From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 03:50:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328CFFDE5BF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55D284844 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 888D1FDE5BD; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sysinstall@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77781FDE5B9 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A5C38483F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 772EB2760F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w843ol6D039831 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:47 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w843olPh039826 for sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 03:50:47 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 231129] The ZFS installer sets atime=off by default Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 03:50:46 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.2-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: linimon@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: component assigned_to Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 03:50:49 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D231129 Mark Linimon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|standards |bin Assignee|standards@FreeBSD.org |sysinstall@FreeBSD.org --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 17:24:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07ABFF5FD7 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D98178628 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1F031FF5FD6; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sysinstall@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB6DFF5FD5 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A41C378626 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F20B46CFD for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w84HOT9h002869 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w84HOT6W002868 for sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 231129] The ZFS installer sets atime=off by default Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:24:29 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.2-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D231129 --- Comment #2 from Dennis Clarke --- (In reply to Allan Jude from comment #1) That seems like a very weak argument to disable one of the three key timest= amps in the UNIX world. Disk space is cheap and so is CPU whereas end to end data integrity is essential and precious. I would argue that growing snapshots = is exactly correct and they should grow and will grow precisely because that is what snapshots are supposed to do. The disable of "atime" argument may as w= ell be followed by the disable of "ctime" if that were possible. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 19:51:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DD3FFB42A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D2A7070A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 89334FFB429; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sysinstall@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E25FFB428 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A01B70707 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 682CB1CCE2 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w85JpOS1036362 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:24 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w85JpO3s036357 for sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:51:24 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 231129] The ZFS installer sets atime=off by default Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 19:51:24 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.2-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_severity Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 19:51:26 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D231129 Dennis Clarke changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Affects Only Me |Affects Many People --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=