From nobody Mon Jan 16 14:43:03 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NwZWl6ht6z2sYVC for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (mx1.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:302:1100::1499]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NwZWl1c0Vz4Lh9 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 14:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ellael.org header.s=dkim header.b=hxFZn2xg; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trashcan@ellael.org designates 2001:41d0:302:1100::1499 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trashcan@ellael.org; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=ellael.org Received: from smtpclient.apple (p5b2e5fac.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.46.95.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4NwZWX17KczrZ7 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:43:04 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ellael.org; s=dkim; t=1673880184; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1q1Tvq8U21vAGM3x7XjOPCuuMlIgNCqRjqCJK4niqBo=; b=hxFZn2xgiDTbwBOkSzg+kGdXkbexXGU1Wdk1ZANBtsPuGT8JE7RWZ//YzoFi9xTvDSvb0I 3AjIvS4+aOMqUbuEZqaqMzfTVKsAiw3AS/jpEpQ1U1ptemK7NN/2LyTL7SkGK3zuBw63uG ZhvjtOBbcnhodeErtBQ8gXiYFkXYVbpDzwYLyszbAoXGChsJ+94MK5ktgX+rveCfcUB902 K84gNiN5Z3FStJ48/py2DQK8EXGoyhmHXwtBHVcGf5RdzX6oL9yPQIM9MdR1sjX+FzNTHK OlXjAW3eZtaqpmQ4b1bpOOVrjIJzs5roMCfMAeUMN7C/+cdekfu6mJS1xZ60LQ== From: Michael Grimm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Subject: blacklistd Message-Id: <1C901D61-CF0D-4C0B-9702-CD9FB6A4FB51@ellael.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:43:03 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ellael.org,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:41d0:302:1100::1499]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ellael.org:s=dkim]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ellael.org:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NwZWl1c0Vz4Lh9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N [FreeBSD 13.1-STABLE stable/13-n253468-16dd69d46577] Hi, I recently configured blacklistd in order to get sshd and postfix = submission monitored.=20 It works sofar, but I do have some questions/observations to share: 1) IPv6 addresses in /etc/blacklistd.conf According to the man page BLACKLISTD.CONF(5) I tried to get IPv6 = addresses whitelisted in section [remote] like: The first field denotes the location as an address, mask, and = port. The syntax for the location is: [
|][/][:] The address can be an IPv4 address in numeric format, an IPv6 = address in numeric format and enclosed by square brackets, or an interface = name. But this doesn't work as stated in the man page: # adr/mask:port type proto owner name nfail disable [remote] [1:2:3:4::8] * * * * * * =E2=80=94=E2=80=94> Jan 15 15:40:17 VM blacklistd[61944]: getnum: = /etc/blacklistd.conf, 15: Bad number for service [] [remote] [1:2:3:4::8]/64 * * * * * * =E2=80=94=E2=80=94> Jan 15 15:38:07 VM blacklistd[61748]: getnum: = /etc/blacklistd.conf, 15: Bad number for service [] [remote] [1:2:3:4::8]/64: * * * * * * =E2=80=94=E2=80=94> Jan 15 15:39:32 VM blacklistd[61825]: getnum: = /etc/blacklistd.conf, 15: Bad number for service [] [remote] [1:2:3:4::8]/64:* * * * * * * =E2=80=94=E2=80=94> ok IPv4 addresses work as advertised, but bracketed IPv6 addresses need an = additional '/:*' Two questions: 1) bug or feature or misunderstanding from my side? 2) Can a wildcard '*' be used in the meaning of 'any port'? 2) Whitelisting for a defined time period I do have dynamically assigned IPv4 addresses from my internet provider = that change every 24 hrs for the corresponding domains, e.g.: test.tld # adr/mask:port type proto owner name nfail disable [remote] # dynamically assigned IPs: test.tld:22 * * * * * 24h When I do "abuse" my server out of 'test.tld' I get whitelisted, good, = but the expected 24h time period for removal of the corresponding IPv4 = address doesn't work as expected: VM> blacklistctl dump -ar address/ma:port id nfail remaining time 1.2.3.4/32:22 2/* never Question: Can this be done anyhow? 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Today I upgraded to latest release of 13.1 and everything went smooth, as always. The problems appeared when I just started using the machine. Is a desktop with cwm as window manager and I also use picom. Until now everything was fine, but now after just opening some terminals the machine freezes and I have to do a hard reboot. When I login I just see how the RAM (4GB total) disappears. I tried XFCE and the the system is usable again. So I narrowed down to picom. (There is a picom.core dump file, but I do not know if it is of use). This is all the errors I could find. So in "cwm.log" I have this xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or KillClient on X server ":0" xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or KillClient on X server ":0" And this is from dmesg pid 19272 (picom), jid 0, uid 1000: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 71681 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0, was killed: failed to reclaim memory pid 55696 (picom), jid 0, uid 1000: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) I also attach the full dmesg and also picom.conf if it any use (although nothing change from prior version). Thank you for your help. I really need my machine back. 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  Hi, everyone. I=92m learning AMD64 assembly = language. But seems I cannot find much information about FreeBSD kernel int= erface, does it follows the same calling convention as described in System V AMD64 ABI? Or it is like Linux kernel calling con= vention, uses R10 instead of RCX to pass parameters?

 

Dani= el

--_000_TYWP286MB26677DF496704F87B91B5D19B8C49TYWP286MB2667JPNP_-- From nobody Thu Jan 19 15:11:23 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NyR1733Xnz2t8hg for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x335.google.com (mail-ot1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NyR170w3Wz3hnk for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ot1-x335.google.com with SMTP id a1-20020a056830008100b006864df3b1f8so1372261oto.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:11:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=U9xnlwcVowiYPoLWFGS8sv/9ISVQA/vxP/zILdpt2lQ=; b=efbRK4Q2B5bo5QM5KB2Um3pmjKDjlrL5OI2IIFIX5ATDPyOxoIaC9R1/yX2zNNBpZJ yOGuxmdWLbN0CF2wQ9CRcR2oRvAGJZy4boa5KUhg1UZJuI8woTiSoPAszuJoshJ5W2n4 yeomi0irpaPLweRciU3gNURhqCpDIfGSU2oH17no44hFFZ/+kNqERHN+kdQ7fNpaT5FO V8IWYgBlvgCkYhkFU3iACCYArJvGCwmEX9tw313bGf+L2+pdkTtlCtX5sU0FPD/dq994 WKHYmPNPoiUaIZ4auNyuXy3nnIrELaRM2uYvfhj0wKD3wcR+YCi+jLA0amQIeDk1gdth pOew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=U9xnlwcVowiYPoLWFGS8sv/9ISVQA/vxP/zILdpt2lQ=; b=b7/7EAU6E768Plm5cj9canyZ8AM6gNoZCfDX/dSrW6qHPDWV7ZU3+DsKuoqGNz7gXH TcrhWplcYZLXZewN23cX/pdIxV0Ast6/Rh//4Lom03+8dXJLahxFQE9xKOtP26LsTvaX GF9LSDuQTksVsK4Rz81PeRZf+WGUGNJXcV2JZhlr58RHvw1AF6MdwmC2OpkkZk7XA7oH 96Q7QVl2Jo7V508MQ8L2CG/K1niSk98CmrCKCdicVi0nFozX2bgOaZr0OlpeKsEODWVe w2yad+4eIgRuYrRgondaNcv04IxVUAPyRx6y5lWblMF5WgMu2jSvuNV4xUoz3JRu+7QU T9ew== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpryXYXqc5l6W6mmyHEFv9mSPhXgbEwTP1axYlzIczHExLJe30P 6nmUoSnTWAfwMF5dCn5y5vYt6MhHQKIrAj+ekw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXu+becqcGFTqTy4TpTkFaHABDWGHur15kd1TgJrNWyJkHt82PYhtPickuYEkrMCtgkGTrUWDrz+fCDMhl4jMNc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1211:b0:684:9eae:c451 with SMTP id r17-20020a056830121100b006849eaec451mr654093otp.267.1674141096662; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:11:36 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Paul Procacci Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:11:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD AMD64 kernel calling convention To: Daniel Cervus Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005ee3c305f29f5943" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NyR170w3Wz3hnk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000005ee3c305f29f5943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's the same as Linux. rdi, rsi, rdx, r10, r8, r9 in that order. rcx and r11 destroy'd immediately upon syscall invocation. Thanks, Paul Procacci On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:08 PM Daniel Cervus wrote: > Hi, everyone. I=E2=80=99m learning AMD64 assembly language. But seems I= cannot > find much information about FreeBSD kernel interface, does it follows the > same calling convention as described in System V AMD64 ABI? Or it is like > Linux kernel calling convention, uses R10 instead of RCX to pass paramete= rs? > > > > Daniel > --=20 __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --0000000000005ee3c305f29f5943 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's the same as Linux.

rdi, rs= i, rdx, r10, r8, r9=C2=A0 in that order.=C2=A0 rcx and r11 destroy'd im= mediately upon syscall invocation.

Thanks,
Paul Procacci

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:08 PM Daniel Cervu= s <DanieltheDeer@outlook.co= m> wrote:

=C2=A0 Hi, everyone. I=E2=80=99m learning AMD64 assem= bly language. But seems I cannot find much information about FreeBSD kernel= interface, does it follows the same calling convention as described in System V AMD64 ABI? Or it is like Linux kernel calling con= vention, uses R10 instead of RCX to pass parameters?

