From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 1 08:27:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 246FB493 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 08:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B08C31356 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 08:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a1so15407424wgh.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:27:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4WNbaI/Otuksd/LOlbK0O4Bmwvc5N/6uqRuNirzRLts=; b=oi9ck+w1sMzQsJIawluMaXyykjPq9otIEH+PrN9jb7DW7JCb1jP0wyq5IRrpxzL2NC Gf65gXf9AzYrD3sTFTP55hwneWVwLLDShO0yaUCwXfCnGP3NTDqtPdzY/QvaJUhUtjFZ JNgIgHSxVKZXkaHuRK+MLuWGSex1Go5XGzYjxunbQQF29Z77oeiIlNFgUZ4oRm5LF8yR m6MPQELoCUFfFA6EQv1fyQTdIIXumvKpBZ01quSO8pgx2l0O1aAZrTC2tD+CUsnOMy/a ULZtPKYGR5kjd3ZHgOvZyTnlv53ps8fshgIxx6q5T9nKKknLQ73ZIJDyS71NhtTX8nNI QZaw== X-Received: by 10.180.13.139 with SMTP id h11mr50663926wic.3.1388564826642; Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:27:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.6 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 00:26:26 -0800 (PST) From: Nicholas McKenzie Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 00:26:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: hey great To: java@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 08:27:09 -0000 thanks for marking everything forbidden, but still updating the ports tree, and just saying "nasty bug" with no info, even in UPDATING or on Java's section for updates on the FreeBSD site : http://www.freebsd.org/java/dists/16.html -- Nicholas S. McKenzie NicholasSMcKenzie@gmail.com +1.530.355.6171 From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 2 15:20:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5C91F0C for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC2D1227 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:20:46 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=H7HinYoi c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 a=skEXAHZvgRoA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=FEZXX7_iUjcA:10 a=ax99GSdsdClMaWw5xW8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=TEf6SaQX8PkA:10 a=HK_dO42blXYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:45419] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 52/C0-18319-23385C25; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:18:10 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:18:09 -0500 To: Robert Huff Subject: open jdk7 marked "FORBIDDEN" In-Reply-To: <201401021422.s02EMiTe002567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <201401021422.s02EMiTe002567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: java@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:20:47 -0000 Hello: When attempting to re-compile, I get: > ===>>> This port is marked FORBIDDEN > ===>>> Triggering a nasty FreeBSD bug 1) Is this still true? 2) If so, where do I go to find out what's going on and whether there's a workaround? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 2 16:01:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00C9CA2F for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B417816BC for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VykCT-0007wj-1R for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:28:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open jdk7 marked "FORBIDDEN" References: <201401021422.s02EMiTe002567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Win32) X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 398f5522cb258ce43cb679602f8cfe8b62a256d1 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Scan-Signature: dfea3049d3b923820beb462d65569822 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:01:35 -0000 On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:18:09 +0100, Robert Huff wrote: > > Hello: > When attempting to re-compile, I get: > >> ===>>> This port is marked FORBIDDEN >> ===>>> Triggering a nasty FreeBSD bug > > 1) Is this still true? > 2) If so, where do I go to find out what's going on and whether > there's a workaround? > > Respectfully, The FreeBSD 10-RC4 changes tell: 'Changes between -RC3 and -RC4 include: o Tighten default restrictions for ntpd(8) server. o Fix kernel crash discovered with recent Java port update.' So there is the fix. I don't know how this applies to other FreeBSD versions. I guess it is this commit: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/svnews/index.py?r=260122 Ronald. > > > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 2 16:06:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 259C0AC3 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABCC316E9 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s02G6cKV057216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:06:44 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s02G6cKV057216 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s02G6cKV057216; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <52C58E85.8030501@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:06:29 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open jdk7 marked "FORBIDDEN" References: <201401021422.s02EMiTe002567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xNg056rChd1QO9iib2k8qKuqvM5pEQeMG" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:06:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --xNg056rChd1QO9iib2k8qKuqvM5pEQeMG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/02/14 