From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 04:19:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35385106564A; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095398FC08; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q544JVKM007278; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:19:31 GMT (envelope-from edwin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from edwin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q544JVlA007274; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:19:31 GMT (envelope-from edwin) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 04:19:31 GMT Message-Id: <201206040419.q544JVlA007274@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org From: edwin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/168645: [UPDATE] x11/luit to 1.1.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 04:19:32 -0000 Synopsis: [UPDATE] x11/luit to 1.1.1 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->freebsd-x11 Responsible-Changed-By: edwin Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jun 4 04:19:31 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer (via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=168645 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 11:07:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926BD1065676 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1228FC15 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54B7stl017653 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:07:54 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q54B7r7d017651 for freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:07:53 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:07:53 GMT Message-Id: <201206041107.q54B7r7d017651@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:07:54 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/168645 x11 [UPDATE] x11/luit to 1.1.1 f ports/167797 x11 graphics/gthumb crashes, dumps core o ports/167654 x11 x11-wm/twm - no mouse cursor o ports/167596 x11 [patch] I have rolled back x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmwa o ports/167533 x11 [patch] x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics option for ha o ports/167489 x11 [patch] fix graphics/libdrm build on tier-2 o ports/167228 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel : Missing dependency (x1 o ports/167194 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics 1.5.0 trackpoint(LENO a ports/166373 x11 x11/libX11 fails if /usr/bin/cpp is clang o ports/166163 x11 graphics/dri: gthumb port crashes (SIGSEGV) within the o ports/165981 x11 devel/imake doesn't play nice with current xorg o ports/165599 x11 [x11/xkeyboard-config] x11/xkbcomp as a RUN_DEPENDS o power/165585 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: Both Xorg and Xorg-server por p ports/164349 x11 [PATCH] x11/libXinerama :1 LeftOf or Above :0 mouse is o ports/161480 x11 [patch] x11/luit: don't depend on pty(4), use openpty( o ports/160968 x11 [patch] ports/x11/libXi broken manpages o ports/160963 x11 [patch] x11/bigreqsproto: disable specs o ports/159792 x11 [patch] USB HID devices support for x11-drivers/xf86-i o ports/158529 x11 [patch] x11-servers/xorg-server: conditionalize --with o ports/158513 x11 Broken Xvideo in x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel drivers o ports/157282 x11 [MAINTAINER PATCH] net/xrdp: effective login name is n o ports/156949 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati 6.14.1 produce black blank f ports/156424 x11 8.2R xrandr & xf86-video-intel & xorg-server packages o ports/156405 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati driver: no hardware renderi o ports/156042 x11 x11/xorg hang in combination with KWin-Tiling o ports/155696 x11 [patch] x11-servers/xorg-server: chase AIGLX altered d o ports/155683 x11 x11/xdm [patch] Enabling IPv6 support breaks IPv4 o ports/154651 x11 [PATCH] graphics/dri: make it possible to choose which f ports/154510 x11 [patch] x11/xorg: xorg servers have Motif-crippling bu o ports/154502 x11 x11/xdm authorization failure when used with E17 windo o ports/154449 x11 x11/xorg: missing manpage (7) Xsecurity o ports/154423 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd: radeon xorg driver ca o ports/153593 x11 graphics/dri: clutter segfault, something to do with i o ports/153495 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati wavy line problem for lenov o ports/153358 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel: Intel driver freeze with o ports/152159 x11 [hang] xorg/x11: X11 freezes with Intel Mobile 965 and o ports/151596 x11 x11/xorg: wacom bamboo button 1 no longer works o ports/150633 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: KVM switching causing X serve o ports/150155 x11 x11/xorg hangs after xrandr(1) usage o ports/149743 x11 x11/xorg: garbled window since Xorg-7.5 o ports/149636 x11 x11/xorg: buffer overflow in pci_device_freebsd_read_r o ports/148591 x11 information note for x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics o ports/148444 x11 [hang] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel: intel driver free f ports/148340 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-neomagic: unresolved symbol xf8 o ports/147318 x11 [Patch]graphics/libdrm:Fix the PLIST when define WITHO o ports/146256 x11 x11/xorg does fails to start after upgrade from 7.4 to o ports/145649 x11 x11/xorg: X server crashes when starting opengl compos o ports/142069 x11 x11/xorg: After adding on a laptop Toshiba Sattelite L o ports/141660 x11 x11/xorg: X can't determine amount of video memory on o ports/139011 x11 [patch] Add options to support GLX TLS in x11-servers o ports/135276 x11 x11/xorg: GUI running first time only while using Free o ports/134132 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: Intel i845 - xorg.conf with U o ports/131930 x11 [PATCH] x11-servers/xorg-server coredumps on exit o ports/131726 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: xorg server messes with my eh o ports/122830 x11 x11/xorg: Error in I830WaitLpRing() o ports/120947 x11 x11/xsm ignores system.xsm and .xsmstartup 56 problems total. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 11:17:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8148106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madis555@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6043F8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id g1so4430807wer.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:17:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:message-id:date; bh=6oIiTJL+/Ci7TtR5s3BBplmdtFhtKSXkWOinAqOspHY=; b=cXV0jcLT2gA8zpxG0TxHzboHnWpWTM935839RIMzTzLcWF3lxafR+LDAtpPAVNcXHc xxeRCNlwR/jeubMg8C46svgMxYa7lKFT8QnnC4G0StQNYD6krQNifHtlz2glKlpMi1PQ VM3Tpite3TcFiDzk7VaBFigbaprxBcW9eRNFvOmedECQxnnVEEKyd57C0ZoD79ngT9nE kKioaqxPfVhcHM8lWidFwvsLNqjrtzEssSabRZLrVx/1aQmHmShIQb1vBdUwA0Kw4Cfc iw3Ch2NRVuhvEBzmbx9cBRjZRpJFNQssWWun9OT6prt60FAonDW+eVlH/b98JDEVikA7 VSaQ== Received: by 10.216.194.139 with SMTP id m11mr14129578wen.198.1338895024870; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ketas-laptop.mydomain (195.20.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee. 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Tue Jun 5 14:17:02 EEST 2012 ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 04:51:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEDA106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A498FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb7f8hsrpno-svcs.dcs.int.inet (HELO pd6ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Jun 2012 22:51:55 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=Cufqhujp69hR+MhiHu40yK/USb/hlYs0+irVU46A6+k= c=1 sm=1 a=sBHJYtQKa3IA:10 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=9I5xiGouAAAA:8 a=QBqNkTFZ4tg_WacMsk4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2fPOlPt4dusA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by pd6ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Jun 2012 22:51:54 -0600 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy2 [10.1.2.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB7880; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q564psL2007069; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201206060451.q564psL2007069@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.3 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Jakub Lach In-Reply-To: Message from Jakub Lach of "Sun, 27 May 2012 05:58:32 PDT." <1338123512740-5712551.post@n5.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:51:54 -0700 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KMS (all.15.1.patch) for 9-STABLE /GM45 case study X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:51:56 -0000 I'm running -CURRENT and 14.9 on stable (different partitions on the same laptop). I'm getting kernel hangs when large amounts of output are sent to the display, e.g. a video or a gnome-terminal running find / output to the terminal. I haven't captured debugging info yet, compiled DDB into the kernel but still need to get another USB to serial to attach my old laptop and get diagnostic info, but for now DRM2 will cause a hard hang when a lot of output is sent to the display. If anyone has any ideas, great. If not, I'll purchase another USB-to-serial cord and try to get more info. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org In message <1338123512740-5712551.post@n5.nabble.com>, Jakub Lach writes: > Will wait for MFC this time and give it a second shot :) > > -- > View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/KMS-all-15 > -1-patch-for-9-STABLE-GM45-case-study-tp5710299p5712551.html > Sent from the freebsd-x11 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 08:09:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C5B1065677 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6C08FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so6890778bkv.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:08:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l/Q+uY1QCvRDmP5w5k4XAIznMdiN5mlOaZa3Yy3K9RM=; b=XzjKGLJCGCSSeXfn3P57KtkoOaxcd8WDwxM6AzynUYC8FT0hzOZmhBfVmq/fFOE+ba eRssbxZi8NKmI2rFRzztTzcBElRkBk+69CXIsSynVEOwUGNNXWAT+RWF6fFzJ8DHnsXf ktev0a/nF/+ehgjcv397qGoUb+l3JiZXtM82Xae+LoWnYF4qbYUb9WEMLf4nOutSB/Bc I3Cb10br1nUcFnIDpGcbRBMwz2wqwbf4gHk3GSftfQiWJ0J3moqndSMzhlkGpcKaYjle he7l4a1scaY0cVv7QrqvqI4dH3eTqEYMP1zUwM5wJYWT4KvruAq5cRIWx6w11n1I/4zi o6+Q== Received: by 10.204.150.76 with SMTP id x12mr11058102bkv.97.1338970124851; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gm18sm940073bkc.7.2012.06.06.01.08.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF1009.4060700@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:08:41 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120605 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ports/165361: x11-wm/e17-module-mem - patch sumbitted, stalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:09:09 -0000 Hi all. Would anyone take care of this one? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/165361 -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 10:11:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7AB1065673 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0809D8FC15 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so7026493bkv.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 03:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=17IGdLsQksgPSUdhb9WW8Cee7h9qUqoJebzEhbwbk5M=; b=a5b7KMySKQ8baoVvlHmSanuzO6FrEmxFodEFE38/459Gc8tvZwPWzwM6T7OXSH8lB/ mRdi11QGhdwnNPSmXcLAscm2JDo+g1pPqM5vYey70347qzQ//4gWfwtlz4wTvNAGncWm V+sgvzcEwIfZyztp1JWITQXniWVLfKKjV5AzeAebVLWLW8CEAfFGe/AXXRlBhXpsuDnU VLborxlA9F1U72JidU6qtmv1a864uOJwlvkdEf46ayx918w04yrBppQ+e/2POFHoaXjn FbcARU7gaE0kOOtTczsuSDITX7vzuHu45oNF3nRs/zahe0AQU2fN2WyuG77EnSrjlc8d Dudw== Received: by 10.204.128.201 with SMTP id l9mr11886393bks.68.1338977501809; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 03:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x23sm1493898bkw.12.2012.06.06.03.11.