From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 00:09:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04D01065672 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9966A8FC12 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5308tQw065931; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:08:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:08:55 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:09:03 -0000 On 06/02/12 02:29, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > seems you like to incredibly complicated things. No, but it does seem like I did, hopefully unnecessarily... Thanks. > /usr/ports/print/hplip (make config and disable GUI trash) is enough. ... > printing works fine with this lpr filter > > #!/bin/sh > export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin > /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE \ > -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" \ > -sDeviceModel="deskjet 5600" -dIjsUseOutputFD -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 \ > -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -r600 \ > -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2 \ > -sOutputFile=/tmp/$$ - >/dev/null > cat /tmp/$$ > rm /tmp/$$ I've deinstalled cups and its dependencies and rebuilt only hpijs. lpr works to the printer for the simple demo text filter hp supplies (The printer is directly connected to the network, not via USB or parallel port) However, when I try to use gs + hpijs as a filter, it fails. There are a number of gs_xxxxxx and nnnnn files left in /tmp, zero length. The nnnnn files are the OutputFile from the filter (I commented out the rm). The nnnnn files are one number larger than the pid for lpd indicated in the log, no surprise there. the log shows: Jun 2 16:58:18 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: lp: lost connection Jun 2 16:58:18 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: restarting lp unable to set device=HP Officejet Pro 8500 a909g hpijs, err=16 unable to read client data err=-2 Jun 2 16:38:54 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: lp: lost connection Jun 2 16:38:54 fbsdbox lpd[10367: lp: job could not be sent to remote host ... Jun 2 16:38:54 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: mail sent to user garya about job on printer lp (FATALERR) The .ppd.gz file was not located in the path exported from the filter script. However, when I put /usr/local/share/ppd/HP in the path, it made no difference. Where are your .ppd files or .ppd.gz files located? Also, the ppd.gz files from the port *did not* include any ppd.gz file for this printer. However, the cups port did, but they were installed elsewhere. So I just copied them over, but I'm wondering if there is a db or internal cache somewhere that has to be rebuilt. It looks to me like it is unable to locate a .ppd.gz or .ppd which matches the device name "enough" to be used. Anyone know who is generating the error what err=16 is exactly how to get the path it is searching what the match criteria is? ..... Ok, I tweeked /etc/printcap and the filter to call the printer a "DESKJET 960" and it worked. So one obviously has to do more than just supply the correct .ppd.gz file in the correct spot. ideas? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 00:36:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3978106566C for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0718FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DC727E91; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 02:35:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q530Zqpe007042; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 02:35:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 02:35:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Aitken Message-Id: <20120603023552.acd054ac.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:36:36 -0000 On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:08:55 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I've deinstalled cups and its dependencies and rebuilt only hpijs. You could have kept it installed (maybe some ports will want it as a dependency), just disable it in /etc/rc.conf. > lpr works to the printer for the simple demo text filter hp supplies > (The printer is directly connected to the network, not via USB or parallel port) > However, when I try to use gs + hpijs as a filter, it fails. Did you write your own filter? For comparison: I'm using a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex here, networked, with /opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh being the filter for use with duplexing: #!/bin/sh printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ -sDEVICE=ljet4d -dDuplex=true \ -sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 exit 2 The entry for this printer in /etc/printcap is: Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ :rm=192.168.100.100:\ :rp=raw:\ :lp=:\ :if=/opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: The name "Laserjet" is set in $PRINTER as the system's default printer. There's also "Laserjet-nodup" where the filter simply omits the duplexing functionality. I assume you did something similarly? > the log shows: > Jun 2 16:58:18 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: lp: lost connection > Jun 2 16:58:18 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: restarting lp > unable to set device=HP Officejet Pro 8500 a909g hpijs, err=16 > unable to read client data err=-2 > Jun 2 16:38:54 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: lp: lost connection > Jun 2 16:38:54 fbsdbox lpd[10367: lp: job could not be sent to remote host ... > Jun 2 16:38:54 fbsdbox lpd[10367]: mail sent to user garya about job on printer lp (FATALERR) Can you provide the command you've used for printing? By default, the printer subsystem accepts PS (which is the normal printing output format of _any_ printing application). CUPS, as well as apsfilter, offer some built-in functionality for converting data from non-PS (e. g. text, images) to PS when you call lpr, for example: % lpr picture.jpg % lpr source.c % lpr stuff.txt As long as you print PS (or from any application within X that outputs PS), this shouldn't be an issue for you. > The .ppd.gz file was not located in the path exported from the filter script. > However, when I put /usr/local/share/ppd/HP in the path, it made no difference. > Where are your .ppd files or .ppd.gz files located? Depends. CUPS puts them into /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd, there's also the possibility that other tools that handle PPD files search for them in a location defined in their documentation. For example, the CUPS ppd files are already extracted. > Also, the ppd.gz files from the port *did not* include any > ppd.gz file for this printer. However, the cups port did, > but they were installed elsewhere. So I just copied them > over, but I'm wondering if there is a db or internal cache > somewhere that has to be rebuilt. The ppd handling tool usually manages that. > It looks to me like it is unable to locate a .ppd.gz or .ppd > which matches the device name "enough" to be used. Anyone know > who is generating the error It's lpd (see message). It's accessing a printer called "lp" (does it exist with tha name?) and loses the connection, and try to restart it. The inability is expressed as "unable to set device=HP Officejet Pro 8500 a909g hpijs", I'm not sure if spaces are allowed? (Check "man 5 printcap" to be sure.) > Ok, I tweeked /etc/printcap and the filter to call the printer > a "DESKJET 960" and it worked. Is your $PRINTER set to this name? In that case, you could easily move from "lp" (the default name) to omitting -P in the lp* commands. > So one obviously has to do more than just supply the correct > .ppd.gz file in the correct spot. Right. If you look into a .ppd file, you'll see PostScript in there. It's (highly inaccurately described) code that instructs the PS interpreter (usually gs) on how to create the correct output language for the particular printer, tell details about options and parameters of the printer (such as paper feeds, duplexer, paper sizes and so on). > ideas? Some of your code (scripts and commands) would help (at least me) to understand your current state better. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 00:48:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35C71065673 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EFE8FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so1026719qab.13 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:48:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ybmT87lexbIRjRSYxy1OWOr+Itjh1mhUNT8kiz7b1ZA=; b=trWKemrXWQtzRPTY48DU0lWZJIi+D2YweGrBMtxqRRGy9vQuV2m4KnXFTp9Dcy8T4W 1ohTqal4PtQPCEDYH7o2yqAhPX5ivQcYzaLoZlFdv4/PoK93RPUVcjjqL/ZoXtWbrzHv Ba9D9DC7zXO3ojSb6tjLQL9S1ciOprxvgkwfwIkBXxXAIqUO+Z5qIcgod3BtW0DQ9DC6 QuFmp+Y0bWFR/YJGhMZFLwD5QNQ5gh8uPDy2LzNskNOZVO5ZWMcT+f01r3P0bK1iS2Jx s7QTY6TSdeTIh95wlMTuC0d8qCdbgEKdy7LD/eieLeJKJS//u6I7vc0+J3cB1LBSIP9U o4pQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.179.18 with SMTP id bo18mr2624285qab.93.1338684492498; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.25.199 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:48:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120602223934.D0146106564A@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20120602223934.D0146106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:48:11 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: Simon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:48:18 -0000 >> This thread confused me. Is the conclusion of this thread that ZFS is slow >> and breaks beyond recovery? I've personally experienced no problems with ZFS. The performance has been on par with UFS as far as I can tell. Sometimes it's a little faster, sometimes a little slower depending on the situation, but nothing dramatic on either end. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 02:45:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31661065672 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 02:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A443E8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 02:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3W4kCc6jXgz82; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:44:19 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Simon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <28E46800DA3FF0CE6CA74C69@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20120602223934.D0146106564A@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20120602223934.D0146106564A@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:45:23 -0000 --As of June 2, 2012 6:32:39 PM -0400, Simon is alleged to have said: > This thread confused me. Is the conclusion of this thread that ZFS is > slow and breaks beyond recovery? I keep seeing two sides to this coin. I > can't decide whether to use ZFS or hardware RAID. Why does EMC use > hardware RAID? --As for the rest, it is mine. It appears to be the conclusion of Wojciech Puchar that ZFS is slow, and breaks beyond recovery. The rest of us don't appear to have issues. I will agree that ZFS could use a good worst-case scenario 'fsck' like tool. However, between at home and at work (where it's used on Solaris), the only time I've ever been in a situation where it would be needed was when I was playing with the disks in several low-level tools; the situation was entirely self-inflicted, and would have caused major trouble for any file system. (If I'd been storing data on it, I would have needed to go to backups. Again, this would have been the case for any file system.) ZFS can be a complicated beast: It's not the best choice for a single, small, disk. It may take tuning to work to it's full potential, and it's fairly resource-intensive. However, for large storage sets there is no other file system out there at the moment that's as flexible, or as useful, in my opinion. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 04:21:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB74106564A; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7DD8FC08; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q534LRQg007521; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:21:29 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:21:26 +0700 Message-ID: <12629991.7WcxrTWL1P@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> <201206021757.q52Hv9Iq036014@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:21:38 -0000 Hi, On 02 June 2012 AM 11:25:52 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Thank you very much . > this is the same what I new comer from Windows will say after getting responses like this. He will then take out his Windows installation medium and feel happy with Windows. Every neighbour will be willing to help without a discussion about how this should be done. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 04:21:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB74106564A; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7DD8FC08; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q534LRQg007521; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:21:29 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:21:26 +0700 Message-ID: <12629991.7WcxrTWL1P@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20120602165925.GA96911@DataIX.net> <201206021757.q52Hv9Iq036014@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:21:38 -0000 Hi, On 02 June 2012 AM 11:25:52 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Thank you very much . > this is the same what I new comer from Windows will say after getting responses like this. He will then take out his Windows installation medium and feel happy with Windows. Every neighbour will be willing to help without a discussion about how this should be done. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 05:42:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B734106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 05:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9718FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 05:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so4920736pbb.13 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:42:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=vTc1siNT1CZxyV8eg+pyu1FIGLFJREmYr/TljUGr5bI=; b=L3M+nDcyX0x+3fG//HX8tktEgZraG0Oh9a8/7Lfvop58qby316HIhd86h4wkXzXWEa iXpa/O4U+OpzEV2L4g/PsWDQXbDzaOtIzKfUvlfUDHsPSLxmEUn05jmIWq2B+qX9ctaL 7ssDjwOxsDTS2QRIkcyQjGthVAXmyDgc8lZJKOpHN4IGuW5WGFUu4uUh/T/xoy6eFsSz AoUQ8vDBxPcbSZDb8EQqxVJ1Zh4F/lQlwgcorniMNTISsFzpJJ5hlimrE/R3G7FA2Zt/ TYLk045HhKciZ/QkaazkdCwI9ShVhwiwmoQtu5cMpMdI1W5hTXOkE1GJgQ6yXYZxpQP9 vXXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.136.65 with SMTP id py1mr26230134pbb.81.1338702169789; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:42:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28E46800DA3FF0CE6CA74C69@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> References: <20120602223934.D0146106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <28E46800DA3FF0CE6CA74C69@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:42:49 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn0E0y78API5ytiZM8PtyHtN++flij79oD721XAqunvzuM92qahbZbKwk6/eH9pNKwH8Zyd Cc: Simon Subject: Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 05:42:50 -0000 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: > I will agree that ZFS could use a good worst-case scenario 'fsck' like to= ol. Worst-case scenario? That's when fsck doesn't work. Quickly followed by a sinking feeling. > ZFS can be a complicated beast: It's not the best choice for a single, > small, disk. =A0It may take tuning to work to it's full potential, and it= 's > fairly resource-intensive. =A0However, for large storage sets there is no > other file system out there at the moment that's as flexible, or as usefu= l, > in my opinion. I don't even see the point of using it as a root drive. But this thread is about large file servers, and I wouldn't seriously consider using anything but ZFS. NO filesystem has a mean time to data loss of infinity. If your disk traffic is primarily uncacheable random reads, you might be better off with mirrored disks. I guess that's what the traffic is like at the internet cafe where Wojciech serves coffee. ;-) I tend to use RAIDZ-2 or RAIDZ-3 for most large installations. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 05:57:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C23106564A; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 05:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDD68FC12; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 05:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E710B5E181; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:56:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.626 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.626 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.628, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rZ7YHzQ3U1rY; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:56:51 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bsdpc01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 530DC5E178; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:56:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 07:57:52 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 05:57:56 -0000 2012-06-02 19:18, Doug Barton skrev: > On 6/2/2012 8:09 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I'm thinking about some kind of information on the build progress > > Portmaster already has that if you're building in a terminal window, > look in the titlebar. I can take a look at printing that in line if > you're not in a terminal window though. > > hope this helps, > > Doug > I'm running in XFCE4 terminal and the titlebar is empty here! So do I need to activate this function? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 07:01:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADBD106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50DE8FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q53717jO066939; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:01:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCB0BB3.1020203@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:01:07 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> <20120603023552.acd054ac.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120603023552.acd054ac.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:01:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 07:01:13 -0000 On 06/02/12 18:35, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:08:55 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> I've deinstalled cups and its dependencies and rebuilt only hpijs. > > You could have kept it installed (maybe some ports will want > it as a dependency), just disable it in /etc/rc.conf. I'm probably going to have to rebuild anyway, as I was totally unclear on what cups was initially and whether or not it was needed / wanted. One of the problems with not having another system and display when starting out, and not understanding the architecture at first. >> However, when I try to use gs + hpijs as a filter, it fails. > > Did you write your own filter? I used a tweaked version of the one Wojciech Puchar just posted, which appears to be a tweaked version of the one supplied with the hpijs port. I turned off some of the batch type options to help see what was going on. #!/bin/sh #export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/share/ppd /usr/local/bin/gs -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dNOPAUSE \ -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" \ -sDeviceModel="Officejet Pro 8500 A909g" \ -dIjsUseOutputFD -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -r600 \ -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2 \ -sOutputFile=/tmp/$$ - >/dev/null #-sDeviceModel="DESKJET 960" \ #/usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE \ #-sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 cat /tmp/$$ #rm /tmp/$$ > For comparison: I'm using a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex here, > networked, with /opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh being the > filter for use with duplexing: > > #!/bin/sh > printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 > gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ > -sDEVICE=ljet4d -dDuplex=true \ > -sOutputFile=- -&& exit 0 > exit 2 > > The entry for this printer in /etc/printcap is: > > Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ > :rm=192.168.100.100:\ > :rp=raw:\ > :lp=:\ > :if=/opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ > :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ > :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ > :mx#0:\ > :sh: > > The name "Laserjet" is set in $PRINTER as the system's default > printer. There's also "Laserjet-nodup" where the filter simply > omits the duplexing functionality. > > I assume you did something similarly? That's quite a bit different, in that the output device for mine is the ijs daemon with hpijs as the ijs server. That part's from the hp sample script with the hpijs port. As you can see from the script and the commented out lines, the "-sDeviceModel=XXX" is what is changing the behavior. If I swap that one argument, it works. > Can you provide the command you've used for printing? By default, > the printer subsystem accepts PS (which is the normal printing > output format of _any_ printing application). lpr foo.txt lpr foo.pdf >> Also, the ppd.gz files from the port *did not* include any >> ppd.gz file for this printer. However, the cups port did, >> but they were installed elsewhere. So I just copied them >> over, but I'm wondering if there is a db or internal cache >> somewhere that has to be rebuilt. > > The ppd handling tool usually manages that. I never saw that mentioned. What's the ppd handling tool? >> It looks to me like it is unable to locate a .ppd.gz or .ppd >> which matches the device name "enough" to be used. Anyone know >> who is generating the error > > It's lpd (see message). I'm not certain about that. It may be an error passed up by the ijs subsystem and simply spit out by lpd. > It's accessing a printer called "lp" (does it exist with tha > name?) and loses the connection, and try to restart it. The > inability is expressed as "unable to set device=HP Officejet > Pro 8500 a909g hpijs", I'm not sure if spaces are allowed? > (Check "man 5 printcap" to be sure.) Spaces are allowed; "DESKJET 960" works. But that name is coming from the :if: script, not printcap. Again, I don't think it's a printcap / lpr issue. lpr is simply running the script it found by looking up device lp. The script passes the DeviceModel on to gs, which feeds it to ijs (-sDEVICE=ijs) which uses the hpijs implementation which is what I think is failing to find the ppd file or its contents. (which I think it has cached, see below; I think the actual files are irrelevant at this point) lpr passes the appropriate stuff to gs, which creates a file, which lpr then sends on to the output device :rm=aa.bb.cc.dd: The gs process gets cut short because hpijs or ijs can't fine the ppd file/contents its looking for, so the file created by gs is empty and the error gets passed on up to lpd and nothing gets sent to the device. Here's my printcap entry: lp|hp|text|hp8500|HP Officejet Pro 8500 a909g:\ :lp=:\ :sh:\ :mx=1000:\ :rm=aa.bb.cc.dd:\ :rp=lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp8500:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/var/spool/lpd/hp8500/diff.2: >> Ok, I tweeked /etc/printcap and the filter to call the printer >> a "DESKJET 960" and it worked. > > Is your $PRINTER set to this name? In that case, you could > easily move from "lp" (the default name) to omitting -P > in the lp* commands. $PRINTER is not set All of the above is dealing with the default printer, lp. I don't even need to tweak printcap; the above one works if the :if: script uses -sDeviceModel="DESKJET 960" The only change is to the "-sDeviceModel=XXX" in the input filter script. >> So one obviously has to do more than just supply the correct >> .ppd.gz file in the correct spot. > > Right. If you look into a .ppd file, you'll see PostScript in > there. Yep. But I don't think it's even looking at the actual files at this point; I think they have been cached at install time somehow. Somebody (I claim gs via the ijs subsystem) is trying to find the contents of the correct .ppd file. Either by looking 1. at a dictionary built from the ppd files at install time 1a. using file names (the installed files are still zipped) 1b. using their ps contents 2. looking at the file names or their ps contents at run time I claim it's #1, because simply putting the right file in the right place doesn't work, unless I haven't found the right place. I just tried moving the whole /usr/local/share/ppd directory to another name and it still worked. There are no other ppd files around at this point. A daemon could have the file handle open and still get at it, but the ijs daemon is started up and terminated with each print job. Which is why I'd like to know about this ppd tool if that's what it is. I need to be able to put the appropriate ppd.gz file in the right place and recreate the cache, wherever / whatever it is. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 08:00:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4891065689 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 08:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81638FC1D for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 08:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so2813644wer.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lvpFHMGu2ZgX+llKO8OqRSxkAlWAUqZj2noQgc/4jpc=; b=AoSmYSDmNz/nlAEENeGWwdE1dn0lAZGWZ9DY9uO03lhT9J+HoHY+k9qvG5iTcP3f1S noo8LWhpMo04MskVwfdh9GKoKxPKX0Szc7jZyaSTcmVH3btxnbu/v8j/JNFl18GRl9ug McUG5rXfXhlpR50v7cfk6EkQwNYD7Aj8eRh6XrNa2I7ovINOMWtI3Ts7tOwW0T0ToRM1 F+7nCsM+e/8AzV4AOcm29EodduzBRmZ3MQ62D+xbM3OTpz4/jqcFHKIag7Ez6Pf5DcYF 71l4+ixCVLO0vNf6TeAwRuRR9wD8oEOO5zzsOpxhGEB3h7ROLRPWXMJ2YZDr3t+Am0c1 p6Bg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.215.7 with SMTP id d7mr7329035wep.80.1338710452397; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:00:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Updating packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:00:55 -0000 I have tried the available package update methods. It occurred to me to experiment with a different way. I am working on a package update script in Python as an alternate way to update installed packages with latest available on the FreeBSD web site. It parses the index page of the web site and compares the versions of installed packages. If their is a difference it downloads the package tbz file and performs an MD5 checksum, then writes the corresponding pkg_delete and pkg_add for the package into a file which can be edited and executed from the command line. It does not automatically update the packages, for example in some cases the script reports that an older version of Perl is a suitable replacement for the latest version. Also on my system there are like seventeen versions of doc_book package so it writes the pkg_delete for each installed version and pkg_add for the latest version. (in which case we would not really want to install it seventeen times). Does anyone have recollection of a negative experience using 'pkg_delete --force' to the old version and 'pkg_add' the replacement? Would you say it's generally a bad idea to first delete the package before adding the updated package, and instead recommend to install the updated package on top of the existing installation? My project is at the following URL: https://github.com/creamy/pkg_checkversion Thanks, Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 09:40:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51B1065680 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3568FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1572316wib.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:40:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=dFpdHn+VCAIu5coP1QXj+6qr2EszSMtOqHQi2uE4fTs=; b=sLjfEKt5tAKI5CUOwpl+Gjrr210wrXXJeBmq3kE1zk9ggiI1wpkcA1pM2AiH+zvENQ HNE8L5e5QAflmJwNz1yxhlaLBmaLHA8Y+rkwc0nvQUG1swPhswsPVGmTC9+F/JSe/LpP QoyCK/ipYAbBNMzHJnEtpWuo8QIgpLRYw6IDAkjrDZNe+edSKepq/VlhMWWaQKiu3s8o Dgt2N2QOtFHlhqqcwhxUK3FmPW1swr356xrGpCuSSVp6qW5AcBXnk0kKC912+JcXz785 ZU1ZDoI5I3JcjZ3rbB9isQrAp+4TrLXUPYW2xTdwiEv0gdz9YY9SXNLNX/XqIuo1Xm+Z qCVA== Received: by 10.216.199.95 with SMTP id w73mr7980546wen.196.1338716414213; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:40:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.75.151 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 02:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:39:33 +0300 Message-ID: To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Roster DNS Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:40:21 -0000 So is there any FreeBSD Admin who has been adventurous enough to install Roster DNS Management - http://bit.ly/2j3pGj - and successfully deployed it? I am looking at it now, but I am afraid of using one aspect of it - LDAP, which it uses for authentication. I'm trying to see if someone did MySQL instead. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 11:48:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5694106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617C58FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (87.194.237.233) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4F70C6670195F342 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:47:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4FCB4EE3.7020807@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:47:47 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update no mirrors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:48:49 -0000 c400# uname -a FreeBSD c400 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Following the handbook: c400# freebsd-update -r 9-STABLE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.0-RELEASE from update4.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic src/src world/base world/doc world/games The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 9-STABLE from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9-STABLE from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9-STABLE from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9-STABLE from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. In case I had got the CVS tag wrong I also tried 9.0-STABLE with the same results. I haven't changed freebsd-update.conf Am I doing something wrong? This is the first time I've used freebsd-update, except that just now I apparently successfully did freebsd-update fetch and freebsd-update install on this machine. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 12:00:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDC41065735 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE0F8FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1389517eek.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 05:00:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wVP2RbBqEsrkNq5wrxNHLsWdRm4sTJ/aWOkEk68FogI=; b=zrudJN1SmPHI/jNPEBAP8dS872hd4OtS2XWDn9QkFM68iZSVrcYpE1aXetd7jH95Q4 oV7QdEjehTB5riyuqTuQvyfhD9d14efc2h7ho0EligvG2UeEekUTYd7IPXxEo6FqG2W9 t3TOH6aSODNCQ4ImM/OA8+NMsg5yzmby//SKnUly5iUT5Qb4V9LKqvpU8PCu9mejdKWl 32ukZsXXOXuf2bn4Jlw0Dw4oxVN+BDH4N7Qce3DEuBcfWhqV3HA2q6u13eX1QY3PgnHz n1exslB5alo2PsLaQnVeIFFJS5Ld5mVx1zEuxpE1Dd4t7WbiffdMLA1drcqyCx7tl21l OItw== Received: by 10.14.96.10 with SMTP id q10mr3943818eef.14.1338724828848; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 05:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h53sm26100057eea.1.2012.06.03.05.00.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 05:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:00:22 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120603130022.1b8eb10f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCB4EE3.7020807@onetel.com> References: <4FCB4EE3.7020807@onetel.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update no mirrors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:00:36 -0000 On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:47:47 +0100 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > c400# uname -a > FreeBSD c400 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 > UTC 2012 > root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Following the handbook: > > c400# freebsd-update -r 9-STABLE upgrade >... > Am I doing something wrong? freebsd-update only works on release security branches - not development branches. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 13:25:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EFF1065670 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A458FC18 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (87.194.237.233) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4F70C667019633FE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:25:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4FCB65BF.2090408@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:25:19 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FCB4EE3.7020807@onetel.com> <20120603130022.1b8eb10f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120603130022.1b8eb10f@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update no mirrors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:25:21 -0000 On 03/06/2012 13:00, RW wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:47:47 +0100 > Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> >> c400# uname -a >> FreeBSD c400 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 >> UTC 2012 >> root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> Following the handbook: >> >> c400# freebsd-update -r 9-STABLE upgrade >> ... >> Am I doing something wrong? > > freebsd-update only works on release security branches - not > development branches. Ah my mistake, thanks. It's a rather old slow laptop and I don't want to stress it by building world/kernel, I guess that means it stays on RELEASE. thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 13:46:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E937106566B; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4D8FC1D; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53Dk42u091623; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:46:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q53Dk43w091620; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:46:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:46:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 07:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:46:08 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > 2012-06-02 19:18, Doug Barton skrev: >> On 6/2/2012 8:09 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> I'm thinking about some kind of information on the build progress >> >> Portmaster already has that if you're building in a terminal window, >> look in the titlebar. I can take a look at printing that in line if >> you're not in a terminal window though. >> > > I'm running in XFCE4 terminal and the titlebar is empty here! > > So do I need to activate this function? It's on by default. --no-term-title disables it, as does setting PM_NO_TERM_TITLE in portmaster.rc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 14:26:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3542F1065670 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCC38FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71153CD7B; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:26:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q53EQh0D002293; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:26:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:26:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120603162642.a8af2417.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCB0BB3.1020203@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> <20120603023552.acd054ac.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCB0BB3.1020203@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:26:52 -0000 On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:01:07 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/02/12 18:35, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:08:55 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> I've deinstalled cups and its dependencies and rebuilt only hpijs. > > > > You could have kept it installed (maybe some ports will want > > it as a dependency), just disable it in /etc/rc.conf. > > I'm probably going to have to rebuild anyway, as I was totally > unclear on what cups was initially and whether or not it was > needed / wanted. As a summary, CUPS is both a replacement of the system's default printer spooler (lpr) and its command line tools (lpr, lpq, lprm, plus lpstat, lpconfig), as well as a collection of printer filters (to turn PS into different printer languages) and preprocessors (to turn non-PS input files into PS prior to printing). It's being considered _the_ standard meanwhile for many "modern" software packages that have "hardcoded expectations" that CUPS is present and running, in order to print (instead of just to submit the PS data to whatever is there - lpr is _always_ there). > One of the problems with not having another system and display > when starting out, and not understanding the architecture at > first. As soon as you've got the the basic system up and running, a minimal windowing environment, some xterms, a MUA and a web browser should be sufficient. > >> However, when I try to use gs + hpijs as a filter, it fails. > > > > Did you write your own filter? > > I used a tweaked version of the one Wojciech Puchar just posted, > which appears to be a tweaked version of the one supplied with the hpijs port. > I turned off some of the batch type options to help see what was going on. > > #!/bin/sh > > #export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin > export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/share/ppd > > /usr/local/bin/gs -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dNOPAUSE \ > -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" \ > -sDeviceModel="Officejet Pro 8500 A909g" \ > -dIjsUseOutputFD -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -r600 \ > -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2 \ > -sOutputFile=/tmp/$$ - >/dev/null > #-sDeviceModel="DESKJET 960" \ > #/usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE \ > #-sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 > cat /tmp/$$ > #rm /tmp/$$ Ah okay, this uses ijs, _not_ a .ppd file. See the -sDEVICE parameter which is the "main entry" to what printer filter will be used (to compare, in my case it's "ljet4d" which produces PCL that gets then sent). > > For comparison: I'm using a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex here, > > networked, with /opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh being the > > filter for use with duplexing: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 > > gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ > > -sDEVICE=ljet4d -dDuplex=true \ > > -sOutputFile=- -&& exit 0 > > exit 2 > > > > The entry for this printer in /etc/printcap is: > > > > Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ > > :rm=192.168.100.100:\ > > :rp=raw:\ > > :lp=:\ > > :if=/opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh:\ > > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ > > :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ > > :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ > > :mx#0:\ > > :sh: > > > > The name "Laserjet" is set in $PRINTER as the system's default > > printer. There's also "Laserjet-nodup" where the filter simply > > omits the duplexing functionality. > > > > I assume you did something similarly? > > That's quite a bit different, in that the output device for mine > is the ijs daemon with hpijs as the ijs server. That part's from > the hp sample script with the hpijs port. Correct. If the ijs system supports your printer, it should be fine. > As you can see from the script and the commented out lines, the > "-sDeviceModel=XXX" is what is changing the behavior. If I > swap that one argument, it works. Good! > > Can you provide the command you've used for printing? By default, > > the printer subsystem accepts PS (which is the normal printing > > output format of _any_ printing application). > > lpr foo.txt > lpr foo.pdf For diagnostics, you should always start with a PS file. This is what the printer spooler accepts as input. Before printing, check the PS file with "gv " to make sure it contains what you expect it to contain. All applications that have a "print to file" option will output PS. In the past, I've been using apsfilter to do the preprocessing (? -> PS), but its backend was the same simple gs command as I'm using today, even the automatically generated printcap entry was similar (except at that time, the printer destination was parallel). > >> Also, the ppd.gz files from the port *did not* include any > >> ppd.gz file for this printer. However, the cups port did, > >> but they were installed elsewhere. So I just copied them > >> over, but I'm wondering if there is a db or internal cache > >> somewhere that has to be rebuilt. > > > > The ppd handling tool usually manages that. > > I never saw that mentioned. What's the ppd handling tool? CUPS for example. It "integrates" the content of the .ppd file into its printer filtering mechanism. If you supply a .ppd file in the printer configuration, it will use this instead of its own filters (which may not be up to date with all "modern" printers). > >> It looks to me like it is unable to locate a .ppd.gz or .ppd > >> which matches the device name "enough" to be used. Anyone know > >> who is generating the error > > > > It's lpd (see message). > > I'm not certain about that. > It may be an error passed up by the ijs subsystem and simply spit out by lpd. That is possible. It's hard to judge this more precisely from the logged message. > > It's accessing a printer called "lp" (does it exist with tha > > name?) and loses the connection, and try to restart it. The > > inability is expressed as "unable to set device=HP Officejet > > Pro 8500 a909g hpijs", I'm not sure if spaces are allowed? > > (Check "man 5 printcap" to be sure.) > > Spaces are allowed; "DESKJET 960" works. > But that name is coming from the :if: script, not printcap. Okay, as I've seen from your filter, it's properly quoted. > Again, I don't think it's a printcap / lpr issue. > lpr is simply running the script it found by looking up device lp. > The script passes the DeviceModel on to gs, > which feeds it to ijs (-sDEVICE=ijs) > which uses the hpijs implementation > which is what I think is failing to find the ppd file or its contents. > (which I think it has cached, see below; > I think the actual files are irrelevant at this point) I'm not sure in how far hpijs utilizes .ppd files (instead of using the filter descriptions bundled in the installation package). The hpijs port installs .ppd files into /usr/local/share/ppd/HP/ which should be the search path, except there's a configuration file saying otherwise. > lpr passes the appropriate stuff to gs, > which creates a file, > which lpr then sends on to the output device :rm=aa.bb.cc.dd: > The gs process gets cut short because hpijs or ijs can't fine > the ppd file/contents its looking for, > so the file created by gs is empty > and the error gets passed on up to lpd > and nothing gets sent to the device. Sounds logical. > Here's my printcap entry: > > lp|hp|text|hp8500|HP Officejet Pro 8500 a909g:\ > :lp=:\ > :sh:\ > :mx=1000:\ > :rm=aa.bb.cc.dd:\ > :rp=lp:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp8500:\ > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :if=/var/spool/lpd/hp8500/diff.2: Well, I see differences to my (working) configuration. First of all, you don't have specified some parameters like r=600x600 or q=high or paper size, which should be no problem. You're specifying rp=lp. Is this the _remote_ name on which the printer can be accessed? I have "rp=raw" which doesn't utilize the printer's _internal_ spooling mechanism. Name and location of your input filter look a bit strange, but if it's available at /var/spool/lpd/hp8500/diff.2, that also should be no problem. By the way, have you tried using your filter directly for testing? As mentioned before, prepare a printable PS file, then do: # cat test.ps | /var/spool/lpd/hp8500/diff.2 | nc 123.45.67.890 Note: nc is from port "nc" (netcat). It will send it directly to the IP address, which will normally be done by lpr, but just for diagnostics, always work with the smallest possible variables. :-) If the printer expects a certain destination port (e. g. as it uses this to "switch between multiple personalities), add the port number after the IP (e. g. "nc 123.45.67.890 1000"). Does _this_ work? > >> Ok, I tweeked /etc/printcap and the filter to call the printer > >> a "DESKJET 960" and it worked. > > > > Is your $PRINTER set to this name? In that case, you could > > easily move from "lp" (the default name) to omitting -P > > in the lp* commands. > > $PRINTER is not set > All of the above is dealing with the default printer, lp. Okay, so no problem here. > I don't even need to tweak printcap; > the above one works if the :if: script uses -sDeviceModel="DESKJET 960" > The only change is to the "-sDeviceModel=XXX" in the input filter script. The printcap file only controls how to convert and where to send the printing data. > >> So one obviously has to do more than just supply the correct > >> .ppd.gz file in the correct spot. > > > > Right. If you look into a .ppd file, you'll see PostScript in > > there. > > Yep. > But I don't think it's even looking at the actual files at this point; > I think they have been cached at install time somehow. That depends on the configuration of the port, maybe it simply parses its PPD source directory at every invocation, or it has a config file dealing with that. > Somebody (I claim gs via the ijs subsystem) is trying to find > the contents of the correct .ppd file. Either by looking > 1. at a dictionary built from the ppd files at install time > 1a. using file names (the installed files are still zipped) > 1b. using their ps contents > 2. looking at the file names or their ps contents at run time Regarding the naming of the .ppd files, no. 2 sounds possible. > I claim it's #1, because simply putting the right file in the > right place doesn't work, unless I haven't found the right place. > I just tried moving the whole /usr/local/share/ppd directory > to another name and it still worked. There are no other ppd > files around at this point. Yes, the hpijs port specifies /usr/local/share/ppd/HP/ which is an addition to what you mentioned. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 14:27:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F471065673 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8368FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D48473F62E for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:28:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:29:17 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120603092917.65c68e7a@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: vpn speed loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:27:24 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:48:45 +0200 Beni Brinckman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (pc-bsd 9.0 actuallly) on amd64 and > I'm using a vpn connexion. > My problem is the enormous speed loss i'm having when I'm using the > vpn connexion. > I have tried Openvpn and mpd5 (with a pptp and l2pt connexion) and > the max speed (according to various speedtests) is 5 to 6MB. > Without the vpn I'm having 45-50 MB... My vpn service has servers in > several European countries and US, Canada, etc. The speed stays the > same. > So I don't think it is a specific bsd problem but the > lines/connexion between ISP's. > Is this the "normal" speed when using a vpn (independently of the > used program to connect) ? Because from 45-50 back to 5-6 is a big > step backward... > Thanks for any insights here. With OpenVPN, you should not be seeing that big of a drop, with the real limiting factor being the CPU time available for it. You can easily check top and see if that is the case. If you get 45-50MBps between the two locations with out VPN, baring any firewall issues at either end, it is likely a configuration issue in regards to the networking of the machines in question or the VPN software or a CPU resource issue. One of the first areas I would check is the MTU being used on the network interfaces, figure out what the max MTU for the path is, and make sure the VPN software is not sending packets larger than that. You may also want to take a look at tuning(7). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 14:59:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC18E106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C658FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q53ExBCh068401 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 08:59:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:59:11 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:59:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:59:12 -0000 Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find the answers to... I mounted a usb drive mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex Then, as nearly as I can remember... I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: cd /mnt/goflex %mkdir breakaway mkdir: .: No such file or directory After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: #umount /mnt/goflex umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. Questions: 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? mount (noargs) does not show read/write status 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex Where does it go if not to stdout? 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily so I can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof >temp.tmp the output contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. How do I get man to produce plain text without the control sequences? 5. The lsof man page references a faq which is supposed to be part of the distribution. find . -ls | grep lsof doesn't show any faq. 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? Seems like I should have been able to find the answer to at least one of those but I'm coming up short. Thanks for relevant pointers, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 15:24:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD17106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E2A8FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B8A3CDF0; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:24:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q53FOQiV003101; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:24:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:24:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120603172426.618e7e6a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:24:28 -0000 On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:59:11 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't > seem to find the answers to... > > I mounted a usb drive > mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex > > Then, as nearly as I can remember... > I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. > I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: > cd /mnt/goflex > %mkdir breakaway > mkdir: .: No such file or directory > After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, > I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. > > I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: > #umount /mnt/goflex > umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy > > As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. > > Questions: > > 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? > It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. I think I remember having read about problems with "Windows"-based file system use, such as valid directories becoming invalid. The error message you mentioned states /mnt/goflex is not a valid directory (anymore), that's why no directory entry can be created here. Consider NTFS being part of the problem, i. e. problems with the _ntfs file system driver provided by the OS (as it seems you're not using FUSE tools here - there are "fusefs-ntfs" and "ntfsprogs" in the ports collection which may provide a functionality the base system is missing here). > 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? > mount (noargs) does not show read/write status It does - implicitely. For -o ro, it shows "read-only". > 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: > lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex > Where does it go if not to stdout? If no output redirection is applied, consider the output being empty, as no error message is displayed (so both stdout and stderr are silent). > 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily > so I can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof >temp.tmp > the output contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. > How do I get man to produce plain text without the control sequences? You can use less's search (key "/") when using the "man lsof" command. You can also use a PDF viewer (including text search functionality) so you can keep the formatting details. The following command does the trick: zcat `man -w lsof` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - /tmp/man_1_lsof.pdf To convert to pure text, use -Tascii or -Tlatin1; however, this renders to pure text without keeping the formatting intact. > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? Maybe there are writes pending, or it's just "held open" by Xfce. Make sure no terminal session has the mount point as current working directory, which would imply "device busy", even if there's no actual reading or writing action. > Seems like I should have been able to find the answer to at > least one of those but I'm coming up short. You could use "umount -f" to force it, but that may result in files missing. Anyway, I've never actually used NTFS with FreeBSD so this could also be a source of the problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[120.146.199.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oy8sm9962015pbc.52.2012.06.03.08.22.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> From: "David Whytcross" To: , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:21:37 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:38:42 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Whytcross List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:22:39 -0000 Hi Gary, if you are using xfce4, then you have most likely got gamin running as well, this caused the same problem for me when trying to umount an external USB drive I resolved my umount problem by including the -f switch #umount -f /mnt/goflex Dave Whytcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Aitken" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: umount device busy > Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find > the answers to... > > I mounted a usb drive > mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex > > Then, as nearly as I can remember... > I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. > I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: > cd /mnt/goflex > %mkdir breakaway > mkdir: .: No such file or directory > After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, > I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. > > I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: > #umount /mnt/goflex > umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy > > As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. > > Questions: > > 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? > It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. > > 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? > mount (noargs) does not show read/write status > > 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: > lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex > Where does it go if not to stdout? > > 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily so I > can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof >temp.tmp the output > contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. How do I get man > to produce plain text without the control sequences? > > 5. The lsof man page references a faq which is supposed to be part of the > distribution. > find . -ls | grep lsof doesn't show any faq. > > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? > > Seems like I should have been able to find the answer to at least one of > those but I'm coming up short. > > Thanks for relevant pointers, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 15:55:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5E9106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC9D8FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AC1A16B4A6; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:55:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:54:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:55:39 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find > the answers to... > > I mounted a usb drive > mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex > > Then, as nearly as I can remember... > I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. > I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: > cd /mnt/goflex > %mkdir breakaway > mkdir: .: No such file or directory > After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, > I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. > > I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: > #umount /mnt/goflex > umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy This almost always means someone (i.e. you) is sitting in the directory. If you tried this while su'ed and the un-su'ed you were still in the directory /mnt/goflex, you'd get this message. This may also happen if someone (i.e. you) is in the directory on another vtty. Naturally it can also mean some operation is in progress, but generally you would have recognized and avoided that. > As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. As I said, were you in the directory when you su'd? If so, you need to drop back and get out before you su again an umount. > Questions: > > 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? > It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. You did not provide a history with this problem, but generally it means some part of the path before the last does not exist. I get it for using a leading /, when I meant a relative path, or not using the leading slash when I meant an absolute path -- and of course for misspelling some part of the path. > > 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? > mount (noargs) does not show read/write status Did you try $mount -p ? > > 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: > lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex > Where does it go if not to stdout? You've got me! But why is there anything after -x? I don't quite understand. > > 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily so I > can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof >temp.tmp the output > contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. How do I get man > to produce plain text without the control sequences? man -t lsof | sp2ascii > savefile.txt > > 5. The lsof man page references a faq which is supposed to be part of the > distribution. > find . -ls | grep lsof doesn't show any faq. I can't find it either, but I don't know why the above did not show /usr/local/share/lsof . /usr/local/share is where to look for such things, and /usr/local/share/doc is generally where any docs that are install are / found. > > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? Answered above. When you su, where you may go while su'd has no effect on where you left yourself. You (as a normal user) are still on the mounted directory so the mounted device is busy. You have to drop back (exit su) and move out of the device before you can umount it. > > Seems like I should have been able to find the answer to at least one of those but I'm coming up short. > > Thanks for relevant pointers, -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:05:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EED2106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140418FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q53G5Ill064676 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:05:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F25E12356; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:05:18 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:05:56 -0000 --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, With the release of the new options framework for ports, I've run into a problem trying to convert one of my ports. The nature of the problem is that the port seems to ignore the setting stor= ed in /var/db/ports//options: I've used 'make config' to set the PYCAIO option to on; slackbox# cat /var/db/ports/py27-py-stl/options # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. # Options for py27-py-stl-3.1 _OPTIONS_READ=3Dpy27-py-stl-3.1 _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=3DPYCAIRO OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DPYCAIRO But the port seems to ignore it: slackbox# make showconfig =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for py27-py-st= l-3.1: PYCAIRO=3Doff: Use (py)Cairo to enable stl2pdf =3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings Every time I do 'make config', the PYCAIRO option will be unset, even if it shows as set in /var/db/ports//options! My port Makefile is as follows: ------------ port Makefile ---------------- # New ports collection makefile for: py-stl # Date created: 28 Dec 2011 # Whom: rsmith@xs4all.nl # # $FreeBSD$ PORTNAME=3D py-stl PORTVERSION=3D 3.1 CATEGORIES=3D graphics python MASTER_SITES=3D http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/software/ PKGNAMEPREFIX=3D ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX} MAINTAINER=3D rsmith@xs4all.nl COMMENT=3D Converts STL models to POV-Ray meshes or PostScript/PDF images USE_ZIP=3D YES USE_PYTHON=3D 2.5+ USE_PYDISTUTILS=3D YES CONFLICTS=3D stl2pov-[0-9]* MAN1=3D stl2ps.1 stlinfo.1 OPTIONS_DEFINE=3D PYCAIRO PYCAIRO_DESC=3D Use (py)Cairo to enable stl2pdf =2Einclude =2Eif ${PORT_OPTIONS:MPYCAIRO} RUN_DEPENDS+=3D ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}cairo>1.8:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/py-c= airo MAN1+=3D stl2pdf.1 PLIST_SUB+=3D STL2PDF=3D"" =2Eelse PLIST_SUB+=3D STL2PDF=3D"@comment " =2Eendif NO_BUILD=3D YES post-install: =2Eif ${PORT_OPTIONS:MPYCAIRO} @${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/stl2pdf.1 ${MANPREFIX}/man/man1 @${MV} ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2pdf.py ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2pdf =2Eelse @${RM} -f ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2pdf.py @${RM} -f ${MANPREFIX}/man/man1/stl2pdf.1* =2Eendif @${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/stl2ps.1 ${MANPREFIX}/man/man1 @${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/stlinfo.1 ${MANPREFIX}/man/man1 @${MV} ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2ps.py ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2ps @${MV} ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2pov.py ${PREFIX}/bin/stl2pov @${MV} ${PREFIX}/bin/stlinfo.py ${PREFIX}/bin/stlinfo @${MV} ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/py_stl-${PORTVERSION}-py${PYTHON_VER}.egg-info= ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/${PYDISTUTILS_EGGINFO} =2Einclude ------------ port Makefile ---------------- I've looked at other ports makefiles and see no obvious defects. Help? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/Liz4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU9sACbBSvUtFQAYZl3WFitVv9Akhe+ ZtwAoJtoQ+26neckm4C+gVjbRyI3KXGJ =TreF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:07:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06091065747 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE70C8FC17 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q53G7fZG077132 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:07:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206031607.q53G7fZG077132@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:07:29 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > > Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find the answers to... > > I mounted a usb drive > mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex > > Then, as nearly as I can remember... > I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. > I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: > cd /mnt/goflex > %mkdir breakaway > mkdir: .: No such file or directory > After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, > I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. > > Questions: > > 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? > It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. The specific complaint was concerning '.' this indicates a filesystem error. Note: it is (or, at least 'used to be') documented that _writing_ to NTFS filesystems was likely to have problems. > > 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? > mount (noargs) does not show read/write status Yes, it does. :) 'readonly' means just that. 'readonly' NOT shown means read/write. > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? ABSOLUTELY! *GRIN* You did a cd to a directory located on that device. you started a 'su' process. Maybe you did a cd to 'somewhere else', or maybe not. Then you tried to umount the device. The current process may have the 'working directory' open on that drive. The _PARENT_ of the su process *DOES* have the 'working directory' open there. The O/S rightly refuses to unmount the device in such a situation. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:17:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F3B1065670 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6118FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53GHS7v092192; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:17:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q53GHSaV092189; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:17:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:17:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120603162642.a8af2417.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> <20120603023552.acd054ac.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCB0BB3.1020203@dreamchaser.org> <20120603162642.a8af2417.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:17:34 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote: > By the way, have you tried using your filter directly for testing? > As mentioned before, prepare a printable PS file, then do: > > # cat test.ps | /var/spool/lpd/hp8500/diff.2 | nc 123.45.67.890 > > Note: nc is from port "nc" (netcat). It will send it directly to > the IP address, which will normally be done by lpr, but just for > diagnostics, always work with the smallest possible variables. :-) nc(1) is also in the base system as /usr/bin/nc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:18:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B531065679; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D118FC21; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53GIUYx092198; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:18:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q53GIUrS092195; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:18:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:18:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:18:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:18:33 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> >> >> 2012-06-02 19:18, Doug Barton skrev: >>> On 6/2/2012 8:09 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>>> I'm thinking about some kind of information on the build progress >>> >>> Portmaster already has that if you're building in a terminal window, >>> look in the titlebar. I can take a look at printing that in line if >>> you're not in a terminal window though. >>> >> >> I'm running in XFCE4 terminal and the titlebar is empty here! >> >> So do I need to activate this function? > > It's on by default. --no-term-title disables it, as does setting > PM_NO_TERM_TITLE in portmaster.rc. Oh, and xfce's Terminal has a preferences setting that can prevent dynamically-set titles from being displayed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:27:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB7106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB228FC12 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B2A29545; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:24:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q53GOKMP003367; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:24:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:24:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20120603182420.cc5cd5e6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> <20120603023552.acd054ac.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCB0BB3.1020203@dreamchaser.org> <20120603162642.a8af2417.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:27:07 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:17:28 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote: > > > By the way, have you tried using your filter directly for testing? > > As mentioned before, prepare a printable PS file, then do: > > > > # cat test.ps | /var/spool/lpd/hp8500/diff.2 | nc 123.45.67.890 > > > > Note: nc is from port "nc" (netcat). It will send it directly to > > the IP address, which will normally be done by lpr, but just for > > diagnostics, always work with the smallest possible variables. :-) > > nc(1) is also in the base system as /usr/bin/nc. Damn, you're right! Maybe that is because of netcat hasn't always been part of the OS? I talked about it as something so common that I didn't even mention it. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:33:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803991065673; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7848FC0A; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q53GXGZ3076282; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4FCB91CC.7060502@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:33:16 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120516 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20120530143824.GA18299@aurora.oekb.co.at> <44txyxfx1q.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44txyxfx1q.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ewald Jenisch , Lowell Gilbert , chromium@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chromium - fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:33:27 -0000 On 05/30/2012 09:33, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Yes. Chromium currently depends on SSE3; the recommended way of enabling > that appears to be setting CPUTYPE. Port should be ding that itself. Make use of misc/cpuid if needed. Make it BUILDDEP. Currently 19.0.1084.52 fails to build for me too. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:33:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183B31065739 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A738FC16 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53GXY9t092273; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:33:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q53GXYC4092270; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:33:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:33:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:33:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:33:37 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? xfce uses gamin to scan for new files and directories, but it causes just this problem. Edit /usr/local/etc/gamin/gaminrc and set it to poll the device directory: poll /mnt/* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 16:52:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AACE106566C for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C798FC19 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so1733687wib.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:52:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NPhbQCeVVHSvi+csr7LTJ9YyME6IEM+I7lrnwX9wA5Y=; b=tohLQuG514YBURJ9jEacXSmPXSVGwuWGH/05lC7xToedbIl89Dgw0VkfXnnnKlzbFj A0onyoAmxQkHNFitwGDOVaYMc67pRJxPbOEcf718FHaAa9+9OZsrTSiCUDsCe0chHWb4 o1eXjvEYgxE+kRgsR5JvTttYMPMS8inA0Z1+rn/yfMqodUUa4483wnjrLiphag/ScYDl gxoDYrebcPK+0rPn+h/CwxvOsIHkag+SavHAzWlb3bjm7aWmKJS0EdhdZ7ox+5fFVFnf xAMj7UuYM/s6MCe4F1oqIJnZaJN4rqOMBqMGD2+baDZIxoa0uwRAdCEXe7uMmU8mgo55 /ZFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.147 with SMTP id y19mr802286wei.33.1338742336928; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:52:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:52:16 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:52:19 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Joe Gain wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Waitman Gobble > wrote: > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble >wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block > wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i > >>>>> rebuilt > >>>>> the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and > >>>>> started > >>>>> X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the > >>>>> road > >>>>> and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx > i > >>>>> can > >>>>> run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. > If > >>>>> I > >>>>> try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. > >>>>> It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... > >>>>> > >>>>> Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's > out of > >>>>> the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. After that, run > >>>> pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Rebuild anything that says > it is > >>>> missing libxfce4-utils. > >>>> > >>>> After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. > There's > >>>> a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). > >>>> Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, > rebooting the > >>>> machine. Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. These > last two > >>>> could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did > not > >>>> happen until xfce-4.10. > >>>> > >>> > >>> thanks. i'll check it out.. > >>> > >>> Waitman > >>> > >>> > >> spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the > machine > >> runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log > in > >> as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that > if i > >> do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like > snap > >> of a finger instantly. > >> > >> I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll > >> have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop > >> rebooting :) > >> > >> i'll try the pkg_libchk > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Waitman > >> > >> > > this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up > with > > the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see > this. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Can't help with a solution. > > I had a very similar problem. I'm following 9.0-STABLE (rev. 235976 > ca. week old) using xfce and have a thinkpad laptop with intel > on-board graphics chip. My problems started when I updated the cairo > port, and at the time I couldn't really believe that cairo was the > cause of _the_ problem, because of the way X was crashing. What was > even more frustrating was that the Xorg log file was not revealing > anything other than "unknown error" and segfault. So, I didn't know > what to do for a while, and after spending a couple of days looking > for an answer, downgrading cairo fixed that issue. > > Couple of days later the new xfce is also available, and I have had no > problems running it, on stable with downgraded (currently current > again*) cairo. Be sure to read UPDATING with respect to xfce4-utils > etc. > > It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows what's going on > as this is the first major hiccup that I've had using freebsd. > > Thanks, Joe > > * > http://www.freshports.org/commit.php?category=graphics&port=cairo&files=yes&message_id=201205260354.q4Q3sBOI042864@repoman.freebsd.org > -- > joe gain > > jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 > 78464 konstanz > germany > > +49 (0)7531 60389 > > (...otherwise in ???) > Hi, I think I finally got to the bottom of my instant rebooting issue. I did a csup and rebuilt world/kernel, but doing a pkg_add or running xfce4 would still reboot the machine. This morning I scoured my logs and found one message that lead me to solution: bad dir ino xxxx AT OFFSET xxx: MANGLED ENTRY. It looks like on my machine that /var/tmp got wrecked, the fsck on boot wasn't catching it. I booted into single user mode and ran fsck -y a few times, the second time it skipped the journal to do a 'regular fsck' (maybe there is a switch to force it to skip the journal anyway?). w/o Journal it picked up the inode problems and fixed.. then mounted drive rw and deleted stuff in /var/tmp pkg_add works fine now, i haven't tried xfce4 yet but i bet it's going to work. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 18:18:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955D61065672 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20CF8FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53IIXT7013162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:18:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q53IIXT7013162 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q53IIXT7013162; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FCBAA72.7020103@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:18:26 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig853E401F6490B6AFDEF08A30" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:18:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig853E401F6490B6AFDEF08A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/06/2012 17:05, Roland Smith wrote: > I've used 'make config' to set the PYCAIO option to on; >=20 > slackbox# cat /var/db/ports/py27-py-stl/options > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > # Options for py27-py-stl-3.1 > _OPTIONS_READ=3Dpy27-py-stl-3.1 > _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=3DPYCAIRO > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DPYCAIRO >=20 > But the port seems to ignore it: >=20 > slackbox# make showconfig > =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for py27-p= y-stl-3.1: > PYCAIRO=3Doff: Use (py)Cairo to enable stl2pdf > =3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings >=20 > Every time I do 'make config', the PYCAIRO option will be unset, even i= f it > shows as set in /var/db/ports//options! What does % make -V PORT_OPTIONS show? If PYCAIRO is set in PORT_OPTIONS, then the port is accepting your setting of the option, and you've found a bug with the showconfig target. (If so, please open a PR.) If not, then something odd is happening, as your port looks perfectly OK to me. Are you using a ports tree updated within about the last 48 hours or so? I know there were some bug fixes went in to all FOO_DESC lines to contain (brackets) and other syntactically significant character= s. Cheers, Matthew PS. Asking this on freebsd-ports@... might be a good idea. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:10:41 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:18:26PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 03/06/2012 17:05, Roland Smith wrote: > > I've used 'make config' to set the PYCAIO option to on; > >=20 > > slackbox# cat /var/db/ports/py27-py-stl/options > > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > > # Options for py27-py-stl-3.1 > > _OPTIONS_READ=3Dpy27-py-stl-3.1 > > _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=3DPYCAIRO > > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DPYCAIRO > >=20 > > But the port seems to ignore it: > >=20 > > slackbox# make showconfig > > =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for py27-p= y-stl-3.1: > > PYCAIRO=3Doff: Use (py)Cairo to enable stl2pdf > > =3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > >=20 > > Every time I do 'make config', the PYCAIRO option will be unset, even i= f it > > shows as set in /var/db/ports//options! >=20 > What does >=20 > % make -V PORT_OPTIONS slackbox# pwd /usr/ports/graphics/py-stl slackbox# make -V PORT_OPTIONS DOCS EXAMPLES NLS =20 > show? If PYCAIRO is set in PORT_OPTIONS, then the port is accepting > your setting of the option, and you've found a bug with the showconfig > target. (If so, please open a PR.) >=20 > If not, then something odd is happening, as your port looks perfectly OK > to me. Are you using a ports tree updated within about the last 48 > hours or so? I know there were some bug fixes went in to all FOO_DESC > lines to contain (brackets) and other syntactically significant character= s. I updated my ports tree this afternoon. The really weird thing is that I tested 'make config' in several other ports where it worked fine... > PS. Asking this on freebsd-ports@... might be a good idea. I guess I will do that. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/LtosACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXH1QCeNJZ+tuZ9agZw9zbzje9afnK6 ilQAnAscthmz3FJ1C+bc2kEvD+GaZaWC =5K3Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 19:43:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241CB106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmalik@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574198FC12 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28482 invoked by uid 89); 3 Jun 2012 22:36:20 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO com2007) (bmalik@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.128.4) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2012 22:36:20 +0300 From: "Bulent Malik" To: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:36:18 +0300 Message-ID: <00b301cd41c0$25b493d0$711dbb70$@ihlas.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1Bv4vzbHqO1JiiSya3UhNpIpoTvA== Content-Language: tr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: apache2 doesn't .flv in my server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:43:05 -0000 Hello I use apache22-worker on freebsd9 It Works. But I can't video file flv extension. I googled about that and downloaded mod_flvx.c and followed the instructions. Also I see that flv is added as shared module in apache Httpd -M . alias_module (shared) rewrite_module (shared) php5_module (shared) h264_streaming_module (shared) flvx_module (shared) But when i call at http://myweb/example.flv i only download this file. How can I solve this case ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 20:01:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C220106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1608FC12 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1808475wib.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aCt1Ruc3/gM70iFS+oXgaQ6C55PlVUDH6WEUjUdi5xQ=; b=azys4DbfcEgIpL0/qlk5hcFSmIN1udVsXXKDjTq32yrpiEogI+mvReDdmln88FCDX/ q5CfMXKHjnPx9Hgq+ISET48ua9CTkHHb8P/bNd0vhcUFoUYVQNtARzMcGw0dodzRdSeP YB2Wbn4P6q6IiuOoxQ+FUapvfA/ws2HHLKC3S5uHJglakYXBph5WyV3vREgtMe4stKrU UFJVbVmZEMUOn/ym63FWqF59E4wrzrw6UJJGwG//HsQUvJG692OpoO9ChYciXZdlDvyt mfuMPzJMFPLtVJegDPR4PM5JVe1hKStg0LPYs3bJLkTrHFmxDNbhhLhMp3Eo3P4nrSJ/ G6MQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.153 with SMTP id p25mr8989173wej.112.1338753700959; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:01:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:01:44 -0000 On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: > Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find > the answers to... > > I mounted a usb drive > mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex > > Then, as nearly as I can remember... > I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. > I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: > cd /mnt/goflex > %mkdir breakaway > mkdir: .: No such file or directory > After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, > I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. > > I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: > #umount /mnt/goflex > umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy > > As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. > > Questions: > > 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? > It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. > > 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? > mount (noargs) does not show read/write status > > 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: > lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex > Where does it go if not to stdout? > > 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily so I > can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof >temp.tmp the output contains > backspace sequences which screw up searching. How do I get man to produce > plain text without the control sequences? > > 5. The lsof man page references a faq which is supposed to be part of the > distribution. > find . -ls | grep lsof doesn't show any faq. > > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? > > Seems like I should have been able to find the answer to at least one of > those but I'm coming up short. > > Thanks for relevant pointers, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > something that *might* be helpful to you, it's a basic little man page browser in Qt left side of the pane shows a treeview of filesystem, so you can navigate /bin, /usr/bin, etc.. when you click on a file it looks for the corresponding man page and shows it on the right pane formatted html, which is a webkit panel. https://github.com/creamy/man-browser i built it on a FreeBSD machine but it also works with cygwin systems and probably GNU/Linux as well but i have not tried it. it is intended as a way to quickly look at what's installed on your system and possibly 'discover' and learn about previously 'unknown' commands. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 20:26:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E131D106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E588FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4918158191; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:26:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53KQOrg021307; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:26:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q53KQOow021306; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:26:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:26:24 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <20120603202624.GA4999@schweikhardt.net> References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> <20120601100107.GB2721@schweikhardt.net> <4FC8FE11.3020700@dreamchaser.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FC8FE11.3020700@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:26:56 -0000 I solved it. No kernel or other driver installations necessary beyond those I already had (xhci). 1. Hook up disk to USB 2 Port. -> System detects drive and creates device nodes: ugen3.2: at usbus3 umass1: on usbus3 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) 2. Replace the vendor installed NTFS with a UFS file system. $ newfs -U /dev/da1s1 (No, I didn't bother to create BSD partitions) 3. Hook up disk to USB 3 Port. -> Now system detects drive and creates device nodes: ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 400.000MB/s transfers da1: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) 4. Mount $ mount /dev/da1s1 /mnt $ df /mnt Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1 968G 8.2k 891G 0% /mnt Wohooo! Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 20:51:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7DE106564A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8165F8FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q53Kpkbc015736; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:51:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20120603154553.060973c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:51:39 -0500 To: Ewald Jenisch , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20120531134134.GA60853@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20120531134134.GA60853@aurora.oekb.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120603-1, 06/03/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q53Kpkbc015736 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 fails to install on HP Proliant (crash) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:51:59 -0000 At 08:41 AM 5/31/2012, Ewald Jenisch wrote: >Hi, > >I'm trying to install FreeBSD9 (64bit) on a HP Proliant server >(ProLiant DL385 G1). Installation is done via remote-management >("iLO") basically by mounting the Installation-ISO. > >However a couple of seconds after booting the box crashes. > >Here's what I tried already: > >o) Re-download the installation ISO - same checksum - same result > >o) Instead of booting directly I issued the following two commands >on the loader prompt: > >set kern.eventtimer.periodic=1 >set kern.eventtimer.timer="LAPIC" > >followed by "boot" > >Neither of these helped. > >To cross-check I tried booting of a FreeBSD 8 installation media - no >problems at all (besides that the machine is running FreeBSD8 >currently without problems) > > >Any clue what could be wrong here and what I can do in order to make >this box boot from the installation media? > >Thanks much in advance for your help, >-ewald You can try the boot options on the boot menu to try with ACPI disabled. I have experienced some crashes and some hangs when trying to boot different hardware via an ISO virtually mounted and also booting via USB key. I believe the issues come down to timing issues, where in the boot process the kernel expects to have some required /tmp space on physical disk. You may need to create a RAID volume you plan to use for the filesystems first. Also check compatibility with your hardware. While it can be a pain, to debug something like this, I have booted systems at data centers where I have a console connected and using a CD or DVD drive (external USB if no internal device is installed.) -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 20:58:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F59106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA2D8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q53KvtG2022106; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:57:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20120603155503.06097508@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:57:48 -0500 To: Robert Bonomi , jbiquez@intranet.com.mx From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <201205310018.q4V0IBBL020440@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <3421248490-1670043744@intranet.com.mx> <201205310018.q4V0IBBL020440@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120603-1, 06/03/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q53KvtG2022106 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:58:00 -0000 At 07:18 PM 5/30/2012, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From jbiquez@intranet.com.mx Wed May 30 13:48:05 2012 > > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:47:34 -0500 > > To: Robert Bonomi > > From: Jorge Biquez > > Subject: Re: Firewall, blocking POP3 > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > Hello. > > > > Thanks a lot!. Simple an elegant solution. > > > > I just did that and of course it worked.... I just was wondering... > > what if I need to have the service working BUT want to block those > > break attemps? IN this and other services. ? > > My guess is that it is a never ending process? I mean, block one, > > block another, another, etc? > >If one knows the address-blocks that legitimate customers will be using, >one can block off access from 'everywhere else'. > > > What the people who has big servers running for hosting services are > > doing? Or you just have a policy of strng passworrds, server > > up-todate and let the attemps to try forever? > >There are tools like 'fail2ban' that can be used to lock out persistant >doorknob-rattlers. > >Also, one can do things like allow mail access (POP, IMAP, 'whatever') >only via a port that is 'tunneled' through an SSH/SSL connection. > >This eliminates almost all doorknob rattling on the mail access ports, >but gets lots of attempts on the SSH port. Which is generally not a >problem, since the SSH keyspace is vastly larger, and more evenly >distributed, than that for plaintext passwords. > >To eliminate virtually all the 'noise' from SSH doorknob-rattling, run >it on a non-standard port. This does =not= increase the actual security >of the system, but it does greatly reduce the 'noise' in the logs -- so >any actual attack attempt is much more obvious. > You can use /etc/hosts.allow to list your "friendly" IP's allowed by protocol. This provides an easy way to block all foreign users. You can use wildcards in this file, so if you need to allow users in for POP access from an ISP, you can do that. Also, if you do have wide array of addresses you need to let in, you may want to put the email services in a jail. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 23:10:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5C8106566B for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAB18FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so3154944wer.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wGaHCeE6LFL6mzSK8m/lxstfb0qF8R2vL6w0MzF9Zxo=; b=wsvoHE+NtfB2j+6Vq/Y6OY7V3ayZjujS55EUP1gvqsesMQZj1e0qUORmxMnk1xS8Pf W8gbPN+SjaJ6KmoYyS5q5XlXijbWM187oKnhJFi6kezkGafjl8dD/EZf+TTBYNSJCGRK bu82PUT2mmFC9qfVqpEwTdupOEUuWfRfyVGsShJNkDTpyyruKf3C/3A5PdoPmoo5UiIQ fie0bSDw01Z19mBA4yCONUO06JQkucxVlHrh2m8aqflr6SMNqyJqj8Nzwga9uGoBezS+ H6KiTThP4onXV/LHZB6ZhhgJPk8IiJUBjtGfUMw/p3I3IqHccX94hi6yApIuT+IeHIKp HXHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.211.131 with SMTP id w3mr8842846weo.163.1338765000328; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.39 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:10:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: /usr/bin/find - binary operands howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:10:02 -0000 Given a fs with millions of inodes, multiple find runs is expensive. As is performing the ch* on more than the minimum required inodes, which also needlessly updates the inode ctime. So I want one find, doing the ch* only if necessary. I came up with this. But any true line short circuits the rest of the -o's, which isn't desired. Using -a results similarly. The man page says -exec returns true if util is true. ch* is usually true unless the operation isn't permitted (file flags, read-only, etc) or the node vanishes in a race. The test[s] would keep -exec[s] from being always executed. Then there is the problem of the full permutation of the initial state of the owner and mode, say: 00, 01, 10, 11. So how should I write this? 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[77.37.160.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j1sm5551725lby.8.2012.06.03.16.39.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCBF595.9010004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:39:01 +0400 From: "Arsen.Shnurkov" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FC63F11.6070001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FC63F11.6070001@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <4FC63F11.6070001@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Syntax error: redirection unexpected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:39:15 -0000 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=32482 After recent update of ports tree make became unable to build lang/expect: Code: freebsd64# cd /usr/ports/lang/expect freebsd64# make install Syntax error: redirection unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/expect. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/expect. The same error on FreeBSD 6.2 with make from 6.4: Code: [root@freebsd62 /usr/ports/devel/glib20]# make install Syntax error: redirection unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20. 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[81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dg2sm26488379wib.4.2012.06.03.18.06.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:06:57 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:07:02 -0000 Hi, this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system on a 40GB SSD. The strange thing with this is that I recently installed the 4TB disks and they're brand new. One disk connected to the system board works fine and shows up as online and on one of the channels using atacontrol list. The other disk is connected to a Startech.com Jmicron based 2x SATA RAID controller card. The disk connected to the controller card is having issues. At first the drive wouldn't be seen by the system then after a while all of a sudden it was there. No reboots, no io scans nothing it just appeared. After blasting it with IO for a few days the disk has now vanished again..... I had this error in dmesg for a while: ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=113337535 I have tried to use pciconf -lbvv to show the connected interfaces and the JMICRON comes up fine: atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x2366197b chip=0x2366197b rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'JMicron JMB366 AHCI/IDE Controller (JMB36X)' class = mass storage subclass = RAID bar [10] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd040, size 8, enabled bar [14] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd030, size 4, enabled bar [18] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd020, size 8, enabled bar [1c] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd010, size 4, enabled bar [20] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd000, size 16, enabled bar [24] = type Memory, range 32, base 0xd0510000, size 8192, enabled So why isn't the disk? I reckon as stated at the beginning that either the 180Watt PSU inside the system isn't enough or the controller is just really poor?? Could anyone suggest anything to look into, I'm sure I've covered all the bases but just incase there is something else I can do with this one?? Thanks. Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 02:28:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBABA1065686 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4598FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q542SSEe070238 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:28:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:28:28 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> In-Reply-To: <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:28:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:28:35 -0000 Combining several responses to save traffic; thanks all >> Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find the answers to... >> >> I mounted a usb drive >> mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex >> >> Then, as nearly as I can remember... >> I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. >> I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: >> cd /mnt/goflex >> %mkdir breakaway >> mkdir: .: No such file or directory >> After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, >> I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. >> >> I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: >> #umount /mnt/goflex >> umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy >> >> As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? >> It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir.On 06/03/12 09:24, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:59:11 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't >> seem to find the answers to... >> >> I mounted a usb drive >> mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex >> >> Then, as nearly as I can remember... >> I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. >> I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: >> cd /mnt/goflex >> %mkdir breakaway >> mkdir: .: No such file or directory >> After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, >> I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. >> >> I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: >> #umount /mnt/goflex >> umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy >> >> As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? >> It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. > I think I remember having read about problems with "Windows"-based > file system use, such as valid directories becoming invalid. The > error message you mentioned states /mnt/goflex is not a valid > directory (anymore), that's why no directory entry can be created > here. It's still valid. I can cd there and look at anything in the subtree. > Consider NTFS being part of the problem, i. e. problems with the > _ntfs file system driver provided by the OS (as it seems you're > not using FUSE tools here - there are "fusefs-ntfs" and "ntfsprogs" > in the ports collection which may provide a functionality the > base system is missing here). may try that but will probably decide to use two different drives for removable backup, one for windoze and one for fbsd. > if you are using xfce4, then you have most likely got gamin running as well, this caused the same problem for me when trying to umount an external USB drive gamin *is* installed, and I did have the file browser up and using it to look at the ntfs disk. I thought it might be holding a file open, so first I backed it out to something not on the ntfs disk, then exited it. Made no difference. Also, no gamin currently running. But as Warren Block noted, it causes this problem, so I'm assuming that is it. > I resolved my umount problem by including the -f switch > > #umount -f /mnt/goflex Which is what I am ending up doing. > This almost always means someone (i.e. you) is sitting in the directory. > If you tried this while su'ed and the un-su'ed you were still in the > directory /mnt/goflex, you'd get this message. This may also happen if > someone (i.e. you) is in the directory on another vtty. Naturally it can > also mean some operation is in progress, but generally you would have > recognized and avoided that. That's what I kept thinking. Backed out of all su ops, checked all xterms; nada. no other vtys opened. In any case, the mount was done after X was started, and switching vtys crashes X so I don't do that. > You did not provide a history with this problem, but generally it means some > part of the path before the last does not exist. I get it for using a > leading /, when I meant a relative path, or not using the leading slash when > I meant an absolute path -- and of course for misspelling some part of the > path. Nice to know someone else admits to that too :-). In this case, not the problem. >> 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? >> mount (noargs) does not show read/write status > > It does - implicitely. For -o ro, it shows "read-only". > > Yes, it does. :) > 'readonly' means just that. 'readonly' NOT shown means read/write. I thought maybe so, but didn't know for sure. Thanks. But Lars' "mount -p" is more assuring. >> 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: >> lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex >> Where does it go if not to stdout? > > If no output redirection is applied, consider the output being > empty, as no error message is displayed (so both stdout and stderr > are silent). I thought maybe so, but then tried another test which should have had output and it didn't. But that one was operator error. Retried just now and got something so that's just being tired and not recognizing what I'm doing. Thanks. > You've got me! But why is there anything after -x? I don't quite > understand. Otherwise -x thinks the /mnt/goflex belongs to it. >> 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily >> so I can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof>temp.tmp >> the output contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. >> How do I get man to produce plain text without the control sequences? > > You can use less's search (key "/") when using the "man lsof" > command. You can also use a PDF viewer (including text search > functionality) so you can keep the formatting details. > > The following command does the trick: > > zcat `man -w lsof` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - /tmp/man_1_lsof.pdf > > To convert to pure text, use -Tascii or -Tlatin1; however, this > renders to pure text without keeping the formatting intact. Thanks. I get a grops: can't open file `a4` but I'll deal with that later. > man -t lsof | sp2ascii > savefile.txt Where'd you get/find sp2ascii? I don't see one anywhere, not even on google. (Except this thread...) Secret weapon? >> 5. The lsof man page references a faq which is supposed to be part of the >> distribution. >> find . -ls | grep lsof doesn't show any faq. > > I can't find it either, but I don't know why the above did not show > /usr/local/share/lsof . /usr/local/share is where to look for such things, > and /usr/local/share/doc is generally where any docs that are install are > / found. It did. I didn't say it didn't find lsof, just no faq :-) > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? > You could use "umount -f" to force it, but that may result in > files missing. hope not, but not a heck of a lot of choices at this point. Since I didn't do squat because of the failed mkdir, seems hopeful. > The specific complaint was concerning '.' this indicates a filesystem > error. Note: it is (or, at least 'used to be') documented that _writing_ > to NTFS filesystems was likely to have problems. > xfce uses gamin to scan for new files and directories, but it causes just this problem. Edit /usr/local/etc/gamin/gaminrc and set it to poll the device directory: > > poll /mnt/* I've mounted them ro a number of times, but never tried writing before. Twice warned (or was it three times?). Permanently shy. Many thanks, all. > > something that *might* be helpful to you, it's a basic little man page > browser in Qt > left side of the pane shows a treeview of filesystem, so you can navigate > /bin, /usr/bin, etc.. when you click on a file it looks for the > corresponding man page and shows it on the right pane formatted html, which > is a webkit panel. > > https://github.com/creamy/man-browser > > it is intended as a way to quickly look at what's installed on your system > and possibly 'discover' and learn about previously 'unknown' commands. Thanks. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 02:38:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B76F106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D3A8FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:38:56 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gE5dlzxXHTDdNIMjaYpNvN6mRr+3LGsoy+/xYYB2xek= c=1 sm=0 a=JbIZ5Jd53ncA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=sNkHVCHjAAAA:8 a=xHT1oq5d1WyT5FpG7woA:9 a=pNEjDZZzORUA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:46115] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 99/2A-28751-ABF1CCF4; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:38:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:38:50 -0400 Message-ID: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Kaya Saman Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:38:57 -0000 > this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 > things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. > Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS > server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out > over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system > on a 40GB SSD. > The strange thing with this is that I recently installed the 4TB disks > and they're brand new. > One disk connected to the system board works fine and shows up as online > and on one of the channels using atacontrol list. > The other disk is connected to a Startech.com Jmicron based 2x SATA RAID > controller card. > The disk connected to the controller card is having issues. At first the > drive wouldn't be seen by the system then after a while all of a sudden > it was there. No reboots, no io scans nothing it just appeared. > After blasting it with IO for a few days the disk has now vanished > again..... > I had this error in dmesg for a while: > ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=113337535 > I have tried to use pciconf -lbvv to show the connected interfaces and > the JMICRON comes up fine: > atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x2366197b chip=0x2366197b > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' > device = 'JMicron JMB366 AHCI/IDE Controller (JMB36X)' > class = mass storage > subclass = RAID > bar [10] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd040, size 8, enabled > bar [14] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd030, size 4, enabled > bar [18] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd020, size 8, enabled > bar [1c] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd010, size 4, enabled > bar [20] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd000, size 16, enabled > bar [24] = type Memory, range 32, base 0xd0510000, size 8192, enabled > So why isn't the disk? > I reckon as stated at the beginning that either the 180Watt PSU inside > the system isn't enough or the controller is just really poor?? > Could anyone suggest anything to look into, I'm sure I've covered all > the bases but just incase there is something else I can do with this one?? > Thanks. > Kaya _______ One thing I can think of is to disconnect the questionable disk from the RAID controller card and connect it directly to the motherboard. Then you'd know whether the fault is with the hard drive or the RAID controller. PSU = power supply unit? 180 watts seems very little, I didn't know any modern system could run on so little. I thought the minimum would be around 400 watts, and this would not allow for a powerful gaming graphics card. Maybe you need to replace the power supply with something having more watts, but make sure it will physically fit. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 02:59:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087BA1065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD608FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so1943190wib.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:59:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZP3tCsrxMPI8E4KCHrpiv6i2g+rMGYN4p46PGUK4nQ0=; b=PEM8MwZnwpi3R4j8wqbcLJkTilLqsR9JovUoP1VznMv6IpyZcGiKJNW8qwCb6zWZXK 1EsUEPlOqScMtPit2n/LFKsX1DAizTyYL79D2o/vC1RGqUYYvDX6jZiw2yPuZJmp2aM9 Y8deeJn6XHxEzQf0KRbsMxOt2I2rKKqlDwZvNFTNVyt/TbN/4KBbVaxP4O0AZicYhsPK AEqzcwlNpVYeffuInVsjjwOH/2/Nu/xbX/76RrWiA0J48RJiO0UfGxGgJBNySXZPmyRU 6oAU6ZFTarpwOWjT6rx2EQBcIcOq+VwFtY/ClQkCLC4XKTr4AG92j2j8FJifteEB1Qgi OYgA== Received: by 10.216.208.151 with SMTP id q23mr9836372weo.20.1338778758703; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bn9sm17148148wib.5.2012.06.03.19.59.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:59:15 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:59:26 -0000 this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. > Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS > server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out > over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system > on a 40GB SSD. [...] > _______ > > One thing I can think of is to disconnect the questionable disk from the RAID controller card and connect it directly to the motherboard. > > Then you'd know whether the fault is with the hard drive or the RAID controller. > > PSU = power supply unit? 180 watts seems very little, I didn't know any modern system could run on so little. I thought the minimum would be around 400 watts, and this would not allow for a powerful gaming graphics card. > > Maybe you need to replace the power supply with something having more watts, but make sure it will physically fit. > > Tom Thanks for the response! Here's some more info that I managed to dig up: Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray root: ZFS: vdev I/O failure, zpool=ZFS_POOL_2 path=/dev/ad4 offset=270336 size=8192 error=6 Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: port is not ready (timeout 15000ms) tfd = 000000ff Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: hardware reset timeout Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=269091394 Yeah, 180 Watts is what comes with the chassis as it's an external power supply. Additionally the system is a Mini-ITX so that would account for less power usage however, in this case I think it might be the PSU that's simply not providing enough power..... I will definitely try sticking the "downed" disk into the motherboard controller directly as that will tell me if the disk is the issue or not. I'm also thinking to eliminate the issue of using external controller to just get a new system board that 6x SATA connectors on it instead of 4 as per my board. Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 03:05:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDE0106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA028FC1C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBC13CB6F; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:05:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5435beC007905; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:05:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:05:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:05:39 -0000 On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:28:28 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > > Consider NTFS being part of the problem, i. e. problems with the > > _ntfs file system driver provided by the OS (as it seems you're > > not using FUSE tools here - there are "fusefs-ntfs" and "ntfsprogs" > > in the ports collection which may provide a functionality the > > base system is missing here). > > may try that but will probably decide to use two different drives > for removable backup, one for windoze and one for fbsd. Good idea. However, you can do efficient backups of "Windows" data by using the "ntfsprogs" tools. This makes sure they can even be read under non-"Windows" systems. > > if you are using xfce4, then you have most likely got gamin > > running as well, this caused the same problem for me when > > trying to umount an external USB drive > > gamin *is* installed, and I did have the file browser up and > using it to look at the ntfs disk. I thought it might be > holding a file open, so first I backed it out to something > not on the ntfs disk, then exited it. Made no difference. Maybe the ganim "lock" is regarding a device file? Not sure about that, I'm not using it here. > In any case, the mount was done after X was started, and switching > vtys crashes X so I don't do that. That sounds a bit wrong... > >> 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily > >> so I can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof>temp.tmp > >> the output contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. > >> How do I get man to produce plain text without the control sequences? > > > > You can use less's search (key "/") when using the "man lsof" > > command. You can also use a PDF viewer (including text search > > functionality) so you can keep the formatting details. > > > > The following command does the trick: > > > > zcat `man -w lsof` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - /tmp/man_1_lsof.pdf > > > > To convert to pure text, use -Tascii or -Tlatin1; however, this > > renders to pure text without keeping the formatting intact. > > Thanks. I get a > grops: can't open file `a4` but I'll deal with that later. That's just for formatting the paper format (ISO A4 here). You can omit those options, the default format (in your case I assume it will be letter) will be selected. > > man -t lsof | sp2ascii > savefile.txt > > Where'd you get/find sp2ascii? I don't see one anywhere, not even on google. > (Except this thread...) Secret weapon? Typo maybe? A command like "ps2ascii" sounds more reasonable if we consider PS being the output format. The command % man -t lsof | ps2ascii > man_1_lsof.txt works as intended. The only remaining control character is ^L, means "page break" (for "form feed" to be precise). > > 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? > > > You could use "umount -f" to force it, but that may result in > > files missing. > > hope not, but not a heck of a lot of choices at this point. > Since I didn't do squat because of the failed mkdir, seems hopeful. You can always call the command % sync to request writing any pending buffers; however, the system will decide when the actual writes to the media will happen. :-) > I've mounted them ro a number of times, but never tried writing before. In that case, using "fuse-ntfs" seems to be the better choice as the NTFS support of the base system is considered "good enough for r/o". > > something that *might* be helpful to you, it's a basic little man page > > browser in Qt > > left side of the pane shows a treeview of filesystem, so you can navigate > > /bin, /usr/bin, etc.. when you click on a file it looks for the > > corresponding man page and shows it on the right pane formatted html, which > > is a webkit panel. > > > > https://github.com/creamy/man-browser > > > > it is intended as a way to quickly look at what's installed on your system > > and possibly 'discover' and learn about previously 'unknown' commands. > > Thanks. There's also a traditional way: xman. You can use it like % xman -bothshown then select "Manual Page" and then select a command from the directory on top. It's quite simple, but renders fast. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 03:40:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FBC1065670 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947128FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 421193F645 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 22:42:23 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:40:35 -0000 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:06:57 +0100 Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi, > > this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to > 2 things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply > being crap. > > > Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS > server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread > out over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root > file system on a 40GB SSD. > > The strange thing with this is that I recently installed the 4TB > disks and they're brand new. > > > One disk connected to the system board works fine and shows up as > online and on one of the channels using atacontrol list. > > > The other disk is connected to a Startech.com Jmicron based 2x SATA > RAID controller card. > > > The disk connected to the controller card is having issues. At > first the drive wouldn't be seen by the system then after a while > all of a sudden it was there. No reboots, no io scans nothing it > just appeared. > > After blasting it with IO for a few days the disk has now vanished > again..... > > I had this error in dmesg for a while: > > ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=113337535 > > I have tried to use pciconf -lbvv to show the connected interfaces > and the JMICRON comes up fine: > > > atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x2366197b > chip=0x2366197b rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' > device = 'JMicron JMB366 AHCI/IDE Controller (JMB36X)' > class = mass storage > subclass = RAID > bar [10] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd040, size 8, > enabled bar [14] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd030, size 4, > enabled bar [18] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd020, size 8, > enabled bar [1c] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd010, size 4, > enabled bar [20] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd000, size 16, > enabled bar [24] = type Memory, range 32, base 0xd0510000, size > 8192, enabled > > > So why isn't the disk? > > I reckon as stated at the beginning that either the 180Watt PSU > inside the system isn't enough or the controller is just really > poor?? > > > Could anyone suggest anything to look into, I'm sure I've covered > all the bases but just incase there is something else I can do with > this one?? Greetings, It looks like you are using the default ATA drive with that. I would suggest trying the AHCI driver and see if that works better. kldload ahci From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 03:41:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856341065673 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothywhitfield21@gmail.com) Received: from toroondcbmts08-srv.bellnexxia.net (toroondcbmts08.bellnexxia.net [207.236.237.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4482A8FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toip55-bus.srvr.bell.ca ([67.69.240.141]) by toroondcbmts08-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20120604034143.KYHS7221.toroondcbmts08-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip55-bus.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:41:43 -0400 Received: from bas21-toronto12-1242559251.dsl.bell.ca ([74.15.243.19]) by toip55-bus.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2012 23:41:43 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApOaANQgzE9KD/MT/2dsb2JhbABBA4F3RQmDCYFvnC0ZAYMOjRKBB4IRMQ8BKTw+AiMCOhOFSQeCLAEDC5V5jj5QhlYKGScNV5Mog1WCCQ2BBQOKHYMgklmEe4J8gUM From: "Timothy Whitfield" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:41:42 -0400 Message-Id: <20120604034143.KYHS7221.toroondcbmts08-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip55-bus.srvr.bell.ca> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: New message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:41:44 -0000 Counsel, I aminquiring about the possibility of your firm representing me in th= e litigationof a breach of payment agreement.If this falls within the = scope of yourpractice get back to me so that I can send the copies of = our agreements andmore information. Regards Timothy Whitfield Tel:1-289-981-9580 Email: timothywhitfield21@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 03:54:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E41106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C708FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:54:16 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=twixd6A1rHKCw+3MOTIe0/+bhYCYfWrVDLkgnUZfdD8= c=1 sm=0 a=iHZnyJ6tsWsA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=aKhPluhyJ9UH1lh-4iIA:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:36033] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id C0/FD-05368-2613CCF4; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:54:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:54:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Polytropon Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:54:17 -0000 Polytropon, you mention ppd files (.ppd or .ppd.gz). Is this the binary plugin that hplip was unable to install for me? Or am I grasping at straws? Somehow I thought the binary plugin was much bigger than the .ppd.gz files found in /usr/local/share/ppd/HP/ Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 04:23:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E31F106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F248FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q544NWtZ083914; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:23:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:23:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206040423.q544NWtZ083914@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mueller23@insightbb.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:23:13 -0000 > From: "Thomas Mueller" > > Polytropon, you mention ppd files (.ppd or .ppd.gz). > > Is this the binary plugin that hplip was unable to install for me? No. '.ppd' files are '

