From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 00:19:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0BE68D for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757BB8FC14 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19884607C for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:19:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:19:04 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> In-Reply-To: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:19:06 -0000 Hi, On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article or a discussion where this issue is described ? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 06:35:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC877C0D for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levitch@iglou.com) Received: from rdsmtp.iglou.com (rdsmtp.iglou.com [192.107.41.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91EE8FC08 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:35:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=iglou.com; s=alpha; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=NEOyP5Lsr1Hx6lwvNReEoLnfL65k7IDL43RGPvOBW3Q=; b=Yh6g7Fc6KKw3Z0qzoGWq+ZW/RcAn8FJ1otaHjSI+Vtvv9ZadN2FomDczo64Bhfcl5BT56DP7ZSw5hPNXP3vt4P7QwujTpwSplJ/GA1HsKMfdoWHRi8eUI6CH3TcVMlrkOh9OlGc3kWaayYBQxEQFPsKwrG42DF/3G4ap8FwnAuY=; Received: from iglou3.iglou.com ([192.107.41.6]:47473 helo=mail.iglou.com) by rdsmtp.iglou.com with esmtpa (Exim MTA/8.19.3) (envelope-from ) id 1TPp88-0001Eh-6f by authid with igloumta_auth for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:35:24 -0400 Received: from shell1.iglou.com ([192.107.41.17]:48397 helo=shell1) by mail.iglou.com with esmtps (TLS cipher TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim MTA/8.19.3) (envelope-from ) id 1TPp87-00026X-SH for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:35:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:35:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Darrel X-X-Sender: levitch@shell1 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 'svn up' problem on amd64 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (GSO 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Originating-IP: 192.107.41.17 X-IgLou-Customer: 3cb6f76205bd20f518810676a67a982b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:35:31 -0000 Hello, Advice? I have not seen this before: (685) @ 2:22:16> cd /usr/src (686) @ 2:22:18> svn up Updating '.': Skipped 'sys' -- Node remains in conflict At revision 241794. Summary of conflicts: Skipped paths: 1 (687) @ 2:22:43> - more background information: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ZFS Subsystem Report Sun Oct 21 02:32:36 2012 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ System Information: Kernel Version: 901000 (osreldate) Hardware Platform: amd64 Processor Architecture: amd64 ZFS Storage pool Version: 28 ZFS Filesystem Version: 5 FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241106: Mon Oct 1 18:26:44 UTC 2012 root 2:32AM up 4 days, 18:32, 7 users, load averages: 0.14, 0.10, 0.08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Darrel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 10:17:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D53EA8 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ED38FC16 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9LAHrFS087346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:17:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9LAHrFS087346 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9LAHrFS087346; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <5083CBD1.4000707@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:17:53 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'svn up' problem on amd64 References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2EA14C3F946B4BB5B9C844D8" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:17:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2EA14C3F946B4BB5B9C844D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/10/2012 07:35, Darrel wrote: > Advice? I have not seen this before: >=20 > (685) @ 2:22:16> cd /usr/src > (686) @ 2:22:18> svn up > Updating '.': > Skipped 'sys' -- Node remains in conflict > At revision 241794. > Summary of conflicts: > Skipped paths: 1 > (687) @ 2:22:43> For some reason svn thinks your local copy of sys conflicts with the copy from the repo. That could happen if you have local patches or similar, but svn would usually prompt you to merge any such. Also this seems to have affected people completely innocent of any such changes. Assuming you've checked out the stable/9 branch then I think this (untested) command should resolve the problems: # cd /usr/src # svn merge --accept theirs-full ^/stable/9 Use 'svn info' to see what the URL setting for your repo is -- you can just paste that in as is instead of '^/stable/9', or you can use the shorthand '^' which stands for the text from the 'Repository Root' setting plus the rest of the URL string. Note that the 'theirs-full' method of resolving conflicts will tend to wipe out any local changes you may have. If that is a concern, then you could try using the 'edit' method instead. (As the name suggests, this puts you in an editor showing the conflicting merge results, and requires you to edit things into what the result of the mmerge should have been.) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig2EA14C3F946B4BB5B9C844D8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCDy9EACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwoVwCeP0JYP4wI2Cgf7hcb/OLOzlIh u2AAn0cYQjpvj40UBbTawCjNuPVznrt1 =mcoz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2EA14C3F946B4BB5B9C844D8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 11:42:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F035F5 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks.1785@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CB28FC0A for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so1871634iag.13 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:41:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=d3Zrtpo3V6Sg4qM8foc++XcgMhE0yYHplGNGPUcVS28=; b=ZCOgS9n9SqrzihjGE2sHupKU/RmG8CmoLy0xZEed44RA4qSMjMOPs9agFMOL0n7b0U 1nOFndpmTexinoKf+7Qo7yIroWlNQzmvK3v2iFGSAgPZVUuhk2mDKw39g6goDFdmbBlp KIVk3PBCEpDF3RqGdDoAj15rM6XIIvYtqUU3aBcvPnJEbiSUH2VOyw3wJuVPhJzCtuv3 uGwbWZqLRewQted+6qzh4hIVs4p4XDvmS6xUkShYPWLAt9q5PAlBK2lWEuh1wvZ9mkYT ey0m42/4WOinG+O38EemrV5nBayCL63cgNtTV6jDbBsuBE76m4g7z6upVuWVTtDxOHtY P8Rg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.237.70 with SMTP id va6mr13369244igc.8.1350819719784; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.11.166 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:41:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121020080905.27440256.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121020080905.27440256.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:11:59 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pppoe configuration and dns name resolution From: Jack To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:42:00 -0000 Hi This time I configured as simple as possible with minimal settings, and voila things worked. I successfully connected to internet in both cases - DHCP server disabled in adsl modem, and DHCP server enabled in adsl modem. Thanks all of you guys for helping. :) Here are config files: ## /etc/rc.config hostname="jacks_lappy" ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" # The below line is to be used if DHCP server on adsl # modem is disabled. #ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.0" # This is assigned to telnet to adsl modem and configure it, # if you don't wanna communicate with modem, remove # this line. It doesn't affect ppp connectivity, in any way - # I tried removing it and got connected successfully. sshd_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" powerd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="AUTO" hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" ----------------------------------------------- ## /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: default: set log Phase tun command adsl: set device PPPoE:fxp0 #MRU is optional too, you can remove it # w/o affecting ppp connectivity. set mru 1492 #set mtu 1492 # This was the cause of failure. # See man ppp for more info. # If MTU is set, ppp will not accept MRU values less than MTU. # e.g. MTU = 1492. Now if your ISP has MTU = 1460(my case), then # ppp on your PC, will not connect to ppp server at your ISP side. # So DO NOT set MTU explicitly. set authname set authkey set dial set login add default HISADDR enable dns # a must, if DHCP server is enabled in adsl modem # and if you don't wanna edit /etc/resolv.conf # each time before connecting tp ISP's ppp server. #Now you don't need to touch /etc/resolv.conf ----------------------------------------------------------------- My /etc/resolv.conf is updated each time I start ppp, so I didn't needed to edit it. I simply started ppp via ppp -ddial adsl I also didn't start ppp at bootup, as it requires that your adsl modem must be powered on before FreeBSD begins booting, which is not the usual case for me. Also, as soon as I started ppp, an ip address is assigned to tun0 interface by ISP, while fxp0 was assigned its ip address via DHCP server enabled in adsl modem, even before I attempted to dial ppp. That is expected. I also tested this configuration with DHCP server disabled in adsl modem and it too worked successfully, except I need to chnage the line fxp0="DHCP" to manually assigned ip address one, no other change was needed. The problem might be I was I trying to explcitly set MTU to be 1492, which ppp takes as minimum value - ie no MTU value less than 1492 is agreed upon by user ppp. My ISP's MTU was 1460, and since 1460 < 1492, so ppp was not agreeing upon MTU value and no connection was made. Thanks again all of you guys for sorting this out. :) Mean while I created a script to start and stop ppp service for a profile. This script is specifically written for csh/tcsh shell - the default one for FreeBSD, so some changes need to be made if it is to be run in other shells. Just go to c shell and type pppdo where 'profilename' is the desired profilename defined in etc/ppp/ppp.conf, and either you 'start' ppp or 'stop' ppp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here goes the script: pppdo.sh #!/bin/csh if ( $#argv != 2 ) then echo "Usage: $0 " exit endif switch ($2) case start: /usr/sbin/ppp -ddial $1 ; breaksw case stop: killall -INT ppp killall -HUP ppp ; breaksw default: echo "$0 : Invalid Cmd" ; breaksw endsw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: before executing this script make sure it is executable If not, type this at shell: chmod +x ./pppdo.sh After executing this script try pinging to a remote site to confirm connectivity, e.g. type this at shell: ping -c5 freebsd.org If you get 0.0% packet loss, then you made it! So, the only files that require modifications are /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and /etc/rc.conf No other file need to be modified to use user ppp, no matter whether DHCP server on your adsl modem is enabled or disabled, it doesn't matter - just use the configuration mention above. Then use the script as: ./pppdo adsl start to start the ppp profile named "adsl"(tun0 interface is created), and use ./pppdo adsl stop to stop the ppp. This will destroy the tun0 interface too. PS: The user account from which this script is to be run, must be a member of "network" group too, though "network" group need not to be the user's login group. This is the requirement of user ppp itself, and not of this script. Regards -- Jack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 11:45:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931D999C for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490AE8FC12 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so2532643vcb.13 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:45:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fMTynQAvNnU7atUwbWQsDyr19eqQieShXM+B32X0gqo=; b=YQTfGR6jsuwKxOe0qt2nVv/Ec7NRei9r+XWqEtVqzxZZ6lV5YD6tPMIgAtJDHujqO4 HPMq+96wWG+8WTm76Qy3V0PXHkGvehn/D+XumDz+o5mTsLgHFSW6M5OJcgw3G1Nmq0G7 QRdNrgUmoMAEEwq3lzl1vwSVo8ieRxNY19/bon+17BHHeAklYvTTw2dArSVM9g7oPi4E zpuj2Cbq1mFt4y4aY8ILf3nT/lyWoYgL5JU9YFKRQTQcBTgyGQ/ixe9dUn4HzjFX+QUh WbWLDrzVlnPtNsn73r6CixTP8qagv9Yytz7yzU+M3PbEpus7yDQoeBZfpBfaIrM0BWoq Hgzg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.227.199 with SMTP id jb7mr9626047vcb.26.1350819956478; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.186.197 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:45:56 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: `pkg_add -r mongodb` failed From: Alexandr Alexeev To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:45:57 -0000 Hello. I have a problem with MongoDB installation: asus# pkg_add -r mongodb Fetching http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stable/Latest/mongodb.tbz... Done. ===> Creating users and/or groups. Using existing group 'mongodb'. Creating user 'mongodb' with uid '922'. pw: user 'mongodb' already exists pkg_add: command 'if ! /usr/sbin/pw usershow mongodb >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo "Creating user 'mongodb' with uid '922'."; /usr/sbin/pw useradd mongodb -u 922 -g 922 -c "MongoDB pseudo-user" -d /var/db/mongodb -s /bin/sh; else echo "Using existing user 'mongodb'."; fi' failed # cat /etc/passwd | grep mongodb mongodb:*:922:922:MongoDB pseudo-user:/var/db/mongodb:/bin/sh # cat /etc/group | grep mongodb mongodb:*:922: # id mongodb id: mongodb: no such user # pw userdel mongodb pw: no such user `mongodb' # uname -a FreeBSD asus.home 9.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 01:47:53 UTC 2012 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 It seems that binary package is broken. -- Best regards, Alex Alexeev http://twitter.com/afiskon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 12:04:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5FC4B7 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C228FC08 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9LC4W71089241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:04:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9LC4W71089241 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9LC4W71089241; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <5083E4C9.4000309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:04:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `pkg_add -r mongodb` failed References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig87BF8BB5B0ED78562C65CB56" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:04:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig87BF8BB5B0ED78562C65CB56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/10/2012 12:45, Alexandr Alexeev wrote: > Hello. >=20 > I have a problem with MongoDB installation: >=20 > asus# pkg_add -r mongodb > Fetching http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stabl= e/Latest/mongodb.tbz... > Done. > =3D=3D=3D> Creating users and/or groups. > Using existing group 'mongodb'. > Creating user 'mongodb' with uid '922'. > pw: user 'mongodb' already exists > pkg_add: command 'if ! /usr/sbin/pw usershow mongodb >/dev/null 2>&1; > then echo "Creating user 'mongodb' with uid '922'."; /usr/sbin/pw > useradd mongodb -u 922 -g 922 -c "MongoDB pseudo-user" -d > /var/db/mongodb -s /bin/sh; else echo "Using existing user > 'mongodb'."; fi' failed >=20 > # cat /etc/passwd | grep mongodb > mongodb:*:922:922:MongoDB pseudo-user:/var/db/mongodb:/bin/sh >=20 > # cat /etc/group | grep mongodb > mongodb:*:922: >=20 > # id mongodb > id: mongodb: no such user >=20 > # pw userdel mongodb > pw: no such user `mongodb' >=20 > # uname -a > FreeBSD asus.home 9.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 > 01:47:53 UTC 2012 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >=20 > It seems that binary package is broken. >=20 At a guess there are added user records in /etc/master.passwd which haven't been processed into /etc/pwd.db This will confuse applications trying to use pw(8). Try running: # pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd Now 'id mongodb' should acknowledge the existence of the mongodb account, and you should be able (re)install the mongodb pkg without it complaining so much. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig87BF8BB5B0ED78562C65CB56 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCD5M8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyD8gCfS354Q/m6r2qyp5jzaqahUlK9 zrkAn2X6eB+id2Ir/W7KRmOz3iDBrDwh =V5Tu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig87BF8BB5B0ED78562C65CB56-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 12:46:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D323B73B; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737D28FC18; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id v11so2552180vbm.13 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:46:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uL2+mFfwMFC9ihkhCnI3VntnsY4rvjR5fGPFKeIcje8=; b=E9WtLCoativm5US3nXb3V3/pbP/oJafOV5xEkihLkRFLSsO8JwEHxowE3dPox6HpYW GbmVqaHnf8EeJL8hYrVgklcItp6tj6Cd7wX3jukjdvctSXaU+LYvABXfE/BZ5RqKfMop 2O6UCvL7MGGBSpwtmGhBzWdzLk3ZPm0DUTGAbZVvAoYmlvaJvKOjRP8SGi5Owqr3ypGO RpdhEIi4vR4VlhuvUfsxH5HWHdSzKs+YkcQhNQ+i5btlS1wmDBVxwjD1DyH4c7qH9h/q AiqKRsUDVXDpcqIRBQXGJ3ztm67CcyPMiwSRQFuHbHQQ9s6FBr2f/DkZ3of78WH4iPuC XHJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.234 with SMTP id dn10mr7938234vdb.28.1350823560658; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.186.197 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:46:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5083E4C9.4000309@FreeBSD.org> References: <5083E4C9.4000309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:46:00 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: `pkg_add -r mongodb` failed From: Alexandr Alexeev To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:46:02 -0000 Thanks! BTW, MongoDB port has the same error: ===> Installing for mongodb-2.0.6_1 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if databases/mongodb already installed ===> Creating users and/or groups. Using existing group `mongodb'. Creating user `mongodb' with uid `922'. pw: user 'mongodb' already exists *** Error code 74 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mongodb. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mongodb. ===>>> Installation of mongodb-2.0.6_1 (databases/mongodb) failed ===>>> Aborting update Terminated ===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command line: portmaster databases/mongodb How should one report errors in such cases? On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/10/2012 12:45, Alexandr Alexeev wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I have a problem with MongoDB installation: >> >> asus# pkg_add -r mongodb >> Fetching http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stable/Latest/mongodb.tbz... >> Done. >> ===> Creating users and/or groups. >> Using existing group 'mongodb'. >> Creating user 'mongodb' with uid '922'. >> pw: user 'mongodb' already exists >> pkg_add: command 'if ! /usr/sbin/pw usershow mongodb >/dev/null 2>&1; >> then echo "Creating user 'mongodb' with uid '922'."; /usr/sbin/pw >> useradd mongodb -u 922 -g 922 -c "MongoDB pseudo-user" -d >> /var/db/mongodb -s /bin/sh; else echo "Using existing user >> 'mongodb'."; fi' failed >> >> # cat /etc/passwd | grep mongodb >> mongodb:*:922:922:MongoDB pseudo-user:/var/db/mongodb:/bin/sh >> >> # cat /etc/group | grep mongodb >> mongodb:*:922: >> >> # id mongodb >> id: mongodb: no such user >> >> # pw userdel mongodb >> pw: no such user `mongodb' >> >> # uname -a >> FreeBSD asus.home 9.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 >> 01:47:53 UTC 2012 >> root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> It seems that binary package is broken. >> > > At a guess there are added user records in /etc/master.passwd which > haven't been processed into /etc/pwd.db This will confuse applications > trying to use pw(8). > > Try running: > > # pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > Now 'id mongodb' should acknowledge the existence of the mongodb > account, and you should be able (re)install the mongodb pkg without it > complaining so much. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > -- Best regards, Alex Alexeev http://twitter.com/afiskon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 13:12:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5279B64 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B28FC08 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9LDCGug090374 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:12:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9LDCGug090374 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9LDCGug090374; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <5083F4A7.4050802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:12:07 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandr Alexeev Subject: Re: `pkg_add -r mongodb` failed References: <5083E4C9.4000309@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF62CE14AE0CEF19CA534A019" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:12:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF62CE14AE0CEF19CA534A019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/10/2012 13:46, Alexandr Alexeev wrote: > Thanks! >=20 > BTW, MongoDB port has the same error: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for mongodb-2.0.6_1 > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if databases/mongodb already installed > =3D=3D=3D> Creating users and/or groups. > Using existing group `mongodb'. > Creating user `mongodb' with uid `922'. > pw: user 'mongodb' already exists > *** Error code 74 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mongodb. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mongodb. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> Installation of mongodb-2.0.6_1 (databases/mongodb) failed= > =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update >=20 > Terminated >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this comman= d line: > portmaster databases/mongodb >=20 > How should one report errors in such cases? In this case, I'm afraid it looks very much as if the problem is local to your system, and nothing wrong with the port itself. As the databases/mongodb port uses the generic mechanisms for handling USERS and GROUPS it's likely that if there was a problem with the databases/mongodb port, then you'ld be seeing similar problems with any port that uses the same mechanism. There would be an excess of complaints from many users that would be hard to miss. No such complaining has been observed. In short: something is wrong in the password database on your system specifically, which is causing the installation of databases/mongodb to throw errors. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Cohen" Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? In-Reply-To: <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> Message-ID: References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@johnea.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:33:03 -0000 On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: > On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? > > I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article > or a discussion where this issue is described ? The GPT backup partition tables goes at the end of a disk, the same place gmirror(8) and other GEOM modules keep metadata. If GPT partitions are created inside a mirror, the backup GPT table is no longer at the end of the disk. Hiroki Sato created a patch which fixed the gptboot complaints, but there was concern about the nonstandard location of the backup table. At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 14:37:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BC8F8D for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCB08FC0A for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9LEbfdl070338; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:37:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9LEbfNd070335; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:37:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:37:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Spam and more spam In-Reply-To: <20121021073639.5d08c571@X220.ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <20121021073639.5d08c571@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:37:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:37:42 -0000 On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: > could t be that everybody can post now on this list without being > registered and without having administrator's approval? It actually has been that way forever. There may be certain rules that trigger moderation in some cases, but usually not. The reason for the open list is that questions@ has been given as a support address in documents, and some feel that should remain open. > Should we move to a list where only registered users can write just to > avoid the spam problem and not forcing a human to approve all e-mails > from addresses which are not registered? The forums are that way already: http://forums.freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 15:44:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6C68A2 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1868FC0C for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.234] (worker500.johnea.net [192.168.100.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04B4873F188B for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50841872.3060305@johnea.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:44:50 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:44:52 -0000 On 10/21/2012 07:32 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: > >> On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >>> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? >> >> I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article >> or a discussion where this issue is described ? > > The GPT backup partition tables goes at the end of a disk, the same > place gmirror(8) and other GEOM modules keep metadata. If GPT > partitions are created inside a mirror, the backup GPT table is no > longer at the end of the disk. Hiroki Sato created a patch which fixed > the gptboot complaints, but there was concern about the nonstandard > location of the backup table. > > At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). Thank you Warren. That sums it up. Lucas, I found this blag post informative: https://koitsu.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/using-freebsd-graid-geom-raid/ There are also several interesting posts on Michael Lucas' blag, such as: http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071 This is a good discussion thread that dives into a specific configuration and the implications: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/disk-partitioning-with-gmirror-gpt-gjournal-RFC-td4912676.html I've tried to determine which came first GEOM or GPT. It seems GEOM is actually older, dating from FreeBSD 5, around 2003. While GPT seems to have been integrated with what is now known as UEFI in the later half of that decade. It also seems "greedy" of GPT to require both the first and last sectors of the disk. This seems to almost guarantee it will have issues with other low level disk formatting tools. Of course, given the history of the "WinTel" partnership, perhaps not interoperating with other tools was a design specification 8-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table In any case, the upcoming wide spread use of UEFI/GPT (i.e. windoze on commodity PCs) compared to the FreeBSD specific nature of GEOM, pretty much insures that it will have to be GEOM that changes to accommodate this conflict. Even given the denial of who is David and who is Goliath, in the fact that the GEOM developers don't seem to consider this "their" bug: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=162147 It seems inevitable that the FreeBSD devs will have to capitulate and find another way to store the GEOM meta-data or we're going to loose the great benefits of whole disk mirrors under GEOM. [please proceed with tongue in cheek] This may not occur any time soon, as time progresses at a different rate for BSD than it does with the rest of the world. A great example is this sentence from the Architecture Handbook: "The Universal Serial Bus (USB) is a new way of attaching devices to personal computers." Of course USB is roughly 20 years old now 8-) There are some other great quotes regarding the "new" computer input device, called the "mouse". [safe to freely operate tongue again] In any case, it seems my new 9.1-RC2 installation will be MBR partitioned with whole disk GEOM mirror. This motherboard is BIOS based, not UEFI. It's become fairly de rigueur to accommodate the 4K sector size disks with fdisk and MBR partitioning. As we propel forward into SSDs this may not stay the case. Any other comments or caveats are very greatly appreciated... johnea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 16:22:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D77CFA for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9460C8FC08 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90016A0BB for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60972CF3ED for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:22:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:21:59 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how many memory is needed for FreeBSD 9 ? Message-ID: <20121021182159.38d1113b@davenulle.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:22:27 -0000 Hi, I'm updating an old laptop running FreeBSD 8.1 with 64 MB ram (44MB available) but now FreeBSD 9.1 panics at boot time: panic: kmem_malloc(4194304): kmem_map too small: 24584192 allocated? Any work-around? Thanks regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 16:50:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE5521E for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7010F8FC0C for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:50:03 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMJACwmhFA6Buq4/2dsb2JhbABEhSu6XQSBBIEIgiABAQQBOj8FCwsNAScRFBgxE4d+Bbowi3MBNYVFYAOVcIVSNYozgwOBRgEf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,626,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="52381010" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([58.6.234.184]) by icp-osb-irony-out5.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2012 00:49:53 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2371BDD1; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:49:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:49:50 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Patrick Lamaiziere Subject: Re: how many memory is needed for FreeBSD 9 ? Message-ID: <20121021164950.GA65075@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121021182159.38d1113b@davenulle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121021182159.38d1113b@davenulle.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:50:05 -0000 On Sun 2012-10-21 18:21:59 UTC+0200, Patrick Lamaiziere (patfbsd@davenulle.org) wrote: > I'm updating an old laptop running FreeBSD 8.1 with 64 MB ram (44MB > available) but now FreeBSD 9.1 panics at boot time: > > panic: kmem_malloc(4194304): kmem_map too small: 24584192 allocated? That's one very old laptop. I think you'll need to install more memory or downgrade FreeBSD to an earlier version. 9.1-RELEASE isn't available yet, only 9.1-RC1 & RC2. Given it's prerelease code it's plausible the 9.1-RC2 kernel requires more memory at boot than 9.1-REL will. Attempting to boot 9.0-REL from CD on your laptop should answer that question. >From my limited testing under VirtualBox, 96 MB RAM is about the lower limit that will allow FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 to boot before the swap partition is enabled. Any less and the kernel will freeze or panic at boot. This was with the amd64 version though, not i386. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 17:20:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A089D6F9 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1449A8FC0A for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9LHA7NQ029804 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:10:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:10:06 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121013 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:20:44 -0000 Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. 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[84.102.21.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm12174760eel.14.2012.10.21.10.35.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5084327F.3020508@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:59 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121016 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i3 window manager 4.3 Build error on FreeBSD References: <20121018192443.15f8c0c4@atomizer64> In-Reply-To: <20121018192443.15f8c0c4@atomizer64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:35:57 -0000 On 19/10/2012 01:24, Rod Person wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to build the latest version of i3 on FreeBSD since the port > has not been updated yet, and I get the following error when building. > > [i3] YACC src/cfgparse.y > [i3] CC src/cfgparse.tab.c > [i3] LEX src/cfgparse.l > flex: can't open src/cfgparse.yy.c > gmake: *** [src/cfgparse.yy.c] Error 1 > > I have > flex 2.5.37 > bison 2.5.1 > installed from ports. > If this is not the FreeBSD port ask i3 team. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 17:36:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE71981 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DA68FC0C for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9LHaUGd094597 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:36:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9LHaUGd094597 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9LHaUGd094597; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <50843299.6030407@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:36:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig54E91BA0BEF7AFF5D429677C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:36:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig54E91BA0BEF7AFF5D429677C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/10/2012 18:10, Arthur Chance wrote: > Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using > it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I= > delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running > RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives i= f > that matters. There is no particularly good reason to keep pkg_tools around once you've made the switch to pkgng. pkgng should provide replacements for all the pkg_tool functionality and slot into its place quite smoothly. However, I'm not sure that there's been adequate testing on a pkg_tools-free setup, so it is not entirely outside the bounds of possibility that you might run into some odd problems. If you do, please report what happens, as that's definitely a bug that needs fixing.= Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig54E91BA0BEF7AFF5D429677C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCEMp4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx7DACePblSO2bA7jssH3PqQwOyNAFS TgYAnR31O0XYH78558sBXAgA3xI9R7Ef =q75X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig54E91BA0BEF7AFF5D429677C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 17:51:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268FFD77 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E2A8FC12 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer64 (c-71-60-224-178.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.224.178]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 033CE67AED; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:51:03 -0400 From: Rod Person To: David Demelier Subject: Re: i3 window manager 4.3 Build error on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20121021135103.0695a9b1@atomizer64> In-Reply-To: <5084327F.3020508@gmail.com> References: <20121018192443.15f8c0c4@atomizer64> <5084327F.3020508@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:51:11 -0000 On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:59 +0200 David Demelier wrote: > On 19/10/2012 01:24, Rod Person wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to build the latest version of i3 on FreeBSD since the > > port has not been updated yet, and I get the following error when > > building. > > > > [i3] YACC src/cfgparse.y > > [i3] CC src/cfgparse.tab.c > > [i3] LEX src/cfgparse.l > > flex: can't open src/cfgparse.yy.c > > gmake: *** [src/cfgparse.yy.c] Error 1 > > > > I have > > flex 2.5.37 > > bison 2.5.1 > > installed from ports. > > > > If this is not the FreeBSD port ask i3 team. I did...being FreeBSD specific they sent me here. Either way, someone else helped me out. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com "First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent." - Bill Gates From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 17:58:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A2FE4F for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C286C8FC0A for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f54.google.com with SMTP id c50so879963eek.13 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VrmZxXGZKL6n/oj3hDi6Uxa5fEBKYa/Gy/oNUWkG8hU=; b=OgCDUVphqOYRrQDVnYuszzU89o/wv444P7KYOo8GoUDT90FkHom5bD3aYALfcHJUff c/esY8F4htlAM6lFFzHPeQDlLDgIzoZ3CoyEpbH3tHbrKSRjvKIVdSl5KYosJ3MfV7MQ DXNa9f3orQc6CPZr1VKgDIvz4nPAt/oQUyOV7tF+Gc8ORY6BM+DzaHlf79C21m/eY6AU 4C7F0Je37SGgqn8yNSG+SIBQhcYGtz3PJNAHa2/ViCiNlKA7JZLZZYvYq2Ii59ppx7kg +ZhxutvREGy+w2BRQmNJCAclUor264Of1APomtt8jAqPbmVtlLjyoNAI1WzYYECHFClW HV0A== Received: by 10.14.173.67 with SMTP id u43mr9226413eel.27.1350842294730; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Groseille.malikania.fr (248.21.102.84.rev.sfr.net. [84.102.21.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i1sm12287951eeo.8.2012.10.21.10.58.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508437BA.7040304@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:58:18 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121016 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rod Person Subject: Re: i3 window manager 4.3 Build error on FreeBSD References: <20121018192443.15f8c0c4@atomizer64> <5084327F.3020508@gmail.com> <20121021135103.0695a9b1@atomizer64> In-Reply-To: <20121021135103.0695a9b1@atomizer64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:58:22 -0000 On 21/10/2012 19:51, Rod Person wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:59 +0200 > David Demelier wrote: >> On 19/10/2012 01:24, Rod Person wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm trying to build the latest version of i3 on FreeBSD since the >>> port has not been updated yet, and I get the following error when >>> building. >>> >>> [i3] YACC src/cfgparse.y >>> [i3] CC src/cfgparse.tab.c >>> [i3] LEX src/cfgparse.l >>> flex: can't open src/cfgparse.yy.c >>> gmake: *** [src/cfgparse.yy.c] Error 1 >>> >>> I have >>> flex 2.5.37 >>> bison 2.5.1 >>> installed from ports. >>> >> >> If this is not the FreeBSD port ask i3 team. > > I did...being FreeBSD specific they sent me here. > > Either way, someone else helped me out. > > Tell us how it can help someone else :) -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 18:22:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D245EA75 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F0E8FC16 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer64 (c-71-60-224-178.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.224.178]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 37AC467AED; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:22:56 -0400 From: Rod Person To: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: i3 window manager 4.3 Build error on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20121021142256.58105b05@atomizer64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:22:58 -0000 Sorry, I thought the list was included by the responder Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:05:01 +0200 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: Rod Person Cc: dhn@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i3 window manager 4.3 Build error on FreeBSD On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:24:43 -0400 Rod Person wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to build the latest version of i3 on FreeBSD since the port > has not been updated yet, and I get the following error when building. > > [i3] YACC src/cfgparse.y > [i3] CC src/cfgparse.tab.c > [i3] LEX src/cfgparse.l > flex: can't open src/cfgparse.yy.c > gmake: *** [src/cfgparse.yy.c] Error 1 The commands that fail are: flex -i -o src/cfgparse.yy.c ../i3-4.3/src/cfgparse.l flex -i -o i3-config-wizard/cfgparse.yy.c i3-config-wizard/cfgparse.l The below commands work: flex -i -osrc/cfgparse.yy.c ../i3-4.3/src/cfgparse.l flex -i -oi3-config-wizard/cfgparse.yy.c i3-config-wizard/cfgparse.l So making the port to build is very simple. You can try my patch: http://oslo.ath.cx/i3-wm_4_3.diff I've cc'ed the port maintainer. Regards, Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 00:04:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1BAEC8 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE858FC0A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so2235656iag.13 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:04:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vW3lPhyenhUTXpf/vtajsxgA6G0dyXMm64/M/pcHxoo=; b=Dk6yZf7yCUNjTde+6RLYiwAZ7n0ZmcpAmRiVYlJf3YjAtqkV4tia+lL4RU7TG1Y6Tl xpJBzQmANURRyJyh4Ch+CKBoDIIl33IkvYLCWwk/O2F5b+r+pzi4pUGtsHqH9sgbSPb2 Vc9MoHx4ELA6XxexwIQcsvj6dn4M6QrAZK0UYK2t1RLO3Dz7YcfLG8+iHfJ3Lowu7UTh 8ueb6545KILe1iWwUHg6CAv7Itl84KqtNGLaceKhtFc8hVxJFCL/JebYdBhXltj3W7Xm 4tbkV0WTyT0UTSivFU3Xg4W4jS/fXf4mEK+hM/Djng9PQEIkoYNfoEF53aTUr0SljvKZ MmUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.32.74 with SMTP id c10mr6315339icd.36.1350864276658; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.30.11 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:04:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121021164950.GA65075@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121021182159.38d1113b@davenulle.org> <20121021164950.GA65075@ozzmosis.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how many memory is needed for FreeBSD 9 ? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: andrew clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Patrick Lamaiziere , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:04:37 -0000 On 21 October 2012 12:49, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sun 2012-10-21 18:21:59 UTC+0200, Patrick Lamaiziere (patfbsd@davenulle.org) wrote: > >> I'm updating an old laptop running FreeBSD 8.1 with 64 MB ram (44MB >> available) but now FreeBSD 9.1 panics at boot time: >> >> panic: kmem_malloc(4194304): kmem_map too small: 24584192 allocated? > > That's one very old laptop. I think you'll need to install more memory > or downgrade FreeBSD to an earlier version. > > 9.1-RELEASE isn't available yet, only 9.1-RC1 & RC2. Given it's > prerelease code it's plausible the 9.1-RC2 kernel requires more memory > at boot than 9.1-REL will. Attempting to boot 9.0-REL from CD on your > laptop should answer that question. > > From my limited testing under VirtualBox, 96 MB RAM is about the lower > limit that will allow FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 to boot before the swap > partition is enabled. Any less and the kernel will freeze or panic at > boot. This was with the amd64 version though, not i386. Keep in mind that the installer will take some memory on top of what is needed to boot FreeBSD. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 02:59:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD97854 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from okamoto@mix-net.co.jp) Received: from mix-ict.net (mix-ict.net [202.239.126.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134E28FC12 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mix-ict.net (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 847745D4AD7; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:45 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mix-ict.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=13.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from [192.168.5.152] (220x151x200x91.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp [220.151.200.91]) by mix-ict.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729EE5D4AD5 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:36 +0900 From: Rei Okamoto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version Message-Id: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.62 [ja] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:59:07 -0000 Hello to all, My name is Rei Okamoto posting from Japan. I'm very new to FreeBSD and please pardon and caution me if anything I post is in any way inappropriate. Here's a problem I'm facing right now. I started working for a company this month as a sole engineerer, given all my tasks with virtually no manuals other than IP addresses, IDs and PWs. (Dangerous, but not such a rare case in this country) One of the clients is running the web site using FreeBSD 4.7. Although it is surely the best to renew the server to newest machine and OS, the client is reluctant to do so because of money. So a long story short, because I need to do some testing, I've installed FreeBSD 4.11 to the VirtualBox as a test server in my local PC and got the network connected. I want to build the test server as close to the actual server as possible, such as considering the OS's version 4.11 to be close enough to 4.7, but as I try to install PHP4 with a following command, pkg_add -r php4-4.3.6.tgz I get an error message below. Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.11-release/Latest/php4-4.3.6.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) So you probably can figure out the rest of the story, it is all too old to make a near duplication of the server. Is there any suggestion on what I can do other than convincing the client to renew the server? (which I am doing but already been politely refused) Pardon me for the long message, and thank you in advance for all replies. Thank you, Rei Okamoto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 03:08:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0242F61 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1608FC0C for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F9C17010 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:00:14 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <5084B6BD.5010204@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:00:13 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to list /etc/fstab in new BFSD label? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:08:31 -0000 Aloha, I cant find any How TO on writing the hardware devices into /etc/fstab to mount and find how the DVD and CD players get connected. (This happens to be with a test box FreeBSD 10.* which has worked fine other than that.) The BSD install I understand is also for FreeBSD 9.* as well. fd0, /floppy, acd0 /cdrom, acd1 DVD, do not come up although they are in /dmesg list. Any help would be appreciated. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 03:10:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A814F1E8 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505588FC08 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9M3A5cH017679; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:10:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:10:01 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Rei Okamoto Subject: Re: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version Message-ID: <20121022101001.78d719cd@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> References: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:10:17 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:36 +0900 Rei Okamoto wrote: > One of the clients is running the web site using > FreeBSD 4.7. this is not a real fresh installation. > > Although it is surely the best to renew the server to > newest machine and OS, the client is reluctant to do so > because of money. There is still the option to use a supported version of FreeBSD. You can have a try with 7.4. Some hardware support was taken out with 8. But if 8 works, take 8.3. > > as I try to install PHP4 with a following command, I doubt that you will get this anywhere anymore. > > Is there any suggestion on what I can do > other than convincing the client to renew the server? > (which I am doing but already been politely refused) > Just try a newer FreeBSD version. 