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 03:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCF2CDA.9010901@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:11:38 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120605 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: x11/nvidia-driver misses dependency (x11/libXvMC) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:11:43 -0000 Hi all. Currently installed /usr/local/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1 depends on libXvMC.so.1: arcade@green\/usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver# ldd /usr/local/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1 /usr/local/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1: libX11.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x801227000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x801558000) libXvMC.so.1 => not found (0) libXv.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXv.so.1 (0x801769000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80081c000) libxcb.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 (0x80196e000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x801b88000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x801d8a000) libpthread-stubs.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so.0 (0x801f8f000) librpcsvc.so.5 => /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5 (0x802190000) But the port didn't require x11/libXvMC to be installed. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 13:16:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80521065670; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7F78FC1A; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56DGQ8P049719; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:16:26 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q56DGQSq049718; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:16:26 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:16:23 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: x11@FreeBSD.org, danfe@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:16:26 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I would like to propose a way to make nvidia drivers stop overwritting files namely libGL.so.1 and libglx.so. Why stop overwritting files is important to me? first pkgng do not support it in fact is forbid it for sake of consistency and integrity of the installed package. second if you upgrade libGL after having the nvidia drivers already installed your drivers will stop working as expected Unless you are going to manurally reinstall the drivers. That is for the rationnal now the proposition. I have modified rtld so that libmap.conf is now aware of 2 new directives: include and includedir this is in current and have been MFCed into 9 no MFC to 8 planned for now as it depends on previous modifications of rtld which were not MFC to 8 yet. What I would love to see is: nvidia drivers no more installing libGL.so.1 and libglx.so files but instead of that install libGL-nvidia.so.1 and libglx-nvidia.so.1 And same for every single library possibly overwritten by nvidia For FreeBSD version not supporting include{,dir} in libmap.conf, add an entry to libmap.conf to map libGL.so.1 to libGL-nvidia.so.1 etc. for FreeBSD version supporting those directives just make sure that includedir ${LOCALBASE}/etc/libmap exists if not add the line. and add a nvidia.conf file into etc/libmap with the mapping in it. I'm aware of the move of the old libGL and libglx in the @exec @unexec, this isn't sufficient and it still break the consistency of the installed packages database. regards, Bapt --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/PWCcACgkQ8kTtMUmk6ExLzwCeNqRAchTI5sQj/JCIc3gYEtdz JX8AniK+8uxLIxhKj8LbqQK215N7+Rw0 =FRxP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:16:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B8A1065678; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABEF8FC1C; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:16:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=lxgOiYydDKm60NXELuE6sWDiMniPZRQAL4x1fAMrPyA=; b=Hnp48PhRoVTP6enBrGpk1/swoFdNHykGTPzkRzjk4gUoD1WYsn+8/bvSqsyxYeGISlP//T6wLvR0nN0Ed08WHjAsN+PYfiEJ9bkYB94ce9D7vW0O4fhd4smsLlo1IWlh; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScH2C-0001uW-9O; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:16:31 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338992182-26372-26371/5/34; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:16:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: x11@freebsd.org References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:16:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: danfe@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:16:32 -0000 I love the idea of using libmap.conf to resolve this issue. What are the consequences of 8 not having the rtld fixes? Will they get backported as an official patch to 8.3? I think having legacy (7.4) being left behind is probably OK considering the support is nearing end, but it seems odd that we would fix up the ports tree with these new improvements and end up excluding FreeBSD 8.3 users from being able to use the x11/nvidia-driver port. I know the release process has been a hot topic, so I'm curious how this will work out in the long run. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:27:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04321065679; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C480B8FC14; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56ER7oF082631; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:27:07 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q56ER7Fa082630; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:27:07 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@freebsd.org using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:27:04 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Mark Felder Message-ID: <20120606142704.GC84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: danfe@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:27:08 -0000 --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 09:16:22AM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > I love the idea of using libmap.conf to resolve this issue. >=20 > What are the consequences of 8 not having the rtld fixes? Will they get = =20 > backported as an official patch to 8.3? I think having legacy (7.4) being= =20 > left behind is probably OK considering the support is nearing end, but it= =20 > seems odd that we would fix up the ports tree with these new improvements= =20 > and end up excluding FreeBSD 8.3 users from being able to use the =20 > x11/nvidia-driver port. I know the release process has been a hot topic, = =20 > so I'm curious how this will work out in the long run. The only difference is that on 8.3 and other version without my extension t= he port will "pollute" libmap.conf with the extension the port will provide a clean etc/libmap/nvidia.conf They can all works regards, Bapt --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/PaLgACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ey8nwCdErcB9/aEsX9811j4K4jF4OtX vq8An3/LN4z9Seu3iCqHghNn+eJcz1RV =avgz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:35:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6132106564A; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB8A8FC0A; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:35:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=ZfwSmd9lnEwsrmVj8rHlIKtWh+YhHdNjlRtwHjTZZEQ=; b=OjqRGFNdZq73r/aOY27UhaHvkTFs9f2kxmhpogn48OuhVUJOHBwIXo2s9QUtpuQbujli/OfAggqk2riE6cp+Spi/lYne2HDQWKjCLtdJHErdavljNHJ+dPO0LWReGCr5; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScHKg-0002ZA-CQ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:35:34 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338993328-26372-26371/5/36; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:35:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: x11@freebsd.org References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120606142704.GC84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:35:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120606142704.GC84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , danfe@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:35:35 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:27:04 -0500, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > The only difference is that on 8.3 and other version without my > extension the > port will "pollute" libmap.conf > with the extension the port will provide a clean etc/libmap/nvidia.conf Oh! Thanks for the clarification; I thought there was some entirely missing featureset required for this to work, not just the ability for ports to install their own libmap config files. For the record, will these be located in /etc/libmap/ or /usr/local/etc/libmap/ ? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:47:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875FD1065670; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0098FC16; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56ElPQK021139; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:47:25 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q56ElP2S021138; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:47:25 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@freebsd.org using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:47:22 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Mark Felder Message-ID: <20120606144722.GD84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120606142704.GC84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: danfe@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:47:25 -0000 --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 09:35:28AM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:27:04 -0500, Baptiste Daroussin = =20 > wrote: >=20 > > The only difference is that on 8.3 and other version without my =20 > > extension the > > port will "pollute" libmap.conf > > with the extension the port will provide a clean etc/libmap/nvidia.conf >=20 > Oh! Thanks for the clarification; I thought there was some entirely =20 > missing featureset required for this to work, not just the ability for = =20 > ports to install their own libmap config files. >=20 > For the record, will these be located in /etc/libmap/ or =20 > /usr/local/etc/libmap/ ? >=20 >=20 > Thanks! Let's clarify. My change allow to add a new directive to libmap.conf which means that: prior to my patch the mapping should be added to /etc/libmap.conf after my patch we just need to make sure that /etc/libmap.conf has the foll= owing line: includedir /usr/local/etc/libmap the ports can now create /usr/local/etc/libmap/myport.conf regards, Bapt --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/PbXoACgkQ8kTtMUmk6ExVdwCgmIT0RwsgCGABDeiY2ykdPW3X KdAAnA5aQo7sQrCE5YZMzLPQDiZfTm80 =494V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 14:49:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B90106566B; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5C28FC08; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:49:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=TeWfs0VyCafa+D+KKV9CJMoYtgMxPVpxYzNt8NJVF5g=; b=PoLVR1t4YQ94zqxYmeybYvo+xW2QRYh0PQsmrsLUpmLzn4N8wMNLqdccwLLd0F9F7Y/vH7+JNj1LQTe+Doz6XAHBQ0ozwGH1O3Y6PIBw5umHYO4qrHFUMDW1efuCPi8T; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScHXm-0002vm-6u; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:49:09 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338994140-26372-26371/5/37; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:49:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: x11@freebsd.org References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120606142704.GC84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120606144722.GD84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:49:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120606144722.GD84459@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , danfe@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:49:10 -0000 Thanks for your hard work. I have a few ideas of my own that could utilize this... From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 15:02:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F8F106566B; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@symmetricom.com) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E4C8FC1A; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gromit.timing.com (gromit.timing.com [206.168.13.209]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56F27u1073422; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:02:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein@symmetricom.