From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 05:02:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 360121AC; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 05:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 896EC1798; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 05:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ty20so4589055lab.11 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 22:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WzsLZOYCFHgDgO5quxDfR61skKEIl/TaBEgPQ5Lx5Rc=; b=vfgVvzZcsQhYnKtSvr5wp7+HCjOUZl3LlDuay9ZlWulyFtvlAiWPYKBHM6VUGXHyv9 Guo+cHrzprWPHJrbwOuXUf7WdAn7D5XuosXZ07SLTvJ64rilsuFHp1zzMXQhqbJDuGwg TBRWaoYogH4t6hqgchtpCBUZENaWkesJRbJTZylxVSw9CWYlSIiH0XyIWFaYloA72XFc 9/eNB3wjxtdV0sSmxSu0xj07hj/mV+MH8ecM/1xxHiCHLw3F9vD/+LJiK6I5BF7QusmH n7O7/3b7rRISQDN7/6mlZEb/KZ9T5XnaypcxSR0bzq0aWX13953rIzl6RoXC9UX0+hdW OngQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.173.136 with SMTP id bk8mr179934lbc.88.1409461368296; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 22:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.197.107 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 22:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 22:02:48 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fWQQ6YUeAgLsrJGjzu1finOPqxQ Message-ID: Subject: pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files into the same place). From: Craig Rodrigues To: ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 05:02:51 -0000 Hi, I did a fresh install of 10-STABLE on a new system. I set up the new xorg repository as outlined here: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2014-July/001570.html When I tried to install a bunch of packages, I got this conflict: pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/_pkg.bash The full log of what I typed is here: https://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/pkg-1.3.7-pkg-1.40.conflict.txt What is the best way to solve this? In future, how do we deal with the case where someone sets up multiple package repositories, but one repo has a dependency on a different version of pkg? -- Craig From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 08:11:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 079D0267 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 08:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 852C51832 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 08:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7V8Ap9W093729 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:10:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7V8Ap9W093729 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1409472652; bh=uXnh8OG4AHAwSu++oq+MxfwUNTcNlqaQiBqL6gaZcu8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2031=20Aug=202014=2009:10:38=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-pkg@fr eebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20pkg-static:=20pkg-1.4.0.p.a11=20conflic ts=20with=20pkg-1.3.7=20(installs=0D=0A=20files=20into=20the=20sam e=20place).|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=Iq+/bAnvS5Y7E34rC8DAU9ilKlas7bxnHOSatGvki1CHCgvPrQczfDlOw0BsMNsWo zeJTNacLkWMUyPui0BQeXxYombxvlU9oYAEDZ8RoSgK7KOf3B1AmnPi75a9knvaHV8 GIqUGFvqn4R8gF7M4WgMVShg9mN4hi+ZXLqn0lUw= Message-ID: <5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:10:38 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files into the same place). References: In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KHRvvitlKikCBFlV8rKTh4NH3Qj1u6ldK" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 08:11:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KHRvvitlKikCBFlV8rKTh4NH3Qj1u6ldK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31/08/2014 06:02, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > I did a fresh install of 10-STABLE on a new system. >=20 > I set up the new xorg repository as outlined here: >=20 > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2014-July/001570.h= tml >=20 > When I tried to install a bunch of packages, > I got this conflict: >=20 > pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files > into the same place). > Problematic file: /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/_pkg.bash >=20 > The full log of what I typed is here: > https://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/pkg-1.3.7-pkg-1.40.conflict.txt >=20 > What is the best way to solve this? >=20 > In future, how do we deal with the case where someone sets up > multiple package repositories, but one repo has a dependency > on a different version of pkg? Presumably pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 is from the pkg-devel port? Your output shows no sign of the pkg bootstrapping process, so pkg-devel must have already been installed. Yet in your list of packages to install you specifically include 'pkg' As far as I know, the only package in the ports tree that has a specific run-time dependency (ie. the only sort of dependency pkg(8) cares about when handling binary packages) on pkg itself is net-snmp[*], but you aren't installing that, so you could use either pkg or pkg-devel quite happily. Your transcript also shows pkg-1.3.7 being upgraded, and then later deleted. That's a known bug -- https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/980 -- but this is the first report of pkg doing that to itself. In order to sort out your specific case, try this: - first, ensure that you have the version of pkg installed that you want. For the standard release version: # pkg install pkg - then delete pkg from your list of stuff to install. Practically speaking when installing a set of packages like this, you can assume that pkg is already installed. If it isn't then the /usr/sbin/pkg bootstrapping process will achieve the same effect as soon as you try and install anything. - try again to install your list of packages. Judging by the output you showed, most of them were in fact installed then, but it looks like there are 60-odd stragglers to deal with. Cheers, Matthew [*] Run time dependencies on pkg(8) should as a rule, be avoided without very good reason. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --KHRvvitlKikCBFlV8rKTh4NH3Qj1u6ldK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUAtiLXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATr2wQAJUwm8H/aIFmkuPfrBuSezPm EJkoy1DpaZGp0/o/bVQfbvL5knYzIoiMLSM3nAwpy9Bi7i04ri3CChIEGPqbPwq7 qjY0dwTFUgBnVIH2tkSukzTxV4xyMqHzrYbD61MnEeu12qo170OSoEe04poVEakk T0MjeAeOx6Q6vC3g5K9Z5VX6vfrgSxINME/R5qwnCHfRAz05DcZjkD5qjhmmO1bU 9WUOsMdYIgbcid2XTYnanvvC60wKcYg3ouTX/RNWe8s7+HDMtEwBs+DeEEIPWa0f Zie1cy6Lu+GPtnWOWX+HFdRDsy3b+BZ6qMnozSuUcVVIYmdQaGEDppBKEqmm6dy9 qnmUXRsBKMwHgz/2Lbs9k8ZvEBDXukT/Qup8uDaPA8w6BX8dP/4d7DInlFtZJwMU O4OG1j+ROlEgXvmYnlkk2Aq6lOtfJlxluPHIfBiusVSF1it+KD7WXZTnNKsGRmpf Aepr0EY0kYDFSXhbYZ3XmZqnLMkrRV3qBHWg5lNGH/1VeioLACnbEeSLu+zXAcPR NawBWWHofHeCvruYlixVfD2ar5yF7aWDsJwWxgK2yYv4XrR71hTlj4XM42Rgy8hi bbZm1UP/F/Lf5H4hJpXfvFBk4vUbO459niPNQnMT/1MXQJlkk3dYh/Ba5T1KXUVa 62LjxFpwpu63RZlr3Y/M =hvdo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KHRvvitlKikCBFlV8rKTh4NH3Qj1u6ldK-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:20:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD6864E2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 951E51D71 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7V9KiGR054434 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:20:44 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 193195] lang/ruby21 deleted lang/ruby19 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:20:44 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: marino@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ruby@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_status cc assigned_to Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:20:44 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=193195 John Marino changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Triage |Open CC| |pkg@FreeBSD.org Assignee|freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD. |ruby@FreeBSD.org |org | --- Comment #1 from John Marino --- assign to ruby@, cc pkg@ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 10:37:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 814768A2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 10:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E211592 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 10:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VAbMaa029389 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 10:37:22 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 182347] ports-mgmt/pkg: install target does nothing for pkgng + staging + NO_PKG_REGISTER case Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 10:37:22 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: needs-staging X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: marino@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: In Discussion X-Bugzilla-Priority: Normal X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 10:37:22 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182347 John Marino changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marino@FreeBSD.org --- Comment #2 from John Marino --- If this PR is no longer valid, it would be nice to get it closed. It shows in a search for unstaged ports. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 12:50:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28EC84FA for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FDEB124D for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VCo16e081473 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:50:01 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 182347] ports-mgmt/pkg: install target does nothing for pkgng + staging + NO_PKG_REGISTER case Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:50:02 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: needs-staging X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: amdmi3@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: In Discussion X-Bugzilla-Priority: Normal X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:50:02 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182347 --- Comment #3 from Dmitry Marakasov --- The PR is valid. Ports are still not installed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:16:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 902F5422 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DED81BF3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VEGLV7047658 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:16:21 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 193195] lang/ruby21 deleted lang/ruby19 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:16:21 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: swills@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: In Discussion X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ruby@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_status cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:16:21 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=193195 Steve Wills changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Open |In Discussion CC| |swills@FreeBSD.org --- Comment #2 from Steve Wills --- (In reply to gja822 from comment #0) > uname: FreeBSD --- 9.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #5 r270286M amd64 > > I'm updgrading ports and I had these lines in pkg version output: > ruby-1.9.3.547,1 < needs updating (index has > 1.9.3.547_1,1) > ruby21-2.1.2,1 < needs updating (index has 2.1.2_1,1) > > Trying to upgrade the latter got "install error". Would need more detail on the exact error message. > Then I manually typed from > lang/ruby21 "make deinstall", I saw that not ruby21, but ruby19 was > deinstalling! > I have DEFAULT_VERSIONS ruby=2.1 in make.conf. Seeing "ruby-1.9.3.547,1" instead of "ruby19-1.9.3.547,1" tells me that ruby 1.9 *was* your default ruby when you installed it. Having DEFAULT_VERSIONS=ruby=2.1 then running "make deinstall" in lang/ruby21, which was currently set to default, tries to uninstall your default ruby, which in this case was 1.9. So this actually isn't surprising and I'm not sure it's incorrect. > Now I can't deinstall ruby21 ("which is in conflict with ruby-2.1"). Would need to see the detailed error message on this. > If I > try to "pkg delete ruby21-2.1.2,1" I'll have to delete a huge bunch of > dependant packages, that is not I want, unless I could easily reinstall them. This is just a side effect of having changed your default ruby. If we had ever had it so that the default ruby was only used at build time and all packages had the version suffix (19,20,21), you may not have this problem. But currently, changing default ruby version doesn't work this way. > Something is definitely wrong. I'm not so sure. I think this is just related to changing your default ruby version. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 16:19:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7893F08 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF22C1917 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VGJQXt079190 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:19:26 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 193195] lang/ruby21 deleted lang/ruby19 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:19:26 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: gja822@narod.ru X-Bugzilla-Status: In Discussion X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ruby@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:19:26 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=193195 --- Comment #3 from gja822@narod.ru --- Thanks for reply. But I've followed all instructions in ports/UPDATING from 20130527 and later (and much earlier), so I hadn't expected such behaviour. I had 1.9 as default for a long time, till AFAIR 20130527 (when I made ruby=2.1 in make.conf instead of DEFAULT_RUBY_VER=1.9 or smth similar). After that I had no such problems. (But, I suppose, some other port(s) ignored that line in make.conf and reinstalled ruby-1.9). Well, from lang/ruby21 directory first time I made deinstall (which deleted previously upgraded ruby-1.9 version) and afterwards I couldn't make install ("ruby-2.1 and ruby21-2.1 conflict" since installing in the same place). O.K., may be it's not wrong, but some recommendations on changing default versions or something like that would be useful. I've finally pkg delete'd wrong "ruby21" version with dependants and reinstalled all afterwards manually, so I cannot reproduce any more. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 16:32:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22D14273 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F4221AA1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id hz20so4970458lab.31 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wdyxkc1nQNXnXxtgTdEl/nQuiL2N/FKq2pT42mg95VM=; b=ly0B2hj9xIGERqeB8Dlq4A/zuWC8lw/gsp9yWrPkRmxmMKswhwsRWCOj1A7c7MW2qc kKYe4BV58unbQrgk7RZOBgl+FiWn5/0eIkzLyPawbAK4EeaYbBOZp95QFHAlduBecSX+ G/HcNRx2NxB8fl/XxgqzQ7hGBQMRsuc77MZHuGEAUOcnG9+nsiuMuf/jIGbh6Mv9c0mp pi1Mx0Of3UBSDQdpR1tEOxa4ybU8TuwSr+3FxYRYBzuf8iSaZUL2r2/vEd3mF0zAVdZu Q5zTkEbe9jzrDHk4uhx/NbXsCnDkyHI0VVUW0b2DGgioEd83nO3QOctjBEkUh5r6YZgL GEjA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.169.35 with SMTP id ab3mr22013752lbc.41.1409502736070; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.197.107 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:32:16 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cHxnZ4BxDgHedZv68hqGQkOZu1w Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files into the same place). From: Craig Rodrigues To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:32:19 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 31/08/2014 06:02, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > Presumably pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 is from the pkg-devel port? Your output > shows no sign of the pkg bootstrapping process, so pkg-devel must have > already been installed. Yet in your list of packages to install you > specifically include 'pkg' The first time I ran the command, I did not capture the logs. Before running the command, I did not have pkg installed at all. When I ran the command, it bootstrapped and installed pkg-1.3.7, then it installed all the packages, then tried to install pkg-1.4.0.p.all. The second time I ran the command, I did try to capture logs, which I posted. I ran the command differently at this point. Before running the command, I deleted all packages. Then I installed pkg-devel. Then I ran the command. It seemed to install a bunch of packages, and then install pkg-1.3.7. The third time I ran the command, I did not capture the log. I repeated the steps in the second time, using pkg-1.4.0 installed. However, this time I removed 'pkg' from the list of explicitly specified packages. I ran into the same problem where it tried to install pkg-1.3.7. > > As far as I know, the only package in the ports tree that has a specific > run-time dependency (ie. the only sort of dependency pkg(8) cares about > when handling binary packages) on pkg itself is net-snmp[*], but you > aren't installing that, so you could use either pkg or pkg-devel quite > happily. # pkg info -r pkg pkg-1.3.7: pcbsd-utils-1394538598 Is this enough to cause the problem? -- Craig From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 16:43:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83500AA4; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 249681BB4; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VGhEVo008477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:43:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7VGhEVo008477 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1409503396; bh=IYmC7FegcUkYkrH8sVsgUwrqoyIw1uCCYQbD3UYqjqs=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2031=20Aug=202014=2017:43:04=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20Craig=20Rodrig ues=20|CC:=20freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org|Subject: =20Re:=20pkg-static:=20pkg-1.4.0.p.a11=20conflicts=20with=20pkg-1. 3.7=20(installs=0D=0A=20files=20into=20the=20same=20place).