when building a port -- HOW? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:34:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDF5C5D1A65CC50FB8F947294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/03/2012 17:11, Robert Urban wrote: > I seem to have found the "problem". I read somewhere that PKG_PATH sho= uld have > the path to the top of the hierarchy, i.e., /cd/packages, and not > /cd/packages/ or /cd/packages/All, because pkg_add was capab= le of > adding the hierarchical component, but this is not the case. I find th= at I must > set PKG_PATH to /cd/packages/ or /cd/packages/All in order for it = to work. > Also, coming from OpenBSD, I assumed that I could supply pkg_add the "b= asename" > of a package, i.e., the name without version number ("p5-Text-Iconv" as= opposed > to "p5-Text-Iconv-1.7") but this also does not work. pkg_add apparentl= y expects > everything except the ".tbz" extension. If you look at the packages tree, you'll see a directory called 'Latest' -- that contains packages named without version numbers. It's not a perfect one-to-one correspondence with the packages under All: some packages don't have a 'latest link' (mostly development versions where there is a production version in the tree as well) or the 'latest link' isn't the same as the basename of the package, usually because there are two or more different versions of the same software available. Also, you should have both .../All and .../Latest on PKG_PATH as dependency packages are listed with a version number. Yes, it's not foolproof. The whole package handling thing in FreeBSD is not as good as it should be. Work is underway to improve that, but it is still quite a way away from finished. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:37:30 -0000 Hi there, a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of the lagg and the result was very disappointing. The test I've done is very simple. I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch back to the main NIC as it should. The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 secondary) - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to bge1 - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on the server to timeout). Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was always the same. So, below are the ipconfig outputs - before to start the test - when bge0 gets unplugged - when bge0 gets plugged back in I couldn't see anything odd. ___________________________________________________________________________________ lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8009b ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto failover laggport: bge1 flags=0<> laggport: bge0 flags=5 ___________________________________________________________________________________ lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8009b ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto failover laggport: bge1 flags=4 laggport: bge0 flags=1 ___________________________________________________________________________________ lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8009b ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto failover laggport: bge1 flags=0<> laggport: bge0 flags=5 __________________________________________________________________________________ Also nothing unusual on dmesg: ....... bge0: link state changed to DOWN bge0: link state changed to UP bge1: link state changed to DOWN bge1: link state changed to UP bge0: link state changed to DOWN bge0: link state changed to UP bge1: link state changed to DOWN bge1: link state changed to UP bge0: link state changed to DOWN bge0: link state changed to UP bge1: link state changed to DOWN bge1: link state changed to UP ....... The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: ....... ifconfig_bge0="up" ifconfig_bge1="up" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 xxx.xx.xx.224/24" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" ....... The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) not from any of the jail in place. Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? Thanks. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11453&d=15-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:47:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A281065670 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (adsl-70-129-195-213.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net [70.129.195.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34F58FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2FJljET092996 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:47:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:47:45 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.6 Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:47:52 -0000 On 15.03.2012 14:06, Snoop wrote: > Hi there, > a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've > decided > (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality > of > the lagg and the result was very disappointing. > > The test I've done is very simple. > I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN > network > (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere > else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main > network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. > Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch > back to the main NIC as it should. > > The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 > secondary) > > - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to > bge1 > - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely > with > the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then > within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a > little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections > on > the server to timeout). > > Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting > for > different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was > always the same. > > So, below are the ipconfig outputs > - before to start the test > - when bge0 gets unplugged > - when bge0 gets plugged back in > > I couldn't see anything odd. > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 > mtu > 1500 > > > options=8009b > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto failover > laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > laggport: bge0 flags=5 > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 > mtu > 1500 > > > options=8009b > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto failover > laggport: bge1 flags=4 > laggport: bge0 flags=1 > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 > mtu > 1500 > > > options=8009b > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto failover > laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > laggport: bge0 flags=5 > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > Also nothing unusual on dmesg: > > ....... > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > bge0: link state changed to UP > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > bge1: link state changed to UP > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > bge0: link state changed to UP > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > bge1: link state changed to UP > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > bge0: link state changed to UP > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > bge1: link state changed to UP > ....... > > The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: > > ....... > ifconfig_bge0="up" > ifconfig_bge1="up" > cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 > xxx.xx.xx.224/24" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" > ....... > > The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 > kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 > > Just for the record, I've done the test from the host > (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) > not from any of the jail in place. > Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? > Thanks. > > > > -- > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e > SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > Offerta speciale: a partire da soli Euro 18.90 puoi stampare le tue > Foto su vera Tela Pittorica e creare Quadri fino a 80x50 cm! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11453&d=15-3 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Is this system connected to a switch with management capability? If so how is the switch configured for the ports? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer dweimer@dweimer.net http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:24:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05C3106566C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout08.t-online.de (mailout08.t-online.de [194.25.134.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E98A8FC19 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de (fwd03.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout08.t-online.de with smtp id 1S8HE9-00014E-RE; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:24:49 +0100 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (EY4PmuZZgh9krEpHdGsHVUuJQBH-kUqP3M6W1+MmC8kM6veeK-TpZT50vApyPEpwLA@[91.6.218.184]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1S8HE1-0RkHxo0; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:24:41 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q2FKOg8R088473 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:24:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q2FKOgmR088472 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:24:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:24:41 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120315202441.GA74550@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312225747.b7e68635.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120312225747.b7e68635.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: EY4PmuZZgh9krEpHdGsHVUuJQBH-kUqP3M6W1+MmC8kM6veeK-TpZT50vApyPEpwLA X-TOI-MSGID: 17210c16-b12d-416d-8f5d-5642ee9e1d30 Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:24:51 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:57:47PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: [...] > Did you have the chance to try to compile it using > "only ports" infrastructure? E. g. making sure the > ports tree is up to date, and then > > # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/ > # make install I did this several times. > to start with a clean (!) build? Just to be sure, you > could remove any possibly "offending" distfiles/ archives > and work/ subtrees. I do not undestand exactly, what You mean. I did a cvsup -g -L 2 ports-supfile several times, I went to all /usr/ports/x11*/dirctories and made a 'make clean' for al the ports therein, but nothing helped. > If this has worked, you can run the portmaster checks > again, but if I understood you correctly, getting WindowMaker > (not sure about the current correct spelling!) installed > and running is your top priority. At the very moment, yes. But I found pekwm (other wm than windoemaker compile without problems), it seems to be not bad either. But this damn windowmaker should compile too, aus Prinzip! But there is much mor "im Eimer" than windomaker only. But I can't find the "highest" port of all X-related. I deinstalled xorg and searched for remaining ports in /var/db/pkg seeming related to X or GUI stuff, an reinstalled x11/xorg (without HAL, which brings a failure too). Since long times, I often run into troubles when installing something gnome-related. I do not use gnome, but some applications need some gnome stuff. Well, at the very moment I need some advice for "cleaning" my system free of all GUI so that I can begin from zero with that. I decided to follow the rcipe at the end of mman portmaster and made all new. I didn't install all the ports that were installed, just what I really need - fetchmail, mutt-lite, vim-lite, slrn, lynx, inadyn, screen, mgetty+sendfax, and x11/xorg and opera. All compiled fine. Sabine -- Man kann es auch sein lassen. So wichtig ist das alles gar nicht. So what? :) (JF in dacw) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:39:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E9F1065673 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (x.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D5C8FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x.it.okstate.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2FKH5mN067960 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:17:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201203152017.q2FKH5mN067960@x.it.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <67958.1331842625.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:17:05 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Reading an unknown DAT Tape X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:39:42 -0000 This is a case of idle curiosity and not an urgent need to recover a valuable backup. I found an old DAT tape and attempted to read it on the very drive that probably once wrote it and it appears to read the tape properly in that I can use dd to copy it to a file and mt fsf 5, for example, takes the tape to the fifth file marker so there is sanity. Tar, however, does not recognize the format of the archive so it is either something proprietary or I am not using the correct utility on it. I opened it with dd files=2 if=/dev/sa0 of=testfile and then did the strings utility on testfile and got: TAPE SSET VOLB DIRB NACL Setting security iles SPAD DIRB NACL Setting security on system files... SPAD DIRB NACL SPAD DIRB NACL SPAD FILE NACL STAN Jun 23 2003 12:00AM Jan 1 1900 8:45AM Jan 1 1900 9:00AM Note that we are obviously able to read data from the tape as the top few lines are readible as words. The time stamps at the bottom are possibly not time stamps as some of them are not plausible. The dd command never faltered with errors although I did finally stop it manually. Is there any FreeBSD utility that can tell more about what created the original archive? Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:07:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86F2106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650678FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q2FL2qhZ009489; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:02:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q2FL2qfs009488; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:02:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:02:52 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20120315210251.GB9374@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <201203152017.q2FKH5mN067960@x.it.