From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 21:00:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F314871D8 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5374B90C3E for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 12F4014871D5; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E9014871D4 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7406790C38 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC8F99F9C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0DL03M0090389 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:03 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x0DL03tf090388 for scsi@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:03 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201901132100.x0DL03tf090388@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for scsi@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:05 -0000 To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 221952 | cam iosched: Fix trim statistics 1 problems total for which you should take action. From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:22:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BE4148ACAF for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from clavin2.langille.org (clavin2.langille.org [199.233.228.197]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "clavin.langille.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A86CB9462F for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from (clavin2.int.langille.org (clavin2.int.unixathome.org [10.4.7.7]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) with ESMTPSA id 3F0FC41C41 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:22:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Dan Langille Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations Message-Id: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:22:08 -0500 To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A86CB9462F X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=langille.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dan@langille.org designates 199.233.228.197 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dan@langille.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.99 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:199.233.228.197]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.92)[ip: (-9.43), ipnet: 199.233.228.0/22(-1.17), asn: 36236(-3.91), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ALT3.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT4.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.772,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:199.233.228.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:22:19 -0000 I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card for a PCIE slot. This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what to = search for. I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find something on = eBay. Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to search = for. Thank you. --=20 Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon dan@langille.org From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:27:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC2C148AF87 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 966F894737 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C13280ED; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:27:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:27:16 -0000 Hi Dan, I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less = HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for = future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. Scott > On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >=20 > I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate > some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card > for a PCIE slot. >=20 > This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >=20 > I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what to = search for. >=20 > I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find something = on eBay. >=20 > Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > --=20 > Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon > dan@langille.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:29:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E170148B007 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from clavin1.langille.org (clavin1.langille.org [162.208.116.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "clavin.langille.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FC8394785 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from (clavin1.int.langille.org (clavin1.int.unixathome.org [10.4.7.7]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) with ESMTPSA id 0DDBB12ECE ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:29:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Dan Langille Message-Id: <6E940B63-F5A4-4A22-AFE7-08F39508A910@langille.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:29:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org To: Scott Long References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7FC8394785 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=langille.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dan@langille.org designates 162.208.116.86 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dan@langille.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.42 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:162.208.116.86]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.36)[ip: (-9.50), ipnet: 162.208.116.0/22(-3.51), asn: 11403(-3.71), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT3.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.76)[-0.758,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:162.208.116.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:29:20 -0000 This is more for an existing ancient tape library. It may be easier to = buy a new motherboard which has both a PCI and an PCIE slot.=20 --=20 Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon dan@langille.org > On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long wrote: >=20 > Hi Dan, >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less = HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for = future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. >=20 > Scott >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>=20 >> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate >> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card >> for a PCIE slot. >>=20 >> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >>=20 >> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what = to search for. >>=20 >> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find something = on eBay. >>=20 >> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >>=20 >> Thank you. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >> dan@langille.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:30:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD20148B093 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C645947DF for ; 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Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:30:17 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <6E940B63-F5A4-4A22-AFE7-08F39508A910@langille.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:30:16 -0700 Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0472C7BF-B61F-4549-99CF-37A135A32D5D@samsco.org> References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <6E940B63-F5A4-4A22-AFE7-08F39508A910@langille.org> To: Dan Langille X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9C645947DF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=samsco.org header.s=fm2 header.b=OG5ETMRj; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=kwfXO5ql; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of scottl@samsco.org designates 66.111.4.26 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=scottl@samsco.