From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 14 00:39:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D733BB8294 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1221262 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED2F234A885 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:39:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:39:17 -0000 > On 13 August 2016, at 15:45, Doug Hardie = wrote: >=20 > I just upgraded an older PC to 11.0-RC1. Everything went fine except = the msk0 device is not found. Neither is lo0. Its as if networks never = got started. However, running netif start does nothing. msk0 is found = in the hardware during boot and it appears to get all the proper values. Some more information. I finally found a keyboard with scroll lock. = The output shows Starting Network: msk0 Starting Network: lo0 Right after that is: route: writing to network socket: network is unreachable It appears that the network doesn't start, but is not logging an error. = The rc.conf file is the same one used in 9.x which worked. I did try = converting from fixed IP to DHCP, but that made no difference. msk = modules are in the kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 14 03:24:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0A6BB8AF7 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 03:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0201B9C for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 03:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2016 12:49:16 +0930 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from predator-ii.buffyverse (predator-ii.buffyverse [172.17.17.136]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u7E3J5cY028853; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 12:49:06 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Message-ID: <1471144745.42359.5.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Subject: Re: uname -r gives -p4; freebsd-update says "no updates needed to update to -p7" From: Wayne Sierke To: twilight , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 12:49:05 +0930 In-Reply-To: <46db5e9f-d2da-3f32-bcd9-88966de60816@openmailbox.org> References: <46db5e9f-d2da-3f32-bcd9-88966de60816@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Sun, 14 Aug 2016 12:49:06 +0930 (ACST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 172.17.17.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.004000(2014-02-07) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.9 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 03:24:28 -0000 On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 23:46 +0000, twilight wrote: > Is it a bug or a feature? > > ~> uname -r > 10.3-RELEASE-p4 > ~> sudo freebsd-update fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 10.3-RELEASE from > update.FreeBSD.org... > done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > No updates needed to update system to 10.3-RELEASE-p7. > ~> sudo freebsd-update install > No updates are available to install. > Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. > > The userland ("world") and kernel version numbers diverge when system updates do not modify the kernel: $ uname -r 10.3-RELEASE-p4 $ freebsd-version -k 10.3-RELEASE-p4 $ freebsd-version -u 10.3-RELEASE-p6 $ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 14 13:14:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED66ABB97E0 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 13:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70D5D175F for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 13:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u7EDDwuL096836; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:13:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:13:57 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring server for crashes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160814222921.O79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 13:14:05 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 636, Issue 8, Message: 7 On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 13:32:05 -0453.75 "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > On 08/13/16 09:33, Ian Smith wrote: [..] > > #!/bin/sh > > # 19Feb16 loadavg_daily .. every 10 seconds from 02:59 to 03:09 (run by cron) > > log='/root/loadavg_daily.log' > > secs=10 > > i=0 > > /root/bin/x200stat >> $log # or something else, or nothing .. > > while [ $i -lt 60 ]; do > > echo -n "`uptime` " >> $log > > echo "`sysctl -n hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature`" \ > > "`sysctl -n hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature`" >> $log > > sleep $secs > > i=$((i + 1)) > > done > > /root/bin/x200stat >> $log > > echo >> $log > > ======= > > > > Check sysctl hw.acpi.thermal for your thermal zones of interest. > Out of curiosity, I tried the above command under 9.3R: I'm running a rather out of date stable/9 on that one. 4.5 months to go. > [wam@kabini1, ~, 1:30:25pm] 581 % sysctl -n hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature' > When did it become available ? On my Lenovo X200, in 2008 :) Yours clearly oesn't have a TZ1. We saw an HP laptop of some sort here recently that had 5 thermal zones, with TZ2 being the CPU/s temperature. Every model's BIOS / ACPI is different. Some will expose CPU, GPU, HDD and other hot things, perhaps with controllable fans. Some hide them .. > > Check sysctl hw.acpi.thermal for your thermal zones of interest. And read acpi_thermal(4) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 14 15:29:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445EBBBAC4E for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f440::d144:5b3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A18F1B1A for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-122-5.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.122.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51A423F860 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57B08E5A.7010600@sneakertech.com> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:29:30 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: General NTP questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:29:39 -0000 In general, do FreeBSD and related OSs (Dragonfly, OSX, etc) have ways of restricting the ntp drift to always be within certain known-sane parameters, and/or ways of manually adjusting the drift on the fly without having to stop and restart ntpd? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 14 15:46:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4870ABBAF6B for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter03.peakinternet.com (filter03.peakinternet.com [207.55.16.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B659138B for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter03.peakinternet.com ({a3d4bcbc-467e-4baf-8e5e-c89ccb4fcca2}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20160814154238206_0000 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:38 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68A7118CC56 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E60818CC57 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 6Y5m2l71yqP3 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1880914C825 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elm.localnet with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bYxYZ-000N79-JZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:35 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: General NTP questions References: <57B08E5A.7010600@sneakertech.com> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:42:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: <57B08E5A.7010600@sneakertech.com> (quartz@sneakertech.com's message of "Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:29:30 -0400") Message-ID: <86twen8ihg.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:46:17 -0000 Quartz writes: > In general, do FreeBSD and related OSs (Dragonfly, OSX, etc) have ways > of restricting the ntp drift to always be within certain known-sane > parameters, and/or ways of manually adjusting the drift on the fly > without having to stop and restart ntpd? I think the -f option to ntptime(8) will adjust it as you want, but I don't know how to limit it. I think the only limits are that it has to be within =C2=B1500ppm. --=20 Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 14 23:36:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE399BB97E1 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77E1C1CB9 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-240.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A81E2774D for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7ENa6En003098 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:36:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:36:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Video DVD quality loss with mencoder/dvdauthor/growisofs Message-Id: <20160815013606.896d920c.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:36:16 -0000 Currently I'm searching for a way to create MPEG files suitable for creating movie DVDs. My source files are SD videos with the following properties: container: AVI video: DivX DX50, 640x360 px, 24 bpp, 25 fps audio: MP3, 44.1 kHz, 2 ch, 128 kbps I'd like to "inflate" the video for DVD resolution. When I use mencoder to do so, the graphics gets "blocky". There are no visible compression artifacts in the source video, but the result is really terrible. I know I cannot "increase quality" when doing 640x360 -> 704x576, but it should not get worse. My solution is a script "avi2dvd" which uses mencoder, dvdauthor and growisofs to prepare the required data structures and then burn them onto DVD+R media. The DVD players I tested them with play the result format, but show the "blocky" video just like a software player (both by checking the .mpg and .vob files), so the postprocessing steps do not introduce that significant quality loss. At its heart, the script contains this step: mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -ofps 25 \ -mpegopts format=dvd -vf scale=704:576,harddup \ -af lavcresample=44100 -srate 44100 \ -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:keyint=15:vrc_buf_size=327:vrc_minrate=1152:vbitrate=1152:vrc_maxrate=1152:acodec=mp2:abitrate=224 \ -o ${MPEGFILE} ${AVIFILE} This reflects the parameters I got from the mplayer documentation on the web where this approach is listed for creating DVD files. But as I said: The quality is terrible. (Sidenote: I will additionally need to experiment with -vf crop in order to deal with mis-aligned video sources.) Can anyone provide a _verified_ method that _does not lower_ the resulting video quality? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 01:00:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42532BBACB6 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw70@yandex.com) Received: from forward5o.cmail.yandex.net (forward5o.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a72::28a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCC391F08 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw70@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (smtp1h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::115]) by forward5o.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B78EA20300 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 04:00:43 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AA0FD8C08AF for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 04:00:43 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id H2Ziabk3D4-0gjaPEwb; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 04:00:43 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1471222843; bh=XHYttXBPW36W1Oa0dBRLzxojKlBw9PIYWoVh6Y2L8CM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=xwjXnLi6Wfp28RpiPpY2OrZxVtcmB3ucn4hVbms8W3LpcWYbj0E8i6gXnKvepLBAd CRyxXBdV+dLgGhppjcF+AznB6av5VaOJRmHtIf7Ok40jW+Hnqp6ZZr4Rd2qZWBKd+U D2Yan7YclORMAThKuXALb8sX9GqpXdCfrDse+MWY= Authentication-Results: smtp1h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Subject: Re: Video DVD quality loss with mencoder/dvdauthor/growisofs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160815013606.896d920c.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Rolf Nielsen Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:00:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:00:48 -0000 Reposting to include the list (apologies). On 2016-08-15 02:54, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > > > On 2016-08-15 01:36, Polytropon wrote: >> Currently I'm searching for a way to create MPEG files suitable >> for creating movie DVDs. My source files are SD videos with the >> following properties: >> >> container: AVI >> video: DivX DX50, 640x360 px, 24 bpp, 25 fps >> audio: MP3, 44.1 kHz, 2 ch, 128 kbps >> >> I'd like to "inflate" the video for DVD resolution. When I use >> mencoder to do so, the graphics gets "blocky". There are no >> visible compression artifacts in the source video, but the >> result is really terrible. I know I cannot "increase quality" >> when doing 640x360 -> 704x576, but it should not get worse. >> >> My solution is a script "avi2dvd" which uses mencoder, dvdauthor >> and growisofs to prepare the required data structures and then >> burn them onto DVD+R media. The DVD players I tested them with >> play the result format, but show the "blocky" video just like >> a software player (both by checking the .mpg and .vob files), >> so the postprocessing steps do not introduce that significant >> quality loss. >> >> At its heart, the script contains this step: >> >> mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -ofps 25 \ >> -mpegopts format=dvd -vf scale=704:576,harddup \ >> -af lavcresample=44100 -srate 44100 \ >> -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:keyint=15:vrc_buf_size=327:vrc_minrate=1152:vbitrate=1152:vrc_maxrate=1152:acodec=mp2:abitrate=224 \ >> -o ${MPEGFILE} ${AVIFILE} >> >> This reflects the parameters I got from the mplayer documentation >> on the web where this approach is listed for creating DVD files. >> But as I said: The quality is terrible. >> >> (Sidenote: I will additionally need to experiment with -vf crop >> in order to deal with mis-aligned video sources.) >> >> Can anyone provide a _verified_ method that _does not lower_ the >> resulting video quality? >> >> >> > > Try -sws 9 -vf scale=704:576:0:0:10,harddup,pp=ac and see if that helps. > > -sws 9 selects lanczos filter for scaling, and the 10 at the end of the > scale filter does some settings with lanczos (I don't remember exactly > which, but the result looks awful without it), and the pp=ac is a post > processing filter that should reduce blockiness. > > And btw, DVD video requires the audio tracks to be 48000 Hz. > -- Vnligen / Sincerely, Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 03:13:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168E3BBA7C8 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA14016C0 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C729110 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:07:21 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PRTdh6fwzPCZ for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:07:21 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.2.118] (freia.ne1.au.calorieking.net [192.168.2.118]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2224DC9 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:07:21 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: Best way to search questions list archives To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <57ADBBD5.8060304@gmail.com> From: Gregory Orange Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:07:19 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57ADBBD5.8060304@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:13:27 -0000 On 12/08/16 20:06, Ernie Luzar wrote: > The key word here is "search" everything or everything by selected year. Occasionally I start work on a new project (e.g. reinstalling a Soekris machine we have here) and want to do some arbitrary searching of its mailing list archives. If the work is worth it, I write a script to download all of the archives with something like wget, and ingest them into a folder in Thunderbird. Then they're available for very quick searching using all of TB's power, plus I can subscribe to said list for ongoing additions to that folder. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 03:19:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12ABBA8D4 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ED50181B for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-122-5.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.122.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EDA93F857 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57B134C2.1060605@sneakertech.com> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:19:30 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video DVD quality loss with mencoder/dvdauthor/growisofs References: <20160815013606.896d920c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160815013606.896d920c.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:19:33 -0000 Can you upload a picture somewhere with an example of the 'blockyness'? It's unclear from your description if you're seeing scaling artifacts or compression artifacts. 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[24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x3sm2959855ite.1.2016.08.15.04.58.02 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Aug 2016 04:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B1AE4B.3050407@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 07:58:03 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions Subject: dhcpd and interface name Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:58:03 -0000 When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface"rl0" but when restarting using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart all interfaces on the host get included. Is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the interface to use? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 12:15:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50B5BBBEDD for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alnis.m@mail.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94E911AFC for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alnis.m@mail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.192] ([78.84.255.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MC4hy-1bQR1j1gIa-008pIz for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:09:59 +0200 Subject: Re: dhcpd and interface name To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <57B1AE4B.3050407@gmail.com> From: Alnis Morics Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:09:56 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57B1AE4B.3050407@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Kv5dWzsfSjpk8HdpdjjbTlMmpKV++/7iuF3Pt+InJCFuUyYY2xF UV6CfnBJSbnNYRldh86y3/anKVCmlUU3o8go2zwO1Ef73NIgNMul4r9nVUH1JyGfBSUkCaD uZnAh7gPCt6abV+t4uWXN0CNDzYxysrYYusBrwT1+7WQqsS2CD6kr2CxiHqQKQpvvyDeLZf JzxELhzx5GnklAKLSKpPw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XK50cHigsoU=:LC/qFeXld7LagBAftNl7yf cGYi0jfo6hK63BBat0INqe9M4PggF5+HYC8dociKy3bQ+SZLEBjdeSfeeMBQ7pjZkjjzy5ozg TNZEg8kzi76KGH9xpqpBJwfpN3JiFgox4iid1FS+7I6R6KHVLFnxV2a19TMmgArh0/EDHzqex Ozqsz370j3zzAfk46FQ/FtLmSSo70eNbq+Wb06oqGIwy3xJ78ZL048wv+PDkVh0YUwdO9+eOf 4xJNvthWfcngPCsh6L1h+Z6pE4/emTsvbMoUkwNX6cFz7CpncylUlfGbH7oeSgX1Z1kK73xKx yupai4s6d7DzYmSI8jc/BgnoTgYBOtr0BFhPzve0wwit8gPmXhlf7aFxhjIWER89i6RjPfXBP kxcHKhfx6sYo94fUXVECr2ybNaT4WWVpIv4pcoWLqJHSkLQ/4tp40nH1llTktJKZNpKVJAVTO Rw2PYYLefHEZJTZreymllQ1TjFNuSH2B0nhLWgAcPzqO8x0RpW5Wm4DASGtSeGsffHYXo5lUV D43ilPZyeZir2j6g4EnynDD7PsDqnTse2LcsnFm5wR64WGuaO8Db2G3dYZm5Vw9pKvkO5dp6M UEhIoxevGseAEkdandKlmLA+GmlNQP5OJz6F0Yz0zHsvucYKT3RUzfEm7Z1FkS0EeOXhZkjVw 3Kjlcjo6ihMwP/iNxLUBcthuus6hY0Aye8IVrYPx3Fey/TN36WQ7wjw98hEzefirY9hTvRgr0 EOPvBEm2jNFTg5M1EbiIllmX6stKjOWE19HrNtJZRJkFDJP5JNx/VpNrh/k= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:15:14 -0000 On 08/15/2016 02:58 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface"rl0" > but when restarting using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart all > interfaces on the host get included. > > Is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the interface to use? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Did you quote it exactly how you have it it rc.conf? 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[74.78.120.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b20sm7335904itb.22.2016.08.15.06.05.59 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:05:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Schnable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:23:35 -0400 Subject: Meraki MX series security appliances Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:06:01 -0000 Has anyone gotten FreeBSD running on any of these appliances ? Thanks Nate From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 13:06:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADF2BB9C8F for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22c.google.com (mail-it0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3329A1538 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id e63so6229981ith.1 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d2R67+Ia6NV7Y8X3CuCFOPVCXupY2grHTyzA45ymkX0=; b=rPkKcfKP6QUDVi2/8ZNvhr35erBJDn/Nfavz5DuNUI1SjCdLGggKNNR2rZIPkKbz0D UFYJZUKXEModCeadiUkvbbXTlaR/S6SdZN/3CpzCFs9CSmydDdYp7cZExu8pLnUi1hNV /lYDCuwG4UXNLEWHcT11SRLz2VVj0YmWsEh22iGoTkFCYMO2aOHqFkkiD8sgdahzY5Ke agAjZxgKLab58P0Up+mHCqf9kfWit3/wwQMTrYcRJfZ73Y2GoUXh/ulSTMn7dV9UbVwi a0kTYFH5UeC5OGQzsq5Rb+Dcv7PDamS9MD2b5VDexmGRAlDhnlRvSCuXg9TiSb8Ui+oG 7EhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d2R67+Ia6NV7Y8X3CuCFOPVCXupY2grHTyzA45ymkX0=; b=coP2QdL9qoKRxWulwdOMqgk2u3T4PldiELcHKLIVClyUWU/O0QhDR4OQ8wwHT4oa1t trAOnFj3XcB3snOr1USqYzEx0X+7/xGeHTr8Hp4Y2/5xndRgZionmaeoKuX83ieIvTIL Aes8Kd/Fdvv8evQ0Cr0kLF6zrdc0zxFHmAMydC5cu5A3O51v73BYWDUO8DP+yJvaUVle 3HusvF9UHlfOmrCCRRuvuRVC0qG9W7gW3upQACL0GwSp6pWeyt0/e1EtizVHLOqq+JDk LJ+7IuudJdVPJlyp2W98xONrbUwHsMtp1KR0CV7PE3B4w+R1Z5e/lvAPd7gfMvFBqKsX zoHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvZWRDf1SWzxhYG0yQeEVkPpVgqU/dvzSDXCljg1lSETPFxi5nQ6Dqfzve6xCQXcA== X-Received: by 10.36.242.68 with SMTP id j65mr13175468ith.25.1471266371634; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-24-165-196-54.neo.res.rr.com. [24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o184sm7416314ith.2.2016.08.15.06.06.10 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B1BE47.1080008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:06:15 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alnis Morics CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhcpd and interface name References: <57B1AE4B.3050407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:06:13 -0000 Alnis Morics wrote: > > > On 08/15/2016 02:58 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface"rl0" >> but when restarting using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart all >> interfaces on the host get included. >> >> Is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the interface to use? >> > Did you quote it exactly how you have it it rc.conf? The syntax should be: > > dhcpd_enable="YES" > dhcpd_ifaces="rl0" > > -Alnis > Let me restate to make more clear. When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface="rl0" and dhcp is limited to the rl0 interface as desired. But when restarting using "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart" command, all interfaces on the host get included, not just rl0. This is because the statements in rc.conf are not being reread when using this restart command systax. So I am thinking there must be some way to code the interface name in the dhcpd.conf itself. I read the man pages and could not find anything along this line. So I am asking here, is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the interface to use? If so, what is it? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 14:30:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BC6BBBF83 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEE01B0D for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id BC8CFCB8CB3; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:30:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:30:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <18337.128.135.52.6.1471271435.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <57B1BE47.1080008@gmail.com> References: <57B1AE4B.3050407@gmail.com> <57B1BE47.1080008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:30:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: dhcpd and interface name From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Ernie Luzar" Cc: "Alnis Morics" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:30:43 -0000 On Mon, August 15, 2016 8:06 am, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Alnis Morics wrote: >> >> >> On 08/15/2016 02:58 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>> When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface"rl0" >>> but when restarting using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart all >>> interfaces on the host get included. >>> >>> Is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the interface to use? >>> >> Did you quote it exactly how you have it it rc.conf? The syntax should >> be: >> >> dhcpd_enable="YES" >> dhcpd_ifaces="rl0" >> >> -Alnis >> > Let me restate to make more clear. > > When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface="rl0" > and dhcp is limited to the rl0 interface as desired. > > But when restarting using "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart" > command, all interfaces on the host get included, not just rl0. The following is not a solution, just an observation. If all of your "other" interfaces are outside the IP ranges configured in DHCP server configuration, then upon restart DHCP server will still ignore them and will not respond to any DHCP requests coming to these interfaces. This is as far as I remember how ISC DHCP server works (am I outdated?). So, I've got the following questions: do any of your other interfaces fall inside one of your DHCP ranges? Please, show all range dynamic-bootp x.x.x.x y.y.y.y; lines from your /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf file; and give list of all IP addresses your network interfaces have. Do you indeed observe on the interface outside your "range dynamic-bootp " responses from your ISC DHCP server to DHCP requests? If yes, this will be fair grounds for bug report IMHO. Valeri > > This is because the statements in rc.conf are not being reread when > using this restart command systax. > > So I am thinking there must be some way to code the interface name in > the dhcpd.conf itself. I read the man pages and could not find anything > along this line. > > So I am asking here, is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the > interface to use? If so, what is it? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 14:54:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FFCBB962A for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08831A00 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39318548 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:54:07 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u7FEsMoA003932 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:54:22 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u7FEsJmj003931 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:54:19 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:54:19 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Root on ZFS, LiveCD and BE Message-ID: <20160815145419.GA3619@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:54:26 -0000 Colleagues, Which is the appropriate maillist to ask questions about Root-on-ZFS systems? Like the ones below: 1. Boot environment selection from the loader menu does not work on 10.3-RELEASE, or it seems like it. I have submitted a PR https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211835 but maybe it's me doing something wrong? Could someone reproduce please? 2. Sometimes it's necessary to mount a system's root from another system (LiveCD, mfsBSD or similar). To do that, you have to import a system's zroot pool on another system. Is it safe? Is it not going to render the original system unbootable? There is not much on https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS, it mostly concentrates on installing FreeBSD on ZFS, not on using it afterwards. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 15:37:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D6FBBA744; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x242.google.com (mail-io0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0B5A1C47; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x242.google.com with SMTP id i199so6022446ioi.1; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:37:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N0pD189tSUdH3m7u2y2ICLD+dEt0t/VN9MF/A8VLy4M=; b=uWq0ou/r9Frg8gfWHBYblMA6llQ1VjESWG1uej7BIHS8FxtPq7vxkQ0LalG4+t5q2G kbz6zn7zlFE1G7QZmE0wfE00JeaXeau+FEle1RMIcqkHiZCu9f6PYGtIMNncwXSJqHyY 1aRUX+5XI3YCKPj3vXJdwmwB50GiDDNnbKVtXR0WliH+SviPzYHPtZpknlVNij0+95Gm PkcW0Fn/k5amF6z9boKrRZ1TJIbrFzpWGk+H5qQfrAjJYhlZ2m2SnY4SxUVbVtuMPkPx ZsDHNKIo9vCZ6/r4vzckYg0NOddWPZstDWjk7pmQT+ue1wlefb5OI4vkTCEu+WIKF494 K4sw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N0pD189tSUdH3m7u2y2ICLD+dEt0t/VN9MF/A8VLy4M=; b=F6ElB9ff+p/z0bizk/jXJBRZy2s8IabDC0BH4iEiQC3O08iPdNfmGCS72AUTUJBJF4 6wB0+PUNrU5NX6gKQYr1IkT+riP2yQXuRK6OXt+94Xk78rV/ZJc7Xs5r40ej1D/zOMhY cgSXjwXphPUKH9mO3fm9s9KDdFdoRjqgopUEpFI7i1xyXf1X9uxhqitrqtsdsWggBsVx W5oop0dxxHlhbaQRGBbzSX3cWLciJuC44UVFW05R3gws4KyksMx4NscDW5GK60Dn4RSW TkwXpqrNqmU4SW3t4gFMru6fugA/l8IrVaChd+Y/ogM3/DaWmDyxt3wSuJm+T/sZAlwT rpEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouum//aVtVplm8OW0vC+QLCVUguZRoGIt0ay8hTIA+fJIG+OEfesjBKJMYvRGSAYnQ== X-Received: by 10.107.128.200 with SMTP id k69mr39443157ioi.65.1471275442888; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-24-165-196-54.neo.res.rr.com. [24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q204sm7630717itc.19.2016.08.15.08.37.22 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:37:32 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" Subject: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:37:24 -0000 Hello list; Running 11.0-RC1 with only option vimage compiled into the generic kernel. I can run ipfilter on the host and start vnet jails containing no firewalls just fine. But when I try to also have ipfilter run in the vnet jail nothing happens. I added this to the vnet jails rc.conf ipfilter_enable="YES" ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.boot.rules" ipmon_enable="YES" ipmon_flags="-Ds" Then start the vnet jail and its like those ipfilter statements in the vnet jails rc.conf are not there. The vnet jails /var/log/messages file is not even there. Issuing "ipfstat" inside the running vnet jail to display the jails ipfilter rules gives this error message "open(IPSTATE_NAME): No such file or directory" To me this means ipfilter is not running in the vnet jail even though I requested it in the vnet jails rc.conf file. So my question to this list is, has anyone managed to get ipfilter to run inside a vnet jail using any of the 11.0 alpha, beta, or rc versions? If so would you please share your setup with me? Maybe I am to close to the bleeding edge for there to be other users in the same test loop? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 16:59:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E36EBBBC0A; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (bird.sbone.de [46.4.1.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.sbone.de", Issuer "SBone.DE" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02DFF17C6; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BC4825D3857; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89195D1F891; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MVCles0pq4yn; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.248.105.13] (fresh-tun0-ula.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:4920:2ef0:eeff:fe03:ee34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4BDFD1F814; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:27 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: "Ernie Luzar" Cc: "Freebsd Questions" , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:24 +0000 Message-ID: <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6048) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:59:39 -0000 On 15 Aug 2016, at 15:37, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Hello list; > > Running 11.0-RC1 with only option vimage compiled into the generic > kernel. > > I can run ipfilter on the host and start vnet jails containing no > firewalls just fine. But when I try to also have ipfilter run in the > vnet jail nothing happens. I added this to the vnet jails rc.conf > ipfilter_enable="YES" > ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.boot.rules" > ipmon_enable="YES" > ipmon_flags="-Ds" > > Then start the vnet jail and its like those ipfilter statements in the > vnet jails rc.conf are not there. The vnet jails /var/log/messages > file is not even there. Issuing "ipfstat" inside the running vnet jail > to display the jails ipfilter rules gives this error message > "open(IPSTATE_NAME): No such file or directory" > To me this means ipfilter is not running in the vnet jail even though > I requested it in the vnet jails rc.conf file. > > So my question to this list is, has anyone managed to get ipfilter to > run inside a vnet jail using any of the 11.0 alpha, beta, or rc > versions? If so would you please share your setup with me? > > Maybe I am to close to the bleeding edge for there to be other users > in the same test loop? The startup script contains “nojail”. I think someone opened a bug report the other day but I can’t find it anymore; so the startup script won’t automatically run inside a jail. Can you remove that line and try again? /bz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 17:01:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52652BBBD16 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (mx1.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:1008:bcb:1:1:0:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22AFC1B04 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from [IPv6:2003:8c:2e05:e01:acf0:2b3d:66f3:87d4] (p2003008C2E050E01ACF02B3D66F387D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:8c:2e05:e01:acf0:2b3d:66f3:87d4]) by mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3sChbp3jkFz8Yc for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:01:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Grimm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FreeBSD 11 : running blacklistd needed for 520.pfdenied? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:01:39 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 17:01:44 -0000 Hi =E2=80=94 I recently upgraded from 10.3-STABLE to 11.0-PRERELEASE. Now, I am = missing those parts in my daily security report regarding pf, e.g.: example.private pf denied packets: +block drop in on ix0 all [ Evaluations: 12757684 Packets: = 133590 Bytes: 7477681 States: 0 ] +block drop in log quick on ix0 from to any [ = Evaluations: 12754165 Packets: 3753 Bytes: 269612 States: 0 ] +block drop quick on ix0 from any to [ Evaluations: = 790740 Packets: 873 Bytes: 295032 States: 0 ] I do believe that those lines should be generated by = /etc/periodic/security/520.pfdenied (stripped to the relevant part): TMP=3D`mktemp -t security`=20 touch ${TMP}=20 for _a in "" blacklistd=20 do=20 pfctl -a ${_a} -sr -v -z 2>/dev/null | \=20 nawk '{if (/^block/) {buf=3D$0; getline; gsub(" +"," = ",$0); if ($5 > 0) print buf$0;} }' >> ${TMP}=20 done=20 JFTR: This script *is* running daily (double-checked by entering = debugging code). Questions:=20 "blacklistd" in google found: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D5913 Does that mean that I do need to run the blacklistd daemon if I = do want to re-activate 520.pfdenied reports? If I am on the wrong track, where should I look instead? =09 Thanks in advance and regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 18:58:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BB4BBA250 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22b.google.com (mail-ua0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59370128C for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergeig.public@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n59so87010554uan.2 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=M8ecDjvAB2sTQ6T+vB5KOxBVnS3dJH6N1HkLb3uDkSE=; b=QwP8F8wIy4H+2i87UtwMmhPILejp4W8wxnULKmzC264IKSJ6wAj00O9PFay2Jhr0mC Gphsg7XbF0G0PkOauY9KrmNiZDNs6h1KnOwk4lLzJ+HNy0Z1bq0I8yFQWRQx54Mxw1ps 377LF/CwqsRW9yThLV0KIBRdZzc/C/+o4XsXjRW8yOq1k36yakrBWK/Fp2/PY9TKEu/u UvESl2ZOcp2usihv/1lfQkLemb1aHjs8Kzp3ZVHKACA/8ry+84HcLbw1lxsyUydyn9P1 g6iYuuwVdjnd3zLphcoVVasACLk3xL4azCdK2wRY+cDEECYumK3s8MEA0qCJPWsdEP6U lnNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=M8ecDjvAB2sTQ6T+vB5KOxBVnS3dJH6N1HkLb3uDkSE=; b=TMF94YVx850HZzeu9BqkYtAi1cG+U0lNKVyPnYm3RGy/l20Lrvfsnq5PlRj3ZHz+G/ eqEfxwSraqiv1h0sxcNgRx33ISLaCGpTegvAJ21bv3N9VcKUjKfWFbIYSTngzCnDpqbW lRUiTYaAulAkXNXVnFa4EqaI747ozZnRZzs6gw5PF3J5wPFtGGcEJUIsNSaxLwAUP7nV ixTiXO5UF8uYQ900A5rUlxFZBH9S4FAHdBf9PFEy+pLezZa1y88o4F2hmAk+lV8vPWJL 8L+uOoGCsjTOtdoQOYslWj6pQQDA4Jl69/gYzT6yMUhDsHbGK2yqJue/y4OLo/bcAglw kZaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouv6iNzlG/6Y+7GyJhYgXtL/tohxnJRsWyp6ZLvClNGHEOJptKKovMQy7f8QehsudYq2BN5Ik68BANK4cg== X-Received: by 10.159.37.139 with SMTP id 11mr2206247uaf.45.1471287525205; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:58:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.9.129 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:58:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergei G Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:58:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: isolation of GO lang application (jail and chroot) To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:58:46 -0000 Hi, I have a small web application (using GO language) that I wrote and need to run as a daemon. I would love to expose it to Internet in a safe and secure way. I know I can load a jail (I use qjail) and load application that way. I will then forward requests from nginx to the tail. That's what I typically do. The jail is a mini copy of operating system with application running inside of it. I'd like to lighten the configuration effort. chroot comes to mind, but I have not done that. Do I have to code chroot as a system call from inside my GO language application? Or can I chroot just like I do jails? Can I jail just a single process without setting up a copy of operating system? That's what ideally I would like to do. My application does open a TCP/IP socket for serving data and works with local file system. Do you have any recommendation? Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 19:43:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A9CBBB462 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from relay14.nicmail.ru (relay14.nicmail.ru [195.208.3.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23E631808 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afiskon@devzen.ru) Received: from [109.70.25.225] (port=51053 helo=e733) by f19.mail.nic.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1bZNZM-000GVR-9i; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:29:08 +0300 Received: from [188.123.231.37] (account afiskon@devzen.ru HELO e733) by proxy03.mail.nic.ru (Exim 5.55) with id 1bZNZL-0001JQ-Tr; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:29:07 +0300 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:27:54 +0300 From: Aleksander Alekseev To: Sergei G Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: isolation of GO lang application (jail and chroot) Message-ID: <20160815222754.39c3da1d@e733> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:43:30 -0000 Hello, Sergei There is a good chapter about jails in a handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html However in my opinion since your application is already "all in one" executable which is written in safe high level language there is little benefit of using jails in your case. Perhaps running it under a user with appropriate permissions and quotas, plus setting up a firewall will be good enough. I believe jails are more for applications you don't really trust. For instance if you are creating a shared web hosting or selling VDS'es. For all this "running everything in a container and only one executable per container" stupid rules we should be grateful to Docker and people who sell it. Most of the time you don't need it since it's just doesn't solve any problem. -- Best regards, Aleksander Alekseev From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 15 20:44:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF87BBA7D8 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE693134F for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bZOUH-0006LR-BF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:27:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bZOUb-0007yp-Sw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:28:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:27:56 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: isolation of GO lang application (jail and chroot) Message-Id: <20160815212756.c5d2b50a5ed5482c544b1ab8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:44:50 -0000 On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:58:44 -0700 Sergei G wrote: > Can I jail just a single process without setting up a copy of operating > system? That's what ideally I would like to do. Yes you can do this, all you need to do is to make sure that you have everything the application needs inside the jail - shared libraries, configuration files, workspace etc. The set the exec_start for the jail to the program you want to run. I usually do this by installing the application in the host and then copying the essentials into the jail. IME this usually involves a few false starts as you find things missing that are needed in the jail but once past those it just works(tm), so don't uninstall from the host until the jail is working. The next fiddly part comes when you need to upgrade the jailed application, the safest way is to start from scratch in a fresh jail and cut over the IP address when it works. You probably need to abandon qjail and set the jail up by hand to do this. The payoff comes in security, if someone manages to compromise the application there's nothing else in the jail for them to play with. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 05:44:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D95BBB00C for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from radek.krejca@starnet.cz) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz (exchange.mail.starnet.cz [92.62.224.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz", Issuer "STARNET" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE5113D9 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from radek.krejca@starnet.cz) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4]) by EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4%14]) with mapi; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 07:44:32 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Radek_Krej=E8a?= To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 07:44:31 +0200 Subject: speedtest (Ookla) on amd64 Thread-Topic: speedtest (Ookla) on amd64 Thread-Index: AdH3gUQrav6w0TC1RRWkL+5bsstBbA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: cs-CZ Content-Language: cs-CZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: cs-CZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:44:43 -0000 Hello, do you have anybody speedtest.net server on amd64 FBSD box? Binary was evid= ently compiled on i386. access("/usr/home/jenkins/jenkins/workspace/speedtest-poco-server-full/labe= l/freebsd/platform/freebsd/lib/FreeBSD/i386/libstdc++.so.6",F_OK) ERR#2 'No= such file or directory' access("/usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or dir= ectory' access("/lib32/libstdc++.so.6",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or dir= ectory' access("/usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or dir= ectory' Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required by "OoklaServer"write(2,= "Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" n"...,67) =3D 67 (0x43) My customer has one server with 10.3 amd64 FBSD and runs other services, so= I cannot reinstall it to i386. I have lib32 install package installed but = I need gcc i386 library or if there is other way, how to install this serve= r on amd64 I will be very glad. Thank you very much. Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 11:13:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758F1BBBD26 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECEC814CA for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u7GBD9vS090721; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:13:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:13:09 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Ernie Luzar cc: Alnis Morics , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhcpd and interface name In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160816205252.C79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:13:22 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 637, Issue 1, Message: 9 On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 07:58:03 -0400 Ernie Luzar wrote: > When starting dhcpd at boot time the rc.conf contains dhcpd_iface"rl0" > but when restarting using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd restart all > interfaces on the host get included. > > Is there a dhcpd.conf statement for defining the interface to use? Joe there's a typo, whether just in your messages or in your rc.conf: /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp41-server/pkg-message: **** This port installs dhcp daemon, but doesn't invoke dhcpd by default. If you want to invoke dhcpd at startup, put these lines into /etc/rc.conf. dhcpd_enable="YES" # dhcpd enabled? dhcpd_flags="-q" # command option(s) dhcpd_conf="%%PREFIX%%/etc/dhcpd.conf" # configuration file dhcpd_ifaces="" # ethernet interface(s) dhcpd_withumask="022" # file creation mask [..] As Alnis already pointed out, it's dhcpd_ifaces, plural. Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 11:20:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53159BBBEF1 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCD5E1688 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from hephaistos.local ([188.193.147.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M0LtB-1bLOPh38aD-00uZb8 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:20:12 +0200 Received: by hephaistos.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 525B2297CDF6; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:20:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:20:02 +0200 From: "Martin S. Weber" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) - how to investigate? Message-ID: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:QAG7DEJn0OXccRHnwPRieY6XspoG6VFV77a9LfhtYKG2ftc2eZX 4eH6yYymUBVVDzglVPJXPwLZy5VvGa9GVyb1XuubunIDSXTYRM3AEtZ3Dtvd/gbQNJbCveR uUXy5navLU6J8YDIujpCKGurDWaG4X3FWqqEZrjPtAWoFQug0A/5mDHoZftHceFIu66Cj7G b0HKM/8oqMJ4pnJPzSARA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zCZlebTSUXc=:WUaNH6ZuDivKFCF/NJcgfs b4Q6IsN5oknICvSG60iyiOoKeObGVCDHTOpsn7rZtU5/9Hb/4Ehhn3LCYTJeYwxfwOSuh0qaj dHH9ZwyMOkrwgJWNTfBCtIOUAmLH9vghNRM0RVR99JAxzX5+2oypNPcl3Venb2DHr2d7qCvwb wpUiUtBDX1y7QXHqW1s5G+GB2x0t5lkUJ53geGJkz0MJn08lph90/ORzevhAw2dUG50AAKuE5 e6WvRojIAdP1iryBb7WQmajTyn9PYohlptA149gPZCwnW9qQa5pNXFFVZLL9rVH9xp/M9pEpP EpGyTzhgJDp6RkqWA1iIbbaGJnZJuOubn2w260ly9DmsYWwWj/foaB4wtXet/rhNUbmJ7bNc5 LocQfBBXMDeYQPa9JKeqzH99KqwOdm04EVxupeJhibhEC3WIzECnan4xPnMVXMxYUqNWsPI2h r9W2TiIxVeq5a3x1XohzPC+b5WR/Ub6GqS7QNCK+RQ07mLzqexD5l7kz5Y9EVz2pYDN1mX45v n6Jsw5EsOZlGG1Mbsjt6/nNPZ+qS5wpbtZrnEgFfx9E+ZhR2X8hCupZJsGMhDkjWhWJ4Y3ZX1 1SHUi3p087TZu2lknCL4dyI3+ncB/rHyNlBWi4ovu0owvyl8cxRRni1riUZHtGm1ZaPusTDqd griFMFnv8MJ4wvh7wdS9almnTn12BsTz/tLT40aAUv3KjNNN56ZIICJoZ05m9sCz66PfZucHZ DWFkNAgjI2nn5DWZtx43xuITFWu7/FjZnt5AWbam4RNistX6auri6+kAK4w= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:20:22 -0000 This is on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p7. I've only noticed this today, so I'd suspect this is post the p7 update (although I haven't investigated in that direction yet). I'm losing roughly a second per 10 seconds wall time. Look at this crazy guy: # ntpd -q ; sleep 10; ntpd -q 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Command line: ntpd -q 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: proto: precision = 0.230 usec (-22) 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): good hash signature 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): loaded, expire=2016-12-28T00:00:00Z last=2015-07-01T00:00:00Z ofs=36 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listen and drop on 0 v6wildcard [::]:123 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listen and drop on 1 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0:123 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listen normally on 2 em0 10.10.1.79:123 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listen normally on 3 lo0 [::1]:123 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listen normally on 4 lo0 [fe80::1%2]:123 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listen normally on 5 lo0 127.0.0.1:123 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: Listening on routing socket on fd #26 for interface updates 16 Aug 13:12:54 ntpd[48425]: ntpd: time set +0.891676 s ntpd: time set +0.891676s 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Command line: ntpd -q 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: proto: precision = 0.229 usec (-22) 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): good hash signature 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): loaded, expire=2016-12-28T00:00:00Z last=2015-07-01T00:00:00Z ofs=36 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listen and drop on 0 v6wildcard [::]:123 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listen and drop on 1 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0:123 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listen normally on 2 em0 10.10.1.79:123 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listen normally on 3 lo0 [::1]:123 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listen normally on 4 lo0 [fe80::1%2]:123 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listen normally on 5 lo0 127.0.0.1:123 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: Listening on routing socket on fd #26 for interface updates 16 Aug 13:13:06 ntpd[48426]: ntpd: time set +1.218972 s ntpd: time set +1.218972s This is a CRAZY amount of skew. I've never noticed this before -- and I have tmux with a clock running on various servers I'm logged in; And a chiming wall clock whose skew I check vs. my system clock. This is a new "feature" - I suspect an unfortunate interaction with FreeBSD-EN-16:13.vmbus. Running ntpd or not doesn't make a difference, interestingly, I'm still losing time even with ntpd on (above example is with ntpd not running). How can I investigate what might be the source of the problem? What info can I give that might help more informed people jump to the correct conclusion what's off? Here's what I've lost since starting to write this email: 16 Aug 13:17:58 ntpd[48461]: Listening on routing socket on fd #26 for interface updates 16 Aug 13:18:31 ntpd[48461]: ntpd: time set +32.207535 s ntpd: time set +32.207535s This can't be right. TIA, -Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 11:27:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFBBBBC1F4 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2136A1BCB for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from hephaistos.local ([188.193.147.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lbi2Z-1atN1s1max-00lFoy for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:27:15 +0200 Received: by hephaistos.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1521297CDF6; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:27:14 +0200 From: "Martin S. Weber" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) - how to investigate? Message-ID: <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:15j6s4qdP048L6b3gELumHjpak9RGQQMBkQUVnTEuPJ2V9aKvB3 6wwIYCHfs1wb+zqclrP20THIahboacbZq9+zYUTCnEi2xqzfw0m7VBrPry3bjdVxH91TZ3h 10Jl1HksJqvuHROuk7eiFBBlk5sZUkFPWHKfDSp2icQ1BXgRfSVTGFf/WAERxANoAGDcTqK s3tgjVKgynYJfTVw01T/A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pNtt+DVoUMA=:WcKobHQnZbKortSKUrDK+k Fy0/vjhCrumxEMcxPkFCx0sA/cBdCvj/GpUQdhIJ2pjPu1WTu2rL5MAfGHleeHmb1DP7VCmXH AsgKRykV3go3voFTpZ9PCtgbiX9f1IV//i5vzEDoTnRhB3lJySscww8oVkOY1WoTE43ks0gnK eBXjzvTwNo/Ypiv3CzGpZ2q1mxrKlJ9ezv+cPqc6ALHoC6eSMYbSrdcZ4ua7u0WEW4Fm/i08r j5Dd1Tv7Ky2I6xkZjrXuBnT6P9yykk4FJTPymjHmfOqEARKeTh6+1Ef+QZ6wA4ZOWVW7pTKIT hBbglnSrsH+Jceha0WqFYuC6FnO3KZ6Ice6YVchd+yF32D/tj4Iti5A0xHT7LFSBbCHvsLkQW BI31aRX6rs0VJl/SUpF/k2CxssxDPChGR0EV/zO3a53VITOME/BVhC36F5NxTCe4rpZqRvEgO XpPb6Q71hAMCXnBE9lsHCiQerR9iNYb7ys3ngVG+VjJtXeglNodXAl3wG94eYHrP3sgGCKKoQ cbnpt9A0a3Lbq6WVwphgC94hQPg5ttQpPzCPnR5pkjOdZIQFQO3Zn+8l+k92EV2m8UAyVHIyV h7u3nMNUtfRIp4JXqCeg8NrBiJc8mXnh7E1fqLEHB+2XHTGChKbSwrZDCctjaxtZhRuMCqikM cPdwzQ/SM3DYU1qWzymW3zUJwhS0yg/ZRhGjunP7ajV0M3mWxTmlvur7FJa935iM/oCRYx23D 4RLvoO77BPK2iRfT5XnjL1vL3INiEIblvlOFiKioS6PttQSU+X+VLK4SnLw= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:27:23 -0000 On 2016-08-16 13:20:02, Martin S. Weber wrote: > This is on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p7. I've only noticed this today, > so I'd suspect this is post the p7 update (although I haven't > investigated in that direction yet). I'm losing roughly a second > per 10 seconds wall time. Look at this crazy guy: > > # ntpd -q ; sleep 10; ntpd -q > 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting > (...) > 16 Aug 13:12:54 ntpd[48425]: ntpd: time set +0.891676 s > ntpd: time set +0.891676s > 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting > (...) > 16 Aug 13:13:06 ntpd[48426]: ntpd: time set +1.218972 s > ntpd: time set +1.218972s > > This is a CRAZY amount of skew. I've never noticed this before -- > (...) Note, with (kernel) p4 (userland) p6 (I freebsd-update'd rollback) this does not happen: # ntpd -q ; sleep 10 ; ntpd -q 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Command line: ntpd -q 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: proto: precision = 0.260 usec (-22) 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): good hash signature 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): loaded, expire=2016-12-28T00:00:00Z last=2015-07-01T00:00:00Z ofs=36 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listen and drop on 0 v6wildcard [::]:123 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listen and drop on 1 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0:123 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listen normally on 2 em0 10.10.1.79:123 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listen normally on 3 lo0 [::1]:123 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listen normally on 4 lo0 [fe80::1%2]:123 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listen normally on 5 lo0 127.0.0.1:123 16 Aug 13:24:05 ntpd[1198]: Listening on routing socket on fd #26 for interface updates 16 Aug 13:24:06 ntpd[1198]: ntpd: time slew +0.008026 s ntpd: time slew +0.008026s 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Command line: ntpd -q 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: proto: precision = 0.255 usec (-22) 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): good hash signature 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): loaded, expire=2016-12-28T00:00:00Z last=2015-07-01T00:00:00Z ofs=36 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listen and drop on 0 v6wildcard [::]:123 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listen and drop on 1 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0:123 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listen normally on 2 em0 10.10.1.79:123 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listen normally on 3 lo0 [::1]:123 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listen normally on 4 lo0 [fe80::1%2]:123 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listen normally on 5 lo0 127.0.0.1:123 16 Aug 13:24:16 ntpd[1201]: Listening on routing socket on fd #26 for interface updates 16 Aug 13:24:17 ntpd[1201]: ntpd: time slew +0.007526 s ntpd: time slew +0.007526s So, jumping to conclusions, p6->p7 makes all the difference. This is the skew since starting to write THIS email: 16 Aug 13:26:26 ntpd[1251]: ntpd: time slew -0.005940 s Looks way more reasonable to me. Time to PR? Regards, -Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 11:33:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C73BBC3FA for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdm7dv@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F089113A for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdm7dv@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com with SMTP id x131so12154774ite.0 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:33:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=c7zfFShi3dX/rJRdi7WWzRPkC+7yYJAlz/cDzVyhPeA=; b=dK9vldhvSz2mNpk5RXBSo1H7V1xacOHNtxe/mopA/yNC2+7maIOxav8Hpl5I+oodpW 4Q5wfsdb62V2/WdcFKFXsuLFxc71WmUkTqkcg8kTQA2Z7oN6A9C8m2USIg0ri8mmhMj4 5SP0+4CQHm2FEYdaqalVepbxmpsQh9L1yaAMSGZRNN6E+7MOJFRGzIn453VDeyPrggnu y0mi7DB7pqnmVNyqhqnitpKhubO7gJcY3QMyH6G6LR5UGbzTtHPtxL32hINpRLZ4Wuqz EYIlhGuxb8aYOOQeJ7h1gImWv+47oQnhCjjteWzz0KHN4SnNg2iNcRJbvKdUagKYH99U Z3Eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=c7zfFShi3dX/rJRdi7WWzRPkC+7yYJAlz/cDzVyhPeA=; b=LOShsjGrLcRCxMb7enrDvSxJnen9nyH6Ift8A2cHuvb8xOOGGBZjw3LUdoiKbQNPEY URuQhtK6nXkhZDZLKOh17TJ7EgDMyKdAZ54JA9MK1ja0JONlaU1priBv3fYzghjsxLJ8 Pe5Qf0tKRiFbWuToG6Ou1z2vXj50g9F88eleLMaRX2BmvEezeruAsNcHP4TbtozMkIdM fD1UZQFzKzLtag9rA/Lgmoo4rTFuTSe02KaKAfTSbf8VezGYdCd2yyBZBInBxsIgWvLz ZMJR22AlHYilCFZFAbLxPDgDXNiRPP1T40S0R4R4cSKVxiDp3wiqGDypjzVjU5zMmgrA nIgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuIkgujmG48OgbIMVeFfkUXWtuo+NgEipM6KgAErj/MDrHyJpkBkFmGzITlZfsXiLWOUA2Gw1JltLfcVg== X-Received: by 10.36.209.196 with SMTP id w187mr21846535itg.47.1471347209878; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.156.69 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Moore Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 07:33:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Playing Blu-Ray Discs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:30 -0000 Hi, I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 or is this only in 11.0? Thanks, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 11:33:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6904DBBC461 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB93F11F6 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 53.101.240.10.in-addr.arpa.private.cam.ac.uk (global-5-13.nat-1.net.cam.ac.uk [131.111.5.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7B1B7C11; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/C7B1B7C11; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) - how to investigate? 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Weber" References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:33:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bXENMT2o9lGNxXPTGlr1pXaUaG34S1jKp" X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_IP, SPF_SOFTFAIL, TVD_RCVD_IP, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:33:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bXENMT2o9lGNxXPTGlr1pXaUaG34S1jKp Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="sNb0xwHHgpquHMd7E9OL8rv8WXd4GcQT9" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Martin S. Weber" Message-ID: Subject: Re: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) - how to investigate? References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> In-Reply-To: <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> --sNb0xwHHgpquHMd7E9OL8rv8WXd4GcQT9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/08/2016 12:27, Martin S. Weber wrote: > On 2016-08-16 13:20:02, Martin S. Weber wrote: >> > This is on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p7. I've only noticed this today, >> > so I'd suspect this is post the p7 update (although I haven't >> > investigated in that direction yet). I'm losing roughly a second >> > per 10 seconds wall time. Look at this crazy guy: >> >=20 >> > # ntpd -q ; sleep 10; ntpd -q = =20 >> > 16 Aug 13:12:52 ntpd[48425]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting >> > (...) >> > 16 Aug 13:12:54 ntpd[48425]: ntpd: time set +0.891676 s >> > ntpd: time set +0.891676s >> > 16 Aug 13:13:04 ntpd[48426]: ntpd 4.2.8p8-a (1): Starting >> > (...) >> > 16 Aug 13:13:06 ntpd[48426]: ntpd: time set +1.218972 s >> > ntpd: time set +1.218972s >> >=20 >> > This is a CRAZY amount of skew. I've never noticed this before -- >> > (...) > Note, with (kernel) p4 (userland) p6 (I freebsd-update'd rollback)=20 > this does not happen: Could you open a PR with the information you've included in this mail thread please? That sort of timing instability really shouldn't occur as a consequence of a system upgrade. It does seem to be peculiar to your hardware though -- if everyone was seeing that there would be ructions. Big ructions. 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Weber" To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) - how to investigate? 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I've included my dmesg and service -e output. Regards, -Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 12:04:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253F8BBB3FC for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B1D4175C; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from hephaistos.local ([188.193.147.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M4B71-1bHPhk0dLH-00rqex; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:04:55 +0200 Received: by hephaistos.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEE27297CDF6; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:04:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:04:54 +0200 From: "Martin S. Weber" To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Followup: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) Message-ID: <20160816120454.GD1241@hephaistos.local> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816113933.GB1241@hephaistos.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160816113933.GB1241@hephaistos.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:mAYJ8fgEyzhASG05hxYrLJuyw6GZgdH8Nv3gqXwizmDaj1Co8DE cozwW3AOy8uNeLgM25USAfu6Sbm7FMItWlz97NJN7SpLaAMYyRlpcas7K0Nr7AlS9/iRjqk D3RuQmdQ9WWIAA02xrfUnVEWCToGsBRZwkl233XMtiBBArXmIuRRLrx96yGYco8IpS4OrzD FZIbi3squzgpuO3Ww4MaQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jIYVTFX/cEY=:Mv97EjinMkIJHYSh6cpftO 0U0lV5gqRTU1D0JAcJ39Oj7TUKMNMNf8GGOzRs6N7qjYGQuqdo7PJxIGVZjClmC3frwzvUjSP MKs10tnh6Z8hZys858aZpm0ja7IU3cD3ek/5B+uffxn6u5QUJjsgBbxia2sBRXpNwcl6qFWDN tvadQXoycPd5ZUtmoNnqhAvyA3JfAbWWhRYJKgQh8nJSG7klNa/IuTknpRM1kQyJyBrNFzypl eT0zi98tuVtdntJV0Kf5nQhbmusN76ibQJ1jNa0Swu84e1hDaEMmRxcNCBbGuENsBpIanc3d0 mPaCHZL4m043q9arPiyAGq/UyjWyWQYlFPBaDAlrijjA8AfUSsX1Kt4hnYSiYb63pDcJjssiQ a2xXbKhf8NYizKt2h5bi//emov/QmNxxk+C7I5xWPwUaCpb8Gg4B6DjGkXZ4MCcs8vdzvNMe7 bG8bmMYMiiANovtS6oIv5pgv+Dt4gVRyRSNDJyAkioIrYCDXi+8QJ2Fd6AJKZkUdPOk5S2QYY fgexmVKDykevjxc3yFMYBJ+qnljQT4zBtSmohgyqMtOeWpkd+RAe/DjmdDoQGQrMKCRJXfVnS qSMbIH99LqWc+4dKjV6ISEVlix4t0D77x6/kxyTBdxLDp+tFNh6DVRajv0ss5iWJ7jfK3oBh5 HICPXXXdpkSpuUcX3afvN7C0SmphYOETYTZ+g1TjAaFfd0VKZAQgdSSdYLRi5djcfFoHU/G2b L7Sx4xcbPyn7NV891r88m8xkdhhjdTGh5UYv3qJvnV/bzLbudTpgB7cA6XM= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:04:58 -0000 following up to : On 2016-08-16 13:39:33, Martin S. Weber wrote: > On 2016-08-16 12:33:47, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Could you open a PR with the information you've included in this mail > > thread please? > > done, #211897. I've included my dmesg and service -e output. ..and now my p7 dmesg as well as the p4 one, and a diff between the two, which highlights two, peculiarities, as Matthew called them: -FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat May 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016 +FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p7 #0: Thu Aug 11 18:38:15 UTC 2016 (...) -CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4000.07-MHz K8-class CPU) +CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4439.49-MHz K8-class CPU) (...) -Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 2000036900 Hz quality 1000 +Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1109872466 Hz quality 1000 Not sure which I like better for the culprit, the 4439.49 MHz equals 4.0 Ghz or the different timecounter frequencies. The former nicely corresponds with the "10%" of time I lose. Regards, -Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 12:42:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0CABBB235 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01A201F06; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u7GCgUD3023130; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:42:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Followup: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816113933.GB1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816120454.GD1241@hephaistos.local> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <1bd2abf2-0cf6-cb0f-c8ec-c9c73d683ed8@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:42:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160816120454.GD1241@hephaistos.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:42:40 -0000 On 16/08/2016 13:04, Martin S. Weber wrote: > following up to : > > On 2016-08-16 13:39:33, Martin S. Weber wrote: >> On 2016-08-16 12:33:47, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> Could you open a PR with the information you've included in this mail >>> thread please? >> >> done, #211897. I've included my dmesg and service -e output. > > ..and now my p7 dmesg as well as the p4 one, and a diff between the two, > which highlights two, peculiarities, as Matthew called them: > > -FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat May 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016 > +FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p7 #0: Thu Aug 11 18:38:15 UTC 2016 > (...) > -CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4000.07-MHz K8-class CPU) > +CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4439.49-MHz K8-class CPU) > (...) > -Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 2000036900 Hz quality 1000 > +Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1109872466 Hz quality 1000 > > Not sure which I like better for the culprit, the 4439.49 MHz equals 4.0 Ghz > or the different timecounter frequencies. The former nicely corresponds with > the "10%" of time I lose. For comparison, the same processor under 10.2 (really must find time to upgrade) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (3997.77-MHz K8-class CPU) Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1998885348 Hz quality 1000 The only thing I can think of is that I don't have turbo mode enabled: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 4001/88000 4000/88000 3800/81704 etc... dev.cpu.0.freq: 4000 What does "sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq" show on your machine? -- Schrödinger's cat had 18 half lives. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 12:45:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560A6BBB437 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E004A11F9 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id q128so141636615wma.1 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=821glYiiN+yZOWi68c+YxYty8JCueOgqkMB25GATtFs=; b=cGw8BcR/HxN8uR3NNgXqYtcYvRiu2Zl3jhkmfiJnhQ2Dw/wM8+MnskxXwPucHsvUBs DZVcJa3A0b2HRUjMhJF3cZDBRBN1c9j8/yFFb4iS1mAYXFJ5QuYtWDkpZLSemKO3TAjv 0FAVV94uDgP05zstLPlZPt98i0Hys1H6Vz2wf+1Xq2cAej0bn26fvufOELsiTB18suOH mo+ZqtH+I4wFk1aVBq/57eOPwIBIH9J5DF9Z7XIqTvlAMZjtrJDNZ4/dz/E0mnI7R/9I uNzrfW4+w3lGG0OLXjJlcE9rqqTEYXcpFjAGNAATs4uwpquk7JEjIHI6sTmWzRd/y4mU iFzQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=821glYiiN+yZOWi68c+YxYty8JCueOgqkMB25GATtFs=; b=fn0ON1l0toKKcCPYskHi10tt4qtDl9cEgtr+vUYzfLG0uIwL5tj//IGc2nx64ebUb1 Tc0MmKUAk8wbezf3sTN7C0pw8qluqirGWbbnT2uUzz5L7Snnxbeq+LzapGhH7VeywuPe dU4k6wF/rktcgU79cSx9ijn6HkoHHvXL5FzxAMAEqTBq93loAnAPpVzk1hZ/yoUrOH59 w2+fFALte58ginBjqW1Fj9EJY5k0g58fwOfoBzQEkH+NeDv+kNd6ilqIB+sydHYPxE/C FQQCuPMA2D3EauztwzLVQkrq9rDDz1K7/toW/US2o/7yce2yUMZL/VC/uBM7TfZSVQ6R 6rig== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuOdRqgyeHzyGZEg5iygsD6GSyabMXmZHDtzvkbCGHWZHOJ1KSsDrbUS24kfOdAi+lDNDE2OeyrDejrEg== X-Received: by 10.28.87.3 with SMTP id l3mr21602582wmb.71.1471351505469; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:45:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.54.202 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:45:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: krad Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:45:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Playing Blu-Ray Discs To: Jonathan Moore Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:45:07 -0000 Last time a looked you wont be able to. It's down to the licencing, and copy protection certifications you need to decrypt the disks. Basically the big boys have locked opensource out of the picture. Thats why there isnt much out there on linux either. If you have an unencrypted disk though, something like vlc would probably work sort of it you pointed it at the relevant file. I'm not sure about playing the disk in the structure the authors intended as not much work has been done there due to the above issues. There may be some mileage in running something under wine, but then you have a horribly complicated setup. Best bet is just to get a cheap standalone player as it will save you a lot of time and hassle. On 16 August 2016 at 12:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 > or is this only in 11.0? > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 12:47:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C32BBB5B2; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2797814AD; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id i5so165290702wmg.0; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:47:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8gT6sxO6L0oGpVfp3vcM4xefENF1o4jgp8+A77HAFHw=; b=BGDUbsw0RthM60hKUrp7tK7nGNhjjefwzWXiMpfxGJ+A/dl/kRT6yjqyXXvNZYSQnr d2kWfZj/vx+RK374zl1FNGuhmamrWVLL75JDOVxlh398XwBWG38CBq+4P2+/K9uZcaq7 B2JT0i9wVNO2ah9Pp+xWjuapyTKeUj97LWy5TF8qAF7s07OfV4oh2ti2CsCzFqxbp0mV iwaYZhkTOMwG7krHiwM20Rv7/bwYu/DB6zz9vS3YYztNYLGNRESLyZK6nRib1WXNuGg5 pPUx8m9JqdFPeSE/wAqqJMZ9ZL/aeGxBS5DbMd39djvE4iZ9DcMZg9Cwcj8AeH/A01Kh EwXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8gT6sxO6L0oGpVfp3vcM4xefENF1o4jgp8+A77HAFHw=; b=CS+HD96uHO7xnd7WZI9COMvuYvKCOdFftyxWs7uLDxHbVU6LKaUwhJMhuPSFUAFLrF Lp7LEH4Bu+jXrICUJzKKTtyRjmm9OoLZhrO1MlzStS2nyreHIenTBaEZ4JK7rWDS/+HY 1D8R0Q2oL2Kc6bpHnyqfG2q2PRWgkwzgDhOP046PkcQqsnhfMVnXkNEem91KKLbBwnh1 oNgHh3bx1Yzk1QWE3qaJvOZqySdr2sk6gu2DXyJz917Bowdqp8622kGYps+eAR8wPcxA LjSLqv8KexPvN0Iio6ZEvavWf8uRv1GlYBT0O9xKJxi1SB/kxB6s+ITlP5MCko85MgJ3 Pe/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutbVq0xldKg7IBlsJQsCWxpam8S6x0uulBiA/EHTJFPUrOJJe36SHWz3vbyjfcKFQhci5dUdL5rYIW3DA== X-Received: by 10.194.175.106 with SMTP id bz10mr38025491wjc.42.1471351652728; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:47:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.54.202 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:47:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> From: krad Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:47:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Cc: Ernie Luzar , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , Freebsd Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:47:34 -0000 is ipfilter supported in vnet jails? Last time I looked and tried pf didnt work (kernel panics), and only ipfw was supported. On 15 August 2016 at 17:59, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 15 Aug 2016, at 15:37, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > Hello list; >> >> Running 11.0-RC1 with only option vimage compiled into the generic kerne= l. >> >> I can run ipfilter on the host and start vnet jails containing no >> firewalls just fine. But when I try to also have ipfilter run in the vne= t >> jail nothing happens. I added this to the vnet jails rc.conf >> ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" >> ipfilter_rules=3D"/etc/ipf.boot.rules" >> ipmon_enable=3D"YES" >> ipmon_flags=3D"-Ds" >> >> Then start the vnet jail and its like those ipfilter statements in the >> vnet jails rc.conf are not there. The vnet jails /var/log/messages file = is >> not even there. Issuing "ipfstat" inside the running vnet jail to displa= y >> the jails ipfilter rules gives this error message "open(IPSTATE_NAME): N= o >> such file or directory" >> To me this means ipfilter is not running in the vnet jail even though I >> requested it in the vnet jails rc.conf file. >> >> So my question to this list is, has anyone managed to get ipfilter to ru= n >> inside a vnet jail using any of the 11.0 alpha, beta, or rc versions? If= so >> would you please share your setup with me? >> >> Maybe I am to close to the bleeding edge for there to be other users in >> the same test loop? >> > > > The startup script contains =E2=80=9Cnojail=E2=80=9D. I think someone o= pened a bug > report the other day but I can=E2=80=99t find it anymore; so the startup= script > won=E2=80=99t automatically run inside a jail. Can you remove that line= and try > again? > > > /bz > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 12:53:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BB1BBB8A9 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7BEC1962; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from hephaistos.local ([188.193.147.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQih7-1blYda12A1-00U4aV; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:53:15 +0200 Received: by hephaistos.