|Refere nces:=20=09<5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=YDqsEzWFn2u239TSGHk2JdDkZR18xg8koVQf4zdod/Mce+Xj3tJlpUx2ZQ81tnIc7 VVzEvmRu6EGF0nf7AWZJkM/oxsP9yMwgZHPNoLm6B43eHhE8pVzyWjKsHZe0gRwV0q U+o4rVVlqWI18W0Cw+YKyyP1JrC9KBg24okbWU5I= Message-ID: <54035098.4000505@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:43:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files into the same place). References: <5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="397Hr5F3E5E1BraLBHQLRqMXrRRfkCowN" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:43:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --397Hr5F3E5E1BraLBHQLRqMXrRRfkCowN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31/08/2014 17:32, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >> As far as I know, the only package in the ports tree that has a specif= ic >> > run-time dependency (ie. the only sort of dependency pkg(8) cares ab= out >> > when handling binary packages) on pkg itself is net-snmp[*], but you= >> > aren't installing that, so you could use either pkg or pkg-devel qui= te >> > happily. > # pkg info -r pkg > pkg-1.3.7: > pcbsd-utils-1394538598 >=20 > Is this enough to cause the problem? Yeah -- that's enough to cause pkg-devel to be replaced by pkg. Guess that's another port with a run-time dependency on pkg. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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From: Craig Rodrigues To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:14:09 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> # pkg info -r pkg >> pkg-1.3.7: >> pcbsd-utils-1394538598 >> >> Is this enough to cause the problem? > > Yeah -- that's enough to cause pkg-devel to be replaced by pkg. Guess > that's another port with a run-time dependency on pkg. > Thanks for the clarifications. I have a few questions. (1) Is it wrong for a port to explicitly specify a dependency on pkg? Should pcbsd-utils port be fixed? (2) How did I get a dependency on pkg-1.4.0? Does the FreeBSD_new_xorg repository depend on pkg-1.4.0 or pkg-devel? -- Craig From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 17:35:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED4E2121; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78CE511CA; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VHZJM3009816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:35:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7VHZJM3009816 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1409506520; bh=r0euGRvk8N2sWbm1VjfjBDtauR9sx8tYmmNgedhJgpw=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2031=20Aug=202014=2018:35:09=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20Craig=20Rodrig ues=20|CC:=20freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org|Subject: =20Re:=20pkg-static:=20pkg-1.4.0.p.a11=20conflicts=20with=20pkg-1. 3.7=20(installs=0D=0A=20files=20into=20the=20same=20place).|Refere nces:=20=09<5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk>=09=09<54035098.4000505@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20|In-Reply-To :=20; b=hcspPp+wWZpiyg5NgVWwYRSjkYNj0cqVCR+45Cu2z1SJMC1tfNfhKsTTPNLKcMmmn 6R0Y3crC4OPX61i6a+FOPPAPjo6Lc9mbNl2CyQWQapbF/Zj8LPlsYMC3kmGBV2idmb dKvDbdLQbpG7h1egrsak7S5Wx5KGPqIC0WE7NHaM= Message-ID: <54035CCD.5010203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:35:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: pkg-static: pkg-1.4.0.p.a11 conflicts with pkg-1.3.7 (installs files into the same place). References: <5402D87E.4080701@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54035098.4000505@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QIjjCEEw6jfnXm1qFri5qcArSm8HX6F30" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:35:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QIjjCEEw6jfnXm1qFri5qcArSm8HX6F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31/08/2014 18:14, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> >>> # pkg info -r pkg >>> pkg-1.3.7: >>> pcbsd-utils-1394538598 >>> >>> Is this enough to cause the problem? >> >> Yeah -- that's enough to cause pkg-devel to be replaced by pkg. Guess= >> that's another port with a run-time dependency on pkg. >> >=20 > Thanks for the clarifications. I have a few questions. >=20 > (1) Is it wrong for a port to explicitly specify a dependency on pkg? > Should pcbsd-utils port be fixed? No -- as I now recall, pcbsd-utils includes a GUI for installing packages. That's a valid use of libpkg, so having a dependency there is fine. > (2) How did I get a dependency on pkg-1.4.0? Does the > FreeBSD_new_xorg repository depend on > pkg-1.4.0 or pkg-devel? I don't know. I believe the official FreeBSD pkg repositories have always used the release version of pkg, so I can't see what would have pulled in pkg-1.4.0 for you. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --QIjjCEEw6jfnXm1qFri5qcArSm8HX6F30 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUA1zWXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATgNMP+wUzMlPiKCpOJG5M3CvvDDqg xQyqsCNaciPrT7DjtM6oKVWO/7qc1EWB+yubMLfX0ZhG8TUQIy/47nSF4aht3xk7 fUaZHr38KWoH3RJe5yinP+FNWPqyGIeoxl6mU3cgwILyAS1Az1Q7R3aF9sMy3uRm 3+ON7KCWd1pukL/YKE2pVzEOd11D7441XmMx1U+r3aQNTpSnHYw9fV8vbipkRJwX 21Ol6GvRfodqHbi+PO/vuvmGjpBJILVK+6BQNJR0A4pGjo5vDSWV+Zfr4xsRh5YA Nqw+lDSXLvbp9rb0Io5upWEKd/9bh3qemuyGqpaQGA54g1BwA5SSMljjWr1JmIH4 XWVI5S97R4CoITjctRNk3QheWGn0Hj8HWjbMaTRlbjC8fbAHxZKZzQReWP56qZJ0 xuUc3kLMT+36KMqmDcQHsURPjjtbPHZhxpdwnuPj2zfYrj314/V3yi2aBze7ysWo ogMoGrbmHj8Qg6ndRMfl5q2PB6a3aRcM/L5i8uzRyl/o4yxuP8ma7oUSwJricxFP QNuX9m+/l/VF0fULXW3EKF7uMAlznEMQqKziY0zdwwgc8/revnEoUdEx/9Uvo5mq GJnoMJ1zY2oETNg8ldCu59SwXXRt5sMKT/xpYJgR8ovBVEFycHjtxwK9fJNi2Nb3 JqtoeEhaDPg/4NN7Lii0 =f1o+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QIjjCEEw6jfnXm1qFri5qcArSm8HX6F30-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 21:29:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45B9419D for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135EA1C08 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7VLTvQM034614 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:29:57 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 193195] lang/ruby21 deleted lang/ruby19 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:29:58 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: swills@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: In Discussion X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ruby@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:29:58 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=193195 --- Comment #4 from Steve Wills --- (In reply to gja822 from comment #3) > Thanks for reply. But I've followed all instructions in ports/UPDATING from > 20130527 and later (and much earlier), so I hadn't expected such behaviour. > I had 1.9 as default for a long time, till AFAIR 20130527 (when I made > ruby=2.1 in make.conf instead of DEFAULT_RUBY_VER=1.9 or smth similar). > After that I had no such problems. (But, I suppose, some other port(s) > ignored that line in make.conf and reinstalled ruby-1.9). If you had: ruby-1.9.3.547,1 and: ruby21-2.1.2,1 installed, ruby 1.9 was your default ruby, not 2.1. If 2.1 was default, you would have had: ruby-2.1.2 and perhaps: ruby19-1.9.3.547,1 The one without the suffix in the name is the default one. > Well, from lang/ruby21 directory first time I made deinstall (which deleted > previously upgraded ruby-1.9 version) and afterwards I couldn't make install > ("ruby-2.1 and ruby21-2.1 conflict" since installing in the same place). > O.K., may be it's not wrong, but some recommendations on changing default > versions or something like that would be useful. When changing the default version, you have to at least reinstall all versions of ruby that are installed. > I've finally pkg delete'd wrong "ruby21" version with dependants and > reinstalled all afterwards manually, so I cannot reproduce any more. Ok, in that case I'm going to be unable to solve this issue, so I propose we close this bug. Thanks for the report, if similar issues come up, I'll take a look. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 09:42:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2351ECF5 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5B4111A8 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id hz20so5799669lab.31 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 02:42:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=BiVqx7aDY7c90Kxggw2eazam5bPIaRe3rz/4v+Xbx6s=; b=rqurTlqpIrFXNkTmkjqsszPp6zFjxKDKFACQByEJbsi5sCXsYt8hdJ8DGI728eWeLS CKqYfoiDSuH5q4JFb5NIv0gbgODPfAGAzOvkddOMcwi8m+dKQal/4T8mJS/T3jcfdXiZ N3gRiAgAINsJh8Qnh6AeyEXGkkMf+kGSLG1REULzgGbm5xRC/OtXQia2/E3cJElvrBws rSjkRp1Ys0DRgzLks/1iZeZWK/Sdmx1+lY1z1c25IoRdJwzwdD8wL1PhmOmCYpeiuIZp iFFWn0q4xntWx9q3HKMDVVZsA5+iOELhWmMWyplCGqs7AdHzFFY1r8ZRw+U0mQIJIN6L Pw3A== X-Received: by 10.152.37.199 with SMTP id a7mr19070508lak.68.1409564542611; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 02:42:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.149.205 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:41:42 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: F2hdVZXcUQO8617wZV42FxcGfPo Message-ID: Subject: pkg crashing? To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:42:25 -0000 Just a quick note: # pkg upgrade postgresql90-client-9.0.17 postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16 postgresql90-server-9.0.16 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. pkg: No packages available to upgrade matching 'postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16' have been found in the repositories Child process pid=86122 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault: 11 Maybe something's missing when a package cannot be upgraded. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:01:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 651E8CA; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (mail-la0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B79FD1396; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id pn19so5793362lab.4 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 03:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UcG2FNyakVv9imDR3uLbZhIBgfLjRqBQENuHPEC2hTE=; b=imOqOcw4nJddooNlplQPFZ48jbsOvIs0mSqJ/lLO8JALoUffW57ehyjTPkg3U+9WXg VTz0Nd0WrvUMEIZRH+lN/YqC5L02jJOdoNkCfiLn3rJTYQu9dTTsVNm7zNncPJF8jeTy AiHMngOzDhzs4aSgrv8YYicnX1W0Hkce9s06dSs+PAblwaEU2/MhNKEnZGBc0g0ikHGS dFZHavVaXNSWaHh6cZjtcjaKr/v50fh4ipPTRwScXhWOfDcKpv631BPcqhexg8dPuxaV bnm8urzCIZKXux2+Jdjkrih4+Z2mk243QvNKyDkToTRlKdMnTHEzCkG8HQq2h5NBn3Fr Esjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.134.101 with SMTP id pj5mr26141020lbb.47.1409565703204; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 03:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.197.107 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 03:01:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 03:01:43 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ntItUMQpSRdNniQbYhdcV7sa6GA Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg crashing? From: Craig Rodrigues To: Ivan Voras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:01:46 -0000 On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Just a quick note: > > # pkg upgrade postgresql90-client-9.0.17 postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16 > postgresql90-server-9.0.16 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: No packages available to upgrade matching > 'postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16' have been found in the repositories > Child process pid=86122 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault: 11 > > Maybe something's missing when a package cannot be upgraded. What version of pkg are you running? Next time provide the version of pkg that you are running, when reporting a problem. With pkg 1.3.7, I don't get that crash. I get this: # pkg upgrade postgresql90-client-9.0.17 postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. pkg: postgresql90-client-9.0.17 is not installed, therefore upgrade is impossible pkg: No packages available to upgrade matching 'postgresql90-client-9.0.17' have been found in the repositories # -- Craig From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:20:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A3CE391; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22a.google.com (mail-lb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89806156E; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w7so5680767lbi.15 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 03:20:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9jttZlegV5BHjRZ0XL3ltpttDKBXReCmaJLFY77U84w=; b=Pv3RcycyZphDTR9pNHzBAGh/cd3rhw1vCa3Jsug5ashQSr9HFa82mtNjm2/brOEWo9 LICBDGlDCpIvATZ4+Ru2bjokC1uARlJIH7sN4Hg1qeYGZ4XuenuJk5wl0HOvSijNJEoM Ho262QIhkEVtPyiNbEFD3qwT6sLUWohQb/eSPXuxiZMxYvYbrPICAkNkEGqVnGmv06mG esbv9vcMKcRe1vNNkn1nuGL+rNNvq1YfcI4y+Sq38cqziOrhvenoQBxCwwnCOyCG357z SVAlnIATenIy3ETxkeWYQPK0Cde74CK81zYMzQB8ASLgpAgNz/LAarks0dCtHQEalkmM Wniw== X-Received: by 10.112.221.37 with SMTP id qb5mr26051640lbc.69.1409566831302; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 03:20:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.149.205 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 03:19:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:19:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oWrzJ9dJWlEjkVGUTcVxFMHz9sk Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg crashing? To: Craig Rodrigues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:20:34 -0000 On 1 September 2014 12:01, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: >> Just a quick note: >> >> # pkg upgrade postgresql90-client-9.0.17 postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16 >> postgresql90-server-9.0.16 >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >> All repositories are up-to-date. >> pkg: No packages available to upgrade matching >> 'postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16' have been found in the repositories >> Child process pid=86122 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault: 11 >> >> Maybe something's missing when a package cannot be upgraded. > > What version of pkg are you running? > Next time provide the version of pkg that you are running, when > reporting a problem. > > With pkg 1.3.7, I don't get that crash. I get this: > > # pkg upgrade postgresql90-client-9.0.17 postgresql90-contrib-9.0.16 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: postgresql90-client-9.0.17 is not installed, therefore upgrade is > impossible > pkg: No packages available to upgrade matching > 'postgresql90-client-9.0.17' have been found in the repositories > # I don't force pkg version so it's always the latest, 1.3.7. It does seem that it could be a local issue, I have some bad experiences with pkg recently. What's up with pkg and dependencies lately? I've just installed libreoffice on this machine which had icu52 installed, and the install passed without error AND without replacing icu52 with icu53, so the program naturally crashed with Shared object "libicuuc.so.53" not found, required by "libcomphelper.so" I've just upgraded icu manually (with "pkg upgrade icu"), but it *didn't upgrade any packages depending on it*, so I'm now left with binaries depending on a missing library: # ldd `which vmtoolsd` vmtoolsd: libvmtools.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libvmtools.so.0 (0x800823000) libkvm.so.5 => /lib/libkvm.so.5 (0x800a9b000) libcrypt.so.5 => /lib/libcrypt.so.5 (0x800ca3000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x800ec2000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x8010e5000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x8012e8000) libffi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6 (0x801535000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x80173c000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x80193d000) libpcre.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.3 (0x801c35000) libintl.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.9 (0x801e99000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x8020a3000) libicui18n.so.52 => not found (0) libicuuc.so.52 => not found (0) libicudata.so.52 => not found (0) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x80239f000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x8026a6000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x8028c7000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x802ad5000) libicui18n.so.52 => not found (0) libicuuc.so.52 => not found (0) libicudata.so.52 => not found (0) # pkg which `which vmtoolsd` /usr/local/bin/vmtoolsd was installed by package open-vm-tools-nox11-1280544_4,1 # pkg search open-vm-tools open-vm-tools-1280544_6,1 open-vm-tools-nox11-1280544_6,1 # pkg info|grep open-vm open-vm-tools-nox11-1280544_4,1 Open VMware tools for FreeBSD VMware guests # pkg -v 1.3.7 # pkg upgrade open-vm-tools-nox11 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Updating database digests format: 100% pkg: plexhometheater has a missing dependency: lame The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be UPGRADED: open-vm-tools-nox11: 1280544_4,1 -> 1280544_6,1 The operation will free 5 kB. 431 kB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]:y Fetching open-vm-tools-nox11-1280544_6,1.txz: 100% 431 kB 442.1k/s 00:01 Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) [1/1] Upgrading open-vm-tools-nox11 from 1280544_4,1 to 1280544_6,1: 100% # ldd `which vmtoolsd` /usr/local/bin/vmtoolsd: libvmtools.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libvmtools.so.0 (0x800823000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x800a9b000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x800c9e000) libffi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6 (0x800eeb000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x8010f2000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x8012f3000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x8015eb000) libpcre.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.3 (0x8018e7000) libintl.