From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 04:52:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39EFB84AC6 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 04:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63B341E25 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 04:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6A4qGAl038585; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 06:52:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed To: Stari Karp , FreeBSD Questions References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 06:52:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 04:52:28 -0000 On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: > configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 > glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > gmodule-export-2.0 > gnome-desktop-3.0 > folks >= 0.9.5 > folks-telepathy > folks-eds > libnotify > telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > goa-1.0 > gee-0.8 > champlain-0.12 > clutter-gtk-1.0 > geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > ) were not met: There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 09:27:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A08B8345F for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward4j.cmail.yandex.net (forward4j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A362C1F9D for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (smtp12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.191]) by forward4j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5369B20752; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:27:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5254D16A067A; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:27:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 0FptQR2C9o-R2CKYoXx; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:27:02 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1468142823; bh=yUnyLYz/V0pyJYJeG6oSdHMjwOPuElR0YTJJqPVIlPw=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=R+UUBA5Ahf7Ly4hYJua+JPLTE/SA3EBWncdCcEkEA8GMlVUdq6myOKA0cySBJ4LHp Tv18J0PfWOQwVtvY7cIo3ZYGP7kV1m/2Qmt9ohdxVADajZV4ehJhbWLoOgwFghczWG +3a6Fh6O/X8CDbj2BjNjMpFqtPhq9R6C78H4bM10= Authentication-Results: smtp12.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed From: Stari Karp To: Bernt Hansson , FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:27:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:27:08 -0000 On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 > >               glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > >               gmodule-export-2.0 > >               gnome-desktop-3.0 > >               folks >= 0.9.5 > >               folks-telepathy > >               folks-eds > >               libnotify > >               telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > >               libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > >               libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > >               libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > >               goa-1.0 > >               gee-0.8 > >               champlain-0.12 > >               clutter-gtk-1.0 > >               geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > >               ) were not met: > There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. The ports are updated and problem exist. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 13:38:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852CFB85BAB for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward4m.cmail.yandex.net (forward4m.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:b030::1b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FEFC1CB2 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (smtp3m.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.130]) by forward4m.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 476AC206C2; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:51 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 45C2227A000F; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:51 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id kMLZA5Nxur-cosWaMxa; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:50 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1468157930; bh=LVmsaQz/DEd5t4E8M+fVR7HQwHmDuNSSI/lpuvecOYg=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=uJAIT72Yubn0sP1ac3S7vFa+yJirWZLb/DPUNj4ECt9IY30E+GGx48Zj2gw6olBLb 32mfKHugXNcjDAFXh9AGGoouC6Z61AoWqgzSNsJPPzI5jW3yUiqdVnQF3U2MbhUqrD OwTzMasI9O9Cnu9EQVh243s0Sd77bFBtg67BRLeI= Authentication-Results: smtp3m.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1468157927.49010.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed From: Stari Karp To: Bernt Hansson , FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:38:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:38:54 -0000 On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 05:27 -0400, Stari Karp wrote: > On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > > On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > > > > > > configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 > > >               glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > > >               gmodule-export-2.0 > > >               gnome-desktop-3.0 > > >               folks >= 0.9.5 > > >               folks-telepathy > > >               folks-eds > > >               libnotify > > >               telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > > >               libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > >               libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > >               libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > >               goa-1.0 > > >               gee-0.8 > > >               champlain-0.12 > > >               clutter-gtk-1.0 > > >               geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > > >               ) were not met: > > There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. > The ports are updated and problem exist. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb > sd.org" pkg info -d gnome-contacts gnome-contacts-3.18.0: libxml2-2.9.3 libgee-0.18.0 pango-1.38.0_1 perl5-5.20.3_13 clutter-gtk3-1.6.6 folks-0.11.1 libnotify-0.7.6_1 gnome-desktop-3.18.2_1 gettext-runtime-0.19.8.1 gnome-online-accounts-3.18.4_1 libchamplain-0.12.13 gtk3-3.18.8_3 cheese-3.18.1 atk-2.18.0 evolution-data-server-3.18.5_1 glib-2.46.2_2 pkg info -r gnome-contacts gnome-contacts-3.18.0: gnome-utils-3.18.0,1 pkg info -d gnome-utils gnome-utils-3.18.0,1: gnome-contacts-3.18.0 gnome-dictionary-3.18.1 gnome-maps-3.18.2 gnome-font-viewer-3.16.2 gnome-weather-3.18.1 gnome-system-monitor-3.16.0 gnome-documents-3.18.2 gnome-photos-3.18.2 gnome-search-tool-3.6.0 gnome-clocks-3.18.0 gnome-todo-3.18.1 gnome-system-log-3.9.90 gnome-screenshot-3.18.0 gnote-3.18.1 baobab-3.18.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 15:36:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F101B8305D for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60E4B1C70 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from moby.local ([91.140.51.215]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LbdiB-1axt751XPX-00lBpY for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:36:16 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: jobs control in a /bin/sh script To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <930cbcd1-2345-8a55-1b87-1691f5aa09a1@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:34:40 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OubV4tMP+zGMZxsOxytEDf7nR5qgsvqbEJeJexR2dEHOs+FJPP7 IEqeuU/mv3T7pwl34tC6lTpqlG1my5rvWC13DAcpEcyCZl9IHj78M5hFk54Gpx90/sEpwQS FlNBIIt1H0T509hiCd1Jo6VF+ZHSKXEk8doTrp+WdoXz2l0/Wv1NZtkEj0J04lrx1s0yJBV ufT/+ro8BONDKBMH2w7Tg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:35kzQC9k8EY=:SQnpnBag9S91g19ZsS2sVE kVkIvWXuj56KSpiM9LA0wtSHrw102cMJfo28EcKjsjB7AWskgQjflTbsw4znFzTuD+9h0BeAU zLHnjf/o3j3A+a9AsPNu/7KlGK0Jx5dRVhGPnWoKN6fEqV2aU6B24/qmE1VmhsGSlQdlHHckh HohhD0msIDPFJ17nVJV7WEza12nZC60cXeLaWF1mYMkuKOVZf6bE+Pl30xv87RnjbmnPDZZ9Q WZaJ2y6p7p2YVi5XMS1O1gEtIcawJ1mXID//0NsX2wVVUX3vVRt81jx0+UGK7ccM5Jy7pCQsx vsyKE25EbiG2/0iqcdedki2dRr80oGBUHejoV1AuxQEGgXIc0qY05gBY7sj6chbuvYS+d3cNv c5zOSGGS1FYrqGfFLNZcnI09jFbPmRmRV62rkjcS3HQ3SIDXjYcSegaJfixRkWRHv0h8kFBOE UQUR/jYtKwms9BWBpuQFGTPjkVrAAk3lJE0OqvhGtJCc7K1OkT6tEQ2kg/e4U+O9Rq1lZ0Lig hlUb0LJ5HAg+zNPyvJTqyS4vHtAxMgTcHUnVIr0YRXGeTntpYjpZXKnHMhgWXUhNRrorxWRf1 GA/56JMk6x9UYpbB/pgiR/buc0rlSMszYTNZYco33ZfHsPL8Z0wwtppZ1TNjErG7bUrk3zzg3 hoCh+s0XwNQeEAr9wPRVCVsP4vBsArrdWtSHlL2hZU7KjY4/eMfS/bngZabF6W9v+UkODt4Hz AGDErcn3yzXUK2lpIl2i8zt4hCPu6wfY22Mgs7k0FIGw/9Er+52U2dV84rFgLeQ5lRL40nm1b ZqQbgYj X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:36:26 -0000 Hi, Is there a way to redirect "jobs" output? While this works on other bourne-like shells like zsh or bash, it doesn't on /bin/sh. > $ sleep 100 & > $ sleep 100 & > $ jobs -p > 1760 > 1761 > $ jobs -p | cat > $ My code looks like this: > for j in $jobs > do > ( > blah; blah; blah; > ) & > done and I'd like to limit the number of jobs my script could create. Thanks, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 15:57:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BE3B83A48 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F42F1AF2 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E6523CDC0; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:52:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6AFqJ1W004203; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:52:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:52:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nikos Vassiliadis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jobs control in a /bin/sh script Message-Id: <20160710175219.48ef1d1a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <930cbcd1-2345-8a55-1b87-1691f5aa09a1@gmx.com> References: <930cbcd1-2345-8a55-1b87-1691f5aa09a1@gmx.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:57:43 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:34:40 +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to redirect "jobs" output? > While this works on other bourne-like shells like zsh > or bash, it doesn't on /bin/sh. > > > $ sleep 100 & > > $ sleep 100 & > > $ jobs -p > > 1760 > > 1761 > > $ jobs -p | cat > > $ > > My code looks like this: > > for j in $jobs > > do > > ( > > blah; blah; blah; > > ) & > > done > > and I'd like to limit the number of jobs my script could create. How about this? JOBS=`jobs -p` for j in $JOBS; do # ... whatever you need to do with $j ... done Or the iteration just shortened: for j in `jobs -p`; do # ... whatever you need to do with $j ... done -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 16:38:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB18AB8445C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-reply@domain.com) Received: from mailhost.noorhome.net (mailhost.strongauth.com [172.1.63.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FEE1B1F for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-reply@domain.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.noorhome.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1DC9F2C67 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:30:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gw.noorhome.net Received: from mailhost.noorhome.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.noorhome.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A77IhmUnLePp for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from domain.com (unknown [59.179.17.1]) by mailhost.noorhome.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6A519F2C58 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:30:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Email Support To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: E-mail Account Verification Date: 10 Jul 2016 22:02:50 +0530 Message-ID: <20160710220250.DCC1CF6ABEB49576@domain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:04 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 18:51:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BD6B8400E for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47D4E11D9 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from moby.local ([91.140.51.215]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LZz01-1azO3k18hh-00loeY; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 20:51:25 +0200 Subject: Re: jobs control in a /bin/sh script To: Polytropon References: <930cbcd1-2345-8a55-1b87-1691f5aa09a1@gmx.com> <20160710175219.48ef1d1a.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Nikos Vassiliadis Message-ID: <3b55e09b-13d3-bdf2-e366-2c798ca9c1d2@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 21:49:51 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160710175219.48ef1d1a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HxcfJz0XpG+Y7ew0rn9JK+5QZjS1zVLIa545NFsAZ9gGeCEJRnj vG72ac/bfLCe4kzXDSfRUo6CsixYjaBseNBdubNXG7uT7h1xASMTHfz60n9MIDrz36spIy7 C6k087wn8Dk9F8NK/fncgIOyT3GFENGApk1jaFbZ9Le+s14lMLW+yGmRqbHsBr/XYz7eV0s fBZYSXNZBpQWiFKW5PCuA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jmgrkU94PE8=:wLvECSCbriM5YZS+HpBsrv 6JRBVF21nr9jCHuXlzl66dBD8tT2gUkvg5CFeeF+y86LP7JgWZWrRY0TanqDLAXGaAxewOBJB q7cXl8cxeV8C+GG0jG1m3WwNDkUArcerFXPwospcrEpMia4PW6AiCGqq9/p2zFcgWyPtUQB36 vBwY0yzA2CePM3vucyXOM8mNqLtBazi1FMzOGXwORtklZK/wYenmDUYjsHU/AgIPT0/D0UdjZ RW46gyS/v1fn9IlSHCSu2EM0QEwB2wSt3bsumaPSn2vAu9Y+3V/xDOzG5iAqBVmnNyL/j/4xv uo270c2S4DKZiH/cvJK6O+V7jEY7fiwsI9LyXSrgHWcd8kGEamK7/onH4da06j961LPsiRAM4 vAn7oDyac3vPvN2+GAXTkisvq2e51tvzDPx2aXOgXAVJTR5/QyaS4tzpaXilVXq9zFzt6JhKk JHjbqx4YEcJqK7TeWu66c3WUSYVf96v817l4a2XhoNiIE06FNqB52rmQqba0m31ocLfaapp1X f/N2gCOfFWnqX+fDHtxerTHxlzx+M7+SCwZ9BccrxaFWBbKGH2f0zlKnoAE/MJ+CdFra9PxDX xA84Lz8VrkGHT/Vpx6ivoyfnCGValvIjbMhs4fJuIInxcEFtA8n1vBOr3OwBIGsOBPvZhmzWo UpiWwDm5wXithgeOv8KBN46lCOR9oCrvVUd/leB10KcQ90emR6wkCN7umcIELW3gY8u5Pv90E YjJySH+gWkr5LiUuRRrHxyBgupuL+x7lYOuGF1lf7zijWRE/xAOIoha3flWPeWsEXxgSLzeAS 8V+0AdL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:51:35 -0000 On 07/10/16 18:52, Polytropon wrote: > JOBS=`jobs -p` Thank you, that would do what I want. It's rather strange that the other construct doesn't work. But this workaround would do:) Thanks, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 10 19:37:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2D7B84C61 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00C3D16B5 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6AJbWRh051114; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 21:37:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed To: Stari Karp , FreeBSD Questions References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <16887d89-22c4-9fc0-1586-bc8c58918402@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 21:37:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:37:37 -0000 On 2016-07-10 11:27, Stari Karp wrote: > On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: >>> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 >>> glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 >>> gmodule-export-2.0 >>> gnome-desktop-3.0 >>> folks >= 0.9.5 >>> folks-telepathy >>> folks-eds >>> libnotify >>> telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 >>> libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>> libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>> libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>> goa-1.0 >>> gee-0.8 >>> champlain-0.12 >>> clutter-gtk-1.0 >>> geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 >>> ) were not met: >> There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. > The ports are updated and problem exist. > You need to upgrade those programs in the list. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 02:40:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525EFB8F981 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320A01644 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA50834A9ED for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Boot Issues (?) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:24:08 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:40:43 -0000 I tried to bring up the latest edition of the Mac Mini on 10.3. Booted = from memstick image. It got what looks like about half way through the = hardware checks and froze. This happened several times. Never found a = way to get past that. Tried a mfsbsd memstick 9.2 image and that booted just fine. However, = the keyboard was non-functional. I was at the login prompt on the = console, but nothing after that. The keyboard worked fine during the = bootstrap process itself except that if I hit return during the count = down, it will hang somewhere in the boot process. If I let it timeout = then the boot completes just fine. Mfsbsd has sshd running so went in = that way. The system is working, but there is no keyboard. I suspect = this is a situation where there is new hardware that is not known to the = system, but I just don't see it in the available info. Here is the boot = log and pciconf output. Since then 11.0BETA 0 became available. I = tried the memstick image and it boots fine and the keyboard works. Even = more interesting, I can now configure the disks using GPT rather than = MBR and it will boot. Before only MBR would boot. So, I am giving up = on 10 and will start the conversion testing from 9 to 11. Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd newsyslog[640]: logfile first created Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD = Project. Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, = 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: The Regents of the University of = California. All rights reserved. Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The = FreeBSD Foundation. Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #6 r255896M: Wed Oct = 9 01:45:07 CEST 2013 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: root@mfsbsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC = amd64 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched = [FreeBSD] Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4260U CPU @ = 1.40GHz (2000.04-MHz K8-class CPU) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x40651 = Family =3D 0x6 Model =3D 0x45 Stepping =3D 1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: = Features=3D0xbfebfbff Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: = Features2=3D0x7ffafbbf,FMA,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AES= NI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND> Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: AMD = Features=3D0x2c100800 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: AMD Features2=3D0x21 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Standard Extended = Features=3D0x27ab Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: TSC: P-state invariant, performance = statistics Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: real memory =3D 4294967296 (4096 MB) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: avail memory =3D 3907145728 (3726 MB) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System = Detected: 4 CPUs Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 = SMT threads Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ACPI Warning: 32/64X length mismatch in = Gpe0Block: 256/0 (20110527/tbfadt-556) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-39 on = motherboard Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: kbd0 at kbdmux0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ACPI Error: No handler for Region [CMS0] = (0xfffffe0003ac6100) [SystemCMOS] (20110527/evregion-421) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ACPI Error: Region SystemCMOS (ID=3D5) = has no handler (20110527/exfldio-310) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed = [\_SB_.PCI0._INI] (Node 0xfffffe0003ad1080), AE_NOT_EXIST = (20110527/psparse-560) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 950 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 550 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "HPET1" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 440 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "HPET2" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 440 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "HPET3" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 440 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "HPET4" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 440 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi0: reservation of 20000000, 200000 = (3) failed Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi0: reservation of 40000000, 200000 = (3) failed Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu2: on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: cpu3: on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: atrtc0: port = 0x70-0x77 on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz = quality 0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: attimer0: port = 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz = quality 0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz = quality 100 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 = Hz quality 900 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at = 3.579545MHz> port 0x1808-0x180b on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib0: port = 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: vgapci0: port = 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xa0000000-0xa03fffff,0x90000000-0x9fffffff irq 16 at = device 2.0 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: hdac0: = mem 0xa0810000-0xa0813fff irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: xhci0: mem 0xa0800000-0xa080ffff at device 20.0 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: xhci0: 32 byte context size. Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: usbus0 on xhci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci0: at device 22.0 (no = driver attached) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: hdac1: = mem 0xa0814000-0xa0817fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib1: at device 28.0 on = pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib2: at device = 28.2 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci2: on pcib2 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver = attached) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib3: at device = 28.3 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci3: on pcib3 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: bge0: mem = 0xa0700000-0xa070ffff,0xa0710000-0xa071ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: bge0: CHIP ID 0x57766001; ASIC REV = 0x57766; CHIP REV 0x577660; PCI-E Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: miibus0: on bge0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, = 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, = 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: bge0: Ethernet address: 38:c9:86:07:3b:5b Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci3: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib4: at device = 28.4 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci4: on pcib4 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib5: at device = 0.0 on pci4 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci5: on pcib5 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib6: at device = 0.0 on pci5 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci6: on pcib6 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci6: at device 0.0 (no = driver attached) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib7: at device = 3.0 on pci5 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci7: on pcib7 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib8: at device = 4.0 on pci5 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci56: on pcib8 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib9: at device = 5.0 on pci5 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci57: on pcib9 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcib10: at device = 6.0 on pci5 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci106: on pcib10 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on = pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: isa0: on isab0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ahci0: port = 0x2088-0x208f,0x2094-0x2097,0x2080-0x2087,0x2090-0x2093,0x2060-0x207f = mem 0xa082a000-0xa082a7ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 1 6Gbps ports, = Port Multiplier not supported Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ahcich0: at channel 0 on = ahci0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pci0: at device 31.3 = (no driver attached) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: acpi_button1: on acpi0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: sc0: on isa0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, = flags=3D0x300> Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: vga0: at port = 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: est0: on cpu0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: p4tcc0: = on cpu0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: est1: on cpu1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: p4tcc1: = on cpu1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: est2: on cpu2 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: p4tcc2: = on cpu2 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: est3: on cpu3 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: p4tcc3: = on cpu3 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: hdacc0: at cad = 0 on hdac0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcm0: at = nid 3 on hdaa0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: hdacc1: = at cad 0 on hdac1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcm1: at = nid 18 and 24 on hdaa1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcm2: at nid 16 on hdaa1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: pcm3: = at nid 33 on hdaa1 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: md0: Preloaded image 24076288 = bytes at 0xffffffff817b93c0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ugen0.1: <0x8086> at usbus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: uhub0: <0x8086 XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, = rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun = 0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, = UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ada0: Command Queueing enabled Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte = sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ada0: Previously was known as ad4 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2000044708 Hz = quality 1000 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Root mount waiting for: usbus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: uhub0: 13 ports with 13 removable, self = powered Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: xhci_do_command: Command timeout! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed = (USB_ERR_TIMEOUT, ignored) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 = (disconnected) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate = new device Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Root mount waiting for: usbus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: xhci_do_command: Command timeout! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed = (USB_ERR_TIMEOUT, ignored) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 = (disconnected) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate = new device Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Root mount waiting for: usbus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: xhci_do_command: Command timeout! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed = (USB_ERR_TIMEOUT, ignored) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 = (disconnected) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate = new device Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Root mount waiting for: usbus0 Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: xhci_do_command: Command timeout! Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed = (USB_ERR_TIMEOUT, ignored) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 = (disconnected) Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate = new device Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 = []... Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd getty[787]: open /dev/ttyu0: No such file or = directory Jul 9 22:13:17 mfsbsd getty[788]: open /dev/ttyu1: No such file or = directory root@mfsbsd:~ # pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=3D0x060000 card=3D0x0141106b = chip=3D0x0a048086 rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D HOST-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=3D0x030000 card=3D0x0141106b = chip=3D0x0a268086 rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D display subclass =3D VGA hdac0@pci0:0:3:0: class=3D0x040300 card=3D0x0141106b = chip=3D0x0a0c8086 rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D multimedia subclass =3D HDA xhci0@pci0:0:20:0: class=3D0x0c0330 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c318086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D serial bus subclass =3D USB none0@pci0:0:22:0: class=3D0x078000 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c3a8086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D simple comms hdac1@pci0:0:27:0: class=3D0x040300 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c208086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D multimedia subclass =3D HDA pcib1@pci0:0:28:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c108086 rev=3D0xe4 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib2@pci0:0:28:2: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c148086 rev=3D0xe4 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:0:28:3: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c168086 rev=3D0xe4 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib4@pci0:0:28:4: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c188086 rev=3D0xe4 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=3D0x060100 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c438086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-ISA ahci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=3D0x010601 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c038086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D mass storage subclass =3D SATA none1@pci0:0:31:3: class=3D0x0c0500 card=3D0x72708086 = chip=3D0x9c228086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D serial bus subclass =3D SMBus none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x013b106b = chip=3D0x43a014e4 rev=3D0x03 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Broadcom Corporation' class =3D network bge0@pci0:3:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x168614e4 = chip=3D0x168614e4 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Broadcom Corporation' class =3D network subclass =3D ethernet none3@pci0:3:0:1: class=3D0x080501 card=3D0x000014e4 = chip=3D0x16bc14e4 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Broadcom Corporation' device =3D 'NetXtreme BCM57765 Memory Card Reader' class =3D base peripheral subclass =3D SD host controller pcib5@pci0:4:0:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156d8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib6@pci0:5:0:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156d8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib7@pci0:5:3:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156d8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib8@pci0:5:4:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156d8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib9@pci0:5:5:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156d8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI pcib10@pci0:5:6:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156d8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D bridge subclass =3D PCI-PCI none4@pci0:6:0:0: class=3D0x088000 card=3D0x00000000 = chip=3D0x156c8086 rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' class =3D base peripheral =E2=80=94 Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 04:32:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D492B91188 for ; 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slowing_down a super_fast mouse References: <57689E95.2090502@emailrob.com> <20160621072354.575ae5a3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160621072354.575ae5a3.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-07-11_01:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1604210000 definitions=main-1607110036 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 04:32:42 -0000 On 06/21/16 05:23, Polytropon wrote: dear sir or madam --- i apologize for the delay of my response and my thanks . however , as i am certain that you and other readers will appreciate , since mid_day thursday [ jun_23 ] , here , at the salt_mine , "brexit" has been creating additional work for me . it is my understanding that i am not alone , in this situation . [ update 16_jul_10_sun --- i had most of this done by 16_jun_30_thu . un_fortunately , another crisis developed . being self_employed , with no staff [ which has pros and cons ] , i have to deal with everything my_self . i apologize for the additional delay ; rest assured , i did not forget about you . ] separately and more importantly , i ask you for your assistance . in my youth , i was taught "the rules" for writing a polite , proper business letter . these rules have served me well , even before i discovered jean renoir . some of these rules are premised upon the writer knowing the sex of the intended recipient , so that the correct sex_specific titles and pronouns may be selected , in those places where their use is appropriate . when lacking this information , somewhat more cumbersome solutions exist . as i do not know you personally , i find that your appellation , "polytropon" , provides insufficient information , for me to make the correct selection , with a high probability of success . my online_search attempts have been fruitless [ no doubt , i have not selected , as yet , the right engine ] . as it is not my intent to offend [ unless , of course , i am playing the future victor of agincourt , during his princely days , or "francis urquardt" [ after "brexit" , the choice was obvious ] ] , for the benefit of me and , possibly , others , for this purpose , would you care to specify a preference for writers to select one sex rather than the other ? regardless of your answer , for this , i thank you in advance . > On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:55:33 +0000, spellberg_robert wrote: >> howdy , folks --- >> >> i hope that everyone is well . >> >> >> >> in anticipation of installing 10.3 , i have been buying new hardware >> [ probably , intel "skylake" and "z170" , of some kind ] . >> this new mechanical keyboard , "daskeyboard" , >> with the cherry "blue" switches , is really nice , > > Yes, those are great, but nothing beats "IBM model M". :-) i believe that i have used one of those ; was it the kbd for the 3270 ? >> [ before i did any editing , this post looked like >> traudl junge's first effort for her new boss , >> in that scene in "downfall" , at the beginning of the film >> ] . > > Then compare to the "typist audition" in "Schindler's List" > for improvement. :-) i do not have that one in my library [ i --did-- see it once , though , long ago ] . in fact , steven's films are poorly represented among my 1500+ titles ; perhaps , one day ... . however , thanks to much recent use , my kbd error_rate has dropped , --markedly-- . >> the ps2 keyboards and mice actually have usb interfaces , >> with usb/ps2 adapters , plugged into ps2 ports . >> from what i read on wikipedia , >> these should look like ps2 devices to the ps2 ports . >> the six_years_old moboes --do-- have usb ports of some kind , >> but this is my first usb equipment , >> therefore , i have no usb experience . > > Then why don't you use them natively via USB? Basically, it should > work out of the box (as the kernel provides ukbd and ums drivers). now , --this-- is a very good question . essentially , most_of_the_time , i am a "late adopter" [ but , as i said , above , i am considering "skylake" ; whoda thunkit ? ] . when i change things , i like to change them one_at_a_time . this comes from my engineering mind_set ; change one variable , then , see what happened . when i was young_and_stupid , i had to be the first kid on the block to acquire the newest toy [ does anybody remember "mr machine" ? ] . by my mid_twenties , i had discovered the benefits of "stability" [ this is one of the main reasons for my love of berkeley_unix ; once something works , LEAVE_IT_ALONE !!! unfortunately , in the real world , rude third_parties make impositions upon decent people [ sigh ] ] . i am considering the "asus" brand , their_model "z170-k" , mobo , for my next two boxen . in addition to several usb ports , having various revision_numbers , it has separate ps2 ports [ hmmm ... , why "purple" and "green" ? ] . thus , one less variable , initially . because these k & m are my first usb_if devices , here_to_fore , in the bios_screens , always , i have disabled the usb_portion of my moboes . this has had the added advantage of suppressing , at shut_down , certain usb_related messages . of these usb_messages , on a 24_row screen , their inclusion caused other , more_important messages to be scrolled_up , far_enough , so that they fell_off of the top_edge of the world . although it is un_finished , as yet , the new vt(1) obviates this characteristic . the first box will use the ps2_if [ even if it requires a usb_if mouse to boot ; i hear stories ... ] ; this permits me to concentrate on the cpu/mobo configuration . the second box will use the usb_if , so that i may learn about it , as the ps2_if is , apparently , not long for this world . [ update 16_jul_10_sun --- i have ordered parts for four boxen , plus extras for spares ; of these parts , the last should arrive on 16_jul_11_mon ; mobo - asus z170-k ; cpu - intel i3_6320 , i5_6600 , two of each [ "skylake" , 14_nm ] ; dram - 64_gb each , 2133 , no over_clock [ i do not game ] ; hdd - seagate es.3 , 1_tb - 4_tb . the current boxen will be re_purposed [ intel celeron_440 [ "conroe_l" , 65_nm ] , 4_gb each ] . the initial build [ 10.3_amd64 ] , some time this week , will serve as a test_bed for your suggestions , as the current 9.3_amd64 and 10.2_i386 [ celeron ] boxen are in rather_heavy use , currently . i am assuming that the mouse will behave the same . later , i can apply the changes back_wards . also , the mobo has one of these new_fangled "m.2" pci_ex__3.0__x4 ports ; which intrigues me [ i have been doing some reading ] . did you know that the handbook says nothing about solid_state drives ? ] fyi , this next bit referred to psm(4) [ mea culpa ] . >> so i start reading [ man_pages , handbook , et_cetera ] ; >> eventually , i find the man_page about "/boot/device.hints" . >> i find words like "flags" , "resolution" and "acceleration" . >> i find an example for "psm0" . >> this looks promising . >> i check my boot messages ; >> >> psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 >> psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >> psm0: model Intellimouse, device ID 3 >> >> these are the same messages as those for >> the old mitsumi mouse on the 10.2 box ; >> i get the impression that all ps2 mice are pretty much the same . > > The easiest way to configure the mouse behaviour for the console > is using moused. In this case, accessing the settings via /dev/psm0 > (through the PS/2->USB adapter) is quite easy: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_type="auto" > moused_flags="-z 4" > moused_port="/dev/cuaa0" > moused_type="mousesystems" > moused_flags="-r 300 -a 2.0" > > This is an example from one of my older systems where a serial mouse > with 3 buttons needed adjustment for resolution and accelleration. > See "man moused" for details about the required flags. > > In your case, you'd probably have to use > > moused_type="auto" > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > > instead. You can try out various settings by first invoking moused > with the -d -f flags (print debugging messages, run in foreground), > and when you're happy with the settings, add them to /etc/rc.conf > accordingly. > > Note that using moused with USB devices is not that trivial as it > is controlled "dynamically" via devfs/devd, if I remember correctly. here is the relevant portion , from my "/etc/rc.conf" ; all are defaults , except "enable" [ i deleted and compressed much , due to "auto_wrap" ] . #. #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- moused_enable="YES" #srl set by srl . #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- #. #srl moused_nondefault_enable="YES" #bsd T... . #srl moused_enable="NO" #bsd R... . #srl moused_type="auto" #bsd S... . #srl moused_port="/dev/psm0" #bsd S... . #srl moused_flags="" #bsd A... . #srl mousechar_start="NO" #bsd i... . #. from what i read in moused(8) , along with "-d" and "-f" , "-r" , "-a" and "-A" should do the trick . i will "play" with it . [ note : i create my "/etc/rc.conf" [ and others ] in this manner . save any existing version that may have been installed . copy "/etc/defaults/rc.conf" to "/etc/rc.conf" . invoke vi(1) ; perform extensive editing , for readability [ according to --my-- needs ; ymmv ] . a] comment --every-- line , with --my-- comment_syntax , "#srl" , while preserving the bsd_markers as "#bsd" ; example : #srl #bsd thingy="mumble" #bsd comment . b] combine multi_line comments onto one line ; move right_ward . c] separate un_related groups of parameters with "#." . d] high_light changes by 0] enclosing them in a pair of horizontal_rule lines ; 1] adding the notation "#srlset by srl ." . e] add a comment_header at the top , for file_scope notes . f] add a line at the bottom , "#eof." . g] use to separate , clearly , code from comments . h] miscellaneous , as appropriate . this way , i have --one-- file , only , to manage . ] >> i note that there are no "flags" ; so i try that . >> i "guess" that flags of "0x01" and "0x04" will >> disable "acceleration" and >> set "resolution" to either extreme , one way or the other . >> if this works , >> then i should observe a 8:1 ratio for cursor distance ; >> all that i have to do is to pick a "comfortable" setting . >> >> well , that was the plan . >> it failed . > > As expected. :-) if you please , would you elaborate upon this ? your use of punctuation suggests that you know more than you are letting on . at the time , this method really did look like the correct one . >> let me emphasize : the new hardware --works-- . >> it is just that the cursor goes flying across the screen , >> for a small mouse_on_pad motion . >> positioning --is-- challenging . >> >> the flags --are-- recognized ; they appear in the boot messages ; >> for example , >> >> psm0: flags 0x1 irq 12 on atkbdc0 >> >> but the behavior does not change on either the console or the xterm . > > The console has a different mouse driver than X. For X, you need to > configure the mouse parameters using the tool your desktop environment > provides. If you're not using a DE, consider using /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > Again an example: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" > Option "EmulateWheel" > Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2" > EndSection > > You can set "Samplerate" and "Resolution" as well. You can find > even more options in the documentation. i am pleased to report that i no longer use a "desktop environment" . twenty_odd years ago , i tried that microsoft_brand "windows" thing ; specifically , 3.1 , 95 and 98se . in general , they are difficult to use , to configure and to program . further , i am pleased to report that i have had a "xorg.conf" file , in one location or another , since mr_lehey's second_edition . in fact , my "monitor" section still has "modeline"s ; i wonder if a way has been developed to probe the lcd_monitor for parameters ; that would be nice , but , i digress . again , the relevant portion : #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- #srl section_begin input device : mouse . #. Section "InputDevice" #. Identifier "mouse_3_button" #. Driver "mouse" #. Option "Protocol" "Auto" #srl ... . #. Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" #srl ... . #. #srl from here , all is commentary until "EndSection" . #. [ snip --- prior implementations , kept for historical reference ] #. EndSection #. #srl section_end input device : mouse . #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- i have never used any_thing else , in this section , because it was never necessary ; perhaps , it has become so . you give me some ideas ; i will do some "playing" , here , also . >> maybe the mouse has hardware limitations . > > That is possible. tbd . >> maybe there is some "buzzword" , of which i am unaware . >> which ignorance prevents further research by me . > > Yes, there is dynamic leverage synergetic mouse outsourcing for > startup unicorn capital growth inflation. :-) i laughed my_self silly . you have a sense_of_humor ; this is good . >> should i be trying to effect this change in "rc.conf" ? > > Yes. as above . >> should i be trying to effect this change in "X" ? > > Yes, as well. As I said, console and X use different mechanisms > for the mouse, so there are two different configurations needed. as above . >> ps --- does anyone know how to >> turn_off this narrow 65_column auto_wrap >> in the "thunderbird" editor ? > > Why is that a problem? You should breat your lines between column > 60 and 70. If you prefer to do this manually (as I do), you'll > find the relevant setting in the message compose configuration, > if I remember correctly. oh , dear . the nature of your response was completely un_expected . my initial reaction was one of shock ; since then , my shock has morphed into disappointment . no worries , mate ; i am not angry . because i am a subscriber to -questions@ , i have observed that you are a frequent responder , when so many posters echo the desperate cry of "tamino" : "zu hilfe , zu hilfe , sonst bin ich verloren" . i have no doubt that , certainly , most , if not all , readers , of this list , appreciate your willingness to take on this task . i do . permit me to answer you , one sentence at a time . 0] why is that a problem ? standing alone , this question is not un_reasonable . recently , thanks to this new mouse , i have discovered that i can "yank" text , from a xterm , and "print" it , into the "thunderbird" editor . on the surface , this appears to be A Good Thing . un_fortunately , "thunderbird" insists upon imposing its idea of good manners by re_formatting my text . it converts tabs to spaces and [ the affrontery ! ] it inserts line_breaks into the middle of blank_delimited words . for prose , this is not so bad ; for "computerese" , this is an un_qualified --disaster-- . above , each time , it required several minutes for me to re__re_format the result of what should have been a simple task . 1] you should break your lines between columns 60 and 70 . this assertion got my attention . the justly_famous person , lawrence wall , has proclaimed his , now , justly_famous motto , "there is more than one way to do it" . are you familiar with this ? although he was speaking of "perl" , his words apply to "unix" , as well . my writing style developed from observations that were made , during team code_review sessions , while sitting around the departmental conference table . how does one induce rapid comprehension of new information ? for prose , over time , i developed and refined this approach : a] sentences begin on a new line ; b] within a sentence , line breaks are placed --between-- clauses , not --within-- them ; c] de_limit clauses with the comma and the semi_colon ; d] paragraphs are separated by one blank line ; 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Thread-Topic: Has anybody tried Windows XP virtualization with bhyve ? 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Mon, 11 Jul 2016 06:23:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.203.130 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 06:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Vick Khera Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:23:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: CAM error in a VM To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 13:23:58 -0000 I saw these errors earlier from a FreeBSD 10.2 server running inside KVM on a linux (debian) host. What could possibly cause such hardware type errors within a VM? The KVM host is not very loaded at all. +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3b 9d 79 00 00 0a 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 38 d0 eb 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 36 b4 a5 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 74 bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 76 bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 78 bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 7a bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 75 bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 77 bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 79 bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 05 3a 7b bc 00 01 00 00 +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): CAM status: Command timeout +(da1:vtscsi0:0:0:1): Retrying command From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 14:41:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51ACB8F492 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solene@perso.pw) Received: from bsd.zplay.eu (perso.pw [62.210.240.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "bsd.zplay.eu", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D65118BD for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solene@perso.pw) Received: from bsd.zplay.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bsd.zplay.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 25772605 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:41:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=perso.pw; h=to:subject :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from :message-id; s=selector1; bh=O7N0P8fWXGR1klU1dy2td5LRlM4=; b=BOh 2qsqAXflxbKcJYwvmNP/D7wkwuHL1T7qsk8t3/fiKA+rJX6vMv6AkYkvkm/VoOZa zSTgZ9oaQPYT7AmiEN8DgNUjwt2VQZhy6wZ6I03n0lMnqDDYE+UjyQwGNN5Bpkvx pOKixB1tpKxSzp+kp7P0BX8P4hONITXyS3/T+0N8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=perso.pw; h=to:subject :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from :message-id; q=dns; s=selector1; b=B+hc1bYvQjhWBdfpFBrop9SZdKQTX AkdNjD8KMGizs4UqaL2x+U2lIVTyflwKmplbZhW+WIXTjebzBhMpyHC7M9VLVelC zFJ7ShKPktsLnlpAWEmryJHVAmXUnbKs6gncmeHYrmAoBsbM7rmZunUleshX9ThR deN1RXwwvlJ2zY= Received: from localhost (bsd.zplay.eu [local]) by bsd.zplay.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 12ed5e09 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:41:44 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: cp and mv behaviour on a busy binary file X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:41:44 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sol=C3=A8ne?= Message-ID: X-Sender: solene@perso.pw User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:41:58 -0000 Hello, I found a not coherent behaviour when overwriting a busy binary and I would like an explanation on this. When overwriting a busy binary file, without -f flag, cp won't copy the file over the executable while mv will ask if you really want to overwrite it. When using -f, they act the same, the file get overwrited. Example here : shell@example : cat test.c #include int main() { sleep(1000); return 0; } shell@example : clang test.c shell@example : ./a.out & <- I start the executable [1] 83540 shell@example : touch file shell@example : cp file a.out cp: a.out: Text file busy <- cp don't agree shell@example : mv file a.out override rwxr-xr-x solene/solene for a.out? (y/n [n]) y <--- mv asks Kind regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 14:55:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30380B8F938 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF501DF0 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F9A33C1E; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4071939819; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sol=E8ne?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cp and mv behaviour on a busy binary file References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:55:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Sol=E8ne=22's?= message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:41:44 +0200") Message-ID: <44eg70fcm0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:55:52 -0000 Sol=E8ne writes: > I found a not coherent behaviour when overwriting a busy binary and I > would like an explanation on this. > When overwriting a busy binary file, without -f flag, cp won't copy > the file over the executable while mv will ask if you really want to > overwrite it. > When using -f, they act the same, the file get overwrited. > > Example here : > > shell@example : cat test.c > #include > > int main() { > sleep(1000); > return 0; > } > shell@example : clang test.c > shell@example : ./a.out & <- I start the executable > [1] 83540 > shell@example : touch file > shell@example : cp file a.out > cp: a.out: Text file busy <- cp don't agree > shell@example : mv file a.out > override rwxr-xr-x solene/solene for a.out? (y/n [n]) y <--- mv asks I believe this behaviour is specifically required by POSIX. mv(1) must act according to rename(2) and cp(1) must act according to open(2). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 17:24:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821BB92E05 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5843167C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A052F276A1; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6BHNvGm002168; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:23:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:23:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: spellberg_robert Subject: Re: slowing_down a super_fast mouse Message-Id: <20160711192357.d30e9eea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <57831864.6000104@emailrob.com> References: <57689E95.2090502@emailrob.com> <20160621072354.575ae5a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <57831864.6000104@emailrob.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:24:08 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 03:54:12 +0000, spellberg_robert wrote: > On 06/21/16 05:23, Polytropon wrote: > > > > dear sir or madam --- Sir. :-) > i apologize for the delay of my response and my thanks . > however , as i am certain that you and other readers will appreciate , > since mid_day thursday [ jun_23 ] , here , at the salt_mine , > "brexit" has been creating additional work for me . return BREXIT_SUCCESS; /* see the brexit() manual page for details */ > as i do not know you personally , i find that > your appellation , "polytropon" , provides insufficient information , > for me to make the correct selection , > with a high probability of success . It's a handle I chose from the first few lines of Homer's "Odyssey" which means (if I understood the translation correctly) "far-traveled" or more precisely, "[man] of many turns". This is because I have seen more than my age justifies. ;-) > my online_search attempts have been fruitless > [ no doubt , i have not selected , as yet , the right engine ] . This is the intended purpose of a "pseudonym" handle. :-) > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:55:33 +0000, spellberg_robert wrote: > >> howdy , folks --- > >> > >> i hope that everyone is well . > >> > >> > >> > >> in anticipation of installing 10.3 , i have been buying new hardware > >> [ probably , intel "skylake" and "z170" , of some kind ] . > >> this new mechanical keyboard , "daskeyboard" , > >> with the cherry "blue" switches , is really nice , > > > > Yes, those are great, but nothing beats "IBM model M". :-) > > i believe that i have used one of those ; was it the kbd for the 3270 ? No, the classical 3270s had different (but also "clicking" keyboards). The later 3270 editions, as well as the 5250s, had the famous "model M" keys. They were also present on the IBM PS/2 PC keyboards (which I'm currently using). > >> [ before i did any editing , this post looked like > >> traudl junge's first effort for her new boss , > >> in that scene in "downfall" , at the beginning of the film > >> ] . > > > > Then compare to the "typist audition" in "Schindler's List" > > for improvement. :-) > > i do not have that one in my library > [ i --did-- see it once , though , long ago ] . I found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmsmPWEqkWY > >> the ps2 keyboards and mice actually have usb interfaces , > >> with usb/ps2 adapters , plugged into ps2 ports . > >> from what i read on wikipedia , > >> these should look like ps2 devices to the ps2 ports . > >> the six_years_old moboes --do-- have usb ports of some kind , > >> but this is my first usb equipment , > >> therefore , i have no usb experience . > > > > Then why don't you use them natively via USB? Basically, it should > > work out of the box (as the kernel provides ukbd and ums drivers). > > now , --this-- is a very good question . > > essentially , most_of_the_time , i am a "late adopter" > [ but , as i said , above , i am considering "skylake" ; > whoda thunkit ? > ] . > when i change things , i like to change them one_at_a_time . > this comes from my engineering mind_set ; > change one variable , then , see what happened . A lesson we all learn at some point. :-) > this has had the added advantage of suppressing , at shut_down , > certain usb_related messages . > of these usb_messages , on a 24_row screen , their inclusion caused > other , more_important messages to be scrolled_up , > far_enough , so that they fell_off of the top_edge of the world . They are sill available in the line buffer, which you can scroll using the "Scroll Lock" key. > fyi , this next bit referred to psm(4) [ mea culpa ] . > > >> so i start reading [ man_pages , handbook , et_cetera ] ; > >> eventually , i find the man_page about "/boot/device.hints" . > >> i find words like "flags" , "resolution" and "acceleration" . > >> i find an example for "psm0" . > >> this looks promising . > >> i check my boot messages ; > >> > >> psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > >> psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > >> psm0: model Intellimouse, device ID 3 > >> > >> these are the same messages as those for > >> the old mitsumi mouse on the 10.2 box ; > >> i get the impression that all ps2 mice are pretty much the same . > > > > The easiest way to configure the mouse behaviour for the console > > is using moused. In this case, accessing the settings via /dev/psm0 > > (through the PS/2->USB adapter) is quite easy: > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > moused_type="auto" > > moused_flags="-z 4" > > moused_port="/dev/cuaa0" > > moused_type="mousesystems" > > moused_flags="-r 300 -a 2.0" > > > > This is an example from one of my older systems where a serial mouse > > with 3 buttons needed adjustment for resolution and accelleration. > > See "man moused" for details about the required flags. > > > > In your case, you'd probably have to use > > > > moused_type="auto" > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > > > > instead. You can try out various settings by first invoking moused > > with the -d -f flags (print debugging messages, run in foreground), > > and when you're happy with the settings, add them to /etc/rc.conf > > accordingly. > > > > Note that using moused with USB devices is not that trivial as it > > is controlled "dynamically" via devfs/devd, if I remember correctly. > > here is the relevant portion , from my "/etc/rc.conf" ; > all are defaults , except "enable" > [ i deleted and compressed much , due to "auto_wrap" ] . > > #. > #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- > moused_enable="YES" #srl set by srl . > #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- > #. > #srl moused_nondefault_enable="YES" #bsd T... . > #srl moused_enable="NO" #bsd R... . > #srl moused_type="auto" #bsd S... . > #srl moused_port="/dev/psm0" #bsd S... . > #srl moused_flags="" #bsd A... . > #srl mousechar_start="NO" #bsd i... . > #. Just a question to make sure I'm not misinterpreting the text: Do the lines begin with "#srl"? Always keep in mind that /etc/rc.conf is a shell script, it is sourced (read + executed) by several other scripts, so it needs to conform to sh syntax. So if you do something like setting #comment foo="bar" # another comment the whole line is commented out: # means "comment until end of line". > from what i read in moused(8) , along with "-d" and "-f" , > "-r" , "-a" and "-A" should do the trick . > i will "play" with it . This is a very convenient way to check things, especially if you need to adjust accelleration or threshold. The final values can then be put into /etc/rc.conf for permanent use. > [ note : i create my "/etc/rc.conf" [ and others ] in this manner . > > save any existing version that may have been installed . > copy "/etc/defaults/rc.conf" to "/etc/rc.conf" . That step is not needed, as /etc/defaults/rc.conf is sourced (see above) prior to /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.local, so you only need to have the values you want to change in your configuration file. > invoke vi(1) ; perform extensive editing , > for readability [ according to --my-- needs ; ymmv ] . > > a] comment --every-- line , > with --my-- comment_syntax , "#srl" , > while preserving the bsd_markers as "#bsd" ; example : > > #srl #bsd thingy="mumble" #bsd comment . > > b] combine multi_line comments onto one line ; move right_ward . > c] separate un_related groups of parameters with "#." . > d] high_light changes by > 0] enclosing them in a pair of horizontal_rule lines ; > 1] adding the notation "#srlset by srl ." . > e] add a comment_header at the top , for file_scope notes . > f] add a line at the bottom , "#eof." . > g] use to separate , clearly , code from comments . > h] miscellaneous , as appropriate . > > this way , i have --one-- file , only , to manage . > ] You always only have one file to manage - /etc/defaults/rc.conf is incorporated automatically. Also note that this file might change during a system update, so defaults could change. If you set your own values anyway - no problem, but if the default _needs_ to be changed, and your configuration file has a different setting, you'd have to manually compare both files to find potential changes after the upgrading process. Summary: Only put into /etc/rc.conf what you need to set differently than /etc/defaults/rc.conf. See "man rc" and "man rc.conf" for details. > >> i note that there are no "flags" ; so i try that . > >> i "guess" that flags of "0x01" and "0x04" will > >> disable "acceleration" and > >> set "resolution" to either extreme , one way or the other . > >> if this works , > >> then i should observe a 8:1 ratio for cursor distance ; > >> all that i have to do is to pick a "comfortable" setting . > >> > >> well , that was the plan . > >> it failed . > > > > As expected. :-) > > if you please , would you elaborate upon this ? > your use of punctuation suggests that > you know more than you are letting on . You can conclude that from punctuation? I always thought it just illustrates how bad my English is... > at the time , this method really did look like the correct one . This method doesn't seem to apply to PS/2 or USB mice, if I remember correctly. Additionally, as X provides its own input drivers, I doubt it would care for psm flags. > >> let me emphasize : the new hardware --works-- . > >> it is just that the cursor goes flying across the screen , > >> for a small mouse_on_pad motion . > >> positioning --is-- challenging . > >> > >> the flags --are-- recognized ; they appear in the boot messages ; > >> for example , > >> > >> psm0: flags 0x1 irq 12 on atkbdc0 > >> > >> but the behavior does not change on either the console or the xterm . > > > > The console has a different mouse driver than X. For X, you need to > > configure the mouse parameters using the tool your desktop environment > > provides. If you're not using a DE, consider using /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > Again an example: > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" > > Option "EmulateWheel" > > Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2" > > EndSection > > > > You can set "Samplerate" and "Resolution" as well. You can find > > even more options in the documentation. > > i am pleased to report that i no longer use a "desktop environment" . > twenty_odd years ago , i tried that microsoft_brand "windows" thing ; > specifically , 3.1 , 95 and 98se . > in general , they are difficult to use , to configure and to program . Timeless statement. :-) > further , i am pleased to report that i have had a "xorg.conf" file , > in one location or another , since mr_lehey's second_edition . This file makes sense for machines where you need to have settings that are not provided by the desktop environment (such as keyboard layout or specific mouse flags), and you want to have them in _one_ central location. In the past, there was much trouble with HAL, DBus, ConsoleKit, PolicyKit, NonsenseKit and whatnot, and configuration details were scattered across the /usr/local subtree, in XML files. The xorg.conf file frees you from this trouble. It also makes sense where autodetection magic doesn't work as inteded, for example, if the screen manufacturer chose to report bogus data, or no data at all, and a "native screen resolution" cannot be determined. For hardware that doesn't change it's very convenient. A great advantage is the possibility to use a "partial xorg.conf" where you only need to have the sections you _really_ need - and have everything else automatically detected. For _modern_ hardware, xorg.conf shouldn't be needed anymore. > in fact , my "monitor" section still has "modeline"s ; > i wonder if a way has been developed to > probe the lcd_monitor for parameters ; > that would be nice , but , i digress . Yes, EDID should do that. But it's not like this is something new. > again , the relevant portion : > > #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- > #srl section_begin input device : mouse . > #. > Section "InputDevice" > #. > Identifier "mouse_3_button" > #. > Driver "mouse" > #. > Option "Protocol" "Auto" #srl ... . > #. > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" #srl ... . > #. > #srl from here , all is commentary until "EndSection" . > #. > > [ snip --- prior implementations , kept for historical reference ] > > #. > EndSection > #. > #srl section_end input device : mouse . > #---+240+-30+a--1---+---+---+---2---+---+---+---3---+---+---+--- Looks fairly standard so you should be able to entirely omit it. > i have never used any_thing else , in this section , > because it was never necessary ; perhaps , it has become so . > you give me some ideas ; i will do some "playing" , here , also . There are a few parameters to affect mouse behaviour X-wide, as mentioned above. You need to check what works for you. > >> maybe there is some "buzzword" , of which i am unaware . > >> which ignorance prevents further research by me . > > > > Yes, there is dynamic leverage synergetic mouse outsourcing for > > startup unicorn capital growth inflation. :-) > > i laughed my_self silly . > you have a sense_of_humor ; this is good . It's required to survive "in the industry". ;-) > >> ps --- does anyone know how to > >> turn_off this narrow 65_column auto_wrap > >> in the "thunderbird" editor ? > > > > Why is that a problem? You should breat your lines between column > > 60 and 70. If you prefer to do this manually (as I do), you'll > > find the relevant setting in the message compose configuration, > > if I remember correctly. > > oh , dear . > > the nature of your response was completely un_expected . > my initial reaction was one of shock ; > since then , my shock has morphed into disappointment . > no worries , mate ; i am not angry . > > because i am a subscriber to -questions@ , > i have observed that you are a frequent responder , > when so many posters echo the desperate cry of "tamino" : > "zu hilfe , zu hilfe , sonst bin ich verloren" . Silence. :-) > 0] why is that a problem ? > > standing alone , this question is not un_reasonable . > > recently , thanks to this new mouse , i have discovered that > i can "yank" text , from a xterm , and "print" it , > into the "thunderbird" editor . > on the surface , this appears to be A Good Thing . That's something I'm doing for decades now: Select with left button, copy with middle button. It's a very handy way to add a "screenshot" (of text) to a message, or to quote text from a manpage. > un_fortunately , > "thunderbird" insists upon imposing its idea of good manners > by re_formatting my text . Does it even do that when the annoying "HTML mail" composition has been switched off? > it converts tabs to spaces and [ the affrontery ! ] > it inserts line_breaks into the middle of blank_delimited words . Tabs to spaces seems to be normal, my mail composer in Sylpheed does this too, probably because the terminal window - when captured from - does not represent tabs as tabs, but as "logical spaces", so at least this part makes sense. > for prose , this is not so bad ; > for "computerese" , this is an un_qualified --disaster-- . > above , each time , it required several minutes for me to > re__re_format the result of what should have been a simple task . This is why I sometimes prefer to re-edit the text and turn the spaces into tabs manually again (which takes some time, but I prefer the text to be readable in its initial form, especially when it's a code snippet that the recipient wants to save to a file - and of course expects that the indentation is a tab, not 8 spaces). > 1] you should break your lines between columns 60 and 70 . > > this assertion got my attention . > > the justly_famous person , lawrence wall , has proclaimed > his , now , justly_famous motto , > "there is more than one way to do it" . > are you familiar with this ? Yes, there is more than one way to limit the line length. :-) Here is a ruler for 70 columns: ....+....1....+....2....+....3....+....4....+....5....+....6....+....7 I have this "ISPF/PDF ruler" forced on top of vim. :-) The Sylpheed composer window uses a fixed-width font and has a ruler on top; I set the window width so that column 80 is near where the window ends. Window end means line end. :-) > my writing style developed from observations that were made , > during team code_review sessions , > while sitting around the departmental conference table . > how does one induce rapid comprehension of new information ? > > for prose , over time , i developed and refined this approach : > a] sentences begin on a new line ; > b] within a sentence , line breaks are placed --between-- clauses , > not --within-- them ; Which seems to be good for English as the grammar is a more strict element of language (unlike German where you basically write as you want, especially after the "spelling reforms"). > normally , i write on a page that has a width of 318 characters . > this is wide for prose , but , it is just_about right for code . > of course , different people have different ways . > for this list , i would use a width of 132 characters . That looks like the "extended width IBM 3270". :-) > i propose a compromise : > i will not demand that you write according to my "manual of style" , > if you do not demand that i write according to yours . The suggestion of the "max. 70 column rule" (others say 72 or 68) is primarily because of quoting behaviour of mail clients. The historical reason is the 80 column default terminal width inherited from Mr. Hollerith. If you check the message archive of this mailing list, as well as archives of other mailing lists, you'll see that this rule is often followed. Some mail clients are unable to automatically wrap text, so you'd get long lines and have to manually deal with them while reading. This might apply to mobile devices (which I'm not using for mail, so I don't have a usable opinion here). Another suggestion is to not top-post for obvious reasons. Of course, those all are just suggestions, but they are there for some reason, and usually make handling the lists (reading them, replying to them) easier for all participants. > 2] you'll find the relevant setting in > the message compose configuration . > > hmmm ... , did you configure and compile from "ports" ? > mine is the "package" from 9.3_amd64 [ 24.4.0 ] . > there is --nothing-- , --any_where-- , regarding "wrap" . Because Thunderbird became too slow and unconvenient for me, I don't use it regularly, that's why I couldn't be more precise, sorry. However: I did check google and... it seems that those settings actually have been removed! So no wonder you couldn't find them anywhere. Luckily, there are "hidden settings" that can be used; quote: Removed Preferences These depreciated or not frequently used preferences were removed from the Options, but are still available as "hidden" preferences through the Config Editor. Display settings, Fonts dialog: - "Apply default character encoding..." mailnews.force_charset_override (defaults to false). Composition settings: - "For messages that contain 8-bit..." mail.strictly_mime (defaults to false). - "Wrap plain text messages at..." mailnews.wraplength (defaults to 72). Advanced settings: - "Remember the last selected message" mailnews.remember_selected_message (defaults to true). - "Connection timeout" mailnews.tcptimeout (new default 100, affects all protocols: IMAP/POP3/NNTP/SMTP). Source: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes#Removed_Preferences So using the "Config Editor" is the key. > i re_pose the question : > does any_one know how to defeat this "feature" ? There is an "Extension" as well to toggle word wrap: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/toggle-word-wrap/ Interesting aspect... basic functionality can only be used via external dependencies... I bet this is what they call "modular" today. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 18:08:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DC4B92F4B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2C381A63 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20AA03CCF4; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6BI86HE002414; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:08:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:08:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nikos Vassiliadis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jobs control in a /bin/sh script Message-Id: <20160711200806.14b4e22f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3b55e09b-13d3-bdf2-e366-2c798ca9c1d2@gmx.com> References: <930cbcd1-2345-8a55-1b87-1691f5aa09a1@gmx.com> <20160710175219.48ef1d1a.freebsd@edvax.de> <3b55e09b-13d3-bdf2-e366-2c798ca9c1d2@gmx.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:08:16 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 21:49:51 +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > > On 07/10/16 18:52, Polytropon wrote: > > JOBS=`jobs -p` > > Thank you, that would do what I want. It's rather strange that > the other construct doesn't work. But this workaround would do:) In case of a shell script, calling the "jobs" command will invoke an internal (shell builtin) command, and this one seems to be unable to use redirection. There also is the /usr/bin/jobs binary, but it doesn't seem to work as desired in the scripting context... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:57:10 -0000 I have our testing Samba4.3 AD-DC set up as a guest using bhyve-vm with a zfs file system (both host and vm). Has anyone successfully implemented roaming profiles using this setup? If do did you need to build Samba or did the pkg binary suffice? I note that Samba4.3 as built does not have LIBACL enabled. I infer from this that I will need to perform a customised build from the ports collection. 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From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: OpenWRT Message-ID: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:02:28 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:59:26 -0000 Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is defunct, pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but nothing promising .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. 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Wandersee To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Spell checking not working In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:40:57 -0500 Message-ID: <86twfwq7xy.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:04:50 -0000 Manish Jain writes: > Hi, > > I am using FreeBSD 10.2 amd64 here with gnome3 - everything installed via pkg. > > None of my applications that use spell checking - AbiWord and Geary - are able to check spelling, although my environment seems okay : You need to install the Aspell and Hunspell dictionaries for your native language. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 20:31:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1C7B923CD; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-188.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F6F6139D; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [10.9.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u6BK3iHi005578 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:03:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u6BK3ihY005577; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:03:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: OpenWRT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:03:44 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <2007220aca776d692b08fb86aa1561f7@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:31:04 -0000 On 2016-07-11 3:02 pm, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is > defunct, pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but > nothing promising .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III Try https://pfSense.org or https://opensense.org, pfSense was first, continuing on after monowall, OPNSense is a fork made from pfSense. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 20:46:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EC0B92822; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-188.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BBC81CFD; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [10.9.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u6BKkleN007558 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:46:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u6BKkkUS007557; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:46:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: OpenWRT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:46:46 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <2007220aca776d692b08fb86aa1561f7@dweimer.net> References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <2007220aca776d692b08fb86aa1561f7@dweimer.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:46:49 -0000 On 2016-07-11 3:03 pm, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > On 2016-07-11 3:02 pm, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is >> defunct, pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but >> nothing promising .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. >> >> >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III > > Try https://pfSense.org or https://opensense.org, pfSense was first, > continuing on after monowall, OPNSense is a fork made from pfSense. oops, had an extra letter in the second one, https://opnsense.org -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 21:25:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2867DB92837 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B256B1E63 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id f65so78819983wmi.0 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:25:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=GEoQaec7zUVFwHV6AhLHoXCZuDyzvS2zqW9juYxgOeQ=; b=g1Mhhp0UApWibcwzS1cVbFlUGyCyRhlOTHVkQF/qGPCW/uu2s3+Jbg4jnrqYYFq1dm Xc8WcmYIlJEP2vGpm6cSzI6i4DwyTFCTjGYeM0I7mGW+xmu4n8KZB0vXLBn0Xt+erwpn rW7x3lkefthF+fCLIGz6RnFCCdZJ6d3BGDUHDXGADszgmpSWY4wjPBK7SF9wrtmgiz+h XZuQ2Ff+tIfbTL1E1MSh3BSOf4ZlIqDQ5zoZYRUM/QNb+xP3u6xbCnZx9dfliZw2KYX7 ylrdlDvE8tVLhd1TDuKUn66rCMa4wI0Saczm651GpCfqQsPlEzFdRwR9UuZBa127RYJh NzSA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=GEoQaec7zUVFwHV6AhLHoXCZuDyzvS2zqW9juYxgOeQ=; b=HtuZus0oQsQ6tbn+SlXFmhrtG0Z3+kieuLERVkaX8qOE5W3FfqesWxNnR/am1KC+/n rbUoiGIZa1udHb6yk0/duh8hfUtB7cq52YqGitgFm1+H9CdFAo0E9Sj/QFUpm5+flyAx sxQmF3r/280msiwQTadYM9vnHNB5AahySnjTq2sGztpBjvfV1/BRsKChoRsms4ZPXZjc gkgpwK43jg0BaWIvnUQHc2Eg07Jht12uFD2NMk7xWHhPIuBqea6fMRdMduS90ihDKB7X JyGc/EQP064QIbNitTYjhg1ED3/dt7OhzplLaeKYaDnCdvo1qOqCi/P21HiTSgIn0/49 jsRA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLlzXULbammBy8FPmcgSmvNIxQi90hwcILCqPqYfL1JcbJeqtXrkcgiHkOGykwld8hyQsk5nhzQcwl9Uw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.100.70 with SMTP id y67mr489714wmb.23.1468272317193; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.222.169 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:25:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:25:17 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenWRT From: Ben Woods To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:25:20 -0000 On Monday, 11 July 2016, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is defunct, > pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but nothing promising > .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. > If you want something like monowall, it has been forked and named t1n1wall. If you just want to install basic freebsd on a wifi router, you should check this out: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-wifi-build/wiki Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 22:38:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE67B92C8A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 471CE1DE1 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id v6so159116225vkb.2 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9RJZr+GNR09W/LqoN+25Smtxjxn6++0Ewd+/njcmaOI=; b=cYwOPQU04ThZNG37TrLNLsfwnvB787zKBtlandk2/AKKa/h53Zaj/u9whdXDhY3J2r wW/7nAWM0DSJcyF2EFXYrYyakGQpmVzOevRPvk1Vf+OjBXN8zVTzpTvagv62RMNNoGkr hdWaFWNDIbAJmn2utfLyHQh8bn+P0/dhwI9Ziqf7j4tGAmpIceZ5qRIe4f7xzdP0E57L +4oYELqravBZt8F+1LgBpbKDkLRlf+i1tODj93iM/xfBW/cD+otQWQzJ84znaxZJQmA8 XF0+AMSAjLY9diUH3kaFPjwVRBUQ0y50JLASNMQkWFgqOLwqSfFFOqH2Zng7IjDbdJOl Q8Sg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9RJZr+GNR09W/LqoN+25Smtxjxn6++0Ewd+/njcmaOI=; b=b6KneQRweV06niE0aCiI72tKus7sSPq9IzdZjhjylLJNnNnYTJ5szKNBAZ437ln8Ii EMap3KiW+Q+PYqQSD+Z8TluKYqlUyb3WQv6J/mVm0/j2jo4e0C70gzNsLJGSz7MVsgd5 HAvj+7zpNEFKsmoUa9fd3L+R/ltcXyJpfLPpXRDqixq7OwDtVX/OpyDtCW5IKKoRwCXz mtrJYIaBB6a1cH97MxvPqVQ3MyD3ZaKWsEs5beyNQB2mQbVHdbaNMEroQkXw6fOHBqxa WcahOeJB/cWWotINmhWjwiiz2SBeO/45lJ9TVrKZM5CG2oPPZEYuawQQxQvRb6p/mFoq 3Q/w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI8yeGV3GjZ7MLr5VPbHaLBRsuaDn0ZQEWUnuwmO0amp2asZoddLrjdn1Nl46uBI8dptFaWC+jOJnihcw== X-Received: by 10.159.38.47 with SMTP id 44mr9221638uag.70.1468276720165; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.68.1 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleksandr Miroslav Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: recording Internet radio? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:38:41 -0000 Is there something I can install from ports on a server to record Internet radio? There is a show that plays outside the timezone I live in that I would like to record and listen to offline/later. thank you, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 22:50:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E9CB92056 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71A5416C3 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B47653CD0B; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:50:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6BMnxAj002851; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:49:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:49:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Aleksandr Miroslav Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recording Internet radio? Message-Id: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:50:04 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:39 -0700, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > Is there something I can install from ports on a server to record Internet > radio? There is a show that plays outside the timezone I live in that I > would like to record and listen to offline/later. If you can stream it (without the need of using a web browser), maybe mplayer/mencoder or rtmpdump could be used. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 01:52:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320E1B84463 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDCF21778 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bMmrs-0008Bk-Ee for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:52:12 +0200 Received: from vps.jonz.net ([216.17.42.81]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:52:12 +0200 Received: from SPAM_TRAP_gmane by vps.jonz.