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15B9B297CDF6; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:53:14 +0200 From: "Martin S. Weber" To: Arthur Chance Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Followup: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) Message-ID: <20160816125314.GE1241@hephaistos.local> Mail-Followup-To: Arthur Chance , Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816113933.GB1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816120454.GD1241@hephaistos.local> <1bd2abf2-0cf6-cb0f-c8ec-c9c73d683ed8@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1bd2abf2-0cf6-cb0f-c8ec-c9c73d683ed8@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eyeFqqnw/7Fb/b8Mg8WY8Er5iZswdnbm859hihRfpfSQGcundJI vAdjeNhhhN31x45ljTAvS8GvrvJcvd+AbrYvn3JD3h/ujsjdNIYEJMYmqMtbInBzGQvtExP bhS9uGbh0NBGCnu2yqwz0YT9v0Srx7LT8aJXqJqR4/VNorneY4xUd5dwLi/xSglivqN9TOe INK70VC4M+6b7hW1rwyvg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:/K2SrKLtSv4=:fHd7iM0fBqU2+P7eziOGH5 QOLy1nMtICPDiM06JQP4x1b3jKs3wC4XaKOp5ewnctGtSQX/hptBtaCyGw+I84cK+K6KwX8Wt HFdIYpFeEwOEYNnLfzegm6UtncrQyFKJFMzylDifU3vT6mi1LkwieBddJoqOGpyFXS7u8GcQK g1UcxgpQyt3ZVi/bUDK8zMfbQorZ0ITbKLEtz85ThzFVD+zoGVIxfMNd4ZBoFFV62OxaAICH2 WK7cmj/B6yQfZP6SKh9LanpFo1J2RGszpV/iUCI2myJND1Z0uHFlg39d13myVrC0FuVeN8zWE 1W9FnxDJ76hZtgSLZtCoQtHtHWHqIvHflHfRdNIq4iy//W6rt33GXrGq1GW5HSvQ2CETJhCzD jM0lAroovJnZ/oLstLMDLCqsW4MMavsOkfEpLCQpKFXYbdK86pFSBJ6rSlRYZMOLdDO9dW/jz FRulEW39niGMO43HoxRjl4PqJ2jt9dALCymwvAhkvjbHfJuJChbhrbC3bEFd3CwhHQdo1tgwO pK5rQRh2LUO3xlj3OwZa8AY4JSuUxijjoWJqhBOGPAxro1rt8q9LR+Y2nzmcTtrVCmcmcSL1U o+iXAh5bfbStq0QC2MbTTVkghn/NzGM5iTLtZ+XJvgCPG+Bs18HKDVGBx2CB6/yurXU9ZXN4C 57CJwFLVpGn8OzIpZ6NbC1gc35LpIDnWp0dSCNZxK9JxfTr1rskbjutRAuSqs7/89bdPNoZIE YkwGxDTarys4xRihYg6N/HjmQIzfpLeECQZn20ftF9G9e1rqCAnjzM1/N0s= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:53:21 -0000 On 2016-08-16 13:42:30, Arthur Chance wrote: >> (...) > For comparison, the same processor under 10.2 (really must find time to > upgrade) > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (3997.77-MHz K8-class CPU) > > Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1998885348 Hz quality 1000 > > The only thing I can think of is that I don't have turbo mode enabled: > > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 4001/88000 4000/88000 3800/81704 etc... > dev.cpu.0.freq: 4000 > > What does "sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq" show on your machine? Varies, I'm not punishing the box atm, so it might be 3300, 1300, 1000, ... freq_levels is (under a -p4 kernel) dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 4001/88000 4000/88000 3800/81704 3500/72258 3300/66530 3100/60999 2900/55687 2600/48456 2400/43627 2200/39003 1900/32072 1700/27930 1500/23963 1300/20178 1000/15137 800/11779 for a p7 freq_levels / freq I'd need to reinstall a known (for me) bad upgrade again, and reboot, brr Waiting for further suggestions of data to collect and will do all in one go, when I'm done with work. Thanks & Regards, -Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 12:58:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8930CBBB9E1 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B6421C6A; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u7GCwaWu023219; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:58:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Followup: Losing time like crazy (1s short per 10s) To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816112002.GA3083@hephaistos.local> <20160816112714.GA1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816113933.GB1241@hephaistos.local> <20160816120454.GD1241@hephaistos.local> <1bd2abf2-0cf6-cb0f-c8ec-c9c73d683ed8@qeng-ho.org> <20160816125314.GE1241@hephaistos.local> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:58:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160816125314.GE1241@hephaistos.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:58:39 -0000 On 16/08/2016 13:53, Martin S. Weber wrote: > On 2016-08-16 13:42:30, Arthur Chance wrote: >>> (...) >> For comparison, the same processor under 10.2 (really must find time to >> upgrade) >> >> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (3997.77-MHz K8-class CPU) >> >> Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1998885348 Hz quality 1000 >> >> The only thing I can think of is that I don't have turbo mode enabled: >> >> dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 4001/88000 4000/88000 3800/81704 etc... >> dev.cpu.0.freq: 4000 >> >> What does "sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq" show on your machine? > > Varies, I'm not punishing the box atm, so it might be 3300, 1300, 1000, ... > > freq_levels is (under a -p4 kernel) > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 4001/88000 4000/88000 3800/81704 3500/72258 > 3300/66530 3100/60999 2900/55687 2600/48456 2400/43627 2200/39003 > 1900/32072 1700/27930 1500/23963 1300/20178 1000/15137 800/11779 > > for a p7 freq_levels / freq I'd need to reinstall a known (for me) > bad upgrade again, and reboot, brr Waiting for further suggestions > of data to collect and will do all in one go, when I'm done with > work. So that's one difference, you're running powerd (or equivalent) and my box just sits at 4 GHz. A possible clue for those who know the kernel better than me. -- Schrödinger's cat had 18 half lives. 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Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:40:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:40:28 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to print with hplip Message-ID: <20160816174028.088e2f7d@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:41:45 -0000 On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:54:59 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > I installed cups, added a queue for my HP Deskjet 1110 printer (USB) in > the cups web interface, and then installed hplip. Try removing it from the CUPS web interface and setup the printer with HP Device Manager. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 15:45:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAFCBBBF5C; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.sbone.de", Issuer "SBone.DE" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FB861213; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB38525D3899; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 045A7D1F8D0; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:44:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00Uh1rCwQN71; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.248.105.13] (fresh-tun0-ula.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:4920:2ef0:eeff:fe03:ee34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 401AAD1F8A3; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: krad Cc: "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , "Freebsd Questions" Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:44:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6048) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:45:02 -0000 On 16 Aug 2016, at 12:47, krad wrote: > is ipfilter supported in vnet jails? Last time I looked and tried pf > didnt > work (kernel panics), and only ipfw was supported. In 11-RC* it is present for all 3 firewalls; like VIMAGE due to memory footprint you might have to compile the firewall into the kernel rather than kldload it (especially ipfilter). /bz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 17:10:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE709BBC82A for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66DBD1CCF for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u7GHAePH036761; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Playing Blu-Ray Discs To: Jonathan Moore , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:10:53 -0000 On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 > or is this only in 11.0? > That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has cracked that yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 19:15:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FD2BBC55C for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C31B41462 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.11.23]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MOVST-1bWB4T29Kf-005rYt for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:15:48 +0200 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bZjq0-000N5V-0D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:15:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:15:47 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot ping6 inside jail Message-ID: <20160816191547.GA87631@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1XLsrwAQmmwh4aYPPoIEj+5ECkfdt3Pc/vay1mLZlsO8/Ggwz03 H3HnjqcNK4xrPrVbqoGUCTNDt9TKef4OGjpBRQbJW5woPzl0IVLJuEPO0bnmH8+0n5fy1Fm FIhDozDFI0Jeir3iNyIqrZUE/mITrmQlPgT6Ud7wNn4hBbfBN10Ml7Yvzs07igzSypoekwq 1I8ic0hIdDr68vtC17UxQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:2tGTORTamLs=:ryciJCQTanz0xVzhTIMlge HguwCidZRVVGca+vGpEoLWbj4+2A3HuTwHXkmqA6b8XFEF20IUH7t0Vg2qAL+7s+CEZBiqt+v t5oY0RjDfbbBlIuan/CEY1Pm4R3oyhYaykwmfyv1d+3Q5pBjV2IPkI/MQ9FQ32HoMJO8s7kuZ +beisQhcQF5iEY5AdKGCCZ0fcPFzDGF3FjPWii6sQHaWadMRj+8LolrYenfao2sEwP1gBkvbB 3wZKqFJuwLp25h/E3TajoUa9o7mgFkDXroOKPuRdxzjg7luM3oBWi/Jg5HUd9PDBbwz7shJOz qQjtMMKxjnGq59LGZ+OAg+gFTV7/OpACXD8HXsC0b27w6YbyktjZtjE7ztOef1YhEMY5BfpWG KMKbMOGQ+x13hCwld9nYIX7+8yRzwAV8qPw+21OALw7wHsHPiCvb4IwyTQ7SKOP4GI/I4wWzl yNF38Y7OlL6ePd/hDm+T4231ySeyGWhYZc7y9NYnanNmh4olHcgRcJp1gc6V8xfukls535F+Z /jT9d3BFVq1mygBjdADVftEgGc2ORho6Id8zRnsqtdQ2BFrTGv4mg+qdyZ5ob1feOiZmESe9j dK7JI9oyo24ITvRwQqN80KXZfkLIrkFR2i0poKL9LCSDMhLkGs+Kz8eF9JBxK+Ml7uf1RGPl5 0IGqRncBE7s9jvhmI8cJD/cmfnKVLvxP3IrPMGHtA5peOGtth2EpVWFNiLdxrkRjygfg= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:15:57 -0000 Hi, I couldn't find anything about this by Google or in the man pages. Inside a jail: # ping6 ::1 ping6: socket: Protocol not supported When I ask "ifconfig", there are no IPv6 adresses. What did I miss? Thanks in advance. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 19:47:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AD3BBC1C1 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D0A018B8 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b62so117232138iod.3 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:47:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jbB/PPpULUYEpxhqkS/oCi6ARzh69rYMEP3IsC3FwSs=; b=k3Ty9srr9xnqa4IywYGNNa6az0RKnGirw2Mvoi+Z4H+gY9PU+1EoQLwW458niPTbO+ lt0cItVRnqzes+OL4G3CCedA3/JGJeVg6vWmSTFipYKMovwgO1iP9YbvSxvA0xYf4JUi WBTT3rFTfsGAFFHfMfbr618MLwBZ53vCqlEq7E8LXtAV+/X07yx8cgBeZ/ItYPjMDb3u U2ZxulMGj2vfakUJSp1UszRz3OwXzM27/bfPowylelxbJyhLhQuLmhwkrYSFsYYREYRh J1IAZRxLrUBpU/PAFpgeNS8KAPODH4/tWjZ20ZbzTiOwosspUQqGmqEeN03XA09P/gZw B+qQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jbB/PPpULUYEpxhqkS/oCi6ARzh69rYMEP3IsC3FwSs=; b=ljIwY9TjtinftYrii0WkaYS/KKsyfwW9GIdDCmRbuzuynm8IOhfK9im9+rSw4qsR7q A5KmD28irpp2WhcmJ3i1VUPRqISJJGXeQoukJ8GdranSss+PkoyvZE2JCPEFW3pW9vJM 7Y+cLeOjZ7BRXUrqn89NqT1CCGt/JBQXvpL4wE7yEefVJelLVq0MBVOjjWID1vUot2sG a1ivukDcrsecjmROgdpUFz3c86fCEq7io7yEmkncD5JLutYBpMaWa5vrmSZkuVmwybDV JYc/jz7V6zbo98ZQ0+i0yY6h2ymBaPjTX+xpMGkGvoMgyQELHsjWFVXs5FHaUNSecr1x 2ymQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvH3eNjF+uD7b7KNaj5kBlcSrk6PktHlK7h2qY1G9mXouKgcnKAYcVPMilE7mDuYw== X-Received: by 10.107.152.149 with SMTP id a143mr42292503ioe.193.1471376838648; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-24-165-196-54.neo.res.rr.com. [24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o15sm13062432ith.2.2016.08.16.12.47.17 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B36DDB.9050506@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:47:39 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot ping6 inside jail References: <20160816191547.GA87631@becker.bs.l> In-Reply-To: <20160816191547.GA87631@becker.bs.l> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:47:19 -0000 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > I couldn't find anything about this by Google or in the man > pages. > > Inside a jail: > > # ping6 ::1 > ping6: socket: Protocol not supported > > When I ask "ifconfig", there are no IPv6 adresses. > > What did I miss? > > Thanks in advance. > > Bertram > > If your talking about issuing the ping command from within a non-vimage jail then its denied by design as a security risk. You have to enable allow.raw.sockets to get ping command to work. 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[24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n10sm3566542ith.18.2016.08.16.13.21.03 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:21:26 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" CC: krad , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:21:05 -0000 Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > In 11-RC* it is present for all 3 firewalls; like VIMAGE due to memory > footprint you might have to compile the firewall into the kernel rather > than kldload it (especially ipfilter). > > /bzvnet The 11.0-RC1 host has vimage and ipfilter compiled into the kernel. Vnet jail can ping public network. Host ipf log shows pings from vnet jail as they pass the host firewall on external interface using the ip address assigned to the vnet jail. Codding rules on the host firewall using the vnet jail's assigned ip address does work. But this is not what vimage literature says how vnet firewalls are suppose to work. Issuing "ipf -FS -Fa" command from within the vnet jail gives this message, "open device:no such file or directory. User kernel version check failed. Issuing "ipfstat -hnio command from within the vnet jail gives this message, open(IPSTATE_NAME):no such file or directory. Running the host on a kernel with just vimage compiled in gets same results as above. Only differences between 10.x systems and 11.0 is a vimage kernel no longer panics if the host is running ipfilter and the lost memory message at stopping a vimage jail is gone. Ipfilter does NOT start in a vimage jail. This is a major show stopper. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 20:45:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95BCBBB3A8 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A4CC116E for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.10.14]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ll1ub-1b1Wsw4B65-00amlR for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:45:40 +0200 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bZlEx-0000ZH-Hd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:45:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:45:39 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot ping6 inside jail Message-ID: <20160816204539.GA467@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816191547.GA87631@becker.bs.l> <57B36DDB.9050506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57B36DDB.9050506@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GIvNdzCzTk8+ZOeTZdIDTCUnrNqH/Q74WnPJzHB92H+uUGnOhpt ByU//DI9v8J4QAlSkJW54WGqsjeN8TUB8XXp6bJEISOF2H4cM4uvLq2xGvZtMB/mtAWOcGs pocK6vCY4OJMQ8rUEuAyogS7TY9Pr9nO0X8iGMpbRGYj01up1OCUVRWUd67oWmDLSS8XXx8 kWk2ySeSZgmQU35J4IvMw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:rz+n8FdVTLU=:zE6W1KkebDQX5NUfEj+tax ZSqrY3H6JILsg06DicyO+M/sUiBUG/sFuJZUUuRImHrXkTzBSuaZsyIFMo49RTmmEa+RrEeQb WOsr/cYjvEqncB6q+0dQzzvjax29o07UEgdj2z6WUWxjIClexMt2ahNW3PYqUGr2l+GbfuZMt OVyzIgVNPbQZ/oo6PtGDWoVrnjWY8I9JgQYnsA4VognY2anUO68byvYw9FX8W2miYRxqlD8KM EUvHgwkDIxtihwZbaODoK0LlcMCIZEQppTAfA3iJ1X6pGMMomN3LLpvgvMrX1VHpkLQps6WEA K6TW31qmZ9P9JPnrI11I7zCymQOhLoO6V65w4eP6U6YOIoLIAtplwA6RkCk87pZdQJGqG8ryr rmTGao3E3cdXBu1qgJqQohyHtBR67NvE8OsGYCcZKL/ffD3hSKIHvdjEZbEYitXD3DBWDrQ8v dyG8lnMdzSjIwgZXKiCDyWMGQvNB5HWayKw+AlGYWxuziC9qKvU6nwbmepK7Prl3gq6hER30p B2epn6n6RYJVnOUsW/ReZHSaRmI8jNwlCE7N7GE0hsqPvaHliQo6Fv/YR/0LmQ99u2N6mVtJy aICUEhrQaF7kZ5ZICDeG0aDk+UCaUU9INeOmcXH5EHtPqE2p71c3l1OkIFoEa9ByAXNtGjK8S 7tLTuHuq+ph0FtZh6jtlY/HycfKHeQNtmfH7rGMG+PB2p60/JVsKc8zWcWee/g0gwBl4= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:45:43 -0000 On Tuesday, 16. Aug 2016, 15:47:39 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > > > Inside a jail: > > > > # ping6 ::1 > > ping6: socket: Protocol not supported > > > > When I ask "ifconfig", there are no IPv6 adresses. > > > > What did I miss? > > If your talking about issuing the ping command from within a non-vimage > jail then its denied by design as a security risk. You have to enable > allow.raw.sockets to get ping command to work. I _had_ set "allow.raw_sockets = 1;" in "jail.conf". I say # sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1 # service jail restart myjail but still I see # ping6 ::1 ping6: socket: Protocol not supported and # ifconfig | grep inet6 | wc -l 0 and # telnet ::1 80 Trying ::1... telnet: socket: Protocol not supported Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 21:07:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B5EBBB931 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6FE51C83 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b62so119179948iod.3 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:07:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7/ERPuM0uxFbhDQKPDAXe5tZP8XOWYi9/QDKCxzmRSY=; b=qomQjz2fekRj0VGF3KMHwusHM2+zyNKJ4ereGbKZpJwxKSo/IqJ874+KzAJBt/fq3e 4/gCipDV5D7Sxt04fRQSJk9aK7+8hjJ019PPbz9lMkD319IMmsJ5qoeRXrds5o7znk3K 6JZZH3dCklxW8NPicGbjX/IlTivuseUqtok+ZggK7/HhmlSJPfq53kfHNshsQsOyyhl8 aYQZj4nty7MWlFXWP1Sph9oXySFtDu8xWl9ywkYGovkzi50a/cEnJqqjXxhoNV9lVaj3 jmnzu2ZNdVOqpdaRAtv0iwi578QwVj1jh5bxJnVXP4eAeh9mvs1vTvMJlDNLpdFDS+rd PgrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7/ERPuM0uxFbhDQKPDAXe5tZP8XOWYi9/QDKCxzmRSY=; b=e1qZvu1pagUz5DS8xm6o+0k1XGfoKac8ywOyzeWJ/aPkkt5tT6L/MoxtOgW+3DYpx4 85Ac528DrhP46MxR9UXUhyJ7U+eG4pslje4nyrECa7dJHst6DnhkiHfCAVUFMciNfh5h 7saESuQYnUcPNzsVV6tlsiAmcpZIPhipFTdXZaDNzwoMJnb32W7V31mWuEFSVCwWTHqF xWYccwQKark/w3q/7Kz+fxYj9LEVyJP6uqEs+721sjqebDKqs9YjQk0qoY826OB5+1Lm GX/yv8jp8+DK5uf6CXpR0BFsAENQPAhHxKACrG8SajmuHtypK3nJQJLCiaodxpxNIFBf c/XA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoout8k5PyAbr79vIhbF+Y75/WsGW1v5CU68MvdhA+zEhW+n6tBLBqCrtCRC1NSZ41OA== X-Received: by 10.107.178.201 with SMTP id b192mr46949471iof.44.1471381634123; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-24-165-196-54.neo.res.rr.com. [24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e6sm948563ith.0.2016.08.16.14.07.13 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B3809A.5090003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:07:38 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot ping6 inside jail References: <20160816191547.GA87631@becker.bs.l> <57B36DDB.9050506@gmail.com> <20160816204539.GA467@becker.bs.l> In-Reply-To: <20160816204539.GA467@becker.bs.l> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:07:15 -0000 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Tuesday, 16. Aug 2016, 15:47:39 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Bertram Scharpf wrote: >>> Inside a jail: >>> >>> # ping6 ::1 >>> ping6: socket: Protocol not supported >>> >>> When I ask "ifconfig", there are no IPv6 adresses. >>> >>> What did I miss? >> If your talking about issuing the ping command from within a non-vimage >> jail then its denied by design as a security risk. You have to enable >> allow.raw.sockets to get ping command to work. > > I _had_ set "allow.raw_sockets = 1;" in "jail.conf". > > I say > > # sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1 > # service jail restart myjail > > but still I see > > # ping6 ::1 > ping6: socket: Protocol not supported > > and > > # ifconfig | grep inet6 | wc -l > 0 > > and > > # telnet ::1 80 > Trying ::1... > telnet: socket: Protocol not supported > > Bertram > > Verify that regular ping works. Ping -c 4 8.8.8.8 Are you running a custom kernel where ipv6 support is removed? What RELEASE version of FreeBSD are you running? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 21:17:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB138BBBBFD; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mail.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [216.226.128.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA7014ED; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (vitani.den.cyberleo.net [216.80.73.130]) by mail.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D362443097; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter To: Ernie Luzar , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , Freebsd Questions , krad From: CyberLeo Kitsana Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:08:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:17:12 -0000 On 08/16/2016 03:21 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Issuing "ipf -FS -Fa" command from within the vnet jail gives this > message, "open device:no such file or directory. User kernel version > check failed. According to ipf(8), the ipfilter utilities touch /dev/ipauth , /dev/ipl , and /dev/ipstate . Have you checked that the devfs ruleset applied to your jail has those unhidden? > Issuing "ipfstat -hnio command from within the vnet jail gives this > message, open(IPSTATE_NAME):no such file or directory. ipfstat(8) also lists /dev/kmem ; I suspect that including this may be a bad idea. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 23:21:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE424BBCF28; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.sbone.de", Issuer "SBone.DE" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FE4511A4; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B40D25D387C; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEDA8D1F8C1; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2f9eSN9SGq0x; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.111.64.116] (unknown [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:4410:8df0:8af8:fda2:61f3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67B89D1F814; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:33 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: "CyberLeo Kitsana" Cc: "Ernie Luzar" , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , "Freebsd Questions" , krad , "James Gritton" Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:31 +0000 Message-ID: <89E52542-8E6B-4BA6-921E-E939A3F3A038@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6048) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:30:48 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:21:40 -0000 On 16 Aug 2016, at 21:08, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 08/16/2016 03:21 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> Issuing "ipf -FS -Fa" command from within the vnet jail gives this >> message, "open device:no such file or directory. User kernel version >> check failed. > > According to ipf(8), the ipfilter utilities touch /dev/ipauth , > /dev/ipl > , and /dev/ipstate . Have you checked that the devfs ruleset applied > to > your jail has those unhidden? > >> Issuing "ipfstat -hnio command from within the vnet jail gives this >> message, open(IPSTATE_NAME):no such file or directory. > > ipfstat(8) also lists /dev/kmem ; I suspect that including this may be > a > bad idea. /dev/kmem is a bad idea; I should go and check what it is using it for and if needed we should fix that. I guess the general thing is that we might want to create another default set of devfs rules which include additional nodes we now consider safe inside VNET jails; the jail.conf still needs to know the right ruleset to apply, so the jail.conf would need to specify the other devfs_ruleset=“..” for vnet jails. Maybe Jamie could then come up with an intelligent solution that would automagically flip things if option vnet is set? 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Zeeb" CC: CyberLeo Kitsana , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , Freebsd Questions , krad , James Gritton Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> <89E52542-8E6B-4BA6-921E-E939A3F3A038@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <89E52542-8E6B-4BA6-921E-E939A3F3A038@lists.zabbadoz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:17:23 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:04:56 -0000 Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 16 Aug 2016, at 21:08, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> On 08/16/2016 03:21 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> >>> Issuing "ipf -FS -Fa" command from within the vnet jail gives this >>> message, "open device:no such file or directory. User kernel version >>> check failed. >> >> According to ipf(8), the ipfilter utilities touch /dev/ipauth , /dev/ipl >> , and /dev/ipstate . Have you checked that the devfs ruleset applied to >> your jail has those unhidden? >> >>> Issuing "ipfstat -hnio command from within the vnet jail gives this >>> message, open(IPSTATE_NAME):no such file or directory. >> >> ipfstat(8) also lists /dev/kmem ; I suspect that including this may be a >> bad idea. > > /dev/kmem is a bad idea; I should go and check what it is using it for > and if needed we should fix that. > > > I guess the general thing is that we might want to create another > default set of devfs rules which include additional nodes we now > consider safe inside VNET jails; the jail.conf still needs to know the > right ruleset to apply, so the jail.conf would need to specify the other > devfs_ruleset=“..” for vnet jails. Maybe Jamie could then come up with > an intelligent solution that would automatically flip things if option > vnet is set? I guess jail.conf(5) will need more examples for these > things as well. > > > /bz > If thats the road you are thinking of going down, then we have to look at the big picture. Is another rule set say number 5 that includes rule set number 4 plus the nodes for ipfilter, pf, and ipfw. Or maybe a separate rule set for each firewall which is more secure. There is no way jail(8) could know which firewall if any was going to be run in the vnet jail to select the correct rule if there were separate rules for each firewall. A combined rule set containing everything needed for all 3 firewalls would be something jail(8) could auto default to if vnet option was coded. In light of 11.0 release being published soon there should be something posted to the release notes talking about this with sample code for a combined rule #5. This would give vnet users a copy & paste solution to use until jail(8) gets updated in 11.1. I tried this rule set in /etc/devfs.rules [devfsrules_jail=5] add include $devfsrules_jail add path /dev/ipl unhide add path /dev/ipauth unhide add path /dev/ipstate unhide Boot time get error message that this was invalid. If I could get a correct syntax combined rule #5 file, I could continue testing all 3 firewalls using 11.0-RC1. Your help would be greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 01:36:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4442BBC83A for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from mail.kc8onw.net (kc8onw.net [206.55.216.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B78B1A6A for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from [10.70.3.102] (99-55-193-152.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net [99.55.193.152]) by mail.kc8onw.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE5C636C4 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:31:14 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Stewart Subject: Lexar flash drive dead? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:31:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:36:35 -0000 (Please CC me as I'm not subscribed right now) I have a Lexar USB3 128GB flash drive that has quit working. I get the following on the console and in dmesg when I plug the drive in, is there any hope other than a professional recovery company for this drive? On a Windows machine it does some kind of disconnect/reconnect loop but just triggers the text below on FreeBSD. ugen1.3: at usbus1 umass0: on usbus1 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 umass0:9:0:-1: Attached to scbus9 da4 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 da4: Removable Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device da4: Serial Number AAUAYQ9QH3OH4ONS da4: 40.000MB/s transfers da4: 122104MB (250068992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15566C) da4: quirks=0x2 (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 0e e7 bf fe 00 00 01 00 (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 0e e7 bf ff 00 00 01 00 (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 00 (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 01:49:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C60DBBCB97 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from COL004-OMC1S15.hotmail.com (col004-omc1s15.hotmail.com [65.55.34.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 380491EC9 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.34.9]) by COL004-OMC1S15.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:48:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=JY7CFelRz5noQ3qgD0xMah9+GI91MMzXkIANO4jdvOE=; b=il3ZVe6TZfMhAxhLoIz7uW8QuC7kg0nVRiXvbhmq9FXSno2/5Hof0do0fCPV9imq8iIx0B5UmfpG44RXAWMdhszndUrjP+UkBO8VyAzq6YpO8RHOMsSWxcCzwoz2thrrslQ1cRmwoHPKEEz336Yw92f/LE3zpIXqXJXHlUuuW/yAuRPk1DPE7OGUzOdL2Prq+B8KJBLOjIexuKAaIDQe13X6K5J0S/ynwrMBH5H81b9ovO31KCPOnf9iV2tLiLGDgpkoryRY4WLD1OGxNfvVXV+vQMQl8nMDurMmw5yy9EHmN2NPNwZrkmRbWe9lzdxij3LpeimBXIOqRalW51qWhQ== Received: from HE1EUR01FT059.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.0.58) by HE1EUR01HT097.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.1.57) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_0, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA_P384) id 15.1.577.8; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:47:59 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.152.0.53) by HE1EUR01FT059.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.0.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.577.8 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:47:59 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) by VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) with mapi id 15.01.0549.027; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:47:57 +0000 From: Manish Jain To: Matthew Macy CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Any chance for ATI Radeon 8470 HD graphics ? 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Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmacy@nextbsd.org) Received: from sender163-mail.zoho.com (sender163-mail.zoho.com [74.201.84.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B7B81CAB for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmacy@nextbsd.org) Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1471399395770600.4780871456195; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:03:15 -0700 From: Matthew Macy To: "Manish Jain" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <156963d0171.ff86a6da332445.6642182102591620790@nextbsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <15686428786.10af5398f142319.7100122471836056990@nextbsd.org> <15686971b22.110f0f7cd143003.6829482450944171504@nextbsd.org> Subject: Re: Any chance for ATI Radeon 8470 HD graphics ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:03:19 -0000 ---- On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:47:57 -0700 Manish Jain wrote ---- > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Matthew Macy wrote: > It's certainly worth a try. And it's most likely to work if driven by someone with a dog in that fight. > > I have never a run a mail server or a web server, but am willing to get my hands dirty to get a mailing list and hardware compatibility website running for freebsd. > As for your idea about trying PC-BSD, it was a good idea. I tried it, but PC-BSD is still not in sync with FreeBSD to the extent I could have stayed with it. I had serious problems with pkg - hundreds of warnings crop up when trying to install packages, because some packages want version 1.6.1 while, some others want 1.6.4, while FreeBSD version of pkg is 1.8.7. It looks to me like PC-BSD packages are fairly downstream, probably from FreeBSD 10.0. I was even willing to delete everything with pkg delete -a, and build everything from sources if needed. But one final straw remained - radeon driver under PC-BSD is essentially as downstream as FreeBSD. Gnome craps out entirely with streaks and missing text/icons. But KDE mostly works (except for glitches under thunderbird , chrome and KDE special effects called desktop effects). Video playback under KDE smplayer is perfect. > That gave me this idea - return to FreeBSD with dual desktop environments. I now run Gnome under the vesa driver, and when I need to play videos, I reboot into KDE with the radeon driver. This works like a charm. Under Gnome, I can even run virtaulbox with graphics running smoothly under my Windows XP (32 bit) vm. All in all, I have managed to achieve what I set out as a target - only FreeBSD as the physical machine. > For the same of experimentation, I copied out PC-BSD's /boot/kernel/radeon* driver files, and replaced my FreeBSD files with those. This does not have any positive/adverse effect. > I am left with one more reinstallation task. When FreeBSD radeon becomes upstream, I will reinstall FreeBSD. Would a fresh installation be absolutely essential, or can I try just replacing /boot/kernel/radeon* files ? If you/someone can give me an experimental version of an upstream radeon driver, I can try out those and report back results. > Thanks for your help. Manish Jain I can't comment on the installation issue. The radeon and amdgpu drivers in drm-next do not work at this moment. I will post to -x11 and -current when they work well enough that users should be trying them. -M From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 04:19:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1448CBBC735 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 04:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY004-OMC4S22.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s22.hotmail.com [65.54.190.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DABF61966 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 04:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-VE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.200]) by BAY004-OMC4S22.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); 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K3b did not find any optical device in your system As root, I chown'ed /dev/pci to 664 after which lspci (as non-root)=20 outputs the right pci configuration, but k3b keeps giving the same error. As root, I am able to burn CD with cdrecord, but I wish to use k3b for=20 future CD/DVD projects. Thanks for any help. 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charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:53:39 -0000 On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 > > or is this only in 11.0? > > > That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. > > HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has > cracked that yet. It's forbidden to publish any work about craking HDCP. All I can say it's not harder than older methods. The solution, don't buy BlueRay to break off the product market. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 09:42:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9272BBD523 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay114.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay114.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 505951553 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2DMBADrL7RX/9SdgG1VCYNESYEJp2GFK?= =?us-ascii?q?owsgX2GHQKBYjkUAgEBAQEBAQFeJ4ReAQEEATocIwULCw4KCSUPKh4GE4gXAw8?= =?us-ascii?q?MvyQBAQEBAQUBAQEBI4p3gkOBVoYCAQSZEDSMW4I4cYEEiA6FT4gxhAiDeB42g?= =?us-ascii?q?3w6MoZhAQEB?= Received: from 212.157-128-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([109.128.157.212]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2016 11:41:04 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u7H9f3ss026611; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:41:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:41:02 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unable to run k3b Message-ID: <20160817114102.74681d4e@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:42:21 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 04:38:37 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > I managed to get k3b working by restarting devfs after adding the > following to devfs.conf : > > own /dev/pass0 root:operator > perm /dev/pass0 0660 This is probably your hard disk so you shouldn't need this. You can check by running 'camcontrol devlist'. > own /dev/pass1 root:operator > perm /dev/pass1 0660 > > own /dev/xpt0 root:operator > perm /dev/xpt0 0660 These are probably fine, but you may want to use a different group than operator. When you add users to group operator you make them rather powerful. They have full read access to every disk (via /dev/ada*) for instance. It is better to create a separate group. > own /dev/pci root:operator > perm /dev/pci 0664 This one is probably not needed either. To burn a cd you may need write access to /dev/cd0: own /dev/cd0 root:operator perm /dev/cd0 0660 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 09:42:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097C4BBD59E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CE7F1656 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u7H9gjC4039157; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:42:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Playing Blu-Ray Discs To: Eduardo Morras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160817105110.588f2bd318cee357fc1e7f7e@yahoo.es> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:42:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160817105110.588f2bd318cee357fc1e7f7e@yahoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:42:52 -0000 On 2016-08-17 10:51, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 >>> or is this only in 11.0? >>> >> That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. >> >> HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has >> cracked that yet. > It's forbidden to publish any work about craking HDCP. No, it is not forbidden to publish any crack for HDCP. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Blu-ray-HDMI-HDCP-Digilent-FPGA,14105.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 10:04:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FA1BBDB84 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC4S48.hotmail.com (snt004-omc4s48.hotmail.com [65.54.51.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B90613B4; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-DB5-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.90.200]) by SNT004-OMC4S48.