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201203152017.q2FKH5mN067960@x.it.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading an unknown DAT Tape X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:07:09 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:17:05PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > This is a case of idle curiosity and not an urgent need > to recover a valuable backup. I found an old DAT tape and > attempted to read it on the very drive that probably once wrote > it and it appears to read the tape properly in that I can use dd > to copy it to a file and mt fsf 5, for example, takes the tape > to the fifth file marker so there is sanity. > > Tar, however, does not recognize the format of the > archive so it is either something proprietary or I am not using > the correct utility on it. > > I opened it with dd files=2 if=/dev/sa0 of=testfile and > then did the strings utility on testfile and got: > > TAPE > SSET > VOLB > DIRB > NACL > Setting security > iles > SPAD > DIRB > NACL > Setting security on system files... > SPAD > DIRB > NACL > SPAD > DIRB > NACL > SPAD > FILE > NACL > STAN > Jun 23 2003 12:00AM > Jan 1 1900 8:45AM > Jan 1 1900 9:00AM I wondered about it being a dump(8) file, but just tried one and strings output looked a little different. How about a db of some sort or a log from some lab test? ////jerry > > Note that we are obviously able to read data from the > tape as the top few lines are readible as words. The time stamps > at the bottom are possibly not time stamps as some of them are > not plausible. > > The dd command never faltered with errors although I > did finally stop it manually. > > Is there any FreeBSD utility that can tell more about > what created the original archive? > > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:15:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376031065673 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B308FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S8I1Q-000493-1v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:15:44 +0100 Received: from 208.85.208.53 ([208.85.208.53]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:15:43 +0100 Received: from atkin901 by 208.85.208.53 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:15:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Atkinson Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:15:32 -0700 Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <201203152017.q2FKH5mN067960@x.it.okstate.edu> <20120315210251.GB9374@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.85.208.53 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Thunderbird/10.0.2 In-Reply-To: <20120315210251.GB9374@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Subject: Re: Reading an unknown DAT Tape X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:15:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/15/2012 14:02, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:17:05PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > >> This is a case of idle curiosity and not an urgent need to >> recover a valuable backup. I found an old DAT tape and attempted >> to read it on the very drive that probably once wrote it and it >> appears to read the tape properly in that I can use dd to copy it >> to a file and mt fsf 5, for example, takes the tape to the fifth >> file marker so there is sanity. >> >> Tar, however, does not recognize the format of the archive so it >> is either something proprietary or I am not using the correct >> utility on it. >> >> I opened it with dd files=2 if=/dev/sa0 of=testfile and then did >> the strings utility on testfile and got: >> >> TAPE SSET VOLB DIRB NACL Setting security iles SPAD DIRB NACL >> Setting security on system files... SPAD DIRB NACL SPAD DIRB >> NACL SPAD FILE NACL STAN Jun 23 2003 12:00AM Jan 1 1900 8:45AM >> Jan 1 1900 9:00AM > > I wondered about it being a dump(8) file, but just tried one and > strings output looked a little different. > > How about a db of some sort or a log from some lab test? > > ////jerry > > > >> >> Note that we are obviously able to read data from the tape as the >> top few lines are readible as words. The time stamps at the >> bottom are possibly not time stamps as some of them are not >> plausible. >> >> The dd command never faltered with errors although I did finally >> stop it manually. >> >> Is there any FreeBSD utility that can tell more about what >> created the original archive? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Martin McCormick A quick check of Google with the strings you dumped points at Microsoft Tape format. Possibly from the win2k utility. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9iW/QACgkQrDN5kXnx8yYRawCePDzWmtZaHrvB1jq3gY3BS96f dvUAnRvBdclM3E0+WDus0dNlPVuN1ELD =p5oa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:55:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07462106566B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F958FC16 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:55:26 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M0Y00JMR247I220@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:55:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-03-15_04:2012-03-15, 2012-03-14, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1203150224 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <201203152017.q2FKH5mN067960@x.it.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:55:19 -0700 Message-id: <728440A6-DB87-4EFC-BA3D-14EE0C6A1F1D@mac.com> References: <201203152017.q2FKH5mN067960@x.it.okstate.edu> To: Martin McCormick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading an unknown DAT Tape X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:55:27 -0000 On Mar 15, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I opened it with dd files=2 if=/dev/sa0 of=testfile and > then did the strings utility on testfile and got: What does "file testfile" think? ("od -ax" on the first part of the file might be informative, also.) Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 23:43:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01B1106564A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2188FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A19A71CDA for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28650 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2012 23:43:36 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 12337, pid: 7725, t: 0.2005s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2012 23:43:35 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD6D33C1E; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D737C39860; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:43:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mike Clarke References: <201203131413.41392.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:43:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <201203131413.41392.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> (Mike Clarke's message of "Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:13:41 +0000") Message-ID: <44y5r177mm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem compiling emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod 4.1.8_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:43:38 -0000 Mike Clarke writes: > portmaster -a fails with: > > cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-mp -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_SUP_R0 -DVBOX -DRT_WITH_VBOX -w -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS -DRT_ARCH_X86 -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -Iinclude -I. -Ir0drv -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param > inline-unit-growth=100 --param > large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c > /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c: > In function 'rtR0MemObjFreeBSDAllocPhysPages': > /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c:405: > error: invalid type argument of '->' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop > in /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv. > > I ran portsnap immediately before portmaster so my ports are up to date. > > Any suggestions? There have been more updates to the port since, and I don't see any failures in the automated builds. I've got a build on my fast system (RELENG_8, amd64) running now for a check, but it will take a while to grab the distfiles. You might want to grab the latest port and try it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 00:28:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C427106564A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8E68FC12 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C473CA7167F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17107 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2012 00:28:34 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 28059, pid: 10670, t: 0.1924s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2012 00:28:34 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363EB33C1E; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9EAC039860; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201203131413.41392.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <44y5r177mm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:28:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44y5r177mm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> (Lowell Gilbert's message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:43:29 -0400") Message-ID: <44haxp75jo.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Mike Clarke Subject: Re: Problem compiling emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod 4.1.8_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:28:36 -0000 Lowell Gilbert writes: > Mike Clarke writes: > >> portmaster -a fails with: >> >> cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-mp -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_SUP_R0 -DVBOX -DRT_WITH_VBOX -w -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS -DRT_ARCH_X86 -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -Iinclude -I. -Ir0drv -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param >> inline-unit-growth=100 --param >> large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c >> /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c: >> In function 'rtR0MemObjFreeBSDAllocPhysPages': >> /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv/r0drv/freebsd/memobj-r0drv-freebsd.c:405: >> error: invalid type argument of '->' >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop >> in /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv. >> >> I ran portsnap immediately before portmaster so my ports are up to date. >> >> Any suggestions? > > There have been more updates to the port since, and I don't see any > failures in the automated builds. I've got a build on my fast system > (RELENG_8, amd64) running now for a check, but it will take a while to > grab the distfiles. You might want to grab the latest port and try it. And it builds fine for me. My best advice is: clean out the directory for that port, update again, and see if the problem is the same. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 02:54:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B94D1065670 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FFD8FC12 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so122389wib.13 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zuuKcpVOX4DHUh/MHyVDaRUOAABdmeY/jtsTDhLfObE=; b=FFWbkTq27aBC7dPEyMDWCXJI32vG4xiITiGj5FgXzu3+8i0QT4BjrkPdj2/OkHqXzT k0bkSFFF7m70J/JLuJlEOIgHSf/HpbH5uFEf0TCHBCrPIAzedbo3BgqhEO/VyIIuU2A2 /hR7cvXFsYu8hOGQyyiOpxOdMoPKetDl6rjBbFbH3WaknbGifxnNLy2dDw9VZmRD+3Xy 3T5kjO9naTCnjs3g3NC/WRaBAPleYuH24tguGsnX/mSVyzFzStEPzayg4HyNjYDgYe8N aT97aDc/svThVAHTY2LceWLhLHvHm+A5qBjxFab4SFCBP51h7UG5MdrlLd7xobTms/Sx Cpgg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.97 with SMTP id x75mr597127wei.25.1331866456376; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.102.78 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201203131413.41392.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <201203131413.41392.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:54:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem compiling emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod 4.1.8_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:54:18 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > > in > /data1/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/out/freebsd.x86/release/bin/src/vboxdrv. > > I ran portsnap immediately before portmaster so my ports are up to date. > > Any suggestions? > Did you follow the relevant /usr/src/UPDATING instructions? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 04:43:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04450106566B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A718FC12 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ECB3CD2F; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 05:43:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q2G4hCVx002317; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 05:43:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 05:43:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sabine Baer Message-Id: <20120316054312.ae0a26ca.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120315202441.GA74550@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312225747.b7e68635.