From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 01:54:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06648CD1D3C for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from mail.neu.net (neu.net [162.217.113.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gaq5.x.rootbsd.net", Issuer "gaq5.x.rootbsd.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBEA01662 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [162.217.113.162]) by mail.neu.net (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1C1XBjV037437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:33:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:33:11 -0500 (EST) From: AN To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Firefox build fails Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:54:32 -0000 Hi: FreeBSD BSD_12 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #13 r313546: Fri Feb 10 10:04:11 EST 2017 root@BSD_12:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 Trying to install Firefox fails with the following: ../../js/src/jsarray.o: In function `js::NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroup(JSContext*, JSObject*, unsigned long, js::NewObjectKind, bool)': /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/js/src/jsarray.cpp:(.text._ZN2js35NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroupEP9JSContextP8JSObjectmNS_13NewObjectKindEb+0xb59): undefined reference to `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' /usr/bin/ld: ../../js/src/jsarray.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value c++: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) gmake[7]: *** [/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/config/rules.mk:802: libxul.so] Error 1 gmake[7]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.0/toolkit/library' gmake[6]: *** [/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/config/recurse.mk:71: toolkit/library/target] Error 2 gmake[6]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.0' gmake[5]: *** [/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/config/recurse.mk:33: compile] Error 2 gmake[5]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.0' gmake[4]: *** [/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/config/rules.mk:523: default] Error 2 gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.0' gmake[3]: *** [/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/client.mk:413: realbuild] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1' gmake[2]: *** [/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/client.mk:168: build] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1' ===> Compilation failed unexpectedly. Any help fixing this would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 03:05:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC55CDC164 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC101173C for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntcmgw08p ([61.9.169.168]) by nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20170212030526.DFSF2121.nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p> for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:05:26 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([110.141.193.233]) by nskntcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id jf5S1u00652cND201f5Seb; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:05:26 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=DL5ymH5b c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=cG9NA9Rk7h1Cw5K5CT8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1C35QOX067672 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:05:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1C35QLp067669 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:05:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:05:26 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Question on upgrading ports after 9.3->10.3 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:05:38 -0000 Me again :-) I finally got around to following the notes that David Wolfskill kindly provided (thanks!) and apart from some oddity about "httpd" requiring a missing "libdb-4.2.so.2" (which will get rebuilt anyway), I'm a bit wary of this: 7. Back up any files in /usr/local that you wish to save [...] 8. Manually check /usr/local [...] to make sure that they are really empty. Errm, why? Is it going to clean out /usr/local from under my feet? If so, then that's a bit rude... Because of disk space limitations, I've got /usr/ports -> /usr/local/ports (/usr/local is a separate file system). And then there's all my private stuff... I think it means "save any local configuration files etc"; if so, it could be better phrased. PS: For those who also have a Mac, do *not* futz around with symlinks in this manner, as it confuses the hell out of macports... -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 03:14:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274DCCDC370 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [198.144.209.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0E521C0C for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1C3ECUX098567; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:14:12 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1C3ECgl098566; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:14:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:14:12 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Dave Horsfall Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Question on upgrading ports after 9.3->10.3 Message-ID: <20170212031412.GM1523@albert.catwhisker.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yUFMDpz/Lk3eb6u6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:14:14 -0000 --yUFMDpz/Lk3eb6u6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 02:05:26PM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Me again :-) I finally got around to following the notes that David=20 > Wolfskill kindly provided (thanks!) and apart from some oddity about=20 > "httpd" requiring a missing "libdb-4.2.so.2" (which will get rebuilt=20 > anyway), I'm a bit wary of this: >=20 > 7. Back up any files in /usr/local that you wish to save [...] > 8. Manually check /usr/local [...] to make sure that they are really=20 > empty. >=20 > Errm, why? Is it going to clean out /usr/local from under my feet? If= =20 > so, then that's a bit rude... Because of disk space limitations, I've go= t=20 > /usr/ports -> /usr/local/ports (/usr/local is a separate file system). = =20 > And then there's all my private stuff... I think it means "save any loca= l=20 > configuration files etc"; if so, it could be better phrased. > .... My interpretation is that the concerning directives (copied form the tail end of the portmaster(8) man page) are referring to subdirectories of /usr/local that installation of ports may modify -- e.g, bin, etc, lib, libexec, sbin; probably a few others. I have no reason to belive that /usr/local/ports will be harmed... at least, unless something goes wrong. :-/ Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org How could one possibly "respect" a misogynist, racist, bullying con-man??!? 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Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a POLA violation to not make it clear. Second, the '-f' option does delete libcheck. Does installing devel/check cleanly fix up unresolved dependencies? If not, use of -o is the right answer. I'll admit that I m not sure. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 07:06:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1361CDC0AE for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [203.23.236.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8933B182B for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (unknown [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB36E4C183C for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:06:49 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1C76msS088654 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:06:49 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <58A00988.6070009@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:06:48 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:06:55 -0000 On 12/02/2017 16:43, Kevin Oberman wrote: > First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for > each pkg command. Yes. Were this the case, this thread wouldn't have existed. > Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a > POLA violation to not make it clear. I've been POLA'd a few times with FreeBSD over the last couple decades... I'm used to it now :) > Second, the '-f' option does delete libcheck. Does installing devel/check > cleanly fix up unresolved dependencies? If not, use of -o is the right > answer. I'll admit that I m not sure. I'm not sure either. I did 'pkg delete -f libcheck' and then 'portmaster -a' again - devel/check installed, whereas before it would not. I was happy. But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :( ...something about "/usr/local/lib/libcdio_cdda.so: undefined reference to 'mmc_get_hwinfo@CDIO_16'"... -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 07:11:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9E6CDC1D7 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x241.google.com (mail-wm0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F0021B93 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x241.google.com with SMTP id v77so13210193wmv.0 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:11:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H9TmMHcndZMabbUo9eZDLdzpEP/ZN2kGbGwura+uEiA=; b=MyJ62hA5tXVUNYZxxVNQJ3H67/BaMhJaYPV92rmGtrBdTEp7h59axnvE5vTxKm87BN AUhiCK32UdHdgiIAgV4eEv7EeFcmN4KywWqlAqDbYwH8ccctRdjlPgohgSBVVgke4EON TsrPxtguwgdrLMWuRY2D+Pyzn39j1QYGRMS9yV1XkmsVo5/p7YqxIpXgenvAEDZLSdKA /J9jYHN+ci17KcD4/5swnSmYfEuNeX0+xlnqlAkq2jNG9YLZrPdxmNn6kG9b0BkvsElQ MQnIHr5gtza3bXcyaZ+BnlsVmCAyYoPO4vI+YzvvkJM8qWs1GA5cPLDBMCe6UjjsNl3E Iv2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H9TmMHcndZMabbUo9eZDLdzpEP/ZN2kGbGwura+uEiA=; b=uhOXQxxzIB94Z2TFS/EysyhiWDNvRp357DkpiY7BFjj84U7hw5qT6/PqXzLTALJW+i w8cxd/uimH3QBDsQ1or3v71ny/4qXk3+bhFGUpNV0PNadfXu3uFuHbvQBBLsWlcEjVJR VSI2M8XvEpCT7wJ0Rnucy10WC4w8qIeMrm6b5H9A4/cDQDo9/cWshT888Lo7ybisy3Ik Q9eMPguetr1r7bD3VJNY4PeTbyomSkTBoWCCauP95snlrXtqcXPrD2hyT7r6f5qtllGW DdTbVFw3n/ij5qZ+hH6LsxHQ+SlqrxXGxzBKAEcFOLsdqLtcImwbz9wjfxxgYlsnqQzy qesQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39n3FnX40SI6T1n4xd4cL4XFRMGjR5jSM7VS9SdSCtK4qdG3IrjL7JRCiYY4wtGHlV9ALeKbC11eDExFgw== X-Received: by 10.28.224.213 with SMTP id x204mr12812069wmg.82.1486883493743; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:11:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.164.65 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:11:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> From: Adam Vande More Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:11:33 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: devel/check To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Andy Farkas , FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:11:35 -0000 On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for > each pkg command. Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a > POLA violation to not make it clear. It does so on my system in the same manner other modular software does eg openssl. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 07:32:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0DACDC617 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot0-x236.google.com (mail-ot0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AF5764C for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot0-x236.google.com with SMTP id f9so52071725otd.1 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:32:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=63WFuCBieXhAMi3Pay5tabt39Ei5cTyaT+oAguz2Nfo=; b=s9cOIl80HMmtJuinojQn6DIW5OzjVWePEXnp3DbxjYlGdKvOYWPuCOtac9O9acx4cs d+02P6PElVFOuLwhKPEWiF26Fv2PR0KcztLRNf/7L5glTDHwECDQRdcYGnYF+Al5Ty8I gQ4yTIyrK2hPjGw16y1m6vXlJg3185owtvDn0llasGTCSKY0n2ePL6KntsZLamK4sZcF lCeKqL5EeXCyiNk3nGYQBiiFHoHabGjU7gCuU0odUYyp7gB57sF7cfxcIWl26Qv6bY1n t08rx255egUi+7wli47d8q1kOEgB95vUWI6E+M9SyYVbh8K79igl2+AmccaD1QDJ8XoO OAzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=63WFuCBieXhAMi3Pay5tabt39Ei5cTyaT+oAguz2Nfo=; b=W+YOwvPlsEYG995JWvy8Yz5wI65ofhtGBqs4UTGejDPXiTxN5+bdu9gAZwO9oaESUy u4QgOTjmf3mH0p8gxrJTMDgoPLhyYkgzrmrVH8EgjIVy5PBlFuKr1dxHwerdYcH4hEO9 qCLbABUNkKCBPOJMUUmXuJKhoU7S4Gp2EEoxEVgQeBwzIjo89C5ofOxkCZfbkLZpoERk 7Zz4GUq/LM4+ewaj9hizuUEA9UaTqHXNg9wKGvLz5JEqcxoMIyNjznZfM+NETztlN6zl ASWESQaq9PUugGF4R7MaFmpTN2YAA824VefrVD2rllM9KpoqvQ60ft/rhQmrT4h3a9Cp j4mg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mpFg/A2M3sUJDSq9Yync6Oo16ycGaa1Jb/XG1q6zkJLVuy6epspPjzGFbcL6KtUcQyCzyZnfb14hZmxQ== X-Received: by 10.157.1.210 with SMTP id e76mr9866219ote.211.1486884746400; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:32:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.74.32.79 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:32:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <58A00988.6070009@andyit.com.au> References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> <58A00988.6070009@andyit.com.au> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:32:25 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jxoyAzCjwUP7jKPdRzP0XPL8Kts Message-ID: Subject: Re: devel/check To: Andy Farkas Cc: FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:32:27 -0000 On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Andy Farkas wrote: > On 12/02/2017 16:43, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for >> each pkg command. >> > > Yes. Were this the case, this thread wouldn't have existed. > > Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a >> POLA violation to not make it clear. >> > > I've been POLA'd a few times with FreeBSD over the last couple decades... > I'm used to it now :) > > Second, the '-f' option does delete libcheck. Does installing devel/check >> cleanly fix up unresolved dependencies? If not, use of -o is the right >> answer. I'll admit that I m not sure. >> > > I'm not sure either. I did 'pkg delete -f libcheck' and then 'portmaster > -a' > again - devel/check installed, whereas before it would not. I was happy. > > But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :( > > ...something about "/usr/local/lib/libcdio_cdda.so: undefined reference to > 'mmc_get_hwinfo@CDIO_16'"... > > -andyf > Has sysutils/libcdio been re-installed? I should expect that the symbol is from that port. (Educated guess.. not a promise.) Might be a dependency issue. I don't use maplayer2, so I can't try checking my dependency tree. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 08:21:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29212CDA2A0 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) Received: from tatiana.utanet.at (tatiana.utanet.at [IPv6:2001:938:1337:25::25:46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF41E1E3B for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=utanet.at; s=rev1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=jpadZrwf4gBAJHN3964nEcAUmoKYelC48EieaBoKw4Q=; b=XJWNuopYX0tcB81D18WWzeqIG+bR8lclIaKVSQ+NkAZyKHHTYO4h2VrZhcngB2vukJPofUxnLSFYf7rDcg0kRmDj9YqMWvD3ZN7eU7JtuEn1KETKXSb7o52btv9MUO5p1aduPNITJ2ZFmW7nodYEh2LkUWpvCtAmHBo2b4/gpGA=; Received: from patricia.xoc.tele2net.at ([213.90.36.9]) by tatiana.utanet.at with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ccpPB-0002Q2-9O for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:21:09 +0100 Received: from 62-47-170-73.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([62.47.170.73] helo=[10.0.0.93]) by patricia.xoc.tele2net.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ccpPB-0002Al-7Z for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:21:09 +0100 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Walter Schwarzenfeld Subject: Troubles after libGL update Message-ID: <330b1f10-1c68-c3d9-0cea-59bbac2fedf2@utanet.at> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:21:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TELE2-Authenticated-As: cf62768e218b4d81d95cc5390f1bd9dfc8b05683 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:21:15 -0000 After relocation of libGL, some applications does not start including some editors and libreoffice. Cairo does not only compile without libGL option. I have not tested all, but I guess l a lot of ports and programs have problems. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 09:01:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6336CDC4CD for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45F451903 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id v77so13458359wmv.0 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:01:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=JrMsPeMW+E5KY9U59rqDjKUEdBrAdMeyiKXk3g3ir68=; b=WE7VupO5YH9nMrXQIVcXbxGAl8har8VEgW/2pFm1RD5w3ELPFViuPSDIYfwNvUUWe2 04/2K2iItrS9JEtWTuv7iQAVi+2qxFjyXQqI0OfRqlLqRQHFvaeQNGeoX0qBSjzURqrp 7zZSQp2RZxGyQhCpBD8qYxkyl0/UmBQ1ZpOxC4CPYwBtn3RRga2sJjZSPpdq5/dShz2A CX++xPpOjFCrR2otKkTC5XBY5bPC3ZeARYRbWi1onNja71DYwjvZyEWM1IgLwIJBfpn2 dOs0wwho/xZslxOk6uIzPXEncEGMWJ5YGQFZAvaHMItZCdjMy5hjl54DDynCTxulGW6X Zm9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=JrMsPeMW+E5KY9U59rqDjKUEdBrAdMeyiKXk3g3ir68=; b=Fvia6+NmQmftPVjrwh870G99VVM1+bDR73GhcU+4wjxJnRfGKa3ppu1fWDpRuUoCcY puChYyvwGEVPw+mhLivpMh//sJkRPsOeS5vdzAXz7A/BEbQ238VynabRTjy++jfmo0pm LcE/yCkwU7tXBSTDU2mxPFJSGgDxVPEgK5J1o26PhtyDRdpGwyecIXOK7voXzXRrBy2j pKcGrEhewOOb8cvlzL2o8Me9qNbunLZS/bHyQiTM2xWpRPD/HssYOifehWihVmf/6ZrI lLBd3mGXfI6ZhbzcyquCg/1JQU9gbP+Ie4mKdo4C+sA0MVVVzMKFUWaQJAHAyTO1M0DY 2+gw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39m1W6205mSuCmi4/UxTFfKGalE/LFES4uzobiZKpcWWXsCyA7iJ79PzLGLlKt6mjg== X-Received: by 10.28.169.142 with SMTP id s136mr32577409wme.9.1486890077785; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k142sm647149wmg.31.2017.02.12.01.01.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:01:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:01:15 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Andy Farkas , FreeBSD Ports ML Subject: Re: devel/check Message-ID: <20170212090115.jyfptcniv6pnstdz@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5xdi7ln4v26zq7mh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170128 (1.7.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:01:19 -0000 --5xdi7ln4v26zq7mh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 10:43:57PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Andy Farkas wrote: >=20 > > On 12/02/2017 09:24, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: > > > > It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete". > >> > >> > > My proposal is that the man page for pkg(8) should state this. > > > > -andyf >=20 >=20 > First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages f= or > each pkg command. Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a > POLA violation to not make it clear. pkg has plenty of manpages all of which are specified in the "SEE ALSO" sec= tion of pkg(8) which is a standardize section exactly made of that. --5xdi7ln4v26zq7mh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAligJFgACgkQY4mL3PG3 PlrEvBAA1+xsE0w0NbmZwlXn4w4TMkR5k85kpkyJiU+Mt68cEoGqEzzWKyqIGKM+ jTCIZ+CuPEj9YJBktDPZwKnG+/ZfSSPQpGVLX5onE8tN/Qy24ePe7OO4Y7NCocEV OR1j3J64xcHjtbI9z4jPCRYLhuefOmQfL53IcBrsd+Z5LcjuhznvuvN19Qj8pJNV q4A1LxtnhmUaejQIeeQE2BCVDpGeR3jRRTncDM6XO1J+9paw2R3OxoaGvbibNfdp /NOcOv7hH2IGiTo5QPEY0IpHj5KeHbhun3a2QZracU5q9RQ3xMMl56dNrrqEepTx tFFpU7NtVaORKUuiwm3Ugwwc3MfNANjNMmnrILgMjBlimRf3ukaQHBpiGas09H+t E0+7NWNol4hnZkObteMVP3ABPNROT6UvJ/i0GPYqxti0oJXpn29mIZQScyWLkfnp 1t18lI7T2mgbyHKu/VzX9NE+vZYQLwFgu9JkVPgmWDqsQSE4jEqM2qHOo9RNPtdy q0EAOBR5gUAOOdPwjR6BmMzcUpqTOOvSFpi88RV+v5t3H8OStz4joY0/Fv4Ci1zA Sl9lc06snbfHVSn91oWPy+gpXDktBL9DFFNh0oJTNc+R4+0c1CvG9/a1KRWvFTpJ AI+8tgLEcyecLSlVvrADJjt7039COHafEcF3zGjpplNWSSqv8+Q= =AVgg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5xdi7ln4v26zq7mh-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 09:13:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7B4CDC729 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [IPv6:2407:e400:1::b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F66A1F96 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (unknown [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7F5E4C2062 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:13:37 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1C9DbHS088947 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:13:37 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <58A02741.4060305@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:13:37 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> <20170212090115.jyfptcniv6pnstdz@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20170212090115.jyfptcniv6pnstdz@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:13:43 -0000 On 12/02/2017 19:01, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > pkg has plenty of manpages all of which are specified in the "SEE > ALSO" section of pkg(8) which is a standardize section exactly made of > that. The man page for pkg(8) does not explicitly state that the sub-commands to pkg have their own man page. SEE ALSO is not an indication that you should read those bits to find out about flags for pkg(8) commands. Just sayin..... I was gonna delete this bit, but might keep it: For example: % man 1 ls "SEE ALSO ... xo_parse_args(3)..." ??? why? -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 09:40:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F5ACDCBC1 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) Received: from taro.utanet.at (taro.utanet.at [IPv6:2001:938:1337:25::25:45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F408C135B for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=utanet.at; s=rev1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Subject:References:To; bh=+MORkhCRuRgXzZwMbP5ft9n6r5NbbKf0zDgDvByyDUY=; b=YhytGHiJQqxIJhy7B7T50S43sM4qyEiyZE0Bnb4TedLqQuemyQ1bnlMflg7m+XLInRv9Yy9wlQ1C9QnBqEd/25Ophg8V8yb+llf7Ksk+4ye7M3mzi5cvXROfG6/rneFWy0CMPo0lJwKAtOrL/NnMw+W/shI6PPH+sjRNMe5HsV4=; Received: from plenty.xoc.tele2net.at ([213.90.36.8]) by taro.utanet.at with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ccqdT-0002lr-UJ for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:39:59 +0100 Received: from 62-47-170-73.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([62.47.170.73] helo=[10.0.0.93]) by plenty.xoc.tele2net.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ccqdT-0000Dv-Sa for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:39:59 +0100 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <330b1f10-1c68-c3d9-0cea-59bbac2fedf2@utanet.at> Subject: Re: Troubles after libGL update From: Walter Schwarzenfeld Message-ID: <7de9bb41-8205-9f20-96ee-e40502926a47@utanet.at> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:39:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <330b1f10-1c68-c3d9-0cea-59bbac2fedf2@utanet.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TELE2-Authenticated-As: cf62768e218b4d81d95cc5390f1bd9dfc8b05683 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:40:02 -0000 Ok, editors works again, after recompiled cairo two times. I Don't know why it not works after first recompile. libreoffiec was the old lzmalib problem..... From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 10:05:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8A8CD912F for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 088231E40 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nschwcmgw07p ([61.9.190.167]) by nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20170212100501.TTGF28550.nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw07p> for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:05:01 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([110.141.193.233]) by nschwcmgw07p with BigPond Outbound id jm511u00B52cND201m51GH; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:05:01 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=at5PcntV c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=UDZMrqRVs0qGg1dYVVcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1CA50D4089111 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:05:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1CA4ww8089106 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:05:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:04:58 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Problem with building libgcrypt Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:05:13 -0000 Rebuilding ports on 10.3 after upgrade from 9.3, on the final portmaster leg: libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libgcrypt.a libtool: link: rm -fr .libs/libgcrypt.lax sed: /usr/local/lib/libintl.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libintl.la' is not a valid libtool archive *** [libgcrypt.la] Error code 1 ... ===> Compilation failed unexpectedly. Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=yes and rebuild before reporting the failure to the maintainer. *** Error code 1 Stop. (Followed by a few "Aborting update" messages) Ummm, that's equivalent to the M$ "solution" of trying a reboot to see if it fixes it. It's asking me to review those errors before it continues; what could be wrong? Think of me as a beta tester for novices :-) -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 10:06:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672FACD91C9 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx1.mailbox.org (mx1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DFD71F08 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E53145A60 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:06:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id c1BPITux75_O for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:06:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:06:30 +0100 Message-ID: <86h93zafkp.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: multimedia/mplayer2 (was Re: devel/check) In-Reply-To: <58A00988.6070009@andyit.com.au> References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> <58A00988.6070009@andyit.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:06:40 -0000 Andy Farkas skrev: > > But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :( Why do you use mplayer2 (instead of mplayer or mpv)? And why is this port still in the tree? * snapshot is from 2013-04-28 * github.com/mplayer2/mplayer2 is no longer updated * http://git.mplayer2.org does not exist * mplayer2.org redirects to http://www3.mplayer2.org (no content!) -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 11:19:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6DDCDC144 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay114.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay114.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43FBB1898 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AeBgCEQ6BY/1fag21eGwEBAQMBAQEJA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBg1JREIEJjlORGikBlQyCDCKFegQCAoJ6QRcBAgEBAQEBAQFiKIRqAQU6HCM?= =?us-ascii?q?QCxgJJQ8qHgYTiW6xLotCAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEkizuKOQWbcoZvixh2emuON5MVI?= =?us-ascii?q?QE1gQA0KgiHAT81iWgBAQE?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AeBgCEQ6BY/1fag21eGwEBAQMBAQEJAQEBg1JREIEJjlO?= =?us-ascii?q?RGikBlQyCDCKFegQCAoJ6QRcBAgEBAQEBAQFiKIRqAQU6HCMQCxgJJQ8qHgYTi?= =?us-ascii?q?W6xLotCAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEkizuKOQWbcoZvixh2emuON5MVIQE1gQA0KgiHAT8?= =?us-ascii?q?1iWgBAQE?= Received: from 87.218-131-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([109.131.218.87]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2017 12:18:14 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1CBICTC001142; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:18:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:18:12 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Dave Horsfall Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Problem with building libgcrypt Message-ID: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:19:28 -0000 On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:04:58 +1100 (EST) Dave Horsfall wrote: > Rebuilding ports on 10.3 after upgrade from 9.3, on the final portmaster > leg: > > libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libgcrypt.a > libtool: link: rm -fr .libs/libgcrypt.lax > sed: /usr/local/lib/libintl.la: No such file or directory > libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libintl.la' is not a valid libtool archive > *** [libgcrypt.la] Error code 1 See the 20140909 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about missing .la files. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 11:27:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8D8CDC3D7 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A9931C38 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([77.178.3.68]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MFctN-1cZtlX0dq1-00EeZL for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:27:46 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2894423D20E for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:27:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Question on upgrading ports after 9.3->10.3 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:27:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KBTwgUsIyVBX5AecO80djLK2T3FGTIVgh4RqRYcgO4TbRSS+Quv uJ5EvpQQmsgytaCJ6dO8Cg7gtlyQuSjCSVxjn36+rU6D6nou1aSw5GvSEu8+sY3vC5JQmqD tL/RD9qI19xyu5Fxa0YcdH8esG8rAEYhGo/1GMm3vTimzL3een3+kPEb7QYPojBv2qC3TJR dm9Sd+rKcP/XLWD1XRi4Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:HKc9NcO4HNE=:wmBVAtZqeH73SbYSke1GD4 3sT5z8oMQZC52t91den6wWf/Q08yL/9njaZtBVa0k6SJs5uwGqtyERIdo1+B0aMwyhkQ4NFdp ASA0tzcQIDDYB7dsVAFMbXBfa+5yA4z2Bk7K7Fbd+VkjwBxkHS4DMadQ0QtG/zwEz7U0J5PsH Q90yC7YtdeVKbeT8BCRWLphLNJS/QW9TtoqgzlN5aPXUYOeozjKaLRjsWveUUXNL/ZTovSTrJ ESneKjuqF6wlds/U5raICIdud5biL0AdyHYB4z1UrlsHe8Q2vPLfSHDTjoOIfu3FiQbKQ14FB 47CerF8zyQTax+mRug0cpKNff6ZvI/coKgofyLds2Fn34n7p4qn+hi5Jv2naq19Gd7M2GQI/T iS4EewqxHe1NCT+Wc6RYZMDpqmyf+2XpfHdC7l/egqTkZ87HWadZeCf5ketMGOBOA3irUFeLk HSJgpZfWkS6k5KMnBGzKcoV/ft2SIzJGh13R0HvMQBHt3rDH95Xx0qqPq5LlmYe1qZO3rA9Dt ZeuPEbLOOSCOQv3Pr3MDdujiOEY3wyLW2C82cpDPHq4R5QAPsoiuoQn6hSp5bgTYcpTp/VJxn g+GQv71DgokQUnHghoHuR0V0Isx827cdyUkyd3n1cxSusaWhPvVMb66HB3HEClIPcMqWGRWRF v/HgxI3/sOKmkMnN3wQT8RPyqCjFMxymn/zD5ttg8rf5G/Kcd675lyuP3S0aDdoEmIm4lGuRB xwCRNZmoTaEG1O/z67f/9sVB8lBLwqy3H1GWP6T+C2oeZwZGwF6vwEh5Bux5a7pNyt/rqdGwQ r3nldHw X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:27:50 -0000 Am 12.02.2017 um 04:05 schrieb Dave Horsfall: > Me again :-) I finally got around to following the notes that David=20 > Wolfskill kindly provided (thanks!) and apart from some oddity about=20 > "httpd" requiring a missing "libdb-4.2.so.2" (which will get rebuilt=20 > anyway), I'm a bit wary of this: The underlying assumption of all upgrade instructions also is that you start from a fully updated "old" system, i. e. 9.3-RELEASE-pwhatever (some p>50 IIRC) plus fully updated ports as of 9.3, as of "just before EOL", i. e. 2016-12-31, possibly with the 2016Q4 ports branch rather than head. If something requires libdb-4.2.so.2, then you haven't seen to your system since summer (northern hemisphere) 2014, and expect things to break. It may be easier to backup configuration and user data, and rebuild a new system from scratch in your situation. Note that I'd removed Berkeley DB 4.2 from FreeBSD's ports tree 2=BD year= s ago, exactly 2014-08-21T22:50Z, leaving only 4.8 and newer at the time. , and= running a web server that you haven't updated in 27 months is *not* considered good practice. Please plan sufficient time to maintain your software and install security updates thoroughly. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 11:28:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68503CDC425 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [203.23.236.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 308671CE3 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (unknown [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7354C15EC for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:28:12 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1CBSBRY089259 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:28:12 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <58A046CB.7060002@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:28:11 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multimedia/mplayer2 (was Re: devel/check) References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> <58A00988.6070009@andyit.com.au> <86h93zafkp.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: <86h93zafkp.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:28:22 -0000 On 12/02/2017 20:06, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Andy Farkas skrev: >> But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :( > Why do you use mplayer2 (instead of mplayer or mpv)? Good question. I guess I was thinking that mplayer2 was one better than mplayer. > And why is this port still in the tree? > Another good question... -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 11:39:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8988CDC5CD for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926731048 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8ECE2CDC5CA; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E733CDC5C8 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7931047 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OL900LK0FFQGF00@hades.sorbs.net> for ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:47:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Mark Linimon Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> <20170211002035.GA11637@lonesome.com> <87172bcd-3305-0e80-ddea-81f388291e2b@sorbs.net> <20170211180403.GA14424@lonesome.com> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: <8f101b68-889f-6b41-64f6-6aa8ede2efe4@sorbs.net> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:39:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 In-reply-to: <20170211180403.GA14424@lonesome.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:39:49 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:51:41AM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> Tell me.... What is the reason for me upgrading those few production >> servers from 9.3 to 10/11?... bearing in mind the following: > There isn't any ... oh, except for no new security updates. But that's the thing isn't it... what security updates? If I take away the ports installed I don't actually think there is anything that can provide a security issue, at least not one that wouldn't be creating a massive ruck around the world... like the ability to hack the FreeBSD network stack etc... > > The flip side is the more important question. Why should we ask > developers to support a version of the OS that doesn't have: > > From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html: > > * bhyve, drm2, rasbpi, nvme, several overhauled drivers and carp. ..and why can they not appear in 9.x...? > > From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/relnotes.html: > > * mpr, mrsas, pms, autofs, other overhauled drivers. ...or these...? ABI change? Or is it the same ABI with updated drivers? > > I recommend folks reading this thread should examine those links. > > As for things removed from base, my understanding is: > > * we have limited people to fix/regression test all the security problems > in base/ software. A few notorious candidates have been factored out > into ports. You have less people now I can guarantee you that. > > * there is an overall drive to move to an entirely GPL-free base system. > Perhaps this is not important to you but there are others to whome this > is important. > > I have some other thoughts on this but I am being called away to deal with > some other crisis ATM. The GPL-free base system drive is driving stuff and will change things that I can see an OS upgrade/version change is called for... but why not get all of it done and put into 10.0 instead of driving forward with getting to 12.0 as fast as possible? Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 11:48:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F17BCDC8CE for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from springbank.echomania.com (springbank.echomania.com [IPv6:2a01:7c8:aab2:81::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "springbank.echomania.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51EDA1585; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at springbank.echomania.com Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7::898a:d39e:756e:1d43] (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:898a:d39e:756e:1d43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by springbank.echomania.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6F08580108; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:48:45 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: <062264A1-08AF-46D9-965B-5288E06E05CB@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_87A1C9B4-6824-40DF-9767-BE1118815E35"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Firefox build fails Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:48:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD Ports Management Team To: AN References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:48:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_87A1C9B4-6824-40DF-9767-BE1118815E35 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 12 Feb 2017, at 02:33, AN wrote: > FreeBSD BSD_12 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #13 r313546: Fri Feb = 10 10:04:11 EST 2017 root@BSD_12:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL = amd64 >=20 >=20 > Trying to install Firefox fails with the following: >=20 > ../../js/src/jsarray.o: In function = `js::NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroup(JSContext*, JSObject*, unsigned = long, js::NewObjectKind, bool)': > = /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/js/src/jsarray.cpp:(.text._ZN2j= s35NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroupEP9JSContextP8JSObjectmNS_13NewObjec= tKindEb+0xb59): undefined reference to = `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' > /usr/bin/ld: ../../js/src/jsarray.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against = `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' can not be used when = making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC > /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value Disable the DTRACE option, and try again. See: = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/Week-of-Mon-201702= 06/408053.html = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107103.htm= l = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107138.htm= l and maybe even other threads. Let's poke portmgr@ to just disable this option by default, until the = port has been fixed. -Dimitry --Apple-Mail=_87A1C9B4-6824-40DF-9767-BE1118815E35 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAligS6AACgkQsF6jCi4glqPe0gCgm9nGmKM1R68avJnDKUb3TYnT EvMAoLpk03cLt0m1LY4KMoHYitjN/NNQ =5sTz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_87A1C9B4-6824-40DF-9767-BE1118815E35-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 13:12:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AD6CDB71C for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (prod2.absolight.net [79.143.243.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E1B71E2E for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B44BDC91; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:12:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from atuin.in.mat.cc (atuin.in.mat.cc [79.143.241.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CFE4BDC85; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:12:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: devel/check To: Andy Farkas , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: Absolight / The FreeBSD Foundation Message-ID: <7cca9725-d413-f42f-cba8-2b245116549e@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:12:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iKG4HpGaopfubeu9RjHFGppdU4LtUDuJ2" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:12:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --iKG4HpGaopfubeu9RjHFGppdU4LtUDuJ2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="AgOnT7sO4PCJeTP4FdOpIIXThKAFkThVF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mathieu Arnold To: Andy Farkas , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7cca9725-d413-f42f-cba8-2b245116549e@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> In-Reply-To: <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> --AgOnT7sO4PCJeTP4FdOpIIXThKAFkThVF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 11/02/2017 =C3=A0 23:57, Andy Farkas a =C3=A9crit : > On 12/02/2017 08:37, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >> Andy Farkas skrev: >>> I did a 'portmaster -a' and it seems devel/libcheck has changed to >>> devel/check. >>> (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this) >>> >>> But devel/check won't install because: >>> >>> pkg-static: check-0.11.