7.4 is currently still supported. Of course, it also could be that 9.1 is running on this hardware. This would be perfect. But I do not know if you can get the client's web sites running on a current PHP version. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 03:17:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E07F8C5 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7208FC14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id fm10so1263128wgb.1 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x3RbMRXXuLnqxxsOCjy/DgmFS7LMcJY2ZSQzZwOh+HQ=; b=wpMv/svjVzT6VaDUx46XPWz/MXq/FBTaodvV4FG/1a/tM3uGBMMryNsGMUzrn+zVbo GXTZOIGjC/Orznjvh5XIp0VNl3ZNYyAbx2o1QoDId7dvsEkjA1rudXt/msF4jlgMTwra gvYlTlEibP8Yiksn4qZdLyOskEB8GrZ2peUa6e5qpHDMoZHEf22h0O14H9k79E4eSH+W 4yLlyFZ6FpTC2WZkTfHRbJQLG+QkrmQRsMhUXwplfe/jpQAlxlIiPI49JNB6NNc4fk1V ZWFpkyZMV+J/1CBWite0rA5qeuzwDQ1zc5tCpAtMDSdrGMDecQD5hupRaLZgXBBUo08d hcnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.142.25 with SMTP id h25mr4851778wej.157.1350875840248; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.58.1 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:17:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> References: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:17:20 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7EbSo063LsADvZb5yU8Jywxn_QQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version From: Olivier Nicole To: Rei Okamoto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:17:27 -0000 Dear Rei, > One of the clients is running the web site using > FreeBSD 4.7. >[...] > pkg_add -r php4-4.3.6.tgz > > I get an error message below. > > Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.11-release/Latest/php4-4.3.6.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) I believe that PHP4 (and most of the ports used in the server of your client) are not supported anymore. You would be able to download it from somewhere, there must exist archives, but you'd have to build everything by hand. > Is there any suggestion on what I can do > other than convincing the client to renew the server? > (which I am doing but already been politely refused) 1) build a new system, with new Apache, new PHP, etc. and port the web site of your client to the new system. Let the client test and approve it, an install that on his old hardware. 2) get your boss approve the fact that the server of the client is ou of date and cannot be maintened anymore. Then you charge the client for colocation (electricity and internet) but the client is responsible for the maintenance. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 03:43:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBC26A5 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B7C8FC08 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wc20so2733330obb.13 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0Tlp9XzEZrSXpxRtXJx5h+fFWFx/gSSF+CXQhXOQVlM=; b=SZSQTLy4bf5Pd0YJfF0Oqum1xRNjzpBYb0ngBoJ5PzKzEu+IOEzcUMQhB0Ow/iubnn /rgzkFw8ZUGYyUXvGGTb+ol2+By7qeTO2RyESgxtBXvHDKLETavBksJyqlDRuqkE4ScD 0cwc8EyjXGb4FfjHC8xrN2AburC5fKVa27G1BnvXrQWypjD9N+IUJpeKMoohYaEmQNak t8QPHu9vUAvZhRB6sxrkhunVbZmUWXPbYTJn4lJPBO0/Y5EiaXxqRshxX3Ep/32mnC9j QFH0evEz11Pt8S8lKg5jjJQ8G4vqD8QL0I2ql19ZTS02AbK5OVwA1Qlu12E6HMBGKbof mneA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.86.225 with SMTP id s1mr5839327obz.91.1350877384482; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.80.104 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:43:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> References: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:43:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version From: Adam Vande More To: Rei Okamoto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:43:05 -0000 On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Rei Okamoto wrote: > Hello to all, > > My name is Rei Okamoto posting from Japan. > > I'm very new to FreeBSD and please pardon and caution me > if anything I post is in any way inappropriate. > > Here's a problem I'm facing right now. > > I started working for a company this month as a > sole engineerer, given all my tasks with virtually > no manuals other than IP addresses, IDs and PWs. > (Dangerous, but not such a rare case in this country) > > One of the clients is running the web site using > FreeBSD 4.7. > > Although it is surely the best to renew the server to > newest machine and OS, the client is reluctant to do so > because of money. > > So a long story short, because I need to do some testing, > I've installed FreeBSD 4.11 to the VirtualBox as a > test server in my local PC and got the network connected. > > I want to build the test server as close to the > actual server as possible, such as considering the > OS's version 4.11 to be close enough to 4.7, but > as I try to install PHP4 with a following command, > > pkg_add -r php4-4.3.6.tgz > > I get an error message below. > > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.11-release/Latest/php4-4.3.6.tgz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > So you probably can figure out the rest of the story, > it is all too old to make a near duplication of the server. > > Is there any suggestion on what I can do > other than convincing the client to renew the server? > (which I am doing but already been politely refused) > > Pardon me for the long message, > and thank you in advance for all replies. > You can find an archive of packages released with FreeBSD 4.11 here: ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/4.11-RELEASE/packages/All/ However, you'll find the packages are different than those released with your original version. A move from 4.7 to 4.11 doesn't really gain you much. 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I'm having a very weird problem with a friends Freenas set-up. I'm trying to backup his data before migrating to nas4free or just plain FreeBSD. The setup is as follows: HP Microserver N36. 2BG Mem (1713 MB Usable) (no swap) 4 x 2000GB (ST2000DL003-9VT166 Seagate) drives in a graid5 setup. Initially he had no problems with the setup. Samba share was fine and he populated the raid set with 3TB of data, but somewhere along the line the disk I/O went VERY slow. I initially thought this might be raid related and did some tests but actually found the problem to be on the discs. [root@freenas ~]# diskinfo -c /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4 512 # sectorsize 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. ad:5YD2VEWQ # Disk ident. I/O command overhead: time to read 10MB block 0.250736 sec = 0.012 msec/sector time to read 20480 sectors 79.653738 sec = 3.889 msec/sector calculated command overhead = 3.877 msec/sector [root@freenas ~]# diskinfo -t /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4 512 # sectorsize 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. ad:5YD2VEWQ # Disk ident. Seek times: Full stroke: 250 iter in 124.649884 sec = 498.600 msec Half stroke: 250 iter in 52.112172 sec = 208.449 msec Quarter stroke: 500 iter in 167.991252 sec = 335.983 msec Short forward: 400 iter in 72.027133 sec = 180.068 msec Short backward: 400 iter in 150.708625 sec = 376.772 msec Seq outer: 2048 iter in 5.748059 sec = 2.807 msec Seq inner: 2048 iter in 119.395823 sec = 58.299 msec Transfer rates: outside: 102400 kbytes in 39.207296 sec = 2612 kbytes/sec middle: 102400 kbytes in 113.757181 sec = 900 kbytes/sec inside: 102400 kbytes in 153.438159 sec = 667 kbytes/sec S.M.A.R.T. is not reporting any issues either and the speeds are similar on all the drives. No errors in /var/log either. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Regards Henti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 06:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00A9362 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE118FC08 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988F43CB81; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:55:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9M6ts77002370; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:55:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:55:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: noc@hdk5.net Subject: Re: How to list /etc/fstab in new BFSD label? Message-Id: <20121022085553.3423c1ef.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5084B6BD.5010204@hdk5.net> References: <5084B6BD.5010204@hdk5.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:56:02 -0000 On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:00:13 -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Aloha, > > I cant find any How TO on writing the hardware devices into /etc/fstab > to mount and find how the DVD and CD players get connected. Open the file in your favourite editor and add the lines according to your needs, if this was the question. :-) > (This happens to be with a test box FreeBSD 10.* which has worked fine > other than that.) The BSD install I understand is also for FreeBSD 9.* > as well. > > fd0, /floppy, acd0 /cdrom, acd1 DVD, do not come up although they are > in /dmesg list. I thought FreeBSD would have removed the acd devices in favour of the "SCSI-backed" cd device drivers? If dmesg lists the devices as recognized, the required device files should be present in /dev. Ye olde sysinstall did add them to your first /etc/fstab, but you are free to add whatever you like manually. For the purpose of installation, they shouldn't be needed. And I have to admit that I've never actually seen them in one of the dialogs in the installer - only the hard disk related things are in there. The automatically generated /etc/fstab at least had them listed (for sysinstall, not tested for bsdinstall). However, "modern" HAL + DBUS combinations prefer not to have any media devices listed in /etc/fstab, because they're doing the stuff required on their own. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 10:17:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743BDC7B for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01318FC14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:17:56 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0JAH4chVA6BvH//2dsb2JhbABFwAAEgQiBCIIgAQEEATo/BQsLDQE4FBgxE4d+BbsIjCmFRWADlXCFUjWDO4Z4gwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,629,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="52701807" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([58.6.241.255]) by icp-osb-irony-out5.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2012 18:17:53 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 86211EC8; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:17:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:17:53 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs Message-ID: <20121022101753.GA51392@ozzmosis.com> References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:17:57 -0000 On Sun 2012-10-21 18:10:06 UTC+0100, Arthur Chance (freebsd@qeng-ho.org) wrote: > Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using > it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I > delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running > RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if > that matters. I don't think there's any harm in leaving the pkg_* programs there? Of course if you delete them, a binary upgrade with freebsd-update will most likely put them back. I've switched to pkgng on two machines here. Working well so far, although pkg2ng had some initial problems with the conversion due to some conflicting files that had been installed by different packages... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 10:58:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1934BE4F for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbsd@isgroup.com.ua) Received: from mail.standard.com.ua (mail.isgroup.com.ua [46.229.54.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8598F8FC0A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.11.5] (unused-213.111.71.228.bilink.ua [213.111.71.228] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.standard.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9MAot9G017505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:50:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mbsd@isgroup.com.ua) Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs From: mbsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <50843299.6030407@FreeBSD.org> References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> <50843299.6030407@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:57:34 +0300 Message-ID: <1350903454.9179.25.camel@eva02> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.1 required=9.0 tests=BAYES_00,HELO_MISC_IP, RDNS_NONE,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.isgroup.com.ua X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:58:01 -0000 I have tried it. There's my report ;) Without pkg_*, pkg2ng doesn't work. pkg info shows only himself (pkg-1.0.1). And I have no idea how to register all this stuff which I have already into pkgng database. New [re]installations from ports and directly from pkg work fine. So for new installation it seems to be fine, for old you have to run pkg2ng before you will remove pkg_* binaries. On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 18:36 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/10/2012 18:10, Arthur Chance wrote: > > Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using > > it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I > > delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running > > RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if > > that matters. > > There is no particularly good reason to keep pkg_tools around once > you've made the switch to pkgng. pkgng should provide replacements for > all the pkg_tool functionality and slot into its place quite smoothly. > > However, I'm not sure that there's been adequate testing on a > pkg_tools-free setup, so it is not entirely outside the bounds of > possibility that you might run into some odd problems. If you do, > please report what happens, as that's definitely a bug that needs fixing. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 11:31:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645E39B8 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69228FC16 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9MBUsgI014592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:30:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9MBUsgI014592 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9MBUsgI014592; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <50852E67.9030108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:30:47 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> <50843299.6030407@FreeBSD.org> <1350903454.9179.25.camel@eva02> In-Reply-To: <1350903454.9179.25.camel@eva02> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB0311618E25E67843EEA7976" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:31:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB0311618E25E67843EEA7976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/10/2012 11:57, mbsd wrote: > I have tried it. There's my report ;) >=20 > Without pkg_*, pkg2ng doesn't work. > pkg info shows only himself (pkg-1.0.1). And I have no idea how to > register all this stuff which I have already into pkgng database. Correct. You need pkg_tools to run pkg2ng. But that's the last thing you'll ever need pkg_tools for... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigB0311618E25E67843EEA7976 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCFLm4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyWXwCgh7248If9MSqKlQsWNfQErSSm W5IAn2KSLq1lA0QcCEgS7/b5a9rSSFrD =AQQS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB0311618E25E67843EEA7976-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 11:47:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE30AD6E for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D27F8FC0A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9MBl4Un032056; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:47:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50853238.6060508@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:47:04 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121013 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew clarke Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> <20121022101753.GA51392@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20121022101753.GA51392@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:47:07 -0000 On 10/22/12 11:17, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sun 2012-10-21 18:10:06 UTC+0100, Arthur Chance (freebsd@qeng-ho.org) wrote: > >> Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using >> it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I >> delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running >> RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if >> that matters. > > I don't think there's any harm in leaving the pkg_* programs there? I doubt whether there's any harm either, it's just the principle of not having useless binaries lying around. Partly it's an old (and obsolete) habit developed in the days when the largest disks were a handful of megabytes in size, but it's also good security practice not to install anything that's unnecessary. > Of course if you delete them, a binary upgrade with freebsd-update > will most likely put them back. I always upgrade from source, and cut out unused subsystems with the WITHOUT_* knobs in /etc/src.conf, so that's not going to be a problem. > I've switched to pkgng on two machines here. Working well so far, > although pkg2ng had some initial problems with the conversion due to > some conflicting files that had been installed by different packages... Ditto. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 11:51:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74BCEAD; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753D48FC0C; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9MBppVu032097; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:51:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50853357.4010007@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:51:51 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121013 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> <50843299.6030407@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50843299.6030407@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:51:53 -0000 On 10/21/12 18:36, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/10/2012 18:10, Arthur Chance wrote: >> Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using >> it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I >> delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running >> RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if >> that matters. > > There is no particularly good reason to keep pkg_tools around once > you've made the switch to pkgng. pkgng should provide replacements for > all the pkg_tool functionality and slot into its place quite smoothly. > > However, I'm not sure that there's been adequate testing on a > pkg_tools-free setup, so it is not entirely outside the bounds of > possibility that you might run into some odd problems. If you do, > please report what happens, as that's definitely a bug that needs fixing. Will do. Thanks to all who worked on pkgng. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 12:40:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B225138 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5BC8FC16 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Xlcck2wP5z3DMYS for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:46 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 hp9.esiee.fr 3Xlcck2wP5z3DMYS DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=esiee.fr; s=MAILOUT; t=1350909286; bh=4g7dqeQb6qC9cHewbfe/YCqvWwVCxXbpB//o3stMJLw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=kjVqyCXxYG9hrFQIPYNXBqxiTHgZw/BH1rOC4NJl8BVcIfIU1O/L4pYKYr8j4/w/A P5feQ34gzizGka6lRb3FNtWOuUfzNirOmROXqAgjifQzu/dwoy1LAtg3hWAia2pPLw PRXw4ox8w0ZC5GXKBuCKmeaoHvvFhaRFDhoh2uao= Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 3Xlcck2BHDzYkkp for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Xlcck1WfvzYkkj for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by smtps.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Xlcck1ThDz1btg8 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50853D65.9020106@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:45 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bug in LAGG driver at 9.0 P3 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:40:12 -0000 Hello I have a problem with a server running FreeBSD 9.0-P3 It seems the lagg driver does not works well here is the contents of the /etc/rc.conf file the problem is, only the first interface (bce0) is working in the lagg0 interface , the two others are not "active" ifconfig_bce0="up" ifconfig_bce1="up" ifconfig_bce2="up" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport bce0 laggport bce1 laggport bce2" ipv4_addrs_lagg0="147.215.201.21/24" defaultrouter="147.215.201.1" here is the result of the ifconfig lagg0 command : primail# ifconfig lagg0 lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=c01bb ether 00:9c:02:9a:97:b0 inet 147.215.201.21 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 147.215.201.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto lacp laggport: bce2 flags=0<> laggport: bce1 flags=0<> laggport: bce0 flags=1c thanks for any info/idea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 14:17:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A05F1 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dk-sk@skynet.be) Received: from mailsec009.isp.belgacom.be (mailsec009.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFD38FC0C for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:17:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skynet.be; i=@skynet.be; q=dns/txt; s=securemail; t=1350915466; x=1382451466; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q8sux9j2JsK8CoWk55UwfyHVEajap1Skpn9wzv19BAg=; b=wJptRoe9J7y8kg45Xmy1CJnoSmPrARxNxFSJA3+JAzghfuT18/g3bwz1 NwSYWAXjmfsoZ3E/id2dOln8rJBaew==; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAN5UhVBbttOR/2dsb2JhbAANOMR3QTw0AlkBBwEBsEeTHI8rgyMDlXGTKg Received: from 145.211-182-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([91.182.211.145]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 22 Oct 2012 16:16:31 +0200 Message-ID: <508554C7.10803@skynet.be> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:14:31 +0200 From: ds User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111228 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: supermicro sat2-mv8 sata raid card driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dk-sk@skynet.be X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:17:46 -0000 Hello, are there any plans to provide a driver for the supermicro sat2-mv8 (8-port) sata raid card ? Kind regards, Dirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 19:59:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA821C8F for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0F78FC08 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id EKwD1k009516WCc01KwEPh; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:56:14 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=XOyyuHdE c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=uDupM1arMqMA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=MsytWNsoolAA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=yOJB0Me6gCJYGCxCnE4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TQO6e-0007P0-KK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:56:13 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:56:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201210222056.12232.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Gimp - problem opening images using URI's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:59:26 -0000 Gimp has recently become unable to open images using URI's, e.g.- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- curlew:/home/mike% gimp -c "http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png" Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-mike/fam- (gimp:27650): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=3 GIMP-Error: Opening 'http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png' failed: Could not open 'http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png' for reading: No such file or directory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above is with gimp-app-2.6.12_1,1 compiled from ports with default options running under FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, all ports are up to date and there are no missing dependencies. I had similar problems in the past and managed to "fix" it by adding "--without-gvfs" to the options in the Makefile but the problem reappeared after a recent upgrade to my ports. The port upgrade didn't touch gimp-app so I assume the problem is caused by some dependency which has been upgraded. I've tried rebuilding gimp-app both with and without my Makefile hack and with and without GVFS in the config options but with no success. The error message above is after rebuilding from a freshly downloaded copy of the port to ensure none of my old edits remained and with the default options in make config. It might be significant that the directory /tmp/fam-mike does not exist. I tried creating it but gimp produced an error "Socket directory /tmp/fam-mike has wrong permissions" and promptly deleted the directory. Recreating /tmp/fam-mike with permissions 700 got rid of the "wrong permissions" message but still failed to cure the problem. Google searches haven't come up with anything directly relevant to my problem but do imply that the problem could be related to devel/gamin. Could anyone offer any suggestions on how to go about resolving this? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 20:57:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55DF8CD for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6596D8FC0A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so5783503iea.13 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=Hi/sxsMMrB3dX0QFmKb8paxW4yRvqFGfOvWglEw34yk=; b=Xdwv5YTh7b+7b369CF7i7bu2PybS5kKL+DvWm1BZTNEGsSnJl+l5tZvZT/LXATAFq4 naU3NaejW4a4PaAGz5/ZIBZHocrNKdyZi+wyqQZkCSEySbBANyEMPdvoRp7IoQGGvw3D 0n654L3mr0UrfYFQ4CVnNSPYb65XY/D4xnaLrclFHsbmyHNxfLklMO+EOFQkiqsOjCKs U3jY6D9FPoXSxIoHYQ8tozgS0PlsevHCDAXX6MDa/7jJ+X/X2WvFgo7prrEFEYRkYfXy 2pizF1RlykNJMHo/1CiL4U0BFyysJkOltXb/wRFDgxXNELP6KVpSGp+LXd7NR3Qz33hO rnXg== Received: by 10.50.16.143 with SMTP id g15mr10820927igd.9.1350939428659; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wh5sm23328011igb.17.2012.10.22.13.57.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:57:07 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: graphics card Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:56:56 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RC2; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:57:09 -0000 Hi! I have an old computer but it works good still :). I use KDE and GIMP and I like to use Krita more but a problem is graphics card and it is slow (Gimp is okay). I have ASUS P4P800 mother board and ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics card. I look for some Nvidia AGP cards (opengl 2.0) but the problem is because my motherboard AGP supports +1.5V only. Which gr. card would be better than my but I could use on my motherboard, please? Thank in advance, Mitja -------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 21:01:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE83A19 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26618FC1F for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so5791306iea.13 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=mN+nQzz0pIWUKFmC+E4LQVgYfzbyw7wA2gESk7RorHo=; b=oeKF8FwkCLyGU1wVmP2E56UqSozVuzh6P3M2/+xoaztnsXAuiQMn2UnRoL8UAJPC5r jq7U0aZ2sx7aVOaOjAs/F4aRklDyBdL6j1RTEB0rXXD/Fs3NsmGQjKvNVxwXa/VJIxTe DiAq8w8H2ulzWRVYYIvzRlIxMAbuYO32fB5LJW1DDu5af5EvPMVT6fM0D+NuiL9V0m4e C3fCTmHED/QyfEuxiRD8iqT9b9C7DQdkfAugTymICzWsydiVZqDiwmSlqRgy6RlgUQoW MSyUEcj1LAOv1WlUdCr9cE0lkKZPrI6p5AGTbjtr+bM1jaiF7FtEhlDzM14iBKZ26O7a XzIA== Received: by 10.50.40.133 with SMTP id x5mr17935608igk.32.1350939673423; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm23360519ign.5.2012.10.22.14.01.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: license Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:01:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RC2; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210221601.04031.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:01:14 -0000 Again me.... Last time I try to make some T-shirts which I have on my redbubble page. It is not a big nmoney, I didn't sell anything just one card :) but I like to make a T-shirt design with Beastie on it too. Do I need a permission for using Beastie or it is free or I cannot use. Thank you. Mitja -------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 21:09:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE79FBD for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gardnerbell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8238FC1A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so5808594iea.13 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vhan/QZYj1pq+amkoi7J73lCWA9F8RMQFa7UX5L3Hq4=; b=v+OWA5NIoEM4nXpNTO0EC+fS3Ps+7zYEFcX9alo8CU80/G3IXd2s2HqDCyXAXYlMZe nBbCUc6YVqrQqkzyrsEo2/giFoNwya5udOQIVhcNIKnHIducaGg6QadVFLc57MyhAckw 3r/eCIynA8GjAYe2f0qKZwe61NcGe9LYU7FLUxzV9v4UP2ib11SLi6cc4GFEtWaAH0JN iz9Left3pUn6Tnn9+fJvag18bC0Kk84Nc/jZNfaxfXXE/SdzO1ENIxvKg39UIMtZzzSG w3m86xe893BDm/v5/+vAfrWh8G5HNARcF3qcvPpZIeuFggq0KY5S+CCTLEyMLTfVJhHb Dvhw== Received: by 10.50.53.170 with SMTP id c10mr10917672igp.45.1350940170153; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([69.165.173.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id az4sm9547673igb.2.2012.10.22.14.09.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5085B602.9090005@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:09:22 -0400 From: Gardner Bell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ajtiM Subject: Re: graphics card References: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:09:31 -0000 On 22/10/2012 4:56 PM, ajtiM wrote: > Hi! > > I have an old computer but it works good still :). I use KDE and GIMP and I > like to use Krita more but a problem is graphics card and it is slow (Gimp is > okay). > I have ASUS P4P800 mother board and ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics card. I look > for some Nvidia AGP cards (opengl 2.0) but the problem is because my > motherboard AGP supports +1.5V only. > Which gr. card would be better than my but I could use on my motherboard, > please? > > Thank in advance, > > Mitja > -------- > http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa Maybe the Radeon HD 4670 would be a good card for you to look at. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 21:34:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C899E8 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E28FC14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so3262759iag.13 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=1Mg9HG1EOicTlkxM1r0PYia5Ti8//lcgT0Xw7CbVM/s=; b=yjXo6TFqgOnUPNbEZixTUTQXNpzNlzTcMb9aXZItA+e4JFXI33Wnx0SjFisETOfpnC IatyERwk0KkjEYBcmOjWDFiCJbOlhw9sFxHCqQtSXEplbwHuOh/x9eb7cmlwj+TuyDQN ERKB+PhTt8nvQTbaliDRE2tSdz1KgToeFPq5iFXAVvz6leO2u7yyb8hUxerBL4UmkQSQ qYjaDAs9q1gK676qmmziNxT+pELguXQTR5J0ppOCOIsquXke0xycmpF5ja0zH8TeRz6X AHufKxHs7azCDSF1Yi8McnHRk6jHuhhJGEUliDf3/fXSvHlswI7OwOSYsMPdo9j6C4FV oH0g== Received: by 10.50.47.201 with SMTP id f9mr10623381ign.44.1350941677672; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xn10sm22645569igb.4.2012.10.22.14.34.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: Gardner Bell Subject: Re: graphics card Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:34:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RC2; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) References: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> <5085B602.9090005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5085B602.9090005@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210221634.27147.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:34:38 -0000 On Monday 22 October 2012 16:09:22 Gardner Bell wrote: > On 22/10/2012 4:56 PM, ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I have an old computer but it works good still :). I use KDE and GIMP and > > I like to use Krita more but a problem is graphics card and it is slow > > (Gimp is okay). > > I have ASUS P4P800 mother board and ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics card. I > > look for some Nvidia AGP cards (opengl 2.0) but the problem is because > > my motherboard AGP supports +1.5V only. > > Which gr. card would be better than my but I could use on my motherboard, > > please? > > > > Thank in advance, > > > > Mitja > > -------- > > http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa > > Maybe the Radeon HD 4670 would be a good card for you to look at. > Looks good. I will need a power supply too (400W or 500W) but price is not bad. Mitja -------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 22:23:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06104E5A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B448FC16 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.143] (wsip-70-166-88-164.sd.sd.cox.net [70.166.88.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A27773F188B for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:22:59 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:23:07 -0000 On 10/21/2012 07:32 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: > >> On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >>> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? >> >> I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article >> or a discussion where this issue is described ? > > The GPT backup partition tables goes at the end of a disk, the same > place gmirror(8) and other GEOM modules keep metadata. If GPT > partitions are created inside a mirror, the backup GPT table is no > longer at the end of the disk. Hiroki Sato created a patch which fixed > the gptboot complaints, but there was concern about the nonstandard > location of the backup table. > > At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). Warren, I've been reading your article on formatting disks in FreeBSD: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html It's a great description of using gpart to create GPT partitions, and using fdisk and bsdlabel to create MBR partitions. Would you still recommend this method, using fdisk and bsdlabel, for MRB setup? Do you have any docs on setting up MBR using gpart, to allign for 4K sector size drives? Thank you for your advice! johnea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 22:54:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786EFD3A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1529A8FC0C for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9MMsQx9013338; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:54:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9MMsPDm013335; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:54:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:54:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd@johnea.net Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? In-Reply-To: <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> Message-ID: References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:54:26 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:54:27 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > On 10/21/2012 07:32 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: >> >>> On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >>>> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of >>>> creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? >>> >>> I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article >>> or a discussion where this issue is described ? >> >> The GPT backup partition tables goes at the end of a disk, the same >> place gmirror(8) and other GEOM modules keep metadata. If GPT >> partitions are created inside a mirror, the backup GPT table is no >> longer at the end of the disk. Hiroki Sato created a patch which fixed >> the gptboot complaints, but there was concern about the nonstandard >> location of the backup table. >> >> At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). > > I've been reading your article on formatting disks in FreeBSD: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > It's a great description of using gpart to create GPT partitions, and using > fdisk and bsdlabel to create MBR partitions. Thanks! > Would you still recommend this method, using fdisk and bsdlabel, for MRB > setup? For drives with 512-byte blocks, they are equivalent. Only gpart can align the bsdlabel partitions to 4K. > Do you have any docs on setting up MBR using gpart, to allign for 4K sector > size drives? This is a copy from the update of the gmirror section I'm planning to commit to the Handbook. For a single drive, replace mirror/gm0 with just the drive name, like ada4. # create the MBR and add a FreeBSD slice gpart create -s MBR mirror/gm0 gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 # create the bsdlabel partitions in slice 1 (s1) gpart create -s BSD mirror/gm0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 2g mirror/gm0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 4g mirror/gm0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 2g mirror/gm0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 1g mirror/gm0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 # put bootcode on the MBR and mark the first slice active gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr mirror/gm0 gpart set -a active -i 1 mirror/gm0 # put bootcode on the bsdlabel gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot mirror/gm0s1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 23:40:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A189C7 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolai777@kerek.myjino.ru) Received: from srv24-s-st.jino.ru (srv24-s-st.jino.ru [81.177.6.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6988FC14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 95-27-17-42.broadband.corbina.ru (95-27-17-42.broadband.corbina.ru [95.27.17.42]) (Authenticated sender: nikolai777@kerek.myjino.ru) by srv24-s-st.jino.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14311DF13BB for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:41:39 +0400 (MSK) From: "infomagz" Subject: =?utf-8?B?0J/QvtC50LzQsNC5INGB0LLQvtC5INC60YPRiCE=?= To: "questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: infomagz Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:41:24 +0400 Message-Id: <20121022234139.14311DF13BB@srv24-s-st.jino.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:40:57 -0000 =EF=BB=BF=D0=9E=D0=B1=D0=B7=D0=BE=D1=80 =D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=B8= =D1=85 =D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B9=D0=BD =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B8=D0= =BD=D0=BE =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B8! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 02:10:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C17C9CA for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0632F8FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9N2AAmf010142; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:10:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:10:10 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: ajtiM Subject: Re: license Message-ID: <20121023091010.014300f0@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201210221601.04031.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201210221601.04031.lumiwa@gmail.com> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:10:14 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:01:03 -0500 ajtiM wrote: > Again me.... > > Last time I try to make some T-shirts which I have on my redbubble > page. It is not a big nmoney, I didn't sell anything just one card :) > but I like to make a T-shirt design with Beastie on it too. Do I need > a permission for using Beastie or it is free or I cannot use. > you can find out more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon Marshall Kirk McKusick is the copyright holder. Just address him directly. Erich > Thank you. > > Mitja > -------- > http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 02:11:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83797A7E for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466448FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so6184804iea.13 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:11:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=piq9WaalDZiXuHv6bIcAgT6OJaWF/s50FsftpgepEBI=; b=A10UMXTZD/a44vRAkzByQtkSTyNqU5hGn15+mgbT8RbZsp8uIA1NVId7HXL9T74WE+ x6+hGYvDFacZ1/JcctUqpgZttme6dHPuAkDitiP9PxIjDkonVKhbCISPtGLaRc6y0g35 W/79L/oz+Fpt3D981Tdthn0BUujDg0p8/xtBtPdcrHJDBnmS/3Rjq0C4w0S6YueDMmgR CH+R0w+XqQjYe1AbkvHxjWO0qfenpV6xOWRywTkW7+nkKxKyQj5BOXfjXdF+OCIxw9ph Sk09euEofj//nFTET2gHmiVAIMWuyf+t2O4AIZbr8k4cTgtSEC7ICxzcimcgF+YjR3VJ Db+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.150.175 with SMTP id uj15mr18244595igb.52.1350958266562; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.101.164 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:11:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201210222056.12232.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <201210222056.12232.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:11:06 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gimp - problem opening images using URI's From: Alexandr Alexeev To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:11:07 -0000 Could you trace gimp using truss utility and upload an output somewhere? On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Mike Clarke wrote: > > Gimp has recently become unable to open images using URI's, e.g.- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > curlew:/home/mike% gimp -c "http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png" > Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-mike/fam- > > (gimp:27650): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=3 > > GIMP-Error: Opening 'http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png' failed: > Could not open 'http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png' for > reading: No such file or directory > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The above is with gimp-app-2.6.12_1,1 compiled from ports with default options > running under FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, all ports are up to date and there are no > missing dependencies. > > I had similar problems in the past and managed to "fix" it by > adding "--without-gvfs" to the options in the Makefile but the problem > reappeared after a recent upgrade to my ports. The port upgrade didn't touch > gimp-app so I assume the problem is caused by some dependency which has been > upgraded. > > I've tried rebuilding gimp-app both with and without my Makefile hack and with > and without GVFS in the config options but with no success. > > The error message above is after rebuilding from a freshly downloaded copy of > the port to ensure none of my old edits remained and with the default options > in make config. > > It might be significant that the directory /tmp/fam-mike does not exist. I > tried creating it but gimp produced an error "Socket directory /tmp/fam-mike > has wrong permissions" and promptly deleted the directory. > Recreating /tmp/fam-mike with permissions 700 got rid of the "wrong > permissions" message but still failed to cure the problem. > > Google searches haven't come up with anything directly relevant to my problem > but do imply that the problem could be related to devel/gamin. > > Could anyone offer any suggestions on how to go about resolving this? > > -- > Mike Clarke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best regards, Alex Alexeev http://twitter.com/afiskon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 02:32:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A08CFF7 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from okamoto@mix-net.co.jp) Received: from mix-ict.net (mix-ict.net [202.239.126.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C474F8FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mix-ict.net (Postfix, from userid 5001) id E6BD85D4AD9; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:32:09 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mix-ict.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=13.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from [192.168.5.152] (220x151x200x91.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp [220.151.200.91]) by mix-ict.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF5D5D4A61; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:32:04 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:32:15 +0900 From: Rei Okamoto To: Adam Vande More , Olivier Nicole , Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version In-Reply-To: References: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> Message-Id: <20121023113214.0CE2.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.62 [ja] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:32:17 -0000 Hi Adam, Olivier, Erich, and the rest, Thank you for your replies. It sounds like the best thing to do is to migrate the contents to a server with new versions of all softwares. I'll make further discussions with my boss about this matter. Thank you again, Rei Okamoto > Hello to all, > > My name is Rei Okamoto posting from Japan. > > I'm very new to FreeBSD and please pardon and caution me > if anything I post is in any way inappropriate. > > Here's a problem I'm facing right now. > > I started working for a company this month as a > sole engineerer, given all my tasks with virtually > no manuals other than IP addresses, IDs and PWs. > (Dangerous, but not such a rare case in this country) > > One of the clients is running the web site using > FreeBSD 4.7. > > Although it is surely the best to renew the server to > newest machine and OS, the client is reluctant to do so > because of money. > > So a long story short, because I need to do some testing, > I've installed FreeBSD 4.11 to the VirtualBox as a > test server in my local PC and got the network connected. > > I want to build the test server as close to the > actual server as possible, such as considering the > OS's version 4.11 to be close enough to 4.7, but > as I try to install PHP4 with a following command, > > pkg_add -r php4-4.3.6.tgz > > I get an error message below. > > Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.11-release/Latest/php4-4.3.6.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > So you probably can figure out the rest of the story, > it is all too old to make a near duplication of the server. > > Is there any suggestion on what I can do > other than convincing the client to renew the server? > (which I am doing but already been politely refused) > > Pardon me for the long message, > and thank you in advance for all replies. > > > Thank you, > Rei Okamoto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 02:32:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3613910A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37D18FC14 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:32:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiYXAF4BhlA6BvH//2dsb2JhbABEg3+BLLsnAQOBCoEIgmFnTRhNh3oMmnuRB5BUjCIsAoJUgkNgA5VwhVI1ijODAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,633,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="50942449" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([58.6.241.255]) by icp-osb-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 10:32:46 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7944DFDA; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:32:46 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:32:46 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/bin/lint - bitrot? Message-ID: <20121023023246.GA40948@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:32:49 -0000 Is /usr/bin/lint still useful to anyone? Here, even the simplest of C programs does not parse without errors: $ cat null.c int main(void) { return 0; } $ lint null.c null.c: lint: cannot find llib-lc.ln Lint pass2: $ uname -r 9.1-RC2 I'm not sure how to generate llib-lc.ln. Evidently this issue has existed for at least 12 years if I'm reading this PR correctly: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18326 Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 02:59:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEB3FD for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D35F8FC0A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9N2xRcr021372; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:59:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:59:26 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Rei Okamoto Subject: Re: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version Message-ID: <20121023095926.4fa3eae8@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121023113214.0CE2.