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.9 (0x801b4b000) libkvm.so.5 => /lib/libkvm.so.5 (0x801d55000) libcrypt.so.5 => /lib/libcrypt.so.5 (0x801f5d000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x80217c000) libicui18n.so.53 => /usr/local/lib/libicui18n.so.53 (0x80239f000) libicuuc.so.53 => /usr/local/lib/libicuuc.so.53 (0x802813000) libicudata.so.53 => /usr/local/lib/libicudata.so.53 (0x802ba1000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x80428b000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x804592000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x8047b3000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x8049c1000) This is the same type of problem I've complained in my post about php - but this is a completely unrelated system. 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From: Craig Rodrigues To: Ivan Voras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:45:28 -0000 On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > I don't force pkg version so it's always the latest, 1.3.7. It does > seem that it could be a local issue, I have some bad experiences with > pkg recently. OK. You should still report the version every time you report a problem, because pkg development is fast moving. In the past few months, there are a lot of minor releases which fix problems (and break a few things along the way :). It is also useful to provide information about your system such as if you upgraded only with packages from pkg.freebsd.org, or if you built any ports yourself. You might want to see if doing: pkg update -f pkg upgrade -y gets your system into a working state. -- Craig From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 19:55:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A1B7FE7; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 764771A60; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id k48so5902838wev.34 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 12:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; bh=pzxq8ur5+6RNzoGg93/FfFfjo1oqOszqau+mRCk/qzM=; b=hZXRFkyyUwP6VXPS8NZ/7IRSnPHZvuSlY1/kayIunWbYAeByRXo2iopGjHM3UnD0Mh Mmcs7ujEQft/jsHj29zyiY1x4UI3wc7Pv0yFaJBWD/dLOfR9D5pIg4moHKnQUMCeEHV6 QZ1vrOy20N72HOc6TrsM59+i2ctVunj4R4bMjECIc3LEZRtmqP18+Vz6ZpQV5gZUH9rp npqjV7nYx52EjzTKjQNXaNvVwmdcQyW7gl5fli7ZjmrMSP/OXtez6p3Om+N+XhGHgbAu JiMpczVbMgMweKLqUGzDLAq4KhN7x64ioHaePVWzsI/mIw2wGfZgbAVeb30iCTP+W6kS W7/A== X-Received: by 10.194.108.41 with SMTP id hh9mr34076770wjb.68.1409601323728; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 12:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r8sm4289106wjy.20.2014.09.01.12.55.22 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:55:20 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: ports@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:55:26 -0000 --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, The ports tree has been modified to only support pkg(8) as package manageme= nt system for all supported version of FreeBSD. if you were still using pkg_install (pkg_* tools) you will have to upgrade = your system. The simplest way is cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg make install then run=20 pkg2ng You will have lots of warning, don't be scared, they are expected, pkg_* databases used to get easily mangled. pkg2ng is most of the time able to de= al with it. If however you encounter a problem then please report to pkg@FreeBSD.org A tag has been applied to the ports tree if you need to get the latest ports tree before the EOL of pkg_install: https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/tags/PKG_INSTALL_EOL A branch has been created if some committers want to provides updates on the for pkg_install users: https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/branches/pkg_install Please note that this branch is not officially maintained and that we stron= gly recommend that you do migrate to pkg(8) Best regards, Bapt on behalf of portmgr --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlQEzygACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ez62ACeKBwgmchm6kJ2rVnYukF+PVH4 0WgAnRVv9QdxS/27NEU+WJBpNg96Zf6u =gM2v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 00:19:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 185CBC0B; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72ACF1578; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:19:29 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB80004QZQPH900@hades.sorbs.net>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:19:19 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-reply-to: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, pkg@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:19:30 -0000 Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi all, > > The ports tree has been modified to only support pkg(8) as package management > system for all supported version of FreeBSD. > > if you were still using pkg_install (pkg_* tools) you will have to upgrade your > system. > > The simplest way is > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > make install > then run > pkg2ng > > You will have lots of warning, don't be scared, they are expected, pkg_* > databases used to get easily mangled. pkg2ng is most of the time able to deal > with it. > > If however you encounter a problem then please report to pkg@FreeBSD.org > > A tag has been applied to the ports tree if you need to get the latest ports > tree before the EOL of pkg_install: > https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/tags/PKG_INSTALL_EOL > > A branch has been created if some committers want to provides updates on the > for pkg_install users: > https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/branches/pkg_install > > Please note that this branch is not officially maintained and that we strongly > recommend that you do migrate to pkg(8) > > Best regards, > Bapt on behalf of portmgr > And for the portsnap users? -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:14:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 741B5606 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD071B92 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s821EXw5015103 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:14:33 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 193195] lang/ruby21 deleted lang/ruby19 Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:14:33 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: swills@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Issue Resolved X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ruby@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_status resolution Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:14:33 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=193195 Steve Wills changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|In Discussion |Issue Resolved Resolution|--- |Unable to Reproduce -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:39:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D717AB90; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x236.google.com (mail-vc0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E6EB1D54; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id im17so6207736vcb.41 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EDddnFDjbRLMlBYKZ/aqRFPoXdlZ0Is/Bi+YFecmJrQ=; b=oPIjIJJivjOZoJX1rqrbU35IGTi/7YexPeaIMgG/e1j3DwGxHf5ibm6CxxTnDdNFTh 6VVtAkdg2ck1ICokQEUcNdMbiUicnVlUp4szo1xdJeH3AbtYK6XUbG3D7yCdD2s5E15i 4vRgvRIHMO4OZ6zqivG3LLJ/hTbw84DZk/MMtsWyp+IsxdgRSS1yavNUxTBG5Fs9iNqp XgR9SUAz15E57ZnSs20icMZX5HfKnns7hFiFNyaIca67Ehj1CzT4gWf9YQ+LDseav4TZ BcIeh92V8ZGK2QRmcOIceR3pLqtGCsRQbnh4SMHKv8LM6RG0nSTr5DkWzHEdLwKP/CAS v68A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.163.69 with SMTP id z5mr27867954vcx.10.1409621974373; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.57.72 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:39:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Michelle Sullivan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:39:36 -0000 > > And for the portsnap users? > > In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. Portsnap is a tool that used to obtain a copy of the ports tree. Portsnap is only one way, another way to get a copy of the ports tree is by using subversion and checking it out by using the svn command. pkg(8) is a package management tool, and to make use of most packages having a copy of the ports tree is not required. > > > -- > Michelle Sullivan > http://www.mhix.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:51:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08FEAFC5; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2FE1E3F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:51:34 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB90005G40CH900@hades.sorbs.net>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:51:31 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> In-reply-to: Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:51:35 -0000 Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> And for the portsnap users? >> >> >> > In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. > Sure about that? > Portsnap is a tool that used to obtain a copy of the ports tree. > try this: portsnap fetch update && cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg && make install If you *haven't* install pkg first... > Portsnap is only one way, another way to get a copy of the ports tree is by > using subversion and checking it out by using the svn command. > Not much good if you haven't installed svn already... > pkg(8) is a package management tool, and to make use of most packages > having a copy of the ports tree is not required. > > Correct, take a 9.2 install disk, install it, portsnap and then install pkg on it... Oh wait, you can't.. pkg_install is broken, and 9.2 install disks don't have pkg in the BaseOS.... -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 02:17:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D6E5576; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0145.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89293111B; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] (2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df) by CY1PR0301MB0843.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.149) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1019.16; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:16:55 +0000 Message-ID: <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:16:49 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Sullivan , Sam Fourman Jr. Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0017.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.180.155) To CY1PR0301MB0843.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.149) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0322B4EDE1 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(189002)(199003)(24454002)(51704005)(74502001)(31966008)(74662001)(77096002)(83322001)(50986999)(42186005)(59896002)(4396001)(85306004)(93886004)(87266999)(99396002)(65816999)(76176999)(99136001)(54356999)(102836001)(46102001)(88552001)(21056001)(83506001)(64706001)(50466002)(101416001)(85852003)(83072002)(90102001)(79102001)(80022001)(117636001)(23676002)(65956001)(86362001)(89122001)(76482001)(64126003)(92726001)(20776003)(47776003)(81542001)(92566001)(81342001)(77982001)(107046002)(75432001)(95666004)(87976001)(105586002)(106356001)(89472002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB0843; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:17:07 -0000 On 2014.09.01 20:51, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >>> And for the portsnap users? >>> >> In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. >> > Sure about that? I'm sure of it. Your issue is with the tree itself, not the tool used to fetch it. > Correct, take a 9.2 install disk, install it, portsnap and then install > pkg on it... Oh wait, you can't.. pkg_install is broken, and 9.2 > install disks don't have pkg in the BaseOS.... Use the ports tree tarball included, or fetch it (either during or after installation). It is not impossible to get an old version of the ports tree with only the 9.2 base system. I don't see how this is anything more than an inconvenience. Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you would be doing a new install with 9.2. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 02:20:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDF5E8C7; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 937481174; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from julian-mbp3.pixel8networks.com (50-196-156-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.156.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s822KsDZ018211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <54052981.7010502@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:20:49 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sam Fourman Jr." , Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:20:57 -0000 On 9/1/14, 6:39 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> And for the portsnap users? >> >> > In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. > > Portsnap is a tool that used to obtain a copy of the ports tree. > > Portsnap is only one way, another way to get a copy of the ports tree is by > using subversion and checking it out by using the svn command. > > pkg(8) is a package management tool, and to make use of most packages > having a copy of the ports tree is not required. But it is if you don't want the options that a pkg is built with. We need to do a lot of pkg munging for that reason, generating our own versions (which is ok, that's not a complaint, just a fact of life). I've warmed to pkg after using it a bit, and many of its initial shortcomings have been fixed. But one thing I'd like to request (a very minor thing).. Could the packing list have some newlines inserted into it to make it more humanly readable? Our old tools for auditing and controlling (old style) packages would print out that information. The new tools we need to write will need to do similar. We did an experiment at work here and wrote a small script that parsed it and then rewrote it back to the package with newlines added and pkg handled it just fine, so it should be a very minor thing to add some newlines when generating it in the first place. I don't think anything else needs to be changed. > >> >> -- >> Michelle Sullivan >> http://www.mhix.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 02:27:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C7E6BC9; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (thyme.infocus-llc.com [199.15.120.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 758671262; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-75-65-60-66.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [75.65.60.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CBD237B409; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:26:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3hnBxW1HBHz18B; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:26:55 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <20140902022655.GI43581@over-yonder.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23-fullermd.4 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:27:04 -0000 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 03:51:31AM +0200 I heard the voice of Michelle Sullivan, and lo! it spake thus: > > Correct, take a 9.2 install disk, install it, portsnap and then > install pkg on it... Oh wait, you can't.. pkg_install is broken, > and 9.2 install disks don't have pkg in the BaseOS.... So what? The pkg port uses _ITSELF_ to register. The "pkg" in the base system isn't pkg, it just a bootstrap to fetch the pkg pkg (which them uses itself to register too). If you're using the pkg _PORT_, it's not even involved in the first place. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 02:27:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 564EFE5E; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57AF127F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:27:45 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB90005O5OMH900@hades.sorbs.net>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 04:27:41 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Andrew Berg Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> In-reply-to: <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:27:46 -0000 Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.01 20:51, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >>>> And for the portsnap users? >>>> >>>> >>> In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. >>> >>> >> Sure about that? >> > I'm sure of it. Your issue is with the tree itself, not the tool used to fetch it. > > >> Correct, take a 9.2 install disk, install it, portsnap and then install >> pkg on it... Oh wait, you can't.. pkg_install is broken, and 9.2 >> install disks don't have pkg in the BaseOS.... >> > Use the ports tree tarball included, or fetch it (either during or after > installation). It is not impossible to get an old version of the ports tree > with only the 9.2 base system. I don't see how this is anything more than an > inconvenience. > Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you. Not for many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't been writing my own ports.... oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? broke shit... (badly) ... > Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you would be > doing a new install with 9.2. > Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer... They still install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I checked, on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*) * the 10.0 is the original release, completely unpatched. Look I'm not saying the change isn't for the better, I'm saying not supporting older systems until you're sure 99% of the userbase is upgraded is not a bad thing, what I am saying is deliberately breaking all older systems (some without *major pain*) when the new system has just had a major issue, and not everyone had time to upgrade is a *bad thing* ... (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this date and things *might* not work as expected' - even Windows XP didn't got his root... they EOL'd XP, then they stated for 2 or was it 3 years, that after 'x' date there would not be any new security patches... but you can still get software for XP, some is even patched... FreeBSD... Sept 1, 2014, you're not on pkg, you're fucked.) -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 02:40:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CC32209; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 455B71363; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from julian-mbp3.pixel8networks.com (50-196-156-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.156.