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charset="UTF-8" hello Expert: It's glad to discuss with you. here is my issue: I have an computer which has 2 sata ssd, and i install freebsd 13.2 in the computer. during the installation stage, i select to use zfs and raid1, choice uefi as the boot support. after the installation, test only the first disk can be boot. only one bootable disk can be found in the bios's boot menu. if i remove the first disk, i can not boot into the system. try use the command gpart bootcode to write the bootcode into the second disk, but not work. google's result is also no help for this issue. launch this session to ask if someone face the same question or can give some solution to fix this. very thanks. br/armin --000000000000a40deb0607c2815a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --621616949-106510956-1697432388=:53038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 15 Oct 2023, PstreeM China wrote: > hello Expert: > It's glad to discuss with you. > here is my issue:  > > I have an computer which has 2 sata ssd, and i install freebsd 13.2 in the > computer. > during the installation stage, i select to use zfs  and raid1, choice uefi > as the boot support. > > after the installation, test only the first disk >  can be boot.   > only one bootable disk can be found in the bios's boot menu.  > if i remove the first disk, i can not boot into the >  system. > > try use the command gpart bootcode >  to write the bootcode into the second disk, but not work. > > google's result is also no help for this issue. > launch this session to ask if someone face the same question or can give > some solution to fix this. very thanks. You did not say if each disk was bootable or you had multiple partitions on one or more of the disks. If you want a GUI check out Grub. On some systems I had Grub was too much trouble. Most if not all BIOS have an option to select a bootable disk or partition. 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FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.45)[0.451]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f400::/48]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[2a01:111:f400:7eb2::81d:server fail,2603:10b6:303:94::19:server fail]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S88sh3gkyz4bN2 On 10/15/23 07:57, PstreeM China wrote: > hello Expert: > > It's glad to discuss with you. > here is my issue: > > I have an computer which has 2 sata ssd, and i install freebsd 13.2 in the > computer. > during the installation stage, i select to use zfs and raid1, choice uefi > as the boot support. > > after the installation, test only the first disk > can be boot. > only one bootable disk can be found in the bios's boot menu. > if i remove the first disk, i can not boot into the > system. > > try use the command gpart bootcode > to write the bootcode into the second disk, but not work. UEFI bootcode is not installed or updated with gpart. If you ran a command along the lines of "gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada1" but you are using UEFI booting then the step was wrong. That command would be appropriate for the older BIOS style of booting. If `gpt show` lists an EFI partition on one disk but not the other, than one disk has a partition to store /boot/loader.efi, which is what UEFI booting looks for, while the other disk does not. The partition is likely mounted as /boot/efi by default, but only one will be mounted. It is an msdos type of partition. If only one disk has that partition and the other does not and doesn't have room, then you would need to make room for it by deleting and recreating partitions accordingly. If RAID1=mirroring, you could delete the partition structure on one disk and recreate it to match the correct disk; this requires removing and replacing the vdev for zfs accordingly and it should sync up the data with a scrub process. If you have a swap partition on the disk without the boot partition, you could delete swap partition, make boot partition, and make swap out of the remaining space. In the future, you need to copy /boot/loader.efi to its appropriate location (likely /boot/efi/freebsd/loader.efi or /boot/efi/boot/bootx64.efi) and need to make sure it is copied to both disks. If you question its bootability, copy it to only 1 and force booting form that disk (disconnecting the drive if unsure how the BIOS responds no a failed bootcode load) and then copy it to the second disk after testing; zfs boot environments do not protect this data. Upgrading zfs pool/filesystem (a manual step not performed by freebsd-update) without doing so will likely leave the system unbootable until a new compatible bootloader is copied in. loader.efi(8) and uefi(8) seem to be documentation related to understanding this with the first even giving such upgrade instructions. > google's result is also no help for this issue. > launch this session to ask if someone face the same question or can give > some solution to fix this. very thanks. > > br/armin > From nobody Mon Oct 16 08:11:51 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S88wJ2F6tz4x4bw for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 08:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@hotmail.com) Received: from NAM04-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-mw2nam04olkn20803.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:7e8c::803]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "DigiCert Cloud Services CA-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S88wH2QF7z4cMp for ; 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Another note, ZFS installs have had an issue I heard of where boot code+mounting of said partition is not done across all involved ZFS boot disks. Not sure where the state of that stands but if it hasn't changed then it explains this current state of only 1 disk boots the system. 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.190.31:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.190.31:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S8JY20tkHz4P7h Hi folk. I installed FreeBSD RELEASE 13.2 and upgraded to patch level 4 as = soon as it was up and ready. I am spoiled by some candy stuff so I went ahe= ad setting /bin/tcsh as my default shell. I was using a rather simple ~/.cs= hrc file to get started ( get a prompt in color, useful alias ). Nothing ab= out PATH did I change anywhere IIRC. When I checked $PATH in terminal I was= happy to see that ~/bin was included and so I intended to put some scripts= as shortcuts to long commands and simple tasks there. However, I found tha= t ~/bin in my PATH won't work in tcsh as it got "command not found" error, = I have to use something like $HOME/bin or hard-code like /home/myusername/b= in. Apparently ~ was not interpreted. I checked and it seemed that I got th= is setting from /etc/login.conf (part shown here): default:\ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :passwd_format=3Dsha512:\ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :copyright=3D/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :welcome=3D/var/run/motd:\ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :setenv=3DBLOCKSIZE=3DK:\ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mail=3D/var/mail/$:\ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :path=3D/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /us= r/bin /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin ~/bin:\ I went through the comments in the file and manual pages about the file, no= thing mentioned about ~ not interpreted as $HOME. Am I missing something or= is it worth a bug report? Thanks! 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BR//Armin Edward Sanford Sutton, III =E4=BA=8E 2023=E5=B9=B41= 0=E6=9C=8816=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=B8=80 17:30=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > On 10/15/23 07:57, PstreeM China wrote: > > I have an computer which has 2 sata ssd, and i install freebsd 13.2 in > the > > computer. > > during the installation stage, i select to use zfs and raid1, choice > uefi > > as the boot support. > > Another note, ZFS installs have had an issue I heard of where boot > code+mounting of said partition is not done across all involved ZFS boot > disks. Not sure where the state of that stands but if it hasn't changed > then it explains this current state of only 1 disk boots the system. > > > > --000000000000c743b10607d73e72 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello Edward:

got the message. very thanks for your quickly respond.


it's confi= rmed that i can not do the right configration what i need during the instal= lation stage.=C2=A0

wil = try this by manual, create the efi partation by the right command line.

hope the team can fix this = bug/issue in the future.

BR//Armin



Edward Sanford Sutto= n, III <mirror176@hotmail.com> =E4=BA=8E 2023=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8816=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=B8=80 17:3= 0=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
On 10/= 15/23 07:57, PstreeM China wrote:
> I have an computer which has 2 sata ssd, and i install freebsd 13.2 in= the
> computer.
> during the installation stage, i select to use zfs=C2=A0 and raid1, ch= oice uefi
> as the boot support.