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.74 / 15.00]; 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Scott > On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >=20 > This is more for an existing ancient tape library. It may be easier = to buy a new motherboard which has both a PCI and an PCIE slot.=20 >=20 > --=20 > Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon > dan@langille.org >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Dan, >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less = HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for = future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. >>=20 >> Scott >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>>=20 >>> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate >>> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card >>> for a PCIE slot. >>>=20 >>> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >>>=20 >>> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what = to search for. >>>=20 >>> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find = something on eBay. >>>=20 >>> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >>>=20 >>> Thank you. >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >>> dan@langille.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:37:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EC3148B481 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@your.org) Received: from mail.your.org (chi02.mail.your.org [204.9.55.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5220894CB7 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@your.org) Received: from mail.your.org (chi02.mail.your.org [204.9.55.23]) by mail.your.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AEF49411; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=your.org; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s= selector1; bh=8ustihDtp0jFx6BOtusNaFucRHw=; b=JUuBJ7mZa4QsW7tdJB d9LQcCvwO/QH/NPSI7+/9y1V5pJs9A+e7OEn/uwx+aTD+a21PkXjpBDTZM+J592n VWZwv800QfTv/cgUDdCaTJe9iJPgqTX358c3BhCakqIntfdXxv6aI34uWq/t5jb+ VlrmrbkznPO5KoljCpR8ckf2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=your.org; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= selector1; b=oyyvaQvkO3tHUzXoliU/INLd93fLSSIEi06T+1qj2hT1E56Q4Dp NqwZsUeGPtGZfFfO+OQn40wksTqyjgj3yxJHqBBokIrxXi2VJwGVzg9tu2B3Yh6X G/0aBkl37GsdWOMqK9E+3KUHw49MjvAwxljQMb95Ixnw+dS2cYTRgSTw= Received: from i147.cfv.net (i147.cfv.net [204.9.51.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.your.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64E8449410; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations From: Kevin Day In-Reply-To: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:28:51 -0600 Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> To: Dan Langille X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5220894CB7 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=your.org header.s=selector1 header.b=JUuBJ7mZ; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kevin@your.org designates 204.9.55.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kevin@your.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip4:204.9.48.0/21]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[your.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.your.org]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[23.55.9.204.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19255, ipnet:204.9.48.0/21, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[your.org:s=selector1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.58)[0.580,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[your.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.77)[0.770,0]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[your.org.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.990,0]; URIBL_SBL(6.50)[disctech.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:37:08 -0000 Hey, Dan! I went through this a while ago - If you're looking for a LVD SCSI card = on a PCIe system, I believe the only option that was made that you're = likely able to find now is the Adaptec 29320LPE. It's long been = discontinued, but still available from a few sources as of now: = https://www.disctech.com/Adaptec-29320-U320-LVD-SCSI-Controllers-PCI-Expre= ss > On Jan 13, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >=20 > I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate > some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card > for a PCIE slot. >=20 > This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >=20 > I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what to = search for. >=20 > I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find something = on eBay. >=20 > Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > --=20 > Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon > dan@langille.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:37:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43BF148B4A4 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@gwynne.id.au) Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 092A994CC2 for ; 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charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations From: David Gwynne In-Reply-To: <0472C7BF-B61F-4549-99CF-37A135A32D5D@samsco.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:37:06 +1000 Cc: Dan Langille , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <479EF192-798A-41FF-956C-E34FF73C7223@gwynne.id.au> References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <6E940B63-F5A4-4A22-AFE7-08F39508A910@langille.org> <0472C7BF-B61F-4549-99CF-37A135A32D5D@samsco.org> To: Scott Long X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 092A994CC2 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gwynne-id-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=PFPQXeFD; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of david@gwynne.id.au designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::636 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=david@gwynne.id.au X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:37:16 -0000 I'm pretty sure LSI made a PCIe U320 SCSI controller. Look for = lsi20320ie on ebay maybe? Can you go from that to HVD? dlg > On 14 Jan 2019, at 08:30, Scott Long wrote: >=20 > Yeah, but even those motherboards are getting harder and harder to = find. >=20 > Scott >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>=20 >> This is more for an existing ancient tape library. It may be easier = to buy a new motherboard which has both a PCI and an PCIE slot.=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >> dan@langille.