From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 04:25:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC8EA6A915 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 04:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BF121BC2 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 04:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id u0A4GOvg000938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 20:16:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id u0A4GObU000937 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 20:16:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01104; Sat, 9 Jan 16 20:09:31 PST Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2016 20:09:30 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: "pkg: pkg is not installed" even after installing it Message-Id: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 04:25:28 -0000 I am in the process of setting up a FreeBSD 10 system, which will be my first experience with pkg(8). In the interest of minimizing the need to start over after things go badly, I'm trying to carefully explore how pkg behaves, on an older system (FreeBSD 8) that does not normally use it: Mount the 10.2 memstick image read-only (on FreeBSD 8): # mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f /path/to/FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img md0 # ll -d /dev/md0* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 175 Nov 30 01:46 /dev/md0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 176 Nov 30 01:46 /dev/md0p1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 178 Nov 30 01:46 /dev/md0p2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 179 Nov 30 01:46 /dev/md0p3 # file -s /dev/md0* /dev/md0: x86 boot sector; ... /dev/md0p1: data /dev/md0p2: Unix Fast File system ... /dev/md0p3: data # gpart show md0 => 3 1346448 md0 GPT (657M) 3 32 1 freebsd-boot (16K) 35 1344368 2 freebsd-ufs (656M) 1344403 2048 3 freebsd-swap (1.0M) # mount -r -t ufs /dev/md0p2 /mnt Chroot into the image and run "pkg -N". Yes, this is running a newer userland on an older kernel, so it might fail with an unimplemented system call if the commands I run use kernel facilities not present in the older kernel. However I don't actually get any error messages. # chroot -u 105 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt which pkg /usr/sbin/pkg # chroot -u 105 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt ldd usr/sbin/pkg usr/sbin/pkg: libarchive.so.6 => /usr/lib/libarchive.so.6 (0x28071000) libfetch.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfetch.so.6 (0x2810f000) libucl.so.1 => /usr/lib/private/libucl.so.1 (0x28121000) libsbuf.so.6 => /lib/libsbuf.so.6 (0x28133000) libssl.so.7 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x28136000) libcrypto.so.7 => /lib/libcrypto.so.7 (0x28193000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x28323000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2834a000) libz.so.6 => /lib/libz.so.6 (0x284bf000) libbz2.so.4 => /usr/lib/libbz2.so.4 (0x284d3000) liblzma.so.5 => /usr/lib/liblzma.so.5 (0x284e3000) libbsdxml.so.4 => /lib/libbsdxml.so.4 (0x28506000) # chroot -u 105 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg -N pkg: pkg is not installed (as expected) Mount a tmpfs on the (otherwise read-only) /usr/local, and copy pkg.tgz there, so it will be visible in the chroot environment. # set MD4UL=`mdconfig -a -t swap -s 30m` # echo /dev/$MD4UL /dev/md1 # newfs -b 4096 -f 512 -m 0 -n /dev/$MD4UL Warning: changing optimization to space because minfree is less than 8% /dev/md1: 30.0MB (61440 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 512 using 4 cylinder groups of 7.50MB, 1921 blks, 3856 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 144, 15512, 30880, 46248 # tunefs -p /dev/$MD4UL ... tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e) 512 ... tunefs: optimization preference: (-o) space ... # tunefs -e 1921 -o time /dev/$MD4UL tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group changes from 512 to 1921 tunefs: optimization preference changes from space to time tunefs: should optimize for space with minfree < 8% # tunefs -p /dev/$MD4UL ... tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e) 1921 ... tunefs: optimization preference: (-o) time ... # mount /dev/$MD4UL /mnt/usr/local # mkdir /mnt/usr/local/pkg # chmod 777 /mnt/usr/local /mnt/usr/local/pkg # cp -p /path/to/pkg.txz* /mnt/usr/local/pkg # ll /mnt/usr/local/pkg total 2445 -r--r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 2487404 Jul 29 18:13 pkg.txz -r--r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 727 Jul 30 17:59 pkg.txz.sig # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg add -f /usr/local/pkg/pkg.tgz Verifying signature with trusted certificate pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301... done Note, no error messages. However: # chroot -u 105 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg -N pkg: pkg is not installed Why does it claim that pkg is not installed, when it just got through installing it? Or, if the install failed part way through, why was there no error message? And yes, the "pkg add" really did install something -- /mnt/usr/local/sbin did not exist before running "pkg add" -- and what it installed is at least partly functional: # ls -lR /mnt/usr/local total 1 drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 512 Jan 9 18:11 pkg drwxr-xr-x 2 perryh wheel 512 Jan 9 18:19 sbin /mnt/usr/local/pkg: total 2445 -r--r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 2487404 Jul 29 18:13 pkg.txz -r--r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 727 Jul 30 17:59 pkg.txz.sig /mnt/usr/local/sbin: total 4472 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4559004 Jul 29 18:13 pkg-static # chroot -u 105 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg-static help Usage: pkg [-v] [-d] [-l] [-N] [-j |-c |-r ] [-C ] [-R ] [-o var=value] [-4|-6] [] Global options supported: -d Increment debug level -j Execute pkg(8) inside a jail(8) -R Execute pkg(8) using relocating installation to -c Execute pkg(8) inside a chroot(8) -C Use the specified configuration file -R Directory to search for individual repository configurations -l List available commands and exit -v Display pkg(8) version -N Test if pkg(8) is activated and avoid auto-activation -o Override configuration option from the command line -4 Only use IPv4 -6 Only use IPv6 Commands supported: add Compatibility interface to install a package alias List the command line aliases annotate Add, modify or delete tag-value style annotations on packages audit Reports vulnerable packages autoremove Removes orphan packages backup Backs-up and restores the local package database check Checks for missing dependencies and database consistency clean Cleans old packages from the cache config Display the value of the configuration options convert Convert database from/to pkgng create Creates software package distributions delete Deletes packages from the database and the system fetch Fetches packages from a remote repository help Displays help information info Displays information about installed packages install Installs packages from remote package repositories and local archives lock Locks package against modifications or deletion plugins Manages plugins and displays information about plugins query Queries information about installed packages register Registers a package into the local database remove Deletes packages from the database and the system repo Creates a package repository catalogue rquery Queries information in repository catalogues search Performs a search of package repository catalogues set Modifies information about packages in the local database ssh Package server (to be used via ssh) shell Opens a debug shell shlib Displays which packages link against a specific shared library stats Displays package database statistics unlock Unlocks a package, allowing modification or deletion update Updates package repository catalogues updating Displays UPDATING information for a package upgrade Performs upgrades of packaged software distributions version Displays the versions of installed packages which Displays which package installed a specific file For more information on the different commands see 'pkg help '. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 09:32:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB8FA6ADEB for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA079109A for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u0A9Wp1Y040017 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:32:51 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk u0A9Wp1Y040017 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/u0A9Wp1Y040017; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: "pkg: pkg is not installed" even after installing it To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56922538.7080105@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:32:40 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pL6MjQo4tRI8IjgqVAcsafCNIUil7BBpu" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:32:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --pL6MjQo4tRI8IjgqVAcsafCNIUil7BBpu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/01/2016 04:09, Perry Hutchison wrote: > Why does it claim that pkg is not installed, when it just got through > installing it? Or, if the install failed part way through, why was the= re > no error message? And yes, the "pkg add" really did install something = -- > /mnt/usr/local/sbin did not exist before running "pkg add" -- and what = it > installed is at least partly functional: > # ls -lR /mnt/usr/local > total 1 > drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 512 Jan 9 18:11 pkg > drwxr-xr-x 2 perryh wheel 512 Jan 9 18:19 sbin > /mnt/usr/local/pkg: > total 2445 > -r--r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 2487404 Jul 29 18:13 pkg.txz > -r--r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 727 Jul 30 17:59 pkg.txz.sig > /mnt/usr/local/sbin: > total 4472 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4559004 Jul 29 18:13 pkg-static pkg(7) -- the shim that comes with the system -- is what produces the 'pkg is not installed' message. That's the result of checking that ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg exists and is executable. ${LOCALBASE} defaults to /usr/local. It seems you have only /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static so your installation of pkg(8) -- the actual pkg software -- looks to have fallen over somewhere in the middle. pkg-static is pulled out of the pkg.txz tarball and installed first, then that copy of pkg-static is used to do a full install of the entire set of stuff comprising pkg(8) from the pkg.txz tarball. That includes the dynamically linked pkg binary and numerous man pages plus various other bits and pieces. What it seems you are missing is are writable /var/db/pkg/ and /var/cache/pkg directories -- this are where pkg(8) holds its database of what packages have been installed, and where it holds copies of the package tarballs, respectively. It's definitely a bug that your procedure fails without any sort of error message. There should be load complaints from pkg(8) that it cannot initialize the database, but somehow those are not making it through to your console. You should see some messages if you try running= : /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static add /usr/local/pkg/pkg.txz and that should show exactly what pkg(8) is having trouble with. 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I have still problem tu run Blender built with Cycles option ON on my FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE (amd64). It doesn't start (Two passes with the same argument (-alloca-hoisting) attempted to be registered! Writing: /tmp/blender.crash.txt Segmentation fault (core dumped) ). With Cycles option disabled Blender start and works without problems. I did download "tbz" file for FreeBSD from blender.org and extract in user directory and it works, cycles works great. Today I checked /usr/ports/graphics/blender make depends and I got: ==> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libpng.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libpng.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libfreetype.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libunwind.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libunwind.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libOpenCOLLADABaseUtils.so - found (/usr/local/lib/opencollada/libOpenCOLLADABaseUtils.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libavutil.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libavutil.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libfftw3.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libfftw3.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libboost_thread.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libboost_thread.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libOpenColorIO.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libOpenColorIO.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libIlmImf.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libIlmImf.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libOpenImageIO.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libOpenImageIO.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libopenjpeg.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libopenjpeg.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libosdCPU.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libosdCPU.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libtiff.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libtiff.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: liboslexec.so - found (/usr/local/lib/liboslexec.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libjpeg.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libintl.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libintl.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libiconv.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libiconv.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libopenal.so.1 - found (/usr/local/lib/libopenal.so.1) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libalut.so.0 - found (/usr/local/lib/libalut.so.0) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libGLEW.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libGLEW.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libSDL.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libSDL.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libatk-1.0.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libatk-1.0.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libglib-2.0.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on shared library: libpango-1.0.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libpango-1.0.so) ===> blender-2.76b depends on executable: llvm-config34 - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on executable: update-desktop-database - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python3.4 - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on executable: msgfmt - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xmu.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xi.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86vm.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xi.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/bin/sdl-config - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on executable: gtk-update-icon-cache - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on executable: update-desktop-database - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python3.4 - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xmu.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xi.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86vm.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xi.pc - found ===> blender-2.76b depends on executable: gtk-update-icon-cache - found Any suggestion, please? Thank you. Stari K. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 15:57:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23001A69540 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D59A12D4 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0AFvRDE057520 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:57:28 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:57:27 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? Message-ID: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:57:38 -0000 Hi crew, hopefully refreshed and sharp as tacks from a holiday! I've been doing extensive testing of load average reporting using different eventtimers (HPET and LAPIC) on stable/9 on a Lenovo X200, 2.4GHz Core2Duo, at idle and with one, two and four fully CPU-bound processes that are configured to run for ~15.5 minutes on my system. When load averages are being correctly accounted, this produces results for one-minute averages of 0.00 at idle, 0.99-1.00 with one such task running, 1.99-2.00 for two and 3.99-4.00 for four, as expected. 5 and 15 minute LAs respectively take longer to get up toward the same points, and correspondingly much longer to sink back to 0.00, also as expected. When not being correctly accounted, in otherwise the same environment, this method provides good clues to the extent of errors over this range. For this I've been using a program of mine that I know only does a very large number of fixed and floating point operations, and beyond reading a config file and around 7 1/2 KB records, uses no I/O nor other system calls at all in its main loop, when configured with 'nowrite' - or each instance would generate a 2.4GB 72-minute 96kHz 24-bit stereo .wav file! However it's a large Pascal program, not ready for release nor in a form that others could readily use to reproduce my results, and I'm at the point where I need to be able to post a method of doing just that. So I'm looking for some utility, preferably in the base system but a port/pkg could do, that can just burn one CPU (ie is single-threaded) for a specified number of iterations. And not for a specified time - which would use system time to query time - nor in any interpreted (syscall-rich) language. A little pre- and/or post-loop reporting is not a problem. I'm likely missing something quite obvious; suggestions welcome. cheers, Ian (please cc me, I'm subscribed to the daily digest) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 16:49:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C04A6A9CF for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ED6D11A0 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0AGYAiP016102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:34:11 -0600 Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? To: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:39:40 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:49:28 -0000 On 01/10/16 10:03, Ian Smith wrote: > Hi crew, hopefully refreshed and sharp as tacks from a holiday! > > I've been doing extensive testing of load average reporting using > different eventtimers (HPET and LAPIC) on stable/9 on a Lenovo X200, > 2.4GHz Core2Duo, at idle and with one, two and four fully CPU-bound > processes that are configured to run for ~15.5 minutes on my system. > > When load averages are being correctly accounted, this produces results > for one-minute averages of 0.00 at idle, 0.99-1.00 with one such task > running, 1.99-2.00 for two and 3.99-4.00 for four, as expected. 5 and > 15 minute LAs respectively take longer to get up toward the same points, > and correspondingly much longer to sink back to 0.00, also as expected. > > When not being correctly accounted, in otherwise the same environment, > this method provides good clues to the extent of errors over this range. > > For this I've been using a program of mine that I know only does a very > large number of fixed and floating point operations, and beyond reading > a config file and around 7 1/2 KB records, uses no I/O nor other system > calls at all in its main loop, when configured with 'nowrite' - or each > instance would generate a 2.4GB 72-minute 96kHz 24-bit stereo .wav file! > > However it's a large Pascal program, not ready for release nor in a form > that others could readily use to reproduce my results, and I'm at the > point where I need to be able to post a method of doing just that. > > So I'm looking for some utility, preferably in the base system but a > port/pkg could do, that can just burn one CPU (ie is single-threaded) > for a specified number of iterations. And not for a specified time - > which would use system time to query time - nor in any interpreted > (syscall-rich) language. > > A little pre- and/or post-loop reporting is not a problem. > > I'm likely missing something quite obvious; suggestions welcome. > > cheers, Ian (please cc me, I'm subscribed to the daily digest) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Well, this (benchmarking) really strikes a chord w/ me, I have done *extensive* benchmarking of compiled code (simple benchmarking code & full-up analysis codes) under different compiler/OS combos over 25-ish years. FWIW most compilers I am familiar with have an option to compile single-core/thread/CPU code, which might serve your needs. Also most recent (last 15-ish years) pay attention to environment variables such as OMP_NUM_THREADS & kin, even if they don't use OpenMP coding/directives. This can be used to make 1 process use a specified number of threads/cores/CPU's, up to a compiled-in/hardwired limit. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:00:43 -0800 Subject: Packages Message-Id: <29B34DF5-41DE-4F05-8EBA-C6E5EFC77D8F@yahoo.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:03:32 -0000 How do I find the FreeBSD site for downloading packages for version 10.2 Sent from my iPhone From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 22:05:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F88A69C01 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E34211D3 for ; 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <29B34DF5-41DE-4F05-8EBA-C6E5EFC77D8F@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:05:45 -0000 Hi, Actually, if you have the package manager installed (aka 'pkg') it should have installed all the configuration files for the package repositories. It will default for the version you are on. (magic... :-) ) P. On 01/10/2016 17:00, john drake via freebsd-questions wrote: > How do I find the FreeBSD site for downloading packages for version 10.2 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 22:23:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470CA6B37F for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07A581B28 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsD9n-1aCRTA1jsl-013zRr for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:23:15 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:23:13 +0100 Message-ID: <17577602.tGVj8xh9ZI@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20160108230603.21237c30@jive> References: <20160107223738.1b874bba@jive.levalinux.org> <20160108050502.4512cc3a74ae262898d72ce9@sohara.org> <20160108230603.21237c30@jive> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:IfzKGx+O95oI2zeZWFHp/lR3MabJ0XUEQMEvEnC8EF9aQtSSZW9 pMxvr1FZA1NcMlkAx5B8Au5TjLJk5Fhu/ekl3GfIsfluwz66hYOLYoixElwAwRuj/868xTy oohUcZMcL2aq6QarJALhS5SnxU6gr7IMOgFSk/kg3VIWZKAClMRFMtUGUCb9WCV6X4r+N46 cTrzIjGVePvEJtzh2QI0w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3mU6Apa+HE8=:ZsPjTVdsujTri/h/WMhnM3 GKZFeBT+DS5fidqN8EjOXwGA1gtFlpo6DxOLKCs35nlo+GPLMFu5qeg+jRMW6zdjR32rKS6Lr eWO7fJHn+gsLOa+mHwlKoRlgpGq2mXWuYkw7c99TFk3bY1WYK1YWJw5FT3sHppnUL+g9rcbqp 5M+iRwIxT7CIWyiVXgzCq/Pb7y/El3bb5PQm6syjXXqFmvqWlIlWZ4tR/H66iK3mNhNzzOYJF 7ODKIf6ErDpLbRkULKnPkHW3UYErzWMhi0uqnd1uQx8crTXt/S25x7QTuahudWb3DTJ8QEvEG y+kSFLcCoFL0VKnWXTxFXtSKZ2P4jyh6FV0ZjLMEYluEsPEWfbumFjXHvIdEI9DTjQ1iQkv3F DmToXZpjFpNflsAzfbVp53DBVOTr35yLs5Ul7357KyP+owc4AguucDSD+IZ9DpPo2vo4S1ExD wfj/m8f2tyXuAG7QAqAngG1WI7g/phc5SiNIrKqqs5//7DMWt1ydNjPcu+eynqsB6EucjbSkl 9O953fmHZcrOq+LuxM7eqSwU6zG5nEYNbZSmfix6vnIkEC0bTZbLQAeXjTFc1kF3GTW7ZeUPn NqxLw9KOcjdf6gIJ6tquDWXdsH5VbJ+fp6piHAzbzbGG/XrzvkZojzYsMQJsMrePM3T/VxTcC FeY9FySi6HmMAnSkyxHpUQoq7EHGk20+TPIQTp2ojJalFA2snwAl/jjtfPuA7euoJ0rUhp8Lq tjpOoCP6h7kHnmU5HV04IMcBkjJWSo6klQ1Fcw1WK4gcJ5YG7KgXttYGx8ThmUcyVRusLyamJ AAjd6Ht X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:23:24 -0000 Lev wrote: > Yes, I have custom kernel. In that case, freebsd-update will *not* update the kernel. You'll have to update the kernel sources and run the whole "make buildkernel" etc. procedure on your own. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 22:26:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5302A6B491 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB55E1C3B for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A8D53A6B490; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A871BA6B48F for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 666691C38 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1452464789; bh=wISLyp4piIStN/1+GiCG0LYgvcI2nn+jn/ex6NTc+5w=; h=From:Date:Subject:To:From:Subject; b=p0nZjyHW0OXDVhQTPsz7Rbfflhyt9D+IvgNXOSXaGZ8MAcrSLNvHttPs/OqWfmsZwCKyRpHGwZtxfBdQ4NTx6FIxk2C1myQk1b5u8JuaGZeNNWHxtax1Kj+fgXW+zbDpCkK1Upitmcje0ETpDwsvDsxFbUANoltuneJ2TuAaG4VR+46/L3CmsImyPofTQWkN4zNdaK3auUIQSvcLzq0BGTLBnw+a2cCU/z+QpIsUKHAmSl0ol4wbF+LGkEvEbDZuwHWEj8I4L5Oue5ew6d8dALCFZfcLlGF6QTum9YsdOmKV1APu4gR0T4JOhpBNiwYJ8A5Pu2uq2Jy4VW67urcwDg== Received: from [98.139.170.178] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2016 22:26:29 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.71] by tm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2016 22:26:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp228.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2016 22:26:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 627988.61590.bm@smtp228.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: I4MXf8gVM1lPK3rXqFZd_Y8klNa5Z5OJ7dSJ2scJDv2tR6u PlTXhaXdRuSUkZWnFvnjRfsIKUj7Clauo.rndFH5uypG.1Hue4BOzDaOzlIW eigOgu1Qs12UMHQyiFO5tdwHR5wR.2FndVEsZcps90R32ZR_afJAjCXhTWVU xXU.ovcjt0DlDXTYp1jYLYi7TdD5_1XcK6N.flrkb8r7enLedK8uWeitDPo5 7.cnUXxnKEyn2Oev_NmyNw3UYecygd1yPIQWYZsS52A3oOkaFMTt_7PIDFrB jrR6pWNOdCBKBR6ijp.mOrSWbtoOgwQjWpkV7d9NubyCenwPAFrcneOXco1q S0BU70Z1m4XHP5UTtpxuH3SNYgpinMHE2qNnuD46rwaz3c1_lPoaIYLByIyr N8lpsHtcTR7uh.tfd1MSa5rZkGhLTxeSwdTKToKiN7aW22ML.UfXw_a4npew u_wbiWUmK0JoQUSuMlfr2a7fwUI4XpGmnnBcPCVhVfxKJLbEb7IpLczZ8.Qy WkDYRwwC1e2HggNnUfQ74yYBprYZ0TcPOKw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: EqlcfRSswBDyHGnv7_9yWbMffSHJ6eNoZA-- From: John Haraden Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:26:22 -0800 Subject: USE_GCC Message-Id: To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:26:31 -0000 I am running GCC on version 10.2. For the fortran compiler, the linker requires Wl, -rpath=3Dtarget library. However, there is a message saying this happens transparently for ports leve= raging USE_GCC or USES=3Dcompiler. What does this mean? How do I leverage G= CC? Where do I get USE_GCC? Where do I put USES=3Dcompiler? Sent from my iPhone= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 22:33:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB45A6B847 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C57A1341 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPqtK-1aDQje2BOc-004ynT for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:33:32 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:33:31 +0100 Message-ID: <28557739.c2Ugk6oZJK@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <29B34DF5-41DE-4F05-8EBA-C6E5EFC77D8F@yahoo.com> References: <29B34DF5-41DE-4F05-8EBA-C6E5EFC77D8F@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:IJzDvn4Ou42EuW3FsxPFMXTD8b0hy00ioiwg0ZuMgvkxmtzPEyw iFaDLgZFmux2ai7/n6UFL5Of5ocKiMVClfcKB9OCtSjutJiHeReYiPsK74I3WcKQijq73xp ssvR+coNmN9Ato7L+emyJ4nTuRrKDf04z72T+WbtpTX8+wn4ggUEIApaWRojZRHQdU+EM+0 mFK+WqJXcT9ye2WyWlkNA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:qwLq20PwESg=:DugrcA0WLXZ6cywKhwQLp6 6g2i04oaK6efHPdS3qBSdBGyf+djRVDalGVd6mTr5FUKLMHWXQUgDnn4qW67IGmoybCoCqeL3 jthr1t3ZeGtktG2DlSQT3dG8FOUMOpusAKiFrQ6JjHS7G0xNnLUwzppNs1WQnM7oD7liYFWvz tbYeveJ5Gu7iHqmauRtNrDUNi8FLmcJ15NByiHJ1CT3utwUT4EKioRAoIo79jcl8Fib/hN2Ue X88pQwFGn/fKdpaUQwcjpoY7XyjR+jSNHT7EJuVxjcA6o5L3OM69iXeFrwV9mcFQLz0p6eFVX 92If43m23w1NbABdn3VKoKXLuJaA6Pkwu20PO/ZGhw7qg+w+3Xvi7naIipyYqevulj666USVN +EkQl6zRArLNrtSuNpnSyc8BmuTaH5/7lqQR5eBgy0kAH+Hqe5aLebuyAD051jjq22XAcmp/F mOwbfcnJ9eHKwVy26vNWpOWyvWuhKOCwGmwnrlllwc5jvvOUAzXT3cWNTGMFRGBsBccF2oi9o ym/ghLvp7HGVxTjpjZZ9q5u+LGHv9tX+H/YMjZhqviveccEZwZ0EeBF+Kjc8QkHBNTtlORm8e aciX9dKxUKa45XKVq+aYy8RwiLgZJxNUYMZA1W9Ch+sTv2eENFQf289oPDK5ghJznewRpzrrJ BBuJoerIgOU24kcSKy2GuWi5YH/vTdcmcy+MKvP0YxR5L43SUv+DsZuAZsb4uVFUxz2tipllG whJATPSsXYM8jHM6usL6OBnayyEo39KMTSEiEgLBRX3BNib0mLA4rkbCqraeMRC9phS1JklmC WK6rjAt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:36 -0000 john drake via freebsd-questions wrote: > How do I find the FreeBSD site for downloading packages for version 10.2 The package repository is hosted on http://pkg.freebsd.org. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 10 23:02:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57B5A6A0C8 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 583A015A4 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u0AN2ZJ6056690 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:02:35 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk u0AN2ZJ6056690 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/u0AN2ZJ6056690; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: USE_GCC To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5692E303.7010501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:02:27 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HOu5TjeUcxdecQspCnwd0VDlEq8lPOhek" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:02:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HOu5TjeUcxdecQspCnwd0VDlEq8lPOhek Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/01/2016 22:26, John Haraden via freebsd-questions wrote: > I am running GCC on version 10.2. > For the fortran compiler, the linker requires Wl, -rpath=3Dtarget libra= ry. > However, there is a message saying this happens transparently for ports= leveraging USE_GCC or USES=3Dcompiler. What does this mean? How do I l= everage GCC? Where do I get USE_GCC? Where do I put USES=3Dcompiler? As a ports user, you don't deal with stuff like 'USE_GCC' -- that's for use when actually writing the port, something that really only port maintainers need to do. If you would prefer to use gcc rather than clang as your default compiler when building ports, then you can add this to /etc/make.conf: FAVORITE_COMPILER=3Dgcc On the other hand, if you are actually porting some software then the ideal in the ports is not to force usage of a specific compiler unless absolutely necessary. Instead, you tell the ports infrastructure what language features the software you're compiling has (eg. USES=3Dcompiler:c++11-lang -- the port is written in C++ according to the= 2011 standard) and the ports will pull in whatever compiler is available on your particular CPU architecture / OS version and that fits your FAVORITE_COMPILER preference as far as possible. USES=3Dcompiler:foo is not exactly an introductory level topic when starting to learn about the ports. Don't be afraid to ask for advice on the freebsd-ports@ mailing list if this is your use case. On the gripping hand, if you just want to compile some code outside of the ports, then *mostly* it's a case of setting make(1) variables like CC or F77 to invoke your preferred binary. Frequently you can do that at the point you run autoconf which will write that choice into the Makefiles it generates, but compilation systems vary. Yes, the particular compiler toolchain you choose will affect the arguments you need to give to control the linker or other components. It's best to give a lot more detail about exactly what it is you're trying to compile, what you tried, how you expected it to work and what actually happened. That way people can give you concrete advice rather than having to guess what you actually mean. 