Another note, ZFS installs have had an issue I heard of where boot
code+mounting of said partition is not done across all involved ZFS boot disks. Not sure where the state of that stands but if it hasn't changed=
then it explains this current state of only 1 disk boots the system.



--000000000000c743b10607d73e72-- From nobody Mon Oct 16 23:00:33 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S8Xdr17MBz4xvXk for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 23:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S8Xdp4z1Jz4c4Z for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 23:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=OFp4NMOk; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=panix.com Received: from rain.cave (c-73-142-21-0.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.142.21.0]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4S8Xdg4Jx1z17VB for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:00:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1697497239; bh=+521wDZMm556ooKz02ejqF2mNus22Ui8p/84oP8osk4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=OFp4NMOkF1j3dI/Zk1Av3TBzhL0bklciZJ3YE6CaFJFnRockFJZNCVY9Tbpies5cc inOIaMRlRwl5ouMoFuSn8BCT9kiWiqdd9Un4P1OUt7wbTrtsB+8cXVMy2cC0KcQ8HT nrnOCj0Pp+BG5jaNuJXxfH0Pmq/f4Uj/Kz066giU= Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:00:33 -0400 From: Kurt Hackenberg To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HOME as ~ in default PATH inherited from /etc/login.conf doesn't work for tcsh Message-ID: References: <1244605602.16156449.1697464546558.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1244605602.16156449.1697464546558@mail.yahoo.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1244605602.16156449.1697464546558@mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[panix.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.1.64/26]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[166.84.1.89:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S8Xdp4z1Jz4c4Z On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 01:55:46PM +0000, Jackie J wrote: >However, I found that ~/bin in my PATH won't work in tcsh as it got >"command not found" error, I have to use something like $HOME/bin or >hard-code like /home/myusername/bin. Apparently ~ was not interpreted. >I checked and it seemed that I got this setting from /etc/login.conf >(part shown here): > >default:\ >        :passwd_format=sha512:\ >        :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ >        :welcome=/var/run/motd:\ >        :setenv=BLOCKSIZE=K:\ >        :mail=/var/mail/$:\ >        :path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/local/sbin >/usr/local/bin ~/bin:\ I use ~/bin that way, and it's interpreted -- it shows up as /home/myusername/bin in the environment variable PATH. /etc/login.conf (and ~/.login.conf) have to be converted into databases by cap_mkdb(1). That's documented in the man page login.conf(5) -- documented eventually, down a page or so. Is that database present, in /etc/login.conf.db? 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Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From nobody Tue Oct 17 04:14:58 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S8gcc5nWCz4x12c for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 04:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S8gcb5ZD8z3cbx for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 04:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b="EdrVFGj/"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paulbeard@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::62b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paulbeard@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-9ada2e6e75fso917732166b.2 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 21:15:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697516110; x=1698120910; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=UbdQhkGBM3LAilI3tkeW5DAG03UtiZqUE6FhLG0DAj8=; b=EdrVFGj/N3sE6J3vWnHn6kYv6DZofMpLN08DpTeXIAJUm7iBD+iS6GyUYZs/6VnbRL PkhTx0Tc8U87qHgRnNgcn0sKLa1t+mXdLzxkpldyjnJsAzyWSUEqo5Di+aJZ56PRjTe7 vXFxZik5k6s5th+P7kO7OkH+vs/HYaPayoF+qzNfP+ECMfH092iJQyCBx6v3wP389M9b AvkxIs/cMBD2ZwKUW2PyCVJ2Y7ShroHD81UulxQLOoVCU4y6UHdT3Pdo2hyoBP6vydZg EAd/kFZg7Kfl7xiVBy/JxD7+aJEM0LqP7jbRSeLhClgWhaagFnbrDxysH+7MLNftV1dj 0eMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697516110; x=1698120910; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=UbdQhkGBM3LAilI3tkeW5DAG03UtiZqUE6FhLG0DAj8=; b=kFWiRrwZmRSyXAs+t6Ic4Kom8YCwYApzZjkcdBgLP2QX1jkbB+V25vuoiTBPUSKOl3 r1WeRfzX+SrQPq58y2jTOAaAm0AYhnv+j+6vVhFIyrcmWKpyaSiyD2iFIMgRHkI2z9ps ZjR0h5KpYwaTb15oZTDCL2bkhPOwtNL7ubVX8swZkkzv2Vu6/HKmlRYg+3rWwhXfjvLs UbV6iLCj8GYINSSjd0y0QbXCtwlBVFrjCWS18htmmq1hocidRZXtr19dkt0RlpnEKs53 2EosKleHkaTd7cDLB/EDp2uITp2MzvgbiXyqcWRGmcykLAtxJEkKWZ3MsQ1c3iXB9xu8 ertA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxZz55czeobE/XTFEIEI2qlWTF5t4WXTi7NT/VngMGx7wbIycXR KOAVft+CHAih5WIU0FjCE7dtpDhsVvdxRvDnLRwak1cqqxU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFrX+jYyGSJq1SKdU7e0s9Wr9YQAXXztAaSrxgYNqeXAmhP80d2OgFGJG2rzjtSVwWx2UBgoM4s6CS55bW7LJA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:1c98:b0:9b2:d78c:afe9 with SMTP id nb24-20020a1709071c9800b009b2d78cafe9mr903595ejc.49.1697516109808; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 21:15:09 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: paul beard Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 21:14:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to reinstall *ALL* pkgs To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b9c77f0607e1c435" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62b:from]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S8gcb5ZD8z3cbx --000000000000b9c77f0607e1c435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have done something like this=E2=80=A6 ls /var/db/pkg/ | sed -r 's/(.*)-[0-9]/\1\ /g' | cut -f1 -d" " and pass that to pkg or to a file to clean it up (the sqlite databases are in there and don't need installing via pkg). I know pkg has all kind of flags and syntax but I can never keep track of it all. On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:53=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I tried pkg upgrade -f and got the following: > > root@neomarx:~ # pkg upgrade -f > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up to date. > All repositories are up to date. > Checking for upgrades (1475 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (1475 candidates): 100% > Checking integrity...Child process pid=3D1821 terminated abnormally: Kill= ed > > How do I proceed from here? > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > --=20 Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --000000000000b9c77f0607e1c435 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have done something like this=E2=80=A6
ls /var/db/pk= g/ | sed -r 's/(.*)-[0-9]/\1\ /g' | cut -f1 -d" " =C2=A0<= br>

and pass that to pkg or to a file to clean it = up (the sqlite databases are in there and don't need installing via pkg= ).=C2=A0

I know pkg has all kind of flags and synt= ax but I can never keep track of it all.=C2=A0

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at= 8:53=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote:
I tr= ied pkg upgrade -f and got the following:

root@neomarx:~ # pkg upgrade -f
Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
FreeBSD repository is up to date.
All repositories are up to date.
Checking for upgrades (1475 candidates): 100%
Processing candidates (1475 candidates): 100%
Checking integrity...Child process pid=3D1821 terminated abnormally: Killed=

How do I proceed from here?