ostscript

rinter escription' files. They ontain 'device dependant information about a specific make/model of Postscript-capable printer. They consist of 'feature' names, 'values' for that feature, and the postscript code fragment that tells that printer how to use a particular 'value' for that particular feature. e.g. one can select the input paper tray by 'name' -- e.g. 'upper', 'lower', etc. -- without having to know whether trays are numbered starting at zero or one, or whether the numbering goes 'up' or 'down'. '.ppd' files are relevent _only_ if you are producing postscript output, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 04:27:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED23C10656B6 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A4F8FC17 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:27:38 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=twixd6A1rHKCw+3MOTIe0/+bhYCYfWrVDLkgnUZfdD8= c=1 sm=0 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=YyNrxFDoAAAA:8 a=tc69YSrnAAAA:8 a=d4quIEQiAAAA:8 a=pKZVu93rAAAA:8 a=noNou1NKfOLBeOzivFIA:9 a=0mFhiwbi21oA:10 a=R8Lb3UV9pqIA:10 a=trHeHftGHdMA:10 a=wvd4kJP5f2MA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:50405] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 5D/C1-05368-3393CCF4; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:27:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:27:39 -0000 >>For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash > and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) > to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't > use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access without Adobe Flash. Adobe may discontinue Linux version of Flash plugin except when bundled with Chrome browser. I personally would like to see HTML 5 wipe Adobe Flash off the face of the earth. Some web sites use Flash just to be annoying, not to create a video. Examples are: freefilefillableforms.com : I was unable to proceed with income tax return for e-file. shoplocal.com : When advertiser/vendor offers a choice between Flash (broadband) and HTML (dialup), HTML (non-Flash) works better even on broadband. www.gagels.com (farm market), last time I looked was maybe a month ago, and I remember complaining. laguanajuatoky.com : crashes (Mozilla) Seamonkey browser when running in FreeBSD. Gnash is great on YouTube but seems to work nowhere else. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 04:54:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D147B106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0F58FC17 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q544sbAi003689; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q544sbRm003686; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Message-ID: References: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:54:42 -0000 >> and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) >> to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't >> use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) > > Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access without Adobe Flash. true. but this is actually great filter that save your time. such sites doesn't have any real contents. > > Adobe may discontinue Linux version of Flash plugin except when bundled with Chrome browser. > > I personally would like to see HTML 5 wipe Adobe Flash off the face of the earth. > true. > > Gnash is great on YouTube but seems to work nowhere else. > i rarely run gnash. youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the internet", where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you should's watch it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 04:56:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E571065673 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD928FC1C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q544u51L003709; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:56:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q544u5X2003706; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:56:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:56:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:56:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:56:10 -0000 ppd file are actually human readable, you get a fragment that tell you how to filter postscript to produce output. eg. my OfficeJet 8500 filter is based on it. On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Polytropon, you mention ppd files (.ppd or .ppd.gz). > > Is this the binary plugin that hplip was unable to install for me? > > Or am I grasping at straws? > > Somehow I thought the binary plugin was much bigger than the .ppd.gz files found in > /usr/local/share/ppd/HP/ > > Tom > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 04:58:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0FE106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40B18FC18 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q544w7Po003720; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:58:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q544w7OP003717; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:58:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:58:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jens Schweikhardt In-Reply-To: <20120603202624.GA4999@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> <20120601100107.GB2721@schweikhardt.net> <4FC8FE11.3020700@dreamchaser.org> <20120603202624.GA4999@schweikhardt.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Gary Aitken Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:58:18 -0000 > > 2. Replace the vendor installed NTFS with a UFS file system. > > $ newfs -U /dev/da1s1 > > (No, I didn't bother to create BSD partitions) but why still create msdos partition? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 07:18:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F601065678 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30978FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so3633798ghb.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:18:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XU68ZdjBLSLfQiKaDvYFd7jhhq9qnLpvi83/NB5hyLk=; b=LZ86bVuqu7L041Z0n/+cIFmh8I1cRFkvxNtl9O9J20TIIq0g1vw9sFySmRX05HEDBc vgRnlCNpqlvsnK9GnKvQbWr3dkm/7gurunnUJS6wPU+JP1IWXWcTcuhrRhfmDiMNuzxT t2a8I79T4yhcjyM3naUaFOpHuw7SeSfo33PSf63b9yYELYa0jZywdsHs0IOeQJZDBClV 7QNXZ7H6iTyZdI3c1FjYMgsmILxEjD+J+ztLMsdpvX0otA2WX0cZRJsZPtE4dH/U4GGt ZN+Qz1T2TeExoWv881ZiSWA5BJkwqP3AIafl+njW8YE/eAU5SQqqd+Fy5NoYlieivFsD NMYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.76.230 with SMTP id b66mr5949472yhe.93.1338794326321; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.146.120.20 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 00:18:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00b301cd41c0$25b493d0$711dbb70$@ihlas.net.tr> References: <00b301cd41c0$25b493d0$711dbb70$@ihlas.net.tr> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:18:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: w5mNeSDa95akAvzSdo5vXzo1UaM Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Kalle_M=C3=B8ller?= To: Bulent Malik Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache2 doesn't .flv in my server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:18:47 -0000 AddHandler flv-stream .flv ? On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Bulent Malik wrote: > Hello > > I use apache22-worker on freebsd9 > > It Works. But I can't video file flv extension. > > I googled about that =C2=A0and downloaded mod_flvx.c and followed the > instructions. Also I see that flv is added as shared module in apache > > Httpd -M > > . > > alias_module (shared) > > rewrite_module (shared) > > php5_module (shared) > > h264_streaming_module (shared) > > flvx_module (shared) > > > > But when i call at http://myweb/example.flv =C2=A0 i only download this f= ile. > > How can I solve this case ? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=C3=B8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 07:34:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C447B106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1DD8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q547YYqq000661; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:34:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:34:34 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kaya Saman References: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:34:36 -0000 On 06/03/12 20:59, Kaya Saman wrote: > this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 > things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. > >> Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS >> server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out >> over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system >> on a 40GB SSD. > > [...] >> _______ >> >> One thing I can think of is to disconnect the questionable disk from the RAID controller card and connect it directly to the motherboard. >> >> Then you'd know whether the fault is with the hard drive or the RAID controller. >> >> PSU = power supply unit? 180 watts seems very little, I didn't know any modern system could run on so little. I thought the minimum would be around 400 watts, and this would not allow for a powerful gaming graphics card. >> >> Maybe you need to replace the power supply with something having more watts, but make sure it will physically fit. >> >> Tom > > Thanks for the response! > > Here's some more info that I managed to dig up: > > Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray root: ZFS: vdev I/O failure, zpool=ZFS_POOL_2 path=/dev/ad4 offset=270336 size=8192 error=6 > Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: port is not ready (timeout 15000ms) tfd = 000000ff > Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: hardware reset timeout > Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=269091394 > > > Yeah, 180 Watts is what comes with the chassis as it's an external power supply. Additionally the system is a Mini-ITX so that would account for less power usage however, in this case I think it might be the PSU that's simply not providing enough power..... > > > I will definitely try sticking the "downed" disk into the motherboard controller directly as that will tell me if the disk is the issue or not. If the problem is actually insufficient power, this won't tell you a thing. You'll have to isolate the power supply as not being a problem before anything else will be relevant. If you swap the two new disks, and the one now on the card fails, it's probably not a disk problem. But you still can't tell if its the card or insufficient power. If you can sideline the two original disks and run, it's probably power. But I'd guess you're oversubscribed in that department. It should be relatively easy to estimate as mfg specs for cpu + mobo + disks is readily available. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 07:35:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE6C1065677; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA838FC22; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1585E20A; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:34:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.624 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.624 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.626, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uqGhg7wVdWSL; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:34:50 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bsdpc01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD2BF5E178; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:34:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:35:51 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:35:55 -0000 2012-06-03 18:18, Warren Block skrev: > On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2012-06-02 19:18, Doug Barton skrev: >>>> On 6/2/2012 8:09 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>>>> I'm thinking about some kind of information on the build progress >>>> >>>> Portmaster already has that if you're building in a terminal window, >>>> look in the titlebar. I can take a look at printing that in line if >>>> you're not in a terminal window though. >>>> >>> >>> I'm running in XFCE4 terminal and the titlebar is empty here! >>> >>> So do I need to activate this function? >> >> It's on by default. --no-term-title disables it, as does setting >> PM_NO_TERM_TITLE in portmaster.rc. > > Oh, and xfce's Terminal has a preferences setting that can prevent > dynamically-set titles from being displayed. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I found that setting and changed it. I forgot to tell you that I'm working through an SSH connection and maybe it's because of that I cannot see any title? I'll test as soon as I've got the system up with X again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 07:41:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2001106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A381585E0; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:41:20 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120506 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5pre OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:41:21 -0000 On 06/04/2012 00:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I found that setting and changed it. That should do it then. Thanks to Warren for suggesting it. > I forgot to tell you that I'm working through an SSH connection and > maybe it's because of that I cannot see any title? Nope. Should work just fine for you, I've done thousands of portmaster upgrades over ssh. Let me know how it goes, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 07:56:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F23106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A0C8FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q547uods000721; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:56:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:56:49 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:56:59 -0000 On 06/03/12 21:05, Polytropon wrote: > Good idea. However, you can do efficient backups of "Windows" > data by using the "ntfsprogs" tools. This makes sure they can > even be read under non-"Windows" systems. I'll look into that. >>> if you are using xfce4, then you have most likely got gamin >>> running as well, this caused the same problem for me when >>> trying to umount an external USB drive >> >> gamin *is* installed, and I did have the file browser up and >> using it to look at the ntfs disk. I thought it might be >> holding a file open, so first I backed it out to something >> not on the ntfs disk, then exited it. Made no difference. > > Maybe the ganim "lock" is regarding a device file? Not sure > about that, I'm not using it here. I'm not sure what the deal is here, but exiting X does solve the problem. I didn't try just killing the environment by shutting down the wm and leaving X up, but if I forget and do something like that again I'll try to remember to try it. >> In any case, the mount was done after X was started, and switching >> vtys crashes X so I don't do that. > > That sounds a bit wrong... Agreed, but I saw someone else was having a similar problem with 9.0 release a bit earlier on a system, and no problem with 8.3. At least I think that was it. Hmmm, just looked and there's a firefox-bin.core and an xfce-appfinder.core. Timestamps look about right for when I did a vty switch. > Typo maybe? A command like "ps2ascii" sounds more reasonable if > we consider PS being the output format. The command duh. need sleep. thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 08:14:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30CB1065692; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF728FC16; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C20D5E181; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:13:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.624 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.624 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.626, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MeB3SQHW16+o; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:13:19 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CC295E224; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:14:53 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:14:24 -0000 2012-06-04 09:41, Doug Barton skrev: > On 06/04/2012 00:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I found that setting and changed it. > > That should do it then. Thanks to Warren for suggesting it. > >> I forgot to tell you that I'm working through an SSH connection and >> maybe it's because of that I cannot see any title? > > Nope. Should work just fine for you, I've done thousands of portmaster > upgrades over ssh. > > Let me know how it goes, > > Doug > I've set that dynamic title should go before initial title. I've also tried the setting that it should replace initial title. None of the settings changes anything. I've no title at all apart from "Terminal" /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 08:30:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D585A106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:30:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E2F8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FE8916B4A6; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:28:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 03:28:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:30:23 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: >> This almost always means someone (i.e. you) is sitting in the directory. >> If you tried this while su'ed and the un-su'ed you were still in the >> directory /mnt/goflex, you'd get this message. This may also happen if >> someone (i.e. you) is in the directory on another vtty. Naturally it can >> also mean some operation is in progress, but generally you would have >> recognized and avoided that. > > That's what I kept thinking. Backed out of all su ops, checked all > xterms; nada. no other vtys opened. In any case, the mount was done > after X was started, and switching vtys crashes X so I don't do that. This needs fixing. > I thought maybe so, but didn't know for sure. Thanks. > But Lars' "mount -p" is more assuring. I like it because if you happen to have a configuration you would like to use again, you can capture the output and make it your fstab, + or - automount adjustments. > >>> 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: >>> lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex >>> Where does it go if not to stdout? >> You've got me! But why is there anything after -x? I don't quite >> understand. > > Otherwise -x thinks the /mnt/goflex belongs to it. But what if you leave out ALL the stuff after -x. Isn't it redundant with the +d switch? (That's not a Socratic question: I don't know.) Anyway, I found the lsof FAQ by make extract in the port. I quess I am not too good at reading Makefiles because I don't see why it isn't copied to /usr/local/share/lsof with the README and whatnot. >> man -t lsof | sp2ascii > savefile.txt > > Where'd you get/find sp2ascii? I don't see one anywhere, not even on google. > (Except this thread...) Secret weapon? That's a good question. Turns out all kinds of ps converters are installed by ghostscript. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 08:57:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853E9106566C; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A898FC15; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DBD5E241; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:56:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.624 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.624 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.626, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id TmdI-C6vLs18; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:56:39 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DBFD5E053; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:56:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCC78A5.5030803@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:58:13 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:57:48 -0000 2012-06-04 10:14, Leslie Jensen skrev: > > > 2012-06-04 09:41, Doug Barton skrev: >> On 06/04/2012 00:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> I found that setting and changed it. >> >> That should do it then. Thanks to Warren for suggesting it. >> >>> I forgot to tell you that I'm working through an SSH connection and >>> maybe it's because of that I cannot see any title? >> >> Nope. Should work just fine for you, I've done thousands of portmaster >> upgrades over ssh. >> >> Let me know how it goes, >> >> Doug >> > > I've set that dynamic title should go before initial title. I've also > tried the setting that it should replace initial title. None of the > settings changes anything. > > I've no title at all apart from "Terminal" > > /Leslie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" After a restart of xfce I've got the Title to change, but I can only see the initial command ie portmaster All. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 09:01:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B641065673 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BCD8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so3336080yen.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:01:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3dyl0NPIhYjakuPrR8cXc+Miu+b7WUKqWzeON+TeodA=; b=U8BARVG8DNCf9ZEtgs5coSRtC4qZq0z5m4ywDkqf/mLgYShDPIy05eRrx60GprnLoy yKn1vQ1jWX5fiNVAil5VHhc6LQ5nUb4yJvf3dkoF/WSi9Zjo6LB+K5w3Bn1YK2zUhU19 ZW/f68wD/mw2hjOq6Fi74R3vjjmTxEFRtIDAAnBB4Aed7/zVxHCYjEcVpd3OvtRiheOZ +FnoU3BhCyLoh0qPtrFyv77VF0oALYguxlPERQPyABYn6JpuXxn17l3/4i/irclwZaw5 0VHAuCXLV2zV0Mh9tLRjJNnmm3938ytexv+GzJwxg8tuH/8+ohVaWmrJvPyQZGVms9zA tuvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.209.73 with SMTP id mk9mr7117177igc.66.1338800463047; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.246.9 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:01:02 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: giflib update failed 4.1.6 -> 4.2.0_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:01:09 -0000 during my weekly portupgrades, giflib update failed: ... ... Making all in doc^M xmlto xhtml-nochunks gif2rgb.xml^M xmlto: /usr/ports/graphics/giflib/work/giflib-4.2.0/doc/gif2rgb.xml does not val idate (status 3)^M xmlto: Fix document syntax or use --skip-validation option^M I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml /4.1.2/docbookx.dtd^M /usr/ports/graphics/giflib/work/giflib-4.2.0/doc/gif2rgb.xml:4: warning: failed to load external entity " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dt d"^M "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" []>^M ^^M I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml 4.1.2/docbookx.dtd^M warning: failed to load external entity " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4 .1.2/docbookx.dtd"^M validity error : Could not load the external subset " http://www.oasis-open.org/d ocbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd"^M Document /usr/ports/graphics/giflib/work/giflib-4.2.0/doc/gif2rgb.xml does not v alidate^M *** Error code 13^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/giflib/work/giflib-4.2.0/doc.^M *** Error code 1^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/giflib/work/giflib-4.2.0.^M *** Error code 1^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/giflib/work/giflib-4.2.0.^M *** Error code 1^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/giflib.^M ---> Build of graphics/giflib ended at: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:43:14 +0200 (consum ed 00:03:57) ---> Upgrade of graphics/giflib ended at: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:43:14 +0200 (cons umed 00:03:57) ---> ** Upgrade tasks 49: 6 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed What's wrong and how to solve ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 09:34:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B25106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697278FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742C75E1DC; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:33:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.624 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.624 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.626, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bvJChvii9u+N; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:33:18 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bsdpc01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FC3D5E27B; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:33:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCC811B.7070106@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:34:19 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:34:24 -0000 2012-05-28 06:53, Antonio Olivares skrev: >> >> I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked >> it. Then I see the pristine settings. They are almost the same with >> the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before >> but was moved. The fonts are the same :(, tiny. If I change the size >> it is not noticed. The bottom panel has no icons except for two >> folders on both ends and the application finder. I guess I will have >> to change that behavior manually. >> >> I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't >> appear to be in a folder. >> >> Thanks for helping out. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Antonio > > I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue. > > The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size. Now everything > seems to be normal :) > > I vistited the online tour > > http://www.xfce.org/about/tour > > Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on > DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though. > > Thanks Polytropon for your valuable help and suggestions. > > Regards, > > > Antonio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I now have a similar problem. The icons in the program menu is not displayed, only a white icon with a red cross. Uninstalled the complete xfce4 and reinstalled it. I also nuked the .config directory but icons are gone even so. I have the 96 DPI setting as well. Did you do anything else to retrieve the icons? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 10:43:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A529F1065674 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3998FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 138855801D; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:43:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q548fVZl066193; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q548fV4N066192; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:41:30 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120604084130.GA2837@schweikhardt.net> References: <20120531155704.GA2828@schweikhardt.net> <20120601100107.GB2721@schweikhardt.net> <4FC8FE11.3020700@dreamchaser.org> <20120603202624.GA4999@schweikhardt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Gary Aitken Subject: Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:43:40 -0000 On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 06:58:07AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: # > # > 2. Replace the vendor installed NTFS with a UFS file system. # > # > $ newfs -U /dev/da1s1 # > # > (No, I didn't bother to create BSD partitions) # # but why still create msdos partition? I didn't create one, I just left it as is. For some reason fdisk would error out and sysinstall's fdisk would compute bogus capacities: use the number of sectors and multiply them by 512 instead of 4096--that scared me to the point I didn't want to have fdisk write to the disk. Next on my TODO list: learn about gpart. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 11:20:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018A6106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7537A8FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so4520605bkv.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:20:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/c+eNAhUq4LU4MjIT0ksAnlujltiJwh5LWxIY5SxmU8=; b=n6qpgsOxExd+anXWODLnUupAJv8BGA9texc3ivPn+bKcI6LAkQSUEttGNtvMTgO7c6 nS7SRmI/vGpSiTRRZLUMCFifl9wruRH75IJ+eg/tosXOVRWmDvXyw4wJz/IygQKe8Our 4Z0Gt7/6GCnTdWN9x//b0gnGAH5mX9Z1HjnSTf3DUpeQX/yFmVW/anhneGUMCwlO58gI 3Nbd/Jzzl/+efiYg36NlZM4g/BKNgsno4OSXcpQ3fvwPlI3D7TJQDA5OJXd1nXGcJKsl LprOjt6B/Df6fLtTArEdT+U9grXT4P3HQu7Rz1itJBixhWF7ytoZyFabLxXwcBat5hFW HDig== Received: by 10.205.134.6 with SMTP id ia6mr6583447bkc.51.1338808857384; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4sm9965529bkv.15.2012.06.04.04.20.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCC99ED.3030409@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:20:13 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:20:59 -0000 On 06/04/2012 04:42 AM, Zane C. B-H. wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:06:57 +0100 > Kaya Saman wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to >> 2 things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply >> being crap. >> >> >> Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS >> server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread >> out over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root >> file system on a 40GB SSD. >> >> The strange thing with this is that I recently installed the 4TB >> disks and they're brand new. >> >> >> One disk connected to the system board works fine and shows up as >> online and on one of the channels using atacontrol list. >> >> >> The other disk is connected to a Startech.com Jmicron based 2x SATA >> RAID controller card. >> >> >> The disk connected to the controller card is having issues. At >> first the drive wouldn't be seen by the system then after a while >> all of a sudden it was there. No reboots, no io scans nothing it >> just appeared. >> >> After blasting it with IO for a few days the disk has now vanished >> again..... >> >> I had this error in dmesg for a while: >> >> ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=113337535 >> >> I have tried to use pciconf -lbvv to show the connected interfaces >> and the JMICRON comes up fine: >> >> >> atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x2366197b >> chip=0x2366197b rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' >> device = 'JMicron JMB366 AHCI/IDE Controller (JMB36X)' >> class = mass storage >> subclass = RAID >> bar [10] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd040, size 8, >> enabled bar [14] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd030, size 4, >> enabled bar [18] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd020, size 8, >> enabled bar [1c] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd010, size 4, >> enabled bar [20] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd000, size 16, >> enabled bar [24] = type Memory, range 32, base 0xd0510000, size >> 8192, enabled >> >> >> So why isn't the disk? >> >> I reckon as stated at the beginning that either the 180Watt PSU >> inside the system isn't enough or the controller is just really >> poor?? >> >> >> Could anyone suggest anything to look into, I'm sure I've covered >> all the bases but just incase there is something else I can do with >> this one?? > Greetings, > > It looks like you are using the default ATA drive with that. I would > suggest trying the AHCI driver and see if that works better. > > kldload ahci > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I've just tried this and lost my whole system..... My boot disk is not labeled to work with ahci as it just has standard formatting on there. Need to remove the ahci_load="YES" from /boot/loader.conf file now. Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 12:05:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1594106567A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974E68FC1F for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Jun 2012 08:05:52 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BNE68126; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:05:52 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Jun 2012 08:05:53 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20428.42143.957906.488156@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:05:51 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:05:59 -0000 Wojciech Puchar writes: > > Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access > > without Adobe Flash. > > true. but this is actually great filter that save your time. such > sites doesn't have any real contents. Ahem - no site _you_ have need of is Flash-only. Do not presume to speak for other users. (Though I agree - Flash-only is usually a bad sign,) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 12:07:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31548106568E for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7B08FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so3447431ggn.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 05:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fd9Yd1K2ffkgf2FXHE7jmZpthZBATXMuFpA4sU7Jj3M=; b=Qfk3fNL21U6l6aWdvmwfI85iaDyVA1jYtR3neyxBPWF41kfpCETvMhRTcJD3AfyQy6 GKrCnSZpft+3/mAys0I/cF8MdNXmONvHotmp/z9fdGDUm7eBEHu5qCmAw/KpviE+ctDc mkGW+V4xJUug1cSyXIS8kAIQELWE4ZdH+gwGBaP1zRkkeEPZirfE5bDjHk6gXaQBnkrX pzdM5EZPMha3XoAHdWk1T/V7U7AgycM3RfPEQgoJse7UyiXtNodVS/8NxZnqhMGZdq84 THcQWi924ZT0GoGS/Vo+ocqG3966sZFNYo8YZIU2LgObDbASjB4UTGdNk35h1U7conaW /liA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.175.10 with SMTP id ay10mr6930260icb.14.1338811657994; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 05:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:07:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCC811B.7070106@eskk.nu> References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC811B.7070106@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:07:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:07:39 -0000 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > 2012-05-28 06:53, Antonio Olivares skrev: > >>> >>> I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked >>> it. =A0Then I see the pristine settings. =A0They are almost the same wi= th >>> the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before >>> but was moved. =A0The fonts are the same :(, tiny. =A0If I change the s= ize >>> it is not noticed. =A0The bottom panel has no icons except for two >>> folders on both ends and the application finder. =A0I guess I will have >>> to change that behavior manually. >>> >>> I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't >>> appear to be in a folder. >>> >>> Thanks for helping out. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Antonio >> >> >> I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue. >> >> The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size. =A0Now everything >> seems to be normal :) >> >> I vistited the online tour >> >> http://www.xfce.org/about/tour >> >> Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on >> DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though. >> > I now have a similar problem. The icons in the program menu is not > displayed, only a white icon with a red cross. > > Uninstalled the complete xfce4 and reinstalled it. > > I also nuked the .config directory but icons are gone even so. > > I have the 96 DPI setting as well. > > Did you do anything else to retrieve the icons? > > Thanks > Only the ones in the bottom panel :) [right click then select the icons from the ones given] On the menu, they are still missing :( I don't worry about these yet as I hope that some update(s) later on will bring them back :) I updated the png update as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING, but no improvement in icons :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 13:34:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA54C106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A473E8FC14 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so3403042yhg.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:34:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aHIjl5CxpwVy/LES/QY8xjkrl6TXtRH3RgMi8CdDYco=; b=ndBs2Xd4U5x4K2NBPbMpeWOOTnjr78nLrQJgivKwrNcFW1G2zHGliTQT7/HO2PXS2N jSR7E9VidSLad6bEpWfAj3zaBsLZc5O6Xka7mzjv9QUvtV39eREnJHOa7Ag+WKQeYkWm aWiHnNHWaO9vKpJJuTLVmyic+SsfZFEGM37gvViZZQOsdGsHVcCKtfTOxTOSfy0a8ifP GnEfS3/vAM5ltDjEGYedN/fjf2YcG4+sd/aIadkJ7KIqhbz0092CHv2Y+VnjiWf8AhQJ AWzLSCT6Q3moOMD5eWuq9kLKKkPvSxkJonYbfxS0HyOUbMhfSoVG7qZB0QglhuEHMSJe VN/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.157.194 with SMTP id wo2mr8069717igb.72.1338816887045; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.246.9 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:34:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCCA682.9030204@eskk.nu> References: <4FCCA682.9030204@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:34:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: giflib update failed 4.1.6 -> 4.2.0_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:34:48 -0000 the libungif port is not installed on my system, so can't delete it ... 2012/6/4 Leslie Jensen > > I had a similar problem. > > Try to delete libungif > > Regards > > /Leslie > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 13:47:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584DF106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045328FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3000237vbm.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=Wc40NZHwDTdqu9DoSAiauMckeAL6+dkjXBfYNaKSGTg=; b=EudbJIovWi7d7+0E433y1eFVMmf3+b6bueGpydxA+iwst2yYxvq0q+hWDYdlr+uY0x vX67EkYdMWEJ4k/2nMSw9R/tMbcyaHsObIKpLPXgeTImldjl5Lh1JWWz7JFwOg9YmdLw QlPwBaKhycjeOFRq8TbQ6CONL1reixtH09PRfqBD2E60tSUvoK8JGu66n/hV2RE+CAMy 5Z3jcK53W68WJJ54wiL1VDguSFfZlIsSpb+/rVt3bQNDCnNAONwyO08do4P42lC9RG4m Mx11fcrxVHCRSJJIGKsavG6GM4hwrSDA+9336Kcnh42NP69Tnr7G2ag+ExpYYQSbJ03Q vnYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.155.197 with SMTP id t5mr12226621vcw.6.1338817649383; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.104 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:47:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: Rada alive To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnytoneaocqWZRuaNMLNVWSzyCneK6/EO/uv4Hw8JPC5YGv07PhUOHg1Y63jExv9+QQ6oka Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dependencies for dns/unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:47:30 -0000 I was hoping to test dns/unbound as a lighter-weight DNS cache service to replace BIND. A few hours into "make install" i decided to abort and have a look at the dependencies. Can someone tell me why a DNS server needs packages like "graphics/jpeg" and "x11/randrproto"? Is there a way to build unbound on my system without all the trash? I tried emailing the port maintainer but my message bounced back. [root@pladaks /usr/ports/dns/unbound]# make all-depends-list /usr/ports/devel/gmake /usr/ports/textproc/expat2 /usr/ports/dns/ldns /usr/ports/devel/gettext /usr/ports/devel/doxygen /usr/ports/devel/libtool /usr/ports/converters/libiconv /usr/ports/lang/perl5.12 /usr/ports/devel/tmake /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex /usr/ports/print/teTeX /usr/ports/lang/python27 /usr/ports/devel/bison /usr/ports/devel/qt4-corelib /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt4-gui /usr/ports/devel/qt4-moc /usr/ports/devel/qmake4 /usr/ports/devel/qt4-rcc /usr/ports/textproc/qt4-xml /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9 /usr/ports/graphics/png /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw /usr/ports/x11/libXpm /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt /usr/ports/x11/libSM /usr/ports/x11/libICE /usr/ports/x11/libXext /usr/ports/x11/libX11 /usr/ports/x11/libXau /usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp /usr/ports/x11/libXp /usr/ports/x11/libXrender /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config /usr/ports/graphics/jpeg /usr/ports/print/freetype2 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig /usr/ports/graphics/gd /usr/ports/devel/libltdl /usr/ports/devel/glib20 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend /usr/ports/print/tex-texmflocal /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf /usr/ports/print/teTeX-base /usr/ports/www/libwww /usr/ports/devel/t1lib /usr/ports/print/cm-super /usr/ports/print/xdvik /usr/ports/devel/m4 /usr/ports/x11/inputproto /usr/ports/x11/libXrandr /usr/ports/x11/libXinerama /usr/ports/x11/libXfixes /usr/ports/x11/libXcursor /usr/ports/x11/libXi /usr/ports/devel/qt4-uic /usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils /usr/ports/devel/autoconf /usr/ports/dns/libidn /usr/ports/graphics/jbig2dec /usr/ports/graphics/tiff /usr/ports/print/libpaper /usr/ports/print/gsfonts /usr/ports/devel/cmake /usr/ports/x11/printproto /usr/ports/x11/xextproto /usr/ports/x11/xproto /usr/ports/x11/kbproto /usr/ports/devel/xorg-macros /usr/ports/x11/xtrans /usr/ports/x11/libxcb /usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto /usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto /usr/ports/x11/renderproto /usr/ports/devel/pcre /usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection /usr/ports/x11-fonts/libXft /usr/ports/graphics/cairo /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype /usr/ports/x11-fonts/encodings /usr/ports/devel/gamin /usr/ports/print/font-amsfonts /usr/ports/textproc/texi2html /usr/ports/archivers/unzip /usr/ports/x11-fonts/p5-type1inst /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif /usr/ports/x11/randrproto /usr/ports/x11/xineramaproto /usr/ports/x11/fixesproto /usr/ports/misc/hicolor-icon-theme /usr/ports/misc/help2man /usr/ports/devel/autoconf-wrapper /usr/ports/graphics/jbigkit /usr/ports/devel/libcheck /usr/ports/textproc/libxslt /usr/ports/x11/xcb-proto /usr/ports/devel/libpthread-stubs /usr/ports/devel/libffi /usr/ports/x11/xcb-util-renderutil /usr/ports/x11/pixman /usr/ports/x11-fonts/font-bh-ttf /usr/ports/x11-fonts/font-misc-meltho /usr/ports/x11-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic /usr/ports/x11-fonts/bitstream-vera /usr/ports/x11-fonts/mkfontscale /usr/ports/x11-fonts/bdftopcf /usr/ports/x11-fonts/font-util /usr/ports/x11-fonts/mkfontdir /usr/ports/x11/xbitmaps /usr/ports/devel/p5-Locale-gettext /usr/ports/security/libgcrypt /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 /usr/ports/x11/xcb-util /usr/ports/x11-fonts/libfontenc /usr/ports/x11-fonts/libXfont /usr/ports/security/libgpg-error /usr/ports/devel/gperf /usr/ports/x11-fonts/fontsproto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 13:52:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219F7106566C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6558FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1684974eek.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:52:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0mmoIMXSSzQD01PeWuTQl0W6FB6k8snXIrX+39Pos3g=; b=nat94c9u313Wo9ja22wh9yhIpkxEyffoZXsobuwcM46U1f9g2a3UIP0idzqIeevZMq h3dQusQW9n76YmYNygBJnWjjHrNCR/KjUkKIe8O0rlZXMWvrUttOT6V/Zq0B4ojHJvph GrTcyX1YXRo2wqUaJfyQ1/Eds8nPcp/DWhF9gEfWHR76Yk9ZRZKFk7SkG4DFP+eBLwNu 3BKAVuCNRahvAr7dTzT2jk4lD+KwFrdbn1c2Z5HsKb52IeiSqrMjC8cE7Fi377hZGyIh 5t77TrqfSgJ0YbFw4zy/JECTa1UmH1lsPaMyeGBk4CE+s3ZmKfBoQx+Bhd5kqOHhJ0b0 vZXg== Received: by 10.14.28.140 with SMTP id g12mr5069791eea.42.1338817928589; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7sm37571440eeb.7.2012.06.04.06.52.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCCBD85.4020108@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:52:05 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:52:16 -0000 On 06/04/2012 08:34 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/03/12 20:59, Kaya Saman wrote: >> this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 >> things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. >> >>> Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS >>> server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out >>> over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system >>> on a 40GB SSD. >> [...] >>> _______ >>> >>> One thing I can think of is to disconnect the questionable disk from the RAID controller card and connect it directly to the motherboard. >>> >>> Then you'd know whether the fault is with the hard drive or the RAID controller. >>> >>> PSU = power supply unit? 180 watts seems very little, I didn't know any modern system could run on so little. I thought the minimum would be around 400 watts, and this would not allow for a powerful gaming graphics card. >>> >>> Maybe you need to replace the power supply with something having more watts, but make sure it will physically fit. >>> >>> Tom >> Thanks for the response! >> >> Here's some more info that I managed to dig up: >> >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray root: ZFS: vdev I/O failure, zpool=ZFS_POOL_2 path=/dev/ad4 offset=270336 size=8192 error=6 >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: port is not ready (timeout 15000ms) tfd = 000000ff >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: hardware reset timeout >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=269091394 >> >> >> Yeah, 180 Watts is what comes with the chassis as it's an external power supply. Additionally the system is a Mini-ITX so that would account for less power usage however, in this case I think it might be the PSU that's simply not providing enough power..... >> >> >> I will definitely try sticking the "downed" disk into the motherboard controller directly as that will tell me if the disk is the issue or not. > If the problem is actually insufficient power, this won't tell you a thing. > You'll have to isolate the power supply as not being a problem before anything else will be relevant. > > If you swap the two new disks, and the one now on the card fails, it's probably not a disk problem. But you still can't tell if its the card or insufficient power. > > If you can sideline the two original disks and run, it's probably power. But I'd guess you're oversubscribed in that department. It should be relatively easy to estimate as mfg specs for cpu + mobo + disks is readily available. > > Gary > Yeah, this is really odd! I just "offlined" the system and took a look at the BIOS. The hard disk controller was set to "ATA NATIVE", I attempted changing to AHCI and the system failed to boot thereafter. Booting into my rescue CD of FreeSBIE, with AHCI enabled only showed "ad4" (the troubled disk) to be registering. Switching the setting back I managed to see all disk including ad4 from SBIE. I fixed the /boot/loader.conf file by commenting out "ahci_load="YES"" and vuala done! The system booted and the ZPOOL jumped back into life: # zpool status pool: ZFS_POOL_1 state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM ZFS_POOL_1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad13 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad15 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors pool: ZFS_POOL_2 state: ONLINE scrub: scrub stopped after 307445734561825857h27m with 0 errors on Mon Jun 4 16:24:10 2012 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM ZFS_POOL_2 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad14 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad4 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Here's the weird part now; I had to stop the SCRUB as the READ_DMA retrying errors came up again?? I have just swapped disks infact and ad4 seems to be playing up again.... :-( ad4 of course being assigned any disk that's on the controller. I am not sure of what to make of this? Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 13:53:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF12106566C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5628FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54Dru4R001972 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:53:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:53:56 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:53:58 -0000 According the the handbook, one should do the following to set up a new disk: 1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1k count=1 2 fdisk -BI da1 #Initialize your new disk 3 bsdlabel -B -w da1s1 auto #Label it. 4 bsdlabel -e da1s1 # Edit the bsdlabel just created and add any partitions. 5 mkdir -p /1 6 newfs /dev/da1s1e # Repeat this for every partition you created. 7 mount /dev/da1s1e /1 # Mount the partition(s) 8 vi /etc/fstab # Add the appropriate entry/entries to your /etc/fstab. In step #4, bsdlabel gives you a label with zeros for fsize, bsize, bps/cpg Is it necessary to fill these in, or is there a way to get some reasonable defaults? "newfs -N" will give you numbers for bsize and fsize, but what about bps/cpg? What does the install process do for this step? I don't remember ever having to deal with it. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 13:54:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DED0106566B; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF138FC17; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54DsHFP098223; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:54:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54DsG7V098220; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:54:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:54:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:54:17 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:54:20 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > 2012-06-04 09:41, Doug Barton skrev: >> On 06/04/2012 00:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> I found that setting and changed it. >> >> That should do it then. Thanks to Warren for suggesting it. >> >>> I forgot to tell you that I'm working through an SSH connection and >>> maybe it's because of that I cannot see any title? >> >> Nope. Should work just fine for you, I've done thousands of portmaster >> upgrades over ssh. >> > > I've set that dynamic title should go before initial title. I've also tried > the setting that it should replace initial title. None of the settings > changes anything. > > I've no title at all apart from "Terminal" Could be something in your prompt resetting it. Does % printf "\033];Funny Title\007" change the title? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 13:58:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EDB1065670 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7589E8FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaac13 with SMTP id c13so934896eaa.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l76r+LR1oUsDbUDO7bYyYQN4khgrXtzwiCLGV4gHeKE=; b=qnMUHTq9xm11zvVMcRICdN/UR3YQO/e+5vQhHtXTB68bC8dmchFdCZUkn+xQW0HBSA E/ac+3G/uKTgyeoDYCvZ6BGfSxdQLPokz1u6Y5XKX6aoBdAflrxZeGgy11Hq+bbvI2QH qZd6wJhCE3/3dDR17Z+aVq0vpLzX/xmDmm935OQzyBLeTmH/CYAVmBmsn4v1wUOf8y1a flVxsIg1aEqWIeg6+S4RnEPkacC5+g6wb9XkyaVEotfVBwAg+gOl558Y4QWPjoch9b8a 2GuQnGTBw5hTedFZitDP/ATX7TTWwPk7CJFfx3spFVfAT59ZBdkbuObro2cafDwzsNwK r2RQ== Received: by 10.14.127.136 with SMTP id d8mr5436604eei.159.1338818332462; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q53sm37625933eef.8.2012.06.04.06.58.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCCBF18.4060309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:58:48 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:58:54 -0000 On 06/04/2012 08:34 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/03/12 20:59, Kaya Saman wrote: >> this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 >> things, PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. >> >>> Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS >>> server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out >>> over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system >>> on a 40GB SSD. >> [...] >>> _______ >>> >>> One thing I can think of is to disconnect the questionable disk from the RAID controller card and connect it directly to the motherboard. >>> >>> Then you'd know whether the fault is with the hard drive or the RAID controller. >>> >>> PSU = power supply unit? 180 watts seems very little, I didn't know any modern system could run on so little. I thought the minimum would be around 400 watts, and this would not allow for a powerful gaming graphics card. >>> >>> Maybe you need to replace the power supply with something having more watts, but make sure it will physically fit. >>> >>> Tom >> Thanks for the response! >> >> Here's some more info that I managed to dig up: >> >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray root: ZFS: vdev I/O failure, zpool=ZFS_POOL_2 path=/dev/ad4 offset=270336 size=8192 error=6 >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: port is not ready (timeout 15000ms) tfd = 000000ff >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: ata2: hardware reset timeout >> Jun 4 02:39:19 Zeta-Ray kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=269091394 >> >> >> Yeah, 180 Watts is what comes with the chassis as it's an external power supply. Additionally the system is a Mini-ITX so that would account for less power usage however, in this case I think it might be the PSU that's simply not providing enough power..... >> >> >> I will definitely try sticking the "downed" disk into the motherboard controller directly as that will tell me if the disk is the issue or not. > If the problem is actually insufficient power, this won't tell you a thing. > You'll have to isolate the power supply as not being a problem before anything else will be relevant. > > If you swap the two new disks, and the one now on the card fails, it's probably not a disk problem. But you still can't tell if its the card or insufficient power. > > If you can sideline the two original disks and run, it's probably power. But I'd guess you're oversubscribed in that department. It should be relatively easy to estimate as mfg specs for cpu + mobo + disks is readily available. > > Gary > More digging yields this: zpool iostat -v ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ZFS_POOL_2 527G 6.74T 0 0 3.18K 1.39K ad4 431G 3.20T 0 0 1.55K 678 ad14 95.6G 3.53T 0 0 1.63K 740 ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- There is not much bandwidth being used..... the disk is fine! The bandwidth gets a little more and the disk starts timing out: ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ZFS_POOL_2 527G 6.74T 0 0 19.0K 12.8K ad4 431G 3.20T 0 0 17.3K 5.97K ad14 95.6G 3.53T 0 0 1.72K 6.81K ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- I'm pretty sure it's the Strartech.com controller in the system!! Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:10:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8B21065678; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1943C8FC08; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698525E165; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:09:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.623 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.625, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4SXxkSKLGVsm; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:08:58 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF6155E053; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:08:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCCC1DA.4020202@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:10:34 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:10:10 -0000 2012-06-04 15:54, Warren Block skrev: > % printf "\033];Funny Title\007" Works! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:10:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4DC1065678 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3598FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70F0280E6; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q54E9qcA002010; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:09:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:09:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-Id: <20120604160952.c477d0c5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> References: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:10:24 -0000 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:27:31 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >>For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash > > > and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) > > to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't > > use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) > > Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access > without Adobe Flash. Those aren't web sites, those are "Flash" sites. :-) With the upcoming decline and fall of "Flash" in mind, one should not have to worry too much. When HTML 5 gets finally adopted (including its audio, video and interactivity features), which is essential to gain acccess to the growing mobile markets, "Flash" will just be an unpleasant memory, just like "Java on the web". :-) > Adobe may discontinue Linux version of Flash plugin except > when bundled with Chrome browser. There are alternatives that seem to work well enough (e. g. gnash). > Some web sites use Flash just to be annoying, not to create a video. Yes, "Flash" has taken the place that formerly has been occupied by animated GIFs, except now sound and forced interactivity, as well as slowness and bloat, have been successfully added. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:12:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159A01065841 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B488FC19 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E903327ECD; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q54EC1CM002028; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Thomas Mueller Message-Id: <20120604161201.542af348.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:12:03 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download videos > to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the internet", > where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you should's watch > it. Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff, brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited means of user friendlyness. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:12:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20991065740 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmalik@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0D88FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59777 invoked by uid 89); 4 Jun 2012 17:12:42 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO com2007) (bmalik@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.128.4) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2012 17:12:41 +0300 From: "Bulent Malik" To: =?UTF-8?Q?'Kalle_M=C3=B8ller'?= References: <00b301cd41c0$25b493d0$711dbb70$@ihlas.net.tr> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:12:40 +0300 Message-ID: <01d501cd425c$1a179530$4e46bf90$@ihlas.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFcXGl/rzy6tpsZDUIvn19TgXR9TAI3d+/Cl7pDIFA= Content-Language: tr Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: apache2 doesn't .flv in my server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:12:44 -0000 >>On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Bulent Malik wrote: >> Hello >> >> I use apache22-worker on freebsd9 >> >> It Works. But I can't video file flv extension. >> >> I googled about that and downloaded mod_flvx.c and followed the >> instructions. Also I see that flv is added as shared module in apache >> Httpd -M >> alias_module (shared) >> rewrite_module (shared) >> php5_module (shared) >> h264_streaming_module (shared) >> flvx_module (shared) >> But when i call at http://myweb/example.flv i only download this file. >> How can I solve this case ? >AddHandler flv-stream .flv ? Yes there is that line in httpd.conf But flv doesn't work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:15:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E77106575F for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AEE8FC1D for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BA3277B0; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q54EFUBN002034; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:15:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:15:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120604161530.521e33fb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:15:35 -0000 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:56:49 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/03/12 21:05, Polytropon wrote: > > Maybe the ganim "lock" is regarding a device file? Not sure > > about that, I'm not using it here. > > I'm not sure what the deal is here, but exiting X does solve > the problem. I didn't try just killing the environment by > shutting down the wm and leaving X up, but if I forget and > do something like that again I'll try to remember to try it. I assume ganim get launched as a background process by Xfce when starting X, and fortunately it exits when exiting X (and _not_ staying active as a daemon). > >> In any case, the mount was done after X was started, and switching > >> vtys crashes X so I don't do that. > > > > That sounds a bit wrong... > > Agreed, but I saw someone else was having a similar problem > with 9.0 release a bit earlier on a system, and no problem > with 8.3. At least I think that was it. Hmmm, just looked > and there's a firefox-bin.core and an xfce-appfinder.core. > Timestamps look about right for when I did a vty switch. So it's not only X crashing, it's also applications crashing (and so causing a core dump). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:15:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B43106574A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0308FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54EFVJ9098328; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:15:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54EFVA0098325; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:15:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:15:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:15:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:15:41 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/03/12 21:05, Polytropon wrote: > >> Maybe the ganim "lock" is regarding a device file? Not sure >> about that, I'm not using it here. > > I'm not sure what the deal is here, but exiting X does solve the > problem. I didn't try just killing the environment by shutting down > the wm and leaving X up, but if I forget and do something like that > again I'll try to remember to try it. gamin opens the directory (of the newly-mounted device) so it can check for new files being created or files being renamed, and then notify the window manager, which updates the user's desktop. The open makes the device in-use, preventing an unmount. Setting gamin to "poll" helps. (I assume it opens the directory, scans, then closes it again, so there's a race condition there, but I haven't encountered it.) gamin can also be disabled for certain directories. That works (AFAIR, it's been a while), but then you lose instant icon updates on the very directories where it is the most useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:48:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF07106572D for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EDC8FC14 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB80228AD5; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q54EgiL1002103; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:42:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:42:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120604164244.81e24528.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:48:08 -0000 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:53:56 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > According the the handbook, one should do the following to set up a new disk: > > 1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1k count=1 > 2 fdisk -BI da1 #Initialize your new disk > 3 bsdlabel -B -w da1s1 auto #Label it. > 4 bsdlabel -e da1s1 # Edit the bsdlabel just created and add any partitions. > 5 mkdir -p /1 > 6 newfs /dev/da1s1e # Repeat this for every partition you created. > 7 mount /dev/da1s1e /1 # Mount the partition(s) > 8 vi /etc/fstab # Add the appropriate entry/entries to your /etc/fstab. > > In step #4, bsdlabel gives you a label with zeros for fsize, bsize, bps/cpg > Is it necessary to fill these in, or is there a way to get some > reasonable defaults? > "newfs -N" will give you numbers for bsize and fsize, but what about bps/cpg? > > What does the install process do for this step? I don't remember > ever having to deal with it. Maybe it's bit overcomplicated. I assume as you're creating /dev/da1s1e here (non-boot volume on 1st slice, which would be /dev/da1s1a instead), so basically you're creating a kind of "data disk" (one full disk, not bootable). You can have that much easier: # newfs /dev/da1 Of course you can add options to newfs if needed, and also apply tunefs afterwards. But dealing with slices (which are "DOS primary partitions") is not needed if what you're creating will be a "data disk" as described. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 14:48:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7C81065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A768FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54Emm4b002204; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:48:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54EmmEI002201; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:48:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:48:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:48:48 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:48:56 -0000 > > As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. > > Questions: > > 1. What does the "No such file or directory" mean from mkdir? > It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. no NTFS driver for FreeBSD is really well done. fusefs based ntfs driver in my opinion is more usable (but not really good) try umount -f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 15:58:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F4A1065673 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7DDB8FC1A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27929 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2012 15:44:03 -0000 Received: from pool-72-89-112-74.nycmny.east.verizon.net (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@72.89.112.74) by 199.4.235.5 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2012 15:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 67145 invoked by uid 103); 4 Jun 2012 15:27:29 -0000 Date: 4 Jun 2012 15:27:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20120604152729.67144.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Building youtube-dl from Ports causes trouble? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:58:29 -0000 Good Morning everyone, I updated my ports this morning, built youtube-dl, and after finding some software wouldn't work, rebooted. Now X doesn't start, and when I tried to start emacs, it seems that libpng, required by emacs, has vanished. So my current theory is that I should just rebuild all my ports? I'm amazed that this could happen, truthfully. Any suggestions, warnings, wrist slaps? Running 9.0 GENERIC. Thanks, Scott -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 16:15:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776C4106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDC48FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SbZwG-0006uV-Q1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:15:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1338826528800-5714959.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <20120604152729.67144.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> References: <20120604152729.67144.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Building youtube-dl from Ports causes trouble? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:15:29 -0000 youtibe_dl is just python script, nothing related. 20120531: AFFECTS: users of graphics/png AUTHOR: dinoex@FreeBSD.org The PNG library has been updated to version 1.5.10. Please rebuild all ports that depend on it. If you use portmaster: portmaster -r png- If you use portupgrade: portupgrade -fr graphics/png This is VERY related I'm afraid.. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Building-youtube-dl-from-Ports-causes-trouble-tp5714957p5714959.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 16:18:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF521065677 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9888FC19 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SbZzL-0008Lr-7o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:18:39 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.23]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:18:39 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:18:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:18:22 -0400 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Dependencies for dns/unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:18:44 -0000 Rada alive wrote: > I was hoping to test dns/unbound as a lighter-weight DNS cache service to > replace BIND. A few hours into "make install" i decided to abort and have > a look at the dependencies. > Can someone tell me why a DNS server needs packages like "graphics/jpeg" > and "x11/randrproto"? This I do not know. > Is there a way to build unbound on my system without all the trash? Try placing WITHOUT_X11= yes in /etc/make.conf > I tried emailing the port maintainer but my message bounced back. > [snip] -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 16:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A878D106566C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [199.102.78.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817208FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-76-27-96-201.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([76.27.96.201] helo=[192.168.99.216]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SbaI9-0005wd-GZ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:38:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <201205120006.q4C06Itk036463@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:38:03 -0600 Message-Id: <410A7962-99F9-4474-A3E5-E220E7542C1C@shire.net> References: <201205120006.q4C06Itk036463@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.27.96.201 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: question on SYN_SENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:56:02 -0000 On May 11, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >=20 > 'Should not' does not mean 'is not'. and unfortunately, it -is- = attempting > to "go out". >=20 > There are at least a couple of possible explanations, none of them = "good". > 1) the jail is attempting a DoS (or participating in DDoS) against = an > Israeli _government_ network/machine. > 2) the jail is 'owned' by a botnet, and is trying to 'phone home' for > instructions. Sorry for the delay in response. Did not mean to ignore this. Was busy = figuring out and correcting this (and then the other normal day to day = stuff that comes up). Yes, it looks like a customer's JBOSS installation had been hacked. It = was running in its own jail with RO mounting of /usr (except /usr/local) = and /bin /sbin and other system directories. It was basically scanning = for more open JBOSS stuff. The attack had just barely happened (the = server had just been installed). I disabled the JBOSS and cleaned = everything up and scanned the jail for problem files etc. Customer = fixed the JBOSS vulnerability (well known one) and decided to leave it = off for now. Thanks for all the help on this Chad -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 16:58:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973E3106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A198FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1765254eek.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:58:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=22/ytDrt/48RAx5oIGe1CBEST9UKfNp9zgOnuGbE6Fw=; b=w7M8oWV/KXt86YprNJpMttLb++75OAh4dzXLvfEF/XMffTBoogHrO3w+JdIamteFt/ P/AoAN54NW1FmUe6VczqC6bsIseKMY/qZCejD0Pn8vZalSwrvrPmCWGZWsNWQaICbU23 OpujdMuZM4TdA/HBb/cdQ79DIE6X1GCJ9hPTWn+Az0Ni2fOFSmzFBj3hBaolpC81piTY 3qntJc4mi02COnKMSQQWAbNupnikr6O9VQewhndICO/JpUsM00PRwfixpFIQXOgKEWSV BUSbr7OAuB3W2CK6uXYthT2twG5uHM7yXCKUXdFBftsXe59d7ReUrs/bLdiCdPbK9vgI D/bw== Received: by 10.14.39.8 with SMTP id c8mr6339423eeb.55.1338829083107; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g51sm39237615eea.14.2012.06.04.09.57.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:57:55 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120604175755.5a8ecf69@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dependencies for dns/unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:58:04 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:47:29 +0200 Rada alive wrote: > I was hoping to test dns/unbound as a lighter-weight DNS cache > service to replace BIND. A few hours into "make install" i decided to > abort and have a look at the dependencies. > Can someone tell me why a DNS server needs packages like > "graphics/jpeg" and "x11/randrproto"? It doesn't $ make all-depends-list /usr/ports/devel/gmake /usr/ports/textproc/expat2 /usr/ports/dns/ldns /usr/ports/devel/gettext /usr/ports/devel/libtool /usr/ports/converters/libiconv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 17:02:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79235106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29088FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20120604170222.CMFC4604.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net>; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:02:22 +0100 Received: from [94.168.171.147] (helo=Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SbafJ-00024p-Pf; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:02:01 +0100 Received: from Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([fe80::b0b0:8497:b56e:9ced]) by Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([fe80::b0b0:8497:b56e:9ced%11]) with mapi; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:00:18 +0100 From: Graeme Dargie To: 'Kaya Saman' , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: Strange case of vanishing disk Thread-Index: AQHNQe5ejrVKCk3TbUW9YbxxKHrVIpbqYd1Q Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:00:18 +0000 Message-ID: <4C0F7421AA759346AF17299922AD57EB06204E0B@Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=JbIZ5Jd53ncA:10 a=OMdUhd4NiskA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=sNkHVCHjAAAA:8 a=JgC-OsFgaXyRJTdpskAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pNEjDZZzORUA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: Subject: RE: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:02:24 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Kaya Saman Sent: 04 June 2012 02:07 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Strange case of vanishing disk Hi, this is a very strange issue but I guess will either be related to 2 things= , PSU not being powerful enough or disk controller simply being crap. Here's what's going on. I have a little Chenbro 4 disk mini-ITX NAS=20 server with 2x 2TB disks and 2x4TB disks as storage - all spread out=20 over 2 ZFS storage pools. Additionally I am running the root file system=20 on a 40GB SSD. The strange thing with this is that I recently installed the 4TB disks=20 and they're brand new. One disk connected to the system board works fine and shows up as online=20 and on one of the channels using atacontrol list. The other disk is connected to a Startech.com Jmicron based 2x SATA RAID=20 controller card. The disk connected to the controller card is having issues. At first the=20 drive wouldn't be seen by the system then after a while all of a sudden=20 it was there. No reboots, no io scans nothing it just appeared. After blasting it with IO for a few days the disk has now vanished=20 again..... I had this error in dmesg for a while: ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=3D113337535 I have tried to use pciconf -lbvv to show the connected interfaces and=20 the JMICRON comes up fine: atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x010400 card=3D0x2366197b chip=3D0x2366197b= =20 rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device =3D 'JMicron JMB366 AHCI/IDE Controller (JMB36X)' class =3D mass storage subclass =3D RAID bar [10] =3D type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd040, size 8, enabled bar [14] =3D type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd030, size 4, enabled bar [18] =3D type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd020, size 8, enabled bar [1c] =3D type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd010, size 4, enabled bar [20] =3D type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xd000, size 16, enabled bar [24] =3D type Memory, range 32, base 0xd0510000, size 8192, enab= led So why isn't the disk? I reckon as stated at the beginning that either the 180Watt PSU inside=20 the system isn't enough or the controller is just really poor?? Could anyone suggest anything to look into, I'm sure I've covered all=20 the bases but just incase there is something else I can do with this one?? Thanks. Kaya _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " I have had a similar issue on a 3 machines before and in each case the caus= e was slightly different, on one updating the motherboard BIOS updated the = AHCI microcode and the problem went away, another it was the power supply t= hat was a little under powered and in the third which was much more odd was= a faulty ram socket on the motherboard, in that case I had initially thoug= ht it was the on board sata controller that was the issue so I tried a new = 6 port sata controller but the behaviour was the same, so I know it sounds = strange but run memtest and see if throws up an errors. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 17:16:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3931065680 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7738FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54HGqna003655; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:16:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54HGqWo003652; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:16:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:16:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Scott Ballantyne In-Reply-To: <20120604152729.67144.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> Message-ID: References: <20120604152729.67144.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:16:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building youtube-dl from Ports causes trouble? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:16:55 -0000 > > I updated my ports this morning, built youtube-dl, and after finding definitely not related to youtube-dl. > some software wouldn't work, rebooted. Now X doesn't start, and when I > tried to start emacs, it seems that libpng, required by emacs, has > vanished. > > So my current theory is that I should just rebuild all my ports? I'm > amazed that this could happen, truthfully. unfortunately ports subsystem is far from being good. anyway making it good dealing with today "modern" software with enormous amount of dependencies is just very hard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 17:23:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35705106566C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D53B8FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54HNrXZ003681; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:23:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54HNlkQ003678; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:23:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:23:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Graeme Dargie In-Reply-To: <4C0F7421AA759346AF17299922AD57EB06204E0B@Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Message-ID: References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> <4C0F7421AA759346AF17299922AD57EB06204E0B@Mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:23:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: 'Kaya Saman' , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:23:56 -0000 > I reckon as stated at the beginning that either the 180Watt PSU inside > the system isn't enough or the controller is just really poor?? well i got through the same. changing PSU, forced a seller to replace my motherboard (got NEW, not the same - checked), checked all cables, even changing disks. used separate JMicron (as yours) based PCIe controllers, and builtin SATA ports on motherboard. things happened randomly. Checked if chipset isn't overheating on board - it wasn't. Then i just got worried and got some money to buy new (low end model) of Dell Poweredge. Things now works with onboard controller, with addon JMicron PCIe (yes the same cards), with any cables and all disks i tried before including those i considered faulty. What i think is that it is not controllers fault not disk faults or not even CPU/memory/chipset fault but bad motherboard electrical design of some motherboard. Possibly because of just different pattern of operation under windoze most clients don't have such a problem and motherboard are continued to be cheaply produced. As formerly failing JMicron controllers are working fine on Dell server proves that it isn't FreeBSD fault too. > > > Could anyone suggest anything to look into, I'm sure I've covered all > the bases but just incase there is something else I can do with this one?? Change the motherboard to DIFFERENT. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 17:26:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EA61065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982888FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54HQWl6003712; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:26:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54HQWtB003709; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:26:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:26:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: <4FCCBD85.4020108@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> <4FCCBD85.4020108@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:26:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:26:40 -0000 > > I just "offlined" the system and took a look at the BIOS. The hard disk > controller was set to "ATA NATIVE", I attempted changing to AHCI and the > system failed to boot thereafter. do you have ahci and ada drivers compiled in? > > Booting into my rescue CD of FreeSBIE, with AHCI enabled only showed "ad4" > (the troubled disk) to be registering. showing up some, but not all disks after rebooting is quite common to the problem i described. POWERING OFF (by disconnecting electricity, not by power button), waiting a minute, and powering on "fixes" the problem for some time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 17:28:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BC01065673 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F20E8FC25 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54HS5br003720; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:28:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54HS5sG003717; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:28:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:28:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bulent Malik In-Reply-To: <01d501cd425c$1a179530$4e46bf90$@ihlas.net.tr> Message-ID: References: <00b301cd41c0$25b493d0$711dbb70$@ihlas.net.tr> <01d501cd425c$1a179530$4e46bf90$@ihlas.net.tr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:28:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?'Kalle_M=F8ller'?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: apache2 doesn't .flv in my server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:28:08 -0000 >>> But when i call at http://myweb/example.flv i only download this file. >>> How can I solve this case ? > >> AddHandler flv-stream .flv ? > > Yes there is that line in httpd.conf > But flv doesn't work do you have video/x-flv flv in your mime table. browser mostly ignore extension but look at mime type to decide on action. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 17:39:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B4F1065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1105C8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1780339eek.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EWydff7EfZqabqQOyllbNdq0gWAXqISO26/Tn4k48IU=; b=KAcIZdJvmjptv0oHjSc0R51mpM0jQeJnV7QPUvvauShKA4W7aqXmwSIP6eEGEMvOL6 6v3XYzX7n3OEErPVJXOZ9/rPRBYKewv7oLA4DP8T/qvfiW2GPj5YTWtt+Tx0DasQXdzk EmgbVnpdqWXEgY8FyCVN4wjO4CfSa1wMkGMt+NgKMzWC/WeoQoiZtOYPXWy6CwGWvDvy DHT/SqVF8Ax7j5EQg0tv5ee3DTIGdoWO5nk0Sgtsa5sCHfFYRZKbJy3HJ98TJogPORA5 8Q2LIS18/HDj3PAPvoT/WCctvieCmgepls+KBjW+9EMzb9i67sTnyzLVefYx9vozjU5D MBbg== Received: by 10.14.119.144 with SMTP id n16mr5511551eeh.187.1338831553449; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e45sm39641688eeb.6.2012.06.04.10.39.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCCF2BD.2080805@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:39:09 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <99.2A.28751.ABF1CCF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> <4FCC2483.5080901@gmail.com> <4FCC650A.6000201@dreamchaser.org> <4FCCBD85.4020108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:39:15 -0000 On 06/04/2012 06:26 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> I just "offlined" the system and took a look at the BIOS. The hard >> disk controller was set to "ATA NATIVE", I attempted changing to AHCI >> and the system failed to boot thereafter. > > do you have ahci and ada drivers compiled in? > >> >> Booting into my rescue CD of FreeSBIE, with AHCI enabled only showed >> "ad4" (the troubled disk) to be registering. > > showing up some, but not all disks after rebooting is quite common to > the problem i described. > > POWERING OFF (by disconnecting electricity, not by power button), > waiting a minute, and powering on "fixes" the problem for some time. Thanks Wojciech for the responses! It could be the motherboard; it's an Intel Core2Quad machine! I am looking at alternatives like Portwell: http://www.portwell.nl/products/WADE-8011.html http://www.portwell.nl/products/WADE-8012.html which are Xeon and i7 based system boards respectively and also industrial meaning that they are better designed then consumer desktop style boards. It will be interesting to test once my new rackmount chassis comes along with a 400Watt PSU where the system will then go and see what happens from there...... This system has been up for 3+ years before running 3x disks; one SSD and 2x 2TB drives in a ZFS pool. I only have 4GB RAM in here which may be an issue since I am also using round 5x Jails and 2x Apache Tomcat and 2x Postgresql databases inside to host separate instances of Xwiki - yep Java eats RAM for breakfast, lunch, and dinner :-) - will soon be migrating this stuff off the box but not for now as need some ca$h first ;-) Will wait for my new chassis then see what happens! Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 18:28:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9321065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A08678FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91151 invoked by uid 110); 4 Jun 2012 18:28:34 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2012 18:28:34 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "kpneal@pobox.com" Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:28:18 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: <20120517152401.GA13731@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120604182842.0D9321065672@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 support for LSI SAS 2208 based controllers/Dell PERC 710 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:28:42 -0000 I'm wondering if this was resolved. I was looking at Dell R610s with Perc H700 and no solid information either. Found a few threads with people having issues with it, no solutions. These been out since early 2010, not cutting edge by any means. Is anyone using Dell R610/R620 with Perc H700/H710 reliably for some time? How can a hardcore server-OS like FreeBSD not have solid support for these popular server platforms :\ The more I run into these issues, the more I'm being forced to consider Linux; this is somewhat sad. I hope I'm mistaken but it seems like there is less and less support for mainstream server out-of-box hardware lately. -Simon On Thu, 17 May 2012 11:24:01 -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 02:07:30PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:04:25 -0500, Rick Miller >> wrote: >> >> > >> >Would anyone else out there have any experience with installing >> >FreeBSD on the R620 and be able to provide any tips for >> >troubleshooting? >> > >> >> Does 9.0 install on that hardware? It's possible your controller chip has >> a slightly different revision that isn't listed in the driver. I'd expect >> it to not work on 9.0 either in that case. >I also have an R620 possibly with the same card. >FreeBSD 8.3 does not see the card. >FreeBSD 9.0 sees the card well enough to hang the kernel trying to >get a good response out of the probe. >I thought the mfi driver was the relevant one? I'm pretty sure that's >the one that hangs 9.0. I'll check tonight. >Having 9.0 hang makes it ... difficult ... to get a 9.0 install done >to the built-in usb drive. So I'm planning on trying to run a 9.0-current >kernel with an 8.3 userland at least for a little while. >-- >Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ > "Good grief, I've just noticed I've typed in a rant. Sorry chaps!" > Keir Finlow Bates, circa 1998 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 18:33:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8911065673; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FCD8FC0C; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q54IWYjJ090046; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:32:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CCA5012341; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:32:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:32:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20120604183234.GC14162@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCBAA72.7020103@FreeBSD.org> <20120603191003.GA8028@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120603191003.GA8028@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:33:06 -0000 --5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:10:03PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:18:26PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 03/06/2012 17:05, Roland Smith wrote: > > > I've used 'make config' to set the PYCAIO option to on; > > >=20 > > > slackbox# cat /var/db/ports/py27-py-stl/options > > > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > > > # Options for py27-py-stl-3.1 > > > _OPTIONS_READ=3Dpy27-py-stl-3.1 > > > _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=3DPYCAIRO > > > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DPYCAIRO > > >=20 > > > But the port seems to ignore it: > > >=20 > > > slackbox# make showconfig > > > =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for py27= -py-stl-3.1: > > > PYCAIRO=3Doff: Use (py)Cairo to enable stl2pdf > > > =3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > > >=20 > > > Every time I do 'make config', the PYCAIRO option will be unset, even= if it > > > shows as set in /var/db/ports//options! > >=20 > > What does > >=20 > > % make -V PORT_OPTIONS >=20 > slackbox# pwd > /usr/ports/graphics/py-stl > slackbox# make -V PORT_OPTIONS > DOCS EXAMPLES NLS > =20 > > show? If PYCAIRO is set in PORT_OPTIONS, then the port is accepting > > your setting of the option, and you've found a bug with the showconfig > > target. (If so, please open a PR.) Well, it was a bug, but not particularly in showconfig alone, see below. =20 > > If not, then something odd is happening, as your port looks perfectly OK > > to me. Are you using a ports tree updated within about the last 48 hou= rs > > or so? I know there were some bug fixes went in to all FOO_DESC lines = to > > contain (brackets) and other syntactically significant characters. >=20 > I updated my ports tree this afternoon. The really weird thing is that I > tested 'make config' in several other ports where it worked fine... >=20 > > PS. Asking this on freebsd-ports@... might be a good idea. The bad news is that it was a bug in the ports system. It turned out that because of the way the unique name of the port was set (which happens twice= ), the options file is not read from the same directory that it is written to! Thanks to Baptiste Daroussin for clueing me in in this. I've gained a new respect for the people maintaining the ports infrastructure. :-) It's kind = of amazing it works as well as it does. The good news is that there are several workarounds. For future reference, = the workaround that I ended up using was to set the following variable in the p= ort makefile: OPTIONSFILE=3D ${PORT_DBDIR}/py27-${PORTNAME}/options Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/M/0IACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVSbACdEMnyLRRp9MS8HwpGycuw15TF UroAnRA0ZTYl7KlZuEshzLO4lP1+rIbt =cmQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:03:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD771065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmalik@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023ED8FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7065 invoked by uid 89); 4 Jun 2012 22:03:25 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO com2007) (bmalik@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.128.4) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2012 22:03:25 +0300 From: "Bulent Malik" To: "'Wojciech Puchar'" References: <00b301cd41c0$25b493d0$711dbb70$@ihlas.net.tr> <01d501cd425c$1a179530$4e46bf90$@ihlas.net.tr> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:03:24 +0300 Message-ID: <024401cd4284$b74e2300$25ea6900$@ihlas.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFcXGl/rzy6tpsZDUIvn19TgXR9TAI3d+/CAnG2Yz0CIqobEpeV8Xtw Content-Language: tr Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: apache2 doesn't .flv in my server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:03:28 -0000 >>> But when i call at http://myweb/example.flv i only download this file. >>> How can I solve this case ? > >> AddHandler flv-stream .flv ? >> Yes there is that line in httpd.conf >> But flv doesn't work >do you have >video/x-flv flv >in your mime table. >browser mostly ignore extension but look at mime type to decide on action. Yes there is too. What can the problem ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:15:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BC01065670 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0198FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54JFXTJ003055; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:15:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCD0955.6080801@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:15:33 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:15:41 -0000 On 06/04/12 08:15, Warren Block wrote: > gamin opens the directory (of the newly-mounted device) so it can check for new files being created or files being renamed, and then notify the window manager, which updates the user's desktop. The open makes the device in-use, preventing an unmount. > > Setting gamin to "poll" helps. (I assume it opens the directory, scans, then closes it again, so there's a race condition there, but I haven't encountered it.) > > gamin can also be disabled for certain directories. That works (AFAIR, it's been a while), but then you lose instant icon updates on the very directories where it is the most useful. Can you tell me where any of this is documented? I can't find squat about gamin. no man page and no docs in the /usr/local tree Checked the port options for gamin itself and see there's a place to turn on the poller, to that should solve that problem. But where does one learn about disabling specific directories or other info? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:37:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A7710656D1 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736FD8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54JbhTI078147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:37:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q54JbhTI078147 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q54JbhTI078147; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FCD0E87.1020001@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:37:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rada alive References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDCD1A053159938B5F333F776" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Dependencies for dns/unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:37:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDCD1A053159938B5F333F776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/06/2012 14:47, Rada alive wrote: > [root@pladaks /usr/ports/dns/unbound]# make all-depends-list > /usr/ports/devel/gmake > /usr/ports/textproc/expat2 > /usr/ports/dns/ldns > /usr/ports/devel/gettext > /usr/ports/devel/doxygen > /usr/ports/devel/libtool > /usr/ports/converters/libiconv > /usr/ports/lang/perl5.12 > /usr/ports/devel/tmake > /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz > /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex > /usr/ports/print/teTeX > /usr/ports/lang/python27 > /usr/ports/devel/bison > /usr/ports/devel/qt4-corelib > [... etc -- rest of exceeding long list of dependencies trimmed ...] Unset the DOCS option in dns/ldns. Almost all of those dependencies are due to the doxygen support that drags in. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigDCD1A053159938B5F333F776 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/NDocACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyvpwCdGaWISj5c0mcvshVX6JbqQ6XQ dBkAnRC2Ti9j2houwWdYkVtkOojZKa/4 =RZLt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDCD1A053159938B5F333F776-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:40:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E4A106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF268FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFD02763A; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q54JeIWa003557; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:40:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:40:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120604214018.bc46d44b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCD0955.6080801@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD0955.6080801@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:40:27 -0000 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:15:33 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can you tell me where any of this is documented? > I can't find squat about gamin. > no man page and no docs in the /usr/local tree Welcome to the realm of modern software and its aversion against documentation. :-) In such cases, you often need to use a web browser, google, and search for keywords related to your problem. > Checked the port options for gamin itself and see there's > a place to turn on the poller, to that should solve that problem. No, this setting is done in a configuration file (installed version of course). The setting is poll /mnt/* poll /media/* or poll /dev/* or the like - not sure, I'm not using it. > But where does one learn about disabling specific directories > or other info? In arbitrary web forums, wikis and user pages. :-) Here's an example: http://people.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html Of course you need to conclude to use either ~/.gaminrc for your user, or something different than /etc/gamin/mandatory_gaminrc for system-wide use. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:52:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB9E1065670 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE598FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54JqTUZ003171; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:52:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCD11FD.6040404@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:52:29 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:52:32 -0000 On 06/04/12 02:28, Lars Eighner wrote: >>> This almost always means someone (i.e. you) is sitting in the directory. >>> If you tried this while su'ed and the un-su'ed you were still in the >>> directory /mnt/goflex, you'd get this message. This may also happen if >>> someone (i.e. you) is in the directory on another vtty. Naturally it can >>> also mean some operation is in progress, but generally you would have >>> recognized and avoided that. >> >> That's what I kept thinking. Backed out of all su ops, checked all >> xterms; nada. no other vtys opened. In any case, the mount was done >> after X was started, and switching vtys crashes X so I don't do that. > > This needs fixing. no kidding. at the moment, other stuff has priority... >>>> 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: >>>> lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex >>>> Where does it go if not to stdout? > >>> You've got me! But why is there anything after -x? I don't quite >>> understand. >> >> Otherwise -x thinks the /mnt/goflex belongs to it. > > But what if you leave out ALL the stuff after -x. Isn't it redundant with > the +d switch? (That's not a Socratic question: I don't know.) That's what you get when you build a command line while reading the man page :-) At least in this instance, you get the same result. > Anyway, I found the lsof FAQ by make extract in the port. I quess I am not > too good at reading Makefiles because I don't see why it isn't copied to > /usr/local/share/lsof with the README and whatnot. Thanks, got it. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:58:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB4F106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC58FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54JvxPr003202; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:57:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCD1347.9060209@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:57:59 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> <20120604164244.81e24528.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120604164244.81e24528.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:58:08 -0000 On 06/04/12 08:42, Polytropon wrote: >> In step #4, bsdlabel gives you a label with zeros for fsize, bsize, bps/cpg >> Is it necessary to fill these in, or is there a way to get some >> reasonable defaults? >> "newfs -N" will give you numbers for bsize and fsize, but what about bps/cpg? >> >> What does the install process do for this step? I don't remember >> ever having to deal with it. > > Maybe it's bit overcomplicated. I assume as you're creating > /dev/da1s1e here (non-boot volume on 1st slice, which would > be /dev/da1s1a instead), so basically you're creating a kind > of "data disk" (one full disk, not bootable). Actually, no. That was a cut and paste from the handbook, IIRC. The actual disk will have a backup system and another partition for cron dump files. I don't quite understand the relationship between the params in the label and the filesystem. My impression was that the params in the label for a filesystem were mandatory, but it appears not all of them are. It seems like there should be a cmd to run to get reasonable starting point numbers. If you don't have anything to go on, you could easily stick something in there that's worse than what a default would be. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:58:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291DD106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66AB8FC18 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54JwUhH001147; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:58:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54JwU8u001144; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:58:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:58:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCD0955.6080801@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD0955.6080801@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:58:36 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/04/12 08:15, Warren Block wrote: > >> gamin opens the directory (of the newly-mounted device) so it can check for new files being created or files being renamed, and then notify the window manager, which updates the user's desktop. The open makes the device in-use, preventing an unmount. >> >> Setting gamin to "poll" helps. (I assume it opens the directory, scans, then closes it again, so there's a race condition there, but I haven't encountered it.) >> >> gamin can also be disabled for certain directories. That works (AFAIR, it's been a while), but then you lose instant icon updates on the very directories where it is the most useful. > > Can you tell me where any of this is documented? > I can't find squat about gamin. Found on a google-quest after lsof or stat showed gamin locking the directory where I was mounting stuff: http://people.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 20:01:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2091065675; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7148FC1C; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SbdSy-000BCL-Po; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:01:35 -0400 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375E812BE321; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FCD1417.4060000@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:01:27 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCBAA72.7020103@FreeBSD.org> <20120603191003.GA8028@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20120604183234.GC14162@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20120604183234.GC14162@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,SARE_ADLTSUB4,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:01:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/12 2:32 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:10:03PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:18:26PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> On 03/06/2012 17:05, Roland Smith wrote: >>>> I've used 'make config' to set the PYCAIO option to on; >>>> >>>> slackbox# cat /var/db/ports/py27-py-stl/options # This file >>>> is auto-generated by 'make config'. # Options for >>>> py27-py-stl-3.1 _OPTIONS_READ=py27-py-stl-3.1 >>>> _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=PYCAIRO >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=PYCAIRO >>>> >>>> But the port seems to ignore it: >>>> >>>> slackbox# make showconfig ===> The following configuration >>>> options are available for py27-py-stl-3.1: PYCAIRO=off: Use >>>> (py)Cairo to enable stl2pdf ===> Use 'make config' to modify >>>> these settings >>>> >>>> Every time I do 'make config', the PYCAIRO option will be >>>> unset, even if it shows as set in >>>> /var/db/ports//options! >>> >>> What does >>> >>> % make -V PORT_OPTIONS >> >> slackbox# pwd /usr/ports/graphics/py-stl slackbox# make -V >> PORT_OPTIONS DOCS EXAMPLES NLS >> >>> show? If PYCAIRO is set in PORT_OPTIONS, then the port is >>> accepting your setting of the option, and you've found a bug >>> with the showconfig target. (If so, please open a PR.) > > Well, it was a bug, but not particularly in showconfig alone, see > below. > >>> If not, then something odd is happening, as your port looks >>> perfectly OK to me. Are you using a ports tree updated within >>> about the last 48 hours or so? I know there were some bug >>> fixes went in to all FOO_DESC lines to contain (brackets) and >>> other syntactically significant characters. >> >> I updated my ports tree this afternoon. The really weird thing is >> that I tested 'make config' in several other ports where it >> worked fine... >> >>> PS. Asking this on freebsd-ports@... might be a good idea. > > The bad news is that it was a bug in the ports system. It turned > out that because of the way the unique name of the port was set > (which happens twice), the options file is not read from the same > directory that it is written to! Thanks to Baptiste Daroussin for > clueing me in in this. I've gained a new respect for the people > maintaining the ports infrastructure. :-) It's kind of amazing it > works as well as it does. > > The good news is that there are several workarounds. For future > reference, the workaround that I ended up using was to set the > following variable in the port makefile: > > OPTIONSFILE= ${PORT_DBDIR}/py27-${PORTNAME}/options > > > Roland Hi Roland, I don't think you want to hardcode the "py27-" in the variable assignment, since it ties the filename to a specific version of Python. Check PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX, and it should adjust itself as the Python version changes. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/NFBcACgkQ0sRouByUApDtRgCgl0NvUTwexNS1TdZqqXElKWPX SggAn1b/QRnU8rhwbtu0mebByp+IRB3A =+ly7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 20:26:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D45106566C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03E98FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54KQMM5001398; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:26:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54KQMjd001395; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:26:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:26:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:26:26 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > According the the handbook, one should do the following to set up a new disk: > > 1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1k count=1 > 2 fdisk -BI da1 #Initialize your new disk > 3 bsdlabel -B -w da1s1 auto #Label it. > 4 bsdlabel -e da1s1 # Edit the bsdlabel just created and add any partitions. > 5 mkdir -p /1 > 6 newfs /dev/da1s1e # Repeat this for every partition you created. > 7 mount /dev/da1s1e /1 # Mount the partition(s) > 8 vi /etc/fstab # Add the appropriate entry/entries to your /etc/fstab. > > In step #4, bsdlabel gives you a label with zeros for fsize, bsize, bps/cpg > Is it necessary to fill these in, or is there a way to get some reasonable defaults? > "newfs -N" will give you numbers for bsize and fsize, but what about bps/cpg? > > What does the install process do for this step? I don't remember ever having to deal with it. What part of the Handbook? I would suggest using gpart(8), it makes GPT partitions easy, and nasty old MBR partitions aren't any worse than with fdisk/bsdlabel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 20:35:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B843106567B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D728FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54KZno1003327; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:35:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCD1C25.1020006@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:35:49 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD0955.6080801@dreamchaser.org> <20120604214018.bc46d44b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120604214018.bc46d44b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:35:49 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:35:55 -0000 On 06/04/12 13:40, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:15:33 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Can you tell me where any of this is documented? >> I can't find squat about gamin. >> no man page and no docs in the /usr/local tree > > Welcome to the realm of modern software and its aversion > against documentation. :-) > > In such cases, you often need to use a web browser, google, > and search for keywords related to your problem. Actually, did, but missed it. I know I had the spelling right because I was flooded with "gaRmin" results and had to check. I'll go hide in the corner now... >> Checked the port options for gamin itself and see there's >> a place to turn on the poller, to that should solve that problem. > > No, this setting is done in a configuration file (installed > version of course). The setting is > > poll /mnt/* > poll /media/* > > or > > poll /dev/* > > or the like - not sure, I'm not using it. It's also an option at build time. Or at least it shows up there: [*] GAM_POLLER Use gamin's poller instead of kqueue's >> But where does one learn about disabling specific directories >> or other info? > > In arbitrary web forums, wikis and user pages. :-) > > Here's an example: > > http://people.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html Found that easily now, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 20:38:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA99D106570B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5369F8FC1B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so2633391wib.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MQFZdqdYAnTyWbZq7wTuq9jTGJ/uFQe/HZ365bpE84w=; b=UxW80R7tX9RsfSWNogNHZb9x+INdif8BJ0GQ/F7CGGIALBQiHQtU+ExwQkCDqvcTCN vIcUPK6pAXCnoQyhIBl2fir3RzYxQpVx55xCfrsdjo05Hwr92g+YTgNjwyOAC6MM5yp0 t0GXdoEKOId067ybpIaX8ZOk2II4tJNftyFSYH8gBdGKiLUtXGkkoXvfnS9+0AODSUlO h4TiZuyFSWhIeM3Vn1W/DJxXD+XAF5SOnvP6V8EcY9Ga5pKMaQ4Sy3J/4/20h9Q24ebl 4pFXM8JfWwZqJhRlUeKPNIIfRAuQSaNyW8HPSesAu5LU7ndEDud7VWr49ZJ+OBlpiAq7 mMow== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.147 with SMTP id y19mr4365771wei.33.1338842336144; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:38:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:38:57 -0000 On Jun 3, 2012 9:52 AM, "Waitman Gobble" wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Joe Gain wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i >> >>>>> rebuilt >> >>>>> the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and >> >>>>> started >> >>>>> X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the >> >>>>> road >> >>>>> and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i >> >>>>> can >> >>>>> run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If >> >>>>> I >> >>>>> try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up. >> >>>>> It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of >> >>>>> the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :) >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12. After that, run >> >>>> pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Rebuild anything that says it is >> >>>> missing libxfce4-utils. >> >>>> >> >>>> After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's >> >>>> a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS). >> >>>> Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the >> >>>> machine. Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine. These last two >> >>>> could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not >> >>>> happen until xfce-4.10. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> thanks. i'll check it out.. >> >>> >> >>> Waitman >> >>> >> >>> >> >> spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machine >> >> runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log in >> >> as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that if i >> >> do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like snap >> >> of a finger instantly. >> >> >> >> I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll >> >> have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop >> >> rebooting :) >> >> >> >> i'll try the pkg_libchk >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Waitman >> >> >> >> >> > this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up with >> > the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see this. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> Can't help with a solution. >> >> I had a very similar problem. I'm following 9.0-STABLE (rev. 235976 >> ca. week old) using xfce and have a thinkpad laptop with intel >> on-board graphics chip. My problems started when I updated the cairo >> port, and at the time I couldn't really believe that cairo was the >> cause of _the_ problem, because of the way X was crashing. What was >> even more frustrating was that the Xorg log file was not revealing >> anything other than "unknown error" and segfault. So, I didn't know >> what to do for a while, and after spending a couple of days looking >> for an answer, downgrading cairo fixed that issue. >> >> Couple of days later the new xfce is also available, and I have had no >> problems running it, on stable with downgraded (currently current >> again*) cairo. Be sure to read UPDATING with respect to xfce4-utils >> etc. >> >> It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows what's going on >> as this is the first major hiccup that I've had using freebsd. >> >> Thanks, Joe >> >> * http://www.freshports.org/commit.php?category=graphics&port=cairo&files=yes&message_id=201205260354.q4Q3sBOI042864@repoman.freebsd.org >> -- >> joe gain >> >> jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 >> 78464 konstanz >> germany >> >> +49 (0)7531 60389 >> >> (...otherwise in ???) > > > > Hi, > > I think I finally got to the bottom of my instant rebooting issue. I did a csup and rebuilt world/kernel, but doing a pkg_add or running xfce4 would still reboot the machine. This morning I scoured my logs and found one message that lead me to solution: bad dir ino xxxx AT OFFSET xxx: MANGLED ENTRY. > > It looks like on my machine that /var/tmp got wrecked, the fsck on boot wasn't catching it. > > I booted into single user mode and ran fsck -y a few times, the second time it skipped the journal to do a 'regular fsck' (maybe there is a switch to force it to skip the journal anyway?). w/o Journal it picked up the inode problems and fixed.. then mounted drive rw and deleted stuff in /var/tmp > > pkg_add works fine now, i haven't tried xfce4 yet but i bet it's going to work. > > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > I updated to xfce4.10 using amd64 packages and everything seems to work, except for some reason "startxfce4" is missing.... but i can get it to start fine by putting "exec xfce4-session" in my .xinitrc.. anyone else experience this issue? Thanks, Waitman Gobble San Jose California US From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 20:56:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC1310657B2 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D4D8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54KuwI9003385 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:56:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCD211A.5070004@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:56:58 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:56:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:56:59 -0000 > I updated to xfce4.10 using amd64 packages and everything seems to work, > except for some reason "startxfce4" is missing.... but i can get it to > start fine by putting "exec xfce4-session" in my .xinitrc.. anyone else > experience this issue? %which startxfce4 /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 installed from ports/x11-wm/xfce4 I think as a dependency on ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 20:59:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372341065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19348FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q54KxiGj003391; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:59:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCD21C0.50200@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:59:44 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:59:45 -0000 On 06/04/12 14:26, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> According the the handbook, one should do the following to set up a new disk: >> >> 1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1k count=1 >> 2 fdisk -BI da1 #Initialize your new disk >> 3 bsdlabel -B -w da1s1 auto #Label it. >> 4 bsdlabel -e da1s1 # Edit the bsdlabel just created and add any partitions. >> 5 mkdir -p /1 >> 6 newfs /dev/da1s1e # Repeat this for every partition you created. >> 7 mount /dev/da1s1e /1 # Mount the partition(s) >> 8 vi /etc/fstab # Add the appropriate entry/entries to your /etc/fstab. >> >> In step #4, bsdlabel gives you a label with zeros for fsize, bsize, bps/cpg >> Is it necessary to fill these in, or is there a way to get some reasonable defaults? >> "newfs -N" will give you numbers for bsize and fsize, but what about bps/cpg? >> >> What does the install process do for this step? I don't remember ever having to deal with it. > > What part of the Handbook? I would suggest using gpart(8), it makes GPT partitions easy, and nasty old MBR partitions aren't any worse than with fdisk/bsdlabel. 