From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 09:45:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629DD106566B; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292AD8FC1A; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so4006366dad.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X30kgblAGu5x5wYDI4FSAR7ibvjA3frtK3X4Mki0fNU=; b=BmtVFEnaZnPOchcC7AJ3f42gTJNzQJHQCuZv+9Mq7qbxNCGNqJI1PHexIqZRhX5Kl+ wdlzT4X04PcOnlJ+vu/J4eIN/I4FFIqoe+C3PFbCopLm0xMOI86Hz4dxivZXCe+naxQF kxvmonoFTv2tDnUujNx6q67Pzi8ieT+emsCLZxR8X2dildpKdyzjTN4daQzxef8J3OQ2 nYLx+mmC+AdAOhpKq4xZGL8dUVD/vJJfQ/WtmXjQhOUguhzxdfGbHMFESSlh5WiK6OFN 0ChbtoYyPd+rsdBpqCbY+kAj3aXC3D9R1JC9P3bYPvk8wsOD4WwtJklymCopfS/YOdBQ r8QQ== Received: by 10.68.231.10 with SMTP id tc10mr25583179pbc.107.1338198304669; Mon, 28 May 2012 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miwifbsd.dyndns.org ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pq1sm18754971pbb.5.2012.05.28.02.45.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 May 2012 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Martin Wilke Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:44:58 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: python@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zope@FreeBSD.org Subject: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: miwi@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:45:05 -0000 Hi, Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree. So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@ and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports. First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk. Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213 to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely. What do you think about this? Thanks Martin [1] http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff -- +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ Facebook: miwi1 Twitter: miwi_ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 17:14:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954351065742; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward18.mail.yandex.net (forward18.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053DC8FC08; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward18.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8F30717815E7; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:14:45 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338225285; bh=dZtu2G0y8rUyzVqgdLmISIoGnCEYIxvL6OE/JrJNt+U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cKgOmtx8mYfXDBHDNthcSg3Hq2YN0bSIlB1KbMsja99BSKxSqb3Gd85n2P8pfkE4u ecjj4S1lPp8Xkg1IP9rabW4N2+KOdzsLlts3i+BkgfJNQDGubONPLOb3M8FHvreXVH vTWCQDdxoB/MXfuGawKrSrNkgmSgOoUejHiEPPMo= Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5D10F1900212; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:14:45 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [178.76.224.133]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id EiDa03EP-EiDaA8WX; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:14:45 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: miwi@FreeBSD.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: python@FreeBSD.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: zope@FreeBSD.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338225285; bh=dZtu2G0y8rUyzVqgdLmISIoGnCEYIxvL6OE/JrJNt+U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gVoDSypBCbLZsbyegc/JizrnSsM/Rk4BxR46LgW48wss2rwCaHU8L6DGxjsBtmIva rayxdI0/9lULHEmp+t3PpNzsSnq/0F+k9UXsA1PZkLOs8wVG8Qo5gXgDlp/bg4Jia/ 42tuKz1i/pUlBUeCZVfTZR8fE5Fvazvn2rYyTYtQ= Message-ID: <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:14:02 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120504 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miwi@FreeBSD.org References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: python@FreeBSD.org, zope@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:14:47 -0000 Hi, Martin, Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: > Hi, > > Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the > reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of > unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago, > and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree. I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know FreeBSD committer that using old zope. We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) www/zope (estartu@augusta.de) www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version: www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org) I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both EOL. But I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or two. We have such a tradition. > So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@ > and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports. > > First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk. > Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove > www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213 > to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely. > What do you think about this? > > Thanks Martin > > [1] > http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may look like this: +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} == "2.13" +ZOPE_PORTSDIR= ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope213 .else I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 18:51:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7D6106566B; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwhsu.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB3B8FC16; Mon, 28 May 2012 18:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2042003vcb.