=C2=A0

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Don't have a working printer right now (mechanical issues) and thus can not print, fill out, sign and then rescan to send back. Is there anything in the ports collection (or anywhere else) that can handle both filling out the form and superimposing a scanned copy of my signature onto it? For the last part I guess I can use GIMP but none of the PDF readers in the ports collection I have tried can handle both filling out and saving PDF forms. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From nobody Thu Jan 19 23:54:12 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NyfcC66Mjz2t3d9 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from verm@darkbeer.org) Received: from mx.coeval.ca (mx.coeval.ca [184.75.211.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NyfcC0HZ7z3Gqs for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from verm@darkbeer.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=darkbeer.org header.s=mail header.b=DfNQHrzQ; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of verm@darkbeer.org designates 184.75.211.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=verm@darkbeer.org; dmarc=none Received: from mx.darkbeer.org (unknown [192.168.211.20]) by mx.coeval.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724FB43605C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=darkbeer.org; s=mail; t=1674172452; bh=zg8JxqbPvNyBFj6kqX8Z9anM+IZfha67FpLYS69lriQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=DfNQHrzQcpqTHSo51v5MRKZacm3f1iV9P8w2981WR1FQ1eaAVQublZSnvMfRF6PtZ oqdo0r6jxBho1qbh7Oa75ZbyDk711Jk79RjYqphJFvWDnyN89KYdKKE5r1vAXluR43 epG/kmzrBjZksGXG27rgBK9Z/3fuQnEKVvK6KmDs= Received: by mx.darkbeer.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6CB98470C17; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:54:12 +0000 From: Amar Takhar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PDF forms Message-ID: <20230119235412.GA3417@darkbeer.org> References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:184.75.211.21]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[darkbeer.org:s=mail]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[darkbeer.org:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[darkbeer.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:32489, ipnet:184.75.211.0/24, country:CA]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NyfcC0HZ7z3Gqs X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2023-01-19 18:47 -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > A client of ours sent us an IRS (W-9) form as a PDF form. Don't have > a working printer right now (mechanical issues) and thus can not > print, fill out, sign and then rescan to send back. > > Is there anything in the ports collection (or anywhere else) that can > handle both filling out the form and superimposing a scanned copy of > my signature onto it? xournal from ports does this. You can fill in the PDF and it will save a separate file that has your text. You'll need to keep the original PDF around with it. Amar. 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Don't have > a working printer right now (mechanical issues) and thus can not > print, fill out, sign and then rescan to send back. > > Is there anything in the ports collection (or anywhere else) that can > handle both filling out the form and superimposing a scanned copy of > my signature onto it? > > For the last part I guess I can use GIMP but none of the PDF readers > in the ports collection I have tried can handle both filling out and > saving PDF forms. I've used GIMP for this many times. 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Problem solved: 1. Firefox's (108.x atleast) default PDF reader allows you to fill PDF forms out and print them 2. Print it as a PDF file (one of the options) 3. Open it in GIMP and copy in signature 4. Export as PDF -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From nobody Fri Jan 20 08:25:09 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Nysxj3j9yz2st7v for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 08:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Nysxh3rFYz4QqR for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 08:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de has no SPF policy when checking 80.67.29.24) smtp.mailfrom=markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de; dmarc=none Received: from [134.119.228.2] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pImib-0002aP-V1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:25:50 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:25:09 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: PDF forms In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail Message-ID: <6e7cad74d6b52dd4b4a31341a7fcf9f2@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.19 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[80.67.29.24:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34011, ipnet:80.67.16.0/20, country:DE]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mhoenicka.de]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Nysxh3rFYz4QqR X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2023-01-20 06:48, Aryeh Friedman was heard to say: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 6:47 PM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: >> Is there anything in the ports collection (or anywhere else) that can >> handle both filling out the form and superimposing a scanned copy of >> my signature on to it? > > Problem solved: > 1. Firefox's (108.x atleast) default PDF reader allows you to fill PDF > forms out and print them > 2. Print it as a PDF file (one of the options) > 3. Open it in GIMP and copy in signature > 4. Export as PDF This one's a keeper. Will come in handy. Thanks for sharing. 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Subject: Building a VM image from a NonBSD-Host of a self compiled source Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 23628289:user:proton List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="------8d8864e20022875ac9ab47a31870fe0d2cdbc344d25f01eac5ac66dc49f89eeb"; charset=utf-8 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.82 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; MIME_BASE64_TEXT_BOGUS(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.985]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.940]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.com,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.com:s=protonmail3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.43.0/24:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,multipart/alternative,text/plain,multipart/related]; MIME_BASE64_TEXT(0.10)[]; MIME_UNKNOWN(0.10)[application/pgp-keys]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[protonmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.com:+]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:+,4:+,5:~,6:~,7:~,8:~]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[protonmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[185.70.43.22:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NywzC16CFz3G19 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------8d8864e20022875ac9ab47a31870fe0d2cdbc344d25f01eac5ac66dc49f89eeb Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------bfb95b4c4cf6bb1b961a0d9bb5b124fe -----------------------bfb95b4c4cf6bb1b961a0d9bb5b124fe Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary=---------------------d101287d494ac39219246b52b731f431 -----------------------d101287d494ac39219246b52b731f431 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Hello! (If this would have been more suitable for the freebsd-arm mailing = list, I'm sorry) I would like to dig into the world of FreeBSD, but unfortunately I'm bound= to a Macbook M1 device. So I will have to use virtual machines for using and working on FreeBSD. First of all I tried if running the ARM64 port of FreeBSD inside a VM work= s on M1. Using this https://gist.github.com/ctsrc/a1f57933a2cde9abc0f07be12889f97f = it was only a matter of minute to get it running. My next step was to build BSD from source, which turned out to be a little= challenge but still solvable. (https://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingOnNonFreeBSD). Now I have buildworld and buildkernel in a freebsd/obj but no clue how to = actually create a VM image from that. Is it even possible to create a image which I can just startup in qemu lik= e the one I downloaded in the first gist? I looked at multiple websites but the only promising ones was this https:/= /adventurist.me/posts/0283 Since I replaced make with ./tools/build/make.py in the build process I tr= ied replacing it here to, where it just said, that bmake isn't capable of = doing vm-release/install or whatever. Afterwards I found this slide (https://papers.freebsd.org/2019/COSCUP/lwhs= u-getting-started.files/Getting%20started%20with%20FreeBSD%20development.p= df) and on side 17 it is stated to use the makefile again and use installworld= , distribution installkernel now instead of build*. I ran` ` `env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/Users/lockna/freebsd/obj time ../tools/build/make= .py -j4 installworld TARGET=3Darm64 TARGET_ARCH=3Daarch64 DESTDIR=3D/Users= /lockna/freebsd/destdir` from within the src/release directory. But essentially I get this error `bmake[2]: "/Users/lockna/freebsd/src/Makefile.inc1" line 574: warning: "M= AKEFLAGS=3D CPUTYPE=3Ddummy /Users/lockna/freebsd/obj/bmake-install/bin/bm= ake -f /dev/null -m /Users/lockna/freebsd/src/share/mk MK_AUTO_OBJ=3Dno -V= CPUTYPE" exited on a signal bmake[2]: "/Users/lockna/freebsd/src/Makefile= .inc1" line 577: CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=3D.` I tried setting the CPUTYPE to native, aarch64, arm64 (as env variable) or= setting it in the Makefile using `?=3D.` When I set it using env variable it changed accordingly in the command out= put but when setting it in the Makefile which was used it still was dummy. So I decided to ask here how someone would create a vm image from self com= piled sources on a non bsd host. 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For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314. Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? Thanks, Stavros --0000000000009058e805f2b8c9e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I just installed 13.1 on= a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, although nothing is runnin= g and the CPU is 100% free.

`ps aux` and `top` don= 't show anything of interest either.

For what&= #39;s worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314.

Any ideas/comma= nds that will help me troubleshoot this further?

T= hanks,
Stavros
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What flags have you included with top?

=
By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes.= =C2=A0 `top -SH`=C2=A0 is useful in this respect and others flags may be us= eful as well.

systat -vmstat

^^= =C2=A0 Another command that I like.=C2=A0 Also may give you insight.
<= div>
Thanks,
Paul Procacci

On Fri, Jan 20,= 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc> wrote:
Hi,

I just ins= talled 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, although not= hing is running and the CPU is 100% free.

`ps aux`= and `top` don't show anything of interest either.

=
For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314.

Any ideas/comma= nds that will help me troubleshoot this further?

