From nobody Tue Aug 4 09:16:10 2026 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hDnwS1M2Kz6mrTC for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 09:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.116.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hDnwQ5mkJz3Rfl for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 09:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cs.huji.ac.il header.s=57791128 header.b="Hv/QbW/s"; dkim=none ("invalid DKIM record") header.d=cse.huji.ac.il header.s=57791128 header.b="06/VJagU"; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of danny@cs.huji.ac.il has no SPF policy when checking 132.65.116.210) smtp.mailfrom=danny@cs.huji.ac.il; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=huji.ac.il DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.huji.ac.il; s=57791128; h=To:Date:Message-Id:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From; bh=ODTzyLsZJfzN5DEpPGZ2aEG1T+VHOOOkNc6gG4yyYNc=; b=Hv/QbW/slmf1dLtF+lCEkMAK9dcNfGm55t/DK2K0w5/AcbY5GgwgOOT1i7BGXYdrliN5B8Y4ve/RH6n8YcQasq5gD0GBL5WgNzrfi3gdlmZ7a1ZsHZW1G2Wfz3Y+2ekrd9C04BA00z9TPA8kwYytcyS8YCiysRHr7gR31Cbrlnc7XCtEqzlMWTxiPNOAAdlipJtZCXDV7fF4MP9ne9MTsoKG3IdMon1SevWdXlIEVBOQGTlqL6T3UsK2jhio/oiomhF9JI2gwgl1xeDRSQzQqJLYMqPfXlfv58tCZc6qGQ4Mw/hUK2b4COJ73fjwc+9BKf1jZDy/QQ8VTkbm84f3/A==; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cse.huji.ac.il; s=57791128; h=To:Date:Message-Id:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From; bh=ODTzyLsZJfzN5DEpPGZ2aEG1T+VHOOOkNc6gG4yyYNc=; b=06/VJagUyLOGhvTO4kjPpFI3LDL5UpC/NrnnYb6wdi1fBQ72o8TZH/A4fp+1Ogl4tNMvzwKlep0CICfRi2wp1Jl0F4AjaYtSGhUML8K/s8xs/nf5ewZBwmFTobDKoVlPJbEIoZMCztrBVC1btBHFJONxQDENIvG+xcWuotrXBlL6R/w9+BQXc28MFccbtQdOGR0tdE+jmGf/LtvgxiuLv1DAWvYpeb0keZs8CR6x9NwVGCt7OK+2iGpk9s98+o7+nT+7Boeh3mye8JR9HmVCdm2W+juAgWsp3k3bdMPvH+bTRTlWGvKaDvJXMyF5AzLHdmIr10pIpoQquE9GtEgPFQ==; Received: from bach.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.20] helo=smtpclient.apple) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1wrBFs-00062H-Ri for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:16:12 +0300 From: Daniel Braniss Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6D70620C-D365-4D05-A78D-B99063EBDF5E" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.10\)) Subject: netstat fibbing Message-Id: <1543A7DB-705A-4F37-BCA3-DD409524918A@cs.huji.ac.il> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 12:16:10 +0300 To: Freebsd-stable List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.10) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.07 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[huji.ac.il:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.977]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[huji.ac.il,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cs.huji.ac.il:s=57791128]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cs.huji.ac.il:+,cse.huji.ac.il:~]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_MIXED(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[danny]; ASN(0.00)[asn:378, ipnet:132.64.0.0/15, country:IL]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[cse.huji.ac.il:s=57791128] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hDnwQ5mkJz3Rfl X-Spamd-Bar: ---- --Apple-Mail=_6D70620C-D365-4D05-A78D-B99063EBDF5E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi, seconds after boot netstat -i shows: ixl0 1500 44:49:88:06:c8:ec = 281474976712290 0 4294807372 281474976711906 0 = 0 ixl0 - 132.65.60.0/22 store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il = 1203 - = - 1254 - - this is freebsd 15.1 --Apple-Mail=_6D70620C-D365-4D05-A78D-B99063EBDF5E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii hi,
seconds after boot netstat -i = shows:
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=         ixl0 =      - 132.65.60.0/22   store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il          &nb= sp;  1203 =           - =           - =             12= 54           - =           -

