From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 03:31:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5C0106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 03:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA0C8FC16 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 03:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so1992415wgb.31 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:31:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=j7ZG5kemMIiBK9KQPvNjGEArPnLKRqS+p+0pOjU8HqY=; b=aUOVH5s35NFN5hp9aebpjT1OsLHdqTf223x6EymC8pDUwMXG1BRz+joUtQpdkuxsl4 6gCH1spgOjiuFDkD3td3Hn6WoOV+o98cTNxrN+vE+MFmLxqyV12Rve3gqWd5dKSm95+D TvoEHoKk7Tfvu1WAeyy8QrEh/OrfYXgzntIgM4dNMCTarlJE/IQaL9u9DLm8oARPGb7e AIyfL1jdg52nRXLgtMAveqBiBtWLXZBXBFuwNYRNdJLB1bcOip+sUxN2mhe5of+uJ0Dc 7dguWL+OErLbXn1YNJvhEHG16dHUJruYC8JfaoiefhHK+Jyn2uWaGi8jSRylSXMfgjpm jipw== Received: by 10.216.134.2 with SMTP id r2mr2299463wei.31.1338089473887; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (paris.c-mal.com. [88.170.200.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fm1sm9932675wib.10.2012.05.26.20.31.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 May 2012 20:31:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <4FC0C151.2050808@martinlaabs.de> In-Reply-To: <4FC0C151.2050808@martinlaabs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 05:31:10 +0200 To: Martin Laabs X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnUwE7/7RljR6Hd9a7T8upaCGJ2Q5972p5lS3/+BOXDDFmUkMHTM84s+lJE4/Pi8GF1osLa Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many sections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 03:31:21 -0000 On 26 May 2012, at 13:41, Martin Laabs wrote: > Hello, >=20 > while updating my system I got the following error message while make inst= allworld: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> syscons/green (install) > install -o root -g wheel -m 555 green_saver.ko /boot/kernel > install -o root -g wheel -m 555 green_saver.ko.symbols /boot/kernel > kldxref /boot/kernel > kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many sections > kldxref: error while reading /boot/kernel/kernel: Bad address > su:/usr/src$ >=20 Hold on a sec you run install*world* and it tries to install a kernel ? Looks fishy to me. Also, try with a generic kernel, just to check if that fails as well. > I tried to remove the /usr/obj and remake the kernel by make buildkernel a= gain but the error remains. > I use 8.2-STABLE with a freshly updated RELENG_8 src. >=20 > I do not build all kernel modules so I have the following in my make.conf > MODULES_OVERRIDE =3D nfsserver linux linprocfs geom/geom_bde syscons/green= >=20 > However - I don't think this explains the misbehavior of kldxref. >=20 > Can anybody give me a hint where to search for the bug? >=20 > Best regards, > Martin Laabs >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 03:57:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB21065674 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 03:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FD48FC08 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 03:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so520757eek.13 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:57:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=fqmS6qCvmoVku7gzdjNw3T9dGz/e7N92gjUQ4Rn+5Vc=; b=f0bWb8ZNr2GD3qLZkmC7mT8bAYiDJKc3pyXnjQb4DBmNO48JRtrFv9qFNk/7x287Oo HH1q/nmuYP8z5BUiwPwyjWllGR4w8GeClxtoh7JNTKUfixDV2R/5wfMM3cythLWjZu/0 k4Vn94wEko16wrJslnVnQRRVaxDUB5ctJVsColN+DPX+vZFzdIp+VzE8sFpuVG8iIvPq AHQhPUguQ8EbJDIHZ6OGb8CyUlsJj9nIAaOvXPiWguameWJqCnz+gACN7OEHgeeApHKy oBR/+HPoVjPMKAyuqPrlRyKko9udQoCUeaFAkrxUMX01sWURhAc6aexyItiLUcQCCKbG 04Nw== Received: by 10.14.45.74 with SMTP id o50mr754521eeb.103.1338091058070; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2a01:e35:8aac:83c0:39ae:1d41:ea0b:8387? ([2a01:e35:8aac:83c0:39ae:1d41:ea0b:8387]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n52sm23047108eeh.9.2012.05.26.20.57.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 May 2012 20:57:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 05:57:34 +0200 To: ajtiM X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkF/NhXPR2kt0Ghv0RqlXm8wlUGfrMq3SWDF02KvC2zStXr5MuBKMl9GeUk5VgwU/IZRo4h Cc: kde-list freebsd , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 03:57:40 -0000 On 26 May 2012, at 03:12, ajtiM wrote: > Why I am upset but not just me? >=20 > I am running KDE 4.8 from January on my Linux computer. Now is almost June= and=20 > we got KDE 4.8 on FreeBSD too. 5 months testing and it works? No. The mode= rn=20 > OS for the desktop computer doesn;t works. O.K. OS works but installatoon o= f 5=20 > months testing of KDE doesn;t. > And help? Read /usr/ports/UOPDATING!! I red before I start inastallation b= ut I=20 > am not sure if helpers did! Thank you for wasting my time. >=20 > Mitja 1/ English, learn it. 2/ Remind me how much you paid for free software you've most likely never co= ntributed to ? 3/ You're too busy being a whiny raging kid to actually explain your problem= 4/ Even if you had, I doubt anyone would want to help you after your epic fl= ame Seeing you do not even show the slightest hint of respect or gratitude towar= ds the people who actually work on the software in their free time: 5/ I'm gonna respectfully ask that you STFU You're such a good rager, I'm convinced you shan't need google to figure out= the acronym. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 07:25:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF30F1065672 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 07:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpnwork@yandex.ru) Received: from forward17.mail.yandex.net (forward17.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3066F8FC08 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 07:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (smtp19.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.19]) by forward17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D03361060B05 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:25:21 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338103521; bh=X5sxeYj4Th3jXgm16IaEG71NcGbQLDfT7u9NnaF0lSc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JN0llikdc9MyYm1n7W+m8NsydFmOnmpx5FBXl4vCFjJLcpoy4UAuiV3fZWoKZBzPS nJC15hRMT9N2gxPdII7xkgDcUm72PmtEHkaFyjPyhmJPlYw7H/f3/o+18pveB6BJNr ljOYpgaiGoMJehga0/6PiwontLM7TyMmXU1Zngjw= Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BE329BE001B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:25:21 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 86-102-25-54.xdsl.primorye.ru (86-102-25-54.xdsl.primorye.ru [86.102.25.54]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id PJvmrZ3t-PKv0Nhbk; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:25:21 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338103521; bh=X5sxeYj4Th3jXgm16IaEG71NcGbQLDfT7u9NnaF0lSc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uSe0+7EFdB7m/I6oqJYQNfw3sjcNEmQ1QkGOGr+MxhEHbZWT1AtKMi/MmXeBPRfYa NMlWLVDA+IMdsb3tzFlX4j/SZMY+HxwLARmjrMFuSxhWzH572b3aysahNtOSdULIwI pMgLgN3dfgx9FgaMTyl1zQX2Cai4PL01o/e1krrw= Message-ID: <4FC1D6DF.1030005@yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:25:19 +1100 From: from_mars User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120523214906.GA71149@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20120523214906.GA71149@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:25:23 -0000 Hi. Sorry for my english. I have a dual boot system, windows 7 64-bit (ada1) and FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 GEOM (ada0). I did it by installing FreeBSD boot0 on Windows HDD: boot0cfg -B ada1 then I choose Windows HDD as first boot drive in BIOS. Now at boot i have boot0 menu: F1 - Win F5 - Drive 1 F6 ........ don't remember where Win is booting Windows 7, and F5 booting FreeBSD. My Windows HDD divided on to partitions, so i have to use 'boot0cfg -m some_mask' to delete second Windows partition from boot0 menu. Everything works fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 11:04:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375B3106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD018FC0A for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so5058732obc.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 04:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hJEERLNThti8Mgiw9ZPAw7tMIfgPl/G6LH+ZXQ1MxbI=; b=z7pFywkQeOjx051VMaRAqJr+iaKAugP16SrOz3ZXUasGXirJAff5eNyLEq/HTsfBZN Xf+DNjxszGwkNgGN9I57MCnciqi2UtNwDw72LK80XOlPmpmURLLTwcoDjTkB3IO8VgJQ hMb0FbGfu7ZNQ9QO9wX+dXxWU1J1oGD3TAl68MAPniOESKXg7NX4sEOcISymV0jK3/3p gx/WcPOFT+MkaiRgAtCtK8AL/YJ24scIJGqa3rZivNRseYyfx0DHJSvqxHFa9U7U6oug 0e9jt2a4XGPCsCI6kLTMMz/C1LLEFF0Db+ZZ9zfpXrfMlZyovj7uWiq+XNZcoS2pQstB 4b+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.167.39 with SMTP id zl7mr4802781obb.10.1338116644074; Sun, 27 May 2012 04:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.48.130 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 04:04:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 06:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Franci Nabalanci To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kde-list freebsd , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:04:05 -0000 My French and Italian is enough for me, dear Sir. There are not just English on the world!! How do you know that I didn't contribute to the FreeBSD foundation?? Did you check my bank account?? On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > On 26 May 2012, at 03:12, ajtiM wrote: > > > Why I am upset but not just me? > > > > I am running KDE 4.8 from January on my Linux computer. Now is almost > June and > > we got KDE 4.8 on FreeBSD too. 5 months testing and it works? No. The > modern > > OS for the desktop computer doesn;t works. O.K. OS works but > installatoon of 5 > > months testing of KDE doesn;t. > > And help? Read /usr/ports/UOPDATING!! I red before I start inastallation > but I > > am not sure if helpers did! Thank you for wasting my time. > > > > Mitja > > 1/ English, learn it. > 2/ Remind me how much you paid for free software you've most likely never > contributed to ? > 3/ You're too busy being a whiny raging kid to actually explain your > problem > 4/ Even if you had, I doubt anyone would want to help you after your epic > flame > > > Seeing you do not even show the slightest hint of respect or gratitude > towards the people who actually work on the software in their free time: > > 5/ I'm gonna respectfully ask that you STFU > > You're such a good rager, I'm convinced you shan't need google to figure > out the acronym. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 12:19:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50ED106566B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 12:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@martinlaabs.de) Received: from relay03.alfahosting-server.de (relay03.alfahosting-server.de [80.86.191.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADCD8FC14 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 12:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by relay03.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2FA7532C098F; Sun, 27 May 2012 14:19:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de [109.237.140.30]) by relay03.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ECA32C0998 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 14:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc.martinlaabs.de (p54B32926.dip.t-dialin.net [84.179.41.38]) by alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB9CC515D483 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 14:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC21BCC.40003@martinlaabs.de> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:19:24 +0200 From: Martin Laabs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC0C151.2050808@martinlaabs.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: No X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.4 with ClamAV 0.97.3/14967/Sat May 26 23:29:41 2012 Subject: Re: kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many sections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:19:32 -0000 Hello, On 05/27/12 05:31, Damien Fleuriot wrote: [...] > > Hold on a sec you run install*world* and it tries to install a kernel ? > Looks fishy to me. Sorry - I ran make installkernel of cause. > Also, try with a generic kernel, just to check if that fails as well. Interesting - the GENERIC kernel does as expected - no problem with kldxref. However - after that I tried my own config again and today there are no problems. This is somewhat annoying - I forgot to disable the midnight src update. So I try to run this kernel and hope that the problem was solved between the 26. and 27 May. Best regards, Martin Laabs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 13:39:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CF9106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C918FC08 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so1091497ghb.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PrMWHs8+z7zcq2s8yJ6WDDLUTr6c620RdqynUVMXnXc=; b=Kq5Ihzpqwf0wzJeoltULJ4ZOHqEWJ7O6NXZWNl3/CC2uaB5hD2wAv2BQHLHK6twdWO uxrFoBVUu6Ezby6AjYHK+Duu3wV3unMFtGtFi+um3V2K6n6qqffH50x/n5XRlV41+xeU 3Qn340bKPkejbU30fJ1J98pbBaTlycyQQ+MQvPg9gMoUr3ySI2SLTQfjQr1LoU6rnPaL zS4+aeDUq+wg5CGJV5ZzIkO9GK2mb6DyOdRoZTlZZMr8Dk5w+ZjFKWZVk59cbzR+z2jQ sxwjStJ1bkBp6s4KHMqROzwOoRMThKmYRl/vCGR3jpcVzzkrs5pWoEubEyebISIFj5X/ 0F8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.159.65 with SMTP id k1mr2550700icx.51.1338125939058; Sun, 27 May 2012 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 06:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: xfce4.10, terminal command not working, no icons on panel(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:39:00 -0000 Dear folks, I updated ports and consequently updated to xfce4.10. I try to run terminal and it does not work. Script started on Sun May 27 08:32:31 2012 [olivares@tricorehome ~]$ termian? ?? ?nal /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libxfce4util.so.5" not found, required by "terminal" [olivares@tricorehome ~]$ There are no icons on bottom panel :( Clock is moved from corner. I am not complaining, but I do want advice on how to fix it. I am thinking about removing xfce . directory in home directory, but I am not sure that it would reset everything. The fonts are too small, they were great in Xfce 4.8.3, but now they are too small and it is hard to distingush them. Advice/suggestions/comments are greatly appreciated and will be applied to fix these changes in the xfce camp. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 13:46:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CC2106566B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDD88FC08 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so1801337ggn.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drenet.info; s=google; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CD2vZfxMbicLVEIihe7oKndzeg71bOsAq0mtuaqc/fk=; b=ECvcwF0FJmHeJ7/UTVTTeTTF6+sL/2GxImOutDMUDA+O2ZkQtP2VpTgz/0Sov8Hbgf ASTRkiCodLWgoeqtaa4k4ofsf3StpAksP3sHEhTBy7EXnTehRQxeFX0+xXe4v0VlsDlq EV/QRdLU8zDSUOme9kYbxSNut+h7ZDngG1K1E= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=CD2vZfxMbicLVEIihe7oKndzeg71bOsAq0mtuaqc/fk=; b=YxyxyyzKJaIUXCwYx/QWwxpsNl/6Qp60AG4Qy5v+8SEo/31naHnubjuQx6xW6Gvqd9 c8eJTOtXwsjd5h374wNK5My6VgT+1HMZdr+hyIMJfgD/n740bYqhDOopFtlaqpy7lqhH 7QwS2FDNzuP1RNixp4rU1sRO4oIAzx8jyBXqSsKVeng6KsGxgX4BBiqLx7IWtjh1raGd M8l0mYd4ikbw3x75RS1IZT8lwvg97uNFQqnWfF/Sybft9rbcZAd9XD24IxawCslSSXq4 +eXRiAmaih3HR0klleMyHg59Emby6RmejFzWO8wDd320ELNK1YYS6hykoGqgowmSeHjS PEbg== Received: by 10.101.187.2 with SMTP id o2mr1512451anp.32.1338126359544; Sun, 27 May 2012 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sideswipe.accesso.office (50-88-240-51.res.bhn.net. [50.88.240.51]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e19sm12183575ann.10.2012.05.27.06.45.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 27 May 2012 06:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC23015.2030700@drenet.info> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:45:57 -0400 From: Andre Goree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlhuKqWUNctR4tJhVsrmrVzOa1Zz/qjO4BrHY/aeJ5KxupQkE0e5X61n9UeRjU0URBc9JHT Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:46:05 -0000 On 05/26/2012 05:40 PM, Franci Nabalanci wrote: > I did use portmaster for KDE 4.8 update and it stopped: > > The devel/kdebindings4-python port has been deleted: kdebindings ports have > been refactored. > > Update aborted. > > And I don't know how to save a problem. > > Did you heed /usr/ports/UPDATING when you did the upgrade? 20120525: AFFECTS: users of deskutils/kdepim4, deskutils/kdepim4-runtime AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org kdepim4 has been updated to 4.8.3. For those who prefer old kdepim-4.4.11.1 deskutils/kdepim44* ports have been added. To stay with kdepim-4.4.11.1 run the following commands: # portmaster -o deskutils/kdepim44-runtime kdepim-runtime-4\* # portmaster -o deskutils/kdepim44 kdepim-4\* 20120525: AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.8.3. Several ports were split, thus manual intervention into update procedure is required: # pkg_delete -f kde-runtime-\* ruby\*-kdebindings-korundum\* \ kalgebra-4\* kdeaccessibility-4\* kdeutils-4\* kde-baseapps-\* \ plasma-applet-icontasks\* # portmaster -a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 13:55:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52DA106566B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6400B8FC08 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5FC5E27B; Sun, 27 May 2012 15:53:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.641 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.641 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.643, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Cci7n9qxL2DX; Sun, 27 May 2012 15:53:55 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.140] (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F065E275; Sun, 27 May 2012 15:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC23230.2050903@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:54:56 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: xfce4.10, terminal command not working, no icons on panel(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:55:08 -0000 Antonio Olivares skrev 2012-05-27 15:38: > Dear folks, > > I updated ports and consequently updated to xfce4.10. I try to run > terminal and it does not work. > > Script started on Sun May 27 08:32:31 2012 > > [olivares@tricorehome ~]$ termian? ?? ?nal > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libxfce4util.so.5" not found, > required by "terminal" > [olivares@tricorehome ~]$ > > There are no icons on bottom panel :( Clock is moved from corner. > > I am not complaining, but I do want advice on how to fix it. I am > thinking about removing xfce . directory in home directory, but I am > not sure that it would reset everything. The fonts are too small, > they were great in Xfce 4.8.3, but now they are too small and it is > hard to distingush them. > > Advice/suggestions/comments are greatly appreciated and will be > applied to fix these changes in the xfce camp. > > Regards, > > > Antonio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Have you read the entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING I forgot to remove those ports and got the same error. I removed them after the upgrade and then I did portmaster -tf xfce-4.10 Now terminal and Orage works again :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 14:31:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41877106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 14:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D078FC1B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 14:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so5334192obc.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LUq9budZNIG7hFBvpyTBEQjnFszl3imEgGHyfpaJMDs=; b=AkXGWk0TCygR32gjQN8ckTPX7nD9jOHDe0U0TmH4lP5xRgSAf3TZfSbm8ZsWllqN22 AFujnqM3lxRJdh/7bwJrwMkHNvro69NHGOyuyLmmpBAhSPypqGMiA8UOCGwKZfiS82Ps jwVq1gHDBDyP6h4+JAyawTJTsmlUQ7avUiGrRQzqfl9ZtR1ASSRsqUn1ZE5VC00fojkG DW26i12FVSyLO8wnJSjZ1inO6Q+/GliG7k7oEq0JzfTms3rM1rwaPsMmdrevN0x9p23h 3qk3XyW88VV8klZp/Y/lmr7qmjUxkU4QYX/+Bh9ybPzqnBeGgfw2qyYmEPVbBIkpWujs hteA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.179.103 with SMTP id df7mr2567402igc.35.1338129096325; Sun, 27 May 2012 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC23230.2050903@eskk.nu> References: <4FC23230.2050903@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:31:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: xfce4.10, terminal command not working, no icons on panel(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:31:37 -0000 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > Antonio Olivares skrev 2012-05-27 15:38: >> >> Dear folks, >> >> I updated ports and consequently updated to xfce4.10. =A0I try to run >> terminal and it does not work. >> >> Script started on Sun May 27 08:32:31 2012 >> >> [olivares@tricorehome ~]$ termian? ?? ?nal >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libxfce4util.so.5" not found, >> required by "terminal" >> [olivares@tricorehome ~]$ >> >> There are no icons on bottom panel :( =A0Clock is moved from corner. >> >> I am not complaining, but I do want advice on how to fix it. =A0I am >> thinking about removing xfce . directory in home directory, but I am >> not sure that it would reset everything. =A0The fonts are too small, >> they were great in Xfce 4.8.3, but now they are too small and it is >> hard to distingush them. >> >> Advice/suggestions/comments are greatly appreciated and will be >> applied to fix these changes in the xfce camp. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Antonio > > Have you read the entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING I had confused this with /usr/src/UPDATING, and I saw no entries there for XFCE :(, I have gotten away without viewing the file. I know it is highly recommended to read it, but I confuse it with the other file :( Now I saw what I needed to remove and have done it :) > > I forgot to remove those ports and got the same error. > > I removed them after the upgrade and then I did > > portmaster -tf xfce-4.10 > Now in th process of doing this :) > > Now terminal and Orage works again :-) > > /Leslie > Thanks to you and Dave for your input. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 15:15:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F772106567D for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 15:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEF28FC12 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4RFFCsW039464; Mon, 28 May 2012 01:15:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 01:15:12 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: <20120528010046.J98171@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newsyslog | Cronjob faulty? (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:15:26 -0000 Jos, did you not get my response to your original query over a week ago? I see it made the list archives. Anyway this second time around, Robert Bonomi wins gold for the best guess, with even fewer clues to go on :-) cheers, Ian (who probably said too much, but doesn't resile) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 05:03:23 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jos Chrispijn Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newsyslog | Cronjob faulty? In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 415, Issue 4, Message: 12 On Wed, 16 May 2012 21:44:53 +0200 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > At midnight (00.00) I run this cronjob from my crontab: > > Crontab: > 00 * * * * root newsyslog By 'my' crontab, do you mean the system crontab, /etc/crontab ? If so, that's nearly but not quite the default syntax of: #minute hour mday month wday who command # Rotate log files every hour, if necessary. 0 * * * * root newsyslog Note the single '0'. I don't know if '00' is valid. And it doesn't mean 'at midnight', it means whenever the minute is 0, any hour, any day, any month, any weekday; ie newsyslog is run hourly, on the hour. And the default entry in /etc/newsyslog.conf for maillog is: /var/log/maillog 640 7 * @T00 JC So it's newsyslog using newsyslog.conf(5) that creates maillog if it doesn't yet exist, rotates it to maillog.0 at midnight (T00), thereafter compressing it with bzip2 (J). > For some reason this goes wrong; (if I run 'newsyslog' on any other > time, there is no error message). > > bzip2: Can't open input file /var/log/maillog.0: No such file or directory. > newsyslog: `bzip2 -f /var/log/maillog.0' terminated with a non-zero > status (1) > > /var/log: > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 63162 May 16 21:20 maillog > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 109 May 16 00:00 maillog.0.bz2 > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 73674 May 16 00:00 maillog.1 > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 111 May 15 00:00 maillog.2.bz2 > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 73050 May 15 00:00 maillog.3 > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 109 May 14 00:00 maillog.4.bz2 > -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 184042 May 14 00:00 maillog.5 > > Can somebody tell me what goes wrong here? Looks likely two instances of newsyslog racing at midnight; one makes maillog.0.bz2 from the just-rolled maillog.0, the other finds maillog.0 has disappeared before getting to run bzip2 on it? So, two files per day, and the above message? > On my other FreeBSD server the same cronjob goes ok... Check /etc/crontab and /etc/newsyslog.conf on both, and make sure you're not also trying to run a user crontab for root, apart from /etc/crontab? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 16:28:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C40106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5A48FC16 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4RGSSRf049168; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4RGSSSr049165; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: kde-list freebsd , ajtiM , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:28:29 -0000 There can be a tremendous investment of time in using software, whether "free" or not. Money too, often. Those who work to write, port, and support free software also spend a tremendous amount of time in doing that. Money too, often. So both parties have a large investment, and it's easy but counterproductive to get emotional about it. Take a deep breath, be polite, and try to appreciate the other guy's problems. Otherwise it just ends up creating more problems, and there are already enough. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 17:11:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230C1106566B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 17:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA348FC08 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 17:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so5552089obc.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IGX031uWXQXnNP/POOCOGyB1IS1PBWr37/jlBXrwuH8=; b=vgMyw4OxEPtLzdCeM23quTo4ejwde+JbTBsm9GFzmqSN2C4cdrwVmuUHkJfvh0/BAP 6Q0XGr6tNPZAt0ejwFLc7/b4JyyfpU19EEljieqw+auOSKFPZb+m/YqI+bdmVJdvUG9Y N6QdPEj7YVf+eeovE8sv1dGW3KwWbW1Z+oUwlX6ZwaH8cYP/kKUSz+KPqtJ62xKOAqwj Jgi5JdNDsuFCCGgqS19QgY2V7YwqaifuFNu0S3KoP+fXp9rVKyZdbA0z0rrQKBq7x63V CumR5jbh06MDmEiG9YcNXguiMt0NAoODJmUUuhrRu86SmfQyr6qFt5Xnn0ITJ4PyqsPc DC5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.208.105 with SMTP id md9mr824579igc.12.1338138658843; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:10:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FC23230.2050903@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:10:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: xfce4.10, terminal command not working, no icons on panel(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 17:11:00 -0000 On one of my machines, While running # portmaster -tf xfce-4.10 >> I get a major error and everything comes to a screeching halt :( I get a bad gid on my own username and last line I see is pwd_mkdb: /mnt/etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format How can I get around this? Googling I find: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-November/208310.html but the advice there does not help :( I wonder what has happened and how I can fix it, if there is something to try out? Thanks && Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 17:47:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD971065675; Sun, 27 May 2012 17:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5A78FC18; Sun, 27 May 2012 17:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so3303751dad.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:47:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vVECnd+RVWDyB356byWilXzoDasV7rjkd98gu4r9OE0=; b=MtOgTCbweOqx233zJAoZGD+1hS+cVpE48MgPBhpfazemZiEVVJqqYO0is53sDroJXY 4DPrqdYa4tWoclx3TtW8nC5wBYcOz5cIWzsdreACJoW+4EQIRShHgmXrlSDPHBYt157N PZyguqZpRUYUxerbcgM9kA5Qgfx1KUOPiHib/iBmTRQrnCpxcXVeuI+Dq6//zLQTXS6k oXgspXTf+1fxFKlXw1seBiLAA6M9SAEjODMNTtwTIuUFQhl9DOWCAlsLp7DzyuEenBug WprZb+ghDgLSw1TuZBwtMQr5YSk9CUVHUITesaGHeDcZ3k8qKI2qBIDPkIUAP7Un5cs2 8VqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.116.203 with SMTP id jy11mr18488867pbb.129.1338140839257; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.203.2 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 10:47:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120504200307.GA30426@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120504200307.GA30426@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:47:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ySQrm2q7CBfIXHBjy26qbAGNkYM Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: help debug bwn(4) wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 17:47:19 -0000 Hi, Please email freebsd-wireless@ with wireless related questions. Try "wlandebug -i wlan0 +crypto" and see if you get encryption errors. Unfortunately there's currently no broadcom NIC maintainer, so things are falling behind. adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 18:02:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C034106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 18:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CC88FC0A for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 18:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so1125899ghb.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DLfxVeQKGhyvr0WsLiyVwQDtB0uYLVLThOjMrEeUN7I=; b=k+c2LHlrvN+Z8XK+nepfkz6n3UpvqAG6e5U/U0DaH9tPFXLOIaHRMlPr+AjIM3M3MS mCOlbiCK+4xGa0E/rcfqhWRwjVUf2oRQ4hQlwGy5UQOFes04iqfru7FswKx950Wl+0MZ 6RQtZl4iNPbqLu1D4sMPZm8H9nQQPEnYP1lbXDGweoXkhr9fadx+w90UyuHP+L3dxXSC EQj1I9pcADT6fBdAotCI3rCX7+GixyLQ6eyaPUTM/Emcb1FdD9ouMJF7w7ZXXSOTV4O6 KlwJPQhfJu393C8dO1DU+0VeE4pQf+ItanRmvv0FKwG7/r//ef3e/pi/i7+nKonHZW4O HT2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.175.10 with SMTP id ay10mr940790icb.14.1338141729345; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FC23230.2050903@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:02:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: xfce4.10, terminal command not working, no icons on panel(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:02:15 -0000 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On one of my machines, > While running > # =A0portmaster -tf xfce-4.10 >>> > > I get a major error and everything comes to a screeching halt :( > > I get a bad gid on my own username and last line I see is > > pwd_mkdb: /mnt/etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format > > How can I get around this? > Googling I find: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-November/208310= .html > > but the advice there does not help :( > > I wonder what has happened and how I can fix it, if there is something > to try out? > > Thanks && Best Regards, > > > Antonio Error message is as follows: Creating user `messagebus' with uid `556' pwd_mkdb: olivaresgidis incorrect pwd_mkdb: at line #25 pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format pw: passwd file update: No such file or directory *** Error code 74 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus. =3D=3D=3D>>> Installation of dbus-1.4.12_2 (devel/dbus) failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update Advice/Comments/Suggestions on this particular machine. The others are churning and no failures almost complete. Thanks && Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 20:02:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7B106566C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961218FC0C for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4RK28kn094844 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q4RK288o094841 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 27 May 2012 16:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:02:16 -0000 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: > There can be a tremendous investment of time in using software, whether > "free" or not. Money too, often. > > Those who work to write, port, and support free software also spend a > tremendous amount of time in doing that. Money too, often. > > So both parties have a large investment, and it's easy but counterproductive > to get emotional about it. Take a deep breath, be polite, and try to > appreciate the other guy's problems. Otherwise it just ends up creating more > problems, and there are already enough. Warren makes a great point. In years past Greg Lehey used to post, "How to ask a question", or something similar. Its worth resurrecting that. As I recall, the major points were: Nobody here is getting paid to do this; there are a great number of people with a wealth of information willing to help; and, its up to the one asking the question to do it in such a way as to peak someones interest. >From an earlier post: On 05/26/2012 05:40 PM, Franci Nabalanci wrote: > I did use portmaster for KDE 4.8 update and it stopped: > > The devel/kdebindings4-python port has been deleted: kdebindings ports have > been refactored. > > Update aborted. > > And I don't know how to save a problem. If it is repeatable, re-do the operation with: script error.log I use [and love] FreeBSD as a workstation because: I get better performance with hardware that I would otherwise throw away. I am sure of this because no charity will take anything I am "done" with. I assume all on this list use FreeBSD for similar or their own reasons. Hence the 'captain obvious statement', the FreeBSD sucks threads tend to degrade in direct proportion to their length. When things go wrong with upgrading a workstation port tree they can [often??] go really badly. A couple of tools and/or techniques can help: pkg_cleanup, pkg_tree, the pkg port to revert a port to a previous level. Check out anything named pkg_ in the port collection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 20:18:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29BF106566B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975B38FC12 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so3377781dad.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:18:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=s6ahQccijhDCtYLcYs2pAj6B86gAZsZ/+vxQqmN/rVQ=; b=oJiSeOay6fbj8l1bMmFF14bllF8N+OmxTbx3t5wU4uR+1OtcMatTcFFU4wrIeN4iTQ bmnBSs7sFaDU7lAHdvG2X5Kac76xqOyt2V9QpCrkp8ubvUnThmmCIeO8zTwzFdpobM6M ocC4FzaEqUyQovK18zdu3rC9JtmstLpau++JPlqUm/RjHxVUi4/5XU7qTgYRjeoTVGvs /JkU4t22YRIyqZvxKUWmd5Sn3g3W5+3nhZwdPCk9koR2QD72+D7GvnJZlhoEIjdSVBVD jLz0jSaeLDrDPACwTtzLW7YT24MPjeB9O6vPEUTwt+ND5lFw6WZ9OdvVuzK4Fh3crrf1 yo/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.232.129 with SMTP id to1mr20235021pbc.27.1338149890923; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.162.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 13:18:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC16477.8090802@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC1370E.8090302@dreamchaser.org> <4FC16477.8090802@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:18:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ports] why no libXXX after make install of libXXX? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:11 -0000 On 26 May 2012 19:17, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 05/26/12 14:03, Gary Aitken wrote: >> I'm trying to install audacious, which depends on libmowgli. >> The port fails to build because of a missing library. >> Shouldn't the build of a library result in the library being placed in /usr/local/lib? > > I notice that /var/db/pkg/libmowgli-1.0.0/+CONTENTS > and similar files for a few other packages > shows files which don't exist: > > @comment PKG_FORMAT_REVISION:1.1 > @name libmowgli-1.0.0 > @comment ORIGIN:devel/libmowgli > @cwd /usr/local > ... > lib/libmowgli.so > lib/libmowgli.so.2 > lib/libmowgli.so.2.0.0 > > I think this is a screwed up situation; > there are no libmowgli files in /usr/local/lib > > What's the best way to recover from it if so? > Well, running it here installs the expected files: ~> ls -l /local/lib | grep mowg lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 May 27 16:11 libmowgli.so -> libmowgli.so.2.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 May 27 16:11 libmowgli.so.2 -> libmowgli.so.2.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 84442 May 27 16:11 libmowgli.so.2.0.0 I would try running "make deinstall reinstall" from the port directory & working from there. Later: I deinstalled it, & the next time I ran "make install" from the port directory it claimed to install libmowgli, but installed nothing. "make deinstall reinstall" however worked. I have no idea why it did this. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 20:30:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12AB1065672 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE418FC1D for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF8BC.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.248.188]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4RKUOeR045456; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:30:25 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4RKUBFd018482; Sun, 27 May 2012 22:30:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4RKTwL4087755; Sun, 27 May 2012 22:30:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201205272030.q4RKTwL4087755@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Frank Bonnet From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 25 May 2012 17:12:58 +0200." <4FBFA17A.7010906@esiee.fr> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 22:29:58 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:30:40 -0000 > Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access > and share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories ) NFS + AMD > The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible. Aim for device drivers & servers that can interact as client & server pairs over tcp/ip, Examples: /usr/ports/graphics/xsane http://www.xsane.org/ /usr/ports/sysutils/nut http://www.networkupstools.org/ X windows split screens & client proceses. & try to avoid neeeding to have to run specific programs only on the host connected to the device. > Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...) Non native English is not the cause of misunderstanding :-) Misunderstanding comes from expecting technolgists to derive much if anything from the Marketer/ Salesman / Manager promoted phrase "Cloud Computing", which I've found so far carries nothing new, for those who've already been working in distributed Unix environments. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 22:19:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9563106566B for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 22:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C0B8FC0A for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 22:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4RMIvwf030928 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:18:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC2A851.8060305@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:18:57 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120524 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 27 May 2012 16:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [ports] Need help for port which claims to install but doesn't; package installs ok X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 22:19:05 -0000 First, my apologies for previous posts which hijacked an existing thread. I thought changing the subject line was ok and had forgotten about in-reply-to. So my apologies for a repost; I've gotten no replies and am not sure others actually saw / processed it or just ignored because of the bad etiquette. As my mother told me, I'll never get to eat with the Queen. Trying to be a good citizen, not always succeeding... I'm having trouble installing some ports, notably devel/libmowgli multimedia/libdvdcss Running on a 4 processor amd64 with 16GB "make -v install" claims to install, but none of the files which should have been installed are actually there. I've done: portsnap fetch portsnap update pkgdb -F portupgrade -irRv libmowgli ** None has been installed or upgraded. cd devel/libmowgli make distclean make clean make -v install At this point /usr/local/include/libmowgli should exist and contain a bunch of .h files; but the dir doesn't even exist /usr/local/lib should contain a number of libmowgli.* files; but there are none Deinstalling shows the above headers and libs are not there as expected: pkg_deinstall -v libmowgli-1.0.0 ---> Deinstalling 'libmowgli-1.0.0' Change working directory to /usr/local Delete file /usr/local/include/libmowgli/mowgli.h pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/libmowgli/mowgli.h' doesn't exist ... Delete file /usr/local/lib/libmowgli.so pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/lib/libmowgli.so' doesn't exist ... Delete directory /usr/local/include/libmowgli pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/libmowgli' doesn't exist pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/include/libmowgli' Execute '/sbin/ldconfig -R' pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package `libmowgli-1.0.0' (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 571 packages found (-1 +0) (...) done] ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) + libmowgli-1.0.0 ---> Packages processed: 1 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed Assuming everything is clean at this point, doing: make distclean make clean make -v install still ends up with empty directories. Portions of the output from "make -v install" which fails: ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE => libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch http://distfiles.atheme.org/libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2 libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2 100% of 103 kB 129 kBps ===> Extracting for libmowgli-1.0.0 => SHA256 Checksum OK for libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for libmowgli-1.0.0 ===> libmowgli-1.0.0 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> Configuring for libmowgli-1.0.0 ... ===> Building for libmowgli-1.0.0 ... ===> Installing for libmowgli-1.0.0 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if devel/libmowgli already installed ... ===> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib ===> Registering installation for libmowgli-1.0.0 Downloading the tarball and using pkg_add works, at least for libmowgli. However, there is no package for libdvdcss for amd64 at ftp.freebsd.org, so I need this to work. Any hints on what might be wrong, or how to get some expanded output from the port install process, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 23:48:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A041065674 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 23:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80168FC17 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 23:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so3475832dad.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u4Qlxp2IYCJYGrK7WEwHcbkq55H6RcIPePSUmlnGJik=; b=UX0gkiSiNqysz4sNXxouT5SFvLbzxXOQGj5Swf5X3jwUIIijTAl8vz+ESI1pTpg/Zp 64YtlkBSTJAGgafTwyzRCf4aTQO4Ee4r0r6RkqxstSWRc60ZYh0B7DbqD7zjhmAlgX4e 3ELnBCDhFFi9vWRzyuqSr3MY1UnElFNWr46xx3jSK6jnIUg8ACs+5iYqjUOZqJPMYUPX +38sEtwCzFqDOKbIlv5X2zPyU9+qdSRvXbLnnK7GdegGnzQh9sDyBl8rJoqfBCZ1ay15 2MRGS6a8g/Rl5gFfpfsnDG+09Jl4CxagDHkCb8n+vMhoqYqEZx1iAxUr4lepSuq5BPnu 2Xeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.217.100 with SMTP id ox4mr20618600pbc.87.1338162518576; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.162.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 16:48:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FBFAEFE.6040700@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FBBF32D.9070505@dreamchaser.org> <20120522234510.a406941d.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FBD7BA0.7070502@dreamchaser.org> <4FBEE05A.6000909@dreamchaser.org> <20120525035108.a3af81c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FBF1EF2.5020400@dreamchaser.org> <4FBFAEFE.6040700@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 19:48:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade ... doesn't X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:48:40 -0000 On 25 May 2012 12:10, Gary Aitken wrote: > Has to be something stupid: > > 347 /usr/ports#pkg_version -v | grep updating > p5-XML-Twig-3.39 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0< =A0 needs updat= ing (port has 3.40) > > 348 /usr/ports#portupgrade -Rv P5-XML-Twig > ---> =A0Session started at: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:03:54 -0600 > [Exclude up-to-date packages =A0done] > ** None has been installed or upgraded. > ---> =A0Session ended at: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:03:54 -0600 (consumed 00:00= :00) > > 350 /usr/ports#pkg_info | grep p5-XML-Twig > p5-XML-Twig-3.39 =A0 =A0Process huge XML documents by chunks via a tree > interface > > hints? Do pkg_version -vl"<" & pkg_version -vIl"<" give different results? (note that's an uppercase "i" followed by a lowercase "L" in case your screen font makes it hard to tell) I believe portupgrade uses the INDEX-* files to determine, whereas pkg_version uses the /usr/ports/*/*/distinfo file (unless -I is provided). --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 01:41:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD95106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 01:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE078FC0C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 01:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so2150034wer.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vVaMn8Lu0YqKSkfo44wYPqIG2/1d1acLRBeUjCoz1C4=; b=yf2E3mydlqHn9BGUPShvgVsv4ojiCrALBVzmB9fokWfqq0Z4qBbinlqncrdw/sDIbx DlF0cX1WPXLi/p5zU90IC5TQ3S8y4OqiO/S6OZ9K8XHOBgd7+PVRRM3hMXoBHtZ9rHqR /iWAM0kelu+nHmoaPce6jf9sJ1ypjXENCww2D996CkbtMRfuebYPebc2JT3GGBeYMufI uXKLdLDYYNOyJnJwiTrqTz/WexEnaE0ch1h3Tv0Yiz2yGWO1OqXkOdpxp7uL8dj4vd+X 7Mlge7W268f4U+aEXk+mhmldD4fdBw4vzumwuCDMbdftayr58Q31eg7hDLeCbdkpBvhA db1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.103.42 with SMTP id ft10mr11706824wib.18.1338169264622; Sun, 27 May 2012 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:41:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 01:41:06 -0000 Hi, I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i rebuilt the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and started X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the road and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i can run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) Thanks Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 03:18:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5719C106566C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 03:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48F98FC15 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 03:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so6323424obc.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sfQSurT3/7aTFzsKQ8jC+bioHmsAeN5QO9nhzNIpv1g=; b=nFhO4QVL2O0rHjLaB5kJofy8ZOXYCaorT5tCPdf11DaKDiPBystPN0PvXkB/zxmCht TpItrl0ONy2rKhN3/wCt4YL9VhvEekML3iLUqKKGILvMGbMNQYyF4hkGYMjdcxY7qiQM C73BQ8Mk7RZd1m72id1QZMlBwJPl/Ol4xa71/RlDQs04k0kkXEo3sEr2t1oJlO3u0ZOR PXFmm6V5/j13VcA39817d0sK+SzYEaFVl3av2e40Bvn14+SVZTc7V5XoRjrs5TbT+z2K a5JApZO7Qj7TUiXTXKbJg57ChIVroyWD0DgTiUvzPt1wP3jSL9SpNWCAwiNyTQ3fU/vC q0Mw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.100.129 with SMTP id ey1mr3076695igb.35.1338175124937; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 22:18:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: reset xfce settings to originals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 03:18:46 -0000 Dear folks, on two of three machines I have successfully updated and removed the packages that I should have removed and rebuilt xfce 4.10 on FreeBSD. However, the bottom panel shows no icons. The top panel the logout button shows no icon either. Several entries show no icons as well. How can I reset Xfce like if it was new to pristine/default settings? In old times I would probably remove in user/home directory the .xfce4 directory or similar. Advice/comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 03:20:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482E11065670 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 03:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A6C8FC21 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 03:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so1934872ggn.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:20:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gATM2BH+SPdfAnXXF+JHXiQ+s/12TA2eZ58eECLwass=; b=GCBmn5tPgSR1vBZZzPuvD+HAYAQ3q94SJ8bA/qsr0KyhnRbFL1fIKniONeSpXYgKda A4S4Y+IG9M9TSE8mEGWl0kjruKEEWdgJpKbcJHfMwaj/cEdLJvknHMtPegTq0eLsgryT L856RN8AiTtY4asDxZUBSQlYxVGf+UJY/UItQ200QNNa0UstgfdrisQJo6zlMLgARzCs OG0bwBwdhFRRyFd2eQ6hJmaaFRqSu4A3TnHqRtZkiTUsLs4Ek4ctIX/3Fd6NvNHbPaQT qg0l4Cevh4s9XOM/raFwWOhN8awk4fdOvdhDXVEhgYAuJyEdUz5iWzDfHP2EhqjMiJoe 7NBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.58.73 with SMTP id wj9mr3393768icb.17.1338175243140; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 20:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 22:20:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 03:20:44 -0000 Dear folks, I forgot to ask in same thread. Apologize in advance :( The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in 4.8.3 XFCE. Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore these? or do I have to figure out another way to fix this? 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Apologize in advance :( > The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in > 4.8.3 XFCE. Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore > these? or do I have to figure out another way to fix this? Depends. If you remove the user's ~/-xfce4 setting directory, they should go back to the defaults. But what are the defaults? Maybe those are already too small. As Xfce 4 is a Gtk+ application, you can try a general override of fonts with a ~/.gtkrc-2.0, containing gtk-font-name="Tahoma 12" as an example to override. You can also change your display's DPI (depending on if you're using a CRT or LCD) in X's configuration file. I'd say the best way is to load Xfce 4 with its defaults, then alter them using its configuration tools, which will result in a "different" user configuration in the ~/.xfce4 directory. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 04:33:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF4A106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 04:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2015A8FC17 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 04:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so6418681obc.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 21:33:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6WVnIwvJJqR0iEMU2Xu/b/NtD2lCJW/FCIH1ebnO/ps=; b=PNblCDj28XHPj9fC2jigzsovVh4eM1IH8u9DN/rorg/5X019YXKpQmNWhvktV6hmLw 9zyRmiS5SU2DbiUGMplLf1962Q34JQ9ULaUWptFEex50Ia0woAs542+EcajkcWr0zaBQ 2KkbCxu5iTlFNeKJM/e+yJGeqiDTgN+F4vPpGHHhE1n1+755ltBepFnAhTbOyKULSUyW mhrDCqoU+e0+vkx7xBDYfyM8VHwRoQ6bkZmjL29JICwa+urM6mMAhiHFNb/slMpsD9dw Q+SzDLBn2IY+YcEPsmw2FaqxgabEalPnqx9oHS6nsV9VV6MpvtWILEk7xWRLGVYRBgNr t5Aw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.179.103 with SMTP id df7mr3472135igc.35.1338179604979; Sun, 27 May 2012 21:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 21:33:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 04:33:54 -0000 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:20:43 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Dear folks, >> >> I forgot to ask in same thread. =A0Apologize in advance :( >> The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in >> 4.8.3 XFCE. =A0Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore >> these? =A0or do I have to figure out another way to fix this? > > Depends. If you remove the user's ~/-xfce4 setting directory, > they should go back to the defaults. But what are the defaults? > Maybe those are already too small. > > As Xfce 4 is a Gtk+ application, you can try a general override > of fonts with a ~/.gtkrc-2.0, containing > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gtk-font-name=3D"Tahoma 12" > > as an example to override. You can also change your display's > DPI (depending on if you're using a CRT or LCD) in X's configuration > file. > > I'd say the best way is to load Xfce 4 with its defaults, then > alter them using its configuration tools, which will result in > a "different" user configuration in the ~/.xfce4 directory. > > > > -- I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked it. Then I see the pristine settings. They are almost the same with the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before but was moved. The fonts are the same :(, tiny. If I change the size it is not noticed. The bottom panel has no icons except for two folders on both ends and the application finder. I guess I will have to change that behavior manually. I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't appear to be in a folder. Thanks for helping out. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 04:53:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2020B1065672 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 04:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC3E8FC0C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 04:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so1394446yen.13 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 21:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VW3Dtu4w78P9j53sxAZBUUCZ3EdlbI3rcB6Ul/3zwe0=; b=paSAP3afcL4Ck2lYyHc/3t2BGLSeT0nmd1iICZcvXj98NTObFEO1bxg484qVag3bWu TgiTtsYgLFh+rYizPtfNhhhjh4h33MHVRkbUH9NwNqVOIgA7Qfe0P2EQsQn17C0QadCc 51x7H1zhcn31sueLJZ6lncYTQ7iZ063w1L+yTWqRFNKqAWs/o2VAZDlNAntgCxIHJ3oH BRZ0tXjrjwA+X3gBBi7dKpiUVWmRSStVKIbMIEWp3F+dAZItG+gZsykaLTpXGm/o2GQl FXxBRyRj+EKBFFg0kzEe2G7yDKXFJxA9Ql8bDnH2ESeqseb1gPbleeqVZc6fAlb/8eQB zw4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.208.105 with SMTP id md9mr1541259igc.12.1338180783901; Sun, 27 May 2012 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:53:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 04:53:05 -0000 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:20:43 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >>> Dear folks, >>> >>> I forgot to ask in same thread. =A0Apologize in advance :( >>> The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in >>> 4.8.3 XFCE. =A0Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore >>> these? =A0or do I have to figure out another way to fix this? >> >> Depends. If you remove the user's ~/-xfce4 setting directory, >> they should go back to the defaults. But what are the defaults? >> Maybe those are already too small. >> >> As Xfce 4 is a Gtk+ application, you can try a general override >> of fonts with a ~/.gtkrc-2.0, containing >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gtk-font-name=3D"Tahoma 12" >> >> as an example to override. You can also change your display's >> DPI (depending on if you're using a CRT or LCD) in X's configuration >> file. >> >> I'd say the best way is to load Xfce 4 with its defaults, then >> alter them using its configuration tools, which will result in >> a "different" user configuration in the ~/.xfce4 directory. >> >> >> >> -- > > I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked > it. =A0Then I see the pristine settings. =A0They are almost the same with > the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before > but was moved. =A0The fonts are the same :(, tiny. =A0If I change the siz= e > it is not noticed. =A0The bottom panel has no icons except for two > folders on both ends and the application finder. =A0I guess I will have > to change that behavior manually. > > I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't > appear to be in a folder. > > Thanks for helping out. > > Regards, > > > Antonio I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue. The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size. Now everything seems to be normal :) I vistited the online tour http://www.xfce.org/about/tour Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though. Thanks Polytropon for your valuable help and suggestions. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 05:37:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD696106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 05:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895378FC0A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 05:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567DA2BAB7; Mon, 28 May 2012 07:37:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4S5bgvD002254; Mon, 28 May 2012 07:37:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 07:37:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20120528073742.098bb621.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 05:37:44 -0000 On Sun, 27 May 2012 23:53:03 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue. > > The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size. Now everything > seems to be normal :) > > I vistited the online tour > > http://www.xfce.org/about/tour > > Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on > DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though. > > Thanks Polytropon for your valuable help and suggestions. I actually had a similar problem with the fonts in many Gtk and Gtk+ applications, so I changed the DPI value for the whole X system by defining Option "DPI" "96 x 96" in Section "Device" for your graphics card. You can also let X determine the DPI value automatically by entering DisplaySize 410 305 in Section "Monitor" for your monitor; units are in mm. To try which resolution fits best, you can use the followng commands: % xinit -- -dpi 72 % xinit -- -dpi 75 % xinit -- -dpi 96 % xinit -- -dpi 100 % xinit -- -dpi 115 If you're using a LCD panel, it should be obvious and match the real hardware parameters. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:30:18 -0000 Does anyone know if the irc/inspircd port for FreeBSD works? I have tried it on an FBSD 9 server, as well as an older version of the FreeBSD with the same results. If I try and run make the build the port, I get the following error: # make ===> Building for inspircd-2.0.5 make: cannot open BSDmakefile. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. # I figure maybe someone has gotten this to build, so figured I would toss it out here as using my googlefu I found years ago someone posting the same problem, but never found any resolution. Any ideas, as I would like to check out this software... --- Howard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 08:46:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ECB106566B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A2C8FC1B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F314127789; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:46:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4S8k227003532; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:46:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:46:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Howard Leadmon" Message-Id: <20120528104602.c47c69af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> References: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:46:06 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 04:30:14 -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote: > > Does anyone know if the irc/inspircd port for FreeBSD works? I have > tried it on an FBSD 9 server, as well as an older version of the FreeBSD > with the same results. > > If I try and run make the build the port, I get the following error: > > > # make > ===> Building for inspircd-2.0.5 > make: cannot open BSDmakefile. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. > # > > > I figure maybe someone has gotten this to build, so figured I would toss it > out here as using my googlefu I found years ago someone posting the same > problem, but never found any resolution. Just tried "very carefully", all steps seem to work fine (OS 8.2-STABLE/x86 of August 2011 here, ports tree not fully up to date, so port version is just 2.0.2): # make config # make fetch # make extract # make I interrupted the "make" stage as everything seemed to compile normally. As I said, the installation here is already a bit old, but I hesitate to update anything because, you know, never touch a running system. :-) Make sure your ports tree is okay. The file mentioned in the error message should be extracted intowork/: /usr/ports/irc/inspircd/work/InspIRCd-2.0.2/BSDmakefile. Do a "make clean" before you try again. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 10:08:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0F1106566C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@frank.uvena.de) Received: from uvena.de (unknown [IPv6:2001:4d88:1ffc:463::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714168FC08 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frank.uvena.de (146-52-109-166-dynip.superkabel.de [146.52.109.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uvena.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EC81254016 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alpha.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.uvena.de (Postfix) with SMTP id B38F51FD30 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:08:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:08:38 +0200 From: Frank Lanitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120528120838.9ab69662a912f539718a2812@frank.uvena.de> In-Reply-To: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> References: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta7 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Editor: Geany, Emacs X-OS: Debian GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: fralan@jabber.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__28_May_2012_12_08_38_+0200_W698cUJIguh_Y3w7" Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:08:18 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__28_May_2012_12_08_38_+0200_W698cUJIguh_Y3w7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:11:21 +0200 Frank Bonnet wrote: > More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors > a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate their personnal data > from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... > ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones and tablets ... etc ) Unless you are telling us what in detail you like to offer to you people, a ssh-account at a server will allow all this.=20 Cheers,=20 Frank --=20 Frank Lanitz --Signature=_Mon__28_May_2012_12_08_38_+0200_W698cUJIguh_Y3w7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPw06mAAoJEMTGKa65g3T9qb8QAIZ70WocCMqyTu7WczIqO6Ei YIhmxMhyzKAWXyuPqjJ4l6v4jbpVgvR4QZxaI1+cxbIumPBd+Ijv83A7l833nG2T LOwANYQF1TwbaKe87sl35vhPkFbgXY4HChMhLmt//DjlBMHgyB21NHVoQrwxglsq ykuZlKwqlMVx0hsk+F59TBwlDEaohlu380pl8EyocNpsGdrFPa3xBtUonZoly3Oc 9TD7TkvAZ8aWlTUnzJA6OQyOLU9lB8G+snL2s/+nJjDpfza5d3/Z5oE1//A+9mXg T8eKA4pudXkqekz9+XrLHP4lab80QEUpT4ST1fji+FzLYKCOf1l6nulRO7y8RGJT iXDutdZxSSOy3lrouLwHJG1ND5rGFhyvR51L239EmiJnb/gM6jXaIsy41P/QwA7D +fKCgmfZNqJVG86rn/acMcFjrFzubXemMGWnvOqoZKa6inxKvQmID99UEARf2Qgc 8powiNMUHZtUUuhFPs/gnpbtT3J4Qmuasr6/X0YZDrggsK2XgXx/QHbJiDgG7dsB Mx9wfmfhCt3gz9PVUR15ykAyXNfZ2CWLnqSdV5vOj+rWhtJsDbKz+YXqwzxM9IBU 3MO3aeAjUogLM5DaSlEEmnt+6F5Ag+qAf8HjuN3h0NIVLsfHLcrmIUDD5R+NPd9M nVK1bbZQNobaHj4AUyFz =Hghy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__28_May_2012_12_08_38_+0200_W698cUJIguh_Y3w7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 10:51:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94FB106566C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFE38FC0C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q4SApCXn097685; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:51:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FC35852.5000804@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:54 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <4FC1370E.8090302@dreamchaser.org> <4FC16477.8090802@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC16477.8090802@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ports] why no libXXX after make install of libXXX? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:51:26 -0000 2012-05-27 01:17, Gary Aitken skrev: > On 05/26/12 14:03, Gary Aitken wrote: >> I'm trying to install audacious, which depends on libmowgli. >> The port fails to build because of a missing library. >> Shouldn't the build of a library result in the library being placed in /usr/local/lib? > > I notice that /var/db/pkg/libmowgli-1.0.0/+CONTENTS > and similar files for a few other packages > shows files which don't exist: > > @comment PKG_FORMAT_REVISION:1.1 > @name libmowgli-1.0.0 > @comment ORIGIN:devel/libmowgli > @cwd /usr/local > ... lib/libmowgli.so It's a link. lib/libmowgli.so.2 So is this one. lib/libmowgli.so.2.0.0 Links to this file. I had no problems building devel/libmowgli lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 28 Maj 12:38 libmowgli.so -> libmowgli.so.2.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 28 Maj 12:38 libmowgli.so.2 -> libmowgli.so.2.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 88546 28 Maj 12:38 libmowgli.so.2.0.0 > I think this is a screwed up situation; > there are no libmowgli files in /usr/local/lib > > What's the best way to recover from it if so? Try pkg_add -r libmowgli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 11:49:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2BB106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32598FC0C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SYySF-0002cW-RB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:43 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SYySF-0000rw-NS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:43 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4SBnhJS030726 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4SBnhFE030725 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:43 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120528114943.GA30701@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: sendmail, masquerading, exposed root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:49:45 -0000 I've a problem with sendmail setup, for which I have no satisfactory solution. I've several hosts, all on the university network. I'd like to forward all root's mail from all these hosts to my personal email. The problem seems to be with the From field. If I leave the root exposed, the From field looks e.g. root@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk, which is rejected by the university mailer, because it has no knowledge of this address. The only solution I've found is not to expose root, and then masquerade all From to @bris.ac.uk, which is acceptable, but then I get root mail from all my hosts always originating at root@bris.ac.uk, so I have trouble distinguishing between individual hosts. I solve this by setting the hostname in the subject like. But I'm mostly worried about not exposing root. Plus the network people hate to see root@bris.ac.uk anywhere on the network. Can anybody suggest a better solution? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 12:41:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5704A1065767 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howard@leadmon.net) Received: from mail.leadmon.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:550:102:ff::b02]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB798FC0C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from HDLDESKTOP (hdl-desktop.leadmon.net [IPv6:2001:550:102:301::3]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.leadmon.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/LNSG+SCOP+PSBL+LUBL+NJABL+SBL+DSBL+CBL+RHSBL) with ESMTP id q4SCfltB084419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 28 May 2012 08:41:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from howard@leadmon.net) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mail.leadmon.net q4SCfltB084419 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=leadmon.net; s=default; t=1338208908; bh=ElIpR3cUEwfJwEz+KhLDCimcNqU1qxvGaj0Lk4jjkxk=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=Yp0++wK4DapvHMVfz7qS/VD12XtgGMzQiZ/DsPMSj9FX5OSW7rNDa3a7S89TgDJY9 oWlUj6kK2KWTCumCiVcwyplhE2vQisZqO6ixNdoVySGF63bS9qexvBYiKEJyt/Vy3I 80cc5kKy8SGCM7WNVF+bVMcyjbKsa4pujzRP4d7M= From: "Howard Leadmon" To: "'Polytropon'" References: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> <20120528104602.c47c69af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120528104602.c47c69af.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:41:44 -0400 Message-ID: <00ec01cd3ccf$3f719e80$be54db80$@leadmon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGjghThdGu18CVJXMJBZTXEZ9QeDgLMYMD4lxw1zBA= Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at vorlon.leadmon.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:41:51 -0000 I just took a look and granted I was on version 2.0.5 (I am also on amd64, so not x86) and there is no /usr/ports/irc/inspircd/work/InspIRCd-2.0.2/BSDmakefile present at that path. So I then went to the inspircd.org site and downloaded both the 2.0.5 and 2.0.2 archives, and again I see no BSDmakefile. Is there some command that is called, or something performed that creates this BSDmakefile?? If so, maybe on amd64 this isn't working. --- Howard > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:46 AM > To: Howard Leadmon > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues? > > On Mon, 28 May 2012 04:30:14 -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if the irc/inspircd port for FreeBSD works? I have > > tried it on an FBSD 9 server, as well as an older version of the FreeBSD > > with the same results. > > > > If I try and run make the build the port, I get the following error: > > > > > > # make > > ===> Building for inspircd-2.0.5 > > make: cannot open BSDmakefile. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. > > # > > > > > > > > I figure maybe someone has gotten this to build, so figured I would toss it > > out here as using my googlefu I found years ago someone posting the > same > > problem, but never found any resolution. > > Just tried "very carefully", all steps seem to work fine > (OS 8.2-STABLE/x86 of August 2011 here, ports tree not > fully up to date, so port version is just 2.0.2): > > # make config > # make fetch > # make extract > # make > > I interrupted the "make" stage as everything seemed to > compile normally. As I said, the installation here is > already a bit old, but I hesitate to update anything > because, you know, never touch a running system. :-) > > Make sure your ports tree is okay. The file mentioned > in the error message should be extracted intowork/: > /usr/ports/irc/inspircd/work/InspIRCd-2.0.2/BSDmakefile. > > Do a "make clean" before you try again. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 12:25:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48207106566B; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE758FC15; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:25:49 +0200 From: vermaden To: Polytropon , marius@alchemy.franken.de, Don Lewis , Robert Huff X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: <20120524011023.6f5401c6.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120524011023.6f5401c6.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1338207949; bh=dMgMi50/LJEoe/yTTCk2OnJOTF8OnOkf310RL/PaZBU=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:References: Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DUWpndtHG6vam/C3AGL0DeXUOSTHNh/TzgJ+6bULCjJnVz4BKHYr6HSJ/FZmOEUcN dkCd/09+1IjCo0c04ZzIRLLechs68iqPGSDu3WEN6+I24aEUnR1jiz5G3C7k1gXLB1 YYJBY+jsxioTxgZ7SY9FBK425WfHCPKV/DCCi8dU= X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:36:16 +0000 Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Working and Supported SCSI Controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:25:56 -0000 > I haven't looked into that topic for a long time, but in > the past, I've had _no_ problems using Ataptec's 2940 > type of controllers (either W or U, and UW). The ahc > driver worked well with them. >=20 > Polytropon > LSI 53C1010-66 (Ultra160, sym(4)) or 53C1030 (Ultra320, mpt(4)) based one= s. >=20 > Marius > I'm using an Adaptec 29160N (Ultra 160) with the ahc driver. It has > internal and external 69 pin LVD connectors, a 68 pin internal > single-ended connector and a 50 pin internal single-ended connector. >=20 > Don Lewis > > I haven't looked into that topic for a long time, but in > > the past, I've had _no_ problems using Ataptec's 2940 > > type of controllers (either W or U, and UW). The ahc > > driver worked well with them. > Agreed. Adaptec has the reputation of being expensive but=20 > robust and well-supported; my experience confirms all three. >=20 > Robert Huff Thank You gentleman, gonna try 'Ataptec AHA-2940UW' this time and share the results. Regards, vermaden ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 13:44:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB336106566C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 13:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D0F8FC0A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 13:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so1436104ghb.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 06:44:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gVJQhVg1Z6tV84/0uAvVKT/uRGE6HPe+PjimZz5tIHg=; b=c341BroLYdEArVg6lk/Ux/0C1jzFuFCMef5pVMLTaWg1THHP8C93nd6nZAKDfNznhG YIrxQj451Bg304Qt3f9bAMuqzlNVVI+AIA6iWi3b5SnTG+xUZVibh4BCuk9XBwSC/3ve 0bc6s7aS9E8pr0uvlGXu9fbeqgZuglHnMTRjM0SrDZkp150LL6iiJ6I+/8QvDt/IhMle arxPeQ8gwHEvzB9pDXcMUEUNO3jslmKi/GIYkU3/QxI4A9XAXwkqVsWb5QsdZ+dXIu6J zAZFg8UgBdLRT66BDBl+2xFcD2SFndeRuPeNR5IUuG6HhSc500HyfVsD+L+EvYUvkIKj yMkA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.179.103 with SMTP id df7mr4488699igc.35.1338212686794; Mon, 28 May 2012 06:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 06:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:44:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:44:48 -0000 Dear folks, Two of three machines updated to xfce4.10 successfully. Now only one refuses to work. I encounter the error above. I have tried numerous approaches already, but none have seemed to work. Error message is as follows: ================================================ Creating user `messagebus' with uid `556' pwd_mkdb: olivares gid is incorrect pwd_mkdb: at line #25 pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format pw: passwd file update: No such file or directory *** Error code 74 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus. ===>>> Installation of dbus-1.4.12_2 (devel/dbus) failed ===>>> Aborting update ================================================ I have looked into http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-22791.html http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/How-can-I-rescue-my-passwd-file-after-corrupting-it-and-why-does-it-still-work-td3778319.html I have copied the file master.passwd.bak from /var/backups/ into /etc/ and it still does not work. I cannot get around this error. I cleaned up the stuff that I did not remove, now I have no working desktop. Is there a way to fix it via livecd/livedvd, or can I copy it from another machine and resync it? Or do I just flat install FreeBSD again and be done with it? Advice/Comments/Suggestions are appreciated and hopefully I can get back this machine one way or another. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 14:11:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A32C1065673 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.troublesome.heads@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39488FC17 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so2622928laa.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 07:11:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vhc5iIsg0Zk+Iterre1r/PFVBfpiWM/EcZKvkdIrczI=; b=gtjSZDo5yiZObNQmrdWmWlc25/HW9fZVND9AMAKgl2v+VVmhuDmOeuZkabz0qbrieF 6m/S/Pk+Pf65yVzluVX97EB5ODsgUlvcF+2TfdqbvLcSVnbMmsSl0ztn9yw1GbxUzkE2 psd7JQOnI9PXhaZdrrv0kglD9dC16VIK6+5N7r8nQ+d7kZbj6zgSsKR8ARBG2p96VEpk DcU19mkmLViqFyyyli32SW/KSs6py0/fXmGaQaioDOuVEb8Zo0Zy/GOH0vZe8euC8dm3 xJkRXOyzx/ta+Qz2vvjv5tL1UeiVei+FHfuH3qfcrZKfbZtly/E5YBq45qx9iD2n8GPR OxvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.45.193 with SMTP id p1mr1985764lbm.39.1338214286479; Mon, 28 May 2012 07:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.22.68 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 07:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:11:26 +0900 Message-ID: From: fake fake To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: library search path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:11:28 -0000 To install tmux under $HOME/bin, I have installed libevent library under $HOME/lib (I do not have root privilege). Then set the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $HOME/lib in .cshrc. But "./configure --prefix=$HOME" in src/tmux returns "configure: error: "libevent not found"". What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 14:49:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246B5106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15B58FC08 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4SEnIF1054699; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4SEnIKH054696; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:49:22 -0000 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue. > > The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size. Now everything > seems to be normal :) When Settings/Appearance/Custom DPI is unchecked, it should get the actual monitor DPI value from X, which in turn gets it from the monitor via DDC. Some monitors fail at this, but most work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:00:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF231065673 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E598FC08 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so2011322yhg.