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I do not use many extensions but would like to use Html2Wiki. I have installed it according to the guide at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Html2Wiki. Therefore, I also installed textproc/hs-pandoc. When I add the line "require_once "$IP/extensions/Html2Wiki/Html2Wiki.php";" to LocalSettings.php and reloaded apache, the only thing to see on the wiki page is something like "Html2Wiki requires pandoc.". The pandoc command is in the path (I can run it from a shell). I hope anyone has a solution. Regards, Jon Theil Nielsen -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 03:15:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB03A6A800 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AE98113B; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id u0B36dBV073500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 10 Jan 2016 19:06:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id u0B36cO7073498; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 19:06:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01122; Sun, 10 Jan 16 19:10:48 PST Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 19:10:45 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: matthew@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "pkg: pkg is not installed" even after installing it Message-Id: <56931d35.1U3OAjwPQuA2rasY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56922538.7080105@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <56922538.7080105@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:15:48 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 10/01/2016 04:09, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > Why does it claim that pkg is not installed, when it just got through > > installing it? Or, if the install failed part way through, why was > > there no error message? ... > > What it seems you are missing is are writable /var/db/pkg/ and > /var/cache/pkg directories -- this are where pkg(8) holds its database > of what packages have been installed, and where it holds copies of the > package tarballs, respectively. > > It's definitely a bug that your procedure fails without any sort of > error message. There should be load complaints from pkg(8) that it > cannot initialize the database, but somehow those are not making it > through to your console. You should see some messages if you try > running: > > /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static add /usr/local/pkg/pkg.txz > > and that should show exactly what pkg(8) is having trouble with. That doesn't produce any output, either. However, after mounting tmpfs on /var/db/pkg and /var/cache, I got: # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg-static add /usr/local/pkg/pkg.txz Installing pkg-1.5.4... Extracting pkg-1.5.4: 100% ldconfig: mkstemp(/var/run/ld-elf.so.hints.6wHhnd): Read-only file system pkg-static: POST-INSTALL script failed Message for pkg-1.5.4: If you are upgrading from the old package format, first run: # pkg2ng # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg -N pkg: 1 packages installed This time it installed a bunch of stuff in /usr/local and a "local.sqlite" in /var/db/pkg -- but nothing in /var/cache, so maybe that isn't needed when installing from a tarball that is already local. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 05:04:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321E0A6B947 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0BF71F30 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0B545r1084916; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:04:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:04:05 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? In-Reply-To: <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:04:11 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:39:40 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:39:40 -0553.75 That's a seriously strange timezone you're inhabiting, Wiliiam .. fly.hiwaay.net processed this at Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:34:11 -0600 > On 01/10/16 10:03, Ian Smith wrote: [..] > > So I'm looking for some utility, preferably in the base system but a > > port/pkg could do, that can just burn one CPU (ie is single-threaded) > > for a specified number of iterations. And not for a specified time - > > which would use system time to query time - nor in any interpreted > > (syscall-rich) language. > > > > A little pre- and/or post-loop reporting is not a problem. > > > > I'm likely missing something quite obvious; suggestions welcome. > > > > cheers, Ian (please cc me, I'm subscribed to the daily digest) > Well, this (benchmarking) really strikes a chord w/ me, I have done > *extensive* benchmarking of compiled code (simple benchmarking code & full-up > analysis codes) under different compiler/OS combos over 25-ish years. FWIW > most compilers I am familiar with have an option to compile > single-core/thread/CPU code, which might serve your needs. Also most recent > (last 15-ish years) pay attention to environment variables such as > OMP_NUM_THREADS & kin, even if they don't use OpenMP coding/directives. This > can be used to make 1 process use a specified number of threads/cores/CPU's, > up to a compiled-in/hardwired limit. Thanks for your response. However I don't do C, and really need to find something out of the box that I can configure to run at 100% of one CPU for a specified number of iterations, which will then run for a certain amount of CPU time on my hardware, while always on the run queue. Anyone? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 06:11:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA055A6CA5A for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CH-Schneider-Hodorf@t-online.de) Received: from mailout01.t-online.de (mailout01.t-online.de [194.25.134.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 827E51AAA for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CH-Schneider-Hodorf@t-online.de) Received: from fwd12.aul.t-online.de (fwd12.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.241]) by mailout01.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id C416840301F for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:06:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (bHmieiZc8hOZlwMFAtqR7dsnt0sIK1Ozh03meQs0jZwr4I+JR8nO2XnW-4JLPebg9G@[99.1.151.86]) by fwd12.t-online.de with (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) esmtp id 1aIVcJ-10FP2e0; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:06:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]Urgent Price inquiry from Mr. Chip Leakas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Alibaba Group" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:06:08 -0600 Message-ID: <1aIVcJ-10FP2e0@fwd12.t-online.de> X-ID: bHmieiZc8hOZlwMFAtqR7dsnt0sIK1Ozh03meQs0jZwr4I+JR8nO2XnW-4JLPebg9G X-TOI-MSGID: f6ad1181-cc8f-4d5d-b30f-32e59778e361 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:11:54 -0000 = = This message was sent to you only freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Registered Location and Message Origin: UNITED STATES Message IP: 68.14.93= .* = = = = Product Catalogue Needed = Quantity Needed: 2 Containers (40"HQ) = = = Reply Now = Dear Seller freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, My company wants to place some trial order with your company. 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Thanks Mr. Chip Leakas. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 06:20:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA98A6CC69 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7539A1EC2 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0B6KttN025596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:20:56 -0600 Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? To: Ian Smith References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <569349C7.7010008@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:26:25 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:20:58 -0000 On 01/10/16 23:10, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:39:40 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:39:40 -0553.75 > > That's a seriously strange timezone you're inhabiting, Wiliiam .. > fly.hiwaay.net processed this at Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:34:11 -0600 Yeah, I setup my LAN boxen to echo times which match my wall-clocks, which I set about 6 min. fast, keeps me punctual :-) .... <*snip*> Anyone? cheers, Ian -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 07:20:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B73A6A026 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4A81644 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u0B7JvLl069023 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:19:57 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk u0B7JvLl069023 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/u0B7JvLl069023; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: "pkg: pkg is not installed" even after installing it To: Perry Hutchison References: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56922538.7080105@FreeBSD.org> <56931d35.1U3OAjwPQuA2rasY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56935795.5000207@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:19:49 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56931d35.1U3OAjwPQuA2rasY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H5kT41BsMOia3iHt8VhF76Rd2iLLDUAFa" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:20:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --H5kT41BsMOia3iHt8VhF76Rd2iLLDUAFa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/01/2016 03:10, Perry Hutchison wrote: > That doesn't produce any output, either. However, after mounting > tmpfs on /var/db/pkg and /var/cache, I got: Hmmm... that's certainly a bug. Could you open an issue at https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues please, explaining exactly what you did and what happened (or didn't as the case may be)? pkg(8) shouldn't die quietly in those or any circumstances. > # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg-static add /usr/local/pk= g/pkg.txz > Installing pkg-1.5.4... > Extracting pkg-1.5.4: 100% > ldconfig: mkstemp(/var/run/ld-elf.so.hints.6wHhnd): Read-only file sy= stem > pkg-static: POST-INSTALL script failed > Message for pkg-1.5.4: > If you are upgrading from the old package format, first run: >=20 > # pkg2ng >=20 > # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg -N > pkg: 1 packages installed >=20 > This time it installed a bunch of stuff in /usr/local and a > "local.sqlite" in /var/db/pkg -- but nothing in /var/cache, > so maybe that isn't needed when installing from a tarball > that is already local. That looks to have worked. Yes, if you use pkg add to install from a tarball directly on your system already, /var/cache/pkg isn't needed. However, it will be necessary as soon as you do anything like 'pkg update' or 'pkg install'. Curious as to why you're using an older version of pkg there -- we're up to 1.6.2 nowadays. 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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:04:48 +0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2016 08:04:49.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE22ABE0:01D14C46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:06:00 -0000 Hi everybody. I configured HAST on FreeBSD 10.2.=20 In order to increase speed of sending file between servers=2C I added comp= ression lzf=2C but I did not install lzf archive and Hast deos not complian= about that. How can I check hastd works with compression or not? =20 = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 10:41:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49CBA6CBCF for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF20A1498; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id u0BAVvcN004013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:31:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id u0BAVvxF004012; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:31:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02827; Mon, 11 Jan 16 02:15:27 PST Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:15:23 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: matthew@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "pkg: pkg is not installed" even after installing it Message-Id: <569380bb.RzRT7e3IydYemQSn%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56922538.7080105@FreeBSD.org> <56931d35.1U3OAjwPQuA2rasY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56935795.5000207@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <56935795.5000207@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:41:03 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 11/01/2016 03:10, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > That doesn't produce any output, either. However, after mounting > > tmpfs on /var/db/pkg and /var/cache, I got: > > Hmmm... that's certainly a bug. Could you open an issue at > https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues please, explaining exactly > what you did and what happened (or didn't as the case may be)? > pkg(8) shouldn't die quietly in those or any circumstances. I will try to get to it later this week. > > # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg-static add /usr/local/pkg/pkg.txz > > Installing pkg-1.5.4... > > Extracting pkg-1.5.4: 100% > > ldconfig: mkstemp(/var/run/ld-elf.so.hints.6wHhnd): Read-only file system > > pkg-static: POST-INSTALL script failed > > Message for pkg-1.5.4: > > If you are upgrading from the old package format, first run: > > > > # pkg2ng > > > > # chroot -u 0 -g 0 -G 105,0,5,20,25 /mnt pkg -N > > pkg: 1 packages installed > > > > This time it installed a bunch of stuff in /usr/local and a > > "local.sqlite" in /var/db/pkg ... > > That looks to have worked. Any concern about the POST-INSTALL failure due to /var/run being read-only? (That one is not as simple to fix as /var/cache and /var/db/pkg, since the memstick's /var/run is not empty.) > Curious as to why you're using an older version of pkg there -- > we're up to 1.6.2 nowadays. It is the version I downloaded from pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:x86:32/release_2/Latest on 12/21 (when I started on this exercise). If I'm remembering correctly, .../release_2 appeared to be the area which most nearly corresponded to what would have been current when 10.2 was released. I have gotten burned before by trying to install package sets that are newer than the release on which they are being installed -- sticking with what presumably worked at release time seems safer, at least to get an initial, working configuration. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 10:45:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B904A6CCFB for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4273187A; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (ceto.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.30]) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB5847CB042; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.33] (unknown [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0D7847CB041; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:43:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: "pkg: pkg is not installed" even after installing it To: Perry Hutchison , matthew@freebsd.org References: <5691d97a.VHZI0elGOQrdG7+e%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56922538.7080105@FreeBSD.org> <56931d35.1U3OAjwPQuA2rasY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56935795.5000207@FreeBSD.org> <569380bb.RzRT7e3IydYemQSn%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: JosC Message-ID: <56938745.2070500@cloudzeeland.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:43:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <569380bb.RzRT7e3IydYemQSn%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ceto.cloudzeeland.nl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:45:51 -0000 In een bericht van 11-1-2016 11:15: > I will try to get to it later this week. Perhaps a stupid remark but try periodic weekly first and check then again... Best regards, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 13:25:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5AEA69DA2 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622D81CE6 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [134.153.27.124] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7E615CF for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jonathan Anderson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: AVR programming on 11-CURRENT Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:55:02 -0330 Message-ID: <2DCB2502-F0C9-42F6-B1DF-293AE2E098C8@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.3r5187) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:25:18 -0000 Good morning, I'm attempting to program a Pololu 3pi AVR-based robot [1] using an STK500v2-compatible programmer [2] on 11-CURRENT. I'm not having a lot of success. I've seen a discussion from 2012 on this list [3], but that seems to be a different issue: I'm using the same command lines that apparently worked then with no success now. I've tried using the same avrdude command line as I would use from a Linux workstation, but with /dev/ttyACM0 replaced with /dev/cuaU0: ``` $ avrdude -p m328p -c stk500v2 -P /dev/cuaU0 -Uflash:w:assign0.hex:a ``` This command hangs indefinitely. When I enable more verbosity I see: ``` $ avrdude -vvvv -pm328p -c stk500v2 -P /dev/cuaU0 -t avrdude: Version 6.1, compiled on Oct 24 2015 at 06:47:13 Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/ Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Joerg Wunsch System wide configuration file is "/usr/local/etc/avrdude.conf" User configuration file is "/home/jon/.avrduderc" User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping Using Port : /dev/cuaU0 Using Programmer : stk500v2 avrdude: Send: . [1b] . [01] . [00] . [01] . [0e] . [01] . [14] ``` Using trace, I can confirm that the relevant bytes are being written to the file descriptor, but then avrdude goes into a loop of `select()`'ing the descriptor and reading 0 bytes: ``` 8440 avrdude GIO fd 2 wrote 65 bytes "avrdude: Send: . [1b] . [01] . [00] . [01] . [0e] . [01] . [14] " 8440 avrdude RET write 65/0x41 8440 avrdude CALL write(0x3,0x7fffffffdad0,0x7) 8440 avrdude GIO fd 3 wrote 7 bytes 0x0000 1b01 0001 0e01 14 |.......| 8440 avrdude RET write 7 8440 avrdude CALL select(0x4,0x7fffffffdae8,0,0,0x7fffffffdb68) 8440 avrdude RET select 1 8440 avrdude CALL read(0x3,0x7fffffffdbef,0x1) 8440 avrdude GIO fd 3 read 0 bytes "" 8440 avrdude RET read 0 8440 avrdude CALL select(0x4,0x7fffffffdae8,0,0,0x7fffffffdb68) 8440 avrdude RET select 1 8440 avrdude CALL read(0x3,0x7fffffffdbef,0x1) 8440 avrdude GIO fd 3 read 0 bytes "" ``` For reference, here is my dmesg output when I first plug in the programmer: ``` ugen2.8: at usbus2 umodem0: on usbus2 umodem0: data interface 1, has no CM over data, has no break umodem1: on usbus2 umodem1: data interface 3, has no CM over data, has no break ``` After I kill avrdude, the USB device disconnects and re-connects: ``` umodem0: at uhub5, port 3, addr 8 (disconnected) umodem1: at uhub5, port 3, addr 8 (disconnected) umodem0: on usbus2 umodem0: data interface 1, has no CM over data, has no break umodem1: on usbus2 umodem1: data interface 3, has no CM over data, has no break ``` Any ideas what might be going wrong here? Does anybody use 11-CURRENT with STK500v2-compatible programmers successfully? Thanks, Jon [1] https://www.pololu.com/product/975 [2] https://www.pololu.com/product/1300 [3] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/288334 -- Jonathan Anderson jonathan@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 11 15:44:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828C0A6AEE8 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 548961554; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u0BFi6no010851 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:44:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u0BFi6aG010848; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:44:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:44:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jonathan Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AVR programming on 11-CURRENT In-Reply-To: <2DCB2502-F0C9-42F6-B1DF-293AE2E098C8@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <2DCB2502-F0C9-42F6-B1DF-293AE2E098C8@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:44:07 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:44:14 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jan 2016, Jonathan Anderson wrote: > Good morning, > > I'm attempting to program a Pololu 3pi AVR-based robot [1] using an > STK500v2-compatible programmer [2] on 11-CURRENT. I'm not having a lot of > success. I've seen a discussion from 2012 on this list [3], but that seems to > be a different issue: I'm using the same command lines that apparently worked > then with no success now. > > I've tried using the same avrdude command line as I would use from a Linux > workstation, but with /dev/ttyACM0 replaced with /dev/cuaU0: > > ``` > $ avrdude -p m328p -c stk500v2 -P /dev/cuaU0 -Uflash:w:assign0.hex:a > ``` Might be worth explicitly setting the baud rate with -b. > Using trace, I can confirm that the relevant bytes are being written to the > file descriptor, but then avrdude goes into a loop of `select()`'ing the > descriptor and reading 0 bytes: Waiting for a response from the programmer, presumably. > For reference, here is my dmesg output when I first plug in the programmer: > > ``` > ugen2.8: at usbus2 > umodem0: 2.00/1.07, addr 8> on usbus2 > umodem0: data interface 1, has no CM over data, has no break > umodem1: 2.00/1.07, addr 8> on usbus2 > umodem1: data interface 3, has no CM over data, has no break > ``` The umodem0 and umodem1 are unexpected, but the Pololu website says they are a feature of this programmer. I've successfully used both a homebuilt USBASP and the Arduino-as-ISP programmers with various AVRS, but not the STK500v2. And those were not with -CURRENT. 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Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MiB 1.9MB/s 00:03 Processing entries: 100% FreeBSD repository update completed. 24877 packages processed. The following 10 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: awscli: 1.9.11 py27-rsa: 3.1.4_1 py27-pyasn1: 0.1.9 py27-setuptools27: 19.2 py27-colorama: 0.3.3 py27-botocore: 1.2.11 py27-docutils: 0.12 py27-jmespath: 0.9.0 py27-dateutil: 2.3 py27-six: 1.9.0 The process will require 27 MiB more space. 3 MiB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y Fetching awscli-1.9.11.txz: 100% 540 KiB 553.4kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-rsa-3.1.4_1.txz: 100% 50 KiB 51.4kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-pyasn1-0.1.9.txz: 100% 60 KiB 61.1kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-setuptools27-19.2.txz: 100% 231 KiB 236.6kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-colorama-0.3.3.txz: 100% 18 KiB 18.4kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-botocore-1.2.11.txz: 100% 1 MiB 665.1kB/s 00:02 Fetching py27-docutils-0.12.txz: 100% 600 KiB 613.9kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-jmespath-0.9.0.txz: 100% 29 KiB 29.8kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-dateutil-2.3.txz: 100% 189 KiB 193.8kB/s 00:01 Fetching py27-six-1.9.0.txz: 100% 16 KiB 16.4kB/s 00:01 Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) [1/10] Installing py27-setuptools27-19.2... [1/10] Extracting py27-setuptools27-19.2: 100% [2/10] Installing py27-six-1.9.0... [2/10] Extracting py27-six-1.9.0: 100% [3/10] Installing py27-pyasn1-0.1.9... [3/10] Extracting py27-pyasn1-0.1.9: 100% [4/10] Installing py27-docutils-0.12... [4/10] Extracting py27-docutils-0.12: 100% [5/10] Installing py27-jmespath-0.9.0... [5/10] Extracting py27-jmespath-0.9.0: 100% [6/10] Installing py27-dateutil-2.3... [6/10] Extracting py27-dateutil-2.3: 100% [7/10] Installing py27-rsa-3.1.4_1... [7/10] Extracting py27-rsa-3.1.4_1: 100% [8/10] Installing py27-colorama-0.3.3... [8/10] Extracting py27-colorama-0.3.3: 100% [9/10] Installing py27-botocore-1.2.11... [9/10] Extracting py27-botocore-1.2.11: 100% [10/10] Installing awscli-1.9.11... [10/10] Extracting awscli-1.9.11: 100% kudzu@ravelin:~ 117> aws s3 ls 'Session' object has no attribute 'get_default_client_config' kudzu@ravelin:~ 118> aws help 'Session' object has no attribute 'get_default_client_config' kudzu@ravelin:~ 119> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 00:48:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55BDA6BE5B for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x229.google.com (mail-yk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6466519E2 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-yk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id v14so357939254ykd.3 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:48:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/ORn6XeSckhZBqvNHh6sAQP/p5GvyEyT3v7T8ZK5520=; b=RNkdcoov+SVM1EH05rYnVrs8Ulpxhp4/YN5dkpBV/ht5S75HOHzUoZ9UVDdgNX3k61 k0mU6JGebTyFw9x0MAWkouyFNx1s52wImEfA1qOwKWUznccwZaraRJ4JSqgxPZ8rohmI heniiD4zWvimXhCi5JzmgQUsOyR2t/522jN/mA6CDYxU6ZtX8GzZ2HRRaNfL+ue1GcNQ Vr1rRJFG3hz2dcegHrvgrB9wgJnAzsuIZr9tu641FW0MsXPKQgTIOpaRffU3Rmz0FzCs xt7M5hwao4OWpdKjHcXK8+YS2Gv0+Z0TlUkzymSK9Lt7yDGCcnRa0auEbKnOzmKWxOe7 skSA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/ORn6XeSckhZBqvNHh6sAQP/p5GvyEyT3v7T8ZK5520=; b=cwCOZvLyVyMiWVMDhW6z6/TiB5wiZYDcs895S9v2bHJFcY00vMN2Rf26SgF/fwHhGe XRr5irLak7dK9qhJzYtrbkWVWDyHtto/43LhzpGikGuw/GC8j2xFbwbi538oHuOzcMWu HAKHNKxPOqDtiOvrzKCKXbKh1L+/+KjFG38YBUHin1pTxx6FSMYCEKbXD005BASy0plr F180SyOx8MEeq4f30Lw8zAuFsB2kCeCoHaoxvnIjPow3So9wT3GtMT5O/k5Mtn+/VImG G1jeHivT66HLTIs6lYeBQSIMtw03ORsi3sGG8PRUL6p9M/UkzUnJegaqOLqL8IXTjhE0 kVUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn+NbFfAvdWbeubizkTs5nJ9MWaI2tpe7p0bgqR7zLm/q0WwzQ+/sdGKg8UWn5Igs0TaX89++mvNHQ5utZRdxp8aFR5pTNNeLVFtvPzgxu+izaQH0w= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.203.71 with SMTP id n68mr93718816ywd.240.1452559704438; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.215.207 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:48:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:48:24 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: awscli pkg broken on 10.2 i386 From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions , alexey@renatasystems.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:48:25 -0000 Same problem when building awscli-1.9.11 from ports. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Transcript follows.... > > > kudzu@ravelin:~ 104> sudo pkg install awscli > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MiB 1.9MB/s 00:03 > Processing entries: 100% > FreeBSD repository update completed. 24877 packages processed. > The following 10 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > > New packages to be INSTALLED: > awscli: 1.9.11 > py27-rsa: 3.1.4_1 > py27-pyasn1: 0.1.9 > py27-setuptools27: 19.2 > py27-colorama: 0.3.3 > py27-botocore: 1.2.11 > py27-docutils: 0.12 > py27-jmespath: 0.9.0 > py27-dateutil: 2.3 > py27-six: 1.9.0 > > The process will require 27 MiB more space. > 3 MiB to be downloaded. > > Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y > Fetching awscli-1.9.11.txz: 100% 540 KiB 553.4kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-rsa-3.1.4_1.txz: 100% 50 KiB 51.4kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-pyasn1-0.1.9.txz: 100% 60 KiB 61.1kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-setuptools27-19.2.txz: 100% 231 KiB 236.6kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-colorama-0.3.3.txz: 100% 18 KiB 18.4kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-botocore-1.2.11.txz: 100% 1 MiB 665.1kB/s 00:02 > Fetching py27-docutils-0.12.txz: 100% 600 KiB 613.9kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-jmespath-0.9.0.txz: 100% 29 KiB 29.8kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-dateutil-2.3.txz: 100% 189 KiB 193.8kB/s 00:01 > Fetching py27-six-1.9.0.txz: 100% 16 KiB 16.4kB/s 00:01 > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > [1/10] Installing py27-setuptools27-19.2... > [1/10] Extracting py27-setuptools27-19.2: 100% > [2/10] Installing py27-six-1.9.0... > [2/10] Extracting py27-six-1.9.0: 100% > [3/10] Installing py27-pyasn1-0.1.9... > [3/10] Extracting py27-pyasn1-0.1.9: 100% > [4/10] Installing py27-docutils-0.12... > [4/10] Extracting py27-docutils-0.12: 100% > [5/10] Installing py27-jmespath-0.9.0... > [5/10] Extracting py27-jmespath-0.9.0: 100% > [6/10] Installing py27-dateutil-2.3... > [6/10] Extracting py27-dateutil-2.3: 100% > [7/10] Installing py27-rsa-3.1.4_1... > [7/10] Extracting py27-rsa-3.1.4_1: 100% > [8/10] Installing py27-colorama-0.3.3... > [8/10] Extracting py27-colorama-0.3.3: 100% > [9/10] Installing py27-botocore-1.2.11... > [9/10] Extracting py27-botocore-1.2.11: 100% > [10/10] Installing awscli-1.9.11... > [10/10] Extracting awscli-1.9.11: 100% > > kudzu@ravelin:~ 117> aws s3 ls > > 'Session' object has no attribute 'get_default_client_config' > kudzu@ravelin:~ 118> aws help > > 'Session' object has no attribute 'get_default_client_config' > kudzu@ravelin:~ 119> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 04:52:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80364A6D52B for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 04:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22a.google.com (mail-qk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4438B1959 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 04:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id p186so156969051qke.0 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:52:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FyLYmHGOoS0AZ28JQYYOWcL/UJt6AOCQc0oVds4oy6k=; b=SNnw1/iKXQgxKhMwPc+l3g/tBlVOk6aPQWrTegyzdE1zGh82qbOQb+KBgGuQsdQZ8r osmJxgtyyQzY8y03XtMBMEJnEfaPLWt7vyz+cm+Ntue0Nf1hcqU0UJHkHktkpVHrAdHy GfLV8WE6kCXq83x9oEbPb90d918W+nLq8DmlYGs18t1zAGmOKBBSd9HbR3uUL6IfS+eG XY4vFLAQoXHIAbSwP+oWWXtcGaKQpMzaOF5ploNaNyK95gMgv/pjPe3QeUtNbEsw9mIb 7LVAt9WEXqJbvUC8H2yRGALNDhwUVAs+cgezGGlXZIB58vtGZa2yumAwpjhKB0B1JGZR elbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FyLYmHGOoS0AZ28JQYYOWcL/UJt6AOCQc0oVds4oy6k=; b=BBUKYMLibCAlEF6/ia1Lq1IAmfJkgsIcl9EzKHL45p00Wc6LI08iiWOQEYfg3Iph3d ZWlwIMR4KOPTqgtsswLyynfMJdG1Jn3+/Vv6Jt2RldpZnb90bEgmfCaoAKKYUvuU1BGQ f/r7wtd80tlANaAAWmq5VfJneo1FN3+pDLsf8mpdWgAlg6pJBLRHSeLW1OeLjbWYmBJJ Yolb1b/jZIWKVE6LYmo5lJotk4M99xgXsN2GDkCowKaxRPkQnHPu3oSKmgIqzudYjL6b sJQMAvZfk0XE3qW6nBMa7nUhLX7i10uxk6i1hAJFaTUtRY8O4hK0XkX6I2EJdF4/JRar DnVA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmcETQYdn5tzxyov/IoIa5J/1QrWJp7RQNMJlbYnlB91YVL/5X9XZZEFQu97No+9YkYGZ8pMTjZQ4PuE5R+VrSQVAmf+NTaqEx+0rdJh5e3m0zZhY4= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.216.71 with SMTP id a68mr73439688ywe.0.1452574333926; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.215.207 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:52:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:52:13 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: awscli pkg broken on 10.2 i386 From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions , Alexey Degtyarev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 04:52:15 -0000 Installing the python package via pip works. Something is broken in the port/package for FreeBSD 10.2 on i386. - M On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Same problem when building awscli-1.9.11 from ports. > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Michael Sierchio > wrote: > >> Transcript follows.... >> >> >> kudzu@ravelin:~ 104> sudo pkg install awscli >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MiB 1.9MB/s 00:03 >> Processing entries: 100% >> FreeBSD repository update completed. 