this = is freebsd 15.1

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Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 14:20:55 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Marco Moock Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netstat fibbing Message-ID: References: <1543A7DB-705A-4F37-BCA3-DD409524918A@cs.huji.ac.il> <0c93bf00-88a7-4483-9601-89865331e00e@dorfdsl.de> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0c93bf00-88a7-4483-9601-89865331e00e@dorfdsl.de> Hi! > Am 04.08.26 um 11:16 schrieb Daniel Braniss: > > seconds after boot netstat -i shows: > > ixl0 1500 44:49:88:06:c8:ec 281474976712290 0 4294807372 281474976711906 0 0 > > ixl0 - 132.65.60.0/22 store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il 1203 - - 1254 - - > > > > this is freebsd 15.1 > > What's the problem with that? The numbers should be much smaller. It looks like a counter wrap-around ? -- pi@FreeBSD.org +49 171 3101372 Now what ? From nobody Tue Aug 4 12:30:12 2026 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hDtDR515wz6n90T for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juraj@lutter.sk) Received: from wsk-files-n1.wilbury.net (wsk-files-n1.wilbury.net [IPv6:2a01:4f9:2a:2851:95:216:42:37]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "svc.wilbury.net", Issuer "YE1" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hDtDR0ZHgz41sJ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juraj@lutter.sk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [217.73.28.193]) (Authenticated sender: juraj@lutter.sk) by svc.wilbury.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D2F0573A9; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 14:30:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=lutter.sk; s=eiZiej0iiyep; t=1785846623; bh=s+vJh1iI74DALaEu18sPLphNBjKat8AAcpw5KEeY8ZM=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=RIvz6j6+GHgwRsG4kN4vqeDhKPEKEwewLh/LWwuboIfHUrN2UYQTTof7CqXXGHVqX mJYH8RnGqzLI+nWtdoEg6zc7Sr9oN0tevjhXLnIbl2Qmcfq5jHlWyfZkFkHN5hVlkX zMuffxBL2eEpIUhTTiqdMT2g/kCV0Iqf70g59eFw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.700.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: netstat fibbing From: Juraj Lutter In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 14:30:12 +0200 Cc: Marco Moock , stable@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <52115572-7D52-418D-95BE-68EBCAD90409@lutter.sk> References: <1543A7DB-705A-4F37-BCA3-DD409524918A@cs.huji.ac.il> <0c93bf00-88a7-4483-9601-89865331e00e@dorfdsl.de> To: Kurt Jaeger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.700.51.1.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hDtDR0ZHgz41sJ X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f9::/32, country:DE] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- > On 4. Aug 2026, at 14:20, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 >> Am 04.08.26 um 11:16 schrieb Daniel Braniss: >>> seconds after boot netstat -i shows: >>> ixl0 1500 44:49:88:06:c8:ec = 281474976712290 0 4294807372 281474976711906 0 = 0 >>> ixl0 - 132.65.60.0/22 = store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il = 1203 - - 1254 - - >>>=20 >>> this is freebsd 15.1 >>=20 >> What's the problem with that? >=20 > The numbers should be much smaller. It looks like a counter = wrap-around ? Or a signed vs. unsigned format mismatch perhaps? =E2=80=94 Juraj Lutter Fediverse: otis@bsd.network BlueSky: @wilbury.net LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jurajlutter/ GSM: +421907986576 From nobody Tue Aug 4 13:22:10 2026 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hDvNN3SfBz6nF9R for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 13:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.116.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hDvNM53sZz3CZB; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 13:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.huji.ac.il; s=57791128; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From; bh=9bDUjNwXpkXiSlSGTuh0XsLABI8O4mijMhD9qkNaHFE=; b=C4gtCZrQI5SYzIPYhPlsXaqfaicnCwc4ZeMf3MNNfYS/MytO79E2gDX6AjeHJtlBsrTt4JRqVuws0FQf7BJeaWzriB/vNEgSMowvOdjC9Iysg/wvr6/Gc0anpGWGSymyyRqGqtLOIbgZ4olvdJCdbwbhqqO/HBzkwmc+S83RkwIAXgqKKZw+c3sS9YgAzXV1VUv2J8XWmtc3X0xoFgnEgA9LgEWk/uSu8h8dcYFZT9x2Ya7NsuO+xj+52CdtH4oOm+F6JojnMRYS9dwDPMEW5r/QzDBlWVj7Unu50PHNRu74zsVEvATAj1hA7PF7ynx9jQ9nQt8UJ7lIn/DrGufWig==; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cse.huji.ac.il; s=57791128; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From; bh=9bDUjNwXpkXiSlSGTuh0XsLABI8O4mijMhD9qkNaHFE=; b=qpVwqemCuFLStzES5/9OsQCwqLYrHStTZru+fFCS6lzwZg2JJEMYfIdYMeMIyquBfXpQ+YnD0nKJrkX99vNJXN229viHdb+LXvY6JpXl9RDzgRuuDQljzPgcP2/oKHNy6vIccnSr2e6aVuAhAdJVgMaErgBrhpWyqm1MNVJeah927eu4s9PFGWU+ZwYxVPrn7rY0Y0PeiqyFI9q088+hd5YAU8HmiMAQ1kvGa27WhKEqmRflZAeSzMnnV9bZPvvbhjhT/pO311M1oFix9waz3BTggEkoWp02ABCbpongzRVmLFTQO2M7I8d8EY6trwTpnzYPDAq8IWQoakFY3Z4mgg==; Received: from imac.bk.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.179.42] helo=smtpclient.apple) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1wrF67-00091e-28; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 16:22:23 +0300 From: Daniel Braniss Message-Id: <47A8DCEC-600E-42CD-A203-A7202D91490A@cs.huji.ac.il> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC1764EC-2113-4082-AD57-FABC12C984AA" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.600.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: netstat fibbing Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 16:22:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: Cc: Marco Moock , stable@freebsd.org To: Kurt Jaeger References: <1543A7DB-705A-4F37-BCA3-DD409524918A@cs.huji.ac.il> <0c93bf00-88a7-4483-9601-89865331e00e@dorfdsl.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.600.51.1.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hDvNM53sZz3CZB X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:378, ipnet:132.64.0.0/15, country:IL] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- --Apple-Mail=_CC1764EC-2113-4082-AD57-FABC12C984AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii this are numbers seconds after boot! and at this moment there should be no traffic. > On 4 Aug 2026, at 15:20, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 >> Am 04.08.26 um 11:16 schrieb Daniel Braniss: >>> seconds after boot netstat -i shows: >>> ixl0 1500 44:49:88:06:c8:ec = 281474976712290 0 4294807372 281474976711906 0 = 0 >>> ixl0 - 132.65.60.0/22 = store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il = 1203 - - 1254 - - >>>=20 >>> this is freebsd 15.1 >>=20 >> What's the problem with that? >=20 > The numbers should be much smaller. It looks like a counter = wrap-around ? >=20 > --=20 > pi@FreeBSD.org +49 171 3101372 = Now what ? --Apple-Mail=_CC1764EC-2113-4082-AD57-FABC12C984AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii this are numbers seconds after boot!
and at this moment there = should be no traffic.