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> References: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> <20121023113214.0CE2.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adam Vande More , Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:59:40 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:32:15 +0900 Rei Okamoto wrote: > Hi Adam, Olivier, Erich, and the rest, > > Thank you for your replies. > > It sounds like the best thing to do is to migrate > the contents to a server with new versions of all softwares. > this is the ideal solution. But do not forget that it could be possible to run a supported FreeBSD version on the current hardware. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 03:07:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5B56BE for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868D38FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:07:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am4JAEQJhlA6BvH//2dsb2JhbABEhSu7JwSBCoEIgiABAQQBOj8FCwsNORQYMROHfgWsEJBSjCKFRWADlXCFUjWKM4MDgUYk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,633,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="51326023" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([58.6.241.255]) by icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 11:07:37 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DCE91FE2; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:07:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:07:36 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Rei Okamoto Subject: Re: Question regarding a server with an unsupported old version Message-ID: <20121023030736.GA41039@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121022113136.7BB4.59217E37@mix-net.co.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:07:40 -0000 On Mon 2012-10-22 11:31:36 UTC+0900, Rei Okamoto (okamoto@mix-net.co.jp) wrote: > I want to build the test server as close to the > actual server as possible, such as considering the > OS's version 4.11 to be close enough to 4.7, but > as I try to install PHP4 with a following command, Like others have said, if at all possible you should at least try to upgrade to supported versions of FreeBSD & PHP 4. FreeBSD 7.x should have similar system requirements as 4.7, except for needing more disk space. Having said that though, support for FreeBSD 7.4 is estimated to end in February 2013, just four months away, and I can't see any signs on the FreeBSD web site that there is a 7.5 release being planned. So perhaps switching to 8.3 is the more sensible option if your hardware will allow it. I should point out that it should be possible to use 'pkg_create -a' on the existing system to create tarballs of every installed package, then install FreeBSD 4.7 under VirtualBox, copy the tarballs to the virtual machine, then install all of them with 'pkg_add *.tgz'. It may also be possible to use rsync to synchronise the VM's filesystem with the actual server machine, although I think rsync will need to be installed on both. Also, sshd will probably need to be temporarily enabled on the original server if it's not already. There is also the 'dump' and 'restore' programs in FreeBSD that could be used for cloning a FreeBSD system over a network, although I'm not at all familiar with their usage. Is there any particular reason you went with 4.11? Is it because it was the last of the 4.x series? (I don't recall offhand.) I vaguely recall there were some ABI changes over the lifetime of the 4.x series which meant binaries built for, say, FreeBSD 4.0 would not run under later versions (4.8 perhaps). I only mention this because you might encounter problems running binaries built for FreeBSD 4.7 under FreeBSD 4.11. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 04:26:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F554285 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C62618FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15970 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2012 04:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.180.213.209) by smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.230) with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 04:20:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:20:07 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:26:51 -0000 apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. here is the problem as best I can remember it. let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? to find the answer I had to find the relative difference {22 - 8} and then do something with the difference. this isn't any kind of trick or "advanced-cognition"; I just thought it was clever [and exact]. it obviously works for finding the abs() results in subtraction. it's something I found on the web and swipes and save the prose discussion. BZZT: Lost, :-( if this seems dumb, I plead guilty! im asking here because -questions is the sharpest list on the net. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 04:31:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DEB390 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AF38FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 16so2778815wgi.31 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:31:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ku65+sJQMFxbz+e7g2Y6HWTIYjyOpjRcJItuvih/FLI=; b=NCJHQm4dixRk81VBaW1r+z1K+1jX8PLt+5KYv7az6F4nz0ORW6+USlkMYdOZtSsOtC 9mw0v58Kfsfpp0aw6tyJy7c1G/0cEobc5itwmzlVBFKgKxxuxa+kLD58MPspA9C5WNjo rlaNV5CwmWCaDJC782jNZ1ECa7yyS6Rotxuf4u2ILUjSqnnKSnzEwqALzV6pbgQYwD7w u8vyE/dMXbc89u19jFSqoJlO34rMEWEzr+OzNq+LxosnMzNRmOgl0u6Srv4FAlOGbgiR Lbz6x7H2aw66Q/cLhTTZqb/5vp17J5PFluXuIceODj2ML4n4DYjdyvFmeCRnVBop+Bwj ieeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.53.204 with SMTP id g54mr5876394wec.122.1350966678985; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.58.1 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:31:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:18 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yi4ao1Ajl_A921TGyzX0mmx7TZg Message-ID: Subject: Re: way way off topic From: Olivier Nicole To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:31:20 -0000 Gary, On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? That should be 22/8=2.75 Jim is 275% older than John Olivier > to find the answer I had to find the relative difference {22 - 8} and then > do something with the difference. this isn't any kind of trick or > "advanced-cognition"; I just thought it was clever [and exact]. it obviously > works for finding the abs() results in subtraction. it's something I found on > the web and swipes and save the prose discussion. BZZT: Lost, :-( > > if this seems dumb, I plead guilty! > > im asking here because -questions is the sharpest list on the net. > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 04:34:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ADA453 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E21A8FC0A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9N4YauB010779; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:34:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:34:36 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121023113436.6748c811@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:34:49 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:20:07 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C > program, but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet > my last cent that I had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that > either. > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > to find the answer I had to find the relative difference {22 - 8} and > then do something with the difference. this isn't any kind of trick > or "advanced-cognition"; I just thought it was clever [and exact]. > it obviously works for finding the abs() results in subtraction. > it's something I found on the web and swipes and save the prose > discussion. BZZT: Lost, :-( > It seems that I am also lost. What should abs() do here? I would multiply the age of john and the difference with 100 and then divide the result to get the percentage. Or did I get lost here? > if this seems dumb, I plead guilty! > > im asking here because -questions is the sharpest list on the net. > Are you sure? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 06:33:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E75F8C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales4@peak-pcb.com) Received: from mx36.dns.com.cn (mx36.dns.com.cn [119.254.72.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A94C8FC0C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73037 invoked by uid 88); 23 Oct 2012 06:33:18 -0000 X-DNS-MID: mx36.dns.com.cn/1350973998/33/1201833 X-DNS-FLAG: ------ Received: from unknown (HELO 201103201203) (116.24.22.174) by mx36.dns.com.cn with SMTP; 23 Oct 2012 06:33:18 -0000 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RFQ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:33:18 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "sales4@peak-pcb.com" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:33:26 -0000 RGVhciBTaXJzLA0KDQpJJ20gTWFyaWEgV2VuZyBjb21pbmcgZnJvbSBQRUFLIFBDQiBMSU1JVEVE IC5XZSBleHBvcnRpbmcgUENCKHByaW50ZWQgY2lyY3VpdCBib2FyZHMpIHdpdGggZ29vZCBxdWFs aXR5IGZvciBuZWFybHkgMTAgeWVhcnMgaW4gU2hlbnpoZW4sIENoaW5hLg0KDQpXZSBwcm9kdWNl IGFuZCBzZWxsIHRoZSBQQ0JzIGZvciBtYW55IHllYXJzLg0KDQpPdXIgc2VydmljZSBpbmNsdWRl OiANCjEuIFBDQiBwcm9kdWN0aW9uDQpleDpzYW1wbGUgYW5kIG1hc3MgcHJvZHVjdGlvbi4NCjIu IFBDQiBjb3B5DQozLiBSaWdpZCBQQ0INCjQuIEFsdW1pbnVtIFBDQi4NCg0KVGhlIGJvYXJkcyBp bmNsdWRlOiBzaW5nbGUgc2lkZWQsZG91YmxlIHNpZGVkLDIgbGF5ZXIsNCBsYXllciw2IGxheWVy Lg0KDQpGYXN0IGRlbGl2ZXJ5OiANClNhbXBsZXMgJiBzbWFsbCBwcm9kdWN0aW9uOiA0fjUgZGF5 c6OodXJnZW50IGRlbGl2ZXJ5IDJ+MyBkYXlzKQ0KTWFzcyBwcm9kdWN0aW9uOiA3fjggZGF5cy4N Cg0KV2UgYXJlIHNvIGdsYWQgdG8gaGVhciB5b3VyIG5ld3MseW91ciBpbnF1aXJ5IGlzIG91ciBH b2RkZXNzLg0KDQpXZSBhcmUgd2FpdGluZyBmb3IgeW91ciBmZWVkYmFjay4NCg0KSGF2ZSBhIG5p Y2UgZGF5IQ0KDQpCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsDQoNCg0KTWFyaWEgIFdlbmcNCg0KUEVBSyBQQ0IgTElN SVRFRA0KVGVsOiArODYtMDc1NS0yOTEwMDg3OQ0KRmF4IDorODYtMDc1NS0yOTEwOTE4MiAgDQpF bWFpbDogc2FsZXM0KGF0KXBlYWtwY2IuY29tIChQbGVhc2UgcmVwbHkgdG8gdGhpcyBlbWFpbCBh ZGRyZXNzKQ0Kc2t5cGU6IHBlYWtwY2JsdGQ0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 06:34:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F71E6 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45E88FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D96D3CCDD; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:34:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9N6YXoo002156; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:34:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:34:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Subject: Re: graphics card Message-Id: <20121023083433.7f114e04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:34:36 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:56:56 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > Hi! > > I have an old computer but it works good still :). I use KDE and GIMP and I > like to use Krita more but a problem is graphics card and it is slow (Gimp is > okay). > I have ASUS P4P800 mother board and ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics card. I look > for some Nvidia AGP cards (opengl 2.0) but the problem is because my > motherboard AGP supports +1.5V only. > Which gr. card would be better than my but I could use on my motherboard, > please? I've been using an ATI Radeon 9200 (RV250) with XFree86's and later X.org's "ati" driver without any problems. Even shooters did play very well. I've also been using Krita and Gimp on that system (Pentium 4 based mainboard), running FreeBSD 4, 5 and 7. There are several options for X you can tweak, and the native "ati" driver is excellent for the older ATI models. Make sure you have DRM/DRI working, and check for GL support (glxinfo, glxgears, xvinfo; install xlockmore and see "xlock -nolock -mode fire"). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 06:52:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF274B0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560DE8FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168843CAEA; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:52:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9N6qnum002194; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:52:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:52:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-Id: <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:52:51 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:18 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Gary, > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, > > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I > > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. > > > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > That should be 22/8=2.75 > Jim is 275% older than John Jim is 175% _older_. Why? Because 100% older means 16 years, as 100% refers to 8 years (8+8=16, 200% older is 8+8+8=24). Percentage is always a reference to something else, in this question, Jim's age in relation to John's. The word "older" means "adding percentage", refering to the base value of 8, "divided in 100 parts" (floating point considerations aside), to finally reach the value 22. If the question would be different, say, "What's the percentage of John's age regarding Jim's age?" In that case, it would be 8/22=0.3636 being 36%. Obvious: John's age is approximately 1/3 of Jim's age. The easiest way for creating the proper calculation is to refer to the equation percentage * 100 percentage value = ---------------- base value and resolve it to whatever is required. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 07:22:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127A5F37 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0B48FC16 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q9N7LuuO001425 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q9N7LuBL001424; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03335; Tue, 23 Oct 12 00:19:30 PDT Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:19:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kline@thought.org, olivier.nicole@cs.ait.ac.th Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-Id: <5086a75b.PlTC1pdjbP5atD0Y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:22:02 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in > > a std C program, but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. > > I would have bet my last cent that I had a summary Somewhere, > > but cant find that either. > > > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > That should be 22/8=2.75 > Jim is 275% older than John No, a subtraction is needed if we wish to use the term "older". Suppose Jim were 9; the above approach would give 9/8 => 1.125 so Jim is 113% older than John, which is clearly wrong (although one could correctly say in that case that John's age is 113% of Jim's age). I think the OP is probably looking for ((22 - 8) * 100 + (8/2)) / 8 which will give the answer directly as a correctly-rounded integral percentage. (For a fractional percentage, use floats instead of ints and omit the (8/2) part -- but in that case you probably also want to express the ages in something other than whole years.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 08:02:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B05D7CE for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B728FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A7225592; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:56:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9N7uZoN002430; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:56:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:56:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Subject: Re: license Message-Id: <20121023095635.47e28f5c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201210221601.04031.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201210221601.04031.lumiwa@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:02:07 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:01:03 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > Again me.... > > Last time I try to make some T-shirts which I have on my redbubble page. It is > not a big nmoney, I didn't sell anything just one card :) but I like to make a > T-shirt design with Beastie on it too. Do I need a permission for using > Beastie or it is free or I cannot use. The required information (including the proper copyright and useful contact information) can be found here: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/images.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 08:28:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4771FC for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack.mclauren@yahoo.com) Received: from nm40-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E8C8FC0A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 08:28:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.192] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 08:28:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 08:28:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 985621.75425.bm@omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 50714 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2012 08:28:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350980911; bh=z7jBGnO+zNegCzOAtmsIaC7kXVotxZii+CnX5nwF570=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0ogsZoIVsgYSNUjONZng3EvhukuZtkMGE9C4Dir1eBCdDWKjAQGf390gWATlFslav54Hu520fXQnTojsgcE0H1sBl2DOR6dBP0WNiC1G65dRzqE+/0+Dvr33IfFfSY5kdFrk7qlWnqXN8IUlrDELlkYB+mY8jBdaDYa82yKQNIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eu0eL2MJzTrGRiV6MHpX3kn6cChxfUoLWQpMQNUVqr57YJGQRgyjQa+qixmXLRJhD5kLGWTFlSGaNWwbo1KyShYlxAJskR3H6m4sFQpTag37BOQYkhj3xNT6vN1IDE1FYon0DVkga40Av+q6YeFHPL1U6ZJeX+e7UDXKGda0UWA=; X-YMail-OSG: j1Elt4oVM1nuLvwwjlAe6g_wx70_vePpVS4GVUIqpHBwYmY _oKsXUL.EIEyekmip9UKMRLdXr_f5apjNQhJA9SvqCNBtBcha4sLrz114EsT blP4xHWcgfd2GOobG3Fu23FuUsAq5R22yXCZIgzaQD9F5mchM1SlkoNkgA6E z.RrOu6KipUE2jJJs7zeM2CEBFKoo5FVUx6QupO5mawyYECU5h9S4401fG9P qBv3Ew4xe73eM57lo70y4Wrk8fkf.Q6dBJ7i6jMno0haMa0AlH2NeO4nTFmV lrGYH6sIjXj3HxEN4mO1hh.sf3hE85kWQSjolh77HnJ56Y29vDS6AdrkM9ko NG1tTZc77RzeybFirg_RYTGAblp4H.HZhD4.sfL5uVVHf3FOUL4DLcgQ1etP P3Rw3ANg3H6xjxxOg1wa_SeFW.T3Pr8IsuNcOqN37gXCv.BaWFGKsOuNgX3g DL_b_Q7smClTklGSj0o9vJR6cVAGPiBAwEtiWBUA2ZDI- Received: from [89.165.120.140] by web126002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:28:31 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, aGnCoAoKaSBoYXZlIGEgcHJvYmxlbSB3aXRoIG5hbm9ic2QuIHRoZXJlIGFyZSBzb21ldGhpbmdzIHdoaWNoIGRvbid0IGhhdmUgV0lUSE9VVCBrbm9icywgaG93IGNhbiBpIGNvbnRyb2wgdGhlc2UgZGlyZWN0b3JpZXMgbWFudWFsbHkgPyBob3cgY2FuIGkgYWRkIGEgY29zdHVtZSBmdW5jdGlvbiB0byBuYW5vYnNkLnNoIHRvIGRvIHRoaXMgPz8KCnRoYW5rcyAuLi4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1350980911.20647.YahooMailNeo@web126002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jack Mc Lauren Subject: nanobsd configuration To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Mc Lauren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:28:39 -0000 hi=A0=0A=0Ai have a problem with nanobsd. there are somethings which don't = have WITHOUT knobs, how can i control these directories manually ? how can = i add a costume function to nanobsd.sh to do this ??=0A=0Athanks ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 08:38:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0524C7 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7178FC0A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n9so4420006oag.13 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:37:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kb2u0ypOzN0ocMzmp4wtivJB18jQgR+nhXRkMe2ktyE=; b=PD0M9n1JPl6fe7mpB7ZufS+0LCpzwC6p6PNW24RG954Oi7Pma1mXz0EICGqU2DzwR6 Gq/bK6MznxyePui5RbubKxylFtZC5cltmnq5QAryMDZJWhENnoQeWclJOh5zD8P1/xMz ehZ7fpGcRucncLQz7DbQGwIYXuqdx/MvqiIi9qlcVxNJpO1wDeW1DfXx2Zo7YKsep95E ifvpZlchaF56kC2buR0tEMXvniI2x81RoHjA+fUuOuMrcu5T3u0gcGJyz7vNIH4ibyb8 rAzrphJ5N5ZFqsF5mzjPvLNs2CKR6O5OA4CJCjGSJ9gaVtsSVXKDkNV2qt65A+7+ybyR VYKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.21.142 with SMTP id v14mr9313982obe.46.1350981479838; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.37.194 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:37:59 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: mfi driver at FreeBSD 8.2 From: Omer Faruk SEN To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:38:00 -0000 Hi, I remember someone sending a bug report about mfi driver on FreeBSD 8.2 Can I see the list of these bugs? Couldn't find any email about it. (I remember i have read but can't find it ) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 08:49:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDE47ED for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090E78FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9N8nOZ7073117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:49:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9N8nOZ7073117 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9N8nOZ7073117; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <50865A06.9060209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:49:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mfi driver at FreeBSD 8.2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA621F862A6FC1079FBE62EB6" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:49:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA621F862A6FC1079FBE62EB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/10/2012 09:37, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > I remember someone sending a bug report about mfi driver on FreeBSD 8.2= >=20 > Can I see the list of these bugs? Couldn't find any email about it. (I > remember i have read but can't find it ) Sure. Like this you mean?: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=3D&severity=3D&p= riority=3D&class=3D&state=3D&sort=3Dnone&text=3Dmfi&responsible=3D&multit= ext=3D&originator=3D&release=3D To get that, use the form here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi and enter 'mfi' into the 'Text in single-line fields' box and then click on the 'Query PRs' button. You might need to play with some of the other fields in that form in order to find exactly the right PR. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:02:41 -0000 Hello I cannot get the lagg driver to work properly at 9.0 the Cisco switch is well configured to support LACP no problem on that side it supports another Linux server with two aggregated eth ports that works well. here is the config of the FreeBSD 9.0-P3 server ifconfig_bce0="up" ifconfig_bce1="up" ifconfig_bce2="up" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport bce0 laggport bce1 laggport bce2" ipv4_addrs_lagg0="147.215.201.21/24" defaultrouter="147.215.201.1" showing the lagg configuration give the following , only one ethernet port is active. ifconfig lagg0 lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=c01bb ether 00:9c:02:9a:97:b0 inet 147.215.201.21 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 147.215.201.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto lacp laggport: bce2 flags=0<> laggport: bce1 flags=0<> laggport: bce0 flags=1c Thanks for any info/idea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 11:24:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C883314 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09908FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9NBOhNh035273; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:24:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50867E7B.7050704@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:24:43 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121013 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Mc Lauren Subject: Re: nanobsd configuration References: <1350980911.20647.YahooMailNeo@web126002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1350980911.20647.YahooMailNeo@web126002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:24:52 -0000 On 10/23/12 09:28, Jack Mc Lauren wrote: > hi > > i have a problem with nanobsd. there are somethings which don't have WITHOUT knobs, > how can i control these directories manually ? how can i add a costume function to > nanobsd.sh to do this ?? How about something along the lines of cust_clean () { rm -rf ${NANO_WORLDIR}/path/to/unwanted } customize_cmd cust_clean in your nanobsd config file? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 11:37:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836216C8 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack.mclauren@yahoo.com) Received: from nm36-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6F38FC0C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 11:37:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.195] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 11:37:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 11:37:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 757969.92809.bm@omp1053.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 98850 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2012 11:37:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350992239; bh=N2p/Hc5mERkq/2AlcmhoKbdKBR7dajwtg5i/XWPwje8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nuKPB92WQMQjYTy3JUZhiD/ZMF3CQD98Hji/ng8qtXwLwY37CUX5Q2cHtUOf7iooqKe1nPHnBLSDcfALkEmbaS9Egil6YG79cHrJ6ol2UFrv5f1aXTKx0rP5Y3N8pzcXMcTeIOxZAeXLsTu21+bhVMWAiq4g7TaozPWNYJqDzxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tbp4/SN5kBs+3ptKNeigRJRLot6QwNMnutsoOC5LhIrQrfHePgSZ/dovCRLwwXis+RroKDx4DQLNxLnQzCwn4nIiU5xlmWCvAVtH3LmzJfex5OfCL5tTz4XrnCYGzuFXwfp8dc1pTc/eL/RxZ2llTRqz630rbk3hVFydlb6zIIw=; X-YMail-OSG: 8QoThDwVM1nqTw2QYfQSNNxjBMldyF2mSM_HhK2HA4gd5VA pmq.UyvxdN7wdN9z3Rr.1UqNcyMuxwgRPcN6a69Xm0bDf86_OviHH4AQIo0G yTgWpiJpBuPzFMM9yJD8ioV2RFg_q2HirMw8AqUsQnSy7Bwcy82anGjEk5Uw VTkDMQLe1sC7hEfC6yvdMYdi6AMJnoXUlUO48vuqKrOuTXp484xnDT8CmV32 vUHKf36kx294oxJkftfDSyBJKeuQO9I5vAPF3IuPJoDOYevg7jxQPh6Msot. iiApJrRZt82_ROEw0o7dn7rctLRljN72HU3oXCzs2uefOyBa65nrZ9N_ysZX 1Y26SldypayZox6_MoKO5dHR9SHKYcmNHDsPKNNIhPveXdWfXbVMMpOgfDVE WePUnyq0XtLj1PO7ZwIJiUgEMALgdXgm2xJAYpE.OqXntoOAAeqR76zQ_3ng 7ol8AbUtZ8Ma71czX.SWZ1C1y_mMMaEEmfH3mcsGJBoGwmK1Fh6cIHuNqvYZ FJiqXCxI- Received: from [89.165.120.140] by web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:37:19 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, CgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBBcnRodXIgQ2hhbmNlIDxmcmVlYnNkQHFlbmctaG8ub3JnPgpUbzogSmFjayBNYyBMYXVyZW4gPGphY2subWNsYXVyZW5AeWFob28uY29tPiAKQ2M6ICJmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyIgPGZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnPiAKU2VudDogVHVlc2RheSwgT2N0b2JlciAyMywgMjAxMiAyOjU0IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBuYW5vYnNkIGNvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24KIApPbiAxMC8yMy8xMiAwOToyOCwBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <1350980911.20647.YahooMailNeo@web126002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50867E7B.7050704@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: <1350992239.88890.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:37:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jack Mc Lauren Subject: Re: nanobsd configuration To: Arthur Chance In-Reply-To: <50867E7B.7050704@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Mc Lauren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:37:21 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Arthur Chance =0ATo: Jack Mc Lauren =0ACc: "freeb= sd-questions@freebsd.org" =0ASent: Tuesday,= October 23, 2012 2:54 PM=0ASubject: Re: nanobsd configuration=0A =0AOn 10/= 23/12 09:28, Jack Mc Lauren wrote:=0A> hi=0A> =0A> i have a problem with na= nobsd. there are somethings which don't have WITHOUT knobs,=0A> how can i c= ontrol these directories manually ? how can i add a costume function to=0A>= nanobsd.sh to do this ??=0A=0AHow about something along the lines of=0A=0A= cust_clean () {=0A=A0=A0=A0 rm -rf ${NANO_WORLDIR}/path/to/unwanted=0A}=0A= =0Acustomize_cmd cust_clean=0A=0Ain your nanobsd config file?=0A=0A=0A=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0Athanks=A0=0A= you mean after building image, this function remove unwanted from WORLDDIR = ?=0Ai suppose this will not effect the image, because the image had been bu= ilt before removing unwanted directories ...=0Adid i get your point correct= ly ?=A0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 12:30:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF481D5 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF3B8FC0C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F7C5E3F3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:20:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.568 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.568 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.570, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gczG+Ir91Zlg for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:20:30 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.111] (c-195-216-043-059.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.43.59]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A50C5E452 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:20:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50868B9A.3040008@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:20:42 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Samba and handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:30:03 -0000 According to http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-samba.html One can use samba_enable="YES" Or, for fine grain control: nmbd_enable="YES" smbd_enable="YES" > 20121022: > AFFECTS: users of net/samba36 > AUTHOR: timur@FreeBSD.org > > Startup rc.d/samba script was modified to address some problems with the > fine control of supplimentary daemons. As a side effect now it's always > necessary to specify in rc.conf: > > samba_enable=YES > > to get the script working. You can still control each of the daemons > individualy, by disabling/enabling them with: > > nmbd_enable=NO > smbd_enable=NO > winbindd_enable=YES The Handbook information is out of date because of this and should be corrected. thanks :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 12:39:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE90ACB for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-mc.us5_11570771.190333-freebsd-questions=FreeBSD.org@mail50.us1.mcsv.net) Received: from mail50.us1.mcsv.net (mail50.us1.mcsv.net [204.232.163.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68888FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:39:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d=mail50.us1.mcsv.net; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Date:Message-ID:List-Unsubscribe:Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version; i=info=3Dmyopensourcestore.com@mail50.us1.mcsv.net; bh=0Gud0x+0EMEyy1ATyVwBBbAAJoU=; b=pHmJ8pbqry7SB30b3T5jOkwJ9tI+GgiQAE94v3ayD36sFgL91eBaY7qRaCX/+o3lfrHlvmjpbZWG Z4Z/JE5W/j4MIbFiZZVTqAFYDxn5KVRZhbncxvvV54XF5RwegcmJhQfT+4ZMLAqQVt7m0bWV/EhO 7LTR+5pTrs5kH9PtE6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d=mail50.us1.mcsv.net; b=jzUFK0TFsP0/1yZxnRP9fWwiEBb0pPx6A6BNCh1HWxXnsK4EupRHUw6hZ07EetSoKIvTcclrAFUV O5y0lM3rVytJAg6bDD7Hd33zbIrOGFWYl0zg4ywjj1rzCpgiPDhdeFGJZzxuaamda9gvec3xhnHR 6WzXLenlFKvvk27QVmE=; Received: from (127.0.0.1) by mail50.us1.mcsv.net (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r16) id hgq81s0vc3ge for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:24:51 +0000 (envelope-from ) Subject: =?utf-8?Q?myOpenSourceStore=20Newsletter=20=2D=2D=20Edition=3A=20October=202012?= From: =?utf-8?Q?myOpenSourceStore.com?= To: =?utf-8?Q?freebsd=2Dquestions=40FreeBSD.org?= Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:24:51 +0000 Message-ID: <17d2e69c7ec33229b61621e3b18984a2320.20121023122443@mail50.us1.mcsv.net> X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CIDd738bd377218984a2320** X-Campaign: mailchimp17d2e69c7ec33229b61621e3b.d738bd3772 X-campaignid: mailchimp17d2e69c7ec33229b61621e3b.d738bd3772 X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://www.mailchimp.com/abuse/abuse.phtml?u=17d2e69c7ec33229b61621e3b&id=d738bd3772&e=18984a2320 x-accounttype: ff Sender: "myOpenSourceStore.com" x-mcda: FALSE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="fixed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "=?utf-8?Q?myOpenSourceStore.com?=" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:39:59 -0000 Edition - October 2012 ------------------------------------------------------------ ** Welcome to myOpenSourceStore.com Newsletter. ------------------------------------------------------------ We are happy to have you as a member of our community. 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But the kernel keeps loading the wrong driver (hptrr.ko) : even when I escape to the loaderprompt before booting the kernel and give the command "unload hptrr.ko" or "disable-module hptrr" , the command "pciconf" -lv still shows the hptrr driver attached to the sat2-mv8 card (hptrr@pci0:3:1:0) when the system is booted from the boot CD. So how can I resolve this problem without editing the iso-image of the boot CD or DVD and getting rid of the hptrr.ko module ? kind regards, Dirk On 10/22/12 16:47, Mark wrote: > The driver is in the kernel. > > See if this will help. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-June/017810.html > > > People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. > George Orwell > > HTH > > > --- On Mon, 10/22/12, ds wrote: > >> From: ds >> Subject: supermicro sat2-mv8 sata raid card driver >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Cc: dk-sk@skynet.be >> Date: Monday, October 22, 2012, 9:14 AM >> Hello, >> >> are there any plans to provide a driver for the supermicro >> sat2-mv8 (8-port) sata raid card ? >> >> Kind regards, >> Dirk >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 13:48:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EFF821 for ; 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Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.239.167 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:18:43 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: ipfw headers From: s m To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:48:47 -0000 hi every one i want to set TOS bit in ipfw but don't know how to do it directly. therefore i want to change ipfw code in order to do it for me. i don't know ipfw headers path (from where ipfw loads its headers). please help if somebody set TOS bit in any ways or know the path which ipfw headers are located. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 13:52:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B453D9D3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE988FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93EF80F9; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:52:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9NDqB3r003631; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:52:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:52:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: s m Subject: Re: ipfw headers Message-Id: <20121023155211.9785bae4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:52:20 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:18:43 +0330, s m wrote: > hi every one > > i want to set TOS bit in ipfw but don't know how to do it directly. > therefore i want to change ipfw code in order to do it for me. i don't know > ipfw headers path (from where ipfw loads its headers). > > please help if somebody set TOS bit in any ways or know the path which ipfw > headers are located. Does /usr/src/sbin/ipfw contain what you're searching for? Other incorporated header files might be located in the system's default path /usr/include (or a subdirectory thereof, e. g. sys/ or net/). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 14:05:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEC6B3D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam.gh1986@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C548FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so5389591vcb.13 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:05:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MGhStlXsnu3KLXA3h2qgJzHpozm7GkJkfWQA4mAIQjo=; b=ES/5HdDXquaXzyYAY3RINg7sMe6UaCzUaYG0ZzcFETIiRdwxPXNU+NGRVXomHvUfTx 8fefHKKgF7zaXCe7mlJ9CsE4lvSlGqsLuAFd5SqFCR5tfwdjkD/rPUGX21dGry4UPOWD s0hzf1IVn6WeFcYK5lUWx8WdInYu21cD5EtvtLPt2idwgsPM3f/v2Eg7Gdlz6FOxltwQ EUmXnPZ1ojTzevZe4JJgCzkWVDlRTuUaiIntjrsi3C3Aitb5yNnQMmF2Twc+ThVvp+4d Ht1mK/PVmauX+UNh27EOP4NJSvWwNVIGXdkZNDV2hkIN3wV2B6nCZbw0mTpcVoda2EVv eHog== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.72.42 with SMTP id a10mr16941324vdv.48.1351001145912; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.239.167 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:05:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121023155211.9785bae4.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121023155211.9785bae4.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:35:45 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ipfw headers From: s m To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:05:48 -0000 thanks for your quick reply. you know, i want to add studio.h header but the below error occurs: "no such file or directory". i am sure that studio.h locates in usr/src/include but that error occured. if i write the full path of studio.h in ipfw file and then compile it, another error happened. do you know how i could fix it? thanks On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:18:43 +0330, s m wrote: > > hi every one > > > > i want to set TOS bit in ipfw but don't know how to do it directly. > > therefore i want to change ipfw code in order to do it for me. i don't > know > > ipfw headers path (from where ipfw loads its headers). > > > > please help if somebody set TOS bit in any ways or know the path which > ipfw > > headers are located. > > Does /usr/src/sbin/ipfw contain what you're searching for? > Other incorporated header files might be located in the > system's default path /usr/include (or a subdirectory > thereof, e. g. sys/ or net/). > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 15:20:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625AC132 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F528FC14 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9NFJxNb035720; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:19:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5086B59F.9030605@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:19:59 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121013 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Mc Lauren Subject: Re: nanobsd configuration References: <1350980911.20647.YahooMailNeo@web126002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50867E7B.7050704@qeng-ho.org> <1350992239.88890.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1350992239.88890.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:20:01 -0000 On 10/23/12 12:37, Jack Mc Lauren wrote: > From: Arthur Chance > To: Jack Mc Lauren > Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: nanobsd configuration > > On 10/23/12 09:28, Jack Mc Lauren wrote: >> hi >> >> i have a problem with nanobsd. there are somethings which don't have WITHOUT knobs, >> how can i control these directories manually ? how can i add a costume function to >> nanobsd.sh to do this ?? > > How about something along the lines of > > cust_clean () { > rm -rf ${NANO_WORLDIR}/path/to/unwanted **** Important: that should have been ${NANO_WORLDDIR} with *two* Ds - get it wrong and there's a chance you may damage your main system. > } > > customize_cmd cust_clean > > in your nanobsd config file? > > > ======================================================================= > thanks > you mean after building image, this function remove unwanted from WORLDDIR ? > i suppose this will not effect the image, because the image had been built before > removing unwanted directories ... > did i get your point correctly ? A slight caveat: it's a while since I did anything with nanobsd and this is all from memory. "man 8 nanobsd" is your friend, and reading the config files under /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd and nanobsd.sh itself is useful. This doeswill affect the image. nanobsd first builds (by the usual installation process) a file tree that will become the basis of the disk image. This is pointed to by ${NANO_WORLDDIR}. It then runs the customize functions which can change any part of this tree. Standard ones do things like adding more files, or alter ${NANO_WORLDDIR}/etc/ssh/sshd_config to allow root logins. You can add your own command to do what you like. After that, nanobsd creates a disk image using md based devices, mounts them and copies the ${NANO_WORLDDIR} into the relevant slice(s). If you don't want some part of the system but it hasn't got a WITHOUT knob to prevent it being installed, the only thing you can do is let nanobsd install it into the tree, and then "manually" via your own customize_cmd remove it. Any changes you make will affect the final image. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 15:33:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CFEDFF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gardnerbell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B448FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so4081054iag.13 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:33:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cDitouprmPDnqE8nnQetQOvkH9jhAR6G3upfo5mn7B8=; b=hB4RPRdwpmTYAZsidtTvMTZNWBm4/oVSxeswxFqEisPw5UNtgCNplSKa386lcgz0Py Q2D5N1293oq1VBjTT0Lzdn2VRdr6sqflBbHjcOION1+issqPbyKklDWVXz26xVy2CMIx /jq00u3HOdd78fEYjNHVIMBHJIXSJtK75qWTk9l0VA/rdYXYBqvaJ9HTyn4HwBzhXN9x PHzFh6FJgPj1TRclbM2RRnCjafjAgq0Hn7k2HZwDpzgAJmagAMbTaxmAg09QN33NZ2fW zRzUvziBHasJgTJkEJfkUoi4zJz9Q2r8Yt3OUT42jr/iliDLnQIHAegiWuhdXeabmrsH hAqQ== Received: by 10.50.213.99 with SMTP id nr3mr13395050igc.16.1351006399417; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([69.165.173.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x5sm15907941igc.14.2012.10.23.08.33.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5086B8B5.1060708@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:33:09 -0400 From: Gardner Bell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rares Aioanei Subject: Re: graphics card References: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> <5085B602.9090005@gmail.com> <20121023151544.GA6396@hplap.localdom.ain> In-Reply-To: <20121023151544.GA6396@hplap.localdom.ain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:33:20 -0000 On 23/10/2012 11:15 AM, Rares Aioanei wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 05:09:22PM -0400, Gardner Bell wrote: >> On 22/10/2012 4:56 PM, ajtiM wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I have an old computer but it works good still :). I use KDE and GIMP and I >>> like to use Krita more but a problem is graphics card and it is slow (Gimp is >>> okay). >>> I have ASUS P4P800 mother board and ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics card. I look >>> for some Nvidia AGP cards (opengl 2.0) but the problem is because my >>> motherboard AGP supports +1.5V only. >>> Which gr. card would be better than my but I could use on my motherboard, >>> please? >>> >>> Thank in advance, >>> >>> Mitja >>> -------- >>> http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa >> >> Maybe the Radeon HD 4670 would be a good card for you to look at. >> > Is the HD 4670 AGP ? > Sure is. http://www.amazon.com/HIS-Radeon-Native-Graphics-H467QS1GHA/dp/B003CYKCG8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 16:00:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAFED3D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dk-sk@skynet.be) Received: from mailsec002.isp.belgacom.be (mailsec002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718228FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:00:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skynet.be; i=@skynet.be; q=dns/txt; s=securemail; t=1351008023; x=1382544023; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6/xBS3IyUu8eh4rxTFNNGVtszyLYpEGis3Y9DjEL4RE=; b=NfpM7eum85KrQD1KprhsVbb/Kja9o30JNC1AIURSAfhPTFeOJJ9937fG ACcLBjqwQ1JnEdV7sIkVwOWLhS5a9A==; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAPS9hlBbttOR/2dsb2JhbAANN8UMAQEBBAEBATUWIAoBEAsRAwECAQkWDwkDAgECARUBCR4IBgEHBQEBBAEBAQEXAgSHUQMaqCiDKZA7inhnGoZEA5NEgi2BF5ITgVgJGw Received: from 145.211-182-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([91.182.211.145]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 23 Oct 2012 18:00:15 +0200 Message-ID: <5086BE97.9010507@skynet.be> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:58:15 +0200 From: ds User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111228 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: supermicro sat2-mv8 sata raid card driver in Freebsd 9.0 References: <1351002747.17477.YahooMailClassic@web184305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1351002747.17477.YahooMailClassic@web184305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dk-sk@skynet.be X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:00:24 -0000 Hi, I prepared an USB stick and added the /boot/loader.conf file with "hw.hptrr.attach_generic=0" and it still didn't work : "pciconf -lv" still showed the hptrr driver attached to the sat2-mv8 card and no harddisks were detected. So I removed the /boot/loader.conf file and added the same line ("hw.hptrr.attach_generic=0") to /boot/defaults/loader.conf and guess what ! It still doesn't work... Just for the peace of mind I verified one more time if linux did recognize the controller and indeed, it did. Anyway, as you know, linux is a pain in the ass for someone who's accustomed to FreeBSD so I bought a cheap PCI-X controller on ebay today, as a temporary solution for replacing my current PCI sata controller which is occupying a PCI slot I desperately need. Are there any plans to fix this supermicro sat2-mv8 card problem in the upcoming 9.1 release ? kind regards, Dirk On 10/23/12 16:32, Mark wrote: > It would not hurt to try. =) > > > People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. > George Orwell > > > --- On Tue, 10/23/12, ds wrote: > >> From: ds >> Subject: Re: supermicro sat2-mv8 sata raid card driver in Freebsd 9.0 >> To: "Mark" >> Cc: dk-sk@skynet.be >> Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 9:19 AM >> I'm using a CD to install freebsd 9.0 >> on a computer. Removing the mv8 >> card wont't help me since I haven't got any sata interfaces >> on my >> motherboard. >> >> Any idea if installing from an USB image would help if I >> removed the >> hptrr.ko module before installing from USB-stick ? >> >> Kind regards, >> Dirk >> >> >> the system on On 10/23/12 16:13, Mark wrote: >>> Are you using a cd to install on the computer or to run >> the computer from the cd? >>> I had to remove the mv8 card, install the system, then >> alter the /boot/loader.config to ignore the hptrr driver. >>> add this line to disable "hw.hptrr.attach_generic=0" >>> >>> If you booting from a live cd each time I think you >> will need to create your own live cd with a custom kernel >>> >>> >>> People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only >> because rough men stand ready to do violence on their >> behalf. >>> George Orwell >>> >>> >>> --- On Tue, 10/23/12, ds >> wrote: >>>> From: ds >>>> Subject: Re: supermicro sat2-mv8 sata raid card >> driver in Freebsd 9.0 >>>> To: "Mark", >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Cc: dk-sk@skynet.be >>>> Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 8:28 AM >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> the driver for the supermicro sat2-mv8 card >> (88sx61xx >>>> chip) is in the >>>> kernel (mvs.ko module) indeed. >>>> But the kernel keeps loading the wrong driver >> (hptrr.ko) : >>>> even when I >>>> escape to the loaderprompt before booting the >> kernel and >>>> give the >>>> command "unload hptrr.ko" or "disable-module hptrr" >> , the >>>> command >>>> "pciconf" -lv still shows the hptrr driver attached >> to the >>>> sat2-mv8 card >>>> (hptrr@pci0:3:1:0) when the system is booted from >> the boot >>>> CD. >>>> >>>> So how can I resolve this problem without editing >> the >>>> iso-image of the >>>> boot CD or DVD and getting rid of the hptrr.ko >> module ? >>>> kind regards, >>>> Dirk >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/22/12 16:47, Mark wrote: >>>>> The driver is in the kernel. >>>>> >>>>> See if this will help. >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-June/017810.