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TNj9EFDx5KE+1OOVjrW6z8xy+4dC+FNCAH59sMb1YN4=; b=TOt95SBRXomd9/ma4/i4Wf8KbMkkstxHO0n66UmgoENnHUi414qhcXoFlTktHZM7G0 iIFAacqYnLSuVrW6oBXEq1lgmIuM3ReSWm+FMspNlZRQ1ZpMVVxb01gJw88RkhgrpnIF MFqIYE4++0w/Ve4XRO/VqxSubm0CyibtP0lr+DmXNppnvswdnAR7o46/Ab8bpYbuQXGo sSoKgLtSojZ07s7z8gvvqIbcIHKmcP2w4o32aKxlDpCqkG+H3GFiHjnn2Tpla/Eh0sa0 cPeI7Zr/xmHl9ZLfPDQ3DlNC1Et0yi/UYmEzy365zcysb6R4BSqnz2MpsW7JNkt3CdSu UJfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.27.244 with SMTP id w20mr8208472vdg.67.1338231083729; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lwhsu.freebsd@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.7.82 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ll07MWHz6x4rBWyoiREgZNMH3Ao Message-ID: From: Li-Wen Hsu To: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, zope@freebsd.org, python@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:51:25 -0000 Hi, On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wr= ote: > Hi, Martin, > > Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: > >> Hi, >> >> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the >> reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of >> unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago, >> and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree. > > I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know FreeBSD > committer that using old zope. I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about setti= ng DEPRECATED thing. I agree to set it as an official announcement, and we ca= n wait another month, I believe this is the final time of postpone. > We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: > > net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) > www/zope =C2=A0 (estartu@augusta.de) > www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if skreuzer (CC'd) know this plan. www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about net/honeyd? can it work with newer Python? I looked at the project site, it seems move= d to somewhere else. > And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version: > > www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org) I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we? > I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both EOL. B= ut > I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or two. We have such= a > tradition. I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer google-appengine can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new system, and users have python25 apps deployed are not affected. Is there anybody still using develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine? >> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@ >> and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports. >> >> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk. >> Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove >> www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213 >> to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely. >> What do you think about this? >> >> Thanks Martin >> >> [1] >> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff > > > > Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may look like > this: > > +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} =3D=3D "2.13" > +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope213 > =C2=A0.else You are the Zope expert! > I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time. We do, too. Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13? BTW, what's the status of BlueBream? Thanks, Li-Wen --=20 Li-Wen Hsu http://lwhsu.org From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 23:02:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9AD1065673; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4318FC14; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so5306094pbb.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eanUol+8dEU+NC4QD+Mxtl2LZHOjXFZPGpWqcDLOA4s=; b=D96EbDrjnHFEbf/0xyOumiNgWpnxeOVvEUqFjJ8DAXAcoDBr+WWEmc1ovVYX8jT9KM sT6NsByHZJA/OkbFPkLftoE1iZ0gbmSaKdMBB8dhzU6Fxr836e4YqZ3fXkWk+PeR7EKX e8+1X5+2zHu0Kp9KKwhmj+n1WtehJHPp8pGRgQ25kJwWBp2AHnL+z+txISmLq/UYz/Ab Q9ohjNnRwGMcUZs12itIXPaH7UPzxNEIDtkfUW2z8hzN6RCYWIN0MiSeKAKAp/xKXV6B 9in30a0qyN0DNy88bne+N+ByaQA/oJzbNkFc9jaPK8moY47O1FImNiBhFATtvpZdaLgM F8sw== Received: by 10.68.242.162 with SMTP id wr2mr32208037pbc.125.1338246139016; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miwifbsd.dyndns.org ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rv5sm20621826pbc.56.2012.05.28.16.02.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Martin Wilke Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:02:11 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: Li-Wen Hsu Message-ID: <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, python@freebsd.org, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov , zope@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: miwi@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:26 -0000 On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800 Li-Wen Hsu wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov > wrote: > > Hi, Martin, > > > > Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, > >> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there > >> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this > >> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it > >> from the ports tree. > > > > I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know > > FreeBSD committer that using old zope. >=20 > I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about > setting DEPRECATED thing. I agree to set it as an official > announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the > final time of postpone. Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine, the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!! >=20 > > We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: > > > > net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port can live without python 24 > > www/zope =A0 (estartu@augusta.de) > > www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) >=20 > miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if > skreuzer (CC'd) > know this plan. >=20 > www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about > net/honeyd? can it work with newer Python? I looked at the project > site, it seems moved to somewhere else. >=20 > > And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version: > > > > www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org) >=20 > I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we? >=20 > > I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both > > EOL. But I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or > > two. We have such a tradition. >=20 > I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer > google-appengine > can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new > system, and > users have python25 apps deployed are not affected. Is there anybody > still using > develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine? +1 for py25 removal.. since is the same situation.. >=20 > >> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by > >> lwshu@ and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope > >> ports. > >> > >> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the > >> bsd.python.mk. Now I would like to know what you guys think if I > >> were to remove www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to > >> merge www/zope213 to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and > >> www/zope213 completely. What do you think about this? > >> > >> Thanks Martin > >> > >> [1] > >> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff > > > > > > > > Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may > > look like this: > > > > +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} =3D=3D "2.13" > > +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope2= 13 > > =A0.else >=20 > You are the Zope expert! Will fix the patch >=20 > > I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time. >=20 > We do, too. Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13? BTW, > what's the status of > BlueBream? >=20 > Thanks, > Li-Wen >=20 --=20 +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ Facebook: miwi1 Twitter: miwi_ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 13:36:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78446106566B; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwhsu@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw) Received: from FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw (FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.17.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7A88FC0A; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw (Postfix, from userid 1058) id 8369461D62; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:28:48 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:28:48 +0800 From: Li-Wen Hsu To: Martin Wilke Message-ID: <20120529132848.GA11999@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw> References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, python@freebsd.org, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov , zope@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:36:35 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:02:11 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800 > Li-Wen Hsu wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov > > wrote: > > > Hi, Martin, > > > > > > Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, > > >> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there > > >> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this > > >> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it > > >> from the ports tree. > > > > > > I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know > > > FreeBSD committer that using old zope. > > > > I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about > > setting DEPRECATED thing. I agree to set it as an official > > announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the > > final time of postpone. > > Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this > time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine, > the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!! > > > > > > We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: > > > > > > net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) > > I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port can > live without python 24 > > > > www/zope   (estartu@augusta.de) > > > www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) > > > > miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if > > skreuzer (CC'd) > > know this plan. I do not strongly object about removing without setting DEPRECATED, but we will wait for these two maintainer reply or maintainer timeout, right? We just notified them yesterday. When do you plan to commit your patch? -- Li-Wen Hsu http://lwhsu.org From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 13:49:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E92106566C; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184A78FC15; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so5641759dad.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:49:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=PYERKUGM/3ZOh3X5+YG9z8/MnYaWgU3ELXQiVy67UaQ=; b=hmkv4+Cj17e+XigyfCCeNEksvkSZAAYNKvOQeV1OXw1eXNVFhJud59FXCKi1/VaxJk ReVsVtJjMvM/AC1MzG6Yl7WR9u6Rxo9BHc/Ki9HWKLt/3HRBfmIqfN9gvLrzzsmheQau aNM8MwzZe2WWwe0xmLlltCA9S4fbs1luqtmIlSqRM63nR2ggY6Rp3OBWeJ6SjeLAU+lt GjrvtLuJ+sXnaNkG67BfMNY0w33EqPqnQ91XjmlScyOLWvPva30EweoDfntOLRqKbr5n rWTKF4uqtaGjkORrbmPPuT8GrAAlT95pxmkpal4NQs8O9Yf4RkYM6mLuqujy/TsEh5KH 511w== Received: by 10.68.201.195 with SMTP id kc3mr6576336pbc.33.1338299386246; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qr2sm22905070pbb.19.2012.05.29.06.49.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 29 May 2012 06:49:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <20120529132848.GA11999@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw> In-Reply-To: <20120529132848.GA11999@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <78A7CC3E-05AC-4D8A-B619-72BCD1BE5618@googlemail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Martin Wilke Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:49:34 +0800 To: Li-Wen Hsu Cc: "skreuzer@FreeBSD.org" , "zope@freebsd.org" , "python@freebsd.org" , Ruslan Mahmatkhanov , Martin Wilke Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:49:47 -0000 Latest sunday night. Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2012, at 21:28, Li-Wen Hsu wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:02:11 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: >> On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800 >> Li-Wen Hsu wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, Martin, >>>> >>>> Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, >>>>> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there >>>>> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this >>>>> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it >>>>> from the ports tree. >>>> >>>> I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know >>>> FreeBSD committer that using old zope. >>> >>> I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about >>> setting DEPRECATED thing. I agree to set it as an official >>> announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the >>> final time of postpone. >> >> Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this >> time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine, >> the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!! >> >>> >>>> We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: >>>> >>>> net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) >> >> I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port can >> live without python 24 >> >>>> www/zope (estartu@augusta.de) >>>> www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) >>> >>> miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if >>> skreuzer (CC'd) >>> know this plan. > > I do not strongly object about removing without setting DEPRECATED, but > we will wait for these two maintainer reply or maintainer timeout, right? > We just notified them yesterday. > > When do you plan to commit your patch? > > -- > Li-Wen Hsu > http://lwhsu.org From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 13:59:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E3D106564A; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from exit2shell.com (64.147.119.38.