15:18, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Hello: > When attempting to re-compile, I get: >=20 >> =3D=3D=3D>>> This port is marked FORBIDDEN >> =3D=3D=3D>>> Triggering a nasty FreeBSD bug >=20 > 1) Is this still true? > 2) If so, where do I go to find out what's going on and whether > there's a workaround? Yes, it is still true. The 'nasty FreeBSD bug' is that running the latest OpenJDK 6 or 7 will cause pretty much all version of FreeBSD back to 8.0 to instantly reboot. This is actually a FreeBSD kernel bug. Watch the freebsd-announce@... list -- there will be at least an Errata notice for all supported releases. Cheers, Matthew --xNg056rChd1QO9iib2k8qKuqvM5pEQeMG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSxY6LXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnnKEP/2JT+hdc7eRmocB4Ftg+kjWt PEE0YGFAKD9ctfBPgtm7q32+7fjsSAn/GPzOT7OftTuGbZpWvf5UAsVR981nVkFE IFB9yJZMDsezVyGs3MMxsqN/DeMTc+YLidlv2wNobUwX9IFWrTvfK0j/vQ5K0G4j QcogfJ0iImF8wK5eQp1b33nshsrmDThz8GdPyB1azL47rWe9mjZqvRwe0NNCezBU svsQ55YOQXNyji+QhKylQPnQT/Dty974kdAOoh9XNbNjPh/3kQ5FmCGT/jA2J7BY epivvNPx31l+IVPjG5IjxOzaGTw2etVyQmN5jhRkee1vCkPVlvvE/uYmHG6Hcbdm 1P9p7IifmwyW6AqhOG8mGglXOyzgIDRPczcEQuWj4reHVpijod348jh74OrM7Sre C53hQaxAhhoxEbDxp0dpMXYKcm8kzkRT32DxqXeYeJf235s3Z3A4DKYB+9/2qXzT hS5mVSkPdt060Oa8WlB9GCsTdf1jhe80nTuuzlBar5tpbuXGwEcwScsLhzGZKRQR b9eD+HZCldK8YJpw/+g+pKyGZ6QxQACWsl7HJz4Xs5sqJaFdMBZK9fSaGlLfHvEV 1LJ1SuY8URon22UUDDTA+uHkccfA364rE1XY/pkGJmJ6bfX0QB1XU8errUM4uLsl O3CJ+Pcc3WSzsadbm+Wa =nYKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xNg056rChd1QO9iib2k8qKuqvM5pEQeMG-- From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 3 17:25:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76BF0D95 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x22d.google.com (mail-ve0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36ED810CF for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id oz11so8026727veb.18 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fRIlwDfh+SFuZNkFEYU9P8P4bWYkb5ksgoFRIyjyCaM=; b=FazbUTGu9YtrqkLfMb3No5eF4dLqx22BIR3DxkdNnMAejzKz1N+N/d0XMStlob9ZzW mzN/V04Ri/UHvRbaG163u3qrSsAk2HRMCg+halkK0QHH0y8adivK4z0iDUBM8RWrWNgO XQi0JwOPY2CNPMshNf0aRusWIZRh8MQdrmHQrgvmmZrt4DDIbR359sXcs9mTuVQuMzBs 4PeL4dNfyK7JkYEeUvWzCEZ2lb8iYO/f403S7JDOjNkSCFVY+bhpPJJdPq267Y6jq10+ FCtIMxw80znOCp1GaK9ah4PmnhTqPifcc5dniG6Pi5tKUaIrChCvgQ5kmLU7Aj01bSX4 I49g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.255.233 with SMTP id at9mr20304353ved.20.1388769957345; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.242.43 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: ports/182743 - eclipse-devel on 10 From: John Schneider To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:25:58 -0000 Can the patch submitted in this PR be committed to ports? It's necessary to build eclipse-devel on FreeBSD 10, as GCC is not included in default base. Thanks, John From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 4 01:23:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 430C2238 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 01:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2519D1346 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 01:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VzFxr-00067s-0R for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:23:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:23:47 -0800 (PST) From: ari To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1388798626990-5873612.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <52C58E85.8030501@freebsd.org> References: <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <52C58E85.8030501@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: open jdk7 marked "FORBIDDEN" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 01:23:54 -0000 > The 'nasty FreeBSD bug' is that running the latest OpenJDK 6 or 7 will > cause pretty much all version of FreeBSD back to 8.0 to instantly > reboot. This is actually a FreeBSD kernel bug. > Watch the freebsd-announce@... list -- there will be at least an Errata > notice for all supported releases. I understand the desire to protect people from bad effects, but this lockout of every Java port (since everything pretty much depends on openjdk) is quite extreme. Can we please have some more information about: * the nature of the bug * how far back do we have to revert openjdk7 to avoid the problem I've got a huge reliance on Java on production servers and this makes me very nervous. I also had planned an upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0 to 9.2 on a server today and this can't go ahead since I cannot install an updated openjdk. If this is an obscure bug which is in all versions of the openjdk against all versions of freebsd, could someone please revert the FORBIDDEN flag on these ports, since its only effect is to: * make users believe that FreeBSD is not a good platform for Java * stop users from upgrading from any previous versions of Java, or otherwise update systems If this is a serious problem only in the latest version of Java (eg. 1.7.0_45) then can we revert the port to a known working version? At any rate, more information would be great since I've already got 1.7.0_45 in production on a couple of machines and I need to