19.3.2 Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 21:01:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FED1065670 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from pop.cape.com (pop.cape.com [209.213.66.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AEC8FC21 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.cape.com (pop.cape.com [127.0.0.1]) by pop.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA181FCC0F; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209.213.65.17 (SquirrelMail authenticated user crtb) by webmail.cape.com with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <23154.209.213.65.17.1338843267.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:54:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chuck Bacon" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: 9.0-R boots with undesirable utf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:01:02 -0000 MoBo: ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO uname -a: FreeBSD tomato.local 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Boots up with an ungainly utf which presents 4-digit stuff where a single is wanted. Aging admin needs appropriate setenv '?' ISO-8859-1. (Next question will be about jabber with re0 :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 21:25:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B9F1065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F958FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54LPVes001775; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:25:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q54LPVLc001772; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:25:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:25:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCD21C0.50200@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD21C0.50200@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:25:34 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: >> What part of the Handbook? I would suggest using gpart(8), it makes GPT partitions easy, and nasty old MBR partitions aren't any worse than with fdisk/bsdlabel. > > 19.3.2 That's the Storage chapter, section "Command Line Utilities". That is yet another section that needs updating. In the meantime, here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html The second half of that covers using gpart(8). I suggest using GPT partitions unless your configuration does not allow them (gmirror, for example). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 21:26:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE1D1065686; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32808FC24; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q54LPiZg066298; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:25:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E047D1235B; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:25:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:25:43 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Greg Larkin Message-ID: <20120604212543.GA19182@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCBAA72.7020103@FreeBSD.org> <20120603191003.GA8028@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20120604183234.GC14162@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCD1417.4060000@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FCD1417.4060000@FreeBSD.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:26:21 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 04:01:27PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: > > Well, it was a bug, but not particularly in showconfig alone, see > > below. > >=20 > >>> If not, then something odd is happening, as your port looks > >>> perfectly OK to me. Are you using a ports tree updated within > >>> about the last 48 hours or so? I know there were some bug > >>> fixes went in to all FOO_DESC lines to contain (brackets) and > >>> other syntactically significant characters. > >>=20 > >> I updated my ports tree this afternoon. The really weird thing is > >> that I tested 'make config' in several other ports where it > >> worked fine... > >>=20 > >>> PS. Asking this on freebsd-ports@... might be a good idea. > >=20 > > The bad news is that it was a bug in the ports system. It turned > > out that because of the way the unique name of the port was set > > (which happens twice), the options file is not read from the same > > directory that it is written to! Thanks to Baptiste Daroussin for > > clueing me in in this. I've gained a new respect for the people > > maintaining the ports infrastructure. :-) It's kind of amazing it > > works as well as it does. > >=20 > > The good news is that there are several workarounds. For future > > reference, the workaround that I ended up using was to set the > > following variable in the port makefile: > >=20 > > OPTIONSFILE=3D ${PORT_DBDIR}/py27-${PORTNAME}/options > >=20 > >=20 > > Roland >=20 > Hi Roland, >=20 > I don't think you want to hardcode the "py27-" in the variable > assignment, since it ties the filename to a specific version of > Python. Check PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX, and it should adjust itself as > the Python version changes. Actually, if I understood correctly, the fact that PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX _changes_ from py- to py27- in different parts of the included .mk files is what causes the problem in the first place. So I did this on purpose. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/NJ9cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUUGwCgroUMig7A1BSDplILsgwwb9HM f0UAniDua8dw40qLZvQ3cf92ySuKgxZk =ldPe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 21:53:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C59106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371678FC22 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4FD88E8098A; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:43:08 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: how do I fix this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:53:04 -0000 guys, it has taken me almost a month to upgrade 700 ports. somehow, things grew to 1100+ ports. [?] {this is just FWIW.} I've tried portmaster and p'upgrade on "security/gnupg" I dont see why I should need these on my Server... anyway, from portupgrade, I just learned this: gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/security/gnupg/work/gnupg-2.0.18' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20120604-59509-nufufc-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=gnupg-2.0.17_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.0.17_1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! security/gnupg (gnupg-2.0.17_1) (linker error) ethic# can anybody onlist figure out WTF is wrong here? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 21:58:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC942106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8A08FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so2689928wib.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+l49Y2FFn4PgqT7fjC8+Ka+tjwimAW8RmfmvelVvrIE=; b=C+XBWQhKFti1dN2Llis2evZwqN30gfeQ77zI5+AhqpntKTaGuJJMmobf4VD2qGpIyu pUuXWncrW+mBTVU7GlrS4QKuLT4PYT4HSROpBHvuAxyRnLjk1yfOGCTNxzp/XN/kmnvM xfNrqcrpNzAPstXwesM6E/F8vtdnjgFSIrQVprIryF342bH7EBvwwF29CcMzmb372WLm 8XwIYT1AR9oB+0zuRmYZh1g9TIE36dhq2KJSA3KQSKJoWHhm1o0OQNnCstB3TGMZbI+K ruUkncNdAfJ9hq0x4opBltKmaiAizC1LWCeUApeZqYa2TunonFBaPJsQD1fM7Y8+XP3V JPGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.153 with SMTP id p25mr12278793wej.112.1338847099205; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCD211A.5070004@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FCD211A.5070004@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:58:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:58:21 -0000 On Jun 4, 2012 1:58 PM, "Gary Aitken" wrote: > > > > I updated to xfce4.10 using amd64 packages and everything seems to work, > > except for some reason "startxfce4" is missing.... but i can get it to > > start fine by putting "exec xfce4-session" in my .xinitrc.. anyone else > > experience this issue? > > %which startxfce4 > /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > > installed from > ports/x11-wm/xfce4 > I think as a dependency on > ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks. that's where it used to be on my machine... this evening i'll check and see if its in the tbz, i still have the package file. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm42225462yhh.20.2012.06.04.15.24.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W5rLK6NSJz2CG47 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:24:57 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120604182457.301b5d74@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> References: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmzdiFSvfzcdzYdHdDFdURO8mSq2fT+tfKn2FfeCMR+6JimBUHOYppDJkOf8lDXokCODtae Subject: Re: how do I fix this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:25:01 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:43:08 -0700 Gary Kline articulated: >from portupgrade, I just learned this: > >gmake[1]: Leaving directory >`/usr/ports/security/gnupg/work/gnupg-2.0.18' >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. >** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa >/tmp/portupgrade20120604-59509-nufufc-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade >UPGRADE_PORT=gnupg-2.0.17_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.0.17_1 make >** Fix the problem and try again. >** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > ! security/gnupg (gnupg-2.0.17_1) (linker error) >ethic# > > > can anybody onlist figure out WTF is wrong here? Well, for starters, gnupg is at version 2.0.19 in my ports tree, so I am not sure what is wrong with yours. I might suggest the following. 1) Clean out "/usr/ports/distfiles" 2) Update your ports tree 3) Run: make clean in the gnupg port 4) Attempt to rebuild and install the port. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 22:28:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAF8106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3878FC1B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q54LwrBu079345; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:58:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FCD2F53.10108@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:57:39 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Aitken References: <4FC7F8AE.1010307@dreamchaser.org> <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCAAB17.2010905@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:28:46 -0000 2012-06-03 02:08, Gary Aitken skrev: > > I've deinstalled cups and its dependencies and rebuilt only hpijs. Did you build it with foomatic-rip if so then you have ppd files in /usr/local/share/foomatic/db/source/PPD/ Don't know if it is for your specific printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 22:31:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03903106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25548FC1B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so3415599vcb.13 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:31:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :x-kmail-markup:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:x-gm-message-state; bh=cRGdyucMPdU01DicGI0tBsKYeSUJEhkOWmF5rAeOMTg=; b=gBdixl8b522JOEgsiFLb7FtTPnAIggbdaSmnJNfEqbhJWOymT4NwTg5EYJ4UIzTtrs IUD9TGlrQDMB/g0+ArK0CVTxpsMWXgCJh47ByLxYOimr1VlVIl3zibtUXaXt2336VQpR 2R/PngfDuBHEoLV0iQJMw7p2UQO0lWou+1MAHJZ5EaZaJ83jEwJjEs3nRJIjJXqGMbFB ZEOKvVtZMX/bS157PIZmWVByekxz2KnHRdv8I8VxZ4rkLTm9B33i0rWjsATyKrmJJRKM 2XJKu/QnTZA1GnZ36q6QP5AqZGE0FC2Y7aI99JJ6iLJifEx18a7ia3PVKXUBs1rS6Rro eKQQ== Received: by 10.52.179.168 with SMTP id dh8mr12013176vdc.120.1338849074838; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([186.212.110.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm19415510vde.16.2012.06.04.15.31.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:31:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:31:43 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120604161201.542af348.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120604161201.542af348.freebsd@edvax.de> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206041931.43245.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmx30qWLgEQUjkSdbzLS+k7s+9sGUNQAgoi6ILrzUiSscWSrSP60oh0vXesy4QcF79BK99n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:31:16 -0000 On Monday 04 June 2012 11:12:01 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download > > videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the > > internet", where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you > > should's watch it. > > Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media > player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff, > brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have > dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited > means of user friendlyness. Flashblocker and downloadhelper plugins for FF. Work like a charm !! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 22:38:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919B81065672 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8248FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084D33CD4C; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:37:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q54Mbv9L007014; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:37:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:37:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mario Lobo Message-Id: <20120605003757.8b078e72.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201206041931.43245.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <5D.C1.05368.3393CCF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120604161201.542af348.freebsd@edvax.de> <201206041931.43245.lobo@bsd.com.br> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:38:05 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:31:43 -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Monday 04 June 2012 11:12:01 Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download > > > videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the > > > internet", where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you > > > should's watch it. > > > > Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media > > player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff, > > brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have > > dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited > > means of user friendlyness. > > Flashblocker and downloadhelper plugins for FF. Work like a charm !! Yes, but may require too much interactivity. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 23:20:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39558106577A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1577B8FC16 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer64 (c-67-186-61-206.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [67.186.61.206]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6744B829 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:13:48 -0400 From: Rod Person To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120604191348.2a879b56@atomizer64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Strange dmesg entry, MCA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:20:21 -0000 I'm seen this once or twice and it show up again today, I'm not exactly sure what these MCA lines are telling me. Is this something to worry about? fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 pid 90013 (cppunittester), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) MCA: Bank 4, Status 0x9445400000000a13 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000105, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "AuthenticAMD", ID 0x20f12, APIC ID 0 MCA: CPU 0 COR BUSLG Responder RD Memory MCA: Address 0x1d11afcd0 MCA: Bank 2, Status 0xd000400000000863 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000105, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "AuthenticAMD", ID 0x20f12, APIC ID 1 MCA: CPU 1 COR OVER BUSLG Source PREFETCH Memory -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodperson@rodperson.com "Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity, go on sending all the slaves that can be sold." - Letter from Christopher Columbus. J.A. Rawley, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade: A History. Pg.3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 23:22:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E109106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCA208FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12146 invoked by uid 110); 4 Jun 2012 23:22:08 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2012 23:22:08 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "kpneal@pobox.com" Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:21:53 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: <20120604230335.GA41339@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120604232210.4E109106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 support for LSI SAS 2208 based controllers/Dell PERC 710 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:22:10 -0000 I'm glad to hear at least the Perc 6/i is working fine with R610 which is what I'm looking to get to avoid all the trouble with the new R620 Albeit I need to use the 1TB SAS drives that are 6gbps, so I really wanted to use the H700 instead of the much older Perc 6/i, which I also have working fine in a number of R710s When you get a chance, please find out what those other R610s are running and in what RAID config. I'm surprised so few on the list use Dell's Perc H700 Thanks, Simon On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:03:35 -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 02:28:18PM -0400, Simon wrote: >> >> I'm wondering if this was resolved. I was looking at Dell R610s with Perc H700 >> and no solid information either. Found a few threads with people having issues >> with it, no solutions. These been out since early 2010, not cutting edge by any >> means. >> >> Is anyone using Dell R610/R620 with Perc H700/H710 reliably for some time? >I've got an R610 with the PERC 6/i (not what you asked) that runs like a >champ. I plan on upgrading the card at some point, but for now it works >fine. The trick was to turn off _all_ the power savings features (C1E, >etc) in the BIOS. >We have I don't even know how many R610 at work running FreeBSD 8.2 with >some kind of RAID card, but I don't know which one. Those machines get >pounded all day every day and I haven't heard of any problems. I haven't >noticed any as a user. I'll find out and report back. >I also have my R620 and the latest stable/8 has support for the H710 card >("Mini", "Monolithic"). It works well enough to create a couple of ZFS >pools and copy the install of FreeBSD over to the disks. But I have the >Broadcom 5720 network daughtercard that doesn't work yet, so I don't know >how the H710 performs under load. >Am I correct that LSI is contributing to the drivers for the Dell cards >that use LSI chips? Can someone verify that I'm not looney? >The R620 went on sale within days of Intel's release of the chips. To be >fair to FreeBSD the firmware that Dell shipped is ... half baked at best. >For a while it insisted on using the wrong IP when using DHCP, the network >upgrade of the firmware via FTP+proxy requests the wrong URL, etc etc. The >Dell DVD-ROM USB drive can't be connected at the same time as the "iDRAC" >network port or else the firmware won't initialize. And Dell had access >to the hardware before it shipped. So I can't complain about FreeBSD's >support for the R620 not being 100% in place when Dell hasn't gotten their >act together yet. >I'm told that support for the Broadcom card is being worked on. I do not >have a timeframe. >-- >Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ >Seen on bottom of IBM part number 1887724: >DO NOT EXPOSE MOUSE PAD TO DIRECT SUNLIGHT FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 23:48:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98637106566C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A59E8FC14 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BE23D3F633 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:50:03 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120604185003.0047104c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <4FCC99ED.3030409@gmail.com> References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <4FCC99ED.3030409@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:48:14 -0000 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:20:13 +0100 Kaya Saman wrote: > On 06/04/2012 04:42 AM, Zane C. B-H. wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:06:57 +0100 > > Kaya Saman wrote: > > > > I've just tried this and lost my whole system..... > > My boot disk is not labeled to work with ahci as it just has > standard formatting on there. > > Need to remove the ahci_load="YES" from /boot/loader.conf file now. Ack, my apologies. Forgot about that. Yeah, you will need to do it from the loader prompt if you want to test it. Unless you are booting off of gmirror or have /etc/fstab configured with something else that will automatically be found, you will have a problem. But from the loader prompt it should be... load /boot/kernel/ahci.kp show rootdev If rootdev shows any thing other than shows boot device as ad, rewrite it as ada, using the set command. See loader(8). This will get it to boot, although it will error and drop to single user mode as /etc/fstab contains the old stuff. Just manually mount everything and continue. At this point it should be up and running and able to test it out. 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[81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3sm37481063wiz.9.2012.06.04.17.04.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCD4CEF.7050008@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:03:59 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <4FCC99ED.3030409@gmail.com> <20120604185003.0047104c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120604185003.0047104c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:04:05 -0000 On 06/05/2012 12:50 AM, Zane C. B-H. wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:20:13 +0100 > Kaya Saman wrote: > >> On 06/04/2012 04:42 AM, Zane C. B-H. wrote: >>> On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:06:57 +0100 >>> Kaya Saman wrote: >> >> >> I've just tried this and lost my whole system..... >> >> My boot disk is not labeled to work with ahci as it just has >> standard formatting on there. >> >> Need to remove the ahci_load="YES" from /boot/loader.conf file now. > Ack, my apologies. Forgot about that. > > Yeah, you will need to do it from the loader prompt if you want to > test it. > > Unless you are booting off of gmirror or have /etc/fstab configured > with something else that will automatically be found, you will have a > problem. > > But from the loader prompt it should be... > > load /boot/kernel/ahci.kp > show rootdev > > If rootdev shows any thing other than shows boot device as ad, > rewrite it as ada, using the set command. See loader(8). > > This will get it to boot, although it will error and drop to single > user mode as /etc/fstab contains the old stuff. Just manually mount > everything and continue. > > At this point it should be up and running and able to test it out. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks for the information! I had a small issue at the bootloader> prompt, my USB keyboard didn't work as in it seems the kernel modules weren't loaded in order for the keys to function. Not sure how to get round that one :-) Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 00:09:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBED1065674 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF58C8FC16 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04C23CCCC; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5509Qsb007325; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:09:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:09:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kaya Saman Message-Id: <20120605020926.31d8af57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCD4CEF.7050008@gmail.com> References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <4FCC99ED.3030409@gmail.com> <20120604185003.0047104c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <4FCD4CEF.7050008@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:09:28 -0000 On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:03:59 +0100, Kaya Saman wrote: > I had a small issue at the bootloader> prompt, my USB keyboard didn't > work as in it seems the kernel modules weren't loaded in order for the > keys to function. > > Not sure how to get round that one :-) Check the BIOS settings: Sometimes you can enable "USB keyboard legacy" so it will also work at the "lower levels" of interactivity. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 00:12:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0BA1065672; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AA78FC0A; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabj40 with SMTP id j40so2289042qab.15 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bvg8MT2bM7PI9kkN367nvC0PY1gUcS8IXT9cHfhBEsI=; b=sFvusZPIErsX3V+NXz/fTuxMtWNlQsEKsAyxkZM4GLN88gWRkODBZPP2OnmHg13ng2 hZesS6QWHi3lqlBV4OTebFDiXarN9/bjZZfvDOuS4/ztQoEPfE/IH2yM0GIcbzy+/y4d XxR8dyFqa4yOgEDIjoKBdBfDwdUlJRW2FfWSszKKiDHXRyFbLcmsTa1Janzr9+KFr0ug 4Y6+/kywC8oFRGe0b/40ql76E69qjO0/j5lDQ+4Up2EMcsUKOnUdsA7tncHKtNklLYuj V+5xz/TndPVg+9fs14lQhpL299vvgdwiiKPX/Hlo51ijSx6VDPwnUwNEORYFOwsMCtHA ri2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.181.83 with SMTP id bx19mr14981417qab.79.1338855159331; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.40.138 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:12:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCB91CC.7060502@rawbw.com> References: <20120530143824.GA18299@aurora.oekb.co.at> <44txyxfx1q.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4FCB91CC.7060502@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Lowell Gilbert , questions@freebsd.org, Ewald Jenisch , chromium@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chromium - fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:12:40 -0000 On 3 June 2012 12:33, Yuri wrote: > On 05/30/2012 09:33, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> >> Yes. Chromium currently depends on SSE3; the recommended way of enabling >> that appears to be setting CPUTYPE. > > > Port should be ding that itself. > Make use of misc/cpuid if needed. Make it BUILDDEP. > > Currently 19.0.1084.52 fails to build for me too. > Doesn't seem to matter what CPUTYPE is, but adding -mssse3 to CFLAGS let it finish. But the whole linux fiasco with chromium depending on udev is making me not want to use it. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 00:27:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A6B1065672 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8798B8FC15 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so4576768wgb.31 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:27:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GsbWZ68X1vweug1pGGCz+AYrIE//Km63Kx9XDnBzeco=; b=mqgsWI/XH84jdpt4aSK1R/L6kMzD80xBttfCBG/+kDkmftOhguuzMLPZ2CTdhDw1fo 4N9gs9yeDULhj+FqBhhwn9TTlagCM7QV03/kYxGvbdLAY/U7xeIxQKNt+mqoR590hRq+ 3GnkpgcfZE6uxKU52ThSkmzT/zJtIuZsT2P1LRkRLVTccGhOszU8ZxdSFkxb7jVOQz6X gw2GvlzzCD6q/w83BdugfvqVy6sUS8a1yDh4AmUX2Fpw8wHKGkmRQcLi/GnmVo7ei/Li kEoHG896skHvv0QBZ7tvpoyRgza6qyEHBmMzlzVAL14q7etmSzIa/IXDTud7kVqcyYvT YpKA== Received: by 10.216.194.93 with SMTP id l71mr12836808wen.169.1338856031124; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f19sm37695001wiw.11.2012.06.04.17.27.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCD525B.1020105@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:27:07 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FCC0A31.3000902@gmail.com> <20120603224223.123bc4fa@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <4FCC99ED.3030409@gmail.com> <20120604185003.0047104c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <4FCD4CEF.7050008@gmail.com> <20120605020926.31d8af57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120605020926.31d8af57.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange case of vanishing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:27:14 -0000 On 06/05/2012 01:09 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:03:59 +0100, Kaya Saman wrote: >> I had a small issue at the bootloader> prompt, my USB keyboard didn't >> work as in it seems the kernel modules weren't loaded in order for the >> keys to function. >> >> Not sure how to get round that one :-) > Check the BIOS settings: Sometimes you can enable "USB > keyboard legacy" so it will also work at the "lower levels" > of interactivity. > > Did that! Enabled USB legacy support - didn't work. At the time was Google'ing the issue too however nobody really had an answer.... all that was suggested was the load the keyboard modules, but how can one do that with access to system. Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 00:40:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4001065670 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com [17.158.161.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2655F8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:40:05 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5400ES09QM4100@nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:39:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-04_06:2012-05-21, 2012-06-04, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206040305 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20120604191348.2a879b56@atomizer64> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:39:57 -0700 Message-id: References: <20120604191348.2a879b56@atomizer64> To: Rod Person X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Strange dmesg entry, MCA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:40:05 -0000 On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Rod Person wrote: > I'm seen this once or twice and it show up again today, I'm not exactly > sure what these MCA lines are telling me. Is this something to worry > about? > > fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 > pid 90013 (cppunittester), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > MCA: Bank 4, Status 0x9445400000000a13 > MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000105, Status 0x0000000000000000 > MCA: Vendor "AuthenticAMD", ID 0x20f12, APIC ID 0 > MCA: CPU 0 COR BUSLG Responder RD Memory > MCA: Address 0x1d11afcd0 > MCA: Bank 2, Status 0xd000400000000863 > MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000105, Status 0x0000000000000000 > MCA: Vendor "AuthenticAMD", ID 0x20f12, APIC ID 1 > MCA: CPU 1 COR OVER BUSLG Source PREFETCH Memory Your CPUs were seeing correctible errors (probably via ECC memory or bus path); if they only happen rarely, it's probably OK to ignore them, but it's likely worth running memtest86 or prime95 overnight and seeing whether they find problems. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 01:36:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56DC106566C; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 01:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F308FC08; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 01:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SbihM-000CtO-Hg; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:36:43 -0400 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399BE12BF5DE; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FCD62A3.5010301@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:36:35 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCBAA72.7020103@FreeBSD.org> <20120603191003.GA8028@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20120604183234.GC14162@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCD1417.4060000@FreeBSD.org> <20120604212543.GA19182@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20120604212543.GA19182@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,SARE_ADLTSUB4,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:36:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/12 5:25 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 04:01:27PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: >>> Well, it was a bug, but not particularly in showconfig alone, >>> see below. >>> >>>>> If not, then something odd is happening, as your port >>>>> looks perfectly OK to me. Are you using a ports tree >>>>> updated within about the last 48 hours or so? I know there >>>>> were some bug fixes went in to all FOO_DESC lines to >>>>> contain (brackets) and other syntactically significant >>>>> characters. >>>> >>>> I updated my ports tree this afternoon. The really weird >>>> thing is that I tested 'make config' in several other ports >>>> where it worked fine... >>>> >>>>> PS. Asking this on freebsd-ports@... might be a good idea. >>> >>> The bad news is that it was a bug in the ports system. It >>> turned out that because of the way the unique name of the port >>> was set (which happens twice), the options file is not read >>> from the same directory that it is written to! Thanks to >>> Baptiste Daroussin for clueing me in in this. I've gained a new >>> respect for the people maintaining the ports infrastructure. >>> :-) It's kind of amazing it works as well as it does. >>> >>> The good news is that there are several workarounds. For >>> future reference, the workaround that I ended up using was to >>> set the following variable in the port makefile: >>> >>> OPTIONSFILE= ${PORT_DBDIR}/py27-${PORTNAME}/options >>> >>> >>> Roland >> >> Hi Roland, >> >> I don't think you want to hardcode the "py27-" in the variable >> assignment, since it ties the filename to a specific version of >> Python. Check PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX, and it should adjust itself >> as the Python version changes. > > Actually, if I understood correctly, the fact that > PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX _changes_ from py- to py27- in different parts > of the included .mk files is what causes the problem in the first > place. So I did this on purpose. > > Roland Hi Roland, Ok, I should have read the previous thread emails more closely. At any rate, putting a specific Python version into the name of the OPTIONSFILE seems a bit confusing. Could you achieve the same outcome by putting "py-" instead of "py27-" in the name? Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/NYqIACgkQ0sRouByUApBeJACgyuHOEkwVWIdVq31XkLtd89AQ GWsAoLzZpiKWOAe2u8sEWEM/kGvvnmT+ =JKWu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 02:32:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087881065686 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78388FC27 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q552RlDk027943 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:27:47 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q552RljG027942; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:27:47 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 37C6CB7C1; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:26:49 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from grarpamp on Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:10:00 -0400) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: Message-Id: <20120605022649.37C6CB7C1@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:26:49 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: /usr/bin/find - binary operands howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:32:45 -0000 >> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:10:00 -0400, >> grarpamp said: G> Given a fs with millions of inodes, multiple find runs is expensive. As G> is performing the ch* on more than the minimum required inodes, which G> also needlessly updates the inode ctime. So I want one find, doing the G> ch* only if necessary. So how should I write this? Do I want to use G> -true/-false somehow? It might be more efficient to keep find output in either a flat file or DB, so you can avoid multiple walks over the filetree. You'll need GNU find: #!/bin/sh export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin test "$1" || set . echo '#filetype|inode|links|uname|gname|mode|size|mtime|pathname' gfind $@ -printf '%y|%i|%n|%u|%g|%m|%s|%T@|%p\n' exit 0 Sample output: root# chown 1234 stuff root# chgrp 5678 stuff me% ls -l drwxr-sr-x 3 kev local 512 04-Jun-2012 21:01:41 . drwxr-xr-x 2 kev local 512 04-Jun-2012 21:38:47 mail -rw-r--r-x 1 kev local 47072 04-Jun-2012 19:34:26 mail/junk* -rw-r--r-- 1 1234 5678 85 19-May-2012 23:28:30 stuff -rw-r--r-- 1 kev local 8104 04-Jun-2012 19:43:44 testing me% [run script] #filetype|inode|links|uname|gname|mode|size|mtime|pathname d|873603|3|kev|local|2755|512|1338858101|. d|1188634|2|kev|local|2755|512|1338860327|./mail f|1188649|1|kev|local|645|47072|1338852866|./mail/junk f|955452|1|1234|5678|644|85|1337484510|./stuff f|873708|1|kev|local|644|8104|1338853424|./testing Run this first, then look for the conditions you want using awk or perl. Advantages: * Doesn't change ctime, no additional filetree-walking. * You can use this to create your locate DB, if you want to avoid a second pass through the filesystem. * Gives you a point-in-time picture of ownership, mode, etc. in case you need to back out your changes. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. --Henny Youngman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 04:53:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B08106564A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 04:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2488FC08 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 04:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A5FD5E802B9; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:53:11 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120605045311.GB6634@thought.org> References: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> <20120604182457.301b5d74@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120604182457.301b5d74@scorpio> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: how do I fix this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:53:12 -0000 On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 06:24:57PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:24:57 -0400 > From: Jerry > Subject: Re: how do I fix this? > To: FreeBSD > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:43:08 -0700 > Gary Kline articulated: > > >from portupgrade, I just learned this: > > > >gmake[1]: Leaving directory > >`/usr/ports/security/gnupg/work/gnupg-2.0.18' > >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. > >** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > >/tmp/portupgrade20120604-59509-nufufc-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade > >UPGRADE_PORT=gnupg-2.0.17_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.0.17_1 make > >** Fix the problem and try again. > >** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > > ! security/gnupg (gnupg-2.0.17_1) (linker error) > >ethic# > > > > > > can anybody onlist figure out WTF is wrong here? > > Well, for starters, gnupg is at version 2.0.19 in my ports tree, so I > am not sure what is wrong with yours. I might suggest the following. > > 1) Clean out "/usr/ports/distfiles" > 2) Update your ports tree > 3) Run: make clean in the gnupg port > 4) Attempt to rebuild and install the port. > > > -- > Jerry ??? > no joy. I did another full upgrade. first time in many months. then spent a couple hours with portmaster (thank you, Roland:). this as a first upgrade. what I want to do is get as current as possible and then install 7.5. and stay there. another question involves accepting the "3-D" windows with whatever options they might present. is there any upgrade utility or flag that will accept and upgrade things without me having to be here? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 05:49:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD47106566C; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 05:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029DF8FC12; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 05:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q555mgFD079042; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:48:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 778CF12349; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:48:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:48:42 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Greg Larkin Message-ID: <20120605054842.GA21247@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120603160518.GA6631@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCBAA72.7020103@FreeBSD.org> <20120603191003.GA8028@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20120604183234.GC14162@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCD1417.4060000@FreeBSD.org> <20120604212543.GA19182@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4FCD62A3.5010301@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FCD62A3.5010301@FreeBSD.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: optionsng ignores /var/db/ports//options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:49:14 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:36:35PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: > >> Hi Roland, > >>=20 > >> I don't think you want to hardcode the "py27-" in the variable=20 > >> assignment, since it ties the filename to a specific version of=20 > >> Python. Check PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX, and it should adjust itself > >> as the Python version changes. > >=20 > > Actually, if I understood correctly, the fact that > > PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX _changes_ from py- to py27- in different parts > > of the included .mk files is what causes the problem in the first > > place. So I did this on purpose. > >=20 > > Roland >=20 > Hi Roland, >=20 > Ok, I should have read the previous thread emails more closely. At > any rate, putting a specific Python version into the name of the > OPTIONSFILE seems a bit confusing.=20 OTOH, it keeps the name of /var/db/port//options in line with the packagename (without the version number), and it is what most Python-based ports seem to do. > Could you achieve the same outcome > by putting "py-" instead of "py27-" in the name? Yes, more or less. There are ports that do that as well. But the majority s= eem to include the python version. AFAICT to be able to install the same package with different options for different Python versions.=20 Anyway, the PR for updating my port is out. And one of the maintainers is working on some of the warts of the ports system. It turns out that this bug was already reported two years ago. But the ports system is quite a complex beast... =20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/NnboACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUmrQCbBdFy8nI/IsBzbTgLeaQwtDHL r/cAoKRy+WGK3xIfvTEaMQosHRJ8ImHY =zvS0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 06:05:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAD9106568A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E588FC12 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5564ZJL063237; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:04:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7A4D612349; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:04:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:04:35 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20120605060435.GB21247@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> <20120604182457.301b5d74@scorpio> <20120605045311.GB6634@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5I6of5zJg18YgZEa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120605045311.GB6634@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: how do I fix this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:05:08 -0000 --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:53:11PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Subject: Re: how do I fix this? > > To: FreeBSD > > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) > >=20 > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:43:08 -0700 > > Gary Kline articulated: > >=20 > > >from portupgrade, I just learned this: > > > > > >gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > >`/usr/ports/security/gnupg/work/gnupg-2.0.18' > > >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > > >*** Error code 1 > > > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. > > >*** Error code 1 > > > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. > > >** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > >/tmp/portupgrade20120604-59509-nufufc-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=3Dportupgrade > > >UPGRADE_PORT=3Dgnupg-2.0.17_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=3D2.0.17_1 make > > >** Fix the problem and try again. > > >** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > > > ! security/gnupg (gnupg-2.0.17_1) (linker error) > > >ethic#=20 > > > > > > > > > can anybody onlist figure out WTF is wrong here? > >=20 > > Well, for starters, gnupg is at version 2.0.19 in my ports tree, so I > > am not sure what is wrong with yours. I might suggest the following. > >=20 > > 1) Clean out "/usr/ports/distfiles" > > 2) Update your ports tree > > 3) Run: make clean in the gnupg port > > 4) Attempt to rebuild and install the port. > =09 > no joy. I did another full upgrade. first time in many > months. then spent a couple hours with portmaster (thank > you, Roland:). this as a first upgrade. =20 Make sure you update portmaster first. The latest versions have significant improvements. Also there has recently been a upgrade of libPNG, requiring a rebuild of everything that needs it. > what I want to do is get as current as possible and then=20 > install 7.5. and stay there. 7.5 what? Do you mean Xorg? Please try and be specific. > another question involves=20 > accepting the "3-D" windows with whatever options they might > present.=20 You mean the options dialogs as run by 'make config'? Portmaster will first recurse through the port and all of its dependencies (if any) to handle any port OPTIONS via the 'make config' interface, before going off on the big build.=20 > is there any upgrade utility or flag that will > accept and upgrade things without me having to be here? Yes and no. With the latest portmaster you can use the -y flag to automatically answer "yes" to all questions. But some ports are marked as "interactive", in the sense that they need you to give some input. Or they = are marked as "restricted" in that you might have to go and download the tarball yourself somewhere. These are properties of the ports system and the individual ports. No port build tool can override that. BTW, use the -R flag with portmaster. If a long build fails, it skips alrea= dy updated stuff on the second try. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/NoXMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXPFgCcCD+JIjJJuPS3EJMhiRAd36Pz 4pcAoJGiLIKZ5tOSaufKlrUPn60Y2Lev =IOHw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 06:52:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AD1106566C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB8F8FC0A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q556pxUc004988; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:52:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCDAC8F.5040001@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:51:59 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD21C0.50200@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:52:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:52:07 -0000 On 06/04/12 15:25, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > >>> What part of the Handbook? I would suggest using gpart(8), it makes GPT partitions easy, and nasty old MBR partitions aren't any worse than with fdisk/bsdlabel. >> >> 19.3.2 > > That's the Storage chapter, section "Command Line Utilities". That is yet another section that needs updating. In the meantime, here: I was making some notes as I went along about that. I did decide to switch, thanks. > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > The second half of that covers using gpart(8). I suggest using GPT partitions unless your configuration does not allow them (gmirror, for example). Probably should have read mail sooner... I found the wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table exactly what I needed to make sense of gpart. Once you understand how the dang thing is laid out, the commands make sense. Without that, it's pretty difficult (for me, anyway) to figure out how it knows what it needs to know to get it done. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 07:29:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EABA1065675 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110448FC1A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3618809vbm.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Um1M6uktK+kh4GN1C+oBoATAKsfJepWsmI7U4+eeyWM=; b=c54lHawqctZr4v7WcyLKcxUG4bDRAV++HiiOqfGSrURl3n9yWM4Ouf7yALXQhnC61t Yg5ejz4MInRIHgxZwLHjA9L8ORevC1EgOlk0og1VilWh7O3PIDU0T8N8IpD+NwdiuiEE i60C8s1ZCTNG1XoWDDaCP2vzQc9WfdcY/A4GfZHFrdMj9awSo4oVmO37vgUGXyI1KIqh xVLBuszpYfmzLsfnzLb4Rv9LJQsJZ9vc3rdBlnWh5ajwj3ryhXZVtOrox3nKCNke0xvA X7qgC5dKF89W95KV7iYWCjVumUMuYkdNNvurF4yJzkl5rA8yoxy4e/RcZ9A3XS0l92I3 oOAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.141.209 with SMTP id n17mr14928756vcu.65.1338881369234; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.104 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:29:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCD0E87.1020001@FreeBSD.org> References: <4FCD0E87.1020001@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:29:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: Rada alive To: Matthew Seaman X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl9Gqhw3Of4HzMWzEclG65a7m56IGQO9yTAMMjrw1hD8aUGQk/+L6eDkUzdQSwiXkBb62RY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Dependencies for dns/unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 07:29:30 -0000 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/06/2012 14:47, Rada alive wrote: > > [root@pladaks /usr/ports/dns/unbound]# make all-depends-list > > /usr/ports/devel/gmake > > /usr/ports/textproc/expat2 > > /usr/ports/dns/ldns > > /usr/ports/devel/gettext > > /usr/ports/devel/doxygen > > /usr/ports/devel/libtool > > /usr/ports/converters/libiconv > > /usr/ports/lang/perl5.12 > > /usr/ports/devel/tmake > > /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz > > /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex > > /usr/ports/print/teTeX > > /usr/ports/lang/python27 > > /usr/ports/devel/bison > > /usr/ports/devel/qt4-corelib > > [... etc -- rest of exceeding long list of dependencies trimmed ...] > > Unset the DOCS option in dns/ldns. Almost all of those dependencies are > due to the doxygen support that drags in. > Thank you Matthew! I hoped it would be something simple like this. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 07:50:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFDD1065672 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4F08FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q557ofrc058867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:50:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q557ofrc058867 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q557ofrc058867; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FCDBA49.4040808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:50:33 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rada alive References: <4FCD0E87.1020001@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCD0E87.1020001@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3B48A2639A448E8A95585784" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Dependencies for dns/unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 07:50:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3B48A2639A448E8A95585784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/06/2012 20:37, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/06/2012 14:47, Rada alive wrote: >> [root@pladaks /usr/ports/dns/unbound]# make all-depends-list >> /usr/ports/devel/gmake >> /usr/ports/textproc/expat2 >> /usr/ports/dns/ldns >> /usr/ports/devel/gettext >> /usr/ports/devel/doxygen >> /usr/ports/devel/libtool >> /usr/ports/converters/libiconv >> /usr/ports/lang/perl5.12 >> /usr/ports/devel/tmake >> /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz >> /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex >> /usr/ports/print/teTeX >> /usr/ports/lang/python27 >> /usr/ports/devel/bison >> /usr/ports/devel/qt4-corelib >> [... etc -- rest of exceeding long list of dependencies trimmed ...] >=20 > Unset the DOCS option in dns/ldns. Almost all of those dependencies ar= e > due to the doxygen support that drags in. Actually, this is mixed up with the new OPTIONS framework. One of the changes involved is that the old NOPORTDOCS and NOPORTEXAMPLES variables are now treated as global options DOCS and EXAMPLES respectively. Which makes a lot of sense and is generally a good idea, but causes some confusion when a port has a pre-existing DOCS or EXAMPLES option -- the global DOCS and EXAMPLES are on by default, and this can lead to some ports having significantly enlarged dependency lists. On the other hand, the capability to have one global switch to turn on or off certain options is really interesting. At the moment it is only DOCS, EXAMPLES and NLS but surely there are more to come. X11 perhaps. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig3B48A2639A448E8A95585784 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/NulEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzQNACfcwZxxeiXCBtq9cyEgYf/G0ec JCAAn1CsBxonX3bETsNUtvaYpvl7P6Pt =g0Ar -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3B48A2639A448E8A95585784-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 09:06:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280721065674 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from tensor.gdynia.pl (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5B18FC16 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q558jDmA064734; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:45:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q558jDKm064731; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:45:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:45:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FCDAC8F.5040001@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD21C0.50200@dreamchaser.org> <4FCDAC8F.5040001@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:45:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:06:52 -0000 whats wrong in juz using bsdlabel ? On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/04/12 15:25, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: >> >>>> What part of the Handbook? I would suggest using gpart(8), it makes GPT partitions easy, and nasty old MBR partitions aren't any worse than with fdisk/bsdlabel. >>> >>> 19.3.2 >> >> That's the Storage chapter, section "Command Line Utilities". That is yet another section that needs updating. In the meantime, here: > > I was making some notes as I went along about that. > I did decide to switch, thanks. > >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html >> >> The second half of that covers using gpart(8). I suggest using GPT partitions unless your configuration does not allow them (gmirror, for example). > > Probably should have read mail sooner... > I found the wikipedia article > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table > exactly what I needed to make sense of gpart. > Once you understand how the dang thing is laid out, > the commands make sense. > Without that, it's pretty difficult (for me, anyway) to figure out > how it knows what it needs to know to get it done. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 09:22:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F2C106564A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6B88FC12 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:22:38 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAEvOzU+kD30E/2dsb2JhbAANOBaFOLIEAQEBAwEBAQEgKyAQCwsYCSECAg8CFgEJJg4FAgQBAQEBBRQEh2UQpD6JaYkEixMaBoJaggSBEgOON4EdgyGDNYQujRuBVQg Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 05 Jun 2012 11:21:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4FCDCF98.90903@ulb.ac.be> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:21:28 +0200 From: Julien Cigar Organization: Belgian Biodiversity Platform User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120503 Thunderbird/12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FCCBDF4.1030008@dreamchaser.org> <4FCD21C0.50200@dreamchaser.org> <4FCDAC8F.5040001@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050600090803020100090203" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: bsdlabel geometry params X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:22:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050600090803020100090203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/05/2012 10:45, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > whats wrong in juz using bsdlabel ? > from the 9.0R release notes: 3.2.6 Disk Partition Management Utilities In earlier releases various utilities were available to manage disk partition information. They are deprecated in favor of the gpart(8) utility. Specifically, the fdisk(8) , disklabel(8) bsdlabel(8) , and sunlabel(8) utilities are no longer supported actively though these are still available for backward compatibility. > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 06/04/12 15:25, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> >>>>> What part of the Handbook? I would suggest using gpart(8), it >>>>> makes GPT partitions easy, and nasty old MBR partitions aren't any >>>>> worse than with fdisk/bsdlabel. >>>> >>>> 19.3.2 >>> >>> That's the Storage chapter, section "Command Line Utilities". That >>> is yet another section that needs updating. In the meantime, here: >> >> I was making some notes as I went along about that. >> I did decide to switch, thanks. >> >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html >>> >>> The second half of that covers using gpart(8). I suggest using GPT >>> partitions unless your configuration does not allow them (gmirror, >>> for example). >> >> Probably should have read mail sooner... >> I found the wikipedia article >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table >> exactly what I needed to make sense of gpart. >> Once you understand how the dang thing is laid out, >> the commands make sense. >> Without that, it's pretty difficult (for me, anyway) to figure out >> how it knows what it needs to know to get it done. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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I recently both a VPS that claim to use KVM as a virtualization service, I don't know the details of the real hardware running behind nor what is KVM running on. Anyway I have an issue with clock on my FreeBSD installation that I can't live with. The clock is lagging behind, for example running sleep 30 is really sleeping around 35 seconds not 30. Also seems that NTP is not able to manage with this drift in time. Before posting here I red about similar problems mostly related to VMWare guests, but the solutions suggested are following: set kern.hz=100 or kern.hz=50 (doesn't work for me) set hint.apic.0.disabled=1 (this makes the guest hangs while booting also it discarding the SMP capabilities of the kernel which I assume is not a good idea) set kern.timecounter.hardware TSC (doesn't work for me) Is there any chance I deal with this time drifting issue somehow? If somebody faced such issue and managed it I would be happy to try another possible solution? Alternatively I can switch the provider with other that is using Xen for virtualization, I guess is better, but no guarantee that would not have the same issue. :( Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 15:41:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D99D1065674 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09628FC0C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([12.106.254.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q55Feobw045326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:41:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:40:45 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:41:26 -0000 Given this script: #!/bin/sh foo="" while read line do foo="$foo -e" done echo $foo Say I respond 3 times, I'd expect to see: -e -e -e Instead, I get: -e -e Linux appears to do the right thing here, so this seems like it is a bug ... or am I missing something? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 15:59:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EEB1065670 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A928FC15 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so3325004wib.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:59:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=HjtiE0lmQTpbVny3QR19QVINZHWv/vRRr2f0gZc747w=; b=baVEKGcxOnwM+5ArR0sNtX59K9G5Lzvg73Hg3oqkmFiqDxFO3Y3v77sC/fcnsO4Eo5 baQjZVEdr40ip+lzVBmSaK+U4kcbk4K21Ahb9Y0Fl/CtyMGjYcx7DS8Ar60wLNYnhlF1 OWjmWC9VjqqhZyk25PkqDjOC0y/c70WPdU4kRqTcr16sz0ob3sLzAIbPAz5g4JAxmB1M Fm4equfuivQ+Sz072CWh8X+4xRt28y5RGojfIJ7IFqPfC/yucvi7iFxjVdQ4mpJj8bPT 9SSKEu1Xi3FzHb9PFOdFg6GG1n+Vnr3wX0zyf4p5GFRfKxMH5qJIHQ9qUScx/hxz/X4X 4eIA== Received: by 10.216.213.28 with SMTP id z28mr14480725weo.50.1338911959297; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:59:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.138.216 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:58:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:58:39 +0300 Message-ID: To: Mark Felder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Roster DNS Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:59:21 -0000 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:39:33 -0500, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > So is there any FreeBSD Admin who has been adventurous enough to install >> Roster DNS Management - http://bit.ly/2j3pGj - and successfully deployed >> it? >> I am looking at it now, but I am afraid of using one aspect of it - LDAP, >> which it uses for authentication. >> I'm trying to see if someone did MySQL instead. >> >> > We're always looking for a similar solution but our main hangup is the > inability to link domains. We have customers with hundreds of domains that > are all to be kept identical and you can easily do this with symlinks. I > haven't seen a web-interface solution that can handle this for us. > Hi Mark, What does this "linking" look like? Do you mean like symlinking zone files, so that domainA is exactly a replica of domainB - as in "conjoined"?:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 16:12:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C504E1065693 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1438FC19 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:12:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=u0zIntDGm8iNz3e6fhove0MTV9ZROjtkzFGUx9T2kmM=; b=qMlrjI1x8r2t8Gyzskk75udqzmgIrWy1un6evt4N0/YNM56Y45YAx/JTezPesEC9ccd1UK2Qya4/iMarqR80pedHQAx4SaGQm60j+ODS+InkgTRVJuLoJZig143Y/zc8; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SbwMt-000Czb-5A; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:12:28 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338912741-26372-26371/5/25; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:12:21 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:12:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Odhiambo Washington Subject: Re: Roster DNS Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:12:29 -0000 On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:58:39 -0500, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > What does this "linking" look like? > Do you mean like symlinking zone files, so that domainA is exactly a > replica of domainB - as in "conjoined"?:) precisely -- foo.com foo.net -> foo.com foo.org -> foo.com foobar.net -> foo.com foobar.com -> foo.com foobar.org -> foo.com foo2012.com -> foo.com foo2012.net -> foo.com foo2012.org -> foo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 16:38:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414781065675 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013C68FC0A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q55GZN7U090201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:35:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q55GZMu2035198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:35:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q55GZMPE035197; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:35:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:35:22 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20120605163522.GD16874@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:35:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 172.17.19.78 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Possible /bin/sh Bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:38:39 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 05), Tim Daneliuk said: > Given this script: > #!/bin/sh > > foo="" > while read line > do > foo="$foo -e" > done > echo $foo > > Say I respond 3 times, I'd expect to see: > > -e -e -e > > Instead, I get: > > -e -e > > Linux appears to do the right thing here, so this seems like it > is a bug ... or am I missing something? echo takes a -e flag, so it eats the first one. Bash does the same thing, so any Linux that uses bash as /bin/sh will also. You must be testing on a Linux that uses something else as /bin/sh. Better to use the printf command if you are worried about compatibility. echo [-e | -n] [string ...] Print a space-separated list of the arguments to the standard output and append a newline character. -n Suppress the output of the trailing newline. -e Process C-style backslash escape sequences. The echo command understands the following character escapes: -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 17:00:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF99106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A08FC17 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8197364pbb.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=vUy6v602cc5epQfBhjzs+1wHY5D40wqq7LgaMlY8AGQ=; b=ScfTLHriNjmAdG20NieP2ozVzaGrhva7l7z4yokGR1fPsW1KCA3LtA8/l3IGt1DAqL BPpN3XPQz8zON5p8kDelteO/okPBKyTQ9VTMkhf/IECfUTo0MhKAJ67YKvtmrfpUOqdv /6jL29KIFTan7GCxBS4NbbOrql+WY2ipGN8qWcntxRjCxdjfJ/tnsmccH5iP79IKB1yK if0ZV7Kixq7KwGkRNU23DeeRnuM1U5cTH8qalKliKX9TPjVQLjLGOatnMw8EssFFXcnP JPfn2sYS1safUfDfA11i6cyKhVbUFfcaT22FuFGXVPqJvpkevxD3Ng53QarZC+MiKFw1 5Vtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.219.162 with SMTP id pp2mr49597862pbc.85.1338915598736; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:59:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCE20E7.2000202@mafiainc.org> References: <4FCE20E7.2000202@mafiainc.org> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:59:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Martin Dimitrov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZs+8vzsBGsC3XC1y7e9XMppbZXMVk7Yih84C7bclab6nPt23h7zCKU1LnUOA8MTm1hvpI Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock lagging behind on FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE under KVM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:00:00 -0000 Try machdep.independent_wallclock=1 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Martin Dimitrov wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to FreeBSD, decided to migrate a web server to FreeBSD. I > recently both a VPS that claim to use KVM as a virtualization service, I > don't know the details of the real hardware running behind nor what is > KVM running on. Anyway I have an issue with clock on my FreeBSD > installation that I can't live with. The clock is lagging behind, for > example running sleep 30 is really sleeping around 35 seconds not 30. > Also seems that NTP is not able to manage with this drift in time. > Before posting here I red about similar problems mostly related to > VMWare guests, but the solutions suggested are following: > > set kern.hz=100 or kern.hz=50 (doesn't work for me) > set hint.apic.0.disabled=1 (this makes the guest hangs while booting > also it discarding the SMP capabilities of the kernel which I assume is > not a good idea) > set kern.timecounter.hardware TSC (doesn't work for me) > > Is there any chance I deal with this time drifting issue somehow? If > somebody faced such issue and managed it I would be happy to try another > possible solution? > Alternatively I can switch the provider with other that is using Xen for > virtualization, I guess is better, but no guarantee that would not have > the same issue. :( > > Cheers, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 17:06:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEA91065677 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A1F8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([12.106.254.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q55H6mSe051168 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:06:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FCE3CA2.50106@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:06:42 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> <20120605163522.GD16874@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20120605163522.GD16874@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:06:50 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q55H6mSe051168 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Possible /bin/sh Bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:06:58 -0000 On 06/05/2012 11:35 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jun 05), Tim Daneliuk said: >> Given this script: >> #!/bin/sh >> >> foo="" >> while read line >> do >> foo="$foo -e" >> done >> echo $foo >> >> Say I respond 3 times, I'd expect to see: >> >> -e -e -e >> >> Instead, I get: >> >> -e -e >> >> Linux appears to do the right thing here, so this seems like it >> is a bug ... or am I missing something? > > echo takes a -e flag, so it eats the first one. Bash does the same thing, > so any Linux that uses bash as /bin/sh will also. You must be testing on a > Linux that uses something else as /bin/sh. Better to use the printf command > if you are worried about compatibility. > > echo [-e | -n] [string ...] > Print a space-separated list of the arguments to the standard > output and append a newline character. > > -n Suppress the output of the trailing newline. > > -e Process C-style backslash escape sequences. The echo > command understands the following character escapes: > > Ah, OK, that makes sense, thanks... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 17:32:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AA2106564A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA25B8FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:32:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1338917556; h=From:Subject:Date:To:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=OX+l+IQ023MG1jlt6d9ILJdnzG4=; b=jUPXOHOFVw6iFPZIGu+6RhAx9mRhhNEqQdUjrCSu+ewabN+v0DGDKOKc1g3bX1/6 oUEBwe4qo9NFHcQe4X6CDmyFyCbPb2fDSYANshCNfKyBJH4nYXdxGpb48Itwr5Z7; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=W/a6pGqk c=1 sm=0 a=jqASBmZdCR7DR2qNErNAVQ==:17 a=LUY_rjA3ehQA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=MnkTnmICAAAA:8 a=EOJYFbmdDo7RUffb0xEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VAeyC-Qft3gA:10 a=jqASBmZdCR7DR2qNErNAVQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=rpratt1950@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [74.4.81.87] ([74.4.81.87:62309] helo=tv.weeeble.com) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39797/39798)) with ESMTPA id F4/C0-27851-3B24ECF4; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:32:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:32:34 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: tundra@tundraware.com Message-Id: <20120605133234.8b9e95e4.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> References: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Possible /bin/sh Bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:32:43 -0000 On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:40:45 -0500 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Given this script: > #!/bin/sh > > foo="" > while read line > do > foo="$foo -e" > done > echo $foo > > Say I respond 3 times, I'd expect to see: > > -e -e -e > > Instead, I get: > > -e -e The last line "echo $foo" is what is getting confused. At the end of 3 passes, $foo contains " -e -e -e" so when the last line is executed, it looks like: echo -e -e -e The first -e is probably being interperted by "echo" as a flag ( echo -e ) and then only prints the last two -e. Its easier to see if you execute the script with xtrace: sh -x /path/to/script I'd recommend that you write the last line with quotes: echo "$foo" and I think it'll produce the results you expect. HTH, Randy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 17:37:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D6F106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2985D8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q55Hbx54013730; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:37:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:37:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206051737.q55Hbx54013730@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: tundra@tundraware.com In-Reply-To: <4FCE287D.3090501@tundraware.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible /bin/sh Bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:37:42 -0000 > From: Tim Daneliuk > > Given this script: > #!/bin/sh > > foo="" > while read line > do > foo="$foo -e" > done > echo $foo > > Say I respond 3 times, I'd expect to see: > > -e -e -e > > Instead, I get: > > -e -e > > Linux appears to do the right thing here, so this seems like it > is a bug ... or am I missing something? Yup. there are -multiple-, incompatible, standards for 'echo'. a SYS-V derived echo will behve diferently than UCB based one. varous shell-program 'built-in' implementtions may have yet different behavior. Recommendation -- use 'print' instead of 'echo', it is much more predictble in differnt environments. ALTERNATIVE: replace the last line of the script with: echo -- $foo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 18:19:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34207106566C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EEB8FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so4939252yhg.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:19:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/e9niZlEvYdKtnpPwo+22V/JqV0AJVn666DyHn6EyBI=; b=l0eHho6MjTuLAwrq6SYQ0n8aDOF/IPdS1zQcredA3AvWoJ5mwt+GyMUrPPaQTmlG70 Zr43eCGMCi99K4HPGmVKwHjWbD4y6g4qMKdEtxO9PRXQBX0llxcxxHGvEh6e4RPMBPLV F622AfDCYMJt+24rog29qULh1MOIdNemfxHHxz7tmgTe1sUqQk4wQx8nw/p518H+n94P 1w36EPjAWhNH8kUckUVPhCvW9wxIMgAO+zGR59DIlBKHSbZQuY8xd9Bh9gz+WGeFOd5A DS5ocGfBd5H3nlj3uRvXdnt4K92n8ZZxmB2eFfm4by2mDmKiSVKxZNrpz6gQxu1TlqVC gBfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.5.6 with SMTP id h6mr5362728ani.82.1338920366856; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.123.13 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:19:28 -0000 UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 18:27:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708D01065680 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5F68FC1B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so5428234ghb.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:27:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VRBNnuDnxwxYIVXtyjhIBpP0V4BIHesyA22/qo9bJX8=; b=OzKJCZFSbwkcyiieISEjhb2hbXLDH1g8p3agVqkKWGoBGbM+buQwWz1fYUGb5/bYKP ewLGhkSaF4ybvbvRQfEU7MVA5+/W2Nhm47Bgq2ccmEriEuBNXghxa1aozte1NcmtX4KV Pb8IqWTg2dpCsMFzKfSzUd0iLv51BCrVPPOOeXmtuLgf0en4U0U07LsWqZFoVb2rXAdS nn4dVnlExlQ3FUwd+pUitQLDhq00kl2Txbq2FzEq1TJ2CmrmEkPCBsIsSavGwSDETtFM +b71mWT42144aO4ZI/mtBP0qRNW3vigS09J5TkX/u9TNOQkPwSBRjqXfZPdUDxr8ETUz SOag== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.71 with SMTP id nq7mr3899231igc.12.1338920860329; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.112.4 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:27:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Kurt Buff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:27:41 -0000 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. > Red Hat is the one that is apparently paying for it. I believe that should be unnecessary. It would only be a matter of time before someone breaks the M$ layer of poop that is supposed to prevent folks from booting other OSes other than Window$. They hit the panic button too soon IMHO. There is a thread on Fedora list about this and many people are unsure that Red Hat paying for secure boot was the right thing to do. See the archives for references. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 18:37:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1692106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A228FC08 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839523CC0F; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:37:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q55IbHR0003289; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:37:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:37:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kurt Buff Message-Id: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:37:20 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ I may reply with another link: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. It won't need much time until hackers find a way to find a way around booting restrictions. Maybe this is an additional step needed to make non-"Windows" boot on then-current hardware. A free market won't allow a situation come up that requires the competitor to obtain a "permission" by its concurrent to make his product work. It would also show a "security feature" being an aspect of "defective by design" regarding computer hardware and its manufacturers. Compiling from source? You don't even get that far! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 18:46:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E563D1065673 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin.dimitrov@mafiainc.org) Received: from mail0.mafiainc.org (mafiainc.org [89.22.97.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2BF8FC12 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (unknown [46.238.20.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail0.mafiainc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 388D42AE2F6; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:46:38 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4FCE540D.8060807@mafiainc.org> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:46:37 +0300 From: Martin Dimitrov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sierchio References: <4FCE20E7.2000202@mafiainc.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock lagging behind on FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE under KVM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:46:40 -0000 Thanks, but it's not working: # sysctl machdep.independent_wallclock=1 sysctl: unknown oid 'machdep.independent_wallclock' I grep under /usr/src/sys for independent_wallclock and it appeared only in ./i386/xen/clock.c, my architecture is amd64 if it matters. On 06/05/2012 07:59 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Try > > machdep.independent_wallclock=1 > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Martin Dimitrov > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am new to FreeBSD, decided to migrate a web server to FreeBSD. I >> recently both a VPS that claim to use KVM as a virtualization service, I >> don't know the details of the real hardware running behind nor what is >> KVM running on. Anyway I have an issue with clock on my FreeBSD >> installation that I can't live with. The clock is lagging behind, for >> example running sleep 30 is really sleeping around 35 seconds not 30. >> Also seems that NTP is not able to manage with this drift in time. >> Before posting here I red about similar problems mostly related to >> VMWare guests, but the solutions suggested are following: >> >> set kern.hz=100 or kern.hz=50 (doesn't work for me) >> set hint.apic.0.disabled=1 (this makes the guest hangs while booting >> also it discarding the SMP capabilities of the kernel which I assume is >> not a good idea) >> set kern.timecounter.hardware TSC (doesn't work for me) >> >> Is there any chance I deal with this time drifting issue somehow? If >> somebody faced such issue and managed it I would be happy to try another >> possible solution? >> Alternatively I can switch the provider with other that is using Xen for >> virtualization, I guess is better, but no guarantee that would not have >> the same issue. :( >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 19:10:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E047E1065672 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0CE8FC1A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4280DE643B; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:11:17 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=H0WtqJVe/0/g KIKZp/RW4uh3oUE=; b=Cs7fwclAMExktQJb6B3trqsOucX0LfbE+3Xyz9khr1rj UJMbTcLcKtMISLekV0WKu3v7HPrtr1LxNMlXbKXpC328ZXbzBremUI7UtxlLe6Ub n3Hwo1VYBzP5JfFL1DB7bQfpPogWs9hWM061beINi2DTdFmDFs8bxQg7wWmCn8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=YLDn9G /ZMyR68Rs+L9dzem27i5Yph4JMn+6jUE3PKtRpxnD5jElLriZztZ1aDQuWKtd9DF OyPFiL98HhX55XeD3yLnic0Ln43rtzoVgEozL7KP/82JTiR4ulZpFjNwmufBVRBY zB3MGh2wGqQ6+U4463OnWc6Xe9slrPxQZfou0= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B956E643A; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:11:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FCE59AA.1090601@cran.org.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:10:34 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:10:37 -0000 On 05/06/2012 19:27, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I believe that should be unnecessary. It would only be a matter of > time before someone breaks the M$ layer of poop that is supposed to > prevent folks from booting other OSes other than Window$. They hit > the panic button too soon IMHO. Press Delete/F1 during boot, select Advanced -> Trusted Computing. Change TCG/TPM Support to "No". But according to Cory Doctorow, that's far too finicky and highly technical (http://boingboing.net/2012/05/31/lockdown-freeopen-os-maker-p.html)! By the way it's not Microsoft's stuff people would have to break, but UEFI. I think secure boot actually makes sense, but preventing users disabling it or installing their own keys on ARM platforms is totally wrong. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 19:13:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510451065673 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96F18FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so6355604bkv.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=jQf8oKeM2IjhChBfwSP+wjc1MiTzO1i49mHD8srwbOw=; b=WMGgL0vOIu8/A38PLyiB0oHHK6UVXn4V0K04vdglE581dJb0CmZmps1Sy2p3IKE6Kg 2p4vPawBEeHSi9BSlsweD9JgwvliC1xe25xZseJJIuLGPAKM5MTNxE80OQkumIpNWgrp Kz8/vh9lQsIK6Qkdk2Q61PWv3O1gmKylTL9AebOJCjCGs8YqC/APUqwyZiODrPwKtrHZ zvfxOp9SRV/elQPEr8t6jMcipA0v49QeTh28u+jlUTanpsC286+NBZ/CmXdojqd+wV6a Djx9gcujOBX/5JcsFkdESpR6OUFojZ3Q8NBxc2LCKNXojLrv7S5iAur9ga8MW1TzCOYD W3/g== Received: by 10.204.128.200 with SMTP id l8mr10416438bks.94.1338923581897; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.elkotek ([78.165.49.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4sm3184702bkv.15.2012.06.05.12.12.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:12:50 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?G=F6k=FEin?= Akdeniz To: Kurt Buff Message-Id: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_22_12_50_+0300_CXkkD2aE.O4FF3XF" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:13:03 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_22_12_50_+0300_CXkkD2aE.O4FF3XF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel > binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ >=20 That's restriction is only for ARM devices which have a label that says "Desgined for Windows8". In other words those devices can not boot another os except Windows 8 due to secure boot option enabled by default. The short and the long of it Microsoft is copying Apple on tablets with ARM. --=20 G=F6k=FEin Akdeniz --Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_22_12_50_+0300_CXkkD2aE.O4FF3XF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPzlo5AAoJEC4yIan56TgwAQEP/3tbWT4ozEbcHn7Naz8P3PYA 7VTwggyCLk5SmqBEUPbzSxOB9Ee3WCC2uBxIZwfYQwCT+lL2rbcw6o8Sk0y/52+j VjxKRQX0l1yo+kItcVILZoWnVkCOcTN1Zw43YVptkoYWjxeBvjUcmQwux88tagiY rq9OFSrWME6HcltAGX/1g4tJ4X0J9Dqv9FSm+t64UJrHwrIcGKOdbYbWy/SmSZW8 FXtXW8N3ziLSPeu4JYz5gtzOFdfunw2dI4ZrGynW0SDPI7KeGSpYIFaACT3KzzTr UAEZjHPb18BHcSeO59pwJ++onsxR3pFrQena1Y2u8s2A1Ra51MeGg49rnUg81ijK GeuW8YAx/zCmUa6GRaPRj0+k0+CrQta1OYR8M1hEaVWESsbkO3YT33rLotaCuqqt WkHC9HchQjXQjpH3gv+vl0Yf01Bko43nARF9S/sISRRAa7XLyJVZ+8VcNg70Hl5s xDdTDVPE93xCHXc+40g7HzVaDN44HUn1wPDPmaVMOqhNkqbzeRfF5nukkbTKd4Ew fJEfcQra5prFZIqgcc4V6O+v48A0xxhTZLj0K8zb9RQDWWpfMSkZ2z0gMtGw/dfK hATa8/BtfVnYxmzew53ysWYx2nrEAkyz2k9tYd8ssivNYU5h9LF7FYqbGu7WzzvX 34HwIg5a1PiUPgl8Opqx =kE4z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_22_12_50_+0300_CXkkD2aE.O4FF3XF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 19:33:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFDE106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from webmail-7.mail.msu.edu (webmail-7.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B768FC25 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:33:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=msu.edu; s=mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=9ELmq99+n/7xOmIymem9cML3szgd9qJE0F4VBqzGQ88=; b=XXUIBAlbFA0V3YyMZGfkFZI2mJ+uzC00qxeriKlhEeamnmQ/+rrrvY3MZv1dtDtyPKSUwapNmypCDAzEj0LYNyzuxdKyA0W2APUJCiev+yrwFUVkoqsCFzzb7dwEEF1pe7wXPw9N2hEdBwDqEoSxe1YQ2cMSXYOgHkZRVHyFRos=; Received: from localhost.msu.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=msu.edu) by webmail-7.mail.msu.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72 #1) id 1SbzBf-0002zC-TP; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:13:03 -0400 Received: from z2.cl.msu.edu (z2.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.44]) by mail.msu.edu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:13:03 -0400 Message-ID: <20120605151303.11596msta89hqw5b@mail.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:13:03 -0400 From: jerrymc@msu.edu To: Kurt Buff References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.6) X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Plaintext Version of Message X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:33:49 -0000 Quoting Kurt Buff : > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. > I don't see how this MS scam is even at all legal. It is clearly restraint of trade and probably violates some other related laws too. ////jerry > Kurt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 19:45:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE2C106566C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C978FC0A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630B8E643B; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:46:07 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=Pg71OZb/gZoK +dV/O/PQABTiOno=; b=YEWvu4Y+Uq1xrDoNNPZ2b4QasTRqPKr95S8hvqeCLbla JSTPLLFjpFZJL57lvB04zkLyukQ0nuBB5fWYyMYia7CYGr+owEOpNG9Sf6FzMvIR qSfUVCxN2G2Z4o1ir0tAmtEw1dd43cidnAMwxGhtPoDWJlE6ew8LV9vecSLG/yk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=YZ1mXk Z82alYNNH2ifXHNBhU9KuQm6rVtL1Av5bW7wSDyCG5EyNFynKhFPNh82bAmEE5Cc J/MdbsiDdwWnyLYTng41xXFpp166zgYLBH6A1QVE9nKbRDb/0V9JjfCngz1+GC80 DQ6HbveCdjWMBbU3IyfEQ3u86OPMbCsXua0Ws= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E7BCE643A; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:46:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:45:24 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:45:33 -0000 On 05/06/2012 20:12, G=F6k=FEin Akdeniz wrote: > That's restriction is only for ARM devices which have a label that says > "Desgined for Windows8". In other words those devices can not boot > another os except Windows 8 due to secure boot option enabled by > default. Not quite. As I understand it, on ARM secure boot will be enabled by=20 default and users won't have any option of disabling it or adding their=20 own keys. On x86 secure boot will be enabled by default too, but with=20 the option of disabling it or adding custom keys. --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 20:00:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50461106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75E08FC16 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so6406515bkv.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:00:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=QlDhhTEgBDzqoDKq6BMtQgjQ/dujpUi4z9csZ9IInmE=; b=i6yME/kg9sZA6vgZS/s2EQfBUL65LAkLHviljjF65ct2P35pAlnay6Ta8RWAt0AnxG Tr+li9dVgBhPXquvS1d2/t4TE+5xO1e25i49RZnPwQaWJHYYdyhS0hlgIweEyJnUv1lQ wumjEHb4h7o17A/q9elueaDpDKgnH403gZtc06L5BdRh0DFVyDDnwwSjtLmPynoaw/2W wQU/u1wpivl8lTRY9pkYoycXH5FhJ12BH5exEd61fF6YHKIcqS2XqAOcgUdFEDy4el9K h15KMQdQYz0q/bAEguO/qpuVAGXCXGpLPG0QFcL9AYEJnTglriz1pgdEGerjuv5Dh+Wc lMmA== Received: by 10.205.124.13 with SMTP id gm13mr10147045bkc.79.1338926435847; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.elkotek ([78.165.49.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iq16sm3322811bkc.6.2012.06.05.13.00.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:00:25 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?G=F6k=FEin?= Akdeniz To: Bruce Cran Message-Id: <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_23_00_25_+0300_U2KY_TtcDvv/ynzV" Cc: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:00:38 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_23_00_25_+0300_U2KY_TtcDvv/ynzV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > Not quite. As I understand it, on ARM secure boot will be enabled by=20 > default and users won't have any option of disabling it or adding > their own keys.=20 That is correct. ARM based tablets which have Windows 8 preinstalled will only boot Windows 8. There is no chance of disabling secure boot on ARM tables with Windows 8. > On x86 secure boot will be enabled by default too, > but with the option of disabling it or adding custom keys. >=20 Micrsoft confirms that there will be no obligations for secure boot option on x86 and x86_64 platforms. It is up to vendor and users to decide to enable secure boot or not. Besides users may add/delete/manage own keys with secure boot options. For the time being only ARM platform is restricted. --=20 G=F6k=FEin Akdeniz --Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_23_00_25_+0300_U2KY_TtcDvv/ynzV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPzmVeAAoJEC4yIan56TgwaR0P/3xmCL5L2Ym+hiReDVLP8Q+Z zRaHmeT3UvhU10BkWnuCLItrfAbdRk2vZApdFJ0I3IRt8qhYEMgYhpp1KFFvhlih QMNfBmI2AtG7xRYCancdv1TaEbcopdDibvGU0dcYpl3KqVlcoAeLqRvcv0sJcF/7 P3HFICH1UJE5EU5uwoXDsMrhJyx5klEURZIgsV4Q53lrOIC4vno6zlPfBe3hcVnX g//tqGODHbNkdC9g6SjtlXqeE+bmQFZMxhX+eLd5NUP9cRyjhyT+QgqOMA5zWr8N CIdIQBrBNT4HWyrt7DwRGj3z7lubd6mS7yrXjUWcxEwUPy24N4FAtc1XHz8gMqRs 2YvFqxAnfrUnY97Icql6lqxBzenyE5eKB6fxRCqSeOwh9MPFhIK90nH5hAsP66qL l3nCFXK0Igck1Dc3bdQ2kBE8EgAhvSK81y//oF0F/5Bs0OY7O2+I9YQoJPZSBRor SMVCUFJblY4/bsAdoGfwp+sBcv6vAz+DoiBI3Wy31QzGSPrRoZuMsLs3zAPtCncY WCyc1410swwPrji7UK/4J0564eco+XGhKkaMpxghRz7A7rue2Oz3KP0G5K53cB31 H2QKiw8ZcpXbngVhle1FlVNGmlrc5w0exZjQLPzDBcM+WMXBTNS/4XMi30rkiWH0 ut++9kApc8oa+cAdJa1+ =3xHF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__5_Jun_2012_23_00_25_+0300_U2KY_TtcDvv/ynzV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 20:18:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BC41065674 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.barnabas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5F68FC08 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8435850pbb.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:18:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; bh=m6y+Zl5OpdvqeqBjnPOfNSodJ1QVmnTEZvbztn6V/AU=; b=qWrF2CXXS43aypR2u8XL7DWCVzKOPObp56UuGkKUAGMf4zOXK4b7d6CWE8j4DGhgQn CWg7r2luYvGPLKyW6Z+uQwpcakQ7O4ZEhin2uHDedGAVNf/IXYFocP+SGOCDEf+tuCDR cgL+7UP102Q2RIOsPujZRGXjZPwzyLlmRlGDKE5zxbOzAuodnrHXrVKXFILBVr7wOvY4 Fozc4RP9ZiOtaIZbT3D4Z6bXjJpVphl8XpivnLGm3djYNm5J5YmnEo8+qugKw8ty2f/y wB2EV7xxEtIxTgIyP98txOrCI6kCTQB/TLeWWTiex7Mq44HnrP9ShxqfdguI3bCzMWcM N34g== Received: by 10.68.138.161 with SMTP id qr1mr13395475pbb.37.1338927517155; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip68-98-76-182.ph.ph.cox.net. [68.98.76.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ph1sm3444169pbb.45.2012.06.05.13.18.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:19:00 -0700 From: Colin Barnabas To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:18:37 -0000 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:19:26AM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. > > Kurt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" History show us that _everything_ will eventually run *nix. Take a look at the Sony PS3 debacle. After Sony yanked support for installing other OS's, the community ripped apart their hypervisor in a matter of months. If these boot keys do gain any momentum, sooner than later the community with poke holes in the system. -- Colin Barnabas ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Colin Barnabas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 20:22:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA1A106567C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444A88FC15 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763D05E318; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:21:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.622, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Fwv74UI3w4Uv; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:21:34 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E745E2E2; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:21:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCE6AB5.4020303@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:23:17 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <20120528061118.39893340.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FCC811B.7070106@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:22:43 -0000 2012-06-04 14:07, Antonio Olivares skrev: >> I now have a similar problem. The icons in the program menu is not >> displayed, only a white icon with a red cross. >> >> Uninstalled the complete xfce4 and reinstalled it. >> >> I also nuked the .config directory but icons are gone even so. >> >> I have the 96 DPI setting as well. >> >> Did you do anything else to retrieve the icons? >> >> Thanks >> > > Only the ones in the bottom panel :) [right click then select the > icons from the ones given] On the menu, they are still missing :( I > don't worry about these yet as I hope that some update(s) later on > will bring them back :) > > I updated the png update as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING, but no > improvement in icons :( > > Regards, > > > Antonio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Now I have made a total re-installation of all the ports on the machine with the icons missing. I only had a couple of hundred ports so I took a chance that it would solve this issue. Unfortunately it didn't. On my laptop I have more than 700 ports and there I have no problems with missing icons after the png- update. Maybe we are missing a port on the machines that have no icons? I'll do as you have chosen to do, wait and see. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 20:26:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68901065670 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out8.libero.it (cp-out8.libero.it [212.52.84.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16BD8FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:26:26 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B020C.4FCE6B6C.0027,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.153.204) by cp-out8.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4FB2CA0D03979DE8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:26:18 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q55KQGY9066733 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:26:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4FCE6B68.2090403@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:26:16 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120509 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:26:28 -0000 Hello. Box is a 9.0/amd64. This is the first dump I get and I never saw anything similar. Anyone can shed some light on this? This is a non critical box, so if you are interested in some test, I might do it. bye & Thanks av. > # less core.txt.10 > xxxxx.yyyyyyyy.zz dumped core - see /var/crash/vmcore.10 > > Tue Jun 5 10:43:43 CEST 2012 > > FreeBSD xxxxx.yyyyyyyy.zz 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #4: Wed Apr 11 20:53:14 CEST 2012 root@xxxxx.yyyyyyyy.it:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XXXXX amd64 > > panic: page fault > > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"... > > Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0x8 > fault code = supervisor read data, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xffffffff80605345 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xffffff8000282860 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80002828a0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 0 (em0 taskq) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 0 > KDB: stack backtrace: > #0 0xffffffff8047ad8e at kdb_backtrace+0x5e > #1 0xffffffff804472a7 at panic+0x187 > #2 0xffffffff8063d110 at trap_fatal+0x290 > #3 0xffffffff8063d459 at trap_pfault+0x1f9 > #4 0xffffffff8063d91f at trap+0x3df > #5 0xffffffff80627eff at calltrap+0x8 > #6 0xffffffff8060566e at zone_fetch_slab+0x3e > #7 0xffffffff80606ade at uma_zalloc_arg+0x32e > #8 0xffffffff8043609b at mb_zinit_pack+0x1b > #9 0xffffffff80606c15 at uma_zalloc_arg+0x465 > #10 0xffffffff80323a14 at lem_get_buf+0x44 > #11 0xffffffff80326eeb at lem_handle_rxtx+0x33b > #12 0xffffffff80487095 at taskqueue_run_locked+0x85 > #13 0xffffffff80488016 at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x46 > #14 0xffffffff8041d35f at fork_exit+0x11f > #15 0xffffffff8062842e at fork_trampoline+0xe > Uptime: 45d18h57m59s > Dumping 263 out of 1013 MB:..7%..13%..25%..31%..43%..55%..61%..73%..86%..92% > > Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/splash_bmp.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/splash_bmp.ko.symbols...done. > done. > Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/splash_bmp.ko > Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko.symbols...done. > done. > Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko > Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/geom_stripe.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/geom_stripe.ko.symbols...done. > done. > Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/geom_stripe.ko > Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/iscsi_initiator.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/iscsi_initiator.ko.symbols...done. > done. > Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/iscsi_initiator.ko > #0 doadump (textdump=Variable "textdump" is not available. > ) at pcpu.h:224 > 224 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. > in pcpu.h > (kgdb) #0 doadump (textdump=Variable "textdump" is not available. > ) at pcpu.h:224 > #1 0xffffffff80446de5 in kern_reboot (howto=260) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:442 > #2 0xffffffff80447291 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available. > ) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:607 > #3 0xffffffff8063d110 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc, eva=Variable "eva" is not available. > ) > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:819 > #4 0xffffffff8063d459 in trap_pfault (frame=0xffffff80002827b0, usermode=0) > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:735 > #5 0xffffffff8063d91f in trap (frame=0xffffff80002827b0) > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:474 > #6 0xffffffff80627eff in calltrap () > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:228 > #7 0xffffffff80605345 in keg_fetch_slab (keg=0xfffffe003ff2e000, > zone=0xfffffe003ff30780, flags=1) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2144 > #8 0xffffffff8060566e in zone_fetch_slab (zone=0xfffffe003ff30780, > keg=0xfffffe003ff2e000, flags=1) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2233 > #9 0xffffffff80606ade in uma_zalloc_arg (zone=0xfffffe003ff30780, > udata=0xfffffe00237b0600, flags=1) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2403 > #10 0xffffffff8043609b in mb_zinit_pack (mem=0xfffffe00237b0600, size=Variable "size" is not available. > ) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mbuf.c:568 > #11 0xffffffff80606c15 in uma_zalloc_arg (zone=0xfffffe003ff30a00, > udata=0xffffff8000282a90, flags=1) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2429 > #12 0xffffffff80323a14 in lem_get_buf (adapter=0xffffff8000677000, i=183) > at mbuf.h:546 > #13 0xffffffff80326eeb in lem_handle_rxtx (context=Variable "context" is not available. > ) > at /usr/src/sys/dev/e1000/if_lem.c:3470 > #14 0xffffffff80487095 in taskqueue_run_locked (queue=0xfffffe00013bc500) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_taskqueue.c:308 > #15 0xffffffff80488016 in taskqueue_thread_loop (arg=Variable "arg" is not available. > ) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_taskqueue.c:497 > #16 0xffffffff8041d35f in fork_exit ( > callout=0xffffffff80487fd0 , > arg=0xffffff800067b838, frame=0xffffff8000282c50) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:995 > #17 0xffffffff8062842e in fork_trampoline () > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:602 > #18 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #19 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #20 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #21 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #22 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #23 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #24 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #25 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #26 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #27 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #28 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #29 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #30 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #31 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #32 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #33 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #34 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #35 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #36 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #37 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #38 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #39 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #40 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #41 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #42 0xffffffff809c9df0 in sleepq_chains () > #43 0xfffffe000136c888 in ?? () > #44 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > #45 0xfffffe000136c460 in ?? () > #46 0xffffff8000282b00 in ?? () > #47 0xffffff8000282aa8 in ?? () > #48 0xfffffe00015c2000 in ?? () > #49 0xffffffff8046d952 in sched_switch (td=0xffffffff80487fd0, > newtd=0xffffff800067b838, flags=Variable "flags" is not available. > ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_ule.c:1848 > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > (kgdb) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ps -axl > > UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS MWCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND > 0 0 0 0 -52 0 0 0 - DLs ?? 361:25.56 [kerne > 0 1 0 0 20 0 6280 0 wait DLs ?? 0:00.25 [init] > 0 2 0 0 -16 0 0 0 idle DL ?? 0:00.00 [aic_r > 0 3 0 0 -16 0 0 0 idle DL ?? 0:00.00 [aic_r > 0 4 0 0 -16 0 0 0 waitin DL ?? 0:00.00 [sctp_ > 0 5 0 0 -16 0 0 0 ccb_sc DL ?? 0:00.00 [xpt_t > 0 6 0 0 -16 0 0 0 - RL ?? 11:53.04 [paged > 0 7 0 0 -16 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.00 [vmdae > 0 8 0 0 155 0 0 0 pgzero DL ?? 0:00.03 [pagez > 0 9 0 0 -16 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:16.23 [bufda > 0 10 0 0 -16 0 0 0 audit_ DL ?? 0:00.00 [audit > 0 11 0 0 155 0 0 0 - RL ?? 127578:37.78 [idle] > 0 12 0 0 -76 0 0 0 - WL ?? 82:55.37 [intr] > 0 13 0 0 -8 0 0 0 - DL ?? 31:41.42 [geom] > 0 14 0 0 -16 0 0 0 - DL ?? 21:50.56 [yarro > 0 15 0 0 16 0 0 0 syncer DL ?? 51:54.61 [synce > 0 16 0 0 -16 0 0 0 vlruwt DL ?? 0:28.19 [vnlru > 0 17 0 0 -16 0 0 0 sdflus DL ?? 2:30.96 [softd > 0 18 0 0 -8 0 0 0 m:w1 DL ?? 2:51.11 [g_mir > 0 519 1 0 20 0 10372 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.03 [devd] > 0 855 1 0 1 0 12184 0 - Rs ?? 2:36.02 [syslo > 0 1028 1 0 20 0 22332 0 select Ds ?? 1:07.27 [ntpd] > 0 1073 1 0 20 0 23848 0 nanslp D ?? 0:00.70 [smart > 0 1111 1 0 20 0 46876 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.91 [sshd] > 0 1118 1 0 20 0 20384 0 select Ds ?? 0:36.94 [sendm > 25 1122 1 0 20 0 20384 0 pause Ds ?? 0:00.76 [sendm > 0 1128 1 0 20 0 14260 0 nanslp Ds ?? 0:09.05 [cron] > 0 1139 1 0 52 0 10056 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.00 [ports > 0 1141 1 0 52 0 10056 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.00 [ports > 0 1148 1 0 52 0 46876 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.00 [sshd] > 0 1161 1 0 52 0 14364 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.00 [mouse > 0 1217 1 0 20 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1218 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1219 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1220 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1221 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1222 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1223 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 1224 1 0 52 0 12184 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.00 [getty > 0 3187 1 0 25 0 10052 0 select Ds ?? 0:00.11 [dhcli > 65 3244 1 0 20 0 10052 0 select Ds ?? 0:21.11 [dhcli > 0 58063 1 0 20 0 69288 0 uwait Ds ?? 0:42.91 [bacul > 0 61834 1 0 20 0 23052 0 select Ds ?? 0:06.24 [scree > 0 61835 61834 0 20 0 17668 0 ttyin Ds+ ?? 0:00.02 [csh] > 0 67113 1 0 20 0 42932 0 - R ?? 126:21.13 [snmpd > 910 81125 1 0 34 0 83704 0 - Rs ?? 836:35.28 [bacul > 0 85019 0 0 -16 0 0 0 isc_pr DL ?? 0:00.27 [isc_o > 0 85021 1 0 20 0 16420 0 nanslp Ds ?? 0:00.34 [iscon > 0 85910 0 0 -16 0 0 0 sbwait DL ?? 0:00.02 [isc_i > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vmstat -s > > 1143404748 cpu context switches > 874247482 device interrupts > 366314691 software interrupts > 632349495 traps > 489639036 system calls > 63 kernel threads created > 1620772 fork() calls > 830163 vfork() calls > 0 rfork() calls > 14081 swap pager pageins > 27965 swap pager pages paged in > 78978 swap pager pageouts > 1071620 swap pager pages paged out > 73288 vnode pager pageins > 261168 vnode pager pages paged in > 0 vnode pager pageouts > 0 vnode pager pages paged out > 153510 page daemon wakeups > 1038132624 pages examined by the page daemon > 68938 pages reactivated > 90784698 copy-on-write faults > 6677 copy-on-write optimized faults > 364010810 zero fill pages zeroed > 760779 zero fill pages prezeroed > 51870 intransit blocking page faults > 516862043 total VM faults taken > 0 pages affected by kernel thread creation > 1113139654 pages affected by fork() > 377396947 pages affected by vfork() > 0 pages affected by rfork() > 0 pages cached > 555520081 pages freed > 0 pages freed by daemon > 0 pages freed by exiting processes > 17104 pages active > 164634 pages inactive > 11504 pages in VM cache > 56565 pages wired down > 1652 pages free > 4096 bytes per page > 408426934 total name lookups > cache hits (82% pos + 6% neg) system 0% per-directory > deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0% > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vmstat -m > > Type InUse MemUse HighUse Requests Size(s) > module 211 27K - 211 128 > CAM dev queue 11 2K - 11 128 > mtx_pool 2 16K - 2 > CAM queue 47 2K - 1024 16,32,64,128,256,512,2048 > kbdmux 6 18K - 6 16,512,1024,2048 > subproc 507 425K - 2451458 512,4096 > proc 2 16K - 2 > session 29 4K - 31349 128 > pgrp 29 4K - 31949 128 > cred 48 8K - 16900852 64,256 > uidinfo 5 3K - 22777 128,2048 > plimit 18 5K - 782456 256 > LED 2 1K - 2 16,128 > sysctltmp 0 0K - 1567371 16,32,64,128,2048 > sysctloid 2668 131K - 3218 16,32,64,128 > sysctl 0 0K - 4140969 16,32,64 > tidhash 1 16K - 1 > callout 1 512K - 1 > umtx 1056 132K - 1068 128 > p1003.1b 1 1K - 1 16 > SWAP 2 549K - 2 64 > bus-sc 46 102K - 1205 16,32,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096 > bus 604 52K - 3340 16,32,64,128,256,1024 > devstat 14 29K - 14 32,4096 > eventhandler 74 6K - 74 64,128 > DEVFS1 85 43K - 238 512 > DEVFS3 105 27K - 313 256 > kobj 147 588K - 189 4096 > Per-cpu 1 1K - 1 32 > rman 159 19K - 354 16,32,128 > DEVFS 12 1K - 19 16,32,128 > sbuf 0 0K - 41857 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096 > DEVFSP 1 1K - 4 64 > pfs_nodes 21 6K - 21 256 > stack 0 0K - 2 256 > taskqueue 17 2K - 17 16,32,128 > Unitno 16 1K - 3891454 32,64 > iov 0 0K - 5995338 16,32,64,128,256,512,2048 > select 469 59K - 475 128 > ioctlops 0 0K - 8136491 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048 > msg 4 30K - 4 2048,4096 > sem 4 106K - 4 2048,4096 > shm 1 20K - 1 > tty 19 19K - 114 1024,2048 > pts 1 1K - 94 256 > accf 1 1K - 1 64 > mbuf_tag 0 0K - 263 32 > shmfd 1 8K - 1 > pcb 41 158K - 31278 16,32,128,1024,2048,4096 > soname 4 1K - 1572105 16,32,128 > acl 0 0K - 51501 4096 > biobuf 0 0K - 13515 2048 > vfscache 1 1024K - 1 > cl_savebuf 0 0K - 624506 64,128 > vfs_hash 1 512K - 1 > GEOM 100 27K - 2220 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024 > vnodes 3 1K - 60 64,256 > CAM SIM 11 3K - 11 256 > vnodemarker 0 0K - 1021009 512 > mount 61 3K - 270 16,32,64,128,256 > BPF 9 10K - 24 16,128,256,512,4096 > ether_multi 7 1K - 14 16,64 > ifaddr 26 8K - 35 32,512,4096 > ifnet 5 9K - 5 128,2048 > clone 2 8K - 2 4096 > arpcom 3 1K - 3 16 > lltable 13 5K - 1062 256,512 > scsi_da 0 0K - 10 16 > CAM periph 15 4K - 119 16,32,64,128,256 > CAM XPT 210 259K - 14291 16,32,64,128,256,1024,2048 > acpidev 26 2K - 26 64 > SCSI SES 2 4K - 2 2048 > routetbl 142 67K - 2660461 32,64,128,256,512 > igmp 4 1K - 4 256 > acpiintr 1 1K - 1 64 > isadev 6 1K - 6 128 > in_multi 2 1K - 3 256 > IpFw/IpAcct 75 12K - 465 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048 > sctp_iter 0 0K - 3 256 > sctp_ifn 2 1K - 4 128 > sctp_ifa 2 1K - 4 128 > sctp_vrf 1 1K - 1 64 > sctp_a_it 0 0K - 3 16 > hostcache 1 28K - 1 > syncache 1 96K - 1 > audit_evclass 179 6K - 218 32 > savedino 0 0K - 190624 256 > freework 1 1K - 477098 32,128 > newdirblk 0 0K - 13874 64 > dirrem 0 0K - 507741 128 > mkdir 0 0K - 27028 128 > diradd 0 0K - 509767 128 > freefile 0 0K - 371135 64 > freeblks 0 0K - 333883 128 > freefrag 0 0K - 2557595 128 > indirdep 27 4K - 232898 128 > newblk 47505 11940K - 242848108 256 > bmsafemap 11 11K - 288577 256 > inodedep 3 513K - 661961 512 > pagedep 1 64K - 52003 256 > ufs_dirhash 133 67K - 127370 16,32,64,128,256,512 > ufs_mount 13 455K - 28 128,256,512,2048,4096 > vm_pgdata 2 129K - 2 128 > UMAHash 3 6K - 8 512,1024,2048,4096 > entropy 1024 64K - 1024 64 > acpica 1793 190K - 39496 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048 > UART 3 2K - 3 16,512,1024 > pci_link 8 1K - 8 16,128 > cdev 8 2K - 8 256 > acpitask 1 2K - 1 2048 > memdesc 1 4K - 1 4096 > sigio 1 1K - 1 64 > filedesc 51 27K - 4007374 16,32,512,1024,2048,4096 > atkbddev 2 1K - 2 64 > kenv 111 13K - 124 16,32,64,128 > kqueue 0 0K - 7554 256,512,2048 > proc-args 29 3K - 2946846 16,32,64,128,256 > hhook 2 1K - 2 128 > ithread 81 14K - 82 32,128,256 > apmdev 1 1K - 1 128 > KTRACE 100 13K - 100 128 > linker 101 64K - 114 16,32,64,128,256,512,2048,4096 > lockf 20 3K - 63140 64,128 > loginclass 2 1K - 29312 64 > io_apic 3 3K - 3 512,2048 > nexusdev 3 1K - 3 16 > temp 18 9K - 7277258 16,32,64,128,256,1024,2048,4096 > devbuf 2969 4085K - 5066 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096 > acpisem 18 3K - 18 128 > mirror_data 3 1K - 859727 64,128,512 > stripe_data 2 1K - 2 16,64 > iSCtmp 0 0K - 10 4096 > iSCbuf 0 0K - 54 16,64,128,512 > iSCSI 2 2K - 23 256,1024 > iSC 3 1K - 212 16,64,128 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vmstat -z > > ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQ FAIL SLEEP > > UMA Kegs: 208, 0, 87, 15, 87, 0, 0 > UMA Zones: 640, 0, 87, 3, 87, 0, 0 > UMA Slabs: 568, 0, 1425, 290, 193519, 0, 0 > UMA RCntSlabs: 568, 0, 405, 169, 8115092, 0, 0 > UMA Hash: 256, 0, 2, 13, 5, 0, 0 > 16 Bucket: 152, 0, 16, 84, 125, 0, 0 > 32 Bucket: 280, 0, 23, 47, 222, 0, 0 > 64 Bucket: 536, 0, 17, 11, 747, 58, 0 > 128 Bucket: 1048, 0, 126, 57, 85158,256606, 0 > VM OBJECT: 216, 0, 14054, 48352,45193919, 0, 0 > MAP: 232, 0, 7, 25, 7, 0, 0 > KMAP ENTRY: 120, 56110, 32, 402, 207141, 0, 0 > MAP ENTRY: 120, 0, 816, 889,78045551, 0, 0 > fakepg: 120, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > mt_zone: 4112, 0, 227, 4, 227, 0, 0 > 16: 16, 0, 2373, 819, 5916165, 0, 0 > 32: 32, 0, 1590, 430, 9419865, 0, 0 > 64: 64, 0, 2370, 878,21027760, 0, 0 > 128: 128, 0, 4335, 1755, 6890068, 0, 0 > 256: 256, 0, 48940, 245,260769371, 0, 0 > 512: 512, 0, 938, 511, 5025595, 0, 0 > 1024: 1024, 0, 46, 146, 1893615, 0, 0 > 2048: 2048, 0, 166, 352, 75811, 0, 0 > 4096: 4096, 0, 474, 181, 3316198, 0, 0 > Files: 80, 0, 115, 425,53199307, 0, 0 > TURNSTILE: 136, 0, 529, 31, 535, 0, 0 > umtx pi: 96, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > MAC labels: 40, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > PROC: 1160, 0, 48, 408, 2450998, 0, 0 > THREAD: 1112, 0, 488, 40, 1454, 0, 0 > SLEEPQUEUE: 80, 0, 529, 51, 535, 0, 0 > VMSPACE: 392, 0, 29, 411, 2450933, 0, 0 > cpuset: 72, 0, 2, 98, 2, 0, 0 > audit_record: 960, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > mbuf_packet: 256, 0, 265, 63,2884635351, 0, 0 > mbuf: 256, 0, 11, 149,1719785184, 0, 0 > mbuf_cluster: 2048, 25600, 406,4294967295,2451215798, 0, 0 > mbuf_jumbo_page: 4096, 12800, 0, 151, 6593953, 0, 0 > mbuf_jumbo_9k: 9216, 19200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > mbuf_jumbo_16k: 16384, 12800, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > mbuf_ext_refcnt: 4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > g_bio: 232, 0, 3, 285,266752068, 0, 0 > ttyinq: 160, 0, 195, 357, 36795, 0, 0 > ttyoutq: 256, 0, 104, 286, 19537, 0, 0 > ata_request: 328, 0, 0, 180,79559221, 0, 0 > ata_composite: 336, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > VNODE: 480, 0, 21130, 9262,36312868, 0, 0 > VNODEPOLL: 112, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > NAMEI: 1024, 0, 0, 308,137452196, 0, 0 > S VFS Cache: 108, 0, 22652, 17872,42728420, 0, 0 > L VFS Cache: 328, 0, 73, 467, 449943, 0, 0 > DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 0, 100, 202016, 0, 0 > Mountpoints: 768, 0, 5, 10, 6, 0, 0 > pipe: 728, 0, 2, 343, 972720, 0, 0 > ksiginfo: 112, 0, 447, 312, 316143, 0, 0 > itimer: 344, 0, 1, 21, 2, 0, 0 > KNOTE: 128, 0, 0, 174, 7557, 0, 0 > socket: 680, 25602, 47, 385, 5359077, 0, 0 > unpcb: 240, 25600, 11, 133, 42039, 0, 0 > ipq: 56, 819, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > udp_inpcb: 392, 25600, 14, 386, 5297955, 0, 0 > udpcb: 16, 25704, 14, 490, 5297955, 0, 0 > tcp_inpcb: 392, 25600, 19, 141, 5527, 0, 0 > tcpcb: 976, 25600, 19, 93, 5527, 0, 0 > tcptw: 72, 5150, 0, 200, 789, 0, 0 > syncache: 152, 15375, 0, 75, 2837, 0, 0 > hostcache: 136, 15372, 1, 111, 556, 0, 0 > tcpreass: 40, 1680, 0, 252, 7211, 0, 0 > sackhole: 32, 0, 0, 303, 6856, 0, 0 > sctp_ep: 1360, 25602, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_asoc: 2272, 40000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_laddr: 48, 80064, 0, 216, 5, 0, 0 > sctp_raddr: 688, 80000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_chunk: 136, 400008, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_readq: 104, 400032, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_stream_msg_out: 112, 400026, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_asconf: 40, 400008, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > sctp_asconf_ack: 48, 400032, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > ripcb: 392, 25600, 1, 39, 13320, 0, 0 > rtentry: 200, 0, 6, 51, 17, 0, 0 > IPFW dynamic rule: 120, 0, 234, 138, 587484, 0, 0 > divcb: 392, 25600, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > g_stripe_zone: 131072, 3200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > selfd: 56, 0, 895, 428,349696649, 0, 0 > SWAPMETA: 288, 116519, 395, 33509, 180053, 0, 0 > FFS inode: 168, 0, 21086, 12134,36310993, 0, 0 > FFS1 dinode: 128, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 > FFS2 dinode: 256, 0, 21086, 10159,36310973, 0, 0 > pdu: 296, 16393, 0, 52, 1930, 0, 0 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vmstat -i > > interrupt total rate > irq1: atkbd0 13 0 > irq16: em0 sym0 779805347 6780916 > irq25: atapci1 75478433 656334 > irq26: ahd0 34 0 > irq27: ahd1 18963655 164901 > cpu0:timer 593604871 5161781 > cpu1:timer 389341247 3385576 > Total 1857193600 16149509 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > pstat -T > > 115/12328 files > 11M/4095M swap space > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > pstat -s > > Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity > /dev/mirror/gm0s1b 8388352 22664 8365688 0% > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > iostat > > iostat: kvm_read(_tk_nin): invalid address (0x0) > iostat: disabling TTY statistics > da0 da1 ada0 cpu > KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s us ni sy in id > 10.65 81583 848.45 10.65 81582 848.26 48.54 342741 16245.65 2 0 1 0 97 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ipcs -a > > Message Queues: > T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP CBYTES QNUM QBYTES LSPID LRPID STIME RTIME CTIME > > Shared Memory: > T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NATTCH SEGSZ CPID LPID ATIME DTIME CTIME > > Semaphores: > T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NSEMS OTIME CTIME > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ipcs -T > > msginfo: > msgmax: 16384 (max characters in a message) > msgmni: 40 (# of message queues) > msgmnb: 2048 (max characters in a message queue) > msgtql: 40 (max # of messages in system) > msgssz: 8 (size of a message segment) > msgseg: 2048 (# of message segments in system) > > shminfo: > shmmax: 536870912 (max shared memory segment size) > shmmin: 1 (min shared memory segment size) > shmmni: 192 (max number of shared memory identifiers) > shmseg: 128 (max shared memory segments per process) > shmall: 131072 (max amount of shared memory in pages) > > seminfo: > semmni: 50 (# of semaphore identifiers) > semmns: 340 (# of semaphores in system) > semmnu: 150 (# of undo structures in system) > semmsl: 340 (max # of semaphores per id) > semopm: 100 (max # of operations per semop call) > semume: 50 (max # of undo entries per process) > semusz: 632 (size in bytes of undo structure) > semvmx: 32767 (semaphore maximum value) > semaem: 16384 (adjust on exit max value) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > nfsstat > > nfsstat: new client/server not loaded > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > netstat -s > > tcp: > 1685259572 packets sent > 16202263 data packets (18832193803 bytes) > 8606 data packets (11467311 bytes) retransmitted > 163 data packets unnecessarily retransmitted > 0 resends initiated by MTU discovery > 1341864850 ack-only packets (4133267 delayed) > 0 URG only packets > 0 window probe packets > 327181909 window update packets > 2286 control packets > 2845038821 packets received > 9115963 acks (for 18830665568 bytes) > 68475 duplicate acks > 0 acks for unsent data > 2835358089 packets (3939827981647 bytes) received in-sequence > 11807 completely duplicate packets (1049962 bytes) > 3 old duplicate packets > 13 packets with some dup. data (5991 bytes duped) > 7211 out-of-order packets (9696317 bytes) > 0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window > 0 window probes > 543905 window update packets > 83 packets received after close > 0 discarded for bad checksums > 0 discarded for bad header offset fields > 0 discarded because packet too short > 0 discarded due to memory problems > 815 connection requests > 2837 connection accepts > 0 bad connection attempts > 0 listen queue overflows > 111 ignored RSTs in the windows > 3381 connections established (including accepts) > 5509 connections closed (including 1927 drops) > 1490 connections updated cached RTT on close > 1501 connections updated cached RTT variance on close > 50 connections updated cached ssthresh on close > 202 embryonic connections dropped > 9114580 segments updated rtt (of 5180317 attempts) > 572 retransmit timeouts > 23 connections dropped by rexmit timeout > 0 persist timeouts > 0 connections dropped by persist timeout > 0 Connections (fin_wait_2) dropped because of timeout > 0 keepalive timeouts > 0 keepalive probes sent > 0 connections dropped by keepalive > 3425264 correct ACK header predictions > 2835289143 correct data packet header predictions > 2837 syncache entries added > 0 retransmitted > 0 dupsyn > 0 dropped > 2837 completed > 0 bucket overflow > 0 cache overflow > 0 reset > 0 stale > 0 aborted > 0 badack > 0 unreach > 0 zone failures > 2837 cookies sent > 0 cookies received > 556 hostcache entries added > 0 bucket overflow > 3873 SACK recovery episodes > 8152 segment rexmits in SACK recovery episodes > 10946242 byte rexmits in SACK recovery episodes > 65215 SACK options (SACK blocks) received > 6642 SACK options (SACK blocks) sent > 0 SACK scoreboard overflow > 0 packets with ECN CE bit set > 0 packets with ECN ECT(0) bit set > 0 packets with ECN ECT(1) bit set > 0 successful ECN handshakes > 0 times ECN reduced the congestion window > udp: > 1696674 datagrams received > 0 with incomplete header > 0 with bad data length field > 0 with bad checksum > 19 with no checksum > 197 dropped due to no socket > 1010603 broadcast/multicast datagrams undelivered > 0 dropped due to full socket buffers > 0 not for hashed pcb > 685874 delivered > 685917 datagrams output > 0 times multicast source filter matched > ip: > 2850923613 total packets received > 0 bad header checksums > 0 with size smaller than minimum > 0 with data size < data length > 0 with ip length > max ip packet size > 0 with header length < data size > 0 with data length < header length > 0 with bad options > 0 with incorrect version number > 0 fragments received > 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space) > 0 fragments dropped after timeout > 0 packets reassembled ok > 2846768266 packets for this host > 25 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol > 0 packets forwarded (0 packets fast forwarded) > 0 packets not forwardable > 0 packets received for unknown multicast group > 0 redirects sent > 1685977835 packets sent from this host > 6342 packets sent with fabricated ip header > 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc. > 1 output packet discarded due to no route > 0 output datagrams fragmented > 0 fragments created > 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented > 0 tunneling packets that can't find gif > 0 datagrams with bad address in header > icmp: > 197 calls to icmp_error > 0 errors not generated in response to an icmp message > Output histogram: > echo reply: 32770 > destination unreachable: 197 > 0 messages with bad code fields > 0 messages less than the minimum length > 0 messages with bad checksum > 0 messages with bad length > 0 multicast echo requests ignored > 0 multicast timestamp requests ignored > Input histogram: > echo reply: 1 > destination unreachable: 25 > echo: 32770 > 32770 message responses generated > 0 invalid return addresses > 0 no return routes > igmp: > 0 messages received > 0 messages received with too few bytes > 0 messages received with wrong TTL > 0 messages received with bad checksum > 0 V1/V2 membership queries received > 0 V3 membership queries received > 0 membership queries received with invalid field(s) > 0 general queries received > 0 group queries received > 0 group-source queries received > 0 group-source queries dropped > 0 membership reports received > 0 membership reports received with invalid field(s) > 0 membership reports received for groups to which we belong > 0 V3 reports received without Router Alert > 0 membership reports sent > arp: > 736 ARP requests sent > 12024 ARP replies sent > 11385841 ARP requests received > 735 ARP replies received > 11386576 ARP packets received > 3 total packets dropped due to no ARP entry > 1036 ARP entrys timed out > 0 Duplicate IPs seen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > netstat -m > > 276/212/488 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) > 343/4294967358/4294967701/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 265/63 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) > 0/151/151/12800 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/19200 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/12800 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 755K/8589935373K/8589936128K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > netstat -id > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs Coll Drop > em0 1500 00:14:85:20:25:14 2864113591 2510545 0 1685972031 0 0 0 > em0 1500 192.168.101.0 xxxxx 2845753655 - - 1685959230 - - - > xl0* 1500 00:50:da:77:5f:79 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > ipfw0 65536 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > lo0 16384 41224 0 0 41224 0 0 0 > lo0 16384 your-net localhost 4080 - - 41224 - - - > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > netstat -anr > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 192.168.101.10 UGS 0 416726 em0 > 10.1.2.0/24 192.168.101.4 UGS 0 0 em0 > 127.0.0.1 link#4 UH 0 4080 lo0 > 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.101.4 UGS 0 0 em0 > 192.168.101.0/24 link#1 U 0 1685544595 em0 > 192.168.101.5 link#1 UHS 0 33982 lo0 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > netstat -anA > > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Tcpcb Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > fffffe00308d6000 tcp4 10136 0 192.168.101.5.9103 192.168.101.1.5611 ESTABLISHED > fffffe00308d6b70 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.9103 192.168.101.1.5816 ESTABLISHED > fffffe001ef513d0 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.9103 192.168.101.4.6273 ESTABLISHED > fffffe001ef51000 tcp4 0 298 192.168.101.5.9103 192.168.101.1.5826 ESTABLISHED > fffffe001f5297a0 tcp4 0 0 *.9103 *.