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Thanks again in advance freebsd community! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 7 01:17:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03135343911 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 01:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2d.google.com (mail-io1-xd2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49fdls4WPsz4M3W for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 01:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2d.google.com with SMTP id q8so14715090iow.7 for ; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 18:17:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2CWA+lWS9FUuXp9uMERwYARPyT7R+uLQ8upPUZdAYrI=; b=YYD8u2fwbA74gxsr89bakjsM5nkh9/OvPzy2IYUWvbOEogClQ0XK1IDef0SwMLPZAz hNsiSUVKeHTw5jCD3GIfI3jIwGoXuoFB9Ex1nd2ektErDQW51KetpftuFVluDJFYhd93 uldp7P1qLtYzSgkWmhm4X5dvVi0wmVjRb/nFaftEsCrlBmZpKeDL6YYz4SshxK2VLDBn czF9R9rYKSdWl0CzAd2jUYh/nFSaxu8luobzC8igaqc7MQ+OM/rgB/iqQOprSW77A0Zh RhU/cO0CEcCXboR7FtEAVDcK40lVoMKklN7a0JmP8cgw3ca6w3PK/SPrdChK+5vk18/X Qv8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2CWA+lWS9FUuXp9uMERwYARPyT7R+uLQ8upPUZdAYrI=; b=Jas69hUnNIpabD/YnHyrdjZBFUB8/RqV17vaDZbUS2OQmL9OwooFvTG0dX+xqqDWeN ScUkulrE98yGJz1+5kTK2Jjad1/9LCwln/RNyAmDaB7a2lsYVQwpnuy+QiLv/Fdq1kiT brde3lOT+JcCayX2eTaV+FZsD+Qf4lJ5EsQniyT2i+HjHxwYO0pKykbNQ4J6jxcUrQ7V OEiL56qErNuktD/ckIX6oNtTXOR9xF3LrqLSxFdlu9pSestGDmMujV73Tt68LQ7ocECP ZsVRHad44c3E1vRLsv+3Sl4mw6M+mAHUILMD8qe7uuvjLEPR8cCRJmwnJReO+1i47/Ma 2KAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532E5Hl5a4FsS7wtPqbyJ+rm8QeTlISROqBxM1zSfhSb0c9nTsEg 0gKKZI1eHTaAIVXqFE2Cjr6k6nsTWL0RHJrnb0s7TVWC X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCKtQUfGUvTgEPs1l/viOUiyYpGTwyvZ4QRKP2wE8SAtvt+dHZWSOcFJ6bFnsPKuSk8ROyWeWTwcKukuDdlg8= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8e19:: with SMTP id e25mr15735281iod.36.1591492648425; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 18:17:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 21:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minimal skills To: Vincent DEFERT <20.100@defert.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49fdls4WPsz4M3W X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=YYD8u2fw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.56 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.01)[-1.009]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.010]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.539]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 01:17:31 -0000 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 5:06 AM Vincent DEFERT <20.100@defert.com> wrote: > My advice: NEVER, ever, learn Java, for if you do, you'll never want to > use another language and that could be a handicap in a new developer's > career. > I switched 10 years ago to Java after 15 years of C/C++ (and an odd assortment of other languages) and certainly agree with the idea of not wanting to use another language. Think of Java as the family SUV, not particularly fast and nimble when you need high performance or very low level work but what is it good for nothing is better (rock solid code that doesn't require the above). That being said you should learn it but learn it with other languages. > > On 06/06/2020 08:22, roberthuff@rcn.com wrote: > > > > I do agree that if one intends to do substantial programming in > > the current environment ... learning an object-oriented language is a > > really good idea. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org