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:04:55 -0000 There is nothing on there that tells you the detail of how it was done, so its just skirting around the laws like dmca On 17 August 2016 at 10:42, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-08-17 10:51, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 >> Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 >>>> or is this only in 11.0? >>>> >>>> That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. >>> >>> HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has >>> cracked that yet. >>> >> It's forbidden to publish any work about craking HDCP. >> > No, it is not forbidden to publish any crack for HDCP. > > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Blu-ray-HDMI-HDCP-Digilent- > FPGA,14105.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 10:15:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94780BBC036 for ; 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charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:15:48 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:42:45 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-08-17 10:51, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 > > Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > >> On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 > >>> or is this only in 11.0? > >>> > >> That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. > >> > >> HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has > >> cracked that yet. > > It's forbidden to publish any work about craking HDCP. > No, it is not forbidden to publish any crack for HDCP. > > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Blu-ray-HDMI-HDCP-Digilent-FPGA,14105.html You're semi-right, it's in USA and associates under DMCA where you can be sued, but EU and others not because on EU, it's "fair use" and allows competence be compatible. Again, no global answer. https://www.wired.com/2010/09/intel-threatens-consumers/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/warner-bros-sues-hd-fury-over-boxes-that-can-copy-4k-video/ --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 07:22:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D825BBB632; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 07:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 338BC13A9; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 07:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2276C6E0081; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u7H7Mjd4014879; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id u7H7Mi0j013011; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:22:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:22:44 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , CyberLeo Kitsana , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , Freebsd Questions , James Gritton , krad Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter Message-ID: <20160817072244.GO18643@e-new.0x20.net> References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> <89E52542-8E6B-4BA6-921E-E939A3F3A038@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B3B858.4000707@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57B3B858.4000707@gmail.com> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:05:02 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 07:22:49 -0000 --f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:05:28PM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > On 16 Aug 2016, at 21:08, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >=20 > >> On 08/16/2016 03:21 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> > >>> Issuing "ipf -FS -Fa" command from within the vnet jail gives this > >>> message, "open device:no such file or directory. User kernel version > >>> check failed. > >> > >> According to ipf(8), the ipfilter utilities touch /dev/ipauth , /dev/i= pl > >> , and /dev/ipstate . Have you checked that the devfs ruleset applied to > >> your jail has those unhidden? > >> > >>> Issuing "ipfstat -hnio command from within the vnet jail gives this > >>> message, open(IPSTATE_NAME):no such file or directory. > >> > >> ipfstat(8) also lists /dev/kmem ; I suspect that including this may be= a > >> bad idea. > >=20 > > /dev/kmem is a bad idea; I should go and check what it is using it for= =20 > > and if needed we should fix that. > >=20 > >=20 > > I guess the general thing is that we might want to create another=20 > > default set of devfs rules which include additional nodes we now=20 > > consider safe inside VNET jails; the jail.conf still needs to know the= =20 > > right ruleset to apply, so the jail.conf would need to specify the othe= r=20 > > devfs_ruleset=3D=E2=80=9C..=E2=80=9D for vnet jails. Maybe Jamie could= then come up with=20 > > an intelligent solution that would automatically flip things if option= =20 > > vnet is set? I guess jail.conf(5) will need more examples for these= =20 > > things as well. > >=20 > >=20 > > /bz > >=20 >=20 > If thats the road you are thinking of going down, then we have to look=20 > at the big picture. Is another rule set say number 5 that includes rule= =20 > set number 4 plus the nodes for ipfilter, pf, and ipfw. Or maybe a=20 > separate rule set for each firewall which is more secure. >=20 > There is no way jail(8) could know which firewall if any was going to be= =20 > run in the vnet jail to select the correct rule if there were separate=20 > rules for each firewall. A combined rule set containing everything=20 > needed for all 3 firewalls would be something jail(8) could auto default= =20 > to if vnet option was coded. >=20 > In light of 11.0 release being published soon there should be something= =20 > posted to the release notes talking about this with sample code for a=20 > combined rule #5. This would give vnet users a copy & paste solution to= =20 > use until jail(8) gets updated in 11.1. >=20 > I tried this rule set in /etc/devfs.rules >=20 > [devfsrules_jail=3D5] > add include $devfsrules_jail > add path /dev/ipl unhide > add path /dev/ipauth unhide > add path /dev/ipstate unhide I think you have to remove '/dev/' >=20 > Boot time get error message that this was invalid. >=20 > If I could get a correct syntax combined rule #5 file, I could continue= =20 > testing all 3 firewalls using 11.0-RC1. >=20 > Your help would be greatly appreciated. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJXtBDEXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1t17IH/RN4z88uvgE1bZr4DsDYS1We LMfGoKzqJKW5tcWdpwBENXo3N03ZF1HrwZntdeklDG2GZz27uVhgsW9W2Gk5qYwl PL9BCfzSrJPOeU4M0soojIioGFqrTMBdZgjOdz/pjMMaXKz+PlpBFNoPCZeRVY+o haq790satiGhymUGkMFzv48ckle7xRUbVwvfE8fxSoFJE8LD/FnBXLddUq1EfPXy gd16CvI3SSnrZsXKWZhRy9k5CgJ+wikqBXz57pFpImQZTU23Hxu54cVZ+k+8wv/y k+ikar/FoCRdjd04nHFOedWIq2nuovsCP2E5noDfxnrn+c9x+Vu1uIasoLpnfqg= =OR/x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 11:07:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7D2BBB38A for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6795812B3 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.10.14]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MA0ZU-1bTQB92zoe-00B72z for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:06:51 +0200 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bZygN-0003yI-9K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:06:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:06:51 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot ping6 inside jail Message-ID: <20160817110651.GA15116@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160816191547.GA87631@becker.bs.l> <57B36DDB.9050506@gmail.com> <20160816204539.GA467@becker.bs.l> <57B3809A.5090003@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57B3809A.5090003@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Kc7yrdItwoz2td45WsQzDga9fd35tif2V/B3/gMhax6V9VTnR/Z 00mkweqTfP1ZbSwR8qEaBuh05IHaO+I8dq5stzd4+c+YSkb8YPpcEA9XwgZPa/hOKYKI6EE OIn06KgWbQdF2C2aaTgqWFMjqOkSnAXP6BacAeyqjBg6QnziHPqNGxn+r2dIp/I//PNIqNE nPnk1IIG79XXa/zEi/rrw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:LFWkjbTrrf4=:Gxfapbi0Yu3kC8JNxCUuSR 9zY2kSHfSixA2KYCM2IjlOfLEpKJGRzrzrQvOWiETmxdSeGysBHVdblOI1tke2XNIIpHoLDz/ 3z8bRtRTCn4idYoyIftwFCTsyHExCsDMspjRWgyE8zGPc/MISkkpEQJX3bqsSnMfY2SJT12w4 E3LsXCjFwcFvkrFMn0GB80zqjYCo+tcwBqXCD0JXeC+w8bWXqod3twcSRinOOLckyZW5pA2Ko FTJ3lVIxGP3xGbfL80djQq2lmrdDWSbTaLV2P8rS/se2FZg1F0qVey6kbrBTBL6VnLuu+n4tX EK20erhlsn/zFuTOpOKQ3mDEt96DsGzqI+M20Uk0TbKWc3HFL7rgAs4tEOVZH4MktEFn/tHT7 mB3biWEVmrLEf3onFOYhaqJZ/QR0KH03Jbq02AJUqaHRMpPSLQHHGbP73dSGRpFZkEt1KGyYl 5lxt201dsWYWsojvnV+b9JyIw6xwkgui3XiFBSLh0A5WK9ifiVhRXeWWkRsb6p3dIvqc9XE0K +EKRf+lpdLhhBTwTXV+oIpq5AO9p32fGcDe7BfAVNM+A+IHa6XhrwJMt0d/AZHTnwE9eaFN6k wg2R4xUIYD3Xk7whcXOg1EpY/pjtWNQ563QKG+mg2XLQS8w+pYlTgIXhNt3bPTxkItKIzTRTI 4Zv6U7BUAbkNTuOV+Lq0Cbvo4IU56LIL9pybA2DsJYPW0HxRYBRTixzqeQA4N+lnK7CA= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:07:01 -0000 On Tuesday, 16. Aug 2016, 17:07:38 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > On Tuesday, 16. Aug 2016, 15:47:39 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> Bertram Scharpf wrote: > >>> Inside a jail: > >>> > >>> # ping6 ::1 > >>> ping6: socket: Protocol not supported > >>> > >>> When I ask "ifconfig", there are no IPv6 adresses. > >>> > >>> What did I miss? > > Verify that regular ping works. > Ping -c 4 8.8.8.8 I did verify that before I posted the question. > Are you running a custom kernel where ipv6 support is removed? Outside the jail the ping6 works perfectly. > What RELEASE version of FreeBSD are you running? FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 90279c2(tweaks/10): Tue Jul 19 23:44:18 CEST 2016 i386 Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 11:18:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0637BBBB19 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay108.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay108.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 571691B1B for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2D/BABNR7RX/9SdgG1VCYNDSYEJp2GFK?= =?us-ascii?q?owsgX2GHQKBYTkUAgEBAQEBAQFeJ4ReAQEEATocIwULCw4KCSUPKh4GE4gXAw8?= =?us-ascii?q?MvlwBAQEBAQUBAQEBI4p3gkOBVoYCAQSZEDSMXII4cY5iiDOECIN4HjaCEhyBT?= =?us-ascii?q?joyhnQBAQE?= Received: from 212.157-128-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([109.128.157.212]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2016 13:18:20 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u7HBIJg4027433; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:18:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:18:19 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unable to run k3b Message-ID: <20160817131819.3fa6b6ca@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20160817114102.74681d4e@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:18:25 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:03:01 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >>> own /dev/pci root:operator perm /dev/pci 0664 >> This one is probably not needed either. To burn a cd you may need write >> access to /dev/cd0: > If I don't add the lines above, I am not able to run lspci as a normal > user. I think that is a signifiant enough consideration. The first > Google search results for 'k3b no optical device' returned a link which > suggested running lspci as the first step to resolving the problem. I know lspci only as a Linux command so where did you get a FreeBSD lspci command? Normally you would run 'pciconf -l' on FreeBSD. A CDROM drive is not a PCI device though. It's an ATA or SCSI (or USB) device which can be listed using 'camcontrol devlist' on FreeBSD. > As for /dev/cd0, I wonder how I managed to burn a CD in k3b when I did > not have not write access as mentioned in devfs.conf. Might have > delegated powers via /dev/pci ? Hmm, maybe write access is no longer needed. It's been many years since I last burned a CD. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 11:34:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64B2BBC171 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01062155B for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u7HBYKMx040059; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:34:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:34:19 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jonathan Stewart cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160817210437.M79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:34:32 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 637, Issue 3, Message: 20 On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:31:12 -040 Jonathan Stewart wrote: > (Please CC me as I'm not subscribed right now) And please cc me on any reply; I take the -digest. > I have a Lexar USB3 128GB flash drive that has quit working. I get the > following on the console and in dmesg when I plug the drive in, is there > any hope other than a professional recovery company for this drive? On a > Windows machine it does some kind of disconnect/reconnect loop but just > triggers the text below on FreeBSD. Have you tried it on other FreeBSD boxes too? > ugen1.3: at usbus1 > umass0: on usbus1 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 > umass0:9:0:-1: Attached to scbus9 > da4 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 > da4: Removable Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device > da4: Serial Number AAUAYQ9QH3OH4ONS > da4: 40.000MB/s transfers > da4: 122104MB (250068992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15566C) > da4: quirks=0x2 > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 0e e7 bf fe 00 00 01 00 > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 0e e7 bf ff 00 00 01 00 > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 00 > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error When that's finished logging, does /dev/da4 still exist? If not, I don't know. 'Medium not present' looks pretty serious. But if so, you may be able to recover most of its contents, less any bad blocks (which will be replaced by NUL bytes), using something like: # dd if=/dev/da4 of=recovered.img conv=noerror,sync bs=512 A blocksize of 512 bytes may be overkill, and it will be slow, but will ensure that any recoverable sectors are recovered. Being flash, actual block size is almost certainly larger, but 512 is safest, and what the drive reported above. If that does work, you may be able to mount it with something like: # unit=`mdconfig -f recovered.img` # mount -t $whatevertypeitis /dev/${unit} /mnt Depending on whether filesystem metadata is good enough to use .. Some others here will know more, and/or know better, I expect. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 12:07:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC37BBD416 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from COL004-OMC3S15.hotmail.com (col004-omc3s15.hotmail.com [65.55.34.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EF0F1C07 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.34.136]) by COL004-OMC3S15.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:07:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Message-ID: <20160817130943.6c2315df@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:09:50 -0000 On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:31:12 -0400 Jonathan Stewart wrote: > (Please CC me as I'm not subscribed right now) > I have a Lexar USB3 128GB flash drive that has quit working. I get > the following on the console If you haven't already tried try swapping the connectors around using a different connector on a different motherboard socket. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 12:11:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150B3BBD5EE for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9267F11CF for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id q128so195393535wma.1 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gOueBjLilCQwDph51kku9lxWJZJ1BXsCvII/evu0BDo=; b=r8TJ7ItuqmzSU7nT9himD0+IHdzONbe4haN9RRIeI9zqX6TaLDstz1Rd/WbvJ/evFI 5nMN92G1laTSorGtqznZj1JpTM+QQZY21m1MlVgfr/7j77sM8Fshgaz53KYIlhMHXcuo JOOZye/hHlJ4KChsuP9SaADuz/zFJ3oCbd0rFBfeyrUOD0Z1PldA/0zMwClWY49eIYzX /Io4y8st3NH82YlqwYMZ9VkHXFMOz6WR5La7zzACpPuQ858GbNeLTp9bOmns5T2mKRpw EYF2vVJQ7CkGxAuwjtFpeaZ2ybt3UeWQZNHr4HtoyxnvS/XCOzL3TOI9+LJBnu6isvHO Zb0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gOueBjLilCQwDph51kku9lxWJZJ1BXsCvII/evu0BDo=; b=X+be7KBpx6NNWeLwE1LrzMCjtVVnjmmtNpmwDdAA9fB77AibAPPiHDG3RKgIQrdkvr 4y700COdflAteDv8iQToIOALD+3m4gBaLXbQKWO25c1w/bE4uA1dlaDb2cDzn9hEVCcq 1HfWS+mI1FcYHcWqImb5fZMa0ZHg084LtGsKDVL6MuJfAmdYE4A6BA1ybK+21x7HmSzM I4GvlSfZGDJobRwy8Ud4l/oe0Sc2cfAdzoSxhdHQSnkP4qAzZkZfsgCBszq7FPT85Dxt OsvAQ855VWjlqPWUtpItE5fQMljS63irNFV+kueM3XSGV6pZ6hpwxQHnO3SQ0qGWQDDO yjXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutLJWNeTlo0+OK94HuGOTx4RBvK/+QMMouacFuwKIZ3tommdhAqFQc/7PBpYcpIEQ== X-Received: by 10.194.62.70 with SMTP id w6mr47645115wjr.130.1471435902713; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.171.97.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u72sm26374990wmf.5.2016.08.17.05.11.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:11:38 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? Message-ID: <20160817131138.1775b70f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20160817130943.6c2315df@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20160817130943.6c2315df@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:11:45 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:09:43 +0100 RW wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:31:12 -0400 > Jonathan Stewart wrote: > > > (Please CC me as I'm not subscribed right now) > > I have a Lexar USB3 128GB flash drive that has quit working. I get > > the following on the console > > > If you haven't already tried try swapping the connectors around using > a different connector on a different motherboard socket. Sorry I missed the USB bit. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 13:24:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319B3BBDCF5 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from mail.skysmurf.nl (spectrum.skysmurf.nl [83.162.175.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.skysmurf.nl", Issuer "mail.skysmurf.nl" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 851A01EA3 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (mail.skysmurf.nl [192.168.42.4]) by mail.skysmurf.nl (8.15.2/8.15.2) with SMTP id u7HCw5IG057136; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:58:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:58:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:58:05 +0200 From: Alphons van Werven To: RW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jonathan@kc8onw.net Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? Message-ID: <20160817125805.GA56841@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <20160817130943.6c2315df@gumby.homeunix.com> <20160817131138.1775b70f@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160817131138.1775b70f@gumby.homeunix.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.skysmurf.nl/~fonz/fonz_pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:24:35 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RW via freebsd-questions wrote: ["re-CC'ed" OP] >> If you haven't already tried try swapping the connectors around using >> a different connector on a different motherboard socket.=20 >=20 > Sorry I missed the USB bit.=20 Nevertheless, if not already done so it might eliminate the possibility that the problem is with the computer the drive is connected to rather than the drive itself. Other than that, in my experience errors like these usually suggest that the drive itself is broken on the hardware level and cannot be rescued on a software level. Depending on exactly where the failure lies and whether that's a user-serviceable part (e.g. a connector or controller or some- thing), it *might* be possible to salvage the data by replacing the com- ponent in question with a "donor" component from a healthy drive of the same make and type--or at least a similar device with compatible com- ponents. However, this usually requires considerable expertise and even then USB drives in particular often don't have a whole lot of removable components in the first place. Fonz --=20 A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! 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Zeeb" To: "Ernie Luzar" Cc: "CyberLeo Kitsana" , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" , "Freebsd Questions" , krad , "James Gritton" Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:32:01 +0000 Message-ID: <8ED2CC0F-9254-4A91-A548-A97EBA02A962@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <57B3B858.4000707@gmail.com> References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> <89E52542-8E6B-4BA6-921E-E939A3F3A038@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B3B858.4000707@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6051) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:41:40 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:32:16 -0000 On 17 Aug 2016, at 1:05, Ernie Luzar wrote: > In light of 11.0 release being published soon there should be > something posted to the release notes talking about this with sample > code for a combined rule #5. This would give vnet users a copy & paste > solution to use until jail(8) gets updated in 11.1. VIMAGE is not a feature shipping by default in 11.0; I don’t see the point to put more details into the release notes than needed; we should figure out samples/man pages/wiki maybe/handbook though. 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[24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id b136sm45160iti.14.2016.08.17.08.28.41 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B482B4.8090708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:28:52 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger CC: CyberLeo Kitsana , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Freebsd Questions , krad , lars.engels@0x20.net Subject: Re: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with ipfilter References: <57B1E1BC.4090205@gmail.com> <078403E1-D8A3-4E52-B218-7A8B4400749A@lists.zabbadoz.net> <57B375C6.9030500@gmail.com> <20160817093615.Horde.6B4nFB_mNqhEm9nGwvdsXWg@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20160817093615.Horde.6B4nFB_mNqhEm9nGwvdsXWg@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:54:05 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:28:43 -0000 Here is my new rules file. I have tested it with the commented out lines and with the comments removed. Tested on vimage/ipfilter kernel and vimage only kernel. In all 4 combinations the "ipf" and "ipstat" commands work. I can see the ipf firewall rules. The problem is when issuing the ping command from within the vnet jail nothing happens. The count of packets shown by the ipstat command stay at zero. The var/log/messages in the vnet jail is not populated. The ipf.log on the host only has ipv6 multcast packets from when the vnet jail is started. No ipv4 ping packets. ipfilter in a vnet/vimage jail is broken. If anyone has suggestions to try let me know. [devfsrules_vjail_ipf=5] add include $devfsrules_jail add path ipl unhide add path ipl0 unhide add path ipf unhide add path ipauth unhide add path ipnat unhide add path ipstate unhide # used by ipstate #add path kmem unhide #add path kernel unhide # full list of ioctl used by ipf #add path SIOCIPFFB unhide #add path FIONREAD unhide #add path SIOCADDFR unhide #add path SIOCDELFR unhide #add path SIOCIPFFR unhide #add path SIOCADAFR unhide #add path SIOCRMAFR unhide #add path SIOCADIFR unhide #add path SIOCRMIFR unhide #add path SIOCINAFR unhide #add path SIOCINIFR unhide #add path SIOCSETFF unhide #add path SIOGGETFF unhide #add path SIOCGETFS unhide #add path SIOCIPFFL unhide #add path SIOCIPFFB unhide #add path SIOCSWAPA unhide #add path SIOCFRENB unhide #add path SIOCFRSYN unhide #add path SIOCFRZST unhide #add path SIOCZRLST unhide #add path SIOCAUTHW unhide #add path SIOCAUTHR unhide #add path SIOCATHST unhide From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 17:26:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ED8BBDFA8 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@stankevitz.com) Received: from mango.stankevitz.com (mango.stankevitz.com [208.79.93.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AFB15DD for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@stankevitz.com) Received: from Chriss-MacBook-Pro.local (ip70-185-178-207.sb.sd.cox.net [70.185.178.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mango.stankevitz.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F090682 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:17:05 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD Questions From: Chris Stankevitz Subject: Safe to buildworld/buildkernel 10.1 -> 10.3 (skip 10.2) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:17:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:26:38 -0000 Hi, Is it safe to upgrade directly from 10.1 to 10.3? My systems are not connected to the internet. I upgrade by sneaker-netting /usr/src and building world/kernel. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 17:49:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C67BBD4E1 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x236.google.com (mail-it0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 593DF1F18 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x236.google.com with SMTP id n128so62739446ith.1 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:49:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uznUK1Uamcm3wfnhzgWCi/Am3hS1/zbHytqH+9NVRjY=; b=ZSKnbwtqmD75hG2lygLgd2U8EmetIPyXo/FAl5jo2GOuKobNE3Ldt0JINewOZfzQkT 6Ddtu7k+47jZT1rmZwuSTBcNVlva0wTWyS4ctRRBXx06NWxiLy8x3NtbgNRqX3R5yGpU HousTaAt6edbyvtfKvVDbYFS670tapG8DvjZDdmrwbB6+btZGS7gullyiVzqDRG0c+83 BZWHj+j8+4CuVWOKhIhXwKpz9uY+7A1r5etIMC8m3X1aSGlg4JcQkOyffBGrhkA3AcVh TpBMJDok88ey8ZDJRg9eGmlZ/AoJq/jgB6BDy1QSZysjf44q42JLRaAj7th1fT30LgS8 o2TA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uznUK1Uamcm3wfnhzgWCi/Am3hS1/zbHytqH+9NVRjY=; b=VkiBzsNLA077MZpBCMmkMyT1eiuN8uI98QJDPyHSq4bDeJadNYli+gDo8oCX+ernbb RZRbyDH5T7Ope6u/ukhS1DTg5eyxXoFAWsQ/dAhYIW4MiG8os8ohlPFu3nP7G0a2SR7o pQojdEE4wSzyfjrDPlmv6mOcVwIHC5W45L3lgRMVwc+6Sv48TBz4Kv4kr+kp6doVy7Kq S1VMH+Ht2arFrMJ1wmjc8VyN3PXmGbxgAUZ6DrkD27ECvN2IKJ9AqgbNkbaLESwPitTC 9OZl6cX8e6boWjHEJVMHpPeZiLLGGqQoYmME98/GTsedCG+2SeOLI5vn0DBaqR7Yc2QD UBeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousHHAWtwSZfFfvDZfUTLUx2zIoxGMzfvjFvhcMIv7PHx2+xvnoXVfJ1+B7w1sbA3w== X-Received: by 10.36.116.193 with SMTP id o184mr1993177itc.14.1471456188625; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.4.3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j129sm420774itj.5.2016.08.17.10.49.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Playing Blu-Ray Discs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160817105110.588f2bd318cee357fc1e7f7e@yahoo.es> From: jd1008 Message-ID: <57B4A3AF.4060709@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:49:35 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160817105110.588f2bd318cee357fc1e7f7e@yahoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:49:49 -0000 On 08/17/2016 02:51 AM, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 >>> or is this only in 11.0? >>> >> That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. >> >> HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has >> cracked that yet. > It's forbidden to publish any work about craking HDCP. All I can say it's not harder than older methods. > > The solution, don't buy BlueRay to break off the product market. > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection >> Personally, the only good use I see for blueray is the large capacity backup in double layer BD-R media. They are not worth it for me for videos because DVD's are just fine. Some movies that are only avaialble on BD but not on DVD, you have to pay a higher price for. 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I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the previous=20 hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After installing the new=20 MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise (which resembles a bad=20 bearing turning furiously) has not gone away. The pitch has changed, but th= ere is an incessant noise which becomes pretty irritating after some time sitti= ng=20 next to the PC. The noise is most pronounced as I hover and move among the categories in=20 the gnome3 Applications menu. I have no idea whether this has anything to d= o=20 with Radeon HD 8470D onboard graphics chip, which is currently unsupported= =20 on FreeBSD and has to be driven with the vesa driver. But it is a=20 possibility because, as far as I remember, the noise was not present when=20 I was running Windows XP with the correct official graphics driver. If the= =20 noise is related to graphics, then quite likely the source would be the=20 RAM modules - my system's video RAM comes from the main RAM. Other possibilities include the power supply unit and the cables. I am=20 currently ruling out the MB, CPU and CPU fan because all of them are brand= =20 new. I suppose the hard disk can also be ruled out it is a solid state=20 disk purchased just 2 months back. Except for the mouse, all USB devices=20 too can be ruled too because I disconnected all USB peripherals (bar=20 the mouse, for which I changed the port from backside to front) and the=20 noise keeps coming unabated. Anyone who can help my identify the root cause would do an immense favour.= =20 Short of buying a new computer, I am perfectly willing to spend some money= =20 for new hardware that could put a fullstop to this messy noise. If the=20 noise is deemed to be from RAM, would installing a separate graphics card=20 solve the issue ? Suggestions are most welcome. Thanks for any help. Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 20:37:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C121BBD19E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F9281226 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-122-5.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.122.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AB9F3F836 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57B4CAFF.8030206@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:37:19 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:37:31 -0000 > CPU fan RAM What is a "CPU fan ram"? Do you mean you also swapped the RAM, or you put a fan on your RAM for some reason....? >the high-pitched noise (which resembles a bad > bearing turning furiously) Without being able to hear it myself, it's probably some form of transformer or inverter whine, or maybe something using PWM at low frequency. Anything with an electro-magnetic field oscillating at the right frequency will cause it. (This all assumes of course that what you're hearing is from the actual computer and not bad speakers or something). > The noise is most pronounced as I hover and move among the categories in > the gnome3 Applications menu. What's your CPU activity/frequency/clocking doing when this happens? Is there any other correlation to CPU activity? Is there a correlation to holding the mouse button(s) down? >I have no idea whether this has anything to do > with Radeon HD 8470D onboard graphics chip That's part of your new motherboard, right? Is your new board an identical model to your old one? Because if your old board had different hardware and you had the sound back then, its unlikely the new board would do the same thing. >the noise was not present when > I was running Windows XP with the correct official graphics driver. The sound is most likely specific to voltage/load in some particular circuit, which can vary due to all sorts of things. I wouldn't assume driver issues are the cause just yet. >If the > noise is related to graphics, then quite likely the source would be the > RAM modules - my system's video RAM comes from the main RAM. RAM doesn't make noise, like, ever. It's FAR more likely to be due to a voltage regulator or something feeding the graphics chip. > Other possibilities include the power supply unit Did your power supply cost at least $75 USD? Is it certified 80+ Silver or better? Because if not, then it's likely to be the issue, or at least a strong mitigating factor. Generic bargain PSUs are pretty notorious for producing atrociously "dirty" power, with all sorts of line ripple and EMF issues that cause weird problems like this. >I am currently ruling out the MB, CPU and CPU fan because all of them > are brand new. Again, are they identical replacements for your old ones? If so it might be an issue common to that model, or the combination thereof. I suppose the hard disk can also be ruled out it is a solid state > disk purchased just 2 months back. Does the machine make the noise when just looking at the BIOS (or BIOS equivalent)? If so, you can try powering it on without the drive. > Anyone who can help my identify the root cause Well, the "root" cause is electrical. If you don't have any moving parts besides your cpu fan, then some electrical field somewhere is vibrating the air at a frequency in the audible range, and that will be dependent on voltage/load. Then the question becomes what combinations of things you do with the machine that cause the issue to manifest. >would installing a separate graphics card > solve the issue ? The noise is extremely unlikely to be from your RAM, but you could try swapping around the hardware and putting in new cards anyway just to change the load on the PSU and different parts of the board and see what happens. If your new board is the same model as your old one, and the noise is due to the onboard graphics circuitry, using a separate card could very well make it go away. I'd also strongly recommend trying a different PSU too (regardless of quality, at least once just to make sure). Maybe try plugging all your USB devices into a PCI USB card or something if nothing else does it. 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[24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e6sm63038ith.0.2016.08.17.13.46.13 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B4CD2D.5080108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:46:37 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions Subject: testing 11.0-RC1 vnet jails with pf firewall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:46:15 -0000 Hello list; Running 11.0-RC1 with only option vimage compiled into the generic kernel. PF runs fine on the host. Have pf rules to pass and log everything and I see what I exspect to see in the hosts pf log. Issuing ifconfig on the host shows pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33184 groups: pflog I added this to the vnet jails rc.conf pf_enable="YES" pflog_enable="YES" The jail.conf for the vnet jail has devfsrule # 6 which contains this [devfsrules_vjail_pf=6] add include $devfsrules_jail add path pf unhide add path pfsync unhide add path pflog unhide When I start the vnet jail it comes up just fine. Issuing ifconfig from within the vnet jail shows pflog0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 33184 groups: pflog You can see pflog0 has been created but not running. There is no /var/log/pflog file in the vnet jail. Issuing the "pfctl -sr -vv" command from within the vnet jail shows No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled @0 pass log (all) quick on epair2b all flags S/SA keep state [ Evaluations: 11 Packets: 55 Bytes: 8366 States: 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 2561 State Creations: 11 ] I can ping the public from within the vnet jail. These limited signs seem to indicate the pf firewall is working in some limited way in the vnet jail. The real problem is with pf logging. There is none. The single pass rule that runs in the vnet jail should be generating log data from the ipv4 pings I do and whois packets. There is even nothing in the hosts pf log. The only things I see in the hosts pf log are ipv6 ping6 multacasts and ipv6 dns inquire requests going out the hosts external interface. The vimage literature talks about unique firewalls per vnet jail. To me that translates into the firewall generating logs in the vnet jail directory tree. I rebooted the host and used a kernel compiled with vimage and pf. Got same results. Suggesting about what I can try to get logging working in the vnet jail so it logs to the vnet jails directory tree sure would be apprehended. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:00:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAB6BBD883 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0DE51F45 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-115.