24877 packages processed. >> The following 10 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> awscli: 1.9.11 >> py27-rsa: 3.1.4_1 >> py27-pyasn1: 0.1.9 >> py27-setuptools27: 19.2 >> py27-colorama: 0.3.3 >> py27-botocore: 1.2.11 >> py27-docutils: 0.12 >> py27-jmespath: 0.9.0 >> py27-dateutil: 2.3 >> py27-six: 1.9.0 >> >> The process will require 27 MiB more space. >> 3 MiB to be downloaded. >> >> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y >> Fetching awscli-1.9.11.txz: 100% 540 KiB 553.4kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-rsa-3.1.4_1.txz: 100% 50 KiB 51.4kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-pyasn1-0.1.9.txz: 100% 60 KiB 61.1kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-setuptools27-19.2.txz: 100% 231 KiB 236.6kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-colorama-0.3.3.txz: 100% 18 KiB 18.4kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-botocore-1.2.11.txz: 100% 1 MiB 665.1kB/s 00:02 >> Fetching py27-docutils-0.12.txz: 100% 600 KiB 613.9kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-jmespath-0.9.0.txz: 100% 29 KiB 29.8kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-dateutil-2.3.txz: 100% 189 KiB 193.8kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching py27-six-1.9.0.txz: 100% 16 KiB 16.4kB/s 00:01 >> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >> [1/10] Installing py27-setuptools27-19.2... >> [1/10] Extracting py27-setuptools27-19.2: 100% >> [2/10] Installing py27-six-1.9.0... >> [2/10] Extracting py27-six-1.9.0: 100% >> [3/10] Installing py27-pyasn1-0.1.9... >> [3/10] Extracting py27-pyasn1-0.1.9: 100% >> [4/10] Installing py27-docutils-0.12... >> [4/10] Extracting py27-docutils-0.12: 100% >> [5/10] Installing py27-jmespath-0.9.0... >> [5/10] Extracting py27-jmespath-0.9.0: 100% >> [6/10] Installing py27-dateutil-2.3... >> [6/10] Extracting py27-dateutil-2.3: 100% >> [7/10] Installing py27-rsa-3.1.4_1... >> [7/10] Extracting py27-rsa-3.1.4_1: 100% >> [8/10] Installing py27-colorama-0.3.3... >> [8/10] Extracting py27-colorama-0.3.3: 100% >> [9/10] Installing py27-botocore-1.2.11... >> [9/10] Extracting py27-botocore-1.2.11: 100% >> [10/10] Installing awscli-1.9.11... >> [10/10] Extracting awscli-1.9.11: 100% >> >> kudzu@ravelin:~ 117> aws s3 ls >> >> 'Session' object has no attribute 'get_default_client_config' >> kudzu@ravelin:~ 118> aws help >> >> 'Session' object has no attribute 'get_default_client_config' >> kudzu@ravelin:~ 119> >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 08:05:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8E8A6D7D0 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC1521277 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u0C85jaj036114 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:05:46 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk u0C85jaj036114 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/u0C85jaj036114; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: awscli pkg broken on 10.2 i386 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5694B3D2.8090809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:05:38 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dVAar3rfmrMqO4nGKlhTJrx7e2JRxS835" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:05:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dVAar3rfmrMqO4nGKlhTJrx7e2JRxS835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/01/2016 04:52, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Installing the python package via pip works. Something is broken in the= > port/package for FreeBSD 10.2 on i386. Hi, Michael, Thank you for your report. This would have been better sent to the freebsd-ports@ list, but no matter. There is already a PR with patches to update awscli and dependencies: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D205949 As far as I can see, that's just waiting on maintainer feedback -- if the maintainer doesn't respond, it will need about another week before it times out and can be committed. However, if you'ld like to apply the patches to your ports tree by hand and add a note to the PR about the success or not of trying that, it would be appreciated. Note: the patches in the PR are in git-diff format, so to apply them to a ports tree checked out via subversion or svnlite or portupdate you would need to do something like (untested): # cd /usr/ports # patch -p1 awscli.patch # patch -p1 py-botocore.patch Cheers, Matthew --dVAar3rfmrMqO4nGKlhTJrx7e2JRxS835 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWlLPZXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATfNIP+wZr/OB77D/V+TSB0o79pNNC +unoBkXSkYhAk97ymPe3wGP8L3U4rk+k14Xfi3KsJYyTtKfBQhC0Oa9SVqr62CVm oqLuzJucbSa5RYXLT/iqwdMIBelQ+zGP7unZqcFrdqTPZQYzl7bQWj293ixrkEkj kjvkpkBd1YRC4kUiPGhTCgpGhuQXC9nFs1IDfAQd+7tFICz3qv2ei1+G5fxaJzgI EIQtX0b4TrMgvaiTqb16NwhSdvVPZHftXzJlXftnD2DBAfUjUbbVkinwMX+EjHBv FMQ8M9vkiKOVNBp/UsyUAFgpgDHaRd6/5yuQwCSQH4JTtguqhdWwoMvK30iR0ri1 21di0rJ0K+AYDJNv/IKEShOwn7x97K4X6rZXWGcDu6QHkd685Rwv6b0AC/qNJdyO 5Jc6Y7W3BBJ52Ni/8GJoYmYsr5ZxAb3wwRDQeH+jG5MbzZccbW8QNmpvxlmyrcyp lks+Bg8BiPOygyJ9snu89N0k+yH2+w6noPLgstIN18D5HjbLTB3hj9xN31hFrlrJ X3IzQ8F/WlmQdYkUTdc4kgZcESaOfWPHVoM7FbTprkvXCSdB6H8krhGEjVc1Zxks DPhZIXEo0sWsnD50Q7j9i4eRcQnaTjMgnj0FpRHSxlEqEk/3lILXqDzyyMvKiKfG u9zZo5z1DS7o2uWBqk3O =1rNK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dVAar3rfmrMqO4nGKlhTJrx7e2JRxS835-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 08:50:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89512A6BAA9 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bradleythughes@fastmail.fm) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4654B1DEE for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bradleythughes@fastmail.fm) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F1A20C93 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:49:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=ZIUrPUPIHrntiVj8pumDcX/F0eg=; b=KlZQYi IyJ32DqPrWrpRFjBuIoi7OEGjkHl5eka75PxZvSSL1aL7clicRreewFhlrkfA5mS HpcSFVBdeTgY7200/AJbUrV5xm1/0DnOJCScPkVtbID70OTBMaRPQLpsAYv73wN3 7RucXIYNg3ufA2v7nYYsgPu6toAqS7b/RS1Xw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=ZIUrPUPIHrntiVj 8pumDcX/F0eg=; b=VK00k9zqCh2HIYOzhF5fnX4VsX6dtFAPpNUEC0XWBun31Zg orNsjwWojPIS/x8rxr+pc4XyvMIpwK+OHlON1i7R4PkVYWdbxX0cMb8dLyPtk+7r gluorJ1ov5IfK+8qDJvMGnqCgHwxhh2m+iqm2LQQwXOhyC+LHDE/eZ8wGYOo= X-Sasl-enc: HI8VAB5OeuI/L9KrewWv7sGvIiaG7hOgm53x94ea8bn5 1452588594 Received: from [192.168.0.82] (ip84-247-143-201.breiband.no [84.247.143.201]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0F7A3C00017; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:49:53 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: awscli pkg broken on 10.2 i386 From: "Bradley T. Hughes" In-Reply-To: <5694B3D2.8090809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:49:53 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5694B3D2.8090809@FreeBSD.org> To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:50:01 -0000 > On 12 Jan 2016, at 09:05, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > On 12/01/2016 04:52, Michael Sierchio wrote: >> Installing the python package via pip works. Something is broken in = the >> port/package for FreeBSD 10.2 on i386. Specifically, it is because the py-botocore dependency is out of date, = cf. https://github.com/aws/aws-cli/issues/1670 > Hi, Michael, >=20 > Thank you for your report. This would have been better sent to the > freebsd-ports@ list, but no matter. >=20 > There is already a PR with patches to update awscli and dependencies: >=20 > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D205949 >=20 > As far as I can see, that's just waiting on maintainer feedback -- if > the maintainer doesn't respond, it will need about another week before > it times out and can be committed. My fingers are still crossed :) > However, if you'ld like to apply the patches to your ports tree by = hand > and add a note to the PR about the success or not of trying that, it > would be appreciated. >=20 > Note: the patches in the PR are in git-diff format, so to apply them = to > a ports tree checked out via subversion or svnlite or portupdate you > would need to do something like (untested): >=20 > # cd /usr/ports > # patch -p1 awscli.patch > # patch -p1 py-botocore.patch Since the patches are just version bumps, it's possible to do the change = by hand too. Just change the version numbers in the Makefiles and run = `make makesum` in both ports. # vi /usr/ports/devel/py-botocore/Makefile # vi /usr/ports/devel/awscli/Makefile # make -C /usr/ports/devel/py-botocore/ makesum # make -C /usr/ports/devel/awscli/ makesum And then you can update the ports (e.g. using portmaster og = portupgrade). Good luck (and please drop a comment on PR 205949) :) -- Bradley T. Hughes bradleythughes@fastmail.fm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 10:58:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCE3A6D5E9 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S30.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s30.hotmail.com [65.55.111.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF83B1F2E for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP62 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S30.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:57:39 -0800 X-TMN: [tH0dsMorVW56fHRnUQH4D+KjBQrYEcZY] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Manish Jain Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:27:17 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2016 10:57:36.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C15C940:01D14D28] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:58:47 -0000 Hi, I am on FreeBSD 10.2 (amd64). I have a Nokia 225 mobile which has a microSD card. When I attach the mobile via USB to my computer, the following pops in dmesg : umass0:6:0:-1: Attached to scbus6 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device da0: Serial Number 537907604942000 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 3796MB (7774208 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 483C) da0: quirks=0x2 I was wondering whether it would be possible to mount the microSD disk in my filesystem. Thanks for any help. Regards Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 11:28:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5261A6C29F for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 649AF113B for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id f206so314925149wmf.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:28:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0YrwDYnUTWEfwVgdT2/5Q02tQpL+I+qZWuzYdAvmrAs=; b=r98eBLdepeHXnjWIvqeJsopIYD9eaSyuI0ygIwvr6+/wvwpJjdrc8BN/V0MXz/eayV YmkycV31QjXp9XO15+WiGMPDcZwl4MotpZIOzgW/CzpnQpseO9Q3iaNgTLexznBIQDgp zbEArT7wM5l5pyS/Ex5d1vpwK7EBzt8CHnUWfgzs0neN9ttbKHeh+gaL/p7r0NmS4lFa lxX5yd+hzl8tmZ5WCaQB/Qyl51cqY7s0W97tf7DL4/+lesHt3IU8ah0H+6cqx/w6WOZV dAN7yfEzmTYV8BlaOknfTDp3kp9YRlt4Qh3O/itF31Ca/HN8trp1n2AUR0VV6uCJPtZw x2xg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.127.85 with SMTP id a82mr20501004wmd.48.1452598095589; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.55.132 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:28:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:28:15 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? From: krad To: Manish Jain Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:28:18 -0000 trying to do it will probably give you the best answer. Just make sure there is nothing critical on it that is not backed up On 12 January 2016 at 10:57, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi, > > I am on FreeBSD 10.2 (amd64). I have a Nokia 225 mobile which has a > microSD card. When I attach the mobile via USB to my computer, the > following pops in dmesg : > > umass0:6:0:-1: Attached to scbus6 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device > da0: Serial Number 537907604942000 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 3796MB (7774208 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 483C) > da0: quirks=0x2 > > I was wondering whether it would be possible to mount the microSD disk in > my filesystem. Thanks for any help. > > Regards > Manish Jain > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 11:45:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F784A6CAE6 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17D2E1B61 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-208.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD91F24D04; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:45:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u0CBj3HH006727; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:45:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:45:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? Message-Id: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:45:14 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:27:17 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > I am on FreeBSD 10.2 (amd64). I have a Nokia 225 mobile which has a > microSD card. When I attach the mobile via USB to my computer, the > following pops in dmesg : > > umass0:6:0:-1: Attached to scbus6 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device > da0: Serial Number 537907604942000 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 3796MB (7774208 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 483C) > da0: quirks=0x2 > > I was wondering whether it would be possible to mount the microSD disk > in my filesystem. Thanks for any help. Depending on the file system, you might need to try which mount option you'll need. For example, if this is a DOS (FAT) formatted device, something like # mount -t msdos -o ro /dev/da0 /mnt might work. Check the partitioning (if you need to access it vial /dev/da0 or /dev/da0s1). The file system type can be identified with the command # file -s /dev/da0 or applied to /dev/da0s1 (as mentioned above). In some cases, it's required to "re-taste" the device. The command # true > /dev/da0 will do this. As I said, the file system type matters. If it's NTFS, install fuse and use its NTFS module. Also look at "man mount" if there are options that you'd find handy, such as -r (or -o ro), as well as -m, -M, or -o noatime. When everything works as intended, create an entry in /etc/fstab. It could look like this: /dev/da0 /media/sd msdosfs rw,noauto,noatime,-m=644,-M=755 0 0 See "man 5 fstab" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 12:37:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DB6A6B5A4 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC2S34.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s34.hotmail.com [65.55.111.109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E77441762 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP120 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S34.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 04:37:12 -0800 X-TMN: [CWJWP6sCd1Skl/4zGBhNlzoBOHfG6Exf] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? To: Polytropon References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kraduk@gmail.com From: Manish Jain Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:06:39 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2016 12:37:09.0685 (UTC) FILETIME=[F43F4E50:01D14D35] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:37:13 -0000 On 01/12/16 17:15, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:27:17 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> I am on FreeBSD 10.2 (amd64). I have a Nokia 225 mobile which has a >> microSD card. When I attach the mobile via USB to my computer, the >> following pops in dmesg : >> >> umass0:6:0:-1: Attached to scbus6 >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device >> da0: Serial Number 537907604942000 >> da0: 1.000MB/s transfers >> da0: 3796MB (7774208 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 483C) >> da0: quirks=0x2 >> >> I was wondering whether it would be possible to mount the microSD disk >> in my filesystem. Thanks for any help. > Depending on the file system, you might need to try which > mount option you'll need. For example, if this is a DOS (FAT) > formatted device, something like > > # mount -t msdos -o ro /dev/da0 /mnt > > might work. Check the partitioning (if you need to access > it vial /dev/da0 or /dev/da0s1). The file system type can > be identified with the command > > # file -s /dev/da0 > > or applied to /dev/da0s1 (as mentioned above). > > In some cases, it's required to "re-taste" the device. The > command > > # true > /dev/da0 > > will do this. > > As I said, the file system type matters. If it's NTFS, install > fuse and use its NTFS module. Also look at "man mount" if there > are options that you'd find handy, such as -r (or -o ro), as > well as -m, -M, or -o noatime. > > When everything works as intended, create an entry in /etc/fstab. > It could look like this: > > /dev/da0 /media/sd msdosfs rw,noauto,noatime,-m=644,-M=755 0 0 > > See "man 5 fstab" for details. > > Hi Polytropon/Kraduk, Thanks for responding. I have been left looking a bit of a fool here. The first few times I attached the card, the messages popped up in dmesg alright. But there was no /dev/da0* device, and I was utterly confused. The confusion became confounding when I just attached the card this last time, and whoa ... the file manager pops up a prompt to open up the microSD disk drive, and the /dev/da0[s1] devices are there, of course. I have no idea whether this is a problem with my FreeBSD system or a problem with the mobile/card or no problem at all. I have no idea too what will be the results when I attach the card the next time. But I do remember something which might be relevant. A couple of months back, I attached the mobile+card to Windows XP a few times. 5-6 times the device manager showed an unknown device, and the final time I attached it, the drive in the card magically popped up. This gets besides the FreeBSD issue but makes a nice story. I took the mobile to the authorized Nokia dealer, and he said the microSD card is not supposed to show up at all with the handset model I have. I even verified this in front of me with a brand new handset (same model) and brand new microSD card. As per him, the error was not the 5-6 times device manager showed unknown device, but the final time when the disk showed up. He further stated that the mass storage device is supposed to work only when the Nokia connectivity driver is installed. I returned home, installed the driver and - yes - the card attaches consistently and smoothly. Now the wheel starts spinning all over again in FreeBSD : - ) Any clues / tips ? -- Regards, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 13:36:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCC8A6D3CD for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4DE21A62 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-208.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E4162785F; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:36:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u0CDae1N007925; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:36:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:36:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kraduk@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? Message-Id: <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:36:44 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:06:39 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > I have been left looking a bit of a fool here. The first few times I > attached the card, the messages popped up in dmesg alright. But there > was no /dev/da0* device, and I was utterly confused. The confusion > became confounding when I just attached the card this last time, and > whoa ... the file manager pops up a prompt to open up the microSD disk > drive, and the /dev/da0[s1] devices are there, of course. Okay, so a file manager (which one?) with automount functionality is in the mix, too! Well, this makes things more complicated... :-) > I have no idea whether this is a problem with my FreeBSD system or a > problem with the mobile/card or no problem at all. It might as well be the file manager or the automount magic behind it which is not reacting properly to the appearing and disappearing of the device. > I have no idea too > what will be the results when I attach the card the next time. But I do > remember something which might be relevant. A couple of months back, I > attached the mobile+card to Windows XP a few times. 5-6 times the device > manager showed an unknown device, and the final time I attached it, the > drive in the card magically popped up. Maybe "Windows" needed to "repair" it? Perform a file system check just to be sure. Sometimes, this kind of "repair" results in corrupted file system structure or damaged files. > This gets besides the FreeBSD > issue but makes a nice story. I took the mobile to the authorized Nokia > dealer, and he said the microSD card is not supposed to show up at all > with the handset model I have. Yes, some devices actually do not support da (direct access) at all. They instead require a specific mechanism called MTP (media transfer protocol), which is comparable to PTP used by some digital cameras which don't have da capabilities as well. In this case, "mtp-tools" is a good way to start. Additionally, check all the relevant settings of the device which could be related to storage, networking, and so on. > I even verified this in front of me with > a brand new handset (same model) and brand new microSD card. As per him, > the error was not the 5-6 times device manager showed unknown device, > but the final time when the disk showed up. He further stated that the > mass storage device is supposed to work only when the Nokia connectivity > driver is installed. Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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([2001:b07:2eb:f465:10d0:ee5b:910a:6927]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g187sm18048521wmf.8.2016.01.12.07.49.47 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:49:48 -0800 (PST) From: Marco Rodolfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Can someone delete rodomar705_gmail.com phabricator on reviews.freebsd.org Message-Id: <192C972D-BBFE-424D-BED7-3A6CA20AE0B8@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:49:47 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:49:51 -0000 I would like to reregister with my proper username, i can=E2=80=99t = really know where that user name comes from. Sorry for bothering. Thanks.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 15:56:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1933BA6C192 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC2S4.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s4.hotmail.com [65.55.111.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE94A13C2 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP77 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S4.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:56:26 -0800 X-TMN: [hGZwBcXFc4C/bN2nOoTtVyteOoi3g/tY] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? To: Polytropon References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kraduk@gmail.com From: Manish Jain Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:26:02 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2016 15:56:23.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[C93FB3E0:01D14D51] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:56:33 -0000 On 01/12/16 19:06, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:06:39 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> I have been left looking a bit of a fool here. The first few times I >> attached the card, the messages popped up in dmesg alright. But there >> was no /dev/da0* device, and I was utterly confused. The confusion >> became confounding when I just attached the card this last time, and >> whoa ... the file manager pops up a prompt to open up the microSD disk >> drive, and the /dev/da0[s1] devices are there, of course. > Okay, so a file manager (which one?) with automount functionality > is in the mix, too! Well, this makes things more complicated... :-) > > > >> I have no idea whether this is a problem with my FreeBSD system or a >> problem with the mobile/card or no problem at all. > It might as well be the file manager or the automount magic behind > it which is not reacting properly to the appearing and disappearing > of the device. > > > >> I have no idea too >> what will be the results when I attach the card the next time. But I do >> remember something which might be relevant. A couple of months back, I >> attached the mobile+card to Windows XP a few times. 5-6 times the device >> manager showed an unknown device, and the final time I attached it, the >> drive in the card magically popped up. > Maybe "Windows" needed to "repair" it? Perform a file system check > just to be sure. Sometimes, this kind of "repair" results in corrupted > file system structure or damaged files. > > > >> This gets besides the FreeBSD >> issue but makes a nice story. I took the mobile to the authorized Nokia >> dealer, and he said the microSD card is not supposed to show up at all >> with the handset model I have. > Yes, some devices actually do not support da (direct access) at all. > They instead require a specific mechanism called MTP (media transfer > protocol), which is comparable to PTP used by some digital cameras > which don't have da capabilities as well. In this case, "mtp-tools" > is a good way to start. > > Additionally, check all the relevant settings of the device which > could be related to storage, networking, and so on. > > > >> I even verified this in front of me with >> a brand new handset (same model) and brand new microSD card. As per him, >> the error was not the 5-6 times device manager showed unknown device, >> but the final time when the disk showed up. He further stated that the >> mass storage device is supposed to work only when the Nokia connectivity >> driver is installed. > Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? > > > > > > > << Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? >> No, AFAIK. But I do wish ... -- Regards, Manish Jain +91-70731-76333 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 15:59:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2191CA6C315 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92F8C1620 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u0CFxK0U062099 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:59:20 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk u0CFxK0U062099 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/u0CFxK0U062099; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be zero-gravitas.local Subject: Re: Can someone delete rodomar705_gmail.com phabricator on reviews.freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <192C972D-BBFE-424D-BED7-3A6CA20AE0B8@gmail.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <569522D1.4010401@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:59:13 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <192C972D-BBFE-424D-BED7-3A6CA20AE0B8@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dlLfG9GvR2eKXiS67KVQeoMl2T4mtrxA2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:59:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dlLfG9GvR2eKXiS67KVQeoMl2T4mtrxA2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/01/12 15:49, Marco Rodolfi wrote: > I would like to reregister with my proper username, i can=E2=80=99t rea= lly > know where that user name comes from. Sorry for bothering. Please can you send this request to phabric-admin@FreeBSD.org ? 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Il giorno mar 12 gen 2016, 16:59 Matthew Seaman ha scritto: > On 2016/01/12 15:49, Marco Rodolfi wrote: > > I would like to reregister with my proper username, i can=E2=80=99t rea= lly > > know where that user name comes from. Sorry for bothering. > > Please can you send this request to phabric-admin@FreeBSD.org ? > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 16:49:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98C3A80B0B for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E832125D for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id f206so260649289wmf.