From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 06:28:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0330ADF82A for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 06:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451A21520 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 06:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-182-127.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.182.127]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 27 Mar 2016 16:52:55 +1030 Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server To: gyliamos@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <56F77C30.5090808@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:52:40 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 06:28:06 -0000 On 27/03/2016 02:38, Will Parsons wrote: > Shane Ambler wrote: >> On 26/03/2016 04:22, Will Parsons wrote: >>> I purposely held off on upgrading the to new X server for over a year >>> now for fear of breakage, but yesterday I upgaded to the latest Xorg >>> server along with the associated video and input drivers and am left >>> with a black screen upon starting the X server. >> >> Why did you expect it to break? do you need an older nvidia driver that >> is not supported in xorg 1.14+ > > A general fear that a major change would be dangerous, which was > apparently well-justified, since when i actually did attempt to > 'upgrade' I am left will an unusable system. > Have you tried starting X without your old config? looked at the xorg log to see what is wrong? I;m pretty sure I had to make changes to my xorg.conf when updating. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 14:31:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB795ADF5F1 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangteng331@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22d.google.com (mail-io0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A64511E9E for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangteng331@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id c63so156956971iof.0 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ovPFYFKRTcwEpGMnFeD1nUvXMMXfYyCUQPhtwL2o56Y=; b=aR/f1yXSgJtxRD71wXlA0i3A1KWvYWk8CNr17jtsE87ls+L2dvmbTNx4oF4fsInCGV stGL6gcclaoZpNlo5F+TMCBbRPn27hjM6XixXGwZaLAw1HLYDFsZwYARRdJXxqQYyCl7 Rqv/kiBj5qqo8SjashaqIzK8zq9zt0hhA6iSTf0vPVp4j0KMenPpR1bwAq5R5Bu/Z40m 4uH5Gqxssi1EiInB9cKUdbTRMbtv+QO9MQTJhQFP17zP7SysZntB5Jct3gU0lt4OcNSi zgGGSDEQzhNrsP/9j7gTsmbrz1Xg8Q7yRry37MbrzCN7DMM5PCnEVuvS2pkinyTjwqle Yrpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ovPFYFKRTcwEpGMnFeD1nUvXMMXfYyCUQPhtwL2o56Y=; b=Yjb8j1kpQi42OWFYx3zjXPLqoLamQ0DxYhbZu1fS4lz55dIvFS29AT/PBgbgHT7fTf H3i1wDlkJlmyfjHqG4nhpXPYkIBZzDQr/nmwMMIg+R+nI3OgXupo3ygD6HLgrkcLXeeR zj7nzInw95ago0sAa4cKlZCr/BfowaLH1gZHw1UVxDOAMVL5Ia8CTs4En5M/kyq78a7i r/L56jxRv/SKQ5wFWHlM+Bro2Wya4jGJuu/uUgmv4jJHbxMcGsr/9F72/fSzU7j1sAic p++avNTm34qlIvqOpzeUfBepwLSii2kzD37QBe5H47jQIVpVB4FbiX11UKkrAGXgxxR3 p1DA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIqdOKe35mVrk0pahZDH/S29jn9nsE6tfUXhQgVS/MaALxwP0jiQJoBfdjiVGR6X1ynoSLVvgR9QcGN+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.3.152 with SMTP id e24mr24743911ioi.106.1459089086501; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 07:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.149 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 07:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.149 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 07:31:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:31:26 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: bootable freebsd slice's limit From: Teng Zhang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:31:28 -0000 In man fdisk(8), it refers to "Note that bootable FreeBSD slices (the ``*/*'' file system) must lie completely within the first 1024 cylinders; if this is not true, booting may fail." my confusion is whether this limit is aimed at just i386 platform or all platforms that freebsd supports. Could you please tell me the actual condition ? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 15:07:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C016ADFEC4 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C63B41EFF for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id l68so15282138wml.3 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:07:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sKqU6lC2unU/e2svCZ9BLFlJj8Wax4afq3NHeUFyzGU=; b=ad2LHLogkSP1LM7T4UcI1XRpE80k+fsp32oEWr7+ioN01A/mFTRFPAJ1TAYDdwgRVA CjFHne2TUM1GUGDuHpO39ZXRxbilcRoc2LMW9Q6E1Qsqb4E/J3SIGvjp6hyGPIYLsGjr Ui90ZyJdI4Nw0DYIvuBAQ9nzF8iPEXZ2zaAoHxZl9tjtMTlqGr1sXTxAP46XvmL84pVk 7t0t9SANyqa0WaLthN7kvG9DF1f0D1TSNkVgXmvV2WJyuyFXNtsw2lD+7eGHCWpPrl6W voGH8FjzRDL3NzVg1ly0DSX77jsdLWn2USokt1vhvd+78JqgP0HVT7Xvhak+5GKe7Ztv GZdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sKqU6lC2unU/e2svCZ9BLFlJj8Wax4afq3NHeUFyzGU=; b=mHjQls6RS8MLpKGuKzAwyt6TFfgUTJA0WuvZhchM6UNuK8DNYIw0b4i2zTPGba4B2f gLiajdR+SacIoUBc8UHADG3yuZG9qR/oS+wMwisj/ZStmUgp36B8cTYdyvsu9+xlFUMM mR0OXyiSXxRMT4vPSdct+y0FOnK3CNI4K5UjdGu32fZD0clqCnFbLMzPBClGf78fXld2 NPqq31QBmb2m2KnPn967PGd0kmT4EFCDTsgZBHfbPyH2Ek+IIZplMQGpJbS+nwG+LUhb 6HpG9GzArn/lwI2nwV7wSgas7TMRHUW3DJYKvGzzMf3C4xQHRHyeWtM5CmdcQ/j1hKcO j4jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIe8hyhJjqdHJ1K3rMjFCYqzvV2K4nNVE64SqYdEn+eLYJRk5RLflihmsusmcaFEA== X-Received: by 10.194.143.82 with SMTP id sc18mr23782573wjb.14.1459091239342; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.222.25.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 188sm6179441wmk.6.2016.03.27.08.07.18 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:07:15 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable freebsd slice's limit Message-ID: <20160327160715.01140c55@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:07:22 -0000 On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:31:26 +0800 Teng Zhang wrote: > In man fdisk(8), it refers to > "Note that bootable FreeBSD slices (the ``*/*'' file system) must lie > completely within the first 1024 cylinders; if this is not true, > booting may fail." > my confusion is whether this limit is aimed at just i386 > platform or all platforms that freebsd supports. Could you please > tell me the actual condition ? It's nothing to do with the OS, it was a BIOS limitation from a long time ago - well over 10 years. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 15:18:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1315ADF183 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com (mail-io0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9896A146B for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id e3so41423761ioa.1 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:18:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=X7b6Lm2Pi/V5ciYDhoD/gfsgmkFa1/4aC5Hbx7Lgz7k=; b=gOC4S/iBbS7kM1E0OYSIWnq36lMB+wIu1UQ8chiYtlaJusmKxo/FNd2oVq52VBt+SK U+iYgDfKmaH05uYJfDM0yazKpjBz2m8K5I70qvXgEuRGGo19ZStKr79SJ3Cxe8OK+VzA 8kOkRjIfQ+Qdmkg7Cikvu59FHQ4XhHVDL3UKsVZkn+EEl8eGAnGaYGK6flF7tLhd4gYl eDxgTFkvetD5jrqcJ9C0ta86AFm2PZajc6kmS3LJ+SP82oNRzIjUl3EXgAedgtT39IGj 0UYPGa404yLNlS725aTbISkWfsSp8MHgAjbUI88ZnVIv13YE1DitwTu3XvffzJln0uZA Fyfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJtlhWkD7yLD140P53VxIHiL53Sluo05BGnV3GnobVK1qXNlZnbt8HLDA7v14q1vA== X-Received: by 10.107.157.70 with SMTP id g67mr20388892ioe.38.1459091539991; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-133-17.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.133.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id me7sm2385511igb.12.2016.03.27.08.12.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:12:18 -0700 (PDT) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Teng Zhang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable freebsd slice's limit In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: <86h9fsnee6.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:18:53 -0000 Teng Zhang writes: > In man fdisk(8), it refers to > "Note that bootable FreeBSD slices (the ``*/*'' file system) must lie > completely within the first 1024 cylinders; if this is not true, booting > may fail." > my confusion is whether this limit is aimed at just i386 platform > or all platforms that freebsd supports. Could you please tell me the actual > condition ? Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the limitation is related to machine architecture. Rather, it has to do with how the legacy bootloader handles older disks with a 512k sector size and an MBR partition table. I would guess that you are asking out of concern for on-disk filesystem alignment? Is there any particular reason you cannot use GPT via gpart(8), rather than MBR via fdisk(8)? -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 16:07:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDC8ADFDA1 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@csie.io) Received: from mail-lf0-x241.google.com (mail-lf0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 386A11C57 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@csie.io) Received: by mail-lf0-x241.google.com with SMTP id i75so9318042lfb.1 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:07:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=csie-io.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ud7yyGCzXjJGXryMArgHBrBJVWarRBiMmXIE4ihEVgw=; b=xCMRRVeNZ2RLaeHLbdtYayDdOFgowV3Ew1zC3S/4H5luidyrM8bZO4AprRhnUeM/9a ZxefeUg9GDuqP56huHQkF8IapVcocVkjwRfsSlGwFaw1pq9ne6T6Gh/VRYke+WCGxXIJ WNmYsehuNgAJZso8ZGBPTUWZeQ47z4izdqvQzsl/dTCmTfliW+3raRZbeFLuU6mKfYyM NeRqNRZcndZ9Oh7OCwU+yRurP3Vh5KLU6vvX9ft9eZ8BaqpPC59Pyl0h11C/YTJeYuOK KYJuFypgNAX/Vdnn4eypCx1fx1oESop8FZ7xnuPUH/lk7P+uDs6dAN5RAwiheGKZKh0o mEOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ud7yyGCzXjJGXryMArgHBrBJVWarRBiMmXIE4ihEVgw=; b=XTucirXO6xTu28BY+TMhOwWaboeQ7mNVHEftjNz9KZfYVnn6eOA32esxxc/OsRXPLj zmnalsTqfkbs7q7gJUwEdMMxx8h8pMbEV3bQmCFAlof7Pi9Vpttl3ihLOwNmggr5aVv/ H6oJaszrq130/4Hm2beHP9NT2btmygn3nQXG0p1rLTcPRI6CPyBvsq6D7VsUulk+tWLx CPDQIjc3Yg3tn8l9TUOBS/lyHU4ZWCiPIq46Td0Q5RVvX1FvCm33w0mfzpR8EIJRzil2 vQ/oOiD87ZvfbLrMRUeK/NUYvAxMF+TwByWAbkpQVvHQjbEQYpimpLfUVE55JlSetcb4 Ho6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLEzVjK7jqvb7ceUnV5NkYDfVcVhhxnM/Qg5wJU0KDdacAGtHsL3ZbtxLDkMqc4emOKJdugjS0jHvs+yQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.159.68 with SMTP id i65mr8715307lfe.94.1459094849637; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.212.12 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 00:07:29 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: ZFS on a NetApp powered VMWare cluster From: =?UTF-8?B?5by15pWs5piK?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:07:31 -0000 Hi list: We have about eight freebsd workstations on vmware vsphere 6 cluster whose storage is based on NFS provided by NetApp. We have been using ZFS on our workstations because we wanted to take advantage of the ZFS boot environment; however, recently we are told not to do so because using ZFS would impose a huge performance impact on our workstations. Is that true? Or is there any suggestions on tuning the ZFS on those workstations? Thanks! Frank Chang From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 19:18:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF21ADF587 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22d.google.com (mail-io0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC65E1B7E for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 124so156942350iov.3 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=KHhyG6weBstf/6xPTkuB2hYU5KoVoDi3IiA13iVGLx0=; b=yrdBox/zYnxTxQnhLK0CfoWs3cwPWDTVMbVOUXdnES0ZbR5la6MCFy2zJpC9HyegZ1 5y2W3KqDo1N31GbWJ1q5R8neOpbykS8r9ovLpTrtfq+KRMuDDPmHeKRHPtQFuVLhixD1 M0a8ASdJsVKXI4DnlbNb5DhUlMUObR09e97vFRaFkYsS+kTmu3SJwgcWulXz0dCb3rTt uQcfHQqVNMsr7HpFOOVVbxT6gGkXu0aV2c74FbPD2NzNlRNt5C/TtQtkbKvy0I98lC2c HH3c5nvKDwUsauHkK+HI/O9hpURK41Kl/7t91M6/evym5vYbIZfpfDIHW11IHGu40ZUQ zJ0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=KHhyG6weBstf/6xPTkuB2hYU5KoVoDi3IiA13iVGLx0=; b=RxA4Ak1Hv5pdEmFFi+0LVf6gwd+iB1eJzH0RE5t7vj3a483/YwKY5Rtnjn5eM/sfBA ZYJEs9eNl2Xys28XNT6CcBKrOg9ZdhJSdzP/6m1IyXBDv3jC1/MNTPfR3ipd3iSPhGaX Mtr+x4m3c06Y8GiLSNZC8VNNvdT9Tv8O2H3GMVgiXLFCLq+nJ4WmhPBdlyjKSTXrx/tR pbyKQbayRe3l0sgSagsAy7BDlVSdTpNCWw5l3WSeaB0ThPmFM/oxxnBXoV8YXh15fN+V 4bpE/mj/OnjYk8Em6dNdwDmmuI3oP8kyoRAvwjn3W2qrTATLmXX8HczKwPYOf5KVcYnO UKyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLzXmOxV/f+w+Ktil48M1z/sK5fwaULd820Qt2sHmCstD/SQrL6DCIXWR+NfxouZo5/qOJ/BTmCT1mfVw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.19.42 with SMTP id b42mr2353597ioj.75.1459106281413; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.14.19 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:18:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Atheros AR5BXB112 AR9380 From: Adrian Chadd To: Carmel Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:18:02 -0000 hiya, it works great on -HEAD. :-P (I have a bag of AR5BXB112's, I used them when writing the AR9380 and later driver support a few years ago.) -a On 24 March 2016 at 06:04, Carmel wrote: > I was wondering if the "ath" network driver supports a "Atheros > AR5BXB112 AR9380 PCI-E 1X PCI-E Wireless Desktop WiFi WLAN Card 450M > Dual-band (2.4/5 GHz)" card. According to the man page, it supports the > AR9300 programming API's, so I would assume that included the AR9380, > but I wanted to make sure before I install the card. > > -- > Carmel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 27 20:20:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D33EADF216 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C4A915D5 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:20:48 -0700 From: David Christensen Subject: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:20:35 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:20:58 -0000 freebsd-questions: I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualization. Hardware features I'm looking for: 1. Intel Second-Generation Core processor with Intel graphics (newer generation and/or 4 cores preferred; optional Hyper-Threading and/or Xeon). 2. 16+ GB RAM (ECC and/or 32 GB preferred). 3. 2.5" SATA III SSD (two preferred). 4. DVD-RW optical drive (BD-RW preferred). 5. Gigabit Ethernet. 6. 802.11 b/g/n WiFi (802.11 ac preferred) 7. 1920x1080 screen (higher resolution and/or multi-touch optional). 8. USB 3.0 ports (two or more preferred). 9. Additional USB 2.0 ports (optional). 10. Touch pad. 11. Lighted keyboard (optional). 12. Stereo headphone and mono headphone jack(s). 13. SD card port (optional). 14. Bluetooth (optional). Any recommendations of what to get? Any warnings of what to avoid? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 05:01:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9272AE0B9E for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmvince1@asu.edu) Received: from mail-qk0-x242.google.com (mail-qk0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81188108F for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmvince1@asu.edu) Received: by mail-qk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id u128so11632934qkh.1 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=asu-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=I4LmGVKN87tnqVn9iPyR0YSsykGGufREM5P7UWBa3xM=; b=LFbD6ZVDNmPlspEjYpVIK3Mo9bPcgTmsOvluAkE8eRJGn/U3MvwftgcUOClK51FAPT PZCxyg44qfufVxlhj2mzEUU393CnDNDkHn0OK1EMHmyZq/Ut+F47bQxGbugn2342Sk1b S31DQVpZdrX56+2afnACB8xCTXZWt+fD8967hLS/RYsSRY3usxu9BwIdQ6OVeMWutSzw jeWJIulvjdm++1kDhdEstU7tgQBI8GgMxaRnRoUiAH9NxS14zpiydidE/Urteu67zkjE 9y+ATnNfH4pTe72qPV5Sjslk+V/BkUpZJT4QWZIslS95Uliddq1WvzOE2MFTU3CeZW29 ejww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=I4LmGVKN87tnqVn9iPyR0YSsykGGufREM5P7UWBa3xM=; b=ff4xMH6FhSJmwL7B3RK4D+52XYJvytWe0DqLLOHcoz5IA6WGl3QBP/Eqms51S5bp6c W07RMicOJ7vVlIz4Qh3Is0PtyZ+fMaYPPux3YD7drdUU51mMFc+Xbp9DsgTAPVJ/fWyO 1PQc2UKeopHIvy98FXTYcRBg1fE4tZ3EUho364ea+MYpdQwj6mMFh8qjTJukN6I4HN5W Lf/zu/lvy2E7y+qOGHnMWkYAtw2T/hNemzjDzM7sH/4Y388AgocUcJKfu1IE+RVze3gO uPdpxZHbeY593mpX3kST0sAOhPBSGb90oFhW+EIf5YdNPcOkzvDMfaZT8ofZaB6kIU+Q Pgaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI5uozTt/wEB159fVwClkzX6FpDAETCn59MG10DOFrdrwtMq+keNpn/C0pBwZyqrOKPeFshAziVguobvvuE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.95.9 with SMTP id t9mr12071371ywb.94.1459141297335; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.31.193 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:01:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> References: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:01:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: Brandon Vincent To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:01:38 -0000 On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM, David Christensen wrote: > Any recommendations of what to get? You're pretty much limited to a Dell Precision Mobile Workstation 7000 with your requirements. Expect to pay $2,000+ USD new. Brandon Vincent From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 05:54:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E391ADF581 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@allunix.ru) Received: from ns1.allunix.ru (mail.allunix.ru [85.118.230.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CAFE1730 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@allunix.ru) Received: from gamer ([10.10.52.20]) by ns1.allunix.ru (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u2S5ngvG016007; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:49:42 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from admin@allunix.ru) X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 11.0.4.01150, engine: 11.0.1.10200, virus records: 6986796, updated: 28.03.2016] Subject: Re: ZFS on a NetApp powered VMWare cluster To: =?UTF-8?B?5by15pWs5piK?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Admin Message-ID: <56F8C6E0.4070605@allunix.ru> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:53:36 +0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:54:30 -0000 There kinda is no profit in using ZFS this way. It's good when you use local disks and give those disks fully to ZFS, this way you really don't have any performance impact except considerable amount of RAM going to ZFS needs. But other then that, no, FreeBSD from, say, 9.0-RELEASE works perfectly with ZFS. If you keep NAS on ZFS shared by ZFS - that also is a good idea, but if you use ZFS on virtual disks of VMWare then I'd say that's a waste. 27.03.2016 22:07, 張敬昊 пишет: > Hi list: > > We have about eight freebsd workstations on vmware vsphere 6 cluster whose > storage is based on NFS provided by NetApp. > > We have been using ZFS on our workstations because we wanted to take > advantage of the ZFS boot environment; however, recently we are told not to > do so because using ZFS would impose a huge performance impact on our > workstations. Is that true? Or is there any suggestions on tuning the ZFS > on those workstations? > > Thanks! > > Frank Chang > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 10:24:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333D2AE0BE8 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from relay16.nicmail.ru (relay16.nicmail.ru [195.208.5.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCFBF18AB for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from [109.70.25.226] (port=43964 helo=fujitsu) by f17.mail.nic.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1akUAM-000KrH-4O; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:12:58 +0300 Received: from [93.174.131.138] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO fujitsu) by proxy04.mail.nic.ru (Exim 5.55) with id 1akUAM-00067V-8T; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:12:58 +0300 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:12:32 +0300 From: Aleksander Alekseev To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? Message-ID: <20160328131232.010ae86b@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> References: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:24:22 -0000 Hello, David Take a look on Fujitsu laptops, e.g. E733 (there are also many other models like this one). These concrete model seems to satisfy your requirements. Currently I'm running Ubuntu on it. But I don't see a reason why there should be any problem with FreeBSD since hardware seems to be compatible. Not sure regarding Wi-Fi though, but there are cheap and very small USB adapters like TP-LINK TL-WN725N and Edimax EW-7811Un that could solve this issue, see this list: https://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/support.html Anyway you can usually check a laptop before paying for it. Also consider Apple laptops. Please note that you should use CURRENT branch use Intel GPUs at maximum especially OpenGL capabilities. There is also sometimes tricky to boot FreeBSD installer on todays laptops because of features like Fast Startup and Secure Boot. Here are some hints that can help you with that: https://goo.gl/7HAaDE Also I would like to recommend these articles: * https://unrelenting.technology/articles/freebsd-on-the-thinkpad-x240 * http://eax.me/freebsd-on-desktop-v2/ (use Google Translate) -- Best regards, Aleksander Alekseev http://eax.me/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 15:12:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F69FAE05A1 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bgomez@switchways.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFDB1318 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bgomez@switchways.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1F48BAE05A0; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE30AE059F for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bgomez@switchways.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com (mail-pa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF1761317 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bgomez@switchways.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id td3so99938767pab.2 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=switchways-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=to:subject:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dqHWrueUr02BPVtWCKDsTFyjOnSwGRhn54YGiZyk/Dw=; b=QTglE5UA0sgQsMKfQBrUvJIAznAyFFKLcQfnaY/JyV07HCAH/phLB00fIi7X+AITfS MHU2uqELNHVcfpvVz9B7dy4e/seOoqFUx2dG6sAruE0wK8T/Z1YdflOT+AvYpnDaGatH aFFxu05X3HHoHCIomxIMIWZJxDkIZPPhZGtz/tsu7B1NqLlwll9EjuO0EXva7kqKzi2o EsL5lsNM9le50BWSxiSuAz9HIJOS/Cz0aPsLgITJfoFLBs8E95HoRASHtJm0H73+1h6K WvXpkFsJjOe/xLc5LbMPiWL4jUKA1ohGNxpnGpIeTBP99lJ5+wLu/uQSQUzE4IDneb7a RUUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:subject:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dqHWrueUr02BPVtWCKDsTFyjOnSwGRhn54YGiZyk/Dw=; b=AcJ5WONrgJXFMuZdMEzCB0FMd6f0huO/vuPvGfXdaLCht9g7hrgLbyyWDss7xgIV+1 9t37i7GauB17Ov05VnL/OlgCXWq4Yprn3Z2CrgEGIjrFPCCDwXB+FfdWZKMNmZVbY6u6 enapf2zeijFS4Ws6TpP/A4UkM1Of2d/igR/wMZJijPFjQZNw8RlM8J9CANzzuKLQOa5a LIiw9BKnDyVmIVtm9SyINlTjQ2bjR8nIUCGXQBegYSGom/aVdxJQEkUtiCsmO8xSLyzZ pOV3HKCuwGfYqd6RB9vHOw4JGeX8hcnKqfeneGdRVA4EJ61prnObKkff97ZLsQcJ2Rmy jkVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLCof8mqLep1dl5VxfgLNy/q5iawfV965FXaaZDQMfdvqFbGCoia4PgvLtnKsD27w== X-Received: by 10.66.148.232 with SMTP id tv8mr43401193pab.21.1459177956384; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([103.6.157.159]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r5sm36549080pap.7.2016.03.28.08.12.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:12:35 -0700 (PDT) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fishing Enthusiasts List From: Brian Gomez Message-ID: <56F948D7.90900@switchways.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:08:07 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 160328-0, 03/28/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:12:37 -0000 Hi, I'm Brian. Would you be interested in acquiring an email list of "Fishing Enthusiasts List" from USA? We also have data for Scuba Divers List, Cruise Travelers, Boat Owners, Apparel Buyers, travelers, Luxury Brand Buyers, Gift buyers and many more. Each record in the list contains Contact Name (First, Middle and Last Name), Mailing Address, List type and Opt-in email address. All the contacts are opt-in verified, 100% permission based and can be used for unlimited multi-channel marketing. Please let me know your thoughts towards procuring the Fishing Enthusiasts List. Best Regards, Brian Gomez Research Analyst We respect your privacy, if you do not wish to receive any further emails from our end, please reply with a subject “Leave Out”. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 17:57:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF4BAE183F for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com (mail-vk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DFA1159A for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id k1so165412134vkb.0 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=olcBA3DEEtGjzPUBuMeiYAUvjRchqtrddEL1hP5a+1g=; b=ekXqoD4iKq7KMAcxZj6hMasC9O5P7Q4e0ofEvK5KufazWgNjXg22J65Reva+Uo/MP2 Bla3ijoDHaWkOHLZj7U8uNzI8jD5ZWLXCHnVxG9mXCiYzhYOfT8WY7lbS55ds0ge7Wpn kGKq72q0AJK9ybJuPaEi+x3Oa8zQJUvFr/hewbDihEGL6CYuL4lVko41cKlY6BwI/qfd 2lboLY6skuMpLb2FZQNWKx9beOWJJtbE0GqSzcdwhKxzXFOLNMwaIVmLMrU9eP9D98dZ +o8zphqB1UiIE7zwnkY3BrnbIJDWyLfX/5LH0e7ufjPdfviukZmJDMSIngbnkkK8duCI +P7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=olcBA3DEEtGjzPUBuMeiYAUvjRchqtrddEL1hP5a+1g=; b=QKjibinFIKfeqrg4v6lP+nG3t8LVw4gjOHFWQn8lqZEBlwkGr92m0nVkf0WdviRkvN kX/jNCs29q3af1YG4zYqDT07nslgMsqHNPzCD86bMiRElbuK/4pJ5lZqGLnqVacQORr8 ypnDYOdpKJ6/rEcZQD1PN+FOOwY8WOe1kyE1TWSwbbPS0mCk2cOdco7ogVVGJH5RWm+G BZE/TE8uEPcMk++AmuDPVFSFx6SQBaeOaC8hNR5Qju5L6xShVUbpHeEyhXiOF4Iuyvwu 6pynb0JeiXmGuyvSDUV8L+prJUs0eoJvfwrERcRVSzmG+YFFSgPFncxITspRt/eZweLX xywA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIJ0IauMFtmMmaMxdPTzZAX69iX6djaQW55xnQ+v7wb2ZNmP/+JvO/CNP28IOQM55CAnsh7rLFs/+TDEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.176.0.175 with SMTP id 44mr3399936uaj.6.1459187820179; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.31.174.132 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:57:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: how to troubleshoot services startup on reboot From: Sergei G To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:57:01 -0000 I have service startup failure probably due to DNS resolution. I think that local unbind is not available during some services startup. For example, nginx reports failure to resolve network names and fails to start. However, there is little I can obtain about service startup order from logs, because there is no entry like "starting local unbind" in /var/log/messages. Is there a way to increase verbosity? Other ways to help with troubleshooting? Through google I found that someone else had the same issue on FreeBSD with the same complication of little log level feedback. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 18:55:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316FDAE0BA9 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com (mail-vk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF62F107C for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id e185so167110820vkb.1 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:55:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=yzTgDQYU2tv59aDsE8lJyvfHaxSridPB17g/8NMIX2I=; b=UOlJ9V8eBlHRKSF8jVbuBnL+PCfCzGgrWAN4ULkSEHb/KOQTsqkGzAFPtiwDH/+QcR HtneoOlLnnwy3xgxntzrYSeH1d/d4ni61N0sKmdAu/iBENuKXKvqXAA8FxX3DsW1uPbX ppm8LiDuA+DvBg8nrnzTy77Rtc8SPeAsEm5i382uDeWLyQ28N/MT34EcAdD58l10SwjO 4BWiXzMXISr6Wi6KJvKrHFk0o9xoJdWOqD/n9wyBFAN6NNURNErmALt6mv0Ty9SwbXRG Fa075rq4Qu18KOKbolxXZJRU8rBD8Q3WidJlLlq9UOkjRZ4ezDjCbAyg59CxeJ9bk4YR NKpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=yzTgDQYU2tv59aDsE8lJyvfHaxSridPB17g/8NMIX2I=; b=Y+MeYiJxjIVKWtOYQO9lHdxlUFan69xoTdVr04LVtWM9gt1R1G2J/TeX8AApRyzUtr HU/z024D/Ladl7u8NY/bTJIFa4bJrYjQxGlUh1qokuc4fiRh/jQursZ4Tfh383rFjfnF 9VL1HMS6uavCEWWFBYpmK3NVj39YkWU7yk4Z9uak0Yr2xI50MOWCDcKXKQ09yjYJkCbj xaLMLygCjsZH9u9rf7eLZtCD/voCg4W/cG95AgnSIUOYKvsrMmG9Ez3gOWxkK7zz48d0 UjwF7/KENQYLj04bLNsYSHyZVvvqYasW+5YjKb8F5sFpG9PsjHCb8NyQJUMaUdiLY/ZM tR8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJHa7Yv5JHUjy321ZGaACaPi8L/ilo1wxPxJ+pC4sGIBbt5GevcZMITs/plxYOHnwoOkCTcNlc8eI19pA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.159.35.87 with SMTP id 81mr16044074uae.10.1459191311042; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.31.174.132 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160328180531.GA76011@neutralgood.org> References: <20160328180531.GA76011@neutralgood.org> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:55:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to troubleshoot services startup on reboot From: Sergei G To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:55:12 -0000 I know about the service -e command. However, that's of little help when it comes to service startup order. I've had this problem in the past with FreeBSD Hyper-V guest, because it was taking too long to obtain IP from DHCP. I even had to set a setting to make it wait to obtain IP prior to proceeding with the rest of boot. On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:57:00AM -0700, Sergei G wrote: > > I have service startup failure probably due to DNS resolution. I think > > that local unbind is not available during some services startup. For > > example, nginx reports failure to resolve network names and fails to > start. > > > > However, there is little I can obtain about service startup order from > > logs, because there is no entry like "starting local unbind" in > > /var/log/messages. > > Use the 'service' command. Try 'service -e', but I'm not 100% sure if it > will print all enabled services. But 'service -r' will show you everything > including the stuff that is turned off. > -- > Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ > > "It sounded pretty good, but it's hard to tell how it will work out > in practice." -- Dennis Ritchie, ~1977, "Summary of a DEC 32-bit machine" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 20:06:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90DDAE1E1D for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from relay16.nicmail.ru (relay16.nicmail.ru [195.208.5.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81E5C1760 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from [109.70.25.214] (port=60554 helo=fujitsu) by f17.mail.nic.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1akdR7-0005l7-3T; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:53 +0300 Received: from [188.123.231.37] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO fujitsu) by proxy01.mail.nic.ru (Exim 5.55) with id 1akdR6-0006aP-SN; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:53 +0300 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:28 +0300 From: Aleksander Alekseev To: Sergei G Cc: "Kevin P. Neal" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to troubleshoot services startup on reboot Message-ID: <20160328230628.55dd505a@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: References: <20160328180531.GA76011@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:07:00 -0000 Hello, Sergei I realize it's a dirty hack but you can add more logging by (temporary) modifying rc.d scripts. -- Best regards, Aleksander Alekseev http://eax.me/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 20:23:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9888AE022C for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90EBC105E for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB22208783C for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FbJNvSIWvY8v for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.21.96.50] (c-24-147-10-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.147.10.153]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E14D520877BA for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 16:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Subject: question re: PF and forwarding Message-ID: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 16:23:06 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:23:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 All, sorry for the multiple emails recently. I'm working to get my server set up here so I can begin doing some dev on BHyve once that is all finalized. I am jailing my services like minidlna samba and unbound and am using PF to forward those. For whatever reason I do not see the ports I specify as open ports, but the individual addresses show them when I connect from within my server. For example, I can telnet 192.168.0.2 445 and that works fine in terms of establishing a connection. I was hoping that someone might see any connection here. Here is my pf.conf. *** if="igb0" addr="10.21.96.128" samba_addr="192.168.0.2" dlna_addr="192.168.0.3" unbound_addr="192.168.0.4" tcp_services="{ssh 53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn microsoft-ds}" udp_services="{53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn microsoft-ds}" set skip on lo set loginterface $if scrub in all #allow jails through nat on $if inet from $samba_addr to any tag jail_samba -> $addr nat on $if inet from $dlna_addr to any tag jail_dlna -> $addr nat on $if inet from $unbound_addr to any tag jail_unbound -> $addr #portforward to jails. #unbound rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr port 53 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr port 53 #samba rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr port 445 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr port 445 #rules pass quick on lo1 pass from igb0:network to any keep state #default policy: deny antispoof quick for { $if lo } block in all #accept TCP ports. pass in on $if proto tcp from any to any port $tcp_services pass in on $if proto udp from any to any port $udp_services *** - -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJW+ZKqAAoJEAdP60+BYxejccoIAJXdhyvB15PtXyBeA7K0e5tR MIP6SVWmdWpv/9AxPAodPvHgTiyJF4A50VsJ9Tcnq8v0gnulIKXytlBHwuJe0goI b8vJT+Sqq6d6ystnhGddh1npgHbwD8LwP5s7AA6LIhFxq84GIprC22+HCi/tTHXF AGX408PNJbNXXwA5F/tzBQH2uFXUA28d6NKkeOjrKkIn5ZwCB57ehmDO/3yNhZHT ONvzK83QbyYU2q+BRYIkqPNzpXIQgPGIULMHj57jymOZqdjDd6llSvmWdKWkhv9d BIRDcd513n+GjYc4fCzwTh110EOhC47IbBTK09l3SCgcvbztTKx0m1vQvNQk73Y= =Lvnv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 20:59:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CAFAE0B9E for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 535F2114B for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1akeFq-0008Br-3U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:59:18 +0200 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:59:18 +0200 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:59:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 209 Message-ID: References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> <56F77C30.5090808@ShaneWare.Biz> Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:59:26 -0000 Shane Ambler wrote: > On 27/03/2016 02:38, Will Parsons wrote: >> Shane Ambler wrote: >>> On 26/03/2016 04:22, Will Parsons wrote: >>>> I purposely held off on upgrading the to new X server for over a year >>>> now for fear of breakage, but yesterday I upgaded to the latest Xorg >>>> server along with the associated video and input drivers and am left >>>> with a black screen upon starting the X server. >>> >>> Why did you expect it to break? do you need an older nvidia driver that >>> is not supported in xorg 1.14+ >> >> A general fear that a major change would be dangerous, which was >> apparently well-justified, since when i actually did attempt to >> 'upgrade' I am left will an unusable system. >> > > Have you tried starting X without your old config? looked at the xorg > log to see what is wrong? I haven't been using one. The Xorg log shows: [ 1028.074] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev [ 1028.074] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 1028.075] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) [ 1028.075] (--) using VT number 9 [ 1029.087] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev [ 1029.087] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 1029.087] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 1029.087] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 1029.087] (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. [ 1029.087] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 1029.087] (II) Unloading fbdevhw [ 1029.087] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) [ 1029.087] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa [ 1029.087] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 1029.087] (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 [ 1029.087] (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 [ 1029.087] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888 [ 1029.087] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor [ 1029.087] (--) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Relaxed fencing enabled [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Wait on SwapBuffers? enabled [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Triple buffering? enabled [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Framebuffer tiled [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Pixmaps tiled [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): 3D buffers tiled [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled [ 1029.088] (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe [ 1029.088] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 has no monitor section [ 1029.107] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section [ 1029.112] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 has no monitor section [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 has no monitor section [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): EDID for output LVDS1 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: LGD Model: 2e3 Serial#: 0 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Year: 2010 Week: 0 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Digital Display Input [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 19 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): No DPMS capabilities specified [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): redX: 0.613 redY: 0.371 greenX: 0.350 greenY: 0.606 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): blueX: 0.152 blueY: 0.099 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Supported detailed timing: [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): clock: 70.0 MHz Image Size: 344 x 194 mm [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): h_active: 1366 h_sync: 1402 h_sync_end 1450 h_blank_end 1492 h_border: 0 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 771 v_sync_end 776 v_blanking: 782 v_border: 0 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): LG Display [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): LP156WH4-TLB1 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): EDID (in hex): [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 00ffffffffffff0030e4e30200000000 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 00140103802213780a09159d5f599b27 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 19505400000001010101010101010101 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 010101010101581b567e50000e302430 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 350058c2100000190000000000000000 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 4720446973706c61790a2020000000fe [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 004c503135365748342d544c42310001 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output LVDS1 [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1366x768"x60.0 70.00 1366 1402 1450 1492 768 771 776 782 -hsync -vsync (46.9 kHz eP) [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz d) [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz d) [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz d) [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz d) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: EPI Model: e781 Serial#: 4909 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Year: 2002 Week: 30 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Sync: Separate [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 27 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): redX: 0.640 redY: 0.347 greenX: 0.302 greenY: 0.587 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): blueX: 0.143 blueY: 0.099 whiteX: 0.321 whiteY: 0.338 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Supported established timings: [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 720x400@70Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@60Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@67Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@72Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@75Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@56Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@60Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@72Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@75Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 832x624@75Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@60Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@70Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@75Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1280x1024@75Hz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Supported detailed timing: [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): clock: 135.0 MHz Image Size: 340 x 270 mm [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1296 h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): v_active: 1024 v_sync: 1025 v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Serial No: T7KB27AG04909 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Ranges: V min: 55 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 135 MHz [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Monitor name: EN-7100s [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): EDID (in hex): [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 00ffffffffffff00160981e72d130000 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1e0c010368221b782af596a3584d9624 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 195256bfef0001010101010101010101 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 010101010101bc34009851002a401090 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1300540e11000018000000ff0054374b [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 42323741473034393039000000fd0037 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 4b1e500d000a202020202020000000fc [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 00454e2d37313030730a2020202000ea [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA1 [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 -hsync -vsync (80.0 kHz eP) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.1 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz e) [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz e) [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz e) [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz e) [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz e) [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x66.7 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz e) [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e) [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz e) [ 1029.145] (II) intel(0): EDID for output HDMI1 [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): EDID for output DP1 [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 connected [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 connected [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 disconnected [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 disconnected [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Using fuzzy aspect match for initial modes [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 using initial mode 1024x768 [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 using initial mode 1024x768 [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Kernel page flipping support detected, enabling [ 1029.154] (==) intel(0): DPI set to (96, 96) [ 1029.154] (II) Loading sub module "fb" [ 1029.154] (II) LoadModule: "fb" [ 1029.154] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so [ 1029.155] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 1029.155] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 1029.155] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 [ 1029.155] (II) Loading sub module "dri2" [ 1029.155] (II) LoadModule: "dri2" [ 1029.155] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in [ 1029.155] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" [ 1029.155] (II) Unloading fbdev [ 1029.155] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" [ 1029.155] (II) Unloading vesa [ 1029.155] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp [ 1029.155] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [ 1029.155] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: i965 [ 1029.155] (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1024x768 stride 4096, tiled [ 1029.156] (II) UXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: [ 1029.156] (II) solid [ 1029.156] (II) copy [ 1029.156] (II) composite (RENDER acceleration) [ 1029.156] (II) put_image [ 1029.156] (II) get_image [ 1029.156] (==) intel(0): Backing store enabled [ 1029.156] (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled [ 1029.156] (II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor [ 1029.156] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. [ 1029.157] (==) intel(0): DPMS enabled [ 1029.157] (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder enabled [ 1029.157] (II) intel(0): Set up textured video [ 1029.157] (II) intel(0): [XvMC] xvmc_vld driver initialized. [ 1029.157] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled [ 1029.470] (--) RandR disabled So there are errors, but I don't know what to do about them. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 28 23:49:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C295AE02DC for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F0141CD8 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2SNnCcl006196 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:49:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u2SNnCkN006193; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:49:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:49:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: gyliamos@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> <56F77C30.5090808@ShaneWare.Biz> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:49:12 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:49:13 -0000 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: > I haven't been using one. The Xorg log shows: > > [ 1028.074] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev > [ 1028.074] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa > [ 1028.075] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > [ 1028.075] (--) using VT number 9 > > [ 1029.087] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev > [ 1029.087] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" > [ 1029.087] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" > [ 1029.087] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so > [ 1029.087] (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. > [ 1029.087] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw" > [ 1029.087] (II) Unloading fbdevhw > [ 1029.087] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) > [ 1029.087] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa > [ 1029.087] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support > [ 1029.087] (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section > "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 > [ 1029.087] (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > [ 1029.087] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888 > [ 1029.087] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor > [ 1029.087] (--) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Relaxed fencing enabled > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Wait on SwapBuffers? enabled > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Triple buffering? enabled > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Framebuffer tiled > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): Pixmaps tiled > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): 3D buffers tiled > [ 1029.088] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled > [ 1029.088] (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe > [ 1029.088] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 has no monitor section > [ 1029.107] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section > [ 1029.112] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 has no monitor section > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 has no monitor section > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): EDID for output LVDS1 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: LGD Model: 2e3 Serial#: 0 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Year: 2010 Week: 0 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Digital Display Input > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 19 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): redX: 0.613 redY: 0.371 greenX: 0.350 greenY: 0.606 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): blueX: 0.152 blueY: 0.099 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Supported detailed timing: > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): clock: 70.0 MHz Image Size: 344 x 194 mm > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): h_active: 1366 h_sync: 1402 h_sync_end 1450 h_blank_end 1492 h_border: 0 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 771 v_sync_end 776 v_blanking: 782 v_border: 0 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): LG Display > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): LP156WH4-TLB1 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): EDID (in hex): > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 00ffffffffffff0030e4e30200000000 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 00140103802213780a09159d5f599b27 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 19505400000001010101010101010101 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 010101010101581b567e50000e302430 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 350058c2100000190000000000000000 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 4720446973706c61790a2020000000fe > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): 004c503135365748342d544c42310001 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (doublescan mode not supported) > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output LVDS1 > [ 1029.121] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1366x768"x60.0 70.00 1366 1402 1450 1492 768 771 776 782 -hsync -vsync (46.9 kHz eP) > [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz d) > [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz d) > [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz d) > [ 1029.122] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz d) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: EPI Model: e781 Serial#: 4909 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Year: 2002 Week: 30 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Sync: Separate > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 27 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): redX: 0.640 redY: 0.347 greenX: 0.302 greenY: 0.587 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): blueX: 0.143 blueY: 0.099 whiteX: 0.321 whiteY: 0.338 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Supported established timings: > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 720x400@70Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@60Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@67Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@72Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 640x480@75Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@56Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@60Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@72Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 800x600@75Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 832x624@75Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@60Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@70Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@75Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1280x1024@75Hz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Supported detailed timing: > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): clock: 135.0 MHz Image Size: 340 x 270 mm > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1296 h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): v_active: 1024 v_sync: 1025 v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Serial No: T7KB27AG04909 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Ranges: V min: 55 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 135 MHz > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Monitor name: EN-7100s > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): EDID (in hex): > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 00ffffffffffff00160981e72d130000 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1e0c010368221b782af596a3584d9624 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 195256bfef0001010101010101010101 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 010101010101bc34009851002a401090 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 1300540e11000018000000ff0054374b > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 42323741473034393039000000fd0037 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 4b1e500d000a202020202020000000fc > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): 00454e2d37313030730a2020202000ea > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA1 > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 -hsync -vsync (80.0 kHz eP) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.1 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz e) > [ 1029.140] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz e) > [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz e) > [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz e) > [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz e) > [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x66.7 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz e) > [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e) > [ 1029.141] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz e) > [ 1029.145] (II) intel(0): EDID for output HDMI1 > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): EDID for output DP1 > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 connected > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 connected > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 disconnected > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 disconnected > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Using fuzzy aspect match for initial modes > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 using initial mode 1024x768 > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 using initial mode 1024x768 > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. > [ 1029.154] (II) intel(0): Kernel page flipping support detected, enabling > [ 1029.154] (==) intel(0): DPI set to (96, 96) > [ 1029.154] (II) Loading sub module "fb" > [ 1029.154] (II) LoadModule: "fb" > [ 1029.154] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > [ 1029.155] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 1029.155] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 1.0.0 > [ 1029.155] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > [ 1029.155] (II) Loading sub module "dri2" > [ 1029.155] (II) LoadModule: "dri2" > [ 1029.155] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in > [ 1029.155] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" > [ 1029.155] (II) Unloading fbdev > [ 1029.155] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" > [ 1029.155] (II) Unloading vesa > [ 1029.155] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > [ 1029.155] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete > [ 1029.155] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: i965 > [ 1029.155] (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1024x768 stride 4096, tiled > [ 1029.156] (II) UXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: > [ 1029.156] (II) solid > [ 1029.156] (II) copy > [ 1029.156] (II) composite (RENDER acceleration) > [ 1029.156] (II) put_image > [ 1029.156] (II) get_image > [ 1029.156] (==) intel(0): Backing store enabled > [ 1029.156] (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled > [ 1029.156] (II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor > [ 1029.156] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. > [ 1029.157] (==) intel(0): DPMS enabled > [ 1029.157] (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder enabled > [ 1029.157] (II) intel(0): Set up textured video > [ 1029.157] (II) intel(0): [XvMC] xvmc_vld driver initialized. > [ 1029.157] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled > [ 1029.470] (--) RandR disabled > > > So there are errors, but I don't know what to do about them. The fbdev errors are ignorable. Is that the entire log? The Intel HD3000 should work fine. As a start, please describe your hardware. Some notebooks have hybrid graphics like Optimus which are a problem. If that is not present, defining just the device in xorg.conf.d might be all that is needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 03:23:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E8CAE02B2 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnandsara2@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepi205.cox.net (eastrmfepi205.cox.net [68.230.241.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D6810DB for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnandsara2@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo109.cox.net ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20160329022117.JZTF10784.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo109.cox.net> for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:21:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.15] ([72.219.207.23]) by eastrmimpo109.cox.net with cox id beMG1s00D0WpXgw01eMGVS; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:21:16 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.56F9E69D.0004, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=LPboQfm9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=mYpcIwsqoufCTD7dyaqayA==:117 a=mYpcIwsqoufCTD7dyaqayA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=wnBuMqVQv5fy01gKl1EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:53:32 -0400 From: anonymous User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, wblock@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, webmaster@FreeBSD.org Subject: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:23:21 -0000 "The connection was interrupted" "The connection to forums.freebsd.org was interrupted while the page was loading." i'd like to discuss release engineering aspects BUT i wont ask you all for practical reasons i should not. however i do have an imortant request. that new users be able to see forums if not participate in free speech in them. why is it firefox 2.0, 5.0, now 20.0 cannot get onto freeBSD community forums (whereas the same does access other sites ussing httpS) echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc forums.freebsd.org 80 301 Moved Permanently