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs fil= es >>> into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk >>> >>> I then tried 'pkg delete libcheck' but it wants to delete 48 packages= >>> including my mate-base (which I rely on!) and also lumina which would= >>> leave me without a window-manager! >> - pkg delete -f libcheck >> or >> - portmaster -o devel/check libcheck >> > > Thanks Herb! > > The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8). > > How did you know about it? $ pkg pkg: not enough arguments Usage: pkg [-v] [-d] [-l] [-N] [-j |-c |-r ] [-C ] [-R ] [-o var=3Dvalue] [-4|-6] [] For more information on available commands and options see 'pkg help'. $ pkg help Usage: pkg [-v] [-d] [-l] [-N] [-j |-c |-r ] [-C ] [-R ] [-o var=3Dvalue] [-4|-6] [] Global options supported: =2E.. Commands supported: =2E.. delete Deletes packages from the database and the system =2E.. For more information on the different commands see 'pkg help '. $ pkg help delete (man page follows) Or, you could just type: $ pkg delete Usage: pkg delete [-DfnqRy] [-Cgix] ... pkg delete [-Dnqy] -a For more information see 'pkg help delete'. $ pkg help delete (man page follows) --=20 Mathieu Arnold --AgOnT7sO4PCJeTP4FdOpIIXThKAFkThVF-- --iKG4HpGaopfubeu9RjHFGppdU4LtUDuJ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYoF8jXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzQUI2OTc4OUQyRUQxMjEwNjQ0MEJBNUIz QTQ1MTZGMzUxODNDRTQ4AAoJEDpFFvNRg85INzkP/RmZ7wm/Ed2yMCStCq2E3NWT +Wg/uJnmuxvUznyXBXPCIdJzBgaDYw3cnlq5KQZUgkP3Oi2vO3Sbtowa8egzcZJP D7xhVZq1p212d1pnyiBgy5NmMMXIwPm1K7YXKg4DsZCzkIFI7D86xJSE2Om24o7R v6Wks2O5eTj6qyS3yzJtI8j8z7JmXIpHrbCZV9tfp8V10+z9UG8l6EqVwD9KYmMC 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:54:48 -0000 root@lilith:/usr/ports/editors/vim # freebsd-version && uname -a 11.0-STABLE FreeBSD lilith 11.0-STABLE FreeBSD 11.0-STABLE #43 r313632: Sat Feb 11 03:42:05 EST 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@lilith:/usr/ports/editors/vim # make distclean clean deinstall root@lilith:/usr/ports/editors/vim # make install .... ===> Installing for vim-8.0.0325 ===> Checking if vim already installed ===> Registering installation for vim-8.0.0325 pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/bin/gvimtutor: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or 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/usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/eview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/gview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such file or directory *** Error code 74 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/editors/vim *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/editors/vim -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 13:55:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44229CDB38D for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B241197 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 201CBCDB38B; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC9CCDB38A for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE1B1195 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486907498; bh=/lnI2i+CVgjXhN45zoCWenxpZMttimEEzrHM/c9SDc0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=uIAiYNLWBdwfJVvmhzUbrCnDY6Ew8b/01NvMmq/NjyZ6/8cQKtc7UCtASrZOM2r8xUyfInBB9Ual4krEHypsIOF5RpdB5Tlf429h2vXAn4Ak8L071yIwnNH31QsT+hz1q/2k49sflEnh3TYw3ibNstBEwdb3FEgbv7g5Ai5sbO4= Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2017 13:51:38 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.118] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2017 13:51:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2017 13:51:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 918889.1866.bm@smtp113.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6Z3V.gMVM1mOLetNq875_fv9gin6hotnmqPQva.g6VWbFoE 45zWH0.ogeGMLoPGg.dW3BfYimnJhgz8Uh94li2x1q7CuciVwko5xDIYr4cS W2RQJwr_.5zvAyOkDjMY5B6FsHkwfQ2pohMDsZeNpAY3PdpJf5u.LkNpjyff OB35ennt5ZjWHvRGBDuFUIzYo_i_WPOUeAJJZkMZ0JrKg4sdmOkRQVR.8zm1 8jFtjX6IRSkUISEbOopE9oa8ofxCZ8yzEIM3s0EQUUOf9Q94f4zj0nQJVSwd bXon38moFLzyw.1seTWzagjyeNE5bRf0JBahmRn6Y6TXhsFzHrZXaRK6wYUv f_J7KPQTClPKhJTqZC_ksxZnV.7w61cXCqCk7KqWv.uusi8haPXwKD4Y_Csm apWn5VcxEkLgtdbZU_39KIualzyHQEJNcuZ3eHHZZbaSRhKdZo2vgGv4NzYr ReaA5yR.c4u1nlS.KtQE_tldJmj9d_yVXRUKlLQ1bnxfUKFKr9m6VjK.QgBM v71MxLl8QGfomw2sdKTRpsKaATwbijQCOsFHimWmlwHGR9BqWiFJuMY0- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Cc: Kurt Jaeger Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170211141106.GS13006@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <20170211141106.GS13006@home.opsec.eu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:55:02 -0000 [Default] On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:11:06 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >Hi! Moin! > >> >> But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. > >> >While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, >> >I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do >> >not have alternatives. >> >> Why not? What would happen to fBSD that's not already happening? > >Maybe if other folks do not share your analysis that the fbsd world >is loosing market/mindshare etc, they come to different conclusions >on what they want from the system. I'm sure you're right. But I'd like to see the basis for their different analysis. As I said in response to your other post, I look at most of the same things I looked at back in the day: market penetration, applications, favorable press. The one thing I don't look at now are the professional analyses for which companies must splash out hundreds or thousands of dollars. So I wonder what they're looking at that would lead them to such a different conclusion. > >> Why aren't people asking what's going on and how to turn it >> around? Could it be because they're too busy being busy? > >My impression is they are busy innovating, and that is good >and I thank them for it But by all the usual metrics (penetration, apps, press) it's not working. If we're doing the wrong thing, even doing it Really Well won't save us. > >> >Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) >> >shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to >> >add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? >> >> It seems more like an excuse than a defence, to me. Is it >> pushing Linux back? If not, what *would* push Linux back? > >As I asked on the other mail: How do you measure this ? Penetration, applications, press. The links that Grzegorz posted are extremely on-point. We are in trouble! > >[Pathologising others] is not very friendly. I'm not pathologising anyone. Fear of change is an ordinary human response --it's mentioned in scripture, in Shakespeare, and even in the US Declaration of Independence! "[A]ll experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed". Shakespeare: "[D]read ... puzzles the will / And makes us rather bear those ills we have / Than fly to others that we know not of." But that it's ordinary doesn't mean it's adaptive! > >> But change is possible, even for adults. > >So, we're changing a lot and now we hear you complain about those >changes. For some reason, I'm not seeing the "changing a lot". To me it looks like the same old Same Old, just madly faster. >Can you try to describe some changes that would help >both groups (those that need innovation and those that need >stability) ? If I were playing program manager, I'd first map releases to hardware lifespan: a major release every five years, and patches for class A and B bugs or sudden new hardware or package components (e.g. php 7, mariadb 10) issued ab-necessario. As Michelle notes, server hardware can be presumed to be exhausted after 5 years, so if you've to bring up new boxes anyway, you might as well upgrade to new bits, too. But you should not have to replace your software more often than you replace your hardware. If there were enough resources, do a minor release every year. My second emphasis would be on *predictable* quality, to lure back businesses (they provided most of our funding and support back in the day as you know). Public deliverables would be 3 fully-packaged and switch-configurable products, 2 of them plug-and-play for people who just want a reliable tool to use for doing other work, and the third a high-class kit for people who *don't* just want a tool to use. The tools would be - a desktop (as Grzegorz points out, people go with what they know, and what they know is their desktop. And right now that desktop runs Linux), and - a server. If we couldn't at first manage to package all three, then priority should be desktop and server before kit. Cutting back the release frequency and focusing on 3 high-quality turnkey products should take at least some of the load off the developers, allowing them to avoid firefighting mode and increase their free-brain time. To support quality, I'd mandate, if I were program manager, that the bits be pulled from their far-flung sources once per cycle and stored centrally, such that version skew, fnf, and other errors would be automatically avoided. I'd also mandate that ports be divided into production-quality bits for the server and desktop packages, and hobby-quality bits. Between fetching and storing the bits for the build, and focusing on making sure the bits are indeed production quality for the packages, there should be many fewer cases of complaints from or about the software. (My install of X complains constantly, even though it appears to work well enough. But the complaints are slightly worrying anyway, and I have to hope that they're not breaking anything such as my install of MariaDB 10, which stopped working after I merely moved the discs and motherboard to a new physical box, and added an LSI 9211. Not the level of quality we should be shipping. I would download and install another MariaDB package on the presumption that if it quit working because it dislikes the 9211 a fresh install will make them friends again, but, oops, I can't do that because the pkgs were purged. So I have to decide whether to try building the port, which often doesn't work because of having to fetch bits that may have been changed, lost, or moved meanwhile, or just mutter t'hellwithit and upgrade to 10.3 which in the past has meant scraping everything down to the metal and reinstalling from scratch. And I'd mandate that, at a minimum, all package bits be kept available for the life of the major release. Just like commercial software --- if you buy a copy of v2.0, you have a copy of v2.0 and it never changes out from under you. If the vendor has a good media-replacement policy you can download another copy of v2.0 and it will be identical to the first copy. No ad-hoc changes, just stable predictability. Of course, it would be nice if we had the resources to actually fix major bugs in older minor releases, but until we get competitive with Linux again, I wouldn't be worried about that: if the bits were good enough to ship, they're at least arguably good enough still even if bugs later revealed themselves. Developing the original packaging scheme would take some top-notch engineering. I'd want to put people on it who not only have that level of skill, but who *also* can put themselves in the place of those who will use the products. Not every engineer can do that, which is why Bricklin and Frankston lost ownership of the spreadsheet space to Kapor. Kapor could do it, but B&F couldn't even see the difference between what they were doing and what Kapor did. But their customer base could see the difference! Sic transit Visicalc. > >> But that doesn't mean we're currently doing the right things to >> regain share from Linux and save FreeBSD. > >Is this really a us-vrs-them thing ? I don't see it that way. Okay. But it really is that way, unless it's okay for linux to survive while fbsd goes under, which is what's happening right now. If you don't believe me, check the links Grzegorz provided. >There is innovation all across the board and to be able to co-innovation, >certain things need to be done. In the base system and in the >ports tree. But what's being done is not noticeably helping. I worked for a major computer hardware company that innovated constantly. Multi-million-dollar annual R&D budget. There were many groups of engineers doing excellent, cutting-edge work, but it was the wrong work because it had no connection to human needs or what was going on elsewhere. That company had reigned supreme in their space for so many years that corporate management thought they could still enforce brand loyalty and set world standards. So they went under because corporate management were wrong. But nobody could convince them of that because they had big offices and were paid lots of money to run whole divisions with thousands of people and multi-million-dollar budgets, which obviously made them smarter than those of us who had small offices and ran little departments with a few dozen people and small budgets. But they weren't smarter, they were deluded. And it cost everyone dearly. Except them, because they had golden parachutes. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 14:04:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E712CDB6A2 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from dd36626.kasserver.com (dd36626.kasserver.com [85.13.153.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B352816E7 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from phantomias.home.jochen-neumeister.de (p54894E8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.137.78.140]) by dd36626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 742502E050CB; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:04:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: problems building vim: To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Ports ML References: From: Jochen Neumeister Message-ID: <97dab274-d601-8ba7-2a7c-a7cde77eca0a@bsdproject.de> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:04:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:04:56 -0000 There is an open PR for this Problem: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=217024 Am 12.02.2017 um 14:54 schrieb Aryeh Friedman: > root@lilith:/usr/ports/editors/vim # freebsd-version && uname -a > 11.0-STABLE > FreeBSD lilith 11.0-STABLE FreeBSD 11.0-STABLE #43 r313632: Sat Feb 11 > 03:42:05 EST 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > root@lilith:/usr/ports/editors/vim # make distclean clean deinstall > root@lilith:/usr/ports/editors/vim # make install > .... > ===> Installing for vim-8.0.0325 > ===> Checking if vim already installed > ===> Registering installation for vim-8.0.0325 > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/bin/gvimtutor: No such file or > directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/eview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/gview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/rgview.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.ISO8859-1/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.ISO8859-1/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.ISO8859-1/man1/gvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.ISO8859-1/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.ISO8859-1/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.ISO8859-1/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/gvim.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it/man1/eview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it/man1/gview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it/man1/rgview.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.ISO8859-1/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.ISO8859-1/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.ISO8859-1/man1/gvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.ISO8859-1/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.ISO8859-1/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.ISO8859-1/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.UTF-8/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.UTF-8/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.UTF-8/man1/gvim.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.UTF-8/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.UTF-8/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/it.UTF-8/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/eview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/gview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/rgview.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ja/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/eview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/gview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/rgview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/eview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/gview.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/gvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/rgview.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl/man1/rgvim.1.gz: No such > file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/gvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.ISO8859-2/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/gvim.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/gvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/eview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/gview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/gvim.1.gz: No > such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/gvimdiff.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/rgview.1.gz: > No such file or directory > pkg-static: Unable to access file > /usr/ports/editors/vim/work/stage/usr/local/man/ru.UTF-8/man1/rgvim.1.gz: > No such file or directory > *** Error code 74 > > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/editors/vim > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/editors/vim > > From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 14:08:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AABBCDB766 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03B1A18AE for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) 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freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:08:13 -0000 On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Jochen Neumeister wrote: > There is an open PR for this Problem: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzi > lla/show_bug.cgi?id=217024 > > An interesting hint is it built and installed correctly on a an other machine with the same updates but does not have xorg installed. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 14:30:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0ABCDBDCF for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F3E1418 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 500ACCDBDCE; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB39CDBDCC for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1FD1410 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OL900LOCNBYGF00@hades.sorbs.net> for ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 06:38:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Cc: Kurt Jaeger References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170211141106.GS13006@home.opsec.eu> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: <5ae5441b-b48c-cf2b-e8fd-14459e08d4f1@sorbs.net> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:30:11 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:30:15 -0000 scratch65535@att.net wrote: > > Developing the original packaging scheme would take some > top-notch engineering. > If you're talking the pkg_* tools - already have them working with later/patched software here... (In fact my ports tree now has some packages more up to date than the FreeBSD one... and with stuff fixed that was just marked BROKEN on FreeBSD 9.x... Of course thats for my package/patch set so YMMV and there are a lot that are not upgraded to the current FreeBSD set - but then it's only me on it. Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 14:47:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B998CCDC504 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F781DB2 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OL900LORO4JGF00@hades.sorbs.net> for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 06:55:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> <44504f75-befb-5c4d-c4f9-273fcff969a2@gjunka.com> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: <8edde094-1fd1-7281-cb1f-18f74765bcc1@sorbs.net> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:47:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 In-reply-to: <44504f75-befb-5c4d-c4f9-273fcff969a2@gjunka.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:47:24 -0000 Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > > On Linux companies contribute drivers and dedicated applications and > it's a win-win situation. More drivers mean people can more easily > re-use their hardware that they bought for Windows, and more happy > users means companies are contributing more drivers. > > Maybe the fate was set on Linux because FreeBSD was considered as a > server operating system rather than a Windows replacement, which Linux > was always trying to be? And good UI/desktop always provides a better > user experience than a command line and terminal. > > And why would people want to switch between FreeBSD on the server and > Linux/Windows on their desktop if they can just go Linux/Windows all > the way through? I believe it's only by providing a good desktop > experience that FreeBSD can survive. On that we will always be completely opposed in rational... However, I knwo where you're coming from but consider this: Linux has a core team that pretty much work on the kernel and modules and have sweet FA to do with the OS/distro. This is why kernels move separately from the distros, unlike FreeBSD. FreeBSD is a distro so is there any wonder why stuff doesn't get fixed and other stuff does but only on new versions, and why changing anything in the distro results in new versions of everything... There are cases where this was pretty much a requirement, but only for the technical to really know... Eg when threading support started.. when symbol versioning started, in both cases the whole OS had to move along with the Kernel... I get that... but what about 7, to 8, to 9, to 10, to 11, to 12? pkgng being forced on everyone at 9 to 10 ? pkgng attempting to replace freebsd-update between 10 and 11? That'd be pretty much like RedHat going from 5, to 6, to 7 by going from rpm, to rpm+yum, to apt-get+deb... as if that would work! Perhaps the answer is to separate (as much as possible) the kernel and base OS libraries from everything else... Do we really need gcc/clang built into the base OS? Do we need some of the obvious...? (openssl, ntp, ssh, inetd, telnet, ftp etc etc etc? - sure some tools need to be on the installation media, but really are they needed in the base OS?) FreeBSD doesn't install a desktop by default, why not separate a Desktop team out as Grzegorz seems to think it's of vital importance and would come back to competitivness with linux et al... make it kernel/distro independent ... oh wait it already is! ... ok stopping here, because its turning more into a rant, but I know others have seen this point/thought in the same thread... personally I'm only interested in the server side of things as I use OSX as my desktop which funnily enough is using guess what... a BSD Kernel!.,, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 17:24:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D049BCDC47A for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A83621D15 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEDE2075E for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:24:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=c5KifjMW7BYoEOqu4zL2QcLgV0g=; b=EMZAy9 rwaeYhWi5qmI/2Ax5XymiuFdbs3wDDSZFXkNUcL9S7DQdogZ9l/JSmEikUcQklQp XoSfA+pOw1mprwvT2i4ZgF5vQdo1q3ju3qesHbmNmQAfRhQC2nlwkupHDjhkqtXy IljgiLu0rd7N7WrQbMmt/i26JNtwqr4+F2IMA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=c5KifjMW7BYoEO qu4zL2QcLgV0g=; b=rrtx3Q0SmP1a6uCJ9aPUQNR7l+Mvy8uZSTGmVmPsdRcNsP e/I7CFGkpf6ieMey+rjdRUWGR92aXb9NOzUjbTPyfi91ytA3kjUkRfyP2IOpz6Qy eq+R2lhF4tmkfcxcJ7jK3/1PXcrm11B8y8MMH1e9lyUUfZ/CMdzekVaWJwwgE= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: IpSB8OJ6fyHBeHW0cJ/xZvpviCmwDSc5F5dTjuAoaTBN 1486920243 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (pumpkin.growveg.org [82.70.91.101]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3AD077E06B for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:24:03 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: tech-lists Subject: quazip install failure Message-ID: <68c3b5af-e79c-e525-dc9a-3a0e3f9d801d@zyxst.net> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:24:00 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:24:10 -0000 Hello ports@, ports is r433953 on 11-stable. quazip builds ok but fails to install with the following error: # make reinstall ===> Installing for quazip-0.7.3 ===> quazip-0.7.3 depends on shared library: libQtCore.so - found (/usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so) ===> Registering installation for quazip-0.7.3 pkg-static: Unable to access file /storage/usr/ports/archivers/quazip/work/stage/usr/local/share/cmake/Modules/FindQuaZip.cmake: No such file or directory *** Error code 74 The work/stage/usr/local/share/cmake dir isn't made. thanks, -- J. 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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:10:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170211141106.GS13006@home.opsec.eu> <5ae5441b-b48c-cf2b-e8fd-14459e08d4f1@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <5ae5441b-b48c-cf2b-e8fd-14459e08d4f1@sorbs.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:12:21 -0000 [Default] On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:30:11 +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >scratch65535@att.net wrote: >> >> Developing the original packaging scheme would take some >> top-notch engineering. >> > >If you're talking the pkg_* tools - already have them working with >later/patched software here... (In fact my ports tree now has some >packages more up to date than the FreeBSD one... and with stuff fixed >that was just marked BROKEN on FreeBSD 9.x... Of course thats for my >package/patch set so YMMV and there are a lot that are not upgraded to >the current FreeBSD set - but then it's only me on it. ah, sorry Michelle, I didn't quite mean "packaging" as in "pkg packaging", but more "packaging" as in "integration and polish": load & go. Stick the disc in the drive, boot, and a menu appears from which you pick the functions and flavors you want. And when it finishes, you have a running system specialised to the role(s) you chose. Better than Microsoft, better than Linux. No fears, no tears. Load and go. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 20:02:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1BFCDC367 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from mail.neu.net (neu.net [162.217.113.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gaq5.x.rootbsd.net", Issuer "gaq5.x.rootbsd.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C65E1E76; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [162.217.113.162]) by mail.neu.net (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1CK2QuU041317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:02:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:02:26 -0500 (EST) From: AN To: Dimitry Andric cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD Ports Management Team Subject: Re: Firefox build fails In-Reply-To: <062264A1-08AF-46D9-965B-5288E06E05CB@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <062264A1-08AF-46D9-965B-5288E06E05CB@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:02:30 -0000 Hi Dimitry: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 12 Feb 2017, at 02:33, AN wrote: >> FreeBSD BSD_12 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #13 r313546: Fri Feb 10 10:04:11 EST 2017 root@BSD_12:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 >> >> >> Trying to install Firefox fails with the following: >> >> ../../js/src/jsarray.o: In function `js::NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroup(JSContext*, JSObject*, unsigned long, js::NewObjectKind, bool)': >> /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/js/src/jsarray.cpp:(.text._ZN2js35NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroupEP9JSContextP8JSObjectmNS_13NewObjectKindEb+0xb59): undefined reference to `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' >> /usr/bin/ld: ../../js/src/jsarray.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC >> /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value > > Disable the DTRACE option, and try again. See: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/Week-of-Mon-20170206/408053.html > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107103.html > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107138.html > > and maybe even other threads. > > Let's poke portmgr@ to just disable this option by default, until the port has been fixed. > > -Dimitry > > I can confirm that Firefox builds and installs successfully with DTRACE diabled. Thank you for the help, all the best. Regards From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 12 21:56:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F2FCDCCFA for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6837B10E4 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v1CLi4Kp027264 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu>, From: "C Hutchinson" Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:44:10 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: <5be4963b058a6200d3d817cbe7142540@ultimatedns.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:56:38 -0000 On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 07:31:10 -0500 wrote > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:46:15 +0100, Kurt Jaeger > wrote: > > >Hi! > > Moin! > > > > >> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote > >> >Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary > >> >to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break > >> >and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... > >> > >> But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. > > > >While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, > >I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do > >not have alternatives. > > Why not? What would happen to fBSD that's not already happening? > Why aren't people asking what's going on and how to turn it > around? Could it be because they're too busy being busy? > > There's a well-known problem that kills ground-attack pilots all > the time (or it used to; maybe they have safety features built > into the aircraft now). They become fixated on their target, and > they bring the nose of their aircraft further and further down to > keep the target in their sights. Which causes them to fly right > into the ground! > > Fixation is a problem in other fields, too. > > > > >> Do you know of anyone who has successfully defended, or even > >> tried to defend, the current manic pace of revision and > >> obsoleting? > > > >Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) > >shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to > >add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? > > It seems more like an excuse than a defence, to me. Is it > pushing Linux back? If not, what *would* push Linux back? Why > is Linux so successful even though fBSD is older and better, and > was once completely dominant in the space? What are the Linux > projects doing that we're not? > > > > >And if we try to keep up and for this, if we add features to the > >ports framework ? I'm doing this (application mgmt on unix systems) > >for a long time now, a quarter of a century, and I see no viable > >alternative in the problem space we work in. > > I trained as a clinical psychologist, not in computer science or > ee. We learned that adults are notoriously resistant to change This is a very astute observation. One I recognized as an absolute; some two and a half decades ago, myself. Well done! > (not that we hadn't noticed that ourselves, most of us, but it > was nice to have it confirmed "officially"). > > But change is possible, even for adults. The key to change is to > realise, at the gut level, that change *is* possible, that things > need *not* always be as they are now. That life really truly > can be better. > > That's really hard for most adults to believe. The prospect of > change is terrifying because it threatens us with loss of > control. The largest fail in recent history, in this regard was pkg(8). Not that pkg itself is bad, per se; but in the way it was "presented". Or rather "dropped" like a bomb. Without having been "vetted" prior, by those that would now be /required/ to use it -- not an option. The "magic bullet" is when the "change" is perceived as being a change they "wanted", or "asked for". FreeBSD has seen *many* requests for change(s) over the years. Most of which are dismissed, ignored, or outright rejected. Even tho many were variations of the same. Solution? /Listen/ to those requests. Perform a pattern match to discover similarities in requests, and propose what could be perceived "feasible" implementations of those requests. Then implement them, and you'll gain a enthusiastic following. Period. > > But we don't have to lose control. We can change a bit at a > time, staying in control all the while. All we need is the will > to do it. (The world is in the mess it's in because, it seems, > most of those who have the will to change use it for malignant > purposes --the last several US presidents being cases in point) > > > > >I also see that this very fast speed uses up huge amounts of > >person power and compute resources (all those folks rebuilding > >many ports in their build hosts). But it's not easy to stop off > >this planet 8-} > > I would never urge that we jump off the planet. It'd be too hard > to breathe outside the atmospheric envelope. :-) > > But that doesn't mean we're currently doing the right things to > regain share from Linux and save FreeBSD. This is NOT, nor has never has been a "Linux vs BSD" thing. Linux is not UNIX. Ahem... Let me rephrase that; This is NOT a Linux vs BSD thing, anymore than a Windows vs BSD thing. This is an "Operating System of choice" thing. If your OS provides what a majority of what people need, and want; you're successful, and popular. It's as simple as that. That's all I have to say in this matter. I generally shy away from such discussions. As history proves that they devolve into a "bikeshed(tm)" -- PHK. Over, and out. --Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 07:50:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ABECDDA2C for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732C0837 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7282DCDDA2A; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7086FCDDA29 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63CB1836 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1D7oOof001941 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1D7oO5L001937; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702130750.v1D7oO5L001937@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:50:24 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/ports@freebsd.org.html Port | Current version | New version ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ biology/tinker | 7.1.3 | 8.1.1 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 08:01:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EE7CDC051 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0645FE2C for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntcmgw08p ([61.9.169.168]) by nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20170213080107.NIOY2121.nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p> for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:01:07 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([110.141.193.233]) by nskntcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id k8171u00952cND201817tV; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:01:07 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=DL5ymH5b c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=wJHce1SACoiJ_LpicXQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1D817Uu045692 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:01:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1D817Ws045689 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:01:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:01:07 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Problem with building libgcrypt In-Reply-To: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Message-ID: References: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:01:19 -0000 On Sun, 12 Feb 2017, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > *** [libgcrypt.la] Error code 1 > > See the 20140909 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about missing .la files. Thanks - that did the trick. Next problem: when building misc/freebsd-doc-en, it fails with: libtool: link: cc -shared -fPIC -DPIC .libs/attrvt.o .libs/xslt.o .libs/xsltlocale.o .libs/xsltutils.o .libs/pattern.o .libs/templates.o .libs/variables.o .libs/keys.o .libs/numbers.o .libs/extensions.o .libs/extra.o .libs/functions.o .libs/namespaces.o .libs/imports.o .libs/attributes.o .libs/documents.o .libs/preproc.o .libs/transform.o .libs/security.o -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -lz -llzma -L/usr/lib -lm -O2 -fstack-protector -Wl,--version-script=./libxslt.syms -fstack-protector -Wl,-soname -Wl,libxslt.so.1 -o .libs/libxslt.so.1.1.29 cc: error: no such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.so' gmake[4]: *** [Makefile:534: libxslt.la] Error 1 I take it that this is a manifestation of 20130904: AFFECTS: 10-CURRENT users with any port depending on converters/libiconv AUTHOR: madpilot@FreeBSD.org 10-CURRENT after r254273 (committed on August 13, 2013) has an implementation of iconv enabled by default in libc. ? -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 09:19:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5BACDD695 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50A75131F; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id 97CE62A27; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:19:07 +0000 (UTC) To: andy@neu.net, dim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Firefox build fails Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <062264A1-08AF-46D9-965B-5288E06E05CB@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <20170213091907.97CE62A27@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:19:07 +0000 (UTC) From: jbeich@freebsd.org (Jan Beich) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:19:08 -0000 Dimitry Andric writes: >> Trying to install Firefox fails with the following: > On 12 Feb 2017, at 02:33, AN wrote: > >> FreeBSD BSD_12 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #13 r313546: Fri >> Feb 10 10:04:11 EST 2017 root@BSD_12:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL >> amd64 Does your userland (or "world") contain the following change? https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/313504 >> >> ../../js/src/jsarray.o: In function >> `js::NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroup(JSContext*, JSObject*, >> unsigned long, js::NewObjectKind, bool)': >> /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-51.0.1/js/src/jsarray.cpp:(.text._ZN2js35NewFullyAllocatedArrayTryReuseGroupEP9JSContextP8JSObjectmNS_13NewObjectKindEb+0xb59): >> undefined reference to `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' >> /usr/bin/ld: ../../js/src/jsarray.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 >> against `__dtraceenabled_javascript___object__create' can not be >> used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC >> /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value Restarting interrupted build doesn't always work. Try doing "make clean". > Disable the DTRACE option, and try again. See: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/Week-of-Mon-20170206/408053.html > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107103.html > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107138.html > > and maybe even other threads. > > Let's poke portmgr@ to just disable this option by default, until the port has been fixed. -CURRENT packages are built every few days, so only 2 sets had firefox masked due to the DTrace issue. The next build failed due to devel/llvm* which delayed firefox package a bit more. So, expect it "soon". # green logs (IPv6-only) http://beefy11.nyi.freebsd.org/data/head-i386-default/p433920_s313674/logs/firefox-51.0.1_1,1.log http://beefy12.nyi.freebsd.org/data/head-amd64-default/p433920_s313674/logs/firefox-51.0.1_1,1.log The larger issue is we don't provide a cushion for -CURRENT hiccups or EOL'd releases unlike /head (ports) + quarterlies. Old packages are pruned as soon as the next set is ready. And as individual packages are unsigned (unlike repo) one can't share their backup copy with others. 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The following example is from dns/samba-nsupdate: # Try to find appropriate GSSAPI libs .if defined(KRB5_HOME) && exists(${KRB5_HOME}/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so) CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-gssapi="${KRB5_HOME}" .elif defined(HEIMDAL_HOME) && exists(${HEIMDAL_HOME}/lib/libgssapi.so) CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-gssapi="${HEIMDAL_HOME}" .elif exists(/usr/lib/libkrb5.so) && exists(/usr/bin/krb5-config) CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-gssapi="/usr" .else LIB_DEPENDS+= libkrb5.so:security/heimdal CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-gssapi="${LOCALBASE}" .endif I want to build with MIT Kerberos from ports, which is what the first .if block is looking for. Since poudriere always presents a pristine file system to ports, this check does not find the library, and eventually the port falls back to depending on Heimdal instead. There are quite a few ports that contain logic like this, enabling a dependency based on whether it is installed already. They should probably be changed to use OPTIONS instead to declare the dependency rather than passively guess at it, but for right now, they don't. Does poudriere not support this at all? Thanks! -- Christian From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 10:37:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FE9CDC9A5 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay116.