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Message-Id: <22EFB7F1-F51A-4B07-8C9F-2B6189B410F0@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 14:33:09 -0700 To: FreeBSD Hackers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.100.2.1.4) References: <22EFB7F1-F51A-4B07-8C9F-2B6189B410F0.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.148:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.148:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SDBQJ3yTzz3P69 Is anyone familiar with what what they normally see on an idle ThreadRipper 1950X via the likes of (presumes kldload amdtemp had already been done): # sysctl dev.amdtemp | grep "[0-9]\.[0-9]C$" (Approximate ambient air temperature for the context would be a bonus.) 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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 21:42:03 -0700 References: <22EFB7F1-F51A-4B07-8C9F-2B6189B410F0@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD Hackers In-Reply-To: <22EFB7F1-F51A-4B07-8C9F-2B6189B410F0@yahoo.com> Message-Id: <4FA3FA86-38A6-43C6-8DBE-075C25248E93@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.100.2.1.4) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.47 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[98.137.69.32:server fail]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.32:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.32:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SDMxD40bcz4QKh On Oct 22, 2023, at 14:33, Mark Millard wrote: > Is anyone familiar with what what they normally see on an idle > ThreadRipper 1950X via the likes of (presumes kldload amdtemp > had already been done): > > # sysctl dev.amdtemp | grep "[0-9]\.[0-9]C$" > > (Approximate ambient air temperature for the context would be a > bonus.) > > I do not have a history of monitoring this, unfortunately. What I see for idle vs all hardware threads fully busy (buildworld -j32 's llvm lib* build activity): fully busy: about 95 degC reported idle: low 60's degC reported, say 62 degC: (varies more than the 95 figure does) # sysctl dev.amdtemp | grep "[0-9]\.[0-9]C$" dev.amdtemp.1.core0.sensor0: 62.1C dev.amdtemp.0.ccd0: 62.5C dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 62.1C AMD's published 1950X maximum operating Tjmax is 68 degC. The max reported figure's delta vs. documented maximum: about 95 degC - 68 degC = 27 degC Various notes on the web report that in order for the tCTL used for fan control to have about the same maximum across various machines, ThreadRipper 1950X's use: tCTL = operatingTjmax + 27 degC So, it looks like the dev.amdtemp reported values are tCTL-like for units, so biased toward fan control use. Idle shifted similarly down from reported: 62 degC - 27 degC = about 35 degC Overall: it seems I'm seeing a range for idle through fully-busy of about (operatingTjmax): 35 degC .. 68 degC but reported as more like (tCTL): 62 degC .. 95 degC === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Mon Oct 23 09:41:25 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SDVZX4zcKz4xqx4 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-yw1-x1132.google.com (mail-yw1-x1132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SDVZX2lbJz3GDx for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x1132.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5a7ac4c3666so30408337b3.3 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 02:41:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; t=1698054099; x=1698658899; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=L/cTPA5qKr60XllluTuatXlgWlVqj5l2yh8d+x+MKe0=; b=Wu+yO9DQtd+uGskrDXAgLkRcDH5hT7o105VK3+NoB6e17u5EzQvwYxeo0KFesE6WZM yIx6VU25yzCocIXRQt0iGm8Jw+OfsO/SCRdhsdJZw9QsMDOd40KlMyvldwuHJx0RPTTS XYrutvEK38cFYej0QNbLuqwBDtr+00XtmdyObvY4OSQyAicAtqNugZfHJrmTvl7yc7pI UKoVDE8prVpmy4D/UWhzMpHIAH6xAN4Q96wBlGQe/+A65cpd0qElLUfEfvb1JqAonCHo zkY0Gkvz3WyUe0TJGKaUnszsej6sL5SrJELOYeo4SPnbogMP6B5YIyVuO+P8B1+QNj8s qxew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698054099; x=1698658899; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=L/cTPA5qKr60XllluTuatXlgWlVqj5l2yh8d+x+MKe0=; b=NRH9xnUvbh5HqU1DQ78VfDxfiagwDHryOBlJZz6dQxtqOAx3Uf/fgJRS74OWCZOL1h pr1J5FPqyCiACYiL/h6i7Unvo2Smimi5JmQTVoCtkhoP4E+WQb1vd5cdGJEd8pzAz7PG mtRzzjdP08MHAD4SNelgrx/NrdnsbNlQ2MKnhK9GrVlODWtftqABCt1Q6JVdv10CSJEL ze0E0z6yiZGFCZttn7OvEhqJNBcwIgX6dD23iIeiu5U1/sFzmdDhVS+j4SZOySj+p5te 96YEnUXqaxpb7vi9HJ8uXnlYXnGW1disjULMg1HnuMyZagpFlhjbd0Jm0uCvVTWW8gMf SmYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyO+YxuQjnEc7b2LkHTXElMPf4msr+m3qQ+dKxT7/2miEs7qv8P VzSRQrWa9m7MxDWZSxbRFDNnQR058j05d+z2+b4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEl3oeUh5RSp8ieL5E7bML3cQVRN9CFzCJ8G+S3XrBBcPq/ETFUR79ySy6UljEZIopIK4ZAOg== X-Received: by 2002:a81:ab4e:0:b0:59b:cfe1:bcf1 with SMTP id d14-20020a81ab4e000000b0059bcfe1bcf1mr8722127ywk.44.1698054099045; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 02:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb1-f181.google.com (mail-yb1-f181.google.com. 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To: Mark Millard Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000055138b06085f071b" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SDVZX2lbJz3GDx --00000000000055138b06085f071b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey there Mark, is it possible to verify the measured temperatures against physical device with some sort of thermometer? You can almost boil a water with 95C o_O -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info --00000000000055138b06085f071b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey there Mark, is it possible to verify the measured tem= peratures against physical device with some sort of thermometer? You can al= most boil a water with 95C o_O

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I was wondering whether this would still be a relevant, > useful project? I had to use the wayback machine to get what little > information was available on the protocols (beyond the actual spec), and I > couldn't find any info about its adoption elsewhere. > We're still discussing possible projects, and if this particular project is > outdated, we can rule it out and find something else that piques our common > interest. But, as I said before, SCPS seemed particularly interesting. Hi Noah, SCPS does sound interesting, and I agree it's difficult to find recent information. Did you come across this older document? It has some interesting content. https://yazzy.org/docs/SCPS/SCPS_GATEWAY_v1.2.1.doc The SCPS transparent gateway will operate on either the FreeBSD or the Linux operating system. It was originally developed for the FreeBSD operating system. If you're still interested, maybe we could try to find this old implementation and explore how difficult it would be to get it working on a supported version of FreeBSD? Do you have more information about your project? How much time do you have? Are projects restricted to networking, or are any operating system projects possible? Joe