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1WQ2WHBOW+4MGZp/gGHiIHb6gbD7BQCR1upQiItjgmo=; b=gf5ihiKaesYcUlE2o+qDcqu0IyLxLjhEZqJTTQHi56nZGXAgofVAYfuBoiNpb6Ad6Z dDnyjVNAt26ZzAPdPVrE+0FeZ8YSOndwh6gB4u7stPxrlMQlkdSQEt2QDkn0fvZkeeIO DLC56EkpmHTpU9jjk1O66Jk73rfjyozVnGxj+OV5v5KUJ43LtHhuGBrlMZG4e9IYw5PZ gSzekmQ3IeTJTWOHf3wi0spBhMvZEANlp8hRPAakD0tT2r5hlCkcAI8e8luhaV5T7VK6 Cl2rlA3TPJeT6wglBMMbbXUSkC4AJs9pxusCajzkzmw43JrGxC5SkaWpv0j9coOIayES pF/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.71 with SMTP id nq7mr4735255igc.12.1338217203388; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:00:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:00:05 -0000 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2012, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue. >> >> The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size. =A0Now everything >> seems to be normal :) > > > When Settings/Appearance/Custom DPI is unchecked, it should get the actua= l > monitor DPI value from X, which in turn gets it from the monitor via DDC. > =A0Some monitors fail at this, but most work. This is exactly what I did :) Although I did not state it correctly :( Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:01:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761E41065673 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marceloc@espoltel.net) Received: from killerspam.espoltel.net (killerspam.espoltel.net [200.49.242.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341B48FC12 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jupiter.espoltel.net (jupiter.espoltel.net [200.49.240.7]) by killerspam.espoltel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829F202B76; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.espoltel.net [127.0.0.1]) by jupiter.espoltel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4926D2DA8B5; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:10:21 -0500 (ECT) Received: from jupiter.espoltel.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiter.espoltel.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 2j5Hw2GzkuaM; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:10:06 -0500 (ECT) Received: from [172.26.5.15] (unknown [200.49.242.10]) by jupiter.espoltel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A14B2DA49D; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:10:06 -0500 (ECT) Message-ID: <1338216681.3410.5.camel@Hefesto> From: Marcelo Celleri To: Derek Ragona Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:51:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20120525184026.05eb8440@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> <1337940633.42636.5.camel@btw.pki2.com> <4FBF69B4.7010805@esiee.fr> <6.0.0.22.2.20120525184026.05eb8440@mail.computinginnovations.com> Organization: ESPOLTEL S.A. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Frank Bonnet , Dennis Glatting , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: marceloc@espoltel.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:01:52 -0000 Hi, You could try sprakleshare, it's something like dropbox in your own server. Marcelo. El vie, 25-05-2012 a las 18:41 -0500, Derek Ragona escribi=C3=B3: > At 06:15 AM 5/25/2012, Frank Bonnet wrote: > >On 05/25/2012 12:10 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > >>On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:11 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > >>>Hello > >>> > >>>I'm searching for a "cloud software" :-) > >>> > >>>More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors > >>>a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate their personnal data > >>>from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... > >>>( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones and tablets ... etc ) > >>There is a couple of cheap ways of doing this. First, download the fr= ee > >>version of VMWare ESXi and partition your hardware. Another is to > >>install VirtualBox, a Type-2 HyperVisor. > >> > >>Depending on what you consider a cloud, take a look at Hadoop. Hadoop > >>isn't partitioning hardware but Hadoop and the applications that run = on > >>top of Hadoop can give you an interesting view of these technologies = and > >>how they can be applied to cloudy data. > >> > >>As for how to get data into/out-of the cloud, let me know how that > >>works. :) > >> > >> > >> > > > >Hi Dennis > > > >Thank you for that info ! > >gonna investigate the hadoop way. > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > I have built and managed a couple large hadoop clusters. Contact me=20 > directly for more information. >=20 > -Derek >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:04:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587CC106566B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135B78FC12 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4SEgctP054670; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:42:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4SEgc8g054667; Mon, 28 May 2012 08:42:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:42:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Waitman Gobble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 May 2012 08:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:04:37 -0000 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i rebuilt > the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and started > X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the road > and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i can > run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I > try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. > It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... > > Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of > the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. After that, run pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Rebuild anything that says it is missing libxfce4-utils. After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the machine. Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. These last two could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not happen until xfce-4.10. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:41:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF561065673 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:41:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA1A8FC14 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D60E3CE94; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:41:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4SFfX4B001909; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:41:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:41:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Howard Leadmon" Message-Id: <20120528174133.634b702b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <00ec01cd3ccf$3f719e80$be54db80$@leadmon.net> References: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> <20120528104602.c47c69af.freebsd@edvax.de> <00ec01cd3ccf$3f719e80$be54db80$@leadmon.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:41:41 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:41:44 -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote: > I just took a look and granted I was on version 2.0.5 (I am also on amd64, > so not x86) and there is no > /usr/ports/irc/inspircd/work/InspIRCd-2.0.2/BSDmakefile present at that > path. So I then went to the inspircd.org site and downloaded both the > 2.0.5 and 2.0.2 archives, and again I see no BSDmakefile. I don't see any FreeBSD sources on their download page, https://github.com/inspircd/inspircd/downloads. I think it's the usual Linux source packages (haven't looked in detail, I admit). > Is there some command that is called, or something performed that creates > this BSDmakefile?? If so, maybe on amd64 this isn't working. Erm... just to get that right: You are _not_ using the sources obtained via ports collection, instead you try to compile Linux source code? That won't work. FreeBSD != Linux. Linux sources typically don't compile. That's why applications need to be ported, that's what is in the ports collection. You should _never_ need to download stuff from the web. First check your /usr/ports/irc/inspircd/Makefile. It should indicate version 2.0.5. Then do # make clean to make sure there's nothing "unusual" left. Then go step by step. First check if the sources will be obtained correctly: # make fetch Then extract the sources: # make extract The sources will also be checked for a checksum match, this makes sure the obtained sources are good. The file /usr/ports/irc/inspircd/work/InspIRCd-2.0.5/BSDmakefile should now be present. As a next step, set your options: # make config And if this has worked, you can actually start to build from that sources: # make If done, install it: # make install By the way, using a port management tool would have the same effect, it's just more comfortable, but offers less "step by step diagnostics". A command like # portmaster irc/inspircd would install from source. Note that the port management tool would call all the required steps automatically. I suggested the "step by step" method only to see where the problem occurs (because there are more than one point that can go wrong). If everything fails, just try to install from a precompiled binary package: # pkg_add -r inspircd Maybe such a package is present (haven't checked). I hope I didn't misunderstand you, but allow me to repeat: You cannot use Linux sources with the ports collection. The ports collection has automated fetching, extracting, configuring and building mechanisms. You should use them. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:46:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC5F1065690 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FF78FC14 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DF93CE9A; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4SFkk4F001938; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:46:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:46:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20120528174646.dc37d926.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:46:47 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:44:46 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I have copied the file master.passwd.bak from /var/backups/ into /etc/ > and it still does not work. I cannot get around this error. You have to make sure /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd have the same content (just that they differ in passwords and in file permissions). The database files /etc/(s)pwd.db will be created from those files by the pwd_mkdb command. This of course requires root access (which I assume you have made sure). > Is there a way to fix it via livecd/livedvd, or can I copy it from > another machine and resync it? You can use the files (_both_ files!) from before starting the dbus installation. Regenerate the databases with the pwd_mkdb command. > Or do I just flat install FreeBSD again and be done with it? That is possible, but should be your last option. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:54:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688D51065670 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D338FC0C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2E63CEC5; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4SFsjL1001976; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:54:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:54:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: fake fake Message-Id: <20120528175445.bd882aa1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: library search path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:54:47 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:11:26 +0900, fake fake wrote: > To install tmux under $HOME/bin, I have installed libevent library > under $HOME/lib (I do not have root privilege). > Then set the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $HOME/lib in .cshrc. > But "./configure --prefix=$HOME" in src/tmux returns "configure: > error: "libevent not found"". > What am I doing wrong? Note that you need to _add_ $HOME/lib to $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (and check that it's expanded correctly). Do you have access to the ports tree (reading)? Then you could simply redefine $WRKDIRPREFIX to where you can compile, and $PREFIX to where you can install to. See "man 7 ports" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 15:57:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0DF1065673 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@martinlaabs.de) Received: from relay02.alfahosting-server.de (relay02.alfahosting-server.de [80.86.191.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168168FC23 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by relay02.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4AB4232C0007; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:57:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de [109.237.140.30]) by relay02.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD14F32C0044; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc.martinlaabs.de (p54B355F7.dip.t-dialin.net [84.179.85.247]) by alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D7A8515D56F; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC3A05A.5040800@martinlaabs.de> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:57:14 +0200 From: Martin Laabs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fake fake References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: No X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.4 with ClamAV 0.97.3/14972/Mon May 28 14:33:49 2012 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: library search path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:57:34 -0000 Hello, just a guess: On 28.05.2012 16:11, fake fake wrote: > To install tmux under $HOME/bin, I have installed libevent library > under $HOME/lib (I do not have root privilege). > Then set the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $HOME/lib in .cshrc. LD_LIBRARY_PATH only affects the dynamic linker and its search path when executing a program. You will need this when you execude tmux afterwards. > But "./configure --prefix=$HOME" in src/tmux returns "configure: With --prefix=... you tell the configure script where you wanna install the files. Now you have to tell the gcc where to search for the library/includes. So try to set CFLAGS="-I $HOME/include -L $HOME/lib" Best regards, Martin Laabs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 16:06:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B87106567B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEF28FC21 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:06:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=+Kk88GOrOu3vSwNAaWU0kKgcN/4p/L1SLky8g2QvMFM=; b=Us5IbhvF325uZn5H9DHW3/yPSJ85Vp+mrG7+2UW+SzQ5eLA7Xsnhkn/p8jJSbAUf4v54hq309bobpC7ily2Li3BoKh9sk2k2ec4CYj3BS6VN4LQSP8G2TtN12sybAh8E; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ2T6-0005KK-8U for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:06:55 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338221205-3288-3287/5/35; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:06:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: questions@freebsd.org References: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:06:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:06:56 -0000 I'm currently the maintainer and it works on the machines I run it on. I also pushed it through redports to prove it can compile on 7.4, 8.x, 9, CLANG, etc. It looks like BSDMakefile is generated during the build process. I'm guessing something on your system is screwed up if it can't generate it. Things to try: -delete /usr/src -delete /var/db/sub/ports-all -re-fetch ports via csup -install sysutils/bsdadminscripts, run pkg_libchk and fix any issues there -try building again -perhaps its an issue with your shell? have any strange aliases or configuration? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 16:08:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8728D1065676 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4702B8FC1C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4853B3C995; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:08:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4SG8BHB002049; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:08:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:08:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20120528180811.03ce6351.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120528114943.GA30701@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120528114943.GA30701@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail, masquerading, exposed root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:08:13 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 12:49:43 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > If I leave the root exposed, the From > field looks e.g. root@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk, > which is rejected by the university mailer, > because it has no knowledge of this address. You should be able to use sendmail's masquerading features. For example to be configured in the correct .mc file: FEATURE(always_add_domain) FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') FEATURE(`allmasquerade') MASQUERADE_AS(`bris.ac.uk') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`bris.ac.uk.') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(localhost) MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(localhost.localdomain) That should turn root@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk into root@bris.ac.uk if that's okay for you. If you change root's name field in the passwd database (use chsh), you could add a specific machine name so you'll easily see from which root account you're receiving messages, e. g. From: mech-anton240.men root To: You Subject: mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk security run output ... and so on ... That's no big problem as you're not going to reply to that address. (If you had to, setting Reply-To: would surely help.) Or you could use /etc/mail/aliases to redirect root to a different mail address. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 16:51:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986E61065703 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519238FC14 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so2100958yhg.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:51:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nq1kEVhTSk5Jf6XAdKBSJGR0Jp5LWn6v7Px8m+I0gHU=; b=eBvZRD1WuoPdHMZlusrknWNaSFEPc5LWVBDct0xu281wFHc5oyhFcmswHc4H4/Z9mZ Ci59v6PXOGMOVrfoeQzEBK660AhTjc0/MxveiOiDR/ZLca7SoUjTQYzXB1P4kft4xGFh Elv+HrMujzu3tMAIFnraxLGvQN2Lk8awuharGvH4/0ZofIsTLoBP/Zx4bYVjqGMAelwC eaariBc4sO3kCd9XzTJvF06gjH0lIcoHT7lhX3UBVXVYBoyo1figxl2DlkSNwNVUry5L MgIEoppms2rlyBt9RYmSAIVeaZYH7HXhruIwyQbECB22a7/xcWJFcUNF7Wk8jzaVWk5X 1syQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.71 with SMTP id nq7mr4948582igc.12.1338223883206; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:51:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120528174646.dc37d926.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120528174646.dc37d926.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:51:24 -0000 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:44:46 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> I have copied the file master.passwd.bak from /var/backups/ into /etc/ >> and it still does not work. =A0I cannot get around this error. > > You have to make sure /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd have > the same content (just that they differ in passwords and in > file permissions). The database files /etc/(s)pwd.db will be > created from those files by the pwd_mkdb command. This of > course requires root access (which I assume you have made > sure). > >> Is there a way to fix it via livecd/livedvd, or can I copy it from >> another machine and resync it? > > You can use the files (_both_ files!) from before starting > the dbus installation. Regenerate the databases with the > pwd_mkdb command. > >> Or do I just flat install FreeBSD again and be done with it? > > That is possible, but should be your last option. > > -- I have run the command as root user # pwd_mkdb -d /etc/master.passwd but it fails with a pam_auth() or I can't remember exact error message, I will need to run command and post the exact error message here :( Either do this, or install a desktop which does not depend on devel/dbus package(s). Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 16:57:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF8D1065672 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098578FC12 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95323CDA7; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:57:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4SGv4Di002684; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:57:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:57:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20120528185704.402a5c97.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20120528174646.dc37d926.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:57:06 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:51:23 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I have run the command as root user > # pwd_mkdb -d /etc/master.passwd Looks wrong; the parameter -d is "-d directory", explained as "Store databases into specified destination directory instead of /etc." The coorect command should be # pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd See "man pwd_mkdb" for details. > but it fails with a pam_auth() or I can't remember exact error > message, I will need to run command and post the exact error message > here :( Some file access error would be possible. > Either do this, or install a desktop which does not depend on > devel/dbus package(s). The dbus port is often used to "enhance functionality", but it's not entirely required to run KDE, Gnome or Xfce (to name the "big three"). Just make sure X is compiled without it. Maybe some functionality might be missing, but if you don't depend on it... as for just automount, FreeBSD has a native solution that worked even before HAL and DBUS. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 17:25:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BF5106566B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A380F8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so3118494wgb.31 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XtH7x+APltQj0Rwwr2uK7VKm94KPJwuobmkXSVWuE08=; b=zZw0lPficpcSUK2RArShtk/ltozULQ7MlNlMTJ/vH66qNUGAMwhV6qE3LqQaJybQEE Gvo93LSEFVcNR5/2cwIJpIKbrliUwaXXCvTdkaPqy7gzkIcJG+5dISUNAUqN9i/VdvjR ZX+udlSAHPD0gW9HuwAyNjyubFlDm3R+1Fe5xsw9a32pkqSwiCz3KrZuLTdKOoO4pOzZ Pgj3WC8WqC6Ks6OFGzk4WKCHZvBxWqCAEiCu5JKNRVvFUSMBsgLz9xYLXos6JUrdiSIs iCk5tn+R7uTvPzcEiA/91HiJ/bMqIDJ4x+7/zT0AdRBaWui3GHj7rbgXGnRCcGCASmzY LYcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.157 with SMTP id p29mr5019945wej.65.1338225917547; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:25:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:25:19 -0000 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > Hi, >> >> I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i >> rebuilt >> the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and started >> X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the road >> and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i can >> run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I >> try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. >> It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... >> >> Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of >> the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) >> > > First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. After that, run > pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Rebuild anything that says it is > missing libxfce4-utils. > > After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's a > long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). > Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the > machine. Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. These last two > could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not > happen until xfce-4.10. > thanks. i'll check it out.. Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 18:57:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB651065672 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619148FC0A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so2740493wer.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:57:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=8jXCAeCp7ZE/qwGnnVESpWp8shxrcCiZkhOiIub3GeQ=; b=SCNQdKGQYJARnJji2w4yLqaFgctc2ux00GKdYE3D/kyKGXHfErQ38bwjJdAAnbZfTO QaL2tAyA891Ell1uquaGZoofDzwSN38TsGzGd117CNJpLE2yGgJsbEVguFwMD8mSV9jh l2MwrmplkMOXLmfJrFdRU0jKOK8GQTiidpPTA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=8jXCAeCp7ZE/qwGnnVESpWp8shxrcCiZkhOiIub3GeQ=; b=nlizAKqzppTXEHIwWnKZgC5Xqx06TbWLjWaEe/AlTfXN90c5FvLUcbgp5sF1TAfcjQ ya/4bAQhLy1b93aFyHRM3TMRbsJPdlQ2v3DBdK0yRAI43zQIz2seawn54QbKMchs3cdx 1njIXLSwSo+lOF4g1ZL0UVqq7UGS1y3hvmrTDPOMrCwh/ST2yPethUF1QDpmDxZ1447e DlqEduKlhFywaOTbmbr2DNRJRGaVDF6Bp+1rF8KI75xzQPA38hFrdEWGdqQeYLwviDg4 HjcSdh5ZL78bPAg1ocfL+9/F17xOGAXgOBbXfD3Jlke84P/viwxhPh+nRQfbR8zKEqnl 6pmQ== Received: by 10.216.131.150 with SMTP id m22mr4979270wei.111.1338231446071; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:57:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.85.202 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120528175445.bd882aa1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120528175445.bd882aa1.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQks0oA/TG5dI1biKs+sfEIejAWnWuSBHtpNiLPIMqOq+4wyUaxElXlTt9LhSWKiiGmHY+Iv Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fake fake Subject: Re: library search path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:57:28 -0000 On 28 May 2012 08:54, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:11:26 +0900, fake fake wrote: >> To install tmux under $HOME/bin, I have installed libevent library >> under $HOME/lib (I do not have root privilege). >> Then set the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $HOME/lib in .cshrc. >> But "./configure --prefix=$HOME" in src/tmux returns "configure: >> error: "libevent not found"". >> What am I doing wrong? > > Note that you need to _add_ $HOME/lib to $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > (and check that it's expanded correctly). > > Do you have access to the ports tree (reading)? Then you > could simply redefine $WRKDIRPREFIX to where you can > compile, and $PREFIX to where you can install to. See > "man 7 ports" for details. You can also try -DINSTALL_AS_USER though it may not work as advertised. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 19:05:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AA3106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E19B8FC0A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (freshstart.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4SJ5OFM034828; Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC3CC89.1000504@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:45 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FBBF32D.9070505@dreamchaser.org> <20120522234510.a406941d.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FBD7BA0.7070502@dreamchaser.org> <4FBEE05A.6000909@dreamchaser.org> <20120525035108.a3af81c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FBFAB5B.6010405@dreamchaser.org> <4FBFCC61.2010504@dreamchaser.org> <4FBFE5E2.6070305@dreamchaser.org> <20120525222123.474401eb.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FBFF3F2.60501@dreamchaser.org> <20120526000123.cf1a67f8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120526000123.cf1a67f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:05:33 -0000 On 5/25/2012 4:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:04:50 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 05/25/12 14:21, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:04:50 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >>>> something I'm not seeing >>>> >>>> I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up. >>>> What's the key to removing /var/empty? >>>> >>>> 280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel >>>> kern.securelevel: -1 >>>> 281 /hd1/var#ls -l >>>> total 4 >>>> dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jan 3 00:55 empty >>>> 282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty >>>> 283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty >>>> chmod: empty: Operation not permitted >>>> 284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty >>>> rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted >>> >>> Interesting, I just tried this on my home system (FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE) >>> and it worked as intended. I did use the exact commands, >>> same securelevel. >>> >>> Use the -o option for ls (ls -lo) to check on the effect >>> of chflags and chmod. >> >> Just found it, something I forgot about a long time ago... >> I was running under su logged in as my normal user. >> Had to back all the way out and log in as root. > > I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test > logging in as root (real console login). If you use "su -" > or "su root", the effect should be the same. You can always > check the success of your operation with the "ls -lo" command. Nope. That was the problem. I had logged in on the vty as normal user and done su root. Had to back all the way out and log in on the vty as root to make it work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 19:13:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50AD106566B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779888FC0A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691A9FAA2D08; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:13:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29C92CEC2C; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:13:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:13:21 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Tim Dunphy Message-ID: <20120528211321.129c543d@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: pam_start(): system error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:13:23 -0000 Le Fri, 25 May 2012 22:36:01 -0400, Tim Dunphy a écrit : Hello, > My freebsd 8.2 box has a new, interesting error. When I go to change > any user password I see the message passwd: pam_start(): system error > as in : > > [root@LBSD2:/etc/pam.d] #passwd > Changing local password for root > passwd: pam_start(): system error > > passwd is able to see it's libraries: you can try to reinstall the world and merge the pam configuration (/etc/pam.d). You can check the pam modules (.so) also (in /usr/lib/pam_*.so) Good luck, regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 19:42:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85984106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07078FC08 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8E714E951C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:42:40 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 hp9.esiee.fr AD8E714E951C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=esiee.fr; s=MAILOUT; t=1338234160; bh=Mn8K/Zo04xgtMNyqgemjf3IlKyuFuHvZFhWDxQVRJHQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=BygutKMI13c6+tJYpcOHkDa7TgMfp9GszDWkNdvz6Gfid+ltYi40z7M4zetruAu6j MFAoNqth6mgABVNq9QKKhn/4BxuMz4KGV4VoDcikVt9s+kzfEo7BxqMr6zIECVons1 BQ7nFhGrP36SXwoUZ9J3AlLHEfHHTeYvgsi0GAII= Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 934DD3C3CBB for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:42:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6503C3CB8 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:42:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.24] (chs77-1-82-238-8-126.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.8.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by smtps.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B6EEA7D422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:42:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC3D52F.1020904@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:42:39 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> <1337940633.42636.5.camel@btw.pki2.com> <4FBF69B4.7010805@esiee.fr> <6.0.0.22.2.20120525184026.05eb8440@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1338216681.3410.5.camel@Hefesto> In-Reply-To: <1338216681.3410.5.camel@Hefesto> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:42:42 -0000 Thanks Marcelo seems useful for me let's try tomorrow Le 28/05/2012 16:51, Marcelo Celleri a =C3=A9crit : > Hi, > > You could try sprakleshare, it's something like dropbox in your own > server. > > > Marcelo. > > > El vie, 25-05-2012 a las 18:41 -0500, Derek Ragona escribi=C3=B3: >> At 06:15 AM 5/25/2012, Frank Bonnet wrote: >>> On 05/25/2012 12:10 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote: >>>> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:11 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: >>>>> Hello >>>>> >>>>> I'm searching for a "cloud software" :-) >>>>> >>>>> More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professor= s >>>>> a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate their personnal data >>>> >from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... >>>>> ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones and tablets ... etc ) >>>> There is a couple of cheap ways of doing this. First, download the f= ree >>>> version of VMWare ESXi and partition your hardware. Another is to >>>> install VirtualBox, a Type-2 HyperVisor. >>>> >>>> Depending on what you consider a cloud, take a look at Hadoop. Hadoo= p >>>> isn't partitioning hardware but Hadoop and the applications that run= on >>>> top of Hadoop can give you an interesting view of these technologies= and >>>> how they can be applied to cloudy data. >>>> >>>> As for how to get data into/out-of the cloud, let me know how that >>>> works. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hi Dennis >>> >>> Thank you for that info ! >>> gonna investigate the hadoop way. >>> >> >> >> I have built and managed a couple large hadoop clusters. Contact me >> directly for more information. >> >> -Derek >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 20:34:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02D3106564A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 20:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE468FC18 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 20:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (freshstart.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4SKYPHb035043 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:34:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC3E157.6080606@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:34:31 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 28 May 2012 14:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: mount refused, no journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:34:27 -0000 I mounted a previous system disk, cleaned everything off it using rm, then stuck a bunch of files on it. Used it for a day or so, including at least one shutdown -r then halted the system to swap a CD. Upon reboot, the system refuses to mount the drive: mount -o rw -t ufs /dev/ada0p2 /hd1 Failed to find journal. Use newfs to create one Failed to start journal: 2 mount: /dev/ada0p2 : No such file or directory Doing mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/ada0p2 /hd1 succeeds. tunefs -p /hd1 shows soft updates enabled soft update journaling enabled gjournal disabled tunefs -p / shows the same The error looks like it's expecting gjournal to be enabled, but the tunefs output shows it should not be. Any hints? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 21:06:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF1D1065806 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1427B8FC19 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q4SL8fqJ090973 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:08:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:08:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201205282108.q4SL8fqJ090973@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FC3CC89.1000504@dreamchaser.org> Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:06:45 -0000 h > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 28 14:10:55 2012 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:45 -0600 > From: Gary Aitken > To: Polytropon > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk > > On 5/25/2012 4:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > > I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test > > logging in as root (real console login). If you use "su -" > > or "su root", the effect should be the same. You can always > > check the success of your operation with the "ls -lo" command. > > Nope. That was the problem. I had logged in on the vty as normal user > and done su root. Had to back all the way out and log in on the vty as > root to make it work. I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'. The two commands are *NOT* identical. 'su root' does not run the root 'login' scripts; thus environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.) are *not* set as they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root' tests to fail. OTOH, 'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login in all respects. NOTE; there will be issues if the 'working directory' of a parent process is the directory you are trying to delete. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 21:12:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472231065673 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siefke_listen@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0504C8FC16 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moweb001.kundenserver.de (moweb001.kundenserver.de [172.19.20.114]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684DD1C5006CA for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:12:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from SILVIOSIEFKE.silviosiefke.de ([80.226.24.7]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LjrYH-1S1hMC0arZ-00bpU7; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:12:14 +0200 Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:12:31 +0200 From: Silvio Siefke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120528231231.f5bd6feb.siefke_listen@web.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:IMJq3OAcHY1yzUX3gAXIAUDmMUHIMlLB0NpwP2BiH59 ScXc1E5FHSsVVUNSu1KAxTCGzOw4w/+Wz7JcUhr0fXnMM/ZBQM 0VEc/vyaZv1ur+na7kNCFNqH2PCJP8eAxy3CtTwGvA186SF+1M NrKfVTKgiilnPz1lRZ9gaS0vxcZv9XT0jfy/o87NdN2dnuKnrQ C/iHzwExBSkI2euo2n+HQ== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:23:39 +0000 Subject: Portmaster Fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:12:21 -0000 Hello, is there a chance that portmaster can be only fetch all Source which need update? I mean make fetch-recursiv has helped in the ports collection, when i think right, but can portmaster that with all packages they need update? Thanks for help. Regards Silvio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 22:46:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1593106566C for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 22:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95F88FC15 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 22:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (freshstart.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4SMioL9035404; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:46:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC3FFE9.6020302@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:44:57 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201205282108.q4SL8fqJ090973@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201205282108.q4SL8fqJ090973@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 28 May 2012 16:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:46:10 -0000 On 5/28/2012 3:08 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> On 5/25/2012 4:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>> I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test >>> logging in as root (real console login). If you use "su -" >>> or "su root", the effect should be the same. You can always >>> check the success of your operation with the "ls -lo" command. >> >> Nope. That was the problem. I had logged in on the vty as normal user >> and done su root. Had to back all the way out and log in on the vty as >> root to make it work. > > I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'. The two commands > are *NOT* identical. 'su root' does not run the root 'login' scripts; thus > environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.) are *not* set as > they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root' tests to fail. OTOH, > 'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login in all respects. ahhhhhhh.. Thank you. That explains a number of things. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 23:17:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7C2106566B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF358FC0A for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A1BA7026D for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12650 invoked from network); 28 May 2012 23:17:49 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 24535, pid: 20057, t: 0.1818s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 May 2012 23:17:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4FC4079C.5010106@speakeasy.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:17:48 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: nanoBSD Driver Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:17:56 -0000 I need to build a (for me) complicated driver for nanoBSD running on an Elan SC520, an i386 system. I have nanoBSD running, just need the driver. I mount a disk from an i386 system and can build userland applications OK. I installed usr/share/mk. To build the driver, I need the source tree. How much of that do I need? I have /usr/obj/nanobsd.TS5700/i386.i386/usr/src/sys and its subtree. Is this what I need? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 00:36:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2111065670 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 00:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DB18FC1C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 00:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so2622611ggn.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EgWr2zcmtbS8cfQxdIIJ5E8GJzsWEm0WdIIAi2qpLIQ=; b=czG/LYp3dee0nXJ9041RDPlCM7ncHV3WDdCNqLbVDKGlzslNvBSAJj4Y4txxUgpCGg FhjhSVEiUMFPUbjaC429ZgqgpzttZpwG88c6ah1bu6cqdzVa/3UpopgcmOOGlPuLeqxD 4mjV2Dv+CQvHY46crMDxPBkArS1L+6HTPwoiUH7K3vbmVfxOwA5hkic6TyazO6jWn3gC z3dp017z+r1uR+SU7WJZySc5HYj5I65C4Negw/VYvh2Eer6Gcgt5Ju+6JPIRqiK31UqF saY0lYWYPZkwgIeREIMkrqldECQAdGWnCMMxkvoGd1ILPUaqcBltSZCNrFZg85wVO2Yr LEvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.100.129 with SMTP id ey1mr5198172igb.35.1338251815666; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120528185704.402a5c97.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120528174646.dc37d926.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120528185704.402a5c97.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:36:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropriate file type or format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:36:56 -0000 > > Looks wrong; the parameter -d is "-d directory", explained > as "Store databases into specified destination directory > instead of /etc." > > The coorect command should be > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd > > See "man pwd_mkdb" for details. > >> but it fails with a pam_auth() or I can't remember exact error >> message, I will need to run command and post the exact error message >> here :( > > Some file access error would be possible. > >> Either do this, or install a desktop which does not depend on >> devel/dbus package(s). > > The dbus port is often used to "enhance functionality", but > it's not entirely required to run KDE, Gnome or Xfce (to name > the "big three"). Just make sure X is compiled without it. > Maybe some functionality might be missing, but if you don't > depend on it... as for just automount, FreeBSD has a native > solution that worked even before HAL and DBUS. > > -- Polytropon & all, I have run # vipw /etc/master.passwd and removed the offending line #25. Then I ran the command # pwd_mkdb -d /etc/master.passwd and it succeeded! :) Then I readded the user with adduser command and all is well. I got back my xfce desktop and it is working. Thanks to special folks like you and others who are very helpful. I was getting desperate and was about to throw the towel and reinstall FreeBSD on this machine. I had old backups from last year, but all the new changes would have been a waste to get back from those. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 01:15:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F429106566C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 01:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59E68FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 01:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4T1F5Zk035760 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:15:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC42319.9030901@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:15:05 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC3E157.6080606@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC3E157.6080606@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 28 May 2012 19:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: mount refused, no journal (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 01:15:07 -0000 Not sure why it happened in the first place, but the failure to re-establish the journal using tunefs was a result of "su root" and not "su - root" On 05/28/12 14:34, Gary Aitken wrote: > I mounted a previous system disk, > cleaned everything off it using rm, > then stuck a bunch of files on it. > > Used it for a day or so, > including at least one > shutdown -r > then halted the system to swap a CD. > > Upon reboot, the system refuses to mount the drive: > > mount -o rw -t ufs /dev/ada0p2 /hd1 > Failed to find journal. Use newfs to create one > Failed to start journal: 2 > mount: /dev/ada0p2 : No such file or directory > > Doing > mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/ada0p2 /hd1 > succeeds. > > tunefs -p /hd1 > shows > soft updates enabled > soft update journaling enabled > gjournal disabled > > tunefs -p / > shows the same > > The error looks like it's expecting gjournal to be enabled, > but the tunefs output shows it should not be. > > Any hints? > > Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 01:17:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55A2106566C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 01:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3518FC15 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 01:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4T1Hc7B035767 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC423B2.7020708@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201205282108.q4SL8fqJ090973@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201205282108.q4SL8fqJ090973@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 01:17:39 -0000 On 05/28/12 15:08, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 28 14:10:55 2012 >> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:45 -0600 >> From: Gary Aitken >> To: Polytropon >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk >> >> On 5/25/2012 4:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>> I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test >>> logging in as root (real console login). If you use "su -" >>> or "su root", the effect should be the same. You can always >>> check the success of your operation with the "ls -lo" command. >> >> Nope. That was the problem. I had logged in on the vty as normal user >> and done su root. Had to back all the way out and log in on the vty as >> root to make it work. > > I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'. The two commands > are *NOT* identical. 'su root' does not run the root 'login' scripts; thus > environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.) are *not* set as > they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root' tests to fail. OTOH, > 'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login in all respects. Thank you. That explains a number of problems I've been having. doh. > NOTE; there will be issues if the 'working directory' of a parent process is > the directory you are trying to delete. knew about that part From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 02:55:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536CE1065686 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.troublesome.heads@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97618FC19 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so3020897lbo.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:55:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I4PdCZUjJYxGzhOb/FD1smqccJbUN9Gb6VH+fq389DQ=; b=sAfxMoJxBNiWdw14rvD9McVE6Nl0Xsi3fbItwYqDRAy8XYWtB3CetpZckgWQteHIV8 /SlLuTxCpvlY3+nucR+nQIpoAvQE9SWNjJChZU4t6LXT9AoHBFnkZcPMtIR9OabYXKM+ sYTK92Zhdxptjn3yKYWLFprlDoAb3XlWIIDjDIZE1H1GehgJ8y2aDa20znIQreKw0aSj +q5D78H/QwatvhpZtuIqjk2PcDMG1MyKzb1y5RilIaXy8azF3U3KL53u9O0d3D9uF8ua UV/0gp8P1h7uqys19RO9eqq3PCBdrF0ACAVrgQzz/QxSKMJzEY6a+UNzhIHlv7awsgGG 31mQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.105.235 with SMTP id gp11mr10342495lab.44.1338260127482; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.22.68 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:55:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC3A05A.5040800@martinlaabs.de> References: <4FC3A05A.5040800@martinlaabs.de> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:55:27 +0900 Message-ID: From: fake fake To: Martin Laabs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: library search path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 02:55:29 -0000 Thank you. "./configure --prefix=3D$HOME CFLAGS=3D"-L $HOME/lib" " worked perfectly. further info: I should have set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to absolute path. tmux didn't work with libevent 2.* but did with libevent 1.4.* On 29 May 2012 00:57, Martin Laabs wrote: > Hello, > > just a guess: > > > On 28.05.2012 16:11, fake fake wrote: > >> To install tmux under $HOME/bin, I have installed libevent library >> under $HOME/lib (I do not have root privilege). >> Then set the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $HOME/lib in .cshrc. > > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH only affects the dynamic linker and its search path > when executing a program. You will need this when you execude tmux > afterwards. > > >> But "./configure --prefix=3D$HOME" in src/tmux returns "configure: > > > With --prefix=3D... you tell the configure script where you wanna install= the > files. Now you have to tell the gcc where to search for the > library/includes. So try to set CFLAGS=3D"-I $HOME/include -L $HOME/lib" > > Best regards, > =A0Martin Laabs > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 04:05:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266001065674 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from w3.lemis.com (w3.lemis.com [208.86.224.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE17D8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dereel.lemis.com (1032.x.rootbsd.net [208.86.224.149]) by w3.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2719A3B982; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dereel.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB534DACA3; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:04:59 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:04:59 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: doug@safeport.com Message-ID: <20120529040459.GA81535@dereel.lemis.com> References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5346-1370 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 04:05:09 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, 22 January 2005 at 9:53:53 +0000, doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: > >> There can be a tremendous investment of time in using software, whether >> "free" or not. Money too, often. >> >> Those who work to write, port, and support free software also spend a >> tremendous amount of time in doing that. Money too, often. >> >> So both parties have a large investment, and it's easy but counterproduc= tive >> to get emotional about it. Take a deep breath, be polite, and try to >> appreciate the other guy's problems. Otherwise it just ends up creating= more >> problems, and there are already enough. > > Warren makes a great point. In years past Greg Lehey used to post, > "How to ask a question", or something similar. "How to get best results from FreeBSD questions". > Its worth resurrecting that. It's still there in the FreeBSD web site: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ If people are getting upset, maybe it's worth reading it again. > As I recall, the major points were: Nobody here is getting paid to > do this; there are a great number of people with a wealth of > information willing to help; and, its up to the one asking the > question to do it in such a way as to peak someones interest. Yes, that's a good paraphrase. FWIW I think that Mitja has a point, even if in his frustration he put it badly. It's a pity that nobody here tried to get him to calm down and say what went wrong or enter a PR. While it's true that we're all volunteers, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be proud of our product and want to fix it if things go wrong. Greg --=20 Sent from my desktop computer Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/ESuoACgkQIubykFB6QiOK7wCfTdi2aUYDMB/AaTCzXK3qgsNJ H20AoLKbRm3UMyevlr6VXl5bQI1HHY6G =tmAr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 04:49:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19FD106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED2F8FC08 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA9227B5A; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:41:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4T4fSPv001928; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:41:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 06:41:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Silvio Siefke Message-Id: <20120529064128.16827f79.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120528231231.f5bd6feb.siefke_listen@web.de> References: <20120528231231.f5bd6feb.siefke_listen@web.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster Fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 04:49:10 -0000 On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:12:31 +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > is there a chance that portmaster can be only fetch all Source which need update? > I mean make fetch-recursiv has helped in the ports collection, when i think right, > but can portmaster that with all packages they need update? Is "portmaster -n" (run through all steps, but do not make or install any ports) what you need? Maybe see "man portmaster" for more details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 05:17:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371581065674 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 05:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AF08FC16 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 05:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1793370wib.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 22:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=/HXrHP/jUY2RLgwhTMIxY1Uq48Hwm8eYUFcV2ejoLbM=; b=sVXBaijggLUeERSodTiAPZjq0ZG5vJa364TMtCXg7kEedwDlmQQK15j+AeYlkLIlMZ KMzQeJAastfpAjHGUpzMb6jllH4c4bozDLO9/+K9uP37js98OvOVuOS3nJBEP9UD8db5 ojd9RHn2f1mCQ5UkNq5ZqX5k1ShsBi1m9pAHs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=/HXrHP/jUY2RLgwhTMIxY1Uq48Hwm8eYUFcV2ejoLbM=; b=FVp0BJORpfdYsAem8zde/zqnKc9lou88K1SJa0e+kynYLOhnWd2b+Diz3mGRJ7sI1d c5z5mwMK/Lku5nPZfwDyF6dCet1ZkvNYVCO1n2YwEdEzB0RZYJKuzE4Ve191HUtopo8B KY4eTEvM0YDE6iU07MlPgP+lQTlm5m8/4YIBpx+jYBizegS9IiMht6aCmRhUTlS291jT KPkaENYEuWmmmu0Y2ErRaT/MzXsQFLdsYOnUX2IPyXntHKUPg5KyxwFOZm/MqFTuRv/x EGTGFyDTQuW8L+zNS0G+ShgwiYOcPPPpWot1odmd5pGDv1qHlGL1ay8A47Paesvbg+9N dD7A== Received: by 10.216.195.12 with SMTP id o12mr6779561wen.194.1338268640622; Mon, 28 May 2012 22:17:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.85.202 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 22:16:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120528231231.f5bd6feb.siefke_listen@web.de> References: <20120528231231.f5bd6feb.siefke_listen@web.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:16:50 -0700 Message-ID: To: Silvio Siefke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnr8Ow0rCS3GICgFB8im1u6O8/vBmM4tzulk+u3IB1uLhJNNU0ZLlfOKFHS9v3IlpIcCzof Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster Fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 05:17:22 -0000 On 28 May 2012 14:12, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > is there a chance that portmaster can be only fetch all Source which need update? > I mean make fetch-recursiv has helped in the ports collection, when i think right, > but can portmaster that with all packages they need update? portmaster -F -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 07:01:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686CE1065674 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@martinlaabs.de) Received: from relay04.alfahosting-server.de (relay04.alfahosting-server.de [80.86.191.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2AD8FC24 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by relay04.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5101032C044F; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:49:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de [109.237.140.30]) by relay04.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D431432C0082; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laabs.hf.ifn.et.tu-dresden.de (unknown [141.30.128.185]) by alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8EB7515C86B; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC47186.3030701@martinlaabs.de> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:49:42 +0200 From: Martin Laabs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120206 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC3A05A.5040800@martinlaabs.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: No X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.4 with ClamAV 0.97.3/14973/Mon May 28 21:09:19 2012 Cc: fake fake Subject: Re: library search path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:01:03 -0000 Hello, > On 29 May 2012 00:57, Martin Laabs wrote: [...] > tmux didn't work with libevent 2.* but did with libevent 1.4.* When typing "make config" in the tmux port it presents a checkbutton wether I wanna use libenvet 1.4 or 2. So it seems to work with both versions. Btw. - where do you see advantages of tmux in comparison to screen? Best regards, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 07:27:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84124106567D for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554098FC0C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED8FA70AA5 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 03:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7146 invoked from network); 29 May 2012 07:27:49 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 25905, pid: 23742, t: 0.2389s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 May 2012 07:27:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4FC47A74.4000206@speakeasy.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:27:48 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail6.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: How Do I Remove Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:27:50 -0000 > uname -a FreeBSD P9X79.tddhome 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #2: Fri May 11 20:41:54 PDT 2012 tomdean@P9X79.tddhome:/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I want to remove clang from my system and stick with gcc. I do not want any code I produce to have a non-GPL license. Do I need to regress to 8.3? Or, will that be back-fit with clang also? 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Regards, Susan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 07:49:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12F01065677 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8748FC1E for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4T7nFp4037168 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2012 08:49:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4T7nFp4037168 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4T7nFp4037168; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC47F7B.50806@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:49:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas D. Dean" References: <4FC47A74.4000206@speakeasy.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC47A74.4000206@speakeasy.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5B0F9C61141DB95EC0590B6D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How Do I Remove Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:49:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5B0F9C61141DB95EC0590B6D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/05/2012 08:27, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> uname -a > FreeBSD P9X79.tddhome 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #2: Fri May 11 > 20:41:54 PDT 2012 tomdean@P9X79.tddhome:/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64= Hmmm... normally this sort of question is asked in exactly the opposite sense. I shall trust that it is not asked ironically and answer at face value. > I want to remove clang from my system and stick with gcc. Set WITHOUT_CLANG=3Dyes in /etc/src.conf and do a normal buildworld cycle= plus 'make delete-old' See src.conf(5) for more details. Or just do nothing: gcc is still the default compiler on 9.0, and you need positive action to tweak /etc/make.conf to enable clang. > I do not want any code I produce to have a non-GPL license. That's not actually affected by using clang as your compiler. It's BSD licensed, and doesn't have any "viral" clauses, so your code can be licensed as you see fit. Similarly the runtime bits of the system are BSD licensed and even though they are linked into any executables you produce, you can release the result under whatever terms you see fit other than not claiming authorship / copyright on material you didn't yourself produce. > Do I need to regress to 8.3? Or, will that be back-fit with clang also= ? No. I think you can update to 9.1 without such concerns as well, but 10.x could well be a different matter. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig5B0F9C61141DB95EC0590B6D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/Ef3sACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxGMACdHFMGFUdXuN9r8Um+BdRQ/iMj vWsAnAgJIniBz7ut8LKnR6KfP1TYTmLR =3n4c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5B0F9C61141DB95EC0590B6D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 08:02:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99091065783 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kustaa.Nyholm@planmeca.com) Received: from fsmsg.planmeca.com (fsmsg.planmeca.com [193.94.173.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A198FC16 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from srvfihkiexh01.pmgroup.local ([172.26.0.107]) by fsmsg.planmeca.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4T7gWIx011976 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 10:42:32 +0300 Received: from SRVFIHKIEXB01.pmgroup.local ([172.26.0.201]) by srvfihkiexh01.pmgroup.local ([172.26.0.107]) with mapi; Tue, 29 May 2012 10:42:31 +0300 From: Kustaa Nyholm To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:42:30 +0300 Thread-Topic: tcgetattr() hangs Thread-Index: Ac09bpsSiikKpP7cR5Gu2t4J8eT4MQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 acceptlanguage: en-US, fi-FI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-05-29_03:2012-05-21, 2012-05-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1112030000 definitions=main-1205290011 Subject: tcgetattr() hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:02:51 -0000 Hi, this maybe wrong list but I gotta start somewhere. I'm the developer of PureJavaComm (PJC) , a pure Java serial port access library that runs on Mac OS X, Linux, Windows and soon I hope on FreeBSD. I'm co-operating with someone to port the library to FreeBSD but we have run into mysterious problem that has defeated all our debugging efforts. PJC can be found at: https://github.com/nyholku/purejavacomm Some background. PJC uses JNA which is a library to access C-code APIs from Java by writing Java classes that JNA automatically turns in to standard C calls. The C functions we are using are very simple and few, here is the complete list to put you into the picture (btw, this is Java): int errno(); int fcntl(int fd, int cmd, int arg); int cfgetispeed(Termios termios); int cfgetospeed(Termios termios); int setspeed(int fd, int speed); int cfsetispeed(Termios termios, int speed); int cfsetospeed(Termios termios, int speed) int tcflush(int fd, int b); int tcdrain(int fd); void cfmakeraw(Termios termios); int tcgetattr(int fd, Termios termios); int tcsetattr(int fd, int cmd, Termios termios); int tcsendbreak(int fd, int duration); int open(String s, int t); int close(int fd); int write(int fd, byte[] buffer, int len); int read(int fd, byte[] buffer, int len); int ioctl(int fd, int cmd, int[] data); int select(int n, FDSet read, FDSet write, FDSet error, TimeVal timeout); So far we have been able to run PJC testsuite in FreeBSD 32 bit Intel with no problems.=20 Now however, on FreeBSD 64 bit AMD our test set hangs in a call to tcgetattr() in the third test case in our test suite. The first test opens a port and wiggles some control lines, then closes the port. The second test sends and receives a some hundreds of messages using a background thread and select(). This is the test that is causing problem further down the line. After this test the next test (regardless what it is) hangs in a call to tcgetattr() after successfully opening the port. So how can tcgetattr() hang??? I found one reference to a similar problem but no solution: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Re-cups-bugs-tcgetattr-causes-lockup-i n-USB-backend-on-FreeBSD6-STABLE-td3950285.html Here is a piece of our debug log that shows the calls from Java to the native API showing the end of the successful Test2 and the hang at the beginning of Test3: log: > select(9,[8],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2) .................................. OK average speed log: < select(9,[],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2) =3D> 0 log: > select(9,[8],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2) 18241 b/sec at baud rate 19200 log: > fcntl(8, 3, 0) log: < fcntl(8, 3, 0) =3D> 2 log: > fcntl(8, 4, 6) log: < fcntl(8, 4, 6) =3D> 0 log: > close(8) log: < close(8) =3D> 0 Test3 - transmit all characters log: < select(9,[8],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2) =3D> -1 log: > open('cuau0',00008006) log: < open('cuau0',00008006) =3D> 8 log: > close(8) log: < close(8) =3D> 0 log: > open('cuau0',00008006) log: < open('cuau0',00008006) =3D> 8 log: > fcntl(8, 3, 0) log: < fcntl(8, 3, 0) =3D> 6 log: > fcntl(8, 4, 2) log: < fcntl(8, 4, 2) =3D> 0 log: > tcgetattr(8,jtermios.Termios@5a77a7f9) All comments welcome. be Kusti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 08:14:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5C51065675 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFFD8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 08:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4T8EPb2037671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2012 09:14:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4T8EPb2037671 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4T8EPb2037671; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC48561.9070200@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:14:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kustaa Nyholm References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig48C59C456298D1CF990E0B3C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URI_HEX autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: tcgetattr() hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:14:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig48C59C456298D1CF990E0B3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/05/2012 08:42, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: > this maybe wrong list but I gotta start somewhere. >=20 > I'm the developer of PureJavaComm (PJC) , a pure Java serial port acces= s > library that runs on Mac OS X, Linux, Windows and soon I hope on > FreeBSD. I'm co-operating with someone to port the library to > FreeBSD but we have run into mysterious problem that has defeated > all our debugging efforts. I think the freebsd-java@... list is probably your best choice. -questions tends not to get into the deeply technical nitty-gritty, but it's a good place to ask the meta-question about where to ask the questio= n. > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Re-cups-bugs-tcgetattr-causes-lock= up-i > n-USB-backend-on-FreeBSD6-STABLE-td3950285.html Given that was in FreeBSD-6 and there's been quite a lot of work on the various subsystems involved since, probably not relevant anymore. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig48C59C456298D1CF990E0B3C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/EhWEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwFfACeIYTI5uWKwrjqOsQh7lKQ7VRr thIAnRkFZxphwNrryASdCjvlmP5Qmc+t =slt6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig48C59C456298D1CF990E0B3C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 09:05:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FF8106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ciprian.craciun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793898FC0C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so5290233dad.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:05:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TJdHL9JyRBzF28/bXf/uKSlIRbsR9FZrck2z5UoiUJk=; b=sLZ0uIipU2oY9wajaWme+Pl0DvvabszhnadS8U3WSVLPTrtFTKo2Lhv37EVfB2lOQT mlA2SofaxDYUFBBuufArl0mEwxHmMyKvvBjhznqxPc6evjlYXUZ9A6AkqbHk+XO6bBjv CaaE5YuN3AnkO+E2228o5S1dqjAgaO7/g9JPI2MWWOjvNV4SnXTHyLSKjNZFys+jDRpN 209Fw6/V5ID39GZUEccEWTOSgC4MpFI4nc6g90wsQYevLWzjTUX7FOpMydyCuSAk5s08 35SCeUx9iodncA4JM13Y6GkOzE4ywAOwFqpmgQw+MMzwcPRI9q3QB3bDUiUqLB7dQePw pG/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.238.135 with SMTP id vk7mr11297746pbc.134.1338282301429; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.135.136 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:05:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> References: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:05:01 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ciprian Dorin Craciun To: Frank Bonnet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:05:21 -0000 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > I'm searching for a "cloud software" :-) > > More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors > a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate =C2=A0their personnal data > from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... > ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones =C2=A0 and tablets ... etc ) > > Anyone could help ? > Thank you Although it's not "cloud"-labeled, and: * if you're interested only in data (as in files) management; * and you want to host it your self; , you could take a look over OpenAFS. It's quite nice, works over WAN, supported on most modern OS's, and has strong authentication and authorization. (I don't know about Smartphones, tablets, etc.) Ciprian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 09:59:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF531065672 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@fstaals.net) Received: from isp-bos-02.edutel.nl (isp-bos-02.edutel.nl [88.159.1.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F8D8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (unknown [IPv6:2a01:670:100:11::1:2]) by isp-bos-02.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7862C6306; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A273942CF; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:43:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at isp-aos-02.edutel.intern Received: from isp-aos-02.edutel.intern ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (isp-aos-02.edutel.intern [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z6ycrzOtiDlu; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lacus.fstaals.net (104-208.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl [88.159.208.104]) by isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9D88D394122; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lacus.fstaals.net (unknown [192.168.10.14]) by filter.fstaals.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C67F4FB5; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:42:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dyn-81-32.cs.uu.nl [131.211.81.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: frank) by lacus.fstaals.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97D2E7F4087; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:42:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Frank Staals To: Ciprian Dorin Craciun References: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> User-Mail-Address: frank@fstaals.net Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:42:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Ciprian Dorin Craciun's message of "Tue, 29 May 2012 12:05:01 +0300") Message-ID: <8762bfxqzq.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:59:25 -0000 Ciprian Dorin Craciun writes: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: >> Hello >> >> I'm searching for a "cloud software" :-) >> >> More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors >> a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate =C2=A0their personnal data >> from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... >> ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones =C2=A0 and tablets ... etc ) >> >> Anyone could help ? >> Thank you > > > Although it's not "cloud"-labeled, and: > * if you're interested only in data (as in files) management; > * and you want to host it your self; > , you could take a look over OpenAFS. It's quite nice, works over > WAN, supported on most modern OS's, and has strong authentication and > authorization. (I don't know about Smartphones, tablets, etc.) > > Ciprian. Hmm that sounds interesting. Do you know how persistent the local cache is? If I do something like: open some (large) remote file (hence the large file is transferred to the client), reboot the client, and reopen the large file again. Is the large file then transferred again? (assuming no other clients changed the file in the mean time). The website is not particularly specific about the caching policy. If the file is only transferred once it could be useful to sorta kinda fake something like dropbox.=20 Regards,=20 --=20 - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:10:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFDC106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 10:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720508FC17 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 10:10:19 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QxL/C1rywaJITqvrsg8FuNesn/yGun5w1h3fA8NMSFE= c=1 sm=0 a=hZyLnJ59HU4A:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=DDUjXJYLDbSefGxoYx4A:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:46950] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 59/01-13930-380A4CF4; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:10:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 06:10:11 -0400 Message-ID: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:10:19 -0000 How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other than /usr/src? That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running ndiscvt. Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the heavy work on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports on the USB stick but do the heavy work on the hard drive. I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation, in contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find. I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving up the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after the first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated versions. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:16:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143A8106564A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 10:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ciprian.craciun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5CD8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 10:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so5378718dad.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 03:16:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X6tK24RmicdJHzw0pef/4HEoD0ibiSXrgVRWMG6R+UI=; b=qx5WNv3grdIXE6LsgojUMzf3Y8YPO1v+oB6sKqsYXDTXt8moOy3roj+DzCfAT7Dub/ L1sR2fgbXfbw857PgL54WI/8qKgnD60voX+hbHZLuU5ateh8cmrkQBrkFGAfDEhsq4Zk v5lttfHpHN06Osj7d5FYJrNaf/vFpA8vmDMDaeCiLJsQo5FBVkST0wbIOUxUqkH6DKe3 gwmASWDXA1Kf1H6PAxHNwye1mT4ivjopUHJL5EhAise6U1l7kY4jWqHvCkREA2GnsFWO izW9zJHHGB7rSZatDfiZ8SgwbOyoKvLYKdoVlHY6YVsogNO42PR0G3AOTZmZbwtLgf2+ 8LUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.131.35 with SMTP id oj3mr36207104pbb.156.1338286582107; Tue, 29 May 2012 03:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.135.136 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 03:16:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8762bfxqzq.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> References: <4FBF3EA9.2000103@esiee.fr> <8762bfxqzq.