From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 00:22:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E72110CBB5 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic310-15.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic310-15.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.135.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6851988A90 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: mdCW1jkVM1k9i7pw2ORxKH3AKswA5vNMZ6LfEMyjQeyqh08r.OZ_KJz7m1Dp4ab 22PnJQC9X0JbisYv6.r8WmgJ.eVCVLrYTHyKSXMjKnMc..4u2VCDFxItyyQ4cZcWR3P.7Y5.YPWD IW_raGvupBBrhpn3BN6ESBWIqFf9yGSqKnzJ5dQrUgi5LJhpG4Wvhv1xlqsw9qrJsvGry7AiXKMM jBHMSyjseTOLhlnBxNVlh3nntANpPh1FVpJkvp.5vaQKvuxuQ04VWEVvtLkPyohcD1S.B3uh.jst CZzagm_bWlodRaLxNqqswNULouw5GTYbrn8LuDwOeFobIbJgPUr.TZ.DyxbvPtNJTSt9x1rUdKQk FJYnr3Skf5li74iyQo1x3PtNnXdRcgAfri14xPneICTSLzWadiAEw3OmGF0g29TTY1ci6kiKZXzn hFGmLjgNQ59v3XawVow4B2TlL4p2tZDYrUeTB_dg4Ht5Og2KvXaNzgfmzSmeDAz105STEWGylDOK oW0mB1aqLHhc4hZM1dzZA2zaYj9i9uMWN36V1LTjzVo5ccTrstHf6TYS78OpCRGlEjnBLliCiXiw bC.VjBW2I.v7_9q4v0FgRTalbQvqVyaE0npCQ25NL7WDtlztaDm_wA_pwH1JubC.Zwy5PP8i65z6 xYB6l44W_35bY_5KHZ3wUIvOv0WWR8tOYzNzF_KXjsBf1b2tIe43yUSvSSLiUl7wGfq0UC.E2HGk NdlinU7bb7PJExg_26OVDm.GVIIRWbSbidOtXZj7vD3vxK1H0ts5yv_PMHxMA6wPYYv4zQ5WtT1X wuXbP1qnuN1a1UHHsTitVIVHkAkxudDaWFM8i3ztKYBlVSlMwdC2DOUvT39zm9xe0kauxxtUH9Ji 6VD7Hl8hUsX0Khjb_2I.vwF1iCpEgp_cQxoL0CJOb_m_jezUx3krb8krGPJFPgmlnkhcSO_v9aOT m6K1uBo8T848Gh_LprMqNXrXCUE19QMIGX7dPkD4odXXsJP_USKWv0TtXyPhghqe0kAokE.NLw8K .n6F7JXm2Zy3R0LXRSLft5vUs0DZZbHnKTkZx4JVX2qcYIyb3FpC4obGSeNn0LKaNHhI- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:01 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.25]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp421.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 707969d27aaedf208353d0a091c93399; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:21:57 -0800 Cc: Michael Tuexen , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> To: Dennis Clarke , Justin Hibbits X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6851988A90 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.39)[0.394,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[125.135.6.74.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(0.74)[ip: (-0.04), ipnet: 74.6.128.0/21(2.12), asn: 26101(1.70), country: US(-0.10)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26101, ipnet:74.6.128.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:22:09 -0000 On 2018-Nov-17, at 14:51, Dennis Clarke = wrote: > On 11/17/18 4:04 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >>> . . . >=20 >> As I reported earlier: >> Disabling SMP with head gives a system behaving nicely. Enabling SMP = and >> reverting r334498 gives me a usable system, with two limitation I = observed >> so far: >=20 > Hold on .. you say "head" and I can only assume that means some = current > dev rev hiding somewhere. As stands 12.x has picked up Justin's change . . . stable/12 picked up the -r334498 from head: = https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/12/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h?vi= ew=3Dlog shows: Revision 339434 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (4 weeks, 1 day ago) by gjb=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 334498 Copy head@r339432 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle. Additional post-branch commits will follow. Approved by: re (implicit) Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation Revision 334498 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Jun 1 21:37:20 2018 UTC (5 months, 2 weeks ago) by jhibbits=20= Original Path: head/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 331900 Increase powerpc64 KVA from ~7.25GB to 32GB This will let us use much more KVA for ZFS ARC where needed. This may = be incresed in the future if memory requirements increase. Discussed with: nwhitehorn In turn the releng sequence later picked up the above as well: = https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.0/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h?= view=3Dlog shows: Revision 340470 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Nov 16 00:00:59 2018 UTC (2 days ago) by gjb=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 339434 - Copy stable/12@r340462 to releng/12.0 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle. - Prune svn:mergeinfo from the new branch. - Update from BETA4 to RC1. Approved by: re (implicit) Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation Revision 339434 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (4 weeks, 2 days ago) by gjb=20 Original Path: stable/12/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 334498 Copy head@r339432 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle. Additional post-branch commits will follow. Approved by: re (implicit) Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation Revision 334498 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]=20 Modified Fri Jun 1 21:37:20 2018 UTC (5 months, 2 weeks ago) by jhibbits=20= Original Path: head/sys/powerpc/include/vmparam.h=20 File length: 7514 byte(s)=20 Diff to previous 331900 Increase powerpc64 KVA from ~7.25GB to 32GB This will let us use much more KVA for ZFS ARC where needed. This may = be incresed in the future if memory requirements increase. Discussed with: nwhitehorn > I know that in the Apache world I build from > trunk just fine as they like to say "trunk" whereas here in FreeBSD = land > the word seems to be "head". Wherefore is this wonderful fountain of > code? :-) I am more than happy ( delighted in fact ) to fetch = sources > and build and test and figure out bits needed. Certainly on not_x86. >=20 >> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >> gets them down again. After a while they will start to get >> louder again. >=20 > Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. >=20 >> 2. When shutting down the system, >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufdaemon' to stop... >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-1' to = stop... >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-0' to = stop... >> times out. >> Best regards >> Michael >=20 > Thank you for the input and help here. I think that perhaps ppc64 = could > and even should be up in tier-1 given that state of IBM servers these > days but some effort and support is merely needed. >=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 02:18:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A53D112244D for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE3B18CED5 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.44]) by atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAI2IHNR025026 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:18:17 -0500 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail02pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.36]) by atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAI2I9Te023302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:18:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 40953 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2018 02:18:09 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 18 Nov 2018 02:18:09 -0000 Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> <30ac37cc-9123-0e3d-c4a2-529d824c20df@freebsd.org> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:18:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <30ac37cc-9123-0e3d-c4a2-529d824c20df@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DE3B18CED5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.16)[-0.165,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[119.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:18:25 -0000 >> >> Thank you for the input and help here. I think that perhaps ppc64 could >> and even should be up in tier-1 given that state of IBM servers these >> days but some effort and support is merely needed. >> >> Dennis >> > > > Just a quick note, that we're trying to get a functional pkg set: > > http://pylon.nyi.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=head-powerpc64-default&build=p485206_s340525 > > We'll try turning up the juice from -J4 in poudriere in a bit and see > how much we can push this Tyan Power8. Once we get something on > -current, we'll move to 12-release hopefully. Stay tuned. > cool .. however I have seen odd behavior with gmake -jx for x>1 on some risc systems before and usually with gcc bootstrap builds both stage3 and stage4 bootstraps. It may be best to just stay in -j1 world. For the moment I am building everything from ports and just caught a small mpfr regression : https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=232802 I'll check this on ppc64. 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(dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 18 Nov 2018 03:08:24 -0000 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: Dennis Clarke Subject: horrific performance with trivial operations such as portsnap fetch update Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:08:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BBCD8EFDD X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.11 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.14)[0.137,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[41.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 03:08:33 -0000 This seems terribly wrong : eris# uname -a FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc eris# eris# /usr/bin/time -p /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching public key from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Fetching snapshot generated at Sun Nov 18 00:04:47 UTC 2018: f906ea4e03b768110c650179ec70c1c5196016c2b665fc 86 MB 12 MBps 07s Extracting snapshot... done. Verifying snapshot integrity... done. Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Ports tree hasn't changed since last snapshot. No updates needed. /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. real 2430.61 user 167.52 sys 2101.29 eris# Not sure where the problem is however this is a very new install : eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o | sort -r 1542507622 pkg 1.10.5_5 ports-mgmt/pkg 1542499292 dialog4ports 0.1.6 ports-mgmt/dialog4ports eris# eris# uptime 3:07AM up 4:20, 1 user, load averages: 0.38, 1.20, 1.48 eris# last root ttyv0 Sat Nov 17 23:10 - 23:22 (00:11) dclarke pts/0 172.16.35.3 Sat Nov 17 22:48 still logged in boot time Sat Nov 17 22:47 utx.log begins Sat Nov 17 22:47:52 UTC 2018 eris# However I am running with kern.smp.disable=1 but that can not account for this sort of a performance penalty. Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 09:11:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB831130F09 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuexen@fh-muenster.de) Received: from drew.franken.de (drew.ipv6.franken.de [IPv6:2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.franken.de", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98AEE72D6A for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuexen@fh-muenster.de) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (p57BB4979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.187.73.121]) (Authenticated sender: macmic) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CAB8721E281E; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:24 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Tuexen Message-Id: <0C021CC4-6C1C-4A75-B2D6-D4CEE92CBD10@fh-muenster.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_09285E8D-B04C-4203-9602-94E46BB1FF3E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> Cc: Michael Tuexen , FreeBSD PowerPC ML To: Dennis Clarke References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail-n.franken.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 98AEE72D6A X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fh-muenster.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.fh-muenster.de,mx2.fh-muenster.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.943,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[a.a.e.f.a.4.e.f.f.f.c.0.e.0.2.0.1.0.0.a.2.0.a.0.8.3.6.0.1.0.0.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.59)[ip: (-5.53), ipnet: 2001:638::/32(-2.33), asn: 680(-0.06), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:680, ipnet:2001:638::/32, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:11:29 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_09285E8D-B04C-4203-9602-94E46BB1FF3E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 17. Nov 2018, at 23:51, Dennis Clarke = wrote: >=20 > On 11/17/18 4:04 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >>> On 17. Nov 2018, at 09:56, Dennis Clarke = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On 11/17/18 3:46 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >>>>> On 17. Nov 2018, at 04:34, Dennis Clarke = wrote: >>> >>>>> eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o >>>>> ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.8" not found, required by = "pkg" >>>>> eris# >>>>>=20 >>>>> really ? >>>> Unfortunately, yes. Right now. >>>> During the release process, OpenSSL was upgraded. Not all package = builders >>>> seems to be in sync. Please note that PowerPC is not a Tier 1 = platform... >>>=20 >>> Yep .. regardless I tossed 12.0b3 out an air lock and started over = with >>> rc1. Building pkg from ports works fine. Seems to. Oddly rc1 still >>> reports as BETA3 : >>>=20 >>> eris# >>> eris# uname -a >>> FreeBSD eris 12.