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56F1gT7083893; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:01:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein@gromit.timing.com) Received: (from jhein@localhost) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q56F1gdc083892; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:01:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20431.28886.146662.868144@gromit.timing.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:01:42 -0600 From: John Hein To: Baptiste Daroussin In-Reply-To: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b-8.2.x-reddyuday.r1325 under 24.0.93.1 (i386-portbld-freebsd7.4) Cc: danfe@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:02:08 -0000 Baptiste Daroussin wrote at 15:16 +0200 on Jun 6, 2012: > I would like to propose a way to make nvidia drivers stop overwritting files > namely libGL.so.1 and libglx.so. > > Why stop overwritting files is important to me? first pkgng do not support it in > fact is forbid it for sake of consistency and integrity of the installed > package. > > second if you upgrade libGL after having the nvidia drivers already installed > your drivers will stop working as expected Unless you are going to manurally > reinstall the drivers. > > That is for the rationnal now the proposition. > > I have modified rtld so that libmap.conf is now aware of 2 new directives: > include and includedir this is in current and have been MFCed into 9 no MFC to 8 > planned for now as it depends on previous modifications of rtld which were not > MFC to 8 yet. > > What I would love to see is: nvidia drivers no more installing libGL.so.1 and > libglx.so files but instead of that install libGL-nvidia.so.1 and > libglx-nvidia.so.1 > > And same for every single library possibly overwritten by nvidia > > For FreeBSD version not supporting include{,dir} in libmap.conf, add an entry to > libmap.conf to map libGL.so.1 to libGL-nvidia.so.1 etc. > for FreeBSD version supporting those directives just make sure that includedir > ${LOCALBASE}/etc/libmap exists if not add the line. > > and add a nvidia.conf file into etc/libmap with the mapping in it. > > I'm aware of the move of the old libGL and libglx in the @exec @unexec, this > isn't sufficient and it still break the consistency of the installed packages > database. > > regards, > Bapt I agree that the nvidia driver port should install a non-conflicting libGL (and libGL-nvidia seems fine to me). The problem I have with defining libGL.so in libmap.conf is similar to my previous issue with the "alternatives" approach. It is more difficult to specify one or the other (nvidia or mesa) flavor of libGL than, for instance, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH. That said, libmap.conf is better than the previously considered alternatives style sym links because you have granularity at the application level at least (using a constrained mapping for an executable). So libmap.conf can specify different versions of libGL for different applications (e.g., regular X server vs. virtual X server like Xvnc). Regular users don't have that control, however, so INSTALL_AS_USER is broken since non-root users can't modify libmap.conf normally. Allowing users write access to libmap.conf (or included libmap files) is an unacceptable security hole, of course. So, for reasons of flexibility, I prefer solutions that ultimately deal with LD_LIBRARY_PATH or user-controllable options (possibly including application-specific config files). But the libmap approach doesn't preclude using LD_LIBRARY_PATH, of course. And it will work for most users. The only things I can think of to consider if making the libmap switch are: (a) Try not to break INSTALL_AS_USER. Probably just skipping any libmap.conf modification is okay, either relying on the user to make appropriate sym links and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH manually or for bonus points adding a pkg-message explaining things. (b) Some applications may not work with the nvidia libGL. Those may require constrained executable mappings in libmap.conf. Unfortunately, I don't know which ones, if any, fall into that category and I currently don't have nvidia controllers on my freebsd boxen. Does anyone know if there are any ports for which mesa's libGL is required or preferred over the nvidia flavor? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 15:12:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A8A106566B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEE68FC1B for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=NWWoo86Qk5XW3T1lYFaZr49yUZdYgzH6KlsVYCfZrVc=; b=JC6Gm1u3LmheWhcvemr14LgSAjmdSj3ZmzuPTKysxIiCKJEYbJKwH9em5pL34DL3FovprM49iQj0/6bp3ouskUwQJC0FNeHIRjc5h/1kLlcOYonhA1gya+okeQ4o4JDS; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScHul-0003hD-Du; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:12:55 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338995565-26372-26371/5/38; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:12:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: x11@freebsd.org References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20431.28886.146662.868144@gromit.timing.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:12:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20431.28886.146662.868144@gromit.timing.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:12:56 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:01:42 -0500, John Hein wrote: > Does anyone know if there are any ports for which mesa's libGL is > required or preferred over the nvidia flavor? Wouldn't this be more obvious already? I'd suspect some existing Nvidia user would have reported a bug already about a program not working because the current situation completely overwrites the mesa libGL, so it's nearly the same situation. I've been running Nvidia for years and use all sorts of applications. So far I haven't hit this yet, so presumably there are minimal compatibility issues. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:11:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF625106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@symmetricom.com) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE808FC0A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gromit.timing.com (gromit.timing.com [206.168.13.209]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56GB7lq073968; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:11:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein@symmetricom.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56GAYOV088062; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:10:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein@gromit.timing.com) Received: (from jhein@localhost) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q56GASr1088061; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:10:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20431.33012.144653.728657@gromit.timing.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:10:28 -0600 From: John Hein To: Mark Felder In-Reply-To: References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20431.28886.146662.868144@gromit.timing.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b-8.2.x-reddyuday.r1325 under 24.0.93.1 (i386-portbld-freebsd7.4) Cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:11:46 -0000 Mark Felder wrote at 10:12 -0500 on Jun 6, 2012: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:01:42 -0500, John Hein > wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there are any ports for which mesa's libGL is > > required or preferred over the nvidia flavor? > > Wouldn't this be more obvious already? I'd suspect some existing Nvidia > user would have reported a bug already about a program not working because > the current situation completely overwrites the mesa libGL, so it's nearly > the same situation. > > I've been running Nvidia for years and use all sorts of applications. So > far I haven't hit this yet, so presumably there are minimal compatibility > issues. Yes, I expected the number of failure cases to be small and/or not noticed. Have you tried a vnc server that links with libGL and successfully uses 3d acceleration (in a remote vnc viewer)? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 16:14:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24B71065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FEA8FC12 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=bZHpUORBTwSLQ+8o6aZJtWkgOWkpAf7LnnQHrYGex+w=; b=PuxdXWGju96BSNyWpbZxRt9yj1QeTxTqAumJTPh8vJM7nFq6r/XXVMNLeec2yzuqm/5TCUOFYriEJLD3svJeKsXneJLdqfFnIWFa+lMGlIlKhhpPzeDQYFqzLDyGIVcX; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ScIs7-0005Wx-D9; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:14:12 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1338999238-26372-26371/5/41; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:13:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: x11@FreeBSD.org References: <20120606131623.GA82148@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20431.28886.146662.868144@gromit.timing.com> <20431.33012.144653.728657@gromit.timing.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:13:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20431.33012.144653.728657@gromit.timing.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Proposition to make nvidia driver stop overwritting files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:14:15 -0000 On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:10:28 -0500, John Hein wrote: > Yes, I expected the number of failure cases to be small and/or > not noticed. > Have you tried a vnc server that links with libGL and successfully > uses 3d acceleration (in a remote vnc viewer)? Unfortunately I have not (knowingly) tested this. I suppose I could -- do you know which vncserver and client would be a good test case? Does both the server and client need to have the nvidia libGL? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 12:38:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6581065675; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8218FC15; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1073491pbb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:38:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h/Bz7zPQWNyj2YLHVlohOJ0KGeu5vgRJFKqoKXwXTNU=; b=Y85BadHES+/GrL0m5KQqRc0+cMHuGJA8IUSyz0myiWybnIg9HzNGxocWWkGfodoWye w0M0Hq+zaEwYb7cou+gksUCZz2/2Uy+efbLuW7O6xajBiNpWR8jt/ZFs5Dh7MCPt8pEw WKFeuXE6tGi+6ep+8cQudiNTxL6ej9qzVLs0f1D/qzaUvMYAG2jM1J+v4R9uegAQlkoH AwX4etQFnz1knSnrJkscaylOu5l9jheY60rMXM/CViH5BJ+c5skaR253hRUKl1RMc8u+ PROB9Vs30az5ZPCYp8Bsi0OfIOvJGWlRcG0dEgW7ZHfu9deCdn0bZmSsamD+Jf0QR3tM NAMA== Received: by 10.68.130.9 with SMTP id oa9mr8201944pbb.95.1339072681959; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miwifbsd.dyndns.org ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vi10sm4013254pbc.4.2012.06.07.05.38.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Martin Wilke Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:37:53 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: x11@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: miwi@FreeBSD.