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120315202441.GA74550@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:43:20 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:24:41 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:57:47PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > [...] > > > Did you have the chance to try to compile it using > > "only ports" infrastructure? E. g. making sure the > > ports tree is up to date, and then > > > > # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/ > > # make install > > I did this several times. Do you have any "non-standard" settings in /etc/make.conf that might be a reason here? Overriding CFLAGS or -O something or maybe a wrong CPUTYPE? I'm just asking to also check this obvious stuff as I did shoot my own foot with something like that. :-) > > to start with a clean (!) build? Just to be sure, you > > could remove any possibly "offending" distfiles/ archives > > and work/ subtrees. > > I do not undestand exactly, what You mean. I did a cvsup -g -L 2 > ports-supfile several times, I went to all /usr/ports/x11*/dirctories > and made a 'make clean' for al the ports therein, but nothing helped. That should have eliminated any remains of work/ directories. The removal of distfiles/ would cause the make process, started in a clean build environment, to also fetch a new source tarball. After you have successfully brought up your ports tree to the latest version, also the latest source of WindowMaker should be obtained. > > If this has worked, you can run the portmaster checks > > again, but if I understood you correctly, getting WindowMaker > > (not sure about the current correct spelling!) installed > > and running is your top priority. > > At the very moment, yes. But I found pekwm (other wm than windoemaker > compile without problems), it seems to be not bad either. > But this damn windowmaker should compile too, aus Prinzip! Of course it should. I've been able to successfully install version 0.92.0_10 on August 22nd 2011, so it should be possible to reproduce that. :-) > But there is much mor "im Eimer" than windomaker only. > But I can't find the "highest" port of all X-related. I deinstalled > xorg and searched for remaining ports in /var/db/pkg seeming related > to X or GUI stuff, an reinstalled x11/xorg (without HAL, which brings > a failure too). If you don't actually _use_ HAL, there is no reason to compile it in. Experience teaches that it brings more trouble than benefit. In ultra-worst case, you could reinstall everything (i. e. cleaning /usr/local and restoring it from the mtree file, cleaning /var/db/pkg also), starting with a list of your "actually used programs" and let them pull in all the dependencies, e. g. # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/ # make config-recursive # make install That would maybe be less elegant than using a port management tool, but it should work. > Since long times, I often run into troubles when > installing something gnome-related. I do not use gnome, but some > applications need some gnome stuff. I'm running some Gnome/Gtk+ related applications here (as well as some from KDE land), but the installation has been done in summer last year. I can hardly imagine that there is a significant loss of "just works" in recent ports... > Well, at the very moment I need some advice for "cleaning" my system > free of all GUI so that I can begin from zero with that. To really make sure there is nothing "offending" on the system, make sure you check /etc/make.conf, then remove /usr/local and restore the directory structures using /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist, also make sure /var/db/pkg is clean. That resembles the state of the OS right after a fresh install. Also delete /usr/ports and use portsnap to obtain a new ports tree. Use csup (as in your example above) to update to the latest version. Then start installing using the port infrastructure (to limit the possibilities what can go wrong - without a port management tool) as in my example. > I decided to follow the rcipe at the end of mman portmaster and made > all new. I didn't install all the ports that were installed, just what > I really need - fetchmail, mutt-lite, vim-lite, slrn, lynx, inadyn, > screen, mgetty+sendfax, and x11/xorg and opera. All compiled fine. Correct approach. This makes sure you won't "accidentally" install a port that you won't need just because somehow it has been on the system. :-) This is a starting point where you could try to install WindowMaker from. As I see from the list, X is there, but no big things that could make the WindowMaker build break. Check out "man script" to save a copy of the messages from the building process (good way to check error messages in case it failed). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 09:46:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B202106566B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2387D8FC0C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so4873940wer.13 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=WvgrXk9tbaFa8ftxvtDUnmki+WeV7TaxlUGKRNBqQrA=; b=lTpLKXSqpnh1uHKmrYWx6kmg3fVA6In3xwTf2dCmx/b3/h5EFPfFI/ndqLsSTFPpxc Hp3UGJinsm/jWXXAnzJFOyDcgyeZUJVk+Bm0RaXqMJscEvV1eCEQUpGyzWU6rJi1N8m1 MvWpvj/oyKgQCVy16YI5JkdHURzWNiKJZd8QwJ1KSyTI9ua7xevJXP2OlK248QpVnikb lkkipYXR1M7YNCMOVcYv9dHko5unjIlqV41PYWTQOz4sPNAGG9n4Xx0iVeDU5TNJziEL 4zwUJPXfl+ps5RJN7Gyf295tHgm66uc5kI4vjmE1DMBkJ8XntREG9ZPP7YFrRFx4LONd yMxg== Received: by 10.180.98.8 with SMTP id ee8mr4894599wib.14.1331891191178; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.147.233.231] ([92.90.16.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm20267891wiw.1.2012.03.16.02.46.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:46:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> In-Reply-To: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:45:08 +0100 To: Snoop X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlmm77ri7z0Z8M3wjLGVeONL3PJashmauN/qyuSed7QeSJBw6PtVeuB/i6lH8nJveVNCJ9p Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:46:32 -0000 Sorry top posting from phone. Show your switch's port configurations. We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have al= ready tried the tests you described, to much better results. We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is t= he switch config, likely. On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: > Hi there, > a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided > (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of > the lagg and the result was very disappointing. >=20 > The test I've done is very simple. > I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network > (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere > else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main > network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. > Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch > back to the main NIC as it should. >=20 > The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 > secondary) >=20 > - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to > bge1 > - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with > the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then > within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a > little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on > the server to timeout). >=20 > Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for > different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was > always the same. >=20 > So, below are the ipconfig outputs > - before to start the test > - when bge0 gets unplugged > - when bge0 gets plugged back in >=20 > I couldn't see anything odd. > __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > lagg0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 >=20 > options=3D8009b > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto failover > laggport: bge1 flags=3D0<> > laggport: bge0 flags=3D5 > __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > lagg0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 >=20 > options=3D8009b > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto failover > laggport: bge1 flags=3D4 > laggport: bge0 flags=3D1 > __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >=20 > lagg0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 >=20 > options=3D8009b > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto failover > laggport: bge1 flags=3D0<> > laggport: bge0 flags=3D5 > __________________________________________________________________________= ________ > Also nothing unusual on dmesg: >=20 > ....... > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > bge0: link state changed to UP > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > bge1: link state changed to UP > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > bge0: link state changed to UP > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > bge1: link state changed to UP > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > bge0: link state changed to UP > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > bge1: link state changed to UP > ....... >=20 > The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: >=20 > ....... > ifconfig_bge0=3D"up" > ifconfig_bge1=3D"up" > cloned_interfaces=3D"lagg0" > ifconfig_lagg0=3D"laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 > xxx.xx.xx.224/24" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0=3D"inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1=3D"inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2=3D"inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3=3D"inet 172.16.3.2/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4=3D"inet 172.16.3.3/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5=3D"inet 172.16.3.4/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6=3D"inet 172.16.3.5/27" > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7=3D"inet 172.16.3.6/27" > ....... >=20 > The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 > kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 >=20 > Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) > not from any of the jail in place. > Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? > Thanks. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP a= utenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f >=20 > Sponsor: > Offerta speciale: a partire da soli Euro 18.90 puoi stampare le tue Foto s= u vera Tela Pittorica e creare Quadri fino a 80x50 cm! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=3D11453&d=3D15-3 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:36:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA2C106566B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out08.email.it (smtp-out08.email.it [212.97.34.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072308FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49481C071; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:18:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out08.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out08.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Xp6HQ2OZTtJ9; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:18:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.16.0.17] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D585C0C5; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:18:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> From: Snoop To: Damien Fleuriot , dweimer@dweimer.net Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:18:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:36:51 -0000 Hi Dweimer and Damien, thanks for replying. The server is connected to a switch of the datacentre. The configuration of this switch is unknown to me and I obviously have no access to it but I truly believe that such an enterprise environment has management capabilities. Anyway, in which way the configuration would affect the lagg functionality? Might this issue be related to what stated in the FreeBSD LAGG pages in the handbook? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html "Cisco® Fast EtherChannel® Cisco Fast EtherChannel (FEC), is a static setup and does not negotiate aggregation with the peer or exchange frames to monitor the link. If the switch supports LACP then that should be used instead." On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:45 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Sorry top posting from phone. > > > Show your switch's port configurations. > > We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have already tried the tests you described, to much better results. > > We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is the switch config, likely. > > > > On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: > > > Hi there, > > a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided > > (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of > > the lagg and the result was very disappointing. > > > > The test I've done is very simple. > > I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network > > (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere > > else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main > > network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. > > Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch > > back to the main NIC as it should. > > > > The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 > > secondary) > > > > - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to > > bge1 > > - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with > > the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then > > within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a > > little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on > > the server to timeout). > > > > Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for > > different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was > > always the same. > > > > So, below are the ipconfig outputs > > - before to start the test > > - when bge0 gets unplugged > > - when bge0 gets plugged back in > > > > I couldn't see anything odd. > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > > 1500 > > > > options=8009b > > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > > media: Ethernet autoselect > > status: active > > laggproto failover > > laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > > laggport: bge0 flags=5 > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > > 1500 > > > > options=8009b > > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > > media: Ethernet autoselect > > status: active > > laggproto failover > > laggport: bge1 flags=4 > > laggport: bge0 flags=1 > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > > 1500 > > > > options=8009b > > ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > > inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > > inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > > inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > > inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > > inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > > inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > > media: Ethernet autoselect > > status: active > > laggproto failover > > laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > > laggport: bge0 flags=5 > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > > Also nothing unusual on dmesg: > > > > ....... > > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > > bge0: link state changed to UP > > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > bge1: link state changed to UP > > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > > bge0: link state changed to UP > > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > bge1: link state changed to UP > > bge0: link state changed to DOWN > > bge0: link state changed to UP > > bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > bge1: link state changed to UP > > ....... > > > > The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: > > > > ....... > > ifconfig_bge0="up" > > ifconfig_bge1="up" > > cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > > ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 > > xxx.xx.xx.224/24" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" > > ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" > > ....... > > > > The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 > > kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 > > > > Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) > > not from any of the jail in place. > > Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f > > > > Sponsor: > > Offerta speciale: a partire da soli Euro 18.90 puoi stampare le tue Foto su vera Tela Pittorica e creare Quadri fino a 80x50 cm! > > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11453&d=15-3 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11921&d=16-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:10:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8610A106566C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3ED08FC0C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so3857873bkc.13 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:10:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=I/+2rmfPK5J2+c396oSZ4aYvEZ+3z2B186pLd/Ydtiw=; b=HrW8xRNh/c6cyaDI74U3Nzh1m1BEQeijRnRqFxh6bvBU8oPMEIpcWhaPhsXei+oTty EcGvYclu18zvNvcOxPF6sbXP3qYly58dyAwTEEVp9xs5kGSUW63XPUzK2H1DMszIMzX+ OQ6lpLsv2uMxrDIZjhUT+PrkMTK/Qs0yy5VZ5651smYRMEvNXP7LGrTaOqcrWwUzFtVN B1BTy26iCCqjqbqXglqcNoqmsEUwgaZsJt6kcO3TvCU/pIgI6ZSagXCq3m+ACReCjT07 /x1P5PSQk/Wr2zKu1+qsz8Re3uzKvjEcu8yVlkXCQNNJhxJkJ+QcSEpobHgLnLpoWaIe PvKQ== Received: by 10.204.129.71 with SMTP id n7mr774407bks.91.1331896249842; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot.local ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t17sm9128893bke.6.2012.03.16.04.10.