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay116.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5C491AE9 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BsBgCpi6FY/1fag21eGwEBAQMBAQEJA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBg1JREIEJjlORFykBlQyCDCKGAAKCYEIWAQIBAQEBAQEBYiiEagEFOhwjEAs?= =?us-ascii?q?YCSUPKh4GE4lusEqLQAEBAQEBAQQBAQEBJIs7ijkFm3KGb4sYdoFljjeTFSYEL?= =?us-ascii?q?VUrNCoIhQIdgWI/NYotAQEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BsBgCpi6FY/1fag21eGwEBAQMBAQEJAQEBg1JREIEJjlO?= =?us-ascii?q?RFykBlQyCDCKGAAKCYEIWAQIBAQEBAQEBYiiEagEFOhwjEAsYCSUPKh4GE4lus?= =?us-ascii?q?EqLQAEBAQEBAQQBAQEBJIs7ijkFm3KGb4sYdoFljjeTFSYELVUrNCoIhQIdgWI?= =?us-ascii?q?/NYotAQEB?= Received: from 87.218-131-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([109.131.218.87]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 13 Feb 2017 11:35:57 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1DAZu1Z044896; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:35:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:35:56 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Dave Horsfall Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Problem with building libgcrypt Message-ID: <20170213113556.1913eea4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:37:11 -0000 On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:01:07 +1100 (EST) Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sun, 12 Feb 2017, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >>> *** [libgcrypt.la] Error code 1 >> >> See the 20140909 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about missing .la files. > > Thanks - that did the trick. > > Next problem: when building misc/freebsd-doc-en, it fails with: > > libtool: link: cc -shared -fPIC -DPIC .libs/attrvt.o .libs/xslt.o .libs/xsltlocale.o .libs/xsltutils.o .libs/pattern.o .libs/templates.o .libs/variables.o .libs/keys.o .libs/numbers.o .libs/extensions.o .libs/extra.o .libs/functions.o .libs/namespaces.o .libs/imports.o .libs/attributes.o .libs/documents.o .libs/preproc.o .libs/transform.o .libs/security.o -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -lz -llzma -L/usr/lib -lm -O2 -fstack-protector -Wl,--version-script=./libxslt.syms -fstack-protector -Wl,-soname -Wl,libxslt.so.1 -o .libs/libxslt.so.1.1.29 > cc: error: no such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.so' > gmake[4]: *** [Makefile:534: libxslt.la] Error 1 That's probably still because of some .la file. Does /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la still exist? What is the output of "pkg which /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la"? If it says "not found in database" remove it. If it says "installed by package X" rebuild X. Same for /usr/local/lib/libxml2.la. 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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:38:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:41:32 -0000 Does anyone have a clue as to why sqlite3 is now being installed with MariaDB 10.1? The mariadb site doesn't mention it, as far as I can tell, and if anything qualifies as coals-to-Newcastle, this combination does. 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The mariadb site doesn't mention it, as far Because you have set your ports options in such a way that the MariaDB port depends on something (that depends on something)* that in turn depends on SQLite. databases/mariadb101-server itself does not have, nor can it be configured to have, a dependency on databases/sqlite3. Installing this one port brings in 41 more as dependencies (on my system as of right now), so there are plenty of chances for something to use SQLite. Also, since your question is not clear on whether you mean SQLite is installed as part of the port or separately, the port does not install any files that might indicate the presence of an internal copy of SQLite. -- Christian From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 15:27:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC975CDDDF3 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00877DB for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AC83CCDDDF2; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC23ECDDDF1 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm23-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84CD67DA for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486999412; bh=8w7WqJWp5GhcddbJRrA3bJWmJLApwzI9r8qURSn3yW8=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=qJ4qVR0lokffBBIWWYp4TpBhg5bLrxRP/ZTFxa9LOll5WlsI3sTQ1cnH9bl8aD/cO9YcN6AGpU4TRv7V+z2I244FySra0O+5f2wmZ2Hc1/iEYPKSL5p+wwq82kIN27ffRHB7Jxw/ZyeyJQbB9ve6lAPUZAiPjJIHa2fleNkUErc= Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2017 15:23:32 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.147] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2017 15:23:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2017 15:23:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 857285.21275.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ib.lpqMVM1kXoaJPVNwjdNlzcPOPl9GQyZOgcQuSfmn7R21 EshH6DR9m8SiPSXjzMcp1gSSj_luM7RqQ.FcMS3nXeLipXa2tVy6sLMM8M9S aIkV7CRaIsR7hkZ.YdyCOUPpcujyS2svCnYlUr5N_TmJWyEeYl9afXeuXRY1 5tyZromWxwpK29fWT5wgqKgbww8CH_VO14uWmwoQCc4sFHeKR.Za0Yk1Zt1o eCd0mrnU_nfrYgiFxPbXmZXx.syBZcj6DvoZbi2A28UyabSxgKhPhFmHjWdz GMxJXv4ina3iVM.E1X8APRTEsvk5P11EQLvnLx2YVpRoHQSBoqtRG6fG1EnA RCfgLxzdzuN2Vl7Gnl8OgBMYOoopYrmWSVP0E0vth4TMs.LErdPK2Oxd0lVL eamkbelnbsx6OkA_JcKQxadIpNYD22EZpWvpHAQQ9_FaIAhvBicKQjCssokm 4mMUof4HhrHmSYS4VThSm7mQI4B8ovQ0XGr4j75IwbP8Q7BHgcFppYoYN5U1 eQRkyJqhBR8cgA8f6zUQ.kDVwJuq5t5dDn6sDRK199XWc2NpDiVxp6T0HC9A fNNnmc5BOyWiZk9POUh5Y1w-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: MariaDB 10.1 includes sqlite3?? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:23:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <75d3f822-0e54-f0a6-5883-359bed9b20be@chrullrich.net> In-Reply-To: <75d3f822-0e54-f0a6-5883-359bed9b20be@chrullrich.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:27:01 -0000 [Default] On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:02:13 +0100, Christian Ullrich wrote: >* scratch65535@att.net wrote: > >> Does anyone have a clue as to why sqlite3 is now being installed >> with MariaDB 10.1? The mariadb site doesn't mention it, as far > >Because you have set your ports options in such a way that the MariaDB >port depends on something (that depends on something)* that in turn >depends on SQLite. databases/mariadb101-server itself does not have, nor >can it be configured to have, a dependency on databases/sqlite3. > >Installing this one port brings in 41 more as dependencies (on my system >as of right now), so there are plenty of chances for something to use >SQLite. > >Also, since your question is not clear on whether you mean SQLite is >installed as part of the port or separately, the port does not install >any files that might indicate the presence of an internal copy of SQLite. I've never set ports options at all. I just do generic installs, whenever I'm forced to use ports rather than packages. MariaDB 10.1 was and should still be a standalone installand with no dependencies at all. So to see config-recursive pop up config screens for sqlite, tcl, and other stuff that has no logical connection to MariaDB at all is disconcerting to say the least. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 16:06:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009F9CDDF04 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8A5AA1 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DE961CDDF03; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE47ECDDF02 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward16h.cmail.yandex.net (forward16h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::a1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EC3DA9E for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (smtp1m.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.132]) by forward16h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A3C5A214B8 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:06:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D802863C0CBA for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:06:53 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 9u2ivurqtT-6rJmRk9c; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:06:53 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 To: FreeBSD Ports From: Boris Samorodov Subject: libreoffice calc + click on hyperlink = error 35 Message-ID: <9e01567c-c035-6326-b039-4991d9c30216@passap.ru> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:03:47 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:06:59 -0000 Hi All, T get "error 35" while click on a hyperlink at LibreOffice Calc. At the same time console outputs: --- /usr/bin/xdg-open: not found --- Seems that libreoffice uses the wrong path for xdg-open. I didn't manage to find the fix. Please, help. Thank you. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 13 16:25:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E90CDD4E6 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A363515DB for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9FD44CDD4E5; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F785CDD4E4 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4988115DA for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id eeab938d TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:25:48 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: MariaDB 10.1 includes sqlite3?? From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:25:47 -0700 Cc: freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <106DAC97-DF35-42B7-A3E0-67D3659216B5@adamw.org> References: <75d3f822-0e54-f0a6-5883-359bed9b20be@chrullrich.net> To: scratch65535@att.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:51 -0000 > On 13 Feb, 2017, at 8:23, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >=20 > [Default] On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:02:13 +0100, Christian Ullrich > wrote: >=20 >> * scratch65535@att.net wrote: >>=20 >>> Does anyone have a clue as to why sqlite3 is now being installed >>> with MariaDB 10.1? The mariadb site doesn't mention it, as far >>=20 >> Because you have set your ports options in such a way that the = MariaDB=20 >> port depends on something (that depends on something)* that in turn=20= >> depends on SQLite. databases/mariadb101-server itself does not have, = nor=20 >> can it be configured to have, a dependency on databases/sqlite3. >>=20 >> Installing this one port brings in 41 more as dependencies (on my = system=20 >> as of right now), so there are plenty of chances for something to use=20= >> SQLite. >>=20 >> Also, since your question is not clear on whether you mean SQLite is=20= >> installed as part of the port or separately, the port does not = install=20 >> any files that might indicate the presence of an internal copy of = SQLite. >=20 > I've never set ports options at all. I just do generic installs, > whenever I'm forced to use ports rather than packages. =20 >=20 > MariaDB 10.1 was and should still be a standalone installand with > no dependencies at all. So to see config-recursive pop up config > screens for sqlite, tcl, and other stuff that has no logical > connection to MariaDB at all is disconcerting to say the least. Unfortunately, "What scratch65535 wishes the dependencies would be" = isn't the determining factor in the dependency list. MariaDB requires libxml2. libxml2 requires libiconv, gmake, pkgconf, and = a few others. MariaDB builds with cmake. cmake requires python, = libexecinfo, and libarchive, the latter requires liblz4 and liblzo2. = Every one of those dependencies has dependencies, and many of THOSE have = dependencies. You can minimize the number of dependencies by running make config. But = you acknowledge that you already knew this, and that merely seeing = config dialogues is offensive to you. Those config dialogues exist so = that you can reduce dependencies. By default, ports in general enable = all the features that the average person MIGHT want. If you don't need = them, turn them off. This is getting tiresome, scratch65535. You're complaining constantly, = which is fine: FreeBSD gets better when people talk about problems they = encounter. But then you keep refusing to solve them when you're told = how, and that isn't fine. What did you think the response to "MariaDB has too many dependencies, = but I don't want to turn them off myself" was going to be? # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 02:36:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C67CDE110 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leres@ee.lbl.gov) Received: from fun.ee.lbl.gov (fun.ee.lbl.gov [IPv6:2620:83:8000:102::ca]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fun.ee.lbl.gov", Issuer "ACS 3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BEFE1B33 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leres@ee.lbl.gov) Received: from hot.ee.lbl.gov (hot.ee.lbl.gov [IPv6:2620:83:8000:102:0:0:0:cb]) (authenticated bits=0) by fun.ee.lbl.gov (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v1E2aZNF086627 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 18:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leres@ee.lbl.gov) Subject: Re: poudriere: devel/llvm39: runaway_process To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <303419bf-7502-3f79-ce7a-a0bb720a9fd5@ee.lbl.gov> From: Craig Leres Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 18:36:35 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <303419bf-7502-3f79-ce7a-a0bb720a9fd5@ee.lbl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:36:36 -0000 On 01/18/17 13:49, Craig Leres wrote: > My poudriere build servers have been unable to build devel/llvm39 ever > since some ports changed from llvm37 (January 17th?) The error is > runaway_process and this happens during the package phase. It looks like > pkg-static spins for one hour at which point poudriere gives up on it. To close the loop on this the issue turned out to be "CFLAGS=-g" in make.conf. Removing -g caused llvm39 to build in a reasonable amount of time. Craig From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 04:08:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A8CCDE852 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from viclamta14p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta14p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "", Issuer "Openwave Messaging Inc." (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3911109A for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep16p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20170214010309.HUPZ10286.viclafep16p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:03:09 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2017.2.14.4817:17:7.944, ip=110.141.193.233, rules=__HAS_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __IN_REP_TO, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __PHISH_PHRASE11, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_900_999, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, IN_REP_TO, MSG_THREAD, __TO_REAL_NAMES, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, NO_URI_FOUND, NO_CTA_URI_FOUND, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP, __MIME_TEXT_P, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.11-1) id 58220F5304D5070F for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:03:08 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1E1379m064951 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:03:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1E136bx064849 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:03:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:03:05 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Problem with building libgcrypt In-Reply-To: <20170213113556.1913eea4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Message-ID: References: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20170213113556.1913eea4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:08:20 -0000 On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > cc: error: no such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.so' > > gmake[4]: *** [Makefile:534: libxslt.la] Error 1 > > That's probably still because of some .la file. I did run those commands as suggested... > Does /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la still exist? -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 919 Dec 12 2010 /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la Hmmm... That should go too. Note that I didn't build this system; I merely "inherited" it and not having any FreeBSD experience I took the cautious "engineers" approach of "it it ain't broke, don't fix it" so I confined myself to kernel and security updates, otherwise leaving ports strictly alone. > What is the output of "pkg which /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la"? Not found; I sense a generic approach to any more errors of this type :-) Thanks. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 04:28:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB03CDD29F for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nschwqsrv03p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwqsrv03p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.237]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31B7B1E49 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nschwcmgw07p ([61.9.190.167]) by nschwmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20170214041131.BRJO2876.nschwmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw07p> for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:11:31 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([110.141.193.233]) by nschwcmgw07p with BigPond Outbound id kUBW1u00F52cND201UBWXg; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:11:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=at5PcntV c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=TvkhTCJTHxvgfgVXdbMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1E4BUJh071001 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:11:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1E4BUEt070998 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:11:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:11:30 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Problem with building libgcrypt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20170213113556.1913eea4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:28:38 -0000 > > What is the output of "pkg which /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la"? > > Not found; I sense a generic approach to any more errors of this type :-) Removed as suggested (along with libxslt) as nothing claimed to be using it, now it's complaining that they're missing when building graphics/peps (I gave docbook a miss): libtool: error: cannot find the library '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' or unhandled argument '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' Why is libiconv.la now suddenly required? At this rate it'll be a full install, but that is definitely a last resort (and the 10.3 CD I burned had better be readable). -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 05:04:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C148FCDE879; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@petermann-it.de) Received: from d2ux.org (d2ux.org [5.9.151.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5717D1FF4; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@petermann-it.de) Received: from d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DD3407D57; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:57:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at d2ux.org Received: from d2ux.org ([10.0.0.4]) by d2ux.org (d2ux.org [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wXg12ZeNgW2Y; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:57:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from x220.local (p54B46AB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.180.106.179]) by d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EC87407D4C; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:57:15 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ports From: Matthias Petermann Subject: devel/tevent: upgrade from 0.9.28 -> 0.9.31 causes gvfs-mount fail for smb shares, affects also x11-fm/thunar, x11-fm/pcmanfm, x11-fm/nautilus, x11-fm/caja Message-ID: <0722f2f8-3b02-1976-493c-8f1a95716d3c@petermann-it.de> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:57:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:04:03 -0000 Good morning, in early February I had experienced a particular issue related to gvfsusing pkgs from my custom pkg repository (closely tracks head). Some day, x11-fm/thunar and x11-fm/pcmanfm were no longer able to access Samba shares. I did reproduce the issue in an isolated environment (a VM with only FreeBSD base + dbus and gvfs pkgs installed) and was able to reproduce the issue on the command line. # kldload fuse # chmod a+rw /dev/fuse # service dbus onestart With tevent 0.9.28: % dbus-launch csh % gvfs-mount smb://WORKGROUP\;mpeterma@proliant/public % gvfs-mount -l Mount(0): public on proliant -> smb://WORKGROUP;mpeterma@proliant/public/ Type: GDaemonMount (Ok, expected good behavior) With tevent 0.9.31: % dbus-launch csh % gvfs-mount smb://WORKGROUP\;mpeterma@proliant/public (waiting forever..., unexpected bad behavior) With this findings I submitted a bug report[1], currently still in New state with no public visible progress. I am wondering what I could do. Since keeping the 0.9.31 version in ports will make it part of the next quarterly release, I fear a majority of users will recognize the problem then. Best regards, Matthias [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=216230 -- Matthias Petermann | www.petermann-it.de GnuPG: 0x5C3E6D75 | 5930 86EF 7965 2BBA 6572 C3D7 7B1D A3C3 5C3E 6D75 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 09:46:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6272CCDCED1 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikaelmoutakis@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BAD118C for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikaelmoutakis@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 441BBCDCECE; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C57CDCECD for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikaelmoutakis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22b.google.com (mail-ua0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 009F4118A for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikaelmoutakis@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id i68so82471421uad.0 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:46:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=r2wFXh2Ox0qfdP6wwJVFG1jusEjwpNb3btubjsejIlM=; b=XRkvgj0hfbdbRZ2fpTerC6KnoaRBROmMuNnhzqzevKWqxK4/JnSruV3cTTylc4cKT4 WswMAKNHqj5nb1uRuYZv2n+ZgIMyTlQIvb9qZ1O9EswQT+zEVLHAHmsocrXy9yLefQ1+ 9zWwZUtbgJIVq7hqyzE1PNshrTDTZR6xWlLjp5vu72U8VCOwiMFIoun0YC6rvcQisVeY fnDWWX+BJmB57EwelF7Y3uto77XBhs+SIdlvUGMiMPoMirdB4N57qQlW2P+6wJTGlWST ZlsZDCc4zvXihNp7KbUHJB8TD8CEvlFjqh94ot+goP+yQXSEH3Ys1n9PjO/mgcOwRXKi OpxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=r2wFXh2Ox0qfdP6wwJVFG1jusEjwpNb3btubjsejIlM=; b=ANKt5WUFWzvpULdFWPL/IAk/+0tw/i9CYhVq8jYZEqkp0PGllmOHpB/TYmlSMFc0IT /YuQZZYR/RjJ3OlJROA7eiV2u6AhAhjWp5nAfzfnYA9oVhSTqYcWV1dj3b8yUtZhTZBn 2PKTIHzYYuW1Zvx7A7Tv42d4zLuFnD+zQnbDrJuPisgcunN9C+8MNudCdeH4e/vLRUXp rmdPVqWi1y8CjgP5OsZtsEJ/+p7lCwyhMTg2qTdwT+9a9rmQcQF8sxDriu57CRqIWcQg XES5etLLZUVDBARFH6inecl5bPsXHli6VeQCW2KE8fe4t9GBJiymk8/9iGI8vmKjSsy3 IgqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39kKC1qTuZY68Ln6sVkS9tI/UYJKhyU2c/2rluS1C2fVoNsDR71r8KYNg9VbXHQRf42h58jq44fUYL5Nwg== X-Received: by 10.159.40.101 with SMTP id c92mr12310411uac.111.1487065566104; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:46:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.71.207 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:46:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mikael Moutakis Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: duplicity new version To: ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:46:07 -0000 There is a new version of duplicity out 0.7.11. https://launchpad.net/duplicity It fixes a bug where the b2-backend will stop working this week when the company backblaze update their api. Thank you for your great work with the ports collection! I'm using FreeNAS, and it is by far the best NAS I ever used, thanks to FreeBSD and ZFS. 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Baio (dbaio)" To: Mikael Moutakis Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicity new version Message-ID: <20170214102108.ojpjpixuai7jh6r2@dbaio.bs2cloud.com.br> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rasgkwvzlwhvkhuw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170206 (1.7.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:21:14 -0000 --rasgkwvzlwhvkhuw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 10:46:05AM +0100, Mikael Moutakis wrote: > There is a new version of duplicity out 0.7.11. > https://launchpad.net/duplicity >=20 > It fixes a bug where the b2-backend will stop working this week when the > company backblaze update their api. >=20 > Thank you for your great work with the ports collection! I'm using FreeNA= S, > and it is by far the best NAS I ever used, thanks to FreeBSD and ZFS. Hi. There is already a PR for this update. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D216366 If you can, please test it. Regards. -- Danilo G. 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Afonso" To: "freebsd-ports" , "googletransitfeed" , "RIPE Atlas People" , "Will Hargrave" Subject: =?utf-8?B?c29waGlzdGljYXRlZCBzdHVmZg==?= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:01:00 +0400 Message-ID: <1160885649.20170214140100@bekreyev.ru> Content-Language: en-ca MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box337.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bekreyev.ru X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 125.209.96.34 X-Exim-ID: 1cdar4-000432-PC X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (ogpoog-PC) [125.209.96.34]:40480 X-Source-Auth: va@presocratics.org X-Email-Count: 77 X-Source-Cap: cHJlc29jcmE7cHJlc29jcmE7Ym94MzM3LmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:02:00 -0000 RGVhciEgDQoNClRha2UgIGEgbG9vayAgYXQgdGhhdCBzdHVmZiwgaXQncyAga2luZCAgb2Ygc29w aGlzdGljYXRlZCwgaXNuJ3QgaXQ/IEhlcmUsIGNoZWNrICBpdCBvdXQgaHR0cDovL2p1Z2dsZWQu dGlraXRleGFuLmNvbS83MTcwDQoNCkNoZWVycywgQ2FybG9zIEEuIEFmb25zbw0KDQo= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 11:37:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00EACDF801 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay116.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay116.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18C80137A for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2A9BgD56qJY/1fag21eHAEFAQsBg1Nhg?= =?us-ascii?q?QmOU5EbKQGVDIIMIoYAAoFxQRcBAgEBAQEBAQFiKIRqAQU6HCMQCxgJJQ8qHgY?= =?us-ascii?q?TiW+xDYtbAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEkizuKOQWPQ4wvhm+LGHaBZY43kxUhATWBADQqC?= =?us-ascii?q?IcBPzWKIAEBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2A9BgD56qJY/1fag21eHAEFAQsBg1NhgQmOU5EbKQGVDII?= =?us-ascii?q?MIoYAAoFxQRcBAgEBAQEBAQFiKIRqAQU6HCMQCxgJJQ8qHgYTiW+xDYtbAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBAEBAQEkizuKOQWPQ4wvhm+LGHaBZY43kxUhATWBADQqCIcBPzWKIAEBAQ?= Received: from 87.218-131-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([109.131.218.87]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 14 Feb 2017 12:37:08 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1EBb6mi032089; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:37:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:37:06 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Dave Horsfall Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Problem with building libgcrypt Message-ID: <20170214123706.78d66c28@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20170212121812.49432548@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20170213113556.1913eea4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:37:17 -0000 On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:11:30 +1100 (EST) Dave Horsfall wrote: >>> What is the output of "pkg which /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la"? >> >> Not found; I sense a generic approach to any more errors of this type :-) > > Removed as suggested (along with libxslt) as nothing claimed to be using > it, now it's complaining that they're missing when building graphics/peps > (I gave docbook a miss): > > libtool: error: cannot find the library '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' or > unhandled argument '/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' > > Why is libiconv.la now suddenly required? > > At this rate it'll be a full install, but that is definitely a last > resort (and the 10.3 CD I burned had better be readable). Keep following the 20140909 entry in UPDATING. You should run this command now: find /usr/local/lib -name '*.la' | xargs grep -l 'libiconv\.la' | xargs pkg which From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 13:24:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA337CDDE68 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706B81347; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v1EDB6Y4095445 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:11:07 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.1.11] To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: sunpoet@FreeBSD.org From: Paul Macdonald Subject: pecl-memcached (3) Message-ID: <7ed764d9-75aa-8ec4-62b9-c662211edd18@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:11:09 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:24:52 -0000 Hi, pecl-memcached has been updated in the ports tree from 2.2.0.5 to 3.0.1 however 3+ version is for PHP7 only, An IGNORE notice is in the Makefile, we'll all be on php7 sometime, but as PHP56 is still in security release should v3 be a seperate port to avoid v2 generating update alerts via ports mgmt tools? Paul. -- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 13:34:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABD3CDE277 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunpoet@sunpoet.net) Received: from mail-ot0-x22d.google.com (mail-ot0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD781945 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunpoet@sunpoet.net) Received: by mail-ot0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id t47so7205833ota.1 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:34:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sunpoet-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=nY0byRM04jgIXmv4T8D4B7XD7a49AOqxzowEZ5amPoY=; b=aPK2jf5c85ABpzMEGhKkFV/Ogu4ggUMhppjr9fgmSq/7uDU3z7iWJODpflG9eK2PEE wVxkUVCLbI88VezFvANHCZgbi574Ugsa63OGpKj7eVV5vpKd583y76eDpIc+8Gpfq8Nm 9qMcyoIwC2U/N64h8uRbsSwuJ1M5hd8HXcK1oHJ4rsfqD+N8DEfp6XF8LePH7XxUSnLW XqRQ3FRuX2GnHkWtfkeuC+D7TP/nN48escn8A9P9G9MALfwfS/t5q3CFKn0IrtuRq4Hm xBnWEVRasip9XgCrA4/BGL+2eIV0viMRB0/lTrCH/yLWF0QN75rz2j24hdijlNtSBF3M Xy6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nY0byRM04jgIXmv4T8D4B7XD7a49AOqxzowEZ5amPoY=; b=ZG44U5FlLd3cDavt4d/zTgtsQJXj+8mOjHHdQkyY3XRQ6eWTQHPx62yR8cjl8Lq9eT UkzlggnrDLX2p89UvF4emL2mhWiGrzU2neVYecAwiO8rOCniNx2zGBGF8Pnmw2PXqGZb Du9NIYTvltsAVnLvEPnXx0jtGFZZmjzBRA+vVkTTxb8HgUbCVU5VPaoW4x0G8zptPHcU uif1NxCiSVPUcA5488VnFv05F4KmYz4tLATRWOO3fruL1VJdnO8yrruDSbTST2YtFAS/ vmEIsZCK/vL72Vc7b6Ppo8kOOrmCR+B+BgJtBaCg5mPZ1uPhtFtMEAt4IRLO/trXIMB4 f+Bg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mqCuxPaDCw6N+J5WZzWovDcg1K3shzr+WQ+uryEgpVP95KYuM4ksGFZ4x/xm9gKVsznM6g9cjNZyZD5w== X-Received: by 10.157.20.69 with SMTP id h63mr15198940oth.187.1487079244164; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:34:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sunpoet@sunpoet.net Received: by 10.157.60.129 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:33:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7ed764d9-75aa-8ec4-62b9-c662211edd18@ifdnrg.com> References: <7ed764d9-75aa-8ec4-62b9-c662211edd18@ifdnrg.com> From: Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:33:23 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _PlBBijmyNE0KXXq7VJ_UEXiQlY Message-ID: Subject: Re: pecl-memcached (3) To: Paul Macdonald Cc: freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:34:05 -0000 On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Paul Macdonald wrote: > Hi, > > pecl-memcached has been updated in the ports tree from 2.2.0.5 to 3.0.1 > > however 3+ version is for PHP7 only, > > An IGNORE notice is in the Makefile, > > we'll all be on php7 sometime, but as PHP56 is still in security release > should v3 be a seperate port to avoid v2 generating update alerts via ports > mgmt tools? > > Paul. > > -- > > Hello, pecl-memcached will follow the latest version (3.x) and pecl-memcached2 was added for php56 users. Regards, sunpoet From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 13:38:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098CCCDE455 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpg@caomhin.org) Received: from zoidberg.compliantgroup.com (zoidberg.compliantgroup.com [94.23.207.160]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAC711C42 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpg@caomhin.org) Received: from thoth (host86-138-165-92.range86-138.btcentralplus.com [86.138.165.92]) (Authenticated sender: master@caomhin.org) by zoidberg.compliantgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC2C214D3E1 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:30:49 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 zoidberg.compliantgroup.com CC2C214D3E1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=caomhin.org; s=default; t=1487079050; bh=QkO0hJJxetxq5SD/3+AlbJk2NAy/SVHxpXxisi//sBE=; h=To:Subject:References:Date:From:In-Reply-To; b=lDEVDpdxp7U11lvZW87QgD3Jp8ugWaGzzm4bwSIHwHoAy4DZOQRlRQjkDzbOycwsd OFxYyoVbrH4zP6M/sExbcbeuGaEFwgRFj1+zTdt+zJR0NYUyq5xzAFU3s+YJPSA72K NtZiFMg9Wc+kX2Qp9EJudvwD/so8CVo1feJKoFxE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pecl-memcached (3) References: <7ed764d9-75aa-8ec4-62b9-c662211edd18@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:30:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Kevin Golding" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7ed764d9-75aa-8ec4-62b9-c662211edd18@ifdnrg.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:38:58 -0000 On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:11:09 -0000, Paul Macdonald wrote: > pecl-memcached has been updated in the ports tree from 2.2.0.5 to 3.0.1 > > however 3+ version is for PHP7 only, > > An IGNORE notice is in the Makefile, > > we'll all be on php7 sometime, but as PHP56 is still in security release > should v3 be a seperate port to avoid v2 generating update alerts via > ports mgmt tools? v2 was moved to databases/pecl-memcached2 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 18:10:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFA6CDE34F for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jev@ecadlabs.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com (mail-qk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23EEB1C44 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jev@ecadlabs.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id p22so38580660qka.0 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ecadlabs.com; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zJWBQAoYqcwbh/kD3A+ugNkIHFnNrUAfpPTnSe+HUHM=; b=grjm1dA+hiG8ctdqHVLigPCcGkV5rQtBnwfali89okikJvdxCueedTzNKxEbEfT2ER nKQ/p5yFuODzUxYiqRKLsivyI0LPIULjqA2cjA7sUMvzhgg3oPo+CJ900Thg8XCdEg01 pBalx1jsjwlr6kU93rElhHo+n3ORIMwEztEqjXhBwI30MBM1RVLevE6YGe1WbAdWkptn ucuaiIKRLLGA6IZ5r5wEoiJOFxKWtQqTSTohtP4AW5KqRl6K9CsSn8wDt0Z0ew+Grup+ O+mfzN/D7nP19UK9TdamImp98E52nzi0+5c7Ik6zwwwWasoCsrmaEBeK3kpwmL4Nqt1b Jl5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zJWBQAoYqcwbh/kD3A+ugNkIHFnNrUAfpPTnSe+HUHM=; b=YfX5TQHaSVfKRJcHLiGkwRpbyx5U3kP4uv09wq2d0aqaGSPRv6Aog2zqh8NUOaASNl aGk4HdpkY9U7kcrX4gYu+S7XVF0sITUKz/qlA9w/jvC4FW0uDjhKf/7HvA8X2J8r0Ogt 08M2ueH7IkuVvQwxZZceciPULxe6dnBmWaZF5GG3T1htM1WWPfcToPM0D1jzMdffCifr YHYJBCH5wVPOLVAS+jgmlVADYIpUTgXSsSAL9TGUrAaNNexI5EBs7pS+WdRD1RZ2ZwCt Q8efwdr9fWoJlvmLk8ClHuX57FVxHppMabHPExhS4ywlKo/Jd75+itAvY+Z5md984fkE 9fPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lcc80clLrs4RKQgLtTEb6wDnV/k9g2lU8tTLHPxlaOJ/rUFysSrArUTjv3Tce+PqQ2x7qWLlZHJZOhvHF4 X-Received: by 10.233.237.135 with SMTP id c129mr7551491qkg.160.1487095855567; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:10:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jev_Bj=C3=B6rsell?= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:10:44 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: net-mgmt/prometheus update to 1.5.2, comitter requested To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:10:57 -0000 Hi All, Could I get a committer to apply my latest update patch for net-mgmt/ prometheus? Patch is available here: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=216973 Thanks so much, -Jev From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 20:51:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4FCCDF4BD for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE3D51A9E; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id k200so20773765itb.1; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:51:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Vsb0VcDBvxnLEpiINMRJAe7l57FNCzCDddpaAZrl5ZI=; b=nvjTgtPVSeB5f67CZyDfAssbuGoeD0viJx2S7ltaMUsLbYs17pBsg25uZSCsmsWnia Hb7vnxhnITCdDaaVNj1KAIBg6Dh27V/2sA8R4OeoOZbvf6K+Yc/jhSFvs1o9NDBg1Myc uTgnQ2daqYVWKAkXg2YmNIRwVNZMGzYzYRGhqD2bDMsKF9DhjymACeP3uxv2AlWdHIJH 0J+nRWp28mTLL8TLFAcBFL8CDc0WOOanwmZe/0f5TkeQc7imiQPbqKoCORUOrA62i3r/ Avqs4hsp4r0U2T32o3XUVxpBBOyXWqJOcggE9FElnmvYcdWAcGBlDS00mXz+h0yMdfW+ OyHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Vsb0VcDBvxnLEpiINMRJAe7l57FNCzCDddpaAZrl5ZI=; b=Y8gWoOMGRnbhx2lnO6vtkDdsUbCUJRRJQICQLTsx+4dlrltIaGIOIsk1QuAIyprPS9 1wsr6WpzqIW3CV7judVoT3SOcxbtRWJA9EyjVXhg4akHEz/wBHCK80o23cl2VdpyZaUo t1PhfHJCoghboiLB3bdCRwnVh86p8OOMhj1CJa10PtvZNLSNom6/6T94EhblYXC5aS+f 0GWp1TlU5iTbTEOVfR96iSIg9aJpUcYIpNrzjV2EYtuZ2GjL8bHUCHrOBegOx9hY5X6j UsMf9805k5JTZ0hqfSzhrvMOirAP33CRakIe1AkAnDCBBlVyv3a+VWdFEQ0HusPYj+c2 vDXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39k8X/Z3pc8QQmg1vLa8GB/vVeG7NKiXIXPJBZFMxIdJRsuJI4fa6fyazTpM2SiNjvhubQQU1DCOhRoJiw== X-Received: by 10.107.147.87 with SMTP id v84mr27487987iod.63.1487105477061; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:51:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.29.130 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:50:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dewayne Geraghty Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:50:46 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? To: ports-list freebsd Cc: gibbs@freebsd.org, phillip@freebsd.org, hrs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:51:21 -0000 Occasionally we=E2=80=99re called to account for our decisions, reflect upo= n their correctness and at times reverse the decision. John Marino (John) has conducted himself with a passion for making decisions in the interests of ports' users over many years with great professionalism and enthusiasm. At times, this passion exudes into bravado, even exuberance. This is not uncommon when sharing deep-seated beliefs of how things should be done. Sometimes, perhaps too rarely we see contrary opinions expressed in the various FreeBSD lists. As I=E2=80=99ve observed with my first and second level managers, the weak = managers never hire people that challenge their views, or have talents superior to their own; they hire people with lesser abilities. To their detriment they deny themselves the opportunity to grow. Similarly with community-based projects, I=E2=80=99m currently a Director of one, in this context strongly divergent views distract from the singular imperative of helping others. Regardless such views cause, reflection =E2=80=93 are we heading in the right directio= n; are our actions aligned with our mission; is our strategy meeting the goals of our customers (the needy in the community); are we properly communicating and advocating our purpose. Time consuming and sometimes unpleasant, the opportunity to review and challenge is worthwhile. John is significant contributor to the ports user-base, he has advocated views which represent the needs of the user-community and his expulsion, the reasons for them and the analysis of his expulsion upon the project should be communicated, for transparency and reassurance that such decisions are in the interests of everyone. This is simply inadequate: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433827 https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433856 I value John=E2=80=99s forthright opinions, and his motivations and contrib= ution to GNU, Ada, DragonflyBSD and FreeBSD are not unrecognised. He articulates his position clearly; his design and development efforts are sound, and the development of Synth is appreciated. This lack of transparency suggests that he is divergent, so lets examine this as a reason for expulsion. Was it due to providing a choice. Users of FreeBSD have a choice: a) build their own build/development system b) use poudererie - which to me is another layer of complexity and another source of frequent change c) use synth - where transparency and is relatively simple to use. The ports system has undergone significant change over the last 4 years, much of it needed and requiring significant time and active contribution by the meta-ports developers. Unfortunately the cost to those using the ports system during this time has been significant. I see John as a stabilising influence (as Doug Barton was) - is this the reason? Lets just examine FreeBSD for a moment. The project is fantastic and so many different ideas and approaches have collaborated and continue to progress; I was a saddened when Matt Dillon split from FreeBSD. Its a testament to all that there remain, that a high level of exchange and collaboration continues and John has acted as a conduit and has contributed in this area also. So how should we view =E2=80=9CThe FreeBSD Project"? Its really split alon= g the logical boundaries of: the base system, the ports meta-system, and the ports system. The ports system is actively maintained by many ports =E2=80=9Cmaintainers= =E2=80=9D and the frequency of change reflects the changes to applications (source) that is under greater scrutiny to be (more) secure. This is ok, and I=E2=80=99ll c= ome back to this. I started with FreeBSD in 2003, when packages were available and this greatly contributed to my uptake of FreeBSD. Over time, I needed to customise my settings sometimes for performance reasons, usually for security reasons. I was very happy with the ports system, and I was able to work-around the changing library versioning issues; but it did need to be fixed. Roughly 4-5 years ago pkg and the meta-ports system underwent significant and needed change. The folks doing this work have done a great job; but. T= he implementation of the changes had a deleterious effect. The frequency of change became intolerable, at one point we had 0.25 of an FTE just maintaining our build systems. We rebuilt all packages overnight which enabled testing in the event of critical issues for our clients. Had we known of the meta-ports flux we would've changed our business model and commitments to our customer base. Now we see discussions over whether ports should be supported past the EOL of an OS. Seriously? I had a client that refused OS upgrades, so we maintained up-to-date ports for around 4 years after FreeBSD 6.1 was EOL. Ridiculous but a credit to the ports and meta-ports developers/maintainers, at the time. Our view of FreeBSD being rock-solid was reinforced. However, nothing like this should be expected to be supported, though packages should be able to be built for two or three minor revisions back - if only to give the people looking after servers a time to schedule and update. Th= e current practice of changing the ports system to disable the building of ports on =E2=80=9Colder=E2=80=9D OS is a disservice. Another scenario: Lets say FreeBSD X.Y is EOL'ed, a CVE is issued for an application. Unfortunately we often hear: "Too bad, they should upgrade." Really? If that CVE was say, heartbleed, for (in my case) 1450 servers to be left unsupported, or according to the current paradigm - require an OS upgrade is frankly, ridiculous. When I was the Head of Security for a minor bank. I asked "Have you considered FreeBSD for this use?" - instant derision. Lots of reasons, little to do with the FreeBSD base system. Dra= w your own conclusions. Microsoft got it right. Users want applications, and they will rely upon the OS to provide a solid and reliable base. The FreeBSD project has dedicated and enthusiastic port maintainers. They can, do and should upgrade their ports with a tempo that maintains significance (for features, fixes) and timeliness (security); however the meta-system should be subject to the same rigor as the rest of the FreeBSD development to convey a sense of reliability and stability. FreeBSD base development progresses with: - an idea - discussion - code development and availability for open review - development and placement into current/head, further review - move the developed code into stable - further opportunities and testing - beta cycles - release candidate cycles - Release! vs the ports meta system. - an idea - code - release into production (at times re-release into production the same day= ) This isn=E2=80=99t to say the developers are wrong in their pursuit of enha= ncing the environment, which is commendable, rather this should be performed against a plan or schedule and perhaps notification of what=E2=80=99s comin= g or about to be changed so Admin=E2=80=99ers can plan and schedule their work. = This comes back to governance. And we need to remain cognizant that not all FreeBSD users are in first world countries; with multiple boxes available for build/testing. If anyone is challenging the way things are, and trying to make the various FreeBSD domains better, good luck to them. The FreeBSD Foundation should be providing sound governance, and develop an advocacy program to RETAIN those that currently use FreeBSD, instead I'm witnessing departures at a disconcerting rate. It might say something about the SAMBA project, but I had maintained separate email folders from the SAMBA and FreeBSD lists since 2005; the level of interaction/discussion on these, relative to each other has dropped alarmingly (ie SAMBA remains high) So when someone makes a significant contribution, is an advocate for excellence - forcing them out raises serious issues about the management of the ports system and the overall governance provided by the FreeBSD Foundation. This calls into question the relevance of FreeBSD=E2=80=99s ab= ility to continue to provide a reliable, solid body of work that Server owners in particular, are proud to use and advocate. Transparency, sound judgement and the criteria for rejecting high-value contributors are the issues here. And when someone with John's talent is being pushed out, then the wider community should be made aware of the circumstances and the criteria. (For the record, I've disagreed with John on something years ago - the discourse was invaluable, as John is at times a forceful antagonist which as history shows, is often, and at times unintentionally, of great value. BTW we use portmaster as it is fit-for-our-purposes; though we have (had) plans to migrate to Synth) FreeBSD is an amazing operating system, I=E2=80=99ve read every svn entry i= nto stable for the last 4 years =E2=80=93 unbelievably smart people. I use 103= 7 ports from the ports tree, and value all those that contribute their time and effort to the betterment of computational =E2=80=9Cstuff=E2=80=9D; the feat= ures and the productivity that are provided. There are areas that need to be improved, and I think that John contributes positively (albeit abruptly) to the Project. At the very least we should know why, and by what criteria he is judged? Regards, Dewayne. PS I'd prefer to be silent and let things run their course - but that would be seen to acquiesce with something that I perceive as harmful to =E2=80=9C= The FreeBSD Project". --=20 *Disclaimer:* *As implied by email protocols, the information in this message is not confidential. Any intermediary or recipient may inspect, modify (add), copy, forward, reply to, delete, or filter email for any purpose unless said parties are otherwise obligated. Nothing in this message may be legally binding without cryptographic evidence of its integrity and/or confidentiality.* From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 21:05:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D5DCDFA97 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4313F1451; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cdkHe-0003zm-Fn; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:05:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:05:10 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Dewayne Geraghty Cc: ports-list freebsd , gibbs@freebsd.org, phillip@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? Message-ID: <20170214210510.GT13006@home.opsec.eu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:05:09 -0000 Hi! Thank you for your post, and for asking this question: [About John Marino] > At the very least we should know why, and by what criteria he is judged? We all hope that this is explained in more detail, the sooner the better. And thank you for also asking all the other questions. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 21:17:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF20CDF1E2 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DAA51E90 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 695D93794 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066BA30CBC for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:17:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id ZJipYdoRFss3 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com F0BAB30CB5 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: From: Bryan Drewery Openpgp: id=F9173CB2C3AAEA7A5C8A1F0935D771BB6E4697CF; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan2.asc Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:16:30 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iTFrfnBqJL03kmrq15j21rb1PEua9AjFt" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:17:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --iTFrfnBqJL03kmrq15j21rb1PEua9AjFt Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1kIoVvbsLqi0tON90tQFg7h5xBNG5PBPd"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? References: In-Reply-To: --1kIoVvbsLqi0tON90tQFg7h5xBNG5PBPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433827 I think that commit message combined with https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. >=20 > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433856 This commit may have been an error and is being discussed. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --1kIoVvbsLqi0tON90tQFg7h5xBNG5PBPd-- --iTFrfnBqJL03kmrq15j21rb1PEua9AjFt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYo3OvAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPEq0IAKpymCMvaVEtLkxOHhswv43S kCEYcK2ep9DFgb2pHw5r5J4tQ34wi6jPJlisnEg7S7O5h1zkRGiTO1BQxY0ISUm8 SJ4R0+Pf3SEc9RyWLR0Q3sgKnysqZdEq3i2GnFca7yU7ge3/cA8hwEUWl2e7fnI2 16xRXYb93qncjgCPVoM83RfWm8S/mr9fCtYqK+VF96ntvL05ES90H2W4WQQHxPOw gDx8rjoxswvB+yEfzupUQS2O94vfxkZ+r48pW9SQW2Skoh9GbxGF9rN+SPnY3uau EDLK9A3KnAkqSV+PZMkU5jB8s+syCnrJcMw4aGrrrlex4xRb6/uOKeeFiI5DByI= =FMjc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iTFrfnBqJL03kmrq15j21rb1PEua9AjFt-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 22:51:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA689CDF9DA for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E5D715A8 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v1EMpQOf097352 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: References: From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:51:33 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: <638b212c6a4d66a910a8a2b675b9a236@ultimatedns.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:51:06 -0000 On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:50:46 +1100 Dewayne Geraghty wrote > Occasionally we’re called to account for our decisions, reflect upon their > correctness and at times reverse the decision. > > > > John Marino (John) has conducted himself with a passion for making > decisions in the interests of ports' users over many years with great > professionalism and enthusiasm. I'm usually very much disinclined to get even remotely involved in what may appear to be political / internal drama. But in this instance, I feel strongly compelled to respond. I met John through my initial interest in getting involved in the ports system -- maintaining ports. I immediately recognized that John was a man of strong convictions. He was always outspoken -- he spoke "straight", and I greatly appreciated it! We had many disagreements. I'm strong minded, and as a result, resistant to change. But I must humbly admit that I ultimately had to agree with John nearly every time. As a result I have a tremendous amount of respect for John -- he earned it! Some may find outspoken people abrasive, or undesirable, and reject them. If that's the case here; I can easily say they're missing the forest, for the trees. Sound reasonable advice, and knowledge is good; no matter *what* tone it's spoken. I can tell you this; John gave me a leg up, into becoming a ports maintainer. He must have done a fair job, in my opinion. As I currently maintain over 100 (one hundred) ports. I have but one outstanding pr(1). Which I was working on, when I read this message. I can also tell you; because of my strong mindedness, I was *not* an ideal candidate for a mentor. I can assure you, I challenged John's patience a number of times. But out of his guidance, and insistence TDTRT. I've managed to maintain the number of ports I do today. So I guess what I'm trying to say is this; John demands the best. Which produces high quality output from those whom work with him. If John Marino has been excommunicated from FreeBSD. The only looser will be FreeBSD itself. My writeup on this is due to the OP alluding to the reason for John's expulsion somehow being related to his "outspokenness". Something *I* found to be a *great* *attribute*. Thanks for all your time, and consideration. --Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 23:04:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A7CDFDA5 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.grem.de (outcast.grem.de [213.239.217.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7AF41B1C for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 55444 invoked by uid 89); 14 Feb 2017 22:58:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.250.192?) (mg@grem.de@93.104.86.174) by mail.grem.de with ESMTPA; 14 Feb 2017 22:58:09 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? From: Michael Gmelin X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14D27) In-Reply-To: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:58:08 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> To: Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:04:53 -0000 > On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: >=20 >> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433827 >=20 > I think that commit message combined with > https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and the C= oC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top transparent/detaile= d to be honest. >=20 >>=20 >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433856 >=20 > This commit may have been an error and is being discussed. That seems quite draconian and - if it isn't reversed - needs a good explana= tion. -m >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Regards, > Bryan Drewery >=20 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 23:16:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD7FCDFF74 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1A4E1F14; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE65D5172; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D37300AA; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:16:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id zqXpF5GQj2sx; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com A6414300A2 To: Michael Gmelin References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Bryan Drewery Openpgp: id=F9173CB2C3AAEA7A5C8A1F0935D771BB6E4697CF; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan2.asc Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:15:31 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gpSCKR06SAF99a8fpWMKTxrihOunFkAep" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:16:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --gpSCKR06SAF99a8fpWMKTxrihOunFkAep Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="OiEVcNjDE1gP9Rilt9MO4QTb3sH2HOBsj"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: Michael Gmelin Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> --OiEVcNjDE1gP9Rilt9MO4QTb3sH2HOBsj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433827 >> I think that commit message combined with >> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. > The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and= the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top transparen= t/detailed to be honest. Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag your name through the mud for some reason? I don't think it's our place (the project) to say more than we already have publicly. Please drop this before it gets out of hand. Discussing people personally/negatively in a public forum is not appropriate. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --OiEVcNjDE1gP9Rilt9MO4QTb3sH2HOBsj-- --gpSCKR06SAF99a8fpWMKTxrihOunFkAep Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYo4+TAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPCeYH/2xWlm4exbduLwvTToINDkjg Z/lGGs+AYWPyirLixG054P9vDrIg1baB3KQyV0Edvv4gYx3Rx/LCgVb+WxvhYvlS Ek7gCahzDzRoBP87HKhzdgpNUCGkCExZWmSPb0OPjehZ73plXg+BM15aKB9Tij4H iispMlO4BAy3kIIa4413AwrGBtfjHifiGk3bAtTMKKjDQ36gb2rfx1eU9LoN3DYQ yK3qrOMvpR0xaZ9A7jKhSZSEJ03A4vXZvCLFiaECyElw+wpIbqeVPuwQ4BIxWyiB pmIRzfH1tBJxVaZ6PLTf2j26HaQLoXsGYI3FXKWRoTOR8dy8TxIEAwkVRgkcxeg= =lGNO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gpSCKR06SAF99a8fpWMKTxrihOunFkAep-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 14 23:32:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEBFC037E1 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.grem.de (outcast.grem.de [213.239.217.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7375518ED for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 55836 invoked by uid 89); 14 Feb 2017 23:32:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.250.192?) (mg@grem.de@93.104.86.174) by mail.grem.de with ESMTPA; 14 Feb 2017 23:32:36 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? From: Michael Gmelin X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14D27) In-Reply-To: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:32:36 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <84F7C3CF-ECF2-4039-9D73-D45E5100F7E8@freebsd.org> References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> To: Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:32:39 -0000 > On 15 Feb 2017, at 00:15, Bryan Drewery wrote: >=20 > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >>>> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D433827 >>> I think that commit message combined with >>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. >> The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and t= he CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top transparent/det= ailed to be honest. >=20 > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? I don't think it's our place (the > project) to say more than we already have publicly. Please drop this > before it gets out of hand. Discussing people personally/negatively in > a public forum is not appropriate. >=20 Well, if it was something he said in public, pointing to it might be enlight= ening. On the other hand, I assume he could always do that himself if he fee= ls like it. One way or the other, I'll miss his positive contributions and I'm saddened t= hat this happened. -m From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 01:00:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3260CDEF51 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 01:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from viclamta14p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta14p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "", Issuer "Openwave Messaging Inc." (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 850F211D9 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep17p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20170214213915.TOEJ11035.viclafep17p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:39:15 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2017.2.14.204516:17:7.944, ip=110.141.193.233, rules=__HAS_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __TO_REAL_NAMES, NO_URI_FOUND, NO_CTA_URI_FOUND, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP, __MIME_TEXT_P, NO_URI_HTTPS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.11-1) id 58233D4704E926E0 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:39:15 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1ELdEcI029064 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:39:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1ELdEIQ029061 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:39:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:39:14 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Finally got ports rebuilt! Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 01:00:14 -0000 Well, almost; just a few rough edges to smooth over. Background: after upgrading to 10.3 from 9.3, I then attacked the long-neglected ports area. Now, I sort of inherited this installation, and having an engineering background i.e. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Just so you know where I come from, I also have 40+ years of Unix experience across a wide range of platforms; FreeBSD is my first, although I used SunOS and BSDi for many years, so I'm hardly new to BSD. I was scrupulous about installing various security fixes, however... So... There appears to be circular dependencies involving libiconv and libxslt, which I resolved by installing them by hand. All sorts of things want the Ruby bloatware (it won't build on my box) so I installed it as a package. Riding shotgun for most of the night (yawn...), some things kept wanting to build LLVM (!), so I merely blew them away one by one (there's no way that LLVM will build here); I doubt whether I'll miss them, but I can always install them as packages if they're needed. UUCP needed to be rebuilt? And Apache, although installed from ports, was not selected to be rebuilt for some reason. Anyway, that's pretty much it; many thanks to David Wolfskill and Tijl Coosemans for their kind assistance, and to the list members for their forbearance as I went through this learning exercise; I promise to keep ports up to date in the future. Thanks again. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 04:45:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA53CDF436 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9172B13E1 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8DCC7CDF435; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D60CCDF434 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) Received: from a27-34.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com (a27-34.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com [54.240.27.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C73513DF for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=stdm37fqbypyvw6iolbo3nkyd73es3w7; d=vmeta.jp; t=1487127290; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID; bh=LzqAgcD0mKWq+UPAaz3TD4tCs29xXNxbHZ9+Gr4i20A=; b=TVtchfOSNwOxMOwSjnFN+pWqJIpdbCxOa2hqRT/aDROTn8OGWRvuaj5APOaB6AEa 8bpPdkmKfUaPCeSTZqOdtoFkMcjHP1KtHJUokVm+u0vvWO+SVp11vVKyePX9NQUxQvY /0F7qQrdJ++OjoFRaj1MEGKakDGz4gSMiyq8nI3U= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=gdwg2y3kokkkj5a55z2ilkup5wp5hhxx; d=amazonses.com; t=1487127290; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID; bh=LzqAgcD0mKWq+UPAaz3TD4tCs29xXNxbHZ9+Gr4i20A=; b=OY7X9HDyHdcOTuePGs7tIc8nrKmo5Erw1287r9YKqs3nspRQfOsfZiwDi4T8hBJp fFQ+t3/rWZ0/FaL7Uc0KF0ksk6nXcJiHZmDeLOqgLcIaEjUMwDs9lQfwDYhzzCukrHJ IY69D8JjdvFaXiL0o3LH8/wfZf9QvpLgzx2wWx54= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on glory.vmeta.jp X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_d44ef5f2a19f538a48610d54fec930c6" Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 02:54:50 +0000 From: Koichiro IWAO To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults Message-ID: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> X-Sender: meta+ports@vmeta.jp User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.3 X-SES-Outgoing: 2017.02.15-54.240.27.34 Feedback-ID: 1.us-west-2.ngRt4x2U/cWqug8pbfjwMxB6pcDw1fmN73bGmMLYyRI=:AmazonSES X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:45:40 -0000 --=_d44ef5f2a19f538a48610d54fec930c6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi, After recent update of xorg-server, the new xorg-server segfaults. I'm using FreeBSD in VirtualBox so the video driver is vboxvideo. I've already rebuilt virtualbox-ose-additions. What can I do? 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MSkuIENsb3NpbmcgbG9nIGZpbGUuCg== --=_d44ef5f2a19f538a48610d54fec930c6-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 06:41:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF43CE0C86 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88603F9 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CEA5BCE0C85; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE296CE0C84 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46FBF3F4 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1F6f1Qv025855 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:41:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua v1F6f1Qv025855 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1F6f1x6025854; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:41:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:41:01 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Koichiro IWAO Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults Message-ID: <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:41:12 -0000 On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 02:54:50AM +0000, Koichiro IWAO wrote: > [180361.824] (EE) Backtrace: > [180361.836] (EE) 0: /usr/local/bin/Xorg (OsInit+0x38a) [0x5abfca] > [180361.846] (EE) 1: /lib/libthr.so.3 (_pthread_sigmask+0x50d) [0x802989bbd] > [180361.857] (EE) 2: /lib/libthr.so.3 (_pthread_getspecific+0xe9f) [0x802989acf] > [180361.871] (EE) 3: ? (?+0xe9f) [0x800000000032] > [180361.882] (EE) 4: /usr/local/llvm39/lib/libLLVM-3.9.so (_ZN4llvm13StringMapImpl15LookupBucketForENS_9StringRefE+0xf0) [0x80b0c0340] > [180361.898] (EE) 5: /usr/local/llvm39/lib/libLLVM-3.9.so (LLVMParseCommandLineOptions+0x7cf) [0x80b08497f] > [180361.909] (EE) 6: /usr/local/llvm39/lib/libLLVM-3.9.so (LLVMParseCommandLineOptions+0x92c) [0x80b084c1c] > [180361.923] (EE) 7: /usr/local/llvm39/lib/libLLVM-3.9.so (_ZN4llvm2cl6Option11addArgumentEv+0x7c) [0x80b078dec] > [180361.934] (EE) 8: /usr/local/llvm37/lib/libLLVMSupport.so.3.7 (_ZNSt3__127__insertion_sort_incompleteIRNS_6__lessINS_4pairIN4llvm10TimeRecordENS_12basic_stringIcNS_11char_traitsIcEENS_9allocatorIcEEEEEESB_EEPSB_EEbT0_SF_T_+0x67d) [0x8199ae31d] > [180361.944] (EE) 9: /usr/local/llvm37/lib/libLLVMSupport.so.3.7 (_ZN4llvm3sys8WatchdogD1Ev+0x32) [0x8199e6264] > [180361.955] (EE) 10: /usr/local/llvm37/lib/libLLVMSupport.so.3.7 (_init+0xe) [0x819944ebc] > [180361.964] (EE) 11: ? (_rtld_is_dlopened+0x1532) [0x80081a3e2] > [180361.978] (EE) 12: ? (dlopen+0x191) [0x800816311] > [180361.991] (EE) 13: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (_init+0x1c544) [0x804a594f4] > [180362.005] (EE) 14: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (_init+0x1b9d9) [0x804a57df9] > [180362.017] (EE) 15: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (_init+0x1b056) [0x804a56a26] > [180362.029] (EE) 16: /usr/local/bin/Xorg (InitExtensions+0x61) [0x4ab931] > [180362.039] (EE) 17: /usr/local/bin/Xorg (remove_fs_handlers+0x3a2) [0x43b4b2] > [180362.050] (EE) 18: /usr/local/bin/Xorg (_start+0x17f) [0x42507f] > [180362.064] (EE) 19: ? (?+0x17f) [0x80083917f] > [180362.065] (EE) > [180362.066] (EE) Segmentation fault at address 0x819a07000 Deinstall llvm 3.7. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 07:17:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F23CDF3A8 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) Received: from a27-34.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com (a27-34.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com [54.240.27.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A61A121A for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=stdm37fqbypyvw6iolbo3nkyd73es3w7; d=vmeta.jp; t=1487143046; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID; bh=LyaI0H6E6Dzm2vdpGcSopXTjp1U9aGSGWAj9uN78zDs=; b=BBQr2ImWrFRa80Sim/UniVQlxEUkxYzJeuXVm/OWnpUm2uq3ywjMvx5K18a4lP+m iYB6VDda/JP30Y5/NhaKNzd7aWBxnULrcXZVduniehQrGRqHcs+qLJEQqPnJlASWO1B oiQI20AXZC/B17E4NJXyFn2nsaeIHce8tKvUK1gU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=gdwg2y3kokkkj5a55z2ilkup5wp5hhxx; d=amazonses.com; t=1487143046; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID:Feedback-ID; bh=LyaI0H6E6Dzm2vdpGcSopXTjp1U9aGSGWAj9uN78zDs=; b=XJ9YTyPTr53PGDYPYXHR1VCR2gjEKCILBHzjzfEWHfmloGzJIX3w08hlex4y12JV D4gy0YlwWCBYAn3lL79AMSuHZxUQUgP326tTMJzR9T2D32vdM/a3BtbCop+uH+lGvbV U/0z1EaZLhjDzbBow4EC/PfxrTZwtwZ0fgfvWZHU= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on glory.vmeta.jp X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:17:26 +0000 From: Koichiro IWAO To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults In-Reply-To: <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> X-Sender: meta+ports@vmeta.jp User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.3 X-SES-Outgoing: 2017.02.15-54.240.27.34 Feedback-ID: 1.us-west-2.ngRt4x2U/cWqug8pbfjwMxB6pcDw1fmN73bGmMLYyRI=:AmazonSES X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:17:29 -0000 Konstantin, Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! -- `whois vmeta.jp | nkf -w` meta From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 07:22:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE7ECDF5D6 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) Received: from a27-34.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com (a27-34.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com [54.240.27.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB8501723 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=stdm37fqbypyvw6iolbo3nkyd73es3w7; d=vmeta.jp; t=1487143188; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID; bh=sFLKKpE6NHsNRa8hdUS4aM7iaosvnz4kgKx33IyWMtM=; b=iMsamxLpGGVlxgQAxUMddQFIuMREh/+Wh4obP/rscLb6t8ApjN7TJDFrwBVZkP3q CFrsENl1V7noYfpb95D4ElBQ1zyd4Hl4Ak7R9ptZcj1ixH9GfrJLcjdLUHKth+g8Qym Uc0TWXTz1z0nPjTd4fxL+Ufq8pj96EQdtpLtyb4Q= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=gdwg2y3kokkkj5a55z2ilkup5wp5hhxx; d=amazonses.com; t=1487143188; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID:Feedback-ID; bh=sFLKKpE6NHsNRa8hdUS4aM7iaosvnz4kgKx33IyWMtM=; b=B7Zg/WMfxipj9367DofWG8kuEt+/g/ckMF3lzd2Ai2ieUiC3IISdr5Jx0lZ5cv93 +Ah2ecXrrktFe80HSos+dqqs5YuV5hbRS4k+20J4OIvUUXynnesFfbSx1dGkot/0Jqz HeHVDS0SGKnwTwdRm9q/h2uBqC5xol9XL/o7g+ho= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on glory.vmeta.jp X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:19:48 +0000 From: Koichiro IWAO To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults In-Reply-To: <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> Message-ID: <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> X-Sender: meta+ports@vmeta.jp User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.3 X-SES-Outgoing: 2017.02.15-54.240.27.34 Feedback-ID: 1.us-west-2.ngRt4x2U/cWqug8pbfjwMxB6pcDw1fmN73bGmMLYyRI=:AmazonSES X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:22:29 -0000 > Konstantin, > > Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! P.S. I actually deinstalled all older versions of llvm, llvm36, llvm37. -- `whois vmeta.jp | nkf -w` meta From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 09:27:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1CCCDEF4F for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DB806A9 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:34759] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 33/4E-19143-3DE14A85; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:26:44 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:26:18 +0000 Message-ID: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:27:52 -0000 Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. Now my question is what is the status of synth? Should I switch from portmaster to synth? If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of extra work. Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. Tom From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 10:18:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45A7CDF2A0 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C49F99D for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61F4C6E0081; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:18:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1FAI59r094316; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:18:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v1FAI47c093443; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:18:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:18:04 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? Message-ID: <20170215101804.GW25286@e-new.0x20.net> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="F20q8ig/xCX9TrYX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p35 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:18:10 -0000 --F20q8ig/xCX9TrYX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 09:26:18AM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >=20 > Now my question is what is the status of synth? >=20 > Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >=20 > If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to > synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of > extra work. >=20 > Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and > don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >=20 Hi Tom, John wants to keep on working on synth: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/59705/ --F20q8ig/xCX9TrYX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJYpCrcXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1t84kH/AldnJS7V2Ex+SLV9MSpbZi0 XqBmVGDVW8WAq8gTl+TNz9k38YehZSyi0pBaENrYutUu66xIBpzz88uxvlSUWGhz 9pPXLDcYN25J/42S0rwm0qmdnkOTX0pELGohdyTihK+30Hxv6fwjPm7l4Von6hmf z4xd6MXqwRZchBLLvVEG1rQN3C+rSEWQ+5IAorwmTUZDbd+B3WbuLFvyuX9VX9tZ pCe/b033mZkSUQLfaYMEEe7jQ9o8hKXDkD0pADauQhL49nsnPFMtaHF5FKpO/5Rz fEnOP6Bsd4xz6t8K+U2cXm3PmPo69dikVJbyllfMDiJkc2cg/e9FQmPRI4OXNn8= =n2yI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --F20q8ig/xCX9TrYX-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 10:23:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF2FCDF56E for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@freebsd.org) Received: from edna.lautre.net (edna.lautre.net [80.67.160.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.lautre.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93F35E7C for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@freebsd.org) Received: from graf.pompo.net (graf.pompo.net [78.225.128.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by edna.lautre.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 316811078CE for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:23:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by graf.pompo.net (Postfix, from userid 80) id 5CC28190786; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:23:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.196.142.92 ([192.196.142.92]) by graf.pompo.net (Horde Framework) with HTTPS; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:23:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:23:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20170215112319.Horde.0jFB9NqLaYwCZsUeqpMrFdV@graf.pompo.net> From: thierry@freebsd.org To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> <84F7C3CF-ECF2-4039-9D73-D45E5100F7E8@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <84F7C3CF-ECF2-4039-9D73-D45E5100F7E8@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Accept-Language: en,fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:23:29 -0000 Selon Michael Gmelin le mer. 15 f=C3=A9vr. 00:32:36 20= 17 : > Well, if it was something he said in public, pointing to it might be=20= =20 >=20enlightening. On the other hand, I assume he could always do that=20=20 >=20himself if he feels like it. John's point of view is readable here: http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2017-February/313221.html --=20 Th.=20Thomas. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 10:33:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CD4CDF877 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp209.alice.it (smtp209.alice.it [82.57.200.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACE149C; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.52.25.226) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 588F429D02E17C3C; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:33:13 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1FAX9FC072264; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:33:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu To: lme@FreeBSD.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Lynis and lsof Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:33:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:33:41 -0000 Hello. security/lynis seems to like having lsof available. However sysutils/lsof isn't listed as a dependency (whether optional or not). Would it be possible to add it, as a convenience? I can provide the patch and/or file a bug report if you'll agree. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 10:49:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6D4CDFDC3 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from mail.abinet.ru (mail.abinet.ru [136.243.72.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9601D22 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from sphinx.abinet.ru (unknown [192.168.2.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.abinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DF6D3CAEE; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:49:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abinet.ru; s=dkim; t=1487155773; bh=4RC+KzHiwpiOMf8rpaa+2i3K5U/rt6/OwIYjytqEJi8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Mk3NxakrWSgklpCGy9XrmJ7eYZ9uc7YJTU11Z4X1eLMuAwWnFhGwYBqlGT4wIIEtD nnp71dwnIwNdW7frrDzE+vxfgP4E5xx/xclMG2FPvcBjt29lJq9KklKNk3MrsbDBWg Aazbtq6Tlj3n41NZmMI/9Itd8lfRcE6zB0FIhPyg= Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> From: abi Message-ID: <7a7c1455-93f8-3b54-84ae-83a8e5cce599@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:49:20 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.4992] * 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid * 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on postfix.abinet.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:49:41 -0000 15.02.2017 12:26, Thomas Mueller пишет: > Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. > > Now my question is what is the status of synth? > > Should I switch from portmaster to synth? > > If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of extra work. > > Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. > > > Tom John said that he will continue to develop synth and new maintainer has assigned already. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 11:11:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B91CDF73C for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67A89C51 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Received: from yggdrasil.alkumuna.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8a74:6e70:232:36ff:fe5c:3a87]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83F0CB005A7; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:11:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from freedom.alkumuna.eu ([IPv6:2a01:e35:8a74:6e70:62a4:4cff:fe54:b212]) (authenticated bits=0) by yggdrasil.alkumuna.eu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v1FBBXu3046277 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:11:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:11:33 +0100 From: Matthieu Volat To: "Thomas Mueller" Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? Message-ID: <20170215121133.01c19d95@freedom.alkumuna.eu> In-Reply-To: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/4hhqX.vDPJv=.UTUlIqcWSH"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alkumuna.eu; s=default; t=1487157096; bh=DoG7XI520HK3Snxj7jqVWIlcTo09tQnA3r70yr2918Q=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gSUIgusrBg8ogevBGMw59sU2xkqSZbexiT1kHX8cn9t0TXHf6+ITUtnQvIUhb2hJmeharumTeeoCEXYtkZHfkLU83NVVoga1PpeyUB4aknn0UL6wM5dEza9My3X6nIMcHD64Y8cMT6kDtwuLDhUWfM5eUIIXtZd6h8+4jvxyDF8= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:11:52 -0000 --Sig_/4hhqX.vDPJv=.UTUlIqcWSH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:26:18 +0000 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >=20 > Now my question is what is the status of synth? >=20 > Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >=20 > If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to synt= h, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of extra wo= rk. >=20 > Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and don't= want to go too far off course updating my ports. >=20 >=20 > Tom >=20 To my knowledge (ie reading freebsd-ports@), portmaster is not deprecated a= nd you are not forced to switch unless you want to use different functionna= lity only provided by other tools... -- Matthieu Volat --Sig_/4hhqX.vDPJv=.UTUlIqcWSH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTxuiqPSkQnzRDOjsP4Q0N5gpmLfgUCWKQ3ZQAKCRD4Q0N5gpmL fkG9AKCH9ZhxOhTJrzqOubXfJIAkr0D99gCeLQbt3yhLKfz4p5xPtUvOTjNLjJs= =+yNm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/4hhqX.vDPJv=.UTUlIqcWSH-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 12:52:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0E7CDF7C4 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 649CD1F6E for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348BE6E0082; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:52:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1FCqt8H057064; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:52:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v1FCqtUF055675; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:52:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:52:55 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lynis and lsof Message-ID: <20170215125255.GX25286@e-new.0x20.