From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 06:15:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B509810B4666 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 06:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp) Received: from mgate.inetd.co.jp (mgate.inetd.co.jp [210.129.88.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F627B8BF for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 06:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp) Received: from mgate.inetd.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirishima.m.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43141B644 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:15:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kaga.x.inetd.co.jp [192.168.10.10]) by kirishima.m.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5031B50F for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:15:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:15:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20181008.151536.2044072185712919370.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org From: zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 24.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96320] =?iso-2022-jp?b?YW1kNjQbJEIkRxsoQmkzODYbJEIkTkYxTD4laSUkJVYbKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJWklaiQsJW0hPCVJJEckLSRKJCQbKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 06:15:47 -0000 鈴木@葛飾区です。 FreeBSD11.2(amd64)をインストールして、その上で古いマシンからi386のプロ グラムやライブラリをコピーして動かそうとしているのですが、妙な現象で悩 んでいます。 古い32bitのライブラリは /usr/local/lib32/10.4 にコピーしてあります。 また、rc.confで ldconfig32_paths="/usr/local/lib32/10.4 /usr/lib32 /usr/lib32/compat" のように perl5.8(i386)のたとえばPostgresSQLのモジュールですが # ldd32 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so: libpq.so.5 => not found (0) libm.so.5 => /usr/lib32/libm.so.5 (0x2862e000) libc.so.7 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 (0x28072000) のようにlibpq.so.5がnot foundになってしまいます。 もちろん /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libpq.so.5 は存在します。 どうも様子がおかしいのは libpq.so.5 はamd64のための /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.5 も存在していて、/usr/local/lib に同名の64bit 用ライブラリがあるとダメなのですが、/usr/local/lib/libpq.so.5 を /usr/lib に移動すると不思議なことに # ldd32 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so: libpq.so.5 => /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libpq.so.5 (0x2862e000) libm.so.5 => /usr/lib32/libm.so.5 (0x28656000) libc.so.7 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 (0x28072000) libthr.so.3 => /usr/lib32/libthr.so.3 (0x28684000) libintl.so.8 => not found (0) libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libssl.so.7 (0x286a7000) libcrypto.so.7 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libcrypto.so.7 (0x28704000) のようにlibpq.so.5はokになります。 (libintl.so.8が新たにnot foundになりますが、これも同名ライブラリが 64bit/32bitにあります) ※amd64のプログラムの方も問題ありません。 32bit用ライブラリと同名のファイルが /usr/lib に存在するとokで /usr/local/lib以下に存在するとダメな理由があるのでしょうか?? 11.2でpkg/portsからインストールしたライブラリを/usr/libに移せば動きそ うではあるのですが、メンテナンス性が悪くなるためできれば避けたいです。 宜しくお願いいたします。 --- すずき From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 08:43:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A110B7D93 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp) Received: from mgate.inetd.co.jp (mgate.inetd.co.jp [210.129.88.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497C68095C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp) Received: from mgate.inetd.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirishima.m.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B2F1B644 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:43:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kaga.x.inetd.co.jp [192.168.10.10]) by kirishima.m.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2C21B50F for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:43:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:43:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20181008.174309.2124922274613677805.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> From: zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20181008.151536.2044072185712919370.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> References: <20181008.151536.2044072185712919370.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 24.