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:10:46 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Snoop References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> In-Reply-To: <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmZhwO65sdEDp/ZcRPYC4kioal3Hv2vd+bsV4Eoud7o5yQKrSVwz5v9VthxvaEU5gtCfMnk Cc: dweimer@dweimer.net, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:10:51 -0000 You're not looking for FEC or ethechannel or 802.3ad at all. What you're looking for, in the case of a *failover* configuration, is a "spanning-tree portfast" feature so that your port doesn't transition through the different spantree states before forwarding traffic. Kindly obtain the configuration from whoever has it and let us know. On 3/16/12 11:18 AM, Snoop wrote: > Hi Dweimer and Damien, > thanks for replying. > > The server is connected to a switch of the datacentre. The configuration > of this switch is unknown to me and I obviously have no access to it but > I truly believe that such an enterprise environment has management > capabilities. > Anyway, in which way the configuration would affect the lagg > functionality? Might this issue be related to what stated in the FreeBSD > LAGG pages in the handbook? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html > > "Cisco® Fast EtherChannel® > > Cisco Fast EtherChannel (FEC), is a static setup and does not negotiate > aggregation with the peer or exchange frames to monitor the link. If the > switch supports LACP then that should be used instead." > > > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:45 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Sorry top posting from phone. >> >> >> Show your switch's port configurations. >> >> We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have already tried the tests you described, to much better results. >> >> We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is the switch config, likely. >> >> >> >> On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided >>> (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of >>> the lagg and the result was very disappointing. >>> >>> The test I've done is very simple. >>> I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network >>> (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere >>> else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main >>> network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. >>> Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch >>> back to the main NIC as it should. >>> >>> The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 >>> secondary) >>> >>> - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to >>> bge1 >>> - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with >>> the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then >>> within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a >>> little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on >>> the server to timeout). >>> >>> Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for >>> different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was >>> always the same. >>> >>> So, below are the ipconfig outputs >>> - before to start the test >>> - when bge0 gets unplugged >>> - when bge0 gets plugged back in >>> >>> I couldn't see anything odd. >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>> 1500 >>> >>> options=8009b >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 >>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>> status: active >>> laggproto failover >>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> >>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>> 1500 >>> >>> options=8009b >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 >>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>> status: active >>> laggproto failover >>> laggport: bge1 flags=4 >>> laggport: bge0 flags=1 >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>> 1500 >>> >>> options=8009b >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 >>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>> status: active >>> laggproto failover >>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> >>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 >>> __________________________________________________________________________________ >>> Also nothing unusual on dmesg: >>> >>> ....... >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN >>> bge0: link state changed to UP >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN >>> bge1: link state changed to UP >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN >>> bge0: link state changed to UP >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN >>> bge1: link state changed to UP >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN >>> bge0: link state changed to UP >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN >>> bge1: link state changed to UP >>> ....... >>> >>> The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: >>> >>> ....... >>> ifconfig_bge0="up" >>> ifconfig_bge1="up" >>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" >>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 >>> xxx.xx.xx.224/24" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" >>> ....... >>> >>> The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 >>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 >>> >>> Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) >>> not from any of the jail in place. >>> Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > ING DIRECT Conto Arancio. 4,20% per 12 mesi, zero spese, aprilo in due minuti! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11921&d=16-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 12:21:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18DD106566B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out06.email.it (smtp-out06.email.it [212.97.34.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D00B8FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out06.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4032E2C01A; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:21:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out06.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out06.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bHKh+z-Un5cP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:21:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.55] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out06.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981192C027; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:21:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1331900494.4898.15.camel@urano.inhio.eu> From: Snoop To: Damien Fleuriot Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:21:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:21:37 -0000 I've requested the configuration. I'll post that as soon as I have it. Thank you very much for your time. On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > You're not looking for FEC or ethechannel or 802.3ad at all. > > What you're looking for, in the case of a *failover* configuration, is a > "spanning-tree portfast" feature so that your port doesn't transition > through the different spantree states before forwarding traffic. > > Kindly obtain the configuration from whoever has it and let us know. > > > On 3/16/12 11:18 AM, Snoop wrote: > > Hi Dweimer and Damien, > > thanks for replying. > > > > The server is connected to a switch of the datacentre. The configuration > > of this switch is unknown to me and I obviously have no access to it but > > I truly believe that such an enterprise environment has management > > capabilities. > > Anyway, in which way the configuration would affect the lagg > > functionality? Might this issue be related to what stated in the FreeBSD > > LAGG pages in the handbook? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html > > > > "Cisco® Fast EtherChannel® > > > > Cisco Fast EtherChannel (FEC), is a static setup and does not negotiate > > aggregation with the peer or exchange frames to monitor the link. If the > > switch supports LACP then that should be used instead." > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:45 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> Sorry top posting from phone. > >> > >> > >> Show your switch's port configurations. > >> > >> We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have already tried the tests you described, to much better results. > >> > >> We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is the switch config, likely. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: > >> > >>> Hi there, > >>> a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided > >>> (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of > >>> the lagg and the result was very disappointing. > >>> > >>> The test I've done is very simple. > >>> I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network > >>> (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere > >>> else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main > >>> network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. > >>> Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch > >>> back to the main NIC as it should. > >>> > >>> The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 > >>> secondary) > >>> > >>> - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to > >>> bge1 > >>> - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with > >>> the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then > >>> within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a > >>> little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on > >>> the server to timeout). > >>> > >>> Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for > >>> different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was > >>> always the same. > >>> > >>> So, below are the ipconfig outputs > >>> - before to start the test > >>> - when bge0 gets unplugged > >>> - when bge0 gets plugged back in > >>> > >>> I couldn't see anything odd. > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>> 1500 > >>> > >>> options=8009b > >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>> status: active > >>> laggproto failover > >>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > >>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>> 1500 > >>> > >>> options=8009b > >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>> status: active > >>> laggproto failover > >>> laggport: bge1 flags=4 > >>> laggport: bge0 flags=1 > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> > >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>> 1500 > >>> > >>> options=8009b > >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>> status: active > >>> laggproto failover > >>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > >>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 > >>> __________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> Also nothing unusual on dmesg: > >>> > >>> ....... > >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>> ....... > >>> > >>> The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: > >>> > >>> ....... > >>> ifconfig_bge0="up" > >>> ifconfig_bge1="up" > >>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 > >>> xxx.xx.xx.224/24" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" > >>> ....... > >>> > >>> The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 > >>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 > >>> > >>> Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) > >>> not from any of the jail in place. > >>> Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11451&d=16-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:31:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E937106564A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out08.email.it (smtp-out08.email.it [212.97.34.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAC48FC17 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB3AC048; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out08.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out08.