T= hanks,
Stavros


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Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from it 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out in out Tot Share Tot Share Free count Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt Interrupts Proc: cow 34 total r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod uart0 4 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 cpu0:timer %ozfod 9 cpu1:timer 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 cpu2:timer | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 cpu3:timer totfr 4 xhci0 128 229 dtbuf react ahci0 129 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak nvme0:admi Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs nvme0:io0 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn nvme0:io1 355M wire nvme0:io2 Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act nvme0:io3 KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact igb0:rxq0 tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund igb0:rxq1 MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 igb0:rxq2 %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf igb0:rxq3 igb0:aq And the output of `top -SH` for reference: last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 up 0+00:08:13 15:57:54 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% idle{idle: cpu2} 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% idle{idle: cpu3} 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% idle{idle: cpu0} 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% idle{idle: cpu1} 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% kernel{if_config_tqg_0} 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% intr{swi4: clock (0)} 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% rand_harvestq 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% pagedaemon{dom0} 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% sendmail 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% usb{usbus0} 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (2)} 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% intr{irq128: xhci0} 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% bufdaemon{/ worker} 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (1)} 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% kernel{if_io_tqg_2} 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% syncer 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (3)} 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% bufdaemon{bufdaemon} 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} Thanks, Stavros On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > What flags have you included with top? > > By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top -SH` is > useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. > > systat -vmstat > > ^^ Another command that I like. 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Is any way to make sound going to both jacks? Below is the sound device information: hdaa0: ahcich6: AHCI reset: device found ahcich7: hdaa0: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color misc hdaa0: 17 40370040 4 0 CD None Analog 0x00 Unknown 0 hdaa0: 18 4017c040 4 0 Speaker None Analog 0x00 Res.C 0 hdaa0: 20 01014010 1 0 Line-out Jack 1/8 Rear Green 0 hdaa0: 21 01011012 1 2 Line-out Jack 1/8 Rear Black 0 hdaa0: 22 01016011 1 1 Line-out Jack 1/8 Rear Orange 0 hdaa0: 23 40170000 0 0 Speaker None Analog 0x00 Unknown 0 hdaa0: 24 01a19030 3 0 Mic Jack 1/8 Rear Pink 0 hdaa0: 25 02a19040 4 0 Mic Jack 1/8 Front Pink 0 hdaa0: 26 0181303f 3 15 Line-in Jack 1/8 Rear Blue 0 hdaa0: 27 02214020 2 0 Headphones Jack 1/8 Front Green 0 hdaa0: 28 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: 29 4025d601 0 1 Headphones None Optical 0x00 Res.D 6 hdaa0: 30 01456150 5 0 SPDIF-out Jack Optical Rear Orange 1 hdaa0: 31 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: Patching widget caps nid=29 0x00400400 -> 0x00700400 hdaa0: Patched pins configuration: hdaa0: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color misc hdaa0: 17 40370040 4 0 CD None Analog 0x00 Unknown 0 DISA hdaa0: 18 4017c040 4 0 Speaker None Analog 0x00 Res.C 0 DISA hdaa0: 20 01014010 1 0 Line-out Jack 1/8 Rear Green 0 hdaa0: 21 01011012 1 2 Line-out Jack 1/8 Rear Black 0 hdaa0: 22 01016011 1 1 Line-out Jack 1/8 Rear Orange 0 hdaa0: 23 40170000 0 0 Speaker None Analog 0x00 Unknown 0 DISA hdaa0: 24 01a19030 3 0 Mic Jack 1/8 Rear Pink 0 hdaa0: 25 02a19040 4 0 Mic Jack 1/8 Front Pink 0 hdaa0: 26 0181303f 3 15 Line-in Jack 1/8 Rear Blue 0 hdaa0: 27 02214020 2 0 Headphones Jack 1/8 Front Green 0 hdaa0: 28 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 30 01456150 5 0 SPDIF-out Jack Optical Rear Orange 1 hdaa0: 31 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 5 associations found: hdaa0: Association 0 (1) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=20 seq=0 hdaa0: Pin nid=22 seq=1 hdaa0: Pin nid=21 seq=2 hdaa0: Association 1 (2) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=27 seq=0 hdaa0: Association 2 (3) in: hdaa0: Pin nid=24 seq=0 hdaa0: Pin nid=26 seq=15 hdaa0: Association 3 (4) in: hdaa0: Pin nid=25 seq=0 hdaa0: Association 4 (5) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=30 seq=0 hdaa0: Tracing association 0 (1) hdaa0: Pin 20 traced to DAC 2 hdaa0: Pin 22 traced to DAC 4 hdaa0: Pin 21 traced to DAC 3 hdaa0: Association 0 (1) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 1 (2) hdaa0: Pin 27 traced to DAC 5 hdaa0: Association 1 (2) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 2 (3) hdaa0: Unable to trace pin 24 to ADC 7, undo traces hdaa0: Pin 24 traced to ADC 8 hdaa0: Pin 26 traced to ADC 8 hdaa0: Association 2 (3) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 3 (4) hdaa0: Unable to trace pin 25 to ADC 7, undo traces hdaa0: Pin 25 traced to ADC 9 hdaa0: Association 3 (4) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 4 (5) hdaa0: Pin 30 traced to DAC 6 hdaa0: Association 4 (5) trace succeeded hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 0 (1) hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 1 (2) hdaa0: Looking for additional ADC for association 2 (3) hdaa0: Looking for additional ADC for association 3 (4) hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 4 (5) hdaa0: Tracing input monitor hdaa0: Tracing nid 11 to out hdaa0: nid 11 is input monitor hdaa0: Tracing nid 34 to out hdaa0: Tracing nid 35 to out hdaa0: Tracing other input monitors hdaa0: Tracing nid 24 to out hdaa0: Tracing nid 25 to out hdaa0: Tracing nid 26 to out hdaa0: Tracing beeper hdaa0: ahcich7: Pin sense: nid=20 sense=0x80000000 (connected) hdaa0: SATA offline status=00000004 hdaa0: FG config/quirks: forcestereo ivref50 ivref80 ivref100 ivref pcm0: at nid 20,22,21 and 24,26 on hdaa0 pcm1: at nid 27 and 25 on hdaa0 pcm2: at nid 30 on hdaa0 --000000000000abd03805f2bae49b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tried to search how to do this but did not get useful= information,

The default setting hw.snd.default_u= nit=3D0 makes sound going to the back jack.
sysctl -w hw.snd.defa= ult_unit=3D1 makes sound going to the front jack.

= Is any way to make sound going to both jacks?

Belo= w is the sound device information:

hdaa0: ahcich6:= AHCI reset: device found
ahcich7: hdaa0: nid =C2=A0 0x =C2=A0 =C2=A0as = seq device =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 conn =C2=A0jack =C2=A0 =C2=A0loc =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0color =C2=A0 misc
hdaa0: 17 40370040 4 =C2=A00 =C2=A0CD= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0None =C2=A0Analog =C2=A00x00 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unknown 0
hdaa0: 18 4017c040 4 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Speaker = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 None =C2=A0Analog =C2=A00x00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Res.= C =C2=A0 0
hdaa0: 20 01014010 1 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Line-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Green =C2=A0 0hdaa0: 21 01011012 1 =C2=A02 =C2=A0Line-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jack =C2= =A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black =C2=A0 0
hdaa0: 22 = 01016011 1 =C2=A01 =C2=A0Line-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Orange =C2=A00
hdaa0: 23 40170000 0 = =C2=A00 =C2=A0Speaker =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 None =C2=A0Analog =C2=A00x00 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unknown 0
hdaa0: 24 01a19030 3 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Mic =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pink =C2=A0 =C2=A00
hdaa0: 25 02a19040 4 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Mic= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Front =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pink =C2=A0 =C2=A00
hdaa0: 26 0181303f 3 =C2=A015 Line-= in =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Blue =C2=A0 =C2=A00
hdaa0: 27 02214020 2 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Headphones = =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Front =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Green = =C2=A0 0
hdaa0: 28 411111f0 15 0 =C2=A0Speaker =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 None= =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black =C2=A0 1
hdaa0:= 29 4025d601 0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0Headphones =C2=A0 =C2=A0None =C2=A0Optical 0x0= 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Res.D =C2=A0 6
hdaa0: 30 01456150 5 =C2=A00 =C2= =A0SPDIF-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A0Optical Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ora= nge =C2=A01
hdaa0: 31 411111f0 15 0 =C2=A0Speaker =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 N= one =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black =C2=A0 1
hda= a0: Patching widget caps nid=3D29 0x00400400 -> 0x00700400
hdaa0: Pat= ched pins configuration:
hdaa0: nid =C2=A0 0x =C2=A0 =C2=A0as seq device= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 conn =C2=A0jack =C2=A0 =C2=A0loc =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0color =C2=A0 misc
hdaa0: 17 40370040 4 =C2=A00 =C2=A0CD =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0None =C2=A0Analog =C2=A00x00 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Unknown 0 DISA
hdaa0: 18 4017c040 4 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Speaker =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 None =C2=A0Analog =C2=A00x00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Res.C = =C2=A0 0 DISA
hdaa0: 20 01014010 1 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Line-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Green =C2=A0 0=
hdaa0: 21 01011012 1 =C2=A02 =C2=A0Line-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jack = =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black =C2=A0 0
hdaa0: = 22 01016011 1 =C2=A01 =C2=A0Line-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Orange =C2=A00
hdaa0: 23 40170000 0= =C2=A00 =C2=A0Speaker =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 None =C2=A0Analog =C2=A00x00 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unknown 0 DISA
hdaa0: 24 01a19030 3 =C2=A00 =C2=A0M= ic =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pink =C2=A0 =C2=A00
hdaa0: 25 02a19040 4 =C2=A00 =C2= =A0Mic =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Fron= t =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pink =C2=A0 =C2=A00
hdaa0: 26 0181303f 3 =C2=A015 = Line-in =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Blue =C2=A0 =C2=A00
hdaa0: 27 02214020 2 =C2=A00 =C2=A0Headph= ones =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jack =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Front =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Gr= een =C2=A0 0
hdaa0: 28 411111f0 15 0 =C2=A0Speaker =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = None =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black =C2=A0 1 DISA<= br>hdaa0: 30 01456150 5 =C2=A00 =C2=A0SPDIF-out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jack =C2=A0Op= tical Rear =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Orange =C2=A01
hdaa0: 31 411111f0 15 0 = =C2=A0Speaker =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 None =C2=A01/8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rear =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black =C2=A0 1 DISA
hdaa0: 5 associations found:
hdaa0= : Association 0 (1) out:
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid=3D20 seq=3D0
hdaa0: =C2= =A0Pin nid=3D22 seq=3D1
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid=3D21 seq=3D2
hdaa0: Asso= ciation 1 (2) out:
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid=3D27 seq=3D0
hdaa0: Associati= on 2 (3) in:
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid=3D24 seq=3D0
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid= =3D26 seq=3D15
hdaa0: Association 3 (4) in:
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid=3D25= seq=3D0
hdaa0: Association 4 (5) out:
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin nid=3D30 seq= =3D0
hdaa0: Tracing association 0 (1)
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 20 traced to D= AC 2
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 22 traced to DAC 4
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 21 traced t= o DAC 3
hdaa0: Association 0 (1) trace succeeded
hdaa0: Tracing assoc= iation 1 (2)
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 27 traced to DAC 5
hdaa0: Association 1= (2) trace succeeded
hdaa0: Tracing association 2 (3)
hdaa0: =C2=A0Un= able to trace pin 24 to ADC 7, undo traces
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 24 traced to= ADC 8
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 26 traced to ADC 8
hdaa0: Association 2 (3) t= race succeeded
hdaa0: Tracing association 3 (4)
hdaa0: =C2=A0Unable t= o trace pin 25 to ADC 7, undo traces
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 25 traced to ADC 9=
hdaa0: Association 3 (4) trace succeeded
hdaa0: Tracing association = 4 (5)
hdaa0: =C2=A0Pin 30 traced to DAC 6
hdaa0: Association 4 (5) tr= ace succeeded
hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 0 (1)hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 1 (2)
hdaa0: Looking = for additional ADC for association 2 (3)
hdaa0: Looking for additional A= DC for association 3 (4)
hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for associati= on 4 (5)
hdaa0: Tracing input monitor
hdaa0: =C2=A0Tracing nid 11 to = out
hdaa0: =C2=A0nid 11 is input monitor
hdaa0: =C2=A0Tracing nid 34 = to out
hdaa0: =C2=A0Tracing nid 35 to out
hdaa0: Tracing other input = monitors
hdaa0: =C2=A0Tracing nid 24 to out
hdaa0: =C2=A0Tracing nid = 25 to out
hdaa0: =C2=A0Tracing nid 26 to out
hdaa0: Tracing beeperhdaa0: ahcich7: Pin sense: nid=3D20 sense=3D0x80000000 (connected)
hdaa= 0: SATA offline status=3D00000004
hdaa0: FG config/quirks: forcestereo i= vref50 ivref80 ivref100 ivref
pcm0: <Realtek ALC897 (Rear Analog 5.1/= 2.0)> at nid 20,22,21 and 24,26 on hdaa0
pcm1: <Realtek ALC897 (Fr= ont Analog)> at nid 27 and 25 on hdaa0
pcm2: <Realtek ALC897 (Rear= Digital)> at nid 30 on hdaa0