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:38:02 -0000 Hi Fans, The FreeBSD Xorg Team is pleased to announce Xorg 7.7 Release. We are very happy to be able to Call for testing shortly after the Xorg team annouced 7.7 release. This CFT is also open for discussion on how we should move forward with xorg release as we are facing some issues and we would like to ask for your opinion. Right now we have 2 existing xorg versions in our Ports Tree. The situation is quite bad due to our poor graphic card support. That means we do not have much choice but to take it as how it is now. But with regards to mesa support, we have to face some new challanges. With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or making a new flag like WITH_MESA=3D 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the old xorg version. Obviosly the latter option make the already complex situation more complex. The problem is, users, especially the new ones can easily get confused with it. Another issue is, the packages.We can't deliver a package set with the new Xorg releases. This means users with new hardware will have to compile everything by themselves. Though I'm totally fine with compiling, not everyone has the CPU power to compile everything. What I'm trying to say is, I would love to see the newer xorg released as the default version, but i know this will break a lot of old hardware. The thing is, when we want to try to become a Modern Operating System, I dont see any other way to make the new xorg as default but to give Users the chance to compile the old xorg with a flag like WITH_OLD_XORG. Some notes regarding KMS support: KMS Support has been completely migrated to FreeBSD 10. The MFC to 9 will come soon, that means so long its not MFC'd to 9-Stable, users need to get the latest patch from our x11 mailing list. This testing includes * libdrm 2.4.34 (including KMS support) * mesa 8.0.3 * full Xorg 7.7 release Change log http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.7/changelog.html Checkout Xorg Development Repo: You will need to install devel/subversion in order to checkout the xorg repo. Next, you will need to add WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes in your /etc/make.conf if you want to try out the new Xorg and mesa. Note that if you are not qualified for the KMS patch, you shouldn=E2=80=99t use WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes because the old intel driver doesn=E2=80=99t build with= the new X server. If you are qualified, you should also set WITH_KMS=3Dyes in /etc/make.conf. Nvidia and ATI users should set WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes. svn co https://trillian.chruetertee.ch/svn/ports/trunk A small merge script to merge the svn checkout into the real portstree can be found here: http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/xorg/xorgmerge The script is a modified version of the old kdemerge script. Please set the KDEDIR variable to the path of your X.org ports. After merging, run one of the following command, depending on which tool you use to manage your installed packages. portupgrade -af \* portmaster -a After installing these, you will have to rebuild all xf86-* ports. We will bump all releated ports during the commit to the ports tree. Roadmap: Our current plan is to let the CFT running for a while, and see what the outcome of the discussion above is. We hope to get a lot of feedback to solve as many problems as possible. Also we are working on the libglut to freeglut migration, this will definitely complete before we import Xorg 7.7. So we still have enough time. We are looking forward for your feedback. - miwi on behalf of the FreeBSD X11 Team PS: Please reply only to x11@ thanks. --=20 +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ Facebook: miwi1 Twitter: miwi_ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 13:10:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7D7106564A; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vmagerya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3D8FC08; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so510656laa.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 06:10:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WHUUJzU+J2yHLn/fajgY7rk4fDm4Od80QvPncT2e84M=; b=BeXZLKK7XjvsR3vzwXO4fLIP3O3I9iGMtypLzWB/W/X9IJtbHrAjd+HBixfwtTKzEq 9YtsOANlZxk2AyBVrYPVzRpOjubnk2wKS6vcY2GqwrKOkBufVA5PLqa8ho09sVZCIYGJ WxRKfBvwoK/i4SQRSUjhUqA/W9mkze0OKPcmatfWOJ06YntGz3lgOkieJEafAEwwTgzI Gr7npXXi7XVgIH6cth4ATjbeuNYY4XM8pumt/H5udIJtgQrQioqZ3AvZSciZlV/rVvHb 5E8sWREIgININwYCW1QYJwLHPKeq0DIj8El4qS7L+hC1P7VhKdQ7HWBUOGKqKVHdFNGS qV/w== Received: by 10.152.145.42 with SMTP id sr10mr2476791lab.16.1339074611824; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 06:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.29.1.142] (altimet-gw.cs2.dp.wnet.ua. [217.20.178.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gv8sm4644710lab.14.2012.06.07.06.10.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 06:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD0A7F2.9030504@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:09:06 +0300 From: Vitaly Magerya User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miwi@FreeBSD.org References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:10:14 -0000 Martin Wilke wrote: > With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of > older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to > deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or > making a new flag like WITH_MESA= 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with > WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the > old xorg version. Obviosly the latter option make the already complex > situation more complex. The problem is, users, especially the new ones > can easily get confused with it. Another issue is, the packages.We > can't deliver a package set with the new Xorg releases. Will it be possible to provide, say pkgng repo with packages compiled with new xorg and new mesa? That would simplify testing (and using) by a very large factor. We'd just change PACKAGESITE and run pkg upgrade. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 14:08:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF41106566C; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09CD8FC0C; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q57E7hnO020615; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:07:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q57E7hoO029364; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:07:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q57E7hFU029363; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:07:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:07:43 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: x11@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120607140743.GY85127@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V/5pStbHlGfNIMG1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:08:01 -0000 --V/5pStbHlGfNIMG1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 08:37:53PM +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hi Fans, >=20 > The FreeBSD Xorg Team is pleased to announce Xorg 7.7 Release. We are > very happy to be able to Call for testing shortly after the Xorg team > annouced 7.7 release. This CFT is also open for discussion on how we > should move forward with xorg release as we are facing some issues and > we would like to ask for your opinion. Right now we have 2 existing > xorg versions in our Ports Tree. The situation is quite bad due to our > poor graphic card support. That means we do not have much choice but to > take it as how it is now. But with regards to mesa support, we have to > face some new challanges. >=20 > With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of > older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to > deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or > making a new flag like WITH_MESA=3D 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with > WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the > old xorg version. Obviosly the latter option make the already complex > situation more complex. The problem is, users, especially the new ones > can easily get confused with it. Another issue is, the packages.We > can't deliver a package set with the new Xorg releases. This means > users with new hardware will have to compile everything by themselves. > Though I'm totally fine with compiling, not everyone has the CPU power > to compile everything. What I'm trying to say is, I would love to see > the newer xorg released as the default version, but i know this will > break a lot of old hardware. The thing is, when we want to try to > become a Modern Operating System, I dont see any other way to make the > new xorg as default but to give Users the chance to compile the old > xorg with a flag like WITH_OLD_XORG. [Flag weaving follows] I think it is reasonable and inevitable to drop support for anything except Intel, ATI and NVidia. This seems to be a route taken by the upstream. Currently, ATI is big problem, Intel is less so, and NVidia should work except that we do not have sources for code that works. The upstream decision to handle lesser cards is to provide small kernel-side KMS-only drivers, and use xf86-video-modesetting (if I remember the name of the ddx driver right) for all of them. Driver will use in-kernel KMS to get video mode going, and only procide software acceleration. I will not port these miriad of KMS drivers, I did hoped that initial Intel port and KMS infrastructure would cause some following from other people starting contributing for our GPU support. To not sink completely with Xorg/GPU etc, we need: - a porting work for ATI kernel code (there is initial work done already, and I did promised to port TTM, hopefully will do it). - continue the work of importing Linux changes for generic DRM infrastructu= re and Intel driver. I somewhat run out of stem for this activity. - start porting other kernel drivers from Linux. E.g. GMA500, generic fbdev KMS driver, matrox etc. I simply cannot keep up with all this tasks alone, and already having spent more then a year of my life with that, I want to delegate at last part of t= he load to interested (and capable) people. Please, show the work accomplished, feel free to ask the tecnhical questions about doing it, use the lists for communication. And no, I do not need advises how to do _my_ part of the work. Thank you. --V/5pStbHlGfNIMG1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/Qta8ACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4ja7wCgzKW4pdBqyP2Myn/qDtGm+PNf F7sAnRR7dvNY+HGjtIGE6UoDzl3Lx/yq =qDGx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V/5pStbHlGfNIMG1-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 14:29:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80A91065687; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF38FC1A; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:29:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=eztKsqMMLfAgXvw40tU0JO0K0HwKuHQA67U3mdJiVIw=; b=EdIG0476P80tqL5mrO6O7gwBEJTwmXe0+1V4VuByN3lrDaJgvlo/+yOOF5Q2D1G+1/yELjztqwTh18mRs9vomIW4uDAski32om4yAPaPWkpR+TDv1cvGrWc4SGdnYJs/; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Scdhu-000M0U-9g; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:29:02 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339079341-26372-26371/5/52; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:29:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: miwi@FreeBSD.org, Vitaly Magerya References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FD0A7F2.9030504@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:29:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FD0A7F2.9030504@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, x11@FreeBSD.