From nobody Mon Sep 16 08:34:47 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6dWy2glXz5Wmp3 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Received: from mail2.paztec.nl (mail2.paztec.nl [IPv6:2001:1af8:4700:a116:1::42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail2.paztec.nl", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6dWx20jFz4Y3p for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=vanderzwan.org header.s=default header.b=WtHdJzr3; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=vanderzwan.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@vanderzwan.org designates 2001:1af8:4700:a116:1::42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@vanderzwan.org Received-SPF: pass (mail2.paztec.nl: 87.212.167.108 is whitelisted) receiver=mail2.paztec.nl; client-ip=87.212.167.108; helo=smtpclient.apple; envelope-from=freebsd@vanderzwan.org; x-software=spfmilter 2.001 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2-1.2.11; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=vanderzwan.org; s=default; t=1726475698; bh=ienk5WjlEdyx8q8bRFy7YJvKfwzIMkBomWgXZPsgdYE=; h=From:Subject:Date:To; b=WtHdJzr36AbjXvmQxlF/eQORK6eRDWP26cg+/tfxEz+ULFIYBKPgAnUmYSGEASKp3 rGC/RZQLBL7wzWjYVqHCYS6yv7mCgJ90hilYZ11mT9gsUjRaJAJD6SXb6wNyisbWjo RGcTnDISMG1GY8JkOA6P0S7DkOCnSctcNQpgKl4Vg8zs7sCoooyYR853Gligca6q7W 1NDVnFUw+0UuT7cr9Y/TXe09OCmDC4InPrOJQqEMsZcuJuwyourNFSm04Fw+EIx2vz oOu8ixorm03RfJPiS2XbuBbU+nCdEFf/C42mCiDO2tLM1Uw9HpKG/XFnOnPV0kHJLg FjAc8EytdEH+w== Received: from smtpclient.apple (thuisodido [87.212.167.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.paztec.nl (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPSA id 48G8YvkT087672 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:34:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vps4.vanderzwan.org: Host thuisodido [87.212.167.108] claimed to be smtpclient.apple From: freebsd@vanderzwan.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51\)) Subject: FreeBSD 14.1 pf unexpectedly blocking some packets Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:34:47 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[vanderzwan.org,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[vanderzwan.org:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[vanderzwan.org:+]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:60781, ipnet:2001:1af8::/32, country:NL]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6dWx20jFz4Y3p Hi I am seeing things in the pf logs on my VPS I cannot explain. I have this rule in pf.conf to allow any traffic from my home network: # Admin in pass in quick on $ext_if from to any And later in the conf I have the default block rule: # Drop ALL incoming everything block in log all label "blockall" ridentifier 10 For some reason I see packets that should be allowed hit the blockall = rule. Protocol is ssh or imaps but what they have in common is that those = blocked packets have the P flag set: 2024-09-16 06:08:34.840045 rule 14/0(match) [ridentifier 10]: block in = on vtnet0: (tos 0x48, ttl 54, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], proto TCP = (6), length 108) CLIENT.56765 > SERVER.ssh: Flags [P.], seq 0:56, ack 1, win 2048, = options [nop,nop,TS [|tcp]> 2024-09-16 06:08:38.623327 rule 14/0(match) [ridentifier 10]: block in = on vtnet0: (tos 0x48, ttl 54, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], proto TCP = (6), length 40) CLIENT.56765 > SERVER.ssh: Flags [R.], seq 56, ack 1, win 2048, = length 0 2024-09-16 06:59:30.517110 rule 14/0(match) [ridentifier 10]: block in = on vtnet0: (tos 0x0, ttl 54, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), = length 87) CLIENT.61732 > SERVER.imaps: Flags [P.], seq 2451382428:2451382463, = ack 3832587464, win 68, options [nop,nop,TS [|tcp]> 2024-09-16 06:59:30.517379 rule 14/0(match) [ridentifier 10]: block in = on vtnet0: (tos 0x0, ttl 54, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), = length 87) I don=E2=80=99t see anything strange on the client. Everything seems to = work normally. Any explanation for this ? And an option to allow those packets. From nobody Mon Sep 16 09:45:08 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6g4s6CR5z5X02L for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6g4r757xz4hYJ for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.18.1/8.17.2) with ESMTPSA id 48G9j8ZK079875 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:45:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:45:08 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Suggestions for mail client To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.79 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6g4r757xz4hYJ Hello. I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the last 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with specific big troubles in some areas), but I resisted. Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to another or from one message to another takes seconds (so just skimming the messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds the time it did until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes about 5 seconds, marking 50 messages as read takes close to one minute, etc...). Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years ago, it's time to move on to something else. In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly others I might have missed. I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course I could try them all, but it would take days of work. So I'm asking here for a suggestion... What I absolutely need: _ close to perfect IMAP support; _ IMAP tags/labels; _ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10 daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; _ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached messages (for others); _ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); _ CardDAV support; _ good searching; _ performance, stability, future support, etc... What I'd like: _ newsgroups support; _ RSS; _ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs, still...): _ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I use XFCE); _ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing). What I don't care about: _ message filters; _ antispam (as I manage them both server side); _ "modern" interface. Any hint? bye & Thanks av. 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Mon, 16 Sep 2024 16:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:42:58 -0400 From: LuMiWa To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: <20240916104258.367e66e5@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.21.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:159.69.191.136]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[159.69.191.136:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6nhS6djVz46Kf On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:45:08 +0200 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. >=20 > I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the > last 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with > specific big troubles in some areas), but I resisted. > Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to > another or from one message to another takes seconds (so just > skimming the messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds > the time it did until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes > about 5 seconds, marking 50 messages as read takes close to one > minute, etc...). >=20 > Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of=20 > criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something=20 > else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years > ago, it's time to move on to something else. >=20 >=20 >=20 > In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly=20 > others I might have missed. > I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course > I could try them all, but it would take days of work. > So I'm asking here for a suggestion... >=20 >=20 > What I absolutely need: > _ close to perfect IMAP support; > _ IMAP tags/labels; > _ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than > 10 daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional > use; _ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local > cached messages (for others); > _ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); > _ CardDAV support; > _ good searching; > _ performance, stability, future support, etc... >=20 > What I'd like: > _ newsgroups support; > _ RSS; > _ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs,=20 > still...): > _ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I > use XFCE); > _ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing). >=20 > What I don't care about: > _ message filters; > _ antispam (as I manage them both server side); > _ "modern" interface. >=20 > Any hint? >=20 > bye & Thanks > av. >=20 I am using claws mail: https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/General_Information --=20 =E2=80=9CI hate books; they only teach us to talk about things we know noth= ing about.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Jean-Jacques Rousseau=20 From nobody Mon Sep 16 15:17:12 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6pRw4htHz5WFyh for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6pRv4NLgz4Hks for ; 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.67 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.12)[0.120]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6pRv4NLgz4Hks Hello. I've got some trouble with Samba (if interested, see [1] for details). One of the aspect is that, with vfs_full_audit, it seems to log so much that syslogd cannot keep up (or at least it's what I think is happening). Samba opens /var/run/log and start sending *a lot* of data, eventually getting errno=55/ENOBUFS/No buffer space available. The machine isn't exactly "slow" (RAIDZ1 on SSD enterprise), although it's also performing other tasks. Apart from correcting Samba, is there something that can be done on the OS side? Syslogd tweaking? Better buffering? Blocking the socket instead of returnin ENOBUFS, etc...? bye & Thanks av. [1] https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15711 From nobody Mon Sep 16 15:41:14 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6pzn72Dhz5WJ9D for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6pzn2W4Mz4Lv5 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=nlb1a5kh; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=panix.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com Received: from rain.cave (c-73-60-194-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.60.194.75]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4X6pzg3QQTz8bY for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:41:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1726501279; bh=wuk0CIs4ghKYWAhsibtg+f5p8so+FS6jlN91znovaJk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=nlb1a5khoPDu/ShF6S5LaPI7zN2GkkoIg6XZ+Pmg3WV4PMVM6wJZsbRUzPw2jc+vs zwlaeDJ3qrYiNwI/3ZaqlL5aKRzh9a1pKwxWev1a1nNmVWPGlAlE4DSKcxGqBcFnB2 ZUpQQWbuS2AuDngsyN2GFhG3OTCFkV2a/4f9Uflw= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:41:14 -0400 From: Kurt Hackenberg To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.09 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[panix.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.1.64/26]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[166.84.1.89:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6pzn2W4Mz4Lv5 On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:45:08AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the >last 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness... ... >_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than >10 daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; ... >_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); That's a lot of mail. Have you experimented with Thunderbird's cache settings? There are some in the GUI (Settings->General->Disk Space), and more available through the config editor. From nobody Mon Sep 16 18:39:24 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6txF06DDz5Wfn3 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 18:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6txC6Wgdz4f36 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 18:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.18.1/8.17.2) with ESMTPSA id 48GIdOF1095846 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:39:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:39:24 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Panic on NFS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.82 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.03)[-0.033]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6txC6Wgdz4f36 Hello. A server of mine just hanged (I don't know why). After an hardware reset, it booted properly, but then had a panic: > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: panic: VERIFY0(VOP_LOOKUP(dvp, vpp, &cn)) failed (0 == 2) > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: cpuid = 6 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: time = 1726510500 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2b/frame 0xfffffe013ed96670 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: vpanic() at vpanic+0x131/frame 0xfffffe013ed967a0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: spl_panic() at spl_panic+0x3a/frame 0xfffffe013ed96800 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: zfs_fhtovp() at zfs_fhtovp+0x493/frame 0xfffffe013ed968b0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: nullfs_fhtovp() at nullfs_fhtovp+0x1e/frame 0xfffffe013ed968d0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: nfsvno_fhtovp() at nfsvno_fhtovp+0x3d/frame 0xfffffe013ed96910 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: nfsd_fhtovp() at nfsd_fhtovp+0xcf/frame 0xfffffe013ed96970 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: nfsrvd_dorpc() at nfsrvd_dorpc+0xeee/frame 0xfffffe013ed96bb0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: nfssvc_program() at nfssvc_program+0x7be/frame 0xfffffe013ed96da0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: svc_run_internal() at svc_run_internal+0xbc0/frame 0xfffffe013ed96ee0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: svc_thread_start() at svc_thread_start+0xb/frame 0xfffffe013ed96ef0 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x7f/frame 0xfffffe013ed96f30 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe/frame 0xfffffe013ed96f30 > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: --- trap 0xc, rip = 0x25d49f184c8a, rsp = 0x25d49e2946f8, rbp = 0x25d49e294990 --- > Sep 16 20:16:17 xxxx kernel: Uptime: 6m50s This is a 14.1p4 NFS server (amongst other things). A quick search in bugzilla turned up nothing useful. Any insight? Any suggestion to prevent it from happening again? Is this worth reporting? Unfortunately I got no crash dump (although I think I should). bye & Thanks av. 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I suggest adding 'flags any' to the end of your allow rule pass in quick on $ext_if from to any flags any Dennis On Mon., Sep. 16, 2024, 9:42 a.m. Kurt Hackenberg, wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:45:08AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > >I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the > >last 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness... > ... > >_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than > >10 daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; > ... > >_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); > > That's a lot of mail. > > Have you experimented with Thunderbird's cache settings? There are > some in the GUI (Settings->General->Disk Space), and more available > through the config editor. > > --0000000000005b9a2b0622412af9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If no flags are specified, then PF defaults to flags S/SA on= ly.

I suggest adding 'flags any' to the end of your allo= w rule

pass in quick on $ext_if from <adminrange> to any flag= s any

Dennis


On Mon= ., Sep. 16, 2024, 9:42 a.m. Kurt Hackenberg, <kh@panix.com> wrote:
O= n Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:45:08AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

>I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the=
>last 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness...
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>_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less tha= n
>10 daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional u= se;
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>_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages);

That's a lot of mail.

Have you experimented with Thunderbird's cache settings?=C2=A0 There ar= e
some in the GUI (Settings->General->Disk Space), and more available <= br> through the config editor.

