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To: figosdev Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" References: <470fc9d4-40e7-be12-f904-31f305f77813@heuristicsystems.com.au> From: Dewayne Geraghty Autocrypt: addr=dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQFNBFbOsVMBCgDfvi2PspSwoMEtFhF+aFLQKtzSA9f0dhDqthKHESdfbqxvKzhkBjvTJ5Na EgjKoKfoQTh5xuIv3HLhtDo5PeasPgQl9cPJeriqmqlS+UhY5BGYcMc1AO/TX0fsDaQz96ko at3RUW7sff/qPgVzSurk+DV5h866gPdn5Jdjohyl2F1rzRl6dnaAIyg49zlwZOnPHJGKye+B meqUCnPRglhkpNqXR3v1ulbWpfwhdNDvWT82qTG/qsFy/agjJvxwLuEBeoGc1dPWasO8Nztt 0dqf1Lpeg6SX2yJd76WVS4znt88OEbx/QL2PTJ/YtSepS68WaeKuARKPukkU+QXDep0gaLPl /TvU5xAZndNB3rYnpmoLb32pDHlrJbZUVyTMqc3J2EYM6aaizCpg4VEvVpVSqUT4D9MuREhu PeZ3SvEazQARAQABiQF3BB8BCAAhBQJWzrFTFwyAAWHe5yZt8RJL0vaU1MfDto5dBmeFAgcA AAoJEJVk7a1LmFrdy2QJ/AysDdFIMCRiaqEellprZQyEz5I/qZJEi6yRfXH813hhISFz6moh urZYLQ9SRdyMntT8W3Oc4pJc9fF9RSnY0SSQY/arZbrvsv6hKb1KtIK7P5mLS914J9buxEcJ SWeVuOuMA9aCNqg5uMu19pH5pXayORfbv+K7vFPiyllZ64ShUWZJL69vAc/TsbvMrGtG1M4P qyWCOKEiUT93zhVGQoA0aUYjMAZoyvozZCuieo4O8hkPgMz9lka+3bqQBSOB+qO4Iz+CZs0k Lw7Soga6bRqLK86DH99WjTA6Oj1r8Won+j4V9fnTDCVJoSyqdVHLySDv/lHaNu4Ia4AO4i2d shmLw03gOUvoWLJx5X01A5Zio4FvecnpZqQ0Wz5Ph9MiK3lwarfjonTOLeNGd5BpdnHu5VRC fJml7uAYeyKsD8C4tEBEZXdheW5lIEdlcmFnaHR5IDxkZXdheW5lLmdlcmFnaHR5QGNvbnNj aXVtaW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC5jb20uYXU+iQGXBBMBCABBAhshCwsKDQkIDAcLAwIECBUKCQgL AwIBBRYDAgEAAh4BAheAFiEEC8bIxjMx+sDl4ZCClWTtrUuYWt0FAl5UUOgACgkQlWTtrUuY Wt3xZAn/W/mq5nDhLIfqxVM9GbU8rGzNsGLfnt5NCVcWlBKhgxOOw9EWkcRTMymwX9OMqwxI +te6Gvy7rG53T2xprtsQyqESZmjWcUSEPsQ9hjw4VZCL15ftBeZMYyO2T1e41UImXAlftleT 2kXCktgyAfwfCzHhFiZM8k9QMFQV1x+JukJ9xPFBgICRLsLsVNVw/R1L7KqARuws4HqXxY1J SCpO+FB4b6tWSIRKbzlb6tctdKppKbG/adVYuoK61ngvmsAzy/9OLhF8u1MNCgyFd2woOErh /zyuap8KvJZMlwAIqpjsoHyXsa0cq8A/uNQSmodwBpRsEGXCmZIZq2FJw6N+38to8C8m97q0 YWrY63VsoA6hA4A4/ywzE3EiwGvqJQBMRv2ET3TIdTyLoEIwXq2bDPU7XTZGh5UZEsKFMHH5 228= Message-ID: <42d673a6-8b84-af95-832f-359471a75944@heuristicsystems.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:44:52 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BbjKB4qhyz4DFY X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=heuristicsystems.com.au header.s=hsa header.b=F08bWEOG; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au designates 203.41.22.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.77 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[203.41.22.115:from]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[protonmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.967]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[heuristicsystems.com.au:s=hsa]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.60)[-0.601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:48:00 -0000 On 26/08/2020 7:12 am, figosdev via freebsd-ports wrote: >> the easiest way, if you build your own ports, is to svnlite update -r '{2020-03-29}' /usr/ports/security/w3af Note the date before removal from the ports tree. > > Thanks, this is probably what I was looking for (a way to get a copy of the existing work if ports deletes it). > You're welcome :) > Forgive my lack of experience here-- does this imply that when something is "deleted" from ports-- it is like an edit in git or Wikipedia, where the old version still (typically) exists in the tree somewhere? Because if a year from now I can still get the old ports code from the older tree, that's good enough for me. > I can't speak to git or wikipedia, but I use this technique for ports that go back to 2018-12-14. So you should be ok for awhile, perhap a ports infrastructure person can illuminate. Though frankly, I keep copies of all local tree changes against a pristine copy of the ports tree ("diff -urN" is useful) You should be aware that the mailing list(s) has mentioned a move to git, and there is an intention to retain the svn feed, so we should be fine for the foreseeable. Also mentioned was a transition guide... > I also got the downloadable Linux ELF pre-compiled version from pypy.org to run in Linuxulator-- this has me covered for most of the stuff I do with Python, though for GUI stuff it doesn't seem to like the libc in /compat or the one I copied (a point for another list, but for me this solves most of my issue.) > A bit unfortunate that you need to, though its a resilient workaround :) > Same GUI stuff runs on the native PyPy. I'm hoping the PyPy devs find a way to make this work, I intend to ask them if they can make a FreeBSD download again. They did one for FreeBSD64 a long time ago. > Yes, the best way is to try to get the upstream folks to modify their code for python3. Though if the dev doesn't want to, you (we) need to make a calculated risk determination, as I've found with a few very useful applications (ports). And as a general rule, I'd suggest avoiding unmaintained ports that enable inbound network access. Cheerio.