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 12.0-BETA3 r340039 GENERIC powerpc >> That revision is beta3: >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/340039 >> Are you sure you installed the RC1 image? >=20 >=20 > ummm .. yeah ... I think so. er ... nope. drat. >=20 > I fetched and burned FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-dvd1.iso from > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/ and well = gee > I did not boot it live and check what it had to say. I could give that = a > shot. Also in the install phase I didn't drop to a shell and run this: >=20 > dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 >=20 > That is overkill but it writes zeros to the first 16M sectors of the > disk. I had done that in the past to move from Debian Linux over to > FreeBSD merely to be super sure that there wasn't anything nasty = hiding > on some cyl0 area or some other silly bits. >=20 > I'll boot the dbd live and see what it says. >=20 > Yeah ... somehow managed to do an install and NOT do an install. >=20 > root@eris:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc >=20 > That looks better. Yepp. One mystery less... >=20 >>> eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o | sort -r >>> 1542444839 dialog4ports 0.1.6 ports-mgmt/dialog4ports >>> 1542444137 pkg 1.10.5_5 ports-mgmt/pkg >>> eris# >>>=20 >>> I still am not sure where we stand on the whole kern.smp.disabled = issue >>> but that is another matter. >=20 >> As I reported earlier: >> Disabling SMP with head gives a system behaving nicely. Enabling SMP = and >> reverting r334498 gives me a usable system, with two limitation I = observed >> so far: >=20 > Hold on .. you say "head" and I can only assume that means some = current > dev rev hiding somewhere. I know that in the Apache world I build from > trunk just fine as they like to say "trunk" whereas here in FreeBSD = land > the word seems to be "head". Wherefore is this wonderful fountain of > code? :-) I am more than happy ( delighted in fact ) to fetch = sources > and build and test and figure out bits needed. Certainly on not_x86. Just checkout the code in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/ via svn. This is where development happens. I'm building kernel/world on the PowerMac... >=20 >> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >> gets them down again. After a while they will start to get >> louder again. >=20 > Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. OK. Which PowerMac are you using? Best regards Michael >=20 >> 2. When shutting down the system, >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufdaemon' to stop... >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-1' to = stop... >> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-0' to = stop... >> times out. >> Best regards >> Michael >=20 > Thank you for the input and help here. I think that perhaps ppc64 = could > and even should be up in tier-1 given that state of IBM servers these > days but some effort and support is merely needed. >=20 > Dennis >=20 --Apple-Mail=_09285E8D-B04C-4203-9602-94E46BB1FF3E Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCEJAw ggTVMIIDvaADAgECAghQTsb1PRG0ZDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBxMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEcMBoG A1UEChMTRGV1dHNjaGUgVGVsZWtvbSBBRzEfMB0GA1UECxMWVC1UZWxlU2VjIFRydXN0IENlbnRl cjEjMCEGA1UEAxMaRGV1dHNjaGUgVGVsZWtvbSBSb290IENBIDIwHhcNMTQwNzIyMTIwODI2WhcN MTkwNzA5MjM1OTAwWjBaMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTETMBEGA1UEChMKREZOLVZlcmVpbjEQMA4GA1UE CxMHREZOLVBLSTEkMCIGA1UEAxMbREZOLVZlcmVpbiBQQ0EgR2xvYmFsIC0gRzAxMIIBIjANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA6ZvDZ4X5Da71jVTDllA1PWLpbkztlNcAW5UidNQg6zSP 1uzAMQQLmYHiphTSUqAoI4SLdIkEXlvg4njBeMsWyyg1OXstkEXQ7aAAeny/Sg4bAMOG6VwrMRF7 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(dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 18 Nov 2018 13:16:55 -0000 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML From: Dennis Clarke Subject: FreeBSD 12.0RC1 desperately slow Message-ID: <9cd40cca-72c6-7394-48b4-c2101c812c9d@blastwave.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:16:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5F9FF7D694 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.61)[0.609,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[40.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:17:03 -0000 I am seeing nearly 1980's type speeds : eris# uname -a FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc eris# eris# /usr/bin/time -p /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch extract . . . Building new INDEX files... done. real 4181.61 user 306.68 sys 2917.95 eris# dmesg says : ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-7 SATA 1.x device ada0: Serial Number KRVN23ZAHA5DBD ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors) However performance in just about any trivial test is very very very bad. Three "very" on purpose. Better than serial interface speeds and even better than old SCO ODT3 UNIX running with tape based swap. However this is just like being back in mid 1980's on MFM/RLL disks : eris# uname -a FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc eris# eris# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=8192 count=1048576 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 8589934592 bytes transferred in 498.075845 secs (17246238 bytes/sec) real 498.11 user 0.99 sys 260.24 eris# A small x86 boxen machine nearby says : titan# titan# uname -a FreeBSD titan 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC amd64 titan# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=8192 count=1048576 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 8589934592 bytes transferred in 116.799755 secs (73544115 bytes/sec) real 116.80 user 0.40 sys 115.80 titan# and ye old Solaris SPARC crate : node000 $ uname -a SunOS node000 5.10 Generic_150400-61 sun4u sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise node000 $ /usr/bin/time -p dd if=/dev/urandom of=random_8GB.dat bs=8192 count=1048576 0+1048576 records in 0+1048576 records out real 161.95 user 1.01 sys 159.46 Sure /dev/urandom should be fed as fast as the system can make up numbers from whatever noise sources it has but even a trivial copy of that 8GB file is terribly slow. eris# /usr/bin/time -p cp -p random_8GB.dat /home/dclarke/ real 727.43 user 0.05 sys 46.81 eris# eris# echo "8k 8589934592 727.43 / pq" | dc 11808606.45285457 So maybe 10 or 11MB/sec on the filesystem. Would love ZFS but this is UFS here. However I am running with kern.smp.disable=1 but that can't account for this mess .. could it ? Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 13:17:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5201101B27 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob14.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob14.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521C07D6A3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail02pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.36]) by atl4mhob14.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAIDHlBG013014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:17:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 4002 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2018 13:17:47 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 18 Nov 2018 13:17:47 -0000 Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user To: Michael Tuexen Cc: Michael Tuexen , FreeBSD PowerPC ML References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> <0C021CC4-6C1C-4A75-B2D6-D4CEE92CBD10@fh-muenster.de> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:17:46 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0C021CC4-6C1C-4A75-B2D6-D4CEE92CBD10@fh-muenster.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 521C07D6A3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.39)[0.393,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[52.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:17:55 -0000 > Just checkout the code in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/ via svn. > This is where development happens. cool. > I'm building kernel/world on the PowerMac... Must be a doc somewhere that gives pointers on how to get that going? >> >>> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >>> gets them down again. After a while they will start to get >>> louder again. >> >> Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. > OK. Which PowerMac are you using? > dmesg says : cpu0: IBM PowerPC 970MP revision 1.1, 18446744071914.97 MHz cpu0: Features dc000000 cpu0: HID0 1511081 real memory = 2108362752 (2010 MB) avail memory = 2012155904 (1918 MB) random: unblocking device. random: entropy device external interface kbd0 at kbdmux0 ofwbus0: on nexus0 cpulist0: on ofwbus0 cpu0: on cpulist0 pcr0: on cpu0 cpu1: on cpulist0 pcr1: on cpu1 cpu2: on cpulist0 pcr2: on cpu2 cpu3: on cpulist0 pcr3: on cpu3 So I guess this is what the Apple folks called the "quad". 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(dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 18 Nov 2018 13:40:01 -0000 Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> <0C021CC4-6C1C-4A75-B2D6-D4CEE92CBD10@fh-muenster.de> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:40:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 462867E218 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.55)[0.548,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[47.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:40:16 -0000 On 11/18/18 8:17 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> Just checkout the code in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/ via svn. >> This is where development happens. > > cool. > >> I'm building kernel/world on the PowerMac... > > Must be a doc somewhere that gives pointers on how to get that going? got it https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/Makefile?revision=340328&view=co I'll take a stab at it on something not crippling slow. Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 15:07:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9213C1104CBA for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuexen@fh-muenster.de) Received: from drew.franken.de (mail-n.franken.de [193.175.24.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.franken.de", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B89EE8251C for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuexen@fh-muenster.de) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (p57BB4979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.187.73.121]) (Authenticated sender: macmic) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7948D721E2821; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:07:35 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Tuexen Message-Id: <23BA8EF2-B0DD-4A85-81CB-67FCE758C911@fh-muenster.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_956B68C5-20AD-47AE-8021-BCAEE167EE74"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.0RC1 desperately slow Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:07:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9cd40cca-72c6-7394-48b4-c2101c812c9d@blastwave.org> Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML To: Dennis Clarke References: <9cd40cca-72c6-7394-48b4-c2101c812c9d@blastwave.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail-n.franken.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B89EE8251C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fh-muenster.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.fh-muenster.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.05)[-0.052,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[27.24.175.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[asn: 680(-0.07), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:680, ipnet:193.174.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:07:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_956B68C5-20AD-47AE-8021-BCAEE167EE74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 18. Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dennis Clarke = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am seeing nearly 1980's type speeds : >=20 >=20 > eris# uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc > eris# >=20 > eris# /usr/bin/time -p /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch extract > . > . > . > Building new INDEX files... done. > real 4181.61 > user 306.68 > sys 2917.95 > eris# >=20 >=20 > dmesg says : >=20 > ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-7 SATA 1.x device > ada0: Serial Number KRVN23ZAHA5DBD > ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors) >=20 > However performance in just about any trivial test is very very very > bad. Three "very" on purpose. Better than serial interface speeds and > even better than old SCO ODT3 UNIX running with tape based swap. = However > this is just like being back in mid 1980's on MFM/RLL disks : >=20 > eris# uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc > eris# > eris# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom = of=3D/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 1048576+0 records in > 1048576+0 records out > 8589934592 bytes transferred in 498.075845 secs (17246238 bytes/sec) > real 498.11 > user 0.99 > sys 260.24 > eris# >=20 >=20 > A small x86 boxen machine nearby says : >=20 > titan# > titan# uname -a > FreeBSD titan 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC amd64 > titan# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom = of=3D/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 1048576+0 records in > 1048576+0 records out > 8589934592 bytes transferred in 116.799755 secs (73544115 bytes/sec) > real 116.80 > user 0.40 > sys 115.80 > titan# >=20 >=20 > and ye old Solaris SPARC crate : >=20 > node000 $ uname -a > SunOS node000 5.10 Generic_150400-61 sun4u sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise > node000 $ /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3Drandom_8GB.dat = bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 0+1048576 records in > 0+1048576 records out >=20 > real 161.95 > user 1.01 > sys 159.46 Hmm. I don't think comparing /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch extract with dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3Drandom_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 is comparing apples to apples... >=20 >=20 > Sure /dev/urandom should be fed as fast as the system can make up > numbers from whatever noise sources it has but even a trivial copy > of that 8GB file is terribly slow. >=20 > eris# /usr/bin/time -p cp -p random_8GB.dat /home/dclarke/ > real 727.43 > user 0.05 > sys 46.81 > eris# >=20 > eris# echo "8k 8589934592 727.43 / pq" | dc > 11808606.45285457 >=20 > So maybe 10 or 11MB/sec on the filesystem. > Would love ZFS but this is UFS here. >=20 > However I am running with kern.smp.disable=3D1 but that can't account = for > this mess .. could it ? I don't think so. 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\(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:09:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Michael Tuexen , FreeBSD PowerPC ML To: Dennis Clarke References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> <0C021CC4-6C1C-4A75-B2D6-D4CEE92CBD10@fh-muenster.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail-n.franken.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 90B2182574 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[27.24.175.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fh-muenster.