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.119.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5008FC12; Tue, 29 May 2012 13:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by exit2shell.com with ESMTP id q4TDul5d026378; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Kreuzer In-Reply-To: <78A7CC3E-05AC-4D8A-B619-72BCD1BE5618@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:56:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <20120529132848.GA11999@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw> <78A7CC3E-05AC-4D8A-B619-72BCD1BE5618@googlemail.com> To: Martin Wilke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: "zope@freebsd.org" , "python@freebsd.org" , Li-Wen Hsu , Ruslan Mahmatkhanov , Martin Wilke Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:59:51 -0000 On May 29, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Martin Wilke wrote: > Latest sunday night. >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 I am just getting back in front of a computer and saw this email. I will = clean up net/honeyd in the next day or two > On May 29, 2012, at 21:28, Li-Wen Hsu wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:02:11 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800 >>> Li-Wen Hsu wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, Martin, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, >>>>>> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there >>>>>> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this >>>>>> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it >>>>>> from the ports tree. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know >>>>> FreeBSD committer that using old zope. >>>>=20 >>>> I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget = about >>>> setting DEPRECATED thing. I agree to set it as an official >>>> announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the >>>> final time of postpone. >>>=20 >>> Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, = this >>> time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine, >>> the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!! >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: >>>>>=20 >>>>> net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) >>>=20 >>> I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port = can >>> live without python 24 >>>=20 >>>>> www/zope (estartu@augusta.de) >>>>> www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) >>>>=20 >>>> miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about = if >>>> skreuzer (CC'd) >>>> know this plan. >>=20 >> I do not strongly object about removing without setting DEPRECATED, = but >> we will wait for these two maintainer reply or maintainer timeout, = right? >> We just notified them yesterday. >>=20 >> When do you plan to commit your patch? >>=20 >> --=20 >> Li-Wen Hsu >> http://lwhsu.org From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 14:09:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE29810657AF; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D2C8FC16; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so3114545ggn.13 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:09:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Oz1w/4k3xRjndB+sHOuJpDATbtIApLqGbjcdlzPFCM=; b=xJD7UPZGs/7EvZPOAAG1WhCJ6oOpPH1aLUELeirlCbZw8/M/RQ7Vi7WmgO3eRp9xEl I81UlKDH4QerUWoG5lpU8foAixBlr4Df05m4AF4uMPRO2yDHm7NL2QFsm2H7glQrAeKC BQy5ef/FDtJW3U0VLkpedCqsQt0miAlWS2vk/bs1ZFscw8SCOuRyotpiXjeLIqzANEru phVxpM2HdD435tH/JvWBluCJTXEs0GJG+h+uodkVgzUdh5ftEhYkiggFWfE1FIW9qctk ck1Q3KxNgKHo/eX1bUSNsU6xBleGPi8416MFNmUUmYpbZRa4lJz/GpCyAlwAPapyXegr 27Wg== Received: by 10.68.239.164 with SMTP id vt4mr37111832pbc.166.1338300551405; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miwifbsd.dyndns.org ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oo6sm15726935pbc.22.2012.05.29.07.09.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 29 May 2012 07:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Martin Wilke Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:09:02 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: Steven Kreuzer Message-ID: <20120529220902.1fe36073.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <20120529132848.GA11999@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw> <78A7CC3E-05AC-4D8A-B619-72BCD1BE5618@googlemail.com> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "zope@freebsd.org" , "python@freebsd.org" , Martin Wilke , Ruslan Mahmatkhanov , Li-Wen Hsu Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: miwi@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:09:13 -0000 On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:56:46 -0400 Steven Kreuzer wrote: > I am just getting back in front of a computer and saw this email. I > will clean up net/honeyd in the next day or two Great thank you, please follow up when you done. - Martin -- +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ Facebook: miwi1 Twitter: miwi_ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 14:26:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CECF106564A; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8A48FC08; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (smtp12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.191]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 56C9CE82F18; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:26:23 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338301583; bh=IcWZcOsOZFlOxj1AJ32wkvTpEUG42hJKdELDDQozAqw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aBc1jJqkYyfG6L8KucmzryCOpl0Z9ZCG8NNxUSsP5bPSFZGi0zJAFFC34evmNlinR m+6yJVvJbHWLuB+Z2fvoZf1hcN9RQ0N+F7DF6qosodJ+hyqPXrQwAdTiTjLWSkpyRb BjYs9xCf0OA82XqtoUFlo+r/m0MvUzwqqUi/XjQI= Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 04ED216A04F3; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:26:22 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [213.27.65.65]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id QMUCHTKa-QMUCOT2I; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:26:22 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: lwhsu@FreeBSD.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: miwi@freebsd.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: python@freebsd.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: zope@freebsd.