From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 10:28:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2879B4FD67 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 10:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67AAA1A6E for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 10:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.104.23] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1b6xx7-0008Ng-EW; Sun, 29 May 2016 12:28:13 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u4TASCQC002881 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 29 May 2016 12:28:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u4TASCSp002880; Sun, 29 May 2016 12:28:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 12:28:12 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: moving podriere to new SSD Message-ID: <20160529102812.GA2799@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , "Brandon J. Wandersee" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160521083057.GA2430@c720-r292778-amd64> <868tz2m6r1.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <868tz2m6r1.fsf@WorkBox.Home> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.104.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 10:28:17 -0000 El día Sunday, May 22, 2016 a las 10:50:42AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee escribió: > > Matthias Apitz writes: > > > My questions is: what would be best form to format ada1 to a files > > system for this to get most speed out of it? > > With an SSD it won't really matter. You won't notice any difference > between UFS and ZFS. But regardless: compilation speed is dependent on > the CPU, not your disk; and by default Poudriere performs some of its > work in RAM, which is already faster than an SSD. I wouldn't expect to > see a huge speed increase from Poudriere after moving its directories to > an SSD. If Poudriere is configured to extract distfiles and prepare > ports on disk rather than in RAM, that would speed up, but that's > probably about it. > > Of course you could always move the entire system to the SSD, since it > would have plenty of spare room. While Poudriere wouldn't run > drastically faster, everything else would, and you could use the extra > space on the HDD for any data you might want to store. I have now moved /usr/local/poudriere to the SSD and I'm building the same jail release r292778 and the same ports r414411, but for i386 architecture. While on the old harddisk the average was 10 ports built per hour, it is now around 70 ports per hour, running 3 builders. Ofc, one has to note also that the distfiles are all already there. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Die Verkaufsschlager des Buchmarkts geben Auskunft über den Zustand einer Gesellschaft bzw. sind, was diese Zeiten angeht, Gradmesser fortschreitenden Schwachsinns. ..." (jW 19.05.2016) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 11:06:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10DFB529B5 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elimek2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22e.google.com (mail-oi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5801039 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elimek2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id k23so234395813oih.0 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 04:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=J2EMkRAcyyiN3BA52PM1oy2xKUFDxQVeDSYZlj6rIio=; b=H8P2GLVxaKYfr4YrPgILfhk0gkv74rNYKfVFoTPoA77ThqkQfy8tf6jSBu17EVfutT ytrBLz0bcxxmgVLD15a0Va1oVkm3uVyj45Rkcsiac1URhbgDeHw2CN91/VyM38TxrkWd M47RO+kJzR3X80W+S8JJf2sKjlivs8u8382IYhnwavK8cY3FAaYKBCNonp7CGrxEOQnh iFPzRJQ5GcYK49HFZx6Eluia77vmauzX1WlwV6hvsGfSXfzcsnUjHpciCz96wcyZQq0W Gar51+EijTQ/Zp9lEHhaNgZB+RnfTxK+eulQC4p8swtNt8i1YJg4OZGuM43Di0fYgRTg ivDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=J2EMkRAcyyiN3BA52PM1oy2xKUFDxQVeDSYZlj6rIio=; b=RPQ/ZgcYkzl0Z+UediknJVNr4p0whymBXfHcE3mwRv96ur7ySSBXdSCgLOlcdZp9mH gK/IIHWeStqZTl5tYmEkmif1tAo1P/oD4sf7/LhiQvdGpvRUdxgsKJsqjroLKv3yD73N RuWtIwrRadIooRgUI7AZbtItsZ4aTZpSDKsluS+GPMbgACqsmib+n4dUk37uF8z8PI5V HOfsmmtlZ3NQAEVd+R06SEzP9aimBStHToHTvz2I1/5QbBa/K442/Ol8/ater/84O8cN W4A70lgVu3Wa2KAqZupTgzuldfZ21Qz8kKCW5CqacIFqKBUcFfAJTfUMGaqksy3ZJyq2 Jaaw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKDlMFpOGtGH80ppW1TszKXqufpT/bx1Vl7aRNAAux97nJcR3dBDYpukuvam3XzHxxXMiN5Q7AIHlWzEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.157.41.226 with SMTP id g31mr9043479otd.68.1464520006958; Sun, 29 May 2016 04:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.157.2.101 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2016 04:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:06:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: How to create a fork of freebsd From: Mathe Eliel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:06:47 -0000 Hello to the community. I saw a operating system called pfSense that is based on FreeBSD. It uses PF firewall filter, I think. Now, I would like to create a sample OS based on freeBSD. I have a web application written in PHP and running on Apache Server in a FreeBSD computer. How can I make this kind of fork of FreeBSD thus I give a .iso file to my friends containing the webserver, the php application and other downloaded ports such as apinger, dhcpd? To allow them use my application without redownloading all those applications but they can install it in a computer and it starts working? Thank you very much.j From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 11:24:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA76AB5305A for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from katmai@keptprivate.com) Received: from keptprivate.com (keptprivate.com [38.117.1.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.keptprivate.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB2C21BE0 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from katmai@keptprivate.com) Received: (qmail 14451 invoked by uid 89); 29 May 2016 11:23:34 -0000 Received: from (HELO ) (katmai@keptprivate.com@keptprivate.com) by keptprivate.com with ESMTPA; 29 May 2016 11:23:34 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:23:31 +0200 From: katmai@keptprivate.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,Mathe Eliel Message-ID: <4cde3d47-2383-4a95-8094-7ebc2dbb9f96.maildroid@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: How to create a fork of freebsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:44:04 -0000 On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, wrote: > Use docker and make a container. Send him the dockerfile > > Sent from my android device. > well docker isnt exactly the same on freebsd as linux though what you suggest might work, however it might not now lets clarify, pfsense itself is based on freebsd, it is not neccesarily a fork but additonal software compilations to make a firewall release based on FreeBSD, as is like wise OPNSense, and well monowall, freenas, nas4free, pcbsd, BSDrp, and a few others are all essentially based on FreeBSD, so its probably not the OS you want to fork but wish to create an applications you can release in some format, say iso, or raw image, of vmdk for your friends to use > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mathe Eliel > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Sun, 29 May 2016 14:32 > Subject: How to create a fork of freebsd > > Hello to the community. > I saw a operating system called pfSense that is based on FreeBSD. It uses > PF firewall filter, I think. > > Now, I would like to create a sample OS based on freeBSD. I have a web > application written in PHP and running on Apache Server in a FreeBSD > computer. How can I make this kind of fork of FreeBSD thus I give a .iso > file to my friends containing the webserver, the php application and other > downloaded ports such as apinger, dhcpd? To allow them use my application > without redownloading all those applications but they can install it in a > computer and it starts working? > > Thank you very much.j > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 11:48:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5FDB5362F for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box-fra-01.niklaas.eu (box-fra-01.niklaas.eu [IPv6:2a00:c98:2200:af07:6::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7155189A for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box-fra-01.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CDD8061FE9; Sun, 29 May 2016 13:48:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:48:00 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create a fork of freebsd Message-ID: <20160529114800.GG11877@box-fra-01.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4cde3d47-2383-4a95-8094-7ebc2dbb9f96.maildroid@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:48:04 -0000 --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Outback Dingo [2016-05-29 13:43 +0200] : > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, wrote: >=20 > > Use docker and make a container. Send him the dockerfile > > > > Sent from my android device. > > >=20 > well docker isnt exactly the same on freebsd as linux though what you > suggest might work, however it might not > now lets clarify, pfsense itself is based on freebsd, it is not > neccesarily a fork but additonal software compilations to make > a firewall release based on FreeBSD, as is like wise OPNSense, and > well monowall, freenas, nas4free, pcbsd, BSDrp, and a few others are > all essentially based on FreeBSD, so its probably not the OS you want > to fork but wish to create an applications you can release in some > format, say iso, or raw image, of vmdk for your friends to use Mathe, in case your friends have a working FreeBSD system, you could think about deploying your applications in a jail and only send them your jail infrastructure. Niklaas --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXStbqAAoJEG2fODeJrIU/V4UP/A6XDjba+KWBba0jeqTzKUD2 xZFF4mv1dLZ90C0m6kWTi2vONI8IW4oHAJun+QNnEunFgyT5srEjNssrx715rITK eLCRQLzou6vxPFkT5GM73uwHSaYbGRsGyUqdIt46gQPrcgpqhoAzDJO+rw9QvPKW qS2d5JxO5aCxuSHqfL2xdhzJda0ItypxJD/uM5DlIuCTtPmJtydl3BkjYM3Avlom XxligSgXVEv5WwY0PB0ZPOSuqR8z/lH+CYlpbXmlfdSlInIKN9g+omsO2teTRnAt 9m8qtj0MRvHvnyAuomqUMQEJaIZbIWsc6iBFZhVVfE1M5FmkzJxrHzuTrsRIULhI pBc9BYoLUlFYwDyaCqKwVgk/rb9bgok/26F3bdgCGW/yEeDpghkplb91Kp3xMZc4 O8rHTs/LlLBBhaYavDnrTRkZVNl3hftvOYPyJw7QehyrzLUlTGTwfQyVe7/e2VqH iRDoOs4FJ1ElkvyUN2LiaLzHuDNL1rRLaiI4/eG3cfPnGdK/8MIYjl8hs6ObSZL9 haqdouwalLCIQVI1/5Jt3UcVxLZhw5vyy6DtEsIYZ04NdpOMazAyOk6xd//IL8oa 5nl3ckoFHA59vQV1mkEbtNOCTrpDJ6579vvglkrehrEJB4vgAJHr2NHsZXKNnC3C CvBnYvCTMFIjoIWIWw0Z =erIa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 13:24:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E211B4F700 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 13:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD4F21D45 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 13:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 0DNp1t00407iGuj01DNq1E; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:22:50 +0200 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 12427 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11); Sun, 29 May 2016 15:22:49 +0200 Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:22:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Mathe Eliel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create a fork of freebsd Message-ID: <20160529132248.GA36882@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Mathe Eliel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:24:03 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 01:06:46PM +0200, Mathe Eliel wrote: > Hello to the community. > I saw a operating system called pfSense that is based on FreeBSD. It uses > PF firewall filter, I think. >=20 > Now, I would like to create a sample OS based on freeBSD. I have a web > application written in PHP and running on Apache Server in a FreeBSD > computer. How can I make this kind of fork of FreeBSD thus I give a .iso > file to my friends containing the webserver, the php application and other > downloaded ports such as apinger, dhcpd? To allow them use my application > without redownloading all those applications but they can install it in a > computer and it starts working? That's not really a fork, but distributing a live-CD with some extras. The FreeSBIE toolkit for building live-CDs in /usr/ports/sysutils/freesbie = can probably do what you need. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJXSu0hAAoJEED21dyjijPgr3cQAMIxSlUPRDAdOO5iki+HxgMx 97G2oz2Mxgf2W9phLiesdpxkAao7O780RFpo/NsIdGvVnlAhlSTq3ZoWN0zfQgp0 HZdmRhHpphiQWp+uStn8OdHIo7ymnhg7xhcuUjYkBkK2hQUHX4lG/kfA1kKutwHi skzVSB5R0TRq+L/XU9iVOS/luGplmuYFNmGuYLyaP2gTJQiIeD2cj4lVg+GQPc8A 2oFfW7QvxC2ez2WEt3We00utYfE1Ieuv3VFWIL6zU12H2szKy7Smwxtv3ttyp2xv zl9A9LBQ7mIegayY+WYUUlqHIUTooH0x3VzZUSZWsZkK3eJI168pROU8gB7ntM+h 48rL4gqSjHY2dnL8loh6ZPBoG16jJGsW4kiBjIGUeFeLQ0x1+yRLXkDKCKvhk04s z7XPsq3QeSXvFaxN59xZspETMM5tS8F6JHw4D34gvdnzpoDkLmXf+QWriBlnC4zF iOegUbKDBNZhFenALlvX24oyTFf6plo/N80w9QMuB+22po7kETczNfDsZUsFVe3J EdW3JSzQNpClqtQWW7Bq8QPgbjfsGvy66HRlRyyiNtHq2Q+4ZE1m8ptjlkrY6aRs TlgNJ93hL9hhhyl9BiUYEICM1ggvgD+Uy0crPNa3nJrnfpwNbl/I5Z9poSNfNOP1 CQM5LkosMhZyONwXM5ph =O+uB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 13:25:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AE8B4F7E3 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 13:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C34E1E57 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 13:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp14-2-37-105.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.37.105]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 29 May 2016 22:50:13 +0930 Subject: Re: Can ipfw be used to limit concurrent requests from an IP? To: Will Squire , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <574AEC8B.5080701@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:50:11 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:25:27 -0000 On 28/05/2016 05:04, Will Squire wrote: > Can ipfw limit the number requests in a given amount of time from a > specific IP? > > To contextualise, if an IP sends requests in high concurrency (let's > say 50 a second) can ipfw either block requests the exceed a > threshold for that second (lets say the threshold is 20, 30 would be > blocked), or ban/deny the given IP for exceeding a threshold? > > The aim is to lessen strain under DoS attacks, specifically for HTTP. > The system is using Apache and mod_evasive has been added and tested, > but it is not functioning correctly. > > (P.S. The freebsd-ipfw list seems to be for development of the > technology only, so asking this here. Please let me know if this > isn’t the case) You might want to look at sshguard http://www.freshports.org/security/sshguard-ipfw/ http://www.sshguard.net/ -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 14:23:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01443B51A8B for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 14:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elimek2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22b.google.com (mail-oi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C10E31F4E for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 14:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elimek2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id b65so238010160oia.1 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 07:23:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=R4Z7qC0R/aAIUx9V5PW/nKlh6Utd3XizHLSf+CP6zQk=; b=JaGnWig6kBea1GulG/LuMYZ/IpWQhBjcoOjUwUU793tZm9+A3dnyVQ4uM/OpBGaGy5 bbQdIOmZ5Glq8j0MFaRpwgw1oG/GmfKwrfNaVGnCHy/fUv+MoDN89CSdWzIMUx0lCElj QNWZhYQ/1RXcseWqQfjBWCKau3YKoPtiBDwJJjTeIf6PLjT/OqA9VrNFXsu/E24kR7EK OQxX1ct7tEFrV+Y4AbznqcsHYtgO/DeOzpy0U8pJ7+RazJANY2iZXycQ6MbMsrsv2va4 wzgG62Oih25tleiIrDwhzCL2SBqdUqE61BgGPkAokLQxAcdg1Ld3m+dINMoqgypDRsB8 oY7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=R4Z7qC0R/aAIUx9V5PW/nKlh6Utd3XizHLSf+CP6zQk=; b=bowHnq4SQXD86XacixxxCWk6btPVwIingTKGj81MUknMaaZazOvnT+/eALt6je/Oeo pcRPFEB0v5dCqKhP7HdfbrEzGQAQbzhqvtXrAbQoGhU5xQkpv3jqb1brzGUSI1x6tEwT GBmTvvi7C9mrGgw4+p6aD1cwcriYOmi1F/TexowfaBBlWtILVwuQrPcn2Y6vd0M6CkIj ZmlcVwCGnsl54k0kf+htgj1yoTiA/xl9t9MSXZSMD0cOhgvuyCHU87n5v2UyORqkaTxB +qeER/m4SfcnEnzrQes4QAbGP4lPsbQTdpAkT0cE7CV+4fGhhSInoCEFNZQPkGicT6Op ZweA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLnbiq6jcGtoSitGqibx5dFfsioasN6Uhdgsf4pmlawqdQKKc0xX2qTSfygSsCYRTvNURJiTmvl3L/Unw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.87.212 with SMTP id l203mr15257335oib.177.1464531813986; Sun, 29 May 2016 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.157.2.101 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2016 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160529132248.GA36882@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20160529132248.GA36882@slackbox.erewhon.home> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:23:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to create a fork of freebsd From: Mathe Eliel To: Mathe Eliel , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 14:23:35 -0000 I will go through FreeSBIE and be back to you! Thank you very much. On Sunday, 29 May 2016, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 01:06:46PM +0200, Mathe Eliel wrote: > > Hello to the community. > > I saw a operating system called pfSense that is based on FreeBSD. It uses > > PF firewall filter, I think. > > > > Now, I would like to create a sample OS based on freeBSD. I have a web > > application written in PHP and running on Apache Server in a FreeBSD > > computer. How can I make this kind of fork of FreeBSD thus I give a .iso > > file to my friends containing the webserver, the php application and > other > > downloaded ports such as apinger, dhcpd? To allow them use my application > > without redownloading all those applications but they can install it in a > > computer and it starts working? > > That's not really a fork, but distributing a live-CD with some extras. > > The FreeSBIE toolkit for building live-CDs in /usr/ports/sysutils/freesbie > can > probably do what you need. > > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 14:35:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6D7B51E41 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 14:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D11C18A6 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 14:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.9.93]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LiKeS-1beyaT23Ei-00ceIU for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 16:35:37 +0200 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b71oW-000ERS-Vo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 May 2016 16:35:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:35:36 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create a fork of freebsd Message-ID: <20160529143536.GA69838@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:tPgCMiwXHWLsLOwCSiZlZcLogqlYMUVlk07iniesKd9diKDpJDf BGfEg4RjDAWXzwUDu6y4wJCY+ifBvMuAetM9jpZN3MEEfIvRF/R78FobnsXABvYAct9+8gr MJYnkGhAyOfFbpHdLnE3PUlDbYgp6OmeXMMTZHyLtVZHD6fjKSUGW8AUf77ZIC9KPAC/q8A OQMgVrfLfasjAD84iWhbw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:6sCL1ZKf/cw=:q1g+oWjE8dMqmXBTiNK6WJ MDTsFUdP9pC5lC6pL6OxOTLfv1SfST2DRw+pbnqPn7Mc2N74IqlRRESLas0enjuHQUPj/Sz+e wlRknQJVlIp5BF3xlm9DPGo4iLKdnfkw0/o1rarwe888TApjx7qMd/Ni4zPjePoWClUSqP1OZ Dq0kBoHZgzOF3UYWkUZnrUhJKylEwB7NgSGplWia4BzP0U6+/se6BbacOewKcinY1OmPceZZg bZ9oPSuP79AlRvHqa7BYrX1otll1aN+9HutEbEvVIZ4fJdBdXRXa51dtadMC1RKF0HhzPvxhc SJPM6fqyQvaZqJKh6lIxZb1HH+Ub4ulI9J1EXPv5/j/o/6DI7gTeKUJ5nz8QoyuHTjl2RtiQl 6dk+Ar3HIN+g6LojTXJIyYwyBcXl62nCzwfdhDPfGQRIYBo91+Qf7mwD0m2SsOqCHADKwb1uW UHUeQCwaHjJq7rW1FzOcekYCU72WTgOQ5mUm56o9y5olP0izT7rNe0nS0nIrPPkMkWW4Afoey PWrDRIOWeI4nviRk7Z0jv4XMibfaaEWG61moZrTCImeGAMVH/AZMX7hUge+sMW55gaopmlzEH rnjkCYppe+czuHsy17QYl43omC4/n+iiUEV5XIkkgxvWDteKtRdJ9dBR72ITWU2fdBz9H60RR pXu2GUf92LWeK503OeAzAm62GIeQM3xGtTsq37aaE83Xb9ELJDDAvXEJQlmBA+vazFYZLjX/7 HzuqH3VJ56gmlkYF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 14:35:46 -0000 Hi, On Sunday, 29. May 2016, 13:06:46 +0200, Mathe Eliel wrote: > Now, I would like to create a sample OS based on freeBSD. I have a web > application written in PHP and running on Apache Server in a FreeBSD > computer. How can I make this kind of fork of FreeBSD thus I give a .iso > file to my friends containing the webserver, the php application and other > downloaded ports such as apinger, dhcpd? To allow them use my application > without redownloading all those applications but they can install it in a > computer and it starts working? This is roughly what I do: # dd if=/dev/zero of=myliveusb.img bs=2G count=2 # mdconfig -a -f myliveusb.img # gpart add ... md0 # gpart bootcode ... md0 # gpart modify -i N -l myliveusb md0 # newfs -U /dev/gpt/myliveusb # mount /dev/gpt/myliveusb /mnt/install # cd /usr/src # make DESTDIR=/mnt/install installworld installkernel distrib-dirs distribution - Create an /etc/fstab that mounts / to /dev/gpt/myliveusb, /tmp, /var/tmp, /var/run, /var/log to mfs. - Create an elementary /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_DEFAULT="DHCP" ntpdate_enable="YES" - Copy /etc/localtime - Chroot into it: # cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/install/etc/ # chroot /mnt/install /bin/sh # mount_devfs devfs /dev - Install packages - Leave the chroot, umount the partition and release the md. dd the .img to a USB stick. Good luck! 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Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 15:17:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9B0B5389A for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7696C1CC6 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.9.93]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjwWD-1bdtNu2NHV-00bqJm for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 17:17:43 +0200 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b72TH-000JZC-2X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 May 2016 17:17:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 17:17:43 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .conf editer Message-ID: <20160529151743.GA75162@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <574B0370.5050503@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <574B0370.5050503@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:weve4QsdPVwjBV5YDc1RDj097XAlU62x43C7uS7ITIpK2vPhCRe PdfxdaUaIhwxccR1clV1h8knsitkuJ48mZ7+niq4mcp4jRhRN9loWUQArAxnWZcBmq+iRy+ zfZlT9rzbTHMr5ymPC/bEddmX8LDLHCis5pgPbeBQvfV22COjGk1b1kS71/Ye1bqYdPAXuy Yguowo03YlEk5J3nEHwrQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:r/CeSqn2jTo=:wDPsObyvaK/XU1fay8dA3n g4Kw8RuACzW7NwAqUThbl8Ft4bEzsX2I1e1YvwiydP3ttvFoNXkrp5N/ZvMzRRMxF304NNHxO roXG7ChY9y98/sZ1z9eh/Q3rD+YzlYsiNQWgFkDeL6TQR9UGjrNjB7lpaAKjlozB6KRxCccGX 2e5NWMVev2ahIu8a+NEqnH9X+N3sjYzesqlpFEPWV+adrcFUU54q+N0oQSR5XydSqApVW+c2D vmdp8+LemfISQ9RhFwWKDo002xiNyj7eG7wytW8G/wZgjgGG1lo53+XyT0NLJgHDV/CsvvH9X MhPWlzeRWQNBXJFwDyGuUm2xuxWcAvsZ49JY7xag8W8tvOXrGL8SEMhs13yyv/1mqpihW5WzV F9oNpU3B/4L0WBSV+zEbBmTYE8O0+kMsDIJEkLpYjApLfhr2urcm4vwrpmyS2AnraLGIhmVR1 BhnZQLL7Zi3UjF00lZm7YRVIrS0Aq/yUeIKnmEoUfygq4M5w789C2TRMZqAUqph5qvctsRNZ6 b9PN9CVwFTP2cgUTIbyl2ZIhfFl4+VeFx5yYU0gnJbHoOwjaa5Syu2OHpCdMsUWrANoba2uBE YBNwK9pl5bJLA0CmkEBubS3gj0VKuZuDqGjw9nGbSJwh2h4T8NLn2JcGMgYzPW9ByKCJdUWf+ H2jeq4MT4NOBTi0V8a+wBo9Y1VY3xYjWTD8YpcboOvdgxl0r33WjY1AzVGS9afeVI3jf6wdjX UKfd6B0t8W9+LaL36JIUglc2imxQdrj5UapdFQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:17:52 -0000 On Sunday, 29. May 2016, 10:57:52 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a system utility that can be called from a csh script to > find the existing text in rc.conf and replace it with new text without > manual intervention. man sed -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 15:31:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465A8B53BDC for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x242.google.com (mail-it0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 105AB13BD for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 15:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x242.google.com with SMTP id z123so3762929itg.2 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 08:31:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sc9JFwsAY1u6P5N/mLdNAPx+kTApu7vBiNvq2+TAUpk=; b=S5AmoGu8qiLaD7vANoEQn/UEcsepzya4zXnJ4T9QgBlNnH/qjqD41uO5/P01z2ltvB W6sw/sOejaoQ9BdNksPamisgW9D6hMDe7Q7qlsR3f+yW/D3Wk4klCP2/oBasy5ERxjFM f9z/YhfOMuMfLjy67p54hHQeEESgyM5yxi0TXBzzP/ZcP/bherF7QTLTDsDAMwdGx0lX vh6n/jM5lYXW3UrjPKUw4db1DOoMALldbquuRP4i5u/n3Fuby7x/YPLN3ta+40E6rQo6 D4dtKDCuAoAM6THhWEqbZuyaKUHw1d49/ky8zVm9nTjNCt3ZwyWrzTU8Gy5qALuM5BPa C0dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sc9JFwsAY1u6P5N/mLdNAPx+kTApu7vBiNvq2+TAUpk=; b=JJk8A0pPJuCxBDpzmiPqwqOwcJSFLH1AFUXSAsiTmEGJ+z6iSCl3Fetp/vzTc4Ez+F mm6K9w9D0WO36XGb4g+mLT42XKSzdB7Wukh3RQ6k4QYV0kzukh6dsuji04y4GRbeTben asnP0UsmzXeTtZ8m9ktSoRfPD89If/EiSbVqX6mfCtiCiptxpBDdMQNXJEJYn4sntdjy OyZtR/QgdpDQVSOK0u6ZTAf/MWEm6LpS1WK6eZ6PU1cL/OWEV6qyN5j2EIBFSE3FnMmW ax+yRFAUx5bDloWB9cdA9f327dvWgicnX1EnqC+KTscJa7/WpI8rkFae52T61vtMgP6z mIJw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKY1tNjxvBrqIV4l5Z5OyhjoCBtqI9dRVb7iQfhAD/GjFKKVX0ng3lMUqaASjPgxw== X-Received: by 10.36.29.129 with SMTP id 123mr5334634itj.61.1464535875360; Sun, 29 May 2016 08:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-184-56-210-236.neo.res.rr.com. [184.56.210.236]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id u66sm5743888itc.21.2016.05.29.08.31.14 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 May 2016 08:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <574B0B42.2040905@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:31:14 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .conf editer References: <574B0370.5050503@gmail.com> <20160529151743.GA75162@becker.bs.l> In-Reply-To: <20160529151743.GA75162@becker.bs.l> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:31:16 -0000 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Sunday, 29. May 2016, 10:57:52 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Looking for a system utility that can be called from a csh script to >> find the existing text in rc.conf and replace it with new text without >> manual intervention. > > man sed > Thats way to over kill. A while back read some thing in a post about some new utility just for .conf files. I kind of remember it had src in its name. 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[184.56.210.236]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e131sm5767564ita.15.2016.05.29.08.41.20 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 May 2016 08:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <574B0DA0.2060308@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:41:20 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .conf editer References: <574B0370.5050503@gmail.com> <20160529151743.GA75162@becker.bs.l> In-Reply-To: <20160529151743.GA75162@becker.bs.l> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:41:21 -0000 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Sunday, 29. May 2016, 10:57:52 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Looking for a system utility that can be called from a csh script to >> find the existing text in rc.conf and replace it with new text without >> manual intervention. > > man sed > I finally found it. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 18:45:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71E6B54D7B for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 18:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.manas.88@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qg0-x229.google.com (mail-qg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6733B1830 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 18:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.manas.88@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qg0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 52so5445258qgy.0 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=smi4FyP8H4T3TdxVy8CBISqw36SM0R37rlFmz4v+nk0=; b=EZXEwLDjwGLnCwIWonRmaIdJNtKwhgfAoo6ARWErhoK6HDa3HPccyWjlUe1l83fJEq W/6MKMXujFtsq3X9XUxEcFzOeynTGf8No/PP3z/svP81iGhDFPgnO+qjxTNQlc94+p/q WaQA6L96Lo2UFAh39pEsKYesz/GESre42whRmGQ24TM+KTSYpSxahm9iz4wjw2H/5GDv czGriq6DllXWadPdwLPuuoo6Vo56fqxnfyBSxde8tQgPMwhnQFrelfzTcB7DbBVeaRTS vnqmnSzuUo3Vm7F+QiA7k2RKkWrSfi8SonJ11lY1FqcY3A76S7uL95OCIj3uEghyHy5S 5h1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=smi4FyP8H4T3TdxVy8CBISqw36SM0R37rlFmz4v+nk0=; b=eTb/w8tUV93SdJAuAs3JYwzeVAPkmn63iLMuzxvwV7aYrm4Iym/yC9+CGZ3UC8Hv8p Qj7EAjUO1I6WvDtvj/fmMAQQAd+09vWaWCmzFpIA0/jHqNqT0ZKXh/ACKOuAmvELAf/C JviESNgkxv9B+R5+1Cvpf2EC1Fd1qYBsEUMDDv1bl4YQDqmESkpGIJS46ZGFE/rcss3Y zonzYXeF51uxNMT87uE11TTrnDZJ2uvnEbSmQ3Op1L+udifBOdQfVjBiWIO434TLCV+p 2i5PXTaNJJm2ta5J5f0Pff1Y29CVbfhaCkXACwMMh7FUugKlU1RMR5Iglgupiztq90Al Px0g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKfYUOx1U5jwBsb8mT0S8p1m5Tib89un8Vf/ejFFK8Sp8khhkAJ7J0HOziImMv3CB659pe3RIH1ISIIwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.247.138 with SMTP id s132mr23542293qhc.52.1464547514643; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.21.146 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2016 11:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 14:45:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Possible bug with SCTP and iperf3? From: Manas Bhatnagar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 18:45:15 -0000 Hello, I experienced a hard reset of a system recently, running FreeBSD 10-RELEASE, while running iperf3. I do not know much about SCTP nor iperf3, I was just fiddling around with iperf3 arguments. These are the commands I ran: iperf3 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 iperf3 -u -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 iperf3 --sctp -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 iperf3 --sctp -c $IP -P 4 -t 60 iperf3 --sctp -c $IP -t 60 iperf3 --sctp --nstreams 64 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 iperf3 --sctp --nstreams 2 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 What I remember is that the second last command would not show any data as being transferred and when I ran the last command, the system running the iperf3 server did a hard reset. I don't know if this is a bug or not but it seems to my inexperienced eyes like it is something that could be used maliciously to bring down a system running 'iperf3 -s' and so I thought it would be best to share this with the mailing list. Thank you, Manas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 20:04:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835BAB540B2 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 20:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D1F91310 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 20:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan ([83.160.85.125]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 0L4E1t0082iF10301L4GZx; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:04:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u4TK4DLQ003872 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:04:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:04:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen X-X-Sender: marco@localhost Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: x11/xconsole not showing any output Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:04:19 -0000 Hi, I recently started to use x11/xdm. After logging in and when X starts, xconsole is also started. I thought it would be nice to follow the console messages in X instead of switching with Ctrl+Alt+F1 all the time. XConsole is executed in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 and afaik it should display the messages from /dev/console. But I get the impression that xconsole is linked to ttyv8 (where X is started), instead of ttyv0 (where all the console messages go to). So how can I configure xconsole so that it shows the messages from /dev/console? I've tried to edit Xsetup_0 with the -file option but this does not make a difference. Thanks in advance, Marco -- The eye is a menace to clear sight, the ear is a menace to subtle hearing, the mind is a menace to wisdom, every organ of the senses is a menace to its own capacity. ... Fuss, the god of the Southern Ocean, and Fret, the god of the Northern Ocean, happened once to meet in the realm of Chaos, the god of the center. Chaos treated them very handsomely and they discussed together what they could do to repay his kindness. They had noticed that, whereas everyone else had seven apertures, for sight, hearing, eating, breathing and so on, Chaos had none. So they decided to make the experiment of boring holes in him. Every day they bored a hole, and on the seventh day, Chaos died. -- Chuang Tzu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 20:18:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C997B5422A for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 20:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1531D17F5 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 20:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-137-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.137.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB08527933; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u4TKI2HS002633; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:18:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:18:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/xconsole not showing any output Message-Id: <20160529221802.6496c217.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:18:12 -0000 On Sun, 29 May 2016 22:04:13 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen wrote: > I recently started to use x11/xdm. After logging in and when X starts, > xconsole is also started. I thought it would be nice to follow the console > messages in X instead of switching with Ctrl+Alt+F1 all the time. It's a very convenient way to check console messages, other than repeating "dmesg" in an X terminal and checking what's new. :-) > XConsole is executed in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 and afaik it > should display the messages from /dev/console. But I get the impression > that xconsole is linked to ttyv8 (where X is started), instead of ttyv0 > (where all the console messages go to). > > So how can I configure xconsole so that it shows the messages from > /dev/console? I've tried to edit Xsetup_0 with the -file option but this > does not make a difference. Are the console permissions set properly? Check if xdm-config does have the following (or applying) lines: DisplayManager._0.setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 DisplayManager._0.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole DisplayManager._0.reset: /etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole In your case, the paths will probably be different, but check the content of the GiveConsole and TakeConsole scripts: They make sure your user will actually be able to read from the console (as it's initially owned by root, and only has rw-/---/--- permissions). When you are then logged in, check "ls -l /dev/console", and you should see something similar to this: % ll /dev/console crw------- 1 poly wheel 0, 5 2016-05-29 18:38:20 /dev/console If this is _not_ the case, xconsole doesn't work as expected. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 20:37:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECC7B546E3 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 20:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B09111CE for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 20:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan ([83.160.85.125]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 0LcT1t0092iF10301LcVu0; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:36:29 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u4TKaQAd004334 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 29 May 2016 22:36:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:36:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen X-X-Sender: marco@localhost Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: Polytropon cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/xconsole not showing any output In-Reply-To: <20160529221802.6496c217.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20160529221802.6496c217.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:37:41 -0000 On Sun, 29 May 2016, the wise Polytropon wrote: > It's a very convenient way to check console messages, other than > repeating "dmesg" in an X terminal and checking what's new. :-) Yeah I know, but it was started by default and I just wanted to try it out. > Are the console permissions set properly? Check if xdm-config does have > the following (or applying) lines: > > DisplayManager._0.setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 > DisplayManager._0.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole > DisplayManager._0.reset: /etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole > > In your case, the paths will probably be different, but check the > content of the GiveConsole and TakeConsole scripts: They make sure > your user will actually be able to read from the console (as it's > initially owned by root, and only has rw-/---/--- permissions). The GiveConsole script says: chown $USER /dev/console And the TakeConsole script says: chmod 622 /dev/console chown root /dev/console Should the owner be the user here? > When you are then logged in, check "ls -l /dev/console", and you > should see something similar to this: > > % ll /dev/console > crw------- 1 poly wheel 0, 5 2016-05-29 18:38:20 /dev/console > > If this is _not_ the case, xconsole doesn't work as expected. The permissions of /dev/console look ok: crw------- 1 marco wheel 0x9 May 29 21:24 /dev/console Regards, Marco -- My boy is mean kid. I came home the other day and saw him taping worms to the sidewalk, he sits there and watches the birds get hernias. Well, only last Christmas I gave him a B-B gun and he gave me a sweatshirt with a bulls-eye on the back. I told my kids, "Someday, you'll have kids of your own." 