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; 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Nov 2018, at 14:17, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > >> Just checkout the code in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/ via svn. >> This is where development happens. > > cool. > >> I'm building kernel/world on the PowerMac... > > Must be a doc somewhere that gives pointers on how to get that going? > >>> >>>> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >>>> gets them down again. After a while they will start to get >>>> louder again. >>> >>> Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. >> OK. Which PowerMac are you using? > > dmesg says : > > cpu0: IBM PowerPC 970MP revision 1.1, 18446744071914.97 MHz > cpu0: Features dc000000 > cpu0: HID0 1511081 > real memory = 2108362752 (2010 MB) > avail memory = 2012155904 (1918 MB) > random: unblocking device. > random: entropy device external interface > kbd0 at kbdmux0 > ofwbus0: on nexus0 > cpulist0: on ofwbus0 > cpu0: on cpulist0 > pcr0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on cpulist0 > pcr1: on cpu1 > cpu2: on cpulist0 > pcr2: on cpu2 > cpu3: on cpulist0 > pcr3: on cpu3 > > > So I guess this is what the Apple folks called the "quad". OK. Just to double check: The problem with the fans getting louder is something you do not observe when SMP is enabled? If SMP is disabled I don't see this problem... That is why I suggested to disable SMP... 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<9cd40cca-72c6-7394-48b4-c2101c812c9d@blastwave.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:41:24 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9cd40cca-72c6-7394-48b4-c2101c812c9d@blastwave.org> To: Dennis Clarke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3AD666AA88 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.72)[0.725,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.91)[0.908,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[83.189.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(1.56)[ip: (4.52), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.87), asn: 36646(1.50), country: US(-0.09)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_NEUTRAL(0.00)[83.189.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.13] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 18:41:33 -0000 On 2018-Nov-18, at 05:16, Dennis Clarke = wrote: > I am seeing nearly 1980's type speeds : >=20 >=20 > eris# uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc > eris# >=20 > eris# /usr/bin/time -p /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch extract > . > . > . > Building new INDEX files... done. > real 4181.61 > user 306.68 > sys 2917.95 > eris# >=20 >=20 > dmesg says : >=20 > ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-7 SATA 1.x device > ada0: Serial Number KRVN23ZAHA5DBD > ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors) >=20 > However performance in just about any trivial test is very very very > bad. Three "very" on purpose. Better than serial interface speeds and > even better than old SCO ODT3 UNIX running with tape based swap. = However > this is just like being back in mid 1980's on MFM/RLL disks : >=20 > eris# uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc > eris# > eris# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom = of=3D/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 1048576+0 records in > 1048576+0 records out > 8589934592 bytes transferred in 498.075845 secs (17246238 bytes/sec) > real 498.11 > user 0.99 > sys 260.24 > eris# For comparison: for head based on -r339076 on a G5 Quad Core (system total core count), 16 GiBytes RAM, SSD file system, SMP enabled (so Justin's change has been reverted): # /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3D/var/tmp/random_8GB.dat = bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 8589934592 bytes transferred in 206.345413 secs (41628910 bytes/sec) real 206.35 user 1.03 sys 201.34 # uname -apKU FreeBSD FBSDG5L 12.0-ALPHA8 FreeBSD 12.0-ALPHA8 #4 r339076M: Mon Oct 15 = 13:19:35 PDT 2018 = markmi@FBSDG5L:/usr/obj/powerpc64vtsc_xtoolchain-gcc/powerpc.powerpc64/usr= /src/powerpc.powerpc64/sys/GENERIC64vtsc-NODBG powerpc powerpc64 = 1200084 1200084 The old SSD vs. old hardrive transfer rate differences might not be all that surprising. > A small x86 boxen machine nearby says : >=20 > titan# > titan# uname -a > FreeBSD titan 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC amd64 > titan# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom = of=3D/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 1048576+0 records in > 1048576+0 records out > 8589934592 bytes transferred in 116.799755 secs (73544115 bytes/sec) > real 116.80 > user 0.40 > sys 115.80 > titan# >=20 >=20 > and ye old Solaris SPARC crate : >=20 > node000 $ uname -a > SunOS node000 5.10 Generic_150400-61 sun4u sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise > node000 $ /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3Drandom_8GB.dat = bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 0+1048576 records in > 0+1048576 records out >=20 > real 161.95 > user 1.01 > sys 159.46 >=20 >=20 > Sure /dev/urandom should be fed as fast as the system can make up > numbers from whatever noise sources it has but even a trivial copy > of that 8GB file is terribly slow. >=20 > eris# /usr/bin/time -p cp -p random_8GB.dat /home/dclarke/ > real 727.43 > user 0.05 > sys 46.81 > eris# >=20 > eris# echo "8k 8589934592 727.43 / pq" | dc > 11808606.45285457 >=20 > So maybe 10 or 11MB/sec on the filesystem. > Would love ZFS but this is UFS here. >=20 > However I am running with kern.smp.disable=3D1 but that can't account = for > this mess .. could it ? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 20:43:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4945112124D for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic311-22.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic311-22.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 110416FAAA for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: fMAF3wUVM1lsKTnOtMchFPyqf2pFwsHuS9Vbo9Qh.e0.AjrlrbXdHpkd_BI8mnT qziZ__OmbsNbQJhsqXZQJIzR4hycgIA97ozyQTwlTeJYATb1hwMeEpfrGxNa.Kr1UEbAFvIwybUc xlQw7AEkCzNw1EttgHAHclGl2FPDqfxO.EFwpCtkC2GKXWzZq4M2la_kYe8go0gYCJbsXnSj_TUb rE4LIE_PhHV4F2btVA04LI10Vf_5K28nELL1Kzza8nNwFvuM6VpiCzU8HkcQabm0WVuI0kNqoMOo OcdHMRU5.OTW9C9EAVU0xaN72RiqA0ByApbmdSrTd8pIpxb9BY7gkJsuk2VQVKQ0Q1bHmgm1Rhn4 XO01AzFGrPbeNVFFNYkncqBZtKXt_NFcaHUMMoiIia5ZiB9vRC83OdIw5qtT5BgDs1EMzKaAjiob 4kEMUuDuGqtZbk.nANs3ndLtWTeQNpEZDzoqAitYbjePGvdcZ3IKKA8omcT1D1GtG1QcEbLPVry8 JvNmY.Zzvwoz5Mz8kQ0zxI3w6n3BmZFaQk5yEaW08hhmgNKrm_wU8ieWRA.7IL6QVq71AGdfZfQ7 fuRM7DvDH1fHJwjfGclJS72aNDXyV6r4UWMnjFSdzo0Z_NBx2abygkm8jtQGOMzIH1tMRbavtQHL 5IEg4hV3jNR7HVx2mAa4gArG9DO8Jr_gAVPtb7vBRVMCkf_Q_8EAV53IGun3P0L6Zy3adOcoRvNx t.BGZmQkdrVLrIJRqj7MKMQWQM99Ch6QtuW37K5HBxsMfHhdsqKRR.4NYJXDZZczsBbsPLqSAiSQ fyM69sx7PQu.tTjYe1YD3IMlxGjF8wx0F2gzSZt0GuEmvDs9owIW4YjBnMSIJ2hp4f45v3rPcprn .TehipzzcUteQZAsIpt5VHunkNl8.4U6LycWdUWccYlNRRxNeVYoQib2oc6R9lCoLqlXK63DSecA k6Rzn3ODOeQQSS.DqnkQbI.8RvcCUUNTHJkNCzFv5Ix59M3Zzsp84ZJ_E_lFMGTM8VIQvvA9ttoY vXjAX9pfQPXvF5_3BwhfyOURPsJxTOrhVLCrMsROVNflpKfvKOtJbBaMKXrA- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:42:57 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.25]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fbee8744c12f3d38c4a610811118e725; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.0RC1 desperately slow From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 12:42:51 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5948241B-D3D9-4467-BA19-6063FFDFF7C6@yahoo.com> References: <9cd40cca-72c6-7394-48b4-c2101c812c9d@blastwave.org> To: Dennis Clarke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 110416FAAA X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.77)[-0.769,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.46)[0.462,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[203.65.137.98.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ipnet: 98.137.64.0/21(0.77), asn: 36647(0.61), country: US(-0.09)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:43:00 -0000 [I should have mentioned: non-debug kernel, buildworld and buildkernel using devel/powerpc64-xtoolchain-gcc materials instead of gcc 4.2.1 . I add another comparison.] On 2018-Nov-18, at 10:41, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2018-Nov-18, at 05:16, Dennis Clarke = wrote: >=20 >> I am seeing nearly 1980's type speeds : >>=20 >>=20 >> eris# uname -a >> FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc >> eris# >>=20 >> eris# /usr/bin/time -p /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch extract >> . >> . >> . >> Building new INDEX files... done. >> real 4181.61 >> user 306.68 >> sys 2917.95 >> eris# >>=20 >>=20 >> dmesg says : >>=20 >> ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 >> ada0: ATA-7 SATA 1.x device >> ada0: Serial Number KRVN23ZAHA5DBD >> ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) >> ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors) >>=20 >> However performance in just about any trivial test is very very very >> bad. Three "very" on purpose. Better than serial interface speeds = and >> even better than old SCO ODT3 UNIX running with tape based swap. = However >> this is just like being back in mid 1980's on MFM/RLL disks : >>=20 >> eris# uname -a >> FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc >> eris# >> eris# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom = of=3D/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 >> 1048576+0 records in >> 1048576+0 records out >> 8589934592 bytes transferred in 498.075845 secs (17246238 bytes/sec) >> real 498.11 >> user 0.99 >> sys 260.24 >> eris# >=20 >=20 > For comparison: for head based on -r339076 on a G5 Quad Core (system > total core count), 16 GiBytes RAM, SSD file system, SMP enabled (so > Justin's change has been reverted): >=20 > # /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3D/var/tmp/random_8GB.dat = bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 > 1048576+0 records in > 1048576+0 records out > 8589934592 bytes transferred in 206.345413 secs (41628910 bytes/sec) > real 206.35 > user 1.03 > sys 201.34 >=20 > # uname -apKU > FreeBSD FBSDG5L 12.0-ALPHA8 FreeBSD 12.0-ALPHA8 #4 r339076M: Mon Oct = 15 13:19:35 PDT 2018 = markmi@FBSDG5L:/usr/obj/powerpc64vtsc_xtoolchain-gcc/powerpc.powerpc64/usr= /src/powerpc.powerpc64/sys/GENERIC64vtsc-NODBG powerpc powerpc64 = 1200084 1200084 >=20 > The old SSD vs. old hardrive transfer rate differences might not > be all that surprising. I should have mentioned: non-debug kernel, buildworld and buildkernel using devel/powerpc64-xtoolchain-gcc materials instead of gcc 4.2.1 and its toolchain. [I'll note that such experiments with alternate toolchains end up with some aspects that do not work right, even if things build. (I sometimes experiment in this area for more modern compilers/toolchains.)] I'll also provide one more item for comparison/contrast to help isolate processor bottlenecks from I/O ones: # /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/var/tmp/zero_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 = count=3D1048576 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 8589934592 bytes transferred in 85.941324 secs (99951155 bytes/sec) real 85.95 user 0.92 sys 30.48 So, in my context it looks like /dev/urandom use is the bottleneck when it is in use for the dd. But it still does around 40 MByte/s for storage I/O with /dev/urandom --instead of around 17 MByte/s. For reference, using the dd with /dev/urandom I see things like the following for the top cpu usage: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES SWAP STATE C TIME = CPU COMMAND 11 root 4 155 ki31 0 128K 0 RUN 0 1503.4 = 283.49% [idle] 49063 root 1 101 0 12M 2804K 0 CPU3 3 0:33 = 94.77% dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3D/var/tmp/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 = count=3D1048576 12 root 22 -56 - 0 704K 0 WAIT -1 159:20 = 6.87% [intr] 2 root 2 -16 - 0 64K 0 - 0 5:17 = 5.81% [cam] 0 root 23 -16 - 0 736K 0 swapin 1 1:53 = 5.72% [kernel] 18 root 5 20 - 0 160K 0 qsleep 0 3:05 = 1.72% [bufdaemon] 21 root 1 -16 - 0 32K 0 smu 3 179:44 = 1.33% [pmac_thermal] 5 root 1 -16 - 0 32K 0 - 0 1:59 = 0.16% [rand_harvestq] . . . >> A small x86 boxen machine nearby says : >>=20 >> titan# >> titan# uname -a >> FreeBSD titan 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC amd64 >> titan# /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom = of=3D/var/tmp/root/random_8GB.dat bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 >> 1048576+0 records in >> 1048576+0 records out >> 8589934592 bytes transferred in 116.799755 secs (73544115 bytes/sec) >> real 116.80 >> user 0.40 >> sys 115.80 >> titan# >>=20 >>=20 >> and ye old Solaris SPARC crate : >>=20 >> node000 $ uname -a >> SunOS node000 5.10 Generic_150400-61 sun4u sparc = SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise >> node000 $ /usr/bin/time -p dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3Drandom_8GB.dat = bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 >> 0+1048576 records in >> 0+1048576 records out >>=20 >> real 161.95 >> user 1.01 >> sys 159.46 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sure /dev/urandom should be fed as fast as the system can make up >> numbers from whatever noise sources it has but even a trivial copy >> of that 8GB file is terribly slow. >>=20 >> eris# /usr/bin/time -p cp -p random_8GB.dat /home/dclarke/ >> real 727.43 >> user 0.05 >> sys 46.81 >> eris# >>=20 >> eris# echo "8k 8589934592 727.43 / pq" | dc >> 11808606.45285457 >>=20 >> So maybe 10 or 11MB/sec on the filesystem. >> Would love ZFS but this is UFS here. >>=20 >> However I am running with kern.smp.disable=3D1 but that can't account = for >> this mess .. could it ? 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I have error in kernel build.=0A=0AI = use 13-CURRENT code.=0A=0A=0Acc --sysroot=3D/usr/home/hiroki/zobj/usr/home/= hiroki/ZRouter/tmp/usr/home/hiroki/f=0Areebsd/powerpc.powerpc/tmp -B/usr/ho= me/hiroki/zobj/usr/home/hiroki/ZRouter/tmp/u=0Asr/home/hiroki/freebsd/power= pc.powerpc/tmp/usr/bin -c -O -pipe=A0=A0 -nostdinc=A0 -I. =0A-I/usr/home/hi= roki/freebsd/sys -I/usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/contrib/ck/include=0A=A0-I/= usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_H= E=0AADERS -include opt_global.h=A0=A0 -msoft-float -fPIC -fno-omit-frame-po= inter -MD=A0 -M=0AF.depend.pmap.o -MTpmap.o -mno-altivec -msoft-float -ffre= estanding -fwrapv -fsta=0Ack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-ext= erns -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmiss=0Aing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qua= l -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-ex=0Atensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -= fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas -=0AWno-uninitialized=A0 -fno= -common -fms-extensions -finline-limit=3D15000 --param inli=0Ane-unit-growt= h=3D100 --param large-function-growth=3D1000 -fms-extensions -Wa,-many =0A= =A0-std=3Diso9899:1999 -Werror=A0 /usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/book= e/pmap.c=0Acc1: warnings being treated as errors=0A/usr/home/hiroki/freebsd= /sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c: In function 'mmu_booke_mapdev=0A_attr':=0A/usr/h= ome/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c:3620: warning: format '%lx' ex= =0Apects type 'long unsigned int', but argument 2 has type 'uintptr_t' [-Wf= ormat]=0A/usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c:3620: warning: f= ormat '%lx' ex=0Apects type 'long unsigned int', but argument 4 has type 'v= m_size_t' [-Wformat]=0A*** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 12:49:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5FE1102AE2 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D2474349 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42z7tz6QVgz1ftWT for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:48:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermex.mcs.it (unknown [192.168.132.214]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42z7tz5gL5z1ftWX for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:48:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermex.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC054D388 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:48:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:50:43 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Keeping Freebsd 11.2 PPC up to date X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <42z7tz5gL5z1ftWX@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D8D2474349 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.09)[-0.089,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.45.144.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vespaperitivo.it]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[baobab.bilink.it]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.144.45.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.753,0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: IT(0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8816, ipnet:212.45.128.0/19, country:IT] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:49:08 -0000 Hello, I'm about to put a freebsd server in production. I've installed 11.2-RELEASE from cd. I would like to know how am I supposed to keep it up-to-date, at least security wise: "svn info /usr/src" issues: svn: E155007: '/usr/src' is not a working copy Thanks to all in advance, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. 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I have error in kernel build. >=20 > I use 13-CURRENT code. >=20 >=20 > cc > --sysroot=3D/usr/home/hiroki/zobj/usr/home/hiroki/ZRouter/tmp/usr/home/hi= roki/f > reebsd/powerpc.powerpc/tmp > -B/usr/home/hiroki/zobj/usr/home/hiroki/ZRouter/tmp/u > sr/home/hiroki/freebsd/powerpc.powerpc/tmp/usr/bin -c -O -pipe > -nostdinc=C2=A0 -I. -I/usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys > -I/usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/contrib/ck/include > -I/usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HE ADERS -include opt_global.h=C2=A0=C2=A0 -msoft-fl= oat > -fPIC -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MD=C2=A0 -M F.depend.pmap.o -MTpmap.o > -mno-altivec -msoft-float -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fsta ck-protector > -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmiss > ing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > -fformat-ex tensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option > -Wno-unknown-pragmas - Wno-uninitialized=C2=A0 -fno-common -fms-extensions > -finline-limit=3D15000 --param inli ne-unit-growth=3D100 --param > large-function-growth=3D1000 -fms-extensions -Wa,-many > -std=3Diso9899:1999 > -Werror=C2=A0 /usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c cc1: > warnings being treated as > errors /usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c: In function > 'mmu_booke_mapdev > _attr': /usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c:3620: > warning: format '%lx' ex pects type 'long unsigned int', but argument > 2 has type > 'uintptr_t' [-Wformat] /usr/home/hiroki/freebsd/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c:= 3620: > warning: format '%lx' ex pects type 'long unsigned int', but argument > 4 has type 'vm_size_t' [-Wformat] *** Error code 1 Did you first make kernel-toolchain or make buildworld, for this? I'm assuming you're using either MPC85XX, MPC85XXSPE or QORIQ64 as the kernel. Which target are you using: powerpc, powerpcspe, or powerpc64? - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 16:05:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C877311080B7 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob20.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob20.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BE97C682 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.35]) by atl4mhob20.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAJG5j9j030064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:05:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 11232 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2018 16:05:45 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 19 Nov 2018 16:05:45 -0000 Subject: Re: compile error To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <225465.32269.qm@web103913.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> <20181119094615.6779f79d@ralga.knownspace> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: <7fe0ac0d-5dc9-4c36-665d-3919fb60a86e@blastwave.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:05:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181119094615.6779f79d@ralga.knownspace> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 16BE97C682 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.62)[0.617,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[114.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.49)[0.493,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:05:57 -0000 On 11/19/18 10:46 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > Did you first make kernel-toolchain or make buildworld, for this? I'm > assuming you're using either MPC85XX, MPC85XXSPE or QORIQ64 as the > kernel. Which target are you using: powerpc, powerpcspe, or powerpc64? > Is this sort of stepwise knowledge documented ? I see here : https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html So this "kernel-toolchain" is not there at all. I am speaking out of turn given that I have yet to see my own little ppc64 experiment build a kernel yet and in fact it has been working slowly on gdb-8.2 from ports for nearly twenty hours. I expect to get around to building current sometime later today and it would ne nice to know what little secrets are hidden from the online docs. The gcc build docs are about the same so maybe just experience and experiments are needed to determine a stable path to building current. 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[173.25.245.129]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f133-v6sm14524094itf.10.2018.11.19.08.12.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:12:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:12:13 -0600 From: Justin Hibbits To: Dennis Clarke Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile error Message-ID: <20181119101213.3fc9a86c@ralga.knownspace> In-Reply-To: <7fe0ac0d-5dc9-4c36-665d-3919fb60a86e@blastwave.org> References: <225465.32269.qm@web103913.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> <20181119094615.6779f79d@ralga.knownspace> <7fe0ac0d-5dc9-4c36-665d-3919fb60a86e@blastwave.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 81CBC7CEEB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.902,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.84)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.44), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:12:18 -0000 On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:05:44 -0500 Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 11/19/18 10:46 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > > > Did you first make kernel-toolchain or make buildworld, for this? > > I'm assuming you're using either MPC85XX, MPC85XXSPE or QORIQ64 as > > the kernel. Which target are you using: powerpc, powerpcspe, or > > powerpc64? > > Is this sort of stepwise knowledge documented ? > > I see here : > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > > So this "kernel-toolchain" is not there at all. I am speaking out of > turn given that I have yet to see my own little ppc64 experiment build > a kernel yet and in fact it has been working slowly on gdb-8.2 from > ports for nearly twenty hours. I expect to get around to building > current sometime later today and it would ne nice to know what little > secrets are hidden from the online docs. The gcc build docs are about > the same so maybe just experience and experiments are needed to > determine a stable path to building current. > > Dennis "make buildworld" will build the toolchain. 'make kernel-toolchain' is the minimal subset of world required to build the kernel. If "make buildworld" is run, that's more than sufficient. - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 16:17:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739631108992 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhfb01.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhfb01.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2C977D196 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob22.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob22.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.116]) by atl4mhfb01.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAJGHfaJ012922 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:17:41 -0500 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.35]) by atl4mhob22.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAJGHXd1135867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:17:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 36612 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2018 16:17:33 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 19 Nov 2018 16:17:33 -0000 Subject: Re: compile error To: Justin Hibbits Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <225465.32269.qm@web103913.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> <20181119094615.6779f79d@ralga.knownspace> <7fe0ac0d-5dc9-4c36-665d-3919fb60a86e@blastwave.org> <20181119101213.3fc9a86c@ralga.knownspace> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:17:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181119101213.3fc9a86c@ralga.knownspace> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D2C977D196 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.48 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.34)[0.336,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.268,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[55.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:17:50 -0000 On 11/19/18 11:12 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:05:44 -0500 > Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> On 11/19/18 10:46 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: >> >>> Did you first make kernel-toolchain or make buildworld, for this? >>> I'm assuming you're using either MPC85XX, MPC85XXSPE or QORIQ64 as >>> the kernel. Which target are you using: powerpc, powerpcspe, or >>> powerpc64? >> >> Is this sort of stepwise knowledge documented ? >> >> I see here : >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html >> >> So this "kernel-toolchain" is not there at all. I am speaking out of >> turn given that I have yet to see my own little ppc64 experiment build >> a kernel yet and in fact it has been working slowly on gdb-8.2 from >> ports for nearly twenty hours. I expect to get around to building >> current sometime later today and it would ne nice to know what little >> secrets are hidden from the online docs. The gcc build docs are about >> the same so maybe just experience and experiments are needed to >> determine a stable path to building current. >> >> Dennis > > "make buildworld" will build the toolchain. 'make kernel-toolchain' is > the minimal subset of world required to build the kernel. If "make > buildworld" is run, that's more than sufficient. Thank you for that :-) Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 17:09:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BC51109FB4 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 708C87FC20; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 5DC6B1FB8C; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:52 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Luciano Mannucci Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Keeping Freebsd 11.2 PPC up to date Message-ID: <20181119170952.GA63177@FreeBSD.org> References: <42z7tz5gL5z1ftWX@baobab.bilink.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42z7tz5gL5z1ftWX@baobab.bilink.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 708C87FC20 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.76 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.40)[0.400,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.36)[0.356,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:53 -0000 On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:50:43PM +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > I'm about to put a freebsd server in production. I've installed > 11.2-RELEASE from cd. I would like to know how am I supposed to > keep it up-to-date, at least security wise: "svn info /usr/src" > issues: > > svn: E155007: '/usr/src' is not a working copy That's probably because you've selected "src" distset to be unpacked during the installation. Don't do that, instead, check it out with svnline(1) if you plan to track it and/or build world from it: svnline co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/ /usr/src Alternatively, you might want to chase binary updates; in this case, refer to freebsd-update(8). ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 17:18:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122EC110D58E for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it1-x141.google.com (mail-it1-x141.