--
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org



--
Pa= ul Beard / www.paul= beard.org/
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However, I found that > ~/bin in my PATH won't work in tcsh as it got "command not found" > error, I have to use something like $HOME/bin or hard-code like > /home/myusername/bin. Apparently ~ was not interpreted. I've never been able to get "~" interpreted as $HOME in my TCSH startup files, so I resort to this in my .tcshrc: # If running with an empty environment, set some basic stuff. if (! $?HOME) then setenv PATH /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin setenv HOME `getent passwd "${LOGNAME}" | cut -f6 -d:` endif # Remaining aliases, prompt, etc. if ( -e $HOME/.cshrc ) then source $HOME/.cshrc endif if ( -e $HOME/.aliases ) then source $HOME/.aliases endif if ( -e $HOME/.envrc.csh ) then source $HOME/.envrc.csh endif # ... -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for anyone but myself Save the trees, wipe your butt with an owl. --bumper sticker From nobody Tue Oct 17 13:43:03 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S8wF33xpkz4xWxp for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jiangjun12321@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.147]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S8wF31d9Hz3KDV for ; 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NB make sure you're in the root /bin/sh & a console, not an (x)term as this will remove *all* packages, including xorg window manager, preferred shell etc. # pkg prime-origins | sort | uniq > /etc/packages.lst ### edit and amend as required ### force-delete all existing packages, rebootstrap & install # pkg delete -fy \* # pkg bootstrap -f # pkg install -r FreeBSD `cat /etc/packages.lst` A+ Dave From nobody Tue Oct 17 22:49:04 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S98L06mQ6z4x7q8 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@hotmail.com) Received: from NAM11-BN8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn8nam11olkn2010.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.20.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "DigiCert Cloud Services CA-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S98L00TKyz3gMM for ; 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The sqlite databases are where the packages are listed for current FreeBSD installations; perhaps you still have the old entries predating pkgng (wasn't it pkg_* commands back then?) As a result, I would not trust those entries outside the database files to be up to date. I recommend keeping a list of packages you installed separately. Manually requesting all packages be reinstalled should leave all of them marked with their autoremove flag set to 0; `pkg autoremove` will see them as all intentionally installed and weren't just brought in to be a dependency so will always be kept around. That can be changed with `pkg set -A 0` (or 1 if you want it to think it was just brought in as a dependency you otherwise don't want to keep if unneeded). If not polluted by "remove and reinstall all packages by list of currently installed packages" then you can create a list of packages you installed with `pkg query -e '%a = 0' %o`. See pkg(8) and its pkg-* related manpages it has as 'see also' have examples to lead you down that route. If you haven't maintained that list or just want a list of packages that have nothing depending on them try `pkg prime-origins > /root/prime-origins` then consider if there are any 'missing' programs you want to guarantee are not removed if dependency branching changes in the future; you can manually add them to this list. The equivalent list but including all packages is `pkg origin` (why the plurality change on the commands?). > I know pkg has all kind of flags and syntax but I can never keep track of > it all. > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:53 PM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > >> I tried pkg upgrade -f and got the following: >> >> root@neomarx:~ # pkg upgrade -f >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up to date. >> All repositories are up to date. >> Checking for upgrades (1475 candidates): 100% >> Processing candidates (1475 candidates): 100% >> Checking integrity...Child process pid=1821 terminated abnormally: Killed >> >> How do I proceed from here? There was a post on the forums from 2018 recommending `pkg-static install -f pkg;pkg upgrade -f` and the user said they also had to increase their swap space to succeed. Depending on the package and the parameters it is created with, some do take a lot of RAM to process; I mostly made my own from poudriere and usually maximized compression figuring with 32GB RAM that xz high memory use would be fine. If still not working and in case no one has a better suggestion, my plan would have been to try creating a list of packages in case you don't have it already, remove all packages, and reinstall all packages. If pkg commands are failing, I don't know if uninstall could be performed cleanly without better understanding the pkg database format to manually read/confirm steps are happening. Another thing that could be worthwhile is trying to see if failures can be spotted with `pkg check -an` with additional flags -dsv may help narrow down some problems. >> -- >> Aryeh M. 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FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.816]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f400::/48]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S98r94GDqz4FYw On 10/17/23 09:01, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023, at 04:14, paul beard wrote: >> I have done something like this… >> ls /var/db/pkg/ | sed -r 's/(.*)-[0-9]/\1\ /g' | cut -f1 -d" " >> >> and pass that to pkg or to a file to clean it up (the sqlite databases >> are in there and don't need installing via pkg). > > I use this to track only the leaf packages, what's explicitly been installed > and the others will be pulled in automatically. > > NB make sure you're in the root /bin/sh & a console, not an (x)term > as this will remove *all* packages, including xorg window manager, > preferred shell etc. > > # pkg prime-origins | sort | uniq > /etc/packages.lst > ### edit and amend as required For that list, removals should be only removing packages you no longer want or are no longer offered. Additions would be to add packages you want to guarantee you keep installed even if dependent packages no longer automatically pull it in. `pkg query -e '%a = 0' %o` is the more complete "I installed this" list and will maximize features like `pkg autoremove` until doing an uninstall/reinstall from *origins types of lists where that is no longer guaranteed true and requires manually modifying the automatic flag on each package back to what you want to represent packages you desired are guaranteed installed vs only included if needed as a dependency. > ### force-delete all existing packages, rebootstrap & install > # pkg delete -fy \* > # pkg bootstrap -f > # pkg install -r FreeBSD `cat /etc/packages.lst` > > A+ > Dave > From nobody Wed Oct 18 02:16:29 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S9DxQ6XnNz4xLcM for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 02:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S9DxP4bgSz4WmL for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 02:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=qU6fArF0; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=panix.com Received: from rain.cave (c-73-142-21-0.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.142.21.0]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4S9DxH2sdKz49gm for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:16:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1697595395; bh=5c9fjS6NfJI+C84O60Yk71jl90Mf+k6StY0IhQMfO3c=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=qU6fArF0Hrs4tphXqt1dRt0IrXDMMVDpN8fVeeiwrD39utxhL5+H6E9ZNtrlsaArM ObvkhlYZSX1P2BZzDVxZjpcVZ0Ne3ns2EwJJnzfAdgCmBES+JYJ99KEngkJlC/L24A NqH3bttzDig0pySvwJFBCxFBLPWQhhukwBBk+Gjc= Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:16:29 -0400 From: Kurt Hackenberg To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HOME as ~ in default PATH inherited from /etc/login.conf doesn't work for tcsh Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.09 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[panix.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.1.64/26]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[166.84.1.89:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S9DxP4bgSz4WmL On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:43:03PM +0800, Jackie wrote: >What shell are you using as default? Can you confirm that you didn't >set PATH in any other dot files or in /etc files? I use bash, and set PATH in ~/.login_conf. However, I can't reproduce your problem. I moved aside ~/.login_conf and its .db, changed my login shell to tcsh, logged out and in, and got the PATH from /etc/login.conf, with ~/bin expanded. So I don't know what's going on. I did this with FreeBSD 13.2 and tcsh 6.22.04, which apparently comes with base FreeBSD (it's in /bin). Runnings "strings" on /etc/login.conf.db shows :path=...~/bin:, so the expansion is not done when converting the text file to a database. I guess it's done during login or shell startup. I run X and log in through xdm. Maybe logging in some other way -- console? -- behaves differently? 