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From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Oddball desktop behavior Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:55:40 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:50:20 -0000 I logged out Friday & left for the long weekend. I had been logged in for weeks, maybe months, xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p36, pkgs upgraded last week (w/o logging out & back in, wasn't required). I logged back in this A.M. & have slightly wacky desktop behavior. All JPEG's, PNG's, etc. on my desktop have the same, apparently generic thumbnail, rather than the one specific to the individual file. I also have a process running amok: [wam@kabini1, ~, 3:09:50pm] 307 % ps -alf UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS MWCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 1110 38532 53584 0 30 0 14520 3312 pause I v0 0:00.05 -tcsh (tcsh) 1110 38537 38532 0 52 0 14548 2176 wait I+ v0 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startx 1110 38553 38537 0 26 0 23740 2624 wait I+ v0 0:00.00 xinit /home/wam/.xinitrc -- /usr/local/bin/X :0 -auth /home/wam/.serverauth.38537 0 38554 38553 0 20 0 307032 84028 uwait I v0 1:05.19 /usr/local/bin/X :0 -auth /home/wam/.serverauth.38537 (Xorg) 1110 38559 38553 0 52 0 14548 2172 wait I v0 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc 1110 38565 38559 0 20 0 194552 18068 select I v0 0:01.35 xfce4-session 1110 38568 1 0 52 0 27972 2936 select I v0 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session xfce4-session 1110 38577 38565 0 20 0 182620 19596 select S v0 0:03.20 xfwm4 --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 26f798dfa-3f9e-11e4-ba85-d0509913e385 1110 38580 38565 0 52 0 231464 22960 kqread I v0 0:11.16 xfce4-panel --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 26f307901-3f9e-11e4-ba85-d0509913e385 1110 38583 38565 0 20 0 248552 33284 kqread I v0 0:04.69 xfdesktop --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 26f308fe5-3f9e-11e4-ba85-d0509913e385 1110 38585 38565 0 41 0 204188 25772 select I v0 0:07.03 xfce4-terminal --geometry=184x51 --display :0.0 --role=xfce4-terminal-1419626305-1398613666 --show- 1110 38586 38565 0 20 0 79152 10604 select I v0 0:00.22 xterm -xtsessionID 240b804e5-2e30-11e5-b426-d0509913e385 -sl 5000 -maximized 1110 38590 38565 0 20 0 79152 10524 select I v0 0:00.21 xterm -xtsessionID 22262d0e2-798d-11e5-95bb-d0509913e385 -rv 1110 38591 38565 0 20 0 79152 10648 select I v0 0:00.23 xterm -xtsessionID 2d50e5c9c-f7f0-11e4-a83d-d0509913e385 -sl 5000 -maximized 1110 38593 38565 0 20 0 79152 10544 select I v0 0:00.23 xterm -xtsessionID 29e04983f-80a3-11e5-95bb-d0509913e385 -sl 5000 -maximized -rv 1110 38594 38580 0 20 0 177556 15772 select I v0 0:00.13 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libsystray.so 6 12582944 1110 38596 38580 0 20 0 164468 16876 select S v0 0:03.10 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/liborageclock.so 22 12582 1110 38600 38565 0 20 0 58652 4496 select S v0 0:00.77 xscreensaver -no-splash 1110 38611 38565 0 48 0 224152 20128 kqread I v0 0:00.24 zeitgeist-datahub 1110 38621 38565 0 39 19 353504 60044 uwait IN v0 55:29.55 /usr/local/libexec/tracker-extract 1110 38632 38565 0 39 19 140272 16600 kqread IN v0 0:00.28 /usr/local/libexec/tracker-miner-apps 1110 38641 38580 0 20 0 173044 16120 select S v0 0:24.20 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libcpugraph.so 16 1258295 1110 38642 38565 0 39 19 191356 30376 kqread IN v0 0:09.12 /usr/local/libexec/tracker-miner-fs 1110 38643 38580 0 20 0 173028 16048 select S v0 0:02.53 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libbsdcpufreq.so 5 125829 1110 38647 38580 0 20 0 179448 18000 select I v0 0:00.16 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libactions.so 19 12582958 1110 38648 38565 0 52 19 133264 14908 kqread IN v0 0:00.14 /usr/local/libexec/tracker-miner-user-guides 1110 38649 38580 0 20 0 164468 17416 select S v0 0:03.16 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/liborageclock.so 18 12582 1110 38677 1 0 20 0 41352 5844 select S v0 0:02.26 /usr/local/bin/rxvt 1110 38683 1 0 20 0 41352 5276 select S v0 0:01.56 /usr/local/bin/rxvt 1110 38690 1 0 20 0 41352 4784 select S v0 0:02.07 /usr/local/bin/rxvt 1110 38696 1 0 20 0 37256 4404 select S v0 0:02.17 /usr/local/bin/rxvt 1110 38699 1 0 20 0 37256 4252 select S v0 0:02.43 /usr/local/bin/rxvt 1110 38711 1 0 20 0 37256 4252 select S v0 0:02.46 /usr/local/bin/rxvt 1110 38714 1 0 20 0 37256 4252 select S v0 0:02.37 /usr/local/bin/rxvt PID 38621 (/usr/local/libexec/tracker-extract), child of 38565 (xfce4-session). I have no clue what the runaway process does, but I vaguely suspect that it is related to the oddball desktop thumbnails. This isn't (yet) a showstopper, but is irritating. Can I just kill it ? Will it be respawned if needed ? My desktop arrangements are rather elaborate (*many* xterms & rxvt's open), since I use this box to access all others on my LAN, which is why I don't logout & back in very often :-/. Any clues appreciated, any more info needed, just ask. TIA & have a nice rest-of-the-weekend. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 21:10:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E002B531E0 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EADCF18A7 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-137-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.137.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CD4D27DDB; Sun, 29 May 2016 23:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u4TLAMh8003115; Sun, 29 May 2016 23:10:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:10:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/xconsole not showing any output Message-Id: <20160529231022.7c642855.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160529221802.6496c217.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:10:26 -0000 On Sun, 29 May 2016 22:36:26 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016, the wise Polytropon wrote: > > Are the console permissions set properly? Check if xdm-config does have > > the following (or applying) lines: > > > > DisplayManager._0.setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 > > DisplayManager._0.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole > > DisplayManager._0.reset: /etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole > > > > In your case, the paths will probably be different, but check the > > content of the GiveConsole and TakeConsole scripts: They make sure > > your user will actually be able to read from the console (as it's > > initially owned by root, and only has rw-/---/--- permissions). > > The GiveConsole script says: > chown $USER /dev/console > > And the TakeConsole script says: > chmod 622 /dev/console > chown root /dev/console > > Should the owner be the user here? This both looks correct, as far as I can tell. $USER is set when logging in, and xdm sets the owner correctly (as you have verified); when logging out, the default owner (root) is restored. > > When you are then logged in, check "ls -l /dev/console", and you > > should see something similar to this: > > > > % ll /dev/console > > crw------- 1 poly wheel 0, 5 2016-05-29 18:38:20 /dev/console > > > > If this is _not_ the case, xconsole doesn't work as expected. > > The permissions of /dev/console look ok: > crw------- 1 marco wheel 0x9 May 29 21:24 /dev/console This also looks like xdm configuration is not the problem here. Do you get any error message when manually starting xconsole from a terminal? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 21:48:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CB8B53C40 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D2FC1B17 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan ([83.160.85.125]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id 0Mms1t0052iF10301MmtBF; Sun, 29 May 2016 23:46:54 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u4TLkppG006308 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 29 May 2016 23:46:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:46:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen X-X-Sender: marco@localhost Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: Polytropon cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/xconsole not showing any output In-Reply-To: <20160529231022.7c642855.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20160529221802.6496c217.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160529231022.7c642855.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:48:06 -0000 On Sun, 29 May 2016, the wise Polytropon wrote: >> The permissions of /dev/console look ok: >> crw------- 1 marco wheel 0x9 May 29 21:24 /dev/console > > This also looks like xdm configuration is not the problem here. Do you > get any error message when manually starting xconsole from a terminal? When running plain xconsole without options I get: Couldn't open console. But starting xconsole with "xconsole -file /dev/console" shows no errors, except that it doesn't display anything. Testing it with something like "echo test > /dev/console" results in xconsole staying blank, but switching to ctrl+alt+f1 shows that the output went to console/ttyv0 just fine. So I think xconsole doesn't point to /dev/console (ttyv0) but to ttyv8 (where X is) for some reason. -- QOTD: "It seems to me that your antenna doesn't bring in too many stations anymore." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 29 22:58:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930E0B54D81 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward4h.cmail.yandex.net (forward4h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50A361CB8 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 22:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (smtp4h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.186.21]) by forward4h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 653F620C95 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 01:58:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BCA8F2C02BA for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 01:58:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id ud58GEDnqa-w8nuWOIl; Mon, 30 May 2016 01:58:08 +0300 (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1464562689; bh=dH9koBeJqhW+qEWoqx5Od8cPUdS80u8iJw8OphkKrzA=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=cCR8Q9Td1UGYVOJGxQ1HpH43r0e2QIaUxamktG1BCR6U5Kan1r23d6N1KIJclJxQE npp8U4SETEFFaY/4/f+5VeTSEbZ91Y8JOo9DYeVUHCefjaNh8ZB4PJNzKR8GBVRton 0lfSuG7EPVuGl0mlfSrK89CtcwRrMSjpgt4sRSDU= Authentication-Results: smtp4h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 From: Stari Karp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: time Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:57:31 -0400 Message-ID: <4210292.4dMslNSaQN@lumiwa.farm.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.3-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:58:25 -0000 Hi! I am new Installed FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 17 08:43:55 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 and I have a problem with time. How I setup time (I adoing the same from version 6??): >From "Select local or UTC...) I press NO, than America -- North and South, than United States and Eastern time. On the last question "Does the abbreviation 'EDT' look reasonable?" I pressed YES. And here is now 7:55 PM and date shows me 10:55 PM. In /etc/rc.conf I have also ntpd_enable="YES". I have the same settings all the time but it doesn't works now. Thank you. SK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 00:09:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810D5B54D12 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 00:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C94E1A62 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 00:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:8911:303a:94e8:f3b1] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1063679; Sun, 29 May 2016 23:08:58 +0000 Subject: Re: time To: Stari Karp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4210292.4dMslNSaQN@lumiwa.farm.net> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 19:08:56 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4210292.4dMslNSaQN@lumiwa.farm.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050500010003060707060107" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 00:09:09 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050500010003060707060107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/29/16 10:57 PM, Stari Karp wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I am new Installed FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 17 08:43:55 UTC = 2016 =20 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 = and I=20 > have a problem with time. How I setup time (I adoing the same from vers= ion=20 > 6??): > From "Select local or UTC...) I press NO, than America -- North and Sou= th,=20 > than United States and Eastern time. On the last question "Does the=20 > abbreviation 'EDT' look reasonable?" I pressed YES. So now FreeBSD knows what time zone you want it to be in, this doesn't mean the hardware knows what time it is. man date will show you how to set the time. Or you can get ntp running and wait until it syncs the time. >=20 > And here is now 7:55 PM and date shows me 10:55 PM. In /etc/rc.conf I h= ave=20 > also ntpd_enable=3D"YES". Really? Looks like you sent your mail at 6:57pm EDT????? As a matter of fact, it is 7:07pm EDT as I write this. man ntpq and try the "peers" command in ntpq to see what ntp thinks is happening. 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mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF60B4F2C5 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 00:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE1E513D9 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 00:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-137-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.137.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F02BC3CD44; Mon, 30 May 2016 02:18:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u4U0IUKr003836; Mon, 30 May 2016 02:18:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 02:18:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Stari Karp Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time Message-Id: <20160530021830.7031575d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4210292.4dMslNSaQN@lumiwa.farm.net> References: <4210292.4dMslNSaQN@lumiwa.farm.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 00:28:35 -0000 On Sun, 29 May 2016 22:57:31 -0400, Stari Karp wrote: > Hi! > > I am new Installed FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 17 08:43:55 UTC 2016 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 and I > have a problem with time. How I setup time (I adoing the same from version > 6??): > From "Select local or UTC...) I press NO, than America -- North and South, > than United States and Eastern time. On the last question "Does the > abbreviation 'EDT' look reasonable?" I pressed YES. > > And here is now 7:55 PM and date shows me 10:55 PM. In /etc/rc.conf I have > also ntpd_enable="YES". > > I have the same settings all the time but it doesn't works now. Manually set the date and let ntpd correct it if neccessary. As root, run "date 0755" (if you want 7:55) or whatever is approximately the correct time you run the command at. See "man date" for details on the format to be supplied. If I remember correctly, the older ntpdate command would only change the system time up to a certain threshold, "adjust" it, and you needed to manually set the time "near" the real time, or supply a specific flag for a "bigger" system time change. Today's ntpd should handle this fine. PS. Answer before question: From: Jon Radel Subject: Re: time Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 19:08:56 -0400 And "then": From: Stari Karp Subject: time Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:57:31 -0400 This is really magnificent time travel magic at OS level. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 04:06:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5410B511F0 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 04:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ooxxao@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x230.google.com (mail-yw0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7CCC16CF for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 04:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ooxxao@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x230.google.com with SMTP id o16so153457171ywd.2 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:06:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=nQpholCvyGFH+lw5DCxfAnrI8he+Q3hStdIXnvVcYEo=; b=jgjbdVX6H83oge7rvc+jgILkoGf6dACe66f+70C0oEaWgNepPp6Pycy8M3NGt+Pt7t k/ebCzSxLzVhpNCYm57NvSOk5N/07hwsABTmLMwJ5jabm/qWRk8/tgSaUS6wvA8sSB8x RpamknzMI0ANP0MUJp96HReDgVj2T80rIZA6uQ6+tRSd5JdyAGk6PSaC52OfyK8uVB91 DWV8UMhBhc0zFm86gJVKlXdHDlIG2VJE+eiHpupJEPF5Jgo8/3K7QNLwezt8QwwFK6UR RsSah9qgp+uJHWsQE+dab5mBdjb+uYuUDWmMUmfzS4D+UcNF6ta6UBXbvOeYZr1ydjNJ Tbgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=nQpholCvyGFH+lw5DCxfAnrI8he+Q3hStdIXnvVcYEo=; b=KmpPbWX4tBlzX5YY7rSwWXirUKHWQeYkQx045Dxk/cb2BRpDN2+H+clllCAh3Ph5oQ tD5uFTOXXDB0xi5stD/A4jxPcdvzPkLtSo08mPNhtjeKLnSG/flBR+UtIWPOni8q18+B QbI0ZlhwUjoB1bRSNqiHS1wgPJLFuRIewnIj1fzc0G3TRfKspFfLpUn+fKlmfLIK+YUj Z9wc7yLIDVs3aWKTtM+Rx8PCWj0SISKJAUNZEfu2/pmhyHVH+Jd7WN5PgEM0laaQvDqR qZ1XLuwzlFOubGg+pxrCSSaS9RVbYUK5OZStES5DS1ENHzbItyhgHswrtnOyomylN1gD Y/ZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJXSQ/haIv+/YgqZYJhsPDlhTmQdmJ35lwO5CKJ/nlA0gy9mWbRwD+Uf9/lLTazcvXiJCG60mLWY6Io/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.229.195 with SMTP id o186mr15457907ywe.117.1464581168679; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.13.216.197 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2016 21:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:06:08 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: gdb can't find any source after compile through distcc From: =?UTF-8?B?6rSA7Jqp6rmA?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 04:06:10 -0000 I'm using several FreeBSD machines, and all of them are in same version, 10.3-RELEASE i386. And installed distcc on every machine through ports, /usr/ports/devel/distcc. The distcc version is distcc-3.1. Using ninja build system with Clang 3.4.1 instead of GCC. Any compile was done very successfully. But after, every time I try to make break point in gdb, it cannot catch any source files of the project. I think It may be the result of the temp files named distccd_xxxxxxxx.ii that distcc/distccd give and receive between machines. It located at /tmp/ and it is volatile. Because clang write path and file name like /tmp/distccd_xxxxxxxx.ii and distccd_xxxxxxxx.ii on object file, gdb only knows the 'distccd_XX.ii' file is the real one. I've tried 'directory' command in gdb, and it is not sufficient because my file tree is so complicated and too big. And also, I need to recompile project again when I changed the obj files. gdb is just fine when I compiled locally without distcc. I can't use gcc right now (I can't modify existing compile structure), and pump-mode isn't helpful either. Is there any solutions for my situation? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 07:39:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A08B54DB8 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 07:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp205.alice.it (smtp205.alice.it [82.57.200.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38531175D for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 07:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (79.42.58.185) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 572625A0087E5A3A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:39:34 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] (may be forged)) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u4U7dUsR073216 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:39:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] (may be forged) claimed to be alamar.ventu From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Some developer's questions To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:39:30 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 07:39:47 -0000 Hello. I've been moving some of my boxes from 9.3 to 10.3: I'll have to upgrade them all by end of the year, since 9.3 will be unsupported by then. I'm a developer and I'm trying to understand how to cope with the shift from GCC to LLVM/CLang. The compiler itself is fine: I even tend to say I like it (possibly also because our GCC was quite obsolete). However, I still have some issues and I'd appreciate any suggestion or statement about the following. DEBUGGING If I understand correctly, LLVM has its own debugger, LLDB, but I find no such thing in our OS. Is it the official position that we should use GDB and that it's fully supported? While I'd like the answer to be positive (mainly because I would not need to learn a new synthax), there are some issues: _ since a long time I find base's GDB practically useless (due to crashes, missing features, etc...); this didn't change with 10.3, due to us still hanging to an obsolete version (I know the political reasons and I don't want to start a discussion or flame on this); _ so I've been installing 7.11 from ports, which works a bit better, but with the switch to clang we lost some functionality: e.g. "p v.size()" does not work anymore on C++ containers; is there a way to get this back? _ as I said, there is no LLDB in base, but it can be installed with devel/lldb37, devel/lldb38, or any devel/llvmXX. Is this (which one?) the way I shoudl go? _ Any change to get some Emacs integration then? _ Anything else/any other hint? PROFILING I need to know which part of my code is wasting CPU, but, even more, I need to know which lines are executed and which one are not even touched by a set of input data. Up to 9.3, I used to compile with "-pg --coverage" and link with "-pg -lgcov", but that does not work anymore on 10.3, giving: > /usr/bin/ld: undefined reference to symbol `__pthread_cxa_finalize@@FBSDprivate_1.0' (try adding -lthr) > //lib/libthr.so.3: could not read symbols: Bad value Adding "-lthr" doesn't solve, however, since I'll get tons of > undefined reference to `llvm_gcda_start_file' > undefined reference to `llvm_gcda_emit_function' > undefined reference to `llvm_gcda_emit_arcs' AFAICT we have no such things in our base libraries. Am I wrong? So I read I might be using an old way of profiling and that I should add "-fprofile-instr-generate" instead. This, however, leads to: > c++: error: unknown argument: '-fprofile-instr-generate' I tried "-fprofile-generate", but then I get: > c++: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-fprofile-generate' So I'm stuck: how should I do profiling? Do I need to switch to a newer compiler from ports? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 09:17:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4CFB53FB4 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm38-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm38-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B69F1BFD for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1464599610; bh=Uo4pNjlvAcIz9DZkXrzaaIPF654HqIqJdvdyV3lbqEA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=DAfCyEuoEl+Ck2Ix78xF2SO0L/24Wzy0qJYaTDEPqIFaXNCwAkBDzcYGjzZoBCWq/tK0P6Xl9/iy/bDnMhOvXScpxfK/RbBlqX5cde5vfMB7hRrMo1EsCE4cwiPsfjWadCESq7jBRkya3mgM0fDRVLqwSFqospAiXtLekNu/MY3oR41ljFL+ta9+F1nt3sPsRcQ6rUgchai2JVIyMGFDFJeeyG72qj8UjANP0vKn1eUy+RP8j7uh8BW5gXCVVIFgAcKpRdjY1zVkcA1MJrByyYgj+EuBL4VERnGbPOTCeRqMEuE/6e1ukna0AfJuy99cOxgdth+ndl9aJ/KX3gO+Vg== Received: from [212.82.98.126] by nm38.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2016 09:13:30 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.72] by tm19.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2016 09:13:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2016 09:13:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 56503.48548.bm@smtp109.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: pK.09lAVM1mWnEBxE_z_z1e65SQmMv8WXSlrzytgl75BPvv vThS.6jmg_U7jhxXp7wKXLJ2.GhcnARRIq6dF_59ZkTnsMDIuIqABFcf2RjX 3FMgSyEszJ0jS8CA6iPCSmUklVglGZq8V9kss7vza4S_g3Ba4Hn2KLap236n 80dhoMeiQM9n98EGKKGuvUB.oy96zjfUas.jJ9JB8i1bx0VdNQdj3GCXInL. 8ZmQPZrYi8E9oJZ1EOpSrLa2Q8H6u2wHHMepVOvQxnvZt5xfThbf6hfBIaSs KQapS4pJ2pFw0l95e7Cg33LvUFQX.XTMq2r5cVINbCQRsrS6f1BOuL3.X0ZB uJMKmX9NDG2mZi7dtYdjk0mz5SvtzQ7t0GxlGzmVCu0XJt395of2PWbTbXwr yXrgZjU4fOE8ormWiW0w04_JixoNj9sI8jTnZm8OqKbXeZ1ld8e8RCkm1ZL9 xFalWhTfH.y7PodaT6EieRvUaYJID2qVa1YzCIuT_aOIEReFbRvfYiCfg.jK LVPOs2XxF4fsVf4CpRZ_mbaBo8MyrsPdVW3VQyoroE8Ufmf1sc.AldZOH0Rq l X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 11:13:30 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible bug with SCTP and iperf3? Message-Id: <20160530111330.67b480d76093966b634e3a54@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:17:02 -0000 On Sun, 29 May 2016 14:45:14 -0400 Manas Bhatnagar wrote: > Hello, > > I experienced a hard reset of a system recently, running FreeBSD > 10-RELEASE, while running iperf3. I do not know much about SCTP nor > iperf3, I was just fiddling around with iperf3 arguments. These are > the commands I ran: > > iperf3 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 > iperf3 -u -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 > iperf3 --sctp -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 > iperf3 --sctp -c $IP -P 4 -t 60 > iperf3 --sctp -c $IP -t 60 > iperf3 --sctp --nstreams 64 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 > iperf3 --sctp --nstreams 2 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 > > What I remember is that the second last command would not show any > data as being transferred and when I ran the last command, the system > running the iperf3 server did a hard reset. How do you run the server? Had you a log file? Did you run it as root? Try: %iperf3 -s -D -V --logfile filename Can you run the last 2 with -V -R --get-server-output --logfile filename? %iperf3 --sctp --nstreams 2 -c $IP -P 32 -t 60 -V -R --get-server-output filename Didn't -P for tcp/udp connections only for emulate sctp multistream capability? AFAIK you don't need both. > I don't know if this is a bug or not but it seems to my inexperienced > eyes like it is something that could be used maliciously to bring down > a system running 'iperf3 -s' and so I thought it would be best to > share this with the mailing list. Thanks to you. > Thank you, > Manas --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 09:27:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD2CB54242 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2h.cmail.yandex.net (forward2h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B7EB12B6 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 09:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (smtp1h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.144]) by forward2h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3250F20E0F; Mon, 30 May 2016 12:27:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CB6ED1341130; Mon, 30 May 2016 12:27:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id WLDHqx0OEL-R6gqBBfM; Mon, 30 May 2016 12:27:06 +0300 (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1464600427; bh=JxsW4G7uL2MW079WE+GsYopxuIqdeC/d/a3NKpo7ikc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:User-Agent:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=ObV5u9vAr+SzniZwuwB15OLIZbRIE4Wv1OVvEZ9OMX5E4aDuMhzqb/h6Tv5OG2dMv TlFimCTSyaIWCH0txVY3Os8iO+pgNWuMgDKge3hQkqvibF6d686wrnOzyVXtimTM7J Tp3yrZs2jWyR0K9StLzQQPiL0AjBavJmDqolfCdg= Authentication-Results: smtp1h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 From: Stari Karp To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 05:25:45 -0400 Message-ID: <2955758.rgNZLShGbi@lumiwa.farm.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.3-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20160530021830.7031575d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4210292.4dMslNSaQN@lumiwa.farm.net> <20160530021830.7031575d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:27:12 -0000 On Monday 30 May 2016 02:18:30 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016 22:57:31 -0400, Stari Karp wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I am new Installed FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 17 08:43:55 UTC > > 2016 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 and > > I have a problem with time. How I setup time (I adoing the same from > > version 6??): > > From "Select local or UTC...) I press NO, than America -- North and South, > > than United States and Eastern time. On the last question "Does the > > abbreviation 'EDT' look reasonable?" I pressed YES. > > > > And here is now 7:55 PM and date shows me 10:55 PM. In /etc/rc.conf I have > > also ntpd_enable="YES". > > > > I have the same settings all the time but it doesn't works now. > > Manually set the date and let ntpd correct it if neccessary. > As root, run "date 0755" (if you want 7:55) or whatever is > approximately the correct time you run the command at. See > "man date" for details on the format to be supplied. > > If I remember correctly, the older ntpdate command would > only change the system time up to a certain threshold, > "adjust" it, and you needed to manually set the time "near" > the real time, or supply a specific flag for a "bigger" > system time change. Today's ntpd should handle this fine. > > > > PS. > Answer before question: > > From: Jon Radel > Subject: Re: time > Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 19:08:56 -0400 > > And "then": > > From: Stari Karp > Subject: time > Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:57:31 -0400 > > This is really magnificent time travel magic at OS level. ;-) Thank you very much. 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May 2016, 22:57:31 -0400, Stari Karp wrote: > I am new Installed FreeBSD [...] and I have a problem with > time. How I setup time: > >From "Select local or UTC...) I press NO, than America -- North and South, > than United States and Eastern time. On the last question "Does the > abbreviation 'EDT' look reasonable?" I pressed YES. > > And here is now 7:55 PM and date shows me 10:55 PM. In /etc/rc.conf I have > also ntpd_enable="YES". You can set the time zone by just copying the appropriate file: # cp -i /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Denver /etc/localtime or wherever you reside. NTP and cron do the rest. 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Is there a way to run them manually so I >> can verify the files are really being created and populated correctly? > > You mean periodic(8)? Which, not coincidentally, documents how to send the reports to a file without changing the scripts. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 18:35:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0CB54271 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F3AF1DCE for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C516221A for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 14:35:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SPhdc8sRzZsW for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97E4662219 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1464633299; bh=2ONEShtVZzjQeeOHRvmjUeu8d9UqoOhFKignFuvYDrs=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=WicQsZisqw2RiaZrZpxA6FahCb80fe5Qqz5REfc+4dc9aUypoLn26V8gCiaNIEzt1 uW25Gf0qsR6AsE5pZ7U5j8nztY0meOgUhpvK9NZVxNqhPvA+W57wc/Do/GYkz20E/r CZwE67GdZxlVR7imISnI4awN2npzkaTPt2LIewOc8vJYXATsCmq3dDYJUgNB2wfcvW 51qcLGKKCtRxa1aTdJu+3fLA/lF3oOErYmvismVvRNdAq0fmhTlNvuxwf7tYRQdWnj yc/gu6NhRjSIyRpTAumBDCZtazNk35/LxIrEkpv4NJJBwqbwHKWjd6UuDUOjb55zyf avUqrbbuG3kHQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2016 14:34:59 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:34:59 -0400 Subject: Creating a BHyve guest From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:35:09 -0000 I am trying, without much success, to create a FreeBSD guest on a FreeBSD host, both version 10.3. These are the steps I have followed thus far (refs.: the Handbook s. 21.7 and the wiki https://wiki.freebsd.org/Jenkins/VMSetup ). To create the BHyve based VM on the FreeBSD host the following steps were followed. 1. We are using the zfs file system which combines both file-system and volume management. We first create a pool to hold our VM disk images. These are where the storage used by the VM will be created. zfs create zroot/vm 2. Next we set the mode for the VM storage pool image files to be considered devices. This provides certain improvements in performance and security as it relates to VM guests. zfs set volmode=dev zroot/vm zfs get volmode zroot/vm 3. Now we create a disk image file to hold the VM. We will name it after the vm that we intend to create (samba_dc01) so that it is readily identifiable on the host. The existing MS AD-DC can only support a 120Gbyte disk which is only 50% utilised so a 200Gbyte (-V 200G) should prove sufficient. zfs create -V 200G zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img find /dev -name samba_dc01\* /dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img 4. At this point a suitable install source must be obtained. These are usually disk files that contain a CD-ROM or DVD iso9660 formatted data disk. Because of the format specification sued these are often referred to simply as isos. In this case the FreeBSD isos are found at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/10.3/. The version number (10.3) naturally will change over time and so must be accounted for when specifying the url. The utility wget or curl can be used to directly download the appropriate iso image file to a suitable location on the host's file system. However the install image file is transferred it is important that the downloaded file be checked against its SHA256 or SHA512 signature as given on the source site to insure that the download is intact and is identical to the file on the source. The checksums are contained in a suitable named file provided from the host. In this case it was ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/10.3/CHECKSUM.SHA256-FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64 sha256 -q /root/FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso 3f33fc506b18d752564c3ba92419592a489fceef43f73827c42a4e4d31fd4b7d grep FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso CHECKSUM.SHA256-FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64 SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso) = 3f33fc506b18d752564c3ba92419592a489fceef43f73827c42a4e4d31fd4b7d 5. Once the iso image for the installer is downloaded, in this case to the /root directory, and its checksum verified then the process of creating a new FreeBSD VM instance is carried out using the supplied shell script. sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ -d /dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img \ -i -I /root/FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso \ samba_dc01 This all seems to work as documented. I configure the new vm, confirm my choices and shut down. When I attempt to restart the new system using either of the following then the attempt fails. bhyve -A -H -P -s 0:0,hostbridge \ > -s 1:0,lpc \ > -s 2:0,virtio-net,tap0 \ > -s 3:0,virtio-blk,/dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img \ > -l com1,stdio -c 2 -m 4096M \ > samba_dc01 virtual machine cannot be booted or sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ > -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ > -d samba_dc01.img \ > samba_dc01 Launching virtual machine "samba_dc01" ... Installation CDROM image "./release.iso" is not readable I cannot see any other steps in the documentation that I have read. What am I missing or what am I doing wrong? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 30 18:57:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C9BB5482F for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.manas.88@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qg0-x235.google.com (mail-qg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3B651A0B for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.manas.88@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qg0-x235.google.com with SMTP id p34so11679684qgp.1 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 11:57:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=OH1OMhPUuIzNqVymh0H9Ap+8y1ocVgqy/SmsrVBmyOA=; b=KX7URjyDvuvFiPWB+734Q2g1kQkQRJHqweJVfZl7yVCAMaiXbwYzdKIWlHSyOso85S KTc1FJjK5nfgOdX/VXMeAx+ANLFyFFTVy9+Rp6FJbncZi2oyuuUcuvl6CSqx4KQucBEk eCcGfMif4+ww4DRvmNbtQU6BIPRhNPaGDSxgrTurbALefxGMTzvDeRQgQoFlJeYy4suQ UHvUMSvrGloxS48Gqj7BBOFatfU3379b7x7iKF+OuVgIPxmxvDtSzaZ1QDzOVwcvpGMX dC4dmF9N6HRzJpbDbOBLe5YaYaZvw7gSW69cRldmiYMDT6fuw8QWCJFsIaR/O2atVmQP FaKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=OH1OMhPUuIzNqVymh0H9Ap+8y1ocVgqy/SmsrVBmyOA=; b=UcwmKqTkBaBKxftte6BMPpiapiV2dPEzeUrlq002DBkdi7JXB/PapF6UTcq0nhSU8t Lxa9cDoVj736I1Z9q9cYLoZ3sdUw387DvJmADDm3EiVb2cOe0fWamntZWLdK8A15Lp1o LWjaxauPRC5XHa3wtXO4QeID+Efag1bKQGnTjRK2tU+4/kDRBxRgV/Fdlwy+KJOqEjhP L0Kr+GXy2NN6ALDSZcxUxyqCZ/AoJhm5g1I4Ozgt0XaAFRbvEkYiKLxQ7lOmockxWOxm K2gsXL3EOm60jGovcQ5cWjFCnXLIaGGLWgDH7M0eTGGofL4C01+sIx1iWqFq42DUzUVy 1rcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJGdOWmmtRNT2jXN6S/qDGum80Onaae/g3Kv3g9RFJmvwkxUxQtia3hoKJki5lPwaKx8Ofabx5R72FJYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.32.198 with SMTP id h64mr26428037qgh.53.1464634637790; Mon, 30 May 2016 11:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.21.146 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2016 11:57:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160530111330.67b480d76093966b634e3a54@yahoo.es> References: <20160530111330.67b480d76093966b634e3a54@yahoo.es> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:57:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Possible bug with SCTP and iperf3? From: Manas Bhatnagar To: Eduardo Morras Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:57:19 -0000 Hello Eduardo :) > How do you run the server? Had you a log file? Did you run it as root? Try: The server was run as root using 'iperf3 -s' >Didn't -P for tcp/udp connections only for emulate sctp multistream capability? AFAIK you don't need both. Yeah, I can't claim to know what I was doing when I ran those commands. You're probably right about not needing both. I saw the arguments in the manual and thought I'd try some of them out (though, in retrospect, I really should not have been running the server as root). Unfortunately the system that was running this is currently performing other tasks and I can't risk a reboot. I will try to find another system that I can test on and get back to you. Thanks for you response, Manas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 01:32:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A541B5507F for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 01:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellymartin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22f.google.com (mail-vk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 150731DB0 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 01:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellymartin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id r140so240356017vkf.0 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=alq++9ifqRVzU37QzDrpk3Vb9/bhqF7M6yReCXRhp5I=; b=XTlttiP6tYuniTXdl0gWDECj5QMOYk2UQ+0f/3IyAIFCrVAjfd+iWNrHTq/qHgzuXS u9DwioQaEUYpmRas1TzBvFi54tJdAZCVz4WkZbHTRXdku5SllIZgOrME1gE7uizARVGS G/YNOvbFDYiL6biDUWo5gtLwD+Ef4upXzkhJAw5P6zoEa4XqHSRDBSRnaEGlu0cStl80 6Wax2qAv83J1qhrwZUSs/A20+me8Iu+vhkgX3vlARag3jEXD+4+vmpfN+IXo1rWgStqC 88h3hh+jrgvXqb0wIJCOjKA42UHKF8ni4BOP5VYZyHKcN5+H2M1Fb1T7X1ClFShgLG+d Ts5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=alq++9ifqRVzU37QzDrpk3Vb9/bhqF7M6yReCXRhp5I=; b=TRSybeabXDVcdqD/hVov5bk9vGR0g0Bwt5bJGqJdREbK6aeu2MtFZl3Ia9F0HeK9Sf KXnZj9SYcDtAXRCRFqr5o7MZa/bUpaCArisXrV8Gj4JfiKz2mBQ3wsFUXsHtdBnoTMSy VKdVTw1P+WBMtShmTr/IZgegPP6NMpamgY/cgsopfTiCLLWkCJ+fA+uzikqKN8oUkXSa PWV1IemF9SVKx2L0pA0dCdX/Ptt60QvdrYtglowbZj6mGHgs/YaHpePeyUkkkyVRy++T 7rSB+EkqWCCL3yioOu+34oXd7sEaJONUZeg++Sj8/XTfZ79tZwaPiKL1Upyyg4JX7IOF 5z8g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKvNd6oWK2sDUGNexGbY7sGzmi5L+ollrz5p8Gu7LxqXdVdyBdxTHdGTt1t7LGpAzENePwWkv69NB3VyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.148.1 with SMTP id w1mr16216073vkd.6.1464658341927; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.75.153 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 19:32:21 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: sendmail from a jail - intermittent problems From: Kelly Martin To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 01:32:23 -0000 I have a web server running in a jail that needs to send mail. The web server script is configured properly and I get mail from it intermittently... meaning, every once and a while but not reliably at all. Here's the kicker: all the sendmail requests show up properly in /var/log/maillog but most are just never received. They seem to vanish. I'm confused how this could happen. I can reliably send mail from the command line inside the jail. Here is a recent snipped from the log entries trying to send mail from the script. I've anonymized the email and domains to protect the innocent: May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: u4UMF24X054383: from=www, size=1911, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< 54bd126df09223d3801a199e5d72f22a@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54384]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: STARTTLS=client, relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54384]: u4UMF38c054384: from=, size=2021, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< 54bd126df09223d3801a199e5d72f22a@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: u4UMF24X054383: to=Noreen Somebody , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31911, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF38c054384 Message accepted for delivery) May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: u4UMF31m054387: from=www, size=1128, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< 7ecf1131971053c7881ba0295d547c7e@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54388]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: STARTTLS=client, relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54386]: STARTTLS=client, relay= gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54388]: u4UMF3lu054388: from=, size=1238, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< 7ecf1131971053c7881ba0295d547c7e@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: u4UMF31m054387: to=Noreen Somebody , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31128, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF3lu054388 Message accepted for delivery) May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: u4UMF3W9054391: from=www, size=987, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=< 9b64a1b5489988ac34a99a92bb95d501@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: STARTTLS=client, relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54392]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54390]: STARTTLS=client, relay= gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54386]: u4UMF38c054384: to=< noreensomebody@gmail.com>, ctladdr= (80/80), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=32021, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. [74.125.126.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646504 127si27813404itv.11 - gsmtp) May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54392]: u4UMF4Dq054392: from=, size=1070, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=< 9b64a1b5489988ac34a99a92bb95d501@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: u4UMF3W9054391: to= info@securesite.com,"SecureSite Admin" , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=60987, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF4Dq054392 Message accepted for delivery) May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54390]: u4UMF3lu054388: to=< noreensomebody@gmail.com>, ctladdr= (80/80), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31238, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. [173.194.198.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646505 69si3936877ioe.191 - gsmtp) May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54394]: STARTTLS=client, relay= aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54394]: u4UMF4Dq054392: to=< admin@securesite.com>,, ctladdr= (80/80), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=61070, relay= aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.70.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646505 f3si40822457ioa.19 - gsmtp) >From what I can see the mail is going out fine but I never receive it. In this case it's To: noreensomebody@gmail.com, who is a customer, and BCC: or CC: admin@securesite.com which is my email. Some details: - FreeBSD 10.x with latest patches - jail only runs Apache/PHP, sendmail, cron and syslog - jail bound to lo1 as 10.0.0.1, no external interfaces - Internal Sendmail running as a daemon - no sendmail entry in the jail's /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.local - mail is not being blocked by the firewall on the host - host is running on DigitalOcean's public cloud. I don't know if they do any outbound mail filtering to hosted customer services (doubtful) Any thoughts on how to better diagnose this issue? Should I try to use an external SMTP server? Ultimately I need to get the built-in Sendmail working reliably however. If I send mail to one of my own email addresses from the command line, I do get the email. Here's what that log looks like. Maybe I'm missing something obvious in the previous log. [CODE]May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: u4V0CWsL054911: from=root, size=95, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201605310012.u4V0CWsL054911@webjail>, relay=root@localhost May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: STARTTLS=client, relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54912]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54912]: u4V0CXLL054912: from=, size=395, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201605310012.u4V0CWsL054911@webjail>, proto=ESMTPS, daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: u4V0CWsL054911: to= me@mytestsite.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30095, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4V0CXLL054912 Message accepted for delivery) May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54914]: STARTTLS=client, relay= aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 May 30 18:12:34 webjail sm-mta[54914]: u4V0CXLL054912: to=, ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30395, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.193.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464653554 i78si28053286ita.45 - gsmtp) Thanks, Kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 01:41:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AAAB55236 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 01:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com (mail-oi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDCB4111C for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 01:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x235.google.com with SMTP id j1so284938711oih.3 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:41:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=UXkxp2FDQAnQr5ka9PpGVLLOb5OqQ3F1YdulMzTnvNE=; b=NqUZOwmsTU2k2Z35M94u/de1L+8/HGnJV8VjttC2z2X/k5UcOXOXhVac1IgeSgPSq8 pMhvcERgYAJi79iCKQFoj4ECTHO21Dh7Yxnn5teLZMGWl0z/s+favgjrTtNimTlrLuks IzilA9AIdqh8GvOlPsPGTs+I6K6ApdrqY5LOvYbRwBfNieZ/P2kcy8MGGP0cH/dI4LiK +CexlQqvlFZvXHwdzU/uMmw9VDIxwKnZfXIjXamZj1rbEoJVtiSkpO1LyXLjPwePYs53 N8cinThn4uhWRLNfH8eAF/rmcr8uy3lcXOYrx1r1GQSK7hxZ3GHTqkT5NXkgOYWJm46q jWaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=UXkxp2FDQAnQr5ka9PpGVLLOb5OqQ3F1YdulMzTnvNE=; b=UC4A6TDwqgmti2fGQnA6rTN7x1J1+cIFPLEYLT3chLY/PFOncliqDIF56b+OMZuHDb uBrdOGYLNELMRX64D0fCifJZgTsQsxwv4c2u/HtxuCXXAOZ7l/4WQnh38urfT8LYK1L8 jDAGSxm5bZfKAPEP4LjrsM4JQ286Yhks+0TUhzIA07XhCqiVx538RzJZZCszmm+4tiS5 m6/7awTyGgeD97ADejut2u69SJDORYus39yLMVSXoxd7PcuUd6BQMqAajPsfX5gGN/0C 8vsSQUj9CySl+3xLy/veWBGj50Mm2CwIf/YvEVcUcRoglXP3dNPQP/6agPrDgm85KzFT +ZUg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIHzD3R2FM7gl+hy0gmr8nxHmMSMPZwUa42y4+Jn2/Ak4wZhdwSQHcEY8nRH0FZnSsRBsaZsl2xA6RWPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.157.51.88 with SMTP id u24mr18016102otd.105.1464658905789; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.48.4 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2016 18:41:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:41:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sendmail from a jail - intermittent problems From: Waitman Gobble To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 01:41:47 -0000 On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Kelly Martin wrote: > > I have a web server running in a jail that needs to send mail. The web > server script is configured properly and I get mail from it > intermittently... meaning, every once and a while but not reliably at all. > Here's the kicker: all the sendmail requests show up properly in > /var/log/maillog but most are just never received. They seem to vanish. I'm > confused how this could happen. I can reliably send mail from the command > line inside the jail. > > Here is a recent snipped from the log entries trying to send mail from the > script. I've anonymized the email and domains to protect the innocent: > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: u4UMF24X054383: from=www, > size=1911, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > 54bd126df09223d3801a199e5d72f22a@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54384]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: STARTTLS=client, > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54384]: u4UMF38c054384: from=, > size=2021, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > 54bd126df09223d3801a199e5d72f22a@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, > daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: u4UMF24X054383: to=Noreen Somebody > , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:00, > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31911, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF38c054384 Message accepted for delivery) > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: u4UMF31m054387: from=www, > size=1128, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > 7ecf1131971053c7881ba0295d547c7e@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54388]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: STARTTLS=client, > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54386]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54388]: u4UMF3lu054388: from=, > size=1238, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > 7ecf1131971053c7881ba0295d547c7e@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, > daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: u4UMF31m054387: to=Noreen Somebody > , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:00, > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31128, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF3lu054388 Message accepted for delivery) > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: u4UMF3W9054391: from=www, > size=987, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=< > 9b64a1b5489988ac34a99a92bb95d501@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: STARTTLS=client, > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54392]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54390]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54386]: u4UMF38c054384: to=< > noreensomebody@gmail.com>, ctladdr= (80/80), delay=00:00:01, > xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=32021, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > [74.125.126.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646504 127si27813404itv.11 - > gsmtp) > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54392]: u4UMF4Dq054392: from=, > size=1070, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=< > 9b64a1b5489988ac34a99a92bb95d501@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, > daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: u4UMF3W9054391: to= > info@securesite.com,"SecureSite Admin" , ctladdr=www > (80/80), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=60987, > relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF4Dq054392 Message > accepted for delivery) > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54390]: u4UMF3lu054388: to=< > noreensomebody@gmail.com>, ctladdr= (80/80), delay=00:00:01, > xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31238, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > [173.194.198.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646505 69si3936877ioe.191 - > gsmtp) > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54394]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54394]: u4UMF4Dq054392: to=< > admin@securesite.com>,, ctladdr= (80/80), > delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=61070, relay= > aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.70.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646505 > f3si40822457ioa.19 - gsmtp) > > From what I can see the mail is going out fine but I never receive it. In > this case it's To: noreensomebody@gmail.com, who is a customer, and BCC: or > CC: admin@securesite.com which is my email. > > Some details: > - FreeBSD 10.x with latest patches > - jail only runs Apache/PHP, sendmail, cron and syslog > - jail bound to lo1 as 10.0.0.1, no external interfaces > - Internal Sendmail running as a daemon > - no sendmail entry in the jail's /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.local > - mail is not being blocked by the firewall on the host > - host is running on DigitalOcean's public cloud. I don't know if they do > any outbound mail filtering to hosted customer services (doubtful) > > Any thoughts on how to better diagnose this issue? Should I try to use an > external SMTP server? Ultimately I need to get the built-in Sendmail > working reliably however. > > If I send mail to one of my own email addresses from the command line, I do > get the email. Here's what that log looks like. Maybe I'm missing something > obvious in the previous log. > > [CODE]May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: u4V0CWsL054911: from=root, > size=95, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201605310012.u4V0CWsL054911@webjail>, > relay=root@localhost > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: STARTTLS=client, > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54912]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54912]: u4V0CXLL054912: from=, > size=395, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201605310012.u4V0CWsL054911@webjail>, > proto=ESMTPS, daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: u4V0CWsL054911: to= > me@mytestsite.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=relay, pri=30095, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, > stat=Sent (u4V0CXLL054912 Message accepted for delivery) > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54914]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > May 30 18:12:34 webjail sm-mta[54914]: u4V0CXLL054912: to=, > ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, > mailer=esmtp, pri=30395, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.193.26], > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464653554 i78si28053286ita.45 - gsmtp) > > Thanks, > Kelly > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Could be SPF or spam filtering type of issue? Take a look at the headers on the mail you do receive. Did you try using telnet / openssl s_client to send email from the jail? An SMTP service might be a good idea, there are many which offer free/gratis accounts for low/small volumes. -- Waitman Gobble Los Altos California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 03:23:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34293B55211 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 03:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellymartin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com (mail-vk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56F71BB0 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 03:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellymartin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id r140so242616712vkf.0 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 20:23:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=RU29i5uNcYMa45USk4T+XqS7mv22quCZzB4DHWOzW9M=; b=Yjq2PEDbI4d4VKNtDhEyXj7DFnk29Z68MqsDc5We8KRbue5a5RSdB6kbOEPGcnWIG7 ABAwJHW/JbGUaEUp7KpMgn2tBoNZXRTZae7Gv9whQ59GkVcNWNtJrHkwY4wVu8ewqCHk wuE7/MtStJDcBnDHrlXZXGMZYa/DBbIl0naK7fYvu/8wgUmyP4yxygDw7gYAEIcujGtj rdcSF1XArdtZH8dT1lPcKHWFb8Ti46YohjNvtWG7eGBWZjgxX7hG5MRuaxOxOYwnteZi Vkte3FYsLT9HfgdnrNS8/4UqwYnkss0IOD5XQvo2b3ZPSKD3WYYowpAUdgcAiCDwc66H lJZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=RU29i5uNcYMa45USk4T+XqS7mv22quCZzB4DHWOzW9M=; b=apVNaiBlVJu4t5c0ej+B1gSasLn6GJmpIWxwYM3k6PQ6PkfO9CMQs/C98M6Z5Ptruh xYWTfk3ePoSgTdSH3y25LJMKswR4TcpY4PtRLmv1TncK8/fb8IED6fTS4wk9xZAFZ5N9 /N/O99OU+9lWAULFICnqnAOaIrPyZ5/Id6Gr3K1xRwnKiCmoYqeKiBsLNnn4vWd4dLNu STtEfRd+kmsjS+ndx0G44qE6kxTq9bxIo5i2WfY822iSXFrQ6M6bHG34oFlh3MQzzkvQ +46Ubzi2ELW3lWdeh6XICpksFpVe1iQgXFm0c+LdLM9zJFmRLx/UCirixZs+u+XZG7YD 8BpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ5PI/ubuMkW1aBrschy0s/EGeNY2lrfUVhfXDOAq8Sgh5grfUV+U3uXxV9H5/1y/6hxSbxQA6bEdH4tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.176.64.73 with SMTP id h67mr16146780uad.40.1464664991697; Mon, 30 May 2016 20:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.75.153 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2016 20:23:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:23:11 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sendmail from a jail - intermittent problems From: Kelly Martin To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 03:23:13 -0000 I double-checked and there's no SPF record for the domain. I should probably add one to prevent spam in the future. :) Also double-checked that the mail isn't getting filtered into spam on my recipient email - it's not. Also I telnet into sendmail today from within the jail and was able to successfully send mail & receive it on the other end. So I'm still at a loss as to why most of the mail from the server is vanishing... and finally, I took a look at the headers from the last good email received from the server and there's nothing obvious to me. I'll go through them again just in case. On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Kelly Martin > wrote: > > > > I have a web server running in a jail that needs to send mail. The web > > server script is configured properly and I get mail from it > > intermittently... meaning, every once and a while but not reliably at > all. > > Here's the kicker: all the sendmail requests show up properly in > > /var/log/maillog but most are just never received. They seem to vanish. > I'm > > confused how this could happen. I can reliably send mail from the command > > line inside the jail. > > > > Here is a recent snipped from the log entries trying to send mail from > the > > script. I've anonymized the email and domains to protect the innocent: > > > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: u4UMF24X054383: from=www, > > size=1911, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > > 54bd126df09223d3801a199e5d72f22a@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54384]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, > bits=256/256 > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: STARTTLS=client, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54384]: u4UMF38c054384: from= >, > > size=2021, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > > 54bd126df09223d3801a199e5d72f22a@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, > > daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54383]: u4UMF24X054383: to=Noreen > Somebody > > , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:00, > > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31911, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], > > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF38c054384 Message accepted for delivery) > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: u4UMF31m054387: from=www, > > size=1128, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > > 7ecf1131971053c7881ba0295d547c7e@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54388]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, > bits=256/256 > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: STARTTLS=client, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54386]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sm-mta[54388]: u4UMF3lu054388: from= >, > > size=1238, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=< > > 7ecf1131971053c7881ba0295d547c7e@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, > > daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > > May 30 16:15:03 webjail sendmail[54387]: u4UMF31m054387: to=Noreen > Somebody > > , ctladdr=www (80/80), delay=00:00:00, > > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31128, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], > > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF3lu054388 Message accepted for delivery) > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: u4UMF3W9054391: from=www, > > size=987, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=< > > 9b64a1b5489988ac34a99a92bb95d501@my.securesite.com>, relay=www@localhost > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: STARTTLS=client, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54392]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, > bits=256/256 > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54390]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54386]: u4UMF38c054384: to=< > > noreensomebody@gmail.com>, ctladdr= (80/80), > delay=00:00:01, > > xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=32021, relay= > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > > [74.125.126.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646504 127si27813404itv.11 > - > > gsmtp) > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54392]: u4UMF4Dq054392: from= >, > > size=1070, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=< > > 9b64a1b5489988ac34a99a92bb95d501@my.securesite.com>, proto=ESMTPS, > > daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sendmail[54391]: u4UMF3W9054391: to= > > info@securesite.com,"SecureSite Admin" , > ctladdr=www > > (80/80), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=60987, > > relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (u4UMF4Dq054392 > Message > > accepted for delivery) > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54390]: u4UMF3lu054388: to=< > > noreensomebody@gmail.com>, ctladdr= (80/80), > delay=00:00:01, > > xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31238, relay= > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > > [173.194.198.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646505 69si3936877ioe.191 > - > > gsmtp) > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54394]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > > aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > > May 30 16:15:04 webjail sm-mta[54394]: u4UMF4Dq054392: to=< > > admin@securesite.com>,, ctladdr= > (80/80), > > delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=61070, relay= > > aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.70.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464646505 > > f3si40822457ioa.19 - gsmtp) > > > > From what I can see the mail is going out fine but I never receive it. In > > this case it's To: noreensomebody@gmail.com, who is a customer, and > BCC: or > > CC: admin@securesite.com which is my email. > > > > Some details: > > - FreeBSD 10.x with latest patches > > - jail only runs Apache/PHP, sendmail, cron and syslog > > - jail bound to lo1 as 10.0.0.1, no external interfaces > > - Internal Sendmail running as a daemon > > - no sendmail entry in the jail's /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.local > > - mail is not being blocked by the firewall on the host > > - host is running on DigitalOcean's public cloud. I don't know if they do > > any outbound mail filtering to hosted customer services (doubtful) > > > > Any thoughts on how to better diagnose this issue? Should I try to use an > > external SMTP server? Ultimately I need to get the built-in Sendmail > > working reliably however. > > > > If I send mail to one of my own email addresses from the command line, I > do > > get the email. Here's what that log looks like. Maybe I'm missing > something > > obvious in the previous log. > > > > [CODE]May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: u4V0CWsL054911: from=root, > > size=95, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201605310012.u4V0CWsL054911@webjail>, > > relay=root@localhost > > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: STARTTLS=client, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits=256/256 > > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54912]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[10.0.0.1], > > version=TLSv1.2, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, > bits=256/256 > > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54912]: u4V0CXLL054912: from= >, > > size=395, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201605310012.u4V0CWsL054911@webjail > >, > > proto=ESMTPS, daemon=Daemon0, relay=[10.0.0.1] > > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sendmail[54911]: u4V0CWsL054911: to= > > me@mytestsite.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=30095, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, > > stat=Sent (u4V0CXLL054912 Message accepted for delivery) > > May 30 18:12:33 webjail sm-mta[54914]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > > aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1.2, verify=FAIL, > > cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128 > > May 30 18:12:34 webjail sm-mta[54914]: u4V0CXLL054912: to=< > me@mytestsite.com>, > > ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, > > mailer=esmtp, pri=30395, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.193.26], > > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1464653554 i78si28053286ita.45 - gsmtp) > > > > Thanks, > > Kelly > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Could be SPF or spam filtering type of issue? Take a look at the > headers on the mail you do receive. Did you try using telnet / > openssl s_client to send email from the jail? > > An SMTP service might be a good idea, there are many which offer > free/gratis accounts for low/small volumes. > > -- > Waitman Gobble > Los Altos California USA > 510-830-7975 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 06:59:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE037B55FB6 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 06:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922421080 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 06:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp14-2-37-105.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.37.105]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 31 May 2016 16:24:32 +0930 Subject: Re: Creating a BHyve guest To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <574D3526.5030804@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:24:30 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 06:59:44 -0000 On 31/05/2016 04:04, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > I am trying, without much success, to create a FreeBSD guest on a > FreeBSD host, both version 10.3. These are the steps I have followed > thus far (refs.: the Handbook s. 21.7 and the wiki > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Jenkins/VMSetup ). > 5. Once the iso image for the installer is downloaded, in this case to > the /root directory, and its checksum verified then the process of > creating a new FreeBSD VM instance is carried out using the supplied > shell script. > > sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ > -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ > -d /dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img \ > -i -I /root/FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso \ > samba_dc01 > > This all seems to work as documented. I configure the new vm, confirm > my choices and shut down. When I attempt to restart the new system > using either of the following then the attempt fails. > sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ >> -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ >> -d samba_dc01.img \ shouldn't that be -d /dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img unable to find that leads to searching for cd image... >> samba_dc01 > Launching virtual machine "samba_dc01" ... > Installation CDROM image "./release.iso" is not readable -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 07:48:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C0DB55A84 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 07:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE2681A33 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 07:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u4V7Q5Jt044977; Tue, 31 May 2016 09:26:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Creating a BHyve guest To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <3ff07779-8360-51e5-e7df-13ba08631dc2@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 09:26:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 07:48:47 -0000 On 2016-05-30 20:34, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > This all seems to work as documented. I configure the new vm, confirm > my choices and shut down. When I attempt to restart the new system > using either of the following then the attempt fails. > > bhyve -A -H -P -s 0:0,hostbridge \ >> -s 1:0,lpc \ >> -s 2:0,virtio-net,tap0 \ >> -s 3:0,virtio-blk,/dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img \ >> -l com1,stdio -c 2 -m 4096M \ >> samba_dc01 > virtual machine cannot be booted > > or > > sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ >> -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ >> -d samba_dc01.img \ >> samba_dc01 > Launching virtual machine "samba_dc01" ... > Installation CDROM image "./release.iso" is not readable > > > I cannot see any other steps in the documentation that I have read. > What am I missing or what am I doing wrong? > > You need to set the correct iso filename in vmrun.sh. Line 40 DEFAULT_ISOFILE="./release.iso" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 14:04:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF475B54645 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 14:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C6701777 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 14:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u4VE4g5X051861; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:04:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Creating a BHyve guest To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca References: <3ff07779-8360-51e5-e7df-13ba08631dc2@bananmonarki.se> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <7a87e85a-39c0-2596-e733-739a4a58535d@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:04:42 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:04:48 -0000 On 2016-05-31 14:42, James B. Byrne wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016 03:26, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2016-05-30 20:34, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> This all seems to work as documented. I configure the new vm, >>> confirm >>> my choices and shut down. When I attempt to restart the new system >>> using either of the following then the attempt fails. >>> >>> bhyve -A -H -P -s 0:0,hostbridge \ >>>> -s 1:0,lpc \ >>>> -s 2:0,virtio-net,tap0 \ >>>> -s 3:0,virtio-blk,/dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img \ >>>> -l com1,stdio -c 2 -m 4096M \ >>>> samba_dc01 >>> virtual machine cannot be booted >>> >>> or >>> >>> sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ >>>> -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ >>>> -d samba_dc01.img \ >>>> samba_dc01 >>> Launching virtual machine "samba_dc01" ... >>> Installation CDROM image "./release.iso" is not readable >>> >>> >>> I cannot see any other steps in the documentation that I have read. >>> What am I missing or what am I doing wrong? >>> >>> >> You need to set the correct iso filename in vmrun.sh. >> >> Line 40 >> DEFAULT_ISOFILE="./release.iso" >> >> >> > I thought that I had already installed the OS from the iso in step 5. > I am now at the point of rebooting the installed OS. That implies > that the need for a boot CD is no longer present. Why is the CD image > still necessary? And why is this step not documented in the handbook > if it is in fact required? > No idea why you need to set the iso filename. Never used the bihyve program, just took a quick look in that file. 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From: Aleksandr Miroslav To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:37:04 -0000 I'm running nsd for my DNS. My /usr/local/etc/nsd is managed as a git repo. In addition, I have aide running for file integrity detection. Here's the issue I am seeing: Every couple of day, aide tells me that the mtime/ctime on /usr/local/etc/nsd/.git has been updated by a few hours. Nothing else, just the git directory. Nothing inside it is touched, nothing in the nsd directory is touched. I'm pretty sure it is nsd doing this, but I'm not sure why. I'm fairly certain the box has not been hacked, (I think) the box is locked down fairly tightly. How can I verify what is updating the git directory? This box is running 10.3, fwiw. thanks, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 18:30:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A50B5B5C1 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will_squire@hotmail.co.uk) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S24.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s24.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFD541CF2 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 18:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will_squire@hotmail.co.uk) Received: from BLU436-SMTP56 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 31 May 2016 11:29:03 -0700 X-TMN: [6yx04VJFU+sllhYLvlL06EDNT9X8ZSVp] X-Originating-Email: [will_squire@hotmail.co.uk] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Can ipfw be used to limit concurrent requests from an IP? From: Will Squire In-Reply-To: <20160528232515.Y15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:28:59 +0100 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <20160528232515.Y15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: Ian Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2016 18:29:00.