From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 9 01:47:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5629B1BCD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 01:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A00D1CBB for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 01:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Iz5rkfN7qmLb/T8XzU/mmi5/2mQiwGbxOt5KvZdKrpw=; b=d5e7cHUbyZXW0oFtU5dM2WCeJuJciVUKNAEDatfVTuGqyEwy9Wn1PYjmDiGh2wWVO33weEQcSNzPEePNXCjn3gO/BcJaXs/Ie7bLzuAD8U17dNcH714S3/2UNIoSrF/p/sudkHSh3jPC7HyAJZVHx2MPA5uFBfHCdqSfTj2h1Ko=; Received: from [114.121.135.237] (port=45724 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOFhh-002LQw-VV; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 19:47:14 -0600 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 09:47:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150809094707.69b46be1@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150808132554.634b8177.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150808110607.3f290eaa@X220.alogt.com> <20150808132554.634b8177.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 01:47:16 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:25:54 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:06:07 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > My machine was a Pentium class machine, I think not even Pentium II > > or III. > > I still have a fully functional Pentium II with 300 MHz here lightnings are here very often the end of hardware. An UPS only helps if the over-voltage comes via the power line. Network cables are here typically not even available in the shielded version. > and less than 512 MB RAM. It runs FreeBSD 5 (and a wide set of > applications) with the speed that's typically experienced on > today's state-of-the-art computers with plentycore CPUs and > Gigs of RAM and endless hard disks - but of course with today's > bloatware (or even crapware) installed. :-) I have some Raspberries. The old one can even be used as a thin client. It is not even so bad as it just has to draw the screen. Running it as a desktop also works but needs patience. Even compiling things gives some surprises. 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charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/08/2015 11:37, Lev wrote: > I want to mount an ext4 partition. For that I need the fuse.ko loaded. > I have >=20 > fusefs_load=3D"YES" >=20 > in my loader.conf, however, the module is not loaded when I reboot the > system. >=20 > I can load the module manually. After that, I can mount the filesystem.= >=20 > What am I doing wrong? If the module is called fuse.ko, then you should try: fuse_load=3D"YES" in loader.conf. 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All Rights Reserved. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 9 15:51:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E437099D17E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 15:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@icerats.de) Received: from dd13304.kasserver.com (dd13304.kasserver.com [85.13.135.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71A8A180F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 15:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@icerats.de) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p5B020DAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.2.13.174]) by dd13304.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3BE651E0453 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from falbala.localnet (falbala.rz1.convenimus.net [192.168.100.8]) by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D47D15210 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:43:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Baer To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Owncloud Client won't start Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 17:51:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4066495.ynnh8ETGqi@falbala> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.2 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p16; KDE/4.14.2; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart36902051.uePlN0959d"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 15:51:42 -0000 --nextPart36902051.uePlN0959d Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi everybody! First off, if someone thinks this discussion should be on the ports mailing- list, please let me know and I will move it there. After getting the Owncloud client installed at last[1], I promptly ran into another problem: christian@obelix:~ % owncloudcmd /usr/local/lib/libpng16.so.16: version PNG16_0 required by \ /usr/local/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5 not defined The same thing happens when I try to start the GUI-client. This is on: FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p16 amd64 With the GENERIC kernel. After torturing $SEARCHENGINE for quite a while, I had not found anything that relates to this problem in combination with owncloud. The problem does not seem to be FreeBSD-specific, because the first couple of hits I got were from people having this problem with RPM-installs (but no mention of OC). There was one account of someone with this problem on FreeBSD with Stellarium. After some further reading, I found several people who attributed this effect to problems with Qt 4/5. Most of the Software on my machine is still Qt 4 based because I set up this computer when KDE5 was not really ready for production systems. The only real solution that anyone offered (and I found) was a general pkg upgrade. The claim was that pkg install were not "agressive" enough in updating required packages und thus some packages were not updated although they should have been. I updated the system (as uname states) and the packages: root@obelix:/usr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg upgrade -n Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking for upgrades (549 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (549 candidates): 100% Checking integrity... done (4 conflicting) pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: pkg: cannot find qt4-mysql-plugin in the request pkg: cannot solve job using SAT solver Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. I have serious doubts that the mysql-plugin is the problem here. pkg complains that the same version is installed as there is on the server (both 4.8.6)[2]: This however did not get rid of the initial problem, meaning I still get the same error message. Has anyone else encountered this and found a solution? Best, Chris [1] Please don't ask, this was not my brightest moment. :-) [2] pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: dependency rule: package akonadi(r) depends on: qt4-mysql-plugin(r)qt4-mysql- plugin(l) dependency rule: package akonadi(l) depends on: qt4-mysql-plugin(r)qt4-mysql- plugin(l) upgrade rule: upgrade local qt4-mysql-plugin-4.8.6 to remote qt4-mysql- plugin-4.8.6 --nextPart36902051.uePlN0959d Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 16:46:33 -0600 From: reg@dwf.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 23:21:45 -0000 I have done what appears to be a clean install of FreeBSD 10.1, but on the 'reboot' the intel boot falls thru to the ethernet boot, as if there isn't any info in the boot block. I have tried this install on two different disks on this machine with the same results (changing the BIOS to get to the 2nd disk). There was once a copy of PCBSD running on this machine, so its got to be possible to get FreeBSD up, but I just seem to be waisting time trying to get it up. Any thoughts? I would really like to get FreeBSD up on this box. -- Reg.Clemens reg@dwf.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 03:38:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE24E9980AB for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 03:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC55FBA7 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 03:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=TVQA6nNLJWs46uo69HkvYxWw1ODNPMi4H0B3oRDYfkU=; b=iYWlBMAefNZgmAB6aqibJAcE9iuhaZp2/e7foM5XQ7k4zJd5auIZ3uUk3AB2wtuQAbhbk1pwoR+0IQaPxXZNs9klQZewHPWoGYMdBu2pw0KgCaSB/l/3+w/n2OgnDvjc71sqWIvO16E6QcZ0UA/bxfp4CqwOot8QM0QsGlq0bB8=; Received: from [114.121.128.63] (port=12176 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOduj-0014dV-1O; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 21:38:17 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:38:11 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150810113811.7b0b64cc@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150809175301.GA37331@neutralgood.org> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150808110607.3f290eaa@X220.alogt.com> <20150808132554.634b8177.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150809094707.69b46be1@X220.alogt.com> <20150809175301.GA37331@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 03:38:25 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:53:01 -0400 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 09:47:07AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:25:54 +0200 > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:06:07 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > My machine was a Pentium class machine, I think not even > > > > Pentium II or III. > > > > > > I still have a fully functional Pentium II with 300 MHz here > > > > lightnings are here very often the end of hardware. An UPS only > > helps if the over-voltage comes via the power line. Network cables > > are here typically not even available in the shielded version. > > You could buy some of those converters that go from copper to fiber > ethernet with a matching converter on the other end. If a power surge > manages to make it through the fiber optic cable then you have bigger > problems. > > Just make sure you don't plug the two converters into the same surge > protector. I live some times in an area with one of the highest lightning activities world-wide. The external lines are well protected but i.e. a lightning hits nearby burned both the devices on one cable. The cable was inside the house. The lightning hit the neighbour's house. The only thing which would help here are shielded network cables. This why wireless is a success also for static connections here. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 04:33:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DCA998E52 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C3851FE8 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.170] (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21E37620A0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:32:50 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SOLVED] Re: gvfs mount locations - configuration? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55B60500.5050102@herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: Da Rock Message-ID: <55C82970.2020101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:32:48 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55B60500.5050102@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:33:01 -0000 Ok, this was a bit of tricky one. Apparently there is some confusion over fuse's role in the GIO/GVFS env. GIO doesn't need fuse to mount dirrectories as such - fuse handles that all on its own. GIO uses fuse to create a mountpoint that non GIO/GVFS apps can use to access a remote location like sshfs, webdav, smb, etc. So when you login to a remote location GIO uses dbus to provide access to GVFS aware apps, and it also calls gvfsd-fuse (not gvfs-fuse-daemon - another point of confusion both on the web and in the man pages) to create a mountpoint and allow the other apps to access it over the dbus as well. Clear as mud? :) HTH someone else... On 27/07/2015 20:16, Da Rock wrote: > Hi guys, just a quickie. > > I'm trying to use the new (for me anyway) features available using > gio/gvfs like remote file servers, but not all programs can access > them (I'm looking at you, firefox!). > > Apparently I'm looking for the mounts under ~/.gvfs but there is > nothing there. My searches mention gvfs-fuse-daemon, but that doesn't > appear to be on my system either. > > Not sure where to look - gvfsd seems to be operating correctly, > gvfs-tree shows up the mount; ran a find based on the info looked for > *.mount to no avail. > > Anyone know the answer to this? Config files somewhere? > > TIA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 05:17:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DC899DA15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x236.google.com (mail-ig0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7C796EA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by igbij6 with SMTP id ij6so62819052igb.1 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MRSuLbdXupYRayEbo8aFQwk4Fn6aPH7FLM5qlpdOvBw=; b=HEvi1Bdb2r4XfieBoCw5AZQVuW8pCFl8tvnflGP+LWFnxHA75mMzmMYKv9yHKyzqNQ xuBe4Q+scJWP+qKJqjizP67EXf6sjpkPh/iGBlmNYRXUxhUUETdUomNSbOYnQmExFsVY OpyDxOQvnAbzNEg4ws+hMcrpdVopC89pVehv/+QquFly7Dgih4irSGAWQdcfcEkQS4FQ JBVkAfzV+nlbSk/PoVTEyf6HjbFzWmD2eVhpYV8a2rHGmX0zXmIXxLQ07QlLREd+rATC 37SMqmxp1uASZm7OqtvGrf3VxaW5J2UPmkAodlQyJ0pfnkfO4VPpDwKeIF3mQ/y4oJqy WLZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.61.144 with SMTP id p16mr8728402igr.22.1439183819224; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.133 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:16:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane From: Adrian Chadd To: Warren Block Cc: Patrick Hess , Anthony Campbell , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:17:00 -0000 Hi! Why isn't this the default behaviour for the saned package? Would it be possible to make it just be said default behaviour? -a On 6 August 2015 at 14:15, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Patrick Hess wrote: > >> Anthony Campbell wrote: >>> >>> Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? >> >> >> In contrast to what many other people might suggest, I'm personally not >> a big fan of providing users broad access to all kinds of device nodes. >> So instead of messing around with permissions, I prefer to make use of >> the saned(8) network daemon. >> >> This is actually pretty straightforward to set up. You'll need to add >> these two lines to your /etc/rc.conf: >> >> saned_enable="YES" >> saned_uid="root" >> >> Now either reboot the machine or run the following command to start >> the network daemon right away: >> >> # service saned start >> >> Then add the following line to /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf: >> >> localhost >> >> Any non-privileged user should now be able to access the scanner. >> For starters, try to get a list of scanners available on the server: >> >> > scanimage -L >> device `net:localhost:plustek:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen1.2' >> is a Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 flatbed scanner >> >> The nice part about using saned(8) is that you can easily make the >> scanner available to other machines on the network. Just add your >> network to the server's /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf and then >> add an entry for the server to the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf >> on each of the clients. > > > This is the kind of stuff we should be adding to the Handbook section on > scanners. Thank you for posting it! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 08:11:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9AD998181 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com (mail-io0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02FD0B09 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by ioeg141 with SMTP id g141so162158573ioe.3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:11:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7JrQrlR4KrYqig+rONKSZ4WFIEpU8FUGouVe3WwneDQ=; b=IfcuQilFpF11O7DqmpIJ7erE17FUmvzSQmnG1GxEPcrmWBKZNJDv75hEzcP6WHPlI7 ZIgcjCwzoyPCs9qQB2yiUSOVMhVbijlOjD8/EFUo+t/pA0ORSEV10tdUlrrYAMmKp5tN NwZCReUSHttt4uDs0O36ps4CPcg6csBlycNdfGyX4oD0HYxEkje2B+7TUNTQpdDDovmG xT4P4F785Yk2f4y8EzmYqK0QdJwJNxcfA9fX731ytyR5RTFFu96LMVLn+FHU6ztc3irM z/UsHw2cck09h3YHu/3mvkyv0+4r+4x59XcQ+6hNTJsuXpW/aWCmUJJ6K83gg7QRynC4 xaeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.130.153 with SMTP id m25mr12983311ioi.192.1439194287332; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.15.33 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:11:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:11:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Warren Block , Anthony Campbell , Patrick Hess , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:11:28 -0000 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi! > > Why isn't this the default behaviour for the saned package? Would it > be possible to make it just be said default behaviour? > > > -a > > > When KDE or Gnome is running , or whatever reason some of their facilities are running during a GUI set up , permissions defined in OS level are prevented for ordinary "user" level . When "user" needs to use some facilities , permitted for the "root" and "user" with respect to loader.conf , or rc.conf , or other *.conf files , also it is necessary to define them in PolicyKit or other *Kit configuration files . Mostly these files are implicitly "secret" because , there was a circular referencing for them : In Handbook , "see KDE/GNOME sites" , from KDE/GNOME sites "see your OS documentation" without any visible information about them . In Linux , OS and these parts are synchrony in distributions because *Kit part are completing missing parts of OS . In FreeBSD , these *Kit's are only preventing facilities alrady present in OS . This situation is making FreeBSD very hard to use . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > On 6 August 2015 at 14:15, Warren Block wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Patrick Hess wrote: > > > >> Anthony Campbell wrote: > >>> > >>> Should I modify the permissions on /dev/ugen0.2? > >> > >> > >> In contrast to what many other people might suggest, I'm personally not > >> a big fan of providing users broad access to all kinds of device nodes. > >> So instead of messing around with permissions, I prefer to make use of > >> the saned(8) network daemon. > >> > >> This is actually pretty straightforward to set up. You'll need to add > >> these two lines to your /etc/rc.conf: > >> > >> saned_enable="YES" > >> saned_uid="root" > >> > >> Now either reboot the machine or run the following command to start > >> the network daemon right away: > >> > >> # service saned start > >> > >> Then add the following line to /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf: > >> > >> localhost > >> > >> Any non-privileged user should now be able to access the scanner. > >> For starters, try to get a list of scanners available on the server: > >> > >> > scanimage -L > >> device `net:localhost:plustek:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen1.2' > >> is a Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 flatbed scanner > >> > >> The nice part about using saned(8) is that you can easily make the > >> scanner available to other machines on the network. Just add your > >> network to the server's /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf and then > >> add an entry for the server to the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf > >> on each of the clients. > > > > > > This is the kind of stuff we should be adding to the Handbook section on > > scanners. Thank you for posting it! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 15:19:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D643099D7A2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmmv@meroh.net) Received: from mail-qk0-f181.google.com (mail-qk0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99B0A313 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmmv@meroh.net) Received: by qkcs67 with SMTP id s67so36911063qkc.1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=XwHyYKG7IxfU0FxBKSYASUYwIUOyySONjrVboCHFLo8=; b=R2rlx98Aj9CgXeDLpT7avZP/HQ2YBUwK0WcSAv+CZJU1hjVeYs77rzVGO+LnvITjtw pDixSVKUkHAnDlQ/kequlqsh9vsKe/mMJXRenBFA9+z+Hk6/oVjzJnWkZEv9Nswqh7Gd d0qoKFqrhK7JheUCf1UZdaxKUk/KW70Iq7rTZyqWBXowSYmpZ8kI1/C5UIDA6wOlkiog 0nqW9YNjTZbAqT62eJvoKLTSOaLZN+CCK4+oWqnHryW/nMDq/xzF01/L0/hwhgFTw8xj kkMg/WNtHYDVvt7PvkAr6odB/y2dsHhTCZf1PrDpXEBlNhTa6fLu3SGTvIggB8FxrDeL 1Q8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl3UaYBVjqRVIIH7vY1gzZufu2zwgdTeAGZBgmoaTGKPJ2mT4F2+MbjzkP5Iicthjb2vyII X-Received: by 10.55.22.220 with SMTP id 89mr39291825qkw.74.1439219574427; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (cpe-24-90-142-167.nyc.res.rr.com. [24.90.142.167]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t77sm9997596qge.42.2015.08.10.08.12.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Julio Merino From: Julio Merino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Poor I/O performance; maybe ZFS? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:12:52 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:19:41 -0000 Hello, I have a PowerMac G5 running 11.0-CURRENT (upgraded yesterday). The = machine is a dual-CPU 2GHz G5 with 6GB of RAM and two drives: ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target = 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-6 SATA 1.x device ada0: Serial Number 3JS478VL ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1 at ata3 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA8-ACS SATA 2.x device ada1: Serial Number WD-WMASY2696897 ada1: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: 610480MB (1250263728 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) I have a UFS file system on ada0s4 for / and a ZFS pool on ada1s2 with = file systems for /home and poudriere. For a while, I have felt that the system is incredibly sluggish. For = example, a simple "make buildworld" with up-to-date obj, which should be = I/O bound, takes forever (something like 20-30 minutes). This is = running with src and obj on ZFS. "svn update" is similarly = infuriatingly slow. Today, I decided to install bonnie and ran a couple of tests using "-s = 4096". -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- = --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- = --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU = /sec %CPU ada0 4196 43973 62.4 46207 37.7 43259 41.9 89210 96.8 280589 95.9 = 17038.2 103.1 tank 4196 54093 72.2 27596 93.0 21478 90.7 64214 83.5 65358 50.8 = 126.7 3.7 Note the vast difference on the numbers, especially random seeks. In case this matters, this is how ada1s2 looks like: 1. Name: ada1s2 Mediasize: 640135019520 (596G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 9216 Mode: r1w1e1 rawtype: FreeBSD-ZFS label: 1 length: 640135019520 offset: 9216 type: freebsd-zfs index: 1 end: 1250263727 start: 18 Any obvious things I should look at? Thank you!= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 15:56:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EBC99E031 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A775969 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t7AFuJrd023572 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:56:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t7AFuIVN023569; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:56:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:56:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Adrian Chadd cc: Patrick Hess , Anthony Campbell , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:56:20 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:56:43 -0000 On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Why isn't this the default behaviour for the saned package? Would it > be possible to make it just be said default behaviour? Running a network daemon rather than just changing permissions? That's probably why. Can't say what the problem is for the OP, but I know for a fact that it works with the permissions right. My 1640SU has been in use for years that way. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 15:58:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C17399E0B6 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1CFB1B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t7AFwARj066987 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:58:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t7AFwARj066987 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t7AFwARj066987; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Subject: Re: Poor I/O performance; maybe ZFS? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55C8CA11.4030906@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:58:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fr17XCTH47WVbBc75g5eW03iiD8WKExDn" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --fr17XCTH47WVbBc75g5eW03iiD8WKExDn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/10/15 16:12, Julio Merino wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a PowerMac G5 running 11.0-CURRENT (upgraded yesterday). The ma= chine is a dual-CPU 2GHz G5 with 6GB of RAM and two drives: >=20 > ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target= 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-6 SATA 1.x device > ada0: Serial Number 3JS478VL > ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada1 at ata3 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 > ada1: ATA8-ACS SATA 2.x device > ada1: Serial Number WD-WMASY2696897 > ada1: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: 610480MB (1250263728 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) >=20 > I have a UFS file system on ada0s4 for / and a ZFS pool on ada1s2 with = file systems for /home and poudriere. >=20 > For a while, I have felt that the system is incredibly sluggish. For > example, a simple "make buildworld" with up-to-date obj, which should b= e > I/O bound, takes forever (something like 20-30 minutes). This is runnin= g > with src and obj on ZFS. "svn update" is similarly infuriatingly slow. Beware: 'svn update' is frequently limited by network bandwidth, so not really a good test of your filesystems. > Today, I decided to install bonnie and ran a couple of tests using "-s = 4096". >=20 > -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --= Random-- > -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --= Seeks--- > Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /= sec %CPU > ada0 4196 43973 62.4 46207 37.7 43259 41.9 89210 96.8 280589 95.9 1= 7038.2 103.1 > tank 4196 54093 72.2 27596 93.0 21478 90.7 64214 83.5 65358 50.8 12= 6.7 3.7 >=20 > Note the vast difference on the numbers, especially random seeks. >=20 > In case this matters, this is how ada1s2 looks like: >=20 > 1. Name: ada1s2 > Mediasize: 640135019520 (596G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Stripesize: 0 > Stripeoffset: 9216 > Mode: r1w1e1 > rawtype: FreeBSD-ZFS > label: 1 > length: 640135019520 > offset: 9216 > type: freebsd-zfs > index: 1 > end: 1250263727 > start: 18 >=20 > Any obvious things I should look at? 6GB is not a great deal when we're talking ZFS. For a mixed read/write workload like compiling, ZFS is going to be working its read cache 'ARC' pretty hard. It's also going to be competing with the traditional buffer cache for the available memory. Try installing 'zfs-stats' from ports and look at the output of 'zfs-stats -A' and 'zfs-stats -E' for clues. You should also *limit* the amount of memory ZFS can dedicate to the ARC -- counter intuitive, but memory dedicated to ARC is memory that the compiler (for instance) cannot be using. I'd be looking at setting vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D"3G" in /boot/loader.conf were I in your shoes -- or possibly even less. Whatever you do, you aren't going to get stellar ZFS performance out of a machine with that small an amount of memory, and pushing all the iops through a single SATA-1 drive, but these sort of measures should at least improve things. Beyond that there's a bunch of settings you can fiddle with documented he= re: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs-advanced.html https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide Cheers, Matthew PS. poudriere doesn't actually need ZFS nowadays. --fr17XCTH47WVbBc75g5eW03iiD8WKExDn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVyMoRAAoJEABRPxDgqeTn7BkP/3skqn3rJ8o7NeF7spusHjEO TGznllG+KOJ3YjpC++uN0G3I5dDzblrpMNmx0VJFMY8IwuYnHd68zGSI/+epUG6h ucGLKihLAyEXz3CLAuQ4gaRpi9qRBP1ZRHTMyEGau/ayKFms7+wmxwlv49W7avDR rCD6Y8+rsY0eDgBMgqN1meuKz5wcVPNs0jBMwtN1b4DbATzU4QVLxpBqo3Mdjkp+ 8wZIw/i7E02Ugv6WbcxWRQlOQmsh1XIRaIdVX5ywIRAsPTVZHwni2sw0e7hwVL2S QBa2vamC13aSS/4aUeybMJ5Jr00oaQ56r5ctpPNuZAbmdhfMdPmyOLe7Kkg6dW9h IYvLu0+nfHUllmp7iFze3mszFLyGNDcguxCv3jIX9U+okFjTohXTzyeQhs9OGX5a Ll2aaRAkPYuDAQpIV2G++bvOVA6BTovhzMoaszJzN/pYB4OvpoD2DdZXm1AmVgea YDBWM0wYfFo1LEmlpGjN3g+pTR9L2Mx0S1W2jpJKo605DoQPE7aB0TvwOXJ8tUSW SkBgxRyXOo7BXPCpXEhUc/3+3wBYGEMbswWb77B0aTNZ9mR3ECE25NWs8SsWztkh aY4/VCKNU3mxTP7NWi5ABdbpg6CYTHEAtODrHtSBlba4mgEUYKWVi5bUYCfZQHTV pF8+jBJh/WW1eC33ZCs0 =42sZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fr17XCTH47WVbBc75g5eW03iiD8WKExDn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 16:13:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ABB99E45F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from mail.eskimo.com (mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9364319 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from shellx.eskimo.com (shellx.eskimo.com [204.122.16.2]) by mail.eskimo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FB458A; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by shellx.eskimo.com (Postfix, from userid 51518) id EC15C2F70; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:10:33 -0700 From: Joseph Olatt To: reg@dwf.com Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Can't boot FreeBSD. Message-ID: <20150810161033.GA23097@eskimo.com> References: <201508092246.t79MkXmO001514@deneb.dwf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201508092246.t79MkXmO001514@deneb.dwf.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mail.eskimo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:13:39 -0000 On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 04:46:33PM -0600, reg@dwf.com wrote: > > I have done what appears to be a clean install of FreeBSD 10.1, > but on the 'reboot' the intel boot falls thru to the ethernet > boot, as if there isn't any info in the boot block. > > I have tried this install on two different disks on this machine > with the same results (changing the BIOS to get to the 2nd disk). > > There was once a copy of PCBSD running on this machine, so its > got to be possible to get FreeBSD up, but I just seem to be > waisting time trying to get it up. > > Any thoughts? > I would really like to get FreeBSD up on this box. Could be a couple of issues here: (1) MBR does not contain boot0 image, like you said. (2) BIOS is not seeing the hard disks. For #1, I would try the "automatic partionting" (or whatever that is called). If that is what you were using, then wonder why MBR is not getting written out. For #1 & #2, I would try a quick install with another OS (like OpenBSD or Linux) to see if the behavior is different. If the other OS boots up then you could focus on why MBR is not getting populated. 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From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201508092246.t79MkXmO001514@deneb.dwf.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:40:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9300850F-0654-4531-ADE3-EA28D96ADA8E@kraus-haus.org> References: <201508092246.t79MkXmO001514@deneb.dwf.com> To: reg@dwf.com, FreeBSD questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:40:14 -0000 On Aug 9, 2015, at 18:46, reg@dwf.com wrote: > I have done what appears to be a clean install of FreeBSD 10.1, > but on the 'reboot' the intel boot falls thru to the ethernet > boot, as if there isn't any info in the boot block. By clean install I assume you mean you went through the installer = process to it=92s completion. What did you choose for disk layout (UFS, ZFS, or manual) ?=20 If you used the manual option you may have missed a step to install the = boot loader. Take a look at the man page for gpart and the section on = BOOTSTRAPPING here = https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dgpart&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0&= manpath=3DFreeBSD+10.1-RELEASE&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml and the = examples at the end. > I have tried this install on two different disks on this machine > with the same results (changing the BIOS to get to the 2nd disk). I had an older system that would not boot with a GPT partition, I had to = use an MBR partition (I was using ZFS for boot drive). I have also had others report that they needed to set the BIOS to Legacy = for SATA controllers instead of AHCI in some cases. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 17:06:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD6E99E141 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784DF6B8 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.1.230] (host-78-148-104-98.as13285.net [78.148.104.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t7AGgJGn039959 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:42:27 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host host-78-148-104-98.as13285.net [78.148.104.98] claimed to be [192.168.1.230] Subject: Re: Can't boot FreeBSD. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201508092246.t79MkXmO001514@deneb.dwf.com> From: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: <55C8D46B.9090004@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:42:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201508092246.t79MkXmO001514@deneb.dwf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:06:03 -0000 On 09/08/2015 23:46, reg@dwf.com wrote: > I have done what appears to be a clean install of FreeBSD 10.1, > but on the 'reboot' the intel boot falls thru to the ethernet > boot, as if there isn't any info in the boot block. > > I have tried this install on two different disks on this machine > with the same results (changing the BIOS to get to the 2nd disk). > > There was once a copy of PCBSD running on this machine, so its > got to be possible to get FreeBSD up, but I just seem to be > waisting time trying to get it up. > > Any thoughts? > I would really like to get FreeBSD up on this box. hitting f11 or equivalent for your bios to get to the boot menu, and trying to select boot disks manually may be worth a try -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- High Specification Dedicated Servers from £100.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 17:39:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9270699E964 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32CBDC61 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CF8F2780F; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7AHd6mE002094; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:39:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:39:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-Id: <20150810193906.dfad0829.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:39:15 -0000 On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:11:27 -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > When KDE or Gnome is running , or whatever reason some of their facilities > are running during a GUI set up , permissions defined in OS level are > prevented for ordinary "user" level . In many cases those also require HAL and DBUS running. HAL has been deprecated in Linux long time ago, and is slowly fading out of the ported applications in FreeBSD. I assume DBUS will join its fate. Both will probably be replaced by Linux kernel mechanisms which are not present on FreeBSD. > When "user" needs to use some facilities , permitted for the "root" and > "user" with respect to loader.conf , or rc.conf , or other *.conf files , > also it is necessary to define them in PolicyKit or other *Kit > configuration files . That's right. Even though HAL and DBUS claimed to be "the tools" to enable those typical single-user settings, they often are not. Device recognition, automount, device access (permissions) and so on often don't work as expected because one of the many moving parts isn't moving as intended. > Mostly these files are implicitly "secret" because , there was a circular > referencing for them : > In Handbook , "see KDE/GNOME sites" , from KDE/GNOME sites "see your OS > documentation" > without any visible information about them . That's what I often call "Linux documentation mentality". I don't want to sound impolite, but due to the fact that GNU/Linux is very diverse because of the many distributions and their incompatibilities, documentation is scattered across the web: project pages, distro pages, user pages, wikis, discussion forums. "Just look there!" Sometimes I tend to say that documentation in this case is even useless: When the documentation is completed, it doesn't match the software it documents anymore. And when it has caught up to the latest version, the software is obsoletet - and even better: replaced by something that nobody wrote documentation about. "Leave it to the users. They can figure out how it works, and write documentation when they feel they need it." Or even worse: "This works without configuration, so no documentation is needed.", except it doesn't work, but who cares. :-/ This problem (or let's at least say: some issues) is often found in regards of: - wireless networking configuration - system configuration in general - scanners - printers - scanprinters - scanfaxprintercatfooddispenser - cameras (webcams) - USB mobile Internet - other consumer cheap-crap USB devices On FreeBSD, many of those devices work if the configuration has been adapted properly. But there are devices that do not want to work... > In Linux , OS and these parts are synchrony in distributions because *Kit > part are completing missing parts of OS . The distribution maintainers who create a specific Linux version tend to make sure their parts integrate well. So it's not a big deal to get something working when the preinstalled configuration is being used. For example, a distro uses KDE - everything works. Want to use Gnome or Xfce? Problems appear. This is because Linux does not have a distinction between "the OS" and "everything else" as FreeBSD has, where the OS is developed by the FreeBSD team, and the ported applications are being maintained by different people. > In FreeBSD , these *Kit's are only preventing facilities alrady present in > OS . Even though many Linux programs claim to be interoperable, they are often only interoperable in the range of Linux, not "Linux and UNIX and the like" (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris and so on). Development becomes more and more Linux-centric, which provides better software quality for Linux, but makes FreeBSD users suffer. The interoperability claim would suggest that a service that on Linux uses Linux mechanisms, would use FreeBSD mechanisms when run on FreeBSD. But it does not. It expects the Linux mechanisms to be present on FreeBSD. Sure, the Linux ABI is a great thing, but the FreeBSD kernel isn't the Linux kernel. As soon as kernel facilities become involved, goals will get harder to achieve. This is a massive problem with the huge dependency pyramid ("bloat") of modern mainstream software. > This situation is making FreeBSD very hard to use . Depends. If you want to use Gnome or KDE, you have to "fight the OS". You need to tear down intended (!) barriers manually. You need to sacrifice a bit of security in order to gain comfortability. This is not impossible, but it's _work_ that has to be done. Those security barriers make perfectly sense on a server or a workstation. Do you want to mount an USB stick r/w when inserted, so anybody can start copying your files? Do you want a DVD to autoplay when you insert it - because you want to copy some files from it, _later_? Do you want r/w access to a hard disk that you will be trying to do data recovery from? Do you want your computer to automatically connect to a WLAN so it can start sending unencrypted data? Or access to the the webcam view? All those questions might be answered "Yes! Do it now!" for a typical home PC where security doesn't matter. "I don't have anything to hide." However, you _can_ get things fully working, using _native_ FreeBSD means - but that often implies you cannot achieve the same level of integration as you'll find on Linux. It's important to summarize that FreeBSD and Linux are different operating systems. That nothing in the comparison of "good vs. bad", it is simply a difference worth acknowledging to prevent unrealistic expectations. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 17:52:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB099EC8A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@pk1048.com) Received: from cpanel61.fastdnsservers.com (server61.fastdnsservers.com [216.51.232.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4963CB for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@pk1048.com) Received: from mail.thecreativeadvantage.com ([96.236.20.34]:61924 helo=mbp-1.thecreativeadvantage.com) by cpanel61.fastdnsservers.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOrF1-002k5j-1t; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:52:07 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane From: PK1048 In-Reply-To: <20150810193906.dfad0829.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:52:05 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <50F74B75-BD28-43B8-BBE8-67AE24C8523A@pk1048.com> References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> <20150810193906.dfad0829.freebsd@edvax.de> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel61.fastdnsservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pk1048.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cpanel61.fastdnsservers.com: authenticated_id: info@pk1048.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:52:08 -0000 On Aug 10, 2015, at 13:39, Polytropon wrote: > It's important to summarize that FreeBSD and Linux are different > operating systems. That nothing in the comparison of "good vs. bad", > it is simply a difference worth acknowledging to prevent unrealistic > expectations. :-) I would hasten to add that each has their strengths and weaknesses. I = like to say that I am OS Agnostic, not that I think the OS does not = matter, but that I choose the OS based on the job I need to get done. = For example, for many of the reasons listed, I would choose Linux as the = OS for a Unix-Like Workstation over FreeBSD or Solaris/Illumos even = though I think that both the FreeBSD and Solaris kernels are _much_ = stronger kernels. But, the vast majority of Unix-Like Desktop utilities = and environments are developed _for_ Linux so they run better in that = environment. On the other hand, unless and application requires Linux, I = tend to prefer FreeBSD for servers. Each has their place and using the _correct_ OS for the task at hand can = make the task easier to accomplish and (possibly) more reliable. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 11 17:32:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4E099F1CA for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D14C1A53 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPDPm-0001O5-Lf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:32:42 +0200 Received: from 5e1bc21c.mobile.pool.telekom.hu ([94.27.194.28]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:32:42 +0200 Received: from leventelist by 5e1bc21c.mobile.pool.telekom.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:32:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Lev Subject: Re: fuse.ko Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:32:36 +0200 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <20150811193236.333b2162@jive.levalinux.org> References: <20150809123729.70dd6259@jive.levalinux.org> <55C730A2.9030507@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 5e1bc21c.mobile.pool.telekom.hu X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:32:54 -0000 PiBJZiB0aGUgbW9kdWxlIGlzIGNhbGxlZCBmdXNlLmtvLCB0aGVuIHlvdSBzaG91bGQgdHJ5Og0K PiANCj4gZnVzZV9sb2FkPSJZRVMiDQo+IA0KPiBpbiBsb2FkZXIuY29uZi4NCg0KT2ssIEkgdHJ5 IHRoYXQsIHRoYW5rcyENCg0KTGV2DQogDQoNCg0KLS0gDQo3MyBkZSBIQTVPR0wNCk9wLjogTGV2 ZW50ZQ0K From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 11 19:08:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A90099F708 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA4ACF3 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3CAB399F707; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5D099F706 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22f.google.com (mail-lb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B39B2CF2 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by lbbtg9 with SMTP id tg9so12137378lbb.1 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m1CXgN64CYWYkEF40ixYme56p2LzKtmhiENf+5cx2kA=; b=Hx5rq0D3U35woJqb7ncpoK/NX3IPo/R63urU3mvVMbh+nMQ56G4yDwD64LQcGpvfbL XPmgzyX8O1yvMJ9caSSEmIFXR2VENiuJGWomzx4bWcB6j/8PuwJq124N7kzXjuFTRNuw Srbb3p7v2Qs3SbTSdXATjf25peYqAZOHcLIWP1CuwZfsp6y50l5HNTlhj91R0ROrwuQM SF1BkoCAZ2L8AA0MxeRE4+iraZ62rZD+GNBl/gm2weP7Wd+kHBDYzm7CWpubkhtqlztt sQcpaiAD8CBaMskqrH36Ye7uvxyj67PDCRz6TqwSvWO4yPI0aw8uoSVz/rO64lW2GDi7 eYCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.147.8 with SMTP id tg8mr27853480lbb.62.1439320106406; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.16.218 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:08:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: firefox core-dump on 10.1-RELEASE? From: pete wright To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:08:29 -0000 Hi, I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has observed this behaviour? If not I will attempt to get a debug build created locally and try to reproduce the fault. Here's my info: > uname -ar && pkg info |grep firefox FreeBSD pop.rubicorp.com 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 firefox-40.0,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla Cheers, -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org @nomadlogicLA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 11 20:36:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA55099FCC9 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5A4118 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9990A99FCC8; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9925B99FCC6 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 672F1117 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by igui7 with SMTP id i7so48622112igu.1 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:36:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=N9wwd6PbXmV0W76yz7GKpTFHmi4yMRlD4Y/FxWVnMO4=; b=myZPRqOk/nb0EO7SEBvts/ToVLNuwU9H+PzzxKHvIIZKyDv/e8mbuUX5TVwhNrXYlN dMf1HMLzBMnawI5yQtMsq+fTTLBcMQezYncu9L5/Z8HSnF+Sn63dkuK4m5vEFVXBBZ8N k2Z5BCCESkFMzIBc8qYrSF9OcVcHER+XOF7JwZ71DdVQna6Vig7O/TFYcG8GrC0XQqb/ X1AWiu3jn+PdaTQ1spso8J5E9FeH4eTV9pl1OUuuFDsvY1N3iLzDQnQ/zY6raGCXCbAq Kf1EST0AiETioO/oguSJQDhxFA/3WnFV3q7ZsUx6/DoNwnUn7ux2Ql8VsUtTpUSCbJw3 P9Qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.21.10 with SMTP id r10mr21418706ige.94.1439325382753; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.14.151 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:36:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:36:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: firefox core-dump on 10.1-RELEASE? From: jungle Boogie To: pete wright Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:36:23 -0000 Hi Peter, On 11 August 2015 at 12:08, pete wright wrote: > Hi, > I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and > now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has > observed this behaviour? If not I will attempt to get a debug build > created locally and try to reproduce the fault. Here's my info: > >> uname -ar && pkg info |grep firefox > FreeBSD pop.rubicorp.com 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: > Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > firefox-40.0,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > You may have seen this tweet already: https://twitter.com/karinjiri/status/630853867786256384 I'm just the messenger with no report to offer of its success rate. > > Cheers, > -pete > > -- > pete wright > www.nycbug.org > @nomadlogicLA -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 11 20:58:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F57F99F0CB for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A0FBC8 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7FDC499F0C9; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6F499F0C6 