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amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S9Jpj2Xl7z3GM9 On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:11:46 -0700 "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" wrote: > `pkg query -e '%a = 0' %o` is the more complete "I installed this" I usually use pkg leaf which expands to pkg query -e '%#r == 0' '%n-%v' -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From nobody Wed Oct 18 05:28:18 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S9KBt2NS4z4xXVt for ; 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4S9TZt4HT4z4RTL On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 01:28:18PM +0800, Jackie wrote: > I was using a desktop running the same version of FreeBSD. Although I use > lightdm to login to a MATE desktop environment. Will do more tests tonight when > I get home. > lightdm doesn't look at login.conf. There is already a relatively recent bug report with your problem: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273720 And an older discussion with a patch: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=266532 -- Best regards, Daniel From nobody Wed Oct 18 11:46:27 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S9TZv1fRmz4xtkJ; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamelingdaniel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52f.google.com (mail-ed1-x52f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S9TZt4HT4z4RTL; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamelingdaniel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.935]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::52f:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org,FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S9TZt4HT4z4RTL On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 01:28:18PM +0800, Jackie wrote: > I was using a desktop running the same version of FreeBSD. Although I use > lightdm to login to a MATE desktop environment. Will do more tests tonight when > I get home. > lightdm doesn't look at login.conf. 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Manually installed packages that currently have dependencies are not listed by `pkg leaf`. How many packages are out of date vs moved but correct version at time of update changes how many edits are necessary. As the original goal was to remove+reinstall all packages to install the up to date and functioning copies, either case needs to be considered as pkg cannot auto handle either when it is two separate steps of remove+reinstall. 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amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S9Wbf2Lsxz4dj8 On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 05:20:06 -0700 "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" wrote: > On 10/17/23 22:10, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:11:46 -0700 > > "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" wrote: > > > >> `pkg query -e '%a = 0' %o` is the more complete "I installed this" > > To correct myself, `pkg prime-origins` is the same as `pkg query -e '%a > = 0' %o` on my system with v1.20.8; `pkg alias` reveals that; could have > sworn there was a difference somewhere. prime-origins seems to return > manually installed nonleaf packages The %a = 0 clause means that it returns all packages that are not marked as auto installed so yes it will indeed return manually installed non-leaf packages. > > I usually use pkg leaf which expands to > > > > pkg query -e '%#r == 0' '%n-%v' > > The %#r == 0 clause means that it will return all packages that nothing depends on. > `pkg leaf` includes package version #s and pkg doesn't check for True - I usually wind up removing the version bit which is a PITA. pkg-prime-origins also includes the category. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/ Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency From nobody Thu Oct 19 06:18:17 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S9yFz5XBYz4y2PD for ; 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I did two different tests. > > First I pkg install slim and XDM as my login managers / display managers. > I did not have a ~/.xinitrc file so slim just say failed to execute login > command. In case the C shell is your login shell, and you use a display manager (or "text mode" login first, then "startx"), the following approach might be helpful: First, ~/.xsession: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc This will obviously source your user-local settings for the C shell, as well as those that might already be global in /etc/csh.cshrc, in where I have this: set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /opt/bin $HOME/bin) However, using ~/bin istead of $HOME/bin should also work. Then, in ~/.xinitrc, put your actual X initialization commands, like this: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc numlockx xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 & xset r rate 250 30 & xset s off & xset -dpms & exec wmaker The last line, starting with "exec", easily determines which window manager or desktop environment you want. If you need localized keyboard settings, use a X config file in /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ for this, so it will be in effect no matter which window manager or desktop environment you are using (except of course it knows better than you and overrides your global setting because stupid). Advantage: The X session will pick up your C shell settings, no matter how it will be started, and you don't need to have to maintain two "synchronized" X startup files. I'm using this for decades (with xdm). The #! lines aren't actually neccessary, but they tell you what "language" the files are written in. ;-) Disadvantage: This is C shell specific and does _not_ work for other shells you might use interactively or as login shell (such as sh, bash, zsh, ksh). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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remove/disable renegotiation capabilities To: FreeBSD References: <54c94101-0930-dddf-4d66-1516b6d870b1@webtent.org> From: Robert Fitzpatrick Message-ID: <333aa0a9-c0ba-b29c-780d-359016dd31de@webtent.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:27:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.60 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <54c94101-0930-dddf-4d66-1516b6d870b1@webtent.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4D15F58DC8D9DF92BF8F32C9" Content-Language: en-US X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.4_3 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.56 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_BASE64_TEXT_BOGUS(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.959]; 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Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:18 AM > As a result of a recent vulnerability scan using the GVM 22.4 scanning > FreeBSD 13.2, it is recommended to remove/disable renegotiation > capabilities altogether from/in the affected SSL/TLS service for a > MEDIUM vulnerability CVE-2011-1473. Looking further t the CVE shows > DISPUTED, furthermore, it looks like our version of OpenSSL is not > affected? robert@gvm:~$ openssl version OpenSSL 3.0.2 15 Mar 2022 > (Library: OpenSSL 3.0.2 15 Mar 2022) CVE: > http://cve.circl.lu/cve/CVE-2011-1473 The host manager of the FreeBSD > VM will want this mitigated, how could I apply the > |SSL_OP_NO_RENEGOTIATION|option to openssl or other solution? 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Trying to find what I may be doing wrong, a patter that seems to emerge, is, that if names longer than 14Bytes are not supported. Maybe the " make up for the missing bytes up to 16. F.e.: ifconfig_epair6a_name="jail_template_local" does not work. The interface names remaines epair6a. Is that documented anywhere? Or can anyone confirm this limit on solid grounds? Just to make sure I have not done anything other wrong. 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To: listac@nebelschwaden.de Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000074fbf506082c1a21" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SBxhM0FQbz4WWh --00000000000074fbf506082c1a21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM Ede Wolf = wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to rename a couple of interfaces, and it works for some, for > others not. > > Trying to find what I may be doing wrong, a patter that seems to emerge, > is, that if names longer than 14Bytes are not supported. Maybe the " > make up for the missing bytes up to 16. > > F.e.: > > ifconfig_epair6a_name=3D"jail_template_local" > > does not work. The interface names remaines epair6a. > Is that documented anywhere? > > Or can anyone confirm this limit on solid grounds? Just to make sure I > have not done anything other wrong. > > Thanks > > Ede > > It's defined as 16 bytes. "/* * Length of interface external name, including terminating '\0'. * Note: this is the same size as a generic device's external name. */ #define IF_NAMESIZE 16 #if __BSD_VISIBLE #define IFNAMSIZ IF_NAMESIZE" ~Paul --=20 __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --00000000000074fbf506082c1a21 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:31=E2= =80=AFPM Ede Wolf <listac@neb= elschwaden.de> wrote:
Hello,

I am trying to rename a couple of interfaces, and it works for some, for others not.