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:16:22 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ciprian Dorin Craciun To: Frank Staals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: "Cloud" software ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:16:23 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Frank Staals wrote: > Ciprian Dorin Craciun writes: > >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote= : >>> Hello >>> >>> I'm searching for a "cloud software" :-) >>> >>> More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors >>> a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate =C2=A0their personnal data >>> from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... >>> ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones =C2=A0 and tablets ... etc ) >>> >>> Anyone could help ? >>> Thank you >> >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Although it's not "cloud"-labeled, and: >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * if you're interested only in data (as in files) manageme= nt; >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * and you want to host it your self; >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 , you could take a look over OpenAFS. It's quite nice, wor= ks over >> WAN, supported on most modern OS's, and has strong authentication and >> authorization. (I don't know about Smartphones, tablets, etc.) >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ciprian. > > Hmm that sounds interesting. Do you know how persistent the local cache > is? If I do something like: open some (large) remote file (hence the > large file is transferred to the client), reboot the client, and reopen > the large file again. Is the large file then transferred again? > (assuming no other clients changed the file in the mean time). The > website is not particularly specific about the caching policy. If the > file is only transferred once it could be useful to sorta kinda fake > something like dropbox. > > Regards, I'm not very OpenAFS knowing, I only use it for myself and my family, but I would guess that a persistent cache would survive a reboot. I've also seen something on their mailing list regarding an "offline" mode (maybe it was called "detached" mode)? I strongly advise you to take it into consideration as it was made for such purposes and has great support for things like quota, multiple file servers, replication, etc. (It is also used by some large financial companies, maybe JP Morgan?, see their "use cases" page, but certainly universities are enlisted there, so is CERN.) Ciprian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 11:25:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB51065672 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ukaszg@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30B18FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so8981860obc.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+b4MrbynYxqI1GmQHG62fW5vYc0wFmpiE9M0GKsmAVM=; b=ltahXQjmN/Pk1pva4mEx1nPrHYGwm8S+jrXSHXDkQLGXStCFa9qKfSLFZo3KRzD4X/ Wwy0DlJF6yMb5LY7dURA8dP6yrMTlJPQpdrv5ZLnrTwIerermv86Huwt+jq5CXF0DqWQ ZmF0pa/Y5418adAdRwxApnV4sue7oqbc1ScPsQgjEX063GUD1W7AUxJe2poydCps7oDF SSs7n8yI6k2agP9MVb+4y9tKaDB1Sirjb1E3ZiomAJkafiXXjkMIRhbUAnPTLEyPbaWP uVKQRvdKdjOv3FsVa9pMh4Cqo7bJxQccqi+C2qprvqJ19M6Mq6xl8ZsufzchdtDNo0yl OqIw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.174.36 with SMTP id bp4mr11013254obc.53.1338290737039; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.117.37 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:25:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> References: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:25:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: uki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:25:38 -0000 Don't know if that will help in Your case, but I just softlink my /usr/local/src-stable to /usr/src - never had any issues. Cheers, =C5=81ukasz Gruner 2012/5/29 Thomas Mueller : > How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other th= an /usr/src? > > That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running n= discvt. > > Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the heavy= work on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports on the = USB stick but do the heavy work on the hard drive. > > I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation, in= contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find. > > I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving u= p the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after = the first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated= versions. > > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 13:04:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1711065670 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E378FC14 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8185A706E3 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17107 invoked from network); 29 May 2012 13:04:51 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 31671, pid: 30387, t: 0.1746s scanners: clamav: m: Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 May 2012 13:04:50 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E3A33C1E; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id DADD639822; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:04:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Thomas Mueller" References: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:04:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> (Thomas Mueller's message of "Tue, 29 May 2012 06:10:11 -0400") Message-ID: <44fwaj3zpw.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:04:52 -0000 "Thomas Mueller" writes: > How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other than /usr/src? I'm not sure I understand quite what you're asking, but I'll have a try anyway. > That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running ndiscvt. For ports, I would would normally say that you want SRC_BASE. However, that's for building ports, not running them, so I may be missing the point. > Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the heavy work on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports on the USB stick but do the heavy work on the hard drive. This is the normal case; you don't want to do anything special about the location of the build, only for the install. For the base system, you just want MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX (normally /usr/obj) to be on the hard drive. For ports, you want MAKEWRKDIRPREFIX to be on the hard drive if set, and the ports tree to be on the hard drive if not. > I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation, in contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find. I don't remember there being one, but I also don't see a comparable use for one. > I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving up the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after the first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated versions. MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX can do this, but in my case I would move the original /usr/obj tree out of the way to avoid damaging it by mistake. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 14:40:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E566106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4CB8FC17 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.239.192] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1SZNag-0003Kr-05; Tue, 29 May 2012 16:40:06 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Thomas Mueller" References: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:40:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <59.01.13930.380A4CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14974/Tue May 29 14:45:27 2012) Cc: Subject: Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? 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Address: Building E, Baoyuan Industrial Zone, Laodong Road, Xixiang, Baoan, Shenzhen, China 518102 Website: www.rycin.net ------=_NextPart_000_02C6_01CD3DF1.97EA74B0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 15:47:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB681065672 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AA38FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6D450967 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 17:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.44] (chimea.webrz.net [10.10.10.44]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CF1425094F for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 17:46:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC4EFA4.4040204@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:47:48 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FBBEC79.1000004@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <4FBBEC79.1000004@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: Subject: Re: Updating /src from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:47:56 -0000 I think I solved it with cvsup, but still no clue why it doesn't work via sysinstall J-( br, Jos Chrispijn Jos Chrispijn: > I want to compile my kernel and I read that for this I need to have > the complete /SRC tree installed. > If I do this via sysinstall, I get either a display that the chosen > server is not available or these are not available for FreeBSD 9. > Is there a way to update /src by CVSUP or otherwise? > > thanks, > Jos Chrispijn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 15:49:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D976106564A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F368FC15 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770DE50960; Tue, 29 May 2012 17:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.44] (chimea.webrz.net [10.10.10.44]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 424D75094F; Tue, 29 May 2012 17:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC4F011.20303@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:49:37 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Ross References: <4FBBEC79.1000004@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating /src from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:49:39 -0000 Hi Michael, that works, thanks. BR, Jos Chrispijn Michael Ross: > Am 22.05.2012, 21:59 Uhr, schrieb Michael Ross : > >> Am 22.05.2012, 21:43 Uhr, schrieb Jos Chrispijn : >> >>> I want to compile my kernel and I read that for this I need to have >>> the complete /SRC tree installed. >>> If I do this via sysinstall, I get either a display that the chosen >>> server is not available or these are not available for FreeBSD 9. >>> Is there a way to update /src by CVSUP or otherwise? >>> >>> thanks, >>> Jos Chrispijn >> >> >> I do it like this: >> >> Copy, read and modify >> /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > > Sorry, that is > > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > > of course. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 15:54:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC94A106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4088FC08 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4TFsSKM061563 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:54:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4TFsSeD061560 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:54:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:54:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 May 2012 09:54:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Subject: Swap files and panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:54:29 -0000 Recently I rearranged partitions on an SSD. The swap partition was eliminated in favor of a swap file on /usr. This works, allows TRIM support on the swap space, and is easier to resize than a partition. However, sometimes the system panics on shutdown. It happens after "syncing disks", so the filesystems are fine, but it's disconcerting. I suspect but haven't yet managed to prove that it's only when swap is not empty. A race condition involving when the filesystems are unmounted? Or should there be some code in /etc/rc.d/addswap to run swapoff before shutdown? This is on a very recent 9-STABLE amd64, i5 2500K. rc.conf: swapfile="/usr/swap/swap" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 16:20:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A655C106564A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08CE98FC16 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 16:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 May 2012 16:20:52 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-239-052.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.239.52] by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 29 May 2012 18:20:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/I/lZZk4HIfp6HU4ySHtwAMLXUcgojC/qZwHjj0e ECt7yiDpli8mTK Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:20:14 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120529182014.6d946d5a.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20120525200144.78239.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20120525193337.181230@gmx.net> <20120525200144.78239.qmail@joyce.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__29_May_2012_18_20_14_+0200_U_Bxz6Kb7Ka_Op+F" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Kernel Panic any help? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:20:54 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__29_May_2012_18_20_14_+0200_U_Bxz6Kb7Ka_Op+F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 25 May 2012 20:01:44 -0000 "John Levine" wrote: JL> >panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch JL>=20 JL> Something's fairly badly screwed up on your disk. My advice would JL> be to boot from a CD or USB key and run fsck to try to repair it. the disk was pretty much f...ed up. I always got an "access denied" on every operation I tried on the device node for the root partition. I had to delete and re-create the partition. Well I took the "oportunity" and upgraded to 9.0. ;-) Thanks for the help, Jens --=20 29. Wonnemond 2012, 18:18 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de Criticism comes easier than craftsmanship. -- Zeuxis --Signature=_Tue__29_May_2012_18_20_14_+0200_U_Bxz6Kb7Ka_Op+F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJPxPdjAAoJED2+SXzzbciGCP4M/3SvU9WbYT2gBSW15WY+em54 6S7CSAnvSpwVSd2wp/Qju3iGhYlNcCPjIGKUIn1TRKvdhzWd4MxZTNSPvgymRGtR oUke5ZNGkvG1TF6UkZ7oRs1QEuldr6fiK+5shaNBRQasRqZ+oY/szxPKt0Mcc9gz R6ekzc6HaG4Ur4Vd5JGvqf1N0EyqO/2luKVhNpeEAWIoUcQsWrpWp54o9FEM1xFS ju5BB0R5fbFBGlrwSNnLy4uYYoVue5iDaNPJ0RjCJELnTnUmtfKi9os1hINJanPY lSeGBEksJs8MHfZvRHnSxGc5NIOTvu1fzfhubPUdpCK/108hIf7f61F84qLi+V92 tq7MpVDbhXVfJ/OGtId+IBOzKj2L8ezMrW7zRh1bLmfj1EPjd5FmLu1ZAAWbzS6s 1NUwptbm8DdRx/nXkhgXaR7t7qFE5FZ+cjNdSj1CqGZaM+zcO6crgbGWwWiox6Zh X9uSmQWZLxEZbCVzMqRY+gk6gIVrJ+zOzd0lWUHFwRbfqhHEqez3lF8WBnN0LeN1 dXIwO5o7xp4DCYAsxJ8i =8f5F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__29_May_2012_18_20_14_+0200_U_Bxz6Kb7Ka_Op+F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:00:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2114106564A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8659B8FC08 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so5986386dad.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t93ImyqigokJBkvR+Zr85Od2ZY6Ze6s1TYhiwc2fleA=; b=qcFhD/Zo7U3tT4itrhcmyi8PRlYsfaZOAWw+Weg8J1AbUzcWyGELzRGz6w9vcdAoEH ixDVzwlU2rg3I6PGQ7ywVqyNb5UDa7Ok8lUBoDdElVP2kzkFQWwWIaGQmA0weiqPW3g6 AL8EtIbaWjEEhyVPxNjE5Fv4ZplWuptVW9pB955WIW/NzwLUuXmXfIh/54C0GPMH8Sci JL5TggR0rXSw2uG2Dv4uXLLJJa7r/UGzjZHo9PkrgffVObNGdMbOeBp4g1409fhrE850 iP/FfAv9o85OsEORN5GC0ARy/4lzogkbnmKfEO/iPiwd9xQ7/R6lcx4QkttFbR9ATFt+ 24Sw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.232.129 with SMTP id to1mr11821046pbc.27.1338314430844; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.162.4 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:00:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> References: <00df01cd3cac$1cb26ff0$56174fd0$@leadmon.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:00:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Howard Leadmon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:00:31 -0000 On 28 May 2012 04:30, Howard Leadmon wrote: > > =A0Does anyone know if the irc/inspircd port for FreeBSD works? =A0 =A0I = have > tried it on an FBSD 9 server, as well as an older version of the FreeBSD > with the same results. > > =A0If I try and run make the build the port, I get the following error: > > > # make > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Building for inspircd-2.0.5 > make: cannot open BSDmakefile. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd. > # > > > I figure maybe someone has gotten this to build, so figured I would toss = it > out here as using my googlefu I found years ago someone posting the same > problem, but never found any resolution. > > =A0Any ideas, as I would like to check out this software... > You probably need to run the configure script: it seems to build just fine here via % tar xf InspIRCd-2.0.5.tar.bz2 % cd inspircd % ./configure % make --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:05:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A83310658F4 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF77D8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q4TI5041029526; Tue, 29 May 2012 20:05:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D7C912343; Tue, 29 May 2012 20:05:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:05:00 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Christer Solskogen Message-ID: <20120529180500.GA92876@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: newfs on a SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:05:38 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:01:33AM +0200, Christer Solskogen wrote: > After years of waiting for a decent price on one of these I finally > got one. The questions is, which options should I use on a SSD that > will be / on my system. I see that newfs supports TRIM, so that will > be turned on, but should I use journaling? gjournal? softupdates? soft > updates journaling? I'm confused :) Enabling TRIM with the '-t' option for newfs sounds like a good idea. Assum= ing the underlaying device supports it. You can check that with the 'camcontrol identify' command, assuming you're using the ada(4) driver. OCZ has a page with tips for Linux. Some would apply to FreeBSD as well; http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?54379-Linux-Tips-twe= aks-and-alignment&highlight=3Dlinux Aligning the partitions with the Erase Block Size is important. See:=20 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives One thing to keep in mind is to mount the filesystems you make on the SSD w= ith the "noatime" option. This to avoid a lot of unnecessary writes. Some of the newfs parameters like blocks per cilinder group don't seem to m= ake much sense for an SSD. Since the controller of the SSD already does all kin= ds of things to emulate a harddisk, I'm not sure if it makes much sense to tune the filesystem's parameters much. As for softupdates (journaled of not): try it and let us know if you see differences, especially in write performance. :-) The FreeBSD foundation has awarded a grant to port a special Flash filesyst= em and tools to FreeBSD: http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-project-nand-flash-suppor= t.html It might be worthwhile to keep that in mind for the future.=20 What I would certainly recommend is that you make a daily automated backup (may I suggest calling rsync from cron at night?) of the SSD's filesystem to an actual HDD, just to be sure. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/FD8wACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX1RQCfS7BBwzUUZSZGKOaJh4BDCEmP nk4AnRm5PpZKxq0a6wAS42osl0Cox7Wx =TWJj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:35:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DA7106566C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FC88FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so3473249ggn.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:35:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=7ChNBO75phQHYJO1YIL/zSOvQvUg4LzbCHaIbBQeg8k=; b=XjNCW6FPTb3JxcCsCuCFbHMMCjqASyCVdybe4G0Gl4ozeYfBeHhLyOU5R1IpSxh2LU JgOGaV9gwbGvQ3T7BhLRKDkrNFiXrQe4sSoPm2jZz+bpw1fbwgT8yLY6syFBzwSeOdTE enZtJZWwPucLysDKtlR6t7kiG3SYg/jo8inFF0VLPy3xDWQa7NODZVVOFP/ztaTLFMZq 56BLM0mw2f4qaHQtU4LY8psR0p5IKgGcDiG/5S47XXbDtqEHSTKK0EabnLQUQ0z3dq2/ JICN4KgDL+ypfGFIzIIkAb67LXOSt9ejuofP//s9wv7YGEEFkHnPDg9DhLH3UfSt0Js9 64Pg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.100 with SMTP id zv4mr8590731igb.4.1338316227618; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.44.74 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:30:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120529180500.GA92876@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120529180500.GA92876@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:30:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1oxccQwCG-j2C6nmszlpXOjg6dw Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: newfs on a SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:35:41 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:01:33AM +0200, Christer Solskogen wrote: > > After years of waiting for a decent price on one of these I finally > > got one. The questions is, which options should I use on a SSD that > > will be / on my system. I see that newfs supports TRIM, so that will > > be turned on, but should I use journaling? gjournal? softupdates? soft > > updates journaling? I'm confused :) > > Enabling TRIM with the '-t' option for newfs sounds like a good idea. > Assuming > the underlaying device supports it. You can check that with the 'camcontrol > identify' command, assuming you're using the ada(4) driver. > > OCZ has a page with tips for Linux. Some would apply to FreeBSD as well; > > http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?54379-Linux-Tips-tweaks-and-alignment&highlight=linux > > Aligning the partitions with the Erase Block Size is important. See: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives > > One thing to keep in mind is to mount the filesystems you make on the SSD > with > the "noatime" option. This to avoid a lot of unnecessary writes. > > Some of the newfs parameters like blocks per cilinder group don't seem to > make > much sense for an SSD. Since the controller of the SSD already does all > kinds > of things to emulate a harddisk, I'm not sure if it makes much sense to > tune > the filesystem's parameters much. > > As for softupdates (journaled of not): try it and let us know if you see > differences, especially in write performance. :-) > > The FreeBSD foundation has awarded a grant to port a special Flash > filesystem > and tools to FreeBSD: > > http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-project-nand-flash-support.html > It might be worthwhile to keep that in mind for the future. > > What I would certainly recommend is that you make a daily automated backup > (may I suggest calling rsync from cron at night?) of the SSD's filesystem > to > an actual HDD, just to be sure. > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > Is there a tool in FreeBSD, similar to fstrim in Linux, that allows to perform trimming through a cronjob as opposed to perform it every time data is deleted? It supposedly results into a significant gain in performance... Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:53:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D00106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B048FC0C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q4TItfvS029816 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:55:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:55:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201205291855.q4TItfvS029816@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FC423B2.7020708@dreamchaser.org> Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:53:37 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 28 20:22:58 2012 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600 > From: Gary Aitken > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk > > On 05/28/12 15:08, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 28 14:10:55 2012 > >> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:45 -0600 > >> From: Gary Aitken > >> To: Polytropon > >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk > >> > >> On 5/25/2012 4:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > >>> > >>> I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test > >>> logging in as root (real console login). If you use "su -" > >>> or "su root", the effect should be the same. You can always > >>> check the success of your operation with the "ls -lo" command. > >> > >> Nope. That was the problem. I had logged in on the vty as normal user > >> and done su root. Had to back all the way out and log in on the vty as > >> root to make it work. > > > > I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'. The two commands > > are *NOT* identical. 'su root' does not run the root 'login' scripts; thus > > environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.) are *not* set as > > they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root' tests to fail. OTOH, > > 'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login in all respects. > > Thank you. That explains a number of problems I've been having. doh. > > > NOTE; there will be issues if the 'working directory' of a parent process is > > the directory you are trying to delete. > > knew about that part > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 19:16:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FC9106566C for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2988FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q4TJIxpL030182 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:18:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201205291918.q4TJIxpL030182@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FC423B2.7020708@dreamchaser.org> Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:16:54 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 28 20:22:58 2012 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600 > From: Gary Aitken > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk > > On 05/28/12 15:08, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'. The two > > commands are *NOT* identical. 'su root' does not run the root 'login' > > scripts; thus environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.) > > are *not* set as they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root' > > tests to fail. OTOH, 'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login > > in all respects. > > Thank you. That explains a number of problems I've been having. doh. To misquote Mae West: "When confronted with the choice between two mistakes, I try to choose the one I haven't made before." I've been doing this kind of stuff long enough that, under that philosophy, I've seen things that hardly anybody else has ever experienced. Luckily, at least for me, I _do_ remember virtually all the mistakes I've made. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 19:37:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077B9106564A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16CC8FC14 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4TJVY3s037793; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:31:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q4TJVX6f037792; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:31:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:31:33 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Franci Nabalanci Message-ID: <20120529193133.GD37412@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: kde-list freebsd , Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:37:00 -0000 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 06:04:04AM -0500, Franci Nabalanci wrote: > My French and Italian is enough for me, dear Sir. There are not just > English on the world!! Speak whatever language you want. I don't support that part of a former post. > How do you know that I didn't contribute to the FreeBSD foundation?? Did > you check my bank account?? Nothing to do with your bank account. The OP is the indication because if you were a contributer, you would have included some useful information so those who are really doing the work would have something to go on. That post was useless and no help to improving the product. Freeware is supported by all that create and use it. It is a community of supporters. Join the community in some way or keep quiet. No, I don't expect you or others to be geniuses like some of the developers and supporters - I certainly am not. But, at least stop whining and be constructive. ////jerry > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > > > On 26 May 2012, at 03:12, ajtiM wrote: > > > > > Why I am upset but not just me? > > > > > > I am running KDE 4.8 from January on my Linux computer. Now is almost > > June and > > > we got KDE 4.8 on FreeBSD too. 5 months testing and it works? No. The > > modern > > > OS for the desktop computer doesn;t works. O.K. OS works but > > installatoon of 5 > > > months testing of KDE doesn;t. > > > And help? Read /usr/ports/UOPDATING!! I red before I start inastallation > > but I > > > am not sure if helpers did! Thank you for wasting my time. > > > > > > Mitja > > > > 1/ English, learn it. > > 2/ Remind me how much you paid for free software you've most likely never > > contributed to ? > > 3/ You're too busy being a whiny raging kid to actually explain your > > problem > > 4/ Even if you had, I doubt anyone would want to help you after your epic > > flame > > > > > > Seeing you do not even show the slightest hint of respect or gratitude > > towards the people who actually work on the software in their free time: > > > > 5/ I'm gonna respectfully ask that you STFU > > > > You're such a good rager, I'm convinced you shan't need google to figure > > out the acronym. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 19:37:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496B1106564A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@martinlaabs.de) Received: from relay02.alfahosting-server.de (relay02.alfahosting-server.de [80.86.191.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027238FC21 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by relay02.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9DB8432C04C8; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:37:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de [109.237.140.30]) by relay02.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B0832C0561 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:37:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc.martinlaabs.de (p54B348F0.dip.t-dialin.net [84.179.72.240]) by alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C862F515CAA0 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:37:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC52571.7080306@martinlaabs.de> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:37:21 +0200 From: Martin Laabs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: No X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.4 with ClamAV 0.97.3/14976/Tue May 29 18:49:30 2012 Subject: ARM NAS Server for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:37:34 -0000 Hello, can anyone recommend me a ARM9/11 based platform that has support for freebsd to implement a nas server and router? Also other platforms could be interesting if they have a low power consumption. However - the performance should be somewhat better than the performance of the first atom cpus. I would like to add at least two sata drives and gbit ethernet. (And a DSL modem - preferable already on board) Best regards, Martin L. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 23:19:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71211106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 23:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B878FC12 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 23:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C302A700B9 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26906 invoked from network); 29 May 2012 23:19:46 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 32756, pid: 802, t: 0.3020s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 May 2012 23:19:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4FC55991.9080401@speakeasy.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:19:45 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC47A74.4000206@speakeasy.org> <4FC47F7B.50806@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC47F7B.50806@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail3.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: Re: How Do I Remove Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:19:55 -0000 On 05/29/12 00:49, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Set WITHOUT_CLANG=yes in /etc/src.conf and do a normal buildworld cycle > plus 'make delete-old' > > See src.conf(5) for more details. This breaks normal make: > cat /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_CLANG="Yes" > cat Makefile # Makefile for nanoBSD kld driver CC=gcc KMOD=lcd_socket SRCS=lcd_socket.c .include > make "/usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk", line 458: MK_CLANG can't be set by a user. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 23:23:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3F0106566B for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 23:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33238FC0A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 23:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA84A70124 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9413 invoked from network); 29 May 2012 23:23:15 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 26959, pid: 29515, t: 0.1694s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 May 2012 23:23:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4FC55A63.6040704@speakeasy.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:23:15 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC47A74.4000206@speakeasy.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC47A74.4000206@speakeasy.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail6.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: Re: How Do I Remove Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:23:17 -0000 On 05/29/12 00:27, Thomas D. Dean wrote: Oops, too fast. > cat /etc/make.conf PERL_VERSION=5.12.4 MK_CLANG_IS_CC="no" Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 01:13:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FF5106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 01:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79F38FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 01:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4U1DVqU071021; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:13:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4U1DVmH071018; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:13:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:13:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20120529180500.GA92876@slackbox.erewhon.net> Message-ID: References: <20120529180500.GA92876@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 May 2012 19:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Christer Solskogen , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: newfs on a SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 01:13:33 -0000 On Tue, 29 May 2012, Roland Smith wrote: > What I would certainly recommend is that you make a daily automated backup > (may I suggest calling rsync from cron at night?) of the SSD's filesystem to > an actual HDD, just to be sure. sysutils/rsnapshot is convenient. I used it to rsync the new SSD onto a hard disk. Very space-efficient, and in a way, it's a "slow mirror". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 04:22:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0475F1065670 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [207.34.147.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D478FC0A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 100-236-53-209.qcislands.net ([209.53.236.100] helo=[192.168.1.6]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1SZaJV-000PAl-Fq; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:15:15 -0700 Message-ID: <4FC59ED2.7090105@paz.bz> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:15:14 -0700 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (100) Subject: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 04:22:45 -0000 I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop. I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system will not work as expected. when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm) I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login, all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli window. All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot. If I do not try running "kdm", the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works, and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value). Suggestions would be very appreciated. -- Jim Pazarena fquest@paz.bz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 05:28:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DD31065672 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FBC8FC1C for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4U5SJuN040723; Tue, 29 May 2012 23:28:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC5AFF3.5080300@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:28:19 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Pazarena References: <4FC59ED2.7090105@paz.bz> In-Reply-To: <4FC59ED2.7090105@paz.bz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Tue, 29 May 2012 23:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 05:28:27 -0000 On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop. > > I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system > will not work as expected. > > when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm) > I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login, > all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone > dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli > window. > > All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot. > If I do not try running "kdm", the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works, > and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value). > > Suggestions would be very appreciated. I don't know about the mouse dieing. I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that once or twice when first setting up X. You don't need to reboot. Do to switch to a different vty. Log in on that vty, do a ps to find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM that process. That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original vty. Do to go back to that screen. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 05:48:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E20C106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3758FC1A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so3664443lbo.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=BBh4I/foZIeU0BdHinol9F63JM82jXWicNDe+wXAmYQ=; b=OdZCr/xTLV5L0u96dy2qmAFFz4GDMclh3uyJYhRVPy9GyBE4baNrtwi0encsb9VC8d ddR12z0vOdHCvbA3Rl9DEFtCXE2TjMdGWyIPNuyExjLV+6UR3dVm5eYf1PHwlj9Tqjt1 gqp5yCDRuOxaA09XeSGYXQauzIuGClwvsEME/+dAWR6K6dYfiPUcLuS9vvNMW2WnDgGQ E3lipw28oJAvdoBobHuKGqargFZBvNhX4Xgf1+0bGsmW965dyJx1q5Tu5s+5k1oqF/Zz oTEvgmFNdEvCTAKsMG32VlO8Co1VdxqVz+/LsSuhyp+Aetk2I7sCbEP/4UCJlAN2frrV VspA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.170 with SMTP id tt10mr11416437lab.48.1338356900399; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [174.254.45.66] Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC5AFF3.5080300@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC59ED2.7090105@paz.bz> <4FC5AFF3.5080300@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmifoTfVnBa+c0KCoemx8EAMD6aEFiSRPb05wBC4Flv0waCWPVbUKBqJTRs8YjDRFew4BXB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jim Pazarena , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 05:48:22 -0000 On May 29, 2012 10:28 PM, "Gary Aitken" wrote: > > On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote: > > I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop. > > > > I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system > > will not work as expected. > > > > when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm) > > I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login, > > all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone > > dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli > > window. > > > > All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot. > > If I do not try running "kdm", the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works, > > and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value). > > > > Suggestions would be very appreciated. > > I don't know about the mouse dieing. I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that once or twice when first setting up X. You don't need to reboot. Do to switch to a different vty. Log in on that vty, do a ps to find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM that process. That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original vty. Do to go back to that screen. > > Gary Ctr-alt-shift-backspace has also killed many a stuck x session. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 09:00:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116281065674 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACABF8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZeW7-00056s-S9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:44:31 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZeW7-0000qW-Nk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:44:31 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4U8iVF6032509 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:44:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4U8iVfw032508 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:44:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:44:31 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120530084431.GA32477@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: mercurial (hg) transaction abort! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:00:08 -0000 I'm trying to get firefox sources via mercurial (hg), and I get: # hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/ src requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes transaction abort! rollback completed abort: connection ended unexpectedly # or # hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ destination directory: mozilla-central requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes transaction abort! rollback completed abort: connection ended unexpectedly # # pkg info -xo mercu mercurial-2.1.2: devel/mercurial # hg --version Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.1.2) (see http://mercurial.selenic.com for more information) Copyright (C) 2005-2012 Matt Mackall and others This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. # Does this look like there's something wrong with my mercurial installation? Or does it look like there's a problem with mozilla.org? Or does it look like there's a problem with my network connection? Any hint would be helpful. If you are wondering, here's why I need the sources: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729447 Many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 09:07:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83F71065670 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3388FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:07:33 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QxL/C1rywaJITqvrsg8FuNesn/yGun5w1h3fA8NMSFE= c=1 sm=0 a=DpoLqIsYxwAA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=F75NhYSXZ6UFsvEO20kA:9 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=-f50tui2fFnu567X:21 a=BYJm7nL5lJbhha7q:21 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:47795] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 77/8B-13930-453E5CF4; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:07:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 05:07:32 -0400 Message-ID: <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:07:33 -0000 When a list member has problems with the list that require contacting a human list owner/operator, what is the address to send to? I received a probe message regarding messages to me that bounced, might have been spams that slipped by the list's filters. I was advised in the message that the address was freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org, and I sent my message to that address, got back a message from owner-moderators@freebsd.org with the subject Your message to moderators awaits moderator approval Quoting the message, Your mail to 'moderators' with the subject Re: freebsd-questions mailing list probe message Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/confirm/moderators/693387bfce42bd3639754d5b2b906e4ad6ce4bcf PLEASE NOTE! If you would like to post freely to the list, please subscribe first. If you post from multiple addresses, you can subscribe each address and go into the options page and select 'no mail' for all but one address. This will allow you to post without delay in the future. Sorry for the hassle, but certain immature people made this necessary. (end of quote) So did I post to the wrong address, were the instructions in error regarding freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? Should that have been owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ? Sorry to have to bother this list with such an administrative issue. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 09:29:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABD6106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E7E8FC1D for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4U9TOA2064548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2012 10:29:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4U9TOA2064548 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4U9TOA2064548; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC5E86E.1030503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:29:18 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:29:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/05/2012 10:07, Thomas Mueller wrote: > When a list member has problems with the list that require contacting > a human list owner/operator, what is the address to send to? >=20 > I received a probe message regarding messages to me that bounced, > might have been spams that slipped by the list's filters. >=20 > I was advised in the message that the address was > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstance= s. On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same interface to re-enable delivery. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/F6HQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIysQQCfflblllf0lC3FiKlPOjnmM/iY WOwAn2d08QoFs0mBb2+qtmQz7V6DUo4Y =3qeI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 09:35:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDD2106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A078FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD19A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.209.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4U9Zcan085665; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:35:39 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4U9ZRqH035375; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:35:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4U9YsUt082823; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:35:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201205300935.q4U9YsUt082823@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Brian W." From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 PDT." Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:34:54 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, Jim Pazarena , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:35:54 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: "Brian W." > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 > Message-id: "Brian W." wrote: > On May 29, 2012 10:28 PM, "Gary Aitken" wrote: > > > > On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote: > > > I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop. > > > > > > I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system > > > will not work as expected. > > > > > > when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm) > > > I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I > login, > > > all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has > gone > > > dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the > cli > > > window. > > > > > > All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot. > > > If I do not try running "kdm", the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet > works, > > > and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no > value). > > > > > > Suggestions would be very appreciated. > > > > I don't know about the mouse dieing. I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that > once or twice when first setting up X. You don't need to reboot. Do to switch to a different vty. Log in on that vty, do a ps to > find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM > that process. That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original > vty. Do to go back to that screen. > > > > Gary > > Ctr-alt-shift-backspace has also killed many a stuck x session. & you can also, from another host (perhaps also running X, so you still have full convenience/comfort :-) do an rlogin or ssh or telnet stuckhost & then do ps -laxww > /tmp/t ; vi /tmp/t look at the columns PID & PPID (parent of Process ID) ls -ltr /var/log not only to find & kill stuck stuff, but to analyse what is getting stuck, failing, & what is called from where, etc. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 10:21:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1BD1065673 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DB08FC18 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (cs-tor.bu.edu [204.8.156.142]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9CAE5A84 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:16:02 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:15:55 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120530101555.GA5854@external.screwed.box> References: <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <4FC5E86E.1030503@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FC5E86E.1030503@FreeBSD.org> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:21:25 -0000 Hello. 2012/05/30 10:29:18 +0100 Matthew Seaman => To Thomas Mueller : MS> On 30/05/2012 10:07, Thomas Mueller wrote: MS> The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate MS> from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstances. Anyway that message should mean that there is a closed and hidden mailing list moderators@freebsd.org and it's the where the TM's message was redirected? -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 10:31:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5A2106566C for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D539C8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:31:39 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QxL/C1rywaJITqvrsg8FuNesn/yGun5w1h3fA8NMSFE= c=1 sm=0 a=7-V2bO-0qoEA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=0vGXzcQ-b61cW-vO8vkA:9 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:34001] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 9C/BC-13930-A07F5CF4; Wed, 30 May 2012 06:31:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:31:38 -0400 Message-ID: <9C.BC.13930.A07F5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:31:40 -0000 > freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge > there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list > that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address > ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. > The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate > from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstances. > On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the > warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system > rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there > is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an > absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD > mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from > accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. > Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects > you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and > has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not > too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if > your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same > interface to re-enable delivery. > Cheers, > Matthew > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went awry. So I can't just ignore the problem. Maybe I should resend the message to postmaster@freebsd.org instead of freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? This problem relates to FreeBSD emailing lists in general, not just one list such as questions@ . Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 10:39:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154821065673; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD3C8FC08; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so2955537wib.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 03:39:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=8TZmyV1yTGnZ60FukBYcWDYlRt+4J1HRWuX74/noYyY=; b=pU+KV4tzJcJGSmMhRWh/bdI+RtyGE0XyjqZYU98CkCn6Z1hDLxqKIdNwhRr1pJ7nDj UleW0LQw3bPXw5Z1k5OFacuYO2yvRghMNbnTTDBwUFfharN8wuwrF3J1B5Mbp1A4AbEF nR334vfZF9h56q+hLji7ZajsfUKaIokLf20wi7uCuptwIUGPRipieqS/M/ib37t4ooBk XEgFTs81wTlH1ms9n6/ZvHleZSkiIEiDAqTaCC8oMU70avHjB5MCYLoogJ8UNBb1+S9w 5AnJyTiDwGaa7ySIw7RBiwW+TKdSBGqY+0s6JdzuX1+C0A/K3FALD7srI/QrREwSznh5 IT3A== Received: by 10.216.150.225 with SMTP id z75mr10339579wej.77.1338374342390; Wed, 30 May 2012 03:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-211-220.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.211.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dg2sm55231046wib.4.2012.05.30.03.38.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 May 2012 03:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:38:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6796223.ZjaNfggpFA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201205301238.56110.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.5 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:39:04 -0000 --nextPart6796223.ZjaNfggpFA Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.5 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. Th= e=20 packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng* [3] format. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.5,1.tbz) =3D=20 2f4b826306dfe7feed396a4752df87ca MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.5,1.txz) =3D=20 ff8ef2a3678ae1c6f28bb376f9996c06 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.5,1.txz) =3D=20 e53ed61cc5ce5d046f8ae31363b8ef2d [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh [*] The pkgng packages are now labelled for FreeBSD 64bit by default --nextPart6796223.ZjaNfggpFA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk/F+MAACgkQUaaFgP9pFrL/fgCdF9yZKPeril0dycyzu4jgKri6 2dgAn0cqHV3KbffdxqUknY1s4fM9KnEK =B3lt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6796223.ZjaNfggpFA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 11:02:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4C6106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C534D8FC17 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:02:12 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5VeZcGm1NFmRTV2v4hNEBEPe/xZnsRpUqqd3SqdO5Bg= c=1 sm=0 a=2CBf0nTliloA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=-IkFJk6PAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JSvdehsqzyUgCvPEvkkA:9 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:35048] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 45/0C-29097-33EF5CF4; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:02:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:02:11 -0400 Message-ID: <45.0C.29097.33EF5CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Michael Ross , Lowell Gilbert , uki Subject: Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:02:13 -0000 >From Lowell Gilbert : > For ports, I would would normally say that you want SRC_BASE. However, > that's for building ports, not running them, so I may be missing the > point. That may be what I need. I would be building ports. For running ports, source code wouldn't come into play. I couldn't find this, but just found it in /BETA1/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk I installed FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 to this partition, mounted now as /BETA1, but might want to upgrade this to 10-CURRENT. I noticed a BSDSRCDIR in NetBSD pkgsrc, ported to other mostly (quasi)-Unix OSes as well as NetBSD. >> I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving up the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after the >> first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated versions. > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX can do this, but in my case I would move the original > /usr/obj tree out of the way to avoid damaging it by mistake. I might put 10-CURRENT source tree in /BETA1/usr/src, forever overwriting 9.0-BETA1 source tree, then could set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX to /BETA1/usr/obj, or is that not necessary? >From "Michael Ross" : > I often use nullfs for this kind of thing: > mount -t nullfs /where/your/sources/are /usr/src > mount -t nullfs /some/dir/for/objects /usr/obj I hadn't thought of that, but now I need to check this out on "mount" man page. >From uki : > Don't know if that will help in Your case, but I just softlink my > /usr/local/src-stable to /usr/src - never had any issues. > Cheers, > ??ukasz Gruner I thought of that (symbolic link: ln -s) as something to fall back on if I don't find something more elegant. There might have been some characters in your name that xterm couldn't understand; I need something better (mlterm?) Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 11:08:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99999106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ukaszg@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3978FC14 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so10956217obc.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:08:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7eJ6EVx4TInwcGTv+Ka69lKlrrD3hgVp1HS+8BkIPaU=; b=B31eL4KwVRyRk0ozL+IQWopfy6oKiHFRYUKUKSaaiXRiMCRN268JG46Siu70K7nWcM gb7gwOqRbeNhosilAdfTUu7xm1ykGTR6rdflzfvegwc1akSze/Rp3AL7GfbxYw7zZS5m KwYn4XNWjJPRnVtofWip6sNvmPSFoWj+JviI+tsHpF58dgO+3ksmhRnPDf/TAK0wjoQf aj7Ne06mx+OwUvMSoBBXjf/IYVrzEGDawwKsY0tfY3aQFZTHyD3jp7nd/lZ0yIeJBcHC BbnBDmxMZ5HOnQeWCvsXpI3fKM8RKh390jMhDIQToc+eHyGsohTMMzIqOBSGkj6fVinD Fdkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.32.113 with SMTP id h17mr14778114oei.40.1338376087796; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.117.37 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:08:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120530084431.GA32477@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120530084431.GA32477@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:08:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: uki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: mercurial (hg) transaction abort! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:08:08 -0000 Did you try to hg clone -U and than update? Mozilla repo is quite big, and that _might_ be the reason, splitting the work in 2 parts will help if that was the cause. Cheers, =C5=81ukasz Gruner 2012/5/30 Anton Shterenlikht : > I'm trying to get firefox sources via mercurial (hg), and I get: > > # hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/ src > requesting all changes > adding changesets > adding manifests > adding file changes > transaction abort! > rollback completed > abort: connection ended unexpectedly > # > > or > > # hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ > destination directory: mozilla-central > requesting all changes > adding changesets > adding manifests > adding file changes > transaction abort! > rollback completed > abort: connection ended unexpectedly > # > > # pkg info -xo mercu > mercurial-2.1.2: devel/mercurial > > # hg --version > Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.1.2) > (see http://mercurial.selenic.com for more information) > > Copyright (C) 2005-2012 Matt Mackall and others > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOS= E. > # > > Does this look like there's something wrong with my mercurial installatio= n? > Or does it look like there's a problem with mozilla.org? > Or does it look like there's a problem with my network connection? > > Any hint would be helpful. > > If you are wondering, here's why I need the sources: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D729447 > > Many thanks > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 11:33:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3191065673 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C12C8FC0A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD19A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.209.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4UBXrfQ086410; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:33:54 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4UBXfwG035901; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:33:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4UBXTSv084958; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:33:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201205301133.q4UBXTSv084958@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Thomas Mueller" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 30 May 2012 05:07:32 EDT." <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:33:29 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:33:56 -0000 Hi Tom + questions@ "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > When a list member has problems with the list that require contacting a human list owner/operator, what is the address to send to? > > I received a probe message regarding messages to me that bounced, might have been spams that slipped by the list's filters. Spammers were also masquerading as me & others recently, I saw the mailman robot automaticaly refers to the masqueraded innocent. Happily the spam never got to the (other freebsd) list. > I was advised in the message that the address was freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org, and I sent my message to that address, got back a message from > > owner-moderators@freebsd.org with the subject > > Your message to moderators awaits moderator approval > > Quoting the message, > > Your mail to 'moderators' with the subject > > Re: freebsd-questions mailing list probe message > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list Until [at least] recently questions@ was not a members-only list I know as I asked for it be to changed to that, but was declined, http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/src/gen/etc/motd.REL=8.2-RELEASE.diff I suspect questions@ is still not members-only, I guess it's just common text or file copied & a message common to both { bounces from members-only lists, And cases where eg on questions@, a failing header check detects something dodgy, eg does not match sender & user asserted From: line }. > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/confirm/moderators/693387b I jhs@ deliberately broke this URL, you dont want any robot scanning an archive or mail reader or human clicking it fce42bd3639754d5b2b906e4ad6ce4bcf > > > PLEASE NOTE! If you would like to post freely to the list, please > subscribe first. If you post from multiple addresses, you can > subscribe each address and go into the options page and select 'no > mail' for all but one address. This will allow you to post without > delay in the future. > > Sorry for the hassle, but certain immature people made this necessary. > > (end of quote) mailman might be misconfigured, (or mis-designed?) not sending an exactly appropriate message (I think Ive seen similar before)? Still, it's a message not too far off, telling you list owners will look at it. > So did I post to the wrong address, were the instructions in error regarding freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? The address looks good, this page http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/admin/freebsd-questions also lists that address, (in firefox put mouse over word "moderators" & see at bottom left of firefox (or see source of course :-) ) freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org > Should that have been owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ? Probably not, It might possibly also exist on @freebsd.org as an alias. Per http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test has a URL to freebsd-test-owner@freebsd.org You could try owner-freebsd-test@freebsd.org BTW /usr/ports/mail/majordomo/files/aliases.majordomo reccomends an /etc/mail/aliases: owner-majordomo: majordomo-owner (additional to the real: majordomo-owner: human-or-Postmaster ) which suggests xxx-owner is preferred (at least by majordomo author, which chronologicaly preceeded mailman), not owner-xxx. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 12:40:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB351065674 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12318FC1D for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZiC2-0006D3-20; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:40:02 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZiC1-0005Jj-7m; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:40:01 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4UCe0ch091638; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:40:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4UCe0p6091637; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:40:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:40:00 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: uki Message-ID: <20120530124000.GB90151@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: uki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120530084431.GA32477@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mercurial (hg) transaction abort! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:40:03 -0000 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:08:07PM +0200, uki wrote: > Did you try to hg clone -U and than update? > > Mozilla repo is quite big, and that _might_ be the reason, splitting > the work in 2 parts will help if that was the cause. I think I tried, and got the same error, but I'll try again. I also suspected that I might be running out of inodes, so I increased kern.maxvnodes to 150000, whereas I currently have vfs.numvnodes: 125050. I monitored vfs.numvnodes during hg clone, and it aborts with kern.maxvnodes still ~10k move than vfs.numvnodes. Thanks for your help. Anton > > Cheers, > ??ukasz Gruner > > > 2012/5/30 Anton Shterenlikht : > > I'm trying to get firefox sources via mercurial (hg), and I get: > > > > # hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/ src > > requesting all changes > > adding changesets > > adding manifests > > adding file changes > > transaction abort! > > rollback completed > > abort: connection ended unexpectedly > > # > > > > or > > > > # hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ > > destination directory: mozilla-central > > requesting all changes > > adding changesets > > adding manifests > > adding file changes > > transaction abort! > > rollback completed > > abort: connection ended unexpectedly > > # > > > > # pkg info -xo mercu > > mercurial-2.1.2: devel/mercurial > > > > # hg --version > > Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.1.2) > > (see http://mercurial.selenic.com for more information) > > > > Copyright (C) 2005-2012 Matt Mackall and others > > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO > > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. > > # > > > > Does this look like there's something wrong with my mercurial installation? > > Or does it look like there's a problem with mozilla.org? > > Or does it look like there's a problem with my network connection? > > > > Any hint would be helpful. > > > > If you are wondering, here's why I need the sources: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729447 > > > > Many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 13:05:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80902106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3856C8FC12 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (politkovskaja.torservers.net [77.247.181.165]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D244F5AB5 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:05:05 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:04:42 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120530130441.GB26437@screwed.box> References: <45.0C.29097.33EF5CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45.0C.29097.33EF5CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:05:08 -0000 Hello. 2012/05/30 07:02:11 -0400 Thomas Mueller => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : TM> I installed FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 to this partition, mounted now as /BETA1, but might want to upgrade this to 10-CURRENT. Shouldn't you just chroot /BETA1? Newer FreeBSD world should be able to do the basic stuff, e. g., buildkernel, even with the kernel from the past branch. Then you can just boot your 10-current kernel and build your ports within that partition mounted as /. TM> There might have been some characters in your name that xterm couldn't understand; I need something better (mlterm?) xterm works for me in my mutt under tmux, ask me if you need to tweak locale ( I see his L char with the '/' over it in place, and the cyrilic letters in my other mail, too ) mlterm is better for asian languages; it's unlikely that European ones should be shown better in mlterm rather than in xterm. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 13:10:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E0F106566C; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21FA8FC1F; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD19A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.209.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4UDAKp8087084; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:10:20 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4UDA8fX036306; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:10:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4UD9tHc086680; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:10:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201205301310.q4UD9tHc086680@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthew Seaman From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 30 May 2012 10:29:18 BST." <4FC5E86E.1030503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:09:55 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:10:23 -0000 Hi Matthew cc questions@ & "Thomas Mueller" > Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects > you generate in a certain time period. I didn't know that, nice :-) > If you log into mailman at eg. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > you can see your current score. I'm logged in there, A page with 2nd line Julian H. Stacey's subscription status, password, and options for the freebsd-questions mailing list. I can't find any score. Where is it please ? Maybe it might not display if score might be at nill ? (nothing bounced to me lately that I'm aware of). PS the majordomo example I quoted: > which suggests > xxx-owner is preferred (at least by majordomo author, > which chronologicaly preceeded mailman), not owner-xxx. Is not that good an example, as further down in /usr/ports/mail/majordomo/files/aliases.majordomo it flips to the opposite convention, & there's samples for lists of form owner-xxx Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 13:33:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF2210657F7 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F618FC0C for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor13.anonymizer.ccc.de [62.113.219.6]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 946245A95 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:33:39 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:33:27 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120530133327.GA26631@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: termcap/terminfo magicians anyone? // colors in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:33:44 -0000 Hello. Being new from linux back in time I tried vim. It had pretty colors in linux for me like that: http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70938.jpg But in freebsd I have what I have: http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70939.jpg It 'just works' for me if I 'vim -T linux' but: - I'd like to know exact reason to be fixed other than just 'use linux' - It shows colors in ttyvX with TERM=cons25 but it has random '25h' showing up in places when I implement the actions from the begin of vimtutor. Nothing to add more yet other than ':set term=linux' doesn't work for colors that way. Thanks in advance. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 14:15:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B441F1065670 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ukaszg@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9238FC15 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so4032741yhg.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gjiJ/k2F9HbTX7sBmN6UanVhpLD2bBqBKiAyX8tOnpo=; b=kjTqtATa9nyogJvCuOukYF5SQ+2eqyrEb65oerZUnhYqWVzsVmsTd3C3RKYTYTOGeF k57GmcJjHBR0dbMUexbriNnnyNKs65Hk1K9NeQ73l7J6AUWEPz1OjRzKa1P2ePXeeUX6 pit6oyW5pkgrp4J9FSoykxJFwimxjLkZNFuQvGYsCQsqhJzrHniU8RWcSwdSnmsXJyfj xIX2mML6+IWHPawiOINTubA3pvBiHxASz5PhL0LiAr+/p7i1qOKgUQCQDcxgdqMaiSpl 8oJefRo/+AC6QEp3GhtI3ysywUWMYofTOCvJBM4qOiGERDzmBu45y4dpkMii/+PVupsL wQOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.21.38 with SMTP id s6mr15281203oee.53.1338387324692; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.117.37 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:15:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120530133327.GA26631@external.screwed.box> References: <20120530133327.GA26631@external.screwed.box> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:15:24 +0200 Message-ID: From: uki Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: termcap/terminfo magicians anyone? // colors in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:15:25 -0000 Hi, things to check: * does the color scheme require 256 colors? is your terminal compiled with that feature? * check your TERM env variable, (also try setting t_Co in vim) some info here: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/256_colors_in_vim cheers, =C5=81ukasz Gruner 2012/5/30 Peter Vereshagin : > Hello. > > Being new from linux back in time I tried vim. It had pretty colors in li= nux for me like that: > > http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70938.jpg > > But in freebsd I have what I have: > > http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70939.jpg > > It 'just works' for me if I 'vim -T linux' but: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0- I'd like to know exact reason to be fixed other than just = 'use linux' > =C2=A0 =C2=A0- It shows colors in ttyvX with TERM=3Dcons25 but it has ran= dom '25h' > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0showing up in places when I implement the actions fro= m the begin of > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vimtutor. > > Nothing to add more yet other than ':set term=3Dlinux' doesn't work for c= olors > that way. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E2= 6627 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 14:36:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355EB106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00398FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so11253475obc.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8uNf2siK3b4IMtMFf4x7oXdwwvTjJ8422xVtHTkXvL0=; b=NrNfaAnbgi6F3DrXMcDtiQR71nT+pWxL5b2n7wSFGxVQ6VTze0cge4Kym/BrggFaBk pvGHitWl62m6V1Q/17GkKpkvn85NHgNDcXcJSEaFW5ixUZHjNld8navZs7XyXUZxkCjW kSv0TlBThId2lOPgTir1uhw32K7EVnQze1XC/5SALdgDaAnxun47UhXDLrrLiF1PoFrG I9xmPMBzUtcoQj45/R3soQyicDNATLnxtA37mtnT+Cc3epN9a4oQ0oWmVi7B2zae1fZa 66+W1D2g258oq3EX9Xrz01lZ2QTuzZdriyPMgajC0rYbmit10BWvkxiKBS6V1kIj2g1J +tbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.112.102 with SMTP id ip6mr15481567obb.39.1338388581248; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:36:21 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xItH2zmV-G20tzEx3AhYlsHR_m0 Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Need some help building bootcrunch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:36:22 -0000 Hi All, I am attempting to build a bootcrunch file that I will inject into an mfsroot. I'm unable to get it built completely and hoping someone might be able to help me identify the issue. crunchgen runs and exits without issue. Running make fails with the following error indicating it's not able to find, presumably, libmd which exists. /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8c0): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8d5): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8e7): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8fc): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x90e): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x923): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x933): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x991): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9a3): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9b5): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9ca): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9f9): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa11): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa21): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa33): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa48): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa5a): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa88): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa93): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xcc0): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xcd2): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd1c): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd2e): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd47): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd59): more undefined references to `MD5Update' follow /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdaa): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdbf): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdd1): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdea): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdfc): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xe46): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xe56): In function `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' *** Error code 1 Stop in bootcrunch. This is the bootcrunch.conf (as you can see, -lmd exists on the libs lines): buildopts -DRELEASE_CRUNCH -Dlint srcdirs /usr/src/bin progs hostname progs pwd progs rm progs sh progs ls progs test progs cat progs df progs sleep ln sh -sh ln test [ srcdirs /usr/src/sbin #progs camcontrol progs dhclient progs fsck_ffs progs ifconfig progs mount_nfs progs newfs progs route progs rtsol progs tunefs progs kenv progs sysctl progs mdmfs progs dmesg ln fsck_ffs fsck_4.2bsd ln fsck_ffs fsck_ufs srcdirs /usr/src/usr.bin progs uname progs cpio progs find progs minigzip progs sed progs awk progs fetch progs ifconfig ln minigzip gzip ln minigzip gunzip ln minigzip zcat srcdirs /usr/src/usr.sbin progs arp progs sysinstall progs usbconfig srcdirs /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin progs grep libs -ll -ledit -lutil -lmd -lcrypt -lftpio -lz -lnetgraph libs -ldialog -lncurses -ldisk -lcam -lsbuf -lutil -lufs -ldevinfo -lkvm libs -lbsdxml -larchive -lbz2 -lusb -lgnuregex -lz -llzma libs -lfetch -lmd -lssl -lcrypto -ljail -lm -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 14:39:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323B4106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=49095d74b=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D598FC1B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchhubcas1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.64]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 May 2012 16:38:24 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by internal-relay-exchhubcas1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.339.1; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:24 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4UEcO30018318 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4UEcOdT018317 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:24 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Message-ID: <20120530143824.GA18299@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Chromium - fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:39:35 -0000 Hi, On one of my systems (FreeBSD 9.0 AMD64; kernel/system current as of today; all ports up to date) chromium (ports/www/chromium) fails to compile. Here's what I get: third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp: In function 'void {anonymous}::S32_generic_D32_filter_DXDY_SSSE3(const SkBitmapProcState&, con st uint32_t*, int, uint32_t*) [with bool has_alpha = true, uint32_t = unsigned int]': third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:722:65: instantiated from here third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:603:9: error: '_mm_set1_epi16' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:635:9: error: '_mm_setzero_si128' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:635:9: error: '_mm_packus_epi16' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:671:9: error: '_mm_unpacklo_epi8' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:688:9: error: '_mm_add_epi16' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:693:9: error: '_mm_setzero_si128' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:693:9: error: '_mm_packus_epi16' was not declared in this scope third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:696:9: error: '_mm_cvtsi128_si32' was not declared in this scope gmake: *** [out/Release/obj.target/skia_opts_ssse3/third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.o] Error 1 gmake: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/chromium. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/chromium. Please note that I cvsup-ed just a few minutes ago - also tried "make distclean" followed by make - same result :-( Has anybody out there seen this problem before? Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 15:16:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A0106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA638FC14 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4UFGFXs049828 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q4UFGF92049825 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201205300935.q4U9YsUt082823@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: References: <201205300935.q4U9YsUt082823@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 May 2012 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:16:21 -0000 On Wed, 30 May 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: >> From: "Brian W." >> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700 >> Message-id: > > "Brian W." wrote: >> On May 29, 2012 10:28 PM, "Gary Aitken" wrote: >>> >>> On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote: >>>> I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop. >>>> >>>> I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system >>>> will not work as expected. >>>> >>>> when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm) >>>> I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I >> login, >>>> all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has >> gone >>>> dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the >> cli >>>> window. >>>> >>>> All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot. >>>> If I do not try running "kdm", the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet >> works, >>>> and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no >> value). >>>> >>>> Suggestions would be very appreciated. >>> >>> I don't know about the mouse dieing. I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that >> once or twice when first setting up X. You don't need to reboot. Do > to switch to a different vty. Log in on that vty, do a ps to >> find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM >> that process. That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original >> vty. Do to go back to that screen. >>> >>> Gary >> >> Ctr-alt-shift-backspace has also killed many a stuck x session. > > & you can also, from another host (perhaps also running X, > so you still have full convenience/comfort :-) do an > rlogin or ssh or telnet stuckhost > & then do > ps -laxww > /tmp/t ; vi /tmp/t > look at the columns PID & PPID (parent of Process ID) > ls -ltr /var/log > not only to find & kill stuck stuff, but to analyse what is getting stuck, > failing, & what is called from where, etc. > > Cheers, > Julian If you have not, look at .xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log, and kdm's log. All this can be done via ssh of course and is much easier to do that way with a working GUI et all. Flop the hal setttings, e.g. off if on and vise versa. Also you can try xdm and startx to see if you get any different symptoms. My last idea is to use tmw with xdm or startx. If you still get the error at least you know its Xorg and not kde. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 15:17:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74040106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3686B8FC1B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so11312040obc.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OvZkLTDzPLWxNwN4deNWjJzDgpHflC1aa6hbud8hE/8=; b=Wvl56/TyUyRJElibKF/h+ajpItwgacBOLorP1ChbIw0cKJQR+T45ONbwYZ6QSgxn8H cG9VuIQUZAcb8TKtNAQ1UBpnlLEP2v5onhlGc9rJoh78kPJa6M8L+/qn7sKtNbzXN/E3 sgd9M9uz/GhDTD6Ht0djh/G68iRIFOPsCnauw8clFmrnzwNUVn75e+BMyTuPHXtP6wte o28Qs4MgmYSDCHM1MnJc92x/SxhZWfKectYRRMX+uWGy66XvEswnMYRVaIPVkpV9qEG2 4Vv2T/VDM5ytVnbJBhV+sYI+Lkhc4fAZJpaYyPjNxdsZi47iABWrLbojisN6TQrOAwmH +4yA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.47.66 with SMTP id b2mr15565421obn.2.1338391023500; Wed, 30 May 2012 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:17:03 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jM9A-yrHAeGnao5Nn3kf1eoNOt0 Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Need some help building bootcrunch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:17:04 -0000 I changed some things around in the bootcrunch.conf and got it to work. It was building 'fetch'. I moved -lfetch before -lmd and it compiled fine. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Rick Miller wr= ote: > Hi All, > > I am attempting to build a bootcrunch file that I will inject into an > mfsroot. =A0I'm unable to get it built completely and hoping someone > might be able to help me identify the issue. > > crunchgen runs and exits without issue. =A0Running make fails with the > following error indicating it's not able to find, presumably, libmd > which exists. > > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8c0): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8d5): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8e7): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x8fc): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x90e): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x923): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x933): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x991): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9a3): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9b5): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9ca): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0x9f9): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa11): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa21): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa33): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa48): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa5a): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa88): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xa93): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xcc0): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xcd2): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd1c): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd2e): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd47): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xd59): more undefined references to > `MD5Update' follow > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdaa): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Init' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdbf): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdd1): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdea): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xdfc): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xe46): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Update' > /usr/lib/libfetch.a(http.o)(.text+0xe56): In function > `http_authorize':: undefined reference to `MD5Final' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in bootcrunch. > > This is the bootcrunch.conf (as you can see, -lmd exists on the libs line= s): > > buildopts -DRELEASE_CRUNCH -Dlint > > srcdirs /usr/src/bin > progs hostname > progs pwd > progs rm > progs sh > progs ls > progs test > progs cat > progs df > progs sleep > ln sh -sh > ln test [ > > srcdirs /usr/src/sbin > #progs camcontrol > progs dhclient > progs fsck_ffs > progs ifconfig > progs mount_nfs > progs newfs > progs route > progs rtsol > progs tunefs > progs kenv > progs sysctl > progs mdmfs > progs dmesg > ln fsck_ffs fsck_4.2bsd > ln fsck_ffs fsck_ufs > > srcdirs /usr/src/usr.bin > progs uname > progs cpio > progs find > progs minigzip > progs sed > progs awk > progs fetch > progs ifconfig > ln minigzip gzip > ln minigzip gunzip > ln minigzip zcat > > srcdirs /usr/src/usr.sbin > progs arp > progs sysinstall > progs usbconfig > > srcdirs /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin > progs grep > > libs -ll -ledit -lutil -lmd -lcrypt -lftpio -lz -lnetgraph > libs -ldialog -lncurses -ldisk -lcam -lsbuf -lutil -lufs -ldevinfo -lkvm > libs -lbsdxml -larchive -lbz2 -lusb -lgnuregex -lz -llzma > libs -lfetch -lmd -lssl -lcrypto -ljail -lm > > -- > Take care > Rick Miller --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 15:26:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4C106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091E18FC1B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (chomsky.torservers.net [77.247.181.162]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3D575B0B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:26:29 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:26:17 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120530152616.GA5651@external.screwed.box> References: <20120530133327.GA26631@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: termcap/terminfo magicians anyone? // colors in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:26:34 -0000 Hello. 2012/05/30 16:15:24 +0200 uki => Cc freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : u> Hi, u> u> things to check: u> * does the color scheme require 256 colors? is your terminal compiled u> with that feature? I think I've just recompiled x11/xterm with 256 colors it but did not check the old xterm with 256color2.pl as I use tmux... With tmux I see 8 colors, 8-colored cubes and a white ramp. Without tmux I see 16 system colors and nothing instead cubes and black ramp too. Why should I need more colors? '-T linux' is just fine with 8 colors... It even works (but badly) in ttyvX I restarted xterm after I rebuilt it, I believe no need to restart Xorg. u> * check your TERM env variable, (also try setting t_Co in vim) some u> info here: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/256_colors_in_vim TERM is xterm in xterm and screen in tmux. What if vim takes a different colorscheme depending on its -T parameter ? At the least TERM=linux does the needed trick on vim but not on, say. 'ls -G' ... On a second look I see only 3 colors enough (+ black + white) on the what-I-need picture, they are just as bright as they should. u> cheers, u> ??ukasz Gruner u> u> u> 2012/5/30 Peter Vereshagin : u> > Hello. u> > u> > Being new from linux back in time I tried vim. It had pretty colors in linux for me like that: u> > u> > http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70938.jpg u> > u> > But in freebsd I have what I have: u> > u> > http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70939.jpg u> > u> > It 'just works' for me if I 'vim -T linux' but: u> > u> > š š- I'd like to know exact reason to be fixed other than just 'use linux' u> > š š- It shows colors in ttyvX with TERM=cons25 but it has random '25h' u> > š š šshowing up in places when I implement the actions from the begin of u> > š š švimtutor. u> > u> > Nothing to add more yet other than ':set term=linux' doesn't work for colors u> > that way. u> > u> > Thanks in advance. u> > u> > -- u> > Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 u> > _______________________________________________ u> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list u> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions u> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" u> _______________________________________________ u> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list u> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions u> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 15:39:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698F2106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arsen.shnurkov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D528FC0A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so4585451laa.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JSdSqat/UUjymDvkyeq/j0gcRfOKoQqeEEgy2w1O+BQ=; b=n22lACcKVIRjcUinwK4B1Fsm0e2NwqhWoqZKSUQVV12yQm+SY+23IEe0bZJOsmqTax Myk/1SrRPhmaFlCx+6fLCwsozVYsEeN+kola1KPm04ZeVRbpUmwO/UJVtD9i/2/hOUO3 C/+HIu2h050AUkrlKdi3F32qa4BWvx/KQR/ttENMuebo4N2T8m+/8+BKu2uVOOy5qY/W 6GgMNPqzQN57dpIJmMaBzqE3GBuoNs2MpfyJIMnrb0NlnC5ojzeT7R6pbcqYpzdM3SWf cqOybmmaJK+C1I9/5zp343zE5jJrwBvqUgE35EiixXEWowL9hiXaHn658+kl0caRkpdB SlTA== Received: by 10.152.108.38 with SMTP id hh6mr15999400lab.28.1338392344573; Wed, 30 May 2012 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.7.252] (broadband-77-37-160-37.nationalcablenetworks.ru. [77.37.160.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j5sm486590lbg.1.2012.05.30.08.39.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 May 2012 08:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC63F11.6070001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:38:57 +0400 From: "Arsen.Shnurkov" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unknown modifier 'u' ... Variable ALL_OPTIONS is recursive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:39:06 -0000 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=178820 make starts to give error messages for every package: [root@freebsd62 /usr/ports/www/xsp]# make Unknown modifier 'u' Variable ALL_OPTIONS is recursive. "/usr/ports/Mk is undergoing major changes today, 29 May 2012..." How to fix this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 15:49:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B1A106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724718FC14 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4UFn8GB097403; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:49:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20120530104707.05ff63f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:48:59 -0500 To: Warren Block , questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120530-0, 05/30/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q4UFn8GB097403 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Swap files and panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:49:18 -0000 At 10:54 AM 5/29/2012, Warren Block wrote: >Recently I rearranged partitions on an SSD. The swap partition was >eliminated in favor of a swap file on /usr. This works, allows TRIM >support on the swap space, and is easier to resize than a partition. > >However, sometimes the system panics on shutdown. It happens after >"syncing disks", so the filesystems are fine, but it's disconcerting. > >I suspect but haven't yet managed to prove that it's only when swap is not >empty. A race condition involving when the filesystems are unmounted? Or >should there be some code in /etc/rc.d/addswap to run swapoff before shutdown? > >This is on a very recent 9-STABLE amd64, i5 2500K. > >rc.conf: >swapfile="/usr/swap/swap" Did you remove the old swap file entry from /etc/fstab? -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 15:58:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05AB106567D; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46808FC1A; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35BB7B99A; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:58:14 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:06:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p13; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201205301106.13885.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 30 May 2012 11:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Mark Felder , dene@ilovedene.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:58:15 -0000 On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:47:46 am Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:30:40 -0500, Adrian Chadd > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > can you please, -please- file a PR? And place all of the above > > information in it so we don't lose it? > > > > I'd be glad to post a PR and assist in helping to get it permanently > fixed. I certainly don't want this data to get lost and honestly our > business uses FreeBSD on VMWare so much that we really need a permanent > fix as much as anyone else :-) > > The reason I've hesitated to post a PR so far is that I didn't have any > truly useful or concrete evidence of where the problem lies. After Dane > Foster contacted me and told me he could recreate the crash on demand with > his workload it was easier to narrow things down. The suggestion that it > was an interrupts issue (by possibly Bjoern Zeeb?) and Dane's discovery > that his crashes ceased when em0 and mpt0 share an IRQ, but em0 is > completely unused was starting to prove there is some strong evidence here > in favor of the interrupts issue. > > Dane, what's the status on your end? Has your fix still been successful? > Is it also stable if you simply set hint.mpt.0.msi_enable="1" ? Hmm, so the set of ps output you have from DDB shows a lot of runnable processes and swi6 (Giant taskq) as the only running thread (all consistent with your hang). (And that is from your Ctrl-Alt-Esc) Do you only have one CPU in this VM? If not, do you know which threads the other CPUs were running (e.g. do you have ps7.png, etc.)? -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:05:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019CE1065672 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012918FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4UG4iXp058580 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2012 17:04:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4UG4iXp058580 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4UG4iXp058580; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC64515.2060905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:04:37 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <201205301310.q4UD9tHc086680@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201205301310.q4UD9tHc086680@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDF3D30B0ED3FFD7CD9AD2D62" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:05:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDF3D30B0ED3FFD7CD9AD2D62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/05/2012 14:09, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> If you log into mailman at eg. >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions >> > you can see your current score. > I'm logged in there, > A page with 2nd line=20 > Julian H. Stacey's subscription status, password, and options for the = freebsd-questions mailing list.=20 >=20 > I can't find any score. Where is it please ? > Maybe it might not display if score might be at nill ?=20 > (nothing bounced to me lately that I'm aware of). Hmmm... perhaps you haven't bounced anything from freebsd-questions@... For me, the third bit of text on that page says: We have received some recent bounces from your address. Your current bounce score is 2.0 out of a maximum of 5.0. Please double check that your subscribed address is correct and that there are no problems with delivery to this address. Your bounce score will be automatically reset if the problems are corrected soon. Right above "Changing your freebsd-questions membership information." Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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If not, do you know which threads > the other CPUs were running (e.g. do you have ps7.png, etc.)? correct, only one CPU in the VM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:34:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68611065675 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F468FC15 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585043C89D0 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29532 invoked from network); 30 May 2012 16:34:00 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 19636, pid: 24113, t: 0.3760s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 May 2012 16:34:00 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C1033C1E; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7DA5539822; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:33:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20120530143824.GA18299@aurora.oekb.co.at> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:33:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120530143824.GA18299@aurora.oekb.co.at> (Ewald Jenisch's message of "Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:24 +0200") Message-ID: <44txyxfx1q.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: chromium@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chromium - fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:34:02 -0000 Ewald Jenisch writes: > On one of my systems (FreeBSD 9.0 AMD64; kernel/system current as of > today; all ports up to date) chromium (ports/www/chromium) fails to compile. > > Here's what I get: > > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp: In function 'void {anonymous}::S32_generic_D32_filter_DXDY_SSSE3(const SkBitmapProcState&, con > st uint32_t*, int, uint32_t*) [with bool has_alpha = true, uint32_t = unsigned int]': > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:722:65: instantiated from here > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:603:9: error: '_mm_set1_epi16' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:635:9: error: '_mm_setzero_si128' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:635:9: error: '_mm_packus_epi16' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:671:9: error: '_mm_unpacklo_epi8' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:688:9: error: '_mm_add_epi16' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:693:9: error: '_mm_setzero_si128' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:693:9: error: '_mm_packus_epi16' was not declared in this scope > third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.cpp:696:9: error: '_mm_cvtsi128_si32' was not declared in this scope > gmake: *** [out/Release/obj.target/skia_opts_ssse3/third_party/skia/src/opts/SkBitmapProcState_opts_SSSE3.o] Error 1 > gmake: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... > *** Error code 1 If you had looked a little earlier in the output, you would have gotten a bit more of a clue from the compiler. > Stop in /usr/ports/www/chromium. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/chromium. > > > Please note that I cvsup-ed just a few minutes ago - also tried "make > distclean" followed by make - same result :-( > > Has anybody out there seen this problem before? Yes. Chromium currently depends on SSE3; the recommended way of enabling that appears to be setting CPUTYPE. I'm not sure what the implications are for build machines whose output might be used on a variety of hardware... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:46:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8F7106566C for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD888FC16 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7573A1F8 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:41:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:41:05 -0500 Message-Id: <20120530163021.M44194@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.2 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Subject: unable to upgrade to mysql55-server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:46:30 -0000 Greetings: ZRunning 8.1 amd64. Ports are up to date (via portsnap). I've been trying to install the port databases/mysql55-server from the older 5.4 version. mysql55-client installed just fine. However, when I "make" the port I get the shown in the first listing below. So I tried "portmanager databases/mysql55-server -l -u" (latest version - -0.4.1_9). Attempts to update produce multiple looping errors as in second listing below. I've found references to this error, but the latest version of portmanager (I thought) was supposed to fix this (or did it just eliminate infinite loops?). Does anyone have an idea what might be going on here? Thanks in advance... =============================================== /usr/bin/c++ -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused-parameter - fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing - pipe -DDBUG_OFF -Wl,--export-dynamic CMakeFiles/mysqld.dir/main.cc.o -o mysqld -pthread libsql.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../storage/perfschema/ libperfschema.a ../storage/myisam/libmyisam.a ../storage/csv/libcsv.a ../ storage/myisammrg/libmyisammrg.a ../storage/heap/libheap.a ../storage/ innobase/libinnobase.a libpartition.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a -lz -lm ../strings/libstrings.a ../vio/ libvio.a ../regex/libregex.a -lwrap -lcrypt ../extra/yassl/libyassl.a ../ extra/yassl/taocrypt/libtaocrypt.a -pthread libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb696): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_truncate_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb72a): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_repair_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb77a): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_check_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb7de): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_analyze_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb842): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_optimize_partition_statement' *** Error code 1 1 error =========================================================== -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:57:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8951065672 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DC08FC22 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 16:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E23201 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 11:57:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:57:15 -0500 Message-Id: <20120530165017.M37727@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.2 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Subject: Corrections to: unable to upgrade to mysql55-server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:57:14 -0000 Running 8.1 amd64. Ports are up to date (via portsnap). I've been trying to install the port databases/mysql55-server, updating from the older 5.4 version. mysql55-client installed just fine. However, when I "make" the '-server' port I get the errors shown in the first listing below. So I tried "portmanager databases/mysql55-server -l -u" (latest version of portmanager - 0.4.1_9). Attempts to update produce multiple looping errors as in the second listing below. I've found references to this error, but the latest version of portmanager (I thought) was supposed to fix this (or did it just eliminate infinite loops?). Note that I have attempted to compile some of the "looping" ports individually and they compile and install with no problems. Does anyone have an idea what might be going on here? Thanks in advance... First listing =============================================== /usr/bin/c++ -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused-parameter - fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing - pipe -DDBUG_OFF -Wl,--export-dynamic CMakeFiles/mysqld.dir/main.cc.o -o mysqld -pthread libsql.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../storage/perfschema/ libperfschema.a ../storage/myisam/libmyisam.a ../storage/csv/libcsv.a ../ storage/myisammrg/libmyisammrg.a ../storage/heap/libheap.a ../storage/ innobase/libinnobase.a libpartition.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a -lz -lm ../strings/libstrings.a ../ vio/ libvio.a ../regex/libregex.a -lwrap -lcrypt ../extra/yassl/libyassl.a ../ extra/yassl/taocrypt/libtaocrypt.a -pthread libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb696): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_truncate_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb72a): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_repair_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb77a): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_check_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb7de): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_analyze_partition_statement' libsql.a(sql_yacc.cc.o)(.text+0xb842): In function `MYSQLparse(void*)': : undefined reference to `vtable for Alter_table_optimize_partition_statement' *** Error code 1 1 error =========================================================== Second listing ============================================================ skipping tcl-modules-8.5.11 /lang/tcl-modules marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping python26-2.6.8 /lang/python26 marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping expat-2.0.1_2 /textproc/expat2 marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping renderproto-0.11.1 /x11/renderproto marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping gmp-5.0.5 /math/gmp marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make ============================================================ -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 17:18:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967F21065672 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB0C8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4UHIWxF083966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2012 18:18:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4UHIWxF083966 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4UHIWxF083966; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC65661.2020709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:18:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene References: <20120530165017.M37727@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <20120530165017.M37727@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA4EE6858636A8B88B94B8C04" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: Corrections to: unable to upgrade to mysql55-server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:18:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA4EE6858636A8B88B94B8C04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/05/2012 17:57, Gene wrote: > I've been trying to install the port databases/mysql55-server, updatin= g from=20 > the older 5.4 version. mysql55-client installed just fine. However, wh= en I=20 > "make" the '-server' port I get the errors shown in the first listing b= elow.=20 > So I tried=20 > "portmanager databases/mysql55-server -l -u" =20 > (latest version of portmanager - 0.4.1_9).=20 Did you update to databases/mysql55-client before trying this? mysqlXX-server depends on mysqlXX-client for the libmysql shared library and related header files. Generally to switch from mysql 5.4 to mysql 5.5 you'ld do something like this: 0) Backups, fasting, ritual cleansing, sacrifice of black cockerel, you know the drill. 1) Stop MySQL -- plus any web servers or whatever that access mysql. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server stop # ... 2) If there is any mention of MYSQL related variables in /etc/make.conf, particularly those referring to version numbers, comment them out. 3) Upgrade mysql-client: # portmaster -o databases/mysql55-client 'mysql-client-5.4.*' 4) Upgrade mysql-server: # portmaster -o databases/mysql55-server 'mysql-server-5.4.*' 5) If you've got them installed, upgrade mysql-scripts: # portmaster -o databases/mysql55-scripts 'mysql-scripts-5.4.*' 6) Upgrade anything that links against libmysql.so -- you can use sysutils/bsdadminscripts which contains a handy script to tell you what applications on your system are affected. Or, for the lazy and those with excess spare time: # portmaster -r databases/mysql55-client (but this will do far more work than necessary) 7) Restart mysql and run the supplied program to update schemas etc. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start # mysql_upgrade 8) Restart any applications that use mysql. 9) Test. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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PO BOX 1522 Enka, NC 28728 828-367-7030 (mobile) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:15:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0F5106566C for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76758FC0A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.175.6) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:09:11 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:08:30 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3421246151-1670043725@intranet.com.mx> Cc: Subject: Firewall, blocking POP3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:15:56 -0000 Hello all. I am sorry if the question is too basic. I have a personal small machine running FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: It runs as my web and email server for a cuple of domains. NO clients no other users have access to it. Is there any , easy/faster way to stop POP3 from being working. I am running qpopper to be able to download emailes. I decided to use sendmail since only a few accounts are there and I do not need more but in the last days the server has been under a big attack where people is trying to guess users and passwords. I am using a strong schema of passwords so no problem on that but I rather to be sure . I was thinking on the following options. - Stopping the service, port 110 to respond and open it everytime I want to download email. - Install a firewall and block all the IP's but they are trying from a lot different ones. - Maybe changing the port for pop3 and change all my devices to use another port? In case I need to start from zero and install a newer version I can do it, no problem at all but I am not sure if that helps to do things a easier way. Maybe install a complete different schema of sending receiving email (perhaps do not use sendmail to send , change to postfix and use IMAP instead of pop3. Would that help? Thank in advance for all your comments and help. Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:33:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC361065670; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA55B8FC0C; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4UIOpjX097275; Thu, 31 May 2012 04:24:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 04:24:51 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: <20120530120033.C866410657C6@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120531030256.G98171@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120530120033.C866410657C6@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:33:36 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 417, Issue 4, Message: 26 On Wed, 30 May 2012 06:31:38 -0400 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: [Matthew Seaman wrote:] > > freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge > > there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list > > that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address > > ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. 'Ultimately' being operative; I gather it rather depends on workload. It does sound a little odd that writing to freebsd-questions-owner@ is interpreted as mail to a subs-only list (moderators@), which may be well down the TODO queue of the postmaster@ team. > > The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate > > from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstances. I think mentioning the whole circumstance to postmaster@, including the result of posting to freebsd-questions-owner@ could be worthwhile; I wouldn't suggest every little mail issue should go to postmaster@, but apart from Tom's immediate problem, there may be a functional issue. > > On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the > > warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system > > rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there > > is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an > > absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD > > mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from > > accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. Indeed. Considering the number of lists and the number of subscribers, I think mailman (and spamassassin recipes) do a great job, though it's always going to be a battle chasing the latest spammer techniques; the recent spamruns with multiple 'From:' addresses being a case in point, not a pretty look seeing spam 'apparently' by FreeBSD committers .. > > Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects > > you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > > you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and > > has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not > > too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if > > your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same > > interface to re-enable delivery. I hadn't checked for ages, but see my score is now 1.0, probably from a couple of days downtime last month ie delayed delivery. This would help Tom see if mailman 'knows' anything about his problem, but not what was happening to cause that? > I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the > problem, and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they > can see what went awry. Bit strange asking you to provide copies of messages you didn't get :) Are they providing your inbound MX server, ie is that where your mail is received? I gather you're not running your own mailserver. It should not be hard to find any such bounces from/to mx2.freebsd.org in their mail or spam logs, if it was they who bounced them? If not, who did? > So I can't just ignore the problem. I rather suspect that even if each bounce is logged at freebsd.org (and it might be some task to find yours, beyond that they've been counted), that it could be non-trivial to locate the offending source messages. Not impossible, Message-IDs are likely logged, but last-resort stuff. OTOH this may be something postmaster@ does routinely, what do I know :) > Maybe I should resend the message to postmaster@freebsd.org instead > of freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? > > This problem relates to FreeBSD emailing lists in general, not just > one list such as questions@ . Yes, in this case I think you should, after exploring the options Matthew outlined. Be sure to show complete headers of any and all messages you need to forward to postmaster@. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431F51065670 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF818FC1F for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q4UIW3Io017126; Wed, 30 May 2012 13:32:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:32:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201205301832.q4UIW3Io017126@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jbiquez@intranet.com.mx In-Reply-To: <3421246151-1670043725@intranet.com.mx> Cc: Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:35:22 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 30 13:16:37 2012 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:08:30 -0500 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: Jorge Biquez > Cc: > Subject: Firewall, blocking POP3 > > Hello all. > > I am sorry if the question is too basic. > > I have a personal small machine running > > FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: > > It runs as my web and email server for a cuple of domains. NO clients > no other users have access to it. > > Is there any , easy/faster way to stop POP3 from being working. I am > running qpopper to be able to download emailes. > I decided to use sendmail since only a few accounts are there and I > do not need more but in the last days the server has been under a big > attack where people is trying to guess users and passwords. I am > using a strong schema of passwords so no problem on that but I rather > to be sure . The mail -server- you use is irrelevant to how users retrieve mail. you can use sendmail and qpopper, or sendmail and an IMAP server, or sendmail and webmail app, or postix and qpopper, or exim and qpopper, etc. All you have to do to disable qpopper is edit comment out the line in /etc/inetd.conf, and SIGHUP inetd. To re-enable when you need it, uncomment the line, and SIGHUP inetd again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:47:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5F1106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CF58FC12 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 18:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.175.6) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Wed, 30 May 2012 13:48:10 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:47:34 -0500 To: Robert Bonomi From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <201205301832.q4UIW3Io017126@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <3421246151-1670043725@intranet.com.mx> <201205301832.q4UIW3Io017126@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3421248490-1670043744@intranet.com.mx> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:47:50 -0000 Hello. Thanks a lot!. Simple an elegant solution. I just did that and of course it worked.... I just was wondering... what if I need to have the service working BUT want to block those break attemps? IN this and other services. ? My guess is that it is a never ending process? I mean, block one, block another, another, etc? What the people who has big servers running for hosting services are doing? Or you just have a policy of strng passworrds, server up-todate and let the attemps to try forever? Thanks for the solution Mr Robert. Jorge Biquez At 01:32 p.m. 30/05/2012, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 30 13:16:37 2012 > > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:08:30 -0500 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > From: Jorge Biquez > > Cc: > > Subject: Firewall, blocking POP3 > > > > Hello all. > > > > I am sorry if the question is too basic. > > > > I have a personal small machine running > > > > FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: > > > > It runs as my web and email server for a cuple of domains. NO clients > > no other users have access to it. > > > > Is there any , easy/faster way to stop POP3 from being working. I am > > running qpopper to be able to download emailes. > > I decided to use sendmail since only a few accounts are there and I > > do not need more but in the last days the server has been under a big > > attack where people is trying to guess users and passwords. I am > > using a strong schema of passwords so no problem on that but I rather > > to be sure . > >The mail -server- you use is irrelevant to how users retrieve mail. >you can use sendmail and qpopper, or sendmail and an IMAP server, or >sendmail and webmail app, or postix and qpopper, or exim and qpopper, >etc. > > >All you have to do to disable qpopper is edit comment out the line in >/etc/inetd.conf, and SIGHUP inetd. > >To re-enable when you need it, uncomment the line, and SIGHUP inetd again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 19:16:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEB61065670 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3C28FC16 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so129643wib.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R+9tmUbkvuccXjtr6xBGSJ0DlAI9ZPudG9DZ6wF/qIk=; b=KaQdzW5361lWcgmFwl4cQ1jly6uEQyud3tl3Bos+6a1IGejAmD1R/hVft9gyr8NyPx 74f6kkXWHgxlMu8Q1DHpxhy+I3Biijqpt1rI5vNOJMkygCqRNTePIxMxBrt3KFrsAjDo zCexUdCsW/AEGXKNAcamt2dGHKF9b3oNBQf2JLmWWEVOWS2GKcC+zeGNl5xgaD/ylPTL cR4UBJLqQfa1efgB/zHC1XSsv2Z+BeTZ4pkoTRh6wVgpeTs94IjLYcqD0cQ/LJISY11R PZ/RPhb3zE0WlAlPoKtyjz4kUbS30rx0i/aeOwX1SEA5NJN9MCcbmbGpca4Ij/loJIIB Y7Ug== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.136.155 with SMTP id w27mr10410926wei.43.1338405370120; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.106.133 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3421248490-1670043744@intranet.com.mx> References: <3421246151-1670043725@intranet.com.mx> <201205301832.q4UIW3Io017126@mail.r-bonomi.com> <3421248490-1670043744@intranet.com.mx> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:16:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Patrick To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:16:11 -0000 See /usr/ports/security/py-fail2ban (http://www.fail2ban.org/). Used in conjunction with FreeBSD's ipfw or pf firewall facility, you can ban an attacking IP address for a set period of time after a configurable amount of failed attempts. Fail2ban watches your log files for you and then triggers some sort of action -- which can really be anything you can conceive of. Patrick On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Jorge Biquez wr= ote: > Hello. > > Thanks a lot!. Simple an elegant solution. > > I just did that and of course it worked.... I just was wondering... what = if > I need to have the service working BUT want to block those break attemps?= IN > this and other services. ? > My guess is that it is a never ending process? I mean, block one, block > another, another, etc? > > What the people who has big servers running for hosting services are doin= g? > Or you just have a policy of strng passworrds, server up-todate and let t= he > attemps to try forever? > > Thanks for the solution Mr Robert. > > Jorge Biquez > > > > > At 01:32 p.m. 30/05/2012, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =A0Wed May 30 13:16:37 2012 >> > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:08:30 -0500 >> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> > From: Jorge Biquez >> > Cc: >> > Subject: Firewall, blocking POP3 >> > >> > Hello all. >> > >> > I am sorry if the question is too basic. >> > >> > I have a personal small machine running >> > >> > =A0 =A0 FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: >> > >> > It runs as my web and email server for a cuple of domains. NO clients >> > no other users have access to it. >> > >> > Is there any , easy/faster way to stop POP3 from being working. I am >> > running qpopper to be able to download emailes. >> > I decided to use sendmail since only a few accounts are there and I >> > do not need more but in the last days the server has been under a big >> > attack where people is trying to guess users and passwords. I am >> > using a strong schema of passwords so no problem on that but I rather >> > to be sure . >> >> The mail -server- you use is irrelevant to how users retrieve mail. >> you can use sendmail and qpopper, or sendmail and an IMAP server, or >> sendmail and =A0webmail app, or postix and qpopper, or exim and qpopper, >> etc. >> >> >> All you have to do to disable qpopper is edit comment out the line in >> /etc/inetd.conf, and SIGHUP inetd. >> >> To re-enable when you need it, uncomment the line, and SIGHUP inetd agai= n. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 19:56:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01C5106566B; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DF68FC14; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:56:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=hpqHKxJDKjjR3YhhCWUCrRGRN6/9Vh0QVK0TvPbB5ZQ=; b=EkrLLSkXnXYA3VZ2Qt+YNaweEXtCpaYyFXL/gO5ugb8CjwtHHKazTjVF/ZooLYm1LC4jYmFW3wpgL0t49ge2ewmQN3ByUumZoXO6FB3XYACgUssiXZ7c9U/L76SQ8JRO; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SZp04-000Mnl-Hc; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:56:09 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338407762-26372-26371/5/9; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:56:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201205301106.13885.jhb@freebsd.org> <201205301317.07345.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:56:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201205301317.07345.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:56:09 -0000 On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:17:07 -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > Humm, can you test it with 2 CPUs? > We primarily only run with 1 CPU. We have seen it crash on multiple CPU VMs. Also, Dane Foster appeared to have been using multiple CPUs in his video transcoding VMs. Unfortunately I can't give you more information at the moment. I'm working with Dane to compile easy to follow steps that recreate this failure. I have not been successful in getting this to crash on demand in my environment, but Dane has so we're trying to recreate his. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 19:59:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D12106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward1.mail.yandex.net (forward1.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98768FC16 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.mail.yandex.net (smtp4.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.104]) by forward1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CC77A1241248 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:59:31 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338407971; bh=fTa/ARmsI5x7PlxgoxIo7tyV+0RQ4IoB5BeQr4T3EIw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K7DH04Oc9V54QhLmcHY3+eT4eWj49MXCsz2JoMATkrMREX0m0JD9ahHpGdmp1kw+q ZwWkSGq4bIacl1i/YGlI+ecf0hbOX8jTK531wPI2y02NSfD/JHTqgAx9ha1yEIWcmJ WzbmfBRIZzxBrLsByWBep/gct1CM0PQhNI3Uoox4= Received: from smtp4.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B9B135C0179 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:59:31 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp4.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id xTHupqMi-xVHKMXGt; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:59:31 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338407971; bh=fTa/ARmsI5x7PlxgoxIo7tyV+0RQ4IoB5BeQr4T3EIw=; h=X-Nat-Received:Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization: X-Priority:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=v6DthvigS7DvMhUHwk8T6W1F08nkWQP022BBIS/IJsA1pxf56QtD74LmhVE1wGRzd uWyeVTt9ldmuIuLibZ6Ugl3wHiOxAdigRY3rpU7U9eIwyZtL8q61h7zpUXpSPm+6gI q4UqH7cYLKoISXdnhnd4DgmpQro6Y4fB67L9cDhU= X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.9.14]:2496 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1338414726.29152 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:59:28 +0300 From: Eugen Konkov X-Mailer: The Bat! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugen Konkov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:59:34 -0000 Hi, Freebsd-questions. 8.3-STABLE #8 r236325M what does 'M' in revision number mean? -- Eugen mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 21:07:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549E106566B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 21:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C633F8FC0A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 21:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4UL7sem088307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2012 22:07:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4UL7sem088307 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4UL7sem088307; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC68C2A.9080804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:07:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eugen Konkov References: <8804565.20120530225928@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <8804565.20120530225928@yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC5E73AF82C6619520524F189" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: what 'M' is meaning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 21:07:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC5E73AF82C6619520524F189 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/05/2012 20:59, Eugen Konkov wrote: > Hi, Freebsd-questions. >=20 > 8.3-STABLE #8 r236325M >=20 > what does 'M' in revision number mean? That you have local, uncommitted modifications to the /usr/src tree you compiled from. Try 'svn diff' Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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(v4.0.24) Professional Organization: ISP FreeLine X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <678325145.20120531011751@yandex.ru> To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4FC68C2A.9080804@FreeBSD.org> References: <8804565.20120530225928@yandex.ru> <4FC68C2A.9080804@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[2]: what 'M' is meaning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugen Konkov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:17:57 -0000 Hi, Matthew. MS> On 30/05/2012 20:59, Eugen Konkov wrote: >> Hi, Freebsd-questions. >> >> 8.3-STABLE #8 r236325M >> >> what does 'M' in revision number mean? MS> That you have local, uncommitted modifications to the /usr/src tree you MS> compiled from. Try 'svn diff' MS> Cheers, MS> Matthew oh, yes, I have local modifications. I have removed that modules, because of make installkernel fail with 'no such file or directory' despite on 'geom_part_ldm.ko' compiled successfully and exists such situation and with others commeted. Thank you. Index: sys/modules/Makefile =================================================================== --- sys/modules/Makefile (revision 236325) +++ sys/modules/Makefile (working copy) @@ -315,8 +315,6 @@ vr \ vte \ vx \ - wb \ - ${_wbwd} \ ${_wi} \ wlan \ wlan_acl \ Index: sys/modules/ralfw/Makefile =================================================================== --- sys/modules/ralfw/Makefile (revision 236325) +++ sys/modules/ralfw/Makefile (working copy) @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@ # $FreeBSD$ -SUBDIR= rt2561 rt2561s rt2661 rt2860 +SUBDIR= rt2561 rt2561s rt2661 +# rt2860 .include Index: sys/modules/geom/geom_part/Makefile =================================================================== --- sys/modules/geom/geom_part/Makefile (revision 236325) +++ sys/modules/geom/geom_part/Makefile (working copy) @@ -4,7 +4,6 @@ geom_part_bsd \ geom_part_ebr \ geom_part_gpt \ - geom_part_ldm \ geom_part_mbr \ geom_part_pc98 \ geom_part_vtoc8 -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Eugen mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 22:21:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F901065670; Wed, 30 May 2012 22:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1685A8FC14; Wed, 30 May 2012 22:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE21B.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.226.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q4UMLSn1094152; Wed, 30 May 2012 22:21:29 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4UMLDPw038877; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:21:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4UML1xA040129; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:21:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201205302221.q4UML1xA040129@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthew Seaman From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 30 May 2012 17:04:37 BST." <4FC64515.2060905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:21:01 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:21:37 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 30/05/2012 14:09, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> If you log into mailman at eg. > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > >> > you can see your current score. > > > I'm logged in there, > > A page with 2nd line=20 > > Julian H. Stacey's subscription status, password, and options for the = > freebsd-questions mailing list.=20 > >=20 > > I can't find any score. Where is it please ? > > Maybe it might not display if score might be at nill ?=20 > > (nothing bounced to me lately that I'm aware of). > > Hmmm... perhaps you haven't bounced anything from freebsd-questions@... > For me, the third bit of text on that page says: > > We have received some recent bounces from your address. Your > current bounce score is 2.0 out of a maximum of 5.0. Please double > check that your subscribed address is correct and that there are no > problems with delivery to this address. Your bounce score will be > automatically reset if the problems are corrected soon. > > Right above "Changing your freebsd-questions membership information." Ah, OK Thanks, nothing there for me, never happened to see any such message, I guess I've been lucky, nice feature though. I found the if clause here, line 159 of /usr/ports/mail/mailman/work/mailman-2.1.14/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py elif info and info.score > 0: # Provide information about their current bounce score. We know Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 00:01:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C57106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B68FC0A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id q4UNph7R000761; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id q4UNpfKW000760; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:51:41 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Peter Vereshagin Message-ID: <20120530235141.GA102@saltmine.radix.net> References: <20120530133327.GA26631@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120530133327.GA26631@external.screwed.box> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: termcap/terminfo magicians anyone? // colors in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:01:43 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 05:33:27PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. >=20 > Being new from linux back in time I tried vim. It had pretty colors in li= nux for me like that: >=20 > http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70938.jpg >=20 > But in freebsd I have what I have: >=20 > http://www.postimg.com/71000/photo-70939.jpg >=20 > It 'just works' for me if I 'vim -T linux' but: >=20 > - I'd like to know exact reason to be fixed other than just 'use linu= x' > - It shows colors in ttyvX with TERM=3Dcons25 but it has random '25h' > showing up in places when I implement the actions from the begin of > vimtutor. If you tell vim that it's "linux" when it is really cons25, that confuses i= t.=20 A "linux" console recognizes an particular escape sequence ending with "25h" for making the cursor visible (ending with "25l" for invisible). vim likes= to use that. cons25 doesn't support it. As noted in vim's manpage, the -T option should be used only if the automatic way (setting $TERM correctly) doesn't work. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFPxrKKtIqByHxlDocRAp/EAKCayT9IPZ8WPMnzGTfxHb4Hq73quACffvFf HQvPD87LL8k1MaORjNv/HXw= =/Kj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 00:18:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F97E106567F for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2EB8FC15 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q4V0IBBL020440; Wed, 30 May 2012 19:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:18:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201205310018.q4V0IBBL020440@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: jbiquez@intranet.com.mx In-Reply-To: <3421248490-1670043744@intranet.com.mx> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:18:02 -0000 > From jbiquez@intranet.com.mx Wed May 30 13:48:05 2012 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:47:34 -0500 > To: Robert Bonomi > From: Jorge Biquez > Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Hello. > > Thanks a lot!. Simple an elegant solution. > > I just did that and of course it worked.... I just was wondering... > what if I need to have the service working BUT want to block those > break attemps? IN this and other services. ? > My guess is that it is a never ending process? I mean, block one, > block another, another, etc? If one knows the address-blocks that legitimate customers will be using, one can block off access from 'everywhere else'. > What the people who has big servers running for hosting services are > doing? Or you just have a policy of strng passworrds, server > up-todate and let the attemps to try forever? There are tools like 'fail2ban' that can be used to lock out persistant doorknob-rattlers. Also, one can do things like allow mail access (POP, IMAP, 'whatever') only via a port that is 'tunneled' through an SSH/SSL connection. This eliminates almost all doorknob rattling on the mail access ports, but gets lots of attempts on the SSH port. Which is generally not a problem, since the SSH keyspace is vastly larger, and more evenly distributed, than that for plaintext passwords. To eliminate virtually all the 'noise' from SSH doorknob-rattling, run it on a non-standard port. This does =not= increase the actual security of the system, but it does greatly reduce the 'noise' in the logs -- so any actual attack attempt is much more obvious. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 00:39:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC17D106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sheshas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1018FC21 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so568827lbo.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FiiRHHhP+liPS8SyNFmzX6cGjZw++0Df3MMLJ60Hti8=; b=oHsGB5qQgNq1W+LKfFrMRuttq3f+CvJ8dowhCZ3dQwNzwRkHYpu3bN8L//wxSJuylL mOTGiJdALE2/wPlQOKQb8XXNBer29OBF5Wy59XDCuDpuJzd+TkxidSBw0Dq9W4aYEzGh LnZjqMZNpsJ27BQL891SD7zt1ubJu4fQ2ywAPBFOwMg47nZ8/qkqH8X+adl+sL/qNGkp iaJGwdBn5vOXPOhyM0uxEoyqAO81SxYFYCyLflqzheOZQStyuxv/T3LdVpxRhNh6uV/m lquZy1Uh+XVeg17FGjFB0ZZuc+87eXpuuyGz6ReBClOrQY/ogPlgZp7TkF+hKzzEjre+ 5C3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.47 with SMTP id gb15mr17448291lab.45.1338424779923; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.58.7 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Shesha Sreenivasamurthy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: VT-d not working for FreeBSD 9.0 guest with IXGBE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:39:41 -0000 Hi, I have an issue with enabling VT-d with freebsd guest and was wondering of anyone out there are experiencing the similar issues. I am using the following setup HOST: Centos 6.2 Hypervisor: KVM Hardware: ixgbe 82599EB (10 GB nic) Guest: freebsd 9.0 Guest Driver version 2.4.4 When I use MSI/MSIX the link status is shown as "no carrier". When I disable MSI and MSIX in the guest so that it can fall back on INTx, I see that the link becomes active. However not packets are sent or received. When pinged from outside, sysctl shows dev.ix.0.queue0.txd_head: 0 dev.ix.0.queue0.rxd_head: 0 dev.ix.0.queue0.rxd_tail: 2047 dev.ix.0.queue0.rx_packets: 0 dev.ix.0.mac_stats.good_octets_rcvd: 320 dev.ix.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_rcvd: 5 When pinged from inside, sysctl shows dev.ix.0.queue0.txd_head: 0 dev.ix.0.queue0.rxd_head: 0 dev.ix.0.queue0.txd_tail: 4 dev.ix.0.queue0.rxd_tail: 2047 dev.ix.0.queue0.tx_packets: 4 dev.ix.0.queue0.rx_packets: 0 dev.ix.0.mac_stats.good_octets_rcvd: 320 dev.ix.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_rcvd: 5 dev.ix.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 0 dev.ix.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 0 I guess, hardware is getting the packets but not put in the ringbuffer. If I install freebsd 9.0 on bare metel and have the same hardware and same driver running, the link comes up and packets are transferred. Therefore, in case of VT-d (PCI passthrough) the driver is not setting up things correctly. Another data point is, if Centos guests is used instead of freebsd guest, the hardware comes up correctly and can send/receive packets. The freebsd driver that I am using is the one posted on the intel's website. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3189&DwnldID=14688&ProductFamily=Ethernet+Components&ProductLine=Ethernet+Controllers&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+82599+10+Gigabit+Ethernet+Controller&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=FreeBSD*eng From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 03:52:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E07106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 03:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E678FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 03:52:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26714150 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:52:07 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4V2q65c011911 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:52:06 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4V2q6um011910 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:52:06 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:52:06 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 03:52:18 -0000 Colleagues, I have installed 9.0-RELEASE on a SSD drive with the following tweaking so far: 1. tmpmfs="YES" (WRKDIRPREFIX etc will go there too). 2. mount -o noatime 3. tunefs -t enable I have not done any tricky partition alignment, do I really need to? Is anything else advisable? There is one thing that worries me, why is TRIM not shown as enabled in camcontrol output? [root@vas ~] tunefs -p /dev/ada0p2 | & grep -i trim tunefs: trim: (-t) enabled [root@vas ~] camcontrol identify ada0 | egrep '^Fea|TRIM' Feature Support Enabled Value Vendor data set management (TRIM) yes [root@vas ~] -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 06:26:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD4E1065670 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE74D8FC0C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so573630laa.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:26:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ALWVdbj3LG2dNAe+h6vaYr+Tk5fxXzDkyxjKqsXyDLI=; b=QJCwHw4GLZj9MXrmDhgPEB8zBEg5M5oUcH+fSaFDPsieE47vHptVSaPMn8f/W9nHNW jrLcP+5I+d8CKKRfYiIAFsPKvcR+N3ZC7qNVfhTcM8mL7jwR65no/f/oiazewhU/Jqnc J2aOkQoROxp6LMYeEia+GExQ9MpuE6WrW3ttRMIYHTMpCknu6WAdtA3NkYwnDebW87Oi e338Z2v5XEQIpFtifkR0LuHbyuSQXnCzIXZz+MeoH3d1bY3xWy7qnrag7UssxoVyRVqg fmx/Nncuj0gnoStw0yv/hXQGhgQU0v/I8HUm3AnICDbEZe24+xLLArLgM7fhwt70ac0p SQPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.131.68 with SMTP id ok4mr7408571lab.47.1338445607438; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.7.200 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:26:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:26:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:26:49 -0000 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> >> Hi, >>> >>> I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i >>> rebuilt >>> the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and >>> started >>> X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the >>> road >>> and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i >>> can >>> run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I >>> try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. >>> It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... >>> >>> Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of >>> the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) >>> >> >> First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. After that, run >> pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Rebuild anything that says it is >> missing libxfce4-utils. >> >> After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's a >> long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). >> Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the >> machine. Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. These last two >> could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not >> happen until xfce-4.10. >> > > thanks. i'll check it out.. > > Waitman > > spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machine runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log in as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that if i do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like snap of a finger instantly. I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop rebooting :) i'll try the pkg_libchk Thanks, Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 06:38:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EEA106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1110D8FC12 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4V6ckSV044942 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:38:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:38:46 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 31 May 2012 00:38:46 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:38:54 -0000 I'm having trouble getting an audio cd to make any (pleasant) noise (9.0 release). The cd mounts a regular file system ok and audio generally works ok -- playing from a file works. >cdcontrol eject (works) >cdcontrol info (displays reasonable TOC) >cdcontrol play (returns to prompt but I hear nothing) >cdcontrol status Audio status = 17, current track = 2, current position = 0:25.43 No media catalog info available Left volume = 255, right volume = 255 Successive status requests look like it is progressing through the CD just fine. Specifying an argument to play fails: >cdcontrol play 1 cdcontrol: Invalid argument >cdcontrol debug on cdcontrol: Inappropriate ioctl for device and the -v argument produces no verbose output. The CD does not have any direct to mobo audio wire, only the ATA cable. I'm assuming fbsd gets the audio down the ata cable, correct? If I do >cdcontrol pause >cdcontrol status I hear the CD spin up, and it stays spinning for a while. If I wait for it to spin down and then do >cdcontrol resume cdcontrol: Input/output error >cdcontrol play I never hear the device spin up. >cdcontrol pause >cdcontrol resume >cdcontrol status Gives no error message, nor does the device spin up after the resume. The status does show it playing, however. Thanks for any helpful hints, I'm totally confused. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 06:43:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0ED106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D288FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so583598laa.13 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lWSO4kumCBnK3JETHStqANamzLgenEq86me03ba5yOs=; b=A91fEeEgqUJJfi8e5gB8bo0RMtCSOecfavjjBVs/O3+gdtbHgyYutPUNc3Kd9rnrt2 o4SEuUjs99iYyAdOQ6ogJJ35J0HyAuuvmCFJhXJxl++8r/QUSPhwKyG5O1sChmovaJ2O JRd5ZG9ypKLhd62TAsT7BzeIfDq6TAoG5kxj1U04QQfxFkaRKOTSWMeXsWdNPSLzkPmM hrrlfNdl0bHdUuwvzNb+ArmpDFBqQtoUmquLx6EvoZM9lEmfbGDxBU8Tl5qkQhP1hum0 fzspsPbR6oeWpbtsEIu8RMTVybbqHAzQ4Mp7pbQGH0SfTFbVhWFGXTLEmeDUkCqmexSY AfsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.113.199 with SMTP id ja7mr895842lab.10.1338446590241; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.7.200 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 23:43:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:43:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=f46d04088ee58febbd04c14f618c X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:43:12 -0000 --f46d04088ee58febbd04c14f618c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i >>>> rebuilt >>>> the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and >>>> started >>>> X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the >>>> road >>>> and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i >>>> can >>>> run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If >>>> I >>>> try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. >>>> It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... >>>> >>>> Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of >>>> the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) >>>> >>> >>> First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. After that, run >>> pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Rebuild anything that says it is >>> missing libxfce4-utils. >>> >>> After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's >>> a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). >>> Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the >>> machine. Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. These last two >>> could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not >>> happen until xfce-4.10. >>> >> >> thanks. i'll check it out.. >> >> Waitman >> >> > spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machine > runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log in > as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that if i > do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like snap > of a finger instantly. > > I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll > have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop > rebooting :) > > i'll try the pkg_libchk > > Thanks, > > Waitman > > this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up with the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see this. --f46d04088ee58febbd04c14f618c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cairo.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cairo.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_h2vgj21h0 LXJ3LXItLXItLSAgIDEgcm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgICAwIE1heSAzMCAyMzoxNiBsaWJjYWly by1nb2JqZWN0LmEKLXJ3eHIteHIteCAgIDEgcm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgICAwIE1heSAzMCAy MzoxNiBsaWJjYWlyby1nb2JqZWN0LmxhCmxyd3hyLXhyLXggICAxIHJvb3QgIHdoZWVsICAgICAg ICAgMCBNYXkgMzAgMjM6MTYgbGliY2Fpcm8tZ29iamVjdC5zbyAtPiAKLXJ3eHIteHIteCAgIDEg cm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgICAwIE1heSAzMCAyMzoxNiBsaWJjYWlyby1nb2JqZWN0LnNvLjIK LXJ3LXItLXItLSAgIDEgcm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgICAwIE1heSAzMCAyMzoxNiBsaWJjYWly by1zY3JpcHQtaW50ZXJwcmV0ZXIuYQotcnd4ci14ci14ICAgMSByb290ICB3aGVlbCAgICAgICAg IDAgTWF5IDMwIDIzOjE2IGxpYmNhaXJvLXNjcmlwdC1pbnRlcnByZXRlci5sYQpscnd4ci14ci14 ICAgMSByb290ICB3aGVlbCAgICAgICAgIDAgTWF5IDMwIDIzOjE2IGxpYmNhaXJvLXNjcmlwdC1p bnRlcnByZXRlci5zbyAtPiAKLXJ3eHIteHIteCAgIDEgcm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgICAwIE1h eSAzMCAyMzoxNiBsaWJjYWlyby1zY3JpcHQtaW50ZXJwcmV0ZXIuc28uMgotcnctci0tci0tICAg MSByb290ICB3aGVlbCAgICAgICAgIDAgTWF5IDMwIDIzOjE2IGxpYmNhaXJvLmEKLXJ3eHIteHIt eCAgIDEgcm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgICAwIE1heSAzMCAyMzoxNiBsaWJjYWlyby5sYQpscnd4 ci14ci14ICAgMSByb290ICB3aGVlbCAgICAgICAgIDAgTWF5IDMwIDIzOjE2IGxpYmNhaXJvLnNv IC0+IAotcnd4ci14ci14ICAgMSByb290ICB3aGVlbCAgICAgICAgIDAgTWF5IDMwIDIzOjE2IGxp YmNhaXJvLnNvLjIKLXJ3LXItLXItLSAgIDEgcm9vdCAgd2hlZWwgICAgIDc1ODk0IE1hciAgNSAw NjozMiBsaWJwYW5nb2NhaXJvLTEuMC5hCi1yd3hyLXhyLXggICAxIHJvb3QgIHdoZWVsICAgICAg MTcwNSBNYXIgIDUgMDY6MzIgbGlicGFuZ29jYWlyby0xLjAubGEKbHJ3eHIteHIteCAgIDEgcm9v dCAgd2hlZWwgICAgICAgIDIyIE1hciAgNSAwNjozMiBsaWJwYW5nb2NhaXJvLTEuMC5zbyAtPiBs aWJwYW5nb2NhaXJvLTEuMC5zby4wCi1yd3hyLXhyLXggICAxIHJvb3QgIHdoZWVsICAgICA1MzUz OSBNYXIgIDUgMDY6MzIgbGlicGFuZ29jYWlyby0xLjAuc28uMAo= --f46d04088ee58febbd04c14f618c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 07:10:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A332D1065672 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.gain@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311898FC1B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so511109wer.