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x234.google.com (mail-lb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09BACBC7 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by lbcbn3 with SMTP id bn3so26054092lbc.2 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zYL4GeekVoHd1G3xVq38Ff51iXf83MCxzn1Bou2rMeg=; b=05UEM7qqKG+uoHSRsZMZnSdZgutZCTBTBrYBpOs1aqirMxOTLhtSSA2EB5yUJFmJXP M4F8ggxNMJPnIuwKTt98kZ18A65miugQAHa+6bro8C/fCaZqDWOkErb//m3KUnbXw9M4 8T6nmOH73cNjq2KFk7agLUSLNqXgni2sKNjSdS4zzwcB1B6nqQ48arLYKqGLKfaMaWJ/ j6ZjXFQomzSsxGsdhYAMc9K3FXvAMRgUj16dsKYx2ODN19xyRUclF0Yx7xRLQU5wTSNK U3efSxzJile3zjnUp4XnJ9gET8dkP+gedVX98Icz9JI2LMFwtSKKKJHmcBAIFOiaQLPD U0dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.219.165 with SMTP id pp5mr28878892lbc.23.1439326720130; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.16.218 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:58:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: firefox core-dump on 10.1-RELEASE? From: pete wright To: jungle Boogie Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:58:42 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:36 PM, jungle Boogie wrote: > Hi Peter, > On 11 August 2015 at 12:08, pete wright wrote: >> Hi, >> I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and >> now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has >> observed this behaviour? If not I will attempt to get a debug build >> created locally and try to reproduce the fault. Here's my info: >> >>> uname -ar && pkg info |grep firefox >> FreeBSD pop.rubicorp.com 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: >> Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> firefox-40.0,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla >> > > You may have seen this tweet already: > https://twitter.com/karinjiri/status/630853867786256384 > > I'm just the messenger with no report to offer of its success rate. thanks - just set it now, keeping fingers crossed! cheers, -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org @nomadlogicLA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 11 23:45:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B37899F84B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A651CFB1 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 3bjk1r00D07iGuj01bjlkJ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:43:46 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A019112429; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:43:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:43:44 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Warren Block Cc: Adrian Chadd , Patrick Hess , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150811234344.GA82089@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , Adrian Chadd , Patrick Hess , FreeBSD Questions References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:45:00 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 09:56:18AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Adrian Chadd wrote: >=20 > > Why isn't this the default behaviour for the saned package? Would it > > be possible to make it just be said default behaviour? >=20 > Running a network daemon rather than just changing permissions? That's= =20 > probably why. Can't say what the problem is for the OP, but I know for= =20 > a fact that it works with the permissions right. My 1640SU has been in= =20 > use for years that way. Same here with an old 1650. Works fine with the permissions on ugen set properly. 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Message-ID: <20150812002205.GB82089@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:22:10 -0000 --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:08:26PM -0700, pete wright wrote: > Hi, > I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and > now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has > observed this behaviour? If not I will attempt to get a debug build > created locally and try to reproduce the fault. Here's my info: Yep, more people have noticed it. > > uname -ar && pkg info |grep firefox > FreeBSD pop.rubicorp.com 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: > Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > firefox-40.0,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla A temporary fix is implemented in 40.0_1,1; it works pretty well; have only had one crash since. But today the port was updated to 40.0_2,1, and 40.0_3,1 which failed to li= nk for me. It seems that firefox is once again churning a little bit, as it sometimes does. Since firefox is quite a big build, I tend to make a package of the install= ed version before upgrading, so I can always go back if it works. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVypGtAAoJEED21dyjijPgkJkP/R/jLZsWdEn/IePYJewCTCWU bUukBrG9jwaZFe9C40EMSDxwI9dpA/pfuRSGKcEHOSxFBDnAbXMAuB1PmIwNI3Ei liHQ/ql8ImHpdXZfVGjmYOsGCgZcM3bCpNFFRlDdS8LCiMBlRPkHJpEmyy/FoiG6 Dn07TwHUxTRi8ASdPt7ebnLhqPLhUekwkT90R3ajl59euqgn4L5FLa590EMxb6L5 BuI/9pA9E4+fevxapLdAQyjnZ21XXo5HDUK81z7fUXF787nWVh/qPw4e/MlUxYZs 76Htdbr0kEGDwgLwA6L0o47t6dlgleUbGhuvizmJ67GPM6/zlYjJ9D1zQwYMCvdW hXoAhard8k6gyjI8ss/QMvl+0UfwPOvkOqNcuUv/kr/q48RkEDFS/IMFfKKewMaL 5d4ZNnDQ2S/k8ZkthYs/R0y9HmmiOIvElJaINLh8c8kaRWT5bP0KucLNY0tagpoH v6eC1LXbnUJQvdT9x/xuUfW6N0LIUeBYjI1QrBsEqcqGLXW4YVWgLn8KGPmMaFeZ M9IkWs8vDI3ZCbw8qwwEYD15ANidlSp2LJC7X/006Kn3m+qgCTl5rqdEnqScLeBl Wg6oIatrsP+iLWetzdvDStqJuf79G2aIu5g/yGsCULlzV314J6mY+894cl4XkgmE FavRIxNKp5Bk3Gf0mtud =jUMW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 01:21:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890DF99E218 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677001987 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6681F99E216; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650C899E215 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC7071986 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by lalv9 with SMTP id v9so1273897lal.0 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:21:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pMMUufzn6WCeET4BsJalrfF7jCgdw0C1OHluaNdtyUo=; b=ckuWhK5tyOhTp/MJEwsIMcLra0bJwxw86XO/FpWYoThf4EJn0MkEKNO3M1E1hwm1pR vyH7JVo1m8OFlXadiq0FYRn4Rke9S1/rX9fTv5ULJBGTFhRE4ri9tuVxIQUKpeAvz9dX pDXS3XNopgUOrGRFyrddKTazqBbN+4D4cz79qHcPbdiWkFpz/xiwUDUtya2hX4d3Ru4o ThMdLy6BbVszxKmIl1zgPcRLC5bKMhZxUqdf0lehq8CsyfOQx12NB+x0cr1BDxdwhYd0 meLIWeUsPxgMN1Mb/UvbJG5xCIvtLPK8HvncCYPRTGJ8G8Vz7jbfDs3G3v8/0HwjRVD6 hVvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.161.40 with SMTP id xp8mr29435292lbb.71.1439342509816; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.16.218 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.16.218 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:21:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150812002205.GB82089@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20150812002205.GB82089@slackbox.erewhon.home> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:21:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: firefox core-dump on 10.1-RELEASE? From: pete wright To: Roland Smith Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:21:52 -0000 On Aug 11, 2015 5:22 PM, "Roland Smith" wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:08:26PM -0700, pete wright wrote: > > Hi, > > I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and > > now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has > > observed this behaviour? If not I will attempt to get a debug build > > created locally and try to reproduce the fault. Here's my info: > > Yep, more people have noticed it. > > > > uname -ar && pkg info |grep firefox > > FreeBSD pop.rubicorp.com 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: > > Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > firefox-40.0,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > A temporary fix is implemented in 40.0_1,1; it works pretty well; have only > had one crash since. > > But today the port was updated to 40.0_2,1, and 40.0_3,1 which failed to link > for me. It seems that firefox is once again churning a little bit, as it > sometimes does. > > Since firefox is quite a big build, I tend to make a package of the installed > version before upgrading, so I can always go back if it works. > Thanks Roland for the reply. Fwiw to close this thread out - here is the fix mentioned in the previous twitter "use about:config and set layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false." This has done the trick for me so far. Cheers, -pete From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 03:49:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA28099F67A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitry@pushware.net) Received: from mail.pushware.net (mail.pushware.net [198.245.177.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A9071C8 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitry@pushware.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pushware.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B557A9156B4 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pushware.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.pushware.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id bFOn29YvFPYe for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pushware.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CCA3D37B9 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:41:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pushware.net Received: from mail.pushware.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.pushware.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Aikp8VmGUxkX for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pushware.net (mail.pushware.net [10.5.2.5]) by mail.pushware.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B442A9156B4 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitry Mikhailov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1960829705.1298.1439350884619.JavaMail.zimbra@pushware.net> Subject: synproxy pps MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.5.2.5] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1178 (ZimbraWebClient - FF39 (Mac)/8.6.0_GA_1178) Thread-Topic: synproxy pps Thread-Index: Vt6YYogbPcAcxOvFGoQRxM6ZGWCBCg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:49:57 -0000 Are there any pf synproxy PPS benchmarks available? I am trying to understand what kind of SYN pps rate I can expect to be able to handle on a 10GE port with modern Xeon? Something like this chart would be very useful: https://r00t-services.net/knowledgebase/14/Homemade-DDoS-Protection-Using-IPTables-SYNPROXY.html Dmitry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 08:00:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C17399FC61 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176AF257 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 14B8F99FC60; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1448499FC5F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A78B5252 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by wicne3 with SMTP id ne3so207229492wic.1 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:00:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to :in-reply-to; bh=CJWoD6xfYvyJ5G69V+xp+PstwZPjVW+lnwCXc3ShB8A=; b=PeViU98lDeetKzs1kKmTI/6H8LHQJi3f6R5TcuQgYyGxECutzU3u4fCcQgyGxYtDnE VVQpxiQNmtlboqgw8qKFIOS6L4w60pcYfLWxpP0tSX4ItbLApfXx32CVNFWVM5KYj8d1 gi2cWY/IoyxdHP1wELrby90RYjB9uL6TLjHVWkFqbeFDq4wMTV2/I2eW9ATe62+EWC/b KPXdqVovrgtEmy8wtAwza2zRbF2lI7eJBBNbjvkXD94aU5S5b0jvBmiSY/uei0qsbiGi sNCBe9oIH/qYl8CTkuE5F9V0m8OZs/bZERKPmCbItKqK5adH5GqdWX/Szdk+zr4h2GMt zbFw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkPa5XQZvk7t2paWG7I2zDrcSdNx4aqJJwBtP8Qmn/jvrUPHwMWNCE+Q4OrYYJB9DqKzjNv X-Received: by 10.194.91.241 with SMTP id ch17mr21474613wjb.61.1439366029010; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bi6sm6606328wjc.25.2015.08.12.00.53.47 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t7C7rkDG067340; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:53:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t7C7rkv1067339; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:53:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:53:46 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201508120753.t7C7rkv1067339@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: nomadlogic@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox core-dump on 10.1-RELEASE? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:00:44 -0000 >I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and >now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has >observed this behaviour? yes, I see this on FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p16 with firefox-40.0,1. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 13:07:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B18899F103 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk (shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk [82.71.205.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 404DBED2 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@acampbell.uk) Received: from [88.97.55.211] (port=17216 helo=localhost) by shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPVkN-002MCt-Ba for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:07:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:07:12 +0100 From: Anthony Campbell To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Permissions problem for sane Message-ID: <20150812130712.GH29542@ithaca.acampbell.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Campbell , FreeBSD Questions References: <20150806104335.GA27748@ithaca.acampbell.uk> <1876444.Yqz8SnZpVd@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acampbell.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: shcp05.hosting.zen.net.uk: authenticated_id: ac@acampbell.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:07:26 -0000 On 10 Aug 2015, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > >Why isn't this the default behaviour for the saned package? Would it > >be possible to make it just be said default behaviour? > > Running a network daemon rather than just changing permissions? That's > probably why. Can't say what the problem is for the OP, but I know for a > fact that it works with the permissions right. My 1640SU has been in use > for years that way. Just to say that I finally got the permissions change to work. I hadn't edited /etc/rc.conf to enable the ruleset in //etc/devfs.rules. -- Anthony Campbell http://www.acampbell.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 13:21:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B6799F63B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6D498F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CE51B99F63A; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE5B99F639 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72F5F98B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t7CDCg6P083680 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:12:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: firefox core-dump on 10.1-RELEASE? References: <20150812002205.GB82089@slackbox.erewhon.home> Cc: freebsd-questions From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <55CB464A.8070707@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:12:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:25 -0000 On 12/08/2015 02:21, pete wright wrote: > On Aug 11, 2015 5:22 PM, "Roland Smith" wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:08:26PM -0700, pete wright wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I recently upgraded firefox on my 10.1-RELEASE workstation via pkg and >>> now have periodic core dumps. I was wondering if anyone else has >>> observed this behaviour? If not I will attempt to get a debug build >>> created locally and try to reproduce the fault. Here's my info: >> >> Yep, more people have noticed it. >> >>>> uname -ar && pkg info |grep firefox >>> FreeBSD pop.rubicorp.com 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: >>> Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 >>> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>> >>> firefox-40.0,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla >> >> A temporary fix is implemented in 40.0_1,1; it works pretty well; have > only >> had one crash since. >> >> But today the port was updated to 40.0_2,1, and 40.0_3,1 which failed to > link >> for me. It seems that firefox is once again churning a little bit, as it >> sometimes does. >> >> Since firefox is quite a big build, I tend to make a package of the > installed >> version before upgrading, so I can always go back if it works. >> > Thanks Roland for the reply. > > Fwiw to close this thread out - here is the fix mentioned in the previous > twitter > > "use about:config and set > layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled > to false." > > This has done the trick for me so far. Just had a crash with that change done. However, FF lasted about 6 hours, whereas it was lasting less than an hour before. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 15:39:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7A299FB61 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18879885 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t7CFcpqD017507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:38:52 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: 64-bit linux emulation question Message-ID: <55CB688B.9060307@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:44:21 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:39:13 -0000 With recent mention of docker being ported to FreeBSD & mention therein of a 64-bit linux emulation layer, does the following page from the handbook need updaing ? Just checking. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 12 16:44:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7269A0C1A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgross@nicira.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E337E6A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgross@nicira.com) Received: by lbbpu9 with SMTP id pu9so12864755lbb.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:44:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=llYZFg4yucrPnZzefUfZH3pWafyc1KWtYKLyJ40063Y=; b=fAd/apu8emC9AWHfeYITFOIB4gmMHdJzLMs1u9aA8NSbOMTHQj3zE+fxjaT20RuxVG I8JX1bLgHRAQ6oMVegTFefTgE+b7IMRbsnj3W04z9NAg/ikOZWwLx9g8V3JHzuqrO8a9 C1lCAdAzR3A8TB0rCvfYNpq+vMl+W93M+5baxigSBJihwnHLJ0swh6HYrutC2UQi0+FT PJ8AzmdjKGi8yCpyIOoDmU/asxIhS3AhUtWZTRaPn1iA+REPlEU4ROLPPYaZ8JaBPU1O 5BwsMy8sVyTILiLaaYC65PulFVRm21e24DLwEXkq6nwJTjFtDT8d9x8BliXXAvxVBlDq /C4g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm+WumIqT3pu+amJNRxDNEFrS0AyuqONEeXKVZb/cC8xh6sVrz9vIbyEfPF7IlAHz7nxt1V X-Received: by 10.152.206.75 with SMTP id lm11mr28973095lac.11.1439397432748; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.10.78 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:36:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201508121416161460122@qq.com> References: <201508121416161460122@qq.com> From: Jesse Gross Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:36:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ovs-discuss] Questions about Openvswitch on FreeBSD 10.1 Release To: "1214781328@qq.com" <1214781328@qq.com> Cc: alexw , freebsd-questions , discuss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:44:22 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM, 1214781328@qq.com <1214781328@qq.com> wro= te: > Hello: > Sorry for bothering you, but I got a strange bug while trying to build a = GRE > tunnel using Openvswitch between 2 virtual machines based on KVM. The OS = of > 2 virtual machines are FreeBSD 10.1 Release, and the host OS is CentOS 6.= 3, > Openvswitch version 2.3.2 on virtual machines. I=E2=80=99ll describe my b= ug in the > following paragraphs. > > INSTALLATION: I checked all the optional modules while installing FreeBSD= , > and installed openvswitch 2.3.2 by typing =E2=80=9Cpkg install openvswitc= h=E2=80=9D into > FreeBSD=E2=80=99s console, then =E2=80=9Cpkg install python=E2=80=9D beca= use the console said some > additional modules needs to be installed (2KB). > > CONFIGURATION: > 1) =E2=80=9Crm -f /var/db/openvswitch/conf.db=E2=80=9D > 2) =E2=80=9Covsdb-tool create /var/db/openvswitch/conf.db > /usr/local/share/openvswitch/vswitch.ovsschema=E2=80=9D > 3) =E2=80=9Covsdb-server --remote=3Dpunix:/var/run/openvswitch/db.sock > --remote=3Ddb.Open_vSwitch,manager_options --pidfile --detach=E2=80=9D > 4) =E2=80=9Covs-vsctl --no-wait init=E2=80=9D > 5) =E2=80=9Cova-vswichd --pidfile --detach =E2=80=94mlockall > NO ERROR during the procedures above. > > THEN COMES THE BUG: When I try to add a bridge =E2=80=9Covs-vsctl add-br = br0", it > said: "ovs-vsctl: Error detected while setting up 'br0'. See ovs-vswitch= d > log for details.=E2=80=9D Then i tried =E2=80=9Covs-vswitchd log=E2=80=9D= : > > 2015-08-11T05:48:55Z|00001|reconnect|INFO|log: connecting... > 2015-08-11T05:48:55Z|00002|reconnect|INFO|log: connection attempt failed > (Address family not supported by protocol family) > 2015-08-11T05:48:55Z|00003|reconnect|INFO|log: waiting 1 seconds before > reconnect Tunnels, including GRE, are currently only supported on Linux. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 07:44:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C9F99FD0C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevlo@ns.kevlo.org) Received: from ns.kevlo.org (220-135-115-6.HINET-IP.hinet.net [220.135.115.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns.kevlo.org", Issuer "ns.kevlo.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17DA2C78 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevlo@ns.kevlo.org) Received: from ns.kevlo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.kevlo.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t7D7iBbp097500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:44:11 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from kevlo@ns.kevlo.org) Received: (from kevlo@localhost) by ns.kevlo.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t7D7iAur097490; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:44:10 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from kevlo) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:44:09 +0800 From: Kevin Lo To: "1214781328@qq.com" <1214781328@qq.com> Cc: freebsd-questions , discuss , Jesse Gross Subject: Re: [ovs-discuss] Questions about Openvswitch on FreeBSD 10.1 Release Message-ID: <20150813074409.GA97165@ns.kevlo.org> References: <201508121416161460122@qq.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:44:54 -0000 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 09:36:53AM -0700, Jesse Gross wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM, 1214781328@qq.com <1214781328@qq.com> wrote: > > Hello: > > Sorry for bothering you, but I got a strange bug while trying to build a GRE > > tunnel using Openvswitch between 2 virtual machines based on KVM. The OS of > > 2 virtual machines are FreeBSD 10.1 Release, and the host OS is CentOS 6.3, > > Openvswitch version 2.3.2 on virtual machines. I’ll describe my bug in the > > following paragraphs. > > > > INSTALLATION: I checked all the optional modules while installing FreeBSD, > > and installed openvswitch 2.3.2 by typing “pkg install openvswitch†into > > FreeBSD’s console, then “pkg install python†because the console said some > > additional modules needs to be installed (2KB). > > > > CONFIGURATION: > > 1) “rm -f /var/db/openvswitch/conf.db†> > 2) “ovsdb-tool create /var/db/openvswitch/conf.db > > /usr/local/share/openvswitch/vswitch.ovsschema†> > 3) “ovsdb-server --remote=punix:/var/run/openvswitch/db.sock > > --remote=db.Open_vSwitch,manager_options --pidfile --detach†> > 4) “ovs-vsctl --no-wait init†> > 5) “ova-vswichd --pidfile --detach —mlockall > > NO ERROR during the procedures above. > > > > THEN COMES THE BUG: When I try to add a bridge “ovs-vsctl add-br br0", it > > said: "ovs-vsctl: Error detected while setting up 'br0'. See ovs-vswitchd > > log for details.†Then i tried “ovs-vswitchd logâ€: > > > > 2015-08-11T05:48:55Z|00001|reconnect|INFO|log: connecting... > > 2015-08-11T05:48:55Z|00002|reconnect|INFO|log: connection attempt failed > > (Address family not supported by protocol family) > > 2015-08-11T05:48:55Z|00003|reconnect|INFO|log: waiting 1 seconds before > > reconnect > > Tunnels, including GRE, are currently only supported on Linux. Besides, you should use service command for starting ovs on FreeBSD rather than starting ovs manually: service ovsdb_server onestart service ovs_vswitchd onestart Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 14:43:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3149A0225 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A7EAF81 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by wicne3 with SMTP id ne3so142841805wic.0 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to; bh=DDoUMbfL3h1Ujjs5L4WvG2gyQFhfzhkvfIe7rYNqWmc=; b=m5VBiS8Tv9ISIHUAMUzyyZsOO2B0JE8sMhsdRGT7DiaW4/21TG6nIHpV7jCqa6CWRy 4S3AAYLjPsKiVuLmuLXAHM2hv4SnNTNisxte+vlEzEW420vROYMwQTh95y1YXbnsYc6w D7nHl35JRsf0UK7Bv067zWVIfjkQShw+1qARm7lRkJZvttfx0K2Qf4R8dYuW6kD82q8S XhMJL73nO7FZg6qzHwJSF9SHTH9VkCj3bYCrgcMYYXyY+4X60P9S8OkVxtKhtcYLfsxl P/m2z/QObEJiZnX+L6iOKhRhHvZE8uuNLo8TwaWJ7u82WE9pF/MEl1DROLU8oVWtIynZ j3qQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkreqY3ywz3OSo+UoljYHws0UivKJHo39qheQy+xUYJRfxyL1GBIf+VJdYH7/RMigJuV9Th X-Received: by 10.194.179.136 with SMTP id dg8mr75657132wjc.49.1439476989178; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h9sm3715401wjx.20.2015.08.13.07.43.08 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t7DEh7Di086079 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:43:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t7DEh7Th086078 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:43:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:43:07 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201508131443.t7DEh7Th086078@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: driver for usb ingrated wireless Dell 5570e? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:43:17 -0000 I've Dell Latitude 3340. usbconfig shows: ugen0.4: , cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (500mA) Is there a driver for it? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 18:47:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2CC9B8EA0 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:47:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A07619B2 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 4JmZ1r00C07iGuj01JmaiH; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:46:34 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D26E123DB; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:46:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:46:33 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: driver for usb ingrated wireless Dell 5570e? Message-ID: <20150813184633.GA95075@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201508131443.t7DEh7Th086078@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201508131443.t7DEh7Th086078@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:47:47 -0000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:43:07PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've Dell Latitude 3340. > usbconfig shows: > ugen0.4: , cfg=3D0 md=3DHOST spd=3DHIGH (480Mbps) pwr=3DON (50= 0mA) >=20 > Is there a driver for it? Not sure if this model is supported, but have a look at the =E2=80=9Cusie= =E2=80=9D driver. (No manual page AFAICT.) See also the following forum post: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/sierra-wireless-hspa-usb-modem.24719/ Alternatively, try the u3g(4) driver. Load the driver *before* plugging the device in. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVzOYBAAoJEED21dyjijPgNmsP/ijnaxYwPpUEA31Eukmvf56x yLLugyUh1oUdiF0sYnp1DTu8iY9GrS/K/m3aJGQ0aps17clJPLK1xy5Qg9CTgYEY g820YmdhMiP4XNv8UdK407hzGjFt0XZ5ch7l0FPaqXtBTZRHtI4avKsm/bo8sY9u U7Nj/LphHoWzcOXws4yn/nM0AKwgajo8x1BLT95W97lHCmtPsCNkCI1LcvNWe02T +fMO+gQZXGUWV2BrD8yXBNUMfN6PZVDBN+zAp+kwBYweQS7B6nVNkX5ZvQvcl08D s6+XpY4rnGC2Lpxvh8iT/JKNI36ixVj4ZSkLT5YdabC3+6f4Veah+nMJyyhq0zb8 axlN2rjb/280XDA5ESPmeNqb1MUkzIzor1icgxQdEl05pigjABES66XkXXZAsMyh 3HqD7fXE4eZfwZZ64/HiPGIjt7M+smR9prXIrWDFTzNySt7JVmsncKgGWWglF0wt Y8tZuZ5CtKR+dkv122rLzToYQ/00CexwM1LjcitW3UYzid9WMqq0qanPuo/elUUo w4GOVx8SpFijYv0ltNUyKqRnMIIkGsC9zoIDFiY4gApuDggX23jC936nbuJHsYcH zZUzO3CaW+Gl5//+qqJfkrqPDfsWk3edoOoms3BQisnWBmmRWhKv5cLP+irxMHE7 rDIxZRZYd9b4fIJ7Sluy =Wujt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 20:27:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D889B808E for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdockery@hargray.com) Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.redcondor.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6387C5D for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdockery@hargray.com) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150813202659162_0413 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:26:59 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from [64.253.11.218] (account mdockery@hargray.com HELO movies.localnet) by hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9) with ESMTPSA id 39833874 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:26:55 -0400 From: Mike Dockery To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Joystick configuration Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:26:54 -0400 Message-ID: <2099929.j7WTS8YIGh@movies> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MAG-OUTBOUND: hargray.redcondor.net@64.203.254.40/32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:27:01 -0000 Greetings, I have five grandkids and gave them a computer two years ago that is powered by Netrunner. The oldest grand child is 11 and he is addicted to flightgear. The all like some of the other joystick controlled games. They all are home schooled and there are many great programs that can be of help to them. I am planning a second computer and wanted to use FreeBSD to widen their exposure to what is available. As a way to test this idea, I installed FreeBSD 10.1 on an extra hard drive and have been playing around with it for the past few days. Everything looks great on the KDE system... mythtv had to use my hdhomerun unit because the pcHDTV cards wouldn't load (easily anyway). Flightgear would not build but I was able to git the latest version and install it. The problem is the joystick. My question is: Why are joysticks so difficult or impossible to set up? If there is a way, why is the information hidden. Every search on this subject has lead to outdated or useless information. This is a major roadblock for my plans and I am sure this one area is sending many potential users back to linux. FreeBSD seems so solid and complete that I just can't imagine why this one area is so empty. Am I missing something? Thanks for letting me ask this question. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 22:13:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2674399F5F7 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF2A0F39 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQ0kF-0003qV-DD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:13:07 +0200 Received: from 5e1bad01.mobile.pool.telekom.hu ([94.27.173.1]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:13:07 +0200 Received: from leventelist by 5e1bad01.mobile.pool.telekom.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; 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Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Crabberio.Haakh.de (crabberio.Haakh.de [192.168.63.16]) by abaton.Haakh.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t7DN9xaF027715 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:10:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bugReporter@ib-haakh.de) Message-ID: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:09:59 +0200 From: "Dr. Andreas Haakh" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: a bug in /bin/ls Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:10:07 -0000 On: FreeBSD Crabberio.Haakh.de 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-PRERELEASE #0 r286580: Mon Aug 10 19:49:05 CEST 2015 toor@Crabberio.Haakh.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CRABBERIO amd64 using the "-U"-flag in /bin/ls together with "-l" leads to the following output [...] -rwxr--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 798720 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1562.