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Dan, >>>=20 >>> I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much = less HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel = for future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about = those. >>>=20 >>> Scott >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want = to consolidate >>>> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card >>>> for a PCIE slot. >>>>=20 >>>> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >>>>=20 >>>> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what = to search for. >>>>=20 >>>> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find = something on eBay. >>>>=20 >>>> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >>>>=20 >>>> Thank you. >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >>>> dan@langille.org >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 23:18:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6C8148C4E8 for ; 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MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 23:18:52 -0000 Yeah, I should have said that there=E2=80=99s nothing modern and in = active production for parallel SCSI. I=E2=80=99d recommend against the = Adaptec product, the driver hasn=E2=80=99t been maintained in years. = The LSI one might work, but I have no recent experience with it. = You=E2=80=99ll need to get an LVD to HVD converter. I found this one: http://iec.net/product/ultra320-to-hvd-scsi-converter/ It=E2=80=99s pretty pricey since it=E2=80=99s so niche. HVD was a = source of many rack fires back in the day, I seriously recommend being = cautious with this is. Scott > On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:37 PM, David Gwynne wrote: >=20 > I'm pretty sure LSI made a PCIe U320 SCSI controller. Look for = lsi20320ie on ebay maybe? >=20 > Can you go from that to HVD? >=20 > dlg >=20 >> On 14 Jan 2019, at 08:30, Scott Long wrote: >>=20 >> Yeah, but even those motherboards are getting harder and harder to = find. >>=20 >> Scott >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>>=20 >>> This is more for an existing ancient tape library. It may be easier = to buy a new motherboard which has both a PCI and an PCIE slot.=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >>> dan@langille.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi Dan, >>>>=20 >>>> I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much = less HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel = for future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about = those. >>>>=20 >>>> Scott >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want = to consolidate >>>>> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar = / equivalent card >>>>> for a PCIE slot. >>>>>=20 >>>>> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >>>>>=20 >>>>> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know = what to search for. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find = something on eBay. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thank you. >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >>>>> dan@langille.org >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 14:10:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2619214A0EB3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) Received: from mithlond.kdm.org (mithlond.kdm.org [96.89.93.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mithlond.kdm.org", Issuer "mithlond.kdm.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3D7489D4E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) Received: from [10.0.0.29] (kenmbpspectra.int.kdm.org [10.0.0.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by mithlond.kdm.org (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id x0EEAiux074534 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:10:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) From: Ken Merry Message-Id: <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:10:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org To: Scott Long , Dan Langille References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mithlond.kdm.org [96.89.93.250]); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:10:44 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E3D7489D4E X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ken@kdm.org designates 96.89.93.250 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ken@kdm.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mithlond.kdm.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kdm.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[11]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.scsiguy.com,mithlond.kdm.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.39)[-0.390,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.01)[ipnet: 96.64.0.0/11(-4.28), asn: 7922(-0.69), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:10:54 -0000 So, if you=E2=80=99re interested in newer tape drives / libraries, the = connection options are FC, SAS or (lately) RoCE. The first two work = fine, but I have yet to be able to test/qualify a RoCE drive with = FreeBSD. For FC, get a Qlogic board (up to 16Gb is supported now) or a = 16Gb or newer Emulex board. Both drivers support FC-Tape. I have had = much more experience with the Qlogic driver, but the Emulex driver does = seem to work fine. For SAS, get an LSI/Broadcom 12Gb or 6Gb board. = They support TLR, which is the SAS equivalent of FC-Tape. The only current tape drive vendor is IBM, and you can get LTO (LTO-8 is = the latest, 12TB/30TB per tape) or TS drives (TS1160 is the latest, = 20TB/50TB) from them. TS only makes sense for people with a big = enterprise budget. I believe HP stopped making their own tape drives at LTO-6. Anything = HP-branded that is LTO-7 or newer is going to be an IBM drive under the = hood. If you want a tape library, there are a number of options. I know from = copious experience (yes I work there) that Spectra Logic libraries work = well with FreeBSD, and their support is good. IBM should also work = fine, and really, most libraries should work with FreeBSD without an = issue. If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM=E2=80=99s LTFS to = FreeBSD: https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs = You would need an IBM LTO-5 or newer tape drive. LTFS is helpful, but = keep in mind it isn=E2=80=99t a backup package in and of itself. It = doesn=E2=80=99t manage multiple tapes, it just gives you a filesystem on = a tape. As for SCSI adapters, I have a several ahc(4) boards in a machine = running FreeBSD/head and talking to SCSI and CD devices. The driver = seems to work fine. One thing to consider if you=E2=80=99re switching machines and looking = at buying new hardware, is whether your current tape library is still = sufficient for your needs in terms of speed and capacity. Rather than = putting the money towards an LVD to HVD converter, you could put it = toward a new tape drive or library. Another thing to consider is using hard drives for backup. That might = work, depending on your requirements for durability and shelf life for = the media. I=E2=80=99m guessing that buying a number of enterprise SATA = (or SAS) drives would probably be cheaper than buying even a used = library, media and FC or SAS card. Ken =E2=80=94=20 Ken Merry ken@FreeBSD.ORG > On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long wrote: >=20 > Hi Dan, >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less = HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for = future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. >=20 > Scott >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>=20 >> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate >> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card >> for a PCIE slot. >>=20 >> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = >>=20 >> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what = to search for. >>=20 >> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find something = on eBay. >>=20 >> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >>=20 >> Thank you. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >> dan@langille.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 14:49:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F8714A1ECA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from clavin1.langille.org (clavin1.langille.org [162.208.116.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "clavin.langille.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 540E18B231 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from (clavin1.int.langille.org (clavin1.int.unixathome.org [10.4.7.7]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) with ESMTPSA id 6EAC5142E1 ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Dan Langille Message-Id: <3FEF849A-099E-49D7-A8F9-D7D0AA41A7B7@langille.