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Thanks and Regards, Peter Lynn Research Analyst ============================================================================== If you do not wish to receive further emails kindly reply with "Leave Out" --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sat Feb 27 01:49:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14175AB5059; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 01:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from mail.xcllnt.net (mail.xcllnt.net [50.0.150.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE88D89C; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 01:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from [10.1.254.16] (cerberus.brkt.com [208.185.168.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.xcllnt.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u1R1nUvl091099 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:49:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Subject: Re: hint.uart.1 in device.hints causes freeze at boot Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EB6901CD-836B-4C93-B2BA-E5898924FD92"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.6b2 From: Marcel Moolenaar In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:49:24 -0800 Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org, "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current Message-Id: <4E9118B0-FC9F-444F-B277-3E5BAE75C723@xcllnt.net> References: To: "Lundberg, Johannes" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 01:49:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EB6901CD-836B-4C93-B2BA-E5898924FD92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 26, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Lundberg, Johannes = wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > Not sure if it's ok to cross post but I wasn't sure which list to send = to. >=20 > On Intel Atom X5-Z8300 SoC (CherryTrail) the install memstick image = (amd64) > halts during boot because of uart.1 settings in device hints. I have found that FreeBSD=E2=80=99s default device.hints file has fallen behind on reality and is indeed causing problems on more modern H/W, like the H/W you mention. >=20 > I'm sure it is there for a reason so what is the alternative actions? = Is > the solution to get a bootable Atom SoC image to create yet another > distribution or can the installer choose the proper device.hints > dynamically during boot? FreeBSD should really get rid of any default hints by now; or at least limit the hints to what is absolutely certain to be needed or to be correct. -- Marcel Moolenaar marcel@xcllnt.net --Apple-Mail=_EB6901CD-836B-4C93-B2BA-E5898924FD92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJW0QCkAAoJEIda8t8f0tjjeR0P/3QlP/N+8buDP4Uh/fGpsBXR 50UY+0OB+zhtIWorK1AYPRVKBGF+H4myv+wnSslvRkfXA2E/YyJp9bQIxtoUoFh+ Kv4DAs97dWSQiaEgs4TylIEmWQrkf2pcb7+qmlBE2b0oIWZY34+s9v/hA8U/KCpW mAkMY5j2NrFSv7oQ53Hba8MmI5Q9aP/U7wdoKMsZ9r9Y7qM+aaXkFqFK0Y0XI1Nl XjeI/r7eWaweDRx6RhxYUkuIizujkd8etpaw9NekhQErWuC00eBllFtvNSxKev2Z /xL9ldhr98BBMXHW8hWccDsZQzdWsL6aSYqS7nRg/PUDpXqBqFHWx/Wc7tyRKg7H 9ORodLQHM1nijRRa5UjY3neMCgcZX6ask7PRlp5UhWxC5MGWlZhH3kkZrmlfo0vT 9t4J2i7Uy+lCnkKeWWQS9EiVtE/aa1607Naw6djKSpn+V+GfaSXIFYcX43lv0XGd 6reXhhWrmkldXjzHGJM8Sc/9Loc8MckC3OaJh0354iDP2uXlg2vArKtx5+j6gVBb p0/raJF+V5iZLvISJKOtl2Bedo1jZt89n6eltjQ+S2MZZu84HT2kI9bcnxr8pKn9 iZ7HpXDw6N7NRp+kMNgUIGXmGl1wES/SuxdJg7iuakSe3UIW93Q2dzFvvKFBIhh9 2aRmx/S+ij4qOtJKtE78 =2Q6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_EB6901CD-836B-4C93-B2BA-E5898924FD92-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sat Feb 27 06:08:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3CEAB600E for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 06:08:38 -0000 On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Marcel Moolenaar wrote= : > > > On Feb 26, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Lundberg, Johannes < > johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Not sure if it's ok to cross post but I wasn't sure which list to send > to. > > > > On Intel Atom X5-Z8300 SoC (CherryTrail) the install memstick image > (amd64) > > halts during boot because of uart.1 settings in device hints. > > I have found that FreeBSD=E2=80=99s default device.hints file has fallen > behind on reality and is indeed causing problems on more modern > H/W, like the H/W you mention. > > > > > I'm sure it is there for a reason so what is the alternative actions? I= s > > the solution to get a bootable Atom SoC image to create yet another > > distribution or can the installer choose the proper device.hints > > dynamically during boot? > > FreeBSD should really get rid of any default hints by now; or at least > limit the hints to what is absolutely certain to be needed or to be > correct. > Any reason not to add .disabled=3D1 to all the entries that are there, with the possible exception of uart.0? At least for i386 and amd64? Bonus points for writing code that filters those out when there's no ACPI. While PNPBIOS could also supply this info, I doubt that you could find hardware that has pnpbios data and not ACPI data except maybe some of the soekris boxes to test against. Better still would be to split the current GENERIC.hints into two bits. One that was strictly for legacy (!ACPI and !PNPBIOS) situations, and one that we always load. There look to be at least a couple of hints that are universally relevant still. I might have a 200MHz pentium I can test this with... As near as I can tell, only the following are relevant: hint.fd.0.at=3D"fdc0" hint.fd.0.drive=3D"0" hint.fd.1.at=3D"fdc0" hint.fd.1.drive=3D"1" hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled=3D"1" hint.p4tcc.0.disabled=3D"1" and maybe hint.apm.0.disabled=3D"1" The floppy is for systems that have it, but won't add a floppy controller. APM hasn't been relevant since ~100MHz Pentium. The last two I'm unsure of. Warner Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sat Feb 27 07:22:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7744FAB5735; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE7DC1842; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u1R7LxLH030104; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:21:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:21:58 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warner Losh cc: Marcel Moolenaar , "Lundberg, Johannes" , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: hint.uart.1 in device.hints causes freeze at boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160227172039.F26318@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <4E9118B0-FC9F-444F-B277-3E5BAE75C723@xcllnt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:22:21 -0000 On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:08:37 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: (freebsd-current dropped; it'd only bounce) > Better still would be to split the current GENERIC.hints into two > bits. One that was strictly for legacy (!ACPI and !PNPBIOS) > situations, and one that we always load. There look to be at least a > couple of hints that are universally relevant still. I might have a > 200MHz pentium I can test this with... Still need a few old dogs in the kennel to taste test new dogfood .. > As near as I can tell, only the following are relevant: > hint.fd.0.at="fdc0" > hint.fd.0.drive="0" > hint.fd.1.at="fdc0" > hint.fd.1.drive="1" > hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled="1" > hint.p4tcc.0.disabled="1" > > and maybe > > hint.apm.0.disabled="1" > > The floppy is for systems that have it, but won't add a floppy > controller. APM hasn't been relevant since ~100MHz Pentium. I still admin a 300MHz Celeron laptop (Compaq Armada 1500c, '98) happily using APM - ACPI powered off on removing AC power - but still running on 5.5-STABLE, with a recent uptime >1200 days .. don't tell anyone :) > The last two I'm unsure of. Don't mess with those; it took Kevin Oberman years to get them there .. acpi_throttle and p4tcc are generally evil; they don't save ANY power on top of est ono and hugely increase the number of steps (so, time) powerd has to churn through to adjust CPU speed to load, with minimum speeds as low as a sluggish 75-100MHz on some, so now best defaulting to disabled. Certainly hard to find anything with a uart.1 in the last ~10 years, though I've no clue why or how that should cause a boot failure? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sat Feb 27 13:54:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441A6AB6F25 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 13:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp) Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF59C1880 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 13:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp) Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id c3so99847790vkb.3 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 05:54:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brilliantservice-co-jp.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=LRyVWum2cdhqHlqPjajT0veoSctemdv7RLmN3il8w7U=; b=yL+f2aScoulwTNjxpWiK60dkdivnW6lyHg59P/JK7VG931uzvbzQ0VVcsKFU2kGS+s h6N6VcCNW3DF9R/NxwP2DCxggHtObtvceBYMfY6jSETa2/aKeBRAhbtRZGaToiDlJSme zmu5K1y/Gvkj3bHW2JO2J9/UUyXe5IvmWeD00ITq5/jRzuGgqNulvf4TivKxAPouZslh qOJRtLV3hBUIFANfU01H8yyI4IaNNPNyo0r0UShoKinEt7m7zkf34x/nePr2y0bKMV70 J3OsIZ+waxzuOglxsMSbfxUkZwf//ObqMEBpdMaAIPe0tmGcd4EhctB6aWj6sIB7+AgA 90YA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=LRyVWum2cdhqHlqPjajT0veoSctemdv7RLmN3il8w7U=; b=JDltYYm2oCPM7adqf/503puPWxWzNYkq1Wrm/jAOyHJ4adE8dYIiGA7nGuhOcsXEwr O4r3wGPKZghx4pO2NuPXCKFqEaak381vc/Hp7/4gZNfk/Xx9jE6916iNMfdmNO2MlrEK hxpbOKvr9Ri/sYCQ1wUBialsAqYGLljGLbqSNjCZ9ZMpmSolapDoIs0CN1vuTzXN7gVm 2OsT/PKOvnynE9mqpcyxEVfe5+l9ddEGc5dPzOdZBTj8kH+XB9BMFy3NKWC60KM077KS 4TwVfhvd1L4ICzvJPBgmMfNwBRP/03gD4XrezrMupyctXS3WVfaXFc9NdcdC0qZDwCxu mUrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLef8ZfilpIlP7pX1ejTipEfcaQ2KpCTQW5dJTdqYi1dgVMkAFiWoajxAXhELXbcqhy6n0i/T9LbJcLkTPYHtzWwQ4D0S7LixoXQsIS78jSu2E7VzdsHhOzKjJXTRJwCoc7XHNjOLHPNrxwy58hNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.58.83 with SMTP id h80mr4967284vka.149.1456581260885; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 05:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.159.36.197 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 05:54:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160227172039.F26318@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <4E9118B0-FC9F-444F-B277-3E5BAE75C723@xcllnt.net> <20160227172039.F26318@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 05:54:20 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hint.uart.1 in device.hints causes freeze at boot From: "Lundberg, Johannes" To: Ian Smith Cc: Warner Losh , Marcel Moolenaar , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 13:54:22 -0000 >though I've no clue why or how that should cause a boot failure? Verbose logging don't give any clues either.. It just stops. On Friday, February 26, 2016, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:08:37 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > (freebsd-current dropped; it'd only bounce) > > > Better still would be to split the current GENERIC.hints into two > > bits. One that was strictly for legacy (!ACPI and !PNPBIOS) > > situations, and one that we always load. There look to be at least a > > couple of hints that are universally relevant still. I might have a > > 200MHz pentium I can test this with... > > Still need a few old dogs in the kennel to taste test new dogfood .. > > > As near as I can tell, only the following are relevant: > > hint.fd.0.at=3D"fdc0" > > hint.fd.0.drive=3D"0" > > hint.fd.1.at=3D"fdc0" > > hint.fd.1.drive=3D"1" > > hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled=3D"1" > > hint.p4tcc.0.disabled=3D"1" > > > > and maybe > > > > hint.apm.0.disabled=3D"1" > > > > The floppy is for systems that have it, but won't add a floppy > > controller. APM hasn't been relevant since ~100MHz Pentium. > > I still admin a 300MHz Celeron laptop (Compaq Armada 1500c, '98) happily > using APM - ACPI powered off on removing AC power - but still running on > 5.5-STABLE, with a recent uptime >1200 days .. don't tell anyone :) > > > The last two I'm unsure of. > > Don't mess with those; it took Kevin Oberman years to get them there .. > > acpi_throttle and p4tcc are generally evil; they don't save ANY power on > top of est ono and hugely increase the number of steps (so, time) powerd > has to churn through to adjust CPU speed to load, with minimum speeds as > low as a sluggish 75-100MHz on some, so now best defaulting to disabled. > > Certainly hard to find anything with a uart.1 in the last ~10 years, > though I've no clue why or how that should cause a boot failure? > > cheers, Ian > --=20 -- Name: Johannes Lundberg Position: Mirama project leader Phone: +1-408-636-2161 Skype: brilliantjohannes Online: LinkedIn Facebook Reddit Twitter GitHub GitLab Company: Mirama Brilliantservice US Brilliantservice JP --=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =E7=A7=98=E5=AF=86=E4=BF=9D=E6=8C=81=E3=81=AB=E3=81=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81=A6=EF= =BC=9A=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E9=9B=BB=E5=AD=90=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81= =AF=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E3=81=AB=E9=80=81=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=97= =E3=81=9F=E3=82=82=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=82=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E7=A7=98=E5= =8C=BF=E7=89=B9=E6=A8=A9=E3=81=AE=E5=AF=BE=E8=B1=A1=E3=81=A8=E3=81=AA=E3=82= =8B=E6=83=85=E5=A0=B1=E3=82=92=E5=90=AB=E3=82=93=E3=81=A7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE= =E3=81=99=E3=80=82 =E3=82=82=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E4=BB=A5=E5=A4=96=E3= =81=AE=E6=96=B9=E3=81=8C=E5=8F=97=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E5=A0= =B4=E5=90=88=E3=80=81=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AE= =E7=A0=B4=E6=A3=84=E3=80=81=E3=81=8A=E3=82=88=E3=81=B3=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AB=E9=96=A2=E3=81=99=E3=82=8B=E4=B8=80=E5=88= =87=E3=81=AE=E9=96=8B=E7=A4=BA=E3=80=81 =E8=A4=87=E5=86=99=E3=80=81=E9=85=8D=E5=B8=83=E3=80=81=E3=81=9D=E3=81=AE=E4= =BB=96=E3=81=AE=E5=88=A9=E7=94=A8=E3=80=81=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AF=E8=A8= =98=E8=BC=89=E5=86=85=E5=AE=B9=E3=81=AB=E5=9F=BA=E3=81=A5=E3=81=8F=E3=81=84= =E3=81=8B=E3=81=AA=E3=82=8B=E8=A1=8C=E5=8B=95=E3=82=82=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3= =81=AA=E3=81=84=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=8A=E9=A1=98=E3=81=84=E7=94=B3=E3=81= =97=E4=B8=8A=E3=81=92=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. 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From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sat Feb 27 17:22:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58169AB74C9; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from mail.xcllnt.net (mail.xcllnt.net [50.0.150.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EDB7C21; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from [10.1.254.16] (cerberus.brkt.com [208.185.168.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.xcllnt.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u1RHMDdb096060 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:22:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Subject: Re: hint.uart.1 in device.hints causes freeze at boot Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9E6F39E8-57EA-477A-B2C2-5CCD43F3F53C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.6b2 From: Marcel Moolenaar In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:22:07 -0800 Cc: Ian Smith , Warner Losh , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <00A3C4F0-AEEE-4341-9D5C-3810A9A08EA3@xcllnt.net> References: <4E9118B0-FC9F-444F-B277-3E5BAE75C723@xcllnt.net> <20160227172039.F26318@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: "Lundberg, Johannes" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:22:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9E6F39E8-57EA-477A-B2C2-5CCD43F3F53C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:54 AM, Lundberg, Johannes = wrote: >=20 > >though I've no clue why or how that should cause a boot failure? >=20 > Verbose logging don't give any clues either.. It just stops. On the Atom SoC I have, you can configure the UARTs as PCI or ACPI = devices. They work as PCI devices but required better support for memory mapped = low- level consoles in x86. If configured as ACPI (supposedly compatible), = they just don=E2=80=99t work. I belief FreeBSD would just hang when configured as = ACPI, but I=E2=80=99m foggy on that detail. Key is that they we=E2=80=99re trimmed-down UARTs (3-wire functionality) = and thus weird beasts... Johannes: If your BIOS has the same capability, try switching. PCI mode = is well supported in FreeBSD, though requires something like the following in = your loader.conf: hw.uart.console=3D"mm:0xd0810000,br:115200,rs:2,xo:44236800 This tells the uart(4) driver that the device is memory mapped (at I/O address 0xd0810000, uses 32-bit register access and has a non-standard clock input of 44236800 (=3D44Mhz). -- Marcel Moolenaar marcel@xcllnt.net --Apple-Mail=_9E6F39E8-57EA-477A-B2C2-5CCD43F3F53C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJW0ds/AAoJEIda8t8f0tjjSmgP/A9jiCDkcwM6YZWkmV6FE7T3 VJ/Hs9G73ixjJWzRdDv+YsYeT+NtYmP5dJVD28cgWsLww78RrTgoAFLBTyF8dM7k UsZbB56IJYXdbGZ1lBYYgRkMg31nWSTNrCdYGx12amV3TfrHGJlQ7pOdXaYW1tW1 WAqUjOXgJ7xkQVOBt+FpPxLF9gTMVkzSWlTysNywqErYIpBuQKa3Dqu7MU16pk3l DWMChuFuiiwzSsTyH4mcjZuTfWBTdbRUA52OmA7j3RkSQ8YmIfqAD1KzLJTzprW2 SYY7MQXKNWfxjRg+ot3LguOqsgpBgiN/ZkeNoYDjdj8pVzS7YWd2rVc8p+LsGNHk UyuYkkG7gLR5qVgRpndf86BJr6bng6C61qxqexEAcD3PT/TScuBxn2CXg34mm5FX H6DeAYnTcN3iM2Mpoln8df5SzqNQZB02IOoQ7UKsHJNyl/4IkRlm7AsqqMeeO0Pe xuoJ4xOY/zGlFM4hvdsRAs/TkTmieMvwD9aOwrHVd8KAwtfnJH+pzcxkn3T+cp2G XYQusBrLcyqQk50rM3NXomJxxfbbfxY5hTe9xhg/SrzRqDJ4NTaQtU54Mg55+TIf uv7rSdpcrxbWP4ltYGJFOE+aczLK0hcR5Gi47R4lg1kkgNkzUJriUkkEIFI24KVO zYllFu0PlwlNRup9DzJ2 =tRNR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_9E6F39E8-57EA-477A-B2C2-5CCD43F3F53C--