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id klwdfI8hQOhp; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.16.0.17] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA066C018; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1331915503.4898.16.camel@urano.inhio.eu> From: Snoop To: Damien Fleuriot Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:31:46 -0000 That's the STP configuration on my two switch ports: spanning-tree portfast spanning-tree bpduguard enable On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > You're not looking for FEC or ethechannel or 802.3ad at all. > > What you're looking for, in the case of a *failover* configuration, is a > "spanning-tree portfast" feature so that your port doesn't transition > through the different spantree states before forwarding traffic. > > Kindly obtain the configuration from whoever has it and let us know. > > > On 3/16/12 11:18 AM, Snoop wrote: > > Hi Dweimer and Damien, > > thanks for replying. > > > > The server is connected to a switch of the datacentre. The configuration > > of this switch is unknown to me and I obviously have no access to it but > > I truly believe that such an enterprise environment has management > > capabilities. > > Anyway, in which way the configuration would affect the lagg > > functionality? Might this issue be related to what stated in the FreeBSD > > LAGG pages in the handbook? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html > > > > "Cisco® Fast EtherChannel® > > > > Cisco Fast EtherChannel (FEC), is a static setup and does not negotiate > > aggregation with the peer or exchange frames to monitor the link. If the > > switch supports LACP then that should be used instead." > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:45 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> Sorry top posting from phone. > >> > >> > >> Show your switch's port configurations. > >> > >> We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have already tried the tests you described, to much better results. > >> > >> We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is the switch config, likely. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: > >> > >>> Hi there, > >>> a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided > >>> (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of > >>> the lagg and the result was very disappointing. > >>> > >>> The test I've done is very simple. > >>> I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network > >>> (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere > >>> else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main > >>> network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. > >>> Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch > >>> back to the main NIC as it should. > >>> > >>> The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 > >>> secondary) > >>> > >>> - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to > >>> bge1 > >>> - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with > >>> the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then > >>> within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a > >>> little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on > >>> the server to timeout). > >>> > >>> Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for > >>> different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was > >>> always the same. > >>> > >>> So, below are the ipconfig outputs > >>> - before to start the test > >>> - when bge0 gets unplugged > >>> - when bge0 gets plugged back in > >>> > >>> I couldn't see anything odd. > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>> 1500 > >>> > >>> options=8009b > >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>> status: active > >>> laggproto failover > >>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > >>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>> 1500 > >>> > >>> options=8009b > >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>> status: active > >>> laggproto failover > >>> laggport: bge1 flags=4 > >>> laggport: bge0 flags=1 > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> > >>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>> 1500 > >>> > >>> options=8009b > >>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>> status: active > >>> laggproto failover > >>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > >>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 > >>> __________________________________________________________________________________ > >>> Also nothing unusual on dmesg: > >>> > >>> ....... > >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>> ....... > >>> > >>> The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: > >>> > >>> ....... > >>> ifconfig_bge0="up" > >>> ifconfig_bge1="up" > >>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 > >>> xxx.xx.xx.224/24" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" > >>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" > >>> ....... > >>> > >>> The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 > >>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 > >>> > >>> Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) > >>> not from any of the jail in place. > >>> Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8292&d=16-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:49:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA081106564A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656968FC0C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so2698634eek.13 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:49:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=et0zOUEs51YTJYjWMaOet7hgYMg6WiYmRVpKBvA1uZc=; b=oAPobbOD2bJCBOx0YvDmu99fZPQLCXgrqi4cuMEDn2FeRrBH1zZ54FXrm2qR/GbDW7 X6wxdUjg+C6okczFLhohfgkrIVNoKZGLcj8RaOA8wzNyYXtwE487P7L+9V42spWDQ+Lt 6R+evWaX57rKZ/8pvMUEAoZWpWx5pgFXxx63lYiq3WeqOAz+FOe8g772ZcCAYmVO9tyN 3gPNC2GtlyeiA/S2FYS55/AZW43brQYtd5crFl4+sfgWvcL0cDTMOYydQtIfkylGgqTx gT7socdgpvE2CmZcxO4qUkoj/pVmVDZ1WDDy23Z9cutRw2KhZhUuNj02wzugGGBB2S8d my0A== Received: by 10.213.20.220 with SMTP id g28mr215003ebb.122.1331916549921; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d54sm20262136eei.9.2012.03.16.09.49.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F636F03.1020900@my.gd> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:49:07 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Snoop References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> <1331915503.4898.16.camel@urano.inhio.eu> In-Reply-To: <1331915503.4898.16.camel@urano.inhio.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmJrIHd7LPr8CPmpKP11G0x8inu54Zwr1+C2JJTcO+y5DvHzQZFHD7FnWL89wGulFbPGWdr Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:49:12 -0000 I confirm you should see fast transition for your VLANs to forwarding state. Are your ports in access or trunk mode ? If they're trunked, portfast alone won't do it, you need "spanning-tree portfast trunk". Additionally, are you using link aggregation on the cisco swi ? (channel-group) On 3/16/12 5:31 PM, Snoop wrote: > That's the STP configuration on my two switch ports: > > spanning-tree portfast > spanning-tree bpduguard enable > > > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> You're not looking for FEC or ethechannel or 802.3ad at all. >> >> What you're looking for, in the case of a *failover* configuration, is a >> "spanning-tree portfast" feature so that your port doesn't transition >> through the different spantree states before forwarding traffic. >> >> Kindly obtain the configuration from whoever has it and let us know. >> >> >> On 3/16/12 11:18 AM, Snoop wrote: >>> Hi Dweimer and Damien, >>> thanks for replying. >>> >>> The server is connected to a switch of the datacentre. The configuration >>> of this switch is unknown to me and I obviously have no access to it but >>> I truly believe that such an enterprise environment has management >>> capabilities. >>> Anyway, in which way the configuration would affect the lagg >>> functionality? Might this issue be related to what stated in the FreeBSD >>> LAGG pages in the handbook? >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html >>> >>> "Cisco® Fast EtherChannel® >>> >>> Cisco Fast EtherChannel (FEC), is a static setup and does not negotiate >>> aggregation with the peer or exchange frames to monitor the link. If the >>> switch supports LACP then that should be used instead." >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:45 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>>> Sorry top posting from phone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Show your switch's port configurations. >>>> >>>> We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have already tried the tests you described, to much better results. >>>> >>>> We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is the switch config, likely. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided >>>>> (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of >>>>> the lagg and the result was very disappointing. >>>>> >>>>> The test I've done is very simple. >>>>> I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network >>>>> (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere >>>>> else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main >>>>> network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. >>>>> Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch >>>>> back to the main NIC as it should. >>>>> >>>>> The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 >>>>> secondary) >>>>> >>>>> - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to >>>>> bge1 >>>>> - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with >>>>> the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then >>>>> within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a >>>>> little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on >>>>> the server to timeout). >>>>> >>>>> Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for >>>>> different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was >>>>> always the same. >>>>> >>>>> So, below are the ipconfig outputs >>>>> - before to start the test >>>>> - when bge0 gets unplugged >>>>> - when bge0 gets plugged back in >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't see anything odd. >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>> 1500 >>>>> >>>>> options=8009b >>>>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 >>>>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>>>> status: active >>>>> laggproto failover >>>>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> >>>>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>> 1500 >>>>> >>>>> options=8009b >>>>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 >>>>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>>>> status: active >>>>> laggproto failover >>>>> laggport: bge1 flags=4 >>>>> laggport: bge0 flags=1 >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>> 1500 >>>>> >>>>> options=8009b >>>>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 >>>>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 >>>>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>>>> status: active >>>>> laggproto failover >>>>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> >>>>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 >>>>> __________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Also nothing unusual on dmesg: >>>>> >>>>> ....... >>>>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN >>>>> bge0: link state changed to UP >>>>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN >>>>> bge1: link state changed to UP >>>>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN >>>>> bge0: link state changed to UP >>>>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN >>>>> bge1: link state changed to UP >>>>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN >>>>> bge0: link state changed to UP >>>>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN >>>>> bge1: link state changed to UP >>>>> ....... >>>>> >>>>> The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: >>>>> >>>>> ....... >>>>> ifconfig_bge0="up" >>>>> ifconfig_bge1="up" >>>>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 >>>>> xxx.xx.xx.224/24" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" >>>>> ....... >>>>> >>>>> The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 >>>>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 >>>>> >>>>> Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) >>>>> not from any of the jail in place. >>>>> Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f >>>>> >>>>> Sponsor: >>>>> Offerta speciale: a partire da soli Euro 18.90 puoi stampare le tue Foto su vera Tela Pittorica e creare Quadri fino a 80x50 cm! >>>>> Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11453&d=15-3 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f >>> >>> Sponsor: >>> ING DIRECT Conto Arancio. 4,20% per 12 mesi, zero spese, aprilo in due minuti! >>> Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11921&d=16-3 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > -- > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > Innammorarsi � facile con Meetic, milioni di single si sono iscritti, si sono conosciuti e hanno riscoperto l'amore. Tutto con Meetic, prova anche tu! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8292&d=16-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:19:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A71B106566B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dghughes82@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6748FC20 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so5516282wer.13 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v7oXS816pz35wyLvaSgw1t0g9GgqVFOSG9dru7zQFrk=; b=U3zHq0AZOPZCwr46BYPNzxozlbICe9Hv8CnY07bl01fq+HJQvEmXrrcAIKmnYq8Iou ZRNJlNq9qIOQONdm0pdP3a9D1g4KbxsuJCPEHQUFSCkSmmlG5DkXjbgr8Lf2tG5R81Gr scHHYo0liaeP/eICnE15dcTjuyW6+X47v6XrUkxUoRJDealV3GGOIOfvVt5uKuyH91eW pgNMk7JpWpJxSOJQLztOq0wgX00X5XeoWC2IAGrdBJgmHkgTjBLLVZejV+s57KKwhhsZ XqPfVSB8tZrSnzzLi9h2n8VYhs62uC/SA7jqgp79rQEwWZd2IC3JRUe5iJ5kYW9qYPXg rjfw== Received: by 10.216.143.91 with SMTP id k69mr2172233wej.65.1331921974968; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.140] (87-194-90-206.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.90.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n15sm629358wiw.6.2012.03.16.11.19.