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> People sleep peaceably in their beds at night >> only >>>> because rough men stand ready to do violence on >> their >>>> behalf. >>>>> George Orwell >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 10/22/12, ds >>>> wrote: >>>>>> From: ds >>>>>> Subject: supermicro sat2-mv8 sata raid card >> driver >>>>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>> Cc: dk-sk@skynet.be >>>>>> Date: Monday, October 22, 2012, 9:14 AM >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> are there any plans to provide a driver for >> the >>>> supermicro >>>>>> sat2-mv8 (8-port) sata raid card ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> Dirk >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>> mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 16:19:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D363843 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F038FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id EgKq1k007516WCc01gKr9r; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:19:51 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=XOyyuHdE c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=5F1dt080UDoA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=RwxpjtvrQaIA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=dj0jm23KmQ3aUXXaewUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TQhCm-000HZI-Fj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:19:50 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:19:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201210222056.12232.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201210231719.48155.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, J_CHICKENPOX_102 autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Gimp - problem opening images using URI's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:19:54 -0000 On Tuesday 23 October 2012 03:11:06 Alexandr Alexeev wrote: > Could you trace gimp using truss utility and upload an output somewhere? The output file is more than 90 thousand lines long, if anyone would like to see the whole file then I could upload it somewhere but in the meantime here's an extract from the vicinity of the error: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- stat("/etc/nsswitch.conf",{ mode=-rw-r--r-- ,inode=11094,size=323,blksize=4096 }) = 0 (0x0) geteuid() = 1001 (0x3e9) open("/etc/pwd.db",O_RDONLY,00) = 7 (0x7) fcntl(7,F_SETFD,FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 (0x0) fstat(7,{ mode=-rw-r--r-- ,inode=138,size=40960,blksize=40960 }) = 0 (0x0) read(7,"\0\^F\^Ua\0\0\0\^B\0\0\^D\M-R\0"...,260) = 260 (0x104) pread(0x7,0x808c62000,0x1000,0x6000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c63000,0x1000,0x4000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c64000,0x1000,0x5000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c65000,0x1000,0x7000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c66000,0x1000,0x8000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c67000,0x1000,0x1000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c68000,0x1000,0x2000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) pread(0x7,0x808c69000,0x1000,0x3000,0x1,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) close(7) = 0 (0x0) socket(PF_LOCAL,SOCK_STREAM,0) = 7 (0x7) stat("/tmp/fam-mike",0x7fffffffc900) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' connect(7,{ AF_UNIX "/tmp/fam-mike/fam-" },106) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' close(7) = 0 (0x0) access("/usr/local/libexec/gam_server",5) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGILL|SIGTRAP|SIGABRT|SIGEMT| SIGFPE|SIGKILL|SIGBUS|SIGSEGV|SIGSYS|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP| SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVTALRM| SIGPROF|SIGWINCH|SIGINFO|SIGUSR1|SIGUSR2,0x0) = 0 (0x0) fork() = 3667 (0xe53) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) wait4(0xe53,0x7fffffffc4a4,0x0,0x0,0xffff80080ad06860,0x0) = 3667 (0xe53) socket(PF_LOCAL,SOCK_STREAM,0) = 7 (0x7) stat("/tmp/fam-mike",0x7fffffffc900) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' connect(7,{ AF_UNIX "/tmp/fam-mike/fam-" },106) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' close(7) = 0 (0x0) nanosleep({0.050000000 }) = 0 (0x0) socket(PF_LOCAL,SOCK_STREAM,0) = 7 (0x7) stat("/tmp/fam-mike",0x7fffffffc900) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' connect(7,{ AF_UNIX "/tmp/fam-mike/fam-" },106) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' close(7) = 0 (0x0) [snip 22 similar 'No such file or directory' blocks] nanosleep({0.050000000 }) = 0 (0x0) socket(PF_LOCAL,SOCK_STREAM,0) = 7 (0x7) stat("/tmp/fam-mike",0x7fffffffc900) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' connect(7,{ AF_UNIX "/tmp/fam-mike/fam-" },106) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-mike/fam- write(2,"Failed to connect to socket /tmp"...,47) = 47 (0x2f) close(7) = 0 (0x0) getpid() = 3661 (0xe4d) (gimp:3661): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=3 write(2,"\n(gimp:3661): GLib-GIO-WARNING "...,63) = 63 (0x3f) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- It looks like the problem lies inside gam_api.c in devel/gamin. If I've interpreted things correctly gamin_get_socket_path() returns /tmp/fam-mike/fam- though I'm wondering it it should have returned /tmp/fam-mike/fam-. Then gamin_connect_unix_socket() invokes gamin_fork_server() and tries to connect to it but gives up after MAX_RETRIES (=25) failed attempts to connect. Well, that's what I think is happening but working out why it's happening is beyond my skill level so I'd welcome any advice. In case it's any use here's the output with GAM_DEBUG set: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- curlew:/home/mike% setenv GAM_DEBUG curlew:/home/mike% gimp -c http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png FAMOpen2() FAMOpen() Error getting GAM_CLIENT_ID Reusing socket directory /tmp/fam-mike Asking to launch /usr/local/libexec/gam_server with client id Reusing socket directory /tmp/fam-mike Reusing socket directory /tmp/fam-mike Connected to socket /tmp/fam-mike/fam- : 7 Wrote credential bytes to socket 7 Activating thread safety FAMPending(fd = 7) Checking data available on 7 Client need auth 7 read credentials byte Credentials: s_uid 1001, c_uid 1001, c_gid 1001, c_pid 67468 Checking data available on 7 FAMMonitorFile(/home/mike/.local/share/recently-used.xbel) Wrote 52 bytes to socket 7 gamin_send_request 1 for socket 7 FAMPending(fd = 7) Checking data available on 7 read 104 bytes from server accepted event: seq 1, type 8 FAMNextEvent(fd = 7) FAMNextEvent : Exists : /home/mike/.local/share/recently-used.xbel FAMPending(fd = 7) accepted event: seq 1, type 9 FAMNextEvent(fd = 7) FAMNextEvent : EndExist : /home/mike/.local/share/recently-used.xbel FAMPending(fd = 7) Checking data available on 7 GIMP-Error: Opening 'http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png' failed: Could not open 'http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/beastie.png' for reading: No such file or directory --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 16:38:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3F9F24 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9A28FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.239] (vhost.johnea.net [192.168.100.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 092DE73F188B for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:37:38 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:38:05 -0000 On 2012-10-22 15:54, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > >> On 10/21/2012 07:32 AM, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: >>> >>>> On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >>>>> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? >>>> >>> At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). >> >> I've been reading your article on formatting disks in FreeBSD: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html >> >> Do you have any docs on setting up MBR using gpart, to allign for 4K sector size drives? > > This is a copy from the update of the gmirror section I'm planning to commit to the Handbook. For a single drive, replace mirror/gm0 with just the drive name, like ada4. > > # create the MBR and add a FreeBSD slice > gpart create -s MBR mirror/gm0 > gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 > > # create the bsdlabel partitions in slice 1 (s1) > gpart create -s BSD mirror/gm0s1 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 2g mirror/gm0s1 > gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 4g mirror/gm0s1 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 2g mirror/gm0s1 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 1g mirror/gm0s1 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 > > # put bootcode on the MBR and mark the first slice active > gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr mirror/gm0 > gpart set -a active -i 1 mirror/gm0 > > # put bootcode on the bsdlabel > gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot mirror/gm0s1 That helps a lot Warren! In recent years I've just been creating a swap partition and one big root partition. It just seems as soon as I make all the traditional partitions, one runs out of room. Do you feel there are any major disadvantages of this approach? To create a swap and then a root that fills the rest of the disk, must the swap be created first, like this: gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 4g mirror/gm0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 Is there any other way to tell gpart to create the / partition using all space except 4G? Thank You! johnea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 16:38:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A521AC for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from cheddar.urgle.com (cheddar.urgle.com [80.177.40.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875B28FC16 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mike by cheddar.urgle.com with local (Exim 4.80 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TQhCg-0006Wl-I9; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:19:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:19:42 +0100 From: Mike Bristow To: s m Subject: Re: ipfw headers Message-ID: <20121023161942.GA9130@cheddar.urgle.com> References: <20121023155211.9785bae4.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:38:55 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:35:45PM +0330, s m wrote: > thanks for your quick reply. you know, i want to add studio.h header but > the below error occurs: "no such file or directory". You appear to have misstyepd "stdio.h" (no u!). If that's not the case, please put the source you are trying to compile on a web page, and tell us where we can find it. Also tell us the exact command you are running. -- Mike Bristow mike@urgle.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 16:44:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456BB521 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016CA8FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795DA3CC64; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:44:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9NGijSj001910; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:44:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:44:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: s m Subject: Re: ipfw headers Message-Id: <20121023184445.5f6c0e8a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121023155211.9785bae4.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:44:47 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:35:45 +0330, s m wrote: > thanks for your quick reply. you know, i want to add studio.h header but > the below error occurs: "no such file or directory". i am sure that > studio.h locates in usr/src/include but that error occured. if i write the > full path of studio.h in ipfw file and then compile it, another error > happened. do you know how i could fix it? thanks The normal inclusion #include should be sufficient. However, if you make your change to ipfw in the /usr/src tree, calling "make" might default to a different path for obtaining headers, i. e. use them from within the src/ tree. The system defaults to several paths, in one of them stdio.h should be defined no matter what build command you use. /usr/include/stdio.h is the default file. /usr/include will be automatically used unless you change a compiler option (-I). /usr/src/include/stdio.h the file used when building stuff from source. This would be the case (if I remember correctly) when you call "make" from /usr/src/sbin/ipfw directly. As ipfw (unaltered) also includes headers "next to" stdio.h, it shouldn't be a problem. You can compare this to other #include preprocessor commands found in ipfw's main.c. Final note: If you did actually use the name "studio.h" - that is a typo. There is no "u" in "standard I/O". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 16:57:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293E19D0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86138FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD88A5EE; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:57:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03F12CF3ED; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:57:02 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: andrew clarke Subject: Re: how many memory is needed for FreeBSD 9 ? Message-ID: <20121023185702.1544dd49@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20121021164950.GA65075@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121021182159.38d1113b@davenulle.org> <20121021164950.GA65075@ozzmosis.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:57:38 -0000 Le Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:49:50 +1100, andrew clarke a écrit : Hello, > > I'm updating an old laptop running FreeBSD 8.1 with 64 MB ram (44MB > > available) but now FreeBSD 9.1 panics at boot time: > > > > panic: kmem_malloc(4194304): kmem_map too small: 24584192 allocated? > > That's one very old laptop. I think you'll need to install more memory > or downgrade FreeBSD to an earlier version. 1998, I think (HP Omnibook 900). I use it for small network testing and serial console access. It works well for this. Well I've put 8-STABLE on it (two days to make buildworld/buildkernel). Looks good. > From my limited testing under VirtualBox, 96 MB RAM is about the lower > limit that will allow FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 to boot before the swap > partition is enabled. Any less and the kernel will freeze or panic at > boot. This was with the amd64 version though, not i386. Thanks for this, regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 17:48:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F9CF4C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D152D8FC0C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.net [192.168.5.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9NHmhoQ093894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:48:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:48:43 -0500 From: dweimer To: Subject: Re: Bug in LAGG driver at 9.0 =?UTF-8?Q?=3F?= Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <5086794F.5000209@esiee.fr> References: <5086794F.5000209@esiee.fr> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:48:45 -0000 On 2012-10-23 06:02, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > I cannot get the lagg driver to work properly at 9.0 > > the Cisco switch is well configured to support LACP no problem > on that side it supports another Linux server with two aggregated > eth ports that works well. > > here is the config of the FreeBSD 9.0-P3 server > > ifconfig_bce0="up" > ifconfig_bce1="up" > ifconfig_bce2="up" > cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport bce0 laggport bce1 laggport > bce2" > ipv4_addrs_lagg0="147.215.201.21/24" > defaultrouter="147.215.201.1" > > > showing the lagg configuration give the following , only one ethernet > port is active. > > > ifconfig lagg0 > lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 > mtu 1500 > > options=c01bb > ether 00:9c:02:9a:97:b0 > inet 147.215.201.21 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 147.215.201.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > laggproto lacp > laggport: bce2 flags=0<> > laggport: bce1 flags=0<> > laggport: bce0 flags=1c > > > > Thanks for any info/idea > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Can you post your Cisco Switch port configuration? I have a two port LAGG using lacp on two separate Dell PowerEdge servers running 9.0-RELEASEp3, below is my config in FreeBSD the only differences I see apart form 2 instead of three ports, is that I named the interface, and used a different syntax to specify the ip addresses, but yours should be correct as well. uname -v FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 26 10:27:21 CDT 2012 ifconfig_bce0="up" ifconfig_bce1="up" cloned_interfaces="lagg6" ifconfig_lagg6_name="DMZ" ifconfig_DMZ="laggproto lacp laggport bce0 laggport bce1" ifconfig_DMZ_alias0="inet 10.50.20.5 netmask 0xffff0000" ifconfig_DMZ_alias1="inet 10.52.20.5 netmask 0xffff0000" defaultrouter="10.50.110.4" DMZ: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=c01bb ether 78:2b:cb:68:9f:1e inet 10.50.20.5 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.50.255.255 inet 10.52.20.5 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.52.255.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto lacp laggport: bce1 flags=1c laggport: bce0 flags=1c -- Thanks, Dean E. 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xn10sm326161igb.4.2012.10.23.14.10.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: Polytropon Subject: Re: graphics card Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:09:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RC2; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) References: <201210221556.56301.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20121023083433.7f114e04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121023083433.7f114e04.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210231609.58322.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:10:09 -0000 On Tuesday 23 October 2012 01:34:33 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:56:56 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > There are several options for X you can tweak, and the > native "ati" driver is excellent for the older ATI models. > Make sure you have DRM/DRI working, and check for GL > support (glxinfo, glxgears, xvinfo; install xlockmore > and see "xlock -nolock -mode fire"). I had this computer about 12 years and it works very good still. I didn't have problem with slow Krita before but now is not the same. IMO all graphics programs are more "hungry" for better gr. cards but GIM works still very good. I have ati native drivers, I have dr/drm installed but I don't use xorg.conf and it works. I ran "glxgears -info in the small size windows and I got: glxgears -info GL_RENDERER = Mesa DRI R200 (RV250 4966) 20090101 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL GL_VERSION = 1.3 Mesa 7.6.1 GL_VENDOR = Tungsten Graphics, Inc. GL_EXTENSIONS = GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_MESA_window_pos GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_OES_read_format GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_color_table GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays 9632 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1926.316 FPS 10262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.362 FPS 10254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2050.631 FPS 10262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.296 FPS 10262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.253 FPS 10262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.279 FPS 10261 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.143 FPS 10262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.282 FPS 10260 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2051.818 FPS 10261 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2052.118 FPS glxgears -fullscreen I got: glxgears -fullscreen 1453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 290.501 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.973 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.976 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.981 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.975 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.981 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.990 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.989 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.985 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.982 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.989 FPS 1490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.913 FPS glxinfo shows: name of display: :0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 (RV250 4966) 20090101 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.6.1 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays 8 GLX Visuals visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x21 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x22 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x10b 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x10c 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x10d 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x12a 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x12b 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x12c 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 8 GLXFBConfigs: visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0xac 0 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0xad 0 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0xae 0 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0xaf 0 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0xec 0 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0xed 0 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0xee 0 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0xef 0 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow and xvinfo: X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 Adaptor #0: "ATI Radeon Video Overlay" number of ports: 1 port base: 63 operations supported: PutImage supported visuals: depth 24, visualID 0x21 depth 24, visualID 0x22 number of attributes: 22 "XV_DEVICE_ID" (range 0 to -1) client gettable attribute (current value is 107) "XV_LOCATION_ID" (range 0 to -1) client gettable attribute (current value is 108) "XV_INSTANCE_ID" (range 0 to -1) client gettable attribute (current value is 109) "XV_DUMP_STATUS" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute "XV_SET_DEFAULTS" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute "XV_AUTOPAINT_COLORKEY" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 1) "XV_COLORKEY" (range 0 to -1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 30) "XV_DOUBLE_BUFFER" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 1) "XV_OVERLAY_ALPHA" (range 0 to 255) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 255) "XV_GRAPHICS_ALPHA" (range 0 to 255) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 255) "XV_ALPHA_MODE" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_BRIGHTNESS" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_CONTRAST" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_SATURATION" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_COLOR" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_HUE" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_RED_INTENSITY" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_GREEN_INTENSITY" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_BLUE_INTENSITY" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_CRTC" (range -1 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is -1) "XV_GAMMA" (range 100 to 10000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 1000) "XV_COLORSPACE" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) maximum XvImage size: 2047 x 2047 Number of image formats: 8 id: 0x41424752 (RGBA) guid: 52474241-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 32 number of planes: 1 type: RGB (packed) depth: 32 red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff id: 0x54424752 (RGBT) guid: 52474254-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 16 number of planes: 1 type: RGB (packed) depth: 16 red, green, blue masks: 0x7c00, 0x3e0, 0x1f id: 0x32424752 (RGB2) guid: 52474200-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 16 number of planes: 1 type: RGB (packed) depth: 16 red, green, blue masks: 0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f id: 0x0 guid: 52474200-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 24 number of planes: 1 type: RGB (packed) depth: 24 red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff id: 0x32595559 (YUY2) guid: 59555932-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 16 number of planes: 1 type: YUV (packed) id: 0x59565955 (UYVY) guid: 55595659-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 16 number of planes: 1 type: YUV (packed) id: 0x32315659 (YV12) guid: 59563132-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 12 number of planes: 3 type: YUV (planar) id: 0x30323449 (I420) guid: 49343230-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 12 number of planes: 3 type: YUV (planar) Adaptor #1: "Radeon Textured Video" number of ports: 16 port base: 64 operations supported: PutImage supported visuals: depth 24, visualID 0x21 number of attributes: 7 "XV_VSYNC" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 1) "XV_BRIGHTNESS" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_CONTRAST" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_SATURATION" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_HUE" (range -1000 to 1000) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_COLORSPACE" (range 0 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_CRTC" (range -1 to 1) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is -1) maximum XvImage size: 2048 x 2048 Number of image formats: 4 id: 0x32595559 (YUY2) guid: 59555932-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 16 number of planes: 1 type: YUV (packed) id: 0x32315659 (YV12) guid: 59563132-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 12 number of planes: 3 type: YUV (planar) id: 0x30323449 (I420) guid: 49343230-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 12 number of planes: 3 type: YUV (planar) id: 0x59565955 (UYVY) guid: 55595659-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71 bits per pixel: 16 number of planes: 1 type: YUV (packed) Do you think if I made my xorg.conf that should be better, please? It is possible to share you xorg.conf with me, please? Thank you very much. P.S. I installed xlockmore but I didn't play yet :) Mitja -------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 22:38:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B22490 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa08-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 555E38FC12 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12534 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2012 22:32:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.180.213.209) by p3plsmtpa08-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.193.110) with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 22:32:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:32:06 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121023223205.GD29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:38:47 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:31:18AM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Gary, > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, > > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I > > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. > > > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > That should be 22/8=2.75 > Jim is 275% older than John > > Olivier > thanks. but this wasn't the formula I remember mousing down. I'll keep looking. gary ps: it was involved; something with three or more steps. things that I had crammed together in one line of C... > > to find the answer I had to find the relative difference {22 - 8} and then > > do something with the difference. this isn't any kind of trick or > > "advanced-cognition"; I just thought it was clever [and exact]. it obviously > > works for finding the abs() results in subtraction. it's something I found on > > the web and swipes and save the prose discussion. BZZT: Lost, :-( > > > > if this seems dumb, I plead guilty! > > > > im asking here because -questions is the sharpest list on the net. > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 22:54:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB34900 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240178FC08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Emru1k00D4XeM0101mrvYw; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:51:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:51:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121023225154.GE29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023113436.6748c811@X220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121023113436.6748c811@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:54:31 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:34:36AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:20:07 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C > > program, but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet > > my last cent that I had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that > > either. > > > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > > > to find the answer I had to find the relative difference {22 - 8} and > > then do something with the difference. this isn't any kind of trick > > or "advanced-cognition"; I just thought it was clever [and exact]. > > it obviously works for finding the abs() results in subtraction. > > it's something I found on the web and swipes and save the prose > > discussion. BZZT: Lost, :-( > > > It seems that I am also lost. What should abs() do here? > > I would multiply the age of john and the difference with 100 and then > divide the result to get the percentage. > > Or did I get lost here? > > > if this seems dumb, I plead guilty! > > > > im asking here because -questions is the sharpest list on the net. > > > > Are you sure? > > Erich LOL. yes! it's been years since I used the steps to find the accurant amount of difference. it may not have involved a %. I can only think of one concrete example. lets say that x == 15 and y == 16. Q: how much less is x than y? it is not just "1"; there was some other way of finding the answer. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 23:08:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA33D8C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:44:76:96:59:243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520248FC18 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Emdu1k0031uE5Es5Dn86es; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:08:06 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.4] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id En8K1k00C4uzdYs3cn8KvM; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:08:19 +0000 Message-ID: <50872352.5030808@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:08:02 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD References: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4F8105F3.6060607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120408003236.5d85721d@cox.net> <4F814F49.6070603@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F814F49.6070603@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:08:02 -0000 I know this is old, but I just saw it. Anyway, I make all of my music on LMMS. It's made for Linux as the name implies, but it works jut fine on FreeBSD. http://www.myspace.com/farmacyofhorror From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 23:16:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017CC2C5 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5EE8FC14 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id EnGQ1k00J4XeM0101nGQe7; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:16:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:16:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121023231624.GF29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Olivier Nicole , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:16:34 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:52:49AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:18 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > Gary, > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, > > > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I > > > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. > > > > > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > > > > > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > > > That should be 22/8=2.75 > > Jim is 275% older than John > > Jim is 175% _older_. Why? Because 100% older means 16 years, > as 100% refers to 8 years (8+8=16, 200% older is 8+8+8=24). > Percentage is always a reference to something else, in this > question, Jim's age in relation to John's. The word "older" > means "adding percentage", refering to the base value of 8, > "divided in 100 parts" (floating point considerations aside), > to finally reach the value 22. > > If the question would be different, say, "What's the percentage > of John's age regarding Jim's age?" In that case, it would be > 8/22=0.3636 being 36%. Obvious: John's age is approximately > 1/3 of Jim's age. > > The easiest way for creating the proper calculation is to refer > to the equation > > percentage * 100 > percentage value = ---------------- > base value > > and resolve it to whatever is required. > I just took a cup's worth of coffee/caffeine to bring me back up! but it seems to me that your logic is about the same as I remember otherwise stated in getting the true differences in ages or speeds [say or cars. x == 200clicks/hr, y == 400 clicks/hour.] or *whatever*. it isn't as easy as it would seem at first thought. > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 00:07:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C14FC9 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from m1plsmtpa01-07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7371C8FC0A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by m1plsmtpa01-07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Eo7E1k0074XeM0101o7E83; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:07:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:07:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Olivier Nicole , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:07:21 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:52:49AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:18 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > Gary, > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, > > > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I > > > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. > > > > > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > > > > > > > > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > > > > That should be 22/8=2.75 > > Jim is 275% older than John > > Jim is 175% _older_. Why? Because 100% older means 16 years, > as 100% refers to 8 years (8+8=16, 200% older is 8+8+8=24). > Percentage is always a reference to something else, in this > question, Jim's age in relation to John's. The word "older" > means "adding percentage", refering to the base value of 8, > "divided in 100 parts" (floating point considerations aside), > to finally reach the value 22. > > If the question would be different, say, "What's the percentage > of John's age regarding Jim's age?" In that case, it would be > 8/22=0.3636 being 36%. Obvious: John's age is approximately > 1/3 of Jim's age. > > The easiest way for creating the proper calculation is to refer > to the equation > > percentage * 100 > percentage value = ---------------- > base value > > and resolve it to whatever is required. > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... yo; I THInk this is it. around line 4542 in my ~/.HowTo file:: %%% find percent inc/dec [increase/decrease] between two numbers. Always figure the percentage of change relative to the original value! For instance: * Suppose a certain item used to sell for seventy-five cents a pound, you see that it's been marked up to eighty-one cents a pound. What is the percent increase? First, I have to find the absolute increase: Reserved 81 - 75 = 6 The price has gone up six cents. Now I can find the percentage increase over the original price. This percentage increase is the relative change: 6/75 = 0.08 ...or an 8% increase in price per pound. So I was wrong about ages or speed; it's the % betwen two ints; here, the inc/dec [or change] between 75 cents as compared to an inflated increase of 81 cents. 1. find abs increase: 81-75 = 6; 2 find the % increase over the *original* value. 6.0/75.0 3. percent increase using doubles is 0.08; so a markup of six cents is an 8% rate. so: going back to the ages example with john bein 8, jim, 22. 22-8 is 14. 14.0/8.0 = 1.750000 175%. jim is 175% times older than john. which is what you found, polyt. {I'll have to re-read your logic now that im awake..} Or, how much more, in % is 16t than 15, it is 1.0/15.0 which is 6%. etc, etc. Hm. that's 0 for gary, 729 for polytrop!! Ah, life:: accept no substitutes. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 00:47:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D789341B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0918FC08 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9O0l1Yu021574; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:47:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9O0l0R9021571; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:47:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:47:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd@johnea.net Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? In-Reply-To: <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> Message-ID: References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:47:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:47:08 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > In recent years I've just been creating a swap partition and one big root partition. It just seems as soon as I make all the traditional partitions, one runs out of room. > > Do you feel there are any major disadvantages of this approach? Backup of split filesystems can be easier. The traditional split-filesystem approach kind of separates things by use, and some people create a separate /home also. The advantage of one big root is efficient use of free space on small drives. > To create a swap and then a root that fills the rest of the disk, must the swap be created first, like this: > > gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 4g mirror/gm0s1 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 > > Is there any other way to tell gpart to create the / partition using all space except 4G? I'm afraid it requires one to Use Math(tm). gpart show will at least show the real capacity of a drive, instead of the diagonally-measured inflated units used by drive vendors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 00:52:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470384F4 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gezeala@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113218FC12 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z9so2279476dad.13 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=snwmfR3Gj1YzszhGZbS0iKs0IzmWPOcFPu69vBHilFs=; b=fCY6Ce+GUNdxj8pvkkYak3t5tnWZ94ohgc95bbKwUZOibIV4KZhZbMQ9ZZx2ENliB5 hl3gwDxhiXj5+mEQ97CdwqkfHcCZacZ/jrTtSu8a8mn+7SGJ/vox+3CJPHpYQ6Qfd8uk iMkcu/U6iJLhHwkGwbDXyS1UHmxCfeFx/+1TkzMKQBWrWjGhog7XmAgN2iojhtSv6lQu QVUKnKffHDvSKLZuXge661ov+gqx9Y2oWkLfqmTBXobraic0QVY4DfU8TyfEuIPjxO6M M7B6X6NJkx3ds7PYBxhAcEDXLbwnY2sa5I25OUbghIkEQSNrvVa31qK3qW00O9KuV7os G4FQ== Received: by 10.68.131.40 with SMTP id oj8mr46093868pbb.40.1351039962709; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.74.69 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:52:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gezeala_M=2E_Bacu=F1o_II?= Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:52:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: way way off topic To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Olivier Nicole , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:52:44 -0000 % change = ( (present - past) / past ) * 100 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:52:49AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:18 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> > Gary, >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: >> > > >> > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, >> > > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I >> > > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. >> > > >> > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. >> > > >> > > >> > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. >> > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? >> > >> > That should be 22/8=2.75 >> > Jim is 275% older than John >> >> Jim is 175% _older_. Why? Because 100% older means 16 years, >> as 100% refers to 8 years (8+8=16, 200% older is 8+8+8=24). >> Percentage is always a reference to something else, in this >> question, Jim's age in relation to John's. The word "older" >> means "adding percentage", refering to the base value of 8, >> "divided in 100 parts" (floating point considerations aside), >> to finally reach the value 22. >> >> If the question would be different, say, "What's the percentage >> of John's age regarding Jim's age?" In that case, it would be >> 8/22=0.3636 being 36%. Obvious: John's age is approximately >> 1/3 of Jim's age. >> >> The easiest way for creating the proper calculation is to refer >> to the equation >> >> percentage * 100 >> percentage value = ---------------- >> base value >> >> and resolve it to whatever is required. >> >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > > yo; I THInk this is it. around line 4542 in my ~/.HowTo file:: > > > > %%% find percent inc/dec [increase/decrease] between two numbers. > > Always figure the percentage of change relative to the original value! > For instance: * Suppose a certain item used to sell for seventy-five > cents a pound, you see that it's been marked up to eighty-one cents a > pound. What is the percent increase? > > First, I have to find the absolute > increase: > Reserved 81 - 75 = 6 > > The price has gone up six cents. Now I can find the > percentage increase over the original price. > > This percentage increase is the relative change: 6/75 = 0.08 > ...or an 8% increase in price per pound. > > > > So I was wrong about ages or speed; it's the % betwen two ints; > here, the inc/dec [or change] between 75 cents as compared to > an inflated increase of 81 cents. > > 1. find abs increase: 81-75 = 6; > 2 find the % increase over the *original* value. 6.0/75.0 > 3. percent increase using doubles is 0.08; so a markup of six > cents is an 8% rate. > > > so: going back to the ages example with john bein 8, jim, 22. > 22-8 is 14. > 14.0/8.0 = 1.750000 > > 175%. jim is 175% times older than john. which is what you found, > polyt. {I'll have to re-read your logic now that im awake..} > > Or, how much more, in % is 16t than 15, it is 1.0/15.0 which is 6%. > etc, etc. > > Hm. that's 0 for gary, 729 for polytrop!! > > Ah, life:: accept no substitutes. > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 01:19:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4992F705 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18AE58FC08 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9280 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2012 01:13:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.180.213.209) by p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.231) with ESMTP; 24 Oct 2012 01:13:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:13:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Gezeala =?iso-8859-1?B?TS4gQmFjdfFv?= II Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121024011305.GH29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Olivier Nicole , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:19:49 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Gezeala M. Bacuño II wrote: > % change = ( (present - past) / past ) * 100 > yeah, this is exactly it for my "how much more is 16 than 15" problem. or the ages example. It's 6.6[bar-over .6]% this is probably close to or exactly what was the core of my C [argc, *srgv[]] program. my error was in not understanding the logic that polttropon has given below. if/when I ever find that v short exercise, THIS time, il'l remember to 'splain stuff in /* * comments */ > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:52:49AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:18 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > >> > Gary, > >> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > >> > > > >> > > apologies up front for this math type quandary. I had it in a std C program, > >> > > but 3+ hours of grepping havent found it. I would have bet my last cent that I > >> > > had a summary Somewhere, but cant find that either. > >> > > > >> > > here is the problem as best I can remember it. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > let's say that john is 8 and his older friend, jim, is 22. > >> > > how much older is exact percentage terms is jim? > >> > > >> > That should be 22/8=2.75 > >> > Jim is 275% older than John > >> > >> Jim is 175% _older_. Why? Because 100% older means 16 years, > >> as 100% refers to 8 years (8+8=16, 200% older is 8+8+8=24). > >> Percentage is always a reference to something else, in this > >> question, Jim's age in relation to John's. The word "older" > >> means "adding percentage", refering to the base value of 8, > >> "divided in 100 parts" (floating point considerations aside), > >> to finally reach the value 22. > >> > >> If the question would be different, say, "What's the percentage > >> of John's age regarding Jim's age?" In that case, it would be > >> 8/22=0.3636 being 36%. Obvious: John's age is approximately > >> 1/3 of Jim's age. > >> > >> The easiest way for creating the proper calculation is to refer > >> to the equation > >> > >> percentage * 100 > >> percentage value = ---------------- > >> base value > >> > >> and resolve it to whatever is required. > >> > >> -- > >> Polytropon > >> Magdeburg, Germany > >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > > > > > yo; I THInk this is it. around line 4542 in my ~/.HowTo file:: > > > > > > > > %%% find percent inc/dec [increase/decrease] between two numbers. > > > > Always figure the percentage of change relative to the original value! > > For instance: * Suppose a certain item used to sell for seventy-five > > cents a pound, you see that it's been marked up to eighty-one cents a > > pound. What is the percent increase? > > > > First, I have to find the absolute > > increase: > > Reserved 81 - 75 = 6 > > > > The price has gone up six cents. Now I can find the > > percentage increase over the original price. > > > > This percentage increase is the relative change: 6/75 = 0.08 > > ...or an 8% increase in price per pound. > > > > > > > > So I was wrong about ages or speed; it's the % betwen two ints; > > here, the inc/dec [or change] between 75 cents as compared to > > an inflated increase of 81 cents. > > > > 1. find abs increase: 81-75 = 6; > > 2 find the % increase over the *original* value. 6.0/75.0 > > 3. percent increase using doubles is 0.08; so a markup of six > > cents is an 8% rate. > > > > > > so: going back to the ages example with john bein 8, jim, 22. > > 22-8 is 14. > > 14.0/8.0 = 1.750000 > > > > 175%. jim is 175% times older than john. which is what you found, > > polyt. {I'll have to re-read your logic now that im awake..} > > > > Or, how much more, in % is 16t than 15, it is 1.0/15.0 which is 6%. > > etc, etc. > > > > Hm. that's 0 for gary, 729 for polytrop!! > > > > Ah, life:: accept no substitutes. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 01:40:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C1EA35 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEEA8FC16 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9O1dt2G022521; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:39:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:39:55 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121024083955.59f02ffe@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121024011305.GH29440@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> <20121024011305.GH29440@ethic.thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Olivier Nicole , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List , "Gezeala M. =?UTF-8?B?QmFjdcOxbw==?