Trying to find what I may be doing wrong, a patter that seems to emerge, is, that if names longer than 14Bytes are not supported. Maybe the " <= br> make up for the missing bytes up to 16.

F.e.:

ifconfig_epair6a_name=3D"jail_template_local"

does not work. The interface names remaines epair6a.
Is that documented anywhere?

Or can anyone confirm this limit on solid grounds? Just to make sure I
have not done anything other wrong.

Thanks

Ede


It's defined as 16 bytes.<= br>
"/*
=C2=A0* Length of interface external name, including ter= minating '\0'.
=C2=A0* Note: this is the same size as a generic = device's external name.
=C2=A0*/
#define =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 IF_NAMESIZE =C2=A0 =C2=A0 16
#if __BSD_VISIBLE
#define =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IFNAMSIZ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IF_NAMESIZE"
=
~Paul

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--00000000000074fbf506082c1a21-- From nobody Fri Oct 20 21:36:23 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SByZl3Ftfz4yG04 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 21:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listac@nebelschwaden.de) Received: from mail.worldserver.net (mail.worldserver.net [217.13.200.36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.worldserver.net", Issuer "EuropeanSSL Server CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SByZl0lWxz4ct6 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 21:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listac@nebelschwaden.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from postpony.nebelschwaden.de (v22018114346177759.hotsrv.de [194.55.14.20]) (Authenticated sender: sendmail@nebelschwaden.de) by mail.worldserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69B161E0B40; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:36:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nebelschwaden.de; s=1687803001; t=1697837784; bh=FoohZS7KkvffKhOTMWhS5jPcL91F3JYDKwOkHXBxDVk=; h=Date:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=lmyXrEDH9MtDtUPALAcPe88Ak10ojpF49H9WwQwIc/1pLuEUYDFetXSVnghArpcfo bQhzYckrEwuID1DoXSEbJYAGiwblU1nbzJroD2EQh9wVRD8fwjXqqqTXrPVI9VaryM 8iIEQUWWo9Stdhn7shSAx5Qj1rkIaPdSFkwlobak7gSxGot3OOlQYU5losNrHUaC/q 6XJkceCXW49B30a31teUnh27gH/kSDQ1CsEUG8g+ywwsCKXPPbZS1+WA4K7GGX1Ks6 rlwG6verox/FJw36U8/DLBZjrpNPXEKBlR8xjt8PN3pUGlVkhlK8sOdiATLb0yjXiy 2M4g+0cWZS69A== Received: from [172.16.37.5] (kaperfahrt.nebelschwaden.de [172.16.37.5]) by postpony.nebelschwaden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B399114C09; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:36:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3b2c44f1-2b5b-482f-972b-5a273203db9b@nebelschwaden.de> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:36:23 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Reply-To: listac@nebelschwaden.de Subject: Re: limit of network interface name length? To: Paul Procacci Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <827d9e2e-5416-42ca-9ee1-dde398a23b21@nebelschwaden.de> Content-Language: en-US From: Ede Wolf In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15657, ipnet:217.13.192.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SByZl0lWxz4ct6 Thanks very much! Am 20.10.23 um 22:56 schrieb Paul Procacci: > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:31 PM Ede Wolf > wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to rename a couple of interfaces, and it works for some, > for > others not. > > Trying to find what I may be doing wrong, a patter that seems to > emerge, > is, that if names longer than 14Bytes are not supported. Maybe the " > make up for the missing bytes up to 16. > > F.e.: > > ifconfig_epair6a_name="jail_template_local" > > does not work. The interface names remaines epair6a. > Is that documented anywhere? > > Or can anyone confirm this limit on solid grounds? Just to make sure I > have not done anything other wrong. > > Thanks > > Ede > > > It's defined as 16 bytes. > > "/* >  * Length of interface external name, including terminating '\0'. >  * Note: this is the same size as a generic device's external name. >  */ > #define         IF_NAMESIZE     16 > #if __BSD_VISIBLE > #define         IFNAMSIZ        IF_NAMESIZE" > > ~Paul > > -- > __________________ > > :(){ :|:& };: From nobody Fri Oct 20 22:55:56 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SC0KN60Bcz4yKHN for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 22:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf33.google.com (mail-qv1-xf33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SC0KM50T0z3J5q for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 22:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b="B//Eg+3a"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wfdudley@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wfdudley@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-qv1-xf33.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-66d17fd450aso20771536d6.1 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:55:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697842502; x=1698447302; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CuMiyof9RiEyMp+VG6RfYScChWrFNQltsVDNuXl03AA=; b=B//Eg+3au8Nfi06FRPRP3BxYtcAvqg3j4/D2i5IhbRBFhYwX1p7t/bvykXU9VRxwsJ NPy8/e/xim6p4NRU8PZ6PyCNtzXbICx/i+RtMjvmPsB5KnIQwLhWILKR4ixIMDz1Ofuz FcJG+koXEZSjvhy8rM43XtiZ+Re3T9h0Id4D1L3vSNolRSwBFJPovPUbbVeNijNSADiD y24LtOr+BuoA2PHPOA+so+pz7qjiZzzSLiGGJUk4L7Ce0yQl2MfGdCQAAPUXWS/kaCRn SiEEk/BDdwMfb//+z/XAX9gxtJeZBx3WT3jd0uqpqj/UCiD7UtBwQGfPP2Y8/rSOk2yQ qt9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697842502; x=1698447302; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CuMiyof9RiEyMp+VG6RfYScChWrFNQltsVDNuXl03AA=; b=kqdRv/0GV3JnNeba02M79UPyIwIjhpr64jqCLxCvIIi8is4u4e+mag/nN/2Uun9SPJ 0tqZDrSPZ6ly/Ktk3rNIj8cF/tqIUFwuc6d5jRTYUgBJRF0+5uE13dH29LCkj77hlqPB Mqhv/MZfymovxjJYe+Leamdo7nCbaSrdEKHmggyxvIKkrWkHpXcE1/YRhaJuphpIf/K9 7s1V1JaiurY0UQh9BdFu+o1kdLG10deGrWzqPQMWt07xF2NFzkLWKQN9v+DKtU4otSH+ z7Lx0z7uNvVTu+q5KvZTBbJIJOlDtg9cBEHeaJuZIyIYhGBEZLuTzTgqk5M2fhH0nFC7 85sA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwlpPO0+aTAuZzZzCsU+O230xH5b7kUlk4FvxlDmZr7vVcUdzXm L53a9tZI4W2u2CqKUgfoDYQlR9PjdPzqEovgEWEEjm1jcfU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHBDH/9eqr7bF/XBHa31WsYIR9zWtnG37bmiFpPh8i6UWVmA/zE9/m+EksO2dYxvpImUlCo3SeasCWMDL8GtOQ= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:fe92:0:b0:66c:fd38:2266 with SMTP id d18-20020a0cfe92000000b0066cfd382266mr8396923qvs.25.1697842502217; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:55:02 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: William Dudley Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 18:55:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: sendmail with TLS To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003ab71006082dc39b" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33:from]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SC0KM50T0z3J5q --0000000000003ab71006082dc39b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm running FreeBSD 13.2 on i386 on my mail server. Some time ago, I built sendmail from ports because "stock" sendmail didn't support TLS (apologies if I have the wrong terminology). Is it still true that stock sendmail doesn't support TLS? In other words, must I continue to build sendmail from ports if I want START_TLS etc. to work? Thanks, Bill Dudley amateur FreeBSD sysadmin (for 20 years) This email is free of malware because I run Linux. --0000000000003ab71006082dc39b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm running FreeBSD 13.2 on i386 on my mail server.
Some time ago, I built sendmail from ports because "s= tock" sendmail
didn't support TLS (apologies if I have the wro= ng terminology).