Moved Permanently

The document has moved here.

i can't even trace down why because the web server is showing "." as the altered location. there is no help on freeBSD about forum access difficulty i can find i have a box was just about to install freeBSD and wanted forum input on which version i shouldn't have to be running (newest) BSD to participate in talking to other BSD users OR there should be an "try these BSD forums" if BSD people have opted to work only with pay site GIT and do not wish to extend forums to new users. i tried Major Domo, but no one answers questions concerning forums by email - or it gets lost in shuffle there are so many emails arriving. i dont watn to pester the patch people they want new patches and no talk, not webadmin hastles. anway: asked before a couple times. i KNOW other inet users are having the same issues --------------------- Admin ID: EL3045-GANDI Admin Name: The FreeBSD Foundation Admin Organization: FreeBSD Foundation Admin Street: P.O. Box 20247 Admin City: Boulder Admin State/Province: CO Admin Postal Code: 80308 Admin Country: US Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Stephan Ramoin Registrant Organization: Gandi SAS Registrant Street: 63-65 Boulevard Massena Registrant City: Paris Registrant State/Province: Registrant Postal Code: 75013 i like french food but NOT french top down control - it gives me a stomach ache BSD is a california product why is "it in colorado" with controller "in france". that's rhetorical but i dont like your answer nor do i beleive it. to hell if anyone but usa is "leading AT&T breed BSD, usc" - go takeover linux again start another linux war. ----------------------- (i sound harsh to some, but i'm a pushover mostly) but then if i was, i should be harsh when those who are un-initiated are being pushed aside is that right ? thank you have a good day From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 04:27:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C40AE116D for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B7551C4F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25DED24CC6; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2T4R1kG002205; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:27:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:27:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: anonymous Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken Message-Id: <20160329062701.dc0e38bf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:27:12 -0000 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:53:32 -0400, anonymous wrote: > why is it firefox 2.0, 5.0, now 20.0 cannot get onto freeBSD community > forums (whereas the same does access other sites ussing httpS) The older versions of Firefox (as well as of other web browsers or HTTP CLI clients) do not support current encryption and cert technology. > echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc > forums.freebsd.org 80 > > > 301 Moved Permanently > >

Moved Permanently

>

The document has moved href="https://forums.freebsd.org/index.html">here.

> > > i can't even trace down why because the web server is showing "." as the > altered location. Thos three lines are the key: > echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc > 301 Moved Permanently > href="https://forums.freebsd.org/index.html">here.

As you can see, the new page is https (instead of http). The browser needs to support HTTPS in order to display the page. Therefore it is required to implement the "cipher suites" in use. > there is no help on freeBSD about forum access difficulty i can find There is. This topic has been discussed on this mailing list several times. Check the web archive for more information. > i have a box was just about to install freeBSD and wanted forum input on > which version Usually the most recent release (which is FreeBSD 10.2) will be fine, except of course you have valid reasons to run an older version. > i shouldn't have to be running (newest) BSD to participate in talking to > other BSD users This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD version, but with the web browser, no matter on which OS it is running. Additionally, using the currently supported version of FreeBSD is often suggested. But as I said, you might actually have a valid reason to use an older version - one that will be EOL soon, or even one that isn't supported anymore. However you should know what you're doing, as "EOL" and "not supported anymore" exactly means that there won't be support for certain aspects of the OS, which might be a problem. > OR there should be an "try these BSD forums" if BSD people have opted to > work only with pay site GIT and do not wish to extend forums to new users. FreeBSD uses SVN (Subversion) for managing source code. The code is freely available and not subject to a "pay site". > i tried Major Domo, but no one answers questions concerning forums by > email - or it gets lost in shuffle there are so many emails arriving. i > dont watn to pester the patch people they want new patches and no talk, > not webadmin hastles. Check out the various FreeBSD mailing lists. There is one that will fit your needs. If you aren't sure which list to address, ask the question as precise as possible on the general user questions mailing list. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ > anway: asked before a couple times. i KNOW other inet users are having > the same issues Properly configuring the web browser usually solves those problems. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 05:03:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8369AE1761 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8420E1940 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:03:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <56FA0C97.7070809@holgerdanske.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:03:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:03:37 -0000 On 03/27/2016 10:01 PM, Brandon Vincent wrote: > You're pretty much limited to a Dell Precision Mobile Workstation 7000 > with your requirements. > > Expect to pay $2,000+ USD new. Do you have/ know of such a machine running FreeBSD 10.2? If so, any comments, issues, etc.? David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 05:11:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4083EAE18F5 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A39E21C41; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [166.171.250.10] (account jon@radel.com HELO [10.130.82.255]) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1019770; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:11:42 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-FAB9E9CE-00D1-45C3-9613-C82900DDC22B; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken From: Jon Radel X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13D15) In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:11:34 +0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, wblock@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, webmaster@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <31B48FFD-78B2-453D-B97B-FD00093B18F3@radel.com> References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> To: anonymous X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:11:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail-FAB9E9CE-00D1-45C3-9613-C82900DDC22B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc forums.freebsd.org = 80 > > > 301 Moved Permanently > >

Moved Permanently

>

The document has moved here.

> Try without the index.html >=20 >=20 > i like french food but NOT french top down control - it gives me a stomach= ache >=20 Sounds like a personal problem.=20 > BSD is a california product why is "it in colorado" with controller "in fr= ance". that's rhetorical but i dont like your answer nor do i beleive it. t= o hell if anyone but usa is "leading AT&T breed BSD, usc" - go takeover linu= x again start another linux war. I suggest you learn more about who Gandi is.=20 >=20 > ----------------------- >=20 > (i sound harsh to some, but i'm a pushover mostly) Harsh is not the word I'd use.=20 --Apple-Mail-FAB9E9CE-00D1-45C3-9613-C82900DDC22B Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIF/DCCBfgw ggTgoAMCAQICEHNU5Tx9a7TNDWBpDfzOARswDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdC MRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoT EUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVu dGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQTAeFw0xNTAzMzAwMDAwMDBaFw0xODAzMjkyMzU5 NTlaMIH6MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEOMAwGA1UEERMFMjIxNTAxCzAJBgNVBAgTAlZBMRQwEgYDVQQH EwtTcHJpbmdmaWVsZDEaMBgGA1UECRMRNjkxNyBSaWRnZXdheSBEci4xFTATBgNVBAoTDEpvbiBU LiBSYWRlbDEyMDAGA1UECxMpSXNzdWVkIHRocm91Z2ggSm9uIFQuIFJhZGVsIEUtUEtJIE1hbmFn ZXIxHzAdBgNVBAsTFkNvcnBvcmF0ZSBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwxEjAQBgNVBAMTCUpvbiBSYWRlbDEc MBoGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYNam9uQHJhZGVsLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoC ggEBAN7VG2H2FtCpo4Of74Ll1UBAf2czZUfeg9rNm587CYgbZJcj+/c+56ZxBDcmSGalDTqBizPJ duRMIuyq8R9qViPzWN238rmVPhpV2PQt8khbJNxT3lXauwK4exK+f8+chywS1eDnesK2pLgQ60n2 7etjaE/xgKLLPXJjeaficomz3cwcbgCRdi5WnN9ogAMRNxWsD6trO9cR+cMldcNln1m65XXTrIii 86+FhZKVpW7yetIcmNcVkjYhfCAh5UGgyKHfK7osuPXgj9h1nSsgDwr5Q0H41bpGLe7AdcFuviOH dmqSuohVSt/VV7JuF2slx2pd0w0eMoNKUKhrFhFsvLUCAwEAAaOCAdUwggHRMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaA FJJha4LhoqCqT+xn8cKj97SAAMHsMB0GA1UdDgQWBBTP1gHXRYR8E0eyRHCj/S+HyppC7DAOBgNV HQ8BAf8EBAMCBaAwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADAdBgNVHSUEFjAUBggrBgEFBQcDBAYIKwYBBQUHAwIw RgYDVR0gBD8wPTA7BgwrBgEEAbIxAQIBAwUwKzApBggrBgEFBQcCARYdaHR0cHM6Ly9zZWN1cmUu Y29tb2RvLm5ldC9DUFMwXQYDVR0fBFYwVDBSoFCgToZMaHR0cDovL2NybC5jb21vZG9jYS5jb20v Q09NT0RPU0hBMjU2Q2xpZW50QXV0aGVudGljYXRpb25hbmRTZWN1cmVFbWFpbENBLmNybDCBkAYI KwYBBQUHAQEEgYMwgYAwWAYIKwYBBQUHMAKGTGh0dHA6Ly9jcnQuY29tb2RvY2EuY29tL0NPTU9E T1NIQTI1NkNsaWVudEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uYW5kU2VjdXJlRW1haWxDQS5jcnQwJAYIKwYBBQUH MAGGGGh0dHA6Ly9vY3NwLmNvbW9kb2NhLmNvbTAYBgNVHREEETAPgQ1qb25AcmFkZWwuY29tMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQBLU976AGA/5JD9rkjl7vNfRGDQOEffvwseVmLEmBLot8I8vZ50oxRC LdOH0Zd8uN17J5a4xajP3blnMEdw/CQF4f6Iz8ASG7QOGLSSin+nrqD20Q8lRn8oOyrF100OsPRP Kmff/fekdOMkQOrJ3MCDAHQ2fxuWkxupLBP6PzC49qR8uyPVxIPNetMsuyYhAHtq4DJphd1bJbxi rDffqstQK+M5R+eo47KNWyJ5PD/Q8ug4clobJ7P5W1Xh7KLqnVI2JffYD5+/EEzMpAsKiQTjdxci 1z06TOr/9/Z+68anXuvyambg6OMzkTaTCyD1sE9QExHj+zGiwpUufSj2vGWjMYIDwzCCA78CAQEw gbAwgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcT B1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hB LTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQQIQc1TlPH1rtM0N YGkN/M4BGzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIB5zAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3 DQEJBTEPFw0xNjAzMjkwNDExMzRaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBRNgEIhhJr48FlaMcrNfqfE+D8b iDCBwQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMYGzMIGwMIGbMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBN YW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFB MD8GA1UEAxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUg RW1haWwgQ0ECEHNU5Tx9a7TNDWBpDfzOARswgcMGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMYGzoIGwMIGbMQswCQYD VQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRow GAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFBMD8GA1UEAxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50 IEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwgQ0ECEHNU5Tx9a7TNDWBpDfzOARswDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEAGiIHwRIcSx6lfazZkEm/w/rd0BzALPTsmM7wcfjjSSi4r2j/DEtABYTT Ybdy5AefuEFNFPh+V8duf9uBSp1VYFmqG1glyeHf3NxtqnYPdRrjMjH0/ZSY8I9ZsySeESMSFK1O M0IxoAGcyVKoDxYV25JRCt0JBHmJd+0ZpfIy+KYSLOJ6yovdnMUzB7X9aHkHRcNAtOe7/whFTFjW gz4BTMjE+Y84FH/u13FQsxsLEpnEZmneTXDmiX5XcdU6Telx3z7MuLmmlAUqYc2M8RntZncpbGW7 WUO3aSuK/GLGHeNJmZWwqyPrABsVZbfT9QdwWygg1w6/ac8AEZsdHzeoOgAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail-FAB9E9CE-00D1-45C3-9613-C82900DDC22B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 05:17:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DD2AE1B1A for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D2671E8B for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:17:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F84093.3030106@holgerdanske.com> <20160328131232.010ae86b@fujitsu> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <56FA0FCB.9070502@holgerdanske.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160328131232.010ae86b@fujitsu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:17:16 -0000 On 03/28/2016 03:12 AM, Aleksander Alekseev wrote: > Take a look on Fujitsu laptops, e.g. E733 (there are also many other > models like this one). These concrete model seems to satisfy your > requirements. Currently I'm running Ubuntu on it. But I don't see a > reason why there should be any problem with FreeBSD since hardware > seems to be compatible. Please post if/ when you install FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, etc., on your Fujitsu. > Not sure regarding Wi-Fi though, but there are > cheap and very small USB adapters like TP-LINK TL-WN725N and Edimax > EW-7811Un that could solve this issue, see this list: > > https://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/support.html > > Anyway you can usually check a laptop before paying for it. Also > consider Apple laptops. > > Please note that you should use CURRENT branch use Intel GPUs at > maximum especially OpenGL capabilities. I'm looking for a laptop that runs FreeBSD 10.2 OOTB. > There is also sometimes tricky > to boot FreeBSD installer on todays laptops because of features like > Fast Startup and Secure Boot. Here are some hints that can help you > with that: https://goo.gl/7HAaDE > > Also I would like to recommend these articles: > > * https://unrelenting.technology/articles/freebsd-on-the-thinkpad-x240 I'm looking for a laptop that runs FreeBSD 10.2 OOTB. > * http://eax.me/freebsd-on-desktop-v2/ (use Google Translate) Maybe... David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 05:37:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D09FAE1E54 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39B2014EF for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EFF208783C; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:37:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8saevJ3O_WkU; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.21.96.50] (c-24-147-10-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.147.10.153]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38101208779C; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> To: anonymous , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Message-ID: <56FA149A.9030104@tysdomain.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:37:30 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:37:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 3/28/2016 9:53 PM, anonymous wrote: > "The connection was interrupted" > > "The connection to forums.freebsd.org was interrupted while the > page was loading." > > i'd like to discuss release engineering aspects BUT i wont ask you > all for practical reasons i should not. however i do have an > imortant request. > Before you start delving into Releng it might be important to dive into SSL--just a thought. > that new users be able to see forums if not participate in free > speech in them. > > why is it firefox 2.0, 5.0, now 20.0 cannot get onto freeBSD > community forums (whereas the same does access other sites ussing > httpS) > If you're using Firefox 2.0 and 5.0, that's probably your issue. HTTPS has evolved a lot since then, whenever then might be. I'm currently running Firefox 45.0 and can access the forums fine, so it seems you're 25 versions behind. Perhaps Firefox releng can help you? Or perhaps you can just update. > echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc > forums.freebsd.org 80 2.0//EN"> 301 Moved Permanently >

Moved Permanently

The document has moved > here.

