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ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:51:58 -0000 On 3/28/2020 4:29 AM, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 08:07:08PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 06:40:18PM +0500, Ruslan Garipov wrote: >>> I failed to update FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT amd64 r359231 to r359351. >>> >>> End of the build log: >>> >>> $ su root -c "make -j16 buildworld" >>> ... >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_cli_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_drivers_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_model_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_engine_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_utils_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_store_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_model_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_utils_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_engine_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_utils_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_model_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -llutok_pie >>> ld: error: unable to find library -lkyua_store_pie >>> ld: error: too many errors emitted, stopping now (use -error-limit=0 >>> to see all errors) >>> c++: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see >>> invocation) >>> --- all_subdir_lib --- >>> --- cpuset_getdomain.po --- >>> --- all_subdir_usr.bin --- >>> *** [kyua] Error code 1 >>> >>> make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.bin/kyua >>> 1 error >>> >>> make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/usr.bin/kyua >>> *** [all_subdir_usr.bin/kyua] Error code 2 >>> ... >>> >>> May be it's related to r359260[1]. Therefore, here is my TEST-settings: >>> >>> $ fgrep TEST /etc/src.conf >>> WITHOUT_GOOGLETEST= >>> WITHOUT_TESTS= >>> WITH_TESTS_SUPPORT= >>> >>> Also what has confused me: it's a virtual machine which failed to build. >>> A physical one built userland and kernel just fine. Both the physical >>> and virtual machines have almost the same (differ only by CPU >>> "selection" options) make.conf and src.conf and different kernel >>> configurations. Both the machines were FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT amd64 >>> r359231. I've started to build on clean systems (no /usr/obj at all). >>> >>> Can anyone help me to resolve this issue? >> >> I've replicated this issue and it goes back the the way >> WITH_TESTS_SUPPORT was implemented way back in r273449 >> >> This patch fixes WITHOUT_TESTS=t WITH_TESTS_SUPPORT=t for me. >> >> Index: Makefile.inc1 >> =================================================================== >> --- Makefile.inc1 (revision 359367) >> +++ Makefile.inc1 (working copy) >> @@ -1100,7 +1100,7 @@ >> @echo >> "--------------------------------------------------------------" >> ${_+_}cd ${.CURDIR}; \ >> ${WMAKE} -DNO_FSCHG MK_HTML=no -DNO_LINT MK_MAN=no \ >> - MK_PROFILE=no MK_TESTS=no MK_TESTS_SUPPORT=${MK_TESTS} >> libraries >> + MK_PROFILE=no MK_TESTS=no libraries >> everything: .PHONY >> @echo >> @echo >> "-------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> I've not committed it yet because I'm trying to figure out why this was >> needed. I simply don't see how there could be a race between lib/aft and >> libexec/aft as described. I suspect this may have been an error. > > I've committed a different fix in r359382. Thanks a lot! I'll try it latter. > > The above change fixed the case at hand, but broke the default. > > -- Brooks > From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 07:29:33 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7AF275AF9 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic311-23.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic311-23.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48qnK70qLSz3LHk for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: uutmYvkVM1mIUZhbczphqiDWbz9Cu7zSiW89LolMZr.tS.YQb1jS9icE01GKmYF h_RXjfzO5dFQ_Ls.ZcFwcagig4lEcPtbHEIa6dLm3cbfvPx2u.5lXeOoLBlswrJmqVFV1hbEW95g 625OkmfY15dJZVKv0i2hDRYEJhGoj7LJlyXbYX_IjSJydfD40vhc9yYHCxILrdyJGBt3lZ9_ZFwk ZtlI2I9hzanifaEkeMv2SsZAHhFYtfuBTnj0jbV4_YsIKxG5gaMhXPn9QYKBXWZjeaf2qqWTudg2 uawZzJmU7TwUcbayQJPb8KAQpN11u.CHNBm1pOYe97epivT199cL_YZrey9YeOcgDNZFckhN2axe QRWnJRKOsCbN04azx4InTWuKXTsAG1ox3iqw2WBbv.b4M3hofjBgcrseUuKq4BzKNkiz9w.12KpY VtCzC6PEeORp3MybmH7cflMpK5hBeUwzfA1lmz6OOVWvs.o4KmgFtNmTULsnjcxK7DgPVsccXbS_ Ij_VOonjOzzgoHjXEMP_z37gDmpY7h0aUDAsLb7ErUM_tk7Y7j2UxErGH9Q5QfJXmEUc7BSQUKA1 ZjxWQQdkqVTmUbP4BtcApwyC0UZD6jXNlvqzigcgGzdZBPlhbbpViw8LO15J1AyHwKgfPgmes8na EnvX1rI4tkFYaCpxXp5_S8RRSVHGReLmRQSZni9WUIDV3RBOLerIvLXBObHTOOex83ZGownSE1WM 4d8eKoqpHmGw68r5.lMfdcC9Y.6FsLBUV7yzZCskBJQjoz4zVkfVCjK92bHaZcIhIeQc1O_s_xKN 2__OdBf6txyieuU5.T_uWpScVXjxbR8Vct8t1CHhdLIO1JoiDWm_uXcOQPlgj6ZD0Ts2ra7SjjwC TOLwKb0eMEYJQm7q6_3lGFvUobt9wNTpUdABK1VaejxzZjkrjA5_dyjRVZ124yTo1XaokYy1xmBV ywZ4_GF5_VN8pJ5DaokxsYwjL.JyQnYra7QCrHkupvRjcIUcGtcU9q6CmKAlm3csDIJ.AIXgMnOQ mwxHxk3UOVQna3Eeee26Y41d37WhDJBK39loqQdpbAAzZYFban94.imBH1lTeQ5CCXSWS8TGvEt4 0PrkbtP9_u7cXUyTGhMeS1bbe9ssTUFc80SfXdx1ByxGso5ZaqVaksU3hnRQTFs8TbNw_ORjaCpc Dp6E.vtMs0V4btFDs2i.1O9hd4Fwrzp4BAF1VfNYxMbPZJCE3gkE.CR84rBIyg2DSxv9hmZrKuuR wkWIwPOCOqr2beGpcQdS5kTAJNDd7OPmID5fhUJYIYEomSSkdAmmbgI.tvlATgz9Qu0gzgiMLxR4 irpdgwZuFptEWnTHs_gvqVh2uD5_4PzELnNMI7OjBDywXIeg3sQN39Z2AlHnjR.gKRUEjNh7fj.H u1ir6SCikVdxobHFC94w- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:29:02 +0000 Received: by smtp419.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 277c1985075cca6ed984a1306091203a; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:29:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: FYI: artifact-based head bisect and OPi+2e (an armv7): -r359311 fails to boot but -r359309 boots (kernel substitutions) Message-Id: <221A0E27-6A0F-4136-AB76-2D6664279363@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 00:29:00 -0700 To: Conrad Meyer , freebsd-arm , FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) References: <221A0E27-6A0F-4136-AB76-2D6664279363.ref@yahoo.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48qnK70qLSz3LHk X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.32 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.879,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (5.38), ipnet: 98.137.64.0/21(0.82), asn: 36647(0.65), country: US(-0.05)]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[204.65.137.98.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[204.65.137.98.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:29:33 -0000 While trying to update the head version in use I ran into boot hangups on the OrangePi+ 2e and did an approximate bisect of artificact.freebsd.org kernels to find approximately which kernel version the issue started at. I found that head -r359309 boots and -r359311 fails (shown later below). The original update attempt was from -r359966 to -r359376 and -r359376 stopped there as well. (I kept world there and varied the kernel version for the approximate bisect activity.) It seems that at least one of the "MI-namespace" atomics added do not work in all its usage-contexts on the cortexA7 (armv7) involved. [I also ran into boot problems on the RPi4 (arch64 CortexA72) for the original upgrade in that context. But the RPi4 is incomplete and is not a long-established FreeBSD context. I've not tested it specifically against -r359309 and -r359311 . I'll otherwise ignore the RPi4 here, at least for now.] The OPi+2e hangups look like (a boot -v example): . . . Release APs CPU(1) applied BP hardening: not necessary CPU(3) applied BP hardening: not necessary CPU(2) applied BP hardening: not necessary regulator: shutting down unused regulators regulator: shutting down vcc3v0... Trying to mount root from = ufs:/dev/gpt/BPIM3root []... ok Root mount waiting for:regulator: shutting down vcc3v3... usbus0busy usbus2regulator: shutting down vcc5v0... usbus4ok usbus6regulator: shutting down gmac-3v3... CAMbusy uhub1: 1 port with 1 removable, self powered uhub3: 1 port with 1 removable, self powered uhub4: 1 port with 1 removable, self powered uhub6: 1 port with 1 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus6 CAM ugen6.2: at usbus6 umass0 on uhub6 umass0: on usbus6 umass0:0:0: Attached to scbus0 Root mount waiting for: CAM Root mount waiting for: CAM Root mount waiting for: CAM Root mount waiting for: CAM Root mount waiting for: CAM Root mount waiting for: CAM Root mount waiting for: CAM GEOM: new disk da0 pass0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device pass0: Serial Number REPLACED pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device da0: Serial Number REPLACED da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 228936MB (468862128 512 byte sectors) da0: quirks=3D0x2 da0: Delete methods: mountroot: waiting for device /dev/gpt/BPIM3root... random: unblocking device. rtc0: providing initial system time start_init: trying /sbin/init (And that is as far as it gets. I can break into the debugger on the console.) Notes: vfs.root.mountfrom=3D is used in /boot/loader.conf to direct the root file system to be from the USB SSD. The original kernel and world were non-debug builds. But the artifact kernels are debug builds. They did not report anything odd. (The /dev/gpt/BPIM3* based naming is from=20 repurposing media without bothering to rename things.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 11:02:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4711827AE19 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua) Received: from mail.flex-it.com.ua (mail.flex-it.com.ua [193.239.74.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48qt372xJmz4Bcg for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua) Received: from [46.98.138.171] (helo=thinkpad.flex-it.com.ua) by mail.flex-it.com.ua with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jIVhj-000EtQ-Ms for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:02:11 +0300 Subject: Re: kernel build failed To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <672d55ce-0949-2397-0a3c-3a86020381a4@shurik.kiev.ua> <20200328123542.GR1511@albert.catwhisker.org> <4ee54436-0c15-41c3-3581-053da0a08181@shurik.kiev.ua> <9E22D99A-63CB-4CCB-B3C1-3838F1769BED@FreeBSD.org> From: Alexandr Krivulya Message-ID: <1829bb5e-22aa-ca15-de07-2a930dacbe3c@shurik.kiev.ua> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:02:02 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9E22D99A-63CB-4CCB-B3C1-3838F1769BED@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: ru X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48qt372xJmz4Bcg X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua designates 193.239.74.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[shurik.kiev.ua]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RBL_NIXSPAM_FAIL(0.00)[7.74.239.193.ix.dnsbl.manitu.net:query timed out]; IP_SCORE(-3.42)[ip: (-9.04), ipnet: 193.239.72.0/22(-4.52), asn: 35297(-3.62), country: UA(0.07)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[171.138.98.46.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35297, ipnet:193.239.72.0/22, country:UA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:02:41 -0000 28.03.20 18:32, Dimitry Andric пишет: > On 28 Mar 2020, at 13:48, Alexandr Krivulya wrote: >> 28.03.20 14:35, David Wolfskill пишет: >>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 02:01:39PM +0200, Alexandr Krivulya wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> on latest CURRENT kernel fails to build: >>>> >>>> ===> aesni (all) >>>> [Creating objdir /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/aesni...] >>>> ... >>>> /usr/src/sys/crypto/aesni/aesni_ghash.c:75:10: fatal error: 'wmmintrin.h' >>>> file not found >>>> #include >>>> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> 1 error generated. >>>> *** Error code 1 >>>> .... >>> I had no issues updating from r359325 to r359356 yesterday, or from >>> r359356 to r359389 today (using META_MODE). >> So what may be a reason? I tried: >> - remove and checkout source tree >> - remove /usr/obj >> >> wmmintrin.h is present under /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Headers/wmmintrin.h >> >> /etc/make.conf: >> KERNCONF=GENERIC-NODEBUG >> MALLOC_PRODUCTION=yes >> >> no /etc/src.conf > This typically happens if you don't run "make buildworld", or at least > "make kernel-toolchain" before running "make buildkernel", and your > userland is missing those headers, for some reason. (Usually people > seem to do a WITHOUT_CLANG installation or strip out 'unnecessary' > stuff manually...) > I have updated source tree to r359419 and now make builworld failed with an error: --- Basic/Targets.o --- c++  -O2 -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/clang/libclang -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/clang/libllvm -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Driver -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/include -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/llvm/include -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -DHAVE_VCS_VERSION_INC -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=\"x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=\"x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp\" -DLLVM_TARGET_ENABLE_X86 -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPARSER=LLVMInitializeX86AsmParser -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPRINTER=LLVMInitializeX86AsmPrinter -DLLVM_NATIVE_DISASSEMBLER=LLVMInitializeX86Disassembler -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGET=LLVMInitializeX86Target -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETINFO=LLVMInitializeX86TargetInfo -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETMC=LLVMInitializeX86TargetMC -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -gline-tables-only -MD -MF.depend.Basic_Targets.o -MTBasic/Targets.o -Wno-format-zero-length -Qunused-arguments -include ../freebsd_cc_version.h -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -gline-tables-only -std=c++14 -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions   -c /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/Targets.cpp -o Basic/Targets.o --- Basic/SourceManager.o --- /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/SourceManager.cpp:1228:10: fatal error: 'emmintrin.h' file not found #include          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 error generated. *** [Basic/SourceManager.o] Error code 1 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libclang 1 error make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libclang *** [all_subdir_lib/clang/libclang] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang 1 error make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang *** [cross-tools] Error code 2 make[2]: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** [_cross-tools] Error code 2 make[1]: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildworld] Error code 2 make: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make: stopped in /usr/src From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 11:12:38 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE03327B262 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48qtGd6hq9z4Fsc for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 02TBCHeT083562; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:12:17 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 02TBCH1i083561; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 04:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 04:12:17 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Alexandr Krivulya Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel build failed Message-ID: <20200329111217.GF1511@albert.catwhisker.org> Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, Alexandr Krivulya , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <672d55ce-0949-2397-0a3c-3a86020381a4@shurik.kiev.ua> <20200328123542.GR1511@albert.catwhisker.org> <4ee54436-0c15-41c3-3581-053da0a08181@shurik.kiev.ua> <9E22D99A-63CB-4CCB-B3C1-3838F1769BED@FreeBSD.org> <1829bb5e-22aa-ca15-de07-2a930dacbe3c@shurik.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; 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ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-2.63)[ip: (-9.70), ipnet: 107.192.0.0/12(-4.85), asn: 7018(1.43), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:12:39 -0000 --CykJmXQjLoWzTnSU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 02:02:02PM +0300, Alexandr Krivulya wrote: > 28.03.20 18:32, Dimitry Andric =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > ... > > This typically happens if you don't run "make buildworld", or at least > > "make kernel-toolchain" before running "make buildkernel", and your > > userland is missing those headers, for some reason. (Usually people > > seem to do a WITHOUT_CLANG installation or strip out 'unnecessary' > > stuff manually...) > >=20 >=20 > I have updated source tree to r359419 and now make builworld failed with = an > error: >=20 > ... > --- Basic/SourceManager.o --- > /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/SourceManager.cpp:1228:10: > fatal error: 'emmintrin.h' file not found > #include > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 1 error generated. > *** [Basic/SourceManager.o] Error code 1 > .... Perhaps it would be helpful for you specify precisely what commands you invoked once the source tree was updated. For example, the process I use is documented in http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/upgrade.html Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Trump on sale of GM's Lordstown, OH plant: "GREAT NEWS FOR OHIO!" May 2019 "MUST immediately open their stupidly abandoned Lordstown ...." March 2020 See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --CykJmXQjLoWzTnSU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAl6AgpFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 Pcm8OAgAntyExmGRVBTmA7Pt3kXs+YXTEuJ2MmId4dr+eHCuTJM4ppIhHtlU+yTe BAxNnJxU0/HFXRmsG4AfRjO122Y4Bm5iJSUM069vQwXwsZTh8NRol1Tr1+Mr4zXj jkFpA01oW6clrqP2JibXBSX4Kr856ubKwggZu4Pbx44UCc87CtS4wqf0ofJODQAd K8KkrfQQBhGVT/yJKNYleuZIDjfdIzHOpBztEkjNoV5I2KeoEyR+TFvk+rXR3+lt 8n4zKGoyUfsXtN9WgGHjim0kgtCNcNPi6+AaEZFGNDWbA0LU495zrzUMQWaU2JZH X8WWolk70j1+s2ZpVxA48CRjhGeoVQ== =O7J0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CykJmXQjLoWzTnSU-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 11:41:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B8827BE30 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua) Received: from mail.flex-it.com.ua (mail.flex-it.com.ua [193.239.74.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48qtwQ2zmnz4R7l for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua) Received: from [46.98.138.171] (helo=thinkpad.flex-it.com.ua) by mail.flex-it.com.ua with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jIWJr-000GDK-K4 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:41:35 +0300 Subject: Re: kernel build failed To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <672d55ce-0949-2397-0a3c-3a86020381a4@shurik.kiev.ua> <20200328123542.GR1511@albert.catwhisker.org> <4ee54436-0c15-41c3-3581-053da0a08181@shurik.kiev.ua> <9E22D99A-63CB-4CCB-B3C1-3838F1769BED@FreeBSD.org> <1829bb5e-22aa-ca15-de07-2a930dacbe3c@shurik.kiev.ua> <20200329111217.GF1511@albert.catwhisker.org> From: Alexandr Krivulya Message-ID: <63e186dd-17c1-ce36-099d-3228b1a639ed@shurik.kiev.ua> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:41:30 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200329111217.GF1511@albert.catwhisker.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48qtwQ2zmnz4R7l X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua designates 193.239.74.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.73 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[171.138.98.46.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[shurik.kiev.ua]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.43)[ip: (-9.07), ipnet: 193.239.72.0/22(-4.54), asn: 35297(-3.63), country: UA(0.07)]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35297, ipnet:193.239.72.0/22, country:UA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:41:53 -0000 29.03.20 14:12, David Wolfskill пишет: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 02:02:02PM +0300, Alexandr Krivulya wrote: >> 28.03.20 18:32, Dimitry Andric пишет: >> ... >>> This typically happens if you don't run "make buildworld", or at least >>> "make kernel-toolchain" before running "make buildkernel", and your >>> userland is missing those headers, for some reason. (Usually people >>> seem to do a WITHOUT_CLANG installation or strip out 'unnecessary' >>> stuff manually...) >>> >> I have updated source tree to r359419 and now make builworld failed with an >> error: >> >> ... >> --- Basic/SourceManager.o --- >> /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/SourceManager.cpp:1228:10: >> fatal error: 'emmintrin.h' file not found >> #include >>          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> 1 error generated. >> *** [Basic/SourceManager.o] Error code 1 >> .... > Perhaps it would be helpful for you specify precisely what commands you > invoked once the source tree was updated. > > For example, the process I use is documented in > http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/upgrade.html > Nothing specific, I use this scenario for years: svnlite up /usr/src rm -rf /usr/obj cd /usr/src make buildworld make kernel mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster -Ui reboot make delete-old make delete-old-libs From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 12:03:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1D227CD8D for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48qvP23KWDz4Z2Z; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (tensor.andric.com [87.251.56.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "tensor.andric.