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:52:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonesy Subject: Re: recording Internet radio? Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vps.jonz.net User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:52:24 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:49:59 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:39 -0700, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: >> Is there something I can install from ports on a server to record Internet >> radio? There is a show that plays outside the timezone I live in that I >> would like to record and listen to offline/later. > > If you can stream it (without the need of using a web browser), > maybe mplayer/mencoder or rtmpdump could be used. Also, streamripper Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 03:25:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2597AB91A03 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBB141C2B for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6C3P8cv001475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:25:09 -0500 Subject: Re: OpenWRT References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <2007220aca776d692b08fb86aa1561f7@dweimer.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:30:38 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:25:12 -0000 On 07/11/16 15:53, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > On 2016-07-11 3:03 pm, Dean E. Weimer wrote: >> On 2016-07-11 3:02 pm, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is >>> defunct, pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but >>> nothing promising .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> Try https://pfSense.org or https://opensense.org, pfSense was first, >> continuing on after monowall, OPNSense is a fork made from pfSense. > > oops, had an extra letter in the second one, https://opnsense.org > Yeah I found it, not clear if it is still i386/AMD64 only, kinda looks lie it, I was hoping for something that covered more hardware. Thanks :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 03:25:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4664B91AE1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866041E6E for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6C3Ptcc001623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:25:56 -0500 Subject: Re: OpenWRT References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:31:25 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 03:25:57 -0000 On 07/11/16 16:31, Ben Woods wrote: > On Monday, 11 July 2016, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> >> Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is defunct, >> pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but nothing promising >> .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. >> > If you want something like monowall, it has been forked and named t1n1wall. > > If you just want to install basic freebsd on a wifi router, you should > check this out: > https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-wifi-build/wiki > > Regards, > Ben > > Aaaaaaaaaahhh !!!! I think we have a winner. Thanks :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 04:45:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BB2B9233B for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 04:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63BBC1DF4 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 04:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6C4jJgc080579 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 06:45:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 06:45:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 04:45:31 -0000 On 2016-07-10 11:27, Stari Karp wrote: > On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: >>> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 >>> glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 >>> gmodule-export-2.0 >>> gnome-desktop-3.0 >>> folks >= 0.9.5 >>> folks-telepathy >>> folks-eds >>> libnotify >>> telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 >>> libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>> libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>> libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>> goa-1.0 >>> gee-0.8 >>> champlain-0.12 >>> clutter-gtk-1.0 >>> geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 >>> ) were not met: >> There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. > The ports are updated and problem exist. Your ports tree is not up to date. That is why configure complain. gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 you have a version prior to 3.16.0 Same with the other files that have the >= sign. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 08:17:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4954EB92894 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4F341E0B for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id f65so91466238wmi.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:17:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QwJ/98+SYODfik2gOirhlA1/Wf2sn310EXlII3MReIQ=; b=cFvrsvn736HHvXBCO6PtsXK3HF/c4Eb2F36WyI4wC0RnNbSsjKVm/76C5HhfR1UTfn +Kk0L81eeayz/rqEsB/5M/bVPXToa78P586iVMsLbJYQASjVM6n1wNXyUklfQONcAW5L 5H96RrhaC4PdrKbyx4wA1p3rYY6PIu6GsyaTGA5xCowjdCswBghKrgGQywJkr5Fs5apv kGaH5ptTaTYj76xExwDTcOw8+WQq4traYA6gayiFeWyM6kAuXsVECb9PjIrw9atpYSNY wAtR78/qLODmFy94bNwnUyYVLcyXUogZC/3RVVNZWHUWOhkCo1/zLnTBW6viMGorPESQ kQ1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QwJ/98+SYODfik2gOirhlA1/Wf2sn310EXlII3MReIQ=; b=BvFHCqsKAxsI2AP3QcHRdAxj7tpetbO9tYBoP+1MtiTJVCTKI5Yp0bJCmzlu9+mBsl QAnzIPyyvka9wr9+ceelMgeFtL/UaPAs5i34ouQ3OXmPH+3Vc7RNRslZSm3MEnzT0Sim UhymQx450R7pZIn96OZhWLwGNa3RJWbY9oTFOO1sw4+9qlrRuGSrVnbFzU3ObyFhrsEg jfK57suVArkq07HKWAqkCeQYTfV/z5zN8hNbDPs4eDGbncMsM+rdusIxvV2dOd/nOLsE KxNgjujmtRUezua4YP6oCnVS1QCCrxEbNo6bhB73IsKksHzioQd8iw1PdtzDiLygriHL Ui3g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ2hdyHEGW3DFZp6/bWLzK62WELnWz/R8qg+49LuRcAxY9Us7ykCigbM9F5oTHKz+AshTpRxCPCxJN15Q== X-Received: by 10.28.155.196 with SMTP id d187mr18693872wme.30.1468307669523; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:14:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.216.81 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:14:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> From: krad Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:14:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenWRT To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:17:35 -0000 One problem you will run into with freebsd as a wireless router is wifi support. It's generally not as good as linux, especially in ap mode which you will need, and last time I looked there was no hint of AC support. I maybe out of date on this though. If you just want wired stuff then you should be fine though. On 12 July 2016 at 04:24, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 07/11/16 16:31, Ben Woods wrote: > >> On Monday, 11 July 2016, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> >>> Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? M0n0wall is >>> defunct, >>> pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but nothing >>> promising >>> .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. >>> >>> If you want something like monowall, it has been forked and named >> t1n1wall. >> >> If you just want to install basic freebsd on a wifi router, you should >> check this out: >> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-wifi-build/wiki >> >> Regards, >> Ben >> >> >> > > Aaaaaaaaaahhh !!!! I think we have a winner. Thanks :-). > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 08:21:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAB7B92C2C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhenin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x22f.google.com (mail-lf0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2171194E for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhenin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id f93so5864150lfi.2 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:21:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=U4J4Hy/QuRKwehiRI2dqNoAdGZYTbiUsfmfWyyYCVRc=; b=O3FqN0nYYeNnhNcqHF1j0ZMcj6rkDtaabfDvgdsGSJjBn5nlzEZCeETH8ggAfPjxan R7DvAYjsGZV1PGZbB3ldVEEmEIFj4vz5Tlwy7myDSI/sFh3xYDF44zBrd9Sw+qGSNBRw EbXgmoZ7+NPJCaT9pxmQ2gzljezqFWVZxKw6OPUxBVj7x6jdiiaGRj3H+1Pf3wf5vsU2 yGNsRl03SxysolE2jTHc4DomGTP1omZimUy2Oqd3p8m8wbHvrjILh7wXh2LaibCt0fll p6zNpEpxOxkNprrLqs9LMp+DGG+h5IBxr9kKzqUt2FiH/qRagRScE5U6gUMF+BDgmPEP g0yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=U4J4Hy/QuRKwehiRI2dqNoAdGZYTbiUsfmfWyyYCVRc=; b=EhOG66SmaNod0RMIRiKxKKD/wkW23Uugi9F16jVDos99VQN0btlI2ZSWrlZM4/N7hy AuyVcnV5ORtLZhc76RQCpd996Kkq/U6QblhnjycTtiu49URW/KYv0cdEAxtrPX1ZYrgC EUFu7OH8EWN8C+R11VD0tqw1rb+qz0xEo6Op6/umvf1EJHcFTtneBKLOPVLi5zLT9al2 blUnIukCqvGz2QNAWhqWjQWSUz57nony0YBPaal5Quk+SZ0Sp5LG0CozPSNhQPIW1Uyf moejSr5bFc7VNA2eGnKF8bbSE+sRvMd3I/sHjt3oonomKZlfAgtRYA7OY67QWetGS/x8 dKTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIkGOApn6/MBuOH9zHYhej70eZ2wWk/exDkn/ATvjO7SWuxJ8Q6nFiFzZpu5FqGYHammDeVK6VgM3i4uw== X-Received: by 10.46.0.32 with SMTP id 32mr193395lja.40.1468305597597; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:39:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.26.199 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: dhenin@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> From: =?UTF-8?B?KOKAouKAv+KAoikgIERow6luaW4gSmVhbi1KYWNxdWVz?= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:39:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recording Internet radio? To: Jonesy Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:21:57 -0000 2016-07-12 3:51 GMT+02:00 Jonesy via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:49:59 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:38:39 -0700, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > >> Is there something I can install from ports on a server to record > Internet > >> radio? There is a show that plays outside the timezone I live in that = I > >> would like to record and listen to offline/later. > > > > If you can stream it (without the need of using a web browser), > > maybe mplayer/mencoder or rtmpdump could be used. > > Also, streamripper > > Jonesy > -- > Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux > 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD > * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -----------------%><-------------------------------------------------------= -------- #! /bin/sh # 1h =3D 3600 # 1h30 =3D 5400 # 2h =3D 7200 # 2h30 =3D 9000 # 5h (une nuit fc) =3D 18000 # 6h00 =3D 24000 TERM=3Dxterm DUREE=3D$1 echo "killall mplayer" | at +$DUREE minutes cd ~/Desktop/Les_nuits # -noconsolecontrols /usr/local/bin/mplayer -noconsolecontrols -really-quiet -slave -ao pcm:file=3D"`date "+%j-%Hh%M"`.wav" \ http://audio.scdn.arkena.com/11010/franceculture-midfi128.mp3 -----------------%><-------------------------------------------------------= -------- --------------------------------------------------------- (V) Dh=C3=A9nin Jean-Jacques ( ..) 48, rue de la Justice 78300 Poissy c(')(') dhenin@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 08:32:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14B7B932FB for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 762241DFD for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id o80so15353602wme.1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:32:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=HiDeBASJ1vA5uGm3LIqX3QYpLVWsPkwPxGhBF2mt+NE=; b=TYdtOPovJ4VesUJ7Jfn22MAi9OeaP8IKostKnHYu0LKNypau/zBRouXG73FAl2SkTL x+iT1p5JSLfQEiAcd8lspm4BOIJoJevlU8s6ikzfH0IU57WBExnfD4jzv+4473bp7S5D fXwtGbu2GbAIC7xH3Qb0YZwr1qbb7WVO2nfRot3OQ2iX8HAa9pRQhwl7HJKuftIjhCgu 8gLFqHSm7a3F97U2QXuSJM6NfVaqqtemQzZNEDnZ3O6wVjf89m5QeAHzPAd4Cq2fW9WZ hPpL/KGVQC0efXOCJbStImSmOeUqfWgtReGR7+8gbAV/MJooRRJbBE3m37gg6wWcQfab +oeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=HiDeBASJ1vA5uGm3LIqX3QYpLVWsPkwPxGhBF2mt+NE=; b=dhFQ+w78EX25r6H66w6LHpprLQ6cum/Dpho5xk8PhAY9N8g7tex9bHh6TXzFBYEAlc MWG/LUPiO5gUg7Gpc/50J/lMivU6Z7ALKFtFgeEjIi6Kcs09T5AmQ0bBHEX7dfz1XPa1 RGV7CuL8N+rFTzBnugjES0bqgGWpB7IqUtdW0jOgoGEaBqtAfZESWmxu2nclEXdHq1oU 467ETXRIFFVOys2Y5iT5hsqq/+FKNoDhZxZEpnyjAlbbdFJQ2Z4C/TpJjx9DeN4RiGcX oum3Eam53HCJJ8KgJExSaMUiU0OpcrYcGit1Q0bpjQys4cTIX+fjQHaQAAtrMXPP7CzL Ox+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKijImNMKXQNO7TBaHSajjICR113S4qY8UkVDF3eneXdxp7d0c83D8JKLXWzJTLcF0AbsLNY/6oTFYMRg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.133.104 with SMTP id pb8mr1101698wjb.155.1468312376115; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.222.169 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:32:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:32:56 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenWRT From: Ben Woods To: krad Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:32:58 -0000 On Tuesday, 12 July 2016, krad wrote: > One problem you will run into with freebsd as a wireless router is wifi > support. It's generally not as good as linux, especially in ap mode which > you will need, and last time I looked there was no hint of AC support. I > maybe out of date on this though. If you just want wired stuff then you > should be fine though. > It's worth pointing out that Atheros has very good AP mode support - I am running FreeBSD wifi AP as my home router without any difficulties. Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 09:45:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32556B90951 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FD971CBB for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id f126so121422862wma.1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 02:45:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9LNOMloodCOEa1KAojCt80Pq84g4E/58Y/d+SoUOxbI=; b=UI8Uem0uUS89Zm5jvPW/4UY61SpDQutLnmENLf+biiZxCHvu15MgvhzWRK+O3fkHuV AqFTcvD7GVq1KFQP9oPj+eMqqdTdVK+2Hxk8aRfdJWQHGqdE1Q6CSbFD5OXl/QZ7Je7o VaVNWaqE6uoMw3+DTyhnmMskPOlGPHOdv9DnCqugh5dWildr2Osz58CDYbMyzB5RruwQ IfQBW4QDySVV3gYyw6CeRMZ7UEDHg8u3eZLEfg6DLq8AJB+9qSBMHfpkSNnxOjS7pcfD V0dbUUOA7j7KOvD+WwyOL5nDhiQCs/ihY9aDy5q1A3M1XNinG175z8UiRmHlsU+ZuQxA qdVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9LNOMloodCOEa1KAojCt80Pq84g4E/58Y/d+SoUOxbI=; b=mvWp6HQhQZjtyBbZFFl52Z3AF1yyw9RPd+V+ah6//Qrl/gdJFfix1QNlMBj0LV6fY9 ETQ5LSl8qqGJIl1I1XO0zYh6JOZtLOWpnZhJObj1iTn+QT2aDSJgRmGk5ShVGpJRgAdQ yEC7+o3qGljAjI/1rDUL2bIGfBlCmVYWX/fnU1Z6/o0IUyOtRN7G0QIRjRlbeRVDn5ys pBC9u0xc/jX8YTO76AMeqtvAw1F5xifnZq+q0qxvh4eYyyGu4PZxsxlo61eGTpVtBHHa ifTmHanipDk9nhX0rPAKoxbVQ4fZ9kE33usw570AcW2vEUTmI3pOqd5YjJwQ6GHj1BYQ qhUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLbaIDBUIogiwuziEcaZ6qI6HbNMaXHjcZOffKkWLfnNJ5sN9t+qIRzbEWlL3M0rNNp8wLqv4gPgIokvg== X-Received: by 10.28.27.212 with SMTP id b203mr1987611wmb.19.1468316719838; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.216.81 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> From: krad Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:45:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenWRT To: Ben Woods Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:45:23 -0000 which virtually no embedded wireless aps use. On 12 July 2016 at 09:32, Ben Woods wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 July 2016, krad wrote: > >> One problem you will run into with freebsd as a wireless router is wifi >> support. It's generally not as good as linux, especially in ap mode which >> you will need, and last time I looked there was no hint of AC support. I >> maybe out of date on this though. If you just want wired stuff then you >> should be fine though. >> > > It's worth pointing out that Atheros has very good AP mode support - I am > running FreeBSD wifi AP as my home router without any difficulties. > > Regards, > Ben > > > -- > > -- > From: Benjamin Woods > woodsb02@gmail.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 10:21:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0C8B91A92 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85B501577 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [150.158.232.205] (vega.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::3]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3C982B7EE; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:21:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kristof Provost" To: krad Cc: "Ben Woods" , "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: OpenWRT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:21:55 +0200 Message-ID: <4841947E-5A75-40ED-B366-EA33F33623E5@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6042) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:21:59 -0000 On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:45, krad wrote: > which virtually no embedded wireless aps use. > The TP-Link WDR3600 works well with FreeBSD. Atheros chips are actually used fairly frequently. Have a look at https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 14:50:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C3AB93624 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CEDA1702 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6CEoPwd016811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:50:25 -0500 Subject: Re: OpenWRT References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <3cbd9ece-ac99-ade1-ac6f-b4868496532a@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:55:54 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:50:28 -0000 On 07/12/16 02:20, krad wrote: > One problem you will run into with freebsd as a wireless router is > wifi support. It's generally not as good as linux, especially in ap > mode which you will need, and last time I looked there was no hint of > AC support. I maybe out of date on this though. If you just want wired > stuff then you should be fine though. > > On 12 July 2016 at 04:24, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > > On 07/11/16 16:31, Ben Woods wrote: > > On Monday, 11 July 2016, William A. Mahaffey III > > wrote: > > > Is there a *BSD based analog to the OpenWRT project ? > M0n0wall is defunct, > pfsense is i386/AMD64 only, found a couple of others, but > nothing promising > .... Any clues for me ? TIA & have a good one. > Indeed all I want is wired, thanks. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 14:55:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF36EB939B9 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E2FF1DAB for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6CEtKV4019838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:55:21 -0500 Subject: Re: OpenWRT References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> <4841947E-5A75-40ED-B366-EA33F33623E5@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:00:50 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4841947E-5A75-40ED-B366-EA33F33623E5@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:55:23 -0000 On 07/12/16 05:28, Kristof Provost wrote: > > On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:45, krad wrote: > >> which virtually no embedded wireless aps use. >> > The TP-Link WDR3600 works well with FreeBSD. > > Atheros chips are actually used fairly frequently. > Have a look at https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start > > Regards, > Kristof > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > OpenWRT is linux based, I was/am looking for something *BSD based .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 17:36:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15924B84A41 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@danieldk.eu) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2DC71E46; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@danieldk.eu) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E2206F4; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:36:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=danieldk.eu; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=6HvVcSrqQcwaf7r68Yq3y8CNNkM=; b=zaGJ+0 wm+TPIMJpV5hg64Tf2jr0+D4MnnSqwlq9yXRgXM3S1L14ACFEGBemz9qVTPfz9sb ejjzx9mHWZU0eeUAPxwiLlBKz5Y22uR76PFkhOCPwc+TosZ5QEQ/Ad7yJ6988raC dey8x+C4OesNK9l5z3tWvZRqi8Y2BIiPyDXHg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=6HvVcSrqQcwaf7r 68Yq3y8CNNkM=; b=EisUFb66uWmPNxF201SLuX50gBI1K6T53KbVxqLFN4JbZ95 N84/ab3xBn0SUsgQomgNmg45DFWSv2iItM/nUgEL+LYubKvbe/hfyPUyMBakHObD y2t5yRwMTFiptqYBQJyIe2MntqaWNkSscJazkIdRwNaFZdPGsv/9D31nPEQw= X-Sasl-enc: +du1R6QwzoAO/2sikzH6dGqlO4y4zHRc0ITFKTtD/PRo 1468344994 Received: from localhost (hsi-kbw-046-005-018-048.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [46.5.18.48]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6D658CCDB8; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:36:36 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl?= de Kok To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grep and anchoring Message-ID: <20160712173623.7fu7orda2gozh2pe@Daniels-MacBook.local> References: <20232C89-B821-41EC-9188-C2A19C679BD8@danieldk.eu> <20160626163411.d05f863e.freebsd@edvax.de> <362EE01F-4B49-4ADB-A3A6-43F852FFF87F@danieldk.eu> <9fc6d5df-108b-5663-5a31-92ca915a9604@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <9fc6d5df-108b-5663-5a31-92ca915a9604@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1-neo (2016-06-11) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:36:37 -0000 On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 04:31:20PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > You are completely correct -- this is a bug in grep(1) on FreeBSD. In > all current releases including the upcoming 11.0-RELEASE grep is > actually GNU grep version 2.1.5. However, the same bug occurs in > bsdgrep(1): > > % echo 1234 1234 1234 | bsdgrep -o '^....' > 1234 > 123 > 4 12 > > There is already an open PR about a very similar issue: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=201650 FWIW, I took some time to look at the bsdgrep issue tonight and have attached a fix to the PR above. 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Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:48:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.96.130 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Hamidreza Hasheminejad Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:18:12 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: Installation problem, booting from cd hangs at Pci0: on PCI 0 To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:48:36 -0000 Hi there, I'm trying to install Freebsd 10.3 (amd64) from a CD on Thunder h2000M (S3992) (it is an old motherboard) but it hangs at this line. *kbd1 at kbdmux0* *acpi0: (110508 RSDT1625) on motherboard* *acpi0: Power Button (fixed)* *acpi0: Sleep Button (fixed)* *cpu0: (ACPI CPU) on acpi0* *cpul: (ACPI CPU) on acpi0* *cpu2: (ACPI CPU) on acpi0* *cpu3: (ACPI CPU) on acpi0* *attimer0: (AT timer) port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0* *Timecounter 'i8254' frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0* *Event timer 'i8254' frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100* *atrtc0: (AT realtime clock) port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0* *Event timer 'RTC' frequency 32768 Hz quality 0* *hpet0: (High Precision Event Timer) iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0* *hpet0: HPET never increments, disabling* *device_attach: hpet0 attach returned 6* *Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850* *acpi_timer0: <32bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0* *pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0* *pci0: on pcib0* if I boot with verbose mode, the output is like this: *pcib0: allocated type 3 (0xff6eb000-0xff6ebfff) for rid 10 of pci0:0:4:0* * map[14]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0xec00, size 6, enabled* *pcib0: allocated type 4 (0xec00-0xec3f) for rid 14 of pci0:0:4:0* * map[18]: type Memory, range 32, base 0xff6a0000, size 17, enabled* *pcib0: allocated type 3 (0xff6a0000-0xff6bffff) for rid 18 of pci0:0:4:0* *pcib0: slot 4 INTA hardwired to IRQ 16* *found-> vendor=0x1166, dev=0x0130, revid=0xa3* * domain=0, bus=0, slot=6, func=0* * class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0* * cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=0 (dwords)* * lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns)* * secbus=3, subbus=3* *found-> vendor=0x1166, dev=0x0130, revid=0xa3* * domain=0, bus=0, slot=7, func=0* * class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0* * cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=0 (dwords)* * lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns)* * secbus=4, subbus=4* I have tried different situations as described bellow but none of them doesn't help. 1. I tried to disable ACPI on the motherboard BIOS, but during the boot it shows this error. *panic: running without device atpic requires a local APIC* 2. Disabling ACPI in the boot option was also unsuccessful with the same error as mentioned above. 3. I also tried to install the OS on a new motherboard with the same hard disk. The installation was successful but when I plugged the hard disk back to the older motherboard it hangs at the same level!!! I've done so many research about this problem and especially ACPI. I found that it may be because of interrupts on the old motherboards and it needs special kernel module or need to define IRQ manually. (I don't know) It is also good to know that i386 version of Freebsd 10.3 and x86 version of Freebsd 8.3 work fine on this machine. Any kind of help is quite appreciated. -- Best Regards Hamidreza Hasheminejad From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 19:16:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62ADB92FC6 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9055A1E48 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.228.1] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:1811:2419:4e02:c5aa:73ad:902d:9374]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B30022B18D; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:16:35 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kristof Provost" To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: OpenWRT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:16:36 +0200 Message-ID: <47C39114-778E-47A5-8D93-E33605B4718C@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> <4841947E-5A75-40ED-B366-EA33F33623E5@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6042) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:16:39 -0000 On 12 Jul 2016, at 16:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 07/12/16 05:28, Kristof Provost wrote: >> >> On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:45, krad wrote: >> >>> which virtually no embedded wireless aps use. >>> >> The TP-Link WDR3600 works well with FreeBSD. >> >> Atheros chips are actually used fairly frequently. >> Have a look at https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start >> > > OpenWRT is linux based, I was/am looking for something *BSD based .... > I may not have been clear. I pointed to that list as a reference for my assertion that Atheros chips are reasonably common, not as a recommendation for openwrt. The freebsd-wifi-build scripts are useful, and the TP-Link WDR3600 is know to work with FreeBSD. I’ve got one running FreeBSD myself, and I believe other people have had similar success with other TP-Link boards. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 19:50:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD95B93979 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5311A22 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6CJoPUn024217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:50:26 -0500 Subject: Re: OpenWRT References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> <4841947E-5A75-40ED-B366-EA33F33623E5@FreeBSD.org> <47C39114-778E-47A5-8D93-E33605B4718C@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:55:55 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <47C39114-778E-47A5-8D93-E33605B4718C@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:50:29 -0000 On 07/12/16 14:22, Kristof Provost wrote: > > > On 12 Jul 2016, at 16:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> On 07/12/16 05:28, Kristof Provost wrote: >>> >>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:45, krad wrote: >>> >>>> which virtually no embedded wireless aps use. >>>> >>> The TP-Link WDR3600 works well with FreeBSD. >>> >>> Atheros chips are actually used fairly frequently. >>> Have a look at https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start >>> >> >> OpenWRT is linux based, I was/am looking for something *BSD based .... >> > I may not have been clear. I pointed to that list as a reference for my > assertion that Atheros chips are reasonably common, not as a > recommendation for openwrt. > > The freebsd-wifi-build scripts are useful, and the TP-Link WDR3600 is > know to work with FreeBSD. > I’ve got one running FreeBSD myself, and I believe other people have > had similar success with other TP-Link boards. > > Regards, > Kristof > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Good point, I have been to the OpenWRT site & noticed a whole column of supported Atheros devices, no problema there. Thanks :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 21:47:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA30B93040 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (forward2j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5A4715C3 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:1::13]) by forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AB23720BE3; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 00:47:05 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A9AAE1B61922; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 00:47:05 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id OZF9ISRaou-l3umJ7H1; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 00:47:04 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1468360024; bh=o8Z0S2rL/KSAAC6AEFdEafIRnxOeDwf4zvEslIfza/s=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=GoHFdBMbew6RzqRn4z1QToBV5d7JMMOTxgK/SstLPqoBjl6e++6BuVjjc+jn2JFcv nmUJL8B1Qav4ox8fE7tlvM8yp6tMQ1AsyOZpp60IVeYBhXaCy+li7tY+mTfuO2ileu z0twdmXHUCa0D10QnBEdWKQpRs2wdKUp83npQhRw= Authentication-Results: smtp14.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed From: Stari Karp To: Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:47:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:47:18 -0000 On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 06:45 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-07-10 11:27, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > > > > On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > > > > > configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 > > > >                glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > > > >                gmodule-export-2.0 > > > >                gnome-desktop-3.0 > > > >                folks >= 0.9.5 > > > >                folks-telepathy > > > >                folks-eds > > > >                libnotify > > > >                telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > > > >                libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > >                libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > >                libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > >                goa-1.0 > > > >                gee-0.8 > > > >                champlain-0.12 > > > >                clutter-gtk-1.0 > > > >                geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > > > >                ) were not met: > > > There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. > > The ports are updated and problem exist. > Your ports tree is not up to date. That is why configure complain. > > gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 you have a version prior to 3.16.0 > Same with the other files that have the >= sign. > _______________________________________________ I don't know what is wrong and it is Synth guilty because I have installed gtk 3.18.8_3 which was build and installed with Synth, From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 22:48:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1AAB93672 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2h.cmail.yandex.net (forward2h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90AB91B3C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (smtp1h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.144]) by forward2h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4323420C62 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:48:14 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4145B1340415 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:48:14 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id CjXvfSmLNa-mCpSxAlr; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:48:13 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1468363693; bh=jSDgvZ+V2Df4e4GnJbAPVYrmW3RNQPOirqmDwwrZQZw=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date; b=fcx2jLwEBLSp4Jy1XxdS7AWw+XlfbaVbqoj7yDu3pINTgYp8WHw3FLxnyu0lXTlNr NFP2I7XOCdKnRLHUJuqvo+S9l1qmMIB6IgOchaoY8MpVhbT3FN3q5vKYZCFQVVka9j t/pg8j+G1NLSc7u1RrvnwFr4cH7AdX+GDT/MURS4= Authentication-Results: smtp1h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Message-ID: <1468363690.1420.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: pkg 1.8.7 segmentation fault From: Stari Karp To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:48:10 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:48:26 -0000 Hi! I have a problem with pkg 1.8.7 on  10.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 10.3- RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat May 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016     root@amd64-builder.daem onology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 I use Synth and today I try pkg upgrade -f and I got: pkg upgrade -f Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating Synth repository catalogue... Synth repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   2% pkg: xplanet-1.3.0_9: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: xplanet-1.3.0_9: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   5% pkg: xcursorgen-1.0.6_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: xcursorgen-1.0.6_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   7% pkg: webp-0.5.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: webp-0.5.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   7% pkg: webkit2-gtk3-2.8.5_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: webkit2-gtk3-2.8.5_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   8% pkg: vlc-qt4-2.2.4,4: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: vlc-qt4-2.2.4,4: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   8% pkg: vigra-1.11.0_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: vigra-1.11.0_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):   9% pkg: tracker-1.6.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: tracker-1.6.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  10% pkg: texlive-base-20150521_10: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: texlive-base-20150521_10: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  10% pkg: tex-web2c-20150521_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: tex-web2c-20150521_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  10% pkg: tex-basic-engines-20150521: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: tex-basic-engines-20150521: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  14% pkg: sdl_image-1.2.12_9: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: sdl_image-1.2.12_9: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  16% pkg: qt5-webkit-5.5.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: qt5-webkit-5.5.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  17% pkg: qt5-gui-5.5.1_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: qt5-gui-5.5.1_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  19% pkg: qt4-imageformats-4.8.7: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: qt4-imageformats-4.8.7: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  19% pkg: qt4-gui-4.8.7_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: qt4-gui-4.8.7_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  26% pkg: py27-gimp-2.8.16: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: py27-gimp-2.8.16: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  28% pkg: poppler-utils-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: poppler-utils-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  28% pkg: poppler-qt4-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: poppler-qt4-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  29% pkg: poppler-glib-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: poppler-glib-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  29% pkg: poppler-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: poppler-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  34% pkg: openjpeg15-1.5.2_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: openjpeg15-1.5.2_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  34% pkg: openjpeg-2.1.1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: openjpeg-2.1.1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  35% pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  36% pkg: netpbm-10.35.98: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: netpbm-10.35.98: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  37% pkg: mjpegtools-2.1.0_7: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: mjpegtools-2.1.0_7: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  41% pkg: libzvbi-0.2.35_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libzvbi-0.2.35_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  42% pkg: libxul-45.2.0_2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libxul-45.2.0_2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  43% pkg: libwmf-0.2.8.4_15: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libwmf-0.2.8.4_15: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  43% pkg: libvncserver-0.9.10_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libvncserver-0.9.10_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  45% pkg: libslang2-2.3.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libslang2-2.3.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  45% pkg: librsvg2-2.40.13: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: librsvg2-2.40.13: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  45% pkg: libreoffice-5.0.6_2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libreoffice-5.0.6_2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  46% pkg: libqrencode-3.4.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libqrencode-3.4.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  49% pkg: libkate-0.4.1_6: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libkate-0.4.1_6: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  51% pkg: libgd-2.1.1,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libgd-2.1.1,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  57% pkg: lensfun-0.3.2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: lensfun-0.3.2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  58% pkg: jbig2dec-0.13: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: jbig2dec-0.13: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  60% pkg: imlib2-1.4.9,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: imlib2-1.4.9,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  64% pkg: gstreamer1-plugins-png-1.8.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gstreamer1-plugins-png-1.8.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  71% pkg: gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.31_2,3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.31_2,3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  72% pkg: gstreamer-plugins-gl-0.10.3_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gstreamer-plugins-gl-0.10.3_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  74% pkg: graphviz-2.38.0_12: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: graphviz-2.38.0_12: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  82% pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  82% pkg: ghostscript9-agpl-base-9.16_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: ghostscript9-agpl-base-9.16_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  82% pkg: gegl3-0.3.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gegl3-0.3.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  83% pkg: gegl-0.2.0_14: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gegl-0.2.0_14: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  83% pkg: geeqie-1.3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: geeqie-1.3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  83% pkg: gdk-pixbuf2-2.32.3_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gdk-pixbuf2-2.32.3_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  84% pkg: freetype2-2.6.3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: freetype2-2.6.3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  88% pkg: firefox-47.0.1_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: firefox-47.0.1_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  92% pkg: cups-filters-1.9.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: cups-filters-1.9.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  95% pkg: cairo-1.14.6,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: cairo-1.14.6,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  96% pkg: blender-2.76b_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: blender-2.76b_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  99% pkg: ImageMagick-6.9.4.3,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: ImageMagick-6.9.4.3,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates):  99% pkg: GraphicsMagick-1.3.24,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: GraphicsMagick-1.3.24,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Checking for upgrades (1422 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   0% pkg: gdk-pixbuf2-2.32.3_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: freetype2-2.6.3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: cairo-1.14.6,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: cairo-1.14.6,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   0% pkg: libgd-2.1.1,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: graphviz-2.38.0_12: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: graphviz-2.38.0_12: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: graphviz-2.38.0_12: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: webp-0.5.