> > > i can't even trace down why because the web server is showing "." > as the altered location. No, the web server is not showing "." as the altered location, it's showing the same URL with https (forcing you to use SSL and HTTPS, which incidentally generally is useful in protecting free speech as well as your login details). > > there is no help on freeBSD about forum access difficulty i can > find > This is not a FreeBSD issue, it's a you issue. Update your browser. > i have a box was just about to install freeBSD and wanted forum > input on which version > Unless you have very good reason, I recommend 10.2-release. > i shouldn't have to be running (newest) BSD to participate in > talking to other BSD users There's the forums with an updated browser, this mailing list (which has probably already gotten some responses and I've not made it that far) and IRC. I'm sure there are other ways, I hear that you can run smokesignald but I've never tried. > > OR there should be an "try these BSD forums" if BSD people have > opted to work only with pay site GIT and do not wish to extend > forums to new users. > Getting redirected to an SSL site is not an adoption of a "pay" site. > i tried Major Domo, but no one answers questions concerning forums > by email - or it gets lost in shuffle there are so many emails > arriving. i dont watn to pester the patch people they want new > patches and no talk, not webadmin hastles. > > anway: asked before a couple times. i KNOW other inet users are > having the same issues > Tell them not to run old versions of their browsers as well. Apart from not connecting to sites which properly configure SSL, it's not all that secure. There's a reason why browsers update. > > --------------------- > > Admin ID: EL3045-GANDI Admin Name: The FreeBSD Foundation Admin > Organization: FreeBSD Foundation Admin Street: P.O. Box 20247 Admin > City: Boulder Admin State/Province: CO Admin Postal Code: 80308 > Admin Country: US > > Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Stephan Ramoin Registrant > Organization: Gandi SAS Registrant Street: 63-65 Boulevard Massena > Registrant City: Paris Registrant State/Province: Registrant Postal > Code: 75013 > > i like french food but NOT french top down control - it gives me a > stomach ache I'm not really sure what this means. > > BSD is a california product why is "it in colorado" with controller > "in france". that's rhetorical but i dont like your answer nor do > i beleive it. to hell if anyone but usa is "leading AT&T breed > BSD, usc" - go takeover linux again start another linux war. This makes about as much sense as the rest of your message. The registration of a domain does not mean anything. Also, BSD has its' roots in Berkeley, but it doesn't make it a "california" product. As far as I am aware, the foundation is ran out of Colorado where it probably holds it's status for the organization. AT&T BSD is long gone and isn't an issue anymore. The country of origin or where the registrar is located is not really relevant to anything. I recommend you indulge your bigotry somewhere else. > > ----------------------- > > (i sound harsh to some, but i'm a pushover mostly) > Harsh is hardly the word I would've used to describe the last message. > but then if i was, i should be harsh when those who are > un-initiated are being pushed aside is that right ? > > thank you have a good day > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJW+hSaAAoJEAdP60+BYxejuQIH/jrfSS69O1LETi30g+FE4kL6 WvMQK1FQzgmFaYggLHJ6wGF4P/iPxrU+ns+pKDmcq7EnDG6AavML+U1L0lTRcBn/ wlpOb/UW7BbBhste9MqC40pOral7XOWv9NvBtV512s0GHa0QRdsJNeoRh7nQMSHU QBuD83nkxPupKBmtAjd8cFXlU8XwusPVz+MRR3pVGIzEvXw2Iu9Ho3j1C5rWtlAr /oEoQ4Uw78IRSUAlUMzvBB5EcYqEhp3iRkhnLXpDXwbdqkVN9+j5XhqnWTAGpdp+ lVfj2ucjJR9YOS6OpRDKigr30G665XbHVwanmT+CNz0k8Ta7fGk0r81LRDgs5s4= =3E65 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 05:41:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA716AE1F39 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF6AB16C5; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id cl4so68411209igb.0; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:41:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=vt74u2pxIgmOIND8ow+PbGbhEWIC8kf08GY15sy8lI0=; b=mW80YdQ992/x98o46yg5X8iKNbeR1Ap39zDKLZoawBDvhHIXoihDJGHtfcveUWf24F lONPVLMLNfmVTiGMXuSmMjYTgiauicyQdulk3cSmpW193sNfxPSQsutVqhF5tR1Ohkbe P2JOCEww0dpey+3uWNmqI8KXZVXP5X5NJMmDVZRYwRKHa5rTrMtce46SOsi1/zAbAYqV sOOAUNJsri6/Jb/m85Zjl+yoVLNFIupfYrP2mdeGx5sMCXcE2295KNhZPkAy25Fbf2px ukFL48w40sxhdSYeKlf0+eUrksa9MeDc0NgVR7PDwrK4YOrTK1B2aOBFMtEimlpIiWNk DpJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJaHNpWYbgoSzKuH10jtoI9oXpjinCMc+bbrx3YiErpzZmC/PK8xHmxjOTjst7dAA== X-Received: by 10.50.72.82 with SMTP id b18mr696871igv.79.1459228559006; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-133-17.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.133.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm5586630igy.20.2016.03.28.22.15.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: anonymous Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, wblock@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, webmaster@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken In-reply-to: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: <8660w5q2yb.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:41:36 -0000 anonymous writes: > i'd like to discuss release engineering aspects BUT i wont ask you all > for practical reasons i should not. however i do have an imortant request. > > that new users be able to see forums if not participate in free speech > in them. > > why is it firefox 2.0, 5.0, now 20.0 cannot get onto freeBSD community > forums (whereas the same does access other sites ussing httpS) I'm pretty tired, but am I reading this right? You want to have a serious discussion about release engineering on the forums, but can't, because you ignored security and bug fixes for your browser five years? And now you're requesting that someone reverse the changes made to the website over the years? I apologize if I'm reading it wrong, but if not, surely you see the irony in that... -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 09:00:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F41AE1BEA for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 091891C9F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id p65so129468807wmp.1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:00:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=ZBRP6LalqkIBIMKEfHNj+l9loj2WmHKOYHne+qKHRvg=; b=Yx7GzWCZ8D1ygXqoIVq/llLQuQchGWdaUu68a5TOXDKM6FDlGk80b2hgWCZEPhla9d ngArEFbxVFmdpOO7ccEf8DUjV1ieW9QoTt66GATmtPN4xXxK34ByeSypWbQOfsOTGG7N xqPp4HzccMn9Vyp5mDWnkwMA3qgEAIKFtQNcD/tRS57i4j2vBkfjlvsuA/IcKhJ0zmxU MDm/YCNDyPTNw+S+x/xYfGlEkwJ6dbovoRQjAEZvtiKiDo47KEisxQ/sg3/a/fI0EvNU kUui12bgVB8G6iEp31ZquZCpt2SE48M3L7KYN4i/VKQrk3tXG/wA8vKM/9Mp+nFKSpex KGfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=ZBRP6LalqkIBIMKEfHNj+l9loj2WmHKOYHne+qKHRvg=; b=Wqp9WrHsm0YqYrlzcPWvlcSQD298MaT0UWcSD0DuWJ6MnM02qUbXYwlUpNyyGbDPfr J3crQdYpty5lvZKsFsnFCOspZI14dJkr6dhVyomdT63lul0GrR5bd0itn7tyvMLhxR1c k/8ohdPCE+80/PEHDeiY7UsmHWNik6LzwTkdIndK9Am+4rZ8sHV4uWPnXqDNgcAqo3kx vVwHaxxvrrsiATaY6QrPgfgoza89iP/1krx7noD0Lguv60z+7VzdQz0TjwuWuuhtWFaa nNL6RhS4GMWJMUD2WRaJM48H3UHPiRrlQobfJ5Cx/+noImazvAhw+2Zwu7gt0wk8pRNn py4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJK/8D7NsG2lBoKTK6NLzHhsVQ9SV0FhDYRu2COzbXjNje1TvO73fvmqkObftqCACIeZQiJgQa9Qh1oeZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.115 with SMTP id ex19mr1369291wjd.56.1459241999301; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.67 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:59:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> References: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:59:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: question re: PF and forwarding From: krad To: tyler@tysdomain.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:00:01 -0000 what network topology are the jails nics on? I presume its not vnet as that doesnt play well with PF. Your rules hint at the jails being on loopback. If so can you put them on a separate ip on your subnet as pf can still filter them fine there, and you will find the ruleset a bit easier to manage. If those 192 addresses arent on loopback and are on the same subnet as the hosts ip on igb0, why are you natting them, this will probably cause issues? On 28 March 2016 at 21:23, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > All, > sorry for the multiple emails recently. I'm working to get my server > set up here so I can begin doing some dev on BHyve once that is all > finalized. > I am jailing my services like minidlna samba and unbound and am using > PF to forward those. > For whatever reason I do not see the ports I specify as open ports, > but the individual addresses show them when I connect from within my > server. For example, I can telnet 192.168.0.2 445 and that works fine > in terms of establishing a connection. I was hoping that someone might > see any connection here. Here is my pf.conf. > *** > if="igb0" > addr="10.21.96.128" > samba_addr="192.168.0.2" > dlna_addr="192.168.0.3" > unbound_addr="192.168.0.4" > tcp_services="{ssh 53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn microsoft-ds}" > udp_services="{53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn microsoft-ds}" > > set skip on lo > set loginterface $if > scrub in all > > #allow jails through > nat on $if inet from $samba_addr to any tag jail_samba -> $addr > nat on $if inet from $dlna_addr to any tag jail_dlna -> $addr > nat on $if inet from $unbound_addr to any tag jail_unbound -> $addr > #portforward to jails. > #unbound > rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr > port 53 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr > port 53 > #samba > rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr > port 137 > rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr > port 138 > rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr > port 139 > rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr > port 445 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr > port 137 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr > port 138 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr > port 139 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr > port 445 > > #rules > pass quick on lo1 > pass from igb0:network to any keep state > > #default policy: deny > antispoof quick for { $if lo } > block in all > #accept TCP ports. > pass in on $if proto tcp from any to any port $tcp_services > pass in on $if proto udp from any to any port $udp_services > *** > - -- > Take care, > Ty > Twitter: @sorressean > Web: https://tysdomain.com > Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJW+ZKqAAoJEAdP60+BYxejccoIAJXdhyvB15PtXyBeA7K0e5tR > MIP6SVWmdWpv/9AxPAodPvHgTiyJF4A50VsJ9Tcnq8v0gnulIKXytlBHwuJe0goI > b8vJT+Sqq6d6ystnhGddh1npgHbwD8LwP5s7AA6LIhFxq84GIprC22+HCi/tTHXF > AGX408PNJbNXXwA5F/tzBQH2uFXUA28d6NKkeOjrKkIn5ZwCB57ehmDO/3yNhZHT > ONvzK83QbyYU2q+BRYIkqPNzpXIQgPGIULMHj57jymOZqdjDd6llSvmWdKWkhv9d > BIRDcd513n+GjYc4fCzwTh110EOhC47IbBTK09l3SCgcvbztTKx0m1vQvNQk73Y= > =Lvnv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 09:03:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE882AE1D77 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 616021F84 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id r72so47567992wmg.0 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:03:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=bup7GL0yvYFrKWCpzFlJMfTmEFdByKAKAGrK9bmQyVA=; b=Gp2AzvuOtQTIWu9ac0cNZr98GDP9MWHYQzLZOxeTyho6lNkWbYUpwmGL4Z2kpAVLSu nPi6QZI3nkwjWIgWUGAu7Jn4MZ0uHjzZSXZHoOYLil4fl0Ro8Bn+goj0v4STVKV0qzWz xUAFBV7Wv0QxKBfl+6jzOwUEHPJYEnw2oGU5MlbjRkLma1mcNks8KZYlFNClFE7OqYX+ olF7u5LkQ8NbPFmu207Cj/HhN+I3n8iXqag6K35qMqnCYkJrj2s7G7wxJ2o9z7BfdfXj 0EOgPse7mnPcldNG2fOrkm5+0748lJip5YC95oJbLJMkq7pk6xpP1lrxHQ39OPRdq1L4 6ONQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=bup7GL0yvYFrKWCpzFlJMfTmEFdByKAKAGrK9bmQyVA=; b=eslGGWo3hegGUL2tNDKSFl5X3h5lreGJvjWTrU4TatychXU74sRb8BfbuU45cVYe7U lzN4rBhVxP/yLCoya1tL39uet1lzOIFTmqRW0dK4+TiCvGT+n1SEDcfHiPWp8TZeD1Do gr/BfAt2yiQQ+r84lXknfxS85RlVveYTqyExCG1pLpsi3tPKfViV7tEqFZubjFQIEhsE 6U64HqS6gOKDrQLbrbQMemPdU6zjBG59dt2Fy6uBqkWF3p4oFbF0oXWLnXy+J7fFjd3P p543KVHRFT7BcQiFaw1pY8GFQ5d/BMh8zJo+/NWyX6MA925QY9Opu++yXajkdblN1s9n XPPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI/6qWDNlNfyWsQ7yvVo6CiiFHwRWA5FKMVHix5XXyYxNQvKIZgMm4kKiZG+2Sn+mr3KyLzNh3MNpCYhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.115 with SMTP id ex19mr1391680wjd.56.1459242236797; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.67 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:03:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56F8C6E0.4070605@allunix.ru> References: <56F8C6E0.4070605@allunix.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:03:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS on a NetApp powered VMWare cluster From: krad To: Admin Cc: =?UTF-8?B?5by15pWs5piK?= , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:03:58 -0000 apart from the boot environment stuff which is very handy for upgrading stuff irrelevant of the underlying disk architecture ..... I would say test in a safe environment and see if its FUD or not you your usage pattern. On 28 March 2016 at 06:53, Admin wrote: > There kinda is no profit in using ZFS this way. It's good when you use > local disks and give those disks fully to ZFS, this way you really don't > have any performance impact except considerable amount of RAM going to ZF= S > needs. But other then that, no, FreeBSD from, say, 9.0-RELEASE works > perfectly with ZFS. If you keep NAS on ZFS shared by ZFS - that also is a > good idea, but if you use ZFS on virtual disks of VMWare then I'd say > that's a waste. > > > 27.03.2016 22:07, =E5=BC=B5=E6=95=AC=E6=98=8A =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1= =82: > > Hi list: >> >> We have about eight freebsd workstations on vmware vsphere 6 cluster who= se >> storage is based on NFS provided by NetApp. >> >> We have been using ZFS on our workstations because we wanted to take >> advantage of the ZFS boot environment; however, recently we are told not >> to >> do so because using ZFS would impose a huge performance impact on our >> workstations. Is that true? Or is there any suggestions on tuning the ZF= S >> on those workstations? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Frank Chang >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 09:14:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457A1AE02DD for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2E8215FC; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id r72so47941260wmg.0; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:14:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=5b2yPIkDj3SkvXzrFY/OSxUwnNwNmyxwxbd7NVoVNP0=; b=AiodtnOb9Muo4/zvOTZ0zbBOnylJkbQ9RJ2bpGNH+elB77uyJbgnATullsYb8++8pd 95NT/jtyyBPCLOwgc8XWPAvTXNgz82B07RbQxLyDMiF6oCBTiHDyPWTRg6/wi73dPdy0 +tfgRHAA1dwbgj2Aog/zEhq+9z88XuNOXHGR1g96TZf7IpIabgf9Mka0+QAnmUDW5IN9 xU1USaUd8iP20MrArUJlooJJlc9/u9fRGLmMLN5u67cdu4Leg/0k7vsSn1SYJdpSnnNI ciajiQAgA7+yj0R75S/HAbkYOGARtxKXdsMkynIVQN+BjZqN9hx7vuzo0qthID8zlj17 Yy8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=5b2yPIkDj3SkvXzrFY/OSxUwnNwNmyxwxbd7NVoVNP0=; b=Na1EUiEuRzRvQFYou6rU/s4Qlp81OBidsKz0rpdsUm3H5vcwqE+VZUo7o4oml9iC99 Gek81D/2Uo2pzSadgelBo9f8/T3hJWNQ3gneOyaAmpHzzORVdguyWZF/0S9tDBXzB5Bv wNy6k/zrvZS26lkNy34rG5wA/cXyB42Ar2RJ5P1tQ7u0ihKXmgTHwP20CgcXw2suKEwi LYSB90TD+NuBEr4Xl6OQ04pCUFD0HUD+y5acyFyNscpi17QRwbb5MrI3Hi0jdF/bd07E 4RVGZsJl3R5+sASsL90lsGM9Dn8fOaO3tjeoauAYRsbBp+2br6Nu7KimphyEYohdmGgn T3Ow== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLntDPoGgnCXh+aGz5E7wTyN3aQpeBeHZ0eIQJE5fPzwjc58p5lRgFwLlP7aE/tBfgF604rI6+EjOjW4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.12.80 with SMTP id 77mr1898550wmm.19.1459242865428; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.67 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:14:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86k2krpu2a.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> <86k2krpu2a.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:14:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: krad To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: Olivier Nicole , Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:14:27 -0000 " > But a picture can contain a 1000 words... ...and kilobytes. :P And if you amend the rules to allow one image, someone will inevitably wonder why it's not reasonable to change the rules to allow more. Because they can't capture all the output during boot at once, you see. They need to reboot multiple times and take multiple photos of their monitors with their smartphones to get it all. Sorry, I'm ranting now, but I've seen this happen in online forums." Well seeing as a char requires a byte to store it many 1000s of words require...... 8P (yes i know emails are 7 bit,) On 24 March 2016 at 19:14, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > krad writes: > > > But a picture can contain a 1000 words... > > ...and kilobytes. :P > > And if you amend the rules to allow one image, someone will inevitably > wonder why it's not reasonable to change the rules to allow > more. Because they can't capture all the output during boot at once, you > see. They need to reboot multiple times and take multiple photos of > their monitors with their smartphones to get it all. Sorry, I'm ranting > now, but I've seen this happen in online forums. > > -- > > :: Brandon J. Wandersee > :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com > :: -------------------------------------------------- > :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' > :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 11:28:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E796FAE2A63 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:28:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B079B1E25 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:28:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 299B061FD7; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:28:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:28:40 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat Message-ID: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:28:49 -0000 I am trying to get www/obhttpd running in a jail. `service obhttpd start` works and I get it listening on port 80. But if I run `service obhttpd stop` I encounter two problems: 1. It seems that there's a problem terminating all related processes. Stopping obhttpd. kill: 8221: No such process kill: 8222: No such process kill: 8223: No such process kill: 8224: No such process 2. I end up with some ports open that I don't know how to close. USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRE= SS =20 ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* Some ideas on what could be causing the first and second issue? How can I c= lose these ports manually? Is this worth a bug report or a mistake on my side? --=20 Niklaas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 12:05:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5474AE2E6D for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 693131868 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (vpn-1.adestra.com [46.236.37.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F60D3AA9 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201601-infracaninophile; t=1459253113; bh=dIKuBYE8RwvNuntexE++XTszl6A1T7ZbCRnd5C2xfAo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; z=Subject:=20Re:=20www/obhttpd=20and=20question=20marks=20in=20sock stat|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|References:=20<2016032911 2840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu>|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Date:=20Tue,=2029=20Mar=202016=2013:05:26=2 0+0100|In-Reply-To:=20<20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu>; b=fyN7c9UTuA8G9wy28bAfLmNL8l/NlQlUfXWfFWAkfVFOB/kxoUga1fGy25iA5qp7V KwL4p+MHZMi4QtX1dHftXvESjXdArwWYvuVN/HeXQxOF34cbUTpLTt+CoYkT9tl7C7 27ApxzG6KgeFwFQpZS02rJrLqKI5xgV4A6PXV6cw= Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:05:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlNATpDK9MaKn7jW1lNKNEPLobfEKH65W" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:05:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UlNATpDK9MaKn7jW1lNKNEPLobfEKH65W Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rJ0hFuOURWVhrOLskWblGd3jklOwg3i0C" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat References: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> In-Reply-To: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> --rJ0hFuOURWVhrOLskWblGd3jklOwg3i0C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/03/29 12:28, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > I am trying to get www/obhttpd running in a jail. `service obhttpd > start` works and I get it listening on port 80. But if I run `service > obhttpd stop` I encounter two problems: >=20 > 1. It seems that there's a problem terminating all related processes. >=20 > Stopping obhttpd. > kill: 8221: No such process > kill: 8222: No such process > kill: 8223: No such process > kill: 8224: No such process Looks like the obhttpd process is trying to kill of its children individually, but they've all already been killed. Possibly by a signal to the whole process group. It's untidy, but it has achieved your aim of killing the obhttpd processes. Try watching what happens in top(1), and tailing the logfile(s) as you shutdown the obhttpd service. You should see obhttpd and its child processes disappear as you type 'service obhttpd stop', and the child process pids should correspond to what you see in the error message. > 2. I end up with some ports open that I don't know how to close. >=20 > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN A= DDRESS =20 > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *= :* > ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* >=20 > Some ideas on what could be causing the first and second issue? How can= I close > these ports manually? Is this worth a bug report or a mistake on my sid= e? This connection is already closed. You can tell by the question marks. It only still exists in the sockstat output as the kernel is hanging onto the connection details so it can reap any stray packets that may, belatedly, arrive. If you wait patiently, these lines will eventually disappear from the sockstat output. Or you can just restart the daemon anyhow -- it should come up normally. Cheers, Matthew --rJ0hFuOURWVhrOLskWblGd3jklOwg3i0C-- --UlNATpDK9MaKn7jW1lNKNEPLobfEKH65W Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW+m+MXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnVogP/1IzlLOG/RamSmxkxB2U5eRm xpLH1Xem60rKQQrCjtWrtvlsr8bfYGc0OYexqURNzPRoe4GGQTjfEGwYsfwFEsWU 3j8z2lu4wbzAcmGKvVwdG+wvzfRijnBUamHDRbBSDADn6cgIkYk491jbaDrgsY56 wXrYeGpFAzYVIXkyyaGF9Qdt0nPCID724FYdPcQUsYsXwV1URM0Oi7BmNxHW4pwm CnByfwI9XdQZnwMb+6NPbO02oMN8WozP0OPDzzdktrtQPmzFGkOj+YMNKWUmayrf w+JYgBzA/wBl+5fzvzOLgBLv1UZAIqx8EJdCtiIPmubR0WeqeyiKcjEcyUpol0JD mTbg+ySjapV98MeNqpF05npLi3Melwmac0XXg+SnZI7kDpD0z7PKETnQB+pOVuQ6 t3ZvTJ9VLv0iNHUWtP6gI03AmDBCQkEC75WwJ/oItEn74EwlWuGwwQ+syaB62wr1 lEYH8i2wPWypHhAr+PQC8lDmWvHfrYjf1sEdliwOTWwzAGXo9LskfcnHZBQrb4IQ Bk+LPOZYvxA4NLNUUu/7ZvcUfe5fPmSJ8w2DoYMryE7bWsRlOVGUdbkP0chanlHi IX5VFCHWai7eP06ClVY2AAui7xBQXZ82Ockn4wHj2vaCu7QxS5kh/wiYtdS+Cdzh 3fGTsmc+0EwZVm0iimre =k0+7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlNATpDK9MaKn7jW1lNKNEPLobfEKH65W-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 13:07:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583C8AE0DA7 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from new2-smtp.messagingengine.com (new2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D8911776 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailnew.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4938F1ED for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:58:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=qcLtgMdCCQdUsQo9nFvhQEIG/Nc=; b=nay78l AC/doQ8GoGuMlUo53OWkBM3Hp5UnUUHgCRaMYfgIWYOz955OHIOEUo9zKhRvUUA9 5Ku4SRhJqJE/8bOS22TLyilQF0I/09uQ8KLRZ8d0zD3tmxQ2/6U1X4cFWKr9msar M04nOtiNGTFliMZAFCxKIj7X5Ys03Co7Jh77w= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=qcLtgMdCCQdUsQo 9nFvhQEIG/Nc=; b=tUAKrDG0ydXnVGEvXXSStUVcHWEeZmXPHCKsPIznagV8D/r Bg8stIl2nZ1x28ZB03bz1w0Ba9KToI8xCotklIbBmIny4AAeS9DOV9d6ZNNGxN1G Ga2g0P+Yjf6wFg7cS/9AjMc5SOyCu0ygqxqXDCkukzKlDis3EAYpm+2865yQ= X-Sasl-enc: q+Vb1dpzrhbd0yPB5TMbMph/7z5ocKsOZJ4l/GV7iiZ7 1459256323 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (pumpkin.growveg.org [62.49.247.162]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C26B0680145 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> From: tech-lists Message-ID: <56FA7BF8.6040303@zyxst.net> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:58:32 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:07:59 -0000 On 29/03/2016 02:53, anonymous wrote: > "The connection was interrupted" Though it doesn't answer your question, TBH I'm not sure why the forums exist when we have mailing lists and publicly accessible frontends for browsing those lists. A decades worth of compressed email from multiple mailing lists will fit onto a modern usb stick and that's searchable with any text search tool you like. I guess I'm not a fan of the same kind of information but not exactly the same information in different places. Just means more places to search, some which might be unavailable at the time, so missing information at that time. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 15:25:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F63AE1BEA for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50ACA1120; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2TFP6rK064436 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:25:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u2TFP6Li064433; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:25:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:25:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: anonymous cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, wblock@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, webmaster@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Message-ID: References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:25:06 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:25:18 -0000 Please contact forum-admins@FreeBSD.org for forum usage questions. A decision was made to use HTTPS to improve the security and privacy of forum users. This is not a function of the operating system, but of the web browser. Older browsers use old and potentially vulnerable encryption. While it can be frustrating to be forced to upgrade applications, it is a fact of life with modern computer use. > BSD is a california product why is "it in colorado" with controller > "in france". Gandi is a domain registrar, and the FreeBSD Foundation is a non-profit foundation that supports FreeBSD. Neither of them are the FreeBSD project, which is a worldwide cooperative effort with people and resources in many countries. > that's rhetorical but i dont like your answer nor do i beleive it. > to hell if anyone but usa is "leading AT&T breed BSD, usc" - go > takeover linux again start another linux war. Leaving aside the definition of "rhetorical" and casting aspersions on answers before they have even been provided... FreeBSD would be a tiny, sad shadow of what it is today without the contributions of a great many people in countries besides the US. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 15:36:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E33AE1FD7 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from mx-relay24.cloudservice.ag (mx-relay24.cloudservice.ag [46.235.240.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD5E1A4C for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from fw1.hostedoffice.ag ([81.20.90.82]) by mx-gate24.cloudservice.ag; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:35:18 +0200 Received: from EX10HUB1.hosting.inetserver.de (unknown [10.20.10.69]) by qhexrelay1.hosting.inetserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C731175CE4 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.153] (80.128.239.26) by mail.hostedoffice.ag (10.20.10.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:33:04 +0200 To: From: Dennis Steinkamp Subject: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" Message-ID: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:35:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [80.128.239.26] X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: e299f49b-79fd-4cde-afcd-99df35de8a6e X-hostedoffice-tnef: done X-cloud-security-sender: dennis@lightandshadow.tv X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate24 with 3235D10C0C62 X-cloud-security-connect: fw1.hostedoffice.ag[81.20.90.82], TLS=0, IP=81.20.90.82 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1929 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:36:10 -0000 Hey guys, i apologize if this questions has been asked recently but i couldn`t find a clear answer to that, so bear with me a little here ^^ In the past i played around with ZFS, can`t say i have much experience with it but i know the "essentials" about it, i guess. ^^ When i wanted to go the ZFS route in a home environment i usually went for OmniOS + napp-it, cause i was always under the impression that you get the latest ZFS development on OmniOS after Oracle stopped caring about open-source. Furthermore, the convenience of a in kernel CIFS implementation which made zfs snapshots accessible under previous versions for windows clients was just great. But of course there is so much to like about freebsd and the last time i checked about freebsd and zfs was a couple of years ago so i am afraid i am not totally up2date. That being said i got a few questions for you guys: - Are OmniOS and FreeBSD are on the same ZFS version (or at least equal feature wise) - Am i able to build a prooduction stable zfs filer with freebsd that supports zfs snapshots for windows clients the same way OmniOS does. I did a little bit of research on this and it was a little bit vague but it seems its possible with FreeBSD and Samba4. Am i on the right track here or are there any other maybe better ways to make zfs snapshots and rollbacks easily doable for windows client machines. Thank you guys for helping me out. Dennis From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 15:40:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB1DAE20A1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C98E1BA2 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EF3208783D; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:40:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8N89BZ1LLpMV; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.200.119.198] (unknown [69.43.66.12]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DCD420877BA; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com Subject: Re: question re: PF and forwarding References: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> To: krad Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Message-ID: <56FAA1CD.4070808@tysdomain.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:39:57 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:40:18 -0000 On 3/29/2016 4:59 AM, krad wrote: > what network topology are the jails nics on? I presume its not vnet > as that doesnt play well with PF. Your rules hint at the jails > being on loopback. If so can you put them on a separate ip on your > subnet as pf can still filter them fine there, and you will find > the ruleset a bit easier to manage. If those 192 addresses arent on > loopback and are on the same subnet as the hosts ip on igb0, why > are you natting them, this will probably cause issues? > I have tried with them as aliases on IGB0 (my subnet for external is 10.21.96.0/24 and my jails subnet is 192.168.0.1/24. This should worrk fine. I also have put them on loopback, just for giggles to see if they would still forrward. I can connect through just fine (from jail->host->outside), but I can not connect to port 445/etc on the host. I have gateway enabled in rc.conf and ip4 and ipv6 (although not relevant) have forwarding enabled via sysctl. I'm unclear as to why the ports would not be forwarded through from host->jail and not really sure how to test that. Thanks, > > > On 28 March 2016 at 21:23, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote: > > All, sorry for the multiple emails recently. I'm working to get my > server set up here so I can begin doing some dev on BHyve once that > is all finalized. I am jailing my services like minidlna samba and > unbound and am using PF to forward those. For whatever reason I do > not see the ports I specify as open ports, but the individual > addresses show them when I connect from within my server. For > example, I can telnet 192.168.0.2 445 and that works fine in terms > of establishing a connection. I was hoping that someone might see > any connection here. Here is my pf.conf. *** if="igb0" > addr="10.21.96.128" samba_addr="192.168.0.2" > dlna_addr="192.168.0.3" unbound_addr="192.168.0.4" > tcp_services="{ssh 53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn > microsoft-ds}" udp_services="{53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn > microsoft-ds}" > > set skip on lo set loginterface $if scrub in all > > #allow jails through nat on $if inet from $samba_addr to any tag > jail_samba -> $addr nat on $if inet from $dlna_addr to any tag > jail_dlna -> $addr nat on $if inet from $unbound_addr to any tag > jail_unbound -> $addr #portforward to jails. #unbound rdr pass on > $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr port 53 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 53 -> > $unbound_addr port 53 #samba rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to > $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto tcp > from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if > proto tcp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr > pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr > port 445 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 137 -> > $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr > port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any > to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr pass on $if proto udp > from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr port 445 > > #rules pass quick on lo1 pass from igb0:network to any keep state > > #default policy: deny antispoof quick for { $if lo } block in all > #accept TCP ports. pass in on $if proto tcp from any to any port > $tcp_services pass in on $if proto udp from any to any port > $udp_services *** _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 16:08:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148B5AE29A7 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A999D1F97 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 787A93BDF for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/787A93BDF; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:08:13 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dcvvj6pB81jgXhvH0CosoHlgHAsX8R7kQ" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:08:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Dcvvj6pB81jgXhvH0CosoHlgHAsX8R7kQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="dn7Ign3VRMdNn5lq2wD9HsLs9Rp01eRXa" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> In-Reply-To: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> --dn7Ign3VRMdNn5lq2wD9HsLs9Rp01eRXa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/03/29 16:35, Dennis Steinkamp wrote: > - Are OmniOS and FreeBSD are on the same ZFS version (or at least equal= > feature wise) Pretty much, yes. Since the end of the Oracle code, there's hasn't been a version number per-se, but a set of feature flags. Given you're using a system based on OpenZFS code, so long as you have support for the same set of feature flags then you should have compatible functionality. You can see what feature-flags are supported on any system by running 'zpool upgrade -v' -- this is what you get on a recent 10.3-PRERELEASE machine: {{{ % zpool upgrade -v This system supports ZFS pool feature flags. The following features are supported: FEAT DESCRIPTION ------------------------------------------------------------- async_destroy (read-only compatible) Destroy filesystems asynchronously. empty_bpobj (read-only compatible) Snapshots use less space. lz4_compress LZ4 compression algorithm support. multi_vdev_crash_dump Crash dumps to multiple vdev pools. spacemap_histogram (read-only compatible) Spacemaps maintain space histograms. enabled_txg (read-only compatible) Record txg at which a feature is enabled hole_birth Retain hole birth txg for more precise zfs send extensible_dataset Enhanced dataset functionality, used by other features. embedded_data Blocks which compress very well use even less space. bookmarks (read-only compatible) "zfs bookmark" command filesystem_limits (read-only compatible) Filesystem and snapshot limits. large_blocks Support for blocks larger than 128KB. The following legacy versions are also supported: VER DESCRIPTION --- -------------------------------------------------------- 1 Initial ZFS version 2 Ditto blocks (replicated metadata) 3 Hot spares and double parity RAID-Z 4 zpool history 5 Compression using the gzip algorithm 6 bootfs pool property 7 Separate intent log devices 8 Delegated administration 9 refquota and refreservation properties 10 Cache devices 11 Improved scrub performance 12 Snapshot properties 13 snapused property 14 passthrough-x aclinherit 15 user/group space accounting 16 stmf property support 17 Triple-parity RAID-Z 18 Snapshot user holds 19 Log device removal 20 Compression using zle (zero-length encoding) 21 Deduplication 22 Received properties 23 Slim ZIL 24 System attributes 25 Improved scrub stats 26 Improved snapshot deletion performance 27 Improved snapshot creation performance 28 Multiple vdev replacements For more information on a particular version, including supported release= s, see the ZFS Administration Guide. }}} > - Am i able to build a prooduction stable zfs filer with freebsd that > supports zfs snapshots for windows clients the same way OmniOS does. Yes. In fact, for NAS use, take a look at http://www.freenas.org/ which is a project built on FreeBSD and ZFS. Cheers, Matthew --dn7Ign3VRMdNn5lq2wD9HsLs9Rp01eRXa-- --Dcvvj6pB81jgXhvH0CosoHlgHAsX8R7kQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW+qhzXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTntLcQAJI1V9YbQa/KkkuEXn4UXdh3 jI0dLUOzMSYNLGnwTqvwg963tu7Udr2ziZkmtR/Ss+Z1RRb68WpkiMtGvXJE9aeF kGPv7sQw7VmhHWBBzi/E83k5cqihcYed1g7nhvFZCM19ZTzHvuXQuUIld2zQO5KH vxkeAx14cuNA0ginPpxUj01YdxPNq2DkO4JhBXmZYbKJG0LCI3bXzOs7gA79FjFn 13RUU51Jtjuj9vMM04ZczNqs/9lrEc/gq5A76du3Ov80YMrs0Q2tMJjm11BVojNM FmHOdzYTAeQJ4Put5KeeQN+Fit04tSv+SDugRrHjT7FiVQSYEYHvwUaYFC8Uint3 3vIdyvJB3YWrHPDHGgN26PatXkr6BxJKAZktFLrP9ScP/Ty2s7T8nPIji2xFP6Fb NQfk7uL0XxVPLpNMOMDFWhhVN2xR+y3oV4MtKFqtluuO08TZDgFfek6WQA3IR8Pc NQBWzvFmgjU+AljBvwowTON/qN4YBTyRYXzKxuc+/VPkxJgEVOx3EKACcoJ6gqX5 dCTodA9VrediFuyZmBEWJT0ovlG/QG5yN9BvFQR3Deuix2tZFQ3G5iSHax9pbrZ/ 1vSAw8yv3bwdXku8+wmYAkNnlJiEaxLCdJAS2L5pisnfBJhVtQFe8JwE4/uRP9Pg WR3hL86qnO21YPJP07R2 =DIR3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dcvvj6pB81jgXhvH0CosoHlgHAsX8R7kQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 16:39:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15DAAE22E0 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com (mail-ig0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAC8E1287 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id ui10so9671674igc.1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=6IBPcnDzjS//bkup3Oiv07WkAIpqW48hhruDaDUgwII=; b=BbfJEdIRTciWY3AhOpOnuze1wSroF7VbUdWfrtC2Ca47lQ8ClKvGiz66GC/y7lyNxK PhT9ohU64UvkXxyf6/dJ2Z5gXRw87C6NaWUpmK2gJ2MjFpco/2l5uhFLwwYzODy/5WF0 8wxSbFexzAo8qxr51G19G8DY9W7xyVWPtvgXp0RfrLTS+3tEI8FVZXN3XjpVf8f7adgt kdjzjreaBkrTCMdIkb38N7UDV2PnkvFji+K1RJ4UVYRAbMAtkiTsvz9qsB6HZ84iccwp ULDyHBSAZuFJS5d4eMDnAK6qRI3uhzuTE/JK8RGX1IeLENjOKKXAXUKKkxzyT0retT4v IgqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJHL+fbqKAdJj9Ym+9uZO6i+AkWPF0vboXsVSgY4R+HnBp3IZZAdCY4f8BhUQD77Q== X-Received: by 10.50.143.4 with SMTP id sa4mr16987591igb.26.1459269553101; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-133-17.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.133.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o8sm59314igv.18.2016.03.29.09.39.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:39:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Dennis Steinkamp Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" In-reply-to: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:39:10 -0500 Message-ID: <864mbpp7bl.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:39:15 -0000 Dennis Steinkamp writes: > That being said i got a few questions for you guys: > > - Are OmniOS and FreeBSD are on the same ZFS version (or at least equal > feature wise) > - Am i able to build a prooduction stable zfs filer with freebsd that > supports zfs snapshots for windows clients the same way OmniOS does. > You're looking for (a) a web interface users can access; and (b) Windows network mounts. Is that right? Or did I miss something? The current FreeBSD implementation of ZFS does not yet support native SMB/CIFS exports, but it is indeed possible to use SAMBA. As for the web interface, have a look at FreeNAS and NAS4Free. The former is developed by ix Systems; the latter is a community-driven project. Both are built on, yet independent of FreeBSD. FreeNAS is about to release a new version based on FreeBSD 10.3, which (as of today) is the latest production-ready release. And while I didn't look too closely at Napp-it/OmniOS, since it is Illumos-based I would guess it has a slightly newer ZFS/zpool version than FreeBSD does. But I would think FreeBSD almost certainly has everything you would expect to use in your day-to-day. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 16:51:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AA7AE275C for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092151A03 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 20B3761FBB; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:51:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:51:12 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat Message-ID: <20160329165112.GA9259@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:51:14 -0000 Thank your for your explanation. Matthew Seaman [2016-03-29 13:05 +0100] : > Looks like the obhttpd process is trying to kill of its children > individually, but they've all already been killed. Possibly by a signal to > the whole process group. It's untidy, but it has achieved your aim of > killing the obhttpd processes. So there's nothing I must worry about. Maybe I'll take a closer look on it, see whether I can improve the init script, and submit a bug report. > This connection is already closed. You can tell by the question marks. It > only still exists in the sockstat output as the kernel is hanging onto the > connection details so it can reap any stray packets that may, belatedly, > arrive. If you wait patiently, these lines will eventually disappear from > the sockstat output. Or you can just restart the daemon anyhow -- it should > come up normally. So there's nothing to worry about too. Nonetheless, I'm wondering: After more than three hours, the output is still the same? I just started www/obhttpd again and got the following: USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS www obhttpd 9308 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* www obhttpd 9307 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* www obhttpd 9305 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* root syslogd 4654 6 udp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:514 *:* root syslogd 4654 7 udp4 10.15.1.1:514 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* So it seems that www/obhttpd has problems binding again on IPv6 while IPv4 works fine. Stopping and starting again gives me an additional "closed" port on IPv6: USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS www obhttpd 9355 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* www obhttpd 9354 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* www obhttpd 9352 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* root syslogd 4654 6 udp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:514 *:* root syslogd 4654 7 udp4 10.15.1.1:514 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* Something's not working properly here, is it? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 17:24:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CE8AE2D75 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40CE61979 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1akxN0-0007ro-Oc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:23:59 +0200 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:23:58 +0200 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:23:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 483 Message-ID: References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> <56F77C30.5090808@ShaneWare.Biz> Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:24:03 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: > >> I haven't been using one. The Xorg log shows: >> ... > > The fbdev errors are ignorable. Is that the entire log? The Intel > HD3000 should work fine. No - I just started with the first errror messages. I've included the entire log below. > As a start, please describe your hardware. Some notebooks have hybrid > graphics like Optimus which are a problem. If that is not present, > defining just the device in xorg.conf.d might be all that is needed. It's a Lenovo Edge E520 laptop - see below for info from dmesg. Any help is much appreciated. Xorg.0.log: ========== [ 80.043] X.Org X Server 1.17.4 Release Date: 2015-10-28 [ 80.043] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 80.043] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p39 i386 [ 80.043] Current Operating System: FreeBSD anukis.local 9.3-RELEASE-p21 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p21 #0: Tue Jul 28 08:57:41 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 [ 80.043] Build Date: 26 March 2016 03:53:10AM [ 80.043] [ 80.043] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 [ 80.043] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 80.043] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 80.044] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 29 12:53:57 2016 [ 80.129] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 80.151] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 80.151] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 80.151] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 80.151] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [ 80.152] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 80.152] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 80.152] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 80.152] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices [ 80.376] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/local/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/, /usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/ [ 80.376] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" [ 80.376] (II) The server relies on devd to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure devd or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 80.376] (II) Loader magic: 0x8226b40 [ 80.376] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 80.376] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 80.376] X.Org Video Driver: 19.0 [ 80.376] X.Org XInput driver : 21.0 [ 80.376] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0 [ 80.399] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0126:17aa:21e2 rev 9, Mem @ 0xd0000000/4194304, 0xc0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x00005000/64, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 [ 80.400] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 80.457] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 80.629] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 80.629] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 80.629] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0 [ 80.629] (==) AIGLX enabled [ 80.630] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0 [ 80.630] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 1 [ 80.630] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2 [ 80.630] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout [ 80.630] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [ 80.630] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [ 80.665] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 80.665] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 2.21.15 [ 80.665] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 80.665] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0 [ 80.665] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" [ 80.665] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so [ 80.679] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 80.679] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 0.4.4 [ 80.679] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 80.679] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0 [ 80.679] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" [ 80.680] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so [ 80.689] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 80.689] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 2.3.4 [ 80.689] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 80.689] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0 [ 80.689] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics, HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500, HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600, HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100, HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200 [ 80.691] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev [ 80.691] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 80.691] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) [ 80.691] (--) using VT number 9 [ 81.644] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev [ 81.644] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 81.644] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 81.669] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 81.679] (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. [ 81.679] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 81.679] (II) Unloading fbdevhw [ 81.679] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) [ 81.679] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa [ 81.679] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 81.680] (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 [ 81.680] (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 [ 81.680] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888 [ 81.680] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor [ 81.680] (--) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): Relaxed fencing enabled [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): Wait on SwapBuffers? enabled [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): Triple buffering? enabled [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): Framebuffer tiled [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): Pixmaps tiled [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): 3D buffers tiled [ 81.687] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled [ 81.687] (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe [ 81.687] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 has no monitor section [ 81.706] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section [ 81.711] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 has no monitor section [ 81.720] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 has no monitor section [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): EDID for output LVDS1 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: LGD Model: 2e3 Serial#: 0 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Year: 2010 Week: 0 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Digital Display Input [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 19 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): No DPMS capabilities specified [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): redX: 0.613 redY: 0.371 greenX: 0.350 greenY: 0.606 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): blueX: 0.152 blueY: 0.099 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Supported detailed timing: [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): clock: 70.0 MHz Image Size: 344 x 194 mm [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): h_active: 1366 h_sync: 1402 h_sync_end 1450 h_blank_end 1492 h_border: 0 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 771 v_sync_end 776 v_blanking: 782 v_border: 0 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): LG Display [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): LP156WH4-TLB1 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): EDID (in hex): [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 00ffffffffffff0030e4e30200000000 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 00140103802213780a09159d5f599b27 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 19505400000001010101010101010101 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 010101010101581b567e50000e302430 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 350058c2100000190000000000000000 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 4720446973706c61790a2020000000fe [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): 004c503135365748342d544c42310001 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (doublescan mode not supported) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output LVDS1 [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1366x768"x60.0 70.00 1366 1402 1450 1492 768 771 776 782 -hsync -vsync (46.9 kHz eP) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz d) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz d) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz d) [ 81.732] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz d) [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: EPI Model: e781 Serial#: 4909 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Year: 2002 Week: 30 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Sync: Separate [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 27 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): redX: 0.640 redY: 0.347 greenX: 0.302 greenY: 0.587 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): blueX: 0.143 blueY: 0.099 whiteX: 0.321 whiteY: 0.338 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Supported established timings: [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 720x400@70Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 640x480@60Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 640x480@67Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 640x480@72Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 640x480@75Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 800x600@56Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 800x600@60Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 800x600@72Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 800x600@75Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 832x624@75Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@60Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@70Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 1024x768@75Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 1280x1024@75Hz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Supported detailed timing: [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): clock: 135.0 MHz Image Size: 340 x 270 mm [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1296 h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): v_active: 1024 v_sync: 1025 v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Serial No: T7KB27AG04909 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Ranges: V min: 55 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 135 MHz [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Monitor name: EN-7100s [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): EDID (in hex): [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 00ffffffffffff00160981e72d130000 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 1e0c010368221b782af596a3584d9624 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 195256bfef0001010101010101010101 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 010101010101bc34009851002a401090 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 1300540e11000018000000ff0054374b [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 42323741473034393039000000fd0037 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 4b1e500d000a202020202020000000fc [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): 00454e2d37313030730a2020202000ea [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA1 [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 -hsync -vsync (80.0 kHz eP) [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz e) [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.1 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz e) [ 81.751] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x66.7 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e) [ 81.752] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz e) [ 81.756] (II) intel(0): EDID for output HDMI1 [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): EDID for output DP1 [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 connected [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 connected [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 disconnected [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 disconnected [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Using fuzzy aspect match for initial modes [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 using initial mode 1024x768 [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 using initial mode 1024x768 [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. [ 81.765] (II) intel(0): Kernel page flipping support detected, enabling [ 81.765] (==) intel(0): DPI set to (96, 96) [ 81.765] (II) Loading sub module "fb" [ 81.765] (II) LoadModule: "fb" [ 81.765] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so [ 81.782] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 81.782] compiled for 1.17.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 81.782] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 [ 81.782] (II) Loading sub module "dri2" [ 81.782] (II) LoadModule: "dri2" [ 81.782] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in [ 81.782] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" [ 81.782] (II) Unloading fbdev [ 81.782] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" [ 81.782] (II) Unloading vesa [ 81.782] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp [ 81.782] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [ 81.782] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: i965 [ 81.782] (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1024x768 stride 4096, tiled [ 81.827] (II) UXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: [ 81.827] (II) solid [ 81.827] (II) copy [ 81.827] (II) composite (RENDER acceleration) [ 81.827] (II) put_image [ 81.827] (II) get_image [ 81.836] (==) intel(0): Backing store enabled [ 81.836] (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled [ 81.837] (II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor [ 81.837] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. [ 81.850] (==) intel(0): DPMS enabled [ 81.850] (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder enabled [ 81.850] (II) intel(0): Set up textured video [ 81.851] (II) intel(0): [XvMC] xvmc_vld driver initialized. [ 81.851] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled [ 82.163] (--) RandR disabled dmesg output: ============= Copyright (c) 1992-2014 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p21 #0: Tue Jul 28 08:57:41 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz (2494.39-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x206a7 Family = 0x6 Model = 0x2a Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x17bae3bf AMD Features=0x28100000 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3048456192 (2907 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 SMT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 cryptosoft0: on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 20000000, 200000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 40000000, 200000 (3) failed cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 550 Event timer "HPET1" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440 Event timer "HPET2" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440 Event timer "HPET3" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440 Event timer "HPET4" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 atrtc0: Warning: Couldn't map I/O. Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: port 0x5000-0x503f mem 0xd0000000-0xd03fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: aperture size is 256M, detected 65532k stolen memory vgapci0: Boot video device pci0: at device 22.0 (no driver attached) ehci0: mem 0xd260a000-0xd260a3ff irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 usbus0: EHCI version 1.0 usbus0 on ehci0 hdac0: mem 0xd2600000-0xd2603fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 re0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xd0404000-0xd0404fff,0xd0400000-0xd0403fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2 re0: Using 1 MSI-X message re0: ASPM disabled re0: Chip rev. 0x2c000000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00200000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow re0: Ethernet address: f0:de:f1:e1:73:7c pcib3: irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0 pci8: on pcib4 iwn0: mem 0xd1d00000-0xd1d01fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci8 pcib5: irq 19 at device 28.7 on pci0 pci9: on pcib5 ehci1: mem 0xd2609000-0xd26093ff irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 usbus1 on ehci1 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahci0: port 0x5088-0x508f,0x5094-0x5097,0x5080-0x5087,0x5090-0x5093,0x5060-0x507f mem 0xd2608000-0xd26087ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 6 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich4: at channel 4 on ahci0 ahcich5: at channel 5 on ahci0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_ibm0: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ata0: at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1: at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 est2: on cpu2 p4tcc2: on cpu2 est3: on cpu3 p4tcc3: on cpu3 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hdacc0: at cad 0 on hdac0 hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 pcm0: at nid 31 and 27 on hdaa0 pcm1: at nid 25 and 35 on hdaa0 hdacc1: at cad 3 on hdac0 hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 pcm2: at nid 5 on hdaa1 usbus0: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ACPI Error: No handler for Region [ECRM] (0xc7c113c0) [EmbeddedControl] (20110527/evregion-421) ACPI Error: Region EmbeddedControl (ID=3) has no handler (20110527/exfldio-310) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\134_TZ_.RDEC] (Node 0xc7babb20), AE_NOT_EXIST (20110527/psparse-560) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\134_TZ_.TZS0._TMP] (Node 0xc7babac0), AE_NOT_EXIST (20110527/psparse-560) ACPI Error: No handler for Region [ECRM] (0xc7c11500) [EmbeddedControl] (20110527/evregion-421) ACPI Error: Region EmbeddedControl (ID=3) has no handler (20110527/exfldio-310) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\134_TZ_.MDEC] (Node 0xc7babb00), AE_NOT_EXIST (20110527/psparse-560) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\134_TZ_.TZS0._SCP] (Node 0xc7baba80), AE_NOT_EXIST (20110527/psparse-560) ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: Serial Number J3350080GM11TC ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 1H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad4 cd0 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: Serial Number S45N7592Z1ZKBE01AG4L cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 8192bytes) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1247194466 Hz quality 1000 Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 ugen0.2: at usbus0 uhub2: on usbus0 ugen1.2: at usbus1 uhub3: on usbus1 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 ugen0.3: at usbus0 uhub4: on usbus0 ugen1.3: at usbus1 ukbd0: on usbus1 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: on usbus1 ums0: 16 buttons and [XYZT] coordinates ID=2 uhid0: on usbus1 uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ugen0.4: at usbus0 ukbd1: on usbus0 kbd3 at ukbd1 Root mount waiting for: usbus0 Root mount waiting for: usbus0 ugen0.5: at usbus0 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s3a [rw]... ACPI Error: No handler for Region [ECRM] (0xc7c11540) [EmbeddedControl] (20110527/evregion-421) ACPI Error: Region EmbeddedControl (ID=3) has no handler (20110527/exfldio-310) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\134_TZ_.RDEC] (Node 0xc7babb20), AE_NOT_EXIST (20110527/psparse-560) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\134_TZ_.TZS0._TMP] (Node 0xc7babac0), AE_NOT_EXIST (20110527/psparse-560) acpi_tz0: error fetching current temperature -- AE_NOT_EXIST wlan0: Ethernet address: 74:e5:0b:db:0e:20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 18:38:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5494AE2E2A for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.fisglobal.com", Issuer "Symantec Class 3 Secure Server CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 864D11049 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpsa01.fnfis.com (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with ESMTPS id u2TI55s0015266 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:05:23 -0500 Received: from [10.242.182.122] (10.242.182.122) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.266.1; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:05:23 -0500 Reply-To: Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> To: From: "Robison, Dave" Message-ID: <56FAC3E4.3030108@fisglobal.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:05:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.242.182.122] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-03-29_06:, , signatures=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:38:03 -0000 On 03/28/16 06:53 PM, anonymous wrote: > > i like french food but NOT french top down control - it gives me a stomach ache > > BSD is a california product why is "it in colorado" with controller "in france". that's rhetorical but i dont like your answer nor do i beleive it. to hell if anyone but usa is "leading AT&T breed BSD, usc" - go takeover linux again start another linux war. > > ----------------------- > > (i sound harsh to some, but i'm a pushover mostly) > > but then if i was, i should be harsh when those who are un-initiated are being pushed aside is that right ? > > thank you have a good day We have missed you, Mark V. Shaney! -- Dave Robison Senior Business Systems Analyst FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 18:43:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2696AE2FE8 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC5B31438 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id a129so34103354ioe.0 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=7HbM/g4QDYSG1DqHyE+D309Ft1jY5bJkIeEbkH+49i0=; b=GCOMd+cRYfwMjoEMyeURMmRJE/N5diG0MsOrqQowDhQNRMu2BBHIUiAFl6RGFzGwhj /+jgMQ/GR1rWg45kDmo2mEEAtR+ukhDI0CcHGxYS3OXYSgtU+j7ygBHbbD4Ul1FbxtF2 8bjxZMB/9vA2qPulHh0sC0GuPQOkMheLvcM3SezwzHY67zFmp/WYp1JNX+LNybXsZS8i 6bCPsMiDn0PzSMDtfZ/AsYUhfqVXe1v/Jm9PH+gDOgDvUQp42Sefa5RbFcmD1plRQFDe aPdU6cQLflblZ7ZwgC6poGtS69sv55kXTH8fDDv6fdbbPcI/E/q/J85f4LydX0pzvfT4 1m0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to; bh=7HbM/g4QDYSG1DqHyE+D309Ft1jY5bJkIeEbkH+49i0=; b=c9/uqd2wCJ9TjuxLblOQkFfMPfMiIrm5zTiItPgg04mIxiS1ILwPQLaEiN3Yvs9EPM McpNL2egMqexEwgkaxqX5IwqU78zEbvXtL6ch9H1v9zVksjs8C34c7bt/WKpWwl7Od52 6EWhCPIBdRu55hxtH2BkLexJOMRKrxh+naI4DvDu5qImO4vUfINqNEwOZOnxqxOsZopZ yk0Y9izyUOwTr3is792nbEqCCHjlKWu9MnbUDVwo+6G/Ywpxp2ARUvA+5TFpcXvjlTp7 B8HYiRbJ7WJY270sPoPsa5Dy3Q3p/Vn7mb3zVd4+cfFjFyxluKupTiVFDZTgeSFRvgoA Go5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIR86ZKQBBiDNjzJEox+u3pqAAYcF4oQcAmwPSm098IbEW5rH2WiLj3IA7KIQFd/ZOuNzN51MDETEj36g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.221.87 with SMTP id u84mr2128382oig.93.1459276977962; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.226.200 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:42:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mYyL9QCofg6Lww789imxYP-8Hg4 Message-ID: Subject: AIO Enabled? From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:43:00 -0000 Hi all, I found old mail threads and blog posts (circa 2006 - 2010) that stated AIO is not enabled by default in FreeBSD. However, when running strings on the kernel, it appears AIO bits may be available... $ sudo strings -n3 /boot/kernel/kernel | grep -i aio aio_swake freebsd32_aio_read freebsd32_aio_write freebsd32_aio_return freebsd32_aio_suspend freebsd32_aio_cancel freebsd32_aio_error freebsd32_oaio_read freebsd32_oaio_write freebsd32_aio_waitcomplete freebsd32_aio_fsync freebsd32_aio_mlock AIOSTOP: bad channel 0x%x AIOSYNC chan 0x%03lx pos %lu unimplemented AIONWRITE AIOGSIZE AIOSSIZE AIOGFMT AIOSFMT AIOGMIX AIOSMIX AIOSTOP AIOSYNC AIOGCAP nfsaio aio_prio_delta_max aio_max aio_listio_max aio(4) states it can be linked in the kernel using options VFS_AIO or dynamically using loader.conf or kldload suggesting it still is not enabled by default. This brings me to a couple questions I hope are easily answered. 1) Is AIO still disabled by default in FreeBSD 10.x and newer? 2) Does strings send the same output above to STDOUT irregardless of whether AIO is enabled/disabled? Thanks. -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 19:09:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69FAE2712 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9AFB11ED for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2TJ9Wpt051580 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:09:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u2TJ9WJF051577; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:09:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:09:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: gyliamos@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> <56F77C30.5090808@ShaneWare.Biz> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:09:32 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:09:35 -0000 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: >> >>> I haven't been using one. The Xorg log shows: >>> ... >> >> The fbdev errors are ignorable. Is that the entire log? The Intel >> HD3000 should work fine. > > No - I just started with the first errror messages. I've included the > entire log below. > >> As a start, please describe your hardware. Some notebooks have hybrid >> graphics like Optimus which are a problem. If that is not present, >> defining just the device in xorg.conf.d might be all that is needed. > > It's a Lenovo Edge E520 laptop - see below for info from dmesg. > Any help is much appreciated. Specs from the web don't indicate any hybrid graphics, which is good news. The log file does not have any obvious problems. Please make sure there are no old xorg.conf files in /etc/X11/ or /usr/local/etc/X11/. Nothing more should be required, but it would do no harm to manually set a Device as shown here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html#x-config-video-cards-file-intel Probably also a good idea to use vt(4) in case the black screen is due to X exiting. In /boot/loader.conf, add kern.vty=vt That only takes effect after a reboot. Finally, check the contents of .xinitrc and .xsession for unexpected things. Neither is required. Test X with just startx. Don't try to use display managers like xdm or gdm yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 19:54:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F74AE2335 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin242@f242.toozaizai.com) Received: from f242.toozaizai.com (f242.toozaizai.com [161.123.213.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D2510FB for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin242@f242.toozaizai.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=toozaizai; d=f242.toozaizai.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Type; i=admin242@f242.toozaizai.com; bh=WICXGv90IMI9U+ki8i+A/SSx0G0=; b=TQPvQ4XWxZN4ULM8L7PN1o4YEPGDFpoSG2NCmuCHXdWaIzcgjL8twRgyZwqbZYyVLQ1bsgCgoBQf 369H5zf+oMLEdh3Ezzg8r4wps5wDLGmW/AuO7GcDtzaEhymp1970cbTV7lPRl+dtOS5Q4vWrAqjp NbfJvA9Leb9QkHOeohU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=toozaizai; d=f242.toozaizai.com; b=aXhlbr1+qy+nLdYGMqcvonmFYkfaffL3joDPHG6+EGvpAT2zb6/scai41jjKoiuF2tABVMwEIhPk C0S6g6JErktjOgpRlOu/6Io4rCthJlqfJbOUt3OX0MmH82pn2s9q6Cu6uR7+NerRmfJNlpIaO8SP t+ktaoWOL0G9bl0nHdY=; Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:44:59 +0800 From: "Rayban" To: Subject: Rayban Sunglasses is the global leader in premium eyewear market Message-ID: <20160330034507353161@f242.toozaizai.com> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 13, 102, 15 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:54:48 -0000 DQoNCllvdSdyZSByZWNlaXZpbmcgdGhpcyBuZXdzbGV0dGVyIGJlY2F1c2UgeW91IHN1YnNjcmli ZWQgZnJvbSBvdXIgd2Vic2l0ZS4NCkhhdmluZyB0cm91YmxlIHJlYWRpbmcgdGhpcyBlbWFpbD8g VmlldyBpdCBpbiB5b3VyIGJyb3dzZXIuIE5vdCBpbnRlcmVzdGVkIGFueW1vcmU/IFVuc3Vic2Ny aWJlIGluc3RhbnRseS4gDQoNCiAgRlJFRSBTSElQUElORyAqICBGcmVlIFJldHVybiAqIA0KDQoN CkJlc3QgU2VsbGVycyBDb2xsZWN0aW9ucyBKdWxpZXQgT3ZhbCBGcmFtZSBUeXBlcyBDb21taXQg U3EgRmFzdCBKYWNrZXQgTmV3IEFycml2YWxzIA0KDQpEaXNjb3VudCBSYXkgQmFuIFN1bmdsYXNz ZXMgDQpXZWxjb21lIHRvIG15IHN1bmdsYXNzZXMgc3RvcmUgDQo4MCANCg0KRVZFUllUSElORyAN CiVPRkYgDQoNClBMVVMgJDgwRlJFRSBTSElQSU5HIE9OIEFMTE9SREVSUyANCk9ha2xleSBTdW5n bGFzcyANClJheSBCYW4gU3VuZ2xhc3MgDQoNCg0KDQoNClByaXZhY3kgUG9saWN5IFNoaXBwaW5n IFJldHVybnMgQ29uZGl0aW9ucyBvZiBVc2UgDQoNCg0KDQpUbyBiZSBzdXJlIHRoYXQgeW91IHdp bGwgcmVjZWl2ZSBvdXIgb2ZmZXJzLCB3ZSBzdWdnZXN0IHRoYXQgeW91IGFkZCBvdXIgZW1haWwg YWRkcmVzcywgY3VzdG9tZXJzZXJ2aWNlMjRob3VyQGhvdG1haWwuY29tIHRvIHlvdXIgYWRkcmVz cyBib29rLiBJbiBhY2NvcmRhbmNlIHdpdGggdGhlIEZyZW5jaCBsYXcgb2YgSmFudWFyeSA2LCAx OTc4LCBjb3JyZWN0IGFueSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBoZWxkIGJ5IDIwMTVzdW5nbGFzc3ZpcC5jb20g dGhhdCBjb25jZXJucyB5b3UuIA0KDQpPdXIgcHJvbWlzZXM6DQoNCi0gMTAwIGRheXMgdG8gcmV0 dXJuIG9yIGV4Y2hhbmdlIGFuIGl0ZW0NCi0gU2FtZS1kYXkgZGlzcGF0Y2ggZm9yIG9yZGVycyBw bGFjZWQgYmVmb3JlIDcgRGF5cy4qDQotIEN1c3RvbWVyIHNhdGlzZmFjdGlvbiBpcyBvdXIgdG9w IHByaW9yaXR5IA0KDQpidXlpbmcgYSBnaWZ0LCBvciBsb29raW5nIGZvciBhIHByYWN0aWNhbCBw YWlyIG9mIHN1bmdsYXNzZXMsIHlvdSdyZSBzdXJlIHRvIGZpbmQgd2hhdCB5b3UncmUgYWZ0ZXIg aW4gUkIgb25saW5lIHN0b3JlIGh1Z2Ugc2VsZWN0aW9uLiB0b3AgZmFzaGlvbiBzZWxlY3Rpb24u IFdoZXRoZXIgeW91J3JlIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIHRoZSBsYXRlc3QgdHJlbmRzIG9yIHRpbWVsZXNz IGNsYXNzaWNzLCAyMDE1c3VuZ2xhc3N2aXAgb2ZmZXJzIGh1bmRyZWRzIG9mIGVzdGFibGlzaGVk IHByb2R1Y3QgbGlrZSBzdW5nbGFzc2VzIGp1c3QgZm9yIHlvdS4gDQoNCipUd2VudHktZm91ciBo b3VycyBhIGRheSwgZGVwZW5kZW50IHVwb24gcGF5bWVudCB2YWxpZGF0aW9uDQoqU2VlIHRlcm1z IGFuZCBjb25kaXRpb25zIA0KDQoNCkNvcHlyaWdodCAyMDA5LTIwMTUgUmF5IEJhbiBTdW5nbGFz c2VzIEFsbCBSaWdodHMgUmVzZXJ2ZWQuIA== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 20:11:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8E8AE2C9E for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3A71482 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 82F9961FA6; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:11:02 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Variables substitution in jail.conf Message-ID: <20160329201102.GA1256@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:11:04 -0000 I am experimenting with jail.conf, trying to automate everything as much as I can. I would like to execute pfctl commands automatically once a jail is started or stopped; that is, adding the IP of the jail to a table that passes connection and deleting it again once it's no longer needed. This is my jail.conf: host.hostname = "$name.box-fra-01.klaas"; path = "/usr/local/jails/$name"; ip4.addr = "lo1|10.15.$network.$id"; ip6.addr = "vtnet0|2a00:XXX:XXXX:XXXX:X::$network:$id"; mount = "/usr/local/jails/templates/base-10.2-RELEASE /usr/local/jails/$name/ nullfs ro 0 0"; mount += "/usr/local/jails/thinjails/$name /usr/local/jails/$name/jail nullfs rw 0 0"; mount.devfs; exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; exec.clean; www { $id = 1; $network = 1; exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete {$ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; } However, I get an error that ip6 is not defined. I have already realised that pfctl will give an error (because ip{4,6}.addr includes {lo1,vtnet0}) but what I do not understand is why the parameter is not recognised. I also tried setting things up with additional variables my_ip4 and my_ip6 but that didn't work either. After reading jail.conf(5) I thought about putting everything in hierarchical jails but I am not sure whether that will help to make substitution work the way I want it to. I am happy for any advise. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 20:15:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD4AAE2FFB for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danilo.walterino@yahoo.fr) Received: from nm45-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm45-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23EC31990 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danilo.walterino@yahoo.fr) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1459282511; bh=SjeGgivIg/UBBz7Pjz+xYfSPPcBIPbxCvR62dlfzxxc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=YI9Ocodx/kXfLUucHxLb007LwAiiUfclytyz3tul6nz8e9+NiC2j9vnoA3vvyMu9TIpXGVF5yxtg4il1Tnp8ZxXlXNJY8s7PkMRyD0P5YTdCooZ+Hgy4rQWZIdv5Jeet0QdvMTH9/8YglcSw0MmUtbPXiEzLtAKGUOWcSgStuGDURzlyS48oTvdfzMq8RVh+uiYV2tXtIYuRcQAdXsB17DkpgH8Enf3tieGppJl8qYNcaegSWPSAa/gE1xyjUcQy+ZTjEFsx5Neyanqr6n0uXK81ewHj1O57C/R+WbZSjlkrOXE3aTdfD8T/yPzeryxanfor5Gm/qWfdRMwOvlAgXg== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm45.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2016 20:15:11 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.189] by nm45.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2016 19:47:19 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.125] by tm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2016 19:47:19 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.82] by tm18.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2016 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2016 19:47:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 909380.77217.bm@omp1019.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: XnVEAQEVM1n2iMHPizqsxmk0fJ7dLtRgmTomJoToreWrz7yZ5.7VXQSM7FiEmW3 rFyweYG816awuVKL0sCuCc89CZdQbrrlp0nvyB.BSGOThC68oSEAVmc0ZKWEXEfCKWlYOj9oo1u. AD3Wdlvf4qdPQLzEKypwnK1EHDc0xyQaQnPXQInBF9lDWpIMGhg4Be6AUUFM6rK0sH4Hvr42hmYJ .SiI8cbUP6gvN9fT0Z.2YgClFd2KnT59nNAlMGcHox17j1FgkNE56XL9H99q1dN4io1cvyTkbPsB kRFh1mktsMXG0PZQtKDVo6GYYBVtS9zy9TSmMrGThpnOPI6yV6ee1MEGuWPgLy3QdunYoPCckBo2 dgp1vxiTvNogkZxIO_Tx9poqhVjS46ANFn0NpgUkDsT.lHjVoGWFvyi0zsgN3KRkZUxOeWSIptKQ 9nhYKAT0rsk3j_kRcqKztihTHfOdJrFpoPk0Xqdi7SV_713uN0ciVL1ECqwBQpRsEvxTkpvIxgwa NVrfu0Ojmc4pB2Dcd7ot.5ch2pw-- Received: by 217.12.9.12; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:47:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:47:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Reply-To: To: Message-ID: <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: partition boot problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:15:19 -0000 Hello ! Here is the problem I encounter: I recently mounted a freebsd partition in rw mode by mistake under openbsd and since I can no longer boot freebsd.I can only mount partition and list files UNDER OpenBSD and that's all.I tried fsck_ufs without any options (from freebsd livecd) without success and I can't mount the partition anymore(from freebsd). May be someone meet the same problem and has solved it.Thanks for any help ! message of fsck: "invalid disklabel, segmentation fault" when I try to mount (from freebsd livecd): "Failed to read ROOTINO directory block 13280 cannot read blk: 320 unexpected soft update inconsistency" <=== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 20:53:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F106AE29E7 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 654561E15 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1al0e2-0007B8-RT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:53:47 +0200 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:53:46 +0200 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:53:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 82 Message-ID: References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> <56F77C30.5090808@ShaneWare.Biz> Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:53:51 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: > >> Warren Block wrote: >>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: >>> >>>> I haven't been using one. The Xorg log shows: >>>> ... >>> >>> The fbdev errors are ignorable. Is that the entire log? The Intel >>> HD3000 should work fine. >> >> No - I just started with the first errror messages. I've included the >> entire log below. >> >>> As a start, please describe your hardware. Some notebooks have hybrid >>> graphics like Optimus which are a problem. If that is not present, >>> defining just the device in xorg.conf.d might be all that is needed. >> >> It's a Lenovo Edge E520 laptop - see below for info from dmesg. >> Any help is much appreciated. > > Specs from the web don't indicate any hybrid graphics, which is good > news. The log file does not have any obvious problems. > > Please make sure there are no old xorg.conf files in /etc/X11/ or > /usr/local/etc/X11/. Nothing more should be required, but it would do > no harm to manually set a Device as shown here: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html#x-config-video-cards-file-intel I double-checked, but there wasn't. I created the file /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/driver-intel.conf as per the handbook, but without success. One other thing I tried (I don't know why this didn't occur to me before) was to disconnect the external monitor I usually use. But again, I just got a black screen, this time on the built-in display. > Probably also a good idea to use vt(4) in case the black screen is due > to X exiting. In /boot/loader.conf, add > kern.vty=vt I had already added that, but is there any way of verifying it has taken effect? The line "Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)" looks suspicious to me. > That only takes effect after a reboot. > > Finally, check the contents of .xinitrc and .xsession for unexpected > things. Neither is required. There is no .xsession and the .xinitrc I've been using is pretty straight-forward: ================================= if [ -f $HOME/.Xmodmap ] then xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap fi if [ -f $HOME/.Xresources ] then xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources fi if [ -f $HOME/.xbindkeysrc ] then xbindkeys fi exec wmaker ================================= I tried temporarily renaming it, but no change to symptoms. > Test X with just startx. Don't try to use display managers like xdm or > gdm yet. I do that anyway. -- Will From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 21:34:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A00DAE23F2 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjuanino@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18D7F1215 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjuanino@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ob0-x231.google.com with SMTP id m7so27786853obh.3 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:34:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=aaohf4bi9Ddl90VWzpdKBoLP61BnTY6YqaBKFfP4q48=; b=QVROgVXNAVybrBvRDh91GH5wp2q8rLBf+C96NsEczEX1gXjNOfc5pVj9eI9S9+mndp fzYiJWZ8UHLCj+bMD9FM9nOJzVaG7VFS1XRc0bihWA6RhA+HaBrcsEzTMDEe8NygeUEQ ofnAtHQhoL/gr5WP5mVfkjDIPGY7e+PMpLACcQsYjwF2bTWH+C2x/r8woKp6JR10W0sD um7MioQaQ+KGuRCaXpRdJ5p+uEu6oKnbpSPstDJKpFdBeA1qsNoDGLU9yliRxBzQEIAd D7W1qhHzr9bYXF7VmyFtiQfMU2Pj8Ba/UHBRSpD2G60p9eka4JmZf68Pj88VCLgOraTN 41sQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=aaohf4bi9Ddl90VWzpdKBoLP61BnTY6YqaBKFfP4q48=; b=MnuTa5ojQXAaMpQeonqBYMFgQroMwbAi9rIRCS5opfJD0bqyA0qIg9yt6z2obhUjXs SmaS5lQ2C6mCkmK5dW/mwbmo/wOM7hqN76j4VqPl/GiH8sMywmztYgZtWzZ6HXUDQKs5 Lievqp4zlE7LES5p4Z3Qn2kiZg5RL0LH0hW1lfu+oe3pwDz8rxAU4cxW2JRpC0UlG3cc pDHdLb+b1ONyee+EsCyKht96BGtRX7o564nAEpCJQ23sDRSxe1KckS4X+KmaKfKdAE6F mNb1ZdhAXRQOMseN4ge43cjGX4io2Pib0JRjJqGADEc5fyUhXUCFlPVv5PLMrRRdcQ7+ zaaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJImmLWoGE6fdXb5gQs72UqPlitmTJyKv4TBHtWCvSE5qCLj0PvtycN5PFC0ZE3yW/Z+epNPSm6o1G2x5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.207.151 with SMTP id f145mr2422760oig.44.1459287269189; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.175.13 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:34:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: fetchmail service do not stop cleanly;it ignores TERM signal From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR2FyY8OtYSBKdWFuaW5v?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:34:33 -0000 Hi, I have noticed that fetchmail service hangs in stop phase. I have the following in rc.conf: fetchmail_enable="YES" fetchmail_users="juanino" fetchmail_juanino_polling_interval=60 When I have to restart the service, it hangs forever: # service fetchmail restart ===> fetchmail user: juanino Stopping fetchmail. Waiting for PIDS: 9284 The only way to stop the service is to send the INT (or KILL) signal: # pkill -INT fetchmail It seems to be that is ignoring TERM (or HUP) signal. Ugly workaround: echo "sig_stop=\"INT\" " > /etc/rc.conf.d/fetchmail to force the INT signal instead of TERM. The same issue applies to some other services as polipo. It is not clear for me if this issue is freebsd specific. Any idea? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 21:43:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B82BAE261B for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from mx-relay10.cloudservice.ag (mx-relay10.cloudservice.ag [81.20.94.213]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 098FA16C3 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from fw1.hostedoffice.ag ([81.20.90.82]) by mx-gate10.cloudservice.ag; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:42:17 +0200 Received: from EX10HUB3.hosting.inetserver.de (unknown [10.20.10.71]) by qhexrelay1.hosting.inetserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DF2175C63 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.153] (80.128.239.26) by mail.hostedoffice.ag (10.20.10.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:40:03 +0200 Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> From: Dennis Steinkamp Message-ID: <56FAF6B6.9070300@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:42:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [80.128.239.26] X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: e299f49b-79fd-4cde-afcd-99df35de8a6e X-hostedoffice-tnef: done X-cloud-security-sender: dennis@lightandshadow.tv X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate10 with 8BF0D480016 X-cloud-security-connect: fw1.hostedoffice.ag[81.20.90.82], TLS=0, IP=81.20.90.82 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2107 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:43:05 -0000 Thank you for your reply. Yeah, i know about FreeNAS and it`s great dont get me wrong but its often a little bit behind the most recent freebsd versions and i`d like to do this in a more "puristic" approach. I always thought that FreeNAS doesn`t support snapshots through previous versions properly. Did that change in any way with Samba4? Am 29.03.2016 um 18:08 schrieb Matthew Seaman: > On 2016/03/29 16:35, Dennis Steinkamp wrote: >> - Are OmniOS and FreeBSD are on the same ZFS version (or at least equal >> feature wise) > Pretty much, yes. Since the end of the Oracle code, there's hasn't been > a version number per-se, but a set of feature flags. Given you're using > a system based on OpenZFS code, so long as you have support for the same > set of feature flags then you should have compatible functionality. > > You can see what feature-flags are supported on any system by running > 'zpool upgrade -v' -- this is what you get on a recent 10.3-PRERELEASE > machine: > > {{{ > % zpool upgrade -v > This system supports ZFS pool feature flags. > > The following features are supported: > > FEAT DESCRIPTION > ------------------------------------------------------------- > async_destroy (read-only compatible) > Destroy filesystems asynchronously. > empty_bpobj (read-only compatible) > Snapshots use less space. > lz4_compress > LZ4 compression algorithm support. > multi_vdev_crash_dump > Crash dumps to multiple vdev pools. > spacemap_histogram (read-only compatible) > Spacemaps maintain space histograms. > enabled_txg (read-only compatible) > Record txg at which a feature is enabled > hole_birth > Retain hole birth txg for more precise zfs send > extensible_dataset > Enhanced dataset functionality, used by other features. > embedded_data > Blocks which compress very well use even less space. > bookmarks (read-only compatible) > "zfs bookmark" command > filesystem_limits (read-only compatible) > Filesystem and snapshot limits. > large_blocks > Support for blocks larger than 128KB. > > The following legacy versions are also supported: > > VER DESCRIPTION > --- -------------------------------------------------------- > 1 Initial ZFS version > 2 Ditto blocks (replicated metadata) > 3 Hot spares and double parity RAID-Z > 4 zpool history > 5 Compression using the gzip algorithm > 6 bootfs pool property > 7 Separate intent log devices > 8 Delegated administration > 9 refquota and refreservation properties > 10 Cache devices > 11 Improved scrub performance > 12 Snapshot properties > 13 snapused property > 14 passthrough-x aclinherit > 15 user/group space accounting > 16 stmf property support > 17 Triple-parity RAID-Z > 18 Snapshot user holds > 19 Log device removal > 20 Compression using zle (zero-length encoding) > 21 Deduplication > 22 Received properties > 23 Slim ZIL > 24 System attributes > 25 Improved scrub stats > 26 Improved snapshot deletion performance > 27 Improved snapshot creation performance > 28 Multiple vdev replacements > > For more information on a particular version, including supported releases, > see the ZFS Administration Guide. > > }}} > >> - Am i able to build a prooduction stable zfs filer with freebsd that >> supports zfs snapshots for windows clients the same way OmniOS does. > Yes. > > In fact, for NAS use, take a look at http://www.freenas.org/ which is a > project built on FreeBSD and ZFS. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 21:47:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65980AE2749 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from mx-relay23.cloudservice.ag (mx-relay23.cloudservice.ag [46.235.240.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC871182B for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from fw1.hostedoffice.ag ([81.20.90.82]) by mx-gate23.cloudservice.ag; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:46:31 +0200 Received: from EX10HUB2.hosting.inetserver.de (unknown [10.20.10.70]) by qhexrelay1.hosting.inetserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E3D175C70; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:46:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.153] (80.128.239.26) by mail.hostedoffice.ag (10.20.10.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:44:16 +0200 Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: Brandon J.Wandersee References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> <864mbpp7bl.fsf@WorkBox.Home> CC: From: Dennis Steinkamp Message-ID: <56FAF7B3.5020605@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:46:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864mbpp7bl.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [80.128.239.26] X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: e299f49b-79fd-4cde-afcd-99df35de8a6e X-hostedoffice-tnef: done X-cloud-security-sender: dennis@lightandshadow.tv X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate23 with BFCBB11200DE X-cloud-security-connect: fw1.hostedoffice.ag[81.20.90.82], TLS=0, IP=81.20.90.82 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1349 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:47:05 -0000 I don`t need the convenience of a web interface like nappit or freenas offers. In fact i see it as an oppurtunity to learn more about zfs when i don`t have the comfort of a nice and clean web interface. Can you poiunt me in any specific direction of how to get this done through FreeBSD and Samba4? I assume it doesn`T work out of the box and there is some special configuration required? Do i need to export the snapshots directory as a samba share to make this work or are there any special configuration directives i need to consider? Thank you guys Denni Am 29.03.2016 um 18:39 schrieb Brandon J.Wandersee: > Dennis Steinkamp writes: > >> That being said i got a few questions for you guys: >> >> - Are OmniOS and FreeBSD are on the same ZFS version (or at least equal >> feature wise) >> - Am i able to build a prooduction stable zfs filer with freebsd that >> supports zfs snapshots for windows clients the same way OmniOS does. >> > You're looking for (a) a web interface users can access; and (b) Windows > network mounts. Is that right? Or did I miss something? > > The current FreeBSD implementation of ZFS does not yet support native > SMB/CIFS exports, but it is indeed possible to use SAMBA. As for the web > interface, have a look at FreeNAS and NAS4Free. The former is developed > by ix Systems; the latter is a community-driven project. Both are built > on, yet independent of FreeBSD. FreeNAS is about to release a new > version based on FreeBSD 10.3, which (as of today) is the latest > production-ready release. > > And while I didn't look too closely at Napp-it/OmniOS, since it is > Illumos-based I would guess it has a slightly newer ZFS/zpool version > than FreeBSD does. But I would think FreeBSD almost certainly has > everything you would expect to use in your day-to-day. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 21:59:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C7FAE2BAE for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E41E01F2F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 574333D5B for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/574333D5B; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20160329165112.GA9259@box.niklaas.eu> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56FAFACF.5040404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:59:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160329165112.GA9259@box.niklaas.eu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6LeltB7WpCQuPV9AUgNAuxWpereHnC2vp" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:59:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6LeltB7WpCQuPV9AUgNAuxWpereHnC2vp Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rK0u1W5uNAIAXeODm7JftO5VA6Nbt88f1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56FAFACF.5040404@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat References: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20160329165112.GA9259@box.niklaas.eu> In-Reply-To: <20160329165112.GA9259@box.niklaas.eu> --rK0u1W5uNAIAXeODm7JftO5VA6Nbt88f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/03/2016 17:51, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > So there's nothing to worry about too. Nonetheless, I'm wondering: Afte= r more > than three hours, the output is still the same? I just started www/obht= tpd > again and got the following: >=20 > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRE= SS =20 > www obhttpd 9308 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > www obhttpd 9307 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > www obhttpd 9305 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > root syslogd 4654 6 udp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:514 *:* > root syslogd 4654 7 udp4 10.15.1.1:514 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* >=20 > So it seems that www/obhttpd has problems binding again on IPv6 while I= Pv4 > works fine. Stopping and starting again gives me an additional "closed"= port on > IPv6: >=20 > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRE= SS =20 > www obhttpd 9355 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > www obhttpd 9354 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > www obhttpd 9352 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > root syslogd 4654 6 udp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:514 *:* > root syslogd 4654 7 udp4 10.15.1.1:514 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* >=20 > Something's not working properly here, is it? Three hours does seem a little excessive for closing down a listening socket. Yeah, that's not right. Those already-closed connections should disappear after a few seconds. Actually, it's also quite odd now I come to think of it, to see them for the listening socket of a server process. It's common for them to appear for the point to point link when a particular client connects and then disconnects -- you can see the effect in sockstat on either the server or the client machines. This is possibly related to the other odd output you've been seeing. Looks like the obhttpd process is not getting shutdown properly; rather it seems to be being killed in an excessively brutal way, which prevents it from cleaning up after itself. It might be worth trying some alternate web servers. If you want a pretty bare-bones but fast alternative, I like www/nginx-devel with most of the port's OPTIONS turned off. I know that nginx doesn't normally suffer from anything like this effect. If you still see it with nginx, then you've good evidence it's not something to do with a specific httpd implementation, but something systemic in your server setup. Do you see anything similar for any other network servers on your machine? Assuming, that is, you can afford to turn them off and on-again a few times while checking. =09 Cheers, Matthew --rK0u1W5uNAIAXeODm7JftO5VA6Nbt88f1-- --6LeltB7WpCQuPV9AUgNAuxWpereHnC2vp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW+vrVXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATWgQP/2DkbTHAew74iCjxbp/KP/SU dFLj6TmO7WbUKU7FDUEaSeExWvhw7Xhf3eeBnqGJhYR/AtiQCxXYyD5moyw+Zmqg pVrbVAB9VwV/A2f1WGaQbxYUGMEPFP4xk5VoP18BjmkAY83YnanWEsUqtINU4aIH QBGnI1E2uRFgX1ahRa3r0iuwnVOQbCj71jdaPVnqWOi8IOizQWsgfXwjw+4VtRPe ILk1qVTmrtXvbzusLAF2NY3E/f4Xju4sLC1TVEoey2yxXVLlG+p+uzG4DdCokhA6 +RzQhmxFkllknR+y8tMWJA8cgpovHlEXa2S7fqfppQ97WQz8FZszEn0VwQ/xHu07 I7SNnHEU0X6DduxW4xuJJMUiESAvP+1LIboZPoeJkUNMO1WmG1H4x1rDOXwdzacY BfdB/Zbua9jEpJ6pzXo5pRtrmAZpRn6ihOBYhve8eevzQDSKOtH3TW+J6zZAoMBv 0g4ZIi1HrX7xBq5ckiNMdqEfSPz/fwnvNUSUzPyd9djDbMHhADPgu2swvUib8t9G 5uvS4kMh/v6v8GHtE2F7Jk3lk4nbJjWPzlvcUXw0Kx0yzhI8xv9VfuXtwCm274Mg 7FJAnhevydJG9eSsYWxcbErjBzIDhuLVm1bGrMK5oho5eODc05d30pLk3FnCaP7L apLR6mbSyq3ogLH9bWPT =TImH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6LeltB7WpCQuPV9AUgNAuxWpereHnC2vp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 22:09:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0792AE2E83 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.michaels@top-page-ranking.com) Received: from server1.gcmworldwidegroupasia.info (server1.gcmworldwidegroupasia.info [104.223.3.