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DC3C804F5; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it1-x141.google.com with SMTP id c9so8602849itj.1; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lIkuKftRd3Nh45bLkPTxA/cIN/+shzXHnY0C2KdViro=; b=ZkbMmYUXLyDYRZ8/BZUyqehKEII35JPg9vOWH+mKohxHmb8cIg765f+xW/5+M/lKM2 4PtWKYOYAS0SjMOD2qwbnXiw/lnxUPe2oE/oP+lcs+/mKPgNBEe03XSHW45Fvlf7CRH+ Bi1XK+NK9tjm1RsCiZq1zC6yJFqF6xt9e7FeBg4zoUw62sZgEwZvI7SUUYSXabOxa1m6 z/22eoqto/6RBG4vWlpdna77UPACTX9sTq62E2T2bs0eT+HPy5eIuq7DjbbtbEkpMzy1 6/6N4MaNNDgjtF1+goWjR8OpJRoIjxLs4E4mczLk8CMvPmQiOP8CeirF5geyCEjNXyAL jw5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lIkuKftRd3Nh45bLkPTxA/cIN/+shzXHnY0C2KdViro=; b=eifAWn28SzavRRpctUori8IRN6aZr77jkklM/ye8Swh0UEyxgKuc/0Pv5UFdrcJ9vv uNkcwlaclzMsg1xjMVOpEy/x/Gw+QA+RRvY4oV/8NDFbGF4m5m7uMNqV5TI3Py9icULt OEoDmF48RE0NHvyOmbsa+3D8NJykQe5Wx9d27U4v25Xho8DvdUWIR07GAyiUpJoLs/DB QbS4qGMLXQzMzo9ff9HvI7Xa+74rHcEqHOKQafp/HcMYDV4pe6XWbbOiXaA7YomWFWrU W2SCDazHi6ujet+7LI0udoyADSgqjybNpJVq6FNTfxDylkfak5HR01Df4wl0h2+5xLAz EIdA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJLAiVzsnbXc6tVe650V4z2xu/R8fs1UKiDQrFRKPJIY/4F5SEx /6hZ8f2fid4InKWM/L5UKMIN1Mfo0I8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dRu/GIEgYh99ht7o64OPL1tUaPDfxV3vWcOYV9u/qzDVAUGSangAOgL7ptpHXFzJFa/0Rq2w== X-Received: by 2002:a02:5618:: with SMTP id o24mr2023507jab.111.1542647910282; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ralga.knownspace (173-25-245-129.client.mchsi.com. [173.25.245.129]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i9-v6sm13017538ioj.9.2018.11.19.09.18.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:18:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:18:21 -0600 From: Justin Hibbits To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Luciano Mannucci , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Keeping Freebsd 11.2 PPC up to date Message-ID: <20181119111821.4f4d576a@ralga.knownspace> In-Reply-To: <20181119170952.GA63177@FreeBSD.org> References: <42z7tz5gL5z1ftWX@baobab.bilink.it> <20181119170952.GA63177@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DC3C804F5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.951,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.54)[ip: (1.54), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.45), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:18:32 -0000 On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:52 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:50:43PM +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > I'm about to put a freebsd server in production. I've installed > > 11.2-RELEASE from cd. I would like to know how am I supposed to > > keep it up-to-date, at least security wise: "svn info /usr/src" > > issues: > > > > svn: E155007: '/usr/src' is not a working copy > > That's probably because you've selected "src" distset to be unpacked > during the installation. Don't do that, instead, check it out with > svnline(1) if you plan to track it and/or build world from it: > > svnline co > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/ /usr/src svnlite here :) > > Alternatively, you might want to chase binary updates; in this case, > refer to freebsd-update(8). > > ./danfe Unfortunately, freebsd-update doesn't work for powerpc, being Tier2 arch. - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 17:24:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59B9110D9B7 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EB9E80BCF; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 6885C4D4; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:24:00 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Justin Hibbits Cc: Luciano Mannucci , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Keeping Freebsd 11.2 PPC up to date Message-ID: <20181119172400.GB72353@FreeBSD.org> References: <42z7tz5gL5z1ftWX@baobab.bilink.it> <20181119170952.GA63177@FreeBSD.org> <20181119111821.4f4d576a@ralga.knownspace> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181119111821.4f4d576a@ralga.knownspace> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7EB9E80BCF X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.60 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.29)[0.295,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.31)[0.308,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:24:01 -0000 On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:18:21AM -0600, Justin Hibbits wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:09:52 +0000 > Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:50:43PM +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > > I'm about to put a freebsd server in production. I've installed > > > 11.2-RELEASE from cd. I would like to know how am I supposed to > > > keep it up-to-date, at least security wise: "svn info /usr/src" > > > issues: > > > > > > svn: E155007: '/usr/src' is not a working copy > > > > That's probably because you've selected "src" distset to be unpacked > > during the installation. Don't do that, instead, check it out with > > svnline(1) if you plan to track it and/or build world from it: > > > > svnline co > > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/ /usr/src > > svnlite here :) Holy shit, I've managed to mistype that twice! Really need to check what's going on with my brain/muscle memory! I also often mistype iconv(1) as "iconf" but that's probably due to plethora of conf[ig] stuff. > > Alternatively, you might want to chase binary updates; in this case, > > refer to freebsd-update(8). > > Unfortunately, freebsd-update doesn't work for powerpc, being Tier2 > arch. Oh, I didn't know that, that's quite sad. :( ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 17:42:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C1A110F26B for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3148199A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail02pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.36]) by atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAJHg1ZA007552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:42:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 35184 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2018 17:42:01 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 19 Nov 2018 17:42:01 -0000 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML From: Dennis Clarke Subject: further horrors .. this FreeBSD 12.0RC1 install is a 32-bit system Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:42:00 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8C3148199A X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.49)[0.485,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.23)[0.231,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:42:09 -0000 Having done an install from the dvd FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso I only now just ran into a trivial compile problem where I saw a message that -m64 option flag was not available on this platform. I never even bothered to check : eris$ eris$ uname -a FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc eris$ file /bin/ls /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, FreeBSD-style, for FreeBSD 12.0 (1200086), stripped eris$ Sure enough this looks to be an entirely 32-bit system. So this was a waste of my time and I have to start over. Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 17:52:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28467110F9DB for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic309-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic309-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22B9882A53 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: _BlD8XAVM1nawOZO3hy91Cm0PTbWJoechtMVH4M97BA0V05ePcY6pgGAI1yk_wU 8A3izpPrszX4X.qf2d.A5h6Ji3HyjoS9i9F22hSRXEoDfcOq6Yhtis75gPB4SBh_GP2xoBvI8apr WH2ujdMnBIRC2o1ef..U7QsRzBak9I27udi3.oFE6Nt5w39LeoC2TYPgCDDWiqAJ1e.7AJ8Nw0nG aForX.eohZ7LoC.qQkyojzw5_KT5La0cA6WHb7DFkKW1wCl413gFtIZOngy8F7nP_cP2_IkmLWB7 L7PP4Xu4baJtnFrRT997HwqFznUepmYC8IAHYYMI_b5znvfX9OmsjkEVyOsu4i97FzYpzsQuq8kl 1JlXGwzYORQ4qoNSfCLU4OKaQcqb0gdpvuvbeWU7KTOLpfGQAKBWT3aoAapTa0qVdYW5gEcX8zHn ABQ87FXCSl_1EsFmShbBAdnT0GIeQkapPo59wYSbn8VQ_EohIyeO5whjDAS3IV1qnRVk2VsQba.K TRym6oByrJdgC..KuMNlRxN3YNxWvA4kGMONO9LoMNK8X3n1WcI8owhQ7gil5ESFVLGhVoqrPPyD X8vlzDv2Oh_w1bGbh4YsTPfHopPyjsIDPmzDZjZlgUjzkQhl0Er8HzvQK9mlZ3oI0VqvCYjQ49wX k70BgciV3MHBb2C4l8DDr1qPKwytBeXfa.EEVCizzGfnJo10n0VP9Wq_3kxGpEk2KJ__Qzq0K0Lc w04bDRlxcd1AIUIPP_qtY_ZNhYJpZrhZqDDI8pv1JQPibAoOtDkfscI8S1hVqvmzQ_Ngte22OuSX .UQUaq_OM8UHOf7Y_EkNFMyPABLGWSjhWMQ.u12Py7wfykRZ8urw040Rpcb1.T_2ACfX4Ansos8L 7jLY.PTQ46aUjkhj0ilav8xUhKtMtry2ppUHluwGrN5iY8_dBOd4tqO0YR2M8DGOJwWOUiVPWlPa bgt4nOkHQ.O2.sRNCJXptutd15HvbT0YgbI2brlYMTD6MH.Q8moZywx6ONMYU.J2kzxnLdo1JshB BiaOPK9R3ZBOW6UxAg7GXejN54HydlnjB2aghr5vGL4I8cVLA6U.Anw7y_Er6 Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:52:22 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.25]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 187f10f6eb8813d14e3e86d71b6c1207; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: compile error From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:52:16 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <92740193-117C-41B7-A0F9-07E8A33B4FFB@yahoo.com> References: <225465.32269.qm@web103913.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> <20181119094615.6779f79d@ralga.knownspace> <7fe0ac0d-5dc9-4c36-665d-3919fb60a86e@blastwave.org> <20181119101213.3fc9a86c@ralga.knownspace> To: Dennis Clarke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 22B9882A53 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.792,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.961,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[147.184.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(1.38)[ip: (3.68), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.83), asn: 36646(1.46), country: US(-0.09)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:52:31 -0000 On 2018-Nov-19, at 08:17, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 11/19/18 11:12 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:05:44 -0500 >> Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> On 11/19/18 10:46 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: >>> >>>> Did you first make kernel-toolchain or make buildworld, for this? >>>> I'm assuming you're using either MPC85XX, MPC85XXSPE or QORIQ64 as >>>> the kernel. Which target are you using: powerpc, powerpcspe, or >>>> powerpc64? >>> >>> Is this sort of stepwise knowledge documented ? >>> >>> I see here : >>> >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html >>> >>> So this "kernel-toolchain" is not there at all. I am speaking out of >>> turn given that I have yet to see my own little ppc64 experiment build >>> a kernel yet and in fact it has been working slowly on gdb-8.2 from >>> ports for nearly twenty hours. I expect to get around to building >>> current sometime later today and it would ne nice to know what little >>> secrets are hidden from the online docs. The gcc build docs are about >>> the same so maybe just experience and experiments are needed to >>> determine a stable path to building current. >>> >>> Dennis >> "make buildworld" will build the toolchain. 'make kernel-toolchain' is >> the minimal subset of world required to build the kernel. If "make >> buildworld" is run, that's more than sufficient. > > Thank you for that :-) There is the "man build" or "man 7 build", shown as a web page at: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?build(7) It says, for example, kernel-toolchain Rebuild the tools needed for kernel compilation. Use this if you did not do a buildworld first. There is a popup for selecting what vintage/context of the page that the man button will get the page from. https://wiki.freebsd.org/EmbeddedHandbook has an example use, but does not talk theory for such. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 03:32:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EFC113C46C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 03:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob15.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob15.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7806B7768A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 03:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.35]) by atl4mhob15.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAK3Wo1q019236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:32:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 40185 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2018 03:32:50 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 20 Nov 2018 03:32:50 -0000 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML From: Dennis Clarke Subject: Where is the 64-bit ppc FreeBSD ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:32:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7806B7768A X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.37 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.69)[0.686,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.43)[0.434,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[53.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.274,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 03:32:58 -0000 Well I don't know how else to ask but where is the 64-bit ppc FreeBSD ? I just checked again and I did boot the dvd that I fetched from https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/ and what I get is a 32-bit system. The live dvd is 32-bit. The compiler can only produce 32-bit output and well here we are. So then, is there some magic to utter to the boot loader or something I am missing ? Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 04:19:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B89F113D73D for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 04:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x234.google.com (mail-lj1-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F00078D7F for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 04:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x234.google.com with SMTP id g11-v6so446668ljk.3 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 20:19:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alumni-cwru-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bS6ftp5KbZP3yfKj74PQ/whC5SQ5dYgMxJuOKxEmgh4=; b=OVBQMR7qoYCtJlz5dMKJOnESiW4DkB2okvgyQggZQvclFD3reD8K/j3zGWf6U197yI JfHhIwQAg+xnbCkuNaYKk1d7DHv5pcXwAkrg4so9weXIk8YtRX0PwSkwkZO3hiUVPYAm vENnL8VuOt0SD4wqCTRTas0lo28xYdJCT7pB0PWtza3f4/v55XhfcHhlxEAzEBfLR1zd jRYC+h3NLZE+t+eK/aVgbFGwbpqWZK7Vgja94Q4n7sWMzqVhP/UoOiQqkJ3sbBwh4d/1 wCOcqTTX9NCInm7XJ+0v3U7VFsmLIfCqy0gzr7EwF3w3OHLy/IXjOxXymv+wyi3iKwaK mixQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bS6ftp5KbZP3yfKj74PQ/whC5SQ5dYgMxJuOKxEmgh4=; b=DfIR1gpjvFHUFZ89ziXZid7wSx9rExE+5q7tHkg3GMySnFrta4Q8L4BN9ssdvWKBVh 4f3b+l68Lm7uuC1JSE0V4yj5O5je06ZQVQS2ndXzIUTGBdGC9r6M/wN1W9Mr7zCOLziX /fxaB5jYitCqC2mQiDuIC8g8umiGR5qpsJs7Hl2fQCAjJ2w+hkFxo0Ro9WPY8fRV8pw4 lIjGPJn2lWjYlQg3wROWlauttAO4V62X4nzSGmMscAoV/JfKtkO6MLvQzLnK+jEe07xq 2fFL3WBkHGUunXjS1SciL8ErRLZSujZ5oJswVVjSYgMFjWC/ehX5KXm/otGjP/3wF35d DZVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZBo8YZjDZ1rVgT9jAAbtv0pMZnC2k1wmWxbclwsJVmintVLnsV Io4LORZUqfx0iOAhnpNoE6bcD9jwK+5dj5oI+vK3jNwt X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XBq0XwWzeUyhlIYCSEo3QKs8YtdaF/VNRUWwzOA0zxw96i7rnRiPEuBaHunopNiK4oO1Wn6KsOLUcOSF401T8= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9e03:: with SMTP id e3-v6mr239164ljk.4.1542687543704; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 20:19:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Justin Hibbits Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:18:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Where is the 64-bit ppc FreeBSD ? To: Dennis Clarke Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3F00078D7F X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[alumni-cwru-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cwru.edu]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[alumni-cwru-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.870,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu,chmeeedalf@gmail.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu,chmeeedalf@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.63)[ip: (-9.74), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.66), asn: 15169(-1.65), country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 04:19:07 -0000 Hi Dennis, On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:33 PM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > Well I don't know how else to ask but where is the 64-bit ppc FreeBSD ? > > I just checked again and I did boot the dvd that I fetched from > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/ and what I > get is a 32-bit system. The live dvd is 32-bit. The compiler can only > produce 32-bit output and well here we are. > > So then, is there some magic to utter to the boot loader or something I > am missing ? > > Dennis I just downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso.xz and everything looked correct. Did you download the -powerpc-powerpc ISO by mistake? - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 04:58:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B9A113E3C0 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 04:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhfb01.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhfb01.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8A3F79D80 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 04:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.48]) by atl4mhfb01.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAK4wUS3016806 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:58:30 -0500 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail02pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.36]) by atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAK4wMl7024418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:58:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 6628 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2018 04:58:22 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 20 Nov 2018 04:58:21 -0000 Subject: Re: Where is the 64-bit ppc FreeBSD ? To: Justin Hibbits Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML References: From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: <970a52e9-0751-fb27-f969-8884fa6506f0@blastwave.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:58:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A8A3F79D80 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.83)[0.829,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.01)[0.012,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[55.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.06)[0.056,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 04:58:32 -0000 On 11/19/18 11:18 PM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:33 PM Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> >> Well I don't know how else to ask but where is the 64-bit ppc FreeBSD ? >> >> I just checked again and I did boot the dvd that I fetched from >> https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/ and what I >> get is a 32-bit system. The live dvd is 32-bit. The compiler can only >> produce 32-bit output and well here we are. >> >> So then, is there some magic to utter to the boot loader or something I >> am missing ? >> >> Dennis > > I just downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso.xz and > everything looked correct. Did you download the -powerpc-powerpc ISO > by mistake? Repeatedly I have gone through these motions and this would be a third time. Sadly I use the dvd burner inside the G5 to actually burn the DVD itself and I run a full surface blank first. It is DVD+RW media and I use Jörg Schilling's cdrecord from the sources and always build it myself. It never fails and after all he is the master of such things. So once again I will download the same dvd image and again do a full surface blank and a re-burn and then a boot. Is there anywhere on the dvd media that identifies what it is ? A file somewhere that says readme or similar ... what I see : root@eris:~ # uname -a FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc root@eris:~ # dmesg | egrep -i 'cd|dvd' cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI device cd0: Serial Number M0063NE3358 cd0: 66.700MB/s transfers (UDMA4, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: 4482MB (2295104 2048 byte sectors) root@eris:~ # root@eris:~ # camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0) at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass1) root@eris:~ # root@eris:~ # mkdir /media/dvd root@eris:~ # mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/cd0 /media/dvd root@eris:~ # ls -lap /media/dvd/ total 547 drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 6144 Nov 16 04:45 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 20 04:50 ../ -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 951 Nov 16 04:35 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 470 Nov 16 04:35 .profile drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Nov 16 04:34 .rr_moved/ -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6177 Nov 16 04:35 COPYRIGHT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6994 Nov 16 04:35 ERRATA.HTML -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3266 Nov 16 04:35 ERRATA.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 255886 Nov 16 04:35 HARDWARE.HTML -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 119849 Nov 16 04:35 HARDWARE.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 23899 Nov 16 04:35 README.HTML -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14333 Nov 16 04:35 README.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 20415 Nov 16 04:35 RELNOTES.HTML -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 8336 Nov 16 04:35 RELNOTES.TXT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 6144 Nov 16 04:33 bin/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root wheel 6144 Nov 16 04:35 boot/ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 dev/ -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6914 Nov 16 04:35 docbook.css drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 14336 Nov 16 04:45 etc/ drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 8192 Nov 16 04:34 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 libexec/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 media/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 mnt/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 net/ drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:45 packages/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:45 ppc/ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 proc/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 rescue/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:35 root/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 18432 Nov 16 04:35 sbin/ drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 tmp/ drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:35 usr/ drwxr-xr-x 24 root wheel 4096 Nov 16 04:33 var/ root@eris:~ # root@eris:~ # head /media/dvd/COPYRIGHT # $FreeBSD: releng/12.0/COPYRIGHT 333391 2018-05-09 02:02:49Z imp $ # @(#)COPYRIGHT 8.2 (Berkeley) 3/21/94 The compilation of software known as FreeBSD is distributed under the following terms: Copyright (c) 1992-2018 The FreeBSD Project. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions root@eris:~ # That is not helpful and neither is README.TXT. Has to be a file somewhere that says "release and version". In any case I can not tell what this dvd is and so I shall start over with a full surface blank and then a re-burn and a test of the live DVD. Thank you for putting up with my seemingly dumb questions but there is just so much knowledge about FreeBSD that isn't obvious and even with decades of UNIX and Linux experience I fall flat on my face over and over. Strangely I just keep plowing forwards with the goal here being to build the kernel myself and that includes the zfs.ko which is absent from the DVD. Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 07:34:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CB1103373 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic306-19.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic306-19.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91E607DF74 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: xV14vawVM1mAmYRP5LTTG6DL_9BCo_CS4y.NOSfm4HHDt.8eqppUyWYMgc.i.ht p5mq24JXcotXINeaaTVQqj7thNBqmqMw10wvMsp5zljB9509.ZYtjScCbkiOmjdF.lXT3VD1EG8c 0lMdk15WZ9aJ0G75kpVGnM9V4OVgAWeKleukT.esm2P1g_BlzEmhosEw7OiPax3AUiC_rMH2RNST rVpQYztSSnaXwwSQO5O862fe9uaHOrYMZsixk4MJW9MpkFn5zx3I2vMpGCwptAbedWlByx31yE9. 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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <970a52e9-0751-fb27-f969-8884fa6506f0@blastwave.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:34:06 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <970a52e9-0751-fb27-f969-8884fa6506f0@blastwave.org> To: Dennis Clarke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 91E607DF74 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.84 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.985,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(1.25)[ip: (5.01), ipnet: 98.137.64.0/21(0.74), asn: 36647(0.59), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.46)[0.464,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.65)[0.653,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[82.68.137.98.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:34:10 -0000 On 2018-Nov-19, at 20:58, Dennis Clarke = wrote: > On 11/19/18 11:18 PM, Justin Hibbits wrote: >> Hi Dennis, >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:33 PM Dennis Clarke = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Well I don't know how else to ask but where is the 64-bit ppc = FreeBSD ? >>>=20 >>> I just checked again and I did boot the dvd that I fetched from >>> https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/ and what = I >>> get is a 32-bit system. The live dvd is 32-bit. The compiler can = only >>> produce 32-bit output and well here we are. >>>=20 >>> So then, is there some magic to utter to the boot loader or = something I >>> am missing ? >>>=20 >>> Dennis >> I just downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso.xz and >> everything looked correct. Did you download the -powerpc-powerpc ISO >> by mistake? >=20 > Repeatedly I have gone through these motions and this would be a third > time. Sadly I use the dvd burner inside the G5 to actually burn the = DVD > itself and I run a full surface blank first. It is DVD+RW media and I > use J=C3=B6rg Schilling's cdrecord from the sources and always build = it > myself. It never fails and after all he is the master of such things. >=20 > So once again I will download the same dvd image and again do a full = surface blank and a re-burn and then a boot. >=20 > Is there anywhere on the dvd media that identifies what it is ? A = file somewhere that says readme or similar ... what I see : >=20 > root@eris:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc > root@eris:~ # dmesg | egrep -i 'cd|dvd' > cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI device > cd0: Serial Number M0063NE3358 > cd0: 66.700MB/s transfers (UDMA4, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) > cd0: 4482MB (2295104 2048 byte sectors) > root@eris:~ # >=20 > root@eris:~ # camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 = (ada0,pass0) > at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 = (cd0,pass1) > root@eris:~ # >=20 >=20 > root@eris:~ # mkdir /media/dvd > root@eris:~ # mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/cd0 /media/dvd >=20 >=20 > root@eris:~ # ls -lap /media/dvd/ > total 547 > drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 6144 Nov 16 04:45 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 20 04:50 ../ > -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 951 Nov 16 04:35 .cshrc > -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 470 Nov 16 04:35 .profile > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Nov 16 04:34 .rr_moved/ > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6177 Nov 16 04:35 COPYRIGHT > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6994 Nov 16 04:35 ERRATA.HTML > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3266 Nov 16 04:35 ERRATA.TXT > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 255886 Nov 16 04:35 HARDWARE.HTML > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 119849 Nov 16 04:35 HARDWARE.TXT > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 23899 Nov 16 04:35 README.HTML > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14333 Nov 16 04:35 README.TXT > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 20415 Nov 16 04:35 RELNOTES.HTML > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 8336 Nov 16 04:35 RELNOTES.TXT > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 6144 Nov 16 04:33 bin/ Given the lack of other material to look at, why not try something like: (Done from an amd64 context in my case.) # file bin/ls bin/ls: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, 64-bit PowerPC or cisco 7500, version = 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, = FreeBSD-style, for FreeBSD 12.0 (1200086), stripped Note that the .iso file can be expanded with tar and this can be checked before burning a CD/DVD. That I did before cd'ing into the expansion and using the file command. Note that this does not show what it would install but what the cd runs as when booted. (See later for what would be installed.) > drwxr-xr-x 9 root wheel 6144 Nov 16 04:35 boot/ > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 dev/ > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6914 Nov 16 04:35 docbook.css > drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 14336 Nov 16 04:45 etc/ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 8192 Nov 16 04:34 lib/ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 libexec/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 media/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 mnt/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 net/ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:45 packages/ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:45 ppc/ > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 proc/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 rescue/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:35 root/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 18432 Nov 16 04:35 sbin/ > drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:33 tmp/ > drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 2048 Nov 16 04:35 usr/ > drwxr-xr-x 24 root wheel 4096 Nov 16 04:33 var/ > root@eris:~ # >=20 >=20 > root@eris:~ # head /media/dvd/COPYRIGHT > # $FreeBSD: releng/12.0/COPYRIGHT 333391 2018-05-09 02:02:49Z imp $ > # @(#)COPYRIGHT 8.2 (Berkeley) 3/21/94 >=20 > The compilation of software known as FreeBSD is distributed under the > following terms: >=20 > Copyright (c) 1992-2018 The FreeBSD Project. >=20 > Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without > modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions > root@eris:~ # >=20 > That is not helpful and neither is README.TXT. >=20 > Has to be a file somewhere that says "release and version". >=20 > In any case I can not tell what this dvd is and so I shall start over = with a full surface blank and then a re-burn and a test of the live DVD. See my earlier suggestion. > Thank you for putting up with my seemingly dumb questions but there is > just so much knowledge about FreeBSD that isn't obvious and even with > decades of UNIX and Linux experience I fall flat on my face over and > over. Strangely I just keep plowing forwards with the goal here being = to > build the kernel myself and that includes the zfs.ko which is absent > from the DVD. >=20 By the way: # file boot/kernel/zfs.ko=20 boot/kernel/zfs.ko: ELF 64-bit MSB shared object, 64-bit PowerPC or = cisco 7500, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, not stripped The .iso does include zfs.ko so that it can work with such media. But the actual materials to be installed are from: # find . -name "*.txz" -print ./usr/freebsd-dist/base.