--0000000000005b9a2b0622412af9-- From nobody Mon Sep 16 20:14:46 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6x3J2SCcz5WsTS for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-4316.protonmail.ch (mail-4316.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.16]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6x3H1dXrz4vJP for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=protonmail.com header.s=protonmail3 header.b=iLrl3NLM; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=protonmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com designates 185.70.43.16 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1726517689; x=1726776889; bh=RksxPkDuYGYrsNyY08tB+qxlw/q1qG2yFwpdmeDMF0k=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=iLrl3NLMKWQ8PUdlJe0kFna36SCmmsAL3BPcxbzRUqzwpamvdQ7qxXpuuB+j7faRX 28IwXHbu/D62+DxzmZHmxcsbswUhjebnUCvDWE1Cs0o5228GUz268FjuCezW2V4rBP 9f7gS4yaMbExmVQpCNpJs+dkjoQzwJci/W7GfNgGqUeepErm49QAm+NgcgyF+Oll4F 0jGHSB/WhT7xHuy0zSmaNfEJeqHYRwaP/mnrOWmnjfY0SluDg/rvfv5pk9GSVmXFdE ZuSL+rmAzgWG6AomEdVMrUG4oW4r+gGc0po2AJvf6eixzooEQ9OXGcfYebGzbzA3M+ I+y2290WkyDow== Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:14:46 +0000 To: "questions@freebsd.org" From: Joe B Subject: Protonmail Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 120396043:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: d72c7dae4233f105bd9286faaf52151a83da1de0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.19 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.987]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.com,quarantine]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(-0.20)[185.70.43.16:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.43.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.com:s=protonmail3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[protonmail.com]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[protonmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6x3H1dXrz4vJP Hello fellow BSD people, Has anyone got protonmail working on FreeBSD ? I downloaded the .Deb bridge from protonmail website installed dpkg from po= rts. Extracted it with dpkg -R and of course it dosen't run on freeBSD=20 1. https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide on trying to get it to work with g= o * Installed go but nothing happens afar as it working with protonmail= =20 Thanks Joe From nobody Mon Sep 16 20:24:36 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6xGh2sbDz5Wtly for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Received: from beesty.loosely.org (beesty.loosely.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6xGg6Gt0z43SF for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=beesty ident=itz) by beesty with esmtp (Exim 4.98-4-9cb179d48) (envelope-from ) id 1sqIGx-000000001WO-2Xce for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:24:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:24:36 -0700 From: fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw + igmp Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20240915163823.00004017@seibercom.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240915163823.00004017@seibercom.net> X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:63949, ipnet:2600:3c01::/32, country:SG] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6xGg6Gt0z43SF On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 04:38:23PM GMT, Gerard E. Seibert wrote: > On FreeBSD, IPFW supports both protocols "ipv6-icmp" and "icmp". It > also supports "igmp". I do not see any support for IPv6, however. Is > IPv6 not needed for "igmp"? wikipedia: IGMP is used on IPv4 networks. Multicast management on IPv6 networks is handled by Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) which is a part of ICMPv6 in contrast to IGMP's bare IP encapsulation. -- Ian From nobody Mon Sep 16 23:45:58 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X71l86QSVz5WSmg for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 23:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Received: from alisa.souji-thenria.net (alisa.souji-thenria.net [188.68.37.165]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X71l81q1Hz4cx4 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 23:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=souji-thenria.net; s=20231116; t=1726530364; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=oC57RFMfDdPBFC7V2UlvDo0vcwFGdJG8371ejqsqCXs=; b=Tdeu8dTOWPSaN1zsM0jU2EkTWnLBdQXLI7KAUrnSEbSNZMf51UlBuG/5tYpYLWz8Vu1Baa siyr72VyMpvUO19CWGP9fyTu8Nir791RiKaHOwJzQroUUii2hGP/VIh0x51yp35TSiY5T2 O4Y5I6h1MBQbbQT/KVj7juOfVcA+z/1t3+nwUazxZaJhmd+0K341VXJo3EQz1ApVC/v2Hf puF3Njj6GRDx9+h4bfIvp9xnRHpmTNlYlfoTrmkRya7adUi1v0/GH1ASnQ/9EECPKECInJ FK42TUVcWKkSo5i+EdZXv80wOmzBIiwt6hSvXTXpJkU1M02ThCg5jTsE84QZS8eOmFFEZ8 7JUJ0Fm9nDi424jpkA3Nh54aeSe6zbinsjNOku4JbGmoWNezwV0YPJPrcx+Am9FVs/H/8c 3PFWPwj6TGVZ0rLDe1yaXgIJa0L0LRNeENf6dhpdue6L59D9JqxWNLz4BdViSXuWwq2E2v LKJlK6ckKWKtil+WlnFFCkbE+ns16UGa4nJFwkXMm5B60reMoqU7r2o1uKlw4M0hjKhCn2 6ZHdJx/WyNsutv69RauHLaDdWq89B+zdlwurcAqnR43Em5P75lvNfGNlIo9z4ZKnSOVArI OX3K4tEAfn1Cfh3/Hlhd7EM64se+tEnAbbJlLXf4D/fxKEE7Mfmto= Received: by alisa.souji-thenria.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id f777a133 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:45:59 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=b8e09f678c684bb6ec7b006540fb76549a50326a7f583c277dd8054f693d; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:45:58 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Protonmail From: "Souji Thenria" To: "Joe B" , "questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: aerc 0.17.0 References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:188.68.32.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X71l81q1Hz4cx4 --b8e09f678c684bb6ec7b006540fb76549a50326a7f583c277dd8054f693d Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=Flowed On Mon Sep 16, 2024 at 10:14 PM CEST, Joe B wrote: > Hello fellow BSD people, > Hey Joe, > Has anyone got protonmail working on FreeBSD ? > > I downloaded the .Deb bridge from protonmail website installed dpkg > from ports. Extracted it with dpkg -R and of course it dosen't run on > freeBSD=20 > > 1. https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide on trying to get it to work with= go > * Installed go but nothing happens afar as it working with protonmail= =20 I just tried hydroxide, and it worked for me. What steps did you try? First, you need to log in: hydroxide auth This will generate a password you must use with your mail client. Now you can start, for example, the IMAP service with hydroxide imap This will show you the address (it should be localhost) and a port. Configure your mail client to connect to the IMAP server using the address and port displayed earlier. Then, use your proton username and the previously generated password for authentication. Regards, Souji --=20 Souji Thenria Website: www.souji-thenria.net --b8e09f678c684bb6ec7b006540fb76549a50326a7f583c277dd8054f693d Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSG4/SRE6pqved9MLdAFYmA9YTsaAUCZujDNwAKCRBAFYmA9YTs aJtuAQD4/o2EqFnOd8cPiJIQO/WMmL+nKRRfC4FsJn44VmCEdQD/TJ20d74xMGwa u5pzdKq12SZDyykOjc5g0dNJ2UhBOA4= =cSDY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b8e09f678c684bb6ec7b006540fb76549a50326a7f583c277dd8054f693d-- From nobody Mon Sep 16 23:56:17 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X71yv4Wghz5WVQ4 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 23:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-4322.protonmail.ch (mail-4322.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X71yt5J7fz4fZ0 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 23:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1726530980; x=1726790180; bh=/bKTVEz1Q6mabRfQF/bm4QHhnJxaeEeMhAm8byyqo4w=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=qGSdCLEgKKOCqvIl1voyfWSbIaEHrThKWDl3SuIIrMnf3YGnH5ANsjJGSfFNATC4L 3ZyprI5zcLVt9v5ZDrLK8O1B5Wfr+w12aYi4dVavljK+meuips0856SMUlyPSkNwAo b3BwZaf8kNmwQnV7CRRqWO5n3MtbuGGpPHVOPSwJ65gtsANGsaYh0oZ0O1ZPSL3UmK t1JKXsbzmXXNzg6hbNWw5Hxf7PFDD7H94VDHNrmNMgI1bQUJaFX+42VWXTPjKlsYzQ NEvkVUYnDKQpaqhuM+KPDGSSaccVO4zoMzK6MDQGfeorMvyZREg9iloBsi/QAMNbwN 7/7Q5jOQyH8WQ== Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 23:56:17 +0000 To: Souji Thenria From: Joe B Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Protonmail Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 120396043:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: dd7ab2feed1d1bfc324184230a47e847e933e46d List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X71yt5J7fz4fZ0 On Monday, September 16th, 2024 at 4:45 PM, Souji Thenria wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Mon Sep 16, 2024 at 10:14 PM CEST, Joe B wrote: >=20 > > Hello fellow BSD people, >=20 > Hey Joe, >=20 > > Has anyone got protonmail working on FreeBSD ? > >=20 > > I downloaded the .Deb bridge from protonmail website installed dpkg > > from ports. Extracted it with dpkg -R and of course it dosen't run on > > freeBSD > >=20 > > 1. https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide on trying to get it to work wi= th go > > * Installed go but nothing happens afar as it working with protonmail >=20 >=20 > I just tried hydroxide, and it worked for me. What steps did you try? >=20 > First, you need to log in: hydroxide auth >=20 > This will generate a password you must use with your mail client. >=20 > Now you can start, for example, the IMAP service with hydroxide imap > This will show you the address (it should be localhost) and a port. >=20 > Configure your mail client to connect to the IMAP server using the > address and port displayed earlier. Then, use your proton username and > the previously generated password for authentication. Hello, I just submitted an issue for this lol at the main website.. is there like = a string i need to run to get imap working and the gpg key i setup when i w= as on linux? If i didn't get what you said forgive me i'm looking at it word by word Thanks Joe From nobody Tue Sep 17 00:18:07 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X72S74SZVz5WYfc for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 00:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Received: from alisa.souji-thenria.net (alisa.souji-thenria.net [188.68.37.165]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X72S71PN5z4mb9 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 00:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=souji-thenria.net; s=20231116; t=1726532293; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6BlJyaM6hgnJlZMZ+3XPCDWsOvVG++MsaqkF2gKinVw=; b=dpqJFJBORxax5N3VbsAavsSDnYQNutxBa90g32hJOc52BJKvrFlLITjWS2pOVHTeUjLqZV pNB/B1iRaj8bqE+3eg3XSUIOhI9YFjZ7JIeloYFIj3rBbjRaRj7HEfSulUmMcYn+kSc8ds jJz50t14KUQ9sjFsjYGjbqr+F+uv+pFd4dsPmT71lrpHUm3oMTNG71Pr9adn/8HbAyFZna TgSqbOwoTMiAHhjmkBqQBpyAs4UMleZeyjNenm77uNHF2+x7nRAwLaFg8lDdH3YdnboYp5 8HbatM0ltEdkFY6gPr4C+tGFf9KbFNVFT3wNQxymFJ6DIiLdq5VErEDg5AYT74kme3kgwU kwnijgTwGv93X9RR+jPEXozoeTiBxMykoDngB5kBbe1SCydscRgSr/YmySbYqTmTyEch30 geIcg8amIaVWTMoiCFMaAEqnTnCIq57xHlwxs96voA4hgMvHXD8V8lkVipm347D+xRLHYh i7AXTTlRop/hNFYNF1YnSW+vcVY2lbqZpebf1hwIn96P2u9JPdtXFlBEz8DX5S8OdcZwLY w/ZzVe7kbxQVl+by9GaNzDpipPEQMD6ERK7aIZT42E3kTF/FW6DKOTlcFgJy5BCkSOT/21 +ll/VvuNbJPm02NOMJoGT4ReVyeNuVGmmyq3XUvIPTYvBFn8946zI= Received: by alisa.souji-thenria.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id d6435c23 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 17 Sep 2024 02:18:08 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=284c230d65d0bf6f4a33d4b26d061630b5b341f1ea000eca43903d40b4f9; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 02:18:07 +0200 Message-Id: Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Protonmail From: "Souji Thenria" To: "Joe B" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: aerc 0.17.0 References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:188.68.32.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X72S71PN5z4mb9 --284c230d65d0bf6f4a33d4b26d061630b5b341f1ea000eca43903d40b4f9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=Flowed On Tue Sep 17, 2024 at 1:56 AM CEST, Joe B wrote: > On Monday, September 16th, 2024 at 4:45 PM, Souji Thenria wrote: > > >=20 > >=20 > > On Mon Sep 16, 2024 at 10:14 PM CEST, Joe B wrote: > >=20 > > > Hello fellow BSD people, > >=20 > > Hey Joe, > >=20 > > > Has anyone got protonmail working on FreeBSD ? > > >=20 > > > I downloaded the .Deb bridge from protonmail website installed dpkg > > > from ports. Extracted it with dpkg -R and of course it dosen't run on > > > freeBSD > > >=20 > > > 1. https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide on trying to get it to work = with go > > > * Installed go but nothing happens afar as it working with protonmail > >=20 > >=20 > > I just tried hydroxide, and it worked for me. What steps did you try? > >=20 > > First, you need to log in: hydroxide auth > >=20 > > This will generate a password you must use with your mail client. > >=20 > > Now you can start, for example, the IMAP service with hydroxide imap > > This will show you the address (it should be localhost) and a port. > >=20 > > Configure your mail client to connect to the IMAP server using the > > address and port displayed earlier. Then, use your proton username and > > the previously generated password for authentication. > > Hello, > > I just submitted an issue for this lol at the main website.. is there > like a string i need to run to get imap working and the gpg key i > setup when i was on linux? > > If i didn't get what you said forgive me i'm looking at it word by word > > Thanks > > Joe I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but you don't need your GPG key to get IMAP or SMTP working. You can do the following, e.g. for IMAP: 1. Run: hydroxide auth 2. Follow the instructions (Password, TOTP) 3. A "bridge password" is shown, save it! 4. Run: hydroxide imap 5. Use your proton username and the "bridge password" from step 3 as credentials in your mail client. 6. Use the IP address and port shown when running the command in step 4 to configure your IMAP connection. I hope this helps. Regards, Souji --=20 Souji Thenria Website: www.souji-thenria.net --284c230d65d0bf6f4a33d4b26d061630b5b341f1ea000eca43903d40b4f9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSG4/SRE6pqved9MLdAFYmA9YTsaAUCZujKwAAKCRBAFYmA9YTs aBOoAP9Lb0cq6q+mHh3EjcghFAipo2aNZ6kqcyZXyjBR07gplQD6AiPSaI6DMEKZ H102GzvqRrSiBn2A4I3NUJgJJlHPbgI= =3htn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --284c230d65d0bf6f4a33d4b26d061630b5b341f1ea000eca43903d40b4f9-- From nobody Tue Sep 17 01:26:32 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X73z22LlCz5WmQR for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-40134.protonmail.ch (mail-40134.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X73z206flz4vpG for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1726536395; x=1726795595; bh=ty8/tXTAgZEA1ZWMqnJf5rK5Ft4Wgm+auq+jXkG/a0U=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=gSIRH0B5ji8TNuAHKskhdIKcPZ2zTe1BoGr/5TFkMNEA2vCZrG8n2RIYmUdKap8kE aizK6W+Y3YFQDWVqDaTHjvxtA72UpcA6adFeYHSFDy8lMdnkPnsVgsuwq3kvda05BE 8/nJUXAH4Lm7nvCmujeSd38snELfeEZNQ30jO2e6S7+fUJ4nz3sdyPGUd2kjxKnrnN GVf49upgG4nKvMs8JjtpmYiCa5LwDTL8TOjNkpsTWk77Y6jv/ctA80xAWFslow+iuu O2PlS6D6KLT9muci9QNpqzJAn/t8eRp5jHSrw5l+nLbFjfl5vRyZOMufaKYEVVu9kV m345y/DJtxTLQ== Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:26:32 +0000 To: Souji Thenria From: Joe B Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Protonmail Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 120396043:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 98786d45c64ba1c2ca52089435386cc3b0a6a7e1 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X73z206flz4vpG -------- Original Message -------- On 9/16/24 5:18 PM, Souji Thenria wrote: > On Tue Sep 17, 2024 at 1:56 AM CEST, Joe B wrote: > > On Monday, September 16th, 2024 at 4:45 PM, Souji Thenria wrote: > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On Mon Sep 16, 2024 at 10:14 PM CEST, Joe B wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Hello fellow BSD people, > > >=20 > > > Hey Joe, > > >=20 > > > > Has anyone got protonmail working on FreeBSD ? > > > >=20 > > > > I downloaded the .Deb bridge from protonmail website installed dpk= g > > > > from ports. Extracted it with dpkg -R and of course it dosen't run= on > > > > freeBSD > > > >=20 > > > > 1. https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide on trying to get it to wo= rk with go > > > > * Installed go but nothing happens afar as it working with protonm= ail > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I just tried hydroxide, and it worked for me. What steps did you try= ? > > >=20 > > > First, you need to log in: hydroxide auth > > >=20 > > > This will generate a password you must use with your mail client. > > >=20 > > > Now you can start, for example, the IMAP service with hydroxide imap > > > This will show you the address (it should be localhost) and a port. > > >=20 > > > Configure your mail client to connect to the IMAP server using the > > > address and port displayed earlier. Then, use your proton username a= nd > > > the previously generated password for authentication. > > > > Hello, > > > > I just submitted an issue for this lol at the main website.. is there > > like a string i need to run to get imap working and the gpg key i > > setup when i was on linux? > > > > If i didn't get what you said forgive me i'm looking at it word by wor= d > > > > Thanks > > > > Joe > =20 > I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but you don't need your GPG key > to get IMAP or SMTP working. > =20 > You can do the following, e.g. for IMAP: > 1. Run: hydroxide auth > 2. Follow the instructions (Password, TOTP) > 3. A "bridge password" is shown, save it! > =20 > 4. Run: hydroxide imap > =20 > 5. Use your proton username and the "bridge password" from step 3 as > credentials in your mail client. > 6. Use the IP address and port shown when running the command in step 4 > to configure your IMAP connection. Thanks for looking out. Really quick is there a format I need in my muttrc so that neomutt it can s= ee where my username pass ip and port are coming from ? Do you have a sample by chance ? Thanks Joe From nobody Tue Sep 17 08:30:33 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X7FNF0m3vz5WpPh for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X7FNC6VC1z4sHG for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202407 header.b=AjkA1NmJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.18.1/8.17.2) with ESMTPSA id 48H8UXxH055992 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 10:30:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfence.it; s=202407; t=1726561833; bh=ol7R6ZaZt8ioJPdkirWx7tACHoEo9Xcshfvl5+YjfSQ=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=AjkA1NmJ10c6DGYv1tpaoUwpN4SQVNKstRelkjHG45st2zKU5Owq58soyLBEO0Jn3 nKGfyw9XeomCZFsVrOUPow+ZhW0jcHwu8akVD8PPX225xHBWlG2S8vtgHQDzjtCMSz k8IoLujY2TGx4P52knrPofFPL+Hn55KO+OwNd5tk= X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 10:30:33 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202407]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7FNC6VC1z4sHG On 9/16/24 17:41, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > That's a lot of mail. > > Have you experimented with Thunderbird's cache settings?  There are some > in the GUI (Settings->General->Disk Space), and more available through > the config editor. Hello. I tried playing blindly with Settings->General->Disk Space, but it doesn't seem to change much. Do you have something specific in mind? I also tried putting ~/.thunderbird aside and starting over with a couple of accounts: while not exactly "fast", it's a couple of order of magnitude better than with my current profile. I wonder if it will crawl again in case I went on and read everything... that would be some days of wasted work :-( bye & Thanks av. From nobody Tue Sep 17 11:16:20 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X7K3c3dWZz595SK for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs2.fjl.org.uk (bs2.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.208]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "bs2.fjl.org.uk", Issuer "bs2.fjl.org.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X7K3b3zV3z4FTY for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk designates 84.45.41.208 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk Received: from roundcube.fjl.uk ([192.168.0.2]) by bs2.fjl.org.uk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 48HBGKoF018540 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:16:20 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:16:20 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt To: questions Subject: Re: Zpool status -- why does a suboptimal pool show as "ONLINE"? In-Reply-To: <312af967-e5bf-4e83-b48b-7c2841719373@app.fastmail.com> References: <378D100E-FFE1-4DA7-9C52-219863A50A24@gushi.org> <312af967-e5bf-4e83-b48b-7c2841719373@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <0290d22f5be2eb0b324254b663076924@fjl.co.uk> X-Sender: freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.86 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.922]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.75)[-0.745]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:84.45.41.208]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25577, ipnet:84.45.0.0/17, country:GB]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fjl.co.uk]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7K3b3zV3z4FTY On 2024-09-12 14:29, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, at 13:05, Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote: >> Hey there all, >> >> I have a nagios check that assumes that if I have a suboptimal zfs >> zpool, that the word “DEGRADED” will appear in the output. One disk >> of >> a two-disk mirror seems to have faulted, but the pool still shows as >> “ONLINE”. I know I’ve seen the word “DEGRADED” in the past. What’s >> different? >> >> pool: zroot >> state: ONLINE >> status: One or more devices are faulted in response to persistent >> errors. >> Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning >> in a >> degraded state. >> action: Replace the faulted device, or use 'zpool clear' to mark the >> device >> repaired. >> config: >> >> NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM >> zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 >> mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 >> ada0p3 FAULTED 4 372 0 too many errors >> ada1p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 >> >> errors: No known data errors >> >> 14.1, if it matters, the disks are two innolite SATADOM’s. > > Hi Dan > > I agree that I would expect the mirror-0 at least to report DEGRADED > or similar. Hopefully one of the zfs people clarifies the logic here. > > Practically, what I do is run: > > zpool status | grep -v 'with 0 errors' | sha256 > > and check that this hash remains the same over time. It's obviously > different for each pool. Could that help for nagios? I agree. A faulted drive always used to appear as "FAULTED" and and the vdev and pool should both have been tagged "DEGRADED" (cascading upwards). A faulted drive isn't necessary taken offline, although "too many errors" suggests it should be. If this isn't a bug I'd like to know the reason why. Regards, Frank. From nobody Tue Sep 17 11:29:41 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X7KLt6XKnz596yy for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs2.fjl.org.uk (bs2.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.208]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "bs2.fjl.org.uk", Issuer "bs2.fjl.org.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X7KLt2NyFz4HKq for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk designates 84.45.41.208 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk Received: from roundcube.fjl.uk ([192.168.0.2]) by bs2.fjl.org.uk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 48HBTf1N021032 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:29:41 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:29:41 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt To: questions Subject: Manual upgrade using base.txz Message-ID: <573b9b4c7f56702619bbb77e9a8c0a77@fjl.co.uk> X-Sender: freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ec7cc883d54200f4a086b33fb7b5c027" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.81 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.939]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.914]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.76)[-0.756]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:84.45.41.208:c]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25577, ipnet:84.45.0.0/17, country:GB]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fjl.co.uk]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7KLt2NyFz4HKq --=_ec7cc883d54200f4a086b33fb7b5c027 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I'm sure a lot of people have FreeBSD machines running on older versions. In recent years, TPTB have removed all but the newest versions of anything from repos, which puts the kibosh on using freebsd-upgrade to to bring them forward in stages to a current version. After a year or so you're stuck with an old release. And I'm sure we've all had freebsd-grade go south anyway. Assuming you know what you're doing with configuration files /etc/, what would happen if you booted from a CD and simply unpacked base.txz over the current configuration? Let's assume it's on ZFS or UFS2. I've always had the idea that this installed the complete base system "factory reset" style. But I've never actually tried it. For many years I've run everything in one or more jails, and IME, a jailed environment from an earlier release tend to run just fine on a new kernel, so I'm hoping the solution is as simple as I've always thought. But if it was that simple, why isn't everyone doing it? Thoughts? Thanks, Frank. --=_ec7cc883d54200f4a086b33fb7b5c027 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

I'm sure a lot of people have FreeBSD machines running on older versions= =2E In recent years, TPTB have removed all but the newest versions of anyth= ing from repos, which puts the kibosh on using freebsd-upgrade to to bring = them forward in stages to a current version. After a year or so you're stuc= k with an old release. And I'm sure we've all had freebsd-grade go south an= yway.

Assuming you know what you're doing with configuration files /etc/, what= would happen if you booted from a CD and simply unpacked base.txz over the= current configuration? Let's assume it's on ZFS or UFS2.

I've always had the idea that this installed the complete base system "f= actory reset" style. But I've never actually tried it.

For many years I've run everything in one or more jails, and IME, a jail= ed environment from an earlier release tend to run just fine on a new kerne= l, so I'm hoping the solution is as simple as I've always thought. But if i= t was that simple, why isn't everyone doing it?

Thoughts?

Thanks, Frank.


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Tue, 17 Sep 2024 04:45:53 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Waitman Gobble Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 07:45:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004fbf5406224f3b58" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.54 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.538]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::433:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7KjZ5Qtsz4KSG --0000000000004fbf5406224f3b58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 5:45=E2=80=AFAM Andrea Venturoli w= rote: > Hello. > > I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the last > 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with specific > big troubles in some areas), but I resisted. > Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to another > or from one message to another takes seconds (so just skimming the > messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds the time it did > until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes about 5 seconds, > marking 50 messages as read takes close to one minute, etc...). > > Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of > criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something > else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years ago, > it's time to move on to something else. > > > > In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly > others I might have missed. > I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course I > could try them all, but it would take days of work. > So I'm asking here for a suggestion... > > > What I absolutely need: > _ close to perfect IMAP support; > _ IMAP tags/labels; > _ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10 > daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; > _ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached > messages (for others); > _ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); > _ CardDAV support; > _ good searching; > _ performance, stability, future support, etc... > > What I'd like: > _ newsgroups support; > _ RSS; > _ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs, > still...): > _ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I use > XFCE); > _ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing). > > What I don't care about: > _ message filters; > _ antispam (as I manage them both server side); > _ "modern" interface. > > Any hint? > > bye & Thanks > av. > > I've tried most if not all email clients, nothing is faster in processing for me than round cube (yes it's web based) I use sieve to autoprocess/file many emails, especially from lists. mail/roundcube mail/dovecot-sieve --=20 Waitman Gobble --0000000000004fbf5406224f3b58 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 5:45=E2=80=AF= AM Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> wrote:
Hel= lo.

I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the las= t
20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with specific
big troubles in some areas), but I resisted.
Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to another
or from one message to another takes seconds (so just skimming the
messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds the time it did until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes about 5 seconds,
marking 50 messages as read takes close to one minute, etc...).

Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years ago,
it's time to move on to something else.



In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly
others I might have missed.
I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course I could try them all, but it would take days of work.
So I'm asking here for a suggestion...


What I absolutely need:
_ close to perfect IMAP support;
_ IMAP tags/labels;
_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10=
daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use;
_ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached
messages (for others);
_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages);
_ CardDAV support;
_ good searching;
_ performance, stability, future support, etc...

What I'd like:
_ newsgroups support;
_ RSS;
_ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs,
still...):
_ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I use XFCE);
_ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing).

What I don't care about:
_ message filters;
_ antispam (as I manage them both server side);
_ "modern" interface.

Any hint?

=C2=A0 bye & Thanks
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 av.