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982E013DF for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.michaels@top-page-ranking.com) Received: from NishantRF (unknown [122.177.218.182]) by server1.gcmworldwidegroupasia.info (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CF1B022CD28 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John Michaels" To: Subject: Need responsive website for your business? We can help... Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 00:07:02 +0530 Message-ID: <2148f01d185fd$0cd6aa30$2683fe90$@top-page-ranking.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdGFD6jXej1eHg4aRwasuxqtG3mjJQ== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:09:31 -0000 Greetings, How important it is to build a brand, to convert prospective customers into real clients? Did you know that 70% of website visitors leave a website because they do not find the website useful or relevant? i.e., despite reaching a company's business presence on internet, they barely convert to customers. For a product to be truly successful, user-centered design must complement business objectives. A website's (or product's) success depends on how users perceive it. Users assess the usefulness and ease of use of websites as they interact with them, forming their conclusions in seconds-sometimes milliseconds. OUR EXPERTISE: - . Website development with CMS (responsive design for tablets/mobile phones). . HTML5/MAGENTO/JOOMLA/DRUPAL/WORDPRESS/CSS3 . Ecommerce development with payment gateways integration. . Small Business Web Development. . Applications & development (iOS, Android, Web App, Windows development). Focusing on user experience can differentiate you from your competitors. So let our industry experience help you create a website that is simple, unique, and professional! Should you be interested, let us know! Simply reply to this email along with your contact details and requirement, we will get in touch shortly. Thanks and regards, John Michaels Marketing Manager ResultFirst Inc. O: San Jose, CA95120 USA In case you are NOT INTERESTED, reply with "UNSUBSCRIBE" and you will be removed from our database within 2 business days, don't worry! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 22:22:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364BFAE02C2 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B90471D87 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E83563D80 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/E83563D80; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> <56FAF6B6.9070300@lightandshadow.tv> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56FB001B.1000106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:22:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56FAF6B6.9070300@lightandshadow.tv> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ltIIrh5hOnWTXRkeRf0EXp12tRH6rP9rN" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:22:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ltIIrh5hOnWTXRkeRf0EXp12tRH6rP9rN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="JnCneCJauAQboLmVuCh5XjMbjMvPgiB00" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56FB001B.1000106@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> <56FAF6B6.9070300@lightandshadow.tv> In-Reply-To: <56FAF6B6.9070300@lightandshadow.tv> --JnCneCJauAQboLmVuCh5XjMbjMvPgiB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/03/2016 22:42, Dennis Steinkamp wrote: > Yeah, i know about FreeNAS and it`s great dont get me wrong but its > often a little bit behind the most recent > freebsd versions and i`d like to do this in a more "puristic" approach.= Heh. The latest release of FreeNAS uses FreeBSD 10.3 -- but FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE has itself not yet been published. That's pretty up to date with the latest FreeBSD releases if you ask me. However, yes, sure. You can do what you want with a basic FreeBSD install and a few bits of software from ports. > I always thought that FreeNAS doesn`t support snapshots through previou= s > versions properly. > Did that change in any way with Samba4? Not sure exactly what you're expecting from these snapshots. Yes, you can export a ZFS to mount onto a Windows server via Samba. You will have the ability to make snapshots galore on the server, and even to turn those snapshots into cloned filesystems or mount the snapshots. I have no idea if you can export a snapshot for any sort of remote mount -- you can certainly export a cloned fileesystem for that purpose, or you can send the snapshotted ZFS to another machine for backup. Cheers, Matthew --JnCneCJauAQboLmVuCh5XjMbjMvPgiB00-- --ltIIrh5hOnWTXRkeRf0EXp12tRH6rP9rN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW+wAbXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT6B8P/iWjAQAy4Ty7YXo2Ouw9vakc rETCeARaL9HY/tFaYcJzf03oY3IRHA5lXr9YMlapMHYNmVjiTo/Vn7rCSfgQvV6I VwANc4CYEUnBLSxImiB+4lTZxgwJDkKthrBq8mTrTSN73a+cHt2iCk4b6vcuOuLk Wc2z9aInWqKAt7eZ2YQxaUKuWKdnbkaCxFxeA39rPoR1TSSOMProzzHHGXo4kqCc +uRNJCa74ksxMZ9Jj6Vq0RqKRsmr0q4+EONq6KRQjAaq0+qNySZTmWCUd3HCzTW7 mizfPOxEjs2uMmWeLtdZTqxCz11KEuFp2H+hk1jtTnq8TDUjrwl12a7UwiUeClHb 1XBYVTOxYUs32CIyMC8SheganuJn9mPhW9z5X3AOUbJpB1MjrrrtkJP0aotI4wAD jh9Y6wUb4pIMsm6DOUR4FHIC/qdY3pbvoLW/ehTZ8ryKbRbywas2z3TupD3PzOzd TYz3qwyXJpmNMccj7ZNiDpFLDbxpKJZKHlreMG1rU2hNSknVKQ5/+aF/4ViL7rnI r0x8poYCDIVJZc0eoPIZZFt7Wzp+oYom5hLMiXa/TbzEB1gJf/6ngQ5EELmnSOpA A2ZKMSrGvZML+cF7yFa6n0oR+kQVwhTr788z60be/rGFO2Md/vJvRl+1vdPd3smc 0AEBh9Mx83MYOXVOxyVX =+T4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ltIIrh5hOnWTXRkeRf0EXp12tRH6rP9rN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 23:28:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B51AE11D1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from mx-relay01.cloudservice.ag (mx-relay01.cloudservice.ag [81.20.94.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA4081AC6 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from fw1.hostedoffice.ag ([81.20.90.82]) by mx-gate01.cloudservice.ag; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:42 +0200 Received: from EX10HUB4.hosting.inetserver.de (unknown [10.20.10.72]) by qhexrelay2.hosting.inetserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41139187030 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.153] (80.128.239.26) by mail.hostedoffice.ag (10.20.10.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:42 +0200 Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: References: <56FAA0B1.4000901@lightandshadow.tv> <56FAA86D.6070404@FreeBSD.org> <56FAF6B6.9070300@lightandshadow.tv> <56FB001B.1000106@FreeBSD.org> From: Dennis Steinkamp Message-ID: <56FB0F6B.7080509@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56FB001B.1000106@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [80.128.239.26] X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: e299f49b-79fd-4cde-afcd-99df35de8a6e X-hostedoffice-tnef: done X-cloud-security-sender: dennis@lightandshadow.tv X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate01 with 92CF4C80980 X-cloud-security-connect: fw1.hostedoffice.ag[81.20.90.82], TLS=0, IP=81.20.90.82 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1287 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:28:06 -0000 Am 30.03.2016 um 00:22 schrieb Matthew Seaman: > Not sure exactly what you're expecting from these snapshots... Pretty much what OmniOS did for me. The "kernel mode" CIFS implementation enabled me to access zfs snapshots through the previous versions tab under a windows client machine. (no additional configuration required) That made it very convenient to see all the created snapshots for a certain directory and to roll back to a specific one if need arises. I would like to do the same just with FreeBSD and - i assume - probably Samba4. As this feature is baked into kernel mode cifs i am not sure how to start at achieving the same with freebsd + samba4 and my question was more or less wild guessing that i probably need to create a samba share for a .zfs directory to make it appear under the previuos versions tab on windows but maybe i am totally wrong here, i just wanted to point out that i tried to think about it on my own before bothering you guys^^ Regards Dennis From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 02:57:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D81ADFF0A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95539195B for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BA2208783D; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:56:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SuSVdXXfG7wB; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.21.96.50] (c-24-147-10-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.147.10.153]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C98A8208779C; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com Subject: Re: question re: PF and forwarding References: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> To: krad Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Message-ID: <56FB4076.3040501@tysdomain.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:56:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:57:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A bit more info: A bit more info: I've tried a bunch of different configurations and still can't get this to forward through. when I use tcpdump to debug, I get client->syn server->syn client->ack *hang* - From there nothing actually happens. If anyone has any other info I'd really appreciate it. I'm not sure where to go from here/how to troubleshoot farther. Thanks, On 3/29/2016 4:59 AM, krad wrote: > what network topology are the jails nics on? I presume its not vnet > as that doesnt play well with PF. Your rules hint at the jails > being on loopback. If so can you put them on a separate ip on your > subnet as pf can still filter them fine there, and you will find > the ruleset a bit easier to manage. If those 192 addresses arent on > loopback and are on the same subnet as the hosts ip on igb0, why > are you natting them, this will probably cause issues? > > > > On 28 March 2016 at 21:23, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote: > > All, sorry for the multiple emails recently. I'm working to get my > server set up here so I can begin doing some dev on BHyve once that > is all finalized. I am jailing my services like minidlna samba and > unbound and am using PF to forward those. For whatever reason I do > not see the ports I specify as open ports, but the individual > addresses show them when I connect from within my server. For > example, I can telnet 192.168.0.2 445 and that works fine in terms > of establishing a connection. I was hoping that someone might see > any connection here. Here is my pf.conf. *** if="igb0" > addr="10.21.96.128" samba_addr="192.168.0.2" > dlna_addr="192.168.0.3" unbound_addr="192.168.0.4" > tcp_services="{ssh 53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn > microsoft-ds}" udp_services="{53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn > microsoft-ds}" > > set skip on lo set loginterface $if scrub in all > > #allow jails through nat on $if inet from $samba_addr to any tag > jail_samba -> $addr nat on $if inet from $dlna_addr to any tag > jail_dlna -> $addr nat on $if inet from $unbound_addr to any tag > jail_unbound -> $addr #portforward to jails. #unbound rdr pass on > $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr port 53 > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 53 -> > $unbound_addr port 53 #samba rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to > $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto tcp > from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if > proto tcp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr > pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr > port 445 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 137 -> > $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr > port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any > to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr pass on $if proto udp > from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr port 445 > > #rules pass quick on lo1 pass from igb0:network to any keep state > > #default policy: deny antispoof quick for { $if lo } block in all > #accept TCP ports. pass in on $if proto tcp from any to any port > $tcp_services pass in on $if proto udp from any to any port > $udp_services *** >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > - -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJW+0B2AAoJEAdP60+BYxejJ0YH/0YTGHQD4UVaAausYfXxNXRQ cIjsNKqxco/v+EhmbfS51xKIe27yFouyuuREsZvztkks9QnAJ2X3/kYBLsNGfRsy tGe0I23Pe56DYOQqnB2+AmonpyL9Nay0DOACpvZR2eWSEn78NKENtffA7o8E+Swo J/NF4/yiU/mVw6+h9qqekT9mMz1aqykdKJtPWGHvR2QYRBPdrQymaNg6rlFACtl8 XPrOIJD0PCyZXgCBg2S5hLCDGPaqDcHUbA1Bw8noIAQvIYrH8eBwPZ2hihKfD8On 1eouqzD2jpneCUVQUKAm3nfax25b54Itn6VSlrOyOXPtaZsny+DnuzSgbJw52ck= =mXEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 03:52:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDDDAE29E9 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 084991132 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA2543CE47; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2U3kcKl002150; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken Message-Id: <20160330054638.4c6c84e8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <56FA7BF8.6040303@zyxst.net> References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> <56FA7BF8.6040303@zyxst.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:52:43 -0000 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:58:32 +0100, tech-lists wrote: > On 29/03/2016 02:53, anonymous wrote: > > "The connection was interrupted" > > Though it doesn't answer your question, TBH I'm not sure why the forums > exist when we have mailing lists and publicly accessible frontends for > browsing those lists. There are several groups of users who do not have access to e-mail based services (for example due to "corporate policy" or stupid firewall settings), so the web forums are considered especially appealing to novice users, as web access is often less complicated than accessing one's own e-mail from a "3rd place" (1st is from home, 2nd is on smartphone with a quite terrible UX, 3rd is work). You can also think of the fact that many users cannot imagine the availability and the operations of a mailing list... ;-) > A decades worth of compressed email from multiple > mailing lists will fit onto a modern usb stick and that's searchable > with any text search tool you like. Even via web, if local access to storage and standard tools is prohibited (see "corporate policy" mentioned above). > I guess I'm not a fan of the same kind of information but not exactly > the same information in different places. That's why certain projects have abandoned information and documentation altogether and left it to the users to scatter useful bits of wisdom across wikis, user pages, arbitrary web forums and personal homepages on the web. :-) > Just means more places to > search, some which might be unavailable at the time, so missing > information at that time. Yes, that actually sounds a bit problematic: A user asks the list for help, is shown a web forum URI he cannot reach (for whatever reason), and the mailing list archive indirectly keeps the problem as "unsolved" (as the list itself does not contain the solution). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 03:53:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1D6AE2A5D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7A8311E3 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F0A93CEAA; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2U3rFoh002159; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:53:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:53:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: danilo.walterino@yahoo.fr Cc: walter via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: partition boot problem Message-Id: <20160330055315.ef7d0497.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:20 -0000 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:47:18 +0000 (UTC), walter via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hello ! > Here is the problem I encounter: I recently mounted a freebsd partition > in rw mode by mistake under openbsd and since I can no longer boot freebsd. > I can only mount partition and list files UNDER OpenBSD and that's all. > I tried fsck_ufs without any options (from freebsd livecd) without success > and I can't mount the partition anymore(from freebsd). May be someone meet > the same problem and has solved it.Thanks for any help ! > > message of fsck: > "invalid disklabel, segmentation fault" > > when I try to mount (from freebsd livecd): > "Failed to read ROOTINO directory block 13280 > cannot read blk: 320 > unexpected soft update inconsistency" <=== Strangely I cannot find the error message text you presented. Is this a check from the FreeBSD live system? Which OS version? How has the disk been initialized (MBR or GPT or ZFS)? What exactly did you do (example of commands)? But it looks like this (given the few informations above): There are two steps to do: First is to re-initalize the boot block of the disk (boot0cfg, maybe fdisk -BI), and the partition has to be successfully (!) fsck'd and marked clean (fsck -f). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 04:12:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20867AE2F1B for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0F381B3D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:12:47 -0700 From: David Christensen Subject: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:12:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:12:52 -0000 freebsd-questions: Thank you for the replies so far. :-) Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed and validated against? Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualization. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 04:35:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A3FAE2400 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felixphew0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x233.google.com (mail-pf0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62D5514E5 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felixphew0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x233.google.com with SMTP id x3so31897828pfb.1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=mKiSmYG/CsvrRoypsawcLfbd/xjznzbpU48KhVPgyTo=; b=ip/Xak1G/Dw/IdTWUPzHRkBc5SIrTgUL0fT0x/IfxOD2AUY8zolTFvdKe94SoxhhpE LVcH1G1nt9w12i2RwejjLlny31rWpzO/nt1UnG9N8Wa5XGJCAG6Aaow8tzDnLVcyYaBk mrvbSKQUnLHFhcq1+uJvqgm4zrF6Kg5Ky0t5o51FtXOas8No+t1AmRFwiKkamBYXE44f 66vJTkHt5Iruwr2zPwlFTMu0QdvGWhvlWn4Cg8VLxvY7Z2MGAahogWxlkM2flyRJFmYA /cyXUpGkPml7K2xPVYedSMWbzdRveoVBmvw4dB5yjooYw/H+aAW52B7Ewc0WKZmB4U5Q 6jHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=mKiSmYG/CsvrRoypsawcLfbd/xjznzbpU48KhVPgyTo=; b=EXHkvqGbqzXTR/Nz7ZVLUGkcXn9hcx62NE3m83CIBPNIrtj+KuLH5uFO6sXyNI2S+J 3sI+sOOCFquNKl8CLTGSv1cje3rQ2ii8D7lATkdZeItyn7n7HXDuP7Nd+1VasQxETt9U C99dkbQOY5lkNzosr89kKFuSdnX205SDUuu3A7izrsNYk+EfMkuxBW+SzdzOETrOLO0y 6+O1nVhjo6xqDkDuYcD3ufIbBzK6YHAwm+bBxMeDAT7jIbBZqDn83HkBlrSw5MYJOaX8 NuWN0qyIirw1OLfUvsRCSvxcR0Z+soAOOTFJEJbK51iR88Oyxo3gfRFbkYSDFFBDC2FQ r9Ng== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLwQOlL3L+ah+/Z33stUHT5hYdBN0P2nRiekiYyalRsEfKRGn+mn6gMAnUUWzy/qQ== X-Received: by 10.98.18.71 with SMTP id a68mr9571209pfj.41.1459312513924; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (c211-30-44-52.frank3.vic.optusnet.com.au. [211.30.44.52]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g74sm1912961pfj.1.2016.03.29.21.35.11 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_86157C19-2AAD-455A-AEB7-F41F897C3831"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: Felix Friedlander In-Reply-To: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:35:08 +1100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> To: David Christensen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:35:14 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_86157C19-2AAD-455A-AEB7-F41F897C3831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 30 Mar 2016, at 15:12, David Christensen = wrote: >=20 > freebsd-questions: >=20 > Thank you for the replies so far. :-) >=20 >=20 > Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is = developed and validated against? No. At least, not that I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of. Alternative answer: whatever the developers happen to be using at the = time :-) > Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* = laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: >=20 > I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work > correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever > free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualisation. I think what might be helpful would be a list of what *not* to buy. = Here=E2=80=99s what I=E2=80=99ve found: * Broadcom wireless cards are a no-go. (Broadcom Ethernet is fine = though.) * Stay away from Skylake at the moment if you want maximal hardware = support. Most issues will probably be fixed over time, but right now = it=E2=80=99s not quite perfect. * Several laptops have EFI implementations known to cause problems - = look before you buy. Other than this, FreeBSD has played fairly OK with most laptop hardware = I=E2=80=99ve tried. Anyone want to add to this? --=20 Felix Friedlander --Apple-Mail=_86157C19-2AAD-455A-AEB7-F41F897C3831 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIK5jCCBPww ggPkoAMCAQICEFC1FgrWDmDapbYQtU9amcIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwdTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwx FjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKTAnBgNVBAsTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24g QXV0aG9yaXR5MSMwIQYDVQQDExpTdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0xNjAyMTkw ODUzMjBaFw0xNzAyMTkwODUzMjBaMEQxHTAbBgNVBAMMFGZlbGl4cGhldzBAZ21haWwuY29tMSMw IQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhRmZWxpeHBoZXcwQGdtYWlsLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEP ADCCAQoCggEBAKksJqpdmTZtut8/KlhgQrh3WYfX+slw1WMls7FTE8avFJfle4IoS0qV/UbD16dX IAMVxYJHEv5V8VCEch8p5BnwMbuwUg1mPMAnNM4iPJPt7jopgW2juwGjAlbhI7oGaHen9qQ+3Nrx yZGS6XffdhSRviMeyXY2GZisphcnBdAgJg0Wzk9oZCuL2OJH8HlFki9ih0ARqeuw6M8upOf9BFOl f1m7R+m+trOPY33ExvtjNrtBerDcTcMtiTuG/hodU8RHM1qW1t0uof1yA9cl+4ghM9ndxvPSmjN5 KCeQv2jOxrPDkq5vTUYqV7PE2+jQTiIyTk0ALGXOB37zPJ8ZKt0CAwEAAaOCAbcwggGzMA4GA1Ud DwEB/wQEAwIEsDAdBgNVHSUEFjAUBggrBgEFBQcDAgYIKwYBBQUHAwQwCQYDVR0TBAIwADAdBgNV HQ4EFgQU+ArfnG+AsHyyKHD+Qad28shvhkcwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUJIFsOWG+SQ+PtxtGK8kotSdI bWgwbwYIKwYBBQUHAQEEYzBhMCQGCCsGAQUFBzABhhhodHRwOi8vb2NzcC5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20w OQYIKwYBBQUHMAKGLWh0dHA6Ly9haWEuc3RhcnRzc2wuY29tL2NlcnRzL3NjYS5jbGllbnQxLmNy dDA4BgNVHR8EMTAvMC2gK6AphidodHRwOi8vY3JsLnN0YXJ0c3NsLmNvbS9zY2EtY2xpZW50MS5j cmwwHwYDVR0RBBgwFoEUZmVsaXhwaGV3MEBnbWFpbC5jb20wIwYDVR0SBBwwGoYYaHR0cDovL3d3 dy5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20vMEYGA1UdIAQ/MD0wOwYLKwYBBAGBtTcBAgQwLDAqBggrBgEFBQcCARYe aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20vcG9saWN5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQB62lcCPk9J hvXby+5Pav1EZH4kMyulFaHUR4YtSTTnzlVnUjY1YC3PeuElbJvdg7GUdVktppZIp4yWRNevsdrZ gLJGBXvIprSpOeTjNQE//X+Zho7vqTY/sGMRiRxJmTi4/zDG63AsSzKFV8xcVi9yact85J+CMKRJ iv+x/AHi54RDiaGLoUkOpXiMZ2Ov8hRdQl+P99lgvDGhVwskGMtncZfmvmcSfyRai4gRpsXE8EKo qjzzUPr3aThBiVBVY+9iqEoXl3t2ykq+00v7uqJb0JOm8AHzk7Bk/tRYw/75bs2dBuwmrJMu2UBV L/2fc2cuLDjnMYoNV8nV8xrKm4YJMIIF4jCCA8qgAwIBAgIQa6eKfQrXiNZRCvlZ5Oe04TANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQsFADB9MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjErMCkGA1UE CxMiU2VjdXJlIERpZ2l0YWwgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgU2lnbmluZzEpMCcGA1UEAxMgU3RhcnRDb20g Q2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkwHhcNMTUxMjE2MDEwMDA1WhcNMzAxMjE2MDEwMDA1WjB1 MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjEpMCcGA1UECxMgU3RhcnRDb20g Q2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkxIzAhBgNVBAMTGlN0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgQ2xpZW50 IENBMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAvX3a98OifYP2W4L921tfrh4bdcC1 Ga+YJKy7V3nYNewJHnzMlBsK0Hb8Dm4Wo3FZpylcYa1MJGT10QMGWaLER3xCIuRR+8eklf/EqeZW RLojJ7zBRtjMywPOCelrOU+DX12dKp+Ez4J6919rz1UudTO1GvZyCYJ/I7062uHsskM8b7gPxmcC oO1UHwwpgkvpCArJWGFoFzjLdsZbErJcS3HtAhlkbE/BKTMrdYg35Uo12SLBO5tbk8h2imbKTC8i Ms+pskrvI/AVlh6QoTTXk6xboVX6zgMgzxSVVLymQiygYYm0y5aMsvi2raFhC643SOGvErWWPPnS EfbeAD1xswIDAQABo4IBZDCCAWAwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgEGMB0GA1UdJQQWMBQGCCsGAQUFBwMC BggrBgEFBQcDBDASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMDIGA1UdHwQrMCkwJ6AloCOGIWh0dHA6Ly9j cmwuc3RhcnRzc2wuY29tL3Nmc2NhLmNybDBmBggrBgEFBQcBAQRaMFgwJAYIKwYBBQUHMAGGGGh0 dHA6Ly9vY3NwLnN0YXJ0c3NsLmNvbTAwBggrBgEFBQcwAoYkaHR0cDovL2FpYS5zdGFydHNzbC5j b20vY2VydHMvY2EuY3J0MB0GA1UdDgQWBBQkgWw5Yb5JD4+3G0YrySi1J0htaDAfBgNVHSMEGDAW gBROC+8apEBbpRdphzDKNGhD0EGu8jA/BgNVHSAEODA2MDQGBFUdIAAwLDAqBggrBgEFBQcCARYe aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20vcG9saWN5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4ICAQCL4/eH7AGL hK0PAQJbnOEjJyMEvTTwcAJuUh/bodjQl06u4putYOxdSyIjSP/sKt+31LmjG8+IO1WqykE4H/Lm 7NKezWVnCHuwb3ptgFmlwbMbGkU2MOZBtwzfKXdYUhFLhaE2uw5jXhXvLYitQay962wP5uPI6eAI hV4L8aaya1u4s7MnrTq0Rz25FuGNO79vTHYWj797tSRC8rM16js4yGKOLFpQvIg0F8IElv57b1st p+C7omqM5Qn15dePbSnqr8Jb65WtmJJbnv6rlqfY/aLuE/zmNAlzLmPgfMDStKIXdg+EoYBZTEo8 wBUaBxihfNbJ069ndQOxMNNqBelEMgpAtmjTbCuXFjqIwWq+XOx6ZV/Wh2FAmaLsSHlNvEjjSQMZ wE4EeHCdo66ZmEs/5JYlCeOkulKVQ6P3m5/XOj2jP17Q2AgmjP+11+sHN7PvrG0OwrQp9QMe3X+r n0G8MjtFfqBWvR9CgLIxzM3MJNxFdgdjS2rYnShP5uxvqwfZvhZVYCIkqdJhpYON0DvSodfiar0w iM79mySZJjzC0CTbiisBzS/BeBhqeo2wFfli/iw3hn1XKvAx0ty6w/scmBF0AYqmRHYj1TjMSw0l Al7AztLglqWjUPI+sukvadMRPxmtKXlS2nVR4an/Z16imsZ69+fFYH68c1CK7zmjozGCA04wggNK AgEBMIGJMHUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSkwJwYDVQQLEyBT dGFydENvbSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTEjMCEGA1UEAxMaU3RhcnRDb20gQ2xhc3Mg MSBDbGllbnQgQ0ECEFC1FgrWDmDapbYQtU9amcIwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAZkwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkD MQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMTYwMzMwMDQzNTA4WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQx FgQUWEiU0Tv//lDX/ptmwAZFpQ2423kwgZoGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDGBjDCBiTB1MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJ TDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjEpMCcGA1UECxMgU3RhcnRDb20gQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlv biBBdXRob3JpdHkxIzAhBgNVBAMTGlN0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgQ2xpZW50IENBAhBQtRYK1g5g 2qW2ELVPWpnCMIGcBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzGBjKCBiTB1MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMN U3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjEpMCcGA1UECxMgU3RhcnRDb20gQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkx IzAhBgNVBAMTGlN0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgQ2xpZW50IENBAhBQtRYK1g5g2qW2ELVPWpnCMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIBAKPFGKRDo6C3OTkoHtxwgeks2z/ZrgerqVTW1gjRbncXv6zlYQtpq6fA iTRmiuNMSEYWil7tKeL23U8h+3iN6fiELF3YShc1F0ZyEmncPd/+ZME2E2HgM8ADkROAHhEN/2LO O2N4UzmOLlZUDmhx/JVTFlk4LNSXvVAdW9k6IXiIJhwfUgz+htPjM6EqHaZIiu8SXEg4wGywpGSC lUnA4vtF7SnR8ZzjK94+W6F5E2LXgah9lBXJBwWRfuwrNtWhnsfddTdb2ejXFbT+TMGkX1FI3Gz/ RETwDnzFIcKIPjLxxumYTV2SEu5lncL3OWvkw0rcpOfIMUeU67fmZfSI2P8AAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail=_86157C19-2AAD-455A-AEB7-F41F897C3831-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 04:43:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A155AE2772 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EBAD1A0F for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:43:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <56FB5951.90105@holgerdanske.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:42:57 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:43:15 -0000 On 03/29/2016 09:35 PM, Felix Friedlander wrote: > >> On 30 Mar 2016, at 15:12, David Christensen wrote: >> >> freebsd-questions: >> >> Thank you for the replies so far. :-) >> >> >> Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed and validated against? > > No. At least, not that I’ve ever heard of. > > Alternative answer: whatever the developers happen to be using at the time :-) Okay. > >> Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: >> >> I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work >> correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever >> free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualisation. > > > I think what might be helpful would be a list of what *not* to buy. Here’s what I’ve found: > > * Broadcom wireless cards are a no-go. (Broadcom Ethernet is fine though.) > * Stay away from Skylake at the moment if you want maximal hardware support. Most issues will probably be fixed over time, but right now it’s not quite perfect. Okay. > * Several laptops have EFI implementations known to cause problems - look before you buy. Look where? > > Other than this, FreeBSD has played fairly OK with most laptop hardware I’ve tried. FreeBSD 10.2? What makes and models of laptops? Did it work OOTB, or did you need to mess with it? > > Anyone want to add to this? > David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 06:57:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E31AAE212F for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felixphew0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x22a.google.com (mail-pf0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 053601D26 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felixphew0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id n5so34562197pfn.2 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:57:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=M0ydMcooECE3gt+E9zpZ5qbWzn1i6ruoH96FJrbbQUI=; b=MHsurk67GGdiCfjFtFtZuijj+AdX4QJ79RPLygcxXnbTHXnN7MSWCEKrm5U/QKEkwI DyR5vcznujGqk8/iwykafNHvTW97pJPVK5cm/0sjDBNEh7UuyBxhmit/Ay4KQVFiXait m4CywDyCRxolMdYbBzd+SqGgAUKpB1KEQrzl1echEL+dMKVFPXSYVm1q1c1tCbxIFl8j E02Qy08rINKj0ejHFCUISItcocGQOhwGaDBWEnE+kumtjWjy3sjL5AgizZnSgF0gYD87 7qMcTjYHAuB6Ms5RJohaGYfDM/Av1lCuo7PxFoWyvAVT5s1xm8/FPbA3RHfgUw9BWkFo 0rjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=M0ydMcooECE3gt+E9zpZ5qbWzn1i6ruoH96FJrbbQUI=; b=kGkjIhIA2BTYtg3nw2c9yzvhU1+F8R+eu/Qv7aQ7rHPYmzPMtdKXadCaonv9uR9hVh 01ByFoRQLMFpI1Ocq/7mhB0pk+uRBWXsBvqawqHGisRrv0JFdk9AvBTGRIIazNzAbaK1 Mz4yRNvtdvN1zDdGicKzbgpcXyZwNUuF6Oeax0lbsW3eKOVCohBu9Ky1Fr55gj+GVdV0 TRCoXpJ7y4cV1dHOBukF7H0knqtTnJYg7sUOrCvP8P64OmzJnwhOOm8bZyh4NGqYzoao okvfk9ZVBE8bu473hocD/giZKvoRngcMcWSrhT5afSLuCBPfofoB5GeR8btp3LJsew2k 74YA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIWwYwTgkj/W4iAlhJCPzLYUqai68P8JsNHZ+j5mut0Bl9XMbAo4+fF+hRUExnITw== X-Received: by 10.98.67.67 with SMTP id q64mr10475006pfa.44.1459321054462; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (c211-30-44-52.frank3.vic.optusnet.com.au. [211.30.44.52]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm3053262pas.1.2016.03.29.23.57.32 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E9561EF6-D4A0-4C26-B6AC-0694E0EE6FCF"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: Felix Friedlander In-Reply-To: <56FB5951.90105@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:57:29 +1100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> <56FB5951.90105@holgerdanske.com> To: David Christensen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:57:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E9561EF6-D4A0-4C26-B6AC-0694E0EE6FCF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 30 Mar 2016, at 15:42, David Christensen = wrote: >=20 >> Other than this, FreeBSD has played fairly OK with most laptop = hardware I=E2=80=99ve tried. >=20 > FreeBSD 10.2? What makes and models of laptops? Did it work OOTB, or = did you need to mess with it? >=20 My main experience has been with a Mid-2012 MacBook Pro, running 10.0 = and 10.1 (at first) and then 11-CURRENT when I attempted some driver = development. Everything worked out of the box except Wi-Fi, which I = eventually managed to get working with an ndis driver, but 10.1 broke = that so I switched to using an external dongle. I have tried it on 2 other machines, but I can=E2=80=99t remember the = specifics. One was perfect OOTB, and the other needed to use BIOS = instead of UEFI (because of those issues I was talking about) but was = otherwise fine. These were both with 10.1. --=20 Felix Friedlander --Apple-Mail=_E9561EF6-D4A0-4C26-B6AC-0694E0EE6FCF Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIK5jCCBPww ggPkoAMCAQICEFC1FgrWDmDapbYQtU9amcIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwdTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwx FjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKTAnBgNVBAsTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24g QXV0aG9yaXR5MSMwIQYDVQQDExpTdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0xNjAyMTkw ODUzMjBaFw0xNzAyMTkwODUzMjBaMEQxHTAbBgNVBAMMFGZlbGl4cGhldzBAZ21haWwuY29tMSMw IQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhRmZWxpeHBoZXcwQGdtYWlsLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEP ADCCAQoCggEBAKksJqpdmTZtut8/KlhgQrh3WYfX+slw1WMls7FTE8avFJfle4IoS0qV/UbD16dX IAMVxYJHEv5V8VCEch8p5BnwMbuwUg1mPMAnNM4iPJPt7jopgW2juwGjAlbhI7oGaHen9qQ+3Nrx yZGS6XffdhSRviMeyXY2GZisphcnBdAgJg0Wzk9oZCuL2OJH8HlFki9ih0ARqeuw6M8upOf9BFOl f1m7R+m+trOPY33ExvtjNrtBerDcTcMtiTuG/hodU8RHM1qW1t0uof1yA9cl+4ghM9ndxvPSmjN5 KCeQv2jOxrPDkq5vTUYqV7PE2+jQTiIyTk0ALGXOB37zPJ8ZKt0CAwEAAaOCAbcwggGzMA4GA1Ud DwEB/wQEAwIEsDAdBgNVHSUEFjAUBggrBgEFBQcDAgYIKwYBBQUHAwQwCQYDVR0TBAIwADAdBgNV HQ4EFgQU+ArfnG+AsHyyKHD+Qad28shvhkcwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUJIFsOWG+SQ+PtxtGK8kotSdI bWgwbwYIKwYBBQUHAQEEYzBhMCQGCCsGAQUFBzABhhhodHRwOi8vb2NzcC5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20w OQYIKwYBBQUHMAKGLWh0dHA6Ly9haWEuc3RhcnRzc2wuY29tL2NlcnRzL3NjYS5jbGllbnQxLmNy dDA4BgNVHR8EMTAvMC2gK6AphidodHRwOi8vY3JsLnN0YXJ0c3NsLmNvbS9zY2EtY2xpZW50MS5j cmwwHwYDVR0RBBgwFoEUZmVsaXhwaGV3MEBnbWFpbC5jb20wIwYDVR0SBBwwGoYYaHR0cDovL3d3 dy5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20vMEYGA1UdIAQ/MD0wOwYLKwYBBAGBtTcBAgQwLDAqBggrBgEFBQcCARYe aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20vcG9saWN5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQB62lcCPk9J hvXby+5Pav1EZH4kMyulFaHUR4YtSTTnzlVnUjY1YC3PeuElbJvdg7GUdVktppZIp4yWRNevsdrZ gLJGBXvIprSpOeTjNQE//X+Zho7vqTY/sGMRiRxJmTi4/zDG63AsSzKFV8xcVi9yact85J+CMKRJ iv+x/AHi54RDiaGLoUkOpXiMZ2Ov8hRdQl+P99lgvDGhVwskGMtncZfmvmcSfyRai4gRpsXE8EKo qjzzUPr3aThBiVBVY+9iqEoXl3t2ykq+00v7uqJb0JOm8AHzk7Bk/tRYw/75bs2dBuwmrJMu2UBV L/2fc2cuLDjnMYoNV8nV8xrKm4YJMIIF4jCCA8qgAwIBAgIQa6eKfQrXiNZRCvlZ5Oe04TANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQsFADB9MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjErMCkGA1UE CxMiU2VjdXJlIERpZ2l0YWwgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgU2lnbmluZzEpMCcGA1UEAxMgU3RhcnRDb20g Q2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkwHhcNMTUxMjE2MDEwMDA1WhcNMzAxMjE2MDEwMDA1WjB1 MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjEpMCcGA1UECxMgU3RhcnRDb20g Q2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkxIzAhBgNVBAMTGlN0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgQ2xpZW50 IENBMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAvX3a98OifYP2W4L921tfrh4bdcC1 Ga+YJKy7V3nYNewJHnzMlBsK0Hb8Dm4Wo3FZpylcYa1MJGT10QMGWaLER3xCIuRR+8eklf/EqeZW RLojJ7zBRtjMywPOCelrOU+DX12dKp+Ez4J6919rz1UudTO1GvZyCYJ/I7062uHsskM8b7gPxmcC oO1UHwwpgkvpCArJWGFoFzjLdsZbErJcS3HtAhlkbE/BKTMrdYg35Uo12SLBO5tbk8h2imbKTC8i Ms+pskrvI/AVlh6QoTTXk6xboVX6zgMgzxSVVLymQiygYYm0y5aMsvi2raFhC643SOGvErWWPPnS EfbeAD1xswIDAQABo4IBZDCCAWAwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgEGMB0GA1UdJQQWMBQGCCsGAQUFBwMC BggrBgEFBQcDBDASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMDIGA1UdHwQrMCkwJ6AloCOGIWh0dHA6Ly9j cmwuc3RhcnRzc2wuY29tL3Nmc2NhLmNybDBmBggrBgEFBQcBAQRaMFgwJAYIKwYBBQUHMAGGGGh0 dHA6Ly9vY3NwLnN0YXJ0c3NsLmNvbTAwBggrBgEFBQcwAoYkaHR0cDovL2FpYS5zdGFydHNzbC5j b20vY2VydHMvY2EuY3J0MB0GA1UdDgQWBBQkgWw5Yb5JD4+3G0YrySi1J0htaDAfBgNVHSMEGDAW gBROC+8apEBbpRdphzDKNGhD0EGu8jA/BgNVHSAEODA2MDQGBFUdIAAwLDAqBggrBgEFBQcCARYe aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdGFydHNzbC5jb20vcG9saWN5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4ICAQCL4/eH7AGL hK0PAQJbnOEjJyMEvTTwcAJuUh/bodjQl06u4putYOxdSyIjSP/sKt+31LmjG8+IO1WqykE4H/Lm 7NKezWVnCHuwb3ptgFmlwbMbGkU2MOZBtwzfKXdYUhFLhaE2uw5jXhXvLYitQay962wP5uPI6eAI hV4L8aaya1u4s7MnrTq0Rz25FuGNO79vTHYWj797tSRC8rM16js4yGKOLFpQvIg0F8IElv57b1st p+C7omqM5Qn15dePbSnqr8Jb65WtmJJbnv6rlqfY/aLuE/zmNAlzLmPgfMDStKIXdg+EoYBZTEo8 wBUaBxihfNbJ069ndQOxMNNqBelEMgpAtmjTbCuXFjqIwWq+XOx6ZV/Wh2FAmaLsSHlNvEjjSQMZ wE4EeHCdo66ZmEs/5JYlCeOkulKVQ6P3m5/XOj2jP17Q2AgmjP+11+sHN7PvrG0OwrQp9QMe3X+r n0G8MjtFfqBWvR9CgLIxzM3MJNxFdgdjS2rYnShP5uxvqwfZvhZVYCIkqdJhpYON0DvSodfiar0w iM79mySZJjzC0CTbiisBzS/BeBhqeo2wFfli/iw3hn1XKvAx0ty6w/scmBF0AYqmRHYj1TjMSw0l Al7AztLglqWjUPI+sukvadMRPxmtKXlS2nVR4an/Z16imsZ69+fFYH68c1CK7zmjozGCA04wggNK AgEBMIGJMHUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSkwJwYDVQQLEyBT dGFydENvbSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTEjMCEGA1UEAxMaU3RhcnRDb20gQ2xhc3Mg MSBDbGllbnQgQ0ECEFC1FgrWDmDapbYQtU9amcIwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAZkwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkD MQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMTYwMzMwMDY1NzI5WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQx FgQUpsfWcuiKMWqEYj4UYepK9KSVca8wgZoGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDGBjDCBiTB1MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJ TDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjEpMCcGA1UECxMgU3RhcnRDb20gQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlv biBBdXRob3JpdHkxIzAhBgNVBAMTGlN0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgQ2xpZW50IENBAhBQtRYK1g5g 2qW2ELVPWpnCMIGcBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzGBjKCBiTB1MQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMN U3RhcnRDb20gTHRkLjEpMCcGA1UECxMgU3RhcnRDb20gQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkx IzAhBgNVBAMTGlN0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgQ2xpZW50IENBAhBQtRYK1g5g2qW2ELVPWpnCMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIBAJJLAR1Zi2SerAhF+NBzDCmPn5o2TsXN9j7qVeIEOi1rQzTcK2PmvSRK mXDYba4BHUFR7x1ENpBMMRqY0GXYJ2sgKL6/YoF/cTeRsVL0iMjWexggYGvsMDjpGQY+nG28UXnk EB9X0J7mfQi5MlUZ2fRNnzF41A7l6kl7tAZIKin20WuFJi4pD0l0AusNqvvubv2YKqCuVWVyXdC6 DENLrwc56IO/+GzFcA2UBGjzSiq0m29m/qhs2u5ouf8s4LDmqqLkzui7HLvJbSgmtBNf9C5nrqMg atv99LY9K5Onusuo8pmcv6OQAomrRogrxIuONLULommUr7aP9QJp5WUNQl4AAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail=_E9561EF6-D4A0-4C26-B6AC-0694E0EE6FCF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 06:59:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB191AE21D8 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@bontempi.net) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92DE91DEA for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@bontempi.net) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8610E221D1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web1 ([10.202.2.211]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:59:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bontempi.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=SBh410ORLkrRbYtRzDret8/db3c=; b=XBqmin gmEk/cZCZT3tHVW9BnFyxFOH6PgWa13HWtPKVxsxP3KpWTvfADA9Xbu2M9SZ1Cvg sHIDKiuRtBVaVzDHmSdcUddM7AzdCRN1V02iSlknK9IYTjCC/ZaPgMnqcwwAE40S bJ6MZ8RFapjkvVp91Sk4QgpyL/SKx6DQ6L9Gs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=SBh410ORLkrRbYt RzDret8/db3c=; b=JPchHB6i95J9IcADbgr1128b6VwcX9QSQfPwQT+37iAY3LZ ljVwn85WEvHD2Ag84UQ8Q637+iqnUaYBMZfYOd4GmDCz10rtFbBuvUzECeSVRNPS 36DDZlwGtjXT0n0jhKYJfyg+BEzXmSRyDFcsRI7t03jfphKtXL6B6E4MkE84= Received: by web1.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 25854AE3C7D; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1459321158.1873218.563290050.42B38184@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: kAGTfWyegp1fYH0kwYrFQjkw5xAkNSqGuV/Eud094UYQ 1459321158 From: Priyadarshan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2c910a9a In-Reply-To: <56FAFACF.5040404@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160329112840.GA5801@box.niklaas.eu> <56FA6F86.3040302@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20160329165112.GA9259@box.niklaas.eu> <56FAFACF.5040404@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:59:18 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:59:20 -0000 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016, at 21:59, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 29/03/2016 17:51, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > > So there's nothing to worry about too. Nonetheless, I'm wondering: After more > > than three hours, the output is still the same? I just started www/obhttpd > > again and got the following: > > > > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS > > www obhttpd 9308 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > www obhttpd 9307 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > www obhttpd 9305 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > root syslogd 4654 6 udp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:514 *:* > > root syslogd 4654 7 udp4 10.15.1.1:514 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > > > > So it seems that www/obhttpd has problems binding again on IPv6 while IPv4 > > works fine. Stopping and starting again gives me an additional "closed" port on > > IPv6: > > > > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS > > www obhttpd 9355 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > www obhttpd 9354 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > www obhttpd 9352 4 tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > root syslogd 4654 6 udp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:514 *:* > > root syslogd 4654 7 udp4 10.15.1.1:514 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp4 10.15.1.1:80 *:* > > ? ? ? ? tcp6 2a00:c98:2200:af07:6:0:1:1:80 *:* > > > > Something's not working properly here, is it? > > Three hours does seem a little excessive for closing down a listening > socket. Yeah, that's not right. Those already-closed connections > should disappear after a few seconds. Actually, it's also quite odd now > I come to think of it, to see them for the listening socket of a server > process. It's common for them to appear for the point to point link > when a particular client connects and then disconnects -- you can see > the effect in sockstat on either the server or the client machines. > > This is possibly related to the other odd output you've been seeing. > Looks like the obhttpd process is not getting shutdown properly; rather > it seems to be being killed in an excessively brutal way, which prevents > it from cleaning up after itself. > > It might be worth trying some alternate web servers. If you want a > pretty bare-bones but fast alternative, I like www/nginx-devel with most > of the port's OPTIONS turned off. > > I know that nginx doesn't normally suffer from anything like this > effect. If you still see it with nginx, then you've good evidence it's > not something to do with a specific httpd implementation, but something > systemic in your server setup. > > Do you see anything similar for any other network servers on your > machine? Assuming, that is, you can afford to turn them off and > on-again a few times while checking. > > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > Email had 1 attachment: > + signature.asc > 1k (application/pgp-signature) Hi, As alternative to obhttpd, we have been using Caddy with good results. It is not on Freshports (yet) but one could get most configurations for FreeBSD here: https://caddyserver.com/download Priyadarshan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 07:01:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3026AE23CD for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57AFF1062 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id r72so85694768wmg.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=90gBu5VcjuXwQWtC85mgWsAQmtDyPZwvH+BOeuA5MqE=; b=Dy1RF21kBPt3xdfNX6yAH5jrPaS8FitsWuTYhal8YgxDhpXpGATNJ4qUOtXhl6ocPG HnVF93aqZMk6+dT6QK5quKHREx5w7n0m8jKF/1g8m3QRhvYN9GfZBVYNWMP6nCDmSCtY uUhflgyv+2RH416bZd7xBD9roaXOBPrmrp3ZNzochdsqVkcbS28LRcCLX4G4GS+AAjPJ CtGFzF7VK1BdO/C3rkzNNeRccxrSHH31S/UZYM1WxlMB9MhzLY5HLcPxUQO4uKXsPyFi a+oIZGMuNedmNS6EHI1pNXS7qErGybQ0lUFsNDDfQx9nRdKDm1+4wSZ1oO5RGl2Fwg9f 5Pkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=90gBu5VcjuXwQWtC85mgWsAQmtDyPZwvH+BOeuA5MqE=; b=gucUgTZZb6HEUmP88GQXXzCVBnSj5ipzJD2FdevG+S0G0GlpTC2z6ernA1W38Rz8h7 FaSl3Ufn8XAzjxHt7D08HltC4V+QKBGSgMSqOBzBD3b/EZNePsMSO9aIUuKo7WEG6sEu mvwWMrlZY9Q15b9nTghufG6DzfYdKEdZUnhJPdpjZTAv8jaVzza3Wz+EEyAECcMXcsTJ PS2t9hN0r5D+DJGemIUEIrOCMN/iUG962S5Ie7sLGu+fkNZEdP9t/9a85dWwdqJQddq2 3ljwa8lRZNbkWoLQq+fnFJpJbuvr/hMOC4Xr9YTvx2m9rZf9p/KIAkF9yQQXQQVC3aCJ 12zA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLOLI1P063DJFhDMgbXLkqf4j2PBZgRkccHPCJze9vy8Uqo/tdmZknQso3epP3mTw== X-Received: by 10.194.103.227 with SMTP id fz3mr7259449wjb.43.1459321304962; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([37.153.108.22]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id lz5sm2335901wjb.5.2016.03.30.00.01.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:01:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Malcolm Matalka To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:01:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> (David Christensen's message of "Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:12:32 -0700") Message-ID: <86io0478kp.