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 579493 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1714.jpg [...] and the sorting is not affected by the flag (still by name). BTW is it really necessary to create an account in order to file a bug-report? I hate to create accounts for every [beep] and I believe I'm not alone. Best regards Andreas Haakh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 23:29:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8A99B8239 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70D021F7 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A93D3CF03; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:29:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7DNTULt003340; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:29:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:29:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Dr. Andreas Haakh" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a bug in /bin/ls Message-Id: <20150814012930.e40c0ba6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> References: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:29:39 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:09:59 +0200, Dr. Andreas Haakh wrote: > On: > FreeBSD Crabberio.Haakh.de 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-PRERELEASE #0 > r286580: Mon Aug 10 19:49:05 CEST 2015 > toor@Crabberio.Haakh.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CRABBERIO amd64 > > using the "-U"-flag in /bin/ls together with "-l" > leads to the following output > [...] > -rwxr--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 798720 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1562.jpg > -rw-r--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 579493 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1714.jpg > [...] > > and the sorting is not affected by the flag (still by name). What file system (FS type) do those files reside on? It seems that the file creation date hasn't been recorded properly (or the file system in use doesn't have that feature), or the date has been reset to "zero" (00:00:00 UTC on 1 January 1970). It's also possible that FS inode data got corrupted. However, sorting by creation date using -U doesn't seem to work on my system, too: % ll -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:29 a -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:25 b This is sorted by name, as expected, but: % ll -U -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:29 a -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:25 b Those lines should be in reverse order... and none of the time-related flags (-c, -u, -U) seems to change the fact that the files are sorted alphabetically. NB: ll = 'ls -laFG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 00:01:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5929B8D61 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugReporter@ib-haakh.de) Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5300::7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF5911FE1 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugReporter@ib-haakh.de) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1439510502; l=2317; s=domk; d=ib-haakh.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References: Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date; bh=Mjy2E8Pm4ZmlHoI0+n+JKkbMQUZwrfBuYCRK2xINB0I=; b=o5oUO0RfgmsWfD/4l7VcKqdHV/suskElgJjrkZC0YQHrhD8L83+SxGEW7qvyFbcaSgm dZ+8OU+Uw2sd1IuCmvNGLlKwLcatuK1wYWr42ve3H70DvJ7WHKDJAF/SQsgeR8zwYDFHN tzxAw9ye3vP6C2+eGexYgNacu6Vumdze/+k= X-RZG-AUTH: :LWQcbViwW/e6OTbW0dHzwKkCepEs/ThuRG8zpeuciRNkwehqPJJjNLbgVNeKcQ== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from abaton.Haakh.de (p57A71EB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.167.30.184]) by post.strato.de (RZmta 37.9 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPA id 40105br7E01g4j8; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Crabberio.Haakh.de (crabberio.Haakh.de [192.168.63.16]) by abaton.Haakh.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t7E01fs8028475; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:01:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bugReporter@ib-haakh.de) Message-ID: <55CD2FE5.5050309@ib-haakh.de> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:01:41 +0200 From: "Dr. Andreas Haakh" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a bug in /bin/ls References: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> <20150814012930.e40c0ba6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150814012930.e40c0ba6.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:01:48 -0000 Am 14.08.2015 um 01:29 schrieb Polytropon: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:09:59 +0200, Dr. Andreas Haakh wrote: >> On: >> FreeBSD Crabberio.Haakh.de 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-PRERELEASE #0 >> r286580: Mon Aug 10 19:49:05 CEST 2015 >> toor@Crabberio.Haakh.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CRABBERIO amd64 >> >> using the "-U"-flag in /bin/ls together with "-l" >> leads to the following output >> [...] >> -rwxr--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 798720 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1562.jpg >> -rw-r--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 579493 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1714.jpg >> [...] >> >> and the sorting is not affected by the flag (still by name). > What file system (FS type) do those files reside on? It seems > that the file creation date hasn't been recorded properly (or > the file system in use doesn't have that feature), or the date > has been reset to "zero" (00:00:00 UTC on 1 January 1970). > It's also possible that FS inode data got corrupted. > > However, sorting by creation date using -U doesn't seem to work > on my system, too: > > % ll > -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:29 a > -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:25 b > > This is sorted by name, as expected, but: > > % ll -U > -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:29 a > -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 2015-08-14 01:21:25 b > > Those lines should be in reverse order... and none of the > time-related flags (-c, -u, -U) seems to change the fact > that the files are sorted alphabetically. > > > > NB: ll = 'ls -laFG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' :-) > My example comes from an nfs-mounted ufs-filesystem -- the server is FreeBSD abaton 9.3-STABLE FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE #0 r284539: Thu Jun 18 12:55:12 CEST 2015 toor@abaton:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ABATON amd64 mount on my server gives (among others) /dev/mirror/gm0p1 on /datM (ufs, NFS exported, local, nfsv4acls) <--- this one /dev/mirror/gm0p2 on /datV (ufs, NFS exported, local) /arr0/mmed on /mmed (zfs, NFS exported, local, nfsv4acls) The second fs (without nfsv4acls) and the last one (zfs) give me the same results. The lowercase variant of the options "-u" gives a real date but ordering doesn't work either. I guess the ordering (on ufs) should be taken care of and the date-problem should be handled afterwards. Best regards Andreas Haakh N.B.: Senile Bettflucht ;-) ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 00:13:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBA399E3D8 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A667E1EDA for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1383427806; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:13:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7E0D3gN003500; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:13:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:13:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Dr. Andreas Haakh" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a bug in /bin/ls Message-Id: <20150814021303.5aa4ac09.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55CD2FE5.5050309@ib-haakh.de> References: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> <20150814012930.e40c0ba6.freebsd@edvax.de> <55CD2FE5.5050309@ib-haakh.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:13:13 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:01:41 +0200, Dr. Andreas Haakh wrote: > My example comes from an nfs-mounted ufs-filesystem -- the server is > > FreeBSD abaton 9.3-STABLE FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE #0 r284539: Thu Jun 18 > 12:55:12 CEST 2015 toor@abaton:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ABATON amd64 > > mount on my server gives (among others) > /dev/mirror/gm0p1 on /datM (ufs, NFS exported, local, nfsv4acls) <--- > this one > /dev/mirror/gm0p2 on /datV (ufs, NFS exported, local) > /arr0/mmed on /mmed (zfs, NFS exported, local, nfsv4acls) > > The second fs (without nfsv4acls) and the last one (zfs) give me the > same results. I can confirm this. > The lowercase variant of the options "-u" gives a real date but ordering > doesn't work either. You can always verify the three dates with "stat ", or use "stat *" for comparison. You can also use a strftime()-like format string for "pretty printing": % stat -t "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" * 107 62979017 -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 0 "2015-08-14 01:25:35" "2015-08-14 01:25:35" "2015-08-14 01:25:35" "2015-08-14 01:25:35" 16384 0 0 a 107 62979021 -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 0 "2015-08-14 01:25:41" "2015-08-14 01:25:41" "2015-08-14 01:25:41" "2015-08-14 01:25:41" 16384 0 0 b 107 62979018 -rw-r--r-- 1 poly staff 0 0 "2015-08-14 01:25:38" "2015-08-14 01:25:38" "2015-08-14 01:25:38" "2015-08-14 01:25:38" 16384 0 0 c Even though those have different date information, using the -c, -u or -U option does always result in alphabetic ordering. This happens on a locally mounted UFS file system. The mount options here do not involve anything special: /dev/ad6 on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates) So those should not be the source of the problem. > N.B.: Senile Bettflucht ;-) ?? No, just "commonly unacceptable working hours". ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 03:26:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4239A075E for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 03:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.j.smith0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x233.google.com (mail-ob0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1BF81D8A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 03:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.j.smith0@gmail.com) Received: by obbfr1 with SMTP id fr1so52439689obb.1 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:26:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Wx8Vd8O52Mf/NYb7fWHdeo+8dPJmvyPOk4e0hTY/IvU=; b=O++iiYhxwWNhwuDX+czdK+oBdyd+ej71URDOLqECoLUjU+UyOI/B39aSpTQZJkd2Rm 4SxMMV6q1wuBCgJdA2ihS3SrHpQRegdgv3qeMb48fVnjp/QnloUihqAvdtlTusnKiJsn cdBqqd/1GHBNLI+IfylsFeYOBM7H7usahZVD7Bzxu09puw5bme4VkqZBAjuVu4OU++UX 7PZTE7DEIO3dT4IdM9eY7Rc6AnAK/SfAGMKyFJQVpY563fnmqAac7G0VfkZXZszfl/4I 0y8wIiCzVM2iMk2fkcySgcsv38ugn++S/UDo9kVM8xczCjZSYGVVP+pIqDEUeZg69lcv tXYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.33.74 with SMTP id p10mr39307432oei.62.1439522775895; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.169.196 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:26:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> References: <55CD23C7.9010803@ib-haakh.de> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:26:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a bug in /bin/ls From: Paul Smith To: "Dr. Andreas Haakh" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 03:26:17 -0000 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Dr. Andreas Haakh wrote: > On: > FreeBSD Crabberio.Haakh.de 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-PRERELEASE #0 > r286580: Mon Aug 10 19:49:05 CEST 2015 > toor@Crabberio.Haakh.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CRABBERIO amd64 > > using the "-U"-flag in /bin/ls together with "-l" > leads to the following output > [...] > -rwxr--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 798720 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1562.jpg > -rw-r--r-- 1 krabbe ibh 579493 1 Jan 1970 IMAG1714.jpg > [...] > > and the sorting is not affected by the flag (still by name). > > >From the man page: -U Use time when file was created for sorting or printing. -u Use time of last access, instead of time of last modification of the file for sorting (-t) or printing (-l). -t Sort by descending time modified (most recently modified first). . . . Does something like ls -Ult give you what you want? My interpretation is that -u and -U need to be combined with -t or -l. I think the -c option works the same way. Did you get different output on a previous FreeBSD version? Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 14:04:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4008A9B87D9 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdockery@hargray.com) Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.redcondor.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C3E2196D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdockery@hargray.com) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150814140435951_0413 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:04:35 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from [64.253.11.218] (account mdockery@hargray.com HELO movies.localnet) by hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9) with ESMTPSA id 9105307 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:04:27 -0400 From: Mike Dockery To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Joystick configuration Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:04:27 -0400 Message-ID: <1648626.nBRPJnYAov@movies> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150814001300.64ea623b@jive.levalinux.org> References: <2099929.j7WTS8YIGh@movies> <20150814001300.64ea623b@jive.levalinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MAG-OUTBOUND: hargray.redcondor.net@64.203.254.40/32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:04:38 -0000 On Friday 14 August 2015 12:13:00 AM Lev wrote: > Mike, > > > Upgrade your port tree, and flightgear will build. I've recently made the > package maintainer to commit some patches that fix build issues. > > For the joystick, I think this should be followed: > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-gamepad-and-freebsd.18454/ > > Please note that I also want to spend some time with flightgear, especially > flying the space-shuttle. > > Please let me know if this works for you. > > Thanks, > Lev Greetings Lev, Thanks for your reply and your helpful attitude. Friendly offers to help are always appreciated. I have visited the link you provided several times in the past few days but the information provided there has not helped. I keep getting the following lines in my Xorg.0.log: [ 34.118] (EE) PreInit returned 11 for "Thrustmaster" [ 34.118] (II) UnloadModule: "joystick" As for the settings in the xorg.conf example, I have no idea where the axis and button values came from. It would be great if there was a joystick calibration program that could be run to provide that information. As a last chance effort, I'll try my old logitech joystick today to see if the flightgear program js_demo will work on it... but I have no idea what values to insert into xorg.conf for that joystick either. Joystick calibration appears to be my main area of concern... even more that not being able to play amazon instant videos. Again, thanks for your help. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 20:15:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557FC9BA8DC for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@thehowies.com) Received: from remote.thehowies.com (50-197-91-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.197.91.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "remote.thehowies.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B51B1965 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@thehowies.com) Received: from PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::497b:de8e:1045:4c2a]) by PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::497b:de8e:1045:4c2a%24]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:14:36 -0700 From: John Howie To: Steve / Theresa via freebsd-questions Subject: ada disk now da disk in upgrade to 10.2 Release? 