I've tried most if not all em= ail clients, nothing is faster in processing for me than round cube (yes it= 's web based) I use sieve to autoprocess/file many emails, especially f= rom lists.
mail/roundcube
mail/dovecot-sieve
<= div>
--
Waitman Gobble

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It's an optimised rainloop fork=2E I would expec= t it's even faster than roundcube=2E Regards, dlx Le 17 septembre 2024 11:45:41 UTC, Waitman Gobble a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 5:45=E2=80=AFAM Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >> Hello=2E >> >> I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the las= t >> 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with specific >> big troubles in some areas), but I resisted=2E >> Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to another >> or from one message to another takes seconds (so just skimming the >> messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds the time it di= d >> until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes about 5 seconds, >> marking 50 messages as read takes close to one minute, etc=2E=2E=2E)=2E >> >> Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of >> criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something >> else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years ago, >> it's time to move on to something else=2E >> >> >> >> In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly >> others I might have missed=2E >> I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course I >> could try them all, but it would take days of work=2E >> So I'm asking here for a suggestion=2E=2E=2E >> >> >> What I absolutely need: >> _ close to perfect IMAP support; >> _ IMAP tags/labels; >> _ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10 >> daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; >> _ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached >> messages (for others); >> _ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); >> _ CardDAV support; >> _ good searching; >> _ performance, stability, future support, etc=2E=2E=2E >> >> What I'd like: >> _ newsgroups support; >> _ RSS; >> _ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs, >> still=2E=2E=2E): >> _ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I us= e >> XFCE); >> _ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing)=2E >> >> What I don't care about: >> _ message filters; >> _ antispam (as I manage them both server side); >> _ "modern" interface=2E >> >> Any hint? >> >> bye & Thanks >> av=2E >> >> >I've tried most if not all email clients, nothing is faster in processing >for me than round cube (yes it's web based) I use sieve to autoprocess/fi= le >many emails, especially from lists=2E >mail/roundcube >mail/dovecot-sieve > >--=20 >Waitman Gobble ------89X8I1OEALTDB47L2AUNNPKU8JQN3O Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you tried snappymail? It's = an optimised rainloop fork=2E I would expect it's even faster than roundcub= e=2E

Regards,
dlx


Le 17 septembre 2024 11:45:41 UTC, Waitman Gobble <gobble=2Ew= a@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 5:45=E2=80= =AFAM Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence= =2Eit> wrote:
Hello=2E

I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the last <= br> 20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with specific
big troubles in some areas), but I resisted=2E
Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to another or from one message to another takes seconds (so just skimming the
messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds the time it did <= br> until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes about 5 seconds,
marking 50 messages as read takes close to one minute, etc=2E=2E=2E)=2E
Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of
criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something
else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years ago, it's time to move on to something else=2E



In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly
others I might have missed=2E
I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course I could try them all, but it would take days of work=2E
So I'm asking here for a suggestion=2E=2E=2E


What I absolutely need:
_ close to perfect IMAP support;
_ IMAP tags/labels;
_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10 daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; _ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached
messages (for others);
_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages);
_ CardDAV support;
_ good searching;
_ performance, stability, future support, etc=2E=2E=2E

What I'd like:
_ newsgroups support;
_ RSS;
_ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs,
still=2E=2E=2E):
_ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I use <= br> XFCE);
_ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing)=2E

What I don't care about:
_ message filters;
_ antispam (as I manage them both server side);
_ "modern" interface=2E

Any hint?