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:49:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hardenedbsd-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LTeslCMuC7pIKFBsznSDwFEgi3ssL2bgF0Ip7FhUq4Y=; b=BZ/Vgl+alJQVD0sDWcOF7U4X6/4T7WrNpJaBAxfS2mb1flIxa6QC0bV+lea1kUc9UO rWDrbUvUSoFBfxw8ZjK/E2iH6tHXqomqFo3Gt2TV4tyYBUvNaZB/XW8L+Pkri1hm3yA+ WSokTONcVgat6KokX/ZZ+2KiFIwzyPX8J9gUma8KOml8Nd3qYBQ5pgPQRJmkJfYR7Nbd Z8AlA+hzz8Dm4q57RPVFJVia6kWXcmT8imSrqE6730gihFPAaLClo5osy2JS0skTaSO1 DTAg/DCB0fo4I75ykLsBlkgGT3n30JQVFf0l1+rc7iAbfzt1RQcVt11KSvp7hULmjuCK SYVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LTeslCMuC7pIKFBsznSDwFEgi3ssL2bgF0Ip7FhUq4Y=; b=ipwllblz6Op8H9KkPNUgKifyfSyIM+IkCTezl/o3QXmEKrgoiPSabPdwByv870NMTn 13jxQ2YdGjgHJjw79OAZjMD+WoZHyuKMA0KVXrjRdMzITmBafTtxxNz0iydT7iefeHZ7 JpdyN92AywSDeQwFCSGxPMR6+W9/NsK7gtYW3Yt5jLoOMPTtxh6K194G7NC7gh6GtpFP JmNwt4WL5O75EfdjxukEcP+x+rGVQGEzBe02yIGDPoOxcH+EazBn4YXXRmhyXxZVQrEl 7JuLRWNNDjTyxKrf7PeMFlejem7hYDLfklPJrq8KY5y/+4F18nmQSWIijBNCt9x2cUOY NN+A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnV84L6R8iTA8jB1vTVXasEsVsjgTLnifaBHmVTjt3tKFDq9lDk8GNCYB0jSY+euCyiPdAFKCj2US+v1i0T44fG5aQ4Td2A+GEeQwo8lzif2zff1Oo= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.57.214 with SMTP id g205mr10384591wma.20.1452617373744; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.85.167 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:49:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151224181308.GZ3625@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20151224173146.H8562@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <567BA5BB.4020304@rvijay.me> <1450970960.25138.242.camel@freebsd.org> <20151224181308.GZ3625@kib.kiev.ua> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:49:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Need help with New Build -- Skylake From: Oliver Pinter To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: Ian Lepore , Vijay Rajah , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:49:35 -0000 On 12/24/15, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 08:29:20AM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: >> We had exactly this symptom -- long delay with spincursor before >> loading the kernel -- on arm systems when we first enabled forth in >> loader. The problem turned out to be the fact that loader was running >> with instruction and data caches disabled, and it took about 90-100 >> seconds to parse the 547 lines of text (almost all useless) in >> /boot/defaults/loader.conf. We stripped that file down to the dozen or >> so lines that actually needed to be there and booting became much >> faster. Eventually we got the caches enabled in the prior-stage >> bootloader and it became really fast. > > It is highly unlikely that caches are the source of the slowness. On > x86, we rely on the firmware (BIOS or EFI) to properly configure both > DRAM controllers and caches. More, Intel considers the corresponding > controllers configuration recipes as highly secret and, even for BIOS > vendors, Intel provides the binary blob of code which does the config > magic, instead of the documentation. > > That said, loader runs in the unpaged protected mode but reflects BIOS > calls into the real mode. Quite possible, either the real mode is > slow on SkyLakes, or even more possible, the switch between real and > protected mode is slow, or the protected mode without paging enabled is > slow. Or might be the PCH lacks the ISA timer. Seem like the issue is affects the legacy boot mode, in UEFI mode the system boots blazingly fast. When I have more time, I try to figure out what's the problem behind this issue. > > A developer needs the real machine to diagnose the cause. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 18:09:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EBCA6CB55 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x234.google.com (mail-vk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DDBF1480 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x234.google.com with SMTP id k1so247547275vkb.2 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:09:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YqDENGd8Zb07jAMhDHOgBxh5J6RXSWR8d4R1POKhMzQ=; b=Z4+gIhoW4ANywZc0k6z8D2vr8o/6SbqnTPdThPnNRmyk/6Hadc+iXiJ7ERVBH6v1rd XQTXRk136oAwkUseo7PxTCNx52S6ESKRAZgyXAb3X6PozB7oUZT+XC1eEaylzxEy1kS5 LipE/FK5dVoYQ+Z1qQedFLkoub9voZ2jjqkYyNcGmnrF/wrASjfwiGA2lIWBmRKqEZCd LHkF0g+wxvI9xzeZ0RQzhNY7Z05KuhBajcze/7Aq06YRGdiz1dTck/6rlDMjXvCll3uT SdClfB8U92T6gMB8b6gyrPwAX4K6kjChwjxukF3Jn9l3bJTG+NJ0aytc/XSWPLe6G1kJ nj9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YqDENGd8Zb07jAMhDHOgBxh5J6RXSWR8d4R1POKhMzQ=; b=bR84lEta2fkyX4pH5SEazGV3yL6QhxUppiJIW8Dx+wD15LFtVNiHxCPWmjlFlFnNoJ 5asDrFJ0oYS/H9322ptqFLfyHkyZ+yP8v6VoYod3iinh4UZ9RuV86XhEmK+AmeG6dqyE GTnpNdYP+XJD4SjgwVoMF9dCRRLuyi8Kjy8qejdOMiJxOXO1OVMLR9c0BkzyJFlXobBs HvSDgDb4MM9saNrjOEbvae2dwU27k1JSBATJHQBAeFl73VbYeGel1bvwIBHOYhLL/prh RGg33MsCDrbEjHehJdzrcgULAOZY/CJa0Mrq7j6yS2FQqbMgFkUAnZ1kcHQmVri8cbOa pa5g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlyirTxljXQZCh8EMRtbCOGnb4z1TTRExutd+mBalUQRSpn+ykW7cZpB0efLFZgSsF4Qk4G4Wbl4+F+vr7bDTHRMA7tUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.2.82 with SMTP id 79mr94835657vkc.22.1452622149065; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.174.132 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:09:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:09:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Gnome 3 Shell's "View Type" toolbar button freezes shell From: Sergei G To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:09:10 -0000 I have installed Gnome3-lite package instead of a full Gnome installation. When I open a shell window it works ok. Toolbar's buttons for Search and menu work. But if I press a button that's usually responsible for sort order it works, but then freezes the window: * click on the button * menu list with options to sort by Name, Size, etc shows up * click on menu item * popup does not go away and window is no longer responsive. The only way to close it is to use xkill. When I initially installed Gnome3-lite, I found that it did not create .config/ directory and I had to create some file to get things working. I wounder if a problem like that might be the cause. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 18:36:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD375A80785 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63F0A1CE1 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0CIaUXP077794; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:36:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:36:30 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: kpneal@pobox.com cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? In-Reply-To: <20160111203832.GC88498@neutralgood.org> Message-ID: <20160113052558.R93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20160111203832.GC88498@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:36:38 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:38:32 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 04:04:05PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > Thanks for your response. However I don't do C, and really need to find > > something out of the box that I can configure to run at 100% of one CPU > > for a specified number of iterations, which will then run for a certain > > amount of CPU time on my hardware, while always on the run queue. > > Won't this reproduce your results? > > Two compilations: > > /* main.c */ > int main() { > for (;;) > dummy_function(); > /*NOTREACHED*/ > return(0); > } > > /* dummy.c */ > int dummy_function(void) { > return 0; > } > > cc -c main.c > cc -c dummy.c > cc -o load1 main.o dummy.o > > One invocation of this program should consume an entire CPU and therefore > raise the load average by 1.00. Run as many as you like. > > (The reason for the two compilations is to avoid having any compiler > optimize away the for loop. Just to be safe.) Thankyou Kevin. Works a treat, so far tested 8 at once, loadavg = 8.00 I'll follow up hopefully tomorrow with results of a sh script to run a given number of instances for a given time, needing a bit more testing. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 12 21:02:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B8BA8040A for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinsurvivor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x234.google.com (mail-pa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED4B315D8 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinsurvivor@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x234.google.com with SMTP id uo6so329226408pac.1 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:02:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xO9EBHUv7SeCb2pVbkgCwAz08HixKwvEWI/STLGocuc=; b=cVJJE3DA9RfLbL7z2rzQikmjYixoAmzWp7uaEiPSnQjMCNISd0nP22HrPTkRbZxTFo Kr+8qMWHAZTb4vxiTbNf2H6qDhXxfSDjzVGc4qNIBhL/rPGXJiKlm0D2QelNOuFo8rY5 jAxEzRmZ9J+KIfpyNi4wCoVxoFYiW3Jw6BPaydev2noXw24w8W8/GE9wMXQuyDxMTebU aRMpm10j543Ye0m4VaSGti+qoKEVeC/+h3cRVX0tJTM+4pot7RCATuukLIjNENWdJAXV 1/jDFXwS0HKhit9S/0gK03Focvl81KkMxgEj67xS2qGD4L3RNWaD1ttp483RmElqHHbt DXoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xO9EBHUv7SeCb2pVbkgCwAz08HixKwvEWI/STLGocuc=; b=AVddSCt02EwuxY/gK8GU8Piebt7AM1bm79HzBDHM4DUDwfIHPwcjZn1KMkwYC7AP2y 5xc/cba0zEP3vN92+ZFoyHPv0AiQvOPKXlTAc2j0VdEbjuqgNtOAeaQuW0sxeqvNc7ha oJhdxBAZUWKdveAt2xG5bDXikxFuWjhau8RQnKCoc//oy/enb78G6U1A4ojYU1lZs9a3 kN07h3G3P8GEpIBTroAkhaEqrDbYzb/LsSD7a8Z7AQ9tNWJaTAVnurhzb+RdKB67RjRP /XzJBjrLbI7ONz3gF1IfsoR5fumBxa1kKidydCkPkKidiQWbfNsxf1d5nMtNem4/ibLY jI2A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbXybbryLy1mE3pYPD7OZIIt+2p2qRxNxiHwaI1k3oGlBnAv9DO8qzr5f1RmWx5gx942nXF73yOguLwGIjbJt6MqzjBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.255.97 with SMTP id ap1mr56779871pad.135.1452632546625; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.67.17 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:02:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160113052558.R93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20160111203832.GC88498@neutralgood.org> <20160113052558.R93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:02:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? From: "darwinsurvivor@gmail.com" To: Ian Smith Cc: kpneal@pobox.com, "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:02:27 -0000 Have you looked at the sysutils/stress utility? It may do what you need. ~Doug On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:38:32 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 04:04:05PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > > Thanks for your response. However I don't do C, and really need to > find > > > something out of the box that I can configure to run at 100% of one > CPU > > > for a specified number of iterations, which will then run for a > certain > > > amount of CPU time on my hardware, while always on the run queue. > > > > Won't this reproduce your results? > > > > Two compilations: > > > > /* main.c */ > > int main() { > > for (;;) > > dummy_function(); > > /*NOTREACHED*/ > > return(0); > > } > > > > /* dummy.c */ > > int dummy_function(void) { > > return 0; > > } > > > > cc -c main.c > > cc -c dummy.c > > cc -o load1 main.o dummy.o > > > > One invocation of this program should consume an entire CPU and > therefore > > raise the load average by 1.00. Run as many as you like. > > > > (The reason for the two compilations is to avoid having any compiler > > optimize away the for loop. Just to be safe.) > > Thankyou Kevin. Works a treat, so far tested 8 at once, loadavg = 8.00 > > I'll follow up hopefully tomorrow with results of a sh script to run a > given number of instances for a given time, needing a bit more testing. > > cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 01:29:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFDDA6E81D for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 01:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24DC91616 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 01:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-208.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 156242502D; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 02:29:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u0D1TrL6002051; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 02:29:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 02:29:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kraduk@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? Message-Id: <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 01:29:58 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:26:02 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > << > > Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? > > >> > > No, AFAIK. But I do wish ... There are probably alternatives, such as using MTP, and as I said: There are several settings that you need to check in the device itself. The key procedures are: a) enable regular USB direct access storage - will then work as expected b) enable MTP USB storage - use corresponding tools I can't imagine that smartphone vendors make it artificially hard to access USB storage to a point where they require proprietary programs and drivers... but you never know; I don't trust those shaving mirrors any further than I can throw them. ;-) Maybe this can help: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2012-November/020801.html I wasn't able to locate the mentioned section in the current version of the handbook. :-( Also check The FreeBSD Forum (the web forum) for posts regarding how to mount a smartphone, this will probably be helpful. As I mentioned, there are also MTP-related tools for FUSE (sysutils/fusefs-simple-mtpfs) which might actually work as intended. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 04:22:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5074A80814 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25272195D for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.23]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MYwyp-1afQo70WSh-00VjUD for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:22:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 19:23:36 -0900 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: dc(1) bugs Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:DYp2Pt3s/VH8zbeS0ZGZGo2eOvzgmqsGLr8DVOF0KZbuL0pOxRz 8H7MvV8Y4y5iuDP8zrP7ctrCv7kBp0G6gPahsHbfuKYGhMISLnVHvm9LqoEvDjhrMajqxCK HCjywi+qk25Ey9/mYIzgTnOOCdif/JnQh28Gwi2ChXC5qH2FULMLbg9Rbvic4GUzafkMEcl x4D4AgYH2a6kRarEobQLA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:xg4EhsjPEZA=:qSkos3BKlTGgw1gVfnqgY5 Nn5aUqcMe5hj1Nr4W0ADi5XLM+mtndvWI6jXkhJBQggVdNCSPJJ6i7QuOpeiajZb4WwB11yo7 G+V7itKSFCXyG3rKjYd9N3uay6Pbb+gadeobkVB3ykH8xbRSy4qa/hzLT525nNyBcnP5YFytf UvNhHIy0KxOLUWQ9COFxoju6eQtQWblQ1WtmqaMcpEkDOyQQeTLZj3mk+v0N34sTcVxaeQbp/ gE+ykf1kcqQvmZHO23jcAUCxjmMBHhgpfGGjxNzziIRK1t40QiG2ilAADYZV+0QsdFqtyGbxA 1f19qNWVnHloF2mvKDv/RA7DuR3DrkkgVUpn14aLDkkUwBCFpijIsr5S76Otq+nUFd+1VhgFA Hb8tYe4Fh/qF8rTD6LmE7A8xxEWaFVaKIOCcgrDW5f4Z+cEq3UMeHHG4UN9F+IRu80kfNalJK VZfLplChdXvpKupmsl6uf/MNa3E1d7QO+VqEaxXN1L8goqclWonL/6Wd1YBAS05faoHJJYJk0 F4K0run+CBWYdtOlkx5onjSxrJ+XnVa9f4WhbJoa8ykPC0lZ0tRkcS3asPhr67X21el9Q74S9 dkWAuNLj2pWAbMGyJ2Ia1kUIyqLEKiRhBPRWGm5XH4g0FbXWL3gQ1wcl6+8YByBq+w8bK6CES oYGJaqNrAoRgkvfBGGu7MajsvGIZ3r1/PslegOt+MqEvbO1gNxHW68kZ0fCQmOTLf/S7Ywk95 bwhHxtha/esvo28ZZbhkk8i0F2Zmc/8F7HMJddKv64tnEOFjwSpRyOYYG0s= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:22:50 -0000 FreeBSD-9.3 dc(1) These appear to be bugs to me, but please verify if possible: ##### FIRST ##### $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.1vp' 0 $ dc -xe '50k10o16i.1vp' 0 $ dc -xe '50k10o10i.1vp' 31622776601683793319988935444327185337195551393252 This should be telling dc(1): a) scale is 50 (in decimal) digits. b) output in base16, base10, and base10 respectively. c) input will be in base16, base16, and base10 respectively. d) take the square root, and print it to the display. Of course, the 3rd example above is correct, but the first 2? Why 0? ###### SECOND ###### $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.4 2^p' 0A $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.0Avp' 2C572B0D5A1443EC508B9E24D8DF392750959EE138 This should be telling dc(1): a) scale is 50 (in decimal) digits. b) output in base16, input is now base16. c) square "0.4", and print it to the display (result=0.0A). d) take the square-root of "0.0A", and print it to the display. Of course, the square-root of a squared number should result in the orginal number. But, this is not happening. ##### THIRD ##### $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.4 2^p' 0A $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.40 2^p' 1000 $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.400 2^p' 10000 $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.4000 2^p' 1000000 dc(1) is supposed to be precise in the digits it calculates, but here? Something is not right about these results, or so it appears to me. ###### FOURTH ###### $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.1vp' 0 $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.10vp' 3EB4F9D9B6D094C33D38373D38777A7D9233A1B0FB $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.100vp' 3FBE55183CA5ADC8B39B27C6258E4C7E64338B909F $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.1000vp' 400000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Checking the result of the THIRD example, dc(1) is not outputting to the scale specified, and despite having all a scale of 50, they are all giving different results with inputs having a scale of only 1/2/3/4; Something seems broken to me. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 05:47:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396ADA6D18B for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 953FE1820 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.2.187]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mex5B-1aYJLy2OGf-00OTbA for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:47:35 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1aJEHO-000Jj3-OT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:47:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:47:34 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dc(1) bugs Message-ID: <20160113054734.GA75312@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:oeppEn26xRqKIz+lenVW5bdSJphF64CgjecONtLPpnxnvrXGkGh nPh/0Tvq44jdrCrQx0T3LjonYqFVehlJwUZuBOCzdcnkAtOYU5opO9QD8Gpu9glF2txtPrr V0ryyUCqKhRIyRN2uD3PuZkAkaAk4rYWxfwk814pzrUYy9vOgy2IPepiv/LU+2XW/aLs828 VrFh5iCZpHLIekbOMQANA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Tf05BMFOcJc=:VHwLPaQOYWFT5dHeI0mv9K IuU9/03O+90uboUvMi7ViULu8AvzYrxgAch79A0+MIERNGazL2X8FH/WjhRU22Q9WA4GH0Zov 5Oo2o9d3RT7xbhkxoTggTdf1F9nwsiehSYvYFvYENBpaxpFrwowDGWIe+oo8uNYdL0wmcDIjm PIaTDWcgLYeSqTPosl2iCkuoLHr/Mx/29f2rECttd3iWK6jk2A6+0s9MEosxygNyN/pvJjO2d 662lCiX9kakuNaF0D0jdLx6P75Ur8w6IHgxqhivBIugq3YBiUWUtxKFWk8sDZ4EiWb2/SOQGq sbeJaFe6S2ZaKCLdoHyGokn/Nul67toBw4eFo355WozEMjvMt3qGzQG+SzxdlhWQqEI4VVKUM tsN6wC8slKGkimKkUZUyoiBU5DeCtMP7bZmNAFMeIYAGMa7TAZupbn3Bo7krK6iCFj53eR6D/ T7bxBYKaoCNdKfymqVxSSvbolOK19lqcvLDJU+zBGmf9h4jVL3btCgGo7gak+cZUc/+fdnTVl Os1vFp/G44HCmxcRY4M0OnSXwJ3hMEKes4TyBgMMEgkXe2BGAbIXs65OKFVl98Xo5Q4yyPBlL QX0mhjlB/y9TSt7MJSFy0tlIhrjMwTNuVVhxTigv1TtMJDYpqudi7KiqfR0mRINX+0QhqDk06 DxZvk2+q5IoRT3YK5WmZoOSPpw4FFfSnvWiKXAtZmPNK+fJVMkG6Srw8V2SZtB/EHc+4= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:47:39 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday, 12. Jan 2016, 19:23:36 -0900, CK wrote: > These appear to be bugs to me, but please verify if possible: > > $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.1vp' > 0 > $ dc -xe '50k10o16i.1vp' > 0 > $ dc -xe '50k10o10i.1vp' > 31622776601683793319988935444327185337195551393252 First of all: $ cat '50k10o10i.1vp' I do not expect "dc" to be a well-tested tool. Probably 100k*more people use software like WordPress etc. My way to do calculations is in Ruby, mostly by pipe or self-written commands in Vim. Surely there are similar ways to do such things using Perl or Python. If you really insist on "dc" you shouldn't be afraid of debugging that. Let me propose to remove "dc" from the base system because fixing the bugs is too much work in respect to what installable tools provide nowadays. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 07:28:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B822AA8054C for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CF451CE1 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.23]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M70Td-1Zvecq2dU5-00wmG6 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:28:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:29:02 -0900 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: dc(1) bugs Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0MGSDw-1aNbRn0GKO-00DEp9@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4OiOqcfUCIREj2uiPiR1qwATxftGtUADmNpZVMUOCuFpWq9IceM +NArF7vVPTXCTqukOH1dHjMP//yYRiFTcgl96GyMn2KVALYU9yQ6xfkTIyXelAPHLjk3S81 8ZV2UMlibg6h4o8vUk8RZz8J2ZBYeMWBecjoB4PVCkchTbmsqIjnrFDoVs5Gao6rnjVsojd BVJsG9+YUD7Vixx4C7P1A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Jl98H9NNq18=:tQd31kGhwgkaz4AIeCplOg LuaudJ07ylsPOysSkswH0HWu3Du1x5uy38rZy7waYl+h3nmVsx71srgsvcLXPLJGT2UmjV4TT bJOP23O/Gc3lwzhfeidTG9eCAcK/s8ocg3MALqT9qKqSc3XHg7ZixdE+4VMgLDsFZWPyzmDm6 3UdNKlv+P7GgcoX2rDyC9iyy/ar+QcFkD4I/t/PNnruJmyeAXHUNIifP//o3DVGYYBWlPo0li q3Od/vlY8dMkUGU1G4X5vxlQBCv2pYP5iBJfZJsBt575hqbQq15/wcVg23+53x+6PBXebh0lI HSVOuV7wsQlQ0zEHPsQsCFck5h3Fz4aVletBJg0elV4h+4bZPKGx+y4fzFzXZwtFMOI0NkoRJ S9c4Lvoj6xv85Q5Y9mdtEffrnaIXkJKq1kPnpfh9q9ll1ipI4OKWLgXIDasMCzqJrq86c1zzq xpuIgqX9RtJJtUW8dJfCyLodRognHExg1IQjncKR5en7f2phbZNHJAdThuNbjIQqRG5nTqhay 5WClInm9ktoQBSDEt0M6zzOkCTpkyyFPiO5nsrJjG5OknZDsPaVdHf5kaAFhEWXw2orUBvs1o /wAaNhFTyeY+zQeJDAMsXm5DIjhMtjF7ZLLK4O0gW+/xVjGAq7kLIovAbyX2TU2Ekc2DNFpXB Z0NKoXcPm/yaEqOU+i59VEOTozM5sslnGk8IavL7F8NFBajYvzXD7fThRrT8eRPPYK2NGD5rH eR9OwNpGrlcBtt5cebpQuIe3W0GFVbCcmkiGcykQ4+ZPO0P+pmYCoPo/nHo= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:28:10 -0000 I expect it to be a well-tested tool, since it is the oldest tool, part of the UNIX base system, and the only tool that will peform arbitrary precision calculations on a command-line and in a shell script and other programs that make use of those capabilities. Supposedly, OpenBSD rewrote it to make use of their "big num" library (or something similar). Anyway, it is an important and valuable tool for the shell, and what WordPress has to do with anything related to dc(1) I certainly do not know. Most people don't use FreeBSD either, does that imply removal from the system? Ruby and Vim are not arbitary precision programming languages. I don't care for any of those languages: Ruby, Python, Perl, etc. Awk/Mawk is perfectly satisfactory for anyone that knows C, and far faster. No, it doesn't have libraries like the others, but that is what C is for. Anyway, the question was to verify that these are indeed bugs before submitting a bug report. > I do not expect "dc" to be a well-tested tool. Probably > 100k*more people use software like WordPress etc. > > My way to do calculations is in Ruby, mostly by pipe or > self-written commands in Vim. Surely there are similar ways > to do such things using Perl or Python. If you really insist > on "dc" you shouldn't be afraid of debugging that. > > Let me propose to remove "dc" from the base system because > fixing the bugs is too much work in respect to what > installable tools provide nowadays. > > Bertram > > > -- > Bertram Scharpf > Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany > http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 08:43:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4099CA81578 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC2S30.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s30.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F421B1966 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP211 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S30.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 13 Jan 2016 00:42:45 -0800 X-TMN: [y1sj93mPIDbSo3qDC76TGjRlDsBaqn3h] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? To: Polytropon References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kraduk@gmail.com From: Manish Jain Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:12:23 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2016 08:42:43.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E972FE0:01D14DDE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:43:54 -0000 On 01/13/16 06:59, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:26:02 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> << >> >> Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? >> >> >> >> >> No, AFAIK. But I do wish ... > There are probably alternatives, such as using MTP, and as I said: > There are several settings that you need to check in the device itself. > The key procedures are: > > a) enable regular USB direct access storage - will then work as expected > > b) enable MTP USB storage - use corresponding tools > > I can't imagine that smartphone vendors make it artificially hard to > access USB storage to a point where they require proprietary programs > and drivers... but you never know; I don't trust those shaving mirrors > any further than I can throw them. ;-) > > Maybe this can help: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2012-November/020801.html > > I wasn't able to locate the mentioned section in the current version > of the handbook. :-( > > Also check The FreeBSD Forum (the web forum) for posts regarding how > to mount a smartphone, this will probably be helpful. As I mentioned, > there are also MTP-related tools for FUSE (sysutils/fusefs-simple-mtpfs) > which might actually work as intended. > > > My phone is not a smartphone. I belong to the eccentric variety with a strong preference for traditional, buttoned handsets. I so much wish with nostalgia for the old days when Sony Ericsson and Nokia made such fantastic handsets. Now everything is lousy touchscreen. -- Regards, Manish Jain +91-70731-76333 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 09:09:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018C8A801B4 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCD31187D for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-208.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53AE2278CE; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 10:09:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u0D99jK5006001; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 10:09:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 10:09:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kraduk@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? Message-Id: <20160113100945.1974319e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:09:49 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:12:23 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > > On 01/13/16 06:59, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:26:02 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > >> << > >> > >> Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? > >> > >> >> > >> > >> No, AFAIK. But I do wish ... > > There are probably alternatives, such as using MTP, and as I said: > > There are several settings that you need to check in the device itself. > > The key procedures are: > > > > a) enable regular USB direct access storage - will then work as expected > > > > b) enable MTP USB storage - use corresponding tools > > > > I can't imagine that smartphone vendors make it artificially hard to > > access USB storage to a point where they require proprietary programs > > and drivers... but you never know; I don't trust those shaving mirrors > > any further than I can throw them. ;-) > > > > Maybe this can help: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2012-November/020801.html > > > > I wasn't able to locate the mentioned section in the current version > > of the handbook. :-( > > > > Also check The FreeBSD Forum (the web forum) for posts regarding how > > to mount a smartphone, this will probably be helpful. As I mentioned, > > there are also MTP-related tools for FUSE (sysutils/fusefs-simple-mtpfs) > > which might actually work as intended. > > > > > > > > My phone is not a smartphone. I belong to the eccentric variety with a > strong preference for traditional, buttoned handsets. Okay, in this case, the use of the internal storage is probably not as easy as it should be. I fought with a Motorola "flip-phone" via USB and finally gave up: The manufacturer doesn't seem to be interested in following established standards and procedures. :-( Anyway, checking out MTP and reviewing the device's settings can't make things worse. Maybe it's still possible to access it somehow. (If not - why not remove the micro SD card and use it in an adapter or internal reader? I'm doing this with my digital camera and my "MP3 player shift-phone".) > I so much wish > with nostalgia for the old days when Sony Ericsson and Nokia made such > fantastic handsets. Now everything is lousy touchscreen. Looking at it is mandatory, and the things you need to look at are beneath your fingers. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 09:14:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B682A8050D for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.70.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AA41D65 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from outbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071C5552F8; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:13:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.gradwell.com (HELO arthur.home.qeng-ho.org) (212.11.70.4) (smtp-auth username arthur@pop3.qeng-ho.org, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:13:13 +0000 Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? To: Polytropon References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <56961522.8090405@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:13:06 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gradwell-MongoId: 56961529.17f3f-2b89-1 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: arthur@pop3.qeng-ho.