* LISTEN > fffffe000ef8b7a0 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.9102 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0018356000 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.3361 192.168.101.1.3260 ESTABLISHED > fffffe0001c0fb70 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.6211 192.168.101.1.3260 LAST_ACK > fffffe0011f64000 tcp4 0 0 *.199 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001c0e3d0 tcp4 0 0 *.19999 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001c0e7a0 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.1999 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001c0f000 tcp4 0 0 *.213 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001c0f3d0 tcp4 0 0 *.194 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001b2e000 tcp4 0 0 *.177 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001b2db70 tcp4 0 0 *.23 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001b2d7a0 tcp4 0 0 *.21 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001b2d000 tcp4 0 0 *.20 *.* LISTEN > fffffe00019837a0 tcp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.25 *.* LISTEN > fffffe0001b2d3d0 tcp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.22 *.* LISTEN > fffffe00253cb498 udp4 0 0 *.161 *.* > fffffe00018b5620 udp4 0 0 *.213 *.* > fffffe00018e2ab8 udp4 0 0 *.194 *.* > fffffe00018b5c40 udp4 0 0 *.177 *.* > fffffe00018b5dc8 udp4 0 0 *.143 *.* > fffffe000196e000 udp4 0 0 *.110 *.* > fffffe00018e2dc8 udp4 0 0 *.25 *.* > fffffe000196e188 udp4 0 0 *.23 *.* > fffffe000196e310 udp4 0 0 *.21 *.* > fffffe00018b57a8 udp4 0 0 *.20 *.* > fffffe00018e2930 udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.123 *.* > fffffe00018e27a8 udp4 0 0 192.168.101.5.123 *.* > fffffe00018b5188 udp4 0 0 *.123 *.* > fffffe00018e2620 udp4 0 0 *.514 *.* > Active UNIX domain sockets > Address Type Recv-Q Send-Q Inode Conn Refs Nextref Addr > fffffe00108a75a0 stream 0 0 0 fffffe000180c0f0 0 0 > fffffe000180c0f0 stream 0 0 0 fffffe00108a75a0 0 0 > fffffe000180d000 stream 0 0 fffffe00263dab40 0 0 0 /var/agentx/master > fffffe000180ce10 stream 0 0 fffffe000189f5a0 0 0 0 /var/run/devd.pipe > fffffe000180c690 dgram 0 0 0 fffffe000180d780 0 fffffe0001894000 > fffffe0001894000 dgram 0 0 0 fffffe000180d780 0 fffffe000180d5a0 > fffffe000180d690 dgram 0 0 0 fffffe000180d870 0 0 > fffffe000180d5a0 dgram 0 0 0 fffffe000180d780 0 fffffe000180c2d0 > fffffe000180c2d0 dgram 0 0 0 fffffe000180d780 0 0 > fffffe000180d780 dgram 0 0 fffffe00019a9960 0 fffffe000180c690 0 /var/run/logpriv > fffffe000180d870 dgram 0 0 fffffe00019a9b40 0 fffffe000180d690 0 /var/run/log > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > netstat -aL > > Current listen queue sizes (qlen/incqlen/maxqlen) > Proto Listen Local Address > tcp4 0/0/50 *.bacula-sd > tcp4 0/0/50 xxxxx.bacula-fd > tcp4 0/0/128 *.smux > tcp4 0/0/128 *.19999 > tcp4 0/0/128 xxxxx.19999 > tcp4 0/0/5 *.ipx > tcp4 0/0/5 *.irc > tcp4 0/0/5 *.xdmcp > tcp4 0/0/5 *.telnet > tcp4 0/0/5 *.ftp > tcp4 0/0/5 *.ftp-data > tcp4 0/0/10 localhost.smtp > tcp4 0/0/128 xxxxx.ssh > unix 0/0/5 /var/agentx/master > unix 0/0/4 /var/run/devd.pipe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > fstat > > USER CMD PID FD MOUNT INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W > root csh 61835 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root csh 61835 wd /usr 282624 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root csh 61835 text / 32846 -r-xr-xr-x 368920 r > root csh 61835 ctty /dev 83 crw--w---- pts/1 rw > root csh 61835 15 /dev 83 crw--w---- pts/1 rw > root csh 61835 16 /dev 83 crw--w---- pts/1 rw > root csh 61835 17 /dev 83 crw--w---- pts/1 rw > root csh 61835 18 /dev 83 crw--w---- pts/1 rw > root csh 61835 19 /dev 83 crw--w---- pts/1 rw > root screen 61834 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root screen 61834 wd / 16387 drwxr-xr-x 512 r > root screen 61834 text /usr 1554657 -rwsr-xr-x 334368 r > root screen 61834 0 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > root screen 61834 1 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null w > root screen 61834 2 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null w > root screen 61834 3 / 16389 prw------- 0 r > root screen 61834 5 /var 2402310 -rw-r--r-- 197 r > root screen 61834 6* pseudo-terminal master pts/1 rw > bacula bacula-sd 81125 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 text /usr 1558974 -rwxr-xr-x 372390 r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 0 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 1 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 2 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 3 /var 2402317 -rw-r----- 6 r > bacula bacula-sd 81125 4* internet stream tcp fffffe001f5297a0 > bacula bacula-sd 81125 5* internet stream tcp fffffe00308d6b70 > bacula bacula-sd 81125 6* internet stream tcp fffffe001ef51000 > bacula bacula-sd 81125 7* internet stream tcp fffffe001ef513d0 > bacula bacula-sd 81125 8* internet stream tcp fffffe00308d6000 > bacula bacula-sd 81125 9 /usr/local/local/backups 65380454 -rwx------ 233007984575 rw > bacula bacula-sd 81125 10 /usr/local/local/backups 221695041 -rw-r----- 238572529031 rw > root bacula-fd 58063 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root bacula-fd 58063 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root bacula-fd 58063 text /usr 1556247 -rwxr-xr-x 194840 r > root bacula-fd 58063 0 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > root bacula-fd 58063 1 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > root bacula-fd 58063 2 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null r > root bacula-fd 58063 3* internet stream tcp fffffe000ef8b7a0 > root isc_in 0 85910 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root isc_in 0 85910 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root iscontrol 85021 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root iscontrol 85021 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root iscontrol 85021 text / 32927 -r-xr-xr-x 34296 r > root iscontrol 85021 0 - - bad - > root iscontrol 85021 1 - - bad - > root iscontrol 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/dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null rw > root devd 519 1 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null rw > root devd 519 2 /dev 16 crw-rw-rw- null rw > root devd 519 3 /dev 5 crw------- devctl r > root devd 519 4* local stream fffffe000180ce10 > root devd 519 5 /var 2402319 -rw------- 3 w > root init 1 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root init 1 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root init 1 text / 32772 -r-xr-xr-x 774152 r > root kernel 0 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > root kernel 0 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 1024 r > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > dmesg > > P 192.168.101.1:63808 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63808 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: Accounting cleared. > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58794 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:65323 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.4:53946 192.168.101.5:25 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63969 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50750 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: Accounting cleared. > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53215 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:53574 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56029 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:56039 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 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Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:60627 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: Accounting cleared. > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54801 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54801 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54801 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54801 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54801 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Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: Accounting cleared. > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:63619 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:49792 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:49792 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:49792 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:49792 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:49792 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:49792 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192.168.101.1:58131 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58131 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:58131 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:50947 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: Accounting cleared. > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.101.1:54556 192.168.101.5:636 in via em0 > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0x8 > fault code = supervisor read data, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xffffffff80605345 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xffffff8000282860 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80002828a0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 0 (em0 taskq) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 0 > KDB: stack backtrace: > #0 0xffffffff8047ad8e at kdb_backtrace+0x5e > #1 0xffffffff804472a7 at panic+0x187 > #2 0xffffffff8063d110 at trap_fatal+0x290 > #3 0xffffffff8063d459 at trap_pfault+0x1f9 > #4 0xffffffff8063d91f at trap+0x3df > #5 0xffffffff80627eff at calltrap+0x8 > #6 0xffffffff8060566e at zone_fetch_slab+0x3e > #7 0xffffffff80606ade at uma_zalloc_arg+0x32e > #8 0xffffffff8043609b at mb_zinit_pack+0x1b > #9 0xffffffff80606c15 at uma_zalloc_arg+0x465 > #10 0xffffffff80323a14 at lem_get_buf+0x44 > #11 0xffffffff80326eeb at lem_handle_rxtx+0x33b > #12 0xffffffff80487095 at taskqueue_run_locked+0x85 > #13 0xffffffff80488016 at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x46 > #14 0xffffffff8041d35f at fork_exit+0x11f > #15 0xffffffff8062842e at fork_trampoline+0xe > Uptime: 45d18h57m59s > Dumping 263 out of 1013 MB:..7%..13%..25%..31%..43%..55%..61%..73%..86%..92% > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > kernel config > > options CONFIG_AUTOGENERATED > ident XXXXX > machine amd64 > cpu HAMMER > makeoptions DEBUG=-g > options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP > options IPDIVERT > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL > options USB_DEBUG > options SC_PIXEL_MODE > options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT > options ATA_STATIC_ID > options ATA_CAM > options SMP > options KDB_TRACE > options KDB > options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE > options MAC > options AUDIT > options HWPMC_HOOKS > options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV > options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 > options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING > options SYSVSEM > options SYSVMSG > options SYSVSHM > options STACK > options KTRACE > options SCSI_DELAY=5000 > options GEOM_LABEL > options GEOM_PART_GPT > options PSEUDOFS > options PROCFS > options CD9660 > options UFS_DIRHASH > options UFS_ACL > options SOFTUPDATES > options FFS > options SCTP > options INET > options PREEMPTION > options SCHED_ULE > options NEW_PCIB > options GEOM_PART_MBR > options GEOM_PART_EBR_COMPAT > options GEOM_PART_EBR > options GEOM_PART_BSD > device isa > device mem > device io > device uart_ns8250 > device cpufreq > device acpi > device pci > device ahci > device ata > device ahd > device sym > device scbus > device ch > device da > device pass > device ses > device mfi > device atkbdc > device atkbd > device psm > device kbdmux > device vga > device splash > device sc > device uart > device ppc > device ppbus > device lpt > device em > device miibus > device xl > device loop > device random > device ether > device tun > device pty > device md > device firmware > device bpf > device ohci > device ehci > device usb > device uhid > device ukbd > device ums > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ddb capture buffer > > ddb: ddb_capture: kvm_nlist From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 21:06:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0942A106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CCC8FC18 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q55L6f8e075834; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:06:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120605 #8133913, check: 20120605 clean Cc: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:06:55 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: >> UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries >> http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > I may reply with another link: > http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html > I have a pretty basic question that probably displays some ignorance... Does the loader need to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything, or just things MS has approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel run anything, or just things MS has approved? If RH has a signed kernel, do they have to sign all the userland programs that run under that kernel? Can users sign programs compiled from source? If MS only has to sign the first link in the chain, then the $99 certificate is not really a problem except for the pure of heart. If MS or someone else has to sign all the way down to the userland binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure boot in CMOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't tell from the discussions mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it will destroy FreeBSD, or Linux, but I would be interested anyway. Daniel Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 21:20:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229791065674 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FA98FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so5271959ggn.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JYQovKMqXI2Pr0KLPInC1gSdku7C/064ab15lUkgdVo=; b=d+HxEbOgBO70NtKWnxxdCTOxHwThFz276kt9LamZzzOQrn0SiFwmIHPkE6pXKjdNNV u8vznSLnQEXr4OIqZGFwv4y2IRwDwW8MaKWQArZ74Ld31t/Dub6XXbOVvi7Zx9f0Ro2O LcFZkURnaKuUhoDd3qxUN/akVhB8LtyCHB+qY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=JYQovKMqXI2Pr0KLPInC1gSdku7C/064ab15lUkgdVo=; b=ak54fACdTS4ElHJo/LAHAz0ggX71jy7jySgsqqR71HLZy7blOuY8Wsnw5jnmQ8HGp8 JuMA52mw2M0gWQ6YzjiYg9IsV1mh6vFEUslHKU9VgcvF3Vi52dw3IvUgs+bUTpyE25HH xNIh2maSG0mj9BIRoYindTpAJdog/z/CK7LeVgwb4KqoCQB9cWVMCGsMXHiRIXSCIGVg LgHnDdZ0n+bfsr5Z6KxiMT6PhACAfWClf4ngEllP7nHHEIh2UNp0IarvFrVdnri6+NqB hPtpSKTa8oI0bZm6FroV0YD1WZGNVaG4/tmsVijBs59HDaZFsD6xue3Pqq6YbFeYp0Av bUhw== Received: by 10.236.120.7 with SMTP id o7mr13098841yhh.55.1338931249819; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. 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Perhaps, but *nix will not run everything. >Take a look at the Sony PS3 debacle. After Sony yanked support for >installing other OS's, the community ripped apart their >hypervisor in a matter of months. If these boot keys do gain any >momentum, sooner than later the community with poke holes in the >system. Which, depending on how the end user or his flunky "poke holes" in the system, may allow vendors to disallow warranty claims. The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do not use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before its user base is even effected. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:10:59 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Daniel Feenberg articulated: >On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: >>> UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel >>> binaries >>> http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ >> >> I may reply with another link: >> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html > >I have a pretty basic question that probably displays some ignorance... > >Does the loader need to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything, >or just things MS has approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel >run anything, or just things MS has approved? If RH has a signed >kernel, do they have to sign all the userland programs that run under >that kernel? Can users sign programs compiled from source? > >If MS only has to sign the first link in the chain, then the $99 >certificate is not really a problem except for the pure of heart. If >MS or someone else has to sign all the way down to the userland >binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure boot in >CMOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't tell from the >discussions mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it will destroy >FreeBSD, or Linux, but I would be interested anyway. I thought this URL also shown above, answered that question. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:12:12 -0000 I have a fairly simple ipfw ruleset, which looks like: 100 allow tcp from any to any established 110 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,8,11 120 deny icmp from any to any 130 allow ip from any to any via lo0 200 allow udp from me to any 53 210 allow udp from any 53 to me 220 allow udp from any to me 33433-33499 230 allow tcp from any to 82.197.184.219 22,80,443 setup 65000 deny log ip from any to me 65001 deny log ip from any to me6 What I am wondering is, am I blocking all ipv6 traffic by not explicitly allowing ipv6 in (for the established rule 100, icmp rule 110, and the entire block of 200-230) ? Or, since that is all tcp/udp/icmp, it doesn't matter, and I am properly allowing in ipv6 traffic, but ONLY for the tcp/udp ports I specify, and then blocking the rest ? Basically: how is my ruleset treating ipv6 traffic (other than the fact that, at the end of the set, I deny all ipv6 that has gotten to that point) thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 22:34:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845CC106564A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A43B8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 61A3FE8021B; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:34:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20120605223427.GC23645@thought.org> References: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> <20120604182457.301b5d74@scorpio> <20120605045311.GB6634@thought.org> <20120605060435.GB21247@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120605060435.GB21247@slackbox.erewhon.net> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: how do I fix this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:34:33 -0000 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:04:35AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:04:35 +0200 > From: Roland Smith > Subject: Re: how do I fix this? > To: Gary Kline > Cc: FreeBSD > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:53:11PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > no joy. I did another full upgrade. first time in many > > months. then spent a couple hours with portmaster (thank > > you, Roland:). this as a first upgrade. > > Make sure you update portmaster first. The latest versions have significant > improvements. Also there has recently been a upgrade of libPNG, requiring a > rebuild of everything that needs it. pretty sure that I did exactly that. > > > what I want to do is get as current as possible and then > > install 7.5. and stay there. > > 7.5 what? Do you mean Xorg? Please try and be specific. FreeBSD-7.5. pretty sure I saw something about 7.4 being upgraded to 7.5. I've been at FBSD-7.3 for a long ti me. I dont remember how many times I have upgraded this release, but it has been solid. > > > another question involves > > accepting the "3-D" windows with whatever options they might > > present. > > You mean the options dialogs as run by 'make config'? exactly. > Portmaster will first > recurse through the port and all of its dependencies (if any) to handle any > port OPTIONS via the 'make config' interface, before going off on the big > build. one thing ive been doing is de-selection most of the options.. the box is my server. we [freebsders] have lost the desktop 'market' .... > > > is there any upgrade utility or flag that will > > accept and upgrade things without me having to be here? > > Yes and no. With the latest portmaster you can use the -y flag to > automatically answer "yes" to all questions. But some ports are marked as > "interactive", in the sense that they need you to give some input. Or they are > marked as "restricted" in that you might have to go and download the tarball > yourself somewhere. These are properties of the ports system and the > individual ports. No port build tool can override that. > > BTW, use the -R flag with portmaster. If a long build fails, it skips already > updated stuff on the second try. super; I'll add -yR to the argv list. tx again, gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 22:20:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DED3106564A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.svalland@bredband.net) Received: from smtprelay-b22.telenor.se (smtprelay-b22.telenor.se [195.54.99.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99698FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-b22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2A7EBE0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:20:02 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQ4AMeEzk9T4+F5PGdsb2JhbABFgkWxfBkBAQEBNzSCHwgEHAUpMAUGBwtQFAwKFQEEHogElh6hF4stgmmDFgONPZo2gV0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,720,1330902000"; d="scan'208,217";a="134048530" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO Thor) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2012 00:20:02 +0200 From: "Geir Svalland" To: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:20:11 +0200 Message-ID: <001d01cd4369$5ff8f270$1fead750$@svalland@bredband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1DaV+QTtN8jFWHSGilyLq8M1DNHQ== Content-Language: sv X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:52:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Curiousity ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:20:04 -0000 Hello friends ( old ) I've moved over ( tried other, but not so further paths ) No, not all , but my butter and bread : my gateway Also servers as my mail and DNS among others >From FreeBSD to OpenBSD Fckg gays, you want so much, but do we want it ? All this going from bsd to clang and what ever ? Get a clear step by step howto, and don't't fck belive all others are whizzards ? Hasse Hansson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 22:55:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BC51065672 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FDD8FC0A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q55Mtf35005277; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120605 #8136335, check: 20120605 clean Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:55:45 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT) > Daniel Feenberg articulated: > >> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: >>>> UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel >>>> binaries >>>> http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ >>> >>> I may reply with another link: >>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html >> >> I have a pretty basic question that probably displays some ignorance... >> >> Does the loader need to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything, >> or just things MS has approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel >> run anything, or just things MS has approved? If RH has a signed >> kernel, do they have to sign all the userland programs that run under >> that kernel? Can users sign programs compiled from source? >> >> If MS only has to sign the first link in the chain, then the $99 >> certificate is not really a problem except for the pure of heart. If >> MS or someone else has to sign all the way down to the userland >> binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure boot in >> CMOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't tell from the >> discussions mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it will destroy >> FreeBSD, or Linux, but I would be interested anyway. > > I thought this URL also shown > above, answered that question. It says "once paid you can sign as many binaries as you want" but I don't know if that means "as many different binaries" or "as many copies of the same binary". Later it says they will write a new bootloader that MS will sign and "adding support for verifying that the kernel it's about to boot is signed with a trusted key" but I don't know if that kernel is signed by MS or RH, or if MS gets to approve it. Finally it says "we'll be sanitising the kernel command line to avoid certain bits of functionality that would permit an attacker to cause even a signed kernel to launch arbitrary code" but does "arbitrary code" refer to something I would want to do as a sys-admin? dan feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 23:02:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6A91065670 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F378F8FC12 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so3761794wib.1 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9diKiG6pk9cFeafAMsem9NgsmK4RkFNsZsyJioD5+Vw=; b=I+EAtRK877fmge7zNtU0pLROUgrj1VvZPQxeezO5voMpNa451Kj+YzhvTOFJJAc4PK kMbgbCXUP7LksYx62k47NaG9AHEgrtTcHpLmp6ZtbF90/fi4BjbLZP1ioLwADOwD8bHO S1crE7BvtxhMaz9yFoTbVmtdjOcOmp1IE8OTt50r3jmovlNBy1OFQyC8FOuDDkh8lnn3 zqgNQ1a9N5v/LZgZLK1NO1PmrBDOA6Tv/HqSQ3OwTsXvUamK3M08vY+5Pq+IckZLOahY fTSjmUZLfFFfboNQldNLGZn8G1QhFNd/8GEPUD2enr+EPZOQ745jFuNgOkXtD99oW48J AHLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.139.19 with SMTP id b19mr859471wej.4.1338937338858; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.39 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:02:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: /usr/bin/find - binary operands howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:02:20 -0000 A single find already had the needed selection and execution ops. So I was trying it first, before writing an external parser, etc. It's still not clear to me how find is compiling the arguments internally, but using -vv on the utils helped a lot. After adding -false after all the -exec's, it now works as desired up against my array of inodes. I also worked in a pre-change, select, ls. The arbitrary format of gfind is interesting. It can maybe be approximated in find with -exec ls someargs {} \+. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 23:14:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1C7106566C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BB98FC12 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sc2xc-0005od-LB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:14:48 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:14:48 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:14:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 162 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:14:52 -0000 Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to work. I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail. This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated. I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X. Here is my xorg.conf in its entirety: ################################## Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "XFree86 Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Clone" "off" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "ddc" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "XFree86 Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Clone" "off" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "ddc" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Screen 0 Driver "radeonhd" VendorName "Radeon Video Driver" Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Option "DRI" "true" BusID "PCI:1:5:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1366x768" EndSubSection EndSection ################################## and here are the relevant Xorg.0.log messages: ################################## (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) ((WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... ################################## Can anyone assist with this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 23:24:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1A4106566C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369A68FC14 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q55NO5jG034312; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:24:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter Hurry References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:24:13 -0000 2012-06-06 01:14, Walter Hurry skrev: > Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to > FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to > work. > > I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail. > > This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated. > > I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X. > > Here is my xorg.conf in its entirety: > > ################################## > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "XFree86 Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "Clone" "off" > EndSection > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" Set this to off. > EndSection > > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "ddc" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "gb" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > EndSection > > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "XFree86 Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "Clone" "off" > EndSection > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "ddc" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "gb" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > EndSection > > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Screen 0 > Driver "radeonhd" > VendorName "Radeon Video Driver" > Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" > Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" > Option "DRI" "true" > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > EndSection > > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection > ################################## > > and here are the relevant Xorg.0.log messages: > > ################################## > (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 > (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > ((WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or > 'vmmouse' will be disabled. > (WW) Disabling Mouse0 > (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... > ################################## > > Can anyone assist with this? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 23:26:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83181065676 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708E88FC0A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sc390-00071h-Ef for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:26:34 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:26:34 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:26:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:26:36 -0000 On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:14:35 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to > FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in > FreeBSD is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) > mouse to work. > > Can anyone assist with this? > One bit of information which might be relevant: This is a laptop with a built-in touchpad. The touchpad works, even though I have made no configuration changes for it. Unfortunately, as I said, the mouse doesn't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 23:40:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905FE106566C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2958FC0C for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q55Ne6Tq009498; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q55Ne6JO009495; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Walter Hurry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:40:12 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Walter Hurry wrote: > Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to > FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to > work. > > I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail. > > This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated. > > I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X. > > Here is my xorg.conf in its entirety: There are duplicated sections in the output provided. > ################################## > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "XFree86 Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "Clone" "off" > EndSection > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" > EndSection Setting AutoAddDevices on means to use HAL for mouse detection. Is HAL running? On one notebook, I had to set moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf before both the touchpad and an external mouse would work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 00:18:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4E6106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE858FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q55NvUWH011892; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?G=F6k=BAin_Akdeniz?= In-Reply-To: <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Bruce Cran , Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:18:42 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote: > For the time being only ARM platform is restricted. True, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded by MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is to add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or all desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of years. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 01:34:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE431065673 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F00BB8FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 01:33:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.70] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 01:33:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 01:33:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1338946439; bh=w4OUKRJ0CR6gvTC7QFaSLrAhkIZBBM0T7np/SrwUVlc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TGr/x58BPerRdorUL+iI4jkr8Taj1o16NThSgd4y7wmJ7/ExTow+8vxvOHH+7BtEMqxg5txWxOPogvam2WWa4pYa6fmf3+12ZhYi95o+siW4xD6WlQl8clJs+1w0fhYwn1svbjFKHHTKQSfW8lIlAkQK0oYl/kNYIch90jpAc6s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 218929.59749.bm@smtp107.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: k0Oq4bIVM1my13i82Rt1..hrJ1LcRflFLTvUXn9QHu4TfUJ wWd6ffAVz7JrfOP3Wa38FRhevoHVxg.5GSQ4QbevxhnW8FzRkOmS5BCmocSO jWaAXUCsjoqAcp.7PeE6ORcc_x28BJyxAPvOTNiCmAbd4DGiz7GcnEXreMSl .baLo9e3fic8HzWpJEQbmZyAVvw1T7g6l_Uvz96EkGKAeDrmnRdHbmtPONxC Hcj7YMS6ZQiazfvK9cdfHSIRL2fUFwtNE3U9IiICzQ9_dHELFAUa26LHkHks OpDVW3WByq_5a9lc4eZoIqdJMQ9MeqTYZoy0aY0sB1VkVNYrWTMSZ4rlTMQp eqzrefZaNWd9ikxs1q52Zcjdyc8FoadJPaJ4zeqy8X3ZJfyTee8owtGUNP2r 0WaNmrQbgkBSpe3TE9BGcE5DBcsh_OcicqYWQ_JiTEB6qOQxBmFdFohZ_82s qa4hWq.tZcKFQYPyWIEnmdDOrhQxq0eLPyg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- Received: from europa (mike.jeays@99.224.68.20 with login) by smtp107.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Jun 2012 18:33:59 -0700 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:33:58 -0400 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120605213358.5047d683@europa> In-Reply-To: References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:34:00 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Chris Hill wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote: > > > For the time being only ARM platform is restricted. > > True, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded by > MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is > to add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or > all desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of years. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This seems all too likely to me. I expect it will become very hard to find a consumer laptop that will run other operating systems in a few years. There won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one can be pretty sure. It will be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive future. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 01:56:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2F81065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E28FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so3703416wib.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nkvLWaB45/R42fiEMXKoIlJXaN281IdWwmgBGsVFqqQ=; b=mpJ/2hbyhCaxorWM03btLM2D+Sn+zw2Zw+n9cDo7JryUmp0HC5+FEz2EuYglKCg0TS DkwSzem/A0p9GSIn9D1Nd4C0awkhx9cJ74oGoychw8YaWKWq2qGaoK3yLgH/S8NPN4M/ PMMrgp/eF7AbTXLyoU5tGACeXbfoTL12MifotxDRDtWdqLQ2VuSF/dE5dFBuEH/P8bXI qneCPRLxo//35YQzqgyXsrB65Zwwp1M5V5dYZ7EOn5O0VZT/9uWNGdtEHW/UuD9w7Zys NZ1wCq+qXDesjngaFaemNRTD7sj45oQhD3TasLUG6Z4q/MiUnXybd2wDjTPOsK0QZk/H n68A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.195.12 with SMTP id o12mr16022628wen.194.1338947796597; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120605213358.5047d683@europa> References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <20120605213358.5047d683@europa> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: Mike Jeays Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:56:38 -0000 On Jun 5, 2012 6:35 PM, "Mike Jeays" wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT) > Chris Hill wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote: > > > > > For the time being only ARM platform is restricted. > > > > True, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded by > > MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is > > to add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or > > all desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of years. > > > > -- > > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > This seems all too likely to me. I expect it will become very hard to find a consumer laptop that will run other operating systems in a few years. There won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one can be pretty sure. It will be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive future. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I understand there are only a few (like two) monster-sized computer manufacturers, which are based in China, who manufacture the massive bulk of "consumer" laptops. the name brand models in the local retail store are almost always these ODM computers with a preloaded hard drive and a fancy label w/ insignia slapped on the shell. One may purchase a "Generic" laptop to spec (without any MS stuff installed, if you so desire), for a single-unit competitive price. for example search "compal" ... i'm curious how the restricted boot scheme will come into play in these "no flashy labels" portable machines. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 02:22:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB93106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38C68FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sc5sr-0006dd-II for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:22:05 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:22:05 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:22:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:22:18 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" > > Set this to off. > Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to "Off", but there is no apparent difference; only a new set of messages in Xorg.0.log: (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (WW) Mouse0: No Device specified, looking for one... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 02:29:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D986B106589D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DB4E8FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83409 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2012 02:21:49 -0000 Received: from pool-72-89-112-74.nycmny.east.verizon.net (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@72.89.112.74) by 199.4.235.5 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2012 02:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 8486 invoked by uid 103); 6 Jun 2012 02:05:14 -0000 Date: 6 Jun 2012 02:05:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20120606020514.8485.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: Walter Hurry In-reply-to: (message from Walter Hurry on Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC)) References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:29:40 -0000 Walter Hurry writes: > > Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to > FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to > work. > > I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail. > > This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated. > > I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X. > The clue here is 'fully updated'. The latest hald has a bug that keeps the mouse from working. If you look in your X.org.0.log you may find a section which says that /dev/ums, configured by hal, is busy, and unloads the mouse. If you don't find that, then ignore the rest of this email :) There are various "solutions" to this, one is to disable the auto configure, and add the configuration for both keyboard and mouse to the .conf file. Another is to restart dbus and hald. You can switch to a console window from X and run this command: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart If that fixes it, then you can automate it by putting something like this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d , call it haldfixbug or something like that: ---------- #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: HALD_FIX_BUG # REQUIRE: hald dbus # [ "$1" = start ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED" [ "$1" = faststart ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED" sleep 5 exit 0 ------------- This might not work if you use startx, but should be ok with xdm or gdm. It works for me, maybe not for you. Best, Scott -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 02:55:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03D4106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749BC8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q562tEmU007111; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:55:16 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:55:08 +0700 Message-ID: <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:55:17 -0000 Hi I have had success on my hardware with this setting: # The working configuration. The mouse daemon in /etc/rc.conf # was dsabled. # # Section "ServerLayout" # Identifier "X.org Configured" # Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 # InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" # InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" # EndSection # # Section "ServerFlags" # Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" # Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" # EndSection Turning off the mouse daemon was the key on that hardware. The same xorg settings needed the mouse daemon turned on on other hardware. Good luck! Erich On 06 June 2012 2:21:53 Walter Hurry wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" > > > > Set this to off. > > > Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to "Off", but there is > no apparent difference; only a new set of messages in Xorg.0.log: > > (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (WW) Mouse0: No Device specified, looking for one... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 02:59:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C821106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DCF8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so5095680wer.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mAXMHivjpEIPAnt4RmI5BLyq/B6wngPfZSZgayb+j5k=; b=eMZ55gEp7qK9D746s5PUGGm1k8IPnUEIdUCSxuu59TvAo+QDv3+5khNl1NPT4Tp7W3 FkTqv+due6FoEO5uICHQqXNfIu0JRxV7we16YlrrByIZwO6ZTmZSiQyR+61bJqYpNIxQ tF4tnCrlkclbD0a5O6waWfZns7EZ63Q69ksbuPpAgazjstt0FS/h/e3ux3eLrl+Km/zO OF2Zd8zZ9NsDf6Hb2j6kasXWrglvrrxGJWe6YWEGPx+NVxpdP0WxO7n4Se/mVLJGRYpJ /GcOOPn6Z9Ux5xM7edAjmqRJnz8q6OaUn02TVYLjgaI1f+nTexCfNJbg3GwlMAQuCjmZ j9Ag== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.198.164 with SMTP id v36mr16044391wen.199.1338951588845; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:59:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120606020514.8485.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> References: <20120606020514.8485.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:59:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:59:50 -0000 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > Walter Hurry writes: > > > > > Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to > > FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in > FreeBSD > > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to > > work. > > > > I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail. > > > > This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated. > > > > I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X. > > > > The clue here is 'fully updated'. The latest hald has a bug that keeps > the mouse from working. If you look in your X.org.0.log you may find > a section which says that /dev/ums, configured by hal, is busy, and > unloads the mouse. If you don't find that, then ignore the rest of > this email :) > > There are various "solutions" to this, one is to disable the auto > configure, and add the configuration for both keyboard and mouse to > the .conf file. Another is to restart dbus and hald. You can switch > to a console window from X and run this command: > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart > > If that fixes it, then you can automate it by putting something like > this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d , call it haldfixbug or something like > that: > > ---------- > #!/bin/sh > # > # PROVIDE: HALD_FIX_BUG > # REQUIRE: hald dbus > # > > [ "$1" = start ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED" > [ "$1" = faststart ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED" > sleep 5 > exit 0 > ------------- > > This might not work if you use startx, but should be ok with xdm or > gdm. It works for me, maybe not for you. > > Best, > Scott > -- > sdb@ssr.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > i'll give that a try. After updating a couple of days ago the mouse is glued to the center of the screen after starting X. I noticed if i first kill moused before startx it works fine. (moused apparently restarts). But maybe this solution will end the work-around. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 03:35:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC65D1065675 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 03:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6078FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 03:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q563ZLhB022031; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:35:44 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:35:14 +0700 Message-ID: <1529132.jI8PiRModA@x220.ovitrap.com> Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20120606020514.8485.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Waitman Gobble Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 03:35:45 -0000 Hi, On 05 June 2012 19:59:48 Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > > i'll give that a try. After updating a couple of days ago the mouse is > glued to the center of the screen after starting X. I noticed if i first > kill moused before startx it works fine. (moused apparently restarts). But > maybe this solution will end the work-around. > I came to this the same way. X stopped working with the mouse after an upgrade many, many years ago. If it happens again, I play with the parameters in there. I have read that other people also played with HAL but I never needed so. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 07:32:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E371E1065741 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB68FC1A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q567W8W5028261 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:32:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q567W8W5028261 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q567W8W5028261; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:32:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBF5E2C979C77396F49AE282C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:32:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBF5E2C979C77396F49AE282C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/06/2012 23:10, Jerry wrote: > I thought this URL also shown > above, answered that question. Signing bootloaders and kernels etc. seems superficially like a good idea to me. However, instant reaction is that this is definitely *not* something that Microsoft should be in charge of. Some neutral[*] body without any commercial interests should do that job, and bootloader/kernel signing should be freely available. On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable. It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. Which completely abrogates the whole point of signing bootloaders/kernels in the first place: anyone wishing to create malware would be able to sign whatever they want using such a key. It's DRM-level stupidity all over again. My conclusion: boycott products, manufacturers and/or OSes that participate in this scheme. FreeBSD alone won't make any real difference to manufacturers, but I hope there is still enough of the original spirit of freedom within the Linux camp, and perhaps from Google/android to make an impact. I'm pretty sure there can be a way of whitelisting bootloaders and so forth to help prevent low-level malware, but this isn't it. Cheers, Matthew [*] I suggest ICANN might be the right sort of organization to fulfil this role. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:45:08 -0000 On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable. > It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or > drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own > is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is > that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would either need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own certificate and install it. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 09:03:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B6E106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=497d7ee11=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A008FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchhubcas2.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.66]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 06 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by internal-relay-exchhubcas2.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.298.4; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5692XTA003807; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5692X9K003806; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Message-ID: <20120606090233.GA3748@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: isc-dhcpd - logging client transactions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:03:43 -0000 Hi, I've set up isc-dhcpd (/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp42-server). The daemon runs, hands out IP-addresses however logging doesn't seem to work. Here's what I've got in the respective config-files: /etc/rc.conf: # dhcpd dhcpd_enable="YES" dhcpd_conf="/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf" dhcpd_ifaces="em0" dhcpd_withumask="022" dhcpd_chuser_enable="YES" dhcpd_withuser="dhcpd" dhcpd_withgroup="dhcpd" dhcpd_chroot_enable="YES" dhcpd_devfs_enable="YES" dhcpd_rootdir="/var/db/dhcpd" /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf: ... log-facility local7; /etc/syslog.conf: local7.* /var/log/dhcpd.log /var/log/dhcpd.log is "touch"ed, so it exists. Also restarted syslogd and isc-dhcpd. Result: dhcpd works (i.e. I see entries in the leases-file (/var/db/dhcpd/var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases) however nothing is logged to /var/log/dhcpd.log. I can rule out any error with syslogd.conf since when I start isc-dhcp "by hand" (/usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -d) I get an error message - and this one is definitely logged to /var/log/dhcpd.log. What I really need though is a log of all the DHCP-transactions, i.e. DHCP-requests, address assignments etc. Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 09:38:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7222F1065677 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA208FC1E for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q569clXu077145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:38:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q569clXu077145 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q569clXu077145; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:41 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8F65C3A1E9F1D2610769384D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jerry , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:38:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8F65C3A1E9F1D2610769384D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/06/2012 09:45, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable= =2E >> It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or >> drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own= >> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence = is >> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. > It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would either= > need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own certificate > and install it. Indeed. However disabling secure boot is apparently: * too difficult for users of Fedora * not possible on all platforms (arm based tablets especially) and purchasing your own certificate currently means paying $99 to Microsoft, or else getting a key from the hardware manufacturer (which I very much suspect will not be free either). While I would expect the typical FreeBSD user to be quite capable of disabling secure boot, I know that this is something that will result in realms of questions by new users, alarmist claims that "FreeBSD is not secure" and general glee amongst the "FreeBSD is dying" crowd. This is just another misconceived DRM scheme and suffers from all the same old flaws. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig8F65C3A1E9F1D2610769384D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/PJScACgkQ8Mjk52CukIynOgCfUw8ApHCaq1ucLMAQW+FIqNCV mhkAn3d+tD7Q5DOuZYacRtg+RE+x4xmx =INum -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8F65C3A1E9F1D2610769384D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 09:46:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692D81065673; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143978FC0C; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so13066899obc.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=V2BUCtKXTV/jD2tKAnqijJWazS+7I5Cp4NMWEd+yHds=; b=joTL/g9p5IEm3iS+QrkE2A3kkbeYkB050UbOiDl7fdU+N/MnePSWa5oIP/rd4no+Cu wR/3qXr3a27KbVt0zaK3tmsYrKRYLFXNeEpld/ct77zI/OnP0oypMsYkJL4tu7yURUow Bw8633TJZntOn7EIwy8FQiyHZ11NRjaPLFpP35PVTpbcBKq6Xppf6/Z8cMnVuEs4hOx6 BtEueBtzzUp+vM50r4C0cmjQ5O4zYPPuxMfWZUmvemNm5j894cypUQM877yqjc316hCc yj8SVnaFezIYV5KffDCFId/5Z0ToW5T0zB79tyR5WQYffg/pAzA/52pPLQ5hhI/5amlo fZWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.70 with SMTP id l6mr20050512oee.38.1338975998517; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Jerry , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:46:39 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 06/06/2012 09:45, Bruce Cran wrote: > > On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable. > >> It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or > >> drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own > >> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is > >> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. > > > It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would either > > need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own certificate > > and install it. > > Indeed. However disabling secure boot is apparently: > > * too difficult for users of Fedora > > * not possible on all platforms (arm based tablets especially) > > and purchasing your own certificate currently means paying $99 to > Microsoft, or else getting a key from the hardware manufacturer (which I > very much suspect will not be free either). > > While I would expect the typical FreeBSD user to be quite capable of > disabling secure boot, I know that this is something that will result in > realms of questions by new users, alarmist claims that "FreeBSD is not > secure" and general glee amongst the "FreeBSD is dying" crowd. > > This is just another misconceived DRM scheme and suffers from all the > same old flaws. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > > http://www.infoworld.com/t/hacking/tech-behind-flame-attack-could-compromise-microsoft-update-194867 Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 10:20:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12941065673 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FFC8FC1A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF537.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.245.55]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q56AKRcS027134 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:20:28 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56AKFeN004969 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:20:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q55NbIWr062787 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:38:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206052338.q55NbIWr062787@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD Questions From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:13:03 EDT." <20120605151303.11596msta89hqw5b@mail.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:37:18 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:20:35 -0000 jerrymc@msu.edu wrote: > Quoting Kurt Buff : > > > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. > > > > I don't see how this MS scam is even at all legal. > It is clearly restraint of trade and probably violates some other > related laws too. A shame Bush blocked dismembering monopolist Microsoft. The last enormous fines Microsoft paid the EU for monopoly abuse, presumably failed to discipline Microsoft. Time for increased fines, till Microsoft stops abusing its monooly. Would be nice if the fines were so high it forced a free recall by hardware vendors to fix, if it can't be fixed with a UEFI net upgrade. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:24:52 -0000 --Sig_/u4TyT_XnOlRfOgzcMy2iMKz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:41 +0100 Matthew Seaman articulated: >On 06/06/2012 09:45, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely >>> unworkable. It means that you will not be able to compile your own >>> kernel or drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As >>> building your own is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the >>> logical consequence is that FreeBSD source should come with a >>> signing key for anyone to use. > >> It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would >> either need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own >> certificate and install it. > >Indeed. However disabling secure boot is apparently: > > * too difficult for users of Fedora > > * not possible on all platforms (arm based tablets especially) > >and purchasing your own certificate currently means paying $99 to >Microsoft, or else getting a key from the hardware manufacturer (which >I very much suspect will not be free either). I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as many binaries as you want. >While I would expect the typical FreeBSD user to be quite capable of >disabling secure boot, I know that this is something that will result >in realms of questions by new users, alarmist claims that "FreeBSD is >not secure" and general glee amongst the "FreeBSD is dying" crowd. > >This is just another misconceived DRM scheme and suffers from all the >same old flaws. I don't feel this is misconceived at all. Again, from what I have read, most non-Microsoft operating systems have been able to use UEFI Secure Boot for nearly eight years; however, they have actively refused to do so. However, now Microsoft has stepped up to the plate and is actively taking advantage of the scheme. Actually, Microsoft has been issuing warnings for ten years when a user would attempt to install unsigned drivers. Now the FOSS community is getting its knickers in a knot. They should have taken this into account a long time ago. In any case, we are talking $99 dollars total, not per user here for the certificate. If that is going to cause a problem, I'll donate the $99. In any case, the real problem appears to be how FreeBSD is going to handle drivers which apparently will need to be signed since they work at the kernel level. Apparently Fedora has a working solution for that all ready. --=20 Jerry =E2=99=94 Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ --Sig_/u4TyT_XnOlRfOgzcMy2iMKz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPzy/vAAoJEF2rWD2do7dNzlcH/i63zCu7cxfLV2yuifTwdZ9Q rIjglwHfcxYzssiYIwAEzEqcmnKsn9qaRZYfnWR6h7jD8N0bPcVssU997Vh19CDx fCNikboXXFpva6kMRYLZFHyKczUU9eyRkqBiJ0H4nsz+w35kFugve0wdzodMoha/ ifsrHwTp/DyzV1LhCSnnag+HsfF5C6REualrNdS5ymGYV0izvynD6hAqpGaBwVMn KMYDdZ9koNzpRx8momK9SE067fEj4yjx2ayrL/INMQ9jjqQoYpuGCmkiiH5Fl7/B Nc5HgIcTXNpSr5yC+5ePjagQpGSYgzadfKBZyV30o7WAPyELB0sLWP8jSBfjvS8= =nZT9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/u4TyT_XnOlRfOgzcMy2iMKz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 10:38:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20AC1065688 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCE78FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A6FE63FA; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:39:35 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=8oO0giBlDZWX LY9uypyCKJv3cS0=; b=BbI6pRjCdFYM+mVllF+sfmyVxy1LolBcRiF8HoL7N+6B Nf3V1ts+9mjjXdBPhS373PwAF+EXQRZwCjyDriOvcPxG0UPYYKfMHjW83VD9Q6nU LTaAJtehovjYnIzzMt1t8RZ+GMq6YEb3M7KtfkI6tfk14w++1HFzz5wCsGShp4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=p2tMCv 7Drb7sbOQ1gtpqUGpP2uxmXTqHs6J2zWPGvJmgvCvfnnSicBBEe2fGv74RPuFPEp gqfifZXc8jX1iolu8kI9ktlt0jxV5D+8CnQ2tyXZhNAM/m2hIUtqc7v0q30GHK+Q bh17C3jGBbZANwCeUX5D/GZuDC50E3TYH79Co= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2185CE63D1; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:39:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FCF333B.9030402@cran.org.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:38:51 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:54 -0000 On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: > > They should have taken this into account a long time ago. In any > case, we are talking $99 dollars total, not per user here for the > certificate. If that is going to cause a problem, I'll donate the $99. It's not the $99 that'll be the problem, but the fact that it's Verisign (actually Symantec, since they bought Verisign) that you deal with. Whereas Globalsign accept applications from individuals, Verisign require company documents before they'll generate a certificate. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 10:45:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAFF106567B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [93.89.92.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03588FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71796E643F; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:46:38 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=xSJFZ908W99k pJOk8C5b6fAm1IY=; b=l4jtbpi3AL96Y4oY7vb0GzJVCQzyBE6LKX/vXvuZ7MVf +EP7WwJJU8rhDFAO6Q0aqs3Vjot6aOXyyw5V0WpHMVpnR/unpX4nKd7cx9yfgkff NVlEVZkBh13eA+u59ZNQfthMAqoZqD4KeHItppWUwg6Za4DnOaQtKemYcyurBRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=sJS+d0 YmDls+OspvsmedIO3YthOL8ekWJ7S1GcuJSKndp5Q2+LZoLTycw1wzTBHHKmvw6e Q37wVto6CjZFsWIO8n6aK+AM2/7/3flP78e3ImuW172eaj9ICp4zqAz8kwaF7Ovh YnzhA/iJcOcqpiF5n7Iz2priVkwnT1NZ6sRWo= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 532E9E63D1; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:46:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FCF34E2.8010209@cran.org.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:45:54 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF333B.9030402@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FCF333B.9030402@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:45:57 -0000 On 06/06/2012 11:38, Bruce Cran wrote: > It's not the $99 that'll be the problem, but the fact that it's > Verisign (actually Symantec, since they bought Verisign) that you deal > with. Whereas Globalsign accept applications from individuals, > Verisign require company documents before they'll generate a certificate. > I've just checked, and I'm wrong - they seem to have changed things and now allow signups from individuals. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 10:47:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31299106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8758FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56AlIv9078366 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:47:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q56AlIv9078366 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1338979638; bh=x0iSAxtZKbf3T5Emz808ifj0mSq+t33tJ/2h+jXlRl4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=FboZImi+boIW0wkngWzKItg7o9JhYoPvhBkfuLVL0AIq6PiQKD13gQHswgM7gexVg /i8UyjrWBb7txW14xIaNGQvi1a+XM0wQ+1L9CvFpl6jU1upAUwnuD0MKoJ10/hmKHd WmQruuRn1cu/nRHENJSsnA69qYrki2wHrOps6zSo= Message-ID: <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:47:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: > I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 > goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as > many binaries as you want. Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? $99 as a one-off payment might seem a trivial cost to you, so much so that you rather rashly promised to pay that for anyone. I won't hold you to it. Even so, there are several thousand readers of this list. I doubt even you could afford to subsidise very many of them... Yes UEFI Secure Boot may have been around for 8 years. The fact that no one has adopted use of it in all that time speaks volumes. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/PNTYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwhzwCfTlg6XejomVqkYBqFjU8fcj5n KHAAniSyXN+xUAAcBt1mPVT7hKZjoItv =iF1F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 11:26:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982291065670; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337398FC08; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q56BQQ0G016373; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:26:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:19:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120606 #8142887, check: 20120606 clean Cc: Jerry , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:26:30 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/06/2012 23:10, Jerry wrote: >> I thought this URL also shown >> above, answered that question. > > Signing bootloaders and kernels etc. seems superficially like a good > idea to me. However, instant reaction is that this is definitely *not* > something that Microsoft should be in charge of. Some neutral[*] body ... > On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable. > It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or > drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own You don't need the signing key if you turn off secure boot in the CMOS. The fedora folk are worried that naive desktop users will not be able to do that, and usage of linux will be impeded. It won't be a significant impediment to users capable of compiling their own kernel. > is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is > that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. > > Which completely abrogates the whole point of signing > bootloaders/kernels in the first place: anyone wishing to create malware > would be able to sign whatever they want using such a key. It's > DRM-level stupidity all over again. I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key have to keep it secret? Apple keeps it's signing key secret because it gets a share of revenue from the sale of apps. If the fedora key became known it wouldn't hurt fedora. Can the UEFI BIOS consult a list of revoked keys online? That would be surprising. dan feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 11:28:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB0B106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD388FC16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so13216583obc.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mRlanG7D31ljslbUD4UIc17IiG0ejb+ib3VUDw4wmQ4=; b=NexPX33WPeM/2gCZGB86r3fq0VuJWkUCHOf3bCXA98T/ie30ECWUh/mAh7YzXIzmn8 e5yS4+ZRo83dZPbLJA5Sib5ADGnE9RKp1cBwr9JAYgFbGUjm+Seg/O8cjyoLojggIWCc COcZnrGTYCHykvcmGko9JEM+fMqE6rrIOoGaoSZgMHeaAjfgnAXIJ/9UXTsAXRKjHPpr zGlCctYNiX/s+z4Ps1D9k4/nJgGg+BJGdaMHur2GVMdBHDQNDh7xZR+Xra0ID8jnyEmH WAxmMUxi4N7aqdQb4Uiz4CKbFtGJ8CrflsAs+ph8wmp2gN0icS3fV4PQ9VTMAnKWHfg7 Syeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr19938601obd.75.1338982094320; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:28:15 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: > > I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 > > goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as > > many binaries as you want. > > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > > $99 as a one-off payment might seem a trivial cost to you, so much so > that you rather rashly promised to pay that for anyone. I won't hold you > to it. Even so, there are several thousand readers of this list. I > doubt even you could afford to subsidise very many of them... > > Yes UEFI Secure Boot may have been around for 8 years. The fact that no > one has adopted use of it in all that time speaks volumes. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > What will be the usefulness of a security key for an Open Source Operating System when people are not using mostly "proprietary" binary packages and nearly all of the supplied binary packages have accompanying sources ? When FreeBSD is installing a binary package or making a port , it is ALWAYS checking integrity of installed parts . Then is there a necessity of a "Security Key" obtained by paying money ? In Turkish literature , there is a person named as "Deli Dumrul" means "Crazy Dumrul" where his name is "Dumrul" . "Crazy Dumrul" constructed a bridge over a dried river . If any one passes from the bridge , he was taking money for passing over the bridge for "Using the Bridge" , and , if any one is NOT passing from the bridge , and walking over the dried river , he was taking money for "Not to Use the Bridge" . It seems that "History is Repeating" .... Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 11:36:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516D21065688 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwel_mihai@yahoo.com) Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 187458FC1D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 11:36:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.23] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 11:36:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 11:36:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 203244.9944.bm@omp1023.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34435 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2012 11:36:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1338982580; bh=uWEXwk0iREdovTUi+f5WZXGqpaECEf3SOQHGer5PTbs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tvPR7WyUYZFNjZGtwyDrUv0sW2vsBC0pah1kJGh0XrExRaliq3r8T6Ne+DPzJzOsLdS3+7FtSspkvmSO3Td2rJMp3jLs8713zzPwSWfwy63w5LeOlvETmzrjZeBuonsQq+2ecIFtqlrhxFthE1Qn4VvCCMjm1uCfyll1QTC9tgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J0bsyX/1NrIYDS8Pl9UU1TLG4StXayC8pO1iVfZA3zfTIzAC2FqDLavJrbL+hVO62IRegYLhPLz0DLeOjUBiv+KR/jEgyuKIEjJeNW0THdDZIlNyTE68sOSy2k2iOrByD1zSXw3VP4dv9BQjsWPNINhv/piQbsf/aYNnE9Hkld4=; X-YMail-OSG: qQSu7g0VM1nJietNrHYqtoetNB2tJHK957nlc4Ha.IozTpd ENTa8CSTkDEzf.oEN1WySo3maGrtCZBqokJKUqi1RWkX1ZLp1DLrxqSnJMaT oho5wrxrP7gGY89IjUMB5qEslGoj6rvXxkTC916aBFgFcvPV6SwBi6iY9vi3 qPmY5SpChLI5Hckt4GUNKNOOM548eyM3T5przg7uU4PO0pfBOMr_vIlQo7ua 6_pnRCPjOw9wfkFn.Mt9oIR4jP2leCVhUdbu22Wc1BICa7SOp_z8.zrV.qkN TM9VAXvCD8A1Hldi925giySF8We3wwh.WPWQBKF95UpJBfJ5.q2BzKtQtkSg qEQRWRH0OEaRMVoxk7cu.zV9e4w4sub_jJZn47U2sAjwE_GFR2ZqznFIhKFe DaJQd2D.k4INcMdNXY6XjCPpaRdbw_9BB4TA_9tO6egekhxtPUIh.3aUH1a7 IdF3iXEe8ZKWY.rk4GP60ceDBgl25rIAeKl6GNtZHzw7u.beMYup4H47Wo5i .hUbUfJydnj9nMaz3QYoHHrOD56gJOOHkvmUvmneCJgw8pXOhBGZ4_nhzlJ3 mNnZMjqVnU2hPcvQrbc97k.c7uLNN61hDCH7ZoolnYptfBBSETgolY1V0f.M y6OMRjMoj_G.yCwBsYrWnlgTCeJfsdo..AMY4bA-- Received: from [92.86.6.234] by web114108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:36:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 References: <20120606103906.8BDCF106578C@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <1338982579.34045.YahooMailNeo@web114108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:36:19 -0700 (PDT) From: kwel kwel To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20120606103906.8BDCF106578C@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kwel kwel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:36:27 -0000 =0A=0A=0APlease remove my email from your database i don't want to receive = any other mail from you plzz thanks !=0A________________________________=0A= From: "freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org" =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =0ASent: Wednesday, June 6,= 2012 1:39 PM=0ASubject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7=0A =0AS= end freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free= bsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A=0ATo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wi= de Web, visit=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinf= o/freebsd-questions=0Aor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'h= elp' to=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0A=0AYou= can reach the person managing the list at=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 freebsd-que= stions-owner@freebsd.org=0A=0AWhen replying, please edit your Subject line = so it is more specific=0Athan "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..."= =0A=0A=0AToday's Topics:=0A=0A=C2=A0 1. Re: Is this something we (as consu= mers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Daniel Feenbe= rg)=0A=C2=A0 2. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to= be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of?] (Jerry)=0A=C2=A0 3. Re: Is this some= thing we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware = of? (Jerry)=0A=C2=A0 4. implementing ipv6 into my ipfw ruleset... (Jason U= sher)=0A=C2=A0 5. Re: how do I=C2=A0 fix this? (Gary Kline)=0A=C2=A0 6. C= uriousity ? (Geir Svalland)=0A=C2=A0 7. Re: Is this something we (as consu= mers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Daniel Feenbe= rg)=0A=C2=A0 8. Re: /usr/bin/find - binary operands howto (grarpamp)=0A=C2= =A0 9. FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Walter Hurry)=0A=C2=A0 10.= Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Bernt Hansson)=0A=C2=A0 11. R= e: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Walter Hurry)=0A=C2=A0 12. Re: = FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Warren Block)=0A=C2=A0 13. Re: Is = this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 aware of? (Chris Hill)=0A=C2=A0 14. Re: Is this something we (as consum= ers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Mike Jeays)=0A= =C2=A0 15. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of? (Waitman Gobble)=0A=C2=A0 = 16. Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Walter Hurry)=0A=C2=A0 17.= Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Scott Ballantyne)=0A=C2=A0 18= . Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Erich)=0A=C2=A0 19. Re: Free= BSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Waitman Gobble)=0A=C2=A0 20. Re: FreeB= SD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Erich Dollansky)=0A=C2=A0 21. Re: Is th= is something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= aware of? (Matthew Seaman)=0A=C2=A0 22. Re: Is this something we (as consu= mers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Bruce Cran)= =0A=C2=A0 23. isc-dhcpd - logging client transactions (Ewald Jenisch)=0A=C2= =A0 24. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Matthew Seaman)=0A=C2=A0 25. Re: Is this somet= hing we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of? (Mehmet Erol Sanliturk)=0A=C2=A0 26. Re: Is this som= ething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of?=C2=A0 (Julian H. Stacey)=0A=C2=A0 27. Re: Is this so= mething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 awar= e of? (Jerry)=0A=C2=A0 28. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBS= D) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Bruce Cran)=0A=0A=0A-------= ---------------------------------------------------------------=0A=0AMessag= e: 1=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT)=0AFrom: Daniel Feenberg <= feenberg@nber.org>=0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of Fre= eBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: Polytropon =0ACc: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AMessage-ID: =0AContent-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Df= lowed=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote:=0A=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun= 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:=0A>> UEFI considerations drive Fedor= a to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries=0A>> http://cwonline.computerwo= rld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/=0A>=0A> I may reply with another link:= =0A> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html=0A>=0A=0AI have a pretty basic = question that probably displays some ignorance...=0A=0ADoes the loader need= to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything, or =0Ajust things MS has = approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel run =0Aanything, or just t= hings MS has approved? If RH has a signed kernel, do =0Athey have to sign a= ll the userland programs that run under that kernel? =0ACan users sign prog= rams compiled from source?=0A=0AIf MS only has to sign the first link in th= e chain, then the $99 =0Acertificate is not really a problem except for the= pure of heart. If MS or =0Asomeone else has to sign all the way down to th= e userland binaries, then =0Ausers of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure = boot in CMOS, and it will =0Alose a few users. But I can't tell from the di= scussions mentioned above. =0AEither way, I don't think it will destroy Fre= eBSD, or Linux, but I would =0Abe interested anyway.=0A=0ADaniel Feenberg= =0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 2=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun = 2012 17:20:46 -0400=0AFrom: Jerry =0ASubject: Re: Is t= his something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = aware of?]=0ATo: FreeBSD =0AMessage-ID: <201= 20605172046.2571e964@scorpio>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8= =0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:19:00 -0700=0AColin Barnabas articulated:=0A=0A= >History show us that _everything_ will eventually run *nix.=0A=0APerhaps, = but *nix will not run everything.=0A=0A>Take a look at the Sony PS3 debacle= . After Sony yanked support for=0A>installing other OS's, the community rip= ped apart their=0A>hypervisor in a matter of months. If these boot keys do = gain any=0A>momentum, sooner than later the community with poke holes in th= e=0A>system.=0A=0AWhich, depending on how the end user or his flunky "poke = holes" in the=0Asystem, may allow vendors to disallow warranty claims.=0A= =0AThe question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what=0AFree= BSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do not=0Ause t= he latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before=0Aits user= base is even effected.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry =E2=99=94=0A=0ADisclaimer: off-lis= t followups get on-list replies or get ignored.=0APlease do not ignore the = Reply-To header.=0A________________________________________________________= __________=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 3=0ADate= : Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:10:55 -0400=0AFrom: Jerry =0ASubj= ect: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD =0AMess= age-ID: <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; chars= et=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT)=0ADaniel Feenberg a= rticulated:=0A=0A>On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote:=0A>=0A>> On Tue, 5 = Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:=0A>>> UEFI considerations drive F= edora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel=0A>>> binaries=0A>>> http://cwonline= .computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/=0A>>=0A>> I may reply with a= nother link:=0A>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html=0A>=0A>I have a pr= etty basic question that probably displays some ignorance...=0A>=0A>Does th= e loader need to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything,=0A>or just t= hings MS has approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel=0A>run anythi= ng, or just things MS has approved? If RH has a signed=0A>kernel, do they h= ave to sign all the userland programs that run under=0A>that kernel? Can us= ers sign programs compiled from source?=0A>=0A>If MS only has to sign the f= irst link in the chain, then the $99 =0A>certificate is not really a proble= m except for the pure of heart. If=0A>MS or someone else has to sign all th= e way down to the userland=0A>binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to = turn off secure boot in=0A>CMOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't = tell from the=0A>discussions mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it = will destroy=0A>FreeBSD, or Linux, but I would be interested anyway.=0A=0AI= thought this URL also shown=0Aabo= ve, answered that question.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry =E2=99=94=0A=0ADisclaimer: off= -list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.=0APlease do not ignore = the Reply-To header.=0A____________________________________________________= ______________=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 4=0ADat= e: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:12:06 -0700 (PDT)=0AFrom: Jason Usher =0ASubject: implementing ipv6 into my ipfw ruleset...=0ATo: freebsd-qu= estions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <1338934326.88519.Ya= hooMailClassic@web122502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; ch= arset=3Dus-ascii=0A=0AI have a fairly simple ipfw ruleset, which looks like= :=0A=0A=0A100 allow tcp from any to any established=0A110 allow icmp from a= ny to any icmptypes 0,3,8,11=0A120 deny icmp from any to any=0A130 allow ip= from any to any via lo0=0A=0A200 allow udp from me to any 53=0A210 allow u= dp from any 53 to me=0A220 allow udp from any to me 33433-33499=0A230 allow= tcp from any to 82.197.184.219 22,80,443 setup=0A=0A65000 deny log ip from= any to me=0A65001 deny log ip from any to me6=0A=0A=0AWhat I am wondering = is, am I blocking all ipv6 traffic by not explicitly allowing ipv6 in (for = the established rule 100, icmp rule 110, and the entire block of 200-230) ?= =0A=0AOr, since that is all tcp/udp/icmp, it doesn't matter, and I am prope= rly allowing in ipv6 traffic, but ONLY for the tcp/udp ports I specify, and= then blocking the rest ?=0A=0ABasically:=C2=A0 how is my ruleset treating = ipv6 traffic (other than the fact that, at the end of the set, I deny all i= pv6 that has gotten to that point)=0A=0Athank you.=0A=0A=0A----------------= --------------=0A=0AMessage: 5=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:34:27 -0700=0AFro= m: Gary Kline =0ASubject: Re: how do I=C2=A0 fix this?= =0ATo: Roland Smith =0ACc: FreeBSD =0AMessage-ID: <20120605223427.GC23645@thought.org>=0AContent-Type= : text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A=0AOn Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:04:35AM +0= 200, Roland Smith wrote:=0A> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:04:35 +0200=0A> From:= Roland Smith =0A> Subject: Re: how do I=C2=A0 fix this?= =0A> To: Gary Kline =0A> Cc: FreeBSD =0A> =0A> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:53:11PM -0700, Gary Kline = wrote:=0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 no joy.=C2=A0 I did another full upgrade.= =C2=A0 first time in many=0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 months.=C2=A0 then spent= a couple hours with portmaster (thank=0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 you, Roland= :).=C2=A0 this as a first upgrade.=C2=A0 =0A> =0A> Make sure you update por= tmaster first. The latest versions have significant=0A> improvements. Also = there has recently been a upgrade of libPNG, requiring a=0A> rebuild of eve= rything that needs it.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pretty sure that I did exact= ly that.=0A=0A> =0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 what I=C2=A0 want to do is get as= current as possible and then =0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 install 7.5.=C2=A0 = and stay there.=0A> =0A> 7.5 what? Do you mean Xorg? Please try and be spec= ific.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 FreeBSD-7.5.=C2=A0 pretty sure I saw somethin= g about 7.4 being=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 upgraded to 7.5.=C2=A0 I've been at = FBSD-7.3 for a long ti me.=C2=A0 I=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dont remember how m= any times I have upgraded this release,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 but it has bee= n solid.=C2=A0 =0A> =0A> >=C2=A0 another question involves =0A> > =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 accepting the "3-D" windows with whatever options they might=0A> = > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 present. =0A> =0A> You mean the options dialogs as run= by 'make config'? =0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 exactly.=C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A> Portm= aster will first=0A> recurse through the port and all of its dependencies (= if any) to handle any=0A> port OPTIONS via the 'make config' interface, bef= ore going off on the big=0A> build. =0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 one thing i= ve been doing is de-selection most=C2=A0 of the=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 option= s..=C2=A0 the box is my server. we [freebsders] have lost=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 the desktop 'market' ....=C2=A0 =0A> =0A> > is there any upgrade utilit= y or flag that will=0A> > accept and upgrade things without me having to be= here?=0A> =0A> Yes and no. With the latest portmaster you can use the -y f= lag to=0A> automatically answer "yes" to all questions. But some ports are = marked as=0A> "interactive", in the sense that they need you to give some i= nput. Or they are=0A> marked as "restricted" in that you might have to go a= nd download the tarball=0A> yourself somewhere. These are properties of the= ports system and the=0A> individual ports. No port build tool can override= that.=0A> =0A> BTW, use the -R flag with portmaster. If a long build fails= , it skips already=0A> updated stuff on the second try.=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 super; I'll add -yR to the argv list. tx again,=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 gary=0A=0A> =0A> Roland=0A> -- =0A> R.F.Smith=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/=0A> [plain text _non= -HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated]=0A> pgp: 1A2B 477= F 9970 BA3C 2914=C2=A0 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725)=0A=0A=0A= =0A-- =0AGary Kline=C2=A0 kline@thought.org=C2=A0 http://www.thought.org=C2= =A0 Public Service Unix=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Voice By Computer (for Universal A= ccess): http:/www.thought.org/vbc=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The = 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Twenty-five years of service to the Unix communit= y.=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 6=0ADate: Wed, 6= Jun 2012 00:20:11 +0200=0AFrom: "Geir Svalland" = =0ASubject: Curiousity ?=0ATo: =0AMessage-ID= : <001d01cd4369$5ff8f270$1fead750$@svalland@bredband.net>=0AContent-Type: t= ext/plain;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHello friends=C2=A0 = ( old )=0A=0AI've moved over ( tried other, but not so further paths )=0A= =0ANo, not all , but my butter and bread :=C2=A0 my gateway=0A=0AAlso serve= rs as my mail and DNS among others=0A=0A>From FreeBSD=C2=A0 to=C2=A0 OpenBS= D=0A=0AFckg gays, you want so much, but do we want it ?=0A=0AAll this going= from bsd to clang and what ever ?=0A=0AGet a clear=C2=A0 step by step howt= o, and don't't fck belive all others are=0Awhizzards ?=0A=0AHasse Hansson= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 7=0ADate: Tu= e, 5 Jun 2012 18:49:14 -0400 (EDT)=0AFrom: Daniel Feenberg =0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to b= e=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD =0AMessage-ID: =0AContent-Type:= TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Dflowed=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2= 012, Jerry wrote:=0A=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT)=0A> Daniel= Feenberg articulated:=0A>=0A>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote:=0A>>= =0A>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:=0A>>>> UEFI cons= iderations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel=0A>>>> binaries=0A= >>>> http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/=0A>>>=0A= >>> I may reply with another link:=0A>>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.= html=0A>>=0A>> I have a pretty basic question that probably displays some i= gnorance...=0A>>=0A>> Does the loader need to be signed? Once signed, can i= t load anything,=0A>> or just things MS has approved? If MS signs the kerne= l, can the kernel=0A>> run anything, or just things MS has approved? If RH = has a signed=0A>> kernel, do they have to sign all the userland programs th= at run under=0A>> that kernel? Can users sign programs compiled from source= ?=0A>>=0A>> If MS only has to sign the first link in the chain, then the $9= 9=0A>> certificate is not really a problem except for the pure of heart. If= =0A>> MS or someone else has to sign all the way down to the userland=0A>> = binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure boot in=0A>> C= MOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't tell from the=0A>> discussio= ns mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it will destroy=0A>> FreeBSD,= or Linux, but I would be interested anyway.=0A>=0A> I thought this URL also shown=0A> above, answered that q= uestion.=0A=0AIt says "once paid you can sign as many binaries as you want"= but I don't =0Aknow if that means "as many different binaries" or "as many= copies of the =0Asame binary".=0A=0ALater it says they will write a new bo= otloader that MS will sign and=0A"adding support for verifying that the ker= nel it's about to boot is signed =0Awith a trusted key" but I don't know if= that kernel is signed by MS or RH, =0Aor if MS gets to approve it.=0A=0AFi= nally it says "we'll be sanitising the kernel command line to avoid =0Acert= ain bits of functionality that would permit an attacker to cause even =0Aa = signed kernel to launch arbitrary code" but does "arbitrary code" refer =0A= to something I would want to do as a sys-admin?=0A=0Adan feenberg=0A=0A=0A-= -----------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 8=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:02= :18 -0400=0AFrom: grarpamp =0ASubject: Re: /usr/bin/fin= d - binary operands howto=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID:= =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AA single f= ind already had the needed selection and execution ops.=0ASo I was trying i= t first, before writing an external parser, etc.=0A=0AIt's still not clear = to me how find is compiling the arguments=0Ainternally, but using -vv on th= e utils helped a lot. After adding=0A-false after all the -exec's, it now w= orks as desired up against=0Amy array of inodes. I also worked in a pre-cha= nge, select, ls.=0A=0AThe arbitrary format of gfind is interesting. It can = maybe be=0Aapproximated in find with -exec ls someargs {} \+.=0A=0A=0A-----= -------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 9=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:14:35 = +0000 (UTC)=0AFrom: Walter Hurry =0ASubject: FreeBSD= 9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMess= age-ID: =0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset= =3DUTF-8=0A=0AFirstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am qu= ite new to =0AFreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everythi= ng in FreeBSD =0Ais fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the= (USB) mouse to =0Awork.=0A=0AI have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but= to no avail.=0A=0AThis is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.=0A=0AI don= 't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.=0A=0AHere is my xorg.= conf in its entirety:=0A=0A##################################=0ASection "Se= rverLayout"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XFree86 Configured"= =0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 "Screen0" 0 0=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0" "CorePointer"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Inpu= tDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Clone" "off"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "ServerFl= ags"=0AOption=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0AEndSectio= n=0A=0ASection "Files"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModulePath=C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/xo= rg/modules"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/font= s/Liberation/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/f= onts/LinLibertineG/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib= /X11/fonts/OTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11= /fonts/TTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fon= ts/bitstream-vera/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/= X11/fonts/dejavu/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X= 11/fonts/URW/"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Module"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ddc"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "dbe"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 "extmod"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevice"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I= dentifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "keyboard"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "= XkbModel" "pc105"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbLa= yout" "gb"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevice"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifi= er=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= "mouse"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Protocol" "au= to"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Device" "/dev/sysmo= use"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Monitor"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Vendor= "=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModelName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Model"=0AEndSectio= n=0A=0A=0ASection "ServerLayout"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "= XFree86 Configured"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 "Scr= een0" 0 0=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0" "CorePointer"= =0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Clone" "off"=0AEndSection=0A= =0ASection "ServerFlags"=0AOption=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevic= es" "On"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Files"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModulePath=C2=A0= "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/us= r/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "= /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/u= sr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Module"=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ddc"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0= Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "dbe"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "extmod"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevic= e"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Dri= ver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "keyboard"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbModel" "pc105"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbLayout" "gb"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevice"=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "mouse"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "Protocol" "auto"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Monitor"=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Vendor"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModelName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "Monitor Model"=0AEndSection=0A=0A=0ASection "Device"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I= dentifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Card0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "radeonh= d"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Radeon Video Driver"=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AccelMethod" "EXA"=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "DRI" "true"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = BusID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "PCI:1:5:0"=0AEndSection=0A=0A=0ASe= ction "Screen"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Screen0"=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Device=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Card0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monitor= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 DefaultDepth=C2=A0 = 24=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 SubSection=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Display"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Depth=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 24 =0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mode= s=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "1366x768"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 EndSubSection=0AEndSection= =0A##################################=0A=0Aand here are the relevant Xorg.0= .log messages:=0A=0A##################################=0A(EE) config/hal: c= ouldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)=0A(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Can= not open device /dev/psm0=0A(EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device=0A(EE= ) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceR= equest failed (8)=0A((WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd= ', 'mouse' or =0A'vmmouse' will be disabled.=0A(WW) Disabling Mouse0=0A(WW)= Disabling Keyboard0=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one= ...=0A(WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb M= ouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device s= pecified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking= for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW= ) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No D= evice specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, = looking for one...=0A##################################=0A=0ACan anyone ass= ist with this?=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 10= =0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200=0AFrom: Bernt Hansson =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: Walt= er Hurry =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMess= age-ID: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; char= set=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0A=0A2012-06-06 01:14, Walter Hurry skrev= :=0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new = to=0A> FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in F= reeBSD=0A> is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB)= mouse to=0A> work.=0A>=0A> I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but t= o no avail.=0A>=0A> This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.=0A>=0A> I= don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.=0A>=0A> Here is m= y xorg.conf in its entirety:=0A>=0A> ##################################=0A>= Section "ServerLayout"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "X= Free86 Configured"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2= =A0 "Screen0" 0 0=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"= "CorePointer"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0"= "CoreKeyboard"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = "Clone" "off"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "ServerFlags"=0A> Option=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0A=0ASet this to off.=0A=0A> E= ndSection=0A>=0A> Section "Files"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModulePath=C2=A0 = "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPat= h=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"=0A>=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-v= era/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fo= nts/dejavu/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib= /X11/fonts/URW/"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "Module"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ddc"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "dbe"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 L= oad=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "extmod"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Sect= ion "InputDevice"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 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EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "Monitor"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Vend= orName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Vendor"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModelName=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Model"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A>=0A> Section "Devic= e"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Card0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "radeonhd"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 V= endorName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Radeon Video Driver"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Optio= n=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AccelMethod" "EXA"=0A>=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "DRI" "true"=0A>=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BusID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "PCI:1:5:0"=0A> EndSe= ction=0A>=0A>=0A> Section "Screen"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0= =C2=A0 "Screen0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Device=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "Card0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monitor=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mo= nitor0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 DefaultDepth=C2=A0 24=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 SubSection=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Display"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Depth=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 24=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mode= s=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "1366x768"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 EndSubSection=0A> = EndSection=0A> ##################################=0A>=0A> and here are the = relevant Xorg.0.log messages:=0A>=0A> ##################################=0A= > (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)=0A> (E= E) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0=0A> (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot= open input device=0A> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"=0A> (EE)= config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> ((WW) AllowEmptyInput is = on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or=0A> 'vmmouse' will be disabled.= =0A> (WW) Disabling Mouse0=0A> (WW) Disabling Keyboard0=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse:= No Device specified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device spe= cified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking= for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A>= (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse= : No Device specified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device spe= cified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking= for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A>= ##################################=0A>=0A> Can anyone assist with this?=0A= >=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questions= @freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fre= ebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsu= bscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMe= ssage: 11=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:26:24 +0000 (UTC)=0AFrom: Walter Hurry= =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to = work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: =0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Tue, 05 Jun = 2012 23:14:35 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote:=0A=0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a= bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to=0A> FreeBSD (though fairly exp= erienced at Linux). Almost everything in=0A> FreeBSD is fine, except that n= o matter what I try I cannot get the (USB)=0A> mouse to work.=0A> =0A> Can = anyone assist with this?=0A> =0A=0AOne bit of information which might be re= levant:=0A=0AThis is a laptop with a built-in touchpad. The touchpad works,= even =0Athough I have made no configuration changes for it. Unfortunately,= as I =0Asaid, the mouse doesn't.=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------= =0A=0AMessage: 12=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT)=0AFrom: Warr= en Block =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mous= e to work=0ATo: Walter Hurry =0ACc: freebsd-question= s@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: =0AContent-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=3Dflowed; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0A=0AOn T= ue, 5 Jun 2012, Walter Hurry wrote:=0A=0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit = of a newbie question. I am quite new to=0A> FreeBSD (though fairly experien= ced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD=0A> is fine, except that no mat= ter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to=0A> work.=0A>=0A> I have sco= ured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail.=0A>=0A> This is 9.0-RELEAS= E on amd64 - fully updated.=0A>=0A> I don't need the mouse in consoles, but= I do want it in X.=0A>=0A> Here is my xorg.conf in its entirety:=0A=0ATher= e are duplicated sections in the output provided.=0A=0A> ##################= ################=0A> Section "ServerLayout"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "XFree86 Configured"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0=C2=A0 "Screen0" 0 0=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0= " "CorePointer"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "Core= Keyboard"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Clone" "off"= =0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "ServerFlags"=0A> Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0A> EndSection=0A=0ASetting AutoAddDevice= s on means to use HAL for mouse detection.=C2=A0 Is HAL =0Arunning?=0A=0AOn= one notebook, I had to set moused_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf before = =0Aboth the touchpad and an external mouse would work.=0A=0A=0A------------= ------------------=0A=0AMessage: 13=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 = (EDT)=0AFrom: Chris Hill =0ASubject: Re: Is this some= thing we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of= ?=0ATo: G?k?in Akdeniz =0ACc: Bruce Cran , Kurt Buff ,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 FreeBSD = Questions =0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AContent-Type: TEXT/= PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Dflowed=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in = Akdeniz wrote:=0A=0A> For the time being only ARM platform is restricted.= =0A=0ATrue, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded= by =0AMS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal= is =0Ato add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses mos= t or =0Aall desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of yea= rs.=0A=0A-- =0AChris Hill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c= hris@monochrome.org=0A**=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ Busy Expunging ]=0A=0A=0A----------------------= --------=0A=0AMessage: 14=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:33:58 -0400=0AFrom: Mi= ke Jeays =0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as co= nsumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: <20120605213358.5047d683@europa>=0ACon= tent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 = -0400 (EDT)=0AChris Hill wrote:=0A=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun= 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote:=0A> =0A> > For the time being only ARM platfor= m is restricted.=0A> =0A> True, but I would be astonished if this restricti= on were not expanded by =0A> MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I belie= ve their ultimate goal is =0A> to add platforms until the "secure boot" res= triction encompasses most or =0A> all desktop and server hardware. This wou= ld be over a period of years.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Chris Hill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 chris@monochrome.org=0A> **=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ Busy Expunging <= /> ]=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/= freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-u= nsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AThis seems all too likely to me. I expect it w= ill become very hard to find a consumer laptop that will run other operatin= g systems in a few years. There won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one ca= n be pretty sure. It will be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive futu= re.=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 15=0ADate: Tue, 5 = Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700=0AFrom: Waitman Gobble =0ASubj= ect: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 aware=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of?=0ATo: Mike Jeays =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 =0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A=0AOn Jun 5, 2012 6:= 35 PM, "Mike Jeays" wrote:=0A>=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun 20= 12 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT)=0A> Chris Hill wrote:=0A>=0A= > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote:=0A> >=0A> > > For the time be= ing only ARM platform is restricted.=0A> >=0A> > True, but I would be aston= ished if this restriction were not expanded by=0A> > MS in the future. Just= my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is=0A> > to add platforms un= til the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or=0A> > all desktop and= server hardware. This would be over a period of years.=0A> >=0A> > --=0A> = > Chris Hill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 chris@monochro= me.org=0A> > **=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 [ Busy Expunging ]=0A> > __________________________________= _____________=0A> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> > http:/= /lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe,= send any mail to "=0Afreebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A> Th= is seems all too likely to me. I expect it will become very hard to=0Afind = a consumer laptop that will run other operating systems in a few=0Ayears. T= here won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one can be pretty sure.=0AIt will= be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive future.=0A> _________________= ______________________________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing li= st=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To u= nsubscribe, send any mail to "=0Afreebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =0A=0AI understand there are only a few (like two) monster-sized computer= =0Amanufacturers, which are based in China, who manufacture the massive bul= k=0Aof "consumer" laptops. the name brand models in the local retail store = are=0Aalmost always these ODM computers with a preloaded hard drive and a f= ancy=0Alabel w/ insignia slapped on the shell. One may purchase a "Generic"= laptop=0Ato spec (without any MS stuff installed, if you so desire), for a= =0Asingle-unit competitive price.=0A=0Afor example search "compal" ...=0A= =0Ai'm curious how the restricted boot scheme will come into play in these = "no=0Aflashy labels" portable machines.=0A=0AWaitman Gobble=0ASan Jose Cali= fornia USA=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 16=0ADate: = Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:21:53 +0000 (UTC)=0AFrom: Walter Hurry =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: =0AConte= nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +020= 0, Bernt Hansson wrote:=0A>> Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDev= ices" "On"=0A> =0A> Set this to off.=0A> =0AThanks for the reply. Yes, I've= tried setting it to "Off", but there is =0Ano apparent difference; only a = new set of messages in Xorg.0.log:=0A=0A(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialis= e context: unknown error (null)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest fa= iled (8)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(EE) config/= hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequ= est failed (8)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(EE) c= onfig/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(WW) Mouse0: No Device specif= ied, looking for one...