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D513470:01D1BB6A] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 18:30:11 -0000 > On 28 May 2016, at 15:27, Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 625, Issue 7, Message: 3 > On Fri, 27 May 2016 20:34:56 +0100 Will Squire = wrote: >=20 > (please wrap lines < 80 columns if possible) Thanks, will do. >=20 >> Can ipfw limit the number requests in a given amount of time from a=20= >> specific IP? >>=20 >> To contextualise, if an IP sends requests in high concurrency (let's=20= >> say 50 a second) can ipfw either block requests the exceed a=20 >> threshold for that second (lets say the threshold is 20, 30 would be=20= >> blocked), or ban/deny the given IP for exceeding a threshold? >=20 > Not as such. If you know the specific IP address (or range, or = subnet)=20 > you can use stateful rules with 'limit' instead of 'keep-state' to = limit=20 > the maximum number of concurrent connections to the port/s configured = in=20 > a given rule; see ipfw(8). You cauld use a table of addresses to = block > or limit rather than hard-coding them into rule/s. Thanks for the reply Ian. I don=E2=80=99t think limit would work due to = HTTP=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Ckeep-alive=E2=80=9D feature. I believe this means a connection = would be kept open=20 (counting as one connection) and still open to heavy polling by the = client. >=20 > While this is very useful for avoiding DoS of any particular service, = it=20 > does not allow you to specify a rate, nor time limit, nor (directly) = to=20 > block an IP address that's exceeding the given number of connections. >=20 >> The aim is to lessen strain under DoS attacks, specifically for HTTP.=20= >> The system is using Apache and mod_evasive has been added and tested,=20= >> but it is not functioning correctly. >=20 > I haven't used (nor heard of) mod_evasive so can't comment on that, = but=20 > limiting the total number of connections open to a given service can=20= > certainly mitigate the effect of such DoS attacks. Again, I think keep-alive might cause issues here (but please do correct = me if=20 wrong). Limiting connection to the HTTP service might also worsen the = DoS to=20 users. >=20 > You could of course use /etc/inetd.conf (aka TCPwrappers) to limit=20 > connections in just the ways you want, though I'm not sure starting = HTTP=20 > connections in that way is recommended these days. I use if for FTP = and=20 > POP3 connections, which works very well, thus: >=20 > sola# grep -v '#' /etc/inetd.conf > ftp stream tcp nowait/7/3 root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -dll = -S > pop3 stream tcp nowait/7/4 root /usr/local/libexec/qpopper = qpopper -s -T 120 >=20 > See inetd(1), particularly re the inetd.conf setting: > = {wait|nowait}[/max-child[/max-connections-per-ip-per-minute[/max-child-per= -ip]]] >=20 > The above example limits pop3 connections to 7 children and 4=20 > connections per IP per minute. Excess connections are logged to=20 > /var/log/messages (and console.log if enabled) thus: >=20 > May 21 12:31:59 sola inetd[9671]: pop3 from 182.118.103.211 exceeded = counts/min (limit 4/min) > May 21 14:21:51 sola inetd[9671]: pop3 from 182.118.99.168 exceeded = counts/min (limit 4/min) > May 21 14:21:52 sola inetd[9671]: pop3 from 182.118.99.168 exceeded = counts/min (limit 4/min) > May 21 14:26:40 sola inetd[9671]: pop3 from 182.117.230.117 exceeded = counts/min (limit 4/min) > May 21 15:34:53 sola inetd[9671]: pop3 from 182.117.207.48 exceeded = counts/min (limit 4/min) > May 21 16:26:56 sola inetd[9671]: pop3 from 182.117.226.184 exceeded = counts/min (limit 4/min) >=20 > You could run a script to tail messages hunting for such lines, then = add=20 > the IP to a table if you want; for example I run a script that = instantly=20 > bans GET requests for certain strings to any of a number of = webservers.=20 > I also tend to check logs and hand-add naughty nets such as the above = to=20 > a block table, never to be seen again .. I=E2=80=99m not familiar with using TCPwrappers, Have seen another = recommend=20 SSHGuard though (which I am using already). Can I do something similar=20= with that, or does/should it do this (add to ban table) automatically? = Unsure=20 if SSHGuard needs any additional rules written for Apache. >=20 > I also use not dissimilar connection limits to sendmail's MTA, but=20 > that's done in sendmail's own configuration. >=20 > Others may know better ways to deal specifically with HTTP = connections? >=20 >> (P.S. The freebsd-ipfw list seems to be for development of the=20 >> technology only, so asking this here. Please let me know if this=20 >> isn?t the case) >=20 > It's usually fairly low volume and noone seems to mind usage = questions,=20 > though the developers usually tend to let these go by. >=20 > cheers, Ian Thanks Kind regards, Will Squire= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 18:42:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECBDB5B2B3 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 18:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C7112C0 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78C562232; Tue, 31 May 2016 08:42:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v7UZ8I_X_jg7; Tue, 31 May 2016 08:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EF2162230; Tue, 31 May 2016 08:42:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1464698562; bh=kdB6pTMYKZ+Jz5hjHp7fPEPoiEiZnBDYwc/angU1QWU=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=OgBUHCF7vdxmTwXfnNFkkrT1GKAGHYyX6SrQo0GsfW7xgMUxMBnpRzbZ7teYpapae vmW7uYCr2WxxsvcXqXzXugNaHVNRbIU68MRT3TXxn8KKmgD6vGyL0suiPDEZ0je8ln rGSxeruyqlF2mrJ4e8XmKLnX7I88hHAnAu4YhriKeNh4ee89LLka5eIZ/AOUKprHWP P+N6sKgiRvjODJHWWqlwEkEpZb82g6MeniGNqahP09M1rcydgC4VtY5enBxUWoRnwU R8n+eaJWrngIGzcBuJqa+VBYR0nXzBfwFX6iB535r8DHuW0qa5FxwQTcQOGXaIK80e Tg/pnAUeEz2hA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2016 08:42:42 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3ff07779-8360-51e5-e7df-13ba08631dc2@bananmonarki.se> References: <3ff07779-8360-51e5-e7df-13ba08631dc2@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 08:42:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Creating a BHyve guest From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Bernt Hansson" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 18:42:13 -0000 On Tue, May 31, 2016 03:26, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-05-30 20:34, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> This all seems to work as documented. I configure the new vm, >> confirm >> my choices and shut down. When I attempt to restart the new system >> using either of the following then the attempt fails. >> >> bhyve -A -H -P -s 0:0,hostbridge \ >>> -s 1:0,lpc \ >>> -s 2:0,virtio-net,tap0 \ >>> -s 3:0,virtio-blk,/dev/zvol/zroot/vm/samba_dc01.img \ >>> -l com1,stdio -c 2 -m 4096M \ >>> samba_dc01 >> virtual machine cannot be booted >> >> or >> >> sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh \ >>> -c 2 -m 4096M -t tap0 \ >>> -d samba_dc01.img \ >>> samba_dc01 >> Launching virtual machine "samba_dc01" ... >> Installation CDROM image "./release.iso" is not readable >> >> >> I cannot see any other steps in the documentation that I have read. >> What am I missing or what am I doing wrong? >> >> > You need to set the correct iso filename in vmrun.sh. > > Line 40 > DEFAULT_ISOFILE="./release.iso" > > > I thought that I had already installed the OS from the iso in step 5. I am now at the point of rebooting the installed OS. That implies that the need for a boot CD is no longer present. Why is the CD image still necessary? And why is this step not documented in the handbook if it is in fact required? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 19:31:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EB0B5B247 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 19:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will_squire@hotmail.co.uk) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S37.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s37.hotmail.com [65.55.111.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5AF51FAF for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 19:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will_squire@hotmail.co.uk) Received: from BLU436-SMTP260 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S37.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 31 May 2016 12:30:21 -0700 X-TMN: [LaglPlTTS8kfNssK8yRHSwIY1J6xV1z5] X-Originating-Email: [will_squire@hotmail.co.uk] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Can ipfw be used to limit concurrent requests from an IP? From: Will Squire In-Reply-To: <574AEC8B.5080701@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:30:15 +0100 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <574AEC8B.5080701@ShaneWare.Biz> To: Shane Ambler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2016 19:30:18.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD633FB0:01D1BB72] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:31:29 -0000 > On 29 May 2016, at 14:20, Shane Ambler wrote: >=20 > On 28/05/2016 05:04, Will Squire wrote: >> Can ipfw limit the number requests in a given amount of time from a >> specific IP? >>=20 >> To contextualise, if an IP sends requests in high concurrency (let's >> say 50 a second) can ipfw either block requests the exceed a >> threshold for that second (lets say the threshold is 20, 30 would be >> blocked), or ban/deny the given IP for exceeding a threshold? >>=20 >> The aim is to lessen strain under DoS attacks, specifically for HTTP. >> The system is using Apache and mod_evasive has been added and tested, >> but it is not functioning correctly. >>=20 >> (P.S. The freebsd-ipfw list seems to be for development of the >> technology only, so asking this here. Please let me know if this >> isn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t the case) >=20 > You might want to look at sshguard >=20 > http://www.freshports.org/security/sshguard-ipfw/ >=20 > http://www.sshguard.net/ Thanks Shane. Do you have any examples of how to implement=20 this with Apache? Already have SSHGuard installed, so would be ideal if I can extend the functionality to the Apache service. Did a bit of googling on this before, but didn't find any=20 standard instructions (simple ones for simple minds) between=20 different sources and think perhaps I=E2=80=99ve missed something? I = didn=E2=80=99t=20 add the rule `ipfw add deny all from 'table(22)' to any` that the=20 port=E2=80=99s description specified because I read somewhere else=20 it wasn=E2=80=99t necessary=E2=80=A6 And it also differed to this example documentation for ipfw (which I=20 found confusing): http://www.sshguard.net/docs/setup/ = So, I=E2=80=99m thinking I either need to add the following to = `/etc/rc.conf`: = `sshguard_watch_logs=3D=E2=80=9C/var/log/auth.log:/var/log/maillog:/var/lo= g/httpd-access.log=E2=80=9D` to get SSHGuard to poll the Apache log file, or I can pipe the=20 Apache logs directly into SSHGaurd like the syslogd example=20 (but I=E2=80=99m not sure how to do this one, or which one is best)? And = do=20 I need to go back and setup some ipfw rules for SSHGuard to=20 work properly? Thank you >=20 > --=20 > FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing >=20 > Shane Ambler > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D Kind regards, Will Squire From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 21:12:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08658B5B39B for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 21:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08511437 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 21:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 54391CB8CAB; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:12:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:12:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <22569.128.135.52.6.1464729151.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:12:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives problem From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:12:38 -0000 Dear All, Does anybody have LSI MegaRAID (Avago, not LSI, I should have said) with 8TB 4kn drives working on the machine running FreeBSD? If yes, how did you install system on that machine? My problem is: when I boot from FreeBSD DVD the machine that has LSI MegaRAID card (MegaRAID SAS 9271-8i) with 8TB 4Kn (HGST He) the boot sequence gets stuck after launching CPUs loading USB (and discovering keyboard/mouse). After that the machine doesn't respond to keystrokes and keeps printing messages: mfi0: COMMAND oxfffffe0000e56cc0 TIMEOUT AFTER 56 SECONDS (and it keeps printing these lines with increasing numbers of seconds). This sounds like it is getting stuck when loading mfi driver for LSI controller. I flashed the latest firmware one cane get from AvagoTech website for this controller. This sounds similar to the known bug in mfi kernel module that was fixed in FreeBSD 9.1. Still, if I try to boot DVD with latest FreeBSD 10.3, or older: 10.1, 9.3, I have this problem. If I disconnect all drives, or connect older smaller drives with 512 byte block size, all goes well, and I am able to boot the machine from FreeBSD installation DVD. Also, I can boot Linux from DVD without problem with 4Kn drives attached, but you can imagine I will not be happy to have to install Linux instead of FreeBSD. Does anybody have LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives working on the machine running FreeBSD? Any advises what else I could try before submit bug report? Thanks a lot for all your answers! Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 31 22:00:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1280B561DE for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 22:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22c.google.com (mail-yw0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20441C4C for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 22:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id o16so1098909ywd.2 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 15:00:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=5eEeYaQHHzdnEh2yBLb9cmtTrO6FBySjCz8m/uDCcDY=; b=dSMGIRHeh/G/qx5YGA8cSZYZl9H7aR3yYzyhMEU/7gw/dcRjjKNROd2g2BozbnYUxl 9tNzbJxJaGK0xhi8F+IibayM9MAmY2sI3jFN8Vdow7Tx1XDUsIm6OlBnW42ns/V0zt4W HxKunWQT9AvNYISALlSvAITZXDjwQBGafZ2mO6tA2xMxQGGoJJLUiTkIo/lym8KVto06 6VNTDksqAkyudJVs5dCEsABosNbgDkYuFI2v/JPS6Z7WNjXT3Zi+zCGdscF1HkOsxL2N YIH5MU7v1u1w9B6khsh6SUanjfmCtR0NWArM5tTp0Qy6iTSzw4zdyje/Bm18723RZ/kA CGAw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=5eEeYaQHHzdnEh2yBLb9cmtTrO6FBySjCz8m/uDCcDY=; b=jYmxQKpQPmLUo1lgRpl7ykPO2ejyJoWQdwDf0UxS2YgzvyrOiVIbZf9TYL973a/nan MrKTaL5UzI+DDSFCd1D990DyJ2mtNW+t+6VyHymYph6wzfGWOCn49cnumjlPtqTLivOx LRuWFrqvavO3k0cvdnrn13NfCyHumQhk/yMNwE176bIoAII22MOOTFK8SwM7Zfu0LMnz KjBnUythdXAJRMpbFy/TDYnci/PhkkBQxGVnq/Ku2B5WTkGT24mv9t+LsheE529esIUf vh5kXOgACYZ+1wIEIqxd72yuqaAd/4uxOv2oa/NBKCIiH83X75grozvRVpNIQpZKCpwr raVw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLDZ6fSPH+u6BEUX8cbLBRMuPBD618WhXwX+4lmVFV7W58SwIcFNcyllpbkekYBiTwUberTuk/aD015iG23 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.73.208 with SMTP id w199mr254587ywa.176.1464732032704; Tue, 31 May 2016 15:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.217.132 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2016 15:00:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:00:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can ipfw be used to limit concurrent requests from an IP? From: Michael Sierchio To: Will Squire Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:00:34 -0000 You can use dummynet pipes (and optionally queues) with a mask for this. You can specify queue size in slots. You can also make use of red/gred (see the manpage). I might choose a larger mask than 0xffffffff because a new pipe will be instantiated for each matching address. a very simple example ipfw pipe 1 config bw 800Byte/s mask src-ip 0xffffc000 ipfw add pipe 1 tcp from any to me ssh in recv $OIF setup - M On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Will Squire wrote: > > Can ipfw limit the number requests in a given amount of time from a specific IP? > > To contextualise, if an IP sends requests in high concurrency (let's say 50 a second) can ipfw either block requests the exceed a threshold for that second (lets say the threshold is 20, 30 would be blocked), or ban/deny the given IP for exceeding a threshold? > > The aim is to lessen strain under DoS attacks, specifically for HTTP. The system is using Apache and mod_evasive has been added and tested, but it is not functioning correctly. > > (P.S. The freebsd-ipfw list seems to be for development of the technology only, so asking this here. Please let me know if this isn=E2=80=99t the cas= e) > > > Thanks > > Kind regards, > > Will Squire > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 08:35:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EE2B554EB for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8AC6197D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x233.google.com with SMTP id w184so16767552oiw.2 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 01:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=bDLnLePs9nnBzc6bMzyuLNbhjxmDnufpvLt2i9fT+xg=; b=Nqq7NkHnJ0o5dl+YJRe/RqndsLKKXOUBxz2dmTVo/qbcOlXUxsnc8SXq4hanN3WD5d Gk6YARAxmynNigUm3wida2XvOprVdZbbVEVWkmRM6KK5i/OOUx3JUXbwdAlkRvC0ds5R 654fvNLgIeEYd5siqDi/ElFWKYxAOoNyovUY5lU/oMgKUUoxiD6UMTBBSi33MNdTGkXh BDwQBL3LBYE0AFW6JisiprFww7wyJVW1yJirwcW4S69wtMippD4/4ChvSr7WWK64RB4M bIn+0bqDXHDSyePiIa4cbsLxG0uoGWJiPH+JpMbQtBpITOeDUbCb6f+38FUf569BPT3D MTqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to; bh=bDLnLePs9nnBzc6bMzyuLNbhjxmDnufpvLt2i9fT+xg=; b=ghiAHNYoxt4gbvEHejiC90M/32HCjOVfVqQLiA8yISURGa4LukRqDGhmeiSWHkSgKh 7ylGbpCaYC1aA3Y6aS+pq0mmWAb4IgldcxBeNqCFhfwc3pqE77ax94DdatbFYXcX7QO4 2J2vVmzAIb01VN/8WmFJegfXzatfvAhqY+eW6W8uJEXidn75NBXX8J/WelXvvAJTfTHU Hu1FTa6g9qC+cvDa03NdxwMDW3C8zRYiJ1mZ3TgC6cZEMPajlJFFXjEwkebTWNTzqols ZbDtnkTSFUgVN3fzEti8WG3I4d0Z0U68ZvO7w/w2QbwYxqUJm/9jHJ6aVq47DcC8nmBB 5Wsg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKmg1BK8oVRcCtzYEZN9aRXrl9cTSHlKe50amPoULyvAJ3h04MqsX0p1LbKt1LHn7CrzgCNjWJbFschaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.212.86 with SMTP id l83mr20022888oig.190.1464770106089; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 01:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.157.2.67 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 01:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:35:06 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: E2KRrfVubfMe8k0jmPv_LlAs7UY Message-ID: Subject: rsync or git backups? From: Luca Ferrari To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 08:35:07 -0000 Hi all, so far I'm using rsync to keep in sync a couple of removable media (well, up to four) where one is the "master" and the others are a cascade backups (meaning they are set at different time). So far so good. One problem is that I tend to change things in the master, e.g., bulk file renaming or moving, so when I replicate it on the backups I have to force the deletion of no more existing content. This approach, however, relies on the fact that the master is good. My fear is that if the master corrupts some file, I could possibly loss them if they have also been moved since I will no more be able to recognize them on the slaves. So I would like to have some feature like git (or fossil) for hash handling, but since I'm talking about 290+ GB of binaries I'm not sure this approach could work. Any suggestion? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 10:13:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF49B585EC for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.lindberg@wooga.net) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 393D0104E for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.lindberg@wooga.net) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id z87so27403494wmh.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 03:13:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wooga-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=1MDwVFfd6Bu7SmcyRJq5/mrUgZVADpQdaa2iJs/IGKw=; b=WzvUgc6nwJpVtu3LDIM51+1fBtnDVBO8+IMULV84AtK5eEe2Dde9BAvMg70+5iDlzh GYYf7XCO2XVZz/PN4bYsZeaHkjUxIZDJcpznOiDAyPK/unCZJXCxn9CsAuWPwbYqL0tK VVveTTXerkUkxegHJ8bBpjVobE5ptAd7jTk+PVVw9MBLqYIB34D/yKltKIVVWRxxfbIP atjFazmQt/wsE2Aeba2zL1565Z5gHd4CKG2MKG8qvReBLPYzWa4brIrQTZVcSsBGMcpj motsM12pe5HQeZ2aWqz2jbu+qU2ngvw/ugAx+ySzfo5VplmEAmrlzw4QmqIobf/QLUWj R7eQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=1MDwVFfd6Bu7SmcyRJq5/mrUgZVADpQdaa2iJs/IGKw=; b=OEbg1OcOjo1oJTU550WfVHVlo0HvwxTKLGt6+n3cfhwdO6cfLREoNAKkBqBKwifDBV 2piw317AJlNk88p57qRnMFU8Hi2c36Oky/aAOz0t9oL7lWRhhiFO4yaeVjmfnFmZU1vK LIyXzqRljhlEeNGo2qu1N/EKbnAdJzIj/lQbYL+zYk83sQYoL6ZnHoYUTMLhSoNxXCUd +ii2RfcwsuWhQ2y4T9jRs4bB6YJYhpnUZ4RtNF9HnQRtrpRF4gb3Rp3B3LwOVzwlzx7E wProS0xj9+GKWXGbfIgoxSY2MKrZKZ6MKwfCdc58k3GGYyays+Y2n2SsJawYa5r0I3go +mtw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKXOZH4tN+UlcVhTRMMr8tnfAfRCcodeQbNg0uLPkQZCOIB1OTOktsnBWvrU2bCFcwW X-Received: by 10.194.162.228 with SMTP id yd4mr2799739wjb.26.1464776009590; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 03:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [185.74.12.147] ([185.74.12.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v125sm21644891wmv.17.2016.06.01.03.13.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 03:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Pidfile generated by /usr/sbin/daemon not usable by rc.d script From: Adam Lindberg In-Reply-To: <20160526193917.C15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:13:27 +0200 Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6ECB89F6-4410-47D2-AA9B-1EA63B334CF0@wooga.net> References: <20160526193917.C15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: Ian Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:13:31 -0000 Sorry for the late reply. What we observed was that the `read _pid _junk < $_pidfile` line did = indeed work on the command line, after sourcing /etc/rc.subr. For some = strange reason it seems not to work from inside the service script for = us. Cheers, Adam -- Adam Lindberg | Backend Engineer Wooga GmbH | Saarbr=C3=BCcker Str. 38 | D-10405 Berlin Place of business: Berlin Registered at the local court Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 117846 B Managing Directors: Jens Begemann, Philipp M=C3=B6ser, Jan Miczaika > On 26 May 2016, at 12:10 , Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 625, Issue 4, Message: 19 > On Wed, 25 May 2016 20:26:56 +0100 RW = wrote: >> On Wed, 25 May 2016 17:12:36 +0200 >> Adam Lindberg wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> I don?t know what powerd is and how it factors into this. :-) >>=20 >> It's an example of a daemon that generates a pid file without a >> newline, and yet "stop" and "status" work. >>=20 >> It turns out that /etc/rc.d/powerd doesn't define pidfile, in which >> case rc.subr finds the pid from the output of ps. So it's not a >> counter-example and it does appear to be a bug that rc.subr can't = cope >> with a pid file without a newline. >>=20 >> You could use the same method, but using sed seems safer. >=20 > Just as another data point, from a 9.3 system (if relevant), where the=20= > majority of pidfiles have no trailing newline; no obvious consistency: >=20 > root@x200:~ # sh -c 'for i in /var/run/*.pid ; do echo $i; hd $i; = done' > /var/run/consolekit.pid > 00000000 39 31 31 0a |911.| > 00000004 > /var/run/cron.pid > 00000000 38 35 31 |851| > 00000003 > /var/run/devd.pid > 00000000 34 32 37 |427| > 00000003 > /var/run/dhclient.em0.pid > 00000000 33 34 38 |348| > 00000003 > /var/run/moused.pid > 00000000 37 31 39 |719| > 00000003 > /var/run/ntpd.pid > 00000000 36 39 32 |692| > 00000003 > /var/run/powerd.pid > 00000000 36 39 35 |695| > 00000003 > /var/run/sendmail.pid > 00000000 38 32 34 0a 2f 75 73 72 2f 73 62 69 6e 2f 73 65 = |824./usr/sbin/se| > 00000010 6e 64 6d 61 69 6c 20 2d 4c 20 73 6d 2d 6d 74 61 |ndmail -L = sm-mta| > 00000020 20 2d 62 64 20 2d 71 33 30 6d 20 2d 4f 44 61 65 | -bd = -q30m -ODae| > 00000030 6d 6f 6e 50 6f 72 74 4f 70 74 69 6f 6e 73 3d 41 = |monPortOptions=3DA| > 00000040 64 64 72 3d 6c 6f 63 61 6c 68 6f 73 74 0a = |ddr=3Dlocalhost.| > 0000004e > /var/run/sshd.pid > 00000000 38 30 31 0a |801.| > 00000004 > /var/run/syslog.pid > 00000000 35 39 30 |590| > 00000003 >=20 > check_pidfile in /etc/rc.subr (at 9.3 and in head I see) uses: > read _pid _junk < $_pidfile > which extracts pids ok with or without the newline. Don't suppose the=20= > behaviour of read in sh(1) might have changed in terms of separating=20= > words or in whitespace reckoning? Otherwise this is rather = mysterious. >=20 > cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 10:39:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407A8B58DF5 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17AD1FDD for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:33:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b83T0-0004Q2-3J; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:33:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:33:32 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Luca Ferrari Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Message-Id: <20160601113332.5e250d300d770ab04e9c9cc2@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:39:06 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:35:06 +0200 Luca Ferrari wrote: > Hi all, > so far I'm using rsync to keep in sync a couple of removable media > (well, up to four) where one is the "master" and the others are a > cascade backups (meaning they are set at different time). > So far so good. > One problem is that I tend to change things in the master, e.g., bulk > file renaming or moving, so when I replicate it on the backups I have > to force the deletion of no more existing content. > This approach, however, relies on the fact that the master is good. My > fear is that if the master corrupts some file, I could possibly loss > them if they have also been moved since I will no more be able to > recognize them on the slaves. > > So I would like to have some feature like git (or fossil) for hash > handling, but since I'm talking about 290+ GB of binaries I'm not sure > this approach could work. > > Any suggestion? Use ZFS with snapshots (the zfs-periodic package is good for this) and replace the rsync with send/receive, ZFS will protect you from hardware silent corruption (provided you allow some redundancy - use copies on pools with no redundancy) while the snapshots will protect you from mistakes. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 10:56:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505F9B5F3F9 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCD561953 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u51Atpm4074376 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:55:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Bernt Hansson Subject: Striped mirror raid10 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:55:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:56:04 -0000 Hello list! I have set up a striped mirror; root@testbox:~ # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gmirror0 COMPLETE ada0 (ACTIVE) ada1 (ACTIVE) mirror/gmirror1 COMPLETE ada2 (ACTIVE) ada3 (ACTIVE) root@testbox:~ # gstripe status Name Status Components stripe/stripe0 UP mirror/gmirror0 mirror/gmirror1 /dev/stripe/stripe0 1.8T 4.0K 1.8T 0% /raid10 Now I want to encrypt it, but is that wise? I mean you can remove a disk from the mirror, won't that break the encryption? And the mirror/stripe. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 11:00:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2897BB5F585 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9646A1AE4 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u51B0W47074614 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:00:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Bernt Hansson Subject: Striped mirror raid10 Message-ID: <9e77a8d8-7eae-72f6-dd59-db40ebb01a6b@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:00:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:00:36 -0000 Reply to me and not the list only, since freebsds mailserver is blacklisted. http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 12:58:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C8EB607AE for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E5771DAA for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u51CwSXx001430; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:58:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:58:28 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Adam Lindberg cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pidfile generated by /usr/sbin/daemon not usable by rc.d script In-Reply-To: <6ECB89F6-4410-47D2-AA9B-1EA63B334CF0@wooga.net> Message-ID: <20160601222416.Q15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160526193917.C15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <6ECB89F6-4410-47D2-AA9B-1EA63B334CF0@wooga.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 12:58:42 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:13:27 +0200, Adam Lindberg wrote: > Sorry for the late reply. > > What we observed was that the `read _pid _junk < $_pidfile` line did > indeed work on the command line, after sourcing /etc/rc.subr. For > some strange reason it seems not to work from inside the service > script for us. I just had another look at your foo.rcscript attachment, and bounced through all in {/usr/local,}/etc/rc.d for examples. As RW said earlier, 'command=yes' appears unlike all the others, in that it does not provide the full pathname of the executable. I don't know if that matters here. Also, none of the others (here) need daemon(8) to run, in background or otherwise .. are you sure that you require its functionality for 'foo'? For one thing, it seems that daemon keeps the -p pidfile locked during execution of the process; might that affect service status, stop, etc? Otherwise I have no idea; a PR may indeed be worthwhile pursuing. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 13:29:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03CBB60218 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.esson@redstor.com) Received: from emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db3on0090.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.55.234.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 726941141 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.esson@redstor.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redstorltd.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-redstor-com; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=rDeAOKbxqEwVc3NlFFGargNspbF8yXCydhS7Ft1oiVw=; b=egt8fIpcIvarnGlZ2N9mE8OBqdF3A8KzDGu4wOGAJFlIB8LqO1COQq7cLYDY/+cnS+pOXRpP3UOYg8FRtpzXzwxJBIl3r+vdldoIkT4Hds3ycX3lbaORfmzddZmXp7IZgHYHre+ye2XvYF/xYsd9XVi8IIdJ6CAJ9xv91q8RW90= Received: from VI1PR01MB1439.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.163.243.149) by VI1PR01MB1438.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.163.243.148) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.506.9; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:14:03 +0000 Received: from VI1PR01MB1439.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.163.243.149]) by VI1PR01MB1439.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.163.243.149]) with mapi id 15.01.0506.013; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:14:03 +0000 From: Paul Esson To: "galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives problem Thread-Topic: LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives problem Thread-Index: AQHRu/02GSr+OvhLL0GXwrCzkjYYeJ/UlFhA Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:14:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <22569.128.135.52.6.1464729151.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <22569.128.135.52.6.1464729151.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: kicp.uchicago.edu; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;kicp.uchicago.edu; dmarc=none action=none header.from=redstor.com; x-originating-ip: [86.146.12.75] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 088895a8-6ca9-42df-5c0e-08d38a1e9a56 x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; VI1PR01MB1438; 5:y/XE/m8C2gaYB+RHstCeoTTWRO7a/6kIe3hnfxo1idJJjDR7MiQ8h/leMSOTlmBt35XJ0ZQS4QOmr6K/oyCQIcUMeCCME2i8JUpELYCuoecx5lVDG8nmtDnxXfJu+JiaF1YbI+ar9D2gNyCkaxKBxg==; 24:stHjIs6SLmjnrqzTe0e0r/xGtcS/I/4hi9boNRw7zHzDz/RAp+2g6OaquNGjVo3CvDWicSwyo6XcBwfpThC6NT0c0kSJ2s/ymGd6EqVTb2w=; 7:RioVhQFHuxaQj+hsh6RlrjJ9dfR847DSmTBamPZPYp96ZwZytDF6IVZS15u15mDntTK9IyWdsvuMlTWNjyzGWGdd7+SOUcDxb0B7f5wB4TQkX0MzsKSsGJmkc4QEB5GBD7hYHj6kb4QwqkUVbc1GNQHb4F1ScRBVi3j0QY6OXkqxkD2sSAPKKvSw4nhth/nr x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:VI1PR01MB1438; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(21532816269658); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040130)(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046)(6041072)(6043046); SRVR:VI1PR01MB1438; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:VI1PR01MB1438; x-forefront-prvs: 096029FF66 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(13464003)(3846002)(6116002)(102836003)(586003)(33656002)(2906002)(5001770100001)(10400500002)(5003600100002)(54356999)(106116001)(107886002)(5002640100001)(189998001)(76176999)(86362001)(50986999)(81166006)(8676002)(74316001)(87936001)(5008740100001)(572594003)(2171001)(9686002)(2900100001)(5004730100002)(66066001)(2950100001)(8936002)(5890100001)(11100500001)(122556002)(2501003)(19580395003)(92566002)(3280700002)(19580405001)(15974865002)(77096005)(3660700001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:VI1PR01MB1438; H:VI1PR01MB1439.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: redstor.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 01 Jun 2016 13:14:02.9093 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 24ac53ae-15a7-4211-afef-61d8f34e2571 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR01MB1438 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:29:31 -0000 Hi Valeri, I had similar issue with Dell PERC 730 which is OEM of LSI card and 6TB 4Kn= drives. In my case I had to force the use of the MRSAS driver over MFI in= itially by exiting the boot sequence to loader prompt and typing: set hw.mfi.mrsas_enable=3D1 Thereafter I added the line " hw.mfi.mrsas_enable=3D1" to /boot/loader.conf= " after I had installed the OS. Regards,=20 Paul Esson=A0=A0|=A0=A0Redstor Limited t=A0=A0+44 (0)118 951 5235=A0=A0|=A0=A0=A0m=A0=A0+44 (0)776 690 6514 e=A0=A0paul.esson@redstor.com www.redstor.com -----Original Message----- From: Valeri Galtsev [mailto:galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu]=20 Sent: 31 May 2016 22:13 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives problem Dear All, Does anybody have LSI MegaRAID (Avago, not LSI, I should have said) with 8T= B 4kn drives working on the machine running FreeBSD? If yes, how did you in= stall system on that machine? My problem is: when I boot from FreeBSD DVD the machine that has LSI MegaRA= ID card (MegaRAID SAS 9271-8i) with 8TB 4Kn (HGST He) the boot sequence get= s stuck after launching CPUs loading USB (and discovering keyboard/mouse). = After that the machine doesn't respond to keystrokes and keeps printing mes= sages: mfi0: COMMAND oxfffffe0000e56cc0 TIMEOUT AFTER 56 SECONDS (and it keeps printing these lines with increasing numbers of seconds). This sounds like it is getting stuck when loading mfi driver for LSI contro= ller. I flashed the latest firmware one cane get from AvagoTech website for= this controller. This sounds similar to the known bug in mfi kernel module= that was fixed in FreeBSD 9.1. Still, if I try to boot DVD with latest Fre= eBSD 10.3, or older: 10.1, 9.3, I have this problem. If I disconnect all dr= ives, or connect older smaller drives with 512 byte block size, all goes we= ll, and I am able to boot the machine from FreeBSD installation DVD. Also, = I can boot Linux from DVD without problem with 4Kn drives attached, but you= can imagine I will not be happy to have to install Linux instead of FreeBS= D. Does anybody have LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives working on the machine r= unning FreeBSD? Any advises what else I could try before submit bug report? Thanks a lot for all your answers! Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological P= hysics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 14:08:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3816EB4F03E for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D32C11C82 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id z87so31231248wmh.0 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 07:08:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YHFDbZVNn8j+bWjAlMzBIXzeD3L4uHuPTPLyqrGZaHg=; b=wqm+GPdeUG+pXws5FdQ5mbN/IWcsZZgW+piVyz5e/IbXhNM1qYjUhmWQckJW4gt/rU mRvhtvymisKL0Kx29V1qzWH8AJkvGPtoJyDm4C5kpb53ZbI6F28OpeAc/hEbJ1f3pVYf ugIXm7XaRC2hq9omHpZCspH6nz1O8EUHVew2bNQpBjGf5+tGD+RZDtlSwYcsGi4LGVHv kY5sElECcRPYy0arJe7H1v++1JiAiEjWBgRd/MaTv84VMpoAmoNQAKxdKomrISue/uPI NNSwJkXhR6uvY4LexW9StsxnQX2yBYeQgG62hDZQ2bSlUod7Rwra06FqOz4ewqOXMd2T hTaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YHFDbZVNn8j+bWjAlMzBIXzeD3L4uHuPTPLyqrGZaHg=; b=GpqD5vKsNbwt3hehWO2t+MTyGLzyXc5LTWBts42KyZxd2k5PqJBL1QaXhHZaJ+6qtl Iaw3VYEQWzq9s7anGA6MjzKaVoBbyraryBHOu3rOMJypc7dOdbZJfYFMDt9pZBuCd4yw 26elj6SE+uTFIKhONmwH4/m7u+KX457ePJD822MTrhEU9rir2sqZ5A9wWNya5aapX8p4 5X73KcvY304ZK1YbO6rbTL25euizHo6lo8Cgavf4L5phaOCf5jykgyH+l73ZugE6VTHB ZFsgfGH6xrIsidG5wPxw4z8BYBGb6PG6cmWgIfxA6D5QxC3LVW2SKbVvSZ7uarLAgv5Y SIGw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK/dm7KBkoPZ8+sUmdy6Xc8SiCd6iJMpEPPlxPMFiJVH1v9M2+szYTLpQ9/BOKv+w== X-Received: by 10.28.54.204 with SMTP id y73mr20624829wmh.59.1464790102403; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.222.27.