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:01:46 -0000 David Christensen writes: > freebsd-questions: > > Thank you for the replies so far. :-) > > > Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed and validated against? > > > Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: > > I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work > correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever > free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualization. > It's probably worth checking in with the PC-BSD community, they are much more desktop/laptop oriented. Also, the PC-BSD install image apparently has a mode where you can check a system for how well supported it is in FreeBSD, so if you can go to a physical stop and boot up with a USB drive you can see if it meets your needs. > > David > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 07:24:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084D0AE28E4 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6281CE1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 73BE861FA9; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:24:16 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www/obhttpd and question marks in sockstat Message-ID: <20160330072416.GB1256@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1459321158.1873218.563290050.42B38184@webmail.messagingengine.com> <56FAFACF.5040404@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:24:18 -0000 Matthew Seaman [2016-03-29 22:59 +0100] : > Three hours does seem a little excessive for closing down a listening > socket. Yeah, that's not right. Those already-closed connections > should disappear after a few seconds. Actually, it's also quite odd now > I come to think of it, to see them for the listening socket of a server > process. It's common for them to appear for the point to point link > when a particular client connects and then disconnects -- you can see > the effect in sockstat on either the server or the client machines. > > This is possibly related to the other odd output you've been seeing. > Looks like the obhttpd process is not getting shutdown properly; rather > it seems to be being killed in an excessively brutal way, which prevents > it from cleaning up after itself. Sounds reasonable. > It might be worth trying some alternate web servers. If you want a > pretty bare-bones but fast alternative, I like www/nginx-devel with most > of the port's OPTIONS turned off. > > I know that nginx doesn't normally suffer from anything like this > effect. If you still see it with nginx, then you've good evidence it's > not something to do with a specific httpd implementation, but something > systemic in your server setup. > > Do you see anything similar for any other network servers on your > machine? Assuming, that is, you can afford to turn them off and > on-again a few times while checking. I've already installed www/nginx, started/stopped it, and it works, that is, no "open" ports once I stopped it. So I'm sure that mail/obhttpd is malfunctioning has something to do with mail/obhttpd and not the system. Priyadarshan [2016-03-30 06:59 +0000] : > As alternative to obhttpd, we have been using Caddy with good results. > > It is not on Freshports (yet) but one could get most configurations for > FreeBSD here: https://caddyserver.com/download Wow. Looks interesting. Probably I'll wait until v1.0 and a port though. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 08:11:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CA8AE27EB for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@ensuretech.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5C2174A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@ensuretech.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DDB07AE27EA; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4FDAE27E8 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@ensuretech.com) Received: from newton.jcr.net.br (newton.jcr.net.br [177.52.173.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 979EF1749 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@ensuretech.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by newton.jcr.net.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF64B82C5B for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:06:14 -0300 (BRT) Received: from newton.jcr.net.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newton.jcr.net.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id R1DzqlG5n8ow for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:06:13 -0300 (BRT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by newton.jcr.net.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3ADB8199E for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:29:53 -0300 (BRT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at newton.jcr.net.br Received: from newton.jcr.net.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newton.jcr.net.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id S9mX8QPp1hH0 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:29:53 -0300 (BRT) Received: from [180.250.80.61] (unknown [180.250.80.61]) by newton.jcr.net.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E250B8199F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:16:40 -0300 (BRT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: CISCO IP PHONES AND CPU's To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Globalmax@newton.jcr.net.br, "Computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:47 -0000 Hi, Our Stock list. Brand NEW 96 x Cisco 7900 IP Phone 87 x Unified IP Phone 6900 12 x Unified IP Phone 8900 76 x Unified IP Phone 9900 55 x Unified IP Phone 8800 67 x Cisco 1921 67 x Cisco 1941 56 x Cisco CP-7961G 7961G 34 x Cisco CP-7971G-GE 7971G 19 x Cisco Unified IP Conference Station 7937G Model: 7937 CP-7937G 20 x Cisco CP-7975G 7975G Brand New Sealed : 23 x CISCO1921-SEC/K9 Conditions: Brand New Sealed Description: CISCO 1921 Security Bundle w/SEC license PAK 45 x CISCO1921/K9 Conditions: Brand New Sealed Description: CISCO 1921 Modular Router, 2 GE, 2 EHWIC slots, 512DRAM, IP Ba= se (1) WS-C4500X-16SFP+ Serial number: JAE183501L3 US$2600 (1) WS-C3850-48PW-S Serial number: FCW1823C0EW US$2650 (1) WS-X6908-10G-2T Serial number: SAL1620CKUB US$3650 (1) ASR1000-ESP10 Serial number: JAE181306C3 US$3800 (1) AIR-CT5508-250-K9 (this is new but box is open!) Serial number: FCW1521L038 US$4000 CPUs part number below 89 x X5650 975 x X5660 150 x X5680 265 x X5690 Kindly make your price offers. Sincerely Veronica Lankford Senior Sales Globalmax Computer 121 Interpark Boulevard San Antonio, TX 78216, USA Tel: (210) 503 0736 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 08:27:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A04AAE2B74 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BE131F11 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id p65so171908780wmp.1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=3zQbLVEnN0RbHOBb7ZnyVbidfhNRl2MhNzY/r4IJC40=; b=Rh4RH7+GHUCwxZO8pGxzFp/SJUvxJtNhXP0Uc1Uoak7kyug6MPBhYGk6xG3pZpIqsN WFoY2nj+P+Ca1pOB3mb/V1P65z1kiNJmCful3dIP7CB2hNxpc+b1rsUrZ6X37r3lij9r AhSi3FwYeuUZ/OjoyO2iMoQEuY0FSrdocLwQKcOs4Mfotcsb0D3J321ROfMd+ogj/0SI HdTCupflXX+YM++D9B57fNSTbUBOrU5KOfvTCVKLmptIEHoEjEUVZzymBLx77Rd2/TzA XdeizKnXfA7Sc/cNHmcYMjB2nfo4PF5JQBjK9maVqd8TLf/zUvKweXAz51X1+nRq4Nmq a3gQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=3zQbLVEnN0RbHOBb7ZnyVbidfhNRl2MhNzY/r4IJC40=; b=SxIKNotJ6F1U7UcFcS+1AHWYIydN3a++E4TM6oGgQ8ZWatN/nmZxeluX9IeYBXbqo9 +/2eNm1UBHnPqzFmQmNGdaLxWCkIQtDkB5ul2ASsqwxyDT9tRXvM7OpD2E7mG+GFsNBB R6FOY7d3Ln3Ryv/nx8voihBjvrPYAZMeG/L0V3DnoQjbLEWNU/7WiIjz9B/5kGhuyyY/ lVdvvzdAbqSQsPeuiAuoG5fUueFuXJpQcwHps5KAP3LIhMSqpjwkzSeZ9rEfx9cV+859 UAj0vSHnygQXTHAm/xf70bHXpwwmJsebsKFnExl/GYf+nInjS1fzcTS5amrDpcx0Mi+b 6oNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIGhYiBuxwohVfcDw4Py7ZQOcbuRo+ysJwysIWUVdTjO1sW7LrYIVTxaS8yAXsEvqqonu949h01JvFANg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.115 with SMTP id ex19mr7806372wjd.56.1459326475932; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.67 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:27:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56FB4076.3040501@tysdomain.com> References: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> <56FB4076.3040501@tysdomain.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:27:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: question re: PF and forwarding From: krad To: sorressean Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:27:59 -0000 I think your service lines have to the comma delimited, check the output of pfctl -sr as this will tell you want rules actually made it in, and all macros will be expanded On 30 March 2016 at 03:56, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > A bit more info: > A bit more info: > I've tried a bunch of different configurations and still can't get > this to forward through. when I use tcpdump to debug, I get client->syn > server->syn > client->ack > *hang* > - From there nothing actually happens. > If anyone has any other info I'd really appreciate it. I'm not sure > where to go from here/how to troubleshoot farther. > Thanks, > On 3/29/2016 4:59 AM, krad wrote: > > what network topology are the jails nics on? I presume its not vnet > > as that doesnt play well with PF. Your rules hint at the jails > > being on loopback. If so can you put them on a separate ip on your > > subnet as pf can still filter them fine there, and you will find > > the ruleset a bit easier to manage. If those 192 addresses arent on > > loopback and are on the same subnet as the hosts ip on igb0, why > > are you natting them, this will probably cause issues? > > > > > > > > On 28 March 2016 at 21:23, Littlefield, Tyler > > wrote: > > > > All, sorry for the multiple emails recently. I'm working to get my > > server set up here so I can begin doing some dev on BHyve once that > > is all finalized. I am jailing my services like minidlna samba and > > unbound and am using PF to forward those. For whatever reason I do > > not see the ports I specify as open ports, but the individual > > addresses show them when I connect from within my server. For > > example, I can telnet 192.168.0.2 445 and that works fine in terms > > of establishing a connection. I was hoping that someone might see > > any connection here. Here is my pf.conf. *** if="igb0" > > addr="10.21.96.128" samba_addr="192.168.0.2" > > dlna_addr="192.168.0.3" unbound_addr="192.168.0.4" > > tcp_services="{ssh 53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn > > microsoft-ds}" udp_services="{53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn > > microsoft-ds}" > > > > set skip on lo set loginterface $if scrub in all > > > > #allow jails through nat on $if inet from $samba_addr to any tag > > jail_samba -> $addr nat on $if inet from $dlna_addr to any tag > > jail_dlna -> $addr nat on $if inet from $unbound_addr to any tag > > jail_unbound -> $addr #portforward to jails. #unbound rdr pass on > > $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr port 53 > > rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 53 -> > > $unbound_addr port 53 #samba rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to > > $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto tcp > > from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if > > proto tcp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr > > pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr > > port 445 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 137 -> > > $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr > > port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any > > to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr pass on $if proto udp > > from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr port 445 > > > > #rules pass quick on lo1 pass from igb0:network to any keep state > > > > #default policy: deny antispoof quick for { $if lo } block in all > > #accept TCP ports. pass in on $if proto tcp from any to any port > > $tcp_services pass in on $if proto udp from any to any port > > $udp_services *** > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > >> unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > > unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > - -- > Take care, > Ty > Twitter: @sorressean > Web: https://tysdomain.com > Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJW+0B2AAoJEAdP60+BYxejJ0YH/0YTGHQD4UVaAausYfXxNXRQ > cIjsNKqxco/v+EhmbfS51xKIe27yFouyuuREsZvztkks9QnAJ2X3/kYBLsNGfRsy > tGe0I23Pe56DYOQqnB2+AmonpyL9Nay0DOACpvZR2eWSEn78NKENtffA7o8E+Swo > J/NF4/yiU/mVw6+h9qqekT9mMz1aqykdKJtPWGHvR2QYRBPdrQymaNg6rlFACtl8 > XPrOIJD0PCyZXgCBg2S5hLCDGPaqDcHUbA1Bw8noIAQvIYrH8eBwPZ2hihKfD8On > 1eouqzD2jpneCUVQUKAm3nfax25b54Itn6VSlrOyOXPtaZsny+DnuzSgbJw52ck= > =mXEX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 09:31:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A91AE110A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor.radnai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x231.google.com (mail-yw0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CC8812F4 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor.radnai@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x231.google.com with SMTP id g127so50838431ywf.2 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:31:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=utiDPWVZ4cbpm6QRjvf0Fz1moQXLM9E45g1OcqLiYgI=; b=IfsM3bQ89FzFPhySR3106RXqkPYO0LIzer/U9MOYCxwFTItXo8TprGNHNzQ6rSHpT+ GAnynnR9YfRc+Tj8HGGFtjPU8NfqsGK4Lmsw5fp28I9vOk3KCiB/zr9KO0noFEvCy5C/ m9okp7CyC5Sz4bukS12BtNjbqlZaRTuglcZ5a75ZEHxPgykejcPIwsx+abbrwauldn10 +6WaGkFKvEgQIpb/tZI9kn7shtmn09YaV2bXvUgSFlTnYiVf5PRu/XjLclMFsY1NBLly ziCH37tA+esCMLVeMSWs5cjek774tf+xg4zDLkg23lhJREt4z77sKu/HFW7iNYfVE9eC YLVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=utiDPWVZ4cbpm6QRjvf0Fz1moQXLM9E45g1OcqLiYgI=; b=id48Q5kckjmwUYU+Bv0uZyF8CArUWQHnXHLoaxR4a3wGvBObrmGsgEftlUiB/UPw+N H/jNWJNSuXIoDp+4vRyOoibcplKc0mSW/MUJ6LHe+z9Xt+ZdrMVw2gwkQS2pKTFdPcwT QADznoy4Grztsazx8naHJnxCiXRkRn5p2rKA1jjtb8WvAjX9paZmxFLHhxNBwj8h6/u5 SeAZFkd/VMoTDIbG+0FZmz6tlxxk0nhtTVMTetdG4Pi1BCFDbhQeu6QMv5gX5GYkZTtY Xh4LtxuEPC0aQzBjbyBTVLxfNPM3Vk0/inYq10EvbbnOM+Ft70z54knvxCBeqCVrtRV8 IqfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJ8r3IAO/P8PNEt2CV/xZptvSotWCy6Un3JMUaJMd0P6yUpC+HZdhQLiN1qLPLNhqLmAArdEpd+QK0xkw== X-Received: by 10.37.230.134 with SMTP id d128mr3674276ybh.136.1459330309280; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:31:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.13.213.2 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:31:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabor Radnai Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:31:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:31:50 -0000 Hi, If I understand correctly OP wants to use Windows feature called 'Previous Version' off from BSD filer. This can be done on FreeBSD + Samba4 adding followings to smb4.conf: vfs objects = shadow_copy2 shadow:format = %Y-%m-%d_%H.%M.%S--1h shadow:sort = desc shadow:mountpoint = shadow:snapdir = .zfs/snapshot shadow:localtime = yes format is customizable and zfs snapshot should be aligned accordingly obviously. Hope it helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 09:41:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC25AE1560 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAB0A18CC for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murk.fletcher@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id 20so62308991wmh.1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:41:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=cvfPLBbsQjqUQWLimbR+Dxbu/GTbZMEuRtWdEnfswag=; b=l7zMwUKBWnozjDGbiC6p6UrjJOLfr6B8nFnkDSu65EYLEtvv2lDnVBNXnMAjrLgnWr i7RqYMzubscq8jSoOJz+Pt2laO0txgsB7q4VXoHxO8Ll4UBmh7bNTLKinS0No7eH2Nmr Tgt9BQXJu3xSquukf4Ieqq/LGbwzhcEnbPg6YX8affKKi192hsUAy8hT3DA7KC4jdLpE pT4mIKbMXKIvozICx4mUfjXXmKsYs5qGlWqijVkfaFEaemmIYnn0H4lfogwHMjULU8Sb jZ3844gRysBbht5ebMhoRK8pGqLTgnQ1sbG74U580vq/snExmU/huJumxCXArDxtyYze 2GUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=cvfPLBbsQjqUQWLimbR+Dxbu/GTbZMEuRtWdEnfswag=; b=HS2ruznAAOiuOUDE8rylwj6zyBiwA9EZP190h5TSwClSAYp0ucJE03qhvRv4Ws8TWN 35ZyEub1NAMmJOtgsgavnINAB6Risx++JPfIHFq+qqwPJwXmHT3V+LBbmftkeJd988Rh kfDL4wgxu5LOwnJOjVutK1Zc4XHV9e4qqmJumvRbC1XtwrgqXffHTNv3f9vAvn2FgBMn xTmpFdEaUUN+h2biK5nB/i90kvbh4JnJUcaP5QLTI9+ZkXsrfC5Rb7dBI069IEuiqMQe sMFCqDlDXkTvjbDKCGpx9HxLcnnb5TSN9jE2S9OHaYHhBjlQS+FA98IkdHfETY96zlJh /4HQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIPlsL4G6/ZPse0WJjcE8AzarlahLVLFDh/eVi869GCe98c1Pmw/S8qZDXoEaNc2gpT2Jm2cHAH41WkQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.0.83 with SMTP id 80mr22750012wma.76.1459330869339; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.23.70 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:41:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Rails Assets and OpenSSL From: Murk Fletcher To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:41:11 -0000 Hi! Anybody here using http://rails-assets.org (to simplify JavaScript assets in Rails) and know how to prevent this? Simply renaming "https" to "http" didn't make a difference. % bundle install Fetching source index from https://rails-assets.tenex.tech/ Retrying source fetch due to error (2/3): Bundler::Fetcher::CertificateFailureError Could not verify the SSL certificate for https://rails-assets.tenex.tech/. There is a chance you are experiencing a man-in-the-middle attack, but most likely your system doesn't have the CA certificates needed for verification. For information about OpenSSL certificates, see bit.ly/ruby-ssl. To connect without using SSL, edit your Gemfile sources and change 'https' to 'http'. Retrying source fetch due to error (3/3): Bundler::Fetcher::CertificateFailureError Could not verify the SSL certificate for https://rails-assets.tenex.tech/. There is a chance you are experiencing a man-in-the-middle attack, but most likely your system doesn't have the CA certificates needed for verification. For information about OpenSSL certificates, see bit.ly/ruby-ssl. To connect without using SSL, edit your Gemfile sources and change 'https' to 'http'. Could not verify the SSL certificate for https://rails-assets.tenex.tech/. There is a chance you are experiencing a man-in-the-middle attack, but most likely your system doesn't have the CA certificates needed for verification. For information about OpenSSL certificates, see bit.ly/ruby-ssl. To connect without using SSL, edit your Gemfile sources and change 'https' to 'http'. Many thanks! Murk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 09:48:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8983BAE191E for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from mx-relay06.cloudservice.ag (mx-relay06.cloudservice.ag [81.20.94.248]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE441FD9 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from fw1.hostedoffice.ag ([81.20.90.82]) by mx-gate06.cloudservice.ag; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:47:49 +0200 Received: from EX10HUB2.hosting.inetserver.de (unknown [10.20.10.70]) by qhexrelay2.hosting.inetserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3642D1870D7 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:47:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.153] (80.128.236.218) by mail.hostedoffice.ag (10.20.10.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:45:33 +0200 Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: References: From: Dennis Steinkamp Message-ID: <56FBA0C2.3080109@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:47:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [80.128.236.218] X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: e299f49b-79fd-4cde-afcd-99df35de8a6e X-hostedoffice-tnef: done X-cloud-security-sender: dennis@lightandshadow.tv X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate06 with 5D8454C03FF X-cloud-security-connect: fw1.hostedoffice.ag[81.20.90.82], TLS=0, IP=81.20.90.82 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1955 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:48:06 -0000 Hi, exactly, this is what i wanted to do. Thank you (all) very much for your help. :) Regards Dennis Am 30.03.2016 um 11:31 schrieb Gabor Radnai: > Hi, > > If I understand correctly OP wants to use Windows feature called 'Previous > Version' off from BSD filer. > This can be done on FreeBSD + Samba4 adding followings to smb4.conf: > > vfs objects = shadow_copy2 > shadow:format = %Y-%m-%d_%H.%M.%S--1h > shadow:sort = desc > shadow:mountpoint = > shadow:snapdir = .zfs/snapshot > shadow:localtime = yes > > format is customizable and zfs snapshot should be aligned accordingly > obviously. > > Hope it helps. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 11:28:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2317AE36DE for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x242.google.com (mail-wm0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B840127D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x242.google.com with SMTP id i204so12056246wmd.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y6X+6iOWvES5lPuQCDULoEkx8a80cH32pSptuSNn7aY=; b=aOf8ijNDc1evxYqS0FieN040aNBkAGer+3lV7gj4Ddg/sUKHcTVuyEs32GgE8Z4LbP LCbWo+ETysfJGhPNvA+8zX5RPS+xfi1fJoNiojP0cRmrOPvVJV4+ERRbn2KGH0zW+QMe jdAWl4cGsCss8P28DqzYRc128/qf+kFoaPn4pVEYcCNl4e6ptel0byL0pK2/zBLEp+Xx /spMyXjBENrr78WHvBH9sHLFmT0pI18x/OZjiXgVeAtA7scb8X3E60UvJA2YSPP3WjLX BswA5z2TQMMGngWyc1udaHd7Z8gq6EHlZ2bjSLg23U1HLtfhJn1m3gH8GmcGf3stdUZA bigw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y6X+6iOWvES5lPuQCDULoEkx8a80cH32pSptuSNn7aY=; b=iBu/ARVArmVl1CfU0qSYr1w7W4kwU4p7blbpPUe9p34dlGLaI0rVL1rVJRgh+Qk7vy RO8BfKOo6cI7c7i6hS9nuLFvGfoEISknaF2LI0UENuhsJ4hqvOA++GbgHjPORh0I9tYx iDqxplmU55V8N9Zp5OyhbMWetDomUyzgXrBpld2VJyT5BuCPxfYisxPUP2oki3j5RuLH yPWpeQurAHFvrEQNJ0ySj6QS9Efs99rR6nwOXU7Utld+pL7o0+CB7G4Q+oWJGZ6SksW2 7cf2X8ptUT6IxmwVHux6/K8CpDRSWwuutjZf3mlUG5OChcaTRvFecJMLAWUTKkaOqiuv ShfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKJTHtjET3DLDSrdPmKJDJLh+c1YqDNNS2i3RnFe4l/mdRHG0AbrhJXCGAeM5FKWQ== X-Received: by 10.28.135.4 with SMTP id j4mr9841343wmd.80.1459337318652; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max-BSD ([94.163.160.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id hx10sm3467336wjb.25.2016.03.30.04.28.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:28:27 +0200 From: maxnix To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? Message-ID: <20160330132827.3724883c@max-BSD> In-Reply-To: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:28:40 -0000 Il giorno Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:12:32 -0700 David Christensen ha scritto: > freebsd-questions: > > Thank you for the replies so far. :-) > > > Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is > developed and validated against? > > > Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* > laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: > > I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work > correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, > (whatever free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualization. > > > David > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Give a look here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops Some not-so-new Dell and Thinkpads are very compatible with FreeBSD. Maxnix From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 11:36:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42490AE3A6A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khitai.pang@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S12.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s12.hotmail.com [65.55.111.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0195F1A52 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khitai.pang@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP108 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S12.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:35:48 -0700 X-TMN: [XO5ijy7Xti/068/yRDBBRpC18insJxQw] X-Originating-Email: [khitai.pang@outlook.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: indexinfo: not found To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Khitai Pang Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:36:26 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2016 11:35:47.0858 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DED9720:01D18A78] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:36:57 -0000 Is anyone seeing the same issue? I'm not sure if it can be safely ignored. Any help would be great! Thanks Khitai On 2016/3/20 0:21, Khitai Pang wrote: > Hi, > > I install all packages by ports. I have indexinfo installed in my > system: > > > pkg info|grep indexinfo > indexinfo-0.2.4 Utility to regenerate the GNU info page > index > > When I remove a package, I often see this: > > indexinfo: not found > pkg: POST-DEINSTALL script failed > > I reinstalled indexinfo by "portmaster --force-config print/indexinfo" > but the issue still exists. > > Any idea? > > > Thanks > Khitai > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 12:01:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A19AE2523 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B285F18E8 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id 139so14125309wmn.2 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JRhDQG0USOr/r5a1qPEEfI0PGONGZG2UW1iZekjkMMk=; b=Bi+TmdLke2PQUG17JwgAqV2OdaF+FbyFWzyfVqC3JFj+2IZqPQsb29EOWnGiZ9Jvd9 NRLAGkGRB+zciIF+h65W5hYuk4Q8u5uRR7sMrBLcRAt+jwL8hgvETZmXk1n8YxFDXK4i b160cC0jqg2bPCZqvhFk5ptsuxXmigLjXHanLwi6WhR2I2MVBxLWcKmlhAXdz3kEnE/6 hIop/qgQZgcsketXUzjGFTHqVxMgalKBMsgCJsiXQtKadSTrmxC6L5LKsXGXWhGWGKcS 095fYQZRW+TVR9zdTLcBe6Smt0LQbesaicJ93301FBtK+K5T0Mc26kPOmFoi0mBx9NQX vdPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JRhDQG0USOr/r5a1qPEEfI0PGONGZG2UW1iZekjkMMk=; b=T87HyNmYcbscbk5JJLrCOmbFUZ0k6pvDaKbGX1qkmWBn3HLwlHRZXn5akstup+QOhv fU10X7iRvu28EEQPMPFVssvjePAMnBnL2fWAvq4C4KG6LGuseOfx7yI5ruZo0XxFu35G Wbul2ai1HYR3cDQqdlbGbpMGY50MzFzaqJk/ZXiX4xHj+C0UwkIP6rHqId8GcW8yNBD/ jnfxyd2rtnx+edVkpWnTRam1Rwqzg/Rvpi+5qnvn8lQOlt+eXivSD+yrXxcVxlcEQEGM x+PxeCxHMElNNzEcmFmr89FKVArl0VPXjAG0OYPK83BG+sFPIDXDquGORvOcUbzgbGeZ mHug== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKs0y9Rs35FPDZMUtNHZZrv88UK6E2CK4CfmCKNy+V6/hIRHZeSztD6Sh4mZx+mqQ== X-Received: by 10.194.83.134 with SMTP id q6mr8967927wjy.131.1459339303260; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max-BSD ([94.163.160.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e25sm19386870wmi.21.2016.03.30.05.01.42 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:01:37 +0200 From: maxnix To: walter via freebsd-questions Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: partition boot problem Message-ID: <20160330140137.18ef2a36@max-BSD> In-Reply-To: <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1143004580.3392284.1459280838230.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:01:45 -0000 Il giorno Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:47:18 +0000 (UTC) walter via freebsd-questions ha scritto: > Hello ! > Here is the problem I encounter: I recently mounted a freebsd > partition in rw mode by mistake under openbsd and since I can no > longer boot freebsd.I can only mount partition and list files UNDER > OpenBSD and that's all.I tried fsck_ufs without any options (from > freebsd livecd) without success and I can't mount the partition > anymore(from freebsd). May be someone meet the same problem and has > solved it.Thanks for any help ! > > message of fsck: > "invalid disklabel, segmentation fault" > > when I try to mount (from freebsd livecd): > "Failed to read ROOTINO directory block 13280 > cannot read blk: 320 > unexpected soft update inconsistency" <=== > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had this problem too some time ago. At that time I backed up all files and recreated the FreeBSD partitions. However, you can check this discussion on DaemonForums regarding a messed up FreeBSD partition due to a rw mount on OpenBSD: http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?p=50146 HTH Maxnix From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 12:17:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F00EAE2A7D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x241.google.com (mail-wm0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBF111E88 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x241.google.com with SMTP id p65so14218980wmp.1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M9GG5RXgYG2zv45bwxqot9iYWS/SwTKNrcWiAUK308A=; b=PxobUGjqxIksPbh1eJAbTgjZmUxYx9Yq9ITYgSYESxCacSJVR/+Lsx5k6Gh3CKB6oU HikPpU2My4wrHkiwZIFfUAaQwi7Pw3xVjcsuxyonedLuPU0KGLM72WfMGEwPd6shK/Kh 1UUOKbP6iJGgn2UAfK2Ugu7bF2DsKhIbumAF2d1+g8r5UeFiPRNK4GM6PHv2+HsJqma9 YNQ7nLLVMY8xMOK+t1PKqfQUKuee1mKhxiG8+RPVavjF61LeivNMJVZO1IEH+AaMy1nO rAXCUIPdyB1xtfovJ6Ch9ZnbVRM4MFnQLvJvLupRCyQkFYbEBcMOA1OPVadHVzWkWePw q3Ng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M9GG5RXgYG2zv45bwxqot9iYWS/SwTKNrcWiAUK308A=; b=mLgcOfVpcLykLTmdgMPCAdISBT96Dh3Vy5xD0Vcg4f6uuIK0CN1mdVtJ9aMnKBDluj gsQm4n4SAHbVh0v/ppAP0LdP06/L+cmsa9cvQ4/1LZNGy806ymqN5oTwiyCSrGZ8myY0 d26j3U6tkgPlfpQ9Z1YZTguLchAcDQ4KBjlP7qXBCUqloJhVBVnbeSOsFCyfz9JljSKw 4hCiS5/nSXujIFamncEfP70FAby6QCahbYO3MDOgw2gmmah9TAULTnUyeu43y5rYA2TY v1xgsSfTygjnHlzX4+J6aukU/SLAWTUw/3NKmxkqIavSbO7Eh+yDJ9k4YDt52V0AHxGI CQ4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKcz7OO9vw78S06UUYgiYHuAl2y2xYHR4u9+H/TXh0fLVdWzKkRP7l3qDFirt5BQw== X-Received: by 10.28.179.84 with SMTP id c81mr22749847wmf.13.1459340236997; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max-BSD ([94.163.160.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m130sm19528472wmf.18.2016.03.30.05.17.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:17:10 +0200 From: maxnix To: Rick Miller Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: AIO Enabled? Message-ID: <20160330141710.0c7d3500@max-BSD> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:17:19 -0000 Il giorno Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:42:57 -0400 Rick Miller ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I found old mail threads and blog posts (circa 2006 - 2010) that > stated AIO is not enabled by default in FreeBSD. However, when > running strings on the kernel, it appears AIO bits may be available... > > $ sudo strings -n3 /boot/kernel/kernel | grep -i aio > aio_swake > freebsd32_aio_read > freebsd32_aio_write > freebsd32_aio_return > freebsd32_aio_suspend > freebsd32_aio_cancel > freebsd32_aio_error > freebsd32_oaio_read > freebsd32_oaio_write > freebsd32_aio_waitcomplete > freebsd32_aio_fsync > freebsd32_aio_mlock > AIOSTOP: bad channel 0x%x > AIOSYNC chan 0x%03lx pos %lu unimplemented > AIONWRITE > AIOGSIZE > AIOSSIZE > AIOGFMT > AIOSFMT > AIOGMIX > AIOSMIX > AIOSTOP > AIOSYNC > AIOGCAP > nfsaio > aio_prio_delta_max > aio_max > aio_listio_max > > aio(4) states it can be linked in t he kernel using options VFS_AIO or > dynamically using loader.conf or kldload suggesting it still is not > enabled by default. This brings me to a couple questions I hope are > easily answered. > > 1) Is AIO still disabled by default in FreeBSD 10.x and newer? > 2) Does strings send the same output above to STDOUT irregardless of > whether AIO is enabled/disabled? > > > Thanks. > 1) I just checked the GENERIC config file, there is no VFS_AIO line in it, so aio(4) is still disabled by default. Don't know about FreeBSD 11, however. 2) Yes. I have a custom kernel without neither VFS_AIO nor aio.ko and strings(1) reports an output similar to yours. Maxnix From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 12:23:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A44FAE2E90 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fidaj@ukr.net) Received: from frv157.fwdcdn.com (frv157.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FD7C134B for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fidaj@ukr.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=fsm; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=T7e0xFHRU8kB1XMQn+HKS8FmeWVEMMB+KKnAkj5X8AY=; b=ip7imwzz2TH8F4myF4NVrjRN37Yl+CDutBJd9t2lo3Z86Abah6UJtpCY2Yak4nD6B18MQXQ/DSP1itgorZlQBm7pjAsmgsSY9Irgzdgr/gh2xyrAiDLR7L/mgeTLj09/CdfHrCCfgoWULIYQgxUtX1Quoq2Kkl9oPv1nXUFcDeM=; Received: from [37.229.193.176] (helo=nonamehost.local) by frv157.fwdcdn.com with esmtpsa ID 1alF9G-000Lp2-1Q ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:22:58 +0300 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:22:57 +0300 From: Ivan Klymenko To: Rick Miller Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: AIO Enabled? Message-ID: <20160330152257.599d068f@nonamehost.local> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Result: IP=37.229.193.176; mail.from=fidaj@ukr.net; dkim=pass; header.d=ukr.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:23:19 -0000 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:42:57 -0400 Rick Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I found old mail threads and blog posts (circa 2006 - 2010) that > stated AIO is not enabled by default in FreeBSD. However, when > running strings on the kernel, it appears AIO bits may be available... > > $ sudo strings -n3 /boot/kernel/kernel | grep -i aio > aio_swake > freebsd32_aio_read > freebsd32_aio_write > freebsd32_aio_return > freebsd32_aio_suspend > freebsd32_aio_cancel > freebsd32_aio_error > freebsd32_oaio_read > freebsd32_oaio_write > freebsd32_aio_waitcomplete > freebsd32_aio_fsync > freebsd32_aio_mlock > AIOSTOP: bad channel 0x%x > AIOSYNC chan 0x%03lx pos %lu unimplemented > AIONWRITE > AIOGSIZE > AIOSSIZE > AIOGFMT > AIOSFMT > AIOGMIX > AIOSMIX > AIOSTOP > AIOSYNC > AIOGCAP > nfsaio > aio_prio_delta_max > aio_max > aio_listio_max > > aio(4) states it can be linked in the kernel using options VFS_AIO or > dynamically using loader.conf or kldload suggesting it still is not > enabled by default. This brings me to a couple questions I hope are > easily answered. > > 1) Is AIO still disabled by default in FreeBSD 10.x and newer? > 2) Does strings send the same output above to STDOUT irregardless of > whether AIO is enabled/disabled? > > > Thanks. > for CURRENT /usr/src/UPDATING ... 20160301: The AIO subsystem is now a standard part of the kernel. The VFS_AIO kernel option and aio.ko kernel module have been removed. Due to stability concerns, asynchronous I/O requests are only permitted on sockets and raw disks by default. To enable asynchronous I/O requests on all file types, set the vfs.aio.enable_unsafe sysctl to a non-zero value. ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 13:47:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AB8AE336E for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Received: from gritton.org (gritton.org [162.220.209.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.gritton.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D7B21BEB for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Received: from gritton.org (gritton.org [162.220.209.3]) by gritton.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2UDlHvh008996 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:47:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by gritton.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2UDlGU5008995; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:47:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: gritton.org: www set sender to jamie@freebsd.org using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Variables substitution in jail.conf X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:47:16 -0600 From: James Gritton Cc: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff Message-ID: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> X-Sender: jamie@freebsd.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:47:25 -0000 Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > I am experimenting with jail.conf, trying to automate everything as > much as > I can. I would like to execute pfctl commands automatically once a jail > is > started or stopped; that is, adding the IP of the jail to a table that > passes > connection and deleting it again once it's no longer needed. This is my > jail.conf: > > host.hostname = "$name.box-fra-01.klaas"; > path = "/usr/local/jails/$name"; > ip4.addr = "lo1|10.15.$network.$id"; > ip6.addr = "vtnet0|2a00:XXX:XXXX:XXXX:X::$network:$id"; > mount = "/usr/local/jails/templates/base-10.2-RELEASE > /usr/local/jails/$name/ nullfs ro 0 0"; > mount += "/usr/local/jails/thinjails/$name > /usr/local/jails/$name/jail nullfs rw 0 0"; > mount.devfs; > > exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > > exec.clean; > > www { > $id = 1; > $network = 1; > exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; > exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete {$ip4.addr} > {$ip6.addr}"; > } > > However, I get an error that ip6 is not defined. I have already > realised that > pfctl will give an error (because ip{4,6}.addr includes {lo1,vtnet0}) > but what > I do not understand is why the parameter is not recognised. > > I also tried setting things up with additional variables my_ip4 and > my_ip6 but > that didn't work either. After reading jail.conf(5) I thought about > putting > everything in hierarchical jails but I am not sure whether that will > help to > make substitution work the way I want it to. > > I am happy for any advise. The problem is pretty simple - just a case of moving some brackets. In the definition of exec.poststart, you did ip4.addr right - ${ip4.addr}. But for ip6.addr, you moved the dollar sign inside the braces - {$ip6.addr}. That makes it look like the braces and the ".addr" are just part of the string, and only $ip6 is the variable to be substituted. So all you need is: exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} ${ip6.addr}"; exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete ${ip4.addr} ${ip6.addr}"; - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 13:54:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ADDAE3592 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B23BF1FDB for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ob0-x231.google.com with SMTP id kf9so66513735obc.1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:54:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=umSNkxG+dUxpKx57lKgTJ00i0xpONgUA4U8RcF2ZRrw=; b=Tt+0KCSax8LM12rPqugjKJsSkewz2ExI/GMrX6u4LZuo1fh9xt0pRcQpK9P82Rry18 zGcHymGduE1higwSQRpL5p134mHTU71RaKMNy30zBLd7mjG5WLCRRT0Wenl44BuJg93Z uZBpt1tZsogdqMutQfKBIJKhxO54a0aC4IcMLU5uWWqMrX4jGArXWjQZBZnZjFJ+PYne 3aua0TiqWfdKIRcELjgwPz07XwckVIhcVEOeBNCN0LJ3glKctaZRn8j44xZcApIg2wUS hVquiE/Ad90FIVvvrrU0yfON8cebA6qTVgy3me/ZeKnuZkFW8CAAjZDCWyx+W9tg7fMC lVzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=umSNkxG+dUxpKx57lKgTJ00i0xpONgUA4U8RcF2ZRrw=; b=g/iFDIbm1PGg8ikHq/mo7ijPr1zghilP7tWFgHFgIRWu+E8fqXk+6e1hSDpg8I1iIB H1WSASxIxLnFII3f2ytmsTwE6iDSnAJevlf/e4wsyED+Vh9AbcPDc/Ov2ZkvuhZFEeBh dgpms2UhYtjam0W7bn6mLeQPnomrGB1qqSNf7ZYRHu+1M38Y0P44Ajem9LctH7lumBmd byB1ifBXvgSpI7wmI7Uok+Cmf23jYXMfR0xgk1F+o6uQ0VDqOZyQJsgK/tQ6d0RPBIW2 fZHotar6aF0yjKD3heR8QYSi8xT7kSOahoCgt5cS5nO2t2srVdfZbiiII//yJPVcwX96 r6Og== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJE/kR5FD+woyLyGm+Wj62k8R/FphZxxnfKCDXVjrSFGOdiFA4uIvtLto465YT1AOQHoYYkzAC/yy0IBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.157.35.51 with SMTP id j48mr5131435otb.71.1459346075575; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.204.19 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: Andrew Gould To: David Christensen Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:54:54 -0000 I have an old Toshiba Portege R705-P25 that works out of the box with FreeBSD 10.1. Wifi, ethernet, usb ports, sound, and hdmi ports work, although I have to set the volume up with mixer at boot-up. I have the following software working: Xorg Slim Mate XFCE LXDE Firefox Freerdp VirtualBox with Windows 7 Professional 32bit AbiWord Gnumeric Filezilla 7zip Xchat VLC I have not tried to install any of the large office suites or large multimedia players (Banshee, Amarok, Rythmbox, etc) When I have a computer with wifi compatibility issues, I prefer to use the universal wifi adapters that attach to ethernet ports rather than usb ports. Best of luck, Andrew On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:12 PM, David Christensen < dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > freebsd-questions: > > Thank you for the replies so far. :-) > > > Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed > and validated against? > > > Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* > laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: > > I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work > correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever > free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualization. > > > David > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 13:58:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA30DAE370E for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB19C1288 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 285F0CB8CDC; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <16137.128.135.52.6.1459346288.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Felix Friedlander" Cc: "David Christensen" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:58:14 -0000 On Tue, March 29, 2016 11:35 pm, Felix Friedlander wrote: > >> On 30 Mar 2016, at 15:12, David Christensen >> wrote: >> >> freebsd-questions: >> >> Thank you for the replies so far. :-) >> >> >> Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed >> and validated against? > > No. At least, not that I’ve ever heard of. > > Alternative answer: whatever the developers happen to be using at the time > :-) > >> Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* >> laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: >> >> I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work >> correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever >> free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualisation. > > > I think what might be helpful would be a list of what *not* to buy. > Here’s what I’ve found: > > * Broadcom wireless cards are a no-go. (Broadcom Ethernet is fine though.) > * Stay away from Skylake at the moment if you want maximal hardware > support. Most issues will probably be fixed over time, but right now > it’s not quite perfect. > * Several laptops have EFI implementations known to cause problems - look > before you buy. > > Other than this, FreeBSD has played fairly OK with most laptop hardware > I’ve tried. > > Anyone want to add to this? To add to "NO-NO" or rather "not yet" list: Intel 7xxx WiFi (Intel additions to WiFi stack (?) necessary for 7xxx series didn't make it into FreeBSD yet). I would also add 6xxx series as "maybe" - it is described as it works, but I didn't make it work for myself (yet; didn't have much chance to put effort into that). As far as Intel WiFi is concerned, here is the list of what is supported: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=iwn&apropos=0&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+11-current&arch=default&format=html Valeri > > -- > Felix Friedlander > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 14:25:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B6DAE3E77 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@hospiser.co.za) Received: from barn.cedar.relay.mailchannels.net (barn.cedar.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.210.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1879C1181 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@hospiser.co.za) X-Sender-Id: webafrica|x-authuser|info@hospiser.co.za Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BE7E06C6 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from srv22.hostserv.co.za (ip-10-123-105-117.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.123.105.117]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C79F9E0F53 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:06:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: webafrica|x-authuser|info@hospiser.co.za Received: from srv22.hostserv.co.za (srv22.hostserv.co.za [10.101.168.185]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.6.10); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:06:13 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Bad X-MailChannels-SenderId: webafrica|x-authuser|info@hospiser.co.za X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: webafrica X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1459346773451:1975591471 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1459346773451 Received: from [41.162.59.122] (port=64836 helo=LAPTOP-1P0GSMVS) by srv22.hostserv.co.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1alGl7-003CU3-9T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:06:09 +0200 From: "Jaco" Subject: Google and your Business_1 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: info@hospiser.co.za Reply-To: info@hospiser.co.za Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:06:06 +0200 Priority: urgent X-Priority: 2 Importance: high Message-ID: <924361568497078@hospiser-co-za> X-AuthUser: info@hospiser.co.za Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:25:04 -0000 The Business Owner. =20 We help companies to feature on page 1 of Google without having to buy= ad words which could be a very costly exercise. Once on page 1 we kee= p you there organically. =20 If we fail to do what we say you do not have to pay us. =20 Unsubscribe Me =20 Jaco 0762843413 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 14:55:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EA6AE2884 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (box.niklaas.eu [46.165.253.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE23127A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 53C0F61FAA; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:55:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:55:47 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Variables substitution in jail.conf Message-ID: <20160330145547.GC1256@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:55:54 -0000 James Gritton [2016-03-30 07:47 -0600] : > Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > > > host.hostname = "$name.box-fra-01.klaas"; > > path = "/usr/local/jails/$name"; > > ip4.addr = "lo1|10.15.$network.$id"; > > ip6.addr = "vtnet0|2a00:XXX:XXXX:XXXX:X::$network:$id"; > > mount = "/usr/local/jails/templates/base-10.2-RELEASE > > /usr/local/jails/$name/ nullfs ro 0 0"; > > mount += "/usr/local/jails/thinjails/$name > > /usr/local/jails/$name/jail nullfs rw 0 0"; > > mount.devfs; > > > > exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > > exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > > > > exec.clean; > > > > www { > > $id = 1; > > $network = 1; > > exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; > > exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete {$ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; > > } > The problem is pretty simple - just a case of moving some brackets. In > the definition of exec.poststart, you did ip4.addr right - ${ip4.addr}. > But for ip6.addr, you moved the dollar sign inside the braces - > {$ip6.addr}. That makes it look like the braces and the ".addr" are > just part of the string, and only $ip6 is the variable to be > substituted. > > So all you need is: > > exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} ${ip6.addr}"; > exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete ${ip4.addr} > ${ip6.addr}"; Indeed, that was it. Thanks. Four eyes see more than two. Anyway, that leaves me with the problem that the variables expand to lo1|something and vtnet0|something. I tried to set custom variables but that's not possible, is it? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 15:24:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3C4AE2FCD for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D814D105D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE74E208783D; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:24:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id oZ-wsE8BwX1u; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.200.119.198] (unknown [69.43.66.12]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADA0920877BA; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com Subject: Re: question re: PF and forwarding References: <56F992AA.7070409@tysdomain.com> <56FB4076.3040501@tysdomain.com> To: krad Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Message-ID: <56FBEFB7.2010704@tysdomain.