=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMess= age: 17=0ADate: 6 Jun 2012 02:05:14 -0000=0AFrom: Scott Ballantyne =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: Walter H= urry =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-= ID: <20120606020514.8485.qmail@irelay.ssr.com>=0A=0AWalter Hurry writes:=0A=0A> =0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newb= ie question. I am quite new to =0A> FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at L= inux). Almost everything in FreeBSD =0A> is fine, except that no matter wha= t I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to =0A> work.=0A> =0A> I have scoured = the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail.=0A> =0A> This is 9.0-RELEASE on= amd64 - fully updated.=0A> =0A> I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I = do want it in X.=0A> =0A=0AThe clue here is 'fully updated'. The latest hal= d has a bug that keeps=0Athe mouse from working. If you look in your X.org.= 0.log you may find=0Aa section which says that /dev/ums, configured by hal,= is busy, and=0Aunloads the mouse. If you don't find that, then ignore the = rest of=0Athis email :)=0A=0AThere are various "solutions" to this, one is = to disable the auto=0Aconfigure, and add the configuration for both keyboar= d and mouse to=0Athe .conf file.=C2=A0 Another is to restart dbus and hald.= You can switch=0Ato a console window from X and run this command:=0A=0A/us= r/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart=0A=0AIf t= hat fixes it, then you can automate it by putting something like=0Athis in = /usr/local/etc/rc.d , call it haldfixbug or something like=0Athat:=0A=0A---= -------=0A#!/bin/sh=0A#=0A# PROVIDE: HALD_FIX_BUG=0A# REQUIRE: hald dbus=0A= #=0A=0A[ "$1" =3D start ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local= /etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED"=0A[ "$1" =3D f= aststart ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald = restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED"=0Asleep 5=0Aexit 0=0A--------= -----=0A=0AThis might not work if you use startx, but should be ok with xdm= or=0Agdm. It works for me, maybe not for you.=0A=0ABest,=0AScott=0A-- =0As= db@ssr.com=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 18=0ADate: = Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:55:08 +0700=0AFrom: Erich =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-ques= tions@freebsd.org=0ACc: Walter Hurry =0AMessage-ID: = <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset= =3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHi=0A=0AI have had success on my hardware with this sett= ing:=0A=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The working co= nfiguration. The mouse daemon in /etc/rc.conf=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 was dsabled.=0A#=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Section "ServerLayout"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = "X.org Configured"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 "Screen0" 0 0= =0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0" "CorePointer"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 EndSection=0A#=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Section "ServerFlags"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 "AllowEmptyInput"=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "false"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices"=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "false"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = EndSection=0A=0ATurning off the mouse daemon was the key on that hardware.= =0A=0AThe same xorg settings needed the mouse daemon turned on on other har= dware.=0A=0AGood luck!=0A=0AErich=0A=0AOn 06 June 2012 2:21:53 Walter Hurry= wrote:=0A> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:=0A> >>= Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0A> > =0A> > Set = this to off.=0A> > =0A> Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to= "Off", but there is =0A> no apparent difference; only a new set of message= s in Xorg.0.log:=0A> =0A> (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unk= nown error (null)=0A> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A>= (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (EE) config/hal: New= InputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest fa= iled (8)=0A> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (EE) con= fig/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (WW) Mouse0: No Device specif= ied, looking for one...=0A> =0A> __________________________________________= _____=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freeb= sd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail= to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A---------= ---------------------=0A=0AMessage: 19=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:59:48 -07= 00=0AFrom: Waitman Gobble =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I= can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-I= D:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A=0AO= n Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Scott Ballantyne wrote:=0A=0A>= =C2=A0 Walter Hurry writes:=0A>=0A> >=0A> > Firstly= , sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to=0A> > Free= BSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in=0A> FreeBSD= =0A> > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mou= se to=0A> > work.=0A> >=0A> > I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but= to no avail.=0A> >=0A> > This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.=0A>= >=0A> > I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.=0A> >= =0A>=0A> The clue here is 'fully updated'. The latest hald has a bug that k= eeps=0A> the mouse from working. If you look in your X.org.0.log you may fi= nd=0A> a section which says that /dev/ums, configured by hal, is busy, and= =0A> unloads the mouse. If you don't find that, then ignore the rest of=0A>= this email :)=0A>=0A> There are various "solutions" to this, one is to dis= able the auto=0A> configure, and add the configuration for both keyboard an= d mouse to=0A> the .conf file.=C2=A0 Another is to restart dbus and hald. Y= ou can switch=0A> to a console window from X and run this command:=0A>=0A> = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart=0A>=0A= > If that fixes it, then you can automate it by putting something like=0A> = this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d , call it haldfixbug or something like=0A> that= :=0A>=0A> ----------=0A> #!/bin/sh=0A> #=0A> # PROVIDE: HALD_FIX_BUG=0A> # = REQUIRE: hald dbus=0A> #=0A>=0A> [ "$1" =3D start ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/= dbus restart &&=0A> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG= FIX ATTEMPTED"=0A> [ "$1" =3D faststart ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus rest= art &&=0A> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTE= MPTED"=0A> sleep 5=0A> exit 0=0A> -------------=0A>=0A> This might not work= if you use startx, but should be ok with xdm or=0A> gdm. It works for me, = maybe not for you.=0A>=0A> Best,=0A> Scott=0A> --=0A> sdb@ssr.com=0A> _____= __________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.or= g mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi= ons=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "=0A> freebsd-questions-unsubscrib= e@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A=0Ai'll give that a try. After updating a couple of da= ys ago the mouse is=0Aglued to the center of the screen after starting X. I= noticed if i first=0Akill moused before startx it works fine. (moused appa= rently restarts). But=0Amaybe this solution will end the work-around.=0A=0A= Waitman Gobble=0ASan Jose California USA=0A=0A=0A--------------------------= ----=0A=0AMessage: 20=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:35:14 +0700=0AFrom: Erich= Dollansky =0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can= 't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ACc: Waitman G= obble =0AMessage-ID: <1529132.jI8PiRModA@x220.ovitrap.= com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AOn 05 J= une 2012 19:59:48 Waitman Gobble wrote:=0A> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM,= Scott Ballantyne wrote:=0A> =0A=0A> i'll give that a try. Af= ter updating a couple of days ago the mouse is=0A> glued to the center of t= he screen after starting X. I noticed if i first=0A> kill moused before sta= rtx it works fine. (moused apparently restarts). But=0A> maybe this solutio= n will end the work-around.=0A> =0AI came to this the same way. X stopped w= orking with the mouse after an upgrade many, many years ago.=0A=0AIf it hap= pens again, I play with the parameters in there.=0A=0AI have read that othe= r people also played with HAL but I never needed so.=0A=0AErich=0A=0A=0A---= ---------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 21=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:32= :02 +0100=0AFrom: Matthew Seaman =0ASubject: Re: Is th= is something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 a= ware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD =0ACc: Jerry =0AMessage-ID: <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org>=0AContent-Type: = text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"=0A=0AOn 05/06/2012 23:10, Jerry wrote:=0A> I = thought this URL also shown=0A> ab= ove, answered that question.=0A=0ASigning bootloaders and kernels etc. seem= s superficially like a good=0Aidea to me.=C2=A0 However, instant reaction i= s that this is definitely *not*=0Asomething that Microsoft should be in cha= rge of.=C2=A0 Some neutral[*] body=0Awithout any commercial interests shoul= d do that job, and=0Abootloader/kernel signing should be freely available.= =0A=0AOn deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkabl= e.=0AIt means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or=0Adri= vers unless you have access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building your own=0A= is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is=0A= that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use.=0A=0A= Which completely abrogates the whole point of signing=0Abootloaders/kernels= in the first place: anyone wishing to create malware=0Awould be able to si= gn whatever they want using such a key.=C2=A0 It's=0ADRM-level stupidity al= l over again.=0A=0AMy conclusion: boycott products, manufacturers and/or OS= es that=0Aparticipate in this scheme.=C2=A0 FreeBSD alone won't make any re= al=0Adifference to manufacturers, but I hope there is still enough of the= =0Aoriginal spirit of freedom within the Linux camp, and perhaps from=0AGoo= gle/android to make an impact.=0A=0AI'm pretty sure there can be a way of w= hitelisting bootloaders and so=0Aforth to help prevent low-level malware, b= ut this isn't it.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Cheers,=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 M= atthew=0A=0A[*] I suggest ICANN might be the right sort of organization to = fulfil=0Athis role.=0A=0A-- =0ADr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.=0APGP: http:= //www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey=0A=0A=0A-------------- next part ------= --------=0AA non-text attachment was scrubbed...=0AName: signature.asc=0ATy= pe: application/pgp-signature=0ASize: 267 bytes=0ADesc: OpenPGP digital sig= nature=0AUrl : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachm= ents/20120606/9d4665e5/signature-0001.pgp=0A=0A----------------------------= --=0A=0AMessage: 22=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:45:05 +0100=0AFrom: Bruce C= ran =0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers o= f FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: Matthew Seaman <= matthew@FreeBSD.org>=0ACc: Jerry , FreeBSD=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 =0AMessage-ID: <4FCF1891.9020006@c= ran.org.uk>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed=0A= =0AOn 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A> On deeper thought though,= the whole idea appears completely unworkable.=0A>=C2=A0 It means that you= will not be able to compile your own kernel or=0A> drivers unless you have= access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building your own=0A> is pretty fundamen= tal to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is=0A> that FreeBSD sou= rce should come with a signing key for anyone to use.=0A=0AIt just means th= at anyone wishing to run their own kernels would either =0Aneed to disable = secure boot, or purchase/create their own certificate =0Aand install it.=0A= =0A-- =0ABruce Cran=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 23= =0ADate: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200=0AFrom: Ewald Jenisch =0ASubject: isc-dhcpd - logging client transactions=0ATo: =0AMessage-ID: <20120606090233.GA3748@aurora.oekb.co.at>=0AC= ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AI've set up isc= -dhcpd (/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp42-server). The daemon=0Aruns, hands out IP-= addresses however logging doesn't seem to work.=0A=0AHere's what I've got i= n the respective config-files:=0A=0A/etc/rc.conf:=0A# dhcpd=0Adhcpd_enable= =3D"YES"=0Adhcpd_conf=3D"/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf"=0Adhcpd_ifaces=3D"em0"= =0Adhcpd_withumask=3D"022"=0Adhcpd_chuser_enable=3D"YES"=0Adhcpd_withuser= =3D"dhcpd"=0Adhcpd_withgroup=3D"dhcpd"=0Adhcpd_chroot_enable=3D"YES"=0Adhcp= d_devfs_enable=3D"YES"=0Adhcpd_rootdir=3D"/var/db/dhcpd"=0A=0A/usr/local/et= c/dhcpd.conf:=0A...=0Alog-facility local7;=0A=0A/etc/syslog.conf:=0Alocal7.= *=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /var/log/dhcpd.log= =0A=0A=0A/var/log/dhcpd.log is "touch"ed, so it exists.=0A=0AAlso restarted= syslogd and isc-dhcpd.=0A=0A=0AResult: dhcpd works (i.e. I see entries in = the leases-file=0A(/var/db/dhcpd/var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases) however nothing= is logged to=0A/var/log/dhcpd.log.=0A=0AI can rule out any error with sysl= ogd.conf since when I start isc-dhcp=0A"by hand" (/usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -d)= I get an error message - and this=0Aone is definitely logged to /var/log/d= hcpd.log.=0A=0AWhat I really need though is a log of all the DHCP-transacti= ons,=0Ai.e. DHCP-requests, address assignments etc.=0A=0AThanks much in adv= ance for your help,=0A-ewald=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMe= ssage: 24=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:41 +0100=0AFrom: Matthew Seaman =0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of Fr= eeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: Bruce Cran =0ACc: Jerry , FreeBSD=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =0AMessage-ID: <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org= >=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"=0A=0AOn 06/06/2012 09:45, B= ruce Cran wrote:=0A> On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A>> On dee= per thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable.=0A>>=C2= =A0 It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or=0A>> = drivers unless you have access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building your own= =0A>> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence= is=0A>> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to u= se.=0A=0A> It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would= either=0A> need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own certi= ficate=0A> and install it.=0A=0AIndeed.=C2=A0 However disabling secure boot= is apparently:=0A=0A=C2=A0 * too difficult for users of Fedora=0A=0A=C2= =A0 * not possible on all platforms (arm based tablets especially)=0A=0Aan= d purchasing your own certificate currently means paying $99 to=0AMicrosoft= , or else getting a key from the hardware manufacturer (which I=0Avery much= suspect will not be free either).=0A=0AWhile I would expect the typical Fr= eeBSD user to be quite capable of=0Adisabling secure boot, I know that this= is something that will result in=0Arealms of questions by new users, alarm= ist claims that "FreeBSD is not=0Asecure" and general glee amongst the "Fre= eBSD is dying" crowd.=0A=0AThis is just another misconceived DRM scheme and= suffers from all the=0Asame old flaws.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Cheers,=0A= =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Matthew=0A=0A-- =0ADr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.=0A= PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey=0A=0A=0A-------------- next p= art --------------=0AA non-text attachment was scrubbed...=0AName: signatur= e.asc=0AType: application/pgp-signature=0ASize: 267 bytes=0ADesc: OpenPGP d= igital signature=0AUrl : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questio= ns/attachments/20120606/7544b4d4/signature-0001.pgp=0A=0A------------------= ------------=0A=0AMessage: 25=0ADate: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700=0AFrom= : Mehmet Erol Sanliturk =0ASubject: Re: Is this so= mething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of?=0ATo: Matthew Seaman =0ACc: Bru= ce Cran , Jerry ,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 FreeBSD =0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 =0A= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:38 = AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A=0A> On 06/06/2012 09:45,= Bruce Cran wrote:=0A> > On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A> >> = On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable.=0A>= >>=C2=A0 It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or= =0A> >> drivers unless you have access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building = your own=0A> >> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical c= onsequence is=0A> >> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for= anyone to use.=0A>=0A> > It just means that anyone wishing to run their ow= n kernels would either=0A> > need to disable secure boot, or purchase/creat= e their own certificate=0A> > and install it.=0A>=0A> Indeed.=C2=A0 However= disabling secure boot is apparently:=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 * too difficult for us= ers of Fedora=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 * not possible on all platforms (arm based tab= lets especially)=0A>=0A> and purchasing your own certificate currently mean= s paying $99 to=0A> Microsoft, or else getting a key from the hardware manu= facturer (which I=0A> very much suspect will not be free either).=0A>=0A> W= hile I would expect the typical FreeBSD user to be quite capable of=0A> dis= abling secure boot, I know that this is something that will result in=0A> r= ealms of questions by new users, alarmist claims that "FreeBSD is not=0A> s= ecure" and general glee amongst the "FreeBSD is dying" crowd.=0A>=0A> This = is just another misconceived DRM scheme and suffers from all the=0A> same o= ld flaws.=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cheers,=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Matthew=0A>=0A> --=0A> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.=0A> PG= P: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.= infoworld.com/t/hacking/tech-behind-flame-attack-could-compromise-microsoft= -update-194867=0A=0A=0AThank you very much .=0A=0AMehmet Erol Sanliturk=0A= =0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 26=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2= 012 01:37:18 +0200=0AFrom: "Julian H. Stacey" =0ASubject: = Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 aware=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of? =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions =0AMessage-ID: <201206052338.q55NbIWr062787@fire.js.berklix.net>= =0A=0Ajerrymc@msu.edu wrote:=0A> Quoting Kurt Buff := =0A> =0A> > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kern= el binaries=0A> > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/56557= 3/0/=0A> >=0A> > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult.= =0A> >=0A> =0A> I don't see how this MS scam is even at all legal.=0A> It i= s clearly restraint of trade and probably violates some other=0A> related l= aws too.=0A=0AA shame Bush blocked dismembering monopolist Microsoft.=C2=A0= =0AThe last enormous fines Microsoft paid the EU for monopoly abuse,=0Apre= sumably failed to discipline Microsoft. =0A=0ATime for increased fines, til= l Microsoft stops abusing its monooly.=0AWould be nice if the fines were so= high it forced a free recall by=0Ahardware vendors to fix, if it can't be = fixed with a UEFI net upgrade.=0A=0ACheers,=0AJulian=0A-- =0AJulian Stacey,= BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com=0AReply bel= ow not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ".=0AFormat: = Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable.=0A= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix.=C2=A0 http://berklix.o= rg/yahoo/=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 27=0ADate: W= ed, 6 Jun 2012 06:24:37 -0400=0AFrom: Jerry =0ASubject= : Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD =0AMessage= -ID: <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset= =3D"utf-8"=0A=0AOn Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:41 +0100=0AMatthew Seaman articul= ated:=0A=0A>On 06/06/2012 09:45, Bruce Cran wrote:=0A>> On 06/06/2012 08:32= , Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A>>> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appe= ars completely=0A>>> unworkable. It means that you will not be able to comp= ile your own=0A>>> kernel or drivers unless you have access to a signing ke= y.=C2=A0 As=0A>>> building your own is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD pr= oject, the=0A>>> logical consequence is that FreeBSD source should come wit= h a=0A>>> signing key for anyone to use.=0A>=0A>> It just means that anyone= wishing to run their own kernels would=0A>> either need to disable secure = boot, or purchase/create their own=0A>> certificate and install it.=0A>=0A>= Indeed.=C2=A0 However disabling secure boot is apparently:=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 *= too difficult for users of Fedora=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 * not possible on all pla= tforms (arm based tablets especially)=0A>=0A>and purchasing your own certif= icate currently means paying $99 to=0A>Microsoft, or else getting a key fro= m the hardware manufacturer (which=0A>I very much suspect will not be free = either).=0A=0AI think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read= The $99=0Agoes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign= as=0Amany binaries as you want.=0A=0A>While I would expect the typical Fre= eBSD user to be quite capable of=0A>disabling secure boot, I know that this= is something that will result=0A>in realms of questions by new users, alar= mist claims that "FreeBSD is=0A>not secure" and general glee amongst the "F= reeBSD is dying" crowd.=0A>=0A>This is just another misconceived DRM scheme= and suffers from all the=0A>same old flaws.=0A=0AI don't feel this is misc= onceived at all. Again, from what I have read,=0Amost non-Microsoft operati= ng systems have been able to use UEFI Secure=0ABoot for nearly eight years;= however, they have actively refused to do=0Aso. However, now Microsoft has= stepped up to the plate and is=0Aactively taking advantage of the scheme. = Actually, Microsoft has been=0Aissuing warnings for ten years when a user w= ould attempt to install=0Aunsigned drivers. Now the FOSS community is getti= ng its knickers in a=0Aknot. They should have taken this into account a lon= g time ago. In any=0Acase, we are talking $99 dollars total, not per user h= ere for the=0Acertificate. If that is going to cause a problem, I'll donate= the $99.=0AIn any case, the real problem appears to be how FreeBSD is goin= g to=0Ahandle drivers which apparently will need to be signed since they wo= rk=0Aat the kernel level. Apparently Fedora has a working solution for that= =0Aall ready.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry =E2=99=94=0A=0ADisclaimer: off-list followup= s get on-list replies or get ignored.=0APlease do not ignore the Reply-To h= eader.=0A__________________________________________________________________= =0A=0A-------------- next part --------------=0AA non-text attachment was s= crubbed...=0AName: signature.asc=0AType: application/pgp-signature=0ASize: = 488 bytes=0ADesc: not available=0AUrl : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/= freebsd-questions/attachments/20120606/4bf1d8b5/signature-0001.pgp=0A=0A---= ---------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 28=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:38= :51 +0100=0AFrom: Bruce Cran =0ASubject: Re: Is this som= ething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware o= f?=0ATo: FreeBSD =0ACc: Jerry =0AMessage-ID: <4FCF333B.9030402@cran.org.uk>=0AContent-Type: text/p= lain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed=0A=0AOn 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrot= e:=0A>=0A> They should have taken this into account a long time ago. In any= =0A> case, we are talking $99 dollars total, not per user here for the=0A> = certificate. If that is going to cause a problem, I'll donate the $99.=0A= =0AIt's not the $99 that'll be the problem, but the fact that it's Verisign= =0A(actually Symantec, since they bought Verisign) that you deal with. =0A= Whereas Globalsign accept applications from individuals, Verisign =0Arequir= e company documents before they'll generate a certificate.=0A=0A-- =0ABruce= Cran=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0A_________________________= ______________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp:= //lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, se= nd any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AEnd of free= bsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7=0A**********************************= *************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 11:36:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53C610656F5 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581D08FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so5607636yhg.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:36:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type; bh=gCHE671SOAQ4dDmLevo1tNU6AAWxt5mGjz5omAj/tt4=; b=SuZ7/V2aSbeSyo8Fmxhb6XKeCWg0Drz37XSpIkOKHKT3vCgT4pLjTVQzQuRBww47Zf gxoeJe6aQcN41H+12G661Hni2F1H2xPiZvtp2iLrpUOQjE5QxI1XgpIpph3nWZ5Fihkc io3pcWbq1NqLHVqFd2PoOYkp4snonYZPuFU6k= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=gCHE671SOAQ4dDmLevo1tNU6AAWxt5mGjz5omAj/tt4=; b=LF9Iyg4z4PL17NPkISVU2CRuYwUtLU20DZx9gLQkfWz8IzbctrY8Uww4wcnMf/Af25 wiPv3H1QMcdR31JCLi719DTY9a6FZUyRLgfBZL5pv+CEWDZEZGqdjQRLYQmN7Y2beEwq 4q2MLOIJWcSjhWfXK7Mcf69vva7koc2PIk66zdCFKXfm6nbQ6puPK1jU1ncS8XFP79MG u3MWBr5Q3oBH4wMYTrHJBgHayhf9KG4KK/jYUT/z4Jc0MtdtowjMkyB4jwc7UWs0UKsT 0kvrrTSS3+edtCY734LPtNUzlkygkqgX8Q0E56y8nYmlMo+tviiC1iRyl2VDjUY2myJu ABaw== Received: by 10.236.192.162 with SMTP id i22mr9016457yhn.83.1338982593814; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:36:40 -0000 --Sig_/X0QOGC0vcsF70b22xt7z5jp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100 Matthew Seaman articulated: >On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: >> I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 >> goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as >> many binaries as you want. > >Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the >point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to >run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > >$99 as a one-off payment might seem a trivial cost to you, so much so >that you rather rashly promised to pay that for anyone. I won't hold >you to it. Even so, there are several thousand readers of this list. >I doubt even you could afford to subsidise very many of them... The $99 was for FreeBSD to deliver the OS, not per user. This is clearly explained in the various URLs listed in this thread. I am sorry if you misunderstood. Of course if a user wants to recompile the kernel, etcetera after having downloaded and installed it from FreeBSD or one of its subsidies, they are on their own. Seriously though, a one time payment of $99 is so trivial I find it hard to believe that anyone is actually bitching about it. I pay many times that amount for golf every month. >Yes UEFI Secure Boot may have been around for 8 years. The fact that >no one has adopted use of it in all that time speaks volumes. I don't want to get in an argument with you Matthew since you are one of the few on this list that I feel actually thinks before they speak and knows what they are talking about; however, the real reason, in my opinion, is that no one carefully considered the consequences of it. It is a great idea, it offers greater security and again from what I have read it can be disabled by the end user if the vendor so allows. Microsoft does not control the vendors right to allow or disallow that action. In any event, it won't belong before some hacker comes up with a way to circumvent the entire process anyway, In my opinion, so why worry about it. Most FreeBSD users do not use state of the art equipment anyway, so it may be years before they even come up against this problem. By then it will all be ironed out. --=20 Jerry =E2=99=94 Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ --Sig_/X0QOGC0vcsF70b22xt7z5jp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPz0C+AAoJEF2rWD2do7dNJj4H/jR1DHyC3qkAEOxTaXKS+b0j Yxsjl5ZrLCns6YgluLUFR34fsy9DJfyzvxNU1Hr2AFaDVvzwcndsC1ODNgwQO55T pCEnLYtCbhvCP9JETF4g0gS3whbRTp54lryewVc+hqZZcfc8O9vw5qCnFOTediSU DkPFersUYm5x5KiqtuvRpkDDF6YW+QAmuo5yvL8v92zUcEIgs8K6XxVpYVeLgKhN TybovuZfhNtmIVMXwhVcT5wlXjPcZVypsOKLjp0rZdEkphiOYFIPzi/7xcgqgCH0 74s7FAUNgfnJHk12sPxta0eGIqF03GkkQXp+w9cZzGPAjTvfgH+DFotpWcUVOsw= =+r5h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/X0QOGC0vcsF70b22xt7z5jp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 11:59:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82B8106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A24A8FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2535528eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:59:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=TyKl3RyYY5l+uX0jn8zVYjCi+rfUNHad52WLHs3rC4Y=; b=GoQ++CkazBobjwV/5RSO2i+fWXwAOEWYIyouFn6QAnivucxRnbwvq2I2FOasVEq+Ur /eBMAKpnkR5Z7VvAFJxchO0XX+/X/4MkwjReG6FpSn1OA6PgnkL/1Zbtxu0hmwMieqvt c3WVxcaS8DseSq6RJneqSMCl9Vyz+O75vWWBW1Q45nRIllm92opMsw5VF8W/9FwU2yHL 03jTMaP0aPJ/RgSaEihnqboUKs3TuZhL0P0rLI80aLxE/OrGA4bQlMT2LE6ZZQ0tkcj/ TCyPxKJy1+uN84X4UAV78pa66PpargxQ3zZ+8aS537XRkZB9mvhZI+XuzMcbQL4zbUYZ Y7Uw== Received: by 10.14.96.70 with SMTP id q46mr9092194eef.231.1338983973173; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p41sm5651146eef.5.2012.06.06.04.59.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF4622.9010502@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:59:30 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120606073624.5f7c3f53@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120606073624.5f7c3f53@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQliH/ShFNjTTxsOxuLim/xkpkaHedLN9hSKR61oZ3ZQ4j5o9jycmkHCSkIPqFOH/0at2kQN Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:59:35 -0000 On 6/6/12 1:36 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100 > Matthew Seaman articulated: > >> On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: >>> I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 >>> goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as >>> many binaries as you want. >> >> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the >> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to >> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? >> >> $99 as a one-off payment might seem a trivial cost to you, so much so >> that you rather rashly promised to pay that for anyone. I won't hold >> you to it. Even so, there are several thousand readers of this list. >> I doubt even you could afford to subsidise very many of them... > > The $99 was for FreeBSD to deliver the OS, not per user. This is > clearly explained in the various URLs listed in this thread. I am sorry > if you misunderstood. Of course if a user wants to recompile the > kernel, etcetera after having downloaded and installed it from FreeBSD > or one of its subsidies, they are on their own. Seriously though, a > one time payment of $99 is so trivial I find it hard to believe that > anyone is actually bitching about it. I pay many times that amount for > golf every month. > Look Jerry, Are you serious there ? Having to pay to use a different OS on hardware that you own ? What next, non-approved keyboard, $40 extra ? Non-approved mouse, $30, non-approved USB external drive, $80 ? Don't take it personally but it's people like you willing to bend the knee that encourage such abuse as we're discussing today. The denial of freedom to do what you want with that piece of hardware you just bought. And no, $99 isn't trivial, it has to be 1/6 the price of a standard PC nowadays. I'm *not* paying extra to install a non-MS-approved-lol-seriously OS. This is nothing short of extortion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:10:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F440106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED078FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56CATkk086096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:10:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:10:23 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:10:29 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q56CATkk086096 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Somewhat OT - A Makefile Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:10:47 -0000 Not strictly FBSD, but ... Within a makefile, I need to assign the name of a program as in: FOO = "bar". The problem is that 'bar' may also be know as, say, "bar.sh". Worse still both "bar" and "bar.sh" can exist with one linked to the other. Is there a simple way to determine which form "bar" or "bar.sh" on on a given system *at the time the make is run*? If both exist, I will pick one arbitrarily, I just don't want the detection mechanism to fail when this is the case. For example I don't think this works when both are there: FOO = $(shell `which bar bar.sh) Thanks, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:23:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4549A1065674 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FB68FC19 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2546556eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=5Il52+MXH43HfTjCH4jbic/quwL0SqMtnk6cfAwM2MA=; b=WGjPtelq3vKtGtZmqiJbC9WT8AO5enyHedK9ywlYYg2q0ZwBbWbSR0+X0mkgkMOw96 To/BUCKQRcpU5fmi05w9538PrpbfUdjgZxUwILZYcSVa9T9Zyo/zYWBhF46QsXIw7eQQ ywyYWIjNzasBeBfWFxDBbAq/hoSYqNJ4V//z/9vTT+ijn3MknO9I1mXj9t7svU5YIncI dD4MSBcReX42gmMbOl0N0Fry63xRsuH/m108DmR6nQwZiAgF3TL1CRJ5daIDXvlw9xps gPuGdA6oG8Nl4eqNTbiviK8qC1iObanvrES1hb/zE8YzoTXPJUuuN/szlNLB7YCPJPgj qrgA== Received: by 10.14.28.130 with SMTP id g2mr9207780eea.131.1338985402920; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n52sm5849591eeh.9.2012.06.06.05.23.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF4BB8.8040703@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:23:20 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmwcsVDUtpbpx0kzIxQ2jFx/mtEHmSoOsNOYlh9QHFPcrYlqlo86zeiulaaGcChMAbn7zbd Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:23:25 -0000 On 6/6/12 9:32 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/06/2012 23:10, Jerry wrote: >> I thought this URL also shown >> above, answered that question. > > Signing bootloaders and kernels etc. seems superficially like a good > idea to me. However, instant reaction is that this is definitely *not* > something that Microsoft should be in charge of. Some neutral[*] body > without any commercial interests should do that job, and > bootloader/kernel signing should be freely available. > > On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable. > It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or > drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own > is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is > that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. > > Which completely abrogates the whole point of signing > bootloaders/kernels in the first place: anyone wishing to create malware > would be able to sign whatever they want using such a key. It's > DRM-level stupidity all over again. > > My conclusion: boycott products, manufacturers and/or OSes that > participate in this scheme. FreeBSD alone won't make any real > difference to manufacturers, but I hope there is still enough of the > original spirit of freedom within the Linux camp, and perhaps from > Google/android to make an impact. > > I'm pretty sure there can be a way of whitelisting bootloaders and so > forth to help prevent low-level malware, but this isn't it. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] I suggest ICANN might be the right sort of organization to fulfil > this role. > I agree with the whole post except that last bit about ICANN Matthew. The US already has enough dominance as is, without involving ICANN, a supposedly neutral body (yeah right...) any further. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:28:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCABE1065670 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D728FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2549102eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:28:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=/XlHwq6gxPXqoz5BwK7xQwGUALjO0uhN6aDXvcB5a2o=; b=l49YbHePAu8eADzbzCn9WE5BR0ddVKDqH5w3Ycc3Nujtiap8np4ecLeHTymjtoiuLx pHUNiTY/5+OecXhOgm1BEMVAzdjgh1lt8B4BOQNpCtgsg7tktmPBfxNJjjHgwkCAV8nO RrlnlP4dWs0UnljzG59DS6/Snx5Bd1N1ds1urDluNVzGcKo6MqfRbzc9e6lQoqqWX+Qa lwTXkmOLazx8msIJ4Igb1Rly3WONamH+FXyMX3iwPxraPNzReSK8pkGesXPJJH4lqpnn NRntQ1btIo4/3aE60WI55hHT0AWWyNCgDwoIPUifXuHEMFqlrvfErg6V9X27uu7dh0yb uz2w== Received: by 10.14.100.71 with SMTP id y47mr8672025eef.190.1338985737401; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t3sm5886894eeb.15.2012.06.06.05.28.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF4D07.4080606@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:28:55 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmxPtnmSvN19K7XtCQdCFweP2Iuwx8mKONm5Gcy9QyRaIga5Eytr5a7y1xNcKssPq1+f6CO Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:28:59 -0000 On 6/6/12 1:19 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 05/06/2012 23:10, Jerry wrote: >>> I thought this URL also shown >>> above, answered that question. >> >> Signing bootloaders and kernels etc. seems superficially like a good >> idea to me. However, instant reaction is that this is definitely *not* >> something that Microsoft should be in charge of. Some neutral[*] body > ... >> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable. >> It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or >> drivers unless you have access to a signing key. As building your own > > You don't need the signing key if you turn off secure boot in the CMOS. > The fedora folk are worried that naive desktop users will not be able to > do that, and usage of linux will be impeded. It won't be a significant > impediment to users capable of compiling their own kernel. > >> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is >> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use. >> >> Which completely abrogates the whole point of signing >> bootloaders/kernels in the first place: anyone wishing to create malware >> would be able to sign whatever they want using such a key. It's >> DRM-level stupidity all over again. > > I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing > key have to keep it secret? Apple keeps it's signing key secret because > it gets a share of revenue from the sale of apps. If the fedora key > became known it wouldn't hurt fedora. Can the UEFI BIOS consult a list > of revoked keys online? That would be surprising. > > dan feenberg Key revoked in the BIOS' next version, which will ship by default on newer hardware. No need for checking online. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 09:06:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2384106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 361BB8FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 09:06:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.234] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 09:06:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 09:06:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 554087.41735.bm@omp1043.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 99400 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2012 09:06:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1338973608; bh=qDVf8WoljXdyXpHYUXZnEc4DYdGu2EISE66i6czrJLs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qp8Nom/4BePH9KqXGLv3RnDkuXhqUg5Q02c7/GtilFh7WcyxwqlEs6BHE9xPVlwseIn/Ug0S0h3hWXtVl0xDsP04YCykrXNIj7E9WsBwuVbsO0jhp0VtrFWyMc5+ZVTxj8rCiJroUW3uE85tEFy8KSKaaqvl9H8qMmE3T2RqiNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uPbi+nhu1jlX5MaPUuhgLWBLGvxuOmcbr9bYJlBFemXDkVXO8T8L8OuQKshYzc4EfELxEfZ+abf9LzwICmyla9gkSTsqnW2DUZlk24MYX5E0A+BQSrLNRaOGjkgBFGhimKq1FXDiFaVPLU2P6mwhgatxRf4vwmG5XPa6NHBtjmw=; X-YMail-OSG: p.Ol5p0VM1mbu5EObd1pI6nMQSJJzqYtEZihTsX7SAAqMFj WBLx3UEvDXBAdsG5vqBq5dLoDJR3XZOkQ.Y.E.yrJgTt6d9QNyA8jgupeZpS ECk4QU8zhJUUxpsTFPWhUdNLD51k1bU7hmtVQuMa3wftHQHRaZnQi1zPqws7 CGdO4qp7Zo3unIxiOi01afAXzuC58.4o4xqPdWjjRTABcLyjZxwog32ytSnO MqUdgcHHMIbNzPjqbATAlPv0El85esDkItl3zsbVdYYHjzAPv7ZtGG_wuvhi gLQZ1STI_MmzGgnm3oTtBnzWySPijB0G52lx6ogka_WTfbt63yPT.fXtfEsc WoTcJEXOHUprASkkTuKggRyjqC0hPWWpWAqNrREUtY3KOlREIlfvIr0PXb75 _1pMqNaAw3zPdBpL0ITmnHwqqbdcp57svuqeulUrMl3vofRKaXSjUid2hhb0 _58wm0qnOv5KiEKqpZF8PqaYIov.To3sPIce3 Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:06:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 Message-ID: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:30:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:06:49 -0000 Hi everybody,=0A=0ALet say my computer is connected to the internet with a = cable modem and has a dynamic IP address via DHCP. 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Like send an e-mail with the new IP, I already know how to do this= , but how can I track the event when my computer receives the new IP?=0AAny= ideas or same issues?=0A=0AThx!=0ALaszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:31:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8441065675 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C836C8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2550583eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=BsMcAyw1dBN/sPkhlhiHWkn0ESi1y8Sv3phXMi3t4N8=; b=emdBZ43fzqIh9pyKN5P5bv75EZ7JmjDfV9hyKV1IuGK0YrE9RNvw40lhgXX+SuLGoo 6py38txHsP6w6g9Agjl5IFofAgIyZhB+J9nfSdhqVT0H/q1XPKK8McNLCHvB97/a7k9n NL3PXYb8Pld1fXc6lcdrgQb/nZHclcYoPf/xesgWukEOLTSrEAlI2oXTOSCTv01pWL8W 4dxAM5OobYOywOuuz2N9N9PuBKE/kCWHiA0LziXaUl8cAAn9h+QRiCyRyjzUToTk1k3b fA8MKm/3dxQiwJ9s1bvuW7bUP7WsW5sPpL23g6DcJk/id2SGN4yLlGAfjwBpZN9FcDfZ rB8w== Received: by 10.14.99.206 with SMTP id x54mr9685497eef.94.1338985917681; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o16sm5917769eeb.13.2012.06.06.05.31.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF4DBB.5020006@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:31:55 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZv3fZ1AU2IbNX4urfNg08OGbwGIPTrS8OCAMyg8ROm3RBbEmAq0XUnVEwGsIZ0yY9oGXB Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:31:59 -0000 On 6/5/12 9:12 PM, Gökþin Akdeniz wrote: >> >> UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel >> binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ >> > > That's restriction is only for ARM devices which have a label that says > "Desgined for Windows8". In other words those devices can not boot > another os except Windows 8 due to secure boot option enabled by > default. > > The short and the long of it Microsoft is copying Apple on tablets with > ARM. > Well perhaps it should say "designed ONLY for windows8" then ? This has "class action" written all over it, just like the "ready for win7" fiasco where the PCs displaying the sticker could only run the minimalist version of the OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:34:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6B11065679 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C108FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2551953eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=EMiVgI9yOJNd4wsztmqX067VpbImQE8kfNBfzqjshEg=; b=phhJqYq0rBvjCdS7VHBnEpWkW3gRsxUa4if8zNAlZyf7HmLvisBUr9vy0tqKxlxdB3 EFNGdWnXtRArPO5nVNgtC/aifFAWSZzzMVLZhw+iBnJPJZfOWsSd9mOrpa0TGm4ALHZg AlbY93GInzCnPIFFRrKKA7pe4bZNeBmWXbDr5+VcIdyNonctJ+oFd0ANNU/u9kWjctAB 428VGgv8eJmYP9bUuOAge2Yi36mb0wb3O/Bl9jSDQIHP0ZbaSL26qT7Al6hAGBWJPG39 ZtwPzZYzP+FPurI/i44btD+/xvfOYoU/KBBVJfc0ir4mpSX6sKJ+VBvOd0VErfsdWGeD iJKA== Received: by 10.14.94.204 with SMTP id n52mr10415638eef.200.1338986095002; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f16sm5998333eec.2.2012.06.06.05.34.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF4E6C.5090300@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:34:52 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl/VERzEVdaJeJ0up4tTd/H3SNN6/KAAdror6oQ1mYTTLqBQBJzvnQZbVan7g6WSA+CKTKg Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:34:56 -0000 On 6/6/12 1:57 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote: > >> For the time being only ARM platform is restricted. > > True, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded by > MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is > to add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or > all desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of years. > I direct you to an older version of the matrix, where microsoft was discussing Paladium and TCPA. These are the exact same. And these are a liberty killer. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:35:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B876106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm25-vm3.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm25-vm3.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.177.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BDCE8FC1A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.209] by nm25.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 12:35:18 -0000 Received: from [77.238.184.66] by tm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 12:35:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp135.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2012 12:35:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1338986118; bh=HtVH6mA2cmILjQJkVTdqaaifs0XRuSNOvIc4EJ3ft5k=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To:Content-Type; b=CsshIvIvRlchvE4lnzjmStAvCJPsI8a+xZi09SEgGlTlz3U7kY+nLEXDUT/3mDX51/x9nRgmjxkmsT8CPSJhcZ7nS8WO2nbYo4F53ZLYeaKa8FEk1X9DjqLEbB63Nwca+7PHZAUByv4UGPSLerxQWtTLEecZR0DzLf/JPTKL5So= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 319903.34135.bm@smtp135.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: su_Cm9gVM1n39z2CdYnVIJXDLWo61_FiMoMluXLg.MOXuTj rw65saumR6V5lQW2qaOWwd.p6MvAqTHu9NDyUlZ74ouqhP6wiuwjCZfhoA27 onCVu2H3YsRrlpHCr1gDk.aJXBqD4lrRfjsQCUJB.CtfibcwTT79gJDfqC32 lfi0dysOO1wIVtT50.BzjixvM09fCDAAdipd0BQ5mTNOe961sME.a69thMQN 7dkDk8eFVRFy50BhxRWT4QvTeRYGXKhyDgyEWdjH2nRLqOfZ_UfffDhFoscf mjL0tByoPMOwUh0ggvxJfdY6ALjrBdnS2QvCIWCM1UjDKB.d20WV24sqc5bp 7C_WYlfRn6JTrcuMfDyJQG44RVgT4EtkEgAfX3Rb26eJYEcFs7TnsqCNwnim sHALtVhTZ7mmLO5bf3MDfK40.7O9H6OSHIOY97IYEiYoMPSTIOA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (axelbsd@209.85.161.182 with plain) by smtp135.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jun 2012 12:35:17 +0000 GMT Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so5790402ggn.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.213.98 with SMTP id nr2mr6177977igc.71.1338986116668; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:35:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.133.65 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 05:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexandre Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:34:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Unable to update virtualbox-ose-additions 4.1.16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:35:25 -0000 Hi, I got a VM VirtualBox that use FreeBSD 9-STABLE (updated yesterday). Now I want to update my ports, but I can't update I use the command <# portmaster -a -D --no-confirm> to update ports with portmaster tool. The error is : [...] The failing command: @cc -m64 -o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/VBoxClient /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/main.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/src/VBox/GuestHost/SharedClipboard/clipboard-helper.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/src/VBox/GuestHost/SharedClipboard/x11-clipboard.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/clipboard.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/seamless.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/seamless-host.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/seamless-x11.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/thread.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/display.o /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/VBoxClient/hostversion.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib32 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -liconv /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/lib/additions/RuntimeGuestR3.a /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/lib/additions/VBoxGuestR3Lib.a /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/work/VirtualBox-4.1.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/lib/additions/RuntimeGuestR3.a -lX11 -lXrandr -lXt -lsupc++ -lgcc_eh -lXext -lXmu -lpthread -liconv *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. ===>>> make failed for emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions failed ===>>> Aborting update Terminated [...] I posted the full output (with "script") here : http://pastebin.com/cmBbqzKx This VM is installed on a Windows 7 host (VirtualBox 4.1.16r78094). # uname -a FreeBSD VirtualBox 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 5 16:03:26 CEST 2012 root@VirtualBox:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # pkg_info | grep virtualbox virtualbox-ose-additions-4.1.8 VirtualBox additions for FreeBSD guests Thanks for your help. Regards, Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:37:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F23106567F for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5298FC1D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56Cbh6m013738; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:37:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q56Cbh5V013735; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:37:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:37:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Erich In-Reply-To: <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se> <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 06:37:43 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:44 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Erich wrote: > Hi > > I have had success on my hardware with this setting: > > # The working configuration. The mouse daemon in /etc/rc.conf > # was dsabled. > # > # Section "ServerLayout" > # Identifier "X.org Configured" > # Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > # InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > # InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > # EndSection > # > # Section "ServerFlags" > # Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" Please don't do that: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > # Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" This is the right way to disable HAL input device detection. > # EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 12:51:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C9F1065673 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE87A8FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.138.243] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScFhx-0001VS-AP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:51:30 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56CpQq0002089 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:51:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q56CpQTX002088 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:51:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:51:26 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.243 Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:51:37 -0000 El día Wednesday, June 06, 2012 a las 02:06:48AM -0700, Dánielisz László escribió: > Hi everybody, > > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable modem and has a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is refreshed after every random days. > I want to know the new address even when I'm not home. Like send an e-mail with the new IP, I already know how to do this, but how can I track the event when my computer receives the new IP? > Any ideas or same issues? Hi, Run this in a cronjob: lynx -dump myip.nl | fgrep 'WAN IP' strore the result in a file and when it changes, trigger a mail; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 13:12:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0414E106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0248FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q56DCt75056948; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:12:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FCF570D.1040703@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:11:41 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kwel kwel References: <20120606103906.8BDCF106578C@hub.freebsd.org> <1338982579.34045.YahooMailNeo@web114108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1338982579.34045.YahooMailNeo@web114108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:12:59 -0000 2012-06-06 13:36, kwel kwel skrev: > > > > Please remove my email from your database i don't want to receive any other mail from you plzz thanks ! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 13:17:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0172B106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DB98FC1E for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2012 09:17:50 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BNH60408; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:17:48 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2012 09:17:48 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:17:47 -0400 To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:17:52 -0000 Matthias Apitz writes: > > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable > modem and has a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is > refreshed after every random days. > > > I want to know the new address even when I'm not home. Like > send an e-mail with the new IP, I already know how to do this, > but how can I track the event when my computer receives the new > IP? > > Run this in a cronjob: > > lynx -dump myip.nl | fgrep 'WAN IP' > > strore the result in a file and when it changes, trigger a mail; Or, using only tools in the base system: ifconfig | head | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}' Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 13:20:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A49106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2775B8FC17 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q56DKf76006813; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:20:42 -0600 From: Erich To: Warren Block Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:20:36 +0700 Message-ID: <1661112.8iNahTB6zu@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:20:43 -0000 Hi, On 06 June 2012 6:37:43 Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Erich wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I have had success on my hardware with this setting: > > > > # The working configuration. The mouse daemon in /etc/rc.conf > > # was dsabled. > > # > > # Section "ServerLayout" > > # Identifier "X.org Configured" > > # Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > # InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > # InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > # EndSection > > # > > # Section "ServerFlags" > > # Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" > > Please don't do that: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > > # Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" > > This is the right way to disable HAL input device detection. Is this really without function now? I could not get X running on the machine I used without using it. My standard practise is to use an empty xorg.conf when installing a fresh X. I add then these lines when X does not work. Erich > > > # EndSection > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 13:46:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70041106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285328FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.138.243] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScGYx-0001TP-Du for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:46:15 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56DkCkq002208 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:46:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q56DkCPV002207 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:46:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:46:11 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606134611.GA2185@tiny> References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.243 Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:46:24 -0000 El día Wednesday, June 06, 2012 a las 09:17:47AM -0400, Robert Huff escribió: > > Run this in a cronjob: > > > > lynx -dump myip.nl | fgrep 'WAN IP' > > > > strore the result in a file and when it changes, trigger a mail; > > Or, using only tools in the base system: > > ifconfig | head | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}' This will not work if your host has some private addr which is NAT'ed by a router; the real test is ask some remote side "how I do apear to you?" ofc you could do this as well by SSH'ing to some side and asking with netstat(1) there (which may be shows another NAT'ed addr too :-)) Trust me, the above lynx is the nearly only robust version. matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 13:50:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8980C106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B9E8FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56DobvN029750 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:50:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:50:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206061350.q56DobvN029750@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:50:12 -0000 m > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 07:37:57 2012 > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= > To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Subject: IP -> e-mail > > Hi everybody, > > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable modem and h > as a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is refreshed after every r > andom days. > I want to know the new address even when I'm not home. Like send an e-mai > l with the new IP, I already know how to do this, but how can I track the > event when my computer receives the new IP? > Any ideas or same issues? Schedule a 'cron' job to run as frequently as you like. Have it: a) do an 'ifconfig -a', or maybe just check the 'interface of interest'. b) 'diff' that output against a 'reference' copy from the previous run c) send an email if diff reports differences d) save the ifconfig output for referene in the next run From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:02:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA75E106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524368FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2595903eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:02:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oMY42DoTsbE3XixhlI0m7YC2lVv0lx+vDYej71f35Zs=; b=OCPm6u1gnZ/JpwjxFOZYJCKqinITWMd8L9AbsEt0e6Az0R/UhG095+xLiQbpvfqt3Z 8nKkx4xHO6wT8Y8yyvktiZ+BVdfYtIh/ojqeFNWiHElPa6MgS0GltdqVvV+zS72IkA+/ 068TqDBUUaXcQLJHIfWS+Z6ONCcJSTXpLfkiwi9yBPHsKEBPma1d0f3z5qxJM3p8x7eJ 7hFHSjR2LO/0AxLPNByzHXrq1asfpHZZGM8rX4YQp2M+euuBztI93tV6Ca++pizTcBAw M8S6+hv9zIIf0iHNHK9y+8r3mDE5GJYBkihAMyfpzGA7JYmW1s4QGl4Mt2aG2g+EHYSw Mwug== Received: by 10.14.97.16 with SMTP id s16mr9070430eef.117.1338991349966; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm6756398eem.16.2012.06.06.07.02.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:02:10 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606150210.1e4e7724@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120606073624.5f7c3f53@scorpio> References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120606073624.5f7c3f53@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:02:31 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:36:24 -0400 Jerry wrote: > In any event, it won't belong before some hacker comes up with a way > to circumvent the entire process anyway, It sounds like Fedora already have. They say that they are only going to sign a thin shim that loads grub. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:04:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358C11065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc4-s13.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A81F8FC21 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS16 ([65.54.190.201]) by bay0-omc4-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:03:34 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.252.98.94] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "'Robert Huff'" , "'Matthias Apitz'" References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:03:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQG0JQi5ZJFUniOBhP7jevsItxWawQGsAdPwAlN29PaW/5QA0A== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2012 14:03:34.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[2944B050:01CD43ED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:04:40 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robert Huff > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:18 AM > To: Matthias Apitz > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail > > > Matthias Apitz writes: > > > > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable > > modem and has a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is > > refreshed after every random days. > > > > > I want to know the new address even when I'm not home. Like send > > an e-mail with the new IP, I already know how to do this, but how can > > I track the event when my computer receives the new IP? > > If you are using it so you know what IP to hit from outside your network, I would also recommend taking a look at a service like DynDNS as you would have a DNS name that would auto correct for new IP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:10:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55B3106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7B58FC18 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56EB2sf030101 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:11:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:11:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206061411.q56EB2sf030101@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20120606134611.GA2185@tiny> Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:10:36 -0000 Matthias Apitz opined: > El dia Wednesday, June 06, 2012 a las 09:17:47AM -0400, Robert Huff escribio: > > Matthias Apitz opined: > > > > > > lynx -dump myip.nl | fgrep 'WAN IP' > > > > > > strore the result in a file and when it changes, trigger a mail; > > > > Or, using only tools in the base system: > > > > ifconfig | head | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}' > > This will not work if your host has some private addr which is NAT'ed by a > router; FALSE TO FACT. Given the OP's actual request. > the real test is ask some remote side "how I do apear to you?" > ofc you could do this as well by SSH'ing to some side and asking with > netstat(1) there (which may be shows another NAT'ed addr too :-)) Matthias, your lynx-based 'solution' does *NOT* solve the OP's question. He wants to know -when- his DHCP assigned address changes. Consider what happens if both the expired address and the new address are behind the _same_ NAT translation. The internal addrress changes, but the external one does not. To do what the OP _asked_, parsing the 'ifconfig' output *is* the correct approach. _IF_, on the other hand, he wants to know when the 'externally visible' address (a _very_ different question) for that host changes, then your approach is the correct one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:14:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DB8106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B5D8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.138.243] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScH0S-0006Sx-Nv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:14:41 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56EEQMs002284 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:14:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q56EEL5Y002283 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:14:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:14:21 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606141420.GA2264@tiny> References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.243 Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:14:42 -0000 El día Wednesday, June 06, 2012 a las 10:03:26AM -0400, Sean Cavanaugh escribió: > > Matthias Apitz writes: > > > > > > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable > > > modem and has a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is > > > refreshed after every random days. > > > > > > > I want to know the new address even when I'm not home. Like send > > > an e-mail with the new IP, I already know how to do this, but how can > > > I track the event when my computer receives the new IP? > > > > > If you are using it so you know what IP to hit from outside your network, I understand that the OP is not at home when the change occurs, but wants to connect to home; > I would also recommend taking a look at a service like DynDNS as you would > have a DNS name that would auto correct for new IP. the IP provider in Germany do not assign a static DNS name to you if yo do not have a static IP. matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:20:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279A61065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B118FC18 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2606304eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:20:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qzaztdmQIxy0LZsfkSyamYvna4CSRWFdJZY3fTktgKg=; b=bbwhvT7jIs23VfkbvreP2PU5fZb0AlQR5bhohHx5uM5Iaca7ulCTxhI7LFQGOIeCqU 4epSX7d28xICRVzQQQewyAHsfgpbNsDAsV2nvfOIZB163goLwaa7BKUk2d5AHiKLaMqZ pggIOj+wPcHMrpbsrc5mGEQhPNJJQI/NNP7G4Rhxf2YE3sxg+ZF4BeeIzhyqzGKTHG4w UjWkjwIJk7BUn8Dqe4PNqD+6yljvugDG0tEEMTRaSCbQogcemmeAkawkQ4h4PVlySC3a PiNZjZYSWhJP3zIt2DgSUS06p1jimLZsUJNXqeeBvoWxPmPnVNYXK8ZfXK96/2nomDCk n35g== Received: by 10.14.53.6 with SMTP id f6mr9692768eec.215.1338992432119; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f16sm6987233eec.2.2012.06.06.07.20.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:20:24 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606152024.2e66ba83@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:20:39 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wrote: > Hi everybody, >=20 > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable modem > and has a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is refreshed > after every random days. I want to know the new address even when I'm > not home. Like send an e-mail with the new IP, I already know how to > do this, but how can I track the event when my computer receives the > new IP? Any ideas or same issues? Have you considered dynamic dns? If you don't actually need the address it would allow you to access the machine by hostname. Even if you do, polling the dns is as good a way as any of detecting the change.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:21:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C631106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7E88FC16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14A8A717DD for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7108 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2012 14:21:46 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 16224, pid: 23097, t: 0.1651s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jun 2012 14:21:46 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 8C68333C24; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:21:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:21:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3=22's?= message of "Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44ipf48qrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:54 -0000 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 writes: > Let say my computer is connected to the internet with a cable modem and h= as a dynamic IP address via DHCP. This address is refreshed after every ran= dom days. > I want to know the new address even when I'm not home. Like send an e-mai= l with the new IP, I already know how to do this, but how can I track the e= vent when my computer receives the new IP? > Any ideas or same issues? dhclient-script(8) has provision for running scripts on any DHCP event, and provides both new and old IP addresses in environment variables. If they're different, fire off an e-mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:23:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23210656B0 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524398FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.138.243] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScH96-00029U-J4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:23:36 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56ENYgx002308 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:23:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q56ENX4n002307 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:23:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:23:33 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606142332.GB2264@tiny> References: <20120606134611.GA2185@tiny> <201206061411.q56EB2sf030101@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201206061411.q56EB2sf030101@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.243 Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:23:38 -0000 El día Wednesday, June 06, 2012 a las 09:11:02AM -0500, Robert Bonomi escribió: > > Matthias Apitz opined: > > El dia Wednesday, June 06, 2012 a las 09:17:47AM -0400, Robert Huff escribio: > > > Matthias Apitz opined: > > > > > > > > lynx -dump myip.nl | fgrep 'WAN IP' > > > > > > > > strore the result in a file and when it changes, trigger a mail; > > > > > > Or, using only tools in the base system: > > > > > > ifconfig | head | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}' > > > > This will not work if your host has some private addr which is NAT'ed by a > > router; > > FALSE TO FACT. Given the OP's actual request. The OP request is a bit uncertain and I interpreted it as he wants to know how to 'phone' home. The OP talks about a cable modem and DHCP and about the addr for the computer. If your computer is connected to the 'modem' by ethernet or Wifi and the IP is assigned by DHCP to the modem, you will never see any change in your computer. It just stays for ever, for example, 192.168.2.1 while the router has 192.168.2.2 and all this network is NAT behind the router WAN IP. In this szenario your ifconfig solution will not help. May be the OP should clarify his situation and what he really wants. matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:23:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035D0106568B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C9B8FC1B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56ENd2K014391; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:23:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q56ENdUc014388; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:23:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:23:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Erich In-Reply-To: <1661112.8iNahTB6zu@x220.ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com> <1661112.8iNahTB6zu@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:23:39 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:23:41 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Erich wrote: > Hi, > > On 06 June 2012 6:37:43 Warren Block wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Erich wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have had success on my hardware with this setting: >>> >>> # The working configuration. The mouse daemon in /etc/rc.conf >>> # was dsabled. >>> # >>> # Section "ServerLayout" >>> # Identifier "X.org Configured" >>> # Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>> # InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>> # InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>> # EndSection >>> # >>> # Section "ServerFlags" >>> # Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" >> >> Please don't do that: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html >> >>> # Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" >> >> This is the right way to disable HAL input device detection. > > Is this really without function now? I could not get X running on the machine I used without using it. AEI is not without function, it's just usually not the function desired. AutoAddDevices Off is all that's needed to prevent xorg-server from using HAL for input device detection. So far, I have not found a situation where AEI Off is still required, and more than a few where it causes problems. Better yet is to rebuild xorg-server with the HAL option disabled. For example, xfce does not require or benefit from HAL. Other software may still need it. > My standard practise is to use an empty xorg.conf when installing a fresh X. I add then these lines when X does not work. Fair enough. Just leave out the AEI line. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:25:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BC6106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF498FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS10 ([65.54.190.60]) by bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:25:41 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.252.98.94] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "'Matthias Apitz'" , References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120606141420.GA2264@tiny> In-Reply-To: <20120606141420.GA2264@tiny> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:25:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQG0JQi5ZJFUniOBhP7jevsItxWawQGsAdPwAlN29PYA3eMARQMB3WigluCcXYA= Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2012 14:25:41.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[401AE990:01CD43F0] Cc: Subject: RE: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:25:46 -0000 > > > I would also recommend taking a look at a service like DynDNS as you > > would have a DNS name that would auto correct for new IP. > > the IP provider in Germany do not assign a static DNS name to you if yo do > not have a static IP. > Hence the Dynamic DNS option. Granted OP would have to run a client on their device to actively track the change but it would update the DNS record within a small window of the IP change. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:26:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DBC1065674 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12898FC18 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:26:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=awAn4gWKGAJz+qZ6I8YNcPHIUEnxCVCs7dvdaduZY/E=; b=UyZqB0ooIbNgV92BSffMXfM3K3SlOrWXAX52q93kcr6lo3hx0Wh4xyVQwwjk3sUMGUxVLMHDUIT3F53/K5k/wyTePUrCLN+HOYDW/Zp1pCxKkTP8jiOpEKthgMO/65Iy; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScHBu-0002Ex-9C; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:26:35 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338992784-26372-26371/5/35; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:26:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1338973608.78319.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20120606125125.GA2043@tiny> <20431.22651.888125.876852@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120606134611.GA2185@tiny> <201206061411.q56EB2sf030101@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:26:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201206061411.q56EB2sf030101@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: IP -> e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:26:37 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:11:02 -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Matthias, your lynx-based 'solution' does *NOT* solve the OP's question. Incorrect; it does solve his problem. > He wants to know -when- his DHCP assigned address changes. Consider > what happens if both the expired address and the new address are behind > the _same_ NAT translation. The internal addrress changes, but the > external one does not. Please people, read carefully: His ISP is handing out his public IP via DHCP. This is normal for consumer internet connections. He doesn't care about his internal RFC 1918 IP which is handed out by his router's DHCP server; that's an easy problem to solve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:11:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F114B1065670; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966938FC1A; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6375E326; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:10:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.622, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id IzIudeHLdDOJ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:09:57 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA3615E318; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:09:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCF8141.2040402@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:11:45 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> <4FCCC1DA.4020202@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FCCC1DA.4020202@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:11:12 -0000 2012-06-04 16:10, Leslie Jensen skrev: > > > 2012-06-04 15:54, Warren Block skrev: >> % printf "\033];Funny Title\007" > > > Works! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Can the reason for me not getting the title to change be that I very often use screen when updating ports? I've tried different combinations and I'm only able to get the title when I work locally. Screen and ssh does not change the title. My initial wish for some information about the build progress is still very much on the table. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:17:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D031065676 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1B88FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56GHeQl031484; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:17:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:17:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206061617.q56GHeQl031484@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rwmaillists@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20120606150210.1e4e7724@gumby.homeunix.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:17:14 -0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:36:24 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > > In any event, it won't belong before some hacker comes up with a way > > to circumvent the entire process anyway, > > It sounds like Fedora already have. They say that they are only going to > sign a thin shim that loads grub. "not exactly." *GRIN* Fedora'a 'thin shim' will be signed, to keep an (always-, or other) enabled 'secure BIOS' loader happy. Fedora will provide an option -- which will remain 'user-settable' (regardless of whether the 'secure BIOS' signature is mandatory -- to either ENFORCE or IGNORE a requirement for valid 'signatures' on the subsequently loaded pieces of the O/S -- 2nd/3rd/etc-stage boot loaders, the kernel itself, any loadable modules, etc. And, Fedora will sign all _Fedora-supplied_ files that meet that criteria. Thus an end-user can run with 'secure boot' fully enabled, with only signed files being loadable as part of the O/S -- using either Fedora-supplied signed files, -or- files that they, themselves, have signed. OR, with BIOS signing required (the 'thin shim' loader) but signing of subsequent files -not- required, OR, (if the hardware manufacturer allows it) with BIOS signing disabled. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:22:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9AA106568B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73E98FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-20-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.20.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5312804B; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q56GLrSV002053; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:21:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:21:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Message-Id: <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:22:01 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? Maybe a common marketing and sales model comes from software to hardware too: You don't actually own the hardware! When you give money to the manufacturer (maybe through vendors or retailers), you receive hardware _plus_ a limited set of rights which you may exercise on that hardware, maybe for a limited time. By purchasing the hardware that way, you may even have "implicitely signed" a kind of agreement (cf. EULA) that you accept those "licensing of hardware". You do _not_ own it in order to exercise your free will on it, like "I have the right to wipe 'Windows' and install something else", which might result in a loss of warranty. You may only run what the manufacturer allows you to run (by providing the proper boot mechanism for it that "just works"). If the manufacturer may decide that you shouldn't boot that system you bought anymore, he can retract the permissions and the device you paid money for will be rendered into a shiny brick. This _is_ possible, and as human nature teaches: Everything that is possible _will_ be done, no matter if we recognize it immediately or not. And the worst solution prevails, so whatever we may assume about the future, the future will be much worse. :-) Note that flats are a familiar example of this model. You may live in the flat, but by paying a rent you don't own it. What you may do is limited. Another valid interpretation of this problem is of course "defective by design" and "planned obsolescense". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:30:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FCC1065687; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC318FC15; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF89A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.248.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q56GUf3r034968; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:30:43 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56GUYMN006912; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:30:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q56GUJj7093472; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:30:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Daniel Feenberg From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:19:58 EDT." Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:30:19 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Jerry , Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:30:46 -0000 > I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key > have to keep it secret? Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, & then publish the key so we could all forever more compile & boot our own kernels. But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft & Verisign seek to impose. It seems dangerous. I suspect we (the free source community) will need to campaign, to engage for eg more EU fines against monoplists to force them to back off. I say EU, 'cos they have done it before, so our best bet so far, but it doesnt matter much which governments impose swingeing anti monoploy fines, as long as enough do, to deter MS & verisign etc. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:39:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831C21065670 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05DF8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so6085141laa.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:39:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=D3n2/KzivQ6xmtT5Jenx0Nbw/Usvk8SKnyjyTodRNZE=; b=FrRsdrrTy8dEmBp5UnCBfhJqdX6QpUmOeRwY0y5OfNKVcjZLYsSyh+jvZiEp8sjS/M MMoPfYlkn9IjPNyLHxPEgMo3YXKCg1ma1Kv98XeA0R4beVsS3Q41a4W4wIyL1+EvaFzz AbKDvGC4zB4XetDbxwlsv5rrsMC4QzE2v+RzTBxarbBUdClFEkAmXqz8jCWmshG+dOgQ cxWTYsjog4sGsikOas8/sM/0aUuDr8yfEySLdjZiTBiSB/wP76mhiP/Tl6w16BBMTQxk e9pLEqJ/vGx7jH3K4rp05C1m+yM31zWnI60QCpkyTASJuKU6NxWOicOWQEHdmMhLNt12 BDUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.234 with SMTP id sp10mr22138324lab.51.1339000774557; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:39:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2001:4870:a28b:f:adbe:981c:87f7:83c7] Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:39:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmLlfABWpKhE80HxKKsmnwBtH3XL8G9Wq6uX8gX4kbdP95ILiMqTN5f2V8S8gxURhhgb+DU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: upgrade from 7-stable to 8-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:39:36 -0000 It is time to do the above for me. I have done several upgrades within the same major version but have not done a version hop yet. Aside from extra paranoia about backups and the need to rebuild all ports, are there other gotchas to watch out for? I am going to try it on a test VM system first. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:49:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF33106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD4C8FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (www.darkmindweb.net [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3W6wpn0VLFzYC for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> Message-ID: <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> X-Sender: DStaal@usa.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/RCMAIL_VERSION Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DStaal@usa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:49:59 -0000 On 2012-06-05 17:20, Jerry wrote: > The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what > FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do > not > use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before > its user base is even effected. I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or another, really. It's not an immediate problem for any platform supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined user who's willing to check out their BIOS. (Even if they are using the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to require this code signing yet.) So it'll probably be a 'wait and see if it's something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at this point. But this is just my impression. In slight defense of RedHat: They do a lot of worrying about enterprise and government customers, many of whom don't really care what platform they are running on - as long as they can get 'support' and it passes their security/operational tests. In that environment, I can easily see some middle-manager decreeing that disabling the signed-boot process is verboten, without any understanding of the meaning or the consequences, and enforcing it on the whole company/division, to the point where any non-signed OS would be thrown out the door. FreeBSD has probably already been thrown out the door at those types of locations, as there is no 'official' support channel. (Yes, for my sins, I work at one of these...) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:52:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A18C1065674; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EDA8FC15; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q56GqGR0019627; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:52:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:45:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-Reply-To: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: References: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120606 #8143329, check: 20120606 clean Cc: Jerry , Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:52:25 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key >> have to keep it secret? > > Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? A limited-liability company with no assets is judgement-proof. > > Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, & then publish > the key so we could all forever more compile & boot our own kernels. > But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft & Verisign seek > to impose. > Could it really be that simple? As for hardware vendors putting revoked keys in the ROM - are they really THAT cooperative? Seems like they would drag their feet on ROM updates if they had to add a lot of stuff that won't help them, so that doesn't seem like a great enforcement tool. dan feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:54:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67991065674 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8818FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so6417022wgb.31 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=mTy/cZUvFcgyYZw9zZjXz4zerT2yWYLqGueU3AEnn1I=; b=Tn8ZEdaG3gEtf2mMmLdZ4zk8hXAQr4IYCgZNdl93gSLc/bcWkML1wT5Z1A4yx44wMW rosBeDQ/01R9mAEbMFDslKXg1gHx0pQ0kbsn9kS9AbRc6xBKW82bkkylbultdK3UR0Zl 4e/8OWYSC/2eiuqC58hjhehnFtVP0VnXeFyziZG61g9UtSK+uU7xilMMufnBvsbW5aYq tamXrXoUxa7S5GAsSILlDQ2N/+hhBq+kotRQZYMnvlByDud6esIiItEAQBXV6+DJeiVT uBFcGWtLypssXRSERKdZ+CS3cX9GcYARZr/Ij+Jmp6UGZ7FK/+4ocdyoUg9MS9qC0wPg GdKA== Received: by 10.216.202.22 with SMTP id c22mr16239934weo.10.1339001657345; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.75.151 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:53:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:53:37 +0300 Message-ID: To: "Brian W." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: upgrade from 7-stable to 8-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:54:19 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Brian W. wrote: > It is time to do the above for me. I have done several upgrades within the > same major version but have not done a version hop yet. Aside from extra > paranoia about backups and the need to rebuild all ports, are there other > gotchas to watch out for? I am going to try it on a test VM system first. > > Brian > > See here - http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/ Tested/proven methods! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 17:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178E3106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from tensor.gdynia.pl (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9C38FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56HJCh6069115; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:19:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q56HJCm8069112; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:19:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:19:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:19:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:19:23 -0000 > Maybe a common marketing and sales model comes from software > to hardware too: You don't actually own the hardware! When > you give money to the manufacturer (maybe through vendors > or retailers), you receive hardware _plus_ a limited set > of rights which you may exercise on that hardware, maybe > for a limited time. By purchasing the hardware that way, > you may even have "implicitely signed" a kind of agreement anyway NOBODY are forced to buy micro-soft software. Nobody is forced to buy a PC. Doing this with PC market will result in larger market share for non-Wintel hardware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 17:23:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7A91065692 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6438FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56HNkaF032427 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:23:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:23:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206061723.q56HNkaF032427@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:23:20 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key > > have to keep it secret? > > Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? Contract with _whom_? The party you pay money to -- Verisign -- simply certifies that the party buying the certificate/signing-key -is- who they claim to be. It is *entirely* up to the owner of that certificate/signing-key -who- they allow to use it. If someone/anyone attempts to 'revoke' that certificate/key _other_ than at the request of the owner of that certificate/key, *THAT* party is subject to legal sanctions. Among other things, 'false persona', 'tortuous inter- ference in a business relationship', just to name a few. There is, however, an 'interesting' legal question -- *if* a party were to let 'anybody' use their certificate/key, what is the certificat/key owner's legal liability if someone uses that key to sign malware? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 17:28:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E161065670 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D3E8FC21 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BFEA7063E for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11483 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2012 17:28:20 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 6961, pid: 29213, t: 0.5258s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO P9X79.tddhome) (tomdean@[24.113.107.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jun 2012 17:28:20 -0000 Message-ID: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:28:19 -0700 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail7.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Subject: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:28:22 -0000 Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? I would like to know the reasoning. Or, is it simply a gratuitous change? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 17:39:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232C9106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D2A8FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so6458432wgb.31 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kGcfRmIjxmH8zJIqd/uWMuRnUOjO61W3bc0g/p+/0QQ=; b=VfP0FXjK7ufbuDrxfxX198wHsquZK12to7U4Y2yVmNfbmKa2drj+TBkRY5GS1C/cJq FcfrNSsPUnDkwPPZZNRtehx4YK4ye0gWBi2lwYlnFanZ9a9rrV6AlygU5IwTfnxBffQz YikGLRh6IX0Y9r2hhn3yXU4iH9zgt2naZjgQupi2NOAHdJlpbPOgvPFaie6axzLhzVqU DUSk+X/QxCCm7fT4EgltZ+uYX9W3pZQe/MY0AgHv3BXiM2UrOX5h/pPJgED3se0XqJYn VCm+58Mo5sCaFcg5F1x+fsi+oEvI+QWhpsD2qQZNdhPhOqLc1LehJDweM7j3gNDeHOGp BRqg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.147 with SMTP id y19mr10136390wei.33.1339004383478; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:39:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:39:45 -0000 On Jun 6, 2012 10:32 AM, "Thomas D. Dean" wrote: > > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? > > I would like to know the reasoning. > > Or, is it simply a gratuitous change? > > Tom Dean > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" i believe it at least partially has to do with license. FreeBSD does not "ship" (maybe correct word?) with any GPLv3 licensed software. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 17:55:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CB2106570B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174178FC19 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56HtQI3086976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:55:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q56HtQI3086976 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339005331; bh=ykobowyYKIdkLpMKUKjKy5c7JowOXF0/NSAfYbcS3Hk=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=d0t6Y1Gqf4IXDva/xZCaHReRyK8BcTGMboPRTVt2W+XPwv8sC7iippSOld2C1aj6Z AkwO0NIcOknU/EDRRnRCgnrijjBJOk7fcxpeM22iXuUQEGqV02WqYAn6wVMxTRtb0a GvCRhmx5f16lv/MdJ9IdJeqszGCmmO8ZOL2ykeGk= Message-ID: <4FCF9987.6080803@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:55:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7836851698F96C5397FBDF36" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:55:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7836851698F96C5397FBDF36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/06/2012 17:21, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the >> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order t= o >> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? >=20 > Maybe a common marketing and sales model comes from software > to hardware too: You don't actually own the hardware! When > you give money to the manufacturer (maybe through vendors > or retailers), you receive hardware _plus_ a limited set > of rights which you may exercise on that hardware, maybe > for a limited time. By purchasing the hardware that way, > you may even have "implicitely signed" a kind of agreement > (cf. EULA) that you accept those "licensing of hardware". > You do _not_ own it in order to exercise your free will > on it, like "I have the right to wipe 'Windows' and install > something else", which might result in a loss of warranty. > You may only run what the manufacturer allows you to run > (by providing the proper boot mechanism for it that "just > works"). If the manufacturer may decide that you shouldn't > boot that system you bought anymore, he can retract the > permissions and the device you paid money for will be > rendered into a shiny brick. Sure, manufacturers can propose that if they wish -- and I guess a lot of mobile phone contracts are like that. However, I'd never touch server hardware under those sort of terms. Quite apart from such considerations as not letting disks that have held confidential data out of my control unless they have been securely destroyed -- would I be allowed to do that to a disk I didn't actually own? The idea that a third party could effectively hold a business to ransom by withdrawing permission to choose what operating system is run is completely unacceptable. No sane business would accept that. Also, I think you'll find that such actions are already illegal certainly in the UK, and I believe EU wide. > This _is_ possible, and as human nature teaches: Everything > that is possible _will_ be done, no matter if we recognize > it immediately or not. And the worst solution prevails, so > whatever we may assume about the future, the future will be > much worse. :-) Umm... corporations will always try it on, and politicians will always act in whatever way they think will work out best (and being on good terms with an important corporation that can also happen to pay for an overwhelmingly large lobbying effort does tend to make it seem like a no-brainer to our elected representatives). Corporations should be reminded that they are subject to exactly the same laws as everybody else, regardless of their wealth. Politicians should be reminded that their best interest is precisely the best interest of the people that vote them into office, and no one else. Or in other words, the worst will only happen if we let it. > Note that flats are a familiar example of this model. > You may live in the flat, but by paying a rent you don't > own it. What you may do is limited. No idea what the law is in Germany, but in the UK this applies to any property that you might buy of any type. You don't get ownership per-se, just various rights over the property, like residence and access. Should you find that your property contains, say, a large natural gas source, you won't get any return from it, as mineral rights are not part of the usual property deal. I own my flat, and I do pay ground rent. Officially one peppercorn per year, but I've never seen anyone angrily shaking an empty pepper pot at me in all the years I've been here. I also pay a service charge for maintaining the common areas, which could in theory get me evicted should I fail to pay it for a sufficiently long time, and so could be confused with rent -- but it really isn't. > Another valid interpretation of this problem is of course > "defective by design" and "planned obsolescense". The big advantage of the rental model of acquiring shiny toys is that once the shine has worn off, it's up to the leasing company to fulfil all the weee regulations and dispose of the dead kit. That's pretty expensive otherwise. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7836851698F96C5397FBDF36 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/PmY4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwqEwCggPyrAxiwZ3WH0TSKIhu+k/la GmgAnRxLGC0ojoQTKwKvB8U24NjDgI9S =mItk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7836851698F96C5397FBDF36-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 17:57:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84902106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0185D8FC18 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so6290694lbo.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=UkMeRHPvloXC7KW2g2XRRJnT4irsefnIV14i2V99bgs=; b=eSBMuIK+cdXTYvqhtZEgsiOeYz2cnsruNHTOgmU29/l/yyJqKIpBztf07AGEFNzkJc DMxZPPBYD8qjpYJlWjhywD1ShNOSCwa69MZEPEPcTTKXjnWw9EB/30rD/6nZOZDueDS5 VczVu+D5b4qw+kJPZSc/58d3LSMRk4u/2N8mMGeYG8vQc4xWzmPkEiVwV6KUHzbbgGIr dCEullJYITGo3iyhSRgJ49TJQHaA87xXtnHBUn0p7TfafZGNcvmrPRUDJnzJymxctXrB MjfjmO5RIfJP0P80DpJZLVMHVPWhuQctPM+K2PbLzjh7Mnu7NNghGcZnDYxhugszPgGZ KljA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.41 with SMTP id sr9mr22418461lab.25.1339005438804; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2001:4870:a28b:f:adbe:981c:87f7:83c7] In-Reply-To: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:57:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: Waitman Gobble X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnxQa1FrjgnbQTlwJvcq/few1PTZeLjIFjTTp5JXXYk07IhaR6z4yNMgpS+jAjDsrxTjT8X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:57:20 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Jun 6, 2012 10:32 AM, "Thomas D. Dean" wrote: > > > > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? > > > > I would like to know the reasoning. > > > > Or, is it simply a gratuitous change? > > > > Tom Dean > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > i believe it at least partially has to do with license. FreeBSD does not > "ship" (maybe correct word?) with any GPLv3 licensed software. > > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > _______________________________________________ > > It seems that GPLv3 and the desire to make clang the default in FreeBSD 10 are 2 of the reasons. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:06:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B517C1065670 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203778FC22 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56I606D087197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:06:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q56I606D087197 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q56I606D087197; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:05:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig91CE1C817C026024A8245F05" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:06:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig91CE1C817C026024A8245F05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/06/2012 18:28, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? Yes, endlessly. Mostly on lists like freebsd-hackers@... and at various conferences and developer summits. Check the list archives. > I would like to know the reasoning. It's simple. gcc-4.2, which is what the base system compiler is derived from is: * fairly old * doesn't perform as well as more recent compilers * doesn't adhere to recently established standards Clearly an update was necessary. Unfortunately, later versions of gcc have switched to GPLv3, which is a viral license and unacceptable to the FreeBSD project. Therefore clang was chosen from amongst a number of alternatives as the best replacement. That makes it sound as if clang is a second class option compared to recent gcc, but this is certainly not the case: results from clang are comparable to the latest gcc versions and the design of clang is such that further optimizations and improvements can be readily incorporated. > Or, is it simply a gratuitous change? I can assure you that the changes were not made specifically to annoy you. Of course there were very solid technical reasons behind what was selected. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig91CE1C817C026024A8245F05 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/PnAgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIytXACfU2lcpUTkoFNd/5TP1ycd7FwQ tfcAoIE3OreQLeNt0l5igkceM4j3MqFh =djx4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig91CE1C817C026024A8245F05-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:08:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFBC1065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AB08FC24 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so6575247ghb.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JYV0AZYCXrLxRcFTsBPjW0QbwH9QJ9ovEFYVUEdFXuo=; b=gH6vUrO/GCQiP/mo9M04E4PGvx4ereVYXlorFt3SC5kDisu9vuAQ6UnnTAtY02+s3E 91jLlZsLe3s7geO4lSw682UnwX8r2WwjIg5yxpDsr3/hK4Jry1uccHQ/nlRyz+qUilrn VYhBlHq3JywxjbZKhOrU3TXlijCyU/4Ofr2nWLjygF+HJFL+Ca4byjxac2I/qvko/Lt7 KYkk7ykCJsut6CVBTvxq3oicyx1FCaV0qNlE6lc1WBXBpVUTQooIUKAoqJAlgCFNB9/N fZfAg6OWey0a7/IdLh5TUrlRGrFfsT43bL5JEpR3XnkB9UioJRP5Ord+1UttJ0q/wLMU ptJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.24.7 with SMTP id q7mr21441555oef.50.1339006131188; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:08:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Waitman Gobble Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:08:53 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Jun 6, 2012 10:32 AM, "Thomas D. Dean" wrote: > > > > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? > > > > I would like to know the reasoning. > > > > Or, is it simply a gratuitous change? > > > > Tom Dean > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > i believe it at least partially has to do with license. FreeBSD does not > "ship" (maybe correct word?) with any GPLv3 licensed software. > > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > Because commercial companies using FreeBSD in their proprietary products are NOT willing to use GPL v3 licensed software due to severe restrictions which commercial companies can NOT fulfill in their proprietary products . If FreeBSD uses GPL v3 software in its production , it will lost commercial company supporters and users base . This my understanding from previously read messages . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:20:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C219106566C; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E888FC16; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56IKLf2015592; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:20:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q56IKLPB015589; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:20:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:20:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <4FCF8141.2040402@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> <4FCCC1DA.4020202@eskk.nu> <4FCF8141.2040402@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:20:24 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Can the reason for me not getting the title to change be that I very often > use screen when updating ports? Sure, the escape codes are interpreted by screen, not Terminal. There may be a way to pass them through. tmux has some options for that, but I haven't really tried them and have not used screen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:31:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68447106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 263788FC17 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12020 invoked by uid 110); 6 Jun 2012 18:31:25 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2012 18:31:25 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:31:24 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:31:27 -0000 Hi, Can someone suggest an alternative/proper way to port forward using ipfw. Right now I have the following and some bad clients cause too many FIN_WAIT_2 state fwd IP,PORT2 tcp from any to me dst-port PORT1 keep-state This easily causes DoS for when too many FIN_WAIT_2 are created and IPFW stops forwarding using the rule above because of "too many dynamic rules" Thanks, Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:40:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5AD1065677 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCD38FC1A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so2724933eek.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=tmfFcM/puZJl4OmKdxMsq5FR31T1vRA4scafsxAEUEY=; b=RoIraXs3AhikKK9ihlaainoRn0Qgdzwy8aNpuZC3btLuLi3+VEF1yxmWBtTvYiZ7Fw Xc/DiZDtdEn2AQTS+9+ugATCSVyAYD63qfqZSoCRlq/CiV1xJuh69SXvTniLQsLewZBJ 1HhNFHKst7NRD5jNWVmZnsHjo7UHzhOkqwQg+iqLHbW7lgwXp+3sgQAuR6cat4rZ4gDl 3MWYmCw2/Y/wYqhX4LY+mvWXN8kSYNX0GPVMi7JI7tVAkjQZXG547AzgWfza5nqxGwl9 A+M7EOiHuO6q4y346OHUvHB2uj5GkLJrat1VMeHlMzxFeaGY8A3hHJo0XE9i8ylYjLv9 kNCA== Received: by 10.14.101.78 with SMTP id a54mr8989255eeg.92.1339008029014; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y54sm2232868eef.10.2012.06.06.11.40.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCFA41A.4010506@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:40:26 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlWMeqfefEhbe63cb5L2BOKGhoYggVzY5lEu0bSfqDCAigkIa1XL4KbHSITal1iw4uvofNh Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:40:31 -0000 On 6/6/12 6:45 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >>> I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing >>> key >>> have to keep it secret? >> >> Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? > > A limited-liability company with no assets is judgement-proof. > >> >> Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, & then publish >> the key so we could all forever more compile & boot our own kernels. >> But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft & Verisign seek >> to impose. >> > > Could it really be that simple? As for hardware vendors putting revoked > keys in the ROM - are they really THAT cooperative? Seems like they > would drag their feet on ROM updates if they had to add a lot of stuff > that won't help them, so that doesn't seem like a great enforcement tool. > > dan feenberg Oh god... Please realize that once the key is divulged, it gets revoked at the BIOS' next update. Otherwise the key's purpose is rendered moot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:40:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9407106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3F78FC16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so9968097pbb.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=h8PrvpOQ45rjU6d0fziZdZf+SNupU3k1Z2E3sHxxs+M=; b=oTi14etPhRT2rIwod0CxVZB6NqJawi+cWRUoRv6nQl58CfO/4pSBKQJdM5xUOMsepk p3gIk+BRzcjuPiKojzvXhRUEok//VnqeIFkgxRCWkxL53XLewQAmWaowWNPSdi2mgQh9 IqaydwG+Eh9UiaLY8yfJl9+uipXjKScNmVa5VpMIR9HXL6xJ/6WjkTFcGOJ04R9d/1kE eAemw5m465syfyFZePZGJEHEYj7Q6GHjMnnx5KJONfNYRuW13c8tvJLDb35GpnmAGCMS 3be83iPZ7KFLy06dVVe2cegMeViERX8my09bmYKx4407Sznn69NXaKZahiHkhX/hR19y lN5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.228.2 with SMTP id se2mr60928232pbc.109.1339008057930; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:40:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:40:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Simon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk/vP8DNk83JcCeIFXZBwL0jZFB5nWd+hF5WNaYryqwF77KuPm//A4sp6KObMGvhw+TB4Us Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:40:58 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Simon wrote: > This easily causes DoS for when too many FIN_WAIT_2 are created and IPFW > stops forwarding using the rule above because of "too many dynamic rules" Change the defaults for the fw.dyn sysctl MIB nodes to something like net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime=3 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime=3 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_rst_lifetime=1 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_fin_lifetime=1 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_syn_lifetime=10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:45:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C6F1065675 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B868FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaac13 with SMTP id c13so1963915eaa.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=P1ToxmWVQ2PuI3zBhX6oTQT8JBBfCNBwsuITnmUoOZI=; b=B7jY+zX/PSJSQ3VRKss3XxpbFik/T6a/aYXKmgpcFPDc9+9ExyDCrKrkHfB9xbciB7 /ymDipF4chogNY8BYS314Up2xw4P/qrlOCKc1fCeOvXXVfXAQs5aPhUjLag2JsjUOP/I ZQGr11l7HPw4GOXdQsbZRHWZnZD0opIEQuDOG5N7RgHtaSkqje7+kqMHbHeSjb6u6oPB SfK0MzYHpxVc3zi973yoJxaGEjz5/5ztO5mW0ktgkrrL6AZlhJ36XyN5PDNEx/XK80xg +Syh4fyj2ZBB3FQO8jplIDN7PtLU9C8v61dteX8heWq+nglBXj8G0AB3nWD1al9IARaG GQtA== Received: by 10.14.188.139 with SMTP id a11mr9936953een.139.1339008300311; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t3sm2242641eeb.15.2012.06.06.11.44.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCFA529.1020703@my.gd> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:44:57 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206061723.q56HNkaF032427@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206061723.q56HNkaF032427@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZdizrO7s6zPgyQILzvPVue/uolmbNy1ptGaOrZqxelKGc2ZOA07E2JEN8BAX7XyO/yNAJ Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:45:02 -0000 On 6/6/12 7:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: >> >>> I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key >>> have to keep it secret? >> >> Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? > > Contract with _whom_? The party you pay money to -- Verisign -- simply > certifies that the party buying the certificate/signing-key -is- who they > claim to be. > > It is *entirely* up to the owner of that certificate/signing-key -who- they > allow to use it. > > If someone/anyone attempts to 'revoke' that certificate/key _other_ than > at the request of the owner of that certificate/key, *THAT* party is subject > to legal sanctions. Among other things, 'false persona', 'tortuous inter- > ference in a business relationship', just to name a few. > > There is, however, an 'interesting' legal question -- *if* a party were to > let 'anybody' use their certificate/key, what is the certificat/key owner's > legal liability if someone uses that key to sign malware? > > Standard contract writeup stipulates that only a limited set of 'authorized' company representatives be given access to the Signing Key. If the key should be divulged, then the key may be revoked by the issuer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 18:50:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB801065674 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0DC8FC1D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q56IoIHW037414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56IoI6T084159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q56IoIsA084158; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:50:18 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20120606185018.GA67937@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 172.17.19.78 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Simon Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:50:26 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 06), Michael Sierchio said: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Simon wrote: > > > This easily causes DoS for when too many FIN_WAIT_2 are created and IPFW > > stops forwarding using the rule above because of "too many dynamic > > rules" > > Change the defaults for the fw.dyn sysctl MIB nodes > > to something like > > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime=3 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime=3 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_rst_lifetime=1 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_fin_lifetime=1 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_syn_lifetime=10 Or raise net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_max to a larger number. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm1049438anm.4.2012.06.06.12.05.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W6zpj4QTgz2CG4D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:05:00 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkeeObvZG+/xBi2Q6X8voK+i8OSKZmp5v7ZRwajLv1zCV96Wc1T/iGq9Y87cO5FsG7i9+Yq Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:05:07 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 Daniel Staal articulated: >On 2012-06-05 17:20, Jerry wrote: > >> The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what >> FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do >> not >> use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before >> its user base is even effected. > >I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or >another, really. It's not an immediate problem for any platform >supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined >user who's willing to check out their BIOS. (Even if they are using >the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to require >this code signing yet.) So it'll probably be a 'wait and see if it's >something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at this point. >But this is just my impression. I totally agree with you. Unfortunately that speaks to the sad state of affairs that FreeBSD appears to be in. When it comes to supporting the latest technologies, it tends to be behind the curve when compared to other operating systems. Wireless networking and USB support are only a few examples. I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I don't see that changing anytime soon. Large companies would all ready have the infrastructure in place to handle this sort of problem and as you pointed out would be working with a *nix vendor that could properly meet their needs. Said vendor would have all ready taken care of the UEFI Secure Boot problem. >In slight defense of RedHat: They do a lot of worrying about >enterprise and government customers, many of whom don't really care >what platform they are running on - as long as they can get 'support' >and it passes their security/operational tests. In that environment, >I can easily see some middle-manager decreeing that disabling the >signed-boot process is verboten, without any understanding of the >meaning or the consequences, and enforcing it on the whole >company/division, to the point where any non-signed OS would be thrown >out the door. FreeBSD has probably already been thrown out the door >at those types of locations, as there is no 'official' support >channel. (Yes, for my sins, I work at one of these...) What sin? You use a product and want it properly supported. You have an absolute right to that. Posting a message on a forum and hoping that someone can answer it is not the type of support a business would want. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:11:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985E41065673; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E519F8FC16; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so7683287bkv.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:11:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E2H79muTw6hoOBXgMzlIskA5yfoMO+xvbklTII5f2TU=; b=dd3BTprL+JACJWJgNkOT8ivZWy3Qdwy1I6kDOR0Fd2qSfg3BzZe92WsFgJody6BEQ8 +wh21HCkGBAXJxFYu00OxRCzTmEhLVHwX3DzzbCFu+2kC2lY+IxnhT0p+fSgkKUZjK/3 cCTMSpN8CWH2VTjE/OCtzhuyqQ3p2D0UbQl/KGh1SvCf14bt1nkc0dtl+VoOf7NrypJz PwnteSsQfGkn7IWZNLX5GM7CxIZXHzFdE/o3wnRM8+yKqOY5/Hd5jI9dVzBQS6/kzp2u x/CP6dyfy4881qbm1E18eLCI+51QOQIk9ojORim02Ob73S5bkSfMzr3sJjtiuHbandxQ jgGg== Received: by 10.205.134.6 with SMTP id ia6mr13617108bkc.51.1339009907135; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kuro.5550h.net (p54AEFAE2.dip.t-dialin.net. [84.174.250.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4sm1000736bkv.15.2012.06.06.12.11.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:11:44 +0200 From: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20120606211144.5135cce9@kuro.