  bye & Thanks
        av=2E


I've tried most if not all email= clients, nothing is faster in processing for me than round cube (yes it's = web based) I use sieve to autoprocess/file many emails, especially from lis= ts=2E
mail/roundcube
mail/dovecot-sieve
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[146.199.85.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-378e73f988bsm9427930f8f.55.2024.09.17.05.54.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 Sep 2024 05:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:54:10 +0100 From: Sad Clouds To: Frank Leonhardt Cc: questions Subject: Re: Manual upgrade using base.txz Message-Id: <20240917135410.7ef40272bad87497c66dd224@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <573b9b4c7f56702619bbb77e9a8c0a77@fjl.co.uk> References: <573b9b4c7f56702619bbb77e9a8c0a77@fjl.co.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.8.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart=_Tue__17_Sep_2024_13_54_10_+0100_jwkrl12s/bNgphLJ" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7MDP6dRGz4VNJ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart=_Tue__17_Sep_2024_13_54_10_+0100_jwkrl12s/bNgphLJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you seen my recent posts to this list about upgrading base system in this manner? I have always preferred manual upgrades and used it for years with NetBSD. The only issue with FreeBSD I found was the lack of postinstall/postupdate scripts to remove obsolete binaries. So I simply "rm -rf" all upgrade directories and then unpack base.txz. You can boot from CD/DVD, but I prefer a small rescue partition with a stripped down install of FreeBSD to perform upgrades. But in case you missed my previous post, I've attached my notes, but you can script it to your own requirements. --Multipart=_Tue__17_Sep_2024_13_54_10_+0100_jwkrl12s/bNgphLJ Content-Type: text/plain; name="Update.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Update.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Boot into root-rescue ------------------------------------------------------- gpart show -l da0 => 40 3907029088 da0 GPT (1.8T) 40 2008 - free - (1.0M) 2048 131072 1 efi (64M) 133120 67108864 2 root (32G) 67241984 8388608 3 root-rescue (4.0G) 75630592 8388608 4 swap (4.0G) 84019200 67108864 5 var (32G) 151128064 3755900928 6 data (1.7T) 3907028992 136 - free - (68K) Boot rescue from loader when bootloader OK on root partition: OK lsdev OK set currdev=disk0p3 OK boot Boot rescue from loader when bootloader damaged on root partition: Press Esc before bootloader is loaded, then boot: 0:ad(0p3)/boot/loader -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Mount root and var then create UFS snapshots -------------------------------- mount /dev/gpt/root /mnt mount /dev/gpt/var /mnt/var # Create snapshots for snapshot in '/mnt/.snap/latest' '/mnt/var/.snap/latest' do mksnap_ffs ${snapshot:?}.tmp && chflags nodump ${snapshot:?}.tmp || break mv ${snapshot:?}.tmp ${snapshot:?} || break ls -lho ${snapshot:?} done # If update goes wrong, restore snapshots with tar for snapshot in '/mnt/.snap/latest' '/mnt/var/.snap/latest' do ufsdir="$(dirname ${snapshot:?})/.." rm -rf ${ufsdir:?}/*; chflags -R 0 ${ufsdir:?}/*; rm -rf ${ufsdir:?}/*; mdconfig -a -u md0 -t vnode -o readonly -f ${snapshot:?} || break mkdir /tmp/mnt_md && mount -r /dev/md0 /tmp/mnt_md || break tar -C /tmp/mnt_md --nodump -cf - ./ | tar -C ${ufsdir:?} --clear-nochange-fflags --exclude="./.snap" -xpSUf - umount /tmp/mnt_md && rmdir /tmp/mnt_md || break mdconfig -d -u md0 || break done # If update goes wrong, restore snapshots with dump: for snapshot in '/mnt/.snap/latest' '/mnt/var/.snap/latest' do ufsdir="$(dirname ${snapshot:?})/.." rm -rf ${ufsdir:?}/*; chflags -R 0 ${ufsdir:?}/*; rm -rf ${ufsdir:?}/*; (cd ${ufsdir:?} && dump -0 -a -h 0 -C 16 -b 64 -f - ${snapshot:?} | restore -xuvf -) rm -f ${snapshot:?}.tmp done # Delete snapshots when no longer needed for snapshot in '/mnt/.snap/latest' '/mnt/var/.snap/latest' do rm -f ${snapshot:?} done -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Perform update -------------------------------------------------------------- # Build or download FreeBSD release archives ls -1 base.txz kernel.txz lib32.txz # Root mount point at which update should happen UPDATE_ROOT="/data/vdom/test/system" # Paths that need to be removed and then updated with new binaries UPDATE_PATHS=" bin boot lib libexec rescue sbin usr/sbin usr/bin usr/include usr/lib usr/lib32 usr/libdata usr/libexec usr/share usr/tests " # Backup boot in case of custom loader.conf settings cp -a ${UPDATE_ROOT:?}/boot ${UPDATE_ROOT:?}/boot.copy # Remove paths with old binaries for i in ${UPDATE_PATHS:?} do chflags -R 0 ${UPDATE_ROOT:?}/${i:?} rm -rf ${UPDATE_ROOT:?}/${i:?} done # Extract new updates from base.txz for i in ${UPDATE_PATHS:?} do tar -C ${UPDATE_ROOT:?} --clear-nochange-fflags -xpf base.txz ./${i:?} done # Extract kernel updates (not required for jails) tar -C ${UPDATE_ROOT:?} --clear-nochange-fflags -xpf kernel.txz # View etc changes prior to update etcupdate diff -D ${UPDATE_ROOT:?} -d ${UPDATE_ROOT:?}/var/db/etcupdate | less # Update etc files # 1) Extract etcupdate current tree from the base archive tar -xpf base.txz ./var/db/etcupdate/current # 2) Create etcupdate.tar.bz2 archive tar -C ./var/db/etcupdate/current -jcf etcupdate.tar.bz2 ./ && rm -rf ./var # 3) Run etcupdate merging new changes in etcupdate.tar.bz2 into /etc etcupdate -D ${UPDATE_ROOT:?} -d ${UPDATE_ROOT:?}/var/db/etcupdate -F -t etcupdate.tar.bz2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Multipart=_Tue__17_Sep_2024_13_54_10_+0100_jwkrl12s/bNgphLJ-- From nobody Tue Sep 17 13:10:32 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X7MbQ48Fhz59NDL for ; 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R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7MbP4mcTz4XXD On 9/17/24 13:45, Waitman Gobble wrote: > I've tried most if not all email clients, nothing is faster in > processing for me than round cube (yes it's web based) I use sieve to > autoprocess/file many emails, especially from lists. > mail/roundcube Thanks for your suggestion, but I'm really not into webmail. I have RoundCube installed, but only for emergency. bye & Thanks av. 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I can recommend SOGo [2]; additionally, its performance is better than that of roundcube. 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Let's assume it's on ZFS or UFS2. Yes, I do this frequently, so much that I wrote it down. It works best with zfs and a clean boot environment. https://people.freebsd.org/~dch/posts/2021-02-23-sideloading-freebsd/ it's clearly very mad scientist experimental, expect some breakage as you merge various things. This guide was targeted at zfs, because boot environments are incredible at reducing the pain. Don't forget to keep your EFI partition / boot blocks up to date. And something about backups, testing them. A+ Dave From nobody Wed Sep 18 10:18:57 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X7vky6nPtz5Vg9j for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X7vkx6fzKz4gQt for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk designates 84.45.41.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk Received: from [192.168.1.184] (host86-173-162-9.range86-173.btcentralplus.com [86.173.162.9]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 48IAIvvG009916 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:18:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <742c54c1-075f-4255-84b1-3a34e826c352@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:18:57 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Manual upgrade using base.txz Content-Language: en-GB From: Frank Leonhardt To: questions References: <573b9b4c7f56702619bbb77e9a8c0a77@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <573b9b4c7f56702619bbb77e9a8c0a77@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.61 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.88)[-0.882]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.64)[-0.640]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:84.45.41.196:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25577, ipnet:84.45.0.0/17, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@FreeBSD.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fjl.co.uk]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X7vkx6fzKz4gQt On 17/09/2024 12:29, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > > I'm sure a lot of people have FreeBSD machines running on older > versions. In recent years, TPTB have removed all but the newest > versions of anything from repos, which puts the kibosh on using > freebsd-upgrade to to bring them forward in stages to a current > version. After a year or so you're stuck with an old release. And I'm > sure we've all had freebsd-grade go south anyway. > > Assuming you know what you're doing with configuration files /etc/, > what would happen if you booted from a CD and simply unpacked base.txz > over the current configuration? Let's assume it's on ZFS or UFS2. > > I've always had the idea that this installed the complete base system > "factory reset" style. But I've never actually tried it. > > For many years I've run everything in one or more jails, and IME, a > jailed environment from an earlier release tend to run just fine on a > new kernel, so I'm hoping the solution is as simple as I've always > thought. But if it was that simple, why isn't everyone doing it? > > Thoughts? > > Thanks, Frank. > Sound like everyone is unsure as I am, given the complex upgrade mechamism we're pushed towards. So far so good. FreeBSD11 box that was upgraded to 13.2 over the years before upgrade to 13.3 barfed - booted for USB stick, imported zpool and mounted system, untared base.txz and kernel.txz from 13.4 and all good. Probably a good idea to copy /etc/passwd* back if you want to log in anywhere other than as root on the console though :-) Regards, Frank. 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Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:33:11 +0100 From: void To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.65 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[f-m.fm,none]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(-0.20)[103.168.172.148:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.168.172.128/27]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[f-m.fm:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.15)[0.153]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[103.168.172.148:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; 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Massively configurable, imap support is excellent, and it's quick even on feeble hardware. -- From nobody Wed Sep 18 14:54:16 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X81rY4CL2z5WYG9 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 14:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosotic@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X81rX3Sfwz4HPs for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 14:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosotic@gmx.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.com header.s=s31663417 header.b=cGIcczXp; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=gmx.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of drosotic@gmx.com designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=drosotic@gmx.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.com; s=s31663417; t=1726671258; x=1727276058; i=drosotic@gmx.com; bh=1/S3oeu3VUzLl/RULoeDtF9MDapfWZkyhOxNtkb+QeE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=cGIcczXpsLUFXPMnspwhtI5dGuXAVOe5bYjDsudowngj/UxMZ37Zo+RHS79u+lle IZhr2Ur3gDNpNm1/J7OWNPql5FbX8eUBa6w9b8TnQDRHC7fXirtZKFzsezoSjJTtX TKbVlymjNjFiSWX5t7CxdmGtfU1roMeGWAOSQ3Fz7sOKQ6AXCnKM1Quh3MVEoXoQg Fb/2qiSuOGBY38oevFZ75TRBKRyBIP6E4o5r8f/8PwjR8prbNfuMszHU/zMZ5zY8i nBsm9yvqWuoCInBsX//iFhi14mPhV7usK0+T+3UEIWueD1QuUCfuzqjOJo33RlEKc pxzsZvFnF9QUUxIkiA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from drosot.icus ([46.20.166.115]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MKbkC-1sYAEQ0Gw0-00QusH for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:54:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:54:16 +0200 From: Darius Rosotic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:l3jCG5d9MSHKRK3sUDVDd6V/LB2rQy0U+1BBJu9fdSzYYTQj1Ez AJBj/Q3dHiwncsRRk67ZBDbP2qql/uoXjf+Gw2krqM9XybcGK/OqPNPWpEQamri88vJPknE ZWSWf3iaSDSLuGExKz2a+bsPi6N+Uknwqx/93jDmIeNvd7LKldDboyQJ627DqAUTRaTcSuG /Ul7lq+S/QB7HJNPy1WWA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:x3okK5Zpe8A=;p42+MSMYmZkK9rLkBft4Ouo6PKb x5aPWnreYmg8OtMJmRTSN8Aa2uDHTHCqrX8jEB8VINPIWV7puu2WSg30nDXkYdHTEjjjsWpe7 xv1ELy1du9GTt4AJKx0pPnCQSOKFvWEt9wCaSoLayrEDbtK7fcLg1UnjE4Bf1tp9xxDfyRFS2 hbPlKjbP0YLE6mMR5KHaANeAj+K837bXVHzc84E6HyMM6cmJapzp3GhwYsHw9sE+w4dI8hCEC 5RUrByrh5xxwiBJCtcm9wM61+q6ON45LkyhAtrghzZPOEXm513MnYnJROU5WhMU2CxML8iXz6 2yAZ/S8C9SXbNr/SZw+19aXULt2AYvnD0Hgj0ZnTDrW2V38gTsd8BwLqsmUgwvEPD95pBkY4Z +gACW5UlvhZBVQXy9LdqB78tcnzGy0Q9CWnE3fvzYJLgU/FuAvC3Xh0EoN/n1vizAcMoqASmp pW8/F+eC/PkiTZm+W0/KmtOwlAX1d9IJBlo7iDC/v0U2nVWMY1psMd2JNmMQ1q/aaQreJddyV Bs3NbsqpEq2Keuh638gMjg64Kna5b6F8wAN7d3LulA4yvMYQ1XB8E29vIqKSjLMvr9kuqlwYY xaZ2BBYgt8t+Vp/Wfq1ObbXtWLVB+4bsypkmn1t4DuPwdhZSeE+1oH+oJq6MZEQXcVeH7TAbp cm6SXfq4MhCSyRkNgKbnJs/TBjlVpgXYVVdkQm3PCRFa2aMkLiDJvJ/9NEd8ZN/Z9j/wJYV2N jrNnVcS9FTYSgftI/h4wv9h65ezFewAGKc4+G4B0oUfXlGj8S6iX3xOXzGqXVqsYSXiBmKQFl NS5NU6QJg/mTeDtd1pnU7sHA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[gmx.com:dkim]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmx.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.40)[0.400]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mout.gmx.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmx.com:s=s31663417]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[212.227.17.21:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmx.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmx.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmx.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X81rX3Sfwz4HPs X-Spamd-Bar: - On 2024-09-18 15:33:11, void wrote: > I use mail/mutt. Massively configurable, imap support is excellent, > and it's quick even on feeble hardware. > -- > Hello, I also use mutt for many years, it's flawless. Multiple accounts and protocols (POP & IMAP). I even use it for consulting plain text mailing list archives. With regards, Darius From nobody Wed Sep 18 20:07:44 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X88pH3D8sz52GHk for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from freeport.safeport.com (freeport.safeport.com [147.160.157.114]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X88pG3QPPz4sfP for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com designates 147.160.157.114 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [147.160.157.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by freeport.safeport.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 888206896C8 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:07:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: building a 14.1 workstation Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.20 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:147.160.157.114]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[147.160.157.114]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X88pG3QPPz4sfP X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_ip I got kind of busy, but I wanted to thank every for their input. I tried a good number of, if not all what was suggested. In our case because we use poudriere for all our servers we can add workstation builds costing us no extra time. This Bypasses the 49 hour built limit and the inconsistencies that causes. I found no way around this. Anyway thanks again for all the help Doug _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From nobody Thu Sep 19 21:48:26 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X8q060Hnjz5XXHg for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Received: from alisa.souji-thenria.net (alisa.souji-thenria.net [188.68.37.165]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X8q046hJ1z4qjp for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=souji-thenria.net header.s=20231116 header.b=iAecFGjh; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=souji-thenria.