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Thread-Index: AQHQ1s3WIvlxSImnh0Sq+mU6T1naWA== Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:14:35 +0000 Message-ID: <480CDD91-7457-4E11-B614-934F5B66FBCB@thehowies.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/0.0.0.150807 x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.26] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:15:47 -0000 SGkgYWxsLA0KDQpJIHJhbiBhbiB1cGdyYWRlIHZpYSBmcmVlYnNkLXVwZGF0ZSBmcm9tIDEwLjEt UkVMRUFTRSB0byAxMC4yLVJFTEVBU0UuIEV2ZXJ5dGhpbmcgd2VudCB3ZWxsIHVudGlsIHRoZSBy ZWJvb3QgYWZ0ZXIga2VybmVsIHVwZGF0ZXMuIFRoZSBrZXJuZWwgY29tcGxhaW5lZCBpdCBjb3Vs ZCBub3QgZmluZCB0aGUgcm9vdCBmaWxlc3lzdGVtLCB3aGljaCB3YXMgYXQgL2Rldi9hZGEwcDIu IFRoZSBkaXNrIG5vIGxvbmdlciBhcHBlYXJzIGluIC9kZXYsIGFuZCBpdCBpcyBub3cgL2Rldi9k YTBwMi4NCg0KVGhlIG1hY2hpbmUgaXMgcnVubmluZyB1bmRlciBIeXBlciBWIChhIGd1ZXN0IE9T KS4NCg0KRG9lcyBhbnlvbmUgaGF2ZSBhbnkgaWRlYSB3aHkgdGhpcyBtaWdodCBoYXZlIGhhcHBl bmVkPw0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KDQpKb2huDQoNCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 20:51:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353139BAE8F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2B4F1BBD for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 035723CCFE; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7EKp9p4002119; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: John Howie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ada disk now da disk in upgrade to 10.2 Release? Message-Id: <20150814225109.279f0c29.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <480CDD91-7457-4E11-B614-934F5B66FBCB@thehowies.com> References: <480CDD91-7457-4E11-B614-934F5B66FBCB@thehowies.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:51:13 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:14:35 +0000, John Howie wrote: > Hi all, > > I ran an upgrade via freebsd-update from 10.1-RELEASE to 10.2-RELEASE. > Everything went well until the reboot after kernel updates. The kernel > complained it could not find the root filesystem, which was at > /dev/ada0p2. The disk no longer appears in /dev, and it is now > /dev/da0p2. > > The machine is running under Hyper V (a guest OS). > > Does anyone have any idea why this might have happened? This looks like either "Hyper-V" stopped representing the disk device as an AHCI device (ada driver: "ATA Direct Access device driver"), and the OS now recognizes it as a SCSI device (da driver: "SCSI Direct Access device driver"), or the OS doesn't contain or load the ada driver for some reason, which would be strange, given that the driver is part of the GENERIC kernel for some time now. SATA drives are commonly recognized by the AHCI driver, PATA drives by the default ATA driver (ad driver: "generic ATA/ATAPI disk controller driver", considered obsolete now), and all other SCSI peripherials use the SCSI drivers. This should be the same between 10.1 and 10.2. What do "camcontrol devlist" and "atacontrol list" day about the recognized disks? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [98.158.10.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1676913B4 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t7EMIuwn071373 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t7EMIulh071372 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:18:56 -0700 From: Jim Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: rc.conf, ifconfig, VLANs and named interfaces Message-ID: <20150814221855.GB71219@ns.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:18:57 -0000 I am trying to figure out what to put into my rc.conf to yield the following configuration: # ifconfig public public: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=103 ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 If I use these rc.conf entries: # head -6 /etc/rc.conf hostname="host.example.com" IP="10.0.0.10/24" vlans_em0='4' ifconfig_em0="inet $IP" ifconfig_em0_4='inet 10.0.1.10/24' I get: t60 : 20:18:37 /root# ifconfig em0.4 em0.4: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=103 ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 That's very close! Now I just need /etc/rc.d/netif to rename the interface. But the interface name has a dot in it. I'm going to guess that if I replace that dot with an underscore, rc.conf and netif will know what I mean. Unfortunately, # head -8 /etc/rc.conf hostname="host.example.com" IP="10.0.0.10/24" vlans_em0='4' ifconfig_em0="inet $IP" ifconfig_em0_4='inet 10.0.1.10/24' ifconfig_em0_4_name='public' Yields no 'public' interface: # ifconfig -l em0 wpi0 lo0 em0.4 wlan0 # ifconfig em0.4 em0.4: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=103 ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 The renaming doesn't happen. Manually renaming the interface DOES work, so I know it's possible: # ifconfig -l em0 wpi0 lo0 em0.4 wlan0 # ifconfig em0.4 name public # ifconfig -l em0 wpi0 lo0 public wlan0 # ifconfig public public: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=103 ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 But how can I get netif to do it automatically, so that I can boot up with a named, vlan-tagged interface? Thanks! Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 05:00:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB7E9BA78A for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 05:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@oslo.ath.cx) Received: from oslo.ath.cx (oslo.ath.cx [IPv6:2a01:4f8:200:42e4::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CC451C38 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 05:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@oslo.ath.cx) Received: from oslo.ath.cx (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by oslo.ath.cx (Postfix) with SMTP id 86DD418C1; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:59:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:59:51 +0200 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: Jim Long Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf, ifconfig, VLANs and named interfaces Message-ID: <20150815045951.GA40785@oslo.ath.cx> References: <20150814221855.GB71219@ns.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150814221855.GB71219@ns.umpquanet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23+116 (55ea6e829b46) (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 05:00:04 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 03:18:56PM -0700, Jim Long wrote: > I am trying to figure out what to put into my rc.conf to yield the following > configuration: > > # ifconfig public > public: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=103 > ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a > inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 > > If I use these rc.conf entries: > > # head -6 /etc/rc.conf > hostname="host.example.com" > IP="10.0.0.10/24" > > vlans_em0='4' > ifconfig_em0="inet $IP" > ifconfig_em0_4='inet 10.0.1.10/24' > > I get: > > t60 : 20:18:37 /root# ifconfig em0.4 > em0.4: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=103 > ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a > inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 > > That's very close! Now I just need /etc/rc.d/netif to rename the interface. > But the interface name has a dot in it. I'm going to guess that if I replace > that dot with an underscore, rc.conf and netif will know what I mean. > > Unfortunately, > > # head -8 /etc/rc.conf > hostname="host.example.com" > IP="10.0.0.10/24" > > vlans_em0='4' > ifconfig_em0="inet $IP" > ifconfig_em0_4='inet 10.0.1.10/24' > > ifconfig_em0_4_name='public' > > Yields no 'public' interface: > > # ifconfig -l > em0 wpi0 lo0 em0.4 wlan0 > # ifconfig em0.4 > em0.4: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=103 > ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a > inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 > > The renaming doesn't happen. Manually renaming the interface DOES work, so I > know it's possible: > > # ifconfig -l > em0 wpi0 lo0 em0.4 wlan0 > # ifconfig em0.4 name public > # ifconfig -l > em0 wpi0 lo0 public wlan0 > # ifconfig public > public: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=103 > ether 00:1a:6b:35:05:9a > inet 10.0.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > vlan: 4 parent interface: em0 > > But how can I get netif to do it automatically, so that I can boot up with a > named, vlan-tagged interface? Try: vlans_em0="public" create_args_public="vlan 4" ifconfig_public="inet 10.0.1.10/24" -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 13:07:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829A19BA8BA for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qg0-x232.google.com (mail-qg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38A671069 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by qgj62 with SMTP id 62so68001315qgj.2 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:07:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=EzmlPQb+F/FKbX7GXeJ0S626oj5v5Wk1nTq6hTGA4G8=; b=K4jQaDe8+1HBWiUfWE82FEU81tnQejwIdwgcrSoNRv0b2FMv/KphxcgdopVnq7Po9s 2P7/xXfNXqvUSJ1a42/KRM0M1zzYrmnaPzZ8+2jF8c48Iyl91jC/Dm2EIUbQvcMyRIz4 84Sm+Ec+TWkYPY6SCWEM3tUrGg7Pv3NrsbMTo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=EzmlPQb+F/FKbX7GXeJ0S626oj5v5Wk1nTq6hTGA4G8=; b=N5SGPKHhdc/EAlsRIvEj82xNipkVTSDWqkUkkzvRFvGdRLo/X2vdtSH6NebahpJI8U 5xKy/0stBjOUmdsYpDGiAhi6/2hhZZgVGp029EMY+vpkSmiWXU075S8IAnskN6pkAw3F FGIBKjpD7QA1xZqiVzrdBMCHOmUxY4G19GvrXDVELGu6wqQY2VvfHoKM7r/H4jXc3LX+ 9+ncCxfXfxjuJ3QXzYGxQYRPX+H8pmZlCEEN+MPj/N8UWuS6BmZ6rvFxwCxvH3bp+RdH R3ArrlOtfBoWdo3udnk3bYyRa2S11Qy84qdFEtOj6IHd23WYhn3bXpPoucn9qK6vYod/ dWyw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzz3Mp3l9muT9iyyrq88/rBb5d6mrUfTPg4uvFtN7oujF0fYw1FTH6qudxnz2R6e+qGW5A X-Received: by 10.140.34.33 with SMTP id k30mr88721267qgk.56.1439644022094; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-28-112.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.28.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o96sm4814175qgd.23.2015.08.15.06.07.01 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3mthjw3nLqz3Dlk2 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:07:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:06:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: VirtualBox 5.0 paravirtualization support? Message-ID: <20150815090653.4c32ccb3@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <928727957.20150815155436@serebryakov.spb.ru> References: <1594000299.20150815153855@serebryakov.spb.ru> <928727957.20150815155436@serebryakov.spb.ru> Reply-To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/9qFKsCeVN_OZH2DnEHwslcI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:07:03 -0000 --Sig_/9qFKsCeVN_OZH2DnEHwslcI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:54:43 +0300, Lev Serebryakov stated: > Hello Lev, >=20 > Saturday, August 15, 2015, 3:38:55 PM, you wrote: >=20 > > Is here nay plans to support new VirtualBox 5.0 para-virtualization > > support fort FreeBSD-as-guest? > > Does somebody investigate this feature already? > Looks like I should try Hyper-V emulation... I have heard good things about this and was thinking of trying it myself. https://wiki.freebsd.org/HyperV=20 --=20 Jerry --Sig_/9qFKsCeVN_OZH2DnEHwslcI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVzzltAAoJEElTsHIJnX8en2oH/RpBPbMidXuOOZGLDDP9bCOI ZYmfKp8Dxd8xF142OrRrMfdi7t2K0oVi0vgWy061kcY89TMNA+7ciDnhNR2wRCgF LdzOLfiIt8XF6S1p58Afxmtvh6a+iBgmlDHKaaDYkflzS1/txIDBWkQRVIwF1o1d m4xW0LDSpBNkhgCsVTKmn3K55VE8hDPacrioS08hGIOE04lUXDGhrsIfR6y/xeM9 x428gNWcha5UbQt8KNio6D00oV/krlJs2XQFvIjMC3PDB2n4Re5iTCCzGcxyapyq u2U/LJ49rZpjWcaGxz3K0CH7+mzlWXeWFFS2IxeyoWRZ1nvyr/IlqPhVAFwEsr4= =UfRE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9qFKsCeVN_OZH2DnEHwslcI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 13:16:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01B9BAA13 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s2.hotmail.com [65.55.111.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DEB5138D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP70 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:14:55 -0700 X-TMN: [CUEh5FwoNJp4zuxEGKvGP80Kkiqg8INP] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:14:53 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: IPFW and Bash Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2015 13:14:55.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[60E77910:01D0D75C] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:16:04 -0000 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p17 When booting up, this message is displayed: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by "bash" Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by "bash" Firewall rules loaded. Firewall logging enabled. ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg /usr/local/lib/compat /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg /usr/local/lib/dovecot /usr/local/lib/gcc48 /usr/local/lib/graphviz /usr/local/lib/libxul /usr/local/lib/mysql /usr/local/lib/nss /usr/local/lib/pth /usr/local/lib/qt4 /usr/local/lib exec/openldap /usr/local/llvm33/lib /usr/local/llvm34/lib /usr/local/llvm35/lib 32-bit compatibility ldconfig path: /usr/lib32 /usr/local/lib32/compat Creating and/or trimming log files. This message only appears if I configured "ipfw" to load at bootup. Bash; however, run just fine. I assume this is a useless warning; however, I would like to know why it only occurs if "ipfw" loads. Thanks! -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 13:38:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936D49BAD0C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BCD91DAD for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-150-34.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.150.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6B927897 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:37:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7FDbtuj002003 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:37:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:37:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: IPFW and Bash Message-Id: <20150815153755.0351091f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:38:04 -0000 On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:14:53 -0400, Carmel NY wrote: > FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p17 > > When booting up, this message is displayed: > > Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by "bash" > Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by "bash" > Firewall rules loaded. > Firewall logging enabled. > ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg /usr/local/lib/compat /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg /usr/local/lib/dovecot > /usr/local/lib/gcc48 /usr/local/lib/graphviz /usr/local/lib/libxul /usr/local/lib/mysql /usr/local/lib/nss /usr/local/lib/pth /usr/local/lib/qt4 /usr/local/lib > exec/openldap /usr/local/llvm33/lib /usr/local/llvm34/lib /usr/local/llvm35/lib > 32-bit compatibility ldconfig path: /usr/lib32 /usr/local/lib32/compat > Creating and/or trimming log files. > > This message only appears if I configured "ipfw" to load at bootup. Bash; > however, run just fine. I assume this is a useless warning; however, I would > like to know why it only occurs if "ipfw" loads. MY assumption would be: You're running a script with bash (or you're _trying_ to run a script with bash, maybe instead of sh) at boot time, at least prior to the state when the dynamic loader is fully operational. Depending on your configuration, a IPFW configuration script could be such a script. Do you call /bin/bash or /usr/local/bin/bash from somewhere within your IPFW config? After ldconfig has been established, running bash (interactively or as a scripting shell) should work as expected. In worst case, you could try to build the statically linked version of bash. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Firefox question Message-ID: <55CF4D33.7020804@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:36:45 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:31:30 -0000 NetBSD-users list is full of posts about Firefox v40. apparently being a bit flaky. I did a 'pkg version -vRL=' this A.M. & it listed Firefox 40.0_4,1 as upgrade candidate (I'm on 39.0,1 now). Has anyone tried the newer FF ? Any issues :-) ? I use FF mucho for browsing, don't need any foul-ups, so fess up :-) !!!! TIA & have a nice weekend. -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 14:54:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB6F9BA7EE for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpm@fbsd.es) Received: from imap1-1.ox.privateemail.com (imap1-1.ox.privateemail.com [198.187.29.239]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "privateemail.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0980E1E73 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpm@fbsd.es) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imap1.ox.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA075B0008E; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:54:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap1.ox.privateemail.com Received: from imap1.ox.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id GpjQTGiz3ujS; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (138.Red-83-33-58.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.33.58.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by imap1.ox.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D435B00058; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1439650455.1348.3.camel@fbsd.es> Subject: Re: Firefox question From: Carlos J Puga Medina To: wam@hiwaay.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:54:15 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-zUibDzaMjrbImA/os/Sv" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:54:35 -0000 --=-zUibDzaMjrbImA/os/Sv Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using firefox-40.0_5,1 and it works flawlessly on 10.2 -RELEASE/amd64. 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[174.30.233.239]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i123sm7982066ioi.13.2015.08.15.07.55.11 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:55:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <55CF4D33.7020804@hiwaay.net> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: Firefox question In-reply-to: <55CF4D33.7020804@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:55:10 -0500 Message-ID: <864mk0txdd.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:55:20 -0000 William A. Mahaffey III writes: > NetBSD-users list is full of posts about Firefox v40. > apparently being a bit flaky. I did a 'pkg version -vRL=' this A.M. & it > listed Firefox 40.0_4,1 as upgrade candidate (I'm on 39.0,1 now). Has > anyone tried the newer FF ? Any issues :-) ? I use FF mucho for > browsing, don't need any foul-ups, so fess up :-) !!!! TIA & have a nice > weekend. It works just fine for me, but you only have to go back three days in this mailing list to see a thread for people having some trouble. There's supposedly a workaround, but again, I haven't had need to try it out. You might want to hold back for now. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 15:17:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DAF9BAA79 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 735191909 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t7FFHN7r025804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:17:24 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: portmaster question Message-ID: <55CF5803.3000807@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:22:53 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:17:25 -0000 I went to upgrade my flash port this A.M. (the *only* thing I do from ports, no pkg available due to licensing issues). I crapped out part-way through with pkg-vulnerability issues of some of the dependencies. I tried to restart the process w/ commands to (try to) tell it to ignore those issues, but it doesn't think it has the libflash-plugin port. it is indeed there in the ports tree. I have done a few attempted cleanups, to no avail. If I delete /usr/ports entirely & begin again, will that work OK ? Would a 'portsnap fetch update' work correctly to re-populate the ports tree ? Last effort: [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:14:16am] 360 % portmaster -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes www/linux-c6-flashplugin graphics/linux-c6-cairo x11/linux-c6-xorg-libs security/linux-c6-cyrus-sasl2 security/linux-c6-openssl-compat x11-toolkits/linux-c6-pango ===>>> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin does not exist ===>>> Aborting update [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:14:19am] 361 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p21 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p21 #0: Tue Jul 28 09:02:48 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:00am] 362 % w/ the portmaster command from the 1st effort to upgrade, interspersed w/ reads of the man page. Any clues appreciated. TIA & have a nice weekend :-) .... -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 15:27:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BAD9BABD9 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2614D1DEE for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t7FFRVNw029479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:27:32 -0500 Subject: Re: portmaster question To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <55CF5803.3000807@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <55CF5A63.7000202@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:33:01 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55CF5803.3000807@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:27:34 -0000 On 08/15/15 10:22, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I went to upgrade my flash port this A.M. (the *only* thing I do from > ports, no pkg available due to licensing issues). I crapped out > part-way through with pkg-vulnerability issues of some of the > dependencies. I tried to restart the process w/ commands to (try to) > tell it to ignore those issues, but it doesn't think it has the > libflash-plugin port. it is indeed there in the ports tree. I have > done a few attempted cleanups, to no avail. If I delete /usr/ports > entirely & begin again, will that work OK ? Would a 'portsnap fetch > update' work correctly to re-populate the ports tree ? Last effort: > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:14:16am] 360 % portmaster -m > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes www/linux-c6-flashplugin > graphics/linux-c6-cairo x11/linux-c6-xorg-libs > security/linux-c6-cyrus-sasl2 security/linux-c6-openssl-compat > x11-toolkits/linux-c6-pango > > ===>>> /usr/ports/www/linux-c6-flashplugin does not exist > ===>>> Aborting update > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:14:19am] 361 % uname -a > FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p21 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p21 #0: Tue > Jul 28 09:02:48 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:00am] 362 % > > w/ the portmaster command from the 1st effort to upgrade, interspersed > w/ reads of the man page. Any clues appreciated. TIA & have a nice > weekend :-) .... *Aaaaaaaaaaaaack* !!!! The port is called '...plugin11', *not* '....plugin' :-/ .... W/ the correct name, all is well. Sorry for the noise :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 15:59:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431FA9BA163 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D312B113D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 53yE1r00807iGuj013yFVo; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 17:58:16 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3650E123D9; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 17:58:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 17:58:14 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: Firefox question Message-ID: <20150815155814.GA88726@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <55CF4D33.7020804@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55CF4D33.7020804@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:59:29 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 09:36:45AM -0453, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 > NetBSD-users list is full of posts about Firefox v40.=20 > apparently being a bit flaky. I did a 'pkg version -vRL=3D' this A.M. & i= t=20 > listed Firefox 40.0_4,1 as upgrade candidate (I'm on 39.0,1 now). Has=20 > anyone tried the newer FF ? Any issues :-) ? I use FF mucho for=20 > browsing, don't need any foul-ups, so fess up :-) !!!! TIA & have a nice= =20 > weekend. The initial 40.0_1 was flaky. Subsequent revisions fixed this. Basically by setting the configuration =E2=80=9Clayers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled= =E2=80=9D to false by default. The current portrevision 40.0_5,1 runs fine. There has been some churn in recent firefox versions; - A switch back to GTK+2, then allowing GTK+3 again. - Logging is not longer optional. - Some platforms have switched to off-main-thread compositioning. This does= n't seem to work well on FreeBSD. 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When read a pdf it pauses between pages for about 3-5 seconds, sometimes longer. I have given it a "greedy" setting under Settings/Performace. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 23:04:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833DC9BA963 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E9ABE5A for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iods203 with SMTP id s203so117416054iod.0 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=81pjEqVoZO8XSxj7PaPuzAd4ZdK/bkGp4MArhNDsqLk=; b=Apkk6JOBcXHx06WO1BHu4hwYHNCAXczhQKVdvd48fcrvHr56fMtoTMNbiW1zPF036E PnlRwaMrc+xqWxek7vrNyYVxRaEl6IuBCgP9hwTEjC9OshxXESyjE7Pq24ZOGk24+oEC R8UMo3Xbyvzbu4STBwQqaYLiSkL5GYTv3lwrMQ/IALe20WutFVzeX73wORuhdxofgIDi csq9Yjx+ja8Nd9uRZ9zuBaPDIgUqOIpwATS7JtDwbtLhu5K0rg76apSJ20CQLOk7JAnu WHmhHlaQmHU5++JjxL5t47VnjbuoA8rAZ78U8i/ygxDgECKF/3eJ2FwBmaYxrCTyqRb7 UY8g== X-Received: by 10.107.27.148 with SMTP id b142mr59538444iob.114.1439679889373; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-73-3-70-211.hsd1.ut.comcast.net. [73.3.70.211]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n6sm6455651igv.17.2015.08.15.16.04.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Okular To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55CFB7E0.4050508@columbus.rr.com> From: jd1008 Message-ID: <55CFC58B.4050700@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 17:04:43 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55CFB7E0.4050508@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:04:50 -0000 On 08/15/2015 04:06 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > Is there a way to speed up okular? > When read a pdf it pauses between pages for about 3-5 seconds, > sometimes longer. > > I have given it a "greedy" setting under Settings/Performace. > > Thanks I use evince and it is pretty fast. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 23:15:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D219BAB00 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9691F12AE for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by igui7 with SMTP id i7so33309687igu.0 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KqhwX5rqCNeFinmRu1TYkli0poNlpQTz8QYtj1fRpqc=; b=ktutKvomobAM8M6hh+KwKyPwuSGFIlnmxzqwokv/hYkZdl4+V14vjKDp3OKCHB2aKG DuCJmTEDjDK30fUaq4EwpkevWg0ssqiIW5sDBbrmszN9EfMOvPY0iFhwZ40n32HvOAFZ N2DJKTjhEp8r1KPxKiH73QxqWo8/9XwpD5NI+4E0Nk8+7JS5UtGkK9tp5znw4XXq/RQA LecuqICPvmDIJ0+W3cq9ilozGtOLDEjTfggKBd6xk6L0d9X8EaqA5BDtRR23wob8RUKn 0TXKEhMGRT1f0DpmQYXX/5Fx07QewJV04U4lUBztAgvlyHg00w/QXX5N4IxrP+sw1Vit D7Zw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.45.34 with SMTP id j2mr10622047igm.53.1439680500006; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.79 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:14:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55CFB7E0.4050508@columbus.rr.com> References: <55CFB7E0.4050508@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:14:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Okular From: Adam Vande More To: Baho Utot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:15:00 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > Is there a way to speed up okular? > When read a pdf it pauses between pages for about 3-5 seconds, sometimes > longer. > > I have given it a "greedy" setting under Settings/Performace. > This is not likely to be an "okular problem", but rather okular exhibits symptoms of something else like an underpowered system, slow disk io, etc. Okular takes no where near that long for me to scroll between pages and no okular tuning has been done here. Make sure everything is installed correctly and updated then use something like dtrace/truss to find out where the systems is spending it's time. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 23:17:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DCC9BABA4 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8943D13B3 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:53936] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CE/0E-30743-1A8CFC55; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:17:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQki0-0003E9-R0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 19:17:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Okular To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <55CFB7E0.4050508@columbus.rr.com> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <55CFC8A0.5010603@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 19:17:52 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:17:54 -0000 On 08/15/15 19:14, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Baho Utot > wrote: > > Is there a way to speed up okular? > When read a pdf it pauses between pages for about 3-5 seconds, > sometimes longer. > > I have given it a "greedy" setting under Settings/Performace. > > > This is not likely to be an "okular problem", but rather okular > exhibits symptoms of something else like an underpowered system, slow > disk io, etc. Okular takes no where near that long for me to scroll > between pages and no okular tuning has been done here. Make sure > everything is installed correctly and updated then use something like > dtrace/truss to find out where the systems is spending it's time. > The system is an 8 core amd with 16GB RAM, coupled to SSD drives so I think it is not an underpowered system. I will have to lookup and build dtrace/truss Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 15 23:44:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435C39BAF5C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07E5B1E23 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by iods203 with SMTP id s203so117803363iod.0 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LuzEcsyvdlfhyaq6+bKNblUZjRGChmQnaz8l27IA9XM=; b=FJPDRVmVCGHcfLHc66Nh9mjDs9yPBWrW++kvuhW5fORUrnnTqb7fQkxHwD4aE8kBP/ kejFB4HszbHZRxYtnf0pY1gfHAEQCnEjF1cWexdXmJ/6m83lav5XyMNaY8OBdI7rfmt/ oUAXom3UglXz94kdtR/3eXCsnQoAOB+0dRgmvwXHk8uajGaTpDFau+fpPjiFS5m8v0zE gIjM5gwedJIU0Z2yHdTUXa9438H8SdihNCen6TjKVqXQ7bRcUtSKSdNgL+5FmN/Esee4 ZO0rXHks5KYsLc6WzEAz8NgwAyCw4v4esruEEju6+KSsTm+ccbvvxfGpAOJUyXxcBzqd UzVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.34.147 with SMTP id i141mr47878606ioi.59.1439682245435; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.79 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55CFC8A0.5010603@columbus.rr.com> References: <55CFB7E0.4050508@columbus.rr.com> <55CFC8A0.5010603@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Okular From: Adam Vande More To: Baho Utot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:44:06 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > The system is an 8 core amd with 16GB RAM, coupled to SSD drives so I > think it is not an underpowered system. > > I will have to lookup and build dtrace/truss That is slight more powerful than my own so probably not a hw issue unless there is some graphics issue going on. kdebugdialog may also be of use. -- Adam