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:11:54 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:05:59 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 06/06/2012 18:28, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? >=20 > Yes, endlessly. Mostly on lists like freebsd-hackers@... and at > various conferences and developer summits. Check the list archives. >=20 > > I would like to know the reasoning. >=20 > It's simple. gcc-4.2, which is what the base system compiler is > derived from is: >=20 > * fairly old >=20 > * doesn't perform as well as more recent compilers >=20 > * doesn't adhere to recently established standards There's another good reason for clang which nobody mentioned so far: clear diagnostics. If you ever had to wade through gcc's debug output and compare several thousand character long template instantiations, just to find where they differ and then see the clear problem descriptions that clang produces instead, you'll understand what I mean.=20 And in combination with libc++, which just arrived on stable, I am finally able to use all the features of C++11 that I want. Try to use e.g. std::regex even on g++47, and just see what happens. Of course, getting rid of GPL is an added benefit ;) After reading all those complaints, I just had to respond and thank everyone involved very much for importing clang and libc++. Great job well done! Best regards, =E6=96=87=E9=B3=A5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:24:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A2B106566C; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.gain@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEC78FC08; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so5799641wer.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lWOjC/yULCEFu992OJDLNLQaJYKoLzvnvcUFsgeuVGM=; b=qXsBRuXvv24TqEJvAPSgjRAjAocWETGPtnnuSXy3AMx1Q8nmztpVBeVdeyK+ScCguS BO0FJZbQuzLQrT2B3ZEVwkc/2SqjhTjOccePlWPCuV5kjnqEDw/2IlhiSN9N9kAgXGFG upaN8YDrjZ/JIhCghjVP59LI3F+f7tE/ETG1VhlvNfWtJ06k3FwmX0aEWX3KoSWsgkXq S03FIZ+ll4/WgFKPczIimFDVRX8G2qvr3eibDvm75BxPC8V4p9wAnm1Yg3JF3uMjY9lk YiPnLCboKHU31XcT2LTT+R+lFWQp80fpv9ULtlNUDISs5b3hKy/pouhJXG3WqQsHOmow dy8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.218.200 with SMTP id k50mr17903977wep.212.1339010678891; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.185.84 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:24:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120606211144.5135cce9@kuro.5550h.net> References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> <20120606211144.5135cce9@kuro.5550h.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:24:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: Joe Gain To: =?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:24:40 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:11 PM, $BJ8D;(B wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:05:59 +0100 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 06/06/2012 18:28, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? >> You might be interested in this video: http://www.llvm.org/devmtg/2011-11/videos/Davis_LLVMinFreeBSD-mobile.mp4 >> Yes, endlessly. Mostly on lists like freebsd-hackers@... and at >> various conferences and developer summits. Check the list archives. >> >> > I would like to know the reasoning. >> >> It's simple. gcc-4.2, which is what the base system compiler is >> derived from is: >> >> * fairly old >> >> * doesn't perform as well as more recent compilers >> >> * doesn't adhere to recently established standards > > There's another good reason for clang which nobody mentioned so far: > clear diagnostics. If you ever had to wade through gcc's debug output > and compare several thousand character long template instantiations, > just to find where they differ and then see the clear problem > descriptions that clang produces instead, you'll understand what I > mean. > And in combination with libc++, which just arrived on stable, I am > finally able to use all the features of C++11 that I want. Try to use > e.g. std::regex even on g++47, and just see what happens. > Of course, getting rid of GPL is an added benefit ;) > After reading all those complaints, I just had to respond and thank > everyone involved very much for importing clang and libc++. Great job > well done! > > Best regards, > $BJ8D;(B > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- joe gain jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 78464 konstanz germany +49 (0)7531 60389 (...otherwise in ???) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:27:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8995A106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1668FC20 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56JRPLp033735 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:27:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206061927.q56JRPLp033735@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FCFA529.1020703@my.gd> Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:27:04 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 13:46:43 2012 > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:44:57 +0200 > From: Damien Fleuriot > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware > of? > > > > On 6/6/12 7:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > >> > >>> I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key > >>> have to keep it secret? > >> > >> Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? > > > > Contract with _whom_? The party you pay money to -- Verisign -- simply > > certifies that the party buying the certificate/signing-key -is- who they > > claim to be. > > > > It is *entirely* up to the owner of that certificate/signing-key -who- they > > allow to use it. > > > > If someone/anyone attempts to 'revoke' that certificate/key _other_ than > > at the request of the owner of that certificate/key, *THAT* party is subject > > to legal sanctions. Among other things, 'false persona', 'tortuous inter- > > ference in a business relationship', just to name a few. > > > > There is, however, an 'interesting' legal question -- *if* a party were to > > let 'anybody' use their certificate/key, what is the certificat/key owner's > > legal liability if someone uses that key to sign malware? > > Standard contract writeup stipulates that only a limited set of > 'authorized' company representatives be given access to the Signing Key. Which simply begs the question. _who_ decides who is or is not an 'authorized' representative? Or how many such persons are allowed? > If the key should be divulged, then the key may be revoked by the issuer. Suppose I put up a web app that takes an executable as input, signs it with my key, and returns the signed filt to the submitter. I don't divulge the key to anyone, just use it on 'anything'. Anybody attempting to revoke on _that_ basis is asking for a lawsuit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:42:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A99106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549618FC18 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q56JfdHO031498; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:41:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0EE4F12358; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:41:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:41:39 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20120606194139.GA28038@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120604214304.GA29788@thought.org> <20120604182457.301b5d74@scorpio> <20120605045311.GB6634@thought.org> <20120605060435.GB21247@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20120605223427.GC23645@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120605223427.GC23645@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: how do I fix this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:42:11 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:34:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:04:35AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > > what I want to do is get as current as possible and then=20 > > > install 7.5. and stay there. > >=20 > > 7.5 what? Do you mean Xorg? Please try and be specific. >=20 > FreeBSD-7.5. pretty sure I saw something about 7.4 being > upgraded to 7.5. It doesn't look like it. From http://www.nl.freebsd.org/releases/7.4R/announce.html:=20 "This will be the last release from the 7-STABLE branch." 7.4 is listed as a "legacy" release of the FreeBSD homepage. The only upcom= ing release listed is 9.1 somewhere this year. > > Portmaster will first recurse through the port and all of its dependenc= ies > > (if any) to handle any port OPTIONS via the 'make config' interface, > > before going off on the big build. >=20 >=20 > one thing ive been doing is de-selection most of the > options.. the box is my server. we [freebsders] have lost > the desktop 'market' .... =20 My desktop and laptop beg to differ. :-)=20 UNIX is a toolbox, not an appliance. So it was never meant for the "desktop market". But that doesn't mean it cannot be used as such. =20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/PsnMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUXzQCfRbFhBFzu48cXuMsCuww/9R4+ 7ZQAnj9S4oWBexOraKlb6UWROj3Pk8lC =+4Ez -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:43:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697891065675 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7955C8FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber7.nber.org (nber7.nber.org [66.251.72.41]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q56Jh3j1073330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:43:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:43:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: <4FCFA41A.4010506@my.gd> Message-ID: References: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> <4FCFA41A.4010506@my.gd> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120606 #8143329, check: 20120606 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:43:19 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > On 6/6/12 6:45 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >>>> I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing >>>> key >>>> have to keep it secret? >>> >>> Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? >> >> A limited-liability company with no assets is judgement-proof. >> >>> >>> Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, & then publish >>> the key so we could all forever more compile & boot our own kernels. >>> But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft & Verisign seek >>> to impose. >>> >> >> Could it really be that simple? As for hardware vendors putting revoked >> keys in the ROM - are they really THAT cooperative? Seems like they >> would drag their feet on ROM updates if they had to add a lot of stuff >> that won't help them, so that doesn't seem like a great enforcement tool. >> >> dan feenberg > > > Oh god... > > Please realize that once the key is divulged, it gets revoked at the > BIOS' next update. But my point is that MS doesn't issue the updates, they have to ask the BIOS vendors to do so, and then the MB vendors have to take the update, and then the users have to install the update. The incentive at each level is generally very small. It does create some confusion, but is hardly an enforcement mechanism. It would disable older versions of FreeBSD on newer hardware, but not much else. A previous poster has pointed out that MS can't revoke a certificate belonging to RH, but I suppose the could ask the BIOS vendors to treat it as revoked. I don't know what the response would be. Daniel Feenberg > > Otherwise the key's purpose is rendered moot. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:53:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3393106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BBB8FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:53:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=N+tEtjChjyevggdsbBApBlWS7zkur95Oldbz9jO5v2E=; b=JsZF1e9vNpm4SotZLHYpy9i239znslurdnLYny1m6e3Kc4LMQ5KyDmAs5+y8ZcVLCyXhijR4IVxqBEF6dNtT3XI0OrqNPIa5lIuCHxiZR5I8EGXKHqVP9D8DwvjwB+Id; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScMIh-000Csn-Nm; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:53:55 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339012425-26372-26371/5/45; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:53:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206061723.q56HNkaF032427@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4FCFA529.1020703@my.gd> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:53:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FCFA529.1020703@my.gd> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:53:56 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:44:57 -0500, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > If the key should be divulged, then the key may be revoked by the issuer. Revoked how? Wouldn't they have to issue a firmware update to actually revoke it? The UEFI firmware doesn't have network access.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:55:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D984106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D25E8FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so4979354vbm.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hu7EQPIeMnLLOpubaxh4PQ0Dmq3OAnuf+eRGlw5bmig=; b=BVo86Tt/l0a6/cDn/51VvvlqcvbHx2VL74FKWjJZQkiZx/IZdpO7AUEtMehrqhA+ka ImmB5KzZwkmrfTbparVBeJ4xIA4qWOtai+ehu6RFFyQb/BubLgYbzyvkDwKt9p48M04P cOwKV5H4Y3C5NHhCKBzS0EdNgopXvIJs4nGB638l8au60pFxQiBjhoIv/UTWmhMbPZg6 DIhxs0BSCr0CiCw1Fll2VUX41S/X+Sn2N1++tJkANcw766btTDzram0Tneg801Hms2K3 GAmpEMdQdXsX0+AZaXds3hKPcTo+UufS1FYbyZY63g4d+yM7nuRY714BbdeUfIbJYUuE JiOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.220.203 with SMTP id hz11mr15225771vcb.41.1339012516562; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.97 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:55:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:55:18 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 > Daniel Staal articulated: > >>On 2012-06-05 17:20, Jerry wrote: >> >>> The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what >>> FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do >>> not >>> use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before >>> its user base is even effected. >> >>I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or >>another, really. =A0It's not an immediate problem for any platform >>supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined >>user who's willing to check out their BIOS. =A0(Even if they are using >>the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to require >>this code signing yet.) =A0So it'll probably be a 'wait and see if it's >>something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at this point. >>But this is just my impression. > > I totally agree with you. Unfortunately that speaks to the sad state of > affairs that FreeBSD appears to be in. When it comes to supporting the > latest technologies, it tends to be behind the curve when compared to > other operating systems. Wireless networking and USB support are only a > few examples. > > I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then > threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use > 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I > don't see that changing anytime soon. I would have to disagree with you there. I know of quite a few users who happen to run one of the world's largest content distribution networks (accounting for about one third of the internet's traffic; up there with pornography). They purchased more than just a handful of new computers and threw FreeBSD on them: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-June/068129.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:01:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F76E1065675 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@whattheflag.info) Received: from whattheflag.info (v220110691795706.yourvserver.net [188.40.182.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4D18FC1D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by whattheflag.info (Postfix, from userid 104) id 9D64B2B0E5CC; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:52:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Dave U. Random Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:01:23 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's an overgrown ugly mess. We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free hardware. There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good riddance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:06:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C81A1065673 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC528FC16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:06:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=2ImgSNTraNNG1NDyIjYj69yms7wTPxosgoyEdUNalTA=; b=tZoXaPL0k6tcoDo/KvQEXxjxUzIN3yWcklza9y18e56dpGR40IbhB1R+2/RYDV2SQHCLTOYFcg5KxJPC5FFwOywO+RuiVOunZYvAuOdvyPVm9mXCCiHuahDkBloYq5M8; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScMUm-000DMq-7z; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:06:23 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339013174-26372-26371/5/46; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:06:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:06:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: "Dave U. Random" Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:06:24 -0000 Yes, let's all run ALPHA and MIPS hardware. I'll just jam my Nvidia card into one of the available slots and everything should work OK, right? 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v22sm2554159yhl.2.2012.06.06.13.09.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W71FJ50hwz2CG4D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:09:40 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120606160940.7700340a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljzIEHJ2tTw1cSFdPQbytie9fQdGfcGB+MBso/sSHeTlhdcwcDWZlI2Y9/7z+g5g2Tye7N Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:09:51 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:55:16 -0400 Robert Simmons articulated: >On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jerry wrote: >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 >> Daniel Staal articulated: >> >>>On 2012-06-05 17:20, Jerry wrote: >>> >>>> The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what >>>> FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do >>>> not >>>> use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while >>>> before its user base is even effected. >>> >>>I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or >>>another, really.  It's not an immediate problem for any platform >>>supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined >>>user who's willing to check out their BIOS.  (Even if they are using >>>the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to >>>require this code signing yet.)  So it'll probably be a 'wait and >>>see if it's something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at >>>this point. But this is just my impression. >> >> I totally agree with you. Unfortunately that speaks to the sad state >> of affairs that FreeBSD appears to be in. When it comes to >> supporting the latest technologies, it tends to be behind the curve >> when compared to other operating systems. Wireless networking and >> USB support are only a few examples. >> >> I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then >> threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with >> use 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows >> units. I don't see that changing anytime soon. > >I would have to disagree with you there. I know of quite a few users >who happen to run one of the world's largest content distribution >networks (accounting for about one third of the internet's traffic; up >there with pornography). They purchased more than just a handful of >new computers and threw FreeBSD on them: > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-June/068129.html It is late and I am tired; however, unless I am misreading this, this is not dealing with a typical home use but a corporate entity. You omitted my last paragraph in my reply that clearly dealing with corporations. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:10:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E001E106567A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906DF8FC22 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (unknown [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3W71GC62GNzZh for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:10:27 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:10:27 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> Message-ID: X-Sender: DStaal@usa.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/RCMAIL_VERSION Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DStaal@usa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:10:29 -0000 On 2012-06-06 15:05, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 > Daniel Staal articulated: >> >>I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or >>another, really. It's not an immediate problem for any platform >>supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined >>user who's willing to check out their BIOS. (Even if they are using >>the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to >> require >>this code signing yet.) So it'll probably be a 'wait and see if it's >>something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at this point. >>But this is just my impression. > > I totally agree with you. Unfortunately that speaks to the sad state > of > affairs that FreeBSD appears to be in. When it comes to supporting > the > latest technologies, it tends to be behind the curve when compared to > other operating systems. Wireless networking and USB support are only > a > few examples. That was not my intended message with the above. :) FreeBSD supports several server-class hardware platforms. ARM is not currently a server-class hardware platform. (It's a very interesting platform for mobile and small devices, but it has not seen any significant use that I am aware of in the market that FreeBSD is primarily aimed at.) Secure Boot - if even a part of the platform - can easily be disabled on those platforms. So it is not a current problem, and there is a fair amount of bad feeling about the technology, so it may not ever be a problem. RedHat is facing severe backlash from the community because it supported this technology. A 'wait and see' approach to whether it needs to be supported at all - especially as it doesn't appear to need support at present - is a reasonable course. > I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then > threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with > use > 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. > I > don't see that changing anytime soon. *Raises hand*. I did this with two boxes within the past year. One turned out to be to new for FreeBSD - but Linux didn't have support for it yet at that point either. Now either does. >>In slight defense of RedHat: They do a lot of worrying about >>enterprise and government customers, many of whom don't really care >>what platform they are running on - as long as they can get 'support' >>and it passes their security/operational tests. In that environment, >>I can easily see some middle-manager decreeing that disabling the >>signed-boot process is verboten, without any understanding of the >>meaning or the consequences, and enforcing it on the whole >>company/division, to the point where any non-signed OS would be >> thrown >>out the door. FreeBSD has probably already been thrown out the door >>at those types of locations, as there is no 'official' support >>channel. (Yes, for my sins, I work at one of these...) > > What sin? You use a product and want it properly supported. You have > an > absolute right to that. Posting a message on a forum and hoping that > someone can answer it is not the type of support a business would > want. I'm not sure what sin I committed to be consigned to this place, but it must have been heinous. (And in many cases 'official support' appears to be 'post a message about it on our forum, so we can ignore you more efficiently'.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:13:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22641106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61F88FC1C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so5836189wer.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:13:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VzuFX6OCKJ6qoqeskn4Oc6z2EidyCeFUtV8i/vR+gtM=; b=ntoquO2etgcRRZG3vhpAbS9er7c6vVaJeX0fgTJVf2JxA6SpRGCJjmhO5erx28ITE2 jRKkRsfB34Rz1oRIR8X4saqG1yMnDLB1i9rQKcyJCIs/L42aipcsm+dwsDjthkUhULAv ZJ3M6DRiopd94BdgrH3Wx9m0s9nCrthEY1iq8bssCGUI14PMBU7QUFa3qW+S2h22vPLT vj+UpJB5tcpH8GDFli7J+wSKMsSEWWTMP1f4Kz1xyBhZO0EIQbvU/EEAOT9mfApBrH7C sNJH4O/99D8ReuvvvivChcqkfmOCetDzkbHFsXp6HbtBqx1BhdKnxkbTtbI9Oyh8pXIt +ZZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.27.199 with SMTP id e49mr17922361wea.45.1339013625540; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.39 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:13:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:13:47 -0000 Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? First, some sanity... Users could fully utilize the UEFI Secure Boot hardware by say: - Using openssl to generate their keys - Jumper the board, burn it into the BIOS in UEFI SB SetupMode - Have all the MBR, slice, partition, installkernel, etc tools install and manage the signed disk/loader/kernel/module bits - Have the BIOS check sigs on whatever first comes off the media I don't see that the user will actually NOT be able to do this on anything but 'designed for windows only' ARM systems. Seeing how open Android/Linux is firmly in that space, this will just devalue the non open windows product. There have been 25 years of generic mass produced motherboards. And 25 years of open source OS commits to utilize them. That is not changing anytime soon. Non generic attempts fail. Even corporate kings Dell and HP know they would be foolish to sell motherboards that will not allow their buyers to swap out the PK keys... because they know their buyers run more than just windows and that they need various security models. And if they really were that dumb, there's Gigabyte, Asus, Msi, Supermicro, Biostar, etc who will not be so dumb and will soak up all the remaining sales gravy. The masses have seen and now want openness, open systems, sharing. The old models are but speed bumps on their own way out the door. Though it seems a non issue to me, if you want to protest, protest for 'Setup Mode'. And not here on this list, but to the hardware makers. We should want to use this PKI in our systems. Not disable it. Not pay $100 to terminate the PKI chain early. Not pay $100 to lock us into unmodifiable releases (aka: BSD corporate version). I look forward to seeing the UEFI SB PK SetupMode AMD and Intel generic motherboard list :) On to facts... http://www.uefi.org/ Spec Chapter 27 Secure Boot, SetupMode, PK, Shell, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_EFI_Forum http://ozlabs.org/docs/uefi-secure-boot-impact-on-linux.pdf https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html http://mjg59.livejournal.com/ https://www.tianocore.org/ http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=962584 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:14:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBD8106567C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424248FC1F for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56KEtVS034105; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:14:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:14:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206062014.q56KEtVS034105@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tomdean@speakeasy.org In-Reply-To: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:14:29 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 12:33:25 2012 > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:28:19 -0700 > From: "Thomas D. Dean" > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Why Clang > > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? > > I would like to know the reasoning. There were several reasons; 1) the proliferation of "non-standard" things that the GNU crowd calls 'features' in newer versions of the compiler -- some of which actually break 'standards compliant' code. 2) The proliferation of situations under which newer versions of the GCC compiler generate 'bad code' -- code that does *NOT* do what it is supposed to do. 3) The GPL, version *3* -- which applies to all newer versions of the GCC compiler -- is unacceptable to a large part of the FreeBSD community. Items 1) and 2) were ongoing nuisances. Item 3) all by itself, was the deal breaker. clang was selected over alternatives -- including keeping the 'old' (GPL v2) GCC, on the basis of: a) better standards compliance. b) *FAR* better error messages. c) guality of generated code. d) 'non-restrictive' licensing. The GPL V3 has been responsible for a lot of people, besides FreeBSD, going looking for alternatives to any GPL-licensed code. GNU is well on the way to 'radicalizing' itself out of significance. They would rather be ideologically pure than 'widely accepted'. It _is_ their right to do so, but it makes life 'difficult' for those who have interests in building profit-based products using their tools. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:35:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608661065688 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1723C8FC18 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so6260156yhg.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=+bIerV045OaDZ2p4u11Gk80Ry4ndAkh6yHMWORZWvRc=; b=njhK7+UblQMiU/3H0yB5R9k3CwtYIejLy6win9LzFSPCPVwa8LdF6MnICdF8+VCZKm WmpCK4zYApm1+whizKwrx0sphfOqwmUNLiNpBnf3auSSmx59lJRgv7MyVdiW83ytu7M0 kiPtFJsagiSKZ+IRzUkc4ZrRIJzwoc3u0I/3iBXaBn7P0JXb9PsdpzMxNXWJy6ABaRQn 2mdzwswjMz8hz1b+HpgQvx1NMeYFQffQP7gcq+XjmObhLx/53QxINHXm0Oy5cyb0mKTY NlwshqCWI+BLwlhYtFKTHNw06kEZw+Rh9CW1tqbp+uXs1J/yL144Q2P/zgH1Z4yyitCn UI8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.42.130 with SMTP id o2mr8184810igl.37.1339014941354; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.42.217.6 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:35:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: v8jyb8wrCfWXMHyElL1ZajcwqDw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "Dave U. Random" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlj2ym7c7cKa7avmeECPfxxlPsJhzTseilIxvXU1lr6t2otHqA9Tv4h8y3LSSaRV5g4//Q4 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:35:43 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave U. Random wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the >> > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to >> > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > > It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's > an overgrown ugly mess. > > We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware > and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free > hardware. > But this is more to do with the BIOS than with Intel as such. Wasn't there a FreeBIOS, later LinuxBIOS, now coreboot I believe..? So replacing the BIOS entirely wouldn't suffice to override all this nonsense? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:42:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCF9106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34FE78FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31733 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2012 20:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2012 20:42:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=IgmaRRVRKd5TpZpAyB/ScBaaO9qCrr7dOUskcH1kaf0=; b=DPkFS87HNdW7XgG40UIUYigBkPozxWM5Pk5RYW6/buIGP5Os2VRdO2WiqBG8wvMhYwrhVS5R7xmiStxL0iShLvVwBOgh3lFp9AGylpP2fU52ZOQZCloodEDesQggGjHw; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=63540 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ScN3k-0002p1-1V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:42:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:42:27 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120606204227.GA1495@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF4BB8.8040703@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FCF4BB8.8040703@my.gd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:42:29 -0000 On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 02:23:20PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > I agree with the whole post except that last bit about ICANN Matthew. > > The US already has enough dominance as is, without involving ICANN, a > supposedly neutral body (yeah right...) any further. Indeed. The last thing we need is some self-appointed "authority" purporting to have the last word on what qualifies as "secure". There is no need for a third-party certification of secure booting. If there is need for such a secure booting mechanism at all, it is a need for the ability of end-of-chain device owners to be able to set their own keys, without the involvement of any third parties, and an out-of-band key verification mechanism. Once again, I feel it incumbent upon me to point to examples like OpenPGP's keyserver network as the counter-proposal to a cetifying "authority" charging money to allow people to control their own system security in what amounts to a vacant lot scam. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 20:57:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34660106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E708FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP343 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:57:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP343.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:57:54 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W72Jx4Tq7z2CG4D for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:57:53 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2012 20:57:55.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B82D7B0:01CD4427] Subject: pulseaudio error message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:57:57 -0000 The message log on my machine is filling up with this error message: Jun 6 11:36:55 raven pulseaudio[6440]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. Jun 6 11:36:58 raven pulseaudio[6440]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. Jun 6 11:59:54 raven pulseaudio[6440]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. Jun 6 12:00:04 raven pulseaudio[6440]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. Jun 6 12:00:04 raven pulseaudio[6440]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink. Sometimes only one or two lines are written and at others it is four or five lines. Can anyone tell me exactly what is transpiring here? -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 21:22:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9158106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@whattheflag.info) Received: from whattheflag.info (v220110691795706.yourvserver.net [188.40.182.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7801A8FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by whattheflag.info (Postfix, from userid 104) id 8729F2B0E5CB; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:22:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Dave U. Random Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:22:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:22:49 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > anyway NOBODY are forced to buy micro-soft software. That's almost correct but not quite. In 99% of the cases any Intel commodity mafiaware comes with a preinstalled Winblows. You're paying for it whether you want it or not. You can get a refund in many cases but it's more effort than most peoples' time is worth. > Nobody is forced to buy a PC. True. I got rid of all my Intel mafiaware a few years ago and I don't miss it. It's nice in the winter as well. > Doing this with PC market will result in larger market share for > non-Wintel hardware. I hope it does but sheeple are stupid and don't care. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 21:42:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1FE106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620EF8FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so5897744wer.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=QjFBcSvG/eWVXwTZzyf0yHSMQ0ulT01e/4rT+u4FaCU=; b=pzuUEMgx/G6uwO3zYm/pbmps7p212ibLBljnF/hyTHgTYXM1HH39pAK8hYzCIciswo GBjMqKKIXuzeQ/Lm7LORDnCE/arGIicpcHUm1mep+8yrqVnlfShhOdsJn2B8fQSfQCiN x/NBoVro33/wWAtQc9tlj04CaH2SYDpxi/KMxqM6shwdykLVNZ8lVOvrT7nRV2DnmLdq Oi+q0kDjIf0O/hx7jyRMim/TVHHLcStRExrTQR6HdPSazynUD/BnrzVrPbtUmhSYpluo 2ORbKmVaXYA5SvMFPVtfYFZS887JfFW6gtoNH+cuT9owaD1lso4cTNCP6gCw97qLEZX8 hfGA== Received: by 10.216.193.129 with SMTP id k1mr17255983wen.201.1339018966199; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.35.66.146] ([92.90.16.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm3377208wiy.10.2012.06.06.14.42.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:42:45 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:42:37 +0200 To: "Dave U. Random" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnjFSSi0m2lusljhQw+H9ZELJdsu+LcA6jUQd1Eja+9Pk2EvCEwMxhwTTGIhYCFCx29zc04 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:42:47 -0000 On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random = wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >=20 >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the >>> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to >>> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? >=20 > It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It= 's > an overgrown ugly mess. >=20 > We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiwa= re > and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free > hardware. >=20 > There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on > Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good > riddance! >=20 You have no idea what you're talking about. This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor helpful. I don't trust AMD with my servers' CPUs, not since many years ago when they h= ad all these overheating problems.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 22:07:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B573C1065670 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC6A14DE53; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FCFD46B.2070306@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:06:35 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120506 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> <4FCCC1DA.4020202@eskk.nu> <4FCF8141.2040402@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FCF8141.2040402@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5pre OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090803090402060507010903" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 22:07:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090803090402060507010903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/06/2012 09:11, Leslie Jensen wrote: > My initial wish for some information about the build progress is still > very much on the table. Try the attached patch. It essentially adds the progress info that is being put in the TERM title to the in-line printout of the dependency trail that was already there. Let me know what you think, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection --------------090803090402060507010903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; name="portmaster-progress.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="portmaster-progress.diff" Index: portmaster =================================================================== --- portmaster (revision 236697) +++ portmaster (working copy) @@ -2208,6 +2208,8 @@ } term_printf () { + echo -e "\n\t${PM_PARENT_PORT}${1}" + [ -n "$PM_NO_TERM_TITLE" ] && return case "$TERM" in cons*) return ;; esac @@ -2283,7 +2285,7 @@ deps=" (${dep_of_deps}/${num_of_deps})" if [ -n "$PM_DEPTH" ]; then - echo " ${PM_DEPTH}>> ${1#$pd/}" + #echo " ${PM_DEPTH}>> ${1#$pd/}" term_printf " ${PM_DEPTH#* }>> ${1#$pd/}${deps}" else [ -n "$UPDATE_ALL" ] && term_printf " >> ${1#$pd/}${deps}" @@ -2623,7 +2625,7 @@ [ -z "$dep_of_deps" ] && dep_of_deps=0 export PM_PARENT_PORT num_of_deps dep_of_deps - term_printf + #term_printf } if [ -n "$PM_URB" ]; then @@ -2783,6 +2785,7 @@ numports=$(( $numports + 1 )) init_term_printf "$port ${numports}/${numports}" + term_printf ($0 $ARGS $port) || update_failed=update_failed . $IPC_SAVE [ -n "$update_failed" ] && fail "Update for $port failed" @@ -2825,6 +2828,7 @@ num=$(( $num + 1 )) init_term_printf "$port ${num}/${numports}" + term_printf ($0 $ARGS $port) || update_failed=update_failed . $IPC_SAVE [ -n "$update_failed" ] && fail "Update for $port failed" @@ -2978,6 +2982,7 @@ [ -n "$DI_FILES" ] && (read_distinfos)& init_term_printf All + term_printf ports_by_category echo "===>>> Starting check of installed ports for available updates" --------------090803090402060507010903-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 22:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FCD106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692C9151F22; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FCFDC98.5070002@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:41:28 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120506 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4FCA2CAE.6020809@eskk.nu> <4FCA4ACB.9040309@FreeBSD.org> <4FCAFCE0.4070807@eskk.nu> <4FCC6557.40403@eskk.nu> <4FCC66A0.4030405@FreeBSD.org> <4FCC6E7D.50004@eskk.nu> <4FCCC1DA.4020202@eskk.nu> <4FCF8141.2040402@eskk.nu> <4FCFD46B.2070306@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FCFD46B.2070306@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5pre OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020501020600030408090802" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmaster and update progress, suggestion. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 22:41:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020501020600030408090802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/06/2012 15:06, Doug Barton wrote: > On 06/06/2012 09:11, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> My initial wish for some information about the build progress is still >> very much on the table. > > Try the attached patch. Actually try this one instead. :) -- This .signature sanitized for your protection --------------020501020600030408090802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; name="portmaster-progress.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="portmaster-progress.diff" Index: portmaster =================================================================== --- portmaster (revision 236697) +++ portmaster (working copy) @@ -2208,6 +2208,8 @@ } term_printf () { + case "$1" in *\>\>*) echo -e "\n\t${PM_PARENT_PORT}${1}" ;; esac + [ -n "$PM_NO_TERM_TITLE" ] && return case "$TERM" in cons*) return ;; esac @@ -2283,7 +2285,6 @@ deps=" (${dep_of_deps}/${num_of_deps})" if [ -n "$PM_DEPTH" ]; then - echo " ${PM_DEPTH}>> ${1#$pd/}" term_printf " ${PM_DEPTH#* }>> ${1#$pd/}${deps}" else [ -n "$UPDATE_ALL" ] && term_printf " >> ${1#$pd/}${deps}" @@ -2527,19 +2528,16 @@ safe_exit elif [ -n "$PM_FIRST_PASS" -a -z "$PM_PACKAGES" ]; then echo "===>>> Initial dependency check complete for $portdir" - case "$PM_DEPTH" in *\>\>*) echo " $PM_DEPTH" ;; esac else echo "===>>> Dependency check complete for $portdir" - case "$PM_DEPTH" in - *\>\>*) echo " $PM_DEPTH" ;; - *) if [ "$PM_PARENT_PORT" = All ]; then - local deps - deps=" (${dep_of_deps}/${num_of_deps})" - term_printf " >> ${upg_port:-$portdir}${deps}" - else - term_printf - fi ;; - esac + + if [ "$PM_PARENT_PORT" = All ]; then + local deps + deps=" (${dep_of_deps}/${num_of_deps})" + term_printf " >> ${upg_port:-$portdir}${deps}" + else + term_printf + fi fi } # dependency_check() --------------020501020600030408090802-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:10:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BE61065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [93.89.92.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCF18FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79608E64B5; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:11:23 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=btC28Xbtcmu7 xE9TF65XDZdiZ2E=; b=HphwVIjZ3w6JCvsxL8s4iBWMxAx1WsQwODH8JSvM3MVS NK1oJLe2yq1aNAsjfb/9HtEQT1nz6YDNfCH0Gb2sBn3DbsDJsEZ+lipBLjPGYaF+ 0LzmSfaxfHZUTgrWsWgKIwimQ5QeVycQSp7sF933SqJiQutn1wIlleecO2EA1HE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=JpbkSh 8gtbRk3gBrDGN5S+fiJTPuG0XE/6flGgcxzMjNeRF66mBWb8/tCcIOQ3jklJuSNZ 3W5kxMBs2AjDUGeTgO9wnAb46CcA85vSY+KWKowHZj+fKGfgZvUOdW+le2GzBGCz ltSRt3r5urGp51Th3lGwLnPORKFs1rhAQaigY= Received: from [192.168.2.12] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0FF0E643C; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:11:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FCFE342.2050809@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:09:54 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201206061927.q56JRPLp033735@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206061927.q56JRPLp033735@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:10:47 -0000 On 06/06/2012 20:27, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Suppose I put up a web app that takes an executable as input, signs it > with my key, and returns the signed filt to the submitter. I don't > divulge the key to anyone, just use it on 'anything'. Anybody > attempting to revoke on _that_ basis is asking for a lawsuit. To me it would be perfectly reasonable to revoke the key as soon as you signed the first piece of malware. And then anyone who has used the service is left with broken binaries, so the model fails. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:22:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F3B106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from betts@norden1.com) Received: from soa.norden1.com (cblmdm72-240-117-110.buckeyecom.net [72.240.117.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F338FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by soa.norden1.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA800804B6 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from soa.norden1.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (soa.norden1.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03723-08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.norden1.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by soa.norden1.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2198B8043A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24.52.68.111 (SquirrelMail authenticated user betts@norden1.com) by webmail.norden1.com with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:16:24 -0400 Message-ID: <11872b41d581ea0ba80400b5bc45c170.squirrel@webmail.norden1.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:16:24 -0400 From: betts@norden1.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Blank page after log in to phpmyadmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:22:05 -0000 I have a blank white page after I log into phpmyadmin. I have upgraded to php 5.4.3 along with the extensions. Also upgraded to current phpmyadmin. Have checked the error logs and nothing is showing in the logs. Any idea what happended. phpmyadmin was working before upgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:31:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD05106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3028FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScPh2-000462-NZ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:31:14 -0400 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA291309D10; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FCFE83F.1000205@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:31:11 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: betts@norden1.com References: <11872b41d581ea0ba80400b5bc45c170.squirrel@webmail.norden1.com> In-Reply-To: <11872b41d581ea0ba80400b5bc45c170.squirrel@webmail.norden1.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blank page after log in to phpmyadmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:31:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6/6/12 7:16 PM, betts@norden1.com wrote: > I have a blank white page after I log into phpmyadmin. I have > upgraded to php 5.4.3 along with the extensions. Also upgraded to > current phpmyadmin. Have checked the error logs and nothing is > showing in the logs. Any idea what happended. phpmyadmin was > working before upgrade. > > Hi there, This is typically caused by a PHP-related error of some sort. Have you enable the error_log directive in your php.ini file? If not, do that and restart your server. After loading the page again, check the file and you should have some indication of what's wrong. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/P6D8ACgkQ0sRouByUApClwwCfbKt4LmaJ+pKiIss/Av95CuTQ 8nUAnAzfNrx4fs78ej6UFuf0G5i5bpln =XAa7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:32:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E0A106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2008FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF89A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.248.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q56NWhom037586; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:32:43 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q56NWWgX008561; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:32:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q56NWJQ1096469; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:32:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206062332.q56NWJQ1096469@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Daniel Feenberg From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:45:48 EDT." Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:32:19 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:32:46 -0000 > > Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? > > A limited-liability company with no assets is judgement-proof. There's set up & running costs (time & money), & other exposure http://berklix.com/~jhs/mecc/ltd_gmbh.html Easiest done by those who have done it before, One would be careful, there's exposure to directors individual liabilities eg fraud laws perhaps in some scenarios, & not wanting to be struck off & listed as somone not allowed to be a director of other companies. > > Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, & then publish > > the key so we could all forever more compile & boot our own kernels. > > But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft & Verisign seek > > to impose. > > > > Could it really be that simple? I doubt it. Even if so, best avoid one individual in the firing line. It's not nice being a small company director personaly targeted by lawyers of a rich malicious company. Being in another country gives little protection, remote lawyers hire local lawyers to harass. They don't even need a good chance of winning, inventive threats, stress & costs unpleasant. Best activate officials with big budgets & manpower to fight back. We should unite with other Free Source groups & approach & inform eg the Competition Commisioner of the European Union (which has already fined MS heavily before on anti monopoly issues) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Microsoft_competition_case http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23366103/ns/business-world_business/t/eu-fines-microsoft-record-billion/ I recall George Bush junior quashed the last go at breaking up Microsoft, but maybe the present USA govt. could be encouraged to fine MS, even if they don't fancy breaking the monopoly aka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:35:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAAC1065673 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41DFA8FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ::ffff:69.12.202.165 ([69.12.202.165]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:33:39 -0700 Message-ID: <4FCFE8D3.7020201@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:33:39 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120507 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Which FreeBSD for Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:35:46 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have a new computer with an Intel i7-2600S processor and DQ67SWB3 motherboard that I'd like to run with ZFS, virtual machine host, desktop, Samba, and terminal server (on second NIC). Can this be done with FreeBSD; if so, which distribution and ports/packages do I need? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:39:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2545106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8FD8FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so8892ggn.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=88rW1WZQqj4R5BY9NlbDOoPuSw8y1vzsPFDUtNkgd6E=; b=bp5KILOpDRQgic/j/nJ5QNR8lF+uMNTnLPanlU60VnW0v38l3Fa9Pnhy4VQio6lwvi 8xfRo7wJlqFzNjma+z6wsTAhrgEjqdXZTFVxSdlXvH7e9LZIFmSPknkyS7A+oteywef9 04knUxelKMZ9ZhF3j3CyVRlhEH8RZz6/Fyf+uTxnpnl++jl2o9kFnWeigsFacT3XM+kc z4hwrMl8f//ICITsi2XedWL4iSKuM3gIPC+Lye29f0WeXRSbeR+K+ULbsiIwv5momAlB Uj5R4LYzisvnz30kUE6VtDvL3rmZfG+zyF7sWHoTnQwAqTum6NU9REEnuY+/l5/2Brj4 w6pw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.190.199 with SMTP id e47mr17839897yhn.107.1339025970886; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.123.13 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:39:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:39:31 -0000 Thank you for this. I didn't realize that a simple (somewhat technical) question asked in all innocence would generate so much flammage. Kurt On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:13 PM, grarpamp wrote: > Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is > pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all > boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? > > > First, some sanity... > > Users could fully utilize the UEFI Secure Boot hardware by say: > > - Using openssl to generate their keys > - Jumper the board, burn it into the BIOS in UEFI SB SetupMode > - Have all the MBR, slice, partition, installkernel, etc tools > install and manage the signed disk/loader/kernel/module bits > - Have the BIOS check sigs on whatever first comes off the media > > I don't see that the user will actually NOT be able to do this on > anything but 'designed for windows only' ARM systems. Seeing how > open Android/Linux is firmly in that space, this will just devalue > the non open windows product. > > There have been 25 years of generic mass produced motherboards. > And 25 years of open source OS commits to utilize them. > That is not changing anytime soon. Non generic attempts fail. > > Even corporate kings Dell and HP know they would be foolish to sell > motherboards that will not allow their buyers to swap out the PK > keys... because they know their buyers run more than just windows > and that they need various security models. > > And if they really were that dumb, there's Gigabyte, Asus, Msi, > Supermicro, Biostar, etc who will not be so dumb and will soak up > all the remaining sales gravy. > > The masses have seen and now want openness, open systems, sharing. > The old models are but speed bumps on their own way out the door. > > Though it seems a non issue to me, if you want to protest, protest > for 'Setup Mode'. And not here on this list, but to the hardware > makers. > > We should want to use this PKI in our systems. Not disable it. Not > pay $100 to terminate the PKI chain early. Not pay $100 to lock us > into unmodifiable releases (aka: BSD corporate version). > > I look forward to seeing the UEFI SB PK SetupMode AMD and Intel > generic motherboard list :) > > > On to facts... > > http://www.uefi.org/ > =C2=A0Spec Chapter 27 Secure Boot, SetupMode, PK, Shell, etc > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_EFI_Forum > http://ozlabs.org/docs/uefi-secure-boot-impact-on-linux.pdf > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot > http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html > http://mjg59.livejournal.com/ > https://www.tianocore.org/ > http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=3DPNphpBB2&file=3Dviewtopic&p=3D9= 62584 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:53:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8D8106567C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667478FC14 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q56NsMAA037016 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:54:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:54:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206062354.q56NsMAA037016@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FCFE342.2050809@cran.org.uk> Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:53:55 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 18:13:09 2012 > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:09:54 +0100 > From: Bruce Cran > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware > of? > > On 06/06/2012 20:27, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Suppose I put up a web app that takes an executable as input, signs it > > with my key, and returns the signed filt to the submitter. I don't > > divulge the key to anyone, just use it on 'anything'. Anybody > > attempting to revoke on _that_ basis is asking for a lawsuit. > > To me it would be perfectly reasonable to revoke the key as soon as you > signed the first piece of malware. It may seem reasonable to you, but is there -legal- basis to do so? 'signing' only provides assurance of the identity of the signer. I did sign it. The key has not been compromised. The software in question is tracable to the signer, but the signer never claimed it was 'error free', what conract or statute did they breach by doing the signing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 23:59:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00551065670 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com [17.158.161.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8243E8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5700IUGZZCO560@nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:59:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-06_06:2012-05-21, 2012-06-06, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206060281 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <201206062354.q56NsMAA037016@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:59:36 -0700 Message-id: References: <201206062354.q56NsMAA037016@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: Robert Bonomi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:59:43 -0000 On Jun 6, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: [ ... ] > It may seem reasonable to you, but is there -legal- basis to do so? Go ask your lawyer. freebsd-questions isn't qualified to provide you with legal advice. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 00:08:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9BD106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F79C8FC08 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5709OMS037173 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:09:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:09:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206070009.q5709OMS037173@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:08:57 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 19:01:14 2012 > From: Chuck Swiger > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:59:36 -0700 > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be > aware of? > > On Jun 6, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > [ ... ] > > It may seem reasonable to you, but is there -legal- basis to do so? > > Go ask your lawyer. freebsd-questions isn't qualified to provide you with legal advice. Thank you for your opinion. However, if you had bothered to read the thread you woul understand that it was not a solicitation of legal advice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 00:28:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB98106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wbe@psr.com) Received: from smtp1.sccoast.net (smtp1.sccoast.net [66.153.203.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FBC8FC17 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.psr.com ([67.212.42.216]:20318 helo=psr.com) by smtp1.sccoast.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ScQH8-0003Oy-R3 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:08:30 -0400 Received: (from wbe@localhost) by psr.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5708LAL009438; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:08:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wbe) Message-Id: <201206070008.q5708LAL009438@psr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:08 EDT From: Winston To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=fixed Cc: Subject: bug in /usr/bin/calendar: "Thu+1" doesn't match on 7th or December X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:28:08 -0000 Bug report for /usr/bin/calendar SUMMARY: calendar does not match "Thu+1" or "Mon+1" in some months. With one exception, it looks like calendar file dates such as "Thu+1" and "Mon+1" are failing to match in two cases: (1) the 7th of Jan-Nov, and (2) December. DETAILS/EXAMPLES: FreeBSD crystal 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 The bug occurs whether or not the command line options below are used. I first noticed it today (a Wednesday) because a Thu+1 event tomorrow was not in calendar's output. Example 1: Thu+1 ~/.calendar/calendar: Thu+1 foo (that's "Thu+1\tfoo\n" in C) foreach i ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ) &calendar -t 1.$i.2011 -W 9 &end Jan 6* foo Feb 3* foo Mar 3* foo <----- Apr 7 absent May 5* foo Jun 2* foo <----- Jul 7 absent Aug 4* foo Sep 1* foo Oct 6* foo Nov 3* foo <----- Dec 1 absent foreach i ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ) &calendar -t 1.$i.2012 -W 9 &end Jan 5* foo Feb 2* foo Mar 1* foo Apr 5* foo May 3* foo <----- Jun 7 absent Jul 5* foo Aug 2* foo Sep 6* foo Oct 4* foo Nov 1* foo <----- Dec 6 absent foreach i ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ) &calendar -t 1.$i.2013 -W 9 &end Jan 3* foo <----- Feb 7 absent <----- Mar 7 absent Apr 4* foo May 2* foo Jun 6* foo Jul 4* foo Aug 1* foo Sep 5* foo Oct 3* foo <----- Nov 7 absent <----- Dec 5 absent Example 2: Mon+1 foo: Mon+1 foo ("Mon+1\tfoo\n") foreach i ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ) &calendar -t 1.$i.2011 -W 9 -f foo &end Jan 3* foo <----- Feb 7 absent <----- Mar 7 absent Apr 4* foo May 2* foo Jun 6* foo Jul 4* foo Aug 1* foo Sep 5* foo Oct 3* foo <----- Nov 7 absent <----- Dec 5 absent foreach i ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ) &calendar -t 1.$i.2012 -W 9 -f foo &end Jan 2* foo Feb 6* foo Mar 5* foo Apr 2* foo <----- May 3 absent <------- EXCEPTION! Jun 4* foo Jul 2* foo Aug 6* foo Sep 3* foo Oct 1* foo Nov 5* foo <----- Dec 3 absent foreach i ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ) &calendar -t 1.$i.2013 -W 9 -f foo &end <----- Jan 7 absent Feb 4* foo Mar 4* foo Apr 1* foo May 6* foo Jun 3* foo Jul 1* foo Aug 5* foo Sep 2* foo <----- Oct 7 absent Nov 4* foo <----- Dec 2 absent HTH, -WBE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 00:32:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E3106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BD58FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF89A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.248.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q570W7RH039441; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:32:08 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q570W1Nx008814; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:32:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q570VhqW097184; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:31:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206070031.q570VhqW097184@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthew Seaman From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:55:19 BST." <4FCF9987.6080803@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:31:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:32:09 -0000 > > (cf. EULA) that you accept those "licensing of hardware". > Also, I think you'll find that such actions are already illegal > certainly in the UK, and I believe EU wide. Yes illegal for English law (England & Scotland have different contract laws). Contract terms given after money changes hands are Not part of contract. (Reasonable Eh ?) Case law since in UK, NCP National Car Park lost an appeals court decision on their nasty disclaimers visible only after you'd paid to enter car park. (PS Matthew, I noticed in Canterbury NCP built an escape lane in their car park after. So one could then queue up to park, theoreticaly block the lane, & read super fast all the disclaimers, before deciding to either pay & enter or take the sharp curve out. I've always hoped all the (usually American) legal rubbish in the sealed packages I bought in Germany were on same principle irrelevant, (but no idea). USA companies later learnt to ship with front page in transparent bags, but still not usualy readable till after purchase. Maybe USA "restraint of trade" laws could penalise a monopolist working to convert a market to sell computers that (if amd64) have been been crippled to only work with associate bsuiness partners ? Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 00:47:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4334C1065674 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46248FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF89A.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.248.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q570l6q3039511; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:47:07 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q570l0fZ008829; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:47:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q570kfhu097244; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:46:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206070046.q570kfhu097244@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Winston From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:08:00 EDT." <201206070008.q5708LAL009438@psr.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:46:41 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug in /usr/bin/calendar: "Thu+1" doesn't match on 7th or December X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:47:09 -0000 Hi, Please report bugs with send-pr (cos bug reports to mail list get lost) See man send-pr If you can attach a patch to fix it, so much the better Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 01:03:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59386106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@whattheflag.info) Received: from whattheflag.info (v220110691795706.yourvserver.net [188.40.182.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B1E8FC1B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by whattheflag.info (Postfix, from userid 104) id 275572B0E60A; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 03:03:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Dave U. Random Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 03:03:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:03:45 -0000 Mark Felder wrote: > Yes, let's all run ALPHA and MIPS hardware. I'll just jam my Nvidia card > into one of the available slots and everything should work OK, right? Dear Numbskull, It's co-dependent hostages like you who enable Intel Mafiaware. According to your logic we should all be using Windows since everything just works, right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 01:34:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461E01065700; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9C38FC0C; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:34:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=Message-Id:Cc:To:Date:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References; bh=IarqHJhgrqHGZNSh7E1xB9AoGAB0qoxkUwdvRnZVOz0=; b=ARDs/R+vPy4NCITykcz3cD0v2XW+pKlrUgSATYG1Y9vd0DcsgjsuKhAbwpesLhI1IzbziJE0HPu95IYmIsSr1rJ94jUF2CMjtqCZU3+FAWvlS3fC+0KeYqTHNqZRzeRB; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScRbu-000NNn-7r; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:34:03 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339032836-26372-26371/5/49; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:33:56 +0000 References: <201205311048.45813.jhb@freebsd.org> <201205311157.42909.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <201205311157.42909.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Mark Felder Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:34:02 -0500 To: John Baldwin Message-Id: <19d73256-b7c6-417e-a051-a5faeabf219d@email.android.com> X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:34:04 -0000 Hi guys I'm excitedly posting this from my phone. Good news for you = guys, bad news for us -- we were building HA storage on vmware for a = client and can now replicate the crash on demand. I'll be posting = details when I get home to my PC tonight, but this hopefully is enough = to replicate the crash for any curious followers: ESXi 5 9 or 9-STABLE HAST=20 1 cpu is fine 1GB of ram UFS SUJ on HAST device No special loader.conf, sysctl, etc No need for VMWare tools Run Bonnie++ on the HAST device We can get the crash to happen on the first run of bonnie++ right now. = I'll post the exact specs and precise command run in the PR. We found an = old post from 2004 when we looked up the process state obtained from = CTRL+T -- flswai -- which describes the symptoms nearly perfectly. http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2004-02/0250.html= =20 Hopefully this gets us closer to a fix... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 02:21:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A02A1065672 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from remailer.privacy.at (remailer.privacy.at [212.124.141.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74CF8FC14 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by remailer.privacy.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CB57FF08 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:01:42 +0200 (CEST) From: "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> Message-ID: <27a296669e8751b8ba2af6a3c14a3e9b@remailer.privacy.at> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:21:02 -0000 Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random wrote: > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > >>> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > >>> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > > > > It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > > NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's > > an overgrown ugly mess. > > > > We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware > > and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free > > hardware. > > > > There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on > > Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good > > riddance! > > > > You have no idea what you're talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about. Does that count? > This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor > helpful. But your expansive and well-reasoned "rebuttal" is? Is mafiaware a religious issue? I thought it was common sense. Thanks for your half-assed attempt to marginalize it. I don't think you were successful. If at first... > I don't trust AMD with my servers' CPUs, not since many years ago when > they had all these overheating problems. I don't really care about that. But I'm sure you feel better after getting it off your chest. Still, that doesn't have to do with two major corporations conspiring to butt-fuck the consumer. At most it involved one company. So, for now, this is more important than what you wanted to talk about. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 02:25:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D9A106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAF38FC1F for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241C01AA20F for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xeIE9SOOr7Bg for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:25:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 14A2F1D402B; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:25:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:25:38 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave U. Random > wrote: > > Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > >> > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > >> > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > > > > It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > > NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's > > an overgrown ugly mess. > > > > We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiaware > > and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free > > hardware. > > > > But this is more to do with the BIOS than with Intel as such. Intel and Microshaft conspired together and now they get to decide what BIOS they sell you. They figured out a way to make it harder for non-Winblows OS to be installed on most commodity shitboxes made after this goes into effect. > Wasn't there a FreeBIOS, later LinuxBIOS, now coreboot I believe..? I can tell from your question it was a smashing success. Everybody uses it. Somebody's heard of it? > So replacing the BIOS entirely wouldn't suffice to override all this > nonsense? Probably but very few people can flash their own BIOS. Hell, they can't even install a copy of Windows bought off the shelf...What if the BIOS has protection against reflashing? Otherwise it won't be secure... Just because smart people can work around something doesn't make it right. Say "NO" to the Intel and Microshaft mafia, say "NO" to "secure boot" that isn't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 03:33:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D3106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 03:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937958FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 03:33:37 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LpwMBZjTQLRiI2i0ioPrXzKLicHDUlbjmqBOr0CglPQ= c=1 sm=0 a=NKak1Zy_U9wA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=IimOfUeSENwA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ZubcGFkXAAAA:8 a=0ukqzmndOXj8U9evFakA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=CeCXPTdWX8cA:10 a=6HS/Esr6SxOSn4gf+UdElA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 10.51.1.65 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.51.1.65] ([10.51.1.65:44137] helo=md03.insight.synacor.com) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 0F/15-07481-B0120DF4; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:33:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:33:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Mueller To: David Christensen Message-ID: <1841053140.95816.1339040011608.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCFE8D3.7020201@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [74.134.26.53] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.8_GA_2685 (zclient/6.0.8_GA_2685) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD for Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:33:37 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: David Christensen I have a new computer with an Intel i7-2600S processor and DQ67SWB3 motherboard that I'd like to run with ZFS, virtual machine host, desktop, Samba, and terminal server (on second NIC). Can this be done with FreeBSD; if so, which distribution and ports/packages do I need? ----- My response, from awkward Insight webmail interface: This looks like the processor I have, I think you would use amd64. Almost certainly your system is 64-bit as opposed to 32-bit. For a new computer, I wouldn't go with anything earlier than FreeBSD 9.0, and in my case, upgrading to 9.0-STABLE proved stabler than the 9.0 release. Base system includes ZFS. I've never used virtual machines, but VirtualBox is popular for this purpose. Samba is in ports. I don't recognize or don't remember DQ67SWB3 motherboard model, is it from MSI? Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 05:18:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB789106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BDC8FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:18:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=eIiRfQV1 c=1 sm=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=xCuMbNp8hPoA:10 a=OA0Fmnw7F14A:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=MnkTnmICAAAA:8 a=onTmk75lrT2WfxXp8uIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VAeyC-Qft3gA:10 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 204.210.114.114 Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:63657] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EF/3B-15196-C9930DF4; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:18:21 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB43A5C8D; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:19:01 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:19:01 -1000 From: Parv To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20120607051901.GA2205@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Tim Daneliuk , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Somewhat OT - A Makefile Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:18:23 -0000 in message <4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com>, wrote Tim Daneliuk thusly... > ... > Within a makefile, I need to assign the name of a program as in: > > FOO = "bar". > > The problem is that 'bar' may also be know as, say, "bar.sh". ... > Is there a simple way to determine which form "bar" or "bar.sh" on > on a given system *at the time the make is run*? If both exist, I > will pick one arbitrarily, ... > For example I don't think this works when both are there: > > FOO = $(shell `which bar bar.sh) Modify the subshell command to ... which bar bar.sh | head -n 1 ... as in (for FreeBSD make) ... shell=`which zsh sh tcsh csh 2>/dev/null | fgrep -v 'not found' | head -n 3` all: @printf "%s\n" ${shell} - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 05:27:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3435A106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAF298FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15026 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jun 2012 05:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2012 05:27:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=LfpH/AJ4kcP5jiwtiJ+Oou7kGZ7qDNWGbzYX0aohHhw=; b=My1o7DHNCMstOkllW4qEIXlbIRXt+PZtqsojcqVIznzyG5koTZrHk30lTNhbZbgosMcxPpyT8jYg+xQ0xl+u7T1Hxdhk1gy/3G0M5NFlUdB8KMg5WcBTp9KK3KJVQymf; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=61437 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ScVG0-0004cZ-7P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:27:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:27:39 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120607052739.GB12857@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:27:41 -0000 On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 03:05:00PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then > threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use > 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I > don't see that changing anytime soon. I have immediately installed FreeBSD on the last four or five laptops I purchased, and I get most of my laptops direct from Lenovo. While my Significant Other has been installing Debian on her laptops, also acquired from Lenovo, she is probably going to start using FreeBSD instead next time. I know several other people who install FreeBSD on their new primary-use systems when they get them, including a couple of developers who do MS Windows development (among other things). This doesn't even take into account the servers many of us use, which are even more likely to get FreeBSD installed, and none of this has anything to do with corporate accounts or bulk purchases. Yes, my evidence is anecdotal, but I think your notions of the frequency of FreeBSD use other than in a corporate setting are also based on anecdotal observations, so we're even. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 05:40:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17FA106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B44F8FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q575eViY013281 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:40:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD03ECF.3030500@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:40:31 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:40:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: mount failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:40:38 -0000 Running under X with xfce, just did this: gpart show -l da0 gpart delete -i 1 da0 gpart destroy da0 gpart create -s GPT da0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr da0 gpart add -t freebsd-boot -i 1 -s 512K -l gptboot da0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 35G -i 2 -l fbsdroot da0 gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4K -s 512M -i 3 -l fbsdswap da0 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 1G -i 4 -l fbsdvar da0 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 512M -i 5 -l fbsdtmp da0 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 893G -i 6 -l fbsdusr da0 newfs /dev/gpt/fbsdroot newfs -U /dev/gpt/fbsdvar newfs -U /dev/gpt/fbsdtmp newfs -U /dev/gpt/fbsdusr mount /dev/gpt/fbsdroot /mnt/goflex I then tried to create a snapshot of / X immediately slowed to less than a crawl, and I couldn't do anything. At first I could move the pointer a little, but then I lost it. After a half hour or so, I power-cycled and rebooted. When I tried to mount the usb drive, I (not surprisingly) got this: #mount /dev/gpt/fbsdroot /mnt/goflex/root mount: /dev/gpt/fbsdroot : operation not permitted WARNING: RW mount of /mnt/goflex denied. File system is not clean - run fsck. But when I try to do an fsck, I can't: #fsck /dev/gpt/fbsdroot fsdk: could not determine filesystem type (same msg for /dev/gpt and /dev/da0p2) hints? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 06:55:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383FB106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 06:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7498FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 06:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q576tIgW009526; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:55:19 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:55:12 +0700 Message-ID: <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20120607052739.GB12857@hemlock.hydra> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> <20120607052739.GB12857@hemlock.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Chad Perrin Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 06:55:21 -0000 Hi, On 06 June 2012 23:27:39 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 03:05:00PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then > > threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use > > 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I > > don't see that changing anytime soon. > I believe that real life is a bit different. > I have immediately installed FreeBSD on the last four or five laptops I I do this since 5.2 is out with all my purchases. I did the same thing with other machines in my environment. But I have to admit, that I have had to install twice Fedora because the notebook hardware was not supported at that moment of time. The second Fedora installation will go as soon as get finished my travelling or I get me hands on a new hard disk. Yes, I am in a location where you can enjoy life without any IT shop nearby which could even try to pull the money out of my pockets. What also has to be mentioned is the fact that people have to be more careful when shopping for new hardware with FreeBSD in mind. AMD based hardware is here of advantage at the moment. But it has other disadvantages. > purchased, and I get most of my laptops direct from Lenovo. While my The machine on which I installed Fedora is also from Lenovo. It would have needed a bit of more time to get X running on it. When I ran out of time, I installed Fedora which ran out of the box. Ubuntu did not work out of the box despite being certified. In this aspect, the full integration of Intel's graphic solution into FreeBSD will help acceptance here. > Significant Other has been installing Debian on her laptops, also Ah, learning English with FreeBSD. I did not knew of this phrase before. > acquired from Lenovo, she is probably going to start using FreeBSD > instead next time. I know several other people who install FreeBSD on My 'Significant Other' - you see, I am a fast learner - knows only FreeBSD. You should see her getting emotional when she has to work with Windows and things break in front of her eyes. She is no IT person at all and wants to use a computer with the ease of using a hammer. Of course, she never faces the problems maintaining a system. All she knows is that the machine is starting every time she needs it and continues to work until she switches it of. > Yes, my evidence is anecdotal, but I think your notions of the frequency > of FreeBSD use other than in a corporate setting are also based on > anecdotal observations, so we're even. I can tell you another real ironic story out of the cooperate world. A client needed a firewall. He did not believe that we could do it for him using FreeBSD and PC hardware. He bought then a 'real' firewall. You know what OS was running on this hardware? There was a nice price tag on this hardware too. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 07:09:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3211065686 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244178FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:09:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=NbpkJh/4 c=1 sm=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=xCuMbNp8hPoA:10 a=EgbgpaWM0DsA:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=9kYh05RIAAAA:8 a=WuNwfNAG3RGmgeiKH08A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 204.210.114.114 Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:40883] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/58-22753-DA350DF4; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:09:34 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C9F6C5C8D; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:10:14 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:10:14 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Erich Message-ID: <20120607071014.GA53109@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Erich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chad Perrin References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> <20120607052739.GB12857@hemlock.hydra> <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com> Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:09:35 -0000 in message <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com>, wrote Erich thusly... > > On 06 June 2012 23:27:39 Chad Perrin wrote: ... > > I have immediately installed FreeBSD on the last four or five > > laptops I > > I do this since 5.2 is out with all my purchases. ... > I have to admit, that I have had to install twice Fedora because > the notebook hardware was not supported at that moment of time. > > The second Fedora installation will go as soon as get finished my > travelling or I get me hands on a new hard disk. Erich, could you please list the offending Lenovo models? ... > What also has to be mentioned is the fact that people have to be > more careful when shopping for new hardware with FreeBSD in mind. > AMD based hardware is here of advantage at the moment. But it has > other disadvantages. ... What would be the said disadvantages? - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 07:40:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00E01065673 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356398FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so247380wgb.31 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:40:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=X6dyQIh6/6Q2wFwWJtiw1OtAAcv1JJ4YsU45pp7O608=; b=LwdArsOSMwWpt240+cOVKhIxnU2OpZApmofpU9ypeT8HFXYpsyY2jpm2WNJOAhi/QN m70Fc/HCIWJpvCb2DKxW5dfJCzL5HAulZEYyoN0+AzzQ8ecYW2LCsbP8ScvcCRqZmgH5 63Ml7WeVV4ZRLigvJojo3iRYWidQPQZL0i7YMuy5DkaZBtzxD9FccfdWUjjmpoN0c6Ms kHStxIg7r9SU2/LWfCgux8/MaN+nmv2td38TVI8pTXqlmopB9d4fsL7ltsyhu6oeyJYl cjQH9GsoHl0cBMwbXyEfNUI+33pXQrBQ0Lra7TDhJJPQBN7YNT2JJJtoiqNKw8qhecI+ 1PZA== Received: by 10.216.193.162 with SMTP id k34mr159554wen.54.1339054840079; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.99.161.69] ([92.90.16.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d10sm8388324wiy.3.2012.06.07.00.40.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:40:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <201206062354.q56NsMAA037016@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206062354.q56NsMAA037016@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <7957D8B9-6317-43DB-9D9D-A12BE7AF494C@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:40:27 +0200 To: Robert Bonomi X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl4Rgi0U4ryC/H4DpY7lwnMxD00HiNM2jhZF+IqylEH0VncZCF3MGhzs44s+dNvO3ACGn5X Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:40:41 -0000 On 7 Jun 2012, at 01:54, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> =46rom owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 18:13:09 2012 >> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:09:54 +0100 >> From: Bruce Cran >> To: Robert Bonomi >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aw= are >> of? >>=20 >> On 06/06/2012 20:27, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> Suppose I put up a web app that takes an executable as input, signs it=20= >>> with my key, and returns the signed filt to the submitter. I don't=20 >>> divulge the key to anyone, just use it on 'anything'. Anybody=20 >>> attempting to revoke on _that_ basis is asking for a lawsuit. >>=20 >> To me it would be perfectly reasonable to revoke the key as soon as you=20= >> signed the first piece of malware. >=20 > It may seem reasonable to you, but is there -legal- basis to do so?=20 >=20 > 'signing' only provides assurance of the identity of the signer. I did > sign it. The key has not been compromised. The software in question=20 > is tracable to the signer, but the signer never claimed it was 'error free= ', > what conract or statute did they breach by doing the signing? =20 >=20 Signing anything and everything defeats the purpose the key and this whole c= harade are implemented for. Under the contract's undoubtedly carefully penned clauses, this would allow f= or a key revocation. Make no mistake, they'll go over that contract for several weeks, giving the= mselves as much manoeuvring room as possible.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 07:46:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22D1065675 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850818FC22 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q577kM5h021714; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 01:46:25 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:46:16 +0700 Message-ID: <2319171.6nCITBFyJ4@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20120607071014.GA53109@holstein.holy.cow> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com> <20120607071014.GA53109@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Chad Perrin , parv@pair.com Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:46:27 -0000 Hi, On 06 June 2012 21:10:14 parv@pair.com wrote: > in message <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com>, > wrote Erich thusly... > > > > On 06 June 2012 23:27:39 Chad Perrin wrote: > ... > > > I have immediately installed FreeBSD on the last four or five > > > laptops I > > > > I do this since 5.2 is out with all my purchases. > ... > > I have to admit, that I have had to install twice Fedora because > > the notebook hardware was not supported at that moment of time. > > > > The second Fedora installation will go as soon as get finished my > > travelling or I get me hands on a new hard disk. > > Erich, could you please list the offending Lenovo models? it is the X220. There is a solution available which needs a bit more time as I have had on hand before I left. As I have said several times already, I will be back with this machine to FreeBSD after my return. > > > ... > > What also has to be mentioned is the fact that people have to be > > more careful when shopping for new hardware with FreeBSD in mind. > > AMD based hardware is here of advantage at the moment. But it has > > other disadvantages. > ... > > What would be the said disadvantages? Some say that the AMD CPUs are slower per core. This X220 with the 2640 CPU seems to be very, very fast for me. I was surprised how it performed running plain FreeBSD. I would not have expected this much performance out of a small notebook. As this is my first Intel CPU since the good, old 80586, I cannot tell you more about Intel CPUs. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 08:38:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF066106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2E08FC17 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so130476eek.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:38:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=PRG7VRqRi9WzAyllmT2uNPwGhuDo5q7tJC7YJieRUes=; b=RpQEi4l45h/iROOhoX8jsDmLuyzjkAsJtWjfV7ffRKPXf5Acn3pVzX1H0z50Rw7jK+ gGCXu5p9FD4K+1MAvCpYdYLfACUBsy39jZPmjPF8CHDItWDB2C0kGOApalxC84G5m8cl dcjo0pqKxGAny34Ar2rW8BHEClqYXWCPljjRoxeRXolWw0Lwziugj2aDDYcvZi6xWM8T 5RmtFkfY6DM5CXUuvj+ktWaQNPDs9birOx5UAWcnpzjFhlxmHNlvzQRDmW/3e11ClDcy U/cl9jScZz9ibJuJAIyVmw1FsqdxF9UreaQgq8P6EhAHTDH8UoYYRuzlpG3tWkN5/Uu7 /Lnw== Received: by 10.14.96.70 with SMTP id q46mr643088eef.231.1339058293237; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c13sm8246503eeb.7.2012.06.07.01.38.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD06872.1080709@my.gd> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:38:10 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Feenberg References: <201206061630.q56GUJj7093472@fire.js.berklix.net> <4FCFA41A.4010506@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk3YbJ7NXu4m3AVBxnSK0V9hnRmKRynXLr0xu0yGqjYLDvMiniv+AanUibA1MJKO0qmaQFv Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:38:15 -0000 On 6/6/12 9:43 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> >> >> On 6/6/12 6:45 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>> >>>>> I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing >>>>> key >>>>> have to keep it secret? >>>> >>>> Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? >>> >>> A limited-liability company with no assets is judgement-proof. >>> >>>> >>>> Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, & then publish >>>> the key so we could all forever more compile & boot our own kernels. >>>> But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft & Verisign seek >>>> to impose. >>>> >>> >>> Could it really be that simple? As for hardware vendors putting revoked >>> keys in the ROM - are they really THAT cooperative? Seems like they >>> would drag their feet on ROM updates if they had to add a lot of stuff >>> that won't help them, so that doesn't seem like a great enforcement >>> tool. >>> >>> dan feenberg >> >> >> Oh god... >> >> Please realize that once the key is divulged, it gets revoked at the >> BIOS' next update. > > But my point is that MS doesn't issue the updates, they have to ask the > BIOS vendors to do so, and then the MB vendors have to take the update, > and then the users have to install the update. The incentive at each > level is generally very small. It does create some confusion, but is > hardly an enforcement mechanism. It would disable older versions of > FreeBSD on newer hardware, but not much else. > > A previous poster has pointed out that MS can't revoke a certificate > belonging to RH, but I suppose the could ask the BIOS vendors to treat > it as revoked. I don't know what the response would be. > > Daniel Feenberg > That is indeed the case. This is akin to, for example, Sony's race against Homebrewers on the good ol' PSP. When hackers found a hardware flaw that enabled them to install custom firmware, Sony had to release new versions of the consoles with fixed hardware. The old ones were still exploitable but the new ones weren't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 08:41:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94659106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2355D8FC14 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so131772eek.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=j9mFVnZV5MKu+kaJKZK0NA6s7KgmN3JuvwWPqefwRso=; b=DGlIIqp0m3Yh8PBZHFcBedkdLeft8D5jPHOeFoSzXU/uvSKfmuvC2XUYPVnztqgnR+ ypd2lbUvGka5GEIplPvnGz7n/Mu0AEFRZn9ZatBRYPcKnhMExq493UYzS4r59FXwja2U AH1bqRTYr9JDj01JxkZcwfoJsKshS1WkmKLBZuVT31/1MIli+lNnQErFWM4N3ivDMUpJ 4B2whPmkVh86AGl2hH6FzRqVpgZA/b/TvtUq/LDoGwnB76RLCm4Ku1BkoLPfBZZk5CWx ikTiRDHxJym9lKvsi6BZg6hg0YHvtuVcYuqwtv2ChK9SI8BccE+3AZyacgTEeXWkHC3A gumg== Received: by 10.14.95.72 with SMTP id o48mr729141eef.229.1339058467138; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p41sm8283746eef.5.2012.06.07.01.41.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD06921.7020903@my.gd> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:41:05 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> In-Reply-To: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkNm34jyOQPnJo3uRMS9xpnQ85SslmeG9GmVuuWUbam3vC7byqA/Anj9BUZMdjH7Mb3CHwE Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:41:08 -0000 On 6/5/12 10:19 PM, Colin Barnabas wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:19:26AM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: >> UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries >> http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ >> >> This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. >> >> Kurt >> > History show us that _everything_ will eventually run *nix. Take a > look at the Sony PS3 debacle. After Sony yanked support for > installing other OS's, the community ripped apart their > hypervisor in a matter of months. If these boot keys do gain any > momentum, sooner than later the community with poke holes in the > system. > This, however, raises the problem of the legality of it. George HOTZ was sued by Sony for releasing the master key. While Anonymous responded very aggressively (and while I do not generally condone their actions, this one I can both understand and support), in the end the consensus reached was that Geohotz agreed to not work on bypassing the PS3's protections anymore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 08:44:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181AD1065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985438FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so133233eek.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=wTljTUcoHaU8u1egzptn4S0hJqSNLEtKRsUsTW87CR8=; b=i4xXx3VBesyzyscZANBMFCDtTYBKLoBD27SO4gIj006QpctjtbHscK900iFCKjhnyL 5b4zSYj8DD49M/Kdnhs8+wYLsf6kjss52csg9tw2cty7/WRmsxR+Eg2ZGshC3rI2QMdw N0lQkF6npMXLh0TbxVjojtPuHHvRSt9x6UJpkLxIUj9eHja43OqvIuqAEYXtp8viZyu8 9H07H4RGlzdgRDm2SN3+KajsuavzAtbnwBrevemzD27sWdH0RbvRo1Gycl7oHJbo1sbE uUmLetAi03a+CUKBZpFoY6tnEG3MZ68VQD5qUw7iH5FOcuACblsFHfUSreFAIlaDEbBx lQvA== Received: by 10.14.37.76 with SMTP id x52mr766978eea.102.1339058681405; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z5sm8333757eem.3.2012.06.07.01.44.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD069F7.2030407@my.gd> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:44:39 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120605172046.2571e964@scorpio> <03ad948ef0fdab7fabfe119fdef00a0a@mail.magehandbook.com> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnkwf54XylP6xscsQcz7rqjbUGAFTz5EgfbE0L7HcTCSTGry3/FmNNKFfCdINVtxCGH3KW4 Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:44:43 -0000 On 6/6/12 9:55 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jerry wrote: >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400 >> Daniel Staal articulated: >> >>> On 2012-06-05 17:20, Jerry wrote: >>> >>>> The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what >>>> FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do >>>> not >>>> use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before >>>> its user base is even effected. >>> >>> I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or >>> another, really. It's not an immediate problem for any platform >>> supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined >>> user who's willing to check out their BIOS. (Even if they are using >>> the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to require >>> this code signing yet.) So it'll probably be a 'wait and see if it's >>> something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at this point. >>> But this is just my impression. >> >> I totally agree with you. Unfortunately that speaks to the sad state of >> affairs that FreeBSD appears to be in. When it comes to supporting the >> latest technologies, it tends to be behind the curve when compared to >> other operating systems. Wireless networking and USB support are only a >> few examples. >> >> I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then >> threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use >> 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I >> don't see that changing anytime soon. > > I would have to disagree with you there. I know of quite a few users > who happen to run one of the world's largest content distribution > networks (accounting for about one third of the internet's traffic; up > there with pornography). They purchased more than just a handful of > new computers and threw FreeBSD on them: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-June/068129.html You're talking about servers here, I think Jerry was speaking more generally, about a lambda user buying a computer and *definitely* not installing FBSD (or anything else) on it. The typical users just wants to buy "internet and emails" without a care in the world about the OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 09:11:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996B51065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmtilbrook@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371BE8FC19 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so257757yhg.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1IxAulsXp/qEAbiiJxHfg8M/UgId6Rrs00hIZDCR28w=; b=quAmWR8ayhGhNn2+NP7rlvtf3SR1CvRncG6YZo30PimrpT+Rtufv0kcHRXljgsWgNv JICMWPX80arCQVm5y3yxJywxprCK6AvDqrOh2oHlzTuGU5MWlbN5m+EnQIUYtmS7DEQM 4ngk+KK3Vy19lNiVGd+P30HioUeejvbDClxII3Z/wdyFdq5PEdUrWgYBvxhVOeblkIJs 3hDnNma3fJV1vXvo8ioANBkp8Htxi4j8lv2oq5X8doMcZHkckIrt8zbsI8t71Hme+kGh OXAFfC/7otRpNRdCy0rZRPXufNxTMGYYwlmCJO+eI9ptjZr1aES8Lus/R7gGsDHPpaKP Kk5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.24.7 with SMTP id q7mr1247133oef.50.1339060275427; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.22.130 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:11:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: David Tilbrook To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: changes to ioctl has me flumoxed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:11:16 -0000 To support my line editor I used to use: sgtty.c_lflag = ISIG; sgtty.c_iflag = BRKINT | IGNPAR | IXON | ICRNL; sgtty.c_oflag &= (ONLCR | OPOST | TAB3); sgtty.c_cc[VMIN] = 1; sgtty.c_cc[VTIME] = 1; iotcl(0, TCSETAW, &sgtty); but this no longer appears to work in that input lines are repeated and the writes to reflect chanes are not done. What should I be changing in the above, or what do I need to add? -- david From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 09:20:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F0106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8D18FC1A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:20:24 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rhjnVTme0kkW0WLfWXEmP5s/6PypbWbPM5aejw6wz7w= c=1 sm=0 a=hnuZadt1k7QA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=AfEfcmvjAAAA:8 a=QFWWxsLL7AlT8bgECL8A:9 a=2A2gPVWjU-cA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:45956] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id E8/27-05745-25270DF4; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:20:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:20:24 -0000 Snippet from Jerry : > I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then > threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use > 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I > don't see that changing anytime soon. I did, or almost. Before installing FreeBSD, I tried unsuccessfully to install NetBSD, figuring I'd start with the least stable of (NetBSD, FreeBSD, Linux) and not risk messing up good Linux and FreeBSD installations. Then FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 was released, and I went with that: now on 9.0-STABLE #9. That was on a computer that I built from parts in May-June 2011, meaning modern hardware including UEFI, but no "secure boot". Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 12:02:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3421065680 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A74C8FC1C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q57C20OE052909; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 06:02:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q57C20Nf052906; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 06:02:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 06:02:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FD03ECF.3030500@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FD03ECF.3030500@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 06:02:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mount failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:02:04 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > Running under X with xfce, just did this: > > gpart show -l da0 > gpart delete -i 1 da0 > gpart destroy da0 > > gpart create -s GPT da0 > gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr da0 > > gpart add -t freebsd-boot -i 1 -s 512K -l gptboot da0 > gpart bootcode -b /boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 > > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 35G -i 2 -l fbsdroot da0 > gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4K -s 512M -i 3 -l fbsdswap da0 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 1G -i 4 -l fbsdvar da0 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 512M -i 5 -l fbsdtmp da0 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 893G -i 6 -l fbsdusr da0 > > newfs /dev/gpt/fbsdroot > newfs -U /dev/gpt/fbsdvar > newfs -U /dev/gpt/fbsdtmp > newfs -U /dev/gpt/fbsdusr > > mount /dev/gpt/fbsdroot /mnt/goflex > > I then tried to create a snapshot of / > X immediately slowed to less than a crawl, and I couldn't do anything. > At first I could move the pointer a little, but then I lost it. > After a half hour or so, I power-cycled and rebooted. > > When I tried to mount the usb drive, I (not surprisingly) got this: > > #mount /dev/gpt/fbsdroot /mnt/goflex/root > mount: /dev/gpt/fbsdroot : operation not permitted > WARNING: RW mount of /mnt/goflex denied. File system is not clean - run fsck. > > But when I try to do an fsck, I can't: > #fsck /dev/gpt/fbsdroot > fsdk: could not determine filesystem type > (same msg for /dev/gpt and /dev/da0p2) # fsck -y -t ufs /dev/gpt/fbsdroot I don't see any obvious problem with the procedure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 13:35:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52D3106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C9F8FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q57DYuO1038078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:34:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FD0ADFB.8030508@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:34:51 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com> <20120607051901.GA2205@holstein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20120607051901.GA2205@holstein.holy.cow> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:34:56 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q57DYuO1038078 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Somewhat OT - A Makefile Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:35:10 -0000 On 06/07/2012 12:19 AM, Parv wrote: > in message<4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com>, > wrote Tim Daneliuk thusly... >> > ... >> Within a makefile, I need to assign the name of a program as in: >> >> FOO = "bar". >> >> The problem is that 'bar' may also be know as, say, "bar.sh". > ... >> Is there a simple way to determine which form "bar" or "bar.sh" on >> on a given system *at the time the make is run*? If both exist, I >> will pick one arbitrarily, > ... >> For example I don't think this works when both are there: >> >> FOO = $(shell `which bar bar.sh) > > Modify the subshell command to ... > > which bar bar.sh | head -n 1 > > > ... as in (for FreeBSD make) ... > > shell=`which zsh sh tcsh csh 2>/dev/null | fgrep -v 'not found' | head -n 3` > > all: > @printf "%s\n" ${shell} > > > > - parv > Thanks. I came up with something similar, but I think your recipe is a bit more elegant ... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 13:43:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1241065672 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from remailer.privacy.at (remailer.privacy.at [212.124.141.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362918FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by remailer.privacy.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FB97FD1C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:43:45 +0200 (CEST) From: "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6782343018e8928084925565b6f2bc33@remailer.privacy.at> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:43:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:43:47 -0000 > > Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is > > pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all > > boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? No, considering 99.99% of of current Windows victims can't even install a fresh copy of Windows. > > Users could fully utilize the UEFI Secure Boot hardware by say: > > > > - Using openssl to generate their keys > > - Jumper the board, burn it into the BIOS in UEFI SB SetupMode > > - Have all the MBR, slice, partition, installkernel, etc tools > > install and manage the signed disk/loader/kernel/module bits > > - Have the BIOS check sigs on whatever first comes off the media Yeah that's trivial for 99.99% of users. I have no idea what everyone is on about. I just program my own PROM and make my own motherboards. Now back to reality, most people don't know how to use openssl. They don't want to break the seal on their PC and void the warranty. They don't want to play with jumpers. They don't know how to use Linux fdisk or BSD disklabel. They can't set up their BIOS. They may not be the typical BSD or Linux poweruser but they represent most users. And sadly even a significant percentage of BSD and even a more significant percentage of Linux users (thank you Ubuntu) aren't capable of doing these things. > > And if they really were that dumb, there's Gigabyte, Asus, Msi, > > Supermicro, Biostar, etc who will not be so dumb and will soak up > > all the remaining sales gravy. We're going to see if that happens but it won't. The WinTel Mafia controls more than what you think and these vendors know they get many magnitudes more money from selling Windows commodity shitboxes than they ever will from all the BSD and Linux users multiplied together. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 13:43:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7A9106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599488FC17 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23C41AA62F for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7fAG9nOWuKpg for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id F193C1AA643; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:43:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FD06872.1080709@my.gd> Message-ID: <008d3aaa09c7e24727421c66f08b4378@dizum.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:43:51 -0000 > > But my point is that MS doesn't issue the updates, they have to ask the > > BIOS vendors to do so, and then the MB vendors have to take the update, > > and then the users have to install the update. The incentive at each > > level is generally very small. It does create some confusion, but is > > hardly an enforcement mechanism. It would disable older versions of > > FreeBSD on newer hardware, but not much else. This can be automated. Many mobo manufacturers have software that searches for new BIOS and flashes it "for" you. All they have to do is get on board and make this automatic like Windows Updates. Don't think they haven't thought this far ahead. I believe some offer this now. > > A previous poster has pointed out that MS can't revoke a certificate > > belonging to RH, but I suppose the could ask the BIOS vendors to treat > > it as revoked. I don't know what the response would be. MS and Intel are running this. If Verisign is just a trusted 3rd party (without administrative duties) they can well defer to the Microshaft Mafia and do as they're told. It wouldn't be the first time. For example, did everybody already forget the Microshaft Mafias' initiation of the FBI server raids on the botnet? Many innocent companies and peoples hosting got screwed during this takeover. But it was all in the name of "justice". If we can get a few Russian hackers then it's well worth damaging your business and property. We're from Microshaft Mafia and the FBI and we're here to help. > This is akin to, for example, Sony's race against Homebrewers on the > good ol' PSP. > > When hackers found a hardware flaw that enabled them to install custom > firmware, Sony had to release new versions of the consoles with fixed > hardware. > > The old ones were still exploitable but the new ones weren't. That is a little different, possibly. For one thing, Sony detected whether you had the updates they wanted you to install and if you don't have them installed you can't play on their PlayStation network. For 99.99% of PlayStation users this is the whole point of buying their console. So if you don't upgrade all you have is a box for playing local games which most people don't seem to want to do. All the Intel and Microshaft Mafia have to do is a similar thing, and make your PC or Windows stop working unless you install their updates, or tell the FBI your PC is possibly "infected" and part of a Russian botnet etc. and you won't be allowed on the internet until you upgrade your system to a safe level to avoid these horrible threats. This idea was floated publicly even unrelated to so-called "secure boot". Windows activation can check the firmware level and Intel's management BIOS is connected to the net even when your new PC is shut off (as long as it is plugged in). If you go along with this they can do whatever you want. You're submitting to true remote management/control over YOUR hardware and life. This is the beginning of a lot of bad Big Brother stuff and if people accept it now they get what they deserve tomorrow. Say "NO" to the Intel/Microshaft Mafia. Say "NO" to "Secure" boot. Run MIPS and Alpha hardware if you have to, just DUMP INTEL AND THE MICROSHAFT MAFIA. 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Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y54sm12113862eef.10.2012.06.07.08.35.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD0CA32.2060501@my.gd> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:35:14 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <008d3aaa09c7e24727421c66f08b4378@dizum.com> In-Reply-To: <008d3aaa09c7e24727421c66f08b4378@dizum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQliK77uHU3uPXe4KPHlgrJtddMZ0jRcMt1x8g2v9mQ44ZcXkV29Jtoa+v7ssgLLRfyXFUtV Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:35:18 -0000 On 6/7/12 3:43 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: >>> But my point is that MS doesn't issue the updates, they have to ask the >>> BIOS vendors to do so, and then the MB vendors have to take the update, >>> and then the users have to install the update. The incentive at each >>> level is generally very small. It does create some confusion, but is >>> hardly an enforcement mechanism. It would disable older versions of >>> FreeBSD on newer hardware, but not much else. > > This can be automated. Many mobo manufacturers have software that searches > for new BIOS and flashes it "for" you. All they have to do is get on board > and make this automatic like Windows Updates. Don't think they haven't > thought this far ahead. I believe some offer this now. > >>> A previous poster has pointed out that MS can't revoke a certificate >>> belonging to RH, but I suppose the could ask the BIOS vendors to treat >>> it as revoked. I don't know what the response would be. > > MS and Intel are running this. If Verisign is just a trusted 3rd party > (without administrative duties) they can well defer to the Microshaft Mafia > and do as they're told. It wouldn't be the first time. For example, did > everybody already forget the Microshaft Mafias' initiation of the FBI server > raids on the botnet? Many innocent companies and peoples hosting got screwed > during this takeover. But it was all in the name of "justice". If we can get > a few Russian hackers then it's well worth damaging your business and > property. We're from Microshaft Mafia and the FBI and we're here to help. > >> This is akin to, for example, Sony's race against Homebrewers on the >> good ol' PSP. >> >> When hackers found a hardware flaw that enabled them to install custom >> firmware, Sony had to release new versions of the consoles with fixed >> hardware. >> >> The old ones were still exploitable but the new ones weren't. > > That is a little different, possibly. For one thing, Sony detected whether > you had the updates they wanted you to install and if you don't have them > installed you can't play on their PlayStation network. For 99.99% of > PlayStation users this is the whole point of buying their console. So if you > don't upgrade all you have is a box for playing local games which most > people don't seem to want to do. > Totally off-topic, but I actually used mine to run gameboy and gameboy advance emulators ^^' > All the Intel and Microshaft Mafia have to do is a similar thing, and make > your PC or Windows stop working unless you install their updates, or tell > the FBI your PC is possibly "infected" and part of a Russian botnet etc. and > you won't be allowed on the internet until you upgrade your system to a safe > level to avoid these horrible threats. This idea was floated publicly even > unrelated to so-called "secure boot". > I refer you to the years old threads about Palladium and the TCPA that Microsoft dreamed back in the days. > Windows activation can check the firmware level and Intel's management BIOS > is connected to the net even when your new PC is shut off (as long as it is > plugged in). If you go along with this they can do whatever you want. You're > submitting to true remote management/control over YOUR hardware and life. > Well, I don't know about that... how do you suggest the BIOS gets its IP ? The 8-STABLE box that acts as my router is not going to serve one over DHCP or BOOTP any time soon. As for sniffing the network to guess the router + DNS servers, that one might be a bit far-fetched. > This is the beginning of a lot of bad Big Brother stuff and if people accept > it now they get what they deserve tomorrow. > > Say "NO" to the Intel/Microshaft Mafia. Say "NO" to "Secure" boot. > > Run MIPS and Alpha hardware if you have to, just DUMP INTEL AND THE > MICROSHAFT MAFIA. Seriously you need to stop with the "wintel", "microshaft", "mafia" and all the stuff. We get it, you don't like them. However, there are literally thousands of people reading this list and just because they do not share your ideals doesn't necessarily make them advocates of this so-called "mafia", or blind sheep. Finally, I can't come up with a scenario where my CEO is going to okay alpha boxes for our regular web servers and such. Our x86 servers run just fine and are roughly 12.000% cheaper. "We need to distance ourselves from Intel, apparently they run their business like darned brigands" is not going to cut it. Things aren't that easy in a corporate world, you get a volume contract with a supplier, Dell for example, and purchase your hardware from them. I can hardly see Dell shipping x86 servers with locked-in Windows installs, that just won't do for their business. I have to admit I'd love to see it though, I've always wanted us to try Cisco or IBM's blade servers in lieu of Dell's. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 16:03:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C1C106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304DA8FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:00:53 -0700 Message-ID: <4FD0D01A.4080205@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:00:26 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2012 16:00:53.0467 (UTC) FILETIME=[B764EAB0:01CD44C6] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Subject: driver for cell phone modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:03:47 -0000 Running 9.0 and thinking about changing to this verizon model 551L usb cell phone modem. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5632 It's a usb plugin cell modem for internet access. Before I go through the purchase and signup process I want to verify Freebsd has a driver that works with this 4G cell device. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 16:16:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EFA106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0651C8FC1A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:15:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4FD0D380.2080407@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:14:56 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2012 16:15:18.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAE63750:01CD44C8] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Subject: List total traffic amount across external nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:16:31 -0000 Running ipfilter and trying to list the total amount of the traffic passing through the external NIC. Maybe there is some other command to show this info. Any help is appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 16:25:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E844106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CBF8FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q57GPQE0093850; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:25:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:25:26 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Simon In-Reply-To: <20120606212300.80A9E10656B0@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120608015422.W46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120606212300.80A9E10656B0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:25:34 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 10, Message: 7 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:31:24 -0400 "Simon" wrote: > Can someone suggest an alternative/proper way to port forward using ipfw. Right > now I have the following and some bad clients cause too many FIN_WAIT_2 state > > fwd IP,PORT2 tcp from any to me dst-port PORT1 keep-state > > This easily causes DoS for when too many FIN_WAIT_2 are created and IPFW > stops forwarding using the rule above because of "too many dynamic rules" Michael's and Dan's suggestions of adjusting sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn* variables are good; consider also using 'limit' instead of 'keep-state', which works the same except limiting the number of open connections to a specified number. See ipfw(8) /limit and /EXAMPLES for more, but eg: fwd IP,PORT2 tcp from any to me dst-port PORT1 limit src-addr 9 to prevent any one source address opening more than 9 connections, or fwd IP,PORT2 tcp from any to me dst-port PORT1 limit dst-port 42 to limit total open connections by everyone to dst-port PORT1 to 42. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 16:30:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EF6106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE2F8FC15 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so722754laa.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CycnXV/w7eNJKn+n1TazAXznyQ5xJYet1oAQgV7L+lM=; b=lwFvLlt79Rn1AAIHgmn5k0tx7H4vnbWoJ4+mMyGFcG8sV96D79PsW/e5h/vBSKf2ac Zdrtf1xQe5LN/wl5zB4IPhcbrEcAbJwhthOAwWwRRQ837LL02+r36JAInc5NMZoja301 IK53wAyd647XGSWBq4rHqbFf9zxLUa+z147SgWt46vBggZPBerUQxKh8VXfmRJ6hABzg mNkNyeQcmJfLggw1ZsCsHTxT5KsSqIoMBFKxvIYlhFE9XISA1YqbWZjgqyJCNlrlsaVC IqJSxl5vydgEPQ//f9GkacOz5sk0ByyRkRwJkTWaka0OwvwBsf5N+EPUqIOgH1H2EjRl I9Jw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.29.166 with SMTP id l6mr1708676lbh.68.1339086649765; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.131 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:30:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <16DAC72E7E74F6438221C482E9EB0865177B101E@BL2PRD0410MB385.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: <16DAC72E7E74F6438221C482E9EB0865177B101E@BL2PRD0410MB385.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:30:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Dennis Oyama Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Contribution to PUC driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:30:51 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Dennis Oyama wrote: > Patch to update pucdata.c to support the Perle Systems Ltd. Multiport Spe= ed LE Serial cards. Maybe you could post this at freebsd-hackers@ for discussion or send the patch using send-pr[1] Cheers. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html > > > > --- pucdata.orig.c =A0 =A0 =A02012-02-10 12:24:47.000000000 -0500 > +++ pucdata.c =A0 2012-02-10 12:40:34.000000000 -0500 > @@ -668,11 +668,35 @@ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 */ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ =A0 0x155f, 0x0331, 0xffff, 0, > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Perle Speed4 LE", > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Perle Ultraport4 Express", > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DEFAULT_RCLK * 8, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PUC_PORT_4S, 0x10, 0, 8, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0}, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ =A0 0x155f, 0xB012, 0xffff, 0, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Perle Speed2 LE", > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DEFAULT_RCLK * 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PUC_PORT_2S, 0x10, 0, 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0}, > + > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ =A0 0x155f, 0xB022, 0xffff, 0, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Perle Speed2 LE", > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DEFAULT_RCLK * 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PUC_PORT_2S, 0x10, 0, 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0}, > + > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ =A0 0x155f, 0xB004, 0xffff, 0, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Perle Speed4 LE", > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DEFAULT_RCLK * 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PUC_PORT_4S, 0x10, 0, 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0}, > + > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ =A0 0x155f, 0xB008, 0xffff, 0, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Perle Speed8 LE", > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DEFAULT_RCLK * 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PUC_PORT_8S, 0x10, 0, 8, > + =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0}, > + > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ =A0 0x14d2, 0x8010, 0xffff, 0, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"VScom PCI-100L", > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DEFAULT_RCLK * 8, > > > > > _______________________________ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Dennis Oyama > =A0 Technical Sales Engineer > =A0 =A0 =A0Perle Systems Ltd. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01-800-467-3753 > =A0 =A0 Direct: 905-946-5037 > =A0 =A0 =A0 doyama@perle.com > =A0 =A0 =A0 CompTIA Security+ > _______________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 16:51:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0617D106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6C8FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so668060ghb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:51:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GCLcQ7CZ4uDtTeL/ODIt6Cq1znUbanl57KOYqzY+9+c=; b=RA/2orTVv4hlkFShDMIA73Sy1RmAUzPDpoVAWd8kzd+rsGnUKQOWcPDOkRNUZP+saY ZcToiqCcu58pIT4EIWPWIZWBlPfIk0ET1hDXsf4I/g5hXyzGZx9EnsBCvaQ8d3YktEHY Bmw5FZrq0kKTfYqB/PrmfUVMMO5J065YAEw9c= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=GCLcQ7CZ4uDtTeL/ODIt6Cq1znUbanl57KOYqzY+9+c=; b=kyt8pOKXv3ngOjgaOWbIXzBxMSE0juyFq1iOxO+RbdVOYjU6AUHHjkGQgkli/z22zf RCKhU8YcH4EwPfQg9u4LbhQz5sBH5s1UqvdOedewz0BfzBvrAlO68Qag30KkAh7xfbTO XAPJwcx2D2ORiDlQVKvMaB4VcMU0MC5Rc5hhs8ACt3bgF8L7Nv3S5NOITQ7xUTosdesm OK+yzCzFOvaCaeqKLceGLdCBGUpKGm9dqtKcgFuchayMLDakdSyXbGuzq/31SONN+eTU 5e8vyr7qQz3559sNf1lQawUTNc+rOpbHKeiupFdGFomBd3Iev3v8GBJfZLU2kekMryIC UoOQ== Received: by 10.236.73.39 with SMTP id u27mr2721934yhd.40.1339087869788; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a34sm11726660yhh.0.2012.06.07.09.51.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W7Xnk3vVMz2CG4F for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:51:05 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120607125105.6076c3e2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4FD0D7E7.8090705@bananmonarki.se> References: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se> <4FD0D7E7.8090705@bananmonarki.se> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnV7cZJ9SwPBL6gTiYkpeGqnHcsF0kPSBHeQD69IYTD/G9Du2LphNl5Y8Tsz2g22GNtkXwl Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:51:11 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:33:43 +0200 Bernt Hansson articulated: >2012-06-06 04:21, Walter Hurry skrev: >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" >>> >>> Set this to off. >>> >> Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to "Off", but there >> is no apparent difference; only a new set of messages in Xorg.0.log: >> >> (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (WW) Mouse0: No Device specified, looking for one... > >Have you tried without a xorg.conf file I do not have one. I have had the same frigging problem since updating Xorg and have tried every suggestion made on this list so far which includes activating & deactivating "hald", which is actually deprecated; however, I don't think that anyone here cares. In any case, when the mouse hangs I simple do a forced shutdown of Xorg and then restart it. There is approximately a 50/50 chance it will work on the next attempt. I just keep doing it until it works correctly. Furthermore, the real fun is when the keyboard is not even recognized. For the record, my Microsoft friends are really impressed with this. They have started a pool to see how many attempts it takes before it starts correctly. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:05:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783081065675 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E748FC15 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.22] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Scg9M-0007Kh-QW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:05:33 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q57H5UCQ001202 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:05:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q57H5TvU001201 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:05:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:05:29 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120607170529.GA1128@tiny> References: <4FD0D380.2080407@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4FD0D380.2080407@a1poweruser.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.22 Subject: Re: List total traffic amount across external nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:05:34 -0000 El día Thursday, June 07, 2012 a las 12:14:56PM -0400, Fbsd8 escribió: > Running ipfilter and trying to list the total amount of the traffic > passing through the external NIC. > > Maybe there is some other command to show this info. > > Any help is appreciated. In the past I used for this: $ cd /usr/ports/net/trafshow $ cat pkg-descr TrafShow continuously displays the information regarding packet traffic on the configured network interface that matches the boolean expression. It periodically sorts and updates this information. It may be useful for locating suspicious network traffic on the net. WWW: http://soft.risp.ru/trafshow/index_en.shtml HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:14:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E3A1065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83E58FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1444733pbb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=uMPEeCnvJ6+CWPFF74HHWq/tGeqCTIZVT2Ns7bSPzSc=; b=U/KmD/QZvMil3P8dIavvZ7lrrT2KkWNnU5TR7607MPBHFu9a8Pk28GHwXDp7YuqXfj BHUkLS0AhyM/5XjZZmcg71wl7Ea5j52tpR6PI+6wQdOXsuiqe3jnMGjs1ZRyorL0J+CH 4UG3IZlfiLeBTTSmByeRNwwpGeGOXHUZpUX7r06CuOKMn2vt+nReAd1ytDQ3slUFMTRz 1fCeZFPer6LgGqoeb/VKE7xfq45toxTNPG0NeRp79TWS+02hwkLAQyIDDIdOtVkeKmpq hfQfCsFa8GUO29eNKMFSKP2tS7wLipb7LVBtPcpdfAYfz/pvduxQtlU3KL1Gq5/yw3Yp 2nvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.189.133 with SMTP id gi5mr10117785pbc.154.1339089289468; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.174.66] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:14:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl7WFppCUHrt5pL3Rzrs2OmWyD1yvLyM9M0Ic2xU0b6qsBJAvqPhUm/gvXgjyn/mqQtGPiN Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:14:50 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: > Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to > FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to > work. IMHO, you've hit the same problem as this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241148.html Unfortunately, there was no follow-up, and nobody seems to have enough skills to fix hald. Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:15:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81E0106567E for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0088FC1A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScgIW-0001mu-K4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:00 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.23]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:00 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:15:14 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:15:02 -0000 Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Simon wrote: > >> This easily causes DoS for when too many FIN_WAIT_2 are created and IPFW >> stops forwarding using the rule above because of "too many dynamic rules" > > Change the defaults for the fw.dyn sysctl MIB nodes > > to something like > > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime=3 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime=3 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_rst_lifetime=1 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_fin_lifetime=1 > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_syn_lifetime=10 There is also this you can place in /etc/sysctl.conf: net.inet.tcp.fast_finwait2_recycle=1 I do this for my web servers. It helps reduce the volume somewhat of FIN_WAIT_2 from building up by expiring them sooner. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:16:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEE51065673 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBB08FC15 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q57HGAt2010310; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 11:16:11 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:16:03 +0700 Message-ID: <70508575.dr49Mp1sUN@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20120607125105.6076c3e2@scorpio> References: <4FD0D7E7.8090705@bananmonarki.se> <20120607125105.6076c3e2@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:16:18 -0000 Hi, On 07 June 2012 12:51:05 Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:33:43 +0200 > Bernt Hansson articulated: > > >2012-06-06 04:21, Walter Hurry skrev: > >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >>>> Option "AutoAddDevices" "On" > >>> > >>> Set this to off. > >>> > >> Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to "Off", but there > >> is no apparent difference; only a new set of messages in Xorg.0.log: > >> I might was not clear in my former message. I use the parameters given for playing until I have a combination which works. The settings there are my current working settings. Sometime I will have to change parameters after updating X, sometimes they continue to work. It all seems more or less random to me. The settings also differ for the same version of X on different hardware. > >Have you tried without a xorg.conf file I do not have one. > Not having this file does not work for me either. It actually never worked for me. > when the keyboard is not even recognized. For the record, my Microsoft > friends are really impressed with this. They have started a pool to see > how many attempts it takes before it starts correctly. > Hey, your friends have a good sense of humour. They should join here. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:17:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E53106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51878FC1A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.22] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScgKt-0002jr-DI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:17:27 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q57HHNlT001330 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:17:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q57HHMJF001329 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:17:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:17:22 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120607171721.GB1128@tiny> References: <4FD0D01A.4080205@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4FD0D01A.4080205@a1poweruser.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.22 Subject: Re: driver for cell phone modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:17:29 -0000 El día Thursday, June 07, 2012 a las 12:00:26PM -0400, Fbsd8 escribió: > Running 9.0 and thinking about changing to this verizon model 551L usb > cell phone modem. > http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5632 > > It's a usb plugin cell modem for internet access. > > Before I go through the purchase and signup process I want to verify > Freebsd has a driver that works with this 4G cell device. I haven't accessed the above specifications (if there are any at all) because the page asks data I'm unwilling to enter; In general, it depends. If the cellphone (like my Openmoko Freerunner) acts on USB as an Ethernet device (man cdce) and itself then as a router to the provider, it will work; if it gives direct serial access to the chips, it must be checked based on the USB vendorID and productID. Look for a dealer who allows to connect it once to your laptop and read the ID with usbconfig(8). HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:17:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD95106575A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9A18FC23 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1448645pbb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=CMbfa/5qVNTgzyGC5+4sbDcnQoiLakbesay70luxr4Y=; b=lR2FmBO4EGszy/d1DHtIgy50K4sgSTsyt4ANeB6DFvZ61MQLA4dxVQBb7wwFGWs2Ou Nna8fNToOV0CKsH3Ox+jzN7VGzcQjvW1AF9GrrlBoRqAHeM3vCRXsQzKK0zyT7xUgvuk 2WBmZKH0DKeBIL5RMaLjVleJDYl0Drhr5xntRfcl64ZRgQSZD6GZypv219WRkKS4jAk1 dsey7v4JIQzMY5LAKKo4NhvTq+PjaedwKEPYYLujjOw95awo6tAJGVJ0QpvUQkDFRrwJ E6s4whf77F73F8zcSazPJmOCVn4k2uhTRok9UgnJ2VfntM8iuFE7Fc3qnUxABnfcLH4/ MZvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.189.133 with SMTP id gi5mr10142431pbc.154.1339089462717; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.174.66] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:17:42 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnFBvamMFYzWhas5pwi++9iCYZwckI9D8tgPT24tPdEFNcR1yCb58qzNTGK0dDZZ65jSlLw Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:17:43 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:14 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: >> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to >> FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD >> is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to >> work. > > IMHO, you've hit the same problem as this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241148.html Sorry, I forgot to add the original mail: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241042.html > Unfortunately, there was no follow-up, and nobody seems > to have enough skills to fix hald. > > Good luck, > -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:22:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647C71065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136D48FC1E for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q57HFlLU033015; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:15:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:15:47 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Fbsd8 Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <4FD0D380.2080407@a1poweruser.com> References: <4FD0D380.2080407@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: <17de7e5de3e55436a66d07f06e0a6377@www.dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.6 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: List total traffic amount across external nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:22:23 -0000 On 06/07/2012 11:14, Fbsd8 wrote: > Running ipfilter and trying to list the total amount of the traffic > passing through the external NIC. > > Maybe there is some other command to show this info. > > Any help is appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" try: systat -ifstat -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:27:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FE1065676 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415FA8FC08 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1461851pbb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=S6GrJgXJPjmHhpQm6nTHSJDwtFPqXI/2rmnZj9FkNZY=; b=AJK5rcmWwX+4lRzce9058crXPb3ERDgm9NhXuB49OzbCdmWQ86luOeDPqEwLpwZulx KEKVq2YbjkPx7WeFA4wGmPF+fLZU2h3v1EZ2WOw+TupxW4iU5tVg7pxj67QbHB9aKrTC DPSQ+a1ELIw1qIxQ2wE3L8r/7TFTv4+KzD/ya0AjrCruQxjQZ3m8CmZz5tqITBXSM+pL kQpLABeTlpM5jdiqVWuDiIQwOulpZhaY/+ikY2zehGTQVzR4e77G646z+0OGFTGd83t3 6MF93POJ5X7C+ikk4bRU8jbq276D0/jreGATwlgFGqCpKzYainOeNKlLk2ha5CFLkrz9 hmNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.232.103 with SMTP id tn7mr10540735pbc.86.1339090065841; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:27:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:27:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbc6PjlWLQTrZtQGkukKEMpcwRAPtCqd/K1vSCa+gLDy+DOG7zwMrTU75dHTZSB92nb819 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:27:46 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > There is also this you can place in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.tcp.fast_finwait2_recycle=1 > Good catch. The defaults are perhaps not ideal in all cases: net.inet.tcp.finwait2_timeout: 60000 <- ms, ten minutes net.inet.tcp.fast_finwait2_recycle: 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:29:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D431065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C9D8FC1B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so1263995dad.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=MFjo7I5fUtAhOE4H+A78i4QNpixtb4YVCvLz25dK75E=; b=AC3YNAqE9A+5+IhGZmGeAnNvnv0kQztgOU80+TSi4m47pkpsBnzWu2S6zd2+dEdnwt c7A1l8xzt2fAqp+qeZ5XUNDxAYaItSugLh15kjvef8Wm5XwyB7KtLCoz2AUC6GGRXLz0 OQ4lULur+d2lmo3loau2NOm8SfwEakQp+MYVT8XlehLK0PMQokW67jvKuV7xreoqdXOj W5gI41Tr+GFPH0OHxINhzWYzj3GaPI27C57XY9u7CpwTngHa6VgfANSLWiiRBteY9Szv ZD9k4lFUah/4GQMyJ72FTcwwmNkYArNmL880zfW04Q9JP5WQP+TiLBrTQsZDcJk4Molz jkDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.193.233 with SMTP id hr9mr10320951pbc.99.1339090188039; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:29:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlaZ8d7NM9va+j/3qvnK/07es5wkdslj3hFldE3IxrvbYjxyrzPzjtHk7X2Q4y9HO4zlMaV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:29:48 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Sierchio wrot= e: > net.inet.tcp.finwait2_timeout: 60000 =A0<- ms, ten minutes I can't do arithmetic, but you get the idea. A full minute. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:44:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA661065676 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com [17.158.161.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9948FC19 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:44:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M59009ABD9ZOY10@nk11p00mm-asmtp009.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:44:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-07_06:2012-05-21, 2012-06-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206070165 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:44:22 -0700 Message-id: References: <20120606183127.68447106566B@hub.freebsd.org> To: Michael Sierchio X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper Port Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:44:25 -0000 On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Sierchio wrote: >> net.inet.tcp.finwait2_timeout: 60000 <- ms, ten minutes > > I can't do arithmetic, but you get the idea. A full minute. Yes; that's already shorter than possible MAXTTL value of packets, which can be anywhere up to 255 seconds (~= 5 minutes). Well, it's usually OK for a webserver to decide that it doesn't need to wait around for clients to properly shutdown their HTTP connections, but one might want to be more careful about zapping sockets early for HTTPS/SSL connections (ie, an online store doing a CC transaction or the like). Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 18:36:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ACE106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1507F8FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263951AA57A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X9GdndlGX6Sx for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id EA4C01B807E; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FD0CA32.2060501@my.gd> Message-ID: <3bcbc47dabd93db62959ac1cc339cf76@dizum.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:36:46 -0000 > Totally off-topic, but I actually used mine to run gameboy and gameboy > advance emulators ^^' And I use mine to write PPC code. But Sony's business model wasn't about software development or doing what you and I are doing. > > Windows activation can check the firmware level and Intel's management BIOS > > is connected to the net even when your new PC is shut off (as long as it is > > plugged in). If you go along with this they can do whatever you want. You're > > submitting to true remote management/control over YOUR hardware and life. > > > > Well, I don't know about that... how do you suggest the BIOS gets its IP ? > The 8-STABLE box that acts as my router is not going to serve one over > DHCP or BOOTP any time soon. You seem to be focusing on the .01% cases. The UEFI was specifically designed to allow TCP/IP from the BIOS with the machine powered off, well before secure boot was on the table. Just because you can firewall it off doesn't mean everybody else understands the issues or knows how, because they don't. For all we know Intel or Microshaft have plenty of DHCP servers ready for this. > As for sniffing the network to guess the router + DNS servers, that one > might be a bit far-fetched. It's not going to be like Skype and do NAT traversals by itself and find it's way out of your box. It's just that if you leave your computer plugged in like everybody in the world does, the BIOS will be able to do whatever they program it to do, including downloading and flashing BIOS updates and whatever malware the dreaded Chinese hackers and Russian botnets create. Microshaft is pretty stupid because every time they create something "secure" the Russians or Chinese hack it in a day. I'll be surprised if they don't crack Verisigns keys and create exploits and this will be a better attack vector than they ever had because now they can flash your BIOS. All they could do before was replace your boot sector. > Seriously you need to stop with the "wintel", "microshaft", "mafia" and > all the stuff. Why? > However, there are literally thousands of people reading this list and > just because they do not share your ideals doesn't necessarily make them > advocates of this so-called "mafia", or blind sheep. Aside from the one ostrich I spanked I don't think they are either. > Finally, I can't come up with a scenario where my CEO is going to okay > alpha boxes for our regular web servers and such. > Our x86 servers run just fine and are roughly 12.000% cheaper. Yeah but nobody cares about that because they're not talking about doing this to server boxes. It's home PCs where people are usually not well informed and are usually defenseless. Try to stay focused on the discussion. > I can hardly see Dell shipping x86 servers with locked-in Windows > installs, that just won't do for their business. Right, so this doesn't apply. Why do you keep bringing it up? Even if it did apply, who cares? It's not your problem. The target is commodity WinTel crapware boxes. > I have to admit I'd love to see it though, I've always wanted us to try > Cisco or IBM's blade servers in lieu of Dell's. Intel is bad not just because of UEFI and secure boot. They're bad because they have conspired many times over the years with Microshaft to create a monopoly. Everybody should object to that. Say NO to the WinTel Mafia! (had to add that ;-)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 18:55:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC78A106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998408FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E333D16B4B9; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:55:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:53:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:53:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <4FD0D01A.4080205@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <4FD0D01A.4080205@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: driver for cell phone modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:55:25 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: > Running 9.0 and thinking about changing to this verizon model 551L usb > cell phone modem. > http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?\ > item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5632 Your link does not lead to specific information about this device. However, I gather it is a LTE device, which is good because at least some are supported (whereas no WiMax devices are supported). Moreover, the promise of Linux and Mac 10.4+ compatibility seems a positive sign. But I can't find anything that flatly says it will work with FreeBSD. Have you considered a mobile (or base station) hotspot? Since these will connect with up to five wi-fi devices, and you can almost certainly find a dongle that will work with your ethernet card, maybe you should take a look at them. > It's a usb plugin cell modem for internet access. > > Before I go through the purchase and signup process I want to verify > Freebsd has a driver that works with this 4G cell device. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 18:59:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188EE10657F7 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571118FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so814042yhg.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EbxJnjvETUHbT60vCo9VDgsou+578dSNa8cIT0qqqsg=; b=heXqe/86Ez0w1130cDrZPRFrmg1B7Ur6yIPnVNX11RInQlt6f4HtkoENZlPzAdCEv4 YwBh3M6eRlX1XxUojRuK0i9bQCm5DrvrGXwmM6LILSEVosSGXipZJSoxItZAjqufWl9Z 1K6wxTkCpXDbl19W0j9njF89fookuLJYO1zLE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=EbxJnjvETUHbT60vCo9VDgsou+578dSNa8cIT0qqqsg=; b=NkbqsWySe6TIL6YxIMSofl1T9vrnG/Uv5iJ2CAkVSxLeqtqGLhu6OEeT5t2KFYsfnw V/VA1oAvMyl6txSvPCecwyv5aba13KaS5nggGVH5Ks/T6QQlsQi+bOAS6edHk4VPpOFS CFermRb4Rc5guz53CSwXybVYvtbIgKMpcCz3rymVWdcJCHhEQaME7Y9V94KeH2WCYL2u wt83J/gpCdlpw5ugEkKQ4LYQGqJzdSXcAws7UXbNAlW9Je8MRKmKZbKYqiElPvCxaCe8 /PddmyQJC2Qgi0lI9oY8Z7EoDRcNf36uUpm/LR/+x0MlegcGVquqWeIIzFwQx5oeHBN3 DwKw== Received: by 10.236.192.162 with SMTP id i22mr2986739yhn.83.1339095544659; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o10sm5435193anm.1.2012.06.07.11.59.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W7bdK53RRz2CG4F for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:59:01 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120607145901.3022770d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlThrrk9DOWRCHwqjmIUGe34SOJNStNsNVzGqfzfk2Zva+6vhz/Tp8Ii6zvqM/HC2zSwiLA Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:59:07 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:17:42 +0200 C. P. Ghost articulated: >On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:14 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Walter Hurry >> wrote: >>> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite >>> new to FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost >>> everything in FreeBSD is fine, except that no matter what I try I >>> cannot get the (USB) mouse to work. >> >> IMHO, you've hit the same problem as this: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241148.html > >Sorry, I forgot to add the original mail: > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241042.html > >> Unfortunately, there was no follow-up, and nobody seems >> to have enough skills to fix hald. HAL is now deprecated on GNU/Linux systems, with functionality being merged into udev as of 2008–2010. Why would anyone try to resurrect a dead application. As of 2011, GNU/Linux distributions such as Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora, and projects such as KDE, GNOME and X.org are in the process of deprecating HAL as it has "become a large monolithic unmaintainable mess". -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 19:13:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2041065674 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7C38FC08 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23296 invoked by uid 89); 7 Jun 2012 22:12:57 +0300 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=ihlas.net.tr; b=DGyrE6pEbnHymQ5o5PHBLGNFtGvityWqlPIXmRE3hKmUPY+tYOCq45Ccedo6h1xzGJsx9TqVQ50l5pGMBdLS7bISGcgxh4Yz5oxnWypyYMe+miBFLbjhRgvqQK/+hh4ZB3gv+hv0owm9GZjbnbv1JAzeWHawIY3Tj5+xg9/s684= ; Received: from deneme.makrobil.com.tr (HELO com2007) (yavuz.maslak@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.140.1) by pop3.ihlas.net.tr with SMTP; 7 Jun 2012 22:12:57 +0300 From: =?windows-1254?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= To: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:12:56 +0300 Message-ID: <06aa01cd44e1$8bcf6e50$a36e4af0$@ihlas.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1254" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1E4XW0ERlydGhTR56e+lNWh7Id4A== Content-Language: tr Subject: doesn't dummynet work with vlan ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:13:06 -0000 Hello there=A0 I use freebsd8.2 I added dummynet and other followings into the kernel; options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable trasparent proxy support=A0 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options HZ=3D1000 options DUMMYNET options IPDIVERT options DEVICE_POLLING I have 4 networks which seperate from eachother with vlan. I wish to bandlimit for every vlan network using dummynet. I have 2 ethernet cards for that. one of them is wan other one is = inbound is tagged. vlan works well I configured a network to limit using dummynet; ipfw.sh ### ipfw -f flush ipfw pipe 11 config bw 2Mbit/s # Vlan104 ipfw pipe 12 config bw 2Mbit/s # 6.Port on the switch ipfw add pipe 11 ip from any to 10.12.4.0/24 in via em0 ipfw add pipe 12 ip from 10.12.4.0/24 to any out xmit em0 ### em0 is for outside in the server. as a client my pc is in vlan104 namely i am behind the firewall when i execute the ipfw.sh, I can't reach to the internet. ipfw add pipe 12 ip from 10.12.4.0/24 to any out xmit em0=A0 above line works it actually limits but ; ipfw add pipe 11 ip from any to 10.12.4.0/24 in via em0=A0 above line doesn't work properly it obstructs my http and icmp requests. so i can't reach to internet. Whereas i remove "ipfw add pipe 11 ip from any to 10.12.4.0/24 in via = em0" from ipfw.sh I can either ping at outbound or reach to internet.=A0 I tried vlan104 instead of em0 "in via em0"=A0 that doesn't help me. I don't use proxy. I use nat =20 What can be the problem ? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 20:05:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA051065678 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A9F8FC1A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q57K5Y9i015807 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:05:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:05:34 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: dumping file system subtree (/var) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:05:35 -0000 When I originally set up my SSD, the stuff I was following indicated there was no need to put anythng on a separate filesystem. I'm now trying to build a backup system on a usb drive and I want a separate /var and /tmp. I had originally set the nodump flag on /tmp and /var, so my snapshot is empty for those. I don't think there's any reason to preserve /tmp, but is there any good way to copy /var from the running system on the SSD to another filesystem (and still preserve everything, including flags)? My impression is both mksnap_ffs and dump should only be used on a complete filesystem, not a subtree. Or do I need to unset the nodump flag on /var, make a snapshot of /, take a dump :-), and then split the /var out upon restore? And would it be wise to repartition the SSD to put /var and /tmp on their own partitions? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 20:37:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6116D106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3645D8FC08 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:37:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:From:Mime-Version:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=bseEmMjXoPIRZvvOEOh0aib24K4NxrYA0XNkwmToCfw=; b=kvBbjpWdCQcvKBa04QBV3ne8GUhKICSufpfuMjsqJNx+pnfdEd0cQ2ojvptVu2zLgVEwTGaQIB04mojMuGDppeermz+5xx+cnY28lmO0kje0hzKanlSbSScg5uYHX5c6; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScjRx-0007H2-E1; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:36:58 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339101411-26372-26371/5/58; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:36:51 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: dumping file system subtree (/var) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:37:03 -0000 Would rsync or cpdup from single user mode cover your needs? Should cover everything and then you can just reboot into your newly partitioned system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 21:21:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B881065672 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7E38FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1739443pbb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:21:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q4DKJnoA/diK+rjlqCr1l1NPOFBKyIiOe0L+NFAzqUE=; b=QNUcgGYFdvg5kbN8zKr0D1AE5ia4xZtSElq9NRQBxzlS4uSwVrjO5W8G4BtEVzVN7I 8kcA1fL70twt/wPu4dfC6ta5ryJAk0CqAD9olVbAWPft4pZL1Kw/wbvJAr+AujNsf2JA Ooi6ecHqnU6orKNB6TM2ce2ILipUo2knZmTuPGQWxLP/6whBkiLkPtcxaKyf+SpeXQNC 2uVmEHA9WrENtdevpG01YqicfBLOUuHRN6QRW1F3hBsBiM8UnKMub6oIsF0zCrZBnd/e 4wFsK9m0z4aBwNJQOpXo+SqyKP8xWAd0LjbQCvWu24+jNWC3T2GQCX/n2RbMD3AD2W1n FoFQ== Received: by 10.68.224.70 with SMTP id ra6mr13925900pbc.11.1339104092858; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pe2sm5303706pbc.59.2012.06.07.14.21.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD11C72.6000708@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:26:10 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120606182153.3cc2ee07.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:21:33 -0000 On 06/06/2012 01:35 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > But this is more to do with the BIOS than with Intel as such. Wasn't > there a FreeBIOS, later LinuxBIOS, now coreboot I believe..? > So replacing the BIOS entirely wouldn't suffice to override all this nonsense? > _______________________________________________ anybody will be free to disable secure boot in x86 systems and run any OS, so this is not really a big deal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 22:31:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05E81065673 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89B3A8FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ::ffff:69.12.202.165 ([69.12.202.165]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:30:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4FD12B9C.3070107@holgerdanske.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:30:52 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120507 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1841053140.95816.1339040011608.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <1841053140.95816.1339040011608.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD for Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:31:07 -0000 On 06/06/2012 08:33 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > This looks like the processor I have, I think you would use amd64. Almost certainly your system is 64-bit as opposed to 32-bit. Thanks for the reply. :-) Yes, definitely 64-bit. > For a new computer, I wouldn't go with anything earlier than FreeBSD 9.0, and in my case, upgrading to 9.0-STABLE proved stabler than the 9.0 release. STFW: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-March/239742.html It looks like -STABLE are daily development/ test builds (?): ftp://ftp.allbsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-snapshots/amd64-amd64/ I'm looking for stability. I'll try the 9.0-RELEASE: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ > Base system includes ZFS. Good. > I've never used virtual machines, but VirtualBox is popular for this purpose. VirtualBox does seem to be popular. It played with it on Debian Testing (Wheezy), but I believe the shared folder feature filled my root partition and I couldn't locate or remove the blockage. > Samba is in ports. Okay. > I don't recognize or don't remember DQ67SWB3 motherboard model, is it from MSI? Intel: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dq67sw.html I'm not sure what the "B3" suffix means, but it's on the box. A few other questions for the list, please: 1. Does FreeBSD support encrypted disk partitions (slices)? 2. Does the X server in FreeBSD (?) support Intel HD 2000 integrated graphics? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 22:31:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28EA106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA9D8FC1F for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q57MUP5Q008485; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:30:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FD12B27.4030601@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:28:55 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dumping file system subtree (/var) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:31:48 -0000 2012-06-07 22:05, Gary Aitken skrev: > When I originally set up my SSD, the stuff I was following indicated there was no need to put anythng on a separate filesystem. I'm now trying to build a backup system on a usb drive and I want a separate /var and /tmp. > > I had originally set the nodump flag on /tmp and /var, so my snapshot is empty for those. > > I don't think there's any reason to preserve /tmp, but is there any good way to copy /var from the running system on the SSD to another filesystem (and still preserve everything, including flags)? My impression is both mksnap_ffs and dump should only be used on a complete filesystem, not a subtree. > > Or do I need to unset the nodump flag on /var, make a snapshot of /, take a dump :-), and then split the /var out upon restore? > > And would it be wise to repartition the SSD to put /var and /tmp on their own partitions? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 22:37:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ED4106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AE18FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B08E64EB for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:38:19 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=Y+AqajqzCLeH06bXkegan+G7S b8=; b=SBtq6RkHgapa63gUQDsmjKgFrQJDGF5DMtWUHuwfGvQJnrfjC9wnP7XAH Hu5Z7Ek3w2ATG3jdpmUKXqTGCtspAZmG2af6mZvKgESKUiix2G5ikO1JNOyv4+SX fmxD7syOazHhOqsIlVWp6L11Oew6mCPH/VWDdGOUMtd0YOetwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=GOj5Isx5slmDx53hV3x Cyl4qQYcLBy7wKqgDit1XxijnVtRnjkhJeTmxdTnWi8FllsMngqc1QeX/8mVkt/W mflyF6wag0NXVOiHKBGnCIEZ/tYrhw0Db09sEZ8lnaTFGcwOtf0KbLNLwhs8eceQ UjUhhEQW+Ady3VlUoUeaXxFI= Received: from [192.168.2.12] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B84A5E64EA for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:38:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:36:47 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Configuration problem with IPv6 router ("cannot forward src") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:37:36 -0000 I'm trying to set up a IPv6 router (running -current) on my home network. My ISP gives me a /128 via PPP and I have a /48 allocation, which I use to give em0 and tun0 public addresses in different subnets (tun0 is assigned the address via ppp.linkup). I've added all the IPv6 settings to rc.conf (ipv6_gateway_enable, ipv6_network_interfaces, rtadvd_enable etc.) and I can ping IPv6 sites from the router. The problem is that rtadvd continues advertising the default gateway as tun0's link-local address - and pinging from a machine on the network results in "cannot forward src" messages on the router (strangely, despite hisaddr being fe80::205:... in ppp.log, the kernel logs the address as fe80:f::205:...). Is there some extra configuration I've likely missed that's needed when using IPv6 via PPP? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 22:56:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99AC106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F048FC17 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q57MuWXC058337; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:56:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:56:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206072256.q57MuWXC058337@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bruce@cran.org.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: Configuration problem with IPv6 router ("cannot forward src") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:56:12 -0000 > From: Bruce Cran > > I'm trying to set up a IPv6 router (running -current) on my home > network. My ISP gives me a /128 via PPP and I have a /48 allocation, > which I use to give em0 and tun0 public addresses in different subnets > (tun0 is assigned the address via ppp.linkup). > I've added all the IPv6 settings to rc.conf (ipv6_gateway_enable, > ipv6_network_interfaces, rtadvd_enable etc.) and I can ping IPv6 sites > from the router. > > The problem is that rtadvd continues advertising the default gateway as > tun0's link-local address - and pinging from a machine on the network > results in "cannot forward src" messages on the router (strangely, > despite hisaddr being fe80::205:... in ppp.log, the kernel logs the > address as fe80:f::205:...). > > Is there some extra configuration I've likely missed that's needed when > using IPv6 via PPP? Please provide the output from these two commands: ifconfig -a netstat -nr on both the router and on an 'inside' machine. (identifying which is which :) There is also a question of 'where' the /48 comes from -- and how traffic to those addresses is being routed from the outside world. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:15:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DB3106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2FF8FC1C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2012 23:15:25.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BC2A830:01CD4503] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Subject: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:15:25 -0000 dmesg command does not show date of last boot. Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:16:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7451106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8596E8FC15 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q57NGY0g056608; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:16:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q57NGYE9056605; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:16:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:16:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dumping file system subtree (/var) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:16:37 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > When I originally set up my SSD, the stuff I was following indicated > there was no need to put anythng on a separate filesystem. I'm now > trying to build a backup system on a usb drive and I want a separate > /var and /tmp. > > I had originally set the nodump flag on /tmp and /var, so my snapshot > is empty for those. There are several things in /var that are worth keeping, and they are pretty small. > I don't think there's any reason to preserve /tmp, but is there any > good way to copy /var from the running system on the SSD to another > filesystem (and still preserve everything, including flags)? My > impression is both mksnap_ffs and dump should only be used on a > complete filesystem, not a subtree. > > Or do I need to unset the nodump flag on /var, make a snapshot of /, > take a dump :-), and then split the /var out upon restore? Snapshots don't have to be made separately, dump's -L option does that automatically: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html Restoring from a dumpfile is an easy way. net/rsync has a config option to support flags, but I haven't tried it. > And would it be wise to repartition the SSD to put /var and /tmp on > their own partitions? When I did that recently, I put /var on a small separate partition but used tmpfs(5) for /tmp. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:20:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372E21065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B9E8FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q57NKNwd023668; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:20:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:20:32 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? Perhaps somehow subtract `uptime` from today's date? -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:22:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D14106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522358FC18 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so755448vcb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zHIZP6gpJhWHpWV2TAUZYTkXVlQXyXb7uXIYEpsD7P4=; b=l+MJaaGsYx3ukemIhhzgUSYOH/TYohMeYbBVXS1isfoDuDGKmKf20IsNh2PKK5RZNl QA1r8p4w0pf12EeVVG7r1JRoXkOT6j4ZnAFQqqc0+dkSwoC+YKX+BpibvUQWV7vZWKMQ Jd5lU3YumiHwgakdwLVskEA61qkVyoJ0pQn3sFJKatEJutRbM8Lcr88gc88hARR4SiT7 yRrXMXxwrDM6AbaL5R/1jCn9ffpvIkOWcBpekSN0zoeFjkMI6ye0DzygwbdOzWFYnscA 0LivKxoafrgB5nTgJBScVyMQ/pIUwz/MukKACBHywRL+dfwLkBaUQZv7JKV9AutiKwOj dB2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.80 with SMTP id v16mr3631770vds.9.1339111354606; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:22:34 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:22:40 -0000 hi all, i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic by the mac and the ip at the same time, for example, i only allow my laptop can go throught the firewalll when it's using IP for how to config the firewall rules? I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt work ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC any but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone already asked this question before. but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone tell me how ? thanks in advance. Best Regards, BYCN82 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:31:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C201065674 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com (mail-vb0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994A58FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbbfn1 with SMTP id fn1so755778vbb.18 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:31:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i2gtuXSeMoTXBjHrPwKR6fDkIMBk79clKg5EJP1b+dg=; b=w9++dUQaacbfiK+vUQPtPLDfuA6l1IusRQpfon3HYHfRWNq7gRwvzorI3t7LH38l+1 vquOIhru50CdPAFy2EHAtbZskqeEe5Vh4wPlk/ckUYVxlN8lDwd+yGXhE3qED691xsBO ebp+2fNO8F0j6deA1pPVan8jy6nO4PRTs1O/cR1l1oUKW5R9tPyIYPa7yGMNrnUmrxk+ GiotIvPVCm0ZKnQThsga1u8kAbsARnRNuK3M5MbZoVcdBiCfIuoBgma1S2fOXkH6LDwo 0k5yxkiDHk4DRDOvKdRvYHFK+mnKuWKNSyr+GspFgFmZhuSFQ5pcdFxgihHn6rJmvpfU rdhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.93.133 with SMTP id cu5mr3437761vdb.125.1339111874254; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:31:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:31:14 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: Chris Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:31:16 -0000 If you store the time in a file as log everytime when it boots up, then that means you can have more then "now - uptime" On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: > > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. >> >> Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? >> > > Perhaps somehow subtract `uptime` from today's date? > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:33:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E71065670 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9488FC19 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA063CB2B; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:33:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q57NXP1V003289; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:33:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Message-Id: <20120608013325.d3eee7bb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:33:34 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? Check the lines in /var/log/messages. Unless you're not experiencing a newsyslog message (new log file started), the "kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project." string (first line of typical dmesg, check for your particular OS version!) indicates when the system was booted. But note that the date format is not the common sortable kind of `date "+%d.%m.%Y"`. Another idea (as already mentioned) is to subtract `uptime` from current `date`. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:38:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F7D106564A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr13.networksolutionsemail.com (omr13.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1D88FC14 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr1 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr13.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q57Nc5th009945 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:38:05 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr1 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:47165] helo=[192.168.222.21]) by cm-omr1 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id B3/8B-06474-D5B31DF4; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:38:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4FD13B64.6060906@makeworld.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:38:12 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:38:11 -0000 On 6/7/2012 6:31 PM, Bill Yuan wrote: > If you store the time in a file as log everytime when it boots up, > then that means you can have more then "now - uptime" > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > >> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: >> >> dmesg command does not show date of last boot. >>> >>> Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? >>> >> >> Perhaps somehow subtract `uptime` from today's date? >> >> -- >> Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org >> ** [ Busy Expunging ] >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Try the command, last maybe that will give you some info that you are looking for. -- Keep well, Chris <>< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:38:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7876710656D0 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fish.kungfu@yandex.com) Received: from forward10.mail.yandex.net (forward10.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF74F8FC15 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web5e.yandex.ru (web5e.yandex.ru [77.88.60.74]) by forward10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2F3731022108 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:38:51 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1339112331; bh=E/vsbewsVfy9tOnfYwSMlIs0CUd63EKyuvjofFgvmoA=; h=From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=jKpcNtorQBBfG8rAGYiBNPdeUwPC0YioaqiStka+lq4rO8S2KHnDbNuJMmUp7Ew/K naK9822tF95EELxJQKes5DHI4MHeKRRXiPaek3Tbl0+czQW99MVL8/upNXhneg7CNQ 3MtDIgGtUIxJNtSahOyzeS3+c6+lZf4yxJP4H2To= Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web5e.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 025BC127801D; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:38:50 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1339112331; bh=E/vsbewsVfy9tOnfYwSMlIs0CUd63EKyuvjofFgvmoA=; h=From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=jKpcNtorQBBfG8rAGYiBNPdeUwPC0YioaqiStka+lq4rO8S2KHnDbNuJMmUp7Ew/K naK9822tF95EELxJQKes5DHI4MHeKRRXiPaek3Tbl0+czQW99MVL8/upNXhneg7CNQ 3MtDIgGtUIxJNtSahOyzeS3+c6+lZf4yxJP4H2To= Received: from adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net (adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net [68.159.116.104]) by web5e.yandex.ru with HTTP; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:38:50 +0400 From: Fish Kungfu To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1253221339112330@web5e.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:38:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:38:53 -0000 Try: who -b Cheers...Fish 07.06.2012, 18:31, "Bill Yuan" : > If you store the time in a file as log everytime when it boots up, > then that means you can have more then "now - šuptime" > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > >> šOn Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: >> >> šdmesg command does not show date of last boot. >>> šAre there some other commands to find date of last boot? >> šPerhaps somehow subtract `uptime` from today's date? >> >> š-- >> šChris Hill ššššššššššššššchris@monochrome.org >> š** šššššššššššššššššššš[ Busy Expunging ] >> >> š______________________________**_________________ >> šfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> šhttp://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> šTo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> šunsubscribe@freebsd.org " > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:40:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036C6106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D9C8FC1B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q57Nf5hs059074; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:41:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:41:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206072341.q57Nf5hs059074@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Cc: Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:40:38 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 7 18:16:50 2012 > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400 > From: Fbsd8 > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: find date of last boot > > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? 'man uptime' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:46:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C52D1065672 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62E68FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q57Nk3pF013050 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:46:03 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q57Nk3fP013049; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:46:03 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 0A6B9B7C4; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:45:48 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> (message from Fbsd8 on Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Message-Id: <20120607234549.0A6B9B7C4@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:45:48 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:46:11 -0000 >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400, >> Fbsd8 said: F> dmesg command does not show date of last boot. Are there some other F> commands to find date of last boot? Try "last reboot". -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others. --Samuel Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:47:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2869106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A645A8FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (64-37-17-97.static.ezlink.com [64.37.17.97] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q57NlTcP000958; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20120608013325.d3eee7bb.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:47:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <03962865-7560-43F4-B8E6-7F8652A1B488@lafn.org> References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <20120608013325.d3eee7bb.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:47:41 -0000 On 7 June 2012, at 16:33, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: >> dmesg command does not show date of last boot. >>=20 >> Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? >=20 > Check the lines in /var/log/messages. Unless you're not > experiencing a newsyslog message (new log file started), > the "kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project." > string (first line of typical dmesg, check for your particular > OS version!) indicates when the system was booted. But > note that the date format is not the common sortable > kind of `date "+%d.%m.%Y"`. >=20 > Another idea (as already mentioned) is to subtract `uptime` > from current `date`. :- Check the timestamp on /var/run/dmesg.boot That is only written to when = the system boots.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 00:36:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DAA106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.158.161.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757798FC1F for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:36:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5900MK9TKOJE00@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:36:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-07_08:2012-05-21, 2012-06-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206070271 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:36:24 -0700 Message-id: References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:36:56 -0000 On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? Try "last | grep reboot". Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 00:58:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DE2106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745778FC08 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.130] (unknown [74.123.160.78]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1E626EDB6E; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:25:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Hamann Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:25:48 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <91C240AC-29C0-40A1-86C4-C41A48720CAF@forestinformatics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: setting gcc46 as default compiler? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:58:21 -0000 I've built and installed the gcc46 compiler(s) - need gfortran - and I = can't seem to find the correct documentation on how to update = /etc/make.conf for including the gfortran46.=20 This is what mine currently looks like: $ cat make.conf # added by use.perl 2012-06-07 03:03:21 PERL_VERSION=3D5.10.1 .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/*) && exists(/usr/local/bin/gcc46) CC=3Dgcc46 CXX=3Dg++46 CPP=3Dcpp46 FC=3Dgfortran46 .endif FFLAGS=3D-O2 -mtune=3Dathlon64 CC=3Dgcc46 CXX=3Dg++46 CPP=3Dcpp46 FC=3Dgfortran46 $=20 Am I close? Help? Respectfully, Jeff. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 01:14:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426CC106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2468FC14 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q581EBFM027147; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:14:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:14:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:14:13 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? That was fun. Google helped me with this; the crappy skillz are all mine. --- cut here --- #!/bin/sh # # Find date of last boot # DAYS_UP=`uptime | awk '{print $3}'` SEC_UP=`echo "${DAYS_UP} * 86400" | bc` DATE=`date` EPOCH_DATE=`date -j -f "%a %b %d %T %Z %Y" "${DATE}" "+%s"` BOOT_SEC=`echo "${EPOCH_DATE} - ${SEC_UP}" | bc` BOOT_DATE=`gawk -v duh=${BOOT_SEC} 'BEGIN{print strftime("%Y-%m-%d",duh)}'` echo "Last boot on ${BOOT_DATE}" --- cut here --- Example from this machine: $ ./boot_date.sh Last boot on 2010-12-26 $ Enjoy. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 01:24:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34BC1065672 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (omr14.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DC98FC08 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr3 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q581OgN9011480 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:24:42 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr3 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:53013] helo=[192.168.222.21]) by cm-omr3 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 60/B3-14279-95451DF4; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:24:49 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:24:48 -0000 On 6/7/2012 8:14 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> dmesg command does not show date of last boot. >> >> Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? > > That was fun. Google helped me with this; the crappy skillz are all mine. > > --- cut here --- > #!/bin/sh > # > # Find date of last boot > # > DAYS_UP=`uptime | awk '{print $3}'` > SEC_UP=`echo "${DAYS_UP} * 86400" | bc` > DATE=`date` > EPOCH_DATE=`date -j -f "%a %b %d %T %Z %Y" "${DATE}" "+%s"` > BOOT_SEC=`echo "${EPOCH_DATE} - ${SEC_UP}" | bc` > BOOT_DATE=`gawk -v duh=${BOOT_SEC} 'BEGIN{print strftime("%Y-%m-%d",duh)}'` > echo "Last boot on ${BOOT_DATE}" > --- cut here --- > > Example from this machine: > $ ./boot_date.sh > Last boot on 2010-12-26 > $ > > Enjoy. > Why create something that is already built in? As I mentioned previously, the last command lists when the system was rebooted. -- Keep well, Chris <>< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 01:35:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87ED6106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400FE8FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q581ZJHh027194; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:35:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:35:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Chris In-Reply-To: <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> Message-ID: References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:35:20 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Chris wrote: > On 6/7/2012 8:14 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: >> >>> dmesg command does not show date of last boot. >>> >>> Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? >> >> That was fun. Google helped me with this; the crappy skillz are all mine. -snip- > Why create something that is already built in? Because I learned something by doing it. > As I mentioned previously, the last command lists when the system was > rebooted. I'm not sure it does: $ last reboot wtmp begins Fri Jun 1 08:31:38 EDT 2012 $ uptime 9:30PM up 529 days, 8:25, 4 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.18, 0.17 ...and even so, would it show a cold boot, or only a reboot? I'll credit Doug Hardie with the best solution: $ ls -l /var/run/dmesg.boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7248 Dec 26 2010 /var/run/dmesg.boot > Keep well, You too. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 01:41:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0722106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (lax-gw17.mailroute.net [199.89.0.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0B48FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95522666286; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:32:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from gw17.lax01.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.117]) by localhost (gw17.lax01.mailroute.net.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id ntqj5b3UUNCh; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89566661A6; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AAD10206D; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chris References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.19.8.3; tzolkin = 2 Akbal; haab = 6 Zotz Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:32:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> (Chris's message of "Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:24:49 -0500") Message-ID: <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:41:04 -0000 >>>>> "Chris" == Chris writes: Chris> Why create something that is already built in? Chris> As I mentioned previously, the last command lists when the system was Chris> rebooted. You must reboot a lot. My "last" log goes back only to the first of the month, and my uptime is 16 days right now, so I can't see the most recent reboot with last. YMMV, I guess. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 01:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942EB106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F7A8FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3W7mYZ4jPLzn4; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:40:25 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <68FA56E48051EF71EC510826@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD12B9C.3070107@holgerdanske.com> References: <1841053140.95816.1339040011608.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com> <4FD12B9C.3070107@holgerdanske.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD for Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:41:29 -0000 --As of June 7, 2012 3:30:52 PM -0700, David Christensen is alleged to have said: >> For a new computer, I wouldn't go with anything earlier than FreeBSD >> 9.0, and in my case, upgrading to 9.0-STABLE proved stabler than the 9.0 >> release. > > STFW: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-March/239742.ht > ml > > It looks like -STABLE are daily development/ test builds (?): It's a bit more nuanced: -STABLE is -RELEASE plus features that are believed to be complete and tested. -CURRENT is -STABLE plus features that are still under development. I'd call -STABLE test - but not quite development - builds, if that makes sense. > ftp://ftp.allbsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-snapshots/amd64-amd64/ > > I'm looking for stability. I'll try the 9.0-RELEASE: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ This generally my choice. You can be sure it's considered final-product ready. It also allows you to use freebsd-update to get patches. (Unless you compile your own.) >> I don't recognize or don't remember DQ67SWB3 motherboard model, is it >> from MSI? > > Intel: > > http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/ > desktop-board-dq67sw.html > > I'm not sure what the "B3" suffix means, but it's on the box. > > > A few other questions for the list, please: > > 1. Does FreeBSD support encrypted disk partitions (slices)? Yes, see the Handbook: (Actually, many of your questions can be answered from the handbook. ;) ) Using them in conjunction with ZFS is a bit complicated, but can be done. (Generally, you'd want to use an encrypted slice as a disk to put ZFS on.) ZFS itself does not currently support encryption. > 2. Does the X server in FreeBSD (?) support Intel HD 2000 integrated > graphics? That's Sandy Bridge, and is supported as of 9.0. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 01:44:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4907106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr13.networksolutionsemail.com (omr13.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766748FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr4 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr13.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q581iLTh024274 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:44:21 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr4 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:57792] helo=[192.168.222.21]) by cm-omr4 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 82/BC-30503-5F851DF4; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:44:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4FD158FC.1000906@makeworld.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:44:28 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:44:22 -0000 On 6/7/2012 8:32 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Chris" == Chris writes: > > Chris> Why create something that is already built in? > Chris> As I mentioned previously, the last command lists when the system was > Chris> rebooted. > > You must reboot a lot. My "last" log goes back only to the first of the > month, and my uptime is 16 days right now, so I can't see the most > recent reboot with last. > > YMMV, I guess. > Good point, I didn't take into account the command goes about a month back. I run FBSD in a vbox, and its only console anyways. I run Debian by default but in any event, there are many reasons for reboots and for me (typically) I see about 4 reboots a month mostly due to patching and sec-fixes. So indeed, YMMV is correct. My fault for the assumption that folks boot more often than not. -- Keep well, Chris <>< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 02:02:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894F71065670 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0948C8FC12 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5822vVd060619; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:02:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206080202.q5822vVd060619@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, racerx@makeworld.com In-Reply-To: <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> Cc: Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:02:28 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 7 20:26:46 2012 > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:24:49 -0500 > From: Chris > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: find date of last boot > > On 6/7/2012 8:14 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: > > > >> dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > >> > >> Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? > > > > That was fun. Google helped me with this; the crappy skillz are all mine. > > > > --- cut here --- > > #!/bin/sh > > # > > # Find date of last boot > > # > > DAYS_UP=`uptime | awk '{print $3}'` > > SEC_UP=`echo "${DAYS_UP} * 86400" | bc` > > DATE=`date` > > EPOCH_DATE=`date -j -f "%a %b %d %T %Z %Y" "${DATE}" "+%s"` > > BOOT_SEC=`echo "${EPOCH_DATE} - ${SEC_UP}" | bc` > > BOOT_DATE=`gawk -v duh=${BOOT_SEC} 'BEGIN{print strftime("%Y-%m-%d",duh)}'` > > echo "Last boot on ${BOOT_DATE}" > > --- cut here --- > > > > Example from this machine: > > $ ./boot_date.sh > > Last boot on 2010-12-26 > > $ > > > > Enjoy. > > > > Why create something that is already built in? > As I mentioned previously, the last command lists when the system was > rebooted. Probably, because last does *not* reliably do so. To wit: $ date Thu Jun 7 20:59:44 CDT 2012 $ uptime 8:58PM up 8 days, 22:30, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.01 $ last reboot wtmp begins Tue Jun 5 17:00:58 CDT 2012 $ 'wtmp' has been rotated twice since the system was booted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 02:34:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF86106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05638FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3969827F3D; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:34:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q582YM2T004054; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:34:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:34:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <20120608043422.9a5d37a7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201206080202.q5822vVd060619@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <201206080202.q5822vVd060619@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: racerx@makeworld.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:34:31 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:02:57 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 7 20:26:46 2012 > > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:24:49 -0500 > > From: Chris > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: find date of last boot > > > > On 6/7/2012 8:14 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > > Why create something that is already built in? > > As I mentioned previously, the last command lists when the system was > > rebooted. > > Probably, because last does *not* reliably do so. > > To wit: > $ date > Thu Jun 7 20:59:44 CDT 2012 > $ uptime > 8:58PM up 8 days, 22:30, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.01 > $ last reboot > wtmp begins Tue Jun 5 17:00:58 CDT 2012 > $ > > 'wtmp' has been rotated twice since the system was booted. Maybe introducing something along the /etc/rc execution? An /etc/rc.local entry like /bin/date "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" > /var/log/thisboot.log and then just look at the file. Requires at least one reboot to take effect. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 02:47:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86931065672 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972A08FC1B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so1857700dad.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=zm0KuRTSAobvS85gTh8U/GV/o9rOVA0DuuloIbRyZc8=; b=OA+Z+6dqoYtEJrMBF9O5uPJeuVDQHqzv032G4Lu8KkcNHfPuegHvuOTIVosqqRmCi5 xy/NMvQjgrmxaXkhz60D/maK2m+pN+Gxl+8riy3r5+zfbtLAaQl6MyaKxt0yb9rtp2oY Dokcgb/o60fySN0zjDKUWxDrd5moAEG7GYjWlM7Lxxc5CgMH1l11j6J3PZ1MnMUZO7L0 jGaAy4Ss4XIXqv9oOd7f7cPiO2632VIkRiTAsiCTxXLcaSpBWZI4EmXXGARkdgfPrpOW Py8d+DjZQNBYRmCXRXqbaiYIGTW0p33NsaVsbHpxSvaJfM8op364v+f8jpVV80R5rbMY NiMQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.232.103 with SMTP id tn7mr15060739pbc.86.1339123648237; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.202.8 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:47:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120608043422.9a5d37a7.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <201206080202.q5822vVd060619@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120608043422.9a5d37a7.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:47:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkXn3gI3wDPlpP0XKZNFHL+KBcbmiKfeXKksyBWmo6jW4WYUOo3frsI/nb7zOAiRmeT8PTE Cc: racerx@makeworld.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:47:28 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Polytropon wrote: > Maybe introducing something along the /etc/rc execution? > An /etc/rc.local entry like > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/bin/date "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" > /var/log/thisboot.log > > and then just look at the file. Requires at least one reboot > to take effect. :-) > You could just put the following in /etc/rc.local date and it would be retained in /var/run/dmesg.boot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 02:47:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B07C106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F148FC18 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q582loFW028263 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:47:50 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q582loNJ028262; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:47:50 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 77DDDB7C4; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:47:19 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Chris Hill on Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:35:19 -0400 (EDT)) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> Message-Id: <20120608024719.77DDDB7C4@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:47:19 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:47:52 -0000 >> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:35:19 -0400 (EDT), >> Chris Hill said: C> $ ls -l /var/run/dmesg.boot C> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7248 Dec 26 2010 /var/run/dmesg.boot For the sake of completeness: me% stat -f %Sm /var/run/dmesg.boot Jan 10 14:56:45 2012 me% ls -l -D '%d-%b-%Y %T' /var/run/dmesg.boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6319 10-Jan-2012 14:56:45 /var/run/dmesg.boot -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Dirt and grease under the fingernails is a social no-no, as they tend to detract from a woman's jewelry and alter the taste of finger foods. --Martha Stewart's hygiene tips for Rednecks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 03:29:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E291065675 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.158.161.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771238FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:29:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5A002RP1LHXX50@nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:29:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-07_08:2012-05-21, 2012-06-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206070323 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:29:41 -0700 Message-id: <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> To: "Randal L. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:29:48 -0000 On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > You must reboot a lot. My "last" log goes back only to the first of the > month, and my uptime is 16 days right now, so I can't see the most > recent reboot with last. FreeBSD aggressively rotates the utmp/wtmp databases; most other platforms leave it in place until the sysadmin decides to rotate it per local policy. Tweaking the monthly? periodic entries would change this, I'd imagine.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 03:52:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC7A106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9548FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20120608034901569 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:49:01 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from birch.localnet (unknown [207.55.106.132]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4ED3E708D37 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by birch.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0C55E22 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id A489DC759 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q583mxET051208; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:48:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd8@a1poweruser.com's message of "Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:15:25 -0400") Message-ID: <87haumxy38.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:52:31 -0000 Fbsd8 writes: > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. > > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? In addition to the other responses: sysctl kern.boottime -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 04:55:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DE7106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (lax-gw17.mailroute.net [199.89.0.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25428FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A1A666208; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:55:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from gw17.lax01.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.117]) by localhost (gw17.lax01.mailroute.net.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id hYZKv5GhSER3; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:55:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7907F666229; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:55:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6089421CD; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:55:42 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chris Hill References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.19.8.3; tzolkin = 2 Akbal; haab = 6 Zotz Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:55:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Chris Hill's message of "Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:35:19 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <8662b2767l.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:55:45 -0000 >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Hill writes: Chris> I'll credit Doug Hardie with the best solution: Chris> $ ls -l /var/run/dmesg.boot Chris> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7248 Dec 26 2010 /var/run/dmesg.boot Ouch! There've been some security patches since then. Are you sure you want to tell someone that a machine has been running for over 18 months? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 04:58:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC86106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from gw16.lax01.mailroute.net (lax-gw16.mailroute.net [199.89.0.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4708FC1C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gw16.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B59B5BC31D; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:50:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from gw16.lax01.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.116]) by localhost (gw16.lax01.mailroute.net.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id DCb-U-gJ-PjW; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:50:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by gw16.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3680A5BC22B; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:50:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2461721BF; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chuck Swiger References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.19.8.3; tzolkin = 2 Akbal; haab = 6 Zotz Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:50:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> (Chuck Swiger's message of "Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:29:41 -0700") Message-ID: <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:58:04 -0000 >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger writes: Chuck> FreeBSD aggressively rotates the utmp/wtmp databases; most other Chuck> platforms leave it in place until the sysadmin decides to rotate Chuck> it per local policy. Chuck> Tweaking the monthly? periodic entries would change this, I'd Chuck> imagine.... Sure, but the question was likely involving a stock system, so yes, your mileage may vary, but let's consider a solution that works for a default system. "last reboot" isn't it. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 05:02:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107791065763 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C071E8FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:02:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=D8PF24tj c=1 sm=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=xCuMbNp8hPoA:10 a=OA0Fmnw7F14A:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=MnkTnmICAAAA:8 a=ii_shwsMCsRNDqDar5QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VAeyC-Qft3gA:10 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 204.210.114.114 Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:26954] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EB/99-13336-B6781DF4; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 05:02:35 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B1C9D5C91; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:03:16 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:03:16 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20120608050316.GA2190@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Tim Daneliuk , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com> <20120607051901.GA2205@holstein.holy.cow> <4FD0ADFB.8030508@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FD0ADFB.8030508@tundraware.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Somewhat OT - A Makefile Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 05:02:37 -0000 in message <4FD0ADFB.8030508@tundraware.com>, wrote Tim Daneliuk thusly... > > On 06/07/2012 12:19 AM, Parv wrote: > > in message<4FCF48AF.307@tundraware.com>, > > wrote Tim Daneliuk thusly... > >> > > ... > >> Within a makefile, I need to assign the name of a program as > >> in: > >> > >> FOO = "bar". > >> > >> The problem is that 'bar' may also be know as, say, "bar.sh". > > ... > >> Is there a simple way to determine which form "bar" or "bar.sh" > >> on on a given system *at the time the make is run*? If both > >> exist, I will pick one arbitrarily, > > ... > >> For example I don't think this works when both are there: > >> > >> FOO = $(shell `which bar bar.sh) > > > > Modify the subshell command to ... > > > > which bar bar.sh | head -n 1 > > > > > > ... as in (for FreeBSD make) ... > > > > shell=`which zsh sh tcsh csh 2>/dev/null | fgrep -v 'not found' | head -n 3` ... > Thanks. Happy to help. > I came up with something similar, but I think your recipe is a bit > more elegant ... It was "If both exist, I will pick one arbitrarily ... " that helped much in modification of the original. - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 05:24:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26055106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615C38FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:24:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26885861 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:23:53 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q585NqJq003404 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:23:52 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q585Nqpr003403 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:23:52 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:23:52 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120608052352.GA3251@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602164025.GA44278@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120602190745.GA10212@external.screwed.box> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 05:24:01 -0000 Peter Vereshagin wrote: > VS> What video card would the collective mind of FreeBSD users recommend? > VS> I'm not a gamer, this box runs FreeBSD only with a recent xorg, I > VS> often watch movies on it. > > I'd try with nvidia. Any modern one has support of 'xvideo' extension with the > 'driver nv' that is 'just enough' for watching movies. > > I've no modern hardware but the model that works good for years for > me is: tnt2 agp 32M. Just the same as out of every TransNeft's > trashcan around the corner these days. ;-) They gave me the following from the TransNeft trashcan, indeed: VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]" Driver "nv" It says "AGP" but in reality it is PCI, perhaps some very rare species :) It has X-Video Extension version 2.2, my movies are back, hurrah! In the meanwhile, I'll wait for the development of the SandyBrdige Intel driver. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 05:26:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA23106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094E88FC19 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:26:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26885904 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:26:09 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q585Q9h5003438 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:26:09 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q585Q90m003437 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:26:09 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:26:08 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120608052608.GB3251@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 05:26:11 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > 2. It looses one of the HDDs during intensive read/write operations: > > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 4 port 0 > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 000000c0 ss 000000f0 rs 000000f0 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c617 > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 00000001 ss 00000000 rs 00000001 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c017 > Jun 2 00:57:20 vas kernel: ahcich1: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080) > > I shall of course check the HDD and cable, but they worked flawlessly on > the previous system. The cable is OK. I have tried different SATA slots on the motherbord too, the HDD losses persist. How can a rule out a kernel driver bug in ahci or ada, perhaps a PR is due? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 05:59:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13183106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA0E8FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 05:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q585xU87041099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:59:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q585xU87041099 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339135171; bh=dKuewmRuvrfF+Lnf5/eEIz5ozFEs83LJrPIc5pHdPzA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=KchycoR9j5UUU2J7ebD4ZPi2CM5CtCsrCErPQMuiazssmk9IWP0ZNIVgTuO8o6dpp PDjxZmfbTX81GXJ5je8ebtXNFAQxTeEVMMeh2ss5B8/GaHeMBM9c8y4CAvoTnFP3lG NRChoaMD1fcjy5XfzNRpV5ZTuAaEN3N9jA4twHMs= Message-ID: <4FD194BA.3060208@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:59:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFA10510AB57AD141A1E1C816" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Configuration problem with IPv6 router ("cannot forward src") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 05:59:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFA10510AB57AD141A1E1C816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/2012 23:36, Bruce Cran wrote: > I'm trying to set up a IPv6 router (running -current) on my home > network. My ISP gives me a /128 via PPP and I have a /48 allocation, > which I use to give em0 and tun0 public addresses in different subnets > (tun0 is assigned the address via ppp.linkup). > I've added all the IPv6 settings to rc.conf (ipv6_gateway_enable, > ipv6_network_interfaces, rtadvd_enable etc.) and I can ping IPv6 sites > from the router. rtadvd can be limited to operate on a specific interface. Try setting rtadvd_interfaces=3D"em0" in /etc/rc.conf > The problem is that rtadvd continues advertising the default gateway as= > tun0's link-local address - and pinging from a machine on the network > results in "cannot forward src" messages on the router (strangely, > despite hisaddr being fe80::205:... in ppp.log, the kernel logs the > address as fe80:f::205:...). Try setting: ipv6_default_interface=3D"tun0" and possibly also ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"-interface tun0" I use a gif tunnel (IPv6 over IPv4) for my IPv6 connectivity -- no native support for IPv6 in my ADSL router -- so not exactly equivalent but pretty similar in many ways. > Is there some extra configuration I've likely missed that's needed when= > using IPv6 via PPP? Probably. The good news is that once you've got it running the IPv6 support in FreeBSD is rock solid and works like a charm. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFA10510AB57AD141A1E1C816 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/RlMIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzohgCfbUc5w+JhT3r1BWXdQzTxi7vZ Hp8An3PI1Xj9PKEDSOM8Tqe/gXqpc1Av =v7my -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFA10510AB57AD141A1E1C816-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 06:12:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CDD106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361668FC14 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q586Cq6o041395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:12:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q586Cq6o041395 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339135972; bh=+sYP91YA0qmN6G/Y+P0fijw9wwR9DulwN65kNuDFQk4=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=m+nNNtIYxTBPeGfQXb2Wl4mdjiKvArPpVhklLs2Z4v/KfQ10D31BlZJJhfcT9yePp Eiq5fg1OF8DqAkkpS8Hn7ZYWAaKLAmU8kjf4GMrJAPcN/uPd33rSastuEpCWHQRBcb E5PWcgHliy2KABy45lcCaiWdWFHwLSyPJR+xB8Ao= Message-ID: <4FD197E3.2080301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:12:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0D448D0ACA38371B3737533A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:12:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0D448D0ACA38371B3737533A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/06/2012 00:15, Fbsd8 wrote: > dmesg command does not show date of last boot. >=20 > Are there some other commands to find date of last boot? % last reboot will show the date of the last reboot if it is still in the current /var/log/utx.log Or at least it should: testing on my own system while writing this failed to show the date of my last reboot. Looks like you've stumbled across a bug. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig0D448D0ACA38371B3737533A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/Rl+MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIykDgCfXjcbgsaktVjoKpiBKuosWYO7 OfAAnR/REBbZ9Yj2G4Np3+8D4n52tO8P =OfhV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0D448D0ACA38371B3737533A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 06:19:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E5C106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDC18FC23 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q586JVeO041504 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:19:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q586JVeO041504 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339136373; bh=CUmBmqljYgqjYdbR/Tu9wjZAWsLn+hpSsB9gyAw25YE=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=R2fzkbYp3oRd4KPkNLjOXmIEzhxwqWFX+X3bADRoRmBQ6q/HeRidf3K/HBGaywkp6 Yw36A7k8DmcfehrfRjncLDQSON/nxll4/Se4GPyFkY9QWEYFtKArH0aqxTbpFRd5Gh yS260Ar7hiEK13tTRoJy134YpHzxCCAJGK1qnfVc= Message-ID: <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:19:31 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig78624A2F9D51F8EE869FA27F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:19:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig78624A2F9D51F8EE869FA27F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/06/2012 05:50, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Sure, but the question was likely involving a stock system, so yes, you= r > mileage may vary, but let's consider a solution that works for a defaul= t > system. "last reboot" isn't it. It's not that. 'last reboot' seems to be broken at the moment, at least on stable/9: lucid-nonsense:~:% uname -a FreeBSD lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #15 r236465: Sat Jun 2 23:14:59 BST 2012 root@lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUCID-NON= SENSE amd64 I rebooted a few days ago: lucid-nonsense:~:% uptime 7:14AM up 3 days, 8:18, 1 user, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.01 And the utx.log file was last rotated over a week ago: lucid-nonsense:~:% ls -la /var/log/utx* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 394 Jun 7 17:51 /var/log/utx.lastlogin -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 16841 Jun 8 07:06 /var/log/utx.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24878 May 31 22:41 /var/log/utx.log.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 13741 Apr 30 08:50 /var/log/utx.log.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 27886 Mar 31 22:52 /var/log/utx.log.2 but last(1) isn't coming up with the goods: lucid-nonsense:~:% last reboot wtmp begins Fri Jun 1 06:14:46 BST 2012 (nor does it work if I tell last to use the older utx.log files) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig78624A2F9D51F8EE869FA27F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/RmXMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwDPwCfZxxd3owiUBZqFHsMukxAU/Dq 3r4An1XfHUh7rvZfNMVk0VXl9ttr8tq9 =dA2e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig78624A2F9D51F8EE869FA27F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 06:23:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5761106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cknipe@savage.za.org) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573738FC08 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so2531773obc.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:23:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=sCKNDAVSfEbaqGfVhtg4DH45xDOvsLf/eDrFtgVOB4Q=; b=kddktB1VPuXh9Cy7Lt+hEXvxbXlGVFTotae9kXMz7c9iZX0v1POVwYEtNTDkbqKt8g yb2DgYAkgM9UGIm47m6UXMUEvj1+U9PMV6WFdyD+wpgNgtCxCB8DF7zjzjSLD0G2i7ZF Fr6LAix8L3N0k2MYotO+5igFc5NW0DdFEGlyr0/usLb8Mtrkrqg4N9UltKFnjWKO2yC8 NBbAuyxnITWZhujf1lfhTDMT1ijzs8f2ciR8YICKy/NwuGwZ9c2leN96mCpIurRaVN9u jfLAiW18JY/ukG+vvgDk3bvUc1FEWTNI3slfkwkQiiGDPqGuUxfpiAfy4lMR6vZwez0s Bxug== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.162.38 with SMTP id xx6mr4901898obb.50.1339136615639; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: cknipe@savage.za.org Received: by 10.76.86.195 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:23:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [196.43.208.62] In-Reply-To: <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:23:35 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GWj15hDXtb_dZLyaaIWkRZ0VH0M Message-ID: From: Chris Knipe To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmy5yRO1tUZedoUbj4Ux4SzzOScNINwoOfqjpju3WyJOArnheviR67L7rOELMLVsrnpxJ16 Cc: FreeBSD - , "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:23:36 -0000 > It's not that. =A0'last reboot' seems to be broken at the moment, at leas= t > on stable/9: > but last(1) isn't coming up with the goods: > > lucid-nonsense:~:% last reboot > > wtmp begins Fri Jun =A01 06:14:46 BST 2012 last reads from /var/log/wtmp - which more than likely got rotated since your last reboot. --=20 Regards, Chris Knipe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 06:26:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1955106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC798FC19 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScseU-0006Pr-6u for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:26:30 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:26:30 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:26:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 4 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2) Subject: OT - enjoy it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:26:40 -0000 Chinese advertising of soccer championship Euro 2012 http://avaxnews.com/wow/Chinese_Advertising_UEFA_Euro_2012.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 06:27:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80EB1065672 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3260E8FC1D for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q586RPpa042082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:27:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q586RPpa042082 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339136845; bh=AkL6AmpsgHgCOOD390J++Nz+P5pSSYnofmIouG8uOj0=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=ltaAgYyB7H0EkHrjfSHeY9jfl2NLh23qIdMcTP1upU0FAzVdoRtudRoVx4gSKA4zw Oz5SPrZ2a+juryKBi8ousfQq6nOmVQMPL6PGqQD70c/8/xX7+L0gngG1yLqwH8WlS9 anW05GF+GbU7d8U+l1GjLLd6ARFTt9ihJEYnt/Es= Message-ID: <4FD19B4D.8070508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:27:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Knipe References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3013D58552728A34BE5A078E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD - , "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:27:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3013D58552728A34BE5A078E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/06/2012 07:23, Chris Knipe wrote: >> It's not that. 'last reboot' seems to be broken at the moment, at lea= st >> on stable/9: >=20 >> but last(1) isn't coming up with the goods: >> >> lucid-nonsense:~:% last reboot >> >> wtmp begins Fri Jun 1 06:14:46 BST 2012 >=20 > last reads from /var/log/wtmp - which more than likely got rotated > since your last reboot. No. Please read more carefully. last(1) used to use /var/log/wtmp, but not on 9.x or above, which uses /var/log/utx.log -- a different binary format, but basically the same idea as wtmp. And, no: as I showed, that file was not rotated since my last reboot. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig3013D58552728A34BE5A078E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/Rm00ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIymqQCeILfAKM+P79lW/x0x1RtX8Gpu L+EAn1/WjtuOwv4EKc4vHr4o3w5ctDao =QoCW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3013D58552728A34BE5A078E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 07:44:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2908F1065670 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66778FC20 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Scts3-0003uC-Qk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:44:35 +0200 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([91.216.237.46]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:44:35 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:44:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:44:23 +0300 Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <91C240AC-29C0-40A1-86C4-C41A48720CAF@forestinformatics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120605 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 In-Reply-To: <91C240AC-29C0-40A1-86C4-C41A48720CAF@forestinformatics.com> Subject: Re: setting gcc46 as default compiler? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:44:45 -0000 Jeff Hamann напиÑал: > I've built and installed the gcc46 compiler(s) - need gfortran - and I can't seem to find the correct documentation on how to update /etc/make.conf for including the gfortran46. > > This is what mine currently looks like: > > $ cat make.conf > # added by use.perl 2012-06-07 03:03:21 > PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 > ..if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/*)&& exists(/usr/local/bin/gcc46) > CC=gcc46 > CXX=g++46 > CPP=cpp46 > FC=gfortran46 > ..endif > > FFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=athlon64 > CC=gcc46 > CXX=g++46 > CPP=cpp46 > FC=gfortran46 > > $ > > Am I close? Help? When I want some port to use gcc46 I use USE_GCC=4.6+. This takes care of depending ports on gcc port. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 08:07:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0483C1065675 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3E78FC16 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:07:40 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/QmxpSnNscESkXFsFrv3eFgR5ZtnVpRiH6Hv1xIpoak= c=1 sm=0 a=IimOfUeSENwA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=ZubcGFkXAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=Wi8YH2NmAAAA:8 a=nD2y9G3bYzz1JCBC7lcA:9 a=kDU4Vuk1014A:10 a=CeCXPTdWX8cA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:45229] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id E0/24-28342-5C2B1DF4; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:07:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:07:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: David Christensen Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD for Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:07:41 -0000 Snippet from David Christensen : > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-March/239742.html > It looks like -STABLE are daily development/ test builds (?): > ftp://ftp.allbsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-snapshots/amd64-amd64/ > I'm looking for stability. I'll try the 9.0-RELEASE: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ I had a weird problem with 9.0-RELEASE: after updating a NetBSD source tree by "cvs up -dP", the system froze and I needed the Reset button. A couple days later, after better than 24 hours inactivity, I heard sounds of reboot and verified by looking. File system was not cleanly umounted and had to be fsck'ed, which was dome automatically on the reboot. Given my very new hardware, I figured to upgrade to STABLE, building from source. That worked, and the weird problem has not reappeared. I didn't even ask the list for help. I suppose I could also have tried RELENG_9_0, maybe a patch would have fixed the problem, but my very new hardware and new Xorg version in the works led me to go to STABLE. Daily development/test builds sound more like HEAD (=CURRENT) than STABLE. STABLE is more tested than HEAD. I think if I ever try FreeBSD-HEAD, I'd install to a separate partition and keep the STABLE installation intact. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 10:05:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72404106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38818FC14 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 26892545 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:05:43 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q58A5gZs008479 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:05:42 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q58A5gUd008478 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:05:42 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:05:42 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120608100542.GA8255@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120516042218.GA57757@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB473E7.6090307@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120517050114.GA93590@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4FB55364.2050208@ShaneWare.Biz> <20120602053805.GB42456@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120608052608.GB3251@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120608052608.GB3251@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:05:45 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > 2. It looses one of the HDDs during intensive read/write operations: > > > > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 4 port 0 > > Jun 2 00:55:33 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 000000c0 ss 000000f0 rs 000000f0 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c617 > > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 > > Jun 2 00:56:48 vas kernel: ahcich1: is 00000000 cs 00000001 ss 00000000 rs 00000001 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0000c017 > > Jun 2 00:57:20 vas kernel: ahcich1: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080) > > > > I shall of course check the HDD and cable, but they worked flawlessly on > > the previous system. > > The cable is OK. I have tried different SATA slots on the motherbord too, > the HDD losses persist. How can a rule out a kernel driver bug in ahci > or ada, perhaps a PR is due? Well, there is already a very similar PR kern/161248 -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 11:08:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B623D1065676 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265548FC1E for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q58B8Ss5046571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:08:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q58B8Ss5046571 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339153708; bh=2YS+dgyOcsigbftZMI2YpGgRRYVso9iHMjTRUDWRZ1g=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=s8OjqQqF89RaV99WO4H6H5bV09MkVaGNNpBPtt0TKrM/uI2ZuBz8/EQSOyeeJ7/gN LdKM/TDYuXkGkGWbuQpvvnVdbkrli8PNa1Dx1ocLa7obGoRSTXhOznMbFPru7Xlcfk XcNQFUKWGfnFCm2AlEL4OAXP9NHf21gK3/t0eLXo= Message-ID: <4FD1DD24.4060908@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:08:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC2B7A5D73E1FA9E15275A6CA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:08:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC2B7A5D73E1FA9E15275A6CA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090907090006040305040407" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090907090006040305040407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/06/2012 07:19, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 08/06/2012 05:50, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> Sure, but the question was likely involving a stock system, so yes, yo= ur >> mileage may vary, but let's consider a solution that works for a defau= lt >> system. "last reboot" isn't it. >=20 > It's not that. 'last reboot' seems to be broken at the moment, at leas= t > on stable/9: >=20 > lucid-nonsense:~:% uname -a > FreeBSD lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD > 9.0-STABLE #15 r236465: Sat Jun 2 23:14:59 BST 2012 > root@lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUCID-N= ONSENSE > amd64 >=20 > I rebooted a few days ago: >=20 > lucid-nonsense:~:% uptime > 7:14AM up 3 days, 8:18, 1 user, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.01 >=20 > And the utx.log file was last rotated over a week ago: >=20 > lucid-nonsense:~:% ls -la /var/log/utx* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 394 Jun 7 17:51 /var/log/utx.lastlogin > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 16841 Jun 8 07:06 /var/log/utx.log > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24878 May 31 22:41 /var/log/utx.log.0 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 13741 Apr 30 08:50 /var/log/utx.log.1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 27886 Mar 31 22:52 /var/log/utx.log.2 >=20 > but last(1) isn't coming up with the goods: >=20 > lucid-nonsense:~:% last reboot >=20 > wtmp begins Fri Jun 1 06:14:46 BST 2012 >=20 > (nor does it work if I tell last to use the older utx.log files) Having investigated, the problem appears to be that wtmp used to use the literal string 'reboot' in the username field of its records, while in struct utmpx, that field is left blank but the record type field indicates if this is the time the system shutdown or rebooted. The attached patch fixes the problem for me. Or see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D168844 lucid-nonsense:~:% /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/last/last reboot boot time Mon Jun 4 22:58 shutdown time Mon Jun 4 22:54 boot time Sun Jun 3 09:43 shutdown time Sun Jun 3 09:39 wtmp begins Fri Jun 1 06:14:46 BST 2012 In passing, apparently it seems that creating a user with a username of 'reboot' is probably not recommended. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------090907090006040305040407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; x-mac-type="0"; x-mac-creator="0"; name="last.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="last.diff" Index: usr.bin/last/last.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- usr.bin/last/last.c (revision 236465) +++ usr.bin/last/last.c (working copy) @@ -64,6 +64,7 @@ =20 typedef struct arg { char *name; /* argument */ +#define REBOOT_TYPE -1 #define HOST_TYPE -2 #define TTY_TYPE -3 #define USER_TYPE -4 @@ -180,6 +181,8 @@ if (argc) { setlinebuf(stdout); for (argv +=3D optind; *argv; ++argv) { + if (strcmp(*argv, "reboot") =3D=3D 0) + addarg(REBOOT_TYPE, *argv); #define COMPATIBILITY #ifdef COMPATIBILITY /* code to allow "last p5" to work */ @@ -391,6 +394,11 @@ =20 for (step =3D arglist; step; step =3D step->next) switch(step->type) { + case REBOOT_TYPE: + if (bp->ut_type =3D=3D BOOT_TIME || + bp->ut_type =3D=3D SHUTDOWN_TIME) + return (YES); + break; case HOST_TYPE: if (!strcasecmp(step->name, bp->ut_host)) return (YES); --------------090907090006040305040407-- --------------enigC2B7A5D73E1FA9E15275A6CA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/R3SsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwjpACbBKm85yIGgz9peO9u6nd+oYXU WvIAniLo342WBfdNQEqRX2tPyjDhH/89 =PC63 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC2B7A5D73E1FA9E15275A6CA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 11:51:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D15106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576538FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so1339785ggn.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:followup-to :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type; bh=mrujFay7tla4dYL8VIoZW53uGAXGb0kSLKcUHKDZpog=; b=cOI3uOGSdtqlF/z5FvONFH/96cM3SoJg6aOEjrwWKu3oYA4lncCyz0wd7qefCvOydT LcIT5ay7CulV7vKETj346VDToXZvtyBPre7RzGgCkVhQIcFnNYSsYL1AW9SGbIZgdDso sS+sfD14nxMBB57FpIeQ7ec1PBdm4E2j5JYWk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:followup-to :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=mrujFay7tla4dYL8VIoZW53uGAXGb0kSLKcUHKDZpog=; b=TTX21S+bpIRvbmldN7C7XhHaYf7DJ7ZBFJbO7IopbKr/Q9IUEGcuirYQzdkXuOaCox NNj6gqM2uG36I6VTxFZkB5Hb5QrqWfcTRSw8ZNzvCQUr25IN4rbBkM6UCzHSiztQtFj2 07CtlK7NCUnx8r6bJGoDHc55uZX/9hpuFYyQGoJ/nsI5TAqaf1I668TGxzdevNsOriwM LEVSVS0wx6E5lVffUDyCwTH7lnu//5SsUydEuxLULC31vNd7RpBj4g5WWkiIXnWLUbMe dBOoXVDLOQ2RK0AABYEti50AGVF31Y3pxGXXwXAddEovMEZSE/wmsaINDFvLQ8Ipmk/D +73w== Received: by 10.236.152.97 with SMTP id c61mr6408488yhk.130.1339156270294; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e19sm8900940ann.10.2012.06.08.04.51.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W825735n6z2CG4F for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:50:52 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120608075052.6342c90a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4FD1DD24.4060908@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4FD1360D.1060208@a1poweruser.com> <4FD15461.6090109@makeworld.com> <86obou7fly.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5E0240CD-6B6C-4221-A656-0006254132F9@mac.com> <86ipf276g7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4FD19973.5040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4FD1DD24.4060908@infracaninophile.co.uk> Followup-To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/6debON/XoqFbSQfzkVNkzwp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkGKe+ZATPUCrKn+ltYG+eQvae33GmuNzimz1fLa/xHu1vkks2yGHKFWgPhAE2RqY93lJ+f Subject: Re: find date of last boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:51:16 -0000 --Sig_/6debON/XoqFbSQfzkVNkzwp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:08:20 +0100 Matthew Seaman articulated: >In passing, apparently it seems that creating a user with a username of >'reboot' is probably not recommended. That would seem like a good idea. Interestingly enough, I had a friend who had a password: "PassWord" that he used as a joke. On day he tried it on an internet site for a throw away account he was creating and the site rejected it claiming it was not a valid password. Perhaps FreeBSD could have some sort of validation in place to refuse to accept certain user-IDs such as "reboot". --=20 Jerry =E2=99=94 Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:07:31 -0000 Hi All, If this question is better suited for a different list please let me know. Simply stated, my question is 'What is the best source for identifying supported hardware?'. Having said that, allow me to pose an example... I've attempted to identify if various ethernet controllers are supported by FreeBSD and the drivers. I used the hardware notes and manpages for the respective ethernet drivers. The information between the two sometimes seems inconsistent and/or inaccurate. For example, the BCM5719 and BCM5720 are unsupported in FreeBSD at this time. The hardware notes at freebsd.org do not specify these controllers are supported. Inspection of the bge(4) manpage implies that the controllers are supported as seen in the description section where it states: "The bge driver provides support for various NICs based on the Broadcom BCM570x, 571x, 572x, 575x, 576x, 578x, 5776x and 5778x Gigabit Ethernet controller chips and the 590x and 5779x Fast Ethernet controller chips." I browsed the source and found many references to the BCM5719 and BCM5720. However, I am unfamiliar enough with driver programming in C to identify if a controller is fully supported. Also, I attempted to identify whether the Intel i350 is supported. It's not listed in the hardware notes or the igb(4) manpage so I suspect it is not supported. When I view the igb source, the i350 is referenced numerous times. Are these references simply code in preparation for support of the i350? -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 15:39:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580AA106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3418FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd1Hq-0002Pd-BY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:39:42 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:39:42 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:39:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20120607145901.3022770d@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:45 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:59:01 -0400, Jerry wrote: > Ubuntu, > Debian, and Fedora, and projects such as KDE, GNOME and X.org are in the > process of deprecating HAL as it has "become a large monolithic > unmaintainable mess". Well, I finally got it working. I'm far from an expert in this area, but what I think was happening was that the touchpad was grabbing /dev/psm0, and then X.org tried to allocate the same port for the USB mouse, which of course failed (even though I had specified a Device of /dev/ums0, and set AutoAddDevices to Off so as to take hald out of the picture). The solution for me was to run moused *on port /dev/ums0* and then specify the device as /dev/sysmouse in xorg.conf. However, that leads me to another question: my amateurish way to get moused to run on /dev/ums0 was to hack /etc/rc.d/moused and hard code it. I don't think that's very good, and I suspect that the "right" way to do it was to set some variable in /etc/rc.conf. Can anyone guide me on how that should be done, or point me to a fine manual? Thamks to all for the responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 15:47:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91621065672 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@avioc.org) Received: from gage.amig.no (gage.amig.no [85.252.162.