--000000000000abd03805f2bae49b-- From nobody Sat Jan 21 00:18:52 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NzH6K4zsmz2t0f7 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 00:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa1-x31.google.com (mail-oa1-x31.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NzH6K4MK8z411F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 00:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-oa1-x31.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-12c8312131fso8113868fac.4 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 16:19:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=j4xp/bEasFrdwVcu8hBBGpvi4s9M8POpUyOcw7zHf10=; b=iCOkjnVNid4/usKJeBIDjk5blH2UkjGt0k+ZmotQWIL5gTb2Dvmxlwu0ZlR8yHw139 iGmvYvykP7Cw6+Uq9+aFpIrsbT8CZPCizC9H0ypoUC+iQENW8EgPzMVUVwE8qgJlBXf+ aEwWGi1fu3LzNrCqs0rD+xQn87w3sd1sz5CuEGk9P+9PF9rPvKwJyQeDNNy53omEG1nz q+DcFmqbDuTBDROtJ+fde9XTgLOzq2kLKHGNz+bkR3ZWB8tPOOeGCWqwsSitX17jpj9c FSIPqfq7EG00p8zORhVZZq3IiTYDQFc0pr8HGg7NMtL5iDxaowXFlY24xqbkjl+aUYVQ /Xbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=j4xp/bEasFrdwVcu8hBBGpvi4s9M8POpUyOcw7zHf10=; b=jv+v05DjuUWad/rmPN0TtI7AbW8zWLiGr9zdlqV3XeW3qI8SKe9g1ZLP2oI+WngQrv lKvu8YmEQGfC79ZGwkFhDldSp/P4DBuA2EwkO8I8YOpFmdqqESPObxaZHQATFzFhVC/z 1a/RekKaSCOno2kyYBWQKrVFUTgurXGK5MrQfOym8RLP2wM0Mme58z8DPDG6LfLNzKer RlL17w6ykczGWUhF549U6ZgFYuRVm0lZezsT1FCvGb63B9OLXwxgsnHsrQy5thCfudlY fwB7OY8mLNWZ2T7T7cd2y0KTWZKvKGGnAsWZS8Rd/U4R/KivY2W2IFpy65hUsstt9vcc P4FQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2koZemH+qhp+KAsRDssgCPvwpbuBaEf83lrtgFaSRCOfxfflhsQ5 dDhKs4soAFtIOp9vFm6NdUdQVrN4zyiiSf5xd9fqaNT1BGoO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtAlLURXJOVETBT4UkotANxCY8fMS3JcPVW5+uFQhBkwMHaGmvBTySCcbt+bB4MAzSyf6eDFpxxG5ugC6L+kkc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:4b87:b0:150:af87:cfbb with SMTP id lx7-20020a0568704b8700b00150af87cfbbmr1002743oab.148.1674260344770; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 16:19:04 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Paul Procacci Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 19:18:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system To: Stavros Filargyropoulos Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001c957605f2bb1de3" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NzH6K4MK8z411F X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2001:4860:4864::/48, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000001c957605f2bb1de3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Stavros, Load averages by themselves mean very little. It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about. Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over time.[1] Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no problem here at all. Thanks, Paul Procacci [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920 On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos wrote: > Thanks Paul. > > Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. > > This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from it > > 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 > Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER SWAP > PAGER > Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out in > out > Tot Share Tot Share Free count > Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages > All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt Interrupts > Proc: cow 34 total > r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod > uart0 4 > 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 > cpu0:timer > %ozfod 9 > cpu1:timer > 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 > cpu2:timer > | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 > cpu3:timer > totfr 4 > xhci0 128 > 229 dtbuf react > ahci0 129 > Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak > nvme0:admi > Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs > nvme0:io0 > 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn > nvme0:io1 > 355M wire > nvme0:io2 > Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act > nvme0:io3 > KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact > igb0:rxq0 > tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund > igb0:rxq1 > MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 > igb0:rxq2 > %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf > igb0:rxq3 > > igb0:aq > > And the output of `top -SH` for reference: > > last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 > > up 0+00:08:13 > 15:57:54 > 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting > CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle > Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free > Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% > idle{idle: cpu2} > 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% > idle{idle: cpu3} > 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% > idle{idle: cpu0} > 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% > idle{idle: cpu1} > 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% > kernel{if_config_tqg_0} > 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top > 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux > 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% > intr{swi4: clock (0)} > 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% > rand_harvestq > 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% > pagedaemon{dom0} > 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd > 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% sendmail > 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% > usb{usbus0} > 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% > intr{swi4: clock (2)} > 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% > intr{irq128: xhci0} > 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% > bufdaemon{/ worker} > 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% > intr{swi4: clock (1)} > 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% > kernel{if_io_tqg_2} > 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% > bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} > 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% syncer > 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% > intr{swi4: clock (3)} > 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% > bufdaemon{bufdaemon} > 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% > bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} > > Thanks, > Stavros > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > >> What flags have you included with top? >> >> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top -SH` >> is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. >> >> systat -vmstat >> >> ^^ Another command that I like. Also may give you insight. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul Procacci >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, >>> although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free. >>> >>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either. >>> >>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the >>> CPU a Xeon 2314. >>> >>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stavros >>> >> >> >> -- >> __________________ >> >> :(){ :|:& };: >> > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --0000000000001c957605f2bb1de3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+PGRpdj48ZGl2PlN0YXZyb3MsPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+TG9h ZCBhdmVyYWdlcyBieSB0aGVtc2VsdmVzIG1lYW4gdmVyeSBsaXR0bGUuPGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+ SXQmIzM5O3Mgbm90IGEgZmlndXJlIG9mIGNwdSB1c2FnZSBpZiB0aGF0JiMzOTtzIHdoYXQgeW91 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action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000007b9ee905f2bb3f62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a refresh of 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I see. This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a load of less than 0.20? I'm pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs. Thanks for taking a look anyway. On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > Stavros, > > Load averages by themselves mean very little. > It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about. > > Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at > least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over > time.[1] > > Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no > problem here at all. > > Thanks, > Paul Procacci > > [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920 > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos > wrote: > >> Thanks Paul. >> >> Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. >> >> This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from it >> >> 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 >> Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER SWAP >> PAGER >> Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out in >> out >> Tot Share Tot Share Free count >> Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages >> All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt >> Interrupts >> Proc: cow 34 >> total >> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod >> uart0 4 >> 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 >> cpu0:timer >> %ozfod 9 >> cpu1:timer >> 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 >> cpu2:timer >> | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 >> cpu3:timer >> totfr 4 >> xhci0 128 >> 229 dtbuf react >> ahci0 129 >> Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak >> nvme0:admi >> Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs >> nvme0:io0 >> 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn >> nvme0:io1 >> 355M wire >> nvme0:io2 >> Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act >> nvme0:io3 >> KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact >> igb0:rxq0 >> tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund >> igb0:rxq1 >> MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 >> igb0:rxq2 >> %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf >> igb0:rxq3 >> >> igb0:aq >> >> And the output of `top -SH` for reference: >> >> last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 >> >> up >> 0+00:08:13 15:57:54 >> 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting >> CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle >> Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free >> Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free >> >> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND >> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% >> idle{idle: cpu2} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% >> idle{idle: cpu3} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% >> idle{idle: cpu0} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% >> idle{idle: cpu1} >> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% >> kernel{if_config_tqg_0} >> 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top >> 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux >> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% >> intr{swi4: clock (0)} >> 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% >> rand_harvestq >> 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% >> pagedaemon{dom0} >> 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd >> 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% >> sendmail >> 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% >> usb{usbus0} >> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >> intr{swi4: clock (2)} >> 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >> intr{irq128: xhci0} >> 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% >> bufdaemon{/ worker} >> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% >> intr{swi4: clock (1)} >> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% >> kernel{if_io_tqg_2} >> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% >> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} >> 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% syncer >> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% >> intr{swi4: clock (3)} >> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% >> bufdaemon{bufdaemon} >> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% >> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} >> >> Thanks, >> Stavros >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci >> wrote: >> >>> What flags have you included with top? >>> >>> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top -SH` >>> is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. >>> >>> systat -vmstat >>> >>> ^^ Another command that I like. Also may give you insight. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Paul Procacci >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all >>>> times, although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free. >>>> >>>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either. >>>> >>>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the >>>> CPU a Xeon 2314. >>>> >>>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Stavros >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> __________________ >>> >>> :(){ :|:& };: >>> >> > > -- > __________________ > > :(){ :|:& };: > --0000000000007b9ee905f2bb3f62 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+PGRpdj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PlRoYW5rcyBQYXVsLCBidXQgSWYgdGhhdCB3 YXMgdGhlIGNhc2UsIHRoZW4gcnVubmluZyA1IGB0b3AgLVNIYCB3aXRoIGEgcmVmcmVzaCBvZiAx 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MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Stavros Filargyropoulos Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 16:45:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system To: Paul Procacci Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e751ff05f2bb7de3" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.48 / 15.00]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[stav.cc:s=google]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::232:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[stav.cc:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[stav.cc]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NzHjZ6qCXz446N X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000e751ff05f2bb7de3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" According to documentation: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?w(1) "The load average numbers give the number of jobs in the run queue averaged over 1, 5 and 15 minutes". So it is *averaged*. Which means that for a load of 0.20, the run queue should have a job in it 20% of the time. That's not what I see in `top`... On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos wrote: > Thanks Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a > refresh of 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I > see. > > This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do > you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a > load of less than 0.20? > > I'm pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also > haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs. > > Thanks for taking a look anyway. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > >> Stavros, >> >> Load averages by themselves mean very little. >> It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about. >> >> Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at >> least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over >> time.[1] >> >> Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no >> problem here at all. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul Procacci >> >> [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920 >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul. >>> >>> Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. >>> >>> This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from it >>> >>> 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 >>> Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER SWAP >>> PAGER >>> Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out in >>> out >>> Tot Share Tot Share Free count >>> Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages >>> All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt >>> Interrupts >>> Proc: cow 34 >>> total >>> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod >>> uart0 4 >>> 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 >>> cpu0:timer >>> %ozfod 9 >>> cpu1:timer >>> 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 >>> cpu2:timer >>> | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 >>> cpu3:timer >>> totfr 4 >>> xhci0 128 >>> 229 dtbuf react >>> ahci0 129 >>> Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak >>> nvme0:admi >>> Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs >>> nvme0:io0 >>> 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn >>> nvme0:io1 >>> 355M wire >>> nvme0:io2 >>> Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act >>> nvme0:io3 >>> KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact >>> igb0:rxq0 >>> tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund >>> igb0:rxq1 >>> MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 >>> igb0:rxq2 >>> %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf >>> igb0:rxq3 >>> >>> igb0:aq >>> >>> And the output of `top -SH` for reference: >>> >>> last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 >>> >>> up >>> 0+00:08:13 15:57:54 >>> 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting >>> CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle >>> Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free >>> Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free >>> >>> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >>> COMMAND >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% >>> idle{idle: cpu2} >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% >>> idle{idle: cpu3} >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% >>> idle{idle: cpu0} >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% >>> idle{idle: cpu1} >>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% >>> kernel{if_config_tqg_0} >>> 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top >>> 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% >>> intr{swi4: clock (0)} >>> 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% >>> rand_harvestq >>> 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% >>> pagedaemon{dom0} >>> 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd >>> 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% >>> sendmail >>> 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% >>> usb{usbus0} >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{swi4: clock (2)} >>> 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{irq128: xhci0} >>> 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{/ worker} >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{swi4: clock (1)} >>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% >>> kernel{if_io_tqg_2} >>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} >>> 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% syncer >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{swi4: clock (3)} >>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{bufdaemon} >>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stavros >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What flags have you included with top? >>>> >>>> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top -SH` >>>> is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. >>>> >>>> systat -vmstat >>>> >>>> ^^ Another command that I like. Also may give you insight. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Paul Procacci >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all >>>>> times, although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free. >>>>> >>>>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either. >>>>> >>>>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the >>>>> CPU a Xeon 2314. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Stavros >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> __________________ >>>> >>>> :(){ :|:& };: >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> __________________ >> >> :(){ :|:& };: >> > --000000000000e751ff05f2bb7de3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
According to documentation:

"The load average numbers give the number of jobs in the run queu=
e averaged over 1, 5 and 15 minutes". So it is *averaged*.
Which means that for a load of 0.20, the run queue should have a job in = it 20% of the time. That's not what I see in `top`...

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc> wrote:
Thank= s Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a refresh o= f 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I see.
<= div>
This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanat= ion we have? Do you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out = there that has a load of less than 0.20?

I'= ;m pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also = haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs.

Thanks for taking a look anyway.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2= 023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
Stavros,
=

Load averages by themselves mean very little.
= It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried ab= out.

Load averages on BSD are simply processes whi= ch have wanted to run at=20 least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over=20 time.[1]

Unless you're having a specific problem, I&#= 39;d guess to say there is no problem here at all.

Thanks,
Paul Procacci



On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoul= os <stav@stav.cc&g= t; wrote:
Thanks Paul.

Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see = anything suspicious.

This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure= I understand much from it

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%busy =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0142M buf =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:aq

And the output= of `top -SH` for reference:

last pid: =C2=A01= 508; =C2=A0load averages: =C2=A00.25, =C2=A00.22, =C2=A00.10 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 up 0+00:08:13 =C2=A015:57:54
131 threads= : =C2=A0 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting
CPU: =C2=A00.1% user, =C2= =A00.0% nice, =C2=A00.0% system, =C2=A00.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle
Mem: 1= 6M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free
Swap: 3962M Total= , 3962M Free

=C2=A0 PID USERNAME =C2=A0 =C2=A0PRI NICE =C2=A0 SIZE = =C2=A0 =C2=A0RES STATE =C2=A0 =C2=A0C =C2=A0 TIME =C2=A0 =C2=A0WCPU COMMAND=
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K RUN =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 =C2=A0 8:12 =C2=A099.99% idle= {idle: cpu2}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU3 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 8:11 =C2=A099= .98% idle{idle: cpu3}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A015= 5 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 8:12 = =C2=A099.97% idle{idle: cpu0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2= =A0 8:11 =C2=A099.96% idle{idle: cpu1}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.04% kernel{if_config_tqg_0}
= =C2=A01508 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A014M = =C2=A03812K CPU2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% top
=C2=A01493= stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A015M =C2=A05080K= select =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% tmux
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI= T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:01 =C2=A0 0.01% intr{swi4: clock (0)}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 5 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.01% = rand_harvestq
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0= =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A048K psleep =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2= =A0 0.00% pagedaemon{dom0}
=C2=A01440 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2= =A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A021M =C2=A09440K select =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0= 0.00% sshd
=C2=A01404 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A018M =C2=A06988K select =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% sen= dmail
=C2=A0 =C2=A015 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-72 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A096K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 =C2=A0 0:= 00 =C2=A0 0.00% usb{usbus0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 = =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (2)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-88 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI= T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{irq128: xhci0}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= B =C2=A0 144K sdflus =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{/ worker}<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% int= r{swi4: clock (1)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 = =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% kernel{if_io_tqg_2}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon= -0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 9 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K syncer =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% = syncer
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00= % intr{swi4: clock (3)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= -16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K psleep =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00= =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufdaemon}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1}

Thanks,
Stavros


On Fri, Jan 20= , 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
What flags have = you included with top?

By default `top` doesn'= t show any kernel related processes.=C2=A0 `top -SH`=C2=A0 is useful in thi= s respect and others flags may be useful as well.

= systat -vmstat

^^=C2=A0 Another command that I like.=C2= =A0 Also may give you insight.

Thanks,
P= aul Procacci

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoul= os <stav@stav.cc&g= t; wrote:
Hi,

I just installed 13.1 on a sys= tem, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, although nothing is running and = the CPU is 100% free.

`ps aux` and `top` don't= show anything of interest either.

For what's = worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314.

Any ideas/comma= nds that will help me troubleshoot this further?

T= hanks,
Stavros


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I'm being lazy and don't want to look at the source code. That's something you could do. Thanks, Paul Procacci On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos wrote: > Thanks Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a > refresh of 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I > see. > > This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do > you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a > load of less than 0.20? > > I'm pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also > haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs. > > Thanks for taking a look anyway. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > >> Stavros, >> >> Load averages by themselves mean very little. >> It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about. >> >> Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at >> least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over >> time.[1] >> >> Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no >> problem here at all. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul Procacci >> >> [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920 >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul. >>> >>> Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. >>> >>> This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from it >>> >>> 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 >>> Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER SWAP >>> PAGER >>> Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out in >>> out >>> Tot Share Tot Share Free count >>> Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages >>> All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt >>> Interrupts >>> Proc: cow 34 >>> total >>> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod >>> uart0 4 >>> 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 >>> cpu0:timer >>> %ozfod 9 >>> cpu1:timer >>> 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 >>> cpu2:timer >>> | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 >>> cpu3:timer >>> totfr 4 >>> xhci0 128 >>> 229 dtbuf react >>> ahci0 129 >>> Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak >>> nvme0:admi >>> Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs >>> nvme0:io0 >>> 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn >>> nvme0:io1 >>> 355M wire >>> nvme0:io2 >>> Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act >>> nvme0:io3 >>> KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact >>> igb0:rxq0 >>> tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund >>> igb0:rxq1 >>> MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 >>> igb0:rxq2 >>> %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf >>> igb0:rxq3 >>> >>> igb0:aq >>> >>> And the output of `top -SH` for reference: >>> >>> last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 >>> >>> up >>> 0+00:08:13 15:57:54 >>> 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting >>> CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle >>> Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free >>> Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free >>> >>> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >>> COMMAND >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% >>> idle{idle: cpu2} >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% >>> idle{idle: cpu3} >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% >>> idle{idle: cpu0} >>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% >>> idle{idle: cpu1} >>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% >>> kernel{if_config_tqg_0} >>> 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top >>> 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% >>> intr{swi4: clock (0)} >>> 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% >>> rand_harvestq >>> 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% >>> pagedaemon{dom0} >>> 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd >>> 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% >>> sendmail >>> 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% >>> usb{usbus0} >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{swi4: clock (2)} >>> 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{irq128: xhci0} >>> 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{/ worker} >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{swi4: clock (1)} >>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% >>> kernel{if_io_tqg_2} >>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} >>> 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% syncer >>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% >>> intr{swi4: clock (3)} >>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{bufdaemon} >>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% >>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stavros >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What flags have you included with top? >>>> >>>> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top -SH` >>>> is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. >>>> >>>> systat -vmstat >>>> >>>> ^^ Another command that I like. Also may give you insight. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Paul Procacci >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all >>>>> times, although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free. >>>>> >>>>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either. >>>>> >>>>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the >>>>> CPU a Xeon 2314. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Stavros >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> __________________ >>>> >>>> :(){ :|:& };: >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> __________________ >> >> :(){ :|:& };: >> > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --000000000000bae7d105f2bba2e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+PGRpdj5JJiMzOTtsbCBjb25jZWRlIGl0IHByb2JhYmx5IGlzbiYjMzk7 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owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Stavros Filargyropoulos Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 17:08:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system To: Paul Procacci Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001c760e05f2bbd17f" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NzJDS2YZNz46vh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000001c760e05f2bbd17f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Well, actually you were not far off. The 5 seconds is the interval we look into the run queue: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/kern/kern_synch.c?view=markup#l87. The average is still for 1, 5, 15 min. So a load 0.20 means that out of the 12 times we looked in the run queue the past minute, at least 2.5 there was a job. Which I think is consistent with what everyone understands `load` is. And again is not what I see in `top`. Unless we count the `idle` process? Which we shouldn't... On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:56 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > I'll concede it probably isn't a 5 second window as what I've provided is > for OpenBSD, but it's still a measurement of processes in the run queue - > that's for sure. > I'm being lazy and don't want to look at the source code. That's > something you could do. > > Thanks, > Paul Procacci > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos > wrote: > >> Thanks Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a >> refresh of 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I >> see. >> >> This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do >> you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a >> load of less than 0.20? >> >> I'm pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also >> haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs. >> >> Thanks for taking a look anyway. >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci >> wrote: >> >>> Stavros, >>> >>> Load averages by themselves mean very little. >>> It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about. >>> >>> Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at >>> least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over >>> time.[1] >>> >>> Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no >>> problem here at all. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Paul Procacci >>> >>> [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Paul. >>>> >>>> Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. >>>> >>>> This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from >>>> it >>>> >>>> 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 >>>> Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER SWAP >>>> PAGER >>>> Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out in >>>> out >>>> Tot Share Tot Share Free count >>>> Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages >>>> All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt >>>> Interrupts >>>> Proc: cow 34 >>>> total >>>> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod >>>> uart0 4 >>>> 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 >>>> cpu0:timer >>>> %ozfod 9 >>>> cpu1:timer >>>> 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 >>>> cpu2:timer >>>> | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 >>>> cpu3:timer >>>> totfr 4 >>>> xhci0 128 >>>> 229 dtbuf react >>>> ahci0 129 >>>> Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak >>>> nvme0:admi >>>> Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs >>>> nvme0:io0 >>>> 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn >>>> nvme0:io1 >>>> 355M wire >>>> nvme0:io2 >>>> Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act >>>> nvme0:io3 >>>> KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact >>>> igb0:rxq0 >>>> tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund >>>> igb0:rxq1 >>>> MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 >>>> igb0:rxq2 >>>> %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf >>>> igb0:rxq3 >>>> >>>> igb0:aq >>>> >>>> And the output of `top -SH` for reference: >>>> >>>> last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 >>>> >>>> up >>>> 0+00:08:13 15:57:54 >>>> 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting >>>> CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle >>>> Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free >>>> Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free >>>> >>>> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >>>> COMMAND >>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% >>>> idle{idle: cpu2} >>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% >>>> idle{idle: cpu3} >>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% >>>> idle{idle: cpu0} >>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% >>>> idle{idle: cpu1} >>>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% >>>> kernel{if_config_tqg_0} >>>> 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top >>>> 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux >>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% >>>> intr{swi4: clock (0)} >>>> 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% >>>> rand_harvestq >>>> 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% >>>> pagedaemon{dom0} >>>> 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd >>>> 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% >>>> sendmail >>>> 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% >>>> usb{usbus0} >>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>>> intr{swi4: clock (2)} >>>> 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>>> intr{irq128: xhci0} >>>> 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% >>>> bufdaemon{/ worker} >>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% >>>> intr{swi4: clock (1)} >>>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% >>>> kernel{if_io_tqg_2} >>>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% >>>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} >>>> 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% >>>> syncer >>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% >>>> intr{swi4: clock (3)} >>>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% >>>> bufdaemon{bufdaemon} >>>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% >>>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Stavros >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What flags have you included with top? >>>>> >>>>> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top >>>>> -SH` is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. >>>>> >>>>> systat -vmstat >>>>> >>>>> ^^ Another command that I like. Also may give you insight. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Paul Procacci >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all >>>>>> times, although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free. >>>>>> >>>>>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either. >>>>>> >>>>>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and >>>>>> the CPU a Xeon 2314. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Stavros >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> __________________ >>>>> >>>>> :(){ :|:& };: >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> __________________ >>> >>> :(){ :|:& };: >>> >> > > -- > __________________ > > :(){ :|:& };: > --0000000000001c760e05f2bbd17f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, actually you were not far off.