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c185sm35380487wme.9.2016.06.01.07.08.20 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:08:19 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pidfile generated by /usr/sbin/daemon not usable by rc.d script Message-ID: <20160601150819.42657954@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20160601222416.Q15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160526193917.C15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <6ECB89F6-4410-47D2-AA9B-1EA63B334CF0@wooga.net> <20160601222416.Q15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:08:24 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:58:28 +1000 (EST) Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:13:27 +0200, Adam Lindberg wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply. > > > > What we observed was that the `read _pid _junk < $_pidfile` line > > did indeed work on the command line, after sourcing /etc/rc.subr. > > For some strange reason it seems not to work from inside the > > service script for us. > > I just had another look at your foo.rcscript attachment, and bounced > through all in {/usr/local,}/etc/rc.d for examples. As RW said > earlier, 'command=yes' appears unlike all the others, in that it does > not provide the full pathname of the executable. I don't know if > that matters here. I did misunderstand that. When I saw 'command=yes' it looked like the OP was trying to treat command as a flag. > Also, none of the others (here) need daemon(8) to run, in background > or otherwise .. are you sure that you require its functionality for > 'foo'? Most daemons were written as such. daemon(8) is there for those that weren't or were written in a scripting language that doesn't support the double fork. > For one thing, it seems that daemon keeps the -p pidfile locked > during execution of the process; might that affect service status, > stop, etc? I think the problem is pretty straightforward. If you run this read _pid _junk < $_pidfile and $_pidfile doesn't end in a newline, read will wait for one, just as it would if you typed in a line and didn't hit return. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 15:00:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB255B60836 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F784182E for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir [173.14.229.218]) by aegir.dabus.com (Processor) with ESMTP id 4FC897387F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:52:49 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=aegir1; d=dabus.com; h=Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Organization:X-Mailer:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bo77eaa7Py6xgCO+WeZwcMgiW0QeB5qoHpuedA+MuB7VmBDe2VB/uLuG9i5EhDXAxmsMNEfigNb5st7J9QUt791nTS9PdnMGPs0cM6P6yARjQ8DM3jydGYSooaGFhfpnz+Rg59Sow3tiUnmNlNM3gOBDu4sa9+CpJfpxMA1jOuk=; Received: from nunki.holyordnance.org (unknown [172.56.17.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aegir.dabus.com (Dabus) with ESMTPSA id E022B7387E for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:52:43 -0600 From: Eric S Pulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slightly OT hardware question Message-ID: <20160601085243.6c15201e@nunki.holyordnance.org> In-Reply-To: References: <9971febb-334b-8cb6-170a-6f28d81b4ba9@hiwaay.net> <45833.128.135.52.6.1464193655.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Organization: Dabus X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:00:37 -0000 On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:48 -0453.75 "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > On 05/25/16 11:33, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 10:51 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 > >> or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD > >> compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk > >> box. I found Utilite, kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, > >> however apparently wired somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD > >> networking doesn't work there last I looked). Anyone got a little > >> beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one. > >> > > I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption > > computer lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I > > ruled out for myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet > > adapter on it will be USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent > > firewall/router with decent throughput. I took a quick look at > > Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice not that I've heard bout it > > from you), and I have the same reservations about it. > > > > What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to > > bay RAM and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I > > definitely will get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of > > $300 as opposed to $40 for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but > > with fitlet-i I will have two gige ports, and enough CPU power to > > have it handling decent traffic. (Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up > > to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least by Israeli company; 5 > > years warranty, available on amazon, power consumption up to 10 W). > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > > Valeri > > > > PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is > > better option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN. > > > >> -- > >> > >> William A. Mahaffey III If you are getting into $280+ USD range you may aswell look at Soekris Engineering. Makers of fine BSD small SBC/routers for many years... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 15:44:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CEFB61AC2 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6739F1259 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u51Fiomj006086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:44:51 -0500 Subject: Re: slightly OT hardware question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9971febb-334b-8cb6-170a-6f28d81b4ba9@hiwaay.net> <45833.128.135.52.6.1464193655.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160601085243.6c15201e@nunki.holyordnance.org> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:50:20 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160601085243.6c15201e@nunki.holyordnance.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:44:59 -0000 On 06/01/16 09:58, Eric S Pulley wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:48 -0453.75 > "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > >> On 05/25/16 11:33, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 10:51 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 >>>> or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD >>>> compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk >>>> box. I found Utilite, kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, >>>> however apparently wired somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD >>>> networking doesn't work there last I looked). Anyone got a little >>>> beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one. >>>> >>> I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption >>> computer lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I >>> ruled out for myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet >>> adapter on it will be USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent >>> firewall/router with decent throughput. I took a quick look at >>> Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice not that I've heard bout it >>> from you), and I have the same reservations about it. >>> >>> What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to >>> bay RAM and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I >>> definitely will get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of >>> $300 as opposed to $40 for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but >>> with fitlet-i I will have two gige ports, and enough CPU power to >>> have it handling decent traffic. (Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up >>> to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least by Israeli company; 5 >>> years warranty, available on amazon, power consumption up to 10 W). >>> >>> Just my $0.02 >>> >>> Valeri >>> >>> PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is >>> better option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN. >>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> William A. Mahaffey III > If you are getting into $280+ USD range you may aswell look at Soekris > Engineering. Makers of fine BSD small SBC/routers for many years... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Found them earlier, looked like more $$$$ than I wanted to commit, but also looked like top-shelf equipment, already had/has FreeBSD 9.nR compatibility. I might be back .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 16:20:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF02B6172E for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9F1E11E0 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u51GKmEv009209; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:20:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:20:48 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Will Squire cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can ipfw be used to limit concurrent requests from an IP? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160601234946.C15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160528232515.Y15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:20:53 -0000 On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:28:59 +0100, Will Squire wrote: > > On 28 May 2016, at 15:27, Ian Smith wrote: [..] > >> Can ipfw limit the number requests in a given amount of time from a > >> specific IP? > >> > >> To contextualise, if an IP sends requests in high concurrency (let's > >> say 50 a second) can ipfw either block requests the exceed a > >> threshold for that second (lets say the threshold is 20, 30 would be > >> blocked), or ban/deny the given IP for exceeding a threshold? > > you can use stateful rules with 'limit' instead of 'keep-state' to limit > Thanks for the reply Ian. I donÿÿt think limit would work due to HTTPÿÿs > ÿÿkeep-aliveÿÿ feature. I believe this means a connection would be kept open > (counting as one connection) and still open to heavy polling by the client. That's probably right, and your desire to define connection rate limits rates should have steered me away from suggesting 'limit'. inetd.conf is careful not to mention http, so that was a dumb sugdestion too :( > >> The aim is to lessen strain under DoS attacks, specifically for HTTP. > >> The system is using Apache and mod_evasive has been added and tested, > >> but it is not functioning correctly. >From what I've just dug up on a quick hunt, I think that's what you should get working. It looks very useful if it works as advertised. Running a command, more likely script, that invokes ipfw to add notified addresses (with a timestamp, possibly set to some future time ($now + $interval)?) to an ipfw table is easy; I have several scripts that deal with this. A cron script to periodically find and delete the expired entries is also straightforward. However ipfw must be run as root, so you'll need some signalling so a script run by www-user (ono) can inform a root shell process to run ipfw commands and return status to your script. Good fun .. with some care. > > I haven't used (nor heard of) mod_evasive so can't comment on that, but > > limiting the total number of connections open to a given service can > > certainly mitigate the effect of such DoS attacks. > > Again, I think keep-alive might cause issues here (but please do correct me if > wrong). Limiting connection to the HTTP service might also worsen the DoS to > users. Yes, I believe you're right. Even with the webserver returning 403s, it's still an access.log DoS .. so the firewall is the tool to block those deemed baddies, and mod_evasive looks like a good tool for the deeming job .. just some hits searching 'mod_evasive apache freebsd': https://project.altservice.com/issues/562 https://www.unixmen.com/protecting-apache-server-denial-service-dos-attack/ https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-protect-against-dos-and-ddos-with-mod_evasive-for-apache-on-centos-7 and of course https://www.freshports.org/www/mod_evasive/ [.. chomping tcpwrappers stuff ..] > Iÿÿm not familiar with using TCPwrappers, Have seen another recommend > SSHGuard though (which I am using already). Can I do something similar > with that, or does/should it do this (add to ban table) automatically? Unsure > if SSHGuard needs any additional rules written for Apache. I haven't used SSHGuard. Perhaps if you share your mod_evasive config and a problem description, someone here may be able to help? If so, I can offer ipfw script ideas. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 17:49:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FD4B61466 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: from zaph.org (zaph.org [199.48.132.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "zaph.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8F0416A4 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: by zaph.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 15050497E7B; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:39:09 -0700 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: Luca Ferrari Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Message-ID: <20160601173909.GB97464@ayvali.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:49:02 -0000 * Luca Ferrari [2016-06-01 10:35:06+0200]: > My fear is that if the master corrupts some file, I could possibly > loss them if they have also been moved since I will no more be able to > recognize them on the slaves. As the other poster mentioned, ZFS snapshots is the way to go. If you don't have these stored on ZFS filesystems, then check out rsnapshot as an alternative: http://rsnapshot.org/ It's available in ports. You can do ZFS-style hourly/daily/weekly/monthly snapshots. It uses hard links to save space, so the overhead is not too high. Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 18:03:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AA3B61899 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f48.google.com (mail-it0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFA3E110B for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f48.google.com with SMTP id e62so98309178ita.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:03:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=y9I83fARSP6sRsoJg3KI/WPGX21zWy/eBiDsshCrv+I=; b=iHi+wJA6oIV7toeLkBj4HVZgovY1pvJaxTZ7QVLyDhNBTomQwtAqbnJkrxkEakmZej 17aMArjnQsx0LETf+IbSpG491EBXygAzc8RcY8J8H5pOtGqd47shY9OyooYH7q6gjLGh Tu3z0ExA3MM8NX51B4dAUoIORTxXK3GZEona/+4USqli6Z6SDaoSLOzAY40SfeyQIktc KDBTlwuIrSewNBJhKyhlAP2VmmzNe0f9q9u/FG1ydMQnqGVQW4Wjwh0pyyqQQqjTf/Fo 62aXVP/n0IiG1ggbmlGs05uaX3+Q/dvPw8aKF07cUhql4JolWYSRP8a+khofaRM61ahV Fieg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIfoKIuPSEQUbq5uYgx0iZd+MFngf1e8GcJcRuPSaKp7g8H9bGQ3qW7nthbFOK0HA== X-Received: by 10.36.65.162 with SMTP id b34mr7084977itd.30.1464803878844; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-128-37.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.128.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k123sm12623852ith.7.2016.06.01.10.57.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Striped mirror raid10 In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 12:57:56 -0500 Message-ID: <86lh2okd0b.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:03:25 -0000 Bernt Hansson writes: > Hello list! > > I have set up a striped mirror; > > root@testbox:~ # gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gmirror0 COMPLETE ada0 (ACTIVE) > ada1 (ACTIVE) > mirror/gmirror1 COMPLETE ada2 (ACTIVE) > ada3 (ACTIVE) > root@testbox:~ # gstripe status > Name Status Components > stripe/stripe0 UP mirror/gmirror0 > mirror/gmirror1 > > /dev/stripe/stripe0 1.8T 4.0K 1.8T 0% /raid10 > > Now I want to encrypt it, but is that wise? I mean you can remove a > disk from the mirror, won't that break the encryption? And the > mirror/stripe. Encrypt the disks/partitions themselves, not the stripe or mirror. You can then create mirrors of the resulting *.eli device nodes, then create a stripe from the mirrors. You can unlock the disks/partitions at boot thus: 1) First, run `geli configure -b ` on each encrypted disk/partition, so you will be prompted for the passphrase for each encrypted partition during boot. 2) Next, add the line 'geom_eli_passphrase_prompt=YES' to the file /boot/loader.conf. This will add a passphrase prompt the boot menu, allowing you to enter the passphrase for the disks one time only, before the boot process begins. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 18:54:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69425B61750 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x232.google.com (mail-oi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 313CC112F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x232.google.com with SMTP id e72so42357593oib.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:54:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ies8nXRX8cgkzV3CiuBvlmwoIenH/A2DlCKByAg/u1A=; b=wXQyOg1ObdDrf+ds5LEdSpualSm72gn64NPh2iUWU9IQrp3IPKceEH9Q0zgwl1UBQB x17ae1s6kiaqrrfI9BKQfYr6mpG6Kz/GyDfmJo+gfsgfmwUQ9NoPmhImGO8tlcOGaIu6 j/PbDB1LwqScQ66gkVVGdwCK4xOvQzuVH0OTLuUBuZcFneTMkZ4CaYTu04IfkzPnQgTp V8LsnrNOwe/KrGCh1fqMfrdpVEIEe0ZPnWhwlZn4vTyibHnXMkSPQUcG7GFBxk+SDqMH 1kXktvZ366qGiVn0+j0o7K2mF8ZM8Zuij1mOUK9e8a8EyNjBtdcIha1rKE+331PhZO4W WHvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to; bh=ies8nXRX8cgkzV3CiuBvlmwoIenH/A2DlCKByAg/u1A=; b=dQl67fhf04PHhnugoBXSol1uHhrX1eXXfj1LkeH7fdqL8LwWhxxN1XljFHkiULi8nU mVPe97jtWb6H8TjQghU45SRw+zAKuK9ldpW/cxpZG+qmjkMFm6COSa1VXnYFBwDvXnQ2 33U8+IHVf3c48EnBrpgHW2er/l17MfKULQ6SdcAqw0/1nxxHEbDtFrM9f5A+kk9jbl6J C37quiG9uT1B1mgG5p+OQ1RPCqvBqrN9tuk0B1aTDfPJg+LGWrEHGbJ0ruANcklP7pux Nr5+AYGANK4yE0/cCmoRb3CyCNnqjeStG7YG/Cm7Q5/JFacLJSBZE4Db3aILIS/iO8q5 OSHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI1Y8jzb8r1U6vX9VYSTrcF+u/PVFpd9pevpXZ2ZtdkN4Qh3v3NU+80Qjty7nXVIkdQ/lv+3x0UDcnl7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.216.84 with SMTP id p81mr11773291oig.152.1464807257365; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.230.2 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:54:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: muLS4Wt2kZnJWzfW5y69SXYjRdw Message-ID: Subject: ipa-getkeytab & FreeBSD From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:54:18 -0000 Hi all, Has anyone attempted and/or got the FreeIPA tool, ipa-getkeytab, to compile and/or run on FreeBSD and have any feedback or guidance with regard to doing so? Just wondering what the level of effort might be to get it functional. -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 19:32:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EFCB60068 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B02413AE for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E4362233 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1BJ2yKujrwr for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4BF962231 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:42:54 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1464792174; bh=YTBIlRJb2bVPJZ4X6SSK7nT9EV7Ty6K+8X1cOSUVVSU=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=AK7nzXTac7rYAy4dqz37YdxJ1u4xs1EeweEkt9tbFcWhfddTyl5T/ob7ThRqbzxx/ EFVAW5J2Gv22BLICp3CaVypKtVv3fK8fe7H+ldZrlmW+HLo3DYVF2d70u8ruSpFDUd I2Bbd06kWV4zsMdA7HzPH4yQCNDq61Hf5qsr8r78KVdZUbE7YN/R4Phathyr1VW5zz KCY7qfKO+Rjelcw/FpsgAH/hldaJbegySpQp/7ioJAfuNSUjZ+ROFPmLGbmogY/zOL EGpysnmUe9PsuWsnXvv5H43hdQJXrcqQBVAmVaeXYZpWxwfJ+k9plPV5qo7weqnfCG K0wnH5Xn2+GDg== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:42:54 -0400 Message-ID: <9a2d260eea32e0da4a7d9e05a0752c79.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:42:54 -0400 Subject: autostart bhyve guests From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:32:15 -0000 What is the recommended way of auto-starting bhyve guests on host system boot? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 19:44:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28213B60601 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CF2C11AA for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:44:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Striped mirror raid10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86lh2okd0b.fsf@WorkBox.Home> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <574F3B3C.4010206@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:45:00 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86lh2okd0b.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:44:53 -0000 On 06/01/2016 10:57 AM, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > Bernt Hansson writes: > >> Hello list! >> >> I have set up a striped mirror; >> >> root@testbox:~ # gmirror status >> Name Status Components >> mirror/gmirror0 COMPLETE ada0 (ACTIVE) >> ada1 (ACTIVE) >> mirror/gmirror1 COMPLETE ada2 (ACTIVE) >> ada3 (ACTIVE) >> root@testbox:~ # gstripe status >> Name Status Components >> stripe/stripe0 UP mirror/gmirror0 >> mirror/gmirror1 >> >> /dev/stripe/stripe0 1.8T 4.0K 1.8T 0% /raid10 >> >> Now I want to encrypt it, but is that wise? I mean you can remove a >> disk from the mirror, won't that break the encryption? And the >> mirror/stripe. > > Encrypt the disks/partitions themselves, not the stripe or mirror. You > can then create mirrors of the resulting *.eli device nodes, then create > a stripe from the mirrors. You can unlock the disks/partitions at boot > thus: > > 1) First, run `geli configure -b ` on each encrypted > disk/partition, so you will be prompted for the passphrase for each > encrypted partition during boot. > 2) Next, add the line 'geom_eli_passphrase_prompt=YES' to the file > /boot/loader.conf. This will add a passphrase prompt the boot menu, > allowing you to enter the passphrase for the disks one time only, > before the boot process begins. I would think that you would want to encrypt one virtual device, rather than two physical devices, so that the CPU only has to deal with one encryption layer, not two encryption layers. With the encryption on top of the mirror: if one physical device fails, the cyphertext on the other physical drive will still exist and the virtual device will still provide plaintext. When the failed drive is replaced, it will be resilvered using the cyphertext from the good physical drive. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 19:47:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F227B60758 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDA1812C6 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:47:29 -0700 Subject: Re: Striped mirror raid10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86lh2okd0b.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <574F3B3C.4010206@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <574F3BE0.7010400@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:47:44 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <574F3B3C.4010206@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:47:36 -0000 On 06/01/2016 12:45 PM, David Christensen wrote: > I would think that you would want to encrypt one virtual device, rather > than two physical devices, so that the CPU only has to deal with one > encryption layer, not two encryption layers. Make than four physical devices, not two. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 20:01:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380DCB60D58 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f48.google.com (mail-it0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FDD81EEB for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f48.google.com with SMTP id z189so92040394itg.0 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:01:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=+93ibdzatmzOVw6lwUaS7c4H2tITZ2wNV1w7lMq3Izs=; b=EnoFnLKpxXb3Cb7CaymgtBjSk1QzXde2yO2UKoA/S4hlYr6CxrnvpzVyyF+Em3iqAB vWs/aRrGfmpm6dDPD9ppLPQVHuXeO3rqWDUEJxR9yKYX04kpJ58s9pICWCQX2BKp2MYO UngKAOCYC7NY97b69ZqvQGBXgJH7WPK0X64iiAUKj4szUDBZEN+BBdw8xGNVgyuQVin7 wVFa3MNqlWukIPCFBsEEEhWVIr4fV74M8zzcXeoIQKtZcwKKa1+zU7eeZj7Z3Sle1HCP cAszmXiEIbzPDJrQ8eyCXuZiYB8ADTe9uRxKpdRhK6FDUdUJhFLS/vWwgI54N2+sUWvy xpYw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLZOZMrijFKdvKdydwpK40CB2MGoRJGp5TypsEwYBXngp7Oq0Jan2IWFCDvf4gpFg== X-Received: by 10.36.17.207 with SMTP id 198mr22538680itf.81.1464805130861; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-128-37.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.128.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k72sm12676212ita.17.2016.06.01.11.18.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:18:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <20160601113332.5e250d300d770ab04e9c9cc2@sohara.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Luca Ferrari , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? In-reply-to: <20160601113332.5e250d300d770ab04e9c9cc2@sohara.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:18:43 -0500 Message-ID: <86k2i8kc1o.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:01:11 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:35:06 +0200 > Luca Ferrari wrote: > >> Hi all, >> so far I'm using rsync to keep in sync a couple of removable media >> (well, up to four) where one is the "master" and the others are a >> cascade backups (meaning they are set at different time). >> So far so good. >> One problem is that I tend to change things in the master, e.g., bulk >> file renaming or moving, so when I replicate it on the backups I have >> to force the deletion of no more existing content. >> This approach, however, relies on the fact that the master is good. My >> fear is that if the master corrupts some file, I could possibly loss >> them if they have also been moved since I will no more be able to >> recognize them on the slaves. >> >> So I would like to have some feature like git (or fossil) for hash >> handling, but since I'm talking about 290+ GB of binaries I'm not sure >> this approach could work. >> >> Any suggestion? > > Use ZFS with snapshots (the zfs-periodic package is good for this) > and replace the rsync with send/receive, ZFS will protect you from hardware > silent corruption (provided you allow some redundancy - use copies on pools > with no redundancy) while the snapshots will protect you from mistakes. If ZFS seems like overkill or too much hassle at the moment, you could instead use sysutils/rsnapshot. It uses rsync to create snapshot-style, rotating, de-duplicating, incremental backups. Verbose logging will show you what files have changed since the last backup, so if you see a file in the logs that you know you haven't changed in some time, it's probably corrupt or has otherwise been compromised. Meanwhile, the previous (good) versions will remain intact. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 20:04:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C19B60FB3 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philneaton95@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x235.google.com (mail-vk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C71D174B for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philneaton95@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id d127so42774785vkh.2 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:04:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=GoSXhKZxiHERa7EKIdT0aWRT2spgwb0QsX0xQ0bskWo=; b=BzdUKYwHhM1A6yjipte8oZ812kdBl08+9d0e3vF5uLVLDamzFYgLmy3HM871GliGM+ HGFPD1kB8eDkI28s/Not9zePJqHjc7yWMQJvZK3w5xTmopkAWqoz/JuJs2OokQgDEmMp 7wQTiapsPyJBBdBad/vZpvRGSlN2QlUXuecG3rTqeYi3Lv+eSn9cn7Ksf4lORVaNGAvI Tt9upPBqEtY7w7IAtCbzPJ43OMFVaGzOCjYJop9GwT/nA7hnSQK9gD9RAX0LuTRjvmrV 7vEzOCwWskiJTfrh6COfMxId4GlpUiT8ssBtsgUqugOCSLgK8P+dR3YO+/sperP0zmYi qZIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=GoSXhKZxiHERa7EKIdT0aWRT2spgwb0QsX0xQ0bskWo=; b=VAZO1rARQZ+YbFTNy2z5o3Zs8z8Gs0Ddeej7wrJJjzflvYfbagHYvmg85zrtEyKI7a 0JN9GWi53LrTU9AQRyRRtz7ap8/YGk9/L175Hn7qJEKnMkT8+Ww/CMbpFktwa+yLGpYt jfHrUctvrE/K1TZHJgcd8ViL9Tas+r8qHLHRZqgAG4ajmfdM+/OdqJ7blDqKTJGCQBXx 5EZj1nIc+DKjciq2KBJEsmxnTpiA/3vcqZCuFUMefV+tq3Td81RPee+XWgKgfEyjvYQt FrAXpBpcIsKjbgtJ3ImQZ1Gl8u6WNeR8Eg0FjiceFGIlkBZAxkDjCCCt2EmD8wsOb1WJ rs3g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJQguj02olxRJfXVsF23sJ9uSv8ylzmYG2v2a3tq0TwNJU12t5lR/pbgLZ4ytvx4moSZHxLaI3Jx9x5ww== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.159.54.193 with SMTP id p59mr3039094uap.100.1464811483430; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.159.54.241 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:04:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86k2i8kc1o.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <20160601113332.5e250d300d770ab04e9c9cc2@sohara.org> <86k2i8kc1o.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:04:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? From: Phil Eaton To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions , Luca Ferrari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:04:44 -0000 Is there a good article comparing rsnapshot and zfs-snapshots? On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Brandon J. Wandersee < brandon.wandersee@gmail.com> wrote: > > Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: > > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:35:06 +0200 > > Luca Ferrari wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> so far I'm using rsync to keep in sync a couple of removable media > >> (well, up to four) where one is the "master" and the others are a > >> cascade backups (meaning they are set at different time). > >> So far so good. > >> One problem is that I tend to change things in the master, e.g., bulk > >> file renaming or moving, so when I replicate it on the backups I have > >> to force the deletion of no more existing content. > >> This approach, however, relies on the fact that the master is good. My > >> fear is that if the master corrupts some file, I could possibly loss > >> them if they have also been moved since I will no more be able to > >> recognize them on the slaves. > >> > >> So I would like to have some feature like git (or fossil) for hash > >> handling, but since I'm talking about 290+ GB of binaries I'm not sure > >> this approach could work. > >> > >> Any suggestion? > > > > Use ZFS with snapshots (the zfs-periodic package is good for this) > > and replace the rsync with send/receive, ZFS will protect you from > hardware > > silent corruption (provided you allow some redundancy - use copies on > pools > > with no redundancy) while the snapshots will protect you from mistakes. > > If ZFS seems like overkill or too much hassle at the moment, you could > instead use sysutils/rsnapshot. It uses rsync to create snapshot-style, > rotating, de-duplicating, incremental backups. Verbose logging will > show you what files have changed since the last backup, so if you see a > file in the logs that you know you haven't changed in some time, it's > probably corrupt or has otherwise been compromised. Meanwhile, the > previous (good) versions will remain intact. > > -- > > :: Brandon J. Wandersee > :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com > :: -------------------------------------------------- > :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' > :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Phil Eaton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 20:38:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9D7B61AC3 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f41.google.com (mail-it0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43920110C for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i127so33837304ita.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=HycSybdF0sxIiXFYHxvin4XV4hnvYgF8+9owgj1Cjd0=; b=fDPMGVmf0A7OK+oqrvjvWDMQ3F1x3GV4Mimk+4mKtY8MNEZROpfcKKP98B4TCUVjJO eTQQ3WEKytC8Laxkbv5rRBiQp+Ag0ZZw5bjE8+6qWmMU8vqLO1+17d4FyKJBxbQHoJsP r03gdGTKDAJeRsVBoWpXRwC8kD6TJgxTzwJfWzd66KJ2d3OqN4MeJ092J46E/XGEbs/W NLcT4dLwC/40pKO0tRLDw+UOKWEc8h0SKeABS2it95QLWVPhUWR85PI1ORi+3ycRJwTQ gKCrvJu2xu18P+5asgwaHivdflGMnfp+3tzV41Qg3sNuk/jfJXWOdYck4PzlZKIT/QkG YNGA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK3A7Zk22oeTUJbKqo6uH+LjQNEqV8hSz37xERnu1ouDOtxuRmdXL2cmVbxj8Gsqg== X-Received: by 10.36.218.68 with SMTP id z65mr8835516itg.19.1464813481037; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-128-37.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.128.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g7sm12853625itg.10.2016.06.01.13.37.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <20160601113332.5e250d300d770ab04e9c9cc2@sohara.org> <86k2i8kc1o.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Phil Eaton Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions , Luca Ferrari Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:37:57 -0500 Message-ID: <86h9dcbq6y.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:38:02 -0000 Phil Eaton writes: > Is there a good article comparing rsnapshot and zfs-snapshots? I don't know of any such comparison, but they are not comparable in any technical sense. Here is the gist of how rsnapshot works, supposing you configure it to make daily backups: 1) On the first run, a complete backup is created in a folder named "daily.0" at the destination. 2) On the second run, the original backup is rotated to "daily.1". Copies of all changed files are then copied to a new "daily.0" folder, and hard links are created to all other files in the initial backup, so only the new/modified files take up additional space and each backup folder appears to contain a complete backup that can be restored. 3) This repeats for every backup, to a maximum number set in the configuration file. You can configure multiple backup intervals and run cron/anacron/periodic jobs for each one. So when using an external or remote destination the general effect is the same. Storing the backups locally will double the space consumed by the backed-up data, however. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 13:57:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92915B61CD3 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 13:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D65A614B8 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 13:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u52DulAt052949; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:56:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:56:47 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: RW cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pidfile generated by /usr/sbin/daemon not usable by rc.d script In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160602230511.W15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 13:57:01 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 626, Issue 4, Message: 3 On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:08:19 +0100 RW wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:58:28 +1000 (EST) > Ian Smith wrote: [..] > > Also, none of the others (here) need daemon(8) to run, in background > > or otherwise .. are you sure that you require its functionality for > > 'foo'? > > Most daemons were written as such. daemon(8) is there for those that > weren't or were written in a scripting language that doesn't support > the double fork. Ah right, fair enough and thanks. > > For one thing, it seems that daemon keeps the -p pidfile locked > > during execution of the process; might that affect service status, > > stop, etc? > > I think the problem is pretty straightforward. If you run this > > read _pid _junk < $_pidfile > > and $_pidfile doesn't end in a newline, read will wait for one, just as > it would if you typed in a line and didn't hit return. But it doesn't wait on 9.3 stable of last October at least with this small set of pidfiles, some with & some without trailing newline, thus: % cat ~/bin/pidtest.sh #!/bin/sh # 2/6/16 re RW's msg in questions@ for _pidfile in /var/run/*.pid; do echo $_pidfile hd $_pidfile | head -1 read _pid _junk < $_pidfile echo "_pid: '$_pid' _junk: '$_junk'" done echo done root@x200:~ # pidtest.sh /var/run/consolekit.pid 00000000 39 31 31 0a |911.| _pid: '911' _junk: '' /var/run/cron.pid 00000000 38 35 31 |851| _pid: '851' _junk: '' /var/run/devd.pid 00000000 34 32 37 |427| _pid: '427' _junk: '' /var/run/dhclient.em0.pid 00000000 33 34 38 |348| _pid: '348' _junk: '' /var/run/moused.pid 00000000 37 31 39 |719| _pid: '719' _junk: '' /var/run/ntpd.pid 00000000 36 39 32 |692| _pid: '692' _junk: '' /var/run/powerd.pid 00000000 36 39 35 |695| _pid: '695' _junk: '' /var/run/sendmail.pid 00000000 38 32 34 0a 2f 75 73 72 2f 73 62 69 6e 2f 73 65 |824./usr/sbin/se| _pid: '824' _junk: '' /var/run/sshd.pid 00000000 38 30 31 0a |801.| _pid: '801' _junk: '' /var/run/syslog.pid 00000000 35 39 30 |590| _pid: '590' _junk: '' done No ptoblem interactively either; one of each (that non-root can read): $ read _pid _junk < /var/run/ntpd.pid $ echo $_pid 692 $ echo $_junk $ read _pid _junk < /var/run/sshd.pid $ echo $_pid 801 $ echo $_junk So maybe this issue is something new(er) in FreeBSD somewhere? cheers, Ian (please cc me, digests can take a day) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 21:45:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757AFB660B3 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirnym@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x243.google.com (mail-lf0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF71413AD for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirnym@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id 65so3290930lfq.