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libwmf-0.2.8.4_15: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: librsvg2-2.40.13: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: openjpeg-2.1.1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: ImageMagick-6.9.4.3,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: ImageMagick-6.9.4.3,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   0% pkg: webkit2-gtk3-2.8.5_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: webkit2-gtk3-2.8.5_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   1% pkg: gdk-pixbuf2-2.32.3_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   2% pkg: netpbm-10.35.98: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   7% pkg: libwmf-0.2.8.4_15: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   7% pkg: libkate-0.4.1_6: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libkate-0.4.1_6: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   8% pkg: qt4-gui-4.8.7_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: imlib2-1.4.9,2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: webp-0.5.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: openjpeg15-1.5.2_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: libzvbi-0.2.35_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: sdl_image-1.2.12_9: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   9% pkg: poppler-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: poppler-glib-0.40.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):   9% pkg: tracker-1.6.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  10% pkg: jbig2dec-0.13: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: ghostscript9-agpl-base-9.16_5: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  16% pkg: qt5-gui-5.5.1_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  18% pkg: qt5-webkit-5.5.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: qt5-webkit-5.5.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  26% pkg: gegl-0.2.0_14: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gimp-app-2.8.16_2,1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  28% pkg: libqrencode-3.4.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  30% pkg: vlc-qt4-2.2.4,4: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: vlc-qt4-2.2.4,4: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  34% pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  38% pkg: libslang2-2.3.0: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  65% pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: opencv-2.4.9_8: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  65% pkg: mjpegtools-2.1.0_7: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: mjpegtools-2.1.0_7: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  77% pkg: gegl3-0.3.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: tracker-1.6.1_3: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring pkg: gegl3-0.3.4_1: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates):  81% pkg: lensfun-0.3.2: duplicate dependency listing: png, ignoring Processing candidates (1422 candidates): 100% Child process pid=1461 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 23:05:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2E9B93C57 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from diego.otheguy@sonda.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5350115FF for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from diego.otheguy@sonda.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 529A1B93C56; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52390B93C52 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from diego.otheguy@sonda.com) Received: from NAM03-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-co1nam03on0132.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.40.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0038315FE for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from diego.otheguy@sonda.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sonda.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=vANm3p2DKDhO3YV0M0SaoCV+grkRscKwHrZkK2M1wI4=; b=ovx07czlKXX/8hqSBC3UKHOiKnVMIlMrITYQy5AZWFFpPAFc4XRUKVTlLbhobC6j6syNchPxjlii2D05IRxFAAiFhedNMZouaTmfrfl+vD902rQdzdwkdwyyj621CAXMgBW6kdMyowy84Sh7DBeDeRwiHoVl1RDqd7vEYycDpbE= Received: from BLUPR0401MB1778.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.162.215.140) by BLUPR0401MB1780.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.162.215.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.539.14; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:30:47 +0000 Received: from BLUPR0401MB1778.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.215.140]) by BLUPR0401MB1778.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.215.140]) with mapi id 15.01.0517.017; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:30:47 +0000 From: "Otheguy, Diego" To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: DL380 gen9 Thread-Topic: DL380 gen9 Thread-Index: AdHcePvDnZs3Zkb5RCiRynOMZcwpXw== Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:30:46 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: es-AR, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=diego.otheguy@sonda.com; x-originating-ip: [186.158.253.2] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 0509e970-c561-45c4-fd2f-08d3aa9367f8 x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR0401MB1780; 20:5eRsDloBe1OLNyPIvHWg2mFckbOzABvrBvi2BPXYSRjd1zrvVB+iybuH9qqVrTxj+fNv9KcKUA+4aWPEMCSsjrqABA90OU3X2HUWf3LOWL/ZmBVdtGL0pfi0r8RKVWqrOocXxHyYNDjTdPg+WrZsGgMoDPpbIasTHP2LOP54h0Y= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR0401MB1780; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(158342451672863)(21748063052155); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046)(6055026); SRVR:BLUPR0401MB1780; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR0401MB1780; x-forefront-prvs: 0001227049 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(7916002)(199003)(189002)(19625215002)(3846002)(101416001)(99286002)(2900100001)(19580395003)(586003)(15975445007)(102836003)(5002640100001)(6116002)(9686002)(76576001)(2501003)(5630700001)(5640700001)(92566002)(54356999)(3280700002)(2351001)(106356001)(122556002)(19300405004)(2906002)(229853001)(77096005)(558084003)(3660700001)(16236675004)(66066001)(33656002)(10400500002)(8936002)(87936001)(86362001)(105586002)(8676002)(1730700003)(18717965001)(11100500001)(74316002)(50986999)(68736007)(5003600100003)(81166006)(97736004)(189998001)(110136002)(81156014)(107886002)(7736002)(7696003)(450100001)(790700001)(7846002)(19627235001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR0401MB1780; H:BLUPR0401MB1778.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: sonda.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sonda.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Jul 2016 20:30:46.7934 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: f149d0bc-0eb5-4f9a-9e82-24a76eacf8de X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR0401MB1780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:05:38 -0000 Hi Is HP proliant DL380 gen9 supported ? All specification are for previus ver= sions of this server model. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 03:40:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F72B97EB4 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 03:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ECF5185D for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 03:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6D3e4r0090290; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 05:40:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed To: Stari Karp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <0ae6cb58-4815-6608-aecd-ab2f6aea5c5d@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 05:40:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 03:40:11 -0000 On 2016-07-12 23:47, Stari Karp wrote: > On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 06:45 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2016-07-10 11:27, Stari Karp wrote: >>> On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: >>>>> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 >>>>> glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 >>>>> gmodule-export-2.0 >>>>> gnome-desktop-3.0 >>>>> folks >= 0.9.5 >>>>> folks-telepathy >>>>> folks-eds >>>>> libnotify >>>>> telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 >>>>> libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>>>> libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>>>> libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >>>>> goa-1.0 >>>>> gee-0.8 >>>>> champlain-0.12 >>>>> clutter-gtk-1.0 >>>>> geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 >>>>> ) were not met: >>>> There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. >>> The ports are updated and problem exist. >> Your ports tree is not up to date. That is why configure complain. >> >> gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 you have a version prior to 3.16.0 >> Same with the other files that have the >= sign. >> _______________________________________________ > I don't know what is wrong and it is Synth guilty because I have > installed gtk 3.18.8_3 which was build and installed with Synth, > You need to find these in the ports tree and upgrade them glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 folks >= 0.9.5 telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 07:42:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220EFB97659 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB2621E5A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.15.239.103] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bNEo6-0000S8-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:42:10 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u6D7g622002954 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:42:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u6D7g59I002953 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:42:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:42:05 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mounting OpenBSD partition Message-ID: <20160713074205.GA2894@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.15.239.103 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:42:20 -0000 Hello, I was in need to investigate some hardware / driver issue and made an OpenBSD bootable USB key. The creation and installation of this is pretty much simple and fast. Based on an image install59.ff (some 290 MByte) after a few minutes you have a running system on the disk or in my case on some other USB key of 15 GByte which even contains already X11 (just login and says 'startx'). Just do installation to sd1 (sd0 is the harddisk in your laptop). Nice. What is interesting for me as FreeBSD user is, that you can mount parts of the OpenBSD file system to our FreeBSD; the layout is: # fdisk da0 ******* Working on device /dev/da0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1915 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1915 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 166 (0xa6),(OpenBSD) start 64, size 30764411 (15021 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 2; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 and we have the following devices in FreeBSD after plug-in: # ls -l /dev/da* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x74 jul. 13 07:44 /dev/da0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x75 jul. 13 07:44 /dev/da0s4 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x77 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x78 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4b crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x79 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4d crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7a jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4e crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7b jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4f crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7c jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4g crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7d jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4h crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7e jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4i crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7f jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4j crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x80 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4k The device /dev/da0s4 is normal UFS mountable and seems to contain the root file system. I found no way to get further access, for example to /home, ... HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wer übersieht, dass wir uns den anderen weggenommen haben und sie uns wiederhaben wollen, kann von den Kämpfen der letzten Tage keinen verstehen. Und kann natürlich auch keinen dieser Kämpfe bestehen." Hermann Kant in jW 1.10.1989 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 08:37:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9BFB9381F for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B53A120A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id f126so18479789wma.1 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1j2IisKfMzhsckr5t0+t716MwNGTUwrBKBeMMFuU/jQ=; b=TPOGPjz4vpuDfl+KRXqMh6gdhPHstH7wClyk3W5EuTo3kAr0smowdeCchK24UX5GSX DSe2ojT3pIO7h3F8aNUt2kpqFo2aOaWVBILgoPXwUyqxdRwzkuy4xr4lp6ej0d5orDXq 7VI10JHb64jd8PSsG2vtHAN0EtQwwaZSl8IjGiVT7C12bawGWeNPrrNdCWA4vOPFqF/X xOnckTcaey2soLpSX8THGrQtB9o+P/X0O2MMl1DY3mW11kiffeKWxzZUOLIG3Nn3TdbG E62Prm/wBu0ZYKhEbBAnbu51FvyEAN6/y3HR/TCCGVW732Nv5H8bKXCIb/EH3+FJMsid 5sNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1j2IisKfMzhsckr5t0+t716MwNGTUwrBKBeMMFuU/jQ=; b=DtCiGE9axU8Lqf4qQoxkFU09fQHrVx9spPPiw4/ABvCzpslQ9Lrnj8edJzOsRbaXCP zovnC0uW7BjgRCAVsPGrxFrLIu3t2yhmAel4sGBd+5qcN9MJH4jrbDv4uRu0wHqY9P6Z vEgSsFlKFkoemfdAdl2Gr19YOYIu6lxyYxbkIdCAjkgKGCVNUc0y+z92/0EKXppyoGOy 1hDG96iTYMyia4GRTea5iE5pUqrgiW5IfKjTZKl34/Ul0ZKZNO984k3CVoL9s5CyYkYo i3tqe8KQAKkFa9f3M6xU383xLwnTC4t4BO6xYuZe5Mf4ZKyNV11sVc9V/IqyLwIthkGa f+hA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJsFyGv11f6HPC3uSAp26EPVGnRHcbDyd31OyR51fXeTotmGhC3s1R/dMy8cLZtZSctYojguCF8yzZUmA== X-Received: by 10.28.218.71 with SMTP id r68mr27570706wmg.48.1468399050659; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:37:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.216.81 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:37:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4820653d-f4ed-bc88-0c0f-e11168cb5b92@hiwaay.net> <0645d851-eb28-0008-0fe3-f78d21355159@hiwaay.net> <4841947E-5A75-40ED-B366-EA33F33623E5@FreeBSD.org> <47C39114-778E-47A5-8D93-E33605B4718C@FreeBSD.org> From: krad Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:37:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenWRT To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:32 -0000 you might want to look at netbsd, as that has been ported to more architectures than freebsd, so might be a better choice depending on your requirements and hardware. On 12 July 2016 at 20:48, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 07/12/16 14:22, Kristof Provost wrote: > >> >> >> On 12 Jul 2016, at 16:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> On 07/12/16 05:28, Kristof Provost wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:45, krad wrote: >>>> >>>> which virtually no embedded wireless aps use. >>>>> >>>>> The TP-Link WDR3600 works well with FreeBSD. >>>> >>>> Atheros chips are actually used fairly frequently. >>>> Have a look at https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start >>>> >>>> >>> OpenWRT is linux based, I was/am looking for something *BSD based .... >>> >>> I may not have been clear. I pointed to that list as a reference for my >> assertion that Atheros chips are reasonably common, not as a >> recommendation for openwrt. >> >> The freebsd-wifi-build scripts are useful, and the TP-Link WDR3600 is >> know to work with FreeBSD. >> I=E2=80=99ve got one running FreeBSD myself, and I believe other people = have had >> similar success with other TP-Link boards. >> >> Regards, >> Kristof >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Good point, I have been to the OpenWRT site & noticed a whole column of > supported Atheros devices, no problema there. Thanks :-). > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 09:25:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F2FB935F9 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D8171E99 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE94F3D190; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:25:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6D9PEtZ002081; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:25:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:25:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting OpenBSD partition Message-Id: <20160713112514.559ad201.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160713074205.GA2894@c720-r292778-amd64> References: <20160713074205.GA2894@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:25:24 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:42:05 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > What is interesting for me as FreeBSD user is, that you can mount parts > of the OpenBSD file system to our FreeBSD; the layout is: > > # fdisk da0 > > ******* Working on device /dev/da0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=1915 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=1915 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > sysid 166 (0xa6),(OpenBSD) > start 64, size 30764411 (15021 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 2; > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > > and we have the following devices in FreeBSD after plug-in: > > # ls -l /dev/da* > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x74 jul. 13 07:44 /dev/da0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x75 jul. 13 07:44 /dev/da0s4 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x77 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x78 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4b > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x79 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4d > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7a jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4e > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7b jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4f > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7c jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4g > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7d jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4h > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7e jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4i > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x7f jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4j > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x80 jul. 13 09:38 /dev/da0s4k > > The device /dev/da0s4 is normal UFS mountable and seems to contain the > root file system. I found no way to get further access, for example to > /home, ... OpenBSD uses a partitioner similar to FreeBSD's bsdlabel (disklabel). The device /dev/da0s4 (4th slice) equals /dev/da0s4c and mounts the whole slice. This is strange, as the mountable partitions should be /dev/da0s4[adefghijk]; /dev/da0s4a being the root partition, and /dev/da0s4b is the swap partition. But I'm not fully sure the different partitioning is 100% compatible... Can you check the output of "mount -v" on OpenBSD, as well as "disklabel da0s4" on FreeBSD? Additionally, what does "file -s " say for those files? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 15:29:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C1FB97BE1 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7DAF1440 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6DFSxJa008310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:29:00 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: versions question Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:34:28 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:29:09 -0000 Is there likely to be a 9.4R or 9.5R version of FreeBSD released :-) ? How about 10.4R or 10.5R ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 15:32:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED421B97DE8 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA8F17D4 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EFE2A33C22; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: versions question References: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:32:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (William A. Mahaffey, III's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:34:28 -0453.75") Message-ID: <44inw95za5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:32:59 -0000 "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > Is there likely to be a 9.4R or 9.5R version of FreeBSD released :-) ? > How about 10.4R or 10.5R ? TIA & have a good one. https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 15:44:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2942B981C9 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 539A31EB1 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6DFi6lv016713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:44:06 -0500 Subject: Re: versions question References: <44inw95za5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <6a808245-0392-61a6-5513-25395cd90995@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:49:35 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44inw95za5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:44:09 -0000 On 07/13/16 10:39, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > >> Is there likely to be a 9.4R or 9.5R version of FreeBSD released :-) ? >> How about 10.4R or 10.5R ? TIA & have a good one. > https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks, I knew about that page, I was trying to pry out any inside-baseball/secret-skinny on whether or not there might be undisclosed plans for later releases :-). Thanks. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:00:22 -0000 Was this problem ever solved? On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 8:12:41 PM UTC-4, John Aten wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Another virtualization problem: I tried installing FreeBSD 10.2 STABLE for > Amd64 into a Virtual Box (version 4.3.30 on Mac OSX 10.6.8), and ran into > trouble. I have had the same problem with both dvd and cd images. The > checksums matched, but neither image can boot the installer, giving this > message: > > /boot/kernel/kernel text=0xfc7f48 > readin failed > > elf64_loadimage: read failed > can't load file '/boot/kernel/kernel': input/output error > Error while including /boot/menu.rc, in the line: > menu-display > / > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... > /boot/kernel/kernel text=0xfc7f48 > readin failed > > elf64_loadimage: read failed > can't load 'kernel' > > This is the message given by the CD image; I am pretty sure the DVD gave > the same errors, but I have since deleted the dvd image. I have looked > around online, and haven't been able to find anything on this. I have tried > different settings for the VM, and get the same thing. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 17:04:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E1B97FDF for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DDED14DC for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 382BB5BA6 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/382BB5BA6; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:04:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8kHc26QnSJGeroGEs4fnpSIFHAiu8IDP8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:04:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8kHc26QnSJGeroGEs4fnpSIFHAiu8IDP8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BMB6CsuaS5PMiBssCHqK2tGTsWRelapkg" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ? References: In-Reply-To: --BMB6CsuaS5PMiBssCHqK2tGTsWRelapkg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/07/13 17:34, Manish Jain wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I yesterday made a very small donation of USD 10 to FreeBSD via my=20 > credit card. The amount is trifling, by all standards, but it made me=20 > happy. But I was mighty unhappy that FreeBSD donations at freebsd.org=20 > are now crafted by PayPal. In my opinion, PayPal is a bunch of thugs wh= o=20 > charge 2x for everything they do. >=20 > For making my donation, PayPal first set up a 'handshake' transaction o= f=20 > USD 1. I had no option but to accept that transaction too. So I ended u= p=20 > donating USD 10 to FreeBSD, and USD 1 to PayPal. As much as I want to=20 > donate to FreeBSD, I also want that none of my money ends up as booty=20 > with PayPal, a company I absolutely hate for its business model,=20 > practice and internal work ethos (I have worked at PayPal for 6 months = > to know how bad things are at PayPal). >=20 > The way the system works, I can't reclaim my USD 1 that now enriches=20 > PayPal accounts. You will have donated via the FreeBSD Foundation as the legal entity behind the project (ie. something that can run bank accounts and disperse monies.) It's actually a Foundation webpage that you get to by clicking on the 'Donate' button on www.freebsd.org. Now, that donations page gives you 4 different ways to donate money to the project, of which PayPal is only one alternative. 'Click & Pledge' looks to me like pretty much like what you would have wanted instead of PayPal. However, if you're unsure, why not ask the FF people? There's a form here: https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/contact-us/ or there's phone numbers and e-mail addresses on that page. Quite apart from anything else, they will be very glad to get feedback on the methods they provide for handling donations. Cheers, Matthew --BMB6CsuaS5PMiBssCHqK2tGTsWRelapkg-- --8kHc26QnSJGeroGEs4fnpSIFHAiu8IDP8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJXhnSoXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnidgQAI5zRGRuUDd/WURjSsDWP4gX RCaQH5ii4a7BJLEPliBiikmqIPtWLbCYrxlBLdw1f5zc1p2rci7VKcLH9d7Dm2lm qa3OPD38ny8TvkB5ja9fkTSYPMnhHZsD2J0p5HJ5NtwgXOWehXdt2mNUkfTOxDWn 5dq+zKxxd76v/7tu8BQoBB0LIPVCwLMRA4kt/jwQSAM84Jm8Z3dQLQcqpfkPZXni 1wyT1/SRo7e+MIry6P5gy/O2UUt/RbbZD53ewAyoscJXVMO688Lzhxh26ce8+G/A 7zzdr06JILH/CWKGUX2JdmumVZfeOHhX4s6ENIhhAXdoRPCKryZ3kGh4A/iCO6mI 6LUdBFyeV52zD/hKUCrvrwLuTbQt0lIjFv03So4UuLLIcELcm1nTW7hO5byhJB0A XNHEESdBin6jZ1SLvZ0m0fgwx+hlY+w0tmrquKvtXnJfhzjsyknV2ld1AUYlKxvI ghKYKcUINMItwCEcM600dovbsVcS4Uxw8i2KZ9JZYaAmDzkyfIuf70VF8SnYGI2D 6e928XqTPJhR18DA90UI/qxIo9ocLRtxtgbiRgFSn8TsJ4tOP0WdZKRUqI0aoGZw CyRhysY0/tOaHST6Uy2vR/pXk9vu7LKUds/UB4sY/pQEBCrH9lkTLcDiKHjE7I2W ejivlkxaYVe2K1zxasiX =ywle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8kHc26QnSJGeroGEs4fnpSIFHAiu8IDP8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 18:00:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9D0B97512 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [199.102.78.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD1A1E3D for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mobile-166-171-122-132.mycingular.net ([166.171.122.132] helo=[10.157.242.24]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1bNNpr-0000kd-Q0; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:20:35 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ? From: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:20:33 -0600 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9002DCF1-B501-4A1C-AE59-67CF03649A23@shire.net> References: To: Manish Jain X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.171.122.132 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:00:45 -0000 No. You get the $1 back. They don't complete or confirm or close it. It is= just an authorization. They do it to make sure the card data is valid, for= better or worse. =20 I don't like PP either, I agree with you there. But the $1 authorization wi= ll fall off your card eventually when the authorization expires. =20 Chad Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Manish Jain wr= ote: >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I yesterday made a very small donation of USD 10 to FreeBSD via my=20 > credit card. The amount is trifling, by all standards, but it made me=20 > happy. But I was mighty unhappy that FreeBSD donations at freebsd.org=20 > are now crafted by PayPal. In my opinion, PayPal is a bunch of thugs who=20= > charge 2x for everything they do. >=20 > For making my donation, PayPal first set up a 'handshake' transaction of=20= > USD 1. I had no option but to accept that transaction too. So I ended up=20= > donating USD 10 to FreeBSD, and USD 1 to PayPal. As much as I want to=20 > donate to FreeBSD, I also want that none of my money ends up as booty=20 > with PayPal, a company I absolutely hate for its business model,=20 > practice and internal work ethos (I have worked at PayPal for 6 months=20 > to know how bad things are at PayPal). >=20 > The way the system works, I can't reclaim my USD 1 that now enriches=20 > PayPal accounts. >=20 > --=20 > Regards > Manish Jain >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 18:21:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48966B983C1 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x236.google.com (mail-vk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 019BC1680 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id x130so77523034vkc.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=eoezSf/ZQpYN+pTuNm1lveAFIzUNakTFCByXgoXQ6zw=; b=0UwyCIeeIsTsdhCklZL7QJNQpkkhNmEHyLBt0BBfZQAAipBGoN8lSM14KecSqm1c6o JOoySi43TbmUJWwSBil+6/3mzwBz275irpvov6Wp5LTt0GOKpg+3qsDwfajQT+p6HIjS BxAxXpynpww3pSuOsumd4ioC3ewng/md+7E+KSri4yUlp2OiVGNPG9u7TcTHW8De+OtO PlorScI2eBNpV3/u73MB2aJZN0XuU9vOGabb/NB9OKYxHuk4wwiP9tOvUjBrwhA9hjaw x+FihQpuShlF5LTLeSxbX5NCHZCU0NWKAsNR1H13s3VkSfm5t/LmWD0J0OXYrBWMsqng qsmg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=eoezSf/ZQpYN+pTuNm1lveAFIzUNakTFCByXgoXQ6zw=; b=SIxXOzk4Ug5dmdzjROBHTnZhKhTcuqt2ajpGIlMQiATnZy/tn/tYr8NkruPk0M4hFb GIuQF44cqJYZ3HInC/bHBnbhdINneTla49kV9oJBHbZPpZhahJ+3RJZWyv9KMEe+zZDM 4e6tkIka2N2lzCxXTFq0PEjiM52Vmn+k2pOzsw9mVa43ycv9SUy4gzSu5OEyA5cJvktu LlUpUpxiBsB8qIDQIoS50B1IQ5yylho3/0NlOSc4SOcuNhXpkRgW5rmS2Ic6fLWDwwBr lkICo3dvoxDSWWY1NQ+MMylstiiW9qydZwTF2BeEYxvvSFH9V4P8dFeXCYQd95GfWjL5 V+ZA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKN222va3lTWUE6xjFH75lOSLLjmquMc8ri5prSVt0uxUI2jdSPZMHBhDOwKF5SRttWt/dCq5NwszM9hg== X-Received: by 10.31.204.65 with SMTP id c62mr4039205vkg.91.1468434085864; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:21:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.68.1 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:21:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Aleksandr Miroslav Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:21:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recording Internet radio? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:21:27 -0000 On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > Is there something I can install from ports on a server to record > Internet > > radio? > > If you can stream it (without the need of using a web browser), > maybe mplayer/mencoder or rtmpdump could be used. > Awesome, thanks for the tip. mplayer and a bit of scripting did the trick. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 18:24:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7899B98630 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x229.google.com (mail-vk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FE44196B for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id x130so77622512vkc.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:24:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dB0zRW3rJ0u9Io3f7eM1Pg3ZEXnGOekOBDC25bOHpyY=; b=Zi7JnzZYOp/qGdhrPYOXkEvybCeDi1q2wqBfiVvgzoQkiztrYXJkHnEsPfRh8IhV+1 AX1D6+ZZi2myy0y6V8bq2sHOs9jx6rVwXez9EkavkMQ9l9anxdVbhg2bt0cFeBV9xkar HF+rx+pes6oW5fka0PwtJzR4M4V7IYKl9kcp/sx66b5c+m650Q3NVt5pNtqUZ8W8Ngkl tVx8wLp9IP5zvFXNgiw15kxTG4RVXWTKYNzONPzjI+61dJUX+fAd3HnqXTdTXa0uEtIQ mEiBexs/7t/Fk7p4U7IJyVtcVFg0ja97nRUUox5SHqS0Cg8dGHMwLdIQVA80FIyHsaYx d35A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=dB0zRW3rJ0u9Io3f7eM1Pg3ZEXnGOekOBDC25bOHpyY=; b=BsSCnx4h1L5Po5p7u1/GNl2WaHxJ7lIylXv19eyCn7PAmAoBCespOR/Xk7vPwJoB9d 2pguVS5LRZYF5XWnA4RSxzanCMu7X1jLXwD1Qyok1xheBTpiZu0fcdbBG0j7ev+qLQgg O+ZhJED/MmJFcGi45J65mnQ2qT5CE6E8+e7lCdM2uLqbPwLcYtdUto6x+28EUGjqIiYD R6XuVb2GtpiaspldXvUECgYyQ/bKhmLDEebYUpPXrLheEbx94q/sX6bA9dSw47GEJE1Z HTUoJFtwR3gX3ikMFGtvbjpI+NVWdm85qq57G3SI2NZWvgQ41O78BIMIBPDJ54OrTAiQ O4BA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKTLTcLVmMyfzSuZnBIjNRcmBCT0bLoH/Sb272KAgjfvpjfx8TB4p8QaC6Qu3bezCZKCrKdZQxdVo6cWw== X-Received: by 10.159.34.55 with SMTP id 52mr4548818uad.2.1468434242327; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.68.1 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:24:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Aleksandr Miroslav Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:24:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recording Internet radio? To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:24:03 -0000 On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:39 PM, (=E2=80=A2=E2=80=BF=E2=80=A2) Dh=C3=A9nin= Jean-Jacques < dhenin@gmail.com> wrote: > [...] > echo "killall mplayer" | at +$DUREE minutes > [...] > /usr/local/bin/mplayer -noconsolecontrols -really-quiet -slave -ao > pcm:file=3D"`date "+%j-%Hh%M"`.wav" \ > http://audio.scdn.arkena.com/11010/franceculture-midfi128.mp3 > > Thanks for sending this script. I ended up writing mine before you sent this message. Instead of using at(1), I just sleep for [length of show] and kill mplayer. Also, I didn't know about the -really-quiet and -slace switches. Good to know. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 19:31:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0482BB98837 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FA717DD for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id DAEFECB8CB1; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37574.128.135.52.6.1468436482.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <9002DCF1-B501-4A1C-AE59-67CF03649A23@shire.net> References: <9002DCF1-B501-4A1C-AE59-67CF03649A23@shire.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" Cc: "Manish Jain" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:31:58 -0000 On Wed, July 13, 2016 12:20 pm, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > No. You get the $1 back. They don't complete or confirm or close it. It > is just an authorization. They do it to make sure the card data is valid, > for better or worse. > > I don't like PP either, I agree with you there. But the $1 authorization > will fall off your card eventually when the authorization expires. It it were credit card, it would be listed as "pending" transaction, and will eventually disappear as Chad says. Pretty much the same gasoline dispensers do in US: before starting pump for you they do this $1 (unfinished) transaction from your credit card, and if you don't pour gas, you will see this pending $1 transaction for some time, then it disappears never actually hitting your account. Valeri > > Chad > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 13, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Manish Jain >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I yesterday made a very small donation of USD 10 to FreeBSD via my >> credit card. The amount is trifling, by all standards, but it made me >> happy. But I was mighty unhappy that FreeBSD donations at freebsd.org >> are now crafted by PayPal. In my opinion, PayPal is a bunch of thugs who >> charge 2x for everything they do. >> >> For making my donation, PayPal first set up a 'handshake' transaction of >> USD 1. I had no option but to accept that transaction too. So I ended up >> donating USD 10 to FreeBSD, and USD 1 to PayPal. As much as I want to >> donate to FreeBSD, I also want that none of my money ends up as booty >> with PayPal, a company I absolutely hate for its business model, >> practice and internal work ethos (I have worked at PayPal for 6 months >> to know how bad things are at PayPal). >> >> The way the system works, I can't reclaim my USD 1 that now enriches >> PayPal accounts. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Manish Jain >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 19:56:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0267FB98F19 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8E151719 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6DJus73024657 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:56:54 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:02:23 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:56:57 -0000 I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. I use TOR when surfing & followed the advice of a thread a few weeks ago about a FF setting to prevent those suggestions. I also have cron delete cookies & other cruft from the .mozilla directory nightly. How do they still have me ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 21:06:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDF0B9763B for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC0501896 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [138.185.78.75] (account jon@radel.com HELO [192.168.1.117]) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.10 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1113761; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:06:45 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-81440811-1DCB-4115-BEBB-88B2BDF2523C; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question From: Jon Radel X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:06:38 -0600 Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:06:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-81440811-1DCB-4115-BEBB-88B2BDF2523C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Jul 13, 2016, at 1:55 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrot= e: >=20 >=20 > I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of Firefox (= on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests completions for m= e, implying that Google has my identity pegged.=20 Or that your searches are pedestrian little things that many have searched f= or in the past. In other words, do you have any evidence that what you're ge= tting is customized to you or is it simply giving you today's top searches t= hat start out the way yours does? I've never noticed any correlation with w= hat I've done in the past, not that that proves anything.=20 --Jon Radel --Apple-Mail-81440811-1DCB-4115-BEBB-88B2BDF2523C Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIF/DCCBfgw ggTgoAMCAQICEHNU5Tx9a7TNDWBpDfzOARswDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdC MRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoT EUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVu dGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQTAeFw0xNTAzMzAwMDAwMDBaFw0xODAzMjkyMzU5 NTlaMIH6MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEOMAwGA1UEERMFMjIxNTAxCzAJBgNVBAgTAlZBMRQwEgYDVQQH EwtTcHJpbmdmaWVsZDEaMBgGA1UECRMRNjkxNyBSaWRnZXdheSBEci4xFTATBgNVBAoTDEpvbiBU LiBSYWRlbDEyMDAGA1UECxMpSXNzdWVkIHRocm91Z2ggSm9uIFQuIFJhZGVsIEUtUEtJIE1hbmFn ZXIxHzAdBgNVBAsTFkNvcnBvcmF0ZSBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwxEjAQBgNVBAMTCUpvbiBSYWRlbDEc MBoGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYNam9uQHJhZGVsLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoC ggEBAN7VG2H2FtCpo4Of74Ll1UBAf2czZUfeg9rNm587CYgbZJcj+/c+56ZxBDcmSGalDTqBizPJ duRMIuyq8R9qViPzWN238rmVPhpV2PQt8khbJNxT3lXauwK4exK+f8+chywS1eDnesK2pLgQ60n2 7etjaE/xgKLLPXJjeaficomz3cwcbgCRdi5WnN9ogAMRNxWsD6trO9cR+cMldcNln1m65XXTrIii 86+FhZKVpW7yetIcmNcVkjYhfCAh5UGgyKHfK7osuPXgj9h1nSsgDwr5Q0H41bpGLe7AdcFuviOH dmqSuohVSt/VV7JuF2slx2pd0w0eMoNKUKhrFhFsvLUCAwEAAaOCAdUwggHRMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaA FJJha4LhoqCqT+xn8cKj97SAAMHsMB0GA1UdDgQWBBTP1gHXRYR8E0eyRHCj/S+HyppC7DAOBgNV HQ8BAf8EBAMCBaAwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADAdBgNVHSUEFjAUBggrBgEFBQcDBAYIKwYBBQUHAwIw RgYDVR0gBD8wPTA7BgwrBgEEAbIxAQIBAwUwKzApBggrBgEFBQcCARYdaHR0cHM6Ly9zZWN1cmUu Y29tb2RvLm5ldC9DUFMwXQYDVR0fBFYwVDBSoFCgToZMaHR0cDovL2NybC5jb21vZG9jYS5jb20v Q09NT0RPU0hBMjU2Q2xpZW50QXV0aGVudGljYXRpb25hbmRTZWN1cmVFbWFpbENBLmNybDCBkAYI KwYBBQUHAQEEgYMwgYAwWAYIKwYBBQUHMAKGTGh0dHA6Ly9jcnQuY29tb2RvY2EuY29tL0NPTU9E T1NIQTI1NkNsaWVudEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uYW5kU2VjdXJlRW1haWxDQS5jcnQwJAYIKwYBBQUH MAGGGGh0dHA6Ly9vY3NwLmNvbW9kb2NhLmNvbTAYBgNVHREEETAPgQ1qb25AcmFkZWwuY29tMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQBLU976AGA/5JD9rkjl7vNfRGDQOEffvwseVmLEmBLot8I8vZ50oxRC LdOH0Zd8uN17J5a4xajP3blnMEdw/CQF4f6Iz8ASG7QOGLSSin+nrqD20Q8lRn8oOyrF100OsPRP Kmff/fekdOMkQOrJ3MCDAHQ2fxuWkxupLBP6PzC49qR8uyPVxIPNetMsuyYhAHtq4DJphd1bJbxi rDffqstQK+M5R+eo47KNWyJ5PD/Q8ug4clobJ7P5W1Xh7KLqnVI2JffYD5+/EEzMpAsKiQTjdxci 1z06TOr/9/Z+68anXuvyambg6OMzkTaTCyD1sE9QExHj+zGiwpUufSj2vGWjMYIDwzCCA78CAQEw gbAwgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcT B1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hB LTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQQIQc1TlPH1rtM0N YGkN/M4BGzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIB5zAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3 DQEJBTEPFw0xNjA3MTMyMDA2MzhaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBQGltrK80fOnprSy6fZhFW8FVgp WjCBwQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMYGzMIGwMIGbMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBN YW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFB MD8GA1UEAxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUg RW1haWwgQ0ECEHNU5Tx9a7TNDWBpDfzOARswgcMGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMYGzoIGwMIGbMQswCQYD VQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRow GAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDFBMD8GA1UEAxM4Q09NT0RPIFNIQS0yNTYgQ2xpZW50 IEF1dGhlbnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwgQ0ECEHNU5Tx9a7TNDWBpDfzOARswDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEASByxurqF0Ca67Aw6VDbQA/vhQ4G8QOi4NoTN8Orc9iLDvVIAtzlQGIIb U/qm5um3RWj73O86hKrjwB7ANHqxCQAjrAnl73xYSech9b2yI2kcDg9oLTl2ArrVYiT0x6YUmgeP 0djT7kTUSiPgvTRtWwsMhSzzmLnRWWnXO2oaofPMU58t6JPFvSyk3DWBoWsjtJL/pQg8yCf3tZ1f zR3u7jsHGxaei6LMwtmnpgJ+RovKxX4vA9x8H9NDXva/sCrRLpjcAyYZQ6Pr6ZXKYSbxuz4n3+UH GUYgCKEhL7V/1gTiFJQnexWg2eJ8/zR3XQYo6cyYx+EmfMpDTiOCVvmG0gAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail-81440811-1DCB-4115-BEBB-88B2BDF2523C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 22:13:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818EEB98884 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53B601F0A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6DMD2Mo025475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:13:03 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <431bafad-7993-2ae2-fba7-ad81f074bea0@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:18:32 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:13:05 -0000 On 07/13/16 15:12, Jon Radel wrote: >> On Jul 13, 2016, at 1:55 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> >> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. > Or that your searches are pedestrian little things that many have searched for in the past. In other words, do you have any evidence that what you're getting is customized to you or is it simply giving you today's top searches that start out the way yours does? I've never noticed any correlation with what I've done in the past, not that that proves anything. > > --Jon Radel > > In my case, I did a FreeBSD related search & it returned several others I had tried/done recently (last few weeks). I dunno .