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 336433CEE2; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7HL0Q0Q003305; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:00:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:00:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-Id: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:00:36 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:11:10 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the previous > hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After installing the new > MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise (which resembles a bad > bearing turning furiously) has not gone away. The pitch has changed, but there > is an incessant noise which becomes pretty irritating after some time sitting > next to the PC. Hmmm... Many years ago, I had the same observation with a Voodoo graphics card inside a 500 MHz Pentium III system. Especially what you describe next sounds familiar: > The noise is most pronounced as I hover and move among the categories in > the gnome3 Applications menu. I also noticed a relation to what the graphics card was doing. Especially when rendering 3D stuff (while doing OpenGL programming), the sound was very annoying. It could be "modulated" by changing the window size or the screen resolution. > I have no idea whether this has anything to do > with Radeon HD 8470D onboard graphics chip, which is currently unsupported > on FreeBSD and has to be driven with the vesa driver. But it is a > possibility because, as far as I remember, the noise was not present when > I was running Windows XP with the correct official graphics driver. The GPU does different things internally depending on the driver. Especially the direct rendering functionality is different from what the "software renderer" does which generates the result image in VESA mode. > If the > noise is related to graphics, then quite likely the source would be the > RAM modules - my system's video RAM comes from the main RAM. Interesting thought. > Other possibilities include the power supply unit and the cables. I am > currently ruling out the MB, CPU and CPU fan because all of them are brand > new. Have you ever heard the term "defective by design"? ;-) > I suppose the hard disk can also be ruled out it is a solid state > disk purchased just 2 months back. Except for the mouse, all USB devices > too can be ruled too because I disconnected all USB peripherals (bar > the mouse, for which I changed the port from backside to front) and the > noise keeps coming unabated. Some years ago, I read an article about the mouse movement (!) making noises through the sound "card"... but when you hear the noises from the system, not from speakers or via headphones, this probably is not the case here. > If the > noise is deemed to be from RAM, would installing a separate graphics card > solve the issue ? That depends on the graphics card. You should choose wisely which brand and model you obtain. Compatibility is as much an issue as acceptable driver support, but luckily there are several good GPUs which are known to work with FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:19:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334CFBBDFA0 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B5061F4E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1471468630; bh=UQSboGlO3pooDE1PcvuT0c834F9v3FLHVlH0THShSS0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=AID2ux0IDC0rKBWWyqF1lgUOVr4aUVdrZ63GXcodYGcV4RVq+1kw0sDiTEvdbEO/zVmdHJ0LORyo3+A5Lw1xiVifc4y8U9nQw+VRJM0bA14MZV0N86rA7ktDFVxNpYTBP6NIxyqcKczHOvbd3alm6cizYWaACfytFLwUKlwS3IWBX/+MQ6Jdj9SfvPQOM7SFDV+KwrsZWBHWrfNc1mVw042HFjV+ltsqAfRfW2NixOeY+KK1iHsy1F9koFs4B9UvMEhfwXfc/pOd25a6CoxkdiBXf7H8thjUNoxXA0J2mm3xBpoetXb0Uq1S9ZzEqKGPfdGoo/wM1V6xv1NCEbIQ4g== Received: from [212.82.98.63] by nm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:17:10 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.86] by tm16.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:17:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:17:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 50573.93022.bm@smtp123.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: BMcsGWgVM1nTD8d.0GU68wbxnJKS4qr4ShsGBx1UUJgjTam nwY73oSvi91UWyotMoURwHslhmUzeliBGyCcMDpg8.SCl5GUzGSBrxRDMXGt zc6q9fyANUsoXLBw9E1wwrCUyZ13fhoz9D6z0N8_9PP.GvJugvQbLwAJ_rza TBRXXWZCiI54MZf8bFq0upH3_M4Yp3H1P8U_828nDcu7.wvHv6q1XMN2nEQb Mlg.J8rJwTtSpT795tMSQ9kEtd9m5qDpwsim.7hSG.WGql6Q7.wiNdb_.0AV SLoi9sPBdB09odh7g4iHRRCm1ABHZQ6Dtm7Wbaf4lYlncxgPa.0tyH3mc1ff K4RvlAAN_hH91xZ5IGzHKF3_1kQGygIpeTi5Ts_KjzqN8IMwGH_r2SopDtDS yXlkIFSoDW6zUm3WNJE1R3FWQO21mN45bO_bWYURHq6.IPYkzdpSfppPneWI 3uTVlLub462zXsJMajA5V0foXKAjurKsyeTk56QcsNYwludgswL_5QO..Gre 0NfKMPyN3J14nhH18WX4E8Sb9Blu9hLSqt2cyaKze83vM6HOgLIUbnnU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:17:09 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-ID: <20160817231709.5d0759c0@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:19:35 -0000 >On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:11:10 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >> I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the >> previous hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After >> installing the new MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise >> (which resembles a bad bearing turning furiously) has not gone away. The noise is not more probably caused by a CRT? Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:26:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6615FBBD1EB for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E8BB156D for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-115.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FD093CDDB; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:26:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7HLQS2X003376; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:26:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:26:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-Id: <20160817232628.2c6858e1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160817231709.5d0759c0@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160817231709.5d0759c0@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:26:31 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:17:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > >On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:11:10 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > >> I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the > >> previous hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After > >> installing the new MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise > >> (which resembles a bad bearing turning furiously) has not gone away. > > The noise is not more probably caused by a CRT? Nobody is using a CRT today (except me). ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:28:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBFEBBD31E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm23.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BFE61650 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1471469120; bh=XVLCLeeNjuhn+K2GIdRLr/kVw/azIdwq7RbpPmgwgnQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=Dtzyy9REZi3ZRz15yQnBEmU/yWr4sn3MPtWZBzznD5wd97pik1fQbKnZaBrSMh8XhhcQuhqlXmb6XCEnrwPvEsqOtVklaT8juRljzq7jodMvcJPcYkNEEJyxNJv72Lxn9epVUgXTaXNvYv+NMcLGeD7Yjahy7CJN+vnhuxa2X301s4gHPOj+QtKZZhhGxdw/sqFScGP2X84BcP2rL9ApDGuLTmBtDY/wcaYmAdSMTOCqMaOPitDjcc/b3bctifOL4Bb/6SbSbeZRG5ShysrjiISiAKH04+ovdKeWlscOk5yLZSX50q4piLT48pwntekNwAIM9vultpVT1eq4bDSKGQ== Received: from [212.82.98.63] by nm23.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:25:20 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.100] by tm16.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:25:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:25:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 306982.31924.bm@smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: EzHphG8VM1n9yGRK8pZILM3CyECVHDuA4uiRZK7p2t3lvJd WnXKosK_0YWQM64Ek2s.1heus5EfAo2LjUoYPE4aGg9gxGB1Y4pKkrIndx1Z yBMgnLFwVZASdQ4ZA.gbzj9cXI1sXwxBQK0ACWR..1VdP5dHidt7e8KdmQg8 FqafVDP8qdR6BGJ.afQ_hN1vMfLDI8S_8qQ2TtOZie3b9act3CmG.ri1hAF3 knnSA1cLUtobIXwSwUtZhNy2c68OErb7gLUKPLt7r7ghqFySGVniHgfjmE0q E_NYoz_EgJA7WtdXOrycq_qBupB9sCJUoM4KxknWCbp.J.Sir_4ATj6XE4dN E0mK0mtHwoso4ofNQoZ0.nKNnhq3.y4QK_rmXoYJ5ygMaXQ0nDSj7OkVupaJ BwfLbHHSEBoJ3wnqRZ7XxiKuHmBeIGt99F.efTp5syoYnRjxjrXRZTG5v_FJ ri2Aodb.OsrTSxo_yOFjDKL0Zt7AMgaAvUnIFO18qGCC_wNdFiTtwzwKE8Wa IIpRvhBs9nCS.ppLZ.igDnxEguR7g0exTao1aQTcjTLdjegVDJyDLxzfN6Il Bp1FI6hlZihpXWbRodKFrmr9VYC7UeBY- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:25:19 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-ID: <20160817232519.4d0d9fa9@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20160817231709.5d0759c0@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160817231709.5d0759c0@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:28:17 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:17:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:11:10 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >>> I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the >>> previous hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After >>> installing the new MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise >>> (which resembles a bad bearing turning furiously) has not gone >>> away. > >The noise is not more probably caused by a CRT? PS: You are using the same switching power supply? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:29:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689B2BBD3A4 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm14-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm14-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB1A2170E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1471469340; bh=KAg8TEnaEAMFWriNRT6a+IpMrVSdaca9BSreooBzkUA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=sW8SDTXU0EtPxsNvtQFx/8Kw9dN47RU8cjU3MF4oFKidxDoGs1YaVx/h2whe6u/PM+FTPwQayURdWJJ71RnpTcqZgppbBIs92oGRoxMM3stBMkpgZryJE0MNEzkPYTA7p9jcsVXciw3uxBArU/JA3OlJ9b64tlpOrq0sf1+rJK82kNhAa5lQ/KZihwIi8QawoL4BmSgzBhzXPVg4p/kJkpu35suy82wQhnAQpS0nVcEsxwm+wLggbtyvI6r3x6CutUJvKIuEhMXu+U7y+ah1SrMOTXWXMEffscH4qLS9wJy+RzEKEFTmzWKt8hBQbWF+/xuRn9o2M6JdhLl2nSa+YQ== Received: from [212.82.98.57] by nm14.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:29:00 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.80] by tm10.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:29:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2016 21:29:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 301403.14611.bm@smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: lAxcPf0VM1kpd8PZ8oCpcGcfYwkCpxokVp2x0vLa5CwwOmu Ik.zXGrUOzJvGdfam6rY1.73KgtWKWTd4kfWrkLWNG7tHKIzTTB6ZJH9adEK K44X5jqZrrAbGGDzvju5Z871wSw6huqunR_pFZrlfhKqR3BF0ADOUjMSmjOc 7kxQZeNh5tSLqLQmT.aBk0.2iCsS64PHSyPjmxEtvL_QaubLdYOJqjigMZL2 UPDwinp4OvRxkoBX1K763nb5k0YwmcFwGrkoiQcx8VYh3P_R8wBCS6NhyU.i RcWTnj3ey0L0HksMnHhtLIsIuSSDOCbVlOfVKsb9PxeUHwZG72KQsXKPd249 _Avqfe7smWvhcF2DZZ.fC5u5.cJk2_oYg852YdWYFygkbye3wOkpa23MW_BA n_1EBikrAeX0WbFxVBkGUvPMKnwfrDcvXAShWUgdyk_zriyMoGaXj.mxlT_k 2Sm0AJk9zbIy0S1AuaCi8bqG0qqg_aJqjzi.gdoUGOX4Gzo8XBXG9xsYGamI UZoqSLAZh0MXDXeoTNwuzG0D4d2MWlaHvLBHTp8hegk47zs0qJnviN8Qu8qY pvhru7yDuKnWZxsNDfP_oJZQ8n4tFyus- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:28:59 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-ID: <20160817232859.394c8ef5@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20160817232628.2c6858e1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160817231709.5d0759c0@archlinux.localdomain> <20160817232628.2c6858e1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:29:08 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:26:28 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:17:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions >wrote: >> >On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:11:10 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >> >> I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the >> >> previous hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After >> >> installing the new MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise >> >> (which resembles a bad bearing turning furiously) has not gone >> >> away. >> >> The noise is not more probably caused by a CRT? > >Nobody is using a CRT today (except me). ;-) I'm using a CRT, too. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:49:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66504BBDD3E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from mail.kc8onw.net (kc8onw.net [206.55.216.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCEB1A53 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from [10.70.3.102] (99-55-193-152.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net [99.55.193.152]) by mail.kc8onw.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28B0F3911; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? To: Ian Smith References: <20160817210437.M79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: <159c6f79-7de6-1234-b5c5-588df8041085@kc8onw.net> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:48:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160817210437.M79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:49:02 -0000 On 8/17/2016 7:34 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 637, Issue 3, Message: 20 > On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:31:12 -040 Jonathan Stewart wrote: > > > (Please CC me as I'm not subscribed right now) > > And please cc me on any reply; I take the -digest. > > > I have a Lexar USB3 128GB flash drive that has quit working. I get the > > following on the console and in dmesg when I plug the drive in, is there > > any hope other than a professional recovery company for this drive? On a > > Windows machine it does some kind of disconnect/reconnect loop but just > > triggers the text below on FreeBSD. > > Have you tried it on other FreeBSD boxes too? I don't have any other FreeBSD systems to test it on. The two Windows machines I have both do the disconnect/reconnect loop. > > ugen1.3: at usbus1 > > umass0: on usbus1 > > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 > > umass0:9:0:-1: Attached to scbus9 > > da4 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 > > da4: Removable Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device > > da4: Serial Number AAUAYQ9QH3OH4ONS > > da4: 40.000MB/s transfers > > da4: 122104MB (250068992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15566C) > > da4: quirks=0x2 > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 0e e7 bf fe 00 00 01 00 > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 0e e7 bf ff 00 00 01 00 > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 00 > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) > > (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error > > When that's finished logging, does /dev/da4 still exist? If not, I > don't know. 'Medium not present' looks pretty serious. > > But if so, you may be able to recover most of its contents, less any bad > blocks (which will be replaced by NUL bytes), using something like: > > # dd if=/dev/da4 of=recovered.img conv=noerror,sync bs=512 > The device is still present but dd gives me the following. storage% sudo dd if=/dev/da4 of=/testdump.bin dd: /dev/da4: Device not configured 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.001363 secs (0 bytes/sec) My best guess (assuming the error is accurate) is that I cracked the BGA array and the controller chip is fine but it can't talk to the flash chip. In which case a recovery company can probably either remount it or dismount it and read it externally I hope. Damned expensive though most likely. Thanks, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:52:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FC8BBDF27 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from mail.kc8onw.net (kc8onw.net [206.55.216.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CEC1DAE for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from [10.70.3.102] (99-55-193-152.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net [99.55.193.152]) by mail.kc8onw.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEF3D3912; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? To: Alphons van Werven , RW References: <20160817130943.6c2315df@gumby.homeunix.com> <20160817131138.1775b70f@gumby.homeunix.com> <20160817125805.GA56841@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: <6759c085-2906-8481-b2e4-4f80359ec994@kc8onw.net> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:52:13 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160817125805.GA56841@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:52:18 -0000 On 8/17/2016 8:58 AM, Alphons van Werven wrote: > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > ["re-CC'ed" OP] > >>> If you haven't already tried try swapping the connectors around using >>> a different connector on a different motherboard socket. >> Sorry I missed the USB bit. > Nevertheless, if not already done so it might eliminate the possibility > that the problem is with the computer the drive is connected to rather > than the drive itself. > > Other than that, in my experience errors like these usually suggest that > the drive itself is broken on the hardware level and cannot be rescued on > a software level. Depending on exactly where the failure lies and whether > that's a user-serviceable part (e.g. a connector or controller or some- > thing), it *might* be possible to salvage the data by replacing the com- > ponent in question with a "donor" component from a healthy drive of the > same make and type--or at least a similar device with compatible com- > ponents. However, this usually requires considerable expertise and even > then USB drives in particular often don't have a whole lot of removable > components in the first place. > > Fonz I've tried several USB ports on several different computers with no luck. I've resoldered contacts and traces on USB drives before but from what I can see nothing is visibly broken. As noted in my other email since the drive responds and IDs itself I'm guessing the flash chip BGA array is broken, which I have no ability to do anything with. The drive is still sold so if I can find someone that can do BGA work it would theoretically be possible to move the flash chip to a donor drive, but I have no idea where to look for that. Thanks, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:52:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D590BBDFB0 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f174.google.com (mail-io0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D90791E92 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 38so3972850iol.0 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=2Y+OQmI01x3Dx/xfE5COXwrxtkLolyZKVsJBfQ9ntk4=; b=WM6j+OkZqLLESz0AIGMxgRJOsGwm0Y4zqthHiAL9IW4mgmPJhM+zT7lv6VqL98qtu5 6JLfEwglpxwb8je0AgbdREJD0/lOQOoqh8di5n/S/0q7k8A6+9w6R758dnPQVannrraW O6d88VHzs7HEPe0BZSm5cPqO++cWLPitAACXdvlud+DFTghlkWKPpaq1rrjQ2hhglqLw gTohJDm+1lQBQO9W8+crAOGFe1SJN9LezfRP/m+6ANkRf57bVk1fyuPdjGGOCWFq3k7I PaVF+znbuYoyFnH2eDeaHI/3a4VlDcuxgDSj5VbZoAsBdOkG3+kX/ZP/TUrAYE23Z9o+ n7Ng== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuKGDg/qImn2aCV0PejUQjQAxu4DO1vD4c+gvelDtJK4QhZ3cKBmbErWmFkCGWjdg== X-Received: by 10.107.131.11 with SMTP id f11mr50777333iod.136.1471470321616; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-205-119.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.205.119]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e125sm655927ith.20.2016.08.17.14.45.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:45:20 -0700 (PDT) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:45:21 -0500 Message-ID: <864m6j3w9a.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:52:55 -0000 Manish Jain writes: > I suppose the hard disk can also be ruled out it is a solid state > disk purchased just 2 months back. Actually, SSDs do indeed make a high-pitched noisen when active---at least the ones in my laptop do (two different brands and form factors). The noise is very soft and not really constant, though. It's more a syncopated, staccato "crackling" that sounds like a whine during high I/O, and you aren't likely to notice it unless the rest of the machine (and room, for that matter) is nearly silent. So unless you notice that the tone and rhythm of the sound matches up with the I/O of your system, disk isn't a likely source. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 21:59:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E7FBBD14F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22d.google.com (mail-it0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2D4612FA for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id f6so3691065ith.0 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:59:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bq4bcjVCvPLoC2rsxMy4lQ7Gv4aZSLnfnQoL3eCMiGc=; b=x/V7b/f213uruCsg0jpvqBRcXNpZhtYV3c+Lsdu9xrk5IzwkCDAxpBc43WU7t7AKoG 01sqZX+93El69Tua8PnCm9bFYvYuKnocbwsceD4H3MQRcmmGmZvcs2z5jf2gZJxZ6iDD SeoOyowr7jIHN1UIPmAinPXaH9HnBKN//edowuA/tl8mM0IBBW1ne5ziKZVtLy5K/Mep Jwv6fwuH8lde9R3m4v7H25P/uwCx/pkF8cgOFdoLjWsgWQX5baz38j16b+gbiyU0syff yuaE0+76yLEKfXpdmhvaATiKGlPguDiCtkuJxOqn8DbeoiegU8yu+KZivq/bFGH/3Up7 D2FQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bq4bcjVCvPLoC2rsxMy4lQ7Gv4aZSLnfnQoL3eCMiGc=; b=HXLpE27/NGV3sjpqAmNquvkFILLUAwDKhOZZ6MHHwypYa5/MG91POaKziPQt8+baU/ lJEXdOXvJ0ksp1o7J2cT0ABsj6deCxrCJEbKPJQbbKW1FMsNenRQ2CKt8N3gppTwZK/F Jcr9cAz/XXL1FvmBamGjs/PUNRH8mKbWkBtYEr4wH7pbtUG6kJX0CBgW+yHbkf5O2tMR z9YEn7XYqnm+/EPPdMxjYtt0HimrZbOjzKaKWGz8zGz+9WQjAEnj4l2mdUV5aaiSSlNn +ij7Tft/eGJWtEOKcUtKXc8QI0g/T2VNnkU6z4/YPOE+q0gzaRaWEvKVNySp4OvkDduf PjJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvb0pxogPyxW+ajZKD0iSgCrGkPxEF85he/Nt/91NSOhrAIvXUj80bB02nUQjvsjg== X-Received: by 10.36.206.129 with SMTP id v123mr31654680itg.11.1471471172150; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-24-165-196-54.neo.res.rr.com. [24.165.196.54]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v11sm5074932iod.43.2016.08.17.14.59.31 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57B4DE5E.2000004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:59:58 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions Subject: How to enable rules in hosts /etc/devfs.rules file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:59:33 -0000 I put some rules in the hosts /etc/devfs.rules file. On reboot these new rules get enabled. I would like to enable new rules without rebooting the system. Read the devfs man page and issued some commands but got message saying unknown argument. Say I have a rule number 10 that I added to the /etc/devfs.rules file. How would I go about enabling it without a reboot? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 22:12:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03589BBD496 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from auth.a.painless.aa.net.uk (auth.a.painless.aa.net.uk [90.155.4.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99C411952 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from woodcruft.co.uk ([81.187.49.114] helo=lime.woodcruft.co.uk) by a.painless.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1ba940-0000U1-Bc; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:11:56 +0100 Received: by lime.woodcruft.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D4C0543F9; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:11:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:11:48 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-ID: <20160817221148.GA12515@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> Reply-To: Frank Shute Mail-Followup-To: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-PRERELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'woodcruft.co.uk' User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:12:01 -0000 On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 07:11:10PM +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi, > > I am facing a strange situation on my FreeBSD (10.3 amd64) box - some very > subtle hardware problem which I cannot determine what and which is causing me > a lot of grief. > > I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU and DDR RAM because the previous > hardware was making a lot of high-pitched noise. After installing the new > MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise (which resembles a bad > bearing turning furiously) has not gone away. The pitch has changed, but there > is an incessant noise which becomes pretty irritating after some time sitting > next to the PC. > > The noise is most pronounced as I hover and move among the categories in > the gnome3 Applications menu. I have no idea whether this has anything to do > with Radeon HD 8470D onboard graphics chip, which is currently unsupported > on FreeBSD and has to be driven with the vesa driver. But it is a > possibility because, as far as I remember, the noise was not present when > I was running Windows XP with the correct official graphics driver. If the > noise is related to graphics, then quite likely the source would be the > RAM modules - my system's video RAM comes from the main RAM. > > Other possibilities include the power supply unit and the cables. I am > currently ruling out the MB, CPU and CPU fan because all of them are brand > new. I suppose the hard disk can also be ruled out it is a solid state > disk purchased just 2 months back. Except for the mouse, all USB devices > too can be ruled too because I disconnected all USB peripherals (bar > the mouse, for which I changed the port from backside to front) and the > noise keeps coming unabated. > > Anyone who can help my identify the root cause would do an immense favour. > Short of buying a new computer, I am perfectly willing to spend some money > for new hardware that could put a fullstop to this messy noise. If the > noise is deemed to be from RAM, would installing a separate graphics card > solve the issue ? Suggestions are most welcome. > > Thanks for any help. > Manish Jain Hi Manish, I feel your pain. I once had an AMD CPU who's fan would whine now and then. Ended up replacing a lot of hardware at much cost because it was driving me nuts. You've replaced a fair bit of the hardware, so I think we can probably rule out those bits. The SSD? I'm not an EE but I'm highly doubtful and I've never read about them ever making noise. In your situation, I'd be suspecting the PSU. I believe they can make a noise, whether they have a fan or not. The PSUs you get from the big box manufacturers tend to be pretty crappy. Maybe invest in a decent PSU? It will rule out that as the cause of the noise if nothing else. Also a PSU tends to be a bit of hardware that you can carry forward as you upgrade MB/CPU/RAM in the future. Regards, -- Frank https://woodcruft.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 22:56:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EBCBBDDAE for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9671BE9 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 260F034AA19 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:56:23 -0000 > On 13 August 2016, at 17:39, Doug Hardie = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On 13 August 2016, at 15:45, Doug Hardie = wrote: >>=20 >> I just upgraded an older PC to 11.0-RC1. Everything went fine except = the msk0 device is not found. Neither is lo0. Its as if networks never = got started. However, running netif start does nothing. msk0 is found = in the hardware during boot and it appears to get all the proper values. >=20 > Some more information. I finally found a keyboard with scroll lock. = The output shows >=20 > Starting Network: msk0 > Starting Network: lo0 >=20 > Right after that is: > route: writing to network socket: network is unreachable >=20 > It appears that the network doesn't start, but is not logging an = error. The rc.conf file is the same one used in 9.x which worked. I = did try converting from fixed IP to DHCP, but that made no difference. = msk modules are in the kernel. Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf. Set = rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: Starting Network: mske0 Starting Network: rl0 rl0: link state changed to up Starting Network: lo0 Starting dhclient rl0: not found exiting I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and = correct it? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 23:05:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F50BBD078 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B212311F0 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-112.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8788E277F0; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7HN5DR9001929; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:05:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:05:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Doug Hardie Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Non working NIC Message-Id: <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:05:24 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf. > Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: > > Starting Network: mske0 > Starting Network: rl0 > rl0: link state changed to up > Starting Network: lo0 > Starting dhclient > rl0: not found > exiting > > I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and correct it? This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. Can you show all the relevant lines? Can you manually run "dhclient rl0" at any stage? What does "ifconfig -a" show? It would be strange for the device to disappear between the message "rl0: link state changed to up" and the dhclient call... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 23:21:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4306BBBD42E for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D08817C2 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A35234A9E2; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:21:16 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4AE3B149-4D98-42B6-A362-820F85D4EE10@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:21:18 -0000 > On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf.=20 >> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: >>=20 >> Starting Network: mske0 >> Starting Network: rl0 >> rl0: link state changed to up >> Starting Network: lo0 >> Starting dhclient >> rl0: not found >> exiting >>=20 >> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and = correct it? >=20 > This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. > Can you show all the relevant lines? ifconfig rl0=3D"DHCP" >=20 > Can you manually run "dhclient rl0" at any stage? rl0: not found exiting >=20 > What does "ifconfig -a" show? : flags=3D8802 ifconfig: ioctl(SIOCGIFINFO_IN6): Device not configured >=20 > It would be strange for the device to disappear between the > message "rl0: link state changed to up" and the dhclient call... >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 23:32:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19838BBD6E3 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7F01D11 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B5B334A9F4; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:20 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:32:23 -0000 > On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf.=20 >> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: >>=20 >> Starting Network: mske0 >> Starting Network: rl0 >> rl0: link state changed to up >> Starting Network: lo0 >> Starting dhclient >> rl0: not found >> exiting >>=20 >> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and = correct it? >=20 > This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. > Can you show all the relevant lines? I switched to a minimal rc.conf: fsck_y_enable=3D"YES" background_fsck=3D"NO" dumpdev=3D"NO" hostname=3D"steve" ifconfig_rl0=3D"DHCP" sshd_enable=3D"YES" Same results. 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Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E63E91744 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-112.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69C5827744; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:55:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7HNtXWo002023; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:55:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:55:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Doug Hardie Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Non working NIC Message-Id: <20160818015533.8ae14df0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AE3B149-4D98-42B6-A362-820F85D4EE10@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AE3B149-4D98-42B6-A362-820F85D4EE10@mail.sermon-archive.info> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:55:37 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:21:16 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > > > On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > >> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf. > >> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: > >> > >> Starting Network: mske0 > >> Starting Network: rl0 > >> rl0: link state changed to up > >> Starting Network: lo0 > >> Starting dhclient > >> rl0: not found > >> exiting > >> > >> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and correct it? > > > > This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. > > Can you show all the relevant lines? > > ifconfig rl0="DHCP" ^ Missing underscore. -> ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" > > Can you manually run "dhclient rl0" at any stage? > > rl0: not found > exiting So the question is: Why does the device disappear after the kernel reported its status change to "up"? > > What does "ifconfig -a" show? > > : flags=8802 > ifconfig: ioctl(SIOCGIFINFO_IN6): Device not configured It seems that one is related to IPv6. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A8B41917 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-112.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D23CD276EC; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:58:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7HNwmGs002040; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:58:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:58:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Doug Hardie Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Non working NIC Message-Id: <20160818015848.d9fd126e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:58:55 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:20 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > > > On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > >> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf. > >> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: > >> > >> Starting Network: mske0 > >> Starting Network: rl0 > >> rl0: link state changed to up > >> Starting Network: lo0 > >> Starting dhclient > >> rl0: not found > >> exiting > >> > >> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and correct it? > > > > This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. > > Can you show all the relevant lines? > > I switched to a minimal rc.conf: > > fsck_y_enable="YES" > background_fsck="NO" > dumpdev="NO" > hostname="steve" > ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" > sshd_enable="YES" > > > Same results. No errors in this file. However it's interesting that (if I remember the thread so far) you reported the disappearing of a network interface with two different devices... however, there's something strange about the message: when I try to run dhclient for a network interface that does not exist on my system, I get this: # dhclient fxp0 ifconfig: interface fxp0 does not exist fxp0: not found exiting. Note the ifconfig-related line. And if you run "ifconfig -a" and the interface _is_ listed, this makes the whole thing even more strange... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 00:12:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8725EBBC53A for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A8A31178 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-112.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17D78277DA; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u7I0Cfbi002091; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:12:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:12:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-Id: <20160818021241.6f6fcaae.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20160817230026.c620e095.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:12:46 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:38:17 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > That depends on the graphics card. You should choose wisely which > > brand and model you obtain. Compatibility is as much an issue as > > acceptable driver support, but luckily there are several good GPUs > > which are known to work with FreeBSD. > > Hello Poly, > > A long time since I heard from you. I feel better when I see a message > from you in my inbox : - ) I see too many messages in my inbox, that's why answering may take some time, but I don't forget anything. ;-) > (this time though, I am replying from Geary, not alpine; and you may > see the formatting not as per your mandate). I have "adjusted" the quotation to make reading the message easier, especially for the archives. > W.r.t. your suggestion, I am inclined to complain that you did not > respond to my request for nvidia GPU counsel. Was my request not > humble enough ? The problem with GPUs usually is that you have to _try_ several drivers. I had the same problem with my nVidia GeForce: VESA, nv, nouveau, and finally the (proprietary) nvidia driver with the kernel module - which worked as expected. Maybe people owning newer hardware can add suggestions on which GPU is currently well supported and runs with the available drivers. As I do not change systems much, my experience is quite limited. In the past, the "ati" driver included in X (when it was called XFree86) could achieve excellent results, even the 3D parts were working flawlessly. I have the same experience with built-in Intel GPUs in older laptops (IBM and Dell). Regarding the testing: Install the drivers via ports/packages, create a basic xorg.conf, trim it to the minimum, and force X to use the driver you want to test. Usually X without a configuration file should work fine, but if it doesn't, try this forced approach. > I anyway learnt from Matthew Macy that amdgpu/radeon driver should > be available by September end. Let's see if I can get my Radeon HD8470D > working smoothly with the new radeon driver. It shouldn't matter if it's an integrated GPU if the chipset is then supported. If you can't get it working, maybe installing an expansion card (with more choice of brand and model) is a solution. The on-board GPU should be deactivated automatically, especially when there is no corresponding BIOS/UEFI setting for this task. Booting the system, checking "pciconf -lv" and finally "startx" should reveal if there are suddenly two GPUs in the system (which is possible). > I suppose that the new driver should be available under > x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati port. Would it be sufficient to do a > 'make config deinstall fetch install clean' in that port ? For ports, the order usually is # make deinstall # make clean # make # make reinstall A "make fetch" is not needed in a port's directory as it will be performed automatically. If you are using pkg, a "pkg install" for the package will usually do the trick. Keep in mind that it _might_ be possible that a certain driver will require you to recompile X. If I remember correctly, that was a problem with the nvidia driver, and you needed to recompile X if you wanted to use the radeon driver... not sure if this still applies, hopefully this complicatedness has gone. > If you can, please also lend me your views on my fledgling attempt > to set up a forum for hardware compatibility. I am trying to set up > a mailing list and a website which lists the graphics chipsets and > printers which a) work best with FreeBSD; b) are economical; c) are > currently available at premier online retail sites like Amazon. Hmmm... aspect c) might rule out lots of well supported devices because Amazon usually doesn't sell used office-class laser printers. Short answer for printers: has a network interface and speaks at least one of PS, PCL and PDF -> works. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 00:14:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E78BBC6AF for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6C3126B for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C002B34A9F4; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160818015533.8ae14df0.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:14:11 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <51F88CAD-F4C2-4362-8AEE-EC6E62D8BB6E@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AE3B149-4D98-42B6-A362-820F85D4EE10@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818015533.8ae14df0.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:14:13 -0000 > On 17 August 2016, at 16:55, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:21:16 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>=20 >>> On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf.=20= >>>> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: >>>>=20 >>>> Starting Network: mske0 >>>> Starting Network: rl0 >>>> rl0: link state changed to up >>>> Starting Network: lo0 >>>> Starting dhclient >>>> rl0: not found >>>> exiting >>>>=20 >>>> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and = correct it? >>>=20 >>> This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. >>> Can you show all the relevant lines? >>=20 >> ifconfig rl0=3D"DHCP" > ^ > Missing underscore. -> ifconfig_rl0=3D"DHCP" Sorry about that. I have to manually type in whats on the screen. = There are no working network interfaces. I am not a great typist. The = underscore is actually there. >=20 >=20 >=20 >>> Can you manually run "dhclient rl0" at any stage? >>=20 >> rl0: not found >> exiting >=20 > So the question is: Why does the device disappear after the > kernel reported its status change to "up"? >=20 >=20 >=20 >>> What does "ifconfig -a" show? >>=20 >> : flags=3D8802 >> ifconfig: ioctl(SIOCGIFINFO_IN6): Device not configured >=20 > It seems that one is related to IPv6. It looks that way. I chased down the not found message in dhclient. It = is generated in discover_interfaces as the result of a getifaddrs call. I added to rc.conf: ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"none" ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"NO" Didn't change anything. 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Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9421D5B for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 75F3034AA0E; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160818015848.d9fd126e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:17:34 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <174B1185-C1FF-4699-81B6-861E97A30181@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160818015848.d9fd126e.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:17:37 -0000 > On 17 August 2016, at 16:58, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:20 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>=20 >>> On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf.=20= >>>> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: >>>>=20 >>>> Starting Network: mske0 >>>> Starting Network: rl0 >>>> rl0: link state changed to up >>>> Starting Network: lo0 >>>> Starting dhclient >>>> rl0: not found >>>> exiting >>>>=20 >>>> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and = correct it? >>>=20 >>> This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. >>> Can you show all the relevant lines? >>=20 >> I switched to a minimal rc.conf: >>=20 >> fsck_y_enable=3D"YES" >> background_fsck=3D"NO" >> dumpdev=3D"NO" >> hostname=3D"steve" >> ifconfig_rl0=3D"DHCP" >> sshd_enable=3D"YES" >>=20 >>=20 >> Same results. >=20 > No errors in this file. However it's interesting that (if I remember > the thread so far) you reported the disappearing of a network = interface > with two different devices... however, there's something strange about > the message: when I try to run dhclient for a network interface that > does not exist on my system, I get this: >=20 > # dhclient fxp0 > ifconfig: interface fxp0 does not exist > fxp0: not found > exiting. >=20 > Note the ifconfig-related line. And if you run "ifconfig -a" and the > interface _is_ listed, this makes the whole thing even more strange... I created the following code: #include #include #include #include int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { int rc; struct ifaddrs *ifi; rc =3D getifaddrs (&ifi); printf ("rc =3D %d\n", rc); } Compiled it with debugging and ran it. after the getifaddrs call (it = returned 0), there were 3 entries in the table. All 3 have the name of = "".=20 I commented out the networking calls in rc.conf, rebooted the machine = and then ran the code. Same result. I rebooted in single user mode and = ran the code and the same results. The boot process is not setting the = interface names properly. Whats even more fascinating about this is I = have upgraded other machines (although they are newer) from 9.3 to = 11.0-RC1 and they worked just fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 01:22:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766CABBD69B for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFCA11CB for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA36934A9E2; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Non working NIC From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <174B1185-C1FF-4699-81B6-861E97A30181@mail.sermon-archive.info> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:22:08 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <21C5CB57-F898-48DB-B3C4-24D4D57DB5FF@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <224DCDD3-162F-4E67-8C1D-9332C85FC032@mail.sermon-archive.info> <6A68E1F3-95CC-42AE-94B4-02B153E4E83F@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160818010513.0c95f8df.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160818015848.d9fd126e.freebsd@edvax.de> <174B1185-C1FF-4699-81B6-861E97A30181@mail.sermon-archive.info> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:22:10 -0000 > On 17 August 2016, at 18:17, Doug Hardie = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On 17 August 2016, at 16:58, Polytropon wrote: >>=20 >> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:20 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On 17 August 2016, at 16:05, Polytropon wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:56:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>> Added a new NIC (rl0). Removed any reference to msk0 in rc.conf.=20= >>>>> Set rl0 for DHCP. Same result, but some additional messages: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Starting Network: mske0 >>>>> Starting Network: rl0 >>>>> rl0: link state changed to up >>>>> Starting Network: lo0 >>>>> Starting dhclient >>>>> rl0: not found >>>>> exiting >>>>>=20 >>>>> I am out of ideas here. How can I figure out what is going on and = correct it? >>>>=20 >>>> This almost looks like a problem with the contents of rc.conf. >>>> Can you show all the relevant lines? >>>=20 >>> I switched to a minimal rc.conf: >>>=20 >>> fsck_y_enable=3D"YES" >>> background_fsck=3D"NO" >>> dumpdev=3D"NO" >>> hostname=3D"steve" >>> ifconfig_rl0=3D"DHCP" >>> sshd_enable=3D"YES" >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Same results. >>=20 >> No errors in this file. However it's interesting that (if I remember >> the thread so far) you reported the disappearing of a network = interface >> with two different devices... however, there's something strange = about >> the message: when I try to run dhclient for a network interface that >> does not exist on my system, I get this: >>=20 >> # dhclient fxp0 >> ifconfig: interface fxp0 does not exist >> fxp0: not found >> exiting. >>=20 >> Note the ifconfig-related line. And if you run "ifconfig -a" and the >> interface _is_ listed, this makes the whole thing even more = strange... >=20 > I created the following code: >=20 > #include > #include > #include > #include >=20 > int main (int argc, char *argv[]) > { > int rc; > struct ifaddrs *ifi; >=20 > rc =3D getifaddrs (&ifi); > printf ("rc =3D %d\n", rc); > } >=20 >=20 > Compiled it with debugging and ran it. after the getifaddrs call (it = returned 0), there were 3 entries in the table. All 3 have the name of = "".=20 >=20 > I commented out the networking calls in rc.conf, rebooted the machine = and then ran the code. Same result. I rebooted in single user mode and = ran the code and the same results. The boot process is not setting the = interface names properly. Whats even more fascinating about this is I = have upgraded other machines (although they are newer) from 9.3 to = 11.0-RC1 and they worked just fine. I just noticed, all the systems that upgraded and worked properly are = amd64. This one is i386. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 02:41:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A9ABBE99C for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7E001481 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-122-5.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.122.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91C203F849; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57B52047.8020804@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:41:11 -0400 From: Quartz MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manish Jain CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:41:14 -0000 > << > What's your CPU activity/frequency/clocking doing when this happens? Is > there any other correlation to CPU activity? Is there a correlation to > holding the mouse button(s) down? > >> > > I know no way of generating CPU stats. If you can give me the > command[s], I can run them to get suitable output for CPU activity. I meant more just general CPU utilization and/or power management. If you run 'top' while mousing around, does the CPU activity spike when the noise happens? Do you have power management stuff installed/enabled such that the CPU underclocks when not under load? > There is no relation to clicking the mouse button; the only clear > relation is to mouse movement - specifically, hovering and moving among > the categories in the Gnome applications menu. At that stage, the mouse > cursor tends to remain glued for 1-2 seconds to the old category and the > noise becomes most disturbing till the time the new category gets > populated. I have no idea why moving among the categories has become so > painful; on my old hardware, this was never a problem. Mouse lag is often due to interrupts, which may be an I/O problem. I'd be interested for you to check what 'top' is saying at that point. Basically, what we're trying to do here is narrow down if the noise seems related to CPU activity, graphics activity, disk activity, or something else. > Yes, the Radeon chipset is part of the new motherboard, which is of a > new model entirely. The noise with the old hardware was similar but not > exactly the same; but equally disturbing. The more I think, I am > inclined to believe it is the PSU Unless you have super human hearing it's unlikely that two boards of different models will make a similar noise like that. If you're not using any other PCI cards or other devices, it pretty much has to be the PSU or SSD since those are the only things common to both setups (besides mouse/keyboard and RAM, all of which are very unlikely to be the culprit). >The > current PSU was part of a fairly expensive Cooler Master cabinet > purchased 4 years ago. To be frank, I have no way of knowing for certain > now whether the PSU was part of cabinet as shipped by CM, or was a cheap > one installed by the folks who assembled my system then. If it's a legit PSU, it'll have been certified by the Underwriters Laboratories for safety and such. Look for the UL/RU marks and find the reference number (it usually starts with a capital "E" followed by a bunch of numbers). You can look this number up on UL's site and see who the PSU was registered under. Usually that's the company that built the PSU. http://www.ul.com/marks/ul-listing-and-classification-marks/appearance-and-significance/marks-for-north-america/ If it's not certified then that means it's a grey-market import from China; throw it out. 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After installing the new > MB + CPU + CPU fan RAM, the high-pitched noise (which resembles a bad > bearing turning furiously) has not gone away. The pitch has changed, but > there > is an incessant noise which becomes pretty irritating after some time > sitting > next to the PC. > > The noise is most pronounced as I hover and move among the categories in > the gnome3 Applications menu. I have no idea whether this has anything to > do > with Radeon HD 8470D onboard graphics chip, which is currently > unsupported > on FreeBSD and has to be driven with the vesa driver. But it is a > possibility because, as far as I remember, the noise was not present when > I was running Windows XP with the correct official graphics driver. If > the > noise is related to graphics, then quite likely the source would be the > RAM modules - my system's video RAM comes from the main RAM. > > Other possibilities include the power supply unit and the cables. I am > currently ruling out the MB, CPU and CPU fan because all of them are > brand > new. I suppose the hard disk can also be ruled out it is a solid state > disk purchased just 2 months back. Except for the mouse, all USB devices > too can be ruled too because I disconnected all USB peripherals (bar > the mouse, for which I changed the port from backside to front) and the > noise keeps coming unabated. > > Anyone who can help my identify the root cause would do an immense > favour. > Short of buying a new computer, I am perfectly willing to spend some > money > for new hardware that could put a fullstop to this messy noise. If the > noise is deemed to be from RAM, would installing a separate graphics card > solve the issue ? Suggestions are most welcome. > > Thanks for any help. > Manish Jain I had a similar issue with FreeBSD 10.x on a workstation with nVidia card. It was high pitched, very audible, and changing in frequency, based on CPU and IO activity. Booting the same box from Linux was giving a different whine, lower pitch, lower volume, and more stable (no much change, even with CPU and IO activity). When we changed the GPU (always nVidia), the whine changed again, more subdued that time. In that case, it was definitely the interaction between the driver and the GPU. They are giving us new workstations, with nVidia 970, I shall let you know how they fare, it may take a month or so. Priyadarshan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 09:51:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D274BBDB6D for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96D6F1822 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id o80so4560217wme.0 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:51:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nqBe4dlCScN9oX4XPPzNDP/JhpqJtDSoVyjRfO93zoc=; b=uMPnXFgqweDhHP82TpwZBNUUChd5KDl18D50ws693HE+kgjOgE+eQndk6+jQztVEVg duOKbDtnnH4bxkMnDLF/YT2NbXutGz1Y7rd5IqDa5zk+tn+Ih2j3SgMHz0J7EjHPwd4I +3+QUJaJ/ISBLIrgxem8Z1tgbgGPpzcFihV8OgVaGgNubZ+TqIb2hvpZKsXxaxytKWo9 PYI6taBoDtY2lfKYmSfnCHdWLPbz9HDqFe4wCVW39W5JxjZYRTcREyPAiJ/I/SrLDK2w 9joBFp/sIORvdJfWpxqg6yf0yyM0cxAIo08hvbw/mfHTlOE/Eh8M8w4/qTRfV0W+V3SR GA8A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nqBe4dlCScN9oX4XPPzNDP/JhpqJtDSoVyjRfO93zoc=; b=EWZ/3flUmdSoiQgwd+xOSLCie0ZXlYcuOJJhKfZ//snD9Jh5HBxAk13Zu4n3g9eipl VRCMGOscUQ5aj5TU8emB9byhcwQ81bLgIaiGO808rVvmklXUn/snTxc1Y942h//mPiwX kGQtStbS08xVo7znYHOe7J2e3bH+Z9N19hK+K/SlO9lzFk4RNRFsHcnnCiRtlC/UqKcl 0JOwJd6KbRJ3LMaur2gpHu93/DG2zo1t3g8GAUxjgmvrN9wK1mmgY0TSxtG09YyWmT2f fvx/xFDdCA0bX4a/7iQslCUPNK6iqAE0FOV4mI0sFNHWn4LKiv9HZcb7A91x6EICtGc5 DjiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouv/O/WkcTp7khRHtiBVTTRnBOXkL+eb7DJYaansq4E+pxKt1IivXs+x/ZoFZiZiAg== X-Received: by 10.28.29.211 with SMTP id d202mr1753332wmd.64.1471513860664; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.jail ([94.160.195.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d64sm1806349wmc.22.2016.08.18.02.50.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:50:50 +0200 From: maxnix To: Ernie Luzar Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: How to enable rules in hosts /etc/devfs.rules file Message-ID: <20160818115050.3e9b01f3@mail.jail> In-Reply-To: <57B4DE5E.2000004@gmail.com> References: <57B4DE5E.2000004@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:51:03 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:59:58 -0400 Ernie Luzar wrote: > I put some rules in the hosts /etc/devfs.rules file. > On reboot these new rules get enabled. > I would like to enable new rules without rebooting the system. > > Read the devfs man page and issued some commands but got message > saying unknown argument. > > Say I have a rule number 10 that I added to the /etc/devfs.rules file. > How would I go about enabling it without a reboot? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Restart devfs(8): service devfs restart. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 09:53:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CFDBBDD28 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay103.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay103.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BCCB1D90 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2A7AwDhhLVX/9SdgG1eg0NJgQmrMowsg?= =?us-ascii?q?X2GEwoCgWk4FAIBAQEBAQEBXieEXwEFOj8QCw0LCSUPEjYGE4gXAxu4Iw2EGwE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQQBAQEBI4p3gkOHOx0BBJkQNIxaAYI5cW4WiAIMhVCIM4QIg3geNoN8O?= =?us-ascii?q?jKHLQEBAQ?= Received: from unknown (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([109.128.157.212]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2016 11:53:47 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u7I9rkYl035686; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:53:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:53:46 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Ernie Luzar Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: How to enable rules in hosts /etc/devfs.rules file Message-ID: <20160818115346.7336c8cc@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <57B4DE5E.2000004@gmail.com> References: <57B4DE5E.2000004@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:53:50 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:59:58 -0400 Ernie Luzar wrote: > I put some rules in the hosts /etc/devfs.rules file. > On reboot these new rules get enabled. > I would like to enable new rules without rebooting the system. > > Read the devfs man page and issued some commands but got message saying > unknown argument. > > Say I have a rule number 10 that I added to the /etc/devfs.rules file. > How would I go about enabling it without a reboot? devfs.rules is parsed by rc(8) scripts during boot and turned into a series of devfs(8) commands. You can rerun this with 'service devfs restart'. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 10:11:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC5EBBE314 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm40-vm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm40-vm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA18F1947 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1471514903; bh=LwAwJjxzBN6DACJeH5IUDFSWqzQbdvG3UgsHExgJn8A=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=T9WwjRJB6jGcjq/eV/zrgipUO3TFglucW4dvqi4B9b9liiYpSStnSJEgdvNjOgGSnnbrvvNGC8u2jliTvSCQMaaXEy0SVu2+ntcDkcFHc1z8X8kcHq9FMYnt1/TQ3iUCP03ifbNlOyPzBXR5fKX5o0SmpySqIEQpgH5rl+yvNLoulo0JNeuI05nsMha15Xj/wmHIvh1InHbiZiQBLmV0dEW1qOgHfiC6IrPMk1KxPKYrjaprTAzyb0BezMrO/KVnZCZ2AU0STMAwcjXXB7P5daW7zdgj9Ftr3s/1CPQRBF1gbq/1eEQQ4gYYMar/d/gSi4BqTvk8h3hZiOxM75vA2A== Received: from [212.82.98.127] by nm40.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2016 10:08:23 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.79] by tm20.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2016 10:08:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2016 10:08:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 549830.80335.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mpyD2wkVM1lIvB2neYVEzTQ.DnZvZOdG1_Bsrq_6o0rV6m6 pKiJuJQonzoXM3YobGhlg8F66WOJaBC_GW.TPiwcytWiEWK1VZwh9ODaNQq4 INePVRxaYSwVXbjNXIAEekBce0Xe2fl9IMbGWdt59odaO86RZp8hgVv3e2NB 5L9t7dq8l3BfeL6aZeGQNysHsupwG52hf3m_Z.83Ff3GFzYPMTBHhwMqVh7V MW77p8oNLMbYRdhVOibsNlGzPooxwIK4xwM410LM5N4sKKYpzOk4CTWVbm4e DLWxdLbzEOhnowYQUsA3dwM7p0S9thbohXQG.jtAB1pwDaQGdibZeBISZ3Q9 hWOHJciV0cn4f4_UZMak9vC.Mf62wtdjz.tLtcCDBVLcIEpJ8nmMrEK31QqZ X8qxCZgIlwnYF3KDz.7gcMv3POuOgWmMcCK5t99JXdM.rqdZbpLIbn.2_7jb wAVuqoNQ4SpUk84XXcDbUJWDZ7AkvLfiignZTyQoSvoqkRPc7swp8PlCiXfo DJA2ZvUmjUbvrdkU.ryrrZ3jglfKEy9tTD4nEALIAq2npuOFL4Qe_IQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:08:23 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem Message-ID: <20160818120823.392bde38@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1471506663.1948586.698825249.221DB110@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1471506663.1948586.698825249.221DB110@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:11:34 -0000 Don't focus on "moving parts". Some hardware without moving parts have other technical reasons to cause high pitch noise. The most common sources for this kind of noise are CRTs and switched-mode power supplies. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 10:35:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2601BBED01 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B9D51D3E for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id i5so25428556wmg.0 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 03:35:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vEPKOZ4azDw4ZtxB1UlNM5jRrlXAK/04apiCVZ69zas=; b=iW7po/rkMcypx66BuHCDAJJ70LecplDZyKC4YSi0UnB8aZrULPsmXBGIRmzcm0NM0S KJP/V4/0axwj5TWwuSU4JuhY7H8vgs+3DikD69auZAshMlOTcJscI1p85SFZP6aWYtwj gvCwSaENlRUtiO7e39qaUIoXwUmmttdgZ3GgftBbBFGeJ44GexEq/fAzED1AI0/pZ2Rb +FSwC/F3tZM77hDt4KqmmSW4nuU7guqtlOdhY3zvotZJ5hfien8UEALJky+ltBbe0cIg eNefTAVFiaSsQ+HQw+NtCDAcwu0QoNM1tDtY9QajcPj3OoUKKyz75pImx8/l9j81vBde ejeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vEPKOZ4azDw4ZtxB1UlNM5jRrlXAK/04apiCVZ69zas=; b=OgmB3TLu5HugdBMpYJ7zK/Lui0+/kk8zudvxf6xmf5roSQUY/fyKLpUO/d1fdsLRAO lTwEkQLug26QD5MGJsJSfJ6EYu0fwFRuopedWIRbbsMeKQGv9JWuUbiRSk2L4czXWK5v PXvwW1f21ok/t6KVZuL0/04a4mpgeDo0N/SzGPb0IRkuxPIH8kXY392s1K1r61c2R/3G CYWsoBUkNJt+6b3qxgt4JYoLEbbk6WiGo6fkqh+a9lSJ9urqtciooz2C71qCh5BYcTp4 YEnxP6F8UPFpnxzWZfJcC1krapnO4D/9Yez3qbAlzOsrCrc5J6nIi+mcMb5n1aB6AUnv ss3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousKJWUHteJVlkaTROjh7I9hzPMSxVLVm6or0wLWbf1xZa1umKkddVGc27WXLcSQS4Q1Bx7IRNFVZybstA== X-Received: by 10.28.220.8 with SMTP id t8mr16772270wmg.114.1471516551856; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.54.202 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57B4A3AF.4060709@gmail.com> References: <20160817105110.588f2bd318cee357fc1e7f7e@yahoo.es> <57B4A3AF.4060709@gmail.com> From: krad Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Playing Blu-Ray Discs To: jd1008 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:35:54 -0000 ive never found optical media to be reliable long term so ditched that a long time ago, as spinning metal is cheap enough, even if its not spinning all the time. On 17 August 2016 at 18:49, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/17/2016 02:51 AM, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:10:40 +0200 >> Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> On 2016-08-16 13:33, Jonathan Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was wondering how would one play Blu-Ray discs on FreeBSD 10.3 >>>> or is this only in 11.0? >>>> >>>> That's not going to happen in a foreseeable future i.e never. >>> >>> HDCP is the problem, and i do not think the freebsd community has >>> cracked that yet. >>> >> It's forbidden to publish any work about craking HDCP. All I can say it's >> not harder than older methods. >> >> The solution, don't buy BlueRay to break off the product market. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection >>> >>> Personally, the only good use I see for blueray is the large capacity > backup in double layer BD-R media. > They are not worth it for me for videos because DVD's are just fine. > Some movies that are only avaialble on BD but not on DVD, you have to pay > a higher price for. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 11:53:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E13BBE5C4 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E89C122F for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id o80so28054587wme.1 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 04:53:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ub8Naf0DQ3KXeSRwMDoV0LMK6iMD9Rr4W/r/GbN0PUE=; b=PE+kqDtUl/R45j52MstrRIn5AEJFDlzwlwtuG8Kkqq7WQOZmiN482k+IStoLYZd56b /Z6zkWzrzN0kGwIKkHndata0uz2FtMBeKC9ygSa1OAYG8V5EJutDZViqcHRJtGpgp8Qg mQ7sXmxy6UmdxkFgAspWz+EorcDCmpOMXQIujj/O2EuJnwWVlbVH/JANxJUvKQZ6UQK7 /8DX0sQIxU2LjSBEGNMIF9PUB6rLy++/I6Qo2+87BTTI1i8WNUt7f80vILhqpmgfFwo5 CEcr0ov7iLVHw9bhG/tm3ronQK2RcfCsLMM2j2QVMjerscXUStpGd8Cln1PguLHCS6Uf SnZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ub8Naf0DQ3KXeSRwMDoV0LMK6iMD9Rr4W/r/GbN0PUE=; b=c1oC27O6+BY1+AFvnKKvJEmpLqNinqO8MQeO8BRo+WJ8CsUnfXPOaaKDLa9Hn2FCqN uLNJYn5p5mfYM9J+8eLYb/rmmgno7IBmsuctvdAA+2vWKp+E2rs/7yC6bKAovhVfXkhx 9tOxqAs4Bbu7bwbdr5SCYA+n5l00xfyCoWPOWa0MPE6RWxZ5RRvKaZdoHBRdquUmrSrk bRHgpyxgNBfKUasOPA8ta0LQzJbdpv0dZ9TAW7/KJ8p2IqEnJJy9moHff65TG+xRNrF1 qjCEgtov6gAmOrBF94lZW6aQ1/c3/1yl80gJZDUgAMFW35Mgy4tWwQqUo6sBIknDssLQ p7Gg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutkd5k+6kFQet/yNKnfYzhUT3sLuxygp0ibHHd2g7ewn7zMrO+BCz1hxx0Nu0b9bA== X-Received: by 10.194.7.100 with SMTP id i4mr1962576wja.154.1471521185897; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 04:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.171.74.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jv9sm1886238wjb.45.2016.08.18.04.53.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 04:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:53:01 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Playing Blu-Ray Discs Message-ID: <20160818125301.71cf547b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20160817105110.588f2bd318cee357fc1e7f7e@yahoo.es> <57B4A3AF.4060709@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:53:08 -0000 On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:51 +0100 krad wrote: > ive never found optical media to be reliable long term so ditched > that a long time ago, me too, but these look interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC Has anyone tried them? I think they need to be supported by the writer. 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[109.221.203.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b130sm1377078wmg.19.2016.08.18.14.45.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: vt(4) not power friendly? (was: High CPU temperature and high fans level) References: <20160718224548.T324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <578F5688.8010207@gmail.com> <20160720214809.M324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org From: David Demelier Message-ID: <216b40cf-d13d-bc8e-8e39-4d1de2b31fb4@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:44:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160720214809.M324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:45:31 -0000 On 20/07/16 15:20, Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:46:32 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > > Le 18/07/2016 15:41, Ian Smith a crit : > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 632, Issue 8, Message: 21 > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:59:32 +0200 David Demelier > > > wrote: > > > > 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : > > > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > > > > >> Hello, > > > > >> > > > > >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised > > > > >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. > > > > >> > > > > >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and > > > > >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). > > > > >> > > > > >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. > > > > >> > > > > >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in > > > > >> console. > > > > >> > > > > >> Do you have any clue? > > > > > > > > > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > > > > > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > > > > > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > > > > > > > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as > > > > suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little > > > > effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux > > > > and I got an average much lower (41C). > > > > > > We really need to see what speed the CPU is running at when idle. > > > > > > I think the fans running high - presumably from the sound and airflow? - > > > rules out the sort of sensor errors Arthur reported (ie below ambient :) > > > and I assume the box actually feels warmer .. 57C suggests a busy CPU or > > > two .. but then it is summer there; what background ambient temp. range? > > > > We have air-conditioning at work so ambient temperature is normal, somewhat > > between 24-28. > > Ok, just checking. So the temperatures are indeed obviously excessive. > > > > > By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than > > > > Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C > > Isn't that tz2? tz5 is only 55C in your listing (and not active), but > tz2 is indeed 78C and working the fan moderately hard. > > > > > almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux > > > > sensors is 55. > > > > > > > > I have no idea what's wrong. :( > > > > % sysctl hw.acpi > > > % sysctl debug.acpi > > > % sysctl dev.est # assuming intel? if not, maybe dev.hwpstate? > > > % sysctl dev.cpu # best while idle, maybe plus when busier > > > Thanks for your answer, here I posted the output of the sysctl variables you > > asked for: > > > > http://markand.fr/files/result.txt > > Thanks, that's a useful format. Well, a couple of things .. > > > I've ran them on a FreeBSD memstick, I needed to install a Linux distro until > > I can find a solution because this drains my battery a lot. > > But did you start powerd after the memstick boot? From the CPU speed, > assuming it was generally idle, I suspect not? > > The big surprise is that CPU frequency (at least when you asked) is at > maximum (except for Turboboost mode) and that it's only using C1 state > when halted. C2 and C3 states provide a huge win for power consumption > - and so proportionally less heat. Alexander takes it to the limit at: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption > > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 # the 'master setting' for cx_lowest > > # ==> sysctl dev.cpu > dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 14427us > dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/1 C3/3/162 > [..] > dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 13756us > dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/1 C3/3/162 > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2101/35000 2100/35000 1600/23888 1200/15000 > dev.cpu.0.freq: 2100 > > Also noted that it's running on battery (which is good for this purpose) > hw.acpi.acline: 0 > hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5 > hw.acpi.battery.units: 1 > hw.acpi.battery.state: 1 > hw.acpi.battery.time: 91 # can likely be doubled of better > hw.acpi.battery.life: 79 > > > The average temperature was 50C, a bit less than the installed version on > > hard drive where I have seen higher values. This is interesting. I will > > double check if something else makes the CPU more busy. > > Well you need to duplicate basic conditions when booted from memstick; > after boot, as root you should be able to: > > # service powerd onestart > # sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=Cmax > > and then observe dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.cx_usage .. > > Though whenever you plug it in, or unplug it, you'll have to set the > sysctl again, unless you update the settings in /etc/rc.conf (possible?) > > Which should a) have it drop back to 1200 MHz and b) allow it to use C2 > and probably C3 .. you might check dmesg for any mention of 'C2' or 'C3' > as certain combinations of chosen timecounter can limit C3 or even C2 > use, and will say so (usually to do with use of the TSC as timecounter) > > On 9.3 one still had to explicily set these: > !grep cx /etc/defaults/rc.conf > performance_cx_lowest="HIGH" # Online CPU idle state > economy_cx_lowest="HIGH" # Offline CPU idle state > !grep cx /etc/rc.conf > performance_cx_lowest=C3 > economy_cx_lowest=C3 > > But on head sources from a couple of months ago: > !grep cx /usr/head/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf > performance_cx_lowest="C2" # Online CPU idle state > economy_cx_lowest="Cmax" # Offline CPU idle state > > So you might want to check what is there for 10.3? Setting both 'Cmax' > (or at least to C2) should be safe, the head defaults above are likely > more conservative for a few boxes that aren't happy with C3 and higher. > > If that works, with powerd running CPU at 1200 MHz, it should save lots > of power and run plenty cooler. Good luck! > > Warner Losh has suggested disabling Turbo mode on these if having heat > problems, by adding (in your case) '-M 2100' to powerd_flags, but that > might be something for later. Meanwhile go for C2 and C3+ if possible. > > As for fans, tz2 and tz0 are the only ones with 'active' cooling, though > tz2 is the only one also with passive cooling, so is most probably the > CPU/s - see acpi_thermal(4). > > This one doesn't turn on passive cooling (ie slowing the CPU) until only > 3C below critical shutdown temperature, which seems a bit close to me. > > At that moment it was above 45C and below 62C, so running at level 3. > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TSP: 300 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TC2: 2 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TC1: 1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._ACx: 84.0C 74.0C 62.0C 45.0C 38.0C 30.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._CRT: 108.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._HOT: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._PSV: 105.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.thermal_flags: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.passive_cooling: 1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.active: 3 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.temperature: 53.0C > > This fan is also active at level 3 (0-based, so above 72C, with 3 higher > speeds to go). It can be hard to tell what TZ matches what 'device'. > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 105.0C 96.0C 87.0C 72.0C 64.0C 57.0C 30.0C -1 -1 -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 108.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 3 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 78.0C > > That one seems pretty high. I'd suspect the GPU(/s?) but you're not > running X, so hmmm .. definitely not CPU though. > > cheers, Ian Hello all, Sorry for this late response, I was in vacation. I've spent some time into this problem again, and I think I have found the culprit. I first disabled completely the new console driver vt(4) to use the old syscons and the CPU coretemp temperature immediately fell. Running with vt(4) and radeonkms loaded: average of 47, no X, just a plain tty with nothing running. Running with syscons: average of 38. That's why I've CC'ed to freebsd-x11@, Is there power issue in the new vt(4) driver? I've also tried with textmode with the same results. Regards, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 22:06:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8770BBE37C for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9875B177D for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u7IM6c2u090009 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u7IM6ccK090006; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jonathan Stewart cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? In-Reply-To: <159c6f79-7de6-1234-b5c5-588df8041085@kc8onw.net> Message-ID: References: <20160817210437.M79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <159c6f79-7de6-1234-b5c5-588df8041085@kc8onw.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:06:40 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > The device is still present but dd gives me the following. > storage% sudo dd if=/dev/da4 of=/testdump.bin > dd: /dev/da4: Device not configured > 0+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 0.001363 secs (0 bytes/sec) > > My best guess (assuming the error is accurate) is that I cracked the BGA > array and the controller chip is fine but it can't talk to the flash chip. In > which case a recovery company can probably either remount it or dismount it > and read it externally I hope. Damned expensive though most likely. Is that one of the USB3 versions? I have one of those, a Lexar S55 that gets burning hot during USB3 transfers. Data transfer is fast for a little while, then suddenly slows down as the buffer is filled or a built-in temperature sensor throttles it back. Oddly enough, a 32G S75 goes as fast but gets only warm. It might still work on a USB2 port, if it is a thermal issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 22:16:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B670BBE5DB for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69ADB1C39 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u7IMGIAD092509 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:16:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u7IMGItO092506; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:16:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:16:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Manish Jain cc: "Brandon J.Wandersee" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <864m6j3w9a.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:16:18 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:16:19 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Manish Jain wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:15 AM, Brandon J.Wandersee > wrote: Actually, SSDs do indeed make a > high-pitched noisen when active---at least the ones in my laptop do > (two different brands and form factors). The noise is very soft and > not really constant, though. It's more a syncopated, staccato > "crackling" that sounds like a whine during high I/O, and you aren't > likely to notice it unless the rest of the machine (and room, for that > matter) is nearly silent. So unless you notice that the tone and > rhythm of the sound matches up with the I/O of your system, disk isn't > a likely source. > > A bit surprising, because I believe SSD's don't have any moving parts. > The noise I hear fluctuates pretty wildly, most of the time actually > zero, and fairly prominent when I hover on the categories in the > Applications menu of Gnome. At the bad moments, it's like a crappy > bearing being driven by the creator of hell. If is it is the SSD > attached to a SATA3 port, it would be pretty damning because there is > hardly any I/O needed to generate the Applications menu listing. Well, they don't have any parts that move very much. But they do have some inductors, and those can vibrate during use because of the current flowing through them. It is a form of very inefficient speaker. Probably the amount of noise is affected by a dozen different variables, including individual hearing ability. I have a Toshiba SSD in a notebook that is audible. The sound is very clearly tied to disk activity. In your case, I would probably rig up some kind of stethoscope-like listening tube to try to localize the source of the sound. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 22:42:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7D7BBEB4D for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (host-209-190-254-14.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94CDD17B0 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u7IMWbIm044994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:32:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:32:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Warren Block cc: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions , "Brandon J.Wandersee" Subject: Re: Facing a strange problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <864m6j3w9a.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:42:44 -0000 On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Warren Block wrote: [ snip ] > In your case, I would probably rig up some kind of stethoscope-like > listening tube to try to localize the source of the sound. This is a classic technique for troubleshooting certain types of car problems. Take a short piece of tubing, or even garden hose; put one end in your ear and move the other end around to different areas of the computer (or car engine) to find out where the noise is coming from. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 23:18:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080A1BBF53E for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp) Received: from mail-ua0-x22e.google.com (mail-ua0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C050F100F for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp) Received: by mail-ua0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id k90so53543819uak.1 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:18:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brilliantservice-co-jp.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bjMzTar9zBDipSZA2qMaFMTMUS1uiBHRmarsa1CSzvY=; b=fd2VmEeZPpt+RPsBBzyWos0aAsBOl6aSmv+xzYIpJbjJViyxz/zodJmYzAoeiuvJrm 86nwd0Qf2veZwW1+XBxg2IODUpopKBu2ywJ/9IkiJVlFzqfiqM0rzFm0eyoOqJxKEEiq QqYFeUhwbOs6NsGFpA0to5iKt+vvsIw1HaulRVoqpabCLxrqb42SogWThnv2D3pJeMjL mY1ZB2gYMH3cqYR8XSqzBb3n2VQGs28fK/bzE1qOAwm4Ah/qjeNVGbDTbsxbQYxl7gXn ISE2XiIw5O4u+6QRVqyRepd6/0J8f+R3Fmkm2l6348pOw5AO6O+K8TkyDhng1RHo0dNC W2Xw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bjMzTar9zBDipSZA2qMaFMTMUS1uiBHRmarsa1CSzvY=; b=GV1XjdOCbHOFUryz/nfqeMmnHGJHS6AcMopm63FhPs3o2HtqYQp/F42dCfy85ZyOsF Mn46qL11i3zKgfMFkYKEDHw3Y/jQNUa6mqBkNGZkO/yeT4Riis4ewl/DrYqAsPkNVMW+ VdpZjuofcG0xyEdBt53NxoTv9IdWswGMRIJqdoUDkLllosaOJHoIn+6STjLMHDWW1U67 vlcEMETPkrXvPeVnKdOWYHWlQmpTUP/OZISENuDvgYL/W5HTz25aKaTSX6jG+mPfUmE7 PFQ9rJjxZdyrD61m+na9LpQz74IE43SJvdqzYzzKiE33C9X8T6Cs8XxRhWGf5NdIlw/O 9Neg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutIPOUm/md3KY3jtB14WwjnjjGNHYkpeej30ESJ5FZsiDm3YweRmYlEQC/GqorL444CTK4TABkRZSutxyF5i9kqj8FAj4tlN9HSbePPtbvgWfd4QnlQt1AGkH76jdCAjeFN5sSAxJ9j0yZO46RaBYk5WQ== X-Received: by 10.31.93.65 with SMTP id r62mr2473509vkb.149.1471562309696; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:18:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.7.33 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <216b40cf-d13d-bc8e-8e39-4d1de2b31fb4@gmail.com> References: <20160718224548.T324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <578F5688.8010207@gmail.com> <20160720214809.M324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <216b40cf-d13d-bc8e-8e39-4d1de2b31fb4@gmail.com> From: "Lundberg, Johannes" Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:18:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt(4) not power friendly? (was: High CPU temperature and high fans level) To: David Demelier Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:18:31 -0000 Hi I have been wondering about the same. I have a watt meter connected to my dev board and I can clearly see power consumption going down when VT is inactive. We should look into this. On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:44 PM, David Demelier wrote: > On 20/07/16 15:20, Ian Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:46:32 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >> > Le 18/07/2016 15:41, Ian Smith a =C3=A9crit : >> > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 632, Issue 8, Message: 21 >> > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:59:32 +0200 David Demelier >> > > wrote: >> > > > 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : >> > > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >> > > > >> Hello, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) >> and was surprised >> > > > >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in >> dev.cpu.x.temperature and >> > > > >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans ar= e >> quite low. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot an= d >> user login in >> > > > >> console. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Do you have any clue? >> > > > > >> > > > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the >> system >> > > > > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should >> have >> > > > > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. >> > > >> > > > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive = as >> > > > suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some litt= le >> > > > effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on >> Linux >> > > > and I got an average much lower (41C). >> > > >> > > We really need to see what speed the CPU is running at when idle. >> > > >> > > I think the fans running high - presumably from the sound and >> airflow? - >> > > rules out the sort of sensor errors Arthur reported (ie below >> ambient :) >> > > and I assume the box actually feels warmer .. 57C suggests a busy >> CPU or >> > > two .. but then it is summer there; what background ambient temp. >> range? >> > >> > We have air-conditioning at work so ambient temperature is normal, >> somewhat >> > between 24-28. >> >> Ok, just checking. So the temperatures are indeed obviously excessive. >> >> > > > By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much >> higher than >> > > > Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is >> at 78C >> >> Isn't that tz2? tz5 is only 55C in your listing (and not active), but >> tz2 is indeed 78C and working the fan moderately hard. >> >> > > > almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linu= x >> > > > sensors is 55. >> > > > >> > > > I have no idea what's wrong. :( >> >> > > % sysctl hw.acpi >> > > % sysctl debug.acpi >> > > % sysctl dev.est # assuming intel? if not, maybe >> dev.hwpstate? >> > > % sysctl dev.cpu # best while idle, maybe plus when busie= r >> >> > Thanks for your answer, here I posted the output of the sysctl >> variables you >> > asked for: >> > >> > http://markand.fr/files/result.txt >> >> Thanks, that's a useful format. Well, a couple of things .. >> >> > I've ran them on a FreeBSD memstick, I needed to install a Linux >> distro until >> > I can find a solution because this drains my battery a lot. >> >> But did you start powerd after the memstick boot? From the CPU speed, >> assuming it was generally idle, I suspect not? >> >> The big surprise is that CPU frequency (at least when you asked) is at >> maximum (except for Turboboost mode) and that it's only using C1 state >> when halted. C2 and C3 states provide a huge win for power consumption >> - and so proportionally less heat. Alexander takes it to the limit at: >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption >> >> hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 # the 'master setting' for cx_lowest >> >> # =3D=3D> sysctl dev.cpu >> dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 14427us >> dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 >> dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/1 C3/3/162 >> [..] >> dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 13756us >> dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 >> dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/1 C3/3/162 >> dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2101/35000 2100/35000 1600/23888 1200/15000 >> dev.cpu.0.freq: 2100 >> >> Also noted that it's running on battery (which is good for this purpose) >> hw.acpi.acline: 0 >> hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5 >> hw.acpi.battery.units: 1 >> hw.acpi.battery.state: 1 >> hw.acpi.battery.time: 91 # can likely be doubled of better >> hw.acpi.battery.life: 79 >> >> > The average temperature was 50C, a bit less than the installed >> version on >> > hard drive where I have seen higher values. This is interesting. I >> will >> > double check if something else makes the CPU more busy. >> >> Well you need to duplicate basic conditions when booted from memstick; >> after boot, as root you should be able to: >> >> # service powerd onestart >> # sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=3DCmax >> >> and then observe dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.cx_usage .. >> >> Though whenever you plug it in, or unplug it, you'll have to set the >> sysctl again, unless you update the settings in /etc/rc.conf (possible?) >> >> Which should a) have it drop back to 1200 MHz and b) allow it to use C2 >> and probably C3 .. you might check dmesg for any mention of 'C2' or 'C3' >> as certain combinations of chosen timecounter can limit C3 or even C2 >> use, and will say so (usually to do with use of the TSC as timecounter) >> >> On 9.3 one still had to explicily set these: >> !grep cx /etc/defaults/rc.conf >> performance_cx_lowest=3D"HIGH" # Online CPU idle state >> economy_cx_lowest=3D"HIGH" # Offline CPU idle state >> !grep cx /etc/rc.conf >> performance_cx_lowest=3DC3 >> economy_cx_lowest=3DC3 >> >> But on head sources from a couple of months ago: >> !grep cx /usr/head/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf >> performance_cx_lowest=3D"C2" # Online CPU idle state >> economy_cx_lowest=3D"Cmax" # Offline CPU idle state >> >> So you might want to check what is there for 10.3? Setting both 'Cmax' >> (or at least to C2) should be safe, the head defaults above are likely >> more conservative for a few boxes that aren't happy with C3 and higher. >> >> If that works, with powerd running CPU at 1200 MHz, it should save lots >> of power and run plenty cooler. Good luck! >> >> Warner Losh has suggested disabling Turbo mode on these if having heat >> problems, by adding (in your case) '-M 2100' to powerd_flags, but that >> might be something for later. Meanwhile go for C2 and C3+ if possible. >> >> As for fans, tz2 and tz0 are the only ones with 'active' cooling, though >> tz2 is the only one also with passive cooling, so is most probably the >> CPU/s - see acpi_thermal(4). >> >> This one doesn't turn on passive cooling (ie slowing the CPU) until only >> 3C below critical shutdown temperature, which seems a bit close to me. >> >> At that moment it was above 45C and below 62C, so running at level 3. >> >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TSP: 300 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TC2: 2 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TC1: 1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._ACx: 84.0C 74.0C 62.0C 45.0C 38.0C 30.0C -1 -1 -1 -= 1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._CRT: 108.0C >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._HOT: -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._PSV: 105.0C >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.thermal_flags: 0 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.passive_cooling: 1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.active: 3 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.temperature: 53.0C >> >> This fan is also active at level 3 (0-based, so above 72C, with 3 higher >> speeds to go). It can be hard to tell what TZ matches what 'device'. >> >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 105.0C 96.0C 87.0C 72.0C 64.0C 57.0C 30.0C -1 >> -1 -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 108.0C >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 0 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 3 >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 78.0C >> >> That one seems pretty high. I'd suspect the GPU(/s?) but you're not >> running X, so hmmm .. definitely not CPU though. >> >> cheers, Ian >> > > Hello all, > > Sorry for this late response, I was in vacation. > > I've spent some time into this problem again, and I think I have found th= e > culprit. I first disabled completely the new console driver vt(4) to use > the old syscons and the CPU coretemp temperature immediately fell. > > Running with vt(4) and radeonkms loaded: average of 47=C2=B0, no X, just = a > plain tty with nothing running. > > Running with syscons: average of 38=C2=B0. > > That's why I've CC'ed to freebsd-x11@, > > Is there power issue in the new vt(4) driver? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 23:48:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A46BBFE7C for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x22d.google.com (mail-yb0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 664AE179B for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id z10so10661736ybh.2 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:48:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=GHTk4/oFf3T9DFFqnp5YSL5IaFYRVwjuna5dTgNdeyc=; b=CId7irOoauArmUPQNBIghfH4o1ZKrrAXgjo5NPbsxnxz/SqCfr2UMi9+4Sa2U0Qkl1 YPtsfMCkTwupmBkXfpM65SdVTCmy6XMsx+ZEIUp109ubSnCx0Am4GalH2n0ohEvZSr9w 22y5IocPJucnSjdXOoduq8/RP20h5wZYU5Rh1FtCsLAfz68jDZ6LpkBGVz5BVWOKJzNc eWGrZHqzvK7+WDIXPlZK+WzEFzoCyhArEMtnkKutkirfMrsY8MPx94xNBwzmOpY0Ibw7 sHD0Iz/rNOxVds942gVvH3pquiw9MkESYk83hMAwgbj60q0as/+A0d8uanOxF1KInymG oBMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GHTk4/oFf3T9DFFqnp5YSL5IaFYRVwjuna5dTgNdeyc=; b=Is1dl7ivNEzqngQlDnO8ZEx0iuPKIvdJK1n9Fkjcd+iecetrmnJfyjS+6eKhBk/UAl fTZQrOKGJ/sTQuLGY5ewyW2v3VMwJGV55JGA6LFYcs7Nml3oxkLQ7Aw6DOfwmg2luFUZ RiXUAFFaEVJAfLt2izaNQBAWefEl7bMd3OI9r6v2Sf5/raKwvA12eJKvy7RoV74IFsgb 6vmCqZ1qzczTzk9pR4WQMpjSoreb7oqtaTUHN/Q1a/Ad74RmGqE7cY2hHpvvLgqZKRAe tGwOZhuQaf+IQn8/WdpC2I6yUes2xeemrHkSb3KxIiaTqlZi9CDQNZIrZ0HSnd3uEdN/ 1MdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouv0NCFNWFMd1bUyfpcKQBkCKNU3MdxeBrOsiPKnjpiQQ0bClVCEnlY0XMLCRrgf4nLzOXaz2KOMfTZxQw== X-Received: by 10.37.215.216 with SMTP id o207mr3859162ybg.172.1471564123507; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:48:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.199.16 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:48:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86469c70-043c-c47f-f359-430837ff2cac@ze.tum.de> References: <86469c70-043c-c47f-f359-430837ff2cac@ze.tum.de> From: Ben Woods Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:48:42 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update override changed files To: Gerhard Schmidt Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:48:44 -0000 On Wednesday, 17 August 2016, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > i have some FreeBSD servers and use freebsd-update to keep them up to date. > > every run freebsd-update claims that some files are locally modified and > therefore not updated. > > i never touched any of those files. How can i get freebsd-update to > replace those files with the actual version or where do i get the actual > versions to compare mine with them. > > Regards > Gerhard Schmidt > The freebsd-update(8) man page doesn't list a way to force overwriting files, but it does mention you can find out what files have changed by running: # freebsd-update IDS It also says the working files are stored in /var/db/freebsd-update by default. https://man.freebsd.org/freebsd-update Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 01:20:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270B9BBF900 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from mail.kc8onw.net (kc8onw.net [206.55.216.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B101164E for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@kc8onw.net) Received: from [10.70.3.102] (99-55-193-152.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net [99.55.193.152]) by mail.kc8onw.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29D953C82; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Lexar flash drive dead? To: Warren Block References: <20160817210437.M79687@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <159c6f79-7de6-1234-b5c5-588df8041085@kc8onw.net> Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:20:09 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:20:25 -0000 On 8/18/2016 6:06 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > >> The device is still present but dd gives me the following. >> storage% sudo dd if=/dev/da4 of=/testdump.bin >> dd: /dev/da4: Device not configured >> 0+0 records in >> 0+0 records out >> 0 bytes transferred in 0.001363 secs (0 bytes/sec) >> >> My best guess (assuming the error is accurate) is that I cracked the >> BGA array and the controller chip is fine but it can't talk to the >> flash chip. In which case a recovery company can probably either >> remount it or dismount it and read it externally I hope. Damned >> expensive though most likely. > > Is that one of the USB3 versions? I have one of those, a Lexar S55 > that gets burning hot during USB3 transfers. Data transfer is fast > for a little while, then suddenly slows down as the buffer is filled > or a built-in temperature sensor throttles it back. Oddly enough, a > 32G S75 goes as fast but gets only warm. > > It might still work on a USB2 port, if it is a thermal issue. It is a USB3 version and I've tried in in USB2 ports but I never get a chance to read anything, the "media not present" error triggers as soon as it's plugged in. I'm trying to decide if the data on it is worth 300 USD (which was the cheapest recovery quote I could find) to me. If anyone has suggestions for a person or company that will do it for $200 or less suggestions are welcome :/ Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 02:00:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F240BA9225 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@adadvertorials.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9D819E5 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@adadvertorials.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EA428BA9224; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D9CBA9223 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@adadvertorials.com) Received: from zpanel.adadvertorials.com (adadvertorials.com [139.59.248.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1DE19E3 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@adadvertorials.com) Received: by zpanel.adadvertorials.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 57CEE16161D; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:57:53 +0800 (SGT) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: fwd:What Do Olympic Gold Medals & Pokemon Have in Common?.... 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I am fairly certain that there would be others who have been greatly disconcerted by the topleft Hot Corner. It drives me nuts whenever my mouse accidentally touches the topleft corner. That gnome developers spent their time and resoucrces developing hotspot=20 is regrettable. That hotpsot is enabled by default is doubly regrettable. T= hat Gnome3 has no inherent setting for disabling hotspot - neither in the UI nor in the tweak tool, makes it triply regrettable. Level 4 regrets=20 happen too becuase there is an extension available at extensions.gnome.org for disabling hotpot. That extension used to work with my earlier FreeBSD/g= nome environment, but now does not. Yesterday, I visited the extension's home pa= ge several times in firefox (which has the Gnome Extensions plugin installed a= nd activation mode set to 'Always'). Installing the No TopLeft HotCorner=20 extension via firefox apparently succeeds - there is no error message.=20 But, in truth, nothing happens - hotspot continues to make a mess of the de= sktop. I have tried disabling the extension via chrome too, but visiting the=20 extension's website in chrome reports a problem with the native connector. I installed the Gnome Shell Integration Plugin for Chrome as per the documentation at the wiki URL, but when I visit the extension URL, I get=20 the message : Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected. Is there any way I can disable the topleft hot corner ? In the long run, perhaps FreeBSD could create a separate port somewhere=20 under x11* or desktutils which would natively disable hotspot. Thanks for any help Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 07:15:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F981BBFCAB for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFEF11CF5 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AB788D38 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/4AB788D38; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Freebsd Chinese mainland official mirror sites can not be used, how to open a new site? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <403b03be-306f-669d-2878-32e39502445c@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:14:53 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMkH6BEg5u89NrLjIjmVul5sABhoANaTU" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:15:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qMkH6BEg5u89NrLjIjmVul5sABhoANaTU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0knbQAlR148TfErNNkpLNrGVTKDjIFwx9" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <403b03be-306f-669d-2878-32e39502445c@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Freebsd Chinese mainland official mirror sites can not be used, how to open a new site? References: In-Reply-To: --0knbQAlR148TfErNNkpLNrGVTKDjIFwx9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/08/2016 05:03, YKLA wrote: > Freebsd Chinese mainland in all official mirror sites have been unable = to open. For example http://ftp.cn.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ >=20 >=20 > How New freebsd official mirror sites, or third party mirror sites? >=20 >=20 > I noticed https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/mirror-official.= html > -------------------------------------------------- --------------------= ---------- >=20 >=20 > 5.2. How to become official then? > We are not accepting any new mirrors at this time. > -------------------------------------------------- --------------------= --------- >=20 >=20 > So how should operate? thank you. Yes, the policy on FreeBSD mirror sites has changed. Partly this is due to infrastructure changes -- the Internet as a whole is very much more reliable, pervasive and faster than it was even a few years ago, and standard server hardware is now capable of much higher workloads. Meaning there's now no technical need to mirror FreeBSD content out to a large number of intermediate sites. Partly too this is about security. Inserting backdoors into install sets on a mirror site is an obvious attack route, and the project now requires full administrative control over all of its public distribution network so that it can have some assurance that sort of attack can be prevented. Is there some problem with your being able to access ftp.freebsd.org directly? This is now a globally load balanced service with points of presence in US East and West coasts, UK and Russia (possibly others). I believe the cluster admins might well be receptive to an offer to host another mirror in East Asia, so long as it can be shown there's enough demand to make it worth while. However the requirements are now much more stringent. See: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Teams/clusteradm/tiny-mirror Cheers, Matthew --0knbQAlR148TfErNNkpLNrGVTKDjIFwx9-- --qMkH6BEg5u89NrLjIjmVul5sABhoANaTU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJXtrH0XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATfTQP/j2HE4QN+uEFvwQkEjFTRtcm Ld6vrEB7JSlT38W7pWi3B0VNOPkIxLjQECgQYMlqXf0thLGGfdsWgM/DpUExpGzS DfTUZv50jDvXC1/jwk6JjAc1p1NWu/dFMSQrwdS25bAUuAcqaEkIlV/7fCU4a0H2 0RR7/z6f8dPv8xa7COHOB0yywFXApiLNNE8JCwEEZTZZIGgKDgXtFIEO+qk+MYWO IY+lt2NufZik1tt5SVdukJy5cAYZhFcZD9M6iv2U5bRcRsbzD1BbqO2kOMoKijIY /C0+EsJPVOpJeJqguQ7WWr2KFMweLgHIFgtufkFMKPH989VcgfkDR+SkBBrQJDS0 KewQHfF6TjrP5FrDdd5P/yTUaqYJqOW9A9SUS+OIj5PHM/eCGZ7nkLMBkK0BvHAm 1MXowza/IUPlG4WOS0HWeGvkm5wu1O2NtFe+K3DX/v0Z//GaifRXBOg+OYj+6iaR VxgNmpB6IuPsxwTu5+1IWjwWiyW66I1oFgrcibwvLv0PGncUtIjST/5JfdybKSKz HUMfY6FJ7xMjnZpOK08aEIMFYwzDnXTmY2VKtwpYI0tt1AJTFTkqeNS0j9Afv59C R+PBW6yP/H1mJlDhkZv/i+IAlWK71l9HXxiJq+Ql4aDQ4JqaudaIuJuQdoVVGpkP KDU5F16oW35Jut8Ih21i =PiB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMkH6BEg5u89NrLjIjmVul5sABhoANaTU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 08:00:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2198BBF7F6 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ykla@banbo96.cn) Received: from smtpproxy19.qq.com (smtpproxy19.qq.com [184.105.206.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FD831623 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ykla@banbo96.cn) X-QQ-FEAT: Tp2hW+Mew+ekGh8la+oMA/ySKmqJb3qdvXggbmKkOaxJ9zH9CHt6mE7W6XvqT rur7ovXPHz54wndf2UTkSZGKMxrBS4/4tq7mKEKOnL+3p8BjyhD2Yl3p3qtdSDWHZjG+YR7 dDcB1PHcll85Ti1d2AazbJDnnbdiMuNu7SP46HGMxHN6fmHTqajcCqoKqrtmcjtrf0MO1hQ MX8Om2BzWUBTpekH1BW+WGyHzNGks825qjaECSfE+CaqHGoj6LgN1 X-QQ-SSF: 00000000000000F000000000000000F X-HAS-ATTACH: no X-QQ-BUSINESS-ORIGIN: 2 X-Originating-IP: 106.117.213.218 X-QQ-STYLE: X-QQ-mid: webmail686t1471593617t505687 From: "=?utf-8?B?WUtMQQ==?=" To: "=?utf-8?B?ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM=?=" Subject: Freebsd11 no longer support UEFI? 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To: YKLA Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:11:10 -0000 I think its just all integrated into a single image now On 19 August 2016 at 09:00, YKLA wrote: > Is this here ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ > ISO-IMAGES/11.0 > > > And there is no UEFI boot disk, which I downloaded the ISO media is found > does not support UEFI boot, Freebsd not support UEFI yet? 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I was not aware there a separate list for gnome related list. > I'll subscribe to that too. > > Thanks for informing me. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb > sd.org" Try: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/118/no-topleft-hot-corner/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 09:13:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C159EBBF285 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY004-OMC4S8.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s8.hotmail.com [65.54.190.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E1E81D00 for ; 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A user broke my system To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:23:31 -0000 Hi, Today I had a user who decided to open a very large text file in pico. The result was a complete denial of service of the system and everything stalled/was working veeeeery slowly. Even after the user had killed the process it took quite some while for the system to recover and I seemed to notice improvements of certain services after having restarted them. What are my options to limit resource usage for users? I tried renicing the user's process but to no help and the problem was most certainly with disk I/O. I don't want a normal user being able to lock up my entire system just by viewing text files. So any ideas? Best regards, Magnus From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 09:57:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AE4BBFF8D for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DA541D60 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bagIM-0003qr-Un for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:40:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bagIh-0008a0-M8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:41:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:40:58 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system Message-Id: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:57:37 -0000 On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:23:16 +0000 Magnus Ahriman wrote: > Hi, > > Today I had a user who decided to open a very large text file in pico. The > result was a complete denial of service of the system and everything > stalled/was working veeeeery slowly. How much memory have you got on that box, and how much is in use normally ? It sounds like the system got pushed into swapping by opening that file. > Even after the user had killed the process it took quite some while for > the system to recover and I seemed to notice improvements of certain > services after having restarted them. > > What are my options to limit resource usage for users? I tried renicing Take a look at login.conf it lets you define many limits by login class - you can assign users to classes using vipw or chpass and of course with adduser when adding new users. > the user's process but to no help and the problem was most certainly with > disk I/O. I don't want a normal user being able to lock up my entire > system just by viewing text files. So any ideas? Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight on memory for your normal load. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 10:10:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F7BBF45E for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F55151C for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from hephaistos.local ([188.193.147.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MOCSm-1bVAzF2mcm-005Vou for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:10:41 +0200 Received: by hephaistos.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E5081297CDF6; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:10:40 +0200 From: "Martin S. Weber" To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? 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I don't want a normal user being able to lock up my entire > > system just by viewing text files. So any ideas? > > Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight on > memory for your normal load. Editors like e.g. vim will open a temporary file (for recovery) the same size as the original. Back in the day when I worked around ASIC designers, opening of netlists for manual editing was always done with an ancient vi (not vim, not nvi), which did not do that, as the netlists were usually several gigabyte big files (on shared sun servers with "only" several gigs of RAM). It does not have to be pushing memory. Just queuing up transfers to two different hd controllers can lock your (BSD) system down. Gimme an account on your box, limit my memory, and I'll still DOS it (putting pressure on different buffers by combining find with catting /dev/urandom somewhere plus continuously writing my memory allowance into files on different filesystems - at least that used to work the last few times I tried it, but I grew sick of dos'ing myself, so stopped the practice). It's an inherent design weakness in the school of thought "nice will take care of it, we don't need ionice or userland controllable I/O scheduling parameters". You can of course lock down the system by limiting process time as well, etc., but that either doesn't help for the duration of the limited process time, or makes the account unusable. Having to have the parts of the system you want to use already in RAM is not a proper answer either. I'm not aware of a proper adequate response in BSDs for this problem, and would like to learn a good answer myself. -M From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 10:17:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FAFBBF720 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 030C61A3D for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ephaeton@gmx.net) Received: from hephaistos.local ([188.193.147.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2L2a-1bHmSk1lGm-00s3Vu for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:58 +0200 Received: by hephaistos.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6480297CDF6; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 From: "Martin S. Weber" To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system Message-ID: <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> Mail-Followup-To: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KAfzlKY8OgHi+vpPMBxxGkQ0GXUwR9U3Ewq0DJ6JfKDsUM5L0NH 0kgwrvjwvflEGh7P0NJ9HmxYoq3w703jp8mO8CkKp31PcoRlIOM2BPPphg3h2im2o7Vl5YT OXn/YBcSxhlUE7H4Y5tmNpJl2BZEM7sN8mqOwa14ORFFCxxQQ+bBHONkAyCL+8G1dYXphVY VacEJXGYtEf9K5Wi+pFIQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ujfYIcvYPFY=:CviQScOqq2Pva7g6xb63/8 nZbSW5VgnC26Q9mVH2r0kn7IWW6BTA2TrmXtOifQn6F/gBrNQA/JUajKD0pjgt5+jPyQ22tNS CWW9GPJ0/G9CR1Tns/kSJgyXO/wXonCxOpnZR9/w4xE6ZKsPFO9rBHbku2Ir6sp7M/AloFw+t FxAn3Fg5r74zT+90Lj927q9tYBB16+toNjhWCB78Jv0EI1Ivjs5Sc1mLBzCIlQRl5X0EDwLrc kjR9LJZLE2AIa9ES/8TXQ56d1So7w23714wGl1/p7CFYlJJziqBnBjqZ54MfrRn5RCRQ537rL +R1psujIgqfaORipjlwRTdCUTbij0+V0MidDvHzq0W95Y0XStioB9WFH5JTexcZmw+emXbjJQ 6ycWPmDxMMwQEbLws5eUOy5bWKGNKIxQtFRbODeKBh/dDm0TDl8Uy6zxMPRqONqExMbsJaYUu jl4ZWYjC8YQdcOQnUK8N4r2vVRpAdDcyiNcRVtP72s/DhIqpmWYF4B2CrhapzQ0ibo+oYTOUQ 8k5pRrg6UsP00oaAgdwgdsi2EIXlAWG11+YcGS+GD5U5IUMkG+WNirDI7cxvP8nFjqlWI4dFb VaN/fjcBAMbr8KGt/yNToj2Kt8PiA8uGXerFsQyou37rgQhruDSuIfL5z6UxM338LSVZeJLFd 7q1D0iHyAYICuEztvcV86C5tNI1kPQxpOOmn/XsJd9kYsRf5OAiHD2hc6njdjCPh2eI2ww84Q 2D98fgfKjxB4LLK+uNtUR2XUaV2J2mnjXG+4ubdqcXyqzVou0Y9FmJ1uJBM= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:17:02 -0000 On 2016-08-19 10:40:58, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: (...) > Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight on > memory for your normal load. Which, as I might add, *should* be the normal usage pattern of a box. There's an interesting parallel to the bufferbloat issue here. "throw more memory at it" is not a good replacement for active smart queue management... -M From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 10:23:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6171BBF91C for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from b.painless.aa.net.uk (b.painless.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A0191DD0 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from woodcruft.co.uk ([81.187.49.114] helo=lime.woodcruft.co.uk) by b.painless.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1bafGy-0003iG-8n; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:35:28 +0100 Received: by lime.woodcruft.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95CDC54559; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:35:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:35:26 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Manish Jain Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to disable gnome3 hotspot Message-ID: <20160819083526.GB12515@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> Reply-To: Frank Shute Mail-Followup-To: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-PRERELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'woodcruft.co.uk' User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:23:40 -0000 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 05:16:10AM +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am using gnome3 desktop environment on my FreeBSD 10.3 desktop system. I > am fairly certain that there would be others who have been greatly > disconcerted by the topleft Hot Corner. It drives me nuts whenever my > mouse accidentally touches the topleft corner. > Hi Manish, I'm afraid I'm not a Gnome user, so I can only help indirectly. I would in your position, subscribe and send your mail to the freebsd-gnome@ list. I reckon you'd probably get a better informed answer than on questions@ about what is/is not possible with Gnome on FreeBSD. Also just lurking on that list you may become aware of features in Gnome that you may have missed. Be aware though, often a feature that you find hateful a number of people might find entirely wonderful and a non-issue. That tends to dictate if it gets any developer time. Hopefully, somebody shares your views and has found/developed a fix. In the worst case scenario: at least you've made your views known on that particular feature of Gnome. Regards, -- Frank https://woodcruft.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 10:44:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8EEBBFE0C for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F118418B8 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bahHp-0005TV-PM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:44:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bahIA-0009BC-FI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:44:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:44:29 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system Message-Id: <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:44:39 -0000 On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 "Martin S. Weber" wrote: > On 2016-08-19 10:40:58, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > (...) > > Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight > > on memory for your normal load. > > Which, as I might add, *should* be the normal usage pattern of a box. You want all the memory in use I agree, but you don't want it so tight that there is constant memory pressure so there should be a goodly amount inactive, in cache and buffers. If there is swap activity then you are too tight for the load. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 13:54:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BECBBFD19 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C5EC195B for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id o80so42190098wme.1 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DmGqIN6eoWbOHzf9zf4jzoHoxJWna/4NiJG0M6nqqjI=; b=T/ozpHXCeBmDTvtDSQmg38hK8Tb+9WK0AFfH4FvTIriwIeX6Ian0EXZFoca8LLva8M 7gqfQSPt0wk7GybHLhiuKudSnNfJIARqpuV8CtFm0TGldFKNUey6J6dtM1YYD5AFGZld 9pbkinPp+ATzNUEHv4iPPnposnxB3HWF3ccZbFjG+Nw8GVatkPdOYIdRFh5BYvw5HpLk EJAPoMM0Kg/PsVf1VsjxjQQwQjrX3y4zeTaXMUV0nAcJz1Y8Q2lD1H6loxzIMVO8zRP3 XA6+1vLfcplEyFYWlveS34zFWtW0yAYC2ql4bWrA5+syVFJHfJ2WKhAX/dsQjYoW7/eZ R8Fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DmGqIN6eoWbOHzf9zf4jzoHoxJWna/4NiJG0M6nqqjI=; b=TZ1UWr5b53v3EoWSR58nDG0CkMYs/mkrIalivA7j111lB7CkIXfNUQMkXxUJr1annG etO1nYYxFUgM/kLKrzt7QGsN/g0cSMdOvDMhy3XUHbjPDMmj93Sw8N+OYMgNnNTOSAh6 M6MdX0syRgypMrAWT119cBTg7DQLdVZcGVjemyLtt/MHSg3Qhitekygmr/n+Aaq7vM9h JMQb+2ydXlqeaPM0K1e0lFTcs0K4nmy9PZkrQRkJ32t9Tmyp7+aWnRSZYXMG2zhhgFDx pi3cXDcczWGN2dHz8F55Mdv3VvjMhzYjMHb0kfOfBRwbkuDA/8TNxo6OvKk6E3MprwMz 2rUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutTMbK+ydRFSJDTJhapfi5AyUn+LvsEiifjuH4YAmGfTT6HoAR4cIu9f5t0xbH/M7S+FZC8Omsts5ikzQ== X-Received: by 10.194.175.106 with SMTP id bz10mr7526940wjc.42.1471614878906; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.54.202 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> From: krad Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:54:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:54:40 -0000 Does the same issue happen with vim no nano? If not maybe just remove pico. On 19 August 2016 at 11:44, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 > "Martin S. Weber" wrote: > > > On 2016-08-19 10:40:58, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > (...) > > > Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight > > > on memory for your normal load. > > > > Which, as I might add, *should* be the normal usage pattern of a box. > > You want all the memory in use I agree, but you don't want it so > tight that there is constant memory pressure so there should be a goodly > amount inactive, in cache and buffers. If there is swap activity then you > are too tight for the load. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays > C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun > The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see > You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 14:01:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4412BBFFC4 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61F051E88 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id o80so42513770wme.1 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:01:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5cz/+e7OirKDoXbVqmrLVKNwPpbCG+kYZ0lFGLkFJaE=; b=ROUrPXxaI473BgL9qxTVKVxeVa4zPbiHxAR/nuMnrSxK6+WySKcpt0DbuTTkeV7bn6 lYU+Wh+xdwJi2y3OVwnxcPWcY6lzJpH+ZuCS5GVhd8bqhj+oxJG34dGh3a1N97+wYFDl 0oqmnXZzwbdrvOKLcagrxLsJFwmbrj1uDx2sI9LWhLZ+4OX/meqJSXZ6/ZJVrh4E/PAM KvzCDp6QlC/uI0x+K+dNOEdYqBjcPIyPtfTl9TQtB0EVEEpHXqysosjHNrEh2A78OuLi bnrCd/gkdtsiVF1Ue/S+qcmQuODAfGw7wS6gJFdZn6ni6dcRO9g+dfzrRxKJ7wBwH+IM Wl0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5cz/+e7OirKDoXbVqmrLVKNwPpbCG+kYZ0lFGLkFJaE=; b=NdlSb/5xUrNUbGRGrQz9dnRKfiYieOU8oAxiCXW8VkwA6kXft/o4skf1/xiNGTxMLi dcNyw7JkMDZvrUTHRomoWUnzLC0CvZ3+6re54n5rLNGYniDzLurVLsPnWiz6OPLAXh/w K8jcPDiyJrPdFPl7DzabDFpjSdwPQ13LokpdyBnEQl4nDyZZPLMh+VaAirxcfbErfQZL Sz9g5Mipi/gvrIu6mJLEUAmceTDY6BaGsANdszeVdT7DKq1+u4Z2Zqn9UTokpDEi5OCN kWCIvRNfivX35o2qGJNb2mknEZPY2BgVvPHWVOWj25MEtBScJwt8KehebW2EaGq2Va/5 s7Eg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouv7n3pLk/qFx2zMkDrr/PyniWD0FfVeV1UdAp/VmOdHC0AjbHbFx6PZHC5jcBO8EsWux3eL0dcqT52Xdw== X-Received: by 10.194.127.37 with SMTP id nd5mr6567479wjb.156.1471615302778; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:01:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.54.202 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:01:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5dcc797b-5aac-cac1-b120-b4ff91f360dd@tysdomain.com> References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> <5dcc797b-5aac-cac1-b120-b4ff91f360dd@tysdomain.com> From: krad Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system To: sorressean Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:01:54 -0000 maybe, but the simple answers are always worth considering. On 19 August 2016 at 14:59, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > On 8/19/2016 9:54 AM, krad wrote: > >> Does the same issue happen with vim no nano? If not maybe just remove >> pico. >> >> That's a slippery slope. Just use login classes to limit usage. > > On 19 August 2016 at 11:44, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 >>> "Martin S. Weber" wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-08-19 10:40:58, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>>> (...) >>>> >>>>> Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight >>>>> on memory for your normal load. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Which, as I might add, *should* be the normal usage pattern of a box. >>>> >>> >>> You want all the memory in use I agree, but you don't want it so >>> tight that there is constant memory pressure so there should be a goodly >>> amount inactive, in cache and buffers. If there is swap activity then you >>> are too tight for the load. >>> >>> -- >>> Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays >>> C:>WIN | A better way to focus the >>> sun >>> The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see >>> You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >> @freebsd.org" >> >> > > -- > Take care, > Ty > Twitter: @sorressean > Web: https://tysdomain.com > Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 14:09:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4483BBE289 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E9301638 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0EF2087A8A; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:59:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4hkhjndeG50A; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.30.8.75] (unknown [66.159.106.116]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19760208768A; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> To: krad , Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Message-ID: <5dcc797b-5aac-cac1-b120-b4ff91f360dd@tysdomain.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:59:18 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:09:04 -0000 On 8/19/2016 9:54 AM, krad wrote: > Does the same issue happen with vim no nano? If not maybe just remove pico. > That's a slippery slope. Just use login classes to limit usage. > On 19 August 2016 at 11:44, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 >> "Martin S. Weber" wrote: >> >>> On 2016-08-19 10:40:58, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> (...) >>>> Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight >>>> on memory for your normal load. >>> >>> Which, as I might add, *should* be the normal usage pattern of a box. >> >> You want all the memory in use I agree, but you don't want it so >> tight that there is constant memory pressure so there should be a goodly >> amount inactive, in cache and buffers. If there is swap activity then you >> are too tight for the load. >> >> -- >> Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays >> C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun >> The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see >> You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 19:05:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FE7BC0CBE for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward5m.cmail.yandex.net (forward5m.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:b030::1c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B84DE12A5 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::27]) by forward5m.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7722520FEA; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:05:34 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5575D2940D9A; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:05:32 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 1SUH6Z2bSh-5VV478jp; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:05:32 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1471633532; bh=K6TJHxgIBEPEgcWEbmC3fXlPdWzbzWb7sp5ZADbhzFA=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=cmPxXJ2ezYTNg4SqYg65ek7AUuQVdPrU4UHKrO5ZnqRBvZHipVU4TmY2d9Tvt9b4b A58IZ4Vbn3LICQs497AuE0LmiJEcO2nneVx997Dj6cpX4Et8FbSl5Z/b7Uqr7dq9MN P8cNL4oOE/8GHHtHoW6KjCbcvFPUnjytgUFPB6TY= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1471633528.16259.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: How to disable gnome3 hotspot From: Stari Karp To: Manish Jain Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:05:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <20160819083526.GB12515@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> <1471597750.93221.0.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:05:38 -0000 On Fri, 2016-08-19 at 09:12 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > That is precisely what I had already done in firefox (and chrome > too). But it's not working. Which is why I wrote the original post. > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Stari Karp > wrote: > > On Fri, 2016-08-19 at 08:40 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Frank Shute > > wrote: I reckon you'd probably get a better informed answer than > > on questions@ about what is/is not possible Thanks. I was not aware > >  there a separate list for gnome related list. I'll subscribe to > > that too. 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A user broke my system To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:28:31 -0000 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:01 AM, krad wrote: > maybe, but the simple answers are always worth considering. > > On 19 August 2016 at 14:59, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > >> >> On 8/19/2016 9:54 AM, krad wrote: >> >>> Does the same issue happen with vim no nano? If not maybe just remove >>> pico. >>> >>> That's a slippery slope. Just use login classes to limit usage. >> >> On 19 August 2016 at 11:44, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:57 +0200 >>>> "Martin S. Weber" wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2016-08-19 10:40:58, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>>>> (...) >>>>> >>>>>> Very likely the problem was due to memory use and you are tight >>>>>> on memory for your normal load. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which, as I might add, *should* be the normal usage pattern of a box. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You want all the memory in use I agree, but you don't want it so >>>> tight that there is constant memory pressure so there should be a goodly >>>> amount inactive, in cache and buffers. If there is swap activity then you >>>> are too tight for the load. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays >>>> C:>WIN | A better way to focus the >>>> sun >>>> The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see >>>> You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>> @freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Take care, >> Ty >> Twitter: @sorressean >> Web: https://tysdomain.com >> Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Depending on the nature of the box, one possibility (albeit a slightly more complex one), is using a jail. If basic user accounts are in a jail, the jail can run out of memory and start file swapping without affecting the kernel or other server functions. Again, this depends on your set-up, etc Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 20:34:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C26BBEDA6 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D9801F32 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1baqVD-0001hX-O1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:34:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1baqVY-000HjB-4r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:35:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:34:54 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system Message-Id: <20160819213454.7aafe1353a90f986dd1539b1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> <5dcc797b-5aac-cac1-b120-b4ff91f360dd@tysdomain.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:34:58 -0000 On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:28:29 -0400 Mark Moellering wrote: > Depending on the nature of the box, one possibility (albeit a slightly > more complex one), is using a jail. If basic user accounts are in a > jail, the jail can run out of memory and start file swapping without > affecting the kernel or other server functions. Again, this depends > on your set-up, etc A VM can do this but not a jail. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 21:11:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F52BC03E1 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward4m.cmail.yandex.net (forward4m.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:b030::1b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FF9A1333 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp2p.mail.yandex.net (smtp2p.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:7]) by forward4m.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 65BF0206EB for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 00:11:23 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2p.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3BC2F1A80034 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 00:11:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp2p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id OYuDleqEve-BLnqfpDU; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 00:11:21 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1471641082; bh=x3QpEWU9ufW3XNmJectubHQ3IzhB6MEcUl/NCkT2I60=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date; b=GPkeBGfgTVRsu00Zlf2Wp+Bb7TlYVYGsjYwqHZn4a0btwcA7QEAq+Ip8hWHOYRAWD N0pi4tvkNM7UzvKqhAiY+TTCphoffFtk3SS0eYvGOMmZ54yTbUtgWWZyY2nA8ZRSe+ RjGXtAcXNi9wXBeBkRMcRqZMMCyms/dVVlnhxDSg= Authentication-Results: smtp2p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Message-ID: <1471641079.53058.3.camel@yandex.com> Subject: LibreOffice vulnerabilities From: Stari Karp To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:11:19 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:11:27 -0000 Hi! I have installed and I use LibreOffice Version: 5.0.6.3 Build ID: FreeBSD ports 5.0.6_2 Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8). When I run pkg audit I get: libreoffice-5.0.6_2 is vulnerable: libreoffice -- use-after-free vulnerability CVE: CVE-2016-4324 WWW: https://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/freebsd/3159cd70-4aaa-11e6-a7bd-14dae9d2 10b8.html It is dangerous for using it or is safe, please? Thank you. SK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 19 21:18:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FBEBC067B for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com (mail-oi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81A181845 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id c15so80633108oig.0 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:18:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=Y/O/00KeHeMYYdkhEsI+20iJ/v0qzsv+WbCRM9c+HS4=; b=yr7561brzN4NzQnGzVGnTz0SCIX6R/NLKmw4uDVUF6XT7zMTUus7uOpUdE9VSyIop6 /cJ0UEmV1GorpkWqq8kh2iZ+ml+0nwM8An6OqOIMDPwZj12nDE0TyNQdsMSqLfbSIuKr 2D13mz8MzVG73bpNTZ9/WGIHhbu5Stel3l3lpwCVlC49JFgfMQTRfMHbowQLI0Eqq1ha Kppfm3wzG8qkOF/TjIxEGKvrjRrrMl43htvN6cZbDTvdkonRqTyiLsMJxYrnbQsgn+vl pQTKcZyIossnidSFqqJvFM7VmSUYs0y/FYCS3KDtUg/8W7tmA7QKFXprdjb8P94BHfe/ xPkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=Y/O/00KeHeMYYdkhEsI+20iJ/v0qzsv+WbCRM9c+HS4=; b=ez6LwYI11HH2bOR8ezPgzNKSuKt5J8JQVgwq/OiGcwjuq0ERYuuh5ySeur0flwd0F4 b9BKKyEn5iykN5h35Auaer/9TlYVcLjdKETKQsY/pRaSHpqThmET0NZkwL0Y/bVOqDSD WE7NmhXmwOKkC1FlaotM/dwTy3/xeoW8YSUnxwU5JcVZMuG1fbVBri+D4A/RbKsgZFYh WoihiuCdrxa809lbMZquJHrnhXYSBRpaE6FwvpxnPLzBmSJ+sGSy3VsFnCaw+t4ilH9v JOy5ab0Y+MiWDLqmmloza5mEVfdp4fYrx1JjeBhWG2xNyw3xoPBA4/r8sh7HGec7j1os NSWg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouux1KixREwr+TZ/BWdk7UjmwWMyH5cmonsmZHyO897t52NP3Izn3VTUwL+Nw9a6EeIAb08mTJhuSCT1fQ== X-Received: by 10.157.21.26 with SMTP id u26mr5779022otf.100.1471641505622; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.226.195 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160819213454.7aafe1353a90f986dd1539b1@sohara.org> References: <20160819104058.1c60a63fb832fbdc1524207c@sohara.org> <20160819101657.GB2560@hephaistos.local> <20160819114429.756b3d25f9335417a0c673c3@sohara.org> <5dcc797b-5aac-cac1-b120-b4ff91f360dd@tysdomain.com> <20160819213454.7aafe1353a90f986dd1539b1@sohara.org> From: Mark Moellering Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:18:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I limit I/O usage for a user/process? A user broke my system Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:18:26 -0000 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:28:29 -0400 > Mark Moellering wrote: > >> Depending on the nature of the box, one possibility (albeit a slightly >> more complex one), is using a jail. If basic user accounts are in a >> jail, the jail can run out of memory and start file swapping without >> affecting the kernel or other server functions. Again, this depends >> on your set-up, etc > > A VM can do this but not a jail. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" At the risk of flogging a dead horse; I thought you could in a jail but it turns out you cannot, however, you can use rctl to set limits on a jail. I find jails pretty amazing but, as I said in my original post, this is a much more complicated solution... 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[63.231.135.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q204sm3110677itc.19.2016.08.19.16.54.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT) References: <1471641079.53058.3.camel@yandex.com> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Stari Karp Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: LibreOffice vulnerabilities In-reply-to: <1471641079.53058.3.camel@yandex.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:54:11 -0500 Message-ID: <86a8g8mi1o.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 23:54:18 -0000 Stari Karp writes: > Hi! > > I have installed and I use LibreOffice Version: 5.0.6.3 > Build ID: FreeBSD ports 5.0.6_2 > Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8). > > When I run pkg audit I get: > > libreoffice-5.0.6_2 is vulnerable: > libreoffice -- use-after-free vulnerability > CVE: CVE-2016-4324 > WWW: https://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/freebsd/3159cd70-4aaa-11e6-a7bd-14dae9d2 > 10b8.html > > It is dangerous for using it or is safe, please? > Read the vulnerability report and determine whether it affects you. You're going to see them regularly, so get used to reading them. In this case, unless you open lots of RTF files or Korean documents from strangers you can't trust, you've got nothing to worry about. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 08:36:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B10BC0CBE for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22d.google.com (mail-ua0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 773311729 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 74so116395301uau.0 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:36:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QLzb5kxHNSa4vDPRNn3BNudlcKMoxe0HUzqYaqZFjbI=; b=rVneFhshQkZHV/mx3IXj5s/KRPWu+5y2ddAR1xz8pSABmY5qfKXQzk0myqZBp1pnKh JHuH1/a7cHcvMu4wbAMN7ZXxe4DMBaSMT0hOu9KhsuoAwNSHMCh+VYcYU5v/CPFy+o2B gj/60pM+4m0/QuZQh7Pgzx1kv1XeZaxw8h569drhMGhGKlmAIbvFjlCsl5hpk+srxw4Z KSS4z6aJ7XlFJEOCg5qvOoMZhT5DuvJ80RvIFLVkoPlCMHkHwdX5KbHs8s6yJQj4dML+ O4QBDanRtpbsMgMDAyCbC9OIYbVG4VHk+rH+z0b7wECMaFGGyjgKaxqb43Ai7rCNld6V fVSQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QLzb5kxHNSa4vDPRNn3BNudlcKMoxe0HUzqYaqZFjbI=; b=RwXrv2pyBBImpFi5/6sY9fDtI7LstbrpqMV6DgntdkSgwDwfVvi9792+WcqZa6x2F3 cApSk416OcHed8Pss7T8G0sk2SO+rCUkdfFKES2GUem3RXVe6pV/Ng8G/mYQPdgSngnR glqlf2AaLs8h0bftCq0769MwoMNx/UnPRBbFbkxMk1YZ7cCXFGVtCOBN+zuv/oTopnyz G8rpfzLi/bwZHb5loW85LDStpiuAECOh+OT1ZfdB3rPxPeBOVcxDuvgG5/ShNn/0GNwc zwqY7fH6oWTQqiR5xhfJpTEIu7idcHLgZPAy8I+keYbZHgzbJIhivMHywM7Dr8+cKwR7 a9jw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousMRmPYYA7213ecu0+ObrfiGxbVL9/TTASzQoxRbSj26+PkeOX1kkV+MfA71Z5VfORP8yHpDDrY8DCAJQ== X-Received: by 10.176.7.34 with SMTP id h31mr5975825uah.127.1471682185339; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:36:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.75.79 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:36:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David Demelier Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:36:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: jail -r does not remove a jail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:36:26 -0000 Hello, I had a jail that can not be removed after a poudriere jailure: # jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 50 127.0.0.1 desktop-103-amd64-default-job /poudriere/data/.m/desktop-103-amd64-default/03 # jail -r 50 50: removed # jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 50 127.0.0.1 desktop-103-amd64-default-job /poudriere/data/.m/desktop-103-amd64-default/03 Why does it say removed and it's not? What can I do without rebooting to kill this jail? Regards, -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 10:54:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CF4BBA061 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7021194 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39323348; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:54:26 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u7KAsgo8061449; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:54:42 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u7KAscoa061448; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:54:38 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:54:38 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root on ZFS, LiveCD and BE Message-ID: <20160820105438.GA59960@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20160815145419.GA3619@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20160815231414.GA84125@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160815231414.GA84125@neutralgood.org> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:54:45 -0000 Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > > > Which is the appropriate maillist to ask questions about Root-on-ZFS > > systems? Like the ones below: > > It's a reasonable place to start. Folks around here will point you in the > right direction if the answer requires more expertise. Folks, please do :-) > > 2. Sometimes it's necessary to mount a system's root from another > > > system (LiveCD, mfsBSD or similar). To do that, you have to import a > > > ystem's zroot pool on another system. Is it safe? Is it not going to > > > render the *original* system unbootable? > > You can use the altroot property to be certain that anything automatically > mounted gets mounted underneath the directory specified by that property. > Give the zpool import command the "-o altroot=/some/path" option, and make > sure that /some/path already exists. > > You can also import with the "-N" option to prevent automatic mounting of > datasets in the imported pool. > > But, really, take a look at the mountpoint property for the root filesystem Kevin, this is all good advice how not to screw up the second (fixit) system into which the zroot of the first (original) one is being temporarily imported. However, I am more concerned about not screwing up the first, *original* system whose zroot is temporarily mounted to another fixit system and then again used as a bootable root pool. What would you say about that? After I import a pool into a fixit system, it won't become unbootable or something? And I had another question, which was also important. I'll repeat it in case it got missed somehow: Boot environment selection from the loader menu does not work on 10.3-RELEASE, or it seems like it. I have submitted a PR https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211835 but maybe it's me doing something wrong? Could someone reproduce please? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 11:02:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCE8BBA322 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E56061609 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2E48E376 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/E2E48E376; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: jail -r does not remove a jail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 12:02:32 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DiRFcCs469dH2u4Iahs1uehIrFa3vcrv7" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:02:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --DiRFcCs469dH2u4Iahs1uehIrFa3vcrv7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="47eXkoIebA7Fts6TXgEiE9drCdb7WD2IA" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: jail -r does not remove a jail References: In-Reply-To: --47eXkoIebA7Fts6TXgEiE9drCdb7WD2IA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/08/2016 09:36, David Demelier wrote: > I had a jail that can not be removed after a poudriere jailure: >=20 > # jls > JID IP Address Hostname Path > 50 127.0.0.1 desktop-103-amd64-default-job > /poudriere/data/.m/desktop-103-amd64-default/03 > # jail -r 50 > 50: removed > # jls > JID IP Address Hostname Path > 50 127.0.0.1 desktop-103-amd64-default-job > /poudriere/data/.m/desktop-103-amd64-default/03 >=20 > Why does it say removed and it's not? What can I do without rebooting > to kill this jail? Do you have a stuck process still within that jail? Try: % ps -J 50 -ax If you have such processes, killing them should allow the jail to shut do= wn. Failing that, does 'poudriere status' show anything still running? Can you use 'poudriere jail -j jailname -k' to shut it down? 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What can I do without rebooting >> to kill this jail? > > Do you have a stuck process still within that jail? Try: > > % ps -J 50 -ax > > If you have such processes, killing them should allow the jail to shut down. > > Failing that, does 'poudriere status' show anything still running? Can > you use 'poudriere jail -j jailname -k' to shut it down? > The jail that was causing problem was building www/npm, and I just discovered this bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=209158 So I was indeed completely hit by this bug as well. Unfortunately I needed to do a hard reboot. -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 12:34:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670E7BC087F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 12:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22e.google.com (mail-ua0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2209B1D70 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 12:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 74so121562893uau.0 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 05:34:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RMUwwiLfWPVNFH6Qq0tYQJH6SeOOvPTlggpMMoAQUjU=; b=DMRvPCZiqzaI4wY61xwCN21euBevDMmhv+Em7zGp0yQNgYnbIXi6Heu7FyPhIzqk6Q QzDkGx3U2yZ35ElKoiOMvBJp8qH7yDci43brCVZWvpn0RsxNRD9mbN6iE5e7w0rnwkld sVNz9bnDHC7L8+KJJoGfbmAqxqpEeLbiPE4HJuiPV3U65rQf73fZoODlQKXifffEH5c9 4L72db/LtHkGvOl/3zHze+LzYaXEa1ax5KNnQymoo6+VSFdscrU5DLneSN8o607YBJK+ 9G+TZCYwtLxSEKJPmjRJ0QB+rUJE9hBI3y0E/bEpeGkNc/Xx0ygh7VWqvaQA6UgrNVcM 5gbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RMUwwiLfWPVNFH6Qq0tYQJH6SeOOvPTlggpMMoAQUjU=; b=Zln9PKtAkON1wa7FeEICd+0qeZQTaGB5cVkMAnkmaL0lxUkJ270YB5sQTblpxYAugz tUa4mi67IBxwiZMcu7b5cfWxT3IQeLkF/QtVSNj7SAL9lbuiqs+sTLPbWD1o2vFT7pgh MD/wsKHjWC7oESTM1Z/MLQOui4MJCU+g3PNZid3y6VRLUzqOTIRvklWvIKpTWY49/ajO UaqWyhD1bT6YVFjKG600xG7vkFkFrZCN9KE0ZoHwG2lD5rF5kgzLFjueRJEtlo86zQe7 /KLWzX3rUJI/9fJ0Wqt2AR2wHXsuEA5q11PrhhN5OKz5GR1EhaK4eQruikRupTVOlrR6 lFMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvuQ0r4Cvge6ASE3ienP7QvZKVjoL8fURKKZhUofqAvI9faoZH4cI8YpPaZ8Nv8mEAVww/z15jc9SLo3Q== X-Received: by 10.31.107.89 with SMTP id g86mr5594033vkc.52.1471696455292; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 05:34:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.75.79 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: David Demelier Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Safe to buildworld/buildkernel 10.1 -> 10.3 (skip 10.2) To: Chris Stankevitz Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 12:34:16 -0000 2016-08-17 19:17 GMT+02:00 Chris Stankevitz : > Hi, > > Is it safe to upgrade directly from 10.1 to 10.3? My systems are not > connected to the internet. I upgrade by sneaker-netting /usr/src and > building world/kernel. > AFAIK, there is nothing wrong in upgrading in more that one step. The /usr/src/UPDATING tells if there are something to do before updating, it's pretty rare but sometimes it's needed. I remember a version required to build the config(8) tool before anything else. HTH, -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 23:44:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B82BC0A25 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.5.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 501831A07 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 30FCE34C8A; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:44:42 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1471736682; bh=BPxCfz1v7NhP32xFlFiJl8khQsAQrRaPE5R4Z6T9CBk=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=Hz1gBv8x8mhO+33lPbswe6Z4dQZ/EKNK8yJHdaQ42fvgEmNJBCcM5vf2YY0/Kz222 yFGhNADJtJy8r5VQ89c0vzfkhFkNmgNdw+7YHdlvNR601tmVTJQepFE+BoTTAxf28x wmcyBTsHsMpzLEQ9wO2S6ZGqT0E+02qHvHtI9Lzs= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h4.esturion.net [65.101.5.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 898F734C83 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:44:41 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1471736681; bh=BPxCfz1v7NhP32xFlFiJl8khQsAQrRaPE5R4Z6T9CBk=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=lilyODqtte2M75Ma3NrGDK/VUE0WMQbHcZDYzKifAvZGCfixJBf8LFX8wJc3iAA8e mRbYB3cGQCDFDisR4R/NfaM8CrbcNqlCZCBW9qfCMtajta7ijPmRKkheamefvXsFIl Es8b10SYxcOL09d6VPIagQNa1DHkuIPH3I9zNMWA= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Russell L. Carter" Subject: erm shot my foot off with zfs, q on rescue Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:44:41 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:44:49 -0000 Hi, So I misfired and hosed my 10/stable zfs / mounts by running zfs set mountpoint=/ zroot/zetc so that now I don't seem to actually have any of the uh mandatory system directories visible. (turns red) No emergency thankfully, I've got three border gateways and just got all three happily configured so if I had to I could just reinstall this poor innocent one that I accidentally shot in the face. But as it happens I pulled it and have it interfaced with a keyboard and monitor and have booted a USB 10.3 stable install image. I dropped into the shell, and ran zfs list and it comes up with nothing. My thought is I'll just do zfs destroy zroot/zetc once I get the zroot pool imported. So the questions are, how to import the existing zpools from the install image shell and once that is done, what is the best strategy for undoing the damage? (I absolutely *love* zfs, just got done moving a fully configured poudriere installation to another box via zrep, wow is all I can say. My botch here comes from wanting to make a lot more things zrep compatible.) Thanks! Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 23:51:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BA3BC0EAA for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69C3E152A for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id f65so76168140wmi.0 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:51:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cq15f3z5fiHJ2lCIRwBu2jE+x1DqpvA3khfReAqTfOE=; b=qNaVAXij6N4BGHuGSxcVFvTHcUjo7ZNcDKCcZ3jmBQzhq0YQFxxY7K9N7IPEdBu6ka gmK0MKNixE+Q5oPjNhzukuhkg9sO6tPoQ3JDLceAWdg80ylnRjaVE4BQsqKjNFhn9ySo cmLLSwGq+J6Q5dU3++XHbNKpAjyDfc8C22fgmVftJcdRALGel89AqSSVSv9IRGztvclx 86hW+0BKLdqcEl1v+TxIIatmqLA/M0g4NI5wugLHWgHD7is31r9sFVjiW7TzDa/SRzlp ycHHUi9keYEf61qOHJtaFBkP9y5djjVYl3hcmkjP8nLwpVJ/ZmBhl4oo3FdvFx9FiwWQ OSIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cq15f3z5fiHJ2lCIRwBu2jE+x1DqpvA3khfReAqTfOE=; b=bFDHFn4Ed6IMp3WMyEF22BY8br8cKLj+2qGoenYhJZe/QOgxChJIoR/XLWfkrWt+FX qzd9XwHTrAZvinZeLpTyquNaFtKnpLMLV074mQQ4IFmpdfkArWxSWn9TvpzlQQiFB0A0 d/QDVU3XM1kUCp1r8sWUo7DB39GwCV3YlonUvhjEWRdvAWsP8xO20Dg4n1MCh5gfvLsa sO5PTZgCVrWMUXp4UZlvynagklY17eBONKWSTWQDpdLPszAi7sMCFK8irQRd5TvJc3SV 06C9Ka2p7f+I4gVbATu5wkzZN2lcqE0WO825hzv0DRHpFg/mplkeitncEvWU3Mk4roQM 4swg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvqj928iHYebX7o8tRIcJX22lSVX8ineaNsq3+okcQ5jobIR4yAfM3jQx1f1u8nLg== X-Received: by 10.194.156.195 with SMTP id wg3mr11587421wjb.152.1471737098730; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osk.homenet ([2001:470:196e:13:f2de:f1ff:fed1:783c]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z18sm11913217wmz.6.2016.08.20.16.51.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: erm shot my foot off with zfs, q on rescue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Shamim Shahriar Message-ID: <614e5532-b929-1e68-aa86-2e75b157565a@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:51:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:51:40 -0000 On 21/08/2016 00:44, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > Hi, > > So I misfired and hosed my 10/stable zfs / mounts by running > > zfs set mountpoint=/ zroot/zetc > > so that now I don't seem to actually have any of the uh mandatory > system directories visible. (turns red) > > No emergency thankfully, I've got three border gateways and just got > all three happily configured so if I had to I could just reinstall > this poor innocent one that I accidentally shot in the face. > > But as it happens I pulled it and have it interfaced with a keyboard > and monitor and have booted a USB 10.3 stable install image. I > dropped into the shell, and ran zfs list and it comes up with nothing. I'm not sure it is supposed to -- your boot disc has no knowledge of available pools or the zfs available. The better way of doing it, if I understand right as to what you are trying to do, would be to run zpool import that will show you available zpools. Then you can import the pool using zpool import you can even set different mountpoints etc., the export it, and then fix the mountpoints as to where they are supposed to be. Hope this helps. Regards