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kGHImvg06WvgpaXWJp/copUBHVrmXRkTmlWSeg2iobM=; b=ljm4MYe9QjH1L2n9m3bS0M8ruKYwyAqT1U/oHGRgNY4IqcPrKkhM4FbGWqNGWIH3Zy gtjwiuEjL+0FbuUHcnW1lDSfEO6kpfCWa9fwEtB8fnUtP0YfNqW/JJrZb2Skhjo1MNkv nK68fe0K44kQ7Skfh5631RsIqTHh6Mx8hi+a6jLstyM+YVPCeIPgl+cZ9eCLbUhx5aUX TuwLb/OdjP1FCq7pu+4JAkcqi/K9ZD9PcqpeytiYLEfkuWoelEoGp6F0015h79hDqNIv DYh8T51HHtMEBA62mixVfm5MrZyN4nqAZ6funiqTBtw5sJ53BTNL5h0w+IPTq/mkxoYH 6ipA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kGHImvg06WvgpaXWJp/copUBHVrmXRkTmlWSeg2iobM=; b=KRwE7Oq4eUzVuqWpaYwOfx6Oq3J4orVtElayhQeY0aM83EHQKNfxvnf12X643FWVe8 5GfD3OMZtdbGcDgc91K6g8Jn2Nw0Hooe+XX8gpwnVnpOEOk/m1rwTViNx6KNx4HHiFio OehTzrXO62l1gF1UUkfRpmspr/bG7xN3YxvVn0TG/B3RAiwEIIRFIkQzAWPq+fIjirdj hq55JMvhG7j71kTQ5BiQshPPsZ/N8H5lVOHKUfT2IzBLfUQ6lzUO8strZYBC5YNHe7eZ K0BnS971ViJrKrK6FJ8aOXQHzfE0OduxNIwEkA+a8i5bL4H9c18rAlIAzEzhDtI50N4M uUiw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ263y1oVvIvmansAVWoYllk9MIgzst42WTRKVpSDA5jh2NxFtKVxStJCM8bEoFYA== X-Received: by 10.46.0.225 with SMTP id e94mr2773238lji.48.1464817502607; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.24.218] (eroese.org. 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Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 02:55:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59B5B661A3 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664C913B8 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp14-2-37-105.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.37.105]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2016 12:20:33 +0930 Subject: Re: slightly OT hardware question To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9971febb-334b-8cb6-170a-6f28d81b4ba9@hiwaay.net> <45833.128.135.52.6.1464193655.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160601085243.6c15201e@nunki.holyordnance.org> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <574F9EF7.7070204@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:20:31 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160601085243.6c15201e@nunki.holyordnance.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 02:55:44 -0000 On 02/06/2016 00:22, Eric S Pulley wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:48 -0453.75 > "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > >> On 05/25/16 11:33, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 10:51 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 >>>> or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD >>>> compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk >>> What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to >>> bay RAM and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I >>> definitely will get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of >>> $300 as opposed to $40 for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but >>> with fitlet-i I will have two gige ports, and enough CPU power to >>> have it handling decent traffic. (Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up >>> to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least by Israeli company; 5 >>> years warranty, available on amazon, power consumption up to 10 W). >>> >>> Just my $0.02 >>> >>> Valeri >>> >>> PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is >>> better option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN. >>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> William A. Mahaffey III > > If you are getting into $280+ USD range you may aswell look at Soekris > Engineering. Makers of fine BSD small SBC/routers for many years... Getting a little higher in price, have a look at http://netgate.com Their 2GB ram 2xGbE ports for $299 + 89 or 149 for wifi options. http://store.netgate.com/ADI/RCC-DFF-2220.aspx bsdnow mentioned a blog post about some testing to increase the size of state tables that was done on their 6 port box with 8GB ram http://blog.cochard.me/2016/05/playing-with-freebsd-packet-filter.html -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 12:27:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640F2B65846 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 278E014E7 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [82.113.98.145] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1b8RiJ-0007so-FG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 14:27:03 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u52CQwAq004521 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 14:26:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u52CQvBv004520 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 14:26:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 14:26:57 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: validation of XML data against XSD Message-ID: <20160602122657.GA4491@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.98.145 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 12:27:13 -0000 Hello, Do we have something in our ports tree which could do what the Subject: says? I tried xmllint, but this does detect violations against the XSD. Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Die Verkaufsschlager des Buchmarkts geben Auskunft über den Zustand einer Gesellschaft bzw. sind, was diese Zeiten angeht, Gradmesser fortschreitenden Schwachsinns. ..." (jW 19.05.2016) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 16:07:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B273B62AF8 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 352EA12DB for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b8Uuk-00028m-FO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 17:52:06 +0200 Received: from ppp-49-237-160-9.revip6.asianet.co.th ([49.237.160.9]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 17:52:06 +0200 Received: from loki by ppp-49-237-160-9.revip6.asianet.co.th with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 17:52:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Oliver Briscbois Subject: Re: How to create a fork of freebsd Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 22:46:06 +0700 Organization: Zapto Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <20160529132248.GA36882@slackbox.erewhon.home> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-49-237-160-9.revip6.asianet.co.th User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 16:07:21 -0000 On 2016-05-29, Mathe Eliel wrote: > I will go through FreeSBIE and be back to you! > Thank you very much. I've been following this thread with interest and will also give FreeSBIE a try. thanks for starting this topic. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 14:49:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9770DB63934 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 14:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 646B112C0 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 14:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id p194so48482213iod.1 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:49:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=UygCJKOsFMw7oAto6kr5RqkQVPjTe47ml7ywpfs4QXs=; b=zVNJ7zyI2pAUU0Tr7eICl8opUm5lN5VAjMJUpaA77p8Kq/iPbiqPFKMe28lCPpi9UN 1rpwNTHt4V3XVs8TOWkNbcaJeGVwZUKHKpiIyK3H4roP8ft2EMSVAPmdoN5cL08HxAz0 bJAZziGcZPiXJ2Mu3JF2Emc4Eu274KJovyFKO2xc0wF2FPoBCmQTQdoeUFSzIxMLhLhT cHUFKVGMJNJ+RtPi6A4r+rztpPT7v8OwntMf1cYGym7ubUQxKHgN9WFKaT2gN4AM9mk2 VEQC+P+lZXnh5B8PYc1i1JIiiEoemy55dlYNOtzWvLbB/Sw2Lv17jBb1hv/DFk2L2dOL HmvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=UygCJKOsFMw7oAto6kr5RqkQVPjTe47ml7ywpfs4QXs=; b=Lru/QcD/JbDbRTkWlJ2GvHG05LfOm+nJ+EkriaFJ/3SICj+LrCqyTkJ2AHljQetuej UcfaVTAZynjWNHoEClxBk4q1NSFouhBfqt51YXNIr/yerEp5amd8p6OEzJg6bsqPZPrP 7XQgrz3WPu/BnyJZ4AlaNfpGksks/wJSmSogzJqRJWt6yFyFcD6WxDwQ7eW0UB+CnJ16 mv2yPY/hxz/nb8EKBl3KCg7ucIu/r+6U14TiBbxEF2MJYiCa4FJ5M/E8ofC4PLlzSdYj 8GpSVWN6tLShVRO3kesdrv14qOGZ8kWLKEZQ0PG9U0CEjZ6qzIHzXZ1ZmWdv8a71ZacZ LQ/w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKxJ3r3qCV13D4MGvmG0F7bu4/UP1dcu3W+iBZrXUM+YVuPA0xDpLo1LAYHi6T2bsd25pNaYQpgNbu9Ig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.47.98 with SMTP id j95mr3464295ioo.168.1464878966706; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.11.221 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 07:49:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 07:49:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? From: jungle Boogie To: Luca Ferrari Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 14:49:27 -0000 On 1 June 2016 at 01:35, Luca Ferrari wrote: > > Any suggestion? Obviously the first choice is zfs snapshots but if you're like me, that's not a choice. I'd recommend something like borg backup: https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/ http://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ It's a python written app that will dedup your data so there's a chance it can compress and dedup your large datasets very nicely. The maintainer is very active with keeping it current and 1.0.3 is available in ports/pkg: http://www.freshports.org/archivers/py-borgbackup/ As you will see in the documentation, you can make a script and call it with cron however often/irregular you would like and have it also prune. I think it's worth trying out for your use case. -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 15:14:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC53B64F1C for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E781059 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 724BACB8CA8; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:13:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:13:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <12885.128.135.52.6.1464880434.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <22569.128.135.52.6.1464729151.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:13:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: RE: LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives problem From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Paul Esson" Cc: "galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:14:01 -0000 On Wed, June 1, 2016 8:14 am, Paul Esson wrote: > Hi Valeri, > > I had similar issue with Dell PERC 730 which is OEM of LSI card and 6TB > 4Kn drives. In my case I had to force the use of the MRSAS driver over > MFI initially by exiting the boot sequence to loader prompt and typing: > > set hw.mfi.mrsas_enable=1 > > Thereafter I added the line " hw.mfi.mrsas_enable=1" to /boot/loader.conf" > after I had installed the OS. Thanks, Paul! Brilliant! Works like a charm. I'm ashamed I didn't even think to look around if there is different driver... (which we often did long-long ago ;-( Valeri > > Regards, > > Paul Esson  |  Redstor Limited > t  +44 (0)118 951 5235  |   m  +44 (0)776 690 6514 > e  paul.esson@redstor.com > www.redstor.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valeri Galtsev [mailto:galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu] > Sent: 31 May 2016 22:13 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives problem > > Dear All, > > Does anybody have LSI MegaRAID (Avago, not LSI, I should have said) with > 8TB 4kn drives working on the machine running FreeBSD? If yes, how did you > install system on that machine? > > My problem is: when I boot from FreeBSD DVD the machine that has LSI > MegaRAID card (MegaRAID SAS 9271-8i) with 8TB 4Kn (HGST He) the boot > sequence gets stuck after launching CPUs loading USB (and discovering > keyboard/mouse). After that the machine doesn't respond to keystrokes and > keeps printing messages: > > mfi0: COMMAND oxfffffe0000e56cc0 TIMEOUT AFTER 56 SECONDS > > (and it keeps printing these lines with increasing numbers of seconds). > This sounds like it is getting stuck when loading mfi driver for LSI > controller. I flashed the latest firmware one cane get from AvagoTech > website for this controller. This sounds similar to the known bug in mfi > kernel module that was fixed in FreeBSD 9.1. Still, if I try to boot DVD > with latest FreeBSD 10.3, or older: 10.1, 9.3, I have this problem. If I > disconnect all drives, or connect older smaller drives with 512 byte block > size, all goes well, and I am able to boot the machine from FreeBSD > installation DVD. Also, I can boot Linux from DVD without problem with 4Kn > drives attached, but you can imagine I will not be happy to have to > install Linux instead of FreeBSD. > > > Does anybody have LSI MegaRAID with 8TB 4kn drives working on the machine > running FreeBSD? > > Any advises what else I could try before submit bug report? > > Thanks a lot for all your answers! > > Valeri > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological > Physics University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 2 19:21:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C733CB65FCF for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artem@artem.ru) Received: from fallback2.mail.ru (fallback2.mail.ru [94.100.179.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABDA1EDF for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artem@artem.ru) Received: from smtp29.i.mail.ru (smtp29.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.89]) by fallback2.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id AEDBA1025BDD1 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:52:43 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=Niq7MNe4MT44qsJQjFrS98VfxyEFRQtMHDomvAvcAG0=; b=PTYJGKbzwRf6WlEwZFlQj2o/BLjj/jQQUFFGGoqVlyNOsG0DiOQIpeCNp3eATKb1FpZkyyKreCIo/+37Thy6lT14XVMzis0xxVJLcVUzo/XKl0ZHVv4WK8wlStCqmUKsSeixaZJDGPr5kRnu6S0JHGV10TZFlU13H8C30JEbwPM=; Received: from [109.188.127.87] (port=17632 helo=[192.168.0.12]) by smtp29.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1b8WnK-0000dH-FE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 20:52:34 +0300 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List From: Artem Kuchin Subject: rctl memory usage count and swap Message-ID: <60ecb4a9-c3c5-6bfd-e032-21fa5f03c85a@artem.ru> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:52:38 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mras: OK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:21:01 -0000 Hello freebsd 10.2 I have apache in jail, each apache in running under its own user, so, i have many user in one jail and many httpd processed started under that users. I wanted to limit memory usage per user and disable swap for all of them. So, i use rctl I try such rules vmemoryuse:log=1g swapuse:log=0 Now two problem appeared immediately 1) VMEMORYUSE I see messages in log file like this kernel: rctl: rule "user:17032:vmemoryuse:log=1073741824" matched by pid 40360 (httpd), uid 17032, jail XXX So, it seems like user overused memory, i check # rctl -u user:17032 cputime=37 datasize=368640 stacksize=0 coredumpsize=0 memoryuse=329007104 memorylocked=0 maxproc=10 openfiles=320 vmemoryuse=4147863552 pseudoterminals=0 swapuse=6148096 nthr=9 msgqqueued=0 msgqsize=0 nmsgq=0 nsem=0 nsemop=0 nshm=0 shmsize=0 wallclock=28270 pcpu=0 Aha, seems like the user used 4G of virtual memory and 329M of real memory No lets see its processes 17032 2213 1 0 21 0 446372 27808 select SsJ - 0:02.47 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 30173 2213 0 20 0 450468 39644 accept IJ - 0:00.29 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39611 2213 0 20 0 450468 37160 accept IJ - 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39612 2213 0 20 0 450468 36712 accept IJ - 0:00.05 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39613 2213 0 20 0 450468 36608 accept IJ - 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39614 2213 0 20 0 450468 36624 accept IJ - 0:00.05 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39617 2213 0 20 0 450468 37144 accept IJ - 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39618 2213 0 20 0 450468 36268 accept SJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39619 2213 0 20 0 450468 36432 accept IJ - 0:00.05 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39621 2213 0 20 0 450468 36332 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39623 2213 0 20 0 450468 36988 accept IJ - 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39624 2213 0 20 0 450468 36212 accept IJ - 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39626 2213 0 20 0 450468 36544 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39627 2213 0 20 0 450468 37360 accept IJ - 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39628 2213 0 20 0 450468 36772 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39633 2213 0 20 0 450468 34972 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39634 2213 0 20 0 450468 36104 accept IJ - 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39635 2213 0 20 0 450468 35784 accept IJ - 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39637 2213 0 20 0 450468 36232 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39638 2213 0 20 0 450468 36620 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39645 2213 0 20 0 450468 36084 accept IJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39649 2213 0 20 0 450468 36356 accept SJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39652 2213 0 20 0 450468 36156 accept SJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39653 2213 0 20 0 450468 35436 accept SJ - 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39655 2213 0 20 0 450468 37752 accept SJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39657 2213 0 20 0 450468 35664 accept IJ - 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 17032 39661 2213 0 20 0 450468 36228 accept SJ - 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd As you see the virtual memory is 100% shared and RSS is at most 930M Where rctl gets its number? memoryuse=329007104 vmemoryuse=4147863552 2) swapuse:log=0 This rule create strange problems (when used with deny) Jun 2 20:24:57 omni kernel: rctl: rule "user:17094:swapuse:log=0" matched by pid 27553 (httpd), uid 17094, jail XXXX Jun 2 20:24:57 omni kernel: kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7) As you see from rctl -u it shows swapuse=6148096 but! # swapinfo Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/mirror/swap 4194300 0 4194300 0% So, not swap is really used But even if i do swapuse:log=300M i get the same error And what maxpopekva has to do with it? Is rctl really usable in 10.2 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 04:16:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E5BB6874E for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 04:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@sippysoft.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com (mail-oi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82F921294 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 04:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@sippysoft.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id k23so109646137oih.0 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 21:16:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sippysoft-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=UuUa4dXL1nc6kcqGLYHhwZ8+IbnuB6uwDNezDYUB6qM=; b=PALyFcIuB5PPzuTvm9CxO1PXGTYU+vNmxXwUppovywJPTdjlZMmzmM/yhVyi3+TRQE hGdhzBU7O45vpIBMun7yM6/TfPlBItIXD8p+qscURFANU5wRAcESAkeagjNumkcpH7nG TRG4kK9hsz5qiv5jEs3C39v7O4/hp9KRry9gajx6fuu9fjY1ql3dBEuPcuQ4vPV2t/V1 z7t+vYZeeyAAOHbHVMYa70zy3UKWdoWzsmlqs75a8zhIvBvh8RXGj4QX8XGD/FvGS6zb pCEOGzbxiLFw1F/UDUjqgfqrP9fBO09XGFIKYPqqhVPpubYoEkLp28nefXrCCtEXiTWi gmmg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to; bh=UuUa4dXL1nc6kcqGLYHhwZ8+IbnuB6uwDNezDYUB6qM=; b=aLz2inqTJjktzLTz/BZwMRXJree7MjdzuXnAz8Yj6N6mupwAOUffwMVbFpyFNnc5cg YYkeCvrP1kOvahm7mzlaByJu95WZYWbaBkkl2xCNuqOzO2HbZNOq2mhS7QZvJSRrAN/2 weXxlKLVCjbRHEPET0jek7rrAkSffMiqSItpBerCuukP32oBDJbEsoi8bHax5Xa6GZ88 mu5IHYXuSzNDkf718dzUuDEBfiAMqXZiaBl9SDdehP1meap2ZtreB7TLWxPvlsNjkkO7 EZSU6ZLn4h/kSF3a9Mv8BexlyVLoANuo3i/abLisWELznAVCdtQh2L+QZIFRgXiwgc76 99dA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIk5F55kq+V/mIk+oMxQ8oBiT0VCTTKVNiTo2d5rV5Dpu5XeOeM5G9phICnOZYpUzRFqlbKD4YYjSWBXbuB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.241.67 with SMTP id p64mr652858oih.197.1464927407613; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 21:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sobomax@sippysoft.com Received: by 10.157.56.70 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:16:47 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _pVd8Ya48XkdEhMcg4Hhyl0Z93I Message-ID: Subject: CLOCK_MONOTONIC / CLOCK_UPTIME is not really monotonic between threads From: Maxim Sobolev To: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-threads@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 04:16:48 -0000 Hi there, we have an application here which is trying to measure UDP command/response round-trip-time. It runs two posix threads (more actually, but that's probably irrelevant), one (let's call it A) that does high-level logic and the second one (B) that does network packet I/O. The sending side is done by first thread A forming the request, then calling the function clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) and passing the packet into the thread B. Obtained timestamp is stored with some logical transaction ID allowing us to pull that stored value later on when response arrives. Then we have a separate process that receives those requests, processing them and sending back some form of response. Upon receiving a response from the network, the network I/O thread (B) timestamps it by running clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) and passes the packet data along with that value via queue to the thread A for processing. So if we put things into timeline, what our app does would probably look something like the following: 1. Thread A generates request. 2. A calls clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC), storing value as t1 internally 3. A passes packet to thread B 4. B sends out packet via sendto() to server process running on the same box (fully separate, not a thread) [some microseconds later] 5. B receives response from server with recvfrom() 6. B instantly calls clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC), assigns returned value to t2 7. B passes packet data along with t2 to the A via queue 8. A picks up packet, parses it and retrieves corresponding t1 stored at step 2. 9. A calculates RTT by doing t2 - t1 assuming it's going to be positive... As you might have guessed if you are still reading, from time to time t2 - t1 comes out slightly negative! Provided it's not some obscure bug in our app, there is no way this could happen if clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) would work as advertised. Event (2) could not possibly happen earlier than (6), which is guaranteed by the fact that the request needs to be processed by the external entity first in order for the response to be seen by our app at all. I've added some logs and it seems to be confirming that the server only sees a single request, there is no chance for the client to receive some other packet and confuse it. I've also confirmed with tcpdump, which shows reasonable time delay between request and reply of few hundreds microseconds. I've checked all logic and I could not find any mistakes on my end here, so I added some logging for such events. The distribution appears to be centered around 0.00006s, but there are some events that go as far up as 0.012s. I've also tried using CLOCK_UPTIME_PRECISE instead, but it makes no difference whatsoever. My questions therefore are: 1. Is it intended/expected behavior of the said API? 2. Has anyone else bumped into this? 3. I know we are doing some clever optimizations using TSC to speed those APIs up, could be it related to that? 4. If the answer for (3) is yes, then what is the method to disable using TSC and use slower but possibly more reliable method? 5. Is there any way/plan to fix this long-term? 6. If the behavior is intended/expected, what is the maximum discrepancy we can expect from this effect? In general some time ago we've spend quite lot of time switching our app from using REALTIME into MONOTIME in the hope to eliminate any wizardry needed to deal with realtime possibly jumping back and forth due to NTP, leap seconds etc, it's shame that this is not working either. Apart from measuring command processing delay, that app does lot of high-volume voip call billing, so even such small discrepancy can easily build up into a bigger problem, not to mention the fact that every time we deal with duration we now need to have some check in place to make sure we don't have some negative values popping our of nowhere. Any hints, suggestions, pointers are appreciated. I can also give more debug information as needed. Thanks! -Max From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 05:05:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991DBB68FDA; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 05:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com (mail-io0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 653831B40; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 05:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x231.google.com with SMTP id o189so54931278ioe.2; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 22:05:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=HB2MCHDu3HgA9EshZyPtgWRG8azVzZUZFLIwjsNXc4A=; b=qvqAYuCxTCebd03wL9RXt5fe999NOWxcnFvdYKRzRmVqkS4CGskzREs/3cfjwk6ru0 ZDSEzO40J5bEzWG8vkvqT1t1XOIDvXOzvvouRCAPbBWPjLB0mCXsAIPFaZM2ZYMZU8ko 5qUTI40ph0s31Zh6pnVH3pROoVuXinWjckIXazrKqdClFvvVZhehbCbkfDVKsJOyeEOq Puislektl9aLQ1Awp4PmRRCu1CGd7tY0n6iuuFnKEA84L2ArB6LDJYSzMHl0Q8fDBlLE 9KqHo0H6YAiQ5nAOGE0/x+WCRWVyjpNfwpUPDdBWO4/8SzVxi+gxOsG/yGYugO+DPNdc 0IMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=HB2MCHDu3HgA9EshZyPtgWRG8azVzZUZFLIwjsNXc4A=; b=ltZi74TQWgTRBiw61zM5zUv4seayn9QIZH14veKSADSde8YGAJ05bifctH9i+xqf7M boQenHfwgAsQbrjcJh8TCMzHFlg/8pKXo6Pop1wg52KA/4WzsumKD9UX/z5lGAl1at8N fZSjr1urTbolfCgcRKbvKHogssam5CAO+oDpproJS6WI3SQVW5spRCP1ePUuooGDrqXN BKuqL3exOkwpCiMXvvi+n1PiFAq501/SW9bM+5Oe9hhkBjzR/1jJNeqsqVG8JPEu99HY CTOhlw0zfbuS1jZcOFJaYBg0pTG+vQoNHyWjht+bVCpqZV3FiuqHN7kT8n8t+LB/PYXb 6cuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJV1p1JlAgAB38AkJzzF/PJxW8l+N7LhPSFP7HqE63f453TW51fEaNYZbBRKHYHb0SoocH5h92hPtlQuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.48.203 with SMTP id w194mr2390958iow.123.1464930328822; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 22:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.3 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 22:05:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 22:05:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CLOCK_MONOTONIC / CLOCK_UPTIME is not really monotonic between threads From: Adrian Chadd To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-threads@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 05:05:29 -0000 [snip] a) is it on one core, or multiple cores? b) CLOCK_MONOTONIC_FAST? c) is it on a system that /has/ invariant-TSC ? d) is this a multi-socket system? -adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 07:19:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C240B68B09 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com (mail-oi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11ED710BD for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id w184so114167131oiw.2 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:19:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=dwejll2sWWkEFEPaJ61ZG37nS+0wsknyH3eEyc2Ahv8=; b=Nn7mwYR43XpeIVy3++J8XCmLwqYcumvB2BjvHQm++T7Y5/96rcvfHF2DI1xjNbESfC xZXJbIjIllfVTmTPQQpyc3pNFTHn2miGtMVEetbjkCC6SxRL1INKDbcAmDlClFOjOl84 CmgXEtETOM7pp7uzzh8413w4WgV6E9KWoVa0pp359We2nxDDid4G56CYBwf+OcD54Fik YcDfrJKsWcc1AqKaXKfmvLJv+9mMwAiZCbkObZBTLxmL1i9+IwWPF11XsgPif2rbRJnQ Q3ALMpr+8uEQiX/7qxLX9CjFbgg9CsUz9OzZqoM/24s51C3eTwjqudUHofj7lnuvbzCi vf/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dwejll2sWWkEFEPaJ61ZG37nS+0wsknyH3eEyc2Ahv8=; b=gxMzN/i67+UpBYDxa7n+RcP9Bea6zAw07fapuk6YuNvLHFzW1o5cM4iRmbgYx27vrG O8VZH9yNviGrZcMqEiGetdRq7B/tidtmIyhHRDZJ+x74nUPiX6smtzqpw4xSUz6CpnAH 9DwJTU4FjGh0FCZd4PcydtVo/lqIUsL7GUB7Zm4QfzJppT6r6VE3vePletGG7Lj851S1 GbRXn3hPQOif4KJOCyLMBIiZyxNAlxXYRBne4YwZUgyFq8CQZae7qVIFVo0w8VPx1ekT YWYQa85s4Z4XD3A6eMWG+1Dg462viEBlVpirSa3KMQSf1HHu3x6wsomPMCpA2aB+Ayxl eCJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJQOE292uBPF/PigGRKp651f+fP9/TP7FCt7JSPjf0wh8gw6qyGFgLnTlwyRxvANFQGzM8oKQ7cUWAePA== X-Received: by 10.157.38.97 with SMTP id a88mr924774otb.47.1464938349782; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:19:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.157.2.67 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 00:19:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Luca Ferrari Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:19:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gunAIMHwMJ9aiKo6FGKmYNWmIjs Message-ID: Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 07:19:11 -0000 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:49 PM, jungle Boogie wrote: > On 1 June 2016 at 01:35, Luca Ferrari wrote: >> >> Any suggestion? > > > Obviously the first choice is zfs snapshots but if you're like me, > that's not a choice. > > I'd recommend something like borg backup: > https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/ > http://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ Thanks to all. Effectively ZFS is a kind of too much for my poor USB disks, also because I would like to have them a little more portable than ZFS will give me (I'm not aware of any commercial media center able to read from a ZFS storage). I will give a try to rsnapshot and borg. Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 08:09:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C4CB68895 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu [IPv6:2a02:2770:6:0:21a:4aff:feaa:e902]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CC61DF5 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 57CF4387DF2; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:09:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:09:37 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Message-ID: <20160603080937.GD57978@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:09:39 -0000 jungle Boogie [2016-06-02 07:49 -0700] : > I'd recommend something like borg backup: > https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/ > http://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ > > It's a python written app that will dedup your data so there's a > chance it can compress and dedup your large datasets very nicely. This look impressive. Have you ever compared it to duplicity (which is my current choice for backups)? Niklaas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 08:18:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC91BB68B05 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.lindberg@wooga.net) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BC08139E for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.lindberg@wooga.net) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id a20so96159736wma.1 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 01:18:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wooga-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FrMAbe7VfKN5Fn+3Xp38Vq1bYipiMFAqUVFpUSV/llE=; b=zZYcc77gDXSNrKor9E9nmQLwOYnh6N7CZlUEBs/DcL90APyviGU6Om6XIvnaQ858IL gyoDzohzcu4Wyr8gpiC8t2qf/kRwnL/aTzHZaZ9LnJlkwxdkpZ6/FaoIFVzGtKG2dtr4 MDWCj6i8r6TPhlafBlkamXln//Q2gxn7m859PJJixqOv4+UzB3Vj40FM8PPAidJ3BJe7 5XJrtUb0nWJ5hbHhdf5qQ4h4EmI/uhwUHQG30tFkGzgOIpmm4wypD31nbnTSysgdvaio bJEUHwpQhytLnsvRzKoPOtcn9o18ogqCNNY23Vx8fLZ/CLzHGLgxkDQTYEG0vDcOLSu9 vX4w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FrMAbe7VfKN5Fn+3Xp38Vq1bYipiMFAqUVFpUSV/llE=; b=mmons+k/iQVPDsCcfURHpM/TiDUYdR+XZ338WnfxWHFX3c6CxYGKYHv/hHnY8cgQQe 0EwPfddTgWUtf48nv349GwazJFgPU3DIp0NryeavDUkcUB8MAazyzATIwQVVRKm6r7eY XHDoK7KUlcg9vH73PrHJCZFMs5wRUHDWPSWTmQKkoSG6uamgeA2ZLF24T/Vz3e1eBjtv WARh0rX3d4Con8JHy/kUW4YhGiq3pgm8SrD9wAZpX+DOaXePZEls3ZnVqWPvZVZrF1wu JsbbeBc1nIM5FVOg7G8QgWGUdOowQ3SU5RGOhlN2N5w1d1r9us8Kxl/7YPGKPEvwmrST wE2g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKTuFQD0aSJX5QFA8mYnipFTqWkYhYvng63J3Br1ppT8nFwRTUPfxXNs8hIkBrDgoEV X-Received: by 10.28.139.208 with SMTP id n199mr2662917wmd.68.1464941935534; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 01:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.29.11.28] ([178.162.209.132]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ju6sm4461692wjb.14.2016.06.03.01.18.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 01:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Pidfile generated by /usr/sbin/daemon not usable by rc.d script From: Adam Lindberg In-Reply-To: <20160602230511.W15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:18:53 +0200 Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5C74A843-C2EB-424B-9254-0CD68A07E480@wooga.net> References: <20160602230511.W15883@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: Ian Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:18:57 -0000 We are using FreeBSD 10.1 STABLE. We are trying to demonize an Erlang = program. Erlang itself has support for detaching but cannot write = pidfiles. That=E2=80=99s why we=E2=80=99re trying to use daemon to wrap = it. My experience is also that read works in all cases without a newline, = except from inside the rc script. That I cannot explain. Cheers, Adam -- Adam Lindberg | Backend Engineer Wooga GmbH | Saarbr=C3=BCcker Str. 38 | D-10405 Berlin Place of business: Berlin Registered at the local court Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 117846 B Managing Directors: Jens Begemann, Philipp M=C3=B6ser, Jan Miczaika > On 02 Jun 2016, at 15:56 , Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 626, Issue 4, Message: 3 > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:08:19 +0100 RW = wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:58:28 +1000 (EST) >> Ian Smith wrote: > [..] >>> Also, none of the others (here) need daemon(8) to run, in background >>> or otherwise .. are you sure that you require its functionality for >>> 'foo'? >>=20 >> Most daemons were written as such. daemon(8) is there for those that >> weren't or were written in a scripting language that doesn't support >> the double fork.=20 >=20 > Ah right, fair enough and thanks. >=20 >>> For one thing, it seems that daemon keeps the -p pidfile locked >>> during execution of the process; might that affect service status, >>> stop, etc? >>=20 >> I think the problem is pretty straightforward. If you run this >>=20 >> read _pid _junk < $_pidfile >>=20 >> and $_pidfile doesn't end in a newline, read will wait for one, just = as >> it would if you typed in a line and didn't hit return. >=20 > But it doesn't wait on 9.3 stable of last October at least with this=20= > small set of pidfiles, some with & some without trailing newline, = thus: >=20 > % cat ~/bin/pidtest.sh > #!/bin/sh > # 2/6/16 re RW's msg in questions@ > for _pidfile in /var/run/*.pid; do > echo $_pidfile > hd $_pidfile | head -1 > read _pid _junk < $_pidfile > echo "_pid: '$_pid' _junk: '$_junk'" > done > echo done >=20 > root@x200:~ # pidtest.sh > /var/run/consolekit.pid > 00000000 39 31 31 0a |911.| > _pid: '911' _junk: '' > /var/run/cron.pid > 00000000 38 35 31 |851| > _pid: '851' _junk: '' > /var/run/devd.pid > 00000000 34 32 37 |427| > _pid: '427' _junk: '' > /var/run/dhclient.em0.pid > 00000000 33 34 38 |348| > _pid: '348' _junk: '' > /var/run/moused.pid > 00000000 37 31 39 |719| > _pid: '719' _junk: '' > /var/run/ntpd.pid > 00000000 36 39 32 |692| > _pid: '692' _junk: '' > /var/run/powerd.pid > 00000000 36 39 35 |695| > _pid: '695' _junk: '' > /var/run/sendmail.pid > 00000000 38 32 34 0a 2f 75 73 72 2f 73 62 69 6e 2f 73 65 = |824./usr/sbin/se| > _pid: '824' _junk: '' > /var/run/sshd.pid > 00000000 38 30 31 0a |801.| > _pid: '801' _junk: '' > /var/run/syslog.pid > 00000000 35 39 30 |590| > _pid: '590' _junk: '' > done >=20 > No ptoblem interactively either; one of each (that non-root can read): >=20 > $ read _pid _junk < /var/run/ntpd.pid > $ echo $_pid > 692 > $ echo $_junk >=20 > $ read _pid _junk < /var/run/sshd.pid > $ echo $_pid > 801 > $ echo $_junk >=20 > So maybe this issue is something new(er) in FreeBSD somewhere? >=20 > cheers, Ian (please cc me, digests can take a day) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 08:51:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3DEB65733 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF971ED8 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:50:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b8kp6-000N5Q-Fn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:51:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:51:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Message-Id: <20160603095114.403943a7ec82c83472130af1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:51:38 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:19:09 +0200 Luca Ferrari wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:49 PM, jungle Boogie > wrote: > > On 1 June 2016 at 01:35, Luca Ferrari wrote: > >> > >> Any suggestion? > > > > > > Obviously the first choice is zfs snapshots but if you're like me, > > that's not a choice. > > > > I'd recommend something like borg backup: > > https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/ > > http://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ > > Thanks to all. > Effectively ZFS is a kind of too much for my poor USB disks, also > because I would like to have them a little more portable than ZFS will > give me (I'm not aware of any commercial media center able to read > from a ZFS storage). > I will give a try to rsnapshot and borg. One thought for you - perhaps keep the master copy under ZFS for snapshots and corruption protection and use rsnapshot or borg to copy to more portable copies for use. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 08:55:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4738AB65AD2 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien.cigar@gmail.com) Received: from relay-b03.edpnet.be (relay-b03.edpnet.be [212.71.1.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B3CF12DD for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien.cigar@gmail.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1464943123-0a88185110f5eec0001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [109.236.137.241]) by relay-b03.edpnet.be with ESMTP id l5EmPYTgFTQ5p38i (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:38:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien.cigar@gmail.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[109.236.137.241] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 109.236.137.241 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: redundant storage Message-ID: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: redundant storage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUvfsPTz/SzOZDdw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Barracuda-Connect: 109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[109.236.137.241] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1464943124 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.220:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 993 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.5000 1.0000 0.0000 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.30136 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:55:30 -0000 --fUvfsPTz/SzOZDdw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our (small) team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files generated by some webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) server, etc. For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned to buy 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with=20 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer=20 (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes will=20 be exported through NFS4. Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) Thanks! Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --fUvfsPTz/SzOZDdw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJXUUIQAAoJELK7NxCiBCPA3gUQAKQWTEaBlr915mWxtaZ1wyJP LNr6jYpz+CCV4Bf1ymJGnzNWtTOhUR3UvNYWmJvupDvMcw+UAUKljvpMHpC0Frge SLSHsMYOhKf9DRh+HdmUMWaOAdByI59pR76UEH6GQJXtILSypa/nrfU/+e3LgmSW HaQGn897bIrEfaiBOPA5xBfkDQbR+DOOkyUT2h9cKJi2IpxYnEpFUNzgHn0+yeco Dk5G+uO4MgHZAGrwfNZor7baw1NlXikozOqWXae+DRmizquAyxyo1fZlzku1c9cz YUTpd65ZK8Qi5+nn8MWrPtbRbMCsFvuRcNcx72BUcpj1o1dRwKkIwc4lYdjitjNx xlmoQx3ys6QspwADd0szru5UhJ51AW+ce2vX68RLsrQ3x8zJK77hZRZ3sNuWPIbf prCyex0MwjBJ6eS2JDYPxx+3Xyr3s1WON2Jtzg0nna9fAHerLoWDsQ2ooxkyCA8F d47QRnSbb2i54cmSKr/vQ4XFswV5G1L3s0SYcFFodJCD8zWSZD/cPNoZ9ykkUf9K KGEzBt7tLwhbHTq7LmtiE6IB630O2xY1SDAZGSbvZQBWOlnjy7VHMNpO4Bn06qt4 U7icvzQcjhI5jYFUE3FPRsKoc3saYXoBySjpLZcTuop025n4ElYaSu79dleDf2uw m/UQRdwggUapjrPaNQrc =xb0P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUvfsPTz/SzOZDdw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 09:43:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9CBB660EF for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A3A1B1F for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:41:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b8lbs-000Oqw-9Q; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 09:41:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:41:38 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Julien Cigar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redundant storage Message-Id: <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> References: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 09:43:22 -0000 Hi, Just one change - don't use RAID1 use ZFS mirrors. ZFS does better RAID than any hardware controller. On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our (small) > team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files generated by some > webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) server, etc. > > For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned to buy > 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with > 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer > (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 > controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) > > On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes will > be exported through NFS4. > > Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) > > Thanks! > Julien > -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 10:09:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D01FB66AC4; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from degoeje.nl (degoeje.nl [81.169.238.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245B41878; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.250] (unknown [188.203.228.182]) by degoeje.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BD4115C0025; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:09:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: CLOCK_MONOTONIC / CLOCK_UPTIME is not really monotonic between threads To: Maxim Sobolev , FreeBSD Current , freebsd-threads@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: From: Pieter de Goeje Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:09:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on degoeje.nl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:09:48 -0000 Op 2016-06-03 om 06:16 schreef Maxim Sobolev: > 4. If the answer for (3) is yes, then what is the method to disable using > TSC and use slower but possibly more reliable method? sysctl kern.timecounter.choice lists the available timers. sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware selects the timer. Changes take effect immediately. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 10:14:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC00B66EC5 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien.cigar@gmail.com) Received: from relay-b03.edpnet.be (relay-b03.edpnet.be [212.71.1.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CA551FFE for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien.cigar@gmail.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1464948886-0a88182e0ca5ac70001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [109.236.137.241]) by relay-b03.edpnet.be with ESMTP id 2d9nhHttF0uBEqGP (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:14:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien.cigar@gmail.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[109.236.137.241] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 109.236.137.241 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:14:46 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redundant storage Message-ID: <20160603101446.GM95511@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: redundant storage References: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6CiRFyVmOOJ3DkBX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Barracuda-Connect: 109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[109.236.137.241] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1464948887 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.220:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1587 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.5000 1.0000 0.0000 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.30138 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:14:51 -0000 --6CiRFyVmOOJ3DkBX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:41:38AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Just one change - don't use RAID1 use ZFS mirrors. ZFS does better > RAID than any hardware controller. right.. I must admit that I haven't looked at ZFS yet (I'm still using UFS + gmirror), but it will be the opportunity to do so..! Does ZFS play well with HAST? >=20 > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 > Julien Cigar wrote: >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our (small) > > team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files generated by some > > webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) server, etc. > >=20 > > For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned to buy > > 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with=20 > > 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer=20 > > (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 > > controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) > >=20 > > On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes will= =20 > > be exported through NFS4. > >=20 > > Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) > >=20 > > Thanks! > > Julien > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Steve O'Hara-Smith >=20 --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --6CiRFyVmOOJ3DkBX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJXUViTAAoJELK7NxCiBCPA/fQQAMmlsWXK24Kp0CyMWmhA55DT PVmZNSplj8HrlXdbxNtnPMPTYbIfwRxDcK9Ii7mySfE3z37vgdQCsNqTRFPnOOQ2 iSO34oIZAZC05oEX7wCjpwY2nPfQo4z0Di5EHwLhbtW5R0ATuRbW927f3mZFpeOp zuIcCnUyUXbAuVY2sZ3CfzYGvmDJdOJRjUlvv/jtPezKoR+5yFb/lYmmcW3ZuOjh uZAZ0qH0yqkPSHNFbPwZPeUNQJZJZ3EMmpYdKIi8DBEpn/QQEivvQZnufnvIezVQ 5T12X8pqAvSpv5PdxjKHlPuqlujOjnmK5ZdwR0QSumti/FPoIq9K1cNV2pxtKFDT FvmPbeQB9v3dkwWBnTUn5NgcydP1WnK260CuV6bbJ5TjKqZoiYr6fY9WEF+OPthK 3B1r/Hc1rEmay3mp6klUDr7gfDiIO7sV45qGbUGh0SCuEdLrGg8g9uc0OT6lJlFA zB8LMa3mQfpeHK+tfEmKz7t0q0rnVd7q1NerVmH0pXceytH/gyVtGE4Q7lB/UQ+h 7PrSnIZSdg7XoyWij8XL7kWQFrfH2ljSTTme/pE3v4wqN006H9nl30j6pAwuT/uy Bg0rIXpRyzLmuGcQ0ZJJmjCQaulehEfqaQGdk5/WOCei8P82p64PaTbuVAHrYzBf snIQIbAbsnLQeu+UTTvJ =ZpkA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6CiRFyVmOOJ3DkBX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 10:48:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE9EB68AE7 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294B2188A for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:47:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b8mds-000PKQ-UH; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:47:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:47:46 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Julien Cigar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redundant storage Message-Id: <20160603114746.6b75e6e79ecd51fe14311e40@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20160603101446.GM95511@mordor.lan> References: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> <20160603101446.GM95511@mordor.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:48:04 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:14:46 +0200 Julien Cigar wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:41:38AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just one change - don't use RAID1 use ZFS mirrors. ZFS does > > better RAID than any hardware controller. > > right.. I must admit that I haven't looked at ZFS yet (I'm still using > UFS + gmirror), but it will be the opportunity to do so..! > > Does ZFS play well with HAST? Never tried it but it should work well enough, ZFS sits on top of geom providers so it should be possible to use the pool on the primary. One concern would be that since all reads come from local storage the secondary machine never gets scrubbed and silent corruption never gets detected on the secondary. A periodic (say weekly) switch over and scrub takes care of this concern. Silent corruption is rare, but the bigger the pool and the longer it's used the more likely it is to happen eventually, detection and repair of this is one of ZFSs advantages over hardware RAID so it's good not to defeat it. Drive failures on the primary will wind up causing both the primary and the secondary to be rewritten when the drive is replaced - this could probably be avoided by switching primaries and letting HAST deal with the replacement. Another very minor issue would be that any corrective rewrites (for detected corruption) will happen on both copies but that's harmless and there really should be *very* few of these. One final concern, but it's HAST purely and not really ZFS. Writing a large file flat out will likely saturate your LAN with half the capacity going to copying the data for HAST. A private backend link between the two boxes would be a good idea (or 10 gigabit ethernet). > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 > > Julien Cigar wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our > > > (small) team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files > > > generated by some webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) > > > server, etc. > > > > > > For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned to buy > > > 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with > > > 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer > > > (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 > > > controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) > > > > > > On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes > > > will be exported through NFS4. > > > > > > Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Julien > > > > > > > > > -- > > Steve O'Hara-Smith > > > -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 12:10:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B24B51CB0 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien.cigar@gmail.com) Received: from relay-b02.edpnet.be (relay-b02.edpnet.be [212.71.1.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63C2716C4 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien.cigar@gmail.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1464954620-0a7b8d120f2676b30001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [109.236.137.241]) by relay-b02.edpnet.be with ESMTP id wWmxPTCSj0UsGraU (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:50:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien.cigar@gmail.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[109.236.137.241] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 109.236.137.241 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:50:20 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redundant storage Message-ID: <20160603115020.GN95511@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: redundant storage References: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> <20160603101446.GM95511@mordor.lan> <20160603114746.6b75e6e79ecd51fe14311e40@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SgT04PEqo/+yUDw3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160603114746.6b75e6e79ecd51fe14311e40@sohara.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Barracuda-Connect: 109.236.137.241.wls.msr91gkk3.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[109.236.137.241] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1464954620 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.222:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 4193 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Evidence: sohara.org X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.5000 1.0000 0.0000 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.30140 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:10:47 -0000 --SgT04PEqo/+yUDw3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:47:46AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:14:46 +0200 > Julien Cigar wrote: >=20 > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:41:38AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > Hi, > > >=20 > > > Just one change - don't use RAID1 use ZFS mirrors. ZFS does > > > better RAID than any hardware controller. > >=20 > > right.. I must admit that I haven't looked at ZFS yet (I'm still using > > UFS + gmirror), but it will be the opportunity to do so..! > >=20 > > Does ZFS play well with HAST? >=20 > Never tried it but it should work well enough, ZFS sits on top of > geom providers so it should be possible to use the pool on the primary. >=20 > One concern would be that since all reads come from local storage > the secondary machine never gets scrubbed and silent corruption never gets > detected on the secondary. A periodic (say weekly) switch over and scrub > takes care of this concern. Silent corruption is rare, but the bigger the > pool and the longer it's used the more likely it is to happen eventually, > detection and repair of this is one of ZFSs advantages over hardware RAID > so it's good not to defeat it. Thanks, I'll read a bit on ZFS this week-end ..! My ultimate goal would be that the HAST storage survives an hard reboot/ unplugged network cable/... during an heavy I/O write, and that the switch between the two nodes is transparent to the clients, without any data loss of course ... feasible or utopian? Needless to say that what=20 I want to avoid at all cost is that the storage becomes corrupted and unrecoverable..! >=20 > Drive failures on the primary will wind up causing both the primary > and the secondary to be rewritten when the drive is replaced - this could > probably be avoided by switching primaries and letting HAST deal with the > replacement. >=20 > Another very minor issue would be that any corrective rewrites (for > detected corruption) will happen on both copies but that's harmless and > there really should be *very* few of these. >=20 > One final concern, but it's HAST purely and not really ZFS. Writing > a large file flat out will likely saturate your LAN with half the capacity > going to copying the data for HAST. A private backend link between the two > boxes would be a good idea (or 10 gigabit ethernet). yep, that's what I had in mind..! one nic for the replication between the two HAST node, and one (CARP) nic by which clients access to storage.. >=20 > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 > > > Julien Cigar wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Hello, > > > >=20 > > > > I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our > > > > (small) team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files > > > > generated by some webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) > > > > server, etc. > > > >=20 > > > > For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned to = buy > > > > 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with=20 > > > > 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer=20 > > > > (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 > > > > controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) > > > >=20 > > > > On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes > > > > will be exported through NFS4. > > > >=20 > > > > Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) > > > >=20 > > > > Thanks! > > > > Julien > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > --=20 > > > Steve O'Hara-Smith > > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays > C:>WIN | A better way to focus the s= un > The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see > You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ >=20 --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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[92.111.79.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a195sm40713657wma.2.2016.06.03.05.13.52 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 05:13:53 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Johan Hendriks Subject: User login information on console Message-ID: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:13:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:13:55 -0000 Hello all. If someone logs in and su to root, then there is a line printed on the first console. Is it possible to print this to all logged in root users with a ssh session? regards Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 13:01:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D83B68CBC for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f171.google.com (mail-io0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 703CA105E for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id t40so73977611ioi.0 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 06:01:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=yqtPqc9JWp8MYRwE7iOS73nD0hm+bCfUO0a2YENrmYs=; b=ZmP1QYES3wPe1QJweWaU8Hp6qQ8atJtAcJ3PoA1a6k0ibRq84Tkt0aoo1ss8Ca+PFH VkCRVw3zgJ8l70mB1o1YmZ92apnqkK04PtryfZ6gp0Vi7zpMO+0CCs3ot1C14GAtQctO 3/wlAVrE2TaWNloEm98YROZGR7HA8IHg8FMkeVPZkpHV/C3Ugfl7clPS3TCsocAeIy6+ 5XKagmX28T17rXCvYrMzwvchZSsCnLVAQO24kqt5wbT2D3al1ByTwK0VNpZ1DYBHg0YM h0ejcSKCXsOKYvs/TNwMS0xYuBP/k8n4Vsa+n3WId0SPGWXeJCnx2fcy6FM9ZYiZinzO Pl5g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL7Q/Ui3S4A2hmK2KxRqTNJ/UYKzpW6MicGcSlKezxP1YT0KWYrd9hXYzVvtpwKLg== X-Received: by 10.107.35.66 with SMTP id j63mr5312564ioj.4.1464958571984; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-128-37.mpls.qwest.net. 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Wandersee To: Johan Hendriks Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User login information on console In-reply-to: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 07:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <86fusumnx1.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:01:24 -0000 Johan Hendriks writes: > Hello all. > > If someone logs in and su to root, then there is a line printed on the > first console. > Is it possible to print this to all logged in root users with a ssh session? > Would you mind sharing more details about your situation, and what your goal and resons for wanting this are? It sounds like you're placing an exceptional amount of trust in a lot of people. All privileged log-ins are recorded in /var/log/auth.log, so that's a good place to start if you want to track privileged log-ins. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 13:24:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05824B68286 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CCEB1CE5 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u53DOS9I085115 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:24:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u53DOSAE085112; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:24:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:24:28 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Johan Hendriks cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User login information on console In-Reply-To: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:24:39 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:13+0200, Johan Hendriks wrote: > Is it possible to print this to all logged in root users with a ssh session? See the examples in syslog.conf(8). -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 13:27:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70689B68460 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07DB01E86 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u53DRPPa085175 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:27:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u53DRPUT085172; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:27:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:27:25 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Johan Hendriks cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User login information on console In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:27:33 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:24+0200, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:13+0200, Johan Hendriks wrote: > > > Is it possible to print this to all logged in root users with a ssh session? > > See the examples in syslog.conf(8). 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 14:28:33 -0000 a. multiple cores. b. makes no difference c. yes, I believe so kern.timecounter.tsc_shift: 1 kern.timecounter.smp_tsc_adjust: 0 kern.timecounter.smp_tsc: 1 kern.timecounter.invariant_tsc: 1 machdep.tsc_freq: 2658118740 machdep.disable_tsc_calibration: 0 machdep.disable_tsc: 0 d. no, single socket Intel Q6700. I've also seen this problem on core i7-4770 running virtualbox 5.x. I have a hints that this also happens on our bigger production boxes, but I have no specifics yet. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > [snip] > > a) is it on one core, or multiple cores? > b) CLOCK_MONOTONIC_FAST? > c) is it on a system that /has/ invariant-TSC ? > d) is this a multi-socket system? > > > > -adrian > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 14:34:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803CCB68970 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E3011CE for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 0F96CCB8CB5; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:34:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <61821.128.135.52.6.1464964464.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20160603115020.GN95511@mordor.lan> References: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> <20160603101446.GM95511@mordor.lan> <20160603114746.6b75e6e79ecd51fe14311e40@sohara.org> <20160603115020.GN95511@mordor.lan> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:34:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: redundant storage From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Julien Cigar" Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 14:34:26 -0000 On Fri, June 3, 2016 6:50 am, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:47:46AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:14:46 +0200 >> Julien Cigar wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:41:38AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > Just one change - don't use RAID1 use ZFS mirrors. ZFS does >> > > better RAID than any hardware controller. >> > >> > right.. I must admit that I haven't looked at ZFS yet (I'm still using >> > UFS + gmirror), but it will be the opportunity to do so..! >> > >> > Does ZFS play well with HAST? >> >> Never tried it but it should work well enough, ZFS sits on top of >> geom providers so it should be possible to use the pool on the primary. >> >> One concern would be that since all reads come from local storage >> the secondary machine never gets scrubbed and silent corruption never >> gets >> detected on the secondary. A periodic (say weekly) switch over and scrub >> takes care of this concern. Silent corruption is rare, but the bigger >> the >> pool and the longer it's used the more likely it is to happen >> eventually, >> detection and repair of this is one of ZFSs advantages over hardware >> RAID >> so it's good not to defeat it. > > Thanks, I'll read a bit on ZFS this week-end ..! > > My ultimate goal would be that the HAST storage survives an hard reboot/ > unplugged network cable/... during an heavy I/O write, and that the > switch between the two nodes is transparent to the clients, without any > data loss of course ... feasible or utopian? Needless to say that what > I want to avoid at all cost is that the storage becomes corrupted and > unrecoverable..! Sounds pretty much like distributed file system solution. I tried one (moosefs) which I gave up on, and after I asked (on this list) for advise about other options, next candidate for me emerged: glusterfs, which I hadn't chance to set up yet. You may want to search this list archives, those were really good advises that experts gave me. Valeri > >> >> Drive failures on the primary will wind up causing both the primary >> and the secondary to be rewritten when the drive is replaced - this >> could >> probably be avoided by switching primaries and letting HAST deal with >> the >> replacement. >> >> Another very minor issue would be that any corrective rewrites (for >> detected corruption) will happen on both copies but that's harmless and >> there really should be *very* few of these. >> >> One final concern, but it's HAST purely and not really ZFS. Writing >> a large file flat out will likely saturate your LAN with half the >> capacity >> going to copying the data for HAST. A private backend link between the >> two >> boxes would be a good idea (or 10 gigabit ethernet). > > yep, that's what I had in mind..! one nic for the replication between > the two HAST node, and one (CARP) nic by which clients access to > storage.. > >> >> > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 >> > > Julien Cigar wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hello, >> > > > >> > > > I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our >> > > > (small) team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files >> > > > generated by some webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) >> > > > server, etc. >> > > > >> > > > For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned to >> buy >> > > > 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with >> > > > 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer >> > > > (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 >> > > > controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) >> > > > >> > > > On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes >> > > > will be exported through NFS4. >> > > > >> > > > Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) >> > > > >> > > > Thanks! >> > > > Julien >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Steve O'Hara-Smith >> > > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays >> C:>WIN | A better way to focus the >> sun >> The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see >> You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ >> > > -- > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 15:01:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A92FB690DB for ; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 09:34:24AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >=20 > On Fri, June 3, 2016 6:50 am, Julien Cigar wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:47:46AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:14:46 +0200 > >> Julien Cigar wrote: > >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:41:38AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> > > Hi, > >> > > > >> > > Just one change - don't use RAID1 use ZFS mirrors. ZFS does > >> > > better RAID than any hardware controller. > >> > > >> > right.. I must admit that I haven't looked at ZFS yet (I'm still usi= ng > >> > UFS + gmirror), but it will be the opportunity to do so..! > >> > > >> > Does ZFS play well with HAST? > >> > >> Never tried it but it should work well enough, ZFS sits on top of > >> geom providers so it should be possible to use the pool on the primary. > >> > >> One concern would be that since all reads come from local storage > >> the secondary machine never gets scrubbed and silent corruption never > >> gets > >> detected on the secondary. A periodic (say weekly) switch over and scr= ub > >> takes care of this concern. Silent corruption is rare, but the bigger > >> the > >> pool and the longer it's used the more likely it is to happen > >> eventually, > >> detection and repair of this is one of ZFSs advantages over hardware > >> RAID > >> so it's good not to defeat it. > > > > Thanks, I'll read a bit on ZFS this week-end ..! > > > > My ultimate goal would be that the HAST storage survives an hard reboot/ > > unplugged network cable/... during an heavy I/O write, and that the > > switch between the two nodes is transparent to the clients, without any > > data loss of course ... feasible or utopian? Needless to say that what > > I want to avoid at all cost is that the storage becomes corrupted and > > unrecoverable..! >=20 > Sounds pretty much like distributed file system solution. I tried one > (moosefs) which I gave up on, and after I asked (on this list) for advise > about other options, next candidate for me emerged: glusterfs, which I > hadn't chance to set up yet. You may want to search this list archives, > those were really good advises that experts gave me. sorry but: I avoid distributed FS like the plague :) >=20 > Valeri >=20 > > > >> > >> Drive failures on the primary will wind up causing both the primary > >> and the secondary to be rewritten when the drive is replaced - this > >> could > >> probably be avoided by switching primaries and letting HAST deal with > >> the > >> replacement. > >> > >> Another very minor issue would be that any corrective rewrites (for > >> detected corruption) will happen on both copies but that's harmless and > >> there really should be *very* few of these. > >> > >> One final concern, but it's HAST purely and not really ZFS. Writing > >> a large file flat out will likely saturate your LAN with half the > >> capacity > >> going to copying the data for HAST. A private backend link between the > >> two > >> boxes would be a good idea (or 10 gigabit ethernet). > > > > yep, that's what I had in mind..! one nic for the replication between > > the two HAST node, and one (CARP) nic by which clients access to > > storage.. > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:43 +0200 > >> > > Julien Cigar wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Hello, > >> > > > > >> > > > I'm looking for a low-cost redundant HA storage solution for our > >> > > > (small) team here (~30 people). It will be used to store files > >> > > > generated by some webapps, to provide a redundant dovecot (imap) > >> > > > server, etc. > >> > > > > >> > > > For the hardware I have to go with HP (no choice), so I planned = to > >> buy > >> > > > 2 x HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 v2 E3-1241v3 (768645-421) with > >> > > > 4 x WD Hard Drive Re SATA 4TB 3.5in 6gb/s 7200rpm 64MB Buffer > >> > > > (WD4000FYYZ) in a RAID1 config (the machine has a smartarray P222 > >> > > > controller, which is apparently supported by the ciss driver) > >> > > > > >> > > > On the FreeBSD side I plan to use HAST with CARP, and the volumes > >> > > > will be exported through NFS4. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any comments on this setup (or other recommendations) ? :) > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks! > >> > > > Julien > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Steve O'Hara-Smith > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arra= ys > >> C:>WIN | A better way to focus the > >> sun > >> The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see > >> You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ > >> > > > > -- > > Julien Cigar > > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > >=20 >=20 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --Zfao1/4IORAeFOVj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJXUZu9AAoJELK7NxCiBCPAtKkP/17yPdnVNZ3nPpRnZrOp/mWp rlRXanexejYcEJm0aRjfG0l1aWUivVGu6Q/+5KXWsK5fy5oMWkrMLVGq333adS69 E1t+a0hovRWs6gKAQNKpeATO99112QCFHghjJgeH1NSutok1tSAJrjLRsyXg+3SN t029iFK6T2snZFpTCsBozJKuOFAOryUQ6AnFPIi+WFkj5wAL/ydOCziKM/90W6U3 R0JxDAwteCeFXXorMFQbV8dXEJInZISdWusEl94LN3th3GaOrr+aUzO3WfN3RpE4 RDBpnUIaCacYyV2LHgTvIJSD2HZfQf5VkJR692eC/JbsRf+Xzb3gfJUGjXOgJb64 WO1r5T+9PiL31+P4cQXtGug3u/KdrjFND5K6qbrJf5ZCAsrcbLRSydUD+2MLjxaK Y/oGkgYp0M4kroXHv8TFlmsiPlfVk3vDed2EnkKzvaQLLXPqGeLNyChmK932SrzE emMQBdWR+Y+2SLEZOtSPp1T8L5bHscA8RC2Zt70X5X8N/byBaLBalf2ipYgp302H F2aXZatBOo+g9jQBWCXc/KsW/AXJRFxzChAHJktNw+2t2NQBMjC9KVNbuIuzm6II TOZTMj5Zr3CH9VtBO5swCCLhnYJGugmqWB+xaNQ5Cnmr2yV8U2bEwKEfaC1jnKe8 9zJgyigdPYag68iw5fla =3rDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Zfao1/4IORAeFOVj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 15:14:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D29EB694C4 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EBD1FBD for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:13:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1b8qne-00018N-2k; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:14:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:14:07 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Julien Cigar Cc: Valeri Galtsev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redundant storage Message-Id: <20160603161407.8224f918813be604587fd257@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20160603150120.GP95511@mordor.lan> References: <20160603083843.GK95511@mordor.lan> <20160603104138.fdf3c0ac4be93769be6da401@sohara.org> <20160603101446.GM95511@mordor.lan> <20160603114746.6b75e6e79ecd51fe14311e40@sohara.org> <20160603115020.GN95511@mordor.lan> <61821.128.135.52.6.1464964464.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160603150120.GP95511@mordor.