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s822e0Pt018262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:39:54 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Berg , Michelle Sullivan , "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> In-Reply-To: <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:40:03 -0000 On 9/1/14, 7:16 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.01 20:51, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >>>> And for the portsnap users? >>>> >>> In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. >>> >> Sure about that? > I'm sure of it. Your issue is with the tree itself, not the tool used to fetch it. > >> Correct, take a 9.2 install disk, install it, portsnap and then install >> pkg on it... Oh wait, you can't.. pkg_install is broken, and 9.2 >> install disks don't have pkg in the BaseOS.... > Use the ports tree tarball included, or fetch it (either during or after > installation). It is not impossible to get an old version of the ports tree > with only the 9.2 base system. I don't see how this is anything more than an > inconvenience. > Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you would be > doing a new install with 9.2. sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in business is that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your choice. The custommers require it.. You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and operations department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 machines for no real reason (from their perspective). On that topic, 10.0 is slightly broken from that perspective because as you install it, it upgrades pkg to a new version that was not in 10.0, so you can no longer build a 10.0 machine that matches the 10.0 machines you installed at the custommer site when 10.0 first came out, that they qualified as acceptible.. Well you MAY get the mostly same result, but the 'pkg' you have is a different one so the image checks out as different' (Imaginary hooters sound and theoretical security alerts trigger etc.) (oh and it interacts badly with the installer designed to run with the previous version.. The first part of the install works fine, and then half way through the install, things go strange when pkg upgrades itself.) 10.0 is past but we should think about how to prevent that in 10.1 etc. I guess the pkg config file in the install needs to be locked down to the release until the install is completed. We should make sure the base install only installs the pkg in the release and doesn't upgrade itself without asking first... (luckily that last issue doesn't affect most business customers who use their own install schemes). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:00:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD1AB961; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1436A15A3; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:00:01 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB90005Y76DH900@hades.sorbs.net>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <540532AC.2070508@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 04:59:56 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> In-reply-to: <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, Andrew Berg , FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:00:01 -0000 Julian Elischer wrote: > > You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and > operations > department You work for the same company as me? > some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 machines > for no real reason (from their perspective). > -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:03:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95817C7D; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0211.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C81C01854; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BN3PR0301MB0835.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.145) by BN3PR0301MB0867.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.155.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1019.16; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:07 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] (10.255.156.132) by BN3PR0301MB0835.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1015.19; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:05 +0000 Message-ID: <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:02:59 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.255.156.132] X-ClientProxiedBy: CH1PR03CA005.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.156.150) To BN3PR0301MB0835.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.145) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0322B4EDE1 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(24454002)(51704005)(199003)(189002)(65956001)(87266999)(54356999)(105586002)(95666004)(76176999)(106356001)(90102001)(110136001)(89122001)(64126003)(65816999)(47776003)(81342001)(20776003)(80022001)(107046002)(64706001)(83506001)(101416001)(50986999)(81542001)(88552001)(85306004)(93886004)(59896002)(21056001)(99136001)(87976001)(83072002)(86362001)(74502001)(23676002)(75432001)(50466002)(79102001)(99396002)(102836001)(92726001)(74662001)(117636001)(77096002)(31966008)(46102001)(83322001)(85852003)(76482001)(77982001)(92566001)(4396001)(42186005)(89472002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BN3PR0301MB0835; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:03:24 -0000 On 2014.09.01 21:27, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you. Not for > many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't > been writing my own ports.... oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? broke > shit... (badly) ... There were instructions for upgrading 1.3.6 to 1.3.7 alongside a notice that things would not be good if the instructions were not followed and an explanation of the issue. I think these kinds of notices need to reach more people, but of course, that is easier said than done. BTW, from what I have observed, 1.3.x issues have affected Poudriere users the most, binary package users a bit less (but still significantly), and pure ports users very little. >> Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you would be >> doing a new install with 9.2. >> > Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer... They still > install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I checked, > on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*) Fair enough. > (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not > work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this > date and things *might* not work as expected' No, it means "we're not supporting this any more, so we don't care if there are new vulnerabilities or things stop working". I'm not going to dictate to other people what their upgrade schedule should be, but anyone running unsupported versions of software should not have any expectation that the ecosystem around it will be accommodating. The ports tree already requires a lot work to make sure everything works on supported versions of FreeBSD, and I see no reason whatsoever for anyone to put effort into making it work on EOL versions. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:03:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7710EFB; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0240.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B189F1858; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] (10.255.156.132) by BY1PR0301MB0837.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1019.16; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:20 +0000 Message-ID: <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:03:14 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer , Michelle Sullivan , Sam Fourman Jr. Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.255.156.132] X-ClientProxiedBy: CH1PR03CA010.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.156.155) To BY1PR0301MB0837.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.143) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0322B4EDE1 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(24454002)(189002)(199003)(80022001)(47776003)(87266999)(93886004)(99396002)(50466002)(50986999)(21056001)(75432001)(85306004)(117636001)(90102001)(59896002)(4396001)(88552001)(64706001)(86362001)(23676002)(65956001)(76176999)(54356999)(42186005)(101416001)(99136001)(20776003)(81542001)(87976001)(83322001)(102836001)(83506001)(77096002)(92566001)(92726001)(83072002)(85852003)(74502001)(74662001)(31966008)(65816999)(81342001)(106356001)(95666004)(64126003)(107046002)(79102001)(76482001)(46102001)(105586002)(77982001)(89122001)(89472002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY1PR0301MB0837; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:03:29 -0000 On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote: > sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in > business is > that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your > choice. > The custommers require it.. > You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and > operations > department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 > machines > for no real reason (from their perspective). FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I will admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical environment, so if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details. Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods if you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things that the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need it. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:09:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1BB52CF; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EDE18D2; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:09:10 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB9000627LOH900@hades.sorbs.net>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <540534D3.603@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 05:09:07 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Andrew Berg Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> In-reply-to: <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:09:11 -0000 Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.01 21:27, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you. Not for >> many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't >> been writing my own ports.... oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? broke >> shit... (badly) ... >> > There were instructions for upgrading 1.3.6 to 1.3.7 alongside a notice that > things would not be good if the instructions were not followed and an > explanation of the issue. I think these kinds of notices need to reach more > people, but of course, that is easier said than done. > BTW, from what I have observed, 1.3.x issues have affected Poudriere users the > most, binary package users a bit less (but still significantly), and pure ports > users very little. > I am a poudriere user... across 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 10.0 on both i386 and amd64 :/ > >>> Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you would be >>> doing a new install with 9.2. >>> >>> >> Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer... They still >> install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I checked, >> on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*) >> > Fair enough. > > >> (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not >> work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this >> date and things *might* not work as expected' >> > No, it means "we're not supporting this any more, so we don't care if there are > new vulnerabilities or things stop working". I'm not going to dictate to other > people what their upgrade schedule should be, but anyone running unsupported > versions of software should not have any expectation that the ecosystem around > it will be accommodating. > That's my point - there was a patch waiting to submit that knowingly broke pkg_install at midnight on the day after the EOL... the EOL shouldn't be an EOL - because it was really a 'portsnap after this date before you upgrade and you're screwed it won't work any more at all...' > The ports tree already requires a lot work to make sure everything works on > supported versions of FreeBSD, and I see no reason whatsoever for anyone to put > effort into making it work on EOL versions. > Some of us have production systems that span 6.0->10.0 (and most version in between) and are fighting fires with minimal help just trying to keep ahead.... -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:14:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A134DC; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE1F1198F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id ey11so13499780pad.7 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=oIfc7aJO58TuzASWK0RQ4jy+9Yhk4gChdAMQ5RMR7Rc=; b=zycZ+nOYpgKuCBnxLKkP+KaeaJuCNKVCzUGMDEYZtQ1+xXumgi5Bx6xoKozWutA4Fo iMVMVsXZwbJCykgRRUnT9azHo1jlQIy18HdDw54rrCQhKql75/QuhVirCen+zmmQXMHp oaWTS34WsjfzuB2047VZqsMCJDBbo6/8wYq1KwALwdL9LtQ5bZebiXkYQpr2pcvPuTob Bg2nAsepY9LCYL5KAtQAK7x+vSQn6LKlLE4D6L32KuT8By+zKL+YfwURA0YS8FfNQ/+R z+Y0EgZ1e7UQFUWX4z8L+5D7NyA7cGW/YLsQO++BbLegHrbkwfE6YK4tA50b7jyKvc36 ISgQ== X-Received: by 10.68.161.197 with SMTP id xu5mr560415pbb.160.1409627664154; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.5] (c-98-247-240-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [98.247.240.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qa2sm3387221pdb.38.2014.09.01.20.14.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: yaneurabeya@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:14:22 -0700 Message-Id: <8E432427-B3A8-4BF7-B54F-DE9B8CA268DC@gmail.com> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> To: Andrew Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Michelle Sullivan , "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:14:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Sep 1, 2014, at 20:02, Andrew Berg = wrote: > On 2014.09.01 21:27, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you. Not for >> many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't >> been writing my own ports.... oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? = broke >> shit... (badly) ... > There were instructions for upgrading 1.3.6 to 1.3.7 alongside a = notice that > things would not be good if the instructions were not followed and an > explanation of the issue. I think these kinds of notices need to reach = more > people, but of course, that is easier said than done. > BTW, from what I have observed, 1.3.x issues have affected Poudriere = users the > most, binary package users a bit less (but still significantly), and = pure ports > users very little. >=20 >>> Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you = would be >>> doing a new install with 9.2. >>>=20 >> Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer... They still >> install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I = checked, >> on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*) > Fair enough. >=20 >> (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not >> work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this >> date and things *might* not work as expected' > No, it means "we're not supporting this any more, so we don't care if = there are > new vulnerabilities or things stop working". I'm not going to dictate = to other > people what their upgrade schedule should be, but anyone running = unsupported > versions of software should not have any expectation that the = ecosystem around > it will be accommodating. > The ports tree already requires a lot work to make sure everything = works on > supported versions of FreeBSD, and I see no reason whatsoever for = anyone to put > effort into making it work on EOL versions. Installing pkgng on FreeBSD 7.x isn=92t impossible, but it does = require jumping through some hoops because xz not being present until = 8.x. These directions aren=92t complete (welcome to feedback if anyone = runs into issues), but they=92re a start: = https://github.com/yaneurabeya/scratch/blob/master/docs/cheatsheets/freebs= d . 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As Peter outlined, this EOL was announced long ago, and it was mentioned at least once that it was to allow breaking changes. There really would be no reason to drop support for it in the ports tree if there were no plans to make changes. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:30:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 256A8F7E; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEC51AE7; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:30:13 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB9000698KQH900@hades.sorbs.net>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <540539C0.7010008@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 05:30:08 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Andrew Berg Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> <540534D3.603@sorbs.net> <540538C6.8050505@my.hennepintech.edu> In-reply-to: <540538C6.8050505@my.hennepintech.edu> Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:30:14 -0000 Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.01 22:09, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> That's my point - there was a patch waiting to submit that knowingly >> broke pkg_install at midnight on the day after the EOL... the EOL >> shouldn't be an EOL - because it was really a 'portsnap after this date >> before you upgrade and you're screwed it won't work any more at all...' >> > As Peter outlined, this EOL was announced long ago, and it was mentioned at > least once that it was to allow breaking changes. There really would be no > reason to drop support for it in the ports tree if there were no plans to make > changes. > The point is the EOL was not an EOL, it was a deadline, either switch or you're screwed, and it was communicated as an EOL not as a "here's a deadline, switch or you're screwed" -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 06:27:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A114C916 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 06:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 324F51D2A for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 06:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s826RXOe063853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 07:27:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s826RXOe063853 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s826RXOe063853; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <5405634A.9040803@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:27:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <54052981.7010502@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <54052981.7010502@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SMKKlWswQatlGcNscEQfIcW5c0PdMA47S" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:27:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SMKKlWswQatlGcNscEQfIcW5c0PdMA47S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/09/2014 03:20, Julian Elischer wrote: > We did an experiment at work here and wrote a small script that parsed > it and then rewrote it back to the package with newlines added and > pkg handled it just fine, so it should be a very minor thing to add > some newlines when generating it in the first place. > I don't think anything else needs to be changed. Have you tried looking at the output of 'pkg info -R pkgname' ? I think that should have as many new lines inserted as you could with for. Yes, the +MANIFEST and similar files are minified by turning all sequences of whitespace into single spaces. It seems to make a difference somewhere, although I'm not exactly clear where myself. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --SMKKlWswQatlGcNscEQfIcW5c0PdMA47S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUBWNUXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATC1AP/1a23eauDO2LDKWVvedzUl7P jj32gmk6vr2jq/HTrU2tsis7Wglf8vTXnJqsi3IBGAyPs8RAAbhEdH2yz6mcJmtL KRAFYTYHkiT34eq9/ND8kigjs53bNLhcHrD/2AHbyTtBYGwJqQyc7H86V1E91LAQ O9GIQNzD9+VE/oFSuO6o8oGTxU7IQ6fj34wsc7joQW2eL1vgaHwNpbkhOoDhuwFO +iS0vucOa5CgL4efje2RwgmcSkC6uzVa84NZjWgsP1Zh+nqwnHbIkNwnEjJAUpl+ 0JdkojPyw0G9wWJkB+p8Rk97QP4BoRuYNQTPjiWpra7tmPrce5o63Wgp15nggd28 AEumPJg+cbh31zt9yqTsjijPO3GLE/h4VqDmpgnusUYDCg2zh3lj4ifVsuJmAfP0 HJkkUocnyMA60twNEY77Vig39S75M8L/DBa1JdW/A2URglp1Sv7N7csg2F4n7L5r cRXc2tHXx6V32oD4TyWm+C0tLgG/cgayuUAXgpnW1lXz2QjcG53D0HkvmEDbZzF6 wZ5XkYCi93o+wQMhoA6YOGFclnllUU8ZUyZtaqQNa2+ozY37LEasXe7B8V84woJA akhaAP6KKe4yiQ46cO/0hgXP99NrLkJL37VhGJ6NVuKUtRVTC4mg8PpjX+hvFGN/ s/eTztsxhzD3QDmyc4iN =q8KY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SMKKlWswQatlGcNscEQfIcW5c0PdMA47S-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 09:06:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34280BFF for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 025E11FC8 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local ([12.157.112.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8296W9E019214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <54058897.3080102@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:06:31 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <540532AC.2070508@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <540532AC.2070508@sorbs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, Andrew Berg , FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:06:40 -0000 On 9/1/14, 7:59 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: >> You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and >> operations >> department > You work for the same company as me? in a past life, they were a customer. > >> some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 machines >> for no real reason (from their perspective). >> From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 09:08:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43A2BCF6; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11060104D; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local ([12.157.112.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8298V6h019223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:08:31 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Berg , Michelle Sullivan , "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> In-Reply-To: <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:08:38 -0000 On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote: >> sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in >> business is >> that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your >> choice. >> The custommers require it.. >> You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and >> operations >> department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 >> machines >> for no real reason (from their perspective). > FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I will > admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical environment, so > if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details. > Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods if > you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things that > the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need it. It's not how disruptive they are technically. it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through before they allow you to put new software on any production system. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 09:44:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7063C50A; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com (mail-lb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C192D1501; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 10so7327672lbg.3 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:44:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=S74fE1vphDX9//oxb2hiRuaRYjO8TnkkqtHsxbDl6KQ=; b=Qo69kJhbbCalu9o8gEqF3UFOUiIPwkDELaq94fJvDM2ANiRs504bRvokpkP31Ydg0Z IX9n51JVJeDnvA7wuhi7l321j5kM2J2jHMpEjuqzZmCq0Dh0a8K1CLSfGkAW47S9d34J QxhLWc6LeovmmRygsqgXZjRVlueY67eUoPLDWTbO1EvEpKhmB7DAyQhDf7lN9C8Bqpf5 9KEQjerS6PJllQNL6v1BZedX7J1OfhOu8Xx4Pk9gNjFdt/QQCMo1Zz8VpioYRloHzTAF zzlGFFb9rMV33GuUYLVWZuRuhqhwrAIHR3k3LIfoMngMdFCcpoIWx3RN+OmrTWg4SkAS SIhA== X-Received: by 10.152.5.40 with SMTP id p8mr11840291lap.32.1409651068330; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:44:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.149.205 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:43:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:43:48 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xrfO-GWx9hBpvXW73BX6xejaqm0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg crashing? To: Craig Rodrigues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:44:31 -0000 On 1 September 2014 18:45, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: >> I don't force pkg version so it's always the latest, 1.3.7. It does >> seem that it could be a local issue, I have some bad experiences with >> pkg recently. > > OK. You should still report the version every time you report a problem, > because pkg development is fast moving. In the past few months, there > are a lot of > minor releases which fix problems (and break a few things along the way :). > > It is also useful to provide information about your system such as if you > upgraded only with packages from pkg.freebsd.org, > or if you built any ports yourself. Most are from pkg.freebsd.org but some I've installed from ports. But why should it matter? The pkg should record dependencies in both cases, right? Also, I appear to have had a similar (?) problem with chromium, on a *third* system: # pkg update Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. # pkg install chromium Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: chromium-36.0.1985.143_1 [FreeBSD] (direct dependency changed) The operation will free 816 KB. 28 MB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y pkg: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/All/chromium-36.0.1985.143_1.txz: Not Found Last week it wasn't in the repo databases but this week it is, BUT it's the wrong version. The version on the repo file server is chromium-37.0.2062.94.txz . Doing "pkg update -f" brought in the correct version. This version still crashes in the protobufs library, but this is probably because of the way chromium is built (http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.chromium/1412, https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=175508#c5). From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 10:01:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC1BF6DB; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (mail-la0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69BE11831; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id pn19so7458516lab.18 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IC2n2vDgwapYwPjo9ewXT/200DplrWHAIg6ywc5jWb0=; b=YiWsA1yfE5vzxR63skZyZOEZCF5MKVlGjjbAZHwbAEGNEnSgP6QV6jpRqe/Jcu62uy 0Oz4a3AwoViYeeONA3voytwvXs15IhAuDSZTQkUWur47gGtkVVKSTLEYtr/upZUxnqKx KrGm74j3lKmqqwNByLntg+sQai40Yx9F7WNnKrcaBQ82yvy2HQW7o+t5HzVRsVP0ZbbH 5CRKa26RWqqdyfPOHw1UqVxNcX4KtZtIcM0QbElY3STRCbZitw/ahnApHONVR5xhMi7v u4nYRxLCJmA/86C3GSZ2aL3SmcVqa24BTuolCFWJiy4QsRiRg9bqNxVtgHD3GkZA+OTr En5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.29.1 with SMTP id f1mr33160128lah.47.1409652073201; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.179.4 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:01:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:01:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: Alban Hertroys To: Julian Elischer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, Andrew Berg , FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Michelle Sullivan , "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 10:01:17 -0000 On 2 September 2014 11:08, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: >> >> On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> >>> sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in >>> business is >>> that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your >>> choice. >>> The custommers require it.. >>> You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and >>> operations >>> department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 >>> machines >>> for no real reason (from their perspective). >> >> FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I >> will >> admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical >> environment, so >> if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details. >> Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods >> if >> you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things >> that >> the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need >> it. > > > It's not how disruptive they are technically. > it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through before they > allow you to put new software on any production system. Just adding here, in commercial environments things don't change quickly or easily. Whether this applies to the current issue with pkg is not for me to say. For example, certain commercial upstream software vendors require to go through a certification process before they even consider supporting the new software you intend to use with theirs. Admittedly we haven't run into this issue in relation to FreeBSD, but we certainly have with Firefox. As an example, the last version of Firefox that Information Builders' WebFOCUS 7.7 supports is 3.6.7 (currently available versions are 31 or 32!) and for Internet Explorer that's 7 (currently at 11). If you run into any kind of problem, the standard answer is to use a browser that they support. Good luck with that! Firefox 3.6.7 was released on July 20, 2010; over 4 years ago. In such cases you're more or less required to keep an old system around that still has such old packages, if only to see if you can reproduce any issues you encounter (with modern versions of your software) on those old versions. With the deprecation of the old pkg_* tools you run into a conflict; You can either update packages that are _not_ under certification for such a vendor and get security updates and fixes using the new pkg, or you have to stick with the certified software and _not_ get any security updates or fixes. It gets more interesting if you have to deal with manufacturing processes (something we're looking to use FreeBSD for to replace our current OpenVMS systems before they go out of support), as often automatons write data to external databases and such software resides in PLC's. Manufacturing equipment tends to age and the kind of external databases they support is limited to what was available when they were new and the capabilities of the PLC involved. I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. Just saying... -- If you can't see the forest for the trees, Cut the trees and you'll see there is no forest. From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 10:25:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A587E5F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x236.google.com (mail-ob0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C103B1A94; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id va2so4593385obc.41 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k9IGqrh4dy6VCY9a7YKu7ZexWr6KRD28gf1AJvHR3to=; b=CTL/X9RJdWeQb+QKYnV8dHL67lYjFHuiafciVJwmImhX488+c812BlqDE0O6PceNmQ x5lDeNtjwckONdVL5AvH/n13ZW8sPoD4HXPTMWXPki8RsS0wtty9kZKgCqn56MpyGrvO FJ/uw0Ji7cM4QbmmllOOgpiVd+T6XQBboAU6waKh9+wGZNp7+603wjJ861Rjd/tEjhmE nX7YZ9XLMYHvuFG1hTbEWgroa6P3Ivcvr6NyhWDGqdHkhzTBy+hdswlaVDxSLmRHE9LM J3TYVXKifuGTUTzkNx96ramDv4ZQ9D42kU8nO02TBSgq+XOVXdvbIvz6ck33DYJ7ChWb tAiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.87.167 with SMTP id az7mr31235335obb.41.1409653519029; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: robbak@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.26.170 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:25:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <540539C0.7010008@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> <540534D3.603@sorbs.net> <540538C6.8050505@my.hennepintech.edu> <540539C0.7010008@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 20:25:18 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: w_tw4vUZNHB9rQB2WlCyJCQZKjk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: Robert Backhaus To: Michelle Sullivan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, Andrew Berg , FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports , "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 10:25:20 -0000 On 2 September 2014 13:30, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Andrew Berg wrote: > > On 2014.09.01 22:09, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > > >> That's my point - there was a patch waiting to submit that knowingly > >> broke pkg_install at midnight on the day after the EOL... the EOL > >> shouldn't be an EOL - because it was really a 'portsnap after this date > >> before you upgrade and you're screwed it won't work any more at all...' > >> > > As Peter outlined, this EOL was announced long ago, and it was mentioned > at > > least once that it was to allow breaking changes. There really would be > no > > reason to drop support for it in the ports tree if there were no plans > to make > > changes. > > > > The point is the EOL was not an EOL, it was a deadline, either switch or > you're screwed, and it was communicated as an EOL not as a "here's a > deadline, switch or you're screwed" > > -- > Michelle Sullivan > http://www.mhix.org/ > The point is the EOL was *actually* an EOL: a deadline, either switch or you're screwed, and it was communicated as an EOL: a "here's a deadline, switch or you're screwed" From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 10:53:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 235A7D89; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A19A81E11; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.118] (helo=webmailfront01.ispgateway.de) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1XOlho-0003hY-Pw; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:52:56 +0200 Received: from his1.his.de (his1.his.de [192.124.237.237]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:52:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:52:56 +0200 Message-ID: <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> From: Marcus von Appen To: stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Reply-to: mva@freebsd.org User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.0.