From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Sun Jan 6 08:59:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5294A144121B for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vnsndalce@memeware.net) Received: from cock.li (cock.li [IPv6:2a06:1700:0:b::c0cc]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 917A26AA80 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vnsndalce@memeware.net) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on cock.li X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=_SCTYPE_ autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1546765134; bh=tsGepUMOIZew9GNUdhrK+//uucdcVUfYZcxsCJOBp7E=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=cGYmSpPiXYQ+Glp2ASUz4Ns2NlfLJPzJogf3hEZ8KDBkB5LK/fx/HEP91kVfAAnn+ IW8fG98dHjCAqbQD9VA2x+mM23rJdzovaYaaQRIcGs7h9DQbCFa1Auy3EeQGMq/fNS y0YSUL61ldGhhN5IY5/BIbtMMt0fWMFang8WWbwb/M2tFpU23pqflJTPi+AFM7A0vp bYCiqsFRlllQAcoP3UQ7Fvp1dNXlLQOCe8FNs1ydAl0rhjolFnDgrtsECkVAGMLMc6 vMnZ124S+dnIbj35DR2EU7OoYxMgCDUGxdboUnxGd36mOMoKtc7b5pUbgas2ITESLw 65N1KtUXCkmIg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 08:58:53 +0000 From: vnsndalce@memeware.net To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org Subject: Threats of "blackballing" from industry if copyright-holders rescind. Message-ID: <2ca83c9db45b19df105d9613cdc40ab4@memeware.net> X-Sender: vnsndalce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 917A26AA80 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=memeware.net header.s=mail header.b=cGYmSpPi; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vnsndalce@memeware.net designates 2a06:1700:0:b::c0cc as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vnsndalce@memeware.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.42 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.937,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[memeware.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[memeware.net:~]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.cock.li]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.19)[-0.187,0]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[memeware.net:s=mail]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 08:59:09 -0000 > lol, you people are idiots. In a time where you can and will be fired > and ruined for ticking the wrong box, rescinding your code from a > project such as the linux kernel will just blackball you from the > entire industry forever. For good reason too. I wouldn't play with > someone who takes the ball home when he gets mad either. Why to think like a wageslave. The old-school linux contributors did not do it for money, and their copyrights (obviously) are still good. Why would you give a shit if you were blacklisted from "the industry", you have a cause of action in your hands. Legal action can reap you dividends that you would never otherwise achieve through your entire life. A cause of action is worth 100 or 1000 of your earning years, often. > lol, you people are idiots. In a time where you can and will be fired > and ruined for ticking the wrong box, rescinding your code from a > project such as the linux kernel will just blackball you from the > entire industry forever. For good reason too. I wouldn't play with > someone who takes the ball home when he gets mad either. If bloc-recissions and litigation happen, you may not have an industry to blackball them from. And you can't "just reimplement" the removed code and functionality either: as that may be infringing on the previous work as-well :). 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