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 22:21:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1611FB98B13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F3A41378 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468448478; bh=AIRltCmN2ZV6peoUtgjFzgPnihEAVdt4PnfNZ2sB2H4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=KGgTX2W+rvBAgKPwGp3fHgbB/Zm7ly2cAGKL433ihv49QYk5beKRGikcEnt3tR/UEIWyWUfF5M4HZ+DCm4ByEOKe0TDJVZo226YIA18EL3+wr52I3teBHZwM0wS7YvXlYYKlanlWrXPo3l7fFnykEf1Oo2qp/oWuA75EGmoLQ6iokxgdNl6MUpa+5hV4WvYs+yAK2RCZSmCyMl4j3lOcqzez49KjjH6b9bwNn6yZc5xTmWof+s7gLRXX7V3bIVmoKaImQ+d84s0ItfBrMar7zSf+E7tRsP6/Qax1VSYxz15VS8tLTR/oEXa7NSzINv0uf2tZWDuYgkfJwdMpuRIeDA== Received: from [212.82.98.50] by nm15.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2016 22:21:18 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.69] by tm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2016 22:21:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2016 22:21:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 720776.82880.bm@smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0KIea4cVM1kr9Fc5QrcUS7zw50mR7VvhY91ZKmP0laXscSd E.kmLlKS2E9mzRkfF0ICYwsY9IffVlNhK4nav1wSAj9iGVgpvgqzFSkQOevu LPkh7ffktTq0N3s8WvrBz14RHef5.BKql7ouTku2ZS1rW.iVRtN9KTJqIdnT H2KmOS8PgXp0AWJM2MlzEVjx98asP5yR6_R0nogLSOtIXiChH4m3LdWpHHB5 vq8AjC.6jwphw0OhxRH7t.IFZvngDfidiL.zXMhwK4.1iYijmUKKewSQ_660 gs1a2cBBc6ijnCeeoePWht1VnOAy2L6u_3tYRW_HNEKAdPvkUJv1Fn5s564H C4eNkyyOjo9YmSUfuJgoPEjo3hsu_4OhgicUB2Wg.dMTcAlPgFB.Typ4ndvn mJlUjIXOScZICwVJEE9UzlcYgLlmRopMlkC7VS3y3TTsj4kf4cbGU4yW7fnh RSNDKt_H1svFIHlKPlLPUMfX8LgXBFSa354XPOsZ3UYshDIKp1o4MPiBRs.D oFVtB6Q9O0JZ0n5M7wroYQ9zpgyi9wFL0iAz0TdQc3.nOK5nhtY5dQMVIIwH DhAa6MnciokBvjIqiMiLP2Cip2ax7 X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:21:17 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:21:29 -0000 If you go into about:config searches google and removes all URLs, the Google search still tracks everything you type. If you click the search icon and unchecks "Provide search suggestions", then you only get suggestions based on your search history. However, click the search icon and "Change Search Settings". Add Startpage and make it the default. It's using Google, but provides better privacy. With "Provide search suggestions" enabled or disabled, you only get suggestions based on your search history. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 00:04:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22775B9856E for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861841CFB for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.100.29.190]) by know-smtprelay-11-imp with bizsmtp id JQ3S1t008466fER01Q3Sey; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:03:26 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.100.29.190] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=e9z7Mvd/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+He7s6SjlwGdCRwhjLOitA==:117 a=+He7s6SjlwGdCRwhjLOitA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=cAmyUtKerLwA:10 a=NMGFr6NUAAAA:8 a=s69kd1K1Gn2Cspx-67QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=yXx79wkn_pAAxnvr5nER:22 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1AD9460086; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:03:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:03:26 +0100 From: Ken Moffat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ? Message-ID: <20160714000326.GB7296@milliways.localdomain> References: <9002DCF1-B501-4A1C-AE59-67CF03649A23@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <9002DCF1-B501-4A1C-AE59-67CF03649A23@shire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.2 (2016-07-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:04:38 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:20:33AM -0600, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > No. You get the $1 back. They don't complete or confirm or close it. It is just an authorization. They do it to make sure the card data is valid, for better or worse. > > I don't like PP either, I agree with you there. But the $1 authorization will fall off your card eventually when the authorization expires. > It's been a while since I had to go through this process, but ISTR that I got an email from paypal, and I then had to reply with the reference which appeared on my bank statement, and then the nominal amount was refunded. But the details might vary with different types of accounts / different cards. ĸen -- `I shall take my mountains', said Lu-Tze. `The climate will be good for them.' -- Small Gods From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 00:29:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA33DB98C92 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABD0A1AD7; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D1D61229; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:28:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zZr4LwAC6e1t; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9FF76121B; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:28:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1468456136; bh=36LcQXLx5qHFgZjzVeUawt21DMZuuvsWyxUPdqCuHUA=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=csleYHMiJcXALW7SfBfTPWL+vt3OT6s4CKl+S9MXq1TP0mTSHszANlIU5pdZ6d2E+ QBrrAT0cnk3ikdy0p4orM+Yy+aUIjGNLVSFO3MHsiajcLFbcybpJguAV87VpoR7R2c zbs8SOhpiwBljfgrg5+R7en6U2IsCaCCkVZveDOKcy8ZFFwKv8G3IWazLb2HfL0y79 UhbUyyiUmS1j6YBp5khOFfQeGJWUwXunl1mNpRXx6v8yIlGJtRJ7djNLXdHAv5+ZXS EOUS3o+WzxDl9UK393AMabioCRXyHwmKHE0JmtfjHRyjkpcDL4qsDxHoGm78ctXAsB YNgMohn6MbRaw== Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:28:56 -0400 Message-ID: <0f58dfbf3cb163aba52d18d53e9cd922.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:28:56 -0400 Subject: Segmentation fault Samba-4.4.4 and 4.4.5 From: "James B. Byrne" To: timur@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:29:06 -0000 OS = FreeBSD=10.3 up-to-date fresh install using GPT on a BHyve 200 GB zfs guest. Neither the binary pkg samba44 nor samba45 will provision using this command: samba-tool domain provision --realm=BROCKLEY-2016.HARTE-LYNE.CA --domain=BROCKLEY-02016 --server-role=dc --dns-backend=SAMBA_INTERNAL --use-rfc2307 . . . Setting up sam.ldb data Setting up well known security principals Setting up sam.ldb users and groups Setting up self join Segmentation fault (core dumped) A segfault also happens with the 4.4.5 binary built using make install in /usr/ports/net/samba44. Samba43 provisions fine on the same system using the same command. I would report this formally as a bug report but I have not yet found where one does that for ports. Sincerely, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 04:09:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA97B98413 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 04:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0336E17C6 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 04:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6E48vGh018491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:08:58 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:14:26 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 04:09:00 -0000 On 07/13/16 17:27, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > If you go into about:config searches google and removes all > URLs, the Google search still tracks everything you type. > > If you click the search icon and unchecks "Provide search suggestions", > then you only get suggestions based on your search history. > > However, click the search icon and "Change Search Settings". > > Add Startpage and make it the default. It's using Google, but > provides better privacy. > > With "Provide search suggestions" enabled or disabled, you only get > suggestions based on your search history. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & current searches ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 04:45:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26891B98B9C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 04:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E041702 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 04:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39287844 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:45:05 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u6E4jFvc064516 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:45:15 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u6E4jB2G064514 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:45:11 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:45:11 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdinstall and unattended zfs installation Message-ID: <20160714044511.GA64449@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20160623134221.GA58972@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160623134221.GA58972@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 04:45:20 -0000 OK, I'll phrase it differently. Could someone please give me a working example of a bsdinstall script (for "bsdinstall script") for an unattended installation on ZFS? Thanks a lot in advance. Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I'm trying the "bsdinstall script myscript" automated setup feature on > a 10.3-RELEASE system. When myscript looks like this: > > PARTITIONS=md0 > DISTRIBUTIONS="kernel.txz base.txz games.txz" > > everying goes fine. > > But when I change it into: > > ZFSBOOT_DISKS=md0 > DISTRIBUTIONS="kernel.txz base.txz games.txz" > > everything gets screwed up, bsdinstall spits out lots of debug and > goes interactive. > > What am I missing? What should an install script look like for > unattended ZFS install with a default dataset layout? > > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 06:37:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D15B98BAD for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 06:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@danieldk.eu) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4B041BF2 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 06:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@danieldk.eu) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66299205FC; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:37:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=danieldk.eu; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=ICpkuY70KOq9MmGy6wpvXlsZZL0=; b=Hjq//0 o8Oj5eDlqpCOGCiFCK63lgENUcW3ctzJlVW7AF/pZWocvmm2rYMvgO9YL7X6MRWO Sjo4CMwvaSjF/kQGYhrBEcnStfvWIYwt3CVtk/APujgzwdqYiHNM4gjP/7g058F7 cw+VB4oZQ5OerG1zBo8c7tjJGy1h+JhViYAgw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=ICpkuY70KOq9MmG y6wpvXlsZZL0=; b=j4DlebgfY9yHslw4sqru+DUGBFGMcSv1El2LHGRBD4gv1Yw KMTftu/mO83oh5DJO9NiCI9PAVOr8iIHZjtUNY4MO6GYuws0evHsx9ihh86MXPWU HeHORLUS072D0nljYzCfzmYiOjwCRO3TWntcx6yE8FB3fcFA0RQwOzQujcko= X-Sasl-enc: L3DIOMz3nL35p6wfGOC+4kZMH71JnYje+CvACVqW0Ueo 1468478265 Received: from localhost (dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.128.188]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EE065F29E1; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:37:44 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl?= de Kok To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1-neo (2016-06-11) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 06:37:54 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:14:26PM +0000, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & current > searches ? I think that there are two possibilities: 1. You see a correlation that does not really exist - Google is just suggesting probably completions of a query, and other people search similar things as you do. 2. Google does track you, and is using other means to uniquely identify you. EFF's Panopticlick [1] shows that most browsers have a fingerprint that is very unique. E.g. it finds that my particular browser fingerprint is unique among 132,254 browsers so far. At any rate, I agree with the grandparent poster: if you don't want Google to track you, don't use Google. StartPage is a good suggestion, you also might want to look into DuckDuckGo. With kind regards, Daniël [1] https://panopticlick.eff.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 10:04:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5431B98364 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2891912E7 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468490490; bh=UyBagMIctypGQJ0wqRYl2ibWa6iCGVMA5NzrxQrcryo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=T/N0jv2JpNtMsQ/KFk/w2bRasYHFm+mmfUnKLDvXs9MxQFxlfMyebWvWNmSRR2Srg5BTJ0DAeJNIFLS5IRh39uqChpsrJiOjLc7GWH1p7HXtHVBg309xeGanm97nVJVmaVwwUu5k/g0FHMcqCakDaRb4kQfZqTKNVCtjnJvaeg8q6lIAdYl9dSbc5pb/2+v+i7eEhnvqoqrdLRT8uSqFGmEBKl54AgSqDuRSNUCZ4c4qInPgtP3brP/q4MdCyQ9ObNdl256+q/Q0PNlbD5ZZ+xe7C3kNVVdXznzNr15zHv3cL6wZlBE2nyvbA/YheH6dWZ9mMJ+yzQOISKCu8G6xow== Received: from [212.82.98.62] by nm22.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 10:01:30 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.70] by tm15.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 10:01:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 10:01:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 231158.31868.bm@smtp107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: sYMBZf8VM1l2R0HtVJBMe46aDizdJfKWpK0lMM3SNmIDRJF JM99Urt0.teFQ.jI7rQULBJ1CDCviun2O1bksxsasTBER_FTr_0if5h3uh.H rp_uVtngULUpbg9WdjqipZ5v.UjTYImlm3icyqYFk0lipGhDiyM3ERVZaYPR KSw4VxeCUhIGT6.Z9NIqUdcBrtLGDGfPlCi5agc7fNHJSeOcTn2ciBvABKL. m1qyZ5HZe7z9Bn_MAceHhzy19feF1RKhvwzI_aWplnP_yorrXY_TB3xqhjmi wPCD.gX.sCNuGS4Szl1s8tKIxpldS8E4t2tFOVnZyPlp0Ofd32ujFi9L6yda YW_cv6LA7YpN8HLYXzo7Fatebe_johR9DQ6nD0StEtL8LbUQQRVnSJhWev3m BHezLdSubZDTqD_4K8JlfBwPbJaFPOo5MspsEp1L7HLdPdY_34GVfdRKjvLo 6EinvYo2G9z_uOI41j9T_EBfZErJMfrkpsbWyOF9oS.Swm2.urN64fTIzCcs hOKbhId1QB.XFLAHE2wLRofk2Onrkl2CTivLmbj98v5hzX4dRbFw- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:01:29 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb0880 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-ubuntustudio-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:04:33 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:37:44 +0200, Dani=C3=ABl de Kok wrote: >On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:14:26PM +0000, William A. Mahaffey III >wrote: >> OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & >> current searches ? =20 I don't know, but it's deleted if I delete everything, e.g. cookies and cache, but keep browsing and download history. Btw. I only tested this after your request, I don't use this search thingy maself, I'm old school and open a search engine by address bar or speed dial. I also replaced Firefox with IceCat (another fork is Pale Moon), but my favourite replacement is QupZilla, it's not really a fork, but very close to Firefox and based on WebKit, so it never slows down as Firefox and it's forks do. However, regarding privacy the forks are better than Firefox is. If you want to ensure that Firefox doesn't "phone home" after e.g. editing about:config, launch Firefox and Wireshark only ;) and repeat it after a week, two weeks ... ;). >I think that there are two possibilities: > >1. You see a correlation that does not really exist - Google is just > suggesting probably completions of a query, and other people search > similar things as you do. > >2. Google does track you, and is using other means to uniquely >identify you. > EFF's Panopticlick [1] shows that most browsers have a fingerprint > that is very unique. E.g. it finds that my particular browser > fingerprint is unique among 132,254 browsers so far. > >At any rate, I agree with the grandparent poster: if you don't want >Google to track you, don't use Google. StartPage is a good suggestion, >you also might want to look into DuckDuckGo. The problem with Startpage is, that it provides privacy, but anyway relies on Google. The issue with DuckDuckGo is, less good search results, especially for other languages than English, at least for German searches. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 10:07:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6CAB98444 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F58A13DC for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468490817; bh=Yy8+7+vfR672y9VYKhOaLnHyKvlaiwxmfZuHwpx10Ks=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=NFHNJZM5gdKPSHDYt7agnzv/JoYyBBYpJ8nwRc7tJT2zh9iR7rEwlDhrSXjfmsPIpr3zfNuKNPf/4O8RQnjBkU84EPS69Pf8CSjSISQFbuGIBTQ6VH0Eshxjs8jbbCWLsXOVOkoBCY65bTM5cx+NLO9DR2/vXX6+6MSnzxOffwljOuH2aIHjJMokcGPYMTYJ5Xav/WHS5xf3IJwDBlSvcC5T9IaHCfjbV4c9NnXXMRhxceMlwFtaBdoHKy5NneORudSGF8AsAm4C9MwcsCdkovhHpBoEsEI1MZOOND4P+9LYXivOK7zeNj6v6cOYq212R+2wtTJ7E8T86I4R7azX4g== Received: from [212.82.98.54] by nm21.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 10:06:57 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.88] by tm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 10:06:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 10:06:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 545625.90593.bm@smtp125.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: LotLwYgVM1npZVa2.CviY1p.ELZKujhmvQ0C4l75wJtUgnk rZ8kdGQUQErjbABNF2Ol4jWmUFDUol1L9hRXz.WHd9F1NJTf30tFy45komI7 zg.QSixdSN8z9QCZx6EQT8HgQBCkFu2jPz1flmI6xWW8sAmZJ5ZFE0_BW_A6 y2kyHLpQHSW0Hb3GStWWzElt_O3INYVuM_2SyOYugmHipREirKvnW7hrBgI1 7tqvFjNKY5MKuTOja4Wso73ruQQys6g5xly_10wOeayi9JAmfjb.kIj7Uzcp RUHE3tTCclg9cJwBQ1ot3l1c1DtjtfDWX.0ZDR44mVzPGzx8Tace4iMoBVvg 19YlnSWaaev_YXkGqhM2zvF9rbqeam77sXxKk2qgxTfTkvZVlC.wnCtWVFDV h9E0Xq2vERT9PacF.YKk8eJmEWRW1gegmnPiGhZzoIzxD35s5COmrTsBCaSo _r6xJF2LJzme4tdSQi9Dh1gbV7rV6qDjQJ5BY.cskPH6tMfPZVWW_hs34LD_ eVFyPsxFk5Ar8m8QAPdojwacaAho542f1FTFgVvjmVC1WTj2XzWo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:06:56 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714120656.084540ca@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb0880 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-ubuntustudio-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:07:06 -0000 >You see a correlation that does not really exist - Google is just >suggesting probably completions of a query, and other people search >similar things as you do. If so, they are already tracking you, get your data while typing, not just after typing and pushing enter ;). It's possible to disable this by the settings dialog, but you anyway should monitor it with Wireshark, to ensure that nothing is going on under the hood. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 13:56:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521EB992A1 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97E51661 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id ACE0CCB8CA3; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 10.150.59.41 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <63674.10.150.59.41.1468504579.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:56:21 -0000 On Wed, July 13, 2016 11:07 pm, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & > current searches ? > I once came across the following presentation. I do not usually recommend it to my users, but only because of the language she is using. Cut away swearing, and it is actually brilliant presentation in my opinion. Anyway, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkAmNk1dXoM Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 14:00:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BF1B9937E for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B572A17D0 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6EE0lbD007424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:00:47 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <120fab1f-e49b-df36-7f2d-d389c14a11f9@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:06:16 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:00:50 -0000 On 07/14/16 01:43, Daniël de Kok wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:14:26PM +0000, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & current >> searches ? > I think that there are two possibilities: > > 1. You see a correlation that does not really exist - Google is just > suggesting probably completions of a query, and other people search > similar things as you do. > > 2. Google does track you, and is using other means to uniquely identify you. > EFF's Panopticlick [1] shows that most browsers have a fingerprint that is > very unique. E.g. it finds that my particular browser fingerprint is > unique among 132,254 browsers so far. > > At any rate, I agree with the grandparent poster: if you don't want Google > to track you, don't use Google. StartPage is a good suggestion, you also > might want to look into DuckDuckGo. > > With kind regards, > Daniël > > > [1] https://panopticlick.eff.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks, I switched to StartPage & installed the PrivacyBadger from EFF, we'll see how it goes. I already had NoScript installed, although I had to leave a fair number of openings to get various web pages to function (my bank, my broker, etc.). Thanks. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 14:18:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F059B99882 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2ACE147C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6EEIOVu020578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:18:25 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:23:54 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:18:27 -0000 On 07/14/16 05:07, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:37:44 +0200, Daniël de Kok wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:14:26PM +0000, William A. Mahaffey III >> wrote: >>> OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & >>> current searches ? > I don't know, but it's deleted if I delete everything, e.g. cookies and > cache, but keep browsing and download history. Btw. I only tested this > after your request, I don't use this search thingy maself, I'm old > school and open a search engine by address bar or speed dial. I also > replaced Firefox with IceCat (another fork is Pale Moon), but my > favourite replacement is QupZilla, it's not really a fork, but very > close to Firefox and based on WebKit, so it never slows down as Firefox > and it's forks do. However, regarding privacy the forks are better than > Firefox is. If you want to ensure that Firefox doesn't "phone home" > after e.g. editing about:config, launch Firefox and Wireshark only ;) > and repeat it after a week, two weeks ... ;). I do exactly that, have cron eliminate cookies & cache from .mozilla nightly, leave browsing history. I find the following: [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:17:32am] 492 % grep -i icecat LIST.available.txt [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:17:41am] 493 % grep -i palemoon LIST.available.txt [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:17:43am] 494 % grep -i qupzill LIST.available.txt qupzilla-qt4-1.8.9 qupzilla-qt5-1.8.9 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:17:45am] 495 % grep -i wireshark LIST.available.txt wireshark-2.0.3 wireshark-lite-2.0.3 wireshark-qt5-2.0.3 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:17:48am] 496 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p33 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p33 #0: Wed Jan 13 17:55:39 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:17:51am] 497 % grep -i wireshark LIST.installed.txt wireshark-2.0.3 Powerful network analyzer/capture tool [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:18:40am] 498 % i.e. no IceCat or PaleMoon pkg'ed up for FreeBSD 9.3R. Which QupZilla would I install, any idea ? Also, could you elaborate on that 'launch FireFox & WireShark only' ? What am I doing there ? Thanks & TIA > >> I think that there are two possibilities: >> >> 1. You see a correlation that does not really exist - Google is just >> suggesting probably completions of a query, and other people search >> similar things as you do. >> >> 2. Google does track you, and is using other means to uniquely >> identify you. >> EFF's Panopticlick [1] shows that most browsers have a fingerprint >> that is very unique. E.g. it finds that my particular browser >> fingerprint is unique among 132,254 browsers so far. >> >> At any rate, I agree with the grandparent poster: if you don't want >> Google to track you, don't use Google. StartPage is a good suggestion, >> you also might want to look into DuckDuckGo. > The problem with Startpage is, that it provides privacy, but anyway > relies on Google. The issue with DuckDuckGo is, less good search > results, especially for other languages than English, at least for > German searches. > > Regards, > Ralf > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I agree about DuckDuckGo 100%, exactly my experience. I installed StartPage & will try it out over time & see how it goes. Thanks. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 15:15:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ABBB9780B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1956E1939 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468509344; bh=3UZ9b57SgtLyD3C2aI17UBgPHwPReSA0ImuO961YGho=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=RFiQ8QRV1PqoJx2ouAVlfi5LPdNWpLLHS02FStux6+TYNNwH2tGRJu3g1NBSfDABantA7TebMGOKYSsbj/hFd2nao+rDywikNeC36bkgekR7F+EnFQucUf9WkfRFQ2HVs8JgUhM+HeGKHuzyBXX2tTS+AV+xD7Bw+y3FqKeTk87+uQeL6QOj6+DypdqBuC1lp/4j1YUmRT9sdNYHfuK8JC34TrRIFawyHkDKJUKOWzPmfMtiLxGgMYA1ifHcmtYrJSOGpiei7cPPIAb/aUSat2Qj0m57YfwbHplvzk3PJuZtzIAHxYo1vZlwF79Wp2t70N/lVapbNNrVC+YEwXiHzA== Received: from [212.82.98.57] by nm32.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 15:15:44 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.87] by tm10.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 15:15:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 15:15:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 450988.39145.bm@smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: X.DItjEVM1koVF.CwjE6eh5rY8cNSvVjFyBYyUPA64RUm_2 o8JOY07gziWvVwvv6lhauqocoe_hLNDkNTWT2fDMQmwVd_MKYNbcp4m396a5 hvNXnfW6H95s.P27IU3O2RvKReC9hXtusFiFHrE_ON.U5ame_y_7Ev6dzZ5r R2iR2uKv9CovsJnqfkXoT9vrcNCAQJREyViOWR5e_hY.0q1PUZEanL4YpYMf eWenAAZaeL13n0jqJ28sypaKQM.3at.WSsWdrH56XX0r8sXGP2AvYPkeq4ZR 4U0GGjm5FW2ZHsgNbkQmqH3PGumL.HpuT65CZ63jG1YqzfLa7TPEYoNM56GE eDOLHoYul22go_nrabnbAuaS6YwC6VyEuOflv._BIfnOtihPXJ.bOz7h6RCM DywTMhrCvIoujaQIlzZgyB.ti4xM_UgGc8xofaqVqKepufnTpzEWbg3E4raR b6WZf6vXkwiLxkwWtksvOmkuwFoZqp6YUBXw0Hjl3kRk6z62jB4HJErTlSqS 0Svsl4fKRqundy8XdMic3Crk6ajPFWbk5JIH5VrUYbnr.W.CE1_g- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:15:42 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714171542.655f6ffc@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:15:53 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:23:54 -0453.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >qupzilla-qt4-1.8.9 >qupzilla-qt5-1.8.9 Hi, I'm not using FreeBSD at the moment. A few days ago 2.0.1 was released, the predecessor is 1.8.9, so you could use it. When upgrading to 2.0.1 a few minutes are required to get back the old history and speed dial, but usually updates don't cause issues. What version you should use, Qt4 or Qt5 belongs on how good Qt5 is supported for FreeBSD. If you are using no desktop environment, but just a window manager, than you might need qtconfig-qt4 for the Qt4 version and for Qt5 you likely need qt5ct to set up font sizes and things like this. For Linux it's possible to download an IceCat tarball from fsf.org and to extract it to /opt, IOW there's no need to compile it against installed libs. I don't know if this works without issues on FreeBSD. If you don't run any software that connects to the Internet, excepted of Firefox, you could use Wireshark to monitor Internet traffic. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 15:22:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B0AB97A41 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.103]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56A5F1CC8 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468509552; bh=5gCY5y0AH7j5p4hDQv2UW8s+0qS0x+MtX4rlPCurd4Q=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=edx0XSeE6hIMxXt2pwdidTLlRZTeuv5Vf9B+mdbOYK+JKbXEP2zTB6hgsxtGmoT9wHFvFQGs9WcLg5Z7nduj4ArM3rzlOo54yNZhmTC8h4ZEeorZjF56f3d5uvlRX2uvkk08rT4aqIo3kNXkkxFiUo7LOmLyqK0B9RZDzovdNgRm6/WSHBb0USRtIwA/W+1t48uHE54CH6YHFcko3AVDEhAkWZR/+VdGgVjuKi+qpkYVHeiFvCKLdswsXRzpmL3ExfNbD3BQZub9yQpvvUpulkSBmZJ1XZBVe+68DAfaVA54ahK5AV9UX7CLZZ/VTpdTxlYn84U/XByBl8XOZjybZg== Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 15:19:12 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.75] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 15:19:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 15:19:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 542012.3780.bm@smtp112.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: NITprcYVM1nYOQIlq2CBBGdxZDLRPc9Np9iF4mEInqNyRNM .1hvuaIGPMp0_nDkEL20xQk9ALs_nEwlvdvEKhHgwN59vdLmTBJyDFtpxU04 TI49RV65mmw06EbndqYACw3GNOuJ6AmMNDX5L5jjIzJqJTu0y2I9SKwypaSE fPmEFv.AJ6VULAmo.72XOxERBL28BjzhClhEyCiKE2H_oaSTAikEK0wPvG9i joz_UF0AxCuPjyPB4zb22khhC4PVYBTioDJA6ytfm3NkofKsHsMiofj9Ew3s vArjdQKFdr1CSvuJa8Rh6rlrGU.UnT.jeErfyk2qYr3Jjxiyeh50js2BvCn4 PV7inVwyjuFpyUgcFOGXTKyfMPUQUpMLIozfC_xfRsvliY20B4XkY0IK1HJV iYdi5lBKj1ftVjAlQYRVK6Ha5sN42ZOPIcYWtLR7B.YFf8WCGOORfEyJmVI. pScEMB9dcox8Mvu_LVkrCAthQKfCnh01dzoNWYGuhIqlIjSQooqM6.ByGQdz iNaHWoLy1bKv43Ur4T45vJk8rKC9ikjY_4mlCehg1GdZcw1e7DYnApp2fc67 _q5cvbTNXgOmtQLt8A4hwiO7g12w- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:19:11 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714171911.5b166fb4@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20160714171542.655f6ffc@archlinux.localdomain> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <20160714120129.08aceea1@moonstudio> <20160714171542.655f6ffc@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:22:27 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:15:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:23:54 -0453.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>qupzilla-qt4-1.8.9 >>qupzilla-qt5-1.8.9 > >Hi, > >I'm not using FreeBSD at the moment. A few days ago 2.0.1 was released, >the predecessor is 1.8.9, so you could use it. When upgrading to 2.0.1 >a few minutes are required to get back the old history and speed dial, >but usually updates don't cause issues. > >What version you should use, Qt4 or Qt5 belongs on how good Qt5 is >supported for FreeBSD. If you are using no desktop environment, but >just a window manager, than you might need qtconfig-qt4 for the Qt4 >version and for Qt5 you likely need qt5ct to set up font sizes and >things like this. > >For Linux it's possible to download an IceCat tarball from fsf.org and >to extract it to /opt, IOW there's no need to compile it against >installed libs. I don't know if this works without issues on FreeBSD. > >If you don't run any software that connects to the Internet, excepted >of Firefox, you could use Wireshark to monitor Internet traffic. > >Regards, >Ralf PS: IIRC Pale Moon also provides to download a bin, that does not need to be compiled against existing libs. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 16:28:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1928B9900E for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvernica@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22d.google.com (mail-qk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90BAC13F0 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvernica@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id s63so77274343qkb.2 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wtXdnxLD0FQ3ecfpVZvkomgwzisCBAV1/funJx1R++E=; b=EJ3Ta1HL6CHTdy0KX+t5Q86mTANG10Gw88amcWS/jiqviVvoRbEHJhxvBgLa+Ptg77 W5lEgVhxbbi04rhE7W/NZjxVc/plo9zlGWJz5a3Tw/FZFLpTx5vSRwLskcMfniUS8OWH 5l5LMyiCv0KzhFOb8aKHzqmQnQ5Lgt7N3ajBnm6reb0ASENGR4Bfb80ZOBsoWsNH6hb0 1Ot9Ey5r9FB0ONd5JxIlRiGyn1Z8aVThxaav48jxUlSq+trcFeaUTpLe6TkuAu+0Tm1o jypACyLt7J7JoF7ITqFohhUCtEiFi5aAQeACpRZIEG2Y80QJcNCWOxjBELVKevCowCPe 96HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wtXdnxLD0FQ3ecfpVZvkomgwzisCBAV1/funJx1R++E=; b=M/QbT6+55UAesfcBEZAJK1tVt9+xyXdHZDPKBn3ULTHPKB+9fTBX1KnlcH/4DFf3kk 2DzsZ+N75LoUzldrgZEvFSqRZmU0I0pKBHnfOyRaByg3hsAxn+CUopC9Eks93Om/Js/U 9tqlzBSF+ghwOXPKEVC4+bz+qULsNjd7qLh3Yps9yhQEmz+cko6dFnAbCfPX/VohJ+Zj 6VViXw8rdIXVkqi8Rsl0BG8Y/hI3d+3BiwY6yYAPQhzddp4aN2nXvlq49rhJW8Wc83VV Zv4GqdhvKY+sXcCz5fN6J6wEmOd34EzMbH65LHfk/bV7vSgTR3SgZO45vPur0xOfKBV/ BUtw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI9TKDzr3LqMXWqGfD3HoBE/+z3bh++mYdcWPWlGkDlXzSJZzcRtqpl+nFRSs+zLz1SclYOmHeV6wbSRw== X-Received: by 10.55.177.193 with SMTP id a184mr17943450qkf.121.1468513717116; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:28:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.44.54 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Rares Vernica Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:28:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: x11: Primary monitor goes black randomly To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:28:41 -0000 Hello, I am using an HP Elitebook 2560p which has an integrated Intel video card. I use two external monitors, one connected on the DisplayPort as primary and one on the VGA port as secondary. I am not using the built-in display. I use x11 with xfce and the Intel driver. It all works fine, except that the the primary monitor (on the DisplayPort) goes black at random times. Once black, the monitor reports no signal and goes on stand by. It does not resume working if I move the mouse or type on the keyboard. One way I managed to recover it is to turn the display off with xrandr and then back on. I reported a bug on FreeBSD but I wonder if there are other things I can try or other workarounds less intrusive than the xrandr off/on one that I am using. See here for the bug report, log output, and version info: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=210929 Thanks! Rares From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 16:45:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D40B99653 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from COL004-OMC2S1.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s1.hotmail.com [65.55.34.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE7AB15F3 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.34.71]) by COL004-OMC2S1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:45:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=xrDKVqcnXoWsBAwn1ZT6Z9de16HC9HKAEM7wyaqg/8w=; b=dbF6oaabcfKSXR5DMU8zbqQ+4LtbiK2rzDNogDW7aaKPY/YIENuHSuWbSeSKbsxya0q5HVAXuvFoA1AZzMAiuU0ty1d9trvYCiuQNu8WxBNoahyVictSasBcW6kAbQ6tOnzHy6+aVDYXvkpK5zTOGR/79x0RY57vblKMVs5cCLiWh+fyYPIv+aNrIWr6ADhYlVQh423Kd97azCGcKXytsKACrINEfMnrfoTDUkcmf7lqR5WMkBgva3RIdKCaf5tBrxe95vGP1QP97u4ei53W8JyDFHQi+Xfq/ab3F9MZxWVYssFeJW+tBwPGK7J1TQEUg66sAnr1BZjLekCH3uOWwg== Received: from VE1EUR01FT009.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.2.52) by VE1EUR01HT033.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.3.106) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.534.7; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:45:29 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.152.2.51) by VE1EUR01FT009.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.2.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.539.16 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:45:29 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) by VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) with mapi id 15.01.0534.023; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:45:29 +0000 From: Manish Jain To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Why is pinta not available in ports/graphics or packages ? Thread-Topic: Why is pinta not available in ports/graphics or packages ? 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References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:36:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Manish Jain's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:45:29 +0000") Message-ID: <441t2wdsvg.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:36:27 -0000 Manish Jain writes: > I use pinta quite a lot for Paint-like work. It is a fantastic > application. But I am having to run it under wine emulation, because > there is no ports/graphics/pinta or even a pinta package. There was, but it was broken more often than it was working. If you like the program, perhaps you should adopt the port. 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From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= To: Manish Jain Cc: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:03:30 -0000 El 14/7/2016 19:48, "Manish Jain" escribi=C3= =B3: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > If you like the program, perhaps you should adopt the port. > > That sounds quite challenging. Good understanding of Makefiles, FreeBSD ports system, and possibly a few other things. I am a bit scared of the prospect of being whiplashed for blunders, but I would like to at least try it. > > Is there something like a good primer for a person to read for getting up to the task of maintaining a port ? I find the "official" documentation to be extremely useful: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 18:38:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB6B997EC for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwr@core.cwross.com) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 104421C36 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwr@core.cwross.com) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077C5207F4 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:38:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cwross.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=fhX 9JKiUbQoFj6RL2d1Z36AjcNc=; b=Onq14EbS9k2IVNAp13cstDGuahCPywZo8aN uc9bHGcgb2ieFD1WPofQImBMEMdq35mR+XB5scsLndllVsysb/YSdrQs64rBDitl vWmnHlYPkPAsPJbPm94bqwDQm5ud89DMwEjrdTlKhzY33U+eCDRcAMCQPmUs+Gm7 uE3EGufc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=fhX9JKiUbQoFj6RL2d1Z36AjcNc=; b=AKQI1 WwrHTahYX3iHfnOS5KKCCtnpknSPBeckw0uWMDtYaWHcMRPJ8r6mDPsr3Hg5Vbdw LMiy/IrrwD0ACVpwO7/BVomHFxrcNZfJ5JIPheiNsaRokDU7KKFYc6UqgDHATWpj SVbUqL7ZixhMAqsKVFQKmoWH6QZO0zAqaJvYmU= Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id C5C2816719; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1468521484.1902241.666492977.004D389B@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: Uq2oQS6fCudyOBJ38uulvF222hyO0xis07ZV8afNvDRY 1468521484 From: "Charles W. Ross" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-bf4e2c8f Subject: USB Audio Volume Too High Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:38:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:38:07 -0000 Hi everyone, I have a cheap, generic USB sound card (pcm2 on my system) that is giving me trouble on FreeBSD 10.3. It works just fine, except for the fact that the audio output seems to be at the maximum level (way too high), and I can't seem to adjust it. (I know the card itself is OK because it works normally in Linux). Below I've included some relevant output. My current 'mixer' output: cwr@nuc:~ % mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 0:0 Mixer pcm is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 And yet, the output of the device is full-blast. Here are all the relevant sysctls: cwr@nuc:~ % sysctl -a | grep pcm.2 dev.pcm.2.feedback_rate: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_3.desc: dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_3.max: 1 dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_3.min: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_3.val: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_2.desc: dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_2.max: 6096 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_2.min: 794 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_2.val: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_1.desc: USB AUDIO dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_1.max: 1 dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_1.min: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.mute_1.val: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_1.desc: USB AUDIO dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_1.max: 17152 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_1.min: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_1.val: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_0.desc: USB AUDIO dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_0.max: 17152 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_0.min: 0 dev.pcm.2.mixer.vol_0_0.val: 0 dev.pcm.2.bitperfect: 0 dev.pcm.2.buffersize: 0 dev.pcm.2.rec.vchanformat: s16le:2.0 dev.pcm.2.rec.vchanrate: 24000 dev.pcm.2.rec.vchanmode: fixed dev.pcm.2.rec.vchans: 1 dev.pcm.2.play.vchanformat: s16le:2.0 dev.pcm.2.play.vchanrate: 48000 dev.pcm.2.play.vchanmode: fixed dev.pcm.2.play.vchans: 2 dev.pcm.2.hwvol_mixer: vol dev.pcm.2.hwvol_step: 5 dev.pcm.2.%parent: uaudio0 dev.pcm.2.%pnpinfo: dev.pcm.2.%location: dev.pcm.2.%driver: pcm dev.pcm.2.