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C1092E82-99CF-498A-A2BC-DA080B343356"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:49:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> Cc: Scott Long , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org To: Ken Merry References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 540E18B231 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=langille.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dan@langille.org designates 162.208.116.86 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dan@langille.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:162.208.116.86]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT3.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.936,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.33)[ip: (-9.41), ipnet: 162.208.116.0/22(-3.44), asn: 11403(-3.71), country: US(-0.08)]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:162.208.116.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C1092E82-99CF-498A-A2BC-DA080B343356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jan 14, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Ken Merry wrote: >=20 > So, if you=E2=80=99re interested in newer tape drives / libraries, the = connection options are FC, SAS or (lately) RoCE. The first two work = fine, but I have yet to be able to test/qualify a RoCE drive with = FreeBSD. For FC, get a Qlogic board (up to 16Gb is supported now) or a = 16Gb or newer Emulex board. Both drivers support FC-Tape. I have had = much more experience with the Qlogic driver, but the Emulex driver does = seem to work fine. For SAS, get an LSI/Broadcom 12Gb or 6Gb board. = They support TLR, which is the SAS equivalent of FC-Tape. >=20 > The only current tape drive vendor is IBM, and you can get LTO (LTO-8 = is the latest, 12TB/30TB per tape) or TS drives (TS1160 is the latest, = 20TB/50TB) from them. TS only makes sense for people with a big = enterprise budget. In my case, this is for home use, where I have no budget for tape = libraries. The units I have are all production-cast-offs via kind = donations. Mind you, I did buy a Digital TL891 back in 2006 and it = still works. Photo of that beast here: = https://www.freebsddiary.org/digital-tl891.php = <--- that is the unit = for which I wanted a new SCSI card, but now I think the easiest solution = is to find another M/B (see below). >=20 > I believe HP stopped making their own tape drives at LTO-6. Anything = HP-branded that is LTO-7 or newer is going to be an IBM drive under the = hood. >=20 > If you want a tape library, there are a number of options. I know = from copious experience (yes I work there) that Spectra Logic libraries = work well with FreeBSD, and their support is good. IBM should also work = fine, and really, most libraries should work with FreeBSD without an = issue. I'm using a Dell TL4000 just now, connected via a SAS card (see below). = The other two tape libraries are legacy use only, for older backups. > If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM=E2=80=99s LTFS to = FreeBSD: >=20 > https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs = Wow, that's pretty nifty. Thanks. >=20 > You would need an IBM LTO-5 or newer tape drive. LTFS is helpful, but = keep in mind it isn=E2=80=99t a backup package in and of itself. It = doesn=E2=80=99t manage multiple tapes, it just gives you a filesystem on = a tape. I can see where that might be useful for restores. > As for SCSI adapters, I have a several ahc(4) boards in a machine = running FreeBSD/head and talking to SCSI and CD devices. The driver = seems to work fine. >=20 > One thing to consider if you=E2=80=99re switching machines and looking = at buying new hardware, is whether your current tape library is still = sufficient for your needs in terms of speed and capacity. Rather than = putting the money towards an LVD to HVD converter, you could put it = toward a new tape drive or library. The tape library in question is a DLT-7000, and it not used for active = backups. It is retained only for older backups. Current backups are to an LTO-4 tape library, vis a SAS2308 (Avago = Technologies / LSI) card. That is working well. I do have one M/B which has an both PCI and PCIE slots. I think the = easiest short term solution is to move both cards into a chassis with = that M/B. No purchase necessary. >=20 > Another thing to consider is using hard drives for backup. That might = work, depending on your requirements for durability and shelf life for = the media. I=E2=80=99m guessing that buying a number of enterprise SATA = (or SAS) drives would probably be cheaper than buying even a used = library, media and FC or SAS card. I backup to disk first, then copy to tape later. Both steps are handled = by Bacula, the backup package I'm using. Thank you. >=20 > Ken > =E2=80=94 > Ken Merry > ken@FreeBSD.ORG >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Dan, >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less = HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for = future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. >>=20 >> Scott >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille > wrote: >>>=20 >>> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to = consolidate >>> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / = equivalent card >>> for a PCIE slot. >>>=20 >>> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. = https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 = = > >>>=20 >>> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what = to search for. >>>=20 >>> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find = something on eBay. >>>=20 >>> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to = search for. >>>=20 >>> Thank you. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon >>> dan@langille.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing = list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi = >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --Apple-Mail=_C1092E82-99CF-498A-A2BC-DA080B343356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEzqcJ4oeyf8sgTIEBIU09XU2nXtMFAlw8oWUACgkQIU09XU2n XtMfhwf/dNn/rKEm2hzBNzkg1kDGsP+qeEvlE18kxb19IQE5iYBkJ4J4GMXm2sM6 7cHGLmfaIHVkB5eXiwj9erqjXGHzfF7UG2QV5I/6FLdEnPB6J0uYJLvJCz997mUc pI3io893zxbQ2Bj6eiB4VFQLdIShuKG+UdmvxCR04tmx959SWf/G8uTvTQjhN3jk 5pOjTLJl7wH/dsXIvN+dKFYnQEbiLO9wp/DO281OKp7jZYT3zMDD4HzeTtk+3baM W8v5iP6YQYc6bxQOzvQ9kUqcWRiYi1AMkfxzaZu3HFTVYPSFvUhSrKVktwn4kVYE WpR1z29ZNMQFfoFs6xLPQzNWiHV2Zw== =sI7w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C1092E82-99CF-498A-A2BC-DA080B343356-- From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 14:49:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F4214A1EE4 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) Received: from mithlond.kdm.org (mithlond.kdm.org [96.89.93.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mithlond.kdm.org", Issuer "mithlond.kdm.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F178B235 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) Received: from mithlond.kdm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mithlond.kdm.org (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id x0EEnR2N075133 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:49:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ken@mithlond.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by mithlond.kdm.org (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id x0EEnRuv075132; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:49:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:49:27 -0500 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations Message-ID: <20190114144927.GP40028@mithlond.kdm.org> References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> <20190114142631.GA18432@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190114142631.GA18432@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mithlond.kdm.