The 5 seconds is the interval we look into the run queue:


The average = is still for 1, 5, 15 min. So a load 0.20 means that out of the 12 times we= looked in the run queue the past minute, at least 2.5 there was a job. Whi= ch I think is consistent with what everyone understands `load` is. And agai= n is not what I see in `top`.

Unless we count the= =C2=A0 `idle` process? Which we shouldn't...



On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:56 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
I'l= l concede it probably isn't a 5 second window as what I've provided= is for OpenBSD, but it's still a measurement of processes in the run q= ueue - that's for sure.
I'm being lazy and don't = want to look at the source code.=C2=A0 That's something you could do.

Thanks,
Paul Procacci

=
On Fri, Ja= n 20, 2023 at 7:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc> wrote:
Thank= s Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a refresh o= f 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I see.
<= div>
This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanat= ion we have? Do you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out = there that has a load of less than 0.20?

I'= ;m pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also = haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs.

Thanks for taking a look anyway.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2= 023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
Stavros,
=

Load averages by themselves mean very little.
= It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried ab= out.

Load averages on BSD are simply processes whi= ch have wanted to run at=20 least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over=20 time.[1]

Unless you're having a specific problem, I&#= 39;d guess to say there is no problem here at all.

Thanks,
Paul Procacci



On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoul= os <stav@stav.cc&g= t; wrote:
Thanks Paul.

Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see = anything suspicious.

This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure= I understand much from it

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 users =C2=A0 =C2=A0Load = =C2=A00.20 =C2=A00.15 =C2=A00.06 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jan 20 15:54:53
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Mem usage: =C2=A0 1%Phy= =C2=A00%Kmem =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 VN PAGER =C2=A0 SWAP PAGER
Mem: =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0REAL =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 VIRTUAL =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in =C2= =A0 out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in =C2=A0 out
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tot =C2= =A0 Share =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tot =C2=A0 =C2=A0Share =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Free =C2=A0 co= unt
Act 33476K =C2=A010672K =C2=A0 =C2=A0513G =C2=A0 12612K =C2=A0 31367= M =C2=A0 pages
All 35920K =C2=A012928K =C2=A0 =C2=A0513G =C2=A0 47112K = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 ioflt =C2=A0Interrupts
Proc: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cow = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A034 total
=C2=A0 r =C2=A0 p =C2=A0 d =C2=A0 =C2=A0s = =C2=A0 w =C2=A0 Csw =C2=A0Trp =C2=A0Sys =C2=A0Int =C2=A0Sof =C2=A0Flt =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 zfod =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0uart0 4
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 25 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 118 =C2=A0 =C2= =A01 =C2=A0 21 =C2=A0 =C2=A05 =C2=A0 13 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= ozfod =C2=A0 =C2=A010 cpu0:timer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0%ozfod =C2=A0 =C2=A0 9 cpu1:timer
=C2=A00.0%Sys =C2=A0 = 0.0%Intr =C2=A00.0%User =C2=A00.0%Nice =C2=A0100%Idle =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 daefr =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 cpu2:timer
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| = =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| = =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 prcfr =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 4 cpu3:timer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 totfr =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4 xhci0 128
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0229 dtbuf =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0react =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ahci0 129
Namei =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Name-cache = =C2=A0 Dir-cache =C2=A0 =C2=A0619780 maxvn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0pdwak =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:admi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Calls =C2=A0 =C2= =A0hits =C2=A0 % =C2=A0 =C2=A0hits =C2=A0 % =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 805 numvn = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05 pdpgs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io0
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A07 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7 100 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A052 frevn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0intrn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io1
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0355M wire =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nvme0:io2
Disks= =C2=A0nvd0 =C2=A0ada0 =C2=A0ada1 =C2=A0ada2 =C2=A0ada3 =C2=A0ada4 =C2=A0 d= a0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 17M act =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io3
KB= /t =C2=A016.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2= =A00.00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2880K inact =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq0
tps =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 laun= d =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq1
MB/s =C2=A0 0.01 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 = =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 31G free = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 igb0:rxq2
%busy =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0142M buf =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:aq

And the output= of `top -SH` for reference:

last pid: =C2=A01= 508; =C2=A0load averages: =C2=A00.25, =C2=A00.22, =C2=A00.10 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 up 0+00:08:13 =C2=A015:57:54
131 threads= : =C2=A0 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting
CPU: =C2=A00.1% user, =C2= =A00.0% nice, =C2=A00.0% system, =C2=A00.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle
Mem: 1= 6M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free
Swap: 3962M Total= , 3962M Free

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=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K RUN =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 =C2=A0 8:12 =C2=A099.99% idle= {idle: cpu2}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU3 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 8:11 =C2=A099= .98% idle{idle: cpu3}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A015= 5 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 8:12 = =C2=A099.97% idle{idle: cpu0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2= =A0 8:11 =C2=A099.96% idle{idle: cpu1}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.04% kernel{if_config_tqg_0}
= =C2=A01508 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A014M = =C2=A03812K CPU2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% top
=C2=A01493= stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A015M =C2=A05080K= select =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% tmux
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI= T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:01 =C2=A0 0.01% intr{swi4: clock (0)}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 5 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.01% = rand_harvestq
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0= =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A048K psleep =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2= =A0 0.00% pagedaemon{dom0}
=C2=A01440 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2= =A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A021M =C2=A09440K select =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0= 0.00% sshd
=C2=A01404 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A018M =C2=A06988K select =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% sen= dmail
=C2=A0 =C2=A015 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-72 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A096K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 =C2=A0 0:= 00 =C2=A0 0.00% usb{usbus0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 = =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (2)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-88 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI= T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{irq128: xhci0}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= B =C2=A0 144K sdflus =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{/ worker}<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% int= r{swi4: clock (1)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 = =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% kernel{if_io_tqg_2}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon= -0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 9 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K syncer =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% = syncer
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00= % intr{swi4: clock (3)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= -16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K psleep =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00= =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufdaemon}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1}

Thanks,
Stavros


On Fri, Jan 20= , 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
What flags have = you included with top?

By default `top` doesn'= t show any kernel related processes.=C2=A0 `top -SH`=C2=A0 is useful in thi= s respect and others flags may be useful as well.

= systat -vmstat

^^=C2=A0 Another command that I like.=C2= =A0 Also may give you insight.

Thanks,
P= aul Procacci

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoul= os <stav@stav.cc&g= t; wrote:
Hi,

I just installed 13.1 on a sys= tem, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, although nothing is running and = the CPU is 100% free.

`ps aux` and `top` don't= show anything of interest either.

For what's = worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314.

Any ideas/comma= nds that will help me troubleshoot this further?