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:10:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sy/BGwQSlbgSag44E8LkH+ua6SvloZ+MkqVVx24tGlo=; b=gV0vQ1Gz3GPl3fypXLz87IWcP8tdkGdGd6vnmRAz1PS84ll0gpe38D3HztnF4x8fcI 69kT8D9ru2iEHdcNfzkYGhIQsPRIhKub7iWv9Q/PEXsUSs/X9/Nv/dECz5X1A1DTTGmz oXKUvMC4umdtKVRICZLn1L7X2vLq3tQkATPB9sXBz3x0QmJRTfyfDLFOUHrI+6Y17mm5 RMkTCu3EEWt7WSAeEzjBIZ+xTF8KitTuBY9J6L5dW8zOxwFMkuagaq+97fWhRX1s4Tl1 G5r4Y+FRNIE3r5Xk9f1lB35wX9AmxtlTDmErk4WMvBV3YApFSkDNp+B/ReajFGkA551p o9gA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.215.17 with SMTP id d17mr9388175wep.166.1338448218753; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.185.84 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:10:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: Joe Gain To: Waitman Gobble Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 07:10:24 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote= : > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble wro= te: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble wr= ote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wrot= e: >>> >>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: >>>> >>>> =A0Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i >>>>> rebuilt >>>>> the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and >>>>> started >>>>> X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the >>>>> road >>>>> and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx = i >>>>> can >>>>> run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. = If >>>>> I >>>>> try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. >>>>> It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out= of >>>>> the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. =A0After that, r= un >>>> pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. =A0Rebuild anything that say= s it is >>>> missing libxfce4-utils. >>>> >>>> After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There'= s >>>> a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). >>>> =A0Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, reboot= ing the >>>> machine. =A0Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. =A0These= last two >>>> could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did = not >>>> happen until xfce-4.10. >>>> >>> >>> thanks. i'll check it out.. >>> >>> Waitman >>> >>> >> spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machin= e >> runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log i= n >> as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that i= f i >> do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like s= nap >> of a finger instantly. >> >> I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll >> have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop >> rebooting :) >> >> i'll try the pkg_libchk >> >> Thanks, >> >> Waitman >> >> > this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up wi= th > the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see this= . > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Can't help with a solution. I had a very similar problem. I'm following 9.0-STABLE (rev. 235976 ca. week old) using xfce and have a thinkpad laptop with intel on-board graphics chip. My problems started when I updated the cairo port, and at the time I couldn't really believe that cairo was the cause of _the_ problem, because of the way X was crashing. What was even more frustrating was that the Xorg log file was not revealing anything other than "unknown error" and segfault. So, I didn't know what to do for a while, and after spending a couple of days looking for an answer, downgrading cairo fixed that issue. Couple of days later the new xfce is also available, and I have had no problems running it, on stable with downgraded (currently current again*) cairo. Be sure to read UPDATING with respect to xfce4-utils etc. It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows what's going on as this is the first major hiccup that I've had using freebsd. Thanks, Joe * http://www.freshports.org/commit.php?category=3Dgraphics&port=3Dcairo&fil= es=3Dyes&message_id=3D201205260354.q4Q3sBOI042864@repoman.freebsd.org --=20 joe gain jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 78464 konstanz germany +49 (0)7531 60389 (...otherwise in ???) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 08:47:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E4C106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F478FC15 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sa12B-0002VD-Aw; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:47:07 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sa12B-0006H5-63; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:47:07 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4V8l6K9065729; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:47:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4V8l6eL065728; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:47:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:47:06 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: uki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120531084706.GA65657@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: uki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120530084431.GA32477@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120530124000.GB90151@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120530124000.GB90151@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: mercurial (hg) transaction abort! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:47:14 -0000 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:40:00PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:08:07PM +0200, uki wrote: > > Did you try to hg clone -U and than update? > > > > Mozilla repo is quite big, and that _might_ be the reason, splitting > > the work in 2 parts will help if that was the cause. still the same: # hg clone -U http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ destination directory: mozilla-central requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes ransaction abort! rollback completed abort: connection ended unexpectedly # I'll submit a bug report to mozilla. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 09:02:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147AC106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5DB8FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sa1Gw-0005ht-5c; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:02:22 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sa1Gv-0000yY-Qj; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:02:21 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4V92LD5066855; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:02:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4V92Lfx066854; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:02:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:02:21 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: uki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120531090221.GA66789@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: uki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120530084431.GA32477@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120530124000.GB90151@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120531084706.GA65657@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120531084706.GA65657@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: mercurial (hg) transaction abort! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:02:29 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 09:47:06AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:40:00PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:08:07PM +0200, uki wrote: > > > Did you try to hg clone -U and than update? > > > > > > Mozilla repo is quite big, and that _might_ be the reason, splitting > > > the work in 2 parts will help if that was the cause. > > still the same: > > # hg clone -U http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ > destination directory: mozilla-central > requesting all changes > adding changesets > adding manifests > adding file changes > ransaction abort! > rollback completed > abort: connection ended unexpectedly > # > > I'll submit a bug report to mozilla. If anybody else is interested, here's my bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760014 Many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 10:06:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10A106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F0B8FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:31 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=IVbPvqwAxPkRr6PzoduHLWkDTVaZ1Lo9Awwa23TM284= c=1 sm=0 a=7-V2bO-0qoEA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=WSiaf9ioEmgodg1RIUcA:9 a=fLvcGj-fbr8A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:52092] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id AC/96-19031-0A247CF4; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:06:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:06:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:32 -0000 > freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge > there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list > that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address > ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. > The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate > from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstances. > On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the > warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system > rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there > is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an > absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD > mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from > accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. > Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects > you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and > has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not > too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if > your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same > interface to re-enable delivery. > Cheers, > Matthew > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went awry. So I can't just ignore the problem. Maybe I should resend the message to postmaster@freebsd.org instead of freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? This problem relates to FreeBSD emailing lists in general, not just one list such as questions@ . Now I see at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo , If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mailman@freebsd.org. There was also a line in the probe message : For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. So now the choice is between mailman@freebsd.org and postmaster@freebsd.org ; I sent to mailman. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 10:25:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EE7106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitry@zhigulinet.ru) Received: from mx.zhigulinet.ru (mx.zhigulinet.ru [188.190.159.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361188FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.zhigulinet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.zhigulinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1243B99749E for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:13:17 +0400 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zhigulinet.ru Received: from mx.zhigulinet.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by mx.zhigulinet.ru (mail.zhigulinet.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3dMaLt06npM for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:13:16 +0400 (MSK) Received: from [10.80.0.204] (unknown [10.80.0.204]) by mx.zhigulinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C49FF997486 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:13:16 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:19:33 +0400 From: dmitry@zhigulinet.ru X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <546749752.20120531141933@zhigulinet.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: fsck on a mounted fs as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:25:06 -0000 Good afternoon. Could not tell whether you can run fsck on checking mounted file system as = read-only, if prior to that with which the parameters ftp # mount ... / dev/aacd0 on / var / ftp (ufs, NFS exported, local, read-only) Launched with these parameters and this is what gives ftp # fsck -yf / dev/aacd0 ** / Dev/aacd0 (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on / var / ftp ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes As I understand it does not fix the fsck filesystem. --=20 =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, Dmitry mailto:dmitry@zhigulinet.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 11:53:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224EE106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C6F8FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A3F3D1E5; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:46:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4VBkaIN001927; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:46:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:46:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: dmitry@zhigulinet.ru Message-Id: <20120531134636.e070cef2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <546749752.20120531141933@zhigulinet.ru> References: <546749752.20120531141933@zhigulinet.ru> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on a mounted fs as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:53:11 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:19:33 +0400, dmitry@zhigulinet.ru wrote: > Good afternoon. > Could not tell whether you can run fsck on checking mounted > file system as read-only, if prior to that with which the parameters > > > ftp # mount > ... > / dev/aacd0 on / var / ftp (ufs, NFS exported, local, read-only) > > Launched with these parameters and this is what gives > > ftp # fsck -yf / dev/aacd0 > ** / Dev/aacd0 (NO WRITE) > ** Last Mounted on / var / ftp > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > > As I understand it does not fix the fsck filesystem. Correct. For file system modifications the file system may not be mounted because "lower level operations" maybe will take place. In your current setting, only checks will be performed, but _if_ something needs to be modified, it will not happen. The reason: It _might_ affect the file system to change, even if it's "just" in read-only state. Solution: Unmount the file system and re-run fsck. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 11:54:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E497106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFBC8FC0C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9A73D074; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:54:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4VBsKp6001934; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:54:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:54:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Aitken Message-Id: <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:54:23 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012 00:38:46 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > The cd mounts a regular file system ok and audio generally works > ok -- playing from a file works. You're sure it's a normal audio CD? How actually is one supposed to mount audio CDs? They're _audio_ CD format, no ISO-9660 file system on them...? > Successive status requests look like it is progressing through > the CD just fine. Does the CD drive maybe have an earphone connector so you can test if anything is output? I know most modern drives don't come with this connector anymore. > The CD does not have any direct to mobo audio wire, only the ATA cable. > I'm assuming fbsd gets the audio down the ata cable, correct? As far as I remember... NO. I've been using FreeBSD with working CD audio in the past, but I always had the wire installed (in many different constellations, such as with using SCSI drives, using an individual sound card, or having multiple line-ins on the main board). _This_ method did always work. Just to make sure, check your mixer settings. Yes I know, it's stupid to emphasize it, but _I_ have been fallen into that trap already. :-) Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 50:50 Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 In _such_ a situation, missing sound is nothing special. > Thanks for any helpful hints, I'm totally confused. The FreeBSD ATAPI subsystem has been done many changes to in the recent years. Maybe CD-Audio functionality has been lost during that way? It's not the first time it's being discussed on list... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 12:38:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95E0106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 587998FC0A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 May 2012 12:38:41 -0000 Received: from g230070075.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.178.28]) [92.230.70.75] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us004) with SMTP; 31 May 2012 08:38:41 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+vz5VLJPuv856hpC690tu9Z9gkKx2lSmnxe+9XRI dQ6j/l+7s262C6 Message-ID: <4FC76645.3050609@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:38:29 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmitry@zhigulinet.ru References: <546749752.20120531141933@zhigulinet.ru> In-Reply-To: <546749752.20120531141933@zhigulinet.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on a mounted fs as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:38:43 -0000 On 5/31/2012 12:19 PM, dmitry@zhigulinet.ru wrote: > Good afternoon. > Could not tell whether you can run fsck on checking mounted file system as read-only, if prior to that with which the parameters > > > ftp # mount > ... > / dev/aacd0 on / var / ftp (ufs, NFS exported, local, read-only) Could you copy & paste the exact lines? The "/ dev/aacd0 on" & "on / var / ftp" parts make no sense to me. It should be: some_dev on some_dir (ufs, NFS exported, local, read-only) > > Launched with these parameters and this is what gives > > ftp # fsck -yf / dev/aacd0 > ** / Dev/aacd0 (NO WRITE) > ** Last Mounted on / var / ftp > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > > As I understand it does not fix the fsck filesystem. > fsck filesystem_goes_here for example "fsck /dev/ada0s1a" or fsck mount_point_goes_here for example "fsck /" You are probably trying to fsck the wrong device... Rebooting to single user and fscking the RO mounted / fs works as usual. Please provide more info. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 12:57:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E03106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70208FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VCvJQZ082201; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:57:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4VCvJkB082198; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:57:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:57:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Victor Sudakov In-Reply-To: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: References: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 May 2012 06:57:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:57:20 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Colleagues, > > I have installed 9.0-RELEASE on a SSD drive with the following > tweaking so far: > > 1. tmpmfs="YES" (WRKDIRPREFIX etc will go there too). > > 2. mount -o noatime > > 3. tunefs -t enable > > I have not done any tricky partition alignment, do I really need to? Is > anything else advisable? If it's not aligned, there can be a pretty significant performance drop. Please show the output of 'gpart show' on that drive if it's GPT (gpart show ada0) or drive and slice if it's MBR/bsdlabel (gpart show ada0 && gpart show ada0s1). > There is one thing that worries me, why is TRIM not shown as enabled in > camcontrol output? > > [root@vas ~] tunefs -p /dev/ada0p2 | & grep -i trim > tunefs: trim: (-t) enabled > [root@vas ~] camcontrol identify ada0 | egrep '^Fea|TRIM' > Feature Support Enabled Value Vendor > data set management (TRIM) yes > [root@vas ~] I think that no value there means it cannot be enabled or disabled; it's always on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 13:16:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187951065672 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CD58FC1E for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VDG9rf082291; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:16:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4VDG965082288; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:16:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 07:16:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120531134636.e070cef2.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <546749752.20120531141933@zhigulinet.ru> <20120531134636.e070cef2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 May 2012 07:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: dmitry@zhigulinet.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on a mounted fs as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:16:13 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:19:33 +0400, dmitry@zhigulinet.ru wrote: >> Good afternoon. >> Could not tell whether you can run fsck on checking mounted >> file system as read-only, if prior to that with which the parameters >> >> >> ftp # mount >> ... >> / dev/aacd0 on / var / ftp (ufs, NFS exported, local, read-only) >> >> Launched with these parameters and this is what gives >> >> ftp # fsck -yf / dev/aacd0 >> ** / Dev/aacd0 (NO WRITE) >> ** Last Mounted on / var / ftp >> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >> >> As I understand it does not fix the fsck filesystem. > > Correct. For file system modifications the file system may not > be mounted because "lower level operations" maybe will take > place. In your current setting, only checks will be performed, > but _if_ something needs to be modified, it will not happen. > The reason: It _might_ affect the file system to change, even > if it's "just" in read-only state. > > Solution: Unmount the file system and re-run fsck. fsck(8) can work on filesystems mounted read only. If, say, graphics/cairo causes X to crash the machine, rebooting into single-user mode and running # fsck -y -t ufs will clean up the read-only mounted / also. Agreed that this should be avoided if possible, but sometimes it is necessary. 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Installation is done via remote-management ("iLO") basically by mounting the Installation-ISO. However a couple of seconds after booting the box crashes. Here's what I tried already: o) Re-download the installation ISO - same checksum - same result o) Instead of booting directly I issued the following two commands on the loader prompt: set kern.eventtimer.periodic=1 set kern.eventtimer.timer="LAPIC" followed by "boot" Neither of these helped. To cross-check I tried booting of a FreeBSD 8 installation media - no problems at all (besides that the machine is running FreeBSD8 currently without problems) Any clue what could be wrong here and what I can do in order to make this box boot from the installation media? 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X-Session-Marker: 70686E7863735F726570406C79636F732E636F6D X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1848 Received: from webmail06 (imap-ext [64.98.36.5]) (Authenticated sender: phnxcs_rep@lycos.com) by omf14.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 70.162.20.183 ([70.162.20.183]) by webmail06 (Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:23:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:23:10 +0000 (GMT) From: phnxcs_rep@lycos.com To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1110880194.1468.1338474190360.JavaMail.mail@webmail06> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Webmail X-Originating-IP: [70.162.20.183] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Hardware compatability question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:40:15 -0000 Hello, I am moving away from MS products due to security = and stability concerns. Below are the machines I use and would like = to know which version of FreeBSD will work best with each. The compu= ters are used at home and away, for e-mail, preparing documents, databases= , and spredsheets, as well as, web browsing and some begining programing = (Perl, C, HTML, and Assembely I think). Here are the notes on my= machines: HP Compaq CQ5300Y MOBO M2N68-LA (Narra5) AMD Sempron LE-1300 2.30GHz Vidio Card NVIDIA GeForce = 6150SE nForce 430 RAM: PC2-6400 MB/sec 2 Gigs RAM HD:= WDC WD32 00AAJS-65M0A SCSI 320 Gig HD Toshiba Satel= lite A205-S5880 Intel Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86 GH Vidio Card: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset RAM: 3 Gigs = HD: Toshiba MK2046GSX ATA Both where bought new and = are stock off the shelf models. Thank you for your fine efforts = and your time in this, Phnxcs_rep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 14:48:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE07106566C; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D658FC1D; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85873B96E; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:48:48 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Mark Felder Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:48:45 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p13; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201205301317.07345.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201205311048.45813.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 31 May 2012 10:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:48:49 -0000 On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:56:02 pm Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:17:07 -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > Humm, can you test it with 2 CPUs? > > > > We primarily only run with 1 CPU. We have seen it crash on multiple CPU > VMs. Also, Dane Foster appeared to have been using multiple CPUs in his > video transcoding VMs. > > Unfortunately I can't give you more information at the moment. I'm working > with Dane to compile easy to follow steps that recreate this failure. I > have not been successful in getting this to crash on demand in my > environment, but Dane has so we're trying to recreate his. Ok. It would be really helpful if we could get a crashdump, though I realize that may not be doable. Otherwise, full DDB ps output from a hang would be a good start. Primarily I would want to see what the system is doing and why it isn't running the threads on the run queue. It might also be useful to add KTR_SCHED tracing so we can get the output of that via 'show ktr' from DDB when it hangs. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 14:54:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982331065783 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFC18FC17 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabj40 with SMTP id j40so926873qab.15 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z/KaP87R0rOKN3v0fpOCUntFX8C2zwUhW3+fA4EsASU=; b=fT3yP0RMUpkANCCzFb01PhvofwtBINO7Ws2JhQ6cCr8qr/9HhwnFkHeke5esSs5k43 35ubKDfGpeefRVb8VqhyxJwNvXKK9nId16L2f7JClKfc7b6sT/yRpnmgZFUlQHi4nY0Q edOQCrhnZMZp2Op+h9RdXsW0rgbu+4duhkt4biXwnWFPa5g5nolRS20wPvJeM16ZpVky olBICYc9nzrHszVxSA1FTCVsMXdy3MkklSB+X/iKSH5N8VhXUD6dIre5kMFEyIMOZtFe QKYRSIz0qrs1mohNeDSz6prv5UiqHc0Hrht6D7xw/rCKwSyNFg5gu/fsKGwgHxSwK4ew 6jQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.205.6 with SMTP id fo6mr283693qab.73.1338476084586; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.26.136 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1110880194.1468.1338474190360.JavaMail.mail@webmail06> References: <1110880194.1468.1338474190360.JavaMail.mail@webmail06> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:54:44 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: phnxcs_rep@lycos.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatability question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:54:45 -0000 Hi, it's not really about the machines but more the hardware. FreeBSD is quite diverse in what it can run on so best bet check the HCL's off the www.freebsd.org website as that would give you the best idea! Otherwise just install and see what works and doesn't. FreeBSD is pretty comprehensive of H/W support. I would say if you were moving away from MS, FreeBSD is a great choice and probably the best out there providing you don't need something specific - you will need to get used to the CLI environment but once that's worked out it's a sinch. I am now introducing *BSD to my company too and trying to move them away from Linux which has it's own caveats. Good luck with the move, I'd love to give you a full-blown sales pitch but unfortunatley don't have time right now. - though it would be kinda useless as FreeBSD really sells itself if you know what it can do for you! Regards, Kaya On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wrote: > > =A0 =A0 Hello, > =A0 I am moving away from MS products due to security =A0and stability > =A0 concerns. =A0Below are the machines I use and would like =A0to know w= hich > =A0 version of FreeBSD will work best with each. =A0The compu ters are us= ed > =A0 at home and away, for e-mail, preparing documents, databases , and > =A0 spredsheets, as well as, web browsing and some begining programing = =A0 =A0(Perl, C, HTML, and Assembely I think). > =A0 Here are the notes on my machines: > =A0 HP Compaq CQ5300Y > =A0 MOBO M2N68-LA (Narra5) > =A0 AMD Sempron LE-1300 2.30GHz > =A0 Vidio Card NVIDIA GeForce =A06150SE nForce 430 > =A0 RAM: PC2-6400 MB/sec 2 Gigs RAM > =A0 HD: WDC WD32 00AAJS-65M0A SCSI 320 Gig HD > =A0 Toshiba Satel lite A205-S5880 > =A0 Intel Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86 GH > =A0 Vidio Card: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset > =A0 RAM: 3 Gigs > =A0 =A0 =A0HD: Toshiba MK2046GSX ATA > =A0 Both where bought new and =A0are stock off the shelf models. > =A0 Thank you for your fine efforts =A0and your time in this, > =A0 Phnxcs_rep > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 15:11:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30CE106564A; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830AF8FC18; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:11:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=booLkkYv/+ARJZmxyxTU6ygy89uLJr3ito2uITNWjsM=; b=KIF6PAjOgu3AKTKgZrUOW2jV+3ZXF/hvgaI4/V/SKXOBggbw404nMNV6wNgwn+ScU+b5KHYTo2gHzf9gNkjoXuyYDG1ZpjZsD8pQHl3uuE7HLO3xqspaiMJ+bVfp0v0x; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sa71x-000OnE-Fg; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:11:24 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338477071-26372-26371/5/12; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:11:11 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201205301317.07345.jhb@freebsd.org> <201205311048.45813.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:11:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201205311048.45813.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:11:24 -0000 So when this hang happens, there never is a real panic. It just sits in a state which I describe as like being in a deadlock. How would I go about getting a crashdump if it never panics? Is it possible to do the dump over a network or something because I don't believe it can write through the controller at all. Also, thank you for the KTR_SCHED tip. This is the type of info I was looking for. Unfortunately I've only ever seen this crash once on a kernel with debugging enabled. The machine which is currently prepared to do this work used to crash a few times a week and now it has 70 days uptime... however, it is an example of a machine with mpt0 and em0 sharing an IRQ so I might be able to trigger it using Dane's method. $ vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 392 0 irq6: fdc0 9 0 irq14: ata0 34 0 irq18: em0 mpt0 1189748491 218 cpu0: timer 2174263198 400 Total 3364012124 619 I'm doing my best to get you guys the info you need, but this is one heck of a Heisenbug... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 15:32:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8C31065679 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEA78FC1D for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so1266333bkv.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6UAPR9zFIpYpTydWYAW3fw652LpekGlmEb8dvV/tTIo=; b=vIRGDRoydJTqiIPLQXe59oPR8L5a1PrWOUG6O4k1usxzFf2fWYihsAQc+J6jlcERyf y/gOiwaYXOrIFbFF3X72o1WKWXOCLev6go/sPD+LGZlIyF52L2Mmln4fXBjOEjdIbciY En5AjpcHW8lCEtkzEZKRMrVNRd6ZWevRuDhz2tUSBRLOct0nRCJap+wZ29oUnkZcvWnC 0MjizEZ8St6jSI+q1BnTO7oWGrEgfp0x5bstfruzB4JjCecpxo+oCtO24RHs+BEsJJJw gUb0mT+Glvab7ZOOdCy6yOI6yus9lmzxAp8MkxdXOAYLeHsldDFzYNw/khOcBn08n5Xu Gviw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.16 with SMTP id u16mr11984766bkw.13.1338478353061; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.200 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Oscar Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:32:34 -0000 The subject is pretty much the question. Perhaps there's a better place to be asking this question ... We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays with ZFS. In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications of people actually doing this. External JBODs would be running 24 to 48TB each, roughly. There would be a couple of units. The pizza boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. I've set up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. Observations would be appreciated. Oscar. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 15:38:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A721065670 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DECC8FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so728157qcs.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:38:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AWR+Cm358sDbJgBGJEgYf6N+EfavhYXZs0TewrE8ClM=; b=MBgAEK9851TIISbKyvVrZUuaosp7OkUrOsN6hw8s1p6x8vyPPAb/pmUJRiY0hyJHD0 il2kj/SaScSfTmF5kFqlaFa6F5l77fQBHUwfcCjo+ZKHJP8LmuHK99oqVe9UiOKs0Bwd KHch0npuDbalxVg8AsDtCbA7pKyL0iDhRgY/uKxDeDgnAj9P/mrhDFYl8wnMXXiOtN+r +NGC+IAvubZ5XZei3oiq6BWwhWAQHSIUS5wlF87zw8UJYepNC1LaAyh6rK+rACVl4KvK kzJtT6US0ghOosKmomnVj/kh+CYjiyf6vIA9wb4aMzi2TOJ1HNSW9HiCQJfUCPIhPo7R f8Ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.188.140 with SMTP id da12mr520687qab.42.1338478731676; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.26.136 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:38:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:38:51 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: Oscar Hodgson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:38:58 -0000 If this is any consellation I run a 36TB cluster using a self built server with a Promise DAS (VessJBOD 1840) using ZFS at home! to support my OpenSource projects and personal files. As for OS take your pick: NexentaStor, FreeBSD, Solaris 11 All capable, of course Solaris has latest version of ZFS but still..... At work we're looking into getting a StorEdge appliance wich will handle up to 140+ TB. I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run.... well how many JBOD's can you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so..... Regards, Kaya On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Oscar Hodgson wr= ote: > The subject is pretty much the question. =A0Perhaps there's a better > place to be asking this question ... > > We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD > pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays > with ZFS. =A0In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications > of people actually doing this. =A0External JBODs would be running 24 to > 48TB each, roughly. =A0There would be a couple of units. =A0The pizza > boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have > 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. > > Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. =A0I've set > up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for > other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. > > Observations would be appreciated. > > Oscar. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 15:57:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FE0106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BAE8FC12 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 55C3958054; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VFv4vk012222 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:57:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4VFv4eN012221 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:57:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:57:04 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:57:18 -0000 hello, world\n so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged to an USB2(two!) reports da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 40.000MB/s transfers da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) and # diskinfo -v da5 da5 4096 # sectorsize 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) 244190646 # mediasize in sectors 0 # stripesize 0 # stripeoffset 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. 00A123456789 # Disk ident. (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. Strangely, I cannot mount it with # ll /dev/da5* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument ) When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever growing list of ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass2: on usbus4 ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 15:58:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D0F1065693; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D998FC21; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C7D3B995; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:57:59 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Mark Felder Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:57:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p13; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201205311048.45813.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201205311157.42909.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 31 May 2012 11:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:58:04 -0000 On Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:11:11 am Mark Felder wrote: > So when this hang happens, there never is a real panic. It just sits in a > state which I describe as like being in a deadlock. How would I go about > getting a crashdump if it never panics? Is it possible to do the dump over > a network or something because I don't believe it can write through the > controller at all. You can break into ddb and run 'call doadump'. It should use polled IO, so there is a slight chance of it working. > Also, thank you for the KTR_SCHED tip. This is the type of info I was > looking for. Unfortunately I've only ever seen this crash once on a kernel > with debugging enabled. The machine which is currently prepared to do this > work used to crash a few times a week and now it has 70 days uptime... > however, it is an example of a machine with mpt0 and em0 sharing an IRQ so > I might be able to trigger it using Dane's method. > > $ vmstat -i > interrupt total rate > irq1: atkbd0 392 0 > irq6: fdc0 9 0 > irq14: ata0 34 0 > irq18: em0 mpt0 1189748491 218 > cpu0: timer 2174263198 400 > Total 3364012124 619 > > > I'm doing my best to get you guys the info you need, but this is one heck > of a Heisenbug... Thanks. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 16:05:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8771065673 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 16:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB8E8FC23 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 16:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so1310359bkv.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:05:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PAYDo2zoPPJwvE05eDbetGXPyDg6DTMJ1fXux7YIp0c=; b=UlyizPwBmTK3yfDrRhgEPvwfAD7xr4r2dlnhy+tKCROibOQ4OJydfFmK+cyNsM/o/Z Dc/sPFGOK/HfnRDDplVMc8Tt9mI/D1MDHNEhxuWVbOdlVZ8mSfqjnSuPvVURxUDR4Vff 3dUv9EeRqA+gNWAieYxHc1/v6xJj9TZClPlGJVOuY682ryoYyf09Hrx3azNz7ok3aMnK 6lK/iUa/S5pM2/PaTSQaNchOy9svJ68lKOTFV9/rNUObBdOlBF7A0taT3c/WaTQ55AD4 Yy+4GAff64fXJ8idsallZvqJY9CW0/BxjZ+D+6dBwj74GAYFts1w/wC+4h4rqVDmfgLD Xu7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.2 with SMTP id w2mr12680787bkv.101.1338480349390; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.200 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:05:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:05:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Oscar Hodgson To: Kaya Saman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:05:51 -0000 That helps. Thank you. This is an academic departmental instructional / research environment. We had a great relationship with Sun, they provided great opportunities to put Solaris in front of students. Oracle, not so much, and the Oracle single-tier support model simply isn't affordable for this "business" (there's no ROI at the departmental level ). Solaris is not a viable option. FreeBSD looks like the next best available option at the moment, particularly considering the use of the storage heads as compute machines. OpenIndiana shows promise. Nexenta has a great product, but the user community expects more flexibility in software options. Is there anything like a list of "supported" (known good) SAS HBA's? Oscar On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: > If this is any consellation I run a 36TB cluster using a self built > server with a Promise DAS (VessJBOD 1840) using ZFS at home! to > support my OpenSource projects and personal files. > > As for OS take your pick: NexentaStor, FreeBSD, Solaris 11 > > > All capable, of course Solaris has latest version of ZFS but still..... > > > At work we're looking into getting a StorEdge appliance wich will > handle up to 140+ TB. > > > I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a > FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run.... well how many JBOD's can > you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so..... > > > Regards, > > > Kaya > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Oscar Hodgson = wrote: >> The subject is pretty much the question. =A0Perhaps there's a better >> place to be asking this question ... >> >> We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD >> pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays >> with ZFS. =A0In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications >> of people actually doing this. =A0External JBODs would be running 24 to >> 48TB each, roughly. =A0There would be a couple of units. =A0The pizza >> boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have >> 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. >> >> Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. =A0I've set >> up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for >> other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. >> >> Observations would be appreciated. >> >> Oscar. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 16:12:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CE31065672 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321E68FC15 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so3045169qab.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:12:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ry1NsVHAGow+Bqy56PRpuvV4RtJp65tnSowf+pvXj+U=; b=fJLQ3dE+8D/YUgyPsKP7H2kHZ2b/HBrgzDr5EScpicweTvIgxmF3dQj8uUCv+qdUOG JTI7g0aaCIMTZDPWwKVfnEU6AoHWjeTUw77Kv8eNLTJmWgCz/cOzEAryg9LHg8syl2xE AHzN89gUoXP6DbqO1RnZmaJwwYco0sHxke0KcFuCMZNM2kjgUAusH8TjhfyhEDJH0/lQ n1bbEJZD9fGesWDan2oAJEGg1MDU+7kBP827Hrzd7MjI3qWgwoJTLK2mhlP0SUp6h5sb xlWcdxQ/UWIG+7MhCPNtXBvE5lN0L5IF8I91HIgmAMRPAK246JZ5rImwDbQsplXlT5NL vhPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.135.130 with SMTP id n2mr1176589qct.124.1338480774471; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.26.136 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 09:12:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:12:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: Oscar Hodgson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:12:55 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Oscar Hodgson wr= ote: > That helps. =A0Thank you. > > This is an academic departmental instructional / research environment. > =A0We had a great relationship with Sun, they provided great > opportunities to put Solaris in front of students. =A0Oracle, not so > much, and the Oracle single-tier support model simply isn't affordable > for this "business" (there's no ROI at the departmental level ). > Solaris is not a viable option. We found Oracle to be the cheapest out of all the solutions we looked at: Netapp, MSI, et el..... > > FreeBSD looks like the next best available option at the moment, > particularly considering the use of the storage heads as compute > machines. =A0OpenIndiana shows promise. =A0Nexenta has a great product, > but the user community expects more flexibility in software options. FreeBSD is better then Linux in my opinion though lacking some software and multimedia functionality that Linux has and not for the Desktop as it's not as "bleeding edge" as say Fedora 16, however, if FreeBSD offered Gnome3 and supported my wireless NIC I'd be all over it like a "bad rash" :-) > > Is there anything like a list of "supported" (known good) SAS HBA's? LSI HBA's are really good! For my DIY solution at home I used a SuperMicro system board with non-RAID LSI HBA....... It is a similar solution that we will use for our test NAS at work though we already have a Dell R700 series server. For this setup however I will need to use an LSI HBA with both internal and external Mini-SAS ports. Instead of Promise we will use NetStor JBOD solutions as they work with 6Gbps drives and overall give better performance. > > Oscar Regards, Kaya > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: >> If this is any consellation I run a 36TB cluster using a self built >> server with a Promise DAS (VessJBOD 1840) using ZFS at home! to >> support my OpenSource projects and personal files. >> >> As for OS take your pick: NexentaStor, FreeBSD, Solaris 11 >> >> >> All capable, of course Solaris has latest version of ZFS but still..... >> >> >> At work we're looking into getting a StorEdge appliance wich will >> handle up to 140+ TB. >> >> >> I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a >> FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run.... well how many JBOD's can >> you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so..... >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Kaya >> >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Oscar Hodgson = wrote: >>> The subject is pretty much the question. =A0Perhaps there's a better >>> place to be asking this question ... >>> >>> We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD >>> pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays >>> with ZFS. =A0In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indication= s >>> of people actually doing this. =A0External JBODs would be running 24 to >>> 48TB each, roughly. =A0There would be a couple of units. =A0The pizza >>> boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have >>> 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. >>> >>> Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. =A0I've set >>> up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for >>> other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. >>> >>> Observations would be appreciated. >>> >>> Oscar. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 17:00:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337FA106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732618FC16 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26731857 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:00:37 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VH0a05029664 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:00:36 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q4VH0ahv029663 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:00:36 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:00:36 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120531170035.GA29456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:00:40 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > > > > I have installed 9.0-RELEASE on a SSD drive with the following > > tweaking so far: > > > > 1. tmpmfs="YES" (WRKDIRPREFIX etc will go there too). > > > > 2. mount -o noatime > > > > 3. tunefs -t enable > > > > I have not done any tricky partition alignment, do I really need to? Is > > anything else advisable? > > If it's not aligned, there can be a pretty significant performance > drop. Please show the output of 'gpart show' on that drive if it's GPT > (gpart show ada0) or drive and slice if it's MBR/bsdlabel (gpart show > ada0 && gpart show ada0s1). It was created by the "Auto" option of the new FreeBSD installer: [sudakov@vas ~] gpart show ada0 => 34 117231341 ada0 GPT (55G) 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64k) 162 111148928 2 freebsd-ufs (53G) 111149090 5861376 3 freebsd-swap (2.8G) 117010466 220909 - free - (107M) [sudakov@vas ~] > > > There is one thing that worries me, why is TRIM not shown as enabled in > > camcontrol output? > > > > [root@vas ~] tunefs -p /dev/ada0p2 | & grep -i trim > > tunefs: trim: (-t) enabled > > [root@vas ~] camcontrol identify ada0 | egrep '^Fea|TRIM' > > Feature Support Enabled Value Vendor > > data set management (TRIM) yes > > [root@vas ~] > > I think that no value there means it cannot be enabled or disabled; it's > always on. Oh. Thanks. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 17:28:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905CF1065672 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41ABB8FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so1263669yen.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=vUPdaRdMhiNzh4tEnetYI5eq25VmTUKnHXiWW1TmnTI=; b=fy0OzTJBbQZOkO0mGBAXiP84cXMbjGQ5ypeieRuHDSU3SmM+qZI03xSgqfGlxXIN1d AxJE2B43PYmlcZWlDXjDiThkjwrDd7Hv9sHVjrAGR+HJa1EsnoHquFLk2euqhrNiXHzU HiX6FRXutxm1A7kJIBf146oq3c3MzO6E1uG/ejgSTkv6mu70IXqZ/97vBJH+oi3HxMjz u3HZoorBZqF1eJFEb/ChkMayFSKqSZumlkg+HAk8UdaXsEUtiJye3RF455LD15RoJn7/ Mx3LlH8HMdLLZY7t6RIbxBzF3pnjwc1V6JFWEWrp1gwZN2hxUIWuBK4XMD2je0XAWgYy 17cg== Received: by 10.236.153.199 with SMTP id f47mr3141708yhk.23.1338485325602; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2a01:e35:8a8e:f260:f05f:4fe6:21e2:dc81? ([2a01:e35:8a8e:f260:f05f:4fe6:21e2:dc81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v16sm5376535anh.22.2012.05.31.10.28.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 31 May 2012 10:28:45 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <2E9D8528-720F-4C35-B047-2887C914CC4D@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:28:37 +0200 To: Oscar Hodgson X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQltAw6iAryupc91T5U1ld+gt4Oi2J80K/9ppbex4qQG0vuzCj2MANKdpT3bCAaa+4O5TDT4 Cc: Kaya Saman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:28:46 -0000 As a side note and in case you were considering, I strongly advise against L= inux + fuse ZFS. On 31 May 2012, at 18:05, Oscar Hodgson wrote: > That helps. Thank you. >=20 > This is an academic departmental instructional / research environment. > We had a great relationship with Sun, they provided great > opportunities to put Solaris in front of students. Oracle, not so > much, and the Oracle single-tier support model simply isn't affordable > for this "business" (there's no ROI at the departmental level ). > Solaris is not a viable option. >=20 > FreeBSD looks like the next best available option at the moment, > particularly considering the use of the storage heads as compute > machines. OpenIndiana shows promise. Nexenta has a great product, > but the user community expects more flexibility in software options. >=20 > Is there anything like a list of "supported" (known good) SAS HBA's? >=20 > Oscar >=20 > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: >> If this is any consellation I run a 36TB cluster using a self built >> server with a Promise DAS (VessJBOD 1840) using ZFS at home! to >> support my OpenSource projects and personal files. >>=20 >> As for OS take your pick: NexentaStor, FreeBSD, Solaris 11 >>=20 >>=20 >> All capable, of course Solaris has latest version of ZFS but still..... >>=20 >>=20 >> At work we're looking into getting a StorEdge appliance wich will >> handle up to 140+ TB. >>=20 >>=20 >> I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a >> FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run.... well how many JBOD's can >> you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so..... >>=20 >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >>=20 >> Kaya >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Oscar Hodgson w= rote: >>> The subject is pretty much the question. Perhaps there's a better >>> place to be asking this question ... >>>=20 >>> We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD >>> pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays >>> with ZFS. In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications >>> of people actually doing this. External JBODs would be running 24 to >>> 48TB each, roughly. There would be a couple of units. The pizza >>> boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have >>> 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. >>>=20 >>> Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. I've set >>> up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for >>> other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. >>>=20 >>> Observations would be appreciated. >>>=20 >>> Oscar. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 17:32:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAAE1065670 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B38B8FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so1183938laa.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:32:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qNteq/J9GvZ0TfKyP/Pod1DPUe7oqlV51e0+WpBnPjo=; b=HjTLsSZdKcqysU8dBbC3e64vnMJVHNe8qqL3Vx9saJqp6W0Eah/cuPjEDYz2svFEuA efGWu8Yz7xKMjsW/Ti2nQpVVNM2mwgv+wV6Vm7MrHM77S7nUmnE/b8k3XQpXm1A+rcLY HbucPqKag7DqMCVJSbr4kJfEL54ZR3sWbdUjpJZxjx9mHj9lPX9tO1lCA6iXfqm2uW8/ Zdhc1BSNiI7mQk9UqjBVr6vmWmjt+8KhdZ4b/wkGamOS34yMgdNwwT/ne32ng5KciVq5 /KzBsLb/9J1pbljuo6HjzfJPB79FddJb0kAXyqB8rHIyBlAES9MsdvvmFwjM0Uf8OGSO Grcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.99.71 with SMTP id eo7mr404290lbb.84.1338485549076; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.99.164 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:32:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2E9D8528-720F-4C35-B047-2887C914CC4D@my.gd> References: <2E9D8528-720F-4C35-B047-2887C914CC4D@my.gd> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:32:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:32:30 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > As a side note and in case you were considering, I strongly advise against Linux + fuse ZFS. > Yes I agree; as far as I understand ZFS in Linux is still in testing and in any case not part of the Linux kernel which means dramatic performance degredation, like trying to use Firewire (IEEE1394) on any thing other then a Mac, Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 17:35:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442931065675 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B93B78FC0A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 May 2012 17:35:42 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-226-103.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.226.103] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 31 May 2012 19:35:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+pKKtnJX+ppDfsXBHXeaPD9TVS+g7N22PPmrTDTK l17pNlvASadki0 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:35:19 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120531193519.577967fb.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4FA3C7A1.6040908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4FA3C7A1.6040908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__31_May_2012_19_35_19_+0200_JKa9PTIG91fdiufs" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: editors/libreoffice:internal build errors: ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/vcl/prj X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:35:50 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__31_May_2012_19_35_19_+0200_JKa9PTIG91fdiufs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:12:17 +0200 "Hartmann, O." wrote: HO> I found myself incapable of rebuilding/updating editors/libreoffice HO> on ALL FreeBSD 9-STABLE and FreeBSD 10-CURRENT (amd64) platforms HO> with the very same error message as shown below. I ran into the same issue on my 9-STABLE box at home today. If I follow the steps provides in the error message it compiles a bit further and gives the exact same error message some modules later. Anyhow I stepped through them and finally got another error message: <---snip---> [ build CUT ] lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro R=3D/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work && S=3D$R/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2 && O=3D$S/solver/unxfbsd.pro && W=3D$S/workdir/unxfbsd.pro && mkdir -p $W/CppunitTest/ && (LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D"$O/lib":$O/lib/sqlite DBGSV_ERROR_OUT=3Dshell STAR_RESOURCEPATH=3D$O/bin/ $O/bin/cppunit/cppunittester $W/LinkTarget/CppunitTest/libtest_lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.so --headless --protector unoexceptionprotector.so unoexceptionprotector "-env:CONFIGURATION_LAYERS=3Dxcsxcu:file://$O/xml/registry" "-env:UNO_TYPES=3D file://$O/bin/udkapi.rdb file://$O/bin/types.rdb" "-env:UNO_SERVICES=3Dfile://$O/xml/ure/services.rdb file://$O/xml/component/lotuswordpro/util/lwpfilter.component file://$O/xml/configmgr.component file://$O/xml/ucb1.component file://$O/xml/ucpfile1.component" -env:URE_INTERNAL_LIB_DIR=3Dfile://$O/lib -env:LO_LIB_DIR=3Dfile://$O/lib > $W/CppunitTest/lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.test.log 2>&1 ||=20 (cat $W/CppunitTest/lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.test.log && echo; echo "Error: a unit test failed, please do one of:"; echo; echo "export DEBUGCPPUNIT=3DTRUE # for exception catching"; echo "export GDBCPPUNITTRACE=3D\"gdb --args\" # for interactive debugging"; echo "export VALGRIND=3Dmemcheck # for memory checking" ; echo "and retry." && false)) Abort trap (core dumped) File tested,Test Result,Execution Time (ms) file:///usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/lotuswo= rdpro/qa/cppunit/data/pass/A14.lwp,Signal 11 during cups initialization called, ignoring cups Error: a unit test failed, please do one of: export DEBUGCPPUNIT=3DTRUE # for exception catching export GDBCPPUNITTRACE=3D"gdb --args" # for interactive debugging export VALGRIND=3Dmemcheck # for memory checking and retry. gmake: *** [/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/workdir/unxfb= sd.pro/CppunitTest/lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.test] Error 1 <---snip---> The mysterious thing is that I have a nearly identical box at the office running 9-STABLE and there libreoffice compiles fine. It only differs in two hardware components: CPU is core2 at home and core5i at the office. RAM is 4gb at home and 8gb at the office. System on both is clean installed and updated 9-STABLE. So maybe this is a memory/cpu issue? Regards, Jens --=20 31. Wonnemond 2012, 19:29 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de I can resist anything but temptation. --Signature=_Thu__31_May_2012_19_35_19_+0200_JKa9PTIG91fdiufs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJPx6vsAAoJED2+SXzzbciGOacM/i6INSsrrhJYr0bEL5f1Swvh srWve+HCIXmhwuKaiFBpF7xMZ1YKbpcBT2mfaJTdRqxpD9AnSFttfS4IM5+U4SDY xzeu0lTSLdGP5dw1lzMj5LmKmF0gXsdPM3iGr3pi1nWh0lQZMrgp2A/O5tvMefAQ IHCPyacV3FnITL2KqYBgMvtaRGKtX+dIBXaSc8wvOg4rmtyzG2etuBWTj2bp6NhW luqjN4xmISpoDDwpVLOi74/YM8/q78bxVC413s4614CTTMpy0JO8Ec8CFU92SZfx 7n7EDfe8X+HHDcw9S7A/3lKjn4kLqKUn677pHNx5QTmbdlUqNrYsx/FK94t219Ca 8B46bKXlJYdbBbY6FQyFmVu0tRZUfSXeSztAGc31LhaMfGL8jyG9GMrh4QIokoB0 TP51IQWlouHhq/vYFTrPCSFvPHFSRQ7c0XlL/jlCSxrVZUo6Jf0RCZ/DyNwtheMu ax2d4v6RY46ZshAqMpaVsjaM3Zts3xH+wJprPknFOuDNknGzcGvgB+mpn+qCtB1m EssoQQdCwWH+NDifVq1V =c9L+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__31_May_2012_19_35_19_+0200_JKa9PTIG91fdiufs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 17:47:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE85106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6D8FC0C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=KPBD4n5vtYnRPwlK7NvLmB+qsYBTK0Pi9fYdaxvPhOg=; b=oYfZVcgDAoHjoWuc/6g74mMhBMP8m25ost1ZyNgQcsnYTOxQ0jSceAVWY20GwYfSuKI44aeSj9KiPvdKMP9XTtq0lNbi8vJTxmJow0ttmGp/Ib2zJddIEkEqc3O/jEJU; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sa9Sj-00061r-Fd; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:47:10 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338486419-26372-26371/5/14; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:46:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:46:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:47:11 -0000 I'm doing this with HP heads, LSI SAS adapters, and http://www.dataonstorage.com/ JBODs. Note: the DataOn JBODs are very, very hard to get right now because these are really rebadged LSI devices and LSI sold this division to NetApp, who promptly shut it down to prevent people like us from making these types of storage backends. I don't know of anyone else who has stepped up to build similar devices using LSI parts. http://www.netapp.com/us/company/news/news-rel-20110509-263500.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:24:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD27106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB688FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VIOfCR050095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 31 May 2012 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: Oscar Hodgson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q4VIOfCR050095 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:24:48 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012, Oscar Hodgson wrote: > The subject is pretty much the question. Perhaps there's a better > place to be asking this question ... > > We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD > pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays > with ZFS. In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications > of people actually doing this. External JBODs would be running 24 to > 48TB each, roughly. There would be a couple of units. The pizza > boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have > 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. > > Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. I've set > up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for > other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. > > Observations would be appreciated. > mc: real memory = 120259084288 (114688 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 64 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 4 package(s) x 16 core(s) mc> zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT disk-1 14.5T 4.95T 9.55T 34% 1.00x ONLINE - disk-2 270G 297M 270G 0% 1.00x ONLINE - disk-1, RAIDz1, uses Hitachi 4TB drives. iirc: real memory = 68719476736 (65536 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 32 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 16 core(s) iirc> zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT disk-1 18.1T 6.70T 11.4T 36% 1.00x ONLINE - disk-2 5.44T 3.05G 5.43T 0% 1.00x ONLINE - disk-1, RAIDz1, uses a bunch of 2TB drives I have another storage server named bd3 that has a RAIDz2 array of 2.5T drives (11 of them, IIRC) but it is presently powered down for maintenance. btw: real memory = 25769803776 (24576 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 12 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 6 core(s) x 2 SMT threads btw> zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT disk-1 9.06T 97.3G 8.97T 1% 1.00x ONLINE - disk-2 9.06T 5.13T 3.93T 56% 1.00x ONLINE - Those are smaller RAIDz1 arrays of 1TB and 2TB drives, IIRC. I also have three other systems, over clocked to 4GHz with 16GB of RAM and presently powered off, each with 3 or 4 2TB disks RAIDz1. None of these systems have external arrays. The storage systems use common technologies, such as NFS, to export their space but their primary mission is manipulating (sort-of) big data and crypto attacks, though one is being converted to a Hadoop node for experimentation. I have only had four issues over the past year and a half: 1) It is important to keep your ZFS patches up to date and the firmware in you controllers up to date. Failure to do this results in a => :( 2) Under heavy I/O my systems freeze for a few seconds. I haven't looked into why but they are completely unresponsive. Note I am also using compressed volumes (gzip), which puts a substantual load on the kernel. 3) I have had a number of disk failures -- not too many and not too few. These are merely an annoyance with no loss of data. 4) In two systems I use OCZ Revo drives. After several months of operating they go Tango Uniform, requiring a system boot where they return from the dead. None of my other SSD technologies exhibit the same problem. 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[88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r2sm8664406wif.7.2012.05.31.11.26.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 31 May 2012 11:26:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> In-Reply-To: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <06FDC7DD-6794-43CB-BAFE-E70DE23DCA7E@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:26:21 +0200 To: Jens Schweikhardt X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn6D9n5g8T8MOsnHYdXILnsC8SZVWFV7+iAL6630n/kWY0DV/wqbMNacEluNSxRDb2O2Zrw Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:29 -0000 On 31 May 2012, at 17:57, Jens Schweikhardt wrot= e: > hello, world\n >=20 > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports >=20 > da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 40.000MB/s transfers > da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) >=20 > and > # diskinfo -v da5 > da5 > 4096 # sectorsize > 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) > 244190646 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > 00A123456789 # Disk ident. >=20 >=20 > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf f= ile. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) >=20 > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever > growing list of >=20 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > umass2: on usbus4 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) > umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) >=20 > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Jens > --=20 > Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ > SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" Logic dictates that you try with GENERIC, see if that works any better ;)= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:26:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFCE106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316948FC17 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4VIQLRM047176; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:26:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC7B7CD.9050204@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:26:21 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 31 May 2012 12:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise ASUS M4A89TD mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:32 -0000 On 05/31/12 05:54, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2012 00:38:46 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> The cd mounts a regular file system ok and audio generally works >> ok -- playing from a file works. > > You're sure it's a normal audio CD? How actually is one supposed > to mount audio CDs? They're _audio_ CD format, no ISO-9660 file > system on them...? By "normal" I mean it plays fine in a regular sound system, and on a windoze box via media player with the same CD player and the direct audio wire not hooked up. >> Successive status requests look like it is progressing through >> the CD just fine. > > Does the CD drive maybe have an earphone connector so you > can test if anything is output? I know most modern drives > don't come with this connector anymore. I'm using the earphones, and they work with mp3 files from disk. Who said anything about "modern"? I thought all CDs came from old junk machines. :-) Novel idea. This cd has one, and I get audio from it. So cdcontrol seems to be controlling operation just fine, there's just no audio getting into the guts of the os. >> The CD does not have any direct to mobo audio wire, only the ATA cable. >> I'm assuming fbsd gets the audio down the ata cable, correct? > > As far as I remember... NO. > > I've been using FreeBSD with working CD audio in the past, > but I always had the wire installed (in many different > constellations, such as with using SCSI drives, using an > individual sound card, or having multiple line-ins on > the main board). _This_ method did always work. Ugh. Mobo: ASUS M4A89TD Pro/USB3 doesn't even have a place to plug in the separate digital audio input cable. At least not that I can identify. Is anyone using this mobo with a CD for audio input? > Just to make sure, check your mixer settings. Yes I know, > it's stupid to emphasize it, but _I_ have been fallen > into that trap already. :-) > > Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 50:50 > Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 > > In _such_ a situation, missing sound is nothing special. How about missing cd????? Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 Mixer igain is currently set to 100:100 Mixer ogain is currently set to 50:50 Recording source: mic I don't see any "cd". Where does that come from? There is a /dev/cd0: ls -l /dev/cd0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 115 May 30 09:29 /dev/cd0 If I try to add "cd" to the list of devices, it claims it's not valid: #mixer +rec cd mixer: unknown recording device: cd usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ... mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ... mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ... devices: vol, pcm, line, mic, mix, rec, igain, ogain rec devices: line, mic, mix What is the source for the "mix" device? I tried upping it to 50% but still no sound. "man snd" shows a boatload of possible bridge drivers, but kldstat only shows a few loaded: %kldstat -v | grep "sound\|snd\|pcm" 252 uaudio/ua_pcm 250 sound 249 pci/snd_hda 248 hdac/snd_hda_pcm 247 pci/snd_via8233 246 pci/snd_ich 245 pci/snd_es137x This mobo has an ALC892 codec. dmesg shows: hdac0: mem 0xfe9bc000-0xfe9bffff irq 25 at device 0.1 on pci5 hdac1: mem 0xfe6f8000-0xfe6fbfff irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0 I also see the following at the end of dmesg: (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,11 (Reserved ASC/ASCQ pair) (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x16 back (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6) failed, increasing minimum CDB size to 10 bytes (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): PLAY AUDIO MSF. CDB: 47 0 0 0 0 0 43 36 0 0 (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (Logical block address out of range) (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): PLAY AUDIO MSF. CDB: 47 0 0 0 2 0 43 36 0 0 (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (Logical block address out of range) Those last four are repeated four five times total, and then: (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): READ SUB-CHANNEL. CDB: 42 2 40 2 0 0 0 0 18 0 (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 (Command sequence error) repeated a number of times. It's not clear to me when they showed up, as pausing, resuming, ejecting, loading, and playing a cd using cdcontrol doesn't seem to be adding any entries. I tried doing kldload snd_atiixp but it didn't seem to make a difference. I also don't have a clue whether or not that is an appropriate bridge driver. But maybe one needs to do something more to get it to actually try to use that bridge driver? > The FreeBSD ATAPI subsystem has been done many changes to > in the recent years. Maybe CD-Audio functionality has been > lost during that way? It's not the first time it's being > discussed on list... hopefully someone can shed some light with the above additional details... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:29:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41FB1065679 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926778FC1F for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VITEnO050592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 31 May 2012 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: Oscar Hodgson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q4VITEnO050592 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:29:19 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012, Oscar Hodgson wrote: > That helps. Thank you. > > This is an academic departmental instructional / research environment. > We had a great relationship with Sun, they provided great > opportunities to put Solaris in front of students. Oracle, not so > much, and the Oracle single-tier support model simply isn't affordable > for this "business" (there's no ROI at the departmental level ). > Solaris is not a viable option. > > FreeBSD looks like the next best available option at the moment, > particularly considering the use of the storage heads as compute > machines. OpenIndiana shows promise. Nexenta has a great product, > but the user community expects more flexibility in software options. > > Is there anything like a list of "supported" (known good) SAS HBA's? > Most of my HBAs are LSI controllers flashed T. I'm fond of the 9211. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:39:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC124106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EA28FC12 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4VId4c8051572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 31 May 2012 11:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3463506553-125945988-1338489544=:48219" X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q4VId4c8051572 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:39:09 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3463506553-125945988-1338489544=:48219 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 31 May 2012, Kaya Saman wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Oscar Hodgson wrote: >> That helps.  Thank you. >> >> This is an academic departmental instructional / research environment. >>  We had a great relationship with Sun, they provided great >> opportunities to put Solaris in front of students.  Oracle, not so >> much, and the Oracle single-tier support model simply isn't affordable >> for this "business" (there's no ROI at the departmental level ). >> Solaris is not a viable option. > > We found Oracle to be the cheapest out of all the solutions we looked > at: Netapp, MSI, et el..... > >> >> FreeBSD looks like the next best available option at the moment, >> particularly considering the use of the storage heads as compute >> machines.  OpenIndiana shows promise.  Nexenta has a great product, >> but the user community expects more flexibility in software options. > > FreeBSD is better then Linux in my opinion though lacking some > software and multimedia functionality that Linux has and not for the > Desktop as it's not as "bleeding edge" as say Fedora 16, however, if > FreeBSD offered Gnome3 and supported my wireless NIC I'd be all over > it like a "bad rash" :-) > >> >> Is there anything like a list of "supported" (known good) SAS HBA's? > > LSI HBA's are really good! > > For my DIY solution at home I used a SuperMicro system board with > non-RAID LSI HBA....... > Similarly: mc => Tyan S8812WGM3NR iirc => Supermicro H8DGi bd3 => Soon another Supermicro H8DGi Others are consumer boards from Gigabyte (preferred). I also have a small collection of Supermicro AOC-USAS2-L8i boards. Generally, I have had no trouble but ESXi 5.0 hated them. For work I looked at two Supermicro 848A chassis with a H8QGL board and 20 3TB disks for two different projects, but they lie in limbo. > It is a similar solution that we will use for our test NAS at work > though we already have a Dell R700 series server. For this setup > however I will need to use an LSI HBA with both internal and external > Mini-SAS ports. > > Instead of Promise we will use NetStor JBOD solutions as they work > with 6Gbps drives and overall give better performance. > >> >> Oscar > > Regards, > > > Kaya > >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: >>> If this is any consellation I run a 36TB cluster using a self built >>> server with a Promise DAS (VessJBOD 1840) using ZFS at home! to >>> support my OpenSource projects and personal files. >>> >>> As for OS take your pick: NexentaStor, FreeBSD, Solaris 11 >>> >>> >>> All capable, of course Solaris has latest version of ZFS but still..... >>> >>> >>> At work we're looking into getting a StorEdge appliance wich will >>> handle up to 140+ TB. >>> >>> >>> I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a >>> FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run.... well how many JBOD's can >>> you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so..... >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Kaya >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Oscar Hodgson wrote: >>>> The subject is pretty much the question.  Perhaps there's a better >>>> place to be asking this question ... >>>> >>>> We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD >>>> pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays >>>> with ZFS.  In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications >>>> of people actually doing this.  External JBODs would be running 24 to >>>> 48TB each, roughly.  There would be a couple of units.  The pizza >>>> boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have >>>> 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. >>>> >>>> Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability.  I've set >>>> up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for >>>> other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. >>>> >>>> Observations would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> Oscar. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --3463506553-125945988-1338489544=:48219-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:49:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2ADD106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7126B8FC12 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4VInpn5047250; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:49:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC7BD4F.20202@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:49:51 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Schweikhardt References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> In-Reply-To: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 31 May 2012 12:49:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:49:52 -0000 On 05/31/12 09:57, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports > > da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 40.000MB/s transfers > da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) > > and > # diskinfo -v da5 > da5 > 4096 # sectorsize > 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) > 244190646 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > 00A123456789 # Disk ident. > > > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) > > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever > growing list of > > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > umass2: on usbus4 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) > umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) > > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? According to the handbook you need all of the following drivers: scbus da pass uhci ohci ehci usb umass Don't know if this helps, but 512K sectorsize on usb 3 seems to work fine here: %diskinfo -v da0 da0 512 # sectorsize 1500301909504 # mediasize in bytes (1.4T) 2930277167 # mediasize in sectors 0 # stripesize 0 # stripeoffset 182401 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. NA05EA2N # Disk ident. dmesg: ugen0.2: at usbus0 umass0: on usbus0 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 400.000MB/s transfers da0: 1430799MB (2930277167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C) Plugging it in adds only da0, da0s1, and ugen0.2 to /dev My disk is bigger than what you're dealing with but not the big sector size; can't say about that difference. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:54:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67643106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phnxcs_rep@lycos.com) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0237.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D798FC0A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by smtpgrave04.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CC317E48B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 03:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DBB3D2226D1 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 03:06:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Panda: scanned! X-Session-Marker: 70686E7863735F726570406C79636F732E636F6D X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1812 Received: from webmail16 (imap-ext [64.98.36.5]) (Authenticated sender: phnxcs_rep@lycos.com) by omf05.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 03:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 70.162.20.183 ([70.162.20.183]) by webmail16 (Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 03:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 03:06:57 +0000 (GMT) From: phnxcs_rep@lycos.com To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1990964589.86293.1338347217728.JavaMail.mail@webmail16> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Webmail X-Originating-IP: [70.162.20.183] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:54:41 -0000 Hello, I am moving away from MS products due to security a= nd stability concerns. Below are the machines I use and would like to= know which version of FreeBSD will work best with each. The computer= s are used at home and away, for e-mail, preparing documents, databases, an= d spredsheets, as well as, web browsing and some begining programing (Perl,= C, HTML, and Assembely I think). Here are the notes on my machi= nes: HP Compaq CQ5300Y MOBO M2N68-LA (Narra5) AMD Sempron LE-1300 2.30GHz Vidio Card NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE= nForce 430 RAM: PC2-6400 MB/sec 2 Gigs RAM HD: WDC W= D32 00AAJS-65M0A SCSI 320 Gig HD Toshiba Satellite A= 205-S5880 Intel Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86 GH Vidi= o Card: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset RAM: 3 Gigs = HD: Toshiba MK2046GSX ATA Both where bought new and are st= ock off the shelf models. Thank you for your fine efforts and yo= ur time in this, Phnxcs_rep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 18:56:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664F4106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDCD8FC1C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F272806A; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4VIuNsT001999; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:56:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:56:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120531205620.344af89b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FC7B7CD.9050204@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FC7B7CD.9050204@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise ASUS M4A89TD mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:56:32 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012 12:26:21 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 05/31/12 05:54, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 31 May 2012 00:38:46 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> The cd mounts a regular file system ok and audio generally works > >> ok -- playing from a file works. > > > > You're sure it's a normal audio CD? How actually is one supposed > > to mount audio CDs? They're _audio_ CD format, no ISO-9660 file > > system on them...? > > By "normal" I mean it plays fine in a regular sound system, and > on a windoze box via media player with the same CD player and > the direct audio wire not hooked up. Okay, just wanted to make sure it's no "Un-CD". :-) > >> Successive status requests look like it is progressing through > >> the CD just fine. > > > > Does the CD drive maybe have an earphone connector so you > > can test if anything is output? I know most modern drives > > don't come with this connector anymore. > > I'm using the earphones, and they work with mp3 files from disk. > Who said anything about "modern"? > I thought all CDs came from old junk machines. :-) > Novel idea. This cd has one, and I get audio from it. > So cdcontrol seems to be controlling operation just fine, > there's just no audio getting into the guts of the os. Good, this is a good way through the disgnostic steps. It proves that the device actually plays CD audio (which we expected, but now we're sure). Problem remaining: That sound doesn't make it to the sound card (resp. its implementation in the board's chipset). > >> The CD does not have any direct to mobo audio wire, only the ATA cable. > >> I'm assuming fbsd gets the audio down the ata cable, correct? > > > > As far as I remember... NO. > > > > I've been using FreeBSD with working CD audio in the past, > > but I always had the wire installed (in many different > > constellations, such as with using SCSI drives, using an > > individual sound card, or having multiple line-ins on > > the main board). _This_ method did always work. > > Ugh. > Mobo: > ASUS M4A89TD Pro/USB3 > doesn't even have a place to plug in the separate digital audio input cable. > At least not that I can identify. This functionality is not present on modern boards anymore. Also note it's not digital. It's analog. GND plus two channels. Audio transmission using the 40/80 pin (P)ATA cable would have been digital. Still, there _is_ a way of a workaround which is so ugly and partially stupid that I fear to mention it. You need a cable, 2 x 3.5mm stereo jack, which you connect from the front connector of the CD drive to the line-in connector on the back of your machine (the main baord's line-in connector, typically colored light blue). I didn't say anything! :-) > > Just to make sure, check your mixer settings. Yes I know, > > it's stupid to emphasize it, but _I_ have been fallen > > into that trap already. :-) > > > > Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 > > Mixer pcm is currently set to 50:50 > > Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 > > > > In _such_ a situation, missing sound is nothing special. > > How about missing cd????? > > Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer igain is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer ogain is currently set to 50:50 > Recording source: mic > > I don't see any "cd". Where does that come from? Okay, this means the mixer doesn't even have a CD audio mixer channel. If I remember correctly, this channel is directly associated to the internal audio connector which is _not_ present in your system. > There is a /dev/cd0: > > ls -l /dev/cd0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 115 May 30 09:29 /dev/cd0 > > If I try to add "cd" to the list of devices, it claims it's not valid: > > #mixer +rec cd > mixer: unknown recording device: cd > usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ... > mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ... > mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ... > devices: vol, pcm, line, mic, mix, rec, igain, ogain > rec devices: line, mic, mix The /dev/cd0 device is the "SCSI translated" device which does perform the same purpose as /dev/acd0, except that it's not using the ATAPI "command set", but the SCSI "command set". See "man 4 cd" and "man 4 acd" for comparison. > What is the source for the "mix" device? > I tried upping it to 50% but still no sound. If I remember correctly, "mix" is the combined input of all input channels. > "man snd" shows a boatload of possible bridge drivers, but kldstat only shows a few loaded: > > %kldstat -v | grep "sound\|snd\|pcm" > 252 uaudio/ua_pcm > 250 sound > 249 pci/snd_hda > 248 hdac/snd_hda_pcm > 247 pci/snd_via8233 > 246 pci/snd_ich > 245 pci/snd_es137x > > This mobo has an ALC892 codec. > dmesg shows: > > hdac0: mem 0xfe9bc000-0xfe9bffff irq 25 at device 0.1 on pci5 > > hdac1: mem 0xfe6f8000-0xfe6fbfff irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0 You can also check the content of /dev/sndstat. It will look like this: % cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play) Your output will list your actual devices. It's okay to assume the the proper drivers have been loaded. > I also see the following at the end of dmesg: > > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,11 (Reserved ASC/ASCQ pair) > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x16 back > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6) failed, increasing minimum CDB size to 10 bytes > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): PLAY AUDIO MSF. CDB: 47 0 0 0 0 0 43 36 0 0 > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (Logical block address out of range) > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): PLAY AUDIO MSF. CDB: 47 0 0 0 2 0 43 36 0 0 > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (Logical block address out of range) > > Those last four are repeated four five times total, and then: > > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): READ SUB-CHANNEL. CDB: 42 2 40 2 0 0 0 0 18 0 > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 (Command sequence error) > > repeated a number of times. It's not clear to me when they > showed up, as pausing, resuming, ejecting, loading, and > playing a cd using cdcontrol doesn't seem to be adding > any entries. They appear when trying to access the CD drive via "SCSI commands", i. e. using /dev/cd0. > I tried doing > > kldload snd_atiixp > > but it didn't seem to make a difference. >From the manpage: "The snd_atiixp bridge driver allows the generic audio driver, sound(4), to attach to ATI IXP audio devices." Not sure if that applies. Do you have an ATI IXP audio device? > I also don't have a clue whether or not that is an appropriate bridge driver. > But maybe one needs to do something more to get it to actually > try to use that bridge driver? As I said, I think the system did already load the correct driver. If you load sound.ko, the correct driver will be automatically chosen. The laternative is to specify the correct driver in /boot/loader.conf or compile it into your kernel (if you're running a non-GENERIC kernel). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 20:02:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8476106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3F68FC17 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so1571030bkv.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7vpwD/MzhYtwlkbPf6jdwDtshvCnXVgNZQDAWS5k12k=; b=x5JBw01KrGEnPtemrRUwTRPm8w+mkRXsJatRK+M8z2nrWgwozTv872cmRRQ5jbigmy u790erGqshOEVFJiXUYAaMDkEICjnYNzFJp3rCBL6fMn8HoC+1WDBs8QF8ud0mVaQIuJ iomIpVuyBFMFY3xVzS01T3kM9plo7J7hUCzVVBs/prdC+ZKJAMIexcCdjl0tcpm0ZhCb YwOafSHDTzQKpXg5PYu0BrhHzA2SI3orhxFARieymELbs24zdPIgKAkmsdNj2xBvTEvG kGnT1Wi6BGbjjHP6RRYqn9NDr5u/ivsUpZBFJ0k0r/Uyv37T+PkV8++4gnIPhRU+Y2RO oEUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.23 with SMTP id z23mr2403588bkw.71.1338494527178; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.200 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2E9D8528-720F-4C35-B047-2887C914CC4D@my.gd> References: <2E9D8528-720F-4C35-B047-2887C914CC4D@my.gd> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:02:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Oscar Hodgson To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Kaya Saman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:02:08 -0000 The thought never crossed my mind. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > As a side note and in case you were considering, I strongly advise against Linux + fuse ZFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 20:43:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA2E106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB99B8FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4VKhRZ8047578; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:43:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC7D7EF.3010304@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:43:27 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FC7B7CD.9050204@dreamchaser.org> <20120531205620.344af89b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120531205620.344af89b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 31 May 2012 14:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise ASUS M4A89TD mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:43:38 -0000 On 05/31/12 12:56, Polytropon wrote: > This functionality is not present on modern boards anymore. > Also note it's not digital. It's analog. GND plus two > channels. Audio transmission using the 40/80 pin (P)ATA > cable would have been digital. Thanks for the correction, I thought I knew that. doh. > Still, there _is_ a way of a workaround which is so ugly and > partially stupid that I fear to mention it. > > You need a cable, 2 x 3.5mm stereo jack, which you connect > from the front connector of the CD drive to the line-in > connector on the back of your machine (the main baord's > line-in connector, typically colored light blue). > > I didn't say anything! :-) Quality sucks though. > Okay, this means the mixer doesn't even have a CD audio > mixer channel. If I remember correctly, this channel is > directly associated to the internal audio connector which > is _not_ present in your system. You mean a cd mixer channel for digital audio only shows up if there is a physical analog audio input??? If that's the problem, is there any way to force it? Otherwise, I'm doa without some kind of kernal patch? It's hard to imagine no-one else has had this problem... > The /dev/cd0 device is the "SCSI translated" device which does > perform the same purpose as /dev/acd0, except that it's not > using the ATAPI "command set", but the SCSI "command set". > > See "man 4 cd" and "man 4 acd" for comparison. No acd in 9.0. But I see what you're saying. > You can also check the content of /dev/sndstat.. > % cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play). %cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: (play) pcm1: (play/rec) default pcm2: (play/rec) pcm3: (play) pcm4: (play) I presume the "...Analog> (rec)" on yours is the missing analog input. Hmmm. Neither mine nor yours shows any "...Digital> (rec). Should I expect one if things were working properly? Probably not, if the inclusion of cd is just triggered by the analog input, and the card doesn't actually have a physical digital input. >> (cd0:ata2:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 (Command sequence error) ... > They appear when trying to access the CD drive via "SCSI commands", > i. e. using /dev/cd0. ok, so user generated error by trying to use cd0 instead of cd someplace. >> From the manpage: "The snd_atiixp bridge driver allows the > generic audio driver, sound(4), to attach to ATI IXP audio > devices." Not sure if that applies. Do you have an ATI IXP > audio device? Don't think so. No "ixp" in dmesg The two audio dmesg entries are hdac0: mem 0xfe9bc000-0xfe9bfff hdac1: mem 0xfe6f8000-0xfe6fbfff ir I think the first one is the main one, and the second one is a secondary hd output. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 22:14:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A2D106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 22:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82E98FC12 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 22:14:15 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=IVbPvqwAxPkRr6PzoduHLWkDTVaZ1Lo9Awwa23TM284= c=1 sm=0 a=nlvYiwPiZ3YA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=0wQVMjYSAAAA:8 a=Fr8x0r-PAAAA:8 a=i_6xV-9NJ9igm0yXzucA:9 a=hWxbGAk4Mo4A:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:35773] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id FC/6B-19031-03DE7CF4; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:14:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Gary Aitken , Jens Schweikhardt Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:14:16 -0000 On 05/31/12 09:57, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports > da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 40.000MB/s transfers > da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) > and > # diskinfo -v da5 > da5 > 4096 # sectorsize > 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) > 244190646 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > 00A123456789 # Disk ident. > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever > growing list of > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > umass2: on usbus4 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) > umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? Gary Aitken responded: > According to the handbook you need all of the following drivers: > scbus da pass uhci ohci ehci usb umass > Don't know if this helps, but 512K sectorsize on usb 3 seems to work fine here: > %diskinfo -v da0 > da0 > 512 # sectorsize > 1500301909504 # mediasize in bytes (1.4T) > 2930277167 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 182401 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > NA05EA2N # Disk ident. > dmesg: > ugen0.2: at usbus0 > umass0: on usbus0 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 > umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 400.000MB/s transfers > da0: 1430799MB (2930277167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C) > Plugging it in adds only da0, da0s1, and ugen0.2 to /dev > My disk is bigger than what you're dealing with but not the big sector size; > can't say about that difference. I think you also need xhci driver in kernel config. xhci is for USB 3.0. I have a Western Digital My Book Essentials 3 TB USB 3.0 hard drive, and that works with FreeBSD and Linux, but not NetBSD. As far as I know, Linux and FreeBSD are the only open-source OSes that support USB 3.0. But I don't think the motherboard supports directly booting from this USB 3.0. This USB 3.0 hard drive is not recognized when plugged in to USB 2.0 port on the motherboard, but is recognized when plugged in to USB 2.0 port on a USB bracket connected to USB 2.0 headers on the motherboard. This would be useful with NetBSD, and possibly for booting with GRUB2. That Western Digital 3.0 TB USB 3.0 was partitioned with one MBR partition, formatted for NTFS. I needed the System Rescue CD (http://sysresccd.org/) to copy the software files from the CD, and to migrate MBR partition scheme to GPT. Then I deleted the big NTFS partition and added my partitions. FreeBSD sees these partitions as /dev/da0p1, /dev/da0p2 and so on. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 22:16:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DAE106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 22:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FDF8FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 22:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559EC27A6D for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:16:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q4VMGSAY002757 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:16:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:16:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120601001628.db4b8c44.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FC7D7EF.3010304@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FC7B7CD.9050204@dreamchaser.org> <20120531205620.344af89b.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FC7D7EF.3010304@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise ASUS M4A89TD mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:16:31 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:43:27 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 05/31/12 12:56, Polytropon wrote: > > Still, there _is_ a way of a workaround which is so ugly and > > partially stupid that I fear to mention it. > > > > You need a cable, 2 x 3.5mm stereo jack, which you connect > > from the front connector of the CD drive to the line-in > > connector on the back of your machine (the main baord's > > line-in connector, typically colored light blue). > > > > I didn't say anything! :-) > > Quality sucks though. Impedance and level mismatch would be the typical reason for this. But basically, it's not _much_ worse than using an internal analog connection. > > Okay, this means the mixer doesn't even have a CD audio > > mixer channel. If I remember correctly, this channel is > > directly associated to the internal audio connector which > > is _not_ present in your system. > > You mean a cd mixer channel for digital audio only shows up > if there is a physical analog audio input??? Oh god, I hope not! > If that's the problem, is there any way to force it? I really have no idea how digital audio output is actually represented in the mixer. The "mixer" program will allow you to manipulate the levels of channels that are reported by the mixer driver (which in turn accesses the sound hardware); if the "sound card" doesn't report to have CD audio, the corresponding item won't be available. Additionally, I'm not sure if "forcing" a CD audio output (no idea how, maybe by changing the driver's source code?) could affect digital CD audio because even though they serve the same purpose, they are not related "in wires". > Otherwise, I'm doa without some kind of kernal patch? > It's hard to imagine no-one else has had this problem... As I said, that topic has been on this list before. A possible way would be to use cdparanoia or something like that to extract the data digitally, and then play it; "then" also means "in a pipe". No real solution, I admit. > > The /dev/cd0 device is the "SCSI translated" device which does > > perform the same purpose as /dev/acd0, except that it's not > > using the ATAPI "command set", but the SCSI "command set". > > > > See "man 4 cd" and "man 4 acd" for comparison. > > No acd in 9.0. But I see what you're saying. Correct - the ATAPI subsystem has been merged into the "new" system where /dev/cd0 is used. Still there seem to be problems regarding cdcontrol (which accesses the ATAPI "command set", if I remember correctly), as well as the direct access to audio CD tracks, such as the formerly present /dev/acd0t01 = track 1. > > You can also check the content of /dev/sndstat.. > > % cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: (play/rec) default > pcm1: (rec) > pcm2: (play). > > %cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: (play) > pcm1: (play/rec) default > pcm2: (play/rec) > pcm3: (play) > pcm4: (play) Do you maybe also have multiple mixer devices associated? Check % ls /dev/mixer* and you can see their individual states with % mixer -f /dev/mixer0 % mixer -f /dev/mixer1 % mixer -f /dev/mixer2 and so on. > I presume the "...Analog> (rec)" on yours is the missing analog input. There are in fact several analog input channels, such as the microphone (3.5mm mono connector) and line in (3.5mm stereo connector). Additionally there are connectors on the front of the box. In other cases where I've seen such configurations, they correspond to different mixer channels or even to different mixers. I'm _not_ sure I've seen an internal CD audio connector in this particular machine, at least I'm not intendedly using one. For comparison, I have 3 mixer devices with those entries: % mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 95:95 Mixer pcm is currently set to 50:50 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 <=== shoule be the one Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 Mixer monitor is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic % mixer -f /dev/mixer1 Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 Mixer monitor is currently set to 75:75 Recording source: monitor % mixer -f /dev/mixer2 Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 > Hmmm. Neither mine nor yours shows any "...Digital> (rec). > Should I expect one if things were working properly? > Probably not, if the inclusion of cd is just triggered by the analog input, > and the card doesn't actually have a physical digital input. The CD audio digital output should go "through" the (P)ATA cable (40/80 pin flat wire) or the SATA connector (if it's a newer one. I really have no imagination how this works. > >> From the manpage: "The snd_atiixp bridge driver allows the > > generic audio driver, sound(4), to attach to ATI IXP audio > > devices." Not sure if that applies. Do you have an ATI IXP > > audio device? > > Don't think so. No "ixp" in dmesg > The two audio dmesg entries are > > hdac0: mem 0xfe9bc000-0xfe9bfff > hdac1: mem 0xfe6f8000-0xfe6fbfff ir > > I think the first one is the main one, and the second one is a > secondary hd output. I think this is possible. The manual "man 4 snd_hda" explicitely mentions your ATI SB600 device. For comparison: % dmesg | grep ^hda hdac0: mem 0xbfffc000-0xbfffffff at device 1.0 on pci128 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142 hdac0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: HDA Codec #0: VIA VT1708_8 % dmesg | grep ^pcm pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 Mine also uses the snd_hda driver. But I'm on 8.2-STABLE here. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 23:03:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251AC106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33758FC0A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q4VN3A4a048045 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:03:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:03:10 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 31 May 2012 17:03:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:03:11 -0000 I've got an HP printer directly connected to the local network. hp-probe finds it: #hp-probe -bnet HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.1 ... Device URI Model Name ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------ -------- hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g?ip=aa.bb.cc.dd Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g HP4356E6 Found 1 printer(s) on the 'net' bus. However, hp-setup and hp-uri refuse to use it: #hp-makeuri -ldebug aa.bb.cc.dd HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) Device URI Creation Utility ver. 5.0 ... hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying IP address aa.bb.cc.dd hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Not found. hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying serial number aa.bb.cc.dd hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: usb hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: par error: Device not found When the gui comes up, only the USB option is enabled. There is no parallel port active and no wireless on the box, but at least the network connection should be available. The probe which succeeds takes several seconds, but the hp-setup gui and makeuri fail immediately, and the missing ability to set the network discovery option in the gui lead me to believe it's not even trying the ip addr. Anyone with experience setting these guys up have any advice? Alternately, is there anything other than a special lp filter really needed, and if not, any suggestions on the best one to use? I looked at apsfilter but the installation SETUP driver options didn't seem to include this printer. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 23:32:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86352106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [63.229.207.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8268FC0C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB4E3AE for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:32:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:32:42 -0500 Message-Id: <20120531231411.M27823@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <4FC65661.2020709@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120530165017.M37727@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <4FC65661.2020709@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.2 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Subject: Re: Corrections to: unable to upgrade to mysql55-server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:32:45 -0000 On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:18:25 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote > On 30/05/2012 17:57, Gene wrote: > > I've been trying to install the port databases/mysql55-server, updating from > > the older 5.4 version. mysql55-client installed just fine. However, when I > > "make" the '-server' port I get the errors shown in the first listing below. > > So I tried > > "portmanager databases/mysql55-server -l -u" > > (latest version of portmanager - 0.4.1_9). > > Did you update to databases/mysql55-client before trying this? > mysqlXX-server depends on mysqlXX-client for the libmysql shared library > and related header files. > > Generally to switch from mysql 5.4 to mysql 5.5 you'ld do something like > this: > > 0) Backups, fasting, ritual cleansing, sacrifice of black > cockerel, you know the drill. > > 1) Stop MySQL -- plus any web servers or whatever that access mysql. > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server stop > # ... > > 2) If there is any mention of MYSQL related variables in > /etc/make.conf, particularly those referring to version > numbers, comment them out. > > 3) Upgrade mysql-client: > > # portmaster -o databases/mysql55-client 'mysql-client-5.4.*' > > 4) Upgrade mysql-server: > > # portmaster -o databases/mysql55-server 'mysql-server-5.4.*' > > 5) If you've got them installed, upgrade mysql-scripts: > > # portmaster -o databases/mysql55-scripts 'mysql-scripts-5.4.*' > > 6) Upgrade anything that links against libmysql.so -- you can use > sysutils/bsdadminscripts which contains a handy script to tell > you what applications on your system are affected. Or, for the > lazy and those with excess spare time: > > # portmaster -r databases/mysql55-client > > (but this will do far more work than necessary) > > 7) Restart mysql and run the supplied program to update schemas etc. > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start > # mysql_upgrade > > 8) Restart any applications that use mysql. > > 9) Test. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Actually, I did just as above except using portmanager.. Tried deleting the two packages & tried again with portmaster. Still no luck. So I deleted them again and installed from packages. mysql-client-5.4.. installed lib/mysql/ libmysqlclient.so.18, but mysql-server-5.4... wanted lib/mysql/ libmysqlclient.so.16. Finally, after giving ritual sacrifice to the backup gods, I went to the ZFS snapshots and just restored directories wholesale and everything is working again albeit with previous versions of mysql (and postfix which also gave me fits) but with the package database entries now missing (for some strange reason, I hadn't been backing up that directory. You'd think I'd learn - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Still wonder what went wrong though.... Seems every time I try to update any ports, things get broken, ports don't compile, etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum. I've got to be doing something wrong. Incidentally, portmaster, when updating mysql54-server reliably rebooted the system. Hmmm.... Anyone know if there is a good memory test utility that can be run on FBSD AMD64? Anyway - thanks for the assistance... Gene > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 23:33:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDD1106564A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07E98FC18 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3W3Pww2NvGz1Mf; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:27:19 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Dennis Glatting Message-ID: <70D99F583BF63C05BB39CCAF@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:33:46 -0000 --As of May 31, 2012 11:24:41 AM -0700, Dennis Glatting is alleged to have said: > 2) Under heavy I/O my systems freeze for a few seconds. I haven't looked > into why but they are completely unresponsive. Note I am also using > compressed volumes (gzip), which puts a substantual load on the kernel. --As for the rest, it is mine. I'm not using as huge a dataset, but I was seeing this behavior as well when I first set my box up. What was happening was that ZFS was caching *lots* of writes, and then would dump them all to disk at once, during which time the computer was completely occupied with the disk I/O. The solution (suggested from ) for me was: vfs.zfs.txg.timeout="5" in loader.conf. That only allows it to cache writes for 5 seconds, instead of the default 30. This appears to be the default in the latest versions of FreeBSD, so if you are running an upgraded 9, ignore me. ;) (But check the page linked above: There are other suggestions to try.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 23:59:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C431065679 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73758FC08 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:59:25 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=IVbPvqwAxPkRr6PzoduHLWkDTVaZ1Lo9Awwa23TM284= c=1 sm=0 a=iHZnyJ6tsWsA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=0wQVMjYSAAAA:8 a=FP58Ms26AAAA:8 a=_ctWjzdLAAAA:8 a=h8fspT4YW0PMSRp5WpEA:9 a=9VHdfI444boA:10 a=hWxbGAk4Mo4A:10 a=Jmmnj0d_4h1SxsiJ:21 a=S5UpRm3l0uXYO4pU:21 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:60168] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id F7/8D-19031-BD508CF4; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:59:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:59:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:59:26 -0000 > From Gary Aitken : > I've got an HP printer directly connected to the local network. > hp-probe finds it: > #hp-probe -bnet > HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) > Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.1 > ... > Device URI Model Name > ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------ -------- > hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g?ip=aa.bb.cc.dd Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g HP4356E6 > Found 1 printer(s) on the 'net' bus. > However, hp-setup and hp-uri refuse to use it: > #hp-makeuri -ldebug aa.bb.cc.dd > HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) > Device URI Creation Utility ver. 5.0 > ... > hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying IP address aa.bb.cc.dd > hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Not found. > hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying serial number aa.bb.cc.dd > hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: usb > hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: par > error: Device not found > When the gui comes up, only the USB option is enabled. There is no parallel port active and no wireless on the box, but at least the network connection should be available. > The probe which succeeds takes several seconds, but the hp-setup gui and makeuri fail immediately, and the missing ability to set the network discovery option in the gui lead me to believe it's not even trying the ip addr. > Anyone with experience setting these guys up have any advice? > Alternately, is there anything other than a special lp filter really needed, and if not, any suggestions on the best one to use? I looked at apsfilter but the installation SETUP driver options didn't seem to include this printer. > Thanks I have an HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, and hplip/hp-setup in FreeBSD finds the printer all right when connected by Ethernet, but then fails on installing the required binary plugin. Printer is not detected at all when connected by USB. NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386 with hplip 3.11.1 built from pkgsrc-wip couldn't find the printer on Ethernet, next step is to login to wireless router, and/or check the dmesg.boot, and then use the IP address found therefrom. pkgsrc-wip URL: http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/ pkgsrc URL: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html I wonder if I should have bought a printer, non-HP, with wireless, as long as it also had USB and Ethernet capability. Seeing security advisories for FreeBSD, my next move might be to update the source tree by csup, then rebuild (RELENG_9: 9.0-STABLE) for amd64 and build for i386 as well. Then I would have the possibility of building wine from the ports, and I could try the MS-Windows software. I also need to update the other ports, including but not limited to hplip and dependencies. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 00:34:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C80A106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241D48FC19 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q510YCut080523; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: Daniel Staal In-Reply-To: <70D99F583BF63C05BB39CCAF@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> References: <70D99F583BF63C05BB39CCAF@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:34:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1338510852.77553.1.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q510YCut080523 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:34:17 -0000 On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 19:27 -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of May 31, 2012 11:24:41 AM -0700, Dennis Glatting is alleged to have > said: > > > 2) Under heavy I/O my systems freeze for a few seconds. I haven't looked > > into why but they are completely unresponsive. Note I am also using > > compressed volumes (gzip), which puts a substantual load on the kernel. > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > I'm not using as huge a dataset, but I was seeing this behavior as well > when I first set my box up. What was happening was that ZFS was caching > *lots* of writes, and then would dump them all to disk at once, during > which time the computer was completely occupied with the disk I/O. > > The solution (suggested from ) for > me was: > vfs.zfs.txg.timeout="5" > Was already set: mc# sysctl vfs.zfs.txg.timeout vfs.zfs.txg.timeout: 5 > in loader.conf. That only allows it to cache writes for 5 seconds, instead > of the default 30. This appears to be the default in the latest versions > of FreeBSD, so if you are running an upgraded 9, ignore me. ;) (But check > the page linked above: There are other suggestions to try.) > > Daniel T. Staal > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 01:24:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2CC106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 01:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F10F8FC08 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 01:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q511OME1085425; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:24:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q511OM9A085422; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:24:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:24:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Victor Sudakov In-Reply-To: <20120531170035.GA29456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: References: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120531170035.GA29456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 May 2012 19:24:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:24:23 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >>> >>> I have installed 9.0-RELEASE on a SSD drive with the following >>> tweaking so far: >>> >>> 1. tmpmfs="YES" (WRKDIRPREFIX etc will go there too). >>> >>> 2. mount -o noatime >>> >>> 3. tunefs -t enable >>> >>> I have not done any tricky partition alignment, do I really need to? Is >>> anything else advisable? >> >> If it's not aligned, there can be a pretty significant performance >> drop. Please show the output of 'gpart show' on that drive if it's GPT >> (gpart show ada0) or drive and slice if it's MBR/bsdlabel (gpart show >> ada0 && gpart show ada0s1). > > It was created by the "Auto" option of the new FreeBSD installer: > > [sudakov@vas ~] gpart show ada0 > => 34 117231341 ada0 GPT (55G) > 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64k) > 162 111148928 2 freebsd-ufs (53G) > 111149090 5861376 3 freebsd-swap (2.8G) > 117010466 220909 - free - (107M) That is not aligned, either with 4K or 1M: (162*512)/4096 = 20.25 If the performance is good enough, leave it alone. Use # diskinfo -tv /dev/ada0p2 to get an optimistic version, or do some in-depth benchmarking with benchmarks/bonnie++. To get it aligned, back up and repartition: (Back up first!) # gpart destroy -F ada0 # gpart create -s gpt ada0 # gpart add -t freebsd-boot -s 512k ada0 # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i1 ada0 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -b 1m -s 53G ada0 # gpart add -t freebsd-swap ada0 That creates a 512k boot partition which allows for growth of the boot code. Then the UFS partition starts at 1M, an even multiple of both 4k and 1M for alignment, and a common semi-standard. Then swap fills out the drive; that could be reduced by giving a -s size if you want to leave that 107M at the end for something else. (gpart's -a option is not used. It isn't needed here, and overrides the -b option in earlier versions of gpart.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 01:39:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9724C106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 01:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533AA8FC08 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 01:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q511dUVY085460; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:39:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q511dU9T085457; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:39:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:39:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jens Schweikhardt In-Reply-To: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 May 2012 19:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:39:31 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2012, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports > > da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 40.000MB/s transfers > da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) > > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) It may not actually be an NTFS filesystem. Try # file -s /dev/da5s1 Much more likely to be a USB problem than something to do with block size. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 02:13:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A83106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 02:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028DE8FC16 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 02:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D367DA70132 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 22:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31332 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2012 02:13:12 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 22502, pid: 9790, t: 0.1781s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Jun 2012 02:13:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4FC82537.2090305@speakeasy.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:13:11 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail4.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: MK_CLANG_IS_CC mis-formed when compiling ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 02:13:20 -0000 I built FrfeeBSD 9 with WITHOUT_CLANG="Yes" When I try to build the net/bwn-firmware-kmod/ I get an error that MK_CLANG_IS_CC is mis-formed. If I define this in make.conf, I get an error that the user may not set this. If I use 'make MK_CLANG_IS_CC="no"' the port compiles. How do I fix this? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 02:13:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F5B106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 02:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162018FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 02:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so2775674obc.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:13:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IBbzoaYBq58K7WMX0JY6Ynp+QVxmhR3MzYu8VoJo98M=; b=LNGrIGUzg1T2K/x1B00kbQBm7d5hrXcYa7o/YZepFGas8/YMjzKu+FJv9GBDll0Kd0 dOSaa/8uBXTahMRuzaLfKAf9oj54eYH+RQZY+CvrWwmTbDRDnZXT62NGC869OhkRsp2Y /2IflpF9maHcHo8joF1R0RQ7s6TKUm8z5my80= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=IBbzoaYBq58K7WMX0JY6Ynp+QVxmhR3MzYu8VoJo98M=; b=gQyUUd7ChHrDUQD3WIiLugaSSDeyvF3mRHXLRilc6fH+smtefowitIKbzvigrKhkyH tt+BMZQRz9LRZO6VRJEgAM8fShKd7nVO3yYvx0ZS12LZD8Ams6BftUPJgp8FJSiY2UYi uQdpiwv8mUdwmAcSrhP08+jGsN4/qprnOYY935E0JdHtZGoJr1u0sCBXZPME/hQAPLNo cMGuuUxKDBX+S4cXsFQBpRwtKTJfb6GgRBcTDVY0XkZNhAQQ5iPQqvaQbPGkqw7hN1rq +QNNotZsyL08pClqhLoRzf7LV7tJR781ZA4LnnXhV/dOQoCxGqhKmHVfyjPTLTDdrCm+ 1PDQ== Received: by 10.182.2.193 with SMTP id 1mr806924obw.46.1338516823663; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:13:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.204.69 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:13:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1990964589.86293.1338347217728.JavaMail.mail@webmail16> References: <1990964589.86293.1338347217728.JavaMail.mail@webmail16> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:13:13 -0700 Message-ID: To: phnxcs_rep@lycos.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlILo+r/dPIs2jhJ5zDha78MvKZYtctQDqy5OK3sxkdBLRPU0qpWcoZoZSbMcolCotmVTCn Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 02:13:44 -0000 On 29 May 2012 20:06, wrote: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hello, > =C2=A0 I am moving away from MS products due to security a nd stability > =C2=A0 concerns. =C2=A0Below are the machines I use and would like to kno= w which > =C2=A0 version of FreeBSD will work best with each. =C2=A0The computer s = are used > =C2=A0 at home and away, for e-mail, preparing documents, databases, an d > =C2=A0 spredsheets, as well as, web browsing and some begining programing > =C2=A0 (Perl, C, HTML, and Assembely I think). I don't know much about the specifics but for a desktop computer I would go with either FreeBSD 9 or PC-BSD (perhaps with the intel kms patch) --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 04:47:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDF2106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE87E8FC08 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ECA5E321; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 06:46:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.629 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.629 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.631, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eGnTSuvo-Hh2; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 06:46:37 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FDEE5E317; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 06:46:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC8497E.9030409@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:47:58 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120502 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Jahnke References: <4FA3C7A1.6040908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120531193519.577967fb.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20120531193519.577967fb.jan0sch@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: editors/libreoffice:internal build errors: ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/vcl/prj X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:47:43 -0000 2012-05-31 19:35, Jens Jahnke skrev: > Hi, > > On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:12:17 +0200 > "Hartmann, O." wrote: > > HO> I found myself incapable of rebuilding/updating editors/libreoffice > HO> on ALL FreeBSD 9-STABLE and FreeBSD 10-CURRENT (amd64) platforms > HO> with the very same error message as shown below. > > I ran into the same issue on my 9-STABLE box at home today. > If I follow the steps provides in the error message it compiles a bit > further and gives the exact same error message some modules later. > Anyhow I stepped through them and finally got another error message: > > <---snip---> > [ build CUT ] lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro > R=/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work&& S=$R/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2 > && O=$S/solver/unxfbsd.pro&& W=$S/workdir/unxfbsd.pro&& mkdir -p > $W/CppunitTest/&& (LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$O/lib":$O/lib/sqlite > DBGSV_ERROR_OUT=shell STAR_RESOURCEPATH=$O/bin/ > $O/bin/cppunit/cppunittester > $W/LinkTarget/CppunitTest/libtest_lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.so > --headless --protector unoexceptionprotector.so unoexceptionprotector > "-env:CONFIGURATION_LAYERS=xcsxcu:file://$O/xml/registry" > "-env:UNO_TYPES= file://$O/bin/udkapi.rdb file://$O/bin/types.rdb" > "-env:UNO_SERVICES=file://$O/xml/ure/services.rdb > file://$O/xml/component/lotuswordpro/util/lwpfilter.component > file://$O/xml/configmgr.component file://$O/xml/ucb1.component > file://$O/xml/ucpfile1.component" > -env:URE_INTERNAL_LIB_DIR=file://$O/lib -env:LO_LIB_DIR=file://$O/lib >> $W/CppunitTest/lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.test.log 2>&1 || > (cat $W/CppunitTest/lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.test.log&& echo; > echo "Error: a unit test failed, please do one of:"; echo; echo "export > DEBUGCPPUNIT=TRUE # for exception catching"; echo "export > GDBCPPUNITTRACE=\"gdb --args\" # for interactive debugging"; echo > "export VALGRIND=memcheck # for memory checking" ; echo "and > retry."&& false)) > > Abort trap (core dumped) File tested,Test > Result,Execution Time (ms) > file:///usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/lotuswordpro/qa/cppunit/data/pass/A14.lwp,Signal > 11 during cups initialization called, ignoring cups > > Error: a unit test failed, please do one of: > > export DEBUGCPPUNIT=TRUE # for exception catching > export GDBCPPUNITTRACE="gdb --args" # for interactive debugging > export VALGRIND=memcheck # for memory checking > and retry. > gmake: *** > [/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/workdir/unxfbsd.pro/CppunitTest/lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro.test] > Error 1 > <---snip---> > > The mysterious thing is that I have a nearly identical box at the office > running 9-STABLE and there libreoffice compiles fine. > It only differs in two hardware components: > CPU is core2 at home and core5i at the office. > RAM is 4gb at home and 8gb at the office. > > System on both is clean installed and updated 9-STABLE. > > So maybe this is a memory/cpu issue? > > Regards, > > Jens > I have the same problem on a 8.2-RELEASE system. I posted it on the ports list. I got an answer and a patch that can be used. Take a look at the archives for the ports list. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 05:24:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AD61067BF2 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF868FC0A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id q515N9MP018777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:23:10 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:23:09 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Oscar Hodgson Message-ID: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 4FC851BD.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4FC851BD.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 05:24:16 -0000 Le 31/05/2012 ? 11:32:33-0400, Oscar Hodgson a écrit > The subject is pretty much the question. Perhaps there's a better > place to be asking this question ... > > We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD > pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD arrays > with ZFS. In perusing the list, I haven't stumbled across indications > of people actually doing this. External JBODs would be running 24 to > 48TB each, roughly. There would be a couple of units. The pizza > boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have > 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. > I've Dell R610 + 48 Go Ram, 2x 6 core + 4 * MD1200 (36*3T + 12*2T) [root@filer ~]# zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT filer 119T 35,4T 83,9T 29% 1.00x ONLINE - [root@filer ~]# Work very fine (I can't say I've long experience because the server is up since just 4 months). The ZFS is very good, easy to manage, very fast. They're two default IMHO : Eat lot of Ram cannot synchronize two zpool automaticaly like HammerFS Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@jabber.obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: ven 1 jui 2012 07:17:47 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 06:00:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0113B1065677 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 06:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473C18FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 06:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5160Hvg008906 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:00:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5160Hvg008906 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5160Hvg008906; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC85A71.7090206@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:00:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene References: <20120530165017.M37727@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <4FC65661.2020709@FreeBSD.org> <20120531231411.M27823@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <20120531231411.M27823@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8CB8CD9E131433F8FF5AF06D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: Corrections to: unable to upgrade to mysql55-server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:00:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8CB8CD9E131433F8FF5AF06D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/06/2012 00:32, Gene wrote: > Actually, I did just as above except using portmanager.. Tried deleting= the=20 > two packages & tried again with portmaster. Still no luck. So I deleted= them=20 > again and installed from packages. mysql-client-5.4.. installed lib/mys= ql/ > libmysqlclient.so.18, but mysql-server-5.4... wanted lib/mysql/ > libmysqlclient.so.16. Finally, after giving ritual sacrifice to the bac= kup=20 > gods, I went to the ZFS snapshots and just restored directories wholesa= le and=20 > everything is working again albeit with previous versions of mysql (and= =20 > postfix which also gave me fits) but with the package database entries = now=20 > missing (for some strange reason, I hadn't been backing up that directo= ry.=20 > You'd think I'd learn - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.=20 Something is definitely not right with your system. It really shouldn't be that painful. The missing package database entries can usually be recovered by forcing a reinstall of the package over what is already on disk, but if everything is working properly, I wouldn't worry too much about the contents of /var/db/pkg. I'm thinking that having the registry of installed ports in a completely separate partition or ZFS (ie /var) to where the ports are installed (/usr/local) is not ideal, especially when using snapshots to provide a roll-back capability. /usr/local/var/db/pkg perhaps? > Still wonder what went wrong though.... Seems every time I try to updat= e any=20 > ports, things get broken, ports don't compile, etc., etc., ad infinitum= , ad=20 > nauseum. I've got to be doing something wrong. Incidentally, portmaster= , when=20 > updating mysql54-server reliably rebooted the system. Hmmm.... >=20 > Anyone know if there is a good memory test utility that can be run on F= BSD=20 > AMD64? Yes -- you could well be having hardware problems. Try a few passes of memtest86. It's in ports, but it's a standalone application you boot into so concepts of compatibility with particular OSes is irrelevant. Also do the usual stuff removing any dust or fluff that may be clogging up the ventilation holes or heatsinks, check that you've still got a good thermal contact between the heatsink and CPU (replace thermal compound if necessary). Also make sure your power supply is up to the job. They can fade over time, or you may have added a peripheral too far. [Although generally if anything here was wrong, you'ld see the machine crashing and rebooting rather than it affecting use of the ports.= =2E.] Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Eitan Adler responded: > I don't know much about the specifics but for a desktop computer I > would go with either FreeBSD 9 or PC-BSD (perhaps with the intel kms > patch) I'd say go with FreeBSD 9.0, either 9.0-release or 9.0-stable snapshot. I ddon't see any advantage in FreeBSD 8.x or earlier. One thing I didn't like about FreeBSD < 9 was distribution sets broken into floppy-sized chunks (base.aa, base.ab ...) which is no longer the case with 9.0. For C programming, you have the choice between gcc and Clang. I like Gnumeric spreadsheet. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 07:00:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099C81065696 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7AD8FC19 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaLqS-0003Ap-7u; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:00:24 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaLqR-00055i-Oa; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:00:23 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5170N48098206; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:00:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5170Ntt098205; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:00:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:00:23 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: <20120601070023.GA98123@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Thomas D. Dean" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC82537.2090305@speakeasy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FC82537.2090305@speakeasy.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MK_CLANG_IS_CC mis-formed when compiling ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:00:26 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 07:13:11PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > I built FrfeeBSD 9 with > WITHOUT_CLANG="Yes" > > When I try to build the net/bwn-firmware-kmod/ > > I get an error that MK_CLANG_IS_CC is mis-formed. > > If I define this in make.conf, I get an error that the user may not set > this. > > If I use 'make MK_CLANG_IS_CC="no"' the port compiles. > > How do I fix this? Why did you define WITHOUT_CLANG? On 10.0-current amd64 I build the world/kernel with no clang-related options: GEN8> cat /etc/make.conf SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lsasl2 PERL_VERSION=5.14.2 WITH_PKGNG=yes #CC=clang #CXX=clang++ #CPP=clang-cpp GEN8> I have no problems when building bwn-firmware-kmod. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 08:20:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE216106567B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail1.dur1.host-h.net (mail1.dur1.host-h.net [196.7.18.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABF18FC15 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.7.147.49] (helo=[192.168.1.86]) by mail1.dur1.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaMba-00024f-RJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:49:06 +0200 Message-ID: <4FC873F2.5030102@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:49:06 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120510 Icedove/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14988/Thu May 31 23:33:33 2012) Subject: FreeBSD ports patch count X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:20:14 -0000 Hiya I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen on the FreeBSD ports. To show you what I mean. [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update; pkg_version -vIL=; freebsd-update fetch install auditfile.tbz 100% of 77 kB 6570 Bps 00m00s New database installed. 0 problem(s) in your installed packages found. Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 9 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from geodns-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Thu May 31 19:58:31 SAST 2012 to Fri Jun 1 08:51:05 SAST 2012. Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 4180 patches.....10....20....30....40.... 4180 patches really !!! I run the above command almost everyday, so the most I have ever really seen is 300 - 400 patches. But 4180 has got me attention. Thanks Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 08:34:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A1E106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1848FC15 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaac13 with SMTP id c13so132337eaa.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:34:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=NkJOrppklsH9IHx7ZYJNvTByLBXTbXKfZO8t6TFAUPI=; b=kyIvdOZXGyMzMmFlQwRpdFlmMuYG38Zp5/cZrj+5S+8Kr+L2/7kVNwZlCPuapJx9Cy 8GlgGCtTARpAIGX4Gxy8dYVztR+evRT8kyNzfiXNy50PdAzPh/G+R73jCY8chlqHd9ZN 5zicKETB6n3XgXa8iz5Sz+1uNPFGwabLYmYG5ow6mDLj2EiY/NG7CiDFG5MeIHN5yzcm nwrc/EphAZivVVAkpAkWqkFOkvQJfmDIth9JXCMhSdTGUyUn7QiiwNP0tYlZVvp8M4Zk qmtM09feZKhQhTzGFj8lIewhIPyMwJLDdR0uZnoDPvFhcK4GBoMeL3eczShHRky/ugdI zM5g== Received: by 10.14.53.74 with SMTP id f50mr907380eec.99.1338539659464; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm4246992eeh.17.2012.06.01.01.34.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC87E89.3050609@my.gd> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:34:17 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC873F2.5030102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FC873F2.5030102@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn7xC/Ycu7Hfx0tthMp6TybNK6DrXlj1pO2VzHtqufWA1e0jhgzFXurNFqjq2fRr2kppi7k Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports patch count X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:34:44 -0000 On 6/1/12 9:49 AM, Brent Clark wrote: > Hiya > > I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen > on the FreeBSD ports. > > To show you what I mean. > > [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update; > pkg_version -vIL=; freebsd-update fetch install > auditfile.tbz 100% of 77 kB 6570 Bps > 00m00s > New database installed. > 0 problem(s) in your installed packages found. > Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 9 mirrors found. > Fetching snapshot tag from geodns-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. > Fetching snapshot metadata... done. > Updating from Thu May 31 19:58:31 SAST 2012 to Fri Jun 1 08:51:05 SAST > 2012. > Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. > Applying metadata patches... done. > Fetching 0 metadata files... done. > Fetching 4180 patches.....10....20....30....40.... > > 4180 patches really !!! > > I run the above command almost everyday, so the most I have ever really > seen is 300 - 400 patches. But 4180 has got me attention. > > Thanks > Brent I may be mistaken but I would guess it has to do with the vulnerabilities addressed in OpenSSL in the 30/05/2012 update. I'm assuming authors have bumped their ports' revision numbers to force a rebuild, using the patched openssl lib. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 08:42:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB081065673 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B628FC12 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q518grsh002548; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:42:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q518grjU002545; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:42:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:42:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jens Schweikhardt In-Reply-To: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:42:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:42:56 -0000 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) your dmesg shows drive is properly detected. seems like ntfs driver doesn't work OR MBR is't properly handled. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:00:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AFF106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DE48FC18 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q518xx8A002854; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q518xxSN002851; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:59:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Oscar Hodgson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:59:59 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:00:03 -0000 > 48TB each, roughly. There would be a couple of units. The pizza > boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have > 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. > > Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. I've set > up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for > other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. > > Observations would be appreciated. > you idea of using disks in JBOD style (no "hardware" RAID) is good, but of using ZFS is bad. i would recommend you to do some real performance testing of ZFS on any config under real load (workload doesn't fit cache, there are many different things done by many users/programs) and compare it to PROPERLY done UFS config on such config (with the help of gmirror/gstripe) if you will have better result you certainly didn't configure the latter case (UFS,Gmirror,gstripe) properly :) in spite of large scale hype and promotion of this free software (which by itself should be red alert for you), i strongly recommend to stay away from it. and definitely do not use it if you will not have regular backups of all data, as in case of failures (yes they do happen) you will just have no chance to repair it. There is NO fsck_zfs! And ZFS is promoted as it "doesn't need" it. Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility because it "never crash" is funny. In the other hand i never ever heard of UFS failsystem failure that was not a result of physical disk failure and resulted in bad damage. in worst case some files or one/few subdirectory landed in lost+found, and some recently (minutes at most) done things wasn't here. if you still like to use it, do not forget it uses many times more CPU power than UFS in handling filesystem, leaving much to computation you want to do. As of memory you may limit it's memory (ab)usage by adding proper statements to loader.conf but still it uses enormous amount of it. with 96GB it may not be a problem for you, or it may depends how much memory you need for computation. if you need help in properly configuring large storage with UFS and gmirror/gstripe tools then feel free to ask From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:00:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1574106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A148FC14 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5190tQQ002900; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:00:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5190tlW002897; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:00:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:00:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:00:57 -0000 > > I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a > FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run.... well how many JBOD's can > you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so..... quite a bit more without buying overpriced things From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:04:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EBB106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DD88FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5194nMf002972; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:04:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5194dR5002964; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:04:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:04:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Staal In-Reply-To: <70D99F583BF63C05BB39CCAF@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Message-ID: References: <70D99F583BF63C05BB39CCAF@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:04:56 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Dennis Glatting , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:04:59 -0000 > I'm not using as huge a dataset, but I was seeing this behavior as well when > I first set my box up. What was happening was that ZFS was caching *lots* of > writes, and then would dump them all to disk at once, during which time the > computer was completely occupied with the disk I/O. > > The solution (suggested from ) for me > was: > vfs.zfs.txg.timeout="5" both problem, and solution is very close to linux style ext2/3/4 and it's behaviour. And one of the main reason to moving out from this s..t to FreeBSD. (the other was networking) UFS writes out complete MAXBSIZE sized chunks quickly. all of that behaviour or linux (and probably ZFS) are because it often gives better result in benchmark, and people love synthetic benchmarks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:06:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21828106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715E08FC1F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id Gx3H1j001516WCc01x3J5J; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:03:18 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I8Dntacg c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=7-V2bO-0qoEA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=8bjDdhRx8EG4Uln6COIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SaNlH-00010E-KI; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:03:17 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:03:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206011003.11321.mike@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:06:30 -0000 On Thursday 31 May 2012 11:06:24 Thomas Mueller wrote: > I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, > and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went > awry. I had the same problem a while ago with my ISP (Plusnet). Standard response from front line support is to say you need to send a copy of the message that you never had. Eventually I diverted my questions@ mail to a server that I had control of and relayed the messages from there to my ISP account so I could monitor the logs. The spam was being rejected with "552 Spam Message Rejected" and no information was returned to identify the email. Most of the rejected mail was spam but there were a small number of false positives. When I managed to get past the ISP's front line support they removed the addresses for the false positives from the blacklist but this is only a temporary fix since more addresses keep wrongly finding heir way onto the list over time, though they do eventually drop off it again. Plusnet use Cloudmark spam filtering and I see from the OP's headers that Insight also use Cloudmark so I'd expect similar things are happening there. I was able to stop the bounces by adding freebsd.org to the whitelist on my ISP account - but with the downside of seeing more spam on the list. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:25:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC121065673 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E2D8FC14 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q519PD0S017398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:25:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q519PD0S017398 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q519PD0S017398; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC88A78.2090902@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:25:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <4FC873F2.5030102@gmail.com> <4FC87E89.3050609@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4FC87E89.3050609@my.gd> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE9709C1EAEBFC064F9CD2301" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports patch count X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:25:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE9709C1EAEBFC064F9CD2301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/06/2012 09:34, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 6/1/12 9:49 AM, Brent Clark wrote: >> Hiya >> >> I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happe= n >> on the FreeBSD ports. >> >> To show you what I mean. >> >> [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update;= >> pkg_version -vIL=3D; freebsd-update fetch install >> auditfile.tbz 100% of 77 kB 6570 Bp= s >> 00m00s >> New database installed. >> 0 problem(s) in your installed packages found. >> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 9 mirrors found. >> Fetching snapshot tag from geodns-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. >> Fetching snapshot metadata... done. >> Updating from Thu May 31 19:58:31 SAST 2012 to Fri Jun 1 08:51:05 SAS= T >> 2012. >> Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. >> Applying metadata patches... done. >> Fetching 0 metadata files... done. >> Fetching 4180 patches.....10....20....30....40.... >> >> 4180 patches really !!! >> >> I run the above command almost everyday, so the most I have ever reall= y >> seen is 300 - 400 patches. But 4180 has got me attention. >> >> Thanks >> Brent >=20 >=20 > I may be mistaken but I would guess it has to do with the > vulnerabilities addressed in OpenSSL in the 30/05/2012 update. >=20 > I'm assuming authors have bumped their ports' revision numbers to force= > a rebuild, using the patched openssl lib. There might be a little of that, but most of the recent activity is accounted for by * Numerous ports moving to the new OPTIONSng framework * Hundreds of PORTREVISION bumps after an update to graphics/png * Removal of old koffice ports and the import of the Calligra office suite to replace it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigE9709C1EAEBFC064F9CD2301 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/IinkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIySTACfY0pa5ccx79jeI8LNR6u3ifG4 U3kAn1OY+LWiil9VwDIBJSxi6Xe84caa =MyBB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE9709C1EAEBFC064F9CD2301-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:47:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F8F106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33808FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id A69BD5804C; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:47:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q519kpVD004105; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:46:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q519kpF7004104; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:46:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:46:51 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Thomas Mueller Message-ID: <20120601094651.GA2721@schweikhardt.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Gary Aitken , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:47:06 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 06:14:08PM -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: ... # I think you also need xhci driver in kernel config. xhci is for USB 3.0. It's there. As I said, using a USB 3 *Stick* works fine. It is recogized as 3.0 and the speed is as expected. It's the *Disk* that is not recognized. They're both umass devices. I don't need to boot from that disk, I just want to use it as external data storage. I have recompiled the kernel with "device ada" and put ahci_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf. When I plug the disk, the log now says ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 only once (the old kernel would says so every 20 seconds or so). In contrast, when I plug the stick in the same port, I get ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 400.000MB/s transfers da0: 15082MB (30887936 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1922C) and mounting it works. Obviously, for the disk the device nodes aren't created... Is there something different between umass sticks and umass drives? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:48:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EFD1065672 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni.brinckman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9034F8FC0A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so3412165obc.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 02:48:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5p4D7aVQ4HrwN1m5iR60qTp6nS/xEPSKY6CBht+6m5I=; b=pzi8fPHtRR1LNxhvB/BUzTGSsAId8RB44HXOFjPIspZsGaHmwOGRFWI8jaq1ahB2vv wmtL7ZyU+SamljicPoJsMBcd7ToBsTrqe1pBOHELOgBf5dAFKLkr+vFTzsPEZflMtNk4 X8z6yKCsi1BegK31YBkteHG66iBIh+NDygUMiBEpaAtMtg3hicpTFcdmuchTNbUiLhw7 ZVH3xPUyYXSaemTssFDRaiJHYqoxiFcBjA35uTgn9RhVh0QJCyeYeoP4VnBkXrNyavzg vvZxE3Ym8s77x5iXYv+Ws38n2tJdBod3zO35nfinGpioqqdky1qFuV1KLD4hVnsvwFrH dLpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.74.42 with SMTP id q10mr1851849obv.52.1338544125910; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 02:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.69.41 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 02:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:48:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: Beni Brinckman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: vpn speed loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:48:46 -0000 Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (pc-bsd 9.0 actuallly) on amd64 and I'm using a vpn connexion. My problem is the enormous speed loss i'm having when I'm using the vpn connexion. I have tried Openvpn and mpd5 (with a pptp and l2pt connexion) and the max speed (according to various speedtests) is 5 to 6MB. Without the vpn I'm having 45-50 MB... My vpn service has servers in several European countries and US, Canada, etc. The speed stays the same. So I don't think it is a specific bsd problem but the lines/connexion between ISP's. Is this the "normal" speed when using a vpn (independently of the used program to connect) ? Because from 45-50 back to 5-6 is a big step backward... Thanks for any insights here. Beni From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:58:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66A71065674 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4302D8FC16 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q519w1E5001752; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:58:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q519w1wp001749; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:58:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:58:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Beni Brinckman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vpn speed loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:58:04 -0000 > vpn connexion. > I have tried Openvpn and mpd5 (with a pptp and l2pt connexion) and the > max speed (according to various speedtests) is 5 to 6MB. 5-6MB = megabytes per second? megabytes per hour? per year? be more precise. > Without the vpn I'm having 45-50 MB... My vpn service has servers in do not expect high performance with VPN and ESPECIALLY on this protocols. no idea really how openvpn works, but if you can choose between TCP based and UDP based VPN then try both. UDP is better in protocol point of view but it may be bad for OS overhead. TCP is better with OS overhead but may result in retransmit mess when there are packet loss (both native traffic is retransmitted and then virtual traffic) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 10:00:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0961065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D838FC41 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51A0i7j001817; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:00:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51A0h23001814; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:00:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:00:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jens Schweikhardt In-Reply-To: <20120601094651.GA2721@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: References: <20120601094651.GA2721@schweikhardt.