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:24:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:25:00 -0000 On 3/30/2016 4:27 AM, krad wrote: > I think your service lines have to the comma delimited, check the > output of pfctl -sr as this will tell you want rules actually made > it in, and all macros will be expanded > > I forget the command, but it's -sl or -sn. I added that to my pf.conf on a note from someone in IRC and didn't get anywhere. The port is still refusing to forrward. I've also changed subnets as well. I'm not really sure what else to try, I've moved the jails from running on igb0 to lo1 to see if that worked and back again. > On 30 March 2016 at 03:56, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote: > > A bit more info: A bit more info: I've tried a bunch of different > configurations and still can't get this to forward through. when I > use tcpdump to debug, I get client->syn server->syn client->ack > *hang* - From there nothing actually happens. If anyone has any > other info I'd really appreciate it. I'm not sure where to go from > here/how to troubleshoot farther. Thanks, On 3/29/2016 4:59 AM, > krad wrote: >> what network topology are the jails nics on? I presume its not >> vnet as that doesnt play well with PF. Your rules hint at the >> jails being on loopback. If so can you put them on a separate ip >> on your subnet as pf can still filter them fine there, and you >> will find the ruleset a bit easier to manage. If those 192 >> addresses arent on loopback and are on the same subnet as the >> hosts ip on igb0, why are you natting them, this will probably >> cause issues? > > > >> On 28 March 2016 at 21:23, Littlefield, Tyler >> > wrote: > >> All, sorry for the multiple emails recently. I'm working to get >> my server set up here so I can begin doing some dev on BHyve once >> that is all finalized. I am jailing my services like minidlna >> samba and unbound and am using PF to forward those. For whatever >> reason I do not see the ports I specify as open ports, but the >> individual addresses show them when I connect from within my >> server. For example, I can telnet 192.168.0.2 445 and that works >> fine in terms of establishing a connection. I was hoping that >> someone might see any connection here. Here is my pf.conf. *** >> if="igb0" addr="10.21.96.128" samba_addr="192.168.0.2" >> dlna_addr="192.168.0.3" unbound_addr="192.168.0.4" >> tcp_services="{ssh 53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm netbios-ssn >> microsoft-ds}" udp_services="{53 netbios-ns netbios-dgm >> netbios-ssn microsoft-ds}" > >> set skip on lo set loginterface $if scrub in all > >> #allow jails through nat on $if inet from $samba_addr to any tag >> jail_samba -> $addr nat on $if inet from $dlna_addr to any tag >> jail_dlna -> $addr nat on $if inet from $unbound_addr to any tag >> jail_unbound -> $addr #portforward to jails. #unbound rdr pass >> on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 53 -> $unbound_addr port >> 53 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 53 -> >> $unbound_addr port 53 #samba rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any >> to $addr port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto >> tcp from any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass >> on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port >> 139 rdr pass on $if proto tcp from any to $addr port 445 -> >> $samba_addr port 445 rdr pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr >> port 137 -> $samba_addr port 137 rdr pass on $if proto udp from >> any to $addr port 138 -> $samba_addr port 138 rdr pass on $if >> proto udp from any to $addr port 139 -> $samba_addr port 139 rdr >> pass on $if proto udp from any to $addr port 445 -> $samba_addr >> port 445 > >> #rules pass quick on lo1 pass from igb0:network to any keep >> state > >> #default policy: deny antispoof quick for { $if lo } block in >> all #accept TCP ports. pass in on $if proto tcp from any to any >> port $tcp_services pass in on $if proto udp from any to any port >> $udp_services *** >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> > mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> > mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > > -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 17:53:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA05AE3FC7 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdonnjd@pcam.org) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0136.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE9B912ED for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdonnjd@pcam.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=PCSDK12.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-pcam-org; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=ba8dyEaBqwGabhaRa+lbrtnAKExV9mmG5WHXcvB53G4=; b=EQtYx6/IbzAcYPej8ehvikFjMe2F0Js/rxdajJRDd3plXoAPqnDabJSp7MuW6n1nz7Pm1Cdov9w+Ocq9qmFlFrax1G7NK02+P511vOgBKasmRtEcW8HuO9N9ihx3HjcNb4oz2pBSIq8nBQbxmm2X8nzbBYY2suULGOyLxjhvxBI= Received: from BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.25.14) by BLUPR07MB324.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.25.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.434.16; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:37:01 +0000 Received: from BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.158]) by BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.158]) with mapi id 15.01.0443.017; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:37:00 +0000 From: John McDonnell To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? Thread-Topic: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? Thread-Index: AQHRijpy5ZBW6/hatUqVMoaXgjo8tp9yAu2AgAA8mjA= Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:37:00 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: freebsd.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;freebsd.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=pcam.org; x-originating-ip: [73.154.127.97] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 44592781-c6f9-4b13-f3b7-08d358c1e695 x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR07MB324; 5:GMYBOoMcuy4FDVnZkxOsuauYhfbv8mLwousC3cbqHzZXT0DcUQnPRP+cU00cc8buOw2WTF9OFTsdpiqQO8xifS6zmCIBJGk7QTyC7by7CZ1seG+53RKVsSgZM15yYlpn8yCZ7hqup1+Kw97ooalAjA==; 24:qGlRRBtcxq21JNHdro9CrEIitFGywau3DOVUAwuTkag/X2lYJpFIVSM0RM+P6weRJqcFLukC69Hcghv81h+KuRTRAjpuRceYTpoAgVRzKkQ=; 20:giDS2aPF+1Kk5a90BI+mW6FHeQCAZKChajCyAdi2FQSCMeEHnm6bwXRQ1/Y0RahzZhXAxnVoDZ4SxHLzdp//shNDXXCdtx1+zMQhaaMHo82Qt/r9/KYB1ssB51TrnL5pF3iSsAISgS2tcCRbtORnaqmMwSgiTIdAJPTFpf+cxwA= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR07MB324; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(102415293)(102615271)(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(10201501046)(3002001); SRVR:BLUPR07MB324; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR07MB324; x-forefront-prvs: 08978A8F5C x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(13464003)(164054003)(57704003)(5003600100002)(6116002)(74316001)(102836003)(3846002)(5890100001)(122556002)(76176999)(76576001)(2950100001)(66066001)(54356999)(1220700001)(33656002)(1096002)(19580395003)(450100001)(87936001)(99286002)(110136002)(2900100001)(107886002)(19580405001)(81166005)(586003)(5002640100001)(189998001)(3660700001)(3280700002)(5008740100001)(99936001)(10400500002)(106116001)(50986999)(2906002)(86362001)(5004730100002)(92566002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR07MB324; H:BLUPR07MB321.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01D18A89.393C70B0" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: pcam.org X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 30 Mar 2016 17:37:00.5835 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4d0a72ee-ba26-46d5-8bbe-6430f01b636a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR07MB324 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:53:18 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D18A89.393C70B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Gould Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? When I have a computer with wifi compatibility issues, I prefer to use the universal wifi adapters that attach to ethernet ports rather than usb ports. Best of luck, Andrew ------------------ Can you provide some more information on these adapters? Somehow, this is the first I've ever heard of them. Are they powered by the Ethernet port or do they need to plug into a USB port for power? I'm assuming there has to be some sort of driver for them in order to provide PSK or 802.1x as well as what SSID to connect to? If you have a link handy to information on them, that would be great. I'm going to give Google a try, but my Google-foo isn't always the greatest when I'm not sure what I'm looking for, so any pointers in the right direction will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John -- John McDonnell Penn Cambria School District ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D18A89.393C70B0 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIOKzCCBDYw ggMeoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwbzELMAkGA1UEBhMCU0UxFDASBgNVBAoTC0FkZFRy dXN0IEFCMSYwJAYDVQQLEx1BZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBUVFAgTmV0d29yazEiMCAGA1UEAxMZ QWRkVHJ1c3QgRXh0ZXJuYWwgQ0EgUm9vdDAeFw0wMDA1MzAxMDQ4MzhaFw0yMDA1MzAxMDQ4Mzha MG8xCzAJBgNVBAYTAlNFMRQwEgYDVQQKEwtBZGRUcnVzdCBBQjEmMCQGA1UECxMdQWRkVHJ1c3Qg RXh0ZXJuYWwgVFRQIE5ldHdvcmsxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUFkZFRydXN0IEV4dGVybmFsIENBIFJvb3Qw ggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQC39xoz5vIABC054E5b7R+8bA/Ntfojts7e mxEzl6QpTH2Tn71KvJPtAxrjj8/lbVBa1pcplFqAsEl62y6V/bjKvzc4LR4+kUGtcFbH8E8/6DKe dMrIkFTpxl8PeJ2aQDwOrGGqXhSPnoehalDc15pOrwWzpnGUnHGzUGAKxxOdOAeGAqjpqGkmGJCr TLBPI6s6T4TY386f4Wlvu9dC12tE5Met7m1BX3JacQg3s3llpFmglDf3AC8NwpJy2tA4ctsUqEXE XSp9t7TWxO6szRNEt8kr3UMAJfphuWlqWCMRt6czj1Z1WfXNKddGtworZbbTQm8Vsrh7++/pXVPV NFonAgMBAAGjgdwwgdkwHQYDVR0OBBYEFK29mHo0tCb3+sQmVO8DveAky1QaMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIB BjAPBgNVHRMBAf8EBTADAQH/MIGZBgNVHSMEgZEwgY6AFK29mHo0tCb3+sQmVO8DveAky1QaoXOk cTBvMQswCQYDVQQGEwJTRTEUMBIGA1UEChMLQWRkVHJ1c3QgQUIxJjAkBgNVBAsTHUFkZFRydXN0 IEV4dGVybmFsIFRUUCBOZXR3b3JrMSIwIAYDVQQDExlBZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBDQSBSb290 ggEBMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4IBAQCwm+CFJcLWI+IPlgaSnUGYnNmEeYHZHlsUByM2ZY+w2He7 rEFsR2CDUbD5Mj3n/PYmE8eAFqW/WvyHz3h5iSGa4kwHCoY1vPLeUcTSlrfcfk7ucP0cOesMAlEU LY69FuDB30Z15ySt7PRCtIWTcBBnup0GNUoY0yt6zFFCoXpj0ea7ocUrwja+Ew3mvWN+eXunCQ1A q2rdj4rD9vaMGkIFUdRF9Z+nYiFoFSBDPJnnfL0k2KmRF3OIP1YbMTgYtHEPms3IDp6OLhvhjJiD yx8x8URMxgRzSXZgD8f4vReAay7pzEwOWpp5DyAKLtWeYyYeVZKU2IIXWnvQvMePToYEMIIErzCC A5egAwIBAgIRAOAjyxUSg1OJrWFuelRnayEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwbzELMAkGA1UEBhMCU0Ux FDASBgNVBAoTC0FkZFRydXN0IEFCMSYwJAYDVQQLEx1BZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBUVFAgTmV0 d29yazEiMCAGA1UEAxMZQWRkVHJ1c3QgRXh0ZXJuYWwgQ0EgUm9vdDAeFw0xNDEyMjIwMDAwMDBa Fw0yMDA1MzAxMDQ4MzhaMIGbMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVz dGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFBMD8GA1UE AxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwg Q0EwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQCJsQ3aelMZTnBSHbxWpgYmt7hJ4Jbn Uavx8FoTSRWjtIwbYLx6UUKneYykIt8XYU6R1XYjChTTSgJ/th0JgG6lBD3ZursW/qGHqS5DUkMW fK8yUMimT1rpCNjPkyWce4joMGTmpPhWgP0qJBQzF5msROVpi6NGBkvCM9TpQJ8GsLGsk0C5tQiT OpwqU6MQ2z0gYTxVA47ZTnYlAiEp+qN8cXZP7uFfgen7VIDbw3s1UreE3iI9LDAtMX9ZvVI3sDNp LUPr+tal8Zd3Z1GM2e4n67ylBzh2jKSpOP/fjPUDrEm+yvdzmToPMquclToTPQ5GOld0YVC+xkA/ y+Tin6IhAgMBAAGjggEXMIIBEzAfBgNVHSMEGDAWgBStvZh6NLQm9/rEJlTvA73gJMtUGjAdBgNV HQ4EFgQUkmFrguGioKpP7GfxwqP3tIAAwewwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgGGMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYB Af8CAQAwHQYDVR0lBBYwFAYIKwYBBQUHAwIGCCsGAQUFBwMEMBEGA1UdIAQKMAgwBgYEVR0gADBE BgNVHR8EPTA7MDmgN6A1hjNodHRwOi8vY3JsLnVzZXJ0cnVzdC5jb20vQWRkVHJ1c3RFeHRlcm5h bENBUm9vdC5jcmwwNQYIKwYBBQUHAQEEKTAnMCUGCCsGAQUFBzABhhlodHRwOi8vb2NzcC51c2Vy dHJ1c3QuY29tMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQAbKm6sVcE6q4jF2O3NVfOqa2ErwAkQI5kPxWZq b7H1tLV3Xg8CYQDffQX+ErOkgIAA/PsdW2pyAgpBvAW6wVjVJsLq1U2E+/6CmM9YG+MiY5xS+LsF Nqt9WKXeqztj5drVc+/s4Pt74qP/8EIjnMq2jU0+5EsYA7KoLdTYu0JLkGmFENumNzToe+ABEKWc yjrHn0+ING6KZdAairup3MrKNtH0/MJkKTWv1rGncRHSA0Oxjz6a7J4yU/R2ksqGNAe5LMrmHErY mQ3BhuKQkvtaQmojIRDpZcf11bt+6oyFIAJi6tE6ByxZxZkz8jiJ5bbpFnofeRT2ShAaJvp8ivub MIIFOjCCBCKgAwIBAgIRALfUtu4nPu/MNXqc4VGI0gIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgZsxCzAJBgNV BAYTAkdCMRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAY BgNVBAoTEUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQg QXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQTAeFw0xNjAyMDIwMDAwMDBaFw0xNzAy MDEyMzU5NTlaMCIxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEW1jZG9ubmpkQHBjYW0ub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA4MJnNd/AIeA+KQd/RZKb9aGbRC+mmMMAmk96M35eekT3oT3m RxTaJwCDRBcvFk70P8Ah+lODBwgAMMB3J5/Br6UX775BwhtJVizQmTcUkIG8ZLgvSbNPfWMzkUkd LuYiHADda4nvgTUKpUGkAp3iK3mRzZ+wQ7EBk0PBdanqcum5kjOsth8mlyAjqq8l6oLqXx2CtMmY kIW42jaWiYFRjOMdlaDliNqBpVNoGRnxOitoDXqvX5ub706bEWZvWu83apPyD3JXjEymK9zNf2+O nm4zLs5t8FiW3icrA8G0Z6Y4jBzZjGYWXjhjcwSzdqvJp3GUNcU1TeG3iaL1yEz84wIDAQABo4IB 7zCCAeswHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUkmFrguGioKpP7GfxwqP3tIAAwewwHQYDVR0OBBYEFJwBFj2NOGG7 7eDsUAdfHOzlKC5SMA4GA1UdDwEB/wQEAwIFoDAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMCAGA1UdJQQZMBcGCCsG AQUFBwMEBgsrBgEEAbIxAQMFAjARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCBSAwRgYDVR0gBD8wPTA7BgwrBgEE AbIxAQIBAQEwKzApBggrBgEFBQcCARYdaHR0cHM6Ly9zZWN1cmUuY29tb2RvLm5ldC9DUFMwXQYD VR0fBFYwVDBSoFCgToZMaHR0cDovL2NybC5jb21vZG9jYS5jb20vQ09NT0RPU0hBMjU2Q2xpZW50 QXV0aGVudGljYXRpb25hbmRTZWN1cmVFbWFpbENBLmNybDCBkAYIKwYBBQUHAQEEgYMwgYAwWAYI KwYBBQUHMAKGTGh0dHA6Ly9jcnQuY29tb2RvY2EuY29tL0NPTU9ET1NIQTI1NkNsaWVudEF1dGhl bnRpY2F0aW9uYW5kU2VjdXJlRW1haWxDQS5jcnQwJAYIKwYBBQUHMAGGGGh0dHA6Ly9vY3NwLmNv bW9kb2NhLmNvbTAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFtY2Rvbm5qZEBwY2FtLm9yZzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAAOC AQEAew4E8V8sfO3mxgM2vYDOaGoaDmoPsgT5DAA4lFYg+0oSOusZJZrnv0lICuD30WvITT3klqcP 6EKlCQcRWizYXmrkUc6WH7CQMJsZWr4iOhYnBwVTD0wMBfUnLRpw7GW5NaBxg4QkwVpFuJuF7Uzv 8hfaNGecL/nP+zubJ8UDbXzpWj0ZCgAbj6csjG7HEi+RlZ1j50G5ivtx8AxjIEJ/eD7mr0v/8o3r XQyR61sCz8pYz3boe/Y/mxIbmhwExN05RjbeO0eMv53JddK3s/ey8w4KdUHhojOikbgOgyWabwGI ze5fev2xjhI8JebDEcq3vY15PfYZ6m0J350IFVySoTGCBFwwggRYAgEBMIGxMIGbMQswCQYDVQQG EwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYD VQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFBMD8GA1UEAxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50IEF1 dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwgQ0ECEQC31LbuJz7vzDV6nOFRiNICMAkGBSsO AwIaBQCgggJ/MBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTE2MDMz MDE3MzY1NFowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFHfoxbOp2PDZCbVhtlo41DhMvE17MIGTBgkqhkiG9w0B CQ8xgYUwgYIwCwYJYIZIAWUDBAEqMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQBFjAKBggqhkiG9w0DBzALBglghkgBZQME AQIwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsOAwIaMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQCAzAL BglghkgBZQMEAgIwCwYJYIZIAWUDBAIBMIHCBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxgbQwgbEwgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYT AkdCMRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNV BAoTEUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0 aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQQIRALfUtu4nPu/MNXqc4VGI0gIwgcQGCyqG SIb3DQEJEAILMYG0oIGxMIGbMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVz dGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFBMD8GA1UE AxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwg Q0ECEQC31LbuJz7vzDV6nOFRiNICMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIBAN7h8yhjfJd7VvFzmDthGbky 6sWKYE0CEdVriZ2Hv0nonuilaYWaoCqUoI7Vh9RVBeNjpb+pQDZk0Ni9J+NbG02wUV4drRbTwa2j CSa4Hs5mImPRTc6kzNCDDf25A9/R8kqUJHidLyOZdgFXBBD/i2Tf5RxultOPp0+bQLPIEm/BksLQ n4CHw3qMxv6rW/OjeIbHfzASRxcKr+2qk5tO8GbNl0Irwf7wZJSlHXnjtxmsSEu0pkTiU3VjJA2J g+m1Jvyu1iBw1PEde+xTVlGIUxIAmX/D84GfpAyA/Qk9+9ml60FPfkliKmdTOOW1lGVp3x9X3tUw GlynPdrk8wMSFFsAAAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D18A89.393C70B0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 18:57:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63054AE3DD3 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Received: from gritton.org (gritton.org [162.220.209.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.gritton.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 456471A80 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Received: from gritton.org (gritton.org [162.220.209.3]) by gritton.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2UIvNlq013896 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:57:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by gritton.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2UIvNFH013895; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:57:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: gritton.org: www set sender to jamie@freebsd.org using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Variables substitution in jail.conf X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:57:23 -0600 From: James Gritton Cc: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff In-Reply-To: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> References: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> Message-ID: <859c4fbee2fd75910dcc4b85dd2c7f8e@gritton.org> X-Sender: jamie@freebsd.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:57:25 -0000 Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote:: > James Gritton [2016-03-30 07:47 -0600] : > > Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > > > > > host.hostname = "$name.box-fra-01.klaas"; > > > path = "/usr/local/jails/$name"; > > > ip4.addr = "lo1|10.15.$network.$id"; > > > ip6.addr = "vtnet0|2a00:XXX:XXXX:XXXX:X::$network:$id"; > > > mount = "/usr/local/jails/templates/base-10.2-RELEASE > > > /usr/local/jails/$name/ nullfs ro 0 0"; > > > mount += "/usr/local/jails/thinjails/$name > > > /usr/local/jails/$name/jail nullfs rw 0 0"; > > > mount.devfs; > > > > > > exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > > > exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > > > > > > exec.clean; > > > > > > www { > > > $id = 1; > > > $network = 1; > > > exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; > > > exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete {$ip4.addr} {$ip6.addr}"; > > > } > > > The problem is pretty simple - just a case of moving some brackets. In > > the definition of exec.poststart, you did ip4.addr right - ${ip4.addr}. > > But for ip6.addr, you moved the dollar sign inside the braces - > > {$ip6.addr}. That makes it look like the braces and the ".addr" are > > just part of the string, and only $ip6 is the variable to be > > substituted. > > > > So all you need is: > > > > exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add ${ip4.addr} ${ip6.addr}"; > > exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete ${ip4.addr} > > ${ip6.addr}"; > > Indeed, that was it. Thanks. Four eyes see more than two. Anyway, that > leaves > me with the problem that the variables expand to lo1|something and > vtnet0|something. I tried to set custom variables but that's not > possible, is > it? Sure, you've already got some custom variables in the jail definition, $id and $network. You can also have some on the global side. Something like: $addr4 = "10.15.$network.$id"; $addr6 = "2a00:XXX:XXXX:XXXX:X::$network:$id"; ip4.addr = "lo1|$addr4"; ip6.addr = "vnet0|$addr6"; www { $id = 1; $network = 1; exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add $addr4 $addr6" exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete $addr4 $addr6" } I haven't tested that, so I'm not sure it's 100% correct, but something along those lines should work. - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 19:37:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BCAE3948 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA9E1292 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD91C61FA9; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:37:41 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Variables substitution in jail.conf Message-ID: <20160330193741.GD1256@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> <859c4fbee2fd75910dcc4b85dd2c7f8e@gritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <859c4fbee2fd75910dcc4b85dd2c7f8e@gritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:37:43 -0000 James Gritton [2016-03-30 12:57 -0600] : > Sure, you've already got some custom variables in the jail definition, > $id and $network. You can also have some on the global side. > Something like: > > $addr4 = "10.15.$network.$id"; > $addr6 = "2a00:XXX:XXXX:XXXX:X::$network:$id"; > ip4.addr = "lo1|$addr4"; > ip6.addr = "vnet0|$addr6"; > > www { > $id = 1; > $network = 1; > exec.poststart = "pfctl -t www -T add $addr4 $addr6" > exec.poststop = "pfctl -t www -T delete $addr4 $addr6" > } > > I haven't tested that, so I'm not sure it's 100% correct, but something along > those lines should work. James, thanks. It's not my dollar-sign-day today. I forgot to add a $ in front of the variables in the preamble. No wonder it wasn't working. I will try your version. I'm sure it's going to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 19:43:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4387EAE3B06 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133841611 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A126461F88; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:43:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:43:44 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Variables substitution in jail.conf Message-ID: <20160330194344.GE1256@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7fbd35d23c23fb734bc10643a06f2d78@gritton.org> <859c4fbee2fd75910dcc4b85dd2c7f8e@gritton.org> <20160330193741.GD1256@box.niklaas.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160330193741.GD1256@box.niklaas.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:43:45 -0000 Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff [2016-03-30 21:37 +0200] : > James, thanks. It's not my dollar-sign-day today. I forgot to add a $ in front > of the variables in the preamble. No wonder it wasn't working. I will try your > version. I'm sure it's going to work. Works like a charm. Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 19:44:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FDBAE3B7C for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7434216D0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id a129so80727181ioe.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=VuRhNKx4oX5dX/rRpQ9xjz7csmbVf1wftazvVdMrWAw=; b=eq9Gqv07xkk8wr1X9kxvocz5lLicGlAOdp+OadlU1grFCUbrDEVPx3elXNJNQN6PF3 1JT6sWruBhfRQWH4RKLQDZLCsTiH6KtXChcarkDMLrUqd5SbLFJZN1QjzuyZyoNh5q7C rmkRNi7dhMlnMDiy+xreBISbFSVE1hJmAYEfp7GpPqcnE0mfDk9fo3sdNIRJYAyaMZW8 kcrfr+jfddmig2bO53QXSvEYkzjCAV0/4EV6GbtDdYdokMdMU30Jwf6WEdhSFTjbLHWB VIbjFXvuGnAq38OBSjoLt5x+2PEsytVgRJKl2aLfoOke6l6eK5v3xczTJOXyXnUFIDLD k4/A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=VuRhNKx4oX5dX/rRpQ9xjz7csmbVf1wftazvVdMrWAw=; b=d81s4zTAq+UP1xi91q4cHFJCvV8xasE62gB7JwQFW0u2EM0efyofF+Go7p9okFsIMt XbAX4PF0SFcBqSD+g7lQML02FIbLevR8IoKbhQXbjTJUD1mxFEYPuUNxnq7i77VfNqq0 tgIlTCC6H4NcemOOBLNy78bcssWqWN/cPGaDjbrjE12/D+OMke4qybnFlwK2dWRk/MU/ UgLIQzc6pv8Lvrz2RvrdnLYrArX5ox/XTvdBCEe2e9PrOKtsImJy1BMN8D5QEivRnRSd KthV2E9QM2IYRwk2tlrSmXnLf0JOe9Jyj+AedMUO+7nxnQpzP9AR7G9iI+icc3ZXh+nE vW+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKsYdm87z9by1KYrLH0cxfplN81hKi3EZrBx3sgdOHQ6tGO5esokG/t9MRs8XKevJcZAPrm4OMRFkNw2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.48.86 with SMTP id w83mr5850619oiw.105.1459367063143; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.204.19 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:44:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:44:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: Andrew Gould To: John McDonnell Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:44:32 -0000 The universal wifi adapters were made for older DVD and Blu-ray players that came with ethernet ports for network access. Since they are accessed via ethernet ports using standard networking protocols, not drivers are needed. The adapters are configured using a web browser. They can be powered via USB port or AC adapter. Two commonly available (in the USA) models are made by Netgear: WNCE2001 adn WNCE3001 http://www.netgear.com/home/products/connected-entertainment/gaming-home-theater/WNCE2001.aspx http://www.netgear.com/home/products/connected-entertainment/gaming-home-theater/WNCE3001.aspx Have fun! Andrew On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:37 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Gould > Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? > > When I have a computer with wifi compatibility issues, I prefer to use the > universal wifi adapters that attach to ethernet ports rather than usb > ports. > > Best of luck, > > Andrew > > ------------------ > > Can you provide some more information on these adapters? Somehow, this is > the first I've ever heard of them. Are they powered by the Ethernet port or > do they need to plug into a USB port for power? I'm assuming there has to > be > some sort of driver for them in order to provide PSK or 802.1x as well as > what SSID to connect to? > > If you have a link handy to information on them, that would be great. I'm > going to give Google a try, but my Google-foo isn't always the greatest > when > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, so any pointers in the right direction > will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > John > > -- > John McDonnell > Penn Cambria School District > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 21:04:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D96EAE3AA1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com (mail-io0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00D3218CB for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id g185so92362573ioa.2 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ES4T7bv6OFrbfr9XfNJGsJUdXny1WtAffbehIyQ96Xo=; b=H+3kHnoz7jcTb+jP7yDErSCMUJTI/hSQQga3lBhQIXXOqfDTCHCCia/lI0UqmmE8XS HH/T4wGdCx0gR5uo1Wf1EJAjYWx3B0sCQwJYKK4qtdVAwi4P1r3pZI6olZJNGtsejhVu lorT5FedqV+wWEJFxDt4++Lb9vH5r55fPiqnUl5960hJha3GmlyT7H0WFwUAaVTUTMt7 ueC+6z6rQU2DS+DN6zA5LYJuU4J+cFk9bE4b4Q/1zOxng70QclxfbzHTEEktKLrm6CGQ XnNOEMJIY/JwYufwNwegco6wwemmY7Do0vFVs72MudWk+PxFr4mj6dqCJllNK4hI+JFV g2BQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIMiWuA9q+TXgiZZOYb6SmBYCo16TxeuxOe9D2Bb7WOSNp+RsmYOO7wsguv4UJnYQ== X-Received: by 10.107.132.88 with SMTP id g85mr2664313iod.95.1459371843608; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-133-17.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.133.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id rq2sm2512026igb.8.2016.03.30.14.04.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:04:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Felix Friedlander Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:04:01 -0500 Message-ID: <8660w3vfsu.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:04:10 -0000 Felix Friedlander writes: > I think what might be helpful would be a list of what *not* to buy. Here’s what I’ve found: > > * Broadcom wireless cards are a no-go. (Broadcom Ethernet is fine though.) > * Stay away from Skylake at the moment if you want maximal hardware support. Most issues will probably be fixed over time, but right now it’s not quite perfect. > * Several laptops have EFI implementations known to cause problems - look before you buy. > > Other than this, FreeBSD has played fairly OK with most laptop hardware I’ve tried. > > Anyone want to add to this? Is Broadwell graphics support coming along, or should that be avoided as well? Avoid anything cheap. Just about anything you'll find for less than $500 USD will be designed only with the latest version of Windows in mind. As far as laptops go, the risk may potentially greater for anything *not* based primarily on Intel hardware. Intel's official drivers are open-source, making *BSD/Linux support much more comprehensive. That's not to say that non-Intel hardware won't work, and some newer Intel hardware can be problematic. But it's much easier for the devs to make working drivers for Intel than anything else, so you're likely to see better support for it sooner. I'd also add that no matter what hardware you get, there are some things for which there just can't be any guarantee. Suspend-to-RAM will may or may not work, for instance, since damn near nobody follows the ACPI standard to the letter. That tends to be worse with low-end, consumer-grade laptops, though. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 21:59:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2629BAE35BA for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com (mail-io0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E26AB1E5C for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id a129so84800755ioe.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:59:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=MpKmszv52qJsaTNkSqOkbbch61wdBE/9jcfdMELJpjI=; b=GGdChDsQK/S3Lw2njltnWePjEMbqZyK9776lnaHHMG/IITUK8CexPnxy6rAFmuNnx1 Ok5pLhkuH/irUsuuy970su1Me18SSg8OcC1cYkDnTG346B132bj0gUDRoRzqAQrp9Ba9 RXxqDA1lfxt1w2tQU8COOX/W35o/U0bu1n/vCSBwMzFnht0ehWik1MyesOHWJEnni2vB e8ZtN4HgS0rN2xXGKZQOm6N1jlblBj+qNTM6tmb2lcBvp0F+vTL8TEn/6F5KapH+4Ihz Z5BRlrMKFXj3eXK3dct9PE/aD4vg0oWVXC9DTZV3iNf7yz9WfdLUsNMdKTIBwyqLH5Ot +0nw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJ778NJVQUE0Ce3OU9zZglBhrh0/BYc9iqvVgpBzwVQtWvsAsM/YeDhaIp9TixOiw== X-Received: by 10.107.163.84 with SMTP id m81mr1398935ioe.105.1459373664658; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-133-17.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.133.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 203sm2559710ioo.30.2016.03.30.14.34.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <56FBA0C2.3080109@lightandshadow.tv> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Dennis Steinkamp Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" In-reply-to: <56FBA0C2.3080109@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:34:22 -0500 Message-ID: <864mbnvee9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:59:19 -0000 Dennis Steinkamp writes: > Hi, > > exactly, this is what i wanted to do. > Thank you (all) very much for your help. :) > Regards > > Dennis > > Am 30.03.2016 um 11:31 schrieb Gabor Radnai: >> Hi, >> >> If I understand correctly OP wants to use Windows feature called 'Previous >> Version' off from BSD filer. >> This can be done on FreeBSD + Samba4 adding followings to smb4.conf: >> >> vfs objects = shadow_copy2 >> shadow:format = %Y-%m-%d_%H.%M.%S--1h >> shadow:sort = desc >> shadow:mountpoint = >> shadow:snapdir = .zfs/snapshot >> shadow:localtime = yes >> >> format is customizable and zfs snapshot should be aligned accordingly >> obviously. >> >> Hope it helps. Ah, I see. I jumped to the conclusion you wanted a web interface because I thought you wanted to allow users to directly control ZFS filesystems, which isn't possible through Windows. I didn't even know "shadow copy" was a thing. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 00:53:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F80AE101C for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 00:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from mx-relay16.cloudservice.ag (mx-gate16.cloudservice.ag [81.20.94.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0224E1151 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 00:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis@lightandshadow.tv) Received: from fw1.hostedoffice.ag ([81.20.90.82]) by mx-gate16.cloudservice.ag; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:52:30 +0200 Received: from EX10HUB4.hosting.inetserver.de (unknown [10.20.10.72]) by qhexrelay1.hosting.inetserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12307175C58; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:52:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.153] (80.128.236.218) by mail.hostedoffice.ag (10.20.10.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:52:29 +0200 Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS snapshots and "previous versions" To: Brandon J.Wandersee References: <56FBA0C2.3080109@lightandshadow.tv> <864mbnvee9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> CC: From: Dennis Steinkamp Message-ID: <56FC74C9.3090800@lightandshadow.tv> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:52:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864mbnvee9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [80.128.236.218] X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: e299f49b-79fd-4cde-afcd-99df35de8a6e X-hostedoffice-tnef: done X-cloud-security-sender: dennis@lightandshadow.tv X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate16 with 789A4422103 X-cloud-security-connect: fw1.hostedoffice.ag[81.20.90.82], TLS=0, IP=81.20.90.82 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2045 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 00:53:07 -0000 I probably just didn`t explain it good enough. Thank you guys for your help, i get back to you if i can`t get it to work for some reason. Bye Dennis Am 30.03.2016 um 23:34 schrieb Brandon J.Wandersee: > Dennis Steinkamp writes: > >> Hi, >> >> exactly, this is what i wanted to do. >> Thank you (all) very much for your help. :) >> Regards >> >> Dennis >> >> Am 30.03.2016 um 11:31 schrieb Gabor Radnai: >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I understand correctly OP wants to use Windows feature called 'Previous >>> Version' off from BSD filer. >>> This can be done on FreeBSD + Samba4 adding followings to smb4.conf: >>> >>> vfs objects = shadow_copy2 >>> shadow:format = %Y-%m-%d_%H.%M.%S--1h >>> shadow:sort = desc >>> shadow:mountpoint = >>> shadow:snapdir = .zfs/snapshot >>> shadow:localtime = yes >>> >>> format is customizable and zfs snapshot should be aligned accordingly >>> obviously. >>> >>> Hope it helps. > Ah, I see. I jumped to the conclusion you wanted a web interface because > I thought you wanted to allow users to directly control ZFS filesystems, > which isn't possible through Windows. I didn't even know "shadow copy" > was a thing. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 05:02:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41040AE4542 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27461A74 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1alUkS-00056U-JV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:02:25 +0200 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:02:24 +0200 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:02:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Recovering from X "upgrade" disaster [was: how to downgrade X server] Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:02:35 -0000 Please, can anyone help? I'm trying to get a previously working Lenovo E520 X installation working again. Background: On Friday, 25 Mar 2016 1:52 PM -0400, Will Parsons wrote: > I purposely held off on upgrading the to new X server for over a year > now for fear of breakage, but yesterday I upgaded to the latest Xorg > server along with the associated video and input drivers and am left > with a black screen upon starting the X server. > > Since I can't figure out how to solve the problem, I'd simply like to > go back to the previously installed software, but the documentation is > unclear on how to do so. I have the saved versions of the previous > packages in /usr/ports/packages, but doing the naive (and apparently > incorrect): > > # pkg install /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz is not a valid > package: > no manifest found > pkg: No packages available to install matching > '/usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1' have been found in the repositories > > It should be possible to re-install from the saved packages, right? > But how? >From the replies I've so far had, it appears that: My impression that I could that easily recover from a breakage after "updgrading" X was sadly mistaken because the saved packages that I so carefully relied on to recover from this kind of disaster were useless, because they were the *old* packages, not the *new* packages. And after all this time, I had finally convinced myself that when I went to pkgng (about a year and a half ago), it was a good decision. It's taken a while to realise the consequences. The hardware in question (Lenovo Edge E520) doesn't appear to be particularly unusual (and was in fact working perfectly well previous to my attempt to "upgrade"). Is there anyone who can give me hope of recovering this system? (I *really* don't want to trash it and reinstall. And even if I did, would there be any reason to think it would work?) I'm desparate for a solution. -- Will From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 05:20:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4D4AE47C9 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C6EB1F2C for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2V5KS21027103 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:20:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u2V5KSjP027100; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:20:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:20:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: gyliamos@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering from X "upgrade" disaster [was: how to downgrade X server] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:20:28 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:20:30 -0000 On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Will Parsons wrote: > The hardware in question (Lenovo Edge E520) doesn't appear to be > particularly unusual (and was in fact working perfectly well previous > to my attempt to "upgrade"). > > Is there anyone who can give me hope of recovering this system? > (I *really* don't want to trash it and reinstall. And even if I did, > would there be any reason to think it would work?) > > I'm desparate for a solution. Sorry about the late reply, I was hoping someone who had the same machine might respond. The only thing I can suggest to try is adding xrandr --auto to .xinitrc just before it runs the window manager. Otherwise, please ask on the freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org mailing list. I'm sure it can work, just don't know why it is not working now. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 05:40:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB232AE4A73 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdyoco@educatorlabs.org) Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6CCD1653 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdyoco@educatorlabs.org) Received: by mail-ig0-x234.google.com with SMTP id cl4so119019054igb.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:40:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=educatorlabs-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Je3z2B8MR2iYC3JSVzcgluF10b0IIMvhOuHC8l5UklQ=; b=FnbAsiqURzLq5+QFBY3lkuGOxrQWmOMiAljnDY02V9uWm/zW7FLzfC76UKtG1U+UwJ EggzcJqKrJN3pipNkk3cHFHPzkQyULRpT0U7kRAlgfm9TIIiOf+eG9J7OLJnStCk9iAh EghGvXIapq5LT1WxIxvxMoQ2jvxvibZG8CwJAC3Oy5GazvVtLSiHtMqP9TFUbkcBxFj/ eINd4ZrodBSCcLsYAI7qyHJLuRTK5ImElnfsHF5scjiLrt8RX5uO4N5Uvv6YuXishuC5 VO1NjEr1UV7E5T+11BgHDerZucGv9UTSU3CRLwEJRGqdBkb7pYobXnJL0ZJvKtLL+cjJ XxQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Je3z2B8MR2iYC3JSVzcgluF10b0IIMvhOuHC8l5UklQ=; b=fSN0WAdBvh/il0TAFrSSUK1QJNuMQVRzkX+Crfp1TUzNOxgerHfessVWOqyh00z/7E VjmDSNyqGVrvocgz1HFaoyqUesdFBzxX6RqrioS1iysxEemBOEPSiUtIHb9+tuEG1i+I gSMuCPH2o4RbDsWTolPLPTL2ymnHUAeZPorqOjRRuKQO5MYgTHKSAcYPdxXLHT+1kpkI ZfZ/VHc/yU0A00Srgb8+EAVT2UTqO54oiE6SlzlikYowmEGafuqHYNJw3LtbVSWWDr95 UOlT6ip958Kps870L2K3UVnCA+8XTFoByJXW3Aym4Ks7dfzV3bz7ArJUyGTUG1hFiZLd Rw4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLD5t7/Zr6Oui6ThonB+EGkGKvuWIlt2YrMO9NpbFpe2CXrXlbx+Np9iwupNNOVXWeWEKFVkT6hV3qPMA== X-Received: by 10.50.28.105 with SMTP id a9mr714173igh.94.1459402846910; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:40:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.154.204 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jasmine Dyoco Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:40:27 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Lots of helpful resources for college students! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:40:48 -0000 Hi! The college experience is an exciting chapter in life, but preparing for it can be daunting. Since graduation is right around the corner for many high schoolers, EducatorLabs has created a list of resources that we think will help simplify the transition for students. Please feel free to share these with your audience (perhaps here: http://nsa.kpu-m.ac.jp/gijutu/python/man-bsd-ja/gallery/npgallery.html?) -- they=E2=80=99ll be so excited to have this information! *Here are a few resources that are helpful for college preparation:* 6 Tips to Get You Mentally Prepared for College Student Loan Calculator: Conquer Debt *The web has great research tools for students who are deciding which program to pursue. Here are a few they may find helpful:* Top Factors to Consider When Choosing a College Engineering Programs Computer Science Programs MCAT Preparation *There=E2=80=99s also that little trick of paying for education. The good n= ews is there are several organizations and companies offering awards to all kinds of students. Here are some unique scholarship opportunities:* Student Academy Awards 2016 Green Home Improvement Scholarship Waterlogic=E2=80=99s Clean Water Scholarship The Rover College Scholarship I hope you find these valuable, but email me if you don=E2=80=99t and we wo= n=E2=80=99t contact you again. Best, Jasmine Jasmine Dyoco jdyoco@educatorlabs.org =C7=80 http://educatorlabs.org/ 2054 Kildaire Farm Rd. #204 =C7=80 Cary, NC =C7=80 27518 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 08:57:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E88DAE49F8 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from int.linkmaster@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x246.google.com (mail-yw0-x246.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E568E1EF2 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from int.linkmaster@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x246.google.com with SMTP id g127so120078167ywf.0 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 01:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to; bh=viOaSJXMlUvRDb9PGBx8qyvrA3Tjasl+yuScre9g4m0=; b=Hmf7Yty5e53KKJoYvmbcPCPD4yx8n7riKYN3YcFYFUxLQTQ3chED7dQoCCC9hx6Eao B2dIuwScja2oRsaAb0Iy7CBEdCI3Ye14npnnaY0Hm8sde3tOXO2hihzFsRdUodLERB0L +9AW6CZg/Lbeu2GoZWGojkx6WJmn925Nr3Ba9xPwFc5UpSBhVSGTSJNVK2AhDNBdZuav ZqCrxVOY8UF4MjB7Qer+HHOdNsyXKOuDzwBgA9QI8xYLzfTAwCfw3918DfKbvvLTgJu5 XKL1pytKIAMykNyQ4Zu+EZiVceuVPHeMYOErHzV5SA1+aGdAyHPnTyvAKaZczNqvqeof OVWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to; bh=viOaSJXMlUvRDb9PGBx8qyvrA3Tjasl+yuScre9g4m0=; b=GkUIfElk/7V77PZ99aRxeiR6Ph29+GRZUzHXxNQ9EPDaxplhA28PehyyS4AVBf4IeM aBAbN1y8r8KFE2oWKWOBZ+vZRN8SKgyn0ATCZ+mD2Id7P7v0WIseSPyfp81hIvp1AuUk lCaeF3hBGV8gyz9Qv/kCZlZIWqpmt7cZHdckw+pggy/AgKnKBG4hoCOmzkOo6dyfEnOV DlCD/Y9oYsoVdLcGx7x7YpZClOBtja/XfyIFR5VwXBAUnajOe4sfhkKHebDbtSZds0lx stdSJ/BbSlLaj9BzJ1O4r74o4ui25kqhjOOhUiyFpAw/g4+XtBXBMnJYj9laL+CBCX6+ +MtA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIdy/lbG+jqUmtwgeuXr5o9+Q3MJWmMp6ivhGNuERoWSaWncC5KmrQqKs7p8bJcfwOwLbIhdJNPGj4jkQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.202.200 with SMTP id m191mr7465905ywd.22.1459414619045; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 01:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001a11482302f2c88d052f547149@google.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:56:59 +0000 Subject: Sub:Outsource Autocad Drafting Services From: Mary Jose To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:57:00 -0000 *Dear owner of freebsd.org,* *I am Mary Jose - Business Manager of CAD Conversion company located in Bangalore,India.We have over 14 Full-time Autocad drafters and 3d modellers working In-house.We have high speed internet connection with power back in our office facility.We support customers from US and Europe region on regular basis.We can support your company regular basis with cost effective process.* *Our Highlights:* *We are having over 5 years experience in Autocad drafting services.* *We convert old scans/sketches as per your standard drawings.* *We use layers/font/title block as per your standard.* *We can do all kinds of paper to cad conversion services.* *We can do all kind of entry from drawings to your system.* *Below are the Options:* *1. Whether its one time project or Long-term we can allocate CAD Staff on your project.* *2. If your project need custom tool learning we can learn quickly.* *3. We can allocate full-time Monthly staff remotely based on your need.* *Our Pricing:* *Our Hourly price is: 8$ USD* *Full-time Monthly CAD staff: 800$ USD [160 Hr]* *Payment can be made by Paypal or Bank transfer.* *We are mainly looking for Sub:Outsource Autocad Drafting Services* *Dear owner of freebsd.org,* *I am Mary Jose - Business Manager of CAD Conversion company located in Bangalore,India.We have over 14 Full-time Autocad drafters and 3d modellers working In-house.We have high speed internet connection with power back in our office facility.We support customers from US and Europe region on regular basis.We can support your company regular basis with cost effective process.* *Our Highlights:* *We are having over 5 years experience in Autocad drafting services.* *We convert old scans/sketches as per your standard drawings.* *We use layers/font/title block as per your standard.* *We can do all kinds of paper to cad conversion services.* *We can do all kind of entry from drawings to your system.* *Below are the Options:* *1. Whether its one time project or Long-term we can allocate CAD Staff on your project.* *2. If your project need custom tool learning we can learn quickly.* *3. We can allocate full-time Monthly staff remotely based on your need.* *Our Pricing:* *Our Hourly price is: 8$ USD* *Full-time Monthly CAD staff: 800$ USD [160 Hr]* *Payment can be made by Paypal or Bank transfer.* *We are mainly looking for long-term project so we can be your extended arm from India and we can support all areas to establish network from Indian office.We also welcome you to visit our facility for any advanced training or process implementation.* *please consider us and send your test project so we can execute and show you our capability :)* *Thanks!* *Best Regard,* *Mary Jose* *Business Manger* *CAD Drafting Team* *Bangalore, India.long-term project so we can be your extended arm from India and we can support all areas to establish network from Indian office.We also welcome you to visit our facility for any advanced training or process implementation.* *please consider us and send your test project so we can execute and show you our capability :)* *Thanks!* *Best Regard,* *Mary Jose* *Business Manger* *CAD Drafting Team* *Bangalore, India.* From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 11:00:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B95AE4683 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s36.hotmail.com [65.55.111.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81EBD1501 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP72 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:59:02 -0700 X-TMN: [vm0Jjpxwow1AtZnkwgVDiPMUpPYqF8aW] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 06:58:45 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering from X "upgrade" disaster [was: how to downgrade X server] In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2016 10:59:02.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[55C7EF80:01D18B3C] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:00:10 -0000 On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:02:18 +0000 (UTC), Will Parsons stated: >Is there anyone who can give me hope of recovering this system? >(I *really* don't want to trash it and reinstall. And even if I did, >would there be any reason to think it would work?) I have experienced the same bullshit in the past. That is why I keep a backup of my critical configuration files; ie., Postfix, Dovecot, etcetera. Doing a complete reinstall of the system will probably work just fine. You undoubtedly have some left over remnants on you machine that are screwing up the works. Attempting to discover the problem will undoubtedly take longer than doing a complete reinstall. By the way, if you do decide to complete reinstall the system, be careful about using the older configuration files if the applications they refer to have been updated. Sometimes minuscule changes in newer configuration files can have adverse results on your system. Check out all the documentation before reinstalling. Good luck :) -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 11:14:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13804AE4D08 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milcon@milconland.com) Received: from nine15.com (nine15.com [64.207.186.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Parallels Panel", Issuer "Parallels Panel" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2E7411F4 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milcon@milconland.com) Received: (qmail 30973 invoked by uid 10026); 31 Mar 2016 07:06:56 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: QUEST, Notice to Appear X-PHP-Originating-Script: 10026:post.php(6) : regexp code(1) : eval()'d code(17) : eval()'d code Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:06:56 -0400 From: "State Court" Reply-To: "State Court" Message-ID: <2f14022842891c2fefbc6801459c994d@milconland.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:14:21 -0000 Dear Quest, This is to inform you to appear in the Court on the April 08 for your case hearing. You are kindly asked to prepare and bring the documents relating to the case to Court on the specified date. Note: The case will be heard by the judge in your absence if you do not come. You can find the Court Notice is in the attachment. Sincerely, Norman Griffin, Clerk of Court. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 11:44:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C221FAE3424 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box.niklaas.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9146F1F97 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B820461FAC; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:44:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:44:49 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering from X "upgrade" disaster [was: how to downgrade X server] Message-ID: <20160331114449.GF1256@box.