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:14:28 -0000 On 13/01/2016 01:29, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:26:02 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> << >> >> Is such a driver available for FreeBSD (or at least for Linux)? >> >> >> >> >> No, AFAIK. But I do wish ... > > There are probably alternatives, such as using MTP, and as I said: > There are several settings that you need to check in the device itself. > The key procedures are: > > a) enable regular USB direct access storage - will then work as expected > > b) enable MTP USB storage - use corresponding tools > > I can't imagine that smartphone vendors make it artificially hard to > access USB storage to a point where they require proprietary programs > and drivers... but you never know; I don't trust those shaving mirrors > any further than I can throw them. ;-) Reality can always beat imagination. :-) My wife's latest smartphone only supports MTP, not direct USB disk access. The excuse is along the lines of "direct disk access lets you alter bits you probably shouldn't, so we only support MTP for your protection". Or in plain English, "we've dumbed it down for idiots, so the intelligent must act like idiots as well". -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 11:54:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EC8A802FC for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D88B51F6E for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=94KAmkCOjgave2Zwirqr84mh/lvaLUrVwZmSBsH/V/E=; b=qWMJzfOoU9q+9nSe3/hsNSe3eP XN5ffr5iax4StJ9L3+p9L+R+ltcemDG/1MBw2MqvJUmqwFzndX61rJSNxe+qu2zGZbTJcOHfgeLMD 4RENiR8t/1txLcjiaf3ffTkO3iYyInnDzEEuH80qnzfFgiNbfQE49xe4vm9y6809EXrg=; Received: from [114.124.26.192] (port=12272 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aJJAN-003QtB-L8; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:00:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:00:33 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Yuri Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: "fsck -y /" keeps saying "Disk is still dirty" no matter how many times I run it Message-ID: <20160113190033.5e40842a@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <56902DB8.9080907@rawbw.com> References: <569017FF.9060509@rawbw.com> <20160108211722.71ab0408.freebsd@edvax.de> <56902DB8.9080907@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:54:22 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 13:44:24 -0800 Yuri wrote: > On 01/08/2016 12:17, Polytropon wrote: > > This seems to indicate a massive file system defect. Using > > "fsck -fy /" enables fsck to use its full spectrum of repair you must run fsck on th eunmounted device to get the best result. > > (in comparison to -p "preen mode"). Check if_the same_ problems > > re-appear. In this case, they could not be fixed properly > > and the file system won't get the "clean" indicator. > > I had to run 'fsck -fy' ~10 more times until the problem is gone. > > First time that I saw such an extensive damage. It was just sume which is hard to fix on mounted device. Erich > > Thank you, > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 13:58:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30660A817FA for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C51B13A8 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0DDvwRa020242; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:57:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:57:58 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "darwinsurvivor@gmail.com" cc: kpneal@pobox.com, "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160114000637.U93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20160111203832.GC88498@neutralgood.org> <20160113052558.R93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:58:04 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:02:26 -0800, darwinsurvivor@gmail.com wrote: > Have you looked at the sysutils/stress utility? It may do what you need. > > > ~Doug I have now, thanks :) It works well, given I've only tested the -c CPU load option so far. If I'd found it sooner, I might not have bothered compiling Kevin's little program and writing the below script to do about the same thing with it .. but I'm grateful for the exercise! > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:38:32 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: [..] > > > cc -c main.c > > > cc -c dummy.c > > > cc -o load1 main.o dummy.o > > > > > > One invocation of this program should consume an entire CPU and therefore > > > raise the load average by 1.00. Run as many as you like. > > > > > > (The reason for the two compilations is to avoid having any compiler > > > optimize away the for loop. Just to be safe.) > > > > Thankyou Kevin. Works a treat, so far tested 8 at once, loadavg = 8.00 > > > > I'll follow up hopefully tomorrow with results of a sh script to run a > > given number of instances for a given time, needing a bit more testing. So here; both this and stress give equivalent results with 2 to 8 tasks; over 4 I'm running into overheating (~90C), acpi_thermal kicking in, CPU slowing apparently - but it is summer, and still ~28C|82F at midnight! #!/bin/sh # 12/1/16 add2load.sh thanks Kevin Neal for load1 C code me=`basename $0` [ ! "$1" ] && echo "usage: $me tasks(1-12) [seconds (dflt 930)]" && exit 1 tasks=0; [ $1 -ge 1 -a $1 -le 12 ] && tasks=$1 [ $tasks -eq 0 ] && echo "$me tasks ($1) must be 1..12" && exit 1 [ "$2" ] && secs=$2 || secs=930 # default 15.5m ok=''; [ $secs -ge 20 -a $secs -le 1800 ] && ok=y [ ! "$ok" ] && echo "$me seconds ($secs) must be 20..1800" && exit 1 echo "`date` $me running $tasks load1 tasks for ${secs}s" bgpids='' done=0; trap "done=1; sleep=0" int quit term while [ $done -eq 0 ]; do while [ $tasks -gt 0 ]; do ~/bin/load1 & bgpids="$bgpids $!" tasks=$((tasks-1)) done sleep $secs done=1 done kill $bgpids || echo "$me: error killing pids $bgpids" echo "`date` $me done" trap - int quit term exit 0 cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 14:23:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65C8A80115 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD221C36 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0DENFRc021048; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 01:23:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 01:23:15 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "darwinsurvivor@gmail.com" cc: kpneal@pobox.com, "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task to busy one CPU 100% for a period of time? In-Reply-To: <20160114000637.U93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: <20160114010606.X93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160111002439.Q93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <56928802.2040802@hiwaay.net> <20160111154616.G93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20160111203832.GC88498@neutralgood.org> <20160113052558.R93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20160114000637.U93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:23:19 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:57:58 +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > echo "`date` $me running $tasks load1 tasks for ${secs}s" > bgpids='' > done=0; trap "done=1; sleep=0" int quit term Oops, s/sleep/secs/ .. only added for extremely unlikely case one might hit ^C during starting up the load1 task/s, so untested. > while [ $done -eq 0 ]; do > while [ $tasks -gt 0 ]; do > ~/bin/load1 & > bgpids="$bgpids $!" > tasks=$((tasks-1)) > done > sleep $secs > done=1 > done And a missed tab .. too darn hot tonight :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 14:40:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BECAA80851 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99A76176C for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id f206so297030011wmf.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:40:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rSh9l4e6d67s0f1H3x6Oici4rIEhjvV9jyjJldy8rfM=; b=oF/MvOVdXXNfvTGaBqmhmILb6GkWwQN5AOo9v8F8Ckt/6uyRFukrsGbd+bgTRsjZpv ISw2EfVXDryfruM8loz/c5YIHO8DTTFrSzcvXtd1qJ9rdkZSGLasQ6fg4jpYILhCHcIA aBRTHQKyRrBce0sa4/gcH4oxEyenczk3Iw9MaLGXsfFbIKDx9XELU/w8kDMCcrh56Fz1 x3m/pPNCXgiWM2jvMNHjgY7ikORiTwMVMAtsPGuJP9P+SoOL6OII5jUQ2pdxeYw1zcQ+ XnRihp4UjJWQJeMBTcmOHyjuqyLtj3WQ68EjmOZBGY91btNPLXbWVSM7KTO2ikWmKO9o 0qTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rSh9l4e6d67s0f1H3x6Oici4rIEhjvV9jyjJldy8rfM=; b=OgRuv6slDo2y0LQUrqTC5bWXwgyWtrepol0lwXSxv9O9JW29zGSMemW0HlN4Gq8nCe zWdtwTll8WQPXXKhPn1AuUwYdQNu/FP47P8IejWQRCLL1vQtb7+jLZJOcmsnH8piSl1c sV2wuBnzSeirbYIahPHACmhDwcR0g0u++O2yNe7h12Q5wIo/DgMhiRSijaHDk2WXU5Q0 dLErqhUsZhPm/9j29PxWwbNTcYPcEK2jLr5y866MDf/OblT52Bq5LVFT/Yt/AhTE+vsf Nv91naHq4y+EIsVsB0Fe0G6F4jrjfhLJtQrpOjxGtRYhUVg9dLnnZGzlG8U8kgjTXGFv 0Saw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnyBgWBenKbtUSpziO1KCbLNJN7bi0l37AM3gtGyAQSlVCAB2fYIggfk2KTnBadPNsJ1dm8paXoiNoj/hrBFRCOY9rq3Q== X-Received: by 10.194.90.243 with SMTP id bz19mr148203327wjb.128.1452696000976; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.216.221.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wx2sm1740344wjc.27.2016.01.13.06.39.59 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:39:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:39:57 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dc(1) bugs Message-ID: <20160113143957.3817341a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20160113054734.GA75312@becker.bs.l> References: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> <20160113054734.GA75312@becker.bs.l> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:40:03 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:47:34 +0100 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > I do not expect "dc" to be a well-tested tool. Probably > 100k*more people use software like WordPress etc. > > My way to do calculations is in Ruby, mostly by pipe or > self-written commands in Vim. Surely there are similar ways > to do such things using Perl or Python. If you really insist > on "dc" you shouldn't be afraid of debugging that. > > Let me propose to remove "dc" from the base system because > fixing the bugs is too much work in respect to what > installable tools provide nowadays. I think what you are missing here is that dc and bc are part of the POSIX standard. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 15:58:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA17BA80449 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FD4D1BBE for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0DFw3uu002491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:58:04 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: 64 bit linux binary support Message-ID: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 10:03:33 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:58:11 -0000 The FreeBSD wiki reports that there is no support for running 64-bit linux binaries under FreeBSD. The file utility does recognize the binary format, including listing a runtime loader to use when running them: [wam@devbox, TEST, 9:57:52am] 1039 % lltr *fpbl* -rw------- 1 wam users 3162 Feb 12 2012 fpbl.f -rw------- 1 wam users 13110 May 25 2014 OUTPUT.fpbl.linux.txt -rw------- 1 wam users 11760 Sep 5 10:04 fpbl.c -rw------- 1 wam users 13142 Sep 5 10:05 OUTPUT.fpbl.FreeBSD.txt -rwx------ 1 wam users 17909 Sep 9 08:10 fpbl.linux* -rwx------ 1 wam users 18003 Oct 4 09:31 fpbl* [wam@devbox, TEST, 9:58:02am] 1040 % file fpbl fpbl.linux fpbl: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, for FreeBSD 9.3, not stripped fpbl.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=882754a79d9e9583eff5f710da6a3d0eb3251fa2, not stripped [wam@devbox, TEST, 9:58:05am] 1041 % uname -a FreeBSD devbox 9.3-RELEASE-p30 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p30 #0: Mon Nov 2 10:11:50 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@devbox, TEST, 10:00:26am] 1042 % Furthermore, the docker wiki page refers to newly available (as of last summer) 64-bit linux support. How is progress for supporting execution of 64-bit linux binaries proceeding ? TIA & have a good one. P.S. I also noticed a docker pkg available for some months now for 9.3R. I installed it a while back, but haven't played around w/ it yet. The docker wiki page says docker only runs under FSSD 11.0, is the 9.3R pkg just a robo-build artifact, or possibly working OK-ish ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 18:55:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3ACA80482 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2001:7c0:407:1001:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9F8D1600 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (naddy@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1aJQZU-00024A-SW; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:55:04 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u0DIo41R013435; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:50:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u0DIo4Go013434; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:50:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:50:04 +0100 From: Christian Weisgerber To: Sebastian Gniazdowski Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TERM=xterm lacking smcup and rmcup (alternate screen) Message-ID: <20160113185004.GA13013@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:55:08 -0000 Sebastian Gniazdowski: > I want to criticize an approach taken in FreeBSD regarding the > alternate screen. It's not available in newcons. One person wrote > that's because Tekken doesn't have such feature, and newcons > implements Tekken. > > That's maybe fine. However, newcons doesn't have it's own termcap. It > uses TERM=xterm, which normally has rmcup and smcup. Some smart person te/ti in termcap(5) language. rmcup/smcup is the same in terminfo(5). > thus decided to remove those codes from TERM=xterm. You see what this > leads to? No alternate screen on X11. That's not what happened. The ti/te capabilities for switching to the alternate screen were expressly removed from the "xterm" entry in revision 200503, because a vocal group of developers disliked the alternate screen feature and insisted that it should be disabled in xterm. https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/share/termcap/termcap#rev200503 -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 19:10:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDDCA80989 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8B51BFB for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4729333C25; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "CK" Cc: Subject: Re: dc(1) bugs References: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:01:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> (CK's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 2016 19:23:36 -0900") Message-ID: <444mehe21q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:10:38 -0000 "CK" writes: > FreeBSD-9.3 dc(1) > > These appear to be bugs to me, but please verify if possible: > > ##### > FIRST > ##### > $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.1vp' > 0 > $ dc -xe '50k10o16i.1vp' > 0 > $ dc -xe '50k10o10i.1vp' > 31622776601683793319988935444327185337195551393252 > > This should be telling dc(1): > > a) scale is 50 (in decimal) digits. > b) output in base16, base10, and base10 respectively. > c) input will be in base16, base16, and base10 respectively. > d) take the square root, and print it to the display. > > Of course, the 3rd example above is correct, but the first 2? Why 0? I don't have the sources at hand, so I can't comment on "why" at the moment. The first two can be simplified to '16i.1p' while still demonstrating the problematic behaviour. So neither scale, output base, or square root are relevant. Your other examples probably have the same cause, I suspect (although some of them give different results, including decimal points, on my RELENG_10 system). Interestingly, the Gnu implementation seems to give the same results, so there may be something that you (and I) don't know about in the dc specification. That would probably have to deal with fractions in input numbers, which isn't discussed in the dc(1) manual. Seems unlikely, though, based on the fact that a radix smaller than 10 does what I expect and one larger does not. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 19:20:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FF4A80E94 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2001:7c0:407:1001:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6FD512CF for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1aJQxi-0003La-7e; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:20:06 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u0DJIal8014184 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:18:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u0DJIap2014183 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:18:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: dc(1) bugs Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:20:08 -0000 On 2016-01-13, "CK" wrote: > These appear to be bugs to me, but please verify if possible: Many of your examples are confusing because you stripped off leading periods from the results. Also, all your four cases seem to come down to the same problem, so let's just pick one: > ##### > THIRD > ##### > $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.4 2^p' > 0A > $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.40 2^p' > 1000 > $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.400 2^p' > 10000 > $ dc -xe '50k16o16i.4000 2^p' > 1000000 Simpler examples: $ dc -e '50k 16i .1 p' 0.0 $ dc -e '50k 16i .10 p' .06 $ dc -e '50k 16i .100 p' .062 $ dc -e '50k 16i .1000 p' .0625 I'll note that GNU dc(1) behaves the same way, so I think it is a case of poorly documented or counter-intuitive behavior rather than a bug. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 19:24:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F97A81183 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6523A175E for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B0B1F33C24; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RW Subject: Re: dc(1) bugs References: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> <20160113054734.GA75312@becker.bs.l> <20160113143957.3817341a@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:24:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20160113143957.3817341a@gumby.homeunix.com> (RW via freebsd-questions's message of "Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:39:57 +0000") Message-ID: <44ziw9cmg9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:24:07 -0000 RW via freebsd-questions writes: > I think what you are missing here is that dc and bc are part of the > POSIX standard. bc(1) is, but dc(1) is not. bc seems to have the same problem: > echo "ibase=16 ; 0.1" |bc -l 0.0 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 13 22:52:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA7EA815E0 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAB6815C5 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:a46d:d55c:d0a5:f33] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 974142 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:52:25 +0000 Subject: Re: dc(1) bugs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0McVKy-1aajq60oIS-00Hgju@mail.gmx.com> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <5696D529.9080901@radel.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:52:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms090705000209070102000303" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:52:35 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090705000209070102000303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/13/16 2:18 PM, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Simpler examples: > > $ dc -e '50k 16i .1 p' > 0.0 > $ dc -e '50k 16i .10 p' > .06 > $ dc -e '50k 16i .100 p' > .062 > $ dc -e '50k 16i .1000 p' > .0625 > > I'll note that GNU dc(1) behaves the same way, so I think it is a > case of poorly documented or counter-intuitive behavior rather than > a bug. The man page makes clear, in a slightly muddy sort of way, that scale=20 set with the "k" operator can set limits on the scale of the output, but = is not deterministic. See the section on the ordinary arithmetic=20 operators. Base conversion, apparently, ignores the scale set with=20 "k". A bit clumsy, IMHO; for starters, 4 digits of precision in hex=20 isn't exactly 4 digits of precision base 10. Clumsy? Well, I'd think that $ dc -e '50k 16i .10 .1 + p' =2E06 $ should really output .12, but there is a certain logic to the answer it=20 does give if one assumes it converts base first and then adds. For an example where "k" does something: $ dc -e '3k 16i .10000 .10000 * p' =2E00390 $ dc -e '6k 16i .10000 .10000 * p' =2E003906 $ Bottom line? dc might not be the best tool for hex fractions. :-( --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms090705000209070102000303 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC Cq8wggSvMIIDl6ADAgECAhEA4CPLFRKDU4mtYW56VGdrITANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBvMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJTRTEUMBIGA1UEChMLQWRkVHJ1c3QgQUIxJjAkBgNVBAsTHUFkZFRydXN0IEV4 dGVybmFsIFRUUCBOZXR3b3JrMSIwIAYDVQQDExlBZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBDQSBSb290 MB4XDTE0MTIyMjAwMDAwMFoXDTIwMDUzMDEwNDgzOFowgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYD VQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNP TU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVu 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Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:48:48 -0000 On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > The FreeBSD wiki reports that there is no support for running 64-bit linux > binaries under FreeBSD. The file utility does recognize the binary format, > including listing a runtime loader to use when running them: [...] > > Furthermore, the docker wiki page refers to newly available (as of last > summer) 64-bit linux support. How is progress for supporting execution of > 64-bit linux binaries proceeding ? TIA & have a good one. > > Why not use Linux in the first place? Docker is very similar to jails so why not take advantage of native FreeBSD Jails? It just seems like a big overhead and complication instead of using Linux directly if you really want 64 bit Docker environment. Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 06:49:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D559A821B8 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C97571D08 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id l65so325506860wmf.1 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:49:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=dO/A088wX24qFYpJDp8VvVdMsuqBaG9ZCXIKbldWC20=; b=I2N7ZaVmjXMW1Sxu8GaE59evEkYWaMkxLdFmUC4uvyi9I9IdXa4rAK0PYTpr34xrBb cUtpTJD8Tsu/xMxXWg1EpHkwBpd+9ffX67X9v9Bsb7BpVtr4vj2RRjZ0FynXuPOrM99F oKVd9kZNmvsIJELPquZivG7A7Z8ohYGbQwnYHX5JBL/85nr17uWCwIE16oEMFVOXNsic tES+Co2UiOGvWGESd12aiByFfPDORttnr2bD2gqsmR19BnxW5QGnalG0kLeUGXF6mr3r MxTkGyf6HmO3aWNnVXK3jZ45JHqdZTva5568djnRLoNHdPlWzyc2CVRplWxKDOrdtGjs bRYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=dO/A088wX24qFYpJDp8VvVdMsuqBaG9ZCXIKbldWC20=; b=VaPkXSlZkyq7I4IvOWyWWlwywwjksiLLbALv+bFvfJVsbSVr6mCA5WJuKsTZEJdeCk hA1XBSg1nWZtGefHmigIxv/NZBPQzz2swpKAZF8PwBitFAUm2rQeU5bMv/Tkm83sJ9l3 b9C2t+TlwXEkilpmTLxdSxwhkLM1RA7fi31G6zxjeQXmD2WuhZq07lsWRE9aE/EGfCCA W6HfaMKb0ArWV/VqoN1EsMewqTpYlKU6GjMDszqAWgmcGAaob0ATeqvpTnQFdYtajQv2 XKxd252xkEQM0UkznWhum6CdoOihiLstq9lMGoN3WDO1xYixVfMkNIiauwqcTE7LzAR/ o79g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm8u+kVpk0ziTXJAO1iB+sfXaxM27Fxo9Z3kwk9CPVs1OCiBZSm1By3zflSr6/uAkAyO/hVNrJs9lvbmCwx6DK2DkdiXA== X-Received: by 10.28.211.141 with SMTP id k135mr2663213wmg.51.1452754147379; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (li195-236.members.linode.com. [178.79.139.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q75sm25461113wmd.6.2016.01.13.22.49.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:49:05 -0800 (PST) From: Malcolm Matalka To: Alejandro Imass Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:49:02 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Alejandro Imass's message of "Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:48:47 -0500") Message-ID: <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:49:09 -0000 Alejandro Imass writes: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: >> >> >> The FreeBSD wiki reports that there is no support for running 64-bit linux >> binaries under FreeBSD. The file utility does recognize the binary format, >> including listing a runtime loader to use when running them: > > [...] > >> >> Furthermore, the docker wiki page refers to newly available (as of last >> summer) 64-bit linux support. How is progress for supporting execution of >> 64-bit linux binaries proceeding ? TIA & have a good one. >> >> > > Why not use Linux in the first place? Docker is very similar to jails > so why not take advantage of native FreeBSD Jails? > > It just seems like a big overhead and complication instead of using > Linux directly if you really want 64 bit Docker environment. Could you clarify your response? Are you saying to use Linux instead of FreeBSD to host docker images or to run a VM or something else? > > Best, > Alejandro Imass > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 06:55:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B34A823F9 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E50CE107C for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0E6tDuU056076; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:55:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:55:13 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: al plant cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with making DVD install disc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160114171111.C93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:55:25 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 605, Issue 5, Message: 5 On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 10:07:09 -1000 al plant wrote: > Aloha List, Aloha Al, I noticed in the archives that this seemed unanswered .. > I need to make a .iso dvd 11 to test hardware. How do I locate a i386 > copy like below with a dvd designation instead of disc1 or has > something changed since I did this a while ago? > > FreeBSD-11.0-CURRENT-i386-20160106-r293245-disc1.iso > > I looked at handbook but couldnt find the how to for this. See the > dvd under releases but I want to test 11 for this email desktop > hardware. The package set on the dvds is only rolled just before release time, when the odds of it being a consistent set are at least reasonable. I guess you could use 10.2-RELEASE dvd, then upgrade system sources with svnlite or svnup, though already you need online access to do that. You _might_ even get away with replacing base.txz and kernel.txz with CURRENT ones on a re-rolled 10.2 dvd, but I wouldn't bet on it .. Even with 10.2, there's a dance to be performed to get around bugs in bsdinstall and/or bsdconfig regarding finding the packages on the dvd; the procedure required is given in the release notes. We're not where 1GB memsticks were big anymore, and there are now plenty of notebooks and tablets without optical drives; I really don't know why there isn't a (say) 4GB memstick image with what's on the dvd, and room to even add more packages .. I had a go at that for 9.3 but ran into the same issues getting pkg pointing to the local packages, before the 10.2 method was documented. Even now, not everyone is always online :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 07:25:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4E1A82B52 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2B881A75 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0E7PZRs057215; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:25:35 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:25:35 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: al plant cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with making DVD install disc In-Reply-To: <20160114171111.C93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: <20160114182311.K93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160114171111.C93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:25:39 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:55:13 -1100, Ian Smith wrote: > Even with 10.2, there's a dance to be performed to get around bugs in > bsdinstall and/or bsdconfig regarding finding the packages on the dvd; > the procedure required is given in the release notes. Argh, sorry .. it's in https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/errata.html cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 08:25:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7180A8221E for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahinhasanov@hotmail.com) Received: from DUB004-OMC4S6.hotmail.com (dub004-omc4s6.hotmail.com [157.55.2.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B09E1D83 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahinhasanov@hotmail.com) Received: from DUB127-W25 ([157.55.2.71]) by DUB004-OMC4S6.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:24:32 -0800 X-TMN: [kCGKuF1cEPPjGDc2sn/Qsu5ubcT2sQM2] X-Originating-Email: [shahinhasanov@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Shahin Hasanov To: FREEBSD_QUESTION Subject: the switching time hastd from secondary to primary Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 12:24:31 +0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2016 08:24:32.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE87A2C0:01D14EA4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:25:42 -0000 I can't change the switching time hastd from secondary to primary. it is de= fault time 20 sec.is it possible? In despite of that in etc/hast.conf was w= ritten timeout 10=20 =20 resource HAST0 { replication memsync compression lzf timeout 10 on node1 { local /dev/da1p1 remote 10.190.190.4 } on node2 { local /dev/da1p1 remote 10.190.190.3 } } = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 08:32:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DFFA82505 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01CB8107D for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id u188so334524552wmu.1 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:31:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VQbGzCOfRt/3UISTYLcgUdZ8rs0HCcDGhK71TxUe3yk=; b=IPWhi+D01P4W1YEkJyocLALirkVII6cYnEZqjoDyv3FkwHAJ03NGVnYmb3qa8SnqEC 1eJ2W3ap8ONUvsCSmuxnblvUj4qAoWwIjmYWf9dl0IDkyC0tTEtTCzvwYxHitvWzRQeK GENgL19AQJadELymwiMw1rP4/BxGhgvfiONZ00g2vVEX37mu5o3bNL2HtCtQ/mdAyt37 LeTr1XimrJLXRvVflB61r+wHMqBnfAvzBExLKfhvtLKDPMNBdwm34FxAOasCZSuRUD8Z pYFU+R/YNf43l0taYv69SSOCUiGnKBMwzCkEhwAk3AfsNhFQ72K/WAeQrDZM6lDcSuAj YLvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VQbGzCOfRt/3UISTYLcgUdZ8rs0HCcDGhK71TxUe3yk=; b=LYufnx88BI4VD0/aPeBZHxXNSWB7GYqPX4cRhVIU1jxqNCpXeXh8LkbM5TAyKeWvW2 /xhdjNaYzljunT693EmRjETXpPa64omlLqey9pIaK+bKZIpLLE3keT6pWBmKftFBWRNS wv+/jVHZKeoUdiy+xvDhfZqX7jeuhPVqhPmXR6DE+68c6uZptqgZ5iOO44oIKuAjeaTB w3vb45h3cYRlA3MvkO+dCZojLvmTfMr9YU1p5aw+UWHd0GSO7ycM31fay7g4ICFFszVD gN5SAJXcIr2PYVA1oUvOplPLSXQ+rxnF/Fzp/x8pyj8mUP9ol5clUpXz5PLdVvNQII6J i5RQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnoxtROjZQruiWP/FBeevMi+TuA7Kv25jmyrE8pEZ93rZ5zO3VEiUePCKmlGr+0YcO17LvYt1RdxfLBRBTHemimJISxUA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.229.20 with SMTP id c20mr3112731wmh.79.1452760318260; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.153.134 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.153.134 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:31:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:31:58 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the switching time hastd from secondary to primary From: Anton Sayetsky To: Shahin Hasanov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:32:00 -0000 14 =D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B2. 