%desc: USB audio And finally /dev/sndstat: cwr@nuc:~ % cat /dev/sndstat Installed devices: pcm0: (play) pcm1: (play) pcm2: (play/rec) default Any help to adjust the output level of this device would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 18:54:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1092DB99F6E for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwr@core.cwross.com) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D85181DFA for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwr@core.cwross.com) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B68A203FD; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:54:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cwross.com; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=hCdjSwCqIaMUEij1xoTr7tJsuVs=; b=q95eJ+ X2gAdW6W+Lp3lwB5RurGZO2K4dklWXLIv8b7PBcF8JA71tTx3791kT0bQlWrOqfu /PdXD49cgY8isLGIXeGlNYvAge37l/yuoDkr0gz+96McI1TH9Vqq9Am36no2a17X ZBQ0exHZdBmZIxgsY6j9OLxih3JHVQ8zZbRKc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=hCdjSwCqIaMUEij 1xoTr7tJsuVs=; b=aJmW/I5J4WwHcrRj2zYsnGsJw4rgoMdZnZnpArEPaUprP6R RWHHkXP4Ok15TeP/Jp8PwvMR/4SLEXaD9qgd74PWmlAF5V9wTeUaTpQicstwY9LU N9ZC08KOU6OH9dWSg3mm2BZ4+yoLRMsHLAGAC0+4eil2OXOMonN+AWqs+gkw= Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 13C1416719; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1468522467.1907388.666511625.19D92D2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: p9/YIBzJIBhXm9hWMsiNrRQ+52JBrxP4DIMjc1i2H81f 1468522467 From: "Charles W. Ross" To: Rares Vernica Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-bf4e2c8f Subject: Re: x11: Primary monitor goes black randomly Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:54:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:54:29 -0000 Try disabling the screen saver and/or DPMS (energy saver) via the xset command. To see what your current settings are, type 'xset q' To disable DPMS, type 'xset -dpms' To disable the screen saver, type 'xset s off' Note: these settings will not persist after you quit your current session or reboot the machine. Hope this gives you a starting point. Charlie On Thu, Jul 14, 2016, at 12:28, Rares Vernica wrote: > Hello, > > I am using an HP Elitebook 2560p which has an integrated Intel video > card. > I use two external monitors, one connected on the DisplayPort as primary > and one on the VGA port as secondary. I am not using the built-in > display. > > I use x11 with xfce and the Intel driver. It all works fine, except that > the the primary monitor (on the DisplayPort) goes black at random times. > Once black, the monitor reports no signal and goes on stand by. It does > not > resume working if I move the mouse or type on the keyboard. One way I > managed to recover it is to turn the display off with xrandr and then > back > on. > > I reported a bug on FreeBSD but I wonder if there are other things I can > try or other workarounds less intrusive than the xrandr off/on one that I > am using. See here for the bug report, log output, and version info: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=210929 > > Thanks! > Rares > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 19:41:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9160AB99CC3 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f51.google.com (mail-it0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6664D18A5 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h190so1387599ith.1 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:41:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=naHOn6nMXeQvUL+F1QRec09Z1jz9QFMuU45JPinytb0=; b=DqHbP+l8PZv7VqpIbHYwc7RncE6g6JFBKw3N4MDcg/eBh0CPlRTw9r0IUTA7rmvvXY lBct7Tz5w/4cuk+8REnfraMI7WCQgXOfBEL3fuqGIBExpZr4Zh5INVUUO4um2/j3B8rG 6ps15IbTT1XUb3Fm70I9caZpwJXBd4EWNYT/8qEzieo2bJJbElh5U6g2BIOrPQtEzaB2 1t9XlJOREX9oO2dOIBaFckg4dtnh2smfO/IDZnv9LXSQEydDJhtp1faQDzYzGBG1O9r7 SC0RWS74T6+cyuXPcNTmm0aZFrOBrwtW2IBvz1NHCpfp9uFy2Z5KPQ5GB8v/SuD1rZE9 PI0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJzKVRZbpTG6T+f+35cc/cR9KnCF0AMov78Ay2Ua822vdUMDV7EkD4P99Qpk6Ejvw== X-Received: by 10.36.71.143 with SMTP id t137mr16862298itb.0.1468525305847; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-249-211.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.249.211]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l1sm15130520ite.4.2016.07.14.12.41.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:41:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: =?utf-8?Q?Dani=C3=ABl?= de Kok Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question In-reply-to: <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:41:47 -0000 Daniël de Kok writes: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:14:26PM +0000, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> OK, but where is that history kept, & how do they associate past & current >> searches ? > > I think that there are two possibilities: > > 1. You see a correlation that does not really exist - Google is just > suggesting probably completions of a query, and other people search > similar things as you do. That would absolutely be it, since (a) Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be getting anything from Firefox); and (b) Mozilla switched Firefox's default search engine to Yahoo nearly two years ago, out of concern for users' privacy. The "suggestions" Firefox offers to show you are in-browser completions similar to those used by every search engine out there: start typing, and common/popular searches logged with the search engine are shown in a drop-down completion box. Only these suggestions are instead fetched from the default search engine and shown in the URL/Search bar, in the same way bookmarks and open tabs are. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 19:49:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A6EB99EC7 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvernica@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22f.google.com (mail-qt0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CA1A1B00 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvernica@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id j35so48394668qtj.2 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:49:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hhS0aiwBathN8qtH7VyEOEb9VZMhdFNUgFygH6udz1s=; b=BzDoKNctaSf9uSHYSzEjJ+n4g0QjYtvWeCI+9XfhI2vs8N/X75nDRwuwbEPSZppmys QXQx8RiVwpViJgXSoSIQi0rUq5RwaWnffJMFWIPh/HqquIJQrgx+r3kq+dWeDUaKCsrl a7vmsWrwja8mdaGX/EikpFCHBbTdN8JWzLvJ+LbdruXUX3nevFlfzdYMl5UQJkXsWMYE Qt+uZt7+Cj8hYMrF2bKYEXMgGpCQg5cTx7BlVqFWG+KGlC74HLYm7o6lAkAuUvNzq5wN JO3JdHuuVlZQtF9MVP/JiS7AS+aG4J13YB2CVWp8jDDdZTNmOFqEdlR6ko3h9YlNwvEM 1H+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hhS0aiwBathN8qtH7VyEOEb9VZMhdFNUgFygH6udz1s=; b=jYijSFXHzBrTaufWUm+2GCk1h48g+zPuyubIrZBF1mTkCd2w+4Bb2eRTK5Om7eN+Qw dEXUn7WDfpVBnk48DeBPIwlTHXypxNaIVsfUK/J3L7zdRYVTv+9Jc+p1eWGCLSfiVOO4 5hEMMx8Mqxh2KLQsNcpNQRfpWzhh5qFYQGJITVt/Zm06jAzXeRz8azMJa1hv2nRKdIQ/ OHsooXIqYVhDdiFTT8JfC4NoUSqqoT8KE60/exROVA907CiCDJrRNI/45zOPZ/WLFGEe iSzBohu1hB9wIFljfd1HxK/ie/KyDtNf1UvtHwQhVod+MY3r6DcVPDNeFE8p6FiemnLF yq/g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLogHI2z96j7/GpYoJ3E2lUlpgFkwUL0Lx4SgQ3YbaAluo0fNDTmt3HOAOzZbwDHezXNdR7PsGduVswdg== X-Received: by 10.200.44.78 with SMTP id e14mr23221312qta.77.1468525795538; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:49:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.44.54 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:49:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1468522467.1907388.666511625.19D92D2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1468522467.1907388.666511625.19D92D2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Rares Vernica Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: x11: Primary monitor goes black randomly To: "Charles W. Ross" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:49:57 -0000 Thanks for the suggestions. I tried both, but they did not help. Here is what I have: > xset q Keyboard Control: auto repeat: on key click percent: 0 LED mask: 00000002 XKB indicators: 00: Caps Lock: off 01: Num Lock: on 02: Scroll Lock: off 03: Shift Lock: off 04: Group 2: off 05: Mouse Keys: off auto repeat delay: 500 repeat rate: 20 auto repeating keys: 00feffffdffffbbf fadfffffffdfe5ef ffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffff bell percent: 50 bell pitch: 400 bell duration: 100 Pointer Control: acceleration: 2/1 threshold: 4 Screen Saver: prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes timeout: 0 cycle: 600 Colors: default colormap: 0x20 BlackPixel: 0x0 WhitePixel: 0xffffff Font Path: /usr/local/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/,/usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/,built-ins DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 600 Suspend: 600 Off: 600 DPMS is Disabled Font cache: Server does not have the FontCache Extension Thanks! Rares On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Charles W. Ross wrote: > Try disabling the screen saver and/or DPMS (energy saver) via the xset > command. > > To see what your current settings are, type 'xset q' > > To disable DPMS, type 'xset -dpms' > > To disable the screen saver, type 'xset s off' > > Note: these settings will not persist after you quit your current > session or reboot the machine. > > Hope this gives you a starting point. > > Charlie > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016, at 12:28, Rares Vernica wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am using an HP Elitebook 2560p which has an integrated Intel video > > card. > > I use two external monitors, one connected on the DisplayPort as primary > > and one on the VGA port as secondary. I am not using the built-in > > display. > > > > I use x11 with xfce and the Intel driver. It all works fine, except that > > the the primary monitor (on the DisplayPort) goes black at random times. > > Once black, the monitor reports no signal and goes on stand by. It does > > not > > resume working if I move the mouse or type on the keyboard. One way I > > managed to recover it is to turn the display off with xrandr and then > > back > > on. > > > > I reported a bug on FreeBSD but I wonder if there are other things I can > > try or other workarounds less intrusive than the xrandr off/on one that I > > am using. See here for the bug report, log output, and version info: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=210929 > > > > Thanks! > > Rares > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 20:12:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891E6B99604 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D87B11C58 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468526985; bh=pnuTueOZsLbh8qTuhbTJE+dAMQlUOWwWZnPqouy3TZw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=BbTTof1eJMbt+49M0ZKhauTVIEh6LGp5hXM7qwXdVHVTUn5lqsykb/BscATyPb8wTXEaRGloKnLC63OravUFjhBZ+wqLIBU/oqg6Labu00aEbQjFUmVtvdXxFbsBu+sithSAiFuuKX3U37kw4XtpA9YHJOxm0RdGD+aP5zoE8qMtCT9bg6O01YCzK7g62Jc6McTBYGxmfc3Dme97Sj0N3mNP/RieaSCgu3zEQDWBga8X59qah061Qgu0HzdOjSYq41y4Amz1JfDda+wwAuexr+1ayZcguYZSZGsKPO8ZOklg9kvXjuaHIiO2drbTgcVtS/PGVoHhGGbLqEYKz571/w== Received: from [212.82.98.51] by nm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 20:09:45 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.111] by tm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 20:09:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp148.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2016 20:09:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 223251.93936.bm@smtp148.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: YBSHm0UVM1n803MOVsZzN2xGVOCj2jaX9a.CtDG8Qt2gN6O MkJa.EpwtuCWhqbhiRimyXtbpv5qKVMtvuMaqkjsKUiTn669RY9si0NEnFp3 4OSTkLv9X2GLaJ1jndH8559U6_OXyFGzhCQb1pqLsN0cJY1RecD08WNS66UD SUiZ0B31iSjawR2hJb085K2hFvEigoHlelTE116M_xApLqNnhtyKOJZtjf4f LUUCALqONxwt9aZOBR360Cb3fuDQPrHrUoeoyV3Hn1PvvESNiTznPgn6MzRQ cMCHcXDO2ssgN1JwLHwRrKn6bLIPvp1uQ.eUwEpWO90t4vD.h18fqY1DwbSW JL_oASYOoFGGPRIWDwmIjLyLqu82KKwh9TOVHoQ0nXu8nuoUJ7lLaLV001WH HHiGJAiT4fQ6tjuzijLhqxuav6Uc3CxNXTuyuZbPsnELrF97W.OAKfYM9W3q NE0vlWJO0bG1FrsO.yCZBE.pjJqymFmz3sk8nvz_q6.K32htv70txUQ1jeUm OErQhGY8J5jt3mdn_.epjIPRHm8NG87Gfp8uXylauyGWB53flCbo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:09:44 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:12:11 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be >getting anything from Firefox) Type about:config into Firefox's address bar, then after ignoring the warning, in the search bar type google . How do you think works safe browsing and what do you think are the URLs good for? What is the geo location URL good for? Firefox shares high amounts of data with Google. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 20:31:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F0EB99B09 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A901C40 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 6CFAACB8C9F; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <15118.128.135.52.6.1468528288.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Ralf Mardorf" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:31:35 -0000 On Thu, July 14, 2016 3:09 pm, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be >>getting anything from Firefox) > > Type about:config into Firefox's address bar, then after ignoring > the warning, in the search bar type google . How do you think works > safe browsing and what do you think are the URLs good for? What is the > geo location URL good for? Firefox shares high amounts of data with > Google. Or use web browser that doesn't share anything with google. Midori does not (though I didn't fully switched to it, it doesn't fully fill the bill). Use tor project's browser (which is based on the Firefox's code, alas, still). When you go to tor project, read their suggestions about accessing web habits etc. They are extremely instructive. Do not use the same browser to go places that definitely collect information - dedicate some ("junk") browser to be used for this purpose. Google chrome can be it (they definitely do collect information, and you don't care to use it for places that collect information too). Many places do use "external" services for their statistics. Google-analytics is most often used one. (I personally hate site owners who make my browser talk to any places outside of their domain...). What you can do about these (because you _will_ hit such websites, and there is no way to know which one is and which is not using google analytics). Search for IP ranges involved and add routes for them to point to your localhost IP. (The last simultaneously will make websites of bastards using goggle analytics respond faster). And the list goes on. But many good things can be learned from a presentation I mentioned already in this thread (apologies again for presenter using non-colloquial language a lot). Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 14 22:59:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17E4B99BE5 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D671886 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9FC98B99BE4; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D265B99BE3 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from host203.r-bonomi.com (host203.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576051885 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by host203.r-bonomi.com (8.14.9/8.14.7) id u6EMNoPq016357; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:23:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bonomi) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:23:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201607142223.u6EMNoPq016357@host203.r-bonomi.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems upgrading O/S and hardware on HP XW4400 workstation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:59:31 -0000 Have this HP XW4400 workstation, currently running FreeBSD 8.4 (Dual boot with Windows XP-PRO). Has 8 gigs ram, 3 SATA HDD (1.4TB, 160gb, 80gb), and a SATA DVD-RW (DL). FreeBSD on the 1.4TB disk, WinXP on the 160G disk, twiddle the boot device order in ROM BIOS to select which disk to boot from. I am running a custom FreeBSD 8.4 kernel, with all the 'un-necessary' stuff stripped out -- added the 'twa' driver to my previously 'happily running' kernel when I put the 3ware card in -- with no drives attached to the card, I do get the 'twa' device created. Attempting to move up to FreeBSD 10.3, and add 3 more SATA disks and 2 more SATA DVD drives -- adding a 3ware 9650SE-12ML sata card for ll the extra devices. Running into all sorts of weird problems (It seems I have a talent for -that-) first off, NEITHER FreeBSD/i386 8.4 on the disk, nor FreeBSD/amd 10.3 on distribution DVD (the proverbial 'DVD1') will boot fully if there are any hard disks attached to the 3ware controller. Both _start_ to boot, and then die (I don't even get a crash-dump to dissect ). FreeBSD 8 gives me the inital boot menu, and when I hit F1 for the primary boot partition, I get one '-' on the screen, and then a total freeze-up. power-cycle required. The FreeBSD 10.3 DVD gives me the 'BTX loader' chatter and starts listing the "BIOS" devices. lists the CD as 'cd0', and the floppy as 'disk0'. then it totally freezes. power-cycle required. Without anything attached to the 9650, 10.3 continues to announce the additional drives/slices as 'disk1' through 'disk4' (the 1.4 TB drive -- ada0-- has 2 slices on it, both with BSD partition tables on each slice -- 'slice1' is 32gb, and has partitions a, b, d, e, f, g, and h on it. 'slice2' is 1.3tb+, and has partitions d and h n it.) Booting from the 10.3 dvd with nothing on the 3ware card, I get /dev entries for 'ada0', 'ada0s1'i (but no 'inferior' partitions on it), 'ada0s2', 'ada0s2d', and 'ada0s2h', 'ada1', and 'ada1s1' (the Windows drive, as expected), and 'ada2', 'ada2s1', 'ada2s2', 'ada2s3' which represent 2 FAT32 partitions, and a 'Windows recovery' partition' on the 3rd (80-gig) drive. Apparently the 10.3 boot loader doesn't see the partition table on 'ada0s1'. HoWEver, if I use the 'live CD' on DVD1, and run bsdlabel on ada0s1, _it_ shows me the "expected" partition info. None of this makes any sense to me. The 3ware controller _is_ 'known good' -- booting Windows works just fine with the add-on driver for that 3ware card. And it sees all the disks attached to the 9650 just fine. Has anybody got any ideas, suggestions, etc. about whats going on, how to diagnose/troubleshoot/fix, or a better place to ask these questions? "Help" says me, groveling. 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Wandersee To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question In-reply-to: <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:32:05 -0000 Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions writes: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be >>getting anything from Firefox) > > Type about:config into Firefox's address bar, then after ignoring > the warning, in the search bar type google . How do you think works > safe browsing and what do you think are the URLs good for? What is the > geo location URL good for? Firefox shares high amounts of data with > Google. This doesn't record personal information. The geolocation feature certainly uses the IP address at which you're currently accessing the Internet to tell where in the world you are at this particular moment, but not *who* you are or what you're searching for. (Unless you're browsing from home, and your ISP is openly sharing your account information with others, then the IP address can't reliably say anything about the who is doing the browsing, just where it's being done.) The Firefox "safe browsing" setting refers to the Google database of malicious/suspicious websites for its anti-phishing protection. It's not recording your every keystroke and feeding it to Google. This is all beside the point. The first sentence in this thread was: > I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of > Firefox ... it suggests completions for me, implying that Google has > my identity pegged. That's just downright fallacious. The mere existence of the "suggestion" option doesn't mean every Firefox user's browsing is being tracked, and even if we assume that it did mean as much it does not follow that the entity doing the tracking must be Google. The "suggestions" option has nothing to do with Google *unless* you use Google as your search engine via the Firefox interface.[1] Of course I retrieved that information using Firefox, and for all anyone knows I may have landed on the linked-to page through a Google search, and Google may have deliberately led me to a site chockful of misinformation in order to sustain the large-scale cover-up of its nefarious solar system domination scheme. So maybe that information can't be trusted. [1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-popular-search-suggestions-firefox-search-bar?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Search+suggestions -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 02:04:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C06EB98CAB for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 02:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B81C12CD for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 02:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6F24jX0029834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:04:46 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:10:15 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 02:04:54 -0000 On 07/14/16 19:46, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions writes: > >> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>> Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be >>> getting anything from Firefox) >> Type about:config into Firefox's address bar, then after ignoring >> the warning, in the search bar type google . How do you think works >> safe browsing and what do you think are the URLs good for? What is the >> geo location URL good for? Firefox shares high amounts of data with >> Google. > This doesn't record personal information. The geolocation feature > certainly uses the IP address at which you're currently accessing the > Internet to tell where in the world you are at this particular moment, > but not *who* you are or what you're searching for. (Unless you're > browsing from home, and your ISP is openly sharing your account > information with others, then the IP address can't reliably say anything > about the who is doing the browsing, just where it's being done.) The > Firefox "safe browsing" setting refers to the Google database of > malicious/suspicious websites for its anti-phishing protection. It's not > recording your every keystroke and feeding it to Google. > > This is all beside the point. The first sentence in this thread was: > >> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of >> Firefox ... it suggests completions for me, implying that Google has >> my identity pegged. > That's just downright fallacious. The mere existence of the "suggestion" > option doesn't mean every Firefox user's browsing is being tracked, and > even if we assume that it did mean as much it does not follow that the > entity doing the tracking must be Google. The "suggestions" option has > nothing to do with Google *unless* you use Google as your search engine > via the Firefox interface.[1] > > Of course I retrieved that information using Firefox, and for all anyone > knows I may have landed on the linked-to page through a Google search, > and Google may have deliberately led me to a site chockful of > misinformation in order to sustain the large-scale cover-up of its > nefarious solar system domination scheme. So maybe that information > can't be trusted. > > [1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-popular-search-suggestions-firefox-search-bar?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Search+suggestions As the OP, let me clarify the above. Whenever I start typing text into the search bar, it suggests completions *that I have typed in recently (last few weeks)*. My 2nd reply clarified that detail, not my 1st post, sorry. -- William A. 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x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:45:21 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:10:15 -0453.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >On 07/14/16 19:46, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions writes: >> >>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>>> Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be >>>> getting anything from Firefox) >>> Type about:config into Firefox's address bar, then after >>> ignoring the warning, in the search bar type google . How do you >>> think works safe browsing and what do you think are the URLs good >>> for? What is the geo location URL good for? Firefox shares high >>> amounts of data with Google. >> This doesn't record personal information. The geolocation feature >> certainly uses the IP address at which you're currently accessing the >> Internet to tell where in the world you are at this particular >> moment, but not *who* you are or what you're searching for. (Unless >> you're browsing from home, and your ISP is openly sharing your >> account information with others, then the IP address can't reliably >> say anything about the who is doing the browsing, just where it's >> being done.) The Firefox "safe browsing" setting refers to the >> Google database of malicious/suspicious websites for its >> anti-phishing protection. It's not recording your every keystroke >> and feeding it to Google. >> >> This is all beside the point. The first sentence in this thread was: >> >>> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of >>> Firefox ... it suggests completions for me, implying that Google has >>> my identity pegged. >> That's just downright fallacious. The mere existence of the >> "suggestion" option doesn't mean every Firefox user's browsing is >> being tracked, and even if we assume that it did mean as much it >> does not follow that the entity doing the tracking must be Google. >> The "suggestions" option has nothing to do with Google *unless* you >> use Google as your search engine via the Firefox interface.[1] >> >> Of course I retrieved that information using Firefox, and for all >> anyone knows I may have landed on the linked-to page through a >> Google search, and Google may have deliberately led me to a site >> chockful of misinformation in order to sustain the large-scale >> cover-up of its nefarious solar system domination scheme. So maybe >> that information can't be trusted. >> >> [1]: >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-popular-search-suggestions-firefox-search-bar?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Search+suggestions > >As the OP, let me clarify the above. Whenever I start typing text into >the search bar, it suggests completions *that I have typed in recently >(last few weeks)*. My 2nd reply clarified that detail, not my 1st >post, sorry. That was already clear. It's based on your search history. However, Firefox's safe browsing de facto is Google's safe browsing and the collected data does say much about people living in some areas. And therefore the claim "Google won't be getting anything from Firefox" is a wrong claim. Other browsers have other pros and cons, I'm just referring to the claim "Google won't be getting anything from Firefox". People with a special IP/geo location might visit more heterosexuell or more homosexuell porn sites, might visit more Christian or more Muslim websites, might visit more racists websites, might visit more tobacco and liqueur websites, sport websites, etc. than people with other IPs/geo locations. The information about an IP + the information of Firefox's version and its window size and a few other hints even could be enough to know exactly what person visited which website. However, even if they don't know your name, the company knows exactly what groups of people live in which areas, in a more correct way, than by an averaged old school statistics. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 08:14:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253A8B994BE for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DD1717CF for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id u6F8E79O080552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id u6F8E7D3080551; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02381; Fri, 15 Jul 16 01:10:56 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:10:49 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: rvernica@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11: Primary monitor goes black randomly Message-Id: <57889a89.+gS26xnVFNwWE+uK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:14:12 -0000 Rares Vernica wrote: > I am using an HP Elitebook 2560p which has an integrated Intel video card. > I use two external monitors, one connected on the DisplayPort as primary > and one on the VGA port as secondary. I am not using the built-in display. > > I use x11 with xfce and the Intel driver. It all works fine, except that > the the primary monitor (on the DisplayPort) goes black at random times. > Once black, the monitor reports no signal and goes on stand by. It does > not resume working if I move the mouse or type on the keyboard. One way I > managed to recover it is to turn the display off with xrandr and then back > on. I suspect this is an x11 problem, not a FreeBSD problem. I have been seeing something similar on a Dell laptop, using gnome, with the built-in display as primary and an external 1920x1080 flatscreen on a DVI port (on the docking station) as secondary. The primary occasionally goes blank just after logging in (via xdm), about the time when xrandr would be setting up the dual screens, and the only way I've found to bring it back is to tweak the screen positions slightly in gnome-control-center (which then presumably runs xrandr when I click Apply). I suspect a race condition since it happens only occasionally. So why do I think this is not a FreeBSD issue? Because it happens on Fedora Linux (at $DAYJOB). 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I've tried using safe mode, to no avail. Additionally, the screen does= n't refresh; it leaves this information on the screen: EFI framebuffer information: addr, size 0x0, 0x0 dimensions 640x480 stride 640 masks 0x00ff0000 0x0000ff00 0x0000000ff 0xff000000 I can actually use the menus, the system is responsive. However, I can only= see the small portion at the top, which makes it impossible to actually pe= rform the installation. Any thoughts? Nick G nmgordon@memphis.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 09:53:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8750FB97DEE for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (forward1h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A1211C6C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (smtp2h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::116]) by forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DAA892114B; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:53:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D5EEC170045F; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:53:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 5c1bAnS9JC-rJem2L42; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:53:20 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1468576400; bh=G/qlSOpWyylKzn6w5bPMojgK5VLdNPs55HPl2RrQ+uc=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=W9CmQjyW/5RJNDthoTqefwyfrfUfQu/RwwbyIpGttdLwdKqKydbrnGmESjMOT6AZJ jPdt0dQ77MzmqzfLCnsLs7rPDSQvGdpkdNMG/iZyARGterM+DPPKiFKTqQLEKVxI+7 A5+fXsOag9KZnQM06KIcq0MudAvSEW0OFUqFZSWQ= Authentication-Results: smtp2h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1468576397.7951.7.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed From: Stari Karp To: Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 05:53:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0ae6cb58-4815-6608-aecd-ab2f6aea5c5d@bananmonarki.se> References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> <0ae6cb58-4815-6608-aecd-ab2f6aea5c5d@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:53:33 -0000 On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 05:40 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-07-12 23:47, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 06:45 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > > > > On 2016-07-10 11:27, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 06:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 2016-07-10 00:44, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 > > > > > >                 glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > > > > > >                 gmodule-export-2.0 > > > > > >                 gnome-desktop-3.0 > > > > > >                 folks >= 0.9.5 > > > > > >                 folks-telepathy > > > > > >                 folks-eds > > > > > >                 libnotify > > > > > >                 telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > > > > > >                 libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > > > >                 libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > > > >                 libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > > > >                 goa-1.0 > > > > > >                 gee-0.8 > > > > > >                 champlain-0.12 > > > > > >                 clutter-gtk-1.0 > > > > > >                 geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > > > > > >                 ) were not met: > > > > > There you have the error. Upgrade your ports and try again. > > > > The ports are updated and problem exist. > > > Your ports tree is not up to date. That is why configure > > > complain. > > > > > > gtk+-3.0 >= 3.16.0 you have a version prior to 3.16.0 > > > Same with the other files that have the >= sign. > > > _______________________________________________ > > I don't know what is wrong and it is Synth guilty because I have > > installed gtk 3.18.8_3 which was build and installed with Synth, > > > You need to find these in the ports tree and upgrade them > glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > > folks >= 0.9.5 > telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > My versions: folks 0.11.1 telepathy-glib 0.24.1 libe-book is version 0.1.2_4. It is version which we have in ports geocode-glib 3.18.8_3 glib 2.46.2_2 libedataserver and libedataserverui: I don't know what part of ports are But the problem is also my pkg 1.8.7 version which core dump if I run pkg upgrade -f. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 12:12:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E146B9A99E for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listjm@club.fr) Received: from smtp26.services.sfr.fr (smtp26.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA66E1788 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listjm@club.fr) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (109.0.121.78.rev.sfr.net [78.121.0.109]) by msfrf2621.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A2681C00097F; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:06:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (109.0.121.78.rev.sfr.net [78.121.0.109]) (Authenticated sender: juanmolina@sfr.fr) by msfrf2621.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTPA; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: sfr.fr; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=juanmolina@sfr.fr Subject: EFI Framebuffer issue during FreeBSD 10.3 installation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmgordon@memphis.edu From: Juan =?iso-8859-1?b?UmFt824=?= Molina Menor Message-ID: <5788D1BD.70300@club.fr> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:06:21 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-sfr-mailing: LEGIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:12:38 -0000 > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 10.3 on a Thinkpad T430s, and in two different boot images I'm seeing a problem where when the installer starts, I can only see the ncurses (?) framebuffer in a small portion at the top of my screen. I've tried using safe mode, to no avail. Additionally, the screen doesn't refresh; it leaves this information on the screen: > > EFI framebuffer information: > > addr, size 0x0, 0x0 > > dimensions 640x480 > > stride 640 > > masks 0x00ff0000 0x0000ff00 0x0000000ff 0xff000000 > > > I can actually use the menus, the system is responsive. However, I can only see the small portion at the top, which makes it impossible to actually perform the installation. Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried playing with the GOP commands in the loader prompt?: gop [list | get | set ] Hope it helps, Juan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 13:16:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EEAB98698 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6830B1369 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6FDGh6x015519 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:16:44 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:22:12 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:16:46 -0000 On 07/14/16 23:51, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:10:15 -0453.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 07/14/16 19:46, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions writes: >>> >>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:41:45 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>>>> Google and Mozilla are competitors (and therefore Google won't be >>>>> getting anything from Firefox) >>>> Type about:config into Firefox's address bar, then after >>>> ignoring the warning, in the search bar type google . How do you >>>> think works safe browsing and what do you think are the URLs good >>>> for? What is the geo location URL good for? Firefox shares high >>>> amounts of data with Google. >>> This doesn't record personal information. The geolocation feature >>> certainly uses the IP address at which you're currently accessing the >>> Internet to tell where in the world you are at this particular >>> moment, but not *who* you are or what you're searching for. (Unless >>> you're browsing from home, and your ISP is openly sharing your >>> account information with others, then the IP address can't reliably >>> say anything about the who is doing the browsing, just where it's >>> being done.) The Firefox "safe browsing" setting refers to the >>> Google database of malicious/suspicious websites for its >>> anti-phishing protection. It's not recording your every keystroke >>> and feeding it to Google. >>> >>> This is all beside the point. The first sentence in this thread was: >>> >>>> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of >>>> Firefox ... it suggests completions for me, implying that Google has >>>> my identity pegged. >>> That's just downright fallacious. The mere existence of the >>> "suggestion" option doesn't mean every Firefox user's browsing is >>> being tracked, and even if we assume that it did mean as much it >>> does not follow that the entity doing the tracking must be Google. >>> The "suggestions" option has nothing to do with Google *unless* you >>> use Google as your search engine via the Firefox interface.[1] >>> >>> Of course I retrieved that information using Firefox, and for all >>> anyone knows I may have landed on the linked-to page through a >>> Google search, and Google may have deliberately led me to a site >>> chockful of misinformation in order to sustain the large-scale >>> cover-up of its nefarious solar system domination scheme. So maybe >>> that information can't be trusted. >>> >>> [1]: >>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-popular-search-suggestions-firefox-search-bar?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Search+suggestions >> As the OP, let me clarify the above. Whenever I start typing text into >> the search bar, it suggests completions *that I have typed in recently >> (last few weeks)*. My 2nd reply clarified that detail, not my 1st >> post, sorry. > That was already clear. It's based on your search history. > > However, Firefox's safe browsing de facto is Google's safe browsing > and the collected data does say much about people living in some areas. > > And therefore the claim "Google won't be getting anything from Firefox" > is a wrong claim. > > Other browsers have other pros and cons, I'm just referring to the > claim "Google won't be getting anything from Firefox". > > People with a special IP/geo location might visit more heterosexuell or > more homosexuell porn sites, might visit more Christian or more Muslim > websites, might visit more racists websites, might visit more tobacco > and liqueur websites, sport websites, etc. than people with other > IPs/geo locations. > > The information about an IP + the information of Firefox's version > and its window size and a few other hints even could be enough to know > exactly what person visited which website. However, even if they don't > know your name, the company knows exactly what groups of people live > in which areas, in a more correct way, than by an averaged old school > statistics. > > Regards, > Ralf > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Wouldn't TOR defeat the geo+IP mapping ? Indeed, since I started using TOR, whenever I visit Google, I have to do a captcha-style click through to get my search results back .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 13:53:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F15B99569 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E111F54 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 136DECB8CB4; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:53:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:53:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <64069.128.135.52.6.1468590832.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:53:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:53:54 -0000 On Fri, July 15, 2016 8:15 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Wouldn't TOR defeat the geo+IP mapping ? Yes, it does. Tor itself does not pass information to them it can get from your machine locally. The only information that can be collected is about exit point IP. > Indeed, since I started using > TOR, whenever I visit Google, But when you are using tor (or tor browser), _YOU_ with your habits of doing things can defeat significant portion of privacy protection tor gives you. One of the things to avoid here: don't use google for searches. On tor project website there is short writeup. But that is really instructive, it gives a bunch of simple rules and good practices. The link also is on the first page when you start tor browser. Here it is: https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warning Valeri >I have to do a captcha-style click through > to get my search results back .... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 14:06:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C391EB99982 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 503ED17FD for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6FE6BKJ004500; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:06:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed To: Stari Karp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> <0ae6cb58-4815-6608-aecd-ab2f6aea5c5d@bananmonarki.se> <1468576397.7951.7.