know what to look out for. Thanks Ari -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/open-jdk7-marked-FORBIDDEN-tp5873171p5873612.html Sent from the freebsd-java mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 4 10:28:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AFD835D for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8D6B158A for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s04ASXJS011310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:28:33 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s04ASXJS011310 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s04ASXJS011310; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <52C7E24A.6010902@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:28:26 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open jdk7 marked "FORBIDDEN" References: <21189.33585.949509.38005@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <52C58E85.8030501@freebsd.org> <1388798626990-5873612.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1388798626990-5873612.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BJvB76U5KeRQX1WRs5pg0OBD8iGVsgSht" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DCC_CHECK autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:28:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BJvB76U5KeRQX1WRs5pg0OBD8iGVsgSht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/01/2014 01:23, ari wrote: >> The 'nasty FreeBSD bug' is that running the latest OpenJDK 6 or 7 will= >> cause pretty much all version of FreeBSD back to 8.0 to instantly >> reboot. This is actually a FreeBSD kernel bug. >=20 >> Watch the freebsd-announce@... list -- there will be at least an Errat= a >> notice for all supported releases. >=20 >=20 > I understand the desire to protect people from bad effects, but this lo= ckout > of every Java port (since everything pretty much depends on openjdk) is= > quite extreme. Can we please have some more information about: >=20 > * the nature of the bug > * how far back do we have to revert openjdk7 to avoid the problem >=20 > I've got a huge reliance on Java on production servers and this makes m= e > very nervous. I also had planned an upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0 to 9.2 on = a > server today and this can't go ahead since I cannot install an updated > openjdk. >=20 > If this is an obscure bug which is in all versions of the openjdk again= st > all versions of freebsd, could someone please revert the FORBIDDEN flag= on > these ports, since its only effect is to: >=20 > * make users believe that FreeBSD is not a good platform for Java > * stop users from upgrading from any previous versions of Java, or othe= rwise > update systems >=20 > If this is a serious problem only in the latest version of Java (eg. > 1.7.0_45) then can we revert the port to a known working version? >=20 >=20 > At any rate, more information would be great since I've already got 1.7= =2E0_45 > in production on a couple of machines and I need to know what to look o= ut > for. Yes, certainly. The important point here is that the bug is in certain FreeBSD versions, not in Java. If you've got a java package that runs without causing the system to panic then there's no reason not to carry on using it. The symptoms of the bug are that the OS will panic whenever one of the latest versions of OpenJDK is run on a susceptible version of the OS. If your machine can /build/ the latest OpenJDK without panicing (which involves extensive use of Java to compile itself) then you're OK to deploy that version to run your web applications or whatever (subject to the usual sorts of testing you'ld do around updating any core component of the business that provides your paychecks, of course). OpenJDK 7.45.18 or 7.45.18_1 would trigger the bug in susceptible FreeBSD systems. 7.25.15_2 or earlier should be safe. FreeBSD 11-CURRENT (r259951), 10-STABLE (r260081), 10.0-RELEASE-rc4 (r260122) and 9-STABLE (r260082) have been patched. Neither 8-STABLE nor any of the supported 9.x- or 8.x-RELEASE branches have been patched yet. As I said, the -RELEASE branches would be listed in an errata notice or security advisory when a patch was applied. Disclaimer: this is just based on what I have been able to gather from public mailing lists, my own experiences trying to build package sets including OpenJDK and by spelunking through the SVN repository via http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/ It does not represent the official position of the FreeBSD project. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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If even trying to build it crashes the system then I can see why it was marked as forbidden, although it must be slightly more rare if it took several weeks to detect this bug in the 1.7.0_45 port upgraded on 8 Dec. Anyhow, it would be extremely useful if someone with inside knowledge of this bug could confirm the intersection of jdk/os versions which trigger the bug. I've been building openjdk 1.7 on a FreeBSD 9.2 box (in poudriere) without problem right up until it was marked as forbidden; so I'm still worried that we might be vulnerable on the couple of servers already running 1.7.0_45. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/open-jdk7-marked-FORBIDDEN-tp5873171p5873736.html Sent from the freebsd-java mailing list archive at Nabble.com.