2016 =D0=B3. 10:25 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Shahin Hasanov" < shahinhasanov@hotmail.com> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > I can't change the switching time hastd from secondary to primary. it is default time 20 sec.is it possible? In despite of that in etc/hast.conf was written timeout 10 > > resource HAST0 { > replication memsync > compression lzf > timeout 10 > on node1 { > local /dev/da1p1 > remote 10.190.190.4 > } > on node2 { > local /dev/da1p1 > remote 10.190.190.3 > } > } http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?hastd A hastd daemon never picks its role automatically. The role has to be configured with the hastctl(8) control utility by additional software like ucarp or heartbeat that can reliably manage role separation and switch secondary node to primary role in case of the primary's failure. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 10:24:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA933A81E91 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahinhasanov@hotmail.com) Received: from DUB004-OMC4S33.hotmail.com (dub004-omc4s33.hotmail.com [157.55.2.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39C921353 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shahinhasanov@hotmail.com) Received: from DUB127-W36 ([157.55.2.72]) by DUB004-OMC4S33.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 14 Jan 2016 02:23:46 -0800 X-TMN: [YtKsTU5bimSX8GcDdnbX758PPhs8rZma] X-Originating-Email: [shahinhasanov@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Shahin Hasanov To: FREEBSD_QUESTION Subject: RE: the switching time hastd from secondary to primary Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:23:46 +0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2016 10:23:46.0879 (UTC) FILETIME=[A70784F0:01D14EB5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:24:56 -0000 In /usr/local/sbin/ucarp_up.sh(below shown extract of it) script ucarp wa= iting while it became primary. It tooks about 20 sec as written http://www.= freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dhast.conf&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0&manpath= =3DFreeBSD+10.2-RELEASE&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml .=20 =20 for i in `jot 30`=3B do pgrep -f "hastd: ${resource} \(secondary\)" >/dev/null 2>&1 || brea= k sleep 1 done if pgrep -f "hastd: ${resource} \(secondary\)" >/dev/null 2>&1=3B then logger -p local0.error -t hast "Secondary process for resource ${re= source} is still running after 30 seconds." exit 1 fi =20 Date: Thu=2C 14 Jan 2016 11:31:58 +0300 Subject: Re: the switching time hastd from secondary to primary From: vsasjason@gmail.com To: shahinhasanov@hotmail.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 14 =FF=ED=E2. 2016 =E3. 10:25 =EF=EE=EB=FC=E7=EE=E2=E0=F2=E5=EB=FC "Shahin = Hasanov" =ED=E0=EF=E8=F1=E0=EB: =0A= > =0A= > I can't change the switching time hastd from secondary to primary. it is = default time 20 sec.is it possible? In despite of that in etc/hast.conf was= written timeout 10 =0A= > =0A= > resource HAST0 { =0A= > replication memsync =0A= > compression lzf =0A= > timeout 10 =0A= > on node1 { =0A= > local /dev/da1p1 =0A= > remote 10.190.190.4 =0A= > } =0A= > on node2 { =0A= > local /dev/da1p1 =0A= > remote 10.190.190.3 =0A= > } =0A= > } =0A= http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?hastd =0A= A hastd daemon never picks its role automatically. The role has to be confi= gured with the hastctl(8) control utility by additional software like ucarp= or heartbeat that can reliably manage role separation and switch secondary= node to primary role in case of the primary's failure. = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 14:13:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C91A82305 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C610B1640 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id f206so348219411wmf.0 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:13:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bris-ac-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to; bh=AyP5umGiRCFrf4vOTIg7MN81NSU+BCn/zD4PM3nxegA=; b=Zj8wRc8wKoLV5mxgK2VcAIgJIEf1UpGPG5FyUXASOzaycqGbmsfeWcG43/cDG221b2 J7ywNmc1JByTLmAm8ouN1aWwW6L7PhFRGaC9mcyVm5nXBdbIKegNb00yQSvw21krLoZS hqMGZhalQO/La6SMYt+s/M4tbMg5qE3lftWJHoaE9WwbRztC3StYRbc2kaip/OyFYb0z HZR79soIdNVV80b36ua/F4mhoVQZMC6t3IiYCuuK4YNA+LquYhLTnxP3qR08Byy8Amho SS+E7rOYTLecKv9dpdCTDxsPx/HCzTTyvq1bCM/rUFl2UQHTddm7HHjkWYiwaelrcCTe Tu6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to; bh=AyP5umGiRCFrf4vOTIg7MN81NSU+BCn/zD4PM3nxegA=; b=C4++OMPYderS8buyQMbAIgG4FMpUsy6KpS23TG/vqRgtT7J82BNhN3hP88qKzzPZ6X fC3DkDx0lQ4SKcer+RSsh8jpyz12nWzf7OYs4V7zCR4FCVHUnLlbg+/9hCs7ey+cYS5C rYxmifaaMmVhwftoFpqGwouNeRckQZzky7JkCimVhKx/9a9TrE5tXSV2DCqZO8GoJDMo QUgrPx84ku4J/RfvO1lnCSklXyC4rB3qx3XHT7bqy1z8/xv6c0i8SIBQj91Y75scdO4Q z2aAI0CbXbE+KNvrm+PYTSp5/Nd5bT2chZNWBZs7oB5faEcIB+BA9IoiXdnWRO5ymzGW V1Uw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzvV2hgm7E9j37ITdnno4V+7+pwSMEl7KKE77NjTNlbdL3qHmp8M92j2MY5fFitvaU4JJD0PWBFWAn9ljTEbHEe3rZFQ== X-Received: by 10.194.201.134 with SMTP id ka6mr4373727wjc.116.1452780814182; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ko2sm6288840wjc.9.2016.01.14.06.13.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:13:32 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u0EEDWbP028618 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:13:32 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u0EEDW9O028617 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:13:32 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201601141413.u0EEDW9O028617@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: links to 1999 security advisories and earlier return 550 Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:13:36 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html Links to all advisories for 1999 and earlier return 550 Failed to change directory. Not sure what the correct list for this is. Hopefully somebody will pick up from here or re-post. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 14:21:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E146A82A7A for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 495A71445 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 77so422747673ioc.2 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:21:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Zy6b/8ut4oHlrBdLAttrO6RHF3Mr8BOIu8f6NF+GILQ=; b=CYcgYEcu1CMaB/Utjd2Rt8R0jIVHBU2qdcmgqtNkGQNk/klFv+kfeRHk5x0ZiKZAfj R4+UFAsqep3BnCL9ypm7Xaz/6vQEF1TnP7Ffx+uJ+EPlCRXdxmDObr6E+3fE6kftUPGc r7q2pV29cFLip7GQYQVAu5ynqLdHZ5BuwpWEr4WAa3e2AtTbxc4FEHi/0DrUtOF6Qxzu zG6yWvyzIODMlohCPjaNLU+chi74fEg4TkqViytRkqNx4WbgZ3FJ24vi1bhJiWDIFU5y vIJlyzJKiHCgKXEU/KWc2HES9Vke7643Sq2tzkrHJBtYHUeRj711PLPyXU4E7C0e/vQe Mx2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Zy6b/8ut4oHlrBdLAttrO6RHF3Mr8BOIu8f6NF+GILQ=; b=LplAzBnrZiYtHfJ82n7ac0F9psAiAJ8MgutnW1rTePQ1v4+GOXGsoof24RR43Ll6Wu 1XKameqek22+4bLfzvtz1Ki3exVtiERgb7cmmiD265Vju9MVvQbf2Ex+Aq5+5njSBVEa X6itXcVa+QIB3uS8PmYuld4Z5KdBQB/YQpZy2dXK/s8Mxg8qWgjAJtxV7SrYR+dQ4HUx B0EHu6jVM9v/kSgg+fFT+SDMK6QNvdasm7Gb+txv/A4EaNOXvWlKYTq7iQPeKhaY6LQ8 F73H5wZh/0tGeNE+A4rn5MRZoBNsI16WngtCoKY6sgJwse99+++bGSJtYsbEfTFa1Qpk G33A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkoEkz6npynzvvcRfml316EwKUO8H7DuMQuOiCCWcxH04SVpw0shH9XcgeJqPRy9cNRJVV4mhZJhHCg0x3xxwwXYdAi/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.63.214 with SMTP id m205mr5810693ioa.116.1452781287899; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.152.142 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:21:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support From: Alejandro Imass To: Malcolm Matalka Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:21:29 -0000 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Malcolm Matalka wrote: > Alejandro Imass writes: > >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, William A. Mahaffey III >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The FreeBSD wiki reports that there is no support for running 64-bit linux >>> binaries under FreeBSD. The file utility does recognize the binary format, >>> including listing a runtime loader to use when running them: >> >> [...] >> >>> >>> Furthermore, the docker wiki page refers to newly available (as of last >>> summer) 64-bit linux support. How is progress for supporting execution of >>> 64-bit linux binaries proceeding ? TIA & have a good one. >>> >>> >> >> Why not use Linux in the first place? Docker is very similar to jails >> so why not take advantage of native FreeBSD Jails? >> >> It just seems like a big overhead and complication instead of using >> Linux directly if you really want 64 bit Docker environment. > > Could you clarify your response? Are you saying to use Linux instead of > FreeBSD to host docker images or to run a VM or something else? > My response is pretty clear: Docker is pretty much like FreeBSD Jails so why not use FBSD Jails (e.g. with EzJail) in the first place instead of going through the trouble of getting a Linux-like jail system to run on FreeBSD. And if you want/need Docker so bad then it would probably be better to run on Linux to begin with. Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 14:55:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF4DA82DD6 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 527A71BB4 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0EEtQTI028079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:55:27 -0600 Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:00:56 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:55:29 -0000 On 01/14/16 08:27, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Malcolm Matalka wrote: >> Alejandro Imass writes: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, William A. Mahaffey III >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The FreeBSD wiki reports that there is no support for running 64-bit linux >>>> binaries under FreeBSD. The file utility does recognize the binary format, >>>> including listing a runtime loader to use when running them: >>> [...] >>> >>>> Furthermore, the docker wiki page refers to newly available (as of last >>>> summer) 64-bit linux support. How is progress for supporting execution of >>>> 64-bit linux binaries proceeding ? TIA & have a good one. >>>> >>>> >>> Why not use Linux in the first place? Docker is very similar to jails >>> so why not take advantage of native FreeBSD Jails? >>> >>> It just seems like a big overhead and complication instead of using >>> Linux directly if you really want 64 bit Docker environment. >> Could you clarify your response? Are you saying to use Linux instead of >> FreeBSD to host docker images or to run a VM or something else? >> > My response is pretty clear: Docker is pretty much like FreeBSD Jails > so why not use FBSD Jails (e.g. with EzJail) in the first place > instead of going through the trouble of getting a Linux-like jail > system to run on FreeBSD. And if you want/need Docker so bad then it > would probably be better to run on Linux to begin with. > > Best, > Alejandro Imass Hmmmm .... It's not so clear to me, but that might be a deficiency @ my end :-/. I would like to run 64-bit binaries compiled on/for linux boxen (specifically CentOS/RHEL 6) on my FreeBSD boxen, currently 3 in number, all various AMD64 CPUs, all running 9.3R. My question only involved docker to the extent that the docker wiki page alludes to apparently newly available (as of last summer) 64-bit linux binary support, which is what I am really interested in. I *AM* (separately) interested in docker, for various reasons. Specifically, I would want to use it as a lightweight VM system, which I *think* works under Linux. I.e. you can run a container of a non-native OS if it is CPU compatible w/ the host CPU. As I understand things, that is not feasible w/ jails, although I have found some URL's which claim otherwise. Clarification on that point would be welcome as well. I have asked before & been told it was *NOT* feasible, but maybe things have changed or I am missing something. TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i196sm27198409wmf.23.2016.01.14.07.00.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:00:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:00:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:00:24 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u0EF0Oa6028842 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:00:24 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u0EF0OSl028841 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:00:24 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201601141500.u0EF0OSl028841@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tcsh fg bug? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:00:29 -0000 I'm using tcsh. > jobs [2] + Running xpdf pap.pdf [3] - Running xautolock -time 1 -locker slock > fg 3 xpdf pap.pdf (wd: ~/nobkp/out/2016/autotune) which is wrong, right? Can anybody reproduce this behaviour? Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 15:50:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC10DA8313C for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 756141C83 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-208.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57A7D2784F; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:50:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u0EFok2Y002674; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:50:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:50:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bris.ac.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcsh fg bug? Message-Id: <20160114165046.caf70131.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201601141500.u0EF0OSl028841@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201601141500.u0EF0OSl028841@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:50:56 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:00:25 -0800 (PST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm using tcsh. > > > jobs > [2] + Running xpdf pap.pdf > [3] - Running xautolock -time 1 -locker slock > > fg 3 > xpdf pap.pdf (wd: ~/nobkp/out/2016/autotune) > > > which is wrong, right? Looks like it. :-) > Can anybody reproduce this behaviour? Yes: % jobs [1] Suspended gv aaaa.ps [2] Suspended xpdf /tmp/w3dzz-antenna-iss-1-31.pdf [3] - Suspended xpdf /tmp/robe.pdf [4] + Suspended xpdf /tmp/anwenderaspekte_svm_3.3.pdf % fg 3 xpdf /tmp/anwenderaspekte_svm_3.3.pdf But using the correct syntax, this happens (as expected): % fg %3 xpdf /tmp/robe.pdf Explanation from "man csh": There are several ways to refer to jobs in the shell. The character `%' introduces a job name. If you wish to refer to job number 1, you can name it as `%1'. Just naming a job brings it to the foreground; thus `%1' is a synonym for `fg %1', bringing job 1 back into the fore- ground. Similarly, saying `%1 &' resumes job 1 in the background, just like `bg %1'. A job can also be named by an unambiguous prefix of the string typed in to start it: `%ex' would normally restart a suspended ex(1) job, if there were only one suspended job whose name began with the string `ex'. It is also possible to say `%?string' to specify a job whose text contains string, if there is only one such job. [...] fg [%job ...] Brings the specified jobs (or, without arguments, the current job) into the foreground, continuing each if it is stopped. job may be a number, a string, `', `%', `+' or `-' as described under Jobs. See also the run-fg-editor editor command. So the command > fg %3 ^ will probably do what you want. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 16:22:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084FBA82668 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E3441BCF for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id f206so440195258wmf.0 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:22:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BG1/XRyDQ5qIIi39El4ktIyWkvuXq3s3GaLs2puiQxU=; b=ptYXGNptn9kK605GuFW8U3DyUMeSfWvlMO8putczw144540lJZAqh3fvw8TBPzbJxJ PzPCRbC+UvepC0zfDJB6YtlVJ6iiq+5fb4w6FMdBKogvjCOWTotrlrPsOmOVRmXM/8H4 0hCM6n7UzNQ/eeGKCmBMZewrLImrwO5qE69uPmwK+XC4G5OpInPpPkZ5nuzG3YQOo0IO JhRSYKQ+fJf3HR+lOnxJ2odJ40fYhsnq2m8umZGPx+vL/V1WPWUHHUaWWoK8rkEOccu4 nuY7NDvVK+jSrAfbuS9/Cqe4BaYYnXqeXZMEj1iSOfypHAXm9Dd9N7W9IXQc6ZDu30me +gFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BG1/XRyDQ5qIIi39El4ktIyWkvuXq3s3GaLs2puiQxU=; b=Ks2mz2o+wPxnIPWdcYm8Iun+AlsQld6P7yuOjH1HYWCFUIuGjU0gCdH7wPM0aJpoSW 1ijjnlbBFrnu1QUuj5wLAXt+974ytRG7hrEDj9AFRPx9Ey9Px5wlxrB0uueSDTimraxW jiWZdIA8rMPPBX1Am6Qi56GufL7RdwtnSi89vG/HzH4gcHcszt4iaRse7nDerHPfsEAV XOOGlSP2iYlEBGucTuacjfO4R02t+2aDrclJzciAojZBYfT33EJdLkmq30ZjT9Uew7aJ yCuO81iqL2JkuJAmgWOMu/NkUy3nGEcYY78s7oFQA2+2F9N+iQ+JZX0vEupY3AXTJLBZ KZuw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkylmWQSBqWT5rshH3nQj95oJIKzoWxWWalZ+Vp8j4JXaylZJR7PCzfuqJ4sKl2SfTwuDxngM9gvEFc6sfslmkG0CH3lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.240.67 with SMTP id vy3mr5066184wjc.168.1452788521876; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:22:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201601141500.u0EF0OSl028841@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201601141500.u0EF0OSl028841@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:22:01 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tcsh fg bug? From: Adam Vande More To: mexas@bris.ac.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:22:05 -0000 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm using tcsh. > > > jobs > [2] + Running xpdf pap.pdf > [3] - Running xautolock -time 1 -locker slock > > fg 3 > xpdf pap.pdf (wd: ~/nobkp/out/2016/autotune) > > > which is wrong, right? > No, unless you consider ignoring the 3 'wrong'. > > Can anybody reproduce this behaviour? > Since fg wasn't invoked with a proper job name, the current job is resumed. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 17:26:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC84A8296E for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03DC51DAF for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id f206so355529250wmf.0 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:26:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bris-ac-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:cc:reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=g08Wgrcj3Dgdr+TwT/lN/XF1hEPulovXTHCuvSIUudU=; b=sY/uYahgA0cVLrb0S92EPw/tPNH6yxfFKeD19hMWBXKZ7YAG5+uZ/rl3M93x/sUavS 1o/cGE1N932u1gt+qXVXM2TyrWUXD7AJCGg6hihpUe5VwdZfAf4GlS7OK573/L7z8IQ8 DbNxtSZ9sTHwSP1lomsp8azNgMpBC7xpCxhj0dpaqQHk5Ync25HSIpsWWugONSP/rsKs JcmyDVMtxgVp3fcOonBAfp/w2OOFEw4y8qEAs6up6TgJSEy6tDHdTzEq4ORuqp1DNu/O HC4R0QW8FvtNEGPn52PmafuCNQ7gmpOOFoIVEyYiV39NA7Xrzcf6jtAtCPrBvGr4OTmK q3Yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:cc:reply-to :in-reply-to; bh=g08Wgrcj3Dgdr+TwT/lN/XF1hEPulovXTHCuvSIUudU=; b=KDLY8m0EaP06Q7hyEqlqV4/utnTQh7UJURtn8daS8jMy6CdZ448zx7eWSkIPGYS7tz wG+QS6rQGydhDTIzdnTwb7NRcQ3J7M+APF+JfeTrGDfHCWBAfLRRCLRwAcQl3EVOTtHQ 1lZsXrCVu87NXsJSIUFQfNAGgzjOojLzBLE6J9zamXaIMr+MNWxgGb2ItjueoxHXH/On 51etRDkkig0c4A7z3SzibYofqQqjjJ1rMzBQKP6Ge8dKUDQXkdHuNTc8UbVJNWHOiIMg hi3Wm2jFaGSFQD1AG6IpJHBUJPnCyWbuW8A9leHEjD7rkFsIi2MuI2fE7wvrOCWf0kOd tPNA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnDFJRHe3Wow+ueZCuk0OOIR0tqLKkD8loi5cxnWzzN5FlGL7ZXAV+cpbg3Ni0YXPrltOLw7vHU931VBNciVhs+5fZ/ZQ== X-Received: by 10.28.4.139 with SMTP id 133mr31915982wme.21.1452792383485; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z127sm27849000wme.2.2016.01.14.09.26.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:21 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u0EHQL7L029368; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:22 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u0EHQLt1029367; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:21 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201601141726.u0EHQLt1029367@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: amvandemore@gmail.com, mexas@bris.ac.uk Subject: Re: tcsh fg bug? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:25 -0000 >From amvandemore@gmail.com Thu Jan 14 17:20:55 2016 > >On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Anton Shterenlikht >wrote: > >> I'm using tcsh. >> >> > jobs >> [2] + Running xpdf pap.pdf >> [3] - Running xautolock -time 1 -locker slock >> > fg 3 >> xpdf pap.pdf (wd: ~/nobkp/out/2016/autotune) >> >> >> which is wrong, right? >> > >No, unless you consider ignoring the 3 'wrong'. yes, sorry, should've been "%3" Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 18:41:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A49AA831D6 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2582E10FF for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from smtp.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 835a28a7; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by smtp.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3dd43684 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:41:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1452796879.9410.3.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: links to 1999 security advisories and earlier return 550 From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: mexas@bris.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:41:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201601141413.u0EEDW9O028617@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201601141413.u0EEDW9O028617@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-sI6LPvhWfWZZZmCXqATP" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:41:31 -0000 --=-sI6LPvhWfWZZZmCXqATP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please, do file a bug on https://bugs.freebsd.org You will probably want to use =C2=A0 Product: Documentation =C2=A0 Component: Website Cheers, Ike On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 06:13 -0800, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > 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(envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) X-Envelope-From: noc@hdk5.net X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: From imail5.netenterprise.net (64.29.90.135) by relay10.netenterprise.net (MAILFOUNDRY) id FXXrErr4EeWsUwAl; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:50:38 -0000 (GMT) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.5.3.93) id cb410004e6ba12ac; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:43:44 -1000 Message-ID: <5697FA71.7020706@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:43:45 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: help with making DVD install disc.. 11 References: <20160114171111.C93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20160114171111.C93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:43:53 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 605, Issue 5, Message: 5 > On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 10:07:09 -1000 al plant wrote: > > Aloha List, > > Aloha Al, > > I noticed in the archives that this seemed unanswered .. > > > I need to make a .iso dvd 11 to test hardware. How do I locate a i386 > > copy like below with a dvd designation instead of disc1 or has > > something changed since I did this a while ago? > > > > FreeBSD-11.0-CURRENT-i386-20160106-r293245-disc1.iso > > > > I looked at handbook but couldnt find the how to for this. See the > > dvd under releases but I want to test 11 for this email desktop > > hardware. > > The package set on the dvds is only rolled just before release time, > when the odds of it being a consistent set are at least reasonable. > > I guess you could use 10.2-RELEASE dvd, then upgrade system sources with > svnlite or svnup, though already you need online access to do that. You > _might_ even get away with replacing base.txz and kernel.txz with > CURRENT ones on a re-rolled 10.2 dvd, but I wouldn't bet on it .. > > Even with 10.2, there's a dance to be performed to get around bugs in > bsdinstall and/or bsdconfig regarding finding the packages on the dvd; > the procedure required is given in the release notes. > > We're not where 1GB memsticks were big anymore, and there are now plenty > of notebooks and tablets without optical drives; I really don't know why > there isn't a (say) 4GB memstick image with what's on the dvd, and room > to even add more packages .. I had a go at that for 9.3 but ran into the > same issues getting pkg pointing to the local packages, before the 10.2 > method was documented. Even now, not everyone is always online :) > > cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Aloha and Thanks Ian, My biggest problem is that I only have 2 working FreeBSD Desktops (FreeBSD 8) currently and the DVD CD had to be changed and I cant get either to work with burncd or DVD growisofs. I am going to change the CDR/DVD components to see if I can get one of them to burn a good disc with FreeBSD 11 or even 10.2 . I got Fiber optic service here on island last year and had to change some of my boxes to work with the new network. Maybe I have to wait untill the FreeBSD 11 RELEASE comes out. I get big media and in out errors when I try to create CD or DVD. Any ideas appreciated. ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net email: alplant.att.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 04:31:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACAAA82447 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 04:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBDFE1F23 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 04:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.20]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MLR30-1aKU0f3mt8-000ZPR for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:31:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:32:39 -0900 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: Sh-test, bug or not? 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"" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail pass $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail pass The "-a" operator binds stronger than the "!" operator. Intuition based on functionality in awk/C would suppose that the "!" operator would bind stronger than the "-a" operator, especially since "-a" does in fact have higher precedence than the "-o" operator, as in awk/C. In order to make it work as "expected", it gets ugly: $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail pass $ [ \( ! "" \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail fail $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail pass $ [ \( ! 11 \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail fail I never noticed this in 20 years, so I don't know if it always worked this way, or if something changed in my upgrade from 4.11 to 9.3. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 08:09:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B50A83319 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E3631A4C for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u0F89lnW003835 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:09:47 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk u0F89lnW003835 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/u0F89lnW003835; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Sh-test, bug or not? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0LwGDy-1a6CqZ3TAs-0186MD@mail.gmx.com> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5698A94A.8040604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:09:46 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0LwGDy-1a6CqZ3TAs-0186MD@mail.gmx.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LjohoUlgWlt5HIgDPuNcQJ7R0tljmO53F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:09:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LjohoUlgWlt5HIgDPuNcQJ7R0tljmO53F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/01/2016 04:32, CK wrote: > If you have authoritative knowledge on the subject, > please state if this functionality is correct: >=20 > $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass >=20 > The "-a" operator binds stronger than the "!" operator. > Intuition based on functionality in awk/C would suppose > that the "!" operator would bind stronger than the "-a" > operator, especially since "-a" does in fact have higher > precedence than the "-o" operator, as in awk/C. >=20 > In order to make it work as "expected", it gets ugly: >=20 > $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > $ [ \( ! "" \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > fail >=20 > $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > $ [ \( ! 11 \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > fail >=20 > I never noticed this in 20 years, so I don't know if it always > worked this way, or if something changed in my upgrade from > 4.11 to 9.3. I think that while unexpected in comparison to other languages which have inherited C-like operator precedence rules, this is according to the POSIX standard for test(1). As the man page says: The test grammar is inherently ambiguous. In order to assure a degree of consistency, the cases described in the IEEE Std 1003.2 (``POSIX.2''= ), section D11.2/4.62.4, standard are evaluated consistently according = to the rules specified in the standards document. All other cases are sub- ject to the ambiguity in the command semantics. and it notes that the ambiguous cases are those involving (), -a and -o. Your test might be more clearly expressed as: $ [ ! "" ] && [ "" ] && echo pass || echo fail fail (although I'd recommend the -z and -n operators for testing the emptiness / undefinedness or not of strings.) Cheers, Matthew --LjohoUlgWlt5HIgDPuNcQJ7R0tljmO53F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWmKlLXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAThVIP/0fVK41bLNk2MPU63G1y4Kkp MSTogMyadziO9y8gYS4Z7e4woqPIVyJXNcEi1PydosE6ijqsEeEpW/99IjqPwnmt t66qtqwgc1qs55KBJjOi07IVfckKfkpkSyJUDP0XUrb9gl+Cc9Wk4WUaQ7zQa36j i/S6z6IHpwL1AtgC5iAOBrSFthtFCynCCT8ajntavNImRIdMs61Iow6tnbc2PZik ZwVRStc2F5qJD5B/W6WqWKM794DYF80YGv+2uc64045+rVOmNVjqQPR9vf4hp+5Y 98r3/KxLEZu1x8YqfSShDDqBvgyBFImAzMg+9LX/lml4EMW9IQQaU+GlDC3Yfz/0 dfMcFBIwdUzVbcqsWuYUSFxEcC/UvxDZSaIm5/X+HWm4ve6q3f5dFtahOwL3KFhh 7d1HCv6zOJQozXqrjO1pZXEpjGUdl1pEcsYU5mzw6sAk0QFYM64zTp4hJe6mFHhy eNC+PHilYh0bJNyahVpFvqn+CP8G2olt38EZAFNN4QozPP2xBJfmAYdqPf1PAdyH trmqf3MPtk5jPfwtuhJpkMEMcjRgfQ1LVcvA1fM9Y1qA0npGTONUNtrsJY9wf9NB VCdHUGNsvycYgH/1hQlMvWXPzcN5tnmVzy0QMXTbLQJIqjHlKtuMgdH62g/5OvBw xb7KG/asHmDNJ3BcE8dJ =Q0Ke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LjohoUlgWlt5HIgDPuNcQJ7R0tljmO53F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 08:41:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FE2A83F89 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.70.