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mail@souji-thenria.net designates 188.68.37.165 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mail@souji-thenria.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=souji-thenria.net; s=20231116; t=1726782508; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=cGH2R1WzVKcDMle/7vWnJi4AxvqvracyrsN5WtUates=; b=iAecFGjhjlQHxLQ4tY9NiAxtNvIlZt2y5TweLtmY/dJHYG4Ip3jOc0iqJPUFvjmCRBz24K 9Zdt90kva2bIpRdP9jC9nAiL9nRUTj7jRiYjvMqYJjT+mTfXxT4adssnjbo3GPjISAQa8Z 410duS073yIReEO5f9FKTZPfFeGiXUtK/DDBL9KLb0dO/MYvTiOXSB44L3gPddskc3wc1+ LoZ6C3q/5aii1UkMAksYhdNWhZ1upNxvRbwTkSdWeKjQasgnCdVFuj97iYqxq7vVJh3z2T T8Tg2bKujYydUCOFtLMDKrUiR6JxPjCSPVbeP+5edqoxvkuUKXFCK1dQEUEhawCmnHjzgm J7iwp9fiopdQGoj7wkU46A0NDSCQ3pXL3tM6PE5J+acy/K6U6mfGLcdfqOdN/Y4ahh2Yu9 ENQTRLs/IwILHem32Cxt6XOrbmng1QYXe8U8Qh+SLjDSqYVYeDIEoWv3G70I3HSisiw52c 1eiEVcoyItQbBT2tB2qf5pdEJOJHFjDUwMTV1AY8DK0Kw5nF0Rfvrkt0Uqjoud79BUZt0n iRmNncpRzq0zkUHOMLJ+CDVvXScb+Q9+OovOGLCUPetpnLm6ksYOGLEUfiWauV09hyMysZ s2HC3R1NYrc+n3LpaHWxNZhg8pGKx/uNL23WpnV8cPW5W+Fb5jfd0= Received: by alisa.souji-thenria.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7e353b70 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:48:26 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=b0353e6c01535585643387181f425cb0aa2f8e3bda152a7cf75807bd587e; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:48:26 +0200 Message-Id: Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Protonmail From: "Souji Thenria" To: "Joe B" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: aerc 0.17.0 References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.50 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[souji-thenria.net,quarantine]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[souji-thenria.net:s=20231116]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[protonmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[souji-thenria.net:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:188.68.32.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X8q046hJ1z4qjp X-Spamd-Bar: ----- --b0353e6c01535585643387181f425cb0aa2f8e3bda152a7cf75807bd587e Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=Flowed On Tue Sep 17, 2024 at 3:26 AM CEST, Joe B wrote: > > You can do the following, e.g. for IMAP: > > 1. Run: hydroxide auth > > 2. Follow the instructions (Password, TOTP) > > 3. A "bridge password" is shown, save it! > > =20 > > 4. Run: hydroxide imap > > =20 > > 5. Use your proton username and the "bridge password" from step 3 as > > credentials in your mail client. > > 6. Use the IP address and port shown when running the command in step = 4 > > to configure your IMAP connection. > > > Really quick is there a format I need in my muttrc so that neomutt it can= see where my username pass ip and port are coming from ? > > Do you have a sample by chance ? Sorry, I missed your email... I have never used neomutt (or mutt), so I can't help you with that. But I hope you have solved your problem in the meantime. Regards, Souji --=20 Souji Thenria Website: www.souji-thenria.net --b0353e6c01535585643387181f425cb0aa2f8e3bda152a7cf75807bd587e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSG4/SRE6pqved9MLdAFYmA9YTsaAUCZuycKgAKCRBAFYmA9YTs aHqhAQDvRGqG8yQkGPzBGaKRH+JYmTVwmPH5tEdmVG4AT2rzkAEA0nTmS6LPF2Ru fr7XqH5CdQQzluX8ZY+KxGXeImz52wo= =OIlu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b0353e6c01535585643387181f425cb0aa2f8e3bda152a7cf75807bd587e-- From nobody Fri Sep 20 01:05:53 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X8vMr2nRxz5W8Df for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-4322.protonmail.ch (mail-4322.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X8vMr0Ynqz3xX8 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1726794357; x=1727053557; bh=doP1A5s9DDUtzoeOBSce1i+3muUH4jbE8wWddap/HaY=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=DkWxN/HmUWsYRGGC2dRohECIcxEe1wxvl3EvrqHwhRFiS79i4YfJBhF2CyaxarLLH i9wzl1zWVS0mGsoj78YXFq6MoQlDu5T3AIZGqzBv9XZ6Bd4Z8KCx+8D+o6oVmzMZA3 xIwpjl1jhSnSsYt/9RxoxsDqaUeKaVdccsq5YTzTh1mZHEqlZeKFEq2FliG+3yg0Yq LPKEQeuGOkOOJ4+cJJMXnLS+d+J5L0upEN3ujFVl5/SGYFsU91FTocK/Km3271DDmV VRtgxTYp3AqUdrgQTLSIJNjeB/Dg3NznrTxAAozpwTB6BKujsJWJd1OzzJGG8SMaT4 vU7moa2jDtbOw== Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:05:53 +0000 To: Souji Thenria From: Joe B Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Protonmail Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 120396043:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: aefc4042af361685b85659bb0bddac773ffdb6d9 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X8vMr0Ynqz3xX8 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On Thursday, September 19th, 2024 at 2:48 PM, Souji Thenria wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue Sep 17, 2024 at 3:26 AM CEST, Joe B wrote: >=20 > > > You can do the following, e.g. for IMAP: > > > 1. Run: hydroxide auth > > > 2. Follow the instructions (Password, TOTP) > > > 3. A "bridge password" is shown, save it! > > >=20 > > > 4. Run: hydroxide imap > > >=20 > > > 5. Use your proton username and the "bridge password" from step 3 as > > > credentials in your mail client. > > > 6. Use the IP address and port shown when running the command in step= 4 > > > to configure your IMAP connection. > >=20 > > Really quick is there a format I need in my muttrc so that neomutt it c= an see where my username pass ip and port are coming from ? > >=20 > > Do you have a sample by chance ? >=20 >=20 > Sorry, I missed your email... > I have never used neomutt (or mutt), so I can't help you with that. But > I hope you have solved your problem in the meantime. It's been resolved Thanks Joe From nobody Fri Sep 20 01:40:07 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X8w7P4LCwz5WGMM for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chaplintokyo@vivaldi.net) Received: from smtp.vivaldi.net (smtp.vivaldi.net [31.209.137.12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X8w7N3z9gz43JX for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chaplintokyo@vivaldi.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=vivaldi.net header.s=default header.b=F26ICVRA; dkim=pass header.d=vivaldi.net header.s=default header.b=Sbc6njxY; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=vivaldi.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chaplintokyo@vivaldi.net designates 31.209.137.12 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chaplintokyo@vivaldi.net Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.vivaldi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBF9BD5F0 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:40:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.vivaldi.net ECBF9BD5F0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vivaldi.net; s=default; t=1726796413; bh=g1c4mEw45GSOJg6y31g3ZJ2h857ix2FFLHdfy2Cxt5M=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=F26ICVRAKTnnxHOo0AZrhJgh6jDfRx1zs1/YHgjbQFRlswjewsXCnWRASKxfLfvhl 64ju50xxJerWobH3zxmJyN7OxwKsLWOS0s2FQ2D3dVHXlAbhWUU2YnOLM4hhhPOlo4 l8V1D/1ZjCNIcTH3XU2XPCIXah+EBCGd7V7cXgbxGcXgtErYtR4/rjhdM0qrHTsUq6 7/udYx+exJbNfOvzhez7gCQ+GCugx0RbdYaCQnWBYjYHWbtgEtrP80eqjL0/jML45X qt8E0BkMSAi6rfFOxFc2GUlO43Bsj5m3URa2HvT1RbASnx5xGTDFwbrF9GwqtuEsG0 R4gh+q2aXphxQ== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.vivaldi.net Received: from smtp.vivaldi.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mxo.viv.dc01 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0V_kZzvim5qI for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 10:40:07 +0900 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.vivaldi.net 0F718BD37A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vivaldi.net; s=default; t=1726796411; bh=g1c4mEw45GSOJg6y31g3ZJ2h857ix2FFLHdfy2Cxt5M=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Sbc6njxYaazo+MTIpkcoR+/1hiDONIUikih5dZvxCEpUQP/ywKdobPuCJcsqnhbqW ZjA+jQeno8CP+oYVZFwE7Qyuv6Yz1dRICBthbBi6kmHswLLK9YTSNBNyJq/q39DxOc CQ121cjxRfUj3A8n4Fym/4hSIYIh9ZnXbex+2OEtxWHPo1HjMgg2M2FjFg8zJP2dmn PHBgnKIDhjQ7YaMj2Y0u4HcUzkNzikKk6S4iNOKPgm96Qv904FJt/HwEN3MR982Jkv 1s2xvvEW6O6JWFIuAzaWSpJH6U2D3++nKVd0wKSHUw+n0e8sVVzAW9y5XkpLdJUzLL AT0ZF9n5ukR9A== From: Hotaka Korenori To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[vivaldi.net,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:31.209.137.12]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[vivaldi.net:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[31.209.137.12:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51896, ipnet:31.209.136.0/21, country:IS]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[vivaldi.net:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X8w7N3z9gz43JX X-Spamd-Bar: - List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org I'm trying out mutt on my GhostBSD installation right at this moment. I kind of like it. It works, and is definitely faster than the Evolution on my set up. Still trying to work out how to switch between multiple email accounts though... Anyway, my ten cent's worth (from a newbie). On 2024-09-18 15:33, void wrote: > I use mail/mutt. Massively configurable, imap support is excellent, > and it's quick even on feeble hardware. > -- > From nobody Fri Sep 20 15:42:54 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X9Gqm3RbXz5XcC7 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosotic@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9Gql707Vz4bFW for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosotic@gmx.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.com; s=s31663417; t=1726846976; x=1727451776; i=drosotic@gmx.com; bh=OCVDFUljNxWCs/anyXosIUlx5ec4xPtLtMvs7XqnqnY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=Ki5eNN1pvQORyDuvZHoIhaeIcoUVmQgc7tRrIWiQpwehkeEi4aA43udYPJFMBjb8 HtvI6Ge1ZKqx2k1Z5y9AzSsGX/p0YL4SPiW+4hlvCLEO+02szlrrcWtdykaL+t1ej 7vtqBXuDuofoBmi9uA/NSxJk469lxkO7KdscKL6uNQB0lm7YSVHOHRUavoggdub/G tmpMGeha3hQQYBcx98fzaLruTKW3gEaEOUZmE2GlDj3yVAZ/LHIFLod/4zW4myPTg YVT/bqiUOff5fkvemCxno83U7P7IJvzPO9kGaXj4k7NyX3SoIx4z4yZwjPXbJPmNe XeXcD//VyWlPCVecXg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from drosot.icus ([88.172.234.138]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MZTmO-1sVCfZ3rFO-00KOqQ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:42:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:42:54 +0200 From: Darius Rosotic To: Hotaka Korenori Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:6JkLMRj2ZpH6qU6XP1iHQJQgiwmsAoE6op8ztV+ypGX4D5u+n8g b92iGXpkyo3bG+X/WQVzWRXHMlPmxmsQ9gpd5tjQpe2WBo58vmcEBWlgnmhVRNh/0HogKYa Q8PLDIN1lC/6Wu8SKKBPMEN3v8vqIlAjKuHVRlV9VfdcReUOZRK85F62lg7bJLIFQ+9Md+7 QJRIXCeJTP9jrAIqCHWng== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:aknO5mqejNA=;dCrAoHeYZceS1D8+33UtTCWbx26 xrJM2szgjGkrXSPkNL9YCEoPsRwPEVSr02nHg6kUhweRdVF+V48wQ86f2isKzBq0esxheVAki jGnF10WuAW3yjOtWxhSX71ZnPpqWk7t6YKG6qGd4PKMixi6doVvrDFasmak0uAfn4xBjytimM jDqSo8ezdGRwJxN0JG7s5lUwPDYKU8DSWzNqUF7H6ulfxoewmw8VYmqnwuW3hgIFXpcf5FsMA RecZLCr/oLF9Mdi+fjLFCQu2c7hvYuvzLpAQNNUbM2rhyvONC55U7LY80r7lK+EGFofchZ6Ip ufqlirRUVYKcze3ATKlByrvQgfCYRcJqOtVA5Es1TA2jy5oV/csSTBRMR/5r9XFEN39nys3se 3CpA6jthjFixY3FpASKC/kPY+oZmutVA/VEv90Cs4eaDWigNT2hJGCHVQ5coO4xdJbdhsWJuc ri9o88z3k2j2EqLt4l6cWa5yXu7/TncWnGR8RlYVCqhtgTJSmvIYEBCTlDEaamRolJ7liRjcH XGPJ1OKS3Dk+DTqmPJ3UG2KUvTQA8PTcNfpEW0y/Y0aqMSD9p5Xx9agBy+eSfrC0cjjN7+C8P c6v6zxN41zUQWbc0RDrHUCJdWOV8TGkrE3NxF1cJJ5jWuVMpTuISceH6MPhjlAA6/2/wtlPLt Z+xg5dhwV9rhE9d9Q8M309JNEtPjKjhRa1gcOMBSaARq4eZedvLnDKcBJErctLRFTqGBgImwT cLB0TH1FtqeMI5KisMM9WXVnqIPoxv7wSM4BFztCvvclO9ec7VOi9DtKaFEr6pGhG+VcXdsn5 rVZMOy14AZ0hOLeV1oLA3XVQ== X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9Gql707Vz4bFW X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 2024-09-20 10:40:07, Hotaka Korenori wrote: > I'm trying out mutt on my GhostBSD installation right at this > moment. I kind of like it. It works, and is definitely faster > than the Evolution on my set up. Still trying to work out how to > switch between multiple email accounts though... Anyway, my ten > cent's worth (from a newbie). Hello, I have one file 'muttrc' per accounts: ~/mutt/muttrc_alpha ~/mutt/muttrc_beta ~/mutt/muttrc_gamma For instance if I want to lauch mutt for a specific account: mutt -F ~/mutt/muttrc_alpha Within a mutt session if I want to switch to another account: :source ~/mutt/muttrc_beta Hope it helps. Regards, Darius From nobody Fri Sep 20 16:52:21 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X9JMr0DfQz5W7Gm for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9JMq0CN1z4qnX for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=iecc.com header.s=734666eda845.k2409 header.b=NynhwcWf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=iecc.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johnl@iecc.com designates 2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johnl@iecc.com Received: (qmail 29513 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2024 16:52:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=734666eda845.k2409; t=1726851131; x=1727196731; bh=rqrh2BpFADve0uCrrQ0Y6p2DlcO6JvdTfoIIRYn2fBc=; b=NynhwcWfmz0jcESFlr4UYbQYT2M5UiUvjko7kMi4nTCDkYW4rE9RU7+XT1ONvAeiyiO3OeykInWPFtQEvhAyapwFfW27Sg0N0kDL3StnU3+bICfk6K3hR2VUX7gQNKUxg1h0YZcsVpu341J5KsuDsi8T5fc3fk3Etprb3GLbezoD31IUg2urrlkO8aNRfS7E5D/yeycIpPvWC+mLPQvAmuvXWkJNEulKXC24RkZRU+D+MGz0M8KAmKifwMb6zDtPeyG9JUOCm+WajoAElAxLRca1k/pvkwHFwLdXiUUh+1p/Ip/LNrqF/Zuqixdy8sSezWskDlYMqeH9Sjeurard3A== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 20 Sep 2024 16:52:21 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0DE479478934; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 12:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: 20 Sep 2024 12:52:21 -0400 Message-Id: <20240920165221.0DE479478934@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: ml@netfence.it Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks References: X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.40 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[iecc.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iecc.com,none]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.40)[2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461:from,2001:470:1f07:1126:0:78:696d:6170:received]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iecc.com:s=734666eda845.k2409]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9JMq0CN1z4qnX X-Spamd-Bar: ------ It appears that Andrea Venturoli said: >What I absolutely need: >_ close to perfect IMAP support; >_ IMAP tags/labels; >_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10 >daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; >_ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached >messages (for others); >_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); >_ CardDAV support; >_ good searching; >_ performance, stability, future support, etc... Alpine does all of that except CardDAV. I have an IMAP folder with 400,000 dmarc reports and Alpine handles it just fine, with dovecot as the IMAP server. You can put as many folders in multiple accounts as you want in the default list to search and/or go to folders in different accounts separately. I have about six IMAP accounts and two local mail folder collections. It has its own address book, dunno if there's a way to connect it to CardDAV. Alpine is actively maintained and there is a port that keeps up with it. If you remember how Pine looked 20 years ago, that's what Alpine looks like now. R's, John From nobody Fri Sep 20 17:34:34 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X9KJc1HpCz5WL8q for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9KJb3pb9z40Hr for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=n9tHpJ2n; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net Received: from fews02-sea.riseup.net (fews02-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.112]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9KJY4zHLzDqV7 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:34:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1726853677; bh=d1y4+tc66RY7alUby+0OrKKTpwXY40lhPtuTxgAJJDs=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=n9tHpJ2nudOv/M6uaUMP8poQEndhWIKV93Ahesq7jjkd5t2qiCx9g1P2EUNnxU8A+ cqlrRX1OXptRU2B/WVger8mkG9M0ey6lw8NzWdznJFnjViy7emmIV0vwxbto6D1xjL ZUWpM9GGtW6oXW0PRX98NncyZ4GaTJ20WMDerRhM= X-Riseup-User-ID: 60546ABE68DB6E823AF3A65862E5F7833030BE05CF803AFEAFE3F991F775080C Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews02-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4X9KJY1lSQzFw4T for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <57e22e610b9230d46ada9aad0f4fd61b7f50e802.