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <5c70aabf-09b8-91d2-7de5-b59a15a99a65@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:06:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1468576397.7951.7.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:06:22 -0000 On 2016-07-15 11:53, Stari Karp wrote: > You need to find these in the ports tree and upgrade them >> glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 >> >> folks >= 0.9.5 >> telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 >> libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >> libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >> libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 >> geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 >> > My versions: > > folks 0.11.1 > telepathy-glib 0.24.1 > libe-book is version 0.1.2_4. It is version which we have in ports > geocode-glib 3.18.8_3 > glib 2.46.2_2 > libedataserver and libedataserverui: I don't know what part of ports > are Those two is provided by databases/evolution-data-server > But the problem is also my pkg 1.8.7 version which core dump if I run > pkg upgrade -f. Can't help you with that. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 14:18:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59245B99CB0 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clan@wheel.dk) Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [IPv6:2001:6c8:130::97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freesbee.wheel.dk", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CBD31D74 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clan@wheel.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1023) id 0635237280E; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:18:25 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=wheel.dk; s=20131204; t=1468592305; bh=ds+Gq9gbmUSis3R04MFWfbVIQWn9KOsKI5+wv7qzFpk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=SzYIp1OqYQ/m8cJLm7HI/Eje55SNbBUUPaH+6tJvo1LMdKErk3NFzzrK3r8Z69dL0 i/6VWAVOkfXHCWQEe5Uw0kvhoZUhfu88o1FfblVEKXU2LUPXvZZu1iuMcrKoBls5FS YiIB+dM7XNx8RL4jPjq0uCUlfHpV660K/rLFZ52qLrvHPEje/DpcEWes/gxYK8S1YI CqbgxAYfvcfyzCC2dZXGyjTiIw18+e87WeazFn8CP3U/FT+rjWTis5Me5bC50XVgZx mnWPBClHRmIoZqGs4wMc0X7IxMwJI5o4ZvfDzEnpv5cEmDuQSacZO0dvh+Gtr6s07G QGxF7XPg1DB7g== Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E5837280D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:18:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:18:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Claus Andersen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Panic during boot when mounting ZFS root Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:18:35 -0000 Hi, I would like to have some advice on continued troubleshooting of this. Facts: - System is running 10.1 (or maybe later) - ZFS on root - pool name is tank - Panics when mounting during boot - Same in single user mode - I can PXE boot server to memtest - and RAM should be OK (Only 30 min testing) - I can PXE boot server into "rescue" system which is mfsbsd 10.3 - The server is remote but I can get IP KVM In the rescue system I can see the pool - and at first glance it looks good. root@rescue:~ # zpool import pool: tank id: 17627562107603613001 state: ONLINE status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier, though some features will not be available without an explicit 'zpool upgrade'. config: tank ONLINE raidz2-0 ONLINE ada0p3 ONLINE ada1p3 ONLINE ada2p3 ONLINE ada3p3 ONLINE ada4p3 ONLINE ada5p3 ONLINE ada6p3 ONLINE I try to import it - but it fails: root@rescue:~ # zpool import -o altroot=/mnt tank cannot import 'tank': pool may be in use from other system use '-f' to import anyway Then I add the -f switch - and the server panics! root@rescue:~ # zpool import -f -o altroot=/mnt tank I think it writes a line or two on the console but it reboots too quickly for me to see what it is. So no error messages to search on :-/ My intention was to try to run a "zpool scrub tank" but I need to do the import first. This is at the edge of my ZFS troubeshooting knowledge. Does anyone have any advice on how to proceed? Kind Regards, Claus Andersen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 14:56:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE9CB9A787 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE8013C2 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563B361320; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V7ArXdyG91DC; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2F97612CE; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:56:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1468594583; bh=SfOmwHQ6l86F4M5P69aMTVv6ax6isZf2gwkGXqxy798=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=ktgjVabcAI0t3FfmNeN6Wer5phN1lSyLV4z6lpv1I4O12sQT2mHy6Cf1wwrJjVa3Q WlMTMcb2Xhjwfui1MXnHP9SnqgA/Cr8O0HFE/OInEkZ9rwSegZXH/sWOh797i/7xpa K1GPKoyDfHqMy5SRqiJXIysoOqIFM+FKHsjzlpl+fyFyRqKaYswqfJV1q1qOJhtrN8 OEqGLFBUk4qbOT93FV+wW1EXGkYdiNYnP9UydHjRzpCXIm14vOAUe4xW8DpDMrqBSU 0B3p1IEZ7KzLOeXxtUaqAP8cF6V07F5iWzYN2LDr4HNic1BY6ya5As+1bcMYP5jbok +DHFdlaMZ2X0Q== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:56:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2274e7b35315141ce5695105c4e82ad3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <2274e7b35315141ce5695105c4e82ad3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:56:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Samba-4.3 on FreeBSD-10.3 From: "James B. Byrne" To: samba@lists.samba.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:56:32 -0000 Reply cross-posted to FreeBSD list. On Fri, July 15, 2016 09:31, James B. Byrne wrote: > I have created a Samab AD-DC on a FreeBSZD-10.3 host. The setup > checks out and I am able to join the domain from a Win7 workstation > and run the ADUC management console in RAST. I have opened the UNIX > Attributed properties tab for "Domain Admins" in the ADUC and set the > unix properties. > > However, I get this notice "UNIX Attributes Unwilling To Perform" and > after making the changes I cannot get this test to pass: > > getent group "Domain Admins" > > returns nothing. > > From what I have found from searching it appears that the issue is > related to settings in /etc/nsswitch.conf. However, I cannot find an > authoritative reference as to what these settings should be for > Samba43. Can anyone provide me with such a reference or > authoratiavely state what the settings should be? > > The default settings for FreeBSD-10.3 in /etc/nsswitch.conf are: > > # > # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file > # $FreeBSD: releng/10.3/etc/nsswitch.conf 224765 2011-08-10 20:52:02Z > dougb $ > # > group: compat > group_compat: nis > hosts: files dns > networks: files > passwd: compat > passwd_compat: nis > shells: files > services: compat > services_compat: nis > protocols: files > rpc: files > > Any help with this is gratefully appreciated. > > Rowland penny rpenny at samba.org Fri Jul 15 14:23:10 UTC 2016 > >> Well, if it was Linux, you would change: >> >> >> passwd: compat >> group: compat >> >> To >> >> passwd: compat winbind >> group: compat winbind >> >> You would also need to set up the libnss_winbind links, see here for >> Linux info: >> >> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Libnss_winbind_links >> >> I suspect you will require something very similar >> >> Rowland >> The FreeBSD manpage says this about nsswitch WRT compat: compat support `+/-' in the ``passwd'' and ``group'' databases. If this is present, it must be the only source for that entry. Likewise there are no libnss_windbind.so files of nay description on the FreeBSD system. The nearest to this I could find is: find / -name \*libnss\* /usr/local/lib/samba/libnss-info-samba4.so I think that this is a configuration issue but I cannot tell where or what I am to change to get this to work on FreeBSD. There is nothing the the FreeBSD handbook that covers setting up an AD-DC in any detail beyond the bare acknowledgement that it is possible. I am cross-posting this to the BSD in case anyone on the BSD list reads this and has an answer specific to BSD. I would appreciate receiving the information form any source. Thanks, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 16:10:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBE1B9A6B9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 123AA1471 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845C561350; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:10:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tscAs3CFR-hP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EA84612CE; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:10:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1468599035; bh=hJNS5u87JDI4NyyBAqh1vNBejHhPYpUNRBMMt4t07iQ=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=OG6z6acAZV8OogsjCr98tSzItJbo7VNAQJKEbl2cA9n8mjcKa3AUcWE1mi9ZGxPq6 lmlzgE6qT8WIqdsCUk/a8EPTqcUD4saTBnaLDXy31EzAJ/kY1F6NU87miGQmBlzOxK 3Bgfl7y4yFkxt0KGR3LEHaza6gFxvjEYmN1GMoXr0OegBH5QTAjlSyirIJlu/hKH3/ ND8ECrQLAxTBUBKRG+8I8NngjrS8l3qGDQJI3yfid/AFPBi8tEnou1JLB/lepa8NK3 sSnpRWcS3hF0MB+KWE5xqj4GD5d3uGoDrXP2OU8dUzGkAWnXLVvJ7ivlMUPSH4P2us yQWm7kGfltFtg== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:10:35 -0400 Message-ID: <5b73bb737f6f8b634a23a750278ed380.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <2274e7b35315141ce5695105c4e82ad3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:10:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Samba-4.3 on FreeBSD-10.3 From: "James B. Byrne" To: samba@lists.samba.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:10:40 -0000 On Fri, July 15, 2016 10:56, James B. Byrne wrote: > Reply cross-posted to FreeBSD list. > > On Fri, July 15, 2016 09:31, James B. Byrne wrote: >> I have created a Samab AD-DC on a FreeBSZD-10.3 host. The setup >> checks out and I am able to join the domain from a Win7 workstation >> and run the ADUC management console in RAST. I have opened the UNIX >> Attributed properties tab for "Domain Admins" in the ADUC and set >> the >> unix properties. >> >> However, I get this notice "UNIX Attributes Unwilling To Perform" >> and >> after making the changes I cannot get this test to pass: >> >> getent group "Domain Admins" >> >> returns nothing. >> >> From what I have found from searching it appears that the issue is >> related to settings in /etc/nsswitch.conf. However, I cannot find >> an >> authoritative reference as to what these settings should be for >> Samba43. Can anyone provide me with such a reference or >> authoratiavely state what the settings should be? >> >> The default settings for FreeBSD-10.3 in /etc/nsswitch.conf are: >> >> # >> # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file >> # $FreeBSD: releng/10.3/etc/nsswitch.conf 224765 2011-08-10 >> 20:52:02Z >> dougb $ >> # >> group: compat >> group_compat: nis >> hosts: files dns >> networks: files >> passwd: compat >> passwd_compat: nis >> shells: files >> services: compat >> services_compat: nis >> protocols: files >> rpc: files >> >> Any help with this is gratefully appreciated. >> >> > > Rowland penny rpenny at samba.org > Fri Jul 15 14:23:10 UTC 2016 >> >>> Well, if it was Linux, you would change: >>> >>> >>> passwd: compat >>> group: compat >>> >>> To >>> >>> passwd: compat winbind >>> group: compat winbind >>> >>> You would also need to set up the libnss_winbind links, see here >>> for >>> Linux info: >>> >>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Libnss_winbind_links >>> >>> I suspect you will require something very similar >>> >>> Rowland >>> > > The FreeBSD manpage says this about nsswitch WRT compat: > > compat support `+/-' in the ``passwd'' and ``group'' databases. > If this is present, it must be the only source for that entry. > > Likewise there are no libnss_windbind.so files of nay description on > the FreeBSD system. The nearest to this I could find is: > > find / -name \*libnss\* > /usr/local/lib/samba/libnss-info-samba4.so > > I think that this is a configuration issue but I cannot tell where or > what I am to change to get this to work on FreeBSD. There is nothing > the the FreeBSD handbook that covers setting up an AD-DC in any detail > beyond the bare acknowledgement that it is possible. > > I am cross-posting this to the BSD in case anyone on the BSD list > reads this and has an answer specific to BSD. I would appreciate > receiving the information form any source. > > Thanks, > I experimented and changed the entries in nsswitch.conf to passwd: files winbind group: files winbind and things seemed to work thereafter. The combination 'group: compat winbind' definitely does not work. If someone has a reference where this information is provided then I would be most appreciative if you could send it to me. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 16:49:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49436B99498 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f47.google.com (mail-it0-f47.google.com [209.85.214.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13C7A1637 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f47.google.com with SMTP id f6so23265293ith.1 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:49:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=JitQ92G97Al0myRGw1c+odmbu7XsLSk8O68bkNdAYh4=; b=m1+dfTnpmx7OOzTid1LMRvPA/m9nKxFwNUYJbvqOOpmKTlL5DJx5G9vLGwxZcjofDZ 5e5LkKvl5VX444QXcUlUhN8WCmrCMqtdBSDBQBevKWGf4nb2zM+B5/fC9ZWyHh5jT1J/ 7qX1W++eRLogkQhGwJKIjmpczg2LiKaans/eyUwup1i2mbs09GWNS9EwIKBpy/ugAATN hEjWh+gIYfIPx+sHN4vC0QvV0eXKO7YXXGyJdyPWC9LREoDB5656++7NOLWLb0F9VXeZ 8nwFRODpUpCPiyGheRGIjEhX0uyZyaxfg/WTy0wvr5fFAN5P3T0h2r4TkjKDOy2D99Ux 4MhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKSnjyOJ9hSFV3wQFZc2oxtl9cv9T9OPSq4VjSmrOop8KUqSjMHWmdENXFhfEqsxA== X-Received: by 10.36.201.133 with SMTP id h127mr24298463itg.36.1468601342732; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-158-136.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.158.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e63sm1802711ith.0.2016.07.15.09.49.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question In-reply-to: <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:49:00 -0500 Message-ID: <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:49:04 -0000 Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions writes: > However, Firefox's safe browsing de facto is Google's safe browsing > and the collected data does say much about people living in some areas. > > And therefore the claim "Google won't be getting anything from Firefox" > is a wrong claim. > > Other browsers have other pros and cons, I'm just referring to the > claim "Google won't be getting anything from Firefox". Seeing as the question was over Google getting readily identifying information from Firefox, I assumed my meaning could be inferred from that context. Obviously Google can and will "get something from" Firefox, since Firefox still allows people to use Google services. That still doesn't mean that Google is identifying *you*, Ralph Madorph or William A. Maherty III, by the things you type into the Firefox search bar. Firefox takes the words you type in and, when you hit Enter, passes them on to the search engine you use. The browser you use to perform the searches is of no consequence: as long as you use a search engine that records your past searches, those searches will be recorded *after* they are sent by the browser to the remote computer performing the actual search. I apologize for derailing this conversation. Privacy on the web is a worthwhile concern, but I've grown tired of the overwrought paranoia that accompanies that concern. To most of the world, including the people you meet every day, you are not Ralph Madorf. You are not William A. Maheffey III. You are a faceless number nobody cares about, and beyond your having a legitimate IP that counts toward advertising revenue or targeted demographic marketing, or socio-political studies, or your name matching up to the credit card number and address you enter when you make purchases with them, they don't care who you are or what you're doing on the Internet. The few people out there that do want to use potentially identifying information against you pose a problem, but the solution isn't to fight to keep all information that you fear could make you a potential target of some malicious entity a secret. That simply reinforces the idea that many practically harmless aspects of our lives actually should be hidden; that the mundane searches we perform are some weakness that can be exploited; that such exploitation is ultimately the fault of the exploited; and that the potential personal harm of that information outweighs the potential social good of the otherwise anonymous information it accompanies. And it's simply an impossible goal anyway. Perhaps I had a knee-jerk reaction to this thread and spoke out of turn. Sorry; I'll leave it at that and stop hijacking it. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 16:50:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ADDB995F9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm33-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm33-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECC7B1812 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468601274; bh=vKEoE9U2lJf+5SE9vddUsAutMRCt+2CwjrN95vgRZu4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=CAC82qhAq3jr9ZVXqg4ZePrT8ciQzRvpur4wAeRV+H0PkUXD3ABJ5K3JoMXdQI4xxpHKg31LkAMupygrJJtCPHu7yBE6E41GHxdkQXyReunM/0PtOvMZOnll04hBY9U/cAHXGFl4bLQ8cAVWm0k2ZwA07HfUAcokUyC1CxDpI4NoLoj3HpYg1S3q0YTTg8iromiq6dl1R3KBODECNRzFflLu4WkIPtCd1H9ikDRT6V6lcScCeEDk12hfhCS7C1SkVfJ5E0tbReh29WCOnByMazgmo5a/7Q3z2fgdKd/5XHxYUZsSDVycDG6Z0SkLy6zPVslO+a7YSXNnP6tBaPezUw== Received: from [212.82.98.126] by nm33.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 16:47:54 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.68] by tm19.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 16:47:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 16:47:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 27245.70897.bm@smtp105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: o3LGFpYVM1mNtNcDvkRVoy9BNhR1mPd1M9nHuBynXmC.1ri Z3SVsYAgReoqkZ20AlEBdGVelnFdlkXR50Sk.cwEtBiMheetdMj5LEBdbnR. 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Mahaffey III wrote: >Wouldn't TOR defeat the geo+IP mapping ? Indeed, since I started using >TOR, whenever I visit Google, I have to do a captcha-style click >through to get my search results back .... TOR is a very complex topic. First read the TOR FAQ, to understand major issues of TOR. TOR is very good, but has got many pitfalls and an inexperienced user easily could render TOR usage useless. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 16:54:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA5EB9980F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54B4C1C48 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468601670; bh=Jw6vTtm/HwVDY9VqSkMTTLPbgayp1uOt3CyCHVKTL7k=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=JnJ/eAzN8+25IKfbwCHUbhHImENy3XSez19JOja6BnCAv0ysy2sHLV+44/gYXQhPHlV++rT6Lgy4Hmk5qJfeMnGPY2pfXM+SKKI/oA3S4EZpvNl224bO9Av08NdY9Tna+Pvfd9+xr8LLLM3ExiERC3+Z+LBA5nWqG62PzEvzuLu04QOc9sGNniavQ2zQdF8jG54Ad+/AbkMiEmk20OiQKlX56ygLD6njx+SK2y6zZ0fPTNKryO/cVAFZBsCKE5ZynJacvdU1kH9H3NLpl9qsiMTUUogwwHYfDAOZ+2zhBHdfYYPoN5WukVAyVWjUyL5IC0ENqzXMImKltsPb7/0Ufw== Received: from [212.82.98.56] by nm17.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 16:54:30 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.69] by tm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 16:54:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 16:54:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 913018.54951.bm@smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: z16l16wVM1mHHLxuKGKUoEZaEz1qb9lvIxICB9WpYI2ESC8 LE35pNYD1B6nJIVu117oH42upkFMbFm6gEGwma5qUmoUvWiW8C..V0bXog6M 4.OwW8oUcuxVF8xANJcXnVsu9KsLz3mysRKMmvRDKnd6KWPnDsVfeVscQjUy CO9zzMz6nbRgCDo1d7zTmIwGP9iZDgh8Gd020aiyLgCQH8gA3rYw4wBQvUo0 YHeoe1Kf5rd2p2Q4Acuhn3piyws53HMKfUyoE3NJL03WSu_0pZyvUG4p.ePQ lM1bsJLqAGbwrJJUOW89_BKPVFtlTmPoVvIVTOLv2BeJ3OkLJqSYwt4GoVzR nXAsgIdvMUtqZNrM963l7lWc_63KB6Z_dpRPYcklUdzyCmsMWuDdM7wHKeOZ Nwp8M3T0tGlcbDLl46Az0RlpINZmgXW_CvS5Gj2vEazw8wRtxTWHHBKiI9c9 PR14ko_xSimUDzak.iOErWEVbBOLZAAd0zeaHdcPVYCjAnLWR1Q9sYUQ90bH Ao0V9KG0MbsLQ0vspaSKrvmsUUvbFbQWVM.awCGaewLPjJHQkvZSG X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:54:30 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:54:34 -0000 Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, they could identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. What they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 17:03:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21713B99CA3 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9B017E7 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id CF3FFCB8CA9; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Ralf Mardorf" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:03:28 -0000 On Fri, July 15, 2016 11:54 am, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google > data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version > etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, !!! > they could > identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. Says who? I don't do anything illegal, but I do know that all governments who were able to collect information about individuals, did so. And what these governments eventually did is well known as well (Stalin Russia, Hitler Germany,... and the list goes on). The most depressing lesson of history is that people never learn lessons of history ;-( Valeri > What > they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group > living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 17:51:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7477B9AD1D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07FC31F98 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468604954; bh=JnoS5Zsw2Jf4eYdd85XJkZD4LmHcJj0ix99kuqaf6Pk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=DJHNT7ErcOSq2rVdCi0A9fYvGV4A2wzt8D16LTQCwSJOg3tOkd4OjwXt9z3Tcgt5ThIGSIMx7Qmnc7F/QfBjYknxfCJejmEh5HzE7KKXWxJCiuUwoipTbfvfqNXOwqWYd3rOCCrfhHQjK4CYV57O9j+90zJZVZ3nU1vRuk7rdB43GmIWxHJtT0ZY7oNw6Yc0iFWVnSLPTMql4vUvAmq/QQ3VDHNXRGh/oMeKsm5oqfrALxLWQcfWhZFsE1lByo9V+aHaDa8iAvxUFcGSNx3DCQhk9dfmDYDum3B0tAmfE0w/XoetwlhLBXU0fbEsSIs5Nn5ndT+w0QSZc26/B/kovw== Received: from [212.82.98.49] by nm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 17:49:14 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.97] by tm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 17:49:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 17:49:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 880040.94858.bm@smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Om_CJiEVM1kqEMnbP_S5lB0s67FD3epEhuRq4f0KhmKZkMS eKJuBvOLhyS2yJRPuSPcVTM28yMYv10vGkbbkTUArLTr7opOt2XnOvvLFht4 _Nvb9vCohWpzvdkWvuoIIoF4pNOn7zBjW4oqIq8dsNNz_Z2L.7UeETNYZfhX Fj514EDncWrHZOyA14O5b_l9WqPSoBBpsywfh0nS2V0w27.tI0nPGP..onTu LGh.WaBFc90iwLp0_9uMeVDPlYKvaGe_5sMFcam27SLyYXaVxLtTqONz1rny iiJHxELU7HUWjVJZwQlh3X4ccZ6V4wzn29yZO8kG5pY2oQl0zrzaXGq8_ZhE .Fd3dE9VbNui7Bo6AArwUD9N98d91t3IFkeZu4_3rfYcPNyXu4g0thOFMphN tyo7Iuf8xG7xH2PT.r0bSntjjhQzIhngPnb5gwd71W1NEOPRT6kkPCb3E_Wl 3iJ7xxVnFNd8y8vBzlf2Od9vEziWWkpvRhQn_Hlq_O.Z_cnVbtUoEpND8K7A 2lSyQZxT_FLcGM_CHxjNlSW7NFFtAAlHRaAv8XU8hGrrVvl1Ru2bi X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:49:13 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >On Fri, July 15, 2016 11:54 am, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions >wrote: >> Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google >> data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version >> etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, > >!!! > >> they could >> identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. > >Says who? This perhaps become to off-topic for this mailing list. The assumption roughly speaking is, that nowadays the interest of Google is money, not a pogrom or something similar. More likely than misuse of data regarding e.g. racism, nowadays is misuse e.g. regarding health insurance funds and this not especially regarding individuals, but regarding in what area of your home town most sportsman and in what area most smokers are living. In Germany mail order business already cared about areas were many people who are insolvent lived, before we had the Internet. So you perhaps were credible, but most of your neighbours perhaps were not, if so they didn't sell you products. Germany perhaps had the best data protection that time, but anyway statistics already were misused. >I don't do anything illegal, but I do know that all governments who >were able to collect information about individuals, did so. And what >these governments eventually did is well known as well (Stalin Russia, >Hitler Germany,... and the list goes on). > >The most depressing lesson of history is that people never learn >lessons of history ;-( > >Valeri > >> What >> they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group >> living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 17:57:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90D4B9AF45 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A345216EB for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 38so110990107iol.0 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:57:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d3t16aMgjtNbj3YjQBYDRQzdkmFolRsGuOUqQVZqES4=; b=0gyPCb55dnELfJYxvUZFGM+gZQwA072PaqBdhIEjJYy5OEV5PQ3GxnEi4yl4QblxPK KWtiXl5qXgvlzLrNWGmUTrLq+8Wrk1pevbsT0tdYd3od6jcK66NWZ+0ua3YkOT88UEOm eCAbOzCw0nBQBm2KbbuQiiEL0tacwhmRuexvvAaE4BczaMj2uBvw9tmc7JkGra4Mv8aS IUmvdpZ4Zrh9ugI3h9O51ppbP+hDIC3gM1Naq4j9eMvTJAaI3ADYdlzYJTiKzZ2tU9Jx 2Tr/qCyEy9gEJuAq+Y63XAEU0boomBxtu91LZP+c+q1hTLS2bvDGsXLj9apeKE6PjeY7 WuRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d3t16aMgjtNbj3YjQBYDRQzdkmFolRsGuOUqQVZqES4=; b=g22uxs6Ro75ILIB2ZW2vKwfO+OWhYUVvLFhewypqRdvFN01ba9dSYK/hU5MLpaT1At N5BO/ECMol7XM7vGArF4/wgl0ZAXSHo8T4N0L58/Row0dCV010o+YLaay8m2RkbLphvT 3A9tyPjbd69HC02IBP0FKmz88bd00K/5nncAblp4ea2McOEF45PLD0QNBskoSn2Yaa5k 0pNNYtwElT00tM6FfffEJ/wJ1TeCNHBthCKOBPi6MA65UhYloD5Gt8PW8JdGYzZ6XlSA f4pdmVs+FnjohmPtX8eOiT9NW/B8hsmsRBxqVYXrhXOTkcOcgRq5LnDBuh1BkVNFhF3M mMKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKqEu4jGAUIeB9LyWAwgN0DWN9wsd3Q8sAKT+2ed7ovKvVA81tJHCuNfuHfbm0D0A== X-Received: by 10.107.7.231 with SMTP id g100mr21851879ioi.64.1468605449769; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.4.3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id w12sm2514810iow.29.2016.07.15.10.57.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57892408.40807@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:57:28 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:57:30 -0000 On 07/15/2016 11:03 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, July 15, 2016 11:54 am, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google >> data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version >> etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, > !!! > >> they could >> identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. > Says who? > > > I don't do anything illegal, but I do know that all governments who were > able to collect information about individuals, did so. And what these > governments eventually did is well known as well (Stalin Russia, Hitler > Germany,... and the list goes on). > > The most depressing lesson of history is that people never learn lessons > of history ;-( > > Valeri > >> What >> they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group >> living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" So why don't the "good" people in government tell the "PEOPLE" who is behind this and put the guilty out of their misery? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 18:14:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F600B9953B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCA111A2 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id D5D0FCB8CB9; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <14079.128.135.52.6.1468606467.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Getting really off topic]: borderline OT fireox question From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Ralf Mardorf" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:14:29 -0000 On Fri, July 15, 2016 12:49 pm, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>On Fri, July 15, 2016 11:54 am, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions >>wrote: >>> Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google >>> data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version >>> etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, >> >>!!! >> >>> they could >>> identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. >> >>Says who? > > This perhaps become to off-topic for this mailing list. The assumption > roughly speaking is, that nowadays the interest of Google is money, not > a pogrom or something similar. True, but it also is known that largest and easiest money is that of the taxpayer (received through the government). And again, which is the best way of startup? Through getting unaccountable grant from one of unaccountable agencies. And how and why would you create excellent free services (mail, documents, file sharing,...)? Free for users, yes, but someone has to pay for these once the company is in it for money? (or it is in it for something else? what then would be that?) Doesn't take much effort to figure out who would pay for these free services, right? In the past you needed to recruit and pay big money to spies. These days you don't: just roll out free services and information will float to you: you only need huge storage, excellent analyzing computational facility, and you get much more and much cheaper actually. But you are right: we better don't get it started... > More likely than misuse of data > regarding e.g. racism, nowadays is misuse e.g. regarding health > insurance funds and this not especially regarding individuals, but > regarding in what area of your home town most sportsman and in what > area most smokers are living. In Germany mail order business already > cared about areas were many people who are insolvent lived, before we > had the Internet. So you perhaps were credible, but most of your > neighbours perhaps were not, if so they didn't sell you products. > Germany perhaps had the best data protection that time, but anyway > statistics already were misused. > >>I don't do anything illegal, but I do know that all governments who >>were able to collect information about individuals, did so. And what >>these governments eventually did is well known as well (Stalin Russia, >>Hitler Germany,... and the list goes on). >> >>The most depressing lesson of history is that people never learn >>lessons of history ;-( >> >>Valeri >> >>> What >>> they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group >>> living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 18:18:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531B4B996C4 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10A2B1469 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.137.229] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bO7gV-0004wg-RB; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:18:00 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u6FIHu5e002004 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:17:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u6FIHuBT002003; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:17:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:17:56 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Getting really off topic]: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160715181756.GA1984@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Valeri Galtsev , Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> <14079.128.135.52.6.1468606467.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <14079.128.135.52.6.1468606467.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.229 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:18:07 -0000 Please be so kind and discuss this off-list; thanks -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wer übersieht, dass wir uns den anderen weggenommen haben und sie uns wiederhaben wollen, kann von den Kämpfen der letzten Tage keinen verstehen. Und kann natürlich auch keinen dieser Kämpfe bestehen." Hermann Kant in jW 1.10.1989 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 18:28:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DFFB99A10 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B22421A2A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468607301; bh=g13kYR91d8gmxYS3N3GVHDK0GCCgtnnrDsPAO5I+0O8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=byN+nG0TT60YxjqMoQT8as6tQYQgbnIeH5nQvOuOlBY02n6HtBap35B2pDgRFkc2ob0FVA19XxYl+zU2ipK38yqdWDPDGO6tlcm629uYtmEvsAj6PcO8WYcA/QW9tz+ZrDN8+GgkM3DfDtxTfhhfHB4gjn2agvXz7Iv/R4jnVWVXIdHSZr8W38bHX8W4/D/2FzIZb4IsZHGTThS54xVDD4DDafXKeXI1HkzJqjGwTFDH/6c7cezYU/ws9dBPuL9NW69NyO/S/Z9aRmzDgeNb0cAM+oo+fJChrEV7GttaYXNChx59smF6YorYi7zkaxpVbc4O9L/xInoPLE4jvOKo0w== Received: from [212.82.98.58] by nm17.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 18:28:21 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.89] by tm11.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 18:28:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp126.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 18:28:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 213977.83344.bm@smtp126.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Eb_67XAVM1lEYwbTGP24KXdGIoLSjAkKFHuCb9ynn2JCWWi s_.fF1SFDf6IrQ1Pn2MS_FMBO8seTLTCVClJCxkWohOfAPebq68wbsy0vRD9 xM_Bwm.LNpee1l5bgx.9H2MC7dtS7.eHVxKfQyLC8ifuOWKACIa7QpApi5Cy uCCFwm7lRRRyFl89P78uVK5qsvdU6IZmlP0g8W5kyBRZfnIc5vBjczrdeorg kuDN.RIjEVz3LRHAyTML9IC9q9bDQ_66WKmEqZAfS8Id7Rt669.Gv5SvgoKI zN35KdBHcq9mEdIrD1OmtaSqGWVB8aaOoK_.4NCSnCclJdE20AKJl45bz4.c XJ8opufxhrHxCU8ZNVL70IHON0T39BLiQWYssTk9yyrn.hSjNr8QRAE2M467 owAKP6vY56AvUqLPJP3ugilNpLEKFzHwHgc7Cwu_6TgJuGnQblEhjhJ1v0r7 3AluYf9se_TIIJkL6bxdfj1gxuRcf4e87vant4cpKFY00J2HtPVirNPhR1dZ _8kZbVsMGHHBcrDxfRLqxA0sNcJNU4r3GJ7A144ndcFNLrokjrBtZZcESJRW y6M5n37rFrKWTRF5Sxnqk5.H5tUBh X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:28:20 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Getting really off topic]: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160715202820.66297ca1@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <14079.128.135.52.6.1468606467.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> <14079.128.135.52.6.1468606467.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:28:24 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:14:27 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >But you are right: we better don't get it started... Hi Valeri, Years back, off-topic became an issue for the Debian Linux user mailing list, so the off-topic list was created. There's no traffic on this list anymore. Feel free to resuscitate this list, I'm still subscribed. https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic Some very nice people are most likely still subscribed to this list and I'm sure they welcome FreeBSD users, especially since several users were banned from the Debian user list, regarding opinions about perhaps systemd and similar topics. Activists who never ever would use Google. But also liberal people who are no activist or against systemd, Google and other thingies. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 18:33:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E915B99C94 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2o.cmail.yandex.net (forward2o.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a72::287]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAB3F1DE8 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.28]) by forward2o.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id ABD3E20EA6; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:33:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A76661E0190; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:33:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Wjdw1Hv1gf-XX80Y3rA; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:33:34 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1468607614; bh=im+NfHkDu0FS48ZJO4DzVHF4Sjf69B8Zau9BW3WYRyY=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=I52HZtOcRyj1uW43Smrh238cGiLA4dYvD23ii69DR331hnpj2gmujlYevmxcr5FrZ xOQ/T5p5ATp+fVcMLf9r3GuBu9c/qr+zQpGZkYSI6urk83CiPmwyah20sXnKK4bnsV urp3p6STPh0uvCutQS+Yy/2xhprl8y9WH+vAs3T8= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1468607611.73845.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed From: Stari Karp To: Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:33:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5c70aabf-09b8-91d2-7de5-b59a15a99a65@bananmonarki.se> References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> <0ae6cb58-4815-6608-aecd-ab2f6aea5c5d@bananmonarki.se> <1468576397.7951.7.camel@yandex.com> <5c70aabf-09b8-91d2-7de5-b59a15a99a65@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:33:49 -0000 On Fri, 2016-07-15 at 16:06 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-07-15 11:53, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > You need to find these in the ports tree and upgrade them > > > > > > glib-2.0 >= 2.37.6 > > > > > > folks >= 0.9.5 > > > telepathy-glib >= 0.17.5 > > > libebook-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.13.90 > > > geocode-glib-1.0 >= 3.15.3 > > > > > My versions: > > > > folks 0.11.1 > > telepathy-glib 0.24.1 > > libe-book is version 0.1.2_4. It is version which we have in ports > > geocode-glib 3.18.8_3 > > glib 2.46.2_2 > > libedataserver and libedataserverui: I don't know what part of > > ports > > are > Those two is provided by databases/evolution-data-server > > > > But the problem is also my pkg 1.8.7 version which core dump if I > > run > > pkg upgrade -f. > Can't help you with that. databases/evolution-data-server is version 3.18.5.1. Looks everything is installed on the last version but Synth has the problem still. I did install gnome-contacts with "make install" without problem but not Synth. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 19:11:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEFCB9A93E for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32D9B1A15 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B366F3CE3A; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:11:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6FJB5Kk003569; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:11:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:11:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Getting really off topic]: borderline OT fireox question Message-Id: <20160715211105.2b011958.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160715202820.66297ca1@archlinux.localdomain> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> <14079.128.135.52.6.1468606467.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160715202820.66297ca1@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:11:16 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:28:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:14:27 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >But you are right: we better don't get it started... > > Hi Valeri, > > Years back, off-topic became an issue for the Debian Linux user mailing > list, so the off-topic list was created. There's no traffic on this list > anymore. There is also a FreeBSD mailing list that would probably be a good place for this kind of discussion: freebsd-chat@ according to the http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ summary. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 20:46:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F4B9989D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3A72199B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6FKkbbZ005367; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:46:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: building ports with Synth and one failed To: Stari Karp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1468104256.57936.12.camel@yandex.com> <6a82104e-ed58-ce58-0dd7-42ce500ca900@bananmonarki.se> <1468142820.19889.2.camel@yandex.com> <1468360021.24167.1.camel@yandex.com> <0ae6cb58-4815-6608-aecd-ab2f6aea5c5d@bananmonarki.se> <1468576397.7951.7.camel@yandex.com> <5c70aabf-09b8-91d2-7de5-b59a15a99a65@bananmonarki.se> <1468607611.73845.2.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:46:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1468607611.73845.2.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:46:44 -0000 On 2016-07-15 20:33, Stari Karp wrote: >>> My versions: >>> >>> folks 0.11.1 >>> telepathy-glib 0.24.1 >>> libe-book is version 0.1.2_4. It is version which we have in ports >>> geocode-glib 3.18.8_3 >>> glib 2.46.2_2 >>> libedataserver and libedataserverui: I don't know what part of >>> ports >>> are >> Those two is provided by databases/evolution-data-server >>> But the problem is also my pkg 1.8.7 version which core dump if I >>> run >>> pkg upgrade -f. >> Can't help you with that. > databases/evolution-data-server is version 3.18.5.1. Looks everything > is installed on the last version but Synth has the problem still. I did > install gnome-contacts with "make install" without problem but not > Synth. > > Thank you. > Then I guess your package db is broken in some way. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 22:37:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2E7B9AEE5 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22e.google.com (mail-vk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06A261A02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id w127so115375783vkh.2 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jl8WHzWw64PjlkFNsxvQCNOUMrvwC/d1+gcLF9UrTSU=; b=SeeVsTKYk6IIS/5q/HWD8WiKeMlL44vTAfFjsf3Kx4TsPoZdM+n1+YEZaIM33uT7YB eCIZ9x5f/9Gk7u9J/wXptG5heblq/Pz+VUA8V1vO/atpLdMHB3p6HPLZp4Y3g+AiIXEZ k/U552Tweg64zeIA4YcyrDvw3Fi+ZS6hoIPoqMxhyIBPD9yaHeFCosyodyFvAEs3Od7R qgJouta4b9XlOaEzUMCqPxPcZ0RcYKJ6HbqERkp9/ski4GZNN2gHaEbnFPBPphrbCBoe VB1GS4zvJ5AUBC7E8MXCHDZAAd1E5WkTCSXT6h0PHkfgvjg4ax3fFsFTCTxX6m0cANsC +kwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=jl8WHzWw64PjlkFNsxvQCNOUMrvwC/d1+gcLF9UrTSU=; b=fnGDpzP/IglZkqQIi+NVxr62Pw/yq26hzE+qA2vI8tpwQ17jjGuWpgcsmjmElMiCp0 iFRu8W6WZXMaHQu6HLZY5ZrToK35sJ1ALuWN+WvYqIwSHi3lBATImYrgiyixm0PFwUkT 6Mw76ccQu3kpYR3R2rKKmIJd0msX6Cq9G5brsWCaZxv1BBTV/R9TPUI5fUb+Canq+NHt pWX6421beETkBXWXW8aHXOixLF5hDD3evAoRWj4VVZTWwpj4XdQRvvrSM2uBEo88f2AQ GqsaRG42W2RCpmo1HXg+LV3q4HInGk0kKPWyMQ9HimRNTKlsKWVD/HBievKcJLuGy3Ue nPBw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJqQW+qtzV1irSZTSVZrW9TwSA4laleUWFujf5Ornelij0QAhul4qVfbMHhIa2R124wn7/9/nMaPdn6Ww== X-Received: by 10.159.34.235 with SMTP id 98mr11368448uan.15.1468622258962; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.68.1 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160712004959.c8fa53c1.