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:44:51 -0000 Carmel [2016-03-31 06:58 -0400] : > On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:02:18 +0000 (UTC), Will Parsons stated: > > >Is there anyone who can give me hope of recovering this system? > >(I *really* don't want to trash it and reinstall. And even if I did, > >would there be any reason to think it would work?) > > I have experienced the same bullshit in the past. That is why I keep a > backup of my critical configuration files; ie., Postfix, Dovecot, > etcetera. Doing the same here. With sysutils/duply it is quite easy. Simply use / as base for the backup include what you need to backup, and exclude the rest in `~/.duply//{conf,exclude}`. Because of wildcard support it's also easy to backup configuration files of jails by doing something like `/**/etc/*`. (In case you intend to backup the next time.) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 31 17:46:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53283AE3A4B for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from mailout10.t-online.de (mailout10.t-online.de [194.25.134.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 183151219 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de (fwd05.aul.t-online.de [172.20.27.149]) by mailout10.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C62CE97EF; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:45:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esprimo.local (T5z6HgZCQhtmOODUOEpqlw+W+pjaU1j0OrgW-tz5iwZexLp2ovlp7NmSdgsDuLCQs3@[217.81.137.117]) by fwd05.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1algfA-2F2QCG0; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:45:44 +0200 Received: from esprimo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by esprimo.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38B045CD9D; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:45:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by esprimo.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2VHjhZ2050504; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:45:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:45:43 +0200 From: Christoph Brinkhaus To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Garc=EDa?= Juanino Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail service do not stop cleanly;it ignores TERM signal Message-ID: <20160331174543.GA40301@esprimo.local> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-ID: T5z6HgZCQhtmOODUOEpqlw+W+pjaU1j0OrgW-tz5iwZexLp2ovlp7NmSdgsDuLCQs3 X-TOI-MSGID: a7eeb003-450a-4899-bba5-f5ccd97e009a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:46:03 -0000 On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:34:29PM +0200, Jos=E9 Garc=EDa Juanino wrote: > Hi, Hello Jos=E9, >=20 > I have noticed that fetchmail service hangs in stop phase. I have the > following in rc.conf: >=20 > fetchmail_enable=3D"YES" > fetchmail_users=3D"juanino" > fetchmail_juanino_polling_interval=3D60 >=20 >=20 > When I have to restart the service, it hangs forever: >=20 > # service fetchmail restart > =3D=3D=3D> fetchmail user: juanino > Stopping fetchmail. > Waiting for PIDS: 9284 >=20 > The only way to stop the service is to send the INT (or KILL) signal: >=20 > # pkill -INT fetchmail >=20 > It seems to be that is ignoring TERM (or HUP) signal. I have faced the same situation. >=20 > Ugly workaround: >=20 > echo "sig_stop=3D\"INT\" " > /etc/rc.conf.d/fetchmail >=20 > to force the INT signal instead of TERM. >=20 > The same issue applies to some other services as polipo. It is not > clear for me if this issue is freebsd specific. Any idea? Some days ago I have seen a related report about 10.3 on the stable mailing list. It has been reported that some services to not stop properly and the enabling of SAVESIGVEC has been detected as a likely trigger. If I remember correctly the proposal was to disable SAVESIGVEC until the real root cause is fixed. may be in the current kernel sources it is already fixed or SAVESIGVEC is re-disabled. I have digged a little bit and found SAVESIGVEC defined in /usr/src/bin/csh/config_p.h. I have simply commented that out=20 and made a new world and a new kernel. This is my current work arround. As said above I am not sure about the current situation. I hope this information helps. Kind regards, Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 03:09:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054C8AE4300 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09CD1269 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DC421AE42FF; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE67AE42FE for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93A151268 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFDAD7882 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:09:05 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :subject:subject:from:from:received:received:received; s= selector1; t=1459480145; x=1461294546; bh=bLJ38t4Cgtm/NRz4wJdE27 RDced5Og521pWdqofLO8A=; b=QCHSJxOnmBeSf4pDVFYp1OTetaQc3B+xLGXgqD vSPQA3C4IDvxurUrvGnPvGonjgXdqGzi6qgDBnHGw1Gm9QzahayRav8Zp54Fx5gA PcDEC6QLoqc1/mM9c0rNFOe3gU706j5KRQgWkXO0AC66Aq26yEWHYOWZtATtOO1Q Yk5HU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id yJXluejSjkSa for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:09:05 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9123D7881 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:09:04 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u3139431014915; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:09:04 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to unlist a package Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:09:04 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 03:09:17 -0000 Hi, I have installed a package (clamav-unofficial-sigs) and later found out that the version from the developer has many fatures that I needed. So I installed the original version directly from github, and the new script lays in place of the package. I am afraid that on the next package update, what I installed by hand will be overwriten. So how can I tell the package system that this very package is not installed anymore, but without doing a delete? Best regards, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 04:45:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A7DAE5E80; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 04:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdavidlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9057311C5; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 04:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdavidlists@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id g185so140048178ioa.2; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:45:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R2jE2RZ3Pi3IujN0GvHfVVdsNMGr29VRqCAw9KaoBIQ=; b=wM+9rR8z7DYdVfSYnEKggRbFMM3nvm7onqHXnG484l5tEeiFsaRwdfQA5NdZKw8wjw PIDIpy+tSYMUejevK36gutqw3Hj7mjO9qmlTlxqTHdQ8G/Ust8LB6WgI015hJaJdcjJM Jmi/E63nWIICAL3jUr0KthEVTOff5sMbry5aialExTbfmm5nAa8oQUZC6Su9DxUPhZJz akibAWVYxMbrmY2EVxNHK6xhHNXH037dnSxO9kD9yM4iRnU+7wRVRcMiBn2cbNrDYYiS pcStgvYob99QWCAxLH4wp6NdboBZwQEg4uVvk5B9iQ7YO0IK40D2Mip6SG+Dh9eIiOXl wxJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R2jE2RZ3Pi3IujN0GvHfVVdsNMGr29VRqCAw9KaoBIQ=; b=AAgcEyAVb/BtEixgXidl46lxAw8MZsm4NcuJSLNFpa3x4rhnJS9Hmo2D6HInGnYbUn fcMGGiF6mNPQcpIuj0OmDAi92QCmwG4gYDw7uEJ5AnqHcR8s9n6ffgcXRy5kKwzEZogB HXYq6UZ1NZQmUR2P2SdVEnzouxF7J0z5KMkqrwuX7kxxXQG8jMiqWSjlhUGXcLLgwGps l/u3UYGLlYIh0TWmMwSe9xp11PG7rRi8AzMEaNzeLew3Meq8xVa7UZj2brSPkrwe8sNF 1RRUzGQzmsvvqG+i78Kb2Muvz7VZ+g91Aj8bCfMWogfONByE0hJY6WSH2JCYogbWmXpt DsJg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKZsnYuzdvUHSrM6WiH8IFExJIwZ1j+crQSoG9Vt4wqcmpOsUdjUsORNBgyRNRryCxcr9XKEGmTGUUJTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.41.211 with SMTP id p202mr8644693iop.4.1459485919817; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: jdavidlists@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.130.130 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:45:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: l69pvbFhzeRFManpfDLdEDmTP2g Message-ID: Subject: Catching core files in read-only jails From: J David To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 04:45:20 -0000 If an application is running on a production server in a read-only jail for security purposes, and it crashes occasionally due to some unknown bug, is there any way to catch a core file? Setting kern.corefile seems to still be relative to the jail. (Or, at least, no corefile is generated.) There are a lot of these processes and they don=E2=80=99t crash very often,= so leaving gdb attached isn=E2=80=99t really feasible either. (It=E2=80=99s b= een tried, but apparently requires a bit more luck than is currently in evidence.) Thusfar all attempts to get it to crash in a controlled/test environment have also been unsuccessful. Does anyone have any ideas for how to find out what=E2=80=99s causing the c= rash? Thanks for any advice! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 05:35:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6965DAE81F9; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 05:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330341AF1; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 05:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE8DF811; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 05:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Catching core files in read-only jails From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13E238) In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:26:24 +0200 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16281C09-B7D2-43C4-B2E1-98AF02DAB24A@elde.net> References: To: J David X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:35:00 -0000 > On 01 Apr 2016, at 06:45, J David wrote: >=20 > If an application is running on a production server in a read-only > jail for security purposes, and it crashes occasionally due to some > unknown bug, is there any way to catch a core file? Wherever you allow it to write core files, would be writable by the jail, at= least those files. It's tempting to recommend a single writable, but no-exe= c and no-suid dir inside the jail, and point cores there. It's an easy fix, a= nd the alternative - allow writes outside the jail - probably isn't any bett= er. If you're concerned about something being persisted in the jail, you can wip= e or even recreate that dir whenever you're starting the jail.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 06:35:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC4EAEA70D for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A0871639 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC99147BE for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/AC99147BE; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: How to unlist a package To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56FE169C.4060803@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:35:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aTwIJlWKRdJ7nOQfJjXOV7CrEtiOTW6q7" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 06:35:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aTwIJlWKRdJ7nOQfJjXOV7CrEtiOTW6q7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ETsj9o8g39pfluhPwDbA1T35m5ITlsGVE" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56FE169C.4060803@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: How to unlist a package References: In-Reply-To: --ETsj9o8g39pfluhPwDbA1T35m5ITlsGVE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2016 04:09, Olivier Nicole wrote: > So how can I tell the package system that this very package is not > installed anymore, but without doing a delete? You can't do that by use of pkg(8) -- you'ld have to directly manipulate the pkg database, which is not recommended. The simplest way to achieve what you want would be to just: pkg delete clamav-unofficial-sigs and then reinstall the developer version. (Should work fine for this port, but in general, this trick will fail if the package you're trying to replace is a dependency of something else, as pkg(8) will reinstall the apparently missing dependnecy on the next update.) The best way of doing this would be to update the clamav-unofficial-sigs port to install the developer version you prefer, and preferably submit your changes so they can be committed to the ports. Cheers, Matthew --ETsj9o8g39pfluhPwDbA1T35m5ITlsGVE-- --aTwIJlWKRdJ7nOQfJjXOV7CrEtiOTW6q7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW/hacXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATjDYP/0MGBRayFwZ0pEbByvHVNEIR ZnfqYMR2AXrJaMRvQiYLPB9WycVvUa9GfvQmDJ4++vJ1wWkaC51QPS0KU1ozvZ6f uhva5sKMpzBDRvsXHryp9kk6yNIvSUJ8lgkMoeNieFI/yz/7+2fee8cNiC2U3L8a bWM+9pwMKbsZF+yrkAdNPapdYkTeQlMaiLcqmGBQnxg5Yp9RZzUc/6yhtt1cu2cH SsE1JYxY7/H0q7QSWudUNUJ3pYEmsEBQM6n0doSbMkQM0UkaHzfuWEgdMjaNhVHr 7E+t1Gf7DL9QlVofMh77DclF+Rw997LU+aGAmVjOPLXUm8Vyq6P5lY2cvuiyr3s8 cxdQtl3CaunYxMlW8FFxCkg6fX3YvOwwMYTwtabdBvVhWkkfEfJx/lnGPOZoX1ZU 9Gd2CGfBg171Wmy3PQs/FAkm/GmjqGOl2J5UzokiaFZ4yVIevB9SxZFoPzzIoQ2C IFTgmSHWLlC7x+qjCupGGZ5NPAbdskNRVZ31k5uc4uaVQAUwffzqDO93fy1C+m+E Iz9qpZt0AsRorKkxhZVd5bw7BQUePD33XTLOKRNrgC09YCmYawBT8IVcoo0eMdd6 +9DSDLGC8br/CFbVChQWb8gi2YGh3PNruB6U07MvrtR6LAgXRR4bHkRmB6jfwd6b 9SYsCjyTE+/fd0+FH5Yf =Nv26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aTwIJlWKRdJ7nOQfJjXOV7CrEtiOTW6q7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 07:23:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDD0AEBE6E for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125EC1439 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:17:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1altKl-000BmN-Jz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:17:31 +0000 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:17:31 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Catching core files in read-only jails Message-Id: <20160401081731.657200a6601b930b76b3da01@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <16281C09-B7D2-43C4-B2E1-98AF02DAB24A@elde.net> References: <16281C09-B7D2-43C4-B2E1-98AF02DAB24A@elde.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:23:05 -0000 On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:26:24 +0200 Terje Elde wrote: > If you're concerned about something being persisted in the jail, you can > wipe or even recreate that dir whenever you're starting the jail. Sounds like a nice job for tmpfs. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 10:28:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3F6AEBCED for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S18.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s18.hotmail.com [65.55.111.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C3241187 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP107 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S18.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:26:53 -0700 X-TMN: [m1a0RPtnSxjVeDSvFWnVm43uElbEkOdq] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:26:34 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPFW Firewall Rule Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2016 10:26:52.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[01F1BA10:01D18C01] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:28:00 -0000 I have two laptops that I use when I travel. I need them to have access to my LDAP server. I tried configuring this in my IPFW firewall rules, but they fail: #!/bin/sh cmd="ipfw -q add" pif="em0" ## Lots of rules - truncated $cmd allow log tcp from any MAC "0C:54:A5:04:BA:DD" to me 389 in via $pif setup keep-state $cmd allow log tcp from any MAC "00:1A:A0:89:CA:EA" to me 389 in via $pif setup keep-state This is the error message repeated twice: ipfw: missing ``to'' If I substitute an IP address and remove the "any MAC "address" it works fine. I got this example from a web search. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 13:08:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D4AAECD4D for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cielo_white@yahoo.com) Received: from nm50-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm50-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5879B12B3 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cielo_white@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1459515911; bh=fWSRH1of8pJUx8K+OOAqE2SBCjldlSvnL3sIwV2CPXg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=jf33AtAF+OoP/Fy1QIIDVuiZN5ciLDv63VBc2678IWzktqRGbCWeY90eyQu7MKXz7sbaQTVDnheYZQe7XK8avi69bPa0gYTJ2zU6oKp3Vt24Y27jzcrb7ex5G2fyIFKptUp59VmL7pgpKw1brGi9uZeevFvrzB4peVlq8VzQ/OaiRqlua/IK4nuUsfyz8UaljpqicSjlmSJ8IZnd2le97YApQ/lapT4RjkF4ArCZT+s/nCcEP1EbvCHQVh+xK8GNL0HzlxAZfIOadSNKnVZDvkXLDJaO4nMuxvBU4+riVbEWRlVX8JXHK0mLEPsZjaRYUXCYRjKXi/CrEPKonFPthA== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm50.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2016 13:05:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm50.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2016 13:02:27 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.170] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2016 13:02:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2016 13:02:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 171705.93754.bm@omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: bsmUJbUVM1lnQJRmn8daAw2NtcbGB1633C6czlw9_JPi9q.xUDLrGYM_7YOw1HC MrQrmSIy0figi7VcXwf8h.M8IYJPQNGMYCKO.oOMk_G483IAASW4L4.yo_BjCjwmTVlMI0eASql4 TH_RpsRkRn0T7J7F6g3gKmMgqhFgp8B7hxt0CmODXIDbPf2cu4wqr_Ur2QjXvcgATqgPzu.SEiZG pg9RaKDzPG1bqZZ4cFJI.XA9548bvKirYhFIzt9AhRRSxK6jpHVRM2iClOOFu8dfH37uiCgz9abI FAroSp3gnmL1bb8clX1i4wKqVM2N8PVxpCNFEdADEpyovo.yXhrD_9JHIyOQcENtYHCX4NvJHPjG OqTwW6t9wp6pyHJLIwjQTW.y0XFz9QgvOf4s4yidc28xvmBST7I.LPGzVoATFKBMIWNvNFXZclVb VwBFtbMZ__w63DszGWkukrEIS95pxdeZ1LcZ7c9m3nTarNLXlx7R7vcmhI327vEvjCRe_gEuVwsy sF9QTIQsEvdtHYVXySa41GDqq9_7IFMvT Received: by 98.138.105.241; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:02:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:02:26 +0000 (UTC) From: istvan konya Reply-To: istvan konya To: Message-ID: <2132386933.803891.1459515746288.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: FreeBSD 9.1 with two RealTek 8169/8169S/8169SB(L)/8110S/8110SB(L) Gigabit Ethernet cards stop to work after heavy traffic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2132386933.803891.1459515746288.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:08:30 -0000 Hello, my FreeBSD 9.1 with two RealTek 8169/8169S/8169SB(L)/8110S/8110SB(L) Gigabit Ethernet cards stop to work after heavy traffic the server work fine from about 2 years, If the traffic don't exceed 100M everything is fine, in the past, the traffic can be up to 300M, but in the last 2 weeks the network cards stops to work after a few seconds of heavy traffic. No another changes was made in this last 2 weeks. re0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xd0100000-0xd01000ff irq 17 at device 5.0 on pci2 re0: Chip rev. 0x10000000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-ma ster, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow re0: Ethernet address: b0:48:7a:80:0b:1d re1: port 0x3400-0x34ff mem 0xd0100400-0xd01004ff irq 18 at device 7.0 on pci2 re1: Chip rev. 0x10000000 re1: MAC rev. 0x00000000 miibus1: on re1 rgephy1: PHY 1 on miibus1 rgephy1: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-ma ster, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow re1: Ethernet address: 64:66:b3:04:bb:13 ifconfig re0 re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8209b ether b0:48:7a:80:0b:1d inet 81.196.63.57 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 81.196.63.63 inet6 fe80::b248:7aff:fe80:b1d%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active ifconfig re1 re1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8209b ether 64:66:b3:04:bb:13 inet 82.77.49.188 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 82.77.49.255 inet6 fe80::6666:b3ff:fe04:bb13%re1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active /etc/rc.conf ipv6_network_interfaces="none" # Default is auto ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="NO" # this is the default ifconfig_re1=" inet 82.77.49.188 netmask 255.255.255.192 broadcast 82.77.49.255" ifconfig_re0=" inet 81.196.63.57 netmask 255.255.255.248" gateway_enable="YES" static_routes="lan0" route_lan0="-net 81.196.63.56/29 81.196.63.57" defaultrouter="82.77.49.129" After reboot, everything is fine, when the traffic don't exceed 100M. Anyone can help me pls Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 14:44:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46ABAEBC81; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x233.google.com (mail-ob0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B36AC1679; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ob0-x233.google.com with SMTP id kf9so123245437obc.1; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:44:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=7ItE0+PZnkAJQBDFY4KoxWZAaC0Y7DeYRxRaDhqltX8=; b=OII/GaVMxGPORIZseJzwVpFt//g/Shm+weKM9X4F0CfQgHDj95rA51TGbu4vykhqMR VtkdtGhvNaCOeUq9Qu3uCXHgG7TlHrJj+GwzQixSb1CiGj+cvMw8TEuHx0yD0u1o276n TxiqbPDN4VHacJ1OlDgivSUzdko2Af0BxzWOmmAgOxrdSw2GkV+v0vpz65vq3WTLkImp D+NQUXCTDlRyX+BOV1stx2rKOcuyKwl9sU20i3QpJtwNHelPqjccrgYW5bNgLphqegqQ VWtE/AkWsSKtuwy3khjjCIBGnF0pIvhrnJQFQ3fnLfGEFSiuhXGezDaI62I1k+1SOm+S xQPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=7ItE0+PZnkAJQBDFY4KoxWZAaC0Y7DeYRxRaDhqltX8=; b=UCFwVh2rW3ucZF2bDviv8DYv0L8MN3rF4dpnxGuT27/AU5guI/o1TArlJ1rwMU8F1C e+9gNgf+MVHDWS4RGFOTdNX9GCGV0r8zNv+HhTUb/CTlNnR6Bgsx1/4UE1Kut0rRxyQf GWtUzGUNLmP0j5bm+z6LFJg16MkoTlDuFw3ieJVbC4Mo4VaiOdDZRB8nri/ebEc6ia/x vR/ViqzuDdxmL+E6vbDPrwUZP1Jz9xdm6ruevxmNJAbZpKgVbSqeZ2i+j5uPN9D65Qpv JHqZKpVe4acXS+rzFr7HqhyWmpO0F0uDxeHiAWuomjwXNZzYUHCguOWuzWZgjXxIxOzp O0tw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJ0DKFStvbPnCGhrQ5FZMAnu3B3c4DauHzUrA8fISuTHymYkhSvpIF/HsFGCXu9XODLqiBTn0INDexjjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.66.169 with SMTP id g9mr3154787obt.49.1459521848870; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: asomers@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.64.138 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:44:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <16281C09-B7D2-43C4-B2E1-98AF02DAB24A@elde.net> References: <16281C09-B7D2-43C4-B2E1-98AF02DAB24A@elde.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:44:08 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -tKk89pHfji5EqFiWKpcuBcNQGc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Catching core files in read-only jails From: Alan Somers To: Terje Elde Cc: J David , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:44:10 -0000 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Terje Elde wrote: > > > > On 01 Apr 2016, at 06:45, J David wrote: > > > > If an application is running on a production server in a read-only > > jail for security purposes, and it crashes occasionally due to some > > unknown bug, is there any way to catch a core file? > > Wherever you allow it to write core files, would be writable by the jail, > at least those files. It's tempting to recommend a single writable, but > no-exec and no-suid dir inside the jail, and point cores there. It's an > easy fix, and the alternative - allow writes outside the jail - probably > isn't any better. > > If you're concerned about something being persisted in the jail, you can > wipe or even recreate that dir whenever you're starting the jail. > > Terje > > And if you are using ZFS, then you should set a quota on /var/coredumps to prevent a frequently crashing program from filling your hard disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 15:11:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE45AEC81F for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam@weboptimizes.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x245.google.com (mail-ig0-x245.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85E091A22 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam@weboptimizes.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x245.google.com with SMTP id su18so41423279igc.1 for ; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 08:11:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=weboptimizes.com; s=google; h=mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to; bh=S3DRgPLp3w1L7RAGCXYaHhzTRwfgRfCBR7uEWXAxD54=; b=CLHT5kubO20mXuiV3I87MNIh+oyCKKVwkk1pbl1bFKWz3p45eWZVeNjK5B9GREwCQu 6KNbZcg5DN33+fGoh82qj3pQoNapiF+Ks04eDu+iedQdWFU5FwpKekERuJYGDMEgxq+g xB5XeRIqwgIXdBRxx6EV5FelVJLfG2GSqNEjQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to; bh=S3DRgPLp3w1L7RAGCXYaHhzTRwfgRfCBR7uEWXAxD54=; b=kgXOd/ba1At2u0npbYm5eUcw4thjLdmA1kypbWKKwmkQKLs+IQzN67g3OHHCvOxZrh cr83BXNDagARNzFAgEd1P081Pjr9VmLA0+1plg5EbeTkcuxyfyaN9HxDucNAEpRd/II1 /tlm5BlRhN7wGJ++y1dSceGkx7NGK6ISUYyHNgNPVAT88H8A6eOslYyGCE5gGc9Idnyt q5H4L/tHMc02PqlwSWH2cYwIR9ZTREQV10vWBiiLUGVUz2NOBkeHEbBiuIlzRQX6meah lm9H5PKUe8VqzKikc95YBNFiwhav8g1fGq9B93RVzUcRk8A6sTn574e2omVg2MLT+P3i wDQg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJiqJ36AajrQbnpsoIBTohXC2WEn+c7Kn5ONB2hgmrhH2K90LSqLQ99ch/LPBo3+m1nswznwjbz09PJ+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.29.129 with SMTP id k1mr3253399obh.23.1459523490828; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 08:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001a11c23078365f50052f6dcb0c@google.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:11:30 +0000 Subject: Let Google Help Your Customers Find You From: Adam Gibbs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:11:31 -0000 Hi *freebsd.org* Team, Hope you are doing well. I thought you might like to know some of the reasons why you are not getting enough organic & social media traffic for your website. I would like to update you that, your website is still not ranked on the top pages of Google SERPs for your popular keywords (Products). Your loss is your competitor's gain i.e. the traffic which could have generated quality sales for you goes to your competitors as they rank well in the Search Engine Result Pages (SERPs) organically. *Reasons: * *1.* HTML and other on-page errors are present on your website. *2. * Your home page rank is *Very Low**.* *3.* Duplicate or low quality contents present in your website without any regular update. *4.* Need to update fresh contents on your website and blogs as per the latest Google guideline. *5.* Social media profile needs to be updated regularly. These are few factors that I came to know after a quick review of your website. If you want to know hundred such points about what your site needs, and are curious to know what our working together would involve, then I would be glad to provide you with further detailed analysis in the form of a *FREE SITE ANALYSIS REPORT*. Long gone are the days when Google used to give priority to websites with huge number of links. Now Google counts each and every detail to verify if your website is relevant to the keywords you are promoting for. A single un-wanted link or a duplicate content can lead your website to be penalized by Google. To brief you about the company: We do SEO, SMO and reputation management for our clients. Our team of dedicated Google Analytic and Adwords certified professionals excel in promoting and increasing the visibility of a website in various search engines (including the latest Google Panda and Penguin updates), which will directly help in increasing traffics for your website. Unlike other SEO companies we do not believe in talking rather we believe in delivering what we promise to our clients. We provide guaranteed services or money back-guarantee to all our clients who consider working with us. This email just tells you the fraction of things we do, our optimization process involves many other technical factors which can be sent to you on your request. If you would like to know more about our services then please write us. If you are getting rigid by paying a huge amount in PPC then Organic listing by using white hat technique will be definitely a right choice for you. Feel free to email us or alternatively you can provide your best time and phone number to call you. P.S: - This is our marketing strategy that we use the Gmail account. Once you reply us back, the next communication I will do is from my corporate email ID. Let me know your thoughts and looking forward to work together. Best Regards, *Adam Gibbs | Senior SEO Advisor* Skype: adamgibbs9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Note: 1: If you are interested I will send more details on our "corporate identity", "company profile", "why you should choose us?", "Price list", "money back" etc. in my next mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 17:39:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEB7AE66C2 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC3F015E4 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u31HdliF059482; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 04:39:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 04:39:46 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Carmel cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Rule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160402033719.N39547@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:39:58 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 617, Issue 6, Message: 7 On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:26:34 -0400 Carmel wrote: > I have two laptops that I use when I travel. I need them to have access > to my LDAP server. I tried configuring this in my IPFW firewall rules, > but they fail: > > #!/bin/sh > cmd="ipfw -q add" > pif="em0" > > ## Lots of rules - truncated > > $cmd allow log tcp from any MAC "0C:54:A5:04:BA:DD" to me 389 in via $pif setup keep-state > $cmd allow log tcp from any MAC "00:1A:A0:89:CA:EA" to me 389 in via $pif setup keep-state > > This is the error message repeated twice: > > ipfw: missing ``to'' > > If I substitute an IP address and remove the "any MAC "address" it works > fine. I got this example from a web search. Can anyone tell me what I > am doing wrong? There are a few issues with this. 1) MAC addresses can only be examined on ethernet packets, at layer2, which requires that sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw be set to 1, adding another two passes to ipfw's examination of packets. See section PACKET FLOW in ipfw(8) for an explanation of how this works and an example set of rules to separate layer2 (ethernet) flows from layer3 (IP) flows. Search ipfw(8) for 'layer-*2' - assuming viewing in less(1) - to catch both 'layer2' and 'layer-2' references, which is mildly tacky. 2) the order of 'to' and 'from' addresses is reversed at layer2, so the syntax should be more like 'MAC any "0C:54:A5:04:BA:DD" if I read your intent right. See section RULE OPTIONS '{ MAC | mac } dst-mac src-mac' 3) I don't think you can match statefully at layer2, but may be wrong. 4) most relevant to your stated purpose, MAC addresses are only used on local networks (wired or wireless) and are not transmitted over the IP internet, so you can't use this method remotely - except perhaps via a VPN tunnel, appearing as a local network, but I'm not sure about that. 5) MAC addresses, even locally, are easy to spoof and while useful are not a security measure per se. I think you need to find another method to identify and authenticate remote callers to LDAP. I know very close to nothing about that, except that there are LDAP-savvy people here .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 18:06:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3851FB00034 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7229106E for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id p65so2711973wmp.1 for ; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:06:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lJ9hXfPcKqQgDxH5bO7fGBFbyYqopPuMWPjhkFrlpp8=; b=le6qy/T0sxaJglz1YqlDjzARyeDvU7JtJeK4UkejfkIewY5q1DS/riRwnxQ/GMAsFL +k/+PS/eH865K3OyMLCzvBvvx9ltfiHI1YwaNT+n8vqg4i6f4+113CcB5dODZiOZbUrf 5ov5cGIadJAZgyn50ebajd6HqngMsDnZ9Rf/BtvmXu1rjVgP2a94rBxQx+TmrZMfHuVA oNgJN+hY7hIa6SpmzgJygbzz9Zz+rj69XUQCXRxsPC0Mfulog0UQpoBc3y2Zp0Yj7ZLG JXq2c4R1zp50wojrfMktF9pRaVe3QEsbdygS7ejIpEBPKL+d0IlE1+UDAje8nRo140u/ jFXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lJ9hXfPcKqQgDxH5bO7fGBFbyYqopPuMWPjhkFrlpp8=; b=U0ZDP8UxRWbDXPPqIg1ic931U892V4NeV3/YIMfUjtMEUvnVuXZ+7xOxtUNPB+mYVO gjU6Wf0J1fQrIeBO1CCt+RzNJ5lx04wi8pYym7WdSK8mv9EdGPkj1YES+u4LoD2a+44Y uZJBC9eegrTr387vXgg+Fo3ydbrS8bxy8VeGHF/YYBn7a+5uWDon4Y+1kJTVqBnm5cOQ wAEQUyVwDi3fce/mZT+/QlkxZy7j5QD0rctK6ZuG9eo+DBwxEWi8GEGtRFx7/mMlOXjD UmmUY2Uj4DyZeI08MefjyKUKtpm01vPqplXK7qslwez9ZyyRRlPCH1UB8A2h4gZ61HjM MawQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIexRv84Astrc3RW+Kn3ZlfSTjDhVhHkIQfIFXKikU+DRwlIfIUX5GYS+JZPGIwX7zVw2XonjKjM9C92g== X-Received: by 10.194.61.19 with SMTP id l19mr22799367wjr.4.1459533991911; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:06:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.56.200 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 11:05:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 21:05:52 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Rule To: Carmel Cc: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:06:34 -0000 On 1 April 2016 at 13:26, Carmel wrote: > I have two laptops that I use when I travel. I need them to have access > to my LDAP server. I tried configuring this in my IPFW firewall rules, > but they fail: > > #!/bin/sh > cmd="ipfw -q add" > pif="em0" > > ## Lots of rules - truncated > > $cmd allow log tcp from any MAC "0C:54:A5:04:BA:DD" to me 389 in via $pif > setup keep-state > $cmd allow log tcp from any MAC "00:1A:A0:89:CA:EA" to me 389 in via $pif > setup keep-state > > This is the error message repeated twice: > > ipfw: missing ``to'' > > If I substitute an IP address and remove the "any MAC "address" it works > fine. I got this example from a web search. Can anyone tell me what I > am doing wrong? > > Setup OpenVPN on your firewall and connect to it using self-signed certs. Pretty easy! MAC addresses will not work when you are roaming. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 20:21:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365A3AEC817 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 20:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x230.google.com (mail-yw0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CFFD1046 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 20:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x230.google.com with SMTP id g127so184969214ywf.2 for ; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=xKwIa3wWUipgLK2JiWUEd8By72VKCh8XSKSUNqeI7jk=; b=ZXOt0XernATzV5+pc0RfXsahYBeHgueVarT6yvTMuPKKIuuf8/yLwDNQkxlgHT8nm/ Bfa6Uv5d4WKJoyQmgiFYoTVa9OCxYRBwYIfeKjAHnt2g+5K0Rx4P9XwVXcnDFAtif6Gv wUXaUaCzwa+JA/h5f0KarZ1fXjSenyKkCTvRICvkRHDyvnPfCFNSVet8qnSrt3PTRwP+ Yt+W4afnwldoFLBUECuxuaAT6jGC4j0wOExQlfTfZuKmdocTR7ZAPT0n1zK4CAhewGMn fH5T3xPv4tNejFlpr5XOowF+kbkS1AkYqXoCP6OStUKkYGX6lF/wzRhrSkGeB5sW1fKG wWaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=xKwIa3wWUipgLK2JiWUEd8By72VKCh8XSKSUNqeI7jk=; b=Yg26dG0yjUboEZVjBcRCGYEx2JWSOBIRknBVlb+Yd1IA+aUhE5QRPrJwX4erUTpqhi nVgVuTIDDFCjG1Fd15sv3hyyWJOCPrEhDtz8FMll6GXDTBMW2rcpa55yqxWh2bjkBCmE H7jyW2gcbo1N7QQtEw48lwHzlMKwZzTrgcLiIu7u4uWUFMb1FzdJJewd2V2p2RGnaQbX XyKokppIpEnd4WyF61MgTp3Ko+y66SZ4C/solBwP1aVAG2vo0DJUc52lUSo8M1Qami+r YP3dIWom7+hT6hPzd7SsVdStqkgAfP9thkWOj++b73R9SWkM9ft0QHFaMlHId96NfubD aRsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJZUHnj2Hn0tZ2xhqsCO40DvLJDN7XgRc/t/JfqhS9wc5StJlxWy8XJHbW2qXUzkPYH1cqQFLKEMWUqGQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.16.15 with SMTP id g15mr2587137vki.22.1459542069043; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.31.174.132 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:21:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:21:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? From: Sergei G To: David Christensen Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 20:21:10 -0000 Older Dell laptop has been ok for me D630 (I don't remember if wireless worked or not). On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:12 PM, David Christensen < dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > freebsd-questions: > > Thank you for the replies so far. :-) > > > Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed > and validated against? > > > Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* > laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: > > I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work > correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever > free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualization. > > > David > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 20:28:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955C6AECB34 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 20:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A7BD1691 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 20:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A0ED3CD77; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:28:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u31KS3kv003684; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:28:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:28:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Sergei G Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? Message-Id: <20160401222803.a9d02ebb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 20:28:12 -0000 On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:21:08 -0700, Sergei G wrote: > Older Dell laptop has been ok for me D630 (I don't remember if wireless > worked or not). I have successfully instantiated a Dell Latitude D630 with FreeBSD 10. Its wireless adapter is supported. All other components (such as regular network, audio and docking station) also work as expected. However, that is a quite "outdated" machine, but this definitely does _not_ imply that it's useless. I made it run Gnome which (in retrospect) was a stupid decision. ;-) Other older devices, such as IBM Thinkpad (now Lenovo) models T60p, R61i and R500 also work good with FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 22:02:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FBFAEB942 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13A961502 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u31M2qwL068376 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u31M2qqe068373; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon cc: Sergei G , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? In-Reply-To: <20160401222803.a9d02ebb.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> <20160401222803.a9d02ebb.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:02:58 -0000 On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:21:08 -0700, Sergei G wrote: >> Older Dell laptop has been ok for me D630 (I don't remember if wireless >> worked or not). > > I have successfully instantiated a Dell Latitude D630 with > FreeBSD 10. Its wireless adapter is supported. All other > components (such as regular network, audio and docking station) > also work as expected. However, that is a quite "outdated" > machine, but this definitely does _not_ imply that it's > useless. I made it run Gnome which (in retrospect) was a > stupid decision. ;-) > > Other older devices, such as IBM Thinkpad (now Lenovo) models > T60p, R61i and R500 also work good with FreeBSD. I've used Dell Core2 systems like the E1505 successfully. Don't recall which wireless card came with it, but I generally replace them with an Atheros card. No problems otherwise. Such a system is usable if you are willing to be somewhat patient for building world or very large ports. An SSD is not a luxury, it makes any system much more usable. My current notebook is an Acer Aspire 5740 with a first-generation i5. It has 10-stable, and I have not bothered to experiment with suspend. This will hopefully soon be replaced by a Dell Haswell machine. The 15W CPU should make for a cooler-running system. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 2 03:50:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CACAEB42C for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 03:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@email4.live.com.eg) Received: from server5.live.com.eg (server5.live.com.eg [5.189.151.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05BFA1BC7 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@email4.live.com.eg) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=email4.live.com.eg; s=default; h=List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type:MIME-Version:To:Reply-To:From:Subject:Date:Message-ID; bh=KOdOx7XgeHRWODycUJr4Jc2Iz3GOp8sJFc3gP6i5QXA=; b=FEJLN+x94Milbe3tVdg0g/w/8uhqDjnGWgkNA3JOxoRs8y9g7w0p40uyCChdfsKteVWHXdIi5MpJRg6Dp53LYLlOdPb0tPrpzXvAIswvX9TJR7bN5T24Fsq9Qk1n2f8M34hJa8rLrgY1izg40KBYTIF687N7A00DREz6v4ivSFzVt3KNDn18S/s/O7I3by/i5FLLSUuHS3LY40jBuBGdU3pP+HFYpp6aLlX1nY9AbuH72k+/65qQUx7H8S+U5yLgF0id8bcAq+Xn0p5cbuIdeqyKjOzTcKgni878dsg2ZE3LoElOzDEhUR0IZgPzP0W5ki4/mR9lGbEsVOXq2KGlQw==; Received: from server1.live.com.eg ([5.189.150.200]:47489 helo=email.live.com.eg) by server5.live.com.eg with esmtpa (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1alevX-0003Wj-8P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:54:31 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; bh=H9s9msZntwQW3Cbh4A8Fnh/3gNo=; d=email4.live.com.eg; h=Message-ID: Date: Subject: From: Reply-To: To: MIME-Version: Content-Type: X-Mw-Customer-Uid: X-Receiver: X-Mw-Tracking-Did: X-Mw-Campaign-Uid: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mw-Customer-Gid: List-Id: X-Mw-Subscriber-Uid: X-Report-Abuse: X-Sender: Feedback-ID: X-Mw-Mailer: X-Mw-Delivery-Sid; i=@email4.live.com.eg; s=mailer; t=1459439668; b=EjPwv7AZoKpDmSMOQr0PEV7ki5UWRI1fsf/gA6YaG3seIkvl/eSq1ThGwBwHDZq1IzvDaMpo6 7KmLkrq4AIaQgeT8ZHZ6OAWzbBVffdS18p79Lt8z6nac/nPl62agv+SL6OAtsjCgkR4nxgZEV 7ddaiwebshla5WN4QX4GoAZ78= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:54:28 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?=D9=81=D8=B1=D8=B5=D8=A9_=D9=84=D8=B4=D8=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=D9=83=D8=A7=D8=AA_=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=AF=D8=B9=D8=A7=D9=8A=D8=A9_?= =?utf-8?Q?=D9=88_=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=A7=D8=B9=D9=84=D8=A7=D9=86?= From: samer araar Reply-To: samer araar To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mw-Campaign-Uid: sm720dz627b0c X-Mw-Customer-Gid: 4 X-Receiver: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://email.live.com.eg/campaigns/sm720dz627b0c/report-abuse/bt9979ptf7688/fg968m14hz190 X-Mw-Subscriber-Uid: fg968m14hz190 Feedback-ID: sm720dz627b0c:fg968m14hz190:bt9979ptf7688:dc778h78x17d9 X-Sender: bounce@email4.live.com.eg X-Mw-Customer-Uid: dc778h78x17d9 X-Mw-Mailer: SwiftMailer X-Mw-Delivery-Sid: 5 X-Mw-Tracking-Did: 0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server5.live.com.eg X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - email4.live.com.eg X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server5.live.com.eg: authenticated_id: info@email4.live.com.eg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:50:26 -0000 =20 =09=09 =D8=B9=D8=B1=D9=88=D8=B6 =D8=A7=D9=84=D8=A3=D9=88=D8=AA=D9= =88=C2=A0 =D9=84=D8=A7=D9=8A=D9=83 =D8=A7=D9=84=D8=B9=D8=B1=D8=A8=D9=8A = =D8=A7=D9=84=D8=AD=D9=82=D9=8A=D9=82=D9=8A =09=09WWW.ALFAHADLIKER.COM= HTTP://EMAIL.LIVE.COM.EG/CAMPAIGNS/SM720DZ627B0C/TRACK-URL/FG968M14HZ190= /D45806CA237E72894A91BE46C81E5B3308304076 150=C2=A0 REAL ARABIC AUTO L= IKE FOR ONE MONTH=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 9$=20 300 REAL ARABIC AUTO LIKE FOR = ONE MONTH=C2=A0 12$=20 600=C2=A0 REAL ARABIC AUTO LIKE FOR ONE MONTH= =C2=A0 18$=20 1000 REAL ARABIC AUTO LIKE FOR ONE MONTH=C2=A0 30$=20 1= 500 REAL ARABIC AUTO LIKE FOR ONE MONTH=C2=A0 33$=20 2200 REAL ARABIC AU= TO LIKE FOR ONE MONTH=C2=A0 57$=20 =C2=A0200=C2=A0=C2=A0 REAL ARABIC AUT= O LIKE FOR ONE MONTH=C2=A0 75$=20 =C2=A05500 REAL ARABIC AUTO LIKE FOR O= NE MONTH=C2=A0 108$=20 10500=C2=A0 REAL ARABIC AUTO LIKE FOR ONE MONTH= =C2=A0 180$=20 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=81 =D9=85=D8=AA=D8=A7=D8=A8=D8=B9 =D8= =B9=D8=B1=D8=A8=D9=8A =D8=AD=D9=82=D9=8A=D9=82=D9=8A =D8=A8=D8=B3=D8=B9= =D8=B1 0.4 $=20 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=81 =D9=84=D8=A7=D9=8A=D9=83 =D8=B9=D8= =B1=D8=A8=D9=8A =D8=AD=D9=82=D9=8A=D9=82=D9=8A =D8=A8=D8=B3=D8=B9=D8=B1 1 $= =20 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=81 =D9=83=D9=88=D9=85=D9=86=D8=AA =D8=AD=D9=82=D9= =8A=D9=82=D9=8A =D8=B9=D8=B1=D8=A8=D9=8A =D8=A8=D8=B3=D8=B9=D8=B1 10$=20 = =D9=84=D9=84=D8=AA=D9=88=D8=A7=D8=B5=D9=84 =D9=88=D8=AD=D8=AC=D8=B2 = =D8=AE=D8=AF=D9=85=D8=A7=D8=AA=D9=83=20 0096594443302=20 http://email= .live.com.eg/lists/bt9979ptf7688/unsubscribe/fg968m14hz190/sm720dz627b0c,= Al Fahad kuwait=20 kuwait Al Ahmadi 1231 Kuwait =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 2 16:40:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22ADB00091 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 16:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from new2-smtp.messagingengine.com (new2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B43A3132D for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 16:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailnew.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AF320B for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 02 Apr 2016 12:39:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=O78RnClLs3rIpN66BbCKI6p6cXY=; b=VDocio gZAmleYILLxm2gbkMSdFOMYsJn2Spv3Ba9E0lS7IKqCh4VqQudmuArOkgy82n8Ac 6NpiccN9iN+Vo553tKHNX9IJUfKhqWRWIlFtlusJJ8gLNpOQ6w3jWo6qEYD1KojH /1r3txbxvuye26FjKmY9Qj5oad/cquvuIDdNw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=O78RnClLs3rIpN6 6BbCKI6p6cXY=; b=sHXSEAEqvAjuiMIHoGSox8Y8anvL6Ghlru0p2z7eZEu0jRl ebDHqx0mGQ8L98DiMtNgt6ZvRVRIKFINCU+hzsmdtPVliGttjU4s5J8uMG/f6J1o r27mvCUk377GPMF0nk+DQ33IY4klWhB2rjzm7QylXr1taK/G5Kwv+ASYbQQM= X-Sasl-enc: M7os1bE8XwGFL0m4sa7w2QJq85aDFS32Fuzyft76Z4Fy 1459615199 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (roobarb.growveg.org [62.49.247.174]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 292F86800B4 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> From: tech-lists Message-ID: <56FFF5DC.2000904@zyxst.net> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 17:39:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:40:07 -0000 On 30/03/2016 05:12, David Christensen wrote: > freebsd-questions: > > Thank you for the replies so far. :-) > > > Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed > and validated against? > > > Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* > laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: Hi, FWIW I have had good results with ASUS laptops and notebooks, with a minimum of tweaking. wifi is important to me and all the asus notebooks and laptops I've had, have had atheros chipsets which have been well supported. My advice would be to ditch the optical media requirement of the device itself, and search for an asus with usb3, then go to a realworld shop with a bootable -CURRENT on usb and test it if they'll let you. Get an external portable optical media device. I use a samsung BD-506 which works well. A word to the wise - OOTB functionality is a mirage. Keeping it to a miinimum is realistic. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 2 16:43:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDF3B002EF for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from new2-smtp.messagingengine.com (new2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5415F18B8 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailnew.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C4D302 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 02 Apr 2016 12:43:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=f4gurdLNnFo3z0FVx+EtcERfBwk=; b=j/Fu6R xRWlsOjPdMuz9px+enSis12xJPxBBSkP+XEuxCMQgSY2saf4FSQku750LSJIeIkU gsJfTc65yl5Rq+/3LIQXy5XWB987jowwF7rpqdXpLqi8w+tCyK4a/roIqNbESB4Y mloa/NBAbAxmNgAxN6xZ1JuByIC3sVYqdAESU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=f4gurdLNnFo3z0F Vx+EtcERfBwk=; b=JhB1Ng7x6E6kw7vsSd5eQcR+wXpr5wUPuf3Yib7luMO9/+h P68iESF6ZG2souQJ3rlg2DKgvpRZ9wg9tQBUcLY/fWqL3rFdG/g1RZle+pGIDgxn qjgGfZeeRhRof0tGjeXaF62yVGibdMmg1t4sfS2M2TdORO05t2P8vy9mcGZo= X-Sasl-enc: wxa5pYeHs5RP9VWeaCU7GhV5DPYRbOvls06ulFm7vpxu 1459615409 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (roobarb.growveg.org [62.49.247.174]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A14306800B4 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> <56FFF5DC.2000904@zyxst.net> From: tech-lists Message-ID: <56FFF6AE.5020706@zyxst.net> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 17:43:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56FFF5DC.2000904@zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:43:31 -0000 On 02/04/2016 17:39, tech-lists wrote: > Keeping it to a miinimum is realistic. by this I mean find something that more-or-less fits but bear in mind that even on windows systems, some tweaking is needed to get things working how you want exactly. OOTB is unrealistic IMOHO if you want something that works well. -- J.