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:29:04 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:09:06 -0500, Vitaly Magerya wrote: > Will it be possible to provide, say pkgng repo with packages compiled > with new xorg and new mesa? That would simplify testing (and using) by a > very large factor. We'd just change PACKAGESITE and run pkg upgrade. The ability to add multiple PACKAGESITEs somehow and the latter ones override the former if they provide conflicting packages would be an interesting way to handle testing things like this... From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 15:25:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189D106566B; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE988FC08; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q57FPggJ054026; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:25:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q57FPgWE054023; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:25:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:25:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Martin Wilke In-Reply-To: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:25:43 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Martin Wilke wrote: > The FreeBSD Xorg Team is pleased to announce Xorg 7.7 Release. We are > very happy to be able to Call for testing shortly after the Xorg team > annouced 7.7 release. Thanks for your work on this! > This CFT is also open for discussion on how we should move forward > with xorg release as we are facing some issues and we would like to > ask for your opinion. Right now we have 2 existing xorg versions in > our Ports Tree. The situation is quite bad due to our poor graphic > card support. That means we do not have much choice but to take it as > how it is now. But with regards to mesa support, we have to face some > new challanges. > > With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of > older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to > deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or > making a new flag like WITH_MESA= 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with > WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the > old xorg version. WITH_NEW_XORG is already vague, right now we have two that could be considered new. Would WITH_XORG=7.5 or WITH_XORG=7.7 work? That makes it easier to tell what is being requested; "new" is a relative term. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 16:00:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499881065672 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2932E8FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Scf7v-0001Je-T3 for freebsd-x11@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:59:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1339084799874-5716221.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:00:08 -0000 This would somehow break tradition, as in make.conf, src.conf etc. files usually value of variable didn't matter, only if it was set or not (exception would be perl). -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/CFT-Xorg-7-7-ready-for-testing-tp5716151p5716221.html Sent from the freebsd-x11 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:09:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C64F1065675 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1BB8FC1A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1438250pbb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=hQGn5f5tE10MtOaDwLXgeV0dCjQWED7YIp5yVT4EA5A=; b=h+DVf0qHhaUJHx9jcMSRYTfRLSWeqnUeThjrS//kwKRyclU1SLm5oxmDk63rJKSPmt a0T8is1tm7Q/2ZUcmHKoFvvEyKnMp0P7ph8P+iU6Y+wV85oU/AKV8yorrTb8l2UohN8y LyN2fSnswamvwsqf93U2fXdE16NAUICCg9QhXYyHxlMFN7V5PRdLOeCsfM09pepadpWL Ko/uuGkLCPmR0GSItGvmAS0z1W86HkmEoWAuni2eq3PnhXBl6Rnhrv3HWLZVvYW/lu0n +IzFcS1t3v1QctZubzrvBrD65qnW6kxDpaFhjqM4oYJ6YkFIUeLXK+i08kmgavSiPqgu lRnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.223.35 with SMTP id qr3mr10705737pbc.83.1339088993976; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.174.66] In-Reply-To: <20120607140743.GY85127@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <20120607140743.GY85127@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:09:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Konstantin Belousov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9kbMNGWlC0/z+WBAz8q00uLp4nLC8F/XiZGraqKx5ZHukRDv0z1eouRsJx6T93Rcz2FRR Cc: x11@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:09:55 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > I think it is reasonable and inevitable to drop support for anything > except Intel, ATI and NVidia. This seems to be a route taken by the > upstream. Currently, ATI is big problem, Intel is less so, and NVidia > should work except that we do not have sources for code that works. Unfortunately, for some of us stuck on sparc64 with ATI-Rage-XL-based cards (e.g. Sun PGX64), that's not an option. :-( Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:36:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B491065678 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rflynn@acsalaska.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728118FC27 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (squeeze.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.30]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EDF7E861 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:36:55 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <4FD0E6B3.2070409@acsalaska.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:36:51 +0200 From: Mel Flynn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <1339084799874-5716221.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1339084799874-5716221.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:36:57 -0000 On 7-6-2012 17:59, Jakub Lach wrote: > This would somehow break tradition, as in make.conf, src.conf > etc. files usually value of variable didn't matter, only if it was > set or not (exception would be perl). No, it does not. Version variables /always/ refer to a specific version. WITH_BDB_VER/RUBY_VER/ etc. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:40:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B2D1065680; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheus@eternamente.info) Received: from phoenix.eternamente.info (phoenix.eternamente.info [109.169.62.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D6B8FC19; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by phoenix.eternamente.info (Postfix, from userid 80) id B95901CC89; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:39:58 -0300 (BRT) Received: from 177.135.16.160 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matheus) by eternamente.info with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:39:58 -0300 Message-ID: <0bde6f7234e4b87290e7a400b345b20d.squirrel@eternamente.info> In-Reply-To: References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <20120607140743.GY85127@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:39:58 -0300 From: "Nenhum_de_Nos" To: "C. P. Ghost" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: x11@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:40:10 -0000 On Thu, June 7, 2012 14:09, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: >> I think it is reasonable and inevitable to drop support for anything >> except Intel, ATI and NVidia. This seems to be a route taken by the >> upstream. Currently, ATI is big problem, Intel is less so, and NVidia >> should work except that we do not have sources for code that works. > > Unfortunately, for some of us stuck on sparc64 with ATI-Rage-XL-based > cards (e.g. Sun PGX64), that's not an option. :-( as saind in the thread, GMA500 is not in this update. When it is in the state of CFT, please makie this news announce so test could be made. As my machine has GMA500, I will wait :) thanks for the great work, matheus -- We will call you Cygnus, The God of balance you shall be A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 17:53:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EB7106566B; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: from mx1a.lautre.net (mx1a.lautre.net [80.67.160.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16248FC16; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from graf.pompo.net (graf.pompo.net [78.225.128.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: thierry@pompo.net) by mx1a.lautre.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B24B41097; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by graf.pompo.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B7C261147F; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:13:19 +0200 From: Thierry Thomas To: Martin Wilke Message-ID: <20120607171319.GD34758@graf.pompo.net> References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE i386 Organization: Kabbale Eros X-Face: (hRbQnK~Pt7$ct`!fupO(`y_WL4^-Iwn4@ly-.,[4xC4xc; y=\ipKMNm<1J>lv@PP~7Z<.t KjAnXLs: X-PGP: 0xC71405A2 Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:53:08 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le jeu 7 jui 12 =E0 14:37:53 +0200, Martin Wilke =E9crivait=A0: > Hi Fans, Hello Martin, [Lists striiped to x11@ at your request, but please keep me Cc:] > With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of > older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to > deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or > making a new flag like WITH_MESA=3D 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with > WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the > old xorg version. Obviosly the latter option make the already complex > situation more complex. The problem is, users, especially the new ones > can easily get confused with it. Another issue is, the packages.We > can't deliver a package set with the new Xorg releases. This means > users with new hardware will have to compile everything by themselves. Why don't you introduce a slave port? Let's say we could have the default xorg metaport for bleeding-edge machines, and xorg-legacy for the older ones; then both sets of packages would be built. Of course, the dependency chain should be relax enough so that it could be satisfied by any of them, and ALT_PKGDEP should be set by portupgrade's user. Regards, --=20 Th. Thomas. --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/Q4S8ACgkQc95pjMcUBaIUOwCfXVS3rIv1PDvqS8st3+s+oZH0 rtsAoJZgsDT1yj4ekr0oLQJbu8s/jCr0 =LbHy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 20:53:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80F81065674 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAAF8FC12 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ScjiM-0007B2-0s for freebsd-x11@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:53:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:53:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1339102434021-5716310.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD0E6B3.2070409@acsalaska.net> References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <1339084799874-5716221.post@n5.nabble.com> <4FD0E6B3.2070409@acsalaska.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:53:54 -0000 You are obviously right, I was not referring (or thinking) of version variables subgroup (like perl which I mentioned) but that most of them can be set like =true, =yes, =whatever It's rather bikeshed. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/CFT-Xorg-7-7-ready-for-testing-tp5716151p5716310.html Sent from the freebsd-x11 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 21:12:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98C0106566B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rflynn@acsalaska.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64C38FC0A for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (squeeze.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.30]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8B87E861 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:12:17 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <4FD1192D.5080404@acsalaska.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:12:13 +0200 From: Mel Flynn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <1339084799874-5716221.post@n5.nabble.com> <4FD0E6B3.2070409@acsalaska.net> <1339102434021-5716310.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1339102434021-5716310.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:12:19 -0000 On 7-6-2012 22:53, Jakub Lach wrote: > You are obviously right, I was not referring (or thinking) of > version variables subgroup (like perl which I mentioned) but > that most of them can be set like =true, =yes, =whatever > > It's rather bikeshed. Partly. Tying it to a version is preferable, as you're soon going to run out of _NEWER/_NEWEST variants. You can now make WITH_NEW_XORG an alias for WITH_XORG_VERSION=75 and warn about it being removed real soon now(tm). The other thing is that with all the different modules and their own versioning scheme it's hard to tell what "Xorg version X.Y" really is. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 23:50:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294A81065674 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@daemonic.se) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (mail.lysator.liu.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:17:f0a0::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CA88FC0C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3741140014 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C91140013; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on bernadotte.lysator.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 Received: from mx.daemonic.se (mx.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00D7640012; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailscanner.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::6]) by mx.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3W7k5D6Kqvz8ggx; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mx.daemonic.se ([IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::3]) (using TLS with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA) by mailscanner.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [2001:470:dca9:0:1::6]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTPS id SFqzyLrfxAJd; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [10.1.0.4]) by mx.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3W7k5B2G4Jz8ggv; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.32.0.4] (vivi.daemonic.se [10.32.0.4]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W7k5B0NT1z9Ctq; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 01:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD13E2A.8000802@daemonic.se> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:50:02 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: graudeejs@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: graphics/freeglut X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:50:14 -0000 Hi! We in the FreeBSD x11 team are planing on making a switch to use FreeGLUT instead of libGLUT as the default GLUT implementation. This is in line with what most Linux distributions has done, and it also makes sense from a license point of view. The original lisence of libGLUT prohibiths changes, and as such new features and bug fixes are impossible to incorporate in libGLUT. When doing this switch, it would be best if the x11 team could take over maintainership over freeglut, to be able to coordinate updates better, together with updates for the other openGL parts and the xorg packages. I therefore ask you if you are willing to pass maintainership to us. You are also of course welcome to join us in the x11 team and continue your maintainership through us. Best Regards! -- Niclas Zeising on behalf of the FreeBSD x11 team. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 03:18:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FB7106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88CC8FC14 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 03:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so774364qcs.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:18:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cP126IkItZ/DtPQdnq3FOvvwDn0/lMK0GcnkTmyEs/g=; b=AIa2D7xcXleazXzCK3rHUJ1vB3+xQNz5xRbsp3EX6iYDr/9sC85fYckmQTLuJx5luU neFiHwVqP/WMwW2+JZxOUzS49eoJH6fGLUylK5ktZKuOFK6RYCpwr/ksaMQV8IdVOFwX 9aF1e3QYXmpoAitNLnFXOH96LwROZiWDUdX5GdSKSekIzbMI+Hpoa6qn7jyMW+9iIpHw ohN/xU+KDwnHVRcaZaYPQVdEeT4sPJZzny6UuxpSB3brFtGgTQJ4+uXqxzxxrxHd7sS0 9FoEsUFKp8xVwzP4rJ8rm6+v61Y1GflxbxeXdcCj+yPbIRnXCa7P/PAdtvOfjOfinRJk Z/9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.135.83 with SMTP id m19mr1432171qct.23.1339125518055; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.26.6 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:18:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: KMS on 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:18:39 -0000 I have been running the 13.7 patches on my 8-STABLE ThinkPad T520 for a month or so with very few issues. Now I want to update my system, but 13.7 is way too old to play nice with STABLE of today, so I went to the wiki and found a list of svn revisions needed to get KMS working. I will admit to a serious lack of experience with subversion, but I have not succeeded in getting a kernel built. When the revisions are listed, should ONLY those changes in each revision be made to the files in stable or should the file as of that revision be used? For the files in drm2, it's no issue, but I seem to be having issues with the vm files. Any change of seeing the Intel KMS stuff merged into 9-STABLE before 9.1? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 04:02:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A091065670 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276AE8FC12 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 04:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so2344394obc.13 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sZ2sj28nhjSn3EF0n0RfMdGFj+0NBe547ZXiPiJFJ+o=; b=sEOUJf8TOZenTx5OGA9gIFUxUEtE3Ncp3hJJSxnNQ/bPkc3IJ7p7rAWdicLmyJX714 VKnGVuTCgr6heW27XcR8+V4VNbtVVybCMA4yTvPcuqqLFlqnm40zc+He2uRG4VhFnfOl N7jGu8GrKYn4Pbd0cJ926y9MRhZFhCZVbPncon5eTD5ugJgG9K5wJctSp7G9OOI19HnI cKQ7/H6e8ZbNSq5Nq8FT1ZGsWkFMDFNngz73hKexRDecp+FW242s1xAS4chaeXrBNY7l jCiq5FKalRE9THXIg4LUV187v/RGuyP8ACMv1bSNXt1n5ooc0mwETWxdgMXGX3xkxUwn e62w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.197 with SMTP id p5mr3508785oee.32.1339128135342; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.66.230 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:02:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120607203753.2466c63a.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:02:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brandon Gooch To: x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: [CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing! X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 04:02:16 -0000 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hi Fans, > > The FreeBSD Xorg Team is pleased to announce Xorg 7.7 Release. We are > very happy to be able to Call for testing shortly after the Xorg team > annouced 7.7 release. This CFT is also open for discussion on how we > should move forward with xorg release as we are facing some issues and > we would like to ask for your opinion. Right now we have 2 existing > xorg versions in our Ports Tree. The situation is quite bad due to our > poor graphic card support. That means we do not have much choice but to > take it as how it is now. But with regards to mesa support, we have to > face some new challanges. > > With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of > older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to > deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or > making a new flag like WITH_MESA=3D 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with > WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the > old xorg version. Obviosly the latter option make the already complex > situation more complex. The problem is, users, especially =A0the new ones > can easily get confused with it. Another issue is, the packages.We > can't deliver a package set with the new Xorg releases. This means > users with new hardware will have to compile everything by themselves. > Though I'm totally fine with compiling, not everyone has the CPU power > to compile everything. What I'm trying to say is, I would love to see > the newer xorg released as the default version, but i know this will > break a lot of old hardware. The thing is, when we want to try to > become a Modern Operating System, I dont see any other way to make the > new xorg as default but to give Users the chance to compile the old > xorg with a flag like WITH_OLD_XORG. > > Some notes regarding KMS support: > KMS Support has been completely migrated to FreeBSD 10. The MFC to 9 > will come soon, that means so long its not MFC'd to 9-Stable, users > need to get the latest patch from our x11 mailing list. > > This testing includes > * libdrm 2.4.34 (including KMS support) > * mesa 8.0.3 > * full Xorg 7.7 release Change log > =A0http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.7/changelog.html > > Checkout Xorg Development Repo: > You will need to install devel/subversion in order to checkout the xorg > repo. Next, you will need to add WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes in > your /etc/make.conf if you want to try out the new Xorg and mesa. Note > that if you are not qualified for the KMS patch, you shouldn=92t use > WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes because the old intel driver doesn=92t build with the > new X server. If you are qualified, you should also set WITH_KMS=3Dyes > in /etc/make.conf. Nvidia and ATI users should set WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes. > > svn co https://trillian.chruetertee.ch/svn/ports/trunk > > A small merge script to merge the svn checkout into the real portstree > can be found here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/xorg/xorgmerge > > The script is a modified version of the old kdemerge script. Please set > the KDEDIR variable to the path of your X.org ports. After merging, run > one of the following command, depending on which tool you use to manage > your installed packages. > > portupgrade -af \* > portmaster -a > > > After installing these, you will have to rebuild all xf86-* ports. We > will bump all releated ports during the commit to the ports tree. > > Roadmap: > Our current plan is to let the CFT running for a while, and see what > the outcome of the discussion above is. We hope to get a lot of > feedback to solve as many problems as possible. Also we are working on > the libglut to freeglut migration, this will definitely complete before > we import Xorg 7.7. So we still have enough time. =A0We are looking > forward for your feedback. > > - miwi on behalf of the FreeBSD X11 Team > > PS: Please reply only to x11@ thanks. > I just tried building on 10-CURRENT with clang, and ran into the issue with the code in nouveau_array.c described here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2012-April/074582.html Are there plans to fix this for this round of testing? I generated the patch as per the follow-up message here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2012-April/074583.html I'm retrying the build now, and if all goes well, I'll continue testing. Thanks for the all of your hard work on Xorg! -Brandon From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 07:03:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D113106564A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C39A8FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 07:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so2283888pbb.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:03:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7omXTJ9kqCUG0DFTErz9zatgBDqmqP36aOmOeOxyEs8=; b=nn78HDO9dcC5QFfGvVdXrhOaxttT3SfoN0ydbXBsQwMQNG87oLIBPO/+bff92L0PG4 b3jrZAq3FNMGbV0nuFgmLyxZRVsOoGwObWTfXPmmBEUjcCBSSk+Mdo4PNuANjJpJ3xL5 Q9mfxMSN19mab/pB6Nd7Gg6ONfRUQDXAAyx/R8MIpfcCxh+nCZ/VUHRjaWpSd83HVFHf +r/T+pOn3hUpqNN4KfvbItObzarih4xPHmLN7w3uBoqff5Ft/12591shf2Tv9/op1/g7 u3N+jFzLsOycJ/3Y3baNXua3X4OEpj9HTykcLL/MhLb4CXV1ealweTRKgHhmUh17VuP0 jqjg== Received: by 10.68.131.35 with SMTP id oj3mr3629507pbb.156.1339139031897; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miwifbsd.dyndns.org ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tz10sm3318781pbc.64.2012.06.08.00.03.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Martin Wilke Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:03:45 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120608150345.66ef85f7.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KMS on 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: miwi@FreeBSD.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:03:52 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:18:37 -0700 Kevin Oberman wrote: > Any change of seeing the Intel KMS stuff merged into 9-STABLE before > 9.1? Yes more or less 3 weeks to go.. -- +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ Facebook: miwi1 Twitter: miwi_ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 15:20:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95931065670; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DC78FC08; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd0zN-0001JP-FS; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:20:37 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd0zN-00011h-1J; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:20:37 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q58FKa6R017914; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:20:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q58FKaYv017913; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:20:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:20:36 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120608152036.GA17676@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: pkgng x11/xdm list of installed files incomplete? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:20:38 -0000 # þkg infø -xl xðm xðm-¹.¹.¹¹ øwns the følløwing files: /usr/løcãl/bin/xðm /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/ãuthðir /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/chøøser /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/libXðmGreet.lã /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/libXðmGreet.sø /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/þixmãþs/xørg-bw.xþm /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/þixmãþs/xørg.xþm /usr/løcãl/mãn/mãn¹/xðm.¹.gz /usr/løcãl/shãre/X¹¹/ãþþ-ðefãults/©høøser /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Give©ønsøle /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Tãke©ønsøle /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xãccess /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xreset /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xresøurces /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xservers /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xsessiøn /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xsetuþ_0 /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xstãrtuþ /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xwilling /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/xðm-cønfig /usr/løcãl/shãre/licenses/xðm-¹.¹.¹¹/LÏ©ËNSË /usr/løcãl/shãre/licenses/xðm-¹.¹.¹¹/MÏT /usr/løcãl/shãre/licenses/xðm-¹.¹.¹¹/cãtãløg.mk However, these files are also installed by xdm: # ls -ãl /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/ tøtãl ¹20 ðrwxr-xr-x 4 røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 . ðrwxr-xr-x ¹¹ røøt wheel 5¹2 Mãý 29 2³:59 .. -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ³25 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Give©ønsøle -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹84 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Tãke©ønsøle -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel ³40¹ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xãccess -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹9³ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xreset -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel 2744 Jun 8 ¹5:³9 Xresøurces -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel 429 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xservers -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 875 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xsessiøn -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 88 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xsetuþ_0 -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹96 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xstãrtuþ -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 29¹ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xwilling ðrwx------ ³ røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 ãuthðir -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 20568 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 chøøser -rwxr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹47¹ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 libXðmGreet.lã -rwxr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 62079 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 libXðmGreet.sø ðrwxr-xr-x 2 røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 þixmãþs -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel ¹³46 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 xðm-cønfig # most of which are not shown with pkg info -l Or am I missing something? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 8 16:26:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CF0106566B; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664488FC14; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so1083494wgb.31 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:26:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wt5gfaNqzCIQuOZ6LBFLfbS8tB2vmfLyEqbcg/sAqds=; b=xzx6wG5hTkLCQ4JAMCLG2Y6u77rre6L5kj0fLTFCjEPapthxgD4T/jRzBjw3F0kPbK rnnfolYylUvtMEgzi7k45k65O8oV2vGpAXVH6isAIPY96u1TXJIcNMn7NU3LSm1QpKLs MP/lYWe3cnLZrFuv+BANM3xJl02OA1mcRXTzM5YSxmIJC786AQQBAsOpYTvwlpkAgepk vzON+ljVgyj69XF33/wTyXkKrdccQvf96kYa9AQ7EoFpnkgvUJiZ9t1JI+UgktvA1dGz pcYYI4WtEjZt4lKtUr/aC6oqpw6VKfVi1n6YmvfXDh3Zsz8eXZYSuxDbHTys+hNGW7GS H9eQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.215.194 with SMTP id e44mr1721148wep.61.1339172812742; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.155.4 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:26:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120608150345.66ef85f7.miwi@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120608150345.66ef85f7.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:26:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: miwi@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KMS on 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:26:55 -0000 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Martin Wilke wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:18:37 -0700 > Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> Any change of seeing the Intel KMS stuff merged into 9-STABLE before >> 9.1? > > Yes more or less 3 weeks to go.. > > -- > +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ > > Facebook: =A0 =A0 =A0 miwi1 > Twitter: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0miwi_ Thanks, Martin. And thank you and the rest of the x11 team for all of your work in trying to keep X11 usable with increasingly Linuxized sources. I find it ironic that this should be the case after all of the work done in the early days of X (x11R1 through X11R6) to make X entirely OS agnostic, even to make driver binaries run on other OSes like VMS. (Of course, DEC put a to of resources into early releases of X.) Now, to survive the next three weeks (more or less). --=20 R. 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[82.239.76.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q53sm30611623eef.8.2012.06.09.01.59.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD31067.4090506@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:59:19 +0200 From: Florent Peterschmitt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120602 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: x11@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel WITH_NEW_XORG extra-i915kms X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 08:59:26 -0000 Hello, I use new xorg in ports (xorg-server 1.10.6,1) and the xf86-video-intel port is broken with the patch drm/kms 14.9. The patch extra-i915kms doesn't give the name of the kernel module i915. Is it possible to have an option like NEW_XORG_STABLE which says to this driver not to patch ? Thanks a lot. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 11:26:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4170106567C; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@daemonic.se) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (mail.lysator.liu.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:17:f0a0::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3274F8FC25; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7CB40018; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 529154001B; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on bernadotte.lysator.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 Received: from mx.daemonic.se (h-45-105.a163.priv.bahnhof.se [94.254.45.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EFBA40018; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailscanner.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::6]) by mx.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3W8dVW73kKz8ggx; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mx.daemonic.se ([10.1.0.3]) (using TLS with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA) by mailscanner.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [10.1.0.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTPS id Xp2b9FF1eAGX; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::4]) by mx.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3W8dVV0DXtz8ggv; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tifa.daemonic.se (tifa.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:1::6]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W8dVT71rCz9CvV; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tifa.daemonic.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by tifa.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D4822AC3; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:26:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD332F1.5040700@daemonic.se> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:26:41 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: x11@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, ports-announce@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: [HEADSUP] swtiching GLUT implementation from libGLUT to freeGLUT X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:26:49 -0000 Hi! The FreeBSD x11 team is working on switching GLUT (OpenGL Utility Toolkit) implementation from libGLUT to freeGLUT, and the switch will happen soon. About 100 ports is affected by this and will need to be recompiled, other than that the change should be invisible to users. This change is in line with what other distributions are doing, and is because the libGLUT license does not allow for modifications, improvements or even bug fixes. FreeGLUT is a compatible rewrite under the X-consortium license and under active development. Regards -- Niclas Zeising on behalf of the FreeBSD x11 team From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 17:34:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19751065670; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (cl-327.ede-01.nl.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:7b8:2ff:146::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596D28FC0A; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:ac9c:8782:4659:6790] (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:ac9c:8782:4659:6790]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8544F5C37; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:34:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD38929.6000304@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:34:33 +0200 From: Dimitry Andric Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120529 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <4FD3811E.4050800@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD3811E.4050800@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Current FreeBSD , x11@FreeBSD.org, Ports FreeBSD Subject: Re: graphics/dri: nouveau_array.c:49:16: error: illegal storage class on function, *extract_u = EXTRACT(char, unsigned, 1); X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:34:29 -0000 On 2012-06-09 19:00, O. Hartmann wrote: ... > I try to track down problems on one of our FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64 > boxes and therefore, I try recompiling "xorg". > > One box is constantly failing to compile port graphics/dri with a > obviously well know error, as "googling" reveals ( > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2011-December/016348.html). > > I share /etc/make.conf and /etc/src.conf on those FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT > boxes, they are supposed to have set > WITH_NEW_XORG=yes > WITHOUT_NOUVEAU=yes > > There was a time when also WITH_KMS=yes was set on the box in question, > but I disabled that again (commented out). > > The problem is sticky. I also tried "portmaster -f graphics/dri", > everything is compiled well (CLANG) until it comes to graphics/dri itself. You asked the same question a few weeks ago: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?4F9BC101.8090305 I posted a patch here: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?4F9C2047.8020108 Afterwards, I asked either the libGL maintainers or x11@ if it was OK to commit, but I received no response. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 19:57:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B470E10657AA; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665818FC08; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1SdRn1-0005KS-FW>; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:57:39 +0200 Received: from e178004171.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.4.171] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1SdRn1-0004rN-9n>; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:57:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4FD3AAAA.2000105@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:57:30 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitry Andric References: <4FD3811E.4050800@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FD38929.6000304@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FD38929.6000304@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD5DEA3CF8182AFE5E8FBAFA2" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.4.171 Cc: Current FreeBSD , x11@FreeBSD.org, Ports FreeBSD Subject: Re: graphics/dri: nouveau_array.c:49:16: error: illegal storage class on function, *extract_u = EXTRACT(char, unsigned, 1); X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:57:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD5DEA3CF8182AFE5E8FBAFA2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/09/12 19:34, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 2012-06-09 19:00, O. Hartmann wrote: > ... >> I try to track down problems on one of our FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64 >> boxes and therefore, I try recompiling "xorg". >> >> One box is constantly failing to compile port graphics/dri with a >> obviously well know error, as "googling" reveals ( >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2011-December/016348.ht= ml). >> >> I share /etc/make.conf and /etc/src.conf on those FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT= >> boxes, they are supposed to have set >> WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes >> WITHOUT_NOUVEAU=3Dyes >> >> There was a time when also WITH_KMS=3Dyes was set on the box in questi= on, >> but I disabled that again (commented out). >> >> The problem is sticky. I also tried "portmaster -f graphics/dri", >> everything is compiled well (CLANG) until it comes to graphics/dri its= elf. >=20 > You asked the same question a few weeks ago: >=20 > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?4F9BC101.8090305 >=20 > I posted a patch here: >=20 > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?4F9C2047.8020108 >=20 > Afterwards, I asked either the libGL maintainers or x11@ if it was OK > to commit, but I received no response. O, sorry. I deleted the /usr/ports completely on that specific box. Now, with your patch set installed again, graphics/dri compiles without a flaw. I was wondering why there are not more people/FreeBSD users out there having the very same problem. I'd appreciate your patch getting permanent soon. 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What do you think, is it necessary? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 21:18:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A167F106566C; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (cl-327.ede-01.nl.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:7b8:2ff:146::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538378FC08; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:ac9c:8782:4659:6790] (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:ac9c:8782:4659:6790]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86E425C37; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD3BDB6.6030600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:18:46 +0200 From: Dimitry Andric Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120529 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <4FD3811E.4050800@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FD38929.6000304@FreeBSD.org> <4FD3AAAA.2000105@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD3AAAA.2000105@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: graphics/dri: nouveau_array.c:49:16: error: illegal storage class on function, *extract_u = EXTRACT(char, unsigned, 1); X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:18:43 -0000 On 2012-06-09 21:57, O. Hartmann wrote: ... > Now, with your patch set installed again, graphics/dri compiles without > a flaw. > > I was wondering why there are not more people/FreeBSD users out there > having the very same problem. Most likely because neither WITH_NEW_XORG nor CC=clang are defaults (at least not yet ;). I haven't exactly followed the new xorg import, but I imagine it has been a huge effort to get everything upgraded without breaking too much existing stuff. However, this kind of major update always causes a few edge cases to blow up. That's why miwi sent the call for testing to several mailing lists. So please test, and if possible, send fixes! :) > I'd appreciate your patch getting permanent soon. Since this particular fix isn't yet integrated into the latest MesaLib release, I filed a PR, ports/168902. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 22:36:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBE0106564A; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 22:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7898FC08; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 22:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdU1e-0007XQ-BG; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:20:54 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdU1e-0006dn-4v; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:20:54 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q59MKrgG054766; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:20:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q59MKrgA054765; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:20:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:20:53 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120609222053.GA54647@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120608152036.GA17676@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120608152036.GA17676@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: pkgng x11/xdm list of installed files incomplete? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:36:27 -0000 Mel alerted me to the fact that my original post got mangled (due to my screemap mis-configuration). So I resend it. # þkg infø -xl xðm xðm-¹.¹.¹¹ øwns the følløwing files: /usr/løcãl/bin/xðm /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/ãuthðir /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/chøøser /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/libXðmGreet.lã /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/libXðmGreet.sø /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/þixmãþs/xørg-bw.xþm /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/þixmãþs/xørg.xþm /usr/løcãl/mãn/mãn¹/xðm.¹.gz /usr/løcãl/shãre/X¹¹/ãþþ-ðefãults/©høøser /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Give©ønsøle /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Tãke©ønsøle /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xãccess /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xreset /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xresøurces /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xservers /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xsessiøn /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xsetuþ_0 /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xstãrtuþ /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/Xwilling /usr/løcãl/shãre/exãmþles/xðm/xðm-cønfig /usr/løcãl/shãre/licenses/xðm-¹.¹.¹¹/LÏ©ËNSË /usr/løcãl/shãre/licenses/xðm-¹.¹.¹¹/MÏT /usr/løcãl/shãre/licenses/xðm-¹.¹.¹¹/cãtãløg.mk However, these files are also installed by xdm: # ls -ãl /usr/løcãl/lib/X¹¹/xðm/ tøtãl ¹20 ðrwxr-xr-x 4 røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 . ðrwxr-xr-x ¹¹ røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 9 22:¹¹ .. -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ³25 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Give©ønsøle -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹84 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Tãke©ønsøle -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel ³40¹ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xãccess -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹9³ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xreset -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel 2744 Jun 8 ¹5:³9 Xresøurces -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel 429 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xservers -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 875 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xsessiøn -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 88 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xsetuþ_0 -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹96 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xstãrtuþ -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 29¹ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 Xwilling ðrwx------ ³ røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 ãuthðir -r-xr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 20568 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 chøøser -rwxr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel ¹47¹ Jun 8 ¹5:³5 libXðmGreet.lã -rwxr-xr-x ¹ røøt wheel 62079 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 libXðmGreet.sø ðrwxr-xr-x 2 røøt wheel 5¹2 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 þixmãþs -r--r--r-- ¹ røøt wheel ¹³46 Jun 8 ¹5:³5 xðm-cønfig # most of which are not shown with pkg info -l Maybe something is wrong with plist? Or am I confusing myself? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 23:42:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB6F1065703; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27638FC0C; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q59Nfxsg066042; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:41:59 GMT (envelope-from edwin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from edwin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q59Nfxj8066038; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:41:59 GMT (envelope-from edwin) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:41:59 GMT Message-Id: <201206092341.q59Nfxj8066038@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org From: edwin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/168902: Make graphics/libGL compile with clang (using WITH_NEW_XORG) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:42:00 -0000 Synopsis: Make graphics/libGL compile with clang (using WITH_NEW_XORG) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->freebsd-x11 Responsible-Changed-By: edwin Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jun 9 23:41:59 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer (via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=168902