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: dim) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 435B919F6E; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:7a58::c4c6:21d:89e:cb28] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:0:c4c6:21d:89e:cb28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 66C455AD36; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:56:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1E25C698-063A-4B43-8E10-A394F073D31F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) Subject: Re: kernel build failed Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:55:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1829bb5e-22aa-ca15-de07-2a930dacbe3c@shurik.kiev.ua> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org To: Alexandr Krivulya References: <672d55ce-0949-2397-0a3c-3a86020381a4@shurik.kiev.ua> <20200328123542.GR1511@albert.catwhisker.org> <4ee54436-0c15-41c3-3581-053da0a08181@shurik.kiev.ua> <9E22D99A-63CB-4CCB-B3C1-3838F1769BED@FreeBSD.org> <1829bb5e-22aa-ca15-de07-2a930dacbe3c@shurik.kiev.ua> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:03:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1E25C698-063A-4B43-8E10-A394F073D31F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 29 Mar 2020, at 13:02, Alexandr Krivulya = wrote: >=20 > 28.03.20 18:32, Dimitry Andric =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> On 28 Mar 2020, at 13:48, Alexandr Krivulya = wrote: ... >> This typically happens if you don't run "make buildworld", or at = least >> "make kernel-toolchain" before running "make buildkernel", and your >> userland is missing those headers, for some reason. (Usually people >> seem to do a WITHOUT_CLANG installation or strip out 'unnecessary' >> stuff manually...) >>=20 >=20 > I have updated source tree to r359419 and now make builworld failed = with an error: >=20 > --- Basic/Targets.o --- > c++ -O2 -pipe = -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/clang/libclang = -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/clang/libllvm = -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic = -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Driver = -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/include = -I/usr/src/lib/clang/include = -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/llvm/include -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS = -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -DHAVE_VCS_VERSION_INC = -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=3D\"x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0\" = -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=3D\"x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0\" = -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=3D\"/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp\" = -DLLVM_TARGET_ENABLE_X86 = -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPARSER=3DLLVMInitializeX86AsmParser = -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPRINTER=3DLLVMInitializeX86AsmPrinter = -DLLVM_NATIVE_DISASSEMBLER=3DLLVMInitializeX86Disassembler = -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGET=3DLLVMInitializeX86Target = -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETINFO=3DLLVMInitializeX86TargetInfo = -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETMC=3DLLVMInitializeX86TargetMC -ffunction-sections = -fdata-sections -gline-tables-only -MD -MF.depend.Basic_Targets.o = -MTBasic/Targets.o -Wno-format-zero-length -Qunused-arguments -include = ../freebsd_cc_version.h = -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include -fno-exceptions = -fno-rtti -gline-tables-only -std=3Dc++14 -stdlib=3Dlibc++ = -Wno-c++11-extensions -c = /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/Targets.cpp -o = Basic/Targets.o > --- Basic/SourceManager.o --- > = /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/SourceManager.cpp:1228:10: = fatal error: 'emmintrin.h' file not found > #include > ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ If this happens during the cross-tools stage (stage 3), then your base system's toolchain is missing some components. Can you check whether the directory /usr/lib/clang/x.y.z exists, where x.y.z is the version printed by "cc -v" ? If that directory does not exist, the easiest fix is probably to use a toolchain port to bootstrap, or alternatively restore the toolchain directories from a 13-CURRENT snapshot. -Dimitry --Apple-Mail=_1E25C698-063A-4B43-8E10-A394F073D31F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.2 iF0EARECAB0WIQR6tGLSzjX8bUI5T82wXqMKLiCWowUCXoCMywAKCRCwXqMKLiCW oxPyAKDg/dZzsRS+beCQ6RIq+MSZxb+CcACcDGWS9VeYQjKOFA4TZBvA5Wjt3hg= =u/W6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1E25C698-063A-4B43-8E10-A394F073D31F-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 13:36:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFDD27F31D for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [176.74.240.9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48qxSx04P7z3QN3 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from router.digiware.nl (localhost.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD2211EA; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:36:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.com Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by router.digiware.nl (router.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z6eOZ35emIYp; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:36:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.9] (vaio [192.168.10.9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E598C11E9 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:36:22 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd current From: Willem Jan Withagen Subject: Trying to compiles today Current Message-ID: <836fe62d-2e0f-646b-7142-d598f9c33c64@digiware.nl> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:36:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: nl X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48qxSx04P7z3QN3 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wjw@digiware.nl designates 176.74.240.9 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wjw@digiware.nl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[digiware.nl]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[9.240.74.176.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.20)[ip: (-9.78), ipnet: 176.74.224.0/19(-4.89), asn: 28878(-1.38), country: NL(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:28878, ipnet:176.74.224.0/19, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:36:43 -0000 I keep getting errors in building my ports from portsbuilder. But it is with Current/Clang10. So I'm trying to get a server at that level, but building world keeps giving me: --- all_subdir_cddl --- ld: error: /usr/obj/usr/srcs/head/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib/libuutil.so: undefined reference to __assfail cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) *** [zfs.full] Error code 1 Completely cleared src and obj, but the error persists. Current on this system is: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #0 r358358: Thu Feb 27 04:40:39 UTC 2020 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC How to fix this? --WjW From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 15:50:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ED22A3108 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from dec.sakura.ne.jp (dec.sakura.ne.jp [210.188.226.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48r0RP1W6Bz3GpS for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from kalamity.joker.local (124-18-96-116.dz.commufa.jp [124.18.96.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by dec.sakura.ne.jp (8.15.2/8.15.2/[SAKURA-WEB]/20080708) with ESMTPA id 02TCBcMq001807; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:11:38 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:11:37 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? Message-Id: <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> Reply-To: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48r0RP1W6Bz3GpS X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp has no SPF policy when checking 210.188.226.8) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.18 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[116.96.18.124.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9370, ipnet:210.188.224.0/19, country:JP]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_SEM_FAIL(0.00)[8.226.188.210.bl.spameatingmonkey.net:query timed out]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(1.78)[ipnet: 210.188.224.0/19(4.95), asn: 9370(3.93), country: JP(0.05)]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:50:43 -0000 On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:57:21 -0700 Chris wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:07:38 +0200 Toomas Soome tsoome@me.com said > (snip) > Thank you very much for your reply, Toomas. > > How loader is working is that it does search for *first* $B!H(Busable$B!I(B freebsd > > partition and will use it. Usable is defined as having /boot/loader.efi. > Yes, I understand how this is currently implemented. :) Some explanation about the boot order by boot1.efi. 1. Try the drive where running boot1.efi is read from. 2. If failed, try drives as recognized by UEFI firmware. On each drive, ZFS pool is tried first, and if all fail, or nonexistent, UFS partitions are tried in partition No.order. > > Therefore, you may have 2 or more freebsd instances on the disk, it really > > does not matter, only first is used. If you have multiple disks, you can have > > different order on second disk. > Just a thought along these lines... If, for every install, an additional efi > ESP were created (how it's done now). If the search were for the *first* > usable freebsd slice/partition were done incrementally, that is, counting > from the ESPs current location on disk. It would more often than not, > find the install that created ESP it's working from. Just one possibility > that could be done at near zero cost. IIUC, UEFI firmware recognizes ESP only on first partition on the disk. Some implementation could recongnize first non-top ESP, or even multiple ESPs, but it's NOT promissing for ALL FIRMWARES IN THE WILD. At worst, some firmwares could hesitate to boot from disk having non-top ESP or multiple ESPs. > > Why it is so? We do build loader.efi and we do copy it to the ESP, and > > currently there is no way to tell where is the root file system. > See above. > > > > How could we tell where from to load the OS? Well, there are few options to > > think about: > > > > 1. record the hint into the loader.efi binary - this would need special > > installer and would break signing. > > 2. record EFI variable - it should reflect OS instance version and that > > version should be bound with specific loader binary. Coordination is pain > > there. > > 3. record partition to loader.env file > > > > The current loader code is reading "/efi/freebsd/loader.env$B!I(B from ESP. IMO > > this sounds most promising, but would need support from installer or manual > > setup. Would work as is with multiple ESP instances. Would need versioned > > /efi/freebsdXX directories for single shared ESP and installer update. > > > > 4. We still do have BE menu in loader, populated automatically from zfs > > snapshots. It can be complemented with entries from file based index (I wrote > > about that idea already). This would allow to create simple switch to > > different instance or initiate chain load of third party boot loader. > Only drawback is that it is limited to zfs(8). > Other thoughts that come to mind: > - embedding the GUID hash into the loader that points to the new install. > - menu, similar to the BE menu you indicated above. > - adding an additional jump in the UEFI entry already created for the install > that points to the install associated with the newly added loader. 3. based solution looks good to me. IMHO, assuming /efi/bootx[64|32].efi is boot1.efi or loader.efi or EFI environment pointing to either one is properly used, *Use single ESP on the top of drive. *loader.env in unversioned /efi/freebsd contains common settings, including partition / pool list for loader menu. *loader.env in versioned /efi/freebsd** contains version-specific settings only and should not contain partition / pool list. This is because settings there could be missed on upgrading base. *Whichever boot1.efi or loader.efi reads loader.env in unversioned /efi/freebsd and show boot partition selection menu. would be fine. As Warner noted, lua code could be used for loader.efi case. > Lastly. It appears that much of what we're currently using was simply > hijacked from Linux. Why? We're not a Linux. The UEFI spec is fairly broad, > and gives much leeway for implementing something quite exotic, if we were > so inclined. > > Thanks again, for all the time you put into your reply, Toomas! :) > > --Chris > > > > just few bits, > > toomas > > > > >> > > > > That is; not without dropping (snip) > > >> > > Again, not needed. Though there may be a few things that need to be > > > MFC'd > > >> > if you want 11 on that list... > > >> > > > > There *may* be hope in the future ( > > >> > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=207940) > > >> > > > > >> > > This would require you to stop to select on the way up... Or am I not > > >> > understanding what you want? Current patch has 10 seconds timeout and defaults to in-tree boot1.efi behavior, if not user specified one. IIRC, last version applicable to stable/11 has it, too. > > >> > > We should add that functionality to loader.efi, since boot1.efi is in > > > the > > >> > process of being deprecated... It should be a simple LUA script there... > > > Isn't everything confined to stand/ ? > > > I'd like to try and write all this so that FreeBSD performs EFI/ESP booting > > > in a more intuitive way. It seems odd to me, that I can install Windows, and > > > it'll add FreeBSD to the (efi) boot menu, but not vis-a-vis. > > > > > > --Chris > > >> > > > > Thanks again, Andrey. 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Or has anyone an idea how to solve this problem? 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charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48r3HQ6CG4z4ZBD X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.78 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.83)[-0.833,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:54.200.0.0/15, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:58:48 -0000 On Sun, 2020-03-29 at 09:44 -0700, Thomas Skibo wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:29:00AM -0700, Mark Millard via freebsd- > arm wrote: > > While trying to update the head version > > in use I ran into boot hangups on the > > OrangePi+ 2e and did an approximate > > bisect of artificact.freebsd.org kernels > > to find approximately which kernel > > version the issue started at. > > > > I found that head -r359309 boots and > > -r359311 fails (shown later below). > > The original update attempt was from > > -r359966 to -r359376 and -r359376 > > stopped there as well. (I kept world > > there and varied the kernel version > > for the approximate bisect activity.) > > > > It seems that at least one of the > > "MI-namespace" atomics added do not work > > in all its usage-contexts on the cortexA7 > > (armv7) involved. > > It looks like my previous reply didn't go to the mailing lists. I'm > new to > mutt. > > Anyway, I looked at this problem yesterday and it seems r359311 > enables > using some atomic operations that were not being used until now. In > particular, atomic_fcmpset_8() seems broken and hangs up > in vm_page_bits_swap(). I think I have a fix but I want to run it > by Ian. > > --Thomas > > Index: sys/arm/include/atomic-v6.h > =================================================================== > --- sys/arm/include/atomic-v6.h (revision 359412) > +++ sys/arm/include/atomic-v6.h (working copy) > @@ -196,7 +196,7 @@ > \ > __asm __volatile( \ > "1: ldrex" SUF " %[tmp], [%[ptr]] \n" \ > - " ldr %[ret], [%[oldv]] \n" \ > + " ldr" SUF " %[ret], [%[oldv]] \n" \ > " teq %[tmp], %[ret] \n" \ > " ittee ne \n" \ > " str" SUF "ne %[tmp], [%[oldv]] \n" \ > I've committed this fix as r359423, thanks! -- Ian From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 23:18:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D6267AB0 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 23:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from out01.mta.xmission.com (out01.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rBNG4DF5z4f0P for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 23:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from in02.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.52]) by out01.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jIhBu-0000To-NZ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:18:06 -0600 Received: from mta3.zcs.xmission.com ([166.70.13.67]) by in02.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1jIhBu-0001TQ-4H; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:18:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta3.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CBA161DD3; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:18:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mta3.zcs.xmission.com Received: from mta3.zcs.xmission.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta3.zcs.xmission.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id UUpomrVSFL5w; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:18:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.10.120] (muon.bluestop.org [65.103.231.193]) (Authenticated sender: rebecca@bsdio.com) by mta3.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4E8C161DD2; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:18:05 -0600 (MDT) To: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> From: Rebecca Cran Message-ID: <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:18:04 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-XM-SPF: eid=1jIhBu-0001TQ-4H; ; ; mid=<40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com>; ; ; hst=in02.mta.xmission.com; ; ; ip=166.70.13.67; ; ; frm=rebecca@bsdio.com; ; ; spf=pass X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.70.13.67 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rebecca@bsdio.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sa07.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,TR_Symld_Words,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG,TooManyTo_001 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.4998] * 0.3 TooManyTo_001 Multiple "To" Header Recipients 2x (uncommon) * 1.5 TR_Symld_Words too many words that have symbols inside * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa07 1397; IP=ok Body=1 Fuz1=1] [Fuz2=1] X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa07 1397; IP=ok Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: *;junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 282 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.07 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 11 (4.0%), b_tie_ro: 10 (3.5%), parse: 1.08 (0.4%), extract_message_metadata: 4.4 (1.6%), get_uri_detail_list: 0.61 (0.2%), tests_pri_-1000: 2.6 (0.9%), tests_pri_-950: 1.37 (0.5%), tests_pri_-900: 1.10 (0.4%), tests_pri_-90: 63 (22.4%), check_bayes: 61 (21.7%), b_tokenize: 6 (2.0%), b_tok_get_all: 6 (2.0%), b_comp_prob: 1.85 (0.7%), b_tok_touch_all: 45 (16.0%), b_finish: 0.94 (0.3%), tests_pri_0: 183 (65.1%), check_dkim_signature: 0.53 (0.2%), check_dkim_adsp: 25 (8.8%), poll_dns_idle: 18 (6.5%), tests_pri_10: 2.7 (1.0%), tests_pri_500: 8 (2.9%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? X-Spam-Flag: No X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 05 May 2016 13:38:54 -0600) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rBNG4DF5z4f0P X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rebecca@bsdio.com designates 166.70.13.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rebecca@bsdio.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.952,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[231.13.70.166.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.70.13.0/24]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdio.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.947,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[231.13.70.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6315, ipnet:166.70.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ip: (-1.52), ipnet: 166.70.0.0/16(1.75), asn: 6315(1.40), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 23:18:30 -0000 On 3/29/20 6:11 AM, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > 3. based solution looks good to me. > > IMHO, assuming /efi/bootx[64|32].efi is boot1.efi or loader.efi > or EFI environment pointing to either one is properly used, That's another thing: we should be installing loader.efi as \efi\boot\bootx64.efi (as well as \boot\freebsd\loader.efi) since it's entirely possible to lose the Boot Manager entry and end up with an unbootable system as a result. Unfortunately people have had bad experiences with other operating systems overwriting bootx64.efi and don't believe we should do that. Perhaps I just need to come up with a proof of concept or demo to show that it is possible without breaking other OSes. -- Rebecca Cran From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 01:50:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D847126B992 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 01:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rFm91GDkz4bfZ for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 01:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 02U1WwOI053775; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 02U1WvJo053774; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202003300132.02U1WvJo053774@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? In-Reply-To: <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> To: Rebecca Cran Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) CC: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, bsd-lists@BSDforge.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rFm91GDkz4bfZ X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net has no SPF policy when checking 69.59.192.140) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.64 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.28)[0.275,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (0.13), ipnet: 69.59.192.0/19(0.07), asn: 13868(0.03), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.43)[0.429,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 01:50:56 -0000 > On 3/29/20 6:11 AM, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > > > > 3. based solution looks good to me. > > > > IMHO, assuming /efi/bootx[64|32].efi is boot1.efi or loader.efi > > or EFI environment pointing to either one is properly used, > > > That's another thing: we should be installing loader.efi as > \efi\boot\bootx64.efi (as well as \boot\freebsd\loader.efi) since it's > entirely possible to lose the Boot Manager entry and end up with an > unbootable system as a result. Unfortunately people have had bad > experiences with other operating systems overwriting bootx64.efi and > don't believe we should do that. > > > Perhaps I just need to come up with a proof of concept or demo to show > that it is possible without breaking other OSes. Yes please. > Rebecca Cran -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 02:10:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673ED26CB5A for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rGBX4BDZz3FT4 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qv1-f41.google.com (mail-qv1-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B01E51187 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qv1-f41.google.com with SMTP id c28so8161269qvb.10 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3XriyMPZ1w1uf80xqsMYksp4jzEax0k9U3+CMAsmKDwPxjl8h8 8wW6pUK3jJjdSGNU4hqnmZXqsbgJjPnaT/4HuQc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vu+o0PdX/4BujdpqvC8/CXOxbkz3pYSjI9VZDu7XDoXQ3yeef2IMxxYZ+9pcB3aD/TPAAsoWrQa+Lx+JRdtkXQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:12c1:: with SMTP id s1mr9469007qvv.150.1585534202657; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> In-Reply-To: <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> From: Kyle Evans Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:09:51 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? To: Rebecca Cran Cc: Tomoaki AOKI , FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:10:16 -0000 On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:19 PM Rebecca Cran wrote: > > On 3/29/20 6:11 AM, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > > > > 3. based solution looks good to me. > > > > IMHO, assuming /efi/bootx[64|32].efi is boot1.efi or loader.efi > > or EFI environment pointing to either one is properly used, > > > That's another thing: we should be installing loader.efi as > \efi\boot\bootx64.efi (as well as \boot\freebsd\loader.efi) since it's > entirely possible to lose the Boot Manager entry and end up with an > unbootable system as a result. Unfortunately people have had bad > experiences with other operating systems overwriting bootx64.efi and > don't believe we should do that. > I have mixed feelings about this -- symlinks don't exist on FAT, right? So then the maintenance overhead goes up, as you can always replace \EFI\FreeBSD\ bits, but you need to make sure \EFI\BOOT components are actually 100% without-a-doubt yours before you replace them. I'd be in favor of installing to \EFI\BOOT\... as well if and only if the file doesn't already exist, assuming we can figure out how to make it not a maintenance nightmare -- which I suspect would just mean that we have some tool that users use to update the ESP rather than instructing them to examine/replace files manually. Thanks, Kyle Evans From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 02:20:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D0126D346 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from out01.mta.xmission.com (out01.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rGQM0S44z3JtP; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from in01.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.51]) by out01.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jIk2A-00062M-NM; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:20:14 -0600 Received: from mta5.zcs.xmission.com ([166.70.13.69]) by in01.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1jIk29-00073G-Cr; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:20:14 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta5.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8121280B55; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:20:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mta5.zcs.xmission.com Received: from mta5.zcs.xmission.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta5.zcs.xmission.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id wwvsyUAQoXKt; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.10.120] (c-174-52-16-57.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [174.52.16.57]) by mta5.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2B86128071E; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:20:12 -0600 (MDT) To: Kyle Evans Cc: Tomoaki AOKI , FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> From: Rebecca Cran Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:20:12 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-XM-SPF: eid=1jIk29-00073G-Cr; ; ; mid=; ; ; hst=in01.mta.xmission.com; ; ; ip=166.70.13.69; ; ; frm=rebecca@bsdio.com; ; ; spf=pass X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.70.13.69 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rebecca@bsdio.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sa03.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,TR_Symld_Words,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.4937] * 1.5 TR_Symld_Words too many words that have symbols inside * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa03 1397; IP=ok Body=1 Fuz1=1] [Fuz2=1] X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa03 1397; IP=ok Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: *;Kyle Evans X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 425 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.03 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 4.7 (1.1%), b_tie_ro: 3.2 (0.7%), parse: 1.22 (0.3%), extract_message_metadata: 4.6 (1.1%), get_uri_detail_list: 0.73 (0.2%), tests_pri_-1000: 2.5 (0.6%), tests_pri_-950: 1.09 (0.3%), tests_pri_-900: 0.87 (0.2%), tests_pri_-90: 63 (14.9%), check_bayes: 62 (14.6%), b_tokenize: 4.4 (1.0%), b_tok_get_all: 5 (1.2%), b_comp_prob: 1.39 (0.3%), b_tok_touch_all: 48 (11.4%), b_finish: 0.73 (0.2%), tests_pri_0: 336 (78.9%), check_dkim_signature: 0.39 (0.1%), check_dkim_adsp: 180 (42.3%), poll_dns_idle: 174 (40.9%), tests_pri_10: 2.4 (0.6%), tests_pri_500: 7 (1.5%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? 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Or if, as you say, we can determine that it's _our_ bootx64.efi! That's pretty simple, since we have strings such as "FreeBSD/amd64 EFI loader, Revision 1.1" in the binary. We'll also want to embed a better version string to determine that it's our bootx64.efi _and_ for a version of FreeBSD that we're wanting to update. -- Rebecca Cran From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 02:34:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268BD26DDD5 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rGk05MwWz3PZs; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (unknown [IPv6:2605:e000:1314:5ea:997:9b2d:670b:d84d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: nwhitehorn/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25560153C; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? To: Kyle Evans , Rebecca Cran Cc: Tomoaki AOKI , FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> From: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:33:49 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:34:02 -0000 On 2020-03-29 19:09, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:19 PM Rebecca Cran wrote: >> On 3/29/20 6:11 AM, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: >> >>> 3. based solution looks good to me. >>> >>> IMHO, assuming /efi/bootx[64|32].efi is boot1.efi or loader.efi >>> or EFI environment pointing to either one is properly used, >> >> That's another thing: we should be installing loader.efi as >> \efi\boot\bootx64.efi (as well as \boot\freebsd\loader.efi) since it's >> entirely possible to lose the Boot Manager entry and end up with an >> unbootable system as a result. Unfortunately people have had bad >> experiences with other operating systems overwriting bootx64.efi and >> don't believe we should do that. >> > I have mixed feelings about this -- symlinks don't exist on FAT, > right? So then the maintenance overhead goes up, as you can always > replace \EFI\FreeBSD\ bits, but you need to make sure \EFI\BOOT > components are actually 100% without-a-doubt yours before you replace > them. > > I'd be in favor of installing to \EFI\BOOT\... as well if and only if > the file doesn't already exist, assuming we can figure out how to make > it not a maintenance nightmare -- which I suspect would just mean that > we have some tool that users use to update the ESP rather than > instructing them to examine/replace files manually. > > Thanks, > > Kyle Evans > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It's basically this that has been the problem: we need a way to manage updates of the EFI loader in this situation, which we don't currently have. The ESP needs to be mounted at a standard point, installworld/freebsd-update/etc. need to know to replace files there, we need to fall back cleanly on older systems, etc. The original (failed -- and I wrote it) concept with boot1.efi was that we could install a shim that never needs updates, which avoids needing to think about these things, but that didn't work ideally. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 02:54:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9538126EC33 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjg@juniper.net) Received: from mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com (mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com [208.84.65.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.pphosted.com", Issuer "Thawte RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rH8n55YXz42GF for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjg@juniper.net) Received: from pps.filterd (m0108159.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 02U2r0NY016867; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:53:00 -0700 Received: from nam12-dm6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-dm6nam12lp2168.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.59.168]) by mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 3024hxj237-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:53:00 -0700 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=lBk0sVAigTt+gT33bL20w84ZWvqKlVMfBRTnOLz6r/UVOzLokWFVNhVTnVO+S5N42iZKwiQAkI2Ecj0s7HyBNiImdROvB727E+PiVn5Uj/am7pZg499gsKY4Ks+qjvG2gNwJOSZfkSVWCOScrgCKxFSrkBq/JjdNOgSzg1+xEJSEG4oTGQyyBUCvwPlq3KAxuAHj2quPIyadm41b9ocJJrsN2ORptkZU0yjjCwQ/94B/c1kLiTNkN4Rh4FRrbggsRP+7dJNjiDRRM+d7aW6n8NUYXLXuk4vnjnFQrch5iZ+BnsRavw1/7uW2WBxN+shRik2IoZFZr1gOxPQshS0h8A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=QlciV+0x0FZmCNlQ7d5xZa3wTWweOQBiYyO6zgbKw2w=; b=GCbRj0sbKj6DDvLVkYlCGtoD9lNHurjjnWb9o8cYoEfJYQ0HHKyjdLcomkpENGNRF//3ZpoytEM9Ik+9k8wYnoID5f86zOYsyBO4t9PLslVSbktEiQb865Q1JNxHUwE+Uaa2e9KLuSzgjrRPEVqnvP8X7OuEAfkig46Ssr6wb3HijWCLTElKkXVZPY6GJsd3A8cCJCrlUOLk02iWVf3my+H6PJg8uZT5h3PyjI25z5ncGMbFWecijtdH9yR74/Mw06XPe7I+1rOFYLOn/98OKMdV1lB+vnCd7pTWNjh8/KN7NhWX3/zylH2ZpeSZcLovWamcwbRHKrdNTTVw1yEcMg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=softfail (sender ip is 66.129.242.12) smtp.rcpttodomain=freebsd.org smtp.mailfrom=juniper.net; dmarc=fail (p=reject sp=reject pct=100) action=oreject header.from=juniper.net; dkim=none (message not signed); arc=none Received: from MWHPR03CA0004.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:300:117::14) by BYAPR05MB4341.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03::21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2878.13; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:52:56 +0000 Received: from CO1NAM05FT053.eop-nam05.prod.protection.outlook.com (2603:10b6:300:117:cafe::9e) by MWHPR03CA0004.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:300:117::14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2856.19 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:52:56 +0000 Received-SPF: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning juniper.net discourages use of 66.129.242.12 as permitted sender) Received: from P-EXFEND-EQX-01.jnpr.net (66.129.242.12) by CO1NAM05FT053.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.96.169) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.2878.11 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:52:55 +0000 Received: from P-EXBEND-EQX-01.jnpr.net (10.104.8.52) by P-EXFEND-EQX-01.jnpr.net (10.104.8.54) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:52:39 -0700 Received: from P-EXBEND-EQX-01.jnpr.net (10.104.8.52) by P-EXBEND-EQX-01.jnpr.net (10.104.8.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:52:38 -0700 Received: from p-mailhub01.juniper.net (10.104.20.6) by P-EXBEND-EQX-01.jnpr.net (10.104.8.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2 via Frontend Transport; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:52:38 -0700 Received: from kaos.jnpr.net (kaos.jnpr.net [172.23.50.162]) by p-mailhub01.juniper.net (8.14.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id 02U2qatl011688; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:52:37 -0700 (envelope-from sjg@juniper.net) Received: by kaos.jnpr.net (Postfix, from userid 1377) id 9C2BA3D1F2; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kaos.jnpr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kaos.jnpr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA213D1F1; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:52:36 -0700 (PDT) To: Rebecca Cran CC: , , , Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? 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Unfortunately people have had bad > experiences with other operating systems overwriting bootx64.efi and > don't believe we should do that. FWIW I use loader.efi from head, installed as /efi/boot/bootx64.efi and it works just fine, by simply defining PATH_BOOTABLE_TOKEN to something that marks our (junos) bootable filesystems, no other change is needed. >From secure boot point of view, that's perfect. bootx64.efi has to be signed specially for the BIOS, and it verifies everything else, so the same ESP content "just works" with stable/11,12,... 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In-Reply-To: <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to: Nathan Whitehorn message dated "Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:33:49 -0700." From: "Simon J. 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The ESP needs to be mounted at a standard point, > installworld/freebsd-update/etc. need to know to replace files there, we > need to fall back cleanly on older systems, etc. The original (failed -- Actually if you are doing secure boot, the *last* thing you want is to update /efi/boot with an unsigned update. So I would think it should be done as a unique operation - do you don't do it accidentally. At least that's how I'm handling it for embedded devices. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 03:11:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFD526F8A3 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rHYB39q2z48C8; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (unknown [IPv6:2605:e000:1314:5ea:997:9b2d:670b:d84d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: nwhitehorn/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9F6018F1; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? To: "Simon J. Gerraty" Cc: Kyle Evans , Rebecca Cran , Tomoaki AOKI , FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> <16728.1585537356@kaos.jnpr.net> From: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:11:16 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <16728.1585537356@kaos.jnpr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:11:27 -0000 On 2020-03-29 20:02, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> It's basically this that has been the problem: we need a way to manage >> updates of the EFI loader in this situation, which we don't currently >> have. The ESP needs to be mounted at a standard point, >> installworld/freebsd-update/etc. need to know to replace files there, we >> need to fall back cleanly on older systems, etc. The original (failed -- > Actually if you are doing secure boot, the *last* thing you want is to > update /efi/boot with an unsigned update. > > So I would think it should be done as a unique operation - do you don't > do it accidentally. > > At least that's how I'm handling it for embedded devices. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The problem then is that we have treated loader as a continuously-updatable part of the OS, like the kernel, and the update system and development process assumes they get updated in sync. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 03:15:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FF426FAAF for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from out02.mta.xmission.com (out02.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rHds2V42z49j2; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from in02.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.52]) by out02.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jIktQ-0002Vf-D2; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:15:16 -0600 Received: from mta4.zcs.xmission.com ([166.70.13.68]) by in02.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1jIktP-0003rM-K7; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:15:16 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta4.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A34500963; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:15:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mta4.zcs.xmission.com Received: from mta4.zcs.xmission.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta4.zcs.xmission.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id T0mxOZo2zmSI; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:15:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.10.145] (c-174-52-16-57.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [174.52.16.57]) by mta4.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3130650069C; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:15:15 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Rebecca Cran Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:15:14 -0600 Message-Id: <4C050E22-E571-47ED-87A1-FE1BAC69A073@bsdio.com> References: <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> Cc: "Simon J. 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But at the moment how often do users mount the ESP and update loader.efi on i= t? So it seems it rarely _needs_ to be updated at the moment. =E2=80=94=20 Rebecca Cran=20= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 03:22:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB73426FF3F for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rHnM1Mgsz4Cwh; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qk1-f169.google.com (mail-qk1-f169.google.com [209.85.222.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 164A31A27; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qk1-f169.google.com with SMTP id i6so17626701qke.1; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:21:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2gmFOreLWGXpvej07/ZfcfEsiQV4bAjD82h32LdBn5deSOa744 ODP6YnINsMhH/N36UmXLvp6DWej6KBUVoCBdiJ0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvJNCzoQGz2CWagtnxYTnHYGhSENr/1Xag9kZMxptlDJp9WX8PXc4L8v9fbWwYzUC1qtlUoAKH8MHlHjDG8SUQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1301:: with SMTP id o1mr9690542qkj.34.1585538508348; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:21:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> <4C050E22-E571-47ED-87A1-FE1BAC69A073@bsdio.com> In-Reply-To: <4C050E22-E571-47ED-87A1-FE1BAC69A073@bsdio.com> From: Kyle Evans Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 22:21:37 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? To: Rebecca Cran Cc: Nathan Whitehorn , "Simon J. Gerraty" , Tomoaki AOKI , FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:22:03 -0000 On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:16 PM Rebecca Cran wrote: > > > > On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > > > The problem then is that we have treated loader as a > > continuously-updatable part of the OS, like the kernel, and the update > > system and development process assumes they get updated in sync. > > But at the moment how often do users mount the ESP and update loader.efi on it? So it seems it rarely _needs_ to be updated at the moment. > The interpreter developer in me wants this to be more frequent than it probably is. =-) Right now, we have to plan on optionally supporting any new features that we end up adding to the interpreter itself (e.g. lua C modules). I can think of one at the moment that will be joining us in the coming months -- while a bad example because this particular module will only be presented if the system supports it, it'd be nice to not have to have optional shims for old loaders for years on end. 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So it seems it rarely _needs_ to be updated at the moment. > True, but as we move from boot1.efi to loader.efi, the need will grow... Even if we keep boot1.efi, loader.efi will be needed for interesting secure systems, so we can't cop-out like we have in the past. 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So it seems it rarely _needs_ to be updated at the moment. > > > > The interpreter developer in me wants this to be more frequent than it > probably is. =-) Right now, we have to plan on optionally supporting > any new features that we end up adding to the interpreter itself (e.g. > lua C modules). I can think of one at the moment that will be joining > us in the coming months -- while a bad example because this particular > module will only be presented if the system supports it, it'd be nice > to not have to have optional shims for old loaders for years on end. > Yes. This is why we need to bite the bullet, update the docs, etc and come up with a firm plan for this like we did for gcc removal. It's lingered about 3 years too long at this point (much of it my fault for not wanting to push the issue and upset the apple cart, but that complacency has done the project no favors). Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 03:32:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B42D2708A1 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x441.google.com (mail-pf1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::441]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rJ192ygXz4HF3 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x441.google.com with SMTP id c21so7279622pfo.5 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:32:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2l7W7i/vTBhL79lr858DvljgbjpM/ZzOAEQRpVN0xcQ=; b=sRrT3Vy2MMH//drdkyJKXSjQNbDmMdDyGYHwMvV5mGnx3qLj01b4xK1FngP8+mTxPW xfRxRhTaVXrAMhcBT50PDRyLhg9fNiIhnh5vncFOrwizxlM867yH1ds/Lq5oMB5RI2kv MmG8NgyHlab9tcrwtmS7E8yx1IK9bfPwfmMo8WjPAQOLn1TXJW629cFSc93ZVo0x2dHL Btt25QPH2/wx7boIuFqDMpEXrwvgamSQZuwiJRus1S1xPrFWoafV2Atgm2eU6WTPbKIR JlL6PbW5vAVTtXOk5TSJkfSWTTOLM9jQvLsDpAMyQwZyoIqFah6KaelV/RF5g7dwNwbn Q+Uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2l7W7i/vTBhL79lr858DvljgbjpM/ZzOAEQRpVN0xcQ=; b=ZsNTpbu+HHiR2kaimmyovl7akIX/DhJNkQqcAP0B1lrJmaMALNQxYY4vZuJ1zMCIU5 IBXfVpPThuPNsd20fG4yA9SgiBurpoKZxjd9wi0vydVFPpDatuCkCmazI7yLow+vw8PH Z5vgLMF4+3QdUx4oKzdcGZJN0DAJzGQO0EW59W6F4EyKWF7bwpF+U9jYEbVutHq1qPhU YOrViwOkEYRW79Y+maWVDhZgUg9rXwZOrmePCE1Dz8KwK/EIvmjNGdGJpIs9wnNr2S/J ieUrI49HojzuyStfPTxoNxy/pEMeziSetstRSxoxB9UnmLALl5wqs44TY88Lq9fq1G9X KljQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ0NraSTRiFRmLos68QomiExXgP3yVOIOkk7dTvaZPyJGNHMgz/b Fs7iEPMmmVLETPzIk75sxrstqI9jgiSeuxxRcmX8Kb4Y X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vuUcOMx8CUrE11pQeOf3nY/W72n9CD4+Zz9w9sMt/9HRD4LKsZ7y7ZXJ0LLuf71GyEDGkHsJSQxtLobIxUeFn4= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:a8e2:: with SMTP id h34mr9607399qvc.22.1585538678448; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:24:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> <16728.1585537356@kaos.jnpr.net> <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:24:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? 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Gerraty wrote: > > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> It's basically this that has been the problem: we need a way to manage > >> updates of the EFI loader in this situation, which we don't currently > >> have. The ESP needs to be mounted at a standard point, > >> installworld/freebsd-update/etc. need to know to replace files there, we > >> need to fall back cleanly on older systems, etc. The original (failed -- > > Actually if you are doing secure boot, the *last* thing you want is to > > update /efi/boot with an unsigned update. > > > > So I would think it should be done as a unique operation - do you don't > > do it accidentally. > > > > At least that's how I'm handling it for embedded devices. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > The problem then is that we have treated loader as a > continuously-updatable part of the OS, like the kernel, and the update > system and development process assumes they get updated in sync. > It's thorny issues like this which have led me to believe we need to have an install-loader target and separate it out just like we separate out world from kernel because the loader has become more like a kernel and it may need to be updated asynchronously to all other parts of the system. However, this also breaks all the instructions in the world, and often times will make things worse, not better. Things like etcupdate shouldn't be used to paper over this problem, though: it needs to be solved systematically. Ideally, we'd impose a one true location for the ESP, have a make variable to override that one true location, and have a WITHOUT_LOADER_INSTALL or somesuch flag if we don't go the install-loader router. This would make it safe to do automatically because the unsafe installations can just turn it off. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 05:04:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D5B27289A for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 05:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua) Received: from mail.flex-it.com.ua (mail.flex-it.com.ua [193.239.74.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rL353Mwdz3N5M for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 05:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua) Received: from [46.98.105.169] (helo=thinkpad.flex-it.com.ua) by mail.flex-it.com.ua with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jImHX-0001Z9-GG for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:44:15 +0300 Subject: Re: kernel build failed To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <672d55ce-0949-2397-0a3c-3a86020381a4@shurik.kiev.ua> <20200328123542.GR1511@albert.catwhisker.org> <4ee54436-0c15-41c3-3581-053da0a08181@shurik.kiev.ua> <9E22D99A-63CB-4CCB-B3C1-3838F1769BED@FreeBSD.org> <1829bb5e-22aa-ca15-de07-2a930dacbe3c@shurik.kiev.ua> From: Alexandr Krivulya Message-ID: <04974bf9-c775-f314-e4b5-45644e1351a1@shurik.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:44:10 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rL353Mwdz3N5M X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua designates 193.239.74.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[shurik.kiev.ua]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.45)[ip: (-9.10), ipnet: 193.239.72.0/22(-4.55), asn: 35297(-3.64), country: UA(0.07)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[169.105.98.46.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35297, ipnet:193.239.72.0/22, country:UA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 05:04:15 -0000 29.03.20 14:55, Dimitry Andric =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On 29 Mar 2020, at 13:02, Alexandr Krivulya wr= ote: >> 28.03.20 18:32, Dimitry Andric =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 13:48, Alexandr Krivulya = wrote: > ... >>> This typically happens if you don't run "make buildworld", or at leas= t >>> "make kernel-toolchain" before running "make buildkernel", and your >>> userland is missing those headers, for some reason. (Usually people >>> seem to do a WITHOUT_CLANG installation or strip out 'unnecessary' >>> stuff manually...) >>> >> I have updated source tree to r359419 and now make builworld failed wi= th an error: >> >> --- Basic/Targets.o --- >> c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/clang/= libclang -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/clang/libllvm -= I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-pr= oject/clang/lib/Driver -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/include -I/u= sr/src/lib/clang/include -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/llvm/include -D_= _STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -DHAVE= _VCS_VERSION_INC -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=3D\"x86_64-unknown-freebsd1= 3.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=3D\"x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSRO= OT=3D\"/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp\" -DLLVM_TARGET_ENABLE_X86 -DLLVM= _NATIVE_ASMPARSER=3DLLVMInitializeX86AsmParser -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPRINTER=3D= LLVMInitializeX86AsmPrinter -DLLVM_NATIVE_DISASSEMBLER=3DLLVMInitializeX8= 6Disassembler -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGET=3DLLVMInitializeX86Target -DLLVM_NATIV= E_TARGETINFO=3DLLVMInitializeX86TargetInfo -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETMC=3DLLVMI= nitializeX86TargetMC -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -gline-tables-on= ly -MD -MF.depend.Basic_Targets.o -MTBasic/Targets.o -Wno-format-zero-len= gth -Qunused-arguments -include ../freebsd_cc_version.h -I/usr/obj/usr/sr= c/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -gline-tab= les-only -std=3Dc++14 -stdlib=3Dlibc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /usr/sr= c/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/Targets.cpp -o Basic/Targets.o >> --- Basic/SourceManager.o --- >> /usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Basic/SourceManager.cpp:1228:1= 0: fatal error: 'emmintrin.h' file not found >> #include >> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If this happens during the cross-tools stage (stage 3), then your base > system's toolchain is missing some components. Can you check whether > the directory /usr/lib/clang/x.y.z exists, where x.y.z is the version > printed by "cc -v" ? > > If that directory does not exist, the easiest fix is probably to use > a toolchain port to bootstrap, or alternatively restore the toolchain > directories from a 13-CURRENT snapshot. > > You are absolutely right. The directory /usr/lib/clang was empty. Thank you! 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Even if we keep boot1.efi, loader.efi will be needed for > interesting secure systems, so we can't cop-out like we have in the > past. Sigh, that would force me to have to add verification to boot1.efi ;-) Personally I'm quite happy with installing loader.efi as bootx64.efi to avoid that. I treat it as a separately published component, independent of the loaders used on non-uefi platforms. So the fact that I have to build it from head, matters little. The loader should be largely independent of the rest of the system, and was until lua came along. Eg we can successfully verify and load a stable/6 based system using loader built from stable/11. For at least some platforms we cannot use lua, as it takes up headroom we need for verifying modules. 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Gerraty wrote: > Warner Losh wrote: > > True, but as we move from boot1.efi to loader.efi, the need will > > grow... Even if we keep boot1.efi, loader.efi will be needed for > > interesting secure systems, so we can't cop-out like we have in the > > past. > > Sigh, that would force me to have to add verification to boot1.efi ;-) > > Personally I'm quite happy with installing loader.efi as bootx64.efi > to avoid that. > Yea. That's why we really want to move in this direction.... > I treat it as a separately published component, independent of the > loaders used on non-uefi platforms. So the fact that I have to build it > from head, matters little. > > The loader should be largely independent of the rest of the system, and > was until lua came along. Eg we can successfully verify and load a > stable/6 based system using loader built from stable/11. > For at least some platforms we cannot use lua, as it takes up headroom > we need for verifying modules. > I think the Forth loader can still load old kernel binaries, at least back to the ELF cut-over, though the Forth words have changed a bit over time, so there may be some issues there... 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To: Nathan Whitehorn Cc: FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> <16728.1585537356@kaos.jnpr.net> <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> From: Andriy Gapon Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=avg@FreeBSD.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFm4LIgBEADNB/3lT7f15UKeQ52xCFQx/GqHkSxEdVyLFZTmY3KyNPQGBtyvVyBfprJ7 mAeXZWfhat6cKNRAGZcL5EmewdQuUfQfBdYmKjbw3a9GFDsDNuhDA2QwFt8BmkiVMRYyvI7l N0eVzszWCUgdc3qqM6qqcgBaqsVmJluwpvwp4ZBXmch5BgDDDb1MPO8AZ2QZfIQmplkj8Y6Z AiNMknkmgaekIINSJX8IzRzKD5WwMsin70psE8dpL/iBsA2cpJGzWMObVTtCxeDKlBCNqM1i gTXta1ukdUT7JgLEFZk9ceYQQMJJtUwzWu1UHfZn0Fs29HTqawfWPSZVbulbrnu5q55R4PlQ /xURkWQUTyDpqUvb4JK371zhepXiXDwrrpnyyZABm3SFLkk2bHlheeKU6Yql4pcmSVym1AS4 dV8y0oHAfdlSCF6tpOPf2+K9nW1CFA8b/tw4oJBTtfZ1kxXOMdyZU5fiG7xb1qDgpQKgHUX8 7Rd2T1UVLVeuhYlXNw2F+a2ucY+cMoqz3LtpksUiBppJhw099gEXehcN2JbUZ2TueJdt1FdS ztnZmsHUXLxrRBtGwqnFL7GSd6snpGIKuuL305iaOGODbb9c7ne1JqBbkw1wh8ci6vvwGlzx rexzimRaBzJxlkjNfMx8WpCvYebGMydNoeEtkWldtjTNVsUAtQARAQABtB5BbmRyaXkgR2Fw b24gPGF2Z0BGcmVlQlNELm9yZz6JAlQEEwEIAD4WIQS+LEO7ngQnXA4Bjr538m7TUc1yjwUC WbgsiAIbIwUJBaOagAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRB38m7TUc1yj+JAEACV l9AK/nOWAt/9cufV2fRj0hdOqB1aCshtSrwHk/exXsDa4/FkmegxXQGY+3GWX3deIyesbVRL rYdtdK0dqJyT1SBqXK1h3/at9rxr9GQA6KWOxTjUFURsU7ok/6SIlm8uLRPNKO+yq0GDjgaO LzN+xykuBA0FlhQAXJnpZLcVfPJdWv7sSHGedL5ln8P8rxR+XnmsA5TUaaPcbhTB+mG+iKFj GghASDSfGqLWFPBlX/fpXikBDZ1gvOr8nyMY9nXhgfXpq3B6QCRYKPy58ChrZ5weeJZ29b7/ QdEO8NFNWHjSD9meiLdWQaqo9Y7uUxN3wySc/YUZxtS0bhAd8zJdNPsJYG8sXgKjeBQMVGuT eCAJFEYJqbwWvIXMfVWop4+O4xB+z2YE3jAbG/9tB/GSnQdVSj3G8MS80iLS58frnt+RSEw/ psahrfh0dh6SFHttE049xYiC+cM8J27Aaf0i9RflyITq57NuJm+AHJoU9SQUkIF0nc6lfA+o JRiyRlHZHKoRQkIg4aiKaZSWjQYRl5Txl0IZUP1dSWMX4s3XTMurC/pnja45dge/4ESOtJ9R 8XuIWg45Oq6MeIWdjKddGhRj3OohsltKgkEU3eLKYtB6qRTQypHHUawCXz88uYt5e3w4V16H lCpSTZV/EVHnNe45FVBlvK7k7HFfDDkryLkCDQRZuCyIARAAlq0slcsVboY/+IUJdcbEiJRW be9HKVz4SUchq0z9MZPX/0dcnvz/gkyYA+OuM78dNS7Mbby5dTvOqfpLJfCuhaNYOhlE0wY+ 1T6Tf1f4c/uA3U/YiadukQ3+6TJuYGAdRZD5EqYFIkreARTVWg87N9g0fT9BEqLw9lJtEGDY EWUE7L++B8o4uu3LQFEYxcrb4K/WKmgtmFcm77s0IKDrfcX4doV92QTIpLiRxcOmCC/OCYuO jB1oaaqXQzZrCutXRK0L5XN1Y1PYjIrEzHMIXmCDlLYnpFkK+itlXwlE2ZQxkfMruCWdQXye syl2fynAe8hvp7Mms9qU2r2K9EcJiR5N1t1C2/kTKNUhcRv7Yd/vwusK7BqJbhlng5ZgRx0m WxdntU/JLEntz3QBsBsWM9Y9wf2V4tLv6/DuDBta781RsCB/UrU2zNuOEkSixlUiHxw1dccI 6CVlaWkkJBxmHX22GdDFrcjvwMNIbbyfQLuBq6IOh8nvu9vuItup7qemDG3Ms6TVwA7BD3j+ 3fGprtyW8Fd/RR2bW2+LWkMrqHffAr6Y6V3h5kd2G9Q8ZWpEJk+LG6Mk3fhZhmCnHhDu6CwN MeUvxXDVO+fqc3JjFm5OxhmfVeJKrbCEUJyM8ESWLoNHLqjywdZga4Q7P12g8DUQ1mRxYg/L HgZY3zfKOqcAEQEAAYkCPAQYAQgAJhYhBL4sQ7ueBCdcDgGOvnfybtNRzXKPBQJZuCyIAhsM BQkFo5qAAAoJEHfybtNRzXKPBVwQAKfFy9P7N3OsLDMB56A4Kf+ZT+d5cIx0Yiaf4n6w7m3i ImHHHk9FIetI4Xe54a2IXh4Bq5UkAGY0667eIs+Z1Ea6I2i27Sdo7DxGwq09Qnm/Y65ADvXs 3aBvokCcm7FsM1wky395m8xUos1681oV5oxgqeRI8/76qy0hD9WR65UW+HQgZRIcIjSel9vR XDaD2HLGPTTGr7u4v00UeTMs6qvPsa2PJagogrKY8RXdFtXvweQFz78NbXhluwix2Tb9ETPk LIpDrtzV73CaE2aqBG/KrboXT2C67BgFtnk7T7Y7iKq4/XvEdDWscz2wws91BOXuMMd4c/c4 OmGW9m3RBLufFrOag1q5yUS9QbFfyqL6dftJP3Zq/xe+mr7sbWbhPVCQFrH3r26mpmy841ym dwQnNcsbIGiBASBSKksOvIDYKa2Wy8htPmWFTEOPRpFXdGQ27awcjjnB42nngyCK5ukZDHi6 w0qK5DNQQCkiweevCIC6wc3p67jl1EMFY5+z+zdTPb3h7LeVnGqW0qBQl99vVFgzLxchKcl0 R/paSFgwqXCZhAKMuUHncJuynDOP7z5LirUeFI8qsBAJi1rXpQoLJTVcW72swZ42IdPiboqx NbTMiNOiE36GqMcTPfKylCbF45JNX4nF9ElM0E+Y8gi4cizJYBRr2FBJgay0b9Cp Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:59:43 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 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NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.31)[ip: (-0.30), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-0.76), asn: 15169(-0.46), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[avg@FreeBSD.org,agapon@gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[96.151.72.93.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[avg@FreeBSD.org,agapon@gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:00:21 -0000 On 30/03/2020 06:11, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > The problem then is that we have treated loader as a > continuously-updatable part of the OS, like the kernel, and the update > system and development process assumes they get updated in sync. I don't think that we ever did that, consciously. Installing loader in installworld is / was a brain damage. Anyway, my main point is that whenever we made significant changes to loader->kernel "interface" we always tried to maintain backward compatibility. And one of the reasons was that installworld != installkernel. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 07:47:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59364279E1E for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kib@freebsd.org) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rPh14kSrz3R9v; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kib@freebsd.org) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 02U7GDFf021894 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:16:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kib@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 02U7GDFf021894 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 02U7GDYP021893; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:16:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kib@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kib@freebsd.org using -f Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:16:13 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Nathan Whitehorn Cc: "Simon J. Gerraty" , Kyle Evans , Rebecca Cran , Tomoaki AOKI , FreeBSD Current , bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Subject: Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work? Message-ID: <20200330071613.GF1992@kib.kiev.ua> References: <318FDBAF-448F-4C55-A9A8-69D71A73E43B@me.com> <344e85545cfc47c9835fc5918e5b1dc1@udns.ultimatedns.net> <20200329211137.012a8fd62b58525b027bcfb6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <40bacb99-d463-cbad-3ccf-b3ddd6856d10@bsdio.com> <675a41c7-46c1-f548-b285-e5ede55db76a@freebsd.org> <16728.1585537356@kaos.jnpr.net> <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rPh14kSrz3R9v X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.23 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.67)[-0.674,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.56)[-0.558,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:47:49 -0000 On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 08:11:16PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > > On 2020-03-29 20:02, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> It's basically this that has been the problem: we need a way to manage > >> updates of the EFI loader in this situation, which we don't currently > >> have. The ESP needs to be mounted at a standard point, > >> installworld/freebsd-update/etc. need to know to replace files there, we > >> need to fall back cleanly on older systems, etc. The original (failed -- > > Actually if you are doing secure boot, the *last* thing you want is to > > update /efi/boot with an unsigned update. > > > > So I would think it should be done as a unique operation - do you don't > > do it accidentally. > > > > At least that's how I'm handling it for embedded devices. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > The problem then is that we have treated loader as a > continuously-updatable part of the OS, like the kernel, and the update > system and development process assumes they get updated in sync. I do not see problems with boot1.efi. I use it in a way you described: I put it on ESP (in fact manually, but it does not matter) and only update loader.efi on /root. This works quite satisfactory for my updates 11->12-13 CURRENT and stable. I would highly prefer this model was not broken, whatever additional update options for loader are added. It is zero-maintaince for me. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 10:17:18 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91D727DDE3; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwhsu@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rT0X09nqz3Nwj; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwhsu@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1129) id 22E23B651; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:17:04 +0000 From: Li-Wen Hsu To: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD CI Weekly Report 2020-03-29 Message-ID: <20200330101704.GA81165@freefall.freebsd.org> Reply-To: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:17:18 -0000 (Please send the followup to freebsd-testing@ and note Reply-To is set.) FreeBSD CI Weekly Report 2020-03-29 =================================== Here is a summary of the FreeBSD Continuous Integration results for the period from 2020-03-23 to 2020-03-29. During this period, we have: * 1811 builds (93.5% (+2.8) passed, 6.5% () failed) of buildworld and buildkernel (GENERIC and LINT) were executed on aarch64, amd64, armv6, armv7, i386, mips, mips64, powerpc, powerpc64, powerpcspe, riscv64, sparc64 architectures for head, stable/12, stable/11 branches. * 293 test runs (54.3% (-41.1) passed, 43.7% (+40.4) unstable, 2.0% (+0.7) exception) were executed on amd64, i386, riscv64 architectures for head, stable/12, stable/11 branches. * 21 doc and www builds (95.2% (+16.4) passed, 4.8 (-16.4) failed) Test case status (on 2020-03-29 23:59): | Branch/Architecture | Total | Pass | Fail | Skipped | | ------------------- | ---------- | --------- | ------ | -------- | | head/amd64 | 7736 (+14) | 7625 (0) | 5 (+5) | 106 (+9) | | head/i386 | 7734 (+14) | 7617 (+3) | 5 (+5) | 112 (+6) | | 12-STABLE/amd64 | 7506 (0) | 7450 (-3) | 0 (0) | 56 (+3) | | 12-STABLE/i386 | 7504 (0) | 7443 (+3) | 0 (0) | 61 (-3) | | 11-STABLE/amd64 | 6880 (0) | 6830 (-3) | 0 (0) | 50 (+3) | | 11-STABLE/i386 | 6878 (0) | 6826 (0) | 0 (0) | 52 (0) | (The statistics from experimental jobs are omitted) If any of the issues found by CI are in your area of interest or expertise please investigate the PRs listed below. The latest web version of this report is available at https://hackmd.io/@FreeBSD-CI/report-20200329 and archive is available at https://hackmd.io/@FreeBSD-CI/ , any help is welcome. ## News * After [r359233](https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359233), all the supported architectures are using clang/lld as default toolchain, and [CI.FreeBSD.org follows](https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ci/commit/5e8704617365488891576e27d4325e0474bc90de). Now FreeBSD-head-mips64-build job is fine but please note that using mips64-gcc6 as external toolchain still fails. * Two powerpc64 jobs are added: * FreeBSD-head-powerpc64-images * FreeBSD-head-powerpc64-testvm The images are available at https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org ## Failing jobs * https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-head-mips64-build (now switched to clang/lld, gcc6 build will be moved to FreeBSD-head-mips64-gcc6_build) This error was encountered when this job was using devel/gcc6@mips64 port (mips64-gcc6 pacakge) This job was switched to use clang/lld on 2020-03-24. Gcc job will be added later. ``` ===> include/rpcsvc (includes) RPCGEN_CPP=/usr/local/bin/mips64-unknown-freebsd12.0-cpp6\ --sysroot=/usr/home/lwhsu/freebsd-obj-gcc6/usr/home/lwhsu/freebsd-src/mips.mips64/tmp\ -B/usr/local/mips64-unknown-freebsd12.0/bin/ rpcgen -C -h -DWANT_NFS3 /usr/home/lwhsu/freebsd-src/include/rpcsvc/mount.x -o mount.h /usr/home/lwhsu/freebsd-src/include/rpcsvc/mount.x:1:0: error: '-march=mips1' is not compatible with the selected ABI /*- *** [mount.h] Error code 1 make[4]: stopped in /usr/home/lwhsu/freebsd-src/include/rpcsvc 1 error ``` * https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-head-amd64-gcc6_build/ ``` --- all_subdir_usr.bin/clang/lldb --- /usr/local/bin/x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.1-ld: /tmp/obj/workspace/src/amd64.amd64/lib/clang/liblldb/liblldb.a(IOHandler.o): in function `curses::Window::Box(unsigned int, unsigned int)': /workspace/src/contrib/llvm-project/lldb/source/Core/IOHandler.cpp:926: undefined reference to `box' /usr/local/bin/x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.1-ld: /workspace/src/contrib/llvm-project/lldb/source/Core/IOHandler.cpp:926: undefined reference to `box' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status ``` ## Regressions * 3 tests start failing after llvm10 import * lib.libproc.proc_test.symbol_lookup * lib.msun.ctrig_test.test_inf_inputs https://bugs.freebsd.org/244732 * (DTrace) common.pid.t_dtrace_contrib.err_D_PROC_OFF_toobig_d https://bugs.freebsd.org/244823 * fusefs tests fail when mac_bsdextended.ko is loaded https://bugs.freebsd.org/244229 * `dtrace -c` causes program dumps core after somewhere between (r357694, r357701] https://bugs.freebsd.org/244053 * Lock-order reversals triggered by tests under sys.net.if_lagg_test.* on i386 https://bugs.freebsd.org/244163 Discovered by newly endabled sys.net.* tests. ([r357857](https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/357857)) * sys.net.if_lagg_test.lacp_linkstate_destroy_stress panics i386 kernel https://bugs.freebsd.org/244168 Discovered by newly endabled sys.net.* tests. ([r357857](https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/357857)) * (test case) sys.geom.class.multipath.misc.fail_on_error (on 12-STABLE) https://bugs.freebsd.org/244158 ## Failing and Flaky tests (from experimental jobs) * https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-head-amd64-dtrace_test/ * cddl.usr.sbin.dtrace.common.misc.t_dtrace_contrib.tst_dynopt_d * https://bugs.freebsd.org/237641 * cddl.usr.sbin.dtrace.common.pid.t_dtrace_contrib.err_D_PROC_OFF_toobig_d * https://bugs.freebsd.org/244823 * https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-head-amd64-test_zfs/ * There are ~13 failing and ~109 skipped cases, including flakey ones, see https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-head-amd64-test_zfs/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ for more details * Work for cleaning these failing cass are in progress * https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-head-amd64-test_ltp/ * Total 3670 tests (0), 2285 success (-5), 579 failures (+5), 806 skipped (0) ## Disabled Tests * sys.fs.tmpfs.mount_test.large https://bugs.freebsd.org/212862 * sys.fs.tmpfs.link_test.kqueue https://bugs.freebsd.org/213662 * sys.kqueue.libkqueue.kqueue_test.main https://bugs.freebsd.org/233586 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__PT_KILL_competing_stop https://bugs.freebsd.org/220841 * lib.libc.regex.exhaust_test.regcomp_too_big (i386 only) https://bugs.freebsd.org/237450 * sys.netinet.socket_afinet.socket_afinet_bind_zero https://bugs.freebsd.org/238781 * sys.netpfil.pf.names.names * sys.netpfil.pf.synproxy.synproxy https://bugs.freebsd.org/238870 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__follow_fork_child_detached_unrelated_debugger https://bugs.freebsd.org/239292 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__follow_fork_both_attached_unrelated_debugger https://bugs.freebsd.org/239397 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__parent_sees_exit_after_child_debugger https://bugs.freebsd.org/239399 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__follow_fork_parent_detached_unrelated_debugger https://bugs.freebsd.org/239425 * lib.libc.gen.getmntinfo_test.getmntinfo_test https://bugs.freebsd.org/240049 * sys.sys.qmath_test.qdivq_s64q https://bugs.freebsd.org/240219 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__getppid https://bugs.freebsd.org/240510 * lib.libc.sys.stat_test.stat_socket https://bugs.freebsd.org/240621 * lib.libarchive.functional_test.test_write_filter_zstd https://bugs.freebsd.org/240683 * lib.libcasper.services.cap_dns.dns_test.main https://bugs.freebsd.org/241435 * local.kyua.* (31 cases) & local.lutok.* (3 cases) on 11-i386 https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-stable-11-i386-test/2278/testReport/ * sys.geom.class.multipath.failloop.failloop https://bugs.freebsd.org/242689 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__procdesc_reparent_wait_child https://bugs.freebsd.org/243605 * skip sys.geom.class.multipath.failloop.failloop https://bugs.freebsd.org/244053 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__parent_wait_after_attach https://bugs.freebsd.org/244055 * sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__parent_exits_before_child https://bugs.freebsd.org/244056 * sys.geom.class.multipath.misc.fail_on_error (12-STABLE) https://bugs.freebsd.org/244158 * sys.net.if_lagg_test.witness (i386) https://bugs.freebsd.org/244163 * PipePdfork.WildcardWait in sys.capsicum.capsicum-test.main https://bugs.freebsd.org/244165 * sys.net.if_lagg_test.lacp_linkstate_destroy_stress (i386) https://bugs.freebsd.org/244168 * sys.netinet6.frag6.frag6_07.frag6_07 https://bugs.freebsd.org/244170 * sys.netinet.fibs_test.udp_dontroute6 https://bugs.freebsd.org/244172 * sys.netpfil.pf.nat.exhaust https://bugs.freebsd.org/244703 * sys.geom.class.gate.ggate_test.ggated https://bugs.freebsd.org/244737 ## Issues ### Cause build fails * https://bugs.freebsd.org/233735 Possible build race: genoffset.o /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h: error: machine/endian.h: No such file or directory * https://bugs.freebsd.org/233769 Possible build race: ld: error: unable to find library -lgcc_s ### Cause kernel panics * https://bugs.freebsd.org/238870 sys.netpfil.pf.names.names and sys.netpfil.pf.synproxy.synproxy cause panic Patch exists: * https://reviews.freebsd.org/D20868 * https://reviews.freebsd.org/D20869 ### Open * https://bugs.freebsd.org/237403 Tests in sys/opencrypto should be converted to Python3 * https://bugs.freebsd.org/237641 Flakey test case: common.misc.t_dtrace_contrib.tst_dynopt_d * https://bugs.freebsd.org/237656 "Freed UMA keg (rtentry) was not empty (18 items). Lost 1 pages of memory." seen when running sys/netipsec tests * https://bugs.freebsd.org/238781 sys.netinet.socket_afinet.socket_afinet_bind_zero does not work when mac_portacl(4) loaded * https://bugs.freebsd.org/239292 Flakey test case: sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__follow_fork_child_detached_unrelated_debugger * https://bugs.freebsd.org/239397 Flakey test case: sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__follow_fork_both_attached_unrelated_debugger * https://bugs.freebsd.org/239399 Flakey test case: sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__parent_sees_exit_after_child_debugger * https://bugs.freebsd.org/239425 Flakey test case: sys.kern.ptrace_test.ptrace__follow_fork_parent_detached_unrelated_debugger * https://bugs.freebsd.org/241662 Flakey test case: lib.libarchive.functional_test.test_fuzz_iso9660 ### Others * [Tickets related to testing@](https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9maauwg) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 15:32:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61FF2A6453 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48rc005f0tz3wtG for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 072DF2A6443; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9A52A6442 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rbzY40S0z3wlX; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id 78B433C0199; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:31:43 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: Ed Maste , current Subject: Re: src/usr.bin/kyua breaks on manbuild.sh: Permission denied Message-ID: <20200330153143.GC40889@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <202003280115.02S1FTvb011219@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3siQDZowHQqNOShm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202003280115.02S1FTvb011219@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rbzY40S0z3wlX X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net has no SPF policy when checking 199.48.129.229) smtp.mailfrom=brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[brooks@freebsd.org,brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:199.48.128.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[brooks@freebsd.org,brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net]; IP_SCORE(-3.63)[ip: (-9.53), ipnet: 199.48.128.0/22(-4.76), asn: 36236(-3.82), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:32:22 -0000 --3siQDZowHQqNOShm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 02:15:29AM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Ed Maste wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:48, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > > l /usr/src/contrib/kyua/doc/manbuild.sh > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 jhs staff 5187 Mar 25 12:34 /usr/src/contrib/= kyua/doc/manbuild.sh > >=20 > > Indeed, this is the problem. manbuild.sh is +x in svn and in the git > > mirror, so it appears something's broken in ctm. >=20 > Thanks Ed ! > I've logged in on the CTM generator server to investigate. > http://ctm.berklix.org FWIW, we don't generally rely on +x and invoke the interperter directly (to enable storing src on a noexec filesystm). I fixed the bug that caused direct invocation of the script in r359426. -- Brooks --3siQDZowHQqNOShm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeghDeAAoJEKzQXbSebgfAEboIAKLcKozDsDyFmx9yYx0keL3J NRrBRoFFeQTI3iMyf0PJbIj1+bly7ELBDVuGEw8n19lOzpM7X0QjPwSWkVLF01hG rp7xSLJC2WXt+/76+4W2hx1NTyGbGcvl+bhAftPI2CxQACSug/Ve9vuEWqnW/k8X 1I3+5fck5ChQWbYa+d3OeirjOFBIORQiSGlsarYv3DKHTpvooBPC9VsIiMBm21Zi Z3Ox8q3Wtx6/j9JqpW8/KN0UOiPAeNLUmCcdDrLZm7UscBn08Zhc500tQCIJt0nn 16+6VaTItehcWnZHF9zvtzjl5fKenpORY6Fu6CjSlykmbI+Z3p2reOoKwVHGxkE= =+sAW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3siQDZowHQqNOShm-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 15:53:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0DA2A6B1F for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48rcS332dWz44fX for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 915812A6B19; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC372A6B18 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f51.google.com (mail-io1-f51.google.com [209.85.166.51]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rcRt1vt9z44cG; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f51.google.com with SMTP id r25so6434022ioc.11; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:52:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SY13bMS5hJoVf+hfBhuY6Rws+jusbneimKrTtwniU0s=; b=BvHUJKWPaJmQVwIdaoAS1sVJjAW7yj0QLzJ+2tOBtz225qqKx0HEebtrINqpfSZbAE l4Sez8oNi+k1dtjd16zZO7Bd4a46UOZrSv5rtc1BhXHmNggZ/y4wvKUoz6lWLWC3lzL4 bZr3F2geL4s53oyg+ekzQTnjUeKQgB6XnTO9TkryyuxurA7Qroq6DR3J8Fuiuai5JKBL iGoaekj3bEUBH/u5kmNMTslQQSJGnmeH2MKQEAFWN7OmggqlJQQN+Tf2gtyk0Ih7TlZ+ sbsoQqJIh97TpW3ABXLzDQC1SgOuOftC6g+IwWXXNSq8e9y3O/h5W02+tZPKqCUBEUYI ubhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3+Aqd/dbtBSwUyvvct1W7A5GAQsOBwwmunpaWN/75H3RWGY9Tv s9+ovnC3GrSrU/YhyY+EG2NhCxnOSRSO554H5i4sXg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvFDpU76K525pmZpr09E3kF8QhAytjIR8LrLDHSgQR5b24n1QaPd6y1MjejeYUG/y1CNqsrWHFrmsIq0eTvn6c= X-Received: by 2002:a02:3808:: with SMTP id b8mr11780541jaa.136.1585583566052; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:52:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202003280115.02S1FTvb011219@fire.js.berklix.net> <20200330153143.GC40889@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20200330153143.GC40889@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> From: Ed Maste Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: src/usr.bin/kyua breaks on manbuild.sh: Permission denied To: Brooks Davis Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rcRt1vt9z44cG X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:53:09 -0000 On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:33, Brooks Davis wrote: > > FWIW, we don't generally rely on +x and invoke the interperter directly > (to enable storing src on a noexec filesystm). I fixed the bug that > caused direct invocation of the script in r359426. Good point, we should probably add a CI run to build from a noexec tree, or maybe switch existing run(s) to do so. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 30 16:28:50 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367452A7972 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48rdF34HLWz4JwQ for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EB58D2A7968; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB15B2A7967 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from slim.berklix.org (slim.berklix.org [94.185.90.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "slim.berklix.org", Issuer "slim.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rdDn1W86z4Jrp; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p2E52C7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.82.199.218]) (authenticated bits=128) by slim.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 02UGS8MC019274 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:28:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 02UGS74e066332; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:28:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 02UGRt5S085163; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:28:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <202003301628.02UGRt5S085163@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Brooks Davis cc: Ed Maste , current Subject: Re: src/usr.bin/kyua breaks on manbuild.sh: Permission denied From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com/jhs http://stolenvotes.uk User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:31:43 -0000." <20200330153143.GC40889@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:27:55 +0200 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rdDn1W86z4Jrp X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jhs@berklix.com has no SPF policy when checking 94.185.90.68) smtp.mailfrom=jhs@berklix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.72)[-0.721,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.85)[-0.855,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[berklix.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (0.02), ipnet: 94.185.88.0/22(0.01), asn: 33824(-0.00), country: DE(-0.02)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[68.90.185.94.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33824, ipnet:94.185.88.0/22, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:28:50 -0000 Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 02:15:29AM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Ed Maste wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:48, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > > > > l /usr/src/contrib/kyua/doc/manbuild.sh > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 jhs staff 5187 Mar 25 12:34 /usr/src/contrib/= > kyua/doc/manbuild.sh > > >=20 > > > Indeed, this is the problem. manbuild.sh is +x in svn and in the git > > > mirror, so it appears something's broken in ctm. > >=20 > > Thanks Ed ! > > I've logged in on the CTM generator server to investigate. > > http://ctm.berklix.org > > FWIW, we don't generally rely on +x and invoke the interperter directly > (to enable storing src on a noexec filesystm). I fixed the bug that > caused direct invocation of the script in r359426. Thanks Brooks. On the CTM delta generator server, svn export did set the x bit OK. The ctm delta generator needs fixing, Stephen or I will look at that bit. 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I would like to edit its /boot/loader.conf (revert to zfs_load="YES") but re: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/4553 I can not think of a way to mount the dataset. Please, how can I proceed? ---- Re: ZFS: destroying snapshots without compromising boot environments On 28/03/2020 15:36, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 28/03/2020 15:19, Allan Jude wrote: > > > You can try to destroy the snapshot, if it is the basis of a clone, > then > > you will get an error, that you'd need to destroy the BE first, so you > > might decide to keep that snapshot. As long as you don't use the -R > flag > > to zfs destroy dataset@snapshot, it will not destroy the clones. > > > > You can also use 'zfs promote' to make the clone into the parent, > making > > the original parent into the clone. This allows you to destroy that > > original and the snapshot while keeping the clone. > > Perfect, thank you. I was nervous about destruction without warning. > > Below, are the differences (in measurement) between beadm and bectl to > be expected? > > ---- > > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list > BE       Active Mountpoint  Space Created > Waterfox -      -           15.9G 2020-03-10 18:24 > r357746f -      -            1.3G 2020-03-20 06:19 > r359249b NR     /           74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list -aDs > BE/Dataset/Snapshot                            Active Mountpoint Space > Created > > Waterfox >   copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                     -      - 137.0M > 2020-03-10 18:24 >     r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17               -      - 59.2G > 2020-03-17 21:57 >   copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 -      - 67.0M > 2020-03-20 06:19 > > r357746f >   copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f                     -      - 1.2G > 2020-03-20 06:19 >     Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45               -      - 59.2G > 2020-03-20 06:19 > > r359249b >   copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 -      - 15.7G > 2020-03-17 21:57 >   copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b                     NR     / 59.0G > 2020-03-28 01:19 > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list > BE       Active Mountpoint Space Created > Waterfox -      -          204M  2020-03-10 18:24 > r357746f -      -          1.21G 2020-03-20 06:19 > r359249b NR     /          74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list -aDs > BE/Dataset/Snapshot                              Active Mountpoint > Space Created > > Waterfox >   copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                       -      - 204M > 2020-03-10 18:24 >   Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45                   -      - 67.0M > 2020-03-20 06:19 > > r357746f >   copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f                       -      - 1.21G > 2020-03-20 06:19 > > r359249b >   copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b                       NR     / 74.7G > 2020-03-28 01:19 >   r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17                   -      - 15.7G > 2020-03-17 21:57 > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list -t snapshot > NAME                                                     USED AVAIL  > REFER  MOUNTPOINT > copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45            67.0M - 59.2G  - > copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17            15.7G - 59.2G  - > copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root@jbrowsers     8K - 1.24G  - > copperbowl/poudriere/jails/head@clean                    328K - 1.89G  - > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs destroy > copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 > cannot destroy 'copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17': > snapshot has dependent clones > use '-R' to destroy the following datasets: > copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f > copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 > copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # date ; 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Make sure pulseaudio actually recognizes the > desired microphone e.g., debug via "pactl list" and "parec". > > I don't have a mic but, looking at the code, only pulse-rust or pulse > backends on Linux/FreeBSD support selecting non-default audio device. > It maybe possible to use other backends but if audio device used for > output and input are different that'd require routing defaults which can > be done via config file (e.g., ~/.asoundrc) or externally via virtual_oss. > >> pcm3: (play/rec) default >> pcm4: (rec) > Are these distinct physical devices? Yes. > >> hw.snd.default_unit: 3 > Have you tried using 4? I did, but decided that the device previously at 4 (Alctron USB700 ) probably has a hardware fault. Worth noting: if I attempt to suspend the system whilst the device at 3 (SteelSeries Siberia 350 headphones with integral microphone ) is physically connected, suspend sometimes fails; it becomes necessary to force off the computer. If I start the system with the headphones connected, then the microphone at 3 is usable at e.g. and (see ) but not in Microsoft Teams. If I disconnect the headphones (to minimise the risk of failure to suspend), then reconnect, the system seems unable to reuse the headphones (see ); a restart is required. In Microsoft Teams, neither 2 nor 3 is detected; there's only 1 (see ) and after allowing use of /dev/dsp1 it 'disappears', leaving only the camera in use (head of ). 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Whilst booted from a different environment, I mounted the dataset whilst in single user mode, edited /boot/loader.conf … a little tricky, because after the mount I could no longer use zfs commands (ZFS library initialisation failed, words to that effect). Then beadm to activate the BE, and shutdown -r now Success :-) With zfs_load="YES" (in lieu of openzfs_load="YES") the BE is usable. > ---- > > Re: ZFS: destroying snapshots without compromising boot environments > > On 28/03/2020 15:36, Graham Perrin wrote: >> On 28/03/2020 15:19, Allan Jude wrote: >> >> > You can try to destroy the snapshot, if it is the basis of a clone, >> then >> > you will get an error, that you'd need to destroy the BE first, so you >> > might decide to keep that snapshot. As long as you don't use the -R >> flag >> > to zfs destroy dataset@snapshot, it will not destroy the clones. >> > >> > You can also use 'zfs promote' to make the clone into the parent, >> making >> > the original parent into the clone. This allows you to destroy that >> > original and the snapshot while keeping the clone. >> >> Perfect, thank you. I was nervous about destruction without warning. >> >> Below, are the differences (in measurement) between beadm and bectl >> to be expected? >> >> ---- >> >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list >> BE       Active Mountpoint  Space Created >> Waterfox -      -           15.9G 2020-03-10 18:24 >> r357746f -      -            1.3G 2020-03-20 06:19 >> r359249b NR     /           74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list -aDs >> BE/Dataset/Snapshot                            Active Mountpoint >> Space Created >> >> Waterfox >>   copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                     -      - 137.0M >> 2020-03-10 18:24 >>     r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17               -      - 59.2G >> 2020-03-17 21:57 >>   copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 -      - 67.0M >> 2020-03-20 06:19 >> >> r357746f >>   copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f                     -      - 1.2G >> 2020-03-20 06:19 >>     Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45               -      - 59.2G >> 2020-03-20 06:19 >> >> r359249b >>   copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 -      - 15.7G >> 2020-03-17 21:57 >>   copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b                     NR     / 59.0G >> 2020-03-28 01:19 >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list >> BE       Active Mountpoint Space Created >> Waterfox -      -          204M  2020-03-10 18:24 >> r357746f -      -          1.21G 2020-03-20 06:19 >> r359249b NR     /          74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list -aDs >> BE/Dataset/Snapshot                              Active Mountpoint >> Space Created >> >> Waterfox >>   copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                       -      - 204M >> 2020-03-10 18:24 >>   Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45                   -      - 67.0M >> 2020-03-20 06:19 >> >> r357746f >>   copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f                       -      - 1.21G >> 2020-03-20 06:19 >> >> r359249b >>   copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b                       NR     / 74.7G >> 2020-03-28 01:19 >>   r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17                   -      - 15.7G >> 2020-03-17 21:57 >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list -t snapshot >> NAME                                                     USED AVAIL  >> REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45            67.0M - 59.2G  - >> copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17            15.7G - 59.2G  - >> copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root@jbrowsers     8K - 1.24G  - >> copperbowl/poudriere/jails/head@clean                    328K - 1.89G  - >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs destroy >> copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 >> cannot destroy 'copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17': >> snapshot has dependent clones >> use '-R' to destroy the following datasets: >> copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f >> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 >> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # date ; 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protected-headers="v1" From: Allan Jude To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <684735bc-49f9-4161-3f44-186d9da59bb5@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ZFS: OpenZFS: lost the ability to boot a BE References: <14266e74-e2cc-ec14-187a-4bc9c9e6c32a@gmail.com> <1c2b71fa-b25c-21d4-2115-ddb3d7b129b2@freebsd.org> <01524fd0-ae7b-028b-6259-5da485b48886@gmail.com> <0f19e79c-a809-c04b-4f36-8752f756f954@gmail.com> <250de133-ad5e-6145-66cb-8b0383a4b8f0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <250de133-ad5e-6145-66cb-8b0383a4b8f0@gmail.com> --lpwSQpropBlMSdi6iPtPqHYQ8CRL4qhJb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To temporarily mount a ZFS filesystem: mount -t zfs poolname/data/set /path/here On 2020-03-30 19:53, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 30/03/2020 19:47, Graham Perrin wrote: >> I lost the ability to boot the environment named 'r357746', I suspect >> this occurred after I set it to use OpenZFS in lieu of ZFS. >> >> I would like to edit its /boot/loader.conf (revert to zfs_load=3D"YES"= ) >> but re: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/4553 I can not think of >> a way to mount the dataset. >> >> Please, how can I proceed? >=20 > Whilst booted from a different environment, I mounted the dataset whils= t > in single user mode, edited /boot/loader.conf =E2=80=A6 a little tricky= , because > after the mount I could no longer use zfs commands (ZFS library > initialisation failed, words to that effect). Then beadm to activate th= e > BE, and shutdown -r now >=20 > Success :-) >=20 > With zfs_load=3D"YES" (in lieu of openzfs_load=3D"YES") the BE is usabl= e. >=20 >> ---- >> >> Re: ZFS: destroying snapshots without compromising boot environments >> >> On 28/03/2020 15:36, Graham Perrin wrote: >>> On 28/03/2020 15:19, Allan Jude wrote: >>> >>> > You can try to destroy the snapshot, if it is the basis of a clone,= >>> then >>> > you will get an error, that you'd need to destroy the BE first, so = you >>> > might decide to keep that snapshot. As long as you don't use the -R= >>> flag >>> > to zfs destroy dataset@snapshot, it will not destroy the clones. >>> > >>> > You can also use 'zfs promote' to make the clone into the parent, >>> making >>> > the original parent into the clone. This allows you to destroy that= >>> > original and the snapshot while keeping the clone. >>> >>> Perfect, thank you. I was nervous about destruction without warning. >>> >>> Below, are the differences (in measurement) between beadm and bectl >>> to be expected? >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list >>> BE=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Active Mountpoint=C2=A0 Space = Created >>> Waterfox -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 15.9G 2020-03-10 18:24 >>> r357746f -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1.3G 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> r359249b NR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list -aDs >>> BE/Dataset/Snapshot=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Active Mountpoint >>> Space Created >>> >>> Waterfox >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 137.0M >>> 2020-03-10 18:24 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 59.2G >>> 2020-03-17 21:57 >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 67.0M >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> >>> r357746f >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 1.2G >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 59.2G >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> >>> r359249b >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 15.7G >>> 2020-03-17 21:57 >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 NR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 / 59.0G >>> 2020-03-28 01:19 >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list >>> BE=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Active Mountpoint Space Create= d >>> Waterfox -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 204M=C2=A0 2020-03-10 18:24 >>> r357746f -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1.21G 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> r359249b NR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list -aDs >>> BE/Dataset/Snapshot=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Active Mountpoint >>> Space Created >>> >>> Waterfox >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 204M >>> 2020-03-10 18:24 >>> =C2=A0 Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 67.0M >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> >>> r357746f >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 1.21G >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 >>> >>> r359249b >>> =C2=A0 copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 NR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 / 74.7G >>> 2020-03-28 01:19 >>> =C2=A0 r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 15.7G >>> 2020-03-17 21:57 >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list -t snapshot >>> NAME=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 USED AVAIL=C2=A0 >>> REFER=C2=A0 MOUNTPOINT >>> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 67.0M - 59.2G=C2=A0 - >>> copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 15.7G - 59.2G=C2=A0 - >>> copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root@jbrowsers=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 8K - 1.24G=C2=A0 - >>> copperbowl/poudriere/jails/head@clean=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 328K - 1.89G=C2=A0 - >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs destroy >>> copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 >>> cannot destroy 'copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17': >>> snapshot has dependent clones >>> use '-R' to destroy the following datasets: >>> copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f >>> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 >>> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # date ; uname -v >>> Sat Mar 28 15:30:57 GMT 2020 >>> FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #1 r359249: Tue Mar 24 00:12:27 GMT 2020 >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODE= BUG >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # >>> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Allan Jude --lpwSQpropBlMSdi6iPtPqHYQ8CRL4qhJb-- --h04QFOvbtSMu41cJPNtmbIj2KhJRgLFth Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJegog7AAoJEBmVNT4SmAt+YOUP/A7LOAIyr0wTCXz1cQRobVmy 4igEfg5J5JZMobhW7rrf7NBH3bKAfQ4zgoJgGc03d4JzpsCxh2aPuyUib9FXImzr 2Lf6g7ccFHmF1DgnLaVJIImaIoBWfB+R5W5TjoZWrsL5ogudn58POwiOAOfDkLXb fgUlOPkVs8hOCquLvsjRY3fAgEjbH5QfrYBD1tcO84OAiFdwvSRstc9Je5bhOfeq jrwcDDt/69yaUePNABp4G1JVv5HCs41U5y1IzrJ4nJJRrMrHQW0vVVPqZRhIOvDS kvSuaepiX9+aUdI5FRbp87D4/aty2wn1T9d8gf6LMlxUxOSwuMEcGvXcm1fP+gds 3V0J/ZOi6fyRhEssxTORhVFQ8YVrWv5RJc6UicBeCqMXF453GwE+ZRle8FZkErN9 Wj20SQrBSbrCdCY5T5kPVcTEtoqMNaEfnVNprHGnhbkkLhl/JcCBc6edzjsbgxwj DX6CnH3vbJBJvAF6vsAwEPTEaJg647vW5ciNDbyXsDVjBYvSIRTGh25SKOGqo4WI upVomIQYFK3EJBLYMZcoMiZjrYrw4h4Pmu1rk/ZIyT6DGfXGpWI6PCBaQDQNjz+3 Tpgo/f/hQO17rWlC5uc6vYDhFaaM7wnoXznNdA5DJApl94yGwh6G81eHeXnXldUc rHcmCmyXwbbzbXL+MQhU =bb4f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h04QFOvbtSMu41cJPNtmbIj2KhJRgLFth-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Mar 31 00:08:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CD926BD92; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x343.google.com (mail-wm1-x343.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::343]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48rqRN5wsrz44Wy; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x343.google.com with SMTP id c187so679682wme.1; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 17:08:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=gmP3/r47iCkYaqNt0mG7784eqgXZ9AANLOb+D0kM5tI=; b=JQkYXHYOnunfe7tYLD8W+R602ITClZc2HKw1unFY7RBUy1cCMpH8DA4tcX6715C4wS LWHozVRqsobY3eb+ioZrwbdW8CerQdCRus5AaIBcisQNJpPbHTyF92aky0zOh5Ulkjwd D3H4xdG5bgq+QBRQd7xpDOJhXqwgLT/IiUMmXdERndac3okyHy1HfmzjYxA3elX/TLRG FkR2ira+v9FLVYBrIzJ8a401S4HJotl6pyqS/A3aJijVx+SZxu9yLqIUihbBm9A3KVa4 vn4wXT1ANYYjHfWpmSCw/LiFiJYqwWcsfQLvuT5YqLP9lG03zxd65qBEuLFVGzC8AUOM CWWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=gmP3/r47iCkYaqNt0mG7784eqgXZ9AANLOb+D0kM5tI=; b=HOvxlvsoyL08bh5N0Aqm72NWb+ipQORpr0jobySJ9TvFEp/dlrQ+8gnJM95mOM+jp1 zSg+XklKnnSsI891WU/1AlBOkl3mSalLb6RUc8ui1ifVvDxokdA6lokDWGcaKCbq9MLp FlTCsZzT9kCyfQmocvjF65uPAbgpcoZMphBkX1auAcS2TYIXgkesZJIJSjNbNcA5P84K gViXTHe00ssqfS+iqcPtKO+I+xkSkTN666ndNgiRfXfS3+pL7HS2hA/LjEkRZr6gl0yl Gt4MqIq5vAN+HcssIJBiM0iAYw4OBqGlRVTX4gmoAGn+meYbtGmVVgtQsAlJy2hw4GtO zpAA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2QyR8P1SFTH30M24FV2EOKlDkx+tPZp4RJmzTHrmXBa/6amtet KZ7TfMVFTy3ghhiKuFXspmPXh6Mg8PJf3w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vu3CEthXeW8xiIgnylZDs8a5obj2PpClwdVR7dcdt8f8j94zKvBFtpks9sSp6+UV06QKRlhmA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4486:: with SMTP id r128mr634611wma.32.1585613286463; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 17:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (79-66-147-78.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. [79.66.147.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f12sm20483302wrm.94.2020.03.30.17.08.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Mar 2020 17:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: USB microphones with FreeBSD-CURRENT: bug 194727, r358629 To: Theron Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD questions References: <5c93c4d2-897b-0671-b29a-9fde6031adf5@gmail.com> <6467df72-92de-64b5-5a2c-f23b415543b1@gmail.com> <8dc58802-5849-93c2-0ba2-e321a589e6a3@gmail.com> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <28c59a7f-8f9e-4a33-2546-5b97c0c4f33d@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 01:08:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8dc58802-5849-93c2-0ba2-e321a589e6a3@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48rqRN5wsrz44Wy X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JQkYXHYO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::343 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[78.147.66.79.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; ZRD_FAIL(0.00)[query timed out]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.87), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.37), asn: 15169(-0.45), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:08:30 -0000 On 30/03/2020 20:36, Theron wrote: > On 2020-03-30 15:06, Graham Perrin wrote: >> Worth noting: if I attempt to suspend the system whilst the device at >> 3 (SteelSeries Siberia 350 headphones with integral microphone >> ) is physically >> connected, suspend sometimes fails; it becomes necessary to force off >> the computer. > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=194727 > Theron, thank you! That might explain a recent sense of randomness with the symptoms. I've been testing in three different boot environments, only one of which is above the 358629 at : grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ % beadm list BE       Active Mountpoint  Space Created Waterfox -      -          383.2M 2020-03-10 18:24 r357746f -      -          148.3M 2020-03-20 06:19 r359249b -      -           15.8G 2020-03-28 01:19 r357746g NR     /           60.9G 2020-03-31 00:24 (In retrospect, most remarkable to me was that the bug could bite before logging in; taking the 'Sleep' option in sddm did not lead to a suspend of the system. Hopefully fixed for FreeBSD-CURRENT by r358629; I'll not test now, maybe later in the week.) 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That might explain a recent sense of randomness > with the symptoms. I've been testing in three different boot > environments, only one of which is above the 358629 at > : I don't know what would be attaching to mixer before login.  For me the problem is predictable: suspending after I've opened a player reliably hangs kernel, and killing every user of /dev/dsp* /dev/mixer* before sleep reliably avoids the problem.  Maybe something is attaching on startup. > (In retrospect, most remarkable to me was that the bug could bite > before logging in; taking the 'Sleep' option in sddm did not lead to a > suspend of the system. Hopefully fixed for FreeBSD-CURRENT by r358629; > I'll not test now, maybe later in the week.) As I understand it, r358629 adds a mechanism that applications can use to "do the right thing" but does not fix the underlying kernel vulnerability. 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Grimes" Message-Id: <202003311248.02VCmGLN060857@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ZFS: OpenZFS: lost the ability to boot a BE In-Reply-To: <684735bc-49f9-4161-3f44-186d9da59bb5@freebsd.org> To: Allan Jude Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 05:48:16 -0700 (PDT) CC: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48s8NT2K1mz3Qwm X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:51:55 -0000 > To temporarily mount a ZFS filesystem: > > mount -t zfs poolname/data/set /path/here Is there anyway to get the zfs command to add mountpoint as a temporary value like it does some of the others so that zfs mount -o mountpoint=/mnt poolname/data/set would just do the right thing? > > > On 2020-03-30 19:53, Graham Perrin wrote: > > On 30/03/2020 19:47, Graham Perrin wrote: > >> I lost the ability to boot the environment named 'r357746', I suspect > >> this occurred after I set it to use OpenZFS in lieu of ZFS. > >> > >> I would like to edit its /boot/loader.conf (revert to zfs_load="YES") > >> but re: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/4553 I can not think of > >> a way to mount the dataset. > >> > >> Please, how can I proceed? > > > > Whilst booted from a different environment, I mounted the dataset whilst > > in single user mode, edited /boot/loader.conf ? a little tricky, because > > after the mount I could no longer use zfs commands (ZFS library > > initialisation failed, words to that effect). Then beadm to activate the > > BE, and shutdown -r now > > > > Success :-) > > > > With zfs_load="YES" (in lieu of openzfs_load="YES") the BE is usable. > > > >> ---- > >> > >> Re: ZFS: destroying snapshots without compromising boot environments > >> > >> On 28/03/2020 15:36, Graham Perrin wrote: > >>> On 28/03/2020 15:19, Allan Jude wrote: > >>> > >>> > You can try to destroy the snapshot, if it is the basis of a clone, > >>> then > >>> > you will get an error, that you'd need to destroy the BE first, so you > >>> > might decide to keep that snapshot. As long as you don't use the -R > >>> flag > >>> > to zfs destroy dataset@snapshot, it will not destroy the clones. > >>> > > >>> > You can also use 'zfs promote' to make the clone into the parent, > >>> making > >>> > the original parent into the clone. This allows you to destroy that > >>> > original and the snapshot while keeping the clone. > >>> > >>> Perfect, thank you. I was nervous about destruction without warning. > >>> > >>> Below, are the differences (in measurement) between beadm and bectl > >>> to be expected? > >>> > >>> ---- > >>> > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list > >>> BE?????? Active Mountpoint? Space Created > >>> Waterfox -????? -?????????? 15.9G 2020-03-10 18:24 > >>> r357746f -????? -??????????? 1.3G 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> r359249b NR???? /?????????? 74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # beadm list -aDs > >>> BE/Dataset/Snapshot??????????????????????????? Active Mountpoint > >>> Space Created > >>> > >>> Waterfox > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox???????????????????? -????? - 137.0M > >>> 2020-03-10 18:24 > >>> ??? r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17?????????????? -????? - 59.2G > >>> 2020-03-17 21:57 > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 -????? - 67.0M > >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> > >>> r357746f > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f???????????????????? -????? - 1.2G > >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> ??? Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45?????????????? -????? - 59.2G > >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> > >>> r359249b > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 -????? - 15.7G > >>> 2020-03-17 21:57 > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b???????????????????? NR???? / 59.0G > >>> 2020-03-28 01:19 > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list > >>> BE?????? Active Mountpoint Space Created > >>> Waterfox -????? -????????? 204M? 2020-03-10 18:24 > >>> r357746f -????? -????????? 1.21G 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> r359249b NR???? /????????? 74.7G 2020-03-28 01:19 > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # bectl list -aDs > >>> BE/Dataset/Snapshot????????????????????????????? Active Mountpoint > >>> Space Created > >>> > >>> Waterfox > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox?????????????????????? -????? - 204M > >>> 2020-03-10 18:24 > >>> ? Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45?????????????????? -????? - 67.0M > >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> > >>> r357746f > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f?????????????????????? -????? - 1.21G > >>> 2020-03-20 06:19 > >>> > >>> r359249b > >>> ? copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b?????????????????????? NR???? / 74.7G > >>> 2020-03-28 01:19 > >>> ? r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17?????????????????? -????? - 15.7G > >>> 2020-03-17 21:57 > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list -t snapshot > >>> NAME???????????????????????????????????????????????????? USED AVAIL? > >>> REFER? MOUNTPOINT > >>> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45??????????? 67.0M - 59.2G? - > >>> copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17??????????? 15.7G - 59.2G? - > >>> copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root@jbrowsers???? 8K - 1.24G? - > >>> copperbowl/poudriere/jails/head@clean??????????????????? 328K - 1.89G? - > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs destroy > >>> copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17 > >>> cannot destroy 'copperbowl/ROOT/r359249b@2020-03-17-21:57:17': > >>> snapshot has dependent clones > >>> use '-R' to destroy the following datasets: > >>> copperbowl/ROOT/r357746f > >>> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox@2020-03-20-06:19:45 > >>> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # date ; uname -v > >>> Sat Mar 28 15:30:57 GMT 2020 > >>> FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #1 r359249: Tue Mar 24 00:12:27 GMT 2020 > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG > >>> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > Allan Jude > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 1 20:02:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BD02A133D; 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WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5cae4eda-b3e9-a65e-a2dc-8f9435f20236@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hAhpB183ESiq4JnvoER6u3fdibCxUU2uS" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48sxtR52RYz43th X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.69 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.88)[-0.878,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.81)[-0.808,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:02:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --hAhpB183ESiq4JnvoER6u3fdibCxUU2uS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="LMi2jioEqeRQRcGT6tfC5cpMDy3HsIJ62"; protected-headers="v1" From: Allan Jude To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers Message-ID: <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Office Hours: April 1, 2020 18:00 UTC References: <5cae4eda-b3e9-a65e-a2dc-8f9435f20236@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <5cae4eda-b3e9-a65e-a2dc-8f9435f20236@freebsd.org> --LMi2jioEqeRQRcGT6tfC5cpMDy3HsIJ62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-03-29 20:25, Allan Jude wrote: > Hello everyone >=20 > This coming Wednesday at 18:00 UTC we will hold the first "FreeBSD > Office Hours", an interactive online event where users, contributors, > and developers can ask questions and get advice. >=20 > We are still experimenting with the format, but the first iteration wil= l > be an open Google Meet: >=20 > https://meet.google.com/yak-ydnk-rnc >=20 > That will also be recorded and posted to Youtube later in the day. >=20 > We are still seeking some additional src, ports, and docs committers to= > help field the questions as well. >=20 Our first FreeBSD Office Hours event was a success with over 60 people in attendance. I've not had time to edit and post the video yet, but it is available in the DVR buffer on the streaming page: https://live.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/officehours/ We covered various topics including: - What is everyone favourite feature of FreeBSD - Status of the OpenZFS port, is it production ready - Bugs related to disappeared JBOD disks with CAM and mpr(4) - How to find FreeBSD with similar interests and/or a mentor - Wiki pages with ideas: JrJobs, SoC Ideas, WantedPorts, etc - Pair Programming opportunities - How to popularize poudriere for custom package building in the enterpr= ise - Using Office Hours to host tutorial like sessions - Call for Help for docbook -> markdown project - In progress repo: https://github.com/allanjude/docs - Rendered: http://www.bsdbasement.com/freebsd-handbook/ - Conversion Tool: https://github.com/allanjude/docbookrx - Reducing the barrier to writing documentation - Improving the organization to make it easier to find 'formal' and 'informal (howto)' type documentation - Using Office Hours to smooth transition to git - pkgbase, will there be a semi-official repo - How will BSDCan be run online this year? - Why is there a sock on Dan's microphone - The problem with pkg mirrors and download speeds (Europe, Australia) - How to fix the pkg repo layout to make it safe to cache - What embedded/SBCs are best supported, and will likely to continue to - Has anyone been using the ssh-audit package? is it good? - What is missing for OpenZFS to be merged into FreeBSD - Integrating the FreeBSD ZFS Test Suite (ATF based) into OpenZFS (ksh based) - Are there any bugs people would like to mention, to maybe bring attention to? - PF - ZFS + unbalanced NUMA - VNET + PF - LACP issues - LAGG/NIC MAC change issues - Is it safe to run dtrace long-term in production - rsyslog not working properly on FreeBSD We hope to try this again in 2 weeks, at a different time to make it easier for people who could not attend this week. 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(I kept world >>> there and varied the kernel version >>> for the approximate bisect activity.) >>> >>> It seems that at least one of the >>> "MI-namespace" atomics added do not work >>> in all its usage-contexts on the cortexA7 >>> (armv7) involved. >> >> It looks like my previous reply didn't go to the mailing lists. I'm >> new to >> mutt. >> >> Anyway, I looked at this problem yesterday and it seems r359311 >> enables >> using some atomic operations that were not being used until now. In >> particular, atomic_fcmpset_8() seems broken and hangs up >> in vm_page_bits_swap(). I think I have a fix but I want to run it >> by Ian. >> >> --Thomas >> >> Index: sys/arm/include/atomic-v6.h >> =================================================================== >> --- sys/arm/include/atomic-v6.h (revision 359412) >> +++ sys/arm/include/atomic-v6.h (working copy) >> @@ -196,7 +196,7 @@ >> \ >> __asm __volatile( \ >> "1: ldrex" SUF " %[tmp], [%[ptr]] \n" \ >> - " ldr %[ret], [%[oldv]] \n" \ >> + " ldr" SUF " %[ret], [%[oldv]] \n" \ >> " teq %[tmp], %[ret] \n" \ >> " ittee ne \n" \ >> " str" SUF "ne %[tmp], [%[oldv]] \n" \ >> > > > I've committed this fix as r359423, thanks! Thanks to both of you: the OPi+2e boots just fine now and has been operating like it used to (head -r359427 in use). === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 04:30:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F002B7164 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 04:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48t99G6PQPz4N4W for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 04:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 0324UWAA068765 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: freebsd-current Subject: How does everyone get a synced console after a fresh install? Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 21:30:38 -0700 Message-Id: <3646f179849df4a7b89b049c08a815e9@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48t99G6PQPz4N4W X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.71 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.81)[-0.810,0]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 04:30:49 -0000 OK I just installed a fresh copy of 13 from an official memstick image=2E All went as expected=2E But upon reboot, I'm missing about 4 to 5 characters on the left hand side of the screen=2E I know vesa is built into GENERIC=2E But vidcontrol(1) won't help=2E I've tried both sc(4), and vt(4)=2E Is textmode no longer supported? Thanks for any, and all insight into solving this=2E --Chris From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 07:57:24 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F7C2741B7; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 07:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.antonovs.family", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tFlT1JV4z3F76; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 07:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=antonovs.family; s=20200215; t=1585814216; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1DWlmgC3hXSwofJXx9sNFHqg9YRUtuZM3trReRNkAII=; b=omYXB/fjLGzI2ISKBhAqRYia+IBCy6iTLJhI1KbPoq4inZMggEQKl6qQX1RKd8tQVDNp9y zV2OnVFtioZ3nixfJAL65+9MMWBLV5AR1bNEU5dWyzhpEMboF6PJC1HU66CKzSsHiW4a9V btzsd+sPYdmPO13WGKBQGRZYchfJBLY= Received: by mail.antonovs.family (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5b42eedc (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 2 Apr 2020 07:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 00:56:53 -0700 From: Ihor Antonov To: Allan Jude Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: FreeBSD Office Hours: April 1, 2020 18:00 UTC Message-ID: <20200402075653.wi4jcapp5mdg44sy@sea-ll-10936> References: <5cae4eda-b3e9-a65e-a2dc-8f9435f20236@freebsd.org> <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tFlT1JV4z3F76 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=antonovs.family header.s=20200215 header.b=omYXB/fj; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[antonovs.family:s=20200215]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.39)[ip: (-9.33), ipnet: 100.24.0.0/13(-4.53), asn: 14618(-3.02), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[antonovs.family:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 07:57:25 -0000 On 2020-04-01 16:01, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2020-03-29 20:25, Allan Jude wrote: > > Our first FreeBSD Office Hours event was a success with over 60 people > in attendance. > > I've not had time to edit and post the video yet, but it is available in > the DVR buffer on the streaming page: > > https://live.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/officehours/ Hi Allan, Is there a recording available? 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(Rarely needed. I forget.) Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Is there anyway to get the zfs command to add mountpoint as > a temporary value like it does some of the others so that > > zfs mount -o mountpoint=/mnt poolname/data/set > > would just do the right thing? 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Partial record: ---- … root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # pkg upgrade Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. Updating poudriere repository catalogue... poudriere repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. Checking for upgrades (15 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (15 candidates): 100% solver: cannot find provide for requirement libopenblas.so when processing package: py27-numpy solver: cannot find provide for requirement libopenblas.so when processing package: suitesparse solver: cannot find provide for requirement libdioritegtk-0.2.so when processing package: nuvolaplayer solver: cannot find provide for requirement libdioriteglib-0.2.so when processing package: nuvolaplayer solver: cannot find provide for requirement libopenblas.so when processing package: coin-or-CoinUtils Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # pkg upgrade virtualbox-ose Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. Updating poudriere repository catalogue... poudriere repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. solver: cannot find provide for requirement libcurl.so.4 when processing package: virtualbox-ose … ---- Context: From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 21:01:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DA2264E06 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tb802CGGz3Cyc for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 032L0uIJ045300 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: freebsd-current Subject: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:01:02 -0700 Message-Id: <0818c0f4b638fb71b1225b37dd121fcd@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tb802CGGz3Cyc X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.946,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 21:01:07 -0000 I just performed a fresh install from an official install image=2E But am unable to see the entire console (missing ~5 characters on the left hand side of (LCD) monitor=2E GENERIC uses vt(4)=2E So I decided to see if sc(4) would help, and added kern_vty=3Dsc to loader=2Econf(5)=2E However=2E That seems to have been ignored=2E How to get it on a fresh install? Thanks! --Chris From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 21:11:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CD5265338 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tbNC0fbWz3Hm0 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 032LBVTH045559 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0818c0f4b638fb71b1225b37dd121fcd@udns.ultimatedns.net> From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: freebsd-current Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:11:37 -0700 Message-Id: <7d6fb0c762f6943340e5b5540081a074@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tbNC0fbWz3Hm0 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.946,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 21:11:42 -0000 On Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:01:02 -0700 bsd-lists@BSDforge=2Ecom said > I just performed a fresh install from an official install image=2E > But am unable to see the entire console (missing ~5 characters > on the left hand side of (LCD) monitor=2E GENERIC uses vt(4)=2E So > I decided to see if sc(4) would help, and added kern_vty=3Dsc > to loader=2Econf(5)=2E However=2E That seems to have been ignored=2E >=20 > How to get it on a fresh install? Ahem=2E=2E=2E I used the wrong syntax=2E changing the entry to kern=2Evty=3Dsc solved it! :) Sorry for the noise! :( --Chris >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > --Chris >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list > https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg= " From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 21:16:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560542657CF for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tbV231hZz3KJp for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 032LGXea045637 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3646f179849df4a7b89b049c08a815e9@udns.ultimatedns.net> From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: freebsd-current Subject: Re: How does everyone get a synced console after a fresh install? Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:16:39 -0700 Message-Id: <08419fe2acd2b0d00beaba0f6579ee1f@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tbV231hZz3KJp X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.946,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 21:16:43 -0000 On Wed, 01 Apr 2020 21:30:38 -0700 bsd-lists@BSDforge=2Ecom said > OK I just installed a fresh copy of 13 from an official > memstick image=2E All went as expected=2E But upon reboot, > I'm missing about 4 to 5 characters on the left hand > side of the screen=2E I know vesa is built into GENERIC=2E > But vidcontrol(1) won't help=2E I've tried both sc(4), and > vt(4)=2E Is textmode no longer supported? >=20 > Thanks for any, and all insight into solving this=2E >=20 OK I was able to solve this=2E I used the wrong syntax in loader=2Econf(5) changing kern_vty=3Dsc to kern=2Evty=3Dsc fixed it=2E I now have a fully working console! :) Thanks for your time, and sorry for the noise! --Chris > --Chris >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list > https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg= " From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 21:18:20 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839B42658D8 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from mail.rlwinm.de (mail.rlwinm.de [138.201.35.217]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tbWY71Yvz3Kl3 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from crest-mbp.local (200116b864a73400c44f5c7f432a529b.dip.versatel-1u1.de [IPv6:2001:16b8:64a7:3400:c44f:5c7f:432a:529b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rlwinm.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2F6A34B00 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Office Hours: April 1, 2020 18:00 UTC To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <5cae4eda-b3e9-a65e-a2dc-8f9435f20236@freebsd.org> <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> <20200402075653.wi4jcapp5mdg44sy@sea-ll-10936> From: Jan Bramkamp Message-ID: <721b0600-29aa-d5c9-1757-016ee10de77d@rlwinm.de> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 23:17:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200402075653.wi4jcapp5mdg44sy@sea-ll-10936> Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tbWY71Yvz3Kl3 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of crest@rlwinm.de designates 138.201.35.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=crest@rlwinm.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[7]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rlwinm.de]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.87)[ip: (-8.81), ipnet: 138.201.0.0/16(1.07), asn: 24940(-1.57), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[b.9.2.5.a.2.3.4.f.7.c.5.f.4.4.c.0.0.4.3.7.a.4.6.8.b.6.1.1.0.0.2.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:138.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 21:18:21 -0000 On 02.04.20 09:56, Ihor Antonov wrote: > On 2020-04-01 16:01, Allan Jude wrote: >> On 2020-03-29 20:25, Allan Jude wrote: >> >> Our first FreeBSD Office Hours event was a success with over 60 people >> in attendance. >> >> I've not had time to edit and post the video yet, but it is available in >> the DVR buffer on the streaming page: >> >> https://live.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/officehours/ > Hi Allan, > > Is there a recording available? I missed the event :( > The recording is at:https://live.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/officehours/ . From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 23:32:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DFE26A775 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 23:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f179.google.com (mail-il1-f179.google.com [209.85.166.179]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tfVR75Lhz3DqZ for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 23:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-f179.google.com with SMTP id a6so5476468ilr.4 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 16:32:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Tuo0ZXMnlTy2Y+KU0GDZI6eo6nDBcKumRulqtFgXJk0=; b=pCMOIMIrW8/SCEbEJSSTV8GAw4u6xKaEe+NJa2SNsXuRQtJu6D2uBPCsiMYJdl6A2g MWJoHv8Q31tYlYNGE4tTH/m2C8H5V0rIVGksTykF/aR0si+FCeLtZhprHotLAoHDdKIK Zx0/Z2m1B0DmvsEoiXsyIrmPgCm3Ypr4/HgK8s/4oVjPPs0Go0Bv3HW5oIzkudyjOezW WLzHx6036Ds3eIoJqHqfvRG3F3k64/HK6ueXX8aHsu5Rw5jbEus6KlVgTUHyUXLuSNJB y34ccHXzKw69qT+7aSs/44MfYfTVKNml64QJ9uuvyDSDZHsfyzz7Fxid1gykDmscvDXg SrOg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuamsonPu+TxZaETQGIi9iOTPg0BY3uPkL1AVoFTqXDZ13q8y/QQ 31J7n8fe2onLv1Siam2p+zO+7Vo7V36M5qE5p0ifvNQQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJohK/krEiA+jVmhgK0/Qt+wHLHdlmLWVqF0082FIG6dfAgx6hXWvnOQ+SC13cWsiDThd5PtWWI5JmpK7uRiis= X-Received: by 2002:a92:778e:: with SMTP id s136mr6075231ilc.256.1585870325289; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 16:32:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0818c0f4b638fb71b1225b37dd121fcd@udns.ultimatedns.net> <7d6fb0c762f6943340e5b5540081a074@udns.ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <7d6fb0c762f6943340e5b5540081a074@udns.ultimatedns.net> From: Ed Maste Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:31:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? To: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Cc: freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tfVR75Lhz3DqZ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[179.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.50)[ip: (-6.48), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-0.51), asn: 15169(-0.44), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[179.166.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 23:32:26 -0000 On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 17:13, Chris wrote: > > Ahem... I used the wrong syntax. > changing the entry to > > kern.vty=sc > > solved it! :) I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can identify and resolve the issue you encountered. The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting hw.vga.textmode=1 From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 2 23:50:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7163326B4C3 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 23:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tfv32vTdz3LbD; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 23:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 032NnxaJ048126 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Apr 2020 16:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-current In-Reply-To: From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: Ed Maste Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 16:50:05 -0700 Message-Id: <5db131e0bafc0fe56c3ab90b4407e509@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tfv32vTdz3LbD X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.81 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.904,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.905,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 23:50:09 -0000 On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:31:53 -0400 Ed Maste emaste@freebsd=2Eorg said > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 17:13, Chris wrote: > > > > Ahem=2E=2E=2E I used the wrong syntax=2E > > changing the entry to > > > > kern=2Evty=3Dsc > > > > solved it! :) >=20 > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > identify and resolve the issue you encountered=2E >=20 > The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting > hw=2Evga=2Etextmode=3D1 Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Ed! The box in question is in the middle of a big build session ATM=2E But when it's finished, I'll happily try your suggestion=2E I'll report back with my findings=2E Thanks again! --Chris From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 08:25:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D926C27901F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48ttKY5Kynz44nf; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 08:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 0338PCQT002157 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2020 01:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-current In-Reply-To: From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: Ed Maste Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 01:25:18 -0700 Message-Id: <8ce3e38fbc077efe224ad1454f696551@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48ttKY5Kynz44nf X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.81 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.904,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.905,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 08:25:26 -0000 On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:31:53 -0400 Ed Maste emaste@freebsd=2Eorg said > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 17:13, Chris wrote: > > > > Ahem=2E=2E=2E I used the wrong syntax=2E > > changing the entry to > > > > kern=2Evty=3Dsc > > > > solved it! :) >=20 > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > identify and resolve the issue you encountered=2E >=20 > The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting > hw=2Evga=2Etextmode=3D1 Attempting your suggestion returned: sysctl: unknown oid 'hw=2Evga=2Etextmode' Thanks for trying! I guess I should look into attempting to put some effort into sc(4) and try to find out why it's being depreciated=2E If it's just lack of commitment to it=2E I'll see if I can't take it on myself=2E :) Thanks again! :) --Chris From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 11:40:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AF727DED3 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eivinde@terraplane.org) Received: from smtp.domeneshop.no (smtp.domeneshop.no [IPv6:2a01:5b40:0:3005::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tyf83G1bz4JmZ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eivinde@terraplane.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=terraplane.org; s=ds201912; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eA9rpaP9/ECbfUbarzIuh0GzxHQSChy0w7BWJNO4WaE=; b=vmp0Rqw8BWoJ81IMBTj0QDR9XE siuwH1aS/zXMN6vu8EVN2iEu/kPFHCZaHn3usQ+4NPU8kRkl3ngsZ0QCIkQAniTkbHAOTZm18ukdA kSy1ZNEYfHqNJ5aTHduxDMY4xb3m5tVzeIlyajgQr5r9isTTlKx+8EOwMSWYQ+fNiuhKnTJIzWkmE rKkpQOEVmwcxoZXuzDhUpvuXyhU3MZZRxsokeMsTfgBX6a6qNq3PVTjsF5Y+YX9r/l8YR8gicXxXN kVb3wHzQRc9RhhHT0frv9/2kHTxvsde+fsQDcJqwCxB/ov9RvTX02JwmCLP/Uq4/rZEcycfmxqqNg CzP+gAXA==; Received: from ti0027a400-1049.bb.online.no ([85.164.11.29]:24866 helo=elg.hjerdalen.lokalnett) by smtp.domeneshop.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jKKfs-0004Jl-Pv; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:39:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 13:39:14 +0200 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: Ed Maste Cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Message-ID: <20200403133914.244009f1@elg.hjerdalen.lokalnett> In-Reply-To: References: <0818c0f4b638fb71b1225b37dd121fcd@udns.ultimatedns.net> <7d6fb0c762f6943340e5b5540081a074@udns.ultimatedns.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tyf83G1bz4JmZ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:40:05 -0000 Den Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:31:53 -0400 skrev Ed Maste : > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 17:13, Chris wrote: > > > > Ahem... I used the wrong syntax. > > changing the entry to > > > > kern.vty=sc > > > > solved it! :) > > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > identify and resolve the issue you encountered. This is probably side-tracking a bit, but since I never figured out how to make vt handle 8859-1, it has become a habit for me to change between vt when using x11 and sc when I need console. Has anything changed for this lately? -- Eivind Nicolay Evensen From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 11:50:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1189727E5D9 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from dec.sakura.ne.jp (dec.sakura.ne.jp [210.188.226.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48tytK37fpz4N6g for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from kalamity.joker.local (124-18-96-116.dz.commufa.jp [124.18.96.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by dec.sakura.ne.jp (8.15.2/8.15.2/[SAKURA-WEB]/20080708) with ESMTPA id 033BAavZ003153; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 20:10:36 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 20:10:36 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? 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I used the wrong syntax. > > > changing the entry to > > > > > > kern.vty=sc > > > > > > solved it! :) > > > > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > > identify and resolve the issue you encountered. > > > > The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting > > hw.vga.textmode=1 > Attempting your suggestion returned: > > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.vga.textmode' Hi. Have you tried via command line, /etc/sysctl.conf or /etc/rc.conf? If so, try setting it in /boot/loader.conf and reboot. hw.vga.textmode is tunable, so can be set only by loader. % grep -r -n "hw.vga" /usr/src/sys/ | fgrep textmode /usr/src/sys/dev/vt/hw/vga/vt_vga.c:1298: * If "hw.vga.textmode" is not set and we're running on hypervisor, /usr/src/sys/dev/vt/hw/vga/vt_vga.c:1304: TUNABLE_INT_FETCH("hw.vga.textmode", &textmode); ^^^^^^^ > Thanks for trying! > > I guess I should look into attempting to put some effort into sc(4) > and try to find out why it's being depreciated. If it's just lack > of commitment to it. I'll see if I can't take it on myself. :) > > Thanks again! :) > > --Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Tomoaki AOKI From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 16:44:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D823A260A60 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48v5P60QCJz4JGx for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 033GGpSQ008408 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: In-Reply-To: <20200403201036.50289ae6fef5b13fcff75f62@dec.sakura.ne.jp> From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 09:16:58 -0700 Message-Id: <357b35f69b6935268e829b95985abe1f@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48v5P60QCJz4JGx X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.93 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.969,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.957,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:44:14 -0000 On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 20:10:36 +0900 junchoon@dec=2Esakura=2Ene=2Ejp said > On Fri, 03 Apr 2020 01:25:18 -0700 > Chris wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:31:53 -0400 Ed Maste emaste@freebsd=2Eorg said > >=20 > > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 17:13, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > > Ahem=2E=2E=2E I used the wrong syntax=2E > > > > changing the entry to > > > > > > > > kern=2Evty=3Dsc > > > > > > > > solved it! :) > > >=20 > > > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > > > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > > > identify and resolve the issue you encountered=2E > > >=20 > > > The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting > > > hw=2Evga=2Etextmode=3D1 > > Attempting your suggestion returned: > >=20 > > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw=2Evga=2Etextmode' >=20 > Hi=2E > Have you tried via command line, /etc/sysctl=2Econf or /etc/rc=2Econf? > If so, try setting it in /boot/loader=2Econf and reboot=2E >=20 > hw=2Evga=2Etextmode is tunable, so can be set only by loader=2E Sigh=2E=2E=2E I'm afraid it was quite late last night when I attempted this, and I took it out of context=2E Yes=2E Adding the line to *loader=2Econf(5)* worked as intended=2E Sorry for all the bother=2E :( Thanks for your kind help=2E :) --Chris >=20 > % grep -r -n "hw=2Evga" /usr/src/sys/ | fgrep textmode > /usr/src/sys/dev/vt/hw/vga/vt_vga=2Ec:1298:=09 * If > "hw=2Evga=2Etextmode" is not set and we're running on > hypervisor, > /usr/src/sys/dev/vt/hw/vga/vt_vga=2Ec:1304: > TUNABLE_INT_FETCH("hw=2Evga=2Etextmode", &textmode); > ^^^^^^^ >=20 >=20 > > Thanks for trying! > >=20 > > I guess I should look into attempting to put some effort into sc(4) > > and try to find out why it's being depreciated=2E If it's just lack > > of commitment to it=2E I'll see if I can't take it on myself=2E :) > >=20 > > Thanks again! :) > >=20 > > --Chris > >=20 > --=20 > Tomoaki AOKI From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 18:02:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B6F262EB4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f67.google.com (mail-io1-f67.google.com [209.85.166.67]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48v7744Kcfz3Jjr for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f67.google.com with SMTP id b12so8434740ion.8 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KpghlpvQ6hTxVb1MT670RMhGstzk+acGeJDg85+MKrk=; b=dnLY3h/M/GTLEbJgkFRmdbk60nEkh7qLW841R1LqNceEhxyUwJGlhWgfh4gD7khhpb NFvCVSbLiWhqMmfE0EBb2QhYuzl++5LpTd7Ke22v0qqGA8s72YJjBEX32rFetU+hvO6g E5WL5jOaVhzYsmOPZP9t7douTolYZsjo2MzgV+1aAHRgLbjiWRlSgXctWb8BtsDv991j 9jY1aHJeWlr+UTb/y7wYMwPCi0sZuZpSIDZzdRQzqY37khhZoHU3T6c58AH/2RmFiLiW QraMiEobPO0zOYQYayM3qmo6onqNUL6N3b7oOzx8Ozlz7lam+pKOq6hi6b97oZeA2Mf/ xdTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubfQ4KrWCfbgL8/nWaBhSwqSR83V2EV6lxuIvOT3e+AarPBlYY5 HQ+H2idBmXNY3ZruPehDw/ZUNYkgH9hrg1xMWo55YA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK3+n/b09VqRc+SX6KTksSDJAHT9XW2Tg00awO04A48XLiQzE/+At/Jy1eBom060d1jeHr5wcXCgB6M8XyFLbk= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d20f:: with SMTP id q15mr9076476iob.179.1585936919488; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8ce3e38fbc077efe224ad1454f696551@udns.ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <8ce3e38fbc077efe224ad1454f696551@udns.ultimatedns.net> From: Ed Maste Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:01:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? 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I used the wrong syntax. > > > changing the entry to > > > > > > kern.vty=sc > > > > > > solved it! :) > > > > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > > identify and resolve the issue you encountered. > > > > The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting > > hw.vga.textmode=1 > Attempting your suggestion returned: > > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.vga.textmode' Sorry for being unclear - it's a loader tunable, so you need to set it from the loader prompt or in /boot/loader.conf. 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Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:27:28 +0200 From: Stefan Ehmann To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HOWTO donate CPU to the fight against the Corona-virus Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:27:27 +0200 Message-ID: <5219387.8gLySxXtyI@walrus.pepperland> In-Reply-To: <1804877.u6MfGjpqfb@walrus.pepperland> References: <20200319085745.Horde.yAf5603LMT07oVm8NR1Abs6@webmail.leidinger.net> <20200321120755.Horde.zo0-HJ_AnsKmqqmFSb98-e8@webmail.leidinger.net> <1804877.u6MfGjpqfb@walrus.pepperland> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:xWi5VyEkXwfRHW1zTLzK7v/vz4Fy5Us63EG7UI2yj6N5JjH7kYD q8cpTwHPwB6C+gazswliEnMbtQT4wzr2BEedP87lroWHRkIycEtqTlHv4KB6rRVj8DL6K9B gtKc2RpLX0/eh6YfvUyFXbE2P3iaQ0ZV1IGpYmstQqhbk4B8n4QVZZw4akB0z8M2YkNcIur cPsEzUxx8LTsAUwJQ2oFQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:7cLwcfZS+VM=:4v3njl/i2cZIJ5Cc2EQAXB lndHBX7i3VwprvR9tpAZTWHrOaYq7FOMN4+xEsnV7bSxVpfjiiMQ3cucwkqybAehjp98DFg8D 8hbZnXc59g9C8fNWN3vJr9pDBOFgnRoRjEA8yxt1bA7dv2YAmDrtJ17qo0B/XRAOMxm0/SWVa d4Lrw5BjZadSX08ey2GcZ62L2zNQJkP1zGe8eBgg1nrip//r41fa6ASR+R4laR2yWHd2EcO9x O8N/BJg+c1ImDomCrewX4Oy9XUl4zVHVCG+sjABA+NE0VI74gaEDUeZsIZZDbzxmF1eTYrpzP 8o+SBnmeBLVzN+ptZJ4ZJZ7miDTXnMrBecDV9iVVmh/x+2uRkU5p5krhAd3FlzMRNmJ9H3mgj ggdQ1+lTmBv1C2vClLEOLstY3VzZmf70akthHrrz91DF33Y52xlThCsiZQP2Y8WDk4vA9Qbjr O7181wv6+mgKviW6hK/PHkZkB7+hPFSjKfA4hBeFd0qP3QdHtmYNVZ0WnEBiwcajEGLMh8tcM VBwpW8ilTlo6wNBCDW1oOkWi/WVos1j3L+lcDPYPZE+t4yTFvtXMYF3LD8Caxr2BAo0xqQjQW hagaHVG29UzR+uri3zLYeuqbB32k6Gb4Ko4klZEDS5XBLUOz9qNTJ19lsA4O3cnN/6cE9haoa sFb6/+GPD1AokfSRBBFVI4BXZztCFO4f69hvUmfrNIrfk3YmDfXYkwY8kGF8uzttxj30LKKiZ v+Wl6u4KulTEW9iuqMqUzR2oRHogadNT9GWDrdDpbeC5YDJntxJ1SLgpY6sx+K15LjXLTHQa8 aLhpfTsbmkVukWfXAFLyz1fJR5KMBGTQBrCwYPV1hpj3KU64gwMNq+yev3N0ywvq5iYyprNjN CC6UIYJRFFGpaZT4NJ/az2rhIM9sFsrf2ODE9BO9k7hBt33sxAy4E9BAop+N43HpWseTOKz40 Ot75wiA/LplZs7wD0S3AYwXtVor5UqENuxRA8oHQpjYUdToZJprK2UcachZGyrfSuTQ22DBQ+ 5WmZG+axqeS3R09zSErFdobkleSrIX3Gb5JTcLDkFAOf4jcL2a4eK5g3J0rGhEjlgsoKgIBQM lBmWaNHVV9Kc8963vaXRrRiV8BN5pBUcE3lR4fetslrqUnWJ4G/HfjazFrEl9/P3RxyEEmDAY 2JJlwk1Ak40pdGVyyjjZHfwzN6zmNSdFO6f9mUakSnsiEremKS6Glo6Wp0UlYx1VJsJb5g7tL AG/KFP66wl/OrXAvT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48v7hW29npz3y0f X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmx.net]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 18:27:48 -0000 On Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:38:31 AM CEST Stefan Ehmann wrote: > On Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:07:55 PM CET Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Quoting Stefan Ehmann (from Sat, 21 Mar 2020 > > > > 11:38:26 +0100): > > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:57:45 AM CET Alexander Leidinger via > > > freebsd- > > > > > > stable wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> if someone wants to donate some FreeBSD based CPU resources to the > > >> fight against the Corona-virus, here is a quick HOWTO in terms of > > >> installing the Folding@Home client on FreeBSD: > > >> > > >> https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2020/03/19/fighting-the-coronavirus-= with > > >> -f > > >> ree bsd-foldinghome/ > > > > > > Unfortunately, (using a CPU slot for the same work unit) TPF is 2-3 > > > times > > > slower than on Ubuntu for me. Much of the speed difference seems to > > > be related > > > to libOpenCL. If remove libOpenCL on Ubuntu, it's still 20-30% faste= r > > > than > > > on FreeBSD. > > > > The pure CPU based code should be the same. Someone would have to > > trace / reverse engineer what is going on. > > I'm pretty sure now that libOpenCL is only relevant for GPU slots. > > I couldn't reproduce that the presence of libOpenCL.so has any effect on= CPU > slots. Didn't make much sense anyway, something else must have been goin= g > on. So there's probably no point in getting OpenCL to run on FreeBSD unt= il > we have GPU rendering. > > The numbers displayed by FAHControl are rather strange: > * There is no discernible difference in speed if 1 or all CPU cores are = used > (but top shows that 600% CPU cycles are burned) - happens on both Ubuntu > and Linuxolator > * According to the progress bar, Ubuntu completes 1% per minute, but > Linuxolator only 0.1% (for the same work unit) > > Don't know if the numbers displayed are bogus or there is really that mu= ch > of a difference. Maybe the issue is only related to a specific WU or to > AMD-CPUs. Just a short update: I've tested the port with a different WU and everything seems normal. Spee= d is comparable to Linux and multi-core also works as expected. My previous problems can probably be ignored, not sure what the problem actually was. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 18:50:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81636264949 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48v8C71Mwtz46nX; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 033IocgS013673 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-current In-Reply-To: From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: Ed Maste Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:50:44 -0700 Message-Id: <5ef1c042a43bc91aa11b0459673254b0@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48v8C71Mwtz46nX X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.81 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.934,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.879,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 18:50:49 -0000 On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:01:47 -0400 Ed Maste emaste@freebsd=2Eorg said > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 04:25, Chris wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:31:53 -0400 Ed Maste emaste@freebsd=2Eorg said > > > > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 17:13, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > > Ahem=2E=2E=2E I used the wrong syntax=2E > > > > changing the entry to > > > > > > > > kern=2Evty=3Dsc > > > > > > > > solved it! :) > > > > > > I'm glad it's working for you, but note that sc(4) is deprecated and > > > has no ongoing effort behind it, so it would be best if we can > > > identify and resolve the issue you encountered=2E > > > > > > The first thing you can try is vt(4) in text mode, by setting > > > hw=2Evga=2Etextmode=3D1 > > Attempting your suggestion returned: > > > > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw=2Evga=2Etextmode' >=20 > Sorry for being unclear - it's a loader tunable, so you need to set it > from the loader prompt or in /boot/loader=2Econf=2E No=2E *I'm* sorry=2E You were perfectly clear=2E It was late for me, and I wasn't very alert=2E Thank you *very* much for all your help! :) --Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list > https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg= " From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 21:30:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604C4272294 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vClK18LHz48yj; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 033LTq1L067804 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 033LTpGo067803; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:29:51 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Chris Cc: Ed Maste , freebsd-current Subject: Re: Is sc(4) no longer supported in GENERIC? Message-ID: <20200403212951.GA67772@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Reply-To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu References: <5ef1c042a43bc91aa11b0459673254b0@udns.ultimatedns.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5ef1c042a43bc91aa11b0459673254b0@udns.ultimatedns.net> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vClK18LHz48yj X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=washington.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.95.76.21) smtp.mailfrom=sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.11 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[washington.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.935,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[ip: (0.05), ipnet: 128.95.0.0/16(-0.24), asn: 73(-0.83), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.965,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:73, ipnet:128.95.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 21:30:31 -0000 On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 11:50:44AM -0700, Chris wrote: > > No. *I'm* sorry. You were perfectly clear. It was late for me, and I > wasn't very alert. Thank you *very* much for all your help! :) > For future reference, FreeBSD comes with some fairly decent documentation (see, e.g., vt(4)). -- Steve From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 23:44:58 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E914276A4B; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 23:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vGkb1VV0z42cm; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 23:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 033NioUN040735 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@BSDforge.com) X-Mailer: Cypht MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-current From: Chris Reply-To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com To: freebsd-x11 Subject: Undefined symbol "xf86DisableRandR" Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:44:56 -0700 Message-Id: <8169614999d99c249c58a7d4d23caa4c@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vGkb1VV0z42cm X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.85 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.943,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.905,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 23:44:59 -0000 I'm struggling with a build of 13/current on a box=2E Everything went pretty much as I might expect=2E But I'm stuck on Xorg; big changes=2E I read updating, and understood that building xorg-server with default options would DTRT=2E I I added the sysctl(8) line for the keyboard, installed my video driver (nvidia), and also followed advise in pkg-message=2E Starting Xorg resulted in: =2E=2E=2E ld-elf=2Eso=2E1: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv=2Eso: Undefined s= ymbol "xf86DisableRandR" So I searched the interweb for solution(s), and found a shell script in pr(1) 196678=2E Ran it, and was informed that the xf86-input-evdev driver was not installed=2E I installed it=2E But the results were the same=2E Thoughts? Solutions? Thank you for all your time, and consideration=2E --Chris P=2ES=2E source for ports is from head yesterday, base (install) is from 2 weeks ago=2E From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 4 09:31:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129F02A6E0D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vWkx6kpNz4Y8r; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [5.9.86.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kp) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43BFF28E6C; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: by venus.codepro.be (Postfix, authenticated sender kp) id EE43639210; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 11:30:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kristof Provost" To: FreeBSD-Current Cc: status-updates@freebsdfoundation.org Subject: Bridge project update (Week of March 30th) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 11:30:53 +0200 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.1r5671) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 09:31:07 -0000 Hi, A productive week! I’ve posted the main body of the patch for review: - https://reviews.freebsd.org/D24249 A preparatory patch. Mostly a mechanical substitution of LIST -> CK_LIST - https://reviews.freebsd.org/D24250 The main work. This changes the bridge data path to be mostly lockless (the only exception is when we have to add or update an rtnode. - https://reviews.freebsd.org/D24251 Another test case, for PR 216510. That bug was fixed more or less by accident during this work. I’ve also run performance testing with these patches, and I’m pretty happy with the results. The test shows an increase in throughput from 3.7Mpps to 18.6Mpps. The flame graphs also clearly show we’re no longer contending on the bridge mutex: - before: https://people.freebsd.org/~kp/if_bridge/unmodified.svg - after: https://people.freebsd.org/~kp/if_bridge/unicast.svg I’ll give D245250 another week or two for reviews. It’s a relatively small patch, considering, but it’s complex and important. I also intend to add another test case for a cleanup issue that’s since been fixed in D245250. 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Sat, 4 Apr 2020 17:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3a_CURRENT_crashes_if_loader=2econf_contains_=c2=abnet?= =?UTF-8?B?Lmlzci5kaXNwYXRjaD0iZGlyZWN0IsK7?= To: lev@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-Current , kaktus@FreeBSD.org References: <615764646.20200404231746@serebryakov.spb.ru> From: Yuri Pankov Message-ID: <5a2df17c-f2cf-e0b0-a321-676f5bc8e3da@fastmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 00:33:44 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <615764646.20200404231746@serebryakov.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vqn4438kz4DvT X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=fastmail.com header.s=fm2 header.b=eqe0JNtr; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=gY+pWo1Z; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=fastmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ypankov@fastmail.com designates 66.111.4.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ypankov@fastmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; 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It's likely r357614, reverting that commit helps. 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