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96321] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?YW1kNjQbJEIkRxsoQmkzODYbJEIkTkYxTD4laSUkGyhC?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJVYlaSVqJCwlbSE8JUkkRyQtJEokJBsoQg==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:43:13 -0000 鈴木@葛飾区です。 書き忘れましたが、 LD_LIBRARY_PATH で32bitライブラリのみ参照されるよう にしておいてもダメでした。 # setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib32/10.4:/usr/lib32 # /usr/local/bin/php53 ← i386バイナリ /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2: unsupported file layout この状況では64bitのlsは当然動かないのですけど。。。 # ls /usr/lib32/libxo.so.0: unsupported file layout From: zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96320] amd64でi386の同名ライブラリがロードできない Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:15:36 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <20181008.151536.2044072185712919370.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> > 鈴木@葛飾区です。 > > FreeBSD11.2(amd64)をインストールして、その上で古いマシンからi386のプロ > グラムやライブラリをコピーして動かそうとしているのですが、妙な現象で悩 > んでいます。 > > 古い32bitのライブラリは /usr/local/lib32/10.4 にコピーしてあります。 > また、rc.confで > ldconfig32_paths="/usr/local/lib32/10.4 /usr/lib32 /usr/lib32/compat" > のように > > perl5.8(i386)のたとえばPostgresSQLのモジュールですが > > # ldd32 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so: > libpq.so.5 => not found (0) > libm.so.5 => /usr/lib32/libm.so.5 (0x2862e000) > libc.so.7 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 (0x28072000) > > のようにlibpq.so.5がnot foundになってしまいます。 > もちろん /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libpq.so.5 は存在します。 > > どうも様子がおかしいのは libpq.so.5 はamd64のための > /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.5 も存在していて、/usr/local/lib に同名の64bit > 用ライブラリがあるとダメなのですが、/usr/local/lib/libpq.so.5 を > /usr/lib に移動すると不思議なことに > > # ldd32 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so: > libpq.so.5 => /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libpq.so.5 (0x2862e000) > libm.so.5 => /usr/lib32/libm.so.5 (0x28656000) > libc.so.7 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 (0x28072000) > libthr.so.3 => /usr/lib32/libthr.so.3 (0x28684000) > libintl.so.8 => not found (0) > libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libssl.so.7 (0x286a7000) > libcrypto.so.7 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libcrypto.so.7 (0x28704000) > > のようにlibpq.so.5はokになります。 > (libintl.so.8が新たにnot foundになりますが、これも同名ライブラリが > 64bit/32bitにあります) > ※amd64のプログラムの方も問題ありません。 > > 32bit用ライブラリと同名のファイルが /usr/lib に存在するとokで > /usr/local/lib以下に存在するとダメな理由があるのでしょうか?? 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[IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5E510AC690 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp) Received: from mgate.inetd.co.jp (mgate.inetd.co.jp [210.129.88.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1718C4B9 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp) Received: from mgate.inetd.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirishima.m.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001981B6BA for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:46:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kaga.x.inetd.co.jp [192.168.10.10]) by kirishima.m.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3C51B644 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:46:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 23:46:25 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20181009.234625.990482796376591703.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org From: zen-freebsd-ml@suzuki.que.ne.jp In-Reply-To: References: <20181008.151536.2044072185712919370.inetd@x.inetd.co.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 24.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96323] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?YW1kNjQbJEIkRxsoQmkzODYbJEIkTkYxTD4laSUkGyhC?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJVYlaSVqJCwlbSE8JUkkRyQtJEokJBsoQg==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:46:35 -0000 内藤 様 鈴木@葛飾区です。 ご返信ありがとうございます。 > rtld のロジック的には rpath の指定により /usr/local/lib の下から > libpq.so を検索してファイルが存在しているから見つかったとしてパス検 > 索を終了したけれども、 > 実際には 32bit ライブラリではないので読めなかったんだろうと思います。 ちょうどお返事をいただく直前に同じ話をやっと見つけたところでした。 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-May/067832.html > /etc/libmap32.conf でマッピングし直すか、 > ports/packages の chrpath を使って rpath を書き換えれば動くのではな > いでしょうか? > あと蛇足ですが、 32bit ライブラリの読み込みパスを指定するには > LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH を指定するのが正しいです。 > 今回の場合は rpath が優先されますので恐らく無意味でしょうけど・・・。 ずっと32bit版のみでしたのでLD_32_LIBRARY_PATHなんてのがあったのは今回 初めて知りました。 とりあえずいちばん簡単そうな LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH を試してみましたところ どうもうまくいってしまいました。 man ld.soによると LD_LIBRARY_PATH_RPATH にyY1のいずれかがセットされい る場合のみDT_RPATHをオーバライドするとあるので、動きが正しくないような 気はしますが、解釈の誤りでしょうか? ちなみに、 readelfからの抜粋では以下のようになっていました。 # readelf -d /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so Dynamic section at offset 0x2c824 contains 23 entries: Tag Type Name/Value 0x0000000f RPATH Library rpath: [/usr/local/lib] > なお、rpath 具体的な値は readelf -d <ファイル名> で確認してみてください。 これもありがとうございました。 --- すずき From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Wed Oct 10 11:32:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EEB10D090A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naito.yuichiro@gmail.com) 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charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96325] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?YW1kNjQbJEIkRxsoQmkzODYbJEIkTkYxTD4laSUkGyhC?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJVYlaSVqJCwlbSE8JUkkRyQtJEokJBsoQg==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:30:14 -0000 内藤 様 鈴木@葛飾区です。 > 私も同じ認識でいましたが、どうやら DT_RUNPATH が共有ライブラリ内にあると、 > DT_RPATH は使われないので、LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH が優先されるようです。 > rtld(1) のマニュアルに優先順として書かれていました。 > > ので、最初に私が DT_RPATH を見ているからだと言っていたのが誤りで > DT_RUNPATH を見ていたからが正しいようです。 なるほど。読み方が浅かったようです。 いろいろありがとうございました。 とりあず、これまでのまとめてとしてはこんな感じでしょうか。 ・プログラムやライブラリ(.so)にRPATHが指定されている場合は、ldconfig による指定よりもRPATHで(プログラムのリンク時に)指定されている /usr/local/lib などが優先される。 ・この場合、/usr/local/lib32/compatなど32bit用としてldconfig(rc.confの ldconfig32_paths) で指定したディレクトリに32bit用のライブラリを配置 しても、同じ名前の64bit用ライブラリ(libpq.so.5など)が/usr/local/lib に存在すると、プログラム実行時やldd実行時には32bit用ではなく64bitの ライブラリを先に見つけてしまい、実行エラーになる。 ・プログラムでRPATHが設定されていてもDT_RUNPATHがさらに設定されている 場合、もしくはLD_LIBRARY_PATH_RPATH にyY1のいずれかが設定されている 場合は、LD_32_LIBRARY_PATHで32bitライブラリのディレクトリを設定して おけば32bitのライブラリを正しくリンクしてくれる。 (私が試した限りでは、ほとんどがLD_32_LIBRARY_PATHでokでした) /etc/login.confに以下の設定を追加してLD_32_LIBRARY_PATHを設定 default:\ :setenv=LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib32\c/usr/local/lib32/10.4\c/usr/local/lib32/compat:\ 〜以下省略〜 ※ LD_32_LIBRARY_PATHで複数のディレクトリを指定する場合は:で接合する が、login.confでは \c に置き換える必要あり。 ・LD_32_LIBRARY_PATHが効かない場合は /etc/libmap32.conf でライブラリの マッピングを行う。 (書き方の例) # /usr/local/ruby18/bin/rubyに適用 [/usr/local/ruby18/bin/ruby] libxml2.so.2 /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libxml2.so.2 # /usr/local/ruby18ディレクトリ以下のすべてのプログラムに適用 [/usr/local/ruby18] libxml2.so.2 /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libxml2.so.2 libpq.so.5 /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libpq.so.5 libintl.so.8 /usr/local/lib32/10.4/libintl.so.8 # リマップするファイルをディレクトリだけ指定してできれば良いが、 # これはダメだった。 [/usr/local/ruby18] /usr/loca/lib/ /usr/local/lib32/10.4/ /usr/loca/lib/* /usr/local/lib32/10.4/* /etc/libmap32.confではライブラリファイルを列挙しないといけないような ので、たくさんある場合は LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH が簡単。 ・今回は試しませんでしたが、ports/packages の chrpath を使って rpath を書き換えるという方法もあり。 --- すずき From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 01:11:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2F310D18DD for ; 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charset=ISO-2022-JP Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96327] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRC0xMS4yIBskQiROGyhCIGphX0pQLmV1Y0pQ?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?IBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:36:35 -0000 大澤です。 うっかり直に返信してしまったので、再送です。 EUC環境に不安があったので今月に入るまで11に上げないでいたのですが、 私の環境ではいまのところ問題が起っていません。 ちなみに、 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r339218M: Sun Oct 7 19:08:49 JST 2018 です。 KERNELのバグだとすると再現するはずなんですが。 ある特定の文字が引っかかっているってことなんでしょうか。 大澤 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 02:36:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED39F10D57A5 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naito.yuichiro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x62f.google.com (mail-pl1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 662BF82FF3 for ; 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X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; i386-portbld-freebsd8.