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338301582; bh=IcWZcOsOZFlOxj1AJ32wkvTpEUG42hJKdELDDQozAqw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eUDwkUXn7blBIghQhtarz0wKBrnHGj03Jxrne8kZfIcVPlmmBrToAva6+9y6CKZmN jRB3k0qUEBoB6+2axiHpPYKhdF/f9D4eLtmuxok2Hdr5waZgjKPllc4vegI1cIj8fu QSnrS83c01Zl44etT8RtutZmyPxpgQQV2TXcHjy8= Message-ID: <4FC4DC66.8030604@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:25:42 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120504 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Li-Wen Hsu References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, zope@freebsd.org, python@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:26:25 -0000 Hi Li-Wen, Li-Wen Hsu wrote on 28.05.2012 22:51: > www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about net/honeyd? > can it work with newer Python? I looked at the project site, it seems moved to > somewhere else. No, I can't recall the details, but net/honeyd isn't working with python > 2.4. I had investigate this some time ago. And no new versions is available. >> And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version: >> >> www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org) > > I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we? I'd update www/google-appengine and drop 2.5 altogether with 2.4. It's simple plan :). But it more correct to let this port's expire first. >> I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time. > > We do, too. Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13? BTW, > what's the status of > BlueBream? > > Thanks, > Li-Wen Not yet. Let the dust settle after www/zope removal. I think that people are generally aware where 2.13 is resides. BB 1.0 is available since January 2011, but I'm not using it and don't have plans to port it atm. There will be Plone 4.2 available soon, and it will go right ahead to www/plone, since it backward-compatible with 4.1. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 14:38:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156281065673; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward13.mail.yandex.net (forward13.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752C68FC19; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D91CF141C9F; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:38:14 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338302295; bh=LeN3iDers063uBfhZOWFC4HR63waJK+a8O1dRLRtOkQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IotVdHdXhz5cFeekiZqiFzAR/jQ4FfvqZ9BOpvsbhM/RnuN28ArAKKux9i56gm4lS M2osQaxtzRpb4T8QyKXtjLKG40/x9Izi9n0fFGl0XsT9rjmR+VoIxrBj/jrHoZNEhU gdBmNCVv4HQfOUpwPdjySY9MUfzd5Zfq0lprLFUs= Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8704A7E0581; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:38:14 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [213.27.65.65]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id cD6GOiCe-cE6umKsR; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:38:14 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: miwi@FreeBSD.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: lwhsu@FreeBSD.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: python@freebsd.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: zope@freebsd.org X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1338302294; bh=LeN3iDers063uBfhZOWFC4HR63waJK+a8O1dRLRtOkQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DAvRD2do4Qd63tPc05S2RS18oHtEL+e5lA+W3z+0Ny0PaRfw4cxnCtlfeC6NzSxuA hd0BE3YXrvAEYSGbfN5OcDNN97Mwk0l4dLXlSoir1WX0Jf0g3sNWw0GdVT0vRPf8PL +1jmEpNpx7IM6yHceF9AJ0byiK2vA/vBpztL2850= Message-ID: <4FC4DF2D.8040807@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:37:33 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120504 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miwi@FreeBSD.org References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, zope@freebsd.org, Li-Wen Hsu , python@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:38:17 -0000 Hi Martin, Martin Wilke wrote on 29.05.2012 03:02: > Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this > time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine, > the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!! As I said already, I have no objections and actually all I did in past it's a dropping python24/25 support in ports :). Expiring before deleting it's a common practice. And to me it's not a technical aspect, but our users awareness and loyalty aspect. > +1 for py25 removal.. since is the same situation.. So let's get them out both in a row. I think that holding 25 is more pointless, than ever holding 24. > Will fix the patch Ok, thank you. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 05:50:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1B41065672; Thu, 31 May 2012 05:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@augusta.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (inga.augusta.de [77.90.142.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70738FC08; Thu, 31 May 2012 05:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by inga.augusta.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4V5mkCp010751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 May 2012 07:48:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu@augusta.de) Message-ID: <4FC706C2.7030203@augusta.de> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 07:50:58 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miwi@freebsd.org, python@freebsd.org, zope@freebsd.org References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (inga.augusta.de [77.90.142.2]); Thu, 31 May 2012 07:48:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 05:50:59 -0000 Am 28.05.2012 11:44, schrieb Martin Wilke: > First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk. > Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove > www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213 > to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely. > What do you think about this? I'm still not happy about the whole removal because i still use zope211 and python2.4 in production envoriment. And migration to 2.13 isn't trivial. Please don't rename www/zope213 in www/zope this will break things for people like me wo have still some rather old instances of Zope 2.7. Mabye you can rename it to zope2 as it is the last release in the zope2 branche. The next zope2 release will be named zope4.0 (was zope2.14 before). I think you should just leave it with www/zope213. Regards Estartu -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | http://www.augusta.de/~estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | JabberID: estartu@augusta.de | on request Germany | |