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 19:34:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20240920165221.0DE479478934@ary.qy> References: <20240920165221.0DE479478934@ary.qy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.20 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx1.riseup.net]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9KJb3pb9z40Hr X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Hi, I'm going to keep my opinions on MUAs to a minimum, but it might be worth considering whether a single threaded MUA could be problematic. Regards, Ralf From nobody Fri Sep 20 18:29:39 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTP id 4X9LX96N7Pz5Wbm2 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+bf437e.4958c-freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@mail.chaky.eu) Received: from m204-226.eu.mailgun.net (m204-226.eu.mailgun.net [161.38.204.226]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPS id 4X9LX931Gjz4D4s for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+bf437e.4958c-freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@mail.chaky.eu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.chaky.eu; q=dns/txt; s=email; t=1726856983; x=1726864183; h=In-Reply-To: References: To: To: From: From: Subject: Subject: Message-Id: Date: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Sender: Sender; bh=h6+nS2jaDd6q+/cVKdquYwYGYrgmbSyh2T5klxDbnws=; b=aScPIguOxwYE4sp65kZkk5PjdEiQ7N5EaoABnOI4dJLbVy6kVbF2BAJX+4CE75EezX1ChWPljb0I7kwk30lFxsmh0Y4/9BkM3ssbZK+jwnqkrn0kjd9fajwO0S+jsyPmj70h6OyHBVsM6zWVa4QgZuy5Hz+f8O4919GBbkBYku4= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 161.38.204.226 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyI2ZGQ3MyIsImZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIiwiNDk1OGMiXQ== Received: from mail.chaky.eu (unknown [93.140.112.60]) by 2b7ead5f3984 with SMTP id 66edbf15a03c00733e753efd; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:29:41 GMT Sender: ncakelic=chaky.eu@mail.chaky.eu DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chaky.eu; s=mail; t=1726856980; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=h6+nS2jaDd6q+/cVKdquYwYGYrgmbSyh2T5klxDbnws=; b=Gdp8My5M947Olat8G7GXDA15/CqHcP/WuQEqX+LHwq0gv8O+GLjLvQPjrUtk24ezO2v2ye G8qwDMhosFuaB2rZ/lFKHDzMjoBxSExDlSVtAdrB2FUdHm50zUsDqkjdzCP09Y/+gvbJhD bFL4nymsKmuqfdkP9VrnbBC6fVIBXlgaFLWlIciv3+aCqVN8WHJ2YyCIiql+8uPvKUeSz3 L1VX/DAfwxrGZ/wWPG/gqVnPjXsHjofs5Hze074iW2Xi5AiSaONPi5F7a4FN7ZLY40TZuC 1/ATjnuKpOlXhjwQh5Paa+eQvP7OJj24uJ5FqqzBGGMp/3joN1ds56NWIJov6g== Received: by mail.chaky.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id b2caa66d (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 20 Sep 2024 20:29:40 +0200 (CEST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=7cf07ad6e4f0571e26c0e23035681be59afcc9bdfb74b1248c03ff954a50; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 20:29:39 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client From: "Nikola Cakelic" To: "Hotaka Korenori" , X-Mailer: aerc 0.18.2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[bf437e.4958c-freebsd-questions=freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:161.38.204.0/23, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9LX931Gjz4D4s X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated --7cf07ad6e4f0571e26c0e23035681be59afcc9bdfb74b1248c03ff954a50 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri Sep 20, 2024 at 3:40 AM CEST, Hotaka Korenori wrote: > I'm trying out mutt on my GhostBSD installation right at this moment. I kind of like it. It works, and is definitely faster than the Evolution on my set up. Still trying to work out how to switch between multiple email accounts though... Anyway, my ten cent's worth (from a newbie). Hi, In my NeoMutt config e.g. ~/.neomuttrc I have this setup for multiple account switching: # Default account source "~/.neomutt/neomutt.account.acc1" # Folder hooks folder-hook 'neomutt.account.acc1' 'source ~/.neomutt/neomutt.account.acc1' folder-hook 'neomutt.account.acc2' 'source ~/.neomutt/neomutt.account.acc2' # Macros to switch accounts macro index "unmailboxes *source ~/.neomutt/neomutt.account.acc1!" macro index "unmailboxes *source ~/.neomutt/neomutt.account.acc2!" And then, when NeoMutt is running, pressing F2 or F3 switches from one account to another. Please note that ~/.neomutt/neomutt.account.acc{1,2} has account configuration for each account. Hope this helps. There is an entry in ArchLinux Wiki (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mutt#Multiple_accounts) on how to setup multiple accounts in Mutt. 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Massively configurable, imap support is excellent, >> and it's quick even on feeble hardware. >> -- >> > Hi, >Hello, >I also use mutt for many years, it's flawless. >Multiple accounts and protocols (POP & IMAP). >I even use it for consulting plain text mailing list archives. I would like to use neomutt/mutt as my main email client but my family still sends attachments and html emails. can mutt/neomutt open them ? if so how or could you point me somehwere that can help. Thanks Joe From nobody Sat Sep 21 06:43:46 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X9fqG4tNdz5XQxF for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosotic@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9fqF3lKWz4DyF for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosotic@gmx.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.com; s=s31663417; t=1726901028; x=1727505828; i=drosotic@gmx.com; bh=Fnfwlpcs5Vo6s9nXDoe2J1jl856yez+6f94ei8qZD7Y=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=rUhHcHtTi61l4iXdll7HSQUtVI9Iqjf9qIuYGIpa/PX0xbIx5n+koA/8bCknmhXX 7XCQiHu+zUunq8Vq5LS9Guc6pdtG9UfEYIBjKGdTtXMfUzeUWpk9zfFbosRGwLhmG SkfbQhybVCPv8MFAYqwMg0K9+euO1nLIOqLAtmZ5bOpWNPedPx8T/am47Seom05PR rZrR2vTA4gEU8ucTsNsf8jc5Dy81QsXlpTKdCiCp1cO6K7YlQBvhqZCjvfum8+4o0 5+l/GidqzXLsYtN2hyeQfUwVO2UkIYnuViOg7/gGM/ToWc4gC86xczgX4uqG4QaP6 e5jIN39rXs9ah324DQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from drosot.icus ([88.172.234.138]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MXp9Y-1sSVlQ1PLA-00MV2c; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:43:48 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:43:46 +0200 From: Darius Rosotic To: Joe B Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Q/zWqPUXxxOA9F83IyC1MC4HwegMHI+7qPeF6EEX6F1TGFXKbTl 3ciHRa9FcQ9WSph5gjZNiRyBe88mWn/nTQFokobHgkpB5jXwys3pyQUf2B5ySgHSSdV8Q1Z bHWAu6K3TSW8syTR/pG51JW6qpXbDMcF8vHk0jsBRqFHEccNqT809ajhSPnPtcwkgZ02WCz KPJUpHPMbA/hUukHaiasQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:MSIWFrr25/E=;YWiVnl6wfWwrvV8jwZL0ECDiGqy 9hwAzTy+1Rqm4eaqqDVRjy8N/7wQuGsyVJ7IKfQgRaNi4Dc1apvW0gQa1FoSJ+lIPei+4TU00 NilLr4m7dOq42+a/ZW8eYWPzaAuzjKSZp5mSn5zLdXMqMkePuhCl+uIHB872aV6LOcqKK8d30 al07TxGrOBr81K6NK6GZTI/BNHeZ4rpi2JBwU+K76oXd+F2IP/3OMZ7HaJcWMl1+n77L45vJv 4RUGU/WkcTH9jVNx6wJLiyyeYPXnIGye24Pb4Pwl8zD+/XLtXi5ykA3muaobGNe+25pyF0ZYP CiI1d0C0hhGamMamOMD5hQXoaPLdY1MXSaXV8uiFpFmNoqWT3Z5HLC7h/9OZX0uiYNdSMB/3F MxhvlywnBEvRs9gFQPEFEr2qtJLhYSWwIdkjXE6450Rv+vduLSnhvj4NqPiVH5TC86jYe1Cie 37JyIAj1CQeM/rTkjUTd1Ce5Vnu25Y5UfxkVrE/B4qTrQAjM6HDeRa8fAAhHHfst8DyI2bYl+ BQMNp0Qz6O/IfhTfhEpbbMFZFYZkfyoN0aabKrh770yCDqWs7szwmjSxmjm5m05jSCSDz9m33 1Pwj7NL5BL+IbpMFWuxg4Bjk474wU2oDnEuVYdudBsz2cVjRWIoh6MZzBuz8aGh7jl23s65Zl Tqpe1YmmS3uxpF/cJHaFt7z+/8GK1QVP+N27m58orKGBh+oMwdp9VlfIIRjN5OSwGd1QwFoPk L+dZ8zJEySBTQiwPINVUsZ5VzMVokg1f+9YubbBkG2KOjadSnaBZrlnVKxeUUPMDvIXM9WJQ7 H5ojjnLRdZjd9yFTBd4p+vNQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9fqF3lKWz4DyF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 2024-09-21 00:00:55, Joe B wrote: > I would like to use neomutt/mutt as my main email client but my family > still sends attachments and html emails. can mutt/neomutt open them ? > if so how or could you point me somehwere that can help. > > Thanks > > Joe Hello, In my "muttrc" file, I set a path to a "mailcap" file. A "mailcap" file explains how to handle different kind of file types. set mailcap_path =3D "/home/me/mutt/mailcap" In this file I have this code to say that I want "HTML" attachments opened with Firefox: # html text/html; /usr/local/bin/firefox --new-window '%s' & sleep 2; \ description=3DHTML Text; test=3Dtest -n "$DISPLAY"; \ nametemplate=3D%s.html Then, in "mutt", to see the list of attachments of a message, you have to hit the key: v To open an "HTML" attachment, you have to select the line, then hit the key: m Firefox opens the "HTML" attachment in a new window. Hope it helps. Darius From nobody Sat Sep 21 08:21:07 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X9hzV50CSz5XZZm for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@pobox.com) Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (pb-smtp2.pobox.com [64.147.108.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9hzT5hjJz4Nfm for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@pobox.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=xGkIAVqF; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vogelke@pobox.com designates 64.147.108.71 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vogelke@pobox.com Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7C527C04; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:21:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vogelke@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=sasl; bh=EwEoE16hk4K+5i8E1jj8QyQ1ga kJ6D4Yi0X2P5d+Uls=; b=xGkIAVqFWwjD/PYHmHw+b33bNvuvdHKPpcGXNalpoB kFb2LR9Qre+BVhgqBBWMQ7Mgs3teF80a5CISs4j4VYxcqmzp4bKdzonZgUp+r3ES SNL4hwU8nESOR8CLk4A4Tm/9gPHjAvK+RWoigD1+G+RHnNHV5zxR+ccg7h7whTYN k= Received: from pb-smtp2.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F0F27C03; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:21:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vogelke@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [98.29.137.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2666527C02; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:21:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vogelke@pobox.com) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:21:07 -0400 From: Karl Vogel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: Reply-To: vogelke@pobox.com References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: B9B0 D8CF 0413 515D BED4 B507 C123 B01E C8AE 08E9 X-PGP-URL: X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 73E18646-77F2-11EF-9E2F-9B0F950A682E-01134313!pb-smtp2.pobox.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[pobox.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.108.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pobox.com:s=sasl]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.147.108.71:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[pobox.com:dkim]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19151, ipnet:64.147.108.0/24, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[vogelke@pobox.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pobox.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9hzT5hjJz4Nfm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Sat 21 Sep 2024 at 02:44:07 (-0400), Darius Rosotic wrote: > On 2024-09-21 00:00:55, Joe B wrote: > A "mailcap" file explains how to handle different kind of file types. > set mailcap_path = "/home/me/mutt/mailcap" > > In this file I have this code to say that I want "HTML" attachments > opened with Firefox: > text/html; /usr/local/bin/firefox ... In my mailcap file, I use this for inline viewing of HTML: text/html; /usr/local/bin/lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.htm; copiousoutput I can also see images in a separate window: image/*; /usr/local/bin/feh %s -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for anyone but myself Comment: Don't put on the BOFH hat immediately. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 87e3613e560ad9912087847d07063322; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 10:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 12:24:15 +0200 From: Vitor Sonoki To: Joe B Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: <20240921122415.509b48aa@parchmanl-003> In-Reply-To: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.43; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/6kS=lCpSw=.2jFTcrupjFQg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9lk03PNfz4f7P X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated --Sig_/6kS=lCpSw=.2jFTcrupjFQg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:00:55 +0000 Joe B wrote: > I would like to use neomutt/mutt as my main email client but my family > still sends attachments and html emails. can mutt/neomutt open them ? > if so how or could you point me somehwere that can help. You can install www/elinks (pkg install elinks), a text-based browser that can "dump" the output of an HTML message rendered as plain text straight into the terminal. Then you can add a mailcap entry (~/.mutt/mailcap) like this: text/html; /usr/local/bin/elinks %s ; copiousoutput And then mutt will automatically invoke elinks and render HTML emails straight into the mutt viewport. No need to press 'v' and 'm' or open an external browser or anything. It's very natural, quick, and I use it in mutt all the time. You can send attachments with mutt by pressing 'a' after composing the text of your message. Hope this helps; mutt is one amazing mail client once you get used to it! --- Vitor --Sig_/6kS=lCpSw=.2jFTcrupjFQg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEEUKrb3gnvh0S6Mz5gek5xpzcWgSIFAmbuns8ACgkQek5xpzcW gSJ4OQv/cAo6rsS/gB4AnOmpGzTG8BdvqNKzrNJhdpVv9WB1wT2bEnVwsLw3PKHp C8+2y2ejXd9un4SE0TYiqBrnDQRguuSJf7UJUlHjQ+MA9RmwkTqLIKhnXEwqKDva x01BbyJbndIXEVzuJWaxkwc5+UEM2UK23kpxw/uopB9xlCT/c0Mc5WX0sC1CckgI YVBphSQ2MHaZo0c6noOxH1YnuzjXdrp6lLk1uxszQMuvMPiIXemhhHgk4EJiugjm GFVdAUyxGKA8i3qNA1QlQPuRALUs2Nt742bi4rHoniXTDizkSaA5nKGuaGGXG6ix yWibzACQRarMKAgG9DbZ3o5krUii9CoIUQ5h22AVDiaXFEqDnt8+3MgJlV4UBo/s MVBGBRzpYXFtcL/hX7RQiIJuidGqtIjyLC2z0aSLl3eFfA1Z4hMemp5+wQFdmlVH 52eqEDfHjC080pxF0UYfJeG/Pf/WgcaUY1C/sdFm8KQx4/mVSrSTIu9M/OsmDU+G ejOPn9Sl =JxRn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/6kS=lCpSw=.2jFTcrupjFQg-- From nobody Sat Sep 21 19:03:51 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X9zFF48C8z5XD1v for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 19:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-0201.mail-europe.com (mail-0201.mail-europe.com [51.77.79.158]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailout.proton.ch", Issuer "mailout.proton.ch" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X9zFF25Zsz4H7G for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 19:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1726945435; x=1727204635; bh=Q5o6xCT/ZrXxxwxlx6aQoKi9Y0ODU/r0hlwQ2q3bx/A=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=dfwmMTIaDO4sTQxtVANZJ+Gc4SS22k2bt4LWCvm6E6CDib2sEVkUj4HX+xptUdVnR 7z6pEUjVahzFta1T/y25lEy0lt02oP76zvrGV2b0136mzs7A87vQhjDVnliICMVb6g qZ2BE0XoVYwI/LrCj4JnXJScm/9ySP2dtQ8OL69TE+c2mt72KRf+lqjlS2S+jxsgGI iHSq+sHhI/CAlZ1QL0P97b5Uctukq4Tg6S1MHTIF3CS/q3MSRgtQY6Uo+dFlLPtXui 8WzSotg0WrWCmYqeUW61offTKDAeobKy1wJVYhBpWR4IUE2zWSqkQlw8dJhrvtLJ6/ mfovMPDGEOZAg== Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 19:03:51 +0000 To: Vitor Sonoki From: Joe B Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20240921122415.509b48aa@parchmanl-003> References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> <20240921122415.509b48aa@parchmanl-003> Feedback-ID: 120396043:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: dfa198d654b89e6302cbd45676cc33d8601d83fb List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:51.77.0.0/16, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X9zFF25Zsz4H7G X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On Saturday, September 21st, 2024 at 3:24 AM, Vitor Sonoki wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:00:55 +0000 > Joe B josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com wrote: >=20 > > I would like to use neomutt/mutt as my main email client but my family > > still sends attachments and html emails. can mutt/neomutt open them ? > > if so how or could you point me somehwere that can help. >=20 >=20 > You can install www/elinks (pkg install elinks), a text-based browser > that can "dump" the output of an HTML message rendered as plain text > straight into the terminal. Then you can add a mailcap entry > (~/.mutt/mailcap) like this: >=20 > text/html; /usr/local/bin/elinks %s ; copiousoutput >=20 > And then mutt will automatically invoke elinks and render HTML emails > straight into the mutt viewport. No need to press 'v' and 'm' or open an > external browser or anything. It's very natural, quick, and I use it in > mutt all the time. >=20 > You can send attachments with mutt by pressing 'a' after composing the > text of your message. Thanks for the feedback. I will try it as soon as i get next to the laptop Thanks Joe From nobody Sat Sep 21 22:01:44 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XB3BV51Psz5X56W for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwp@proulx.com) Received: from havoc.proulx.com (havoc.proulx.com [198.99.81.