On 4 = Aug 2026, at 15:20, Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> wrote:

Hi!

Am = 04.08.26 um 11:16 schrieb Daniel Braniss:
seconds after boot netstat -i shows:
ixl0 =   1500 <Link#3> =         44:49:88:06:c8:ec =        281474976712290 =           0 =  4294807372  281474976711906 =           0 =           0
 &nb= sp;      ixl0 =      - 132.65.60.0/22 =   store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il<http://store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il/>= =             12= 03           - =           - =             12= 54           - =           -

this = is freebsd 15.1

What's the problem with = that?

The numbers should be much smaller. It = looks like a counter wrap-around ?

-- 
pi@FreeBSD.org      = ;   +49 171 3101372 =             &n= bsp;    Now what = ?

= --Apple-Mail=_CC1764EC-2113-4082-AD57-FABC12C984AA-- From nobody Wed Aug 5 02:46:23 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hFFDB3RJ8z6JR58 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2026 02:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (tunnel82308-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "garrett.wollman.name", Issuer "YR2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hFFD873srz4QKq for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2026 02:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=bimajority.org (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu designates 2001:470:1f06:ccb::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 6752kOTl053655 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2026 22:46:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 6752kOF2053654; Tue, 4 Aug 2026 22:46:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <27250.41983.974395.276819@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 22:46:23 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Weird breakage on 14.4-p6 to 14.4-p8 upgrade X-Mailer: VM 8.3.2 under 30.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.4) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 04 Aug 2026 22:46:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=disabled version=4.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.2 (2025-08-27) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.52 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.62)[-0.623]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[wollman@bimajority.org,wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[bimajority.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[wollman]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[wollman@bimajority.org,wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hFFD873srz4QKq X-Spamd-Bar: -- On Monday I upgraded one of my servers from 14.4-p6 to 14.4-p8, and after the reboot, yaf (net-mgmt/yaf) immediately started crashing with SIGSEGV about once per CPU-minute. 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There's no core dump; the kernel logs: pid 4650 (yaf), jid 0, uid 65534: exited on signal 11 (no core dump - bad address) Anyone have any clues? -GAWollman From nobody Wed Aug 5 03:00:16 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hFFX83z5lz6JRSq for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2026 03:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (tunnel82308-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "garrett.wollman.name", Issuer "YR2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hFFX73KNjz3FJJ; Wed, 05 Aug 2026 03:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=bimajority.org (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu designates 2001:470:1f06:ccb::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 67530Ha2053863 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2026 23:00:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 67530HEe053862; Tue, 4 Aug 2026 23:00:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <27250.42816.996405.971780@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 23:00:16 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: des@freebsd.org Subject: [MAYBE NOT] Weird breakage on 14.4-p6 to 14.4-p8 upgrade In-Reply-To: <27250.41983.974395.276819@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <27250.41983.974395.276819@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> X-Mailer: VM 8.3.2 under 30.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.4) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 04 Aug 2026 23:00:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=disabled version=4.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.2 (2025-08-27) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.64 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.74)[-0.739]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[wollman@bimajority.org,wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2:c]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[bimajority.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[wollman]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[wollman@bimajority.org,wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hFFX73KNjz3FJJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- < On Monday I upgraded one of my servers from 14.4-p6 to 14.4-p8, and > after the reboot, yaf (net-mgmt/yaf) immediately started crashing with > SIGSEGV about once per CPU-minute. The package hasn't changed > (although I did force-reinstall it just to make sure there was no > corruption in the executable). [...] > pid 4650 (yaf), jid 0, uid 65534: exited on signal 11 (no core dump - bad address) It did just occur to me to check whether the package had been updated, and it has; des@ upgraded it to 2.19.3 in late June, and because of the way yaf gets started in my environment, while the binary was silently replaced, the running daemon probably never got restarted until I rebooted the server. 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Aug 2026, at 14:20, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >>=20 >> Hi! >>=20 >>> Am 04.08.26 um 11:16 schrieb Daniel Braniss: >>>> seconds after boot netstat -i shows: >>>> ixl0 1500 44:49:88:06:c8:ec = 281474976712290 0 4294807372 281474976711906 0 = 0 >>>> ixl0 - 132.65.60.0/22 = store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il = 1203 - - 1254 - - >>>>=20 >>>> this is freebsd 15.1 >>>=20 >>> What's the problem with that? >>=20 >> The numbers should be much smaller. It looks like a counter = wrap-around ? >=20 > Or a signed vs. unsigned format mismatch perhaps? >=20 > =E2=80=94 > Juraj Lutter > Fediverse: otis@bsd.network > BlueSky: @wilbury.net > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jurajlutter/ = > GSM: +421907986576 --Apple-Mail=_F8D06EE3-8FBC-4F2B-914E-445C3F14CAAF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 was = the ixl driver, a bios upgrade solved the issue.

danny


On 4 Aug 2026, at 15:30, Juraj Lutter <juraj@lutter.sk> = wrote:



On 4. Aug 2026, at 14:20, Kurt Jaeger = <pi@freebsd.org> = wrote:

Hi!

Am 04.08.26 um 11:16 = schrieb Daniel Braniss:
seconds after boot netstat -i shows:
ixl0 =   1500 <Link#3> =         44:49:88:06:c8:ec =        281474976712290 =           0 =  4294807372  281474976711906 =           0 =           0
       ixl0 =      - 132.65.60.0/22   store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il<http://store-09s.cs.huji.ac.il/> =             12= 03           - =           - =             12= 54           - =           -

this is freebsd 15.1

What's the problem with that?

The numbers should be much = smaller. It looks like a counter wrap-around ?

Or a signed vs. unsigned format mismatch perhaps?