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Df-Sender: ZnJlZWJzZEBzeXNmYXVsdC5vcmc= X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 10:53:10 -0000 Alban Hertroys : > On 2 September 2014 11:08, Julian Elischer wrote: >> On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: >>> >>> On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>> >>>> sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in >>>> business is >>>> that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your >>>> choice. >>>> The custommers require it.. >>>> You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and >>>> operations >>>> department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 >>>> machines >>>> for no real reason (from their perspective). >>> >>> FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I >>> will >>> admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical >>> environment, so >>> if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details. >>> Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods >>> if >>> you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things >>> that >>> the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need >>> it. >> >> >> It's not how disruptive they are technically. >> it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through before they >> allow you to put new software on any production system. > > Just adding here, in commercial environments things don't change > quickly or easily. Whether this applies to the current issue with pkg > is not for me to say. > > For example, certain commercial upstream software vendors require to > go through a certification process before they even consider > supporting the new software you intend to use with theirs. > > Admittedly we haven't run into this issue in relation to FreeBSD, but > we certainly have with Firefox. As an example, the last version of > Firefox that Information Builders' WebFOCUS 7.7 supports is 3.6.7 > (currently available versions are 31 or 32!) and for Internet Explorer > that's 7 (currently at 11). > If you run into any kind of problem, the standard answer is to use a > browser that they support. Good luck with that! > Firefox 3.6.7 was released on July 20, 2010; over 4 years ago. > > In such cases you're more or less required to keep an old system > around that still has such old packages, if only to see if you can > reproduce any issues you encounter (with modern versions of your > software) on those old versions. > > With the deprecation of the old pkg_* tools you run into a conflict; > You can either update packages that are _not_ under certification for > such a vendor and get security updates and fixes using the new pkg, or > you have to stick with the certified software and _not_ get any > security updates or fixes. > > > It gets more interesting if you have to deal with manufacturing > processes (something we're looking to use FreeBSD for to replace our > current OpenVMS systems before they go out of support), as often > automatons write data to external databases and such software resides > in PLC's. Manufacturing equipment tends to age and the kind of > external databases they support is limited to what was available when > they were new and the capabilities of the PLC involved. > > I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get > impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand > that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but > software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. > It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those issues in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago instead. It can't work that way. My 2 cents in this discussion :-). Cheers Marcus From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 11:47:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BDAB1BA; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D36214BE; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:47:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NB90030JVLPSK00@hades.sorbs.net>; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 04:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:47:32 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: mva@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> In-reply-to: <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:47:37 -0000 Marcus von Appen wrote: > Alban Hertroys : > >> >> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get >> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand >> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but >> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. >> > > It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those > issues > in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is > gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago > instead. It can't work that way. > > My 2 cents in this discussion :-). Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2 weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 12:08:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C509BB44; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A21061875; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c106.sec.cl.cam.ac.uk (c106.sec.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.18.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s82C8Kpp037492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:08:22 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:08:20 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0B55DEDF-7268-4E7A-8971-36AB68D0C170@FreeBSD.org> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> To: Michelle Sullivan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:08:33 -0000 On 2 Sep 2014, at 12:47, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > I'm not happy that the EOL was > not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. I'm not sure what you think the difference is. The EOL says 'the = FreeBSD project no longer supports this configuration'. If you are not = relying on us for support (i.e. using an old or forked ports tree, or = building your own packages), then things will continue to work. If you = are expecting (unpaid, volunteer) support from the project in the form = of packages and a useable ports tree, then you need to use a supported = configuration. If being able to use the ports tree without installing pkg(8) is = sufficiently valuable to you, then I can put you in touch with some = companies that will backport things to a copy of the ports tree for your = use (although the price tag will scale with the number of ports that you = want to support). If, however, your complaint is that it's hard to get new software = certified for your system *then this change has absolutely no effect on = you!* If you're not worried about upgrading ports at all, then you can = just stick with the ports tree version from the time of your release. = If you're able to upgrade ports, then upgrading the pkg port should not = be an issue. David From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 13:37:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40050C52; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36CCF1825; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id cc10so7419845wib.6 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/98x4GdfqDGMHKxvPm9QzQPxM1yht2GzTWUUCQez8N8=; b=wqy3GkXsuuGDwBLKpzbmhfzL5LRP+LujBQaJzAyTDqa/DJFbaUVpwe0Ydh9C3k6pzi P31nZ5PZQoCkwuPCfQKiodQaxnAuDnGyb3Ls4IbgT5XPiAqAUJXexgXsiROc14lUn1/R NXzHJTQTzCVCoTEItKgeS1grx7eLaVwPYricEckCjoQO4DxBFKs0VVfcXbVOsXSFGohv 1owHc0XNrv2yae5hgzHEK/SFrh42kDgRBD8AozK9Q2cSdwH0psEHYNH6YETh3UwnxsOf QFffGVVBBdyq36heJoehRrvFLUT+WBctNjEy4Lsz4rG4f2HKM9Rm1CZYTYQe6hY7kp5c BQqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.12.173 with SMTP id z13mr5159697wib.53.1409665046312; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.18 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:37:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: Brandon Allbery To: mva@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:37:30 -0000 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcus von Appen wrote: > It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those issues > in the time between tthe announcement and now > If this is an issue that needed to be brought up, then FreeBSD has apparently never before been used in an enterprise??? -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.net From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 13:46:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF469186 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94AE91954 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s82Dkrru051193 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:46:53 GMT (envelope-from bdrewery@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bdrewery@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s82DkrPi051188 for pkg@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:46:53 GMT (envelope-from bdrewery) Received: (qmail 72000 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2014 08:46:51 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.0.24?) (freebsd@shatow.net@10.10.0.24) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 2 Sep 2014 08:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: <5405CA1B.2040307@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:46:03 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Sullivan , Andrew Berg Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> OpenPGP: id=6E4697CF; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan2.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6G4B6moeWhpM3KfU6P1ao0eIQcNeCCdbu" Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:46:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6G4B6moeWhpM3KfU6P1ao0eIQcNeCCdbu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/1/2014 9:27 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? broke > shit... (badly) ... What broke? I am not aware of any new regressions in 1.3.7. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --6G4B6moeWhpM3KfU6P1ao0eIQcNeCCdbu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUBcofAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPyioH/16aV4b62T/5obGJ2G+toY5U 2Ooh5AV+LrYbIKSW+uNP6goayOpjlSFBwG1g8jMo1+W1nj9LL9D2q4KjPbmXczXe x63bvJkoZzM6iBEFK0ZiNGzTu2ynL3vEB6xH8EqtSCwYWre8R2kCc6uI0S17oJAL FqMF7STvgzrO1dz97/SG7wtl2x9itx+e+YGLlr/N5wKLsE1FryTZbTz5ebiC3Rf2 05sBIG5vyGS1KfwaQCGHLzqNA+gKHkeDsF1KgZ7M18wCB7MF8bQZ02LK+mQGH2rK r5be9eP6LrECSCaunfvvvnnnsNIzUv2bt+gF6eLYYOQ51h3Js0UuPM7A142KJrI= =95C5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6G4B6moeWhpM3KfU6P1ao0eIQcNeCCdbu-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 14:30:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7073EB03; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D3041EB9; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.118] (helo=webmailfront01.ispgateway.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1XOoyD-0000Fx-UV; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:22:05 +0200 Received: from his1.his.de (his1.his.de [192.124.237.237]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:22:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:22:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20140902162205.Horde._7jSRVzORy7dvrf149pEyw1@webmail.df.eu> From: Marcus von Appen To: Brandon Allbery Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> In-Reply-To: Reply-to: mva@freebsd.org User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.0.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Df-Sender: ZnJlZWJzZEBzeXNmYXVsdC5vcmc= Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:30:27 -0000 Brandon Allbery : > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcus von Appen wrote: > >> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those issues >> in the time between tthe announcement and now >> > > If this is an issue that needed to be brought up, then FreeBSD has > apparently never before been used in an enterprise??? I'm tempted to ask, if the enterprise has SLAs to ensure continuity, even after the official support has ended? ;-) Cheers Marcus From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 15:21:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72C59BD7; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B13015D5; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id kq14so15024840pab.37 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:21:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=RM0DjhXDiVwKblsuCnkr+SD80Xp9nHM663HDvxNEklI=; b=C6zwB5DytJX4sv4cw3f3OSJ9SCHNbSCAROLxtuK00Pbik24wdN8UsA3D2u/SoFKbI0 PZ6UNtoB4SqZo3cGjob9QxyF+arivOw9WQj4vOWeqkHvCZ8y55CvA4QKT9jT+C9Vr87k +MBMBYKPk6nSbcySyqmPV96LyZ4s5xOFfHa+ka9JGTdag3WIuPX4HzSNAoD83Vmr+5Tk BzVFnufPOpfDBq3ZHwe3cVR2GqqYXmLqCycaenPSxXk4fA8N9KFmfD7Svnptgaj3JaZR xhpa/4tKvb36rJ0iWbbWwZxN0gMY70tpJ9ih3V82Q7ag1Bdy0PrVHs+4IOHYiTCwve2T lzZQ== X-Received: by 10.70.91.208 with SMTP id cg16mr48085651pdb.91.1409671300627; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.11] (c-98-247-240-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [98.247.240.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fn4sm12257960pab.39.2014.09.02.08.21.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:21:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) From: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:21:38 -0700 To: Michelle Sullivan Cc: "ports@freebsd.org" , "pkg@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:21:41 -0000 > On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:47, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >=20 > Marcus von Appen wrote: >> Alban Hertroys : >>=20 >>>=20 >>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get >>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand >>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but >>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. >>=20 >> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those >> issues >> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is= >> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago >> instead. It can't work that way. >>=20 >> My 2 cents in this discussion :-). >=20 > Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for > breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2 > weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with > an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was > not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. Hi Michelle, One subtle point that I wanted to ask for clarification is you thought t= he EOL announcement for pkg_install was going to be "pkg_install is no longe= r going to be supported, but you can still use it", instead of "pkg_install s= upport is going to be removed from the tree" -- is that correct? You'd probably hate to do this, but forking the sources and changing fro= m portsnap to a git or svn backed ports tree that downloads a tarball snapsh= ot might be the best resolution to this issue now... Thanks! -Garrett= From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 15:40:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5BBFD3; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA661969; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:40:41 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NBA0031V6E6SK00@hades.sorbs.net>; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:40:37 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> Cc: "ports@freebsd.org" , "pkg@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:40:41 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:47, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> Marcus von Appen wrote: >> >>> Alban Hertroys : >>> >>> >>>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get >>>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand >>>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but >>>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. >>>> >>> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those >>> issues >>> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is >>> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago >>> instead. It can't work that way. >>> >>> My 2 cents in this discussion :-). >>> >> Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for >> breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2 >> weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with >> an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was >> not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. >> > > Hi Michelle, > One subtle point that I wanted to ask for clarification is you thought the EOL announcement for pkg_install was going to be "pkg_install is no longer going to be supported, but you can still use it", instead of "pkg_install support is going to be removed from the tree" -- is that correct? > 100% correct! (thank you for being one of the few to see the subtle but *very* important difference) > You'd probably hate to do this, but forking the sources and changing from portsnap to a git or svn backed ports tree that downloads a tarball snapshot might be the best resolution to this issue now... > This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued... however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure... Time to rebuild everything from scratch I think - second time in a year.. I'm guessing my boss is going to tell me, use RPM, no wasting more time on it... only time will tell... you'll know the result if you see future posts and patches from me. Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 15:47:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A71587C; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D40A1A88; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id t60so7096785wes.24 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AxDVbuHqlRugWMMrVk3q/NOc29DA/5zPImOF07Tf58Q=; b=eQ9Lq7k7B18As5pPjxEHyCaR0F75LCOevNkKsY+MBQF5RSW7kP6EozfKcf/pHTeNR9 0xjbo6fXy1UN4CN+VFmpztcqEckS1Y13hGAL7DJaShkIwrQzFijnJJ9zO2JXIC8R+K9W uGcwtvG/GepEoKRgkDcyZFp4GWeZNbAxAcGLIeLrCYgaWTEmjSkxvDjDe3knzqmDtU6n Fo8egZhOBudN8lm/TXpcdeIQ9z1z/R+NppmMqhjXwQi4bNKSDLBm+tmIeSvGishdI9eK k4tGLxnezg/ZnA2ALYaY1D9JF63TjUqlQLNT57oKBNjiNj6tLiJEVjsHhUJ6FgmZYsmV 6mxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.35.133 with SMTP id h5mr29159901wij.74.1409672869633; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.18 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:47:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: Brandon Allbery To: Michelle Sullivan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "pkg@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" , "ports@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:47:52 -0000 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my > build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically > converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued... > however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same > directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure... > So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place. *Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.net From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 15:53:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3EEBE3F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22B11B9F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NBA00321709SK00@hades.sorbs.net>; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5405E810.8000400@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:53:52 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Brandon Allbery Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> In-reply-to: Cc: "pkg@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" , "ports@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:53:57 -0000 Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan > wrote: > > >> This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my >> build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically >> converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued... >> however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same >> directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure... >> >> > > So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably > should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is > supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place. > *Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your > jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via > poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches. > > The roll until they get a stable base (using Jenkins as the controller) - they've been rolling since a patch to DBIx-SearchBuilder (that I created and submitted), which out came the DBD::Pg update to 3.3.0 and the subsequent blacklisting of it for RT 4.x and then the tcl breakage around mid August until 2 days ago... So yeah not that stupid. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 18:35:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93A96EB5 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 18:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DCAD1182 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 18:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XOsv0-0004kC-UB for freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:35:02 +0200 Received: from 117.85-200-5.bkkb.no ([85.200.5.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:35:02 +0200 Received: from christer.solskogen by 117.85-200-5.bkkb.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:35:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org From: Christer Solskogen Subject: Re: how to rsync from pkg.freebsd.org Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:32:19 +0200 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <20140313102947.GE90364@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 117.85-200-5.bkkb.no User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <20140313102947.GE90364@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:35:20 -0000 On 13.03.2014 11:29, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 03:37:45PM +0800, Jason wrote: >> hi all: >> >> I'm from china.we have thousands of machines running on FreeBSD. >> Because the link between china and usa is poor,the pkg instal is >> very slow and often failed... >> so we want to build our own pkgng mirror. >> Does the pkg.freebsd.org offer any rsync interface so we can access? > > This is being worked on, we are experimenting a couple of different ways and > will soon communicate on a viable way to do it. > > Stay tuned :) > I've stayed, and tuned. Is this possible now? -- chs From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 14:24:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 154CD95; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (mx3.absolight.net [IPv6:2a01:678:2:100::25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEBD91FF7; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682B3BDC6B; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:30 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=mat.cc; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=plouf; bh=Aj8eSUHEOnP 6YqetHNu81/PQtEw=; b=cQKzfs7BKSDAT+j1Duo3F87i9MG6tWxgaoUnmfzGUfV SGEvPyIPwv6qGW2TwqkxmN0Wr5ifHfcnAkXaAcCp2+OHtWGPsoqR1arxz1zf3ruU aK2+gnZ+NlyYxs+AmJ6d/B//x6VlVpgHMUdy3Kleh8FlJ45herTkZyIC/fYhfDo0 = Received: from gw.in.absolight.net (gw-ecl.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gw.in.absolight.net", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42DE0BDC4C; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ogg.in.absolight.net (ogg.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.239]) by gw.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB3E6158; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogg.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43E67302D9F; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:24:27 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold To: Michelle Sullivan , mva@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:24:34 -0000 +--On 2 septembre 2014 13:47:32 +0200 Michelle Sullivan wrote: | Marcus von Appen wrote: |> Alban Hertroys : |> |>> |>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get |>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand |>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but |>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. |>> |> |> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those |> issues |> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is |> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago |> instead. It can't work that way. |> |> My 2 cents in this discussion :-). | | Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for | breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2 | weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with | an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was | not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. -- Mathieu Arnold From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 14:36:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8D7E83E; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96711233; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:36:33 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NBB0041XY3AEV00@hades.sorbs.net>; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 07:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5407276D.3050200@sorbs.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:36:29 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Mathieu Arnold Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> In-reply-to: Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:36:34 -0000 Mathieu Arnold wrote: > I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of > Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. > > Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore... -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 14:56:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B392145F; 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Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ogg.in.absolight.net (ogg.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.239]) by gw.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF268614F; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:56:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogg.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54783730328C; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:56:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:56:14 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <9DAF63F1F61E0FC2F6B237BD@ogg.in.absolight.net> In-Reply-To: <5407276D.3050200@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <5407276D.3050200@sorbs.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:56:18 -0000 +--On 3 septembre 2014 16:36:29 +0200 Michelle Sullivan wrote: | Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of |> Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. |> |> | Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore... Not at all, but you don't update them any more. -- Mathieu Arnold From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 15:17:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B076A8E; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9F818E4; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:17:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NBC0042B004EV00@hades.sorbs.net>; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 08:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5407311C.5070903@sorbs.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:17:48 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Mathieu Arnold Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <5407276D.3050200@sorbs.net> <9DAF63F1F61E0FC2F6B237BD@ogg.in.absolight.net> In-reply-to: <9DAF63F1F61E0FC2F6B237BD@ogg.in.absolight.net> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:17:51 -0000 Mathieu Arnold wrote: > +--On 3 septembre 2014 16:36:29 +0200 Michelle Sullivan > wrote: > | Mathieu Arnold wrote: > |> I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of > |> Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. > |> > |> > | Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore... > > Not at all, but you don't update them any more. > > Actually you do, but it does nothing... just like freebsd-update on any EOL release... Microsoft didn't release a patch that would change the base system so you can no longer install any software... They just stopped providing updates, then later stopped providing security updates. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 15:21:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 766C4C5A; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (mx3.absolight.net [IPv6:2a01:678:2:100::25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ABCD1991; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758AEBDC4C; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 17:21:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=mat.cc; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=plouf; bh=heWRH7OprhS SCsmTR9UhrGkAvCs=; b=AtCPliyl4/Uw7BGODhYk1DCf21xPxxQyPPiCu84lIAq i4JVLHJUMI49h4uikHiATvD4FHOTbcq8JhPIWP/8Ybp6Q1WeK2fmXTUyhBkpRcct jftzF0lMTWEs9T9aSq2/Vxdyd8hLiGwzgsW0xBlN5MdFzZf8DyzEjqFx6kmFkNC4 = Received: from gw.in.absolight.net (gw-ecl.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gw.in.absolight.net", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51FC6BDC2E; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 17:21:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ogg.in.absolight.net (ogg.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.239]) by gw.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE5E6158; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 17:21:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogg.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827907303680; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 17:21:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:21:10 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <562F5E76969DAAFC2106C9EC@ogg.in.absolight.net> In-Reply-To: <5407311C.5070903@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <5407276D.3050200@sorbs.net> <9DAF63F1F61E0FC2F6B237BD@ogg.in.absolight.net> <5407311C.5070903@sorbs.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:21:14 -0000 +--On 3 septembre 2014 17:17:48 +0200 Michelle Sullivan wrote: | Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> +--On 3 septembre 2014 16:36:29 +0200 Michelle Sullivan |> wrote: |> | Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> |> I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End |> |> Of Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. |> |> |> |> |> | Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore... |> |> Not at all, but you don't update them any more. |> |> | Actually you do, but it does nothing... just like freebsd-update on any | EOL release... | | Microsoft didn't release a patch that would change the base system so | you can no longer install any software... They just stopped providing | updates, then later stopped providing security updates. You can still go and fetch/build software. You can't do it using the FreeBSD App Store though. -- Mathieu Arnold From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 18:34:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96E79D5F; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 18:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A69D117D; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 18:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAD356A6027; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 20:34:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s83IYQtx016736; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 20:34:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s83IYNWm015273; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 20:34:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 20:34:23 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <20140903183422.GF57121@e-new.0x20.net> References: <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <5407276D.3050200@sorbs.net> <9DAF63F1F61E0FC2F6B237BD@ogg.in.absolight.net> <5407311C.5070903@sorbs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kb0TSCuX821Ar6UT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5407311C.5070903@sorbs.net> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p4 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:34:30 -0000 --kb0TSCuX821Ar6UT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 05:17:48PM +0200, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Mathieu Arnold wrote: > > +--On 3 septembre 2014 16:36:29 +0200 Michelle Sullivan > > wrote: > > | Mathieu Arnold wrote: > > |> I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *En= d Of > > |> Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. > > |>=20 > > |> =20 > > | Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore... > > > > Not at all, but you don't update them any more. > > > > =20 > Actually you do, but it does nothing... just like freebsd-update on any > EOL release... >=20 > Microsoft didn't release a patch that would change the base system so > you can no longer install any software... They just stopped providing > updates, then later stopped providing security updates. Same for FreeBSD and pkg_*. Stay with status quo, use pkg_* with the last tagged version of the ports tree that works with pkg_* or switch to pkg and be happy like the rest of us. --kb0TSCuX821Ar6UT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUB18uXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tabsIAJ4weLg9YkfoV0bYtgERt7OY MrjOmHOsUZpeZ+7AN4FuTgDHXr1ilhC9rrp3tYdsKYRrUjJZZAaaHYS36fmJbFfU fvHrMVJ+v/RD0untC6rS/uBIrYxBsSG8xUtlTNlFeOuiXgFYEHxF1drTCt9SkK2w +X6XTOms5ynCNZIYG+UnX86a0yV63Emy8XDpDGtEYAaQcm7B5M3RAUzIrxz1YcaD mNDHPz8ow2cnSrZ61dT3akPqxJXdlYtRonDRKu2+3nrmqytq0gU160yMuY5Ewdmu j9ZpcEXPjfge8GvRAjRUvScSB1OxdpB4agcOX+G9ZQwdaJeJMaLWsxaTe/+3Tls= =jMHl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kb0TSCuX821Ar6UT-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 23:21:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E24462E2 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 23:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22b.google.com (mail-ob0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD5F017E9 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 23:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id wn1so6746813obc.16 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ayjkwrSSBGul2wuLgJw1Ptz+iIen9n3KppuZdOeHMiM=; b=UEXheNfowSk2dJ1zO3N+LDzT3BhSjqSHPwsrJKAMjOL6LkZ0iQSt4Z2lE0vFGZlnnn SN1stQ/X1CGIarYKynyBXLFziPeqhqLqkrf1k9cpSU+l9t8bmmD53Dgd0HjUO9Rae8FY Xsg24f2xgVALOb83QsyyDEGGP4PHisOL9lgSwQn9HfwP1hsxxMYc038QPdq46+XQFgW4 veIKO4PX1X7Z6dJrnERO5uIWiduhIDpjk0rRHOAe8UIPjmq+t7XAVafDC+mCn28nzCl0 MyvDCWKEY/42tRNen60cKjiStCtKiRY0IPbDbrJggOZUZfhcJGF2+WICHTTa9JMAZJR8 DwIw== X-Received: by 10.60.124.115 with SMTP id mh19mr633977oeb.40.1409786498042; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:21:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.129.232 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: franck.porcher@gmail.com From: Franck Porcher Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 13:21:17 -1000 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 10.0 install - pkg database error when trying to install packages from the commercial DVD To: pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:21:39 -0000 Hello FreeBSD, I'm sorry to bother you with the following question, but I find myself stuck in trying to (post)install FreeBSD packages directly from the commercial DVD. The install went just fine, and I can use teh computer. But I get the following error when selecting "Packages > CD/DVD" from the bsdconfig command ncurses-based menu : *No pkg(8) database found!