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96329] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRC0xMS4yIBskQiROGyhCIGphX0pQLmV1Y0pQ?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?IBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:02:40 -0000 問題が出ない 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r339218M の作成方法を教えていただけないでしょうか。試してみます。 私がテストしたのは ftp サイトの FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES から取得した FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso をインス トールしたもので、 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510: Fri Jun 22 04:32:14 UTC 2018 です。違いは r335510 ですが、この意味がわかっていなくて、r339218M の作り方もわかりません。 ある特定の文字で問題が起きるということではなくて、同じ ftp サイトに 置かれている FreeBSD-10.4-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso と前記の 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510 の両方に最新 の同じ ports.tar.gz を追加して、xterm と kterm だけが動く状態 の最低限の ports をインストールし、ja_JP.eucJP 環境 で xterm と kterm だけを動かして、これらのウインドウに「Alt-o」などのキー入力 (Alt修飾のほとんど)をするとか、漢字を copy/paste した場合、 11.2 では xterm, ktermのいずれも crush、 10.4 では問題なしとい う問題です。 平林 浩一 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 09:07:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7522810BEA07 for ; 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Received: from Mintaka.localdomain.smtp2.tbd.t-com.ne.jp (121.net112138206.t-com.ne.jp [112.138.206.121]) by m-msa-tcm01.int.mmtr.basmail.jp with ESMTP id w9D97lWG013767; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:07:48 +0900 Message-Id: <201810130907.w9D97lWG013767@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:07:47 +0900 From: Hisao Osawa To: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRmJGIxsoQiAbJEJNNDBsTzobKEI=?= Cc: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8ABC790B-1AA9-4531-9781-95C1AC397E5E@gmail.com> References: <201810130111.w9D1Bdbc021214@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> <8ABC790B-1AA9-4531-9781-95C1AC397E5E@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/26 (amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96330] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRCAxMRskQiRHJE4bKEJWVBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEskRCQkJEYbKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:07:52 -0000 大澤です。 アドバイスありがとうございます。 scfbドライバはなぜか動かなかったのですが、 vesaドライバで試したところ Ctl+Alt+F2 で問題なくコンソールを 切り替えられました。 どうやら使っている nvidia-driver が悪さをしているようです。 ちなみに、pciconfによると、 vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x730a19da chip=0x128710de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'GK208B [GeForce GT 730]' class = display subclass = VGA です。 大澤 On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:36:42 +0900, 内藤 祐一郎 wrote: > > 内藤です。 > > 細かいところまで把握しているわけではありませんが、 > グラフィックドライバの相性問題とかはあるかもしれません。 > > まずは問題を切り分けるために xf86-video-scfb ドライバを使うとどうなりますか? > また、現在使用しているドライバ、グラフィックチップを教えてください。 > > -- > 内藤 祐一郎 > naito.yuichiro@gmail.com > From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 08:55:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B2A10BE2D9 for ; 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+0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.2 at asuka.mahoroba.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on asuka.mahoroba.org Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96333] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRC0xMS4yIBskQiROGyhCIGphX0pQLmV1Y0pQ?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?IBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 16:46:58 -0000 梅本です。 >>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:02:30 +0900 >>>>> Kouichi Hirabayashi said: kh> 問題が出ない 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r339218M kh> の作成方法を教えていただけないでしょうか。試してみます。 kh> 私がテストしたのは ftp サイトの FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES kh> から取得した FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso をインス kh> トールしたもので、 kh> 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510: Fri Jun 22 04:32:14 UTC 2018 kh> です。違いは r335510 ですが、この意味がわかっていなくて、r339218M kh> の作り方もわかりません。 FreeBSD バイナリがビルドされたソースのリビジョン番号です。最後に「M」 が付いているのは、checkout した状態ではなくローカルに何らかの修正が入っ ていることを示しています。おそらく、自身で何らかの修正を加えた上でビル ドされていると思います。 ちなみに、バージョンは /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh で生成されており、 この中で svnversion(1) を呼び出してリビジョンを取得しています。 リビジョンについては、svnversion のマニュアルや svnversion --help を参 照下さい。 -- 梅本 肇 http://www.mahoroba.org/~ume/ ume@mahoroba.org ume@FreeBSD.org プログラムは書いた人の意図ではなく書かれた通り動く I hate Modula-3 :-)