From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 01:28:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E0B10B5040 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 01:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic301-2.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic301-2.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.129.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D86879AAA for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 01:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: ToSkLJsVM1k1UlKUOOKKzcyNwmVDFCk2FVycQpKDyWmPNp9HyYfeCNq.qGFi3LA dL_Lgz80o41xawvWqOitGT7BKT3AWZt4CUAQsoWuXgBQWrSO6Sg8ecYVjzt9Fua3AccQcL6SQLaa iQTkd2398LdIBe0VKFGS94wH3kcIUBd4HBMYMqj3oFl6lwuI9PLijZf1AgMsWGe8QV3XuBycYGlv IKzpbVutj.qGKvGATzBv2Tc.4JY_2pVrPJ01OLOadUzQhKTHXEgORbc02So8zGkRycVgsh4cvjCn 8iwBiWAO_k5r5NZLa_AHxvfSgMt0XOfW2nEs_ZiDRfPUublebe6_JUVBRWHDqXapv87XvBLX953O cRp_hF9TMQ577a4bq8ATIziea6IjQcfhuc6oSjIMKIj2fnaXgS8_7JxPe0NWSj12sqhzglKDel1K 6rS1RteGIEO8pWoj9WMWHNbkr2STdqEHZG5MjjO2ugdLpyza5VSIVYk701XiEV1Thb0NpzaR5arG OQUkuo.R1kYsie6Np_t8spyYI6ROJedM50.khVJF59VBE2xQIKUkc_4A3UBOn5s.bId4JdsVVxJ9 do5oXpSHh9Cv47YXNh.8N26LavJihnxEiv_V3ivHAY4fnjyitGCYh9J9980JMRmVxTL5bRINwvLr 19RbSPs0sRDEAB7VeiXjbOeB5iGMMX3tDoveFPOTFYmPZf8qxjvihLgVqQ2Uf3E1uCTS.jIEZE24 Q71XvD1LzGZe9ZK6pebl6kNo_iLW1N.cc.W_uKMz1ioBmPVUujmYjl49MxLg3eOQZLbic.ptwEfq 5A1SuB1pUFxE10ABRgN2yBV6ABwvtEuauzqa4plxpDBsri89YigGCi8gCL7XTP6eEK7dCYN34G_c pFc0o7uJwxohfW2csKxRym9xjuNkCPmZ_pQ97QB0DYSU3HOYc1_Ox5VNkrVhKqe23nO.IW5d2bm. 4WflxvgMdxX0Z4w.SqLQni15QV4te0URK6GwU48NTznzlUjayZQCU3tn2aDyScIOzlPMZ4g.oJLN cys.TJhO825je8YNH_aedo1HnCZC6wfgoQMdTWuYCO91oNQ-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 01:27:57 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.101]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp414.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8cea2e34adbb732f1cdd7de21269ac4e for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2018 01:27:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-Id: <93B37DB3-331A-4C94-BF1E-BFDC5D066A53@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:27:53 -0700 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 01:28:03 -0000 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2018-October/019167.html talks about removing 10Mbit/100Mbit ethernet drivers. This is not an objection to the proposal, just an FYI. As I remember all the PowerMac/PowerBook/iMac/iBook G3's did not have 1GBit Ethernet built-in: just 10Mbit and 100Mbit. Also the earliest G4's did not (e.g., AGP's and 350 MHz PCI), including the PowerPC Mac-mini's. (All the G5's had 1Gbit Ethernet as I remember.) I'm not sure which FreeBSD drivers covered the various examples of lacking 1Gbit Ethernet. The proposal may be eliminating built-in-ethernet support for (some of) the oldest of the Apple PowerPC machines for all I know. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)