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/doc.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/kernel.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/kernel-dbg.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/lib32.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/ports.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/src.txz ./usr/freebsd-dist/tests.txz lib32 is a hint: there is not supposed to be such for a 32-bit powerpc build, just for 64-bit builds: it is what allows running 32-bit code under the 64-bit OS. Testing the content of what would be installed . . . # mkdir ~/base-expansion # tar -xpf usr/freebsd-dist/base.txz -C ~/base-expansion # file ~/base-expansion/bin/ls /root/base-expansion/bin/ls: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, 64-bit PowerPC = or cisco 7500, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter = /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, FreeBSD-style, for FreeBSD 12.0 (1200086), = stripped So it is not 32-bit code. As for zfs.ko : # tar -tvf usr/freebsd-dist/kernel.txz | grep zfs -r-xr-xr-x 0 root wheel 4072352 Nov 15 20:13 ./boot/kernel/zfs.ko Looks like zfs.ko is present to install. (Note: zfs.ko is not part of a 32-bit powerpc build if I remember right, jut 64-bit.) For reference to get started for this I did: # wget = http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/FreeBSD-12.0-= RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso --2018-11-19 23:00:06-- = http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/FreeBSD-12.0-= RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso Resolving ftp3.freebsd.org (ftp3.freebsd.org)... 2001:4f8:1:11::15:0, = 149.20.1.200 Connecting to ftp3.freebsd.org = (ftp3.freebsd.org)|2001:4f8:1:11::15:0|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 735252480 (701M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: 'FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso' FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso = 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>] 701.19M 9.74MB/s in 76s =20 2018-11-19 23:01:22 (9.27 MB/s) - = 'FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso' saved = [735252480/735252480] I'll also note that the size of the .iso file also can be checked against the size of the downloads listed on the web: # ls -l FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso=20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 735252480 Nov 15 20:26 = FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso Back to setting up for the earlier material . . . # mkdir FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1 # tar -xpf FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso -C = FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1 # cd FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1/ Then I looked around at things, as I reported. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 14:17:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1441130C47 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob13.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob13.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F8D6F189 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.35]) by atl4mhob13.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAKEHDgF009555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:17:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 28540 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2018 14:17:13 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) 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To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <970a52e9-0751-fb27-f969-8884fa6506f0@blastwave.org> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: <06a508bb-1f79-f03f-b927-37697e637b37@blastwave.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:17:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <970a52e9-0751-fb27-f969-8884fa6506f0@blastwave.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 77F8D6F189 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.77)[-0.766,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.08)[-0.078,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.30)[0.301,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[51.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:17:24 -0000 >> >> I just downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso.xz and >> everything looked correct.  Did you download the -powerpc-powerpc ISO >> by mistake? > > Repeatedly I have gone through these motions and this would be a third > time.  Sadly I use the dvd burner inside the G5 to actually burn the DVD > itself and I run a full surface blank first. It is DVD+RW media and I > use Jörg Schilling's cdrecord from the sources and always build it > myself.  It never fails and after all he is the master of such things. > > So once again I will download the same dvd image and again do a full > surface blank and a re-burn and then a boot. > > Is there anywhere on the dvd media that identifies what it is ? Well golly gee. After days of working along with a 32-bit install it seems clear that the DVD+RW media I had used was in fact NOT being blanked before a write attempt and if I had very carefully watched the output from cdrecord I would have seen the error message. However I did not and also did not bother to even check the /bin/ls ELF binary : eris# uname -a FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc eris# which ls /bin/ls eris# file /bin/ls /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, 64-bit PowerPC or cisco 7500, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, FreeBSD-style, for FreeBSD 12.0 (1200086), stripped eris# Much better. Performance is not stellar but then again nothing is on an old G5 : eris# /usr/bin/time -p /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch extract . . . Building new INDEX files... done. real 1018.50 user 349.51 sys 627.27 Workable. Something I should have checked more closely on the 32-bit instance: eris# eris# uname -aipKU FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC powerpc powerpc64 GENERIC 1200086 1200086 eris# eris# uname -p powerpc64 eris# I have no idea what that said for a 32-bit install. In any case I apologize for my noises made and will go back to the task now of walking slowly through each of the ports I need. One by one doing a build and watching what happens. Here is the list I need as a minimum: eris# eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o | sort -n 1542499292 dialog4ports 0.1.6 ports-mgmt/dialog4ports 1542507622 pkg 1.10.5_5 ports-mgmt/pkg 1542548687 indexinfo 0.3.1 print/indexinfo 1542549084 gettext-runtime 0.19.8.1_2 devel/gettext-runtime 1542551673 gettext-tools 0.19.8.1_1 devel/gettext-tools 1542553795 perl5 5.28.0_2 lang/perl5.28 1542554307 p5-Locale-gettext 1.07 devel/p5-Locale-gettext 1542554519 gmake 4.2.1_3 devel/gmake 1542554683 help2man 1.47.8_1 misc/help2man 1542555461 texinfo 6.5_1,1 print/texinfo 1542556726 gmp 6.1.2_1 math/gmp 1542557887 mpfr 4.0.1_2 math/mpfr 1542563145 pkgconf 1.5.4,1 devel/pkgconf 1542563202 xorg-macros 1.19.2 devel/xorg-macros 1542563292 xtrans 1.3.5 x11/xtrans 1542563425 xorgproto 2018.4 x11/xorgproto 1542563584 libXau 1.0.8_5 x11/libXau 1542563861 libXdmcp 1.1.2_2 x11/libXdmcp 1542563981 libsigsegv 2.12 devel/libsigsegv 1542564399 m4 1.4.18_1,1 devel/m4 1542564448 autoconf-wrapper 20131203 devel/autoconf-wrapper 1542564631 autoconf 2.69_2 devel/autoconf 1542564790 automake 1.16.1_1 devel/automake 1542564925 libtool 2.4.6_1 devel/libtool 1542565154 check 0.12.0_1 devel/check 1542565292 libffi 3.2.1_3 devel/libffi 1542565623 readline 7.0.3_2 devel/readline 1542566169 python27 2.7.15 lang/python27 1542566525 libxml2 2.9.7 textproc/libxml2 1542566547 xcb-proto 1.13 x11/xcb-proto 1542566573 libpthread-stubs 0.4 devel/libpthread-stubs 1542566870 libgpg-error 1.32_1 security/libgpg-error 1542567232 libgcrypt 1.8.4_1 security/libgcrypt 1542567404 libxslt 1.1.32 textproc/libxslt 1542567858 libxcb 1.13.1 x11/libxcb 1542568797 libX11 1.6.6_1,1 x11/libX11 1542568898 libXext 1.3.3_3,1 x11/libXext 1542569010 libICE 1.0.9_3,1 x11/libICE 1542569087 libSM 1.2.3,1 x11/libSM 1542569284 libXt 1.1.5_2,1 x11-toolkits/libXt 1542569409 libXmu 1.1.2_5,1 x11-toolkits/libXmu 1542569460 xauth 1.0.10 x11/xauth 1542571703 ksh93 20120801_2 shells/ksh93 1542577534 bison 3.1_1,1 devel/bison 1542581342 binutils 2.30_6,1 devel/binutils 1542581536 mpc 1.1.0_2 math/mpc 1542628590 gcc7 7.3.0_6 lang/gcc7 1542638224 expat 2.2.6_1 textproc/expat2 1542638558 libiconv 1.14_11 converters/libiconv 1542643400 gdb 8.2 devel/gdb eris# That is fairly close to exactly what I have on x86_64. I also have an arm7 unit here from ASUS and wonder if that is possible? 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My lord, suppose you acquired a Power9 IBM boxen. May I please ask where you got this computer from. All apologies to FreeBSD biome members if this message does not thread correctly. 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(dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 22 Nov 2018 00:26:21 -0000 Subject: Re: after running the installer on a PowerMac G5 no root filesystem found To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <201811212336.wALNa8aJ004294@euler.miltonslab.com> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 19:26:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201811212336.wALNa8aJ004294@euler.miltonslab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D1F2F7E5DB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.60)[0.603,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.netsolmail.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.21)[0.208,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[47.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.15)[0.149,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[47.115.17.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:26:31 -0000 On 11/21/18 6:36 PM, miltonott wrote: > on Wed Nov 14 19:54:35 UTC 2018 Dennis wrote: >> Really I want a Power9 IBM boxen. > > My lord, suppose you acquired a Power9 IBM boxen. May I please ask where > you got this computer from. I don't understand the question but I have a ton of hardware of different types. Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Nov 22 03:48:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF0E11342C0 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 03:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miltonott@fastmail.com) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9D42873F5 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 03:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miltonott@fastmail.com) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A9021FA9 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 22:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 22:48:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= date:from:message-id:to:subject:in-reply-to:references; s=fm1; bh=3x7my+1gQ/lj53y/8PNksttbxaantFMiA3J5L9gBtD8=; b=MLcWKABNw9Zs VZb4S9WtmbHeV1pYgwnYbzvgXsxROo4CgZTJgb5WrXndAOzZzWgKsw9S4IoHuC13 VDljhLRmltL++MF/iDiiFt4FORmgVnl+aqgmHWt4K0W7QJmdmTqJ1Eo4xBDL3V+s e7YWpjIncuMY3nR7Xp2+7VWqMa1F8s19Q0SVfM+WYtR1L1xutW2oajND39sx5Mdk lzZKNU3+2m92id0ELuwrBot8uqr+mkOnWPrJs74ixjdBCZtIoQXiu9Jd9jKGwgV0 19HLiTAU21VC0fv85mZdm4D9KDnnTimwlBKSuMdA/fF9Z3id4HJZnCmGoWIkWevs bxKZrqyNug== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:in-reply-to:message-id :references:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=3x7my+1gQ/lj53y/8PNksttbxaant FMiA3J5L9gBtD8=; b=WUQRKOz8U9tVkFO0rcgXadZ9Ess+QqUGiTU1IX+CJPrlA ZJjfFewJyNjM8sas3ax0QNhhFaCZyCcHXUXthVJ69K+Lt/vI84LeGaH8IS8DApDd ldDcB0MIes+zx/UMsIGX6y2keig7er9fPmFKo5Z0KA9Do4YU2Akay7lh8BYvL8ZV qRUeJ1EN7pm57KIOQK6ZC3sMaD2YVtggMrcxHECaN54idLaXZFPqKg2xbUU/m79e c71+ujfCbo1ibi4nCFCoIyOzXaSi7d2QOUSyHCC8byS89sAymeFowQz/YIBzTShH iQWfMiMZWb5rg4KDLoDT7dgHUToVh85rUMIBjlxlQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy: Received: from euler.miltonslab.com (unknown [58.170.134.206]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CE5CBE4307 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 22:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by euler.miltonslab.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) id wAM3moPB005155; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 03:48:50 GMT (envelope-from miltonott) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 03:48:50 GMT From: miltonott Message-Id: <201811220348.wAM3moPB005155@euler.miltonslab.com> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: after running the installer on a PowerMac G5 no root filesystem found In-Reply-To: References: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A9D42873F5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[fastmail.com,messagingengine.com]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.28]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[fastmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.80)[asn: 11403(-3.89), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: in2-smtp.messagingengine.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[fastmail.com:+,messagingengine.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[fastmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.890,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[28.4.111.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[206.134.170.58.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[fastmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 03:48:58 -0000 >>> on Wed Nov 14 19:54:35 UTC 2018 Dennis wrote: >>> Really I want a Power9 IBM boxen. >>> >> miltonott wrote: >> My lord, suppose you acquired a Power9 IBM boxen. May I please ask where >> you got this computer from. > Dennis wrote: > I don't understand the question but I have a ton of hardware of > different types. O noble PowerMac driver, all apologies for that. I just wanted to inquire about the Power9 IBM boxen, and where such a computer could be sourced. I did some surfing and found that RAPTOR Computing Systems have the Power 9 computing system. Take it easy Dennis, and maybe I'll see you around sometime. From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Nov 22 13:28:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D708F1148AD4 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BDA76AE7 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4310dD0rpjz1ftYs for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 14:28:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermex.mcs.it (unknown [192.168.132.214]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4310dD05mbz1ftYv for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 14:28:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermex.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF1D5F566 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 14:28:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 14:30:25 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: FreeBSD 11.2 slow under KVM/Qemu X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4310dD05mbz1ftYv@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 07BDA76AE7 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.910,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.45.144.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vespaperitivo.it]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.84)[-0.836,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[baobab.bilink.it]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.144.45.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.13)[0.132,0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: IT(0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8816, ipnet:212.45.128.0/19, country:IT] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:28:40 -0000 Hello all, I have a virtual machine that is running under Qemu on an IBM PPC server that is al lot slower than its equivalent running on hardware on an AMD Phenom quad core quite aged. A small overhead from the virtualization is normal, though this one is a bit too much. I've seen this in my qemu log: 2018-11-22T12:21:59.087171Z qemu-system-ppc64: System page size 0x1000000 is not enabled in page_size_mask (0x11000). Performance may be slow Is it something already known? Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. 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(dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 22 Nov 2018 18:31:07 -0000 Subject: Re: after running the installer on a PowerMac G5 no root filesystem found To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <201811212336.wALNa8aJ004294@euler.miltonslab.com> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:31:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 43D1980995 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.04)[-0.041,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.03)[0.029,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.03)[0.034,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[120.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:31:24 -0000 On 11/21/18 7:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 11/21/18 6:36 PM, miltonott wrote: >> on Wed Nov 14 19:54:35 UTC 2018 Dennis wrote: >>> Really I want a Power9 IBM boxen. >> >> My lord, suppose you acquired a Power9 IBM boxen. May I please ask where >> you got this computer from. > > I don't understand the question but I have a ton of hardware of > different types. I deal with some guys in Toronto that can get just about anything risc or enterprise class and often have it laying about in their warehouse. They still keep DEC Alpha parts on hand. Livewire. Dennis From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Fri Nov 23 09:13:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3ED1140034 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic301-31.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic301-31.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CCDD7DA17 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: Wrt7PpwVM1kK24QK0bDFK2.UdON8qvIWAsZJ3YEoAoNWOfj.ExPU5aF0Vjof.R9 Y4RF6kseYiG4L6jTrca8zoIiaVFm2wcroJU0SBCM7q989vZzJSj16Gm10vJhS9Izz9U0HaRjFWeG 6GBj.F4RuZYXu1qk1fxApaBQ.1IR1C_83QLj4.dKOJhTsVDrk0W2ssU4Lp5KwsqrRD4J3yQjnlQB y0Ci4GDg6FHn2H.9i082m7S0wNZmdeBLxAecj3HMgdCbSrUv.ckXgnzWxqOyrqxq3QVdcvuvVuSo cezUFh3iQePzYV8baNgQH1wRP_iTjEmFIJK5t53uIbDP9XoCNRDKCD7BfzjjRS_R.31fSaaV7n8P 3NLfogHDdMV_eh167ct357YK4wlh3G_DhtpXrYWgRbhEgi9k.qZMRHFPiIkxnJMP9C3XgdM69bXU wgD0QVObkH.jSDtv3UjpIiiJSX4QvvCa0aGm1OFSxqxV2Xx7Ab.kY.sxgKkF2oCdDyX3b7UFlwT8 oUl7W3pDEaB1RJwCISKBovSyycWqH2aBxA6t.aZ0xFTUXFeS.pKyrGRPbqq1inUXeiQ5n7EbUCM8 GvxOG8QE5OeLHk6AkOBOD6rnZ.80b7T79bROcp3rTmi47w0MEwAL2mXEB50om1rLNl42QXn1sGOg ipdXW0YnUBatjsELPEpDd3POwBkDHuXIdkiFebZr8ZZOkCf3nG4e6MtkD.etdzvPZfhrE.4.Pmyj 2aVLUtJS_0y1JdlfIc1eYAOcgC0gA8CQz21Huyzb1qNwachH.KmWfI5jxP_sVYirGBUYl1_yUTVb 0vhaNLaU9agx5KPLvZUZrtImbKJkEkwNEo5eLPxiD1fHLvhvMsId2diFpFowELTHp0LHC2JsUXDG zypIPGsElcLm1TjZXMsfjwzzGPKRaDacjzHlGw25cLoEo5vgHk4wKrmk5DX22SlYfDg_nuUKBZl9 WLeHIPDGY8IUuHwq0lw_od_wNMCcQA1qs8XPd3DwO5qbXjv1zLvuuK9W7HPfh1P87lShHDhYBuGU 9aFz.0CUxAz6qc.zMCGLtkv7J8t8dxlEQwpOWB3OU_fZKNeQWrouo0rcF_yEJnguLA_ZPUDc- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:13:44 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.25]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b6010412285e6aab5c8c1878e33b2248; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: head -r340287 based powerpc64: multimedia/ffmpeg -r484273 gets a system-clang assert failure [reduced to 15 program] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 01:13:39 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML , multimedia@FreeBSD.org, ports-list freebsd Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <420A14D5-270D-4360-963C-673A59A2F7D8@yahoo.com> References: To: FreeBSD Toolchain , Dimitry Andric X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3CCDD7DA17 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.61)[ip: (5.10), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.69), asn: 36646(1.35), country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_NEUTRAL(0.00)[200.184.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.13]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.938,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.84)[0.840,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.62)[0.618,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[200.184.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:13:46 -0000 [I isolated the compiler crash down to a 20 line program that makes the assert fail.] On 2018-Nov-22, at 13:03, Mark Millard wrote: > During a (native) poudriere-devel run I got the following failure. > [Unfortunately clang and poudriere are mismatched for where the > preprocessed source(s) and run script(s) are placed as far as > what is in the poudriere tar archive produced. But I did have > kern.corefile set so that the core file was captured.] >=20 > This happens to be on powerpc64 where I experiment with using > fairly modern cc/c++ and the like. devel/powerpc64-xtoolchain-gcc > was used for buildworld buildkernel and clang was built as cc. > But the system binutils is from base/binutils . So not an official > gcc 4.2.1 toolchain context, more of a futures-testing context. >=20 > The error report from clang (after 332 other ports had built): >=20 > cc: error: unable to execute command: Abort trap (core dumped) > cc: error: clang frontend command failed due to signal (use -v to see = invocation) > FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on = LLVM 6.0.1) > Target: powerpc64-unknown-freebsd13.0 > Thread model: posix > InstalledDir: /usr/bin > cc: note: diagnostic msg: PLEASE submit a bug report to = https://bugs.freebsd.org/submit/ and include the crash backtrace, = preprocessed source, and associated run script. > cc: note: diagnostic msg:=20 > ******************** >=20 > PLEASE ATTACH THE FOLLOWING FILES TO THE BUG REPORT: > Preprocessed source(s) and associated run script(s) are located at: > cc: note: diagnostic msg: /tmp/vf_convolution-9639c0.c > cc: note: diagnostic msg: /tmp/vf_convolution-9639c0.sh > cc: note: diagnostic msg:=20 >=20 > ******************** > gmake[1]: *** [ffbuild/common.mak:60: libavfilter/vf_convolution.o] = Error 254 > gmake[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... > gmake[1]: Leaving directory = '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-4.1' > =3D=3D=3D> Compilation failed unexpectedly. > Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=3Dyes and rebuild before reporting the = failure to > the maintainer. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > . . . >=20 I isolated the system-clang crash down to a 15 line program that makes the assert fail for the reduced command: "/usr/bin/cc" "-cc1" "-emit-obj" "-target-cpu" "ppc64" "-O1" = "-vectorize-loops" "vf_convolution-mmjnk.c" ( -O2 and -O3 also cause the failure. ) # more vf_convolution-mmjnk.c=20 double sqrt(double); static void filter_sobel(unsigned char *dst, int width, const unsigned char *c[]) { const unsigned char *c0 =3D c[0], *c1 =3D c[1]; int x; for (x =3D 0; x < width; x++) { dst[x] =3D sqrt(c0[x] * -1 + c1[x] * -2); } } void (*mmjnk)(unsigned char *dst, int width, const unsigned char *c[]) =3D filter_sobel; The error reported is: Assertion failed: (isSimple() && "Expected a SimpleValueType!"), = function getSimpleVT, file = /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/CodeGen/ValueTypes.h, line 254. Abort trap (core dumped) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Fri Nov 23 11:25:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C03114378C for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE788450C for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431Yrg4cMRz1ftWX for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:25:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermex.mcs.it (unknown [192.168.132.214]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431Yrg3s77z1ftWc for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:25:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermex.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654095F605 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:25:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:27:19 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.2 slow under KVM/Qemu In-Reply-To: <4310dD05mbz1ftYv@baobab.bilink.it> References: <4310dD05mbz1ftYv@baobab.bilink.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <431Yrg3s77z1ftWc@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3BE788450C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.41 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.61)[-0.607,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.45.144.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.48)[-0.483,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vespaperitivo.it]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: baobab.bilink.it]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.12)[-0.117,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.144.45.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: IT(0.03)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8816, ipnet:212.45.128.0/19, country:IT] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:25:26 -0000 On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 14:30:25 +0100 Luciano Mannucci wrote: > 2018-11-22T12:21:59.087171Z qemu-system-ppc64: System page size 0x1000000 > is not enabled in page_size_mask (0x11000). Performance may be slow It is a quemu under linuxPPC problem: it does'nt handle hugpages correctly. Nothing to do with Freebsd, I'll open a PR with them once I figure out how to... :-) Cheers, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sat Nov 24 05:34:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1682D1140C1C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B148786AB1 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 857599C04; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: powerpc@localmail.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 800419C03 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2622D86AAE for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59E591FF82 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wAO5Yehg092733 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:40 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id wAO5Ye8u092732 for powerpc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:40 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: powerpc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 232060] lang/mono: Fix for Mono build on FreeBSD PowerPC Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:40 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: bugzilla@nulldir.e4ward.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: mono@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B148786AB1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.76 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.29)[0.291,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.73)[0.732,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.74)[0.737,0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 05:34:42 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D232060 --- Comment #3 from Colin T. --- Patch has been merged upstream: https://github.com/mono/mono/pull/11128 --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=