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Aleksandr Miroslav Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recording Internet radio? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:37:40 -0000 On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Jonesy via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> Is there something I can install from ports on a server to record > Internet > >> radio? > > maybe mplayer/mencoder or rtmpdump could be used. > > Also, streamripper > As it turns out, streamripper is even better than mplayer. The command line switches are very good and pretty much do what I want. With mplayer I needed a script, streamripper allows me record with a single command. More importantly, mplayer recorded to wav, which made for large files. My 4 hour recording was several Gigabytes before I used lame to convert to MP3. streamripper records directly to AAC. The recording is 60MiB in size. Thanks again for suggesting it. 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Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:21:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:21:38 -0000 On 2016-07-13 21:55, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of > Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests > completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. I use > TOR when surfing & followed the advice of a thread a few weeks ago > about a FF setting to prevent those suggestions. I also have cron > delete cookies & other cruft from the .mozilla directory nightly. How > do they still have me ? TIA & have a good one. > Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 08:54:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB290B99CC3 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F61212D0 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468659254; bh=L5hVAamcRH9y6h3bTnV/8q5cakRcJndWELd8kA+f6Q0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=T2ZR2eMJmNIyQoVVP+puWuRIJZ+maQ9T8jluDxos4aHadHp+Xlt1ZOiVrmalH4I0btlsSRHGX6Zp9JIk3R2H034KIIxmTB58cJIVQ4QDlpY4xDLcxVMk3bBsZf4z7Vei7Zk30VkfuV0KXJsfW/L5Y/M2uNZahGwXelEFSEiZzWwwvhTy7Shy76/OcjgLmBR+KIIDDXtcysiIEIBeuudGVq3kKcCM/tbckvfAhIwxw3SyDpSYZuSERL+mqOnp/E85+WgWYTqROb2rNhOosIzgCGuzyG2oxqUfL0z/vMkkT53hSgDQ4JZmeTLuL6C9ywRhxw+sr4/+ZlXif8aqYaixug== Received: from [212.82.98.124] by nm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 08:54:14 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.91] by tm17.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 08:54:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp128.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 08:54:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 39964.65052.bm@smtp128.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: my2TOw8VM1kqLEackm5G1xfcvzzfMnZ7qj1iJyC4t0DFK.q quu72DKK_cHllzENqwZnP6EbFXX6ugbvzFDbNdH_CR8QGT0JQV0JvyAExhc3 TDGv7Kmr8mPhB0NuVFn4XYboTU6dPfBDKhZzrmNT9A_ueG.9gRZFzX8bFr7f uP2NM0M.y2bwkmF8J1P9cB2ysNy5xthGoZryhE8oPI5tE_3LloWdqBy8S7ce fElUEIy._6R0_yPjFT76ldMCcFDPmoHRSEmtYOdz66FaaIm5iAfrfjdrxDCe sz5jphh9KHO_HMvv_2LJ47gtWd46JzJ_3rlEEAP0BX30LoE3UIKyIcKVhVP3 Ypm7mmFfgwzEnEegEbPW5unZhCKelfExELvEkx6s45hwXuWJyvRVCC_64nfh LL96hzTEkiGy4v1CXhXeyumEfcKkZSFHd5oxWRA_AZcbpwKHB3DL7ZiKRH1J gulzMK83EvT3q8BZMmJ1PQPNgKtIWgQZhSwbD31v7HFZH6ceHv7JH3lnazcO XrYsVAboQpNzBgjudctW5ZiaU9YqTnJuAdTx6F3szyT6a X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:54:14 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160716105414.6382a6d3@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:54:23 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:21:31 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >On 2016-07-13 21:55, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of >> Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests >> completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. I >> use TOR when surfing & followed the advice of a thread a few weeks >> ago about a FF setting to prevent those suggestions. I also have >> cron delete cookies & other cruft from the .mozilla directory >> nightly. How do they still have me ? TIA & have a good one. >> >Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. A non-OT hint: FWIW IceCat provides an experimetal, optional option trying to block non-free JavaScrip. Free JavaScript still remains JavaScript, this is another issue, but at least it's a step to more freedom, https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/IceCat/GNU_LibreJS . "The program LibreJS detects nonfree, nontrivial JavaScript in pages you visit, and blocks it." - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html Regards, Ralf -- OT: Not verified by myself, but perhaps worth reading it: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet_eu_loc_2016/?bTrXNab&v=79141&cl=10375050907&_checksum=88dc554cfadfbf6f8a2f30c5508a726a2df5ecd88cfcdd4686e012174c9a97a7 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 10:15:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AACB9A5FA for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.127]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EAD9173D for ; 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Sat, 16 Jul 2016 05:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.108] ([110.64.91.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x66sm3850293pfi.84.2016.07.16.05.56.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Jul 2016 05:56:05 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org From: Yubin Ruan Subject: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:56:01 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 12:56:06 -0000 Hi, I just tried FreeBSD-10.3 stable and get stuck when trying to use the Mate desktop environment. I use Slim as the login manager. But when I try to login, with correct username and passwd, Slim tell me that "Failed to execute login command" (Any idea why would that happen?) So I try to switch back to the console use "Alt-F1...Alt-F8", which is suggested by the doc. But that doesn't work. Why ? How can I switch back to the console to tune the system? Regards, Ruan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 13:38:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6437B9AEBF for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwr@core.cwross.com) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFD7D1E92 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwr@core.cwross.com) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE920475; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web1 ([10.202.2.211]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:38:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cwross.com; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=rKupwfCU5PPiGgBKrKCwyvjSsOw=; b=te5Yea E4iLmWkr5qyTM7nmYrHdTyjD6xVGaqNdAE9isEGWhwgV/dWSkjL7FZI6xXO/+Lsf 264ugXFeIyTNxTrCl5SfDAAC594EBYu2PVlJ2m0pkIxDDa41VG3dyvnH9O5krQUB ZRkyxNNpO8TS14puyNvhftbxfBDzFURJhkYJw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=rKupwfCU5PPiGgB KrKCwyvjSsOw=; b=tEswqP4Bv84HN8VaG5vxFUy71V8OsgoVE8FbbwrIZhPda3L VwXEIoHaJrfSc92Qb3HcW0giRxOmSoVqJmkZbyL4qpgxhai1mHEbSE2ddp7fhIBC eOjmH/8YeshhP77MYzeHPFe4GqQ7Ybow7oKhOSQiwo3sZcjRyaOpCVHF+RtQ= Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 44E506A555; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1468676333.2960982.668038105.56EC9C1C@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: TK9ap3dvPYIw7VDXyZNdtreCRwClafRJj9H65+YvEP6s 1468676333 From: "Charles W. Ross" To: Yubin Ruan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-bf4e2c8f In-Reply-To: <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> References: <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:38:53 -0400 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:38:55 -0000 On Sat, Jul 16, 2016, at 08:56, Yubin Ruan wrote: > Hi, > I just tried FreeBSD-10.3 stable and get stuck when trying to use the > Mate desktop environment. I use Slim as the login manager. But when I > try to login, with correct username and passwd, Slim tell me that > "Failed to execute login command" > (Any idea why would that happen?) This error message means that whatever you have in your .xinitrc file is wrong. For example, to start the the OpenBox window manager, you would include 'exec openbox-session' in your .xinitrc. This varies based on the window manager you want to use. > So I try to switch back to the console use "Alt-F1...Alt-F8", which is > suggested by the doc. But that doesn't work. Why ? The correct key combination to get back to a console is "CTRL + ALT + F1" (through F8), not just ALT by itself. > > How can I switch back to the console to tune the system? > > Regards, > Ruan Hope this helps, Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 13:59:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71328B9B373; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from slim.berklix.org (slim.berklix.org [94.185.90.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EB5B1A4C; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FE9D3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.254.157.63]) (authenticated bits=128) by slim.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u6GDvZeB050290; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:57:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id u6GDwmuU033182; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:58:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u6GDwTi1040789; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:58:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Yubin Ruan cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.eu BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.eu/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:56:01 +0800." <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:58:29 +0200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:00 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Yubin Ruan > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:56:01 +0800 Yubin Ruan wrote: > Hi, > I just tried FreeBSD-10.3 stable and get stuck when trying to use the > Mate desktop environment. I use Slim as the login manager. But when I > try to login, with correct username and passwd, Slim tell me that > "Failed to execute login command" > (Any idea why would that happen?) > So I try to switch back to the console use "Alt-F1...Alt-F8", which is > suggested by the doc. But that doesn't work. Why ? > > How can I switch back to the console to tune the system? (Ive never heard of Slim, but) general procedure: >From another net connected host: rlogin / telnet / ssh yourhost cd /var/log ; ls -ltr ls -l xdm.log messages Xorg.0.log + whatever logfile might be appropriate for your Slim ps -laxww kill some processes, watch if they restart vi /etc/ttys change eg ttyv1 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure to ttyv1 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure maybe you are using ttyv0 for xdm (I use ttyv1 to leave 0 for errors) kill -HUP 1 sometimes screen still wont come back, if desperate then reboot PS I dropped cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org as this has nothing to do with that CPU, & freebsd.org list rules say dont cross post more than 2 lists. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich http://berklix.eu/jhs/ Mail plain text, No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, MS.doc. Prefix old lines '> ' Reply below old, like play script. Break lines by 80. http://berklix.eu/brexit/#stolen_votes From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 14:11:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C68B9B6BF; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 14:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokhi64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50AA71EC3; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 14:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokhi64@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id f65so55818134wmi.0; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kP7ujQJonEYpxGz5hLO+jRIn4nf+mbMyiGDIxwNwkfA=; b=x01Ljohn9oG3BCl2SSN0M9f3HQNLBGeFNDMTJPvzi87ZRKz5ukbhIWN6pAOHmmfBzp 9kFjwtxZVFrFbeYvJqFo1hxnneuzd9YPLJPHt0kXKSxohx6s5sk8J7rQWbT1+vP5BHq+ bs4OOFYBLumvgn7Hv+SuvlJQV+cio09t7C4q78NQ/PbGZmeE3U11DJjPn9lLzbc/z02h pP6IcYCh17dgmiASdx31XkD9H6+8MA6rczFybqpik/liW0mvKXCLgi2/a2AdFo6Cns+p LjQOW/Hj7N2Ncx2kRE8SvidHxDewKr1qSTqLfFqK6D41/LzR/vR9HmckmRLdGwHW5Dik gukA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kP7ujQJonEYpxGz5hLO+jRIn4nf+mbMyiGDIxwNwkfA=; b=hgK2QUYwIbdt89Ot9y70uI3hCLblt1nWjWZo/E2N/8Mc8rpM7bkEpUVcishFQvAoMi nAszoFIhInFdG9bI7PLn38zLwJ2Zb6HD1/G6tLCQ8DhbUcCv+vUTsPzbGy96AvDITdra J6GsCeqAibS3U6sLE4YqLkkB9pkldG8xOauIwSMmoInAy9JPJW28nNFSTCy8HRBFwRJe YVYnc2SqOCUvPk9h78LwViyGQpPlK7mV1n25ouDH5QJFevXYH/f1kOdRIk+pMgt8ibeQ DNyyTm4kDLfCCkXaT4Mn5x26DY2hB98HJK+D24lBUqGWN+uMLQucDvEtE7GdcN873VrI fnJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJSeTeZFBJUmbsdii+i4EaHzkxRamS4Lfc+GnJAckYYznFRpmZyz9UnqyqTsSQfhK1r1ewl+P5W1wA7zw== X-Received: by 10.28.0.203 with SMTP id 194mr22876578wma.29.1468678267510; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 07:11:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.70.193 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 07:11:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> From: mokhi Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:41:06 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: Yubin Ruan , freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 14:11:09 -0000 I am using FreeBSD10.3 + Slim + MATE on my laptop without such problems. Maybe you forgot about creating .xinitrc ? BTW, you can reboot to single user mode and delete slim from startups (rc.conf) and start solving problem then (creating .xinitrc if not created it and so on) Best regards, Mokhi. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 15:32:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78598B9B99C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 452371A77 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6GFW4uY022792 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:32:05 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <64069.128.135.52.6.1468590832.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:37:33 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64069.128.135.52.6.1468590832.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:32:12 -0000 On 07/15/16 09:00, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, July 15, 2016 8:15 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Wouldn't TOR defeat the geo+IP mapping ? > Yes, it does. Tor itself does not pass information to them it can get from > your machine locally. The only information that can be collected is about > exit point IP. > >> Indeed, since I started using >> TOR, whenever I visit Google, > But when you are using tor (or tor browser), _YOU_ with your habits of > doing things can defeat significant portion of privacy protection tor > gives you. One of the things to avoid here: don't use google for searches. > On tor project website there is short writeup. But that is really > instructive, it gives a bunch of simple rules and good practices. The link > also is on the first page when you start tor browser. Here it is: > > https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warning > > Valeri > >> I have to do a captcha-style click through >> to get my search results back .... > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > Funny, when I clicked on the link above, I got an error page that said the webpage was incorrectly configured & firefox refused to connect to it, even after I added an exception for it .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 15:36:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2167EB9BA49 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E08931C0B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 997562762D; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:36:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6GFaDdg002045; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:36:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:36:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-Id: <20160716173613.956c8469.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:36:25 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:21:31 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2016-07-13 21:55, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > > I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of > > Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests > > completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. I use > > TOR when surfing & followed the advice of a thread a few weeks ago > > about a FF setting to prevent those suggestions. I also have cron > > delete cookies & other cruft from the .mozilla directory nightly. How > > do they still have me ? TIA & have a good one. > > > Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. Which renders 99% of "modern" web pages totally unusable (as in "stop using that web page")... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 15:37:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2732FB9BAD9 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E83571CE3 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6GFbKUp024534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:37:21 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:42:50 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:37:23 -0000 On 07/15/16 12:09, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, July 15, 2016 11:54 am, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google >> data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version >> etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, > !!! > >> they could >> identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. > Says who? > > > I don't do anything illegal, but I do know that all governments who were > able to collect information about individuals, did so. And what these > governments eventually did is well known as well (Stalin Russia, Hitler > Germany,... and the list goes on). > > The most depressing lesson of history is that people never learn lessons > of history ;-( > > Valeri Preach it *LOUD*, brother !!!! > >> What >> they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group >> living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 15:43:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2578DB9BD13 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6FF61301 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6GFh4YV026364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:43:05 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <65db19f7-b22b-07c0-cf82-459b8006c7fd@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:48:34 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:43:07 -0000 On 07/16/16 03:27, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2016-07-13 21:55, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of >> Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests >> completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. I >> use TOR when surfing & followed the advice of a thread a few weeks >> ago about a FF setting to prevent those suggestions. I also have cron >> delete cookies & other cruft from the .mozilla directory nightly. How >> do they still have me ? TIA & have a good one. >> > Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yeah, but a maddening number of sites don't function at all w/o it :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 16:08:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635BFB9B328 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.127]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB9261ECA for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468685287; bh=S707b1uEEHa0TsNUQYeiWhGZpFOvB60/VDbDhDIPB14=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=Yhm4Hi1obidKwqI8cFTOqLHMzEOHywRXfoWSpUfBpx/mT74abW3AFhXTMYe2a9lNcxLJ7vBSnidXRFEHCyDhh6aIlj19ejML/fa3yLepXy8H5eoGwm1RHChEHSUUoGmUszMais7V8xBxNHk8AY3lAlvgQV0WEJLYSJ8J1VjANFSNe/geMQoMSsqqzFaLmw5wylNH+u6qd6yth/piiNWvjUNdiwf+OBWV6ipgatONm/vgyKAfkUkIJ28w0MyUaIUXghm/EwoIX93dZ7cr1IurmQdqTi+mDSGvdIAC5RtK7yvv34E01Y+9z9DxeEqrVjBlhlRsN7+KrnPbw9l3YiaJkw== Received: from [212.82.98.124] by nm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 16:08:07 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.101] by tm17.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 16:08:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 16:08:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 436561.48139.bm@smtp138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PvLf_S8VM1l4NB4aJxge5NH_EZFXdhg3vpaW0qUEF0JB.bV q7wb5SV8jtsUWqE6xDgAZnzQsAdBttvfj.aSm5v.HU28dsyyGTN7rbLDuons 8BjmfuFcxxgVy3JFKwJwj9QXYKF2Eqy02eRQTQbc60amFWq_1qUCivQVg1R1 idJKF.izD3CItvFRjptc8lKGCLds4ywlOpLhpC0rIdoLQ07_QsBdGJJj1Xq6 U.o3hMfjq.L.9fqNqVqa3OBLz3vJ74LamTkcZsMp8z3T25ExdYf09tKH0S15 nwq2q9lcNN7fG85nHw7dAPhgIFcRiqpSug54P_kuW23nSL0rHyhUNCmLwteZ vytH8IkZgopESg7GyFE_eYm6j_VMA4.7iy2SoWbKUK49_LJcO67PCHsADjbX FJOqTAvm1ANVEO3S8rfrHDYAzOf.RRSVvHV_27_kGDwUFLmRv077oQrqcH1P V7ribnizKRz_KRiRMlBMQT2qbFQ9NHgi9gWwJxmOivKdrWhIVXOTsXpKk0Ib dQvlA1NL.7q6NkCc2fjcJCoyjbpUv84o40E39vBDCbKGcJ70DRqGJz5ihL7U DGSmBkj8ICJ9n5u7RNawF1.1xSQ4- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:08:07 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160716180807.677321a2@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20160716173613.956c8469.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> <20160716173613.956c8469.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:08:11 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:36:13 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. > >Which renders 99% of "modern" web pages totally unusable >(as in "stop using that web page")... Perhaps running two instances of FF, with different profiles helps. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ firefox --help|grep -i profile -P Start with . --profile Start with profile at . --ProfileManager Start with ProfileManager. firefox -P one_per_cent firefox -P hundred_per_cent :D Joking apart, as already pointed out, click the search icon and unchecks "Provide search suggestions", if you want to use the Google search, or add Startpage and make it the default. Startpage provides quasi the same hits as Google does, since it's based on Google, but it provides better privacy. Note, by default Startpage has got family filters enabled and this filter sometimes misvalues a search term. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 16:13:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2D6B9B4B5 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B8F136B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5BA0BCB8CBD; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 69.209.225.239 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <64833.69.209.225.239.1468685631.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <64069.128.135.52.6.1468590832.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:13:58 -0000 On Sat, July 16, 2016 10:30 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 07/15/16 09:00, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Fri, July 15, 2016 8:15 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> Wouldn't TOR defeat the geo+IP mapping ? >>> Indeed, since I started using >>> TOR, whenever I visit Google, >> But when you are using tor (or tor browser), _YOU_ with your habits of >> doing things can defeat significant portion of privacy protection tor >> gives you. One of the things to avoid here: don't use google for >> searches. >> On tor project website there is short writeup. But that is really >> instructive, it gives a bunch of simple rules and good practices. The >> link >> also is on the first page when you start tor browser. Here it is: >> >> https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warning >> >> Valeri >> > > Funny, when I clicked on the link above, I got an error page that said > the webpage was incorrectly configured & firefox refused to connect to > it, even after I added an exception for it .... > It opens for me (just tried again in safari and firefox on macintosh at home - the same happens at my job place). Even though I usually post something by copying and pasting from the location bar after I open that page myself, I felt obliged to test again after I learned it didn't work for you. I can imagine one of two things: 1. You have [much] tighter security/privacy settings of your browser that I do 2. Your network provider hates tor project and tor network (which defeat their spying which URLs you are visiting). Some of providers do, the very moment my provider does it, they loose me as a customer (I would say forever: I really do have long memory for those who attempted nasty things against me...). Please, tell us what was it, I for one am curious. Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 17:34:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBD6B9A83E for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm21-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm21-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F08B81716 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468690448; bh=DSOIqWr2lp15fL9q19ML1Ntn1zv8aZiXoB0Azb7JvXg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=GjTLYR+QrSi01ktgZZ5GUQDo+GiGJ/JQQKGOP/J9KJb9wwLoXqwkxOf8dIiX7S8KIz9a1Qgfrgd+NytlH9Pjfuxe2Fn3LPSQnaa63vtKqsPFeFIDe+vtV7X2GshI4/Mjgj/QUTZOBpQMpzKBcwZZEu9JOLleLiV04aEF3aZcydNnP/PgTIxorNGyRZvQfMSHXDtf5eCMNgp5cfnEy5Rf58PckVZe8zfrebt3trpwr6gv0KMHvxeyBe2YUQeFAx9c2ZmLl/BnQ/qVjRVCyUc/sQHL2ULViNQCsEsZMMO30EMBh/MekEQrw86wkf6Km0+bIpEjESEQd5bAVOASNfTg4Q== Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm21.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 17:34:08 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.95] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 17:34:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp132.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2016 17:34:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 215182.44833.bm@smtp132.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6XMP5uoVM1k5XDaJuqIFtfuzoFvKp5L9p.Z8oaf_yrndZ3M xmnnv41qNSIhE8siSvkwf55Q8Khabrz1BydQeljxnvzLrdBxgkU3A9E1l4fi nZE4yVemmIDkewMbNqz0SAH4g2Xm4LSrlyZ._HD9UE9yBvNvMsoDWxYkGvZY uoyIYyc8vG5KkZ7Fwr7J6_qX52BzRKgr1D7qjb8rqgc_xiCZENlKgL0LdZvl T.Pzl6YnVWSkxOhwkC7_IBZ7Ujn.ihHnJdLFYkFs1IcfkXMOTx_d23JS1dag GJuCi161ZXgVcOUe0.Dtg0jxVcCE2ClGD0qhqQ5nibFQE..aI34kgDRGNG4M BMlxulX3TVKDUoq_S62s1Z7GA2YXTyIqxYx193qp8G2GwJX9U6b8hn.R1GIR 7YXuZzOV_E.8q585VLMhUW3DXJmA9z7clHNIpN9DlRIsJE6NokJfZNLX.P4M IE1QoMldMgaeov7HBFtnXJQG.NZPqHvjmTcsHJavpQpMwobcspUj1D1AVUKq JnMEzleZ5lNvyqYM8QjOrAr7ZIXvZSBVqsMkUsPui1BUOj.e1hRWTyiOB_vs BO3JJqBZ9I0.lIZfWGQG64HnIRgk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:34:08 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160716193408.5a6b3c83@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <64833.69.209.225.239.1468685631.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <64069.128.135.52.6.1468590832.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <64833.69.209.225.239.1468685631.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:34:17 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:13:51 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >On Sat, July 16, 2016 10:30 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 07/15/16 09:00, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warnin >> >> Funny, when I clicked on the link above, I got an error page that >> said the webpage was incorrectly configured & firefox refused to >> connect to it, even after I added an exception for it .... >> > >It opens for me (just tried again in safari and firefox on macintosh at >home - the same happens at my job place). William, consider to start Firefox in safe mode firefox --safe-mode since on a Linux PC the link works with at least firefox 47.0.1 all Google safe browsing URLs removed, Ghostery enabled, no other add-on enabled firefox 47.0.1 a test profile with defaults, IOW Edit > Pref > Security all that warn and block crap enabled, no URLs removed in about:config, no Add-on icecat 38.8.0 with Block execution of non-free JavaScript disabled icecat 38.8.0 with Block execution of non-free JavaScript enabled, then IceCat complains, but the link works anyway palemoon 26.3.3 qupzilla 2.0.1 chrome 51.0.2704.106 chromium 51.0.2704.106 opera 38.0.2220.41 vivaldi 1.2.490.43 xombrero 1.6.4 tor-browser-en 6.0.2 Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 21:00:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B279B9BD67; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 21:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22b.google.com (mail-qk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBD551630; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id p74so129302040qka.0; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=FljCfj/z5e8pTt6QWLC8BlF+Q0Dokhv85csJ1pu342I=; b=rB7BnK/It35wlsLsv5xZrLHlSxSVMZoiQ2j0Obau+hMFZKOSQdkbiW0RpeW7G/ItZN WN8UTpg6OkRdHNruIL1PS9mS5Lv7iZ5ZreKHKgkyKV8hAXpUPaFiGpDJj7GyZKKLzTgh M+0uNwXZeaovpzy2ax3OoPEqbIHp70HzDmF4j4vCb5qcsS4g8dy2ye/QzsDqgxo5IGfB lc5vwCsBYoSyTEanfD+SzgEp4N9H4LekClPqGWeVJNak0xQp3o5k3uRHgP5TngaIxGHN SWytrgQzrmya0grDhC3ncRNhKqFzNr8Fh3phaayZKRohzINaBFXwbF7OwJJ28C9Cgtwg 0G2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=FljCfj/z5e8pTt6QWLC8BlF+Q0Dokhv85csJ1pu342I=; b=Xtu3VClTMnHnyVCx+7IMu6teAJTdD/6shPz3iAQiqH+hpi3iwDxo28JtnPUJ6kleDk f3gXHG9A2EJ0LJo/GQHvRtZkUAAGO9ePHE83TPnJyk+sYEm9QfAlujb01PpC7gTMm7yE M0xvyBV6hmr16JiJuApBiJn7yuJTaZf0S9w6bcYL8y2+M/g4ZpzoyGlLxIJ5UBlTCGS9 RzDJItA7GgOWtlc4hMhUTbRD3RDDMfNkehAmLi20Mat0rwZ9QC29UMVJrujvtnAFu+fC 1z0eG/kPk3wK2pmgcl0Qq5oCOF4uCmofw208V1mAVIvZNVsk9+sA8WEc0b5Ej5onDh/Z eUHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKMOfLHbRKqOhfB/aBSxkD+AVkiEcNH35zRiGxUVUrFHF8k5//s8dm1p50+jle65xv3fQDOZpAzF5OIOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.170.20 with SMTP id t20mr35657149qke.162.1468702799089; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.237.48.198 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.237.48.198 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> References: <578A2EE1.8010108@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:59:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment From: Freddie Cash To: Yubin Ruan Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 21:00:00 -0000 On Jul 16, 2016 5:56 AM, "Yubin Ruan" wrote: > > Hi, > I just tried FreeBSD-10.3 stable and get stuck when trying to use the Mate desktop environment. I use Slim as the login manager. But when I try to login, with correct username and passwd, Slim tell me that > "Failed to execute login command" > (Any idea why would that happen?) > So I try to switch back to the console use "Alt-F1...Alt-F8", which is suggested by the doc. But that doesn't work. Why ? Try CTRL+ALT+F1 through F8. When are the console, you use Alt+F1 through F8, but need to add the CTRL over X11 starts. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 22:06:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D91AB9BD79 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x242.google.com (mail-vk0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 607AB17A8 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id x130so5532213vkc.2 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:06:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=F7fePsCq5hhivXi0tPzMDGtvx84w/gGM21TQu7/nVKo=; b=UO3Ix/GjiAFse6NvFneUhy9vxjAFkQeHv+feHBD5GYqs5M1uItq0Nk8bGCuqe/nHSg cH+wdZbKM9eiXQbuxltlYunSa3vwMydIz/qs5VsECW2uco1gGMfARqQYA8t9U8+oka8I 4KJxb1hkro/BPdyQ60ui/Lp7/MQ6vMp454/g4jH23D6uZne9MByubFC6bu0jVklgxoaE oaewkt5RpHj8oOdLAUUZo0UD761fMZUeCKRfLGxtQMmSagXJTOxZwTe4sArCTTT7NPUA pdg8PZeI0CSEuOiUc3gWWCpBgMSoM3qe8+dYe844woftV/sMUiMq5aOVhdXIJcybaAHI ktLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=F7fePsCq5hhivXi0tPzMDGtvx84w/gGM21TQu7/nVKo=; b=NBURtdL4nxF7ad2k7SSoYU1aeSsWUJkPeg1Tpo67/HI6KIDbKNOrET3whMbQlui8dy bEl6hCkmLsnVByD2wnHFNke0L6lxExFnE2hECEj3cg7KcX0aMColzb53EOC3dmheJLhd dwrJuaqplTB+nS7f9kShWBaH8C4/ZeZcJAA+E7/Vj03yx0VgoA1L3/Zf1HhV9B6SY6HR oj1YoDPV7XAqpsUAt+G8azpZeEQwOV7nZnuMlmCNF6n3QmjA/33/xEoXrOOhwezs53VQ Dj/kmO2UJ93mYm1tj15Qlwd20WxHbGRjlbTBev5Ev26rOi+0t15cchunMCQmqgRi7smZ ny+w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI18LAjJO1Gi02iyjWiAXeh3u2OFDCGKxOlL92o/ZBZDclcI7pioOaSdlOAzkxKiXpVJYwHEZwA0jgHog== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.159.39.36 with SMTP id a33mr14263576uaa.33.1468706767100; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.44.84 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.44.84 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: High CPU temperature and high fans level From: David Demelier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:06:08 -0000 Hello, I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and fans run high (not able to get rpms). On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in console. Do you have any clue? Regards David. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 22:25:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADDAB9B182 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 117F41EDC for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D708A3CDDB; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:25:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6GMP8CR002117; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:25:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:25:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Demelier Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level Message-Id: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:25:18 -0000 On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, > > I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised > to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. > > No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and > fans run high (not able to get rpms). > > On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. > > Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in > console. > > Do you have any clue? Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I could tell that it was having the change I expected, but I still was only able to see through that top slice of the screen. I'm not exactly super-familiar with the install. For what it's worth, the DragonFly installer seemed to be working fine, but then I didn't follow it through because HAMMER needs a 50GB space, etc. Nick G. On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 02:06:21PM +0200, Juan Ramón Molina Menor wrote: > >I'm trying to install FreeBSD 10.3 on a Thinkpad T430s, and in two different boot images I'm seeing a problem where when the installer starts, I can only see the ncurses (?) framebuffer in a small portion at the top of my screen. I've tried using safe mode, to no avail. Additionally, the screen doesn't refresh; it leaves this information on the screen: > > > >EFI framebuffer information: > > > >addr, size 0x0, 0x0 > > > >dimensions 640x480 > > > >stride 640 > > > >masks 0x00ff0000 0x0000ff00 0x0000000ff 0xff000000 > > > > > >I can actually use the menus, the system is responsive. However, I can only see the small portion at the top, which makes it impossible to actually perform the installation. > > Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried playing with the GOP commands in > the loader prompt?: > > gop [list | get | set ] > > Hope it helps, > Juan > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 23:36:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B5AB9BE80 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ablacktshirt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com (mail-pa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49E9F19ED for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ablacktshirt@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id dx3so49798301pab.2 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=So0xerbl8PB5fDom0YDYKY9xNS4tJU+9ST093zJZnwo=; b=CCbUhWdnRGgeaQe86ry0Sys9Xkbx/fxR19gj2QNiwD+y5Z//4Q4KFLn0g5Is/xrIw0 A3Imzz+Lj6ueXJjBt9BbTcqGeQ9Y3C+hewuH0IX9twqIrd46ihI9vj1vh6s17U2K911m rtX7mv7h1W1bcm6l6K8/RrPdwRgoqwQesCCtl0geYFNJrCECtppbwh1AYzoPvj0yjifx M18hAFaRrko2IjeVC9PZN72aT04gTlv2Y6eEdYwfuEPwotP7yTCGvUtBCjmqYbDRrqpV eHjPShq7mZw+Rvk2lsx+/dptENPP8NrN0FnLVwqFb+waAok92M+r54EwR5nWEl9TbA30 jdEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=So0xerbl8PB5fDom0YDYKY9xNS4tJU+9ST093zJZnwo=; b=NjbNngkqVGwKWNo4bJfQWhLNMSxIkxy/KMy8PDboDMPEJhcjUF/QpP/1OO22OI1h1/ RzH6MtR+OYuknbmc4dGlj5RLmzkj/GaDT0ZwLKDxi0+SaH9or7feBWJnuDdkVf8j3jvT AOPem119jsfp72VVFEJ33qy0GppuWj4lt1IYvPRm2hQF3odd+HDZMlg5txkvt5Z0oiLv D+XX2C8EOHfKgnBMLVPevXQgzlybGv/pYGE8Sev7WXEq3g1WNPr9dNnfCLaLUofWRUGW Iq7QAEULnkLlCXyqJjStQDg1Rjc+s7QdDsByMSh0C0oVBOgaWLtNbWQkWVCm0I1bBpdB VEAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKDvt24bbOKJqn/No8kI7jQm0lVXaCffMmzCckgnYpGJwD1due85b4ED/CIx5oRfw== X-Received: by 10.66.26.70 with SMTP id j6mr24073829pag.24.1468712174667; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.108] ([110.64.91.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id yo10sm6538326pab.4.2016.07.16.16.36.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level To: Polytropon References: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Yubin Ruan Message-ID: <578AC4E9.7080108@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 07:36:09 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:36:15 -0000 On 2016å¹´07月17æ—¥ 06:25, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. >> >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). >> >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. >> >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in >> console. >> >> Do you have any clue? > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > How to check whether the powerd configuration is right ? thanks, Ruan. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 23:52:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8381B9B1BB for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9645C1179 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6GNquYa000498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:52:57 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> <20160716173613.956c8469.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160716180807.677321a2@archlinux.localdomain> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:58:26 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160716180807.677321a2@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:52:59 -0000 On 07/16/16 11:14, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:36:13 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >>> Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. >> Which renders 99% of "modern" web pages totally unusable >> (as in "stop using that web page")... > Perhaps running two instances of FF, with different profiles helps. > > [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ firefox --help|grep -i profile > -P Start with . > --profile Start with profile at . > --ProfileManager Start with ProfileManager. > > firefox -P one_per_cent > firefox -P hundred_per_cent > > :D > > Joking apart, as already pointed out, click the search icon and > unchecks "Provide search suggestions", if you want to use the Google > search, or add Startpage and make it the default. Startpage provides > quasi the same hits as Google does, since it's based on Google, but it > provides better privacy. Note, by default Startpage has got family > filters enabled and this filter sometimes misvalues a search term. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Already did both (uncheck, Startpage), we'll see how it goes. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 16 23:54:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EF6B9B2B5 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56E8612F1 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6GNspiW000958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:54:51 -0500 Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <64069.128.135.52.6.1468590832.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <64833.69.209.225.239.1468685631.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:00:20 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64833.69.209.225.239.1468685631.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:54:53 -0000 On 07/16/16 11:20, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Sat, July 16, 2016 10:30 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 07/15/16 09:00, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Fri, July 15, 2016 8:15 am, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> Wouldn't TOR defeat the geo+IP mapping ? > >>>> Indeed, since I started using >>>> TOR, whenever I visit Google, > >>> But when you are using tor (or tor browser), _YOU_ with your habits of >>> doing things can defeat significant portion of privacy protection tor >>> gives you. One of the things to avoid here: don't use google for >>> searches. >>> On tor project website there is short writeup. But that is really >>> instructive, it gives a bunch of simple rules and good practices. The >>> link >>> also is on the first page when you start tor browser. Here it is: >>> >>> https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warning >>> >>> Valeri >>> >> Funny, when I clicked on the link above, I got an error page that said >> the webpage was incorrectly configured & firefox refused to connect to >> it, even after I added an exception for it .... >> > It opens for me (just tried again in safari and firefox on macintosh at > home - the same happens at my job place). Even though I usually post > something by copying and pasting from the location bar after I open that > page myself, I felt obliged to test again after I learned it didn't work > for you. > > I can imagine one of two things: > > 1. You have [much] tighter security/privacy settings of your browser that > I do > > 2. Your network provider hates tor project and tor network (which defeat > their spying which URLs you are visiting). Some of providers do, the very > moment my provider does it, they loose me as a customer (I would say > forever: I really do have long memory for those who attempted nasty things > against me...). > > Please, tell us what was it, I for one am curious. > > Valeri > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Haven't chased it (yet), but it is reliable/repeatable. The message seems to be from FireFox, but who knows .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.