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:49:28 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mithlond.kdm.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 15F178B235 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ken@kdm.org designates 96.89.93.250 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ken@kdm.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mithlond.kdm.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[FreeBSD.ORG]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.scsiguy.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.969,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.01)[ipnet: 96.64.0.0/11(-4.26), asn: 7922(-0.69), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ken@FreeBSD.ORG,ken@kdm.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ken@FreeBSD.ORG,ken@kdm.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:49:31 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:26:31 -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:10:43AM -0500, Ken Merry wrote: > > If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM???s LTFS to FreeBSD: > > > > https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs > > Any chance of that getting merged into the FreeBSD repo and becoming > officially supported? It would probably make the most sense to put it in the ports tree. It is a FUSE-based filesystem, and therefore easily installable as a port. Making it a port would also make it easier to keep up to date with IBM's development. (It is under active development.) As far as putting it in the base system, I think it is something that will get used as a standalone filesystem fairly infrequently. Very few people will have an IBM LTO-5 or newer drive / library. And most people shelling out the money for any amount of tape are either going to run a backup package or archive package on it, not just LTFS by itself. So, with stock FreeBSD, you would most likely run Bacula or Amanda for backup usage. I'm not sure if there are commercial backup packages with FreeBSD support. If you want a commercial FreeBSD-based archive product that will manage your tape library and do a lot more: https://spectralogic.com/products/blackpearl/ BlackPearl uses LTFS as its tape storage format, so that even if you want to switch to something else later on, you aren't "stuck" with a proprietary tape format. It can also import other vendors' LTFS-formatted tapes, assuming they follow the standard... If someone would like to make a port out of LTFS, that's fine with me... (Just a little busy with other stuff right now, and I'm not a ports committer.) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 19:05:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE5014842B7 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: from mail-it1-x12a.google.com (mail-it1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9982271282 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: by mail-it1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id w18so1160123ite.1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:05:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OEkeuJ5wg/AgRQjOI/27xx3kFwMLxS/AKNZNkrP83v4=; b=BAdX2K00CiFq70ap7hh7YJ/UOjRGXTrVw08Y3LVUA5IBwt+3NDXEPoG7wiTVVu8Csc EviFZkCqZdDgV6YyIGKKQZrZVDemiY4g872C3JojUPwj8prA/Kt90ObbIfbZwKzP7HUK AomJoQohgq58hd1uw6ouEyXoarzq+2mwUn8cE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OEkeuJ5wg/AgRQjOI/27xx3kFwMLxS/AKNZNkrP83v4=; b=fkFI2DK3ZL+Br/tis05rVRzo0RIH4UNnUhcIkrlE9sL8U2oCQdvyTR2ArX9s/RJMzu /f9qGkk9Rc+To26zqIzH+10lJgpDMGl+UCbl3ED1+4cgpNjaMzH0juSHzylNFaAqLVqx 8JsQL6GdgLFGSSb2sL3I3UTes7I894yszSGIE+8HJak9YurqxZsESURvlRacYnRNxu4g r6yPJUm/2SGipKg7myFaPZG34ssnuNuC+wCCJYppA/YXYnpI18NQnnEfrgy/YCj2qiIi 5C585FGVL4BSBK72U0jhnX1bhHor37rigGapLHMYjsucnwURVQH+Ez0QevDGPdnMGHKk +TTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukeJaZLF0j92qEUerQ5ozXy5/W8QoDT1xfFFkitdpHCpguvdQrqL iz1l8hPJhH1IwWBL3fHddHxFp0yvx/OHODywq9z+7TMdl/f2VA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4UJJDmHmBF6wZOKXItP+qhANQt2r6nZu8Qyo9R5TOlmVUWtu8L7Lo/ng+wmPHq3Nl6jEsnT0DnzxNaB7KzPAE= X-Received: by 2002:a24:1152:: with SMTP id 79mr386290itf.167.1547492749498; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> <20190114142631.GA18432@neutralgood.org> <20190114144927.GP40028@mithlond.kdm.org> In-Reply-To: <20190114144927.GP40028@mithlond.kdm.org> From: Kevin Bowling Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:05:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: "Kevin P. Neal" , FreeBSD-scsi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9982271282 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=kev009.com header.s=google header.b=BAdX2K00; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kevin.bowling@kev009.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kevin.bowling@kev009.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kev009.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[kev009.com:~]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[kev009.com:s=google]; IP_SCORE(-2.45)[ip: (-8.12), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.31), asn: 15169(-1.77), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:05:52 -0000 Ken, Give this a try https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18841 - if Spectra has any config or rc scripts or whatever that I should add send it my way. Regards, Kevin On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:50 AM Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:26:31 -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:10:43AM -0500, Ken Merry wrote: > > > If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM???s LTFS to FreeBSD: > > > > > > https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs > > > > Any chance of that getting merged into the FreeBSD repo and becoming > > officially supported? > > It would probably make the most sense to put it in the ports tree. It is a > FUSE-based filesystem, and therefore easily installable as a port. Making > it a port would also make it easier to keep up to date with IBM's > development. (It is under active development.) > > As far as putting it in the base system, I think it is something that will > get used as a standalone filesystem fairly infrequently. Very few people > will have an IBM LTO-5 or newer drive / library. And most people shelling > out the money for any amount of tape are either going to run a backup > package or archive package on it, not just LTFS by itself. > > So, with stock FreeBSD, you would most likely run Bacula or Amanda for > backup usage. I'm not sure if there are commercial backup packages with > FreeBSD support. If you want a commercial FreeBSD-based archive product > that will manage your tape library and do a lot more: > > https://spectralogic.com/products/blackpearl/ > > BlackPearl uses LTFS as its tape storage format, so that even if you want > to switch to something else later on, you aren't "stuck" with a proprietary > tape format. It can also import other vendors' LTFS-formatted tapes, > assuming they follow the standard... > > If someone would like to make a port out of LTFS, that's fine with me... > (Just a little busy with other stuff right now, and I'm not a ports > committer.) > > Ken > -- > Kenneth Merry > ken@FreeBSD.ORG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 20:09:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0431485CB9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@freebsd.org) Received: from mithlond.kdm.org (mithlond.kdm.org [96.89.93.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mithlond.kdm.org", Issuer "mithlond.kdm.