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FAjJmzZt7svs8COR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p35 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:52:58 -0000 --FAjJmzZt7svs8COR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:33:09AM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. >=20 > security/lynis seems to like having lsof available. > However sysutils/lsof isn't listed as a dependency (whether optional or= =20 > not). >=20 > Would it be possible to add it, as a convenience? >=20 > I can provide the patch and/or file a bug report if you'll agree. >=20 > bye & Thanks > av. Andrea, thanks for making me aware of this! I just updated the port to 2.4.1 and added a runtime dependency on lsof. 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To: Bryan Drewery , Michael Gmelin References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Jim Ohlstein Message-ID: <785184f2-35d9-ff45-dbaf-4437da9d0cc3@ohlste.in> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:25:31 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:25:34 -0000 Hello, On 02/14/2017 06:15 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >>> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 >>> I think that commit message combined with >>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. >> The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top transparent/detailed to be honest. > > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? I don't think it's our place (the > project) to say more than we already have publicly. Please drop this > before it gets out of hand. Discussing people personally/negatively in > a public forum is not appropriate. > John has posted on the FreeBSD forums[1] that he did nothing and that there is "[no] evidence of continued bad behavior", so this argument holds no water any longer. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending him. I have witnessed his nature publicly, and I have been on the receiving end here on the list and privately. However, he was an extremely active committer and at a time when PR's wait for committers, people complain that there aren't enough volunteers, and mentors are maxed out, perhaps a simple "trust us" (to use John's words) does not suffice. JMMHO of course. [1] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/59705/#post-342589 -- Jim Ohlstein From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 15:01:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311F1CDFFDF for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E92961589 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7b9743c1 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:00:55 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:00:52 -0700 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> To: Thomas Mueller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:01:03 -0000 > On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller wrote: >=20 > Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >=20 > Now my question is what is the status of synth? >=20 > Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >=20 > If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to = synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of = extra work. >=20 > Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and = don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it already = causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it is = unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. You should switch to poudriere or Synth. Poudriere is what most of the = committers use, and it's what all the builder machines use. It's simple = to set up, and is the reference ports tool. Synth is a great builder = too, and AFAIK John is still very actively developing it. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 17:12:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBABCE0695 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAE2B22 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EC5DDCE0694; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6CBCE0693 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B17D6B20; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAD528A2; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11112EF57; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id 3m_SjQP-riAp; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: please fix the pkg downloads system DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com 409052EF4F To: Julian Elischer , FreeBSD Ports Management Team , "ports@FreeBSD.org" References: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> From: Bryan Drewery Openpgp: id=F9173CB2C3AAEA7A5C8A1F0935D771BB6E4697CF; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan2.asc Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <31911924-de5f-5279-e914-4f4a548fe7e8@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:12:21 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BO4owGId8EDrMPkUlxjAn3eQWjp7rAugT" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:12:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BO4owGId8EDrMPkUlxjAn3eQWjp7rAugT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="He2M8x7uwE1bbCd0GhXR2Ct8Gk0UMnAdq"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: Julian Elischer , FreeBSD Ports Management Team , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <31911924-de5f-5279-e914-4f4a548fe7e8@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: please fix the pkg downloads system References: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> --He2M8x7uwE1bbCd0GhXR2Ct8Gk0UMnAdq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/8/2017 8:06 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > please work on having the "Latest" image in a directory that has the cv= s > revision number in its name >=20 > and make the current names just be links to there. >=20 > I ONCE AGAIN (for the third time) got half of one release (432891) and > half of another (433120) because the newest snapshot of the pkgs was > replaced half way through my process of downloading a large set of pack= ages. Yup it is an annoying issue. https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/988 is the tracking bug for it. Ideas and patches welcome. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --He2M8x7uwE1bbCd0GhXR2Ct8Gk0UMnAdq-- --BO4owGId8EDrMPkUlxjAn3eQWjp7rAugT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYpIv1AAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPV58H/08mSSYQh9dqGjHAmkBI6lDK okX4HLhoSpRDpJFDv+o+7m7bNJWnMA59anGBCjUlhsmuq68WZs5C/G7zwJKhyWnR WuU5vM/21qTfQp4RDAp90g9miE2WPLLBloXotvNP7ioxypeCxiZDhDA9vPZMiS4l 47GX/j5eW0BENFGZBG+/H6zQiRTOSdaU1BAfvqEaLE0mbZdeY6A3O2kQP6tbEeMP F99+1TQuB3vzwh12/HXPE2XxeiavDE4UcCAkZRADZo7CHaohe9LrdCalkISoSUSb C5BMUHFei2sS5hQgPfgO6DRUsGIv7wdu9DtPSUrn2zom1VOEr9IWTj2zWay8yxk= =4WI4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BO4owGId8EDrMPkUlxjAn3eQWjp7rAugT-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 18:41:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BFACE0CF4 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot0-x22c.google.com (mail-ot0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 110C01DAB for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 19so11746693oti.2 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:41:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Rz8VQoP3sHa2qZJy5Kl1lKsq2KvE8t83/Yh6N7DF3KU=; b=o2cIU1tfe3NXXliSDmpp3A2N6mn1fArFzQNayrb/MkVh4bJBSfZIu76Xgb4CoEVOfK glAkoyfHS36oVPxi6IvE2+7ZAs5T9oCl7SwL9q2xzp2m8r2tvVABijQSPT1AbebpbYdY ABp2Vk4cBy1dZazdSbmunQIHro41bMGiG7XPrqgIwtUmY8VaJLT7y8rz1XAwkV5ZxtZE rVYitqdrcvQpETypi151SSX7C8oJ/xEoMy+fYT913UDNeN7n5Nv6amYgWu6Z0IMZ0CBi jjnnwk94iwLwN5ymjHniet/wq++jPgwrEiUPqNdDPhreildO35nQE/c3SXR0/dzgI339 z85g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Rz8VQoP3sHa2qZJy5Kl1lKsq2KvE8t83/Yh6N7DF3KU=; b=ODzYGmDDE+LbMv78ty3rW6WRWeRIGqZY1ZyMjge6bPY5HBY1lj2i0hxCwuTX6b0uVY N8OwPHk32ftUrE02qsaesBzFOOKcMxFADThmC24Jzec+4451MAfKAe/3QAcjfR1d9/d9 o2VXwrXpeb128naIWvS47d/g0wWspqHxl3I3efGSCnARLW7so4us4L+Y8l7KCgKIoK/C LgT4BTAwiULgFqxJQNMYKSy5qv33uRwhNTgFwIPsR3IjY9MceYV7zQijWRcUHjRnVUOs BUsEjuqN6Uj1n17rBexjbmyapHIc467Z6FybtiDu9zEgI8hXWNGeswhKcT0TZwXF8yNC lcZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39kY7lETkYVcMz28IHb0z2P8IBJVBArmpBmX9tz+vYdcjNvHdMxe279olXxpI78MEaR70rtgf0Vt8o0pOw== X-Received: by 10.157.49.85 with SMTP id v21mr18984425otd.266.1487184088379; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:41:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.74.32.79 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:41:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170215125255.GX25286@e-new.0x20.net> References: <20170215125255.GX25286@e-new.0x20.net> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:41:28 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G0kVz9UpbgSW2l34eLCcbpg79ek Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lynis and lsof To: Lars Engels Cc: Andrea Venturoli , FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:41:29 -0000 On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:52 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:33:09AM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > Hello. > > > > security/lynis seems to like having lsof available. > > However sysutils/lsof isn't listed as a dependency (whether optional or > > not). > > > > Would it be possible to add it, as a convenience? > > > > I can provide the patch and/or file a bug report if you'll agree. > > > > bye & Thanks > > av. > > Andrea, > > thanks for making me aware of this! > I just updated the port to 2.4.1 and added a runtime dependency on lsof. > In that case, a note that lsof should be added to PORTS_MODULES on /etc/src.conf. lsof uses several undocumented kernel interfaces that are not stable (as they are not intended for external use). As a result, things can break if the kernel is updated without lsof also being updated. PORTS_MODULES will take case of this for those who build the kernel from source. Things get rather messy if you use freebsd-update or packages though, as the packaging system sees no reason to make a new lsof package. I have no idea how to properly handle this. I simply always build lsof from source and lock it so 'pkg upgrade' won't touch it. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 18:47:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F166CE005B for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from mail.abinet.ru (mail.abinet.ru [136.243.72.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C153E650 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from [10.0.0.1] (unknown [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.abinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8976F3CC61; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:47:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abinet.ru; s=dkim; t=1487184424; bh=5O2+NVqpGfPaeu7KgOd0BqyeFACcOdYZgf1FRwlv1fQ=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=khWMI3LQYR2Mn+XnP0zXV8kBd63u5klB8KJBpPQEHIvMzcPo3/Nm2XivnZb9iBOwY lEiZ210AgbD4XvdRtg0HM+GdQmb7IxJr44JL4QfO8Jb71VcLrwNDBywlzhHSGlPViL VBdMeGicspZpRPCqUHpmjaGBowluyBMoWnvvuQvw= Message-ID: <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:47:03 +0300 From: abi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.9) Gecko/20161026 FossaMail/25.2.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Weinberger , Thomas Mueller CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:47:07 -0000 On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> >> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >> >> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >> >> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >> >> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of extra work. >> >> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. > > I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with it on my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and maintain port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from user perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 18:58:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761FCE046F for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BD87C0D for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id bf4169b8 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:58:50 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:58:48 -0700 Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> To: abi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:58:53 -0000 > On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >>>=20 >>> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >>>=20 >>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >>>=20 >>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to = synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of = extra work. >>>=20 >>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and = don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >>=20 >> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it = already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it = is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. >=20 > This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works = without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with it on = my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and maintain = port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from user = perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. Sure it does. poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim Sets options recursively. Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my message. = The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features (currently in = progress) are added to the ports build system, and being unmaintained, = there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 19:17:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA032CE0A20 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from mail.abinet.ru (mail.abinet.ru [136.243.72.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F2D1723 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from [10.0.0.1] (unknown [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.abinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 323903CC89 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abinet.ru; s=dkim; t=1487186272; bh=OLSt5S4SbdgoPnq94YRTSNy9H0L4b5Xi9f0NTyelVdA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=Gw3KaatSYFHwok0vypciyoOl+hyEW99yD0PuYoWlKfME9+3TqrGOXhwB3QRFsOWRT s2wGepSr4JvoeR2rFO70UKR/KQRn3iFtfz1z7XjrxOoLnPmayEzmguBlrhuCmzktph irFlfFHdkylDfMmD3d9vJ2SHff+/5b3Nd+LK9RLU= Message-ID: <58A4A95F.20303@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:17:51 +0300 From: abi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.9) Gecko/20161026 FossaMail/25.2.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:53 -0000 On 15.02.2017 21:58, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi wrote: >> >> >> >> On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>>> >>>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >>>> >>>> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >>>> >>>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >>>> >>>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of extra work. >>>> >>>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >>> >>> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. >> >> This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with it on my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and maintain port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from user perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. > > Sure it does. > > poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim > > Sets options recursively. > > Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my message. The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features (currently in progress) are added to the ports build system, and being unmaintained, there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak. > Poudriere can't be considered as an option for everyone due to it's connection to jails, synth can't set options recursively, however it's extremely simple to use. According to current port tree, portmaster has maintainer and it's simple enough to be fixed by virtually everyone. Can you provide link to new features? Never saw that port tree has some drastically changes. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 20:09:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AB7CE08E7 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A52F15C5 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 9896c4fd TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:09:04 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <58A4A95F.20303@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:09:02 -0700 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <745FB9DE-D067-4757-8916-D1028627183D@adamw.org> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> <58A4A95F.20303@abinet.ru> To: abi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:09:06 -0000 > On 15 Feb, 2017, at 12:17, abi wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 15.02.2017 21:58, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>>>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by = surprise. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >>>>>=20 >>>>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster = to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess = of extra work. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand = and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >>>>=20 >>>> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it = already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it = is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. >>>=20 >>> This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works = without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with it on = my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and maintain = port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from user = perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. >>=20 >> Sure it does. >>=20 >> poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim >>=20 >> Sets options recursively. >>=20 >> Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my = message. The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features = (currently in progress) are added to the ports build system, and being = unmaintained, there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak. >>=20 >=20 > Poudriere can't be considered as an option for everyone due to it's = connection to jails, synth can't set options recursively, however it's = extremely simple to use. >=20 > According to current port tree, portmaster has maintainer and it's = simple enough to be fixed by virtually everyone. >=20 > Can you provide link to new features? Never saw that port tree has = some drastically changes. You're right, jails do require more setup, drive space, and complexity = (not to mention being quite slow on UFS). But at the end of the day, = jails are a better paradigm for building ports. Most failures these days = come from the environment influencing the build, or upgrade problems = rebuilding ports when old ports stop working haphazardly. Best effort is = taken to fix these problems, but maintainers and committers can't = predict every setup possibility; the general target is making sure that = they build in a pristine environment, meaning poudriere. = https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D134825+0+archive/2016/free= bsd-ports/20161225.freebsd-ports for the new features I was referring = to. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 21:27:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECADCE0F2D for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1306E1FB5 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id s203so93451076oie.1 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:27:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=7ehYlJNxCWMi7cg0+EkGSSEkoIJLuaoXBAB1QBXgj4A=; b=mPv4FJJ05zvQEnEo7nc7yrrYR4TvVwSRB5Ms26jqzarF9n0kP1auDImpQyrv06raN4 HVkHifbKV9AAMoxDtf7rzfItmsAhnD6V7aotzNLsjE5Ef5k9R9/PrT/B+PZw2DDsi2nh 4MdqCs53Ekfw7ItXTAxMqimG/nzMmrU12boGKgaexnhx6Bmc0dxQV5YVDMYFkFfPm6MV FBpJDTNwHMESBXTArMEck6ghyZt9whbc8UYQuo3oCHNC6EzfdLL+cNB+G9eDP+/e8y81 r+s81JsQYQVXtDcCSxFOofsKyG/Xtib92R4P7z/mnmYWJXfaTTxDy+K2YVrsqmKTLiDO yv1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7ehYlJNxCWMi7cg0+EkGSSEkoIJLuaoXBAB1QBXgj4A=; b=dhdC0A4koJLcTVvUhkNQkyEii7ZdFE3CstbDaby6CqwBwBXpqhzZA+wBF0A3pM3xG2 EMuKYBBJre97FlXmtLLoGggC+GLVRsa7SRQB5N55qPCwRTaG5ayI1RtLS8ExAqIH3+vI KktaqemJzWRNdRFfVq6jsmT1MCtUhMMJ3qUDnAe1CNAxuVOZXpRopT76dcQlpLjgddUN IS9ui6MUvdOgzW701iErWNOFFfwHITRQqiU5uLDisJ1vvwOhcIZMh0e7H/SUokpDSecX 7qYBzJpEW7W4w57PgZIQKrYS0MQYCoaFW9HFieDlJB3Ol+XGGi4xGIO0K1HyQfAh1wdh R5LQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39m31eKW4P5uvGfRt47ff1HOyWLqBtYwUeroGcQ3Z1PSvev4H3MGWOqtDgdel8m9HCxTEktFoSNEOeAc1g== X-Received: by 10.202.181.11 with SMTP id e11mr20733034oif.57.1487193500172; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:18:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.74.32.79 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:18:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:18:19 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: avbK5WMebTvFQk8SpA902k1TQj8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults To: Koichiro IWAO Cc: FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:27:10 -0000 On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Koichiro IWAO wrote: > Konstantin, >> >> Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! >> > > P.S. > > I actually deinstalled all older versions of llvm, llvm36, llvm37. > > > -- > `whois vmeta.jp | nkf -w` > meta > Isn't it about time to put a note into UPDATING that ALL versions of LLVM older than 3.9 (LLVM39) should be deleted "pkg delete LLVM??" before attempting to build the new Xorg software. I guess that includes libGL, libGLU, libdrm, dri and libglapi. Maybe xorg-server and xorg-drivers, too. Otherwise these reports are just going to keep rolling in. (Well, that won't stop them, but might slow them down and make it easy to tell people where to find the fix.) I'm still nervous about re-starting X because I may have missed something. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 22:36:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EFACE0144 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E023A6 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0E76ACE0142; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C745CE0141 for ; 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Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: HEADSUP: FLAVORS (initial version) and subpackages proposals DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com 1FA5731814 To: Baptiste Daroussin , ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20161219003143.c2qo5wn3a5kiua3m@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> From: Bryan Drewery Openpgp: id=F9173CB2C3AAEA7A5C8A1F0935D771BB6E4697CF; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan2.asc Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <0a23464d-45a7-cd08-0eb4-95a8d39572d0@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:36:14 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161219003143.c2qo5wn3a5kiua3m@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8boomN97SnhW6avuMoRrdSD87wskDgoll" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:36:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8boomN97SnhW6avuMoRrdSD87wskDgoll Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="OFquluVvIrIMiV3HkO7G17eCeTMTAGC1q"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: Baptiste Daroussin , ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <0a23464d-45a7-cd08-0eb4-95a8d39572d0@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: HEADSUP: FLAVORS (initial version) and subpackages proposals References: <20161219003143.c2qo5wn3a5kiua3m@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20161219003143.c2qo5wn3a5kiua3m@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> --OFquluVvIrIMiV3HkO7G17eCeTMTAGC1q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/18/2016 4:31 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I have been working for a while on 2 long standing feature request for = the ports > tree: flavors and subpackages. >=20 > For flavors I would like to propose a simple approach first which is mo= re like a > rework of the slave ports for now: >=20 > Examples available here: > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D8840 (with the implementation) > and > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D8843 >=20 > Design: introduce a 3rd level in the hierarchy and make it work a bit l= ike slave > ports >=20 > pros: > - all slave ports are self hosted under the same directory: easier for > maintenance > - should work with all existing tools >=20 > cons: > - hackish: it is not really much more than a slave port > - it adds plenty of new Makefiles :( >=20 > I think anyway this is an improvement >=20 > Next step after that is in would be to extend it to allow some dependen= cy on "I > depend on whatever flavor if port X" >=20 > Subpackages: > Design: > Add a new macro MULTI_PACKAGES > flag plist with an @pkg{suffixofthesubpackage} file > the framework will split the plist into small plist and create all the = packages > All variables like COMMENT can be overridden with a COMMENT_${suffixoft= hesubpackage} >=20 > pros: > - simple and working almost now > - allow to simplify lots of ports > - options friendly (_PACKAGE automatically appends a new en= try to > MULTI_PACKAGES) >=20 > cons: > - will break the paradigm that certain tools depend on (portmaster/port= upgrade > in particular are a huge problem since they are not actively maintain= ed) >=20 > Example of the usage: > https://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/multipackage.diff >=20 > Note that I took the mpg123 as an example because it was a simple one t= o test > not because it may need subpackages >=20 > As a result you build 3 packages: > mpg123 (the runtime tools) > mpg123-lib: the runtime libraries > mpg123-sndio: the sndio plugin >=20 > LIB_DEPENDS on ports depending on libmpg123.so does not have to be chan= ged, the > framework already automatically register only the mpg123-lib as a depen= dency and > not others. >=20 > Not the example is missing one thing: a dependency between mpeg123-lib = and > mpg123 >=20 > The second is not ready yet and would take time to land >=20 > Any comment? >=20 > Best regards, > Bapt >=20 By the way, support for Poudriere on this is progressing. A Pull request was submitted with support for another FLAVORS-type implementation, that pretty much works with your patches as well. I am working to resolve the DEPENDS_ARGS bug first, which also fixes allowing the same ORIGIN into the queue multiple times. Once that is done, then FLAVORS can be supported in Poudriere. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --OFquluVvIrIMiV3HkO7G17eCeTMTAGC1q-- --8boomN97SnhW6avuMoRrdSD87wskDgoll Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYpNfeAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPdZ4H/0I1V1SO9w3Ir+NCvLPyF6Ey kDI93qVSQ6mItsdZ/W4XP8oxBKAD7/GcDriu8P+BCH6eyr3Y8EGoo9+OEgtfy7FE Y9AydnDDeCLHmRXD98U9nZ5fGeApfzf8T/LO0FAowwlAIFElrmCPowBiz5Iz3j3l N+gg2SAW/cr498+AtWM07pZmXIsohFkJ0K987f59x793Czv40xTTjKij0K2bUTex EZANXo9L3L9Ps5Iv49KKfSNaWzO54KhUy4/+1c7DS0n84sdX9fbhfO2rnzcLc7G3 BWblIe93cvp2AVd4ou/ZxetbbYIQpgp3J85aUHZLuSP5Y2rkhYxaOupTOHzvZn4= =gNBH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8boomN97SnhW6avuMoRrdSD87wskDgoll-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 23:19:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A20CCE0C74 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F2CB1AA8 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1FNJD8w048575 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:19:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1FNJCNq048572; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:19:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:19:12 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Kevin Oberman cc: Koichiro IWAO , FreeBSD Ports ML Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:19:13 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:19:14 -0000 On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Koichiro IWAO wrote: > >> Konstantin, >>> >>> Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! >>> >> >> P.S. >> >> I actually deinstalled all older versions of llvm, llvm36, llvm37. >> >> >> -- >> `whois vmeta.jp | nkf -w` >> meta >> > > Isn't it about time to put a note into UPDATING that ALL versions of LLVM > older than 3.9 (LLVM39) should be deleted "pkg delete LLVM??" before > attempting to build the new Xorg software. I guess that includes libGL, > libGLU, libdrm, dri and libglapi. Maybe xorg-server and xorg-drivers, too. > Otherwise these reports are just going to keep rolling in. (Well, that > won't stop them, but might slow them down and make it easy to tell people > where to find the fix.) > > I'm still nervous about re-starting X because I may have missed something. The ports tree still thinks llvm37 is really needed by some of these, and trying to pkg delete llvm37 wants to also delete many installed applications. This seems wrong, but I have seen zero information about this before, so maybe it is not just my system. I'd be willing to update docs about this, provided someone can clarify just what information needs to be there. `pkg delete -f llvm37' to just delete that, then an entry in make.conf to force llvm39? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 00:44:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553ADCDE31A for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from fedex2.jetcafe.org (fedex2.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23C4295B for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [205.147.26.4] (hokkshideh.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.4]) by fedex2.jetcafe.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1G0gXND082911 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> From: Dave Hayes Message-ID: <5c220e2a-88c9-c79d-75e9-99bac16573fc@jetcafe.org> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:42:33 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1 ( out of 5) ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin version 3.4.1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:44:14 -0000 On 02/14/2017 15:15, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >>> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 >>> I think that commit message combined with >>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. >> The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top transparent/detailed to be honest. > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? For reference, the commit message has this text: > Their behaviour towards their fellow contributors has repeatedly fallen short > of what the Project expects of its members. They were given multiple warnings > that their interactions with other contributors needed to improve and > unfortunately they did not. Don't you think his name is -already- dragged through the mud by having one's commit bit removed with reasons as stated above? Just curious. :) -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>>> *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* <<<< Why is the third hand on the watch called the second hand? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 01:32:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B56CE0FB7 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 01:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629847E0 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 01:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp121-45-93-6.bras1.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.93.6]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 Feb 2017 12:02:48 +1030 Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? To: Adam Weinberger , abi References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <6ded5656-51c7-c60d-8a12-2b2b3c7731ac@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:02:46 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 01:32:53 -0000 On 16/02/2017 05:28, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi wrote: >> >> >> >> On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by >>>> surprise. >>>> >>>> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >>>> >>>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >>>> >>>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from >>>> portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would >>>> be a monster mess of extra work. >>>> >>>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand >>>> and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >>> >>> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it >>> already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works >>> now, it is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. >> >> This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works >> without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with >> it on my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and >> maintain port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from >> user perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. > > Sure it does. > > poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim > > Sets options recursively. > > Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my > message. The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features > (currently in progress) are added to the ports build system, and > being unmaintained, there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak. I used to do that sort thing in tinderbox, with poudriere and the new options framework I prefer to set my options in make.conf. For every build - /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf OPTIONS_SET= OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS SIMD PGSQL IPV6 editors_vim_SET= CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON You can also get more specific by using - /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/---make.conf -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 02:12:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A00CE12DC for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 02:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4AA11BBD for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 02:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v1G2DOAO010526 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: <5c220e2a-88c9-c79d-75e9-99bac16573fc@jetcafe.org> References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org>, <5c220e2a-88c9-c79d-75e9-99bac16573fc@jetcafe.org> From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:13:30 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 02:12:58 -0000 On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:42:33 -0800 Dave Hayes wrote > On 02/14/2017 15:15, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > >>> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: > >>>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > >>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 > >>> I think that commit message combined with > >>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. > >> The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and > >> the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top > >> transparent/detailed to be honest. > Right, would you want an organization > >> you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? > > For reference, the commit message has this text: > > > Their behaviour towards their fellow contributors has repeatedly fallen > > short of what the Project expects of its members. They were given multiple > > warnings that their interactions with other contributors needed to improve > > and unfortunately they did not. > > Don't you think his name is -already- dragged through the mud by having > one's commit bit removed with reasons as stated above? > > Just curious. :) Hello. Is there an *adult* in the room? c'mon. Am I the only one here that see's this as childish behavior? I feel like I'm in a classroom in elementary school, and the teacher just punished one of the students for misbehavior. Or maybe Parents scolding their bickering kids. Aghhh! Don't any of you get it?! You're plowing through thousands of lines of code. You're anxious, you've got a few hundred pr(1)'s to get through. The last thing you are right now is "feely". You intend to get these PR's out, so things can move forward with the ports tree. Which will really help *everyone*. I've been in this sort of situation *thousands* of times, myself. The pressure gets to you. *John* is not the only one here that gets, or ever feels this way, and any of you who have made *any* real commitments to the FreeBSD source/ports/$WORK know damn good and well what I mean here. Summary; This action is a childish outburst by someone, or someone(s) with the power to pull, or the influence to pull commit bits. Pure, and simple. This is NOT how a PROFESSIONAL organization reacts to situations where quality personnel are involved. This sort of thing looks REALLY bad in the press! Say what you want about me. But I know well, and good that many, if not most of you reading along, know what I am saying is at *least* not far off. Thank you for your indulgence, and apologies if any of my language should seem offensive. After some 30 years on BSD, I feel strongly about it, and this sort of thing *really* disappoints me. --Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 03:21:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D64CE06E2 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73E4D908 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id u143so2648635oif.3 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:21:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=89UgbnQ7e8DlNVlmiqDplBbASENyFMO9E9sEviDYTUo=; b=Vz0Ckr5jlpaBbZZZfCTKQN7wYQwsY7bPBxqa8MSoGwou39yN7vkqV2pVaa2UqDNlla 0XYC6c/pFAw+o3pf8qLeW57wlYnaUbUCPJAElFT/BT69iuL5paGzVmxZ2sa639x7NNZK wlw9kXz0H7GKk5ThPdrCuya4en+9IINoaZp5vmHiQU7MFkjXj0bolg1NSqJa9fUAumEr Ylj1S9F1sU7AGRMoxXaUyOrDsBiGOqhxY9FDojnvl1+bE75x50ghclBftkvP9ff75X18 Zk0WncTXk7fb6/ZgyJtjnoxhABMY8tq8r5C4/agrzEntmv8yQxJVkCEewnz0CwHkc0rR /vQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=89UgbnQ7e8DlNVlmiqDplBbASENyFMO9E9sEviDYTUo=; b=T1oSVBRie76YAEtTjq71fVgwecKglIlT3R4em1GguCr0SwFdUctzA3GDpFl7qybEtG rrByx623PI52QInV5T/OYFovkeJ29W+kpcjK2lcFvMgsYtkujK6/2RXKdNAVD7ZUpkmK lqEjf+mEefp60YANzCDmCqp44pw5EvtEBrpUbqLptxK3FGYpPBpBROYAB/JUuj1KksRj 2WDNAhQo46i6vn1AwaAH19Rd47Is9offZWpSNhPt2Xl7KF/rwau1lkY+oQNdapch+Jp8 12xV5/iYN6As/tVklTImrKwefe9+WK8NOVDNU843KUGRvR9xMBS1Qu+SjM0GimsOPnNd PzUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39kA7oEbnSlb6Dty8fcZzeoooEBtbLTaXbNzK4Zzmdmu+o5yT6efFLd4OO/KkJ0TqSQ59f9opDTWGTMqIg== X-Received: by 10.202.183.6 with SMTP id h6mr51866oif.92.1487215315785; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:21:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.74.32.79 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:21:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:21:55 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Fc6yEpF0cmdbXKXAHfAamDA-vN8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults To: Warren Block Cc: Koichiro IWAO , FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:21:56 -0000 On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Koichiro IWAO >> wrote: >> >> Konstantin, >>> >>>> >>>> Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! >>>> >>>> >>> P.S. >>> >>> I actually deinstalled all older versions of llvm, llvm36, llvm37. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> `whois vmeta.jp | nkf -w` >>> meta >>> >>> >> Isn't it about time to put a note into UPDATING that ALL versions of LLVM >> older than 3.9 (LLVM39) should be deleted "pkg delete LLVM??" before >> attempting to build the new Xorg software. I guess that includes libGL, >> libGLU, libdrm, dri and libglapi. Maybe xorg-server and xorg-drivers, too. >> Otherwise these reports are just going to keep rolling in. (Well, that >> won't stop them, but might slow them down and make it easy to tell people >> where to find the fix.) >> >> I'm still nervous about re-starting X because I may have missed something. >> > > The ports tree still thinks llvm37 is really needed by some of these, and > trying to pkg delete llvm37 wants to also delete many installed > applications. This seems wrong, but I have seen zero information about > this before, so maybe it is not just my system. I'd be willing to update > docs about this, provided someone can clarify just what information needs > to be there. `pkg delete -f llvm37' to just delete that, then an entry in > make.conf to force llvm39? > This is odd. I had llvm34 through llvm39. I only found one dependency when I deleted them, an old version of clang. (Deleted it, too.) this is on a system with full MATE desktop and almost 1500 ports. I'm really curious what might have been showing a run dependency on 37. Did you try re-building them so that they would depend on llvm39? Note: I did not have to do this on my 11-STABLE system which has by far the most ports installed.) -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 03:38:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745BACE1023 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AF8B1233 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1G3cr41013964 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:38:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1G3crex013961; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:38:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:38:53 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Kevin Oberman cc: Koichiro IWAO , FreeBSD Ports ML Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:38:53 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:38:55 -0000 On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Warren Block wrote: > > The ports tree still thinks llvm37 is really needed by some of these, and trying to pkg delete llvm37 wants to also delete many installed applications.  