T= hanks,
Stavros


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On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 5:08 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos wrote: > Well, actually you were not far off. > > The 5 seconds is the interval we look into the run queue: > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/kern/kern_synch.c?view=markup#l87 > . > > The average is still for 1, 5, 15 min. So a load 0.20 means that out of > the 12 times we looked in the run queue the past minute, at least 2.5 there > was a job. Which I think is consistent with what everyone understands > `load` is. And again is not what I see in `top`. > > Unless we count the `idle` process? Which we shouldn't... > > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:56 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > >> I'll concede it probably isn't a 5 second window as what I've provided is >> for OpenBSD, but it's still a measurement of processes in the run queue - >> that's for sure. >> I'm being lazy and don't want to look at the source code. That's >> something you could do. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul Procacci >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a >>> refresh of 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I >>> see. >>> >>> This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do >>> you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a >>> load of less than 0.20? >>> >>> I'm pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also >>> haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs. >>> >>> Thanks for taking a look anyway. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Stavros, >>>> >>>> Load averages by themselves mean very little. >>>> It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about. >>>> >>>> Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at >>>> least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over >>>> time.[1] >>>> >>>> Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no >>>> problem here at all. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Paul Procacci >>>> >>>> [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Paul. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious. >>>>> >>>>> This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from >>>>> it >>>>> >>>>> 2 users Load 0.20 0.15 0.06 Jan 20 15:54:53 >>>>> Mem usage: 1%Phy 0%Kmem VN PAGER >>>>> SWAP PAGER >>>>> Mem: REAL VIRTUAL in out >>>>> in out >>>>> Tot Share Tot Share Free count >>>>> Act 33476K 10672K 513G 12612K 31367M pages >>>>> All 35920K 12928K 513G 47112K ioflt >>>>> Interrupts >>>>> Proc: cow 34 >>>>> total >>>>> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt zfod >>>>> uart0 4 >>>>> 25 118 1 21 5 13 1 ozfod 10 >>>>> cpu0:timer >>>>> %ozfod 9 >>>>> cpu1:timer >>>>> 0.0%Sys 0.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 100%Idle daefr 6 >>>>> cpu2:timer >>>>> | | | | | | | | | | | prcfr 4 >>>>> cpu3:timer >>>>> totfr 4 >>>>> xhci0 128 >>>>> 229 dtbuf react >>>>> ahci0 129 >>>>> Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 619780 maxvn pdwak >>>>> nvme0:admi >>>>> Calls hits % hits % 805 numvn 5 pdpgs >>>>> nvme0:io0 >>>>> 7 7 100 52 frevn intrn >>>>> nvme0:io1 >>>>> 355M wire >>>>> nvme0:io2 >>>>> Disks nvd0 ada0 ada1 ada2 ada3 ada4 da0 17M act >>>>> nvme0:io3 >>>>> KB/t 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2880K inact >>>>> igb0:rxq0 >>>>> tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 laund >>>>> igb0:rxq1 >>>>> MB/s 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 31G free 1 >>>>> igb0:rxq2 >>>>> %busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 142M buf >>>>> igb0:rxq3 >>>>> >>>>> igb0:aq >>>>> >>>>> And the output of `top -SH` for reference: >>>>> >>>>> last pid: 1508; load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.10 >>>>> >>>>> up >>>>> 0+00:08:13 15:57:54 >>>>> 131 threads: 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting >>>>> CPU: 0.1% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle >>>>> Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free >>>>> Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free >>>>> >>>>> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >>>>> COMMAND >>>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K RUN 2 8:12 99.99% >>>>> idle{idle: cpu2} >>>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU3 3 8:11 99.98% >>>>> idle{idle: cpu3} >>>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU0 0 8:12 99.97% >>>>> idle{idle: cpu0} >>>>> 11 root 155 ki31 0B 64K CPU1 1 8:11 99.96% >>>>> idle{idle: cpu1} >>>>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 0 0:00 0.04% >>>>> kernel{if_config_tqg_0} >>>>> 1508 stavros 20 0 14M 3812K CPU2 2 0:00 0.02% top >>>>> 1493 stavros 20 0 15M 5080K select 1 0:00 0.02% tmux >>>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:01 0.01% >>>>> intr{swi4: clock (0)} >>>>> 5 root -16 - 0B 16K - 0 0:00 0.01% >>>>> rand_harvestq >>>>> 6 root -16 - 0B 48K psleep 0 0:00 0.00% >>>>> pagedaemon{dom0} >>>>> 1440 stavros 20 0 21M 9440K select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd >>>>> 1404 root 20 0 18M 6988K select 2 0:00 0.00% >>>>> sendmail >>>>> 15 root -72 - 0B 96K - 3 0:00 0.00% >>>>> usb{usbus0} >>>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>>>> intr{swi4: clock (2)} >>>>> 12 root -88 - 0B 320K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% >>>>> intr{irq128: xhci0} >>>>> 8 root 20 - 0B 144K sdflus 3 0:00 0.00% >>>>> bufdaemon{/ worker} >>>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% >>>>> intr{swi4: clock (1)} >>>>> 0 root -76 - 0B 640K - 2 0:00 0.00% >>>>> kernel{if_io_tqg_2} >>>>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 1 0:00 0.00% >>>>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0} >>>>> 9 root 16 - 0B 16K syncer 3 0:00 0.00% >>>>> syncer >>>>> 12 root -60 - 0B 320K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% >>>>> intr{swi4: clock (3)} >>>>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% >>>>> bufdaemon{bufdaemon} >>>>> 8 root -16 - 0B 144K - 0 0:00 0.00% >>>>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1} >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Stavros >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What flags have you included with top? >>>>>> >>>>>> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes. `top >>>>>> -SH` is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> systat -vmstat >>>>>> >>>>>> ^^ Another command that I like. Also may give you insight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Paul Procacci >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all >>>>>>> times, although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and >>>>>>> the CPU a Xeon 2314. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Stavros >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> __________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> :(){ :|:& };: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> __________________ >>>> >>>> :(){ :|:& };: >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> __________________ >> >> :(){ :|:& };: >> > --0000000000001162a505f2bbd426 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Something doesn't add up and is bugging me.
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On Fri,= Jan 20, 2023 at 5:08 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at= 4:56 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll concede it proba= bly isn't a 5 second window as what I've provided is for OpenBSD, b= ut it's still a measurement of processes in the run queue - that's = for sure.
I'm being lazy and don't want to look at th= e source code.=C2=A0 That's something you could do.

Thanks,
Paul Procacci

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:28= PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc> wrote:
Thanks Paul, but If tha= t was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a refresh of 1 second, should= increase the load to x4. Which is not what I see.

This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do yo= u mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a l= oad of less than 0.20?

I'm pretty sure tha= t last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also haven't seen t= his load in idle system in any other *BSDs.

Th= anks for taking a look anyway.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Pau= l Procacci <ppr= ocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
Stavros,

Loa= d averages by themselves mean very little.
It's not a fig= ure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about.
Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to = run at=20 least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over=20 time.[1]

Unless you're having a specific problem, I&#= 39;d guess to say there is no problem here at all.

Thanks,
Paul Procacci



On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoul= os <stav@stav.cc&g= t; wrote:
Thanks Paul.

Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see = anything suspicious.

This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure= I understand much from it

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 users =C2=A0 =C2=A0Load = =C2=A00.20 =C2=A00.15 =C2=A00.06 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jan 20 15:54:53
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Mem usage: =C2=A0 1%Phy= =C2=A00%Kmem =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 VN PAGER =C2=A0 SWAP PAGER
Mem: =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0REAL =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 VIRTUAL =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in =C2= =A0 out =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in =C2=A0 out
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tot =C2= =A0 Share =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tot =C2=A0 =C2=A0Share =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Free =C2=A0 co= unt
Act 33476K =C2=A010672K =C2=A0 =C2=A0513G =C2=A0 12612K =C2=A0 31367= M =C2=A0 pages
All 35920K =C2=A012928K =C2=A0 =C2=A0513G =C2=A0 47112K = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 ioflt =C2=A0Interrupts
Proc: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cow = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A034 total
=C2=A0 r =C2=A0 p =C2=A0 d =C2=A0 =C2=A0s = =C2=A0 w =C2=A0 Csw =C2=A0Trp =C2=A0Sys =C2=A0Int =C2=A0Sof =C2=A0Flt =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 zfod =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0uart0 4
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 25 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 118 =C2=A0 =C2= =A01 =C2=A0 21 =C2=A0 =C2=A05 =C2=A0 13 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= ozfod =C2=A0 =C2=A010 cpu0:timer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0%ozfod =C2=A0 =C2=A0 9 cpu1:timer
=C2=A00.0%Sys =C2=A0 = 0.0%Intr =C2=A00.0%User =C2=A00.0%Nice =C2=A0100%Idle =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 daefr =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 cpu2:timer
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| = =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| = =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 prcfr =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 4 cpu3:timer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 totfr =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4 xhci0 128
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0229 dtbuf =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0react =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ahci0 129
Namei =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Name-cache = =C2=A0 Dir-cache =C2=A0 =C2=A0619780 maxvn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0pdwak =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:admi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Calls =C2=A0 =C2= =A0hits =C2=A0 % =C2=A0 =C2=A0hits =C2=A0 % =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 805 numvn = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05 pdpgs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io0
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A07 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7 100 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A052 frevn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0intrn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io1
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0355M wire =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nvme0:io2
Disks= =C2=A0nvd0 =C2=A0ada0 =C2=A0ada1 =C2=A0ada2 =C2=A0ada3 =C2=A0ada4 =C2=A0 d= a0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 17M act =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io3
KB= /t =C2=A016.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2= =A00.00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2880K inact =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq0
tps =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 laun= d =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq1
MB/s =C2=A0 0.01 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 = =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 31G free = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 igb0:rxq2
%busy =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0142M buf =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:aq

And the output= of `top -SH` for reference:

last pid: =C2=A01= 508; =C2=A0load averages: =C2=A00.25, =C2=A00.22, =C2=A00.10 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 up 0+00:08:13 =C2=A015:57:54
131 threads= : =C2=A0 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting
CPU: =C2=A00.1% user, =C2= =A00.0% nice, =C2=A00.0% system, =C2=A00.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle
Mem: 1= 6M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free
Swap: 3962M Total= , 3962M Free

=C2=A0 PID USERNAME =C2=A0 =C2=A0PRI NICE =C2=A0 SIZE = =C2=A0 =C2=A0RES STATE =C2=A0 =C2=A0C =C2=A0 TIME =C2=A0 =C2=A0WCPU COMMAND=
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K RUN =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 =C2=A0 8:12 =C2=A099.99% idle= {idle: cpu2}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU3 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 8:11 =C2=A099= .98% idle{idle: cpu3}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A015= 5 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 8:12 = =C2=A099.97% idle{idle: cpu0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2= =A0 8:11 =C2=A099.96% idle{idle: cpu1}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.04% kernel{if_config_tqg_0}
= =C2=A01508 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A014M = =C2=A03812K CPU2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% top
=C2=A01493= stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A015M =C2=A05080K= select =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% tmux
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI= T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:01 =C2=A0 0.01% intr{swi4: clock (0)}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 5 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.01% = rand_harvestq
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0= =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A048K psleep =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2= =A0 0.00% pagedaemon{dom0}
=C2=A01440 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2= =A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A021M =C2=A09440K select =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0= 0.00% sshd
=C2=A01404 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A018M =C2=A06988K select =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% sen= dmail
=C2=A0 =C2=A015 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-72 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A096K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 =C2=A0 0:= 00 =C2=A0 0.00% usb{usbus0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 = =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (2)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-88 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI= T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{irq128: xhci0}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= B =C2=A0 144K sdflus =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{/ worker}<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% int= r{swi4: clock (1)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 = =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% kernel{if_io_tqg_2}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon= -0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 9 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K syncer =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% = syncer
=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00= % intr{swi4: clock (3)}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= -16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K psleep =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00= =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufdaemon}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1}

Thanks,
Stavros


On Fri, Jan 20= , 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
What flags have = you included with top?