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13F1A7382B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.0.0.29] (kenmbpspectra.int.kdm.org [10.0.0.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by mithlond.kdm.org (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id x0EK967v079929 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:09:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ken@freebsd.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations From: Ken Merry In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:09:05 -0500 Cc: "Kevin P. Neal" , FreeBSD-scsi Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <73EB5523-361E-49A2-AF33-2F5BAECD4759@freebsd.org> References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> <20190114142631.GA18432@neutralgood.org> <20190114144927.GP40028@mithlond.kdm.org> To: Kevin Bowling X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mithlond.kdm.org [96.89.93.250]); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:09:06 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 13F1A7382B X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:09:09 -0000 Looks good, thank you! I put a couple of comments in there about tape drive compatibility and = configuring the kernel so you can write larger tape blocks. Thanks, Ken =E2=80=94=20 Ken Merry ken@FreeBSD.ORG > On Jan 14, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Kevin Bowling = wrote: >=20 > Ken, >=20 > Give this a try https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18841 - if Spectra has > any config or rc scripts or whatever that I should add send it my way. >=20 > Regards, > Kevin >=20 > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:50 AM Kenneth D. Merry = wrote: >>=20 >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:26:31 -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:10:43AM -0500, Ken Merry wrote: >>>> If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM???s LTFS to = FreeBSD: >>>>=20 >>>> https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs = >>>=20 >>> Any chance of that getting merged into the FreeBSD repo and becoming >>> officially supported? >>=20 >> It would probably make the most sense to put it in the ports tree. = It is a >> FUSE-based filesystem, and therefore easily installable as a port. = Making >> it a port would also make it easier to keep up to date with IBM's >> development. (It is under active development.) >>=20 >> As far as putting it in the base system, I think it is something that = will >> get used as a standalone filesystem fairly infrequently. Very few = people >> will have an IBM LTO-5 or newer drive / library. And most people = shelling >> out the money for any amount of tape are either going to run a backup >> package or archive package on it, not just LTFS by itself. >>=20 >> So, with stock FreeBSD, you would most likely run Bacula or Amanda = for >> backup usage. I'm not sure if there are commercial backup packages = with >> FreeBSD support. If you want a commercial FreeBSD-based archive = product >> that will manage your tape library and do a lot more: >>=20 >> https://spectralogic.com/products/blackpearl/ >>=20 >> BlackPearl uses LTFS as its tape storage format, so that even if you = want >> to switch to something else later on, you aren't "stuck" with a = proprietary >> tape format. It can also import other vendors' LTFS-formatted tapes, >> assuming they follow the standard... >>=20 >> If someone would like to make a port out of LTFS, that's fine with = me... >> (Just a little busy with other stuff right now, and I'm not a ports >> committer.) >>=20 >> Ken >> -- >> Kenneth Merry >> ken@FreeBSD.ORG >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-scsi-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 20:29:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02551486477 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) Received: from mithlond.kdm.org (mithlond.kdm.org [96.89.93.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mithlond.kdm.org", Issuer "mithlond.kdm.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 410AE74B51 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@kdm.org) Received: from mithlond.kdm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mithlond.kdm.org (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id x0EKT56k080237 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:29:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ken@mithlond.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by mithlond.kdm.org (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id x0EKT5dB080236; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:29:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:29:05 -0500 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Dan Langille Cc: Scott Long , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations Message-ID: <20190114202905.GQ40028@mithlond.kdm.org> References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org> <3FEF849A-099E-49D7-A8F9-D7D0AA41A7B7@langille.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FEF849A-099E-49D7-A8F9-D7D0AA41A7B7@langille.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mithlond.kdm.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:29:06 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mithlond.kdm.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 410AE74B51 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ken@kdm.org designates 96.89.93.250 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ken@kdm.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mithlond.kdm.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[FreeBSD.ORG]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.scsiguy.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.00)[ipnet: 96.64.0.0/11(-4.23), asn: 7922(-0.69), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ken@FreeBSD.ORG,ken@kdm.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ken@FreeBSD.ORG,ken@kdm.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:29:09 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 09:49:09 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Ken Merry wrote: > > > > So, if you???re interested in newer tape drives / libraries, the connection options are FC, SAS or (lately) RoCE. The first two work fine, but I have yet to be able to test/qualify a RoCE drive with FreeBSD. For FC, get a Qlogic board (up to 16Gb is supported now) or a 16Gb or newer Emulex board. Both drivers support FC-Tape. I have had much more experience with the Qlogic driver, but the Emulex driver does seem to work fine. For SAS, get an LSI/Broadcom 12Gb or 6Gb board. They support TLR, which is the SAS equivalent of FC-Tape. > > > > The only current tape drive vendor is IBM, and you can get LTO (LTO-8 is the latest, 12TB/30TB per tape) or TS drives (TS1160 is the latest, 20TB/50TB) from them. TS only makes sense for people with a big enterprise budget. > > In my case, this is for home use, where I have no budget for tape libraries. The units I have are all production-cast-offs via kind donations. Mind you, I did buy a Digital TL891 back in 2006 and it still works. Photo of that beast here: https://www.freebsddiary.org/digital-tl891.php <--- that is the unit for which I wanted a new SCSI card, but now I think the easiest solution is to find another M/B (see below). > Very understandable. The last tape drive I actually bought myself was a standalone DDS-4 drive. Most of the rest of my personal tape hardware has been donated, and is all pretty old at this stage. (Which is useful for tape driver compatibility testing, though.) > > > > I believe HP stopped making their own tape drives at LTO-6. Anything HP-branded that is LTO-7 or newer is going to be an IBM drive under the hood. > > > > If you want a tape library, there are a number of options. I know from copious experience (yes I work there) that Spectra Logic libraries work well with FreeBSD, and their support is good. IBM should also work fine, and really, most libraries should work with FreeBSD without an issue. > > I'm using a Dell TL4000 just now, connected via a SAS card (see below). The other two tape libraries are legacy use only, for older backups. > Ahh, ok. > > If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM???s LTFS to FreeBSD: > > > > https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs > Wow, that's pretty nifty. Thanks. > > > > > You would need an IBM LTO-5 or newer tape drive. LTFS is helpful, but keep in mind it isn???t a backup package in and of itself. It doesn???t manage multiple tapes, it just gives you a filesystem on a tape. > > I can see where that might be useful for restores. Yes, it would be handy for reading one-off tapes. For regular use, though, you'd probably want something else. The performance of LTFS running via FUSE is also somewhat slow, due to the added latency of the extra trips into and out of the kernel. > > As for SCSI adapters, I have a several ahc(4) boards in a machine running FreeBSD/head and talking to SCSI and CD devices. The driver seems to work fine. > > > > One thing to consider if you???re switching machines and looking at buying new hardware, is whether your current tape library is still sufficient for your needs in terms of speed and capacity. Rather than putting the money towards an LVD to HVD converter, you could put it toward a new tape drive or library. > > The tape library in question is a DLT-7000, and it not used for active backups. It is retained only for older backups. > > Current backups are to an LTO-4 tape library, vis a SAS2308 (Avago Technologies / LSI) card. That is working well. > > I do have one M/B which has an both PCI and PCIE slots. I think the easiest short term solution is to move both cards into a chassis with that M/B. No purchase necessary. > That sounds like an ideal solution for your situation. > > > > Another thing to consider is using hard drives for backup. That might work, depending on your requirements for durability and shelf life for the media. I???m guessing that buying a number of enterprise SATA (or SAS) drives would probably be cheaper than buying even a used library, media and FC or SAS card. > > I backup to disk first, then copy to tape later. Both steps are handled by Bacula, the backup package I'm using. > Ahh. If you decide to retire the tape library later on, you can always just backup to disk and put the backup disks on the shelf. (I've been doing that for a long time, ZFS makes it pretty easy.) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 09:05:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960BA14A74E7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.blok@bsd4all.org) Received: from smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5CDA92D33 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.blok@bsd4all.org) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (helo=smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gjh8r-0006V1-7Z for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:05:45 +0100 Received: from 5ed231fb.cm-7-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.210.49.251] helo=wan0.bsd4all.org) by smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gjh8r-0005Oo-4u for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:05:45 +0100 Received: from newnas (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wan0.bsd4all.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF617FA for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:05:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bsd4all.org Received: from wan0.bsd4all.org ([127.0.0.1]) by newnas (newnas.bsd4all.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BF9bt7OnZdWA for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:05:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (unknown [192.168.1.65]) by wan0.bsd4all.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3214DEF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:05:44 +0100 (CET) From: peter.blok@bsd4all.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: iSCSI stall Message-Id: <3579EC93-825D-4908-B177-673363111BEF@bsd4all.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:05:43 +0100 To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-SourceIP: 94.210.49.251 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=aPGOVo1m c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=7fK1ynn72W3Z/oi6DA4Tww==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=X-ym7V0z0cYcq1pNt-kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E5CDA92D33 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of peter.blok@bsd4all.org designates 212.54.42.168 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=peter.blok@bsd4all.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.65)[-0.650,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:smtp.ziggo.nl/16]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.898,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[smtp.bsd4all.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.09)[-0.088,0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: NL(0.02)]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd4all.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[168.42.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[251.49.210.94.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:05:56 -0000 Hi, I have a ReadyNAS RND4000 as an iSCSI target. The target is the only = device in a ZFS pool and is receiving backups thru zfs receive. The = initiator is FreeBSD 11.x (recent stable at this moment), but this = probably happens with 12.0 as well. During a zfs receive it stalls. Nothing happens anymore. When I send a = TUR via camcontrol everything continues. Any other target on any other = platform works fine. When I take a network trace it looks as if it is around SYNCHRONIZE = CACHE. If this takes too long in the target and before the reply is back = some new READ CDBs are send, it seems to hang only showing Nop-In and = Nop-out. The moment I send a TUR it continues replying with the data of = the READs that were owed. It is not a big deal, but it irritates me and I would like to create a = work-around for this, assuming it is caused by the target and there is = probably no way to fix it there. One test was to create a quirk to = reduce the tags to 1, but that didn=E2=80=99t help. Although it is 1 it = still seems to send multiple CDB concurrently. In the past I have attempted to port FreeBSD to the ReadyNAS, but got = stuck on fan control. I wasn=E2=80=99t able to control the fan and it = made too much noise. I was able to get the network up and running. Any tips? From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 04:44:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DA3148EEEB for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3919759FE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A6F25148EEE7; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955E9148EEE6 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356E8759FA for ; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:44:59 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D225666 Oleksandr Tymoshenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gonzo@FreeBSD.org --- Comment #1 from Oleksandr Tymoshenko --- Do you still have hardware to verify the fix? --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 05:12:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63606148F9C2 for ; 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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 531F71B981 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0I5Cnu7079902 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:12:49 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x0I5Cnrq079901 for