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACD72A29 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from outbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD8F552BD; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:41:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.gradwell.com (HELO arthur.home.qeng-ho.org) (212.11.70.4) (smtp-auth username arthur@pop3.qeng-ho.org, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:41:28 +0000 Subject: Re: Sh-test, bug or not? To: CK , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0LwGDy-1a6CqZ3TAs-0186MD@mail.gmx.com> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <5698B0B6.7050000@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:41:26 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0LwGDy-1a6CqZ3TAs-0186MD@mail.gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gradwell-MongoId: 5698b0b8.15227-506f-1 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: arthur@pop3.qeng-ho.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:41:36 -0000 On 15/01/2016 04:32, CK wrote: > If you have authoritative knowledge on the subject, > please state if this functionality is correct: > > $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > > The "-a" operator binds stronger than the "!" operator. > Intuition based on functionality in awk/C would suppose > that the "!" operator would bind stronger than the "-a" > operator, especially since "-a" does in fact have higher > precedence than the "-o" operator, as in awk/C. > > In order to make it work as "expected", it gets ugly: > > $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > $ [ \( ! "" \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > fail > > $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > pass > $ [ \( ! 11 \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > fail > > I never noticed this in 20 years, so I don't know if it always > worked this way, or if something changed in my upgrade from > 4.11 to 9.3. I would never claim to be an authority, but a quick look at the test(1) code shows that although the comments starting line 53 suggest the grammar one would expect, there's a special case in main() for an expression of exactly four parts starting with "!". The comment on line 218 is relevant to your tests. 217 if (nargc == 4 && strcmp(*t_wp, "!") == 0) { 218 /* Things like ! "" -o x do not fit in the normal grammar. */ 219 --nargc; 220 ++t_wp; 221 res = oexpr(t_lex(*t_wp)); 222 } else 223 res = !oexpr(t_lex(*t_wp)); I presume the shells use a version of this code as well. My guess would be that this is some sort of kludge going back to the original bourne shell, but someone else more knowledgeable than me will have to deal with that. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 11:18:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A8A825F8 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14E491737 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 77so451841169ioc.2 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:18:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/c0+4/R9Rg0yLPtu6BguAOsmDzi6+H7KeaZvdVp77mo=; b=JC8snDGnNcIT+fen3WfMlCIdzGtL41xo/hfQs62wlDWNU5TUbxP1qcz9qOAOOd8P2K BlV2Ki4PMDi9CvD7GEhV0mPgZzA+kx0kKNmbY0wDoKweX/uyG09VchVlGsqxU9sVfHjA GpEU5yVusrdEXhHBpKwemCETZkdoEemNVjNtaUz1k1N+3dA7ZVP4JjYKW5lUQLHvSq4Z 60t1fFIHuUS18ZliiWDjegaNF1zNygXcm08qa0NSFu5Nd7vL3+jbzIqLGXvB6iefGw3A wN0KcawarYk3CybtHSwIaapjTwP44jaADCuOtrGVfLRUrHLm/PgKu8G+bKHALX28yUKM pnmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/c0+4/R9Rg0yLPtu6BguAOsmDzi6+H7KeaZvdVp77mo=; b=TNVqrIww5b5477Vs0CaLoBx7sos3D0iau1Y8gAwWb19IKBfNAWl5ZPBnjgeqcP8Kcv qklueRLkripYN7atqw65Bov9M8z3M8aoJozWMpbw0llhkRJrcbRfjozrogasKx4RJQUo iYenoCXlX/vOVMdSfufB6Vz2V4RgE1GSxy+lgqRZ/iOPc6VVXoUuYbulOoAMOnpPUiAn 6b2w5LxJ1t3QZCcIWv4uutaf7AdLZjkvXsYk1PD4JaSB3T2DymHu8dI6U5BNJnZovH3g cXyjHKRFXrNIN2+6Loav9/TJPKiHXm/c4b/bUptCUF+Y7R43aqIViWv+hObjdqmrAbkJ jjAw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnhdq3DH1vJHB8FGT0KcnYUXJUx3gkoWa/gwU9bO0WBZeCJSyY28oy4cFg20L09faWSy3XMKymywEpEbMJAJtpkOQ90Nw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.152.142 with SMTP id a136mr9992222ioe.84.1452856698322; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.152.142 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:18:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 06:18:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support From: Alejandro Imass To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:18:19 -0000 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 01/14/16 08:27, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Malcolm Matalka >> wrote: >>> >>> Alejandro Imass writes: >>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, William A. Mahaffey III >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [...] >> My response is pretty clear: Docker is pretty much like FreeBSD Jails >> so why not use FBSD Jails (e.g. with EzJail) in the first place >> instead of going through the trouble of getting a Linux-like jail >> system to run on FreeBSD. And if you want/need Docker so bad then it >> would probably be better to run on Linux to begin with. >> [...] > > Hmmmm .... It's not so clear to me, but that might be a deficiency @ my end > :-/. I would like to run 64-bit binaries compiled on/for linux boxen > (specifically CentOS/RHEL 6) on my FreeBSD boxen, currently 3 in number, all > various AMD64 CPUs, all running 9.3R. My question only involved docker to > the extent that the docker wiki page alludes to apparently newly available > (as of last summer) 64-bit linux binary support, which is what I am really > interested in. > Perhaps you should look into bhyve, the FBSD Hypervisor > I *AM* (separately) interested in docker, for various reasons. Specifically, > I would want to use it as a lightweight VM system, which I *think* works > under Linux. I.e. you can run a container of a non-native OS if it is CPU > compatible w/ the host CPU. AFAIK this is not the case. The reason Docker is lightweight to begin with is because: "Containers running on a single machine all share the same operating system kernel so they start instantly and make more efficient use of RAM" Where did you get this info about Docker being able to run a different OS? As I see it, Docker is nothing more than a copy of the FBSD Jail system ported to Linux and with some sophistications that make it easy to manage the images. Most of this can be done with FBSD Jails and especially with things like EzJail. > As I understand things, that is not feasible w/ > jails, although I have found some URL's which claim otherwise. Clarification > on that point would be welcome as well. I have asked before & been told it > was *NOT* feasible, but maybe things have changed or I am missing something. > TIA & have a good one. > IMO virtualization is not lightweight by definition. So you either virtualize fully or pseudo-virtualize with chroot-like systems. In this perspective I see Docker as nothing more than a sophisticated chroot system just like FBSD Jails, only Linux-based and less mature ;-) Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 11:19:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3F1A82728 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9F0E19E5 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id b14so19587541wmb.1 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:19:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bris-ac-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=lLMWR3/ReSyzUQJklXcflg5CpHnuW9EiHsBvAcWpITU=; b=s+scAGzS6YjeZ6sIXFFIm4ChsrWt0DWtGVmy5j5OlB8HBEAXbTokE8NZxOwvBJnsk1 OLhmmDLbNDY+ann6SMgpupSoySbIyepNlSLsm5mXemsENV5mLcpzPKH5zMyK5tUY+xr5 YoFJvtTNm39u6HIfLM8onDLtsI42SH3nrog/ToEuz+c0140JOPnChgoRuMyQzhMmpzji 8bh9i8hhNgZyK4RrRLt+L9QoumNDUwrDz/DfegJdOs2197YwKww6pL5Xt4eIHUgO7Eo3 V6G8QGh20SfwbEoR4llfSThyL4E7lbEMkRKwuPwGSOh9MFZ2gFFelzRxrCy21Ng2kzmc 7nqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to :in-reply-to; bh=lLMWR3/ReSyzUQJklXcflg5CpHnuW9EiHsBvAcWpITU=; b=ek8/oEXWu99VDUCRC7g2TbD0DYE98tu2VJA1i9meEhFBaNzOxnkgXnvDGpovKi5u+g 8QYja/yAhtK0BYh6KII6MWM4T83IuifSf/ToawlAkQBTR6DOxPFBqPfHX6fqg/uN3Ax5 6htqmFMV1FYig2DZ9SGEOWxehzIDMpcpDcAbcWPVdlnUVoFgQp+u/ZbI2b18n9gZ8nlx c/CbMUBxAjvhNJfgz+RIfykyO7XmjZEutBm6vt2Ld8yA2QoxD/ogxlEByUZHpisBgdde EcDl1YV03n+YGMIVeZuhdI8HvRHorK/2ptG4PE+NFJkD8evoUh3lWUgFhUVYoXscOAk6 EqVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQ0fAZjv16tWOANIhJWR1d/HuiBGKu+aaSGF5hvxFq3jlP09Avqcu3Eox7zTDp8NY6l X-Received: by 10.28.16.78 with SMTP id 75mr2855555wmq.82.1452856775999; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk. 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Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20160114165046.caf70131.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:19:38 -0000 >From freebsd@edvax.de Fri Jan 15 11:16:21 2016 > >Explanation from "man csh": Thank you. I was trying "man jobs" and "man fg", which refer to builtin(1) with no detailed info. 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If you are not interested then you can reply with a simple \"NO\",We will never contact you again. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 15:33:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAADA83CBC for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3273213AD for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0FFXKKT018835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:33:21 -0600 Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56991140.7000608@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:38:50 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:33:28 -0000 On 01/15/16 05:24, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 01/14/16 08:27, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Malcolm Matalka >>> wrote: >>>> Alejandro Imass writes: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, William A. Mahaffey III >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > [...] > >>> My response is pretty clear: Docker is pretty much like FreeBSD Jails >>> so why not use FBSD Jails (e.g. with EzJail) in the first place >>> instead of going through the trouble of getting a Linux-like jail >>> system to run on FreeBSD. And if you want/need Docker so bad then it >>> would probably be better to run on Linux to begin with. >>> > [...] > >> Hmmmm .... It's not so clear to me, but that might be a deficiency @ my end >> :-/. I would like to run 64-bit binaries compiled on/for linux boxen >> (specifically CentOS/RHEL 6) on my FreeBSD boxen, currently 3 in number, all >> various AMD64 CPUs, all running 9.3R. My question only involved docker to >> the extent that the docker wiki page alludes to apparently newly available >> (as of last summer) 64-bit linux binary support, which is what I am really >> interested in. >> > Perhaps you should look into bhyve, the FBSD Hypervisor Bhyve apparently not available for 9.3R. Virtualbox is there & works, but locks up (reserves) a fixed amount of CPU & RAM while running. It is a viable option, I was looking for something a bit 'lighter weight'. Again, my original question pertained to 64-bit linux binary support. 32-bit is there & working (linux ABI layer), I was just curious about how 64-bit was/is going. > >> I *AM* (separately) interested in docker, for various reasons. Specifically, >> I would want to use it as a lightweight VM system, which I *think* works >> under Linux. I.e. you can run a container of a non-native OS if it is CPU >> compatible w/ the host CPU. > AFAIK this is not the case. The reason Docker is lightweight to begin > with is because: > "Containers running on a single machine all share the same operating > system kernel so they start instantly and make more efficient use of > RAM" See https://wiki.freebsd.org/Myths, in the section about: 'FreeBSD Does Not Support Virtualisation' > > As I see it, Docker is nothing more than a copy of the FBSD Jail > system ported to Linux and with some sophistications that make it easy > to manage the images. > > Most of this can be done with FBSD Jails and especially with things like EzJail. > >> As I understand things, that is not feasible w/ >> jails, although I have found some URL's which claim otherwise. Clarification >> on that point would be welcome as well. I have asked before & been told it >> was *NOT* feasible, but maybe things have changed or I am missing something. >> TIA & have a good one. >> > IMO virtualization is not lightweight by definition. So you either > virtualize fully or pseudo-virtualize with chroot-like systems. > In this perspective I see Docker as nothing more than a sophisticated > chroot system just like FBSD Jails, only Linux-based and less mature > ;-) > > Best, > Alejandro Imass Thanks for all info so far. Have a good one :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 15:40:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE35EA83FA5 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C3101C5F for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0FFesXZ027405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:40:55 -0600 Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56991306.4000005@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:46:24 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:40:56 -0000 On 01/15/16 05:24, Alejandro Imass wrote: > AFAIK this is not the case. The reason Docker is lightweight to begin > with is because: > "Containers running on a single machine all share the same operating > system kernel so they start instantly and make more efficient use of > RAM" See: https://wiki.freebsd.org/VIMAGE/Linux/CentOS55 (refers to jails, not docker) > > IMO virtualization is not lightweight by definition. So you either > virtualize fully or pseudo-virtualize with chroot-like systems. > In this perspective I see Docker as nothing more than a sophisticated > chroot system just like FBSD Jails, only Linux-based and less mature > ;-) > > Best, > Alejandro Imass > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 17:24:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B66A8339B for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C1E01359 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MSZ6u-1alfO83j3E-00Rcsd for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:24:19 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:25:27 -0900 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: Sh-test, bug or not? Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0Lg5kl-1ZnW3s29Zj-00pbLI@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:x32XBjhaWeWhT6f0fXsY6U3hz01y3KPQwYRRv9x8eouNcBBXJsN GEt2XQan6Vk4DXdC8Gb4Gc9i6zcQe+yo4d79YFWF39SqWAR6Wee4XmnS8qPN03Qlg1JUKGR KoU5du1UwcjaSpc0ZG7YFbtx7F/Lj3RgcGyiqybbuLdTH1l+0QBLVQEGzgyIVxbYxP4pHlu m9rb2d9ACVvAbgounNZIg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:eM6DZCEOVyE=:AOyngSryx7bhVVCblJ+0Yt rnOwShTEc/K1EZGBoudKy890HqBJZgh6II0Kp1luu2V5Wb0CSAHJBzvGdcM9/eClhKIUAsQhU plW5jeUq3VcVYNhPR2xMx1nkJ0NDbuFVG71rxKDOEPl8Jd6CjTbQs+LIgNMhJIN5qlwLIk0aO 2kNbUpBw/wTWXt5anIvx7AcOehpWdWasgHgFteazJEIW0wIzopbgv6k3sykQHtVZACWI7FsrG 1z18uKDo//OKpc2nd/KO7xUjF4b9mA7uPObZ3ewx53Ch5NYWlfn91tsWe99fMxnIvrjyb29sc JUILudeJec92rYc4QYJLjgiarwU6666QPiWoAQyDJL0Pdsd+72Isp6cJrmLLCoFmHTF3r3vqz sNXL2gXpq/lsJHRQSilSHE/ac6Fzcb3SHgwPb7G0XS8tYfJAkUODXwhuTEwONhuyEkEhzq95X Suq/69vFfjveT69L2b3B3X6BNQkfFwP2385OeCm9BPT9opOpJ8biy0lHdxt6DRD79M7rc5Y6J JdD3rjeBuyWry0+077odSUYgvelFM338KWMx1eIdXhPanuUxxkpzo4u0eJWAFAJdDKfgJToSx cku+u2U9yi3fDYpab3z5BqSHTL8gXijhCUlISOwxg6HXABzHKr73RpBgANuJzWDjpDBHDl9Vp lWFMXUsZPnneKJ+2iwK5nSMSfB4MFOu4RnHVGuRKHeksBPmuNONTYLVKgM3sTNsbmoIiVbPQW YMRxA64WjbQaHMerXAapMpZlwc2DyV2pEmTosiIs8uPHESAGZ4Jo5TF4670= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:24:28 -0000 > On 15/01/2016 04:32, CK wrote: > > If you have authoritative knowledge on the subject, > > please state if this functionality is correct: > > > > $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > > pass > > $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > > pass > > > > The "-a" operator binds stronger than the "!" operator. > > Intuition based on functionality in awk/C would suppose > > that the "!" operator would bind stronger than the "-a" > > operator, especially since "-a" does in fact have higher > > precedence than the "-o" operator, as in awk/C. > > > > In order to make it work as "expected", it gets ugly: > > > > $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > > pass > > $ [ \( ! "" \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > > fail > > > > $ [ ! 11 -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > > pass > > $ [ \( ! 11 \) -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > > fail > > > > I never noticed this in 20 years, so I don't know if it always > > worked this way, or if something changed in my upgrade from > > 4.11 to 9.3. > > -- > REPLY#1 > ####### > I think that while unexpected in comparison to other languages which > have inherited C-like operator precedence rules, this is according to > the POSIX standard for test(1). As the man page says: > > The test grammar is inherently ambiguous. In order to assure a degree > of consistency, the cases described in the IEEE Std 1003.2 > (``POSIX.2''), section D11.2/4.62.4, standard are evaluated > consistently according to the rules specified in the standards > document. All other cases are subject to the ambiguity in the > command semantics. > > and it notes that the ambiguous cases are those involving (), -a and -o. > > Your test might be more clearly expressed as: > > $ [ ! "" ] && [ "" ] && echo pass || echo fail > fail > > (although I'd recommend the -z and -n operators for testing the > emptiness / undefinedness or not of strings.) > > -- > REPLY#2 > ####### > I would never claim to be an authority, but a quick look at the test(1) > code shows that although the comments starting line 53 suggest the > grammar one would expect, there's a special case in main() for an > expression of exactly four parts starting with "!". The comment on line > 218 is relevant to your tests. > > 217 if (nargc == 4 && strcmp(*t_wp, "!") == 0) { > 218 /* Things like ! "" -o x do not fit in the normal grammar. */ > 219 --nargc; > 220 ++t_wp; > 221 res = oexpr(t_lex(*t_wp)); > 222 } else > 223 res = !oexpr(t_lex(*t_wp)); > > I presume the shells use a version of this code as well. My guess would > be that this is some sort of kludge going back to the original bourne > shell, but someone else more knowledgeable than me will have to deal > with that. In regards to Reply#1, yes, I did read that previously, but that leaves the sensibility of the cited functionality open to whatever is most sensible. And the current functionality does not seem sensible due to its apparent senseless incongruity with standard functionality in most/all other languages, in addition to making simple expressions more lengthy/tedious/ugly than necessary. Of course, these were just examples to demonstrate the functionality. In regards to Reply#2 - that sure is odd! $ [ ! "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail pass $ [ ! "" -a "" -a "" ] && echo pass || echo fail fail Haha ... !!! You hit the nail on the head! This is terrible. Thank you for making that insightful effort to find the real reason for this functionality - this sure is a strange exception. May you be free from danger, happy, healthy, and loving with ease. Submitted 21 hours ago by unixygirl, theravada [/r/Buddhism] :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 17:31:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CBEA83972 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allan@physics.umn.edu) Received: from mail.physics.umn.edu (smtp.spa.umn.edu [128.101.220.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E90F71AE1 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allan@physics.umn.edu) Received: from peevish.spa.umn.edu ([128.101.220.230]) by mail.physics.umn.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1aK7x2-000HDm-Cr; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:14:16 -0600 Received: by peevish.spa.umn.edu (Postfix, from userid 5000) id 56D7FE63; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:14:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:14:16 -0600 From: Graham Allan To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support Message-ID: <20160115171416.GO7929@physics.umn.edu> References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> <56991140.7000608@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56991140.7000608@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:31:46 -0000 On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:38:50AM -0553, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Again, my original question pertained to 64-bit linux binary > support. 32-bit is there & working (linux ABI layer), I was just > curious about how 64-bit was/is going. I was sure I'd seen some news about it, but the most recent I could find was in the 2Q 2015 status report: https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-04-2015-06.html#Linux-Binary-Emulation-Layer-Upgrade G. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 18:07:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B557A84805 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markhamb@corp.ssimicro.com) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E39A9196F for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markhamb@corp.ssimicro.com) Received: from yk-office-RESERVED-64-247-130-128.ssimicro.com (yk-office-RESERVED-64-247-130-128.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u0FI4JgN028502 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:04:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> <56991140.7000608@hiwaay.net> <20160115171416.GO7929@physics.umn.edu> From: markham breitbach Message-ID: <569935BB.4000305@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:08:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160115171416.GO7929@physics.umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:07:29 -0000 This might be what you are thinking of : https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=508561+0+archive/2015/freebsd-questions/20150913.freebsd-questions "Some (if not most) has been commited to current but was too late to be included with 10.2" -M On 2016-01-15 10:14 AM, Graham Allan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:38:50AM -0553, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Again, my original question pertained to 64-bit linux binary >> support. 32-bit is there & working (linux ABI layer), I was just >> curious about how 64-bit was/is going. > I was sure I'd seen some news about it, but the most recent I could find > was in the 2Q 2015 status report: > > https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-04-2015-06.html#Linux-Binary-Emulation-Layer-Upgrade > > G. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 18:48:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2D8A8386C for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from relay16.nicmail.ru (relay16.nicmail.ru [195.208.5.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D833A189C for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from [109.70.25.34] (port=43639 helo=nicmail.ru) by f17.mail.nic.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1aK9Pz-000HwG-3E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:48:15 +0300 Received: from [10.0.6.226] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO fujitsu) by fcgp28.nicmail.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPA id 8003589 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:48:14 +0300 Received: from [188.123.231.37] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO fujitsu) by proxy06.mail.nic.ru (Exim 5.55) with id 1aK9Py-0008Pu-OT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:48:14 +0300 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:46:09 +0300 From: Eax Melanhovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to list all files included in a package? Message-ID: <20160115214609.56fe6518@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:48:23 -0000 Using pkg I can determine package name by file: pkg which /usr/local/bin/glxinfo Is it possible to do an opposite i.e. list all files in a give package? -- Best regards, Eax Melanhovich http://eax.me/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 18:50:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D314CA83A76 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EC0E1A09 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id b14so38506412wmb.1 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:50:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vP56Il1wBhxL1Bf4vna5BEgiOCVljtgPNVwumOyjIQU=; b=uH1EYS5jCbN8tNGX7g+D7pvz1nai+O7Cdi6PsPkI7UGqesn1MIiFpAk+/EpSekd5SS MRhWd7RhrXwmuR6WL5phLVPGWKcvA2Jpnl1KUxtG6pVdyU2Z0Rs8EtSev9edc+so6NEP wcQoV4uNePHsHsTjemwU2ztjbQb0DWUCF2sYYwpnEbkaqiQIHFmaqdaMEjQfUJBWzxmY WFeq+WR6jtJ7zDWZi1QN7WfqgAHlgxrp82Hp7ZedWBX/CyFMdFlJYMI8I/v5l1lLJNcG BuGhTYtLiyApPPjnX0NKyx7jQxN4iXq10WSY2znSFLC7Kz7lxeEQdcTiPccpoIUvR0VZ 7ouw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vP56Il1wBhxL1Bf4vna5BEgiOCVljtgPNVwumOyjIQU=; b=S9xRJG54sQd+sgdKKFpnnJUAjoS+zDCsFFlRv7nCVyftOWyUOWUMucy2bqPHKRvy2h T+jpq/ia6e5YOeNUnI9NfSW1Qskq8GmxOSfyO6H67NbIGhxAVNtPmVSNVklu+VQku/zE 1EQ4Kh31Bc7RPJii4jVBw2TCzFGpVy3592zY0huNpZYdx4NL7SWKo2YikdFDYTWuyro0 0q+9b3wIXAtn/7V/d94X5I9VPTIPSaWAeTsFfT6beKbwZoOf/cZqjoSd/tqtrDzp2kep B6t+DJUr0AgWd3ZN3Kt1pByltamVJsPU3aVF6S4UzSnVq16p19Yk8Q3aQBcRKKSqC5qz wcMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQjusbJqB8zYyQts3Ns3xd9Ph0dh016DaPh5UTLHMZGOfU0Mx//blUFV7y++MjtbNJzR5HtX47UoxdHjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.183.132 with SMTP id h126mr135892wmf.6.1452883855038; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.246.73 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.246.73 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160115214609.56fe6518@fujitsu> References: <20160115214609.56fe6518@fujitsu> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:50:54 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to list all files included in a package? From: Anton Sayetsky To: Eax Melanhovich Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:50:56 -0000 15 =D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B2. 2016 =D0=B3. 20:48 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Eax Melanhovich" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > Using pkg I can determine package name by file: > > pkg which /usr/local/bin/glxinfo > > Is it possible to do an opposite i.e. list all files in a give package? RTFM! Hint: man pkg-query From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 19:03:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A3CA83FB5 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markoml@markoturk.info) Received: from vps.markoturk.info (vps.markoturk.info [95.154.208.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C381316 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markoml@markoturk.info) Received: from vps.markoturk.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vps.markoturk.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id C681A27446; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:58:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:58:17 +0100 From: Marko Turk To: Eax Melanhovich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to list all files included in a package? Message-ID: <20160115185817.GA4346@vps.markoturk.info> References: <20160115214609.56fe6518@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160115214609.56fe6518@fujitsu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:03:48 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:46:09PM +0300, Eax Melanhovich wrote: > Using pkg I can determine package name by file: >=20 > pkg which /usr/local/bin/glxinfo >=20 > Is it possible to do an opposite i.e. list all files in a give package?= =20 >=20 pkg info -l --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWmUFIAAoJEHg6bF2mqM2I0ToQAKxvBxQ1UKv30t0DwvzTs0YX 5Q0S9XGoVXhYw4OKM5Ia5Hc2I2hvOXsmCd4mb0j1src7VbTty1PDYbdR9y5J0gH2 xQ67k91gS2wleTg8p7/CGFHsXp8mtpgvIcFcTAXZCYCBZ/QBVXHRrEkbiUGcZSjK tvtE/5XkAQiYPwN7UHRCO8+j/8xHlD0YZ1z+Iu2GonfojZFDCBgBrfgkZs2kobZj 8oRz35vMif/42cIZMkJjDDB0GBB0ElOq+djA1m8uCDu4oxdy5GpVN0RPpz311e8G Ug0tOX0M8ABl7YJ301StaXzmg33KDlQpggYi8y0KESCT7nOv9jZ1vKaqBR6QDcKc YS85QNV7mPTkFMokK6HBhhGtpaU7MGDyqbRIQZdfkqXMO5L+mrAnVwxg0/bDSYKB X4vmPGp4QDzUmj5A8Lfo31oRXq0cLIUYpu42hEI7TpqopxFMG8SJY1MjsQOd+oOK zMsAkwHncA6H3sFLRMdaObUWcKJgVqf0eF1M4UD/wl5pAl04lyq8EFuU4LSiY6kQ nWafUX0FNUpWVvhS8JauN7+xLIMhHBHcJ+Qy7YaVpbSNU/tak/9vy09ZL6FInUrm uyBAfpSrfcnt+R3DWFag9TveZiAnY7Q97N/kzuGm2uhbVWGWqLpcnOYCYQeVxx86 JxJ6hpYh00ZzLyFSCb+l =6dt0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 15 20:11:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86654A83209 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3933910F0 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0FKBUGw028750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:11:31 -0600 Subject: Re: 64 bit linux binary support References: <5696740B.5070404@hiwaay.net> <86si20mza9.fsf@gmail.com> <5697B6DE.6000706@hiwaay.net> <56991140.7000608@hiwaay.net> <20160115171416.GO7929@physics.umn.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56995272.50801@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:17:00 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160115171416.GO7929@physics.umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:11:33 -0000 On 01/15/16 11:20, Graham Allan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:38:50AM -0553, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Again, my original question pertained to 64-bit linux binary >> support. 32-bit is there & working (linux ABI layer), I was just >> curious about how 64-bit was/is going. > I was sure I'd seen some news about it, but the most recent I could find > was in the 2Q 2015 status report: > > https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-04-2015-06.html#Linux-Binary-Emulation-Layer-Upgrade > > G. > Now that you mention it, I *think* I had seen that earlier as well. Sadly, no mention of back-porting to 9.3R :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 00:19:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44174A844DB for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 00:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from relay10.netenterprise.net (relay10.netenterprise.net [66.180.133.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2D01A06 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 00:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) X-Envelope-From: noc@hdk5.net X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: From imail5.netenterprise.net (64.29.90.135) by relay10.netenterprise.net (MAILFOUNDRY) id sw6PYLvnEeWy+wAl; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 00:25:52 -0000 (GMT) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.5.3.93) id 35f400052f63781a; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:18:57 -1000 Message-ID: <56998C72.7080407@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:18:58 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kpneal@pobox.com CC: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: help with making DVD install disc.. 11 References: <20160114171111.C93547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <5697FA71.7020706@hdk5.net> <20160115135101.GA55744@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20160115135101.GA55744@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 00:19:08 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 09:43:45AM -1000, al plant wrote: > >> Aloha and Thanks Ian, >> > > Aloha! > > >> I got Fiber optic service here on island last year and had to change >> some of my boxes to work with the new network. >> > > I'm a little jealous. I wish I had fiber service. Maybe Google will > rescue me. > > >> Maybe I have to wait untill the FreeBSD 11 RELEASE comes out. I get big >> media and in out errors when I try to create CD or DVD. >> >> Any ideas appreciated. >> > > I don't know what "big media and in out errors" means. Is that two > different errors? What program prints out these errors? > Aloha, I think the FreeBSD os doesn't like the way the DVD or CD recorders read the notation.I suspect hardware. Could be size of media. in/out errors I think means hardware failed too. I was able to get One DVD to record with out errors. But when you go to play it to install there is an error comes up on the screen of that new , hope to be, install Box. The only version I have on my 2 working desktops is FreeBD 8 CURRENT. I hope someone on the list has an idea how to fix it. ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net email: alplant.att.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 07:50:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B0AA830F1 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A45311730 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 1so461170687ion.1 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:50:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jensenwaud-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GIHtGFuPeqkyblz09DNZBf6udcLLS4pt/tlgxl2Ulns=; b=weArjOmylZ4yXhPsb2qo/ERI+DZ4cy0ruGZ0JEs+3qqkT3IhL8Ck2bnV46GuX4iofx PA5GB1sPxjmIXLYFmf3yO8Cc8+nQFgWrvGa8m+k59HgF6T9utTMEh1whGxidJK4jZhrA N4wz2+rt9WzOH5zZCE5kXkoepvob8DkmePSs+HqpytoYHN65qKzyETiLCy/jK7fL3At2 8fabmuEaW+n8Sx5MKyZ3TAx03RtGIXx5/gf2+Jx2kQjJfZCxUdM2MvYCJu5Lp6Bs7ydS 0LuRRa0YlHNwQfqrEcDVMGas1Ngi8LrbihBk/YyIdQpgQQ91Vldlt/JmKHkVBRywgB4d I1Ig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GIHtGFuPeqkyblz09DNZBf6udcLLS4pt/tlgxl2Ulns=; b=kQWZGAzyM6YPtl8RcGUxZjnJZHUfVHlPj/3dg3qWsmRVDqg6o97BgIcaPMoyPiO3qz q0gY4iVqYyFXUK7wUyFx8c4G5o0Atj5tMyv1V9hgeWq2L/HTxA5LBhGR27IKAwRGroDd /Kqqw+fbf0JlMkhG9IH0yMT2go61+MDZU4NFd9BxN9JPufJxrtrLdJfqTOKXx5z6v5xE ze/+rAph+RxlbjKRxZO0DYn4z7LH6BeXa9ksMWrTlpjW70UZurDxJSBWnC2E8ZMwqz7q h4mGt91qgZQmrU9GWXASJoMLHKjgh7yd9KPmmwpOHJKhXEBw9WXMk7QwiJI9YPi7JmuQ QFiw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlKWYPUoMPufd7msDILKceAKzCGIoiINhEXPRsJjWZDkT8hh7hz2XE8airnqZ4ikkDR/KPOh+vGJAirQ5B2FnwORunBBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.129.91 with SMTP id c88mr14417642iod.12.1452930619472; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.134.226 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:50:19 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [220.244.182.21] In-Reply-To: References: <20160112124503.2db376c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160112143640.1e6e1c68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160113022953.4f025345.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:50:19 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is it possible to mount my microSD ? From: Anders Jensen-Waud To: Manish Jain Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , chris scott Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:50:20 -0000 On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Manish Jain wrote: > >> > My phone is not a smartphone. I belong to the eccentric variety with a > strong preference for traditional, buttoned handsets. I so much wish with > nostalgia for the old days when Sony Ericsson and Nokia made such fantastic > handsets. Now everything is lousy touchscreen. > > If you can find a phone that supports MTP, it is very easy to browse the memory card using Fuse. I did the same with my micro SD card, albeit from a digital camera. For instance: # pkg install fusefs-gphotofs # kldload fuse % gphotofs /mnt % ls /mnt store_00010001 % mount -t fusefs /dev/fuse on /mnt (fusefs, local, synchronous) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 07:57:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB2A834D4 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4411C56 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DCA66A834D2; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3C3A834D1 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5DBC1C52 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x233.google.com with SMTP id h5so23314919igh.0 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:57:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jensenwaud-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=J6+QcWZfxKYMYPDljr/x8h8h/Or+5IKClZvfqO0EMIw=; b=tYVTqAoDYfDfdrW+ax8gBIzp/FAnc2a7CSXEZhehmcmeJTi+RUn4fjQ4ZoBh+ItGSK 9hS9K9Vq8T90RvP5t4WNpmZZ6LcaL4yWMfeJj0OreukWPWVk9zxvQye22QnG/oqm1m8T jhkaiYYp8H0g3iZU1lypU/+3Ct9+FZdLWJkt9geOSW8FaogA+fEACJidsJiSQYqRhRgs gWxssNp9d4XlIpA/pG5K5LIhRvW+uYvOh9ZxRQQ32VOLrQ/8nVtRVS/dNA1uR9sHQU5S sZuQezc5zgVDqpmVbidt81wcz5OazHICK/IVIN9Es1j0pV0m2l7jMaJWJ28hCGoDRWP5 gkhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J6+QcWZfxKYMYPDljr/x8h8h/Or+5IKClZvfqO0EMIw=; b=OhjXf4omh7Uvr2TjlDG/6WF2kyuZCurGofUeqpBixfC0dhwVU+JUSvkDSP18b7gCtK tweGOgbkMFQypZ4os/EATGLcqsxcD7AMhd2lCpsd0bVmAWPK00F7G/hjJhjZiQn9/qfs e9eHp4p2LsKFVf/Mg55I+N2Wyu9JZgXn7rAs+HD+QS8KsvtwEJxUJqPO/dF9qbJvk+df KgNcijDTVLHomlUqbLXsxLYO7UMqCE7yxlZVI7wAYpraiKpog5gpJhRQ9eP1HiHPvjUD nh79jXiPDzz4bCoK27jFNER9+mExvFOCPpPWbUia7GYbOueaRLsTT9stSONMW9Fm+XLP HxyA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSCzCeVOrfItTP/5tcynSihBIal4Z2E22tHARI74+aXH63mbtK7JMKIhcB3zussgc5uAjT9Mmg2t4/xTQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.8.42 with SMTP id o10mr2341325iga.59.1452931055968; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.134.226 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:57:35 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [220.244.182.21] In-Reply-To: <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:57:35 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install Unix on a laptop with Windows OS From: Anders Jensen-Waud To: Eleonora Marchioretti Cc: "doc@FreeBSD.org" , "questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:57:37 -0000 On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Eleonora Marchioretti via freebsd-doc < freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> wrote: > Hi > I would like to know if it is possible to install UNIX (not Linux) on a > laptop that has already a Windows OS and if you have instructions to do > it.Thank you in advance. > Best regardsEleonora > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you don't want to replace Windows (that is, do dual boot), an option is to first repartition the disk using Gparted or similar from a usb based Linux distribution such as Knoppix. Install Knoppix onto a USB drive, boot from it and start Gparted to resize your Windows partition and make space for the FreeBSD partition. Remember to back up your data before doing this. (See http://gparted.org/faq.php#faq-7) Once done, start the FreeBSD install as usual, installing to the free space on your drive. You will need to install the FreeBSD boot loader to the MBR in order to do multi-boot. Cheers Anders From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 12:36:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BB9A84256 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from relay15.nicmail.ru (relay15.nicmail.ru [195.208.5.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D2A1027 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from [31.177.73.133] (port=48739 helo=nicmail.ru) by f19.mail.nic.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1aKQ5u-000H0u-A4; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:36:38 +0300 Received: from [10.0.6.228] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO fujitsu) by fcgp19.nicmail.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPA id 41939630; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:36:37 +0300 Received: from [188.123.231.37] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO fujitsu) by proxy08.mail.nic.ru (Exim 5.55) with id 1aKQ5t-0007ti-Ox; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:36:37 +0300 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:34:31 +0300 From: Eax Melanhovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Marko Turk , Anton Sayetsky Subject: Re: How to list all files included in a package? Message-ID: <20160116153431.7625e2c2@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <20160115185817.GA4346@vps.markoturk.info> References: <20160115214609.56fe6518@fujitsu> <20160115185817.GA4346@vps.markoturk.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:36:48 -0000 Thanks a lot! On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:58:17 +0100 Marko Turk wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:46:09PM +0300, Eax Melanhovich wrote: > > Using pkg I can determine package name by file: > > > > pkg which /usr/local/bin/glxinfo > > > > Is it possible to do an opposite i.e. list all files in a give > > package? > > > > pkg info -l -- Best regards, Eax Melanhovich http://eax.me/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 16:33:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F4EA8392D for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6428E1D21 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 60107A8392B; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5C5A83927; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5CB1D1F; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 522BFCB8C99; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:03:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from 69.209.234.99 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:03:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <50251.69.209.234.99.1452960222.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:03:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Install Unix on a laptop with Windows OS From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Anders Jensen-Waud" Cc: "Eleonora Marchioretti" , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , "doc@FreeBSD.org" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:33:35 -0000 On Sat, January 16, 2016 1:57 am, Anders Jensen-Waud wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Eleonora Marchioretti via freebsd-doc < > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> Hi >> I would like to know if it is possible to install UNIX (not Linux) on a >> laptop that has already a Windows OS and if you have instructions to do >> it.Thank you in advance. >> Best regardsEleonora >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > If you don't want to replace Windows (that is, do dual boot), an option > is > to first repartition the disk using Gparted or similar from a usb based > Linux distribution such as Knoppix. Install Knoppix onto a USB drive, boot > from it and start Gparted to resize your Windows partition and make space > for the FreeBSD partition. Remember to back up your data before doing > this. > > (See http://gparted.org/faq.php#faq-7) Alternatively, you can make free space using Windows Disk management tool: shrink Windows main partition. The rest: as Andreas describes. Valeri > > Once done, start the FreeBSD install as usual, installing to the free > space > on your drive. You will need to install the FreeBSD boot loader to the MBR > in order to do multi-boot. > > Cheers > > Anders > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 16:39:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397F2A83BC9 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AF71EFB for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 18FDCA83BC7; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A2FA83BBF; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB9221EFA; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id u188so57084092wmu.1; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:39:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=c9PDeJR6e3TlksD5DhCrWwwXkJ3Z5wUZeXOYfDDxL/U=; b=gXBwO7e0BUnm7AB5F2F7pG/7Pf0LblNLYpJm+ZQuP9KJOLXFO7xTuwNxWXE/1n0HaJ QnhLfFzilkcVnOr5W82z8shELa9ugapfPUwESRwnLvb1Nt5fRbQ7AL4Zu2SqfS/0ZHcj uDRlYmiH55aPOyan/F/+qAYWPenABxM8ngr38rUgNmZPqGD6SmQv8MHghgVEMceK2wZ0 EHQvIDJW6PGpMU5uyFrD1rZ6vCDjgGCzBbdmCRN3sFrsUHh6SbZsZjJpmwVU0h9VhgCW vIWPucZ9wLT+Ij+QqKfig+T009n5Tzhs3MOh5yiC5Ta3x8n40ov1dpN1ziwFlGkCEs5g 3bXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=c9PDeJR6e3TlksD5DhCrWwwXkJ3Z5wUZeXOYfDDxL/U=; b=fk/djKAoY+MB1K/+1gllFWzKO+g7XsJU3q1BD4SIehYLrk8kctcCSeWKndcBT5SY3i PhTQNZkCccA3BNtQ7yL1c0eNnDGMJBozdvwM2JJj6AVVcGqnhDDRITttx7Fk/6PkmuRJ kRgVZf9uaTL4p3VFcjYEkmEvRHpwz02HTU3JeBPxicFHeCabO3oYUqAPkXuNtnpSiJua ro9/WPxvOx+lTxxQL3GbRreS5IPqjoX/K+3y+0aFUDH2UW87G22aCVkdwPsm7CO0Hxzp 51hFI7risttISKis3ZrTIAQ2ZbSrKsklbiBPBmmV755KQ2SQGrnzg656EKFu3LdtYA05 ztPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOS/PIe841YKJ3nfjc9GJ+yNGhSqhMes4F0S+vPuaxf+x4ZsgMVmSRpIsZR0j4wwPcA5aVmYQiVnLW5acg== X-Received: by 10.28.189.11 with SMTP id n11mr4725765wmf.3.1452962375182; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:39:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mozolevsky@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.11.77 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:38:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <33018666.1010913.1452316374119.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:38:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Cfcz83dpWmTan4R62fIifCLivVs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install Unix on a laptop with Windows OS To: Eleonora Marchioretti Cc: "doc@FreeBSD.org" , "questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:39:38 -0000 On 9 January 2016 at 05:12, Eleonora Marchioretti via freebsd-doc < freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> wrote: I would like to know if it is possible to install UNIX (not Linux) on a > laptop that has already a Windows OS and if you have instructions to do > it.Thank you in advance. > Is virtualisation an option? -- Igor M. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 18:13:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E721EA844FB for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from to.my.trociny@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22f.google.com (mail-lb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67CD713CE for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from to.my.trociny@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lb0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id oh2so330156824lbb.3 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:13:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=8oUMd5Yld1jCmjROZMxd4xjJ63FQZYkIkJYeFcmHEUs=; b=vdwdRtrsrCEGrETWCOkUHmeqDaknDQMul1UeiqvlCkgOpQkW2bFwSo4hJxKCiWmWMH oROXitETox5+9EJiS7oLEUxBjYu2bLgeaHfOsAgZOOo668IJYVZ599ypy1CkXqZK1uop 3fmLnGeONba/3Q4pMNO8A747LsT04zOhcSoitcLgebhjjtBFZiHI4gwb0mVJhaPDHTCM Y41pj5LzTYiNDORn8q1j673xCyCCPknNRQ+93x+5OsxkL0U7z15m16d7qhvuYkiemIGm eAI9BQ9oCxLiF0/74/SjR757iYjxHDPwYauxK8V+ttXKZFXC+sxdx4E0vfGlQCtkHLfT 96dQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=8oUMd5Yld1jCmjROZMxd4xjJ63FQZYkIkJYeFcmHEUs=; b=FGulMMVAXl2Jjj4zoasjBjXztV/P8Juko0GZxKoVYO+aC1VN5DVvZtfWb+L7wn1VWa W2gH/eed2xAc0TaB3zlhExgbXh0KfUEtdkp+Ncj5dOd9W1Vcb5NRzOVUvs61qO4OohTY 2ZtUrA8qXuC7OV9QcKxjdzmXSnhsJXmJvkJAuESXo3ego87FeXBU0e9mF+C/3Jp6Wj5j lfRZiUcNx64yknpGBJwvu8z2CSLUGZrYl/wl2TQ7SHvaalaSPGewFOBVRbu9yfTs10qN 0sIXn7fcbpipCELJ7HnLGjch87tZLlnZCnP/fyTRbQ64dzmkjE8Sd1aa2UscDm18qsYp eQcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmoIGdHnuLhI7CvsoE4fdsKdQ92llW712BlVvSVWOqciJLsF3u7aAxBcNsGUlcmZlLIBftITlMqI1z4nOLw+kZqQwvBvA== X-Received: by 10.112.132.66 with SMTP id os2mr5636034lbb.111.1452967988356; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([91.225.202.62]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ac10sm633912lbc.44.2016.01.16.10.13.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:13:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: Mykola Golub Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:13:06 +0200 From: Mykola Golub To: Shahin Hasanov Cc: FREEBSD_QUESTION Subject: Re: the switching time hastd from secondary to primary Message-ID: <20160116181305.GA2165@gmail.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:12 -0000 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 02:23:46PM +0400, Shahin Hasanov wrote: > In /usr/local/sbin/ucarp_up.sh(below shown extract of it) script > ucarp waiting while it became primary. It tooks about 20 sec as > written > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hast.conf&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+10.2-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html > . > for i in `jot 30`; do > pgrep -f "hastd: ${resource} \(secondary\)" >/dev/null 2>&1 || break > sleep 1 > done > if pgrep -f "hastd: ${resource} \(secondary\)" >/dev/null 2>&1; then > logger -p local0.error -t hast "Secondary process for resource ${resource} is still running after 30 seconds." > exit 1 > fi Looking at the logs would be nice. But I guess you are hitting here timeout in the thread waiting for incoming data from primary. This timeout is 2 * HAST_KEEPALIVE, and HAST_KEEPALIVE is hardcoded to 10 sec. So right now it can be changed only by recompiling hastd. On the other hand, hitting this timeout means that the connection was not closed properly, so it is not a case, I would expected for "planned" failovering, when the role is changed using `hastctl role` commands. This looks like rather a case of disaster recovery after networking partitioning, host crash, hang, etc.. In my opinion waiting for 20 sec is not bad comparing with possibility to have split-brain if the former primary is still alive. If you observe 20 sec timeout when doing "planned" failovering, I guess there is something wrong with the scripts that do switching. -- Mykola Golub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 22:18:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58671A85C38 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4021F187A for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3C25CA85C37; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABF5A85C36 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) Received: from nm33-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB8DD1878 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.haraden@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1452982536; bh=7CAR4Vix55i1SRRoE8R1uNDfITQlhk7x95zl2Ut4Hds=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=d26S1swkHWjrOk8SdVDMUEbJGN4PR84oMoJvtJyCQyKdxCjTMtgT3gvFKcgWizC52vxJXew+kQS3Hg40XzncsrGe3hFealAKJ44fEk49b9oxWlXSNRwYSpel+9S7rq4XsihCB2lO/2/DHMTsB7ifFoH6QezUCmspzJ4/V/DoW1+Oj2ISBaEOtYZtZzlPKFZwRyXB422Mwibn3T6Wa5Wyl8c/a/hF6DqUNbxEE4fEcqb+gUkFYQFPaW4HZuMIWh6SHdZEQr91A/K6Wk9DowxPwEQbiiy15rsMgaUvTCWTiK+2SPMml7NAxL6uvBq+LY5AbDqZddgSfDGpcPG6SzUFxQ== Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm33.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2016 22:15:36 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.65] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2016 22:15:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp222.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2016 22:15:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 183011.17736.bm@smtp222.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vnDpvoUVM1mpqXnbdMTqNiftA1pjEfPXbWmWmaoEDomNkdp uxNQym59QPJ_7HzoUpnDItxeFQXYJV0phTRZYsXSpDuDDnGr.HaW1ovw35fN s8IMD0XfixY54cfpf5F.4h37M4p9TYR5N4vSrC54AkxusCLcKeDTNG4.Ju.W VIkSlGRkq.vkMSeAm1n0szH0WawYRdR_e1do_8.HiTBcejecq0TsE2FoPj3N M3GuQ4vVu02ZZY_O.3nwqOnqa9ZSzyh13XUDQqPtQ41dn02DJ8PtQzyd4UJV lqtLQHvuQsBLRUu9wEERhBL4SbukgLqjkC76bO.W7k5cAE4QGKOuLCm3thte YDTh56MXPhDsEvCQT8JRF1PJ54mDoE0vAlbMcuYzESIw3GFjjWKwG_Rabs2p COQpkISppBC6AM3j.3hxVWN8qOmgLO4eY.fho6JgHyQJ692eSxzMbrftXBXO EN8_DII2_0q8Ii6sXLsvwG4XJZ6FUjlFw_lL_xCALBGPpvZ_CwGQXkHHA2dJ xsMD0vKT0yrUVTGzQ7hpnSHNfNnpo7L4xSpj9 X-Yahoo-SMTP: EqlcfRSswBDyHGnv7_9yWbMffSHJ6eNoZA-- From: john.haraden@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Fortran compiler Message-Id: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:15:34 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:18:00 -0000 When will the base system ship with a fortran compiler? GCC is cumbersome a= nd requires special linking commands to form an executable file from compile= d object files. Why not resurrect the old f77? Sent from my iPhone= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 22:23:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8017A85E4F for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86121BB0 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C633BA85E4E; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C21A85E4D for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E46A1BAE for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u0GMN9wt011259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:23:10 -0600 Subject: Re: Fortran compiler To: questions@freebsd.org References: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <569AC2CD.7020105@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:28:39 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:23:18 -0000 On 01/16/16 16:21, john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions wrote: > When will the base system ship with a fortran compiler? GCC is cumbersome and requires special linking commands to form an executable file from compiled object files. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 23:22:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A100A85513 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4ED1956 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7B293A85512; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E3BA85511 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F13301954 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id n5so14556587wmn.0 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:22:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=M9RiYQwwbWogfIQ8At3O+MGAkO4JnvFiMUaPMcjElN4=; b=iCsgbl5HHGtJkzKiKVq7kLemLBWPl8NLoZ/enlTJ352MuGqfD/qHndI4kGXhSviKDu UtLM6nUYMvuXYLXkkODsW0bhiLc39B6kaTRmYSee+bxWwck2Ryrtq8jk022IW9Ft4K2P pET7r0ZSAuYncbLmQuDmdsI1rR7GT5BkdJbywjQvwgTLP40OBwyvbIyYIX4Oxd/hCmg6 aQdIAdZrIxRhAYh+xSxidGb5SxpGkTcdrS88rw17sSPd6ezpC6uIETPDXIDZajSriXrf QQODEFh0TNT5FCtzbEMZubYG+btkog6at8DjDcBIhVp06UEFwvUAXVeWPaODXEY9iWzO BpOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=M9RiYQwwbWogfIQ8At3O+MGAkO4JnvFiMUaPMcjElN4=; b=PdWcP91zbsojP3VgIbOinJbv/FDZ9RmzzCelBtPOsn1SsKIzXfo2WNNIXrs31Ff6hB vANxVgGivbir5n2ecnZlsaH2VjQCECY15O+YQPEIHsj9OTmrr5ybQ8RzuOZQR4zc3p03 Q4copac1PMujG6/6L9zKB7aar/SRm2GMiGXT5t+nSyY7FyrPcjLoxWyMpSpMuc3DXoXM DEvAXT1kzp2BzPiEmCfv10pnGd+oPBvRk2VExRtj4cxHZvpM4Zate/YbrgMZ5SXG3pRj mQRLDaT/O3srWRwdfWoyENQfMQa9Idp6WC371XhNDaLZVCG4NNHBXleUPAeJVbhMJk0Q yEsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSlQKxxO9DC1IyLaz0bqI+D0kNQ8fPRN0RvixnD/g+V9KtW2VBI1ZaZ764MBl7nz3ulkWVJSAJyaiQ50Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.212.85 with SMTP id l82mr5273224wmg.11.1452986545493; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:22:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> References: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:22:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fortran compiler From: Adam Vande More To: john.haraden@yahoo.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:22:27 -0000 On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:15 PM, john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > When will the base system ship with a fortran compiler? Almost certainly never. > Why not resurrect the old f77? > Why don't you do it and not burden base with your niche desires? -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 23:28:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA197A857DC for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x234.google.com (mail-ob0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E3991DE7 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ob0-x234.google.com with SMTP id py5so169517827obc.2 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:28:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9R8Vs4gDKGj0jzLZKcOkvxOL6rXWnC3VoN0QVDqtA4M=; b=y871W5lDiZ9V7KkQvEeuw4YakvE6Wt/Kff++QHaNoKRTK4y7jJjozUYu50AmfA+hkY 8cz8oqksn4yNdNC3B63f7VYuZjeZ2JUDUnsbDybdY6yp9Cb/yqyoL3Oiw+FRJTVC99xC 5MhWxk0VRL06IDZJ6u1zPBziG0TxcCU/ZdlTKmFoD71gqeWRxt3BI49b1T4+kOO6hzrp wXgoYD5bIVesZxpP7F9RIS8fE1tOKYmzc2nhDFf1MYe4umo/GW09CR1j57qNmrENLV0C VGX3WFtFr0WtcuNRTEG2TFDEYaWssylcy3t1QT31uGRykL4cbLqNh1D+6ej9zCpVHqz/ gXNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9R8Vs4gDKGj0jzLZKcOkvxOL6rXWnC3VoN0QVDqtA4M=; b=MCWXTE1ngZkIRDhtus9nUTYTGwj+vpXPtkugdosMicKk8rJTRGC3aotuQxuIQ1aCai LAHky7IVhbhSRGMrkuNeyXLu+lFGHImm+Vepzd6bKQ5H9JLh/isZykuEIsIqcPeLMaG0 qiq10iUmpd7MwOx0Wr66KRh71UncCG1i/myj2oCA1/HKdV64M+piXmP2Ldtz/GtKCWH2 sNaLtYm1WyOC85kf3MAfMc9X/0jAVG1tUUdVGFktgZuCAgmT4k3teAoaKYrFMMyxL8cY fuqMPdwpxaxbE92bkVSnA78hVEOzU9fhwlBrjC+GdcK6LJTYcLjQpdfM5342oErPtSUg qeVg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnA72uOGOvYuMyZFBEBQ6FHi5C8Fq0Y43RWQBTx31VBcIRIYaLXriCUbHotHvF4KE8/Stkr/zvvvY5y3fb3bfv0efvvRg== X-Received: by 10.182.115.196 with SMTP id jq4mr13806965obb.48.1452986880801; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 133sm9658847oid.5.2016.01.16.15.27.58 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:27:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <569AD1F6.7010008@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:27:50 -0700 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fortran compiler References: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:28:01 -0000 On 01/16/2016 04:22 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:15 PM, john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> When will the base system ship with a fortran compiler? > > Almost certainly never. > > >> Why not resurrect the old f77? >> > Why don't you do it and not burden base with your niche desires? > What a nasty NASTY response to a very very valid request. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 16 23:40:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38024A85D2C for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C71541447 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id b14so73807182wmb.1 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:40:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0yw5vAKuvfe0CW8w/6zCFNFWNIfokzDnN0Pffo/Z5JQ=; b=IobJcYlrlPw2da47P9kdaQU4fkNGF0Q21yZ3kzLophfMOcv8+8RDkunTmq1fYOb5Tz 6g6XwlPLIlcknu/ZyfakBzYA/TKf0ghf3lPd0W7DdtpD216yd574BnscRbMYDnzWUCfV UwgvomtXQSDHo1Juj8829v2GwbUIaBATcxdJLxoEXxw3M6XCawHOe20sF6qDr1pZthxP p/ewJiK6sAmvxxjkj099fUfN/txiQUilSxtvsJLGMev/XdGrMNhNUYAqhwngHD32lW8B 7wgOkIOUy8mSggzTVeucg8UPns9kYblBiW4PiNmA5aUJsVfmnbAu4D3ou8381WH4r/bF oxjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0yw5vAKuvfe0CW8w/6zCFNFWNIfokzDnN0Pffo/Z5JQ=; b=NFNpJWkg0+wQlBvdL8z/hzvzVLZAXvTgalYj3RpSBRrM1/bpJ9qWztMHhZp0CTKZop mDdvtxLBQ/oA40aRdXWLMCsh/MlO/SSRkhXzqQLQCl1QIbxCdXFMXQMpmMHLkM88wHNu H42+Dcn1HC9/jCmCkjfHgCXfDQv2Oss/YVFFo3sRFYxOv43HU3x4/N7bmv0UAOrnbv4C uqTAU4HgqK4rlyXhEjL2/zS6pxSKpmq051gPy6BCM7jHDq1LdLiRhkkXwHdEP4HzwIGI LUoj51ePJ0N4PyQ5+5mcgnqhJymshR1/jK5s6pabKSHNH6a17Mno6KZ5VcDJF8/95EMk IW5A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm985/wS+zK9Uo776vCtmv36WM7/TbTuRZ54g3daPDs4mmsgtZ9t7Di1b0O1HOcEQujypSokmLbiXm3oqwA26PpzOqrkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.9.169 with SMTP id a9mr16584418wjb.60.1452987645099; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:40:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <569AD1F6.7010008@gmail.com> References: <5426FC3A-A8F7-4B24-9CAA-1A18C176A4F1@yahoo.com> <569AD1F6.7010008@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:40:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fortran compiler From: Adam Vande More To: jd1008 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:40:47 -0000 On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 5:27 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > What a nasty NASTY response to a very very valid request. 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qs1sm16914621wjc.2.2016.01.16.15.46.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:46:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:46:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:46:52 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u0GNkrOI044712; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:46:53 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u0GNkqOt044711; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:46:52 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201601162346.u0GNkqOt044711@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jd1008@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fortran compiler Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <569AD1F6.7010008@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:46:58 -0000 >>> When will the base system ship with a fortran compiler? >> >> Almost certainly never. >> >> >>> Why not resurrect the old f77? >>> >> Why don't you do it and not burden base with your niche desires? >> >What a nasty NASTY response to a very very valid request. Calm down. What is and isn't in the base is decided, to a degree, by the majority of users, partly by the base developers/committers and partly by the core. Therefore what is in the base os changes with time. I think the prevailing opinion lately has been to make the base as small as possible, for many reasons, and to make ports/packages as easy as possible to install. As a Fortran user, I agree with this approach. Regarding f77 - I cannot see a single reason why f77 would be preferable to gfortran. If you have any problems using Fortran on FreeBSD, mail freebsd-fortran@. Anton