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XB3BT28Gsz4r6Q for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwp@proulx.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=proulx.com header.s=dkim2048 header.b=gpMXB031; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=proulx.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rwp@proulx.com designates 198.99.81.74 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rwp@proulx.com Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD8202B4 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 16:01:45 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1726956105; bh=qAHR3uzcR9jG+M0Ime2YrrHtfCvSgfYekjoE7tFdP0M=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=gpMXB031ONbvfaN46wEUC0X7HNuKJAGW0cqZYK8nJDT+sinaCjW8jrxN7wxHXYHu+ 9D7RIhPNy5fvHrE/H+XKoYBH27lpdJtiBfXjvH49mvh7X/BZzDwrNk1C16DLWMXbda DK5cIDyK8CUeZsuLbYi5BtcjgS/+r7CEZkGHsJr5QBQjWVvc3heNtd1tUnaSyL1WY7 ZvLvKEjXNwi6mw11NWd19oNUcyz+MmYQEy5qOm5CTdjV7dM541D46zuSyIKXNO7uAu qhe/Qdme/7K+puMJDz/PDUla5rc7SSrA+NDovhG/rUCzgST7UHByAdvDEINwYFXgin AKkG5k8iTis7A== Received: from madness.proulx.com (madness.proulx.com [192.168.230.122]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBED27A00E for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 16:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by madness.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CDAD6880F6; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 16:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 16:01:44 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: <20240921154512502717312@bob.proulx.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[proulx.com,none]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[bob@proulx.com,rwp@proulx.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[proulx.com:s=dkim2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:397142, ipnet:198.99.80.0/22, country:US]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bob@proulx.com,rwp@proulx.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[proulx.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XB3BT28Gsz4r6Q X-Spamd-Bar: --- Karl Vogel wrote: > Darius Rosotic wrote: > > In this file I have this code to say that I want "HTML" attachments > > opened with Firefox: > > text/html; /usr/local/bin/firefox ... > > In my mailcap file, I use this for inline viewing of HTML: > text/html; /usr/local/bin/lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.htm; copiousoutput > > I can also see images in a separate window: > image/*; /usr/local/bin/feh %s I only object to the full hard coded paths there making that a non-portable mailcap file. In my ~/.mailcap file I have all of the text mode html dumpers commented with my currently preferred one uncommented. As time goes by and depending upon the html one will do a better rendering job than another one will on different types of html. I am preferring "links" at the moment but as you can tell I select among the selection as my whims dictate. # text/html; firefox %s; description=HTML Text; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; nametemplate=%s.html # text/html; elinks -dump -dump-color-mode 3 %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html # text/html; elinks -dump %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html text/html; links -dump %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html # text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html # text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html # text/html; w3m -no-mouse -T text/html %s; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html If this does not produce something reasonable for me then I 'v'iew the mime parts, j and k down to the text/html part, 's'ave it to a file usually for me ~/tmp/mail.html (selecting overwriting of the previous) and then in my running Firefox I click my toolbar bookmark to open the file:///home/rwp/tmp/mail.html bookmark which renders the email message in the full html web browser. I like this strategy because most of the time if I must view the text/html part then one of links, elinks, lynx, w3m will do a good display of it. I can read it and move along. But for those pesky HTML emails that don't render that way or that require my input I can transfer the file to the web browser and handle it there. Additionally I also have image and pdf entries too. application/pdf; /usr/local/bin/xpdf %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; description=Portable Document Format; nametemplate=%s.pdf application/x-pdf; /usr/local/bin/xpdf %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; description=Portable Document Format; nametemplate=%s.pdf application/pdf; pdftotext -layout %s -; copiousoutput; description=Portable Document Format; nametemplate=%s.pdf image/gif; feh -FZ '%s'; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ; description=GIF Image; nametemplate=%s.gif image/jpeg; feh -FZ '%s'; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ; description=JPEG Image; nametemplate=%s.jpeg image/png; feh -FZ '%s'; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ; description=PNG Image; nametemplate=%s.png Plus some other useful ones. text/plain; less %s; needsterminal text/x-diff; cat; copiousoutput application/msword; catdoc %s; copiousoutput; description="MS Word Text"; application/vnd.ms-excel; libreoffice %s; edit=libreopenoffice '%s'; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; nametemplate=%s.xls; description="Microsoft Excel Document" Sometimes I get an email with atypical types and create an entry on the fly and then use it. I test for $DISPLAY so that when I log into my system remotely using ssh rather than being on my desktop console that the best available entry is automatically selected. I get text only options when $DISPLAY is not set. I get graphical choices. Bob From nobody Sun Sep 22 07:20:57 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XBHbj5Q7Nz5XX5w for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 07:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-4316.protonmail.ch (mail-4316.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.16]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XBHbh41Rlz42bP for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 07:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.c.bailey@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1726989661; x=1727248861; bh=jwmPifkZpMkf2sdEQybFsd1RUGrNWTYqGsGALOCkh50=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=h0waQb+ITVevhoufLfYjA4wpcmN7DDk+TJbcoxvw+vC4+IzShEacETIow4wUsl9bY +ZeJCCCIY34HgRrn0sU15QjfifYEX2u4dspF3vmtCGXdgTMMNX9n8IBWoly1qs6RvB KGpSw4DN5fN/lAyDQIxOpOt1oNaCFbq8Oq2jVIvALz3APF9fMGX1Vws2Ll8lZSXRO0 fXKsfZ5Ap8OEjO0EKicQssS3L3zZhNE52cTX584ec3dveK79TSLFguTuG3uLds2hHj q9UGLQjADiGZ5mZ1Av6CmcD8hAPRXaRWic0oIGM6zOLF+3lp6agpW1viKMVrVVi6T/ wvNC43/F/SBjA== Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 07:20:57 +0000 To: Vitor Sonoki From: Joe B Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20240921122415.509b48aa@parchmanl-003> References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> <20240921122415.509b48aa@parchmanl-003> Feedback-ID: 120396043:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 19e8df2a0a7764a6455012f537114f81f28fe284 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XBHbh41Rlz42bP X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 21.09.2024 03:24, Vitor Sonoki wrote: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:00:55 +0000 >Joe B wrote: > >> I would like to use neomutt/mutt as my main email client but my family >> still sends attachments and html emails. can mutt/neomutt open them ? >> if so how or could you point me somehwere that can help. > >You can install www/elinks (pkg install elinks), a text-based browser >that can "dump" the output of an HTML message rendered as plain text >straight into the terminal. Then you can add a mailcap entry >(~/.mutt/mailcap) like this: > >=09text/html; /usr/local/bin/elinks %s ; copiousoutput > >And then mutt will automatically invoke elinks and render HTML emails >straight into the mutt viewport. No need to press 'v' and 'm' or open an >external browser or anything. It's very natural, quick, and I use it in >mutt all the time. Hello, I'm trying this setup right now and I see the text from the html email in n= eomutt. Question is how can i view pdf's ? I think the only thing that will make ne= omutt my main Is if i can view pdf's jpegs/pngs I think that is the main ones that people= send. 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Sun, 22 Sep 2024 04:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:49:00 +0200 From: Dominic Reich To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <5wr52qrkvc7lp5cx4gd5vaadl6aq7wv5oslhi5w27beccznsxk@emcxnqvrtdp4> <20240921154512502717312@bob.proulx.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240921154512502717312@bob.proulx.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20240425 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[qtztsjosmprqmgtunjyf.com,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[qtztsjosmprqmgtunjyf.com:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.168.172.128/27]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[103.168.172.147:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209242, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[qtztsjosmprqmgtunjyf.com:+,messagingengine.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XBKYJ2ZS7z4GxY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Bob Proulx wrote: >In my ~/.mailcap file I have all of the text mode html dumpers >commented with my currently preferred one uncommented. As time goes >by and depending upon the html one will do a better rendering job than >another one will on different types of html. I am preferring "links" >at the moment but as you can tell I select among the selection as my >whims dictate. > > # text/html; firefox %s; description=HTML Text; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; nametemplate=%s.html > # text/html; elinks -dump -dump-color-mode 3 %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html > # text/html; elinks -dump %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html > text/html; links -dump %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html > # text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html > # text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html > # text/html; w3m -no-mouse -T text/html %s; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html > >If this does not produce something reasonable for me then I 'v'iew the >mime parts, j and k down to the text/html part, 's'ave it to a file >usually for me ~/tmp/mail.html (selecting overwriting of the previous) >and then in my running Firefox I click my toolbar bookmark to open the >file:///home/rwp/tmp/mail.html bookmark which renders the email >message in the full html web browser. I do have similar entries in my mailcap file, though I'm using a macro bound to 'V' to directly send the HTML file to librewolf/firefox. #v+ macro attach 'V' "iconv -c --to-code=UTF-8 > ~/Downloads/mutt_mail.htmllibrewolf ~/Downloads/mutt_mail.html" #v- -dominic -- Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing. - Theodore Roosevelt From nobody Sun Sep 22 09:09:15 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XBL0h5d9Nz5VgTh for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XBL0g3w7Mz4M3S for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.18.1/8.17.2) with ESMTPSA id 48M99FKI091583 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:09:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:09:15 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20240920165221.0DE479478934@ary.qy> Content-Language: en-US From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <20240920165221.0DE479478934@ary.qy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.47 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.68)[-0.680]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XBL0g3w7Mz4M3S X-Spamd-Bar: --- On 9/20/24 18:52, John Levine wrote: > Alpine does all of that except CardDAV. I have an IMAP folder with 400,000 Thank you for the suggestion, but I was looking for a GUI client. Thanks also to everyone who tried to help in any way. Currently I'm trying to setup a new profile in ThunderBird, as it seems this might solve the slowness. The reason I'm doing this, behind being accustomed to it, is that I need to support TB for my customers, so if I use it myself, it'll probably easier. If, after adding account after account, extension after extension, option after open, etc... it gets slower again, I'll try claws-mail first. bye av. From nobody Sun Sep 22 09:20:51 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XBLG13WbRz5Vnf9 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XBLG02v6rz4PyJ for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=MFMt7H2F; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net Received: from fews01-sea.riseup.net (fews01-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XBLFy1Dd8z9v7D for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:20:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1726996854; bh=RAf6yFd4GokJN/1neL22yaB1u40AtEIF1syixbdg7Iw=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=MFMt7H2F950y55I780pj73FfkAaWqut+T3w2bTJXDkEKvdX3tryClWCn1SpfmOzLa FUcb5QhOxhgkijaHY1UId31Snb7vyzov7hS4s8oZveQ60hoYG0BYNKq7/0kgKJDupY o+kytO9xK770bzW0MMJS7E/60h+rP2BhS5rD/hJU= X-Riseup-User-ID: 8870A92F19E0AC2D128EFD0DAA14A3D11867FD3358185619724A6D94D20B649E Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews01-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4XBLFx43jNzJs8b for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <01f232dff5995594b0f516266bc642fd0498e3f7.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:20:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20240920165221.0DE479478934@ary.qy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XBLG02v6rz4PyJ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 11:09 +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > If [...] I'll try claws-mail first. Hi, keep in mind that Claws can more or less only do one thing after the other [1]. Regards, Ralf [1] -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client Date: 09/20/2024 07:34:34 PM Mailer: Evolution 3.54.0=20 Hi, I'm going to keep my opinions on MUAs to a minimum, but it might be worth considering whether a single threaded MUA could be problematic. Regards, Ralf