From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 00:37:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C0EB7AC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 00:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2C40E4E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 00:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Cocu1q00A2XD5SV01odY0v; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 00:37:32 +0000 Received: from [21.60.229.209] ([66.87.93.209]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CodN1q00U4X1poq01odRzc; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 00:37:30 +0000 From: Allen To: Advocacy FreeBSD Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:37:25 -0400 Message-ID: <14c914f65d0.277d.49425171f56f22d4251074c8012c3090@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20150330085304.GB14538@apple.rat.burntout.org> <5519B3C0.70202@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.1.13 (build: 21020013) Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS advocacy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1428367052; bh=CmAeMCAxIa+4htcRooLEbclcbecwHzxaCHbtt6I+uxE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Date:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=iRrGM4ZA7GayZoMFqQOOy4g4+K8FcwuzCU2cW/kx9mzO4xelYYJQldzSU0w6gdnF3 KM1u6O8EYv7MGTUyE4keRbnq+S/WVXWHOJ4ddgiAg6KJGVzfGQE3CoWoCQPCX1rvoE tflfclwrwbKfTruUYEyNW2KJkFFGFKuNDr7nW8GYaIuc+27aMUy+Z3Yi9Mu393Ws6y vyQNWgM3AQWf3dNflUIwiCA6wE2pWKpM6oiAD8KexxwbvTuuCkn+9+8fQr3TNTxPYy 5yPq174aL6f3Vj5SlNAn3d+q50TZ5rvDBPqm+CFuhtYDWblWM9AJCBnUNr7WcKmreB Q9Bme5xQxaQfg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 00:37:35 -0000 > You could also try contacting iX directly. If your company likes > proprietary solutions, then iX can sell you something that looks to > management like a proprietary system, even if it doesn't to the people > actually using it... Hahaha! I'm sorry to waste peoples tome with basically a giggle, but when I read that line, I just instantly had a mental image of the usual pointy haired moron managers all sitting around a boardroom table saying to one person that FreeBSD being free must have no real value, and then 5 minutes later someone showing then the same OS but with a price tag from a company and then them all shaking their heads yes in agreement because the sticker for the price tag is shiny and looks good. Lol, sorry about the basically useless reply but it brightened my day and maybe by pointing it out, it may brighten someone elses day as well. Oh, and I'm sorry if this email displays bad; I'm writing this email with my phone, and though I love AquaMail as an email client, it does have a few quirks that can be odd. For whatever it's worth to the OP; I've been using FreeBSD for a while, and I bought my first version of it, which was FreeBSD 4.0-Current, in my FreeBSD PowerPak. I was just getting into computers, and I was at Best Buy of all places with my mom, and I just happened to see it on the shelf; The FreeBSD PowerPak with FreeBSD 4.0-Current, and the book "The Compete FreeBSD". I still have the box, book, and all 10CDs :-) My next work station is going to be from iX systems, as they have some of the finest computers money can buy in my opinion. -Allen Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 05:02:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2693B0A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C905D85E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:02:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Jp4/zs4clES7E2F8o1nzrHRg0WMqlnCEjBgrHdlxcZg=; b=sg206W6ovKJ89MK/GVgELWpzSgqyC/ReJU62ZwGRRocT3X6k4KI65R1k1wY+QlUh7xwgKr2qxYIs3PyNzrS9KLkkkZvyQfcRZLfdRqPGj3kOfHP2VGCNc2ySIDRNkYq5i0DwrnfUfDvXalEzIdeVZdiVPOhCKZLb7x8K8pDWZBg=; Received: from [114.121.160.126] (port=35888 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YfgO0-0022ad-Eg; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:10:42 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:10:25 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Allen Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS advocacy Message-ID: <20150408111025.6891a6f6@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <14c914f65d0.277d.49425171f56f22d4251074c8012c3090@comcast.net> References: <20150330085304.GB14538@apple.rat.burntout.org> <5519B3C0.70202@gmail.com> <14c914f65d0.277d.49425171f56f22d4251074c8012c3090@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Advocacy FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 05:02:30 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:37:25 -0400 Allen wrote: > > > You could also try contacting iX directly. If your company likes > > proprietary solutions, then iX can sell you something that looks to > > management like a proprietary system, even if it doesn't to the > > people actually using it... > > Hahaha! I'm sorry to waste peoples tome with basically a giggle, but > when I read that line, I just instantly had a mental image of the > usual pointy haired moron managers all sitting around a boardroom > table saying to one person that FreeBSD being free must have no real > value, and then 5 minutes later someone showing then the same OS but > with a price tag from a company and then them all shaking their heads > yes in agreement because the sticker for the price tag is shiny and > looks good. Lol, sorry about the basically useless reply but it > brightened my day and maybe by pointing it out, it may brighten > someone elses day as well. a long time ago, I did some work for a e-commerce site. Huge machines with the need for a huge firewall. So, the people purchased a huge firewall which was practically a FreeBSD machine based on standard hardware. The client was happy to pay roughly ten times the price of the plain hardware. Erich