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919548FC19 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.internal.amig.no (mail.internal.amig.no [192.168.80.4]) by gage.amig.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB12153443; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:39:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.internal.amig.no Received: from gage.amig.no ([192.168.80.4]) by mail.internal.amig.no (mail.internal.amig.no [192.168.80.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XSEfVU_OpLmx; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:39:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.24.149.154] (host-184-166-46-72.kls-mt.client.bresnan.net [184.166.46.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gage.amig.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 752DA15343F; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:39:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD21CB4.1030002@avioc.org> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:39:32 -0600 From: Brandon Weisz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuration problem with IPv6 router ("cannot forward src") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:47:42 -0000 Make sure you are only advertising a /64 addr prefixlen in rtadvd.conf, and not the entire /48. On 6/7/2012 4:36 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > I'm trying to set up a IPv6 router (running -current) on my home > network. My ISP gives me a /128 via PPP and I have a /48 allocation, > which I use to give em0 and tun0 public addresses in different subnets > (tun0 is assigned the address via ppp.linkup). > I've added all the IPv6 settings to rc.conf (ipv6_gateway_enable, > ipv6_network_interfaces, rtadvd_enable etc.) and I can ping IPv6 sites > from the router. > > The problem is that rtadvd continues advertising the default gateway > as tun0's link-local address - and pinging from a machine on the > network results in "cannot forward src" messages on the router > (strangely, despite hisaddr being fe80::205:... in ppp.log, the kernel > logs the address as fe80:f::205:...). > > Is there some extra configuration I've likely missed that's needed > when using IPv6 via PPP? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 15:51:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A820D1065673 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA188FC1F for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd1TN-0003W0-16 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:51:37 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:51:37 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:51:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20120607145901.3022770d@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:51:38 -0000 On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:59:01 -0400, Jerry wrote: > >> Ubuntu, >> Debian, and Fedora, and projects such as KDE, GNOME and X.org are in >> the process of deprecating HAL as it has "become a large monolithic >> unmaintainable mess". > > Well, I finally got it working. I'm far from an expert in this area, but > what I think was happening was that the touchpad was grabbing /dev/psm0, > and then X.org tried to allocate the same port for the USB mouse, which > of course failed (even though I had specified a Device of /dev/ums0, and > set AutoAddDevices to Off so as to take hald out of the picture). > > The solution for me was to run moused *on port /dev/ums0* and then > specify the device as /dev/sysmouse in xorg.conf. > > However, that leads me to another question: my amateurish way to get > moused to run on /dev/ums0 was to hack /etc/rc.d/moused and hard code > it. > I don't think that's very good, and I suspect that the "right" way to do > it was to set some variable in /etc/rc.conf. > > Can anyone guide me on how that should be done, or point me to a fine > manual? > > Thamks to all for the responses. > Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man rc.conf. moused_port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 16:02:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6101065672 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [93.89.92.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D91B8FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E48E64ED; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:03:01 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=GjJGa0cxY8+0 okVOUeu0AvG9lmU=; b=D6MeF8EgFPT6s1EwZzbD1GTXtBpzYF0N3VXLQpil7y+N 5Z9nwrNjNrSI7A4KiQipBqtstvNTzCkiFUxnlY2xZSt3Mh6aT/DGO1eqD4MDIuEE IZTLxaAC4Z8hA6v13mnIeZdMUFmgE7uem/Wdl/ur7SrkoW/m9s0tcSbFtMcnVYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=KR4Bcc IdulbGYaVUOT1XzGmg+eNQpCdTmvIUvUsz7UeFLnOwnVkvlfo3hmSM9k7MbTwone UqarwH4C3ZchlApeF99sZ9YitJiZVmsRT3x2qGCZgqNFE5ZfQdlv62u9l/9xgsm9 3mBco7bFIdWbK/+jZ2ILNyzklRGRW1Hnxqp7M= Received: from [192.168.2.12] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80235E64EC; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:03:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FD221D5.8060306@cran.org.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:01:25 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201206072256.q57MuWXC058337@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206072256.q57MuWXC058337@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuration problem with IPv6 router ("cannot forward src") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:02:24 -0000 On 07/06/2012 23:56, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Please provide the output from these two commands: > ifconfig -a > netstat -nr > on both the router and on an 'inside' machine. (identifying which is which:) > > There is also a question of 'where' the /48 comes from -- and how > traffic to those addresses is being routed from the outside world. The /48 came from my ISP, so it should be getting routed correctly. ifconfig -a (with ral0/lo0 removed): em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=4219b ether [em0_MAC] inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 inet6 fe80::[em0_MAC]%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet6 [prefix]:a::b prefixlen 64 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active em1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=4219b ether [em1_MAC] inet6 fe80::[em1_MAC]%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1492 options=80000 inet6 fe80::[em0_MAC]%tun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xf inet [MYADDR] --> [HISADDR] netmask 0xffffff00 inet6 [prefix]:c::b prefixlen 64 nd6 options=21 Opened by PID 1092 Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default [HISADDR] UGS 0 2476 tun0 [MYADDR] link#15 UHS 0 0 lo0 [HISADDR] link#15 UH 0 0 tun0 127.0.0.1 link#14 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.2.0/24 link#1 U 0 3985 em0 192.168.2.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 => default fe80::[em0_MAC]%tun0 UGS tun0 ::1 link#14 UH lo0 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 [prefix]:c::/64 link#15 U tun0 [prefix]:c::1 link#15 UHS lo0 [prefix]:a::/64 link#1 U em0 [prefix]:a::1 link#1 UHS lo0 fe80::/10 ::1 UGRS lo0 fe80::%em0/64 link#1 U em0 fe80::[em0_MAC]%em0 link#1 UHS lo0 fe80::%em1/64 link#2 U em1 fe80::[em1_MAC]%em1 link#2 UHS lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 link#14 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#14 UHS lo0 fe80::%tun0/64 link#15 US tun0 fe80::[em0_MAC]%tun0 link#15 UHS lo0 ff01::%em0/32 fe80::[em0_MAC]%em0 U em0 ff01::%em1/32 fe80::[em1_MAC]%em1 U em1 ff01::%lo0/32 ::1 U lo0 ff01::%tun0/32 fe80::[em0_MAC]%tun0 US tun0 ff02::/16 ::1 UGRS lo0 ff02::%em0/32 fe80::[em0_MAC]%em0 U em0 ff02::%em1/32 fe80::[em1_MAC]%em1 U em1 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%tun0/32 fe80::[em0_MAC]%tun0 UGS tun0 rtadvd.conf contains: em0:\ :addrs#1:addr="[prefix]:a::":prefixlen#64;tc=ether:raflags="o": rc.conf contains: ifconfig_em0=" inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_em0_ipv6=" inet6 [prefix]:a::b" ifconfig_em1="up" pf_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" ppp_enable="YES" ppp_nat="NO" ppp_goscomb_mode="ddial" ppp_goscomb_nat="NO" ppp_profile="isp" ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ipv6_network_interfaces="em0 em1 tun0" dhcpd_enable="YES" dhcpd6_enable="NO" dhcpd_flags="-q" dhcpd6_flags="-q" dhcpd_conf="/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf" dhcpd6_conf="/usr/local/etc/dhcpd6.conf" dhcpd_ifaces="em0" dhcpd6_ifaces="em0" dhcpd_withumask="022" dhcpd6_withumask="022" dhcpd_chuser_enable="YES" dhcpd6_chuser_enable="YES" dhcpd_withuser="dhcpd" dhcpd6_withuser="dhcpd" dhcpd_withgroup="dhcpd" dhcpd6_withgroup="dhcpd" dhcpd_chroot_enable="YES" dhcpd6_chroot_enable="YES" dhcpd_devfs_enable="YES" dhcpd6_devfs_enable="YES" dhcpd_rootdir="/var/db/dhcpd" dhcpd6_rootdir="/var/db/dhcpd6" rtadvd_enable="NO" rtadvd_interfaces="em0" I've tried configuring a machine with a static configuration, bypassing any issues with rtadvd/dhcpd6 so I'm fairly sure the problem is on the router. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 16:11:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F641065674 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592EE8FC17 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF906.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.249.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q58GBeYs074575; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:11:41 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q58GBi02019663; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:11:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q58GBW0J097808; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:11:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206081611.q58GBW0J097808@fire.js.berklix.net> To: grarpamp From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:13:45 EDT." Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:11:32 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:11:49 -0000 grarpamp wrote: > Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is > pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all > boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? The hope for a jumper is insufficient. Cracking open laptops is no fun. It's not often that they unscrew easily; usually considerable fear of breaking innards or chassis. Hoping a jumper Might be under an easily unscrewable panel seems unlikely. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 16:27:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD37A106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5314E8FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q58GRarP052300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:27:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q58GRarP052300 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q58GRarP052300; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FD227F1.40607@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:27:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Miller References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig09D0C58E0119DEFF6AB16019" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How do I determine support for $xx? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:27:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig09D0C58E0119DEFF6AB16019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/06/2012 16:07, Rick Miller wrote: > If this question is better suited for a different list please let me > know. Simply stated, my question is 'What is the best source for > identifying supported hardware?'. Having said that, allow me to pose > an example... >=20 > I've attempted to identify if various ethernet controllers are > supported by FreeBSD and the drivers. I used the hardware notes and > manpages for the respective ethernet drivers. The information between > the two sometimes seems inconsistent and/or inaccurate. For example, > the BCM5719 and BCM5720 are unsupported in FreeBSD at this time. The > hardware notes at freebsd.org do not specify these controllers are > supported. Inspection of the bge(4) manpage implies that the > controllers are supported as seen in the description section where it > states: >=20 > "The bge driver provides support for various NICs based on the > Broadcom BCM570x, 571x, 572x, 575x, 576x, 578x, 5776x and 5778x > Gigabit Ethernet controller chips and the 590x and 5779x Fast Ethernet > controller chips." The Hardware notes do not contain definitive lists of all of the hardware that is supported. Support for NICs generally goes by what chipset is used in the NIC, but may be confounded by some manufacturers using unusual firmware. If a particular device is listed in a man page, that indicates that device has been tested and is known to work. If the source code makes reference to a specific device, then generally that device will work too: part working or in-progress code is not generally committed to the FreeBSD sources. If a devices' chipset is listed in a man page, but there's no reference to a specific device, then the device stands a good chance of working. If such a device doesn't work, then frequently it can be fixed quite easily by specifying appropriate device quirks. > I browsed the source and found many references to the BCM5719 and > BCM5720. However, I am unfamiliar enough with driver programming in C > to identify if a controller is fully supported. >=20 > Also, I attempted to identify whether the Intel i350 is supported. > It's not listed in the hardware notes or the igb(4) manpage so I > suspect it is not supported. When I view the igb source, the i350 is > referenced numerous times. Are these references simply code in > preparation for support of the i350? As I said above, this would be unusual. The development process in FreeBSD nowadays is to work on projects (eg. the addition of a driver for a new piece of hardware) off-line and only commit the code to the mainline sources once it is basically complete and ready for exposure to a wider audience for testing. Ultimately the best way to tell if any particular device is supported is to try it. There are plenty of USB-stick images of FreeBSD or PC-BSD readily downloadable so you can test boot up a candidate machine without committing to install the OS on it. While most manufacturers won't "support" FreeBSD per-se, if you can find the right sort of techy person to talk to, they'll often tip you off about whether FreeBSD is known to work or not. Hardware from big-name suppliers (Dell, HP and the like for complete systems; Intel, Broadcomm for NICs) is a priority for support although it may take a few months for the code to become generally available for the newest bits of kit. In fact, so long as the components you want to use have been on the market for around 6 months (very approximately) and they are aimed at use in server hardware rather than personal or casual use, the chances are good that they will just work in FreeBSD. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:45:44 -0000 Hi Rick (!), On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > If this question is better suited for a different list please let me > know. Simply stated, my question is 'What is the best source for > identifying supported hardware?'. The source! Actually, pciconf and "grep unknown /var/run/dmesg.boot" and using pcidatab= ase.com are all good starts (for me at least). When I'm integrating new/old hardware there isn't "one path" that I take. I= t really depends on what the situation is. (and so to give you the best advice, I read-on) > Having said that, allow me to pose > an example... >=20 > I've attempted to identify if various ethernet controllers are > supported by FreeBSD and the drivers. I used the hardware notes and > manpages for the respective ethernet drivers. The information between > the two sometimes seems inconsistent and/or inaccurate. For example, > the BCM5719 and BCM5720 are unsupported in FreeBSD at this time. That *was* true, but it's integrated quite well now with 8.3-R. We have a f= ew NEC workstations eval's fresh for testing that are using that hardware. > The > hardware notes at freebsd.org do not specify these controllers are > supported. Inspection of the bge(4) manpage implies that the > controllers are supported as seen in the description section where it > states: >=20 > "The bge driver provides support for various NICs based on the > Broadcom BCM570x, 571x, 572x, 575x, 576x, 578x, 5776x and 5778x > Gigabit Ethernet controller chips and the 590x and 5779x Fast Ethernet > controller chips." >=20 > I browsed the source and found many references to the BCM5719 and > BCM5720. However, I am unfamiliar enough with driver programming in C > to identify if a controller is fully supported. >=20 You really need to know the 4-digit hexadecimal Vendor ID and Model ID of t= he chipset to KNOW that a source module will probe/attach to a given hardwa= re by-spec. Probing/attaching is mostly done by registry arrays defining th= ese hex values as what to attach to during probe. Of course, booting the OS is the best way. If your HW device is not picked up by any module (built-in or otherwise), t= hen you'll get a line like the following in /var/run/dmesg.boot: pci0: (vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x3057) at 4.4 There's those hex values. If you take the device value and enter it into pc= idatabase.com you'll get: http://pcidatabase.com/search.php?device_search_str=3D0x3057&device_search= =3DSearch Which comes up as: "ACPI Power Management Controller" by "VIA Technologies, Inc" That's the unknown device. But, let's focus on BCM5720=85 If you were running, say, 8.0-R, even if you have the bge(4) driver loaded,= you would see this in /var/run/dmesg.boot: pciN: (vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x165f) at X.Y NOTE: Insert random numbers for "N", and "X.Y" How you know that 8.3-R's bge(4) driver supports the BCM5720 is because thi= s source file: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h?annotate= =3D1.83.2.35.2.1 NOTE: I specifically pointed you at CVS instead of SVN so that you can see = the version tagged for 8.3-R Specifically, this line: 2309: #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5720 0x165F > Also, I attempted to identify whether the Intel i350 is supported. > It's not listed in the hardware notes or the igb(4) manpage so I > suspect it is not supported. Boot up and see if it shows up as an unknown device. HINT: 0x8086 is often = Intel's Vendor ID It's easier to start that route and get the vendor/device hex so you can re= cursively grep src/sys/dev for those hex values (make sure to do it case in= sensitively). Investigating each match (especially if it ends in "_reg.h" o= r "_reg.c" or "hw.c" etc.) should show you (in code) which modules may (or = may not) support a given unknown hardware (either in your current branch or= another). If you're commonly dealing with new hardware on an often-enough basis, then= it's advisable to have a copy of HEAD checked out for keeping src/sys/dev = up to date for recursive grepping to find out if hardware is supported (in = the previously described manner). > When I view the igb source, the i350 is > referenced numerous times. Are these references simply code in > preparation for support of the i350? >=20 Maybe. If you have HW specs for the board you're trying to integrate, check= for the vendor/device id's and see if they match the references that you'r= e finding in code. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 17:06:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7101065673 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17458FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q58H58Xa009678 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:06:24 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.105] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:06:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <7BDA2790-A852-4BA1-B6D3-BCA3C465A341@fisglobal.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:06:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <1FCB8643-87F8-4B89-A5DC-1082B20F8682@fisglobal.com> References: <7BDA2790-A852-4BA1-B6D3-BCA3C465A341@fisglobal.com> To: Rick Miller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-08_08:2012-05-21, 2012-06-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do I determine support for $xx? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:06:25 -0000 On Jun 8, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > Hi Rick (!), >=20 > On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Rick Miller wrote: >=20 [snip] >>=20 >> I browsed the source and found many references to the BCM5719 and >> BCM5720. However, I am unfamiliar enough with driver programming in C >> to identify if a controller is fully supported. >>=20 >=20 [snip] > If you were running, say, 8.0-R, even if you have the bge(4) driver loade= d, you would see this in /var/run/dmesg.boot: >=20 > pciN: (vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x165f) at X.Y >=20 Correction, (specific to BCM5720) you'd see: pciN: (vendor=3D0x14e4, dev=3D0x165f) at X.Y Which, btw, you can confirm to yourself by executing the following within 8= .3-R (with attached bge(4)): $ pciconf -lv | awk '/^bge/{print $1,$4}' bge0@pciN:A:B:C: chip=3D0x165f14e4 Otherwise, you can see an unknown (non-working bge(4)) Broadcom BCM5720 har= dware by executing (on 8.0-R for example): $ grep unk /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep 0x14e4 pciN: (vendor=3D0x14e4, dev=3D0x165f) at X.Y NOTE: On a system where all hardware is probed/attached, "grep unk /var/run= /dmesg.boot" should not produce any results. In this case, pciconf is your = tool for probing vendor/device IDs. > NOTE: Insert random numbers for "N", and "X.Y" >=20 > How you know that 8.3-R's bge(4) driver supports the BCM5720 is because t= his source file: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h?annotat= e=3D1.83.2.35.2.1 >=20 > NOTE: I specifically pointed you at CVS instead of SVN so that you can se= e the version tagged for 8.3-R >=20 > Specifically, this line: >=20 > 2309: #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5720 0x165F [snip] --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 17:45:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13CB106566B; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DD48FC08; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so3491993obc.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:45:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oYTHJjYsvliAxaOZhA8DHXXZHbSlYGoad1e9bsBpN54=; b=dVr50yKmqtvOE+E+4g/QGlHeoknyhfgVKntPxsnH7rOccX1177mJ0rXG07LILCL9Kj 5MvSZg2fM88E2JCir5PI3hJDUm+6lEmR3MdY3bq65J7uIseaHY5It6608vTz4wL8TAc9 3x2rtuxPqIp19E94axeh/aFuJMwa45mk+fBC0Rdm+REtHrAErxzTUran5HSFL+KK2YSV Rvs4TZxEZsyTzX6/zn8jPnvlIpKtfwhFyNjhU3BG4Pe0G9wIshY2dAAhX4wS7ujHqI6/ FZGBo9os4Jh2YV2B+2pe+93r3A1QRXWcOvrD92FdfdxByYpmW/2wVZPjWxQ8TGN781HJ k33Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.1.202 with SMTP id 10mr8077965oeo.15.1339177545068; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1FCB8643-87F8-4B89-A5DC-1082B20F8682@fisglobal.com> References: <7BDA2790-A852-4BA1-B6D3-BCA3C465A341@fisglobal.com> <1FCB8643-87F8-4B89-A5DC-1082B20F8682@fisglobal.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:45:44 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7Zg1XHNeyKChq3ce9J1Pu9yEVRM Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do I determine support for $xx? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:45:46 -0000 Matthew/Devin, Thanks for the feedback. After I sent this email, I determined that the Intel i350 is indeed supported as a machine I built with FreeBSD was utilizing this NIC. I've tried the BCM5719 with stable/8 (5/21/2012) and it kernel panics when the interface is configured. I was told by a source contributor that the BCM5720 does not work (confirmed as recently as within the last week), but I've not tested it. I'm just passing this on as information...I don't expect any feedback with regards to this. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Devin Teske wro= te: > > On Jun 8, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > >> Hi Rick (!), >> >> On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Rick Miller wrote: >> > > [snip] > >>> >>> I browsed the source and found many references to the BCM5719 and >>> BCM5720. =A0However, I am unfamiliar enough with driver programming in = C >>> to identify if a controller is fully supported. >>> >> > > [snip] > >> If you were running, say, 8.0-R, even if you have the bge(4) driver load= ed, you would see this in /var/run/dmesg.boot: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 pciN: (vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x165f) at X.Y >> > > Correction, (specific to BCM5720) you'd see: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pciN: (vendor=3D0x14e4, dev=3D0x165f) at X.= Y > > Which, btw, you can confirm to yourself by executing the following within= 8.3-R (with attached bge(4)): > > $ pciconf -lv | awk '/^bge/{print $1,$4}' > bge0@pciN:A:B:C: chip=3D0x165f14e4 > > Otherwise, you can see an unknown (non-working bge(4)) Broadcom BCM5720 h= ardware by executing (on 8.0-R for example): > > $ grep unk /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep 0x14e4 > pciN: (vendor=3D0x14e4, dev=3D0x165f) at X.Y > > NOTE: On a system where all hardware is probed/attached, "grep unk /var/r= un/dmesg.boot" should not produce any results. In this case, pciconf is you= r tool for probing vendor/device IDs. > > >> NOTE: Insert random numbers for "N", and "X.Y" >> >> How you know that 8.3-R's bge(4) driver supports the BCM5720 is because = this source file: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h?annota= te=3D1.83.2.35.2.1 >> >> NOTE: I specifically pointed you at CVS instead of SVN so that you can s= ee the version tagged for 8.3-R >> >> Specifically, this line: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 2309: #define =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5720 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 0x165F > > [snip] > > -- > Devin > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confident= ial. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message = and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any = manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be awa= re that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and rev= iew by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 18:17:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D3E106564A; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457F98FC15; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF906.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.249.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q58IHAgk075427; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:17:10 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q58IHCd6020225; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:17:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q58IH6YJ025392; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:17:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206081817.q58IH6YJ025392@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Devin Teske From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:06:14 PDT." <1FCB8643-87F8-4B89-A5DC-1082B20F8682@fisglobal.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:17:06 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do I determine support for $xx? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:17:12 -0000 Hi Devin There were some great tips in your last post. Would be great if they couldfo in FreeBSD handbook somewhere. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. 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Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 18:53:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96882106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Received: from noel.decibel.org (99-153-64-76.uvs.austtx.sbcglobal.net [99.153.64.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF878FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from decibook.local (rrcs-67-79-71-90.sw.biz.rr.com [67.79.71.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by noel.decibel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5432E6D45D for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:48:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4FD248ED.702@nasby.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:48:13 -0500 From: Jim Nasby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvsup of RELENG_8_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:53:47 -0000 I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1: TreeList failed: Error in "/var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1": 13890: Could not parse status record. Delete it and try again. I realize that 8.1 isn't formally supported anymore, but should cvsup still work? I can't upgrade right now because of the conflict between GPT and gmirror what was introduced in 8.2. -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect jim@nasby.net 512.569.9461 (cell) http://jim.nasby.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 19:00:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE9C106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 19:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBBC8FC15 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 19:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q58J0JSu040050; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:00:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FD24B69.6050001@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:58:49 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter Hurry References: <20120607145901.3022770d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:00:28 -0000 2012-06-08 17:51, Walter Hurry skrev: > On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man > rc.conf. moused_port. > You also have moused_flags="Put your flags here" That does not help, not me anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 20:31:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B7B1065680 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669498FC12 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CBFA71CEC for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9839 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2012 20:30:57 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 9617, pid: 11337, t: 0.1830s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Jun 2012 20:30:57 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 10E1D33C20; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:30:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Bill Yuan References: Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:30:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Bill Yuan's message of "Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:22:34 +0800") Message-ID: <44y5nxy29s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:31:04 -0000 Bill Yuan writes: > i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic by > the mac and the ip at the same time, > > for example, i only allow my laptop can go throught the > firewalll when it's using IP > > for how to config the firewall rules? > > > I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt work > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC any Well, for one thing if I understand your intent, you have the MAC addresses in the wrong order. Unless your firewall is acting as a bridge, you also need to keep in mind that the MAC addresses are changed when passing through, so those rules will only work on one side (i.e., you'll need "in via" type rules). > but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone already > asked this question before. I don't understand. Was there a suggested approach or not? > but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone tell me > how ? thanks in advance. I can't guarantee this will work, and I don't have any way to test it, but my above comments would suggest something more like: > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC any out via $oif Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 21:09:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B080106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0038FC18 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id q58L9BDZ029190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:09:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:09:11 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Jerome Herman Message-ID: <20120608210911.GA11210@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20120427161316.GA60361@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20120428205201.GB65903@pcjas.obspm.fr> <4F9C75F9.9070907@dichotomia.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4F9C75F9.9070907@dichotomia.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 4FD269F7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4FD269F7.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance and mouse problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:09:21 -0000 Le 29/04/2012 ? 00:58:01+0200, Jerome Herman a écrit > >>> > >>> I've got two very strange problem > >>> > >>> I'm running 9-stable on a Dell Laptop E4200. > >>> > >>> Since this morning when I put a USB mouse (I've try three mouses to be > >>> sure) it's not working. The kernel and HAL see the mouse but Xorg don't > >>> seem do anything. > >>> > >>> The second point is the load of the system is alway more than 1 (~1.5-2) > >>> event I do nothing. I kill all services, daemon, software and the load > >>> never drop. > >>> > >>> I've stop : > >>> > >>> hald > >>> dbus > >>> powerd > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> and ps don't show any process eating some ressource. But the load is high > >>> (and the laptop is very hot). > >>> > >>> I make a csup of world and build new userland, and news kernel. And nothing > >>> change.... > >>> > >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > Well I don't see why this can be from a misconfiguration, the usb mouse > > work well before I update hald and world. > > > > But I read you link and I don't have those option in my configuration of > > xorg. > > > > Any other idea ? > > > > But thanks. > > > > For the problem about performance I submit this problem on stable mailing > > list. > > > > Regards > > > > JAS > > > > I was afraid this would happen. And I fear it is just the begining. > I assume you did not create any custom hald rule. Did you ? > > The first thing to do is to add > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" > > In your ServerLayout section of xorg.conf. > Then restart X and try to plug a mouse again. It may result in your mouse not working in X, but at least it should stop your computer from using all it's CPU trying to map the mouse. > > > If indeed the CPU load does not reach skyhigh levels when you plug a USB > mouse, we will be able to conclude that there is a DBus/hald problem. > After some time, and read new messages ont this mailing list, I find a solution. Deactivate hald deactivate dbus Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" put moused_enable="On" in /etc/rc.conf .... and.... reboot and everything work fine again. I don't known why by using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald stop /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus stop /etc/rc.d/moused start it's not working.... Thank all those help. Regards. -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@jabber.obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: ven 8 jui 2012 23:06:01 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 21:44:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C8B106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7418FC17 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AAF5081A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:44:15 -0700 Message-ID: <2903.1339191855@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:44:17 -0000 I've been lucky. Over about the past 20 years I've never had a hard disk go bad on me. (Knock on wood.) Of course I _do_ only buy the better quality ones (with the 5 year warranties), and I'm sure that has helped. Still, one never knows, and it is best to be prepared. Primarily however, I am mostly afraid of the fumble-finger scenario... you know... cd /; rm -fr * I read a little bit about UFS filesystem snashots, and they could probably help me deal effectively with fumble-finger incidents, but I still think that I would prefer to have a whole separate physical disk as my backup. (I mean what the hell? They are so cheap these days anyway.) I got a lot of disks here, so that part is not a problem. I just need to make sure that I'm gonna do this the Right Way[tm]. (I've already been making my own ham-fisted disk-to-disk backups in the past, but I'm sure that the way I have been doing that is sub-optimal, so I'm here seeking knowledge of how to do this the Right Way.) The bottom line is this... I know how to use cpio, and would like to use it to create a complete and _bootable_ backup of my main system disk. (My main system disk has only one BIOS partition, and that is sub-divided into the usual set of FreeBSD partitions, you know, /, /dev, /tmp, /usr, /var, /usr/compat/linux/proc, and /var/named/dev.) I'm not a complete dummy, so I can can easily figure out how to use cpio to make copies of all of the things in these filesystems to another physical drive, however, there are a couple of issues that I really don't know how to deal with properly, to wit: 1) How can one induce cpio to copy over the extra magical FreeBSD-specific file flags, such as the "immutable" flag, and so forth? (Naturally, I _do_ want to preserve all of these in my backup.) 2) Of necessity, the drive/partition designators of my backup disk and my ``real'' original system disk will be different. The original is a SATA drive, designator(s) /dev/ad4s1{a,e,f,d}, but due to the limitations of what I have on hand, my backup drive will be an older PATA drive, designator(s) /dev/ad2s1{a,e,f,d}. Obviously, cpio doesn't give a darn about such things, and so making my backup will not be a problem at all. The problem will, I suspect, arise when and if I actually have to try to use my backup disk to recover from a system failure. Then, the identity of the drive that will actually hold the root partition will be new and different from whatever it is set to currently on my ``real''/original drive... which will probably cause the disk not to boot... and also, of course, a lot of the entries in /etc/fstab will be wrong for the backup drive and will have to be diddled at some time... either at the time I make my backup, or later, when I go to actually _use_ the backup disk. I need to know he Right Way to deal with these (drive designator) problems also. I guess that I can figure out for myself how to diddle the /etc/fstab file on the backup drive in an appropriate way (and I can probably even cook up a trivial script to do this diddling for me routinely, each time I make a new disk-to-disk backup). So I guess the only think that is still making me nervous is my dim recollection... leftover from FreBSD releases of long long ago, e.g. the 6.x series... that there was also something hard-coded somewhere that told the kernel the identity of the root partition. If that hard coded thing still exists somewhere (i.e. in 8.3) then I'll need to make it a point, when making my bootbale backup disk, to find and diddle that thing too, in addition to diddling the /etc/fstab entries. So my question is simple: Do I need to diddle anything other than /etc/fstab in order to allow for the fact that all of the drive designators will be different for my backup disk, as compared to my original disk? And if so, where is/are the additional things that will need to be manually diddled? Any help/advice/insight regarding the above topics will be much appreciated. Regards, rfg P.S. Maybe I just overlooked it, but I really didn't see any option listed on the man page for cpio(1)... aka bsdcpio(1)... that would permit copying/ preservation of the various file flags discussed in the man pages for chflags(1) and chflags(2). Is it just me, or can cpio really not copy these? If so, it seems like one helluva big oversight. (Even if there is as issue where these additional file flags cannot be preserved, i.e. in cpio archive files, you know, because of backward archive format com- patability issues, at the very least there could be / should be a way to get cpio to copy these things over when the -p (pass) option is being used... no? Hummm... come to think of it, I'm also not seeing any way to induce cpio to copy over things like per-file ACLs and/or per-file file attributes either. Is it just me, or does _everyone_ who uses cpio for backups loose all of this good stuff when making backups? Color me preplexed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 22:08:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E58106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264388FC08 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2012 18:07:48 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BNL09719; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:07:46 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2012 18:07:46 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20434.30642.31558.246729@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:07:46 -0400 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <2903.1339191855@tristatelogic.com> References: <2903.1339191855@tristatelogic.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:08:02 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette writes: > I got a lot of disks here, so that part is not a problem. I just > need to make sure that I'm gonna do this the Right Way[tm]. > (I've already been making my own ham-fisted disk-to-disk backups > in the past, but I'm sure that the way I have been doing that is > sub-optimal, so I'm here seeking knowledge of how to do this the > Right Way.) > > The bottom line is this... I know how to use cpio, and would like > to use it to create a complete and _bootable_ backup of my main > system disk. (My main system disk has only one BIOS partition, > and that is sub-divided into the usual set of FreeBSD partitions, > you know, /, /dev, /tmp, /usr, /var, /usr/compat/linux/proc, and > /var/named/dev.) As far as I know, the only way guaranteed to preserve metadata is dump/restore. See previous (not necessarily recent) discussion (on this list, and possibly in the Handbook) for more information. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 22:10:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AF0106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2AF8FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd7O0-0003QE-Cr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:10:28 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:10:28 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:10:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <20120607145901.3022770d@scorpio> <4FD24B69.6050001@bananmonarki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:10:31 -0000 On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:58:49 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-06-08 17:51, Walter Hurry skrev: >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: >> Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man >> rc.conf. moused_port. >> >> > You also have moused_flags="Put your flags here" > > That does not help, not me anyway. Indeed you do. But I didn't need moused_flags (nor moused_type) - just moused_port. I was then able to restore /etc/rc.d/moused to its pristine state. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 22:17:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F552106566B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73BE8FC15 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so1125697wer.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YVDXMY3NZqd0Y1Vk9qsT0Kfieg0aB681HVcYwcHaFg4=; b=qCAxwL3437FyxqMTauyUbz/MWQnAu90YC6yYeZ9GaQgb4RbJhpY2rbUQgd1sQ/MOfC ds2fKWssY6IztNDfYLRKXnqVv/sin906qcPDwqZWAShjGXUXv61fE10XXcQOtYqjhiVC qO3Q2J9kM8BsZJZXw2o20bllSr6nvzmr2SX/JcUwCBTH7BautB9P6rauhM3Xxva5KGzt EykX7/e/5TaSXLwdauLXuvV49rQfdjyw0R0r8EcBP9VNTuzFHtZp2PzieXSoU1Y8ryZ0 8z8eMNmX2vKqGuL7AVHWnP0WWCNHozOn2sFYg44nPgvmqojeJsKrjBZEyP81gEDQSRRv DL2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.196.166 with SMTP id r38mr2080986wen.161.1339193830209; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.39 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206081611.q58GBW0J097808@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201206081611.q58GBW0J097808@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:17:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:17:17 -0000 >> Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is >> pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all >> boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? > Hoping a jumper Might be under an easily unscrewable panel seems unlikely. I did say "effectively". If people would actually read that chapter in the spec (minimally 27.5) they would find that they can: - Load a new PK without asking if in default SetupMode - If not in SetupMode, chainload a new PK provided it is signed by the current PK. - Clear the PK in a 'secure platform specific method'. There's nothing that says PK SetupMode has to be a jumper. Entering the equivalent of good old pre-boot BIOS setup mode would work so long as the OS can't get to it without the request being signed by the current PK. The point of Secure Boot is firmware checked protection against software access... not physical access protection. The spec speaks liberally of 'platform owner' being able to do whatever they want. More handwaving about EULA's and branding aside, that means US. I seriously think that people are blowing this topic way out of context, and seeing it everywhere is getting really old. People should instead be working on the facts and writing the various motherboard manufacturers to ask them what their expected PK update model will be, and to educate them if not. And to work at committing it to their OS. And yes, that includes Compal and Quanta and those sorts of OEM laptop/embedded makers. I'll send $100 to the FreeBSD foundation if those retail board makers I listed don't give the option to install/replace the PK. Nuff said. ps: I don't really care what MS does with their own branded products in the embedded/small space. Plenty of millionaires out there now who are in tune with opensource who could startup, buy the same ARM/ATOM/etc chips, the same support chips, load Android and sell it to the masses. Lot's of overseas ODM's out there for them to pick from too. Phones, tablets, notebooks, laptops... it's all there. FreeBSD on your phone in 10 years. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 23:58:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0C01065670 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A860E8FC12 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q58NwVaQ063949; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:58:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q58NwV6r063946; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:58:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:58:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20434.30642.31558.246729@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <2903.1339191855@tristatelogic.com> <20434.30642.31558.246729@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:58:33 -0000 On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > > Ronald F. Guilmette writes: > >> I got a lot of disks here, so that part is not a problem. I just >> need to make sure that I'm gonna do this the Right Way[tm]. >> (I've already been making my own ham-fisted disk-to-disk backups >> in the past, but I'm sure that the way I have been doing that is >> sub-optimal, so I'm here seeking knowledge of how to do this the >> Right Way.) >> >> The bottom line is this... I know how to use cpio, and would like >> to use it to create a complete and _bootable_ backup of my main >> system disk. (My main system disk has only one BIOS partition, >> and that is sub-divided into the usual set of FreeBSD partitions, >> you know, /, /dev, /tmp, /usr, /var, /usr/compat/linux/proc, and >> /var/named/dev.) > > As far as I know, the only way guaranteed to preserve metadata > is dump/restore. See previous (not necessarily recent) discussion > (on this list, and possibly in the Handbook) for more information. The rsync port has a flags option. I haven't tried it for a full backup. Even if it can copy all filesystem attributes like dump, there are still non-filesystem things needed for booting that neither can copy, like partition tables and boot blocks. There might be something for a bootable backup in ports, or it could be done with a script using gpart. Set up the disk with GPT labels to make it relocatable, use dump to copy everything the first time, fix up a few things like fstab and ifconfig_DEFAULT in the same script. Afterwards, rsync may be enough for fast updates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 00:07:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDB210657A5 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BEF58FC08 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ::ffff:69.12.202.165 ([69.12.202.165]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:06:53 -0700 Message-ID: <4FD2939C.8080602@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:06:52 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120507 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1841053140.95816.1339040011608.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com> <4FD12B9C.3070107@holgerdanske.com> <68FA56E48051EF71EC510826@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <68FA56E48051EF71EC510826@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD for Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:07:02 -0000 On 06/07/2012 06:40 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: On 06/08/2012 01:07 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: Thanks for the replies. :-) David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 00:25:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67E31065677 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD2E8FC16 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so1173422wer.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gxdcGnSxHfLmipqk60h9iCNoVJBx9RvYMQfJ/hppYL0=; b=hKumIhNHrT930yJmT5glrG5z3FIkKrp6S2OV1xT4DrZpCl3UnxvHgWxisX3wEI5OOc T7KAcrB+bJkOZh1QD4xPAEX1GTlN/g7Ws4/xQSfN9qXNGalpcTDqAvWNiLDKPbtduMJM 1CyjXcUtCqLHgvrnyDMJ35xtuO+YU4Aoj15hza2biiHPTk8OYI6GeS15RX+pMUr02Wme FUMokOx1ijQRnpGDyrcxLTOFzRW0Eq+kSCZPYRAbejxFBTKfrEJ0Xt4ki+8kJNaZ6F2R tieB2aDMC60HPXoPSJ7eBNKCsu9NV3511rkWZDtLxx/MXxOekBPjQwViGzTa2gYNadbJ wNPA== Received: by 10.180.88.194 with SMTP id bi2mr4311648wib.20.1339201512326; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexley.local (b0fbed95.bb.sky.com. [176.251.237.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fm1sm4813769wib.10.2012.06.08.17.25.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:25:09 +0100 From: David Collins To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4fd297e5.bV/9FWCnz2Xwy7zn%davidcollins001@gmail.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: XBMC home theater PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:25:14 -0000 Hi, I've recently got a Dell Optiplex 760 that I'm using as a home theatre PC set up with FreeBSD and XBMC. It's mostly working very well but there are just a couple of niggles I'd like to work out to see it working perfectly. 1. Suspend and resume is working well if the usb modules are kld(un/)loaded before and after suspend. I've just been gifted a radeon hd RV610 graphics card which seems quite nice. I'd like to get the card to work with suspend, but the card doesn't like resume If I do a kldunload/kldload on the radeonhd module or don't bother I see the following errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > (EE) RADEONHD(0): RHDCSStop: Command Submission backend is not active! > rhd_crtc.c:586: DxModeRestore: Assertion '!RHD_CHECKDEBUGFLAG(rhdPtr, VGA_SETUP)' failed. > > FatalError re-entered, aborting > Server aborting or > Segmentation fault: 11 at address 0x4 > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault: 11). Server aborting and in both cases, a load of: > (WW) RADEONHD(0): DRMCPIdle: DRM CP IDLE returned BUSY Also there are loads of the following in /var/log/messages: > Jun 8 21:13:02 xbmc kernel: info: [drm] wait idle failed status : 0xA0003030 0x00000003 Googling for these error messages returns threads dated around 2009. I would have thought that if this was an issue then it would have been solved, although they weren't related to suspend/resume. Has anyone else seen this error or know of a fix for it? Currency I just restart the X server on resume. 2. If the machine is powerd down I am able to WOL to boot the computer, but if I put the computer into suspend I am not able to. The nic light is still on but doesn't wake the computer. I'm wondering if this is the OS not the card in the same way as during a shutdown. Does anyone know of a solution to this or a work around? 3. Finally, I think this may be a bit of a shot in the dark, but is it possible to have a USB event wake the computer? I imagine that the hardware determines if this is possible (like WOL) and if not all the USB code has been unloaded from the kernel anyway. I'd still be interested to hear thoughts though. Regards, David Collins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 00:31:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2506E106566B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F1A8FC17 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so894989wib.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:31:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dc42hG4cYYrvRJfJAhDk9g6bQjJTj9tRqkuh5dO7JtE=; b=M0TUDwveg/FW63mlemGM1M5lhsN4t5EtWC93ls9+iEUBaTKJrYu09lwDY3FiDLIN6d mtNGkavlbs2+U/ctpKzvmNklWkX+CUcTVKzI4Pdvur2XFRTadkng4VG7RCiQF7o+J2Ie 4CRxaLhvMwmUOCIbqZu8zQs+GuOXzYFtOPWqXlfa/fJuPZu6qrBSrQPuzssyDrz8jfxE VEf1mIQdC7PfvFqhf9GFrpiydI6Ow9ePWlze0CPvlsPT9IVrzNACiTaJWaZXhTBb1zGv 6i/Vhri37NooSG1vs9pxOJrQY4oyOB5+XrBreIMlPMQs7kmoGV+/NdZp+KMAUE4t5e9u qf2A== Received: by 10.180.109.197 with SMTP id hu5mr4345202wib.8.1339201882524; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexley.local (b0fbed95.bb.sky.com. [176.251.237.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fo7sm4840001wib.9.2012.06.08.17.31.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:31:22 +0100 From: David Collins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4fd2995a.m2TZej+KMYK1/gkZ%davidcollins001@gmail.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: XBMC home theater PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:31:24 -0000 Hi, I've recently got a Dell Optiplex 760 that I'm using as a home theatre PC set up with FreeBSD (9.0-STABLE) and XBMC. It's mostly working very well but there are just a couple of niggles I'd like to work out to see it working perfectly. 1. Suspend and resume is working well if the usb modules are kld(un/)loaded before and after suspend. I've just been gifted a radeon hd RV610 graphics card which seems quite nice. I'd like to get the card to work with suspend, but the card doesn't like resume If I do a kldunload/kldload on the radeonhd module or don't bother I see the following errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > (EE) RADEONHD(0): RHDCSStop: Command Submission backend is not active! > rhd_crtc.c:586: DxModeRestore: Assertion '!RHD_CHECKDEBUGFLAG(rhdPtr, VGA_SETUP)' failed. > > FatalError re-entered, aborting > Server aborting or > Segmentation fault: 11 at address 0x4 > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault: 11). Server aborting and in both cases, a load of: > (WW) RADEONHD(0): DRMCPIdle: DRM CP IDLE returned BUSY Also there are loads of the following in /var/log/messages: > Jun 8 21:13:02 xbmc kernel: info: [drm] wait idle failed status : 0xA0003030 0x00000003 Googling for these error messages returns threads dated around 2009. I would have thought that if this was an issue then it would have been solved, although they weren't related to suspend/resume. Has anyone else seen this error or know of a fix for it? Currency I just restart the X server on resume. 2. If the machine is powerd down I am able to WOL to boot the computer, but if I put the computer into suspend I am not able to. The nic light is still on but doesn't wake the computer. I'm wondering if this is the OS not the card in the same way as during a shutdown. Does anyone know of a solution to this or a work around? 3. Finally, I think this may be a bit of a shot in the dark, but is it possible to have a USB event wake the computer? I imagine that the hardware determines if this is possible (like WOL) and if not all the USB code has been unloaded from the kernel anyway. I'd still be interested to hear thoughts though. Regards, David Collins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 01:12:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2A71065675 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBB58FC0C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4062500obc.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:12:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pQLM918Oqax9eeBHb7it/jeKVbUFkNaAYLxkfxM7g6g=; b=SbEo/38mmigXLlZP/Sp6nBizkgSmLYPJK8aOZls0DSXIDOtVYXeNTYZbp7qme5K/1R yx0Hm5JWEeBTQFxZntDIZFvdbtRiZ3uawANdcgq9DGLlH/g1WVdyY1aq2W6AAtN9O2jd evdVfDKxq5gqkp89kE7TohT0cKRvpmNwUmEu7OJe8qfQED+lBxgI5v4gabtt40y7m+/y wQ4m9FCu5SKeSUMlSYgHDnb4CrPWFJQypx5O887UGVr9+N09Z/+pjyGG9cpulVZGiKEx 4VpAGRY8EDY5UblmIDAVVRIGKtrNC5pLLz67E0LjJmoZYBcIlYTvcaPZIgFjyWg6NH8/ OzFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.155.2 with SMTP id vs2mr9034921obb.47.1339204325605; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:12:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2903.1339191855@tristatelogic.com> <20434.30642.31558.246729@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:12:06 -0000 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > > >> Ronald F. Guilmette writes: >> >> I got a lot of disks here, so that part is not a problem. I just >>> need to make sure that I'm gonna do this the Right Way[tm]. >>> (I've already been making my own ham-fisted disk-to-disk backups >>> in the past, but I'm sure that the way I have been doing that is >>> sub-optimal, so I'm here seeking knowledge of how to do this the >>> Right Way.) >>> >>> The bottom line is this... I know how to use cpio, and would like >>> to use it to create a complete and _bootable_ backup of my main >>> system disk. (My main system disk has only one BIOS partition, >>> and that is sub-divided into the usual set of FreeBSD partitions, >>> you know, /, /dev, /tmp, /usr, /var, /usr/compat/linux/proc, and >>> /var/named/dev.) >>> >> >> As far as I know, the only way guaranteed to preserve metadata >> is dump/restore. See previous (not necessarily recent) discussion >> (on this list, and possibly in the Handbook) for more information. >> > > The rsync port has a flags option. I haven't tried it for a full backup. > Even if it can copy all filesystem attributes like dump, there are still > non-filesystem things needed for booting that neither can copy, like > partition tables and boot blocks. There might be something for a bootable > backup in ports, or it could be done with a script using gpart. Set up the > disk with GPT labels to make it relocatable, use dump to copy everything > the first time, fix up a few things like fstab and ifconfig_DEFAULT in the > same script. > > Afterwards, rsync may be enough for fast updates. > I am applying the following technique in Linux ( because I am not using FreeBSD ) : On the same computer : (1) I am disconnecting power cable of the existing HDD . (2) I am connecting a new disk ( by attaching Channel Zero SATA Cable to it ) . (3) I am installing a new operating system on HDD (4) I am installing mc ( Midnight Commander ) . (5) After obtaining a working new HDD , I am connecting the power cable of the previous disk . (6) I am booting the computer . The new operating system is "seeing" previous HDD . (7) I am mounting previous HDD . (8) By using mc , I am copying required files/directories into new HDD . Mostly I am using KDE4 . Dolphin in KDE4 has a memory leak which is causing disaster for very large list of files because for each file , it is consuming irrecoverable memory loss from 600 bytes to 1000 bytes during copying . (9) I am keeping previous HDD as bootable by disconnecting its power cable because it is not necessary to keep it powered . You can do the following : (1) Install your operating system on back-up HDD . (2) By using a script , copy required files /directories onto back-up HDD . With this technique , you can maintain a revolving back-up HDD units : Create back-up HDD 1 . Create back-up HDD 2 . . . . Create back-up HDD n . When n-th HDD is created , and a new back-up is required switch to HDD 1 . Using rsync you may update only required files / directories . Full copy is not required to update subsequent HDD units because it is very likely that many files are the same . In that form , EACH back-up HDD is bootable when it is required . You may consider HAST for a single HDD . You may use external USB HDD by selecting a robust model . Disconnecting power cable of existing HDD during a new operating system install on another HDD is preventing an accidental loss of data because naming the recognized HDD units is NOT standard and very unreliable . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 01:49:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71A9106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F96B8FC15 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D826E6505; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 02:49:46 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=Y0x6dDY7b/MV B0CJ1Opz3nB9Qh0=; b=BEtYdY1wXJ2Gmzad8U5gaiDf54UtJPwcl7rxKXiLC6II +PY7ju4IDXgxXO5+Qix+qg0hmN10ApVdNIuvovdBWSsmT2bqK+JQARbuK3cXBSb6 /hxezGUZ1BLmO2+zVFGB16EyTiReTp+abw2o7U1nfUiTPSYIE0QxGusSRIw5TNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=F4iH6s u6Hwx0ehW9z9tjomZUPyVW5PYp0wJeHYeOk7+1Q5HRZftb67YmFQ6vojXXRM4lYx 725BeNZk2SHpcPdumzj9i8WnJRatLt7CoPlC6zIvyyqBN6fjCHf7cXeTgmfDRSJh 4LL8lvGjJYL2Gene7BtH0nSMdC/E9PoTnkXqw= Received: from [192.168.2.12] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0ADF4E64E4; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 02:49:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FD2AB8B.80605@cran.org.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 02:48:59 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4FD12CFF.6020205@cran.org.uk> <4FD194BA.3060208@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FD194BA.3060208@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuration problem with IPv6 router ("cannot forward src") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:49:02 -0000 On 08/06/2012 06:59, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Probably. The good news is that once you've got it running the IPv6 > support in FreeBSD is rock solid and works like a charm. It turns out that PF was being too helpful and trying to NAT for both IPv4 and IPv6 - adding 'inet' to the "nat on $ext_if..." line fixed it. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 04:16:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CE4106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65928FC0C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C70A27834; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:16:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q594G0Qs004179; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:16:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:16:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Message-Id: <20120609061600.55d6d972.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD2CBD9.8080001@bananmonarki.se> References: <201205181149.q4IBndvU028665@hera.homer.att.com> <4FB64022.6010206@bananmonarki.se> <4FBB4B8C.3000806@bananmonarki.se> <20120522104441.f05a2f88.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD2CBD9.8080001@bananmonarki.se> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse stopped working in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:16:09 -0000 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:06:49 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > 2012-05-22 10:44, Polytropon skrev: > > On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:17:16 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> There is a second way of doing this stunt. > >> > >> Start X > >> When X is up and running press CTRL+ALT+F3 or any F* frpm F3 up to F8 > >> then you get to the console > >> Su to root in the console and type in > >> > >> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart&& /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart > >> > >> Then press ALT+F9 to get back to X > > > > So if that is the _solution_ > > It is not near any solution. > > I do not think this issue have anything to do with hal or dbus. I didn't claim it was a solution, I just wanted to make the therapy "more elegant"; see the difference between therapy (treating symptoms) and the actual cure of a disease (removing the cause). As I'm only running old-fashioned stuff here, I can't be more specific regarding the newest inventions of why X stopped acting as expected. In the past, simply removing HAL and DBUS altogether and using a xorg.conf file to make the required settings has worked at least for me. My idea of automating the manual step of restarting HAL and DBUS (which _seems_ to have treated the symptoms of a non-working mouse) was to put that into the X initialisation file: "sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart". Of couse that doesn't even remotely touch a possible problem caused elsewhere. And does it look totally stupid? Sure it does. It looks so wrong, but sometimes the wrongest thing "just works" (TM). :-) > My machine at the office running the same hal and X as the one at home > does not have this kind of problems. That might be a good indicator that there actually is something different in those machines, and this difference causes the problem. Maybe it's something simple, and really not related to HAL. As I said, I'm not sure, as I'm not using it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 04:23:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600211065670 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325D18FC12 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3552166pbb.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:23:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NnO1+nu9Mve9Lhi6yNPszFCeNI+eA8tgdzWnzpfVZyE=; b=ma5GrJnbKx0aiJ6kN9O9wvd4lnpNMXipEn1cPYfxb/6E2V4zhXN7vmpHui68R/6N3c gGanisQcGPZWWun3DuYWivQxD5HOLwrfOOPcIjJh1GaimrwWG0ZmE/9jS3ndAo5UlwaO 4Opl9fNaIbVaU05mJDT8s/y1tUhMj7BuKcMNf7WHfdPxp+A7vIC1tIs+Dkmgh5edO4Dy 3PpfQtRorfKmsYXYSg8/sBSDEgNwwRYssniR8ISVXVk8MVWbymeUSngeAGKyFUnss6bt YgyTKEfJ6Hhtc3hBaVIg0z3XgwH6zX80zH1vO+hZh95PrHS8c9hrlnz6oKMmetrY2GI/ dF5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.236.129 with SMTP id uu1mr2199682pbc.77.1339215836733; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.28.231 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:23:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44y5nxy29s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <44y5nxy29s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 12:23:56 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:23:57 -0000 rule like below #allow the traffic which source mac is belong to the machine ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any #allow the ...... destination mac is that machine ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any ipfw add 1 deny all from any to any it is not working , all the traffic will be block by the deny !!! how come ? On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > Bill Yuan writes: > > > i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic by > > the mac and the ip at the same time, > > > > for example, i only allow my laptop can go throught the > > firewalll when it's using IP > > > > for how to config the firewall rules? > > > > > > I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt work > > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any > > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC any 1> > > Well, for one thing if I understand your intent, you have the MAC > addresses in the wrong order. Unless your firewall is acting as a > bridge, you also need to keep in mind that the MAC addresses are changed > when passing through, so those rules will only work on one side (i.e., > you'll need "in via" type rules). > > > but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone already > > asked this question before. > > I don't understand. Was there a suggested approach or not? > > > but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone tell > me > > how ? thanks in advance. > > I can't guarantee this will work, and I don't have any way to test it, > but my above comments would suggest something more like: > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any in via $iif > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC > any out via $oif > > Good luck. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 06:01:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC7E106566C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FD38FC16 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5961Ivo065976; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:01:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5961IDN065973; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:01:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:01:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Albert Shih In-Reply-To: <20120608210911.GA11210@pcjas.obspm.fr> Message-ID: References: <20120427161316.GA60361@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20120428205201.GB65903@pcjas.obspm.fr> <4F9C75F9.9070907@dichotomia.fr> <20120608210911.GA11210@pcjas.obspm.fr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Jerome Herman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance and mouse problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:01:23 -0000 On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Albert Shih wrote: > After some time, and read new messages ont this mailing list, I find a > solution. > > Deactivate hald > deactivate dbus > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" > put moused_enable="On" in /etc/rc.conf > .... > and.... > > reboot > > and everything work fine again. > > I don't known why by using > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald stop > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus stop > /etc/rc.d/moused start > > it's not working.... It should not be a dbus problem, and some things can benefit from dbus. Try it and see if the problem comes back. FWIW, I thought I suggested this a while back. It is what I run: hal not installed, but moused enabled. When hal is not installed, turning AutoAddDevices off should also not be needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 06:06:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE80106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86DA8FC0C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5966d4G021120 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:06:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:39 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: prune ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:06:47 -0000 Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 06:11:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5B4106566B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0128FC17 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4439766obc.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=fJkzbJ9dLPoSfB+XTRfMP9HDf/mJb+BwgnyzgpG3Zto=; b=ok2yuyIZgpNjLoxiPgcQJbx+1KMXeqeaspBz2yP1gyrv/hSvWGKlLRRmQGAy5PLvlv ASE/xabGO39buHhPPFER9pBFyOhPIsUWQWw/BdxCDo2jyGY7I3bDM1cTK5yMH1XYBO6B nVYO4V6AyuWPqihKY8/xyr8mM5WumU3qEJPrs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fJkzbJ9dLPoSfB+XTRfMP9HDf/mJb+BwgnyzgpG3Zto=; b=kolfNhH//qSwcMkUwrzEJUFY2Wxlr7iwvgZQtzl0LPu2o+EEywzUD6EUzv2rZcYJd0 O6NIBTO97azTsOscHSm86mD0NzB3MGAbCbYFg2WoXhg6+1pS+zi8s42u8ua+PFCZ0kmC aAxo7txn33IG63QPguHHmyYxAYzjNtvM2NFpOJxcs+Yg/ytxPISEntf4giY2TW/mPr/w CzdPtzOA11Gg3w7guxpscoIGFDKp1PmsVw8NOOXwb0uEezAfZp/I49jeWrTyW4e6CKCg KwIjp7JloYAPtZ9gj1V9u9N06GHMkYMIkaTRagrBUthiiBNDk3heZ6QqvXQvdmFT4Qbb NE9A== Received: by 10.60.14.68 with SMTP id n4mr9648519oec.24.1339222281897; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:11:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:10:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:10:51 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmeeATUYFr3OIQIG6Qcjo4CMOLX4G/iO0bEnHvyeAGqBPy37xEcxluwUoOr364blrElEzoy Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: prune ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:11:22 -0000 On 8 June 2012 23:06, Gary Aitken wrote: > Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? yes, but don't do it. the ports tree needs to be complete to be guaranteed to function. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 06:21:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4851065743 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30268FC0A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEE72789A; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:21:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q596LYnl004551; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:21:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:21:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120609082134.42a36d30.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: prune ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:21:37 -0000 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:39 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? How do you want to understand by "parts" and "not used"? The easiest way to "not use" some part of the ports tree is to remove that part. You can do that by manually deleting the port(s) and even omitting them when updating your ports tree. If you use csup, you can make /etc/sup/ports.sup like this: Don't use ports-all, but only list the categories you want to have updated. This works category-wise. You'll find examples in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile which you can use as a template for your own configuration file. An example of /etc/sup/ports.sup could look like this: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-base ports-accessibility #ports-arabic ports-archivers [ ... list shortened ... ] ports-x11-servers ports-x11-themes ports-x11-toolkits ports-x11-wm Only the listed ports categories will be updated. Then you can add this to /etc/make.conf: SUP= /usr/bin/csup <--- SUP_UPDATE= /usr/bin/csup <--- SUPFLAGS= -L 2 <--- SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup <--- DOCSUPFILE= /etc/sup/doc.sup DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1 de_DE.ISO8859-1 The important lines are marked with a <---. Now you can do this: # cd /usr/ports # make update and you'll get the latest ports tree _excluding_ what you have already removed. You can also use /usr/ports/.cvsignore to specify the directories csup should ignore; defaults are "distfiles" and "packages". You can list "offending" ports here. This approach does _not_ work well when using portsnap. From the portsnap.conf manpage: "Note that operating with an incomplete ports tree is not supported and may cause unexpected results." -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 06:55:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35841065672 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993E08FC0C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 06:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4494180obc.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:55:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=8QEcDPq0VUukrPzoeAgoSc3z4S5Ngs1OKsbo3jJbcNQ=; b=UUn6ntIAwzFSptiFbKuJrw++/wIlcLPUXdzlK0Jw50ztoiGd/KDQJVE3Z3Ln21fb8a 5e4RRtuU5OWYqYbMK0g6Ck+9gQa++QEWOpPV+9r/X5vfGoD0D0atodY38/WBI55Oh6OF 9D920KLKjoqCcKkOZuee0axs5PDRTsBAGpy3A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=8QEcDPq0VUukrPzoeAgoSc3z4S5Ngs1OKsbo3jJbcNQ=; b=lMTPU236oj3gJc5gYiHe8Jgci+/Ojaz/Ybf9gLXK5MbwE7QkbWPHQsYpOorQesvj3B NMb+OQD6D8eCMz37RV2vS3nMXyneNIjJE8QwxAhwYhJgJqUyTroiOvEFuY2FzsGrgJ7t UVhabfp/QnR/K203Qav7Z7QmI+hTPSA8n59PFohUSerK29NpbSlYydj90sCxTwWdT8Sm JaPLyXAYFnTjrM1YaUoIuzMbk3/IKJVQeqFu+nCQm8XVTwt1PKtOF/QURiSVc6DSHrkQ CUdAIW7nxjdGaH54U2G1Vd1TFV+UAodaaBoYwfQLkkV9yuiKq5brayvk1Ko0uX7SHOhi YSvQ== Received: by 10.182.187.42 with SMTP id fp10mr9839706obc.30.1339224905969; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:55:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:54:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120609082134.42a36d30.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> <20120609082134.42a36d30.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:54:35 -0700 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmMVbeFwtdIN/OZpTHrslZeHmoccADSA7JdGtSuWP0Wx5T59aCcU1DAXFW5GPgfiVQWw0dU Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: prune ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:55:07 -0000 On 8 June 2012 23:21, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:39 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? > This approach does _not_ work well when using portsnap. From > the portsnap.conf manpage: "Note that operating with an incomplete > ports tree is not supported and may cause unexpected results." Note that the issue of incomplete ports trees has nothing to do with portsnap - it is unsupported no matter how you obtain ports. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 09:12:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C4A106566B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: from fep13.mx.upcmail.net (fep13.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6638FC0C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge01.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.236]) by viefep13-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.04 201-2260-151-105-20111014) with ESMTP id <20120609091250.GBNP3333.viefep13-int.chello.at@edge01.upcmail.net>; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:12:50 +0200 Received: from matrix020.matrix.net ([84.114.122.224]) by edge01.upcmail.net with edge id L9Cq1j00L4qbkk4019CqCz; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:12:50 +0200 X-SourceIP: 84.114.122.224 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:12:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <44y5nxy29s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: X-Face: 9K^F42eGrHAbAe?%/Jn(.sAeg9d{Ur6`x<[+LZ46Plx#sTFr]9_>|#(?~v6X,2~BeL#:7kxV8#s; UP |>X.=B,VvQ"}!^Zb}AGD:Um.+;P=%U6W Cc: Bill Yuan Subject: Re: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 09:12:52 -0000 hi Bill, afaik, in your case the packets checked twice against the ipfw-rules - once for the layer2-filtering part and 2nd time for the ip-filtering part. 1st enable filtering on ethernet demux/eth. output frame: # sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 then start your fw-script: # -- sniplet from fw-script -- # iif="em0" ip_client="192.168.123.45" ether_client="88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd" ether_broadcast="ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff" ${fwcmd} add 10 pass MAC ${ether_broadcast} ${ether_client} via ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 20 pass MAC any ${ether_client} via ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 21 pass MAC ${ether_client} any via ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 30 pass ip from ${ip_client} to any via ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 31 pass ip from any to ${ip_client} via ${iif} # -- sniplet from fw-script -- # this results in: # ipfw show 00010 1 28 allow ip from any to any MAC ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff \ 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0 00020 74 9564 allow ip from any to any MAC any 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0 00021 87 85336 allow ip from any to any MAC 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd any via em0 00030 74 9564 allow ip from 192.168.123.45 to any via em0 00031 86 85290 allow ip from any to 192.168.123.45 via em0 65535 487 35078 deny ip from any to any Most of this logic is described in the section "PACKET FLOW" section in man ipfw. "Note that as packets flow through the stack, headers can be stripped or added to it, and so they may or may not be available for inspection. E.g., incoming packets will include the MAC header when ipfw is invoked from ether_demux(), but the same packets will have the MAC header stripped off when ipfw is invoked from ip_input() or ip6_input()." Cheers ch On Saturday 09 June 2012, Bill Yuan wrote: > rule like below > > #allow the traffic which source mac is belong to the machine > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any > #allow the ...... destination mac is that machine > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any > ipfw add 1 deny all from any to any > > > it is not working , all the traffic will be block by the deny !!! how come > ? > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Lowell Gilbert < > > freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > > Bill Yuan writes: > > > i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic > > > by the mac and the ip at the same time, > > > > > > for example, i only allow my laptop can go throught the > > > firewalll when it's using IP > > > > > > for how to config the firewall rules? > > > > > > > > > I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt > > > work > > > > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC > > > any ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC any > > Address > > > > 1> > > > > Well, for one thing if I understand your intent, you have the MAC > > addresses in the wrong order. Unless your firewall is acting as a > > bridge, you also need to keep in mind that the MAC addresses are changed > > when passing through, so those rules will only work on one side (i.e., > > you'll need "in via" type rules). > > > > > but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone > > > already asked this question before. > > > > I don't understand. Was there a suggested approach or not? > > > > > but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone tell > > > > me > > > > > how ? thanks in advance. > > > > I can't guarantee this will work, and I don't have any way to test it, > > > > but my above comments would suggest something more like: > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any > > > in via $iif > > > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC > > > > any out via $oif > > > > Good luck. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 11:45:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF71106566C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guzanovsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3119B8FC17 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so1126229wib.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:45:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sL3UMteu5YzvOpcyIuh49G9nphCtzt6JE2AXJuTo6LU=; b=jGH4xiAcFjwRSbd5ivoRy6Lyjjpvu7ykjKshZnaevrixUx43GnkCJ49rmNRmNued+B 7ebbU0YoOmavLQHaFuRpfueK7yM6aeY41IqbnH1x/JNOfqHsIKcMk6He9x8u/F6lD0o/ rrqaIBvKgWG4b0IaMiNubktXGxg010uFXoimGEaYyMLX7t/p/ipjDW2rdqKurL14pqoA YoFOx4RPadJ8ZpfGgigcPdu6RB6Pn23cGRR/7Pp4gjJBSS0v6pgBRuuQdrY9UvNhxz/g JxsvcL8UXs1q5+Ky0LYvxtmpVkOjq+9bhc8ZmFmcOhRsFwXOu/K3PQsg90b07GK97+ct t8UA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.226.101 with SMTP id a79mr2906373weq.151.1339242354812; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.14.103 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:45:54 +0400 Message-ID: From: Denis Guzanov To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:45:58 -0000 Dear FreeBSD Team, Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the best system for us, small IT staff. Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following .iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso And when I tried to install it I have nothing.... I did it many times, but have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed successfully. Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? Thanks and Best regards, Denis. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 11:55:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D491106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35FF8FC15 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4909022obc.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SHs3Y5ce1uWv+HqaOKhkXbh4MAGlkers4RVPrnSXj+I=; b=zbnhbh3TA1TOTpe0ilzOOvCC4wdQfm9hzyQ6K0Is6w0ACRrungxtOYtNRqeIdsFs5f sXX7fsT+oobxJ/GlFNUEGP3jr0mSTr7xmF90UG12PVwOJVdVq7XX13rvyEDquaMPYn1q hstmBOqfJz5temH804gA14MoG5TDQ38G/jcYNE2b5pf3P/Qyvg4lxJlL9n2ksye34v2D NAx4ol0D4kyX3aKVW/3lOVgyNDxTkMDOMc/r5vMzZTaDjd39p3BYO2kihtC7IUQq9b5X ivd/P++Zh9GmIJ/OibwAOx4Np2KovKADcXKgVklIR/cEtHeU0YiYSY6mHL+Zo3HqDnNm kdBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.70 with SMTP id l6mr10653351oee.38.1339242957434; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 04:55:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Denis Guzanov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:55:58 -0000 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Denis Guzanov wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Team, > > Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the > best system for us, small IT staff. > > Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. > > I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following > .iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso > > And when I tried to install it I have nothing.... I did it many times, but > have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed > successfully. > > Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 > systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? > > > Thanks and Best regards, > Denis. > >From your question , it is not possible to understand which 8.3 version is used . It is very unlikely that 9.0 fails completely but 8.3 succeeds completely . ia64 is for Itanium 64 processor , amd64 is Intel and AMD 64-bit capable desktop or notebook processors . They are different processors , and one can not execute code for the other . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 13:22:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1235B1065672 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47218FC08 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q59DMox8022567 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 07:22:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:22:52 -0000 I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? less? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 15:26:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17524106566B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9708FC0A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so1815122vcb.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 08:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ei4ZBXr9HTRMSGV+AFuUlCBqCWC5n1DUrqPzesdXwG4=; b=xx1pPexfembXVtOPt9Sw8LWcXstKONfHmrFQJvvgChFqMxH2RkGywbpubjXNUDPaCz GZK+3+4fu76MfXuvbmWJgMv21uhdjc+BKLnyJ5K0cc/byU6NeFgvH/PKsfL/npS4IIW0 HAlVcDA9zrJL9yMF5jyU5hsghixorLzZY8WepNPGY+K/n8kVKy8rTnFuO2xvGSeQb1lO i2U7wWotgW4qofXIQbJZpOFoK8VWRB34FnGYva5gq15in2n55Fb6A2AiJPwWqK6CYF/B WAqRJOdUhnsOa81AmyuFtVdPRSJVXcu7mauM0euOeHMPAf0Ruo2uZTdyMV4GnsIbYKvO mGAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.93.133 with SMTP id cu5mr7821811vdb.125.1339255602049; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 08:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:26:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206091112.50161.4711@chello.at> References: <44y5nxy29s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <201206091112.50161.4711@chello.at> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:26:41 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:26:43 -0000 Thanks very much, According to your description , I changed my firewall settings , ( Because I already tried add the "via em0" or "via em1", it's not working, so I remove it , my FreeBSD is WAN is em0 ,LAN is em1 ) and made it like this below and I still cannot download things through it , and i found the result Seems some place still not working properly , the traffic has been block by some reason! On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> wrote: > hi Bill, > afaik, in your case the packets checked twice against the ipfw-rules - once > for the layer2-filtering part and 2nd time for the ip-filtering part. > > 1st enable filtering on ethernet demux/eth. output frame: > # sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 > > then start your fw-script: > > # -- sniplet from fw-script -- # > iif="em0" > ip_client="192.168.123.45" > ether_client="88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd" > ether_broadcast="ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff" > > ${fwcmd} add 10 pass MAC ${ether_broadcast} ${ether_client} via ${iif} > ${fwcmd} add 20 pass MAC any ${ether_client} via ${iif} > ${fwcmd} add 21 pass MAC ${ether_client} any via ${iif} > ${fwcmd} add 30 pass ip from ${ip_client} to any via ${iif} > ${fwcmd} add 31 pass ip from any to ${ip_client} via ${iif} > # -- sniplet from fw-script -- # > > this results in: > > # ipfw show > 00010 1 28 allow ip from any to any MAC ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff \ > 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0 > 00020 74 9564 allow ip from any to any MAC any 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0 > 00021 87 85336 allow ip from any to any MAC 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd any via em0 > 00030 74 9564 allow ip from 192.168.123.45 to any via em0 > 00031 86 85290 allow ip from any to 192.168.123.45 via em0 > 65535 487 35078 deny ip from any to any > > Most of this logic is described in the section "PACKET FLOW" section in man > ipfw. > > "Note that as packets flow through the stack, headers can be stripped or > added to it, and so they may or may not be available for inspection. > E.g., incoming packets will include the MAC header when ipfw is invoked > from ether_demux(), but the same packets will have the MAC header > stripped off when ipfw is invoked from ip_input() or ip6_input()." > > Cheers > ch > > > On Saturday 09 June 2012, Bill Yuan wrote: > > rule like below > > > > #allow the traffic which source mac is belong to the machine > > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any > > #allow the ...... destination mac is that machine > > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any > > ipfw add 1 deny all from any to any > > > > > > it is not working , all the traffic will be block by the deny !!! how > come > > ? > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Lowell Gilbert < > > > > freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > > > Bill Yuan writes: > > > > i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic > > > > by the mac and the ip at the same time, > > > > > > > > for example, i only allow my laptop can go throught > the > > > > firewalll when it's using IP > > > > > > > > for how to config the firewall rules? > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt > > > > work > > > > > > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC > > > > any ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC any > > > Address > > > > > > 1> > > > > > > Well, for one thing if I understand your intent, you have the MAC > > > addresses in the wrong order. Unless your firewall is acting as a > > > bridge, you also need to keep in mind that the MAC addresses are > changed > > > when passing through, so those rules will only work on one side (i.e., > > > you'll need "in via" type rules). > > > > > > > but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone > > > > already asked this question before. > > > > > > I don't understand. Was there a suggested approach or not? > > > > > > > but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone > tell > > > > > > me > > > > > > > how ? thanks in advance. > > > > > > I can't guarantee this will work, and I don't have any way to test it, > > > > > > but my above comments would suggest something more like: > > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from to any MAC any Address > > > > > > in via $iif > > > > > > > ipfw add 1 allow all from any to MAC 1> > > > > > > any out via $oif > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 15:50:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3821106566C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.barnabas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E248FC1A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3998898pbb.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 08:50:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=umiuEL1eHwsyRECoCBxfgJ3RS6sTEzPEceQUGWSRmiU=; b=rZHVc2g7sDzc5UgGgTQjvljuZTuz++ubxiiVtdLXK1VKa19hZAZDmMuj+qFraW1w4F pyOqgJQdxVoR81Hz66lcoWWkjiL4pVoq4pYJAGM3xPr3ybfm4TmLoiY5N39nfmPD4u7v +ffZaRbSWrJYYDcOG9T5h1ZJbvfrtwU9fCFySFiL/6kqnlv1qVqpzWjUy2EWcIWBkb3S cNNtLSh4P5KCxztxALLnC5c9btqSHHxrgOxbX37J9PUp8x6vDzqs9zkwc0GxJWYB451Z DUq16/c02uv858nTpB0EOs01FaYBh67nk+JEug/ik3jWic9z59fs0g3uy26b2/kf7vfq BiBg== Received: by 10.68.227.163 with SMTP id sb3mr7660984pbc.74.1339257055150; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 08:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip68-98-76-182.ph.ph.cox.net. [68.98.76.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id to1sm11778920pbc.27.2012.06.09.08.50.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:51:24 -0700 From: Colin Barnabas To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120609155124.GB47874@hs1.VERBENA> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: wired memory - again! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:50:56 -0000 http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/31801/what-is-in-wired-memory On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 09:21:35AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > top reports wired memory 128MB > > > WHERE it is used? below results of vmstat -m and vmstat -z > values does not sum up even to half of it > FreeBSD 9 - few days old. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Colin Barnabas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 16:40:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989F1106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E83B8FC12 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so1835977vcb.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=wG3JOSENS+3kIgkdu6V/sOKd0dpvnVfc72pfLxl7Daw=; b=KbhePiwLAN2SXm7MMRTE83vlSyH2e6URFPo++E7d+No/vB1hnY8NgTjsGxsbVeR8jI GBqGhhHY2bpDy7kXik+94C4FX6uNgorfEjo2AWffbUSYQhM/PZIjd6Tyv9AyhFXN3HJh JHC6dw5H0b5Sa0ggSQ6VE8KmaNWrxWTHl1JFoXs42YmV1BeHLmVQkVPmjvIkLNICmXMg mt2r/1m5DmssyYA0jh4+mvufVf+JR2GyU/Fq4j6oOFeY7rnt20YA8Gx+kb8GWxIUQ1lW Efk91m0sUoCEDyRD3vpomtVWz1/NDEgq7bFMDach1BPzKTVDAHtVqS+muW/Bg8u5cww5 KWnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.72.99 with SMTP id c3mr410970vdv.54.1339260042524; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.106.166 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:40:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGwj7pGhnKKZu0i/fMGwzSQodIF1IQ9WJAONy3hLziZgdN5BUJRTr6TrWpDsKT93T5/uHc Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:40:43 -0000 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Gary Aitken wrote= : > I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. = =A0Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a= boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. =A0Can anyone recommend = an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? =A01024? =A0less? You may find this solution cheesy, but it works. I found the problem to be /var/db, and ran into it when doing a pkg_add -r for a package with a lot of dependencies. Some things - like freebsd-update - are configurable to use a different dir without this nonsense. - M pvpn 206> ls -l /var/db total 228 ---------- 1 root wheel 990 May 11 03:03 dhclient.leases.vr0 drwx------ 2 operator operator 512 Jun 9 16:33 entropy lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 37 May 11 02:32 freebsd-update -> ../../usr/local/var/db/freebsd-update drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Apr 9 21:10 ipf -r--r--r-- 1 nobody wheel 183727 Jun 9 04:15 locate.database -rw------- 1 root wheel 40790 May 16 20:05 mergemaster.mtree lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 May 11 02:32 pkg -> ../../usr/local/var/db/pkg lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 28 May 11 02:32 ports -> ../../usr/local/var/db/ports lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 31 May 11 02:32 portsnap -> ../../usr/local/var/db/portsnap drwx------ 3 root wheel 512 May 21 20:54 sudo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 16:41:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EA510657FB for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6308FC1F for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SdOjS-0006L2-FP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:41:46 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:41:46 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:41:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 24 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:41:50 -0000 FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the following modules: vcl framework sfx2 tail_build Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it completed successfully. When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth. Q1) Is this a sensible approach? Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 16:48:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB59F106566B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E39A8FC15 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5154 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2012 16:48:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2012 16:48:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=imXJRxs67UXQvMDdWo856RKqnYFVH4ddid5EAg0v/5I=; b=oC5QNx76RwAX/vK7sCEDt+2oKXuZFlnEp/2vMSsD8GsHoQLP0iuO0yt1yelUqgiwcZCijCimFuRZIVwIi2uq532lCv3yVNbhiPgOFEZg7qmuLzmzCYPAAe7HkjBlnpIz; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=60293 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdOqN-00078z-S9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:48:55 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 10:48:55 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:48:56 -0000 On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:42:37PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random wrote: > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > >>> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > >>> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > > > > It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > > NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's > > an overgrown ugly mess. > > > > We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware > > and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free > > hardware. > > > > There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on > > Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good > > riddance! > > > > You have no idea what you're talking about. > > This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor > helpful. It should be noted that your tone is neither constructive nor helpful, to say nothing of your contentless response. Do you have anything useful to say in response to what Dave U. Random contributed -- perhaps a thoughtful refutation of some specific point(s)? I hope you have more of value to contribute than your obvious disdain for people who disagree with you about something (without even specifying on what points you disagree). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 17:14:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FFE1065670 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davemorgan353@btinternet.com) Received: from nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 167C38FC08 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.216] by nm20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2012 17:12:26 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.203] by tm9.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2012 17:12:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2012 17:12:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 965809.62418.bm@omp1001.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 58602 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2012 17:12:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=tFrud1NmzfkLY2uB3EG/HLAm3EO3H2Zz+mpKlhsk3m5Mhaufsa6duvq4aqZ1SlObcKk3mZ/bvLT126izL4yIRu/1UKrqpmwB5zBeor7xEoz8XBGYMP6zaTNAXmGJy5yhwwmdf1L3kMNfnq7Es2OuHN3j7kkMoxLAUPKA606zhkQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1339261945; bh=49nzOVHOUZz4engOBDsctT3gEKu8hniAapYf1uDxkLU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=E2XZB92vq9BAEx3CB2tHRcGG8/OaTYwPANS6pDN1YPTEhlMSbFznNEYdA+jTffYKSUNbEhtErYGUykCROQCWk2kBUijrN9ZJAStCedfOL3YbTmI4IioGly89bvpKEeYdgJlcgEOUO0SuicuoyHORoRXkuSpcE0pVQVsJNDUhHfY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: slEIhl4VM1l1pINCPSywthybG3nyRDPsmglhEXfdQYCIG5F 13Xig1.t58mwJnk8X4hwv74DBuiESmY6VtonDxSjVv._MXNgkhJBspbXlAbx Lj4M8j1FGuMdxr6ILEkSZJO56ijsYPnBQ2yDgODJQ4jfUNtstR6wq5.eCwvC UKyH9vE9QgXSDXnm6cS_8Mqu0CA6Ex3pTHykDJXUMmyWJO8ZAVnUKjzvN_9M 4ZWb7w9OOwGZdloVhzRcHCoYcu1a_fq2SSivsHjQMZ3EwiwEGvuaHk6jSQ3h .QOCD9qN6g.YsnpQ5FnZfByQDqtHX3miHSdAWrnmkQ0R7GEQ_NuAheQXDowU h2b_UFl4EomwOvpA75VfmsS_GSjNkNsiq_w0AtcEwLQaCdmM3Hvnj73S.opK xZavAsMMG8LhvqyLtv5KtcbGO5OdC X-Yahoo-SMTP: FeX6yYuswBBCL.oFbbmosEv.mR8CzWF7tzqGX6qvB_sIFIHiYgl9CuU- Received: from localhost (davemorgan353@86.181.110.212 with login) by smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Jun 2012 10:12:25 -0700 PDT Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:12:25 +0100 From: Dave Morgan To: Walter Hurry Message-ID: <20120609171225.GA2860@rusty.rusty.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:14:49 -0000 On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote: > FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. > > I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to > 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the > following modules: > > vcl > framework > sfx2 > tail_build > > Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a > gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. > > This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it > completed successfully. > > When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the > portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will > just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth. > > Q1) Is this a sensible approach? > > Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them. I did this and it worked for me. -- Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 17:41:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA25106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAE28FC0C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF9E2.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.249.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q59HekQe093846; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:40:47 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q59HfCW2025898; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:41:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q59Hf0AX022540; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:41:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206091741.q59Hf0AX022540@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:39 MDT." <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:41:00 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: prune ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:41:01 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? Yes. Although as others pointed out it depend quite what you mean by that :-) Example setenv DUDS SomeEndPortToSkip_eg_ghostview One could also do setenv DUDS "`printenv DUDS` vietnamese chinese" ; make fetch if for instance you wanted to fetch most but not all distiles It prevents a recusion into SUBDIR (either into the 30 main ports/ dirs, or the 20,000+ 2nd level dirs. How I find DUDS useful: When I do an upgrade, I copy (using my shell http://berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise ) about 30 Makefile.local from my personal preference directory http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/jhs/ into /usr/ports/*/Makefile.local Then I let loose a monstrous make with something like cd /usr/ports ;\ nice make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES \ all install package package-recursive ; bell that takes days & always breaks a few times on route, (& using make -k or make -i is a bad idea, as it messes upports that other ports then think are built, but are not - so I avoid -i & -k ) Sometimes I dont have time to immediately analyse each breakage, & just want topush the compiles on, & come back later to debug broken faults, so I then use (with csh setenv DUDS "whatever_port_just_broke `printenv DUDS`" & start the make again. (PS & later after most stuff is build I start the truly monster builds eg openoffice etc with eg nice make BERKLIX_AMBITIOUS=YES \ all install package package-recursive ; bell # http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.sh/bell ) For DUDS & other ideas See: vi -c/DUDS /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 17:43:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA85E106566B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBB18FC19 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF9E2.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.249.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q59HhXQN093863; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:43:34 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q59HhxXN025902; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:43:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q59HhlRp022564; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:43:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206091743.q59HhlRp022564@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Denis Guzanov From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:45:54 +0400." Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:43:47 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:43:35 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Denis Guzanov > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:45:54 +0400 > Message-id: Denis Guzanov wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Team, > > Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the > best system for us, small IT staff. > > Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. > > I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following > iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso did you check the MD5 ? > And when I tried to install it I have nothing.... You'll need to be more specific. > I did it many times, but > have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed > successfully. > > Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 > systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? > > > Thanks and Best regards, > Denis. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 17:59:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AA01065670 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBB88FC08 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q59HiwT3073419; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:44:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4FD38B9A.4010400@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:44:58 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120425 Thunderbird/12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2903.1339191855@tristatelogic.com> <20434.30642.31558.246729@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:59:30 -0000 On 06/09/12 00:58, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > >> >> Ronald F. Guilmette writes: >> >>> I got a lot of disks here, so that part is not a problem. I just >>> need to make sure that I'm gonna do this the Right Way[tm]. >>> (I've already been making my own ham-fisted disk-to-disk backups >>> in the past, but I'm sure that the way I have been doing that is >>> sub-optimal, so I'm here seeking knowledge of how to do this the >>> Right Way.) >>> >>> The bottom line is this... I know how to use cpio, and would like >>> to use it to create a complete and _bootable_ backup of my main >>> system disk. (My main system disk has only one BIOS partition, >>> and that is sub-divided into the usual set of FreeBSD partitions, >>> you know, /, /dev, /tmp, /usr, /var, /usr/compat/linux/proc, and >>> /var/named/dev.) >> >> As far as I know, the only way guaranteed to preserve metadata >> is dump/restore. See previous (not necessarily recent) discussion >> (on this list, and possibly in the Handbook) for more information. > > The rsync port has a flags option. I haven't tried it for a full backup. > Even if it can copy all filesystem attributes like dump, there are still > non-filesystem things needed for booting that neither can copy, like > partition tables and boot blocks. There's a BFI (brute force and ignorance) way of doing it in the base system - dd. Provided your system disk is quiescent (ideally when running from a live CD or all partitions mounted read-only, otherwise pray to the deity of your choice) and the backup disk is a) at least as large as the system disk, and b) has the same sector size, then a simple dd from the system disk to the backup should work. [Greybeard war story:] Going back about 25-30 years, a friend of mine was responsible for running the Unix systems in an EE department of a UK university. He used to back up the disks (probably around 10 MB in those days) to 1/2" tape every night. Eventually he got sick of undergraduates asking him to restore files they'd accidentally deleted, and hit upon the idea of dd'ing the disk to tape, and then if a student wanted a restore, he'd mount the tape as a r/o file system (these were the days of tape block devices and trusting all users) and tell them to use restore to get the files themselves. It took forever, but it was the student's time that was wasted, not his. Most of them learned not to delete wanted files after one or two times of doing this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 19:43:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DDE1065672 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C892C8FC08 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31EBA705CF for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26685 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2012 19:43:37 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 9934, pid: 476, t: 0.1648s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Jun 2012 19:43:37 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBCD33C1E; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 442D139830; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jim Nasby References: <4FD248ED.702@nasby.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:43:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4FD248ED.702@nasby.net> (Jim Nasby's message of "Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:48:13 -0500") Message-ID: <443964s23l.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup of RELENG_8_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:43:39 -0000 Jim Nasby writes: > I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1: > > TreeList failed: Error in "/var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1": 13890: Could not parse status record. Delete it and try again. Have you tried deleting /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1 and retrying cvsup? > I realize that 8.1 isn't formally supported anymore, but should cvsup still work? I can't upgrade right now because of the conflict between GPT and gmirror what was introduced in 8.2. Right. This isn't version-related. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 19:47:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7022B106566C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Received: from noel.decibel.org (99-153-64-76.uvs.austtx.sbcglobal.net [99.153.64.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453F38FC14 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from decibook.local (cpe-70-113-206-12.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.206.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by noel.decibel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EF5A6D45D; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 14:47:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4FD3A860.5000806@nasby.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:47:44 -0500 From: Jim Nasby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD248ED.702@nasby.net> <443964s23l.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <443964s23l.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: cvsup of RELENG_8_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:47:56 -0000 On 6/9/12 2:43 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jim Nasby writes: > >> I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1: >> >> TreeList failed: Error in "/var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1": 13890: Could not parse status record. Delete it and try again. > > Have you tried deleting /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1 and > retrying cvsup? Somehow I got it in my head that that was a file living on the cvsup server and not locally. After deleting that file all is good. Thanks for your help! -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect jim@nasby.net 512.569.9461 (cell) http://jim.nasby.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 20:45:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA90106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212E88FC1C for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SdSXb-0003zl-KG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:45:47 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:45:47 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:45:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20120607145901.3022770d@scorpio> <4FD24B69.6050001@bananmonarki.se> <4FD2C9E1.2060304@bananmonarki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:45:52 -0000 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:58:25 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-06-09 00:10, Walter Hurry skrev: >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:58:49 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >>> 2012-06-08 17:51, Walter Hurry skrev: >>>> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: >>>> Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man >>>> rc.conf. moused_port. >>>> >>>> >>> You also have moused_flags="Put your flags here" >>> >>> That does not help, not me anyway. >> >> Indeed you do. But I didn't need moused_flags (nor moused_type) - just >> moused_port. I was then able to restore /etc/rc.d/moused to its >> pristine state. > > That would be moused_flags="-p /dev/sysmouse" Ah, good point. As ever, there's always more than one way to skin a cat. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 20:50:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12952106568B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FBC8FC15 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SdSbk-0002hX-J8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:50:04 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:50:04 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:50:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <20120609171225.GA2860@rusty.rusty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:50:09 -0000 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:12:25 +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote: >> FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. >> >> I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 >> to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in >> the following modules: >> >> vcl framework sfx2 tail_build >> >> Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and >> a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. >> >> This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it >> completed successfully. >> >> When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the >> portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will >> just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so >> forth. >> >> Q1) Is this a sensible approach? >> >> Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? > > There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and > boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them. > > I did this and it worked for me. Thanks. I'll try that and report back. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 21:43:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1BE106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1EC8FC12 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q59LhPSu094723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:43:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FD3C37C.7080009@tundraware.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:43:24 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:43:27 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q59LhPSu094723 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: [ANN] tperimeter 1.113 Released And Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:43:42 -0000 'tperimeter' Version 1.113 is released and available at: http://www.tundraware.com/Software/tperimeter/ The last public release was 1.112 What's New ---------- Changed the wrapper file rebuild logic to delete outstanding access requests independently of how often the script is run (either by cron, or manually). This means that the 'cron' frequency now determines the average waiting time before a user's request is fulfilled. The '${DURATION}' variable in 'rebuild-hosts.allow.sh' sets how long access will be permitted (The default value is 10 minutes). Minor documentation updates, typo fixes, and housekeeping. What Is 'tperimeter'? --------------------- Have you ever been away from the office and needed, say, ssh access to your system? Ooops - you can't do that because in your zealous pursuit of security, you set your TCP wrappers to prevent outside access to all but a select group of hosts. Worse still, everywhere you go, your local IP address changes so there is no practical way to open up the wrappers for this situation. 'tperimeter' is a dynamic TCP wrapper control system that gives you (limited) remote control of your TCP wrapper configuration. It does this via a web interface that you've (hopefully) secured with https/SSL. You just log in, specify your current IP address and one of the services you want to access. 'tperimeter' will then briefly open a hole in your wrappers long enough to let you in. It then automatically closes the hole again. Voila! Remote access to your system, wherever you are. You get much of the facility of a VPN or so-called "port knocking" without most of the aggravation. As a side benefit, 'tperimeter' will also simplify management of your standard /etc/hosts.allow TCP wrapper control file. 'tperimeter' is written in python, shell script, and html. It is very small and easy to maintain. It was developed and tested on FreeBSD 4.x/8.x, and apache 1.x/2.x, but should run with very minor (or no) modification on most Unix-like systems like Linux or Mac OS X hosts. It comes complete with documentation in html, pdf, dvi, and Postscript formats. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei4sm19622225wid.5.2012.06.09.15.38.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:38:27 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120609233827.497b2ca4@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:38:38 -0000 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 Gary Aitken wrote: > I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size > 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in > general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can > anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? > less? portsnap needs roughly one file per port plus one for each out of date port during a fetch. There are 23658 ports. In FreeBSD 9 the fragment size increased, halving the default number of inodes. With only 32k inodes it's possible to run out with portsnap alone. You can probably get away with the old default of 64k (-i 8192), or perhaps 128k (-i 4096). Check how many files you have outside of portsnap and do the arithmetic.