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:00:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Gary Aitken , Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:00:54 -0000 > I have recompiled the kernel with "device ada" and put ahci_load="YES" in > /boot/loader.conf. you don't need ada driver for USB disk. anyway you need it for your SATA disk to make things fast. > and mounting it works. Obviously, for the disk the device nodes aren't created... > Is there something different between umass sticks and umass drives? lost of USB devices are not really standard compliant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 10:01:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B131065740 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1828FC1F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id EE33958044; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:01:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51A17pU004248; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:01:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q51A175W004247; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:01:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:01:07 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120601100107.GB2721@schweikhardt.net> References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:01:18 -0000 Hi Wojciech et al, On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:42:53AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: # > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt # > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument # > ) # your dmesg shows drive is properly detected. Yes, but this was only on a USB2 (two) port, and just an auxiliary information, to show the drive is not dead or otherwise funky. Once I get it running, I'll put an UFS2 on it. My goal is to get it recognized on one of the two USB3 ports I have. All I get there is Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: umass0: on usbus4 and after 100 seconds: Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: umass0: at uhub4, port 2, addr 1 (disconnected) There never is a device node like /dev/daN created, like it does for the USB 3.0 *stick* I have. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 10:10:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807231065677 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CA38FC12 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaOng-00017A-HC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:09:44 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaOnf-0002TB-Ou for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:09:43 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51A9hSE002423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:09:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q51A9hGR002422 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:09:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:09:43 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120601100943.GA2345@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: netstat: kvm_read: Bad address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:10:14 -0000 On ia64 r231193 I get: # netstat -r netstat: kvm_read: Bad address What's the problem? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 10:30:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661F91065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9878FC14 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so2194594bkv.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:30:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HMANIslZt60txCXRaom7HwbjOHLDzVmFhi2HHbjIjKQ=; b=iy+z9vBL4SP0eYwq4bIwC0ib1kS0QTdQwD64VK780oqS7GWOT+agoI6Vv2pkz6Oi6S 90rKM+4hpD0jRrklPPFHfs5F6Qbo8oBcAeY8AuoBfFaehBVRhS8eQZ3mu0XRRL4rqfME fMTJThbp8D17KYI8K9fFipLGPqM3J9+ahJzI4ZALmI3Plz8C3OHGs7fwKKpsChOqTZ10 yW6OFZn9RRwwS0wzauFj7v8IDAwjJmrcr9APEmAAuLFApm8xbSyT4evNpptdOFR0xYEv uSqCAAMbs0bbMIYMgUgUXTWrmEuILECW7V4i5QvHla0ufKqY5Djhdr2trDiWoz3uEaLk E0Pg== Received: by 10.205.33.136 with SMTP id so8mr1203263bkb.1.1338546640791; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig1sm1502255bkc.4.2012.06.01.03.30.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC899CD.3000609@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:30:37 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120515 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120601100943.GA2345@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120601100943.GA2345@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: netstat: kvm_read: Bad address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:30:42 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On ia64 r231193 I get: > > # netstat -r > netstat: kvm_read: Bad address > > What's the problem? > > Thanks > For jail environment this means that /dev is not mounted. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 10:40:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D201106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E308FC17 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaPHX-00029l-RA; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:40:35 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaPHX-00040z-BZ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:40:35 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51AeZDI003070; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:40:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q51AeZD5003069; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:40:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:40:34 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Message-ID: <20120601104034.GA2925@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Volodymyr Kostyrko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120601100943.GA2345@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4FC899CD.3000609@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FC899CD.3000609@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netstat: kvm_read: Bad address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:40:43 -0000 On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 01:30:37PM +0300, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >On ia64 r231193 I get: > > > ># netstat -r > >netstat: kvm_read: Bad address > > > >What's the problem? > > > >Thanks > > > > For jail environment this means that /dev is not mounted. I'm sure I've got /dev mounted: # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0p2 111708308 26738332 76033312 26% / devfs 2 2 0 100% /dev /dev/da2p1 68882164 36110624 27260968 57% /usr/ports /dev/da0p1 409360 2320 407040 1% /efi # ls /dev acpi bpf bpf0 console ctty cuau0 cuau0.init cuau0.lock cuau1 cuau1.init cuau1.lock cuau2 cuau2.init cuau2.lock cuau3 cuau3.init cuau3.lock cuau4 cuau4.init cuau4.lock da0 da0p1 da0p2 da0p3 da1 da2 da2p1 devctl devstat dumpdev fd fido geom.ctl io ipauth ipl iplookup ipnat ipscan ipstate ipsync klog kmem log mdctl mem mpt0 mpt1 nfslock null pass0 pass1 pass2 pci ptmx pts random stderr stdin stdout ttyu0 ttyu0.init ttyu0.lock ttyu1 ttyu1.init ttyu1.lock ttyu2 ttyu2.init ttyu2.lock ttyu3 ttyu3.init ttyu3.lock ttyu4 ttyu4.init ttyu4.lock ugen0.1 ugen1.1 ugen2.1 urandom usb usbctl xpt0 zero zfs -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 11:36:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3B91065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A688D8FC18 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor18.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.1]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 200715B0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:36:26 +0400 (MSK) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:36:17 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120601113616.GA5932@external.screwed.box> References: <45.0C.29097.33EF5CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> <20120530130441.GB26437@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120530130441.GB26437@screwed.box> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:36:35 -0000 Hello. 2012/05/30 17:04:42 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV> xterm works for me in my mutt under tmux, ask me if you need to tweak locale ( I see his L char with the '/' over it in place, and the cyrilic letters in my other mail, too ) PV> PV> mlterm is better for asian languages; it's unlikely that European ones should be shown better in mlterm rather than in xterm. I have to correct myself here: xterm-261 'just works' but not xterm-279 that is an up to date port. I have just fixed my cyrillic and pdeudo-graphics by backing off x11/xterm to '261' version. Of course I borrowed with those +/- for 'wc', 'lc', 'u8' stuff and none of them made 279 to behave the same as 261 for non-ascii. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 11:44:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91324106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C488FC17 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3062467pbb.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:44:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AqU0tD7NXTpGxSVCqhKSf4KqIcMSyT2rM/pZw+6W/XQ=; b=hH/yGq7XNBHy+hOc+udkd7HMwolGdhtRkYKcwkIoXrb745CmeEajDwr/7QdQMGmXR6 admS6B4H2790QfI6vwHQhjzsDTYoPCU/1O0qsFePRcbTTn1Qpuo7t+NzPjdrM1a+9nZl xrghBIL2EM5Zn1Ny2qyYg385HUHqkzcCwOfTtZdmuelcWGrB9pLjdm8PLeWvALehRYmf lSaXg4xFbXVyeMYG96JEvwP2UDGfPqnTG7+LY0RViNGni0C021bLM3ALiPc/aSUTYzIY H8t5kwikwFedla7GI5K3S5GYVCzBayPAaieHRrs9BfVrnj6mwFZef/ZC2qDxeCjDCqQs l81g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.134.71 with SMTP id pi7mr7848361pbb.91.1338551041029; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.79.1 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:44:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:44:01 -0000 > > and definitely do not use it if you will not have regular backups of all > data, as in case of failures (yes they do happen) you will just have no > chance to repair it. > > There is NO fsck_zfs! And ZFS is promoted as it "doesn't need" it. > > Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility > because it "never crash" is funny. > zfs scrub...??? Additionally ZFS works directly at the block level of the HD meaning that it is slightly different to the 'normal' file systems in storing information and is also "self healing"...... Though I'm sure that you knew all this and have found otherwise. I mean I haven't found any problem with it even after power failures and such and my machine has been up for nearly 3 years. Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 12:37:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A24106566C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614738FC20 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51CbcmH037011; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:37:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51Cbbkd037008; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:37:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:37:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:37:41 -0000 >> Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility >> because it "never crash" is funny. >> > > zfs scrub...??? when starting means crash quickly? Well.. no. Certainly with computers that never have hardware faults and assuming ZFS doesn't have any software bugs you may be right. But in real world you will be hardly punished some day ;) > Additionally ZFS works directly at the block level of the HD meaning > that it is slightly different to the 'normal' file systems in storing > information and is also "self healing"...... doesn't other filesystem work on block level too? if no - then at what level? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 13:05:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B987F106566C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2838FC0A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3161259pbb.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:05:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=inzp5onlWK8mI82zBM0L2gYwGpto9OZ4lLmcBpvZNhs=; b=kYbCUbxw6WnAcLoKKg7J6x0seQRhdv+gZh1bMG4vy1fFjDXxNJMBdPj5A9mn3pG9iG PcReIpKaMP6L3O67JCoCOXFA4+0K9vAAHOuuRbhWoKv5LuHV+mszLtRsxHVLGgnb7vSM OhmurB48Bsy9ESW+2D0hh4GUwUppFV7fb8t6+k+hg5VUZl/FOfUJE2JQOdVXmNxswi7/ 5NEA+OCm9KPHVOt8H2AWCVZipSGurw1Sozyp6H0JuPeFbMJr5Di5TXqWoP0slF/IUjRb rwkTtinXSvODF5whjJIbjUa8uJqMFXC8RW+/XFwtuVqD1TVtLH+yDOio2EMvS+oaQTdh Skpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.219.41 with SMTP id pl9mr6852649pbc.61.1338555957199; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.79.1 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 06:05:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:05:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:05:57 -0000 > >> Additionally ZFS works directly at the block level of the HD meaning >> that it is slightly different to the 'normal' file systems in storing >> information and is also "self healing"...... > > > doesn't other filesystem work on block level too? if no - then at what > level? > > It was my impression that ZFS doesn't actually format the disk as stores data as raw information on the hard disk directly rather then using an actual "file system" structure as such. That's what I was trying to get at by that statement. This is really what made ZFS standout over other types of file systems. In doing that according to everything I have read, it actually means faster I/O and ease of portability incase the disks need to be removed from their current location and added elsewhere but not loosing information. Unlike clunky hardware RAID systems ZFS adds much more versitility too which of course being at this depth of knowledge you are aware of and may even have a means to compare, however I personally prefer it over RAID as RAID is rubbish dealing with it everyday I am fed up of creating non-dynamic arrays. I cannot compre directly to the more advanced UFS2 techniques but my money would be with ZFS over RAID and LVM any day and don't even give me M$ systems they would be out the window before being booted for the first time...... Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 14:30:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B168A1065679 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607DB8FC36 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [66.251.72.185]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q51E73Gv059893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120601 #8116517, check: 20120601 clean Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:30:37 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility >>> because it "never crash" is funny. >>> >> >> zfs scrub...??? > > when starting means crash quickly? > Well.. no. > > Certainly with computers that never have hardware faults and assuming ZFS > doesn't have any software bugs you may be right. > > But in real world you will be hardly punished some day ;) > >> Additionally ZFS works directly at the block level of the HD meaning >> that it is slightly different to the 'normal' file systems in storing >> information and is also "self healing"...... > > doesn't other filesystem work on block level too? if no - then at what level? > If the OP really intended to stripe disks with no parity or mirror for ZFS , then that is probably a mistake. If the disks are /tmp, it might make sense to stripe disks without parity, but no need for ZFS. The OP did say "JBOD", which to me means that each disk is a separate disk partition with no striping or parity. Again, in that case I don't see any need for ZFS. As for ZFS being dangerous, we have a score of drive-years with no loss of data. The lack of fsck is considered in this intelligently written piece http://www.osnews.com/story/22423/Should_ZFS_Have_a_fsck_Tool_ The link to the emotional posting by Jeff Bomwick is broken, but the original is available at: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-October/022324.html daniel feenberg nber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 14:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A581065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9D58FC18 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAE8279D0; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q51EZK77002404; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:35:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:35:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kaya Saman Message-Id: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:35:22 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:05:57 +0100, Kaya Saman wrote: > It was my impression that ZFS doesn't actually format the disk as > stores data as raw information on the hard disk directly rather then > using an actual "file system" structure as such. In worst... in ultra-worst abysmal inexpected exceptional and unbelievable narrow cases, when you don't have or can't access a backup (which you should have even when using ZFS), and you _need_ to do some forensic analysis on disks, ZFS seems to be a worse solution than UFS. On ZFS, you never can predict where the data will go. Add several disks to the problem, a combination of striping and mirroring mechanisms, and you will see that things start to become complicated. I do _not_ want to try to claim a "ZFS inferiority due to missing backups", but there may be occassions where (except performance), low-level file system aspects of UFS might be superior to using ZFS. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:03:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAEE1065672 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0F58FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51F3VED003500; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:03:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51F3VNJ003497; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:03:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:03:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:03:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:03:34 -0000 >> level? >> >> > > It was my impression that ZFS doesn't actually format the disk as does any filesystem "format" a disk? disks are nowadays factory formatted. filesystem only write data and it's metadata on it. I really recommend you to get basic knowledge of how (any) filesystem works. THEN please discuss things. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:08:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4688E106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3008FC17 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51F84Xk003676; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:08:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51F84Kr003672; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:08:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:08:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:08:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:08:09 -0000 > and unbelievable narrow cases, when you don't have or can't > access a backup (which you should have even when using ZFS), > and you _need_ to do some forensic analysis on disks, ZFS > seems to be a worse solution than UFS. On ZFS, you never > can predict where the data will go. Add several disks to true. in UFS for example inodes are at known place, and flat structure instead of "tree" is used. even if some sectors are overwritten with garbage then fsck can scan over inodes and recover all that can be recovered. ZFS is somehow in that part similar to Amiga "Fast" File System. when you overwrite a directory block (by hardware fault for example), everything below that directory will disappear. You may not be even aware of it until you need that data Only separate software (that - contrary to ZFS - do exist) can recover things by linearly scanning whole disk. terribly slow but at least possible. EVEN FAT16/FAT32 IS MORE SAFE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:16:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDE010657B0 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830698FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51FG4B9003885; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:16:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51FG3kn003878; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:16:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:16:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Feenberg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:16:04 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:16:07 -0000 > As for ZFS being dangerous, we have a score of drive-years with no loss of > data. The lack of fsck is considered in this intelligently written piece you are just lucky. before i would start using anything new in such important part as filesystem, i do extreme test, ssimulate hardware faults, random overwrites etc. I did it for ZFS not once, and it fails miserably ending with unrecoverable filesystem that - at best - is without data in some subdirectory. at worst - that crashes at mount and are inaccessible forever. under FFS the worst thing i can get is loss of overwritten data only. overwritten inode - lost file. overwrite data blocks - overwritten files. nothing more! what i don't talk about is ZFS performance which is just terribly bad, except some few special cases when it is slightly faster than UFS+softupdates. It is even worse with RAID-5 style layout which ZFS do "better" with RAID-Z. Better=random read performance of single drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:19:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F85B1065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D048FC1A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3336162pbb.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=1ihgc1bquneV2UNiFU690XkU/KyByHTqHpHRsnly81w=; b=Iedjd5kU/PXNrgIo7cXHXAOgZO46OP21C4Ri4Ds8dIyArXUIR5s4t/JHK3W1GiVxiP sGj2sbyES88oVlYmcZVNYLNdM4867QuZAkJ1YF+g+WQX19hFjF+ycTukEvEJlxuLTktc 4jOeoDFsss+KTE4/LuOHbW3hkAoPLX8b+37+rIpKc4BuGzzVE+vkHunJiRM5E6lvhN5l /CXtVGuoNF2VBkKonHoidBFgeyPvmADFV/4i5fsBN5hOaTDq8UnkV/l/ePqB9V+GGNiy ggrBFT9lzg+Kb8a/Hsdaio8RooFbe0qyCiD5xjv/BSSRhWXgJxd370aeQjimczxuxF+k U7XA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.203.73 with SMTP id ko9mr11341890pbc.66.1338563953490; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:19:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:19:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkwQ1IBXGcdNoB4gnt7TH4G5HPolU7Uuk3D7mnyGRO5g0xRnFjsVUjnPYRqJ9R6uPJwaehy Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:19:14 -0000 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Polytropon wrote: > I do _not_ want to try to claim a "ZFS inferiority due to > missing backups", but there may be occassions where (except > performance), low-level file system aspects of UFS might be > superior to using ZFS. If you have an operational need for offsite backups, that doesn't change no matter how much redundancy you have in a single location. Backups are still necessary. But when RAIDed, ZFS has features that make it superior to hardware RAID - copy-on-write, block deduplication, etc. Like UFS2, it supports snapshots - but a lot more of them. Another performance criterion that is important to me is mirror (or raidz) recovery - how long does mirror catch-up take when you replace a disk, and how badly does it degrade performance for other data operations? Software raid, esp. gmirror, tends to do poorly here. My experience is that ZFS raid share recovery had less of an impact. YMMV. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:26:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0376D106567C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EF68FC18 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3345117pbb.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:26:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=lj9Hco1WIW4VgZXK9hi8zx2FzHHlXOaxbCq8g+eNkkA=; b=aArmTT2j150tpNVf4O0OJQ3jzTHWUAYUpAt1BSxUYC9wGo92gtXGzY6QcxCOz8ZLB8 0z2tojABX1FWDXJ1sW8fFXD8TB2IrlOIw+PCpeJjYC8KE2fN3qtUF6H+NPpMiDBb+KDW zMShZBpj7R5RNI8AJbVW+4/9QSKOoSkctSxVDuNnU8XvWVNI5LcBlVjRBy6LbHOZ8odU FFxyr/Ui2lkabsQVaMDQijFtlr2ZEftJw7Z9OhrUwsAB/jdOLbQpeXAN2f+GDL0Xp9YW 9leLRTn+r0QjtkTrZXHOiZFlbTH0csgTwiruI6KoHlyP6KhaHYxjUDSRW+Oq2Vr0TXCg vJKA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.136.65 with SMTP id py1mr11090103pbb.81.1338564382349; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:26:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:26:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnC+DHvAlU+t+9WgJUrLZlk386Z8u1XqdE5B1i5cszrVXLqe7HbVpEoMoIf/qQTaU3VtDtR Cc: Kaya Saman , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:26:23 -0000 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > ZFS is somehow in that part similar to Amiga "Fast" File System. when you > overwrite a directory block (by hardware fault for example), everything > below that directory will disappear. You may not be even aware of it until > you need that data > > Only separate software (that - contrary to ZFS - do exist) can recover > things by linearly scanning whole disk. terribly slow but at least possible. > > > > EVEN FAT16/FAT32 IS MORE SAFE. First of all, in any environment you expect disk failures. Which operationally means replacing the entire disk. Then you rely on the raid recovery mechanism (in whichever flavor of disk discipline you choose). ZFS semantics (copy on write, for example) are much safer than UFS semantics. This is not to say that UFS is not a more mature and possibly robust filesystem. But relying on gmirror, graid, etc. means you are no longer relying solely on the robustness of the underlying filesystem - you cannot offer a reduction proof that shows that if gmirror is bad, it means UFS is bad. I use UFS for most purposes, but would never build a large fileserver using gmirror on UFS. Your assertions about the dangers of ZFS are just that - assertions. They are not borne out in reality. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:28:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2451065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD798FC15 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3347724pbb.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:28:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=z3qE8FaQn9pBKjdY07Er9OdMHM4X++YH62ObJ5woeNY=; b=CoPJ7ODqXwJOYrREeKy3tzv/r+XtEYQjfX83ZpJz2Ep4NsL8IJ7VhrQvScyckUWZZF HeOG8DcAK3pEsQGPdewDJcgE1gy/A46l7KffoksNx46FIUnfNxKq34MS4hqTeG848/Er FL1QlOTzPhyUYECOVNgSVAsFJnfaec74i9VwydZ0nzlCD/4onc3isAV9fSFiYSDYQDuI YHf/sO+peKEVKBqWN3UATMnakBPhKs/hluh9ObtMTQECR0IIx5tkPygu5YgAi3tsT180 RCC/S0rl04ZIARY2JE80SrqnNyIK312YkmrcTxZyr4w72ib/IcAF2I4FS48KtSGUQqFJ r7eg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.232.103 with SMTP id tn7mr11044187pbc.86.1338564523983; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:28:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:28:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkhm8nm+1oOXF+1z/rICG9LpwtmbmY7rcyQdrBm9GD7/ugUHtRwKRTySD1d95l4la+6jmng Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:28:44 -0000 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Better=random read performance of single drive. What an entirely useless performance measure! Maybe you should restrict yourself to using SSDs, which have rather unbeatable random read performance - the spindle speed is really high. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:35:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD3D106567D for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (firebox.emsphone.com [199.67.51.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC828FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q51FZPFg058067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:35:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51FZPYe064062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:35:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q51FZPXJ064061; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:35:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:35:25 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120601153525.GA16874@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:35:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 172.17.19.78 Cc: Kaya Saman , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:35:32 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 01), Wojciech Puchar said: > > and unbelievable narrow cases, when you don't have or can't access a > > backup (which you should have even when using ZFS), and you _need_ to do > > some forensic analysis on disks, ZFS seems to be a worse solution than > > UFS. On ZFS, you never can predict where the data will go. Add several > > disks to > > true. in UFS for example inodes are at known place, and flat structure > instead of "tree" is used. > > even if some sectors are overwritten with garbage then fsck can scan over > inodes and recover all that can be recovered. > > ZFS is somehow in that part similar to Amiga "Fast" File System. when you > overwrite a directory block (by hardware fault for example), everything > below that directory will disappear. You may not be even aware of it > until you need that data On the other hand, even on a single-disk pool, ZFS stores two copies of all metadata, so the chances of actually losing a directory block are extremely remote. On mirrored or RAIDZ pools, you have at least four copies of all metadata. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:36:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE7A106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597B78FC12 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so2561626bkv.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h2nYxDyC3oRaPz/q8dgD19AzUAgAAeZPRtAFeBid7So=; b=y5mqLbTYtr6Ije5KfNSNxdlPD1Zy99XmZKw4t2T3jXRfDr1YZ5/Z2XQGmE54iC87gM 9XcJt38jOp8/IA3ZlcRm1w8FS7tcJkrK1Z56U7/4pih4zqWbYfTYab8hTkndmUHibGQN j9dAfLV5oSg0o9BqhRHEcdMkdiAcT6Grzj4qJSUS8flVpegTqvqX27ZE5+bLiuPnQb84 hCkEjF+drFYg2039CKo8G7xcK2hAv4StGph85mkqz/GwSEEXUkpq0H+iiUamSgb9zgwq JiVO+29BAyeJ7oO+CwzQla0GIKv+PdKHzrTA5Z7Pbenea/kkGLhLvXWvVNScstHk5kSz K0mQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.130.85 with SMTP id r21mr2260217bks.53.1338564962249; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.200 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:36:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Oscar Hodgson To: Albert Shih Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:36:03 -0000 Albert, What are you using for an HBA in the Dell? On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > I've Dell R610 + 48 Go Ram, 2x 6 core + 4 * MD1200 (36*3T + 12*2T) > > [root@filer ~]# zpool list > NAME =A0 =A0 SIZE =A0ALLOC =A0 FREE =A0 =A0CAP =A0DEDUP =A0HEALTH =A0ALTR= OOT > filer =A0 =A0119T =A035,4T =A083,9T =A0 =A029% =A01.00x =A0ONLINE =A0- > [root@filer ~]# > > Work very fine (I can't say I've long experience because the server is up > since just 4 months). > > The ZFS is very good, easy to manage, very fast. > > They're two default IMHO : > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Eat lot of Ram > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cannot synchronize two zpool automaticaly like HammerFS > > Regards. > > JAS > -- > Albert SHIH > DIO b=E2timent 15 > Observatoire de Paris > 5 Place Jules Janssen > 92195 Meudon Cedex > T=E9l=E9phone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 > xmpp: jas@jabber.obspm.fr > Heure local/Local time: > ven 1 jui 2012 07:17:47 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:36:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D331065674; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DED18FC1A; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so3910967obc.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3wqqoU3GgKstwB/FwuSQRbzeJrRLmdTGMIaDT3KwlQU=; b=s9E5Fu8L3k+cF1s4wZzJDMtEfBmoFDjBXPbfMbecF1xPVU6dJ74M3S7MgwidHCjjG0 RvQc5Aa6cpFvSc6rkHiZGd1WCo8I9+OBe2c3ON/K7MCVhRZTz22/1UTaKG8kFjx6UDXk Yw5CYFf6qYeTBOWiVe3pYrz17eCcWBYwi7V+/J8cWknRamtOcwcjoxY7R2sLvLdHC61z rmyFn4AeIAHZi0b8VH/uT8V9YcJTFCCiN44Fawoaq30Dp/l4qQGOAxx9xCNoK2DPIa7L yN0IFPipFym9nIfgP7vY9NYCRiAI0P7Ejqldw7BjchzuA7IDEryk5v/lsB+f+Gnd4XcP DO1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.47.66 with SMTP id b2mr3191179obn.2.1338564983753; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:36:23 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f1dOh4WuQKyHBuXTi4B7iOIwLn8 Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Support for Intel 82599ES? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:36:24 -0000 Hi All, I did not see the Intel 82599ES chipset in the hardware release notes for 8.3 or 9.0. Are these controllers supported at this time? -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:43:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252961065841 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CD98FC1C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id q51FhL5r031512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:43:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:43:21 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Oscar Hodgson Message-ID: <20120601154321.GA44155@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 4FC8E319.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4FC8E319.001/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:43:24 -0000 Le 01/06/2012 ? 11:36:02-0400, Oscar Hodgson a écrit Hi, I use a LSI SAS 9200-8e 8 port Low Profile It's working well, I got crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 122 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 176 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 192 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da10 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 193 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da11 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 194 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da12 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 195 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da13 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 196 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da14 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 197 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da15 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 198 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da16 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 199 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da17 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 200 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da18 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 201 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da19 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 177 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 202 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da20 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 203 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da21 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 204 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da22 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 205 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da23 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 206 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da24 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 207 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da25 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 208 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da26 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 209 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da27 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 210 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da28 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 211 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da29 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 180 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 212 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da30 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 213 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da31 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 214 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da32 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 215 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da33 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 216 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da34 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 217 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da35 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 218 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da36 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 219 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da37 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 220 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da38 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 221 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da39 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 181 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da4 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 222 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da40 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 223 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da41 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 224 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da42 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 225 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da43 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 226 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da44 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 227 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da45 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 228 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da46 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 229 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da47 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 182 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da5 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 185 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da6 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 188 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da7 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 190 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da8 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 191 9 avr 10:30 /dev/da9 at boot. I don't use H700/H800 or Perc because all people say the raid of those stuff is no good for ZFS. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@jabber.obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: ven 1 jui 2012 17:39:06 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:48:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DC01065680 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8658FC0A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id i18so2577002bkv.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:48:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s7ci6icSnKtUnocYXlyBoCjmfrk6TizWBGuB2pURVpI=; b=X9Sy7Go8deqZgkYzDqupIyZKuyXmi2TzjeInhU7yfnEdVBkSvdPmxPC0CeQoaUNJdb Z8DCsK9+8imUOGamnglseuLSKM7l3fHuOjSkNEAToP5lv0M+nr8spt32tGMUuVNfEFyw NzZPJ3WERtAbaULHhF3PwyEZ1x28lbnEqEwUu5mYJrwWSqLKN9X4hRGX+vyhW9QSl61l cRhAvEroQxfacjPgzAR/Ulc8MVnrC+cHlQMyOxh6Dx2UW9hgH/IfqUCXyciCouHANENz 1fqHRe6yPWOFU/ZirecAIZ6nDrF7ivetF/yoXiYk0AVDPMrdSdyWJfAbpa7Edm7rsScr G/tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.23 with SMTP id z23mr2270051bkw.71.1338565729818; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.200 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:48:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:48:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Oscar Hodgson To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:48:50 -0000 Thank you for bringing up this topic. We've got significant experience with both UFS and ZFS (as delivered by Solaris). Our internal testing has shown that UFS provides significantly better throughput, roughly 20% to 30% higher in general, and 50% higher in some specific use cases. My internal customer prefers ZFS's 'end-to-end' reliability guarantee to the higher throughput of UFS. (What's really interesting though is that he's really a long-time Linux fan at heart ... and we are now discussing FreeBSD due to its ZFS support. A Linux hardware RAID solution is not presently on the table). ZFS really is entirely different than UFS. In 2005 Bonwick put out a presentation roughly titled, "ZFS the last word in file systems". I've used those materials on a number of occasions to help explain the difference between ZFS and prior generation file systems. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> 48TB each, roughly. =A0There would be a couple of units. =A0The pizza >> boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have >> 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. >> >> Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. =A0I've set >> up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for >> other tasks here, and those have been successful so far. >> >> Observations would be appreciated. >> > you idea of using disks in JBOD style (no "hardware" RAID) is good, but o= f > using ZFS is bad. > > > i would recommend you to do some real performance testing of ZFS on any > config =A0under real load (workload doesn't fit cache, there are many > different things done by many users/programs) =A0and compare it to PROPER= LY > done UFS config on such config (with the help of gmirror/gstripe) > > if you will have better result you certainly didn't configure the latter > case (UFS,Gmirror,gstripe) properly :) > > in spite of large scale hype and promotion of this free software (which b= y > itself should be red alert for you), i strongly recommend to stay away fr= om > it. > > and definitely do not use it if you will not have regular backups of all > data, as in case of failures (yes they do happen) you will just have no > chance to repair it. > > There is NO fsck_zfs! And ZFS is promoted as it "doesn't need" it. > > Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility > because it "never crash" is funny. > > In the other hand i never ever heard of UFS failsystem failure that was n= ot > a result of physical disk failure and resulted in bad damage. > in worst case some files or one/few subdirectory landed in lost+found, an= d > some recently (minutes at most) done things wasn't here. > > > if you still like to use it, do not forget it uses many times more CPU po= wer > than UFS in handling filesystem, leaving much to computation you want to = do. > > As of memory you may limit it's memory (ab)usage by adding proper stateme= nts > to loader.conf but still it uses enormous amount of it. > > with 96GB it may not be a problem for you, or it may depends how much mem= ory > you need for computation. > > > > if you need help in properly configuring large storage with UFS and > gmirror/gstripe tools then feel free to ask From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 15:52:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360CF10656D2 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A743D8FC19 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so2582233bkv.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:52:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ENGytZeY4qoTAJ3lRixMCI2vL4t+yrwtqcStkwfFqfU=; b=R2q7nQC0I0800bLyatFyngu9rjSa8tA+0ApZ1HuMFCet6oboiaYloAeY3oSCRl/nOy L3MwB4L8ImaXqOe5yUMlv1dJ0f4aW7F5t2k336BXZ8vsYSb16VkgZH8YURHiB//ucZlR D28XF4lFUwZP3QFilw4LgrOSwaC2MHJs6BVRm5xyWEeVRsa+0DgjbqQhv1hTxGdWz3Ko cgLbeU8eIaotAzJgZO1Tth06jGnOzRqhDoUmTRKBlACT8hWRty2rz6Xb3NcH2diTOu5x oZMgyqbBk0YbK+6wyuD6OdYPBDmjsC/eSyiNearwJH1knQjp8D18bD0GqZSgMtuMv7OP t0Ng== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.137.11 with SMTP id im11mr2231324bkc.80.1338565972606; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.200 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:52:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120601154321.GA44155@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20120601154321.GA44155@pcjas.obspm.fr> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:52:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: Oscar Hodgson To: Albert Shih Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:52:54 -0000 Are you running FreeBSD 9? Most of the LSI drivers officially support 8.2, but I don't see any indication of later updates. I presume all work OK with 9.0 ... yes? ... oscar. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > =A0Le 01/06/2012 ? 11:36:02-0400, Oscar Hodgson a =E9crit > Hi, > > I use a LSI SAS 9200-8e 8 port Low Profile > > It's working well, I got > > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 122 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da0 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 176 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da1 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 192 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da10 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 193 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da11 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 194 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da12 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 195 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da13 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 196 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da14 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 197 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da15 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 198 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da16 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 199 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da17 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 200 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da18 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 201 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da19 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 177 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da2 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 202 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da20 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 203 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da21 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 204 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da22 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 205 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da23 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 206 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da24 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 207 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da25 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 208 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da26 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 209 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da27 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 210 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da28 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 211 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da29 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 180 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da3 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 212 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da30 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 213 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da31 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 214 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da32 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 215 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da33 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 216 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da34 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 217 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da35 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 218 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da36 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 219 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da37 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 220 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da38 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 221 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da39 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 181 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da4 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 222 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da40 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 223 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da41 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 224 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da42 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 225 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da43 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 226 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da44 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 227 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da45 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 228 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da46 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 229 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da47 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 182 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da5 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 185 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da6 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 188 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da7 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 190 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da8 > crw-r----- =A01 root =A0operator =A0 =A00, 191 =A09 avr 10:30 /dev/da9 > > at boot. > > I don't use H700/H800 or Perc because all people say the raid of those > stuff is no good for ZFS. > > Regards. > > JAS > -- > Albert SHIH > DIO b=E2timent 15 > Observatoire de Paris > 5 Place Jules Janssen > 92195 Meudon Cedex > T=E9l=E9phone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 > xmpp: jas@jabber.obspm.fr > Heure local/Local time: > ven 1 jui 2012 17:39:06 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 16:17:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB49106566C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A8A8FC18 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51GHcXY004495; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:17:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51GHcGr004492; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:17:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:17:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Oscar Hodgson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2456600518-337710135-1338567437=:4297" Content-ID: X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:17:39 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Albert Shih , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:17:43 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2456600518-337710135-1338567437=:4297 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Albert Shih wrote: >> I've Dell R610 + 48 Go Ram, 2x 6 core + 4 * MD1200 (36*3T + 12*2T) >> >> [root@filer ~]# zpool list >> NAME     SIZE  ALLOC   FREE    CAP  DEDUP  HEALTH  ALTROOT >> filer    119T  35,4T  83,9T    29%  1.00x  ONLINE  - >> [root@filer ~]# >> >> Work very fine (I can't say I've long experience because the server is up >> since just 4 months). >> >> The ZFS is very good, easy to manage, very fast. i dare not to agree about "very fast". very fast is relative term. how did you configured your storage? trivial test: make 10 100GB files (so none fits in RAM) by for x in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9;do ( dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile$x bs=1m count=100k &) ;done measure time needed for it to finish (all dd processes exist) then install /usr/ports/benchmark/randomio and do some tests of random reads on that files. and final test - 10 randomio in parallel with 10 threads each, one per every file. then sum up results (IOPS) and divide by amount of disks you have. then decide if is it fast or slow :) >> They're two default IMHO : >> >>        Eat lot of Ram can be controlled by settings in loader.conf. --2456600518-337710135-1338567437=:4297-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 16:19:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138FB1065672 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA6A8FC14 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51GIuMP004516; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:18:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q51GIuop004513; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:18:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:18:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Michael Sierchio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:18:57 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:19:00 -0000 > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >> Better=random read performance of single drive. > > What an entirely useless performance measure! if random read performance is a useless measure for you then i really cannot help you. sorry. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 16:24:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669301065676 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9534C8FC0A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id q51GOVQe001007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:24:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:24:31 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120601162431.GA44290@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 4FC8ECBF.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4FC8ECBF.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:24:35 -0000 Le 01/06/2012 ? 18:17:38+0200, Wojciech Puchar a écrit > > i dare not to agree about "very fast". very fast is relative term. how did > you configured your storage? > > trivial test: > > make 10 100GB files (so none fits in RAM) by > > for x in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9;do ( dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile$x bs=1m > count=100k &) ;done > > measure time needed for it to finish (all dd processes exist) > > then install /usr/ports/benchmark/randomio and do some tests of random > reads on that files. > > and final test - 10 randomio in parallel with 10 threads each, one per > every file. > > then sum up results (IOPS) and divide by amount of disks you have. > > then decide if is it fast or slow :) When I say fast that's mean I already do some benchmarks with iozone. And do some graphs to see what the performance are. What I can say is it's go lot faster than H700+ 12 disk 600 15k/min. And I do those tests on FreeBSD with 12 disk, 24 disk, 36 disk and finaly 48 disk. All I can say is ZFS go faster than 12 disk with H700 (and ext3) almost every time. If you like I can privalty send you the url of those graph. Just ask me, > >>        Eat lot of Ram > > can be controlled by settings in loader.conf. Yes, but I think that's not a good idea to buy a server with 4 Go and make him manage 100To through ZFS.... Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@jabber.obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: ven 1 jui 2012 18:18:55 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 16:49:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FE01065670; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE698FC0A; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so671438wib.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=csSRIErGI7MYnObOu4UMiHGyHQV9hDqUb1tULmW1OoQ=; b=Nl2qPFM5Gd7rmsWdvikumMBAQYG9MZCplKBz1T2+puBGOC6bsl2FIiriDRXCDfK1uo XZ7jy+3Iuqq8x6lvQEiEXES/mQzYxaSnmbBfZq1lgoq9a0FUrian4Qoyb1CsCrK6IJ3M PIIukDwC2ROcvFQsiMZx3aocCdjo7eZSvIDuGemD84/DI7vXch4pgq2ByXczKh9CWDzf 5ot9g8AO3KSPFmHmktwig4Sgxnk0ODvBb4+eg2+WAMH14rtjhaSccMVYkUMudqslU7aQ du73wpczGMvZ1sLa9lpY8AVRqPgZETfEF3zonZMwsG27O30CYqyoc1nklxx+o2jmy82m xjuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.54.206 with SMTP id i56mr2438501wec.28.1338569347262; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.232 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:49:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jack Vogel To: Rick Miller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Intel 82599ES? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:49:09 -0000 Yes, it is supported in the ixgbe driver. Jack On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi All, > > I did not see the Intel 82599ES chipset in the hardware release notes > for 8.3 or 9.0. Are these controllers supported at this time? > > -- > Take care > Rick Miller > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 16:51:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C84106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDCA8FC15 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q51GpSUQ053988; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:51:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC8F310.3090502@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:51:28 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:51:36 -0000 On 05/31/12 17:59, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> From Gary Aitken : > >> I've got an HP printer directly connected to the local network. > >> hp-probe finds it: > >> #hp-probe -bnet > >> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) >> Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.1 >> ... >> Device URI Model Name >> ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------ -------- >> hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g?ip=aa.bb.cc.dd Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g HP4356E6 > >> Found 1 printer(s) on the 'net' bus. > >> However, hp-setup and hp-uri refuse to use it: > >> #hp-makeuri -ldebug aa.bb.cc.dd > >> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) >> Device URI Creation Utility ver. 5.0 >> ... >> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying IP address aa.bb.cc.dd >> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Not found. >> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying serial number aa.bb.cc.dd >> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: usb >> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: par >> error: Device not found > >> When the gui comes up, only the USB option is enabled. There is no parallel port active and no wireless on the box, but at least the network connection should be available. > >> The probe which succeeds takes several seconds, but the hp-setup gui and makeuri fail immediately, and the missing ability to set the network discovery option in the gui lead me to believe it's not even trying the ip addr. > >> Anyone with experience setting these guys up have any advice? > >> Alternately, is there anything other than a special lp filter really needed, and if not, any suggestions on the best one to use? I looked at apsfilter but the installation SETUP driver options didn't seem to include this printer. >> Thanks > > I have an HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, and hplip/hp-setup in FreeBSD finds the printer all right when connected by Ethernet, but then fails on installing the required binary plugin. Printer is not detected at all when connected by USB. > > NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386 with hplip 3.11.1 built from pkgsrc-wip couldn't find the printer on Ethernet, next step is to login to wireless router, and/or check the dmesg.boot, and then use the IP address found therefrom. > > pkgsrc-wip URL: http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/ > pkgsrc URL: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html > > I wonder if I should have bought a printer, non-HP, with wireless, as long as it also had USB and Ethernet capability. > > Seeing security advisories for FreeBSD, my next move might be to update the source tree by csup, then rebuild (RELENG_9: 9.0-STABLE) for amd64 and build for i386 as well. Then I would have the possibility of building wine from the ports, and I could try the MS-Windows software. I also need to update the other ports, including but not limited to hplip and dependencies. I am in the process of trying to sort mine out. Found this via one of the hp linux support pages http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/support.html I'm in the process of trying to get mine working with their help. We'll see how that goes; will post results. In my case (network connection) they suggested running and sending them the output of: $ hp-check $ hp-probe -ldebug $ hp-makeuri -ldebug $ hp-setup -ldebug I'm in the process of sorting that out, as it may be an issue of how cups and dbus are installed which may be preventing access (file ownership issues) Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:06:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDC4106566C; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704BE8FC19; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4031343obc.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YadCV+O/szUtvk5WvQ13lSeocwtEL4iYb2HeCZdSkas=; b=rX1UbIsIkvqCT9YfO+fvSPLS4qxJ1lMsih+kVnwgSH7SLNqUSSXByWUIvFidnqk978 J3Q7ztw0VqeXzyN+w4gQxdBLnmXtyneUg4I3F6bgHFGxnuHVDTydneGK8rcwrJFWwKLR fevnR11toinvWCu/yj6Dx7c4crRdSMkZO8/BZTsV0OiLRN3i8WPUHyrk+IEwXDfYeAqx vqtO8DFai3uUGPX0+/kZiff1K63GNrPlJkG/8Ty14oqkxCEzP2xdtIubqAWU8S2ZCuNw aTj2cdP/gR9x/tExzzfvuIMpy8FL9XLqH4qxD00ckZNA4vuoC5MwcEtI4mhLbGguS2AI 36lQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.136.4 with SMTP id pw4mr3432743obb.28.1338570417647; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:06:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KHAhliXr2qtqb8zGX8Cc7q-A6FQ Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Jack Vogel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Intel 82599ES? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:06:58 -0000 Thanks, Jack! Also another support question for the lists....Is the Broadcom BCM5719 supported? I can find neither in the hardware notes for 8.3 nor 9.0. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: > Yes, it is supported in the ixgbe driver. > > Jack > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Rick Miller > wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I did not see the Intel 82599ES chipset in the hardware release notes >> for 8.3 or 9.0. =A0Are these controllers supported at this time? >> >> -- >> Take care >> Rick Miller >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > > --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:24:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E89106566C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C378FC12 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so697264wib.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2D5yEsBCUb14KJbvyTTHU1yA3A/B4L+sKNQOZsYKFO8=; b=UTgFTYUNwagepYuTuzji9YAVxQzdJqz8Fj5WKUpF5y1cwf5XWK5FZ3pRIdutCO1YDY H78Ha2abNk9rfA+ROGPx7TBmNPN9Qvzcgy7f0v3eGpRe03tcbXUpCck/l95oizw6Anqp rgORhspGhVxHyspHQy0TbvoLNCKTK1M/StoGoYz645pQ1txXCw+FWUHUEA4DcLDD/kxT gH/RZrSXGNR5WbDABL8dKi3KHdH0kndVjZfosRxXzgRspT8qn0bO4gceYWHS6AMgXPLf KXcZNp/wpv2O5gRVxLkSiXYEeWIw6raP21xCLzWxmck3EtTsdljDq7Gg1PrVUnu3rA9G CIKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.219.97 with SMTP id l75mr2611198wep.128.1338571459620; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.155 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:24:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Thomas Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Aitken , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:24:24 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I have an HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, and hplip/hp-setup in FreeBSD finds the > printer all right when connected by Ethernet, but then fails on installing > the required binary plugin. Printer is not detected at all when connected > by USB. > > NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386 with hplip 3.11.1 built from pkgsrc-wip couldn't > find the printer on Ethernet, next step is to login to wireless router, > and/or check the dmesg.boot, and then use the IP address found therefrom. > > pkgsrc-wip URL: http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/ > pkgsrc URL: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html > > I wonder if I should have bought a printer, non-HP, with wireless, as long > as it also had USB and Ethernet capability. > > Seeing security advisories for FreeBSD, my next move might be to update > the source tree by csup, then rebuild (RELENG_9: 9.0-STABLE) for amd64 and > build for i386 as well. Then I would have the possibility of building wine > from the ports, and I could try the MS-Windows software. I also need to > update the other ports, including but not limited to hplip and dependencies. > I added a HP Photosmart C6300 series via CUPS using HP Photosmart c6300 Series hpijs, 3.11.5 socket://192.168.25.15:9100 Prints fine over wireless. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:25:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E141065675; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Received: from sarah.protected-networks.net (sarah.protected-networks.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:4e1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04818FC0C; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toshi.auburn.protected-networks.net (toshi.auburn.protected-networks.net [202.12.127.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Iain Butler", Issuer "RSA Class 2 Personal CA" (not verified)) (Authenticated sender: imb@protected-networks.net) by sarah.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C25A760E1; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:25:44 -0400 (EDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=200509; d=protected-networks.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gTWmSaEazTovKhNECBW5A8EcjNyGP9L1zXB2zmEyNjpov8Su8lJeeNWWGCof5pAcK gd5Z4id7dikHY4C3EZp1ICvZ1rab3TgNjvVi6VsCN2aVQPIDZaCCYTMohS2HQnX Message-ID: <4FC8FB16.2090907@protected-networks.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:25:42 -0400 From: Michael Butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120506 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Miller References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5pre OpenPGP: id=0442D492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Intel 82599ES? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:25:46 -0000 On 06/01/12 13:06, Rick Miller wrote: > Thanks, Jack! > > Also another support question for the lists....Is the Broadcom BCM5719 > supported? I can find neither in the hardware notes for 8.3 nor 9.0. man bge From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:29:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05211065670 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970248FC1F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q51HTd6B054246; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:29:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC8FC03.1070909@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:29:39 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:29:39 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:29:41 -0000 On 06/01/12 10:51, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 05/31/12 17:59, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>> From Gary Aitken : >> >>> I've got an HP printer directly connected to the local network. >> >>> hp-probe finds it: >> >>> #hp-probe -bnet >> >>> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) >>> Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.1 >>> ... >>> Device URI Model Name >>> ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------ -------- >>> hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g?ip=aa.bb.cc.dd Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g HP4356E6 >> >>> Found 1 printer(s) on the 'net' bus. >> >>> However, hp-setup and hp-uri refuse to use it: >> >>> #hp-makeuri -ldebug aa.bb.cc.dd >> >>> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) >>> Device URI Creation Utility ver. 5.0 >>> ... >>> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying IP address aa.bb.cc.dd >>> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Not found. >>> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Trying serial number aa.bb.cc.dd >>> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: usb >>> hp-makeuri[63924]: debug: Probing bus: par >>> error: Device not found >> >>> When the gui comes up, only the USB option is enabled. There is no parallel port active and no wireless on the box, but at least the network connection should be available. >> >>> The probe which succeeds takes several seconds, but the hp-setup gui and makeuri fail immediately, and the missing ability to set the network discovery option in the gui lead me to believe it's not even trying the ip addr. >> >>> Anyone with experience setting these guys up have any advice? >> >>> Alternately, is there anything other than a special lp filter really needed, and if not, any suggestions on the best one to use? I looked at apsfilter but the installation SETUP driver options didn't seem to include this printer. >>> Thanks >> >> I have an HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, and hplip/hp-setup in FreeBSD finds the printer all right when connected by Ethernet, but then fails on installing the required binary plugin. Printer is not detected at all when connected by USB. >> >> NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386 with hplip 3.11.1 built from pkgsrc-wip couldn't find the printer on Ethernet, next step is to login to wireless router, and/or check the dmesg.boot, and then use the IP address found therefrom. >> >> pkgsrc-wip URL: http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/ >> pkgsrc URL: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html >> >> I wonder if I should have bought a printer, non-HP, with wireless, as long as it also had USB and Ethernet capability. >> >> Seeing security advisories for FreeBSD, my next move might be to update the source tree by csup, then rebuild (RELENG_9: 9.0-STABLE) for amd64 and build for i386 as well. Then I would have the possibility of building wine from the ports, and I could try the MS-Windows software. I also need to update the other ports, including but not limited to hplip and dependencies. > > I am in the process of trying to sort mine out. > Found this via one of the hp linux support pages > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/support.html > I'm in the process of trying to get mine working with their help. > We'll see how that goes; will post results. > > In my case (network connection) they suggested running and sending them the output of: > > $ hp-check > $ hp-probe -ldebug > $ hp-makeuri -ldebug > $ hp-setup -ldebug > > I'm in the process of sorting that out, as it may be an issue of how cups and dbus are installed which may be preventing access (file ownership issues) hp-check indicated what it thought were inconsistencies; things it couldn't find but should have because they were there. the output didn't jibe with file permissions and running daemons, but I did see one potential issue (a missing python capability which was not one of the defaults. can't remember which, maybe in the cups install) I did a make clean, make config, make install, and that got me a lot further. In the config, I think for something cups related, I checked the python capability. When I run hp-setup now, it finds the printer, but it can't find an appropriate ppd file. Working on that now. The right one is there, but for some reason it claims it's not a close-enough match. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:38:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE581065673 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CEB8FC1A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q51HcP9k054307; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:38:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC8FE11.3020700@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:38:25 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Schweikhardt References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> <20120601100107.GB2721@schweikhardt.net> In-Reply-To: <20120601100107.GB2721@schweikhardt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:38:26 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:38:27 -0000 On 06/01/12 04:01, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > My goal is to get it recognized on one of the two USB3 ports I have. > All I get there is > Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 > Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: umass0: on usbus4 > and after 100 seconds: > Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) > Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: umass0: at uhub4, port 2, addr 1 (disconnected) > > There never is a device node like /dev/daN created, like it does > for the USB 3.0 *stick* I have. Any chance you have access to a 3.0 drive from a different mfg you can try to point the finger at the driver? seagate go-flex works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:43:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B6A1065675 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org) Received: from remailer.paranoici.org (remailer.paranoici.org [88.80.28.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF48FC27 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by remailer.paranoici.org (Postfix, from userid 109) id F12412E87; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:24:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Anonymous Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2bc678ae2662c322990cd4b8053956a8@remailer.paranoici.org> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:43:10 -0000 > Certainly with computers that never have hardware faults and assuming ZFS > doesn't have any software bugs you may be right. That was part of their assumption. It's based on server grade hardware and ECC RAM, and lots of redundancy. They missed the part about their code not being perfect. > But in real world you will be hardly punished some day ;) Yep, big time. Hardly as in hard, not as in barely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:45:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218AB106566B; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94BA8FC14; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4082034obc.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:45:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YBUAMv+lrnwx2dwXTLk2wKiKYy2YQBAQBydC27NdFVg=; b=LGkuwHFXQ2C3AnuuFGRWHvPZZlnyHQM9Zq1UcFpfjTZt/BqmnJkL45Bb4WnjqgMgZZ vMHSErzCYaE5Jo1zIlhvEgF41dds92SWQTTmhdU4C9Yqyjs9oh83B4EQSRC2nNt1uEFe UlldeJD2xqVHlXb2lLD4tUrodLATTLDH9b2eT87NizL8Pzx20q5VCLZPpXhR0hcvx/ie g+yNMqqtKkuQzLG73W+1Y7ZIjjswjtlb5v0Pxm7wGWiW/H+oU0JlWgxLu1myaGyd2UcT 434b0AMBNIpkjCfdjJWCNkBeWNSDhJ2eIhR3e/EwSRaxDFz7ZYU37oSYkGhUiVh3WC+A HebQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.47.66 with SMTP id b2mr3600620obn.2.1338572713271; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:45:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC8FB16.2090907@protected-networks.net> References: <4FC8FB16.2090907@protected-networks.net> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:45:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: I9Stm0EQp1_coHxCiTcqyMHfJAE Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Michael Butler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Intel 82599ES? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:45:14 -0000 Thanks, Michael! I took a look at the manpage and it does appear that it is supported by the bge driver. It also states that the 572x controller is also supported, but I heard a rumor stating that the BCM5720 in particular did not work even though the manpage indicates it is supported. I was unable to verify this, but that's why I was asking for clarification. I will assume it works at this point. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Michael Butler wrote: > On 06/01/12 13:06, Rick Miller wrote: >> Thanks, Jack! >> >> Also another support question for the lists....Is the Broadcom BCM5719 >> supported? =A0I can find neither in the hardware notes for 8.3 nor 9.0. > > man bge > > --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:57:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9FD1065674; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanbru@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from mrout2.yahoo.com (mrout2.yahoo.com [216.145.54.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3048FC14; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (proxy7.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.98]) by mrout2.yahoo.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/y.out) with ESMTP id q51HvmeF078529; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:57:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=yahoo-inc.com; s=cobra; t=1338573469; bh=m79i1EzljS+UtDpQV1fMegrp79NxgDfn6M2Wjv51KjA=; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type: Date:Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Mp0ULNNTazxxg1l/rAPSX4J7y25at99Yv0KTHaIO2Z0JkWRgl71j8HN/4WG3k5j4a UYO258Wc1sbi5Y9eEBOpB4b4AiLC9Ot+wYuu4qF8SPSFnx/kvCDDwYSmPOdrpfFHvO lmGx+wVTfwpvzMrH5ewzOctNPHk1gvHS5IneUrjY= From: Sean Bruno To: Rick Miller In-Reply-To: References: <4FC8FB16.2090907@protected-networks.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:57:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1338573468.2990.2.camel@powernoodle-l7.corp.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Milter-Version: master.31+4-gbc07cd5+ X-CLX-ID: 573468002 Cc: Michael Butler , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Support for Intel 82599ES? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sbruno@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:57:56 -0000 On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 10:45 -0700, Rick Miller wrote: > BCM5720 I haven't gotten this working on my Dell R620 via bge(4), but we are actively working on it. Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 18:55:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E451C106564A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from its.code.in.here@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720AF8FC0C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so756826wib.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vZZ80R9e6ftFw0btI9cVuwpmtep9UvbUm/glW7Y8r2Y=; b=eS1Y6xbxLaJMf51DemKlt4pvFeX0tY9BLh9Ed7lNKoWTfHDVOIWdF/tLjdG9HhTigv Bakgw39+Q0jFDqEQU/Y0QdKqRUqnU/nONiYN4PZXF11iSzQ2sSIC9A0qkLh610vEWbm0 X9VdEcU8pdlFKgTUa5z3FuYFJDD3tQzzEILsoP1xd4WYzwM1isqBvcAKPwYMQvu81g1H R6YC2NCwYX34pQYpspMf1QuuFoQ82WhT3iXrJbwOza1vgg4CZWd8v1OfYCYIsq0WLGXW f/5ixQqhKS6ANvXDBMD0XGIkNbMd6XjD7yoBYkD/Lx4hkUABKD8/wXMLOTj/933X+fJK 5Aeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.69 with SMTP id l47mr2547140wei.44.1338576900375; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.95.201 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dwayne Henderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to crontab screen with script inside and a "don't run it if it's already running" check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:55:02 -0000 I run this Ruby script 24/7 (records data from this live stream). It runs inside a screen though, so it's easy to check in on it every once in a while. But how do I crontab the screen with the script inside it? It has to be with a "don't run it if it's already running" check. So far I have this (untested) - what y'all think? */10 * * * * lockf -t 0 /home/anonymous/.myscript.lock /usr/local/bin/screen -dm /home/anonymous/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p0/bin/ruby /home/anonymous/myscript.rb --Dwayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 19:41:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6F8106566C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3A4C8FC0A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jun 2012 19:41:15 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-245-016.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.245.16] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2012 21:41:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/bVBBztvjbXP7Fx9aVlNGumC+AS/g1KQfrE71hj6 2OpVn0TEBCamEq Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:39:00 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120601213900.2d0825b6.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__1_Jun_2012_21_39_00_+0200_kKYER_BH+K2tH=UV" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: How to crontab screen with script inside and a "don't run it if it's already running" check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:41:22 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__1_Jun_2012_21_39_00_+0200_kKYER_BH+K2tH=UV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:55:00 +0200 Dwayne Henderson wrote: DH> I run this Ruby script 24/7 (records data from this live stream). DH> It runs inside a screen though, so it's easy to check in on it DH> every once in a while. DH>=20 DH> But how do I crontab the screen with the script inside it? It has DH> to be with a "don't run it if it's already running" check. DH> [...] maybe you should create a shell alias. I do the following for my irssi session: # Start irssi within screen or switch to it if it is already running. alias irssi=3D'if pgrep -u $USER irssi;then screen -U -x irssi;else screen = -S irssi irssi;fi' Regards, Jens --=20 01. Brachet 2012, 21:37 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de It is a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for 2 years. -- Tom Lehrer --Signature=_Fri__1_Jun_2012_21_39_00_+0200_kKYER_BH+K2tH=UV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJPyRrZAAoJED2+SXzzbciGZiUM/iNJFirm2EYSHsJn6596v1u1 A4kuNDEyK978U6Ipl76C5IH3CMMzaV3+meuh6bzKtxHs6EwZ1YZ8yNjsWmzJxPm0 /WEsJd+LqZ3zKuZbm50YhEbndp9eZ4chY/EYEWYbgkEunzsRS29MgITGAyqCNpXn RydUnj/Dh6P/G8hQvFGpf0eNC7c3a8yQ8oji2xQorfQ5VRXeyO/RlsxmtpVqUc67 7qmNqBfzHIfU6h6MC/xAbFbbXjtBgDRvyVbZP/X5XlVyKcJ+QwKSinE+3A9xI91/ YC6X0+GWKIWDDAMGTc8Gz5daxL6E0z22iaJl9vfiek4CwiVCvKQNZRoJCu4isfnU zaHy51YN7MzKZ/iSeVqDQP8VG89l2KRVDOtKaVFwgm9T3Ept6vxrDXwsCPxl/dXo ngoKIFxuFNQOWxuB4X2Dph0mVAuucSAmfsfNvdpm7ipnhQgvJwxRPjKaNKQ+LC0D mmm1lbednzKXwMmt+F0TC31Vqhjoi05w3bC7IQ29Fr9WVA5wvj9ZdtapjCSjd+la OQpHRtLewzgoSAO1SIhx =NnyR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__1_Jun_2012_21_39_00_+0200_kKYER_BH+K2tH=UV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 19:51:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0C0106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9F78FC15 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q51JpcUY055349; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:51:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FC91D4A.4000609@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:51:38 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FC711F6.6040206@dreamchaser.org> <20120531135420.07939dbe.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FC7B7CD.9050204@dreamchaser.org> <20120531205620.344af89b.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FC7D7EF.3010304@dreamchaser.org> <20120601001628.db4b8c44.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120601001628.db4b8c44.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:51:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise ASUS M4A89TD mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:51:43 -0000 On 05/31/12 16:16, Polytropon wrote: > Impedance and level mismatch would be the typical reason > for this. But basically, it's not _much_ worse than using > an internal analog connection. Probably ok if you soldered it up so you didn't have the mismatch from crappy high impedance plug-in connections. You don't happen to know if the analog out (back of drive plug, not the headphone jack) impedance and signal level on a cd is close to matching the line-in on a card, do you? I'm guessing not. Most likely would smoke the card/mobo. >>> Okay, this means the mixer doesn't even have a CD audio >>> mixer channel. If I remember correctly, this channel is >>> directly associated to the internal audio connector which >>> is _not_ present in your system. >> >> You mean a cd mixer channel for digital audio only shows up >> if there is a physical analog audio input??? > > Oh god, I hope not! It looks to me like a digital audio channel won't show up under any circumstances; it will take a second bridge driver designed to eat cd digital audio, and the overarching sound driver could pick that up. > I really have no idea how digital audio output is actually > represented in the mixer. The "mixer" program will allow > you to manipulate the levels of channels that are reported > by the mixer driver (which in turn accesses the sound > hardware); if the "sound card" doesn't report to have > CD audio, the corresponding item won't be available. > > Additionally, I'm not sure if "forcing" a CD audio > output (no idea how, maybe by changing the driver's > source code?) could affect digital CD audio because > even though they serve the same purpose, they are > not related "in wires". >From my (limited) understanding as a result of this discussion, it looks to me like freebsd doesn't work with digital cd audio at all. If there's no general device to pick up digital audio from the cd, the only way the sound driver could get it would be for a bridge driver, or the sound driver itself, to pick up the cd digital audio and present it. It's difficult to believe that a normal sound bridge driver would be reaching out to a different device and doing that. As it stands, cd audio seems to work by picking up the analog audio output and converting it. Which is what you told me in the first place in less detail :-). Correct me if I'm wrong... > A possible way would be to use cdparanoia or something > like that to extract the data digitally, and then play > it; "then" also means "in a pipe". No real solution, > I admit. Thanks, may look into that. >> %cat /dev/sndstat >> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) >> Installed devices: >> pcm0: (play) >> pcm1: (play/rec) default >> pcm2: (play/rec) >> pcm3: (play) >> pcm4: (play) > > Do you maybe also have multiple mixer devices associated? > Check > % ls /dev/mixer* boatloads... mixer0 thru mixer4 Reading snd_hda I see now where they are coming from. thanks. 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f8sm989422ign.0.2012.06.01.14.30.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:30:45 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:30:34 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.8.3; i386; ; ) References: <4FC873F2.5030102@gmail.com> <4FC87E89.3050609@my.gd> <4FC88A78.2090902@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC88A78.2090902@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206011630.35183.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: Damien Fleuriot , Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports patch count X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:30:53 -0000 On Friday 01 June 2012 04:25:12 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 01/06/2012 09:34, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 6/1/12 9:49 AM, Brent Clark wrote: > >> Hiya > >> > >> I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen > >> on the FreeBSD ports. > >> > >> To show you what I mean. > >> > >> [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update; > >> pkg_version -vIL=; freebsd-update fetch install > >> auditfile.tbz 100% of 77 kB 6570 Bps > >> 00m00s > >> New database installed. > >> 0 problem(s) in your installed packages found. > >> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 9 mirrors found. > >> Fetching snapshot tag from geodns-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. > >> Fetching snapshot metadata... done. > >> Updating from Thu May 31 19:58:31 SAST 2012 to Fri Jun 1 08:51:05 SAST > >> 2012. > >> Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. > >> Applying metadata patches... done. > >> Fetching 0 metadata files... done. > >> Fetching 4180 patches.....10....20....30....40.... > >> > >> 4180 patches really !!! > >> > >> I run the above command almost everyday, so the most I have ever really > >> seen is 300 - 400 patches. But 4180 has got me attention. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Brent > > > > I may be mistaken but I would guess it has to do with the > > vulnerabilities addressed in OpenSSL in the 30/05/2012 update. > > > > I'm assuming authors have bumped their ports' revision numbers to force > > a rebuild, using the patched openssl lib. > > There might be a little of that, but most of the recent activity is > accounted for by > > * Numerous ports moving to the new OPTIONSng framework > > * Hundreds of PORTREVISION bumps after an update to graphics/png > > * Removal of old koffice ports and the import of the Calligra office > suite to replace it. > > Cheers, > > Matthew My system is FreeBSD 9.0 Release and the lst time I use Clang. It works very good but the lst problem was with Calligra which didn't built. As I red in /usr/ports/UPDATING I ran portmaster -r png- and there are so many ports which should be rebuild. My question is: Is it better (safer) to use gcc or try clang? Or is it better to not update png? Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 21:46:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EE3106566C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E028FC12 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so1946701vcb.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :x-kmail-markup:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:x-gm-message-state; bh=wAzZ06yJg2+vkGzgv4KrIw+LqrVFXBatBUsC8FBQoxA=; b=OQc0rlKjsTNoFwab8/EQsYIsoOROk5K8TwsQjSyOnGiu13WNjzXles7M56k40whR4L In8cSjpWR/KHcaqmYkvCA4FhioQTKcMu6tatAelueq/LMYy4PrZiMOMVZAelgNShQbeo Y11BQpXATvglpX7G3eF1lliHy+yVbVv920sZkyD+gP5qR9XwMRxcJzFJJSVA34C6ZODx bGlMCVv5KNsUXlAFnoJAktrsMrRVtr/8mngDOU1/KURmWUHfIHGYfULYh/ibhUIEjyf+ DJqo4L/MqaoI9rLqzb289+lXagMDBjoedz9Dj6Z5ml0kmdY7ouKZ053RghOkvqlPAS78 fN5A== Received: by 10.220.214.8 with SMTP id gy8mr4231864vcb.45.1338587183305; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.134.157.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m14sm4970913vdh.4.2012.06.01.14.46.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:46:51 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <9E.12.15580.45168CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <9E.12.15580.45168CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206011846.51116.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnVDJzgZy322i7tMYGxEvW2J2gHUS0IwnFGYStAaaTYcqP5dxeSLXN9SMpUESGRAumzX355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:46:25 -0000 On Friday 01 June 2012 03:29:40 Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I ddon't see any advantage in FreeBSD 8.x or earlier. Well, I still see complains about a few quirks in 9 here in the list, specially after certain src updates. Re:Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148 Re: kern/168190: [pf] panic when using pf and route-to (maybe: bad fragment handling?) Re: ULE/sched issues on stable/9 - why isn't preemption occurring? Etc .. To me, something like pf (specially route-to!) is critical and for the moment, I wouldn't touch my rock-solid-down-to-the-micro-second perfect production firewall 8-STABLE server for nothing, if the aim is such a role. I think that distribution set size is just not a very strong argument. OTOH, if the aim is just experimenting, that's another story. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 04:30:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636B9106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 04:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313D08FC12 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 04:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4BFA725F2 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 698 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2012 04:30:25 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21614, pid: 17849, t: 0.1453s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jun 2012 04:30:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4FC996E0.9070800@speakeasy.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:30:24 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC82537.2090305@speakeasy.org> <20120601070023.GA98123@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120601070023.GA98123@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail6.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: Re: MK_CLANG_IS_CC mis-formed when compiling ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 04:30:32 -0000 On 06/01/12 00:00, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 07:13:11PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> I built FrfeeBSD 9 with >> WITHOUT_CLANG="Yes" >> >> When I try to build the net/bwn-firmware-kmod/ >> >> I get an error that MK_CLANG_IS_CC is mis-formed. >> >> If I define this in make.conf, I get an error that the user may not set >> this. >> >> If I use 'make MK_CLANG_IS_CC="no"' the port compiles. >> >> How do I fix this? > > Why did you define WITHOUT_CLANG? > I think I am stuck at 9.x because of the clang stuff. I defined WITHOUT_CLANG to stop make buildworld from building clang. don't want it, don't need it.... Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 05:25:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1795B1065674 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518E58FC14 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:25:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26758422 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:25:38 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q525Pbfp042503 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:25:38 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q525PbKk042502 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:25:37 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:25:37 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120602052537.GA42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120531170035.GA29456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:25:47 -0000 Warren Block wrote: [dd] > >>> I have not done any tricky partition alignment, do I really need to? Is > >>> anything else advisable? > >> > >> If it's not aligned, there can be a pretty significant performance > >> drop. Please show the output of 'gpart show' on that drive if it's GPT > >> (gpart show ada0) or drive and slice if it's MBR/bsdlabel (gpart show > >> ada0 && gpart show ada0s1). > > > > It was created by the "Auto" option of the new FreeBSD installer: > > > > [sudakov@vas ~] gpart show ada0 > > => 34 117231341 ada0 GPT (55G) > > 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64k) > > 162 111148928 2 freebsd-ufs (53G) > > 111149090 5861376 3 freebsd-swap (2.8G) > > 117010466 220909 - free - (107M) > > That is not aligned, either with 4K or 1M: > (162*512)/4096 = 20.25 > > If the performance is good enough, leave it alone. Use > # diskinfo -tv /dev/ada0p2 > to get an optimistic version, or do some in-depth benchmarking with > benchmarks/bonnie++. > > To get it aligned, back up and repartition: [dd] Warren, Thank you very much for the useful tips. One more question regarding SSD. The FreeBSD installer enabled journaled soft-updates on the filesystem which resides on the SSD. Is it good, bad or irrelevant for the SSD ? /dev/ada0p2 on / (ufs, local, noatime, journaled soft-updates, nfsv4acls) -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 05:38:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA30106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2CC8FC12 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:38:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26758548 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:38:06 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q525c5FH042607 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:38:05 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q525c5Dp042606 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:38:05 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:38:05 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:38:08 -0000 I have installed 9.0-RELEASE on this motherboard with the following brief results: $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (play/rec) pcm2: (play) pcm3: (play) pcm4: (play) $ The devices /dev/dsp0, /dev/dsp1 even play to different audio outputs (front panel and rear panel). However, there are some more or less serious problems: 1. The "green" console screensaver does not poweroff the monitor. It just blanks the screen and sometimes displays white rubbish thereon. 2. It looses one of the HDDs during intensive read/write operations: Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 4 port 0 Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 000000c0 ss 000000f0 rs 000000f0 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c617 Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 00000001 ss 00000000 rs 00000001 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c017 Jun 2 00:57:20 vas kernel: ahcich1: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080) I shall of course check the HDD and cable, but they worked flawlessly on the previous system. 3. I had to run xorg in VESA mode, because xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_4 does not recognize the video chip on the motherboard on question. That is a pain! mplayer is incredibly slow on all movies. It complains that "your system is too slow to play this" and gives a plethora of obscure recommendations, but I basically thought that the sheer CPU power should be sufficient to play the video. Is there a solution which "just works"? Replacing mplayer with something else? Buying a video card (what model)? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:20:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0610E106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAA98FC0C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q528KID1035695; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:20:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q528KIIo035692; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:20:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:20:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Victor Sudakov In-Reply-To: <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:20:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:20:28 -0000 > 2. It looses one of the HDDs during intensive read/write operations: > > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 4 port 0 > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 000000c0 ss 000000f0 rs 000000f0 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c617 > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 00000001 ss 00000000 rs 00000001 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c017 > Jun 2 00:57:20 vas kernel: ahcich1: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080) > > I shall of course check the HDD and cable, but they worked flawlessly on > the previous system. well i've had such problems regularly with many motherboard. It happens often when you have many disks and put heavy load on them. And it is only result of poor hardware (not sure - poor controller, motherboard design, both?). i tried changing disks, ports, until i replaced this server with dell poweredge ;) if this is quite random, swapping ports change the behaviour but not solve it, swapping cables does not, yet there is no real rule when and why it happens you have same problem that i've had. > 3. I had to run xorg in VESA mode, because xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_4 does > not recognize the video chip on the motherboard on question. That is a tried this from ports? drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 18 maj 16:49 xf86-video-intel29 depends of hardware model. actually intel GFX is the only one i tolerate and it works. Eg the one in my lenovo G550 laptop needs 2.7 driver, the one builtin in Atom D525 processor needs 2.9 driver. Completely new intel GFX are not YET supported but that what i only heard as i don't have any of them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:23:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47E2106566B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455208FC1F for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q528N6XQ040147; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:23:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q528N5Uo040144; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:23:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:23:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Albert Shih In-Reply-To: <20120601162431.GA44290@pcjas.obspm.fr> Message-ID: References: <20120601052309.GA32942@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20120601162431.GA44290@pcjas.obspm.fr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:23:06 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:23:09 -0000 > When I say fast that's mean I already do some benchmarks with iozone. And > do some graphs to see what the performance are. > > What I can say is it's go lot faster than H700+ 12 disk 600 15k/min. i asked if it is faster than properly made UFS/gmirror/gstripe mix on the same hardware. > > And I do those tests on FreeBSD with 12 disk, 24 disk, 36 disk and finaly > 48 disk. would be nice. > All I can say is ZFS go faster than 12 disk with H700 (and ext3) almost > every time. if you compare to ext3 then maybe it is faster. compare to UFS. >> can be controlled by settings in loader.conf. > > Yes, but I think that's not a good idea to buy a server with 4 Go and make > him manage 100To through ZFS.... as for file server i don't see a reason to buy more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:24:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9731065673 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823BA8FC1E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q528OCv0040153; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:24:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q528OBfJ040150; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:24:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:24:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20120601153525.GA16874@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: References: <20120601163520.f130cdcd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120601153525.GA16874@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:24:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Kaya Saman , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:24:21 -0000 > On the other hand, even on a single-disk pool, ZFS stores two copies of all > metadata, so the chances of actually losing a directory block are extremely > remote. On mirrored or RAIDZ pools, you have at least four copies of all > metadata. i can only wish you to be lucky. sometimes lack of understanding make people happy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:29:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1304B106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753848FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q528TjW9040411; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:29:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q528TjOU040408; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:29:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:29:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:29:45 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:29:53 -0000 seems you like to incredibly complicated things. It just happens that i configured that printer in one office and there is NO NEED for this windows-style crappy shit from HP. /usr/ports/print/hplip (make config and disable GUI trash) is enough. scanning works directly to SMB exported shares or mails - just connect by WWW browser to http://yourprinterip and configure it. printing works fine with this lpr filter #!/bin/sh export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE \ -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" \ -sDeviceModel="deskjet 5600" -dIjsUseOutputFD -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 \ -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -r600 \ -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2 \ -sOutputFile=/tmp/$$ - >/dev/null cat /tmp/$$ rm /tmp/$$ that's all. Work for whole office without trash software installed on (windoze) workstation or unix server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:30:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161891065673 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742898FC28 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q528UpPa040419; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:30:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q528UoeN040416; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:30:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:30:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dennis Glatting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:30:51 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oscar Hodgson Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:30:54 -0000 > I have another storage server named bd3 that has a RAIDz2 array of 2.5T > drives (11 of them, IIRC) but it is presently powered down for maintenance. seems you don't need performance at all if you use RAIDz1/2 and ZFS. unless "performance" for you means how fast 1GB file are read linearly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:59:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB7C106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from its.code.in.here@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D96B8FC12 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so2607369wgb.31 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 01:59:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HrSeNpR/l45Iutw4gM0WhHBxVrFPXRnyqVg8u4d5c+U=; b=V74/YzYUskdMaT6nTAZ+NPk62A+rmdw3+7c9EF5NxwXbOnnTYw8Rl0rm5gwwzLSVwN c10c92GoLLl7GQ3tE6Oh2pCkGbetIaLE8MoUw6+rP+PWU1klhyC22AvAImnXx60n5iSC 7IrWFt9HYlUuVfzzIfy5UlcnPhcZEqYEdyS7JFgIofto+PRFMyHtn/glsgHZHgX5SSMA aRzMvrbE9V95uPo+QtF/DmAQFkl3iY5lNhs+xClFGW/rkJF3auTRd2cSUPo2rw20d7cv wosN8nFvSzFmQQsjxWk7MDSUoJ9eIxNuPm7FgcM0UHVqzamWUXtjM0hd0UFuEutkAmn5 34gw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.140.160 with SMTP id e32mr4878796wej.46.1338627549274; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 01:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.95.201 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 01:59:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120601213900.2d0825b6.jan0sch@gmx.net> References: <20120601213900.2d0825b6.jan0sch@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dwayne Henderson To: Jens Jahnke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to crontab screen with script inside and a "don't run it if it's already running" check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:59:11 -0000 Hello Jens! Nice. But what to do if the machine reboots or whatever. Would you crontab your new Irssi alias? --Dwayne On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Jens Jahnke wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:55:00 +0200 > Dwayne Henderson wrote: > > DH> I run this Ruby script 24/7 (records data from this live stream). > DH> It runs inside a screen though, so it's easy to check in on it > DH> every once in a while. > DH> > DH> But how do I crontab the screen with the script inside it? It has > DH> to be with a "don't run it if it's already running" check. > DH> [...] > > maybe you should create a shell alias. I do the following for my irssi > session: > > # Start irssi within screen or switch to it if it is already running. > alias irssi='if pgrep -u $USER irssi;then screen -U -x irssi;else screen > -S irssi irssi;fi' > > Regards, > > Jens > > -- > 01. Brachet 2012, 21:37 > Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de > > It is a sobering thought that when Mozart was > my age, he had been dead for 2 years. > -- Tom Lehrer > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 10:33:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD7B106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8908FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:33:10 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=HlmP93H0vYlMksaJPQV7egygo0t48yIUsQrnHyNCZd8= c=1 sm=0 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=44-7FOFWAAAA:8 a=g7Usc-vj5FPQdwJRw6MA:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:35076] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 2D/EC-32214-0EBE9CF4; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:33:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:33:04 -0400 Message-ID: <2D.EC.32214.0EBE9CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Mario Lobo Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:33:11 -0000 > Well, I still see complains about a few quirks in 9 here in the list, > specially after certain src updates. > Re:Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148 > Re: kern/168190: [pf] panic when using pf and route-to (maybe: bad fragment > handling?) > Re: ULE/sched issues on stable/9 - why isn't preemption occurring? > Etc .. > To me, something like pf (specially route-to!) is critical and for the moment, > I wouldn't touch my rock-solid-down-to-the-micro-second perfect production > firewall 8-STABLE server for nothing, if the aim is such a role. > I think that distribution set size is just not a very strong argument. > OTOH, if the aim is just experimenting, that's another story. > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) _______________________________________________ I suppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have FreeBSD 8.2_RELEASE i386 on an old computer, pinched for disk space and only 256 MB RAM, won't try upgrading in place. On the new computer, after not being able to boot NetBSD most of the time and never getting to a graphical interface, FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 was released, and I downloaded and installed that: a dream compared to NetBSD which didn't really like the new hardware. I never used the old computer as a server. For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash and other multimedia functionality, nor do you need a lot of RAM. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 10:45:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7205106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CD88FC1B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:45:49 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=twixd6A1rHKCw+3MOTIe0/+bhYCYfWrVDLkgnUZfdD8= c=1 sm=0 a=iHZnyJ6tsWsA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=XFZBYLv-S6n2TDhDIjQA:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:53353] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id C5/72-05368-CDEE9CF4; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:45:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:45:49 -0000 From: Wojciech Puchar : > seems you like to incredibly complicated things. > It just happens that i configured that printer in one office and there is > NO NEED for this windows-style crappy shit from HP. > /usr/ports/print/hplip (make config and disable GUI trash) is enough. > scanning works directly to SMB exported shares or mails - just connect by > WWW browser to http://yourprinterip and configure it. > printing works fine with this lpr filter > #!/bin/sh > export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin > /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE \ > -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" \ > -sDeviceModel="deskjet 5600" -dIjsUseOutputFD -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 \ > -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -r600 \ > -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2 \ > -sOutputFile=/tmp/$$ - >/dev/null > cat /tmp/$$ > rm /tmp/$$ > that's all. Work for whole office without trash software installed on > (windoze) workstation or unix server. _______________________________________________ Your message is worth saving, gives me some new ideas on getting that recalcitrant printer (HP M1212nf MFP) to work. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 10:57:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850C31065670 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF9B58FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Jun 2012 10:57:44 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-222-231.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.222.231] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 02 Jun 2012 12:57:44 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19LfdUIp2NLXS+mNRrYYxEF/m403mVMBu76VcqLnz YfdQ5krPpJYJmb Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:57:43 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120602125743.fea43448.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20120601213900.2d0825b6.jan0sch@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_12_57_43_+0200_m3aRBg_62zzZ+Eqy" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: How to crontab screen with script inside and a "don't run it if it's already running" check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:57:46 -0000 --Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_12_57_43_+0200_m3aRBg_62zzZ+Eqy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dwayne, On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:59:09 +0200 Dwayne Henderson wrote: DH> Nice. But what to do if the machine reboots or whatever. Would you DH> crontab your new Irssi alias? I'm not sure. On my remote box I usually start irssi by hand because it only ceases if the machine is rebooted. ;-) The current alias itself would probably cause problems in a crontab. But you could maybe wrap it into a modified if that only calls the alias if the pgrep command returns an empty result. Regards, Jens --=20 02. Brachet 2012, 12:54 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de Optimist, n.: A bagpiper with a beeper. --Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_12_57_43_+0200_m3aRBg_62zzZ+Eqy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJPyfGnAAoJED2+SXzzbciGogAM/i/xU57x0yr3YMsl0gM3Dodn 2aF02iu14iQlLToiLwAyhZWRzNH3vqH+oYx/pI1u9zkYqCXmFsWtY2TuQgIBdJh+ 4PlxXSo91G1Y+LFBHVW6z2QZw+joNVt9DhGr4aWAv3mpm9ZmED5YMJ/mtgYBXXJV 27vMOoS3AaCUtgVJUSti33gA1MUrq7GGqiUNbPpRgj8J77RposQdIseygwQgz97R njq/J5ZKC4o9yvtz3qJ+0C+HqYhKikdkmTZy9KfTynQ0q+Xwa450Nv4jTJVjKqsf D3nn5Y8CjrfRFgvhn+7SpdYzEmELWToPATv5gKZ0oqWpGCsI3aJxlZsT3PaxmXhJ 7pGaYaxZ9MLig+letEaT+mV6ifKa6GOO3ZY2MiOQRCfl6pDsKMaxklo+tDjMMZ+K az0SqS+LKURLHDkhh53tJZhWY7OGeb4ZC/3lOoQXW24ZsE2Nd+TmwqPgDNad+VHI QzguWUYuc20AfDvE++huSf59kC3wWPMQ+/tUV+SFQ3M77e3NB76zNK3/17UuB3TN JTG9TFtsmU9OYWa4+RQF =q+7/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_12_57_43_+0200_m3aRBg_62zzZ+Eqy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 11:09:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0F21065674 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E4B8FC18 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52B9PXV044150; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:09:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q52B9PFl044147; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:09:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:09:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:09:28 -0000 > > >> that's all. Work for whole office without trash software installed on >> (windoze) workstation or unix server. > _______________________________________________ > > Your message is worth saving, gives me some new ideas on getting that recalcitrant printer (HP M1212nf MFP) to work. > if you want mail my privately i have quite large practice in making "modern" printers to work normal way. i don't think there are HP printers that cannot be made to work normally. If not hplip or hpijs then /usr/ports/print/foo2zjs is your friend. Most probably this printer will need foo2... tools. And fortunately none of this solution requires CUPS, even if some ports are made so cups are installed (not a problem anyway) there is no need to use it. Normal (=="ancient") way of using printers under unix is to use lpd and write a filter that will translate at least postscript to printer's format. If your machine is a network server for windoze computers then use samba and just add printing = bsd load printers = yes in [global] and all your printers in /etc/printcap are available. Install generic postscript driver in windows. Actually - Any Apple postscript printer driver in windows XP (their postscript is actually compatible with postscript). this way you gain independence - changing printer doesn't need fooling with windows drivers, and you print from anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 11:17:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434B8106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6218FC1A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52BH8t8044229; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:17:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q52BH7kc044226; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:17:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:17:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: <2D.EC.32214.0EBE9CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Message-ID: References: <2D.EC.32214.0EBE9CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:17:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:17:14 -0000 > I suppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it. > > I have FreeBSD 8.2_RELEASE i386 on an old computer, pinched for disk space and only 256 MB RAM, won't try upgrading in place. > > On the new computer, after not being able to boot NetBSD most of the time and never getting to a graphical interface, FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 was released, and I downloaded and installed that: a dream compared to NetBSD which didn't really like the new hardware. I used NetBSD after using linux and before FreeBSD. Since v 1.6 and definitely since 2.0 NetBSD turned into bloatware, as well as crashware and slowware. Exactly as i predicted when new company were created and started "sponsoring" NetBSD too much. It is useless now. FreeBSD fortunately doesn't go that route, every new release is actually better, and bloatware required to get enough sponsoring is clearly separated from the real part, having no effect on base system if you don't use it. > I never used the old computer as a server. i do. Old computers for small scale server (small office, few users), New for larger. > > For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) > and other multimedia functionality, nor do you need a lot of RAM. depends what you run. Add spamassassin, clamav, squid and 512MB is quite a minimum, 256MB bearable with max few users and quita a bit of paging. Anything NEW, like cheapest dell poweredge server you can buy, is enough for even large office unless you do stupid things, or use virtualbox heavily. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 12:08:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2961065676 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from its.code.in.here@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80D78FC15 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1167213wib.13 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:08:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tT20i/f5oI/+jKJvGLjs3TLi3NITDpXZZrGE/R7QTbc=; b=yFcBe14Pi154lEbQKjAeSZNwiFj/3YOsXXnlqT5bowf0pEmPH0GD7etMqcNX+1Z7jE lMIIkeyRq6+E3uNAWMrav1hL/qXAAi5nRkcJBc8IQWNdFOxIpKUXkT3Z34eaZemaHpb7 o+8QM1KXMb7m0B9j1/k0ie/yO+NaEAGLL4lKJy/xONqC7F/5Q68dB5zh3CekNhh2IhJI amY0RQZlXyeF9Oy+JkmcDS77uixnqH+daSIG1LsMwlFp2iJx5nFJQbirO1jxca91Ry7G 3uH3JNx4mu+iQAaYwc+u9UZ/BaYbLiKeEJEDhN5juVIHlJlazvAOEKolzsEbZDhrrwyb BHLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.220.82 with SMTP id n60mr5221175wep.48.1338638929088; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.95.201 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:08:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120602125743.fea43448.jan0sch@gmx.net> References: <20120601213900.2d0825b6.jan0sch@gmx.net> <20120602125743.fea43448.jan0sch@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:08:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dwayne Henderson To: Jens Jahnke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to crontab screen with script inside and a "don't run it if it's already running" check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:08:51 -0000 Any comments on this though? */10 * * * * lockf -t 0 /home/anonymous/.myscript.lock /usr/local/bin/screen -dm /home/anonymous/.rvm/rubies/ ruby-1.9.3-p0/bin/ruby /home/anonymous/myscript.rb Thanks for the help! --Dwayne On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jens Jahnke wrote: > Hello Dwayne, > > On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:59:09 +0200 > Dwayne Henderson wrote: > > DH> Nice. But what to do if the machine reboots or whatever. Would you > DH> crontab your new Irssi alias? > > I'm not sure. On my remote box I usually start irssi by hand because it > only ceases if the machine is rebooted. ;-) > > The current alias itself would probably cause problems in > a crontab. But you could maybe wrap it into a modified if that only > calls the alias if the pgrep command returns an empty result. > > Regards, > > Jens > > -- > 02. Brachet 2012, 12:54 > Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de > > Optimist, n.: > A bagpiper with a beeper. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 12:39:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2191065674 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B768FC0C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Jun 2012 12:32:28 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-222-231.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.222.231] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 02 Jun 2012 14:32:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NrS55a0YNRf2nU0uVTQ5nV4pFsdYh8xnX5mgB9k aQfe8GD63tFPH/ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:32:26 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120602143226.05cc9dc5.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20120601213900.2d0825b6.jan0sch@gmx.net> <20120602125743.fea43448.jan0sch@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_14_32_26_+0200_.EHsbPJv5R9q7yQ/" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: How to crontab screen with script inside and a "don't run it if it's already running" check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:39:09 -0000 --Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_14_32_26_+0200_.EHsbPJv5R9q7yQ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:08:49 +0200 Dwayne Henderson wrote: DH> Any comments on this though? DH>=20 DH> */10 * * * * lockf -t 0 /home/anonymous/.myscript.lock DH> /usr/local/bin/screen -dm /home/anonymous/.rvm/rubies/ DH> ruby-1.9.3-p0/bin/ruby /home/anonymous/myscript.rb looks quite okay but as the manpage suggest I would add "-k" to lockf. Regards, Jens --=20 02. Brachet 2012, 14:30 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de If Love Were Oil, I'd Be About A Quart Low -- Book title by Lewis Grizzard --Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_14_32_26_+0200_.EHsbPJv5R9q7yQ/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJPygfaAAoJED2+SXzzbciGMNgNAJFAOCqV1orvxPaXIEi3DnXy YtFDc5PvzPgmzkiYx47unIPxCZ49d8WuwU8Pc6sA0OjPanES5ej3Gem7NEWnJ9Wo bg+2A5ik7U4w7oE8JeVLoW1HyCYWQl0pG2NHVu8B/20RIfKyfUZWWYqdSBG1PwH3 CA5VvV45Nx8O0ml8o6dcLtY1j65/8P3DZE5m3lR7Yix4VNJx1nwhbmv8K/tQVi/M 7WDYDeQ44qX4BYdfS5ltR+58nbQN90yEGwIxgpyQjpMub30s9s3MiRfD3A+AZp63 dND/JqnvWXgn6raneZszesKCoLR3bD4aIIiNkEaj08pf9EEcceWL1d6vuda4QnnQ RJhNzPFxjdpQFt7vY0zqaRNPyZShhF8hR4DgrsGOPHGfKsS5JdBkhBHVL7EiY382 kGqdSW+c2LQ9cjwTTGQAU95YlAROKYavFzcvFQxS4+D+siY6SfAJca65TaAZMFPl J+XmUgY3sHPwY2i1ATJVliqWIV+GOe30TvOq7AzOhq9u9nrB/c221J9xK4yN2ihb /2C9yGxZbjqJx8A+YqST =+SlR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__2_Jun_2012_14_32_26_+0200_.EHsbPJv5R9q7yQ/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 13:45:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879B2106566B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416B88FC14 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52DjDvd095824; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:45:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q52DjDOF095821; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:45:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:45:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Victor Sudakov In-Reply-To: <20120602052537.GA42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: References: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120531170035.GA29456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602052537.GA42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 07:45:13 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:45:14 -0000 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > Thank you very much for the useful tips. One more question regarding > SSD. The FreeBSD installer enabled journaled soft-updates on the > filesystem which resides on the SSD. Is it good, bad or irrelevant for > the SSD ? Mostly irrelevant, I think. I've been using just ordinary soft updates as there is bug fixing going on with SU+J. fsck on the SSD is very fast anyway, so SU+J is needed less. And there's a little less writing because there is no journal. But then, I've left atime on, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 15:09:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44426106566B; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FBD8FC08; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5BF5E18E; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:08:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.626 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.626 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.628, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DTo9zC+H7KLV; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:08:32 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bsdpc01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 887B75E167; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:09:34 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dougb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:09:37 -0000 I'm thinking about some kind of information on the build progress when one does larger updates like the newly recommendation in /usr/ports/UPDATING portmaster -r png- I myself have three machines with different capacity when it comes to building ports. How about a knobb one could choose that would give information after finishing building one port and before beginning on the next one, that would be something like: finishing foo port xx ports remaining or something in that order. At least it would informative for me to get an idea of how far in the process the machine is. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 16:28:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991BD1065675 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3378FC1F for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52GSZFJ018514; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:28:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q52GSZ8a018511; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:28:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:28:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120531025206.GA11699@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120531170035.GA29456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602052537.GA42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 on SSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:28:38 -0000 >> filesystem which resides on the SSD. Is it good, bad or irrelevant for >> the SSD ? > > Mostly irrelevant, I think. I've been using just ordinary soft updates as > there is bug fixing going on with SU+J. fsck on the SSD is very fast anyway, > so SU+J is needed less. And there's a little less writing because there is > no journal. But then, I've left atime on, too. > _______________________________________________ i have FreeBSD 9 and SSD (OCZ Agility 3 "60GB") DO NOT use any kind of journalling - this increase writes and wear, while fsck takes <10 seconds for me. do use -t option for newfs. make sure your FS partition is aligned to 4 kilobytes. All these web advices about aligning to 1MB is classic pure nonsense (most often used NTFS aligns to 4kB anyway). run without swap or make pseudo-dynamic swap with mdconfig ;) My config: 1) no MSDOS partitions (slices). not needed no matter if it is SSD or not. unless you run windoze too. 2) single partition for FreeBSD, SSD are not huge and wasting space for partitions isn't smart. example: # /dev/ada0: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 117231408 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 c: 117231408 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit 3) newfs -m 0 -i 16384 -b 8192 -f 1024 -U -t /dev/ada0a or similar settings. maybe you can run with less inodes (in my case i've got 3.6M inodes). for rare case swapping i do in /etc/rc.local #!/bin/sh echo creating swapfile /bin/rm -f /swapfile.tmp dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile.tmp bs=8m seek=1k count=0 /sbin/mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f /swapfile.tmp || /bin/sh /bin/rm -f /swapfile.tmp /sbin/swapctl -a /dev/md0 and in /etc/rc.shutdown.local #!/bin/sh echo removing swapfile /sbin/swapctl -d /dev/md0 /sbin/mdconfig -d -u 0 this will allocate 8GB file with holes, space would be allocated when actually needed, and deallocated on shutdown. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 16:40:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64348106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AA08FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:40:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26764504 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:40:26 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52GePVh047492 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:40:26 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q52GePT0047491 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:40:25 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:40:25 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:40:29 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > 2. It looses one of the HDDs during intensive read/write operations: > > > > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 4 port 0 > > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 000000c0 ss 000000f0 rs 000000f0 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c617 > > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 > > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 00000001 ss 00000000 rs 00000001 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c017 > > Jun 2 00:57:20 vas kernel: ahcich1: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080) > > > > I shall of course check the HDD and cable, but they worked flawlessly on > > the previous system. > > well i've had such problems regularly with many motherboard. It happens > often when you have many disks and put heavy load on them. Indeed this happens under load. I would not call it particularly heavy though, it's more like moving large files between zfs datasets causes the loss of drive. > And it is only > result of poor hardware (not sure - poor controller, motherboard design, > both?). > > i tried changing disks, ports, until i replaced this server with dell > poweredge ;) Can we be sure that it is not a bug in the ahci or ada driver? Is there a way to reinit and reattach the failed drive? > > if this is quite random, swapping ports change the behaviour but not > solve it, swapping cables does not, yet there is no real rule when and why > it happens you have same problem that i've had. Could it have been a power problem? > > 3. I had to run xorg in VESA mode, because xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_4 does > > not recognize the video chip on the motherboard on question. That is a > > tried this from ports? > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 18 maj 16:49 xf86-video-intel29 Yes, I have too. It says "no device detected" or something like that. > > depends of hardware model. > > actually intel GFX is the only one i tolerate and it works. > > Eg the one in my lenovo G550 laptop needs 2.7 driver, the one builtin in > Atom D525 processor needs 2.9 driver. > > Completely new intel GFX are not YET supported but that what i only > heard as i don't have any of them. What video card would the collective mind of FreeBSD users recommend? I'm not a gamer, this box runs FreeBSD only with a recent xorg, I often watch movies on it. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 17:14:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBEC106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588328FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:14:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:04:32 +0200 Message-ID: <4FCA479F.3020109@ose.nl> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:04:31 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> In-Reply-To: <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:14:40 -0000 On 06/02/2012 06:59 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the > bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because. > > The previous threads before this message should have been on a web form > or questions@ as they are completely out of control. > > why not to use FreeBSD should go on questions Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 17:22:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65927106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77F21A7E65; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:18:03 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:22:12 -0000 On 6/2/2012 8:09 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I'm thinking about some kind of information on the build progress Portmaster already has that if you're building in a terminal window, look in the titlebar. I can take a look at printing that in line if you're not in a terminal window though. hope this helps, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 17:57:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF73E1065670 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC318FC1A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD757.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.215.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q52HvRDH057507 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:57:27 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q52HvFB7055630 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:57:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q52Hv9Iq036014 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:57:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206021757.q52Hv9Iq036014@fire.js.berklix.net> To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:59:25 EDT." <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:57:09 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Subject: Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:57:35 -0000 Jason Hellenthal wrote: > Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the > bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because. Agreed ! Many replies were sent to Wrong lists. Original poster & respondents abused stable@ & questions@ Cross posting 2 lists un-necessarily, despite: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL "C.1.3 List Charters Rules of the road: No posting should be made to more than 2 mailing lists, and only to 2 when a clear and obvious need ..." There was a desire, as always, but no need. (so I removed cc: stable@ on this post, to avoid this post also breaking that rule, (on the basis that stable@ readership are more likely to already know about Not cross posting, & using the Right list, as questions@ started as a target list to point clueless new users to, from /etc/motd. (It was expected as users grew experienced, they'd subscribe other lists themed to their interests.))) Noise was emitted to lists with wrong remits. advocacy@freebsd.org exists for promo. talk inc. re. wiki. Please read list remits, & conform to them, & subscribe appropriate lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy "Furthering the Use of FreeBSD Share ideas and plan to increase the number of companies and individuals using FreeBSD" http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable "This is the mailing list for users of freebsd-stable. the stable cvsup target is built from the latest official RELEASE with the addition of critical bug fixes." http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions "This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical." Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 18:22:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09BA106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ADD8FC0A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 50A5C58D68; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:22:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52ILwIn002970; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:21:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q52ILwq5002969; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:21:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:21:58 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Damien Fleuriot Message-ID: <20120602182158.GA2567@schweikhardt.net> References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> <06FDC7DD-6794-43CB-BAFE-E70DE23DCA7E@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <06FDC7DD-6794-43CB-BAFE-E70DE23DCA7E@my.gd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:22:09 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 08:26:21PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: ... # > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I # > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever # > growing list of # > # > ugen4.2: at usbus4 # > umass2: on usbus4 # > ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) # > umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) # > # > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 # > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for # > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down # > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the # > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is # > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? # > # > Regards, # > # > Jens # # Logic dictates that you try with GENERIC, see if that works any better ;) I tried with a GENERIC from -CURRENT, the detection message is somewhat different: ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass0:10:0:-1: Attached to scbus10 However still no device nodes, AFAICT. Using "camcontrol rescan all" followed by "camcontrol devlist" does not show the drive. Any chance I can get this drive going on USB 3? Could the problem be the quirk = 0x0100? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 18:25:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE74106566B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBC28FC0A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so6064363obc.13 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HI9R84dRFEvgjB2xP58GuTsIdcSsZtzpp5Cd0kJmZsI=; b=uQa+l/wXX0azresu2uHrY14dS75gI4b2+rzwewINVU4ZAcSBqZDJDB5XljxXO9L7G1 4wXjFTnAMOjYNRiBQHyDTQk4W9bXMeBjSDYNaKOspCR4pqOq7ICXC20G3E2apSNXK2Db TMbsxtH34mjIoggAHeIBuU4xoi/ad3d/pXMBrEmr5faF7MqTs6MzROXy0d+hcqpAgXDM n2cixOdQXRaQW3VRmtx/mDlg2zPWIT5JCVgggIFW8GqHjBfS++D3ayBIed07e0ANylxE TAqkiTT1vhQ0Czl67cJbKEzxO8SlqlzCSmol4AeN5LWZQTn4H+W26Uuz1qxHTCvgPSxP w4xw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.2.35 with SMTP id 3mr6841691oer.63.1338661552416; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206021757.q52Hv9Iq036014@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> <201206021757.q52Hv9Iq036014@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:25:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:25:53 -0000 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Jason Hellenthal wrote: > > Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the > > bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because. > > Agreed ! Many replies were sent to Wrong lists. > > Original poster & respondents abused stable@ & questions@ > Cross posting 2 lists un-necessarily, despite: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > "C.1.3 List Charters > Rules of the road: > No posting should be made to more than 2 > mailing lists, and only to 2 when a clear > and obvious need ..." > > There was a desire, as always, but no need. (so I > removed cc: stable@ on this post, to avoid this > post also breaking that rule, (on the basis that > stable@ readership are more likely to already know > about Not cross posting, & using the Right list, > as questions@ started as a target list to point > clueless new users to, from /etc/motd. (It was > expected as users grew experienced, they'd subscribe > other lists themed to their interests.))) > > Noise was emitted to lists with wrong remits. > advocacy@freebsd.org exists for promo. talk inc. re. wiki. > > Please read list remits, & conform to them, & subscribe appropriate lists. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > "Furthering the Use of FreeBSD > Share ideas and plan to increase the number of > companies and individuals using FreeBSD" > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > "This is the mailing list for users of freebsd-stable. > the stable cvsup target is built from the latest > official RELEASE with the addition of critical bug fixes." > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > "This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. > You should not send "how to" questions to the > technical lists unless you consider the question > to be pretty technical." > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich > http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, > quoted-printable. > Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ The question "Why are you using FreeBSD ?" was a very good one , but , in my opinion , other side "Why are you not using FreeBSD?" would be appropriate , because in engineering , everything for any subject is - Advantages - Disadvantages When "Disadvantages" is NOT evaluated sufficiently well , the results mostly will be unpredictable . Instead of corrupting the original thread , I wanted to help to cover the other side in parallel to the original question . If you think , my response is unconscious , here is the my subscription list to FreeBSD mailing lists : freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org freebsd-announce@freebsd.org freebsd-chromium@freebsd.org freebsd-arch@freebsd.org freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org freebsd-current@freebsd.org freebsd-database@freebsd.org freebsd-doc@freebsd.org freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org freebsd-net@freebsd.org freebsd-performance@freebsd.org freebsd-ports@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-small@freebsd.org freebsd-stable@freebsd.org freebsd-standards@freebsd.org freebsd-threads@freebsd.org freebsd-x11@freebsd.org freebsd-rc@freebsd.org freebsd-pf@freebsd.org freebsd-apache@freebsd.org freebsd-usb@freebsd.org freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org freebsd-office@freebsd.org freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 19:08:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49378106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA528FC14 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor18.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.1]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0505F5AEF for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:07:56 +0400 (MSK) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:07:45 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:08:05 -0000 Hello. 2012/06/02 23:40:25 +0700 Victor Sudakov => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : VS> What video card would the collective mind of FreeBSD users recommend? VS> I'm not a gamer, this box runs FreeBSD only with a recent xorg, I VS> often watch movies on it. I'd try with nvidia. Any modern one has support of 'xvideo' extension with the 'driver nv' that is 'just enough' for watching movies. I've no modern hardware but the model that works good for years for me is: tnt2 agp 32M. Just the same as out of every TransNeft's trashcan around the corner these days. ;-) -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 19:20:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A64106566B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.gain@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEBE8FC16 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so2903679wgb.31 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:20:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TO6u4mF0AfmArCwh8Wvsd/4q5lNe0lsUSSHFHanxhi0=; b=jTAADeMs5P7FUgm09+Qv0hoIdlJn9zquHEISqYFfVBIfLVCueew2NG50+/M7ZeFTQF +ppxxgB1f+Yg+Yfg/gsONV/08YlnSpdF5Iu5L/5m7diOTTRfuvTXgiU0lVbKH7WeLrU7 h0+MMl9SVGgio8yGWUcDdIXB4MRwHGf5KlCvCqbuZ85MKS6y7Yb84uaV6W4YmuJ1gJzk 9QC3oS4f9l2Fzm6Ao4iW9vGXqkqbTyB+/naCWf3QYOlaeJDo/yZJzD72y/g5cB37xlQi +fn4zTlLfLu/aBd597l5dRYmpsLp8oNdYoH/gN6RET0EDYvr9FOKdFZCoEDQvdJkuY6x B2RQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.144.139 with SMTP id n11mr5748499wej.30.1338664834306; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.185.84 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:20:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> <201206021757.q52Hv9Iq036014@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:20:34 +0200 Message-ID: From: Joe Gain To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:20:36 -0000 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote= : > >> Jason Hellenthal wrote: >> > Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the >> > bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because. >> >> Agreed ! =A0Many replies were sent to Wrong lists. >> >> Original poster & respondents abused stable@ & questions@ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cross posting 2 lists un-necessarily, despite: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.htm= l#ERESOURCES-MAIL >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"C.1.3 List Charters >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rules of the road: >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0No posting should be made= to more than 2 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mailing lists, and only t= o 2 when a clear >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and obvious need ..." >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0There was a desire, as always, but no nee= d. =A0(so I >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0removed cc: stable@ on this post, to avoi= d this >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0post also breaking that rule, (on the bas= is that >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0stable@ readership are more likely to alr= eady know >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0about Not cross posting, & using the Righ= t list, >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0as questions@ started as a target list to= point >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0clueless new users to, from /etc/motd. = =A0(It was >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0expected as users grew experienced, they'= d subscribe >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0other lists themed to their interests.))) >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Noise was emitted to lists with wrong remits. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0advocacy@freebsd.org exists for promo. ta= lk inc. re. wiki. >> >> Please read list remits, & conform to them, & subscribe appropriate list= s. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocac= y >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Furthering the Use of FreeBSD >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Share ideas and plan to increase the numb= er of >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0companies and individuals using FreeBSD" >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"This is the mailing list for users of fr= eebsd-stable. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the stable cvsup target is built from the= latest >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0official RELEASE with the addition of cri= tical bug fixes." >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questio= ns >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"This is the mailing list for questions a= bout FreeBSD. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0You should not send "how to" questions to= the >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0technical lists unless you consider the q= uestion >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to be pretty technical." >> >> Cheers, >> Julian >> -- >> Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich >> http://berklix.com >> =A0Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "= > ". >> =A0Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, >> quoted-printable. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. =A0http://berklix.org/y= ahoo/ > > > > The question "Why are you using FreeBSD ?" was a very good one , but , in > my opinion , other side "Why are you not using FreeBSD?" would be > appropriate , because in engineering , everything for any subject is I don't think these kinds of _very_ general questions are really helpful and there are a lot of them. I guess, because there are no sales representatives givi= ng people advice about FreeBSD, people feel more confident when they get some advice from a mailing list about what sought of hardware people have used t= o successfully do some task or other. Especially, when this involves buying something expensive. But in general, why are you using/ not using operating system 'x' is not a = good question because there are so many variables and you can't compare the results in any really conclusive way. The best thing is to just try it, and anyway, *with FreeBSD the software it= self will not cost you any money*. Maybe you will be surprised, maybe you won't = be. I mean there is no single specific task that general purpose OSs like FreeB= SD are designed for. > > - Advantages > - Disadvantages > > When "Disadvantages" is NOT evaluated sufficiently well , the results > mostly will be unpredictable . I think, it's fair to say that the results will be somewhat unpredictable, = maybe in a positive way, maybe not. > > Instead of corrupting the original thread , I wanted to help to cover the > other side in parallel to the > original question . > > If you think , my response is unconscious , here is the my subscription > list to FreeBSD mailing lists : > > > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > freebsd-announce@freebsd.org > freebsd-chromium@freebsd.org > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org > freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org > freebsd-current@freebsd.org > freebsd-database@freebsd.org > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org > freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org > freebsd-net@freebsd.org > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > freebsd-small@freebsd.org > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > freebsd-standards@freebsd.org > freebsd-threads@freebsd.org > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org > freebsd-rc@freebsd.org > freebsd-pf@freebsd.org > freebsd-apache@freebsd.org > freebsd-usb@freebsd.org > freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org > freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org > freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org > freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org > freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org > freebsd-office@freebsd.org > freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org > > > Thank you very much . > > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 joe gain jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 78464 konstanz germany +49 (0)7531 60389 (...otherwise in ???) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 19:31:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11797106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB5A8FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB2A70708 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18579 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2012 19:31:13 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 20332, pid: 17105, t: 0.1973s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jun 2012 19:31:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4FCA6A00.2090701@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:31:12 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail8.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:31:15 -0000 On 06/02/12 12:07, Peter Vereshagin wrote: I am using a MSI N210 w/ FreeBSD 9-Stable. Seems to work Ok. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 19:32:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6925C106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233488FC0A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC7F28C28; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:32:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q52JWIkP005259; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:32:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:32:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Peter Vereshagin Message-Id: <20120602213218.f0f3888c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:32:21 -0000 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:07:45 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2012/06/02 23:40:25 +0700 Victor Sudakov => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > VS> What video card would the collective mind of FreeBSD users recommend? > VS> I'm not a gamer, this box runs FreeBSD only with a recent xorg, I > VS> often watch movies on it. > > I'd try with nvidia. Any modern one has support of 'xvideo' extension with the > 'driver nv' that is 'just enough' for watching movies. I'm also using nVidia GeForce 7600 GS (G73) here, using the "nvidia" driver and the kernel module. Works very good, except my GPU is broken and occassionally freezes the whole system in an unpredictable manner. :-) Previously I've been using an ATI Radeon 9200 (RV250) with less trouble, using XFree86's (and later on X.org's) stock "ati" driver. Any not-too-recent card should work fine. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 22:06:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3724A1065673 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24D88FC12 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52M6oB3088040; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:06:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q52M6oM0088037; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:06:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:06:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120602213218.f0f3888c.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> <20120602213218.f0f3888c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:06:54 -0000 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:07:45 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: >> Hello. >> >> 2012/06/02 23:40:25 +0700 Victor Sudakov => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : >> VS> What video card would the collective mind of FreeBSD users recommend? >> VS> I'm not a gamer, this box runs FreeBSD only with a recent xorg, I >> VS> often watch movies on it. >> >> I'd try with nvidia. Any modern one has support of 'xvideo' extension with the >> 'driver nv' that is 'just enough' for watching movies. > > I'm also using nVidia GeForce 7600 GS (G73) here, using the > "nvidia" driver and the kernel module. Works very good, except > my GPU is broken and occassionally freezes the whole system > in an unpredictable manner. :-) > > Previously I've been using an ATI Radeon 9200 (RV250) with > less trouble, using XFree86's (and later on X.org's) stock > "ati" driver. > > Any not-too-recent card should work fine. More specifically, up to 4000-series Radeons. The HD4650 works well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 22:39:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0146106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 619438FC08 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27199 invoked by uid 110); 2 Jun 2012 22:32:52 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2012 22:32:52 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:32:39 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20120602223934.D0146106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:39:34 -0000 This thread confused me. Is the conclusion of this thread that ZFS is slow and breaks beyond recovery? I keep seeing two sides to this coin. I can't decide whether to use ZFS or hardware RAID. Why does EMC use hardware RAID? -Simon