=E2=80=94
Juraj Lutter
Fediverse: otis@bsd.network
BlueSky: @wilbury.net
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jurajlutter/
GSM: = +421907986576

= --Apple-Mail=_F8D06EE3-8FBC-4F2B-914E-445C3F14CAAF-- From nobody Fri Aug 7 14:30:09 2026 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hGmlH6wyMz6nBRY for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2026 14:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lojas@arroway.org) Received: from hobbes.arroway.org (hobbes.arroway.org [173.199.118.77]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hGmlG5JfPz3V80 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2026 14:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lojas@arroway.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=arroway.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lojas@arroway.org designates 173.199.118.77 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lojas@arroway.org Received: by hobbes (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id d5c4afca (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2026 11:30:11 -0300 (-03) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2026 14:30:09 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="aafbdc66-34b5-4160-9698-0d88a3170554-1" From: "Nenhum_de_Nos" Message-ID: TLS-Required: No Subject: Re: git clone issues on 15.1-RELEASE on arm64 To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <0ef10b4fe6b5112ec632a244ece38ea55694d1f1@arroway.org> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.88 / 15.00]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[39]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.52)[-0.515]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[arroway.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:173.199.116.0/22, country:US]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hGmlG5JfPz3V80 X-Spamd-Bar: + --aafbdc66-34b5-4160-9698-0d88a3170554-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable August 1, 2026 at 2:25 PM, "Mark Millard" wrot= e: >=20 >=20On 8/1/26 08:46, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: >=20 >=20>=20 >=20> August 1, 2026 at 10:47 AM, "Karl Denninger" > > to=3D%22Karl%20Denninger%22%20%3Ckarl%40denninger.net%3E>> wrote: > >=20=20 >=20> The problem appears to be at this point: > >=20=20 >=20> Cloning into '/usr/src'... > > fatal: unable to access 'https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/ ': https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/%3E': Resolvi= ng timed out after 300226 milliseconds > >=20=20 >=20> I do not know why, however, because my "base" source git clone has > > in its config the following: > >=20=20 >=20> [remote "freebsd"] > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 url =3D https://git.freebsd.org/src.git = > git.freebsd.org/src.git> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 fetch =3D +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/fre= ebsd/* > >=20=20 >=20> And it works. > >=20=20 >=20> I have several worktrees checked out against that since I build fo= r > > 14-STABLE and 15-STABLE at this point for distribution to machines > > running ARM64 and AMD64. > >=20=20 >=20> My latest "git pull --ff-only" to so-update was this morning. > >=20=20 >=20> On 8/1/2026 09:36, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > >=20=20 >=20> Hi, > >=20=20 >=20> I have been fighting this issue for 2 weeks now, I guess its time = to ask here. The problem: > >=20=20 >=20> root@arm_build_hd:/usr # rm -rf src/ > > root@arm_build_hd:/usr # /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_gi= t_checkout_15.1R.sh > > Cloning into '/usr/src'... > > fatal: unable to access 'https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/ ': https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/%3E': Resolvi= ng timed out after 300226 milliseconds > > root@arm_build_hd:/usr # /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_gi= t_checkout_15.1R.sh > > Cloning into '/usr/src'... > > remote: Enumerating objects: 4850942, done. > > remote: Counting objects: 100% (384686/384686), done. > > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (29598/29598), done. > > error: RPC failed; curl 56 OpenSSL SSL_read: OpenSSL/3.5.6: error:0A= 000126:SSL routines::unexpected eof while reading, errno 0 > > error: 73 bytes of body are still expected > > fetch-pack: unexpected disconnect while reading sideband packet > > fatal: early EOF > > fatal: fetch-pack: invalid index-pack output > > root@arm_build_hd:/usr # /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_gi= t_checkout_15.1R.sh > > you have mail > > Cloning into '/usr/src'... > > fatal: unable to access 'https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/ ': https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/%3E': Resolvi= ng timed out after 300040 milliseconds > > root@arm_build_hd:/usr # cat /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/sr= c_git_checkout_15.1R.sh > > git clone --branch releng/15.1 https://git.freebsd.org/src.git https://git.freebsd.org/src.git%3E /usr/src= =20 >=20> root@arm_build_hd:/usr #=20 >=20>=20=20 >=20> On two Orange Pi 5 Plus 16GB I have FreeBSD 15.1-R installed so I = can build opnsense for arm64 (this is not relevant for the problem, excep= t for one detail I will tell later). This box above had 14.3-R running fi= ne, all build times were fine, git worked perfectly. Since I needed to up= grade to 15.1-R, git stopped working as it was expected (and presented ab= ove). > >=20=20 >=20> I looked for DNS reasons, changed DNS server, local server, remote= server, kept ping github.com while cloning, no good. I started using the= upgraded box, then I got another similar arm64 box and installed fresh 1= 5.1-R, everytime the same issue. The one detail I told about opnsense bui= lding is that I use pkg 2.3.1_1, as is the version that ships on the imag= es and the port is on opnsense ports github repo. Other than that, regula= r FreeBSD 15.1-R. I download the github zip file for ports, run make inst= all on the pkg port and lock the package after. Used to work fine, can th= is be the culprit? I got some messages after upgrade about libpkg not the= same version or database version. But I then installed it all over and n= o more of that. > >=20=20 >=20> So I tried to clone the repo today on a Linux Desktop here (Linux = Mint), all fine. Same network, same servers, same ISP. I then tried on an= old amd64 box running FreeBSD 15.1-R. Again, fine. Both my arm64 failed,= even after fresh install. Can the pkg port be the one? Before I forget, = both the arm64 run on magnetic HDDs over USB adapter and all other run on= SSDs over SATA. Would this make this all happen? > >=20=20 >=20> After several tries (3 days) I got to clone the repo and got to st= art building. Ports used to take 24h and now runs for 5 days. So I got in= fo about llvm changes and got the config to try to solve this (/etc/src.c= onf), and my point is just that, I need to build vanilla FreeBSD 15.1-R o= n arm64 (just using older pkg, I can try to not change now if people thin= k may help) so I can have world and kernel using llvm options from 14.X. > >=20 >=20Start distinct subject from the main point of your post: >=20 >=20Were you successful at significantly decreasing that "5 days" time > frame? If yes, you may want to be very explicit about what you changed > that made the difference. >=20 >=20The official arm64 build server build times suggests that 14.4 now ta= kes > longer than 14.3 did --and that 15.1 takes even longer, as I remember. >=20 >=20("Suggests" is tied to: none of the examples are re-runs of the exact > same ports tree content --or, mostly, the same package subset. Comparin= g > the fairly uncommon attempts to rebuild everything tend to be what I > look at for such comparison/contrast activities.) >=20 >=20End distinct subject. >=20 Hello=20Mark and others, I will try to bring some answers here. At first, I thought it was faster. But now its looking like a solid "no". The ports build phase is running since Aug 03 22:44 GMT -3, and it looks = to be 75% done. So quite close. On the other hand, git clone looked bette= r (I really can't tell why, but the timed out rate when using clone and d= epth 1 was really low). The world and kernel build time for Orange Pi 5 P= lus 16GB was 3.5 hours. Again, I use HDD over USB not SSD. My future plans are try to crosscompile on AMD64, that was problematic be= fore and I will try to find out if its viable now. Build times were far b= elow 2 days and now I have 4 days and counting. Thanks as usual for the help. 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August 1, 2026 at 2:25 P= M, "Mark Millard" <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 8/1/26 08:46, Nenhu= m_de_Nos wrote:
August 1, 2026 at 10:47 AM, "Karl Denninge= r" <karl@denninger.net
<mailto:karl@denninger.net?
to=3D%22= Karl%20Denninger%22%20%3Ckarl%40denninger.net%3E>> wrote:

= The problem appears to be at this point:

Cloning into '/= usr/src'...
fatal: unable to access 'https://git.freebsd.or= g/src.git/ <https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/>': = Resolving timed out after 300226 milliseconds

I do not know = why, however, because my "base" source git clone has
in its confi= g the following:

[remote "freebsd"]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 url =3D https://git.freebsd.org/src.git <https= ://
git.freebsd.org/src.git>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 fetch =3D +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/freebsd/*

And it wo= rks.

I have several worktrees checked out against that since= I build for
14-STABLE and 15-STABLE at this point for distributi= on to machines
running ARM64 and AMD64.

My latest "g= it pull --ff-only" to so-update was this morning.

On 8/1/202= 6 09:36, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:

Hi,

I hav= e been fighting this issue for 2 weeks now, I guess its time to ask here.= The problem:

root@arm_build_hd:/usr # rm -rf src/
= root@arm_build_hd:/usr # /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_= git_checkout_15.1R.sh
Cloning into '/usr/src'...
= fatal: unable to access 'https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/ <<= a href=3D"https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/%3E':" target=3D"_blank" tabind= ex=3D"-1">https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/>': Resolving timed out = after 300226 milliseconds
root@arm_build_hd:/usr # /root/git/= freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_git_checkout_15.1R.sh
Cloning = into '/usr/src'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 4850942, done= .
remote: Counting objects: 100% (384686/384686), done.
= remote: Compressing objects: 100% (29598/29598), done.
= error: RPC failed; curl 56 OpenSSL SSL_read: OpenSSL/3.5.6: error:0A0001= 26:SSL routines::unexpected eof while reading, errno 0
error:= 73 bytes of body are still expected
fetch-pack: unexpected d= isconnect while reading sideband packet
fatal: early EOF
= fatal: fetch-pack: invalid index-pack output
root@arm= _build_hd:/usr # /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_git_checkout_15= .1R.sh
you have mail
Cloning into '/usr/src'... fatal: unable to access 'https://git.freebsd.org/src.git= / <https://git.freebsd.org/src.git/>': Resolving= timed out after 300040 milliseconds
root@arm_build_hd:/usr #= cat /root/git/freebsd_config/freebsd_git/src_git_checkout_15.1R.sh
= git clone --branch releng/15.1 https://git.freebsd.org/src.gi= t <https://git.freebsd.org/src.git> /usr/src
= root@arm_build_hd:/usr #

On two Orange Pi 5 Plus= 16GB I have FreeBSD 15.1-R installed so I can build opnsense for arm64 (= this is not relevant for the problem, except for one detail I will tell l= ater). This box above had 14.3-R running fine, all build times were fine,= git worked perfectly. Since I needed to upgrade to 15.1-R, git stopped w= orking as it was expected (and presented above).

I looke= d for DNS reasons, changed DNS server, local server, remote server, kept = ping github.com while cloning, no good. I started using the upgraded box,= then I got another similar arm64 box and installed fresh 15.1-R, everyti= me the same issue. The one detail I told about opnsense building is that = I use pkg 2.3.1_1, as is the version that ships on the images and the por= t is on opnsense ports github repo. Other than that, regular FreeBSD 15.1= -R. I download the github zip file for ports, run make install on the pkg= port and lock the package after. Used to work fine, can this be the culp= rit? I got some messages after upgrade about libpkg not the same version = or database version. But I then installed it all over and no more of that= .

So I tried to clone the repo today on a Linux Desktop = here (Linux Mint), all fine. Same network, same servers, same ISP. I then= tried on an old amd64 box running FreeBSD 15.1-R. Again, fine. Both my a= rm64 failed, even after fresh install. Can the pkg port be the one? Befor= e I forget, both the arm64 run on magnetic HDDs over USB adapter and all = other run on SSDs over SATA. Would this make this all happen?

= After several tries (3 days) I got to clone the repo and got to sta= rt building. Ports used to take 24h and now runs for 5 days. So I got inf= o about llvm changes and got the config to try to solve this (/etc/src.co= nf), and my point is just that, I need to build vanilla FreeBSD 15.1-R on= arm64 (just using older pkg, I can try to not change now if people think= may help) so I can have world and kernel using llvm options from 14.X.
Start distinct subject from the main point of your post:
Were you successful at significantly decreasing that "5 days" time<= br>frame? If yes, you may want to be very explicit about what you changed=
that made the difference.

The official arm64 build server buil= d times suggests that 14.4 now takes
longer than 14.3 did --and that 1= 5.1 takes even longer, as I remember.

("Suggests" is tied to: none= of the examples are re-runs of the exact
same ports tree content --or= , mostly, the same package subset. Comparing
the fairly uncommon attem= pts to rebuild everything tend to be what I
look at for such compariso= n/contrast activities.)

End distinct subject.



Hello Mark and others, I will try to bring some a= nswers here.

At first, I thought it was faster. = But now its looking like a solid "no".

The ports= build phase is running since Aug 03 22:44 GMT -3, and it looks to be 75%= done. So quite close. On the other hand, git clone looked better (I real= ly can't tell why, but the timed out rate when using clone and depth 1 wa= s really low). The world and kernel build time for Orange Pi 5 Plus 16GB = was 3.5 hours. Again, I use HDD over USB not SSD.

My future plans are try to crosscompile on AMD64, that was problematic = before and I will try to find out if its viable now. Build times were far= below 2 days and now I have 4 days and counting.

Thanks as usual for the help. When its over I can post here the actual = time if there is people interested on the info.

= matheus
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