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([183.171.69.11]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 199-v6sm1405011itl.1.2018.03.14.04.27.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5aa9072a.1c69fb81.c1bc2.75b3@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-chat@freebsd.org" From: Ahmad Syahir Shahrin Subject: Suggestion for network-related project Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:27:36 +0800 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:27:40 -0000 I originally posted this on the forum but someone think I would fare better= on the mailing list. I don=E2=80=99t know if this is the right mailing-lis= t to post but I=E2=80=99ll take my chance. Here it is. I need to come up with a 2-3 months duration school project but couldn=E2= =80=99t figure what to do. I enroll in data communication and networking co= urse but the main focus has always been about configuring interfaces, addre= ssing, routing, NAT, ACL and pretty much what they have on Cisco=E2=80=99s = network academy for routing & switching track. I also make myself to unders= tand the different protocols used in basic TCP/IP communication and their f= ormat(Ethernet II, ARP, IPv4, IPv6, NDP and etc.). I=E2=80=99m thinking abo= ut using virtualization such as VirtualBox and GNS3 and of course I=E2=80= =99d love to squeeze FreeBSD into the picture wherever possible. I can prog= ram a little bit in C, Java, Perl and shell but I wouldn=E2=80=99t count th= at much on them. That said, I=E2=80=99d be very grateful for any suggestio= n. From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Wed Mar 14 11:37:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674EFF4AB8B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@yourstruly.sx) Received: from edge.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx (edge.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a2c4:1001::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edge", Issuer "edge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C41197C2F0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@yourstruly.sx) Received: from exc.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx (10.242.242.1) by edge.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx (10.242.242.2) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.669.32; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:37:23 -0700 Content-Language: en-US DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=yourstruly.sx; s=mailer; c=simple/simple; t=1521027368; h=from:subject:to:date:message-id; bh=x23wu+Jh88zg58NkIxLT7fRglLMyqYa74sN3cHtqs8o=; b=sN9/J0pe5TEcgD4bxEnglJ7/TGw3Stlq619acO6+1XkzPcBv6YSk5ULQzn+9de/teLnXqwP9c2j b3JugSMZ/Yv7eaJPEP4Q6I6AOoke+WpfWK9zkU40u9RSCav13Hytihx+N3oxSRWpjrFq97WalsnRq 5xsMKpFGaDtfcDRn6nW7MZ4tRDqpeHCglV0nW/GQZeYI098LQDxUYWLOMAq01PYPZz+5/2xDcusuc Oa2y0GCLWXSy2mD+EYVgybJmHPiH2A+igAAJiVUuPCmqVcXWh3gMStfdvZeQ7cY5knDVadkJthK2C UiHy6AkCBknnLzVFzJ2FUhYC5p8e4VdW/c4A== Received: from exc.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx (10.242.0.104) by exc.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx (10.242.0.104) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.669.32; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:35:55 -0700 Received: from exc.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx ([fe80::6419:66fc:47f6:6ccb]) by exc.seattle1.wa.us.yourstruly.sx ([fe80::6419:66fc:47f6:6ccb%6]) with mapi id 15.01.0669.032; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:35:55 -0700 From: Paige Thompson To: Ahmad Syahir Shahrin , "freebsd-chat@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Suggestion for network-related project Thread-Topic: Suggestion for network-related project Thread-Index: AQHTu4d2HcThI+a3WEKyFBW4cJgpoKPPmPCT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:35:55 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5aa9072a.1c69fb81.c1bc2.75b3@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5aa9072a.1c69fb81.c1bc2.75b3@mx.google.com> Accept-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.242.242.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:37:27 -0000 oh yeah setting up networks for fun, running servers, give out shell accoun= ts to your friends run mail servers, troll on irc, https://youtu.be/dXpaVnp= M4ZM [http://img.youtube.com/vi/dXpaVnpM4ZM/0.jpg] Resizing a VM disk using qemu-img and btrfs resize (successful sorta) - You= Tube youtu.be depends on what you consider a success x_x I still had to delete the partit= ion, and recreate it which I didn't really want to do because there's all k= inds of... I do this all the time; "projects" but I'm starting to question more why do= I care? Is worth it? Evidently I just don't have any programming skills or= any talents so its not really useful for getting a job. Still pretty fun t= hough you should try it feel free to browse my videos (the ones that don't = get banned because copyright notices or whatever) see if any of them give y= ou any ideas ________________________________ From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org on be= half of Ahmad Syahir Shahrin Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:27:36 AM To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion for network-related project I originally posted this on the forum but someone think I would fare better= on the mailing list. I don=92t know if this is the right mailing-list to p= ost but I=92ll take my chance. Here it is. I need to come up with a 2-3 months duration school project but couldn=92t = figure what to do. I enroll in data communication and networking course but= the main focus has always been about configuring interfaces, addressing, r= outing, NAT, ACL and pretty much what they have on Cisco=92s network academ= y for routing & switching track. I also make myself to understand the diffe= rent protocols used in basic TCP/IP communication and their format(Ethernet= II, ARP, IPv4, IPv6, NDP and etc.). I=92m thinking about using virtualizat= ion such as VirtualBox and GNS3 and of course I=92d love to squeeze FreeBSD= into the picture wherever possible. I can program a little bit in C, Java,= Perl and shell but I wouldn=92t count that much on them. That said, I=92d = be very grateful for any suggestion. _______________________________________________ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Wed Mar 14 12:02:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD11F4C850 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80C0D7D22D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EEF3516D8 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/EEF3516D8; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Suggestion for network-related project To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <5aa9072a.1c69fb81.c1bc2.75b3@mx.google.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:01:49 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5aa9072a.1c69fb81.c1bc2.75b3@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:02:00 -0000 On 14/03/2018 11:27, Ahmad Syahir Shahrin wrote: > I originally posted this on the forum but someone think I would fare > better on the mailing list. I don’t know if this is the right > mailing-list to post but I’ll take my chance. Here it is. You'ld probably find one of the more technical lists more useful, especially once you've narrowed down the scope of your project. freebsd-questions@ is good for less directed questions, and freebsd-hackers@ is good for more technical discussions which don't fit into any of the more specific lists. > I need to come up with a 2-3 months duration school project but > couldn’t figure what to do. I enroll in data communication and > networking course but the main focus has always been about configuring > interfaces, addressing, routing, NAT, ACL and pretty much what they have > on Cisco’s network academy for routing & switching track. I also make > myself to understand the different protocols used in basic TCP/IP > communication and their format(Ethernet II, ARP, IPv4, IPv6, NDP and > etc.). I’m thinking about using virtualization such as VirtualBox and > GNS3 and of course I’d love to squeeze FreeBSD into the picture wherever > possible. I can program a little bit in C, Java, Perl and shell but I > wouldn’t count that much on them. That said, I’d be very grateful for > any suggestion. One thing you might find interesting is looking at how you can manage an IP address range allocation across a diverse range of client systems: routers, firewalls, switches, servers, end-user client machines in an efficient and error-free way. There's plenty of prior art in doing this, so a lot of the project would be researching how other people / companies have done this. What all those things should have in common is some single, central "source of truth" -- generally known as an IPAM system. (For example, this is a good product: https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox -- it needs a bit of porting work to get it running on FreeBSD, which I have been looking at, but not got very far with yet.) The interesting part comes in how you integrate your IPAM database with DHCP and DNS servers, with directory systems like FreeIPA or Active Directory, with configuration management software like Puppet or Ansible, etc. etc. particularly at scale, where the importance of having a single central source of truth is magnified. Cheers, Matthew