scsi@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:12:49 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 225666] WDC WDS120G2G0A-00JH30 SSD need quirks=0x3<4K,NCQ_TRIM_BROKEN> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:12:48 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.1-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: gonzo@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: attachments.mimetype attachments.ispatch attachments.created Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:12:51 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D225666 Oleksandr Tymoshenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #201227|text/x-diff |text/plain mime type| | Attachment #201227|0 |1 is patch| | --- Comment #2 from Oleksandr Tymoshenko --- Created attachment 201227 --> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D201227&action= =3Dedit wd-green-ssd-quirk.diff Patch with the quirk for WD Green SSD --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 05:16:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1997F148FB89 for ; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:16:23 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D184154 Oleksandr Tymoshenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|--- |Feedback Timeout CC| |gonzo@FreeBSD.org Status|Open |Closed --- Comment #6 from Oleksandr Tymoshenko --- No additional information provided, closing as "Feedback timeout" Thanks for reporting and sorry that PR slipped through cracks. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sat Jan 19 09:14:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E28149F1C0 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 09:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63D376FB22 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 09:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (mh0.gentlemail.de [78.138.80.135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x0J9DuZF004961; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:13:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (s1.omnilan.de [217.91.127.234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A5BA266; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:13:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations To: Scott Long , Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> From: Harry Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:13:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 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DMARC_NA(0.00)[omnilan.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx0.gentlemail.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.862,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.44)[ip: (-9.09), ipnet: 2a00:e10:2800::/38(-4.49), asn: 25074(-3.64), country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25074, ipnet:2a00:e10:2800::/38, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 09:14:06 -0000 Am 13.01.2019 um 23:27 schrieb Scott Long: > Hi Dan, > > I don’t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less HVD SCSI. You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for future tape drives. Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. > > Scott > > >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >> >> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to consolidate >> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / equivalent card >> for a PCIE slot. >> >> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 >> >> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what to search for. Not sure if I understood the problem correctly. Are you looking for HVD or LVD? The latter is no problem, there's plenty of LSI20320IE, which use the 53c1020F and a PLX PCI-X<->PCIe bridge. There's also a quiet well maintained Dell OEM firmware which added boot support improvement which I don't remeber all, but I'm running this firmware also on HP and original LSI cards (make sure to check the chip revision, there's a difference in 1030[""|"T"], while the latter is similar to 1020F – ATTENTION, please read yourself the correct numbers, just typing from memory, might not be exactly correct! (all to IT firmware, IR is another sotry, I never had a 53c1030 with Raid Firmware in operation) vhdci68->hd68 cables are no problem to get, so I guess it doesn't matter that the 20320IE has VHDCI as opposed to one card shown in your picters, which has HD68. I also used the 20320 in SE mode. No problems besides implcit SE limitations. If it's about HVD, I can't tell much.  I guess I have a RS/6000 with an HVD controller, but never found time to check/play. You can look for firmware here: ftp://ftp.omnilan.depub/firmware/ [Dell|LSI].  Somtimes I x-linked compatible images, but not for the 53c1030 as far as I could see. Best, -harry P.S.: Has anybody used HPs Tape boot firmware feature?  Always wondered how they implemented this and if it really works with what drives on what hosts... From owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sat Jan 19 09:17:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B331149F338 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 09:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CB766FBFB for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 09:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (ezra.dcm1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x0J9HAdo005017; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:17:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (s1.omnilan.de [217.91.127.234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28D3A267; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:17:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations From: Harry Schmalzbauer To: Scott Long , Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org References: <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org> Organization: OmniLAN Message-ID: <9dcf021a-4e15-199b-8c78-9009d6c632b7@omnilan.de> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:17:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]); Sat, 19 Jan 2019 10:17:10 +0100 (CET) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: ; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7CB766FBFB X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@omnilan.de designates 2a00:e10:2800::a130 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@omnilan.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.63 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[omnilan.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx0.gentlemail.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.869,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.45)[ip: (-9.11), ipnet: 2a00:e10:2800::/38(-4.51), asn: 25074(-3.64), country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25074, ipnet:2a00:e10:2800::/38, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 09:17:12 -0000 Am 19.01.2019 um 10:13 schrieb Harry Schmalzbauer: > Am 13.01.2019 um 23:27 schrieb Scott Long: >> Hi Dan, >> >> I don’t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less HVD >> SCSI.  You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for >> future tape drives.  Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those. >> >> Scott >> >> >>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>> >>> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to >>> consolidate >>> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / >>> equivalent card >>> for a PCIE slot. >>> >>> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol. >>> https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 >>> >>> >>> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what >>> to search for. > Sorry for the noise, my MUA kept all the other answers hidden... Just forget it, of course tohers already mentione LSI20320IE -harry