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TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.4.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:14:22 -0000 On 2019-10-24 14:11, Phil Scarr via freebsd-ppc wrote: > So I do have Debian 10 running on the system now, but I was hoping to get FreeBSD on it. According to another email I saw come through, getting FreeBSD to recognize ANY of the onboard devices (except the network card) is extremely unlikely. I’m disappointed that TeamLinux is so much further ahead than TeamBSD on this, but given the relative marketshare of each team, I can’t say I’m surprised. :-( It's not only about market share. Do not forget IBM itself poured a lot of money into Linux including Linux on POWER. You can't compare any BSD team resources with resource of Big Blue... 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