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:19:32 +0000 From: David Hughes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:19:36 -0000 Hi all, Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but I wonder if I could trouble you for some advice about setting up website subdomains with Apache. I currently have a website up and running on a jailed VPS; I've been trying to set up subdomains so that one might navigate to a certain area of the site by using a URL of the form blog.mywebsite.net rather than mywebsite.net/blog. I've tried reading the official Apache documentation and a number of tutorials that I've found online, but nothing I've tried has worked so far. Do Virtual Hosts behave differently if they're within a jail? Or do I need some sort of DNS registration for subdomains? I've been trying to figure it out by myself, with little success so far - I'm quite new to this. Thanks for your help, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:38:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D971065672 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwinlculp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC7A8FC17 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so4288753bkc.13 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:38:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=z8ilX2k7+7fqwEY6dmT3Rs7fmCQHahq79NbRilndEyc=; b=VrPle12XHCBGUVYXMvp/q8UNag0ndF4R4Nljyas4e2nu+4DK73Rh2O8aKrRZGltbB2 fSoLVRlKhHJbzYy4AcSXPRp/rLcKnfOerE/0SiGrzcdvmrhBCC5Qoc0mi1/zJIsNjQRi YPI3wrFpTLlIv7x73PEwDPhHOTTzjgehxH91GxnVjSUGZcxx4QJJ4ZthaFw5NFXNBdQa OCpIurNSDOYH/7ZnAiNDEpbx55Scv8S2MCUcibzgcq4ne0nnEcDZ1MFfQqvqR0vy8XFI Tt6mMyImUmtL3bhX1Wltbo62m32mL2vOE3f7GOHRCKBnh/GyraR+C3D96VWJf+/kla/C 7NdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.130.151 with SMTP id t23mr1404510bks.27.1331923111384; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.174.203 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:38:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> References: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Edwin L. Culp W." To: David Hughes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:38:38 -0000 2012/3/16 David Hughes > Hi all, > > Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but I wonder if I could trouble > you for some advice about setting up website subdomains with Apache. I > currently have a website up and running on a jailed VPS; I've been trying > to set up subdomains so that one might navigate to a certain area of the > site by using a URL of the form blog.mywebsite.net rather than > mywebsite.net/blog. > > I've tried reading the official Apache documentation and a number of > tutorials that I've found online, but nothing I've tried has worked so far. > Do Virtual Hosts behave differently if they're within a jail? Or do I need > some sort of DNS registration for subdomains? I've been trying to figure it > out by myself, with little success so far - I'm quite new to this. > If you have control of your DNS for mywebsite.net just add a CNAME for blog.mywebsite.net and add a virtual server to your apache configuration. I'm assuming that you control your DNS and your apache server. More subdomains would requier repeating the process. Not much help without a bit more info on your installation. ed > > Thanks for your help, > > David > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:39:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448C5106564A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D308FC14 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so7827357iah.13 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=aCnQTGnBBkRnY5wE8SF9IY7yb+4vRI0G7NVK0B7BJhg=; b=RQbUjcEpgZk1i3VrReK9nXHVOZobHqWa3eVwe09iNE+YoMKx2ucucZyQTo3axaHYbq rfCwVjoFw+2/iuKK3RR6iMyri9yzVycCsk4kHFQgwLCvkfzNDOH2bSiaF7aBo26vWImA aTeYzigcPFPvGMn/ZrISrn6cj8AHs1GTtxK1mn0ogQ+8WB0WEFFAg7FPIIWTHgNUAOEZ NhryCyAue2dmiNEDJYMq0V3t4Xzdl+J9OAsLtbhLPr4CCwx6kdPr+GKk9BtZojZOVT1e EJrOUhGvj+FC9v+jjFbRc0Jk+kqxWJWp8ALSUSii4sCY6yraC0CBkiT3tYGzgqfFwS// /DTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.36.225 with SMTP id t1mr153201igj.69.1331923160526; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:39:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> References: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:39:18 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aH5TGCRehGgjWZdoaOL1kXxE2Vc Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: David Hughes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmm7ShdHz0H7AR6K7SSPJUzyQB1PpJgxU49sUorrWRpjOBBf5xeO7Uaz37Y6B3JUu3rnrBS Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:39:22 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, David Hughes wrote: > Hi all, > > Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but I wonder if I could trouble > you for some advice about setting up website subdomains with Apache. I > currently have a website up and running on a jailed VPS; I've been trying to > set up subdomains so that one might navigate to a certain area of the site > by using a URL of the form blog.mywebsite.net rather than > mywebsite.net/blog. > > I've tried reading the official Apache documentation and a number of > tutorials that I've found online, but nothing I've tried has worked so far. > Do Virtual Hosts behave differently if they're within a jail? Or do I need > some sort of DNS registration for subdomains? I've been trying to figure it > out by myself, with little success so far - I'm quite new to this. Please specify some more info: Are you in a FreeBSD Jail and you have a public or private IP bound to the Jail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:40:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD761065672 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCC08FC20 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.86] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2GIdt1w072086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:39:56 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4F6388F4.1020503@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:39:48 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Hughes References: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:40:03 -0000 On 16/03/2012 18:19, David Hughes wrote: > Hi all, > > Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but I wonder if I could > trouble you for some advice about setting up website subdomains with > Apache. I currently have a website up and running on a jailed VPS; > I've been trying to set up subdomains so that one might navigate to a > certain area of the site by using a URL of the form blog.mywebsite.net > rather than mywebsite.net/blog. > > I've tried reading the official Apache documentation and a number of > tutorials that I've found online, but nothing I've tried has worked so > far. Do Virtual Hosts behave differently if they're within a jail? Or > do I need some sort of DNS registration for subdomains? I've been > trying to figure it out by myself, with little success so far - I'm > quite new to this. > If you post a sample virtualhost config people can comment and point out suggestions.. (there's a couple of ways to do it.) yes, you need subdomains to have DNS entries ( or hosts file entries at the least). Jails will be irrelevant, other than ensuring that the IP for the virtual host, and the jailed apache is correct/reachable. Paul. > Thanks for your help, > > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546< Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEA11065670 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945B98FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:27:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:27:21 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> To: David Hughes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:57:49 -0000 On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:19 PM, David Hughes wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but I wonder if I could = trouble you for some advice about setting up website subdomains with = Apache. I currently have a website up and running on a jailed VPS; I've = been trying to set up subdomains so that one might navigate to a certain = area of the site by using a URL of the form blog.mywebsite.net rather = than mywebsite.net/blog. >=20 > I've tried reading the official Apache documentation and a number of = tutorials that I've found online, but nothing I've tried has worked so = far. Do Virtual Hosts behave differently if they're within a jail? Or do = I need some sort of DNS registration for subdomains? I've been trying to = figure it out by myself, with little success so far - I'm quite new to = this. >=20 > Thanks for your help, >=20 > David You may need to setup namebased virtual hosting. This article may help point you in the right direction.... = http://bit.ly/qUyZQY Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:39:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F18B106564A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out08.email.it (smtp-out08.email.it [212.97.34.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA78FC12 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B09C01F; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:39:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out08.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out08.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id fRpprLpWpYBE; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:39:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.55] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F58DC03E; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:39:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1331933951.4898.24.camel@urano.inhio.eu> From: Snoop To: Damien Fleuriot Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:39:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4F636F03.1020900@my.gd> References: <1331838392.1453.5.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> <9D882CD7-5BD1-4A49-86AB-DD8A5B86D4EC@my.gd> <1331893099.4898.10.camel@urano.inhio.eu> <4F631FB6.4060303@my.gd> <1331915503.4898.16.camel@urano.inhio.eu> <4F636F03.1020900@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: LAGG bug or misconfiguration??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:39:14 -0000 I actually don't know Damien. I'll have to have a chat with the network guy in the DC as I'm not managing the switch neither I have access to it, plus I'm not really a Cisco guy so I'll forward those questions to him. Moreover I'm getting a bit lost with this. If the ports are in trunk mode would this affect the FreeBSD lagg functionality? If yes how? Do I need "spanning-tree portfast trunk" to make it work properly? I really appreciate your useful inputs Damien. On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 17:49 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > I confirm you should see fast transition for your VLANs to forwarding state. > > > Are your ports in access or trunk mode ? > > If they're trunked, portfast alone won't do it, you need "spanning-tree > portfast trunk". > > Additionally, are you using link aggregation on the cisco swi ? > (channel-group) > > > On 3/16/12 5:31 PM, Snoop wrote: > > That's the STP configuration on my two switch ports: > > > > spanning-tree portfast > > spanning-tree bpduguard enable > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> You're not looking for FEC or ethechannel or 802.3ad at all. > >> > >> What you're looking for, in the case of a *failover* configuration, is a > >> "spanning-tree portfast" feature so that your port doesn't transition > >> through the different spantree states before forwarding traffic. > >> > >> Kindly obtain the configuration from whoever has it and let us know. > >> > >> > >> On 3/16/12 11:18 AM, Snoop wrote: > >>> Hi Dweimer and Damien, > >>> thanks for replying. > >>> > >>> The server is connected to a switch of the datacentre. The configuration > >>> of this switch is unknown to me and I obviously have no access to it but > >>> I truly believe that such an enterprise environment has management > >>> capabilities. > >>> Anyway, in which way the configuration would affect the lagg > >>> functionality? Might this issue be related to what stated in the FreeBSD > >>> LAGG pages in the handbook? > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html > >>> > >>> "Cisco® Fast EtherChannel® > >>> > >>> Cisco Fast EtherChannel (FEC), is a static setup and does not negotiate > >>> aggregation with the peer or exchange frames to monitor the link. If the > >>> switch supports LACP then that should be used instead." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:45 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >>>> Sorry top posting from phone. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Show your switch's port configurations. > >>>> > >>>> We're using VLAN tagging over lagg failover interfaces at work and I have already tried the tests you described, to much better results. > >>>> > >>>> We're also running 8.2 so the only thing that seems to differ between us is the switch config, likely. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 20:06, Snoop wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi there, > >>>>> a while after setting up my new server (with 8 jails in it) I've decided > >>>>> (after postponing several times) to properly check the functionality of > >>>>> the lagg and the result was very disappointing. > >>>>> > >>>>> The test I've done is very simple. > >>>>> I've started copying a file from one site to another of my VPN network > >>>>> (from the server I've been testing the net to another node somewhere > >>>>> else) and in the meantime I've been physically disconnecting the main > >>>>> network cable to check the responsiveness of the lagg configuration. > >>>>> Then I've plugged the cable back to check if the traffic would switch > >>>>> back to the main NIC as it should. > >>>>> > >>>>> The result was basically this (lagg0 members: bge0 primary, bge1 > >>>>> secondary) > >>>>> > >>>>> - when bge0 unplugged the traffic switched almost instantaneously to > >>>>> bge1 > >>>>> - when bge0 plugged back in, the network stopped working completely with > >>>>> the two NICs polling synchronously until I manually unplug bge1. Then > >>>>> within 2-4 seconds traffic goes back on bge0 (I've been waiting for a > >>>>> little more than a minute maximum to avoid all the active connections on > >>>>> the server to timeout). > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, I've repeated the same test about 10-15 times randomly waiting for > >>>>> different times between the unplug-replug procedure. The result was > >>>>> always the same. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, below are the ipconfig outputs > >>>>> - before to start the test > >>>>> - when bge0 gets unplugged > >>>>> - when bge0 gets plugged back in > >>>>> > >>>>> I couldn't see anything odd. > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>>>> 1500 > >>>>> > >>>>> options=8009b > >>>>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>>>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>>>> status: active > >>>>> laggproto failover > >>>>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > >>>>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>>>> 1500 > >>>>> > >>>>> options=8009b > >>>>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>>>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>>>> status: active > >>>>> laggproto failover > >>>>> laggport: bge1 flags=4 > >>>>> laggport: bge0 flags=1 > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > >>>>> 1500 > >>>>> > >>>>> options=8009b > >>>>> ether 00:14:ee:00:8a:c0 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.224 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xx.xx.255 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.227 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.227 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.225 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.225 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.2 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.3 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.3 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.4 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.5 > >>>>> inet 172.16.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.3.6 > >>>>> inet xxx.xx.xx.226 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xx.xx.226 > >>>>> media: Ethernet autoselect > >>>>> status: active > >>>>> laggproto failover > >>>>> laggport: bge1 flags=0<> > >>>>> laggport: bge0 flags=5 > >>>>> __________________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> Also nothing unusual on dmesg: > >>>>> > >>>>> ....... > >>>>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>>>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>>>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>>>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>>>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>>>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>>>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>>>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>>>> bge0: link state changed to DOWN > >>>>> bge0: link state changed to UP > >>>>> bge1: link state changed to DOWN > >>>>> bge1: link state changed to UP > >>>>> ....... > >>>>> > >>>>> The following is the related configuration in rc.conf: > >>>>> > >>>>> ....... > >>>>> ifconfig_bge0="up" > >>>>> ifconfig_bge1="up" > >>>>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 > >>>>> xxx.xx.xx.224/24" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_0="inet xxx.xx.xx.225/32" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_1="inet xxx.xx.xx.226/32" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_2="inet xxx.xx.xx.227/32" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_3="inet 172.16.3.2/27" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_4="inet 172.16.3.3/27" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_5="inet 172.16.3.4/27" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_6="inet 172.16.3.5/27" > >>>>> ifconfig_lagg0_alias_7="inet 172.16.3.6/27" > >>>>> ....... > >>>>> > >>>>> The system is an IBM xSeries 336 type 8837 > >>>>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 > >>>>> > >>>>> Just for the record, I've done the test from the host (xxx.xx.xx.224/24) > >>>>> not from any of the jail in place. > >>>>> Any idea or similar issue around? Am I missing something? > >>>>> Thanks. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8292&d=16-3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 06:59:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C76106566C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433F08FC08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q2H70dwF096801; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 02:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 02:00:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201203170700.q2H70dwF096801@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: dghughes82@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:59:22 -0000 David Hughes wrote > Hi all, > > Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but I wonder if I could > trouble you for some advice about setting up website subdomains with > Apache. I currently have a website up and running on a jailed VPS; I've > been trying to set up subdomains so that one might navigate to a certain > area of the site by using a URL of the form blog.mywebsite.net rather > than mywebsite.net/blog. > > I've tried reading the official Apache documentation and a number of > tutorials that I've found online, but nothing I've tried has worked so > far. Do Virtual Hosts behave differently if they're within a jail? Or do > I need some sort of DNS registration for subdomains? I've been trying to > figure it out by myself, with little success so far - I'm quite new to this. This takes several things to make it work. 1) You must have DNS entries for all the various {foo}.domian.tld paths that you intend to use. CNAMEs that point to domain.tld will work, combined with an 'A' (and/or 'AAAA') records for the domin.tld name itself. You'll also need an rDNS record for the IP address -- that points to domiain.tld . This stuff is necessary so that a web browser knows how/where to find the server for {foo}.domiain.tld . 2) then you need to tell Apache that it is to services requests for multiple domain names. This is what the 'virtualhost' stuff in the Apache config file does. 3) the web browser *MUST* generate 'HTTP/1.1' queries -- where the hostname that one is expecting a response from is, itself, included in the request that is sent to the server at the 'resolved' IP address. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 11:02:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4223106566C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BBB8FC15 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (unknown [82.246.30.233]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA884C8180 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:02:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 134E4284FD; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:02:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:02:10 +0100 From: Harald Weis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:02:19 -0000 Hi All, Could someone please tell me whether the following card is supported by 8.2-RELEASE-p3 (a card available in France) ? Carte PCI Wifi-N Essential TEW-643PI, 300 Mbps, TrendNet Thank you in advance. -- Harald Weis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 11:35:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48754106564A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debian-www-admin@debian.or.jp) Received: from osdn.debian.or.jp (osdn.debian.or.jp [202.221.179.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0D08FC17 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.debian.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osdn.debian.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D45FC2E34 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:51:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:51:40 +0900 From: debian-www-admin@debian.or.jp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <201203171951.FMLAAA8937.debian-www@debian.or.jp> References: <20120317105136.220BFC2DB7@osdn.debian.or.jp> X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] X-ML-Info: If you have a question, please contact debian-www-admin@debian.or.jp; Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Subject: Subscribe request result (debian-www ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: debian-www-ctl@debian.or.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:35:04 -0000 Hi, I am the fml ML manager for the ML . --debian-www@debian.or.jp, Be Seeing You! ************************************************************ If you have any questions or problems, please contact debian-www-admin@debian.or.jp ************************************************************ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 14:06:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427D5106566B for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064B28FC08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so9459871iah.13 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:06:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=+k1WmkzGKG5m8g5f/zJN2PLEDoE9JmVbHSixWs/C3rs=; b=KF6PJuUxace3abZe9v0GX0BEBRAFpfQxLEL2tnGkER7tUsuxT5V7nz95WIYSon1O6s 9iBODM/U2F5Z3QGCbC8OYmOa/wKUxu6b234XIMZ6fdsAYV5cAwrRfjRR7psQZdcl9FrG pKpL+VXl8ajhGC+ZuqHEsN1fO9V7tZIqsx7R69fNM++6PDBwRM7YmGRMU+/PUXwuPXJg 8y++1TjBaSYiKu6S8LaBcvdwDQ9HMIXpENzCeSKCMdmFTSP2+eoUlzBjIeJ6aXYFRQ+S toSrP83rvw7D13Mb3TbJp/Xvvo4kQiKlnvTNCskhjz7zMMSghrScuj8TFvu8ArcnygX2 Y22w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.88.161 with SMTP id bh1mr1901484igb.64.1331993211283; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:06:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201203171951.FMLAAA8937.debian-www@debian.or.jp> References: <20120317105136.220BFC2DB7@osdn.debian.or.jp> <201203171951.FMLAAA8937.debian-www@debian.or.jp> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:06:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1guMFWktTuJi_A-Y0gXLC9INjdc Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/BlB62DjFGzXhzCWyx9fWZJzXtZ7LVrtX6akp07w0/sq7YkeJLamBWJeiRE8cCeiQG4fG Subject: Re: Subscribe request result (debian-www ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:06:52 -0000 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:51 AM, wrote: > Hi, I am the fml ML manager for the ML . > > Hmmm, and I thought all Debianites were FBSD-hating zealots. Guess the Japanese tribe is more lax. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 14:12:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD02106564A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410018FC0C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so9468795iah.13 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:12:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=YCmuLhsKLrB7zAqXaVVZCZHr31bj7IgJeB2kENkme0w=; b=QgiFl0Nc3piOH6bueiJfy7pOz8cp0cE3dFQT30pLnmwzVCHU4/1oOqTvN/aMI3JDRR X9s70J1G8wmFDs3kSLgHzLR81PaKfm87eedUsZn+W4YpCrAhUTxRPhURrHBt/7sFlpPB G5z0YqCK7dXYtmivMnUMQ6u06XG78Jsfq/RK60UCRv4uTO9jzpUKWQJhm6sCpMUF0YdP IQnb998OTTmGVFCL8kAAnSrmbeTcGIDOuaqtSucRtzFHhcgmj552qXr5As0+eiKgH623 MNVUxvxpxcDrgYoVaij6SRRYJKrVa1IjH4OY9B6/4ZcxD5ZOczk/ggmtnqjJJsTfJG8V FnsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.179.102 with SMTP id df6mr1901244igc.69.1331993530528; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:12:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201203170700.q2H70dwF096801@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <4F638434.3090207@googlemail.com> <201203170700.q2H70dwF096801@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:12:10 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TA-I_lBB4aNMvKsLHKr08kBfkKI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm3Yu+VJ7hOpYEOfpHpAou5I6nvz/ZHhxOzi6UUTYhY+ccJ4JGO5h1SmouAq28NC9/wSyRZ Cc: dghughes82@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:12:11 -0000 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Robert Bonomi w= rote: > > David Hughes wrote >> Hi all, >> [...] > > This takes several things to make it work. > =A01) You must have DNS entries for all the various =A0{foo}.domian.tld [...] Yeah, for one, the OP should provide details of his implementation since as you very well point out there are many places where this can go wrong... We use a jail that reverse proxies to all other jails. This allows a 2 layer set-up that is not only more secure, but more flexible as well. We still don't know if the OP's jail is bound to a public IP or not... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 14:44:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27251065670 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A128FC12 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2HEiO0A079476; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q2HEiOod079473; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Harald Weis In-Reply-To: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> Message-ID: References: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:44:27 -0000 On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Harald Weis wrote: > Could someone please tell me whether the following card is supported by > 8.2-RELEASE-p3 (a card available in France) ? > > Carte PCI Wifi-N Essential TEW-643PI, 300 Mbps, TrendNet That's a Realtek 8190 chipset. There is no native driver at present, ndisgen may be an option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 15:18:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF77D106566C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8224D8FC15 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so5951786yhg.13 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:18:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ofkJ3tWlRPWyQmRc4wy+Zx+PiAHkYlYpm6aiLV2ErkM=; b=ohIz2oMBABeIXE0KRJdNsIMrqY7aOFcHrWPhdkrNcn3mAtT9adfWOlK1/eEdakeCaa EFM2DD+KrRQF4SFMTcAd6jV9eqrIeURWcMdQezYpiRIxxAtMzAZaCZK49lbWmpeIYveB 5mJEu86cU/Hu+jzHHvBx2EfYTSfg+5DUiYXXpbe56zECVLDahODmagLjk7aq3IheKRuD UviIsz97FJpatpUsuhr+BtuK8tcYX0g0W9W9tLtkNLQs4BW4GP/g9vTFI2ySN+iKtkI8 jS0o0Wy/+v5KXg9V9xXgN9Nl2sMp7i8pOB86iDbqAUH1P7xYKX8D0qIA4SwHJPj7O+Vq puQA== Received: by 10.236.153.104 with SMTP id e68mr6561308yhk.74.1331997489010; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p3sm10273397and.4.2012.03.17.08.18.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3V96cG2Xqnz2CG4p for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:18:05 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlAfxxRF6sgR9vrEMm4XfDiul4pAl2KnqDzcIaPYxTupO/FkP21BsbZh2AVzLONsKRE4sZ+ Subject: Re: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:18:10 -0000 On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block articulated: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Harald Weis wrote: > > > Could someone please tell me whether the following card is > > supported by 8.2-RELEASE-p3 (a card available in France) ? > > > > Carte PCI Wifi-N Essential TEW-643PI, 300 Mbps, TrendNet > > That's a Realtek 8190 chipset. There is no native driver at present, > ndisgen may be an option. I have never had any luck with ndisgen and 64 bit drivers and even less with "N" protocol devices. -- Jerry ☘ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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[87.194.90.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fw5sm9095334wib.0.2012.03.17.09.38.