Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:11:14 -0800 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list issues. Message-ID: <3AADABF2.B75F70C4@urx.com> References: <15021.41997.442113.566230@guru.mired.org>
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Mike Meyer wrote: > > Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> types: > > Doug Young wrote: > > > Same here ..... had forgotten about those messages because I haven't seen > > > one for a week or so > > If you look at the header's, most of the dup's seem to have > > austin.rr.com involved some where. > > In examining them closely, what I found was that the bounces all came > from the same site, and all were rejected because the IP address of > some site - that was neither mine, or FreeBSDs - didn't have a reverse > DNS. It hasn't been that long since m018.com was doing the same thing. They fixed their problem. It looks like the people in Austin, Texas have a problem and based on the number of complains, they don't appear to know how to fix the problem. > > My conclusion is that the mail on the list (lists, actually - i see it > for a number of them) is holding mail for several days, then spitting > parts of it back, seemingly at random. Worse yet, their DNS is hosed > in a way that causes one recipient to reject it, meaning you also get > a bounce back from it. I believe that's a problem with their mailer as > well; the FreeBSD lists ask that errors from messages going through th > lists go back to them for correction. > > I've complained to the people that the recieved line headers finger > more than once, and never seen a reply. I accused them of exceeding the Peter principle in multiple disciplines. They probably won't understand. I thought that deleting who ever is subscribed from that domain would do more good. Tell them "I'm sorry but your ISP is spamming all of the responder's to a world wide list". I understood one response when the person recognized a several day old email that he was in the process of re-responding to. Kent > > <mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tyler K McGeorge" <treznor@sunflower.com> > > > To: "Andrew Hesford" <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx>; "Rick Hamell" <hamellr@1nova.com> > > > Cc: "Kevin Brunelle" <kruptos@netzero.net>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: Mailing list issues. > > > > > > > I was having a conflict with the list myself. Any message I would send > > > would > > > > go through, but I would get a message from a mailer daemon along the route > > > > that my message would not be delivered. This has stopped, but it was quite > > > > confusing for a while. > > > > > > > > Ty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Andrew Hesford <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx> > > > > To: Rick Hamell <hamellr@heorot.1nova.com> > > > > Cc: Kevin Brunelle <kruptos@netzero.net>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:37 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Mailing list issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > | I've had my server down for as much as half a day, I think. This was > > > > | during the daytime hours too, which is a fairly busy time for -stable > > > > | and -questions. > > > > | > > > > | I've never been dropped, though. > > > > | > > > > | On another note, I *have* noticed problems with the mailing lists > > > > | lately. Twice in the last few days, I've been getting loads of old > > > > | messages, which I'd already read and deleted locally. Is majordomo going > > > > | insane, or am I? I hope this happens to other people. > > > > | > > > > | On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 10:30:24AM -0800, Rick Hamell wrote: > > > > | > > Does anyone know why I would be unsubscribed from all the freebsd > > > > | > > mailing lists from time to time. I suddenly stop getting the > > > messages, > > > > | > > with no warning or anything. I am using Netzero to accept this mail, > > > > for > > > > | > > me, and I collect it from them later. If this is not freebsd.org, > > > how > > > > | > > would netzero be dropping my lists? I get them back as soon as I > > > > | > > resubscribe. This can be really annoying. This last time, it was > > > less > > > > | > > than a month before this happened. Any ideas on this? > > > > | > > > > > | > If for some reason your domain becomes unavailable, the mailing > > > > | > lists will automatically drop an email address if a certain number of > > > > | > messages bounce back from it. I have no idea what that number is, but > > > I > > > > do > > > > | > know that with the amount of traffic on this list in paticular, I > > > could > > > > be > > > > | > dropped with in a period of 8 hours. > > > > | -- > > > > | Andrew Hesford > > > > | ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > > > | > > > > | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > | with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > -- > Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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