By default `top` doesn'= t show any kernel related processes.=C2=A0 `top -SH`=C2=A0 is useful in thi= s respect and others flags may be useful as well.

= systat -vmstat

^^=C2=A0 Another command that I like.=C2= =A0 Also may give you insight.

Thanks,
P= aul Procacci

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoul= os <stav@stav.cc&g= t; wrote:
Hi,

I just installed 13.1 on a sys= tem, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, although nothing is running and = the CPU is 100% free.

`ps aux` and `top` don't= show anything of interest either.

For what's = worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314.

Any ideas/comma= nds that will help me troubleshoot this further?

T= hanks,
Stavros


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REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:45638, ipnet:2400:b800:5::/48, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 21 January 2023 12:09:40 pm AEDT, Stavros Filargyropoulos wrote: > Something doesn't add up and is bugging me=2E This has been bugging quite a few people for quite a few years: https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D173541 What says your? # sysctl kern=2Eeventtimer | grep -v =2Eet=2E Is your system using LAPIC? If so, see if HPET looks any better / more se= nsible? cheers, Ian PS Also bugging me is dreadful endless top-posting, tail-quoting Microsoft= corporate-email-style mess=2E From nobody Sat Jan 21 06:38:12 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NzRX31D5Nz32Dmm for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 06:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x331.google.com (mail-ot1-x331.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::331]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NzRX24Xy8z3NlW for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 06:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ot1-x331.google.com with SMTP id t7-20020a05683014c700b006864760b1caso4368605otq.0 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:38:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=B8Yaf+VrZNteaBSzHR54e3cG579Xt7GCZh5T1x1g0I4=; b=oIlx1/ZsZ2b6QrfKvyoeGBgiBkXPZ9UOl5lN42mjJzN2vuv+/8Lo857eOX0OHg2G1V YGEmMvmcKUdCcKppKONm1TOQVTboS10mBjdSFMJGx392Cb+f2Oq75HsKA0/cCLAyr0dc 5j0YnZeB4/YEJtL9t61Sydi6/AcROLZFH/0cniuUnNtYGslII98pS520/7rSi4re0T+u Gob/MDQHblb0A49CaA9TdnE0B5OFYbl5QpPnKojEU4on6LenYkCDU8/7GWqkezI5Lly+ Q+C076yUizJJuS1WsUbsw8gLgYB4yDVtfUEqTkEexNTbgll6KT2PKJHvKXcy8nUxlCZM Sr7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=B8Yaf+VrZNteaBSzHR54e3cG579Xt7GCZh5T1x1g0I4=; b=obMoft4VRa+ayM+a12E4FbOaQ+ila19jXfugDYQxrsCYBMMKb+Q6Hi6b9U4q0iuCi0 qUm/d/DGfo7WKxmuWvdaHOcFXa9Yfsm3xsHq8Hk36egYG6UnlzLHOWBL0hRYAGs/8qp2 JEuG/n3UGq+AHGfCiAKuAhMXP2JyvlTg73BlXBWow83cnU0Pp1AGBiu65OWco+N5MrIp T7oKh0oNbSM657l5lBZ6QG+GpvGQ/Ds9t+aqcR2Mpi9qCFp819vhAWY6e2wl30bcZDhB hjqeEJoalx2njDN681JoUsYp98F21UOaScYYkUBhTd3eKE5IfKM468+84SgfGttbWnXQ ZbZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2krB1h5zSN40UP8wuLvwYnS+Pm3LRHDXpDZHEnJt0sBXcgvkGq9R Ae3H8mCQS6+/yFqt+ZzwsuVzwsQXyJFFptkrr4dI4eFC5nmZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvQ3p5J/EcyDp4ryS5YrlX1BPTSSYYglVCZNbwgIotcrRcPdbUghLpfg/IsBNMFr6UlfTrAd+TgVEDFbkNfJX0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1211:b0:684:9eae:c451 with SMTP id r17-20020a056830121100b006849eaec451mr1026858otp.267.1674283104801; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:38:24 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1889CB4C-4B11-4178-8446-97DA9E5EC35A@nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <1889CB4C-4B11-4178-8446-97DA9E5EC35A@nimnet.asn.au> From: Paul Procacci Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 01:38:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system To: Ian Smith Cc: Stavros Filargyropoulos , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b71a9b05f2c0692a" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NzRX24Xy8z3NlW X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000b71a9b05f2c0692a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sorry but blame google and/or gmail for the top posting. I use whatever their defaults are and that's not going to change unless they change it. There was a time, oh I don't know, 30 years ago now, where I'd be a pompous advocate of such a thing as well. RFC's surrounding usenet described this in pretty clear detail. (Just looked it up: 1855). At this point in my life all I would suggest to you is to either suck it up or ban/ignore the messages from senders you don't want to see. Mine included. I found this to be a better approach than attempting to correct people on what is the proper `netiquette'. ~Paul On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:44 PM Ian Smith wrote: > On 21 January 2023 12:09:40 pm AEDT, Stavros Filargyropoulos > wrote: > > > Something doesn't add up and is bugging me. > > This has been bugging quite a few people for quite a few years: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173541 > > What says your? > # sysctl kern.eventtimer | grep -v .et. > > Is your system using LAPIC? If so, see if HPET looks any better / more > sensible? > > cheers, Ian > > PS Also bugging me is dreadful endless top-posting, tail-quoting Microsoft > corporate-email-style mess. > > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --000000000000b71a9b05f2c0692a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry but blame google and/or gmail for the top posti= ng.
I use whatever their defaults are and that's not going to= change unless they change it.

There was a time, oh I don= 't know, 30 years ago now, where I'd be a pompous advocate of such = a thing as well.
RFC's surrounding usenet described this = in pretty clear detail.=C2=A0 (Just looked it up: 1855).

= At this point in my life all I would suggest to you is to either suck it up= or ban/ignore the messages from senders you don't want to see.=C2=A0 M= ine included.
I found this to be a better approach than attem= pting to correct people on what is the proper `netiquette'.=20

~Paul




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On Fri, Jan= 20, 2023 at 11:44 PM Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
On 21 January 2023 12:09:40 pm AEDT, Stavros Filargyro= poulos <stav@stav.cc> wrote:

=C2=A0> Something doesn't add up and is bugging me.

This has been bugging quite a few people for quite a few years:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bu= g.cgi?id=3D173541

What says your?
# sysctl kern.eventtimer | grep -v .et.

Is your system using LAPIC?=C2=A0 If so, see if HPET looks any better / mor= e sensible?

cheers, Ian

PS Also bugging me is dreadful endless top-posting, tail-quoting Microsoft = corporate-email-style mess.



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I tried to install FreeBSD one time on virtual machine then I gave up (because the mouse). I want to try one more time. I will buy a pen-drive. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/main/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs > product LOGITECH UNIFYING 0xc52b Logitech Unifying Receiver > So does that mean I can use the Logitech Unifying Receiver? Another question is Wi-Fi. Do I need the internet to download the GUI desktop environment? My current network Wi-Fi connection is a kind of username password credential way of connecting to the internet (wpa2 enterprise). I am worried if only text terminal, connecting to Wi-Fi would be very difficult for me. So connecting to Wi-Fi is simple as this( https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-wireless-wpa2-enterprise-connection.39557/ )? --0000000000003dc9e405f2c42b07 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi.
I tried to install FreeBSD one time on virtual mac= hine then I gave up (because the mouse). I want to try one more time.
I= will buy a pen-drive.

https://raw.githubusercontent.co= m/freebsd/freebsd-src/main/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs
product LOGITECH UNIFYING 0xc52b Logitech Unif= ying Receiver
So does that mean I can use the Logitech Unifyin= g Receiver?

Another question is Wi-Fi. Do I need the internet to = download the GUI desktop environment?
My current network Wi-Fi connection i= s a kind of username password credential way of connecting to the internet = (wpa2 enterprise).
I am worried if only text terminal, connecting to W= i-Fi would be very difficult for me.

So connecting to Wi-Fi is simple = as this(https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-wirel= ess-wpa2-enterprise-connection.39557/)?


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--0000000000003dc9e405f2c42b07-- From nobody Sat Jan 21 13:11:01 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NzcKt3vrqz2v8jf for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 13:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (mail.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NzcKs3RnNz44N4 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 13:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of news@mips.inka.de has no SPF policy when checking 2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c) smtp.mailfrom=news@mips.inka.de; dmarc=none Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1pJDi4-00B50h-Py; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 14:15:04 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 30LDB1wW074155 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 14:11:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 30LDB1jM074154 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 14:11:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: PDF forms Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 13:11:01 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inka.de]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[news]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:202113, ipnet:2a04:c9c0::/29, country:DE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NzcKs3RnNz44N4 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On 2023-01-19, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > For the last part I guess I can use GIMP but none of the PDF readers > in the ports collection I have tried can handle both filling out and > saving PDF forms. Both Chromium and Firefox support this with their built-in PDF readers. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de