= II" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:40:08 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:13:05 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Gezeala M. Bacu=C3=B1o II wrote: > if/when I ever find that v short exercise, THIS time, il'l remember to > 'splain stuff in >=20 > /* > * comments > */ >=20 your programs are not self-explanatory? 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Skype, =EA=B4=80=EB=A0=A8 =EC=83=81=ED=91=9C= =EC=99=80 =EB=A1=9C=EA=B3=A0 =EB=B0=8F "S" =EA=B8=B0=ED=98=B8=EB=8A=94 Skyp= e Limited=EC=9D=98 =EC=83=81=ED=91=9C=EC=9E=85=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. =EC=84=9C=EB=B9=84=EC=8A=A4 =EC=9D=B4=EC=9A=A9 =EC=95=BD=EA=B4=80 http://my.email.skype.com/r/0GON5U1/GB25LN/A2PR61D/JMIEUZX/N4UHKG/PN/t?a=3D= cm%5fmmc=3DEMTR|0312%5fB6-%5f-z212-%5f-0100231012KOkr%26ed_rid=3D_edid__%26= ed_mid=3D45734207 =EA=B0=9C=EC=9D=B8 =EC=A0=95=EB=B3=B4 http://my.email.skype.com/r/0GON5U1/GB25LN/A2PR61D/JMIEUZX/RDH6EC/PN/t?a=3D= cm%5fmmc=3DEMTR|0312%5fB6-%5f-z212-%5f-0100231012KOkr%26ed_rid=3D_edid__%26= ed_mid=3D45734207 [[0GON5U1-DOEE6B-GB25LN-A2PR61D-JMIEUZX-M-M2-20121023-c1328030425a]] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 03:27:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BB228E for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D438FC0C for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 16so43895wgi.31 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:27:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AgxYagai+aGbcG8nbLmSXE0hVod3Au66eyLQDMioWYo=; b=KRA1AtQdKYtJQGnV66GCa4wbCkMjnNEgGwksMwaNNorDhR6raJpiWT68m7vO/8r2p7 K+DaFdt8cMarY9XoSSSIfbtaxr0QiNhGK9h39qrQHwAZ2YbMsCLCqHAGaOv0WU7Jv/5d swPrn5qbyLwQchVTJY0bhGCJbpl/ihsUUQ/sxvj5wW1rvbOcecpqhp8BFcXdTp6CuCaI Jrp53qnfBBU+zllLKhb2kpoW5/eb4FZ+L/wwyLuieGWUQu9dYAFy0K5Vq9LCUQLyvsyZ 71VSUwenea1jp+P2syeTyiyrpvTl27rC2VnI3GLy/8ViCz8HpIC8rALVzwr6E8stSYCd 7Tqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.142.25 with SMTP id h25mr9129475wej.157.1351049225317; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.58.1 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:27:05 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: n3NVl9JV1Q7J_pyIz4KkQ9VqFSY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strange system messages in 8.3 From: Olivier Nicole To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:27:06 -0000 Hi, > Two night ago, I upgraded my main server to FreeBSD 8.3 and since, I > get those messages: > > Message from syslogd@banyan at Oct 19 01:15:32 ... > banyan kernel: ) >[...] > I have all my servers running the same release, and this is the only > on exibiting such behavious. > > FreeBSD banyan.cs.ait.ac.th 8.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p4 #5: > Wed Oct 17 18:32:54 ICT 2012 > root@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CSIM amd64 > > The custom kernel only includes quota, nothing fancy, rest is generic. > > What these messages could be? I have updated to Samba 3.6 and still get the following errors. Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.566992, 1, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] printing/printer_list.c:94(printer_list_get_printer) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: Failed to fetch record! Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.606964, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/fault.c:51(fault_report) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: =============================================================== Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.606994, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/fault.c:52(fault_report) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: INTERNAL ERROR: Signal 11 in pid 17753 (3.6.7) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: Please read the Trouble-Shooting section of the Samba3-HOWTO Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.607020, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/fault.c:54(fault_report) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: pid Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: 53O Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: 2 Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: (<1s18m>bd4 Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: 9:), Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: u0:4 Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: :4 e Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan syslogd: /dev/ttyp4: No such file or directory Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan syslogd: /dev/olivier:: No such file or directory Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: xi<1te18d >o5 Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: <6ba>nn Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: s<1i1g8>nay Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: an<6> l Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: 6<1 Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan kernel: 18>smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.607020, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/fault.c:54(fault_report) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: From: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba3-HOWTO.pdf Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.607044, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/fault.c:55(fault_report) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: =============================================================== Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.607068, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/util.c:1117(smb_panic) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: PANIC (pid 17753): internal error Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.607142, 0, pid=17753, effective(7186, 97), real(0, 0)] lib/util.c:1221(log_stack_trace) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: BACKTRACE: 0 stack frames: Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.607191, 0, pid=17753, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] lib/fault.c:416(dump_core) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: dumping core in /var/log/samba/cores/smbd Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[17753]: Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[57965]: [2012/10/24 09:49:45.678295, 0, pid=57965, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] smbd/server.c:433(smbd_accept_connection) Oct 24 09:49:45 banyan smbd[57965]: open_sockets_smbd: accept: Software caused connection abort Help will be highly welcome. Best regards, Olivier > > Best regards, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 08:23:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981FB39B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE038FC08 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B18276B9; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:23:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9O8NH7m002016; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:23:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:23:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-Id: <20121024102317.a05054cd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121024083955.59f02ffe@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> <20121024011305.GH29440@ethic.thought.org> <20121024083955.59f02ffe@X220.ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:25 -0000 On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:39:55 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:13:05 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Gezeala M. Bacu=F1o II wrote: > > if/when I ever find that v short exercise, THIS time, il'l remember to > > 'splain stuff in > >=20 > > /* > > * comments > > */ > >=20 > your programs are not self-explanatory? That's not modern today anymore. :-) /* * this function is void, * it takes no args, * one of them is not a nickel, * adds minus 1 to the result * and then branches to register #14 */ setpicardcolor(); /* 4 lights! */ :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 09:21:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A50CCF2 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC1B8FC14 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9O9LV6Z029396; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:21:33 -0600 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:21:31 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Subject: Re: way way off topic Message-ID: <20121024162131.0b3a5b0a@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121024102317.a05054cd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023085249.5c742ccc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121024000714.GG29440@ethic.thought.org> <20121024011305.GH29440@ethic.thought.org> <20121024083955.59f02ffe@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121024102317.a05054cd.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:21:45 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:23:17 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:39:55 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:13:05 -0700 > > Gary Kline wrote: > >=20 > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Gezeala M. Bacu=C3=B1o II > > > wrote: if/when I ever find that v short exercise, THIS time, il'l > > > remember to 'splain stuff in > > >=20 > > > /* > > > * comments > > > */ > > >=20 > > your programs are not self-explanatory? >=20 > That's not modern today anymore. :-) >=20 >=20 > /* > * this function is void, > * it takes no args, > * one of them is not a nickel, > * adds minus 1 to the result > * and then branches to register #14 > */ > setpicardcolor(); /* 4 lights! */ >=20 this is so Seventies! Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 14:31:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C0FD6F for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778A8FC16 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TR1zt-0003CV-Mz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:31:53 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:31:53 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:31:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: way way off topic Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <20121023042007.GA14738@ethic.thought.org> <20121023113436.6748c811@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121023225154.GE29440@ethic.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:31:49 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:51:54 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > lets say that x == 15 and y == 16. 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Skype, =EA=B4=80=EB=A0=A8 =EC=83=81=ED=91=9C= =EC=99=80 =EB=A1=9C=EA=B3=A0 =EB=B0=8F "S" =EA=B8=B0=ED=98=B8=EB=8A=94 Skyp= e Limited=EC=9D=98 =EC=83=81=ED=91=9C=EC=9E=85=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. =EC=84=9C=EB=B9=84=EC=8A=A4 =EC=9D=B4=EC=9A=A9 =EC=95=BD=EA=B4=80 http://my.email.skype.com/r/4021KHB/WXJA8J/0TIHEEG/5TCR04A/N4UHKG/T1/t?a=3D= cm%5fmmc=3DEMTR|0312%5fB6-%5f-z212-%5f-0100241012KOkr%26ed_rid=3D_edid__%26= ed_mid=3D45734207 =EA=B0=9C=EC=9D=B8 =EC=A0=95=EB=B3=B4 http://my.email.skype.com/r/4021KHB/WXJA8J/0TIHEEG/5TCR04A/RDH6EC/T1/t?a=3D= cm%5fmmc=3DEMTR|0312%5fB6-%5f-z212-%5f-0100241012KOkr%26ed_rid=3D_edid__%26= ed_mid=3D45734207 [[4021KHB-LM3372-WXJA8J-0TIHEEG-5TCR04A-M-M2-20121024-c4dd8218cba2]] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 20:10:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE90911 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235C58FC0A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C20A46082 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:10:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50884B4A.1030603@bnrlabs.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:10:50 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <50841872.3060305@johnea.net> In-Reply-To: <50841872.3060305@johnea.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:10:57 -0000 On 2012.10.21 17:44, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > On 10/21/2012 07:32 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: >> >>> On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >>>> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of >>>> creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? >>> >>> I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article >>> or a discussion where this issue is described ? >> >> The GPT backup partition tables goes at the end of a disk, the same >> place gmirror(8) and other GEOM modules keep metadata. If GPT >> partitions are created inside a mirror, the backup GPT table is no >> longer at the end of the disk. Hiroki Sato created a patch which fixed >> the gptboot complaints, but there was concern about the nonstandard >> location of the backup table. >> >> At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). > > Thank you Warren. That sums it up. > > It also seems "greedy" of GPT to require both the first and last sectors > of the disk. This seems to almost guarantee it will have issues with > other low level disk formatting tools. Of course, given the history of > the "WinTel" partnership, perhaps not interoperating with other tools > was a design specification 8-) What surprises me is that GEOM mirror provides a logical device that doesn't abstract the parts that hold its own metadata. It so happens that GPT wants to use one of those parts, but doesn't creating an MBR partition that spans the whole provider up to the last logical block create a similar - but in this case latent - problem, once that last block is written to by a filesystem living inside that partition ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 20:20:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB2FCA9 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EE48FC0C for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0A846082 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:20:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50884D8D.2010006@bnrlabs.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:20:29 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <50841872.3060305@johnea.net> <50884B4A.1030603@bnrlabs.com> In-Reply-To: <50884B4A.1030603@bnrlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:20:28 -0000 On 2012.10.24 22:10, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: > On 2012.10.21 17:44, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >> On 10/21/2012 07:32 AM, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: >>> >>>> On 2012.10.20 20:17, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >>>>> Just wondering if 9.1 will bring any improvement to the situation of >>>>> creating a full disk geom mirror while also using GPT partition table? >>>> >>>> I'm curious about what this is about. Could you refer me to an article >>>> or a discussion where this issue is described ? >>> >>> The GPT backup partition tables goes at the end of a disk, the same >>> place gmirror(8) and other GEOM modules keep metadata. If GPT >>> partitions are created inside a mirror, the backup GPT table is no >>> longer at the end of the disk. Hiroki Sato created a patch which fixed >>> the gptboot complaints, but there was concern about the nonstandard >>> location of the backup table. >>> >>> At present, MBR partitioning is recommended with gmirror(8). >> >> Thank you Warren. That sums it up. >> > >> It also seems "greedy" of GPT to require both the first and last sectors >> of the disk. This seems to almost guarantee it will have issues with >> other low level disk formatting tools. Of course, given the history of >> the "WinTel" partnership, perhaps not interoperating with other tools >> was a design specification 8-) > > What surprises me is that GEOM mirror provides a logical device that > doesn't abstract the parts that hold its own metadata. It so happens > that GPT wants to use one of those parts, but doesn't creating an MBR > partition that spans the whole provider up to the last logical block > create a similar - but in this case latent - problem, once that last > block is written to by a filesystem living inside that partition ? Nevermind, I just got this. It's code working at the physical device level that gets confused and complains about a missing GPT backup in the single disks it examines; not code that's working against the provided GEOM mirror once it's assembled. My first understanding felt so weird, I knew I was missing something ! I guess Hiroki Sato's patch Warren mentions doesn't answer the "danger of overwriting gmirror metadata by an "unfriendly" UEFI-BIOS", though. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 20:50:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD41476F for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frantisek@farka.eu) Received: from vps.myspace.cz (farka.eu [46.28.108.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355BD8FC17 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([145.97.236.167]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps.myspace.cz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q9OK0PhF024308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:00:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:00:26 +0200 From: Frantisek Farka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Acpi suspend - screen does not wake up Message-ID: <20121024220026.147c03aa@farka.eu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.12; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:50:27 -0000 Hi, I have recently installed freebsd-9.1RC on my thinkpad t420i laptop and I have run into some problems regarding acpi suspend/resume. When I run # acpiconf -s 3 Computer seem to suspend correctly, but when I wake it up, laptop seems to resume correctly except the screen stays dark. I have made dmesg dump after boot with verbose booting: http://files.farka.eu/pub/fari-tpt420i.dmesg and acpidump: http://files.farka.eu/pub/fari-tpt420i.asl I tried to boot without acpi, but the system did not boot at all. I have also tried suspend with # sysctl debug.acpi.suspend_bounce=1 and this is a resulting dmesg during suspend: http://files.farka.eu/pub/fari-tpt420i.suspend I haven't found any problem connected to LCD/screen or something like that. Do you have any idea what to do in order to make suspend/resume working? Thanks Frantisek Farka From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 01:24:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF0DEF3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812F38FC12 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so2067856iea.13 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=5thv8wRoDp3h2fpho1XhlgV7z3qjHhJ2crJxAdB5cvE=; b=SQxbjv+lpqNFbjXRgOnRVH3DCbYdTKbBXhAAgzx/+F2xRvHFY4G7gP4dci8C+k0ug0 +JEmqAJpQpwTazvjYYyDAs/KvQVP9VJ9AFhKMaMLvTL6RiuRWpztIs4lc8Wx/Jl5hya1 dSFbDn2mhIsespbP6L4x2+Gc2SjzP8P0fcsICsNNzTjKjNOalzG9sio/Jrkqqip1F+TV vcURlQa3U5VQyM6ha1dK/u4IhuP8TSfLcMXlqJPytx/F5adEfNflK3a/oBySRcnoTCNK HB1hoHw7qTescFW+55KWrt7z9H61TtZcawHtn385LIJScDDfe7GvnXrpOGXtKqhJhW2T +oEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.130 with SMTP id i2mr2973393igq.56.1351128238853; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.49.67 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.183.64] In-Reply-To: <20121019135737.bf3ada15.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201210191038.q9JAcmq7073341@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20121019135737.bf3ada15.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:23:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyWV6y4gJaVYhH63lKi2kYLjuPv4dXgXkvBq0lOzaFWlY6q3D+yroN7gaTkC7HXpF3WHEa Cc: mexas@bristol.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:24:00 -0000 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:38:48 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> Anyway, I think I've heard there are some laptops >> with no BIOS, is this true? > > Per termini technici, yes. > > Some systems use EFI (or UEFI) instead of a BIOS. It's > comparable to a much more advanced (than BIOS) micro-OS > that initializes the hardware, connectes to the Internet, > tells the manufacturer what you're doing and keeps limiting > you in what you are allowed to install. :-) Heh... ;-) (U)EFI is nothing new for us old farts: we've had OpenBoot[1] on Sun hardware for ages, and even though it didn't limit us w.r.t. the OS you wanted to boot (that's why you can install FreeBSD/sparc64 on used Sun machines), it had its issues too. Mainly that it needed a counter-part in hardware peripherals. E.g.: without F-Code in ROM, a PCI-based frame buffer wouldn't be usable there, because it wouldn't reply to the OpenBoot queries. The point is that firmware CAN be a mini-OS and more powerful than PC-BIOS. There's nothing wrong with that, and the flexibility of OFW/OpenBoot was for us sysadmins invaluable, esp. with diskless machines. What's wrong, is UEFI's DRM-scheme used to prevent non-signed code to be loaded... without mandating in the specs that the BIOS vendor MUST allow the device owner to add his/her own keys to it. That's the evil part of it. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 01:55:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8376C8EE for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4384B8FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so1193702iag.13 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:55:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Au4/Vnr61ZWohHS+t0MY6zyhYIck7OoJvWLVAaRKhUA=; b=jlX+BhR4PtnQJQ7tQM5Pg55DaT60wv+ghijY7Wv/bcxd+wxNbRr/HauRxxldEJzclL 9YwId9JbhoEBgFFOPHi5+Fy2eWxuVq7kfMeA7cFZvOHR4Z/WZntc4quMpsCOwSEZ3ma1 KycB+bK9vE+Jq0L+WXvr5oR4/eVsqF7TPsiuLeTPpNIlr80VNUHoEWTatVrlG/+AfYNN 21EtXuYwQ4ipe5e0sj6Gi6RkVJkM/yLhOEruODKbbJDLkJ2HFfVokKrUv3X8CdcZBgLM vto+2qHtoL3ecmMqZF9ikE+zZvT+29z7yo2JdbUuCrQNv4T/Zu+T3e+uJDjlaktW0IcI WjVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.156.232 with SMTP id wh8mr4532155igb.56.1351130109178; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.49.67 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:55:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.177.130] In-Reply-To: <20121023125300.GA2095@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20121023125300.GA2095@tiny.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:55:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: port of wayland? From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkV7q5/LRfiQHoM3pE2Ang+nkt/6fXsmm7UFdkncsL28DVUU67ceFqbxiB6wl6IjUsCNMCO Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:55:10 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there work in progress to bring http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ > into the ports collection? I don't think that this will happen anytime soon. There are way too many Linuxisms in Wayland: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=19081 But I may be wrong: they could have started moving towards other platforms recently (?). IMHO, there's much more pressing need for some really *useful* work on FreeBSD, like, say, finally getting Xen/Dom0 support. This, and ZFS, would be a killer app in data centers all around the world! ;-) Let the Linux guys get Wayland up and running smoothly enough, then we may think of porting evdev and other Linuxisms into a new compatibility shim. > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org > E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail > WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments > phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 06:28:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2100050C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@tigris.org) Received: from sc157-tigr.sjc.collab.net (sc157.sjc.collab.net [204.16.104.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB488FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sc157-tigr.sjc.collab.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sc157-tigr.sjc.collab.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EC354009C for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:28:13 -0700 (PDT) From: admin@subversion.tigris.org To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1351146493476@subversion.tigris.org> Subject: Notice about your recent message to dev-help@subversion.tigris.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:28:14 -0000 We are sorry, but this discussion does not exist. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 06:42:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930366A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0A68FC14 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TRH8k-00032r-CV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:42:03 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:42:02 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:42:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: kernel config Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 10 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:42:00 -0000 Hi, what controls how parts of kernel are built, that is, built-in or modular ? For example, I want to: - build a kernel that has eveything built in - build a kernel that has everything possible (what controls the impossible ?) built as modules - build a kernel that has mixed support, e.g. support for cd9660 fs built-in and ext2fs as module jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 07:04:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93512A0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashkan82r@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AA68FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z9so677893dad.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rRXkHDeEJDv/LeJsIHtFhiq9PBUlGIOAiOq1zm7RBNE=; b=I67JsS3ezFLxCWt+x9rxqAi5Z9ao6APhgSbJDlRivfKn/4QmEBTdLg5eOx6KAS8R/A Cp7OCHWSjn+7ejakSMZh1TQLeVrv4KD3NtLCgXPQbYbVN3Gnn3DgZqrESsbV85WmDHHg TIlxqtiEfBJGsE0hzBUg+WxuHPyGFd4dKFhOrI/TU9N+rvCAQipS0+EG4WCF5yBdqFrd Xt13r0l4UGaAxkA1FcBP8Xg0AzZahE9G+eIRZmO/xDQq4gqHr7L5KtTvhdqQu6YKqriZ ydbTvc65I9Iqj/uAiSIYUFTIoqurFJDX2JtHl6bXZqigJHXk8jK2SErpPlRHMRvK/fhe YnYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.234.201 with SMTP id ug9mr15769230pbc.63.1351148673606; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.48.202 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:34:33 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: NVIDIA proprietary driver error From: Ashkan Rahmani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:04:34 -0000 Hi, I'm going to install driver for nvidia 310M cuda enabled, but I have some problem with it. First I tried with Nvidia driver from ports, and then official driver from nvidia.com (It's name is NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-304.60.tar.gz). After running nvidia-xconfig I got this error: (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 304.60 Sun Oct 14 20:29:31 PDT 2012 > (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs > (II) Primary Device is: > (EE) No devices detected. > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > But aftre running Xor -configure and copy xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf finally I can start X server! wow! But problem is still exist in another way! Monitor resolution must be 1366x768 xxx but resolution is 1024x768 and with lag. this is link to my Xorg.conf generated by Xorg -configure: download here linux_enable="YES" is in /etc/rc.conf . nvidia_load="YES" is in /boot/loader.conf . --- Best Regards, Ashkan R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 07:06:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8F9B42 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF978FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9P74tSM004104; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:05:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:04:53 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: jb Subject: Re: kernel config Message-ID: <20121025140453.06fbf81e@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:06:41 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:41:44 +0000 (UTC) jb wrote: > Hi, > what controls how parts of kernel are built, that is, built-in or > modular ? For example, I want to: > - build a kernel that has eveything built in this is normally not possible as some thing conflict which each other. But most things work together. > - build a kernel that has everything possible (what controls the > impossible ?) built as modules All modules are build anyway. > - build a kernel that has mixed support, e.g. support for cd9660 fs > built-in and ext2fs as module Just check how a custom kernel is build. You can then build three versions of it. One with nothing, one with the modules you want and one with the non-conflicting modules build-in. Just read the handbook regarding custom kernels. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 07:26:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D52E9D for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EDD8FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TRHq2-0004uI-EL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:26:46 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:26:46 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:26:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: kernel config Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20121025140453.06fbf81e@X220.ovitrap.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:26:40 -0000 Erich Dollansky ovitrap.com> writes: > ... > Just check how a custom kernel is build. You can then build three > versions of it. One with nothing, one with the modules you want and one > with the non-conflicting modules build-in. > > Just read the handbook regarding custom kernels. > ... I have already read all docs :-) The problem is I still do not get it ... I understand that files sys/conf/NOTES and sys//conf/NOTES contain directive lines like 'device', 'options', 'machine', 'ident', 'maxusers', 'makeoptions' etc that the user may place in the kernel configuration that she will run config(8) with. What is the specific mechanism (directive in GENERIC file, or something else in GENERIC file or elsewhere) that says build support for cd9660 fs as built-in and ext2fs as module, or entire kernel as built-in, or entire kernel as modular (except things that must be built-in, but then what things and where is this specified) ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 07:51:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4E9343 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768958FC17 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9P7pcB6015717; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:51:40 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:51:38 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: jb Subject: Re: kernel config Message-ID: <20121025145138.10c1f745@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20121025140453.06fbf81e@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:51:42 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:26:27 +0000 (UTC) jb wrote: > Erich Dollansky ovitrap.com> writes: > > > ... > > Just check how a custom kernel is build. You can then build three > > versions of it. One with nothing, one with the modules you want and > > one with the non-conflicting modules build-in. > > > > Just read the handbook regarding custom kernels. > > ... > > I have already read all docs :-) > The problem is I still do not get it ... > ok, the I hope that I will get what you want. > I understand that files sys/conf/NOTES and sys//conf/NOTES > contain directive lines like 'device', 'options', 'machine', 'ident', > 'maxusers', 'makeoptions' etc that the user may place in the kernel > configuration that she will run config(8) with. > Yes, taken them as examples. > What is the specific mechanism (directive in GENERIC file, or You copy GENERIC into a new file i.e. ALLOPTIONS and set then is this file the options you want. You would need three files like this. ALLOPTIONS, NOOPTIONS and MYOPTIONS as an example. NOOPTIONS would then contain all options removed which you do not want. Be careful here as you might get a kernel which will not boot anymore. MYOPTIONS will contain then the options you would like to have in your kernel. Of course, you can use any other names you want to use. > something else in GENERIC file or elsewhere) that says build support > for cd9660 fs as built-in and ext2fs as module, or entire kernel as The modules are always build, at least to my knowledge. So, you do not need any options for this. You just need to load them later. > built-in, or entire kernel as modular (except things that must be > built-in, but then what things and where is this specified) ? Did you get what I wrote up there or was this not what you want to do? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 08:09:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895397FA for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD7E8FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIEn-0002gj-Df; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:52:25 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIEm-0004mo-Sv; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:52:20 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9P7qKSj090056; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:52:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9P7qKPW090055; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:52:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:52:20 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201210250752.q9P7qKPW090055@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -3.9 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: mexas@bristol.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:09 -0000 From cpghost@cordula.ws Thu Oct 25 03:40:28 2012 Heh... ;-) (U)EFI is nothing new for us old farts: we've had OpenBoot[1] on Sun hardware for ages, and even though it didn't limit us w.r.t. the OS you wanted to boot (that's why you can install FreeBSD/sparc64 on used Sun machines), it had its issues too. Mainly that it needed a counter-part in hardware peripherals. E.g.: without F-Code in ROM, a PCI-based frame buffer wouldn't be usable there, because it wouldn't reply to the OpenBoot queries. The point is that firmware CAN be a mini-OS and more powerful than PC-BIOS. There's nothing wrong with that, and the flexibility of OFW/OpenBoot was for us sysadmins invaluable, esp. with diskless machines. What's wrong, is UEFI's DRM-scheme used to prevent non-signed code to be loaded... without mandating in the specs that the BIOS vendor MUST allow the device owner to add his/her own keys to it. That's the evil part of it. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware I'm probably missing something here. ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing about checking for "non-signed" code. I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc. And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g. USB flash drives is trivial on ia64. Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI specification iteself, but what different manufacturers add on top of it? Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 08:09:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E122692E for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBA68FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIVY-0005iF-NC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:09:42 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:09:40 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:09:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: kernel config Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20121025140453.06fbf81e@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121025145138.10c1f745@X220.ovitrap.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:09:39 -0000 Erich Dollansky ovitrap.com> writes: > ... What decides about that (built-in or module) ? # kldstat -v |grep cd9660 414 cd9660 # kldstat -v |grep ext2fs 15 1 0xc9911000 11000 ext2fs.ko (/boot/kernel/ext2fs.ko) 538 ext2fs jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 08:19:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0FDB29 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96138FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2739E65AF; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:23:31 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=mail; bh= 6GYrs1UfaWSwwAcIcA6gpMriOIw=; b=odTaQWKwj9ay+X8+ogNc4SjPeSPekBpC eSUQa76CCHiG0/9MFf4tkWOZxc8+gpAk0QwZV5zdoebQoEIZzqqZMXm+SXPlpKT/ vUDckKJtYEycQL+Vvf0cWMkmJ7iFlDuJgTrkdRW1pWko/ebz0KPBuHfljV9rxdOf F87T+7kxNpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= mail; b=PHT1mZxTeAuMFDfiA9jgthBj5yyzVVCrS6fN3bK6WqYROrEY9yIc0yrw Nl9l1ktmI0x50DFBLb9GS7RpOlSSK90RtA3NZlOoY8Lb29NEt0/7UwUYYdis2uWC n6038tQc+Nb4ogyP1oxgU89tGwa6hiLIpmmm6vGVAszfsz41zEw= Received: from [192.168.1.233] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70444E65A0; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:23:31 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain From: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <201210250752.q9P7qKPW090055@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:19:44 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <12874F2A-8A60-4D31-B090-0B9F1E4E7806@cran.org.uk> References: <201210250752.q9P7qKPW090055@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:19:54 -0000 On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht = wrote: > I'm probably missing something here. > ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing > about checking for "non-signed" code. > I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc. > And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g. > USB flash drives is trivial on ia64. > Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI > specification iteself, but what > different manufacturers add on top of it? It's in the latest UEFI spec - see = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_= boot . --=20 Bruce Cran= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 08:32:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFC9D55 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446118FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:32:17 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8EAGD4iFDLevdH/2dsb2JhbABEvluES4IeAQEEAThBBQsLGAkTAw8JAwIBAgFFBg0BBwEBh3oFvT2LYYZtA6YsgwI Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 25 Oct 2012 19:02:18 +1030 Message-ID: <5088F721.7080703@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:54:01 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121017 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ashkan Rahmani Subject: Re: NVIDIA proprietary driver error References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:32:19 -0000 On 25/10/2012 17:34, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > Hi, > I'm going to install driver for nvidia 310M cuda enabled, but I have some > problem with it. > Monitor resolution must be 1366x768 xxx but resolution is 1024x768 and > with lag. Sounds like your on a laptop? model details could be helpful if someone else has tried on that machine. Do you have a second monitor connected or is that an error coming from the second gpu built-in to the cpu? I would try removing the screen 1 line from serverlayout as well as the matching screen and monitor 1 details as well as the intel graphics device section - disconnecting a second monitor if it is connected. Change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" and try that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 08:40:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484F12D3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A18FC16 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIzF-00062k-Hc; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:25 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRIzF-00074F-D0; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:21 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9P8eLT6005918; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9P8eK7v005917; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: bruce@cran.org.uk, mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain In-Reply-To: <12874F2A-8A60-4D31-B090-0B9F1E4E7806@cran.org.uk> X-Spam-Score: -3.9 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:40:26 -0000 From bruce@cran.org.uk Thu Oct 25 09:22:33 2012 On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm probably missing something here. > ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing > about checking for "non-signed" code. > I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc. > And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g. > USB flash drives is trivial on ia64. > Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI > specification iteself, but what > different manufacturers add on top of it? It's in the latest UEFI spec - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot . -- Bruce Cran fuck.. I'm out of touch. So this means I might not be able to boot freebsd at all on future ia64 boxes.. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 09:01:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04F3D5C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EEC8FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B428E65AF; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:04:58 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=mail; bh= uifJXj+0mAfr9dE+GT0i+lXYkJo=; b=CWxm89ih0yaqTbGvK/Fqvnv3QteZIvNv KR+Ts6UHZpGKGeIhYvoyFiNYYj9YWmYXs09pI0DE7aUJInup5PxWJDeiOPR7B6vE iALdY+xDyNePyOItBxHx1mbiyc9VNbsIxquhT4GrVh18EFgxuhVOHq1FEp9ItKB0 ia2Ap6ZwXFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= mail; b=BV96j/ad3siEIvzRr6OLGPMbHPhhR7gWlaUHwetGnSJ3oPZ35p/EmF+m RTp2QbSIAJ2ZYGWd/RkD/WCFl0BIoePCFDhQ7GpNaejBkiw1IEVsGtuJFkyou2tl IIBpyq3mpyPfkT+lK9zbkOCneAeSVlGToUGMtXvv8BZGBqfJwr0= Received: from [192.168.1.233] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BD05E65A0; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:04:58 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain From: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:01:11 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:01:13 -0000 On 25 Oct 2012, at 09:40, Anton Shterenlikht = wrote: > So this means I might not > be able to boot freebsd at all > on future ia64 boxes.. Ignore the FUD - there will be an option to disable it in the = firmware/BIOS settings. --=20 Bruce Cran= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 09:05:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF3C1D6 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E18FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE233405; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:05:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9P95W8T001938; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:05:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:05:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: kernel config Message-Id: <20121025110532.1e1e438c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121025145138.10c1f745@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20121025140453.06fbf81e@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121025145138.10c1f745@X220.ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:05:40 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:51:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > The modules are always build, at least to my knowledge. So, you do not > need any options for this. You just need to load them later. The means of /etc/src.conf can be used to skip certain things during a kernel + world build. For example, WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH will prevent building BT-related kernel modules and utilities. See "man src.conf" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 09:09:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59E73E3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A127D8FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4039276E8; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:09:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9P99BNi001942; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:09:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:09:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain Message-Id: <20121025110911.4942c819.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <12874F2A-8A60-4D31-B090-0B9F1E4E7806@cran.org.uk> <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:09:13 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > From bruce@cran.org.uk Thu Oct 25 09:22:33 2012 > > > On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I'm probably missing something here. > > ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing > > about checking for "non-signed" code. > > I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc. > > And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g. > > USB flash drives is trivial on ia64. > > Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI > > specification iteself, but what > > different manufacturers add on top of it? > > > It's in the latest UEFI spec - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot . > > -- > Bruce Cran > > fuck.. I'm out of touch. > So this means I might not > be able to boot freebsd at all > on future ia64 boxes.. There probably won't be much ia64 boxes in the future. You should worry to not be able to run FreeBSD on ARM, and maybe even later on "normal" x86 (amd64) hardware, if specific interested parties should get their will... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 09:21:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A00971 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3FB8FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE1D3A386F for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:36 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1351156836; x=1352971237; bh=zNjk/0+Kr dLas608JhVQGY1axJy3QHNS4GUMLJN3nh8=; b=Ah/tSaVRIanK7FXDld8ZGN+cG HAtRrJfv922GgCubWUBSuAlzy9pptSwpD/xgImz5kUbPP1+xcU/c1U7f1bHzBxAo TiS0bNDOV91YRWXBfg+85DXOygs1UeY5hbpc1NGIOFo0mgDF2RBFqaSe5vfkOWVY AvSgvEJ5D4UMxrmisw= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bpJPXBbncKSr for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 506323A3868 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9P9KZIJ023501; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:35 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:35 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:21:03 -0000 Hi, The network card on my HP 4300 is definitely dead. All I am left with is a... parallel port! But the printer is still working fine, printing fast and in good quality. I don't want to invest in a new network card though, while I have a bunchg of old systems lying around. Solutions are: 1) I set-up a small FreeBSD box, with printer spooler, and all my quota stuff; 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on the original print server. Any cue for the option 2? Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 10:41:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEB5869 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7638FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=rpi-1.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRK9u-0000Sl-OG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:55:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by rpi-1.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRKEM-0003FD-46 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:00:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:59:52 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Message-Id: <20121025105952.5ea050522f465431c7936a48@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:41:56 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:35 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: > 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet > port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on > the original print server. There are very cheap network print servers available, finding one with parallel might be harder. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 10:52:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0334B6F for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B16A8FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEBB277C7; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:52:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9PAqrfg002206; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:52:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:52:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Message-Id: <20121025125253.b2a414a0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121025105952.5ea050522f465431c7936a48@sohara.org> References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20121025105952.5ea050522f465431c7936a48@sohara.