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:14:27 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:01:20 +0200 Julien Cigar wrote: > sorry but: I avoid distributed FS like the plague :) The only one I'd rely on is commercial and far from cheap, also I work on it so I'm not going to plug (or even name) it here. I have high hopes for HAMMER-2 but I'm not holding my breath for Matt to finish it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 15:50:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB238B69D85 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B73165E for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id i127so1459529ita.1 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PxACsQoM9vVBhQ7vfLpezKKiWC94L46dMDpVZmzvpeo=; b=FuE5uO5U/bKlbdkQtzYZqfJ41eGlbIrYp6Y6O1rEid33GsUzKBU6SYVFwbZx6We5e+ I8EJ+FAkvBSaQ9RXir48J150PLAFOGwYwQkXYV+qVJz9Qgm3315bryhiycXahP7QUBI+ awarpE11+5olo/IROXbYre+vzit+raaZ0nqV6UTmh0yVMS5K8MeSHBmcf2FFHvVpaSUP HGq+yTMTMGkcnJ+FYLnRRF63XSlULJU7kGFjWcdzmDgy6y8vyFMllhVnSBkA0049lcnv iaQXQKmbRWbQmenLSrps7knuiOMNXv2BSxZjZJZ243aLPccJ9GkWExfCO/J9HJ1ye+YE ThMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=PxACsQoM9vVBhQ7vfLpezKKiWC94L46dMDpVZmzvpeo=; b=IOD57D57lFiXSe4EMHYSSQFAv0jiP8cgqbw3XwQPoaxnOBX02HNullMkL6KM4CCL23 pV0e136cp2xpbm1mpatUx8vtOxh2JtZKMP1+x6n59KQqX091avPuKJy5P2rxG6Fyr3Pv EzvFgEemqho1RwFHsGHqQ7QvH2FUUfrDHUjeSqPJrGkTvevOWrDg9F40iaaUwfxEMCAa XFPHN0C4w01SQKyuq4DWThR4Te5bycCEbhswQ18l+abuw6NP5XU7B6L1sTBJFD4XhCdT m2Q6JgQwwV4A8BgeQ6ioAjuJh7oNAA9CpexS3j43jt4YGw+IlIL/yAdLqmIY1sh9dydi uN4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLZ7D1XPwxuX+0uNbT5lUK1kPKG9JhSUtFvEKLzgiafSLUjJmB8m94v0uEHWrI4P24xay5UDiWq13RlWg== X-Received: by 10.36.149.137 with SMTP id m131mr337333itd.94.1464969024848; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:50:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.164.78 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:50:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160603080937.GD57978@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> References: <20160603080937.GD57978@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> From: jungle Boogie Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:50:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:50:25 -0000 Hi Niklaas, On 3 June 2016 at 01:09, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > jungle Boogie [2016-06-02 07:49 -0700] : > >> I'd recommend something like borg backup: >> https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/ >> http://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ >> >> It's a python written app that will dedup your data so there's a >> chance it can compress and dedup your large datasets very nicely. > > This look impressive. Have you ever compared it to duplicity (which is > my current choice for backups)? > I haven't but I recommend trying borg on your data to see how it works for you. Here's a very simple backup script that gives you an idea of what it does: http://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/quickstart.html#automating-backups > Niklaas -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 19:06:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D91B69DE0 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: from zaph.org (zaph.org [199.48.132.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "zaph.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29DDA18C6 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: by zaph.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3300D497E13; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:06:17 -0700 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Message-ID: <20160603190617.GR42477@ayvali.org> References: <20160601173909.GB97464@ayvali.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160601173909.GB97464@ayvali.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 19:06:25 -0000 * N.J. Thomas [2016-06-01 10:39:09-0700]: > If you don't have these stored on ZFS filesystems, then check out > rsnapshot as an alternative: > > http://rsnapshot.org/ There was a story on HackerNews about rsnapshot yesterday, the discussion was informative: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11817701 Several rsnapshot alternatives came up during that discussion Attic - https://attic-backup.org/ Borg - https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ Obnam - http://obnam.org/ Just fyi. Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 03:29:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF68B69299 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 852B21665 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id z87so16360087wmh.0 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:29:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:subject:to:references:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tKlFIoyaN2qW5vfsKWWSQe0wAdcj996ln1rLLBRVJ/E=; b=fXaz9Id+IH2SG7r3tCUU06r2gWHwgQ9mFBd0tNqBkQzkllBDTRbvdmh1QNARfyv6Pg hYSl2YdDKUBA4QN9nuLVFGAfZz52fPGO/ZJ9WMjAryuEwD/53Zo72fzdl469nHtXPKIi vuj/4SSjhPUsi7eH+fDHi+Z0nKaap1eeqMZaGoigWTMsbNsxfKIbTTT4KFpNVhu9ASCH AU1ug4ni/iq+e8wUQaK3jNl3FKHHGPygO1lM9Ib0Fq1GeXWt4Z3ttjoiQRU9T8YY44rz uEMJy6PldvyZj/asvTdV9BPL93Bne9Ijt8GX+JMFTYn3DQMfH6f6YoECYGtRVBZP2qL5 5PKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tKlFIoyaN2qW5vfsKWWSQe0wAdcj996ln1rLLBRVJ/E=; b=mBnmBgtkCe0LjMMPbHj8SG3NHM3wPD8JzBs2NzP0k1E7SvfNkzFU/zJ8/gwBmOuaAy FucgGM/eS+rhIY0lN1Mu6oLxk8uP0I9r6f9CW4MDvgVGR5x/uOdxtBqgOBXvUYIdYDpo eDVsFfAITnKSRbPBKkcr+OTaqluzav1MfZq282/uaPyRwIg0Akfg6CmNpMHQiszMD0sL BUyL8ZiKdGeUCgy8d0SkgGGxMnLi2CidTp3RgIvimgj0RksNs4kHMdzvoTc6hcuWM3mO EtUcxdOdQd1LrM2QEKFsjVaidAqfTKDf+tnl8Bm/ze9YN/iHX425rPymBUN82Qa5SMKJ cgiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKK0K4R+Jcip7bxrKqz0M/ndlHaowkg4wXJKugkCINd6Bkxc9pM+DM6UTPYAAOBMQ== X-Received: by 10.194.147.131 with SMTP id tk3mr6586998wjb.100.1465010959886; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Johans-MacBook-Air.local (92-111-79-242.static.chello.nl. [92.111.79.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m8sm8505472wjd.34.2016.06.03.20.29.19 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Johan Hendriks Subject: Re: User login information on console To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> Message-ID: <614f99ac-6367-d2c3-5893-089aea3047fb@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:29:21 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 03:29:23 -0000 Thank you for your time. I added that line to my /root/.cshrc file, but it does not work if I add set watch = (0 root any). The users use bash, root uses csh. If I add set watch = (any any) it only prints the users already loggen on, no notifications are send when a new user su to root like below. [johan@desk ~]$ su Password: johanh has logged on pts/0 from 123.124.123.2.provider.nl johanh has logged on pts/1 from 123.124.123.2.provider.nl johanh has logged on pts/2 from 123.124.123.2.provider.nl [root@desk ~]# This is FreeBSD 10.2 amd64 btw regards Johan Op 04/06/16 om 00:07 schreef Felix Friedlander: > If you’re using csh/tcsh, then `set watch = (0 root any)’ will notify you when someone logs in or out as root. Assuming root’s shell is still (t)csh, you could put that line in /root/.cshrc to apply it for all root logins. > >> On 3 Jun 2016, at 22:13, Johan Hendriks wrote: >> >> Hello all. >> >> If someone logs in and su to root, then there is a line printed on the >> first console. >> Is it possible to print this to all logged in root users with a ssh session? >> >> regards >> Johan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 03:40:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B644B6964A for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 101101C41 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:40:45 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: Which Perl 5 works best on FreeBSD 10.1? Message-ID: <57524DCA.1060006@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:40:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 03:40:49 -0000 freebsd-questions: I am building a FreeBSD 10.1 computer and would like to install Perl 5. Several ports are available: 2016-06-03 20:29:31 toor@p42800e ~ # pkg search perl | egrep ^perl5 perl5-5.20.3_13 Practical Extraction and Report Language perl5-devel-5.25.1.91 Practical Extraction and Report Language perl5.18-5.18.4_22 Practical Extraction and Report Language perl5.22-5.22.2_1 Practical Extraction and Report Language perl5.24-5.24.0 Practical Extraction and Report Language I've heard of perlbrew, but have never tried it. I don't see a FreeBSD package, but I do see a port (that wants perl5-5.20.3_13): https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=perlbrew&stype=all&sektion=all What is the best way to get a robust Perl 5 installation on FreeBSD 10.1? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 05:59:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316A4B6938D for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE5F21272 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b94c5-0003lT-DZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:59:13 +0200 Received: from ppp-49-237-153-68.revip6.asianet.co.th ([49.237.153.68]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:59:13 +0200 Received: from loki by ppp-49-237-153-68.revip6.asianet.co.th with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:59:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Oliver Briscbois Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 12:53:30 +0700 Organization: Zapto Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <20160601173909.GB97464@ayvali.org> <20160603190617.GR42477@ayvali.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-49-237-153-68.revip6.asianet.co.th User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.3-10/co (FreeBSD-11.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 05:59:24 -0000 On 2016-06-03, N.J. Thomas wrote: > There was a story on HackerNews about rsnapshot yesterday, the > discussion was informative: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11817701 > > Several rsnapshot alternatives came up during that discussion > > Attic - https://attic-backup.org/ > Borg - https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ > Obnam - http://obnam.org/ Thanks for taking the time to post about that discussion on HackerNews. I found it very informative. I'm reading the documentation for borgbackup now. I've been using flexbackup with afio for several years, although I'm not recommending this to anyone. I chose afio because it deals somewhat gracefully with input data corruption, supports multi-volume archives, and its compressed archives are much safer than compressed tar or cpio archives. I've previously had to discard entire compressed backup archives where one single bit went bad. With afio, and possibly other compressed backup archives, only the affected file within the archive is lost. Some loss is better than all lost with storage media fails. I'll need to finish reading the borg docs to see how it handles errors on backup media before making a switch. http://www.edwinh.org/flexbackup/ http://members.chello.nl/~k.holtman/afio.html At first glance it seems that Attic/Borg/Obnam offer dedupliction which is far superior to that of my present flexbackup/afio solution. Due to my location all backups need to be made to local storage media usually USB first, then later to a physical HD which is removed and kept in a safe place. When time ($) permits I'll set up a local NAS server for backup storage and it'll definitely use ZFS at that time. Thanks again, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 11:09:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6C0B69EBC for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 11:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu [IPv6:2a02:2770:6:0:21a:4aff:feaa:e902]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C6C1D9D for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 11:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F1257387DF2; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:09:01 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Message-ID: <20160604110901.GG57978@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160601173909.GB97464@ayvali.org> <20160603190617.GR42477@ayvali.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160603190617.GR42477@ayvali.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 11:09:10 -0000 N.J. Thomas [2016-06-03 12:06 -0700] : > There was a story on HackerNews about rsnapshot yesterday, the > discussion was informative: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11817701 > > Several rsnapshot alternatives came up during that discussion > > Attic - https://attic-backup.org/ > Borg - https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ > Obnam - http://obnam.org/ Plus "bup" -- for the sake of completeness. I quickly read through the story and as I got it borg and attic are related while borg solved some security issue that attic has. Obnam is a different approach that has a "well documented filesystem" but can't do rolling checksums (whatever that is, there's a reference about that though). And bup is based on git. P.S.: Thanks for sharing the link! Niklaas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 11:14:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86C0B69205 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 11:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (forward1h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 461AF1229 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 11:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (smtp1h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::115]) by forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 82AD620C50 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:14:52 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5C6231340422 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:14:52 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 1t3VB6yw0M-EpMG2UQq; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 14:14:51 +0300 (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1465038891; bh=lJl7ms/x4t3TmTIrsP6I/qwd0w+a/cQi/1C6I79UlxE=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=HkLjyKYJ1Y7tUlOdOz1nchtHHv04LI2v1asRk65JZkFjxF+eptBKThI4BNpmTPlSY LPw6r/DPsXZp9Ie3SNuX9p+XGmaOev3WvAyt0Y+9wH7Dk3kQmpRy7pvuYgTsXQG/0E qIOcU1VkkWr62/wSKlLEHZicRASdZ0lrmmFcAKlU= Authentication-Results: smtp1h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 From: Stari Karp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vt console Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:14:49 -0400 Message-ID: <5524302.HdIPqapjz5@lumiwa.farm.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.3-RELEASE-p4; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 11:14:56 -0000 Hi! My system: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Sat May 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016 root@amd64- builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC I am searching still on web for the answer why I cannot have the same resolution in console as I have on KDE when I swith from KDE to console (I had on FreeBSD 10.2). In /boot/loader.conf I have: kern.vty="vt" dmesg | grep drm shows: info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 drmn0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] RADEON_IS_PCIE info: [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x944A 0x106B:0x00B5). info: [drm] register mmio base: 0xD0620000 info: [drm] register mmio size: 65536 info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: ===> Try ATRM... info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: pci_find_class() found: 0:1:0:0, vendor=1002, device=944a info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: Get ACPI device handle info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: Get ACPI handle for "ATRM" info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: Failed to get "ATRM" handle: AE_NOT_FOUND info: [drm] radeon_acpi_vfct_bios: ===> Try VFCT... info: [drm] radeon_acpi_vfct_bios: Get "VFCT" ACPI table info: [drm] radeon_acpi_vfct_bios: Failed to get "VFCT" table: AE_NOT_FOUND info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: ===> Try IGP's VRAM... info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: VRAM base address: 0xc0000000 info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: Map address: 0xfffff800c0000000 (262144 bytes) info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: Incorrect BIOS signature: 0xFFFF info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: ===> Try PCI Expansion ROM... info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: Map address: 0xfffff800000c0000 (131072 bytes) info: [drm] ATOM BIOS: 113 drmn0: info: VRAM: 512M 0x0000000000000000 - 0x000000001FFFFFFF (512M used) drmn0: info: GTT: 512M 0x0000000020000000 - 0x000000003FFFFFFF info: [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M info: [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR info: [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready info: [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. info: [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010). info: [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query. info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) drmn0: info: radeon: using MSI. info: [drm] radeon: irq initialized. info: [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072 info: [drm] probing gen 2 caps for device 8086:d138 = 2/0 info: [drm] enabling PCIE gen 2 link speeds, disable with radeon.pcie_gen2=0 info: [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode info: [drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x0000000000040000). drmn0: info: WB enabled drmn0: info: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x0000000020000c00 and cpu addr 0x0xfffff801bf1d0c00 drmn0: info: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 0x0000000020000c0c and cpu addr 0x0xfffff801bf1d0c0c info: [drm] ring test on 0 succeeded in 1 usecs info: [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 1 usecs info: [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecs info: [drm] ib test on ring 3 succeeded in 0 usecs info: [drm] radeon_device_init: Taking over the fictitious range 0xc0000000-0xd0000000 info: [drm] Radeon Display Connectors info: [drm] Connector 0: info: [drm] DP-1 info: [drm] HPD2 info: [drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c 0x7e6c info: [drm] Encoders: info: [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY info: [drm] Connector 1: info: [drm] eDP-1 info: [drm] HPD3 info: [drm] DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c 0x7e2c info: [drm] Encoders: info: [drm] LCD1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY info: [drm] Connector 2: info: [drm] VGA-1 info: [drm] DDC: 0x7e40 0x7e40 0x7e44 0x7e44 0x7e48 0x7e48 0x7e4c 0x7e4c info: [drm] Encoders: info: [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 info: [drm] Special thermal controller config info: [drm] radeon: power management initialized info: [drm] Connector DP-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.DP-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode info: [drm] Connector eDP-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.eDP-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode info: [drm] Connector VGA-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.VGA-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode info: [drm] fb mappable at 0xC0142000 info: [drm] vram apper at 0xC0000000 info: [drm] size 14745600 info: [drm] fb depth is 24 info: [drm] pitch is 10240 fbd0 on drmn0 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 2.29.0 20080528 for drmn0 on minor 0 info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 drmn0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] RADEON_IS_PCIE info: [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x944A 0x106B:0x00B5). info: [drm] register mmio base: 0xD0620000 info: [drm] register mmio size: 65536 info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: ===> Try ATRM... info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: pci_find_class() found: 0:1:0:0, vendor=1002, device=944a info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: Get ACPI device handle info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: Get ACPI handle for "ATRM" info: [drm] radeon_atrm_get_bios: Failed to get "ATRM" handle: AE_NOT_FOUND info: [drm] radeon_acpi_vfct_bios: ===> Try VFCT... info: [drm] radeon_acpi_vfct_bios: Get "VFCT" ACPI table info: [drm] radeon_acpi_vfct_bios: Failed to get "VFCT" table: AE_NOT_FOUND info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: ===> Try IGP's VRAM... info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: VRAM base address: 0xc0000000 info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: Map address: 0xfffff800c0000000 (262144 bytes) info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: Incorrect BIOS signature: 0xFFFF info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: ===> Try PCI Expansion ROM... info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: Map address: 0xfffff800000c0000 (131072 bytes) info: [drm] ATOM BIOS: 113 drmn0: info: VRAM: 512M 0x0000000000000000 - 0x000000001FFFFFFF (512M used) drmn0: info: GTT: 512M 0x0000000020000000 - 0x000000003FFFFFFF info: [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M info: [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR info: [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready info: [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. info: [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010). info: [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query. info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) drmn0: info: radeon: using MSI. info: [drm] radeon: irq initialized. info: [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072 info: [drm] probing gen 2 caps for device 8086:d138 = 2/0 info: [drm] enabling PCIE gen 2 link speeds, disable with radeon.pcie_gen2=0 info: [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode info: [drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x0000000000040000). drmn0: info: WB enabled drmn0: info: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x0000000020000c00 and cpu addr 0x0xfffff8017c082c00 drmn0: info: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 0x0000000020000c0c and cpu addr 0x0xfffff8017c082c0c info: [drm] ring test on 0 succeeded in 1 usecs info: [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 1 usecs info: [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecs info: [drm] ib test on ring 3 succeeded in 0 usecs info: [drm] radeon_device_init: Taking over the fictitious range 0xc0000000-0xd0000000 info: [drm] Radeon Display Connectors info: [drm] Connector 0: info: [drm] DP-1 info: [drm] HPD2 info: [drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c 0x7e6c info: [drm] Encoders: info: [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY info: [drm] Connector 1: info: [drm] eDP-1 info: [drm] HPD3 info: [drm] DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c 0x7e2c info: [drm] Encoders: info: [drm] LCD1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY info: [drm] Connector 2: info: [drm] VGA-1 info: [drm] DDC: 0x7e40 0x7e40 0x7e44 0x7e44 0x7e48 0x7e48 0x7e4c 0x7e4c info: [drm] Encoders: info: [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 info: [drm] Special thermal controller config info: [drm] radeon: power management initialized info: [drm] Connector DP-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.DP-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode info: [drm] Connector eDP-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.eDP-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode info: [drm] Connector VGA-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.VGA-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode info: [drm] fb mappable at 0xC0142000 info: [drm] vram apper at 0xC0000000 info: [drm] size 14745600 info: [drm] fb depth is 24 info: [drm] pitch is 10240 fbd0 on drmn0 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 2.29.0 20080528 for drmn0 on minor 0 And xrandr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 1440, maximum 8192 x 8192 DisplayPort-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) eDP connected 2560x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm 2560x1440 59.95*+ 1920x1200 59.88 1920x1080 59.96 1600x1200 59.87 1680x1050 59.95 1400x1050 59.98 1280x1024 59.89 1440x900 59.89 1280x960 59.94 1280x854 59.89 1280x800 59.81 1280x720 59.86 1152x768 59.78 1024x768 59.92 800x600 59.86 848x480 59.66 720x480 59.71 640x480 59.38 VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) I thing in console I have 1440x900 but I am not sure, it is much smaller. Thank you. SK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 12:32:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBE3B69D28 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 12:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tommy7110@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x231.google.com (mail-oi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566761D54 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 12:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tommy7110@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id e72so165228566oib.1 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 05:32:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=uQez2J0SQi22bXJek+m9z/EK3LQnbZCfE3B+9jozVqA=; b=tPOGm8/Ltv7TqyQ/mdhORQdLIXiYDFTjFbq82kfvLwG4nOM47Oi4u/6l5/1mHZ9J55 footJzgoiAIgCQPaQgtQ00HcIolD0bmXQa1OeQ6Pdasqx+ad/U4W8O+owCKI0FM2rjhM SbA+BGw18469+WQEb2qD7GOxULpaOOmcez0swCH/K1B8sPCs3AfVd6xLhse7P8o10Lpz AR3DoMV/cMwwcX8xmc+c+FdmiZ8gW/tjyqW5Y1IrpHezmSpPxtS/oFxLqemsWc33stdB o5TUt2DZZl5IPR4JVqHaKHbnkHOHpYvDUZSsM+ox1zoXjZ3WgfR5szOoPuJ+qVLQP/63 H1bQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=uQez2J0SQi22bXJek+m9z/EK3LQnbZCfE3B+9jozVqA=; b=g+lMqaM57phrbj8idKB4BP/kALwZ/gK7p7N5TEO8lVv8y1LYl+wbqR+S/unXfdWVXm OS+DYoC0nxT5EKgtsXe6AaJdEfQtRsKjanM+fYsxEXdYoP6pLgdbuam8rchg3DR5A1R+ vktgyctL+WLD4bzJP1NVOB3slLCb39Yh0Gyi0Y2/dOn2y22OgLMnr9cm0Od3UCsBgbUP LVYc260TnVUfm435wRJ4HJzD1Mj91swhMT/Ta3e9jO03jG5bz1RZD3S8lYhJ79NVeyuS LoL4OIVJu30+6r66B7V/XpL4Cjqrdz8QKzrCReQVDaCmZNTm/e3vJG1ZupVhPgU22c1O bxUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJLoilSWQuCanqwBPkzZ43nOqf5HPfIJzkuOyPlhvILgUoJlL25glphzVek90x2SfxIHHWQXq7pxBVS2g== X-Received: by 10.157.40.150 with SMTP id s22mr2515120ota.62.1465043573573; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 05:32:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.169.84 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:32:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:32:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD-SA-16:24.ntp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 12:32:54 -0000 Hi, I've a 10.3-RELEASE system updated to p4 just the other day, when I use freebsd-update to go to p5 in addition to all the expected NTP related files it wants to update: /boot/boot1.efi /boot/boot1.efifat I can't see any changes to those files for the revision quoted in the advisory: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?limit_changes=0&view=revision&revision=r301301 Is this the update to these two files expected? Tom. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 13:04:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD7AB69653 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEF4C1DB6 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id a136so31335779wme.0 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 06:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SP5l9zsI57szYo90z8bsZzsa6rT81GmqYaUxPgEeCU8=; b=w+8ulTKQEC2diqDNoyzmkFpGN5sKTPPRyZQCsFxKlpRLOyBcekdKiML3vLD+rVe4Ln nKoU2Ca4OdJxiIIIN4v0J/8nzc+xSctJdJJVaDkWlz9uSYMRp6eE/HAM1LdpA4a7lnGO 7kYty3YKGytE82lZg9ZlJs9VUKPWOMvsukBrtCwsA4uJwu9E21rNISn6jLaeHieRLcOX gIjweJoZ6U5i+d+t/H/GHLnMJIo8UokjHwQSjbbc+uhIj2rUaKbwXWGn7brGYEeb3L4M bsStCfF5zCpyZ7w9yrKKyXeZnKNIuVpogJPVCJFmSJsmz0Mu4ShRYWZ7xhjmSHavWwQ2 y9qA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SP5l9zsI57szYo90z8bsZzsa6rT81GmqYaUxPgEeCU8=; b=El7OHJCxg42OMbxRWe3R/02JUZxoQlmxPgh+bLPc9dhysuv5OG48IZ70Uic7vwKUo9 Qs/qB7QIP0fgvsJ3tZ/uU1vfS6RoYnCzcPDipMpMYaYX6Q+wNwFYX85Y/MYUwM2ZseC2 jeH1N2EYyHDqQj5KAsMeFmjH3w+fXiIyDh2LTT6tYYUa1ayDTDeh8DHV5DF9GCDZjKjN HAVTIypipzT0PGnsb5sVJU9E1lAZnUb5x526d9USUoReWYwv7HP20zTmTFC7tkfjdfDO m13+O1xFKkurtViiW5nzd8SytX8qq6btRVIgbFrf2lUJlFJNin39UrRt0tEviptQoOC6 HQIw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLqWReP1Uak6sBc7HTwc1eYGUZuZtAsd+o9L6nOya5yTeJBtY+HSJjGC/LO23UgLA== X-Received: by 10.28.37.195 with SMTP id l186mr3957754wml.23.1465045496352; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 06:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.222.27.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id vv1sm1772036wjc.34.2016.06.04.06.04.54 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Jun 2016 06:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:04:53 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Perl 5 works best on FreeBSD 10.1? Message-ID: <20160604140453.586fb694@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <57524DCA.1060006@holgerdanske.com> References: <57524DCA.1060006@holgerdanske.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 13:04:58 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:40:58 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > freebsd-questions: > > I am building a FreeBSD 10.1 computer Why are you installing 10.1 when 10.3 is availible? > and would like to install Perl > 5. ... > > What is the best way to get a robust Perl 5 installation on FreeBSD > 10.1? The default version is 5.20. If you chose anything else you'll have have to build your own packages or install from ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 15:19:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EE9B69B90 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qg0-x22d.google.com (mail-qg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92A04111E for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qg0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 93so24737648qgx.2 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 08:19:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=mjnUK01u2O67Ls7U1ENqFPqxB3JEJ61gSHwSj0/0EWU=; b=XshZBhS3c4rcQpsxCBC575JNHQ1Tv5UUOcTElsFxfjVr1izEf3yhVVRYq/V6ObhexI WFTm6J/aIOgBBFtNCavvz9giG722K+Sfk8PkwxYZO0j6SEWu8GTD0ObKloeJIlVh5tk7 C3FuS6n9ShJKtHFufEYlzJCGMw0ZaDVYX8UQWbH6iJjq+oqm2pN/zaIOhxGWyJw4DBPp 5ARSE1y+1w5UUBZWE8mbQHic0KbMEsGy9+PWl3BCGXMQYSErMTD9ylbIC5yGKuhO0ZPw yEWYA4YPVI9x9VTNqjSxGILlHvc/kO0bazTiJwJ6pHxBkDhjJTxe2zz7yvyg/S+MeymB Zoxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=mjnUK01u2O67Ls7U1ENqFPqxB3JEJ61gSHwSj0/0EWU=; b=TDfhl6u+Xx6rr+UpLqr/ka+jGZ5QzRm6RHqQHlt1kzO7rId6PVHu+7GDZu73iDrINL 9J+JZGI0LfEp0mldsTxqBvCSbfyB139OV4SXe8HL4G7SAyt7Orq4JPq9sSFqFE1lARYC XInY7qbOy9qXzHii/Nx8HGTjJmsLn94hjJvqnyi/x4d0GYrZ8NEfk2I4Mu2zQtfLlT/K KkbSPTPI/o6Ttb+VspR2zFVBywTB3uA5cGID/dGnIVYUl8dM9nzyQ4qvJt5Cl3unxqSm VASKQDZGBQMUacbKrjJlctxwHzBSFf9hGfM4oYGDcQrNilqvOwQ02XZ7+/6WvLLhxGuw asiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLRjXw1xpvNGRwXNO49qAD8z2CMe7Vv/NFCYXqvHddQQSi4IQr1YJBwKImF0XfeG4+U0jj6tNl8okQKeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.18.244 with SMTP id 107mr7805653qgf.95.1465053547652; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.200.47.20 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.200.47.20 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86fusumnx1.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <0fe96fb9-b6af-777e-9c40-d2552e05a045@gmail.com> <86fusumnx1.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:19:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: User login information on console From: Johan Hendriks To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 15:19:08 -0000 Op 3 jun. 2016 14:56 schreef "Brandon J. Wandersee" < brandon.wandersee@gmail.com>: > > > Johan Hendriks writes: > > > Hello all. > > > > If someone logs in and su to root, then there is a line printed on the > > first console. > > Is it possible to print this to all logged in root users with a ssh session? > > > > Would you mind sharing more details about your situation, and what your > goal and resons for wanting this are? It sounds like you're placing an > exceptional amount of trust in a lot of people. > > All privileged log-ins are recorded in /var/log/auth.log, so that's a > good place to start if you want to track privileged log-ins. > > -- > > :: Brandon J. Wandersee > :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com > :: -------------------------------------------------- > :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' > :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- What I would like is a message like you get on the console when someone su to root. So if I am logged in as root that I would get the message from the first console also in a ssh session. It is not about trust, but in case of trouble it sometimes happens two people are working on the same issue. So sysadmin 1 log in and become root. He starts to do his thing. Then sysadmin 2 read the same ticket and logs in also. They are not aware that they both work on the same problem. If sysadmin 2 become root and sysadmin 1 sees that because he saw the su to root then he could notify sysadmin 2 that he is already working on it. But set watch = (0 all all ) shows logged in users so that way sysadmin 2 sees that one is already logged in so it helps already. But the su message would be nice. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 16:27:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027D0B6A304 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0B8C1164 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 09:27:01 -0700 Subject: Re: Which Perl 5 works best on FreeBSD 10.1? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <57524DCA.1060006@holgerdanske.com> <20160604140453.586fb694@gumby.homeunix.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <57530161.70403@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 09:27:13 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160604140453.586fb694@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:27:03 -0000 On 06/04/2016 06:04 AM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:40:58 -0700 > David Christensen wrote: > >> freebsd-questions: >> >> I am building a FreeBSD 10.1 computer > > Why are you installing 10.1 when 10.3 is availible? I want stability, and older usually means more stability. > >> and would like to install Perl >> 5. > ... >> >> What is the best way to get a robust Perl 5 installation on FreeBSD >> 10.1? > > The default version is 5.20. If you chose anything else you'll have > have to build your own packages or install from ports. Okay. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 17:07:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2734B694D2 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 747A01776 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 53906 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2016 17:07:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2016 17:07:55 -0000 Date: 4 Jun 2016 17:07:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20160604170733.21210.qmail@ary.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: dpchrist@holgerdanske.com Subject: Re: Which Perl 5 works best on FreeBSD 10.1? In-Reply-To: <57530161.70403@holgerdanske.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 17:07:56 -0000 >> Why are you installing 10.1 when 10.3 is availible? > >I want stability, and older usually means more stability. The difference between N.1 and N.3 is mostly bug fixes. You'll find 10.3 at least as stable as 10.1. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1465066002.419815435@f142.i.mail.ru> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <575326F1.6000908@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 20:07:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1465066002.419815435@f142.i.mail.ru> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xs1uGrWCGmlPncM9J0FNijo5vtIKHPgHm" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 19:07:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --xs1uGrWCGmlPncM9J0FNijo5vtIKHPgHm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="kvfvBnn5smcTc1Vd0TidJB7gmiOSA3muH" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <575326F1.6000908@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Relevant mailing list. References: <1465066002.419815435@f142.i.mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <1465066002.419815435@f142.i.mail.ru> --kvfvBnn5smcTc1Vd0TidJB7gmiOSA3muH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/06/04 19:46, Bulat Bulat via freebsd-questions wrote: > I am currently reading sources and have question. What mailing list > should I ask my question on? freebsd-hackers@... is probably the right place to ask general FreeBSD programming questions. Or you can ask your questions here and we'll be able to direct you to the right people to answer them if we can't answer them directly ourselves. 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Message-ID: <20160604211057.3de8e1e7@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <1465066002.419815435@f142.i.mail.ru> References: <1465066002.419815435@f142.i.mail.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 19:11:06 -0000 Le Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:46:42 +0300, Bulat Bulat via freebsd-questions a =E9crit : Hello, > I am currently reading sources and have question. What mailing list > should I ask my question on? >=20 > I observed the list at https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > but did not find appropriate one for src's-related question. You can ask on any mailing list related of the code (for example freebsd-net@ for network code, etc). There is freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org too.=20 Regards. 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charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/06/04 20:27, Bulat Bulat via freebsd-questions wrote: > However, the meaning of ts_free member in turnstile structure for me is= unclear. > My understanding: when thread discovers than lock's turnstile is alread= y present=20 > at turnstile chain it adds its own turnstile to lock's turnstile's ts_f= ree > and after it wokes up it regrabs turnstile from the same > ts_free list of lock's turnstile. But why does it so, if it already has= its own turnstile, what the=20 > meaning of putting of turnstile to free list only for regrabbing it lat= er. This is definitely a question for freebsd-hackers@... 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But why does it so, if it already has > its own turnstile, what the > > meaning of putting of turnstile to free list only for regrabbing it > later. > > This is definitely a question for freebsd-hackers@... > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > This is put to free list - take it from free list . A possible another method is to use dispose - allocate pair . When dispose - allocate was taking long time ( in old times ) , the "put to free - take from free" method was in use . I am not saying that the reason of the use in your case is that , but there was such a method in older times . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk