From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 20 7:17:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD90537B406 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail19.messagelabs.com (mail19.messagelabs.com [193.109.254.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D53E43E9E for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:17:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon.barber@acm.org) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jon.barber@acm.org X-Msg-Ref: server-25.tower-19.messagelabs.com!1037805422!53149 Received: (qmail 14009 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2002 15:17:02 -0000 Received: from exchange.microexpert.com.92.154.217.in-addr.arpa (HELO wrath.smartcardgroup.com) (217.154.92.227) by server-25.tower-19.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2002 15:17:02 -0000 Received: from acm.org ([192.168.100.155]) by wrath.smartcardgroup.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:16:23 +0000 Message-ID: <3DDBA747.9070503@acm.org> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:16:23 +0000 From: Jon Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Smith Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDEs References: <1037803230.1305.6.camel@d80h149.public.uconn.edu> <3DDB9FD5.1020704@acm.org> <1037804184.1305.8.camel@d80h149.public.uconn.edu> In-Reply-To: <1037803230.1305.6.camel@d80h149.public.uconn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2002 15:16:23.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[C963E320:01C290A7] Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matt Smith wrote: >Jon- > Thanks for the FAST reply. I will check it out! Have you ever used >Netbeans/Forte/Sun One Studio? Can you compare it to IntelliJ? > I've used both NetBeans & Forte, though not the most recent versions. Never tried Sun One Studio, though I suspect this is Forte renamed ? Anyway, I found them to be too heavy on system usage & do stuff I didn't want. IDEA starts up pretty fast & seems light on resources, which I like as I develop mainly on a laptop. IDEA has some very nice refactoring facilities. For example, it tells you straight away what imports are redundant and can sort them out for you. You can highlight a section of code within a method and extract that selection to a new method, and IDEA will take care of generating the signature etc. You can also use a class that has no correct import at the top of the file & IDEA will try and work out which package it is in. If it is correct you tell it so (by hitting ctrl+enter, I think) and it inserts the import for you. I've worked on projects with 1000+ classes etc, and I would not hesitate to use IDEA on them (we used JBuilder, which was perfectly OK, but IDEA would have been better for me). IDEA is really a lightweight editor with neat refactoring and intelligence about how to code java. The tag line is 'develop with pleasure', and that certainly has been my experience. Well worth $399 (I think). Jon. >-Matt >On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 09:44, Jon Barber wrote: > > >>IDEA by IntelliJ - Jehovah's own IDE : www.intellij.com >>http://www.intellij.com/idea/ >> >>Seriously, I've been using IDEs for 6 years or so, and previously >>JBuilder was my favourite, but IDEA is by far the best I have tried. >> >>Jon. >> >>Matt Smith wrote: >> >> >> >>>All- >>> Are there certain IDEs you all use for Java coding? Of course, I >>>expect vi, [x]emacs, jEdit, but how about complete environments? I have >>>been using Netbeans 3.4 with good success under linux-sun-jdk1.3.1, but >>>find that it crawls on my 1.8 GHz P4/512 MB RAM. So, I am wondering >>>what you all use that might be faster, but still as "all-inclusive" as >>>Netbeans. >>> >>>Thanks all, >>>-Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>________________________________________________________________________ >>This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan >>service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working >>around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com >>________________________________________________________________________ >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message