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:52:55 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:59:52 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:35 +0700 (ICT) > Olivier Nicole wrote: > > > 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet > > port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on > > the original print server. > > There are very cheap network print servers available, finding one > with parallel might be harder. I have one of them here: "Cisco Systems Linksys Wireless-G printserver for USB 2.0", model no. WPS54GU2: parallel, USB, network and antenna. :-) In worst case, using a PC-based server to expose the system's lpr (with attached printer filter to parallel port, e. g. via apsfilter, CUPS, or simply PS without anything else) should be no problem. It would then appear on the network to be used as "lpr to IP address", just as the original printer would have been. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 11:10:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D449F8C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5C18FC14 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x43so982237wey.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZWCpKH+u77RMQaLZSz+nqBfxeZxsLfod64ucVtIjkgo=; b=GQDfWumyk3UKh8aeupQnv+DOaZDoMlIkxDa329ZA0uhv8QDDpTBK5nGxT2CbYXxF1f xmPprhQ2ZSeVZRs2V785RjXZkyIPj56g6RNg/A1zYvoYXYTwaHOdngaTkfeQWEajGOdN YPEQwqelcfIIr2l8ZapPcUgGnZ+ktoBfKoPDYc0bTKeQ0lkrLr+a6ik7dLf+yTSXw0jc uNN7Wo56ReoZPkeW6NWMWBV86qQW+9rCmVYBNTQ/qOksjn23eWMcXqamPwpZ4G10nQst nJFy/entNpxKVIKi7FMtu+z9pRE1gQTueOd8I3vC5mFQw3AwuP94wACvarpdulZ4C8KU JPFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.142.25 with SMTP id h25mr11998975wej.157.1351163413973; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.58.1 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:10:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121025125253.b2a414a0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20121025105952.5ea050522f465431c7936a48@sohara.org> <20121025125253.b2a414a0.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:10:13 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uppSHJlo-n_T3NH3CYjxwDiCk-c Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server From: Olivier Nicole To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:10:15 -0000 On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:59:52 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:35 +0700 (ICT) >> Olivier Nicole wrote: >> >> > 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet >> > port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on >> > the original print server. >> >> There are very cheap network print servers available, finding one >> with parallel might be harder. > > I have one of them here: "Cisco Systems Linksys Wireless-G > printserver for USB 2.0", model no. WPS54GU2: parallel, USB, > network and antenna. :-) > > In worst case, using a PC-based server to expose the system's > lpr (with attached printer filter to parallel port, e. g. via > apsfilter, CUPS, or simply PS without anything else) should be > no problem. It would then appear on the network to be used > as "lpr to IP address", just as the original printer would > have been. Not exactly, as I was not using PS (tcp port 515) to connect to the printer, but telnet to port 9100, that is bi-directional and where I can read the page count. I am digging along the line of netgraph, but ther eis no netgraph for parallel port :( Thank you, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 11:23:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59CD351 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5E88FC17 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=rpi-1.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRLT0-0001Kp-6K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by rpi-1.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRLXW-0003K7-Mv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:23:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:23:44 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Message-Id: <20121025122344.4005aa68c88fc0c2b3b73865@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20121025105952.5ea050522f465431c7936a48@sohara.org> <20121025125253.b2a414a0.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:23:48 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:10:13 +0700 Olivier Nicole wrote: > I am digging along the line of netgraph, but ther eis no netgraph for > parallel port :( If there was it would be a connection to a PLIP network - actually I'd be surprised if there wasn't. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 12:23:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2173372 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5768FC14 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20121025122327.DJXL1732.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net>; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:23:27 +0100 Received: from [94.168.171.147] (helo=MERCURY.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TRMT6-0000Is-1d; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:23:24 +0100 Received: from MERCURY.universe.galaxy.lcl ([::1]) by MERCURY.universe.galaxy.lcl ([::1]) with mapi; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:23:23 +0100 From: Graeme Dargie To: 'Olivier Nicole' , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Thread-Topic: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Thread-Index: AQHNspIeWlUVIK2DQ0GSMY6Wz9jY7pfJ8T/Q Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:23:20 +0000 Message-ID: <14980AB869AD6B47A8803DB297CD2192222C10CD@MERCURY.universe.galaxy.lcl> References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AUhbpHVS+xhHrj9wLCYAQoYnFLYUZdbP8UM0GmH2jwk= c=1 sm=0 a=GPrKblRV03cA:10 a=OMdUhd4NiskA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=ivkwRA_Cz-kzx3ROIUUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=mj3400sUDGRB7rIq:21 a=jKTOV5zsPBR_1CVS:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:23:36 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Nicole Sent: 25 October 2012 10:21 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Hi, The network card on my HP 4300 is definitely dead. All I am left with is a.= .. parallel port! But the printer is still working fine, printing fast and in good quality. I don't want to invest in a new network card though, while I have a bunchg = of old systems lying around. Solutions are: 1) I set-up a small FreeBSD box, with printer spooler, and all my quota stuff; 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on the original print server. Any cue for the option 2? Best regards, Olivier _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman= /listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " You might be able to dig up a network to parallel port jet direct box fairl= y cheap from a well known auction site. 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Truly yours, Abraham Cua Lopez The Marsid-M&M Group 245 Westbury Avenue, Carle Place, NY-11514 Phone: +1 212-359-1688 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 13:11:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC183F47 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820A88FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so1661644iag.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:11:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=Sz7iOmtQHgvmRzyFW475mcp2okBc+urQ1MR0fIuJ+4U=; b=RmO15WWkgaNyuLfpA/VzzUE/pcxShIgt7K42APr4EOB3RLwo+bexY+R0R5j+pteRve dbfkRUa4++3UUAj0sbbt9q5vma5xiCRXVOyYVyvx73B3uECcrPjHnVl7CDaN82cU7Gam ms691YVOfyALMzdoi/4E7qY9vh5jPzRTpS0aYXLdEgF8srzigd36rWfdBrkq8COH7nKS unY1aNyIMUu9FojAq38C8oPnMgnFHI+on3R2t/Sc+oRIUE1HyrwFyUaxRrax4mhFl3CA xNWIKh0d6vZSpr8X+4EnYy3CvR344zGofSwHiVulfpomyGA22+AG1m++Nd6XZcxT+mAK gB2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.185.195 with SMTP id fe3mr5823164igc.25.1351170674728; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.26.7 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:11:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: BIND - slaving the root zone and signature expired From: Damien Fleuriot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk1RaLfcP/3+LmG48TpXdWmbgs/WVdkquCakvFSXtwLT3rkjzXIjKlG3xSfXcrRBO3gA7kA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:11:17 -0000 Hello list, Anyone else experienced this problem today ? We slave the root zone and have received "signature expired" errors. We slave the root zone like so: zone "." { type slave; file "/etc/namedb/slave/root.slave"; masters { 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. }; notify no; }; zone "arpa" { type slave; file "/etc/namedb/slave/arpa.slave"; masters { 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. }; notify no; }; And got the following errors: ==== messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: starting BIND 9.6.-ESV-R7 -t /var/named -u bind messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: built with '--prefix=/usr' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--enable-threads' '--enable-getifaddrs' '--disable-linux-caps' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--without-idn' '--without-libxml2' messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: ---------------------------------------------------- messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: BIND 9 is maintained by Internet Systems Consortium, messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: Inc. (ISC), a non-profit 501(c)(3) public-benefit messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: corporation. Support and training for BIND 9 are messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: available at https://www.isc.org/support messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: ---------------------------------------------------- messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: command channel listening on ::1#953 messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: /etc/namedb/slave/root.slave:10: signature has expired messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: /etc/namedb/slave/arpa.slave:10: signature has expired messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: running messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: zone ./IN: expired messages.2:Oct 25 08:25:46 pf1 named[23251]: zone arpa/IN: expired messages.2:Oct 25 08:27:16 pf1 named[23251]: transfer of 'arpa/IN' from 192.5.5.241#53: failed while receiving responses: connection reset messages.2:Oct 25 08:27:17 pf1 named[23251]: transfer of './IN' from 192.5.5.241#53: failed while receiving responses: connection reset messages.2:Oct 25 08:28:47 pf1 named[23251]: transfer of './IN' from 192.5.5.241#53: failed while receiving responses: connection reset messages.2:Oct 25 08:28:47 pf1 named[23251]: transfer of 'arpa/IN' from 192.5.5.241#53: failed while receiving responses: connection reset messages.2:Oct 25 08:30:37 pf1 named[23251]: transfer of 'arpa/IN' from 192.5.5.241#53: failed while receiving responses: connection reset messages.2:Oct 25 08:30:42 pf1 named[23251]: transfer of './IN' from 192.5.5.241#53: failed while receiving responses: connection reset messages.2:Oct 25 08:32:47 pf1 named[23251]: stopping command channel on 127.0.0.1#953 messages.2:Oct 25 08:32:47 pf1 named[23251]: stopping command channel on ::1#953 messages.2:Oct 25 08:32:47 pf1 named[23251]: exiting ==== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 14:19:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B002848 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01138FC17 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9PEJ0Q0048246; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:19:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9PEJ0mw048243; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:19:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:18:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server In-Reply-To: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:19:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:19:12 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Olivier Nicole wrote: > The network card on my HP 4300 is definitely dead. All I am left with > is a... parallel port! Just for clarity, is that the good kind of HP 4300, a laser printer, or the other kind, a multifunction inkjet? > But the printer is still working fine, printing fast and in good > quality. > > I don't want to invest in a new network card though, while I have a > bunchg of old systems lying around. > > Solutions are: > > 1) I set-up a small FreeBSD box, with printer spooler, and all my > quota stuff; > > 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet > port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on > the original print server. > > Any cue for the option 2? Without a way to reprogram the firmware in the printer, you'll have to use a server on a computer. lpd(8) works, but your later post says you want to use port 9100. It should be possible to use something like nc(1) to receive raw data on port 9100 and just dump it to the parallel port. There will be little or no error handling. Finding an EIO JetDirect would be better, if it is the right kind of printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 14:34:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E09E11 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B818FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 16so1337812wgi.31 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:34:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=S49OaoqyaVok0bkdP3OBzBu+KOg0VSkhoLmmXw5DOe8=; b=gSxKktwhVyC0ciL2SJL4kds64yiwBfHql0JK+Fdl8sxUfuVRA7/qwV+bqubIlny1dc bxQVK/HpEmPbMuHK6kMi4kaMCLzW3dqM/7+2ZpGfibC6g1bUr6GJcn57F+pvWdu/BiQJ LXveDyLu5knC27ieReNJ0iMU5DLJTU2A7WstNDyrgLqBvTNxVj5OpB6cqkzSRD9qT2Kf i/Zf7Mcy/hPlfxGm0JLKopo/3X+HaEizq5+caXAgnZlfg56HVM9tHnX/6Ec6lwGEs8Ni ADd4u98xoKhSBanplHuSNuwkxTcbCPbYw5BHYO3AwXoT1BpZB2SgHT8u3TNnIFcU08kf 57GA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.226.135 with SMTP id b7mr12175934weq.48.1351175642119; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.58.1 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:34:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14980AB869AD6B47A8803DB297CD2192222C10CD@MERCURY.universe.galaxy.lcl> References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <14980AB869AD6B47A8803DB297CD2192222C10CD@MERCURY.universe.galaxy.lcl> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:34:02 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5MreheVGh2zhbtivCmQ8X3rVvAw Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server From: Olivier Nicole To: Graeme Dargie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:34:03 -0000 Hi Graeme, > You might be able to dig up a network to parallel port jet direct box > fairly cheap from a well known auction site. Yes, but shipment to Thailand is like 4 times the price of the card :( Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 14:40:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F93214 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839398FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hr7so1405753wib.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:40:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tM+tqbEn+5ADRfRXAPpbTg7lf8QtMUvWBI/BRjPsR4U=; b=adhaKO3aLLDZANh5uJjfZjV7x2HH1wQEGp+p157ql0TVu/qhbGYFqrMhQQuUVsYc9O kPPv3QZfRZIdeomx0c16sOE1uRUKOCBPecPONgoX5jd+U4KB9v1864DFm2K3SMy/yrcN CabwKCnX1WobIcB0ay78jsuv4ZDuruXCD+lx8aGGsGMRWX/gLnVQjWrcX2sX9G6SaWI8 dNGzz90FcAO7tZ/jyrSD3kRxzOKOEVokg7OLDDRq+aAigRggGc5jTO2CTxV1a9xySF5v EdHw/+AA9jE9FeNuxvVZl1z9dMiziMh01WyxDEEhOUzQW0dVN6YwqRvNDlkUWq4CySIP qv2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.226.135 with SMTP id b7mr12186629weq.48.1351176010013; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.58.1 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:40:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:40:09 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: btWsCl-2iL-jfdas35naIvuQNKU Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server From: Olivier Nicole To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:40:17 -0000 HI Warren >> The network card on my HP 4300 is definitely dead. All I am left with >> is a... parallel port! > > > Just for clarity, is that the good kind of HP 4300, a laser printer, or the > other kind, a multifunction inkjet? That's a good old fashioned HP LaserJet 4300 dt(n) (it has lost the n with the network ability). >> But the printer is still working fine, printing fast and in good >> quality. >> >> I don't want to invest in a new network card though, while I have a >> bunchg of old systems lying around. >> >> Solutions are: >> >> 1) I set-up a small FreeBSD box, with printer spooler, and all my >> quota stuff; >> >> 2) I find a solution to bridge the parallel port and the ethernet >> port. This is more exciting and I keep the quota and spooling on >> the original print server. >> >> Any cue for the option 2? > > > Without a way to reprogram the firmware in the printer, you'll have to use a > server on a computer. lpd(8) works, but your later post says you want to > use port 9100. It should be possible to use something like nc(1) to receive > raw data on port 9100 and just dump it to the parallel port. There will be > little or no error handling. Thanks, that is what I am looking for. Best regards, Olivier > Finding an EIO JetDirect would be better, if it is the right kind of > printer. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 16:33:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277273ED for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A0F8FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9PGXPmI050948; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:33:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9PGXPGs050945; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:33:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:33:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: BIND - slaving the root zone and signature expired In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:33:27 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Anyone else experienced this problem today ? > > We slave the root zone and have received "signature expired" errors. Found this: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2011-March/007116.html which leads to this: http://in-addr-transition.icann.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 16:34:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74C4A8 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lsantagostini@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422148FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so2159391lag.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=s1w9o6769+0T8hov3+xMt9Ny+GTzk6oZDm+1NNVqMGk=; b=hzCgT+qG1lvOxEvSWG1OTPsCa0QMT2JhRmwGVPphKNYb1qPVaLfv9GzmhUtk+3Mxwo Q5GttBwI1vhp8vsVJ4HRXdpe9EmrP4IVFaXY1JBJDczM7w6qBue4dwHTkU00oVsWc1/T yPUUGuS9chBCGDArO82Pt5PPHyg/dlMYtTCVxuRbFzg7bPK0Fsw3JajJ5hojYyrlCihw SHFhU5EeLXO03RKbHQmLbqe7cp9ZgeKxT36J5TFScDeBfjeQyEfPnjPErkgsfj1URoOA 3+7IauxdKkKuFCoqDb/flP4zq25aYrvwPBXxx70t9ePofOsnxMy88zeUg2UiyLUvVwSc wrJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.49.201 with SMTP id w9mr7863375lbn.100.1351182893958; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.231 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:34:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:34:53 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Question about EMC CX4-120 From: Leonardo Santagostini To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:34:55 -0000 Hello everybody After googling a lot i couldnt find any resource that tell me if it could be able to recognize luns provided by the cx4-120 on freebsd 9.0. Could someone give a clue at least? Thanks in advance, Regards Saludos.- Leonardo Santagostini From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 16:55:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372CD81A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1488FC08 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so1911064iag.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=7i7OPRlAwo4PPVG/eBZh2hS8T3q8i/iTeF1TBc0SOMA=; b=GEPQGg7SMPR6xmJ78FZMGSyHEhXp66kiGH9Ceu0Z5nhjBALdE+IT4cm2k/NCNgYgEk Xg2biVdCa5j+04Me00sNuZWgGMTZft74uRZqIB2Ykpn3gHOsROsK6Uul+Gufq+EghowB afwTB4igg5/m692HWbN8YRzexpFK89DeelVStdNbSovG0yum/bf81UUiuLCsQgM2EZcs 25t+Kp0AizwqZukP7ZV80mXQlvxFF1LW5gq98T2BzKrFcfxIPRpH9EbjdAa/dRLPOtbY YL/Frp9GxYQ1FJ/IySljkS/60RoNRZ/i5RaL/G6dfpAI4XwVxTd85F5uDLi2OWoB4lA/ zh1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.193.170 with SMTP id hp10mr6700074igc.63.1351184140809; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.26.7 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:55:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BIND - slaving the root zone and signature expired From: Damien Fleuriot To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlSKxNGc7F8dyk1CWZhY5Iq0k5DZtH5dZfEJcWfqPVuCq7/hgg0up5f8nZYUMRI3CzoJzDL Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:55:48 -0000 On 25 October 2012 18:33, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> Anyone else experienced this problem today ? >> >> We slave the root zone and have received "signature expired" errors. > > > Found this: > > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2011-March/007116.html > > which leads to this: > > http://in-addr-transition.icann.org/ Hi Warren and thanks for your reply, I've dug around some more and identified the problem we've been having. Apparently, from a given netblock, we can't AXFR the "." and "arpa" zones anymore with F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. We can from some other boxes. I suspect we might have been firewalled or something, although we don't query them very often , but that's beyond the point. I've now transitioned all our PF boxes to slave from "xfr.lax.dns.icann.org" and "xfr.cjr.dns.icann.org" as per the documentation found in /etc/namedb/named.conf What bothers me is that the commented lines from named.conf say to use the ICANN XFR servers, while the actual commented configuration uses F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET See below a freshly SVNup'd copy on 10.0: % svn info named.conf Path: named.conf Name: named.conf Working Copy Root Path: /data/freebsd/src/head URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/etc/namedb/named.conf Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f Revision: 242082 Node Kind: file Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: uqs Last Changed Rev: 229783 Last Changed Date: 2012-01-07 16:10:32 +0000 (Sat, 07 Jan 2012) Text Last Updated: 2012-09-01 11:43:31 +0000 (Sat, 01 Sep 2012) Checksum: 598add209c192aac1dc4d973ce31922dff8b93c9 I SVNup'd it just today, and yet: === As documented at http://dns.icann.org/services/axfr/ these zones: "." (the root), ARPA, IN-ADDR.ARPA, IP6.ARPA, and ROOT-SERVERS.NET are available for AXFR from these servers on IPv4 and IPv6: xfr.lax.dns.icann.org, xfr.cjr.dns.icann.org */ /* zone "." { type slave; file "/etc/namedb/slave/root.slave"; masters { 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. }; notify no; }; === I'm going to file a PR with a small diff to use the ICANN's XFR servers instead of F. Thanks for your feedback regardless :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 17:23:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F3A160 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D688FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so1939222iag.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=XZs1qoTHM4SyPbUEgTee8AIvDLcEs+72nZWyUcTbl8I=; b=Z04/zJOHlO5Rkf2cpxrhA72j5qtpMky6p5ASc0IKItsdJxwrrnvaAIb2CkHiw+DW5C JIr/wDJ+nC6/r624QLwL2qMiYreg1yc9WVLNOVUkQo2obc1tqWMS3ncPiN6lAy10H7Ip kpws+b4XB4y6vNXD/c3RHkkmts4PV737J9T5ArwqSvM3CVFhsjbIJJCL5Yx5fAQzWD6b T7AanqeI732H+D8Fuyj3acB35fOVP2jy59mBRFUausL82fTiSPT7ObmJmWGp6QdNsKIJ lhbE2OGBUL1TuVLCsoc0S2zKkIblf65Y91mpM41Wc0vy/+67E0YpP/tJWNk8pyWhEa3G HjVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.190.137 with SMTP id gq9mr6880884igc.27.1351185797132; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.26.7 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:23:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BIND - slaving the root zone and signature expired From: Damien Fleuriot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmSMavKZT2qlQxF22bvDl1oYZjvL+hUtuF42M//bOxQ1a3NmFwfeAlbj6T2ECIJRjAgzefl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:23:18 -0000 On 25 October 2012 18:55, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 25 October 2012 18:33, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >>> Anyone else experienced this problem today ? >>> >>> We slave the root zone and have received "signature expired" errors. >> >> >> Found this: >> >> https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2011-March/007116.html >> >> which leads to this: >> >> http://in-addr-transition.icann.org/ > > > > Hi Warren and thanks for your reply, > > > I've dug around some more and identified the problem we've been having. > > > > Apparently, from a given netblock, we can't AXFR the "." and "arpa" > zones anymore with F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > We can from some other boxes. > I suspect we might have been firewalled or something, although we > don't query them very often , but that's beyond the point. > > > I've now transitioned all our PF boxes to slave from > "xfr.lax.dns.icann.org" and "xfr.cjr.dns.icann.org" as per the > documentation found in /etc/namedb/named.conf > > What bothers me is that the commented lines from named.conf say to use > the ICANN XFR servers, while the actual commented configuration uses > F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET > > > > > See below a freshly SVNup'd copy on 10.0: > > % svn info named.conf > Path: named.conf > Name: named.conf > Working Copy Root Path: /data/freebsd/src/head > URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/etc/namedb/named.conf > Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base > Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f > Revision: 242082 > Node Kind: file > Schedule: normal > Last Changed Author: uqs > Last Changed Rev: 229783 > Last Changed Date: 2012-01-07 16:10:32 +0000 (Sat, 07 Jan 2012) > Text Last Updated: 2012-09-01 11:43:31 +0000 (Sat, 01 Sep 2012) > Checksum: 598add209c192aac1dc4d973ce31922dff8b93c9 > > > I SVNup'd it just today, and yet: > > === > As documented at http://dns.icann.org/services/axfr/ these zones: > "." (the root), ARPA, IN-ADDR.ARPA, IP6.ARPA, and ROOT-SERVERS.NET > are available for AXFR from these servers on IPv4 and IPv6: > xfr.lax.dns.icann.org, xfr.cjr.dns.icann.org > */ > /* > zone "." { > type slave; > file "/etc/namedb/slave/root.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; > }; > === > > > > > I'm going to file a PR with a small diff to use the ICANN's XFR > servers instead of F. > > > > Thanks for your feedback regardless :) If anyone cares to take it, filed as conf/173077 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 19:19:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F8E14 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashkan82r@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FC88FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so3567561iea.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+bm+y+9wJCD63zX772xoH49UGlZlohAF8skkHhqluLE=; b=WRR9lLK2O/xWBvzKlGaD9brC3f5QqZdDYd+c0SmP7Fy3/nPTxaVH/l8lhAvSzknJcY xFQgOWCrFRBtDb2dVI01QmCp3PF/cFFhlhC8fCwV4k5vac/2cre4qf3tBwzXD2KjsdSl hnjnLrgzOMd8czL7abpU8VztyGDdtTPtIj+zuvM0gC/N+igBgosEFnmlewxzrbygmcwi 7heyptqSCdYvGOyHjLx9cBKq79tUxzOyBSpOwoIZ73/9kyIjwOByo8SzRmekfzKLIiCR thOGABWYlOT/1j8K/agHPjgoaCSYtKW8rvFVoQlNpML+BPhAHK61bTX/VUNVVT33GrtL 4UQQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.140.97 with SMTP id rf1mr5521641igb.70.1351192765802; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.106.161 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:49:25 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: Full system update. From: Ashkan Rahmani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:19:27 -0000 Hi, How I can update system completely some thing like apt-get dist-upgrade in Debian? --- Best Regards, Ashkan R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 19:45:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283A0648 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EE08FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9PJj5Dx064480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:45:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q9PJj5Dx064480 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q9PJj5Dx064480; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <508996BB.2050306@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:44:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Full system update. References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig131F62B859AADE35CE0EF7E5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:45:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig131F62B859AADE35CE0EF7E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/10/2012 20:19, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > How I can update system completely some thing like apt-get dist-upgrade= in > Debian? You can't. With FreeBSD it's always a two step thing, because it has the distinction between the base system and ported software. You probably want freebsd-update(8) for updating the base system, as that's downloading pre-compiled updates, similar (in a very loose way) to apt-get. The man page will answer most, if not all, or your questions. There are other ways: see the Handbook for details, but these all involve compiling the OS from source. Not a bad or particularly difficult thing, but time-consuming. For updating the ports: there's the well established method, which is to update the ports tree using portsnap(8) and then rebuild any out of date ports: use portmaster(8) for that. (There are other alternatives to both those programs, but I reckon those are the best to get started with.= ) Then there is pkgng. This is a binary package manager -- pretty much the most apt-get like thing in FreeBSD at the moment. However pkgng is brand new, currently the focus of much active development and still considered pretty experimental. pkgng itself works pretty well (even if I say so myself) but what is lacking at the moment is the package building infrastructure to provide it with a comprehensive standard repository of all the software available from ports for all supported architectures and OS versions. If you're running one of the 9.x releases on AMD64 or i386 and pkgbeta happens to contain exactly the package set you want, then you're in luck. If not, then you're back to compiling all the ports yourself and setting up your own repo. Last, and really not recommended at all, you could use the existing pkg_tools binary packages. This, however, is a trap for the newbies and leads to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Especially if you try and mix stuff you compiled yourself and the pre-compiled packages. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Finally, I was able to run this using linux-sun-jdk. Still, I'd like to get some insight on this, out of curiosity, if not anything else. Is there some feature which is not supported with the native JDK? bye & Thanks av. 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[204.116.254.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h16sm2154725ani.0.2012.10.25.15.36.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5089BEDD.9000007@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:36:13 -0500 From: Joseph a Nagy Jr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121022 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED]Re: Graphiz broke because of swig References: <507ADC4B.3080907@gmail.com> <507AF237.3060401@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <507AF237.3060401@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9787D0152832229D2F6B4E46" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:36:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9787D0152832229D2F6B4E46 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000207000802090109030004" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000207000802090109030004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/14/12 12:11, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/10/2012 16:37, Joseph a Nagy Jr wrote: >> I was installing my system earlier (dual-boot Ubuntu 12.04LTS/FreeBSD >> 9.0; Ubuntu was already present) and while installing subversion, one = of >> the many co-dependencies of the many programs that were being installe= d >> was graphviz. Apparently I selected some support options relating to >> swig that broke the compile of graphiz (and therefore everything else)= =2E >> Is there a way to remedy this? I'd rather not reinstall the entire >> system. Thanks. >=20 > # cd /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz > # make config >=20 > Adjust the swig related options, then reinstall graphviz using whatever= > your favourite ports management tools are. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 Thank you for your help (: --=20 Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f1sm12360840wiy.2.2012.10.25.16.35.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:35:10 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based, standalone, print server Message-ID: <20121026003510.1a1f138b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <201210250920.q9P9KZIJ023501@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:35:16 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:35 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > The network card on my HP 4300 is definitely dead. I don't want to > invest in a new network card though, while I have a bunchg of old > systems lying around. Have you considered the cost of powering an additional computer? If you plan on leaving it on most of the day, it's likely to be more expensive than replacing the network card. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 00:17:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5242FFC3 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashkan82r@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141F48FC16 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so2311755iag.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:17:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gKoSsb00w7AgqZtW+b6504sAoa61chch4SnoY1kDjZU=; b=Fe6hPi8cawBsS4oHjE9TYGOgg7+j7r78d8+A2BbyN41d2iWnPlFWehZL5vyOlA9u8L KmauBaIpOeGhzBkKX+UBlel/Vxf8frkuDc96xtjpHfDdr/G48zkMThcjLN+SorUES0dP gqjeu4YLD5MwuXkuvBQgYze9pl0Qicp1PaNmZI0PoW6m4mlgGKNwIkZqJfvdXC46+gH7 OUOT9FID4AtXk8ehJ2K+gG+mhpJlqUaN3IuNoC3I4j45wcFORpY2xmezfZq4cSgXWg4x uEnuKwiY0spfOgTX3fZIwGH0QmR2ZMK7n5xrmfb11uZL+F6Hjlk0H+b9nfoXt5TwkBXl lo3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.140.97 with SMTP id rf1mr342774igb.70.1351210650639; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.106.161 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.106.161 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:47:29 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: rc.conf and loader.conf From: Ashkan Rahmani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:17:31 -0000 hi, what is the best order of items in rc.conf and loader.conf? actually items order is important? Best regards, Ashkan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 00:39:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C754E8E for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA59C8FC0A for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa05.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9Q0dbGj017109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.101] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:35:13 -0500 Subject: Re: rc.conf and loader.conf MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:35:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: Ashkan Rahmani X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-25_05:2012-10-25,2012-10-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:39:41 -0000 On Oct 25, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > hi, > what is the best order of items in rc.conf and loader.conf? > actually items order is important? >=20 order does not matter (unless you have duplicates -- in which case later as= signments override previous ones). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 01:30:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205D7BEF for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCA58FC16 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9Q1Tqk8031581; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:29:53 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:29:51 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ashkan Rahmani Subject: Re: rc.conf and loader.conf Message-ID: <20121026082951.6e7ea740@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:30:03 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:47:29 +0330 Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > hi, > what is the best order of items in rc.conf and loader.conf? > actually items order is important? > as you know already, the order does not matter at all. But there some modules which cannot coexist. I prefer to build a custom kernel over loading modules. Of course, as this does not always lead to a perfect solution, I still have some kernel modules which are loaded at boot time or even after the system is up and running via a script I start manually. With other words, FreeBSD gives you all the freedom you need to get the best solution for your needs. Erich > Best regards, > Ashkan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 01:41:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B82ADE1; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360C68FC0A; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id v11so3245688vbm.13 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:41:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wQTuEOoFjiIc0kTsyHjwdm+KwJlWzxcJaZcrp0lO0hE=; b=rXTynHRW6v6anhTXfD+0Ihia1eMB4FZrKQxnsiVZwXznp9dUTJYkSVQMpuBzfXhmrj sjM4ABLeNwmkvpppI+5i8RKlru70vXWLJRf2RtoCXg93PSTWUGQzZhAmQxCOJWzFUcTO tkZqeCZFA7pRMXsah/2QFfdIm+M/r5/PX++9bRTLMCgtyWk3dsEheQ5CV3PhkXMzEcK9 kmrVk+V6ESpa56nUeT1bekvNNmmScw1oSZEOkfDzT4cJuWjt7eIuqaHfD7UmKLnXCu/5 JIyOoHRB2IcNps6oGOmlWoAiXqQg1VKiN/xIK1b0wvQ1oYqcg/ydJZil2aMa5OFa5Um/ 7OuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.154.6 with SMTP id m6mr34675226vcw.51.1351215698188; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.186.197 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:41:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <508996BB.2050306@FreeBSD.org> References: <508996BB.2050306@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:41:38 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Full system update. From: Alexandr Alexeev To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:41:39 -0000 The closest equivalent of `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` in FreeBSD is `pkg_upgrade -a`. This tool is a part of bsdadminscripts package. If you also wanted to upgrade a kernel, look at freebsd-update. But don't forget that in FreeBSD all is not so simple like in Debian. You have to monitor /usr/ports/UPDATING file and release notes for the new branches of FreeBSD. "Last, and really not recommended at all, you could use the existing pkg_tools binary packages. This, however, is a trap for the newbies and leads to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Especially if you try and mix stuff you compiled yourself and the pre-compiled packages." I've been successfully using binary packages (pkg_add -r ...) and ports in the same time for ~3 years. I don't wail and my teeth are OK. What am I doing wrong? On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/10/2012 20:19, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: >> How I can update system completely some thing like apt-get dist-upgrade in >> Debian? > > You can't. With FreeBSD it's always a two step thing, because it has > the distinction between the base system and ported software. > > You probably want freebsd-update(8) for updating the base system, as > that's downloading pre-compiled updates, similar (in a very loose way) > to apt-get. The man page will answer most, if not all, or your > questions. There are other ways: see the Handbook for details, but > these all involve compiling the OS from source. Not a bad or > particularly difficult thing, but time-consuming. > > For updating the ports: there's the well established method, which is to > update the ports tree using portsnap(8) and then rebuild any out of date > ports: use portmaster(8) for that. (There are other alternatives to > both those programs, but I reckon those are the best to get started with.) > > Then there is pkgng. This is a binary package manager -- pretty much > the most apt-get like thing in FreeBSD at the moment. However pkgng is > brand new, currently the focus of much active development and still > considered pretty experimental. pkgng itself works pretty well (even if > I say so myself) but what is lacking at the moment is the package > building infrastructure to provide it with a comprehensive standard > repository of all the software available from ports for all supported > architectures and OS versions. If you're running one of the 9.x > releases on AMD64 or i386 and pkgbeta happens to contain exactly the > package set you want, then you're in luck. If not, then you're back to > compiling all the ports yourself and setting up your own repo. > > Last, and really not recommended at all, you could use the existing > pkg_tools binary packages. This, however, is a trap for the newbies and > leads to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Especially if you try and > mix stuff you compiled yourself and the pre-compiled packages. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > -- Best regards, Alex Alexeev http://twitter.com/afiskon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 05:37:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51978603 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06FA8FC14 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9Q5b9eO018721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:37:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9Q5b9Nr018718; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:37:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:37:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Ashkan Rahmani Subject: Re: rc.conf and loader.conf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-450629592-1351229829=:26470" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:37:15 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-450629592-1351229829=:26470 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:47+0330, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > hi, > what is the best order of items in rc.conf and loader.conf? > actually items order is important? Order is not important, as explained by someone else on the list. However, I like to keep the lines in the /etc/rc.conf file in the same order as they appear in the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file, and place local stuff (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d) in alphabetical order at the bottom of the file. 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There are a few K52J variations - the K52JC has the 310M In the xorg.conf you posted the link to - you have two parts titled - Section "Device" - one has card0 nvidia the other has card1 intel. You also have two sections for Screen and two for Monitor. In the ServerLayout you have Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" My guess is that the cpu has a built-in gpu. The asus details list four corei5 options - intel says 3 of them include HD graphics see last table here - http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/corei5/sb/CS-032331.htm?wapkw=corei5+540m Just wondering if the two gpu's might be creating a conflict. >> I would try removing the screen 1 line from serverlayout as well as >> the matching screen and monitor 1 details as well as the intel >> graphics device section - disconnecting a second monitor if it is >> connected. >> >> Change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" and try that. >> > xorg.conf which generated by xorg -configure detect vga vendor name > as intel corporation, and set driver vesa. when i change driver to > any thing else i got no devices detected error. please attention i > have label on laptop body says vga is nvidia geforce 310m cuda 1gb, > and another label with nvidia optimus. Have you tried running nvidia-xconfig? x11/nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings? x11/nvidia-settings > i have an option in bios "boot vga controller selection for" which > have 2 options windows 7/vista and reserved. Try changing to reserved. You may also want to try removing the nvidia sections from xorg.conf and see if you can get the intel gpu to work. Also when you reply, use reply to all so that a copy also goes to the list. It can increase your chance of someone helping. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 08:57:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38939A63 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AF08FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808093D558; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:57:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9Q8vgAu001903; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:57:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:57:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Trond =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Endrest=F8l?= Subject: Re: rc.conf and loader.conf Message-Id: <20121026105742.c84d7de9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ashkan Rahmani X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:57:50 -0000 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:37:09 +0200 (CEST), Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: > However, I like to keep the lines in the /etc/rc.conf file in the same=20 > order as they appear in the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file, and place=20 > local stuff (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d) in alphabetical order at the=20 > bottom of the file. Slight deviation: I tend to group settings according to their functionality (network, server stuff, console settings etc.), and also have local additions at the end of the file. However, FreeBSD also supports rc.conf.local to keep them. The rc.conf file can be seen as a shell script, containing variable assignments. It is that simple. It implies that you can arrange everything (with newlines, comments, in groups, as you wish) as long as it is valid shell syntax. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 11:35:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FC13FF for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.sarker@switch2link.com) Received: from mailsub2.hostvue.com (mailsub2.hostvue.com [195.26.90.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448DF8FC12 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from host81-148-58-12.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.148.58.12] helo=Switch2link1) by mailsub2.hostvue.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRhYq-0005jr-Hk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:54:44 +0100 From: "Md Samadul Sarker" To: Subject: FreeBSD help require for DellpowerEdge R620 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000901cdb368$4c3f25f0$e4bd71d0$@switch2link.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2zZ9Pb3yYP+GlpRRqAPpsNc4qqWA== Content-Language: en-gb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:35:28 -0000 Hi, I have got DELL PowerEdge R620 which raid controller is H710. Can anyone help me that is there any chance to install FreeBSD on this and how? Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Sarker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 11:49:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EEAA93 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2A28FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9QBmtMI003780; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:48:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:48:55 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Md Samadul Sarker" Subject: Re: FreeBSD help require for DellpowerEdge R620 Message-ID: <20121026184855.0edab352@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <000901cdb368$4c3f25f0$e4bd71d0$@switch2link.com> References: <000901cdb368$4c3f25f0$e4bd71d0$@switch2link.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:49:00 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:54:39 +0100 "Md Samadul Sarker" wrote: > I have got DELL PowerEdge R620 which raid controller is H710. Can > anyone help me that is there any chance to install FreeBSD on this > and how? Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. > just check this and you should be able to get some FreeBSD running. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 11:56:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863D5BF9 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DAF8FC14 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id b5so2099766lbd.13 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:56:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=94VIgBc6AfijBVp1IPkAxd3DvHrD6e9tl/LYek9olII=; b=R5A/HEyxuH6MZ63NnAqBYrZG9wtYqk2c7kFp7HlsTzLu6dLupcrLpLqFEB78Yz0RZB bmklFUZ3GCXj/b9G5149oJ7SNJqpHHICNZ+ANKD1oqX+tsVg6pQ+b/X9raz0MtgQ2NrZ wmSujZ8AAbtV9/qI84RIOGgVSBeMWkYXzwkafpgBX0KNJWVhxVWFMp+fgezAb9UF6ZlW CfOzsZwPRuD7g+bp+7ybFSOtNRmp1wjwwvhk6SWLWvHZgysjrTbkvud6LSNk7jOn8n0O AP4Yr6fx675gG9pq/nGlmdVsGDWeewwiUzOyF5snYBanv3j2UeFIRGSfRxq1MuEyd4Cf u8tA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.110.74 with SMTP id hy10mr20523111lab.54.1351252609475; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.4.97 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:56:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000901cdb368$4c3f25f0$e4bd71d0$@switch2link.com> References: <000901cdb368$4c3f25f0$e4bd71d0$@switch2link.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:56:49 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: budqt3UTs3J3eIJkbPyu_Hpw7TM Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD help require for DellpowerEdge R620 From: Rick Miller To: Md Samadul Sarker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:56:51 -0000 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Md Samadul Sarker wrote: > > I have got DELL PowerEdge R620 which raid controller is H710. Can anyone > help me that is there any chance to install FreeBSD on this and how? Any > suggestions will be highly appreciated. I have a couple blog posts related to running FreeBSD on the R620. You may want to read through them. http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/05/22/freebsd-on-dell-poweredge-12g-servers/ http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/06/30/freebsd-dell-12g-x520-da2-10g-nic/ As far as I am aware, the mfi driver needed to support the H710 RAID controller is only in stable/8 and stable/9 right now. I believe it should be in 9.1-RELEASE, but I could be wrong. If/when 8.4-RELEASE is dropped, it should be in there too. -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 12:11:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B49A32C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237D28FC16 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9QCBAYb008543; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:11:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:11:09 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Rick Miller Subject: Re: FreeBSD help require for DellpowerEdge R620 Message-ID: <20121026191109.03daa1ec@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <000901cdb368$4c3f25f0$e4bd71d0$@switch2link.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Md Samadul Sarker , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:11:14 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:56:49 -0400 Rick Miller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Md Samadul Sarker > wrote: > > > > I have got DELL PowerEdge R620 which raid controller is H710. Can > > anyone help me that is there any chance to install FreeBSD on this > > and how? Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. > > I have a couple blog posts related to running FreeBSD on the R620. > You may want to read through them. > > http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/05/22/freebsd-on-dell-poweredge-12g-servers/ > http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/06/30/freebsd-dell-12g-x520-da2-10g-nic/ > > As far as I am aware, the mfi driver needed to support the H710 RAID > controller is only in stable/8 and stable/9 right now. I believe it > should be in 9.1-RELEASE, but I could be wrong. If/when 8.4-RELEASE > is dropped, it should be in there too. > oh, I just saw that I have forgotten the links in my former e-mail. As they would have been the same, I do not have to repeat them here. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 12:28:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C7B7F0 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (inga.augusta.de [77.90.142.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0A08FC16 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inga.augusta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9QCJrbX018028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:19:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with UUCP id q9QCJpwA018027 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:19:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from wanderer.starbox.augusta.de (wanderer.starbox.augusta.de [192.168.71.2]) by gatekeeper.starbox.augusta.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9QCIYYw098929 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:18:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Message-ID: <508A7F88.8050309@ze.tum.de> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:18:16 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121022 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ata controller problem X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 OpenPGP: id=4000A915 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000308030002080905050302" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (inga.augusta.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:19:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:28:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000308030002080905050302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, i have a very strange Problem with my new Workstation. The Problem is the order of the sata controllers. The Mainboard has 6 sata Ports and i have a PCI-Express Card with 4 more sata Channels. I boot from a SSD connected to port 0 in the Mainboard. Channels 1-3 are additional Harddisks and 5 is a optical drive. I've a Hotswap-Bay for 3 SATA Drives the bay is connected to the PCI-Express Card SATA Channel. The Problem is that, if there is a Drive in one of the HotSwap Bays the PCI-Express controller is detected as ahci0 and the onboard is detected as ahci1. Therefore any drives in the HotSwap Bays become ada0-3 and the drives on the mainboard controller are the upper numbers which causes the boot to fail as the Root Partition isn't there where it's expected. The BIOS has the PCI-Express Card as second Card only so the Kernel is Booted but the RootFS is not Found. So Far i could have set some devices.hints entries to sort the scsi busses. But the problem is that if there are no drives in the Bays the PCI-Expresscard is detected as ahci1 Is there a way to ensure that the onboard SATA Controller is always probed first. Regards Gerhard -- ------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | E-Mail und JabberID: TU-München | schmidt@ze.tum.de WWW & Online Services | --------------000308030002080905050302-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 14:33:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6281B5 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546248FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP362 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:33:34 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [14.99.86.238] X-EIP: [Tjug4hIrrH77jlM10MiVHPGD9e/hDkD/] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.99.86.238]) by BLU0-SMTP362.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:33:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:03:11 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2012 14:33:33.0549 (UTC) FILETIME=[E067A1D0:01CDB386] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:33:35 -0000 Hi All, I recently purchased a laptop (Intel Pentium dual core) and installed FreeBSD 8.3-i386 on it using the 'All' canned distribution. I then downloaded the latest ports tarball and started building them. Some of the ports required a newer version of the graphics/png port, so I did a deinstall and reinstall in graphics/png. This removed the previous binary libpng.so.6 and placed version libpng15.so.15 in its stead. Things went wrong here - the GNOME desktop started crashing with the panel not working and practically all desktop icons gone. So I guessed that the canned version of GNOME in the installation DVD had a dependency on libpng.so.6. I reinstalled FreeBSD 8.3, and copied /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6 to /usr/lib/libpng.so.6 before building the ports a second time. This time things went a lot more smoothly. GNOME works. But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not have any image on them. While this is not exactly a catastrophe, it is rankling to say the least. Maybe some gentleman has faced this problem and has sorted it out. If anyone can provide a hint on how to fix the problem, I would be grateful indeed. Thank you & Regards, Manish Jain bourne.identity@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 14:43:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36937E5 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2758FC0A for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DA02490F; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9QEhBH5002365; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:43:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:43:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 Message-Id: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:43:20 -0000 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:03:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi All, > > I recently purchased a laptop (Intel Pentium dual core) and installed > FreeBSD 8.3-i386 on it using the 'All' canned distribution. I then > downloaded the latest ports tarball and started building them. This ports snapshot is not "in sync" with the installed world and possibly installed 3rd party programs (ports) anymore. > Some of the ports required a newer version of the graphics/png port, so > I did a deinstall and reinstall in graphics/png. This removed the > previous binary libpng.so.6 and placed version libpng15.so.15 in its > stead. Things went wrong here - the GNOME desktop started crashing with > the panel not working and practically all desktop icons gone. Exactly my experience with some libjpeg update some years ago. :-) The rule usually is: If you update a port others depend on (read: depend on a specific version), you also need to update those ports. Mixing versions doesn't seem to be a good idea. > So I > guessed that the canned version of GNOME in the installation DVD had a > dependency on libpng.so.6. Correct. > I reinstalled FreeBSD 8.3, [...] Why did you reinstall the OS? Things like Gnome or PNG libarary are separated. > [...] and copied /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6 to > /usr/lib/libpng.so.6 before building the ports a second time. You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal with installing and updating of ports. > This time > things went a lot more smoothly. GNOME works. But Mozilla applications > like Firefox and Thunderbird present a peculiar problem - the buttons on > the Tool bar/Menu bar do not have any image on them. It seems that there is some "library collision". If you update things, update _all_ of them, in order to avoid version trouble. The best approach (in your case) would be: Install the OS, do not install anything from ports yet. Get the ports tree. Update it to the recent version. Now start installing stuff, and do it from the _same_ ports tree. Alternative: If you go with the programs installed from the media (e. g. the DVD), use pkg_add to get binary installed applications. In case you insist on compiling, get the ports tree of the _state of your installation_ (i. e. the tarball from the DVD) and use that. Do not update it. In this case, you can easily mix compiling from source and installing via binary packages. This alternative is not suggested now. :-) > While this is not > exactly a catastrophe, it is rankling to say the least. Maybe some > gentleman has faced this problem and has sorted it out. If anyone can > provide a hint on how to fix the problem, I would be grateful indeed. Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 16:00:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B433D96 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0928FC19 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3477D3330E; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:00:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9QG0DLp002819; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:00:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:00:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gerhard Schmidt Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-Id: <20121026180013.45c95ea7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <508A7F88.8050309@ze.tum.de> References: <508A7F88.8050309@ze.tum.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:00:16 -0000 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:18:16 +0200, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > The Problem is that, if there is a Drive in one of the HotSwap Bays the > PCI-Express controller is detected as ahci0 and the onboard is detected > as ahci1. Therefore any drives in the HotSwap Bays become ada0-3 and the > drives on the mainboard controller are the upper numbers which causes > the boot to fail as the Root Partition isn't there where it's expected. > The BIOS has the PCI-Express Card as second Card only so the Kernel is > Booted but the RootFS is not Found. You can use labels (GPT or UFS labels) or UFSIDs to become independent of the actual device name where things are stored on. You could also use this to make disks easier to identify (e. g. "/dev/label/red1root" = the disk with a red "1" on it, carrying the root file system). I suggest those pages for more detailed information: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html Maybe as well (specific and general notes and inspiration): http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=2666 http://www.freebsdonline.com/content/view/731/506/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html I assume that you are using UFS. > Is there a way to ensure that the onboard SATA Controller is always > probed first. I'm not sure if this can be done, but using labels should make the question go away, and the problem causing it. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 16:33:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAE6E95 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.strangled.net) Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE7E8FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FoAs1k0011wfjNsA3sZfZa; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:33:39 +0000 Received: from koitsu.strangled.net ([67.180.84.87]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FsZe1k00C1t3BNj8jsZeia; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:33:39 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4BCCE73A33; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:33:38 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: schmidt@ze.tum.de Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-ID: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:33:40 -0000 Regarding this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-October/245862.html No no NO *NO*! I wish people would stop recommending this utter garbage. There is absolutely no justification behind using the highly convoluted labelling mechanisms at multiple layers within FreeBSD. There are 3 (possibly 4) different "label" mechanisms which do nothing but confuse the user, or cause other oddities/complexities. Good grief, there is so much hard evidence on the mailing lists over the past 5 (maybe even 7?) years talking about the utter mess that is filesystem/device/geom/blahblah labels that to recommend this is borderline insane. The proper way to solve this problem is to user /boot/loader.conf tie-downs to assign each disk to each individual controllers' device number (e.g. ada0 --> scbus0 --> ahcich0, or whatever you want). Please note I said ahcichX, not ahciX. Different things. I have helped others in the past do this; Randy Bush is one such person. Taken directly from my /boot/loader.conf with a single SATA controller, but obviously this can be adjusted to whatever you want. # "Wire down" device names (ada[0-5]) to each individual port # on the SATA/AHCI controller. This ensures that if we reboot # with a disk missing, the device names stay the same, and stay # attached to the same SATA/AHCI controller. # http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-March/011036.html # hint.scbus.0.at="ahcich0" hint.scbus.1.at="ahcich1" hint.scbus.2.at="ahcich2" hint.scbus.3.at="ahcich3" hint.scbus.4.at="ahcich4" hint.scbus.5.at="ahcich5" hint.ada.0.at="scbus0" hint.ada.1.at="scbus1" hint.ada.2.at="scbus2" hint.ada.3.at="scbus3" hint.ada.4.at="scbus4" hint.ada.5.at="scbus5" See CAM(4) man page (read it, don't skim!) for full details. Just please for the love of god do not use labels to solve this. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@koitsu.org | | UNIX Systems Administrator http://jdc.koitsu.org/ | | Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 16:43:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1178981C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948DD8FC16 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E8827624; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:43:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9QGhSOc002989; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:43:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:43:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-Id: <20121026184328.c1e849f2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, schmidt@ze.tum.de X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:43:31 -0000 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:33:38 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Regarding this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-October/245862.html > > No no NO *NO*! No? :-) > I wish people would stop recommending this utter garbage. There is > absolutely no justification behind using the highly convoluted labelling > mechanisms at multiple layers within FreeBSD. There are 3 (possibly 4) > different "label" mechanisms which do nothing but confuse the user, or > cause other oddities/complexities. Good grief, there is so much hard > evidence on the mailing lists over the past 5 (maybe even 7?) years > talking about the utter mess that is filesystem/device/geom/blahblah > labels that to recommend this is borderline insane. Yes, the amount of different, present (in parallel) and differently implemented and accessible labeling mechanisms can be confusing. There is no "the one true way" to do it. Especially when dealing with metadata (e. g. for rare cases of data recovery) it might make things more complicated. I don't agree that labels in general "do nothing but confuse the user" - the same could be said about controllers, devices and how they are partitioned (again, many different ways here). But users usually don't deal with that. Sysadmins do. And they should be able to deal with it, as it's not _that_ complicated (from their educated and experienced point of view, I assume). That's why I would still say labels have their place, especially in settings with many disks (10 and more) where concluding "which disk?" is sometimes required, in terms of disk, not disk _bay_. > The proper way to solve this problem is to user /boot/loader.conf > tie-downs to assign each disk to each individual controllers' device > number (e.g. ada0 --> scbus0 --> ahcich0, or whatever you want). Please > note I said ahcichX, not ahciX. Different things. > > I have helped others in the past do this; Randy Bush is one such person. > > Taken directly from my /boot/loader.conf with a single SATA controller, > but obviously this can be adjusted to whatever you want. > > # "Wire down" device names (ada[0-5]) to each individual port > # on the SATA/AHCI controller. This ensures that if we reboot > # with a disk missing, the device names stay the same, and stay > # attached to the same SATA/AHCI controller. > # http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-March/011036.html > # > hint.scbus.0.at="ahcich0" > hint.scbus.1.at="ahcich1" > hint.scbus.2.at="ahcich2" > hint.scbus.3.at="ahcich3" > hint.scbus.4.at="ahcich4" > hint.scbus.5.at="ahcich5" > hint.ada.0.at="scbus0" > hint.ada.1.at="scbus1" > hint.ada.2.at="scbus2" > hint.ada.3.at="scbus3" > hint.ada.4.at="scbus4" > hint.ada.5.at="scbus5" That's a very nice contribution to the topic - I hadn't thought it was that easy, and it actually solves the "who comes first" kind of problems. > See CAM(4) man page (read it, don't skim!) for full details. Just > please for the love of god do not use labels to solve this. Thanks, this contains inspiration of maybe how to make access to USB devices and memory card readers more efficient (i. e. making sure they are always represented by one and the same device, instead of "the next free one"). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 17:05:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3B25F2 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E2B8FC0C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so3077482iag.13 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:05:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WQVT65KKNVlgt8tjyzbq5Lhkb167HJFPff5z8dRErsc=; b=dzgR2OwLuNxN3CEEndMaaDS7CDRskgqQGTDXjl3iM0JNYVGMlhvkZVwqCcCQFeX/wM p8oPBxE6SvxRsHQJXHhdVSHHg5pJnQj9hqko0DD644S2n3K2dkIEkI+pACFX7WAkIoKA h1A6411ggaGshajn9EFEXlF7zvjWs2iw/M2/liwP6QbgksCzKFrPkHcQuV6Ml4Wv6ZaA 7djjG+K4yWA3T/mMQB73wHe4wH+/2MwMZDIxjfkiLqIrsqqeasm+OKBep3sMAcvp9Nb7 +JwfHuQ0vaP0zYfW/tETlTtbg7aF+xQ0lVw7VdgqPp95Mz7kPGDdnZev0o8xL5RRd25G OYNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.15.194 with SMTP id z2mr2782024igc.30.1351271132561; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.67.111 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:05:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: py-bittornado gone From: Artifex Maximus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:39 -0000 Hello! py-bittornado gone and I accidentally delete with portmanager at upgrade. cfv uses and I use cfv for testing torrent so I need py-bittornado (or py-bittorrent). How can I restore that package? Bye, a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 17:26:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9927974 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43D178FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2012 17:26:50 -0000 Received: from c137085.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [192.168.45.2]) [213.39.137.85] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 26 Oct 2012 19:26:50 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Z1XMJAY1ZGW8FQBUkCA7oU+WiFLGY2nIuhbosfD zsB6fZnl+En6oy Message-ID: <508AC7D8.9050601@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:26:48 +0200 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henti Smith Subject: Re: Strange I/O problem on Freenas 0.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:26:53 -0000 Freenas 0.7.2 is old. Is write cache enable? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html Is ZFS in use? ZFS has a value for tuning. On 22.10.2012 07:34, Henti Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm having a very weird problem with a friends Freenas set-up. I'm > trying to backup his data before migrating to nas4free or just plain > FreeBSD. > > The setup is as follows: > > HP Microserver N36. > 2BG Mem (1713 MB Usable) (no swap) > 4 x 2000GB (ST2000DL003-9VT166 Seagate) drives in a graid5 setup. > > Initially he had no problems with the setup. Samba share was fine and > he populated the raid set with 3TB of data, but somewhere along the > line the disk I/O went VERY slow. > > I initially thought this might be raid related and did some tests but > actually found the problem to be on the discs. > > [root@freenas ~]# diskinfo -c /dev/ad4 > /dev/ad4 > 512 # sectorsize > 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) > 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors > 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 16 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > ad:5YD2VEWQ # Disk ident. > > I/O command overhead: > time to read 10MB block 0.250736 sec = 0.012 msec/sector > time to read 20480 sectors 79.653738 sec = 3.889 msec/sector > calculated command overhead = 3.877 msec/sector > > [root@freenas ~]# diskinfo -t /dev/ad4 > /dev/ad4 > 512 # sectorsize > 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) > 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors > 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 16 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > ad:5YD2VEWQ # Disk ident. > > Seek times: > Full stroke: 250 iter in 124.649884 sec = 498.600 msec > Half stroke: 250 iter in 52.112172 sec = 208.449 msec > Quarter stroke: 500 iter in 167.991252 sec = 335.983 msec > Short forward: 400 iter in 72.027133 sec = 180.068 msec > Short backward: 400 iter in 150.708625 sec = 376.772 msec > Seq outer: 2048 iter in 5.748059 sec = 2.807 msec > Seq inner: 2048 iter in 119.395823 sec = 58.299 msec > Transfer rates: > outside: 102400 kbytes in 39.207296 sec = 2612 kbytes/sec > middle: 102400 kbytes in 113.757181 sec = 900 kbytes/sec > inside: 102400 kbytes in 153.438159 sec = 667 kbytes/sec > > S.M.A.R.T. is not reporting any issues either and the speeds are > similar on all the drives. No errors in /var/log either. > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. > > Regards > Henti > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 17:46:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75F0C6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.strangled.net) Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74648FC0A for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FnqB1k00J0S2fkCA1tmcPL; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:46:36 +0000 Received: from koitsu.strangled.net ([67.180.84.87]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ftmb1k00K1t3BNj8VtmbpS; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:46:36 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F21273A31; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:46:35 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Polytropon Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-ID: <20121026174635.GA33092@icarus.home.lan> References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> <20121026184328.c1e849f2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121026184328.c1e849f2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, schmidt@ze.tum.de X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:46:37 -0000 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 06:43:28PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > I wish people would stop recommending this utter garbage. There is > > absolutely no justification behind using the highly convoluted labelling > > mechanisms at multiple layers within FreeBSD. There are 3 (possibly 4) > > different "label" mechanisms which do nothing but confuse the user, or > > cause other oddities/complexities. Good grief, there is so much hard > > evidence on the mailing lists over the past 5 (maybe even 7?) years > > talking about the utter mess that is filesystem/device/geom/blahblah > > labels that to recommend this is borderline insane. > > Yes, the amount of different, present (in parallel) and > differently implemented and accessible labeling mechanisms > can be confusing. There is no "the one true way" to do it. > Especially when dealing with metadata (e. g. for rare cases > of data recovery) it might make things more complicated. > > I don't agree that labels in general "do nothing but confuse > the user" - the same could be said about controllers, devices > and how they are partitioned (again, many different ways here). > But users usually don't deal with that. Sysadmins do. And they > should be able to deal with it, as it's not _that_ complicated > (from their educated and experienced point of view, I assume). > > That's why I would still say labels have their place, especially > in settings with many disks (10 and more) where concluding > "which disk?" is sometimes required, in terms of disk, not > disk _bay_. Let me make myself extra clear here -- and I won't be replying past this point (privately or publicly): What the OP wanted was to have a static mapping between a physical SATA port (e.g. Card #1 Port #0) and a device name (e.g. ada0) -- one which never changes no matter if there's a disk attached to the port or not. The wire-down method described above does this. Using labels does not. Here's a list of the wonderful fun things labels offer: - You get to remember or write down the label; don't forget it - You get to change /etc/fstab - You get to pray you never have to replace a disk, and if you do, that you remember which labelling method you used, and/or deal with partitioning complexities (see last item) - You get to be subjected to bugs in the GEOM layer or UFS layer when it comes to labels (this has happened!) - If using GPT (the only present way to align a partition properly to a 1MByte boundary -- matters greatly for SSDs due to NAND erase page size!), you're subjected to the problem where GEOM stores its metadata in the last sector, which is also where GPT stores its backup table. This is even documented in the Handbook, which is both good *and* hilarious at the same time And don't forget about the automatic vs. manual GEOM label method (but for this case I'm assuming automatic is used, since that method stores metadata). Every one of these situations has happened to at least one person in the past 5 (7?) years. They CONTINUE to happen. It cannot be denied. We FreeBSD users way too often shove our fingers into our ears and yell "LALALA" when people point out shortcomings. Blind advocacy of any kind of technology these days is something to be wary of. All that said: labels have a very, very specific purpose, backed by a list of many caveats. But "I want to ensure controller port X maps to device X at all times" is not one of those purposes. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@koitsu.org | | UNIX Systems Administrator http://jdc.koitsu.org/ | | Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 17:51:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2562E29B for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED7E8FC14 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 16so2321903wgi.31 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:51:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=qo4+Vzc3RvHGd5oSkiV4B4iZxOXAXbVE2S4/hapFpG0=; b=E8j0BP764HVzLIV9nt/GiSJeeS+oqukkvxbq39KIs2Ic0Ht0wCpQoGwkWMPJkn1evK 7XtMxSCAItpI76PFVMWrCHrydWOKAQu3DJ4yVR5MqGvbcQ0wOZe+0VLGkKZ2+NqazWBv nTG9Y26Cy67WbEShMGRMnmEX+3b6kFaund5xfUVOX7A/AdLA9e2XMo7ciD6YOOHW2+DI xKGmRUBc+fsq2Eh/p8K8fpUu6xJFwZxoezdM0mKr7eHXaIyf7juQKODxcJP5QuGkml0W I9H8OcONx0c3S3NSSWfkWm1RFJCGgLcxVVBai37oC0ZWjgifgcLrPyu7JUVbN29K+FOu BRCQ== Received: by 10.216.227.133 with SMTP id d5mr14479963weq.194.1351273870560; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.99.166.156] ([92.90.16.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm277993wiz.3.2012.10.26.10.51.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:51:09 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <40E09322-0270-46B5-B130-61FB1C611449@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: py-bittornado gone Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:50:49 +0200 To: Artifex Maximus X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmRXRNv46wYZ8ApQ9EDdLhtySOtPLV7tACmCqoNmr7nWSkyO2IBn71kN6LiYNjR/9yGaLxC Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:51:13 -0000 On 26 Oct 2012, at 19:05, Artifex Maximus wrote: > Hello! >=20 > py-bittornado gone and I accidentally delete with portmanager at > upgrade. cfv uses and I use cfv for testing torrent so I need > py-bittornado (or py-bittorrent). How can I restore that package? >=20 > Bye, > a >=20 How about getting the original source and building from there, or a package f= or pkg_add ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 18:37:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A89141D for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4568FC0C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP406 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:37:01 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [14.99.85.80] X-EIP: [tcu+/m9Kjp6+a8BEQbG4IT+qZm/rkLq8] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.99.85.80]) by BLU0-SMTP406.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:37:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 References: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2012 18:37:01.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[E344D8B0:01CDB3A8] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:37:08 -0000 Hello Polytropon, Thanks for replying. > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into the next century. > You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will > crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's > easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal > with installing and updating of ports. For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose of having port management tools. I suspect that there might be folks at Mozilla who might see the light at the end of the tunnel (and the images on their buttons). I'll try roping them in with a separate message. If anything useful comes up, I'll post it to freebsd-questions as a message of possible interest to any other users who might be facing the same problem. Regards, Manish Jain bourne.identity@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 18:41:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BAB591 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D61BF8FC14 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2012 18:41:45 -0000 Received: from c137085.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [192.168.45.2]) [213.39.137.85] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 26 Oct 2012 20:41:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18dKSgZHPsdORo5H7fqYVImoZSrIA47s5FepYAOy4 sV4g8kU6AXSC9B Message-ID: <508AD967.4000501@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:41:43 +0200 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: py-bittornado gone References: <40E09322-0270-46B5-B130-61FB1C611449@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <40E09322-0270-46B5-B130-61FB1C611449@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:41:47 -0000 On 26.10.2012 19:50, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 26 Oct 2012, at 19:05, Artifex Maximus wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> py-bittornado gone and I accidentally delete with portmanager at >> upgrade. cfv uses and I use cfv for testing torrent so I need >> py-bittornado (or py-bittorrent). How can I restore that package? >> >> Bye, >> a >> > How about getting the original source and building from there, or a package for pkg_add ? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Portdowngrade? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=portdown&stype=all It works fine in the past, but since Release 8.0 i hadn't use it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 19:06:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1485987C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C289A8FC0A for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6E8253FC; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9QJ66XO003606; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:06:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:06:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 Message-Id: <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:06:09 -0000 On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hello Polytropon, > > Thanks for replying. > > > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link > > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. > > Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only > thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 > metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, > the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you > are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports > directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into > the next century. Exactly that would have been the preferred solution. :-) > > You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will > > crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's > > easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal > > with installing and updating of ports. > > For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of > libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the > two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems > to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose > of having port management tools. It also blurs the line between OS (/usr/lib) and additional software (/usr/local/lib) directories. However, both directories are used by the linker, so it looks possible (and probably better than messing with symlinks in /usr/local/lib). Problems _might_ occur when updating world. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 23:05:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E986BD59 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ADE8FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9QN5iKo062881; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9QN5hwt062878; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: ata controller problem In-Reply-To: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, schmidt@ze.tum.de X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:05:49 -0000 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Regarding this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-October/245862.html > > No no NO *NO*! > > I wish people would stop recommending this utter garbage. There is > absolutely no justification behind using the highly convoluted labelling > mechanisms at multiple layers within FreeBSD. There are 3 (possibly 4) > different "label" mechanisms which do nothing but confuse the user, or > cause other oddities/complexities. Good grief, there is so much hard > evidence on the mailing lists over the past 5 (maybe even 7?) years > talking about the utter mess that is filesystem/device/geom/blahblah > labels that to recommend this is borderline insane. Hmm. Six months to April 1? Seriously, labels provide a simple, relocatable identification mechanism that works across machines. If someone finds them confusing, it can be cleared up easily: use GPT labels when possible, otherwise use filesystem labels or glabel. > The proper way to solve this problem is to user /boot/loader.conf > tie-downs to assign each disk to each individual controllers' device > number (e.g. ada0 --> scbus0 --> ahcich0, or whatever you want). Please > note I said ahcichX, not ahciX. Different things. Labels work on different machines or controllers without added configuration, and stay with the partition or filesystem. Your static config appears to not share those properties. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 00:35:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F34B6A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C398FC0A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9R0ZMCo006465; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:35:23 -0600 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:35:21 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-ID: <20121027073521.75690e7a@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, schmidt@ze.tum.de X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:35:30 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:33:38 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Regarding this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-October/245862.html > > No no NO *NO*! > YES, YES, YES, YES! > The proper way to solve this problem is to user /boot/loader.conf How does this help when media is moved between machines? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 08:24:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F01E8B for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (inga.augusta.de [77.90.142.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED148FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inga.augusta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9R8OrSO051987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:24:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with UUCP id q9R8OpbQ051986; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:24:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from wanderer.starbox.augusta.de (wanderer.starbox.augusta.de [192.168.71.2]) by gatekeeper.starbox.augusta.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9R8MIH9010133; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:22:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Message-ID: <508B99A9.6000906@ze.tum.de> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:22:01 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121022 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: ata controller problem References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 OpenPGP: id=4000A915 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020802060106010500090600" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (inga.augusta.de [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:24:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:24:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020802060106010500090600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 26.10.2012 18:33, schrieb Jeremy Chadwick: > Regarding this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-October/245862.html > > No no NO *NO*! > > I wish people would stop recommending this utter garbage. There is > absolutely no justification behind using the highly convoluted labelling > mechanisms at multiple layers within FreeBSD. There are 3 (possibly 4) > different "label" mechanisms which do nothing but confuse the user, or > cause other oddities/complexities. Good grief, there is so much hard > evidence on the mailing lists over the past 5 (maybe even 7?) years > talking about the utter mess that is filesystem/device/geom/blahblah > labels that to recommend this is borderline insane. > > The proper way to solve this problem is to user /boot/loader.conf > tie-downs to assign each disk to each individual controllers' device > number (e.g. ada0 --> scbus0 --> ahcich0, or whatever you want). Please > note I said ahcichX, not ahciX. Different things. > > I have helped others in the past do this; Randy Bush is one such person. > > Taken directly from my /boot/loader.conf with a single SATA controller, > but obviously this can be adjusted to whatever you want. > > # "Wire down" device names (ada[0-5]) to each individual port > # on the SATA/AHCI controller. This ensures that if we reboot > # with a disk missing, the device names stay the same, and stay > # attached to the same SATA/AHCI controller. > # http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-March/011036.html > # > hint.scbus.0.at="ahcich0" > hint.scbus.1.at="ahcich1" > hint.scbus.2.at="ahcich2" > hint.scbus.3.at="ahcich3" > hint.scbus.4.at="ahcich4" > hint.scbus.5.at="ahcich5" > hint.ada.0.at="scbus0" > hint.ada.1.at="scbus1" > hint.ada.2.at="scbus2" > hint.ada.3.at="scbus3" > hint.ada.4.at="scbus4" > hint.ada.5.at="scbus5" > > See CAM(4) man page (read it, don't skim!) for full details. Just > please for the love of god do not use labels to solve this. > Sorry this doesn't work because the numbering of the ahci change with the occupancy of the Hot-Swap Bays. And that is my Problem. This i have tried first. Any idea how i can fix which controller gets which number. Regard Estartu -- ------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | E-Mail und JabberID: TU-München | schmidt@ze.tum.de WWW & Online Services | Tel: 089/289-25270 | Fax: 089/289-25257 | PGP-Publickey auf Anfrage --------------020802060106010500090600-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 08:29:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67A7F78 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (inga.augusta.de [77.90.142.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E50A8FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inga.augusta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9R8TqkE052108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:29:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with UUCP id q9R8Tojq052107; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:29:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from wanderer.starbox.augusta.de (wanderer.starbox.augusta.de [192.168.71.2]) by gatekeeper.starbox.augusta.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9R8Pw3U010158; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:25:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Message-ID: <508B9A85.1030708@ze.tum.de> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:25:41 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121022 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ata controller problem References: <508A7F88.8050309@ze.tum.de> <20121026180013.45c95ea7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121026180013.45c95ea7.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 OpenPGP: id=4000A915 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000408000001000905030608" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (inga.augusta.de [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:29:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:29:58 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000408000001000905030608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 26.10.2012 18:00, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:18:16 +0200, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >> The Problem is that, if there is a Drive in one of the HotSwap Bays the >> PCI-Express controller is detected as ahci0 and the onboard is detected >> as ahci1. Therefore any drives in the HotSwap Bays become ada0-3 and the >> drives on the mainboard controller are the upper numbers which causes >> the boot to fail as the Root Partition isn't there where it's expected. >> The BIOS has the PCI-Express Card as second Card only so the Kernel is >> Booted but the RootFS is not Found. > > You can use labels (GPT or UFS labels) or UFSIDs to become > independent of the actual device name where things are stored > on. You could also use this to make disks easier to identify > (e. g. "/dev/label/red1root" = the disk with a red "1" on it, > carrying the root file system). > > I suggest those pages for more detailed information: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html > > Maybe as well (specific and general notes and inspiration): > > http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=2666 > > http://www.freebsdonline.com/content/view/731/506/ > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html > > I assume that you are using UFS. > > > >> Is there a way to ensure that the onboard SATA Controller is always >> probed first. > > I'm not sure if this can be done, but using labels should > make the question go away, and the problem causing it. :-) Labels are good for naming Drives but how does it help me if the root filesystem changing device ids. I don't think the boot loader is able to use the label for the root Filesystem. Regards Estartu -- ------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | E-Mail und JabberID: TU-München | schmidt@ze.tum.de WWW & Online Services | Tel: 089/289-25270 | Fax: 089/289-25257 | PGP-Publickey auf Anfrage --------------000408000001000905030608-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 08:39:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C84B24F for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BB68FC12 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9R8da12018780; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:39:37 -0600 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:39:35 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gerhard Schmidt Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-ID: <20121027153935.77d013d1@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <508B99A9.6000906@ze.tum.de> References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> <508B99A9.6000906@ze.tum.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:39:50 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:22:01 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > hint.ada.3.at="scbus3" > > hint.ada.4.at="scbus4" > > hint.ada.5.at="scbus5" > > > > See CAM(4) man page (read it, don't skim!) for full details. Just > > please for the love of god do not use labels to solve this. > > > Sorry this doesn't work because the numbering of the ahci change with > the occupancy of the Hot-Swap Bays. > > And that is my Problem. This i have tried first. > > Any idea how i can fix which controller gets which number. > just you labels. Chose the labelling method which fits best your file system. gpt seems to fit most scenarios. Labels came up to solve your problem. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 08:42:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9EA2F4 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232BA8FC0A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so4797686vcb.13 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TevJOVRAuc+2HB9wpf67bhAe86pwpKh2BBWfkZ+dXJQ=; b=HkptB4OpBradHsNvGvzmCYf4x5W4XuezA4/kUsfIimxlbFgnHiE+4UzdTgpwMwyG/G 27THbujJTgDYGoM/mvQh9XMB1T/C2uAhHW0Kq2HPX4TLgT9YVNj8vwE5mqcyjqIxkdqw hwoV4wms+FRtDkZqGnjDsBgL2VUDW32VS5iwvHzeg9XPwnjzuuk5TXyXRr7DphdbJBMr VX11HsBbsOC1fgcEhEJp3VJWVMaZ2uhFPGzJxFoD+QhjfZqaR3skhvp6m+hY9900k+x7 wAQpI/TNAHbxptq5rmvzWIjRxxB/YExwLGWyLN1YBhZNloYQNVoAehPWOMlzOi9Iu4mc Rnkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.154.68 with SMTP id n4mr788109vcw.22.1351327330180; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.186.197 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:42:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:42:10 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 From: Alexandr Alexeev To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manish Jain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:42:11 -0000 Sometimes placing symlink to the newer version of library instead of older version helps. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> >> Hello Polytropon, >> >> Thanks for replying. >> >> > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link >> > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. >> >> Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only >> thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 >> metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, >> the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you >> are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports >> directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into >> the next century. > > Exactly that would have been the preferred solution. :-) > > > >> > You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will >> > crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's >> > easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal >> > with installing and updating of ports. >> >> For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of >> libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the >> two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems >> to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose >> of having port management tools. > > It also blurs the line between OS (/usr/lib) and additional > software (/usr/local/lib) directories. However, both directories > are used by the linker, so it looks possible (and probably better > than messing with symlinks in /usr/local/lib). Problems _might_ > occur when updating world. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best regards, Alex Alexeev http://twitter.com/afiskon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 08:43:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D593A2 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC1C8FC12 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9R8haoR019617; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:43:38 -0600 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:43:35 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gerhard Schmidt Subject: Re: ata controller problem Message-ID: <20121027154335.24aa8b16@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <508B9A85.1030708@ze.tum.de> References: <508A7F88.8050309@ze.tum.de> <20121026180013.45c95ea7.freebsd@edvax.de> <508B9A85.1030708@ze.tum.de> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:43:46 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:25:41 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > On 26.10.2012 18:00, Polytropon wrote: => > I'm not sure if this can be done, but using labels should > > make the question go away, and the problem causing it. :-) > > Labels are good for naming Drives but how does it help me if the root > filesystem changing device ids. I don't think the boot loader is able > to use the label for the root Filesystem. > put a root file system on all drives and make it bootable. I use this trick also. You do not need that much space there to get the system up compared to the size of current media. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 09:00:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766EFBDF for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FC58FC12 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id G9061k002516WCc01907RU; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:00:07 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=XOyyuHdE c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=zRMSIEZPnIEA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=FBQl176IrJwA:10 a=RXKPr3rVuHz7Y1mkgtYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TS2FR-0000w7-E1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:00:05 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:00:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201210271000.05046.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TW_BP autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:15 -0000 On Saturday 27 October 2012 09:42:10 Alexandr Alexeev wrote: > Sometimes placing symlink to the newer version of library instead of > older version helps. Specifying the alternative version in /etc/libmap.conf (5) is a neater way of doing this. The man page also shows you how to restrict the mapping to apply for only specified executables. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 09:00:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E367CC3 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FFB8FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so6209880iea.13 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:00:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XuhXXgqVaq01gezTmRnTFiCzFdRThv9JZ2zV4mezR/A=; b=E/0PcSBCP5sboxOopwRdIXDNCBQcTKF3xW4MxVmojVFubx+dPCSsoclh2OLqgYQkA7 EoVM1s36oWtLH/R2bG+T3Hh/EqijQ8GAuI29WU5jSveZy/r+UD38SPZkW5ZXEZymrZGd nONCc+as7Q5pVES3qL2yyCFOHxFAIiK6oURjRNtgjmFCZ+Ldf3UxarclacPsE/5FKjbz 85oB9bgdQYr/iqY+rW+4uUIo5DQa5wI62YBolY+uZ+stp+guZUgi1qZtxYcPFhKxhltT 4K/S2pDSxGpcCO8UkekHTE5hTBfvXom9GxcrEKTeN1u+3VNIb1FU+J6WOkn+fsSrqhyr 18ng== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.184.232 with SMTP id ex8mr4434641igc.30.1351328448480; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.67.111 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:00:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <508AD967.4000501@gmx.de> References: <40E09322-0270-46B5-B130-61FB1C611449@my.gd> <508AD967.4000501@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: py-bittornado gone From: Artifex Maximus To: "lokadamus@gmx.de" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:00:49 -0000 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, lokadamus@gmx.de wrote: > On 26.10.2012 19:50, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> On 26 Oct 2012, at 19:05, Artifex Maximus wrote: >> >>> py-bittornado gone and I accidentally delete with portmanager at >>> upgrade. cfv uses and I use cfv for testing torrent so I need >>> py-bittornado (or py-bittorrent). How can I restore that package? >>> >>> Bye, >>> a >>> >> How about getting the original source and building from there, or a >> package for pkg_add ? >> > Portdowngrade? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=portdown&stype=all > > It works fine in the past, but since Release 8.0 i hadn't use it. Thanks both of you. I do not know about portdowngrade but sounds good. I will go that way first and if that fail then I will try to find the package and use pkg_add. Bye, a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 11:23:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B54C51 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA988FC17 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id GBLS1k004516WCc01BLTwp; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:20:27 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=GZiVbHrL c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=T7Rejxk0lcMA:10 a=YQAILBJnEUsoWNWhWCkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TS4RE-000LLo-Uu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:20:26 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:20:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201210271220.24428.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TW_SV autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: freebsd-update IDS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:23:37 -0000 I've installed 9.1-RC2 after using svn to download /usr/src. Shortly after rebooting into the new system, and just out of curiosity, I ran "freebsd-update IDS" and was surprised to see that it reported 735 hash mismatches. Some of these were for files modified locally like /etc/hosts but the majority were for files that I've not changed, e.g. /usr/bin/clang-cpp has SHA256 hash 8937eebfc2bd2d18d05b786a568fbff980cf1b5a7333b8133cb197e7cd48ffcc, but should have SHA256 hash 36b39d8f00b1c5aab193d594ff67bfdb7a382b2bdb5b30c824254e9d658fbf8c. Are svn and freebsd-update looking at different versions of the system or do I have a problem? Considering the very short time interval between installing the system and checking IDS I'm quite confident my system hasn't been hacked from outside. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 13:28:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2319AD0 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1F28FC0C for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP110 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:27:32 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [14.96.112.216] X-EIP: [uPouN2CBP16U4Dbn7WxYGrvu5443dvOu] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.96.112.216]) by BLU0-SMTP110.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:27:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:57:11 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandr Alexeev Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 References: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2012 13:27:31.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1155900:01CDB446] Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:28:39 -0000 > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >>> >>> Hello Polytropon, >>> >>> Thanks for replying. >>> >>> > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link >>> > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. >>> >>> Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only >>> thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 >>> metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, >>> the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you >>> are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports >>> directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into >>> the next century. >> >> Exactly that would have been the preferred solution. :-) >> >> >> >>>> You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will >>>> crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's >>>> easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal >>>> with installing and updating of ports. >>> >>> For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of >>> libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the >>> two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems >>> to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose >>> of having port management tools. >> >> It also blurs the line between OS (/usr/lib) and additional >> software (/usr/local/lib) directories. However, both directories >> are used by the linker, so it looks possible (and probably better >> than messing with symlinks in /usr/local/lib). Problems _might_ >> occur when updating world. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Sometimes placing symlink to the newer version of library instead of > older version helps. > There is only one symlink (/usr/local/bin/libpng.so) and it points to the newer version. Regards, Manish Jain bourne.identity@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 13:35:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA77C4C for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (inga.augusta.de [77.90.142.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011068FC19 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inga.augusta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9RDYq03064086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:34:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with UUCP id q9RDYoXx064085 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:34:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from wanderer.starbox.augusta.de (wanderer.starbox.augusta.de [192.168.71.2]) by gatekeeper.starbox.augusta.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9RDVAwO011993 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:31:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Message-ID: <508BE20C.1060202@ze.tum.de> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:30:52 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121022 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ata controller problem References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> <508B99A9.6000906@ze.tum.de> <20121027153935.77d013d1@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121027153935.77d013d1@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 OpenPGP: id=4000A915 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFD78EC22E3F905602C60A3A2" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (inga.augusta.de [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:34:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:35:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFD78EC22E3F905602C60A3A2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040000020604050800090901" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040000020604050800090901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.10.2012 10:39, schrieb Erich Dollansky: > Hi, >=20 > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:22:01 +0200 > Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >=20 >>> hint.ada.3.at=3D"scbus3" >>> hint.ada.4.at=3D"scbus4" >>> hint.ada.5.at=3D"scbus5" >>> >>> See CAM(4) man page (read it, don't skim!) for full details. Just >>> please for the love of god do not use labels to solve this. >>> >> Sorry this doesn't work because the numbering of the ahci change with >> the occupancy of the Hot-Swap Bays. >> >> And that is my Problem. This i have tried first. >> >> Any idea how i can fix which controller gets which number. >> > just you labels. Chose the labelling method which fits best your file > system. gpt seems to fit most scenarios. >=20 > Labels came up to solve your problem. Can I mount the root filesystem via label. That's the problem here. Regard Estartu --=20 ------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | E-Mail und JabberID: TU-M=FCnchen | schmidt@ze.tum.de WWW & Online Services | Tel: 089/289-25270 | Fax: 089/289-25257 | PGP-Publickey auf Anfrage --------------040000020604050800090901-- --------------enigFD78EC22E3F905602C60A3A2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEVAwUBUIviDNl1K6RAAKkVAQLCigf/WAp4gQeJQXfOIrE6xIfDzOYWNeDCmcZl mjcEE1CxKaqa/ZLgLQSl/N8CmeszYzTZ82doJNsyBtNPF/HyzhYqYDBfCFe9aLII 4szzru/McHfHWG6eJAQ5Cb5n5GRfn9RY0EmPL/fDQvw3hvtmxeFKkHgZVV1MXdiu NOsbCxQKOY3d57M0oIAAAS8RG9FyuUTH1mN308bY7fi5WNm57TxfDlXgAkLVb5y5 LwWfLY7eTx+P7Et3HtxQxvg3mbv/fhb8FoWJaNR/TlyRdBHNM5maNiPmZDlHvLCC Qcgc/X24QoqfDN8RvmzVB/jl1KGs4SrZ0Gzv6YPkYu6W0j6LNACT4w== =Ug6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFD78EC22E3F905602C60A3A2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 14:01:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D221EF6D for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from mx1.blackfoot.net (mx1.blackfoot.net [216.14.232.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43508FC18 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.blackfoot.net ([12.32.35.49]) by mx1.blackfoot.net ({9cf3d135-7b6e-4041-a57b-61a932741f4e}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121027135734758 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:57:34 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from webmail.blackfoot.net (w3-1.int-net.blackfoot.net [192.168.100.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.blackfoot.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q9RDvXTs030916 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:57:34 -0600 Received: from 12.32.36.73 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vagabond) by webmail.blackfoot.net with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <48144.12.32.36.73.1351346254.squirrel@webmail.blackfoot.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: nvidia driver on amd64 (for asus nvidia gt 610) From: "Gary Aitken" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-MAG-OUTBOUND: blackfoot.redcondor.net@12.32.35.49/32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:01:13 -0000 running 9.0 release Being frustrated with my radeon hd-5550 video card which occasionally (once a week or so) goes into some kind of reset loop, filling up Xorg.0.log and crashing the system because /var is full... I picked up an asus nvidia gt 610. Downloaded the nvidia driver and tried to build it. make ominously reports: ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386-freebsd (nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64-freebsd (nvidia.ko) is not supported. Where is the elf32-i386-freebsd stuff coming from? I unpacked the driver in a tmp directory and did a make install there. I found the following which implied it is a make problem in 9.0: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-toolchain/2011-August/000265.html I'm guessing it can be made to work but I need to define appropriate make architecture variables, and I'm not sure how to do dat. Hints? BTW, can anyone explain why Xorg.*.log doesn't get closed and a new file opened when it gets rather large and then rotate the way syslogs normally do? It seems to rotate only when the server is restarted, or at least that's all I've observed. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 14:07:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52301AC for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D768FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q9RDoAEe057737 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:50:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <508BE692.9000800@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:50:10 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: nvidia driver on amd64 (for asus nvidia gt 610) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:50:10 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:07:58 -0000 running 9.0 release Being frustrated with my radeon hd-5550 video card which occasionally (once a week or so) goes into some kind of reset loop, filling up Xorg.0.log and crashing the system because /var is full... I picked up an asus nvidia gt 610. Downloaded the nvidia driver and tried to build it. make ominously reports: ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386-freebsd (nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64-freebsd (nvidia.ko) is not supported. Where is the elf32-i386-freebsd stuff coming from? I just unpacked the driver in a tmp directory and did a make install there. I found the following which implied it is a make problem in 9.0: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-toolchain/2011-August/000265.html I'm guessing it can be made to work but I need to define appropriate make architecture variables, and I'm not sure how to do dat. Hints? BTW, can anyone explain why Xorg.*.log doesn't get closed and a new file opened when it gets rather large and then rotate the way syslogs normally do? It seems to rotate only when the server is restarted, or at least that's all I've observed. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 15:43:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7261E1D4 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABAA8FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80864607E for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:43:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <508C011C.3060807@bnrlabs.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:43:24 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ata controller problem / AHCI numbering References: <20121026163338.GA32286@icarus.home.lan> <508B99A9.6000906@ze.tum.de> In-Reply-To: <508B99A9.6000906@ze.tum.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:43:28 -0000 On 2012.10.26 14:18, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >> if there is a Drive in one of the HotSwap Bays the >> PCI-Express controller is detected as ahci0 and the onboard is detected >> as ahci1. >> So Far i could have set some devices.hints entries to sort the scsi >> busses. But the problem is that if there are no drives in the Bays the >> PCI-Expresscard is detected as ahci1 On 2012.10.27 10:22, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > Am 26.10.2012 18:33, schrieb Jeremy Chadwick: >> The proper way to solve this problem is to user /boot/loader.conf >> tie-downs to assign each disk to each individual controllers' device >> number (e.g. ada0 --> scbus0 --> ahcich0, or whatever you want). Please >> note I said ahcichX, not ahciX. Different things. > Sorry this doesn't work because the numbering of the ahci change with > the occupancy of the Hot-Swap Bays. I'm surprised and curious about this... Don't all devices, including SATA/AHCI controllers, get probed and numbered in the order they are presented to a kernel ? What can cause that presentation order to vary when physical connections don't change ? How could even an intrusive x86 BIOS "feature" change that presentation order based on whether or not a disk is connected to a peripheral device ? Doesn't a BIOS stay ignorant of what is plugged into external controllers, which have their own boot ROM ? Certainly FreeBSD's kernel would not bother to reorder device numbers based on what is connected to them lower down the chain after it's discovered these "children", right ? (I'd be curious to take a look at your dmesg, Gerhard) I wish I could test this and figure it out on my own, but I don't have the right hardware available to replicate it and VirtualBox only supports a single virtual SATA controller. Using two identical (crappy) ASMedia AHCI 6Gbps PCIe adapters, I wasn't able to get their ahci numbering reversed by plugging or unplugging disks from them before booting. But the mainboard's SATA controllers are driven by atapci instead of ahci, so it's not quite the same... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 16:10:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB1D9C1 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D158FC14 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({34b3fc79-8c76-4cfb-a4c0-c941747cf3b5}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121027160635475 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:06:35 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from birch.localnet (unknown [207.55.106.48]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BA6C494031 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by birch.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA68556E8 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B766DADE for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q9RG6WhR086606; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ata controller problem References: <508A7F88.8050309@ze.tum.de> <20121026180013.45c95ea7.freebsd@edvax.de> <508B9A85.1030708@ze.tum.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:06:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <508B9A85.1030708@ze.tum.de> (Gerhard Schmidt's message of "Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:25:41 +0200") Message-ID: <87k3ubsxvb.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:10:01 -0000 Gerhard Schmidt writes: > Labels are good for naming Drives but how does it help me if the root > filesystem changing device ids. I don't think the boot loader is able to > use the label for the root Filesystem. >From my fstab: /dev/ufs/Oak / ufs rw,noatime 1 1 /dev/label/OakSwap none swap sw 0 0 I think any of the other label schemes will also work. If you don't remember which label is which device id, then 'glabel status' will show that, but you shouldn't need to. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 16:42:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8DEF64 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noreply+27kou6@twoomail.com) Received: from mx02.twoomail.com (mx02.twoomail.com [77.73.178.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276C18FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:41:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=twoomail.com; s=k256; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@twoomail.com; t=1351356113; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=MY2KAQ2UI71RcTQM60zEODP+OUY8kx3WLdgH4FP67B0=; b=ti9lEEl7FR6cjagl2c8tm2BfOILW85ZUY4/M+RQZl3Io7tlJ+wGrITKel9QrdspM wv/lEoSm4BU0nAU9HP8hu20dM5HJfvw6FJfUF2giamV07IzhaIimeEBPOR3Z+7D/ 5f+E0rmSsFiXZyGp5gTw63wMwsHqIh1Z/l1xBXYtADg=; Received: from [192.168.3.235] ([192.168.3.235:64696] helo=web) by mx19.netlogmail.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B4/85-04717-1DE0C805; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:41:53 +0000 From: "Warezweza via Twoo" Message-ID: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Sender: noreply+27kou6@twoomail.com Subject: Warezweza added you as a contact on Twoo and wants to connect Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:41:53 +0000 X-MM-ID: -6aWQ9Mjdrb3U2LG1taWQ9OTktMjdrb3U2LTdvNW15d3ZuLXc3MzUsYXBwaWQ9Mix0PTIscz0xLHY9MjgsdT0sZj0xNzAyNTk3MyxkPTEzNTEzNTYxMTMsbT1w X-rpcampaign: Twoo0020010280 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "noreply+27kou6@twoomail.com" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:42:01 -0000 Warezweza added you as a contact on Twoo and wants to connect. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 17:56:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938CF86E for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A35D8FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.239] (vhost.johnea.net [192.168.100.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E30B73F188B for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508C2043.8070205@johnea.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:55:54 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:56:26 -0000 On 2012-10-23 17:46, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >> To create a swap and then a root that fills the rest of the disk, must the swap be created first, like this: >> >> gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 4g mirror/gm0s1 >> gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 >> >> Is there any other way to tell gpart to create the / partition using all space except 4G? > > I'm afraid it requires one to Use Math(tm). gpart show will at least show the real capacity of a drive, instead of the diagonally-measured inflated units used by drive vendors. Thanks for your guidance Warren! I've also been reading a number of threads on the forums on this subject, to which you contributed. Rather than face the scary prospect of using actual Math(tm) 8-) I was just going to create swap first at 8G, and let the freebsd partition fill the rest of the disk, however as I try to destroy previous non-aligned MBR and gmirror metadata, I'm running into issues: "mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes" Below is a short screen shot of the commands used to destroy and then recreate gmirror. I'm currently running with non-geom ada0 as root, and am attempting to create the aligned partitions of gm0 on ada1. I'm not sure what to do to cause the MBR scheme to be aligned. Thanks for any feedback! johnea orsbackup# mount /dev/ada0s1a on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) orsbackup# gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ada1 (ACTIVE) orsbackup# gpart destroy -F mirror/gm0 mirror/gm0 destroyed orsbackup# gpart create -s MBR mirror/gm0 mirror/gm0 created orsbackup# ls /dev/mirror/ gm0 orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes orsbackup# gpart show => 63 3907029105 ada0 MBR (1.8T) 63 63 - free - (31k) 126 3906994077 1 freebsd [active] (1.8T) 3906994203 34965 - free - (17M) => 0 3906994077 ada0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 3890216960 1 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) 3890216960 16777116 2 freebsd-swap (8G) 3906994076 1 - free - (512B) => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) 63 63 - free - (31k) 126 3907028979 1 freebsd (1.8T) 3907029105 62 - free - (31k) => 0 3907028979 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 3890216960 1 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) 3890216960 16777116 2 freebsd-swap (8G) 3906994076 34903 - free - (17M) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 18:04:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6F89DA for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BB98FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q9RI4mXi058423 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:04:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <508C223F.4000505@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:04:47 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia driver on amd64 (for asus nvidia gt 610) References: <508BE692.9000800@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <508BE692.9000800@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:04:48 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:04:49 -0000 On 10/27/12 07:50, Gary Aitken wrote: > running 9.0 release > > Being frustrated with my radeon hd-5550 video card which occasionally > (once a week or so) goes into some kind of reset loop, filling up > Xorg.0.log and crashing the system because /var is full... > > I picked up an asus nvidia gt 610. > Downloaded the nvidia driver and tried to build it. > > make ominously reports: > ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386-freebsd > (nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64-freebsd (nvidia.ko) is not supported. > > Where is the elf32-i386-freebsd stuff coming from? > I just unpacked the driver in a tmp directory and did a make install there. > > I found the following which implied it is a make problem in 9.0: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-toolchain/2011-August/000265.html > > I'm guessing it can be made to work but I need to define appropriate make > architecture variables, and I'm not sure how to do dat. > Hints? > > BTW, can anyone explain why Xorg.*.log doesn't get closed and a new file > opened when it gets rather large and then rotate the way syslogs normally do? > It seems to rotate only when the server is restarted, or at least that's all > I've observed. My apologies for the original double posting; saw a temporary reject in my maillog and thought it would turn into a real one due to a past problem. I found the following patch and applied it, http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org/msg00256.html Also discovered I had downloaded the x86 version instead of the 64bit version. "make CC=clang CXX=clang++ install" seemed to work; now on to testing it. Sorry for the mixup. 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[78.25.13.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i7sm1523767lbg.13.2012.10.27.11.22.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508C2668.4010006@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:22:32 +0300 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121016 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: Portupgrade now supports pkgng [/usr/ports/UPDATING] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:22:36 -0000 Quick question about portupgrade's support for pkgng. The /usr/ports/UPDATING says: 20121015: AFFECTS: users of ports-mgmt/portupgrade AUTHOR: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org Portupgrade now supports pkgng. To use pkgng, enable it in your make.conf, and convert your databases. This is optional and not currently required. # make -C /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg install clean # echo 'WITH_PKGNG=yes' >> /etc/make.conf # pkg2ng # pkgdb -fu Having done all of the above, I ran portupgrade to update all the pkgs that needed upgrading on my system, and got the message below: root@box0:/root/tmp # portupgrade -varRP --batch -L '%s_%s' USING PKGNG Packages are not yet suported. Use pkg(8) directly. That doesn't sound like portupgrade supports pkgng, or did I misread the message in the UPDATING file? box0=; uname -a FreeBSD box0.my.domain 9.1-RC2 FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241133: Tue Oct 2 17:11:45 UTC 2012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Thanks. Alexander Kapshuk. 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Hi, I'm so impressed freebsd system that try to use it anywhere and in anyt= hing. 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Hi, I'm so impressed freebsd system that try to use it anywhere and in anyt= hing. 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Hi, I'm so impressed freebsd system that try to use it anywhere and in anyt= hing. 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[78.25.13.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x5sm1574146lbf.9.2012.10.27.12.38.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508C3841.2010203@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:38:41 +0300 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121016 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: re: Portupgrade now supports pkgng [/usr/ports/UPDATING] References: <508C2668.4010006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <508C2668.4010006@gmail.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <508C2668.4010006@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:38:45 -0000 If my reading the code snippet below is right, portupgrade-2.4.10.2 does not support pkgng yet if pkgdb has been converted for use with pkgng using pkg2ng. /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/work/pkgtools-2.4.10.2/bin/portupgrade:561,565 # FIXME: pkgng if $use_packages && $pkgdb.with_pkgng? STDERR.puts "Packages are not yet suported. Use pkg(8) directly." return 0 end -------- Original Message -------- Subject: re: Portupgrade now supports pkgng [/usr/ports/UPDATING] Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:22:32 +0300 From: Alexander Kapshuk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Quick question about portupgrade's support for pkgng. The /usr/ports/UPDATING says: 20121015: AFFECTS: users of ports-mgmt/portupgrade AUTHOR: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org Portupgrade now supports pkgng. To use pkgng, enable it in your make.conf, and convert your databases. This is optional and not currently required. # make -C /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg install clean # echo 'WITH_PKGNG=yes' >> /etc/make.conf # pkg2ng # pkgdb -fu Having done all of the above, I ran portupgrade to update all the pkgs that needed upgrading on my system, and got the message below: root@box0:/root/tmp # portupgrade -varRP --batch -L '%s_%s' USING PKGNG Packages are not yet suported. Use pkg(8) directly. That doesn't sound like portupgrade supports pkgng, or did I misread the message in the UPDATING file? box0=; uname -a FreeBSD box0.my.domain 9.1-RC2 FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241133: Tue Oct 2 17:11:45 UTC 2012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Thanks. Alexander Kapshuk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 20:13:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A866EEBE for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B648FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP474 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:13:44 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [14.99.2.11] X-EIP: [K6hgeGToLNWHcDu3KfdoUgcTT9Ez2XBJ] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.99.2.11]) by BLU0-SMTP474.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:13:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandr Alexeev Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 References: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2012 20:13:43.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FDCF040:01CDB47F] Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:13:50 -0000 > But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present > a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not > have any image on them. The problem is not Mozilla-specific. I built Opera web browser from ports, and that too has images missing from its buttons. Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" in the coming days. Regards, Manish Jain bourne.identity@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 20:19:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F616A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130A68FC08 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811DB3D042; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:19:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9RKJGGG003870; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:19:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:19:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 Message-Id: <20121027221916.1eff3d9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121026164311.6a44948b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121026210606.829bf5bd.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexandr Alexeev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:19:24 -0000 On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present > > a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not > > have any image on them. > > > The problem is not Mozilla-specific. I built Opera web browser from > ports, and that too has images missing from its buttons. It seems that the problem is in some dependency, not the "top port" itself. This usually indicates that something in /usr/local is dangerously out of sync, and in most cases, "wide re-installs" solve such kind of problem. > Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" > in the coming days. You just need to imagine the images. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 21:02:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E29487F for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78F58FC18 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q9RKxkwY008161 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:59:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:59:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201210272059.q9RKxkwY008161@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 In-Reply-To: <20121027221916.1eff3d9e.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:02:29 -0000 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:19:16 +0200 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" > > in the coming days. > > You just need to imagine the images. :-) > It's a complex issue. a purely imagine-ary solution is inadequate. *SNICKER* (or *ALMOND*JOY* if you prefer nuts) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 21:42:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82263467 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADE48FC0C for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9RLgBwe070095; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9RLgBu1070092; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd@johnea.net Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? In-Reply-To: <508C2043.8070205@johnea.net> Message-ID: References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> <508C2043.8070205@johnea.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:42:12 -0000 On Sat, 27 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > On 2012-10-23 17:46, Warren Block wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > >>> To create a swap and then a root that fills the rest of the disk, must the swap be created first, like this: >>> >>> gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 4g mirror/gm0s1 >>> gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 >>> >>> Is there any other way to tell gpart to create the / partition using all space except 4G? >> >> I'm afraid it requires one to Use Math(tm). gpart show will at least show the real capacity of a drive, instead of the diagonally-measured inflated units used by drive vendors. > > Thanks for your guidance Warren! I've also been reading a number of threads on the forums on this subject, to which you contributed. > > Rather than face the scary prospect of using actual Math(tm) 8-) I was just going to create swap first at 8G, and let the freebsd partition fill the rest of the disk, however as I try to destroy previous non-aligned MBR and gmirror metadata, I'm running into issues: > > "mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes" > > Below is a short screen shot of the commands used to destroy and then recreate gmirror. I'm currently running with non-geom ada0 as root, and am attempting to create the aligned partitions of gm0 on ada1. > > I'm not sure what to do to cause the MBR scheme to be aligned. Thanks for any feedback! > > johnea > > orsbackup# mount > /dev/ada0s1a on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) > orsbackup# gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ada1 (ACTIVE) > orsbackup# gpart destroy -F mirror/gm0 > mirror/gm0 destroyed > orsbackup# gpart create -s MBR mirror/gm0 > mirror/gm0 created > orsbackup# ls /dev/mirror/ > gm0 > orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 > mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes This is new to me, I have not seen it before. I had the impression that gpart put the bsdlabel partition table at a misaligned offset so that the actual filesystems in those partitions would land on an aligned block, but it never gave that message. That comes from sys/geom/part/g_part.c, function g_part_ctl_add which starts at line 645: 743 /* Provide feedback if so requested. */ 744 if (gpp->gpp_parms & G_PART_PARM_OUTPUT) { 745 sb = sbuf_new_auto(); 746 G_PART_FULLNAME(table, entry, sb, gp->name); 747 if (pp->stripesize > 0 && entry->gpe_pp->stripeoffset != 0) 748 sbuf_printf(sb, " added, but partition is not " 749 "aligned on %u bytes\n", pp->stripesize); 750 else 751 sbuf_cat(sb, " added\n"); 752 sbuf_finish(sb); 753 gctl_set_param(req, "output", sbuf_data(sb), sbuf_len(sb) + 1); 754 sbuf_delete(sb); 755 } 756 return (0); > orsbackup# gpart show > => 63 3907029105 ada0 MBR (1.8T) > 63 63 - free - (31k) > 126 3906994077 1 freebsd [active] (1.8T) > 3906994203 34965 - free - (17M) > > => 0 3906994077 ada0s1 BSD (1.8T) > 0 3890216960 1 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) > 3890216960 16777116 2 freebsd-swap (8G) > 3906994076 1 - free - (512B) > > => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) > 63 63 - free - (31k) > 126 3907028979 1 freebsd (1.8T) > 3907029105 62 - free - (31k) > > => 0 3907028979 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) > 0 3890216960 1 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) > 3890216960 16777116 2 freebsd-swap (8G) > 3906994076 34903 - free - (17M) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 22:10:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20179C5A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE248FC0A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.239] (vhost.johnea.net [192.168.100.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10AEF73F188B for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508C5BE6.4000405@johnea.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:10:21 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> <508C2043.8070205@johnea.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:10:48 -0000 On 2012-10-27 14:41, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > >> On 2012-10-23 17:46, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >> orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 >> mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes > > This is new to me, I have not seen it before. I had the impression that gpart put the bsdlabel partition table at a misaligned offset so that the actual filesystems in those partitions would land on an aligned block, but it never gave that message. That comes from sys/geom/part/g_part.c, function g_part_ctl_add which starts at line 645: > > 743 /* Provide feedback if so requested. */ > 744 if (gpp->gpp_parms & G_PART_PARM_OUTPUT) { > 745 sb = sbuf_new_auto(); > 746 G_PART_FULLNAME(table, entry, sb, gp->name); > 747 if (pp->stripesize > 0 && entry->gpe_pp->stripeoffset != 0) > 748 sbuf_printf(sb, " added, but partition is not " > 749 "aligned on %u bytes\n", pp->stripesize); > 750 else > 751 sbuf_cat(sb, " added\n"); > 752 sbuf_finish(sb); > 753 gctl_set_param(req, "output", sbuf_data(sb), sbuf_len(sb) + 1); > 754 sbuf_delete(sb); > 755 } > 756 return (0); > Thanks Warren! I ended up just ignoring the not aligned warning from the "gpart add -t freebsd" and went on to add the freebsd-swap and freebsd-ufs partitions with "-a 4k" option. Do you think I'm aligned? Thanks! johnea orsbackup# gpart create -s BSD mirror/gm0s1 mirror/gm0s1 created orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 8g mirror/gm0s1 mirror/gm0s1a added orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 mirror/gm0s1b added orsbackup# gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr mirror/gm0 bootcode written to mirror/gm0 orsbackup# gpart set -a active -i 1 mirror/gm0 active set on mirror/gm0s1 orsbackup# gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot mirror/gm0s1 bootcode written to mirror/gm0s1 orsbackup# orsbackup# gpart show => 63 3907029105 ada0 MBR (1.8T) 63 63 - free - (31k) 126 3906994077 1 freebsd [active] (1.8T) 3906994203 34965 - free - (17M) => 0 3906994077 ada0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 3890216960 1 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) 3890216960 16777116 2 freebsd-swap (8G) 3906994076 1 - free - (512B) => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) 63 63 - free - (31k) 126 3907028979 1 freebsd (1.8T) 3907029105 62 - free - (31k) => 0 3907028979 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 2 - free - (1.0k) 2 16777216 1 freebsd-swap (8.0G) 16777218 3890251760 2 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) 3907028978 1 - free - (512B) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 23:01:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1867FAE5 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15878FC12 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9RN1RZ3070470; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:01:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9RN1Rfg070467; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:01:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:01:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd@johnea.net Subject: Re: 9.1 and gmirror with GPT? In-Reply-To: <508C5BE6.4000405@johnea.net> Message-ID: References: <5082EAEE.4040609@johnea.net> <50833F78.1060609@bnrlabs.com> <5085C743.8000508@johnea.net> <5086C7EB.9020104@johnea.net> <508C2043.8070205@johnea.net> <508C5BE6.4000405@johnea.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:01:29 -0000 On Sat, 27 Oct 2012, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > I ended up just ignoring the not aligned warning from the "gpart add -t freebsd" and went on to add the freebsd-swap and freebsd-ufs partitions with "-a 4k" option. > > Do you think I'm aligned? ... > => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) > 63 63 - free - (31k) > 126 3907028979 1 freebsd (1.8T) > 3907029105 62 - free - (31k) > > => 0 3907028979 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) > 0 2 - free - (1.0k) > 2 16777216 1 freebsd-swap (8.0G) > 16777218 3890251760 2 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) > 3907028978 1 - free - (512B) The slice starts at block 126, and then the swap partition starts an additional two blocks into the slice, which is block 128, evenly divisible by 8 (4096 = 512 * 8). The freebsd-ufs partition starts at 126+16777218, which is also evenly divisible by 8. So yes, that looks aligned to me. 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