Is it still true that stock sendm= ail doesn't support TLS?=C2=A0 In other words,
must I continu= e to build sendmail from ports if I want START_TLS etc.
to work?<= /div>

Thanks,
Bill Dudley
amateur Fr= eeBSD sysadmin (for 20 years)
This email is free = of malware because I run Linux.
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To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000012b7806082f42b1" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.92 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.924]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SC2hs5wTwz3TQd --000000000000012b7806082f42b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm in sendmail hell again. Trying to fix broken sendmail because libssl.so.11 disappeared, so my sendmail from ports died. I originally built it from ports to try to shut up this error from stock sendmail: Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSASL) Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL) It would be nice if one didn't have to go through the ports pageant just to get a working sendmail. There's a sendmail pkg. How does one determine what options that was built with, short of installing it and trying it? Is that documented anywhere? The pkg command doesn't seem to have a way to query for that information. Lots of googling has failed to turn up an answer. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run UNIX. --000000000000012b7806082f42b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm in sendmail hell again.=C2=A0 Trying to fix broken= sendmail because
libssl.so.11 disappeared, so my sendmail from ports d= ied.

I originally built it from ports to try to sh= ut up this error from stock sendmail:

Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSAS= L)
Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL)

It would be nice if one didn't have to go through the po= rts pageant
just to get a working sendmail.

There's a sendmail pkg.=C2=A0 How = does one determine what options that
was built with, short of installing it and= trying it?=C2=A0 Is that documented
anywhere?=C2=A0 The pkg command doesn'= t seem to have a way to query
for that information.

Lots of googling has failed to= turn up an answer.

Thanks,
Bill Dudley

This email is free of malwar= e because I run UNIX.
--000000000000012b7806082f42b1-- From nobody Sat Oct 21 03:14:09 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SC64Z5vCBz4xM9K for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 03:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SC64Z1Q5Tz3flv for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 03:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from terra.edvax.de ([178.12.46.17]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [213.165.67.113]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MYN3E-1qxrxI1qRW-00VSRu; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:14:18 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (r56 [10.200.1.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by terra.edvax.de (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPA id 39L3EEAp063047; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:14:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:14:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: William Dudley Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: sendmail with TLS Message-Id: <20231021051409.6a06f084.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4oXadxZNDzEgHM29zMz7q9VukBvU9efCUJnb9XXYYQSxVd9Y+34 ybdVoTzwJ0Tx7ExJ09r3Udxh2xh0DRH3Lr+uhcC9vblshru0t9MfoH+zaxt0G8v18a+n7NV qSPeklFKXz40021MAz2j8Ozl5tDrUSNV0zgEyeHc8zqUYnaa5OttlULuyLfMt4vvlt4HuSA aq7FFEbnvtBzt2HE07lhQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:0iYhLD/aBL0=;G9B+RxAs1H3jISj0ldHfqAO46lM 73EDOT1hFgj1fxleBDXwIUY5GE93h1g4nxd8MRUa16YFC4wa7o+7/h8/Uk3sjUXm+6CC9Rh+3 UkMZpsKi8YLR2yUSKbEnbqHsmSfUI7lld8BcgniNqKe4y6aU+6+on+c0G/6JQC6EVbi3rFeRQ 63V3koajvT3FCxJHp84DfLc0b5tjcqcRd/AsphL6kE/lJz8p7IIL6JKC3PnhTbYe5h+TAgTps 7iwqOKskjfwss2kEPD4PhTluEmOvdMxTq7soEEvMh6A4RWaZ8be98RDlOjWfr/s66A2MzhiW5 3kj4x7UJYoAgPFmZujYC1l33nFGI+X+JckUauwCb2nKhhoD6Y8TFIKK9lega1U1TvQkG0gXq5 4JDHfOJobj3qPevXE3bsdiNQIMhUgf17JiM+Dci9pQemrZeFDH8lw8Wra+hGpx7BEA5duRfs3 kJdGP0B0DL+LMxhlsfVSUWkIrJco6AaBjSPNljwogCustmWdSsY62f+Cl6ZanYQN79WyN5a2v 7iKBg4NTy/p02esPIjYgXwJkDd6EV+zdSJL3rGj0IUeAuQDvIS6ZrmECdK4uQF/XfP+nptQ/c Uis7KtQRQr8/0unkcYhiKjTAKI7i1KbWCZxm4wov7VRWjFzQ7MDigTXvf75Ji7cB1YrdHqaN/ Zt6kNmU0f20vLAEBbohuMpIFZvHjFApqWfXhIu134NnV2g3P3y3qxuQwFlWJ40sxPr2qS8dCr /N+sFCxzcLJ7upBLIZGlP4oIK4fjz2FGAEYbKBo4YoQd05vEYxv/8TNZ3ekaqMZOtiNWBypYd Fmbi9YI2CsHGF48oX3DOIsxipfpsZ9eC/wHxGHfWVofAAL6q/s18vjqcemdEXbrssEceFDnUU vvtpkMlN/2FseUQ== X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SC64Z1Q5Tz3flv On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 18:55:56 -0400, William Dudley wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 13.2 on i386 on my mail server. > > Some time ago, I built sendmail from ports because "stock" sendmail > didn't support TLS (apologies if I have the wrong terminology). Your termini technici are correct. :-) > Is it still true that stock sendmail doesn't support TLS? In other words, > must I continue to build sendmail from ports if I want START_TLS etc. > to work? Why "still"? The default sendmail configuration (as brought by the OS installation) does not include TLS capabilities, but the software itself does, and it does so because the underlying SSL libraries offer it (so it's not directly part of sendmail itself, rather a "library call"). Check your sendmail build options first: # sendmail -d0.1 -bt < /dev/null It should contain STARTTLS, TLS_EC, TLS_VRFY_PER_CTX. It might be possible that you need more stuff, such as SASL. In this case, you need to recompile system sendmail (from /usr/src, with the appropriate options). Check https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mail/#SMTP-Auth In worst case, use Wireshark to determine TLS problems, such as "version too low" or "requires additional auth". Also check your OpenSSL configuration (libssl affected). Determine the actual problem. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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To: William Dudley Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005c6a0a06083164a5" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SC65D2DlKz4BLj --0000000000005c6a0a06083164a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:01=E2=80=AFPM William Dudley wrote: > I'm in sendmail hell again. Trying to fix broken sendmail because > libssl.so.11 disappeared, so my sendmail from ports died. > > > > I originally built it from ports to try to shut up this error from stock > sendmail: > > Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSASL) > Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL) > > It would be nice if one didn't have to go through the ports pageant > just to get a working sendmail. > > There's a sendmail pkg. How does one determine what options that > was built with, short of installing it and trying it? Is that documented > anywhere? The pkg command doesn't seem to have a way to query > for that information. > > Lots of googling has failed to turn up an answer. > > Thanks, > Bill Dudley > > This email is free of malware because I run UNIX. > --=20 __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --0000000000005c6a0a06083164a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:01=E2=80= =AFPM William Dudley <wfdudley@gma= il.com> wrote:
I'm in sendmail hell again.=C2=A0 Trying to fix = broken sendmail because
libssl.so.11 disappeared, so my sendmail from p= orts died.