This seems wrong, but I have seen zero information about this before, so maybe it is > not just my system.  I'd be willing to update docs about this, provided someone can clarify just what information needs to be there.  `pkg delete -f llvm37' to just delete that, then an entry in make.conf to force llvm39? > > This is odd. I had llvm34 through llvm39. I only found one dependency when I deleted them, an old version of clang. (Deleted it, too.) this is on a system with full MATE desktop and almost 1500 ports. I'm really curious what might have been showing > a run dependency on 37. Did you try re-building them so that they would depend on llvm39? Note: I did not have to do this on my 11-STABLE system which has by far the most ports installed.) My system was in an interesting state due to testing the experimental xorg from https://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/newxorg.diff I have updated the ports tree and am rebuilding now. I don't know if that diff has been updated to apply to the present ports tree yet. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 03:50:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B881DCE158C for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97EB918B5 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:60443] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 43/4F-02660-68125A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:50:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:50:02 +0000 Message-ID: <43.4F.02660.68125A85@dnvrco-omsmta01> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> <6ded5656-51c7-c60d-8a12-2b2b3c7731ac@ShaneWare.Biz> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.6:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:50:38 -0000 > For every build - > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf > OPTIONS_SET= OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS SIMD PGSQL IPV6 > editors_vim_SET= CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON > You can also get more specific by using - > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/---make.conf > Shane Ambler Is there any way to do this options preconfiguring not using poudriere? One good thing about NetBSD pkgsrc, also Gentoo portage, is being able to set options by package or for all packages in /etc/make.conf or mk.conf . Is there a good way to do this in FreeBSD prior to running synth? I found it very disconcerting to do a massive portupgrade (using portupgrade), going to bed or otherwise away from the computer, and then finding it stopped at a dialog screen. I ran make config-recursive many times, several times on the same port to get what was missed on the first or previous make config-recursive. I am not familiar with the details on planned upgrades to the ports framework and how they will affect usability of portmaster, but remember some users swore by portmanager during the pkg_* days, prior to pkgng. Portmanager could not be made compatible with pkgng and was subsequently dropped from ports/ports-mgmt. Tom From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 04:19:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF82CE1111 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from mail-it0-x230.google.com (mail-it0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F46CA6F for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by mail-it0-x230.google.com with SMTP id x75so12055884itb.0 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:19:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=uTyoO8HmodAOY0W2NFi+5Hv4kq+cNfMKodQ67tGsZkg=; b=Bm0KucQS/R2R/HWesY3jVcplMLwSrlLxdnwPVo0w9HkAgzvMZAjm9ERTHSqNhpb31H 7f1SFNOLSC4wL9ljMpk6ejT3UkyhiXLFdw2e+OIno/tPV4BqUANd0ib4mWmxOilKkQPY VXwbxcANbAUlY8ybTUxPm3g2Xl28f5aZdB1eqluJ9HDJV5ZZFI0P2kXHrYUrjaRKnkxv g2VF4lLihuusm9nSlji6ue7kxFAK3Up0lEeho+Tz+kncPzlY3lxfvvJmoxV2eNcr/bZ3 5VWupvH7iz0GDJFyGWDDS+NlsWJvlsx5rD3DVJC5smfEgesSUbN+SaRnaj2PXJqBj8Ug L34w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uTyoO8HmodAOY0W2NFi+5Hv4kq+cNfMKodQ67tGsZkg=; b=teDPmXmW+8Mzy6d9CWgFbtZE9stR3/Oe/j0ZsNE3zAZoFgsyOA2PrqAI6hfEyHbVo8 5XHPIMKn9F/+QCUiVEEgffLhWaClAN7zF6XR0Ptn2AMniG6HppSy8MNIc9P0Zv8yCDpd eMq5rwlrTOVUBa0/X18BIxGJg8Zb09trUpKhwFhNvI65P0eyvRpEuDAl13tPpN9IvLLV 7JllKzo+YX3Yiu43XkCHHMXlEygLrn/ARTeq+uZfFUk8q4UokJazsLWbvRN1yJpPb26Q LA/yhw9vxZuqG/4f5DgztlfhubyP/YO0bVJRTXTH7Z5qcaTwaMZlS7Esu7UGfqaJC6Ok VKVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lz65PA+MeUP1zjn52E04Y3oAz62PrhqPcpkoe9Cf9LM44JcRPGda0Bo+LTVAwF5xb87wWfoZk2JWdGdQ== X-Received: by 10.107.162.134 with SMTP id l128mr550722ioe.128.1487218773473; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:19:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.52.200 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:19:33 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [115.69.179.135] In-Reply-To: <43.4F.02660.68125A85@dnvrco-omsmta01> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> <6ded5656-51c7-c60d-8a12-2b2b3c7731ac@ShaneWare.Biz> <43.4F.02660.68125A85@dnvrco-omsmta01> From: Jonathan Chen Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:19:33 +1300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:19:34 -0000 On 16 February 2017 at 16:50, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> For every build - >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf > >> OPTIONS_SET= OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS SIMD PGSQL IPV6 >> editors_vim_SET= CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON > >> You can also get more specific by using - > >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/---make.conf > > >> Shane Ambler > > Is there any way to do this options preconfiguring not using poudriere? > > One good thing about NetBSD pkgsrc, also Gentoo portage, is being able to set options by package or for all packages in /etc/make.conf or mk.conf . > > Is there a good way to do this in FreeBSD prior to running synth? You can set up all the port options to use with synth in /usr/local/etc/synth/LiveSystem-make.conf, eg: devel_git_UNSET= CONTRIB CVS GITWEB P4 PERL SEND_EMAIL print_gutenprint_SET=CUPS Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 07:42:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E9DCE153B for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from critical.ch (critical.ch [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c17:de4::1:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "critical.ch", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FB091E2E; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from wiggles.local (dynamic.wline.6rd.res.cust.swisscom.ch [IPv6:2a02:120b:c3f9:2490:dad3:85ff:fe79:dd2] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by critical.ch (8.15.2/8.15.2/critical-1.0) with ESMTPA id v1G7gUY7022272; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:42:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:42:25 +0100 From: Emanuel Haupt To: Koichiro IWAO Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults Message-Id: <20170216084225.a1073bbe2fa3c9e132b8cfbb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:42:36 -0000 Koichiro IWAO wrote: > Konstantin, > > Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! This should probably be mentioned in in ports/UPDATING. Emanuel From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 08:33:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136F0CE1535 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E5D15E2 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 003ABCE1534; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F409ECE1532 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E730415E0 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1G8Xwna089644 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:58 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1G8XwN9089643; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:58 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702160833.v1G8XwN9089643@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:58 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:33:59 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/ports@freebsd.org.html Port | Current version | New version ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ net/jakarta-commons-net | 3.5 | 3.6 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ net-mgmt/mk-livestatus | 1.2.8p15 | 1.2.8p17 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 08:44:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D32CE19C7 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (unknown [IPv6:2602:304:b010:ef20::f2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gw.catspoiler.org", Issuer "gw.catspoiler.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F00E01C9E for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1G8iiRP000405; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702160844.v1G8iiRP000405@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:44:44 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? To: mueller6722@twc.com cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <43.4F.02660.68125A85@dnvrco-omsmta01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:44:52 -0000 On 16 Feb, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> For every build - >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf > >> OPTIONS_SET= OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS SIMD PGSQL IPV6 >> editors_vim_SET= CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON Yeah, I really like this a lot more than going through all the config screens. Back when I used portupgrade, I found that it was too easy to accidentally set some option for a port to a non-default value where it would persist forever. It was also hard to make sure that desired non-default option values were set consistently for all ports. For instance if you want to enable CUPS, you'd have to do it individually for all the ports that have a CUPS option. It was also really tedious going through a bunch of config screens for every portupgrade run because typically there were a bunch of ports that had new options or new default option values. Multiply this by N because I had several different FreeBSD branch and arch combos. The downside is that you won't find out about new and interesting option settings, but with 1000+ ports all the config screens just turned into noise for me. >> You can also get more specific by using - > >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/---make.conf > > >> Shane Ambler > > Is there any way to do this options preconfiguring not using poudriere? > > One good thing about NetBSD pkgsrc, also Gentoo portage, is being able > to set options by package or for all packages in /etc/make.conf or > mk.conf . > > Is there a good way to do this in FreeBSD prior to running synth? > > I found it very disconcerting to do a massive portupgrade (using > portupgrade), going to bed or otherwise away from the computer, and > then finding it stopped at a dialog screen. Yeah, been there and is sucked. My workaround for this was to run "portupgrade -aFc". That gets through all the config screens fairly quickly and also makes sure that all the distfiles are fetchable. The latter avoids the problem of a portupgrade run failing halfway through due to a transient network problem. My portupgrade runs eventually got to be two to three day marathons and it sucked when things went sideways 15 minutes after going to bed due to a build problem with a port or whatever. Then a night's worth of CPU time would be wasted until I could get back to the computer to see what went wrong and start over from scratch. It was especially frustrating if a port failed to build, or the system crashed, or the power failed and I was doing a "portupgrade -rf" run because there was no way to know what ports got rebuilt, so I would have to restart the portupgrade run from scratch. In the meantime the system was stuck in some sort of broken, half-upgraded state. Not having a usable desktop for multiple days was a real problem, which meant that I could only upgrade ports infrequently, when I new in advance that there was nothing that would require me to use the machine. For me, poudriere (in combination with the practice of bumping the PORTREVISION of dependent ports when appropriate) has been a vast improvement. Poudriere on a multicore machine can build multiple ports in parallel, which is a good thing since it defaults to rebuilding all dependencies of any port that is upgraded. If there is a system crash or power failure, it will pick up pretty much where it left off and only the in-progress port builds need to start from scratch, not the entire run. I can also build packages for all of my machines on my biggest and fastest machine instead of trying to compile everything on some of my really old and slow hardware. The pkg upgrade runs on the individual machines only take a few minutes and it is very unlikely that I'll get a machine into some sort of broken and half upgraded state. > I ran make config-recursive many times, several times on the same port > to get what was missed on the first or previous make config-recursive. > > I am not familiar with the details on planned upgrades to the ports > framework and how they will affect usability of portmaster, but > remember some users swore by portmanager during the pkg_* days, prior > to pkgng. > > Portmanager could not be made compatible with pkgng and was > subsequently dropped from ports/ports-mgmt. > > Tom From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 10:30:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7865CE08BD for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (forward2j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4012619E8 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (smtp1m.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:2519::121]) by forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C5E5020F44; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:29:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5EC8763C0E8E; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:29:52 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 4NpsI7HjdX-Tpx8sUdB; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:29:52 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1487240992; bh=mg/6Ow4BG43MelBSEfBOAfqZk4M9TOwrzMoQqTb2Cj0=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=DeqxW3bye3jHocdXgBQ17UEuK7263ZlH/7O64Ln98q4nuKF1M0fYLhAPuM2QqWZqg nqtWwkaNDR4M2CptMgrSKfjMuex9lO5aVUgodMWpfu/jqcJsOE47zyTWpuV3nZoCkY 17MdI9d494hHtL7ritLtzwoo/hiE1dI6xAl0IjzQ= Authentication-Results: smtp1m.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1487240989.87662.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.18.4 segfaults From: Stari Karp To: Kevin Oberman , Warren Block Cc: Koichiro IWAO , FreeBSD Ports ML Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:29:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <0101015a3fb1a17f-dc2012c5-b4b3-47f1-b988-4291c158de72-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <20170215064101.GY2092@kib.kiev.ua> <0101015a40a20d8d-7223736a-ce71-4d31-acb6-b9cbce76e6bb-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> <0101015a40a437cf-7476a87c-1750-4798-a348-548d767cb3df-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:30:07 -0000 On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 19:21 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Warren Block > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Koichiro IWAO > p> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Konstantin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deinstalling llvm37 helped, thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > I actually deinstalled all older versions of llvm, llvm36, > > > > llvm37. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > `whois vmeta.jp | nkf -w` > > > > meta > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it about time to put a note into UPDATING that ALL versions > > > of LLVM > > > older than 3.9 (LLVM39) should be deleted "pkg delete LLVM??" > > > before > > > attempting to build the new Xorg software. I guess that includes > > > libGL, > > > libGLU, libdrm, dri and libglapi. Maybe xorg-server and xorg- > > > drivers, too. > > > Otherwise these reports are just going  to keep rolling in. > > > (Well, that > > > won't stop them, but might slow them down and make it easy to > > > tell people > > > where to find the fix.) > > > > > > I'm still nervous about re-starting X because I may have missed > > > something. > > > > > The ports tree still thinks llvm37 is really needed by some of > > these, and > > trying to pkg delete llvm37 wants to also delete many installed > > applications.  This seems wrong, but I have seen zero information > > about > > this before, so maybe it is not just my system.  I'd be willing to > > update > > docs about this, provided someone can clarify just what information > > needs > > to be there.  `pkg delete -f llvm37' to just delete that, then an > > entry in > > make.conf to force llvm39? > > > This is odd. I had llvm34 through llvm39. I only found one dependency > when > I deleted them, an old version of clang. (Deleted it, too.) this is > on a > system with full MATE desktop and almost 1500 ports. I'm really > curious > what might have been showing a run dependency on 37. Did you try > re-building them so that they would depend on llvm39? Note: I did not > have > to do this on my 11-STABLE system which has by far the most ports > installed.) > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.o > rg" I am using GNOME3 and with remove llvm37 and llvm34 I didn't have problems. But I have still errors with libgl and I did reinstall libGLU, libdrm, dri,libglapi, libEGL and I forgot what more... It is really unusual that is nothing in UPDATING. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 11:09:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6E4CE13ED for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EA31CB1 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1F1F1CE13E8; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECBECE13E7 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D842A1CAE for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id u143so6584621oif.3 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:09:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8oujnyXajl/vQOVwjEuV686rfnU4TpGYTjVWQSCAicw=; b=fixhMqDUv+d7+rt3XlIt059P1dBUDLms5f23Sr900XhSc3xXMJxyYG1uPFBIKM1E8p Fncv71orHLuISonRYYBMzz8gXXZu1eGa79W5xqKHrjtbIUotDbV9FgtaM7Psas8bWVW7 48jMLBg7gVaITH6df9jVa2+7x+FsU/mME6buzzpt7G3/mXq7I1GBKBiS82dlDmbxnhyw VNO2eUUkLwvrllENYEWRcOn+VthJPT1d1NoY6lgbB1d2yLyMV7McLwLSTAXQqEF+xFL8 38R79PMS3JLLEhVsqXtxYFnxSe5FUbJBqMowZwgukOBVh/kw1uMTc1uqeXQLG++yU3cr /2OQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8oujnyXajl/vQOVwjEuV686rfnU4TpGYTjVWQSCAicw=; b=Dfi/6YY7NJPp4UyEIU7vMvkhvgR/Ena6LrUX0sd9nZms6BPO0Gxo5uE/ZE5dv47WTy lZytpekiYX+PhU1ZUrMy53uhSDB3uhlh28on9/9Dm5BelobgSsYNY33Vnh/eoujYLTIM QopHwfOnF66h4YVgGPLy0yGGwGGvqWAzNQDHq5K8VWDpmw9OQlS4u23eu8N+NgzvbZI3 k/vOAVkNRnGzUzchD26Cj+WgMrxpncWZlITdSczoa5X6xng2iFPm6Jt2/lLRqjPRSFJa KhzJRx0aYxIeg++dBITyt8cFhP5O7Dc8xLAH76PEVq3RcUIG3+ccAt3PA1FSGbPW6i0P WvKA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39m3XnYemmjQBeCAsGkevTRIfMbUmP9Hm6DRr7WJ2CRu8CKS+WoZfJoaaBTl9K8EsPkX8IGGeKsvfuyILw== X-Received: by 10.202.244.19 with SMTP id s19mr873705oih.24.1487243352865; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:09:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.153.226 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: Luca Pizzamiglio Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:08:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: The future of portmaster To: ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:09:14 -0000 Hi all, portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. I'm a portmaster user, because, in some cases, it fits my needs. In other cases, I use other tools, like poudriere or synth, that are really great. I don't want to open a discussion here about what it's better, but the truth is, that I use portmaster and it's not maintained. So I decided to spend some time to look at it and to work on it. I forked it and I start some work. The plan is: - remove obsolete features, like the -PP option - remove pkg_* support (even if someone could be against it), forcing the usage of pkg - prepare the support of new features like FLAVORS and subpackages - adding a new ports, called portmaster-devel, for the new version I did a branch on github working of the first two points (https://github.com/pizzamig/portmaster/tree/remove_oldpkg) I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. Thanks in advance Best regards, pizzamig PS: I won't start a port/pkg tool war, my opinion is that the world is big enough to have poudriere, synth, portmaster, portupgrade and whatever tool you will write to handle/build any ports package in the way that you prefer. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 11:20:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE1FCE1978 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 334ED15B8; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E93D6E0081; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:20:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1GBKLkc092401; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:20:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v1GBKLkZ091843; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:20:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:20:21 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Andrea Venturoli , FreeBSD Ports ML , ler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Lynis and lsof Message-ID: <20170216112021.GY25286@e-new.0x20.net> References: <20170215125255.GX25286@e-new.0x20.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4mL5lf+nIvB09VHj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p35 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:20:25 -0000 --4mL5lf+nIvB09VHj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:41:28AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > In that case, a note that lsof should be added to PORTS_MODULES on > /etc/src.conf. lsof uses several undocumented kernel interfaces that are > not stable (as they are not intended for external use). As a result, thin= gs > can break if the kernel is updated without lsof also being updated. >=20 > PORTS_MODULES will take case of this for those who build the kernel from > source. Things get rather messy if you use freebsd-update or packages > though, as the packaging system sees no reason to make a new lsof package. > I have no idea how to properly handle this. I simply always build lsof fr= om > source and lock it so 'pkg upgrade' won't touch it. That's a good idea. The lsof port should have a pkg-message. I cc'ed lsof's maintianer. --4mL5lf+nIvB09VHj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJYpYr1XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1teyEH/AhQHBodFcZ2I5WTwT/BHTTj i2/JpSpLnc66NeCaqg/qS6adBnpQEOoauV4s5nBo4XYutgXRHndwpjndV1lw0/ZP Y+oD+vcT6RBlJR0Wohx3yiD9IStv/gaIxZGY+vIckUxeCiBGAnApRItzwoDs1wPF e4U7mS31VPSGoygDfGEbuaKG/rgGMVP0wf1wzrQAQrAVb+lD05LL8zab5nT+VXN8 0WsRbKyO2M+b0ISAyabkqmk7opPOPNtVXB1yf/6lItmb7a7Vs2jzano7do7N2+we iPhAjrbl13nVgqHZBI+h2R1DzOjiQzkx5CVvGhmsiQSQ4uwL17C+OnbHNcKpe0U= =fkMA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4mL5lf+nIvB09VHj-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 12:12:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7ACCCE02A9 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924B717FC for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 91AA1CE02A8; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91557CE02A6 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [198.144.209.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63F3C17FA for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1GCCrVE073136; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:53 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1GCCrMx073135; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:12:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:12:53 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Luca Pizzamiglio Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Message-ID: <20170216121253.GS1208@albert.catwhisker.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6wTtw7qecL6chBEz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:12:56 -0000 --6wTtw7qecL6chBEz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:08:52PM +0100, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. > ... > So I decided to spend some time to look at it and to work on it. > .... Thank you! (I'll take a look at your work later; I'm in the middle of buildworld & friends now.) Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org How could one possibly "respect" a misogynist, racist, bullying con-man??!? See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --6wTtw7qecL6chBEz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJYpZdFXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRDQ0I3Q0VGOTE3QTgwMUY0MzA2NEQ3N0Ix NTM5Q0M0MEEwNDlFRTE3AAoJEBU5zECgSe4Xs84H+QHa0JRp9FwIEiX+WpM3rDen dyClHpbrsJI5laYCkMxBW5tKjxk2LOKTf072p+pxV2MUGUK3Fj1uln5uXEVwFnko XgDJ6btDX2/cnLdtvEFlH9OqVrVp+Bor/DSktAxMsdabIhYLUci0QcfBDe2BoFEa 3WdGbR9ZBAqZm6V9IwFoLK9m1q1sQySe2NPxz4CdGbFGc/H/qxNKKScWNe4SdUqz 4ZZR5v2o0u0R5kAeqptI7Hag2cfd/lRkMJNQVPypqHulagun6WiF2uyIAI2kKeBb kyJw8ouvLDziOJSGhJPe3PBBgfl8qBxtADQWybeX43qphlC1F2kGBrMYqInaEVg= =iy7w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6wTtw7qecL6chBEz-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 12:58:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDDDCE1203 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9357D1034 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53451] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 64/A0-21189-D31A5A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:55:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceLan-0003kQ-Jh for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:55:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> <5c220e2a-88c9-c79d-75e9-99bac16573fc@jetcafe.org> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:55:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:58:47 -0000 On 02/15/17 21:13, Chris H wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:42:33 -0800 Dave Hayes wrote > >> On 02/14/2017 15:15, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>> On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >>>>> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>>>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >>>>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 >>>>> I think that commit message combined with >>>>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. >>>> The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and >>>> the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top >>>> transparent/detailed to be honest. > Right, would you want an organization >>>> you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? >> >> For reference, the commit message has this text: >> >>> Their behaviour towards their fellow contributors has repeatedly fallen >>> short of what the Project expects of its members. They were given multiple >>> warnings that their interactions with other contributors needed to improve >>> and unfortunately they did not. >> >> Don't you think his name is -already- dragged through the mud by having >> one's commit bit removed with reasons as stated above? >> >> Just curious. :) > > Hello. Is there an *adult* in the room? > c'mon. Am I the only one here that see's this as childish behavior? > I feel like I'm in a classroom in elementary school, and the teacher > just punished one of the students for misbehavior. Or maybe Parents > scolding their bickering kids. > Aghhh! > Don't any of you get it?! You're plowing through thousands of lines > of code. You're anxious, you've got a few hundred pr(1)'s to get > through. The last thing you are right now is "feely". You intend > to get these PR's out, so things can move forward with the ports > tree. Which will really help *everyone*. I've been in this sort > of situation *thousands* of times, myself. The pressure gets to > you. *John* is not the only one here that gets, or ever feels > this way, and any of you who have made *any* real commitments > to the FreeBSD source/ports/$WORK know damn good and well what > I mean here. > > Summary; > This action is a childish outburst by someone, or someone(s) > with the power to pull, or the influence to pull commit bits. > Pure, and simple. > This is NOT how a PROFESSIONAL organization reacts to situations > where quality personnel are involved. > This sort of thing looks REALLY bad in the press! > > Say what you want about me. But I know well, and good that > many, if not most of you reading along, know what I am saying > is at *least* not far off. > > Thank you for your indulgence, and apologies if any of my > language should seem offensive. > After some 30 years on BSD, I feel strongly about it, and this > sort of thing *really* disappoints me. > Could not have said this any better. I user of FreeBSD coming from Linux ( since 1995 ) and having to go thru the systemd fiasco causing me to move to FreeBSD. Do I now need to move to Dragonfly BSD? Or do I need to go back to building and packaging my own version of Linux. This did not impress me at all to say the least. Later.....Looking for options..... From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 13:05:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2757CE1491 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB64B144C for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53460] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id A0/30-03423-153A5A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:04:17 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceLjN-0003l4-1x for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:04:17 -0500 Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:04:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.6:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:05:26 -0000 On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi all, > > portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. > I'm a portmaster user, because, in some cases, it fits my needs. > In other cases, I use other tools, like poudriere or synth, that are > really great. > I don't want to open a discussion here about what it's better, but the > truth is, that I use portmaster and it's not maintained. > So I decided to spend some time to look at it and to work on it. > > I forked it and I start some work. > The plan is: > - remove obsolete features, like the -PP option > - remove pkg_* support (even if someone could be against it), forcing > the usage of pkg > - prepare the support of new features like FLAVORS and subpackages > - adding a new ports, called portmaster-devel, for the new version > > I did a branch on github working of the first two points > (https://github.com/pizzamig/portmaster/tree/remove_oldpkg) > > I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > > Thanks in advance > > Best regards, > pizzamig > > PS: I won't start a port/pkg tool war, my opinion is that the world is > big enough to have poudriere, synth, portmaster, portupgrade and > whatever tool you will write to handle/build any ports package in the > way that you prefer. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my attention From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 13:59:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC66CE05CD for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D6C1CB0 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0535ACE05CC; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DB8CE05CB for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3FB1CAF for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1GDxAer070612 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:59:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1GDxAvM070609; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:59:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:59:10 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Luca Pizzamiglio cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:59:11 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:59:13 -0000 On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi all, > > portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. > I'm a portmaster user, because, in some cases, it fits my needs. > In other cases, I use other tools, like poudriere or synth, that are > really great. > I don't want to open a discussion here about what it's better, but the > truth is, that I use portmaster and it's not maintained. > So I decided to spend some time to look at it and to work on it. > > I forked it and I start some work. > The plan is: > - remove obsolete features, like the -PP option > - remove pkg_* support (even if someone could be against it), forcing > the usage of pkg > - prepare the support of new features like FLAVORS and subpackages > - adding a new ports, called portmaster-devel, for the new version > > I did a branch on github working of the first two points > (https://github.com/pizzamig/portmaster/tree/remove_oldpkg) > > I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. Thank you for working on this. The most recent commit added my patch to save the command to restart the build when an individual port build fails. It shows "portmaster ...". Showing the actual flags given would be useful. A less trivial change would be to show the ports to be built in dependency order rather than sorted. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 14:19:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F17BCE0F70 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49A8C194B; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f] (haymarket.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1GEJOae086758; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Port management tools (was: Status of synth) To: Don Lewis , mueller6722@twc.com References: <201702160844.v1G8iiRP000405@gw.catspoiler.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: George Mitchell Message-ID: <6115a896-7e90-ce22-6355-ed1bb7e02ada@m5p.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201702160844.v1G8iiRP000405@gw.catspoiler.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BxMKA4VDA3erm2tPd2NS4WkHWVUi8vt91" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:31 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:19:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BxMKA4VDA3erm2tPd2NS4WkHWVUi8vt91 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CIiU0P9J6aQ8dK3God8plpJaH2LlPdbKg"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: Don Lewis , mueller6722@twc.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6115a896-7e90-ce22-6355-ed1bb7e02ada@m5p.com> Subject: Port management tools (was: Status of synth) References: <201702160844.v1G8iiRP000405@gw.catspoiler.org> In-Reply-To: <201702160844.v1G8iiRP000405@gw.catspoiler.org> --CIiU0P9J6aQ8dK3God8plpJaH2LlPdbKg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/16/17 03:44, Don Lewis wrote: > On 16 Feb, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> >>> For every build - >>> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf >> =20 >>> OPTIONS_SET=3D OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS SIMD PGSQL IPV6 >>> editors_vim_SET=3D CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON >=20 > Yeah, I really like this a lot more than going through all the config > screens. Back when I used portupgrade, I found that it was too easy to= > accidentally set some option for a port to a non-default value where it= > would persist forever. [...] This is in a nutshell why one group of FreeBSD users love portmaster so much. I switched from portugrade to portmaster a long time ago for this very reason. -- George --CIiU0P9J6aQ8dK3God8plpJaH2LlPdbKg-- --BxMKA4VDA3erm2tPd2NS4WkHWVUi8vt91 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENdM4ZHktsJW5kKZXwRES3m+p4fkFAliltOwACgkQwRES3m+p 4fnDuhAArdE3qvc202tuBE9jfaSHnoUb4B9XMuP7YmKX6U20vKwLGOIav2aEhWyA MzpXUKko+kKROj82HJrVoVAdTS1GyTPPHoHuIlohxjlMamOSXnoe7tTFQ8+bsPWG V54424xlGpNWwz9zprlzGnFGCo/3Djg8cxWLyuK53tRiwQDm84OcWJ8N0qDL1D0w JL5v27wqe47dia2ceMfvXuelJoj/89KklTVDRIxpAEAP+lCIO9n2ePufMZsXl2TP HXW9G5W+zlDCc1DSkNu3ay2pwKn1PQj5//UwOGv9KYAaFn8Hbt8dyP00rQ+0G4uQ s8ugMGUKo74iTnofhvolAeDCMj6vTMd7no+ujbbl2vdys1AMrQX/5my1hvJHwN8D /2ALChTECP0SmihGi8ZwifbLwi26DaYLwJmkGSZ9wHba93uNSblFIPbnyCISf+16 J/71v/wPSunVX1sIt21E5RGwClKFMFO8cL63By4p9hNB6bT9fgt1OrZm22zsqpYe XP+KGAPfQ0ppBTVfG0MTtzKED7/zVqS8nvgom2W5OtuJICZlCpXrw4Q1AteSNG9D bSkYLk2X+KDKiLswKk07Ui9WZ0TJKBHids+3qW9HbZII4OfYLFSQMfudzOqRYeu7 STC2ofBHe3NGLy7XKlFUkFhvk+4ecfXKAZ0rHOp7U+z2gfuHTmE= =+lbB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BxMKA4VDA3erm2tPd2NS4WkHWVUi8vt91-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 14:19:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FD4CE0F8A for ; 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Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: Luca Pizzamiglio , ports@freebsd.org References: From: George Mitchell Message-ID: <07e68b6f-2779-a177-8c7a-14265d9b3d18@m5p.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:26 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tpCP047ODlOMkf0tB001tm0P4DDlNhNMP" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:33 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:19:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --tpCP047ODlOMkf0tB001tm0P4DDlNhNMP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="juAuAMxWaaKA1U1sNa41u2qUS6KlifbJQ"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: Luca Pizzamiglio , ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <07e68b6f-2779-a177-8c7a-14265d9b3d18@m5p.com> Subject: Re: The future of portmaster References: In-Reply-To: --juAuAMxWaaKA1U1sNa41u2qUS6KlifbJQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. > I'm a portmaster user, because, in some cases, it fits my needs. > In other cases, I use other tools, like poudriere or synth, that are > really great. > I don't want to open a discussion here about what it's better, but the > truth is, that I use portmaster and it's not maintained. > So I decided to spend some time to look at it and to work on it. >=20 > I forked it and I start some work. > The plan is: > - remove obsolete features, like the -PP option > - remove pkg_* support (even if someone could be against it), forcing > the usage of pkg > - prepare the support of new features like FLAVORS and subpackages > - adding a new ports, called portmaster-devel, for the new version >=20 > I did a branch on github working of the first two points > (https://github.com/pizzamig/portmaster/tree/remove_oldpkg) >=20 > I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >=20 > Thanks in advance >=20 > Best regards, > pizzamig > [...] Thank you! poudriere regularly runs out of resources on my ten year old machine, and I've been disinclined to try synth so far (though I guess it may come to that soon). Up to now, portmaster has worked fine for me (bearing in mind I have a machine dedicated to ports building and the world doesn't end if I break it and have to clean up and start over again on occasion). -- George --juAuAMxWaaKA1U1sNa41u2qUS6KlifbJQ-- --tpCP047ODlOMkf0tB001tm0P4DDlNhNMP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENdM4ZHktsJW5kKZXwRES3m+p4fkFAliltO8ACgkQwRES3m+p 4flclA/+OywRIF1m3bcq4/rgm/elh+9hmfcVpdOVJI6KLP+0AEZyaLmBYTm8C9y7 QP2bPZ1IjpGMrzRYOqwaCsTPhnWxZqRjr76HmlODrlmDFXa+/Zj4nvFNKBPCbhYc Fw5ZUM7i3Z3tpgx5v8kEViWQVDq6h2HdjaBoLUzrCnEh0fNxWzO3bsiFgBG4DMwF vHh2iHAPjP/lzfJ6TlFkAs6A26Qy+dwf3scL240jDvHpLG6PGTOyy8LEIJgfX6f9 5YbrXJhLur2mpOQLN/aNy6tzizD0+CNTXFff2CenjkOVZQ/3Q2w70V3QQdtZimIl TDW+03Hys6XC1jziAokMvaojfoWRDnN8HftEtzUQFDQXyEAUd+0gFDNIUv9Eute/ ows8VqYhj0eLGSrfuEIHqtjnKB/P2837iQBuSr3K+IetdvNWPei/PTvAUdx2r2tn KBOudXMU7o+tbHPb2oPJmtRlciNzQEN6e4JasryjCX8mmZal5iRgbDub7kFAp+8D xQEbfVj3HNxK/g3H5cRYBKtya4n3wM5T8njavXOx+noLpRkVJ4uPkuRROyoraT7t yqVSgbHO/RaA4rrnx6rgXRkKQo6SbmRuFPxOrQQ+MIOxl517fYpzDQgjvIxj1P4Y 2J+yjj8gMP6yULWw5GwmRBrLDjKCdd92iCmfTWrY3MoUKL2hwsE= =Zr2V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tpCP047ODlOMkf0tB001tm0P4DDlNhNMP-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 15:09:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32393CE12BA for ; 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amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:10 -0000 On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:24 -0500 George Mitchell wrote: > > Yeah, I really like this a lot more than going through all the > > config screens. Back when I used portupgrade, I found that it was > > too easy to accidentally set some option for a port to a > > non-default value where it would persist forever. [...] > > This is in a nutshell why one group of FreeBSD users love portmaster > so much. I switched from portugrade to portmaster a long time ago > for this very reason. Do you mean because you didn't want to type "-c"? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 16:11:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F40CE2CB9 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francesco.scaglione@sfr.fr) Received: from smtp26.services.sfr.fr (smtp26.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5FA81B1C for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francesco.scaglione@sfr.fr) Received: from biblioteca (production-radiop.rain.fr [194.206.179.1]) by msfrf2631.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 54D851C001805 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:01:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from biblioteca (production-radiop.rain.fr [194.206.179.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: scaglione.francesco@neuf.fr) by msfrf2631.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTPSA for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:01:36 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: sfr.fr; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=scaglione.francesco@neuf.fr Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:01:30 +0100 From: francesco scaglione To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? Message-ID: <20170216170130.36c06c64@biblioteca> In-Reply-To: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-sfr-mailing: LEGIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:11:01 -0000 On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:15:31 -0800 Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > >> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery > >> wrote: > >>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 > >> I think that commit message combined with > >> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. > > The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often > > and the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top > > transparent/detailed to be honest. > > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? I don't think it's our place > (the project) to say more than we already have publicly. Please drop > this before it gets out of hand. Discussing people > personally/negatively in a public forum is not appropriate. I've read hundreds of texts by John Marino in the FreeBSD mailing lists and on the forum, always learning a great amount of things, and always enjoying his tone (which I've never ever felt to be too aggressive to anyone) for its being so enthusiastic. Once I even had a question that I considered too stupid to deserve the attention of the mailing lists and I decided to ask him directly: he answered to my mail in half an hour, with the patience that a newbie very seldom gets. Now, something very serious must have happened - I'm not pretending to know - but if what you mean by "already have [said] publicly" is this: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 I don't think that that is enough, really, to dissipate the very strong impression that many of us are feeling that the project has just shoot itself in the foot in an incredibly stupid way. Thank you for your attention, -- Francesco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 17:24:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C885CE1C22 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3CE1BBA for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6AA04CE1C21; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A491CE1C20 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FAD11BB9 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5191322A; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:24:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:24:39 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Luca Pizzamiglio Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Message-ID: <20170216172438.GA3203@lonesome.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:43 -0000 I am glad to see that someone is taking on the work. Thanks. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 18:43:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E57CE2EF1 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBB0E13DC for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1GIgx0S043405 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1GIgw7L043402; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:58 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Dave Horsfall cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Question on upgrading ports after 9.3->10.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:59 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:43:01 -0000 On Sun, 12 Feb 2017, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Me again :-) I finally got around to following the notes that David > Wolfskill kindly provided (thanks!) and apart from some oddity about > "httpd" requiring a missing "libdb-4.2.so.2" (which will get rebuilt > anyway), I'm a bit wary of this: > > 7. Back up any files in /usr/local that you wish to save [...] > 8. Manually check /usr/local [...] to make sure that they are really > empty. > > Errm, why? Is it going to clean out /usr/local from under my feet? If > so, then that's a bit rude... Because of disk space limitations, I've got > /usr/ports -> /usr/local/ports (/usr/local is a separate file system). > And then there's all my private stuff... I think it means "save any local > configuration files etc"; if so, it could be better phrased. Presumably, the idea is to start from a blank slate. No, portmaster does not delete those directories. > PS: For those who also have a Mac, do *not* futz around with symlinks in > this manner, as it confuses the hell out of macports... It can be a problem on FreeBSD also. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 19:07:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15039CE06A4 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75A31227 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E8633C1E; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CC5FD39829; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Baho Utot Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:01:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> (Baho Utot's message of "Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:04:16 -0500") Message-ID: <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:07:40 -0000 Baho Utot writes: > On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > > If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my > attention What kind of special support? I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen minutes to set up. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 20:33:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4D9CE2412 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05F561F14 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53678] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 79/00-21189-89C06A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:33:29 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSk4-0003ug-L1 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:33:28 -0500 Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:33:28 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:33:37 -0000 On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Baho Utot writes: > >> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >> >> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my >> attention > > What kind of special support? > > I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and > aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen > minutes to set up. > Using chroot or jails to build each individual package From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 20:40:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35D9CE2682 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E11F14AF for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f] (haymarket.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1GKehVH090211 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:40:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> From: George Mitchell Message-ID: <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:40:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jGeMMIxMtEKVUxQ4XWGwg7J9CUGnIL0Ng" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:40:49 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:40:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --jGeMMIxMtEKVUxQ4XWGwg7J9CUGnIL0Ng Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RN3QAEicpgqWxSDtB05fsxtJJ5qpfFloj"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> Subject: Re: The future of portmaster References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> --RN3QAEicpgqWxSDtB05fsxtJJ5qpfFloj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Baho Utot writes: >> >>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >>> >>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my= >>> attention >> >> What kind of special support? >> >> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and= >> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >> minutes to set up. >> >=20 > Using chroot or jails to build each individual package > [...] While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George --RN3QAEicpgqWxSDtB05fsxtJJ5qpfFloj-- --jGeMMIxMtEKVUxQ4XWGwg7J9CUGnIL0Ng Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENdM4ZHktsJW5kKZXwRES3m+p4fkFAlimDksACgkQwRES3m+p 4fkmLxAAi6xEjMqAXDArLyYIVoFVGdGZU5cCfsWqr5Hy+WNCItKPCjtttihQSziO M71YVxmnFo8KomXWbkWH7S40/a8bBppLwSPsbBgD5K4IGGK77z/4VgjMwt9BpxiR VdeZiShC/jVABENHqAiaaI380jMWCcRwFpU9qNFZdRVzYkQ4WI3+wU78XmMK5JYf 6HOWFsbrWVtrCwzH2tCuDrMBYwo4jyMH3SX5e4CCVPWq8aYUqGX2k44ALN2mUwcA ev2dhfdUb78w0uGuOTTmrOYyCY6s+Z2qFk6OqVWrftryJk4r7SA1XJYn1PHX/+vw wwZlhcfOW19KTqpCJrGd8CwTh1XYOKV9opDvlFwJGVIQKJSWrNAfh1lcanEvnCDf mNdLjmc8vnfghsO21IIuviB+O6FNtzdTS1f6r5rY05ch+9BjktefjAfCO0p2fQSX vmlXCUs20vxrRBWKE51REzvjWydDMizTA1V+ENecaw8f5yssTiy1+VgwLLBb4Sa/ X2/RGCLbGC8z1Iw5MrI2Wuk71s4gJczxTmtUZsPaYVEunPYES3NjlRsCKTdKgHiz mOr0Kvrr9K5tm5V/5G7JhFlmraoDXP/LQ0V0HVi0P4CSTVc2izZcYqELICYvoZWN FJYVn8nEzHrgvGK/lQ/pcTw604CSHOMADoPkD/fX0YZ9vATjF6U= =m+aw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jGeMMIxMtEKVUxQ4XWGwg7J9CUGnIL0Ng-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 20:50:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F9DCE2B2C for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEC561F49 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53686] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id B7/00-16480-A3016A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:48:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSz3-0003vA-R5 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.7:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:50:13 -0000 On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: > On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> >> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> Baho Utot writes: >>> >>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >>>> >>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my >>>> attention >>> >>> What kind of special support? >>> >>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and >>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >>> minutes to set up. >>> >> >> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package >> [...] > > While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional > feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use > of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George > > Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:21:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB1CCE2472 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daryl@isletech.net) Received: from mail.isletech.net (mail.isletech.net [IPv6:2001:470:1d:c44::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC16D125D for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daryl@isletech.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isletech.net; s=isle2017; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SAMkYgpfDJOJF08z0ygRy4aTq2SFKrnZYJWAZ4gjonw=; b=Qau2GR6fBjN7hfhrwmFeTnLefO DRcQI8tIzpTocm3z2fzJYZR954KFYIueALleq1/mhy6oqkZb0EVug1A0yitDafDNaPH8pqQNJAe8e cA7Q4QiWTo2qunqYJ4l2qkwF10aXPOsOptsN5wLB/MgvloxGAviQdMhxJ+TE2pLWBfpQdIPriE/gQ +fA6iQyDTROFaCeCVBWuIMZO2LQPvdMqSfMU/bZJQuS5J+kWpj+MtSnlk6loIDIzsSq3j7tCAWvZF 9cymuVtKQYl4spC6VWGc0HWK89Y+OEVwIHZmFctEwqHsvNtkTKOXZ01DDS1QV/CM7y0EhyOcuC8Aj sSA+/2Pg==; Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> From: Daryl Richards Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:21:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:06 -0000 >> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >> >> > > Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. For those of use who have a half-dozen machines, all with differing options, having a central build machine doesn't make a lot of sense. Have a tool like portmaster, for ease of local building and upgrading of ports, is very useful. Just my 2c worth. I'm glad to see people believing there is still a place for a tool like this. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:21:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B862CE249F for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEC4F131C for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v1GLLvqv094726 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com>, <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:22:03 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:22 -0000 On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot wrote > On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: > > On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>> Baho Utot writes: > >>> > >>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > >>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > >>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > >>>> > >>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my > >>>> attention > >>> > >>> What kind of special support? > >>> > >>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and > >>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen > >>> minutes to set up. > >>> > >> > >> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package > >> [...] > > > > While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional > > feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use > > of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George > > > > > > Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) HTH --Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:33:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D4ACE28A6 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nschwqsrv02p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwqsrv02p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 284911B21 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nschwcmgw08p ([61.9.190.168]) by nschwmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20170216213219.NKCW29733.nschwmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw08p> for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:32:19 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([110.141.193.233]) by nschwcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id lZYJ1u00352cND201ZYJih; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:32:19 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Oc5ldUnY c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=m5fWvMo-6B22K6Ag4_UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1GLWHYI015300 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:32:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1GLWHXp015297 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:32:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:32:17 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Do I need /var/db/portsnap/distfiles and /usr/port/distfiles? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:33:07 -0000 There is only the one FreeBSD box in my stable, hence I don't need to build packages for others. It's a somewhat minimalist box (all I can afford), and I'd like to recover some space. Can I just delete their contents? aneurin# du -sk /usr/ports/distfiles /var/db/portsnap/files 965198 /usr/ports/distfiles 106594 /var/db/portsnap/files It will claw me back about 1GB, which for me is a big deal... -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:37:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B45CE29F3 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB5B61D2A for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53708] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 6D/57-16480-95B16A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:36:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceTiy-0003w8-OH for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:36:24 -0500 Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:36:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.7:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:37:35 -0000 On 02/16/17 16:22, Chris H wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot wrote > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>>> Baho Utot writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my >>>>>> attention >>>>> >>>>> What kind of special support? >>>>> >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >>>>> minutes to set up. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package >>>> [...] >>> >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >>> >>> >> >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > Hello. Having portmaster do that ( automatically/or by default ) is better as in I wont have to do that just run the damn tool with a list of packages. Just like synth does. Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:44:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300C7CE2E9B for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038C114C0 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id ED13DCE2E9A; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8A0CE2E99 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 801E314AC for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id r141so25030456wmg.1 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:44:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xFtoLUhiI3eAUofKfAvvYiQQbSyUd9ayoZD+e7n7E1Q=; b=GA95xh9kjwf1aXVWyn1uvChR35Vs6dQ/bhjbNWyf/kzaWz+htCIqFq+kkOKbZXYl9D kgDuNDE/fs+EvWul0DsISKcu2oBwveMQWK+F75G7Og+JE7BIHaOgDh4klVCWhbyRs6Q8 xYni5PZ/VxSGdwja+ZffGOKJdiqWMt/BA+/+Ksuazr86uTa/9TSidQAlEPAjtF9wmiJl vvrGNPjomHbtwSQ9RHcXe4xI2R6IS1GatMAi8bGlm4qpt7P06p6O/TnAw+rO/vN9lXnO OIy7SoRL4kyHbK++//jPURo6arkw06qm+THxPDHSj6Lbp8COAZYzrnJQuf9Od5sR02rQ 65Tg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xFtoLUhiI3eAUofKfAvvYiQQbSyUd9ayoZD+e7n7E1Q=; b=NtErBUg10vnKvGfsqlU9d1D/XlVQ+ZuwigEEIilQtMp/ts/EbDFg/DdjnJdrdV3Qwv TuEpBsZlST77MGXPIX0Q8vRtGTnUE8VotcMB356Dcu88+IJB94jX2UF3FMhfc0pf9d32 oDYPqDZN/UV6VsxtzYqP2/AY5kXVo49IbVW6NsTB9iCK2Y0Nu0kj8g6X6ua9EYqzwPdL pPrlSeHP762mj8RS5EhB1tf6Qlctyg8B9bLK81+TwMm5QnohcSviMgLiC6qZeJiPbthY hwG4UQhw9CGCpoOtuiLojzDBKRrdFlyT7eufx+FzZV1VzZw3qOjBf+h05N0GNcTJyrCB WbEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39ll5eAx8yFt6eqJHbS8ESyQT+AklgARi30FAgYMv5yfns+1pLbP5chyKM60aJvimw== X-Received: by 10.28.232.90 with SMTP id f87mr13808765wmh.35.1487281439366; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([94.5.114.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v96sm6134474wrc.45.2017.02.16.13.43.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:43:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:43:56 +0000 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I need /var/db/portsnap/distfiles and /usr/port/distfiles? Message-ID: <20170216214356.7c975639@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:44:02 -0000 On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:32:17 +1100 (EST) Dave Horsfall wrote: > There is only the one FreeBSD box in my stable, hence I don't need to > build packages for others. It's to to do with whether you use ports, rather than if you build package for other boxes. > It's a somewhat minimalist box (all I can > afford), and I'd like to recover some space. Can I just delete their > contents? > > aneurin# du -sk /usr/ports/distfiles /var/db/portsnap/files > 965198 /usr/ports/distfiles This is a cache, so you can delete it, or trim it with distclean (installed with portupgrade), or portmaster. > 106594 /var/db/portsnap/files If you don't use portsnap then you can delete everything under /var/db/portsnap. Don't delete these files if you do. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:45:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD53CE2F2D for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2088A15EE for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v1GLjnUT098086 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net>, From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:45:55 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:45:13 -0000 On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:36:24 -0500 Baho Utot wrote > On 02/16/17 16:22, Chris H wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot > > wrote > > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: > >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> Baho Utot writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my > >>>>>> attention > >>>>> > >>>>> What kind of special support? > >>>>> > >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and > >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen > >>>>> minutes to set up. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package > >>>> [...] > >>> > >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional > >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use > >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > > > > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > > > > Hello. Having portmaster do that ( automatically/or by default ) is > better as in I wont have to do that just run the damn tool with a list > of packages. Just like synth does. Oh no I am now banned as I use > synth, whoa is me. Heh. Actually I usually use *traditional* jails to make my repo's. But when I don't, I *too* prefer synth. Nothing political. I just like it better -- it's faster, and less fuss. --Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:48:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E322CE2001 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2C1E16FC for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73A2D162; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:33 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Baho Utot Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Message-ID: <20170216214833.GC4404@lonesome.com> References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:48:37 -0000 On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: > Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. This is overstating the matter. May we restrict ourselves to the technical problems/features of the various port maintainence tools, please? :-/ mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 22:04:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC20CE2A04 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E59824B6 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53725] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 1C/A3-16480-7D126A85; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:04:07 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceU9n-0003xK-7e; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:04:07 -0500 Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: Mark Linimon References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <20170216214833.GC4404@lonesome.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Baho Utot Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:04:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170216214833.GC4404@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.7:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:04:09 -0000 On 02/16/17 16:48, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: >> Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. > > This is overstating the matter. > > May we restrict ourselves to the technical problems/features of the > various port maintainence tools, please? :-/ > See I knew it, the police are out in force....You'ns got John and now it looks like I am going to have to go on the run..... 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[92.111.79.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id b8sm10704648wrb.17.2017.02.16.14.49.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:49:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: Baho Utot References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <20170216214833.GC4404@lonesome.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Johan Hendriks Message-ID: <3097cfb1-eae1-b5c7-2210-8dcbe39a8aaa@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:49:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:49:53 -0000 Op 16/02/2017 om 23:04 schreef Baho Utot: > > > On 02/16/17 16:48, Mark Linimon wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: >>> Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. >> >> This is overstating the matter. >> >> May we restrict ourselves to the technical problems/features of the >> various port maintainence tools, please? :-/ >> > > See I knew it, the police are out in force....You'ns got John and now > it looks like I am going to have to go on the run..... No need to run, no police, just talk about portmaster and tell what can be done to make it better. The thread is named The future of portmaster after all. If synth is better, maybe someone will get an idea for portmaster so that it can learn from the synth way of doing things. No need to let the marino issue come back in every thread on the mailing lists. I think that everybody by now knows what is going on and the people involved feel bad enough about the whole situation already. I hope they can settle things in a way that is in the best intrest for FreeBSD and DragonFlyBSD. Nice to see some work is done on portmaster. Thank you all for that. regards Johan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 23:21:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4E3CE21B3 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (forward1h.cmail.yandex.net [87.250.230.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 470B71BD9 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.28]) by forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C106520D93; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 02:21:01 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 27FC32940DAE; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 02:21:00 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Xie4GJm92j-KxOGPHKS; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 02:21:00 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1487287260; bh=tLdSI0IhdYJzpVu0uvh1ux1Bgi4U7yLx0nUHy25wIP0=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=gFxMgV88AcpZidxVWoiOHY5KjYEt76za5l8JDodKOItb9chT7eFH4orTn4CtpjB8h LZ6copzozFVJVkgL6Ktih+F9A0PAc4nozitfIhhcK00xsHWFuIjU4eG0rUdTN5z+v9 aUaFBvhRkcEGkGyFZse1vwCXSBRN/CdaGKHCl7lI= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1487287257.89234.4.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? From: Stari Karp To: francesco scaglione , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:20:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20170216170130.36c06c64@biblioteca> References: <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> <20170216170130.36c06c64@biblioteca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:21:11 -0000 On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 17:01 +0100, francesco scaglione wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:15:31 -0800 > Bryan Drewery wrote: > > > > > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery > > > > wrote:   > > > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > > > > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=43382 > > > > > 7   > > > > I think that commit message combined with > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is > > > > enough.   > > > The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too > > > often > > > and the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top > > > transparent/detailed to be honest.   > > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag > > your > > name through the mud for some reason?  I don't think it's our place > > (the project) to say more than we already have publicly.  Please > > drop > > this before it gets out of hand.  Discussing people > > personally/negatively in a public forum is not appropriate. > I've read hundreds of texts by John Marino in the FreeBSD mailing > lists > and on the forum, always learning a great amount of things, and > always > enjoying his tone (which I've never ever felt to be too aggressive to > anyone) for its being so enthusiastic. > > Once I even had a question that I considered too stupid to deserve > the > attention of the mailing lists and I decided to ask him directly: he > answered to my mail in half an hour, with the patience that a newbie > very seldom gets. > > Now, something very serious must have happened - I'm not pretending > to > know - but if what you mean by "already have [said] publicly" is > this: > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 > > I don't think that that is enough, really, to dissipate the very > strong > impression that many of us are feeling that the project has just > shoot > itself in the foot in an incredibly stupid way. > > Thank you for your attention, I am also very thankful to John Marino. I don't know him but after long time portmaster user I try to use a Synth when it came to FreeBSD and I had a problems but in my long experience from OS/2 to Freebsd I never had so good help as I had from J. Marino and I love his Synth too.  Thank you, Mr. Marino.   From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 23:22:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0D5CE235E for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63AC1ECB for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntcmgw08p ([61.9.169.168]) by nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20170216230108.TOGD23100.nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p> for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:01:08 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([110.141.193.233]) by nskntcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id lb181u00452cND201b18dE; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:01:08 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=DL5ymH5b c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=fyTshuHaSnpDnWQ30hQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1GN17VE015573 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:01:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v1GN17ng015570 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:01:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:01:07 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Do I need /var/db/portsnap/distfiles and /usr/port/distfiles? In-Reply-To: <20170216214356.7c975639@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <20170216214356.7c975639@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 23:22:56 -0000 On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: > > aneurin# du -sk /usr/ports/distfiles /var/db/portsnap/files > > 965198 /usr/ports/distfiles > > This is a cache, so you can delete it, or trim it with distclean > (installed with portupgrade), or portmaster. Thanks; nearly 1GB here I come... > > 106594 /var/db/portsnap/files > > If you don't use portsnap then you can delete everything under > /var/db/portsnap. Don't delete these files if you do. Yes, I do use portsnap, so thanks for the advice. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 00:26:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5968CCE15A5 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 00:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DBCB1A34 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 00:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:53789] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 33/99-21189-44346A85; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 00:26:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=desktop.example.org) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ceWNo-00040R-Hv for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:26:44 -0500 Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <20170216214833.GC4404@lonesome.com> <3097cfb1-eae1-b5c7-2210-8dcbe39a8aaa@gmail.com> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <872ac28e-c8ae-cb32-7297-4fdf79589cb3@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:26:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3097cfb1-eae1-b5c7-2210-8dcbe39a8aaa@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 00:26:47 -0000 On 02/16/17 17:49, Johan Hendriks wrote: > > > Op 16/02/2017 om 23:04 schreef Baho Utot: >> >> >> On 02/16/17 16:48, Mark Linimon wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: >>>> Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. >>> >>> This is overstating the matter. >>> >>> May we restrict ourselves to the technical problems/features of the >>> various port maintainence tools, please? :-/ >>> >> >> See I knew it, the police are out in force....You'ns got John and now >> it looks like I am going to have to go on the run..... > No need to run, no police, just talk about portmaster and tell what can > be done to make it better. The thread is named The future of portmaster > after all. One can never be too sure, Oh wait is see some men in black coming my way now. Got to run. Don't tell them I have been here so, I have some time to getway. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 07:28:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A5DCE2973 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5489C1DFE for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 53F5CCE2970; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EDBCE296F for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 453B41DFD for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1H7SAOj057896 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1H7SA0v057895; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702170728.v1H7SA0v057895@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:28:10 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. 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From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 07:37:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AE8CE2F49 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from mail.abinet.ru (mail.abinet.ru [136.243.72.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079EE1489 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from sphinx.abinet.ru (unknown [192.168.2.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.abinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E4C63CCE1; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abinet.ru; s=dkim; t=1487317051; bh=w9u/aE1S643oS9KE7z2p4G9fQHcx0Gzf2gny3vjnqiw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Hs91pouHZjHyfHMv/9zcZj1AYQtef+aBXX6Ojafjm5zTYkwT6tK+N5uQmyfb+C+PB MJcTXwY8VdNZNTWTcXYV7nhot8HLY2Id/l8BdlASluNKgEF1jwwSAfkP1H3m9XBjS5 3lJjWPpxRPueO/RsYoHnyKF+Z33ZhVg5+cRalKKg= Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: Chris H , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> From: abi Message-ID: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5000] * 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid * 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on postfix.abinet.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:38 -0000 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H пишет: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot wrote > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >>>> >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>>> Baho Utot writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my >>>>>> attention >>>>> What kind of special support? >>>>> >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >>>>> minutes to set up. >>>>> >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package >>>> [...] >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >>> >>> >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 08:25:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BD4CE048E for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26AA01F02 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Received: from yggdrasil.alkumuna.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8a74:6e70:232:36ff:fe5c:3a87]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1FCB0054B; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:25:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from freedom.alkumuna.eu ([IPv6:2a01:e35:8a74:6e70:62a4:4cff:fe54:b212]) (authenticated bits=0) by yggdrasil.alkumuna.eu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v1H8PLQQ068814 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:25:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:25:16 +0100 From: Matthieu Volat To: abi Cc: Chris H , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Message-ID: <20170217092516.2b4ba57d@freedom.alkumuna.eu> In-Reply-To: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/g_cg995qlgTypDbEfYuD=Nu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alkumuna.eu; s=default; t=1487319925; bh=kp1bWLAHHgFRKAI87VM/zH1d13tzIi92zUQkNivMxDA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cvupTB8BjuShLltzFMnhmrV2gGJ2ff4rd7fp++0VirMkThc7mWRws2BvDKW4uGGl+AUu4hzbyBK7veP/9fE4hTgeJYXmtlazJmKIVvMYzioTjUOpJ6U32Uxg8BnR5gpvTrR4QoFVQaHgZ8YrcCRcBzg8ZT9cgS4q+ML82JFD+Lk= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:25:41 -0000 --Sig_/g_cg995qlgTypDbEfYuD=Nu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 abi wrote: > 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot wrote > > > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: > >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> Baho Utot writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get= my > >>>>>> attention > >>>>> What kind of special support? > >>>>> > >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, = and > >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen > >>>>> minutes to set up. > >>>>> > >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package > >>>> [...] > >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional > >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use > >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George > >>> > >>> > >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > > > From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and=20 > it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. Just dropping privileges to a dedicated user for building would be a big st= ep, but that's more a port feature (openbsd's ports do that, if I'm not wro= ng). --=20 Matthieu Volat --Sig_/g_cg995qlgTypDbEfYuD=Nu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTxuiqPSkQnzRDOjsP4Q0N5gpmLfgUCWKazbAAKCRD4Q0N5gpmL fu/nAKCsoZEweB2k/cu4F7FLeY/PU3jZJgCeNs8ED0ftDQp7ljcyG2w2o9Lh4P4= =eIxf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/g_cg995qlgTypDbEfYuD=Nu-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 10:05:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC46CE26E2 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from smtp.rlwinm.de (smtp.rlwinm.de [148.251.233.239]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4FF5110E for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from crest.local (unknown [87.253.189.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.rlwinm.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCDC1F93A for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:05:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> <20170217092516.2b4ba57d@freedom.alkumuna.eu> From: Jan Bramkamp Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:05:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170217092516.2b4ba57d@freedom.alkumuna.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:05:26 -0000 On 17/02/2017 09:25, Matthieu Volat wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 > abi wrote: > >> 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H пишет: >>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot wrote >>> >>>> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: >>>>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>>>>> Baho Utot writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>>>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >>>>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my >>>>>>>> attention >>>>>>> What kind of special support? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and >>>>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >>>>>>> minutes to set up. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package >>>>>> [...] >>>>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >>>>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >>>>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package >>>> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on >>>> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot >>>> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not >>>> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. >>> Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal >>> by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). >>> portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has >>> everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) >>> >> From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and >> it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. > > Just dropping privileges to a dedicated user for building would be a big step, but that's more a port feature (openbsd's ports do that, if I'm not wrong). Yes dropping privileges would be a good *additional* step. The purpose of the jail/chroot isn't just for security. The real goal is to provide a reproducible, clean build environment. Lots of broken configure scripts out there include a lot of autodetection magic. And suddenly your binaries are link against additional libraries which are unknown to pkg. This becomes even funnier if your application uses fork+exec per connection. Suddenly you're left with a bound socket but each connection dies because the worker fails to link at runtime. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me. An other problem with portmaster is that it creates inconsistent during the upgrade by design. Of course pkg upgrade isn't atomic either but the time window is on the order of a few seconds instead of minutes to hours and is far less likely fail halfway through. 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micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="g5cclsbepc3xqrov" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170206 (1.7.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:49:03 -0000 --g5cclsbepc3xqrov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:08:52PM +0100, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. > I'm a portmaster user, because, in some cases, it fits my needs. > In other cases, I use other tools, like poudriere or synth, that are > really great. > I don't want to open a discussion here about what it's better, but the > truth is, that I use portmaster and it's not maintained. > So I decided to spend some time to look at it and to work on it. >=20 > I forked it and I start some work. > The plan is: > - remove obsolete features, like the -PP option > - remove pkg_* support (even if someone could be against it), forcing > the usage of pkg > - prepare the support of new features like FLAVORS and subpackages > - adding a new ports, called portmaster-devel, for the new version >=20 > I did a branch on github working of the first two points > (https://github.com/pizzamig/portmaster/tree/remove_oldpkg) >=20 > I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >=20 > Thanks in advance >=20 > Best regards, > pizzamig >=20 > PS: I won't start a port/pkg tool war, my opinion is that the world is > big enough to have poudriere, synth, portmaster, portupgrade and > whatever tool you will write to handle/build any ports package in the > way that you prefer. Glad to see someone will to work on it. On your work please make sure the minimize the dependency on origin being a unique identifier. We are working on having subpackages, flavors which means multiple packages would have the same origin. If we want to keep portmaster working it has to grow the knowledge of multi= ple packages can have the same origin. 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To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> <6ded5656-51c7-c60d-8a12-2b2b3c7731ac@ShaneWare.Biz> <43.4F.02660.68125A85@dnvrco-omsmta01> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <13370918-0025-9c15-1d91-edf31800bec0@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:48:56 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <43.4F.02660.68125A85@dnvrco-omsmta01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:24:10 -0000 On 16/02/2017 14:20, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> For every build - /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf > >> OPTIONS_SET= OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS SIMD PGSQL IPV6 editors_vim_SET= >> CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON > >> You can also get more specific by using - > >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/--make.conf >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/---make.conf > > >> Shane Ambler > > Is there any way to do this options preconfiguring not using > poudriere? > > One good thing about NetBSD pkgsrc, also Gentoo portage, is being > able to set options by package or for all packages in /etc/make.conf > or mk.conf . > > Is there a good way to do this in FreeBSD prior to running synth? > Any options you setup for poudriere work just the same when placed in /etc/make.conf - poudriere copies the above files into /etc/make.conf in the build environment. You can define BATCH in your make.conf to stop config dialogs - poudriere adds BATCH=yes to the make.conf of each build jail. synth also has it's own files in /usr/local/etc/synth that it will use. See man synth -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 13:33:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D6FCE2C4A for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51AB61F0D for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f] (haymarket.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1HDXMRb096569 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:33:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> From: George Mitchell Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:33:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QxTsauF5lU6CIaTo1JARPhDfgiuRTSNku" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]); Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:33:28 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:33:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QxTsauF5lU6CIaTo1JARPhDfgiuRTSNku Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8xJ2SIR91FEqt8hhXvqUpx3Dbdi3icvr6"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: The future of portmaster References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> In-Reply-To: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> --8xJ2SIR91FEqt8hhXvqUpx3Dbdi3icvr6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/17/17 02:37, abi wrote: > 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot >> wrote >> >>> [...] >> Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal >> by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8).= >> portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has >> everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) >> > From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and > it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. >=20 Some of us might even consider chroot overkill. I'm fine with a chroot option, but let's not turn portmaster into something that unconditionally requires more resources than the underlying build needs. -- George --8xJ2SIR91FEqt8hhXvqUpx3Dbdi3icvr6-- --QxTsauF5lU6CIaTo1JARPhDfgiuRTSNku Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENdM4ZHktsJW5kKZXwRES3m+p4fkFAlim+6IACgkQwRES3m+p 4fnTOA/7BCuykWEj3Z7vx2zY96LK10mNm9glX1ktqAMEd7hGSmjsViIjyvSODYrL lyj/2Zdh5mzimh1TwPXMygBhqWXSKVmugf0FWh/prWKiaLm2TJT+s2kxQtu4iXt2 H744JRKdhisTe6kjqvSn0DV7gnv34ZDoggD6CBWN5cvj5blTLhO8PKFdDhII6RIA RI/VHwHZN67F0CE59Wq6u5nx/RNuvrPr8wjWW3FmFlMOAug/NUOo1CfvJyjtCvAd z5CSJV+HFC7Kc8GvG/7keqTSLwwnYJf07oaHwRBTS0g7mOX+gdiGfkHk/vZsQWgE 4VtJmc3NfXuATCYtfDN+3g6vWX3SjaAtAxJCU3R3WKLwmB6fjCiFyHcBi7wsUjfN TMeznlGB92nGgKtbEWc4VeSqN1f3uXVmFKFUD2FdqA7pK0b/WE7dRYvMotGXgPQE VVt29+Oqm7IWz1j/cZTqzRXYG2/r7ZJLtse1wx85T16DydXFxEm2+8uOXjLvdS49 OnUeY0B6cZEfGVJCd3HTM8tEMntLLlHeGq1ZQ6rjuOT1gxdR/3/L/L8m6qQzpXL3 vqXTOvqCXVzkp7719P7tN2B+fATadyv9TXTJUUwTVSzN43WHLcVUN3azQdacamLb 9f9sdv7hkoh9mUF0e1HbklEQMmn30ootX1XGwE9+52TwkHCIHeY= =8xQA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QxTsauF5lU6CIaTo1JARPhDfgiuRTSNku-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 16:54:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71E6CE383F for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B2DA18FD for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v1HGtDP6039889; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:55:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, abi In-Reply-To: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net>, <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:55:19 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:54:43 -0000 On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 abi wrote > 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H пишет: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot > > wrote > > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: > >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> Baho Utot writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my > >>>>>> attention > >>>>> What kind of special support? > >>>>> > >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and > >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen > >>>>> minutes to set up. > >>>>> > >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package > >>>> [...] > >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional > >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use > >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George > >>> > >>> > >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > > > From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and > it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. Oh, I won't argue that. Indeed, chroot(8) is a much lighter solution. But for my needs, jail(8) is the best solution. As I've already setup a number for other tasks, anyway. Speaking of chroot(8), synth(1) chroots all its work. All the best. --Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 18:03:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD989CE3835 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot0-x232.google.com (mail-ot0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90EBF18AC for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot0-x232.google.com with SMTP id k4so16139028otc.0 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:03:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H69/rZNQECT4rnoBGqv9mpkgS++Vi7p0ZaYPOaK1OB0=; b=dc8igAtGfwQ0EdZfk4ibU4jjHV+wbxAGrA8bEj9lYDQKG/ilyimLNmlXcAlbq0kTZb kjlKO4h0yRthr8J7513Zwk6R6IN7huE28phmOsVVzAiXJ1Ah0FqdoDpuBaIyQ+NNgqto D5b7RBE1AEGKxhTgamubu0pFD1RvOU/R7YGw8dHmAbPpq+vavxhP73n7M9mKJcqc0tRN W8NKpvsX1gbmBEOqKyKGH/iZbyRbcaCaKw8Dw+T9EvjWAUGvLa9hbXi+DDOrPl1ldiKM CzPSSpkf9JefOMFifZ9bj3XphbGbnqPXRZy8DMswYHdZSNyuQa7QairBy3jpWQGvUy3O O0IA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H69/rZNQECT4rnoBGqv9mpkgS++Vi7p0ZaYPOaK1OB0=; b=mfC4jhEbYZccPcOkxs1ge4Kz30ybeT4wVH4MhoDe/EFwMzORZQ3VFXDjY+wQ2bYD+o m+vVXJ6B6BVK2uBRiW+EUUHBf/3YmJd3xFDajPCau1sTau8bczb7m0ivZUgmdgyOpLec WgxdvpIzWJy3f2JXfhKMoPzEXyRbf4UGvM3Sta04OpFvNRgc0Yt/ibx2g+xi1WCr/ADE O5Ip/yv4/luf+OqxJCrj2mJbXnOGQp+VUtCBepdtdQzpMH9bUcA/og0czivdD28djd/1 O0wcnAPTa3qScvXOVfRFSl0gTkGHcOKRHI+39j9iCUKqoJqKOPVxUFFiQfTJnJRdzMff Atlw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39loqRRbMjKzidz7atS9M7hFb1oceJ7Z0RzNdXtGBKVoQED7akO4Hv7rChW6mp2UglCk+u6vX3Fii5TGVQ== X-Received: by 10.157.24.43 with SMTP id b40mr4630451ote.212.1487354631617; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:03:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.153.226 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:03:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> From: Luca Pizzamiglio Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:03:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:03:52 -0000 Hi all, thanks for all the replies. To summarize: * chroot/jails build could be a nice feature, but it will be an option, not a requirement. I understand the needs to build in a clean environment (poudriere and synth works in this direction for a good reason), but as port maintainer, building in a "dirty" environment detects this kind of configure problems (library auto-detected or auto-enabled) that a clean environment cannot shows. * dropping privileges is really a nice feature to add. The portstree allow you to build everything as normal user, so portmaster can be able to do it as well. * show flags when build fails should be doable * the dependency order is something I'd like to work on, also to improve the internal management I'd like to re-enabling at least --packages-build, that can be really usefu= l. I'll remove: --packages-only|-PP : it looks redundant to me -e : as above, it's redundant; to remove distfiles, --clean-distfiles can be used after a pkg delete I'm also considering to remove, if nobody is using them: * all the --index options, but only * +IGNOREME support (a file saved in /var/db/pkg/ to force ig= nore) No ETA, but I'll do my best. Best regards, pizzamig On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Chris H wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 abi wrote > >> 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot >> > wrote > >> >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: >> >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> >>>>> Baho Utot writes: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >> >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that c= an >> >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >> >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll ge= t my >> >>>>>> attention >> >>>>> What kind of special support? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only,= and >> >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >> >>>>> minutes to set up. >> >>>>> >> >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package >> >>>> [...] >> >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >> >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >> >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package >> >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used o= n >> >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot >> >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not >> >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. >> > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal >> > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). >> > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has >> > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) >> > >> From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and >> it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. > Oh, I won't argue that. Indeed, chroot(8) is a much lighter solution. > But for my needs, jail(8) is the best solution. As I've already setup > a number for other tasks, anyway. > Speaking of chroot(8), synth(1) chroots all its work. > > All the best. > > --Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 20:47:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA247CE39D4 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wschnr@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FF01A3A for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wschnr@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A68AFCE39D3; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A476CCE39D2 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wschnr@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x244.google.com (mail-yw0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A5C31A39; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wschnr@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x244.google.com with SMTP id q71so4069769ywg.3; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:47:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=pNDiqEOz85GiVA9zVU5KtujUkd/+9kAk2X5D268IOJ0=; b=U8c6uStEJEVVzxynMA9DDzcRmEnfW601pNoc2Lockcg1q340ATLaPtS6QjAISSH2T/ fIUV2IIHHxGP7ThlZ78w5jaQGMpQ3pdpTLYJXqxwtt7KpvJCBo4fgA3rV38o5/0wsmRi Ohziy8RM3QV57yC/JPRzKzLh0vzu8qc6JjDs4dhOHoVIEXJGmaOi7Q7uDbCIURWsVAG8 DZpG7rDrVE1+5a0/jNjxSr08FYzFjEXxNO0UnrpC6wc3NKtrdqBb6GFcMLrUluP/PvSc 9XKgrWEpQdHoZnf/jehhn3oVWx4hzCh/GzYURLDV9y9LGhpZZ/EgEG9BxYZWJyWrRclk E57Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pNDiqEOz85GiVA9zVU5KtujUkd/+9kAk2X5D268IOJ0=; b=a/Z4m0uQimwdpYgKTKd5B4GBqB5Xad0oFTfjMu4enAQVET3FnwzYvVDxL/EetYWD0k XG23PXGHkAsjgM4SiBmdvgB9rWVFiRH+6+bi7gbq5/wOSUk8lFRrdPG6fON3TcBH00Kv u+ro+RnSVQdOALICOUkexduk4A1+lzESHU6ayrAYGQNuabiNn8puwl9lO/zd2bWtvwJp xFVT8n5373hsbXYnWenx9ZUjyfUui49zvmyCktqKnqSbp+U3boLh3Q+PjM4WEN1VMSOl bsoSm/MYsTPxqc5+pZT22ErHnQwCKfTzYDW8+U10ZOfhMrZha9UW9FwzqhNf0b6ewpWh d1oA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39kOxqaU96OH0HReEpCjNP1a5nlNEgJN+W0XRG2h8ytNU1tK+iwbS8+wBe+3TK4j6oYGumPAtJ4UF9eqWA== X-Received: by 10.129.73.65 with SMTP id w62mr7100784ywa.288.1487364442611; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:47:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wschnr@googlemail.com Received: by 10.37.161.72 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:47:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0C35E3A2-892B-43BD-AD74-EA269BFBF052@lop.se> References: <0C35E3A2-892B-43BD-AD74-EA269BFBF052@lop.se> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:47:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xXlPLDYdSc-Vy1GG7KPW_qnVfEA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ports search last database update 2016-01-01 To: "Niklas Blomdalen | LOP" , ports@freebsd.org Cc: www@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:47:23 -0000 On 7 February 2017 at 08:44, Niklas Blomdalen | LOP via freebsd-doc wrote: > Hi. > I just thought you might want to check the ports db sync > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi > Last database update: 2016-01-01 06:08:21 UTC > > Seems like something is stuck somewhere. > It seems to be a fresh copy though, but the date might not reflect reality. Hi Niklas, thanks for your report. The issue is fixed now. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 23:39:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5F7CE37FE for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 23:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBA761DB8 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 23:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1HNda83067101 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:39:43 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1HNdU6m061044 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:39:31 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1HNdUvQ061043; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:39:30 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:39:30 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Luca Pizzamiglio Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Message-ID: <20170217233930.GA8149@server.rulingia.com> References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 23:39:53 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-Feb-17 19:03:31 +0100, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >* dropping privileges is really a nice feature to add. The portstree >allow you to build everything as normal user, so portmaster can be >able to do it as well. I use portmaster as a normal user without problems so I'm not sure what the "new feature" bit would be, other than in conjunction with chroot/jail. >* show flags when build fails should be doable The non-trivial part of this is making it show the flags that are relevant to updating the ports specified in the remaining output. This will normally be different to the flags that portmaster was initially invoked with. >--packages-only|-PP : it looks redundant to me I used to use this, prior to pkgng, to let me build/upgrade packages on one system and then install/upgrade them on a second (much slower) system. I believe all this functionality is now subsumed into pkgng. >I'm also considering to remove, if nobody is using them: >* +IGNOREME support (a file saved in /var/db/pkg/ to force i= gnore) This is a bit of a wart following the pkg_* to pkgng migration but I curren= tly use this for two purposes: 1) On a slow system, it's a convenient way to postpone updating a large port without having to individually say yes/no to each port with -i. Having por= tmaster obey "locked" packages would remove this use but currently portmaster ignor= es "locked" flags and blows up. 2) I have some work-in-progress "ports" that are in my home directory, rath= er than under /usr/ports. Again, creating something like /usr/ports/local as a new SUBDIR would probably be a better approach. --=20 Peter Jeremy --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYp4myXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs0V1sP/1ICqQrJ8sGMxTJMe8Jl8pu3 RtPb/1xArysfF3YgufPMuSuTDK9jJukTxRK/CpK1JVLvitCpUJo8yGF3g8Q++oTL nlJPwHkJn1gm7INN8czMXSIHJoD+hHAAAndiL/JPBUXanFD0Cqv7ImtBJZQf6gfh CvrPgTac1S5VN9FVBkCWHA/XAbwTNetFsHTmHPZIq4QY/mazt+xxnok935eNkFdH pXDQZvJub/HD0DUiX/ZCTa8cY5tfeCTbaIOapFT40vz91Pd38eJNdtMTPDONcg6L ARCqPwgqPON74cq+Vca+2/P/J0sBVRygj3lxOGpEAzFoDry4K+U7tqTAYcSQDYii AqghU4vjO534+7xoNfl99g6MQJMUSon+mKCGrGXZvgG8YGMSNy8RaVObbRv2cZpm KVAvYUHwaUisRuoDnQrP4bqm/Bkt/uU+7BruLqGPhIh5wGfFXB5TH1C4CoNnntDx T3BCiR3mWzEX2GJg9E/7X0wzQyIbtEgR8bVr7w5m7LsVxze6T6fnG6QLKMtNHfAL YBE0tumJdjNTAXRy/XezuEt210VvynOfOR2VM6fH4ZsGzBbl2BHR6OMXxmm5utkC pDdBNo5DaqMr+zLw5O+MACp3YfreVfF1ryZnynkBRuWWgHp1AzBSpyUOMQg4xWR9 zN4IyOfMxl5g/F+AAWcz =1pbD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 07:28:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6FCCE2765 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A92B9E7 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 79E1ECE2764; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797BACE2762 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69B179E6 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1I7Seao021186 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1I7SerY021185; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702180728.v1I7SerY021185@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:28:40 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/ports@freebsd.org.html Port | Current version | New version ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ biology/tinker | 7.1.3 | 8.1.2 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ devel/ocaml-ipaddr | 2.6.1 | 2.7.2 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ devel/py-setuptools-git | 1.1 | 1.2 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 08:18:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CCACE19A6 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5579B1DA for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 54E29CE19A4; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54935CE19A3 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 145731D7; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cf0Dc-000Cwi-Uf; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:18:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:18:12 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Niklas Blomdalen | LOP , ports@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports search last database update 2016-01-01 Message-ID: <20170218081812.GV13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <0C35E3A2-892B-43BD-AD74-EA269BFBF052@lop.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:18:16 -0000 Hi! > > I just thought you might want to check the ports db sync > > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi > > Last database update: 2016-01-01 06:08:21 UTC > > > > Seems like something is stuck somewhere. > > It seems to be a fresh copy though, but the date might not reflect reality. > > Hi Niklas, > > thanks for your report. The issue is fixed now. What about http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py If I search for cego, the links to the reports are 404 and the 103amd64-default (and related) are missing ? -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 12:29:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FBECE2429 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902741E8B for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8CB9FCE2428; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC38CE2427 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61C341E8A; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 988D81E1; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 06:29:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 06:29:11 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: Wolfram Schneider , ports@freebsd.org, Niklas Blomdalen | LOP , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports search last database update 2016-01-01 Message-ID: <20170218122910.GA13741@lonesome.com> References: <0C35E3A2-892B-43BD-AD74-EA269BFBF052@lop.se> <20170218081812.GV13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170218081812.GV13006@home.opsec.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:29:16 -0000 On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 09:18:12AM +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py I maintain portsmon. I'll take a look at it. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 19:15:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A0BCE4755 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8696D1998 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 98C1914AD6; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:15:48 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1487445348; bh=U+vpz5uwLwVD7EtAASVHib3+cDk90utLRWFR5LrVEYI=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=mV9/dYAZQe5OQ3F0yBxIhgb5IXtjmd268gzLNtyvUEZybS/PqbWUlJw5FYBK5woEO Wj0hZUkxuIhJxPddNn01pkGCzM8xDZnYs/qSVGvDTTdtv65i+MoD0OblhuG79IPDpw iNy/NXev2syFAl1AgpIGLt15XMANq73Ed3ZM4vZY= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19BED14AD2 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:15:48 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1487445348; bh=U+vpz5uwLwVD7EtAASVHib3+cDk90utLRWFR5LrVEYI=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=mV9/dYAZQe5OQ3F0yBxIhgb5IXtjmd268gzLNtyvUEZybS/PqbWUlJw5FYBK5woEO Wj0hZUkxuIhJxPddNn01pkGCzM8xDZnYs/qSVGvDTTdtv65i+MoD0OblhuG79IPDpw iNy/NXev2syFAl1AgpIGLt15XMANq73Ed3ZM4vZY= To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: "Russell L. Carter" Subject: radeon GL woes Message-ID: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:15:47 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:15:55 -0000 So I've run into the radeon problem on xorg upgrade, running mpv gives the libGL error: Version 7 or imageFromFds image extension not found libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 error. Adding /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dri.conf: Section "Device" Identifier "Radeon" Driver "radeon" Option "DRI" "2" EndSection has no effect. Nor does setting Option "DRI" "3" I am running without an xorg file, it has up till now run great. I've reinstalled everything that I can think of, I build via poudriere, and I got rid of the llvm37 and llvm38 that were lurking on this system. Any ideas? Thanks, Russell From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 19:42:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B5CCE508C for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citapm.icyb.net.ua (citapm.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B148E1 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citapm.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id VAA15411; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:41:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1cfAtE-000JDG-G2; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:41:52 +0200 Subject: Re: radeon GL woes To: "Russell L. Carter" , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org References: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> From: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <16870909-7ec9-5239-b05a-4602988526cd@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:40:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:42:02 -0000 On 18/02/2017 21:15, Russell L. Carter wrote: > So I've run into the radeon problem on xorg upgrade, running > mpv gives the > > libGL error: Version 7 or imageFromFds image extension not found > libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 > > error. I've been told that this is benign error and the r600 driver actually works. This is somehow related to DRI3 not being supported, but I don't know details. freebsd-x11@ could be a better list for this question. > Adding /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dri.conf: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Radeon" > Driver "radeon" > Option "DRI" "2" > EndSection > > has no effect. Nor does setting Option "DRI" "3" > > I am running without an xorg file, it has up till now > run great. > > I've reinstalled everything that I can think of, I build > via poudriere, and I got rid of the llvm37 and llvm38 that > were lurking on this system. > > Any ideas? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:04:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F23CE55A8 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward3p.cmail.yandex.net (forward3p.cmail.yandex.net [77.88.31.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B98241615 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.28]) by forward3p.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7747520B67; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:04:33 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B995D2940C1F; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:04:32 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 3woDG2ROoS-4Um4XIID; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:04:31 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1487448271; bh=Mb9G5f8hDGyxvm94zvlU8T9QTg+BwyI0UAVAj1HjAG4=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=FsLQjzGPOyXDoas3TPd6GhojOpM3rvwi8iwoQ5MVgIXm07K51if0hBHD2vsoJzK7A 7mQfw6qUMYbjO/47nNZPcrHRJyyWumafu+kW52ut1s350yef80prxzEaFN8ng0+qZt 9HCTDWV/YxVaHUK/LlnM1jWut2SbSOdWMlSPiO24= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1487448268.90676.1.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: radeon GL woes From: Stari Karp To: "Russell L. Carter" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:04:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> References: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:04:43 -0000 On Sat, 2017-02-18 at 12:15 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: > So I've run into the radeon problem on xorg upgrade, running > mpv gives the > > libGL error: Version 7 or imageFromFds image extension not found > libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 > > error. > > Adding /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dri.conf: > > Section "Device" >          Identifier "Radeon" >          Driver "radeon" >          Option "DRI" "2" > EndSection > > has no effect.  Nor does setting Option "DRI" "3" > > I am running without an xorg file, it has up till now > run great. > > I've reinstalled everything that I can think of, I build > via poudriere, and I got rid of the llvm37 and llvm38 that > were lurking on this system. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Russell The above settings work on my system. My graphics card: vendor='Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] device="RV770/MP8L [Mobility Radeon HD 4850}' From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:21:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988ACCE59B6 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73A351FA7 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 6D37414CD7; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:21:56 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1487449316; bh=cth684SNqwKBkFOiHr5xCDQ60BErfkDwiI0G9jRXYUM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=P3pCc98oIzLh+dwQYBHXQ9GKvw/PeM8nCrvdz0RQtDKADwRcN9OvinKdNBkIdb3Ax l2hoqVtEFlhsTwol8qofn4ih5Gu8HKDMWTAs/MtmRO6l0G3SmdpjrfDbS89abyQgEG GEo3PKQ9ZjpqLfLZRZE0mOswOezPXWFM6/wyUreQ= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A47AB14CCE for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:21:55 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1487449315; bh=cth684SNqwKBkFOiHr5xCDQ60BErfkDwiI0G9jRXYUM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=H3iXx8CFsMsE6QwIWAAkJlCp48xiNChfidkBpZ4KwaloN7xfEPKqhBF6PlCGKdND+ yxuTuXTrSqDZEC8AnD68dR25KG2XjInVN0doYK0oilslAk0v5/4ziZ4WzytdqjNZAx D+Bh/lEG7SmRFwwKiYDYjTLNKFLW5jO9QA8rODeM= Subject: Re: radeon GL woes To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> <1487448268.90676.1.camel@yandex.com> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: <155f7133-0ba6-7122-97ee-e206e84f2d98@pinyon.org> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:21:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1487448268.90676.1.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:21:57 -0000 On 02/18/17 13:04, Stari Karp wrote: > On Sat, 2017-02-18 at 12:15 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: >> So I've run into the radeon problem on xorg upgrade, running >> mpv gives the >> >> libGL error: Version 7 or imageFromFds image extension not found >> libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 >> >> error. >> >> Adding /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dri.conf: >> >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "Radeon" >> Driver "radeon" >> Option "DRI" "2" >> EndSection >> >> has no effect. Nor does setting Option "DRI" "3" >> >> I am running without an xorg file, it has up till now >> run great. >> >> I've reinstalled everything that I can think of, I build >> via poudriere, and I got rid of the llvm37 and llvm38 that >> were lurking on this system. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Thanks, >> Russell > The above settings work on my system. > My graphics card: > vendor='Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] > device="RV770/MP8L > [Mobility Radeon HD 4850}' > Apparently the onboard graphics chipset is the AMD 890GX, though I don't see any text in dmesg or Xorg.0.log confirming that. I do see "ATI 880" in dmesg. The motherboard is an ECS A890GXM-A2. Xorg worked perfectly till this week. I'll wait a few more hours before sticking in an NVIDIA card. Saturday night is movie night :-) Thanks, Russell > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 22:51:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6DDCE5923 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADD11BD7 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1A352CE5922; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DC9CE5921 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [203.23.236.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB98A1BBA for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (210-1-210-40-cpe.spintel.net.au [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AAE84C232D for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:51:36 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1IMpYuw017700 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 08:51:35 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <58A8CFF6.6010706@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 08:51:34 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Odd daily security run output message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:51:49 -0000 I get this in my daily security run output: Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: Database fetched: Fri Feb 17 03:47:22 AEST 2017 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13_4 avidemux-2.6.11_5 perl5-5.20.3_15: Tag: expiration_date Value: 2017-06-30 samba36-libsmbclient-3.6.25_2: Tag: expiration_date Value: 2016-04-01 perl5-5.20.3_15: Tag: deprecated Value: Unsupported, please upgrade to a more recent version of Perl samba36-libsmbclient-3.6.25_2: Tag: deprecated Value: not supported by the upstream I get the jist of what it's trying to tell me, I think... FreeBSD-11/stable r313567 - should I post to another list? -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 23:43:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E803CE439A for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A886109D for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 55E5ED19B; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:43:55 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1487461435; bh=9ydQ0ImHq2rgA2zEeA/d/nuKeXoFsnSoTCf6vZ7j2W8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=imbQ1uWGeoycecLoX0TETRGGaotgV1+NVGMKpYIOPtG36Db1j9NuXsvWxHPcAGL1x acmUlGevO397B3Nxi1kBJMEvw6KI5POVVL4o0hC/TGa4KzmQY5xHfMzqADpvvzpOPD r2utT4anF99Gn5jYTuphZBclRZojuG+l8qdHRN/w= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6CCF9D191 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:43:54 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1487461434; bh=9ydQ0ImHq2rgA2zEeA/d/nuKeXoFsnSoTCf6vZ7j2W8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Z06IahF4vZrHIx8LqnDPq+++g2ipu138rLzzae7hoIgRAyEC2nt83+YYmJ5xFol0H Pmh7R0eOO6krCrA3JWIuBgDbMyNHV80eFLBtEx0i0yp4/ViuaeCfNnY0j5+eULXaFV RRl1xGJcjCOwvnWx00QNNrt4U/mpMg98GZSu19E8= Subject: Re: radeon GL woes To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4906099e-e4d1-33e9-6af3-92b75173554e@pinyon.org> <1487448268.90676.1.camel@yandex.com> <155f7133-0ba6-7122-97ee-e206e84f2d98@pinyon.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: <93b79ba9-28d0-8714-ea68-dea9d16c0ac1@pinyon.org> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:43:53 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <155f7133-0ba6-7122-97ee-e206e84f2d98@pinyon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:43:57 -0000 On 02/18/17 13:21, Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 02/18/17 13:04, Stari Karp wrote: >> On Sat, 2017-02-18 at 12:15 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: >>> So I've run into the radeon problem on xorg upgrade, running >>> mpv gives the >>> >>> libGL error: Version 7 or imageFromFds image extension not found >>> libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 >>> >>> error. >>> >>> Adding /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dri.conf: >>> >>> Section "Device" >>> Identifier "Radeon" >>> Driver "radeon" >>> Option "DRI" "2" >>> EndSection >>> >>> has no effect. Nor does setting Option "DRI" "3" >>> >>> I am running without an xorg file, it has up till now >>> run great. >>> >>> I've reinstalled everything that I can think of, I build >>> via poudriere, and I got rid of the llvm37 and llvm38 that >>> were lurking on this system. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Russell >> The above settings work on my system. >> My graphics card: >> vendor='Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] >> device="RV770/MP8L >> [Mobility Radeon HD 4850}' >> > > Apparently the onboard graphics chipset is the AMD 890GX, though I > don't see any text in dmesg or Xorg.0.log confirming that. I do see > "ATI 880" in dmesg. The motherboard is an ECS A890GXM-A2. Xorg > worked perfectly till this week. > > I'll wait a few more hours before sticking in an NVIDIA card. > Saturday night is movie night :-) And... I had a loose 750 GTX fanless card in the closet, now I'm 1080p videos capable again. But probably 100W is the cost. Oh well. Best, Russell > Thanks, > Russell > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 23:45:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE47CE441D for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8F1114C for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 17FDECE441C; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179EFCE441B for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1113114A for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id y140so9536020oie.1 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:45:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=K1QCTFL9fnYYLF0A7T7mhU/ycph+Z5jbmfjqIX0Qw1U=; b=CY5hv7u0CRXwi137q9R15sLNODa/K478Jd7BK6h3TZs+AyGhV0/WTs8Vvir3sbXBIZ fxi+8JgRGp7E3KmpKLA1wvvad2mfM9YnkUGP/IQeI+YEtfO7kMJ/LWXtOaNc7+h48/hW 3wLltoKX1vZOiQGh1P/JPOfG1cl0DO7P9XqViNczwCU5f9rp5kUC2Ijn8VHEbonQQKGS o8RlwjVkF2lXOIGHN1cDUSc6BAgdecYmCiVs8AinCT93ORAk5W+lO4alb29YWtFQeYFL 6Cq8zpqsPU3qsQkXq5LJwLN8MCqx4lCj18cmvHIGOuXQAdoAEngbfSZALv9vH5WOe5BT MBFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=K1QCTFL9fnYYLF0A7T7mhU/ycph+Z5jbmfjqIX0Qw1U=; b=QWTviFPt/YDdoBXQbIB5TzvOUaIsmWTHd6VjnvUdfiubZl7lkjFK1ulMRjDmCFMom3 VAGFkqv4nWY0vQhdNaT20KP7hbsk6mcaXbTt7VZIy5gwt0Tq5bFgDiZLlhNqrQwCC1yY Fl0WW1vo5r3u/cRNL9UrxmQZv6ZsYF0jUfYjf2ib9+aideQkZe+BwStS6JDTA6v4vD/w A8rA31wOK5x7xfwqiF6PU+ycVZYiG/n4DAZLbPWoGPOYHmCYwYxsNUdsqWnFnZnGj4ZA lNKaMMp33Vkzo62fqLMhfp5NBURlGQGoGSBTaEb0+lnioCCPJJHX+3guMv3FTHL+onkL sh3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lPNR0nqDZPKiINaCoKYsU75kbHnsDP1Y6nONbAkLRBn4AKfpDqamyDTcGAoBjz3IdFOaUW+baoprKYGw== X-Received: by 10.202.181.11 with SMTP id e11mr7806526oif.57.1487461513184; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:45:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.74.32.79 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:45:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <58A8CFF6.6010706@andyit.com.au> References: <58A8CFF6.6010706@andyit.com.au> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:45:12 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Lay8wcx1S24G0CpfU3UezwBRJbs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Odd daily security run output message To: Andy Farkas Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:45:14 -0000 On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Andy Farkas wrote: > > I get this in my daily security run output: > > Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: > Database fetched: Fri Feb 17 03:47:22 AEST 2017 > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13_4 > avidemux-2.6.11_5 > perl5-5.20.3_15: Tag: expiration_date Value: 2017-06-30 > samba36-libsmbclient-3.6.25_2: Tag: expiration_date Value: 2016-04-01 > perl5-5.20.3_15: Tag: deprecated Value: Unsupported, please upgrade to a > more recent version of Perl samba36-libsmbclient-3.6.25_2: Tag: deprecated > Value: not supported by the upstream > > I get the jist of what it's trying to tell me, I think... > > FreeBSD-11/stable r313567 - should I post to another list? > > -andyf > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > This belongs here because the message is a muddled mess. It might belong to gnome@ because I am only aware that gnome is the remaining ports user of this port. (I'm quite possibly wrong about this.) It's telling you (very poorly) that Samba v3.6 is no longer supported by the samba folks and you should stop using it and that it is scheduled to be deleted at hte end of June. Unfortunately, the Gnome v2 VFS stuff still depends on it and a lot of MATE depends on gnome VFS. The Gnome folks are not likely to do anything to fix a problem with Gnome2 stuff. The version of gnome-vfs in ports is the current one and I ave no idea if the MATE people are working on updating it to use something newer. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683