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F64BDEF.3030602@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:38:07 +0000 From: David Hughes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts & Subdomains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:38:11 -0000 Hi all, thanks very much for your advice. To answer your questions: It's a FreeBSD jail that I rent from Exonetric, which I've been using for experimental / developmental purposes. I haven't registered a personal domain name for it - as it's mainly for me to mess about with than for the world to see - but it is bound to a public IP and generic domain name (http://jail0152.vps.exonetric.net/). I don't have access to the domain name that came with the jail - and I think that is probably where the problem lies. Here's the current text of my httpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/NSaj8YfS Output of ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/Gke651xt I tried adding additional entries for subdomains, but it didn't work - although I think I understand why that is now. Me having this jail is mostly an exercise in learning the whys and wherefores of remote Unix[-like] server administration - something tells me I need to learn more about the workings of DNS, as I'd never heard of CNAMEs before. Thanks again for all your help, much appreciated. Best regards, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 18:05:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996F6106566B for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EA48FC08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86071A70604 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4186 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2012 18:05:45 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21155, pid: 5775, t: 0.1793s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Mar 2012 18:05:44 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CE633C1E; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D8F7E39860; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:05:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Dan Lists References: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:05:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Dan Lists's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:21:24 -0500") Message-ID: <44mx7fksr1.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USA Anonymous CVS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:05:46 -0000 Dan Lists writes: >>From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html > > USA: anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs (For ssh, use ssh version > 2 and no password is required.) > > SSH2 HostKey: 2048 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62 > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub > > Example A-2. Using SSH to Check Out the src/ Tree: > > % cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src > The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (216.87.78.137)' can't > be established. > DSA key fingerprint is 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62. > Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes > Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of > known hosts. > > However, when I acutally issue the command, I get a different DSA key, > different IP, and it will not accept any password: > > # cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src > The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (96.47.72.116)' can't > be established. > DSA key fingerprint is 4e:bc:48:a0:e1:27:0a:62:c8:da:45:31:d4:ad:b2:00. > Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes > Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of > known hosts. > Password: > Password: > Password: > Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). > cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) > > Is the USA anonymous CVS server no longer operational? It's just ssh that isn't working as documented; this may have changed for security reasons. The pserver method still works, so things aren't completely offline. If ssh access is no longer supported, it should be removed from the Handbook, but I can't be sure there isn't just a configuration change needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 18:07:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5E31065674 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F28C68FC15 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Mar 2012 18:07:28 -0000 Received: from d135193.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO FBSD.lokilan) [80.171.135.193] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2012 19:07:28 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+JR+N2P8CJy0iVrweu0v9g27Vu5GGgav+z0js6Oc mx0Tv8tZDqtaxU Message-ID: <4F64D2E5.8000800@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:07:33 +0100 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312225747.b7e68635.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120315202441.GA74550@amd.catfish.ddns.org> In-Reply-To: <20120315202441.GA74550@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:07:31 -0000 On 03/15/12 21:24, Sabine Baer wrote: > I do not undestand exactly, what You mean. I did a cvsup -g -L 2 > ports-supfile several times, I went to all /usr/ports/x11*/dirctories > and made a 'make clean' for al the ports therein, but nothing helped. > Sabine I see that you have a german mailadress, so i will write in germany. Guck mal nach, ob du unter /etc/ eine Datei mit dem Namen portsnap.conf hast. Wenn ja, bearbeitet die Datei einmal und ruf portsnap fetch portsnap extract auf. Damit werden alle Ports unter /usr/ports auf einen aktuellen Stand gebracht. Danach reicht eigentlich ein portsnap fetch portsnap update aus, um auf die letzten Ports zu kommen. Wenn du eine Flatrate hast, kannst du vielleicht auch mal dein ganzes System auf 9.0 aktualisieren (freebsd-update ist für die Standardinstallation ohne Kompilierung ganz gut). Einige Probleme treten auf, wenn die Libarys auf dem System zu alt sind, aber in den Ports aktuelle benötigt werden. mfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 18:13:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6545A1065673 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C729F8FC1A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Mar 2012 18:13:32 -0000 Received: from f050241216.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO byteboxII.home) [78.50.241.216] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2012 19:13:32 +0100 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19SElBWmxFSfqwD//Rp+5SdTwouZQhOO+jxzwxRIs hXEgvphkzJtA5Q Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:13:19 +0100 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd@qeng-ho.org Message-Id: <20120317191319.7f45e648.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4F60966E.3050803@qeng-ho.org> References: <4F605D79.4070500@qeng-ho.org> <4F60966E.3050803@qeng-ho.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.3 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: 'NB5d@1]I],; 5f]D0Fw?; g&E6i|{1:sF'aA|FuxoBv8CQLNWai(8%vgK9RiTO}Zz\yEafdV GZ-/g%=?L6uwChNkpYQ3yaPv`#sH@sM(uy}HqNi''HAi!rxx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nVidia card manufacturer recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:13:39 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:00:30 +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: >On 03/14/12 08:57, Arthur Chance wrote: >> Somewhere, possibly here, a while back I saw a remark that certain >> manufacturer's nVidia cards worked reliably with the nVidia supplied >> drivers and others usually have problems because they tweak nVidia's >> reference spec. Of course, I didn't bookmark it and neither Google nor >> searching the last years' worth of the freebsd-questions@ archives has >> turned it up. >> >> Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or which I >> should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520. > >I've just realised that I probably should have added "for an amd64 system". >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I have a 1024MB Club 3D GeForce GT 520 Low Profile and it works like a charm. with the drivers in the ports. cheers -- Daniel Dowse \\|// (o o) ---------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------------------------- - Der hoechste Genuss besteht in der - - Zufriedenheit mit sich selbst. Jean-Jacques Rousseau - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail - - /\ - against microsoft attachments - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - Please Dont forget to reply below quoted text section - ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 21:03:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A901065674 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689598FC0A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (unknown [82.246.30.233]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AC34C810F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:03:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 1261E284FD; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:03:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:03:43 +0100 From: Harald Weis To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120317210343.GA4575@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:03:53 -0000 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:18:05AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block articulated: > > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Harald Weis wrote: > > > > > Could someone please tell me whether the following card is > > > supported by 8.2-RELEASE-p3 (a card available in France) ? > > > > > > Carte PCI Wifi-N Essential TEW-643PI, 300 Mbps, TrendNet > > > > That's a Realtek 8190 chipset. There is no native driver at present, > > ndisgen may be an option. > > I have never had any luck with ndisgen and 64 bit drivers and even less > with "N" protocol devices. > > -- > Jerry ??? > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Is this one supported ? Réseau Carte PCI D-LINK PCI wifi N 300Mbps -- Harald Weis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 21:54:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C079106564A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D4D8FC12 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2HLsJsu081041; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:54:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q2HLsJoK081038; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:54:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:54:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Harald Weis In-Reply-To: <20120317210343.GA4575@pollux.local.net> Message-ID: References: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> <20120317210343.GA4575@pollux.local.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-312713060-1332021259=:80983" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:54:22 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-312713060-1332021259=:80983 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Harald Weis wrote: > Is this one supported ? > Réseau Carte PCI D-LINK PCI wifi N 300Mbps According to the Newegg comments, that has an Atheros 5008 chipset: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127218 Make sure that's the same card. Also, be aware that D-Link sometimes changes chipsets without changing part numbers. Can't speak for that particular card, but that chipset is supported by ath(4). With Adrian Chadd's work, it can even do 802.11n with -current or maybe 9-stable. ---902635197-312713060-1332021259=:80983-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 22:14:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457CF106566C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969638FC0C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (unknown [82.246.30.233]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E2E4C8044 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:14:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 46F0A284FD; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:14:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:14:34 +0100 From: Harald Weis To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120317221434.GB4575@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:14:43 -0000 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:18:05AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:44:24 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block articulated: > > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Harald Weis wrote: > > > > > Could someone please tell me whether the following card is > > > supported by 8.2-RELEASE-p3 (a card available in France) ? > > > > > > Carte PCI Wifi-N Essential TEW-643PI, 300 Mbps, TrendNet > > > > That's a Realtek 8190 chipset. There is no native driver at present, > > ndisgen may be an option. > > I have never had any luck with ndisgen and 64 bit drivers and even less > with "N" protocol devices. > > -- > Jerry ??? > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Is this one supported ? Réseau Carte PCI D-LINK PCI wifi N 300Mbps I just realize, this is "N" protocol again. What about this one ? Netgear Wn311B Carte Pci WiFi 300MBPS Rangemax Next "Wn311B" seems to be "N" as well ? I can see only 2 cards [http://www.rueducommerce.fr/index/carte%20wifi%20pci] which are not "N", but they are rather slow. Carte PCI WiFi AirPlus G - DWL-G510 and TEW-423PI - Carte PCI WiFi 802.11g - 54 Mbps [Oh, "TEW" again] -- Harald Weis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 22:24:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EC3106566C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8768FC18 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2HMO69l081150; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q2HMO6dC081147; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Harald Weis In-Reply-To: <20120317221434.GB4575@pollux.local.net> Message-ID: References: <20120317110210.GA2646@pollux.local.net> <20120317111805.78b85a50@scorpio> <20120317221434.GB4575@pollux.local.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1500903029-1332023046=:80983" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Wireless PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:24:09 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1500903029-1332023046=:80983 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Harald Weis wrote: > Is this one supported ? > Réseau Carte PCI D-LINK PCI wifi N 300Mbps > > I just realize, this is "N" protocol again. "N" cards are backwards compatible with 802.11g. ---902635197-1500903029-1332023046=:80983--