I originally built it from ports to try to= shut up this error from stock sendmail:

Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSA= SL)
Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL)

It would be nice if one didn't have to go through the p= orts pageant
just to get a working send= mail.

There's a sendmail pkg.=C2=A0 How does one determine what optio= ns that
was built with, short of instal= ling it and trying it?=C2=A0 Is that documented
anywhere?=C2=A0 The pkg command doesn't seem to have a way to = query
for that information.

Lots of g= oogling has failed to turn up an answer.

Thanks,
Bill Dudley

This email is free of malware because= I run UNIX.


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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:= 01=E2=80=AFPM William Dudley <wfdu= dley@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in sendmail hell again.=C2=A0 Trying= to fix broken sendmail because
libssl.so.11 disappeared, so my sendmai= l from ports died.

I originally built it from port= s to try to shut up this error from stock sendmail:

Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL su= pport (-DSASL)
Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSAS= L)

It would be nice if one didn't have to go th= rough the ports pageant
just to get a w= orking sendmail.

There's a sendmail pkg.=C2=A0 How does one determi= ne what options that
was built with, sh= ort of installing it and trying it?=C2=A0 Is that documented
anywhere?=C2=A0 The pkg command doesn't seem to h= ave a way to query
for that information= .

Lots of googling has failed to turn up an answer.

Thanks,
Bill Dudley
This email is free of ma= lware because I run UNIX.


I may or may not have hit se= nd on a previous message.=C2=A0 If I did, sorry.

You want= pkg-query(8).=C2=A0 There's a bunch of options you can get from it'= ;s output.