* pkg has been boostrapped as indicated, and there are 2 databases in /var/db/pkg, namely : local.sqlite (148K) repo-FreeBSD_install_cdrom.sqlite (16M) and the later seems populated... So, would someone have an idea what such msg actually means, what I'm doing wrong, and how I could overcome the situation. Much thanks in advance for any direction to look for (I have installed FreeBSD since release 6 and cannot remember ever having been met by this msg in trying to install precompiled packages) Franck From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 4 05:42:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FA1E204 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 05:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com (mail-oi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDBFD1E93 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 05:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id x69so1230950oia.12 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:42:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RwIX97B8l0qtVFzM1wSNd5H7eR6nK24MlX1MBPbWe0I=; b=nD/Yxq3QThRAHx4+4DkHv2nFpJgW/G6dlIuc/h5GnDCOKV8P4vRlR+bXU4nOV/R8ra KkgrgLg+wnBQvp/L6swls57h9PAeikq77Z7EEArhLjQ9fxF0xrTsoyFNmx/FmJGrcu+N aqyUG1OssPe+Chn6UotgkR+J/Nh8/H5aaY7I+0KA33Jo5QydkWXXJYFC1G8U85fbTs2q XVoeRNf97mXTDg4wg44SZ6F1p5aHYjyVsyuEdeysK/+0y2bpPudVjjuV1mDc18MBbh7l uEtQFkWlleegJamhccW2/TJakyIKuDpyzZp536HnnZ5WY+jckY7k//z+7nnw4aJ2Z8wn j8qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.22.82 with SMTP id b18mr2301388obf.32.1409809320961; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.200.130 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 22:42:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 13:42:00 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD Port: x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard From: Fervent Dissent To: pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 05:42:02 -0000 This is the first update I've done since switching to the new xorg. The first time neither the keyboard or mouse drivers were correctly chosen. Now the mouse upgraded fine, but the keyboard still defaults to the old xorg driver. After working on it I confirmed by manually downloading both versions. My keyboard only worked after 'pkg add xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2.txz'. The version pkg fetches is 11120kB, the one I added is 11124kB. I am using all packages on my system. Could this be fixed? I also tried to build from ports, but that also built the wrong version? I just wanted to report this incase others have problems. X.Org X Server 1.12.4 Release Date: 2012-08-27 [ 10560.924] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 10560.924] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p3 amd64 [ 10560.925] Current Operating System: FreeBSD satellite 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r267603: Wed Jun 18 20:00:27 CST 2014 sara@satellite:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TWILIGHT amd64 [ 10560.925] Build Date: 28 August 2014 02:53:46PM [ 10561.397] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'Mouse0' [ 10561.398] (**) Option "CorePointer" [ 10561.398] (**) Mouse0: always reports core events [ 10561.398] (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" [ 10561.398] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" [ 10561.398] (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" [ 10561.398] (**) Mouse0: always reports core events [ 10561.398] (==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 [ 10561.398] (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" [ 10561.398] (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7 [ 10561.398] (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 7 [ 10561.398] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE, id 6) [ 10561.399] (**) Mouse0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 [ 10561.399] (**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration profile 0 [ 10561.399] (**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 [ 10561.399] (**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 [ 10561.399] (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 [ 10561.399] (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse [ 10561.399] (II) LoadModule: "kbd" [ 10561.400] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so [ 10561.401] (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 10561.401] compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.8.0 [ 10561.401] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver [ 10561.401] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 [ 10561.401] (EE) module ABI major version (7) doesn't match the server's version (16) [ 10561.401] (II) UnloadModule: "kbd" [ 10561.401] (II) Unloading kbd [ 10561.401] (EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module requirement mismatch, 0) [ 10561.401] (EE) No input driver matching `kbd' -- !CAUTION! 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From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 4 06:04:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E0B8A0D; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 06:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout04.t-online.de (mailout04.t-online.de [194.25.134.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C02D510B8; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 06:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de (fwd33.aul.t-online.de [172.20.27.144]) by mailout04.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 0ABDB5A7A97; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 08:04:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.119.33] (VOjJheZVwhiL61s+qz1yaQLDNpiXN-nwfzrpoM7zv3AElts7gv3rO7VGCyFIG67g6M@[84.154.101.219]) by fwd33.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) esmtp id 1XPQ9u-1vcH200; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 08:04:38 +0200 Message-ID: <540800EE.6070201@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 08:04:30 +0200 From: Stefan Esser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fervent Dissent , ports FreeBSD , x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: VOjJheZVwhiL61s+qz1yaQLDNpiXN-nwfzrpoM7zv3AElts7gv3rO7VGCyFIG67g6M X-TOI-MSGID: 044822ca-fb93-47ec-8663-d4e0bfa0d61f Cc: pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 06:04:51 -0000 Am 04.09.2014 um 07:42 schrieb Fervent Dissent: > This is the first update I've done since switching to the new xorg. The > first time neither the keyboard or mouse drivers were correctly chosen. Now > the mouse upgraded fine, but the keyboard still defaults to the old xorg > driver. After working on it I confirmed by manually downloading both > versions. My keyboard only worked after 'pkg add > xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2.txz'. The version pkg fetches is 11120kB, the > one I added is 11124kB. I am using all packages on my system. > > Could this be fixed? > > I also tried to build from ports, but that also built the wrong version? I > just wanted to report this incase others have problems. This is caused by your use of the vt console driver with a Unicode keymap containing characters >= 0x100. I have annalyzed this and created a PR with patch for the port: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=193192 As a workaround, you may start the X server with a US keyboard by issuing kbdcontrol -l us just before starting X. You'll need to select an appropriate keymap under X, then. Regards, STefan PS: This is a problem with the xorg-input-keyboard port and if it is not fixed within that port, there will be a huge number of users affected, when 10.1 is released. This must be fixed! From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 4 15:44:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78463A17 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 15:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22d.google.com (mail-lb0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07C5C1B4B for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 15:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id c11so11795392lbj.32 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=mctEfQGAi12fpx30mXxIKb0QzKOdxO4s8dCTOimB3Nc=; b=VGjKfWV9mWQ6edM6YG1PQU43q/EaZBWkA/mrmsSSMJfH/si1MizgFuwv3ASGHDur/Z DVsQEpHl96/wfHbuDuusHBtsixp3jhtr7DiyTLtXAT3Wq9UKTLgLcw00lQCTQM58nYzi RxAa4oDFiOx2lKIl/ws23h+zMyw0njCm3ug5cNsLJhdeqHGjXFtm0hgYeYSJDCmH2hLY znkrvzonlKW0FyqWu9Yj3G1MyQgruMxp6Ihxirkk8W8H9L5f/KxN0G/1qyYzIiQaR3Gn 02zyJi9dlLMqQR3xRlbK5HI34ArdO75p447vIBrnS+einzGG71C8I/mWKjsnO9JRqtqs /H+g== X-Received: by 10.112.157.132 with SMTP id wm4mr5083962lbb.89.1409845441995; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.149.205 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 08:43:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:43:21 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G4DwiT9BZEe48hHkwMFePyCD5oQ Message-ID: Subject: Dependancy tracking not working??? To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:44:04 -0000 Hello, As a continuation of my previous (and unanswered) post about upgrading php, I've made a clean virtual machine for testing and installed php5 with several extensions on it using pkg. I've waited a few days for some changes to the PHP port to happen, and now have a slightly obsolete version of PHP and its extensions which I'd like to upgrade. The situation is this: # pkg info|grep php php5-5.4.31 PHP Scripting Language php5-curl-5.4.31 The curl shared extension for php php5-gd-5.4.31 The gd shared extension for php php5-session-5.4.31 The session shared extension for php php5-xml-5.4.31 The xml shared extension for php php5-xmlrpc-5.4.31 The xmlrpc shared extension for php php5-zlib-5.4.31 The zlib shared extension for php Note that my installed version of php5 is "5.4.31". A repo search shows this: # pkg search php5 ... php5-5.4.31_1 php5-bcmath-5.4.31_1 php5-bz2-5.4.31_1 ... I.e. the most recent version of php5 is "5.4.31_1" Running "pkg upgrade php5", however, does NOT result in all the dependencies on PHP to be upgraded: # pkg upgrade php5 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. pkg: plexhometheater has a missing dependency: lame The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be UPGRADED: php5: 5.4.31 -> 5.4.31_1 2 MB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: Dependency information is correctly recorded: # pkg info -r php5 php5-5.4.31: php5-xml-5.4.31 php5-session-5.4.31 php5-zlib-5.4.31 php5-gd-5.4.31 php5-xmlrpc-5.4.31 php5-curl-5.4.31 So... how can I upgrade php and all things which depend on it? This is only a single example, I've complained of the same problems the last couple of days, on real, non-test servers. This time, I have a test server and can offer access to it to whomever wants to fix it. (this is, as before, pkg 1.3.7 on FreeBSD 10). From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:36:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9CD21E9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 766B11D0E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id s18so2975984lam.14 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:36:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hdRqZuu1g1sdi2gW1iMmlFv4+zsWiUYNU6w9LbrS0tc=; b=IivZS159azZmgTlH/WCdZbeObK4FDZ4pd4Ka2ukNneZCyFu5xpVIOI5Ezsokf50IrN lsnlo2Bjg62NUOdXq4eG4C1mr4pnjm+jn3eO4nhwNMupvm/P/xZsQ5wVsjrZRh4LXfRC k54hVdAbcgiPP5QMzx17Gsnsu0es4Dc3HpYRT+MlhADleDjvgVIf2RE9D7z4DWeU6Fq3 a6Pgwbv6lIaHZypMzh3wQT05Ie0v48sSO3/TxsOmNivuGUnZqi5mhOPc/n1eMgYsrI/m MX8O6wS4MuiOe9VZ1CC12AF0AX10CZhNvadxl7qYu2zqHZEA5Y5N2+NwUxLijdSVjac5 gg+A== X-Received: by 10.112.157.132 with SMTP id wm4mr11522306lbb.89.1409927807146; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:36:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.149.205 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:36:07 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qYP5w1_u_yiZ2PbtZpj5PYKDQQI Message-ID: Subject: pkg upgrade -f refusing to upgrade packages??? To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:36:50 -0000 Hello, I seem to keep either finding problems in pkg or completely missing the point of it :( Here's another issue: # pkg info -g 'cups*' cups-1.7.3 cups-base-1.7.3_1 cups-client-1.7.3 cups-filters-1.0.55 cups-image-1.7.2 cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_8 Right, so my interpretation of the output above is that I have that set of packages installed on this system. Now, I would like to force-upgrade them all: # pkg upgrade -f `pkg info -g 'cups*'` Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. The following 3 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: cups-1.7.3 [FreeBSD] cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_8 [FreeBSD] cups-base-1.7.3_1 [FreeBSD] (options changed) 9 MB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y So... what happened to the other packages? It looks like pkg is completely ignoring 3 other packages from the original list. Indeed, trying to upgrade just this one package missed by "pkg upgrade above" says: # pkg upgrade -f cups-image-1.7.2 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. Erm, no, this package is NOT up to date: # pkg search cups-image cups-image-1.7.3_1 cups-image-1.7.3_1 I presume the package is listed twice because it appears in two repositories. (but this problem is NOT specific to multiple-repositories issues, the same happens with e.g. p5* packages which are present only in the official repo). (this is pkg 1.3.7 on FreeBSD 10) From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 16:57:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DD4FEDD for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4FF1FC8 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [109.15.143.125]) by msfrf2103.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D707C7000074 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 18:52:11 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: sfrmc.priv.atos.fr; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none (no policy) header.from=listjm@club-internet.fr Received: from [192.168.1.67] (125.143.15.109.rev.sfr.net [109.15.143.125]) by msfrf2103.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2CE37000065 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 18:52:11 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20140905165211732.B2CE37000065@msfrf2103.sfr.fr Message-ID: <5409EA31.9050506@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 18:52:01 +0200 From: Juan =?iso-8859-1?b?UmFt824=?= Molina Menor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: pkg upgrade -f refusing to upgrade packages??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:57:45 -0000 > Hello, > > I seem to keep either finding problems in pkg or completely missing > the point of it :( > > > > Now, I would like to force-upgrade them all: > > # pkg upgrade -f `pkg info -g 'cups*'` As far as I know and the manual says, the -f option forces the reinstallation or upgrade of the whole set of packages, this ignoring your provided pkg-names. > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... > FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > The following 3 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): …of 0 checked… This is maybe not related to your issue, but at least could remove one source of confusion. Did you issued a "pkg update -f" after upgrading to pkg 1.3.7? Hope it helps, Juan From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 19:14:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09A4DBA8 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apnoea.adamw.org (apnoea.adamw.org [204.109.59.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D96881084 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.192.25] (dhcp-108-170-169-12.cable.user.start.ca [108.170.169.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by apnoea.adamw.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E2101143C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Weinberger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: poudriere nginx.conf.sample patch Message-Id: <464A3D56-AEB6-429A-9CF8-C5B477A391EF@adamw.org> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:14:35 -0400 To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:14:45 -0000 Hi, The nginx.conf.sample code sample creates errors on modern nginx. It = just needs a simple reformatting. https://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/poudriere-nginx.patch I tried to make an account on fossil.etoilebsd.net but I keep getting = 502 bad gateway errors. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org http://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 21:23:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB6074E8 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 21:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apnoea.adamw.org (apnoea.adamw.org [204.109.59.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 873761F7A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 21:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.192.25] (dhcp-108-170-169-12.cable.user.start.ca [108.170.169.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by apnoea.adamw.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A11DF114984 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 17:23:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Weinberger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: poudriere wiki patch Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 17:23:44 -0400 To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 21:23:48 -0000 This adds some poudriere tips to the wiki. Gives some information about = what sorts of -v VERSION options you can give, and gives step-by-step = instructions to copying an existing ports tree and jail for testing. https://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/poudriere-wiki.patch # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org http://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 01:59:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C041D755 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 01:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6D0C1E51 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 01:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s861x9DT095128 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 01:59:09 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 192922] ports-mgmt/pkg: "pkg install" raises jemalloc assertion for bitmap_get() Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 01:59:09 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports Tree X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: linimon@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Needs Triage X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: component version assigned_to product short_desc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 01:59:09 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192922 Mark Linimon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|bin |Individual Port(s) Version|11.0-CURRENT |Latest Assignee|freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org |pkg@FreeBSD.org Product|Base System |Ports Tree Summary|"pkg install" raises |ports-mgmt/pkg: "pkg |jemalloc assertion for |install" raises jemalloc |bitmap_get() |assertion for bitmap_get() --- Comment #1 from Mark Linimon --- The pkg(8) command in base is just a kickstarter. 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