~Paul
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--000000000000e655e10608316b2b-- From nobody Sat Oct 21 03:21:17 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SC6Dp73j2z4xMmf for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 03:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SC6Dp3cPLz4FvV for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 03:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from terra.edvax.de ([178.12.46.17]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [213.165.67.113]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MSbp1-1r4jny1Dsf-00SxvO; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:21:27 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (r56 [10.200.1.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by terra.edvax.de (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPA id 39L3LM9Q063054; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:21:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:21:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: William Dudley Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: how to tell what options sendmail pkg was built with? Message-Id: <20231021052117.fc1f2c38.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jojv9uodGpF+hxxqKaUP5GJsienrrXSDzx7d5UY+DaypmUNhXbY zP+3JBWBbKonj5BJZmWdgAmsT6JxNYAj3sOMMw5jEcMy5bMUElkzLqo9abdEIvt+NIeIV56 QM+nd4xXKoJVbfTpar2cfv4atyw5+MQ+bSS9N6FSB6+wWdAOiyOAUrsYYeY/okxKypcU//t 5oDUCkV7iRws7lRgoGZ9g== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:pncGu6vsH80=;XtKtd+KuGeJTeHXTEpiTCYHmTVB 5oJrw35yynV/J0PZpRcFF1usv/52+GA8IlJdXrM3yX3JTE4JiqAXKwJKPIpzc2FN6jWwoTnyB odj3Z+GgllPwWC5Uav6ZxYSm8JNCSJ1gOMsRKJi1YwMK9Daw3vdNLSLU5ZmTiregDIvdGEB55 ChX/iwxBFETrmeBk8XqQf+Qa3IeEmiCFPsOQm6eZFZUnypjll8M3xYLxf6hchlS1PY2U7oIOL g/u4pvbHqxVD4xWiyhOC3xQ49TBNdKoZk2YeX5EwA2QkgBwNr5OJxNr15DYQv1GGebJtS/6CW o+B4CTYtChN8QZCCAM/MuDsPWikDTDngGaBgs84kbWaUpZT8yaRCxXNnuVF8BR+K/S9nNXT6R 4ucIaLPoSS08+6xMzEx84CpZRR89nrWMF0Zcr0fJ7rPv4ID6S7WZRZzgQhf4FQ2mCABO7P57e WTKO8esf77e0BFUBet+WSbkyo5OFGYLV6Bj3PSgAtUaKNFDOh71g6Kzj0MKNvQHCIp9YuojxY XJMlkajiJsdkCDYg8Jzh5tbSQAhXN+CxfNj3+FWVWIv5dDtYLrE2Dyto0/5REfcNvbuvGfxFR 83Ky5qCoM7jqnjtTwj9zaRf7nwpNTjNJiZJSc4aAlb3zNDNkLoijDzl78osBUQxECtpFqAZqL ooXnpnf+gR9lR93EdrnDcPo8gW2yfMcwilzJXrI2PyYTHFl4s0Rw8IIag4sLU57gRKtq0OrPI XN5zK9rg8jykCae/hMaHqJL1kXkSSpJG5r9I6QHjNPlP6onKsqicdedzyIDf7et1Hz1AUmm99 by3NKOYfdRNHxLkplYFC2+n1Rl93OHJBDPNUDTa7hSUs13ijB3yMLsrVmQ18gWxfodc/5GEse sE7ltbryQR6Rb3A== X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SC6Dp3cPLz4FvV On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:42:58 -0400, William Dudley wrote: > I'm in sendmail hell again. Trying to fix broken sendmail because > libssl.so.11 disappeared, so my sendmail from ports died. So there are more problems than just sendmail... Try to reinstall OpenSSL (system version). > I originally built it from ports to try to shut up this error from stock > sendmail: > > Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSASL) > Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL) > > It would be nice if one didn't have to go through the ports pageant > just to get a working sendmail. Oh - it seems you want SASL. You want SASL? It's complicated, but possible with system sendmail. 1. Install cyrus-sasl and cyrus-sasl-saslauthd (version 2) from ports or pkg. Default configuration is okay. 2. Add to /etc/make.conf: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDADD=/usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so Note that the Handbook at 30.9 # 4 is _wrong_; this works. https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mail/#SMTP-Aut 3. Recompile system sendmail: # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm # make # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil # make # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail # make # make install 4. Check: Now you have SASL2 support # sendmail -d0.1 -bt < /dev/null Now SASLv2 will be listed. If you actually need SASL to authenticate, start and configure the service accordingly. > There's a sendmail pkg. How does one determine what options that > was built with, short of installing it and trying it? Is that documented > anywhere? The pkg command doesn't seem to have a way to query > for that information. I'd say you find them in the program's Makefile. > Lots of googling has failed to turn up an answer. Yes, that is a trend now... Good luck! Oh, one further thing to check: Your sendmail configuration. If your control file has define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl then maybe just remove the one that requires SASL, if you do not need it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I use it as a firewall with pf and it acts as a backup server with an external 4xdisk USB enclosure for a jail running borg backup. Sometimes I do cache some videos from youtube using yt-dl - this is where it becomes interesting. The box has 4GB of ram (and in loader.conf is vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D268435456 configured), and sometimes yt-dl needs too much memory, the system runs out of memory. The following lines pop up in syslog: swap_pager: cannot allocate bio and many lines like pid 23342 (getty), jid 0, uid 0, was killed: failed to reclaim memory pid 5935 (tmux), jid 0, uid 1001, was killed: failed to reclaim memory pid 14258 (top), jid 0, uid 0, was killed: failed to reclaim memory When I encounter the out of memory situation, I logged in and inspected the system. The system was sluggish and it reported that 0-16 MB RAM was used., I saw that only basic system services are running [1]. Starting top tells me that "Free" memory is ~ 800MB, and constantly declining: Mem: 8816K Active, 11M Inact, 3344M Wired, 548M Free top -o res shows me top the process (18 processes: 1 running, 17 sleeping) occupying the most memory (~3MB): 78154 root 1 20 0 14M 3172K CPU3 3 0:00 0.17% top I can just watch the systems wired memory going up until everything is dying. Disabling and re-enabling swap has no effect. Top is killed after about 2 minutes, and I am kicked out. I can login again shortly after, but the same situation happens again: Free memory going down and Wired going up. PF continues to work but I cannot start a backup or any file operation because they just die after a short while. Has someone an idea to debug this ... or a workaround? Thanks for sharing your ideas! Robert [1]ps auxwww: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 11 198.5 0.0 0 64 - RNL Sun18 19955:10.62 [idle] root 0 101.2 0.1 0 2832 - DLs Sun18 7354:27.71 [kernel] root 5 100.0 0.1 0 2080 - RL Sun18 1307:50.45 [zfskern] root 44547 2.1 0.1 14908 2800 0 S 10:41 0:00.11 bash root 7 1.0 0.0 0 48 - DL Sun18 3:47.38 [pagedaemo= n] robert 42128 0.9 0.1 21508 2112 - S 10:41 0:00.06 sshd: robert@pts/0 (sshd) root 41079 0.7 0.0 21508 1584 - Ss 10:41 0:00.26 sshd: robert [priv] (sshd) root 1 0.0 0.0 11768 36 - SLs Sun18 0:02.07 /sbin/init root 2 0.0 0.0 0 64 - DL Sun18 0:00.00 [KTLS] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 80 - DL Sun18 0:00.00 [crypto] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 32 - DL Sun18 86:34.52 [cam] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 1:28.84 [rand_harvestq] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 1:47.46 [vmdaemon] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 48 - DL Sun18 0:19.60 [bufdaemon= ] root 10 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:00.00 [audit] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 240 - WL Sun18 98:16.01 [intr] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 48 - DL Sun18 0:00.92 [geom] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:00.00 [sequencer 00] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 160 - DL Sun18 126:23.98 [usb] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:12.04 [acpi_thermal] root 17 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:07.64 [vnlru] root 18 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:21.84 [syncer] root 19 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 7:37.35 [racctd] root 1265 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 156:54.73 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd001] root 1537 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 158:36.95 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd001] root 1934 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 161:37.98 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd001] root 2196 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 159:34.59 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd001] root 3057 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 157:32.36 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd002] root 3334 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 159:15.82 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd002] root 3574 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:00.25 [aiod1] root 3751 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 161:45.95 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd002] root 3889 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:00.24 [aiod2] root 4138 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:00.25 [aiod3] root 4252 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 160:35.16 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd002] root 4397 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 0:00.24 [aiod4] root 5008 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 156:54.76 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd011] root 5009 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 158:16.99 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd011] root 5457 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 161:03.34 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd011] root 5929 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 159:37.17 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd011] root 9001 0.0 0.0 21068 328 - Ss Sun18 0:00.25 sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd [listener] 0 of 10-100 startups (sshd) root 10008 0.0 0.0 12908 4 - IWs - 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/cron -s root 43429 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 11:45.45 [pf purge] root 78988 0.0 0.0 12868 300 - Ss Sun18 0:17.57 /usr/sbin/syslogd -ss root 84156 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 35:19.32 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd037] root 84470 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 35:53.31 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd037] root 85309 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 38:08.91 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd037] root 86045 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:08.59 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd037] root 86051 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 35:51.55 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd038] root 86644 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 36:03.03 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd038] root 87199 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:56.77 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd038] root 87235 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:21.79 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd038] root 87490 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 35:39.81 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd039] root 87546 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 35:43.55 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd039] root 87988 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 38:05.54 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd039] root 88507 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:06.09 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd039] root 88536 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 35:28.86 [g_eli[0] gpt/hd040] root 89143 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:09.63 [g_eli[1] gpt/hd040] root 89723 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:56.60 [g_eli[2] gpt/hd040] root 90441 0.0 0.0 0 16 - DL Sun18 37:08.54 [g_eli[3] gpt/hd040] root 97972 0.0 0.0 12836 36 u0 Is+ 10:22 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty 3wire ttyu0 root 34488 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v0 Is+ 10:39 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 root 97710 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v1 Is+ 10:22 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 root 33736 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v2 Is+ 10:38 0:00.02 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 root 22 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v3 Is+ 10:25 0:00.02 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 root 34562 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v4 Is+ 10:39 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 root 33901 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v5 Is+ 10:39 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 root 20 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v6 Is+ 06:06 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 root 21 0.0 0.0 12836 36 v7 Is+ 07:12 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 robert 42985 0.0 0.0 13580 4 0 SWs - 0:00.00 -sh (sh) robert 43832 0.0 0.0 14908 4 0 SW - 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/bash root 45136 0.0 0.1 13444 2160 0 R+ 10:41 0:00.02 ps auxwww From nobody Sat Oct 21 09:09:55 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SCFz11Cq1z4xl0g for ; 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Sat, 21 Oct 2023 10:09:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 10:09:55 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memory issue - bug? 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Disabling and re-enabling swap has no effect. Top is killed after Are you using a tmpfs for /tmp ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith